1 00:00:05,230 --> 00:00:29,350 Good evening and welcome to the March 15th, 2023 Southway Hall Township Board of Commissioners meeting. I will call this meeting to order. If you would all please rise and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, invisible liberty and justice for all. 2 00:00:38,100 --> 00:00:41,900 Thank you. I'd like to announce that all public sessions of the Southway Hall Township Board of 3 00:00:41,900 --> 00:00:46,440 The commissioners are electronically recorded, filed, and posted to the website for public access. 4 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:52,860 I would also like to note that all commissioners are present this evening except for commissioner David Kennedy. 5 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:59,240 At this time, I'll ask our township manager, Tom Pertrucci, to please review our public virtual meetings. 6 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,040 Thank you. 7 00:01:01,380 --> 00:01:02,520 The rules are as follows. 8 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,780 Currency of the floor for non-agenda items will be at the beginning and end of the agenda. 9 00:01:07,220 --> 00:01:10,100 Public comment will be limited to five minutes per speaker. 10 00:01:10,100 --> 00:01:18,180 For all listed agenda items, the board president will call for courtesy of the floor prior to the Board of Commissioners taking action on that specific agenda item. 11 00:01:18,660 --> 00:01:23,640 For in-person attendees, please raise your hand to be recognized and move to the podium when directed. 12 00:01:24,180 --> 00:01:28,780 You will be asked to state your name and address for the record and may them proceed with asking your question. 13 00:01:29,380 --> 00:01:36,200 For those participating virtually, please mute your microphone or telephone to avoid any background noise that may cause interference in the meeting. 14 00:01:36,780 --> 00:01:39,340 The chat box feature will be active throughout the meeting. 15 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,160 If you have a comment or question, please type your full name and address into the chat box. 16 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,160 The staff member monitoring go to meeting. 17 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:50,200 Well, then a mutual microphone and you will have the opportunity to comment or ask a question. 18 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:50,780 Thank you. 19 00:01:51,420 --> 00:01:52,160 Thank you, Tom. 20 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:58,560 I'd also like to announce that the Board of Commissioners did meet an executive session this evening prior to our meeting to discuss legal matters. 21 00:01:59,420 --> 00:02:02,920 At this time, I'll go on to agenda item four courtesy of the floor. 22 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:07,820 this is opportunity for public comment on any non-agenda items. Is there anyone in the audience 23 00:02:07,820 --> 00:02:13,260 or online who'd like to address the board at this time? Yes, sir. If you come up to the microphone 24 00:02:16,390 --> 00:02:20,390 and then just please turn on the microphone. The green light will come on and if you give us your name 25 00:02:20,390 --> 00:02:26,770 and address. There it's on. Excellent. Thank you. Good evening everyone. My name is Mark Bradbury. 26 00:02:26,770 --> 00:02:30,370 I live at 4279 Heather Court in South Whitehall Township. 27 00:02:32,010 --> 00:02:38,710 Here tonight just to briefly congratulate the board for finally getting a comprehensive 28 00:02:38,710 --> 00:02:42,830 plan, you know, will finally be done. 29 00:02:43,030 --> 00:02:46,410 I think the last one was 2009, is that correct? 30 00:02:48,450 --> 00:02:53,150 And I have one of my clients with me, but I had several other, some of them are dead already, 31 00:02:53,150 --> 00:03:06,290 that tried to get things re-zoned or changed or modified over the course of the last nine to ten years and we were always told that the way to the comprehensive plan is done. 32 00:03:06,710 --> 00:03:09,850 We don't want to make any decisions to the comprehensive plan is done. 33 00:03:11,670 --> 00:03:14,310 Unfortunately, that sometimes doesn't make any sense. 34 00:03:14,310 --> 00:03:35,870 I took the liberty of looking back at the 2009 land use future access areas, which a lot of people, when a comprehensive plan is done, take it at face value and look at it and say, look, I see opportunities here that the township looks like they're willing to back me up on. 35 00:03:35,870 --> 00:03:43,750 There's areas that show growth areas of different types of residential or commercial or different 36 00:03:43,750 --> 00:03:50,730 types of uses that are permitted by the NPC in a task ship. 37 00:03:51,330 --> 00:03:59,910 I was surprised when I looked through the new comprehensive plan and noticed that a lot 38 00:03:59,910 --> 00:04:09,130 of those had been taken away done away with completely and I understand that from conversations 39 00:04:09,130 --> 00:04:15,510 with some of your staff that when the rezoning does take place and I don't know when you're 40 00:04:15,510 --> 00:04:19,690 going to do it when I'm sure there is going to be some areas that are going to be rezoned 41 00:04:21,410 --> 00:04:29,850 or possibly amend it and when I say amend it I look at the areas especially on the future 42 00:04:29,850 --> 00:04:38,690 growth map that has the green, Jordan, Greek area, and then the green field, or I'm sorry, 43 00:04:38,830 --> 00:04:42,010 not the green field, the natural 44 00:04:44,220 --> 00:04:44,940 resources. 45 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:51,880 Those areas normally are offered wetlands, steep slopes, floodplains, et cetera, and they 46 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:52,480 make sense. 47 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:58,460 They are absolutely necessary to keep the health of the township, keep our waterways clean, 48 00:04:58,460 --> 00:04:59,960 and help us with that. 49 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:10,880 Ketelstain, healthy growth in the township. However, Mark, could I interrupt you just a moment. I didn't realize all of your comments were going to be regarding the comprehensive plan. Okay. 50 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:16,520 is the public hearing. We will be conducting an actual public hearing and accepting public comment 51 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:22,460 that you will have. Oh, after you do your presentation, sure. You're welcome to finish the comments now. 52 00:05:22,460 --> 00:05:27,580 I can wait until you're done. Or when we open up the hearing, if you'd like to have that included in part. 53 00:05:27,580 --> 00:05:33,000 I was almost done, but I'll wait until that happens. Okay, sure. Okay, thank you. 54 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:38,620 All right, thank you. Anyone else in the audience with any comment on non-agenda items? 55 00:05:38,620 --> 00:05:40,640 Is there anyone online? 56 00:05:42,340 --> 00:05:42,680 Very good. 57 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:43,100 Thank you. 58 00:05:44,220 --> 00:05:45,960 Moving on to agenda item five. 59 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,900 Our meeting minutes from the March 1, 2023 Board of Commissioners. 60 00:05:50,260 --> 00:05:53,120 Meeting have been distributed to the Board for your review. 61 00:05:53,280 --> 00:05:56,500 Are there any comments or questions on the meeting minutes this evening? 62 00:05:58,140 --> 00:06:00,060 Hearing and seeing none, do I have a motion to approve? 63 00:06:00,580 --> 00:06:00,960 So moved. 64 00:06:01,820 --> 00:06:02,560 I'll second. 65 00:06:02,820 --> 00:06:03,260 All in favor? 66 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:03,780 Aye. 67 00:06:03,980 --> 00:06:04,240 Aye. 68 00:06:04,580 --> 00:06:04,920 Any opposed? 69 00:06:05,300 --> 00:06:06,740 Motion carries four to zero. 70 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:13,160 There are no ordinances this evening moving on to agenda item seven resolutions. 71 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:19,820 I'm going to pass this portion of the meeting over to Dave Manhart, Director of Community 72 00:06:19,820 --> 00:06:23,240 Development to just give us an overview of the comprehensive plan before. 73 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,200 Do we need to open the public hearing? 74 00:06:25,580 --> 00:06:29,540 Let me go ahead and open a public hearing and then I'll turn it to you in just a moment, Dave. 75 00:06:30,900 --> 00:06:35,380 This public hearing is a bit unusual for those of you that have knowledge about the news 76 00:06:35,380 --> 00:06:39,960 planning code or 10 public meetings, you probably recognize that most often, 77 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,960 public hearings associated with an ordinance adoption or consideration for adoption. 78 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:52,000 Resolutions which are on just about every agenda, almost never have a public hearing. 79 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,520 But this is a process mandated by the municipality's planning code. 80 00:06:56,220 --> 00:07:03,360 And I would note for the record that the preliminaries that I refer to as advertising public notice and 81 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,680 like under the MPC have been fulfilled for this public hearing. 82 00:07:08,100 --> 00:07:10,120 The purpose of a public hearing is two-fold. 83 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:16,320 One is to inform the public, the other is to accept public comment for consideration 84 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:22,720 by the board before the hearing closes and ultimately for consideration when there are decisions 85 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,080 to be made such as can be made in the board discretion this evening. 86 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,620 So with that having been said, the first component of that is informing the public and I'll turn 87 00:07:31,620 --> 00:07:32,920 that to Mr. Manhardt, please. 88 00:07:34,260 --> 00:07:35,160 Thank you. 89 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:45,620 So with the comprehensive plan, some of the questions we've gotten a lot, and I kind of want 90 00:07:45,620 --> 00:07:51,520 to start with this, is what is the comprehensive plan and more importantly what is not a comprehensive 91 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:51,940 plan? 92 00:07:52,700 --> 00:07:59,680 So a comprehensive plan from one is required by the MPC is Joe alluded to, is required for 93 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,460 municipalities to have a comprehensive plan. 94 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:11,920 The second thing a comprehensive plan does is it sets the vision for future growth development and preservation. 95 00:08:13,130 --> 00:08:24,300 It sets a high level policy and that it also lays the foundation for any regulatory decisions moving forward. 96 00:08:25,740 --> 00:08:37,400 What it is not, it is not a zoning ordinance change, it is not a zoning map change, it is not a change to saldo, it's not a change to the official map. 97 00:08:38,180 --> 00:08:50,520 So what the purpose of the comprehensive plan is when the legislature goes to make those changes a reference to the comprehensive plan to help inform any of those decisions. 98 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:57,580 So, that's why a comprehensive plans are typically broader more of a policy document. 99 00:08:59,060 --> 00:09:04,300 So, that's an important distinction and it's been a lot of the questions that we've been 100 00:09:04,300 --> 00:09:07,820 fielding as staff throughout this entire process. 101 00:09:08,620 --> 00:09:11,320 So, I wanted to kind of get that out there first. 102 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:19,960 First, the second part of this is how did we get to this point? 103 00:09:21,560 --> 00:09:31,120 Starting in 2019, almost four years to the day, actually March 13th was the first meeting. 104 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:38,020 We started with the guiding principal meetings and we called that phase one. 105 00:09:39,580 --> 00:09:47,040 The way we structure the comprehensive plan is we wanted to do a big chunk of public engagement up front. 106 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:55,940 To get as much public input as we could up front and then funnel that down into the comprehensive plan. 107 00:09:55,940 --> 00:09:59,960 So there were three years of... 108 00:10:00,140 --> 00:10:27,960 Public engagement, deliberate. Phase one was the existing conditions and guiding principle meetings that we had at the high school. Phase two were the where should we grow exercises that included the maps, getting people to have an idea where in the township might be appropriate to accommodate growth. Also where they would like to see protected and what they felt needed to be improved. 109 00:10:29,100 --> 00:10:34,900 We then, well, then COVID hit, so we had to make a pivot there. 110 00:10:35,870 --> 00:10:42,240 We prepared an online visual preference survey that was sent out, and that was in, 111 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:51,500 we launched that in October of 2020, ran that through till February, got close to, I believe 112 00:10:51,500 --> 00:10:52,940 it was 700 responses. 