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I'd like to call the meeting to order.
Please rise and join me in the pledge of

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allegiance
to the flag of the United States of

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America and to the republic for which it
stands. One nation under God,

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indivisible, with liberty and justice
for all.

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Welcome everyone. Madame clerk, would
you please call the role?

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» Supervisor Moore,
>> present.

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» Councilman Neely,
>> present.

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» Councilman Isili,
>> present.

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» Councilman Pel,
>> present.

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» Councilwoman Mcame,
>> present.

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» Thank you. I move to accept the minutes
from the town board meeting of August

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25th, 2026.
>> All in favor?

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» I. Madam clerk, would you please read
the communications?

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» The following communications have been
received in the office of the town

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clerk. We have received public notices
from the town of Riverhead and notice of

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adoption, village of Northampton, notice
of adoption, village of Zag Harbor,

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Board of Historic Preservation and
Architectural Review, notice of public

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hearing for 120 Glover Street.
correspondence regarding the following.

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Belair Cove Motel Property, Hampton
Bays, Big Al's Clubhouse, Montalk

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Highway, West Hampton. Comprehensive
plan update. Optimum notice of changes

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to nonpromotional video and equipment
pricing. Parking lot closure, Main

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Street, East Quag. Property assessment
processes, proposed CPF acquisition of

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130 County Road 39 Southampton. The
following bid and RFP submissions were

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received. On Wednesday, August 2 uh 6,
the bid for solar PV installation at

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Flanders Community Center.
And the following was report was filed

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by the town comproller, a debt statement
dated August 27th, 2026

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for $18,445,000.
And that concludes our communications

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for this meeting's agenda.
Thank you. I have two resolutions that

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are proposed to be walk-ons. The first
is resolution 2026-1344

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to authorize the acquisition of 1719
North Sea Road in the Hamlet of North

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Sea and to amend the CPF project plan
and the CPF management and stewardship

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plan to include the property. And the
second is resolution 2026-1350,

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the warrant number 17. I move to add
these two items to the agenda.

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» Second.
>> All in favor?

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» I
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All right. So, uh, at this time, I move
to take resolution number 2026-1327

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on page 69 out of order.

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» All in favor? I

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And this is a resolution to accept the
retirement of Christopher Spec. Uh

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resolution 2026-1327.
The town board um hereby accepts the

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retirement. And we have a proclamation
for Mr. Spect. And some people want to

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speak on his behalf. if he's here with
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» Tom.
>> Okay.

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» Tom. Tom, why don't you come up come up
to the podium with Chris?

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» Yes.
>> We should vote on the resolution to give

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a second.
>> So, same second.

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» Second.
>> All in favor?

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» I
>> come on up.

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» Look at this special guest star today.

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» Wow.
>> Thomas Horton, town engineer Olive Hton,

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Infant.
Uh this is Chris Spect. Uh Chris has

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worked for the town for 20 years as a
sanitation helper. Chris is out there in

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the rain, in the snow, in the heat, in
the cold. He's the first face that most

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of our residents see when they come to
town. They go to the transfer station to

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drop off their waste, their recyclables,
and and they meet Chris. They ask Chris

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questions. Chris answers them. He helps
them. He is honestly the first line that

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that every resident gets to talk to. Um
Chris has primarily been stationed at

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Hampton Bays lately. Um so we we tried
to give Chris's joint position as close

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to his home and and Chris has devoted a
significant amount of time to probably

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the worst job in the town. Uh dealing
with sanitation and refugees all day. It

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it takes someone special to be able to
do that. Um and to stick it out 20 years

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and make retirement. And we just
appreciate everything that Chris has

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done for us
>> and to do it with a smile.

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» Thank you. Right.
Ross first

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» and I heard that you were involved with
finding that ring that got lost at the

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transfer station.
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I found that and I've gotten keys out of
on top of the cardboard at Sag Harbor

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with the pole
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she lost her container. Special thing I
got that out of Sag Harbor. I reached in

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there and everybody clapped. So, you
found some treasures over the years that

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people have lost.
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outside, which is nice, except in the
weather, except the real cold and

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winter. But
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proclamation on behalf of the town board
and the town. If you want to

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DO

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» Thank you.
>> Congratulations. Thanks for all your

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work.
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» Thanks, Chris.
>> Thank you.

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» Hold up.
We only give those to special people.

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» Oh wow. Just turn.
>> Yeah. Let's take a picture.

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» Thank you.
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» You're welcome.
>> Congratulations.

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» You're retired.
>> So Chris's last day is tomorrow.

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» Yes.
>> That's your official final day and we're

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going to miss you.
>> Thank you. So you deserve it smoothie,

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» you know,
>> especially the nice ones

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» cuz there are some ones that don't like
appreciate us.

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» I know. I know. But hold out for the
ones that do.

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» Yes.
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» Thank you.
>> Thank you, Chris.

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» Gosh.

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How old is she now?
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Squeeze them.

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» Got to get a helmet.
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» Thanks for coming in, Tom.
>> Yeah, of course. Thank you.

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All right. So, thanks everyone. Let's
move ahead with our public hearings.

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Madame Clerk, would you please read the
notice for the first public hearing?

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Public hearing number one to consider
the acquisition of enhanced development

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rights on the property located at 141
Deerfield Road in Watermill and amend

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the CPF stewardship plan to include
property.

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» Uh good afternoon, madam supervisor,
town council members. Uh my name is

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Jacqueline Fenlin, director of community
preservation. Uh we are here before you

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today as um madame clerk has provided to
um propose the uh purchase of

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approximately 15.3 acres of property but
this would be for the enhanced

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development rights. So to remind
everyone we started the development

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rights program. Uh this is essentially a
more critical tool to maintain

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sustainable food production. um ensure
that the property is going to a bonafide

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farmer and also set a resale value. Uh
this uh restricts at least 80% of the

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property enhanced development rates will
be in actual active cultivation allowing

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for the other 20% for um infrastructure,
driveways, barns, etc. Uh so this is a

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program that the town started and
approximately 15.3 acres will be

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preserved through the enhanced
development rights easements which I'll

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just point in yellow highlighted on
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Uh and just to um clarify the area that
I did not kind of outline that will be

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uh allowed to be residentially developed
into four residential lots. The yield

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for this subdivision was nine lots. So,
we're theoretically preserving five

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development rights. Um, so five home,
five additional homes that could have

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been built on the property. Um, and
North Lot LLC has proposed they are the

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purported owner. They have expressed an
interest in selling at a total cost not

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to exceed $6,500,000.
And they are here today. We have the

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principal of North Lot LLC and his
representing attorney is here if you

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have any questions as well.
>> They're in the audience.

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Well, I don't have any questions.
Anybody have any questions for Jackie? I

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do have one card though, so don't go
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» that is the principal of North Lot LLC.
>> Would you like to say

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» Would you like to say a few words?
>> Come on up. As long as you're here.

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» Yeah. So, we're excited. So, this will
stay in farm farm preservation. It will

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stay privately held. Uh but we are
restricting the area noted in the yellow

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diagonal lines and this is a principal.
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it's my family who I'm one of the
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brother also own this property and we've
we farm at the green thumb farm stands.

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All this whole property is certified
organic. It's been certified organic for

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over 30 years since 1990 or so. And uh
we want to keep farming. we have some of

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the next generation that want to farm.
So, we're trying to uh take some of the

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value off our property and uh preserve
it for farming as well as uh four house

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lots here which will be uh for some of
the next generation of farmers. So, we

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will have housing as well whether we use
it for um the owners or uh workers. Um,

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we'll see in the future, but um, uh, so
I think it's a good idea and I think,

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uh, the town should try to save whatever
farmland they can because it's going

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awful fast.
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» Thank you.
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» Kevin. Are is there anyone on Zoom for
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» No one on Zoom.
>> I just had a quick question for Jackie.

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Those aren't separate uh pieces, are
they? I I know when you you you just

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circled. Um so this will be the a
reserve which we're purchasing the

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enhanced development rates off of. Okay.
>> Um the planning board is reviewing a

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subdivision uh which will carve out the
four individual residential lots which

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will be in that portion there.
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» Yes. Yep. So not a separate lot yet but
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» Okay. Thank you for that clarification.
>> I actually have one person on Zoom

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» comment.
>> There's one on Zoom right now.

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» Oh okay. Bring them on.

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She's here for public portion.
Kevin, I'm pretty sure she's here for

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public portion.
I spoke because I spoke to her today.

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Hello.

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» What?

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What is that?

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What?
>> It looks like she left. I don't know.

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Okay.
>> She might have been here for later.

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» Well, then if there's no other comments,
I move to close the first public

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hearing.
>> Second.

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» All in favor?
>> I. Madam clerk, would you please read

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the notice for the second public
hearing?

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» Public hearing number two to amend the
community housing fund project plan in

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order to increase the maximum loan
amount share the firsttime home buyer

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down payment assistant program and to
establish a pro-rated repayment

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forgiveness formula for eligible
volunteer first responders.

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Good afternoon, Madam Supervisor, town
board members, and members of the

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public. Hope everybody had a nice uh
holiday weekend. I'm very excited to

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present this to you today. In 2024, the
town board adopted the community housing

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fund project plan. This included a down
payment assistance program for

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incomequalified firsttime home buyers,
also known as DPAL.

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Today, I'm asking the board to consider
three changes to the DPAL program.

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First, remove the current 3% cap on down
payment assistance and give the board

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the flexibility to provide assistance
that reflects the realities of

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Southampton's housing market.
Second, create a loan forgiveness

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program for qualified volunteer first
responders who receive the DEPAL and

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continue to serve our community. And
third, commit an additional 4 million

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from the community housing fund to the
new DEPAL program.

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These three changes are about one
fundamental issue.

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Housing in Southampton has just become
too expensive for many of the people who

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work here and who serve our community.
Suffach County has called affordable

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housing a crisis.
In Southampton, where the medium home

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sales price is approximately $2 million,
I think it's fair to call it an acute

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crisis.
We all know that people who work in our

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hospitals, schools, public service, and
local businesses are struggling to

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afford to live here, and so are the
volunteer first responders we depend on

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to protect our community.
We see the consequences every day in the

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long commutes created by the traffic.
So, the question isn't whether we need

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affordable housing. The question is,
what can we do right now to make home

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ownership more attainable?
I believe that the down payment

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assistance loan program is one tool we
have available to address that

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challenge.
But we have to make that tool effective

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under the current program. Since the
community housing fund began collecting

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revenue in April of 2023,
approximately $55 million has been

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generated.
Approximately 28 million remains

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uncommitted to a specific housing
project or program.

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In 2024, the town board allocated $1.25
million to the down payment assistance

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program to help firsttime home buyers
purchase a home in Southampton.

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The current program can give an eligible
buyer a 0% interest loan of up to 3% of

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the home price that is only paid back
when the home is sold or refinanced.

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We've marketed the program. We've
educated potential buyers. We've worked

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with our program administrator,
Community Development of Long Island.

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And Gwen O'Shea, the um director, is
here today.

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And yet, in two years, only three
households have received assistance.

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So, I think that tells us something. The
problem is not simply that people don't

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know about the program. The problem is
is that 3% just simply isn't enough.

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That is why I'm proposing to increase
the DPALL assistance to 18%.

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This isn't just about giving someone a
bigger down payment. It's about changing

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the math.
More DPAL assistance means a smaller

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mortgage. A smaller mortgage means a
lower monthly payment. And in many

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cases, it can eliminate private mortgage
insurance as well. that can

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significantly reduce the income a
household needs to purchase a home.

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Let's take a look at two examples that
show how 18% DPAL can make a difference.

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And I'm going to pass out to the board a
copy of the graph that is here on the

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board for the public.

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So, let's look at two examples here. We
have an example of a home that's priced

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at $750,000.
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$950,000.
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With 3% depal from CHF,
the $750,000

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home will have a monthly payment of
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That includes taxes and homeowners
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Someone who wants to buy that home with
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annual income of $236,000 almost
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annually.
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CHFD PAL,
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home will cost somebody $4,700 a month.
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insurance and taxes.
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$188,000.

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That's a difference of $1,200 monthly in
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in salary. All right.
>> Is it limited though? Isn't it in the

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program income limited? So the program
income is limited to under the uh town

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law uh 64k.
Uh for one to two people it's 197,000

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and for three or more it's 230,000.
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somebody one to two people could afford
a $750,000

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home with the 18% depal
under the program. That's why nobody

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came for the 3% because they couldn't
afford it. No, they didn't qualify for

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the program if you had to make $236,000.
>> Correct. Yeah. Right. So now let's look

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at the example of a $950,000 home under
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Somebody would need to pay 7264
monthly. That includes your principal

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and interest, homeowners insurance, and
taxes. And in order to sustain that,

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they're going to need an income of
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But if we increase the DPL to 18%,
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$950,000 home is $5700 monthly.
And somebody earning $229,000,

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a household earning $229 would qualify
for that $950,000 home.

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So, this equates to a savings of $1,500
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$61,000 a year annually in income.
So, those are real real numbers there.

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And so this is why
I'm recommending that the increasing the

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down payment assistance is so important.
It really can make a difference between

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somebody qualifying and somebody not
qualifying to buy a home. But there's

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another significant advantage to DPAL.
We don't have to build new housing to

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create affordable home ownership.
DPAL allows us to use the existing

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housing inventory throughout the town
rather than concentrate it in one

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development. No new no land acquisition,
no new development approvals, no new

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construction, no increase in density.
The program makes an existing home

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affordable.
And I've included here also I could pass

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these out to the board some photos of
some of the homes that have sold in 2026

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in these price ranges between 750 and
950 and they include both sides of the

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canal. You can see we even have one in
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» Can I just Kevin, can you just Oh, good.
Everyone, thank you.

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We have two in East Quag, threebedroom,
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one in North Sea on North Sea Road in
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in Hampton Bay.

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The second proposal I have for you today
addresses another challenge facing

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Southampton,
recruiting and retaining volunteer first

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responders.
Our fire departments, ambulance

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companies, and other emergency services
depend on people who live here and who

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are willing to serve, but is becoming
increasingly difficult for those

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volunteers to afford to buy a home and
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So, I'm proposing a first responder loan
forgiveness program.

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An important point of this program is
that first responders would not

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automatically receive the DPALL
assistance. They would first have to

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qualify for DPALL just like anyone else
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Then after receiving the DEPAL, a
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could earn forgiveness through continued
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For each year of qualifying service, 10%
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forgiven.
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DPAL loan could be forgiven.
Past service doesn't count, so

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forgiveness would have to be earned.
If someone stops qualifying before

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completing 10 years, the remaining loan
balance would continue to be repaid back

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to this community housing fund.
So, this program, this program creates a

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direct connection between two town
priorities, helping people afford to

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live here and helping to ensure that
people who protect us can continue to

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serve here. The forgiveness program
gives that person an incentive to stay

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and serve.
And finally, if we agree that 18%

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assistance can make a meaningful
difference, then we need to fund the

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program at a level that can actually
make an impact. That's why I'm asking

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the board to commit an additional $4
million from the community housing fund

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to the DPALL program.
We have an opportunity to take an

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existing program that has not yet had
the impact we've hoped for and make it

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work. So, in summary, I'm asking the
board to consider three things today.

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One, give the board the flexibility to
increase DEPAL assistance from 3% to

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18%.
Create an earned down payment assistance

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loan forgiveness program for qualifying
volunteer first responders. And three,

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committed an additional $4 million to
the DPAL program. I think it is

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important for the board to know that
this is a practical tool that we can use

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right now.
It uses our existing housing stock. It

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helps first-time buyers overcome the
biggest barrier to home ownership, the

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cost.
And it gives us another way to keep the

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people who work and serve here from
having to live somewhere else.

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If we want Southampton to remain a
community where working families, young

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people, and the people we rely on to
protect and serve us can actually afford

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to live here, we need to make our
housing programs meaningful enough to

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make a difference.
I believe these changes to the down

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payment assistance program loan loan
program are a step in that direction. I

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thank you for your consideration. We
have um Joyce Yansy, our chair from the

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CHF advisory board who would like to say
a few words.

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» I want to just thank you for coming up
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us. Certainly is appreciated. Um and I
especially like what you said about that

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it's uh using existing housing stock.
Um, I do have some questions, but we can

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wait for Joy to present also.
>> Okay, sure.

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» Good afternoon. My name is Joyce Ciance.
I'm here today on behalf of the

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community advis housing fund advisory
board as well as myself. As Caribbec has

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shared, despite significant outreach and
marketing efforts, the CHF down payment

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assistance program adopted in the pro
project plan has not effectively

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addressed the unique housing challenges
of our community with only three

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families to date benefiting from it. The
3% benefit is simply not enough

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financial assistance to make this dream
of home ownership a reality in our

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community given the high cost of
housing, the limited supply of homes

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priced within reach of firsttime home
buyers.

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The community housing fund advisory
board voted unanimously to recommend

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that the town board adopt an amendment
to the CHF housing plan to remove the 3%

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cap on first-time home buyer assistance
to authorize up to 18% first-time home

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buyer assistance from CHF funds to
commit the additional $4 million from

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the fund
>> to fund this amended program and to

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create the loan forgiveness feature for
eligible volunteer first responders. As

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Cara has described,
as you're aware, uh the CHF project plan

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guides our advisory board to, among
other things, provide financial

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assistance to alleviate the housing cost
burden and to provide housing options

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for seniors, disabled persons, and
members of the workforce.

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We believe the proposals put forth today
by Miss Bach very well demonstrated by

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the comparative examples achieve these
mandates.

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I appreciate the opportunity to present
the advisory board's recommendation for

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your consideration.
Um, in addition, I am here to represent

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not just the advisory board, but I also
wanted to share my personal insights,

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having spent 26 years as a senior
executive at Fanny May, dedicated to

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affordable housing, focused not only on
helping people realize the dream of home

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ownership, but also on helping them to
maintain that affordable home ownership

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successfully over time. It is very well
established that one of the greatest

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obstacles to home ownership for
first-time home home buyers is the

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ability to save enough money for the
down payment and closing costs. And now

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more than ever, first-time home buyers
face severe severe affordable issue

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affordability issues driven by high home
prices, elevated mortgage rates, low

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supply of house, affordable housing,
as well rising rental rates, and student

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loan repayments exacerbate the
challenges they face to save for their

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down payment. In fact, in 2025, the
National Association of Realtors noted

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that the average age of a first-time
home buyer has reached 40 years old,

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which is an all-time high since they
started tracking that data in 1981.

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While the national statistics are
daunting, they can be even more

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challenging in our township given the
affordability of our housing, where the

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median home price has reached $2
million. We need to find a way to give

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first-time home buyers, including those
who volunteer as our crucial first

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responders, a fighting chance in our
market. I believe what Miss Bach has

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proposed and demonstrated in the example
she walked us through give us a better

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chance to do just that. So, thank you
for the opportunity to present the

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advisory board's recommendation and to
share my personal thoughts for your

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consideration of the proposals.
>> Thank you, Joy.

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And uh Claire Sheay is here.
>> Gwen, I'm sorry. Gwen.

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» Oay.
>> Ohea. I'm sorry.

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» Oh, not at all. Thank you so much. Um,
thank you, madam supervisor and council

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members for uh and the public for giving
me an opportunity to share some thoughts

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today. As Cara mentioned, I'm Gwen
O'Shea, president and CEO of Community

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Development Long Island. I want to echo
um supervisor your comments working with

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Carara. She's so innovative and
thoughtful and really so committed to

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fulfilling the mission of the CDA and we
are privileged to work with her and her

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team and obviously with all of you. Um
the comments that you heard I think

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really cover it, but I do just want to
um underscore a couple of the points in

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particular that Cara shared. So at our
organization um we're a nonprofit that's

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been serving Long Island for um decades
now. And one of the areas that we really

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focus on is home ownership and
sustainable home ownership. And I think

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um there are three key pieces that Cara
mentioned that I wanted to underscore as

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it relates to creating and sustaining
home ownership opportunities here in the

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town of Southampton. Um the cost of
living in our region is higher than it

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has ever been. And we know for so many
individuals hearing the average age now

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at 40, so many of those individuals are
coming in with good incomes, great jobs,

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but because of high cost of education,
paying rent in a rental market that is

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really does not have a lot of
availability, people do not have the

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money and they will not have the money
anytime soon based on the cost of living

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in our in our area. So having a much
more robust robust down payment

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assistant allowance like an 18% is
really going to open the doors for so

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many residents to be able to close on
home ownership.

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» The other two pieces that it's really
important to underscore here is that as

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we know how expensive it is to live in
our region to sustain affordable home

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ownership for the long term people have
to be paying an amount in mortgage that

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is sustainable to allow for that
success. So to really drive down that

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overall, as you've seen here, and these
are two great examples, really driving

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down that overall monthly mortgage
payment is key to allow individuals to

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stay in their home for the long term and
see the building of equity for

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themselves and their family. And the
other piece, I think the third piece

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that's really, really important that
Cara touched on is this opens up

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opportunity throughout the town. By not
having it be one development only that's

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affordable. Having it be able to be cut
across and bought purchased throughout

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the town is really going to open more
opportunities for individuals to become

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home buyers and really a allow for those
funds to be accessed by individuals who

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are looking to complete home ownership.
So, we stand ready to see an increase if

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the town should decide to increase the
down payment assistance up to 18% to

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work with families. Me, many of the
families that have come to us interested

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in utilizing the program do not have the
down payment assistance that they need.

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And so, being able to direct them to
this new enhanced program, we believe

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will allow for more home ownership to be
created within the town of Southampton.

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So, thank you very much for the
opportunity. Um, go ahead,

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» Miss M O'Shea. Um, first and foremost, I
just want to thank you so much for your

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efforts and the organization's efforts
in being an intermediary with the town

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of Southampton and specifically our CHF
department, which um, we meet monthly.

