1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:03,840 Yeah. 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,440 >> I mean there's trucks that go down this 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,280 road and disappear and then come back up 4 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:33,750 this road. 5 00:00:33,760 --> 00:05:25,830 The whole character of the road 6 00:05:25,840 --> 00:05:27,280 » Some comments for you. 7 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:29,760 >> It was so exciting. 8 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,360 >> It looks well. 9 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,919 >> Think about what I'm saying. 10 00:05:33,919 --> 00:05:36,240 Okay. Okay. 11 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:37,680 >> Boy. 12 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:38,240 >> Hey. 13 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:39,880 >> That's all right. 14 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,960 What does it tell you though? 15 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:42,520 >> Uh 16 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:43,960 okay. 17 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,640 >> That's something we can put 18 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,280 on your side of the door above. It's 19 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:48,680 kind of uh 20 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:53,950 working the old school 21 00:05:53,960 --> 00:06:03,750 » Okay. 22 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:05,360 » We froze them in the pickle just to 23 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,000 spare 24 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:06,804 >> Well, 25 00:06:06,804 --> 00:06:19,470 >> [laughter] 26 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,560 » That is what they did, yeah. 27 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:58,190 That is true. 28 00:06:58,200 --> 00:06:59,080 Okay. 29 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:09,670 Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah. 30 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:11,080 Uh-huh. 31 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,960 Yeah. 32 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,240 She has a lot of things in her 33 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,550 collection 34 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:21,919 But 35 00:07:21,919 --> 00:07:22,960 Okay. 36 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:23,840 The one 37 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:25,919 I got to be 20 minutes 38 00:07:25,919 --> 00:07:27,560 Oh. Okay. 39 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:34,670 Thank you. 40 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,080 Just like 41 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,510 Yeah. 42 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,150 So, 43 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:44,640 I'm going to 44 00:07:44,640 --> 00:08:04,695 All right. 45 00:08:04,705 --> 00:08:08,030 » [laughter] 46 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:32,790 » Okay. 47 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:34,520 No, I think that's great. I appreciate 48 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:35,479 that. 49 00:08:35,479 --> 00:08:38,230 Oh, thank you. 50 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:52,510 too, and I thank 51 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:58,870 Oh, no. Okay. 52 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:26,150 Oh, dear. Okay. 53 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:39,150 Wow, that's fabulous. 54 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:46,310 I started here. 55 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:54,670 » What is your name? 56 00:09:54,680 --> 00:10:00,110 » Okay, I left that about 4 57 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,910 Okay. 58 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:07,270 Oh, Jesus Christ. Personally 59 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,150 I 60 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,120 Pay my pay day. 61 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,760 I could actually go in and talk to you 62 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:32,270 all the time all the time I got 63 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,280 Oh. 64 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,270 he's out 65 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:42,910 Yeah, that's not how it 66 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:48,240 Oh. I can't go out and get that cuz I can buy some I've been buying some 67 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:49,320 like this. 68 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:54,829 I got my whistle sign up. 69 00:10:54,839 --> 00:11:12,550 He needed us 70 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:15,200 Because it's hard to get Oh, it's too 71 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,120 ugly for me to fly my way. 72 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,550 Yeah, I know. That's just the 73 00:11:21,560 --> 00:11:22,960 In fact, 74 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,160 Army 75 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,280 I should take it over to the website. 76 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,760 I'm going to study law and stuff. 77 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:30,480 Army 78 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,280 You can care of Rotary different way. 79 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:49,590 Your force should be 25. 80 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:51,400 » Uh-oh, 81 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:55,870 we're in trouble now. 82 00:11:55,880 --> 00:12:20,430 Oh, we're saved. 83 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:25,150 » I think so, but I'll ask. 84 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,080 » I am burned out. 85 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:27,960 >> Okay. 86 00:12:27,960 --> 00:12:28,800 >> You got a burn barrel? 87 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,160 >> Yeah. 88 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:31,760 >> I don't know what I'm going to do now. 89 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:32,720 Okay. 90 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:34,560 I mean, you can have some recreation's 91 00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:35,480 tires. 92 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:36,400 >> No, burn barrel? 93 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,143 >> In a barrel? 94 00:12:39,153 --> 00:12:40,320 » [laughter] 95 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:41,880 >> Make it a religious function and you can 96 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,080 do whatever you want. 97 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,200 >> Sometimes they say if you're just have 98 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,400 some marshmallows out there. 99 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:48,920 Throw the bag in the pasture. 100 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,040 >> Put up the lawn chair and get out a 101 00:12:51,040 --> 00:12:52,520 package of hot dogs and you can do 102 00:12:52,520 --> 00:13:11,550 whatever you want. 103 00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:13,640 » Yeah, you do. 104 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,200 >> Um, why is it moving? 105 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:16,960 >> They're 106 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,120 sick. They're sick. 107 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,040 >> Likely story. 108 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:23,400 No, I'm not. 109 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,520 I love you. 110 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,870 I'm good. 111 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:29,640 Is it hot in 112 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,480 >> here? Please tell me someone else is 113 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:32,600 hot. Turn the AC on. 114 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:38,280 >> It's right on the verge. 115 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:47,630 >> Something I agree on right now is that 116 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,030 » Well, if you do that, 117 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,910 » It is. 118 00:13:53,920 --> 00:14:02,430 Oh my gosh, I'm here. 119 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,080 Around the corner from my favorite 120 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:14,830 sister. 121 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:24,110 » We good? 122 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,550 Did you get it? 123 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,040 for Jim. 124 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:30,480 You have a new password? 125 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:40,350 >> Yeah. 126 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,880 » I got a South Weber Fire Department cap 127 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:46,000 that I don't feel good wearing around 128 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,320 anywhere. 129 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:48,000 So, 130 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,800 >> If you want that back, it's pretty much 131 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,080 unused. 132 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,120 >> Why don't you feel good? 133 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,280 >> You know, I just cuz I'm having I have a 134 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:56,720 fire department hat. I don't work on the 135 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,320 fire department. I'm not risking my life 136 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:06,470 going into these buildings. 137 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,600 Okay. 138 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,400 Let's begin, shall we? 139 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:12,839 I'd like to welcome everyone to South 140 00:15:12,839 --> 00:15:14,680 Weber City Council. 141 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:17,160 It is 6:00 p.m. on Tuesday, July the 142 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,920 14th, 2026. 143 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:22,120 We'll begin with a pledge of allegiance 144 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,160 by council member Deals and then we'll 145 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,920 have a prayer by council member Davis. 146 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,400 >> Please stand and repeat the pledge of 147 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,040 allegiance. 148 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:34,080 >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the 149 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,840 United States of America and to the 150 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,240 republic for which it stands, one nation 151 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,640 under God, indivisible, with liberty and 152 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:52,670 justice for all. 153 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:53,880 » Our Father in heaven, we're grateful to 154 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,320 be here 155 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,000 this evening together as citizens of 156 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:58,760 this great city to 157 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,720 discuss the needs of the day. We are 158 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,320 hopeful that thy spirit may be here with 159 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:04,840 us that we may 160 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,880 treat each other with respect and 161 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:08,560 dignity and that we'll be able to come 162 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:09,680 to 163 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,480 appropriate conclusions that will help 164 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,280 our city continue to be strong and and 165 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,480 move forward. 