Ready. Thank you. Welcome everyone to the August 27th, 2026
public hearing for the Southampton Planning Board. We'll have a
roll call, please. Chair Lafaro, present vice chair affinity. Present.
The secretary is presence. Board member Fullman, Fulham. Board member
Glazer. Present. Board member Schultz. Present. Go ahead, member Mutu
is absent. We have a quorum. Thank you. Please join
us for Pledge of Allegiance. One
nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
Thank you. So we'll go in order of the public
hearings, John. Pacomb, pre - app. And we have sufficient
notice council. We do. David, would you like to read
to the record, please? Please take notice that in accordance
with local law number 14 of 2022, a public hearing
will be held. The Southampton Town Planning Board on Thursday,
August 27, 2026 at 6 p. m. at town hall
116 Hampton Road Southampton and via video conferencing to consider
the pre - application for the subdivision McConnell John. The
application proposes a three - lot subdivision on a vacant
2. 2326 acre property, 97, 254 square feet situated in
the R20 zoning district located 18 Vail Avenue, Eastquag County
Tax Map number 900 - 315 - 3 - 24.
You have to use the podium. Father Modium, yeah. I
have a few handouts. Thank you. Thank you for seeing
me. I have, as read a 92, 000 square foot
lot. 2. 25 acres. Can you give us your name
for the record? Sure. John Piccone. 30, we suck avenue,
East Coag, New York. That's all you have. Oh, okay.
Okay. We proposed divided them into three lots of about
32, 000 square foot average a piece. It's our 20
zoning. Two flags, 15 foot wide and told for the
rear, the second and third lot in the rear. The
front lot fronts on the street. I'm told that due
to 15 foot flags on the planning board would decide
what they want for the entrance. And I handed out
some pictures a little out. So you get a good
idea what it is. There's also pictures of the lot
itself. It's current condition going back into it. It was
a farm. Known as Carter Farm, nursery actually. And things
have changed. The family has passed on. Even though a
lot of Carters around here, the low carters in this
land anymore. So if you have any questions, more than
happy answer. To beautifully treed environment here. Yeah, it was
a nursery, and that's old nursery stock, actually. No, I
mean around you. Yes, on the left - hand side,
remnants of the old nursery, which are, I think there
were taxes ones are way overgrown plant that every 30
inches or every three feet apart. This is not native,
though. Left there. That's 22 veil. You know the square
footage of loter, excuse me, where footage of lot one?
I believe it's 28, 000. I've got to look it
up here. 27, 996. It's typically we like to keep
the rear lots of naflags larger. I mean, I don't
know whether you can meet the one and a half
times. They probably can't. I believe they all meet it.
But well, let me rephrase that. The two rear lots
meeted for sure. Uh, the front lot, the way that
the property shaped, it made sense to do it that
way, because I have a diagram here. So I can
show you, which majority of the lots are 80 foot
wide in that area. There are some 100 foot wide
ones. There actually is one down the street that has
five 15 foot flags. And one driveway going down about
16 feet wide, which has six slots attached to it.
So where is the flag going to be? The north
side, it looks like. Here in the front. On veil.
The north side. That's the driveway. I see.
Here. So is there anyone here who wishes to speak
to this application. Peter, is there anyone on Zoom. No
one. Any more questions from Boar? Motion to close with
the 10 - day written comment period by Dennis, second
bye. Most extensions, seven in favor. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Do you want to take these back? Okay.
The second application is HB Hotel Owners, formerly Drake in.
And what do we have noticed, Christine? Okay, great. Kate,
do you want to refresh that into the record? Yes.
Please take notice that in accordance with local law number
14 of 2022, a public hearing will be held by
the Southampton Town Planning Board on Thursday, August 27, 2026
at 6 p. m. at Town Hall 116, Hampton Road,
Southampton, and via video conferencing to consider the site plan
pre - submission application HB Hotel owner LLC, formerly Drake
N. The existing. Sorry, the site plan application is for,
to convert portions of the existing lobby slash office building
into a continental breakfast bar, an evening bar service to
serve on - site guests through enlargement of the existing
kitchen facilities, as well as to upgrade the existing sanitary
system to a new innovative alternative on - site wastewater
treatment system, consisting of a grease trap, septic tank, and
three leaching galleys. With room for 50 percent future expansion
in accordance with Suffolk County Health Department requirements located at
16 penny lane in the Hamlet of Hampton Bays. Suffolk
County tax map number 900 - 323 - 2 -
15 in a resort waterfront business zoning district. Good evening.
