[14:41] Oh, hallelujah.
[15:16] Okay, I think we're going to get started
[15:18] here.
[15:21] We'd like to welcome everyone to South
[15:22] Weber City Council at 6 PM on Tuesday,
[15:25] March 24th, 2026.
[15:29] We're going to excuse Councilman Davis
[15:31] this evening. I'll lead us in the pledge
[15:33] of allegiance and then we'll have a
[15:35] prayer by Councilman Dills. If you'll
[15:37] all arise, follow me.
[15:41] Ice
[15:43] to the flag of the United States of
[15:46] America and to the republic for which it
[15:49] stands. One nation under God,
[15:52] indivisible, with liberty and justice
[15:55] for all.
[15:59] Our
[16:04] father in heaven, we are grateful that
[16:05] we could come today as a body of South
[16:09] Weaver citizens and their elected
[16:11] officials as we try to sort out the
[16:14] business of our city. Please bless us
[16:16] that we will be able to have the the
[16:18] blessing of discernment to know what we
[16:20] should do and what will be the best for
[16:22] the people and for the city as we go
[16:24] forward. This we pray humbly in the name
[16:26] of thy son Jesus Christ. Amen.
[16:28] >> Amen.
[16:30] Thank you. We appreciate that. We'll
[16:31] begin with uh public comments.
[16:36] Uh please be respectful with your
[16:37] comments. We'll allow you two m three
[16:40] minutes to speak. Please state your name
[16:42] and the city in which you reside and
[16:46] you're welcome to come up to the
[16:47] microphone and
[16:49] make your comment.
[17:04] Yes.
[17:23] There are several items.
[17:28] I didn't address alliture.
[17:45] basic
[17:53] flooding of either or
[17:57] it's the lubricity effect of the water
[17:59] on US
[18:08] water
[18:09] unstable and fail. Especially
[18:19] failure address.
[18:24] Once again, external issues create
[18:27] emergency
[18:45] leads
[18:47] down south.
[18:51] Additionally, a failure of East Canyon
[18:54] carrying an earthquake would not only
[18:57] wipe out but also down river
[19:02] to a lesser extent would be the failure
[19:08] direction control
[19:22] live
[19:23] and whether or not they can quickly
[19:25] respond to Southendur.
[19:46] And last one has to do with
[20:04] Thank you, Paul.
[20:07] >> Yep.
[20:10] Anyone else have any comments?
[20:14] Okay, we've got a presentation tonight.
[20:17] Uh, Weaver River Pre--D disaster
[20:19] mitigation.
[20:21] study by University of Utah Senior
[20:24] Design and
[20:25] >> Utah.
[20:26] State. What did I say? Utah.
[20:29] >> Well, that's blame Blair for that.
[20:32] >> They're in the wrong color. I tell you
[20:34] that.
[20:35] >> I apologize, man. That's that's that's
[20:38] low.
[20:40] [laughter]
[20:42] » And they're here to help.
[20:45] And Ka, are you going to lead us in this
[20:48] or whoever whoever is going to charge?
[20:51] >> Who's in charge? All of you are going to
[20:53] take a turn. Okay.
[21:01] » Yeah,
[21:03] we can try it. Sometimes it works,
[21:05] sometimes it doesn't.
[21:07] >> Just make a beep sound and we'll
[21:10] >> You just have to hold your mouth.
[21:34] First thank you for the opportunity to
[21:36] do this presentation today.
[21:42] I'm James
[21:45] Davis Johnson
[21:48] from Mitchell. We're senior design team
[21:52] at
[21:53] State University. We also like to
[21:55] acknowledge for bringing this product to
[21:58] us and gate to work on it. Dr. Freddy
[22:02] helped us a lot investigations
[22:05] Dr.
[22:10] Austin.
[22:17] You
[22:18] >> pull the microphone closer to your
[22:19] mouth. We're also on YouTube. So, thank
[22:21] you. Before
[22:39] I get into the background,
[22:41] I want to make sure that we're all
[22:45] study
[22:52] river. All
[23:02] right. So in 201
[23:23] Soon enough
[23:40] here.
[23:44] So this is an image of
[23:49] pretty low
[23:51] pressure.
[23:53] So the ground water
[24:03] is simul
[24:16] As
[24:20] it finds locations
[24:26] with it
[24:28] accelerating process
[24:35] channel.
[24:40] So,
[24:44] as part of our study, we created a
[24:46] model.
[24:52] On the right side, you see fill up 36
[24:56] hours.
[25:03] That's not
[25:14] you. You see that's the
[25:21] final
[25:23] work that could be done. We don't know
[25:25] if worse or better.
[25:32] The time frame on that you're projected
[25:35] >> that is
[25:42] that
[25:47] » Thank you.
[25:48] >> All right. So there's three main risks
[25:50] that are associated with this. First of
[25:52] all,
[26:03] different.
