[1:59] Mhm.
[3:41] » Baby, have fun.
[4:16] » Okay, I think we'll get started here.
[4:19] Want to welcome everybody to uh South
[4:21] Weber City Council today at 6:00 p.m.
[4:24] on Tuesday, June 23rd, 2026.
[4:28] We'll begin with the Pledge of
[4:29] Allegiance uh led by
[4:31] uh Councilman Davis, and then I'll offer
[4:34] a prayer.
[4:35] >> Please rise and repeat after me.
[4:39] » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
[4:41] United States of America, and to the
[4:42] republic for which it stands, one nation
[4:46] under God, indivisible,
[4:50] with liberty and justice for
[4:52] all.
[5:03] » Our heavenly Father, we're thankful for
[5:05] the opportunity we have with you
[5:07] here this evening in City Council of the
[5:10] City of South Weber. We're so grateful
[5:12] for
[5:12] this city and the
[5:14] many
[5:17] things that it provides for us.
[5:20] We're grateful for
[5:22] this nation that we live in.
[5:24] Grateful for the freedoms and liberties
[5:26] that we enjoy as we celebrate 250 years.
[5:30] We thank you for
[5:32] this great nation that thou has
[5:34] blessed us with. May that we will
[5:36] realize
[5:37] uh the blessings that we do have.
[5:39] Grateful
[5:40] for
[5:42] all those that serve in the city,
[5:45] volunteers, and staff, employees
[5:49] and firefighters
[5:53] public safety and
[5:54] thankful for them and pray that thou
[5:56] bless them and
[5:57] keep them safe as they
[5:59] serve this great community. Grateful
[6:02] for thy blessings. We pray that as we
[6:04] discuss
[6:06] the things that are important to this
[6:08] city that we might
[6:09] be guided to make the correct decisions
[6:14] and once that will help
[6:16] us grow and lead this
[6:18] city.
[6:19] Grateful for this opportunity.
[6:22] Pray for thy blessings in the name of
[6:23] Jesus Christ. Amen.
[6:28] » I appreciate that pledge.
[6:31] Uh before we have our public comments,
[6:33] we
[6:34] like to have our fire chief, Derek
[6:37] Holman, come up and uh give us a few words
[6:42] on
[6:43] fire protection.
[6:48] » I know uh I've been getting a lot of
[6:49] questions, especially after the govern-
[6:52] governor's statements about why isn't
[6:55] our municipality doing anything at the
[6:57] governor's direction. Um
[7:00] not to speak poorly of our governor, but
[7:02] our governor was clearly misinformed
[7:04] when he said it's up to the
[7:04] municipalities to create changes.
[7:07] And that seems to have riled a lot of
[7:09] people up giving them this idea that we
[7:11] have the ability as a city to affect
[7:13] some kind of change when it comes to
[7:14] fireworks. And I know the council
[7:19] You know, I know the council and the
[7:20] mayor, I know you guys know this, so
[7:22] this is for the benefit of the public
[7:24] that we have as a city, we have till May
[7:27] 1st to approve a fireworks map. After
[7:30] May 1st, we can't make any changes to
[7:32] that map and any further restrictions
[7:35] beyond that map have to come from the
[7:37] state legislature or by an executive
[7:39] emergency declaration from the
[7:41] governor's office.
[7:42] So, any expectation anyone in the public
[7:45] has that that myself as the fire chief
[7:47] or you as the counselor or the mayor can
[7:48] change anything
[7:50] to impact firework use is false.
[7:54] It has to come from the state
[7:55] legislature or by an emergency
[7:57] declaration from the governor's office.
[7:59] And so, while we
[8:01] well, I as the fire chief encourage
[8:04] people to use their best judgment and realize
[8:07] how dry things are and to not shoot
[8:09] fireworks, we have no legal authority as
[8:11] a city to tell people they cannot shoot
[8:14] fireworks.
[8:15] And and people can be held personally
[8:18] responsible for any damage that occurs
[8:20] due to errant fireworks, and that's
[8:23] something people should be considering
[8:24] when they decide to shoot their
[8:25] fireworks.
[8:26] Um
[8:27] but unfortunately, and unless something
[8:29] changes at the state legislature, that
[8:31] authority has been removed from our city
[8:33] to be able to affect any changes moving
[8:36] forward. So, so anyone upset needs to be
[8:38] taking it up with their state
[8:40] legislatures cuz that's ultimately if a
[8:42] change is going to happen, that's where
[8:43] the change needs to come from.
[8:45] So, any I know you again, I know you all
[8:47] know that, but if there's any questions
[8:49] I can answer from you.
[8:52] >> Um
[8:53] does that also affect the
[8:55] like state lands?
[8:57] Like forest land or even the national
[9:00] forest land and does any of that reach
[9:02] our canyon?
[9:03] >> Yes. So, stage one fire restrictions
[9:06] from the state and the county actually
[9:08] went into effect this last week. We
[9:10] posted those on our social media. So,
[9:12] any residents that actually have land
[9:14] that goes into unincorporated county,
[9:16] they can't do any fireworks, they can't
[9:18] do any recreational burns, they can't do
[9:21] anything of that nature. So, the the
[9:23] counties and the state can control
[9:25] unincorporated county and and then
[9:28] through their agreements with the feds,
[9:30] they can affect changes there.
[9:33] But, they've handcuffed cities' ability
[9:35] to do any kind of further restrictions.
[9:38] We were actually one of the cities that
[9:40] actually um did the all outright ban.
[9:43] Some of you were on the council, and it
[9:45] was actually that next legislative
[9:46] session that the legislature passed a
[9:48] law saying we were no longer allowed to
[9:49] do that. So, anyone thinking we're not
[9:52] willing to take this serious, I know in
[9:54] the past we've shown that we are willing
[9:56] to be very serious when it comes to
[9:57] fireworks to the point where we did do
[9:59] an all right all
[10:00] out ban in the past.
[10:03] Mhm.
[10:05] >> So, we do have a map, and we do have a
[10:07] map that shows where our city is
[10:09] restricted. So, we'll we'll just refer
[10:12] everybody to
[10:13] look go online and pull up that map, and
[10:16] those areas we can enforce and will
[10:18] enforce.
[10:19] >> Yep. And if if anyone in the public ever
[10:22] has further questions beyond what I've
[10:23] shared tonight, they're always welcome
[10:25] to reach out to me as well, and I'd be
[10:26] happy to answer any questions they have.
[10:28] >> Thank you, Derek.
[10:31] Okay, public comments. If anyone has any
[10:34] comments they'd like to make, we invite
[10:36] you up to the
[10:37] podium, speak in the microphone, and
[10:39] state your name and the city
[10:41] from which you're from, and we'll allow
[10:43] you 3 minutes to
[10:45] speak.
[10:46] Please address the entire council.
[10:53] No public comments. Okay.
[10:56] We'll move along.
[10:57] First item then on the agenda is the
[10:59] need to approve
[11:00] uh June 9th, 2026 minutes.
[11:04] Council, do you have any changes or
[11:07] uh
[11:09] things that need to be addressed in the
[11:11] minutes. If not, we'll look for a
[11:12] motion.
[11:17] » Motion to approve.
[11:19] >> Have a motion. We have a second.
[11:20] >> Second.
[11:23] All in favor, say I.
[11:24] >> I.
[11:27] » Next item, ordinance 2026-07,
[11:31] changing zoning of 1.45 acre parcel
[11:34] number 130180101
[11:38] at approximately 1550 E66
[11:42] 50 South from agricultural to
[11:44] residential moderate.
[11:47] Uh
[11:48] Council, do you have any
[11:50] discussion on this ordinance?
[11:57] Not, we'll look for a motion.
[11:59] >> Is Is it the plan to just divide it?
[12:06] » Yeah, I think
[12:08] they probably have a family member that
[12:10] wants to build on.
[12:13] » It just says two lots.
[12:15] >> Yeah.
[12:17] They'll create one new lot.
[12:24] » I'm a will serve letter was requested
[12:26] for water this morning.
[12:28] A will serve letter was requested this
[12:30] morning for water.
[12:32] Just don't give permits until that's
[12:34] paid for.
[12:37] >> So that'll be part of the subdivision.
[12:39] It still has to go through the
[12:40] subdivision process.
[12:41] >> So that'll be the first check.
[12:43] >> Preliminary approval with the planning
[12:45] commission and the final plat at the
[12:47] >> Okay.
[12:47] >> approval [clears throat] board and then
[12:48] the approval board.
[12:49] >> Thank you.
[12:53] » Okay, someone like to make a motion.
[12:57] » May I move to approve ordinance 2026-07
[13:00] changing zoning of parcel 130180101
[13:03] from agricultural A-2 residential
[13:05] moderate.