113 00:10:53,660 --> 00:11:01,040 And the idea there was to figure out, once we know where the public wants things we should 114 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,560 grow, how is it going to look? 115 00:11:03,860 --> 00:11:13,000 So we took that and then went into phase four where we split into working groups, specific 116 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,960 based on specific topic areas. 117 00:11:15,580 --> 00:11:22,320 This is where people that had an interest in transportation could get involved and make 118 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:28,480 recommendations, we had workbooks set up that helped people walk through that process. 119 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:36,900 And then that kind of culminated with the, that ended the public engagement focus phase. 120 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:45,920 The next phase was the joint comprehensive plan workshops with the POC and the planning 121 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:53,660 commission where we as staff distilled all of that information, hopefully clearly, into 122 00:11:53,660 --> 00:11:59,540 goals and objectives and implementation items that we work through on the topic basis. 123 00:12:00,140 --> 00:12:06,680 That process took about a year, and here we are. 124 00:12:07,500 --> 00:12:15,080 So one of the things that distinguishes, in my opinion, and colleagues and staff that distinguishes 125 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,100 this comprehensive plan is the amount of public engagement. 126 00:12:20,300 --> 00:12:27,540 We've had in addition to updates at regularly scheduled B.O.C. meetings and planning commission meetings. 127 00:12:28,820 --> 00:12:39,420 We've had five standalone public meetings, 16 joint B.O.C., planning commission workshops, 15 group workshops, 128 00:12:39,420 --> 00:12:49,340 seven open houses, four pop-up events, two plan and commission meetings that were dedicated to the Comprehensive Plan, and then the online 129 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:55,240 visual preference survey. So there was a lot of public engagement throughout that process. 130 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,100 The next thing I wanted to talk about is where we're going. 131 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:11,540 Some of the things that came up during that public engagement process was having a clear road map to move forward with the comprehensive plan. 132 00:13:11,660 --> 00:13:19,280 There were a lot of comments early on, how do we know how we did on the 2009 plan? 133 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:29,440 We didn't have that clear implementation item, so this comprehensive plan was very deliberate in laying out implementation items. 134 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:39,240 So, that provides moving forward the framework and the action plan almost of how we get this thing off the ground, what we can do. 135 00:13:40,300 --> 00:13:47,480 And most of those implementations are related around or revolve around detailed plans. 136 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:58,560 So those detailed plans will help any decision makers, the Board of Commissioners, make decisions for regulatory changes. 137 00:13:58,560 --> 00:14:04,540 So if there's a change to the official map, a change to zoning, a change to the saldo, 138 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:10,720 those detailed plans in construction with the comprehensive plan are designed and 139 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:20,240 deliberately prepared to give information so that the board can make educated decisions moving forward. 140 00:14:21,300 --> 00:14:27,440 In addition to establishing processes, if we need to do that, for implementation. 141 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:33,280 So, that was another distinguishing aspect of this comprehensive plan. 142 00:14:38,650 --> 00:14:44,630 Thirdly, is how will we measure success that kind of ties into some of the comments 143 00:14:44,630 --> 00:14:45,710 from early on? 144 00:14:47,710 --> 00:14:53,210 Because we have it laid out with implementation, we can clearly see how we're doing on implementation. 145 00:14:54,530 --> 00:14:59,570 If there's something that slipped through the cracks, we know it's in there, we can go 146 00:14:59,570 --> 00:14:59,970 We'll back it. 147 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,020 And then look at it and pull it out if we need to. The other thing that's recommended as part of this is a re-examination report. So that piece will force, and we'll have to figure out how it gets adopted in the details of it. But that will force the planning commission and the board of commissioners to periodically look at the comprehensive plan. And if things come up that require changes, we can go back in and make amendments or 148 00:15:29,020 --> 00:15:31,900 or tweak some implementation items and things like that. 149 00:15:32,700 --> 00:15:40,240 So that gives the broad framework of how it was laid out and kind of addresses some of 150 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:45,300 the comments and concerns that we've heard going through this process. 151 00:15:46,740 --> 00:15:54,320 I do want to thank all the staff that was involved, the board members, past and present, staff 152 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:00,100 a lot of people have worked on this and it was a great team. 153 00:16:01,980 --> 00:16:02,900 Great to be here, finally. 154 00:16:05,250 --> 00:16:05,610 Thank you. 155 00:16:06,830 --> 00:16:07,570 Thank you, Dave. 156 00:16:08,050 --> 00:16:10,190 Does the board have any questions of Mr. Mannhart? 157 00:16:12,700 --> 00:16:13,420 No questions. 158 00:16:14,980 --> 00:16:15,560 Thank you. 159 00:16:17,660 --> 00:16:20,700 Does the board have any comments before I open it up to the public? 160 00:16:22,730 --> 00:16:24,330 I'll certainly make a general comment. 161 00:16:24,930 --> 00:16:28,210 Dave, thank you for delineating the amount of work, 162 00:16:28,210 --> 00:16:36,070 work, man hours that staff and board, both this board and planning, have dedicated to 163 00:16:36,070 --> 00:16:40,410 this, but more importantly, I want to thank you and all of the team that has been involved 164 00:16:40,410 --> 00:16:43,110 for the outreach to the community. 165 00:16:43,430 --> 00:16:48,110 I think that was something that we heard over and over again that the community did not 166 00:16:48,110 --> 00:16:57,930 feel like they had a voice, and you provided, you and the team, multiple options for the 167 00:16:57,930 --> 00:17:03,570 public to participate, whether in person, online, a survey, an open house. 168 00:17:04,050 --> 00:17:09,150 So I want to thank you for bringing the community together, and the product that has come 169 00:17:09,150 --> 00:17:13,830 out of this is excellent, and I look forward to the next steps. 170 00:17:16,110 --> 00:17:22,810 And just to follow up on that is, the implementation is, again, we're going to be reaching out to 171 00:17:22,810 --> 00:17:26,310 public during that implementation phase as well. 172 00:17:26,310 --> 00:17:34,170 So it kind of I kind of see that public involvement kind of died down during the workshops because we were going through a lot of it 173 00:17:34,950 --> 00:17:38,490 But now with implementation I see us ramping it back up. 174 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,120 I do have one comment as well 175 00:17:43,120 --> 00:17:47,160 I wanted to thank you and all the staff. This has been a really long journey and 176 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,280 It's really a great plan. It's a happy day 177 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,340 And I want to also commend you in the built-in 178 00:17:55,340 --> 00:18:03,680 and re-examination and the implementation, because what good is it if we do it, we spend all the work on it and we do it and we put it on the shelf and we don't come back and revisit it. 179 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,680 So I'm really happy that that was done, I thank you very much. 180 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:15,520 I'll just have two brief comments, first Dave, thank you for your leadership and to the entire team. 181 00:18:16,420 --> 00:18:21,960 It's a great product that you have assembled here for us, so I'm very appreciative of that. 182 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:38,800 Okay. And my second comment is just to the entire board, assuming that we adopt the comp plan at the conclusion of this hearing, for us, it's really not, it's the end of one process, but it's the beginning of another. 183 00:18:39,500 --> 00:18:51,180 And now that all the consultants and the planning commission and staff and our board and previous boards included have kind of left their mark on the comp plan, it's on us. 184 00:18:51,180 --> 00:18:53,540 to make sure that it's implemented. 185 00:18:54,620 --> 00:18:57,660 The 2009 comp plan, if you go back and read it, 186 00:18:58,300 --> 00:19:02,180 calls for a lot of the same changes that are in this comp plan. 187 00:19:02,860 --> 00:19:06,880 And it makes the argument as to why we should zone certain areas, 188 00:19:07,100 --> 00:19:09,380 certain ways, what programs we should look at 189 00:19:09,780 --> 00:19:11,600 for the long-term health of our community. 190 00:19:12,660 --> 00:19:18,000 But the difference is subsequent boards after the 2009 comp plan 191 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:23,340 didn't have the structure to implement it and chose not to implement certain provisions. 192 00:19:23,660 --> 00:19:28,200 So it's great that we have this comprehensive plan before us, but 193 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:34,280 it's on us to provide the direction and make sure that we're implementing the provisions in a timely manner. 194 00:19:34,820 --> 00:19:45,220 So I think that will have just as much of an impact on our community as the long community center development of the complaint. 195 00:19:45,220 --> 00:19:50,880 So I would just ask the board to keep that in mind as we move through the next phase of this long 196 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,140 Project in the best interest of our community. 197 00:19:57,120 --> 00:19:59,900 Thank you commissioners, and I would just observe since 198 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:28,580 Yes, everyone who spoke, each commissioner and Mr. Manhardt have talked about the implementation, just so the public in the audience is aware. A comprehensive plan really is a document that as Dave said is visionary by itself, it really has no teeth or no enforceability. It's the implementation created by the vision of the comp plan that really is where the revered meets the road. That said, I'll now open up to the public, and I think it's appropriate since Mr. Bradbury was already speaking. 199 00:20:28,580 --> 00:20:31,780 he has an opportunity to finish his comments and 200 00:20:35,300 --> 00:20:52,840 I would just as a matter of record note that because this is a public meeting we're now into the public hearing component of it and because the township does record its meetings that what you've said already mark will incorporate into the public hearing. 201 00:20:57,260 --> 00:21:05,280 I think really my ending statement is what this whole conversation is about. 202 00:21:05,380 --> 00:21:08,560 I could get into what I thought about how things should have been done. 203 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:14,800 And I did attend some of the meetings, and I thought it was, you know, quite a gallon 204 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:21,360 effort, especially after all of what I saw was taking place over the years trying to get 205 00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:27,440 different projects done. I'm on the other side. I work with my clients and, of course, I work with the township. 206 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,580 I'm a resident here, so I have a lot of skin in the game. 207 00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,920 My biggest issue with a comprehensive plan, 208 00:21:37,340 --> 00:21:45,320 it's not just with Southwide All Township, it's with any township. It is a device that was put together by 209 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:54,880 people who were educated in various areas of the growth, health, safety, and welfare of our community. 210 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,060 It is a guiding tool. 211 00:22:00,100 --> 00:22:04,820 It should not be wheeled like a sword, and that's the tough part with a comp plan. 212 00:22:05,700 --> 00:22:11,960 What I have found is that book that gets put up on the shelf at whatever 2009. 213 00:22:14,060 --> 00:22:28,860 When the township needed to use it and they would say, well, what you're proposing, doesn't match what we have in our constant comprehensive plan, they pull it out and throw that at my clients or myself and say, that's why we don't want it. 214 00:22:29,940 --> 00:22:39,320 On the other hand, if it didn't agree with the comprehensive plan but it was something that they want it, they would ignore the comprehensive plan. 215 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:43,480 And I would come and say, I would argue, I'd say, well, why are you letting this developer do this? 216 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,680 It's not part of the comprehensive plan, it's totally against it. 217 00:22:47,380 --> 00:22:52,000 So, and I know that Joe was trying to tell people that this is not an ordinance. 218 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,880 This is just a guiding tool. 219 00:22:55,740 --> 00:23:03,360 My biggest concern is the implementation of what's happening next as we re-examming the zoning districts. 