[26:09] Second of all, the water
[26:33] Joe, I'm Ty talking about some
[26:37] alternatives
[26:38] to help solve this
[26:41] or solve the flooding.
[26:46] So, we have four different alternatives
[26:48] we're going to talk about today. I'll
[26:51] And this first one is alternative flow
[26:54] channels. So these flow channels um
[26:57] essentially they water back into the
[27:01] river from somewhere else. So these
[27:04] would prevent flooding of South by
[27:12] the structures
[27:14] outside of the normal rivers.
[27:29] And
[27:31] one The one that we chose for our
[27:34] preferred option for all of the
[27:36] alternatives
[27:39] channels is that green high
[27:44] just north of the river
[27:49] events
[27:51] take the water
[27:53] downream a little bit further some of
[27:56] that
[27:58] pressure.
[28:02] So this is our favorite option
[28:06] that
[28:10] water
[28:12] pressure.
[28:20] So alternative number two separate
[28:22] option is a line.
[28:25] This is essentially creating a
[28:27] waterproof layer between the water and this would prevent the water pushing
[28:34] through at all.
[28:37] However, this has a lot of problems
[28:42] and peritting
[28:45] hard
[28:55] to$2.4 million construction cost.
[29:03] However, it would be good for longterm
[29:06] stability
[29:08] set
[29:11] and this is one of our favorite options,
[29:13] but
[29:17] your product.
[29:20] So, these are just two ways
[29:23] that
[29:30] those are alternatives. Turn it to
[29:39] The next alternative is the diversion
[29:41] channel. This one assumes that there's
[29:44] complete failure of the river
[29:51] solution to this
[29:55] low point that Joe mentioned by the red
[29:58] box. Um this would serve to stop water
[30:02] going
[30:04] river
[30:11] alternative is relatively cheap compared
[30:13] to the other one. However, there's
[30:15] various other effects.
[30:20] Um so the main thing is environmental
[30:22] effects.
[30:31] And
[30:37] then once it does fill up all the
[30:39] minerals and from the ground back river
[30:47] and then also there's fact anymore
[30:51] essentially become a lake. All kinds of
[30:53] maintenance issues that go with that
[30:55] erosion.
[31:06] Um so the next one we consider is cut
[31:09] off wall which is essentially a wall
[31:12] that's underground cuts off the flow of
[31:13] water ground water from the river to the
[31:16] ground. It also serves as
[31:22] very considered
[31:29] and walls go into what those are
[31:35] file wallow.
[31:41] However,
[31:44] biggest disadvantage to all these
[31:45] options is the high cost and the price
[31:49] range that we've given for these
[31:51] estimate
[31:53] construction cost
[31:57] a lot
[32:02] of area.
[32:15] So, um it is important to note though
[32:18] that if it wasn't for the
[32:29] process that we used to evaluate.
[32:42] There are
[32:47] number one
[32:55] as well as
[33:11] All
[33:18] right.
[33:24] So, this channel will go on
[33:29] river and we'll be able to
[33:35] channel
[33:37] for the most part
[33:39] as well.
[33:41] right now. There is
[33:50] channel
[34:02] That
[34:04] basket
[34:29] are simple enough.
[34:35] Some of the concerns that our design is
[34:38] based on our
[34:45] soenefit
[35:12] of our
[35:33] biggest recommendations.
[35:43] That's
[35:45] actually an
[35:57] They are
[36:02] also
[36:05] design.
[36:20] » Thank you very much.
[36:21] >> Thank you. This is fantastic.
[36:22] >> So great. So can I ask a question,
[36:24] mayor? Is that okay?
[36:25] >> Yes.
[36:26] >> Um, how long did this process take you
[36:29] guys as a group together? How long have
[36:32] you been working on this?
[36:33] >> So, like began senior design class begin
[36:40] a few months ago, but we really got into
[36:42] that project for probably
[36:45] we started working with summer. So, it's
[36:47] been about a week.
[36:50] >> Awesome. Thank you. This is great
[36:52] information. I appreciate you guys
[36:53] sharing that with us. Anyone
[36:57] else have a question?
[36:57] >> Yeah, I've got a quick question. At the
[36:59] be at the beginning of this, you
[37:02] discussed how the uh water would
[37:04] actually seep into uh kind of like the
[37:07] springs going into the the pit. um with
[37:10] the amount of force that was going on
[37:13] during that time, wouldn't there be a
[37:16] huge amount of erosion right along that
[37:19] whole wall of the river? So that not
[37:22] just one section of it, but pretty soon
[37:25] uh pretty much the entire south side of
[37:28] the river would be in the bottom of the
[37:30] pit and the pit expanding out.
[37:34] >> Yeah, that that's definitely a
[37:35] possibility. I mean, water likes to find
[37:38] the quickest channel it can't to exit.