[13:07] >> Second.
[13:08] >> We have motion second. Councilwoman
[13:11] Petty.
[13:13] Start with a roll call vote with
[13:14] Councilman Halverson.
[13:15] >> Aye.
[13:20] » It's unanimous. Motion carries.
[13:24] Uh next item we'll uh look for a motion
[13:26] to open a public hearing.
[13:28] >> Oops.
[13:30] >> What did I forget? Oh, I did.
[13:32] I should have stood up before I went to
[13:34] Resolution 26-21
[13:37] interlocal cooperative agreement with
[13:39] Davis County
[13:40] for law enforcement services.
[13:45] Does anyone have any
[13:47] concerns on this new agreement with them
[13:49] for the year?
[13:51] >> It's pretty much the same, isn't it?
[13:53] Public safety.
[13:54] >> It's pretty much all the same.
[13:56] >> Slight increase.
[13:57] >> They're going to
[13:58] Right.
[14:00] >> Did we ever get the cars with South
[14:02] Weber City painted on the side?
[14:05] No, I didn't think so.
[14:10] Just saying.
[14:11] >> Sounded nice.
[14:12] >> Who's on public
[14:13] I thought that was the public safety
[14:14] committee's responsibility.
[14:16] >> It probably was, you guys.
[14:23] Okay, someone like to make a motion.
[14:28] » Move to approve Resolution 26-21
[14:30] interlocal cooperative agreement with
[14:32] Davis County for law enforcement
[14:34] services as written.
[14:36] >> Second.
[14:38] >> Okay, we have a motion and a second by
[14:39] Councilman Windsor. We'll do roll call
[14:41] vote starting with Councilman Windsor.
[14:43] >> Aye.
[14:49] » Okay, motion carries. Thank you. Now
[14:51] we're ready to do a public
[14:53] hearing.
[14:54] Need to have a motion to
[14:57] open the public hearing for budget
[14:58] amendments for current year 2026.
[15:04] » So moved.
[15:05] >> Second.
[15:07] >> All in favor say aye.
[15:08] >> Aye.
[15:10] >> Okay, public hearing is open. Does
[15:12] anyone have any comments?
[15:17] Seeing none, we'll ask for a motion to
[15:20] close the public hearing.
[15:22] >> So, move to close the public hearing.
[15:25] » Second.
[15:27] >> All in favor say I.
[15:28] >> I.
[15:31] » Okay, resolution 26-22,
[15:34] fiscal year 2026 budget amendment number
[15:37] three.
[15:39] Anyone have any
[15:40] comments or concerns
[15:43] on this resolution?
[15:46] » Brett, do you have anything to
[15:49] update us on more than
[15:51] in the reporter?
[15:52] >> Um no, not at this point other than
[15:55] what's in the staff report.
[15:58] Um there's no changes from that.
[16:01] Um a lot of it is just
[16:03] catching up on on the unknowns things
[16:05] that happened throughout the year,
[16:07] development that occurs, there's
[16:09] revenues and expenditures that that pass
[16:11] through the city.
[16:13] Um and that's where a lot of that
[16:16] change has occurred.
[16:17] Um there are some public work
[16:20] the new building, there's a lot of
[16:21] things that weren't planned for.
[16:25] We didn't know what to expect for
[16:26] utilities and and services directly
[16:29] related to that. So, that's
[16:31] just a lot catching up on a lot of the
[16:33] unknowns that
[16:35] we tried to plan for, but just didn't
[16:37] see coming.
[16:40] » Ty,
[16:42] is it are there any one-time
[16:44] um monies that we're
[16:46] allocating to any of those? I saw one
[16:48] thing for I thought the uh ARPA funds,
[16:51] but
[16:51] >> There was ARPA and and both RAP money
[16:54] were they were used during the during
[16:57] the year that
[16:58] they weren't initially budgeted for, but
[17:01] happened throughout the year. Um they
[17:03] were
[17:04] the the projects were approved. Well,
[17:07] the use of those monies we just didn't
[17:08] have them set in the budget at the time.
[17:11] So, that's kind of why this is kind of a
[17:13] catch-up of what happened throughout the
[17:15] year.
[17:16] >> So, does that mean
[17:18] the the money that we're
[17:20] talking about and balancing out and
[17:22] correcting it back and forth, um
[17:25] have those been added, that additional
[17:28] cost, to the new budget?
[17:31] Um since we're obviously short
[17:33] or high on some of them, um is any of
[17:36] that information ever used in the new
[17:39] budget or
[17:40] could we just keep making the same
[17:41] mistake if it's some of them?
[17:44] >> It's not necessarily a mistake. It's
[17:46] just we don't know the unknown.
[17:49] Um and so that's where the these
[17:51] one-time funds that a lot of the ARPA
[17:53] and and RAP money comes from
[17:56] committees setting setting what projects
[17:58] they want to do. We don't know that at
[18:00] the beginning of the year.
[18:02] Um but as that goes throughout the year,
[18:04] then we look at increasing the budget
[18:07] and and that finally comes to fruition
[18:09] the the project and we we add those
[18:11] funds into that.
[18:13] >> And they were one-time things and they
[18:14] don't need to move to next year's
[18:16] budget.
[18:16] >> But that's that's what I'm asking about
[18:18] is Yeah.
[18:19] >> Um as those one-time things come up,
[18:22] that's when it's discussed um how much
[18:25] and then the project goes forward and
[18:27] then the budget will increase based on
[18:30] that.
[18:31] >> Um and what is sundry?
[18:33] Or sundry or however you say it.
[18:35] >> The sundry,
[18:37] that is
[18:38] for the general fund, that's that's a
[18:40] lot of the miscellaneous payments that
[18:42] we were
[18:44] revenues that we collect. It could be
[18:46] anywhere from
[18:49] Well,
[18:50] that that's kind of what it is. It's a
[18:52] lot of the miscellaneous revenues that
[18:54] we collect.
[18:55] Um
[18:57] it's just kind of true up what we
[19:00] received throughout the year in that in
[19:02] that
[19:04] department. Um
[19:07] it's a lot of generic use.
[19:11] >> So,
[19:11] >> things that we
[19:12] specified elsewhere really.
[19:15] I mean, we do have our our chart of
[19:17] accounts.
[19:17] >> in our next budget that come up, do we
[19:19] have money going to a sundry account?
[19:23] >> We have we do have a budget for that. Um
[19:26] we've always been very very conservative
[19:28] in that to try and make it so that we
[19:31] know exactly where the funds are going,
[19:33] but we don't that's one of those
[19:35] unknowns. We We keep that low
[19:38] and then as things happen throughout the
[19:40] year,
[19:41] um it's just miscellaneous payments. It
[19:43] could be interest, it could be fines, it
[19:45] could be not necessarily fines. We do
[19:47] have one separate for fines, but um
[19:49] there's code enforcement issues that that's where it gets coded. Um
[19:54] things like that that we didn't expect,
[19:56] that's where the sundry revenue comes
[19:57] from.
[20:00] » Okay.
[20:01] I I I don't understand why it's separate
[20:04] from the general fund.
[20:06] Um but I'll vote it, so.
[20:07] >> It's just part of the general fund. It's
[20:09] not separate.
[20:10] >> Okay, so it doesn't it's not some place
[20:13] that we're actually setting up a line
[20:15] item for sundry and putting money into
[20:17] that.
[20:18] >> It's No, it's it's the miscellaneous
[20:20] revenue that we collect from
[20:23] >> from customers.
[20:25] >> Thank you.
[20:28] » Okay, any other questions?
[20:32] I'll ask for a motion on this then.
[20:38] » Mayor, I move to approve resolution
[20:40] 26-22 of fiscal year 2026 budget
[20:43] amendment number three.
[20:45] >> Second.
[20:47] >> Motion is seconded by Councilman
[20:49] Windsor. We'll do roll call starting
[20:50] with Councilman Halverson.
[20:51] >> Aye.
[20:56] » Great. Motion carries. Next item,
[20:59] resolution 26-23 amend the
[21:02] consolidated fee schedule.
[21:05] Any questions on this resolution?
[21:08] Or discussion?
[21:12] » I just like a little history on it. Is
[21:14] it Did we go through a process again of
[21:16] verifying how many hours we're spending
[21:19] doing these doing these items and making
[21:22] sure that we're getting
[21:23] all of our money for it?
[21:25] Or what did we do?
[21:27] >> Yes, there was there was some analysis.
[21:29] A lot of it came from either committees
[21:31] and or and or staff based on the
[21:34] knowledge that they have. Um for
[21:36] example, one of those is the fire
[21:38] hydrant.
