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Good evening. This is the October 14, 2025 meeting of the Council of Windsor Planning and Zoning Commission. All of our regular members of President.

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We go on with our public hearing. I just like to make a couple of comments. First of all, I think we all should think about what's happening to the people in Jamaica.

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We visited Jamaica, a non-standard way, we rented a villa, we hired a driver, and we went

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up into the hills, and we saw the kind of dwellings that some of the people were living

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in which were basically tarpolins and pieces of plywood kind of built into dwellings.

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And the electricity was strong on extension cords from one dwelling to the next.

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I don't know where they tapped in, but those dwellings are just going to disappear in

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this storm.

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It's a very, very, very certain amount of strength went, so that's just going to be

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a horrible thing.

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And then I have to, of course, comment, this is my last time, as a member of the Planning

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and its own commission, I was going back through a little history, I was appointed to

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CBA in September 2000, thanks to the large app made, democratic town committee leader.

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And you'll never guess who was the staff member present in that meeting.

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Go ahead and enjoy this meeting.

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I'm so glad to hear.

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I've been with me for 25 years.

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You know, I'm CBA for 12 years.

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was the council liaison, the planning and zoning, with an alternate 2013. I got to be a regular

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and I mean, I've enjoyed every minute of it such a fascinating part of our government.

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So I'm

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looking forward to retiring from this, but I'm also looking back on some really interesting times.

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So we're going to have a public hearing. We'll ask the secretary to read the notice.

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Stand up.

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Legs of allegiance.

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By the allegiance to the flag of the United States.

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To the republic, the republic of France, one nation.

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Not a big lie.

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Invisible with liberty and justice for all.

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It's already forgotten the pledge of allegiance.

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Okay, now we'll ask the secretary to read the notes.

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Notice this here by given that there will be a public hearing on Tuesday, October 28th,

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at 7 p.m. in the Madden Room on the downstairs level of the thousands of child hall to consider the following.

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Number one, application 25-47p, the tele-resub division and detached accessory apartment.

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This is a request for a two-lot resub division of 2.3 acres, including one lot with an existing house and detached accessory apartment.

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On property located at 89 Griffin Road, age 20 zone, copies of the applications are on

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filing the office of the town clerk and on a planning department and online at self-winsure-ct.gov-slash

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planning.

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Of this hearing, interested persons may be heard and written comments by the public will

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be received by mail or email persons who may require an accommodation and contact staff at

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It's zero, six, four, four, two, five, one, one,

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extension, two, three, two, nine.

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Steven Wagner, chair,

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mining and zoning commission.

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I just do want to make a correction.

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I said this was like cover 14.

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It's like cover 28.

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And the way we do our public carry,

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is we listen to the applicant.

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They present whatever material they have, the present.

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Then we ask the staff to comment.

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Usually, in our director planning and possibly

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system planner. Well that's something to say. At that point, we opened the hearing

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the members of the public who can speak to you in the paper or against or have

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comments and questions, something they want to see changed. Finally, we go to the

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commissioners who will be asking questions of any nature or making comments of

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nature. If you do speak as a member of the public and you have questions, we won't answer them

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at the time you speak but we will get around to that when the commissioners are picking their

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So, an applicant for an application 2547-P?

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Well, I've been fine.

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Okay, thank you.

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Okay.

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Good to know.

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I'm going to tell the owner of 389 Griffin Road.

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He's been looking for a resub division because of 3 buildings on the lot now.

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It's just to make it legal to say.

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And just to go along with living in one of these two buildings,

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and the fact that they're on off the floor.

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I hope we'll see what the future seems to be.

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So.

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Please, my name is Jack.

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You'll mark me on the day on survey.

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Finally, we're growing now on transition and moving.

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And so we're using my addresses.

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Nine megad parts.

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I'm going to address it.

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I usually put out a book for the second.

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Okay.

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What we got here is three houses on one part.

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So if the persons listed in the 389, there are also two other mailboxes on the property

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of the public.

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If they have the eight mailing address of 387 and 385.

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So you're spoken about your longevity.

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And I'm just telling Kevin.

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I'm in front of the movie of a 40-second street.

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If you remember the decision on the where Santa Claus would have to really leave a middle

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and address this for the property.

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So what we're going to try to do is basically what Kevin says is try to clean up a lot to make it basically legal.

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So it's two point two acres apart land. There's wetlands in the back. We have 150, 100 foot buffer line.

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We're not proposing to do anything to the property. We're not looking to build anything.

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At this point we have where you'll see when I turn the next page of we've explored the planning and it talked about whether we want to put a garage in at one time or not.

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Now, so the Commission may be aware whether we are regular or not, which is, we'll go through the front of the process, we'll get to that level.

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So what we're going to, what we're going to do is switch with property into two parcels and what I kind of highlighted in the yellow is where the boundary line is going to be between the two.

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Again, we're not doing anything with the wetlands or any of them.

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I'll talk to you in a few areas.

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We're not doing anything.

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We're creating everything else.

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The houses are in the septic systems.

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We're renting these two houses.

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This house is serviced with water and sewer from the room.

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And gas.

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We've recently been planning on it.

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Look, what we're looking to do.

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You see this hatch here right here.

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This is a drive that comes to sweeping around.

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was all the way through the property, because of the encroachment stuff that we were looking

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to take this part of the driveway out at one point. Again, the Nakedite Dream space, so that's

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the only thing that we're doing, we're making it more of a purvious, if you listen, in a sense.

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We do have a well back here, which is servicing all three parcels, is a water line going over to

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this house which we did so in this connective and as a waterline going over here and obviously

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servicing that property. When we met with staff who were talking about where we go with

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this and you'll see in our next drawing we're looking to we put in that we're looking to have

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you waterline is coming in. The question came up with the health department of one of us to

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continue to have one well service in two buildings, or would they prefer to have new

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water lines coming and off the street to these two different properties. And so for that

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review, they'll make that decision prepared on the site plan to keep the well, keep it.

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If they suggest we don't, we're we're also proposing to showing that we're looking to cut a new

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what align and come into the property.

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There is a double pull out here.

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There's a pull and also inside the property

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that we have direct electricity over here.

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A lot of the power comes in and goes off to the two buildings.

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So I know one of the comments we got from staff was

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any new electrical would be underground.

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We don't need to.

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It's there.

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They're service to all the buildings.

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The third thing, really good here, back to this slide.

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The other thing that came up in recent conversation, when we had a, we had a, we had a

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site visit with the, the, uh, uh, weapons representative from the town and planning, and it came

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to, uh, it was a question about whether we would be willing to give a conservation.

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These were not a property, and we basically said fine, you know, when we have no problem with it,

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the land in the back is town property, it's already, so this is kind of what it does is you've

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ever broke down below here and what it does by give us the conservation in the kind of

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protect stepbook more now that there's no no activity can be in it, so now this side from

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that ridge, and basically how we define this easement is by the ridge line, so from the ridge

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this way, the route is further protected now from the sign.

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What else we're doing?

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And that's pretty much it.

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There's two of those added.

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My way is for the two properties.

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I think we've recently got a comment from the engineering

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about to do.

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The fire trucks come in there.

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There were comments from engineering,

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which, yeah, I mean, I'm happy to read them.

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I will get to that.

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So basically Kevin says we're making a wrong right.

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You got three houses on a property.

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This there is a permit.

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There was a ticket permit.

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I think it was 1956.

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It's been for this building.

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I think the honestly not knowing the history of the property.

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I think what might have been this was the original farmhouse.

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house, we went from the lawn and clear and then cleaned out, we found out there's a foundation

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in here, that will be removed because it's over the, you know, it's an encroachment on

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the two lines.

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So we're looking to take that out, clean that out, and I think this might have been the original

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knowledge and that this was a parish house put in and, you know, nobody really cared back

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then, but it's not right.

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So we're trying to do a separate fit to lots.

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One of the stipulations in the regulation, as far as having this, is that the owner has to live in a property.

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It can't be these style or assembly, starting like that.

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So the owner, you continue this use of these two buildings.

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It has to be owner occupied, which we, again, agreed to.

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Other than that, it's good, there are acre plus lots, good size lots, beautiful looking field back there.

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It's going to be protected off.

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Anything else?

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Okay.

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In that case, Tom's about.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you Mr. Chairman.

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Okay, so this is a request for a two library subdivision of 2.3 acres, including one lot with an existing house

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and detached success requirement for a property located at 3-8 in anger from road each

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20 zone. So this is a historic property, the principal dwelling number 3-9 dates back to

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1800 and it appears that additional dwellings number 387 and number 385 were built in 1957

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in 1948, respectively. One we found that the building records for these structures are unclear,

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only one accessory dwelling unit can be documented through the building files.

