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Good evening and welcome to the March 15th, 2023 Southway Hall Township Board of Commissioners meeting. I will call this meeting to order. If you would all please rise and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands. One nation under God, invisible liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you. I'd like to announce that all public sessions of the Southway Hall Township Board of

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The commissioners are electronically recorded, filed, and posted to the website for public access.

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I would also like to note that all commissioners are present this evening except for commissioner David Kennedy.

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At this time, I'll ask our township manager, Tom Pertrucci, to please review our public virtual meetings.

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Thank you.

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The rules are as follows.

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Currency of the floor for non-agenda items will be at the beginning and end of the agenda.

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Public comment will be limited to five minutes per speaker.

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For all listed agenda items, the board president will call for courtesy of the floor prior to the Board of Commissioners taking action on that specific agenda item.

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For in-person attendees, please raise your hand to be recognized and move to the podium when directed.

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You will be asked to state your name and address for the record and may them proceed with asking your question.

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For those participating virtually, please mute your microphone or telephone to avoid any background noise that may cause interference in the meeting.

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If you have a comment or question, please type your full name and address into the chat box.

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The staff member monitoring go to meeting.

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Well, then a mutual microphone and you will have the opportunity to comment or ask a question.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Tom.

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I'd also like to announce that the Board of Commissioners did meet an executive session this evening prior to our meeting to discuss legal matters.

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At this time, I'll go on to agenda item four courtesy of the floor.

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this is opportunity for public comment on any non-agenda items. Is there anyone in the audience

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or online who'd like to address the board at this time? Yes, sir. If you come up to the microphone

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and then just please turn on the microphone. The green light will come on and if you give us your name

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and address. There it's on. Excellent. Thank you. Good evening everyone. My name is Mark Bradbury.

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I live at 4279 Heather Court in South Whitehall Township.

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Here tonight just to briefly congratulate the board for finally getting a comprehensive

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plan, you know, will finally be done.

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I think the last one was 2009, is that correct?

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And I have one of my clients with me, but I had several other, some of them are dead already,

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that tried to get things re-zoned or changed or modified over the course of the last nine to ten years and we were always told that the way to the comprehensive plan is done.

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We don't want to make any decisions to the comprehensive plan is done.

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Unfortunately, that sometimes doesn't make any sense.

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I took the liberty of looking back at the 2009 land use future access areas, which a lot of people, when a comprehensive plan is done, take it at face value and look at it and say, look, I see opportunities here that the township looks like they're willing to back me up on.

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There's areas that show growth areas of different types of residential or commercial or different

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types of uses that are permitted by the NPC in a task ship.

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I was surprised when I looked through the new comprehensive plan and noticed that a lot

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of those had been taken away done away with completely and I understand that from conversations

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with some of your staff that when the rezoning does take place and I don't know when you're

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going to do it when I'm sure there is going to be some areas that are going to be rezoned

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or possibly amend it and when I say amend it I look at the areas especially on the future

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growth map that has the green, Jordan, Greek area, and then the green field, or I'm sorry,

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not the green field, the natural

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resources.

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Those areas normally are offered wetlands, steep slopes, floodplains, et cetera, and they

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make sense.

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They are absolutely necessary to keep the health of the township, keep our waterways clean,

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helps with

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abstain, healthy, growth in the towshift. However, Mark, could I interrupt you just a moment? I didn't realize all of your comments were going to be regarding the Comprehensive Plan. Okay.

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That makes sense.

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Okay.

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Sure.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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For anyone else in the audience with any comment on non-agenda items.

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Is there anyone online?

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Okay.

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Very good.

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Thank you.

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Moving on to agenda item five.

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Our meeting minutes from the March 1st, 2023 Board of Commissioners.

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Meeting have been distributed to the Board for your review.

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Are there any comments or questions on the meeting minutes this evening?

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Okay, hearing and seeing none, do I have a motion to approve?

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So moved.

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I'll second.

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All in favor?

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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Motion carries four to zero.

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There are no ordinances this evening.

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Moving on to agenda item seven, resolutions.

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I'm going to pass this portion of the meeting over to Dave Manhart, director of, who need

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development to just give us an overview of the comprehensive plan before.

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Do we need to open the public hearing?

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Let me go ahead and open up public hearing, and then I'll turn it to you in just a moment, Dave.

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This public hearing is a bit unusual for those of you that have knowledge about the news palace planning code or a 10 public meetings.

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You probably recognize that most often public hearing is associated with an ordinance adoption or consideration for adoption.

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Resolutions which are on just about every agenda, almost never have a public hearing.

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But this is a process mandated by the municipality's planning code.

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And I would note for the record that the preliminaries that I refer to as advertising public notice in the like under the MPC have been fulfilled for this public hearing, the purpose of a public hearing is twofold.

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One is to inform the public, the other is to accept public comment for consideration by the board before the hearing closes.

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and ultimately for consideration when there are decisions to be made such as can be made in the board discretion this evening.

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So with that having been said, the first component of that is informing the public and I'll turn that to Mr. Matt Hart, please.

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Thank you. So with the comprehensive plan, some of the questions we've gotten a lot and I kind of want to start with this is what is the

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comprehensive plan and more importantly, what is not a comprehensive plan.

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So a comprehensive plan for one is required by the NPCs, Joe alluded to, is required

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for municipalities to have a comprehensive plan.

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The second thing a comprehensive plan does is it sets the vision for future growth development

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and preservation.

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It sets a high level policy and that it also lays the foundation for any regulatory decisions

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moving forward.

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What it is not, it is not a zoning ordinance change, it is not a zoning map change, it

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is not a change to saldo, it's not a change to the official map.

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So what the purpose of the comprehensive plan is when the legislature goes to make those changes a reference to the comprehensive plan to help inform any of those decisions.

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So that's why comprehensive plans are typically broader, more of a policy document.

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So that's an important distinction and it's been a lot of the questions that we've been

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fielding as staff throughout this entire process.

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So I wanted to kind of get that out there first.

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The second part of this is how did we get to this point?

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Starting in 2019, almost four years to the day, actually March 13th was the first meeting.

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We started with the guiding principal meetings and we called that phase one.

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The way we structure the comprehensive plan is we wanted to do a big chunk of public engagement

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which have been up front to get as much public input as we could up front and then funnel that down into the comprehensive plan.

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So there were three years of

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Public engagement, deliberate. Phase one was the existing conditions and guiding principle meetings that we had at the high school. Phase two were the where should we grow exercises that included the maps, getting people to have an idea where in the township might be appropriate to accommodate growth. Also where they would like to see protected and what they felt needed to be improved.

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We then, well, then COVID hit, so we had to make a pivot there.

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We prepared an online visual preference survey that was sent out, and that was in,

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we launched that in October of 2020, ran that through till February, got close to, I believe

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it was 700 responses.

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And the idea there was to figure out, once we know where the public wants things we should

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grow, how is it going to look?

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So we took that and then went into phase four where we split into working groups, specific

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based on specific topic areas.

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This is where people that had an interest in transportation could get involved and make

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recommendations, we had workbooks set up that helped people walk through that process.

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And then that kind of culminated with the, that ended the public engagement focus phase.

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The next phase was the joint comprehensive plan workshops with the POC and the planning

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commission where we as staff distilled all of that information, hopefully clearly, into

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goals and objectives and implementation items that we work through on the topic basis.

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That process took about a year, and here we are.

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So one of the things that distinguishes, in my opinion, and colleagues and staff that distinguishes

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this comprehensive plan is the amount of public engagement.

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We've had in addition to updates at regularly scheduled B.O.C. meetings and planning commission meetings.

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We've had five standalone public meetings, 16 joint B.O.C., planning commission workshops, 15 group workshops,

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seven open houses, four pop-up events, two plan and commission meetings that were dedicated to the Comprehensive Plan, and then the online

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visual preference survey. So there was a lot of public engagement throughout that process.

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The next thing I wanted to talk about is where we're going.

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Some of the things that came up during that public engagement process was having a clear road map to move forward with the comprehensive plan.

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There were a lot of comments early on, how do we know how we did on the 2009 plan?

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We didn't have that clear implementation item, so this comprehensive plan was very deliberate in laying out implementation items.

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So, that provides moving forward the framework and the action plan almost of how we get this thing off the ground, what we can do.

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And most of those implementations are related around or revolve around detailed plans.

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So those detailed plans will help any decision makers, the Board of Commissioners, make decisions for regulatory changes.

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So if there's a change to the official map, a change to zoning, a change to the saldo,

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those detailed plans in construction with the comprehensive plan are designed and

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deliberately prepared to give information so that the board can make educated decisions moving forward.

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In addition to establishing processes, if we need to do that, for implementation.

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So, that was another distinguishing aspect of this comprehensive plan.

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Thirdly, is how will we measure success that kind of ties into some of the comments

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from early on?

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Because we have it laid out with implementation, we can clearly see how we're doing on implementation.

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If there's something that slipped through the cracks, we know it's in there, we can go

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We'll back it.

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And then look at it and pull it out if we need to. The other thing that's recommended as part of this is a re-examination report. So that piece will force, and we'll have to figure out how it gets adopted in the details of it. But that will force the planning commission and the board of commissioners to periodically look at the comprehensive plan. And if things come up that require changes, we can go back in and make amendments or

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or tweak some implementation items and things like that.

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So that gives the broad framework of how it was laid out and kind of addresses some of

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the comments and concerns that we've heard going through this process.

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I do want to thank all the staff that was involved, the board members, past and present, staff

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a lot of people have worked on this and it was a great team.

