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Probably. On your good. All

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right, well, we're ready. I'd like to call the meeting

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to order. Please rise and join me in the pledge.

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Of Latin, I believe. To the flag of the United

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States of America. For which it stands. One nation under

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God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you

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for coming, everyone. Madam Clerk, would you please read the

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role? Present.

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Here. All right. Thank you. I moved to approve the

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minutes of the regular town board meeting of December. 9,

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2025. 2nd. All in favor? Aye. I moved to approve

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the minutes of the regular town. Board meeting of December

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18, 2025 2nd. All in favor? Aye. And moved to

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approve the minutes. Of the town board's organizational meeting on

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January. 5th. 2026. 2nd. All in favor? Aye. All right.

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Madam Clerk, would you please read the communication? Certainly. We

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have received the following communications in the office of the

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tower clerk. We have received public notices. For many years.

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Association of Towns for notice of 2026 nearly elected town

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officials school. In January in Albany and also other dates

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and corners. New York State Department of Public service notice

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of 2026 Winter preparedness workshop webinar. New York State Liquor

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Author Authority 30 day advanced notice from the listed entity.

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Notice of adoption. Household notice of public hearing. There was

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a. Village of West Hampton beach. My mic is on

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now. Zoning Board of Appeals hearing for 104 Main Street,

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West Hampton beach. Correspondence regarding the following topics planning board

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matter of 94 Dune Road, East Quag. Speeding traffic, old

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country road, East Quag and the Zoning Board of Appeals

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application to be heard on January 15. For Percy Avenue,

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West Hampton. The following bid and RFP submissions were received

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on Wednesday, December 17 a bid for 2025 water meter

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replacement. And a bid for 2025 tree clearing at plant

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number three on Thursday, December 18. An RFP for 93

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Butter Lane Bridge, Hampton Farming proposal was received as well

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as an RFP for 834 townline road, sagaponic farming proposal.

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In that concursive communications for this meeting's agenda. Thank you.

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I have two walk on resolution. The first is town

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board resolution id number 2026 one five nine. To authorize

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the supervisor. To execute a contract with all island testing

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Associates, Inc. For professional services related to special building inspections.

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At the West Hampton Community Center. And the second is

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town board resolution id number 2026 one six two. Which

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is the warrant? Number one. First one of the year.

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And I moved to add these two resolutions to the

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agenda. Second. All in favor? Aye. That brings us to

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the public hearing. Madam Clerk, would you please read the

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notice of the first. Public hearing. Public hearing number one

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to consider the acquisition of 1950 Meadow Lane in the

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village of Southampton and Amend CPA project plan and CPF

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management stewardship plan to include the property.

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Good afternoon and happy new year. Town board, madam supervisor.

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Nice to be here today for this specific property. Jacqueline

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Fenlin, CPF manager for the town of Southampton. Today we

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are here. As. Town clerk. Shermeyer provided for the property

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at 1950 Meadow Lane in the village of Southampton. This

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is known as Suffolk county tax UMP number 9421 111.1.

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So the owner is Francis arcatz. They have expressed interest

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in selling the property for 25,800,000. Dollars to the town

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of Southampton. This property is not included in the project

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plan, so this public hearing is also before you here

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today to include this in the project plan. It is

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a recommendation that this property should be included in the

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community preservation project plan designated under the village in hamlet

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Greens parks, recreation and open space target area. This property

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is unique because it contains maritime dunes, maritime beaches, and

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will preserve valuable shoreline along the Atlantic Ocean, which is

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serving coastal resiliency objectives and will further provide public access

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to the beach and Atlantic Ocean, thereby providing active and

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passive recreational opportunities for town residents. This. Also will help

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maintain the coastal dune system. If you can see on

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the aerial behind me, the village owns properties to the

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east and to the north. So by preserving this pattern,

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we are also assembling more protected area within the vicinity

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and. Building upon the existing. Coastal dune system, and it

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is very healthy, other than obviously the existing disturbance related

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to the house. The dune system is unique and very

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and contains rare species. This also is very important because

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of general state requirements and state recommendations for coastal resiliency.

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Some may have heard of coastal retreat. This also helps

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build and protect residents from further impacts from sea level

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rise or possible storm impacts as well by reducing wave

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generations during those times. So this is very helpful on

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many fronts. We're getting recreation, we're preserving coastal maritime dunes

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and also coastal resiliency strategies for the town. So we're

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in a rare opportunity where we can get this done.

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And I'm very excited to present this property to you

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today. Director Fenlin, would you. Mind just elaborating on the

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concept of coastal retreat really briefly. Yeah. So it's a

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general recommendation. Due to higher storm events and more catastrophic

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storm events. Obviously one of the most recent ones that

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was very catastrophic was Hurricane Sandy, even though that didn't

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have as much of an ocean. Impact we did see

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very high. I guess it would be like high tides

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associated in wave impact. So the general concept for coastal

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retreat is to remove any human impacts or human structures

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from that area. To allow, basically nature to help calm

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those storms, basically. And then move people out of harm's?

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Way. So basically removing elements of structural and even utilities.