[37:40] So, what's most likely is you look at an
[37:42] aerial that uh the gravel pit, the place
[37:45] that it started to exit was actually the
[37:47] thinnest portion.
[37:48] >> So, we imagine what it would do is it
[37:50] would probably just cut channel about
[37:52] the same width as the existing one is,
[37:54] but it would cut it down into the gravel
[37:57] pit. And it's it's hard to know exactly
[37:59] without knowing subsurface where all the
[38:02] soil positions are. It's hard to know
[38:04] exactly how that water would flow, but
[38:07] most likely based off of what we
[38:09] experienced in the past, it would just
[38:11] cut through at that one location.
[38:13] >> I'm just wondering because you have the
[38:14] two uh coverts that will pull water out
[38:18] and I was just wondering would those
[38:20] still be remaining if the river is just
[38:23] eroding all of that or are you expecting
[38:25] that it would just do one steady drop
[38:27] and just go out that way and not not
[38:30] worry about eroding the rest of the
[38:31] river?
[38:32] >> Yeah. So the the goal of those designs
[38:34] was to prevent the erosion work out
[38:37] there and what we wanted was during a
[38:41] normal year even a high runoff year
[38:43] there's no section there. So we figured
[38:46] if we can keep the flow rates in the
[38:48] original channel at the same elevation
[38:50] as they were in the years where it was
[38:52] safe then in the future that will also
[38:55] be safe. So we did that by diverting the
[38:56] river into two separate channels. keep
[38:58] the elevation lower so there's not as
[39:00] much prior pushing outside of us.
[39:02] >> Okay, fantastic. I I'm amazed. Good job
[39:06] all of you.
[39:07] >> Great job. Thank you so much for doing
[39:09] this and coming to the city this
[39:12] tonight. And
[39:14] you're welcome to stay if you'd like,
[39:16] but we'll excuse you if you want to
[39:18] leave.
[39:18] >> Hey, mayor.
[39:19] >> Yes.
[39:20] >> Can I make a motion that we give the
[39:21] these students an Agrade or recommend an
[39:24] A grade? [laughter]
[39:25] I
[39:25] >> think we could do that.
[39:30] I do. I'm just looking for a second down
[39:32] there.
[39:32] >> Second.
[39:32] that.
[39:33] >> Okay. Favor say I.
[39:35] >> I.
[39:36] >> Okay.
[39:37] >> Hey, Dre. Good job.
[39:41] >> Okay, moving along. We'll get into our
[39:43] action items. We need to approve our
[39:45] consent agenda consisting of February
[39:48] 24th minutes. Any corrections or changes
[39:51] to these minutes?
[39:54] Not. We'll look for a motion to approve.
[40:00] » Mayor, I'll make a motion to approve the
[40:01] consent agenda.
[40:03] >> Second.
[40:05] by C.
[40:07] >> In favor, say I.
[40:08] >> I.
[40:10] >> Next item, resolution 26-6,
[40:14] donation policy. Any
[40:19] comments on this new policy that worked
[40:22] on getting
[40:24] put forth? I think Councilman Dales to
[40:26] the a lot of work on this. Did you not?
[40:29] >> Um I I did an initial draft. Um this was
[40:34] then turned over to our uh intern we had
[40:37] Dan. Um and uh quite a bit of it was
[40:40] changed. Um there are some things that I
[40:43] would love to see back into it. Um but
[40:47] um I think the the purpose of it is
[40:49] sound. Um any type of transparency of
[40:52] course that we can give to the public on
[40:53] what happens when somebody comes in and
[40:56] donates money. Um, I think that it's
[40:58] also important that we come up with the
[41:01] scale as a city council that says this
[41:04] is what we want to do. And, you know, so
[41:07] if you're donating, you know, $100,
[41:10] that's a certain level of, you know,
[41:12] we'll put up a banner. We'll put up, you
[41:14] know, some news out on the the
[41:16] electrical sign that we have. or if
[41:18] you're doing $1,000 or if you're a
[41:20] business and you're doing $10,000
[41:22] um you know a business has a lot a lot
[41:25] more expectation when it comes to having
[41:27] their name out there uh once you have uh
[41:30] made a donation. So um you know on that
[41:33] area you're talking about having trails
[41:35] that would be named for them or um you
[41:39] know if they're talking about uh uh
[41:41] different area pavilions in some of the
[41:44] different parks and stuff. So, it just
[41:46] makes it so that when somebody comes to
[41:48] us, we're already ready. We've already
[41:50] made the decisions ahead of time of
[41:52] here's what we want to do. Um the one
[41:55] that I sent in had a much lower um
[41:59] starting cost. Um I think as we saw with
[42:03] the pickle ball courts that we did, um
[42:05] the average donor was not sending in
[42:08] $10,000.