220 00:23:03,360 --> 00:23:11,420 districts. Take a look at what we want to change. Obviously, I spoke to, or my clients 221 00:23:11,420 --> 00:23:17,200 spoke to Greg today, and they were talking about different zoning districts. And basically 222 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:22,420 the conversation ended that we're not going to really change the base districts. If you 223 00:23:22,420 --> 00:23:25,800 are of a neighborhood commercial district, it will probably stay neighborhood commercial. 224 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,420 If it's highway commercial, it will probably stay highway commercial. It's residential, 225 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:43,380 Because you don't want to create non-conforming uses by changing a zoning district so that the people that live there have to get a variance every time they want to put up a garage or do something different, which actually happened. 226 00:23:43,500 --> 00:23:45,620 It's a drone, I believe, not too long ago. 227 00:23:46,700 --> 00:23:56,480 But my concern is that those districts will have things added to them that will make 228 00:23:56,480 --> 00:24:01,240 it prohibitive to utilize it the way it's being utilized now. 229 00:24:02,220 --> 00:24:09,820 For example, if you have a neighborhood commercial and the zoning district says you can have 80% 230 00:24:09,820 --> 00:24:10,680 in previous coverage. 231 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,540 Well, now if it falls within the green zone, 232 00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:17,900 you can keep it neighborhood commercial, 233 00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:20,740 but anybody in the future, we only want 20% coverage. 234 00:24:21,220 --> 00:24:22,780 And I'm trying to inform my clients 235 00:24:22,780 --> 00:24:26,300 that even if you're told the district isn't gonna change, 236 00:24:26,900 --> 00:24:29,920 that those are some of the things that can take place 237 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,900 when rezoning occurs or zoning ordinances are amended. 238 00:24:34,740 --> 00:24:39,620 So I just asked this board to please be very careful 239 00:24:39,620 --> 00:24:48,780 and don't use this as a sword. Use it as a guiding tool to guide yourselves and our community and 240 00:24:48,780 --> 00:24:55,540 listen to the community's input before any massive changes take place. On step at a time. 241 00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:59,880 And again, I'm going to try and as things 242 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:29,820 Let's go on. I know I couldn't get to all these comprehensive meetings. It was just went on for so long, but when zoning districts change, I am going to ask that I'm informed with each time a zoning district is going to be modified or amended so that I can come in and at least keep my clients appraised of what could happen. Like I said, real quick, I looked at the 2009 plan and the areas that were shown for future 243 00:25:29,820 --> 00:25:35,520 Your growth are now covered up in areas where they don't want any growth. 244 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:41,120 So if you're a land buyer or your person that lives here in the township, and you think 245 00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:44,720 well, I'm going to look at the comprehensive plan, I'm going to use this as a guide to 246 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:50,780 see how I'm going to structure my life and my business, or what I do for a living, and 247 00:25:50,780 --> 00:25:53,180 all of a sudden the runs pull out from under you. 248 00:25:53,700 --> 00:25:56,500 It's kind of a real slap in the face, it's tough to take. 249 00:25:56,500 --> 00:26:13,440 So, I know this is not a zoning ordinance, but it certainly has enough weight that it can sway or change people's vines as to what shooter shouldn't be done in that particular area of the township. 250 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,540 So, use it as a guide out of sword. 251 00:26:17,100 --> 00:26:19,280 So, I'll ask. Thank you. 252 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:20,220 Thank you. 253 00:26:23,700 --> 00:26:28,700 Is there any on else in the public that has a comment with respect to the conference of plan resolution? 254 00:26:31,620 --> 00:26:33,640 Do we have anyone online that would like to comment? 255 00:26:36,300 --> 00:26:40,440 There's three participants, I'm not seeing any comments or any hands raised. 256 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,060 Give it a second in case someone does want to raise a hand or make a comment. 257 00:26:47,460 --> 00:26:50,780 And once we know for sure, I'm Mr. Bradbury, yes, sir. 258 00:26:53,870 --> 00:26:55,930 Just one last thing real quick. 259 00:26:56,590 --> 00:27:05,890 If I do come in here again with a client who would like a zoning variance or a zoning change or something to do with their property, 260 00:27:06,550 --> 00:27:13,430 I would please ask the township not to tell us the way to the next comprehensive plan comes out so that they can make a decision. 261 00:27:13,790 --> 00:27:22,970 Like I said, some of my clients passed away waiting for it, so it's not as funny as we like to make it seem, but please don't let us do that again. 262 00:27:23,650 --> 00:27:23,950 Thank you. 263 00:27:24,670 --> 00:27:25,370 Thank you. 264 00:27:27,010 --> 00:27:31,050 Chris, are we still a negative on the online participation with the comment? 265 00:27:31,910 --> 00:27:33,490 Yes, yes, there's no comments. 266 00:27:34,370 --> 00:27:37,970 Once again, anyone from the public that would like to speak and address this matter? 267 00:27:38,490 --> 00:27:39,470 Going once, going twice. 268 00:27:40,510 --> 00:27:42,550 No more hands, no more comment from the public. 269 00:27:43,010 --> 00:27:45,990 Are there any final comments or questions from Board of Commissioners? 270 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:51,120 Seeing none, hearing none, I will close- Oh, Chris, did you want to say something? 271 00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:56,500 There was a participant earlier who was in and who just left but came back. 272 00:27:57,060 --> 00:27:59,200 Can we just confirm that there's no? 273 00:27:59,200 --> 00:27:59,540 Please do. 274 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,640 Is there anyone online who wishes to make a comment? 275 00:28:13,700 --> 00:28:16,900 Any final comments or questions from any member of the Board of Commissioners? 276 00:28:18,210 --> 00:28:23,220 Seeing none and having no public comment to add to what's been said already, I'll close this public hearing. 277 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,480 Then I'll turn it back to our Board President if you wish to proceed with entertaining emotion. 278 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,180 action to adopt the resolution I'd be within your rights to do so. 279 00:28:31,860 --> 00:28:33,220 Thank you very much, Attorney Zator. 280 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:39,980 At this time do I have a motion to adopt the plan and 281 00:28:39,980 --> 00:28:43,320 title the 2023 Southway Hall Township Comprehensive Plan? 282 00:28:43,780 --> 00:28:44,140 Some moved. 283 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:44,880 I'll second. 284 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,280 All in favor? 285 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:46,920 Aye. 286 00:28:47,140 --> 00:28:47,320 Aye. 287 00:28:47,780 --> 00:28:48,300 Any opposed? 288 00:28:48,700 --> 00:28:50,220 Motion carries, four to zero. 289 00:28:51,060 --> 00:28:51,720 Thank you. 290 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,280 And thank you again to staff. 291 00:28:53,540 --> 00:28:55,400 Thank you, Mr. Bradbury, for your comments as well. 292 00:28:57,380 --> 00:28:57,820 Thank you. 293 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,340 Congratulations to the staff. 294 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:01,480 Thank you. 295 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,280 I have champagne in the car. 296 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:03,780 Right. 297 00:29:07,660 --> 00:29:09,480 We'll have a little tailgate. 298 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:12,940 You've earned it. 299 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:18,080 Moving along on our agenda, we have Resolution B, a resolution of the Board of Commissioners 300 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:22,260 of Southway Health Township, authorizing the Township Manager to execute an agreement with 301 00:29:22,260 --> 00:29:27,140 Aqua, Pennsylvania, incorporated, providing for a cost-sharing arrangement for road 302 00:29:27,140 --> 00:29:33,020 Good restoration work to occur in South Wales Township, and I will turn this over to our Township Manager, Tom Petrucci. 303 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,600 Thank you, Commissioner Kelly. 304 00:29:35,300 --> 00:29:42,960 If the board is okay with this approach, I'd like to review 7BN7C, both resolutions collectively and ask for separate action on each. 305 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:43,920 That makes sense, sir. 306 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:44,760 Okay, thank you. 307 00:29:45,820 --> 00:29:51,380 So the Township Management is looking to move forward with cost share agreements with both UGI and Aqua. 308 00:29:51,380 --> 00:29:59,960 The cost share agreement with UJI's work for it, they would conduct on the township on various roads, including Huckleberry Road 20- 309 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,880 First Street, 24th Street, Belmont, and North 25th Street portions thereof. The agreement would be for $99,960. The agreement with Aqua is for a water main replacement project to take place at Country Club Gardens, and that agreement would be for $82,320. The overall concept of these agreements is that in lieu of Aqua or UGI, conducting pavement restoration work, the township local forces 310 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,840 is would actually conduct both milling and asphalt resurfacing. 311 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:39,260 And essentially, Aqua and UGI would be paying the township for the materials to conduct that work. 312 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:45,340 And the township would take on the milling as part of its overall milling bid to ensure 313 00:30:45,340 --> 00:30:48,140 that the work is completed in accordance with township specifications. 314 00:30:49,220 --> 00:30:54,780 So these agreements are possible due to the requirements of Chapter 30426, 315 00:30:55,140 --> 00:30:57,480 which is work in street right away, or township in easements. 316 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:05,660 Section J, which specifies when full with paving restoration is work, work is required by the township's street excavation ordinance. 317 00:31:06,380 --> 00:31:12,760 I'd like to thank Herb Bender, Director of Operations for making the contacts with UGI and Aqua. 318 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:19,560 We view this as part of a two-tier process in which the aforementioned ordinance was first adopted in 2019. 319 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:27,060 This is the second part of the process whereby we work with the utility providers to ensure 320 00:31:27,060 --> 00:31:40,460 that the township is getting full with paving restoration to meet its needs and also to ensure that the infrastructure of the township is replaced on an ongoing basis as well by the utility providers. 321 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,360 So it's a win-win for the township, as we view it. Any questions? 322 00:31:48,380 --> 00:31:48,940 I 323 00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:53,610 have a comment, which is can't be taken as a question. 324 00:31:54,010 --> 00:31:59,630 So as I understand the explanation, Tom, actually this is a win for 325 00:31:59,630 --> 00:32:03,770 the rate pairs of both Aqua and UGI, is that correct? 326 00:32:04,250 --> 00:32:07,850 Yes, it's a win-win for the utility providers as well as the talent ship. 327 00:32:08,070 --> 00:32:12,490 So we actually can, it costs them a little bit less. 328 00:32:12,830 --> 00:32:17,850 And then whereby we're actually paying, we're receiving the money to conduct the work at the same time. 329 00:32:19,250 --> 00:32:37,610 The other thing we have to remember is, in the ordinance for the paving requirements where Aqua is putting the water main NUGI, they would only be required to do a half mill and overlay, so now we will be getting full with mill and overlay on these roads. 330 00:32:38,870 --> 00:32:42,810 And includes both the scratch and wearing courses, yes. 331 00:32:43,710 --> 00:32:55,610 So, Herb in taking this on, which I think is very nice, are we subtracting from the schedule that you had planned for the rest of the year on other roads? 332 00:32:56,250 --> 00:32:59,330 No, we will still do our budget, too. 333 00:32:59,550 --> 00:33:05,810 Our full paving this year, and next year, we will incorporate this work to give it one year for full 334 00:33:05,810 --> 00:33:12,390 settlement and then put that in the 2024 budget to pay these roads also. 335 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,100 Very nice, thank you. 336 00:33:18,580 --> 00:33:32,080 My only comment would be I know that the township did paving in house last year in the comments that we received from the residents were so favorable and they were very thankful for job well done. 337 00:33:32,300 --> 00:33:38,710 So I want to praise you and the public works team who took care of that and it's exciting to know that we're 338 00:33:38,710 --> 00:33:42,870 going to be paving all of these roads now in house in that same fashion. 