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Um, and it was discussed at these
monthly meetings with Councilman Neely

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as well that that we're not seeing the
type of engagement on the 3% uh, down

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payment program. Um, can you talk a
little bit about how you as CDLI would

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be that intermediary to work with the
town and in in doing so, can you talk a

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little bit about how you also help other
local municipalities in that regard?

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» Sure. Sure. And thank you so much for
those comments and um we appreciate all

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the time that that you all put in on
thinking this through. So, as a

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nonprofit organization, it's our job to
ensure that we are being objective and

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providing comprehensive information to
individuals to make the best decision

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for themselves and their family based on
their financial situation. So, what

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we'll be doing, what we have done and
will continue to do is doing a lot of

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robust marketing and outreach around
should the town uh board decide to

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increase the down payment assistance,
we'll be doing a lot of robust

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marketing. We'll be having on-site
events here within the town. We'll be

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offering virtual classes. It's really
important that individuals understand

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the full picture about what becoming a
home buyer is. And so in working with

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us, again, we're not looking to direct
anyone to any any mortgage lender or

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purchase any specific property. We want
individuals to be empowered and educated

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on what successful home ownership looks
like. So, we have um a home ownership

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00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:02,720
orientation. We have one-on-one
counseling. Some of the individuals that

426
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,599
have come through us already aren't yet
ready for home ownership to be quite

427
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:08,560
honest, right? individuals think about
it but don't really understand the

428
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:12,160
importance of credit or building their
credit or maybe there's been an issue

429
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:16,400
that has caused some blemishes on their
credit history and so our team can work

430
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:20,640
with an individual to really get to a
position where they're able to access

431
00:35:17,839 --> 00:35:24,720
the best rate possible they can go to a
variety of lenders to access that that

432
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:27,520
they're informed on all the different
lending opportunities that are out there

433
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:30,480
that they're in the best financial
position to say okay you know we're

434
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:34,400
looking at your debt to income we want
to make sure you're not out over your

435
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:37,280
skis right you want to have some a a
little bit of a cushion, if you will, as

436
00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:41,040
you're paying your monthly mortgage
payments. And so, helping individuals

437
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:44,880
understand what that looks like. And
then, as we go through that process with

438
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,920
them, should they be ready the day that
they come in, what we do is we work

439
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:50,880
closely with the office to say, "Okay,
here's a homeowner. Here's their

440
00:35:49,359 --> 00:35:53,760
financial situation. Here's what they
qualify for. They're going out and

441
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,800
they're looking, you know, for a
property that really works for them in

442
00:35:55,359 --> 00:36:00,880
their financial situation." And then
once that individual is able to find

443
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:05,040
that property, then the town uh Cara
represents the town and will be present

444
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:08,240
at the closing to provide the down
payment assistance to ensure that that

445
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,960
transaction can happen. Does that answer
your question?

446
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:14,720
» Absolutely. It's great to have you be in
partnership with the actual applicant

447
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:18,720
because a lot of people want to know
like what what is the next step and

448
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:23,359
that's a very important feature and I
know uh CDLI has been very successful

449
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:26,560
with this uh with the ADU program in
particular. Casey from your team has

450
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:30,800
been really excellent and and a lot of
our constituents appreciate what you do

451
00:36:28,240 --> 00:36:35,359
with with Cara. Can I just ask and this
might be for you and or car uh cara but

452
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:39,839
let me just let me ask the the
difference between the 3% and what we're

453
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:45,119
proposing the 18% there there is a
particular I if forgive me if I'm

454
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:50,079
incorrect there is a change in the loan
structure in it being higher correct in

455
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:55,440
in in how that is paid off for the
applicant or no

456
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:59,040
» Kevin Kevin can you put the um the uh
chart up yeah thank you

457
00:36:57,359 --> 00:37:04,560
» is there is there a difference in the in
in the loan structure itself uh in terms

458
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:08,720
of how uh a applicant will be paying it
off. For instance, if they are if they

459
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:14,720
are approved of that 18% do they have to
start paying that off right away or is

460
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:19,599
there some time that they have uh before
they have to start paying that loan?

461
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:25,040
» So, uh our down payment assistance loan
is a 0% interest loan that's not paid

462
00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:30,240
back until the homeowner sells or does a
cash out refinance. So whether it's 3%

463
00:37:27,839 --> 00:37:34,240
or 18% is going to work the same way.
All right? And that's and and that's

464
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:39,520
important because that's what makes the
home affordable is the fact that that

465
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:43,440
lean will stay on the property. If it's
18% it will stay on the property and

466
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:48,000
that homeowner won't have to make any
payments on it and they just pay back

467
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:52,560
that original amount that they borrowed
when they sell the home whenever that

468
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:55,839
may be and it gets paid back to CHF. the
CH

469
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:58,960
» and the sale price is there any limit on
uh you know is it going to stay

470
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:03,520
affordable or
>> no? So that's the thing is that the way

471
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:07,280
this program works is that homeowner
they pick their own home that they want

472
00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:14,560
they the home of their choosing that
they obviously can qualify for um and

473
00:38:11,359 --> 00:38:18,720
they earn all the equity on it. So they
when they sell the home they earn all

474
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:25,920
that equity and they just pay back what
they borrowed um to the CHF fund. Um, I

475
00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:32,240
just wanted to note, um, so the our in
our partnership with CDLI,

476
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:37,280
CDLI runs the, um, first-time home
buyer, um, counseling program for us.

477
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:41,359
And it's an eight-hour program that
somebody can they have to go through it

478
00:38:39,359 --> 00:38:46,800
before they actually are qualified for
the down payment assistance program. We

479
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:50,800
have a uh, a program coming up in
October that will be in person. They can

480
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:55,200
certainly take it virtually if they want
to, but we have an in-person program

481
00:38:53,119 --> 00:39:00,160
that will be we're going to promote this
as we get closer to the date, but it

482
00:38:57,119 --> 00:39:06,240
will be occurring on October 24th in the
Hampton Bay Community Center. And CDLI

483
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:12,480
has been just wonderful with us in in
working and getting together local

484
00:39:09,119 --> 00:39:17,119
people who can speak about the process.
you know, they speak about, you know,

485
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:21,280
uh, how the mortgage process goes, how a
home inspection goes, getting homeowners

486
00:39:19,359 --> 00:39:25,040
insurance, all of the things that people
need to know when they're going to buy

487
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:29,760
their first home. So, I just wanted to
mention that and uh,

488
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:35,200
I wanted to make a a couple of points
and one was I probably wouldn't be a

489
00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:40,160
homeowner if it wasn't for Opaton down
payment assistance. So, I'm a big

490
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:42,960
proponent of this. Um, and I we had a
work session on this. I just want to

491
00:39:41,359 --> 00:39:46,320
thank you for really explaining it to
the board and and getting everybody on

492
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,960
the same page and understanding of
everything that's going on. But one of

493
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:53,440
the things that you'd mentioned that I
just wanted to make a point of was

494
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:56,800
actually two things. One is, you know, I
I don't see this exploding and us

495
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,920
running out of money because let's face
it, you know, finding homes under a

496
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,359
million dollars in the town of
Southampton is going to be challenging

497
00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:09,440
enough. Finding those homes are
generally going to be west of the canal.

498
00:40:05,599 --> 00:40:14,240
All of all of the homes that CHF is
currently financing for home ownership

499
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:16,880
are east of the canal. Correct.
Currently.

500
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:23,280
» So, all of the ones that we're all of
the projects that we're working on to

501
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:26,960
construct and develop um the majority
are east of the canal. Not all of them,

502
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:30,800
but the majority. So, and we're trying
to focus on that. Yeah. So, so I mean,

503
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:34,480
so we can kind of almost help fill that
gap whereby, you know, you may be able

504
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:38,560
to find something under a million west
of the canal, but then east and and not

505
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:42,400
add to the density and then east of the
canal where we can add some units. We

506
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:45,520
are trying to do that. And then the
other point that you had mentioned and

507
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:54,000
touched on, it's something that I think
is important to mention is with this

508
00:40:48,960 --> 00:41:00,880
with the um uh repayment forgiveness for
um for uh first responders, I'm sorry.

509
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:05,119
Um when you mentioned the cash out
refinance, right? So you can get into a

510
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:09,760
home potentially you can live in it for
10 years. you can volunteer your time

511
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:13,760
and you can have that repayment loan
paid off and then you can do a cash out

512
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:16,560
finance to make improvements to that
home and not have to worry about paying

513
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,359
that loan back.
>> Right. Right.

514
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,880
» Certainly, you know, if somebody wants
to put in a swimming pool or something

515
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:28,400
like that and they're cashing out their
equity, you know, we want them the town

516
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:32,560
or CHF should get paid if that's the
case. So, you know, that's the reason

517
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:35,359
for that. Uh, you know, only if it's a
cash out if they're refinancing

518
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:40,880
» that again. item.
>> Okay. So, if they're re there's two t

519
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:45,359
two times people usually refinance. One
would be to change the interest rate. If

520
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:50,000
the interest rate, you know, is lower
and they're just doing uh a refinance to

521
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:55,359
change the interest rate and they're not
taking any equity out, right? we we have

522
00:41:53,280 --> 00:42:00,400
to come in and you all would have to
approve a subordination of our lean

523
00:41:57,839 --> 00:42:05,280
because our lean CHF's lean would be in
second position be behind you know the

524
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:12,160
first mortgage uh that they used to buy
the house um if they're cashing out if

525
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:16,560
they're doing a a refinance to cash out
to get some funds to maybe put in a

526
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:22,160
swimming pool or something like that
some kind of home improvement

527
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:25,920
then we would ask that they pay off that
CHF lean first before they go and do

528
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:31,440
something like that.
>> But in the example Cindy just gave, it

529
00:42:28,319 --> 00:42:32,480
was that the 10 years had gone by and
that

530
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,599
» right
>> their loan is forgiven.

531
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:39,920
» If they were a volunteer
and they and they qualified under the

532
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:45,920
volunteer, the volunteer first responder
program and then their loan, their CHF

533
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:50,960
loan was forgiven,
then they our our loan is forgiven. we

534
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:54,160
would issue a satisfaction of that loan
and then they could go and cash out.

535
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,960
» So, perfect example, you want to send
your kids to college and you need to use

536
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:01,920
some of the equity in your house to take
out a loan, you can do that now without

537
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:06,079
having to use that money to pre to pay
back this this loan because you've done

538
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:08,160
it in kind with service.
>> Exactly. Right.

539
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:13,440
» But if it's before the 10 years is
expired or someone who's not a a first

540
00:43:10,319 --> 00:43:17,440
responder, then they would need to uh
it's in the agreement that they would

541
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:21,680
have to pay back the loan.
>> Yes. right before they could cash out,

542
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:29,280
» they would have to come to the town to
ask the town to subordinate the lean and

543
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:34,319
the town's policy is and has been um
that we would not subordinate if it's a

544
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:38,000
cash out refinance.
>> You said for the volunteers,

545
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:42,079
» Joy, can you
>> I just want to clarify for the

546
00:43:39,359 --> 00:43:47,040
volunteers, it's you're earning 10%
every year. So if the cash out refi is

547
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:50,960
at the fifth year, right, that 50% of
it's not repaid just to be clear.

548
00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:56,800
» Exactly right. Yeah, Joyy's right. So So
it's the balance of whatever. So So what

549
00:43:53,440 --> 00:44:01,520
whatever term that they have qualified
under the LOAP program. So say that's

550
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:07,839
three years, 5 years, seven years,
whatever that may be. If they stop

551
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:10,000
volunteering, they pay back whatever the
balance of the loan is.

552
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:14,480
» Okay.
>> Okay. And also they have to make the

553
00:44:11,839 --> 00:44:17,520
point that when they volunte
>> correct. Yep.

554
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,880
» I would just say
>> that.

555
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:26,480
» And I would just say that the I that
alone is such an incentive to our uh you

556
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:30,880
know first responder agencies to not
only retain folks but also recruit. I

557
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:37,119
mean I think that one of the biggest
issues that that many of them are are

558
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:41,680
facing is actually being able to have um
folks that they could rely on. uh

559
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:45,599
throughout the remainder of the the year
and forthcoming years. I mean, I think

560
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:50,319
that's a it's there's a lot of our
agencies that are are are very worried

561
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:52,400
about the future. So, and I think we
have um

562
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:56,400
» Exactly. And that's why I kind of
thought long and hard about this

563
00:44:54,079 --> 00:45:01,280
program, right? Because we can't do a
preference. We can't, you know, uh a

564
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:05,599
preference would violate federal fair
housing laws or could violate federal

565
00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:12,240
fair housing laws, I should say. And so,
but how do we how do we incentivize so

566
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:17,119
that we have, you know, we get these
first responders that, you know, that

567
00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:21,280
that have the ability to do the work.
How do we keep them? And, you know, you

568
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:25,440
you look at the chart and it's a
significant amount of funding each year.

569
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:33,359
So, like just for example, if you look
at that 750,000 purchase price, the CHF

570
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:38,000
assistance under at 18% is $135,000.
Now, if we're offering to somebody who's

571
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:43,760
a first responder 10% off each year,
that's $13,500

572
00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:48,319
each year that they uh volunteer and
help the community and earn that LOSAP

573
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:52,800
credit. That's a significant amount. And
I think, you know, that is an amount

574
00:45:50,079 --> 00:45:56,640
that should incentivize, you know, our
first responders.

575
00:45:53,839 --> 00:46:00,720
» As we went through this, I think, as you
said, we didn't look at it as a

576
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:03,280
preference, but we looked at it. It's an
opportunity,

577
00:46:01,839 --> 00:46:08,560
» right? That's what it is.
>> It is. And it's because that first

578
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:14,079
responder doesn't get the right to get
DPALL. You know, they have to apply for

579
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:19,040
DPALL like anyone else,
>> right? And whether they're a first

580
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:24,640
responder now currently or they become a
first responder later on, you know, it

581
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:28,720
it doesn't matter. Um it's just the only
thing that uh is that if they are

582
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:33,119
currently a first responder, they don't
get credit for the years that they

583
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:37,599
served prior to receipt of the DEPAL.
>> And to Bill's point, what's uh the

584
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:40,960
qualifications that do we get a report
from the agency?

585
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:46,079
» Yes. So they have to earn those points
under the LOAP program. So we would have

586
00:46:43,119 --> 00:46:50,960
to have proof of that like any um you
know any other agency. You know,

587
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:54,160
» our controller handles the LOAP program.
So it's all in our it's all in our

588
00:46:53,359 --> 00:46:57,599
records anyway.
>> Yeah. And how how are you defining first

589
00:46:56,400 --> 00:47:02,880
responders?
>> So anybody who qualifies for LOSAP

590
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,240
credit would be considered a first
respond

591
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:07,240
» by ambulance.
>> Yep.

592
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:12,800
» Thank you, Cara.
>> Oh, Carara,

593
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:16,960
» sorry. which is which is another reason
why as I was having this conversation

594
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:20,640
with Jimmy Mack and Rescue needs to be
an accredited agency that qualifies for

595
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:24,240
LOSAP in order to get a lot of these
things otherwise they don't qualify for

596
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:29,520
any of it. So
>> So in I noticed in in the um the

597
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:34,560
amendment to the community housing fund
project plan you've taken out the 3% but

598
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:39,359
you didn't replace it with 18%. You
you've made it now so that it's up to

599
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:45,280
the board to pass a resolution to change
that percentage. Yes. So I initially we

600
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:51,920
started off with that 3% and it was
written in the project plan as that 3%.

601
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:55,839
Now it we won't have to go through the
whole you know public hearing and wait

602
00:47:53,440 --> 00:48:00,079
the 30 days and and so on you know for
that. It will be up to the board as we

603
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:04,400
see you know fluctuations in the
Southampton housing market to change

604
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:07,040
that down payment assistance by
resolution.

605
00:48:05,359 --> 00:48:10,720
» And what about the $4 million
allocation? Is that annual or is that to

606
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:13,520
be determined each year by the board
also?

607
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:20,079
» So what I would recommend is we if we
add that 4 million to this program. We

608
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:24,480
have about a million left from that 1.25
that the board initially, you know,

609
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:27,599
allocated. Yeah. So we're going to have
about $5 million.

610
00:48:26,319 --> 00:48:31,599
» All right.
>> I would like to see how that goes. My

611
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:36,559
hope is that by the end of the year it's
gone and and then I come to you in

612
00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:42,559
January and say, you know, we've had all
of these I think, you know, we figure

613
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:46,960
it's about 30 to 40 people maybe we can
assist with $5 million depending, you

614
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:51,440
know, on the the home uh the price of
the home. But, you know, hopefully I'll

615
00:48:49,839 --> 00:48:55,760
come back to you in January and say to
you all agreedocate six months,

616
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,880
» right? Can you allocate some more money?
>> Right. come back in six months and we

617
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:03,119
see how we're doing,
>> right? But, you know, until that runs

618
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:08,160
out, you know, I won't be asking you
for, you know, any more money.

619
00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:10,400
» So, the resolution says up to 18%. So,
how is that determined? And who

620
00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:16,720
determines?
>> So, I I'm asking you to um to set it at

621
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:21,119
18% at this point in time.
>> It doesn't say up to in the resolution.

622
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:25,520
Yeah, I'm going to when when I prepare
the authorizing resolution, if if

623
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:31,440
that's, you know, way we're going to go,
I would put 18%. And the reason why it's

624
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:38,480
18% is currently we ask the buyer to
come in with 2% of their own funds. So

625
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:44,079
now that's 20%. When you have 20% equity
in a home, the banks usually don't

626
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:48,960
require private mortgage insurance. And
if you look at the chart here,

627
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:56,240
you can see private mortgage insurance
under a $750,000 home is almost $500 a

628
00:49:52,800 --> 00:50:00,720
month. And under a $950,000 home, it's
$630 a month.

629
00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:04,800
» But the resolution says up to So are you
going to change that before we adopt it?

630
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:08,160
» So So I don't have a authorizing
resolution for you here today, but when

631
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:10,960
I prepare the
>> at the public hearing.

632
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:16,000
» Yeah. When I prepare the authorizing
resolution, I would like you to um you

633
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:19,920
know to authorize 18%. Okay.
>> Cara, the only question I have is have

634
00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:24,400
we run this by any bank institutions?
Because my question is when you're going

635
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:27,920
and you're not going to have the private
mortgage insurance, technically you have

636
00:50:26,319 --> 00:50:32,640
two loans on the property even though
one is silent, it's still a loan for

637
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:37,200
18%. Will they qualify? Because if you
don't have that equity, it's not yours.

638
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:42,000
» Yeah. So banks usually when they when
they uh take down payment assistance

639
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:45,760
whether it's New York State down payment
assistance, county down payment

640
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:51,680
assistance or even our down payment
assistance, they consider that equity

641
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:56,480
and so they the bank is only lending the
80% loan to value and so they would not

642
00:50:54,880 --> 00:51:00,880
require the the private mortgage
insurance.

643
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:05,280
And we also, I think, talked about if
you're fortunate enough to get a gift

644
00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:09,359
from your parents or relatives, that
doesn't hurt their application in terms

645
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:14,160
of of getting,
>> right? If a if a family member uh or you

646
00:51:12,079 --> 00:51:20,480
know, their parents are coming in and
gifting that 2%, usually the banks will

647
00:51:17,839 --> 00:51:24,880
want a gift letter that says that it's
not being required to be paid back. it

648
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:31,200
is a gift from the family member, you
know, um and and and that that can

649
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:38,240
happen because that is then essentially
their money, their 2%. Okay.

650
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:42,559
» Uh the um as much as we might want to
have it available only to town

651
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:46,319
residents, that's not an option.
Correct.

652
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:50,319
» No. Um the the program, the way the
program is structured is they have to be

653
00:51:48,319 --> 00:51:55,280
buying a home in the town of
Southampton. So when they buy their home

654
00:51:53,359 --> 00:51:59,680
in town of Southampton, they are a town
of Southampton resident and it does have

655
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:02,160
to be their primary residence. So
>> it's part of the application process

656
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:05,200
requires them to be a resident.
>> I mean, and that's to that end, we do

657
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:08,079
have a lot of town residents who are
lifelong town residents who are no

658
00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:10,240
longer town residents because they would
like to be, but they can't afford to

659
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,559
live here. So,
>> Correct. Right.

660
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:16,720
» Most people are going to be wanting to
get back to family and jobs

661
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:19,920
» all the time. I hear that. Yep. and
we'll have a lot of young volunteer

662
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:22,800
first responders who are seeking to live
here apply for this program and live

663
00:52:21,839 --> 00:52:24,559
here.
>> That's our hope.

664
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:29,200
» Yeah.
>> So, I'm just last thing that concerns me

665
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:34,559
a little is that not we don't have a cap
on the amount and you could have

666
00:52:31,359 --> 00:52:39,040
somebody buying a $2 million home
because they saved up some money or

667
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:43,440
they've gotten gifts from their parents.
And I don't know, it just seems like I

668
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:48,400
know you're saying they couldn't afford
it if they didn't have the income, but

669
00:52:45,839 --> 00:52:51,119
wouldn't it be cleaner if we did put
some kind of a cap on

670
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:56,000
» home price is capped, right?
>> So, yeah. So, under the under um town

671
00:52:53,599 --> 00:53:03,440
law 64K
it uh it both the income of the

672
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:09,839
applicants and the home purchase price
is capped under 64K. It's capped very

673
00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:16,480
high. It's one and a half times the Sony
May first-time home buyer limit, which

674
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:23,280
is right now $1.9 million. However,
under the income caps, they they could

675
00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:30,640
never sustain a $1.9 million house.
Also, when we uh when CDLI is doing the

676
00:53:27,839 --> 00:53:34,079
income check and all of the uh checks
that they do to tell us who's

677
00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:39,200
qualificate who's qualified to purchase
the home, there is a limitation on their

678
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:43,760
assets and I believe it's 25%. Gwen,
>> there is and can I just add to that

679
00:53:41,839 --> 00:53:46,960
important piece is that also as Cara was
explaining which I failed to. So, thank

680
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:51,119
you in terms of sort of the home
ownership orientation and the counseling

681
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:54,079
that we do. One of the key pieces is
really taking a look at the debt to

682
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:58,800
income, right? And as I was mentioning,
our team as HUD certified counselors um

683
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:02,800
that have, you know, full objectivity,
we need to make sure that the income can

684
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:07,280
sustain the mortgage. So, we would never
even be referring anyone to CARA for

685
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:10,400
consideration if their debt to income
wasn't in a place that it was

686
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:13,760
sustainable and they were able to cover
that mortgage cost going forward, which

687
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:18,640
means they would more than likely based
on the income caps never get to the 1.9

688
00:54:16,240 --> 00:54:21,440
that um the current sale price is capped
at. Now,

689
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:26,079
» I just thought just for the sake of
transparency and so people know not to

690
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:30,400
bother even to apply, you know,
shouldn't we put some numbers in here

691
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,400
» in you're talking about in the project
plan?