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Our zoning regulations do not allow for three dwellings on the property.

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So this resubdusion would rectify the non-conforming condition.

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5-designating number 387 as the principal dwelling on the newly created lot 385 would then become

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the accessory apartment to that.

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But this application appears to comply with our zoning regulation, except for the front yard

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sap back of number 3.89.

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However, since the structure was built in 1800, it is legally not conforming.

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A lot of areas of both proposed properties exceed 20,000 square foot minimum, a lot size,

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side and rear yard sap backs, and front-age all exceed required minimums.

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Lot coverage is our well below the maximum percentage.

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One item is that the required columns of the zoning tables shown on the plans need to be

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to be accurate to our age-20 requirements.

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So, under normal circumstances,

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accessory apartments are capped at either 30% of the usable

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floor area of the primary dwelling or a 1,000 square feet,

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whichever is smaller.

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Additionally, when the accessory department is detached,

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they can't be closer than 30 feet to the property line,

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and zones where the setback is less than 30 feet.

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Since this dwelling unit was constructed in 1948,

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under a section of the regulations that allowed

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for domestic housing.

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As it was called, it's being considered an existing non-conforming accessory apartment, considering

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this staff has suggested an approval condition stating that the successor apartment shall not be permitted to increase in size.

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As part of our zoning regulations, accessory apartments, as the applicant noted, are not permitted to be short-termensals,

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and shall not have more than two veterans, properties of the accessory department shall be on our

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occupied, either in the principal's dwelling or the accessory apartment, and the plan to

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partner requires a free affirmation of this by the property on our every four years.

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Both properties will be served by public water and septic systems as the applicant discussed,

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waiting on information from the health department as to whether the existing well will be abandoned,

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when there are water lines will be brought in.

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There is an existing loop drive on the property that's proposed to be severed,

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so each property has its own private driveway.

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Sufficient parking on lock 3A shall be provided.

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Our regulations require two spaces per dwelling unit

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and one space per bedroom in accessory departments.

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PCC may want to inquire about the maneuverability of the lock 3A driveway.

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some placeholder vehicles are shown on drawing number three.

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Additionally, there are regulated wetlands on site.

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A minimum impact application through the NLWMJC and Conservation Commission has been filed and approved.

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As discussed, the conservation easement is being agreed to by the applicant.

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This would a legal description and meet some bounds description would end up being prepared by the applicant for view by the town and upon acceptance will be filed on land records.

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I do have additional comments from Tories, Sedoti, Tannage, and here.

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Number one, please provide me in some protection of traffic measures for the Waterline

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Connection and Griffin Roan.

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Standard and maintenance protection of traffic details can be found under 097101A.

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Traffic control plans and typical materials in the link below.

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There is a link provided.

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Number two, due to a portion of the driveway being removed, emergency vehicles will have difficulty turning around.

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Please show turning movements of emergency vehicles within the new driveway limits.

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Number three, please provide updated plans and details for a view.

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If additional site plan improvements are promoted in the future.

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If you have any questions, please be sure to contact me.

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Thank you.

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I'll note that I did speak to the fire Marshall about the driveways and he did not have any great concerns because they are existing.

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So, that's just in addition to Senator Giers' comments.

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If this application is approved, Planned Department requests that the lots shall be labeled as a lot one and lot two as opposed to a lot three M3A.

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And that concludes staff now.

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Thank you.

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Members of the public, anybody wish to speak on this application.

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Seeing none, move on to members of the Commission.

242
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Commissioner Kevin Nero.

243
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Thank you.

244
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I just want to put a good question.

245
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With the two new units that are being split off into a different parcel,

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be I like the, I'm not sure if you said it during the presentation.

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should give like the bedroom counts of what you

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hypothetically thinking because you mean you are capped at

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too but i'm curious if it's going to be like one better or two better

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or even like an efficiency you know

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use a 387 with most likely to be a two bedroom

252
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this one in the middle and then for the assessor unit it's

253
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basically torn down inside so mostly just be a one better

254
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okay so we do

255
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the assessor unit is the middle unit

256
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okay so that's just so we're clear

257
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This is the middle unit and the other unit would not be limited in size, right?

258
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Yeah, the unit would be interested in the regular single family house and could be any size.

259
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It's still good to learn.

260
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Yep, yep.

261
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That's it, thank you.

262
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Mr. Repair.

263
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And you said the two, so each have their own driveway?

264
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Well, no, the, yeah.

265
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Well, yes.

266
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The big house will have a driveway and then the other two together,

267
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and the rest of the driveway.

268
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And then there's parking area over here and then, as I think on one of the sheets I showed, excuse me, I feel like we're at two cars with fifth.

269
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Bill, can I start?

270
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And then for the turnaround that they're requesting for emergency vehicles, there's enough room to.

271
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I don't, I'm 100% I think what they're looking at is if they were coming in and they got back here.

272
00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,690
Okay, you know, what would happen, but I believe this is a fire hydrant out over here

273
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These houses are close enough to street. They may not need to go within a property. Okay, it's pretty wide open and I honestly speaking

274
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This is just my opinion and I don't know totally what's gonna happen

275
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But when usually when people tear out driveways

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They take the black top out. They put top so down so the base will probably be there underneath

277
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So if a truck wanted to drive through

278
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I don't think that there'd be a father than sinking in or there'd be a version of ground.

279
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It's going to be the, I mean, that's my opinion.

280
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Okay.

281
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I did not his.

282
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Who was it?

283
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Mr. Murphy.

284
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A little clarification on some of the questions that Commissioner Kevin the arrow has.

285
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So, Mr. Patel, you're living in 387.

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That's your primary residence.

287
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Yes.

288
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And 385 becomes the accessory apartment.

289
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385.

290
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385, I'm sorry, becomes the accessory apartment.

291
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And that cannot be short-term.

292
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So that's going to be a long-term rental.

293
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The owner can be in either building.

294
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It can't be a short term.

295
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It cannot be a capital.

296
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Can it be multifamily, the rental unit, no, one family, and then the third unit is house

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389, 39 is a house, yes, and house that being used, this will be split off as a private

298
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of the residents. Okay. So, for sale, are you on it for sale?

299
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It was like that. In the shell, did you say that the fire

300
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Marshall has checked off on this? I talked to, yeah, I talked to

301
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Walter Summers. Yeah, he did not have, he did not have great concerns

302
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with it. It was a turning, the turning radius issue, not an issue. And

303
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there would be no, I would imagine there would be no application or need

304
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use for a school bus to need to turn around?

305
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,700
No, no, I can't imagine that.

306
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No, I can't.

307
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That's all I have thanks to Mr. Paul.

308
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I have nothing.

309
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I have nothing.

310
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A couple of questions.

311
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It's up to you, but you know, having city water, especially when you have property towards the back.

312
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Sure, fire marshall would agree would be a tier advantage.

313
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And because we do have a demolition delay, committee in town, so anything over 75 years old, cannot be demolished before going through this committee, so just FYI, since two of the three are in that vote part.

314
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Otherwise, that's all I have.

315
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There's no questions at the time.

316
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There's no questions.

317
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You can figure it out.

318
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Hi.

319
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Just a building on the left.

320
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You don't live in that one.

321
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Is that currently occupied?

322
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,640
We're calling you 389.

323
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399.

324
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It's not occupied.

325
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And the one of the buildings you're calling 387.

326
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And you're living in that one, correct?

327
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Yes.

328
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And the one on the right.

329
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:25,820
There's nothing in it now.

330
00:23:26,060 --> 00:23:28,820
It's going to be built out for a tenant.

331
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It's time.

332
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Yeah.

333
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But 10.

334
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Yeah.

335
00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:32,780
We're just in the next episode.

336
00:23:32,860 --> 00:23:33,840
Could you speak a little louder?

337
00:23:34,060 --> 00:23:34,440
I can't understand.

338
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It will be built up with a one-bedroom or two-bedroom.

339
00:23:38,140 --> 00:23:38,680
No, it's the same.

340
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:38,920
Yeah.

341
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,240
But do you own the lot where all three buildings are on now, correct?

342
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Okay.

343
00:23:42,940 --> 00:23:48,000
And so when this is done, you plan on selling off the original building.

344
00:23:49,460 --> 00:23:49,600
Yeah.

345
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,460
Can you grab yourself on the site?

346
00:23:50,940 --> 00:23:51,140
No.

347
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Just to clarify, you are going...