166 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,880 We are grateful for for thee for these 167 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,440 opportunities we have to come together 168 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:20,400 to 169 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,800 discuss important topics and and to help 170 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,760 this great city continue to be 171 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:29,400 a great city. 172 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,880 We are grateful also for all those who 173 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,560 serve in our city, for firemen, for the 174 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:36,760 policemen, 175 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,040 and for all their volunteers that 176 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,200 support the function of 177 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,120 the city. And we pray that thy spirit 178 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,160 may be with them, they may be kept safe 179 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,240 from harm and danger. And these blessings we pray 180 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:49,320 for in the name of thy son, Jesus 181 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:50,440 Christ. Amen. 182 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,080 >> Amen. 183 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,320 Okay, thank you councilman Deals and 184 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,400 Davis. We appreciate that very much. The 185 00:16:57,400 --> 00:16:59,960 first item on our agenda then will be 186 00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:02,040 public comments. If anyone has comments, 187 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,920 we'd ask that you come up 188 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:05,520 to the microphone, state your name and 189 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,079 city in which you reside. We'll allow 190 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:09,120 you 3 minutes to speak and please be 191 00:17:09,120 --> 00:17:11,400 respectful. 192 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:12,800 Anybody have 193 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,760 comments? 194 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,760 Seeing no comments, then we'll move 195 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:18,800 along the agenda here. 196 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,160 Uh we had 197 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,400 a presentation by Davis County Sheriff 198 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,280 for their quarterly report and we 199 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:26,520 received a 200 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,840 call just recently saying that uh 201 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,080 they are 202 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,240 uh not able to attend tonight and we've 203 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,480 moved that to August. So, 204 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,360 we'll have their report in August. 205 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:41,560 So, next item is our consent agenda 206 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,520 consisting of June 23rd, 2026 minutes, 207 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,160 June's checks, 208 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,520 May's budget to actual. 209 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,320 Is there any changes, corrections, or 210 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,200 discussion we need to have on any of 211 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,000 these items? 212 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,320 If none, then we'll ask for a motion. Go 213 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:58,720 ahead. 214 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,520 >> I actually have a question. Um 215 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,720 Actually, like I don't ever 216 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,280 um 217 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:04,960 uh 218 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,520 quick question on I was looking on the 219 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,000 uh engineering 220 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,800 um costs and some of the checks that 221 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,760 were going through for I think it was 222 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:14,520 like $42,000. 223 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:15,400 Um 224 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:15,640 >> Mhm. 225 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,200 >> Most of that is what we pay to Jones and 226 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:20,720 Associates, but of course part of that 227 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:22,440 is also your pay-through account or the 228 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,720 just the pass-through account. Um one 229 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,920 thing I I was looking at though and 230 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,440 uh when we 231 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,240 ask for preliminary drawings 232 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,320 uh from the developers, 233 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:37,920 um 234 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,400 that 235 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,400 is one in which uh Jones and Associates 236 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,800 charges them a certain amount of money. 237 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:46,520 And if 238 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,480 they go forward, 239 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:49,800 then 240 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:51,800 we put that into the escrow and I I 241 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,080 believe that would be some of the costs 242 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:56,280 that would be recouped, 243 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,240 but with the numbers, it doesn't really 244 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:02,480 show it. The it seems more like um 245 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:03,880 like we ought to be putting that escrow 246 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,920 earlier or we should make sure that that 247 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:06,640 goes 248 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,280 it's only a couple hundred bucks. I 249 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,160 mean, it's not a huge thing. I I the 250 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,440 whole total for this uh 251 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,600 sheet was 600 and something, $630. 252 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,920 Um 253 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,880 is that is is that something that we 254 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,360 could look into on when we 255 00:19:22,360 --> 00:19:24,200 um because I don't think that we should 256 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,640 be uh charging 257 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,520 uh them and not get or 258 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,000 I don't think Jones should be charging 259 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,760 them and that not be a pass-through cuz 260 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,440 that is definitely a cost for the 261 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,230 developers. 262 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,880 » So, what what is your question? 263 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:41,960 Out of out of that 264 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:45,120 >> And we move either the requirement for 265 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:46,360 the 266 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:48,440 um escrow account in which they would 267 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:50,960 have to be putting money into it to 268 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,040 uh or part of the pass-through account, 269 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,320 maybe I should say. 270 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:55,160 >> Can I Can I ask you 271 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:55,920 >> Yeah. 272 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,280 >> cuz I'm just trying to follow it. 273 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:58,160 >> Yeah. 274 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,120 >> Cuz when we ask for a preliminary 275 00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:01,440 drawings 276 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:02,880 Jones and Associates aren't the ones 277 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,640 that do those drawings. 278 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,440 >> But they're charging us a fee. 279 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:07,640 >> a review fee. 280 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:08,800 >> Right. 281 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:09,440 >> And 282 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:10,000 >> Shouldn't that 283 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,200 >> That is pass-through. 284 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,360 to a developer that 285 00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:14,600 they just goes to them and they have to 286 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:15,240 pay it. 287 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,080 >> And see, that's what I thought, but um 288 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,400 the account numbers I I I can show you 289 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,000 later so we don't bog the meeting down 290 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,520 here, but um 291 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,760 that amount isn't coming back. Uh we're 292 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,560 not recouping that from them, at least 293 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:31,040 go through that same account number. 294 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:34,360 >> So, are are you looking at the 295 00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:36,840 cuz we we recoup it through the revenues 296 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,760 in the revenue section where the expense 297 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,960 is on the expenditure side. So, you 298 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,040 won't see 299 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:43,440 >> But what in 300 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,520 >> coming in and out of one account. It'll 301 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:47,320 be coming It'll be coming in on the 302 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:49,720 revenue account and going out as an 303 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:51,320 expense on on the expense 304 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,080 >> as part of those um pass-through 305 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:54,600 >> Yes. 306 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:55,720 >> account numbers though, right? 307 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,520 >> But there but there's a revenue pass-through account 308 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,240 and then there's an expense 309 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:01,480 >> Okay. 310 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,320 >> account that that tracks the expenses 311 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,720 and so we know if we're getting It's not one account that you can look 312 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,160 at and compare those two. You have to 313 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,720 compare a revenue account and expense 314 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:14,000 account. 315 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,160 >> Right. 316 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:16,840 Yeah, that's that's what we're doing and 317 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,320 that's how I came up with the number. 318 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,400 Let's 319 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,080 >> The question is about I mean of is if 320 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:26,320 the engineer is doing any work that 321 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,320 isn't getting reimbursed. That's what we 322 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,960 want to look at and confirm that 323 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,360 the timing of that and and what actions 324 00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:36,080 take place before and after. 