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Great to be here, finally.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Dave.

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Does the board have any questions of Mr. Mannhart?

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No questions.

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Thank you.

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Does the board have any comments before I open it up to the public?

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I'll certainly make a general comment.

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Dave, thank you for delineating the amount of work,

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work, man hours that staff and board, both this board and planning, have dedicated to

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this, but more importantly, I want to thank you and all of the team that has been involved

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for the outreach to the community.

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I think that was something that we heard over and over again that the community did not

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feel like they had a voice, and you provided, you and the team, multiple options for the

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public to participate, whether in person, online, a survey, an open house.

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So I want to thank you for bringing the community together, and the product that has come

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out of this is excellent, and I look forward to the next steps.

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And just to follow up on that is, the implementation is, again, we're going to be reaching out to

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public during that implementation phase as well.

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So it kind of I kind of see that public involvement kind of died down during the workshops because we were going through a lot of it

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But now with implementation I see us ramping it back up.

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I do have one comment as well

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I wanted to thank you and all the staff. This has been a really long journey and

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It's really a great plan. It's a happy day

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And I want to also commend you in the built-in

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and re-examination and the implementation, because what good is it if we do it, we spend all the work on it and we do it and we put it on the shelf and we don't come back and revisit it.

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So I'm really happy that that was done, I thank you very much.

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I'll just have two brief comments, first Dave, thank you for your leadership and to the entire team.

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It's a great product that you have assembled here for us, so I'm very appreciative of that.

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Okay. And my second comment is just to the entire board, assuming that we adopt the comp plan at the conclusion of this hearing, for us, it's really not, it's the end of one process, but it's the beginning of another.

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And now that all the consultants and the planning commission and staff and our board and previous boards included have kind of left their mark on the comp plan, it's on us.

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to make sure that it's implemented.

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The 2009 comp plan, if you go back and read it,

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calls for a lot of the same changes that are in this comp plan.

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And it makes the argument as to why we should zone certain areas,

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certain ways, what programs we should look at

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for the long-term health of our community.

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But the difference is subsequent boards after the 2009 comp plan

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didn't have the structure to implement it and chose not to implement certain provisions.

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So it's great that we have this comprehensive plan before us, but

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it's on us to provide the direction and make sure that we're implementing the provisions in a timely manner.

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So I think that will have just as much of an impact on our community as the long community center development of the complaint.

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So I would just ask the board to keep that in mind as we move through the next phase of this long

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Project in the best interest of our community.

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Thank you commissioners, and I would just observe since

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Yes, everyone who spoke, each commissioner and Mr. Manhardt have talked about the implementation, just so the public in the audience is aware. A comprehensive plan really is a document that as Dave said is visionary by itself, it really has no teeth or no enforceability. It's the implementation created by the vision of the comp plan that really is where the revered meets the road. That said, I'll now open up to the public, and I think it's appropriate since Mr. Bradbury was already speaking.

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he has an opportunity to finish his comments and

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I would just as a matter of record note that because this is a public meeting we're now into the public hearing component of it and because the township does record its meetings that what you've said already mark will incorporate into the public hearing.

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I think really my ending statement is what this whole conversation is about.

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I could get into what I thought about how things should have been done.

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And I did attend some of the meetings, and I thought it was, you know, quite a gallon

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effort, especially after all of what I saw was taking place over the years trying to get

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different projects done. I'm on the other side. I work with my clients and, of course, I work with the township.

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I'm a resident here, so I have a lot of skin in the game.

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My biggest issue with a comprehensive plan,

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it's not just with Southwide All Township, it's with any township. It is a device that was put together by

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people who were educated in various areas of the growth, health, safety, and welfare of our community.

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It is a guiding tool.

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It should not be wheeled like a sword, and that's the tough part with a comp plan.

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What I have found is that book that gets put up on the shelf at whatever 2009.

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When the township needed to use it and they would say, well, what you're proposing, doesn't match what we have in our constant comprehensive plan, they pull it out and throw that at my clients or myself and say, that's why we don't want it.

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On the other hand, if it didn't agree with the comprehensive plan but it was something that they want it, they would ignore the comprehensive plan.

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And I would come and say, I would argue, I'd say, well, why are you letting this developer do this?

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It's not part of the comprehensive plan, it's totally against it.

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So, and I know that Joe was trying to tell people that this is not an ordinance.

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This is just a guiding tool.

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My biggest concern is the implementation of what's happening next as we re-examming the zoning districts.

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districts. Take a look at what we want to change. Obviously, I spoke to, or my clients

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spoke to Greg today, and they were talking about different zoning districts. And basically

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the conversation ended that we're not going to really change the base districts. If you

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are of a neighborhood commercial district, it will probably stay neighborhood commercial.

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If it's highway commercial, it will probably stay highway commercial. It's residential,

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Because you don't want to create non-conforming uses by changing a zoning district so that the people that live there have to get a variance every time they want to put up a garage or do something different, which actually happened.

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It's a drone, I believe, not too long ago.

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But my concern is that those districts will have things added to them that will make

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it prohibitive to utilize it the way it's being utilized now.

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For example, if you have a neighborhood commercial and the zoning district says you can have 80%

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in previous coverage.

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Well, now if it falls within the green zone,

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you can keep it neighborhood commercial,

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but anybody in the future, we only want 20% coverage.

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And I'm trying to inform my clients

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that even if you're told the district isn't gonna change,

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that those are some of the things that can take place

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when rezoning occurs or zoning ordinances are amended.

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So I just asked this board to please be very careful

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and don't use this as a sword. Use it as a guiding tool to guide yourselves and our community and

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listen to the community's input before any massive changes take place. On step at a time.

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And again, I'm going to try and as things

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Let's go on. I know I couldn't get to all these comprehensive meetings. It was just went on for so long, but when zoning districts change, I am going to ask that I'm informed with each time a zoning district is going to be modified or amended so that I can come in and at least keep my clients appraised of what could happen. Like I said, real quick, I looked at the 2009 plan and the areas that were shown for future

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Your growth are now covered up in areas where they don't want any growth.

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So if you're a land buyer or your person that lives here in the township, and you think

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well, I'm going to look at the comprehensive plan, I'm going to use this as a guide to

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see how I'm going to structure my life and my business, or what I do for a living, and

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all of a sudden the runs pull out from under you.

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It's kind of a real slap in the face, it's tough to take.

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So, I know this is not a zoning ordinance, but it certainly has enough weight that it can sway or change people's vines as to what shooter shouldn't be done in that particular area of the township.

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So, use it as a guide out of sword.

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So, I'll ask. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Is there any on else in the public that has a comment with respect to the conference of plan resolution?

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Do we have anyone online that would like to comment?

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There's three participants, I'm not seeing any comments or any hands raised.

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Give it a second in case someone does want to raise a hand or make a comment.

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And once we know for sure, I'm Mr. Bradbury, yes, sir.

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Just one last thing real quick.

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If I do come in here again with a client who would like a zoning variance or a zoning change or something to do with their property,

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I would please ask the township not to tell us the way to the next comprehensive plan comes out so that they can make a decision.

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Like I said, some of my clients passed away waiting for it, so it's not as funny as we like to make it seem, but please don't let us do that again.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Chris, are we still a negative on the online participation with the comment?

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Yes, yes, there's no comments.

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Once again, anyone from the public that would like to speak and address this matter?

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Going once, going twice.

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No more hands, no more comment from the public.

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Are there any final comments or questions from Board of Commissioners?

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Seeing none, hearing none, I will close- Oh, Chris, did you want to say something?

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There was a participant earlier who was in and who just left but came back.

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Can we just confirm that there's no?

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Please do.

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Is there anyone online who wishes to make a comment?

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Any final comments or questions from any member of the Board of Commissioners?

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Seeing none and having no public comment to add to what's been said already, I'll close this public hearing.

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Then I'll turn it back to our Board President if you wish to proceed with entertaining emotion.

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action to adopt the resolution I'd be within your rights to do so.

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Thank you very much, Attorney Zator.

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At this time do I have a motion to adopt the plan and

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title the 2023 Southway Hall Township Comprehensive Plan?

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Some moved.

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I'll second.

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All in favor?

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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Motion carries, four to zero.

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Thank you.

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And thank you again to staff.

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Thank you, Mr. Bradbury, for your comments as well.

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Thank you.

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Congratulations to the staff.

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Thank you.

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I have champagne in the car.

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Right.

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We'll have a little tailgate.

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You've earned it.

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Moving along on our agenda, we have Resolution B, a resolution of the Board of Commissioners

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of Southway Health Township, authorizing the Township Manager to execute an agreement with

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Aqua, Pennsylvania, incorporated, providing for a cost-sharing arrangement for road

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Good restoration work to occur in South Wales Township, and I will turn this over to our Township Manager, Tom Petrucci.

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Thank you, Commissioner Kelly.

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If the board is okay with this approach, I'd like to review 7BN7C, both resolutions collectively and ask for separate action on each.

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That makes sense, sir.

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Okay, thank you.

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So the Township Management is looking to move forward with cost share agreements with both UGI and Aqua.

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The cost share agreement with UJI's work for it, they would conduct on the township on various roads, including Huckleberry Road 20-

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First Street, 24th Street, Belmont, and North 25th Street portions thereof. The agreement would be for $99,960. The agreement with Aqua is for a water main replacement project to take place at Country Club Gardens, and that agreement would be for $82,320. The overall concept of these agreements is that in lieu of Aqua or UGI, conducting pavement restoration work, the township local forces

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is would actually conduct both milling and asphalt resurfacing.