Daphne Vaughn, Surfside Environmental Planning, for Happy Acres Drive Shirley,
New York. Excuse me. So a lot of what I
was going to say was just said. The properties on
the west side of Penny Lane. It has a bulkhead
front - on penny pond. The bulkhead is functional. Uh,
we are in an RWB zoning district. There are multiple
buildings on this property, all functioning as a motel. Uh,
there's a total of 18 units plus, uh, lobby and
office area that are located in the landward most building
closest to the street. Uh, there's also an in -
ground swimming pool with associated patio decking around it that
this board recently issued an administrative approval for us to
refurbish. We actually submitted the building permit for that this
afternoon. Um, so as stated, we are proposing to utilize
the current lobby area for a continental breakfast and bar
service for the hotel guests. Uh, in order to facilitate
this, the street side building, uh, on the property needs
to have some minor interior renovations. Mainly the interior, um,
of the kitchen will have, uh, removal of the cooking
facilities and installation of new dedicated, um, septic system for
these things. Uh, we're going to be putting in a
three compartment sink, a separate mop sink and a commercial
dishwasher. These are all required by the health department and
have already been approved by the Department of Health. Again,
there is a new sanitary system dedicated just for this
purpose. Um, they will only be used for, uh, the
on - site guests. It can accommodate up to 12
people in the seating area. We've gotten a conditional approval.
From the state liquor authority for liquor license. I think
they need something from the town to authorize the use
of the space for the continental breakfast and bar. The
food service is really all going to be pre -
packaged. Food. Uh, for breakfast, uh, with limited drinks and
the snacks as well for the evening, uh, bar service.
So as I said, we've already gotten health department for
the sanitary system and for the food usage, for the
commercial, uh, continental breakfast. I did submit a picture of
the sunroom where the seating area will be located. It's,
there's really no changes to the exterior of the building.
This is all interior swapping of spaces. Teresa mason had
asked me for a floor plan, which we submitted showing
the facilities in the back and then the, you know,
your typical continental breakfast, uh, countertops for the seating area.
Um, that's really, really the gist of the project. Can
you say, can you, um, expand, uh, explaining about the
bar, why you are putting a bar in? Well, it's
just for the hotel guests so that they can kind
of mingle together and maybe have a glass of wine,
you know, something beer wine. I don't think there's any
crazy part of their continental breakfast. I mean, I apologize.
Irish heritage. Sometimes maybe that's necessary. No, so it would
be morning for breakfast for the morning. And then in
the evening, you know, to have like kind of meet
and greet kind of things. Was there an intention to
have a restaurant there when we first heard about this?
No, no. No more food. So what kind of snacks
are you going to have? Just prepackage? Uh, yeah. He's
got a menu here. He's got nuts and olives, some
chips, a soup that's going to all be bought ready
- made salads, you know, some sandwiches, things that are
just easily... They're going to take out the stove. So
they won't really be able to actually cook on site.
It's just a matter of having these separate sinks and
dishwasher for commercial facilities. And I don't even know that
he's using plates. I believe it's all going to be
like, you know, throw away plastic. So why does he
need the dishwasher, do you think? Oh no, it's a
health department probably. Yeah, you're probably right for glassware. Where's
the septic system going to go? The new septic system?
Just right between... So it's the landward most building. There's
going to be, actually, the surveys right here. So this
is the building where we'll be taking place and there's
going to be a septic here. I don't think this
is the right map. This, I think, is the one
that goes for the pool. But we've submitted multiple things.
The septic is furthest away from the water. Yes, it's
way all the way up here. And we already have
a health department approval for that. And what's in the
building now. Right now it's basically a lobby. There's a
small office and the couple of units in that building.
So the units would be unchanged. It's just the hangout
area for the check - in. So they're just utilizing
it for people to sit and eat something quick. And
go on with their day. Will it be open to
the public other than the hotel guests? No, not at
all. Just strictly for the guests. And the health department
has also made that stipulation that it's for on -
premise guests. Only no public. So there wouldn't be any
need for additional parking or it's whoever's there staying at
the motel would have access to these services. It's
unusual that we have breakfast and then a bar. So
that's what we're asking questions about it. I think part
of it is to try to get people to actually
communicate with each other in a vacation setting. You know,
I don't know. I think that's the gist of it.