325 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:36,800 >> It's not a big deal. 326 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,120 >> Yeah, we can double check that and make 327 00:21:38,120 --> 00:21:39,480 sure 328 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,400 >> We can we can look at it. We do we 329 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:43,800 typically 330 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,120 don't get the revenue the same time that 331 00:21:46,120 --> 00:21:48,480 we get the expenses. We'll send out the 332 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:49,840 invoice saying, "Okay, this is what you 333 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,640 owe us for this work." And it can take 334 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:57,560 anywhere between a day to 30, 60 days depending on how quick 335 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,720 the 336 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,040 developer turns around and 337 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,840 >> Could they have been 338 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,120 um no, cuz it was cap and 339 00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:07,040 um anyways 340 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,800 we'll talk. 341 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,120 Yeah, I just want to make sure that it's 342 00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:12,360 >> Mhm. 343 00:22:12,360 --> 00:22:14,240 >> No, that's a fair question and and we 344 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,040 want to make sure that the reimbursement 345 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,440 process is is efficient and also 346 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,520 covering everything. So I know 347 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,240 internally we have had conversation 348 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:27,240 about whether or not it makes sense to change the methodology 349 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,440 um so that developers aren't getting an 350 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,320 individual bill over and over and over 351 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,880 and don't really have an understanding 352 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,080 of kind of the upfront cost and and what 353 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,360 that may or may not be. Right now our 354 00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:41,360 consolidated fee schedule just says, you 355 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:43,320 know, any other costs associated with 356 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,920 that um and so we we have talked 357 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,200 internally about whether we should 358 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,920 adjust that. Maybe this is a good time 359 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,240 to just review the the full process and 360 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,680 make sure that we've got things covered 361 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:53,640 the right way. 362 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:54,560 >> Okay. 363 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,560 Thanks. Sorry to interrupt. 364 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,510 >> Anything else? 365 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,520 » Anyone else? I'll look for a motion 366 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:02,240 know, on this. 367 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,280 >> Move to approve the consent agenda. 368 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:06,560 >> Second. 369 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,240 >> You have a motion and a second. All in 370 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:10,360 favor say I. 371 00:23:10,360 --> 00:23:13,910 >> I. I. I. 372 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,320 » Next item, resolution 26-27 South Weber 373 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:22,200 Model Railroad Club agreement. 374 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,560 Any discussions on this? 375 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,800 Angie, have you got anything you want to 376 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,200 necessarily bring up? 377 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:30,800 >> Sure. 378 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,440 >> Um I feel like some key points to note 379 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,720 and if I miss any, Mayor and Dave, if 380 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,320 you want to just help me make sure I 381 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,160 remembered them all. Um key points is 382 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:41,880 that they would be running two Saturdays 383 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,400 a month, April 384 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,600 we said April, right? April through 385 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:47,960 October. 386 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,720 Um they would like to also do one 387 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,440 weekday a month, but we didn't put that 388 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,280 in the agreement yet, but they would 389 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,560 like to start doing that for the public. 390 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:02,600 Um they will be responsible for all of 391 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,200 the equipment on the ground and the 392 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,920 city's will be responsible for 393 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,240 weed um weed control and maintenance of 394 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,480 the park as they're doing right now in 395 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,870 the rest of the park. 396 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,560 We also added um a couple of addendas I 397 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,880 hope you saw on there in the 398 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,480 um 399 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,240 packet where they have a safety 400 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:26,680 checklist they have to complete every 401 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,040 time they run a train so they make sure 402 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,000 everything's safe. Um we have [sighs] 403 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,560 Sorry, let me just make sure what else 404 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:34,320 is in here. 405 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:35,520 >> The lease amount. 406 00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:37,600 Oh, and a project 407 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,200 request form. So if there's something 408 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,320 that they want to do, they can submit 409 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,800 that and then the committee can review 410 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:44,720 it and then they can bring it to 411 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,040 council. So it's actually like a 412 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,640 procedure that needs to be followed so 413 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,640 we have like a paper trail and all of 414 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:51,560 that. 415 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,080 Am I missing anything else that we've 416 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,240 changed from our last one? 417 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,080 >> Anything else that can remember, Dave? 418 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,040 >> No, I think that's a good summary. I 419 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,800 think that there has been a a great 420 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:03,720 conversation and process to this point 421 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,040 after the last city council meeting. The 422 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,520 committee and the club have worked well 423 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,720 together and have tried to find kind of 424 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,320 compromise and and a thought process, a 425 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:17,640 mindset of this is where we're at today. 426 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:18,960 How do we move forward and make it the 427 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,320 best it can be. We we did not have too 428 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,000 many conversations about, if at all, 429 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,040 about uh the past. We we did try to 430 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,080 learn from the past and bring up lessons 431 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,680 that that we'd like to incorporate 432 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,160 moving forward and ways we'd like to 433 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:33,600 operate better 434 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,320 in tandem. And and the club has given 435 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,200 some and I think the city has given some 436 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,480 in an effort to make this uh viable and 437 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,360 productive moving forward. So, some of 438 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:47,080 much of the agreement looks similar. We 439 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,560 did reorganize a little bit to make it 440 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,320 more readable, a little bit cleaner with 441 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,560 sections that they clearly identify club 442 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,120 responsibilities, city responsibilities, 443 00:25:57,120 --> 00:25:59,600 and what is included in both of those. 444 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,680 And And our hope is that moving forward 445 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,240 we'll be able to, you know, make this 446 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,240 great for the public and for the club 447 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,760 members as well. 448 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,880 >> Yeah. Question. 449 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,480 Um 450 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,280 some question on the public is the $200 451 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,680 for lease fee was kind of low. Wasn't 452 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:19,440 there some additions on the city's 453 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,880 behalf in lieu of fee that the city's 454 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,480 receiving like additional run days and 455 00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,600 things of that nature? Angie. 456 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:27,400 >> Yeah. And she was 457 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,160 >> that was in lieu of a few 458 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:29,840 sessions. 459 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,840 >> yes, originally the contract was one day 460 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,120 one Saturday per month. And now we've 461 00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:36,560 increased that to two Saturdays per 462 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,760 month. 463 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,160 >> Wasn't there something also in addition 464 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,240 that the city can specify days just for 465 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,680 the city to run 466 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:46,280 for the city residents? 467 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,760 >> So, those would be for just open run 468 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,920 days for citizens and visitors, right? 469 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,360 They but the train club actually offered 470 00:26:54,360 --> 00:26:56,280 to do it during the weekday, which is 471 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:59,120 great I think to add that out. Um, they 472 00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:00,560 just didn't put in the con- We didn't 473 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:01,920 put in the contract yet just to make 474 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,400 sure that they had enough staffing. We 475 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,040 didn't want to put that in without them 476 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,040 being able to talk to us the to the rest 477 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:10,720 of the train club members. Um, 478 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,160 so those have been some concessions that 479 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,960 they have made on there. And just a 480 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,040 reminder, the original agreement 481 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,040 the city was doing all the weed control. 