692
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,400
» Yeah. Or Yeah.
>> In the materials that we

693
00:54:33,599 --> 00:54:41,680
» in the
>> So, so it's already in town law 64K, the

694
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:44,160
income level and the purchase price.
>> The purchase price of 1.9 million, you

695
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:49,119
said.
>> So, so it doesn't say 1.9 million. says

696
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:53,119
one and a half times the Sony may limit
for first-time home buyers because that

697
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:59,440
changes every year, right? Same thing
with the income levels. It's one, you

698
00:54:55,760 --> 00:55:04,559
know, it's the income max for one to two
people and three or more, a household of

699
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:09,760
three or more. So, and those do change
annually. They Sony may comes out. What

700
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:19,520
you may want, and I can certainly do
this, um, Maria, is add into um the u

701
00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:24,240
the project plan the 25%
uh equity cap, you know. So, in other

702
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:30,000
words, a a family member can't give
somebody, you know, 50% of the value of

703
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:33,520
the home and then they come and they're
asking for down payment assistance. And

704
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:37,520
the reason why we have that cap is
because we want to make sure that it

705
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,839
goes to the people who actually really
need it.

706
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,559
» Yeah. Where that is already in there,
the 25%.

707
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:46,640
» No, I can put that in there. It's it's
something that we've been working with

708
00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:51,760
CDLI. CDLI is doing all the
qualification for us and that is the cap

709
00:55:48,799 --> 00:55:54,240
that they have for us. Um, but if you
would like to see it in the project

710
00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:57,760
plan, I could certainly put that. What
one thing I would like is when you put

711
00:55:55,599 --> 00:56:03,440
out the actual pamphlets or information
about the program and that you put in

712
00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:06,960
the income and house price limitations
so that people aren't

713
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:10,720
» entertaining a pipe dream because it's
just not feasible. So, but yeah, but I

714
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:14,960
mean I I understand not putting it in
the resolution because it changes, but

715
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:17,680
putting it on any kind of material that
we put out would be

716
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:24,240
» Yeah. Well, like we're promoting now
this this um in-person uh home buyer

717
00:56:21,359 --> 00:56:28,400
education course on October 24th in in
Hampton Bay uh center and that will be

718
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:31,599
at 9:00 a.m. Um anybody who's interested
in that can call my office for more

719
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:37,359
information, but we will be promoting
that shortly. But on all of that

720
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:42,960
material, we do put the current maximum
income amounts and we put the current

721
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:45,200
maximum um home price.
>> Great.

722
00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:49,040
» Okay.
>> Thank you. You're welcome.

723
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:54,319
» All right. So, Jimmy Mack is here,
Southampton Volunteer Ambulance and

724
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:57,920
president of our trustees.
>> Thank you. You all know me as president

725
00:56:55,839 --> 00:57:02,559
of the Southampton Town Trustees, my
esteemed colleagues. But I am here

726
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:06,559
actually as an EMT, a volunteer EMT, and
as an officer with the Southampton

727
00:57:04,319 --> 00:57:11,520
Volunteer Ambulance and in support of
this incredible bill because um I want

728
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:15,760
to put a face on the crisis that you
guys are looking at. Uh, and I'm going

729
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:21,440
to become the crisis if if we keep
going. What I've seen in my 21 years at

730
00:57:18,319 --> 00:57:25,760
Southampton Volunteer Ambulance is we
train young people to become chiefs, to

731
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:30,160
become drivers, to become EMTs, and and
they do great. They win awards. They're

732
00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:34,400
loving it. And then they look outside of
their parents' basement windows and say,

733
00:57:32,319 --> 00:57:38,319
"I'm going to go buy a house of my own."
And then the next thing we we get is

734
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:43,200
their resignation. They're moving south
and they're gone. And as you all

735
00:57:40,799 --> 00:57:48,000
witnessed when you came to our awards
ceremony for Southampton Voluntary

736
00:57:44,799 --> 00:57:53,119
Ambulance, all of our top responders are
senior citizens. And it's getting to the

737
00:57:50,799 --> 00:57:58,400
point where that's going to become the
crisis they are describing because

738
00:57:55,280 --> 00:58:03,119
people cannot afford to live here. And I
would do anything to see more of this

739
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:08,319
put in place anywhere we can. Affordable
housing. This is a fantastic idea. These

740
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:14,559
are are are great examples, but you
know, this is still the the cheap end of

741
00:58:10,079 --> 00:58:20,319
what's available out here. So, um it
it's, you know, recently I was I I

742
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:24,079
turned my EMT certification ends next
year and I'm thinking, h do I really

743
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:27,280
want to do it? I'm turning 70. You know,
at that point, I should be the one

744
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:32,160
making the call, not the one showing up
for the call. You know, I went on a call

745
00:58:29,599 --> 00:58:36,480
the other day and it was a a failure to
thrive call and which means sort of

746
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:41,760
usually you see that at the end of the
life and they're just despondent and

747
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:46,000
falling apart and look pretty bad. And
as we were leaving I said to my em uh

748
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:52,480
the paramedic I was with I said um did
you get their age? And he said 70. I

749
00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:55,839
said oh ouch I got six months before
that. I know I'm not going to be one of

750
00:58:54,160 --> 00:59:01,280
the failure to thrives and I probably
will reertify because we don't have a

751
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:06,880
mechanism in place currently to keep
these young people at the ambulances and

752
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:10,880
we and this is a great first step. So,
thank you for considering this.

753
00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:15,520
» Thank you for coming to speak on it,
Jimmy. All right. Um Kevin, is there

754
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:18,520
anyone on Zoom for the second public
hearing?

755
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:28,960
I I have no hands.
>> All right. Well, um, anybody any other

756
00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:32,400
questions from the board?
>> I just want to say I'm really happy that

757
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:37,040
we're all on the same page and that
we're moving forward. Um, it's a it's a

758
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:41,359
great step we're taking collectively.
>> Yes. Very excited.

759
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:44,799
» Right. Then, um, Garrett,
>> so my recommendation would be to close

760
00:59:43,119 --> 00:59:47,280
the public hearing, please. And I would
like to submit a resolution for adoption

761
00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:50,240
at your next meeting,
>> please. Yes.

762
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:52,160
» So much move to close the public
hearing. Second.

763
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:55,359
» All in favor?
>> I. Thanks again, Carara.

764
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:58,640
» Joy.
>> Cara will be on the 24th.

765
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,000
» Yeah.
>> Yeah.

766
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,440
» Uh,
>> thank you.

767
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,280
» All right. Thanks.
>> Thank you.

768
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:07,280
» So, madam clerk, would you please read
the notice for the third public hearing?

769
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:12,319
» Public hearing number three to consider
water quality improvement projects for

770
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:18,079
uh requested by the town of Southampton
land management department for Hampton

771
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:22,400
Bay Sewer System Design Engineering. Uh
good afternoon, madam supervisor and

772
01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:26,480
town council members. Uh Jackie Fenland
again, uh community preservation

773
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:32,160
director for the town of Southampton. Uh
these were um presented to you at the

774
01:00:29,359 --> 01:00:36,559
August 25th public hearing. Um so we did
receive comments uh but I believe there

775
01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:42,480
was a noticing error. So these are onen
today. Um so just to summarize these

776
01:00:39,359 --> 01:00:47,040
were um consideration for the H the town
of Southampton Land Management Hampton

777
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:52,559
Bay sewer system design. Uh so that is
for $300,000 for the report geotechnical

778
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:56,480
investigation meetings and public
engagement tasks and on call engineering

779
01:00:54,720 --> 01:01:01,040
services to implement a sewer district
in Hampton Bay with the primary purpose

780
01:00:59,119 --> 01:01:04,960
of treating the existing effluent
generated by on-site wastewater

781
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:08,160
treatment uh which currently serve the
downtown area and will remove the source

782
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:11,040
of nitrogen and other pollutants
presently discharged from these

783
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:16,720
properties into groundwater that
eventually discharges into our surface

784
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:22,160
waters. um not limited to but mostly
Shinikok Bay and Tyiana Bay due to the

785
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:25,440
local Hampton Bay's business district.
Um so this is just a continuation of

786
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:29,040
that hearing
>> because what we have already is just a

787
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:35,680
conceptual
you know placement and um this money

788
01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:40,160
will allow us to hire a firm to do a
design. Where will it be placed? Where

789
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:43,440
will the leeching fields be? So it's
this is just the next step in the

790
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:46,880
process. Correct.
>> Correct.

791
01:01:44,319 --> 01:01:53,559
» Okay. All right. Well, I do have some
cards on this. The first is Michael

792
01:01:50,559 --> 01:01:53,559
Hillbrand.

793
01:01:59,839 --> 01:02:06,799
Good afternoon. Thank you for the
opportunity to speak. My name is Michael

794
01:02:03,839 --> 01:02:11,599
Hillbr Bays. The proposal to spend
300,000 of community preservation funds

795
01:02:09,119 --> 01:02:17,200
on a Hampton Bay sewer district design
runs contrary to the foundation of CPF

796
01:02:14,079 --> 01:02:21,599
fund fosters growth which is prohibited
and proposes to construct a sewer plant

797
01:02:19,359 --> 01:02:25,280
in a protected area of the pine barons.
Treated waste water containing 10 times

798
01:02:23,839 --> 01:02:29,839
the pollutants of the ambient
groundwater will be discharged into a

799
01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:35,599
deep flow aquifer. This area will not
experience any benefits from this plant.

800
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:39,280
CPF rules state that preservation of
comm community community character shall

801
01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:43,359
include the protection and improvement
of the quality of all water bodies. The

802
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:47,839
water quality of the Flanders Bay
wershed will be diminished. This is not

803
01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:51,200
a water quality project. The
construction of a sewer plant in the

804
01:02:49,359 --> 01:02:55,920
aquifer protection district and the
destruction of this critical resource

805
01:02:52,880 --> 01:03:01,760
area, the Pine Barons, vi violates state
law, town law, county regulations, and

806
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:06,400
the intent of every regional plan, which
specifically calls for the preservation

807
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:10,799
of this particular property for open
space and natural recharge. There is no

808
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:15,359
regional master plan that suggests that
this area is appropriate for a sewer

809
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:20,000
plant. Sewage from the business district
will be pumped uphill 24/7 at great

810
01:03:17,839 --> 01:03:25,039
expense across the groundwater divide
into the pine baronss violating mandates

811
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:29,599
which prohibit the discharge of sewage
originating outside and downgradient of

812
01:03:27,359 --> 01:03:33,680
the pine baronss. There are better and
less expensive alternatives. Every

813
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:38,720
environmental planner is taught that
sewage should never be introduced into

814
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:43,280
deep flow ac
contamination risk to the groundwater

815
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:47,599
posed by potential leaks, spills, or
system overflows. Deep water can take

816
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:51,839
hundreds or thousands of years to
naturally refill and renew. Once

817
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:56,160
pollutants like industrial chemicals,
heavy metals, or nitrates reach deep

818
01:03:53,839 --> 01:04:00,240
zones, cleanup takes decades or proves
impossible. This project does not

819
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:05,119
qualify for CPF funds because it
accommodates and promotes significant

820
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:08,400
growth growth. At a minimum, the size of
the town will be doubled and is likely

821
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:13,520
that growth will be much greater than
that. CPF rules state that the town

822
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:18,480
board shall not certified projects which
accommodates new or additional growth.

823
01:04:16,079 --> 01:04:23,119
The law is clear. The board cannot use
semantics to get around this. The public

824
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:28,160
voted for and believe that CPF funds are
for per for preservation. I did. It is

825
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:32,799
perverse to think that the use of these
f same funds is proposed to destroy

826
01:04:30,319 --> 01:04:38,160
acres of an ancient protected forest and
to defile a pristine aquifer to provide

827
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:41,920
free infrastructure to enable developers
to build giant apartment complexes and

828
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:46,720
» 30 seconds
>> at the pro at and profit at the expense

829
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:50,240
of the taxpayer. The resulting
bottleneck

830
01:04:48,319 --> 01:04:54,160
traffic will make it miserable for all
residents of Hampton Bays and in fact

831
01:04:52,559 --> 01:04:58,319
for most of the residents of the South
Fork except for those with private

832
01:04:56,079 --> 01:05:03,799
private planes and helicopters. Thank
you.

833
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:03,799
» Thank you Rosa Hillibbrand.

834
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:15,119
» Good afternoon. My name is Rosa
Hillibbrand of Hampton Bay. We're the

835
01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:18,720
closest neighbors to the proposed sewage
treatment sewage treatment plant, but

836
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:23,440
we're not the only neighbors. There are
over 20 other homes near the proposed

837
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:28,240
plant and over 100 homes in northern
Hampton Bays which are impacted by this

838
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:32,799
plant. I would like to read a portion of
a letter protesting the location of the

839
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:37,359
Hampton Bay STP that was recently
written by Suffach County Legislator

840
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:42,240
Steven Angelbright and sent to the Pine
Barons Commission. Legislator

841
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:46,640
Angelbright states, "The proposed
project apparently would require both

842
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:51,200
extensive vegetative removal and
installation of a pressure man to pump

843
01:05:49,359 --> 01:05:56,000
untreated waste water into the pine
baronss within a deep flow recharge

844
01:05:53,440 --> 01:06:01,200
area. This proposed project would
violate completely the legislative

845
01:05:58,079 --> 01:06:05,039
intent of article 57. It would also
establish a terrible precedent that

846
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:09,599
would inevitably lead to other
profoundly inappropriate proposals

847
01:06:07,119 --> 01:06:14,000
throughout the Pine Barons region.
Importing liquid waste into the Pine

848
01:06:11,839 --> 01:06:18,400
Baronss for treatment and discharge
there would impose all of the

849
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:23,039
uncertainties of potential mechanical
and chemical failures that are part of

850
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:28,480
every operational sewage treatment plant
system. Such unpredictability is

851
01:06:26,079 --> 01:06:33,200
precisely opposite the legislative
intent of article 57, which is to

852
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:38,000
preserve the Pine Barons as the
westernmost part of the Pakconic Bay

853
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:43,760
Maritime Reserve and to formally
recognize in the law hydro hydraulic

854
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:47,839
hydraologic and ecologic connection
between this ancient pine forest and the

855
01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:52,640
nationally significant estuary that it
sends fresh groundwater into. The

856
01:06:50,319 --> 01:06:56,240
subject proposal is not only contrary to
the Pine Barons Preservation Act, it

857
01:06:54,400 --> 01:07:00,960
would also defile the Picconic Bay
National Estuary with nitrogen infused

858
01:06:58,559 --> 01:07:05,760
treated wastewater. As a prime sponsor
of the Pine Barons Preservation Act, I

859
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:09,920
wish to clarify that this proposal to
create massive engineered infrastructure

860
01:07:08,079 --> 01:07:13,760
for wastewater in the central pine
barons would permanently downgrade the

861
01:07:11,839 --> 01:07:17,839
groundwater and compromise the
ecological function of the Pine Barons

862
01:07:15,839 --> 01:07:21,680
and directly contradict the primary
goals of the important New York state

863
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:27,280
law that this commission was created to
oversee implementation of. is important

864
01:07:24,319 --> 01:07:31,280
to add that I was also an original prime
sponsor of the community preservation

865
01:07:29,119 --> 01:07:36,240
fund and another another New York state
law. The CPF was implemented subject to

866
01:07:34,079 --> 01:07:41,200
a voter referendum within each of the
five east coast east and towns. The

867
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:45,599
purpose of this 2% real estate transfer
tax was to protect community character

868
01:07:43,599 --> 01:07:50,319
by preserving through purchase open
space, woodlands, parklands, and

869
01:07:47,599 --> 01:07:54,480
historic sites. The 31 acre parcel that
is proposed to be used for a new sewage

870
01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:58,880
treatment facility so that the nearby
business district in Hampton Bays can

871
01:07:56,559 --> 01:08:03,200
essentially be doubled in size is not
consistent with the legislative intent

872
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:07,280
of the TPF law that I co-sponsored which
was in part intended to complement the

873
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:10,720
earlier Pine Barons Reservation Act by
providing a revenue source to enable

874
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:14,799
purchase of important Pine Barons
properties. Unfortunately, this proposed

875
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:18,640
plan to create a new sewer system in the
Flanders Bay area would not only violate

876
01:08:16,799 --> 01:08:23,600
the Pine Baron Preservation Act, it
would also cause an important largely

877
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:27,359
unspoiled 31 acre Pine Barons property
that is ideal for purchase and

878
01:08:25,199 --> 01:08:30,960
preservation under the CPF to be
ecologically damaged and permanently

879
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:34,799
lost for the open space purposes that
underly both of these New York State

880
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:41,759
laws. I urge the board to read the
letter in its entirety and vote no.

881
01:08:37,839 --> 01:08:45,080
» Thank you. I have a copy of the letter.
Thank you,

882
01:08:46,159 --> 01:08:52,520
Jack. I have a few questions for you. We
have more speakers.

883
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:55,600
» More speakers.
>> One more.

884
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:58,600
» Go ahead.
>> GMardi.

885
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:11,279
Thank you for your time. I oppose this
proposal because the facts and law do

886
01:09:08,799 --> 01:09:17,040
not support the use of CPF monies for
any component of the CPF project because

887
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:22,400
the primary purpose is to provide for
residential growth even given the fact

888
01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:27,600
that there is a water quality component
to treat existing waste water in the

889
01:09:25,359 --> 01:09:32,960
commercial court of the Hampton Bays.
You are proposing to solve one problem

890
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:38,080
by creating another problem potentially
contam contaminating the aquifer and

891
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:43,359
surrounding waterways. And you can't
split the baby by saying a portion of

892
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:47,199
the pro project is treating existing
waste water and then a portion of the

893
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:52,719
project is for growth. And just because
you have um

894
01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:57,840
misapplied the law in the past and
potentially misused funds in the past

895
01:09:55,360 --> 01:10:03,760
does not give you a pass to do it again.
The STP project appears nothing more

896
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:09,679
than an endgame and an end run around
the rejected STP at 30 Cemetery Road

897
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:13,920
that was proposed to provide capacity
for new residential growth in downtown

898
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:18,719
Hampton Bays. At the February public
hearing, Sue Smith asked this town board

899
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:23,840
to provide her with the information as
to the origin of the STP to service

900
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:28,320
downtown Hampton Bays. No one responded.
I checked with Sue this weekend. There

901
01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:34,159
was no STP in the Hampton Bay Corridor
strategic plan and first appeared in the

902
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:39,600
enulled HBD to support the residential
development in downtown Hampton Bay. I

903
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:44,960
reiterate this is just a substitute and
an end run for the STP at the Thor

904
01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:48,719
Cemetery Road to provide for residential
growth. There is no updated

905
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:53,520
comprehensive plan for the building in
the Montalk Highway. There is no

906
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:58,640
requisite um
cumulative secret review. But yet the

907
01:10:55,920 --> 01:11:03,760
town is moving forward and expending
millions of dollars on NTP. The town's

908
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:09,840
push for residential growth in Hampton
Bays is not only irrational as there is

909
01:11:06,719 --> 01:11:14,960
no basis in fact law but it is literally
unnatural. I personally do not believe

910
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:19,679
for a minute that town officials did not
know about the Nelson Pope Benvor

911
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:25,679
contract to neutralize the residents of
Hampton states that oppose the HBD. This

912
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:30,320
proposed ST will provide for unlimited
growth and unbridled development since

913
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:36,320
the town does not have an effective land
use process to control development. I

914
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:40,800
owe Supervisor Schneiderman an apology
since I blamed him for all the

915
01:11:38,239 --> 01:11:46,800
irrational land use decisions in general
and specific to downtown Hampton Bay.

916
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:51,760
Now I realize it is SOB standard
operating SOP standard operating

917
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:57,040
procedure. It is institutionalized. It
is systematic. I do not believe I do

918
01:11:54,880 --> 01:12:02,320
believe that eventually the law and
facts will prevail but I doubt that it

919
01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:06,719
will be done at the town level that as I
see you have a resolution on today's

920
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:11,280
board
which is amazing but I guess this will

921
01:12:09,199 --> 01:12:16,480
have to be left to the courts or other
oversight agencies. Sad for everyone

922
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:22,679
involved. Thank you.
>> This is the one from last time. Just

923
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,679
make sure that's

924
01:12:26,719 --> 01:12:31,880
» Hey Jackie, actually I'm going to ask
Janice the question.

925
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:46,880
» Good afternoon.
>> Sharer, town planning and development

926
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:49,840
administrator.
>> I got a question for you. I don't want

927
01:12:48,480 --> 01:12:56,719
to put you on the spot. I know you're
not a engineer or a steep specialist,

928
01:12:54,000 --> 01:13:00,880
but your understanding when it Could you
just run through how the the sewage is

929
01:12:59,440 --> 01:13:03,760
treated?
>> How the sewage is treated?

930
01:13:02,480 --> 01:13:05,520
» Yeah. When it comes out, what's the
final product?