[42:09] uh we got a lot of them that did and you
[42:12] know did a high level but um this puts
[42:17] it down into a range that I think most
[42:18] of the south weieber especially when we
[42:20] get into the uh sports and recreation uh
[42:23] the citizens would be able to be
[42:25] involved in uh if they want to sponsor a
[42:27] team that's handled purely at an
[42:30] administration level instead of having
[42:31] to come up to the mayor or to the city
[42:33] council for approval that's just
[42:35] something that's uh keeps it down low
[42:38] but still gets the process flowing
[42:40] without us being a bottleneck. Um, it
[42:43] does have things also so that and I know
[42:46] it doesn't work perfectly but having
[42:50] some type of visible fund even if it is
[42:52] just a declared line item when we're
[42:54] doing the budget that says this is how
[42:56] much we were given in donations for this
[42:58] year and this is how much is still here
[43:01] or uh is going to be here and moved uh
[43:05] reserved to that next uh year's uh
[43:08] budget. It just makes it so that when we
[43:10] have somebody who comes in who does a
[43:11] big donation, say like we had with the
[43:14] barn that since this goes across
[43:18] multiple years, it keeps track of it and
[43:21] puts it down in there so that uh we
[43:23] don't just lose it or it gets assigned
[43:26] to other funds. Um other than that, I I really think that the the the program
[43:31] itself is great. I think our biggest
[43:33] beneic beneficiaries
[43:35] will be the sports teams. Um, I mean, if I can if if I can donate and be able
[43:42] to um support my grandson's soccer team,
[43:48] T-ball team, wrestling team, all of
[43:50] these different things, I'm going to do
[43:51] it. Um, and I don't really need that big
[43:55] of a, you know, a prize for doing that.
[43:58] That's something I would do anyways. Um,
[44:00] but we have families, um, very large
[44:04] families that all have different
[44:06] foundations and different things that
[44:07] they want to put in. Everything from,
[44:10] uh, trail headers with chairs and shade
[44:12] to pavilions and stuff. So, uh, this
[44:15] just lines it up so that we can do that.
[44:18] Okay.
[44:19] >> Thank you, Joel.
[44:21] >> My my microphone keeps doing that. I'm
[44:23] so sorry. Can you guys hear me? Yeah.
[44:27] >> I'm sorry.
[44:28] >> Try standing it up.
[44:29] Thank you.
[44:33] >> I did.
[44:34] Uh my biggest question on this um how
[44:38] long will these banners stay up? Because
[44:41] I know that right now we have banners in
[44:43] the FAC that have been there for years.
[44:45] So is this a way for us to manage
[44:49] rotation of those and keep current on
[44:52] those ones so someone doesn't do donate
[44:53] once and then they've got it for 10
[44:55] years? And that's one of the reasons why
[44:57] we tried to separate it in the original
[44:58] draft was that if you're sponsoring a
[45:00] team, um you do that for a season. If
[45:03] you want to do it again, it's another
[45:04] season. Um that way you don't just
[45:08] donate once to a team, pay $150 and buy
[45:11] some water bottles and now you've got a,
[45:14] you know, a perfectly good 4x6 banner
[45:16] sitting in the family activity center
[45:18] for the next 10 years. Um I would hope
[45:21] that they would want to do that again
[45:22] next year for that same team. Um, and
[45:26] there's even uh levels of it that can
[45:30] give a larger sign or move a sign, even
[45:32] have something put into the breeze, our magazine um for those that want to
[45:38] continue on every year. Uh the tougher
[45:40] ones though is once you get up into
[45:42] larger ones, um then yeah, it becomes a
[45:45] one-time thing. So like we where we've
[45:47] got the um uh the barn and the the park
[45:51] renamed, I don't see that one changing.
[45:53] I don't think they need to make a
[45:54] donation again every year to to keep
[45:56] that going on it. So that's that was the
[45:59] part that I was getting stuck on and
[46:01] that was part of it that was taken out
[46:03] of this. Um probably because I hadn't
[46:06] finished anything on it and uh this is a
[46:08] much more simplified version. I tend to
[46:11] overdo it. I don't know if you've
[46:12] noticed. Um so
[46:16] >> okay,
[46:19] any other questions?
[46:21] Not we'll look for a motion.
[46:26] Mayor, I move to approve resolution
[46:28] 2606, the donation policy.
[46:32] >> We have a second.
[46:35] >> I second it.
[46:38] >> Start with the roll call votes.
[46:39] Councilman Windsor.
[46:41] >> I
[46:45] carries. Thank you.
[46:47] Next item, uh, resolution
[46:50] 26-07 declaring public works item as
[46:54] surplus.
[46:55] Anyone have any questions on this? We
[46:58] made our move to our new public works
[47:00] facility. We've got some items that we
[47:04] want to discard of, we don't need, don't
[47:06] want, and uh, proper way to do that is
[47:11] to list them as surplus.