[21:39] Um
[21:40] for up until this year, well, for even
[21:43] for this current year, we were charging
[21:45] $500 plus a I think at that point it was
[21:48] a $25 non-refundable deposit. Um now
[21:54] we we've done analysis and figured out
[21:56] that the actual cost is is closer to
[21:58] $1,500.
[22:00] Um and the maintenance that goes along
[22:02] with that, so we increased the
[22:04] non-refundable to $100 and the deposit
[22:07] on that is $1,500 to cover the cost of the hydrant. There's there's little
[22:12] things, not little, but there's things
[22:14] throughout the the fee schedule where analysis was done on our actual
[22:19] cost to either and we we raised the a
[22:23] lot of those costs and due to that. Um
[22:25] there were some pass-through that we
[22:28] don't really have a say in. Uh we just
[22:31] have to pass that on to on to the
[22:33] residents. Um but as far as some of the utility charges
[22:38] >> Trash.
[22:39] >> Um but
[22:40] um we did do quite a bit of analysis and
[22:42] reviews um along with I changed the
[22:45] format of the the fee schedule to be
[22:50] uh in my eyes it it's easier to read and
[22:53] understand and see one column of where
[22:56] all the fees are.
[22:58] Um
[22:59] but uh there there was a change in the
[23:02] fee schedule and how it looks.
[23:04] Um
[23:06] but
[23:07] if there if there's anything specific
[23:09] you guys want to discuss or ask about
[23:13] >> No, I'm just happy that due diligence is
[23:15] being done, at least from from my point
[23:17] of view.
[23:18] Um do you feel that all the areas have
[23:20] been hit that are important?
[23:22] >> Yes, I I believe
[23:25] there's
[23:27] there may be some things here and there
[23:29] that I didn't have a chance to get to.
[23:32] Um but I feel like we covered a majority
[23:35] of the of the questions and concerns
[23:38] that either council has brought to us or
[23:40] that the committees have brought to us
[23:42] along with staff's recommendations.
[23:45] >> Awesome. Thank you.
[23:49] » Any others?
[23:52] Ask for a motion.
[23:57] » Mayor, I'll move to approve resolution
[23:58] 26-23 amending the consolidated fee
[24:01] schedule.
[24:01] >> Second.
[24:04] >> Okay, we have motion and second. We'll
[24:05] do roll call starting with Councilman
[24:07] Wood.
[24:07] >> Aye.
[24:11] >> Okay, motion carries. And next
[24:13] [clears throat]
[24:14] resolution 26-24 adopt fiscal year 2027
[24:18] interim budget.
[24:20] Any discussion on this?
[24:28] » So can somebody help me understand what
[24:30] this one specifically is?
[24:32] Because we have that listed here as the
[24:35] um
[24:36] uh
[24:37] which rate?
[24:39] Whether we're going to hold to the rate
[24:40] or whether we're going to increase.
[24:42] >> So let me try and explain this
[24:47] in in a way cuz it it there's a lot of
[24:50] moving pieces here.
[24:52] Um so the the first initial piece
[24:56] is that
[24:59] the the choice to to hold the rate
[25:03] there's a calculation process that goes
[25:05] into that and
[25:09] I'm estimating two different numbers to
[25:11] come up with that rate.
[25:13] And my estimations are coming from the
[25:15] county and from the state.
[25:17] Um
[25:18] I don't know what they are and I I
[25:20] estimated the best that I could and
[25:23] in the end when we got the final numbers
[25:25] for the uh the property tax valuation
[25:28] and the revenue that we collect
[25:31] um and the certified tax rate that the
[25:33] county would give us
[25:35] um they were all a little bit different.
[25:38] And which caused
[25:40] because of us wanting to hold that rate
[25:43] give us less revenue in our in our
[25:46] property tax revenue than what I had
[25:49] estimated. So, that's where we come up
[25:51] with that initial
[25:53] budget adjustment of of $21,000.
[25:57] Um and then along with that the property
[25:59] tax value impact schedule changed. So,
[26:03] now that we have um
[26:06] about rather than the $39,000 originally
[26:09] that we were expecting we're expecting a $13,000
[26:13] increase in property tax revenue.
[26:17] That's kind of all of that in a
[26:20] nutshell. Do you
[26:23] >> Yeah, let me let me try to say it
[26:24] another way in case
[26:26] uh
[26:27] just in case people hear differently.
[26:29] So, our tax rate in 2026 was 0.001434.
[26:35] So, 1434.
[26:37] Um the county just provided us with the
[26:40] certified tax rate for this year, which
[26:42] is 1421.
[26:44] So, down a little bit uh because
[26:47] property values on the whole in the city
[26:49] went up a little bit. And uh the city
[26:51] would then receive the same amount of
[26:53] property tax uh uh amount as last year
[26:56] if we accepted that certified tax rate.
[26:58] To this point, the council has said they
[27:00] wanted to maintain the 1434
[27:03] rate, and therefore the intent to go
[27:05] through truth in taxation, the estimated
[27:09] additional value that we would get is
[27:12] $39,000.
[27:14] Now that we know the actual certified
[27:16] tax rate, we know that the actual
[27:20] property tax value above and beyond the
[27:23] certified tax rate is actually
[27:26] just under $13,000.
[27:28] So, [clears throat] we estimated 3%
[27:30] increase, it ends up being about a 1%
[27:32] increase.
[27:33] And so, that uh tax impact schedule that
[27:36] we had to create that showed $39,000
[27:40] that if we go through the truth in
[27:42] taxation process and choose not to hold
[27:45] the rate and to actually take the
[27:47] certified tax rate, that money would be
[27:49] removed out of the budget, that 39,000.
[27:52] Now we only need to show $13,000 on that
[27:56] schedule.
[27:58] Okay? So, that's one decision point is
[27:59] what $13,000 do we maintain on our on
[28:02] our schedule there?
[28:04] >> That will get us to the one 1329, the
[28:07] 1,329,000,
[28:08] correct?
[28:10] >> Yes.
[28:11] >> Okay.
[28:11] >> So, we estimated the total amount of
[28:14] money for the city to receive in
[28:16] property tax at 1,350,000.
[28:20] Um that rate of 1434 actually will
[28:23] provide to us, based on the county
[28:25] numbers, 1,329,000.
[28:29] So, while we need to show 13,000 as our
[28:31] tax impact schedule,
[28:34] we also need to reduce our budget by
[28:36] $21,000
[28:38] because that's
[28:39] how much higher we estimated what our
[28:42] revenue would be by holding the rate
[28:43] than what it actually is. So, staff
[28:46] suggestion to the council in order to
[28:49] remove $21,000 from the general fund
[28:51] expenses
[28:53] is to look at our previous tax impact
[28:55] schedule that had 39,000 on it and say
[28:58] what of that 39,000
[29:00] is not going to be in the budget next year. What are we
[29:05] cutting? What $21,000 are we cutting?
[29:08] Staff has worked with the department
[29:09] heads, Brett and I um have talked
[29:11] through that and have right made a
[29:13] recommendation. The council of course um
[29:16] can look at anything in the in the
[29:18] general fund departments to say this is
[29:21] money we would like to adjust uh or pull
[29:23] out. Uh but on that tax impact schedule
[29:26] of currently 39,000, 21 needs to
[29:29] actually be removed from the budget and told us tonight, remove 21,000 and
[29:36] this is what the interim budget now will
[29:38] include. And then as a second decision,
[29:40] what needs to be on the new tax impact
[29:42] schedule that shows 13,000. Cuz that's
[29:45] the actual amount above certified tax
[29:47] rate we will receive by going through
[29:49] truth in taxation and if the council um
[29:52] holds the rate of 14.34.
[29:55] Does that make sense? There's a lot of
[29:57] moving pieces in there, so if it
[29:58] doesn't, please ask for clarification.
[30:00] >> So, if I understand
[30:02] >> [clears throat]
[30:03] >> procedure correct, the first question
[30:05] then before before the council is are we
[30:09] going to hold the rate
[30:11] or are we going to
[30:14] adjust the rate?
[30:16] >> Well, that decision does not have to be
[30:17] made tonight because the intent to go
[30:20] through truth in taxation was already
[30:22] made.
[30:22] >> Right, but
[30:24] if we're going to be putting forward a
[30:26] budget that is minus now $21,000,
[30:32] we need to give input on where that
[30:34] money is supposed to come from.
[30:36] >> Yes, the decision tonight has to be what
[30:38] 21,000 is removed from the budget. Yes,
[30:42] first decision.
[30:43] >> Okay, so if we're not going to hold the
[30:45] rate
[30:46] then we all 39
[30:47] >> to the 34,000.
[30:49] >> Yes, come out of the
[30:50] >> Uh-huh.
[30:54] » So,
[30:55] procedure-wise,
[30:57] we don't have to vote on the rate yet.