931
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:09,520
» Sure.
>> Because people are saying that we're put

932
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:17,199
putting sludge in the ground.
Um, we would seek to do a probably MBR

933
01:13:13,440 --> 01:13:24,000
system like Riverside, which is extra
filtration. It even filters out um, PAS.

934
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:29,920
Sorry, I ran up the stairs.
And, um, by the time that effluent is

935
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:35,199
tertiary treated, which means it goes
through several filtrations, it comes

936
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:38,719
out less than 10 milligrams per liter,
which is the drinking water standard.

937
01:13:38,239 --> 01:13:41,600
So
>> then it is recharged

938
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:47,360
» okay
>> in groundwater zone three which is a

939
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:53,679
deep recharge area and then by the time
it makes its way to any surface water

940
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:57,600
it's just like any other aquifer water
except decontaminated

941
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:00,560
» excuse me
>> I just want to clear clear that up

942
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:03,120
because people have been saying that
we're pushing sludge in

943
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:06,719
» yeah it sounds like
>> and the and the riverhead I maybe you

944
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:11,840
don't even know this the riverhead
sewage sheet ment plant discharges to

945
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:14,400
the Ponic River. Correct.
>> Yes.

946
01:14:12,239 --> 01:14:19,360
» Which is why when they have this release
of accidental release, it's waste water

947
01:14:17,679 --> 01:14:23,760
that's released accidentally without
being treated. Whereas the ones that

948
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:27,840
we're doing are Riverside and this one
also there is no we're not it's not

949
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:32,640
discharging to Picottic. Actually,
Riverside, we were going to do a

950
01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:36,480
constructed wetlands and release the
water discharge to that, but because of

951
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:41,440
the issues with the Riverhead treatment
plant, we decided to basically have

952
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:44,640
everything done on site and be charged
on site.

953
01:14:42,159 --> 01:14:49,760
» That's exactly right. And it really has
to be understood that the water is

954
01:14:47,199 --> 01:14:55,520
treated, the effluent right now is
untreated going straight into the

955
01:14:52,000 --> 01:15:00,320
aquifer. And you would collect it all,
treat it so it's less than 10 milligrams

956
01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:05,440
per liter, and then discharge so it goes
through future even more filtration

957
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:10,159
because that's all sand. And then it
travels in the aquifer. Wherever it

958
01:15:08,000 --> 01:15:13,520
goes, groundwater divide or not, it is
clean water going there. And and I just

959
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:18,080
also want to say as we go through this
process as we did with Riverside, we're

960
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:23,280
going to have the actual experts in to
give testimony and explain the the whole

961
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:27,920
this is just this is just the very very
fun the water quality project to we're

962
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:33,840
doing you know which is an eligible
project we're doing um that we are

963
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:40,000
looking at the engineering the hydro
geology the um you know and EFC has a

964
01:15:38,159 --> 01:15:43,520
very specific template that you have to
follow. It's it's extremely advanced and

965
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:47,199
the SRA
>> and also together like we have funding

966
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:51,679
federal and state funding on the
Riverside project. We wouldn't have that

967
01:15:49,199 --> 01:15:55,280
funding if there these systems were a
detriment to the environment.

968
01:15:53,280 --> 01:16:00,080
» No, this is this is a public health
crisis and this is helping uh the

969
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:04,400
groundwater and surface waters.
>> Once we have the actual hydraological

970
01:16:02,159 --> 01:16:06,400
data and the engineer can come in, we
can answer these questions more

971
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:08,880
thoroughly.
>> Right. You would be treating the

972
01:16:07,440 --> 01:16:13,280
business district which is I think
approximately 270 some odd par 277 or

973
01:16:12,719 --> 01:16:16,800
something along
>> which even I mean this board was

974
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:19,360
» 277 what parcels or
>> parcels along that stretch of road

975
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:22,640
» and you have the gallons per day
>> it was said that we shouldn't be doing

976
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:26,239
this in a vacuum in this small little
downtown thing we should be looking

977
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:30,080
comprehensively at the whole corridor
and that's what we set out to do

978
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:33,440
» and it was also overwhelmingly when we
were looking at 30 Cemetery Road and

979
01:16:31,679 --> 01:16:37,360
there was all the push back to that area
it was you know we don't it wasn't the

980
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:40,880
push back wasn't we don't need a sewer.
This the push back was we absolutely

981
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:44,000
need a sewer but we need to look at the
whole area and we need to place it

982
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:48,480
somewhere outside of the business
district which would be and

983
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:53,760
overwhelmingly crazy enough everyone had
suggested up by the transfer station and

984
01:16:51,199 --> 01:16:56,719
that happened to be the where we landed.
So

985
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:59,360
» and this treatment system will be
significantly less clearing than the as

986
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:03,520
of right
>> any as of right development. is not

987
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:06,080
core. This is as of right
>> growth, right? It's

988
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:10,320
» compatible growth. What why it's a
critical resource area is because it's

989
01:17:07,679 --> 01:17:14,560
deep recharge and this is exactly what
that is means. We're recharging the

990
01:17:12,480 --> 01:17:19,040
water back to the aquifer
>> to be pristine and used later.

991
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:23,360
» I just I just want to I just want to uh
confirm what Councilwoman McMah was

992
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:28,000
saying about previous conversations that
we had about this subject. there was

993
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:32,800
push back to previous locations and we
said we were going to look at this more

994
01:17:29,199 --> 01:17:38,000
comprehensively and and here we are. Um
I do want to just however just meditate

995
01:17:35,679 --> 01:17:40,560
briefly on the letter. Did you read the
letter from legislator Angel?

996
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:45,600
» I did.
>> And also we received I think a letter

997
01:17:42,480 --> 01:17:49,520
from the the uh the Pine Baron Society
that said something to the effect of

998
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:53,440
» the society not the commission.
>> Correct. the society um that said

999
01:17:51,840 --> 01:18:00,320
something to the effect that we should
be waiting before we do something act on

1000
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:05,520
this. But but this this particular
resolution, can you just clarify this is

1001
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:10,640
a more preliminary
um evaluation

1002
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:16,000
that is going to allow us
to make more of an informed uh decision

1003
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:19,679
and understanding. This is this is still
very preliminary. Is that correct?

1004
01:18:17,440 --> 01:18:26,080
» Yes. This allows us to now move forward
with an RFP to gain um to you know get

1005
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:31,360
professional services from engineering
hydro geology PE you know like an

1006
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:36,960
engineer that also is a hydro geologist
hydrarology um and

1007
01:18:35,199 --> 01:18:40,800
this is what we do with water qual like
we're looking at the feasibility we're

1008
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:46,400
doing all the analysis so to come in my
humble opinion to prejudge it when you

1009
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:50,880
don't have all the facts is part of the
issue it's just that it you know what

1010
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:53,920
things are intended for you are going to
make a significant difference in water

1011
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:58,400
quality improvement.
>> So I just ask that as the department

1012
01:18:56,320 --> 01:19:05,199
moves forward working with the
consultant that the issues outlined in

1013
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:09,199
uh legislator Anglebright's letter and
the Pine Baron's letter be looked at.

1014
01:19:07,440 --> 01:19:13,760
» Sure. because you it's your job to weigh
out all those things economic,

1015
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:18,000
environmental, social, those things all
play into each other and weigh it all

1016
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:22,400
out, all the relevant facts and make a
decision. So, you're very far away from

1017
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:26,480
a decision yet, but you are committing
some water quality money to get those

1018
01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:29,040
relevant facts to be able to make those
decisions. Correct.

1019
01:19:27,199 --> 01:19:33,600
» And as you pointed out, it's not a
concentrated small area. This is going

1020
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:37,520
to cover the corridor from I think it's
East Tayana to Old Riverhead Road.

1021
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:40,719
That's right.
So, how many gallons per day is that

1022
01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:44,960
about?
>> Oh, we did the feasibility analysis and

1023
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:50,719
we had like a range.
>> I feel like it was about 200 to 500,000,

1024
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:52,800
but we we're we're going to get drill
down closer on what

1025
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:56,159
» existing. I mean,
>> the very close to 200

1026
01:19:55,280 --> 01:20:00,239
» 200. Yeah,
>> it's like 197,

1027
01:19:58,719 --> 01:20:06,560
» but they make you design, as you know,
to peak flow. So, we have to design it.

1028
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:11,199
» They say that it's just a ruse for you
know unlimited residential growth and

1029
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:16,080
nothing is going to be treating the
>> existing corridor also res

1030
01:20:13,679 --> 01:20:19,600
» this corridor and it's existing flow
that needs to be treated

1031
01:20:17,679 --> 01:20:23,600
» absolutely right now you're going
straight into the aquifer every single

1032
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:31,520
person that every single business that
has a regular sanitary system is each

1033
01:20:27,199 --> 01:20:38,400
one is 65 milligrams per liter roughly
you're going to less than 10 for all of

1034
01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:43,760
So 277,000 let's say it's even 50
milligrams per liter. There's that

1035
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:48,640
number and then there's one number which
is less than 10 for everything. That is

1036
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:52,719
obviously a significant improvement.
>> All right. So we'll just see you know

1037
01:20:50,480 --> 01:20:57,440
what comes of it. you know, as
>> well, you'll be having to do, you know,

1038
01:20:54,480 --> 01:21:00,960
this is a like we go in steps and phases
to understand it all and so everyone

1039
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:05,120
else can understand it all and and make
sure that, you know, everyone is

1040
01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:06,560
informed and on board to the extent that
they can be.

1041
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,640
» Thank you.
>> Thank you very much.

1042
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:13,440
» I'm going to check on the Zoom if
anybody's on Zoom now. Kevin, is anyone

1043
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:16,840
on Zoom for this
public hearing?

1044
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:21,719
» Yes, I have one hand up.

1045
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:48,040
Thank you.

1046
01:21:59,199 --> 01:22:02,760
Hello.
>> What?

1047
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:06,400
» Hear me?
>> Yes.

1048
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:11,440
» Can't see you.
>> Can't see you though.

1049
01:22:08,239 --> 01:22:13,679
» Yeah, I have it in my car right now
>> while I'm driving.

1050
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:15,760
» Shouldn't be driving.
>> Can't you can't weigh in while you're

1051
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:21,120
driving.
>> Not while he's driving.

1052
01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:24,760
If he doesn't look
>> should pull the car over.

1053
01:22:24,800 --> 01:22:29,920
» I just I have it playing through
Bluetooth. That doesn't That's not

1054
01:22:27,679 --> 01:22:33,719
allowed.
>> Got it.

1055
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:33,719
» It's not wise.

1056
01:22:34,480 --> 01:22:41,120
» I I understand that.
>> I just wanted to raise my hand and and

1057
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:44,800
say that I'm
>> Please identify yourself for the record,

1058
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:48,719
sir.
>> James Rogers.

1059
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:48,719
» Thank you.

1060
01:22:48,960 --> 01:22:55,360
I just wanted to raise my hand and and
put on record that I oppose the proposal

1061
01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:59,360
as well for the same reasons Mike and
his wife and everyone else in our

1062
01:22:57,440 --> 01:23:03,840
neighborhood does as well. I live across
the street in that new development that

1063
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:07,600
went up. So, I just wanted to make sure
on record I know I'm not supposed to be

1064
01:23:06,159 --> 01:23:10,000
talking while I'm driving, but I just
wanted to make sure that got out there.

1065
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:13,239
» Okay.
>> Thank you,

1066
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:23,000
» Kevin. Anyone else on Zoom for this
third public hearing?

1067
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:23,000
» Yes. One more person.

1068
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:40,639
» Can you hear me?
>> Yes, we can.

1069
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:45,920
» Thank you. I'll put my video on if that
helps. Um, I approached your

1070
01:23:44,159 --> 01:23:49,440
» Okay. Please identify yourself for the
record.

1071
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:54,000
» Uh, surely. Uh, my name is Edwin
Riiffken, otherwise known as Ned

1072
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:59,440
Riiffken. I live in the same uh
subdivision as I think Mr. Rogers, who

1073
01:23:56,320 --> 01:24:06,960
just spoke, and I appeared before you
some months ago. Um, I have no objection

1074
01:24:02,639 --> 01:24:11,920
to the uh fundamental quest that you're
after, which is to expand the water

1075
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:17,440
treatment. It's the location that
concerns me since I live so nearby and I

1076
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:22,960
just want to register my objection. I
understand and I appreciate uh the

1077
01:24:20,239 --> 01:24:29,120
consideration that you're all giving uh
to this project. Uh on the other hand

1078
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:34,639
anywhere but where you're thinking would
be fine with me as long as it does not

1079
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:39,920
impact our community, our small
subdivision, which I fear it might. So,

1080
01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:44,800
I wanted to just register my objection
formally. Uh, but thank you for your

1081
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:49,440
service to this community and your
careful thought uh that goes into this

1082
01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:54,280
project. That's it.
>> Thank you.

1083
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:54,280
» Sure.

1084
01:24:55,120 --> 01:25:01,679
» All right. So, if there's no other
comments or questions, then I move to

1085
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:05,600
close the public hearing.
>> Second. All in favor?

1086
01:25:03,440 --> 01:25:07,760
» I. Madame clerk, could you please read
the notice for the fourth public

1087
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:13,199
hearing?
>> Of course.

1088
01:25:10,480 --> 01:25:17,440
Public hearing number four to consider
water quality improvement requested by

1089
01:25:15,679 --> 01:25:22,080
the Hampton Bay Water District for
funding wellhead treatment for the

1090
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:28,239
removal of PSFAS
at uh plant number three.

1091
01:25:26,719 --> 01:25:32,880
» Uh good afternoon again, Madam
Supervisor, town council members. Uh

1092
01:25:30,159 --> 01:25:39,520
this is again the uh extension from the
previous public hearing from August 25th

1093
01:25:35,440 --> 01:25:43,920
um for noticing um corrections and this
is the Hampton Bay Water District. They

1094
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:48,639
submitted an application for a water
quality improvement project um that was

1095
01:25:46,159 --> 01:25:54,440
submitted in December of 2025 which is
now seeking um funding in the amount of

1096
01:25:51,440 --> 01:25:54,440
1,736,800

1097
01:25:54,480 --> 01:26:01,040
for phase one of a multi-phase
comprehensive construction contract to

1098
01:25:58,639 --> 01:26:05,760
fund eligible capital costs for plant
number three for POS treatment including

1099
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:09,280
engineering regulatory compliance
treatment equipment construction

1100
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:13,440
insulation and other associated project
components including but not limited to

1101
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:18,080
a granular activated carbon absorption
and treatment system which will treat

1102
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:23,840
the raw water from well number 3-3 and
well number 3-2 for the emerging

1103
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:27,360
contaminants of POS and PFOA and reduce
contaminants down to non-detectable

1104
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:30,600
levels in the town's drinking water from
this site.

1105
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:39,120
» Okay. to reduce it to non-detectable
levels of the POS

1106
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:44,960
and uh
the state changed the language in the

1107
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:50,880
statute to say that any project that
results in the improvement of water

1108
01:26:46,639 --> 01:26:56,400
quality would qualify for community
December of 2024.

1109
01:26:53,280 --> 01:27:02,560
Um it was signed into 64E that it
removed the specific requirements and it

1110
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:06,800
said any um project that will um reduce
or sorry improve water quality or

1111
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:10,800
improve drinking water uh can be funded
by the statute.

1112
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:15,040
So we are looking at this to help serve
Hampton Bay's residents um to give them

1113
01:27:13,199 --> 01:27:18,800
clean drinking water and treat the
emerging contaminants. Um, and we're

1114
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:23,040
trying to do that before the federal
mandates for uh drinking water change

1115
01:27:22,239 --> 01:27:25,520
» by the EPA.
>> Thank you.

1116
01:27:23,440 --> 01:27:28,480
» Yeah. And I believe it was 2027 was when
it was anticipated, but I think there

1117
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:33,360
might have been an extension of that
time frame to 2030. Um, but of course

1118
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:37,199
going, you know, doing the preliminary
engineering and design and looking at

1119
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:41,920
the materials that would be relevant to
treat this um that would give us time to

1120
01:27:39,440 --> 01:27:46,960
comply with those standards. And we did,
this is quite costly, but we were able

1121
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:50,480
to get another three million from the I
believe from the DEEC.

1122
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:56,080
» Yes, I believe you saw other grants.
Yeah, because the original request was

1123
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:59,760
4.7 uh which reduced the request to 1.7
as stated earlier.

1124
01:27:57,520 --> 01:28:03,280
» All right. Thank you. Anybody have a
question at this point for Jackie? Nope.

1125
01:28:02,159 --> 01:28:08,120
» Thank you, Jackie.
>> We do have one card on this. Scalum

1126
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:08,120
party.

1127
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:18,800
» So, it is interesting how this Oh my
gosh. how this piggybacks water quality

1128
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:22,400
and contamination and how it just
happens. Um, but let's put a sewage

1129
01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:25,600
treatment plant.
>> Please identify yourself.

1130
01:28:23,679 --> 01:28:31,120
» Gail Lombardi. Thank you.
>> Hampton Bay. Okay. So, I have more of a

1131
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:35,760
question than a comment. Mr. Kappers
came to the civic association meeting a

1132
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:40,719
couple of months ago. Um, mostly talking
about the meters and a couple things. I

1133
01:28:38,480 --> 01:28:45,360
have no recollection, neither did Neil
have recollection of him talking about

1134
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:50,480
PAS contamination at the Bella's Pond
sites. We're well aware of the

1135
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:54,080
contamination at Ponqu and it exceeded
the amount and that was the whole

1136
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:58,719
brewhaha a couple of years ago and the
10-year master plan and selling the

1137
01:28:55,920 --> 01:29:03,360
water district over to Suffach County.
So, I guess it's more of a question or a

1138
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:08,080
comment. It's a big deal. I mean, I know
it's under the limit right now and in

1139
01:29:05,679 --> 01:29:11,679
your report 2025, you say you're
compliant with all the laws, which I I

1140
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:16,800
suspect you are because it's under the
limit. But when did that happen? What I

1141
01:29:14,639 --> 01:29:20,000
mean online you have all these tests.
It's a little hard to navigate through.

1142
01:29:18,159 --> 01:29:24,159
I don't remember seeing a press release
from our commissioners saying we've now

1143
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:29,520
found contamination of PAS of these
wells. When did that happen? What year?

1144
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:33,360
What month was there a press release? I
didn't see it. I'm not, you know, saying

1145
01:29:31,440 --> 01:29:38,239
you didn't do it. I'm asking you when
did it happen? And was the public

1146
01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:42,719
notified that there's PAS from these
wells? I appreciate all the grants.

1147
01:29:40,560 --> 01:29:47,760
Thank you for all that. Thank you. Thank
him. Thank you guys. But when did it

1148
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:51,520
happen? Does anybody know? You're the
commissioners. Was it this year? Last

1149
01:29:49,440 --> 01:29:54,800
year, five years ago, when was it?
>> Are are you done speaking of? I'll

1150
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:59,920
answer.
>> I'm sorry. Do you have that answer?

1151
01:29:58,159 --> 01:30:02,560
Not to go back and forth, but it doesn't
exceed the limits. And

1152
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:05,840
» I know I said it didn't. I know that.
When did we when was there a test done

1153
01:30:04,639 --> 01:30:10,400
that showed any PE?
>> Because the EPA is lowering the limits

1154
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:14,719
and it's basically
expected to go to non-detect at some

1155
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:18,400
point. We're being proactive
>> in making sure that if we do get to

1156
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:20,560
detectable limits, they are treated
immediately.

1157
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:25,679
» It's not that the levels went up, it's
that the EPA is lowering the levels.

1158
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:31,920
» I understand that. But in the 10-year
master plan, there's, you know, the

1159
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:35,440
report of the you have your your testing
and your testing shows different levels

1160
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:41,920
and it's in the range or under the
range. When was a PAS test done at that

1161
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:44,880
site and showed this minimal range? You
had to have a test done to show this

1162
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:48,960
minimal range.
>> We are assuming that the EPA is going to

1163
01:30:47,440 --> 01:30:53,360
non-detect,
which means we we have to treat even the

1164
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:56,320
barest minimum. I I
>> We're being proactive, Gail, is the

1165
01:30:54,960 --> 01:31:00,560
answer to your question. We're being
proactive to make sure that the Hampton

1166
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:03,760
Bay's residents don't have to get water
with PES in it. That

1167
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:06,639
» You're not answering my question, honey.
I'm sorry. We're not

1168
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:10,000
» Okay, then I I have no answer for you
then. I mean, I I think I think I did

1169
01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:11,920
answer your question and I just didn't
answer it the way that you wanted me to

1170
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:15,360
answer it.
>> When was when was the test done that

1171
01:31:14,159 --> 01:31:20,880
detected that amount?
>> There are tests done all the time. Okay.

1172
01:31:18,159 --> 01:31:24,960
» And the tests never exceeded the limit.
So the test show the how many years has

1173
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:28,159
the test showed this little
>> test has always been done. The test is

1174
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:30,480
we've been testing for PAS since
>> you're saying it showed Pas all these

1175
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:34,560
years.
>> No, I'm not saying that. What I'm saying

1176
01:31:32,480 --> 01:31:38,960
is that the Hampton Bays water district
is being proactive and they are seeing

1177
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:43,840
up up well of this. They are seeing
stuff. It's coming into wells all over

1178
01:31:42,080 --> 01:31:46,880
Long Island. I get all that. This is an
issue.

1179
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:51,120
» I'm just asking a you test every
quarter. What quarter did you

1180
01:31:48,639 --> 01:31:54,639
» We have never exceeded the limits of POS
any of our testing. That's our answer.

1181
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:56,480
» No, you're not answering the question.
Okay.

1182
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:59,199
» You're not answering the question. The
community should

1183
01:31:57,120 --> 01:32:02,000
» They don't have to answer the question
here to listen to you.

1184
01:32:00,239 --> 01:32:02,800
» The answer is we have never exceeded the
limits.

1185
01:32:02,480 --> 01:32:04,880
» Okay.
>> That's the answer.