482 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,920 And then there had been discussions 483 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,200 between the city and the train club 484 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,840 about, you know, damaged rails. And so 485 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:29,600 that's why 486 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,280 damaged rails during 487 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,720 um, mowing and such. So that's why it 488 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,000 was sent back to the train club. Uh, 489 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,800 we've had really good discussions about 490 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,560 that. And so that's why we're bringing 491 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,120 the weed control back since we have the 492 00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:44,120 staff to go ahead and do that. And they 493 00:27:44,120 --> 00:27:47,920 can focus on providing the amenity. 494 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,040 What else can I answer for you? 495 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:51,920 >> Sorry, I just thought there was 496 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:53,400 something I read in the contract that 497 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,680 the city 498 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,840 there was there was an option for the 499 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,880 city to request certain days that they 500 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,400 run just for city events. 501 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:01,440 >> Oh, absolutely. Yeah. 502 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,960 >> was in concessions in lieu of additional 503 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,760 monies for them to use the track the 504 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,360 $200 that they offered to do a special 505 00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:09,560 run days 506 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,400 for days to be picked by the city. And 507 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,600 >> So yeah, that could be country fair 508 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,400 days. That could be any other event that 509 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,440 the city says we'd like you to do that. 510 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:19,760 >> argument that I'm hearing that there was 511 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,880 $200 is cheap. It is cheap, but they're 512 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,320 also doing other things in lieu of 513 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,400 dollars. And that's what I wanted to 514 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:25,920 bring out. 515 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:26,840 >> Sure. Yeah. 516 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:27,680 >> Good point. 517 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,200 >> Thank you. 518 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,320 >> Joe? 519 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,040 Just a couple questions. Um, 520 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,920 then was this originally a 60-day and 521 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,720 then we turned it down to 30-day? 522 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,720 Or is that something that we did? 523 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,560 >> As far as the potential like termination 524 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,360 of the agreement language, it was uh, 525 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,560 60-day notice and 90 days. That was that 526 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,880 was shrunk down to a 30 day notice and 527 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,720 60 days to then remove. 528 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,080 >> Okay, so it got to that point. Okay, so 529 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:56,920 it still has the removal of that. Yeah. 530 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,640 I 531 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,640 noticed in there we talk about dispute 532 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,360 resolution. 533 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,240 Who and through how how's that supposed 534 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:08,960 to be handled? 535 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,120 Or is that something we're going to 536 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,280 approach on a 537 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,480 one-by-one basis? 538 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,000 Case-by-case. Thank you. 539 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,040 >> Which section is that? Can you remind 540 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:20,960 me? 541 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,000 >> No, I just put the bare notes on here. 542 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,790 It talks about 543 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,280 If a dispute 544 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,160 I believe it was in the 545 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:38,120 um 546 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,400 safety 547 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,240 where it's talking about the 548 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,000 um 549 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,640 city manager has the ability to do stop 550 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,880 it. um 551 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:50,440 I should have written down the appendix 552 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,030 that that was in. I apologize. 553 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,760 » Well, it's okay. I'm just trying to look 554 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:56,800 through all of your 555 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:58,400 >> execution of agreements 556 00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,680 which country 557 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,760 agreement course 558 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,200 >> changes that might be needed 559 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,680 >> Well, the changes changes I have another 560 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,920 one cuz it actually says that the city 561 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,280 manager can deny it. 562 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,960 And then it later says so if there's any 563 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,960 change or anything added 564 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,480 any projects the city manager can deny 565 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,880 it but then down on like the next line 566 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,800 it says that those changes come to the 567 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,680 city council. So is it that 568 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,480 it can stop with the city council stop 569 00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:35,360 with the city manager and then go to it? 570 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:35,720 I'm 571 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:36,920 >> Well, I 572 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,240 if there's a safety concern city staff 573 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,200 would be the ones that would say, you 574 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,360 know, we need to stop. And then it would 575 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,160 come to council for us to consider any 576 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,960 type of action after that. 577 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,360 >> Okay. So, 578 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,160 uh basically, city manager can veto it 579 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,920 for it not being good enough, it's not 580 00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,400 put together, it's not safe, or anything 581 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,960 like that. So, that way we just don't 582 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,720 get every change coming up to the city 583 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:01,520 council, right? 584 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:02,840 >> Well, well, yeah. It would be similar to 585 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,320 how it was earlier where it was like, 586 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,800 "Hey, there's a situation. We need to 587 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,920 stop for a minute so we can evaluate 588 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,040 it." That wouldn't That process wouldn't 589 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,480 really change from what it currently is. 590 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,550 >> Um 591 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,640 The audit section talks about providing 592 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,840 acknowledgement of receipt project for 593 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,600 uh 594 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,520 any of the plans that they have 595 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:32,590 for fixing safety items. The 596 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,480 proposed modification section talks 597 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,760 about submitting to the city manager the 598 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,240 request form for modification with ex- 599 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,000 explanation of why, any documentation, 600 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,320 and whatnot. That that then is reviewed, 601 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,000 and the city council has to approve 602 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:59,870 the modifications. 603 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:01,520 Okay. 604 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,030 Um 605 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:05,960 Yeah, I should I 606 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,640 >> I think I think Dave's right. He's 607 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,000 addressing section 3.10 audits. 608 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:15,430 Um this Let's see. 609 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,720 Talks about safety audits, and the 610 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,560 second paragraph says that the city 611 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:20,520 manager of the club shall provide 612 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:21,840 manager with an acknowledgement of 613 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,640 receipt 614 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,200 to resolve identified action items. 615 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,320 >> There's one other section that has a 616 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,760 similar remedy provision. So, the 617 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,680 principle in both the audit section, and 618 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,200 then it's in 619 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:37,480 uh 620 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,800 Let's see. It's the default section, 621 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,840 which is section 11. 622 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,680 Notice of default and then fine or 623 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,080 abatement. And both of them essentially 624 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,640 operate on the same principle that the 625 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,600 city provides notice. They have a cure 626 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,480 period. If they don't cure, then you can 627 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:53,960 roll into 628 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,680 either fine abatement or default of the 629 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,230 agreement. 630 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:05,360 Okay. 631 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,670 >> Um 632 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,000 I don't know what I was talking about. 