To connect people. Barr will certainly help. And coffee in
the morning. Yeah, exactly. I'm with you, Florian. And I'm
sorry, and I should remember this. How many rooms are
there at the 18 units? There's 18 units. And the
population is mainly tourists or? Yeah. Families, tourists, couples, you
know, that kind of a thing. Transit use. This day
is what two weeks. So what's the, uh, I really
don't know offhand, but it's a motel. So it's not
like long - term. Might be just weekend guests kind
of thing, you know, weekly. Typical. Okay. So is there
anyone here who wants to speak to the application. Is
there anyone on Zoom, Peter. No one. Are there any
more questions on the planning board? No. Okay. Um, so
let's close with a, this is a regular site planet
comment period. Motion. Motion by, is that Kate? Yep. Yep.
Second byestly. Leslie, all in favor. Aye. Post abstention, seven
in favor. Thank you. Thank you. Moving on to item
number three. Sim Realty lot 25, 11 fox hollow. I
don't have any. No notice on it. Okay. No notice.
That means we can't open. Uh, then we'll jump to
number four, Lee Concord. And, um, I'm going to read
it. Yes. Please. We have notice. We have noted. Sorry.
Please take notice that in accordance with local law number
14 of 2022, a public hearing will be held by
the Southampton town planning board on Thursday, August 27th, 2026
at 6 p. m. at Town Hall 116, Hampton Road,
Southampton and via video conferencing to consider the site plan
application entitled One Lee Concord. This site plan slash special
exception application proposes to convert the use of five out
of six units of the south structure references building A
on the previously approved site plan entitled National Development Corporation
with an overall footprint of 15, 048 square feet from
general and special trade contractor to a pedel sports club
consisting of three pedel quarts. Pro shop office warmup space
to locker rooms, two water closets and 746 square feet
mezzanine viewing area on a parcel measuring 2. 788 acres
in the LI40 zoning district. And within the New York
state archaeological sensitive areas located at one leak on court
tuck a hoe suffolk county tax map number 900 -
158 - 2 - 8. 14.
Had a concern. Well, the concern should be the notice.
I can't pull after this. Uh, okay. Okay. Carl
Benicasa, 860 Montalk. Howie watermelon, New York for the applicant
with me also as John Woodsman, who will be conducting
the build out of the internal renovations we're discussing. Today.
And Ryan Frankel, who's a member of the applicant LLC,
and will be running and operating the facility once up
and running. As mentioned, what we're dealing with today is
an entirely internal renovation and site plan application. The development
will not change any exterior elements. Of this structure. As
mentioned, the southern building, which is the, uh, that you're
looking at there consists of six units. And five of
them will be used for the purposes mentioned. Previously by
Leslie. The internally there will be three pedel courts. And
a, uh, there was a mention of a mezzanine area,
which was part of our discussion previously. That is being
removed from the application. So there will not be a
mezzanine area. I know there had been some express concern
about congregating perhaps more demand on occupancy. So while we
do not believe that would have had much of an
impact we are removing the mezzanine area. Uh, as we
proceed with this application. The major concern when we first
spoke was parking. And I have prepared, as we mentioned,
there is no set parking governance in the code with
respect to this use. It's a very, um, specified use.
So when we spoke originally, we had estimated that each
court would have about an hour use per game or
match whatever you want to call it. And the maximum
usage would be, uh, four people per court. I think
Ryan will explain briefly that we were certainly underestimating the
amount of time that people use that. And actually, uh,
many games are two hours long. So that is actually
working in favor of your concerns. There'll be less demand
on parking. There'll be less, um, in and out of
the facility, which would have less impact on traffic. The
occupancy ratings demonstrate that the calculated occupancy, again, this is
subject to review and approval by the fire marshal, but
it's estimated to be 143. 66. Now under the code,
you have to do, you have to provide, um, as
one space for every three of occupancy, which would require
48 spaces. Now, as you may recall, there are 48
spaces devoted to this building. But eight of them have
to be associated with that six unit. So cannot be
used for this. So the occupancy load put us at
eight space deficit. However, given the, uh, approval authority of
this board and its ability to act within, you know,
the practical reality of how this is actually going to
work. I would just note that Pidell courts, the square
footage of the pedal courts is about 6, 534 square
feet and only 12 people at most can use that.