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And essentially, Aqua and UGI would be paying the township for the materials to conduct that work.

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And the township would take on the milling as part of its overall milling bid to ensure

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that the work is completed in accordance with township specifications.

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So these agreements are possible due to the requirements of Chapter 30426,

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which is work in street right away, or township in easements.

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Section J, which specifies when full with paving restoration is work, work is required by the township's street excavation ordinance.

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I'd like to thank Herb Bender, Director of Operations for making the contacts with UGI and Aqua.

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We view this as part of a two-tier process in which the aforementioned ordinance was first adopted in 2019.

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This is the second part of the process whereby we work with the utility providers to ensure

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that the township is getting full with paving restoration to meet its needs and also to ensure that the infrastructure of the township is replaced on an ongoing basis as well by the utility providers.

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So it's a win-win for the township, as we view it. Any questions?

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I

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have a comment, which is can't be taken as a question.

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So as I understand the explanation, Tom, actually this is a win for

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the rate pairs of both Aqua and UGI, is that correct?

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Yes, it's a win-win for the utility providers as well as the talent ship.

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So we actually can, it costs them a little bit less.

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And then whereby we're actually paying, we're receiving the money to conduct the work at the same time.

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The other thing we have to remember is, in the ordinance for the paving requirements where Aqua is putting the water main NUGI, they would only be required to do a half mill and overlay, so now we will be getting full with mill and overlay on these roads.

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And includes both the scratch and wearing courses, yes.

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So, Herb in taking this on, which I think is very nice, are we subtracting from the schedule that you had planned for the rest of the year on other roads?

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No, we will still do our budget, too.

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Our full paving this year, and next year, we will incorporate this work to give it one year for full

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settlement and then put that in the 2024 budget to pay these roads also.

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Very nice, thank you.

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My only comment would be I know that the township did paving in house last year in the comments that we received from the residents were so favorable and they were very thankful for job well done.

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So I want to praise you and the public works team who took care of that and it's exciting to know that we're

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going to be paving all of these roads now in house in that same fashion.

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So it's a benefit to our residents as well.

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Thank you.

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I'm from the board.

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I do have a quick question.

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When this job is going to be started, residents will have a quick notification, right?

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Are you planning to notify them through Nixel and door hangers and so forth?

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For the milling and the old road?

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Yeah, we're going to follow the same process we do for our in house paving.

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Nothing will change for notification of properties or anything.

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We will post the streets, we put door hangers out.

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We notify 72 hours in advance when we're coming.

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Sometimes even more, but yes, they will be no more.

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Okay, all right, great.

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And I also wanted to thank you for being so specific with the areas you put the streets.

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And it gave me a very clear concise idea of where this was going to happen.

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So I appreciate that, thank you.

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Any other board coming at this time?

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any public comment? Anybody online?

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Okay, hearing and seeing none, we'll have to take these

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one at a time. Do I have a motion to proceed with a resolution B, providing for the authorization

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of the township manager to execute an agreement with AquaPensalvania Incorporated?

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Or cost sharing arrangement for road restoration work to occur in South Wales Township. So moved. Second. Motion, the second, all in favor. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries 4-0. Moving on to resolution 7-c. We have a resolution of the Board of Commissioners of South Wales Township authorizing the Township Manager to execute an agreement with UGI Utilities Incorporated, providing for cost sharing arrangement for road restoration work to occur in South Wales Township.

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Do I have a motion to approve said resolution?

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So moved.

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Second, all in favor?

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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The motion carries 4 to 0.

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Thank you.

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Moving on to agenda item 7D.

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We have a resolution at the Board of Commissioners of South Wales Townshipley High County, Pennsylvania

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authorizing the Township Manager to execute a utility relocation, occupancy, and cost

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sharing agreement with the Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission, and I'll ask our Township

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Manager to present.

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Thank you.

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As part of the Tillman Street Bridge Utility Relocation Project, the township must remove and relocate the sanitary sewer mainline located on the Tillman Street Bridge, which is SR-1,2002.

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And it's located over the Pennsylvania Turnpike Northeast Extension.

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The Turnpike is commissioned by offering to reimburse the township 50% of the costs associated with the work, minus any betterments and charges for interest on construction money as laid out in the agreement.

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The utility relocation occupancy and cost sharing agreement is enclosed for reference the above the resolution authorizes the township manager to execute the agreement on behalf of the township and the agreement that you see is pretty much other standard template boilerplate agreement with the term by commission.

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Thank you, Tom. Any board comments or questions on this resolution?

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Any from the public?

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Seeing none, do I have a motion to approve said resolution?

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I'll make that motion, is there a second?

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Second.

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I have a motion, a second.

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All in favor?

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Any opposed?

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Motion carries four to zero.

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Moving on to agenda item E.

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We have a resolution for a 2023 DCNR Community Conservation

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Partnership Program Grant Application.

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I'll turn it over to Tom.

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Thank you.

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So in talking internally with township staff, including Christopher

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for a stroller, long-range planner, we are recommending that the township apply for a $200,000 matching grant to supplement the township's $1 million transportation alternative set aside TASA grant to construct segments 41 to 45 of the Jordan and Creek Greenway, which is from lap road to where Mill Road Incover Bridge Park.

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The reason that we are asking to supplement the original $1 million funding is that the costs

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of what the final bid will be for this project once the tax grant is actually advertised

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in the ECMAS system as per Penn.recarments, the final cost is somewhat unknown.

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So while we do have an estimate at this time, we're kind of not operating in terms of the hard numbers at this point because we don't have the hard numbers back.

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So that goes for both the final construction costs as well as the inspection costs.

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So roughly, you know, you have your million dollar project and then you have approximately 12% of inspection cost as well, which is $120,000.

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So there was always a potential that the grant, the project will come in under bid, but that's highly unlikely in today's environment.

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So we're trying to supplement the funding with a $200,000 DCNR C2P2 grant, which is the Community Conservation Partnership Program.

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So, essentially, we would be using the task of money to match the DCNR grant, so there wouldn't be an additional amount of financial output.

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But however, I want to be clear, and we'll also get into this with agenda item 7G that this is a reimbursement grant for the TASA grant.

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So that we'll have to put out the money, ensure that that money is provided for in the 2024 budget, and then seek reimbursement through the state.

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So we're trying to ensure that we are in the best case scenario that we have more than enough funding to account for the entire project.

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Thank you, Tom.

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Other any board questions on this agenda item?

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Commissioner Osborne.

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Thank you, Commissioner Kelly.

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Tom, let me not assume I know the answer.

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So, how was the amount of $200,000 arrived at as far as, you know, for the grant application?

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That's a great question.

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So basically,

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Because the inspection costs are estimated to be around $150,000. We kind of use that as the benchmark. There was a little bit of some guesstimation going on. It's not a hard, fast number, but it's basically where we felt comfortable that we wouldn't be asking for too much money, where we could still justify trying to supplement the overall costs of the tassar grant.

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And if everything becomes maxed out in terms of construction and the inspection.

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If I may add, just so we are working through the design and engineering process now we

421
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,680
are at 90% engineered.

422
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:50,780
So we do have fairly good cost estimates as of today, but knowing the market materials cost

423
00:40:50,780 --> 00:40:57,400
and the unforeseen ability to get a contractor to come in at our estimated budget.

424
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,920
But as of today, we're looking at roughly around a million dollars for construction alone.

425
00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:07,500
Taking into the fact that as Tom mentioned, we need to look at inspection services.

426
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:13,020
These are things that we would budget for at the end of this year for a 2024 budget.

427
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:24,320
So really the purpose of this grant is just to be proactive if we are looking at that same construction cost plus the construction inspection services that would be required for this project.

428
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,500
These are things we would have to budget for regardless.

429
00:41:28,100 --> 00:41:37,140
So the idea of getting the grant funding, applying for the grant funding now, is we'll know if that's coming out of the township budget, or if we can supplement that cost in 2024.

430
00:41:39,180 --> 00:41:50,040
But again, it's by probably October is when we'll have the project that to bid and we'll look at what the actual estimates will come in from potential contractors.

431
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:52,560
Okay, thank you.

432
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,280
Yeah, they're looking to actually let the project by October.

433
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,960
So we'll have, they'll open the bids by October.

434
00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:02,700
So we'll have all those numbers available.

435
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,380
Any other forward comments or questions?

436
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,180
Anything from the public?

437
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:12,620
Mary Ann Singh, none do I have a motion to approve set resolution?

438
00:42:13,140 --> 00:42:13,500
Some move.

439
00:42:14,100 --> 00:42:14,660
I'll second.

440
00:42:14,980 --> 00:42:15,380
All in favor?

441
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:15,960
Aye.

442
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:17,080
Any opposed?

443
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:18,840
Motion carries four to zero.

444
00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:19,960
Thank you.

445
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,560
Moving on to agenda item seven.

446
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:29,460
We have a resolution extending the conditional preliminary final approval granted to a major plan entitled proposed parking lot improvements,

447
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:35,200
798 houseman road, turn it over to Greg Adams, planning department.

448
00:42:35,660 --> 00:42:36,000
Thank you.

449
00:42:36,700 --> 00:42:41,420
This is an application to further develop the property located at 798 houseman road.

450
00:42:41,740 --> 00:42:46,440
The plan proposes the construction of a new driveway aisle in the elimination of 13 parking spaces,

451
00:42:47,060 --> 00:42:50,000
stormwater management improvements, and the installation of a new waterline.

452
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:57,120
All on a point 0.81 acre portion of the 6.072 acre site.