[31:00] >> No. No, that will be after the truth in
[31:02] taxation hearing in August.
[31:03] >> Okay. So, after that meeting
[31:06] I I guess I don't understand if if we if
[31:09] we're not going to set the actual
[31:10] amount, we have to set right now what's
[31:13] going to be taken out of it.
[31:15] >> Because we estimated $21,000
[31:18] high in our budget. We have a budget
[31:20] document that we know we're not going to
[31:23] get that amount of revenue now that the
[31:25] county has told us the actual revenue
[31:27] number. So, we need to remove $21,000
[31:30] out of our interim budget.
[31:32] >> But not if we're going to raise the rate
[31:35] to meet that amount.
[31:36] >> Even if we raise the rate and hold 1434,
[31:40] we are short $21,000.
[31:42] >> He's saying if we raise it above that.
[31:44] >> We cannot raise it above we
[31:45] >> 34 that's what we've noticed.
[31:47] >> Okay. Yeah, 1434 is now the highest we
[31:50] can we can go.
[31:51] >> Okay.
[31:52] >> Yeah.
[31:52] >> Good clarification.
[31:54] Thank you.
[31:55] Um
[31:57] Okay, how do we want to handle the what
[31:59] needs to be pulled out then?
[32:01] Because I don't think we've had really
[32:02] much communication and discussion on
[32:05] that other than the list of um
[32:08] getting rid of the trees, taking off a
[32:10] few other things,
[32:12] and not touching anything like executive
[32:14] salaries.
[32:15] >> That's the decision for the council.
[32:17] Staff's recommendation is to look at the
[32:19] previous 39,000 and choose what of that
[32:23] is removed. But again, the council
[32:25] anything on the anything in the budget
[32:28] is the council's decision. Um as we get
[32:30] to near the end of this process,
[32:33] um staff's recommendation is that 39,000
[32:36] was the initial list of what we would
[32:38] cut out of the budget if we didn't get
[32:40] the revenue from truth and taxation. And
[32:43] so that feels like the first list of
[32:45] items to to consider. But again, council
[32:48] >> I wish that staff would have provided
[32:50] more than just that.
[32:53] Um cuz to me it almost seems like you
[32:55] guys picked and chose which one you
[32:57] wanted. And I know you went through the
[32:58] committees and those kind of things, but
[33:00] at the same time um we spent a lot of
[33:03] money on the uh training and trips and
[33:06] things like that that could be shed off.
[33:09] Again, executive uh pay structure, uh
[33:12] maybe taking that just down to a cola
[33:14] for this year uh or whenever. Um I'm not
[33:17] saying that that's what we are going to
[33:19] do. I'm just saying there should have
[33:20] been an I would have appreciated, I
[33:23] can't say for the council, I would have
[33:24] appreciated list of more than just those
[33:27] items.
[33:30] Okay.
[33:31] Because I don't I don't put in any equal
[33:34] um
[33:35] level uh our fire station and their
[33:39] needs with maybe
[33:42] pushing to get um
[33:43] one of the projects done this year that
[33:47] isn't going to have a a big impact if it
[33:50] waited another year or two.
[33:52] Um but I don't know any of those are
[33:54] what they can be. So do you understand
[33:56] how that's limiting
[33:58] and what our choices can be?
[34:01] >> Sure. Yeah, I I see how you feel that
[34:03] way. I also I also feel personally that
[34:06] we came up with that list based on
[34:08] council direction, that it wasn't staff
[34:10] working in a bubble, but I do I do
[34:12] totally get the feeling that that we
[34:15] were tasked with providing that list of
[34:16] 39,000 and and the council was not in
[34:19] the room when we decided what that
[34:21] 39,000 was to put on the list.
[34:24] >> Mayor, can we have that list brought up
[34:26] on the screen so we can see what the
[34:28] staff did identify that equal to that
[34:30] 39,000 so we could then start
[34:32] >> staff [clears throat] did what we asked
[34:34] them to do.
[34:36] >> It's pretty straightforward what they
[34:37] did.
[34:38] >> and staff did that.
[34:39] >> if you have your packet.
[34:40] >> Well, staff has always uh
[34:43] >> Lisa can pull it up. That's all he's
[34:44] asking.
[34:45] >> This is what we recommend, but it is the
[34:47] council's decision on all of it.
[34:49] >> Yeah, I'm just hoping that bring the
[34:50] conversation forward. If we could start
[34:51] with that list to answer the question,
[34:53] what do we remove to get it down to 13?
[34:56] And I it would be helpful to see that
[34:57] cuz I don't have it memorized. I don't
[34:58] remember what all of them are so I'm
[34:59] just
[35:01] >> Is this the list you're referring to?
[35:02] >> Yes.
[35:03] >> Okay.
[35:03] >> Those are the things that add up to the
[35:05] 21,000.
[35:07] And the tax impact schedule
[35:09] uh
[35:13] » Where is the full one?
[35:17] » It is
[35:18] page
[35:22] The tax impact schedule's on on page 46.
[35:32] » Those are the other items that were on
[35:34] the list.
[35:35] >> The
[35:36] Are you talking about the original
[35:37] property tax impact schedule?
[35:39] >> Just to see the full list, not just the
[35:41] 21,000.
[35:42] >> That is not
[35:43] >> That's not in the
[35:44] >> That is not in the packet.
[35:46] >> So, what I'm seeing is that previous
[35:48] this page is on the screen right now are
[35:50] the things staff is recommending to
[35:52] remove to get us into budget.
[35:54] >> Yes, to complete the list.
[35:55] >> were on the previous page were the ones
[35:57] that you want to retain, the trees and I
[35:59] can't remember the other item.
[36:02] >> Youth City Council, those kind of
[36:03] things.
[36:06] So, if you look at page 44, I can walk
[36:08] you through
[36:10] uh So, if you look at page 44,
[36:13] um it shows
[36:15] the account number, the account name,
[36:19] and then
[36:20] what it was in the May tentative budget
[36:23] that was adopted, and then what we're
[36:26] suggesting is uh
[36:28] what the new one, the interim budget
[36:30] would be, which is the difference of
[36:32] 21,000. It shows where where that
[36:35] changes and what is what is decreasing
[36:38] out of that.
[36:39] That's the that's the suggested amount
[36:42] uh of difference there.
[36:44] The previous tax impact schedule
[36:47] um
[36:48] Lisa's going to grab that
[36:51] um to show the full list.
[36:58] 39,000? Yeah.
[37:05] This was in a
[37:08] one of a category
[37:11] list rather than a more detailed list with
[37:16] and these categories but the various
[37:18] categories and
[37:20] um
[37:21] were summarized rather than lined up in
[37:24] the list.
[37:30] So ultimately our suggestion is to
[37:34] reduce almost all of the line items that
[37:37] were already in there either either
[37:41] um
[37:43] either completely remove those or
[37:45] decrease those line items
[37:48] um the full amount that we originally
[37:50] had looked at
[37:52] or or more than we had originally looked
[37:54] at
[37:55] um and ultimately leave that $13,000
[38:00] as
[38:01] >> [clears throat]
[38:02] >> um
[38:03] stuff that would stay on the
[38:06] impact schedule
[38:07] meaning if we go through tourism
[38:09] taxation get to the end and say no we
[38:11] don't want to hold the rate. Um what we
[38:14] would leave on that is $13,000, 11,000
[38:17] of a transfer from the general fund to
[38:19] the rec fund and $2,000 um in trails and
[38:22] tree.
[38:24] That would remain on the impact schedule
[38:26] that we would hope still goes into the
[38:28] budget at the end of the process.
[38:30] But the 21,000 will have to be
[38:32] completely removed from the budget.
[38:36] Regardless of truth and taxation or not.
[38:39] >> Well, I guess the
[38:41] we can probably just make this kind of
[38:42] simple.
[38:44] Um
[38:45] Am I the only one who has a problem with
[38:48] these items versus
[38:51] staff pay?
[38:54] >> For me, I think staff pay is right where
[38:56] it needs to be as far as what we agreed
[38:58] to increase it. So,
[39:00] I would not be in favor of reducing that
[39:01] number.
[39:03] >> When did we agree to raise that? When we
[39:05] were talking through our other budget
[39:08] numbers.
[39:09] >> We haven't passed a budget number yet.
[39:11] >> That's That's what I'm trying to say is
[39:13] Okay, no, I understand. I understand.
[39:15] >> Yes, we haven't supported it's not
[39:16] official, but I support the staff
[39:19] increase.
[39:19] >> Okay. I see.
[39:23] Cuz if I'm the only one that's looking
[39:25] to do that, there's no reason to
[39:27] continue wasting everyone's valuable
[39:30] time.