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The whole concept is try to retreat. From that so

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that we don't have to. Spend millions to rebuild, possibly

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in those locations. And I would just say in terms

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of what this board, the conversation that this board has

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been having. We've been talking about ways we can target

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our CPF program to advance some of these coastal resiliency

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issues. And certainly what we're doing with the Sim project

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as well. It's exactly what we're doing and this project.

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Is not within the per se. It's a little bit

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east of it, but it's. On the east side of

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the Shunikak go canal inlet, but. It's certainly similar type

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of analysis and situation. Jackie, could you just go into

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a little bit for the future of this property? When

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we take title to it, sure. Who's being able to

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use it, what it's going to become, what's the future

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for it. Yeah. So as it's being preserved with CPF

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funds, it is. Very important. One of the aspects of

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CPF legislation and the town code is to provide public

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access. So we envision this, and this has been discussed

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with the town board that this will be an access

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in a small parking area for town residents. We have

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to work after the acquisition and the closing. We'll have

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to work on the demolition of the residents. But we

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are choosing. To facilitate the parking in the areas of

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disturbance associated with the residents and pool and accessory structures.

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So this will be available for parking for town residents,

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and then. We are going to maintain the existing walkway

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and obviously, possibly improve it with access to the beach.

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But you can see that there's already a significant walkway,

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so we would like to kind of retain that existing

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beach walkway to basically be pedestrian access to the beach

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at this location. So there would be no drive on

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access, but there would be parking, and you would be

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able to walk over to the beach. But there is

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driving, right? Alongside. Yes, there's currently Gary Max Way, which

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is formerly known as Road F, so that I'll just

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point to that. But that is currently a drive on

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beach four by four. Access. So this beach. Will be.

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You'd need to park and walk on. Yeah. So what?

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The vision is to have a parking area, a small

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parking area in the area of disturbance here, and then

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build upon the existing raised walkway that's in fairly good

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condition to allow for pedestrian access to the beach. That

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parcel next to it to the east, owned by the

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village. Is that just open space or is that used

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for beach access also? I believe it's just open space.

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But if you can see Gary Maxway, that drive on

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beach access doesn't. Quite follow the road right of way,

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but right now, and I don't think I talked to

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mayor manger. There's no intent for any additional improvements in

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alloc. Allocation. So currently it is just passively open space

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and preserved area. I don't have, like, the deed, binding

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deed information on that, but I can get that. For

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you, if you'd like. But any plans would be.

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Brought to back to us so we can show the

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public. Yeah. First phase is to formally acquire it. Get

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this on as a public CPF acquisition and. Then next.

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We'll have to gain multiple estimates and put it out

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to bid for the demolition of the structure. But I

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think what is well suited is we'll be removing the

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environmental impacts of the residents. And then with that disturbance

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area, we'll be able to utilize that for a small

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parking area. So we'll work on the design with the

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town board, and then we can. Always obviously have a

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public work session once those plans have been finalized, and

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it's absolutely worth noting that this would be the only

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town beach. In the Southampton village area. And that was

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something that the town board wanted to make available for

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town residents because it's village residence only in the vicinity.

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So to give additional access to town residents in this

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location, which I would say would be very beneficial also

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for members of the Shinococc nation. All right. Then let's

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take some cards. We have several on this topic. Don't

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go anywhere. Jackie. Thank you, Jackie. First speaker is Tim

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Corwin, and after Tim is Donna Bennett. My name is

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Tim Corwin. I'm a resident of Southampton town. I live

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in the North Sea area. For those that don't know

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me, I have been involved with conservation pretty much all

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of my life. And for the last ten years or

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so, my real push has been Southampton's trail. Trails. I'm

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a member of the Southampton Trails Advisory Board. I'm on

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the board of Southampton Trails preservation society. And I'm also.

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The volunteer in charge of maintaining all 350 miles of

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hiking trails in south Hippton town and if anybody would

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like to volunteer to help me, I'm always used to

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help. Find my contact information on southamptontrails.org website. All right?

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Love to hear from you. Either call or text. I

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just like to say I'm really excited about this. Having

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grown up in Southampton. As a kid. I grew up

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in the village. We always used to go to coopers.

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That was the place to be. Now, unless you have

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the ability to have a village permit, which is $600.

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If you don't have some kind of n, you can't

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go to. Southampton village beaches. This will be for the

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village and for the town, so it's really. Really exciting

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to see. And I'm very impressed that the whole board

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is behind this. I'm also impressed that we have the

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money to do it, and basically it is a gift

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from the rich people that were able to do this.

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So I just like to say, let's go for it.

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Thank you, Tim. From all the residents that pay transfer

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tax. But yes, and we're very fortunate to have the

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fund to be able to do this. The jana bennett

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and after donna stephanie mcnamar. Hi. I'm Donna Bennett. I'm

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sorry for the glasses, but I'm light. Sensitive. I want

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to say thank you. This is the first time I

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feel like you guys have been really trying to find

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a way to do something for us here. I mean,

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I love that. Beach. I also know how overcrowded it

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is, so I. Want to say thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you. However. Every time Miss Fenlin brought up the

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parking lot that will be there, the word small was.

