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Mhm.

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» Our dear heavenly father, as we come

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before thee this evening, we're so very

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grateful that we have the opportunity to

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gather here and discuss the needs of the

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city and

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the area around us. Father, we ask that

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we may be able to discuss the issues

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before us and in a peaceful and civil

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manner and that we may be able to make

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the best decisions for the citizens in

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this area.

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We're thankful for all those who

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serve our country and to our local area,

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our firefighters and our sheriffs, and

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we ask you to watch over and protect

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them and

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help them to return return home in

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safety.

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We pray for moisture that we need so

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desperately in this area and throughout

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the state that we may have the water we

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stand in need of. Again, we're thankful

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for all that we have and we love thee

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and we say these things in thy son Jesus

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Christ. Amen.

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» Okay, thank you, Councilman

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Petty and Councilman Halverson, we

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appreciate that

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very much. We're here this evening for

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one item, only, and that's a public

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hearing on proposed tax increase.

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Uh before we get into that, we need to

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read the following statement that is

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required by state.

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If the proposed tax increase is

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approved, South Weber would receive an additional $12,046

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in property tax revenue. Those funds

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would be distributed across departments

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and used specifically for the following:

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court supplies, administrative

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equipment, public safety, emergency

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preparation,

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fire uniforms, training, equipment,

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supplies, and maintenance, building and

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grounds maintenance, and equipment.

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abatements, equipment.

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maintenance.

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Parking engineering fees.

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So, with that,

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uh we've got, like I said, one item. So,

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we look for a motion to open public

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hearing on proposed

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tax increase for 2026.

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>> Move to open the public hearing.

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>> Second it.

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>> I have a motion second by Councilwoman

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Petty.

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what we would like if anyone would like

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to come up,

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public hearing is open. Please step up

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to the podium,

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uh state your name and city, and we'll

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allow you 3 minutes

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for comments, and please uh address the

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entire council.

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>> Mayor, can we have a vote?

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>> Just to dot the eyes.

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>> With a first and a second, let's emotion

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all in favor.

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>> Oh, I didn't I do that?

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>> No, it's okay.

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>> All those that are in favor of opening

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the public hearing, say I. I. I. Sorry

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about that. Bye.

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>> Thank you.

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>> Jumping the gun here. Okay.

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Public hearing is open.

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Anybody have some comments, please come

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up.

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>> I've got young women's in a few, so I

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thought I'd be up.

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And I just have to say, oh, Amy

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Mitchell, 1923 Darren Drive. I'm super

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disappointed that like this room isn't

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just filled with residents concerned,

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and I would want to go knock on all

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their doors, but

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we don't have time to do that.

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Okay. Um I'm here tonight because I'm

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concerned that we continue to look for

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ways to increase tax revenue instead of

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first asking a much simpler question,

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where can we reduce spending spending?

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Families in South Weber have to live

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within a budget. When our expenses

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increase, we don't automatically get to

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increase our income. We prioritize. We

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postpone things that we would like to

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have. We cut back, and I believe our

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city should be expected to to do the

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same before acting before asking

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residents to pay more.

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For years, residents have been told that

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commercial development will strengthen

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our tax tax base. We brought in the RV

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center, and now we are adding a

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development like Quilt Quick Trip, and

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even more on South Weber Drive with the

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townhouse development. If this

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commercial growth is generating the

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additional revenue we were promised,

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when do residents actually get to see

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the benefits?

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At the same time, we continue to spend.

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We've seen an approximately 11% raise

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for our city manager, another raise for

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our city planner, and a roughly $9

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million public works complex, and money

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spent in installing towers for the

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city's water meter reading system. Maybe

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there is a justification for each one of

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these expenditures, but at some point,

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we have to stop looking at them

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individually and look at the bigger

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picture. Do we need all of this right

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now?