[47:13] Any questions?
[47:16] If not, we'll ask for a motion on this
[47:19] one.
[47:25] » Sorry, I don't remember what items are.
[47:28] >> It's on the If you look on the page 16,
[47:34] » it's just some miscellaneous things that
[47:36] are kind of laying around. There's
[47:38] pallet racks, there's shelving, couch,
[47:40] office decks, all the all the stuff
[47:43] that's
[47:43] >> from the old
[47:44] >> should probably go to the a lot of it.
[47:46] just needs to be thrown away. Thank you,
[47:53] » Mayor. I make a motion to approve
[47:54] resolution 26-07
[47:57] declaring public works items as sless.
[47:59] >> Second.
[48:01] >> Motion second by Councilman Howerson.
[48:03] We'll do a roll call vote studying with
[48:04] Councilman Howerson.
[48:05] >> I I
[48:09] carry. Thank you. Resolution 26-08
[48:13] amending emergency operations plan.
[48:17] Any questions on this one?
[48:23] That was a big read. [laughter]
[48:27] Have our fire chief here. Do you have
[48:29] anything on that? Do you want to add?
[48:33] >> Okay. Any questions?
[48:36] >> Got a couple of issues that I found in
[48:38] it. Um, number one, there's a couple
[48:40] different times when we're talking about
[48:42] the chief executive officer as defined
[48:44] by the state and part of the times it
[48:47] lists the mayor as that chief executive
[48:50] officer. Other times it lists you, the
[48:53] city manager as such. Um, I would like
[48:56] to just kind of clear that out so that
[48:58] in an emergency we have the exact the
[49:01] mayor and his or his designate design.
[49:06] Um so that way if if it has something to
[49:08] do it because uh the chief executive
[49:10] officer doesn't change. Um
[49:19] yeah it's got a couple of them on.
[49:24] Oh I've got it on here. I'll show you
[49:26] afterwards um so that you can look on
[49:28] that and make that exact one because it
[49:30] is um
[49:40] It's where it's talking about um the
[49:43] first one is the first executive chief.
[49:46] Um God, I'll just I'll just give you the
[49:49] page number and show it on you. Um or
[49:51] while we're doing this, that one needs
[49:53] to be cleared up also. Um
[49:58] yeah. Um and I do have it written down.
[50:01] Um, second though, and this one was kind
[50:04] of a little more
[50:07] um we have uh Lisa Smith um listed as
[50:12] List Smith. Um I don't think that's her
[50:16] actual name. Um there's a number of uh
[50:20] places where it is misspellings all
[50:22] throughout it.
[50:24] Um, I don't I'm I'm not trying to be
[50:27] picky on it, but my real questions are
[50:29] on this is that was this given a a
[50:32] thorough review before it was sent?
[50:35] Because we've got pages here that are
[50:39] actual templates coming from um Cash
[50:42] Valley
[50:44] um as some of the footers that are in
[50:46] here where it was taken out. Um, we also
[50:49] have uh ones from Leighton and a couple
[50:52] from Salt Lake City. Um, so it looks
[50:56] like obviously somebody was piecing
[50:58] together different things to make this
[51:00] document. Um but when it starts listing
[51:05] um Weber County officials
[51:08] um in their role um that just needs to I
[51:13] just think if this is going to be the
[51:14] official document and we're going to
[51:15] rely on it. We need to go on and give it
[51:17] one more pass to make sure the actual
[51:19] information is correct because like I
[51:21] said there are some that are from uh
[51:23] different cities in here. Um it also
[51:27] repeats or not repeats uh one moment it
[51:30] says that uh we are using the and chief
[51:34] you may know which one we're actually
[51:35] using whether we're using iPod um or if
[51:38] we're using uh code red um for our um
[51:43] incident or our communication with the public. I
[51:47] know we're doing a reverse 911, but it's
[51:49] not showing anywhere that um we're which
[51:53] one we're actually using. And I think
[51:55] that's I think it's only because some of
[51:57] these documents were merged in the
[51:58] creation of it. Um
[52:02] because there's there's very few I think
[52:04] Bountiful is the only one that still
[52:06] uses iPods. Um and they pay for it. So
[52:09] if you downloaded it, it it tells you have to uh be a paying member to be
[52:13] able to get that kind of information.
[52:16] Um,
[52:18] uh, let's see. Executive.
[52:22] >> Yeah, I do.
[52:33] » Yeah.