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In front of it. So I want to ask you

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because. Southampton town goes all the way to the other

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side of West Hampton. There's no other. Beach. Anywhere but

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here in Southampton village, where you drive on. Can we

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please? Try and find another gift, if that's what Tim

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wants to call it, from the rich. People over on

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the other side of the canal. Because all the screaming

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that the people do about all the people that are

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down there on that beach. Never consider the fact that

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a lot of them come from the other side of

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the canal. I want to ask you to please consider

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this is the best thing you've done for the locals

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in this community that I can remember. I was born

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and raised here. I love this town. I'm tired of

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feeling like they're pushing us out, and this is the

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first time. I actually feel good. All of you together.

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Bravo. It's about time. And this is about. The locals,

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so please. Try and understand that Southampton goes all the

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way to the other side of Wayne Scott, too. We

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need more. Open park, beaches. Where town residents can go

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because there's quite a number in the village. Each village

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you go to. We always cater to that. But those

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of us that have grown up. Forever in the town

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are asking you please don't stop here. One last thing.

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I can't say. Mr. Pell. You and Mr. Iselli last

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year. Told me you were working on the garbage bags.

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It's been a long time in the bag still suck.

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But we got your beach. We got your beach. All

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right. Stephanie McNamara. And after Stephanie is Christopher Sargent. Hi.

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Madam Supreme Town Board. Thank you. My name is Stephanie

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McNamarma, resident of Southampton. My family and I would like

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to express our full support of this CPF purchase at

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1950. Metal Lane. This was the first house built on

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that stretch of drive on beach and therefore significance. To

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secure and continued four by four beach access. For local

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town residents is greatly appreciated. What is needed at Gary

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Maxway is the parking area. For four by four vehicles

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when the plovers prevent us from accessing our drive on

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beach I'm hopeful the town will provide resident only. No

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nonresident, no day passes. Ideally four by four stickers. In

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other words, a simple parking area so that. We can

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access Gary, Maxwave and the clovers are present. We've been

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prohibited from. Use use of this speech for far too

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many years. This purchase will allow us once again to

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enjoy access to our beloved beach while allowing the provovers

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to nest. The village has only allowed those able to

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purchase village stickers at a cost of some $300 to

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park at Road G, a price unattainable for many locals

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who use the drive on beach. Each year we have

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had to request the special clover parking exemption resolution for

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road G for the village. Therefore, we implore you to

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make this property a simple parking area for. Town residents

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to use. During the clover shutdown. Once again, this is

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a monumentally positive CPF purchase, for which we give offeral

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support and gratitude. After listening to. I'm sorry, Jackie. After

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having written this, I do have a little bit of

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a concern. As you are well aware, we have been

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struggling to maintain our four x four access to the

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beach for probably close to ten years now. And prior

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to that, starting with this house, a long time ago.

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So while I understand that the whole idea of this

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is to give town access, if you could please consider.

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It sounds, from what Jackie was saying, that now this

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might reduce our four by four access and that's very

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concerning, because if you're going to make this property here,

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Town. And I thought I heard something about not driving

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on that area. So perhaps the compromise to that situation

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would be since this is all open space, you can't.

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Drive past here. Maybe. If you're going to open it

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for town, walk on. Other than during clover season. That

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perhaps that could be the designated area. That's access. And

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then leave the four by four stipulation where it is

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from row g all the way to the Shunnekok. County

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park, so. It's concerning that we could be reducing four

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by four. And I hope and pray that that's not

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the case, but I do fully support. The purchase. 30

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seconds. I just wanted to clarify that it's not our

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plan to shut. Down the four by four, as you

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said. This parking area would be open for Southampton Town

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residents throughout the season, just like any other town. Beach

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is. As you stated, people could do, knowing that when

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you go over, that's drive on beach. They are free

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to walk to the left, to that village in front

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of that village property which as you know, the four

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x fours are not allowed there, and they can enjoy

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the beach of the pedestrian, so I think there's room

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to cohabitate. I think we did this. I was trying

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to get another beach open for drive on. In Hampton

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Bays. It was next to an existing it was right

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next to hot dog beach at the end of Triton

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Lane. We deemed it was the people that utilize hot

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dog beach have historically used it as a pedestrian only

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beach, and they fought against, even though they loved the

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idea. Of having another drive on, to have it there

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so close in proximity they didn't want it, but. This

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historically is the other side of the coin, right? This

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is historically the drive on beach we are all aware

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of that, and it would remain so, and they would

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have to go to the left as a pedestrian or.

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As you know, there's people come down when we're driving

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on and they cohabitate very beautifully. And just as the

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village does, where they make, say, Dune beach, the only

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resident beach, if you could please consider making this resident

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only. No day passes, no non resident. Agreed. This is

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something that we need because we have been denied access

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to our beach for the better part of ten years.

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Now because of the clover. So in order for us

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to cohabitate with the clovers, and. Be respectful of that.

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This is a great plan, and I'm hopeful that this

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is going to solve our problem and we won't have

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to walk as far on road g it's quite a

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hike. It was a little, Gary Maxwell is a little

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bit smaller, but again, from my family. This is a

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blessing because. When that first house was built, which is

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this one. Three minutes. Thank you so much. We are

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trying to figure that out. About the day passes. No

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day passes. Just for the residents only. Because this way,

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you don't need to have somebody there checking stickers either.