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There's a difference between a city what

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a city needs to function well and what

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would simply be nice to have. South

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Weber is a small community. We don't

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need to fund every dream, every new

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project, or every idea simply because

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someone believes it would improve the

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city.

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And I think we need to remember

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something else. City staff work for the

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residents of South Weber. The residents

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do not work for the city. Our elected

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official officials should be setting

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priorities based on what the people who

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live here need and can afford, not

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feeling pressured into continually

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expanding budgets, projects, facilities,

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salaries, or programs because staff

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recommends them. Before raising property

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taxes, I would like to see the city go

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through its budget line by line and tell

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residents what has been cut, what has

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been postponed, what projects have been

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scaled back and what expenses have been

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determined to be unnecessary? I would

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also like transparency about any tax

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incentives or financial concessions

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being offered to encourage businesses or

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developers to build here.

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If we're giving away future tax revenue

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to attract development while

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simultaneously asking existing residents

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to pay more, taxpayers deserve to

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understand that equation. A truth in

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taxation hearing shouldn't be

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shouldn't only be about explaining why

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the city needs more money. It should

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also be about distri-

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demonstrating that the city has made

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every reasonable effort to need less

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money.

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Residents are already paying more for

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groceries, insurance, utilities,

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housing, and nearly everything else.

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We don't get a raise.

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We don't get to raise our income by 5,

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10, or 11% simply because our expenses

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increased. We have to make choices and

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live within our means. I'm asking the

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city to do the same. Focus on essential

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services, take care of what we already

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have, use the commercial tax base we

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were promised, and be willing to say no

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to projects that can wait. And most

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importantly, remember who ultimately

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pays the bill. The first solution to a

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budget problem should not always be more

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revenue. Sometimes the responsible

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solution is less spending.

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I would also like you to I would also

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like to ask for a comparison to other

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cities of our same size. How many

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employees do they have? How many are

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full-time? How many are part-time? What

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do they get by with? I know that a lot

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of cities around us have a bigger tax

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revenue that we do than we do,

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but we still should live within our

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means. And that's what I'm asking for

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tonight. Thank you.

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>> Thank you.

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» Michael Grant, 2622 Deer Run Drive,

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South Weber.

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Um, I appreciate Amy's comments. Um,

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I do want you, the City Council, to know

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that um

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if um we attend the meeting here

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after meeting, handful meeting after

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handful meeting, every single one of

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them,

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I have noticed that you guys do go line

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by line trying to reduce the cost, not

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add more expenses, retain the good staff

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that we have by paying them

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competitive market rates, otherwise they

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will leave, and that makes things even

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harder. So, your effort has not gone

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unnoticed. Of course, there's always

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room for improvement, and we should keep

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trying. Thank you.

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>> Thanks, Michael.

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» Anyone else?

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look for a motion to close the public

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hearing.

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>> Motion to close the public hearing.

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>> Second.

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» Okay, uh we'd like Dave and Brett if

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they would

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give us a lead-in here.

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» This is going to pull up just a couple

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of slides that I have here prepared just

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as kind of background information

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uh for the public about the process and

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uh property taxes in general and what

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this specifically is for the city.

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>> There's really only uh only

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five quick slides. Uh the first is a is

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a overview of how property taxes work in

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Utah, and we've talked about this before

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but the idea of the state's goal to

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essential or the philosophy of property

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taxes is to have the city receive the

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same amount of revenue year after year

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and the equation of the property rate

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times the property value in the city

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equals the revenue that we receive as a

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city and the constant is the revenue we receive. So as values change the rate

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automatically adjusts

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so that the city receives that same

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value

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unless there's a conscious decision by

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the council to hold that rate or to do

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something different with that rate than

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what the county suggests to us through

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the certified tax rate process. So that

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teeter-totter effect

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does happen and and that is what we talk

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about every year as we go through the

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budget process.