[52:34] >> And that that's what I was going
[52:37] Yeah, that's what I was going to go
[52:38] through because I've got the list. I
[52:39] wasn't planning to just hand it over to
[52:41] you right now, but And like they're
[52:43] mainly just small ones. Uh they're just
[52:45] little things, but I think that making
[52:46] the information inaccurate um or
[52:49] possibly inaccurate, which in an
[52:52] emergency, we don't want that. Um
[52:54] Syracuse also has a way of giving a
[52:58] public version of it and a non-public
[53:01] version of it. Um and they post the
[53:04] public version out online. Um might be
[53:07] something we want to look at on it. So
[53:09] um
[53:11] yeah, those are those are the ones that I've looked at. Other than that, I
[53:14] think it's, you know, good detailed
[53:17] content throughout all of it. It's just
[53:20] seeing those few things makes me a
[53:22] little bit concerned. So, yeah. Yeah.
[53:26] >> Okay.
[53:27] >> So, I would like
[53:27] >> So, would you like to make a motion on
[53:29] that then?
[53:29] >> Yeah. I would like to make a motion that
[53:32] um I'd like to make a motion that we
[53:34] table it, but I'll get in trouble. Um,
[53:36] I'd like to make a motion that we
[53:38] postpone it um for however long it takes
[53:41] to get a new one finished.
[53:44] >> Continue it.
[53:45] >> Yeah.
[53:46] >> Well, yeah. Can Yes, sure. Continue.
[53:51] >> Second it.
[53:54] >> A motion and we have a second by
[53:56] Councilman
[53:56] >> How
[53:58] Frank that you
[54:01] >> That's why he wants to table it so that
[54:03] we have time to work on it. bring back.
[54:07] >> So you want able to not config.
[54:13] » Yeah.
[54:15] >> You have you did want to
[54:17] >> continue.
[54:19] Okay.
[54:22] Good with that second then.
[54:24] >> Yeah.
[54:25] >> With a roll call vote. I
[54:28] >> I
[54:31] >> Okay,
[54:33] last item.
[54:36] >> Our vacuum trailer purchase. Any
[54:39] discussion on this?
[54:42] So, we did we did discuss this just to
[54:44] give you a little bit of background as a
[54:46] municipal utilities committee. Um, and
[54:50] currently on average it's mid50,000 a
[54:53] year that we're spending for a vacuum
[54:55] truck, but this does not completely
[54:59] replace that. It was replacing between
[55:02] 30 to 40% of that cost a year. We will
[55:05] still need the larger vacuum trucks to
[55:06] do some of the larger manholes and
[55:08] deeper manholes. Um, so our our return
[55:11] on investment basically this would pay
[55:13] for itself in four years. Um, so Jeremy
[55:16] and and I agreed, the mayor, we agreed
[55:19] that was something we should recommend
[55:20] doing with the council. It will be it'll
[55:23] be purchased out of the I don't remember
[55:25] if it said in the background or not, out
[55:26] of the remaining some of the remaining
[55:28] funds for the public works and it does
[55:31] allow us to do that with the public
[55:32] works funds.
[55:34] >> I do have one question with regards to
[55:36] the procurement method. It does say
[55:37] state contract, but [clears throat]
[55:39] excuse me, there are different methods
[55:40] on state contract. Was this the only
[55:42] state contract for vectors or was there
[55:45] several that we had to choose from? And
[55:46] was this the least cost or did was there
[55:48] other criteria used in selecting this
[55:51] make a model?
[55:53] >> This
[55:58] state contract found this one
[56:04] [clears throat]
[56:05] there was not a cheaper price found on
[56:07] state contract. where there are multiple
[56:10] vendors on state contract. I guess my
[56:12] root cause this is the only vendor.
[56:14] >> There was only there was only two that
[56:16] we knew of at all and I don't believe
[56:18] any of them were part of that state
[56:20] contract is the way I understood it.
[56:22] >> There were other vendors that provided
[56:24] back this was the one that was on state
[56:26] contract.
[56:28] >> Okay. Thank you.
[56:31] didn't say that.
[56:35] » My only question is what's the leave the
[56:37] lead time on this once we purchase it?
[56:40] How soon before we take ownership?
[56:43] >> I think right away.
[56:44] >> I I believe it's something that they can
[56:46] deliver with so that we're using it this
[56:48] summer.
[56:48] >> Awesome.
[56:49] >> Thank you.
[56:51] Michelle,
[56:53] >> and this is and this is going to be a
[56:55] capital item that we're going to prepay
[56:57] for or save it up for or
[56:59] >> it's something we're paying for out of
[57:00] the funds from the
[57:02] >> under the bond money. Okay.
[57:03] >> It's left over.
[57:04] >> Okay.
[57:06] >> The idea that we would use this as long
[57:08] as it lasts.
[57:09] >> Yeah. This isn't going to go on a
[57:12] >> a lease rotation or any rotation
[57:15] program. It's just a piece of equipment
[57:16] we're purchasing.
[57:18] >> Good. Thank you.
[57:21] Okay, we'll look for a motion on this.