348
00:24:03,980 --> 00:24:06,640
You're the owner. You're now dwelling where

349
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the accessory building, the middle unit is the accessory unit.

350
00:24:14,570 --> 00:24:17,030
Okay. He's probably the only one on the site, yes.

351
00:24:17,910 --> 00:24:23,990
And the main building is going to be up for sale, original. Okay.

352
00:24:25,670 --> 00:24:29,970
So he would have the option to live in the accessory unit or the house that he reconstructs, right?

353
00:24:30,150 --> 00:24:32,310
Because he wouldn't have to be in one of the other.

354
00:24:32,310 --> 00:24:37,870
So, the driveway and the new law doesn't exist.

355
00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:39,190
Yeah, all right.

356
00:24:39,250 --> 00:24:40,650
I would, did you see how the plan exists?

357
00:24:41,070 --> 00:24:41,330
Okay.

358
00:24:42,090 --> 00:24:43,910
So, there's all the versions I have.

359
00:24:44,310 --> 00:24:47,710
Anybody else in the reason to keep the public hearing open?

360
00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:49,230
Just one last comment.

361
00:24:49,490 --> 00:24:52,110
And you're talking about the history with the town.

362
00:24:52,350 --> 00:24:55,930
I work for 31 years with the town of West African engineering department, which is

363
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followed by working with your town staff was phenomenally wonderful. Very small, very cooperative

364
00:25:01,890 --> 00:25:06,790
and they did a great job with guiding us through this whole process. We hold them in a hard

365
00:25:06,790 --> 00:25:15,790
regard to them. We're more complicated property. Okay, so you have another reason to keep the airing

366
00:25:15,790 --> 00:25:25,110
open. Okay, because we can close the airing at 7.25 and then move on to our regular meeting.

367
00:25:25,930 --> 00:25:32,610
So we have minutes to consider.

368
00:25:33,310 --> 00:25:36,290
Let me comment on this opportunity.

369
00:25:40,790 --> 00:25:43,610
That's like door for change.

370
00:25:47,130 --> 00:25:49,750
It's never hurting for a little bit longer.

371
00:25:52,830 --> 00:25:57,010
We approved September party by consensus, so there are a lot of things we didn't come

372
00:25:57,010 --> 00:25:57,770
as yet.

373
00:25:58,130 --> 00:26:01,610
And I co-operate team with a very complicated meeting.

374
00:26:02,430 --> 00:26:04,230
We took all of seven minutes,

375
00:26:06,420 --> 00:26:07,760
haven't got you to be congratulated.

376
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:14,100
Now you're going to need to stand and deliver, if we approve that by consensus, yes, we're

377
00:26:14,100 --> 00:26:14,500
free.

378
00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:20,780
We now have public participation, anybody would like to comment on something that

379
00:27:06,110 --> 00:27:08,990
I think that's a copy, these are different.

380
00:27:08,990 --> 00:27:09,830
What are you giving me?

381
00:27:10,410 --> 00:27:10,930
Oh, it's okay.

382
00:27:12,270 --> 00:27:13,710
So let me give you one of these.

383
00:27:19,130 --> 00:27:23,270
So I go to say one other person that was around for almost the entire time.

384
00:27:23,270 --> 00:27:26,630
I was hurrying on planning commissions was Peter and Malik.

385
00:27:27,150 --> 00:27:30,090
It was a fairly regular or a 10th year of the ZBA.

386
00:27:32,150 --> 00:27:35,170
I've been hanging around these parts since December of 79.

387
00:27:36,430 --> 00:27:38,170
Six and a half years is during your planning.

388
00:27:39,150 --> 00:27:40,650
You should have a little exact delay.

389
00:27:41,910 --> 00:27:44,490
And then, you know, we've 40 years in the past,

390
00:27:44,670 --> 00:27:46,270
we can start our business design proposal.

391
00:27:46,570 --> 00:27:47,770
And we can hang around the world.

392
00:27:48,930 --> 00:27:51,110
So, free record future Malay,

393
00:27:51,190 --> 00:27:53,030
President, and CEO of Design Professional,

394
00:27:53,230 --> 00:27:55,090
is easy in person, in helping practice here,

395
00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:56,970
and self-conservant to be easy to connect with.

396
00:27:57,810 --> 00:27:58,990
And we're here.

397
00:27:59,430 --> 00:28:00,790
So, there are three of us here.

398
00:28:00,810 --> 00:28:02,870
Daniel probably won't be doing much of the presentation.

399
00:28:02,870 --> 00:28:04,910
and we're going to invite you to please,

400
00:28:05,110 --> 00:28:06,450
he cousins come up and do that.

401
00:28:06,470 --> 00:28:08,050
She's a precious engineer with us.

402
00:28:08,170 --> 00:28:08,550
You might not.

403
00:28:08,690 --> 00:28:11,610
You've seen her around how we've meetings on the side.

404
00:28:12,130 --> 00:28:14,530
She has never done to light out recollection

405
00:28:14,530 --> 00:28:16,230
and has been a global presentation to you,

406
00:28:16,270 --> 00:28:17,990
so she's going to be doing it for the first time tonight

407
00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:19,450
before the play is on the kitchen.

408
00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:23,130
She's just to let, you know, she's been with us about a year.

409
00:28:23,350 --> 00:28:24,150
She's a project engineer.

410
00:28:25,270 --> 00:28:26,910
She graduated from Jackson University

411
00:28:26,910 --> 00:28:29,550
in Philadelphia, a battery, a light civil engineering degree,

412
00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:30,390
and we know that.

413
00:28:30,770 --> 00:28:31,150
Right, cool.

414
00:28:33,850 --> 00:28:44,050
And also, she's also pastor fundamentals of engineering exam, which means she's passed half the test become licensed professional engineering, she needs a couple more years of experience.

415
00:28:44,650 --> 00:28:55,350
And then she'll be able to take the second half of the exam and become licensed professional engineering, but she's well at her way. She does all kinds of things behind the scenes at her office and she's been a wonderful addition to her staff.

416
00:28:55,350 --> 00:29:00,830
So our clients here tonight in the second row and the left,

417
00:29:01,090 --> 00:29:05,110
our room, Ruketovic, and his wife, Marnetta,

418
00:29:05,930 --> 00:29:10,090
and let me spell that for you that best right now.

419
00:29:10,590 --> 00:29:11,670
We can do it.

420
00:29:11,790 --> 00:29:12,390
We can get it from your speaker.

421
00:29:12,570 --> 00:29:13,410
Oh, you can get it from me.

422
00:29:14,450 --> 00:29:16,090
So, we're a human.

423
00:29:17,070 --> 00:29:20,310
Marnetta, they have a business Iraqi Hill,

424
00:29:20,310 --> 00:29:26,990
It's all strictly trucking, and they have acquired a property at 370

425
00:29:26,990 --> 00:29:31,090
Pernam Street in the ISO, it's in North Side of Burm Street, the South

426
00:29:31,090 --> 00:29:33,230
Plants of Side of Burm Street, and of course in East Side Street.

427
00:29:33,790 --> 00:29:38,050
So I'm going to just roll it through up there, and they acquired that, it's just

428
00:29:38,050 --> 00:29:45,470
shy of an acre, it's 0.95 acres, the parcel, about 120 feet wide, and about 140 feet deep.

429
00:29:45,470 --> 00:29:48,370
It has an existing house on it.

430
00:29:48,770 --> 00:29:52,870
It's just about 4,400 square feet as I understand it.

431
00:29:53,190 --> 00:29:56,150
It is in process being renovated by the prior owner.

432
00:29:56,810 --> 00:29:58,890
So it was essentially half way done.

433
00:29:59,650 --> 00:29:59,950
The exterior.

434
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:27,220
Mr. Litz-New, windows ring, roof, doors, all stuff, but it's incomplete at this time. The intention is to finish that over time, and then also to reside there. They also want to move their business over, once it gets established, and once it gets approved, they like to move their business over. They have a not only this large house on that property, they also have a large garage, residential garage.

435
00:30:27,220 --> 00:30:32,220
We want to take the very back projection of the building, the garage in the first floor.

436
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,340
It is a small second floor as well.

437
00:30:34,580 --> 00:30:35,320
I love that area.

438
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,840
They want to have about a 600 square foot office for their use.

439
00:30:40,580 --> 00:30:46,100
The use consists of, they are interstate transport company.

440
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,340
They serve a southern New England and transport product.

441
00:30:52,340 --> 00:30:59,560
any kinds of commodity, out to other states and I'll tell you some of the states they transport to.