453
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:03,300
The Board of Commissioners granted preliminary final approval of the project on February 17th, 2021.

454
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:10,420
On February 2nd, 2022, the Board of Commissioners granted a 12-month extension to the approval of the project.

455
00:43:11,240 --> 00:43:17,480
And a month ago, February 13th, 2023, the Board of Commissioners granted a 30-day extension

456
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:26,100
In order to observe the results of the current effort to bring the 798 houseman buildings water line connection into compliance with the township's regulation.

457
00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:34,420
The applicant's team here is here, here tonight, for an update and to request spoiler alert a three-month extension.

458
00:43:39,450 --> 00:43:41,610
Good evening, Anthony Brickdown, behalf of the-

459
00:43:41,610 --> 00:43:43,110
You just make sure the microphone's on, sir.

460
00:43:43,790 --> 00:43:44,190
Yeah, obviously.

461
00:43:44,330 --> 00:43:44,570
Thank you.

462
00:43:44,570 --> 00:43:50,490
Good evening, thank you for your time, Anthony Brickda, representing Leavale Health Network.

463
00:43:51,090 --> 00:43:59,510
So the recitation by Mr. Adams is correct, basically to bring the board up to date if you're not already aware from materials that were submitted as part of the agenda.

464
00:44:00,270 --> 00:44:09,450
We did attempt to insert and insert a valve at significant cost to separate the water lines, unfortunately it was unsuccessful.

465
00:44:10,130 --> 00:44:22,010
So the status is right now is we're looking for another solution, which I believe is going to require coordination with the township's professional staff to get a meeting to go to the next step.

466
00:44:22,250 --> 00:44:36,110
So we're certainly optimistic that we can solve this in the next month, but we're requesting three months just to avoid having to come back if it's not successful because as the board is aware, it's been particularly costly and difficult process to solve.

467
00:44:36,110 --> 00:44:46,430
So to avoid coming back every month or every meeting, we're asking for the three months with the expectation that it will be resolved before then, just to avoid coming back and taking your time.

468
00:44:47,930 --> 00:44:52,190
We have Zach Lawnsleger from the Health Network to provide a little.

469
00:44:52,190 --> 00:44:52,270
So,

470
00:44:55,930 --> 00:44:58,530
we had a meeting just recently with...

471
00:45:00,430 --> 00:45:31,420
Some of the guys from the public works. So we do have a plan in place to try going out a little further to some other valves to close it. Our problem is we have to make sure that once these lines are separated, we still have enough for our fire suppression system. So that's why we're trying to shut these valves down before we separate the line. But I think we have a pretty good plan in place and hopefully the next week or two.

472
00:45:31,420 --> 00:45:32,160
time

473
00:45:34,370 --> 00:45:36,190
with so we can.

474
00:45:38,750 --> 00:45:39,930
Excellent, thank you.

475
00:45:40,070 --> 00:45:43,110
Herb, did you have anything to add from the township perspective?

476
00:45:44,290 --> 00:45:45,690
No, Zach is correct.

477
00:45:45,950 --> 00:45:49,930
We have been talking almost daily with him coming up with the plan.

478
00:45:50,290 --> 00:45:51,290
He is correct.

479
00:45:51,630 --> 00:45:56,490
An insertion valve is $1,000, a couple of thousands of dollars.

480
00:45:56,830 --> 00:45:57,950
They did try it.

481
00:45:58,010 --> 00:45:59,230
It did not get the shutdown.

482
00:45:59,230 --> 00:46:05,970
down, so now we are going to try shutting two valves down from Luther Crest and one of

483
00:46:05,970 --> 00:46:13,190
our valves down. We believe we were out, exercised our valve already, listened on it, we believe

484
00:46:13,190 --> 00:46:21,690
we have a shutdown on our valve. The next step is to close our valve, close the two valves

485
00:46:21,690 --> 00:46:26,910
that Luther Crest check the hydrant for any flow. If there's no flow at the hydrant,

486
00:46:26,910 --> 00:46:35,370
We leave the two of Luther Cress closed, open our valve, and then we take the fire flow test to make sure they will have enough fire protection.

487
00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:45,470
And then, if they don't, in the meantime, we have to reopen those valves, and then we have to come up with a plan of how they're going to get enough fire suppression.

488
00:46:46,670 --> 00:46:47,870
Very good, thank you, Herb.

489
00:46:48,630 --> 00:46:50,530
I'll open up to the board if there's any questions.

490
00:46:50,530 --> 00:46:52,170
Thank you, Commissioner Kelly.

491
00:46:52,950 --> 00:47:03,570
Just my curiosity, you mentioned that you're unsuccessful in the attempt that you actually told us about a month ago that you're going to give it a shot.

492
00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:15,790
Are there, is the problem that the isolation valves that you needed to hold to execute this project are not holding or what is the engineering issue?

493
00:47:15,790 --> 00:47:22,700
Yeah, the valve center in place aren't holding, so you can't isolate it.

494
00:47:22,860 --> 00:47:28,700
We can't isolate it, and the new plan we came up with is going to actually shut the water down to the whole building.

495
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,380
So we're just trying, that's what's taking time to, just trying to coordinate this.

496
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,900
What's going to be the fate of the valves that are not holding?

497
00:47:37,380 --> 00:47:43,400
Is that anything within your jurisdiction and can fix now or not?

498
00:47:45,700 --> 00:47:55,120
Without a shutdown? No, they cannot be fixed right now. They have to be able to shut the water down first and then fix everything that would need to be fixed.

499
00:47:55,740 --> 00:48:09,900
But that system is private, where those valves are not holding, so the township, we shouldn't say we don't have any say, we can ask them to fix them but they own those valves. We do not own those valves.

500
00:48:09,900 --> 00:48:12,540
Okay, that was kind of the corollary to my point.

501
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:16,660
The fate of those vows is not in your hands because they're privately owned.

502
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:21,180
The isolation vows that are not holding, is that right?

503
00:48:22,060 --> 00:48:23,880
I think you're saying they're not in the townships hands.

504
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:28,520
Yeah, they're not in the townships hands, they would be in LVHN's hands that are not working.

505
00:48:29,140 --> 00:48:34,560
Oh, so LVHN owns the vows that are leaking?

506
00:48:35,700 --> 00:48:38,540
That are not closing all the way, I believe yes.

507
00:48:38,540 --> 00:48:46,340
Yes, yes. Okay, so let me go back to my original question. What's the fee to those valves that you can fix or replace?

508
00:48:47,940 --> 00:48:50,700
Is that of importance at all in this topic?

509
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,640
I mean, yeah, we would like to get them replaced.

510
00:48:55,760 --> 00:49:01,080
We just have to make sure that there's one step further you can go where their valves don't close.

511
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:01,420
Yes.

512
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:09,620
We hold the master valve outside of their area that we can close to close the water off at that time.

513
00:49:09,740 --> 00:49:10,200
No, that has to work.

514
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:11,540
Our valve has to work.

515
00:49:11,780 --> 00:49:11,960
Yes.

516
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:13,120
We need to go back.

517
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:14,240
Correct.

518
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:15,120
Okay.

519
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,360
Maybe it was a convoluted way of getting to it, but that was my question.

520
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:22,400
The valves that are won't close fully.

521
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:28,220
You intend to replace them as long as you can get a clean shot off upstream of them?

522
00:49:29,100 --> 00:49:31,960
Yeah, that would, that would be the, the phytoplane, yeah.

523
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:37,080
And that can all be accomplished in the next three months, possibly?

524
00:49:37,180 --> 00:49:41,880
Well, the thing that we're talking about right now is just getting the separation.

525
00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:42,360
Right.

526
00:49:42,620 --> 00:49:46,120
That's the biggest thing that they get off of the Luther Cress lines.

527
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,160
So that's what we're trying to accomplish first.

528
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:49,480
Yeah.

529
00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:54,460
Once that is done, they have complied with the township regulations.

530
00:49:54,460 --> 00:49:59,860
So then, for them, the repair of the valves would be on them to repair.

531
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:00,680
There are valves.

532
00:50:03,130 --> 00:50:30,390
And once those lines are separated, some of those valves are irrelevant at that. Correct. Yeah, I can picture that. Okay. Thank you. Thanks for indulging me. We have a comment from the board. Hasn't been an easy road for you. And I wish you the best. I really do. Good luck. Any public comment on this resolution? Hearing and seeing none, drive a motion to approve said resolution? Second.

533
00:50:30,390 --> 00:50:32,110
In the second, all in favor?

534
00:50:32,390 --> 00:50:32,550
Aye.

535
00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:33,130
Aye.

536
00:50:33,790 --> 00:50:34,230
Any opposed?

537
00:50:34,530 --> 00:50:35,810
Motion carries 4 to 0.

538
00:50:36,250 --> 00:50:36,650
Thank you, gentlemen.

539
00:50:38,090 --> 00:50:40,370
Moving on to agenda item 7G.

540
00:50:40,550 --> 00:50:44,630
We have a resolution of the Board of Commissioners of South Wales Townshipley High County, Pennsylvania.

541
00:50:45,130 --> 00:50:49,250
Authorizing the execution of an agreement with the Pennsylvania Department of Transportation

542
00:50:49,250 --> 00:50:55,450
for acceptance of transportation alternative side funds for the Jordan Creek Greenway and covered bridge park.

543
00:50:55,810 --> 00:50:57,190
I'll turn it over to Tom Petrucci.

544
00:50:57,490 --> 00:50:58,210
Thank you.