633 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,720 >> Is that Is that Is that satisfactory? 634 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,920 Do you feel okay with that procedure? 635 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,560 Are there questions you have about that? 636 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,080 >> Yeah. Um I think I'll I'll be quite 637 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,360 honest. I'm so excited for this. I am 638 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,880 very very happy. I think you guys have 639 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,400 done a fantastic job and the club has 640 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:30,800 done a fantastic job. I'm so glad that we get to keep this and do this and 641 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,520 I think it's been a win-win for for 642 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:33,680 both. 643 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,160 Um and yeah, I 644 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,200 I'm very excited about it. Um I was just 645 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:49,790 trying to see on that um 646 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:50,920 Yeah. 647 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,160 I'll have to go back and look, but it 648 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,320 won't matter at that time, I don't 649 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:53,360 think. 650 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,840 >> If If you have questions, just come back 651 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:55,280 and 652 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:55,720 >> Yeah. 653 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,120 >> let me know anything that you have on 654 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,640 there cuz we have worked hard. We've had 655 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,480 very harmonious discussions. It's been 656 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:01,640 really great. So 657 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:02,240 >> I'm good. 658 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,840 >> not contentious in any way and I'm I am 659 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,400 excited to move forward. So 660 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,520 >> Yeah. This has been great. I I'm again, 661 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,720 I'm very grateful for you guys. 662 00:34:09,720 --> 00:34:10,639 >> It's been really good. 663 00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:10,919 >> So 664 00:34:10,919 --> 00:34:12,360 >> I will add from a city staff 665 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,360 perspective, this is a major shift in 666 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:17,800 the way that city staff has interacted 667 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,399 with the club in the past. And the the 668 00:34:20,399 --> 00:34:23,080 agreement before essentially had the 669 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,960 city staff as kind of the enforcement 670 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,280 arm and a regulatory agency, where this 671 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,240 changes that mindset and has city staff 672 00:34:33,240 --> 00:34:35,879 a little bit more as a partnership and 673 00:34:35,879 --> 00:34:39,840 the ability for staff to feel like we 674 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,840 care a little bit more about the success 675 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,960 of the train club. I don't want to say 676 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,480 that in a in a negative way, but it 677 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,320 frees us a little bit as staff. Also put 678 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,000 some additional burden I would say with 679 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,399 the weed maintenance and whatnot. 680 00:34:52,399 --> 00:34:54,360 There's a timing element, but 681 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,760 the city council has directed us to to 682 00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,120 put more resource into this and to take 683 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,000 care about it differently and and this 684 00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,040 agreement is a result of that and shows 685 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,040 that 686 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,000 commitment from the staff side from a 687 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,280 time and a caring standpoint and and I 688 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,120 hope that we can see that result. 689 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:12,840 >> Agreed. 690 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,560 >> Thank you. And I would say this we have 691 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,960 come very far since our first agreement 692 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:17,680 on Claire. 693 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:18,880 >> You have done very good job. 694 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,440 >> Thank you. 695 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:21,920 Thanks everybody. I have one other thing 696 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,680 though I want to bring up to the rest of 697 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,560 the council. If the council would like 698 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,280 we can ask 699 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,520 our park staff just to monitor the 700 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:34,560 amount of extra time and 701 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,720 materials to maintain this so we can 702 00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:38,560 kind of get the best 703 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,000 estimate of what this is going to cost 704 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,720 our the city to maintain the weeds and 705 00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:47,750 such, but it shouldn't be significant. 706 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,760 A significant investment of what we're 707 00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,840 doing right now. 708 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:52,800 Over what we're doing now. Does that 709 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,360 make sense? Wayne you're looking like 710 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:55,520 I'm not making sense. 711 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:56,760 >> No, it makes sense. It's just why we 712 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,600 want to why we want to put emphasis on 713 00:35:58,600 --> 00:35:58,880 it. 714 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,240 >> Okay. I'm I'm just asking. 715 00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:03,800 >> just like a pickleball court or baseball 716 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,080 court. It's a park facility at that 717 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,920 particular park and there's a cost 718 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,680 associated with maintaining it. It by 719 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,960 highlighting that it draws attention to 720 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,240 it for what purpose? 721 00:36:13,240 --> 00:36:14,920 >> Okay, thank you. I know I agree. I just 722 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,200 wanted to make sure we had discussed 723 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,680 costs before so I wanted to make sure 724 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,520 everybody was on the same page. 725 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,600 Cool. Mayor I make a motion we approve 726 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,120 resolution 2627 South Weber Model 727 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,400 Railroad Club agreement. 728 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,600 >> I second that. 729 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,640 >> Have a motion second by Councilwoman 730 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,320 Deales. We'll do a roll call vote 731 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,080 starting with Councilman Windsor. 732 00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,560 >> I. 733 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,800 >> Very unanimous. Motion carries. Thank 734 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:38,880 you. 735 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,400 Next resolution 26-28 736 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,400 cooperative agreement with the Utah 737 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,040 Division of Forestry Fire and State 738 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,440 Lands. 739 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,960 Any discussion on this resolution? 740 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,590 Anyone? 741 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:59,710 If not, we'll ask for a motion. 742 00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:00,840 » Mayor, I make a motion to approve 743 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,480 resolution 26-28 cooperative agreement 744 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,320 with the Utah Division of Forestry Fire 745 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:06,600 and State Lands. 746 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,240 >> Second it. 747 00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:09,920 >> Okay, we have a second by Councilman 748 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:11,560 Davis. 749 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,160 We'll do a roll call vote starting with 750 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,320 Councilman Howerton. 751 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:21,750 >> I. 752 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:22,760 » You good, Chief? 753 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,010 >> I'm good. 754 00:37:26,020 --> 00:37:27,600 » [laughter] 755 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,520 >> Next item, 756 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,360 resolution 26-29 757 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,280 Utah Wildfire Resource Memorandum of 758 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,160 Understanding. 759 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,350 Any discussion on this? 760 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:43,160 » Mayor, I make a motion to approve 20 761 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:45,600 resolution 26-29 762 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,120 Utah Wildlife Wildfire Resource 763 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,280 Memorandum Understanding. 764 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,160 >> Second. 765 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,120 >> Okay, most Motion is seconded by 766 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:55,040 Councilwoman 767 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,440 >> Petty. 768 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:57,800 >> We'll do a roll call vote starting with 769 00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:58,760 Councilman Windsor. 770 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:03,040 >> I. 771 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,280 >> Okay, that's unanimous. 772 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:10,400 Next resolution 26-30 773 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,760 amending the policy and procedure 3.040 774 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,760 employment of relation 775 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,640 relatives and nepotism. 776 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,240 Any discussion on this resolution? 777 00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:23,400 >> Um I have a couple questions. 