442
00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:07,280
So they transport to Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, Indiana, Oklahoma, North Carolina, South Carolina, Illinois.

443
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,280
And they do not go down south all the way down to Florida or anything.

444
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,700
They do not go to West Coast.

445
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:19,340
So they serve a large year in the middle part of the country with a pickup product from clients in

446
00:31:19,340 --> 00:31:24,700
Can I get Master at Island through Southern New England states and then they transport it once they pick it up?

447
00:31:24,900 --> 00:31:35,880
They immediately drive. It's about two days trip typically to get out to those mid-Mid U.S. A states and then it's another two or four days left

448
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:42,240
depending on what other stops they may have to make. So there are two vehicles. There are W-B-6-7 trucks,

449
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,580
and they are on the road all week long.

450
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:48,940
They leave first thing Monday morning.

451
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,340
It's a Rahim and one other employee as a driver as well.

452
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,620
They leave Monday morning and they return Friday or Saturday.

453
00:31:57,100 --> 00:31:59,880
They go to and from their site as an extended by a

454
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,100
go west on Burnham Street for the five and again on the

455
00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:04,420
Houston Highway System and go to their destinations.

456
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:07,240
So they're gone all week.

457
00:32:07,820 --> 00:32:10,980
The purpose of office is to be lightly used.

458
00:32:10,980 --> 00:32:18,340
It'll have a bathroom in it, but for the most part through the will remain empty during the week, and even on weekends.

459
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:25,540
So again, over time they're going to finish the house week's night on the outside.

460
00:32:25,740 --> 00:32:28,720
Finish that that'll be their home, as that gets finished.

461
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,760
Are we looking for something I really want first to relocate their business to the site?

462
00:32:33,140 --> 00:32:34,940
Just try one acre site.

463
00:32:36,860 --> 00:32:42,420
The building is, I mean, part of the use that they're proposing is general contracting

464
00:32:42,420 --> 00:32:48,220
establishment, which is allowed in the industrial zone, and they conferred with Michelle

465
00:32:48,220 --> 00:32:51,200
in Justin with respect to that particular use.

466
00:32:53,620 --> 00:32:56,600
And they will not use a garage for other than just residential.

467
00:32:56,620 --> 00:32:58,160
That's where they're part of cars.

468
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,940
The car garage, and they have extra room in there also for the residential purpose.

469
00:33:01,940 --> 00:33:09,020
So, the property has been used historically as a non-performing residential use, so they're going

470
00:33:09,020 --> 00:33:12,340
now make it into conforming industrial use.

471
00:33:16,940 --> 00:33:22,760
So they're going to take, there is the driveway's paved of a tomb in Scott Creek and they're

472
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,760
going to add, they have two spaces on the north side of the building, four side of the

473
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:33,460
building, four vehicles, and so they're going to add one additional space, they're going

474
00:33:33,460 --> 00:33:41,580
and we're gravel for circulation on the site, and then they will add and then includes adding

475
00:33:41,580 --> 00:33:46,620
another parking space, so they'll have three parking spaces for the business, and then they'll

476
00:33:46,620 --> 00:33:51,440
utilize the two garage spaces for their residents, for their home. They can also, I think,

477
00:33:51,520 --> 00:34:03,440
can park one vehicles and everything, but it's not for commercial purposes. And they'll

478
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:07,460
the van size, TANFICAP to SESSPAL space, plus it was the two other spaces.

479
00:34:09,620 --> 00:34:12,820
There are going to be, do a slight winding up the driveway,

480
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:19,260
the selfless corner of it, for circulation going to in from room five for the trucks.

481
00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:22,820
They will also,

482
00:34:25,780 --> 00:34:28,860
they will be doing, they will be,

483
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:34,520
in a quacy, we will review, they might create a detention piece in the southeast corner,

484
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:40,570
we'll review that in a moment and also doing in some water quality treatments associated with that.

485
00:34:44,590 --> 00:34:50,790
And she'll address utilities, other engineering components, and she'll even take a shot at worksmiths.

486
00:34:50,810 --> 00:34:58,180
So it leads to a partial plan to spread that associated with that in fencing and lighting as well.

487
00:34:59,420 --> 00:35:01,140
The property is fenced on two sides.

488
00:35:01,220 --> 00:35:06,300
Their fences, the property to the west, has also a circumferential fence.

489
00:35:06,300 --> 00:35:08,860
It's not their fence on the west side.

490
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,120
And the house, if you've been by it's green vinyl

491
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,900
siding and also a stone-fent-faced foundation,

492
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:16,860
which is quite nice.

493
00:35:20,060 --> 00:35:21,200
But I guess it could be most of that.

494
00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:23,920
Fire apparatus, you've checked into that.

495
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,120
And the turning of the winter fine,

496
00:35:25,220 --> 00:35:27,920
even on-site for fire apparatus to turn around.

497
00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:30,400
If they choose not to, if they choose to go into the site,

498
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,420
there are no wetlands on the site or floodplain

499
00:35:33,420 --> 00:35:37,540
and Ian Cole, wetland scientist, who's gone before the wetlands.

500
00:35:37,540 --> 00:35:44,620
In the ones agency regularly has certified that in a report, and we don't have to go to wetland

501
00:35:44,620 --> 00:35:45,340
Commission first.

502
00:35:45,620 --> 00:35:49,580
This is one of the few I've done in a long time, which is a conservation application,

503
00:35:50,980 --> 00:35:53,440
just for the minor improvements to the property.

504
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,560
There's no involvement whatsoever with wetlands or floodplain.

505
00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:05,220
So, I'd like to turn it over to Quasi right now, and she will discuss what her engineering

506
00:36:05,220 --> 00:36:08,340
design is, which she and Daniel have done. So, question?

507
00:36:10,420 --> 00:36:15,420
Any languages of the commission for the record, my name is Quasie Cessence. I am

508
00:36:15,420 --> 00:36:21,700
a project engineer with design professionals in to reiterate the site does not

509
00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:26,980
intersect any identified wetland or wetland-upland areas to drainage points for determine

510
00:36:26,980 --> 00:36:32,600
based on our assessment of the existing stormwater flow design point one, where stormwater

511
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:37,820
is this the site from the Northwestern Property Boundary and Design Point 2, which

512
00:36:37,820 --> 00:36:42,300
thermal water exits the site to Burnham Street. Review of existence upon a

513
00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:47,080
fear of view, the contributing stormwater runoff crossing the site from the

514
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:55,480
Eastern Property Boundary, where the site is interesting. This is a plan drainage area

515
00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:01,340
steep slopes, gradually transitioning to the Jensus slopes, direction the stormwater runoff

516
00:37:01,340 --> 00:37:07,880
towards design point one, to the north and elongated bridge was also identified which direct stormwater

517
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:13,520
around south towards the site with some drainage across the west and property boundary.

518
00:37:14,140 --> 00:37:19,460
The site is relatively flat with no more than two feet and the front and the highest and lowest

519
00:37:19,460 --> 00:37:26,720
point elevations between 61 and 63 feet across the site. The drainage divide was identified passing through

520
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:29,980
the 7th portion of the property, where it's done right now.

521
00:37:30,050 --> 00:37:37,910
On from the garage and parts of the student's statement with the law and law and are intercepted by a

522
00:37:37,910 --> 00:37:44,510
genesis law, which promotes runoff to the back of the site, so it's the standpoint. Wow, the

523
00:37:44,510 --> 00:37:50,570
house and remaining the human and strong, the next arm would run off towards foreign and street. So,

524
00:37:50,590 --> 00:37:57,270
for the ceremony management we evaluated a different side conditions to preserve the natural hydrology,

525
00:37:57,270 --> 00:38:03,070
limiting the sermons of the flow path of the upland area while providing water quality control

526
00:38:03,070 --> 00:38:05,630
for the increase in impervious area.

527
00:38:05,630 --> 00:38:11,950
For post-conditions, there will be an approximate 16.7% increase in the impervious areas

528
00:38:11,950 --> 00:38:17,810
with the addition of the gravel drive, the parking spaces, the two units drive, and the extended

529
00:38:17,810 --> 00:38:20,690
driveway apron to the street.

530
00:38:21,990 --> 00:38:26,670
In terms of water quality, the stormwater quality and sanctioned basin is proposed with additional

531
00:38:26,670 --> 00:38:33,970
whole pan from this area is, you can see outlined here at the back of the site, the

532
00:38:33,970 --> 00:38:41,190
property is part of the area also concerned in the dying parts of the, for the part

533
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:45,850
of the existing between the two man's drive and proposed driving drive, or during the

534
00:38:45,850 --> 00:38:51,210
storage of the pond, it will also insist that flow from the neighboring property on the site,

535
00:38:51,530 --> 00:38:54,810
which would have meant its way to the non-point line in the back.