1186
01:32:03,679 --> 01:32:08,239
» Okay. Maybe if you
>> there was never anything to inform the

1187
01:32:06,639 --> 01:32:12,639
Hampton based community about because we
have never exceeded the limits and all

1188
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:17,360
of our testing is done completely open
and transparently. the people can get as

1189
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:21,920
many of the testing in minutia detail
that they would like to. We are being

1190
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:26,320
proactive to make sure that if and when
the EPA does lower the limits to

1191
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:31,360
non-detect, we are ready and willing and
able because turning down shutting down

1192
01:32:28,480 --> 01:32:35,840
a well would be the worst case scenario.
>> And if there's a miscommunication, Gail,

1193
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:38,560
and why don't you email the question
because I feel like we're not connecting

1194
01:32:38,239 --> 01:32:42,080
to
>> or just call James Kappers. He's more

1195
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:44,480
than willing to have a conversation with
any of our residents.

1196
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:48,239
» And and the EPA standards are a
recommended standard. They're not a than

1197
01:32:46,080 --> 01:32:50,320
not a mandatory standard either. That's
just a recommended standard that's been

1198
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:54,880
lowered.
>> If you email me the question, I'll get

1199
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:59,360
the answer for you. If there's more to
the, you know, you're saying we're not I

1200
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:02,239
know, but she's saying we're not
answering the question. I don't think

1201
01:33:00,719 --> 01:33:06,000
we'reending
the question. So,

1202
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:09,679
» I do apologize too because this was an
adjournment because of the noticing. We

1203
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:13,280
did have experts available at August
25th.

1204
01:33:11,679 --> 01:33:17,040
» So, I just wanted to say like everyone
was here to answer such questions on

1205
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:20,880
August 25th, but I think if you do put
your questions in writing, I said we can

1206
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:24,320
get those answers because I know they're
not at my fingertips right now, but I've

1207
01:33:22,480 --> 01:33:26,719
read through the studies myself with the
application that was submitted in

1208
01:33:26,159 --> 01:33:29,520
December.
>> And he was here at our last

1209
01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:30,639
» Yes. And he was here. Yeah. We have
>> any questions?

1210
01:33:30,159 --> 01:33:35,280
» Exactly.
>> So, really, we'll get you the answers.

1211
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:42,239
Just email the question clearly and
we'll find out. Thanks, Jackie. Yes.

1212
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:45,960
» Um Kevin, is anyone on Zoom for this
fourth public hearing?

1213
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:53,480
» I have no hands.

1214
01:33:56,880 --> 01:33:59,880
» Okay.

1215
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:05,600
» All right then. I'm If there's no other
comments, I move to close the public

1216
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:08,080
hearing.
>> Second. All in favor?

1217
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:12,239
» I.
>> Thank you. U madame clerk, would you

1218
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:14,880
please read the notice for the fifth
public hearing?

1219
01:34:13,199 --> 01:34:20,960
» Public hearing number five to consider
amending town code chapter 298 taxation

1220
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:25,600
to amend article 14 exemption for
members of voluntary fire departments

1221
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:29,520
and ambulance services to authorize an
increased exemption for surviving

1222
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:32,400
spouses of members killed in the line of
duty.

1223
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:35,840
» Thank you, Madam Clerk. Good afternoon,
Madam Supervisor and members of the town

1224
01:34:34,159 --> 01:34:38,719
board. My name is Kathleen Murray,
deputy town attorney.

1225
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:44,400
» Hello.
>> Currently, article 14 of chapter 298

1226
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:49,280
addresses property tax exemptions for
members of voluntary fire departments

1227
01:34:46,480 --> 01:34:54,400
and ambulance services within the town.
In particular, subsection 37 states that

1228
01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:59,280
when an enrolled member of a volunteer
fire company, fire department, or

1229
01:34:56,719 --> 01:35:04,719
volunteer ambulance service is killed in
the line of duty, the deceased member's

1230
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:10,239
unremarried spouse may continue to claim
that real property exemption of 10%.

1231
01:35:08,239 --> 01:35:14,960
Pursuant to recent state legislation,
however, that is chapter 592 of the laws

1232
01:35:13,120 --> 01:35:20,000
of 2025
and in accordance with real property tax

1233
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:26,239
law section 466-A
that exemption may be increased from 10%

1234
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:30,960
to up to 50% of the assessed value of
the primary residence within the town if

1235
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:34,719
the board so chooses. In addition, the
state amendment re removes the

1236
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:38,960
requirement that a spouse cannot be
remarried in order to claim the

1237
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:43,840
exemption by replacing the phrase
unremarried spouse with surviving

1238
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:48,400
spouse. So, this local law implement
implements those two changes pursuant to

1239
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:51,920
the state legislation. If the board is
so inclined, there is a resolution of

1240
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:56,080
adoption on the agenda later today for
your consideration. And in addition,

1241
01:35:54,159 --> 01:36:00,000
your town assesses, Lisa Gory, is here
and available to the extent you have any

1242
01:35:58,000 --> 01:36:03,679
questions. Um, does the board have any
questions for myself?

1243
01:36:02,239 --> 01:36:06,400
» Sorry, could you repeat what you just
said about the non-mar not being

1244
01:36:05,679 --> 01:36:12,719
remarried?
>> Sure. Currently the uh current withdrawn

1245
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:18,880
the legislation used to say in the state
that you um you had to be unremarried in

1246
01:36:16,159 --> 01:36:23,440
order to claim the exemption. So if you
were a widow or a widowerower and you

1247
01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:28,400
got remarried, you lost the exemption.
But the state legislation has changed

1248
01:36:25,440 --> 01:36:32,159
that to just say now surviving spouse.
So a widow or a widowerower gets

1249
01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:35,120
remarried, they can still claim that
exemption.

1250
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:38,480
» So what we're doing is considering
adopting a legislation that mirrors the

1251
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:41,760
state.
>> Exactly.

1252
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:46,880
» In fact, I think that's what we were
waiting on was for the state uh Lisa to

1253
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:50,080
make those changes and these have been
ongoing conversations been going on for

1254
01:36:49,199 --> 01:36:53,520
quite a while.
>> Yes.

1255
01:36:51,840 --> 01:37:00,080
» All right. Tom, did you have something?
>> I um did want to read a letter uh from

1256
01:36:56,719 --> 01:37:06,320
Terry Costuk, who is a surviving spouse,
lives in Eastport uh to to the board. Um

1257
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:11,119
and she was unable to make it today for
uh family reasons. Um but she did submit

1258
01:37:08,639 --> 01:37:16,080
a letter. So I'm reading this on behalf
of Terry Costa.

1259
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:20,960
I am writing to express my support for
the proposed legislation establish

1260
01:37:18,719 --> 01:37:25,760
establishing a tax deduction for
families affected by a line of duty

1261
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:30,639
death. As a widow whose husband Keith
Costik made the ultimate sacrifice while

1262
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:35,199
serving as a volunteer firefighter for
the Eastport Fire Department on

1263
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:39,679
September 21st, 2025.
I understand firsthand the emotional and

1264
01:37:37,520 --> 01:37:45,040
financial toll these tragedies have on
surviving widows and families. When a

1265
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:50,239
fireman or EMS person dies in the line
of duty, the grief is immediate,

1266
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:55,280
overwhelming, and enduring. In addition
to personal loss, surviving spouses are

1267
01:37:53,119 --> 01:38:00,719
suddenly forced to navigate an uncertain
financial future from having two incomes

1268
01:37:58,560 --> 01:38:05,280
going down to one income overnight is
daunting. The long-term reality of

1269
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:10,400
managing a household and maintaining
financial stability alone is a

1270
01:38:07,440 --> 01:38:14,800
frightening challenge. This proposed tax
deduction represents a crucial step

1271
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:19,280
towards easing the heavy burdens carried
by surviving widows and families. By

1272
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:24,719
reducing the property tax, this
legislation acknowledges the ultimate

1273
01:38:21,679 --> 01:38:27,920
sacrifice made by our fallen heroes.
Thank you for your time and your

1274
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:33,440
continued dedication to supporting our
fallen heroes and their survivors.

1275
01:38:30,239 --> 01:38:38,800
Sincerely, Terry El Costic, proud widow
of Keith B. Costic, 41 years of service.

1276
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:43,760
Thank you, Tom.
>> Thanks, Tom.

1277
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:48,480
» I do want to say that this was uh
discussed at the last Southampton Town

1278
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:52,040
Fire Chiefs Association meeting and they
are in full support.

1279
01:38:52,480 --> 01:38:59,199
And I also want to add that these two,
this one and the next one did come up

1280
01:38:56,800 --> 01:39:02,080
when the state passed it. And you know,
I've heard, you know, other

1281
01:39:00,159 --> 01:39:06,960
municipalities pass this right away. We
actually waited only because when the

1282
01:39:04,639 --> 01:39:11,760
state passed it, it wasn't in time for
the last round of tax bills to go out.

1283
01:39:09,760 --> 01:39:19,400
So, we waited and we're doing it now.
So, it will hit the next

1284
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:19,400
» round of 2027, right? Come on up.

1285
01:39:20,960 --> 01:39:25,320
» Trying to say it so you wouldn't have
to. Lisa,

1286
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:33,040
» uh, good afternoon, uh, madame
supervisor, town council members. I do

1287
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:40,080
have one suggestion. However,
it does state that the exemption is from

1288
01:39:36,239 --> 01:39:45,760
10% up to 50% of the assessed value. My
recommendation to the town board is that

1289
01:39:43,280 --> 01:39:50,880
um it is made 50%
so that it is uniform and consistent

1290
01:39:48,239 --> 01:39:55,280
with that of the surviving spouse of a
police officer killed in the

1291
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:57,280
» Yeah, we don't want to exercise
discretion about which

1292
01:39:56,639 --> 01:40:02,560
» Okay. Yeah.
>> Yeah, that's a good point. So, um,

1293
01:40:00,639 --> 01:40:04,480
we'll make sure we make that change that
when we adopt

1294
01:40:03,119 --> 01:40:09,440
» council, we could do that, right? Is
that is that we could just make a change

1295
01:40:06,159 --> 01:40:12,960
here on the floor?
>> You may do it, but you can adopt today.

1296
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:15,119
Yes. Which is fine. I'll recirculate
that change.

1297
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:21,600
» Thank you, Kathy.
>> So, you eliminate the 10% to 50% and

1298
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:21,600
just make it 50%.

1299
01:40:32,639 --> 01:40:40,840
I don't have any cards on this. So,
Kevin, is there anyone on Zoom for this

1300
01:40:37,119 --> 01:40:40,840
fifth public hearing?

1301
01:40:44,960 --> 01:40:51,119
» I have no hands.
All

1302
01:40:48,719 --> 01:40:53,360
right. Then I move to close the public
hearing. Second.

1303
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:57,199
» All in favor? I
>> I. And madam clerk, would you please

1304
01:40:55,119 --> 01:41:00,159
read the notice for the sixth and final
public hearing?

1305
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:05,440
» Public hearing number six to consider
enacting art article 20, exemption for

1306
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:10,880
surviving spouses of police officers
killed in the line of duty of chapter

1307
01:41:08,159 --> 01:41:15,199
298, taxation of the Southampton Town
Cove.

1308
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:19,440
» Good afternoon, members of the board. Uh
somewhat similar to the last public

1309
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:24,639
hearing you just considered, currently
there is no real property tax exemption

1310
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:29,360
extended to the surviving spouse of a
police officer killed in the line of

1311
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:35,199
duty. Recent state legislation, that is
chapter 670 of the laws of 2025

1312
01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:39,280
and New York State Real Property Tax Law
Section 471

1313
01:41:37,199 --> 01:41:44,000
now authorizes an exemption for
surviving spouses of police officers

1314
01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:49,760
killed in a line of duty by reducing the
taxable assessed value of their primary

1315
01:41:46,159 --> 01:41:53,920
residents within the town by up to 50%.
So this local law implements that

1316
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:59,760
enactment and codifies it on a local
level. uh pursuant to that state

1317
01:41:55,920 --> 01:42:04,960
legislation there are um paper there's
conditions um if you look at section

1318
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:08,400
298-60
sub

1319
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:14,800
um I just wanted to note that in order
to establish that eligibility there is

1320
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:18,239
um paperwork that is available by the
division of criminal justice services

1321
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:22,960
and the office of real property tax
services for the town to use in making

1322
01:42:20,560 --> 01:42:28,159
that determination. And one other note,
this will be enacting a new section of

1323
01:42:25,119 --> 01:42:32,800
your town code that is article 20 um
town code section 298-60

1324
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:40,360
because again there currently is no
existing exemption uh to any degree for

1325
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:40,360
that um surviving spouse.

1326
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:48,159
So would you say that the words
>> so you'll see in

1327
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:53,760
» to the extent of is equivalent to up to
so we should table that one also

1328
01:42:50,560 --> 01:43:01,280
» um taxation to the extent of 50%. To the
extent of 50% is 50%. So um

1329
01:42:58,239 --> 01:43:04,560
» this one is 50%. Yeah. Um I misspoke
when I just delivered it. Yeah. When I

1330
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:09,280
just presented it to you I said up to
50% but this one is actually to the

1331
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:13,679
extent of 50%. So you may adopt this one
today um if you're so inclined.

1332
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:18,400
» Wonder why it doesn't say in the amount
of or 50% to the extent of see

1333
01:43:17,440 --> 01:43:23,760
» it's legal jargon.
>> Yeah. This mimics the state legislation.

1334
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:27,520
» All right. Okay. And I just want to say
also this is another one where

1335
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:31,119
immediately once the state passed it PBA
president Eric Brightweiser did reach

1336
01:43:29,040 --> 01:43:35,760
out in full support of this. So we do
have the PBA support office.

1337
01:43:33,199 --> 01:43:38,800
» Great. And thank you Tom for initiating
the review of this.

1338
01:43:37,679 --> 01:43:42,480
» Welld deserved.
>> And we actually had I think two

1339
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:47,440
surviving spouses
that were of officers killed in line who

1340
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:50,400
did did come to a prior town board
meeting passed the state. So

1341
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:52,960
» and I just want to
>> very appreciative

1342
01:43:51,199 --> 01:43:57,360
» and I just want to thank Lisa for your
leadership on this and sitting with the

1343
01:43:54,800 --> 01:44:02,159
the board to help us get this done.
>> Thank you Lisa. I don't have any cards,

1344
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:06,040
but Kevin, is there anyone on Zoom for
the sixth public hearing?

1345
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:16,960
» I have no hands up.
>> All right, then. Um,

1346
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:19,760
I move to close this public hearing.
>> Second.

1347
01:44:17,440 --> 01:44:25,159
» All in favor? I
>> Thank you, Kathleen and Lisa.

1348
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:25,159
» Thank you.

1349
01:44:28,480 --> 01:44:33,840
All right.
Well, that brings us to the public

1350
01:44:31,679 --> 01:44:36,840
portion. Our first speaker is Eileen
McFen.

1351
01:44:36,880 --> 01:44:41,320
You're still here. You stuck it out,
Eileen.

1352
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:53,679
» Happy Tumble Weed Tuesday. Well,
>> oh, that's right.

1353
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:58,960
and advisor and councilman.
Um, I'm a representative today for the

1354
01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:03,040
Hampton Bay Civic Association, Eileen
McFallen.

1355
01:45:00,719 --> 01:45:10,719
We have about 300 members, but we've put
petitions out and uh, as to date, we

1356
01:45:06,000 --> 01:45:15,360
have about um 600 total signatures that
are urging the town council to purchase

1357
01:45:12,719 --> 01:45:20,159
the properties for sale by the Hampton
Bay Fire Department Commission. Uh the

1358
01:45:18,239 --> 01:45:26,800
property connects from Main Street to
Mtok Highway uh on Mtok Highway to um

1359
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:31,440
Goodground Ground Park. Uh there was a
plan made 10 years ago. We'd like you to

1360
01:45:29,440 --> 01:45:38,000
finalize that plan by purchasing that
property. Uh the fire department is

1361
01:45:34,159 --> 01:45:43,679
willing to um sell it for the fair
market value to the town. If the town is

1362
01:45:42,239 --> 01:45:48,639
not going to buy it, they're going to
put it out uh to bid at the beginning of

1363
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:54,960
November
uh for the um proposed amount of about a

1364
01:45:52,960 --> 01:46:00,719
million dollars.
It is very beneficial to Hampton Bay's

1365
01:45:57,920 --> 01:46:07,600
residents that the town purchases this
land over uh letting some developer and

1366
01:46:04,880 --> 01:46:12,560
doing whatever they choose to do. Uh,
and it could be that they'll make a a

1367
01:46:10,480 --> 01:46:17,760
plan to connect from Main Street to the
park. Uh, but maybe they won't and maybe

1368
01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:22,080
they'll use it in some other way or
maybe they won't use it at all. We don't

1369
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:26,320
know what a developer would do, but we
know that the plan was made by the town

1370
01:46:24,639 --> 01:46:31,440
and we would like you to continue with
it, finalize it, and give it a good

1371
01:46:28,639 --> 01:46:36,400
walkway because there is no walkway
other than uh what's closer to Guava,

1372
01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:42,960
which is not a very safe walkway. you
would never use it after dark. Uh it's

1373
01:46:39,119 --> 01:46:48,880
not a good walkway for anybody that has
any disabilities. So, there's a lot you

1374
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:53,440
can do to improve this and just to make
it um a great place for the residents

1375
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:58,560
and that's what they want and we will
present the um petitions as soon as we

1376
01:46:55,760 --> 01:47:04,159
finalized with them.
Uh, you know, in the email that you sent

1377
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:09,840
me, you mentioned that the fire
department contacted the town and gave

1378
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:13,920
the town till September 21st to respond,
but I've asked and nobody seems to be

1379
01:47:12,159 --> 01:47:18,800
aware of any kind of notice like that
coming in.

1380
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:22,400
» Where did you hear that?
>> They spoke to me personally

1381
01:47:20,639 --> 01:47:26,159
» and they told you that they spoke with
or notified us that we had until the

1382
01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:28,719
21st to respond.
>> They were going to.

1383
01:47:27,360 --> 01:47:34,840
» All right. Maybe they didn't send it
yet.

1384
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:34,840
» I don't know what they'd be waiting for.

1385
01:47:35,760 --> 01:47:41,760
» Um, I also wanted to say thank you that
you're putting so many stop signs and

1386
01:47:39,679 --> 01:47:46,719
giving safety to Hampton Bay. That's
much appreciated.

1387
01:47:43,679 --> 01:47:51,040
Um, also, do you have a date or any
information uh that you can share

1388
01:47:49,199 --> 01:47:56,000
regarding the Long Island Railroad
overpass repair on Majuk Highway on the

1389
01:47:54,000 --> 01:48:00,159
next meeting in the fall? Have they
contacted you? You know, it was not

1390
01:47:58,239 --> 01:48:04,320
clear because it seemed like they were
going to have it in October and then I

1391
01:48:02,480 --> 01:48:08,400
thought that legislator Welker said
October 2027.

1392
01:48:06,639 --> 01:48:11,920
So, I'll follow up and find out about
that.

1393
01:48:08,719 --> 01:48:14,880
» Okay. Thank you. And that's all I have
to say. I hope you really truly consider

1394
01:48:13,920 --> 01:48:17,119
this.
>> Thank you.

1395
01:48:15,600 --> 01:48:20,360
» Thank you.
>> Thank you.

1396
01:48:20,560 --> 01:48:25,159
All right. Next speaker is Gail
Lombardi.

1397
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:35,760
Thank you.
>> First, yes, happy tumble we Tuesday, but

1398
01:48:32,960 --> 01:48:42,000
I also want to offer Jim Burke special
condolences for this week. Um, I know

1399
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:46,480
Friday's difficult day. So, um, thank
you, Gail. So, in the June meeting, I

1400
01:48:45,040 --> 01:48:52,000
came and now I'll get to the, you know,
the normal gale, not not the nice gale.

1401
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:57,520
In the June meeting, I straight to ask
council person Aasili for um support for

1402
01:48:55,760 --> 01:49:02,400
the statements that he made that the
community wanted the new parking lot.

1403
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:07,119
Well, I appreciate councilman uh council
person McNamera indicated that she and

1404
01:49:05,199 --> 01:49:12,080
Susan von Freddy wanted it. Well, that's
two people. Um that did not suffice, but

1405
01:49:10,239 --> 01:49:17,360
I was already seated and I didn't want
to create a scene. Council person Isili

1406
01:49:15,520 --> 01:49:23,600
made that statement at a very
contentious civic association meeting

1407
01:49:20,239 --> 01:49:29,360
about the parking lot and I request that
I request that he support his statement

1408
01:49:26,400 --> 01:49:33,520
for those very reasons. For what I see,
not only do town officials make

1409
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:39,119
irrational decisions that they can't
support, they also make a lot of

1410
01:49:35,440 --> 01:49:46,320
statements they can't support.
However, in council person's is defense,

1411
01:49:42,639 --> 01:49:51,920
I did find some um notes about the
parking lot in the 2025

1412
01:49:49,440 --> 01:49:58,080
Hampton Bay uh citizens advisory
committee minutes on the town's website.

1413
01:49:55,440 --> 01:50:03,280
There were no minutes for the or agendas
for 2026, but you take that out with

1414
01:50:00,239 --> 01:50:09,199
you, citizens advisory committee chair.
So that raises another question for

1415
01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:14,800
council person pal and
did you guys throw the HBCA

1416
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:21,040
under the bus about the timing of the
parking lot renovation when there would

1417
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:27,760
when you were in talks with the HBCAC
citizens advisory committee and either

1418
01:50:23,520 --> 01:50:34,560
confused the um acronyms or purposely
wanted to discredit the HBCA the uh

1419
01:50:32,159 --> 01:50:38,560
civic associ association. I'm not
associated with the civic association.