778 00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:24,160 >> Okay. 779 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,160 >> Um, first one, 780 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,240 uh, what is the impetus for this? 781 00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:31,400 >> There have been a couple of uh, 782 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,360 scenarios where 783 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,840 uh, department heads have approached me 784 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:39,240 on hiring situations that uh, 785 00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:41,600 have run directly into the nepotism 786 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,680 policy. And so, 787 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:44,360 um, 788 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,760 we've had internal discussions about uh, 789 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,120 the limitations that it provided to us 790 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:53,960 and some of the restriction. It was very direct and very um, clear 791 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,400 bright line of where that was and so, 792 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,760 um, we tried to follow that. Uh, we have 793 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,200 found that there are some employees 794 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,320 already hired within the within the city 795 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,760 that weren't directly in line with that 796 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,040 policy. 797 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,440 Um, and then running into these 798 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,160 situations um, 799 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,520 multiple times, um, it created a 800 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,760 conversation about is that really the 801 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,680 policy that is that is helping us the 802 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:19,800 best. 803 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,360 Ultimately, there's three different 804 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,280 departments that run into challenges 805 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,120 with hiring related to uh, family 806 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,440 relationships. And And so, we've carved 807 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:32,760 those out specifically recognizing that 808 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,400 we'd like to have in certain 809 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:38,720 circumstances only the ability to to 810 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:42,560 have siblings or or family members be 811 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,000 uh, hired in the city. Not in any type 812 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,000 of supervisory line or anything like 813 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,840 that, but um, specifically within the 814 00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,480 fire department as part-time employees 815 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,680 within the recreation department and 816 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,760 within our crossing guards. Um, 817 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,400 recreation and fire Sorry, recreation 818 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,760 and um, crossing guards because of the 819 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,720 nature of those positions, we're not 820 00:40:05,720 --> 00:40:09,040 really hiring from outside the city. And 821 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:09,840 uh, 822 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,560 and so, it creates a limited pool for us 823 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,880 um, which has created challenges in the 824 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,440 past. So, this would free that up and 825 00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,040 open that up for us. 826 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:19,680 Um we have some examples, like I said, 827 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,280 within the city where we already have uh 828 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,120 family relations working in the same 829 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,720 department, crossing guards and 830 00:40:26,720 --> 00:40:32,160 recreation that are doing just fine and have not created any problems. And 831 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,160 so, we talked about this as a leadership 832 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,400 council within staff um department heads 833 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,480 and uh and feel comfortable that uh 834 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,520 putting it on paper this way still 835 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,480 protects the city from any type of, you 836 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,000 know, favoritism actions um and things 837 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,480 like that. That that's really what we're 838 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,760 trying to protect here. Um but freeing 839 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,200 up and opening um some of those options 840 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,680 for us and and making it so those 841 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:56,400 challenges might not be as difficult to 842 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,240 overcome. 843 00:40:57,240 --> 00:41:00,320 >> So, if I'm understanding you correctly, 844 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:05,400 um this new policy does not allow for a 845 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,800 um relative 846 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,520 of the supervisor position, 847 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,120 supervisory positions, um to have one of 848 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,960 their relatives hired beneath them. 849 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:17,720 >> True. 850 00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:18,600 >> Okay. 851 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,680 Um 852 00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,360 does that mean then that we're really 853 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,280 talking about uh 854 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:28,000 family familial relationships just at 855 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,560 basically same level type of thing. So, 856 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,720 uh like for recreation, we had hired, 857 00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:34,520 you know, so-and-so's brother to also 858 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:37,400 work at the FAC or things like that. 859 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:38,080 >> Yes. 860 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,440 >> And that's the same way we're looking at 861 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:40,960 the fire department, correct? 862 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:41,560 >> Yes. 863 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,800 >> Okay. Um 864 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,120 the 865 00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,280 uh this came up at um Zion's 866 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:49,520 quite often. 867 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,120 Um 868 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,160 if there's any 869 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:55,720 relationship 870 00:41:55,720 --> 00:41:56,920 um 871 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:00,000 when you first apply for the job, it 872 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,320 needs to be defined there. It needs to 873 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,680 actually be reported at that time of 874 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,240 applying, not afterwards. 875 00:42:07,240 --> 00:42:11,440 Um yeah, disclose. Um and then after 876 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,680 uh say, you know, somebody gets married 877 00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,480 here to each other. Well, fine. You have 878 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,680 a certain amount of time just to make 879 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,360 sure that those things are reviewed and 880 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,160 then 881 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:24,440 approved or if changes have to be made, 882 00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,360 I didn't see anything on that and I 883 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:27,800 that's just one of the things I would 884 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:28,280 like to 885 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,200 >> It did highlight that in our application 886 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:34,240 process, it meaning this conversation, 887 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:36,240 did highlight in our application process 888 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:38,200 that we hadn't always asked the question 889 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:39,840 on our application form, do you have any 890 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,360 relatives currently working for the 891 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,320 city? And so there have been instances 892 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,760 where 893 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,000 sisters, for example, have both been 894 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,400 hired but they have different last 895 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:50,360 names. 896 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,840 You know, because of marriage and things 897 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:53,920 like that. And so, you know, we we have 898 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,400 now added that to the to the application 899 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,120 process and and we've done that but 900 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,040 that's a little bit 901 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:05,560 tied to but not directly related to the document, right? The the language 902 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:06,760 of the policy. So 903 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:08,120 >> And do we have a diff 904 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,400 >> There is a disclosure requirement in the 905 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,160 policy. It's paragraph 10. 906 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,920 And it's it's very short. It's one two 907 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,960 sentences but it says all applicants and 908 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,520 employees shall disclose any relative 909 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,640 relationship with a city officer or 910 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,200 employee as part of the hiring process 911 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,800 or upon the development of such 912 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,360 relationship. Failure to disclose may be 913 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,440 grounds for discipline. Okay. So there's 914 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,640 two points. One, at point of hiring if 915 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,480 the relationship exists, they would have 916 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,560 to if the relationship is formed later, 917 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,400 marriage or something like that, then 918 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:42,720 they would have to report it at that 919 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:43,480 time. 920 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,040 >> And do we define 921 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,200 relative in here? Is that the same one 922 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,600 that we've been using for like conflict 923 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:50,400 of interest in the 924 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,680 >> similar, yes. 925 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,720 >> Okay. 926 00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:55,400 That's it. Those are my only questions. 927 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,880 >> Thank you, John. 928 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,030 >> Any other questions? 929 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,080 Okay, we'll look for a motion. 930 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,120 >> Move to approve resolution 26-30 931 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,520 amending the policy and procedures 3.040 932 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,800 employment of relatives relatives 933 00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:12,760 nepotism. 934 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,120 >> Second. 935 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,560 >> Give a motion second by Councilman 936 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:17,760 Halverson. 937 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,600 Do a roll call vote starting with 938 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:20,840 Councilman Halverson. 