536
00:38:54,810 --> 00:39:00,490
That's what's conducted on-site identified at high-ground water table with this.

537
00:39:00,690 --> 00:39:15,950
It was unfeasible to take design, to take, it was unfeasible to design a base and to take credit for infiltration, as required through feet and vertical separation between the bottom of the basement and the groundwater table would not be achieved in this area.

538
00:39:15,950 --> 00:39:24,750
The bottom elevation of the pond is 59.5 feet with a maximum surge capacity of 3,790

539
00:39:25,450 --> 00:39:31,390
and 19 cubic feet, approximately, outflow will be controlled by an outlet pipe with an

540
00:39:31,390 --> 00:39:39,290
emergency outflow pipe also proposed right here. So for the main outlet pipe it flows through

541
00:39:39,290 --> 00:39:44,710
hydrogen dynamic separator, which will provide treatment with flour flowing down to your

542
00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:46,750
catch basin on burning stream.

543
00:39:51,250 --> 00:39:56,070
Outflows are controlled by this outlet control structure here, which comprises of a series

544
00:39:57,010 --> 00:40:03,450
of offices, or five, which are elevated different elevations to control the flow.

545
00:40:04,370 --> 00:40:08,850
We're going to advise for validating the stormwater management where more nuance for the proposed

546
00:40:08,850 --> 00:40:11,210
conditions to regulate stormwater flow.

547
00:40:11,210 --> 00:40:15,570
The gravel drive to the east of the garage and the additional parking space will drain

548
00:40:15,570 --> 00:40:21,550
the old drain to the areas at the rear of the property designed as called fine-purpose areas.

549
00:40:27,950 --> 00:40:35,130
Over erosion and sedimentation control at some perry sediment trap is proposed in the same location

550
00:40:35,130 --> 00:40:39,830
as the basin with the pipe elevations being the same for ease of construction.

551
00:40:42,870 --> 00:40:50,770
additional measures included silk fences around summer and summer of the fight with additional

552
00:40:50,770 --> 00:40:54,390
haybills and temporary stockpile areas.

553
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,780
And for landscape aim, this is from Arden or landscape

554
00:41:01,780 --> 00:41:04,400
on site who could not be with us this evening.

555
00:41:06,650 --> 00:41:09,830
The intention basin will be seated with appropriate erosion

556
00:41:09,830 --> 00:41:15,410
control or the attention basin seedments with native and naturalized grasses for any of the

557
00:41:15,410 --> 00:41:20,350
that and in front of the sentient nation at the entrance to the property will be a plant

558
00:41:20,350 --> 00:41:25,950
by disengaining a colorful variety of natives, every green and disengaged shows and perennials

559
00:41:25,950 --> 00:41:30,950
that will provide a benefit to wildlife and be an attractive feature for the site.

560
00:41:31,250 --> 00:41:37,250
My lighting, courtesy of illuminate three different types of pictures are the things

561
00:41:37,250 --> 00:41:40,810
the front and side doors.

562
00:41:41,810 --> 00:41:45,330
The extra front will be mounted at 25 feet.

563
00:41:45,830 --> 00:41:48,310
The other fixtures will be mounted at 20 feet,

564
00:41:48,970 --> 00:41:50,730
with the vibrating arm zero,

565
00:41:51,450 --> 00:41:53,270
and, like, it has to be found in public.

566
00:41:54,810 --> 00:41:55,830
You see, it is

567
00:41:58,070 --> 00:41:59,490
the office.

568
00:42:00,350 --> 00:42:02,050
Guys, we made it in the garage.

569
00:42:02,850 --> 00:42:05,290
The service connections from the existing building

570
00:42:05,290 --> 00:42:09,870
for June, June, and Electrical will be a standard to service the office.

571
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,000
And we did receive comments from the conference,

572
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,900
just in provide us with comments, which is a address,

573
00:42:19,300 --> 00:42:25,060
and resettlement, they should have been in red remission levels.

574
00:42:25,580 --> 00:42:26,540
Any other type plan?

575
00:42:30,130 --> 00:42:30,810
Thank you.

576
00:42:31,250 --> 00:42:31,430
Thank you.

577
00:42:32,230 --> 00:42:32,730
Thank you.

578
00:42:33,150 --> 00:42:37,970
Just a couple other party comments here, concluding comments.

579
00:42:38,930 --> 00:42:43,730
As far as traffic goes, there isn't a later use ever proposed probably in this town

580
00:42:43,730 --> 00:42:48,290
I suppose other than when there's no activity going on whatsoever at it.

581
00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:54,350
When Raheem and Maneta move in, they're both going to be on the site, they don't want

582
00:42:54,350 --> 00:43:00,910
to even try to have a trip to get to the office per se, and their driver, their driver, will

583
00:43:00,910 --> 00:43:04,690
come to the driver I suppose, and then park there.

584
00:43:04,690 --> 00:43:11,710
So probably one sparking space for employees, and then each gets in the truck and takes off for the week.

585
00:43:12,050 --> 00:43:15,390
And then returns at the end of the week, picks up his current takes off.

586
00:43:15,970 --> 00:43:20,290
So the total trips is really lighter than light.

587
00:43:21,150 --> 00:43:25,990
In previous coverage, it is going to be, we allow, of course, an industrial zone 65%,

588
00:43:25,990 --> 00:43:27,750
we're going to be under 40%.

589
00:43:27,750 --> 00:43:31,630
Even with improvements, because gravel is even treated as in previous coverage.

590
00:43:31,630 --> 00:43:33,830
and cell phones are in most other accounts.

591
00:43:35,790 --> 00:43:37,450
And let's see what's going on.

592
00:43:37,510 --> 00:43:38,730
Let's see what else we want to say.

593
00:43:40,450 --> 00:43:41,850
I think that's it.

594
00:43:43,830 --> 00:43:43,850
Yeah.

595
00:43:44,130 --> 00:43:44,690
Think that's it.

596
00:43:44,750 --> 00:43:49,010
So we're a Daniel and Quacey and I are available.

597
00:43:49,330 --> 00:43:50,130
Oh, one other thing.

598
00:43:50,830 --> 00:43:53,210
We did check with Rehean.

599
00:43:53,710 --> 00:43:57,310
He even demonstrated how on-site we don't have to remove all those.

600
00:43:57,410 --> 00:43:59,290
And he's talked with us to look into that.

601
00:43:59,330 --> 00:44:01,470
Whether or not there's circulation in the street

602
00:44:01,470 --> 00:44:03,910
is necessary to move the trucks in and out.

603
00:44:04,130 --> 00:44:07,430
No, they can do it all in sight and even demonstrate that we've filled it.

604
00:44:07,450 --> 00:44:08,350
Daniel was there.

605
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:12,770
And so, yeah, it works to get both trucks in there.

606
00:44:13,010 --> 00:44:13,450
Now, the problem.

607
00:44:13,850 --> 00:44:16,610
Just a minor improvement, or they have to put the gravel in, of course,

608
00:44:16,970 --> 00:44:19,650
in minor improvements to the paved driveway at the beginning.

609
00:44:20,410 --> 00:44:26,550
So the radius on the southwest corner of the driveway can accommodate both trucks.

610
00:44:27,150 --> 00:44:27,930
That's it.

611
00:44:28,770 --> 00:44:29,390
Pretty simple.

612
00:44:29,390 --> 00:44:37,070
And it will become more, more conforming use, and it was higher-cent residential in

613
00:44:37,710 --> 00:44:42,690
a industrial area, and now it will be, there will be an industrial use there along with the

614
00:44:42,690 --> 00:44:43,730
residents of the owners.

615
00:44:45,130 --> 00:44:48,970
So, pretty simple, they look forward to moving back, I was talking ahead of before the meeting

616
00:44:48,970 --> 00:44:53,230
and we're here even in the very much look forward to relocating their business and their

617
00:44:53,230 --> 00:44:59,970
to self-winter and they can't wait and it's going to take just a little while for them to do that.

618
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,140
But before the residents is done to the other Zoom, they hope to move to the business of it, not shortly.

619
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,200
And it's a normal point for the record being the James Interactive Engineering and Design Professionals.

620
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:15,180
We do have those videos of the truck maneuver available for viewing, if anyone wants to see that.

621
00:45:15,380 --> 00:45:17,600
But we deserve those truck maneuvers.