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You don't. Need. What do you call one of the

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ticket takers or whatever, just keep it simple. Just keep

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it simple. Maybe portal life would be great. And beyond

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that, keep it simple. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Christopher

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Sargent. All right. Thank you, Chris. I think I'm a

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town resident, not a village resident. I first came to

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this era in 2002, so I was one of the

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early victims of the CPF. And whilst people have spoken

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about some of the benefits that they see from this

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proposal, the thing that I want to point you guys

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to is. This is not what was talked about when

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the CPF was first introduced. What I remember being talked

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about was what we were trying to do was to

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stop over development of the area. So the idea was

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that the CPF could go out and buy farmland, stop

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it being developed, have less properties in the area, we

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would all benefit. And when it was explained to me

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at the time, I thought, well, I don't know. About

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that. But perhaps it'll work. And perhaps it has. I

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understand the town's bought a large amount of acreage, and

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maybe that has been worthwhile. I don't. Know, but once

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you start doing things like buying the lobster in and

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buying a supposedly decent restaurant, and basically shutting it down,

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creating a load of derelict outbuildings, clearly. We've gone off

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scripts and I do not believe for a minute that

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that's. What the CPF was originally intended to do, and

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nor is it what it's intended. To do now. And

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I think we've got the same situation here, and I

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think you really need to look at this and say,

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do we want to be the people who are buying?

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Oceanfront mansions from billionaires and knocking them down with taxpayer

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money. I mean, how's that going to look in the

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New York Post? This is what you've got to think

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about. And whilst I understand some of the benefits that

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people are talking about. I think you've got to try

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and find other ways of doing this, because if this

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is truly the best thing you can do with CPF

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money, you need to shut the CPF down. So I'm

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just going to say that I 1000% want to be

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the person. No. You're finished talking, sir. I'm not having

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a conversation. I'm just making. A point. And my point

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is that I 1000% want to be the person that

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uses CPF. To restore access that was lost to development

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in the past. When I first. Bought Oceanfront property to

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the board. I went to Fredfield. Next. Fred, can CPF

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buy? Property along the ocean. For people, for access, for

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people to use. And Fred said, yes, 100%. That's what

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it's for. It's a gift back from the wealthy people.

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For the local people, and it gives access. That's what

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CPF is all about, access. And preserving property. If it

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doesn't matter if it's on the ocean. Or. It's a

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farm in Bridge Hampton where we just paid $40 million

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for with one. House. We tear the house down, and

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you have 40 acres or 50 acres out there. Okay,

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how many people are actually going to use that you

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drive by, but. This beach. My kids are going to

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use it. My grandkids are going to use it. Jackie's

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kids are going to use it, and her grandkids are

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going to use it. Okay? And that's what it's all

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about. Us. Helping this town survive if we don't have

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access to the ocean? For the people who come and

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visit. How many people? Do you live on metal lane?

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No. You don't live automotive, you live up. So how

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are you going to go to the beach if it's

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finally closed off? Okay, you can't and that's what we

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have to do. I just want to add. Preserving access

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to the waterways. And the beaches. It's critical responsibility, in

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particular of the trustees, and I want to commend Councilman

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Powell for really taking the leadership on this particular issue.

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From the get go and helping to work with CPF.

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And Jackie and Dan, thank you for your coordination with

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us because the preservation of properties like this are going

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to last generations. Thank you for your team. I took

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some guff from a piece of property we bought on

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Shore Road. Access. We're going to tear the house down.

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I'll leave the house up. Who? Knows. Okay, but that

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gives that neighborhood access to that creek, and if I

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can do it in. Every neighborhood where there's a creek

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or a pond, give those people access. And the whole

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town access to that area. To use that waterway, it's

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a great thing. It doesn't matter. If you're just going

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down to have a sandwich, what Mr. Holden used to

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do. The old survey. He's quite old. He used to

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come down and have a sandwich. Peanut butter jelly sandwich.

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Conscious point. I used to see him down there. Or

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he's a stand up board or go swimming or go

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fishing. Or put a boat in the water. It's the

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right of people of this town to use the water.

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And if. You cannot. Get to it because we did

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not take the opportunity to buy a property in that

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neighborhood to give the access. Jackie. I want to buy

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more property on the water. Get all you can. Well,

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I don't have any more cards on this public hearing,

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but. Peter. Andrew. Is there anyone on Zoom? You got

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one person. All right. Bring them on.

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Okay. Hi, I'm Alex King, chief of Southampton Village Ocean

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rescue, and I wanted to say. That we are fully

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in support of the acquisition of the Medalayan property. This.

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Expanding the parking for beach access. Will significantly increase public

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use and will magnify the need for our ocean rescue,

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life saving services. I would like to take this opportunity.