[39:36] » I'm good with I'm good with staff's
[39:38] proposal. I don't get a vote.
[39:42] » This is a very small item for that, but
[39:44] on the staff uniforms and some of those
[39:46] things, we didn't we just match our
[39:48] current year's expenses though?
[39:50] It's very, very close. Are we now going
[39:52] to be upside down in those accounts?
[39:55] There were some line items that we did
[39:57] just match
[39:59] straight across.
[40:00] >> For majority of those, we did match. I
[40:03] did do an analysis and I and there were
[40:05] some that
[40:06] I adjusted, but it wasn't any of these
[40:09] line items that that increased.
[40:11] >> Okay.
[40:12] >> in FY 2020.
[40:13] >> isn't enough in there to cover it cuz
[40:14] like with uniforms and some of those
[40:16] supplies, and sure have contracts with
[40:18] those people. It's not like we can
[40:19] change that.
[40:20] >> Yeah, there's there's some things that
[40:24] some contracts that we that we may have
[40:26] to look at changing,
[40:28] but it's not a drastic change. Um that
[40:31] it should have is still should be
[40:32] covered under after the with the interim budget
[40:37] that we have.
[40:38] Um they should be covered enough, and
[40:40] that's why we try to look at different
[40:42] things to see where
[40:44] we would just reduce
[40:46] several line items rather than
[40:48] completely eliminate
[40:51] line items because there's some line
[40:53] items that we can't eliminate.
[40:55] And so we try to look at it as a as a
[40:57] whole group.
[40:58] Where can we make minimal adjustments to
[41:01] and still um have our balanced budget,
[41:05] um and where can we make those cuts?
[41:09] >> I could see
[41:11] you're spreading out the pain.
[41:13] >> Correct.
[41:13] >> Say what? Amongst all the groups.
[41:16] I'm going to
[41:17] step into it.
[41:19] >> [clears throat]
[41:20] >> And ask a just a general question about
[41:22] travel and training.
[41:24] Generally speaking, is there required
[41:27] travel training to maintain
[41:29] certifications or whatever that staff
[41:31] need for a given year?
[41:34] >> Yes.
[41:34] >> And is that the whole $21,000?
[41:37] Or is some of that
[41:39] um
[41:40] optional?
[41:42] I know the council goes and does the
[41:44] annual conference down south. If we were
[41:46] to forego that one year, that's money
[41:48] that we could save right there. Um not
[41:50] going to that that conference.
[41:54] So, would it be better to not shave it
[41:56] off on everybody,
[41:58] hold those other budgets, and take the
[42:00] greater sum out of I'm just using it as
[42:03] an example, but
[42:03] >> Yeah.
[42:04] >> First question is, is $21,000 the
[42:07] required training that staff require to
[42:10] maintain certifications, or can we
[42:12] forego a lot of this travel for 1 year?
[42:16] >> Well, this line item line item is travel
[42:18] and training specific to the fire
[42:20] department. It's not across the board.
[42:22] >> Okay.
[42:24] And so, that answers the first question.
[42:25] This is for certifications and main
[42:27] maintain certifications. Okay.
[42:30] >> Well, when we initially looked at
[42:33] this task of needing to create the
[42:35] impact schedule at the very first, we
[42:38] looked at line items that either had
[42:40] increased from last year to this year,
[42:42] or the trend was such that we felt like
[42:45] where we had budgeted in in the past had
[42:47] some room to decrease. We were not
[42:49] trying to get into
[42:51] anything that was essential at all. So,
[42:54] everything on this list is stuff that we
[42:57] feel like we can still maintain our our
[42:59] level of service to the community
[43:01] without significant loss, although we do
[43:04] need to shave a little bit here and
[43:06] there.
[43:06] >> So, to say it maybe in another way, the
[43:10] tentative numbers
[43:12] uh I'm going to stop there and I'll try
[43:13] to say it a different way. The increase
[43:15] between last year's budget and this
[43:17] proposed budget uh was for growth or new
[43:20] opportunities.
[43:22] We're suggesting to go back to the
[43:24] previous year's budget because we have
[43:26] that ability rather than to grow that
[43:28] budget.
[43:29] >> Generally speaking, I'd agree with that,
[43:31] but you'd want to look at every line
[43:33] item specifically to say what was it
[43:35] what was the budget last year, were we
[43:37] intending to increase it a certain
[43:39] amount, or are we
[43:41] shaving off a little bit from last year?
[43:42] >> not shaving below what the 3-year
[43:45] average of the previous budgets or
[43:46] previous expenses have been.
[43:48] >> Right. Correct.
[43:49] >> Okay. So, we're
[43:53] » Yeah, the first thing we looked at when
[43:55] we know knew that we needed to have the
[43:57] conversation of cutting budget was what
[44:00] had we intended to maybe grow or
[44:03] increase that we now need to maintain
[44:05] instead.
[44:06] That that was the first look, as well as
[44:08] where we spending money.
[44:10] Um
[44:11] let's say we have a line item that's a
[44:13] $10,000 number and our average over the
[44:15] last few years we've come in at 8,500 or
[44:18] 9,000. Okay, well then we feel like we can take 500 out of that
[44:22] or 1,000 out of that. Um and that's how
[44:25] we looked at it initially.
[44:27] >> Initially. But if we were to say take
[44:29] the 3-year averages,
[44:31] would you be able to shave more off of
[44:33] any one of these categories if we were
[44:34] to say, "Hey, take the 3-year average
[44:37] and use that number."
[44:38] >> Potentially.
[44:40] I don't I don't think
[44:43] there's I don't think there's a lot more
[44:44] wiggle room off of off of this.
[44:48] That's why we put it in there as stuff
[44:50] that we hoped to not pull out of the
[44:52] budget, right? The intent initially was
[44:54] we go through truth and taxation, we
[44:56] receive $1.35 million in property tax
[44:59] revenue, all of this remains in the
[45:01] budget. However, now we know that we're
[45:04] going to be 21,000 short, so we know we
[45:06] have to pull it out of the budget
[45:08] completely. It's no longer a we think we
[45:12] can get that at the end of the truth and
[45:13] taxation process. We know we won't. So
[45:16] now we have to cut $21,000 out of our
[45:18] expenses.
[45:20] So the first place to look is what we
[45:22] had hoped to include, but maybe not.
[45:24] Well, now it's a for sure not.
[45:27] >> Question that's out there from the
[45:28] public would be how
[45:30] It's a challenging question, but I'm not
[45:32] challenging it. Just asked to explain
[45:33] how did staff come up to these
[45:35] categories in which to choose the
[45:37] deductions? Cuz the budget has many many line items. How did How did these raise to the top? Were
[45:45] they
[45:46] significant increases from the previous
[45:48] budget or what was the rationale or the
[45:50] qualifications that identified these
[45:52] that was were faced in the
[45:54] >> Well, when the state law changed and
[45:56] said you have to identify that gap, we
[45:59] recognized it as $39,000 initially from
[46:02] our budget estimate to and so that was
[46:04] an estimate, 39,000.
[46:08] >> [clears throat]
[46:08] >> When we brought that forward, the
[46:09] council said, "Look at that across
[46:11] departments." So, we brought in each of
[46:13] our department heads and we talked
[46:15] through their individual budgets within
[46:18] their department of where they felt like
[46:21] there was room to shave so that it
[46:23] wouldn't significantly affect their department performance. And what
[46:29] they looked at first was where had we increased budget or where
[46:35] had our trends been lower than what we
[46:37] have as budget.
[46:39] We also had the philosophical
[46:41] conversation of where does where does
[46:43] staff pay fit into that cuz we do have
[46:45] in the budget right now market-based
[46:48] increases and uh
[46:52] from a staff perspective
[46:55] that felt like a priority to maintain
[46:57] service level
[46:59] with with our current employees and
[47:01] staffing. Again, philosophical
[47:03] conversation
[47:05] but I've heard from from councils in the
[47:07] past and council members today that they
[47:11] feel like staff needs to be
[47:14] within market so that we're not losing
[47:17] staff members. And the council's made
[47:19] decisions in the past to try to keep
[47:22] staff within market range. So,
[47:25] we did the market-based study has those
[47:27] recommendations in there.
[47:30] So, fundamentally we started with
[47:33] maintaining those market-based study
[47:36] decisions intact and looked at those
[47:39] other line items first. That that's the
[47:41] philosophy that was followed.
[47:43] >> Thank you.
[47:48] And Wayne, just at first glance cuz I
[47:50] was trying to find what we budget for
[47:52] like the one the one trip that we do
[47:56] and it that whole line item budget for
[47:58] the full council staff
[48:00] is $2,000 and that's both spring and
[48:03] fall. So, it could be reduced.
[48:07] I was just I thought it was a bigger
[48:08] number.