545
00:50:58,790 --> 00:51:09,230
As previously mentioned, this is for the TASA grant for the Jordan Creek Greenway from Wear Mill Road to LAP Road through Coverage Bridge Park.

546
00:51:09,650 --> 00:51:19,570
I wanted to very strongly point out the fact that this is a reimbursement grant for a million dollars whereby the township needs to put out the funds and then we seek reimbursement.

547
00:51:19,570 --> 00:51:26,690
So basically the township has been diligently working with its consultant, Michael Baker International,

548
00:51:27,570 --> 00:51:32,610
to go through the various administrative requirements with respect to environmental

549
00:51:32,610 --> 00:51:39,790
clearances, utility clearances, ownership, title clearances, in order to let this project

550
00:51:40,070 --> 00:51:42,210
through PennDOT's ECMS system.

551
00:51:42,990 --> 00:51:49,090
So the project manager who's Christie Barry from McCormick Taylor has given the green light

552
00:51:49,090 --> 00:51:53,810
for the township to sign the reimbursement agreement to allow the next steps in the project

553
00:51:53,810 --> 00:52:01,130
to commence, which would be the bidding of the project by August with the opening in

554
00:52:01,130 --> 00:52:08,130
October. Basically, from the date of the execution of the agreement, the township has five years

555
00:52:08,130 --> 00:52:14,850
to complete the work. We hope to be well before that completion date, as previously noted,

556
00:52:14,850 --> 00:52:18,090
of the bulk of the work will be completed in 2024.

557
00:52:20,290 --> 00:52:25,810
So basically, we're confident that we are moving in the right direction with respect

558
00:52:25,810 --> 00:52:27,310
to all the aforementioned clearances.

559
00:52:27,730 --> 00:52:36,290
We don't anticipate any type of legal issues with getting those, obtaining those clearances.

560
00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:42,870
I would say at this point, we're close to 90 to 98% done with all of that work.

561
00:52:43,510 --> 00:52:51,790
And once we get the green light to proceed with the bid, most of that underlying work has already been conducted by the consultant.

562
00:52:52,590 --> 00:52:54,550
So we are actually had a schedule.

563
00:52:55,670 --> 00:52:56,870
Excellent, thank you, Tom.

564
00:52:58,230 --> 00:53:01,190
I just had a question on the reimbursement portion.

565
00:53:01,630 --> 00:53:07,890
I understand that the township will have to fund the project and then be reimbursed by the state.

566
00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:16,210
Do we send our reimbursement requests in as we are invoiced by the different contractors?

567
00:53:16,910 --> 00:53:19,570
Is it quarterly or is it when the project is done?

568
00:53:19,750 --> 00:53:24,510
Give me a sense if you could of how this would work to first to get the reimbursement.

569
00:53:24,550 --> 00:53:25,510
There is a schedule.

570
00:53:26,570 --> 00:53:30,010
I'm not sure, I don't think it's every invoice that's put in its more enthased projects.

571
00:53:32,290 --> 00:53:59,750
The most important thing is the pen dot review of the reimbursement, so we'll often probably finish the section of work, send that into pen dot, their review could take a little longer, and I'm sure by that time, we'll send in another reimbursement, so it's important for us to budget appropriately so that we can understand that we will have open bills that the township will need to pay until we get each phase back, but it's to the best of my knowledge, it's not a

572
00:53:59,750 --> 00:54:05,530
100% reimbursement, it is in sections, 100% at one time, I should say.

573
00:54:05,850 --> 00:54:13,830
Yeah, looking back at the last tax agreement we had, I'd have to say it's closer to like more like a quarterly reimbursement to give you a time frame.

574
00:54:13,830 --> 00:54:22,810
It wasn't like an actual hard deadline, but it seemed to me like we were getting payments at least court on a quarterly basis.

575
00:54:23,150 --> 00:54:26,390
And was the last tax agreement for the first segment of the greenway?

576
00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:37,750
It was, it was about $567,000 and we did successfully complete that grant and we did confirm we received all of the funding that we were supposed to.

577
00:54:38,170 --> 00:54:49,830
So the townships, we at least have the administrative background even though it might have been different people working on it, but we do have the background of already having gone through this process.

578
00:54:50,490 --> 00:54:51,590
Thank you very much.

579
00:54:52,510 --> 00:54:55,030
Any other comments or questions from the board?

580
00:54:55,970 --> 00:54:57,070
Any from the public?

581
00:54:58,450 --> 00:54:59,970
Hearing and seeing none do I have a mo-

582
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,780
Motion to proceed with said resolution.

583
00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:12,220
motion. motion. motion. second, all in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Motion carries 4-0. Thank you.

584
00:55:12,220 --> 00:55:15,640
Moving on to agenda, we're going to skip down to motions.

585
00:55:16,300 --> 00:55:18,360
Board of motion 8A,

586
00:55:21,380 --> 00:55:33,720
number Collins, Captain Brown to assist with a motion to proceed with the adoption of the entire civil service eligibility list for patrol officer in the software health township police department.

587
00:55:33,720 --> 00:55:35,440
Yes, good evening, the commissioners.

588
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:41,980
The police department has conducted civil service testing for entry-level patrol officer via the Leia County Chiefs Association Consortium Test.

589
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:49,360
All aspects of the testing process have been completed to include a physical assessment, written examination and oral examination.

590
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:54,960
The Civil Service Commission has certified the eligibility list on Wednesday, March 8, 2023.

591
00:55:55,500 --> 00:55:57,260
There is no expense to this testing process.

592
00:55:57,940 --> 00:56:01,700
I am requesting the Board of Commissioner to make a motion to adopt a newly certified

593
00:56:01,700 --> 00:56:03,680
civil service list for entry-level patrol.

594
00:56:04,980 --> 00:56:06,020
Thank you, Captain Run.

595
00:56:06,660 --> 00:56:08,360
Any questions or comments from the Board?

596
00:56:09,820 --> 00:56:10,900
Anything from the public?

597
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:12,580
Hearing anything, none.

598
00:56:12,660 --> 00:56:14,600
We have a motion to approve said motion.

599
00:56:15,240 --> 00:56:15,620
Some moved.

600
00:56:15,900 --> 00:56:16,280
I'll second.

601
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:17,120
All in favor?

602
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:17,560
Aye.

603
00:56:17,820 --> 00:56:18,060
Aye.

604
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:18,840
Any opposed?

605
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:20,760
Motion carries 4-0.

606
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:21,800
Thank you.

607
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,840
I'm going to go back up then to Resolutions, Agenda Item 7-H.

608
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:36,900
We have a resolution extending conditional offers of employment for the entry level position of patrol officer in the township's police department to candidates number 6-3-3-2-3,

609
00:56:37,500 --> 00:56:52,200
number 8-0-8-4-6, and number 6-6-1-1-7, conditioned upon the individual's satisfactorily completing medical and psychological examinations to confirm their fitness for duty, and I'll again turn this over to Captain Brown.

610
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:59,620
Yes, the police department is in the hiring process for vacant entry level patrol officers.

611
00:56:59,620 --> 00:57:04,300
We have three positions open via civil service guidelines and need the board of commissioners

612
00:57:04,300 --> 00:57:08,560
to extend the conditional offer of employment to the next eligible candidates on the civil service list.

613
00:57:09,340 --> 00:57:12,940
Thank you, Captain Ron, for any board, comment or questions on this agenda item.

614
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:14,620
Any from the public?

615
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,080
Hearing and seeing none, do I have a motion to approve said motion?

616
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,280
I'll make that motion, is there a second?

617
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:24,120
Second, motion in a second on the floor, all in favor?

618
00:57:24,560 --> 00:57:25,000
Aye.

619
00:57:25,300 --> 00:57:25,940
Any opposed?

620
00:57:26,260 --> 00:57:27,800
Motion carries, 4 to 0.

621
00:57:28,140 --> 00:57:28,900
Thank you, Captain Rahm.

622
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:34,340
Jumping back down to motions at motion 8b.

623
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,940
We have a motion to approve no trespassing markings signage

624
00:57:37,940 --> 00:57:42,120
at Davis Smith Open Space Property at 1036 Springhouse Road.

625
00:57:42,700 --> 00:57:44,120
And the last temperature to present.

626
00:57:44,820 --> 00:57:45,580
Thank you.

627
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,280
So basically, recently the township received an inquiry

628
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:58,720
as to whether a resident could basically traverse the Davis Smith open space property.

629
00:57:59,260 --> 00:58:07,020
And the answer has to be no because the Davis Smith open space property is currently set

630
00:58:07,020 --> 00:58:07,880
up as an active farm.

631
00:58:07,900 --> 00:58:13,800
It's really not a township park or a place of a public gathering location.

632
00:58:15,180 --> 00:58:19,600
So generally as property owners, the township is required to maintain the Davis Smith open

633
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:24,720
in space property in a relatively safe condition so that people who come on to the property do not suffer an injury.

634
00:58:25,380 --> 00:58:33,100
The degree of liability would depend on the legal status of the visitor, the condition of the property, and the actions of both the owner and the visitor.

635
00:58:33,700 --> 00:58:41,240
Or if the person is injured as a trespasser or a child, or whether the both the owner and the visitor are at fault for an injury.

636
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:49,100
In this case, the township is not permitting public access, so visitors to the property are considered trespassers.

637
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:54,700
I know it's like a negative connotation word, but that's what they would be considered.

638
00:58:56,020 --> 00:58:59,880
In other words, you're entering the property without any right to do so.

639
00:59:00,420 --> 00:59:03,680
So there's no implied promise that the property is considered safe.