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To express our interest in expanding our ocean rescue services

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throughout the township of Southampton. Our jurisdiction right now is

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currently limited to the village of Southampton. To reiterate, we

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are. Fully volunteer first responders. Our dedicated team is made

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up of certified ocean lifeguards on call 24 7365 days

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a year, dispatch through 911. The fact that being on

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call, we patrolled during high ripped current times. We lifeguard

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charity ocean. We certified over 50 lifeguards this summer. We

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had. 75 children. In our junior lifeguard program. We have

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an adult swim program. We have a swim program. For

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young adults with on the autism spectrum. And this coming

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season, we have our program to learn to swim program.

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For families on the reservation. Our mission has always been

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to prevent drownings and to protect lives and support the

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community whenever and wherever we're needed. We have heard the

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public outcry for more ocean rescue throughout Southampton, and we

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want to say that we want to be here for

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you. Our volunteer services. Let me say that again. Our

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volunteer services minimally impact taxpayers. I hope that we can

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set up a work session with supervisor Moore and the

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council as soon as possible. So we can discuss. The

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growing need for ocean rescue life services throughout the township

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at unguarded beaches and find a solution that benefits the

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entire community. The East Hampton Ocean rescue first response team

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has had a long time proven track record of saving

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lives. There's no price you can put on safety. Southampton

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town deserves to have ocean rescue at their disposal. Thank

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you for your time. Thank you. Thank you. Sure. Yeah.

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Carl, you have some comments? Carl benicas. I'm the attorney

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for the current owner and seller. I just want to

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again reiterate, thanks to Jackie and Dan for their professionalism

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as we worked on terms that were agreeable to all

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sides of this transaction. Speaking for the seller and her

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family, her children and her grandchildren, I can say this

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parcel was incredibly important to them as a family, and

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they are very excited to see the future of this.

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Parcel as being one used and enjoyed by the public

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both for conservation and for. Both. As the representative for

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the applicant and as a member of this community, I

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wanted to thank the board for this acquisition. Thank you

471
00:30:29,065 --> 00:30:32,560
very much. Thank you. And the best part about it,

472
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,560
if they have sold it to another wealthy person to

473
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,604
tear down and build a bigger house. Their kids could

474
00:30:38,604 --> 00:30:41,244
never come back and use the beach. Now their grandkids

475
00:30:41,244 --> 00:30:43,644
could come back. And say, this is where my grandparents,

476
00:30:43,644 --> 00:30:47,665
my great grandparents grew up. Absolutely. And that has actually

477
00:30:47,665 --> 00:30:51,732
been discussed by them. We talked about that. I just

478
00:30:51,732 --> 00:30:54,172
wanted to let the other people know. Okay. Well, thank

479
00:30:54,172 --> 00:30:57,967
you. Thank you. Participation in helping us to put this

480
00:30:57,967 --> 00:30:59,847
together. Of course. It was a pleasure. Thank you. Thank

481
00:30:59,847 --> 00:31:05,068
you. No other comments. Then I moved to close the

482
00:31:05,068 --> 00:31:11,611
public hearing. Second. All in favor? Aye. Very good. Thank

483
00:31:11,611 --> 00:31:11,651
you.

484
00:31:45,616 --> 00:31:54,434
Joe is trying to get out. Yeah. What?

485
00:32:03,853 --> 00:32:06,813
's continue. Madam Clerk, would you please read the notice

486
00:32:06,813 --> 00:32:10,213
for the second public hearing? Public hearing? Number two to

487
00:32:10,213 --> 00:32:14,653
amend Town code chapter 312, vehicles and traffic, article 15,

488
00:32:14,653 --> 00:32:24,381
turning movements, section 312 72.2. Right. Turns prohibited.

489
00:32:25,959 --> 00:32:33,019
Who's here to talk to us about this one. Our

490
00:32:33,019 --> 00:32:39,740
highway superintendent. Good afternoon. Thank you. Tomboy. Tom Nealy. Welcome

491
00:32:39,740 --> 00:32:42,900
aboard. Thank you. My name is Charlie McCall. The highway

492
00:32:42,900 --> 00:32:52,867
superintendent. Here to talk about public hearing on a town

493
00:32:52,867 --> 00:32:55,874
code. I want to start off with just a few

494
00:32:55,874 --> 00:32:57,314
things I have in front of me right now. Is

495
00:32:57,314 --> 00:33:03,237
the final draft of the traffic mitigation. Task force, which

496
00:33:03,237 --> 00:33:05,157
most of you know. Me and Tom Neely were the

497
00:33:05,157 --> 00:33:09,197
co chairmans of. That this was the brainstorm brainchild of

498
00:33:09,197 --> 00:33:12,397
Michael Icilli, and I have to give him credit, he

499
00:33:12,397 --> 00:33:14,477
put together what I would call pretty much an all

500
00:33:14,477 --> 00:33:20,822
star team of people on the board. From. State, county,

501
00:33:20,822 --> 00:33:25,859
town and village lawmakers. To police chief from the town,

502
00:33:25,859 --> 00:33:30,636
police chief from the village. To Department of Transportation commissioner

503
00:33:30,636 --> 00:33:36,695
myself and several other people, including Maria Moore. Let me

504
00:33:36,695 --> 00:33:39,954
just read a few things from the report. If I

505
00:33:39,954 --> 00:33:43,596
could. In the introduction. Just a brief thing. The task