1420
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:43,119
I'm not on the board and I remove
removed myself because I am very vocal

1421
01:50:41,679 --> 01:50:48,560
and I don't know if Eileen's still here,
but she's much nicer than I am and I

1422
01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:54,480
don't want to taint Eileen here. Again,
I owe Supervisor Sniderman an apology. I

1423
01:50:51,760 --> 01:51:00,159
blamed him for purposely tarnishing the
reputation of anyone or any organization

1424
01:50:57,760 --> 01:51:06,080
that questioned the town's plans and
purposely created discord among the

1425
01:51:03,119 --> 01:51:12,480
various community groups in Hampton Bays
so he could um opinion shop to garner

1426
01:51:09,760 --> 01:51:18,480
support for his latest scheme. Now I
realize that this the uh stirring the

1427
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:24,719
pot of discord and discrediting
individuals and organizations is by

1428
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:29,360
design in the town
and you all are better than that. Many

1429
01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:34,400
of you have several years left in office
and I hope you will seriously consider

1430
01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:40,400
your relationship with the entire
community you promise to serve and try

1431
01:51:37,679 --> 01:51:45,000
to bring people together instead of
creating discord. Thank you.

1432
01:51:47,679 --> 01:51:52,360
» Okay. I don't know if you want

1433
01:51:53,920 --> 01:52:01,520
» if you want to.
pretty feel free if you want to.

1434
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:05,520
» Me too.
>> I mean I think there was a

1435
01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:13,280
misunderstanding in what was put out
there that I mean I think what you meant

1436
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:19,040
was that people in the civic were eager
for the parking lot project to be done

1437
01:52:16,239 --> 01:52:21,520
that everybody supported the project.
>> I'm sorry. You going to rebut what I

1438
01:52:21,119 --> 01:52:23,520
say?
>> No, I'm not.

1439
01:52:22,080 --> 01:52:27,280
» No, I'm not rebuting. She's making a
statement. I'm just saying I'm just

1440
01:52:25,360 --> 01:52:30,480
think I wasn't there so I really
shouldn't say

1441
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:34,080
» exactly supervisor with all due respect
you weren't there we had three town

1442
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:40,480
board members there the be the meeting
was very contentious three town board

1443
01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:44,800
members that was my version of watered
down what I want to what I would say so

1444
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:48,960
it would probably be better not to open
the door for things that I really want

1445
01:52:46,719 --> 01:52:52,080
to say that meeting was very contentious
>> all right

1446
01:52:49,440 --> 01:52:55,199
» and I won't say anything I address some
of your com if you could take your seat

1447
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:58,880
and then I'll I'll
>> I would like to stand here.

1448
01:52:57,119 --> 01:53:01,360
» It's not a rebuttal period. This isn't a
debate. It's it's

1449
01:52:59,679 --> 01:53:03,199
» Hey, Jim, can you speak up here?
>> Tell us about

1450
01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:10,560
» She did. That's okay.
>> Okay. So, with all due with all due

1451
01:53:07,280 --> 01:53:15,920
respect, Gail, the the the Hampton Bay
Civic invited us on that day there. They

1452
01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:22,000
specifically had myself and Bill on the
agenda to provide updates to which

1453
01:53:18,880 --> 01:53:26,000
Councilman Pal and I devised slides
publicly with the help of our staff to

1454
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:29,520
and highway department. Highway
department actually showed up to provide

1455
01:53:27,760 --> 01:53:33,280
various updates on quality of life
improvements, a whole host of different

1456
01:53:31,119 --> 01:53:39,840
projects that we've been working on in
Hampton Bay. We provided that. We were

1457
01:53:36,639 --> 01:53:44,480
up there uh and uh Councilman Pel was
accused of being up there campaigning

1458
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:49,679
politically and that's when it sort of
became a little contentious. I I think

1459
01:53:47,599 --> 01:53:53,360
uh Councilman Pel and myself were caught
off guard by that comment because we

1460
01:53:51,360 --> 01:53:58,639
fulfilled a request of the civic to be
there and pre present on the updates

1461
01:53:55,440 --> 01:54:07,199
that that Councilman Pel provided. In
terms of um the request of uh the the

1462
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:12,239
parking lot improvements, we we have
been at almost every CI civic meeting.

1463
01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:17,440
Uh we try to be there. Yeah. We're at
also the CAC meetings and we meet with

1464
01:54:15,119 --> 01:54:22,639
the chamber. There are not just people
in your civic that have come up to us at

1465
01:54:20,480 --> 01:54:27,280
those meetings to ask when are you going
to do the parking lots. We've had

1466
01:54:25,440 --> 01:54:31,040
members of the Hampton Bay community
here at previous town board meetings

1467
01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:36,800
asking what are you going to do to
improve the parking in Hampton Bay? Uh

1468
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:41,679
where where what can you do to create
more parking spaces so people can park?

1469
01:54:39,199 --> 01:54:46,400
Go to the senior center. Go to the
various businesses downtown.

1470
01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:49,920
Councilman Pel has worked very
diligently with the highway department,

1471
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:53,840
working with the board to procure
resources to get some of those projects

1472
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:56,560
underway
and that's that's what I can say to

1473
01:54:56,239 --> 01:55:00,800
that.
>> Yeah, we work we work very hard for

1474
01:54:58,639 --> 01:55:06,159
Hampton Bays and we end up getting
bashed and um it's you know we go to we

1475
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:10,800
don't have to go to those meetings but
we go to because we like Hampton Bays,

1476
01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:14,960
we like the people there and it's it's
very unfortunate. You got a handful of

1477
01:55:12,639 --> 01:55:19,360
people who see a lot of negative things
and and everything we're trying to do

1478
01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:22,960
and you know we're trying to improve it.
I mean I lived in Hampton Bay for a

1479
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:29,199
number of years and that parking lot was
horrible 20 years ago.

1480
01:55:25,440 --> 01:55:34,800
Um it was too tight was laid out wrong
was was just horrible. And

1481
01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:38,800
you know people
walk it up to when I when I was a

1482
01:55:36,639 --> 01:55:43,440
trustee they said you know what do you
think about the park on in Hampton Bay?

1483
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:47,840
I'm working on more parking lot on south
of the railroad tracks which is which

1484
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:52,560
you might not need now but in five years
you're going to need it. Um I'm trying

1485
01:55:50,080 --> 01:55:56,880
to I'm trying to help Hampton Bays and
most of the people realize that. I mean

1486
01:55:55,119 --> 01:56:00,480
that night when I got bashed and Michael
got bashed. I had people on walk out

1487
01:55:59,199 --> 01:56:03,679
said don't listen to them. You're doing
a good job. You don't listen to them.

1488
01:56:02,159 --> 01:56:07,679
You're doing a good job. Don't listen to
those people. You're doing a good job.

1489
01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:13,520
Keep on doing it. Hampton base needs
you. It just makes us feel like, you

1490
01:56:10,960 --> 01:56:19,360
know, we're working extra hard and not
Hamlet because it got it got, you know,

1491
01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:22,880
neglected for a number of years by the
prior board

1492
01:56:21,199 --> 01:56:27,119
» and we're trying to make up for it, you
know, and catch up. I mean, you have but

1493
01:56:26,239 --> 01:56:30,560
you outnumbered
>> and it wasn't and it wasn't myself and

1494
01:56:28,880 --> 01:56:33,520
Susan von Freddy. It was I met with
Susan von Freddy. I was the liazison to

1495
01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:36,560
the Hampton Bay Beautifification
Association. She was the president of

1496
01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:42,159
the organization and met with me on
behalf of the organization. And like as

1497
01:56:39,199 --> 01:56:46,159
I've said previously, I mean the timing
left a lot to be desired, but I don't

1498
01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:50,000
haven't talked to one person yet who
doesn't like the result. I'm I applaud

1499
01:56:48,719 --> 01:56:53,440
you guys for working with the business
owners in the lot to make sure that you

1500
01:56:52,400 --> 01:56:57,280
know things that they needed
accommodated for were done

1501
01:56:55,280 --> 01:57:01,599
» and I think that was the disconnect.
Every the timing was everybody wanted

1502
01:56:59,360 --> 01:57:05,840
the project to happen. It was just the
timing was unfortunate and we do have

1503
01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:09,360
have communicated with the engineering
department to ask them to please let us

1504
01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:13,520
know in advance when things are
progressing because all they know is

1505
01:57:11,280 --> 01:57:19,360
that we want everything done as fast as
possible. So they're trying to do it and

1506
01:57:16,560 --> 01:57:23,280
but you know from now on they're
communicating with us to say we could

1507
01:57:21,679 --> 01:57:26,880
start this now is that all right you
know so that something like the timing

1508
01:57:25,119 --> 01:57:32,400
doesn't happen again or we can give it
more thought contracts the timings in

1509
01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:35,920
when we when we want it to stop before
it just the contract said you know we

1510
01:57:34,800 --> 01:57:39,520
want it right away
>> and and it's not you know it's not like

1511
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:43,199
we did it to Hampton Bays we did it to
ourselves when the restrooms were closed

1512
01:57:41,599 --> 01:57:47,360
here in the middle of the winter. So,
>> exactly. Yeah.

1513
01:57:45,679 --> 01:57:49,840
» It wasn't Hamlet specific.
>> No.

1514
01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:56,599
» Uh, okay. Kevin, is there anyone on Zoom
for a public portion?

1515
01:57:53,119 --> 01:57:56,599
» Yes, there is.

1516
01:58:03,280 --> 01:58:09,000
» I have two hands. I'm bringing the first
person in now.

1517
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:09,000
» Thank you.

1518
01:58:10,480 --> 01:58:15,159
» Oh, God. Nice

1519
01:58:16,560 --> 01:58:22,520
picture.
>> Hi.

1520
01:58:22,560 --> 01:58:28,719
» There we go. Can you hear me now?
>> Yes, we can.

1521
01:58:25,119 --> 01:58:32,080
» Okay. Good afternoon, everybody. Um,
about two years ago,

1522
01:58:30,159 --> 01:58:35,040
» please identify yourself for the record,
Lorraine.

1523
01:58:33,199 --> 01:58:36,880
» I'm sorry. It's Lorraine Pcelio from Bay
View Pines.

1524
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:40,880
» Thank you.
Flanders. Um, recently, well, not

1525
01:58:39,119 --> 01:58:45,199
recently, almost two years ago, we
complained about a commercial sign on

1526
01:58:43,119 --> 01:58:49,760
residential property on the corner of
Birch Avenue and Route 24. It's a Fisher

1527
01:58:48,080 --> 01:58:55,599
property sign. I believe they own the
house there, but the sign is a res is a

1528
01:58:52,880 --> 01:59:02,400
commercial sign sitting on residential
property on the town 4 foot frontage.

1529
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:06,639
And um when we made the formal
complaints through the online system, it

1530
01:59:04,239 --> 01:59:11,840
was closed out. And then we followed up
with our CIC committee. We sat down with

1531
01:59:08,960 --> 01:59:17,520
Ryan Murphy in November of 25 and we
asked again to enforce our laws and

1532
01:59:13,599 --> 01:59:22,639
ticket to sign and put it down. Um this
morning I called Ryan Murphy and I asked

1533
01:59:19,679 --> 01:59:26,800
him the status and uh he said I would
have to foil the information. I asked

1534
01:59:25,199 --> 01:59:32,400
him specifically does that mean you will
not talk to us and provide updates

1535
01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:36,159
regarding um the sign that's illegally
posted? and he said, "You'll have to

1536
01:59:34,480 --> 01:59:38,960
file a foil request." He repeated that
three times. I said, "Can you say yes or

1537
01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:42,800
no that you're not allowed to talk to
me?" And he repeated the foil request

1538
01:59:41,119 --> 01:59:47,280
that I have to put in. I don't
understand why we can't communicate with

1539
01:59:44,880 --> 01:59:54,719
town officials regarding our issues.
This communication is

1540
01:59:50,560 --> 01:59:58,239
not productive. Additionally, the end of
Longneck Boulevard has been having a

1541
01:59:56,480 --> 02:00:01,760
problem for many years. I know you many
of you are aware of it. um and that

1542
02:00:00,239 --> 02:00:06,239
there is a pending project to help with
the flooding situation. However, in the

1543
02:00:04,239 --> 02:00:10,560
past, the highway department has cleaned
and plowed the sand that accumulates at

1544
02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:15,119
the end along Neck Boulevard off the
street, which helps and allows water to

1545
02:00:12,719 --> 02:00:19,520
drain. I have made several complaints to
the highway department as the water is

1546
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:25,599
being trapped on the street level and
there's excess of sand at the end of the

1547
02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:32,320
street. I've complained weekly in March,
April, and was told there's not much

1548
02:00:28,320 --> 02:00:36,560
that they can do and um it's so bad now
that you can drive directly over the

1549
02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:40,239
guardrail. I don't think that's a good
guardrail if you can drive over it

1550
02:00:38,239 --> 02:00:43,760
because of the sand buildup. And as I
said, um the highway department always

1551
02:00:41,840 --> 02:00:48,239
plowed that sand and took it off the
street. And additionally, the standing

1552
02:00:46,320 --> 02:00:54,080
water since we've been having such heavy
rains um it accumulates there more

1553
02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:57,520
regular uh than it has in the past years
besides just the regular flooding that

1554
02:00:55,760 --> 02:01:03,119
comes in from you know extra high tides
and storms. So every big flooding event

1555
02:01:00,560 --> 02:01:08,000
that we have including these rainstorms
we have excessive water sitting on the

1556
02:01:05,119 --> 02:01:12,239
street for weeks at a time also since
March. And so people cannot access the

1557
02:01:10,960 --> 02:01:16,560
beach. They have to walk through
standing water that sometimes has been

1558
02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:21,679
standing there for a week or two weeks,
3 weeks time. I see children playing in

1559
02:01:18,880 --> 02:01:26,239
it. This is not healthy. It's unsanitary
and dangerous. Yet nothing is done

1560
02:01:24,400 --> 02:01:30,159
despite multiple calls to the highway
department.

1561
02:01:27,840 --> 02:01:33,760
Um we think that at least when it lasts
more than two to three days, it should

1562
02:01:31,520 --> 02:01:37,599
be drained or sucked up somehow and put
over into the sand. Please, somebody

1563
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:43,840
reach out to Highway on our behalf
because they just ignore us.

1564
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:48,400
Um the last thing I have is that um you
know I also sit on the CAC for Flanders

1565
02:01:46,080 --> 02:01:52,400
Riverside Northampton. We provided a
list of homes for the vacant buildings

1566
02:01:49,920 --> 02:01:56,560
registry and when we asked Mr. Murphy
the status he said they sent out notices

1567
02:01:54,560 --> 02:02:00,880
to two homes sent out a letter saying
that they're in violation and that

1568
02:01:58,480 --> 02:02:04,800
they're working on. I don't understand
if we give them a list of multiple

1569
02:02:02,800 --> 02:02:09,920
homes. How long does it take to look at
a house to see that it's deteriorating

1570
02:02:07,280 --> 02:02:13,679
and neglected to send out a letter? Why
is only two letters went out? Why didn't

1571
02:02:11,599 --> 02:02:18,320
the letter go out to the whole list of
of um people that we provided to put on

1572
02:02:16,800 --> 02:02:24,960
the registry?
>> Um 30 seconds

1573
02:02:20,800 --> 02:02:28,719
off. And lastly, just one slight comment
must you give us three days notice of

1574
02:02:26,480 --> 02:02:33,280
these meetings with the agenda attached.
You provided notice on Friday of Labor

1575
02:02:31,599 --> 02:02:38,000
Day weekend and the meeting is on
Tuesday. What about three business days?

1576
02:02:35,440 --> 02:02:42,560
Wouldn't that be more helpful to us
trying to read these agendas and and and

1577
02:02:40,480 --> 02:02:45,840
be able to respond properly? Just
consider that in the future. I

1578
02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:49,080
appreciate it. Thank you.
>> Thank you.

1579
02:02:50,639 --> 02:02:56,880
» These get posted on Thursday after the
agenda review. It depends on what we're

1580
02:02:54,639 --> 02:03:00,159
waiting for from the town board as well.
You know,

1581
02:02:58,880 --> 02:03:02,480
» these things were posted on Monday
night.

1582
02:03:00,880 --> 02:03:06,080
» I was the one that brought it back to
Friday so people would have the weekend

1583
02:03:04,239 --> 02:03:12,800
to spend with the agenda in case they
needed to motivate their organizations

1584
02:03:08,639 --> 02:03:17,520
to come out to speak. So, um, Kim works
very hard to try and get it out on

1585
02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:23,280
Thursdays whenever possible to give them
another 24 hours with it. So, but it's

1586
02:03:21,040 --> 02:03:26,880
all timing, you know, with the agendas
and the approvals and the department

1587
02:03:24,639 --> 02:03:28,719
heads and everybody else. So, you know,
doesn't happen.

1588
02:03:27,599 --> 02:03:31,040
» It's a courtesy. It's not
>> it's not magic.

1589
02:03:30,239 --> 02:03:38,280
» It's not mandatory.
>> Kim performs the magic.

1590
02:03:34,080 --> 02:03:38,280
» Okay, Kevin. Is someone else

1591
02:03:39,679 --> 02:03:43,480
» trying to bring them in?

1592
02:03:52,639 --> 02:03:56,760
I got back just in time.

1593
02:04:04,480 --> 02:04:08,159
» Hi.
>> Hi. Can you hear me?

1594
02:04:07,040 --> 02:04:14,320
» Yes, we can.
>> Please identify yourself for the record.

1595
02:04:10,639 --> 02:04:20,480
» Sure. Um, my name is Maria McDaniel and
I have been a taxpaying resident of

1596
02:04:16,560 --> 02:04:25,760
Southampton for approximately 25 years.
I live in North Sea. I am here because I

1597
02:04:23,679 --> 02:04:32,000
have written to both Kristen Dulos and
Daryl Balmer at Parks and Recreation

1598
02:04:28,560 --> 02:04:36,239
specifically requesting a response and
received none.

1599
02:04:34,400 --> 02:04:41,440
I had the same experience with
Councilwoman Cindy McNamera. I then had

1600
02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:48,719
my letter published in the Southampton
Press and now I'm speaking to you.

1601
02:04:45,119 --> 02:04:54,960
As a pickle ball player, I simply want
to play on the public courts closest to

1602
02:04:51,360 --> 02:05:00,560
my home that my tax dollars help fund.
My letters concerned enforcement of the

1603
02:04:57,520 --> 02:05:08,159
rules at the public pickle ball courts
at 1370 Major Path. Local groups

1604
02:05:04,880 --> 02:05:13,040
routinely disregard the 45minute court
limit intended to allow others to

1605
02:05:10,400 --> 02:05:19,440
participate. They remain on the courts,
making equitable access impossible.

1606
02:05:17,199 --> 02:05:24,960
Asking these players to relinquish the
courts after their aotted time has

1607
02:05:22,480 --> 02:05:29,599
resulted in acrimony.
Taxpayers should not be forced to

1608
02:05:27,280 --> 02:05:35,440
confront other players in order to have
the town's own rules observed. Another

1609
02:05:32,880 --> 02:05:40,400
Southampton resident, Daniel Blum,
described similar rule enforcement

1610
02:05:37,520 --> 02:05:46,480
problems and hostile behavior by routine
players in an August Southampton Press

1611
02:05:43,520 --> 02:05:52,159
letter. His experience shows this is a
recurring issue, not an isolated

1612
02:05:49,119 --> 02:05:58,800
complaint. Southampton taxpayers deserve
equitable access to our public courts.

1613
02:05:56,639 --> 02:06:03,840
There is already a different model at
the town's Red Creek Park pickle ball

1614
02:06:01,440 --> 02:06:08,880
courts in Hampton Bays where a staff
member is present during the summer. I

1615
02:06:06,159 --> 02:06:14,080
know this firsthand. In order to be
reasonably sure I can play, I have

1616
02:06:11,360 --> 02:06:19,679
driven approximately 25 minutes each way
to Hampton Bays rather than the 3

1617
02:06:17,119 --> 02:06:25,280
minutes to the major path courts near my
house. The rules already exist and are

1618
02:06:23,760 --> 02:06:33,040
posted.
So, enforce them. I advocate for a town

1619
02:06:29,599 --> 02:06:39,199
staff person to monitor the 1370 majors
path courts during summer peak play

1620
02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:46,239
hours and enforce fair access and
rotation. I am asking you to reply to me

1621
02:06:42,800 --> 02:06:50,880
with how you specifically intend to
enforce the rules. Thank you very much.