640
00:59:04,100 --> 00:59:10,760
As it is likely that people could enter the property, then the township has a duty to give reasonable warning to prevent injury.

641
00:59:11,340 --> 00:59:16,520
Under Title 18, the state crimes code, it gives lands owners the option of using purple paint,

642
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:23,020
rather than signs to post their properties as prescribed by a law, and alert others that lands are private and

643
00:59:23,020 --> 00:59:24,400
trespassing is not permitted.

644
00:59:24,660 --> 00:59:26,680
This law went into effect in 2020.

645
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:45,560
In talking over this with Township Staff, the recommendation is to use a combination of purple paint, as well as signage, indicating that the property is an active farm, and that's the reason why it is being posted as a no trespassing location.

646
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:53,980
And the idea would be to post the more direct signage at areas where there's easy access

647
00:59:53,980 --> 00:59:54,840
to the property.

648
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:59,820
and other locations we would use the purple paint primarily along the split rail fence.

649
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,940
Entries that are on the property. And the purple lines must be eight inches long and one inch wide. And the bottom of the mark must be no less than three feet or more than five feet from the ground. And paid in marks are not more than a hundred feet apart. With that, I would seek to allow us to go forward with that plan. Thank you, Tom. Thank you for bringing us to the board's attention. And for seeking out

650
01:00:29,940 --> 01:00:35,540
a solution to a resident's question on this property, I had personally never heard of

651
01:00:35,540 --> 01:00:39,960
the purple law, and I appreciate that you're going to use a combination of both signs

652
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:45,700
and the purple paint for those who may not be aware. So I'll open up any other questions

653
01:00:45,700 --> 01:00:53,720
from the board. I do have a question, a comment, I guess. I'm glad to that you're using both.

654
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:55,020
Oh, it is a question.

655
01:00:55,740 --> 01:01:00,860
Will this maybe be advertised on the website so people know this is what it is because

656
01:01:00,860 --> 01:01:04,740
honestly, before tonight's meeting, I didn't know what the purple paint wall was either.

657
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:12,480
Yeah, we can certainly do that even using the diagram that we had in the packet, which

658
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:14,880
I think is very informative and very clear and concise.

659
01:01:15,620 --> 01:01:16,200
Thank you.

660
01:01:17,420 --> 01:01:18,560
I just have one question.

661
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:25,100
question. I know you mentioned this came from a resident question, but have we had a problem

662
01:01:25,100 --> 01:01:29,580
with dress passers on this property? I don't know if we're necessarily monitoring that.

663
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:34,360
But has there been a lot of foot traffic on to the property since the attention required it?

664
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:40,260
No, no, not to my knowledge. We're just trying to be proactive. But the resident in question did ask

665
01:01:40,260 --> 01:01:45,520
if they're not allowed to go to be at the property? Why is it not posted as such? Which I thought

666
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:46,720
What was a valid question?

667
01:01:50,830 --> 01:01:52,110
Come to the microphone please.

668
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,560
Michael Hirsch, I love on Lowell Street.

669
01:01:59,700 --> 01:02:03,360
I just thought when the township owned the property,

670
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,580
maybe we would get a chance to have a sidewalk.

671
01:02:06,980 --> 01:02:10,280
The public walks on Springhouse Road to the synagogue,

672
01:02:11,540 --> 01:02:14,300
Westwood Heights, Springhouse Middle School.

673
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,800
And I thought that would be an opportunity to have a trail

674
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:19,520
or something, and we're gonna have a fence

675
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,740
where the purple is going to go.

676
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:32,140
So with regard to any improvements in that area, part of the deed restriction on that

677
01:02:32,140 --> 01:02:37,620
property is one of the exceptions is the township can put in a perimeter trail.

678
01:02:38,500 --> 01:02:46,240
And since that perimeter trail is not in place, it's not safe, and it's active agriculture

679
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,420
culture so who knows what it's really out there.

680
01:02:49,580 --> 01:02:51,580
So that's why we're doing that now.

681
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:54,620
With regard to sidewalks,

682
01:02:55,060 --> 01:02:57,580
that area has come up in conversations

683
01:02:57,980 --> 01:03:01,600
as part of our newly adopted comprehensive plan.

684
01:03:04,540 --> 01:03:07,680
So it's definitely an area that's on our radar

685
01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:10,420
and one of the implementation items

686
01:03:10,420 --> 01:03:12,360
is an active transportation plan.

687
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:16,700
and so that talks about bicycling and pedestrians

688
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,260
and making connections and corridors

689
01:03:20,260 --> 01:03:23,360
and things areas that connect,

690
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,400
in this case, a potential recreation area

691
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,220
to a school in neighborhoods.

692
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:33,880
So it's something that, as I kind of alluded to earlier,

693
01:03:34,140 --> 01:03:38,320
is establishing the process for getting these things implemented.

694
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:46,040
You know, we'll study, we'll make these recommendations and then eventually they get to cap

695
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,920
on improvements and we can start looking for grants to do things like that.

696
01:03:50,780 --> 01:03:53,420
Yes, I won't advocate on your person.

697
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:54,400
I'm there too.

698
01:03:54,980 --> 01:03:56,180
Thank you for your question.

699
01:03:57,000 --> 01:03:59,540
So any other public comment on this motion?

700
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:03,920
Any from the public online?

701
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:05,660
None online?

702
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:06,560
Nothing.

703
01:04:09,360 --> 01:04:11,700
At this time do we have a motion to approve said motion?

704
01:04:11,700 --> 01:04:14,400
A second, all in favor?

705
01:04:14,740 --> 01:04:14,920
Aye.

706
01:04:15,060 --> 01:04:15,400
Aye.

707
01:04:15,700 --> 01:04:16,080
Any opposed?

708
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:17,740
Motion carries, 4 to 0.

709
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,500
Moving on to agenda item 8C.

710
01:04:20,500 --> 01:04:25,320
We have a motion to proceed with the installation of three temporary sewer meters at Dornie Park.

711
01:04:25,740 --> 01:04:28,820
And I'll ask our director of township operations her vendor to present.

712
01:04:30,700 --> 01:04:30,880
Yes.

713
01:04:31,140 --> 01:04:36,440
Public work sewer division is respectfully asking permission to move forward with installing three

714
01:04:36,440 --> 01:04:42,040
temporary sewer meters just outside Dornie Park to make sure the sewer readings are

715
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,320
We are coinciding with the water meter readings.

716
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:49,100
Basin 51 is one of the basins we have significant eye and eye,

717
01:04:49,500 --> 01:04:50,920
getting into the sewer lines.

718
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:56,000
Attached to the memo is a map of where the temporary meters would be installed.

719
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:58,340
We have solicited two quotes.

720
01:04:58,540 --> 01:04:59,980
One was from Mr. Rehab.

721
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:29,900
For $13,050, and the other quote was from Flow Assessment Services for $28,950. These meters will be installed for three months, April, May, and June for the wet weather conditions and months. The action we're requesting is approving a motion to proceed with installing three temporary sewer meters. And this money will be taken out of the EPA sanitary

722
01:05:29,900 --> 01:05:35,020
We sue our repairs capital, which was budgeted for $285,000.

723
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:48,700
The reason we will be fine to cover this $13,050 is we have done most of our work in the presidential area that was supposed to be outsourced to a contractor.

724
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:54,480
We have done it all in-house, so we have saved significant amount of money doing that already.

725
01:05:54,480 --> 01:06:01,240
And with talking to Dornie Park, they are an agreeance to pay for 50% of these meters also.

726
01:06:02,140 --> 01:06:06,200
So our portion will only be half of that $13,050.

727
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:08,440
Thank you, Herb.

728
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:12,860
And thank you for working with Dornie Park to partner with the township for this.

729
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:17,040
One of our other questions or comments on this agenda item.

730
01:06:18,020 --> 01:06:22,100
I had one comment, I just thought it was a big gap between the two estimates.

731
01:06:22,940 --> 01:06:28,200
Yeah, there's other companies out there, but these two are very good at it, and we want

732
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:33,420
to get precise numbers since this is part of the Climb's Island problem and the I and

733
01:06:33,420 --> 01:06:36,760
I, so we want to get very good data.

734
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:37,340
Any

735
01:06:40,090 --> 01:06:41,070
other comments from the board?

736
01:06:41,990 --> 01:06:42,790
Any from the public?

737
01:06:43,570 --> 01:06:46,090
Hearing and seeing none, do I have a motion to proceed with said motion?

738
01:06:47,250 --> 01:06:48,410
I'll make that motion, is there a second?

739
01:06:48,570 --> 01:06:48,850
Second.

740
01:06:49,450 --> 01:06:50,210
All in favor?

741
01:06:50,750 --> 01:06:50,910
Aye.

742
01:06:51,030 --> 01:06:51,250
Aye.

743
01:06:51,630 --> 01:06:52,110
Any opposed?

744
01:06:52,110 --> 01:06:53,750
motion carries 4 to 0.

745
01:06:53,970 --> 01:06:55,230
Moving on to agenda item 9.

746
01:06:55,830 --> 01:06:58,350
Thank you, her correspondence and information items.

747
01:06:58,590 --> 01:07:01,290
I'll turn it over to Tom to review our upcoming meetings.

748
01:07:02,750 --> 01:07:03,430
Thank you.

749
01:07:07,690 --> 01:07:08,570
Lost on the area.