506
00:33:43,596 --> 00:33:46,716
force was not merely intended to provide an examination. Of

507
00:33:46,716 --> 00:33:51,436
the underlying causes of these traffic related issues and solutions,

508
00:33:51,436 --> 00:33:54,596
but also to enact the bottom up approach to its

509
00:33:54,596 --> 00:34:00,284
functionality, directed through public. Comments and concerns. The scope of

510
00:34:00,284 --> 00:34:03,604
the task force work included, but not limited to the

511
00:34:03,604 --> 00:34:09,586
analysis of current traffic patterns. Infrastructure limitations. And the efficiency

512
00:34:09,586 --> 00:34:13,946
of existing traffic enforcement measures. Ultimately, the task force goal

513
00:34:13,946 --> 00:34:17,986
was to identify the issues and formulate a spin and

514
00:34:17,986 --> 00:34:22,066
variable solutions that could mitigate the problems faced by residents,

515
00:34:22,066 --> 00:34:28,029
ensuring safer and more efficient. Roadways throughout the entire community.

516
00:34:28,029 --> 00:34:31,949
The task force would identify and examine known heavy traffic

517
00:34:31,949 --> 00:34:38,247
corridors. County Road 39. Whether primary or secondary roadways. Collect

518
00:34:38,247 --> 00:34:42,047
information from the public, collaborate with town highway public safety

519
00:34:42,047 --> 00:34:47,579
law enforcement town engineering departments regarding potential solutions. As the

520
00:34:47,579 --> 00:34:51,379
report continues. In the conclusion, it says, the Traffic Mitigation

521
00:34:51,379 --> 00:34:56,699
Safety Task Force embarked on the comprehensive, multifought faced investigation

522
00:34:56,699 --> 00:35:01,499
into the complex traffic challenges that impact Southampton town. This

523
00:35:01,499 --> 00:35:07,487
involves the process of data analysis. Composing traffic flow patterns,

524
00:35:07,487 --> 00:35:14,430
crash statistics, and infrastructure capabilities. Today. And that brings us

525
00:35:14,430 --> 00:35:20,729
why we're here today. Part of the afternoon traffic. Pattern

526
00:35:20,729 --> 00:35:24,849
that we've changed includes some changes, some add ons. Today

527
00:35:24,849 --> 00:35:27,409
we have the turns on Henry road and Tucker Hole

528
00:35:27,409 --> 00:35:31,681
lane. And quite honestly, even if. We didn't have this

529
00:35:31,681 --> 00:35:34,601
new traffic pattern in place. Those two restrictions should have

530
00:35:34,601 --> 00:35:37,881
been in. Place years ago. They're both dangerous. Turns to

531
00:35:37,881 --> 00:35:42,094
come out onto 39 in the afternoon. Is very dangerous.

532
00:35:42,094 --> 00:35:45,671
Now. You probably will hear some from people. That live

533
00:35:45,671 --> 00:35:48,791
locally that might be opposed to the changes because it's

534
00:35:48,791 --> 00:35:52,443
an inconvenience. They have to drive around to add a

535
00:35:52,443 --> 00:35:54,763
few minutes to their time, but I'd like the board

536
00:35:54,763 --> 00:35:58,693
to consider these changes. And think about the greater good

537
00:35:58,693 --> 00:36:03,094
of what we're doing out there. Thank you. Thank you.

538
00:36:08,924 --> 00:36:11,164
All right, well, I do have one card on this

539
00:36:11,164 --> 00:36:11,844
Rachel Verno.

540
00:36:21,741 --> 00:36:28,224
Good afternoon, everybody. Rachel Burnout. I'm speaking as a resident.

541
00:36:29,851 --> 00:36:32,628
Not as the sheriff. Today. Although I would like to

542
00:36:32,628 --> 00:36:34,388
say on behalf of our CAC, thank you to the

543
00:36:34,388 --> 00:36:38,148
supervisor. And councilman Neely and Janice, for all attending our

544
00:36:38,148 --> 00:36:41,309
meeting yesterday. I think it was a great meeting. And

545
00:36:41,309 --> 00:36:45,024
I know everyone. On our committee appreciated it, and I'm

546
00:36:45,024 --> 00:36:47,184
looking forward to the other board members coming to some

547
00:36:47,184 --> 00:36:50,460
of our meetings this year. So I was a member

548
00:36:50,460 --> 00:36:53,380
of the Towns County Road 39 Land Use committee back

549
00:36:53,380 --> 00:36:58,479
in 2014, and I reckon the. Benefits of the highway

550
00:36:58,479 --> 00:37:03,453
superintendent just mentioned. Of reducing curb cuts onto the highway,

551
00:37:03,453 --> 00:37:05,373
as well as the importance of getting motorists to use

552
00:37:05,373 --> 00:37:07,373
a light in order to safely make turns onto the

553
00:37:07,373 --> 00:37:11,330
highway. I also understand why the town is considering limiting

554
00:37:11,330 --> 00:37:13,730
access off of Henry and Tucker. Hoe onto County Road

555
00:37:13,730 --> 00:37:16,370
39. But I would ask the board to share the

556
00:37:16,370 --> 00:37:19,530
data connected to the pilot programs. That support these closures.