339 00:33:43,310 --> 00:33:44,970 So it's a benefit to our residents as well. 340 00:33:45,290 --> 00:33:45,850 Thank you. 341 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:50,640 I'm from the board. 342 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:52,480 I do have a quick question. 343 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:59,840 When this job is going to be started, residents will have a quick notification, right? 344 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,340 Are you planning to notify them through Nixel and door hangers and so forth? 345 00:34:04,620 --> 00:34:06,620 For the milling and the old road? 346 00:34:06,980 --> 00:34:10,360 Yeah, we're going to follow the same process we do for our in house paving. 347 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,740 Nothing will change for notification of properties or anything. 348 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,740 We will post the streets, we put door hangers out. 349 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,480 We notify 72 hours in advance when we're coming. 350 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,560 Sometimes even more, but yes, they will be no more. 351 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:24,500 Okay, all right, great. 352 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:28,740 And I also wanted to thank you for being so specific with the areas you put the streets. 353 00:34:29,020 --> 00:34:33,680 And it gave me a very clear concise idea of where this was going to happen. 354 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,040 So I appreciate that, thank you. 355 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,440 Any other board coming at this time? 356 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,440 any public comment? Anybody online? 357 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,260 Okay, hearing and seeing none, we'll have to take these 358 00:34:48,260 --> 00:34:55,780 one at a time. Do I have a motion to proceed with a resolution B, providing for the authorization 359 00:34:55,780 --> 00:34:59,920 of the township manager to execute an agreement with AquaPensalvania Incorporated? 360 00:35:01,550 --> 00:35:30,330 Or cost sharing arrangement for road restoration work to occur in South Wales Township. So moved. Second. Motion, the second, all in favor. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries 4-0. Moving on to resolution 7-c. We have a resolution of the Board of Commissioners of South Wales Township authorizing the Township Manager to execute an agreement with UGI Utilities Incorporated, providing for cost sharing arrangement for road restoration work to occur in South Wales Township. 361 00:35:30,330 --> 00:35:32,250 Do I have a motion to approve said resolution? 362 00:35:32,690 --> 00:35:33,410 So moved. 363 00:35:33,630 --> 00:35:34,590 Second, all in favor? 364 00:35:34,970 --> 00:35:35,130 Aye. 365 00:35:35,270 --> 00:35:35,490 Aye. 366 00:35:35,850 --> 00:35:36,270 Any opposed? 367 00:35:36,630 --> 00:35:38,010 The motion carries 4 to 0. 368 00:35:38,870 --> 00:35:39,170 Thank you. 369 00:35:39,290 --> 00:35:41,330 Moving on to agenda item 7D. 370 00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:46,270 We have a resolution at the Board of Commissioners of South Wales Townshipley High County, Pennsylvania 371 00:35:46,270 --> 00:35:51,710 authorizing the Township Manager to execute a utility relocation, occupancy, and cost 372 00:35:51,710 --> 00:35:55,690 sharing agreement with the Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission, and I'll ask our Township 373 00:35:55,690 --> 00:35:56,390 Manager to present. 374 00:35:57,130 --> 00:35:57,430 Thank you. 375 00:35:57,430 --> 00:36:09,270 As part of the Tillman Street Bridge Utility Relocation Project, the township must remove and relocate the sanitary sewer mainline located on the Tillman Street Bridge, which is SR-1,2002. 376 00:36:09,970 --> 00:36:12,630 And it's located over the Pennsylvania Turnpike Northeast Extension. 377 00:36:13,310 --> 00:36:23,970 The Turnpike is commissioned by offering to reimburse the township 50% of the costs associated with the work, minus any betterments and charges for interest on construction money as laid out in the agreement. 378 00:36:23,970 --> 00:36:41,430 The utility relocation occupancy and cost sharing agreement is enclosed for reference the above the resolution authorizes the township manager to execute the agreement on behalf of the township and the agreement that you see is pretty much other standard template boilerplate agreement with the term by commission. 379 00:36:41,910 --> 00:36:46,290 Thank you, Tom. Any board comments or questions on this resolution? 380 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:49,520 Any from the public? 381 00:36:51,540 --> 00:36:54,520 Seeing none, do I have a motion to approve said resolution? 382 00:36:55,860 --> 00:36:57,440 I'll make that motion, is there a second? 383 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:57,860 Second. 384 00:36:58,560 --> 00:36:59,620 I have a motion, a second. 385 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:00,140 All in favor? 386 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:00,700 Aye. 387 00:37:00,940 --> 00:37:01,120 Aye. 388 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:01,920 Any opposed? 389 00:37:02,260 --> 00:37:03,400 Motion carries four to zero. 390 00:37:04,220 --> 00:37:05,520 Moving on to agenda item E. 391 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:09,300 We have a resolution for a 2023 DCNR Community Conservation 392 00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:11,320 Partnership Program Grant Application. 393 00:37:11,860 --> 00:37:12,940 I'll turn it over to Tom. 394 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:15,960 Thank you. 395 00:37:16,380 --> 00:37:21,020 So in talking internally with township staff, including Christopher 396 00:37:21,020 --> 00:37:44,060 for a stroller, long-range planner, we are recommending that the township apply for a $200,000 matching grant to supplement the township's $1 million transportation alternative set aside TASA grant to construct segments 41 to 45 of the Jordan and Creek Greenway, which is from lap road to where Mill Road Incover Bridge Park. 397 00:37:45,140 --> 00:37:53,240 The reason that we are asking to supplement the original $1 million funding is that the costs 398 00:37:53,240 --> 00:38:00,560 of what the final bid will be for this project once the tax grant is actually advertised 399 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:05,980 in the ECMAS system as per Penn.recarments, the final cost is somewhat unknown. 400 00:38:05,980 --> 00:38:19,500 So while we do have an estimate at this time, we're kind of not operating in terms of the hard numbers at this point because we don't have the hard numbers back. 401 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:25,720 So that goes for both the final construction costs as well as the inspection costs. 402 00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:35,340 So roughly, you know, you have your million dollar project and then you have approximately 12% of inspection cost as well, which is $120,000. 403 00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:46,880 So there was always a potential that the grant, the project will come in under bid, but that's highly unlikely in today's environment. 404 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:56,200 So we're trying to supplement the funding with a $200,000 DCNR C2P2 grant, which is the Community Conservation Partnership Program. 405 00:38:58,860 --> 00:39:07,820 So, essentially, we would be using the task of money to match the DCNR grant, so there wouldn't be an additional amount of financial output. 406 00:39:07,820 --> 00:39:18,060 But however, I want to be clear, and we'll also get into this with agenda item 7G that this is a reimbursement grant for the TASA grant. 407 00:39:18,380 --> 00:39:26,420 So that we'll have to put out the money, ensure that that money is provided for in the 2024 budget, and then seek reimbursement through the state. 408 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:37,060 So we're trying to ensure that we are in the best case scenario that we have more than enough funding to account for the entire project. 409 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,240 Thank you, Tom. 410 00:39:40,180 --> 00:39:43,060 Other any board questions on this agenda item? 411 00:39:43,260 --> 00:39:44,020 Commissioner Osborne. 412 00:39:44,300 --> 00:39:45,080 Thank you, Commissioner Kelly. 413 00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,000 Tom, let me not assume I know the answer. 414 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:55,800 So, how was the amount of $200,000 arrived at as far as, you know, for the grant application? 415 00:39:56,340 --> 00:39:57,200 That's a great question. 416 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,960 So basically, 417 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:29,220 Because the inspection costs are estimated to be around $150,000. We kind of use that as the benchmark. There was a little bit of some guesstimation going on. It's not a hard, fast number, but it's basically where we felt comfortable that we wouldn't be asking for too much money, where we could still justify trying to supplement the overall costs of the tassar grant. 418 00:40:29,220 --> 00:40:35,380 And if everything becomes maxed out in terms of construction and the inspection. 419 00:40:36,460 --> 00:40:42,880 If I may add, just so we are working through the design and engineering process now we 420 00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,680 are at 90% engineered. 421 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:50,780 So we do have fairly good cost estimates as of today, but knowing the market materials cost 422 00:40:50,780 --> 00:40:57,400 and the unforeseen ability to get a contractor to come in at our estimated budget. 423 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,920 But as of today, we're looking at roughly around a million dollars for construction alone. 424 00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:07,500 Taking into the fact that as Tom mentioned, we need to look at inspection services. 425 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:13,020 These are things that we would budget for at the end of this year for a 2024 budget. 426 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:24,320 So really the purpose of this grant is just to be proactive if we are looking at that same construction cost plus the construction inspection services that would be required for this project. 427 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,500 These are things we would have to budget for regardless. 428 00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:37,140 So the idea of getting the grant funding, applying for the grant funding now, is we'll know if that's coming out of the township budget, or if we can supplement that cost in 2024. 429 00:41:39,180 --> 00:41:50,040 But again, it's by probably October is when we'll have the project that to bid and we'll look at what the actual estimates will come in from potential contractors. 430 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:52,560 Okay, thank you. 431 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,280 Yeah, they're looking to actually let the project by October. 432 00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,960 So we'll have, they'll open the bids by October. 433 00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:02,700 So we'll have all those numbers available. 434 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,380 Any other forward comments or questions? 435 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,180 Anything from the public? 436 00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:12,620 Mary Ann Singh, none do I have a motion to approve set resolution? 437 00:42:13,140 --> 00:42:13,500 Some move. 438 00:42:14,100 --> 00:42:14,660 I'll second. 439 00:42:14,980 --> 00:42:15,380 All in favor? 440 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:15,960 Aye. 441 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,080 Any opposed? 442 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,840 Motion carries four to zero. 443 00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:19,960 Thank you. 444 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,560 Moving on to agenda item seven. 445 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:29,460 We have a resolution extending the conditional preliminary final approval granted to a major plan entitled proposed parking lot improvements, 446 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:35,200 798 houseman road, turn it over to Greg Adams, planning department. 447 00:42:35,660 --> 00:42:36,000 Thank you. 448 00:42:36,700 --> 00:42:41,420 This is an application to further develop the property located at 798 houseman road. 449 00:42:41,740 --> 00:42:46,440 The plan proposes the construction of a new driveway aisle in the elimination of 13 parking spaces, 450 00:42:47,060 --> 00:42:50,000 stormwater management improvements, and the installation of a new waterline. 451 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:57,120 All on a point 0.81 acre portion of the 6.072 acre site. 452 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:03,300 The Board of Commissioners granted preliminary final approval of the project on February 17th, 2021. 