1622
02:06:49,840 --> 02:06:55,199
» Please. I don't think
>> I don't know. Is that is that SYS or

1623
02:06:53,599 --> 02:07:01,599
other employees? It's uh not it's not
SYS. It's it's the town um it's the town

1624
02:06:58,400 --> 02:07:06,320
facility. Um I did have a actual long
conversation with her this afternoon um

1625
02:07:04,480 --> 02:07:11,840
after speaking to Kristen Dulos. Kristen
Dulos who you know to hear that somebody

1626
02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:15,920
didn't get a reply is not Kristen. Um
Kristen actually was waiting to hear

1627
02:07:13,840 --> 02:07:20,560
back from Vinnie Mangano who is
routinely at that pickle ball court in

1628
02:07:18,079 --> 02:07:25,679
in North Sea and wanted to hear from him
what was going on, what we could

1629
02:07:21,920 --> 02:07:32,320
potentially change. Um and uh when I
spoke to this woman today, I forget,

1630
02:07:28,239 --> 02:07:35,920
Maria is her name. Um she actually asked
that we go from the whiteboard system

1631
02:07:34,079 --> 02:07:40,800
that we have where currently I guess
players names are actually being erased

1632
02:07:37,760 --> 02:07:43,520
by people playing to a paddle system
where you put your paddle on the rack

1633
02:07:42,239 --> 02:07:46,800
and then you go through whoever's
paddles on that you play. I didn't know

1634
02:07:45,280 --> 02:07:52,159
at the time after I spoke to her, I
spoke to Kristen. Kristen said, "We had

1635
02:07:49,360 --> 02:07:56,320
the paddle rack system. That was deemed
completely a failure." So that's when

1636
02:07:53,840 --> 02:08:01,760
they went to the whiteboard system. She
also reached out to Vinnie Mano, who,

1637
02:07:58,960 --> 02:08:05,599
you know, we we've I've told her that
Kristine is going to put up for a

1638
02:08:03,679 --> 02:08:09,599
part-time person next year in the
spring. But to think that we're going to

1639
02:08:07,679 --> 02:08:14,560
get somebody to sit there and and watch
the courts from 8 to 11:30 in the

1640
02:08:12,159 --> 02:08:19,199
morning, it's
highly unlikely. and the person that

1641
02:08:16,800 --> 02:08:23,520
she's talking about at Red Creek, she
actually does instruction

1642
02:08:21,920 --> 02:08:28,079
and she happens to be there and when
she's there she will enforce the rules,

1643
02:08:25,440 --> 02:08:31,679
but it's there's a there's a there's a
group of players, you know, that's we've

1644
02:08:29,760 --> 02:08:34,400
had issues with other other people have
come and complained. It's almost like

1645
02:08:33,119 --> 02:08:37,199
you want to be the parent and be like,
I'm just taking it away from everybody

1646
02:08:35,760 --> 02:08:40,960
and shutting it down for a little bit.
Nobody's going to play. But, you know,

1647
02:08:38,960 --> 02:08:44,320
that's obviously
>> it's almost to that point where, you

1648
02:08:42,880 --> 02:08:47,199
know, to say that this is a privilege to
be able to play on these courts. I mean,

1649
02:08:45,599 --> 02:08:50,239
yes, your taxpayers funded it, but at
the same time, there's rules that have

1650
02:08:48,880 --> 02:08:55,599
to be respected. And to think that we
have to, you know, hire a young kid to

1651
02:08:53,199 --> 02:08:58,239
babysit adults playing pickle ball is
kind of crazy in my opinion. So, you

1652
02:08:58,000 --> 02:09:01,599
know,
>> so it's not SYS.

1653
02:08:59,599 --> 02:09:06,239
» It's not SYS. It's the town facility.
And to Maria's point, she had said that

1654
02:09:04,239 --> 02:09:09,840
maybe we should have the woman who does
instruction in Hampton Bay do

1655
02:09:07,840 --> 02:09:15,280
instruction in Southampton. We did
originally try that and we got inundated

1656
02:09:12,800 --> 02:09:18,320
with complaints because it's a very busy
set of courts and nobody wants

1657
02:09:16,639 --> 02:09:22,719
instruction there. They want to just go
and play when they want to play. So

1658
02:09:21,119 --> 02:09:26,880
Kristen is looking into this. We are
going to post it and see if we get a

1659
02:09:24,719 --> 02:09:32,800
pickle ball monitor next year. I you
know I most likely will not. Um you know

1660
02:09:30,800 --> 02:09:39,119
as you know we have problems staffing
our beaches and and parks. So, it's

1661
02:09:36,400 --> 02:09:42,480
we're trying and and I do owe her a
phone call back after I did speak to her

1662
02:09:40,880 --> 02:09:46,079
and found out that we have already tried
the rack system and that was deemed to

1663
02:09:44,159 --> 02:09:50,880
not work. But, I mean, we are at a point
where the behaviors and it's the same

1664
02:09:48,639 --> 02:09:54,880
people every day and it's almost like
maybe we need to close it for a little

1665
02:09:52,639 --> 02:09:58,000
bit and and just, you know, listen,
either you're going to follow the rules

1666
02:09:56,000 --> 02:10:00,400
or it's not going to be available.
>> I don't know. These are adults. It's

1667
02:09:59,920 --> 02:10:06,239
sad.
>> It is sad. As soon as the weather turns,

1668
02:10:02,639 --> 02:10:09,920
they go inside to SYS and play.
I think it's pretty much the same group

1669
02:10:08,079 --> 02:10:16,000
of people who play outside and play
inside in the winter. And we had a lot

1670
02:10:12,560 --> 02:10:19,119
of complaints syss.
>> I think the people who play pickup, not

1671
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:22,400
all of them, but there's a small
percentage of they need to have some

1672
02:10:21,199 --> 02:10:25,920
ethics put into them.
>> And I will say too, Vinnie Mano's been

1673
02:10:24,159 --> 02:10:29,119
out and usually when he's there and he
facilitates, he keeps an eye on things

1674
02:10:27,440 --> 02:10:32,079
and keeps it fair and gets everybody,
you know, kind of doing the right

1675
02:10:30,239 --> 02:10:35,520
things. But
I just, you know, these are adults.

1676
02:10:33,920 --> 02:10:39,040
These are adults are being asked to hire
staff to police adults.

1677
02:10:37,440 --> 02:10:42,239
» Yes, my wife
>> I think they did shut down SYS.

1678
02:10:41,440 --> 02:10:45,760
» I'm sorry, Will.
>> Sys shut down the inside, right?

1679
02:10:44,320 --> 02:10:51,920
» Because my wife plays pickup ball and
she says um behavior by the pickup ball

1680
02:10:48,639 --> 02:10:58,079
players are very rude.
>> Supposed to it's supposed to be a fun

1681
02:10:55,440 --> 02:11:00,880
» I know. You have to be fair to other
people. This is really disheartening to

1682
02:11:00,480 --> 02:11:03,360
hear that.
>> And on and on

1683
02:11:01,840 --> 02:11:06,560
» is there is just on that is there
signage that says

1684
02:11:04,400 --> 02:11:09,679
» there's the Barry rules are very clear.
There's a whiteboard. The whole system

1685
02:11:08,320 --> 02:11:12,960
is mapped out. Everybody knows what
they're supposed to do. But you have

1686
02:11:11,040 --> 02:11:16,880
grown adults are racing people's names
because they don't want to play with

1687
02:11:14,320 --> 02:11:20,320
them. You're talking about a 15-minute
game. It's not like you're playing with

1688
02:11:18,639 --> 02:11:24,719
this person for an hour. It's 15
minutes. So, you know, it's kind of kind

1689
02:11:23,119 --> 02:11:28,400
of disheartening. And then to Lorraine
Facilios, I will say what she was asked

1690
02:11:26,480 --> 02:11:33,599
to foil is because it's in court
currently. And on the Bacon Properties

1691
02:11:30,880 --> 02:11:38,880
Registry, there were more than two
letters put out. Um, I did speak to

1692
02:11:37,040 --> 02:11:44,159
Barbara Suzowski, who's the chair of the
CAC, at her last meeting and said, "If

1693
02:11:42,079 --> 02:11:47,280
you want to put in a a sheet or a
request of properties that you want us

1694
02:11:45,760 --> 02:11:50,639
to look into, we're happy to do that.
Don't assume that they're going to be on

1695
02:11:48,719 --> 02:11:55,119
the list." So, they are putting that
together. They have not submitted a

1696
02:11:52,320 --> 02:11:55,119
list. So,

1697
02:11:56,560 --> 02:12:02,880
Even if you had cameras at the um pickle
ball court.

1698
02:12:01,360 --> 02:12:05,119
» We do, but they're not close enough. But
it's like the same thing.

1699
02:12:03,840 --> 02:12:08,159
» Identify someone.
>> You want to go play on a court and be on

1700
02:12:06,880 --> 02:12:10,480
camera? I mean, I I
>> I know that's true.

1701
02:12:09,119 --> 02:12:14,880
» I don't want to discourage the people
that are doing the right thing.

1702
02:12:11,920 --> 02:12:18,000
» It's a lot of information. Pickle.
>> Oh boy.

1703
02:12:16,400 --> 02:12:23,239
» What do we have? Another card here. Just
in the nick of time. I was just about to

1704
02:12:19,920 --> 02:12:23,239
close it.

1705
02:12:24,000 --> 02:12:31,400
Michael Hillbrand
>> they shut the courts down this the

1706
02:12:27,440 --> 02:12:31,400
inside courts I guess

1707
02:12:31,760 --> 02:12:39,840
» I want to address some of the comments
uh first the um Councilman Pel um

1708
02:12:38,639 --> 02:12:41,280
» please identify yourself
>> Michael Hillibbrand

1709
02:12:40,800 --> 02:12:48,960
» thank you
>> Hampton base so

1710
02:12:45,679 --> 02:12:54,960
ambient groundwater maybe there is a 1
milll or 005 so when you're putting 10

1711
02:12:52,400 --> 02:13:00,480
in that's that that's the legal limit
for drinking water but wildlife requires

1712
02:12:57,520 --> 02:13:07,520
a much much smaller amount. So it's
either what I'm trying to say is it

1713
02:13:03,360 --> 02:13:12,880
doesn't treat STP doesn't treat uh
everything you know it's it's better

1714
02:13:09,840 --> 02:13:19,360
than it started with 50 to 10 but it's
still 10 to 20 times what's there in

1715
02:13:16,320 --> 02:13:24,639
natural recharge number one. Second of
all, the deep, if you Google, anyone

1716
02:13:22,400 --> 02:13:30,000
Google, should you put an STP in a deep
flow recharge area, see what you get.

1717
02:13:27,199 --> 02:13:34,480
It's the worst place to put it. Someone
just said it was the best place to put

1718
02:13:31,760 --> 02:13:38,639
it, which is insane. That's because the
whole Pine Barons was started for that.

1719
02:13:36,400 --> 02:13:43,920
That is that is the the resource of all
our drinking water. And it's not re

1720
02:13:41,599 --> 02:13:48,239
natural recharge is from water going
through. It's artificial recharge and

1721
02:13:46,400 --> 02:13:53,199
has pollutants in it. And those
pollutants again I keep saying are north

1722
02:13:50,960 --> 02:13:57,119
of the groundwater divide. That's a
different water body. So that water body

1723
02:13:55,599 --> 02:14:01,760
is going to get worse. That goes to
Flanders Bay. It goes to there's some

1724
02:13:59,520 --> 02:14:06,639
wetlands to the west. It goes to
Hoverard Creek. That's that's the whole

1725
02:14:04,239 --> 02:14:11,760
point of this. If it if this sewer
treatment plant was in the same

1726
02:14:08,560 --> 02:14:15,520
waterhed, yes, you're taking uh water
with higher nitrogen and making it

1727
02:14:13,679 --> 02:14:22,159
lower. Here you're taking watering
pudding. You're making the the nitrogen

1728
02:14:18,719 --> 02:14:28,400
higher. So it's it's not it you you're
this is this this area was set aside

1729
02:14:25,199 --> 02:14:34,079
like 40 years ago for um you know just
just to be reserved so we have drinking

1730
02:14:30,800 --> 02:14:40,719
water. when um they first built the
subdivision. We're we're the model house

1731
02:14:36,480 --> 02:14:46,079
of the nine lot subdivision and the the
county bought it because it was too

1732
02:14:42,960 --> 02:14:49,040
sensitive to build any more houses for
groundwater recharge. That's why they

1733
02:14:47,760 --> 02:14:54,079
bought it. That's why there are no
houses to the west. We our house

1734
02:14:51,360 --> 02:14:58,079
probably shouldn't be there. But now you
want to build next to it a sewer

1735
02:14:55,679 --> 02:15:03,119
treatment plant which literally equal to
1,800 new houses. That's how much is

1736
02:15:01,520 --> 02:15:07,679
going to go in there. There'll be the
new system houses with the IIA system,

1737
02:15:05,920 --> 02:15:13,360
but that's the problem. And the second
thing is there's always leaks and that

1738
02:15:11,280 --> 02:15:18,239
leak when you go in a deep recharge, it
it it's just it's the reservoir for the

1739
02:15:16,159 --> 02:15:23,199
whole island. It's like it's almost like
they're reading the the maps exactly

1740
02:15:20,960 --> 02:15:27,599
opposite because it just doesn't go
away. So, you're going to add all these

1741
02:15:25,440 --> 02:15:32,239
chemicals, all these pollutants, any it
just happened in Riverhead a month ago

1742
02:15:29,599 --> 02:15:37,040
in July. There was an overflow. It It
goes It went right into Okay. went right

1743
02:15:35,119 --> 02:15:42,800
into it and it doesn't go away. And
that's the problem. That's what if if

1744
02:15:39,119 --> 02:15:47,760
you read uh Legislator Ingel's letter
carefully, that's that's what they're

1745
02:15:44,800 --> 02:15:51,199
talking about. It's not it that's why
old sewer treatment plans are really

1746
02:15:49,599 --> 02:15:57,280
close to the water and even in
Riverside. doesn't mean it that that is

1747
02:15:53,679 --> 02:16:01,040
still going to go into uh Flanders Bay.
It's it's still going to travel

1748
02:15:58,719 --> 02:16:04,320
underwater, you know, it goes at a
certain rate and uh quickly

1749
02:16:03,199 --> 02:16:09,520
» three minutes.
>> Okay. Uh and uh quickly there is also if

1750
02:16:07,920 --> 02:16:13,599
you look at any of the groundwater
there, there was perched water next door

1751
02:16:11,520 --> 02:16:19,360
in a resource recovery area. There's
there's like um if you look at the old

1752
02:16:15,760 --> 02:16:24,239
subdiv subdivision um profiles of uh
soils, there's there's like 10 ft of

1753
02:16:21,679 --> 02:16:28,880
clay and there's uh there's all this
silt and there's hard pan and it's very

1754
02:16:26,880 --> 02:16:32,559
unpredictable how that water is going to
move. You don't know how fast it's going

1755
02:16:30,719 --> 02:16:36,399
to move laterally. So, it's going to go
down. It's going to go down deep and

1756
02:16:34,399 --> 02:16:38,080
it's going to go sideways and it's hard
to predict. Thank you.

1757
02:16:37,679 --> 02:16:41,240
» Thank you.
>> Thank you.

1758
02:16:41,359 --> 02:16:45,200
All right. Well, if there's no other
comments, I move to close the public

1759
02:16:44,639 --> 02:16:47,599
portion.
>> Second.

1760
02:16:45,599 --> 02:16:54,399
» All in favor? I
>> Let's move ahead with the resolutions.

1761
02:16:51,519 --> 02:16:58,240
» Town board resolution 1234 of 2026,
co-sponsored with Councilman Neely.

1762
02:16:56,479 --> 02:17:02,240
Authorize supervisor to sign any and all
documents with Electronics Systems

1763
02:17:00,479 --> 02:17:05,200
Central Station Alarms, Inc. for fire
and burglary alarm control panel upgrade

1764
02:17:04,319 --> 02:17:06,719
and replacement.
>> Second.

1765
02:17:05,760 --> 02:17:12,000
» All in favor?
>> I. Resolution 2026-1239

1766
02:17:10,160 --> 02:17:16,639
to authorize the supervisor to execute
any and all documents relating to an

1767
02:17:13,920 --> 02:17:20,399
agreement with Tel View Corporation to
continue to provide software support and

1768
02:17:18,639 --> 02:17:24,880
software maintenance for Southampton
Sun20 TV.

1769
02:17:21,760 --> 02:17:33,599
» Second and co-sponsor madam clerk.
>> All in favor? I. Resolution 2026-1274

1770
02:17:30,240 --> 02:17:39,599
to award a mini bid 10003-26
and to authorize the purchase of one

1771
02:17:35,840 --> 02:17:45,040
2026 Ford Ranger Super Crew 4x4 XL from
Scorpio Motors LLC doing business as

1772
02:17:42,479 --> 02:17:49,200
Greenwich Ford using the New York State
OS contract for vehicles class 1 through

1773
02:17:47,920 --> 02:17:50,960
8 statewide.
>> Second.

1774
02:17:49,760 --> 02:17:59,280
» All in favor?
>> I. Resolution 2026-1279

1775
02:17:55,040 --> 02:18:06,399
award mini bid 100005-26
authorize the purchase of one 2026 Ford

1776
02:18:02,319 --> 02:18:15,359
Superduty F250 XL from Haley's Brother
Ford LLC LLC use it New York State OGS

1777
02:18:12,000 --> 02:18:16,880
contract for vehicle class 1-8 statewide
>> second

1778
02:18:15,920 --> 02:18:21,519
» all in favor
>> I

1779
02:18:18,880 --> 02:18:26,800
tile board resolution 1284 of 2026 award
bid packet uh 38 of 2026 and authorize

1780
02:18:25,040 --> 02:18:29,679
supervisors to sign contract with core
and main LP for meter replacement.

1781
02:18:29,040 --> 02:18:32,080
» Second.
>> All in favor?

1782
02:18:30,719 --> 02:18:39,040
» I I
>> resolution 2026-1287

1783
02:18:35,599 --> 02:18:44,000
award bid package 2026-0037
to authorize supervisor to sign contract

1784
02:18:41,439 --> 02:18:47,120
with decoy construction inc for boat
ramp reconstruction for Pconic Bay and

1785
02:18:46,000 --> 02:18:52,719
Corwin Lane.
>> Second. All in favor?

1786
02:18:48,639 --> 02:18:55,679
» I. Resolution 20261289
co-sponsor with supervisor Moore

1787
02:18:54,160 --> 02:19:00,000
authorized the purchase from Federal
Eastern International LLC using the New

1788
02:18:58,160 --> 02:19:02,880
York State OS contract number as
indicated for firearms ammunition and

1789
02:19:01,760 --> 02:19:04,319
less lethal products.
>> Second.

1790
02:19:03,359 --> 02:19:08,160
» All in favor?
>> I.

1791
02:19:05,519 --> 02:19:12,160
» Resolution 2026-1290
authorized purchase from Long Island

1792
02:19:10,080 --> 02:19:19,760
Pre-Cast Inc. used in Suffach County
contract PC 051

1793
02:19:16,800 --> 02:19:21,840
523 for pre-cast structure and casting.
>> Second.

1794
02:19:20,800 --> 02:19:25,359
» All in favor?
>> I I

1795
02:19:22,880 --> 02:19:28,080
» resolution 20261292
co-sponsored with supervisor Moore to

1796
02:19:26,800 --> 02:19:32,639
authorize the purchase of priority
dispatch system annual maintenance from

1797
02:19:30,160 --> 02:19:35,840
Medical Priority Consultants Inc. DBA
priority dispatch system for the PD.

1798
02:19:35,200 --> 02:19:37,840
» Second.
>> All in favor?

1799
02:19:36,880 --> 02:19:42,160
» I.
>> Town board resolution 1293 of 2026.

1800
02:19:40,319 --> 02:19:46,479
Authorized purchase from Musco Sports
Lighting LLC using source contract as

1801
02:19:44,960 --> 02:19:48,399
indicated for sports lighting.
>> Second.

1802
02:19:47,120 --> 02:19:52,160
» All in favor?
>> I.

1803
02:19:49,359 --> 02:19:56,720
» Resolution 2026-1305
to authorize the supervisor to execute a

1804
02:19:54,560 --> 02:20:01,600
contract amendment with Daniel R.
Felasco PEPC as it relates to

1805
02:19:59,760 --> 02:20:05,520
professional consulting services for the
Fire Island to inlet to Montalk project.

1806
02:20:05,040 --> 02:20:10,160
» Second.
>> All in favor?

1807
02:20:06,399 --> 02:20:14,640
» I. Resolution 2026-1311
co-sponsored by council members Pel and

1808
02:20:12,240 --> 02:20:18,479
Malamera to authorize funding for the
Hampton Bay Water District for funding

1809
02:20:16,479 --> 02:20:21,280
wellhead treatment for the removal of
POS at plant number three.

1810
02:20:20,560 --> 02:20:26,800
» Second.
>> All in favor?

1811
02:20:22,560 --> 02:20:30,800
» I resolution 2026
1312 authorized funding for the town of

1812
02:20:28,880 --> 02:20:34,319
Southampton land management department
for Hampton Bay sewer system design

1813
02:20:33,200 --> 02:20:40,080
engineer.
>> Second.

1814
02:20:35,120 --> 02:20:44,000
» All in favor? I resolution 20261315
to authorize purchases from General

1815
02:20:41,680 --> 02:20:47,840
Motors LLC using source contract number
as indicated for automotive parts and

1816
02:20:46,319 --> 02:20:49,200
supplies co-sponsored with supervisor
Moore.

1817
02:20:48,720 --> 02:20:53,840
» Second.
>> All in favor?

1818
02:20:50,319 --> 02:20:57,120
» I resolution 2026 1316 co-sponsored with
supervisor Moore authorized purchase

1819
02:20:55,280 --> 02:21:02,240
from Eastern SuffK Bosey's contract
number as indicated for General Motors,

1820
02:20:59,760 --> 02:21:06,240
Chevrolet, Chrysler, Dodge, and Ford OEM
repairs and parts. Second.

1821
02:21:04,080 --> 02:21:11,600
» All in favor? I
>> town board resolution 1318 of 2026

1822
02:21:08,960 --> 02:21:15,280
accept the donation of a 2003 southwest
trailer from Suffach County Department

1823
02:21:12,960 --> 02:21:17,120
of Fire Rescue and Emergency Services.
>> Second.

1824
02:21:16,000 --> 02:21:21,520
» All in favor?
>> I.

1825
02:21:18,399 --> 02:21:25,600
» Resolution 2026-1321
declare item surplus and authorize

1826
02:21:23,439 --> 02:21:26,960
dispose of trailer.
>> Second.

1827
02:21:26,080 --> 02:21:30,399
» All in favor?
>> I

1828
02:21:27,280 --> 02:21:35,120
» I. Resolution 2026-1326
to authorize the supervisor to execute a

1829
02:21:32,720 --> 02:21:39,200
contract with First Coastal Corporation
as it relates to professional services

1830
02:21:37,120 --> 02:21:40,720
for the Fire Island Inlet to Montuk
Point project.