557
00:37:20,973 --> 00:37:23,613
Specifically how much time is saved on County Road 39

558
00:37:23,613 --> 00:37:26,333
when access from these streets is limited. Where are the

559
00:37:26,333 --> 00:37:29,613
vehicles that have been taking these roads redirected to? Are

560
00:37:29,613 --> 00:37:32,573
these closures creating backups on other roads. And does there

561
00:37:32,573 --> 00:37:34,813
need to be adjustments made to lights at north C?

562
00:37:34,813 --> 00:37:38,613
And McGay. Currently, there are so many varying opinions regarding

563
00:37:38,613 --> 00:37:41,610
the pilot program on county road 39. I think it's

564
00:37:41,610 --> 00:37:43,850
important to have all the data connected to these road

565
00:37:43,850 --> 00:37:46,890
closures provided. And I'm asking the board to make that

566
00:37:46,890 --> 00:37:50,825
information available to the public. I'll mention that the town

567
00:37:50,825 --> 00:37:54,625
has an access management plan for County Road 39. That

568
00:37:54,625 --> 00:37:58,025
makes a very different recommendation for Tukalo Holain. So even

569
00:37:58,025 --> 00:38:00,585
more reason to have any of this new data made

570
00:38:00,585 --> 00:38:04,653
available. If the road closures aren't data driven, I'd ask

571
00:38:04,653 --> 00:38:07,693
the board if they. Could explain the criteria being used

572
00:38:07,693 --> 00:38:10,618
for these type of road closures. What exactly are the

573
00:38:10,618 --> 00:38:13,218
benchmarks that needs to be met in order to trigger

574
00:38:13,218 --> 00:38:17,378
a decision to close a public road. Lastly, I'd ask

575
00:38:17,378 --> 00:38:21,098
the board if they could explain the methodology and. Cost

576
00:38:21,098 --> 00:38:24,778
for implementing and enforcing all of these road closures. Over

577
00:38:24,778 --> 00:38:27,498
the summer, the highway department had someone stationed at the

578
00:38:27,498 --> 00:38:30,875
entrance to Diamond Court from 06:00 a.m. to ten. 30

579
00:38:30,875 --> 00:38:33,335
a. M. On a regular basis. Is this the same

580
00:38:33,335 --> 00:38:36,135
methodology going to be used for the afternoon closures on

581
00:38:36,135 --> 00:38:40,575
Henry and Tuckaho? I appreciate that. The resolution states there's

582
00:38:40,575 --> 00:38:44,632
no financial impact for these closures. You're not contracting McClain

583
00:38:44,632 --> 00:38:47,872
to reengineer these roads, but I'm. Assuming there's a cost

584
00:38:47,872 --> 00:38:51,592
associated with these closures in terms of manpower, I hope

585
00:38:51,592 --> 00:38:53,512
the board will consider sharing how much was spent in

586
00:38:53,512 --> 00:38:57,432
2025 for these road closures and what the projected costs

587
00:38:57,432 --> 00:39:01,192
will be going forward in 2026. As always, I thank

588
00:39:01,192 --> 00:39:03,232
you for the opportunity. To speak this afternoon, and I

589
00:39:03,232 --> 00:39:06,925
look forward to getting. Any of that information. Thanks. Thank

590
00:39:06,925 --> 00:39:10,480
you. Peter. Andrew. Is there anyone on zoom for the

591
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:19,416
second public hearing? No one has their hand up. Superintendent

592
00:39:19,416 --> 00:39:22,896
McCarthy. I just had one question about the lights, if

593
00:39:22,896 --> 00:39:28,132
you don't mind coming back. Up. Well, I know I'd

594
00:39:28,132 --> 00:39:33,344
like to support what your idea is because. This is.

595
00:39:34,739 --> 00:39:37,459
A big risk that you were taking to try to

596
00:39:37,459 --> 00:39:42,102
make a change. For the better and. If you need

597
00:39:42,102 --> 00:39:45,668
a few more pieces to fall into place. I support

598
00:39:45,668 --> 00:39:48,668
that. Is there something, though, about the lights? The flashing

599
00:39:48,668 --> 00:39:54,330
or blinking lights? As Rachel just mentioned. I'm not exactly

600
00:39:54,330 --> 00:39:59,734
sure what she was referring to. McGee street and Tukaho

601
00:39:59,734 --> 00:40:03,294
Road. We had asked the county to put those lights

602
00:40:03,294 --> 00:40:08,684
in a position where. They are the longest possible in

603
00:40:08,684 --> 00:40:13,524
Green on County Road 39. Timing the timing and how

604
00:40:13,524 --> 00:40:18,387
long they are green. Not sure why, but they have

605
00:40:18,387 --> 00:40:21,467
been struggling with that Tucker ho road is set perfectly,

606
00:40:21,467 --> 00:40:23,867
I think. It's at four minutes, which seems like a

607
00:40:23,867 --> 00:40:28,347
lifetime if you're not in the green. McGee street has

608
00:40:28,347 --> 00:40:31,707
changed from two minutes to three minutes to two minutes,

609
00:40:31,707 --> 00:40:33,267
so we're trying. To get a handle on McGee Street.