750
01:07:09,410 --> 01:07:12,150
Okay, upcoming meetings for which the details are posted

751
01:07:12,150 --> 01:07:15,750
on the website, or as follows, Thursday, March 16th,

752
01:07:15,750 --> 01:07:18,370
7.30 p.m. tomorrow, the Planning Commission,

753
01:07:19,150 --> 01:07:21,830
Monday, March 20th, 6 p.m., the Green Advisory Council,

754
01:07:21,830 --> 01:07:28,730
Also Tuesday, March 21st, 6 p.m. crime watch meeting and Wednesday, March 22nd, 7 p.m. zoning

755
01:07:28,730 --> 01:07:31,950
hearing board. All meetings will be held here at the township.

756
01:07:32,730 --> 01:07:37,210
Excellent, thank you. Moving on to agenda item 10, direction and discussion.

757
01:07:37,410 --> 01:07:42,130
agenda item A, we have the resignation of a planning commission member effective early

758
01:07:42,130 --> 01:07:45,030
June of 2023 and Tom, if you'd present.

759
01:07:46,670 --> 01:07:47,490
Thank you.

760
01:07:48,170 --> 01:07:54,490
Yes, so we have received one notice that a Township Planning Commission member is going

761
01:07:54,490 --> 01:08:01,170
to be moving out of the Township effective in the beginning of June, so then I am seeking

762
01:08:01,170 --> 01:08:08,170
at this point permission to proceed in accordance with the citizen advisory policy to advertise

763
01:08:08,170 --> 01:08:12,070
for that notice of position on both the Township website as well as the Parkland Press and

764
01:08:12,070 --> 01:08:21,370
to try to gain applications for which an interview would be scheduled at a later date at a subsequent public meeting of the board.

765
01:08:21,790 --> 01:08:28,130
Excellent. I'm just curious, is it too late to put an announcement in the newsletter that's going out?

766
01:08:28,710 --> 01:08:41,350
I don't believe it's too late, so the only question would be when the newsletter is going out, it may not hit and it's going to hit right probably at the same time when you're maybe conducting interviews.

767
01:08:41,350 --> 01:08:42,510
That would be my only concern.

768
01:08:46,100 --> 01:08:48,220
Any board comments on this agenda?

769
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:55,880
My only question is, are we allowed to conduct interviews before the resignation is effective in early June?

770
01:08:56,060 --> 01:09:01,540
Or will we have to wait until the resignation is effective before we?

771
01:09:02,620 --> 01:09:05,480
I think you can accept the resignation at any time.

772
01:09:06,820 --> 01:09:13,720
So, I mean to me, I think you have to be proactive because the planning commission is a very important agency of the talent ship.

773
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:20,000
So unless Attorney Zaydor sees a problem with it, I personally can identify an issue with it.

774
01:09:20,180 --> 01:09:24,980
I agree with the Township Manager, not only is it prudent, but there's no legal impediment to proceeding that way.

775
01:09:29,150 --> 01:09:30,090
I have no feedback.

776
01:09:30,290 --> 01:09:34,310
I think it's the plan that you have in place to go ahead and proceed is excellent.

777
01:09:35,450 --> 01:09:38,810
Any other comment from the board for direction?

778
01:09:42,010 --> 01:09:45,010
Moving on to agenda item 10B.

779
01:09:45,010 --> 01:09:50,130
The Ridge Farms Phase 1 signalized intersection plans to see the crystal of art and

780
01:09:50,130 --> 01:09:55,130
Walbert Avenue confirmation of powder-coded black color for mast, arms, poles, and all

781
01:09:55,130 --> 01:09:55,970
other components.

782
01:09:56,910 --> 01:09:58,690
I'll ask our township managers to present.

783
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:29,680
Thank you. So, as part of the HOP work for rich farms, the developer, K Walbert, has agreed to provide powder coded, mass storms, poles, as well as controller, and all other associated equipment for the signalized intersection upgrades that are slated to take place at that location. I wanted to just make sure the board was aware of this, and that it is the intention of the township to try to seek

784
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:39,160
to allow for this type of aesthetic upgrade for all signalized intersections in the future along that corridor, if possible.

785
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:48,020
And assuming no objections to this, we would then notify the developer to go ahead and order the items,

786
01:10:48,440 --> 01:10:51,460
especially given the long lead time for these items.

787
01:10:52,420 --> 01:10:54,540
Thank you for bringing that to our attention.

788
01:10:55,020 --> 01:10:56,100
I'm certainly in favor of this.

789
01:10:56,260 --> 01:11:00,080
I think it'll be a great upgrade aesthetically for the township.

790
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,580
Any other comment from the board?

791
01:11:04,380 --> 01:11:04,820
I have a comment.

792
01:11:05,020 --> 01:11:06,000
Thank you, Commissioner Kelly.

793
01:11:06,900 --> 01:11:08,480
Tom, thank you for the explanation.

794
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:13,580
I really, you know, we talk about the comprehensive plan and

795
01:11:13,580 --> 01:11:17,620
consideration of zoning, rezoning, amended zoning.

796
01:11:17,620 --> 01:11:26,440
But one of the things that often gets overlooked is the aesthetics of what it is that is legally allowed to be placed where it's placed.

797
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:31,760
This to me is such a nice thing to start.

798
01:11:33,620 --> 01:11:39,540
As I travel west on 22, get off on Cedar Cress Boulevard.

799
01:11:39,700 --> 01:11:44,560
What I see to the right is not a very nice entrance into South Whitehall.

800
01:11:44,560 --> 01:12:01,480
We can't do anything about that, but what we can do is what you're doing, and that is the next major intersection after that going north on Cedar Crest can have a nice aesthetic look, especially if we can make it uniform, you know, as it applies.

801
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:09,560
That's something that we can do that adds a lot of attractiveness to the township.

802
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:16,460
So thank you very much to you and staff for thinking about that because it's often overlooked, but it really is so important.

803
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,820
It's part branding, too, in a way, right?

804
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,780
We did ask for it as well for the 3-0-9 Betterment Project.

805
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,740
I don't believe we've received confirmation on that to date, have we?

806
01:12:28,860 --> 01:12:38,060
So they did ask for the specs for it, and the idea is to ask for the corridor.

807
01:12:38,060 --> 01:13:01,000
So it would start with the Walbert 309 and then as we go down or make upgrades or grant funding becomes available, we have all of our lights in the palm along this cord or as a starting point in that uniform color is kind of the intent.

808
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:07,780
And so the Pendot is receptive to including that at that intersection.

809
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:14,600
We'll see how that goes, but as of right now, they are receptive to it.

810
01:13:17,700 --> 01:13:21,520
I think, and I talked my only with Dave and I think Tom and her too.

811
01:13:21,740 --> 01:13:28,680
I think that we've asked for it and Rich Farm said, okay, which was great.

812
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:32,460
Is it benefit to the township, but I think that if, you know,

813
01:13:32,460 --> 01:13:37,560
the township or the board chooses to, we can implement this by adding into our standard

814
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:43,820
construction documents. So instead of it being an ask and either someone saying no, or we don't

815
01:13:43,820 --> 01:13:51,400
want to, we can almost make it a standard. So I think that probably with staff's help developing

816
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:56,780
either a plan of this is a corridor we want from here to here or from here to here and we want

817
01:13:56,780 --> 01:14:02,160
to do this one too. Or we want to do all of them in the township however it comes out, we

818
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:09,580
could add that to the construction specifications and then it gets adopted and then it's, I don't

819
01:14:09,580 --> 01:14:13,460
want to say instant, but almost instant from that point forward that the developers are,

820
01:14:13,740 --> 01:14:16,100
it's a requirement rather than a, an ask.

821
01:14:16,860 --> 01:14:24,520
So I think that thought behind the board, if you see corridors, I think a corridor's, that

822
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,440
would be a great way to start the process.

823
01:14:27,100 --> 01:14:33,860
Thank you for adding that Tommy I appreciate that comment and I would certainly be an agreement to looking into that as a standard.

824
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:43,520
We're actually in the process of working with Tony's office to update the many specifications for the construction standards so that will be a future agenda item in the near future.

825
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,440
And one of the things he talked about in the Newly Adoptic

826
01:14:46,440 --> 01:14:53,120
Plan was the looking at corridors and, you know, identifying

827
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:58,440
areas that are appropriate for enhanced streetscape, like

828
01:14:58,440 --> 01:14:59,020
poles.

829
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:09,200
All that. So, that's incorporated in that plan. Very exciting things. So, that's coming in the implementation of the newly adopted plan.

830
01:15:13,970 --> 01:15:32,590
There's no other comments moving on to direction and discussion item c, solid waste, recycling contract with waste management, notification of termination of current contract, effective 12, 31, 20, 23, and temperature, if you'd please present. Thank you. So, no official action is requested.

831
01:15:32,590 --> 01:15:39,110
from the board this evening, but I did want to update you that pursue into the legal contract

832
01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:44,390
between the Township and Waste Management. Waste Management has provided a certified letter

833
01:15:44,390 --> 01:15:48,310
that they will not be extending the Township's current solid waste and recycling contract,

834
01:15:48,530 --> 01:15:56,150
the beyond the end of 2023. The reasons that were cited included external and economic factors.

835
01:15:56,910 --> 01:16:03,770
So the township will have to proceed with the new bid, so that we are ensuring that as

836
01:16:03,770 --> 01:16:07,570
of 1-1-20-24, that we have a contract in place.

837
01:16:08,750 --> 01:16:14,130
To that effect, I have assembled a task force consisting of the employees that have the

838
01:16:14,130 --> 01:16:19,490
most direct knowledge of the operation of the current contract and can provide valuable

839
01:16:19,490 --> 01:16:25,430
input to the township and how the service options should be construed for the next contract.