So I think that the occupancy calculations based on square
footage don't appropriately apply here. And I would think the
fire marshal will, uh, will reiterate that in determining their
calculations. So essentially 6, 500 square feet of commercial space.
But at most you're going to have 12 people in
that space. During the, during their matches. So what we
had proposed, uh, and in consultation with our engineer was
that we would have, we would allot for 12 spaces
for anyone on the court. 12 spaces for anyone that
was just finished their match and leaving the court. 12
spaces for people coming that would be next in line
to play on the game to play a match. And
then four spaces for staff, one full time staff operating
staff and then three instructors is the estimate. So when
you factor the actual use that the actual specifics of
the use, uh, we think that parking is more than
accommodated by this. I would also note that the total
development has 96 spaces and that, uh, those spaces are
rarely used up. Given the current uses. So if there
were spillover and spillover is always possible. Our parking calculations
are based on an estimations and they're based on best
guesses. But even for a standard parking calculation at a
restaurant, you could have everyone coming in their own car
and that would far exceed what's provided. So in the
event unlikely event of a spillover, there is most likely
very adequate spillover parking that could be utilized in the
rest of the development. I think that those were the
primary concerns. Ryan, if you want to come up and
just sort of talk about how these facilities work, what
kind of demands they place on parking and traffic. I
know that you're not necessarily well acquainted with these facilities
because there are not that many. So I think this
could be very helpful for you. Good evening. Members of
the board. Thank you for taking the time to review
our application. Really appreciate that. Um, just a quick intro
to who I am. I am one of the applicants.
Um, and I am also the operating partner of the
business that is leasing the five units in one leak
on court. Um, just a really quick background of myself,
um, I've lived in the Hamptons area for almost 15
years now, um, I was serving it predominantly as a
tennis professional. Um, and more recently as a paddle professional.
So I do a little bit of tennis and also
paddle. Um, so I'm just giving you that background just
so you know that I have a bit of experience
with, uh, with the sports themselves. And as a consumer
and also an instructor, I've been in many different paddle
clubs. And I know how they run and how they
operate. Um, so just, just, um, so that's, uh, that's
there on the table. Um, so yeah, as Carl mentioned,
uh, with predominantly going to be a private club, um,
and also I do want to just stress that, um,
with these paddle clubs, it's not a set time that
everyone comes at the same time. They're naturally very staggered.
Um, so some will may come, let's say at 8
a. m. and then another match could be at 8.
30 a. m. So in terms of traffic coming in
and out, it's not going to be concentrated with 7
a. m. 80 m, 9 a. m. or the courts
are full at the same time. Um, so that will
help with traffic flow in general. Um, also Kyle did
mention about there being three groups with the time that
we're expecting, which is two hours per session. Um, we're
actually only really going to have one group waiting and
one group playing. We're not even going to, that group
that finished would have gone long before that next group,
uh, would have come to play. So realistically, it's only
going to be 24 cars maximum. Um, and then the
minimum, assuming we've completely busy, uh, clearly full, which I'm
actually also going to touch on a second, um, that
would, it could be anywhere between three to 24 cars
to, yeah, cause the four people per court, yeah. So
it could be as little as three cars on our
busiest time, but it could be absolute maximum. It could
be up to 24 cars. Um, but that is worst
case scenario. But like I said with the staggering start
times and predominantly, uh, what we're expecting usage wise, I
also, I'm not sure if, um, uh, the, uh, the
operating summary was shared, but we submitted it a few
weeks ago. Just one thing I want to, I want
to stress also is that where our business model is
more in favor of our members, um, so we want
to make sure that our members have caught availability when
they want. So we're not trying our business, business model
isn't to try and fill the courts relatively low. So
the members can have courts when they want. So we're
anticipating somewhere between 30 to 35 percent court utilization on
average. We understand that there will be busier times and
there'll be less busier times. Um, but so yeah, out
of essentially three court bookings, we're only expecting one to
be filled on average. So we're not, we're not trying
to keep this place fully packed at all times. We're
really trying to benefit our membership with this. Um, so
I'm just making sure I haven't forgotten anything. Also, I
know that there was a question about, uh, tournaments, et
cetera, in the last meeting. Um, I just want to
make sure that, um, that if we do have any
tournaments, and I know this as a consumer of playing
some tournaments myself is that, um, there is, they're scheduled
start times. So when I play, I played in the
US Open paddle, which was the first one, um, ever
a couple of years ago. They give you schedule start
time. So if the 10 a. m. start time for
a tournament, then you show up maybe 20, 30 minutes
before. And at least you know whereabouts when you'll be
playing. People aren't going to be hanging around. Maybe they'll
go into town to do whatever they want to do.