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This year we've had the discussion to

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this point of holding the rate as it is

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rather than letting it decrease just a

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there's also a small element of

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additional property that has been

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developed additional growth within the

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city

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to the tune of about $30,000

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this year and the estimated revenues

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from last year to this year with the

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same rate that we've talked about.

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is the rate that we had last year the

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certified tax rate was proposed by the

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county at .001421

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and by holding the rate at 1434

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the city would receive $13,000

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more than what the certified tax rate

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would provide which is an estimated .99%

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so just less than 1% increase is what it

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is we're talking about. Um

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the

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mayor read through what

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has been talked about of where that

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money would go.

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Um ultimately that $13,000

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as has been discussed would would go to

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support transfer for the recreation

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department and and the tree and trail

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program at about $2,000 for that and

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$11,000 for the

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It's all right. I'll just talk through

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it.

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And and then $11,000 for the for the

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transfer for the recreation department

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to to support rec.

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So uh

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where does that money go or how much is

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that for each resident? Um the average

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home price in

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uh South Weber is

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$596,000.

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It ends up being $4.26

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for the year as the increase. Um

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approximately $0.36 per month.

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And that's kind of the the main overview

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or summary right there.

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Uh I do have some information in slides

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of tax rate history and comparison to

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other cities if if you're interested in

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seeing those things. Um

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go to the tax rate history real quick,

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Lisa.

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You'll notice there the numbers are

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really small. It's just presented in two

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different ways to show

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uh the actual rate over the last 25-plus

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years. Uh 1998 until now. And then in

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graph format you can see how over time

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the rate has decreased as values have

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increased. In the early 2010s during the

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recession as values decreased the rate

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did increase slightly. But the first

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time the city went through the truth in

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taxation process there in 2019 is when

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you see that big spike.

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Um and then the philosophy at the time

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was to maintain a rate

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uh in that range so that the

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value uh and buying power of the city

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wouldn't erode over time.

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And uh

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So that's just a graphic representation

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of where the city's been over time in

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our tax rate. And then the the second to

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last slide there is a comparison of uh

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cities within Davis County.

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We're right about in the middle. Uh if

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you include the city rates and special

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service district rates uh for some of

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those other cities, then we are near the

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bottom. We're about the third from the

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bottom if you also include some of those

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um

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special service districts for fire and other services that we take on as a

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city within our rate. Um but city only

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rates, that's that's where we're at.

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So

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again, last uh last summary is the

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conversation to this point is hold the

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rate where it was last year. It gets us

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an additional $13,000, which is just

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under 1% increase. And

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uh for a residential property, that's

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for an average residential property in

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the city, it's $4.26.

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Okay.

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>> Thank you, Dave.

364
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Appreciate that.

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Comments from the council?

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» Guess it's just me.

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Um

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>> [snorts]

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>> I want the council to know that I'm

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um not just trying to be a contrarian or

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however you say that.

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Um

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Like

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I'm sure I may seem that at times.

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Um

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but the reality is

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I just want to do what's right while I'm

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holding this office for the city.

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And I don't know if I'm doing that or

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not. So, I'm not saying that I'm doing

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it right and you guys are wrong.

382
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I just know that

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when I sincerely take a look at this and

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what we are doing and how we are doing

385
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our budgeting,

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um

387
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I have problems with it.

388
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Um yes, it is $4.26

389
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about average for homes here in South

390
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Weber that it's going to go up.

391
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Um

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>> [snorts]

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>> but that's not our $4.26 that we're

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requiring from every single person that

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owns

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a house. Is that affordable? Yeah.

397
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That's definitely a trip to Maverick

398
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with a candy bar and a drink.

399
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But again,

400
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if we were looking at our budgeting

401
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correctly

402
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or the way I feel about it,

403
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we'd be looking at the long-term

404
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consequences of doing these kind of uh

405
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tax increases.

406
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We have a uh like Amy said, we have an

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$8.9 million long-term bondage

408
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that we've got to handle.

409
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We are nearing the end of our build-out.