453 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:10,420 On February 2nd, 2022, the Board of Commissioners granted a 12-month extension to the approval of the project. 454 00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:17,480 And a month ago, February 13th, 2023, the Board of Commissioners granted a 30-day extension 455 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:26,100 In order to observe the results of the current effort to bring the 798 houseman buildings water line connection into compliance with the township's regulation. 456 00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:34,420 The applicant's team here is here, here tonight, for an update and to request spoiler alert a three-month extension. 457 00:43:39,450 --> 00:43:41,610 Good evening, Anthony Brickdown, behalf of the- 458 00:43:41,610 --> 00:43:43,110 You just make sure the microphone's on, sir. 459 00:43:43,790 --> 00:43:44,190 Yeah, obviously. 460 00:43:44,330 --> 00:43:44,570 Thank you. 461 00:43:44,570 --> 00:43:50,490 Good evening, thank you for your time, Anthony Brickda, representing Leavale Health Network. 462 00:43:51,090 --> 00:43:59,510 So the recitation by Mr. Adams is correct, basically to bring the board up to date if you're not already aware from materials that were submitted as part of the agenda. 463 00:44:00,270 --> 00:44:09,450 We did attempt to insert and insert a valve at significant cost to separate the water lines, unfortunately it was unsuccessful. 464 00:44:10,130 --> 00:44:22,010 So the status is right now is we're looking for another solution, which I believe is going to require coordination with the township's professional staff to get a meeting to go to the next step. 465 00:44:22,250 --> 00:44:36,110 So we're certainly optimistic that we can solve this in the next month, but we're requesting three months just to avoid having to come back if it's not successful because as the board is aware, it's been particularly costly and difficult process to solve. 466 00:44:36,110 --> 00:44:46,430 So to avoid coming back every month or every meeting, we're asking for the three months with the expectation that it will be resolved before then, just to avoid coming back and taking your time. 467 00:44:47,930 --> 00:44:52,190 We have Zach Lawnsleger from the Health Network to provide a little. 468 00:44:52,190 --> 00:44:52,270 So, 469 00:44:55,930 --> 00:44:58,530 we had a meeting just recently with... 470 00:45:00,430 --> 00:45:31,420 Some of the guys from the public works. So we do have a plan in place to try going out a little further to some other valves to close it. Our problem is we have to make sure that once these lines are separated, we still have enough for our fire suppression system. So that's why we're trying to shut these valves down before we separate the line. But I think we have a pretty good plan in place and hopefully the next week or two. 471 00:45:31,420 --> 00:45:32,160 time 472 00:45:34,370 --> 00:45:36,190 with so we can. 473 00:45:38,750 --> 00:45:39,930 Excellent, thank you. 474 00:45:40,070 --> 00:45:43,110 Herb, did you have anything to add from the township perspective? 475 00:45:44,290 --> 00:45:45,690 No, Zach is correct. 476 00:45:45,950 --> 00:45:49,930 We have been talking almost daily with him coming up with the plan. 477 00:45:50,290 --> 00:45:51,290 He is correct. 478 00:45:51,630 --> 00:45:56,490 An insertion valve is $1,000, a couple of thousands of dollars. 479 00:45:56,830 --> 00:45:57,950 They did try it. 480 00:45:58,010 --> 00:45:59,230 It did not get the shutdown. 481 00:45:59,230 --> 00:46:05,970 down, so now we are going to try shutting two valves down from Luther Crest and one of 482 00:46:05,970 --> 00:46:13,190 our valves down. We believe we were out, exercised our valve already, listened on it, we believe 483 00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:21,690 we have a shutdown on our valve. The next step is to close our valve, close the two valves 484 00:46:21,690 --> 00:46:26,910 that Luther Crest check the hydrant for any flow. If there's no flow at the hydrant, 485 00:46:26,910 --> 00:46:35,370 We leave the two of Luther Cress closed, open our valve, and then we take the fire flow test to make sure they will have enough fire protection. 486 00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:45,470 And then, if they don't, in the meantime, we have to reopen those valves, and then we have to come up with a plan of how they're going to get enough fire suppression. 487 00:46:46,670 --> 00:46:47,870 Very good, thank you, Herb. 488 00:46:48,630 --> 00:46:50,530 I'll open up to the board if there's any questions. 489 00:46:50,530 --> 00:46:52,170 Thank you, Commissioner Kelly. 490 00:46:52,950 --> 00:47:03,570 Just my curiosity, you mentioned that you're unsuccessful in the attempt that you actually told us about a month ago that you're going to give it a shot. 491 00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:15,790 Are there, is the problem that the isolation valves that you needed to hold to execute this project are not holding or what is the engineering issue? 492 00:47:15,790 --> 00:47:22,700 Yeah, the valve center in place aren't holding, so you can't isolate it. 493 00:47:22,860 --> 00:47:28,700 We can't isolate it, and the new plan we came up with is going to actually shut the water down to the whole building. 494 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,380 So we're just trying, that's what's taking time to, just trying to coordinate this. 495 00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,900 What's going to be the fate of the valves that are not holding? 496 00:47:37,380 --> 00:47:43,400 Is that anything within your jurisdiction and can fix now or not? 497 00:47:45,700 --> 00:47:55,120 Without a shutdown? No, they cannot be fixed right now. They have to be able to shut the water down first and then fix everything that would need to be fixed. 498 00:47:55,740 --> 00:48:09,900 But that system is private, where those valves are not holding, so the township, we shouldn't say we don't have any say, we can ask them to fix them but they own those valves. We do not own those valves. 499 00:48:09,900 --> 00:48:12,540 Okay, that was kind of the corollary to my point. 500 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,660 The fate of those vows is not in your hands because they're privately owned. 501 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,180 The isolation vows that are not holding, is that right? 502 00:48:22,060 --> 00:48:23,880 I think you're saying they're not in the townships hands. 503 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:28,520 Yeah, they're not in the townships hands, they would be in LVHN's hands that are not working. 504 00:48:29,140 --> 00:48:34,560 Oh, so LVHN owns the vows that are leaking? 505 00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:38,540 That are not closing all the way, I believe yes. 506 00:48:38,540 --> 00:48:46,340 Yes, yes. Okay, so let me go back to my original question. What's the fee to those valves that you can fix or replace? 507 00:48:47,940 --> 00:48:50,700 Is that of importance at all in this topic? 508 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,640 I mean, yeah, we would like to get them replaced. 509 00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:01,080 We just have to make sure that there's one step further you can go where their valves don't close. 510 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:01,420 Yes. 511 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:09,620 We hold the master valve outside of their area that we can close to close the water off at that time. 512 00:49:09,740 --> 00:49:10,200 No, that has to work. 513 00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:11,540 Our valve has to work. 514 00:49:11,780 --> 00:49:11,960 Yes. 515 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:13,120 We need to go back. 516 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:14,240 Correct. 517 00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:15,120 Okay. 518 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,360 Maybe it was a convoluted way of getting to it, but that was my question. 519 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,400 The valves that are won't close fully. 520 00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:28,220 You intend to replace them as long as you can get a clean shot off upstream of them? 521 00:49:29,100 --> 00:49:31,960 Yeah, that would, that would be the, the phytoplane, yeah. 522 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,080 And that can all be accomplished in the next three months, possibly? 523 00:49:37,180 --> 00:49:41,880 Well, the thing that we're talking about right now is just getting the separation. 524 00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:42,360 Right. 525 00:49:42,620 --> 00:49:46,120 That's the biggest thing that they get off of the Luther Cress lines. 526 00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,160 So that's what we're trying to accomplish first. 527 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:49,480 Yeah. 528 00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:54,460 Once that is done, they have complied with the township regulations. 529 00:49:54,460 --> 00:49:59,860 So then, for them, the repair of the valves would be on them to repair. 530 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:00,680 There are valves. 531 00:50:03,130 --> 00:50:30,390 And once those lines are separated, some of those valves are irrelevant at that. Correct. Yeah, I can picture that. Okay. Thank you. Thanks for indulging me. We have a comment from the board. Hasn't been an easy road for you. And I wish you the best. I really do. Good luck. Any public comment on this resolution? Hearing and seeing none, drive a motion to approve said resolution? Second. 532 00:50:30,390 --> 00:50:32,110 In the second, all in favor? 533 00:50:32,390 --> 00:50:32,550 Aye. 534 00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:33,130 Aye. 535 00:50:33,790 --> 00:50:34,230 Any opposed? 536 00:50:34,530 --> 00:50:35,810 Motion carries 4 to 0. 537 00:50:36,250 --> 00:50:36,650 Thank you, gentlemen. 538 00:50:38,090 --> 00:50:40,370 Moving on to agenda item 7G. 539 00:50:40,550 --> 00:50:44,630 We have a resolution of the Board of Commissioners of South Wales Townshipley High County, Pennsylvania. 540 00:50:45,130 --> 00:50:49,250 Authorizing the execution of an agreement with the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation 541 00:50:49,250 --> 00:50:55,450 for acceptance of transportation alternative side funds for the Jordan Creek Greenway and covered bridge park. 542 00:50:55,810 --> 00:50:57,190 I'll turn it over to Tom Petrucci. 543 00:50:57,490 --> 00:50:58,210 Thank you. 544 00:50:58,790 --> 00:51:09,230 As previously mentioned, this is for the TASA grant for the Jordan Creek Greenway from Wear Mill Road to LAP Road through Coverage Bridge Park. 545 00:51:09,650 --> 00:51:19,570 I wanted to very strongly point out the fact that this is a reimbursement grant for a million dollars whereby the township needs to put out the funds and then we seek reimbursement. 546 00:51:19,570 --> 00:51:26,690 So basically the township has been diligently working with its consultant, Michael Baker International, 547 00:51:27,570 --> 00:51:32,610 to go through the various administrative requirements with respect to environmental 548 00:51:32,610 --> 00:51:39,790 clearances, utility clearances, ownership, title clearances, in order to let this project 549 00:51:40,070 --> 00:51:42,210 through PennDOT's ECMS system. 550 00:51:42,990 --> 00:51:49,090 So the project manager who's Christie Barry from McCormick Taylor has given the green light 551 00:51:49,090 --> 00:51:53,810 for the township to sign the reimbursement agreement to allow the next steps in the project 552 00:51:53,810 --> 00:52:01,130 to commence, which would be the bidding of the project by August with the opening in 553 00:52:01,130 --> 00:52:08,130 October. Basically, from the date of the execution of the agreement, the township has five years 554 00:52:08,130 --> 00:52:14,850 to complete the work. We hope to be well before that completion date, as previously noted, 555 00:52:14,850 --> 00:52:18,090 of the bulk of the work will be completed in 2024. 556 00:52:20,290 --> 00:52:25,810 So basically, we're confident that we are moving in the right direction with respect 557 00:52:25,810 --> 00:52:27,310 to all the aforementioned clearances. 558 00:52:27,730 --> 00:52:36,290 We don't anticipate any type of legal issues with getting those, obtaining those clearances. 559 00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:42,870 I would say at this point, we're close to 90 to 98% done with all of that work. 560 00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:51,790 And once we get the green light to proceed with the bid, most of that underlying work has already been conducted by the consultant. 561 00:52:52,590 --> 00:52:54,550 So we are actually had a schedule. 562 00:52:55,670 --> 00:52:56,870 Excellent, thank you, Tom. 563 00:52:58,230 --> 00:53:01,190 I just had a question on the reimbursement portion. 564 00:53:01,630 --> 00:53:07,890 I understand that the township will have to fund the project and then be reimbursed by the state. 565 00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:16,210 Do we send our reimbursement requests in as we are invoiced by the different contractors? 566 00:53:16,910 --> 00:53:19,570 Is it quarterly or is it when the project is done? 567 00:53:19,750 --> 00:53:24,510 Give me a sense if you could of how this would work to first to get the reimbursement. 568 00:53:24,550 --> 00:53:25,510 There is a schedule. 569 00:53:26,570 --> 00:53:30,010 I'm not sure, I don't think it's every invoice that's put in its more enthased projects. 