And then they'll come and play, et cetera. So it's
not like everyone's going to be hanging out at the
space at all times during a tournament, for example. As
of right now, we're not planning on any, but I
know that was a question that came up. So I
did want to just address that as well. Um, and
I think that's pretty much where we're at. We want
to, we're really, we're going to allow non - members,
but on a much more restrictive, um, kind of booking
process. So, so again, we really want to make sure
our membership is satisfied. And also if we get to
a stage where we feel like our membership isn't satisfied,
then we will cut up non - members and we'll
just make sure that the membership get the court time
that they want. And we'll also potentially cap membership numbers
at a certain point if we feel like we're getting
to a stage where people are not getting the courts.
They want. And three courts is not a lot. Um,
and with 12 people, it could get to a stage
where we'll have to cap it, hopefully, in practice for
ourselves. Um, and as of, that's all I have written
down. So I'm happy to answer any questions on the
operating side as well. Will you be operating year round?
Yes. We're planning on operating year on months. Yes. Are
you planning any on - site amenities like a snack
barb? Yeah. So the pro shop where there'll be rackets
for sale and maybe some items of clothing. But it's,
it's a very small pro shop. I don't see anyone
being in there longer than 10 or 15 minutes at
any time. Will there be any restaurant or no restaurant?
We're not planning on making any food on site or
anything along those. The letter does say that the refreshment
area. Yes. Yeah. So that essentially means like a fridge
for drinks, but like non - alcoholic drinks, it would
just be like Gatorades, waters, et cetera. How many members
you anticipating? That's a great question. Um, so the thing
is with these membership clubs and working at a couple
of membership clubs myself, it really depends on how active
the membership is. If it's, we could, let's say we
get 150 members and they're all very active. We might
have the cap it at that. But if we also
have a, let's say we have 200 members and 100
members and not that actor, maybe they play once a
week as opposed to three or four times a week,
then that could affect the number that we get to.
We don't have a specific number, but I guess we're
going to kind of figure it out as we go.
Cause again, keeping the membership happier is on number one
priority. With this. And we have a staff person who's
coordinating all of that. Yes, exactly. I'll actually, I'm actually
planning on being on site full time myself. Um, so
it'll be locally owned and also locally run as well.
There's three other instructors. So yeah, those instructions will only
be there if we need them. They're not going to
be there full time. And truthfully that. So that again,
it comes down to that park and calculation a little
bit where we say 28 is maximum. Truthfully, if we
need our instructors, which we get us up to those
four numbers, it would be less people on site because
they'll be taking private lessons and potentially. So it could
only be one member with one coaching staff. So, so
in practice, it would actually be a little bit less
than 28 because we don't, we only really need one
person on site at any time if there's no private
lessons or anything along those lines. And if you have
a tournament that you don't know yet whether you will.
Is there an area for spectators? So we did remove
that mezzanine for now because we wanted to, we just
wanted to make sure that it wasn't going to be
too much congregation, especially at the beginning. We don't want
to, we don't want to feel like we're overchiving this
space. And I know there was concerns with traffic and
parking. So we wanted to make sure we address that.
Um, technically, could you watch from outside the court? Yes.
But it's not truthfully recommended because it's, it's pretty close
to the area of play. So we, so there's not
room for many spectators to be honest with you. And
can you talk a little bit about the balance? It's
described as a membership, uh, club, but you mentioned that
there might be some open times. Can you talk a
little bit more about the non - member you said?