622
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,660
Autumn desk has a turning template that has this constraints.

623
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:27,160
But we've always stated that truck drivers can do much better than what the autumn turn would allow them.

624
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:38,320
So we went out there, right, we made the maneuver readily a couple of times for us, so we were able to record that as a testimony to the fact that you can make the maneuver on site.

625
00:45:38,740 --> 00:45:40,580
Did all three of you sign in?

626
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:41,780
Quasi did.

627
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:43,480
And I did.

628
00:45:43,940 --> 00:45:44,960
And Daniel did as well.

629
00:45:45,940 --> 00:45:46,120
Okay.

630
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:47,420
All right.

631
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:48,260
Is that it?

632
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:49,480
That's it.

633
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:49,960
Okay.

634
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,720
I now will listen to comments from just for the first time.

635
00:45:53,720 --> 00:45:54,420
What's the night?

636
00:45:55,740 --> 00:45:56,180
Thank you.

637
00:45:56,180 --> 00:45:57,900
You're just getting off light.

638
00:45:58,520 --> 00:45:59,220
I'm injured.

639
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:01,780
OK.

640
00:46:04,020 --> 00:46:05,500
So a lot of this was already covered.

641
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,380
I'll just touch on some of the important things.

642
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,880
So this is a request for a site plan to establish an office and outside

643
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:12,980
trailer parking.

644
00:46:13,300 --> 00:46:17,220
I'm property located at 370 Burnham Street in the industrial zone.

645
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:28,220
Our regulations, a free-standing single-family residents in the industrial zone, may be used by the owner of the facility in conjunction with a permitted commercial use.

646
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:36,720
As discussed, the applicant is looking to occupy the home and operate a small trucking business from his address within office in the existing garage.

647
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:41,520
Now, the proposed condition of the site appears to comply with their zoning regulations.

648
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:46,720
A lot coverage is demonstrated as 13.3% or 50% is allowed.

649
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,060
Improvious coverage is 39.2% or 65% is allowed.

650
00:46:51,500 --> 00:46:55,920
A lot area, frontage, yard setbacks, and building height appear to comply,

651
00:46:56,340 --> 00:47:00,560
except for a non-conforming side yard setback of one and a half feet, where 10 is required.

652
00:47:02,100 --> 00:47:12,680
So, to speak on the maneuverability of the tractor trailers, I saw the videos and also

653
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:19,960
sound engineer review the videos, I'll go into his comments later, but to me, it seems

654
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:20,340
okay.

655
00:47:20,540 --> 00:47:24,960
I had my concerns initially before seeing the video because the turning maneuvers weren't

656
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,980
provided, but yeah, after watching that, it's pretty clear that.

657
00:47:29,980 --> 00:47:34,220
We some I think, and they can make that maneuver successfully.

658
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:41,060
Design professionals did provide via comb-nevering plans showing a shorter

659
00:47:41,060 --> 00:47:45,420
signal unit fire pump truck, and that also maneuver's due to site

660
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:50,440
a very easily fire marshal head had no concerns, no comments.

661
00:47:51,660 --> 00:47:54,720
A photometric plan has been provided as part of this application.

662
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,600
The proposed light fixtures appear to comply with our regulations,

663
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:05,300
However, there's no mention of fixtures being controlled by dimmers, timers, or sensors to limit unnecessary lighting.

664
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:15,480
This property is served by water sewer and gas service lines, water and sewer is provided by MDC and gas is provided by CNJ.

665
00:48:16,820 --> 00:48:22,480
And finally, for planning, there are no regulated weapons on the site, but as was discussed,

666
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:28,300
the application proposed to the servants exceeding half an acre and is therefore subject to approval of the

667
00:48:28,300 --> 00:48:32,400
and the mutton's agency in conservation commission for an erosion sediment control plan,

668
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:41,620
which is currently pending and on the November 5th agenda for a nearing from Tori's

669
00:48:41,620 --> 00:48:47,440
decidori town engineer. The following are the engineering department comments.

670
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:53,020
Number one, provide maintenance and protection of traffic measures for the stormwater drainage

671
00:48:53,020 --> 00:48:57,840
work in Burnham Street, standard maintenance and protection of traffic details can be found

672
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:05,980
under 0 970101A, traffic control plants and typical materials in the link below.

673
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:07,080
I don't think it's provided.

674
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:15,260
Number two, ideally, the proposed 185-linear foot, 12-inch HDPE, pipe running along Burnham

675
00:49:15,260 --> 00:49:18,380
Street would have a minimum slope of half a percent.

676
00:49:18,380 --> 00:49:21,860
This is a suggestion for the town of Southland's or H&M Department.

677
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,820
Number three, please review it.

678
00:49:24,860 --> 00:49:29,380
Nine foot dimension of proposed standard car parking space, nine foot by 18 feet,

679
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,700
and then in parentheses one SP.

680
00:49:33,020 --> 00:49:35,460
Just north of the van accessible parking space location.

681
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,700
The dimension is conflicting with the proposed gravel drive,

682
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:41,800
which identify three standard car parking spaces.

683
00:49:42,140 --> 00:49:42,860
Please verify.

684
00:49:43,940 --> 00:49:47,640
Number four, please provide details for the bituminous concrete sidewalk.

685
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:57,240
If a heavy vehicle is consistently driving on with the two minutes concrete sidewalk, for turning maneuvers on site, please provide a pavement section that is suitable for heavy vehicle loads.

686
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:06,860
At number five, after reviewing the video of the WV67 truck performing the movements required on site, the engineering department has no further comments.

687
00:50:07,500 --> 00:50:10,880
If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me, Tory City.

688
00:50:13,620 --> 00:50:17,580
So with that there are no additional comments from the staff.

689
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:20,600
Thank you.

690
00:50:21,720 --> 00:50:26,620
I will listen to the commissioners who have any questions or comments and I hope that

691
00:50:26,620 --> 00:50:29,600
you can speak at this point, but you won't be allowed to vote.

692
00:50:29,780 --> 00:50:32,060
I'm just starting with Commissioner Kilbore.

693
00:50:34,180 --> 00:50:36,840
Another excellent presentation by design professionals.

694
00:50:38,260 --> 00:50:41,560
I'm looking at the drawings and I'm seeing those trucks.

695
00:50:42,660 --> 00:50:43,780
I think you're not getting in there.

696
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,520
You're not getting in there, but I guess you're getting in there.

697
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,480
scale, count. I thought thank you.

698
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:55,340
I'm trying to capture those. Yeah you're good drivers and you can do that blind side back

699
00:50:55,340 --> 00:51:00,860
and on that so. Good job. And every trucker can do that.

700
00:51:03,740 --> 00:51:09,920
I'd only you all see how not that this but how close to the property and sign is the parking

701
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,200
for the width of those trucks to the house next door.

702
00:51:14,990 --> 00:51:15,950
It's going to be this one.

703
00:51:15,950 --> 00:51:17,510
It's five feet to the property line.

704
00:51:17,710 --> 00:51:18,090
Is it ground?

705
00:51:20,270 --> 00:51:20,710
It's five.

706
00:51:20,850 --> 00:51:21,230
It's five.

707
00:51:21,230 --> 00:51:23,150
And I still don't know what to do.

708
00:51:24,770 --> 00:51:27,630
What are the homeowners that live right there with the child?

709
00:51:27,630 --> 00:51:30,390
Like has there been any feedback from the neighbors?

710
00:51:31,350 --> 00:51:32,830
There's going to be extra space for the neighbors.

711
00:51:33,530 --> 00:51:33,650
Let me go.

712
00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:34,050
Let me go.

713
00:51:34,050 --> 00:51:34,070
Let me go.

714
00:51:34,270 --> 00:51:34,390
Let me go.

715
00:51:34,970 --> 00:51:35,510
Let me go.

716
00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:39,150
Let me go.

717
00:51:39,150 --> 00:51:43,610
I asked him to say, we're going to speak, they need to sign in.

718
00:51:44,410 --> 00:51:45,830
He doesn't have any issue.

719
00:51:46,090 --> 00:51:48,570
We ask him to say, we have to be in the spine.

720
00:51:50,070 --> 00:51:50,970
He's speaking.

721
00:51:51,470 --> 00:51:52,790
I guess we're going to have to.

722
00:51:54,530 --> 00:51:55,970
She's a co-owner of the property.

723
00:51:56,310 --> 00:51:57,490
So can you go sign in?

724
00:51:58,850 --> 00:52:00,150
She's never done this before.

725
00:52:00,390 --> 00:52:00,810
So that's okay.