1831
02:21:40,080 --> 02:21:43,840
» Second.
>> All in favor? I

1832
02:21:42,000 --> 02:21:47,560
» I
>> resolution 2026-1332

1833
02:21:47,760 --> 02:21:59,439
award mini bid of 1012-26
authorized dep of one 2026 Ford T350

1834
02:21:56,000 --> 02:22:03,680
from Schultz Ford Lincoln Inc. using New
York State OS contract for vehicles

1835
02:22:01,840 --> 02:22:06,160
class 1-8.
>> Second. All

1836
02:22:05,200 --> 02:22:11,439
» in favor? I
>> I found board resolution 1296 of 2026

1837
02:22:09,680 --> 02:22:14,880
co-sponsored with councilman Neely
notice to biders for wellhead treatment

1838
02:22:13,040 --> 02:22:19,200
for the removal of peas at plant number
three contract F foundation construction

1839
02:22:17,120 --> 02:22:21,600
bid packet number as indicated
>> second.

1840
02:22:20,160 --> 02:22:25,280
» All in favor I
>> I

1841
02:22:22,479 --> 02:22:28,000
» town board resolution 1297 of 2026
co-sponsored with councilman Neely

1842
02:22:26,640 --> 02:22:31,760
notice to biders for wellhead treatment
for the removal of POS at plant number

1843
02:22:29,760 --> 02:22:35,200
three granulated activated carbon
absorber contract bid packet number as

1844
02:22:33,680 --> 02:22:38,399
indicated. Second.
>> All in favor?

1845
02:22:36,160 --> 02:22:43,520
» I.
>> Resolution 2026-1308.

1846
02:22:41,840 --> 02:22:49,880
Notice the biders for Long Neck
Boulevard in Fllanders Bio bid package

1847
02:22:46,240 --> 02:22:49,880
number 2026-000047.

1848
02:22:51,200 --> 02:22:58,479
» Second. How's that for service?
>> All in favor? I. So October 7th, we'll

1849
02:22:56,399 --> 02:23:03,280
have the bids and hopefully we can award
it right away and get that project done.

1850
02:23:01,359 --> 02:23:08,399
» Yes. It's been on and off for the last
two years.

1851
02:23:05,520 --> 02:23:14,560
» Resolution 2026-1323
notice to biders for 2026 supply number

1852
02:23:11,840 --> 02:23:21,120
two fuel oil service and repair bid
packet number as indicated.

1853
02:23:16,479 --> 02:23:27,439
» Second. All in favor? I
>> resolution 2026-1328

1854
02:23:24,479 --> 02:23:32,800
notice of bidder for Bayway improvement
bid package number 2026-000045

1855
02:23:31,120 --> 02:23:36,960
co-sponsored by the supervisor and
Michaela second

1856
02:23:35,840 --> 02:23:42,800
» all in favor
>> I town board resolution 1331 of 2026

1857
02:23:41,120 --> 02:23:46,479
reject bid and second notice to biders
for granulated activated carbon change

1858
02:23:44,720 --> 02:23:48,319
out bid packet number as indicated
>> second

1859
02:23:47,120 --> 02:23:52,160
» all All in favor?
>> I.

1860
02:23:49,439 --> 02:23:56,160
» Resolution 2026-1335,
co-sponsored by council members Pal and

1861
02:23:54,000 --> 02:24:00,479
Aasili, a second notice to biders
renoticing and extending the bid opening

1862
02:23:58,560 --> 02:24:02,399
date for Penny Park.
>> Second.

1863
02:24:01,200 --> 02:24:06,000
» All in favor?
>> I.

1864
02:24:03,520 --> 02:24:12,960
» So Jim, we are trying, but we're being
held up. Jim Din, you're talking about

1865
02:24:10,080 --> 02:24:17,760
resolution 2026-1306,
co-sponsored by council member Pel, a

1866
02:24:14,960 --> 02:24:22,000
bond authorization of $500,000 for
construction of the new town activity

1867
02:24:19,520 --> 02:24:26,720
center at 393 Mill Road, West Hampton
Beach. Madame Clerk, does that have to

1868
02:24:24,240 --> 02:24:28,960
be the role? There is. We need a second
first.

1869
02:24:27,200 --> 02:24:33,040
» Second.
>> Thank you, Supervisor Moore.

1870
02:24:31,280 --> 02:24:35,120
» Yes. Councilman Neil,
>> yes.

1871
02:24:33,520 --> 02:24:38,479
» Councilman Sili,
>> yes. Councilman Cal.

1872
02:24:36,800 --> 02:24:45,280
» Yes. Counciloman McNair.
>> Yes.

1873
02:24:40,720 --> 02:24:49,920
» Thank you. Resolution 2026-1275
to amend the 2026 adopted budget for

1874
02:24:48,080 --> 02:24:53,760
special events.
>> Second.

1875
02:24:50,960 --> 02:24:59,600
» All in favor? Me too.
>> Uh resolution 2026-13000

1876
02:24:56,800 --> 02:25:03,680
co-sponsored by council members and Pal
to authorize the transfer of funds to

1877
02:25:01,280 --> 02:25:06,479
replenish the historic burying ground
fund. Second.

1878
02:25:05,200 --> 02:25:10,800
» All in favor?
>> I just want to say one thing on this.

1879
02:25:09,120 --> 02:25:15,439
» People don't realize how important this
is.

1880
02:25:12,080 --> 02:25:21,680
» We had a cemetery meeting today
>> and um we have a lot of people are very

1881
02:25:19,439 --> 02:25:29,600
committed to take care of the cemeteries
volunteers and so when you lose one and

1882
02:25:26,720 --> 02:25:31,920
or you die yourself, you know, hopefully
in 100 years someone will be taking care

1883
02:25:31,120 --> 02:25:36,960
of your grave.
>> Exactly. Thank you, Bill.

1884
02:25:34,560 --> 02:25:40,880
it won't be me.
But yeah, and on that note, I want to

1885
02:25:38,720 --> 02:25:46,080
thank you for restoring the fund because
we just put up a beautiful fence on the

1886
02:25:43,359 --> 02:25:51,680
north end cemetery on North uh Dorsy
Road there. And um we uh we're very

1887
02:25:49,359 --> 02:25:55,840
thrilled. It looks beautiful. And it's
in celebration too of the 250th

1888
02:25:53,760 --> 02:26:00,160
anniversary of the founding, you know,
of the United States. And we have

1889
02:25:57,600 --> 02:26:04,800
revolutionary war soldiers in that
cemetery. So it was the timing was very

1890
02:26:02,880 --> 02:26:08,960
good but we appreciate you replenishing
the fund because that that money is

1891
02:26:06,479 --> 02:26:13,600
needed for future repairs on on
infrastructure. So thank you and Julie

1892
02:26:11,120 --> 02:26:19,040
Green is wonderful partner uh in the
historic division helping to oversee all

1893
02:26:16,080 --> 02:26:23,439
of this and my two liaison um Councilman
Pel and Councilman Aili have been

1894
02:26:21,359 --> 02:26:27,280
attending the meetings which has been a
new development in the last 20 years

1895
02:26:26,240 --> 02:26:31,280
actually. So, um,
>> well, there's going to be some really

1896
02:26:28,960 --> 02:26:34,319
fun, interesting, historically engaging
things to come in the future.

1897
02:26:32,880 --> 02:26:35,600
» Yes, very much. Thank you for your
support.

1898
02:26:35,040 --> 02:26:38,319
» Can't wait.
>> I'm not really too keen on having tours

1899
02:26:37,280 --> 02:26:41,040
in cemeteries.
>> What's that?

1900
02:26:39,040 --> 02:26:44,240
» I'm not really too keen on letting
people have tours in cemeteries.

1901
02:26:42,399 --> 02:26:49,760
» What about a Halloween scavenger hunt?
>> Oh, yeah. We shut those down. We shut

1902
02:26:48,399 --> 02:26:55,280
those down.
>> All right. Resolution 2026-1301

1903
02:26:53,120 --> 02:27:00,720
co-sponsored by Councilwoman McNamera to
authorize the 2026 contributions to the

1904
02:26:58,399 --> 02:27:02,479
volunteer ambulance workers trust fund.
>> Second.

1905
02:27:01,280 --> 02:27:06,240
» All in favor?
>> I

1906
02:27:04,319 --> 02:27:11,040
this next one you withdraw.
>> Tom Neely

1907
02:27:07,439 --> 02:27:14,640
» resolution 2026-1336.
We are going to

1908
02:27:13,120 --> 02:27:16,640
» Right. We're going to withdraw this.
>> Withdraw our table.

1909
02:27:15,439 --> 02:27:20,800
» Be redone.
>> Withdraw it so they can redo it and put

1910
02:27:18,479 --> 02:27:24,560
a new one on. That's correct.
>> Well, we have to make a change.

1911
02:27:22,800 --> 02:27:27,920
» So, we draw it,
>> right?

1912
02:27:25,520 --> 02:27:32,520
» Not not official to the surviving
spouse. That's right.

1913
02:27:29,520 --> 02:27:32,520
» Okay.

1914
02:27:32,800 --> 02:27:42,000
Okay. Resolution 2026-1337
resolution of adoption enacting article

1915
02:27:39,200 --> 02:27:46,880
20 exemption for surviving spouses of
police officers killed in the line of

1916
02:27:43,760 --> 02:27:50,479
duty of chapter 298 taxation of the
Southampton Town Code. Second.

1917
02:27:49,520 --> 02:27:55,439
» All in favor?
>> I

1918
02:27:53,280 --> 02:27:58,800
board resolution 1294 of 2026,
authorization of cost reimbursement

1919
02:27:57,040 --> 02:28:02,960
waiver for the Galilee Church of God in
Christ violence free block party which

1920
02:28:00,479 --> 02:28:04,560
was held on August 22nd, 2026 from 10:00
a.m. to 3 p.m.

1921
02:28:03,920 --> 02:28:09,120
» Second.
>> All in favor?

1922
02:28:05,520 --> 02:28:12,479
» I. Town Board resolution 1298 of 2026
authorized waiver of parks and

1923
02:28:10,720 --> 02:28:15,680
recreation facility use fee for the
Piconic Invitational cross country race.

1924
02:28:15,120 --> 02:28:17,840
» Second.
>> All in favor? I

1925
02:28:17,200 --> 02:28:21,920
» I
>> town board resolution 1302 of 2026. We

1926
02:28:20,560 --> 02:28:24,160
have a portion of the show mobile fees
for the San Janeiro feast of the

1927
02:28:23,200 --> 02:28:26,160
Hamptons.
>> Second.

1928
02:28:24,720 --> 02:28:29,280
» All in favor?
>> That's this weekend just in case anybody

1929
02:28:27,840 --> 02:28:32,520
wanted to go.
>> This weekend

1930
02:28:33,680 --> 02:28:37,680
was this weekend. Was this weekend?
>> Yeah.

1931
02:28:35,920 --> 02:28:44,640
» 123
Las Vegas. Resolution 2026-1310

1932
02:28:42,640 --> 02:28:49,920
co-sponsored by council members McNamera
and Neely to authorize the sale of 1.5

1933
02:28:47,600 --> 02:28:51,680
town owned Pine Barons credits.
>> Second.

1934
02:28:50,640 --> 02:28:56,720
» All in favor?
>> I.

1935
02:28:53,760 --> 02:29:01,920
» Town board resolution 1314 of 2026
co-sponsored by the entire town board

1936
02:28:59,040 --> 02:29:05,920
designate September 20 26 as National
Recovery Month in the town of

1937
02:29:03,280 --> 02:29:08,880
Southampton.
>> Second

1938
02:29:06,800 --> 02:29:12,640
» and I would like to read it. Whereas
National Recovery Month is a national

1939
02:29:10,560 --> 02:29:16,080
observance held every September in order
to educate Americans that substance use

1940
02:29:14,479 --> 02:29:19,439
treatment and mental health services can
enable those with mental substance use

1941
02:29:17,760 --> 02:29:23,359
disorders to live healthy and rewarding
lives. And whereas the town recognizes

1942
02:29:21,600 --> 02:29:26,720
that currently there are 23 million
Americans in recovery who are going

1943
02:29:25,439 --> 02:29:29,920
through the process of change by
improving their health and wellness,

1944
02:29:28,240 --> 02:29:33,439
living a self-directed life, and
striving to reach their full potential.

1945
02:29:31,760 --> 02:29:36,880
And whereas represented by the color
purple, National Recovery Month shines a

1946
02:29:35,439 --> 02:29:41,439
purple light on recovery and raises
awareness of substance use abuse

1947
02:29:39,200 --> 02:29:44,479
disorders. And whereas those purple
lights shine brightly throughout the

1948
02:29:42,720 --> 02:29:48,640
town of Southampton, including the Koopa
at the top of town hall, the big duck in

1949
02:29:46,640 --> 02:29:53,040
Flanders, St. Mary's Church in Hampton
Bay, and the Sag Harbor windmill.

1950
02:29:51,040 --> 02:29:56,479
Recognizing all those in the process of
recovery, those who have lost their

1951
02:29:54,560 --> 02:30:00,319
lives to addiction, those who have been
affected by addiction, and those who

1952
02:29:57,920 --> 02:30:04,080
make recovery possible. Now therefore,
be it resolved that the town board of

1953
02:30:01,840 --> 02:30:08,000
the town of Southampton hereby wishes to
join Safe and Southampton, its members

1954
02:30:05,920 --> 02:30:12,479
and members including the Southampton
Town Police Department, Human

1955
02:30:09,680 --> 02:30:16,479
Understanding and Growth Services, HUGs,
Long Island Addiction Resource Center,

1956
02:30:14,560 --> 02:30:20,319
Hampton Bay Schools, Hampton Coffee
Company, the town of Southampton Youth

1957
02:30:18,479 --> 02:30:24,479
Bureau, Stony Brook Southampton
Hospital, I try St. Mary's Church in

1958
02:30:22,560 --> 02:30:28,399
Hampton Bays and other community members
in designating September 2026 as

1959
02:30:26,720 --> 02:30:31,600
National Recovery Month in the town of
Southampton.

1960
02:30:30,479 --> 02:30:34,240
» All in favor?
>> I.

1961
02:30:32,399 --> 02:30:39,040
» And I, you know, it's not just these.
I've noticed a lot of the other churches

1962
02:30:36,319 --> 02:30:42,640
and windmills have had the lights, so
it's really catching on.

1963
02:30:40,800 --> 02:30:45,680
» I know Westampton windmill they did
around it, right?

1964
02:30:43,520 --> 02:30:49,359
» Around it and in the windows. And then
the church across the street, St. Marks,

1965
02:30:47,520 --> 02:30:53,600
has the same thing lit up.
>> Nice.

1966
02:30:50,000 --> 02:30:56,880
» Yeah. Town Board Resolution 1325 of
2026, authorization of cost

1967
02:30:55,520 --> 02:31:02,240
reimbursement waiver for the Hampton
Bay's Lions Club 15th annual Over the

1968
02:30:59,120 --> 02:31:04,720
Bridge 10K run and 5K runwalk to be held
on September 19th, 2026.

1969
02:31:04,240 --> 02:31:06,319
» Second.
>> All in favor?

1970
02:31:05,920 --> 02:31:12,640
» I.
>> Resolution 2026 1269 to attend the 2026

1971
02:31:10,720 --> 02:31:14,640
public safety symposium, building safer
and stronger communities.

1972
02:31:14,000 --> 02:31:19,200
» Second.
>> All in favor?

1973
02:31:15,760 --> 02:31:23,920
» I. Town Board Resolution 1309 of 2026
authorized fire marshal Shaun Kernin to

1974
02:31:21,600 --> 02:31:28,479
attend the New York State Fire Academy
fire investigation photography class

1975
02:31:25,760 --> 02:31:30,640
September 30th to October 2nd 2026 in
Montour Falls, New York.

1976
02:31:29,840 --> 02:31:36,080
» Second.
>> All in favor?

1977
02:31:31,600 --> 02:31:40,160
» I I resolution 2026-1316
co-sponsored by council members McNamera

1978
02:31:38,080 --> 02:31:42,800
and Pal to promote Paula Godfrey to
senior legislative aid in the town

1979
02:31:41,840 --> 02:31:44,240
council's office.
>> Second.

1980
02:31:43,280 --> 02:31:50,720
» All in favor?
>> I. Resolution 2026-1322.

1981
02:31:48,880 --> 02:31:57,600
» I just want to say she works very hard
for us. Very hard. She's a good egg.

1982
02:31:54,000 --> 02:32:02,479
» Seven days a week she's working for us.
>> Resolution 2026-1322

1983
02:32:00,560 --> 02:32:05,520
to appoint Justin Latiri to youth
counselor position in the youth bureau.

1984
02:32:04,800 --> 02:32:10,840
» Second.
>> All in favor? I.

1985
02:32:07,200 --> 02:32:10,840
» This what we did.

1986
02:32:15,520 --> 02:32:26,399
You're sorry. Resolution 2026-1295,
notice of public hearing to consider

1987
02:32:22,960 --> 02:32:30,080
amending town code chapter 312-9 to add
stop intersection regulations at the

1988
02:32:28,319 --> 02:32:34,160
intersections of Greenway Court at Old
Riverhead Road West and Gateway Court at

1989
02:32:32,560 --> 02:32:38,000
Greenway Court, Hampton Bay.
>> Second.

1990
02:32:36,399 --> 02:32:42,640
» All in favor?
>> And Tom, someone will be here to talk to

1991
02:32:39,920 --> 02:32:46,960
us about that, right? either either Tom
or May will be here to show us on an

1992
02:32:45,600 --> 02:32:50,800
aerial and explain it.
>> October 13th.

1993
02:32:49,120 --> 02:32:56,240
» Yes, I already told them.
>> Thank you. Uh resolution 2026-1319

1994
02:32:54,479 --> 02:33:00,880
co-sponsored by the entire board. A
notice of public hearing to consider all

1995
02:32:58,319 --> 02:33:05,680
the water quality improvement projects
proposed for the 2026 Community

1996
02:33:03,120 --> 02:33:08,800
Preservation Fund 20% water quality
improvement plan grant funding.

1997
02:33:08,000 --> 02:33:13,600
» Second.
>> All in favor? I can I just say I want to

1998
02:33:11,280 --> 02:33:17,680
I I just want to thank Jackie and Dan
for your hard work as well as working

1999
02:33:15,439 --> 02:33:22,240
with all of our other departments uh
highway department in particular. Um we

2000
02:33:20,800 --> 02:33:25,359
just really appreciate your
responsiveness to some of these

2001
02:33:24,399 --> 02:33:29,520
requests.
>> Yes, I say thank you. And actually a few

2002
02:33:27,439 --> 02:33:33,120
people actually watched it and they
asked me about some of this stuff

2003
02:33:31,439 --> 02:33:36,000
» which is nice because now they can come
to the public hearing and they can speak

2004
02:33:34,880 --> 02:33:37,840
because they know what we're talking
about.

2005
02:33:36,479 --> 02:33:40,399
» Not come because I already answered the
question.

2006
02:33:38,080 --> 02:33:43,439
» There you go. So, we did half and now
we're going to do the other half this

2007
02:33:41,840 --> 02:33:45,760
Thursday. And uh
>> Thank you.

2008
02:33:44,160 --> 02:33:51,920
» Then there was a change. So, it's
September 24th, Thursday, 10:00 a.m.

2009
02:33:49,040 --> 02:33:56,720
That's when the public hearing will be.
>> Okay. Next, it's resol resolution

2010
02:33:54,160 --> 02:34:00,399
2026-1324.
I am going to be withdrawing this

2011
02:33:58,479 --> 02:34:04,399
resolution.
It was to have a public hearing to add

2012
02:34:02,399 --> 02:34:09,359
stopping, prohibited, and designated
locations on a portion of State Route 24

2013
02:34:06,640 --> 02:34:16,319
Flanders. I'm withdrawing that because
um we had uh I did not believe that we

2014
02:34:13,200 --> 02:34:22,160
enacted regulations on state roads into
the town code and I was initially told

2015
02:34:18,399 --> 02:34:25,760
that that was a uh we do now. Um but I
asked uh the town attorney's office and

2016
02:34:24,080 --> 02:34:31,520
the engineering office to dig a little
deeper and in and in fact we do not

2017
02:34:29,760 --> 02:34:34,720
enact
uh regulations on state roads. So we're

2018
02:34:33,600 --> 02:34:38,560
withdrawing this one.
>> Okay, that makes sense. Thank you, Tom.

2019
02:34:36,800 --> 02:34:42,560
Resolution
2026-1320

2020
02:34:40,720 --> 02:34:49,600
co-sponsored by the entire board to
authorize the acquisition of 2024

2021
02:34:45,760 --> 02:34:55,200
208 212 and 214 Old Country Road and
four scrub lots in Eastport, Remenberg,

2022
02:34:52,399 --> 02:34:59,600
Bianca, Northampton and to amend the CPF
management and stewardship plan to

2023
02:34:56,880 --> 02:35:05,040
include these properties. Second all in
favor. And last but not least, let's

2024
02:35:02,960 --> 02:35:08,040
see, we've got town board resolution
2026-1344

2025
02:35:08,240 --> 02:35:16,160
to authorize the acquisition of 1719
North Sea Road in the Hamlet of North

2026
02:35:13,359 --> 02:35:20,720
Sea and to amend the CPF project plan
and CPF management and stewardship plan

2027
02:35:18,720 --> 02:35:22,560
to include the property.
>> Second.

2028
02:35:21,359 --> 02:35:24,640
» All in favor?
>> I.

2029
02:35:22,800 --> 02:35:31,760
» And that's I'm co-sponsored by the
entire board. And lastly,

2030
02:35:27,680 --> 02:35:36,960
town board resolution 2026-1350,
which is the warrant number 17, capital

2031
02:35:34,800 --> 02:35:40,240
17, CPF17,
dated September 8th, 2026.

2032
02:35:39,680 --> 02:35:43,840
» Second.
>> All in favor?

2033
02:35:41,600 --> 02:35:47,359
» I.
>> All right.

2034
02:35:45,600 --> 02:35:49,840
There's no other business. I move to
close the meeting. Second.

2035
02:35:48,640 --> 02:35:52,840
» All in favor? Bye.
>> Bye.