939 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,560 >> Aye. 940 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,480 >> Okay, that's unanimous. Thank you. 941 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,600 Our next item our fraud risk assessment. 942 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,040 We need to uh 943 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,480 have a motion to accept this. Uh every 944 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:39,120 year we have a fraud risk assessment 945 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,480 down here in the city and I believe that 946 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,680 this year was came back as a low risk. 947 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,830 Is that correct? 948 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,000 » We were one point away from very low. 949 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,400 >> Yes, we right now we're at the at the 950 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:55,840 low risk level. 951 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,120 >> Okay. 952 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,760 Anyone have any uh comments or questions 953 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:00,680 on this? 954 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,720 >> No. 955 00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:04,080 >> Mayor, I make a motion to approve the 956 00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:05,280 fraud risk assessment. 957 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,920 >> Second. 958 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,640 >> Okay, motion second by Councilman 959 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,520 Windsor. We'll do a roll call vote 960 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:11,960 starting with Councilman Windsor. 961 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,600 >> Aye. 962 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,720 >> Okay, that's unanimous. 963 00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:21,600 Thank you. Resolution 26-31 964 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,880 Utah Retirement System URS contribution 965 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,320 for firefighters. 966 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:32,120 Any questions, concerns, or 967 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,720 discussion on anything here? 968 00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:36,800 >> So, this is just where 969 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,000 uh the state has now allowed an extra 1. 970 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,640 25% 971 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,800 to be able to um be contributed by the 972 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,240 city for full full-time employees, 973 00:45:47,240 --> 00:45:47,480 right? 974 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,760 >> Right. The state will adjust or the not 975 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,960 the state, URS will adjust this every 976 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:54,800 once in a while and um they adjusted it 977 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,240 again this year and so the city has the 978 00:45:57,240 --> 00:46:00,040 opportunity to say um it's past the 979 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,000 point where it's specific requirement 980 00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,600 for the entity to make the payment. And 981 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,960 so the the option is to choose will the 982 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,760 city take this employee coverage amount 983 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,920 or leave it up to the employee. In the 984 00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,000 past, the council has said as a city we 985 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,280 want to take that on and provide that 986 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,360 benefit. 987 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:18,880 >> Absolutely. 988 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,161 >> Still more clarification, Joel. 989 00:46:21,161 --> 00:46:22,040 >> [clears throat] 990 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:23,120 >> There's a difference in the Utah 991 00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,400 retirement system between a type one 992 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,560 employee and a type two employee. 2012 993 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,680 became type two employees. 994 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,600 Um they capped the percentage that 995 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,440 companies, cities would have to 996 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,680 contribute towards their retirement. 997 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:38,920 >> Correct. 998 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,800 >> That cap got reached several years ago. 999 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,680 And now cities and public entities who 1000 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,120 participate Utah retirement systems 1001 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,400 uh have a choice before them. This isn't 1002 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,760 for every type two employee, it's just 1003 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,920 the firefighters that the state made 1004 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,320 provisions that cities with firefighting 1005 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,160 uh crews could elect to pay the 1006 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,800 additional amount. Um this question's 1007 00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,880 going to come to us every year because 1008 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,200 the 1009 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,480 you know, the economy keeps growing. So 1010 00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:08,840 we're going to continue to be faced with 1011 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,680 this question and it becomes an issue 1012 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:12,000 between 1013 00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,480 why not the regular employees. Uh the 1014 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,720 type two employees also have the option 1015 00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:18,360 instead of participating strictly with 1016 00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,800 the URS, they can do a hybrid or they 1017 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,720 can do all the 401K. Uh so there's some 1018 00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:25,400 other moving pieces amongst this, but 1019 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,120 the core question is do we want to 1020 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,920 continue to finance the retirement of 1021 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,040 our type two firefighter employees 1022 00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,640 beyond what the cap was. And the cap was 1023 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:38,200 set many years ago so that agencies, 1024 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,040 cities could budget for these retirement 1025 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,720 systems and not have to continue to 1026 00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:45,240 forecast what these ever-growing 1027 00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:47,040 expenses are. So 1028 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,840 anyway, there's there's the two sides of 1029 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:49,320 it. 1030 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,240 >> Oh yeah. Um my my darling wife has just 1031 00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:54,560 retired using the Utah retirement system 1032 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:56,720 and there's a lot of 1033 00:47:56,720 --> 00:47:59,360 balance in there. 1034 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,440 >> Mhm. 1035 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,870 Okay, we'll look for motion on this. 1036 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,880 » May I move to approve resolution 2631 as 1037 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,720 read? 1038 00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:12,760 >> Second it. 1039 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,880 >> Okay, a motion is seconded by councilman 1040 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,000 Dills. Do a roll call vote starting with 1041 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,200 councilman Howerton. 1042 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:24,440 >> I. 1043 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,440 >> Hey. Perfect. 1044 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,520 Unanimous. 1045 00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,160 Next item is new business. I've asked 1046 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,160 if he would take just a minute. We 1047 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,240 recently gone through the process of 1048 00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:38,360 having a 1049 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,920 bond rating on our city and we've got 1050 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,720 some information here that I'd like for 1051 00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:44,680 him to 1052 00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,680 tell us about that we all should be 1053 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,160 proud of and 1054 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,800 not only is uh city here in our city, 1055 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,280 but all of our residents should be proud 1056 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,200 as well. So, 1057 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:57,640 and it's worth 1058 00:48:57,640 --> 00:48:59,800 noting and and talking about. So, Dave, 1059 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:01,800 would you take a few minutes and 1060 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,920 tell us about our bond rating? 1061 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,000 >> Yes, as part of the process for going 1062 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,920 out to market for a bond, the city has 1063 00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,160 to present to a rating agency. There's 1064 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,600 three main 1065 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,520 rating agencies, Standard & Poor's, 1066 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,720 Moody's, and Fitch. We went before 1067 00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:22,560 Moody's and uh 1068 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,720 you explain the city, you explain the 1069 00:49:25,720 --> 00:49:27,680 financial circumstances of the city and 1070 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,680 the practices, operating principles that 1071 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:31,120 we follow, 1072 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,000 economic development, and things that 1073 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,480 are just the story of the city, as well 1074 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,360 as the bond and why we are doing the 1075 00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:38,880 bond and what it goes toward, you know, 1076 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,880 those types of things. And then the 1077 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,680 rating agency 1078 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:45,640 will evaluate a number of metrics that 1079 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,440 the city has financially and otherwise, 1080 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,360 that some of which we provide, some of 1081 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,000 which they, you know, gather on their 1082 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,880 own research. And ultimately they give 1083 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,840 two different ratings. One for the 1084 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,600 entity as a whole and then one for the 1085 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,560 bond specifically. 