[48:08] >> Yeah, so it was nice.
[48:09] >> That's why I was That's why I was
[48:10] looking it up.
[48:13] » I think you're looking in the wrong
[48:14] place.
[48:16] >> Mhm, it says ULCT spring and fall
[48:18] conferences.
[48:19] >> Where at?
[48:20] >> Page 61.
[48:22] >> I mean, if it really I mean, this
[48:23] stipend that I get monthly
[48:25] I mean, I could donate that back.
[48:27] You know, I don't I don't have to take
[48:28] the $300 a month stipend. What is that?
[48:31] point
[48:33] $3,000
[48:36] You know, if I don't do that, there's part of it right there. That's
[48:39] 1/7 of it.
[48:41] >> If what?
[48:42] >> I don't take my stipend.
[48:44] I deny the stipends as that we get as as
[48:46] council members.
[48:48] That's one way to bring it down and then
[48:49] we'd have to shave all these other
[48:50] categories.
[48:52] I mean
[48:54] >> There's probably a lot more that already
[48:55] do that.
[48:56] >> Yeah. Well, I'm not saying everybody,
[48:58] but I'm just saying that's that's
[48:59] another place we can go that staff
[49:00] hadn't considered, but
[49:02] it's an option.
[49:05] If we're trying to reduce those
[49:06] increases.
[49:13] So, that's one. I'll donate mine back.
[49:15] He can have it.
[49:17] I'm serious.
[49:43] » Okay.
[49:45] Council, what would we like to do?
[49:48] >> Well,
[49:49] with Wayne's $3,000
[49:53] » gets down to $17,600
[49:56] we need to come up with.
[49:57] >> Well, maybe we can now buy snow
[49:59] supplies. No.
[50:01] They'll have to be emergency
[50:02] preparedness.
[50:07] And that's what I was trying to say is
[50:09] that uh we don't even have options up
[50:12] here. So, it's just us trying to
[50:13] brainstorm one of the things that we
[50:15] could do
[50:16] because the only ones that we were given
[50:17] was this.
[50:19] And if this was something that came,
[50:20] like I said, from the committees or from
[50:24] groups together that just decided these,
[50:27] it should have been more than just
[50:30] those
[50:31] so that there was a selection process
[50:34] for
[50:35] the city council
[50:37] uh to be able to say, "No, this is where
[50:40] we deem the money should have been
[50:42] spent."
[50:43] >> In in their defense,
[50:45] these were listed when we had
[50:47] the public hearings.
[50:49] for the
[50:49] >> I argued on them then, too. And I argued
[50:51] that we ought to have a discussion about
[50:53] the salary instead. That disappeared
[50:56] real quick.
[50:57] Um and
[51:00] there's still other ones. So, I I'm not
[51:01] trying to attack them. And that's when
[51:03] every time we bring up this
[51:06] bloody subject, it's either or that now
[51:08] we're fighting against staff.
[51:11] I'm asking honest questions is what I
[51:13] feel my responsibility is
[51:16] to
[51:17] honestly look at what the city residents
[51:21] are getting out of each one of these
[51:23] budgets. And when we increase the
[51:25] amount,
[51:26] are they getting an increase in services
[51:29] or is it going to
[51:33] internal?
[51:35] So,
[51:36] like I said, I I I appreciate the
[51:39] discussion that we've had.
[51:41] I understand that I'm
[51:42] lone guy on this. So,
[51:44] uh I think all we have to do then is
[51:46] just go into the vote to approve this.
[51:52] I'll say my no and we can move on.
[52:00] Okay.
[52:08] I'm ready to
[52:08] >> Yeah, Mayor I move to approve resolution
[52:11] 2624 adopting fiscal year 2027 interim
[52:14] budget with the amendment to have staff
[52:19] account for Wayne's donation.
[52:26] » I don't care where you take it from
[52:28] virtually. I think I'm 100% in line with
[52:31] whatever what you have recommended here.
[52:33] So
[52:34] if you want to subtract 3,000 from
[52:36] 8,000, whatever you feel is the most
[52:37] important, that's that's my motion.
[52:41] » I know we have a motion on the table.
[52:42] Can I ask a question though? So
[52:44] obviously I wasn't here for the meetings
[52:46] when we had this discussion. So
[52:49] you city council, we were
[52:52] starting it for the fall
[52:54] to run concurrently with the school
[52:55] years.
[52:57] But knowing that that was taken down to
[52:59] 1,000, I was like, okay. But now it's
[53:01] being abolished completely. Is everybody
[53:03] okay with this?
[53:05] Cuz this is the first time like with
[53:07] this packet is the first discussion
[53:09] we've had about. So
[53:11] if that's the direction of the council,
[53:13] then that's the direction of the
[53:14] council. But that's really hard for me
[53:16] to try to
[53:18] >> If we change
[53:18] >> fundraise $1,000.
[53:20] >> city council budget, the youth city
[53:21] council could come right back on.
[53:23] The problem we have is we've never spent
[53:26] as long as a few people been on council,
[53:29] we've never spent our budget city
[53:30] council budget
[53:32] cuz there's been more than two or three
[53:34] that have always donated their time.
[53:36] And but yet we still are
[53:39] kind of obligated to budget it because
[53:40] that's not the way it will always be.
[53:43] And so that amount is also he still
[53:44] budgets that amount.
[53:46] Even with Wayne's generosity, other
[53:48] people's generosity, that that amount
[53:50] still gets budgeted.
[53:52] Um but it could come right back on with
[53:55] that amount if if everybody would prefer
[53:57] to have the youth council still have a
[53:59] $2,500 budget.
[54:02] Or even put a $1,000 budget in there for
[54:04] it or whatever.
[54:06] >> I and I will go from the direction of
[54:08] the council. I'm just saying like as as
[54:10] it as is I will not move forward in the
[54:13] fall
[54:14] because there's no point in me
[54:15] recruiting and creating a program
[54:19] to start September when I have no money
[54:21] until this is approved and or added back
[54:24] to after we have our thing our
[54:27] truth and taxation in August. So my
[54:30] hands are tied for this year
[54:32] if we do this. And if that's the
[54:33] direction, I'm fine with that. We can
[54:36] try again another time, but
[54:39] that's where I'm at.
[54:40] >> assume too.
[54:41] >> Do we have an
[54:41] >> Do we have the interest? That's what I
[54:43] mean.
[54:43] >> That's yeah, if we have the interest I
[54:44] think
[54:45] >> interest I don't think I don't feel like
[54:46] the council should go out and recruit.
[54:49] I think we should have youth that want
[54:51] to be involved.
[54:53] Otherwise, we have
[54:56] a real hard time getting them involved
[54:59] to do things.
[54:59] >> Sure. I I feel like um we've already
[55:03] changed the youth city council budget
[55:05] from what it was and transferred that
[55:07] money over to help supplement the city
[55:10] activities with staff.
[55:13] So to me that's part of that
[55:16] part of the issue of having kids come to
[55:19] run those events. That has been taken
[55:22] care of, so it would change what the
[55:24] city council looks like.
[55:26] What their responsibilities and roles
[55:28] and everything they do in the city
[55:30] changes
[55:32] with that move over to having staff paid
[55:35] for. So
[55:38] cuz because I agree that was an issue in
[55:40] the past is getting relying on enough of
[55:42] the youth to come help run all those
[55:44] things.
[55:49] I just need to know what to do, guys. I
[55:50] like
[55:51] >> You could you could definitely cover it.
[55:52] I mean, with just the one line item that
[55:55] Wayne referred to, we currently budget
[55:57] 27,000. Our actual expenses are 21,600.
[56:00] That would reduce to 18,600.
[56:03] And you're budgeting 27,000. If we
[56:05] wanted to reduce that line item, it
[56:06] wouldn't be a problem.
[56:10] » You're talking about the city council
[56:11] budget.
[56:12] >> Mhm.
[56:12] >> But it's a it's a one-time thing.
[56:15] Year to year.
[56:16] >> Yeah, but
[56:16] >> Right.
[56:23] » Okay, we have a motion on the table.
[56:26] >> The motion was
[56:27] >> that decides if you want me to redraw
[56:30] withdraw my emotion my emotion.
[56:32] >> I would I would prefer
[56:33] >> you put something in there for
[56:36] youth council.
[56:38] >> Okay. Uh I'll amend my motion to uh
[56:41] refund youth council with the generosity
[56:44] of Mr. Windsor.
[56:48] » Amend it to what?
[56:49] >> So, basically, we're going to reduce the
[56:51] city council budget item by my amount, but we're going to put 2,500
[56:57] back into the youth city council line
[56:59] item.
[57:01] It'll be a net difference
[57:03] to the city's benefit.