Of course. Yes. So I think it's more of a,
it's like I said, predominantly membership, but we also want
to expose people to the sport that might not have
played it as the board may notice. It's a relatively
new sport. I don't even know how to pronounce it
if it's padel or paddle. Yeah. So you're asking the
right person for that actually. So a purist would always
call it paddle. It's always pronounced paddle. That's the purist
name. But what happened is that the sport that's in
a lot of country clubs, especially in the northeast, it's
called platform tennis that can also be called paddle tennis.
And that's where that was confusion. So some people just
started calling it pedel. Um, and actually has a bit
more of a nice ring to it. So I actually
like Pidel, but a purist of the sport would argue
with you how it's pronounced truthfully. Well, thank you for
that. That's not possible. Sorry. Very important to our deliberations,
but also the non - member piece. Let me touch
that. That was how you envision bringing people in marketing
it, you know? Yeah. So as I said, we're going
to push memberships as much as possible. Um, but again,
we want to get our membership up. So if the
people, for example, that are local that are in the
area that haven't played or want to check it out,
we want to give them the opportunity to come and
enjoy it, especially in, in the off season. I feel
like it's a good opportunity for some indoor activity from
other people that I speak to. That's something that can
be a little bit of a lack of that, uh,
in the area. Um, so we're going to do that
at the beginning just to kind of get some good
exposure for the, for the sport. And then the goal
is to just convert everyone into members. And there will
be a limit on how many non - members can
play. During certain time, especially if it's busy. They wouldn't
be allowed to just come whenever they want. So we're
going to try the non - members is more of
like a starting tool to have available to build up
our membership base. And also just to touch on that
also paddle is a four person sport in general. You
can play one versus one cross court. But in general,
it's four people. So it's actually kind of difficult to
find four people that are always the same level that
they're going to have a good time. So having a
one on two non - members joining in games can
just help with the membership being happier with it as
well. Um, but so yeah, that's. Will you have any
showering facilities? No, no plans on showering facilities. Just a
bathroom. One bath. So we're going to have one men's
ADA compliant bathroom. One women's bought and is currently five
and we're actually eliminating three of the bathrooms. So it'd
be nice. I'll septic do you have an eye. What
type of subject. I think was it. Check actually? I
know the load is sufficient. I can check the actual.
I'll provide written comment. Okay. And Carl, what's in the
sixth space? What's in the storage. Store it. But not
your storage. Not our storage, separate storage. Okay. It's a
regular septic system. Mr. Woodsman was aware. This facility was
built before the IA systems were actually usable. Um, so
this went with a conventional septic system. Uh, the ethyl
went load from the paddle club is going to be
substantially less than the, uh, workman and the constant use
of the buildings right now. It's going to be taking
a tremendous amount of load off of the septic system.
Is there anyone here who wants to speak to the
application. If you'd like to, yeah, absolutely. Please. Hello. I'm
Laura Milinshaw and I'm a local resident here. My husband,
my kids and I, we live on five Cameron Way.
We've known Ryan for many years. And he's taught my
kids how to play tennis. And now we're very into
Pidel. And I think this Pidell club, whenever we heard
started speaking about it, we thought it would be fantastic
idea because we love the fact that it's indoors. And
this would really be additive to the town and provide
activity for our kids, for us, for many members of
the community as well. And the off season when it's
raining last weekend, it would have been a perfect activity
when it was a washout. And, um, I think it's
a fantastic idea. So, uh, just here to voice my
support for the project. Great. Thank you. Sure. Is there
anyone else. Is there anyone on Zoom, Peter. No one.
Are there any more questions from aboard. Um, I would
just note, uh, that I was the closest residential area,
as you can see to the west is the driving
range to the south. There's an open space and the
train tracks to the east is more industrial. Directly to
the north as the second building, but just to the
north, there's that housing community. And the president of that
housing community reached out to me with questions about this.
And, uh, we had a nice conversation. His only concern
was, is there going to be any exterior alterations when
I told them there were not, he said there were,
he had no concerns. Well, that's good. Okay. No more
questions. Entertain a motion to close with a 10 day
written comment period by Kate, second by David, all in
favor. Aye. Opposed abstentions, seven in favor. Thank you very
much. Thanks. Section favor. Six and favor, sorry. Yes. One
absent. And motion to adjourn. Yeah. Peter, is that attorney
still on Zoom. Yes. Bringing one now. Okay. This is
where sim reality lot 25.