[57:26] » Mayor, I make the motion to approve the
[57:28] purchase of a vacuum trailer for the
[57:29] public works department for $87,42011.
[57:35] » Second. Is that 11 cents?
[57:38] >> Yep.
[57:38] >> Yes.
[57:40] >> Make sure I get it right.
[57:42] >> Have a second by Councilwoman Petty with
[57:44] the roll call vote starting with
[57:46] Councilman Worer. I
[57:48] >> I
[57:51] >> motion carries. Thank you.
[57:55] That's it for our action items. We'll go
[57:57] into reports. New business. Dave, if you
[57:59] got any new business,
[58:00] >> one thing to bring up, we were able to
[58:04] get some information back from science
[58:07] public finance on the option to approach
[58:11] our current bond holder, US Bank, and
[58:15] they provided an to the admin finance
[58:18] committee to look at so that they can
[58:19] provide a little bit of perspective. It
[58:23] uh since they have provided that even
[58:26] within the last handful of days market
[58:29] has adjusted and changed
[58:33] in Iraq interest rates are
[58:37] target right now. So the savings that we
[58:41] have looked at initially are not the
[58:45] same. The level of savings is not as
[58:47] high as what those were as they
[58:50] increased since then. [clears throat]
[58:53] But what US bank provided uh was around
[58:56] $400,000 of savings.
[58:59] still maintainability on those bonds,
[59:03] but they would basically do a
[59:04] modification on our current bond
[59:07] structure. We would not have to go out
[59:08] to market or things like that, keep the
[59:11] callability, but it would reduce our
[59:13] interest rate some
[59:17] $400,000 number adjusted. So it's
[59:20] probably a little bit. So the question
[59:22] is is that enough to to want to work
[59:26] with US Bank and do that still pursue
[59:30] the option of going out to market.
[59:37] [clears throat]
[59:38] My re my recommendation is is that we
[59:40] pursue going out to market, but we may
[59:42] want to as a admin finance committee, if
[59:44] everybody's okay with that, look at the
[59:46] timing of that to see
[59:48] >> um because it it really we were down to
[59:52] one option plus maybe just seeing if we
[59:54] could renegotiate these, which was an
[59:56] incredible savings, but if those rates
[59:58] are changing, we may want to wait till
[1:00:00] things settle [snorts] down a little
[1:00:01] bit. Y
[1:00:03] >> I would I would probably kick it back to
[1:00:04] the admin finance community.
[1:00:07] if it were. But I'll let you guys decide
[1:00:09] what you want to do.
[1:00:10] >> I think so.
[1:00:12] >> I agree.
[1:00:15] >> Let's bump it over there if we would.
[1:00:17] >> We will take it on.
[1:00:18] >> Okay. [clears throat]
[1:00:22] » Anything else, Dave?
[1:00:24] >> No.
[1:00:25] >> Anyone have uh new business from the
[1:00:28] council?
[1:00:28] >> Um I just had two. Um number one um
[1:00:34] what are we going to do about uh the
[1:00:37] knowledge that we were given today?
[1:00:38] What's our next step? Um and I don't
[1:00:40] know if this would go to one of the
[1:00:42] committees uh to look at it. Um I don't
[1:00:45] know if this is something that since the
[1:00:48] risk um is on you. and pouring into a
[1:00:53] private business if we're even the ones
[1:00:56] that would be responsible for these kind
[1:00:58] of solutions. Um, but I really would
[1:01:01] like to just know what the next step is
[1:01:04] um on this study uh that they've done
[1:01:08] even if it just means we're trying to
[1:01:09] figure out it to another deeper level
[1:01:11] that we have to do something with it.
[1:01:14] Any thoughts?
[1:01:18] » I'll start. Um [clears throat] I think
[1:01:21] that
[1:01:23] we've known of the risk prior to the
[1:01:25] study. The study provides information
[1:01:28] about specific types of
[1:01:37] suggest
[1:01:53] it's also the type of project once we
[1:01:55] identify
[1:01:56] We were to update ouration
[1:01:59] planificating
[1:02:22] and yet like you say it's not ours.
[1:02:25] But our people are affected. So we want
[1:02:27] to keep pushing the conversation.
[1:02:34] » I agree.
[1:02:35] >> What committee would that go to? Safety.
[1:02:37] >> Safety.
[1:02:38] >> Give it to the gravel. Gravel committee.
[1:02:41] >> Wayne wants it.
[1:02:41] >> Oh, we want that one.