726
00:52:01,410 --> 00:52:01,970
That's fine.

727
00:52:02,670 --> 00:52:04,910
It helps us so I get the minutes right up here.

728
00:52:05,010 --> 00:52:05,670
It's a sign in.

729
00:52:06,330 --> 00:52:06,650
Yeah.

730
00:52:09,010 --> 00:52:11,290
So, I guess you didn't have an objection?

731
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:17,900
If you wouldn't repeat what you just said.

732
00:52:19,020 --> 00:52:23,800
I talked with my neighbor for the right side.

733
00:52:24,300 --> 00:52:27,020
I asked him if he had any issue with my shots. He said,

734
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,700
No, I'm a truck driver. I don't have any issue.

735
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:36,620
Thank you so much for your support here, but if you need some letter source and I'm going to ask him, maybe it's okay.

736
00:52:37,660 --> 00:52:37,680
Okay.

737
00:52:38,580 --> 00:52:39,420
Excuse me.

738
00:52:39,940 --> 00:52:40,720
He's a truck driver.

739
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:42,600
He's a truck driver.

740
00:52:42,860 --> 00:52:43,660
He's a truck driver.

741
00:52:44,140 --> 00:52:45,100
He's a truck driver.

742
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,040
That's my question.

743
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:48,000
Thank you.

744
00:52:48,020 --> 00:52:48,900
The rest are next there.

745
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,960
I really just have kind of a curiosity.

746
00:52:51,580 --> 00:52:56,220
So the truck lanes, I see on the drawing of a two tractor trailers, right?

747
00:52:56,220 --> 00:53:01,400
So is there any wish five ten years from now to expand?

748
00:53:02,580 --> 00:53:11,200
Yes, but we have we have what expand one, but it is our owner the company we have our two trucks for the the owners

749
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:19,520
Two trucks, but if somebody came to work with us, but the fact that he cannot be like in Kentucky doesn't matter where's the driver

750
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:25,940
Just working with us. I'm looking load for him now leaving a nice specify living in Connecticut

751
00:53:25,940 --> 00:53:30,960
He's going to be in Ohio, why he's going to come over here to partying the trucks in the term.

752
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,700
Can you add again if you just go even in Ohio?

753
00:53:33,180 --> 00:53:33,580
I understand.

754
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:35,780
Just to come and stuff it out.

755
00:53:35,900 --> 00:53:38,240
The cycling you're reviewing is only four or two trucks.

756
00:53:38,500 --> 00:53:40,200
So it won't be limiting it to two.

757
00:53:40,620 --> 00:53:42,560
So there will never be some further proof.

758
00:53:42,900 --> 00:53:43,360
I'm going to come back.

759
00:53:44,300 --> 00:53:46,220
So there will never be some further proof.

760
00:53:47,780 --> 00:53:48,800
That's all I have.

761
00:53:49,540 --> 00:53:50,420
Commissioner Foley.

762
00:53:51,220 --> 00:53:55,120
So I don't need to see the video but I'm looking here at this drawing.

763
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:56,900
And this was truck and trailer.

764
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,600
W-B-6-7-4 size.

765
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:01,280
All right.

766
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:02,160
You done bless you.

767
00:54:02,660 --> 00:54:09,500
Now the area, this quite a bit of area where you have the, you know,

768
00:54:09,580 --> 00:54:12,520
you know, maximum location of qualifying pervious area.

769
00:54:13,140 --> 00:54:18,200
Are we looking for, even though we're,

770
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,660
we're permitting two truck to track the trailers.

771
00:54:20,660 --> 00:54:31,060
Is that area to be for like empty trailers to be helped down to or no no this is what we do that

772
00:54:31,060 --> 00:54:33,680
You considerations for the

773
00:54:37,020 --> 00:54:42,020
It is looked to drain towards the back of the site, so this would be a

774
00:54:42,020 --> 00:54:50,160
to be available on a weekly, and it's for infiltration purposes, and basically cleaning and

775
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:51,080
something from the setting.

776
00:54:51,940 --> 00:54:52,020
Okay.

777
00:54:52,140 --> 00:54:53,300
So what are calling Mr. Premier?

778
00:54:53,740 --> 00:54:54,020
Yes.

779
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:58,840
And then I mean, it's a beautiful garage that now did you build that garage?

780
00:54:58,900 --> 00:54:59,200
Okay.

781
00:54:59,500 --> 00:55:00,620
Try to honor it.

782
00:55:00,620 --> 00:55:03,280
I just think garage, like, didn't, absolutely.

783
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:08,180
You'll just, you'll do maintenance on your truck in that garage, but just your trucks only.

784
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:08,780
Yes.

785
00:55:08,780 --> 00:55:17,100
But we're not doing anything in garage, if something happens like, oh, I'm sure, we're going to do it and we can go inside.

786
00:55:18,420 --> 00:55:18,800
No, no.

787
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:19,660
No, no.

788
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,340
I just want to make sure it's not like a general commercial repair shop.

789
00:55:23,620 --> 00:55:24,540
No, no, no.

790
00:55:24,820 --> 00:55:29,060
They really do plan on using that for residential other than the office in the back.

791
00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:29,760
No?

792
00:55:31,380 --> 00:55:31,960
How much for emergency?

793
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,700
So Commissioner Foley raises an interesting question.

794
00:55:36,700 --> 00:55:46,100
You're not doing repairs and the garage, the vehicles are going outside for any repair, maintenance, or whatever, you're going to sow it.

795
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:53,200
And is there, I don't know if you said this is there a trash dumpster or anything like that.

796
00:55:53,380 --> 00:55:53,580
I don't want to say.

797
00:55:53,580 --> 00:55:57,700
There is one proposed to the corner of the garage.

798
00:55:58,500 --> 00:56:00,860
And that's new, that's something that isn't there now.

799
00:56:01,500 --> 00:56:01,660
Yes.

800
00:56:01,660 --> 00:56:05,200
Yeah, just a standard trash bin, or something like that.

801
00:56:05,340 --> 00:56:06,200
Every day, run a mill.

802
00:56:06,620 --> 00:56:07,220
Yeah, just that.

803
00:56:07,500 --> 00:56:10,100
So I have Mr. Mithir.

804
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,020
Mr. Mithir, there's actually a little bit of a question.

805
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:13,880
Mr. Mithir, coming now.

806
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:14,800
I have no comment.

807
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,980
OK, so would you explain to me, I guess, this quasi,

808
00:56:20,860 --> 00:56:22,360
what's this CPA,

809
00:56:24,660 --> 00:56:28,660
hervisa, what are you doing anything there?

810
00:56:28,740 --> 00:56:31,420
Or is that just a designated place

811
00:56:31,420 --> 00:56:32,640
you're not going there.

812
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:43,320
Okay, so we're not doing anything there.

813
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,780
Is that this area that we're proposing for the gravel drive?

814
00:56:47,780 --> 00:56:49,460
Because you're going to use the water quality.

815
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,480
It would be controlled by those hydrodynamics.

816
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,620
Is this area at the back?

817
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,440
Is there a structure?

818
00:56:55,440 --> 00:57:00,500
There is a section in this groundwater component that allows you to consider

819
00:57:01,260 --> 00:57:03,780
area of vegetated landscape.

820
00:57:03,780 --> 00:57:11,620
Well, space, as it means to control water quality from simple and pervious area.

821
00:57:13,340 --> 00:57:19,580
So it basically serves that you should measure the length and width of the area and have a similar sized area.

822
00:57:20,100 --> 00:57:29,300
In fact, that can control infiltration and any, you know, basically cleaning of that area.

823
00:57:29,300 --> 00:57:30,700
So that's what we're proposing.

824
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,340
It will be graded to the continued to drain across the north-western property

825
00:57:34,340 --> 00:57:34,780
boundary.

826
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:36,880
Thank you.

827
00:57:38,970 --> 00:57:45,570
Just to final comments, just thanks to Commissioner Cabinera Wagner and the

828
00:57:45,570 --> 00:57:47,010
Terry for your service.

829
00:57:47,770 --> 00:57:49,390
I know your term is expired.

830
00:57:49,630 --> 00:57:51,070
You have continuing on.

831
00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:52,550
You're going to run for reelection, whatever.

832
00:57:53,010 --> 00:57:56,150
I know Commissioner Baganski is running.

833
00:57:56,770 --> 00:58:00,250
So her term is up, but she's running and we wish her well.

834
00:58:00,250 --> 00:58:05,570
So, but thank you very much for, I know it's a lot to ask a people to volunteer for these positions.