[57:04] >> Correct.
[57:05] >> I'm giving back more than what the city
[57:07] council or youth city council is
[57:08] budgeting for. So, I think it stays
[57:10] whole.
[57:12] >> I'll second that motion.
[57:15] >> We have a motion and second by
[57:17] Councilman Windsor.
[57:18] Do roll call starting with Councilman
[57:20] Halverson.
[57:20] >> Aye.
[57:26] >> No.
[57:26] >> Aye.
[57:29] >> Okay, 4-1. Motion carries. Thank you.
[57:35] Next item, resolution 26-25,
[57:38] Riverdale senior citizen agreement.
[57:42] An agreement put together with Riverdale
[57:44] now on our
[57:45] uh senior citizens
[57:47] being able to go down and use our
[57:49] facility.
[57:50] And just need to pass that agreement.
[57:54] Anyone have any questions on that? If
[57:55] not, we'll look for a motion to approve
[57:58] this.
[58:00] » So, just quick question. This looks like
[58:02] we initially put um do a $300 and then
[58:05] they just tally that difference up to us
[58:07] and we pay it within
[58:09] I'm trying to remember what it said on
[58:10] there.
[58:12] Was it annually or within a year?
[58:14] >> It's annually.
[58:14] >> Annually.
[58:15] >> Okay.
[58:16] >> So, the $300 would essentially cover the
[58:20] current pass members. And then each year
[58:25] they do a a pass blitz essentially in
[58:28] January, first part of February. And so,
[58:31] they'll know basically by February 15th
[58:34] how many citizens of South Weber have
[58:36] taken advantage of the of the offer and
[58:39] they can then tell us exactly what that
[58:41] number is and we'll be able to we'll be
[58:44] able to pay that and then use that as
[58:46] kind of our budget
[58:48] bellwether for the next budget season.
[58:50] >> Okay. Thank you.
[58:52] >> Just one quick question. I thought that
[58:54] we had agreed that we were going to put
[58:55] some sort of
[58:56] cap just in case we saw some huge
[58:59] increase or something like that. Was
[59:01] that not discussed?
[59:02] >> The cap that we had discussed was so
[59:04] much higher than these numbers that it didn't make it in.
[59:09] Are you still interested in that? Cuz
[59:11] >> Well, I just I guess I was thinking of
[59:12] it from a protection perspective, but if
[59:14] we don't if we feel like the risk is
[59:17] ridiculously low or statistically
[59:20] irrelevant, then maybe I'm overthinking
[59:22] it.
[59:24] >> It's basically $30 per
[59:27] pass member.
[59:29] >> And is that an annual fee?
[59:30] >> Yes, and we currently have 10.
[59:32] >> Okay.
[59:40] » Yeah, yeah, go ahead and make a motion
[59:41] to win.
[59:41] >> All right, I make a motion to approve
[59:43] resolution 2625 Riverdale Senior Center
[59:46] agreement.
[59:47] >> Second.
[59:48] >> And motion second by Councilman Windsor,
[59:51] we'll do real roll call vote starting
[59:53] with Councilman Windsor.
[59:54] >> I.
[59:59] » And motion carries. Thank you.
[1:00:02] Next item resolution 26-26
[1:00:06] audit services agreement.
[1:00:10] Any discussion on this?
[1:00:17] » The admin committee has reviewed the
[1:00:19] options, we have reviewed the selection
[1:00:21] process, and the method to which staff
[1:00:24] went through and concur with staff's
[1:00:26] recommendation.
[1:00:29] From a committee perspective.
[1:00:38] » You want me to repeat that whole thing?
[1:00:43] » From a committee perspective, we
[1:00:45] recommend approval.
[1:00:47] >> Okay.
[1:00:51] » It's too many chips in your ears.
[1:00:55] » Move to approve resolution 2626 for the
[1:00:57] audit services agreement as submitted.
[1:01:00] >> Second.
[1:01:01] >> Okay, motion second by Councilman
[1:01:03] Halverson, we'll do roll call with
[1:01:05] Councilman Halverson.
[1:01:05] >> I.
[1:01:09] >> And motion carries.
[1:01:12] You.
[1:01:14] Next is reports, any new business?
[1:01:17] >> Mayor, I'd like to ask if we could
[1:01:19] schedule with our state leaders
[1:01:24] to have them come in here and speak to
[1:01:26] the council with regards to the state
[1:01:29] legislations and their in active
[1:01:31] inability to make changes to dust and
[1:01:34] dust mitigation in the state. And maybe
[1:01:37] listen and give us some answers as to
[1:01:40] why change can't happen as the citizens
[1:01:42] are continuing to suffer with this dust
[1:01:44] problem. Uh
[1:01:46] Senate leader
[1:01:48] House leader and then our local
[1:01:50] representatives.
[1:01:51] I can make the contact but it probably
[1:01:53] should come from a letterhead from the
[1:01:54] mayor and city manager.
[1:01:57] >> I think we're all more than willing to
[1:01:58] do that.
[1:02:01] >> Let's do it. I love that idea.
[1:02:03] >> I can I can help write the letter if
[1:02:04] you'd like or um
[1:02:06] review it with you but uh
[1:02:08] We I just think we need to get some
[1:02:09] action and right now we're not getting
[1:02:11] any action from the the pit themselves.
[1:02:13] They're not going to do anything unless
[1:02:15] they're compelled to do something. The
[1:02:16] state legislature is afraid to act
[1:02:18] because it's a it's a
[1:02:20] um largest lobby.
[1:02:22] What's that?
[1:02:23] >> Largest lobby.
[1:02:24] >> Uh yeah, largest
[1:02:27] it's it's something they don't want to
[1:02:28] take on but
[1:02:29] we've seen it here. The water's not the
[1:02:31] answer. They don't have enough water and
[1:02:33] they're not going to be compelled to
[1:02:35] enclose or to shelter it unless we get
[1:02:37] legislation to make some changes.
[1:02:40] So that would be my new business if we
[1:02:42] could arrange that.
[1:02:43] >> Okay.
[1:02:45] We can do that.
[1:02:50] » I look forward to that, Wayne. Thank
[1:02:51] you.
[1:02:52] >> Anyone else with new business? Dave, you
[1:02:54] have any new business?
[1:02:56] >> Just reports.
[1:02:58] >> Just to report.
[1:03:00] >> Okay, let's do reports and committee
[1:03:03] assignments.
[1:03:05] Wayne, you want to start with your
[1:03:06] committees?
[1:03:08] >> Uh our committees are standing
[1:03:10] ready to meet and discuss anything Steph
[1:03:13] would like to have discussed at this
[1:03:14] moment.
[1:03:16] We have not had a meeting in the last
[1:03:17] couple weeks.
[1:03:19] >> Jeremy?
[1:03:20] >> Nothing new for me. Thank you.
[1:03:22] >> Bill?
[1:03:25] » I'm with Jeremy, so nothing new. Thanks.
[1:03:28] >> Angie?
[1:03:29] >> Uh happy to report that we have
[1:03:32] um
[1:03:34] met with the train club
[1:03:37] I want to say religiously.
[1:03:39] Is that word?
[1:03:40] We've been very dedicated meeting with
[1:03:41] them and we've come to resolution with
[1:03:43] their contract. So, we have met the
[1:03:45] deadline of June 30th.
[1:03:48] It will come before council in July.
[1:03:50] First meeting in July. It's still on
[1:03:52] schedule for that.
[1:03:53] >> Only Only meeting in July.
[1:03:56] >> First and only, most important in July.
[1:04:00] And that's all I have to report on.
[1:04:01] Shayla
[1:04:02] >> It's fantastic.
[1:04:03] >> It's been great. It's been wonderful.
[1:04:04] >> It's been really good. We appreciate
[1:04:06] >> Very much.
[1:04:08] >> The new leadership there at the train
[1:04:09] club has been great.
[1:04:11] >> Sure. So, um basically we
[1:04:14] I just want everybody to know we have
[1:04:16] had
[1:04:17] no ill feelings in any of these
[1:04:19] meetings. It's been wonderful. So, we've
[1:04:20] been able to move forward and talked
[1:04:24] about the weed
[1:04:26] maintenance responsibilities and how
[1:04:28] really the city's going to take that on
[1:04:30] and they can focus on the tracks. Um the
[1:04:32] safety issues were
[1:04:35] almost all complete last time we met and
[1:04:37] I know they were working on some more
[1:04:38] again. So, I don't have updates on that
[1:04:41] specific item, but they've been really
[1:04:43] good at addressing where
[1:04:45] uh their responsibilities are and how
[1:04:47] they can maintain the safety and the
[1:04:49] city will maintain the property. Um
[1:04:55] A a safety audit checklist every time
[1:04:57] they run their
[1:04:58] um trains. Just different implementing
[1:05:01] different procedures to make sure that
[1:05:02] everybody is on the same page and
[1:05:04] everything is safe and we're moving
[1:05:06] forward. So,
[1:05:10] I don't know. That's what I'm saying.