I may have to read it. Oh no, you weren't
reading it. No, no. Hi. Good evening. Can you see
and hear me? Yes. I'm Will Shapiro. I'm the attorney
for the applicant on this matter. I believe my client
is also, um, attending by a Zoom. I don't know
if we can get him on right now. Um, Mr.
Shapiro, we don't have jurisdictions open the hearing or anything.
I have none of the required paperwork that was filed.
We shouldn't get filed. The, the affidavits you mean? Correct.
I emailed those in earlier today and I just sent
them again, um, to the secretary of the board. I
need the physical actual, it's okay to do that in
advance, but they didn't get them until now because they
were in planning board all day. And I don't have,
I need the actual documents. To open the hearing. Hard
copy. We can't be hurt tonight. I mean, the notices
were sent out. Um, I mean, my assistant was out
today. I would have had her dropped them off if
I knew that the hard copies were needed. Well, you
need to file originals, right? When you take testimony and
stuff, I can bring the originals tomorrow. Um, I understand
that's maybe. Procedurally backwards, but if you could just make
an exception, um, that would be appreciated. But if your
hands are tied, I also understand that schedule. Whatever the
board wants to do. Yeah. We can get you on
the next hearing public hearing. He needs time to, if
that gives him time to post and. Are you saying
that you complied with everything? Absolutely. I personally went to
the property and hung the posters up in my client
who's on the, um, who's on the Zoom. He was
at the house today. My assistant, Jilly and Lewis, she
mailed out the, um, notices to all the adjoining landowners.
She signed the affidavit. I have it right. And then
it was up 10 days prior to today. Yeah. Hosting.
This is the affidavit for my assistant. And I emailed
this. So I don't know if you could read it.
I mean, I'm just trying to show you on that
Mr. Shapiro. You really have more at risk than we
do in terms of something somebody is contesting this. We're
here. You're going to have your application that would be
a jeopardy. So he is an attorney. So, um, I'm
going to assume he's telling the truth. And we, it's
up to the board. It's really still at your discretion.
You can open this tonight. Leave it open. Um, till
the next hearing date and, you know, if you want
to, um, it's up to you. I'm sorry. There's a
new. I'm a neighbor. I lived at 32 fox hollow.
We absolutely had the notice posted 10 days ago because
I sent a picture to a family member trying to
figure out what it was. Yeah. No, I appreciate that.
I just for legal purposes. I need to take the
attorneys. I'll take his word for it until he'll show
me this. If you can bring them here and keep
my open photograph of the notes, if you could, um,
make sure we get this stuff the originals tomorrow, if
the board chooses to open this tonight. If we open
it, do we have to keep it open? I would
keep it open to the next hearing. I would. So
until we have that document, right, and we can show
it. And then if anybody shows up that night, we'll
hear them. If not, we'll close it. And go on
our way. So, um, let's read this into the record.
You want to read it, Denice? Sure. It's number one.
Okay. Number three. Number three. Number three. Please take notice
of the chords with local law 14 2022 Republicarian will
be held by the South Am town. Planning port on
Thursday, August 27, 2026. At 6 p. m. town hall
116 Hampton Road, Southampton via video conferencing to consider covenant
amendment application entitled SIM Realty Associate Slot 25. The subject
property, Leavened Fox Hollow Drive, he's quag tax map number
900 288 to 16 known as lots 25 of simrealty
is approximately 1. 89 acres situate in the CR80 zoning
district with the act for protection overlay district is shown
on the survey prepared by Salis land serving date February
3rd, 2021. And last survives July 3rd, 2025 and is
requesting to allow for additional clearing. Okay. Thank you. Uh,
first off, I want to thank the board for hearing
us tonight. I seriously appreciate you guys being flexible on
that and taking my word for. That means a lot
to me personally and as an attorney. So thank you
for that. It's an initial matter. Can you get us
your name for the record? I'm sorry. Yes. I'm Will
Shapiro. My address is 135 Main Street, West Hampton Beach.
New York 11978. I'm here on behalf of the owners
of 11 Fox Hollow, Mark and Donni Stein. Um, we're
not actually looking to increase existing clearing. We're just looking
to legalize the existing clearing. Um, I don't know if
all the board members were able to review my application
letter. Um, but my clients purchased the property, um, in
2025, um, they have not cleared any additional property. Um,
I provided in my application a bunch of, uh, historical
references of the property, like some aerials and some surveys.