[1:02:43] >> Yeah. I was just going to comment
[1:02:44] earlier before you jumped in. I think uh
[1:02:46] you guys did an awesome job um giving
[1:02:48] your background information. U the core
[1:02:51] problem is not the high flows. core
[1:02:53] problem is the gravel pit undermined the
[1:02:55] river creating the situation that we're
[1:02:57] now existing. So I think the gravel pit
[1:02:59] is culpable. I think the gravel pit
[1:03:02] needs to stand up and take ownership of
[1:03:03] the problem they've created. I think we
[1:03:05] need to bring the state in because it's
[1:03:07] affecting Interstate 84 and it's
[1:03:10] affecting US 89 and it's affecting our
[1:03:12] citizens. So we shouldn't have to take
[1:03:14] the bill to fix this problem. And I
[1:03:17] agree typically your recommendations are
[1:03:20] go with the least cost. We want to put
[1:03:22] that wall in. Um you could do other
[1:03:25] issues with the um the drainages going
[1:03:28] around the piping, different types of
[1:03:29] bank intakes. U but they all have their
[1:03:32] inherent problems. We need some sort of
[1:03:34] cut off wall curtain to go in there or
[1:03:36] just fill the pit back up. Um but I
[1:03:38] think it's their problem and we need to
[1:03:40] put their feet to the fire and make them
[1:03:42] fix it.
[1:03:47] » Say we could let it flow.
[1:03:48] >> I think that's great. Yeah,
[1:03:53] » I got my boxes. So, ready to go.
[1:03:55] >> You guys got You guys got Wayne fired
[1:03:57] up. [laughter]
[1:03:59] >> Yeah, I was ready to go, but Joe kind of
[1:04:00] stole my thunder. So, thanks, Joel.
[1:04:03] >> Uh, still just a little bit of thunder,
[1:04:05] but I don't think you want this one. Um,
[1:04:07] I got two major complaints and it's
[1:04:09] something that we'll have to handle in
[1:04:10] the parks committee. Um, I just wanted
[1:04:12] to let them know that we were announcing
[1:04:15] it or talking about it. Um the dog park
[1:04:19] is having a uh poo poo problem
[1:04:23] um in which there are a number of
[1:04:26] individuals that bring in multiple dogs
[1:04:28] and just let them run and then well run
[1:04:31] is probably not the right word. Um then
[1:04:34] get out back into the car and just drive
[1:04:37] away.
[1:04:39] Again, I know we're looking at budget,
[1:04:41] so this is one of those things that we
[1:04:44] would look at if we wanted to do a code
[1:04:46] enforcement type of official um because
[1:04:49] right now um it's just left to people uh
[1:04:53] to to have their own integrity. So, but
[1:04:58] we got two of them.
[1:05:01] >> Okay.
[1:05:03] Anyone have think other new business
[1:05:08] committees reports?
[1:05:10] >> No.
[1:05:11] >> Any bills? Committee?
[1:05:13] >> I do. May I use your microphone?
[1:05:16] >> Okay. I just wanted to put one more plug
[1:05:19] in for our Easter egg hunt. That's
[1:05:21] Saturday, April 4th. So, sirens will
[1:05:24] start at 9:00 a.m. sharp. And hats off
[1:05:27] to Shaye and staff. Do you guys want to
[1:05:30] guess how many Easter eggs they filled
[1:05:31] this year?
[1:05:31] >> Oh.
[1:05:34] I thought we did a lot when we did 5,000
[1:05:37] and then we did 6,500 and she blew us
[1:05:39] out of the water.
[1:05:40] >> Yeah.
[1:05:41] >> 14,000.
[1:05:45] » It's amazing how fast they go.
[1:05:48] >> Um, so they're doing it for ages zero.
[1:05:51] >> Yeah, it is. It's like 35 seconds.
[1:05:53] >> 35 seconds and it's over.
[1:05:54] >> Yeah. So, ages 0 to 12. Um, just want to
[1:05:58] make sure the residents of our community
[1:06:00] are there. If we can come support that's
[1:06:02] great. So
[1:06:04] >> okay.
[1:06:04] >> Thank you.
[1:06:06] >> Blair. Do you have anything?
[1:06:08] >> No.
[1:06:09] >> Thank you.
[1:06:10] >> I have nothing. So with that
[1:06:13] report,
[1:06:16] >> you had your time, Dave. Now it's
[1:06:18] >> go right ahead.
[1:06:19] >> Business. I was waiting for
[1:06:20] >> Okay, I'll give you two minutes.
[1:06:23] >> Second. The well-being survey has one
[1:06:26] more week remaining. We have 220
[1:06:29] responses. Two years ago, we dropped to
[1:06:31] 293. So, we would like to get past 293.
[1:06:35] Shay's going to put some information out
[1:06:37] tomorrow. It's the final push, but it
[1:06:41] ended.
[1:06:47] » Is it on the website?
[1:06:48] >> It is.
[1:06:49] >> Yes.
[1:06:52] » Okay. Thank you, Dave.
[1:06:54] >> Look for a motion to adjurnn.
[1:06:56] >> So moved.
[1:06:57] >> Second.
[1:06:58] >> All in favor say I. Nice.