570 00:53:32,290 --> 00:53:59,750 The most important thing is the pen dot review of the reimbursement, so we'll often probably finish the section of work, send that into pen dot, their review could take a little longer, and I'm sure by that time, we'll send in another reimbursement, so it's important for us to budget appropriately so that we can understand that we will have open bills that the township will need to pay until we get each phase back, but it's to the best of my knowledge, it's not a 571 00:53:59,750 --> 00:54:05,530 100% reimbursement, it is in sections, 100% at one time, I should say. 572 00:54:05,850 --> 00:54:13,830 Yeah, looking back at the last tax agreement we had, I'd have to say it's closer to like more like a quarterly reimbursement to give you a time frame. 573 00:54:13,830 --> 00:54:22,810 It wasn't like an actual hard deadline, but it seemed to me like we were getting payments at least court on a quarterly basis. 574 00:54:23,150 --> 00:54:26,390 And was the last tax agreement for the first segment of the greenway? 575 00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:37,750 It was, it was about $567,000 and we did successfully complete that grant and we did confirm we received all of the funding that we were supposed to. 576 00:54:38,170 --> 00:54:49,830 So the townships, we at least have the administrative background even though it might have been different people working on it, but we do have the background of already having gone through this process. 577 00:54:50,490 --> 00:54:51,590 Thank you very much. 578 00:54:52,510 --> 00:54:55,030 Any other comments or questions from the board? 579 00:54:55,970 --> 00:54:57,070 Any from the public? 580 00:54:58,450 --> 00:54:59,970 Hearing and seeing none do I have a mo- 581 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,780 Motion to proceed with said resolution. 582 00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:12,220 motion. motion. motion. second, all in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries 4-0. Thank you. 583 00:55:12,220 --> 00:55:15,640 Moving on to agenda, we're going to skip down to motions. 584 00:55:16,300 --> 00:55:18,360 Board of motion 8A, 585 00:55:21,380 --> 00:55:33,720 number Collins, Captain Brown to assist with a motion to proceed with the adoption of the entire civil service eligibility list for patrol officer in the software health township police department. 586 00:55:33,720 --> 00:55:35,440 Yes, good evening, the commissioners. 587 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:41,980 The police department has conducted civil service testing for entry-level patrol officer via the Leia County Chiefs Association Consortium Test. 588 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:49,360 All aspects of the testing process have been completed to include a physical assessment, written examination and oral examination. 589 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:54,960 The Civil Service Commission has certified the eligibility list on Wednesday, March 8, 2023. 590 00:55:55,500 --> 00:55:57,260 There is no expense to this testing process. 591 00:55:57,940 --> 00:56:01,700 I am requesting the Board of Commissioner to make a motion to adopt a newly certified 592 00:56:01,700 --> 00:56:03,680 civil service list for entry-level patrol. 593 00:56:04,980 --> 00:56:06,020 Thank you, Captain Run. 594 00:56:06,660 --> 00:56:08,360 Any questions or comments from the Board? 595 00:56:09,820 --> 00:56:10,900 Anything from the public? 596 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:12,580 Hearing anything, none. 597 00:56:12,660 --> 00:56:14,600 We have a motion to approve said motion. 598 00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:15,620 Some moved. 599 00:56:15,900 --> 00:56:16,280 I'll second. 600 00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:17,120 All in favor? 601 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:17,560 Aye. 602 00:56:17,820 --> 00:56:18,060 Aye. 603 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:18,840 Any opposed? 604 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:20,760 Motion carries 4-0. 605 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:21,800 Thank you. 606 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,840 I'm going to go back up then to Resolutions, Agenda Item 7-H. 607 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:36,900 We have a resolution extending conditional offers of employment for the entry level position of patrol officer in the township's police department to candidates number 6-3-3-2-3, 608 00:56:37,500 --> 00:56:52,200 number 8-0-8-4-6, and number 6-6-1-1-7, conditioned upon the individual's satisfactorily completing medical and psychological examinations to confirm their fitness for duty, and I'll again turn this over to Captain Brown. 609 00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:59,620 Yes, the police department is in the hiring process for vacant entry level patrol officers. 610 00:56:59,620 --> 00:57:04,300 We have three positions open via civil service guidelines and need the board of commissioners 611 00:57:04,300 --> 00:57:08,560 to extend the conditional offer of employment to the next eligible candidates on the civil service list. 612 00:57:09,340 --> 00:57:12,940 Thank you, Captain Ron, for any board, comment or questions on this agenda item. 613 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:14,620 Any from the public? 614 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,080 Hearing and seeing none, do I have a motion to approve said motion? 615 00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,280 I'll make that motion, is there a second? 616 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,120 Second, motion in a second on the floor, all in favor? 617 00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:25,000 Aye. 618 00:57:25,300 --> 00:57:25,940 Any opposed? 619 00:57:26,260 --> 00:57:27,800 Motion carries, 4 to 0. 620 00:57:28,140 --> 00:57:28,900 Thank you, Captain Rahm. 621 00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:34,340 Jumping back down to motions at motion 8b. 622 00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,940 We have a motion to approve no trespassing markings signage 623 00:57:37,940 --> 00:57:42,120 at Davis Smith Open Space Property at 1036 Springhouse Road. 624 00:57:42,700 --> 00:57:44,120 And the last temperature to present. 625 00:57:44,820 --> 00:57:45,580 Thank you. 626 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,280 So basically, recently the township received an inquiry 627 00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:58,720 as to whether a resident could basically traverse the Davis Smith open space property. 628 00:57:59,260 --> 00:58:07,020 And the answer has to be no because the Davis Smith open space property is currently set 629 00:58:07,020 --> 00:58:07,880 up as an active farm. 630 00:58:07,900 --> 00:58:13,800 It's really not a township park or a place of a public gathering location. 631 00:58:15,180 --> 00:58:19,600 So generally as property owners, the township is required to maintain the Davis Smith open 632 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:24,720 in space property in a relatively safe condition so that people who come on to the property do not suffer an injury. 633 00:58:25,380 --> 00:58:33,100 The degree of liability would depend on the legal status of the visitor, the condition of the property, and the actions of both the owner and the visitor. 634 00:58:33,700 --> 00:58:41,240 Or if the person is injured as a trespasser or a child, or whether the both the owner and the visitor are at fault for an injury. 635 00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:49,100 In this case, the township is not permitting public access, so visitors to the property are considered trespassers. 636 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:54,700 I know it's like a negative connotation word, but that's what they would be considered. 637 00:58:56,020 --> 00:58:59,880 In other words, you're entering the property without any right to do so. 638 00:59:00,420 --> 00:59:03,680 So there's no implied promise that the property is considered safe. 639 00:59:04,100 --> 00:59:10,760 As it is likely that people could enter the property, then the township has a duty to give reasonable warning to prevent injury. 640 00:59:11,340 --> 00:59:16,520 Under Title 18, the state crimes code, it gives lands owners the option of using purple paint, 641 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:23,020 rather than signs to post their properties as prescribed by a law, and alert others that lands are private and 642 00:59:23,020 --> 00:59:24,400 trespassing is not permitted. 643 00:59:24,660 --> 00:59:26,680 This law went into effect in 2020. 644 00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:45,560 In talking over this with Township Staff, the recommendation is to use a combination of purple paint, as well as signage, indicating that the property is an active farm, and that's the reason why it is being posted as a no trespassing location. 645 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:53,980 And the idea would be to post the more direct signage at areas where there's easy access 646 00:59:53,980 --> 00:59:54,840 to the property. 647 00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:59,820 and other locations we would use the purple paint primarily along the split rail fence. 648 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,940 Entries that are on the property. And the purple lines must be eight inches long and one inch wide. And the bottom of the mark must be no less than three feet or more than five feet from the ground. And paid in marks are not more than a hundred feet apart. With that, I would seek to allow us to go forward with that plan. Thank you, Tom. Thank you for bringing us to the board's attention. And for seeking out 649 01:00:29,940 --> 01:00:35,540 a solution to a resident's question on this property, I had personally never heard of 650 01:00:35,540 --> 01:00:39,960 the purple law, and I appreciate that you're going to use a combination of both signs 651 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:45,700 and the purple paint for those who may not be aware. So I'll open up any other questions 652 01:00:45,700 --> 01:00:53,720 from the board. I do have a question, a comment, I guess. I'm glad to that you're using both. 653 01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,020 Oh, it is a question. 654 01:00:55,740 --> 01:01:00,860 Will this maybe be advertised on the website so people know this is what it is because 655 01:01:00,860 --> 01:01:04,740 honestly, before tonight's meeting, I didn't know what the purple paint wall was either. 656 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:12,480 Yeah, we can certainly do that even using the diagram that we had in the packet, which 657 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,880 I think is very informative and very clear and concise. 658 01:01:15,620 --> 01:01:16,200 Thank you. 659 01:01:17,420 --> 01:01:18,560 I just have one question. 660 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:25,100 question. I know you mentioned this came from a resident question, but have we had a problem 661 01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:29,580 with dress passers on this property? I don't know if we're necessarily monitoring that. 662 01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:34,360 But has there been a lot of foot traffic on to the property since the attention required it? 663 01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:40,260 No, no, not to my knowledge. We're just trying to be proactive. But the resident in question did ask 664 01:01:40,260 --> 01:01:45,520 if they're not allowed to go to be at the property? Why is it not posted as such? Which I thought 665 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:46,720 What was a valid question? 666 01:01:50,830 --> 01:01:52,110 Come to the microphone please. 667 01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,560 Michael Hirsch, I love on Lowell Street. 668 01:01:59,700 --> 01:02:03,360 I just thought when the township owned the property, 669 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,580 maybe we would get a chance to have a sidewalk. 670 01:02:06,980 --> 01:02:10,280 The public walks on Springhouse Road to the synagogue, 671 01:02:11,540 --> 01:02:14,300 Westwood Heights, Springhouse Middle School. 672 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,800 And I thought that would be an opportunity to have a trail 673 01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,520 or something, and we're gonna have a fence 674 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,740 where the purple is going to go. 675 01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:32,140 So with regard to any improvements in that area, part of the deed restriction on that 676 01:02:32,140 --> 01:02:37,620 property is one of the exceptions is the township can put in a perimeter trail. 677 01:02:38,500 --> 01:02:46,240 And since that perimeter trail is not in place, it's not safe, and it's active agriculture 678 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,420 culture so who knows what it's really out there. 679 01:02:49,580 --> 01:02:51,580 So that's why we're doing that now. 680 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,620 With regard to sidewalks, 681 01:02:55,060 --> 01:02:57,580 that area has come up in conversations 682 01:02:57,980 --> 01:03:01,600 as part of our newly adopted comprehensive plan. 683 01:03:04,540 --> 01:03:07,680 So it's definitely an area that's on our radar 684 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,420 and one of the implementation items 685 01:03:10,420 --> 01:03:12,360 is an active transportation plan. 686 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:16,700 and so that talks about bicycling and pedestrians 687 01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,260 and making connections and corridors 688 01:03:20,260 --> 01:03:23,360 and things areas that connect, 689 01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,400 in this case, a potential recreation area 690 01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,220 to a school in neighborhoods. 