840
01:16:25,430 --> 01:16:32,470
So with that, we will be working to provide you with options for your consideration at subsequent meetings.

841
01:16:33,410 --> 01:16:40,990
And the intent would be to revise the specifications and then have them go before the board as well as a legal review.

842
01:16:42,350 --> 01:16:50,430
Excellent Tom, thank you, thank you for bringing that to our attention and we certainly do look forward to future information as you and the task force move forward with this.

843
01:16:50,430 --> 01:16:53,770
Any other board comment on this agenda item?

844
01:16:54,330 --> 01:16:57,110
Okay, moving on to direction and discussion item D.

845
01:16:57,750 --> 01:17:06,630
Ridge Farms, K-builders, Wallward Avenue, and Cedocrestville of our HOP Improvement Project noise ordinance overnight construction operations request.

846
01:17:07,330 --> 01:17:09,850
Tom, I will ask you to present on this as well.

847
01:17:10,730 --> 01:17:11,250
Thank you.

848
01:17:11,830 --> 01:17:16,230
So for the Ridge Farm phase one project, the HOP has been approved.

849
01:17:16,230 --> 01:17:25,090
The first phase of the work includes stormwater piping to run across Walbert Avenue at four locations at Walbert Avenue in Cedar Crust Boulevard.

850
01:17:26,310 --> 01:17:37,810
Due to the anticipated traffic congestion for these pipe crossing installations, Ridge Farm is requesting to mitigate traffic delays by working overnight.

851
01:17:41,050 --> 01:17:47,750
primarily the time period of working would be limited to 9 p.m. the 12 a.m. and 4 a.m.

852
01:17:47,750 --> 01:17:54,710
to 7 a.m. So there will be some type of use of hydraulic hammers, saw cutting with the

853
01:17:54,710 --> 01:18:03,010
roadway as well as general excavation type of equipment in use. However, as part of that,

854
01:18:03,670 --> 01:18:08,710
You know, there's also a plan in place whereby, you know, dumb trucks would not be permitted

855
01:18:08,710 --> 01:18:13,590
to swing the tailgates and assist in dumping material from their better chassis, which

856
01:18:13,590 --> 01:18:17,010
can be very, as if you've heard it, very disturbing sounds.

857
01:18:18,190 --> 01:18:25,070
You know, basically, tamping machines would be used solely for compaction materials.

858
01:18:25,270 --> 01:18:28,610
They're trying to minimize the disturbance as much as they can.

859
01:18:31,090 --> 01:18:33,910
Herbender and I did look at the HOP itself.

860
01:18:35,630 --> 01:18:44,630
Basically, the developer is not permitted to restrict traffic during AM or PM rush hour

861
01:18:44,630 --> 01:18:50,630
times anyway, so this night work is almost essential in that case in order for them to proceed

862
01:18:50,630 --> 01:18:51,190
with the work.

863
01:18:51,190 --> 01:19:03,180
work, the township views the overnight work as a compromise in terms of not impacting

864
01:19:03,180 --> 01:19:12,140
the corridor with traffic during the day, which would be more of a impact to the overall

865
01:19:12,140 --> 01:19:12,660
township.

866
01:19:14,060 --> 01:19:22,520
So to that effect, we would be notifying any impacted areas, which would be primarily

867
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:29,520
long like Shenandoah Court, the homes that are located there, in order to try to make

868
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:37,020
sure that everyone's aware of this work taking place. Her vendor has implemented a schedule

869
01:19:37,020 --> 01:19:44,480
whereby his either himself or other employees would be monitoring this work, and if there

870
01:19:44,480 --> 01:19:49,720
is an excessive noise disturbance, then they would be able to readily respond on site.

871
01:19:50,620 --> 01:19:53,880
So, we're doing everything we can to try to minimize the impact.

872
01:19:54,660 --> 01:19:59,360
I just wanted to make sure that the board is aware of this and whether you are in line

873
01:19:59,360 --> 01:19:59,900
with

874
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:29,720
Are thought presses? Thank you, Tom. I appreciate you and Herb and all the staff involved that you're doing everything that you can to alert our citizens and to have their safety and their livelihoods and time at home protected as much as we can as a township. So thank you for having them. First and foremost, as we look at this growth is always a little bit painful and it's going to be a little bit difficult.

875
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:32,760
when they're doing that road work, but we know that it needs to be done.

876
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:40,560
So I appreciate all the work and the outreach to the residents through NICSLE and other methods so that everyone's aware.

877
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:42,700
Anyone else have any comments?

878
01:20:44,380 --> 01:20:44,940
Thank you.

879
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:46,100
Thank you.

880
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:49,580
Moving on to agenda item 10E.

881
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:54,200
Transportation needs assessment for inclusion on transportation improvement plan.

882
01:20:54,200 --> 01:21:01,060
Lehigh Valley Planning Commission, Lehigh Valley Transportation Study, and I will, will you take this one as well?

883
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:07,020
Yeah, I'll provide an overview and then, if there's any more specific questions, I will turn it over to Dave Mannharn.

884
01:21:08,580 --> 01:21:15,280
But the township did receive notification that the Lehigh Valley Planning Commission has begun their transportation needs assessment.

885
01:21:15,620 --> 01:21:23,180
So what that is is basically, it's a series of meetings that will help shape the next

886
01:21:25,140 --> 01:21:30,960
transportation plan, so transportation planning typically covers a period of about 25 years.

887
01:21:31,540 --> 01:21:39,540
The current document is entitled Future LV, so it's actually available on the Lehigh Valley Planning Commission website.

888
01:21:40,180 --> 01:21:50,140
But essentially the plan is divided in a short range, mid range, and long range elements, including the transportation improvements plan.

889
01:21:50,860 --> 01:22:12,020
So those projects are those that are likely to begin during a four year period, mid-range projects are comprised of projects that had not started during the four year period of the transportation improvement plan and they're slated to begin in 2023, 2030 and long range projects are candidate projects to be programmed in the future years, 2031, the 2045.

890
01:22:12,020 --> 01:22:18,480
The Township Doves have a scheduled meeting this Friday with other surrounding municipalities

891
01:22:18,480 --> 01:22:26,400
as well as LVPC to begin to try to work on reviewing the current projects to include

892
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:32,060
potential new projects and to ensure that the projects that are being reviewed are consistent

893
01:22:32,060 --> 01:22:39,160
for the region and consistent with other planning documents as well as our newly adopted comprehensive

894
01:22:39,160 --> 01:22:39,520
plan.

895
01:22:41,580 --> 01:22:54,240
So, basically we did provide a summary list for you of some of the current items that are already on the plan, as well as other items that we would like to see added to the plan.

896
01:22:55,220 --> 01:22:59,960
So we're going to review that more in depth, just wanted to make you aware of it.

897
01:23:00,340 --> 01:23:03,920
The final list may be subject to change depending on the outcome of those reviews.

898
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:09,520
But we want to make sure that we are being proactive.

899
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,420
We're staying on top of this process so that we can make sure self-weight health

900
01:23:12,420 --> 01:23:17,420
health is represented in the planning documents for transportation.

901
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:19,420
Excellent, Tom.

902
01:23:19,580 --> 01:23:22,980
Thank you very much for that information and for keeping us informed.

903
01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:30,900
Are there any board comments or questions, any from the public moving on to old business?

904
01:23:30,900 --> 01:23:42,320
we have none. Agenda item 12, courtesy of the floor. Again, opportunity for any member of the public to address the board for any non-agenda items. Is there anyone here who would like to address the board?

905
01:23:43,260 --> 01:23:44,160
Anyone online?

906
01:23:45,020 --> 01:23:51,320
Okay, hearing and seeing none, moving on to agenda item 1390 in motion to authorize payment of invoices and disbursements.

907
01:23:51,940 --> 01:23:52,500
Some moved.

908
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:52,860
Second.

909
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:54,460
Motion in a second, all in favor?

910
01:23:54,820 --> 01:23:55,020
Aye.

911
01:23:55,020 --> 01:23:55,360
Aye.

912
01:23:55,980 --> 01:23:56,460
Any opposed?

913
01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:57,880
Motion carries 4-0.

914
01:23:58,100 --> 01:24:00,800
We have no executive session scheduled this evening.

915
01:24:00,900 --> 01:24:02,100
I need a motion to adjourn.

916
01:24:02,660 --> 01:24:03,220
Commissioner Kelly.

917
01:24:04,720 --> 01:24:07,080
Before we have the motion, may I make a comment, please?

918
01:24:07,260 --> 01:24:07,440
Of course.

919
01:24:08,020 --> 01:24:15,900
You've always run a very efficient meeting, and it seems longer than it's been, but it looks like we're done in 25 minutes.

920
01:24:16,180 --> 01:24:17,700
So congratulations.

921
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:19,700
That is a miracle I have performed.

922
01:24:22,730 --> 01:24:24,090
Thank you, Commissioner Osborne.

923
01:24:25,210 --> 01:24:27,230
So I need a motion to adjourn.

924
01:24:27,810 --> 01:24:28,550
So moved.

925
01:24:29,210 --> 01:24:29,690
Second.

926
01:24:30,010 --> 01:24:30,570
All in favor?

927
01:24:31,090 --> 01:24:31,390
Aye.

928
01:24:31,850 --> 01:24:32,510
Motion carries.

929
01:24:32,770 --> 01:24:33,510
Have a good evening everyone.

930
01:24:33,690 --> 01:24:34,030
Thank you.