So the property based on the most recent survey from
Scalise land surveying is at 31 percent cleared The subdivision
declaration allows 20 percent overlay district would be 35 percent.
So that's why I requested the 35 percent's mouth, but
I don't think there's any plan to clear an additional
four percent I just went with the 35 percent number
because prior amendments to the clear and restriction granted in
this subdivision that I referenced in my application on lot
10 and I believe 27. So that's kind of where
we are. We're just trying to make sure the property
is legal so that we can proceed with some building
permits and whatnot Uh, the property again is to urderate.
It's currently a 31 percent. The subdivision declarations. That's always
good. No questions from board the purpose of having the
hearing is to give you for the public to be
made aware that your property is not within the current
subdivision clearing restrictions So by keeping the it opened right
give neighbors the opportunity to opine on that. And we
have a neighbor Right and we have and there Yeah
no one is here so Well, we do have someone
Did you want to speak. Do it I'm in favor
of it yet That's the podium Tell us who you
are right.
Give us your name please David Hart. Family trust owns
32 fox hollow. I'm at the exact number I'm at
32 percent cleared. Of them being able to clear. I
live in the area and I've seen my house this
year in the last six months has had Uh, half
a dozen trees fall. The the pine beetle issue is
killing a lot of the trees But I've had actually
two oaks fall. This year one fell into the pool.
Uh, thankfully the way it fell it did not harm
anyone in that storm That happened on I think it
was July 3rd or July 4th that sudden storm that
came up. Uh, it ripped one of the trees in
the yard in half. And so I Want them to
be able to do that because The area the trees
right now There seem to be a lot of problems
Not just with the pines, but with the oaks The
other tree in my yard that fell When they cut
it down I could provide pictures for the board Um,
carpenter ants had literally made it like a cartoon There
was that bad The trunk of the tree was 12
inches and the inside was missing nine inches of wood.
It was crazy. And so. They are I'm surprised it
says that they're at 31 percent cleared I walked the
property this morning. And I would have thought they were
less clear than that But I'd like them to be
able to clear. What they want or keep it cleared.
Because I think I appreciate that the need for protecting
and following the rules for the area I forget what
it is for the aquifer protection. And keeping a certain
amount of coverage on the ground. But there are a
lot of problems with both the oaks and the pines
in there. And I don't know some of my pines
and oaks are falling because there's an invasive vine. That
has grown up And I can't do anything to the
fine because I have to keep that area Uh... covered.
And so I just wanted to make sure I stood
up for a neighbor I've never actually met them. I've
seen them They just did an addition on their home
So I wanted to make sure to come and stand
up. And make the board aware. Great Thank you very
much Mr. Thank you. Anybody on Zoom. Anyone on Zoom.
Peter. Anyone else. Okay we're going to keep this open
until the next Do we have space on the next
Um... Public hearing date. Hopefully they'll just see an open
and a close. Yeah. Unless people show up. But it's
quick. Yeah Okay so we'll reschedule it for What's the
date. September 10. No we're giving the date You don't
need to renoice it We don't have to re -
notice it Excuse me I'm sorry The it looks like
the actual applicant wants to talk. Who does the owner
The applicant. Yes wanted to say something please Okay.
Please go ahead. Yes waiting for his clock. To get
something Oh his client. Per he is A little avatar.
Hello? Can you hear me? Yes Can we have your
name please? Yes I'm Mark Stein My wife and I
own the property. I Just I just want to thank
you for hearing us out tonight and just asking if
there's any possible way that We can Dispense with this
tonight as opposed to delaying a whole nother month. Is
there any possible way. We can't take an action tonight.
It's a hearing night. This is a public hearing Uh...
Portion So the planning board doesn't. Take actions on application
So we've rescheduled it for. September 10 And maybe you
could just do it by Zoom then Because it Okay
September 10th. Yeah. And if nobody shows up at that
point The board would more than likely close it and
may or may not have a written common period Okay
great Thank you very very much You're welcome Thank you.
Thank you guys always a pleasure appearing before you have
a nice night. Okay so we've noticed it But we've
scheduled it for September 10.