691 01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:33,880 So it's something that, as I kind of alluded to earlier, 692 01:03:34,140 --> 01:03:38,320 is establishing the process for getting these things implemented. 693 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:46,040 You know, we'll study, we'll make these recommendations and then eventually they get to cap 694 01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,920 on improvements and we can start looking for grants to do things like that. 695 01:03:50,780 --> 01:03:53,420 Yes, I won't advocate on your person. 696 01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:54,400 I'm there too. 697 01:03:54,980 --> 01:03:56,180 Thank you for your question. 698 01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,540 So any other public comment on this motion? 699 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:03,920 Any from the public online? 700 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:05,660 None online? 701 01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:06,560 Nothing. 702 01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,700 At this time do we have a motion to approve said motion? 703 01:04:11,700 --> 01:04:14,400 A second, all in favor? 704 01:04:14,740 --> 01:04:14,920 Aye. 705 01:04:15,060 --> 01:04:15,400 Aye. 706 01:04:15,700 --> 01:04:16,080 Any opposed? 707 01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:17,740 Motion carries, 4 to 0. 708 01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,500 Moving on to agenda item 8C. 709 01:04:20,500 --> 01:04:25,320 We have a motion to proceed with the installation of three temporary sewer meters at Dornie Park. 710 01:04:25,740 --> 01:04:28,820 And I'll ask our director of township operations her vendor to present. 711 01:04:30,700 --> 01:04:30,880 Yes. 712 01:04:31,140 --> 01:04:36,440 Public work sewer division is respectfully asking permission to move forward with installing three 713 01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:42,040 temporary sewer meters just outside Dornie Park to make sure the sewer readings are 714 01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,320 We are coinciding with the water meter readings. 715 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:49,100 Basin 51 is one of the basins we have significant eye and eye, 716 01:04:49,500 --> 01:04:50,920 getting into the sewer lines. 717 01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:56,000 Attached to the memo is a map of where the temporary meters would be installed. 718 01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,340 We have solicited two quotes. 719 01:04:58,540 --> 01:04:59,980 One was from Mr. Rehab. 720 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:29,900 For $13,050, and the other quote was from Flow Assessment Services for $28,950. These meters will be installed for three months, April, May, and June for the wet weather conditions and months. The action we're requesting is approving a motion to proceed with installing three temporary sewer meters. And this money will be taken out of the EPA sanitary 721 01:05:29,900 --> 01:05:35,020 We sue our repairs capital, which was budgeted for $285,000. 722 01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:48,700 The reason we will be fine to cover this $13,050 is we have done most of our work in the presidential area that was supposed to be outsourced to a contractor. 723 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:54,480 We have done it all in-house, so we have saved significant amount of money doing that already. 724 01:05:54,480 --> 01:06:01,240 And with talking to Dornie Park, they are an agreeance to pay for 50% of these meters also. 725 01:06:02,140 --> 01:06:06,200 So our portion will only be half of that $13,050. 726 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:08,440 Thank you, Herb. 727 01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:12,860 And thank you for working with Dornie Park to partner with the township for this. 728 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,040 One of our other questions or comments on this agenda item. 729 01:06:18,020 --> 01:06:22,100 I had one comment, I just thought it was a big gap between the two estimates. 730 01:06:22,940 --> 01:06:28,200 Yeah, there's other companies out there, but these two are very good at it, and we want 731 01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:33,420 to get precise numbers since this is part of the Climb's Island problem and the I and 732 01:06:33,420 --> 01:06:36,760 I, so we want to get very good data. 733 01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:37,340 Any 734 01:06:40,090 --> 01:06:41,070 other comments from the board? 735 01:06:41,990 --> 01:06:42,790 Any from the public? 736 01:06:43,570 --> 01:06:46,090 Hearing and seeing none, do I have a motion to proceed with said motion? 737 01:06:47,250 --> 01:06:48,410 I'll make that motion, is there a second? 738 01:06:48,570 --> 01:06:48,850 Second. 739 01:06:49,450 --> 01:06:50,210 All in favor? 740 01:06:50,750 --> 01:06:50,910 Aye. 741 01:06:51,030 --> 01:06:51,250 Aye. 742 01:06:51,630 --> 01:06:52,110 Any opposed? 743 01:06:52,110 --> 01:06:53,750 motion carries 4 to 0. 744 01:06:53,970 --> 01:06:55,230 Moving on to agenda item 9. 745 01:06:55,830 --> 01:06:58,350 Thank you, her correspondence and information items. 746 01:06:58,590 --> 01:07:01,290 I'll turn it over to Tom to review our upcoming meetings. 747 01:07:02,750 --> 01:07:03,430 Thank you. 748 01:07:07,690 --> 01:07:08,570 Lost on the area. 749 01:07:09,410 --> 01:07:12,150 Okay, upcoming meetings for which the details are posted 750 01:07:12,150 --> 01:07:15,750 on the website, or as follows, Thursday, March 16th, 751 01:07:15,750 --> 01:07:18,370 7.30 p.m. tomorrow, the Planning Commission, 752 01:07:19,150 --> 01:07:21,830 Monday, March 20th, 6 p.m., the Green Advisory Council, 753 01:07:21,830 --> 01:07:28,730 Also Tuesday, March 21st, 6 p.m. crime watch meeting and Wednesday, March 22nd, 7 p.m. zoning 754 01:07:28,730 --> 01:07:31,950 hearing board. All meetings will be held here at the township. 755 01:07:32,730 --> 01:07:37,210 Excellent, thank you. Moving on to agenda item 10, direction and discussion. 756 01:07:37,410 --> 01:07:42,130 agenda item A, we have the resignation of a planning commission member effective early 757 01:07:42,130 --> 01:07:45,030 June of 2023 and Tom, if you'd present. 758 01:07:46,670 --> 01:07:47,490 Thank you. 759 01:07:48,170 --> 01:07:54,490 Yes, so we have received one notice that a Township Planning Commission member is going 760 01:07:54,490 --> 01:08:01,170 to be moving out of the Township effective in the beginning of June, so then I am seeking 761 01:08:01,170 --> 01:08:08,170 at this point permission to proceed in accordance with the citizen advisory policy to advertise 762 01:08:08,170 --> 01:08:12,070 for that notice of position on both the Township website as well as the Parkland Press and 763 01:08:12,070 --> 01:08:21,370 to try to gain applications for which an interview would be scheduled at a later date at a subsequent public meeting of the board. 764 01:08:21,790 --> 01:08:28,130 Excellent. I'm just curious, is it too late to put an announcement in the newsletter that's going out? 765 01:08:28,710 --> 01:08:41,350 I don't believe it's too late, so the only question would be when the newsletter is going out, it may not hit and it's going to hit right probably at the same time when you're maybe conducting interviews. 766 01:08:41,350 --> 01:08:42,510 That would be my only concern. 767 01:08:46,100 --> 01:08:48,220 Any board comments on this agenda? 768 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:55,880 My only question is, are we allowed to conduct interviews before the resignation is effective in early June? 769 01:08:56,060 --> 01:09:01,540 Or will we have to wait until the resignation is effective before we? 770 01:09:02,620 --> 01:09:05,480 I think you can accept the resignation at any time. 771 01:09:06,820 --> 01:09:13,720 So, I mean to me, I think you have to be proactive because the planning commission is a very important agency of the talent ship. 772 01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:20,000 So unless Attorney Zaydor sees a problem with it, I personally can identify an issue with it. 773 01:09:20,180 --> 01:09:24,980 I agree with the Township Manager, not only is it prudent, but there's no legal impediment to proceeding that way. 774 01:09:29,150 --> 01:09:30,090 I have no feedback. 775 01:09:30,290 --> 01:09:34,310 I think it's the plan that you have in place to go ahead and proceed is excellent. 776 01:09:35,450 --> 01:09:38,810 Any other comment from the board for direction? 777 01:09:42,010 --> 01:09:45,010 Moving on to agenda item 10B. 778 01:09:45,010 --> 01:09:50,130 The Ridge Farms Phase 1 signalized intersection plans to see the crystal of art and 779 01:09:50,130 --> 01:09:55,130 Walbert Avenue confirmation of powder-coded black color for mast, arms, poles, and all 780 01:09:55,130 --> 01:09:55,970 other components. 781 01:09:56,910 --> 01:09:58,690 I'll ask our township managers to present. 782 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:29,680 Thank you. So, as part of the HOP work for rich farms, the developer, K Walbert, has agreed to provide powder coded, mass storms, poles, as well as controller, and all other associated equipment for the signalized intersection upgrades that are slated to take place at that location. I wanted to just make sure the board was aware of this, and that it is the intention of the township to try to seek 783 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:39,160 to allow for this type of aesthetic upgrade for all signalized intersections in the future along that corridor, if possible. 784 01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:48,020 And assuming no objections to this, we would then notify the developer to go ahead and order the items, 785 01:10:48,440 --> 01:10:51,460 especially given the long lead time for these items. 786 01:10:52,420 --> 01:10:54,540 Thank you for bringing that to our attention. 787 01:10:55,020 --> 01:10:56,100 I'm certainly in favor of this. 788 01:10:56,260 --> 01:11:00,080 I think it'll be a great upgrade aesthetically for the township. 789 01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,580 Any other comment from the board? 790 01:11:04,380 --> 01:11:04,820 I have a comment. 791 01:11:05,020 --> 01:11:06,000 Thank you, Commissioner Kelly. 792 01:11:06,900 --> 01:11:08,480 Tom, thank you for the explanation. 793 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:13,580 I really, you know, we talk about the comprehensive plan and 794 01:11:13,580 --> 01:11:17,620 consideration of zoning, rezoning, amended zoning. 795 01:11:17,620 --> 01:11:26,440 But one of the things that often gets overlooked is the aesthetics of what it is that is legally allowed to be placed where it's placed. 796 01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:31,760 This to me is such a nice thing to start. 797 01:11:33,620 --> 01:11:39,540 As I travel west on 22, get off on Cedar Cress Boulevard. 798 01:11:39,700 --> 01:11:44,560 What I see to the right is not a very nice entrance into South Whitehall. 799 01:11:44,560 --> 01:12:01,480 We can't do anything about that, but what we can do is what you're doing, and that is the next major intersection after that going north on Cedar Crest can have a nice aesthetic look, especially if we can make it uniform, you know, as it applies. 800 01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:09,560 That's something that we can do that adds a lot of attractiveness to the township. 801 01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:16,460 So thank you very much to you and staff for thinking about that because it's often overlooked, but it really is so important. 802 01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,820 It's part branding, too, in a way, right? 803 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,780 We did ask for it as well for the 3-0-9 Betterment Project. 804 01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,740 I don't believe we've received confirmation on that to date, have we? 805 01:12:28,860 --> 01:12:38,060 So they did ask for the specs for it, and the idea is to ask for the corridor. 806 01:12:38,060 --> 01:13:01,000 So it would start with the Walbert 309 and then as we go down or make upgrades or grant funding becomes available, we have all of our lights in the palm along this cord or as a starting point in that uniform color is kind of the intent. 807 01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:07,780 And so the Pendot is receptive to including that at that intersection. 808 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:14,600 We'll see how that goes, but as of right now, they are receptive to it. 809 01:13:17,700 --> 01:13:21,520 I think, and I talked my only with Dave and I think Tom and her too. 810 01:13:21,740 --> 01:13:28,680 I think that we've asked for it and Rich Farm said, okay, which was great. 