410
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Pretty soon, I mean I I as soon as we

411
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get some of the properties around the hill over here done,

412
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all of the money that we're getting from

413
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build-out,

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we're not going to have that anymore to

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fund this.

416
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When you look at our two new businesses,

417
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we've got QT coming in, we've got

418
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General RV who has been

419
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they've told us from the beginning

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revenue is going to start and it's going

421
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to keep on increasing.

422
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Um well, the RV industry is going

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through a reset right now.

424
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Um none of us could know that. They

425
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couldn't know it. Um but this week is

426
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still one of their grand opening sales

427
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or one of their yearly sales that

428
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they're doing.

429
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So,

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I think we've done the right thing when

431
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it comes to bringing in businesses to

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try to take that burden off of the

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taxpayers,

434
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but it doesn't change when we have that

435
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much of a debt coming towards us,

436
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and we're still looking at everything

437
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just on a Well, this year, it will only

438
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cost us four bucks.

439
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Um

440
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we have

441
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as a list of things that if we don't pay

442
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for this one,

443
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uh

444
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we have

445
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public-facing services.

446
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We don't have anything that says, you

447
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:21,520
know, we're going to slow down on our

448
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,080
printer use and go all digital. We don't

449
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,800
have And I'm just making things up.

450
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When we have things that go, "Okay,

451
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,600
these are the things that affect the

452
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,440
public, well, let's cut those."

453
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,200
And we don't have the A, we're doing a

454
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,440
across-the-board

455
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,320
sync with all the other cities around us

456
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,640
to try to get us into the middle range.

457
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,440
South Weber isn't a middle-range city.

458
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,840
I love this city. I love our staff. I

459
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,240
think they deserve it. I

460
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,440
think they deserve better than that.

461
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But,

462
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we

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we're a small city with very, very

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little income,

465
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:07,200
and we are doing a large employee

466
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package

467
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that we will have to pay for every year

468
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going forward.

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So,

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while we had

471
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savings in our general fund, and we can

472
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keep using it, and hopefully, we can use

473
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some of that for capital, cuz we've got

474
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a lot of capital projects that are

475
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coming down that same road, too.

476
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And guess what? Right now, with the tax

477
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rate and the way we're doing things,

478
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we're going to have to bond for that

479
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one, too.

480
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And as we keep doing this, it's like,

481
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,200
well, okay, I need to do this now. So, I

482
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,790
need another credit card.

483
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I'm just worried that if we don't start

484
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looking at

485
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here is our revenue and here is how much

486
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we're actually trying to spend getting

487
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away from all of the one-time

488
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ARPA monies and any of these kind of

489
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things. We don't even know what the tax

490
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,680
rate will be like.

491
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,040
Um next year. I'm assuming it's going to

492
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be about the same thing maybe a five,

493
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six-dollar one.

494
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Um

495
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,080
but we've got to look at it long-term

496
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and so

497
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um just for my own personal,

498
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,720
I have a hard time or I don't have a

499
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,400
hard time. I will be voting no on this

500
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because we've got the pits that are

501
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moving out further

502
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and will not be giving us more money,

503
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which is part of the reason why the rec

504
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program is is starting to have some

505
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issues.

506
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We've got

507
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,600
so many

508
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,160
areas of gray that I don't think right

509
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:39,360
now

510
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would been the time to go with an

511
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employee across the board sync up with

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other cities because we're not other

513
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cities. Although

514
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the employees deserve that.

515
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:57,960
I 100% believe that and state that it's not the employees I'm talking

516
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,640
about.

517
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This is an overall

518
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,640
are we

519
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the city that can do this kind of

520
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programs and pay

521
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and I don't think we are.

522
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Thank you for listening.

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» The only The only comment I have to make

524
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,840
and Joel, I would agree with you that

525
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there's there's a bigger overall budget

526
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,800
discussion that needs to be had

527
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,440
and long-term but going back to when you

528
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,440
saw that great big spike on that chart

529
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:32,800
and what was that? Eight, years ago?