[1:05:11] They've done several inspections.
[1:05:13] >> red tagged until a reinspection, but
[1:05:15] they're working on those safety audit
[1:05:16] items.
[1:05:21] » That's all I have.
[1:05:23] >> Uh
[1:05:24] municipal utilities met to uh we haven't
[1:05:27] done anything but the public works for
[1:05:29] quite some time, but uh that was one of
[1:05:31] the items we did talk about. If you've
[1:05:33] driven by the retention basin was the
[1:05:36] only thing left as an outstanding item.
[1:05:38] Everything else is pretty well done.
[1:05:39] There's some couple punch list things
[1:05:41] that Mark for warranty has had them do.
[1:05:44] Um sod went in yesterday, I believe, or
[1:05:46] it was this morning.
[1:05:47] >> It's in, yep.
[1:05:48] >> It's in.
[1:05:49] Uh you'll drive by the park strip. It is
[1:05:51] our responsibility, the park strip
[1:05:53] there.
[1:05:54] Um
[1:05:55] but yeah, they did get the sprinklers
[1:05:56] in, grass is in, so they were given a
[1:05:59] deadline of the end of the month, and it
[1:06:01] looks like they're going to meet that.
[1:06:03] So, we also reviewed our other uh
[1:06:06] Keppel facility projects and projects.
[1:06:09] One of the big ones is sidewalks.
[1:06:11] Those of you have seen, I drove around,
[1:06:13] we started on that end of town. They are
[1:06:15] getting done.
[1:06:16] And they're working their way this way
[1:06:18] with a priority list, so.
[1:06:20] >> Awesome.
[1:06:21] >> That's all I have to report.
[1:06:23] >> Thank you, Blair. Shaylee, would you
[1:06:24] like to say anything
[1:06:27] about our uh
[1:06:29] concert in the park coming up in 2 days?
[1:06:32] >> Yeah, we have a concert in the park
[1:06:34] coming up in 2 days.
[1:06:35] >> [laughter]
[1:06:37] >> Uh Jake Witt is returning from last
[1:06:39] year. Uh it starts from at 7:00 and ends
[1:06:41] at 8:30. Celeste has been awesome and
[1:06:44] think she I don't know if she left, but
[1:06:46] she's been awesome marketing for the
[1:06:47] event, so I appreciate her, but uh we
[1:06:50] have two food trucks coming. One is
[1:06:52] a taco truck and one is a gyro truck,
[1:06:55] which we're excited about, and we also
[1:06:56] have bouncy houses, so
[1:06:58] the more the merrier.
[1:07:01] >> Hope everyone comes out.
[1:07:03] Dave.
[1:07:06] >> Couple of things. Uh Mayor mentioned the
[1:07:08] idea of only having one meeting in July.
[1:07:12] We've got a few items scheduled for the
[1:07:14] July 14th meeting, but the way things
[1:07:17] are lining up, we don't have things that
[1:07:20] are lining up for July 28th. So, the
[1:07:23] suggestion is to cancel that meeting
[1:07:25] unless something
[1:07:26] comes up urgent over the next few weeks
[1:07:28] that we would then need to meet, but
[1:07:31] that was the reference there. I want
[1:07:32] that to be a heads-up. The mayor, Brad,
[1:07:35] and I are meeting tomorrow morning with
[1:07:37] representatives from Zion's Bank to do
[1:07:39] our bond rating presentation to Moody's.
[1:07:43] We essentially tell the story of the
[1:07:46] city and our project and what that bond
[1:07:48] refunding is, and then they will tell us
[1:07:51] that we are triple A or whatever. We
[1:07:53] hope that it's the best it can be,
[1:07:55] right? Cuz that will affect our interest
[1:07:58] rate. We should have our
[1:08:01] rating back by July 8th, and then we are
[1:08:03] going to market sell those bonds July
[1:08:06] 23rd. So, that's our schedule for the
[1:08:09] bond refunding at this point. What's
[1:08:10] your current rating?
[1:08:12] So, the rating is based on the actual
[1:08:15] bond at the time. So, the bond is rated,
[1:08:18] not necessarily the city at the whole,
[1:08:19] but it was a double A minus 16 years
[1:08:22] ago.
[1:08:24] Approximately.
[1:08:25] The bonds that we've done since 2010
[1:08:29] have been a negotiated sale, not a
[1:08:30] market sale. So, this will be the first
[1:08:32] market sale since
[1:08:34] 2010 from what I understand.
[1:08:37] And then the last thing that I want to
[1:08:38] report is that our we had 11 volunteers
[1:08:43] respond to our America 250 planning when
[1:08:46] we submitted that to the public.
[1:08:49] Seven of which said that they were
[1:08:50] willing to be part of the planning
[1:08:52] committee, and four said that they'd be
[1:08:53] interested in helping on the day of an
[1:08:55] event or or in other ways. Of those
[1:08:58] seven, four were able to attend our
[1:09:00] first meeting based on schedules and we
[1:09:03] had a really positive meeting Shelley
[1:09:06] myself and and those four volunteers.
[1:09:08] They were excellent had some really
[1:09:10] wonderful ideas.
[1:09:12] We have now focused our attention into
[1:09:15] just a handful like the council directed
[1:09:18] us to
[1:09:19] but there is still some outstanding
[1:09:21] concepts that we need to
[1:09:24] get together and kind of flush out.
[1:09:27] I don't necessarily want to publish what
[1:09:29] the plans are cuz they're still very
[1:09:31] early but there's some really cool
[1:09:33] things that that I think the community
[1:09:36] can get excited about in terms of our
[1:09:39] celebration of America 250 and and so
[1:09:42] just look for those details as as we
[1:09:45] publish them and as we get them out
[1:09:46] there.
[1:09:47] We do recognize that July 4th is is the
[1:09:50] actual 250 of the Declaration of
[1:09:52] Independence and our timeline is such
[1:09:54] where we're not necessarily focusing
[1:09:56] right around that day. It's more of the
[1:09:59] year long celebration and and the last 6
[1:10:02] months of the year. We do recognize that
[1:10:04] September is always Constitution month
[1:10:07] and so we think that we can we can
[1:10:09] utilize September a little bit more with
[1:10:11] Constitution month
[1:10:13] as well as hoping to piggyback off of
[1:10:16] the gatherings that take place with
[1:10:18] Country Fair Days. So again some really good progress was made by that
[1:10:23] and and I appreciate the idea from the
[1:10:25] council to get a to get a volunteer
[1:10:28] group together that the energy there was
[1:10:31] really really neat and people that have
[1:10:33] some some really cool
[1:10:36] connections and history with you
[1:10:38] American founding and things like that.
[1:10:40] So I hope that that comes out over the
[1:10:41] next 6 months amongst the community
[1:10:43] because
[1:10:45] I felt that on Thursday morning and it was really cool very patriotic
[1:10:48] for me. So I appreciate that.
[1:10:52] Yes.
[1:10:53] Yeah.
[1:10:58] So I
[1:10:59] over promised saying we could hang the
[1:11:01] flags on the overpass cuz they'd have to
[1:11:03] be manned.
[1:11:04] And the wind will blow them up onto the
[1:11:06] road.
[1:11:07] However, we've been working on solutions
[1:11:10] and I met with
[1:11:12] General RV and Maverick and both of
[1:11:14] agreed to let us hang our flags from
[1:11:16] their signs
[1:11:17] for the 4th of July.
[1:11:19] And so, I'll be working out the
[1:11:21] logistics on that, but just wanted to
[1:11:22] give you that update that we we're not
[1:11:24] doing the overpass thing, but we're
[1:11:25] going to work with Maverick and General
[1:11:27] RV to get our flags up onto their signs.
[1:11:29] So,
[1:11:29] >> All right.
[1:11:30] >> Thanks, Bernie.
[1:11:31] >> Thank you.
[1:11:35] » All for me.
[1:11:36] >> Are you finished, Dave?
[1:11:37] >> Yep.
[1:11:40] » We have Mark I forgot to mention that
[1:11:42] we've got Mark Bell sitting in for Jamie
[1:11:44] this evening. We appreciate him coming
[1:11:45] up and being part of our council
[1:11:48] tonight. Thank you for coming.
[1:11:51] Uh
[1:11:52] with that, we'll look for a motion to
[1:11:53] adjourn.
[1:11:54] >> Motion
[1:11:56] >> Seconded.
[1:11:57] >> All in favor, say I.
[1:11:58] >> I.