811 01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:32,460 Is it benefit to the township, but I think that if, you know, 812 01:13:32,460 --> 01:13:37,560 the township or the board chooses to, we can implement this by adding into our standard 813 01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:43,820 construction documents. So instead of it being an ask and either someone saying no, or we don't 814 01:13:43,820 --> 01:13:51,400 want to, we can almost make it a standard. So I think that probably with staff's help developing 815 01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:56,780 either a plan of this is a corridor we want from here to here or from here to here and we want 816 01:13:56,780 --> 01:14:02,160 to do this one too. Or we want to do all of them in the township however it comes out, we 817 01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:09,580 could add that to the construction specifications and then it gets adopted and then it's, I don't 818 01:14:09,580 --> 01:14:13,460 want to say instant, but almost instant from that point forward that the developers are, 819 01:14:13,740 --> 01:14:16,100 it's a requirement rather than a, an ask. 820 01:14:16,860 --> 01:14:24,520 So I think that thought behind the board, if you see corridors, I think a corridor's, that 821 01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,440 would be a great way to start the process. 822 01:14:27,100 --> 01:14:33,860 Thank you for adding that Tommy I appreciate that comment and I would certainly be an agreement to looking into that as a standard. 823 01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:43,520 We're actually in the process of working with Tony's office to update the many specifications for the construction standards so that will be a future agenda item in the near future. 824 01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,440 And one of the things he talked about in the Newly Adoptic 825 01:14:46,440 --> 01:14:53,120 Plan was the looking at corridors and, you know, identifying 826 01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:58,440 areas that are appropriate for enhanced streetscape, like 827 01:14:58,440 --> 01:14:59,020 poles. 828 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:09,200 All that. So, that's incorporated in that plan. Very exciting things. So, that's coming in the implementation of the newly adopted plan. 829 01:15:13,970 --> 01:15:32,590 There's no other comments moving on to direction and discussion item c, solid waste, recycling contract with waste management, notification of termination of current contract, effective 12, 31, 20, 23, and temperature, if you'd please present. Thank you. So, no official action is requested. 830 01:15:32,590 --> 01:15:39,110 from the board this evening, but I did want to update you that pursue into the legal contract 831 01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:44,390 between the Township and Waste Management. Waste Management has provided a certified letter 832 01:15:44,390 --> 01:15:48,310 that they will not be extending the Township's current solid waste and recycling contract, 833 01:15:48,530 --> 01:15:56,150 the beyond the end of 2023. The reasons that were cited included external and economic factors. 834 01:15:56,910 --> 01:16:03,770 So the township will have to proceed with the new bid, so that we are ensuring that as 835 01:16:03,770 --> 01:16:07,570 of 1-1-20-24, that we have a contract in place. 836 01:16:08,750 --> 01:16:14,130 To that effect, I have assembled a task force consisting of the employees that have the 837 01:16:14,130 --> 01:16:19,490 most direct knowledge of the operation of the current contract and can provide valuable 838 01:16:19,490 --> 01:16:25,430 input to the township and how the service options should be construed for the next contract. 839 01:16:25,430 --> 01:16:32,470 So with that, we will be working to provide you with options for your consideration at subsequent meetings. 840 01:16:33,410 --> 01:16:40,990 And the intent would be to revise the specifications and then have them go before the board as well as a legal review. 841 01:16:42,350 --> 01:16:50,430 Excellent Tom, thank you, thank you for bringing that to our attention and we certainly do look forward to future information as you and the task force move forward with this. 842 01:16:50,430 --> 01:16:53,770 Any other board comment on this agenda item? 843 01:16:54,330 --> 01:16:57,110 Okay, moving on to direction and discussion item D. 844 01:16:57,750 --> 01:17:06,630 Ridge Farms, K-builders, Wallward Avenue, and Cedocrestville of our HOP Improvement Project noise ordinance overnight construction operations request. 845 01:17:07,330 --> 01:17:09,850 Tom, I will ask you to present on this as well. 846 01:17:10,730 --> 01:17:11,250 Thank you. 847 01:17:11,830 --> 01:17:16,230 So for the Ridge Farm phase one project, the HOP has been approved. 848 01:17:16,230 --> 01:17:25,090 The first phase of the work includes stormwater piping to run across Walbert Avenue at four locations at Walbert Avenue in Cedar Crust Boulevard. 849 01:17:26,310 --> 01:17:37,810 Due to the anticipated traffic congestion for these pipe crossing installations, Ridge Farm is requesting to mitigate traffic delays by working overnight. 850 01:17:41,050 --> 01:17:47,750 primarily the time period of working would be limited to 9 p.m. the 12 a.m. and 4 a.m. 851 01:17:47,750 --> 01:17:54,710 to 7 a.m. So there will be some type of use of hydraulic hammers, saw cutting with the 852 01:17:54,710 --> 01:18:03,010 roadway as well as general excavation type of equipment in use. However, as part of that, 853 01:18:03,670 --> 01:18:08,710 You know, there's also a plan in place whereby, you know, dumb trucks would not be permitted 854 01:18:08,710 --> 01:18:13,590 to swing the tailgates and assist in dumping material from their better chassis, which 855 01:18:13,590 --> 01:18:17,010 can be very, as if you've heard it, very disturbing sounds. 856 01:18:18,190 --> 01:18:25,070 You know, basically, tamping machines would be used solely for compaction materials. 857 01:18:25,270 --> 01:18:28,610 They're trying to minimize the disturbance as much as they can. 858 01:18:31,090 --> 01:18:33,910 Herbender and I did look at the HOP itself. 859 01:18:35,630 --> 01:18:44,630 Basically, the developer is not permitted to restrict traffic during AM or PM rush hour 860 01:18:44,630 --> 01:18:50,630 times anyway, so this night work is almost essential in that case in order for them to proceed 861 01:18:50,630 --> 01:18:51,190 with the work. 862 01:18:51,190 --> 01:19:03,180 work, the township views the overnight work as a compromise in terms of not impacting 863 01:19:03,180 --> 01:19:12,140 the corridor with traffic during the day, which would be more of a impact to the overall 864 01:19:12,140 --> 01:19:12,660 township. 865 01:19:14,060 --> 01:19:22,520 So to that effect, we would be notifying any impacted areas, which would be primarily 866 01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:29,520 long like Shenandoah Court, the homes that are located there, in order to try to make 867 01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:37,020 sure that everyone's aware of this work taking place. Her vendor has implemented a schedule 868 01:19:37,020 --> 01:19:44,480 whereby his either himself or other employees would be monitoring this work, and if there 869 01:19:44,480 --> 01:19:49,720 is an excessive noise disturbance, then they would be able to readily respond on site. 870 01:19:50,620 --> 01:19:53,880 So, we're doing everything we can to try to minimize the impact. 871 01:19:54,660 --> 01:19:59,360 I just wanted to make sure that the board is aware of this and whether you are in line 872 01:19:59,360 --> 01:19:59,900 with 873 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:29,720 Are thought presses? Thank you, Tom. I appreciate you and Herb and all the staff involved that you're doing everything that you can to alert our citizens and to have their safety and their livelihoods and time at home protected as much as we can as a township. So thank you for having them. First and foremost, as we look at this growth is always a little bit painful and it's going to be a little bit difficult. 874 01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,760 when they're doing that road work, but we know that it needs to be done. 875 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:40,560 So I appreciate all the work and the outreach to the residents through NICSLE and other methods so that everyone's aware. 876 01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:42,700 Anyone else have any comments? 877 01:20:44,380 --> 01:20:44,940 Thank you. 878 01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:46,100 Thank you. 879 01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:49,580 Moving on to agenda item 10E. 880 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:54,200 Transportation needs assessment for inclusion on transportation improvement plan. 881 01:20:54,200 --> 01:21:01,060 Lehigh Valley Planning Commission, Lehigh Valley Transportation Study, and I will, will you take this one as well? 882 01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:07,020 Yeah, I'll provide an overview and then, if there's any more specific questions, I will turn it over to Dave Mannharn. 883 01:21:08,580 --> 01:21:15,280 But the township did receive notification that the Lehigh Valley Planning Commission has begun their transportation needs assessment. 884 01:21:15,620 --> 01:21:23,180 So what that is is basically, it's a series of meetings that will help shape the next 885 01:21:25,140 --> 01:21:30,960 transportation plan, so transportation planning typically covers a period of about 25 years. 886 01:21:31,540 --> 01:21:39,540 The current document is entitled Future LV, so it's actually available on the Lehigh Valley Planning Commission website. 887 01:21:40,180 --> 01:21:50,140 But essentially the plan is divided in a short range, mid range, and long range elements, including the transportation improvements plan. 888 01:21:50,860 --> 01:22:12,020 So those projects are those that are likely to begin during a four year period, mid-range projects are comprised of projects that had not started during the four year period of the transportation improvement plan and they're slated to begin in 2023, 2030 and long range projects are candidate projects to be programmed in the future years, 2031, the 2045. 889 01:22:12,020 --> 01:22:18,480 The Township Doves have a scheduled meeting this Friday with other surrounding municipalities 890 01:22:18,480 --> 01:22:26,400 as well as LVPC to begin to try to work on reviewing the current projects to include 891 01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:32,060 potential new projects and to ensure that the projects that are being reviewed are consistent 892 01:22:32,060 --> 01:22:39,160 for the region and consistent with other planning documents as well as our newly adopted comprehensive 893 01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:39,520 plan. 894 01:22:41,580 --> 01:22:54,240 So, basically we did provide a summary list for you of some of the current items that are already on the plan, as well as other items that we would like to see added to the plan. 895 01:22:55,220 --> 01:22:59,960 So we're going to review that more in depth, just wanted to make you aware of it. 896 01:23:00,340 --> 01:23:03,920 The final list may be subject to change depending on the outcome of those reviews. 897 01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:09,520 But we want to make sure that we are being proactive. 898 01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,420 We're staying on top of this process so that we can make sure self-weight health 899 01:23:12,420 --> 01:23:17,420 health is represented in the planning documents for transportation. 900 01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:19,420 Excellent, Tom. 901 01:23:19,580 --> 01:23:22,980 Thank you very much for that information and for keeping us informed. 902 01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:30,900 Are there any board comments or questions, any from the public moving on to old business? 903 01:23:30,900 --> 01:23:42,320 we have none. Agenda item 12, courtesy of the floor. Again, opportunity for any member of the public to address the board for any non-agenda items. Is there anyone here who would like to address the board? 904 01:23:43,260 --> 01:23:44,160 Anyone online? 905 01:23:45,020 --> 01:23:51,320 Okay, hearing and seeing none, moving on to agenda item 1390 in motion to authorize payment of invoices and disbursements. 906 01:23:51,940 --> 01:23:52,500 Some moved. 907 01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:52,860 Second. 908 01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:54,460 Motion in a second, all in favor? 909 01:23:54,820 --> 01:23:55,020 Aye. 910 01:23:55,020 --> 01:23:55,360 Aye. 911 01:23:55,980 --> 01:23:56,460 Any opposed? 912 01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:57,880 Motion carries 4-0. 913 01:23:58,100 --> 01:24:00,800 We have no executive session scheduled this evening. 914 01:24:00,900 --> 01:24:02,100 I need a motion to adjourn. 915 01:24:02,660 --> 01:24:03,220 Commissioner Kelly. 916 01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:07,080 Before we have the motion, may I make a comment, please? 917 01:24:07,260 --> 01:24:07,440 Of course. 918 01:24:08,020 --> 01:24:15,900 You've always run a very efficient meeting, and it seems longer than it's been, but it looks like we're done in 25 minutes. 919 01:24:16,180 --> 01:24:17,700 So congratulations. 920 01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:19,700 That is a miracle I have performed. 921 01:24:22,730 --> 01:24:24,090 Thank you, Commissioner Osborne. 922 01:24:25,210 --> 01:24:27,230 So I need a motion to adjourn. 923 01:24:27,810 --> 01:24:28,550 So moved. 924 01:24:29,210 --> 01:24:29,690 Second. 925 01:24:30,010 --> 01:24:30,570 All in favor? 926 01:24:31,090 --> 01:24:31,390 Aye. 927 01:24:31,850 --> 01:24:32,510 Motion carries. 928 01:24:32,770 --> 01:24:33,510 Have a good evening everyone. 929 01:24:33,690 --> 01:24:34,030 Thank you.