530
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:33,960
>> Yeah.

531
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,520
>> Um

532
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,960
that was when I learned that the city

533
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,080
hadn't

534
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,800
changed the rate or held the rate.

535
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:42,200
They've just let the rate deteriorate

536
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,560
since 1970.

537
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:44,800
>> Yeah.

538
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,159
>> And

539
00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:47,840
I mean, if you look at this as a from a

540
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,639
flat tax percentage, just saying you're

541
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:51,840
paying a 10% rate,

542
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:55,080
all we're doing is holding a rate.

543
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,000
This is not the [clears throat] $12,000

544
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,600
is not

545
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,560
the conversation. It's a long-term

546
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,280
discussion. Does our city want a

547
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,440
philosophy of holding that rate,

548
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,240
maintaining it?

549
00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:09,320
We still have a bigger discussion on the

550
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,240
rest of our budget than $12,000.

551
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:13,040
>> I would agree with you.

552
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,040
>> And and last year we let the rate

553
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,360
deteriorate. I didn't necessarily agree

554
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,240
with that cuz I said we I would I would

555
00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:22,320
vote to maintain the rate at the same

556
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,680
percentage. I don't want to vote in 5

557
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,800
more years to do a 100% tax rate

558
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,760
increase again.

559
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,520
Cuz that's crazy.

560
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,960
But our property tax is minuscule on our

561
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,560
budget

562
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,160
overall compared to the rest of our

563
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,680
total budget.

564
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,920
All this is is maintaining a a steady

565
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,920
path forward that doesn't even really

566
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,280
keep up with inflation

567
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,000
when you look at that number.

568
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,400
So, I'm I'm in favor for maintaining the

569
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,360
rate and that's that's why I'm in favor

570
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,560
for maintaining the rate. I think the

571
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:54,960
overall budget discussion is a whole

572
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,080
'nother issue.

573
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,640
>> And I agree with you and that's why it

574
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:58,520
tears me apart.

575
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,320
>> Yeah. But we've we've had this budget

576
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:05,640
discussion for a long time. So, and I knew where you stood. So, I'm not This isn't directed to you. I

577
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,480
was just explaining why I am in favor of

578
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:12,790
maintaining this rate.

579
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:18,430
» Anyone else?

580
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,640
» I feel the same way with Blair. We need

581
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,920
to maintain that rate. When I first came

582
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,840
in as mayor and

583
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,040
uh we discussed that and and

584
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,440
as Blair said without

585
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,440
repeating it again, but we need to

586
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,320
maintain that rate.

587
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,640
If you don't, you're going to fall way

588
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,040
off and you're going to have that large

589
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,960
increase some years down the road.

590
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,600
So,

591
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,990
and

592
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:46,720
So, that's what we are proposing. We're

593
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:49,760
holding the rate. We are getting $12,000

594
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,560
more by holding the rate, but it's the

595
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,400
same rate that we used last year.

596
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,190
So.

597
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,360
Any other comments?

598
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:06,830
No comments, we'll look for a motion.

599
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,720
» Mayor, I move to approve resolution 2632

600
00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:13,120
tax year 2026 certified property tax

601
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:18,430
rate of 0.00143.

602
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,640
» We have a motion, do we have a second?

603
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,200
>> Second.

604
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,520
by Jeremy Davis. Uh, we'll do a

605
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,560
roll call vote starting with Council

606
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:27,360
Windsor.

607
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:31,280
>> I

608
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,230
>> Okay, 4-1, motion carries.

609
00:37:35,240 --> 00:37:37,480
Appreciate that.

610
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,960
And that's our agenda

611
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,400
for this evening.

612
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,160
Look for a motion to adjourn.

613
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,280
>> Move to adjourn.

614
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:45,360
>> Second.

615
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,440
>> All in favor say I.

616
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,720
>> I