835
00:58:05,930 --> 00:58:12,330
It can be very late nights, a lot of nights, and a lot of homework and even joined by sites and reviewing documentation and stuff.

836
00:58:13,230 --> 00:58:19,410
So, it's a lot to ask a people and it's wonderful that some people do step up and serve the community and without that, the community doesn't function.

837
00:58:19,930 --> 00:58:21,070
So, thank you very much for that.

838
00:58:21,350 --> 00:58:25,850
And also, we have been also thinking about in our office today about people in Jamaica,

839
00:58:26,290 --> 00:58:28,950
we even have people in our office who have family in Jamaica.

840
00:58:28,950 --> 00:58:31,650
So, and it is a category five.

841
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:35,680
Thank you.

842
00:58:36,420 --> 00:58:36,580
So,

843
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:39,020
thank you.

844
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:40,600
Any other comments from commissioners?

845
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:41,980
The motion will be in order.

846
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:49,180
You do approve application 25-45-E, a-a-k-trapping.

847
00:58:49,980 --> 00:58:53,000
Points 1 through 10, ooh.

848
00:58:53,260 --> 00:58:54,420
We have additional notes there.

849
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:55,000
I'll read this one.

850
00:58:56,260 --> 00:59:00,400
Points 1 through 10 are all written in, so I'll read it at 11 and 12.

851
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:08,700
The final plans shall be revised to show that all proposed slight fixtures shall be controlled by dimmers slash timer slash sensors and point 12

852
00:59:08,700 --> 00:59:15,040
Town engineers comment stated October 28th 2025 shall be incorporated into the final plans

853
00:59:15,580 --> 00:59:19,200
You want to read your vision for

854
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:26,800
Yeah, a landscape on the amount of 3,000 is required. It must be submitted prior to the issuance of certificate of occupancy for if it is not completed

855
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:28,540
Okay, okay.

856
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:31,000
Any other discussion?

857
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:32,860
All the favor?

858
00:59:33,380 --> 00:59:33,840
All right.

859
00:59:33,940 --> 00:59:34,600
Any opposed?

860
00:59:34,860 --> 00:59:35,580
Any abstaining?

861
00:59:36,260 --> 00:59:36,660
Passage.

862
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:37,220
You're not listening.

863
00:59:37,940 --> 00:59:38,380
You're not listening?

864
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:41,060
You're not listening?

865
00:59:42,060 --> 00:59:42,400
You're not.

866
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:42,600
You're not.

867
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,340
We move on to a vacation.

868
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:46,840
1-5-47-P.

869
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:51,440
I've got that one.

870
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,440
I've got that one.

871
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,980
Excuse me, hold the conversation down.

872
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,700
On behalf of the Board of Health, you are going to be a start lawyer.

873
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:16,820
Okay, for television and detached accessory apartment, 1 through 6, scheduled approval conditions.

874
01:00:17,940 --> 01:00:25,020
Okay, I train 7, I trainage assessment fee and amount of $50. I'll be submitted to the Commission.

875
01:00:25,020 --> 01:00:30,620
In addition, eight, no building permits will be issued until all modifications have been

876
01:00:30,620 --> 01:00:35,340
supplied with and the final plans have been filed in the Town Court's office.

877
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:36,720
9.

878
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:42,940
The detached accessory apartment shall not be limited to its existing square footage and is

879
01:00:42,940 --> 01:00:45,400
not permitted to be a short-term rental.

880
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:46,540
10.

881
01:00:47,180 --> 01:00:52,680
Properties with accessory apartments shall be owner occupied, either in the principal dwelling

882
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,160
or the accessory apartment.

883
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:58,760
This shall be reaffirmed by the property owner every four years to the South

884
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,320
Windsor Planet Department.

885
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:06,540
11, the zoning tables on the drawings shall be updated to accurately reflect all

886
01:01:06,540 --> 01:01:14,040
the minimum lot in area requirements as shown in table 3.1.2a of the

887
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:19,520
town of South Windsor's Zoning Regulation. 12, town engineers come and state

888
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:23,920
to 1021-2025, shall be incorporated into the final plan.

889
01:01:24,820 --> 01:01:33,660
13, key map shall be provided in accordance with chapter 3, I-A-3 of the subdivision

890
01:01:33,660 --> 01:01:34,220
resolution.

891
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:43,180
14, zoning table shall be updated per table 3.1.2A of the Town and South Windsor

892
01:01:43,180 --> 01:01:50,980
for zoning regulations. 15. The rear yard setback shall be updated to measure to the rear of

893
01:01:50,980 --> 01:01:59,360
lot one. 16. Side yard and rear yard setbacks shall measure from the proposed garage on lot

894
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:01,920
one. Second.

895
01:02:04,780 --> 01:02:05,300
So the discussion?

896
01:02:07,950 --> 01:02:09,750
Okay, so we'll take a vote. All in favor?

897
01:02:10,110 --> 01:02:14,090
All in favor? All in favor? Any opposed? Any abstaining? Motion passes unanimously.

898
01:02:14,090 --> 01:02:14,250
We

899
01:02:16,260 --> 01:02:18,360
don't have any bombs.

900
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:19,320
No bombs.

901
01:02:19,580 --> 01:02:19,720
Thank you.

902
01:02:19,740 --> 01:02:20,860
We have any old business.

903
01:02:21,860 --> 01:02:22,960
No old business.

904
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:24,220
We have training.

905
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:26,960
I don't think they have their other business, but okay.

906
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:29,260
What's that?

907
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,040
No applications officially received.

908
01:02:31,100 --> 01:02:32,120
We've never received anything.

909
01:02:32,820 --> 01:02:33,380
We've never received anything.

910
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:34,220
Other business.

911
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,520
So all the businesses we do have in your upcoming schedule,

912
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:38,760
you know, number 17.

913
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:41,380
This is a correct date, right?

914
01:02:41,380 --> 01:02:41,480
No.

915
01:02:41,940 --> 01:02:42,840
That's a number 18.

916
01:02:44,140 --> 01:02:45,260
I talked to kind of trace today.

917
01:02:45,260 --> 01:02:51,100
actually, and we'll do our normal 7pm meeting, we'll have a business meeting to do that

918
01:02:51,100 --> 01:02:56,880
to the care assuming we have all the seven members that are available.

919
01:02:57,780 --> 01:03:01,640
And the only thing on the agenda that night will be a training session, we did talk about

920
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:07,060
potentially having some other cohorts that wetlands in ZDA may become for a portion of the

921
01:03:07,060 --> 01:03:10,020
level I kind of training and when that we're still working on some of those we just did.

922
01:03:10,100 --> 01:03:14,260
But we definitely will be having planning on a commission training, and then the only other meeting

923
01:03:14,260 --> 01:03:16,740
for November would be the next week.

924
01:03:16,940 --> 01:03:22,380
We have a public hearing on a text amendment, depending on who it's being chair, I'll just

925
01:03:22,380 --> 01:03:23,060
throw out there.

926
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,860
If either of those meetings we want to have this eternal discussion, planning discussion

927
01:03:26,860 --> 01:03:33,020
on some goals over the next year, topics that you want to work on, just tonight are always looking

928
01:03:33,020 --> 01:03:42,840
for new things to be looking forward, and to that end it's just as we people look at your

929
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:45,220
and we want to work on in that regard, so.

930
01:03:45,900 --> 01:03:49,360
And then lastly, I just want to say three or his many years

931
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:50,540
of service to the sound.

932
01:03:51,580 --> 01:03:55,960
So we'll say it when people that are really good people

933
01:03:56,540 --> 01:03:59,920
decide to move on, but I'm wishing you the best

934
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:01,720
and moving on to things that you really are.

935
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:03,820
What I'm doing and Bob and Alan,

936
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,200
who both contribute to tremendous in the last four years.

937
01:04:07,820 --> 01:04:10,820
We had a busy four years, we had a lot of topics

938
01:04:10,820 --> 01:04:12,620
that we dealt with over the last four years.

939
01:04:12,620 --> 01:04:15,620
So, I think they're chickenly and out a little bit myself.

940
01:04:17,700 --> 01:04:19,800
Having said that, I'm sure they'll appear.

941
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:21,300
Back in front of us in some form.

942
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:23,180
We should both.

943
01:04:23,780 --> 01:04:24,280
Well, as well.

944
01:04:25,140 --> 01:04:26,080
Thank you, Michelle.

945
01:04:29,170 --> 01:04:30,710
Any correspondence or reports?

946
01:04:33,700 --> 01:04:35,060
Kind of make a motion to adjourn.

947
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:36,460
Thank you.