1086 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:03,000 And they're not always the same. And the 1087 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,280 reason for that is the type of bond will 1088 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:07,920 determine whether or not it's a higher 1089 00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:10,640 credit risk or lower credit risk um 1090 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,600 depending on the circumstances. So, 1091 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,240 ultimately we ended up with the highest 1092 00:50:15,240 --> 00:50:19,360 bond rating we could hope for, which is 1093 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:24,040 double A2 in Moody's terminology. Um 1094 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:25,560 they have a triple A which is the 1095 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,440 highest and then in the double A 1096 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,240 category double A1 2 3. 1097 00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:32,120 Uh a lot of times we think of that in 1098 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,120 the other rating agencies terminology of 1099 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,320 a double A plus, double A and double A 1100 00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,840 minus. So, as an entity we were given a 1101 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:42,680 double A1. 1102 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:43,600 Um 1103 00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:46,080 the second highest rating possible. 1104 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,240 Triple A being the highest. Second is 1105 00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:50,720 double A1. And then the type of bond we 1106 00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:52,800 have being a lease revenue bond rather 1107 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:54,920 than a general obligation bond 1108 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,280 automatically notches that one down. 1109 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,520 That that's just standard for them. It 1110 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,480 has nothing to do with the 1111 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,880 uh the agency. It really is they set the 1112 00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:07,440 agency bond rating and then drop it one 1113 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,320 for a lease revenue. Just the type of 1114 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,120 bond determines that. 1115 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:14,600 So, a double A2 is our bond rating. The 1116 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:19,200 uh types of cities that get 1117 00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,240 this type of rating 1118 00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:26,120 usually average 22,000 in population and 1119 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,640 57 million dollars in revenue. 1120 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:30,720 So, we are not in that same type of 1121 00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:33,480 category size-wise and revenue-wise, um 1122 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,360 which tells me that the other things 1123 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:36,920 that we're doing right and the other 1124 00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,640 decisions that the council are making 1125 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,400 and operational decisions that are 1126 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,240 taking place are the things that are 1127 00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:44,640 proving that we are a good credit risk 1128 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:49,400 and that we are doing things well. And it was really exciting to see after 1129 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,520 we were on the call with Moody's um and 1130 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:54,320 we got off the call and immediately got 1131 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,520 a got a phone call from Mark Anderson 1132 00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,040 with Zion's Public Finance and and he's 1133 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,880 like, you guys that was the that was the 1134 00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:02,560 best you could get. Like you should be 1135 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:06,760 thrilled. And and we are. So, that's a really big deal and a pat on 1136 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,440 the back I think for for all of the 1137 00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:10,160 council on the decisions that have been 1138 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:11,920 made over many years to get us to this 1139 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,080 point. So, I didn't pull up what our 1140 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:16,840 rating was before. I I want to look at 1141 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,280 that. I've been a little preoccupied, 1142 00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,120 but I will I'll take a look at that and compare. I'm interested to see how 1143 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,760 that relates to previous bonds. We did 1144 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,160 not do this process 1145 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:28,440 for 1146 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,240 the bond that we're refunding in 2023 1147 00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:33,960 because it was uh 1148 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,680 placed individually. We didn't go out to 1149 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,600 market to sell it. So, you do this 1150 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,160 process when you go out to market, and 1151 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,200 the last time we did that was more than 1152 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:42,880 a decade ago. So, 1153 00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:45,520 um I think it proves that we're in a 1154 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,120 good spot and things are going well, and 1155 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,480 that was really exciting news. So, 1156 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:50,680 Thanks, Mayor, for letting me bring that 1157 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:51,800 up. 1158 00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,200 >> That's worth noting. So, thank you so 1159 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,240 much. 1160 00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:57,720 Any other new business anyone have? 1161 00:52:57,720 --> 00:52:59,800 Let's do uh 1162 00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,400 committee reports then. 1163 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:03,520 Uh 1164 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:04,720 Councilman Woodbury, you want to start 1165 00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:05,480 with that? 1166 00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,840 >> Um the committees haven't met, but uh a 1167 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,360 subset of the 1168 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,320 gravel committee uh the aggregate the 1169 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,800 state aggregate operations work group 1170 00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:16,800 which is uh 1171 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,480 I've been uh asked to be a member of for 1172 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,120 the represent the city. 1173 00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,320 Uh they've 1174 00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:23,360 have [clears throat] scheduled a meeting 1175 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:24,640 tomorrow 1176 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,640 uh 1:30. Um this is the ongoing 1177 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,360 discussions that ended last December. 1178 00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,360 Um postponed, I should say, so that they 1179 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:34,560 uh they could go through the legislative 1180 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:35,880 process. 1181 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,120 So, we're continuing to have these 1182 00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:38,320 discussions. This is about fugitive 1183 00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:40,040 dust. And that's what this this 1184 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:42,080 committee meets. It's statewide uh 1185 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:43,480 committee members. 1186 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:44,880 There was also, and I didn't realize 1187 00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,800 this, but House Bill 378 in the 2026 1188 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,680 legislative session was passed that had 1189 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:52,480 um 1190 00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:54,360 some modification to fugitive dust 1191 00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:55,920 mitigation. It was more administrative 1192 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,760 changes, but that was a 1193 00:53:57,760 --> 00:53:58,440 uh 1194 00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:00,560 a bill that was ran. Uh we didn't hear 1195 00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,400 anything about it, but it didn't seem 1196 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:09,350 like it was uh 1197 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:10,600 I'll be attending that meeting tomorrow. 1198 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:11,760 I can have some report in a couple 1199 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,560 weeks, if any. 1200 00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:14,840 >> Good. 1201 00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:16,480 >> Jeremy. 1202 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:19,280 >> Uh nothing uh solid. Uh Dave just 1203 00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:21,240 presented us with uh 1204 00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:24,360 a kind of first draft of the uh golf 1205 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,240 cart policy. So, that's under review 1206 00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:27,680 right now, and 1207 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:29,080 hopefully we'll be bringing that to the 1208 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,360 full council soon. 1209 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,360 That's it. 1210 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:34,640 >> Joel. 1211 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,040 >> Um 1212 00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,760 uh I guess this would fall under it. 1213 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:38,760 I've 1214 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,560 uh received a request uh where I used to 1215 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:44,440 be um with the Parks Committee. Um 1216 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,600 they're already looking for the day of 1217 00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:47,840 service, 1218 00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:50,000 and some people are wanting to request 1219 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,520 specific parks like they have in the 1220 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,840 past. Um I'll just forward them over to 1221 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,360 you, and then 1222 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:56,320 uh 1223 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:57,920 you guys can decide how to how to work 1224 00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:58,440 those. 1225 00:54:58,440 --> 00:54:59,080 >> Thank you. 1226 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,160 >> That's it. 1227 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:01,720 >> Angie. 1228 00:55:01,720 --> 00:55:03,720 >> Nothing further to report. 1229 00:55:03,720 --> 00:55:04,480 >> Blair. 1230 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:05,880 >> Nothing to report. 1231 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,640 >> Shaylee, have you got anything? 1232 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,800 We're good. Okay. 1233 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,960 Then next item on the agenda is our 1234 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,440 favorite one of the day. 1235 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,600 Look for a motion to adjourn. 1236 00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:20,430 >> So moved. 1237 00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:22,880 » Nobody wants to second 1238 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:24,040 >> All in favor, say aye. 1239 00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,240 >> Aye.