610
00:40:35,024 --> 00:40:38,118
But the reason why we're asking. For this town code

611
00:40:38,118 --> 00:40:41,078
to be put in places so we don't have to

612
00:40:41,078 --> 00:40:46,279
extend manpower. To physically block these roads. If people adhere

613
00:40:46,279 --> 00:40:48,719
to the town code, then nobody will be making that

614
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,919
right turn, which causes the traffic on 39 to back

615
00:40:51,919 --> 00:40:55,839
up. The goal has always been we'll continue to be,

616
00:40:55,839 --> 00:40:59,199
to get people on county road 39. And again I

617
00:40:59,199 --> 00:41:03,479
fight gps all day long. You save 1 second. You're

618
00:41:03,479 --> 00:41:05,942
going to go down a side street. Because people are

619
00:41:05,942 --> 00:41:09,234
so in tune to the GPs. But the goal is

620
00:41:09,234 --> 00:41:11,434
to keep them on County Road 39, and if we

621
00:41:11,434 --> 00:41:15,474
could prevent any backup. By people entering 39 at certain

622
00:41:15,474 --> 00:41:18,509
locations. We will do that. Can I have a question?

623
00:41:20,556 --> 00:41:23,316
Rather than do a timed right term restriction on Tucker

624
00:41:23,316 --> 00:41:26,276
Hoe, would it make more sense to just make it

625
00:41:26,276 --> 00:41:28,676
right turn at the light. You can't. No. Right turn

626
00:41:28,676 --> 00:41:34,061
on red, period. At Tucko Road. Tucker Ho road. Well,

627
00:41:34,061 --> 00:41:36,421
people need to cross to go from the college to.

628
00:41:36,421 --> 00:41:38,261
The golf course. That's what I mean. You could still

629
00:41:38,261 --> 00:41:40,541
have a right turn, but only. What? The lights. So

630
00:41:40,541 --> 00:41:44,101
just make it no. Right on red. The right turn

631
00:41:44,101 --> 00:41:46,421
at Taco Road. To be honest, Malkin, maybe back me

632
00:41:46,421 --> 00:41:49,061
up on this. By then. The traffic is moving pretty

633
00:41:49,061 --> 00:41:51,501
good, so you are taking your life into your hands,

634
00:41:51,501 --> 00:41:53,061
but. You can make a right, and I don't think.

635
00:41:55,270 --> 00:41:58,409
It really. Causes traffic to back up when you have

636
00:41:58,409 --> 00:42:02,289
that line of people cheating that come from the north.

637
00:42:02,289 --> 00:42:04,009
And they end up on Tucker Hole Lane. And they're

638
00:42:04,009 --> 00:42:06,009
lined up and only it's. A one for one to

639
00:42:06,009 --> 00:42:09,489
come out. It backs up 39 and we can't recover.

640
00:42:09,489 --> 00:42:12,449
So again, these are pilot programs. We're asking to put

641
00:42:12,449 --> 00:42:16,290
them in place and would take a good look. It

642
00:42:16,290 --> 00:42:18,650
may also be worth mentioning, Charlie, that there's a lot

643
00:42:18,650 --> 00:42:22,570
of ongoing discussions about what you're doing as a pilot

644
00:42:22,570 --> 00:42:25,810
for the short term here on 39 with also the

645
00:42:25,810 --> 00:42:31,459
village. And some of their engineers. We are in daily

646
00:42:31,459 --> 00:42:34,896
conversation with the village, and again. They get better. We

647
00:42:34,896 --> 00:42:37,856
do. On 39. The village gets the benefit because there's

648
00:42:37,856 --> 00:42:41,151
less people. Cutting through the village. But they are in

649
00:42:41,151 --> 00:42:42,751
favor of it. We did a lot of work. Mock

650
00:42:42,751 --> 00:42:45,111
did a lot of work on McGee street. They made

651
00:42:45,111 --> 00:42:48,591
a turning lane that is now extends for a couple

652
00:42:48,591 --> 00:42:51,431
of hundred. Feet. People can get in that turning lane.

653
00:42:53,554 --> 00:42:55,714
And can get onto 39 as quick as possible. But

654
00:42:55,714 --> 00:42:57,914
again, the timing of the lights is important. And just

655
00:42:57,914 --> 00:43:01,093
get back to the comments. This is to make it

656
00:43:01,093 --> 00:43:04,163
so we have less manpower. If these restrictions are in

657
00:43:04,163 --> 00:43:07,705
place, we don't have to physically be there. I just

658
00:43:07,705 --> 00:43:10,345
got it. It's not so that people can't make a

659
00:43:10,345 --> 00:43:12,625
right one. It's to that they don't even go down

660
00:43:12,625 --> 00:43:15,505
that road during three and seven. Well, it would be

661
00:43:15,505 --> 00:43:20,245
almost impossible to go east from there. I think. If

662
00:43:20,245 --> 00:43:24,293
I can jump in. To Charlie's point and to this

663
00:43:24,293 --> 00:43:29,131
request. Right turns onto a road, or more dramatically, left

664
00:43:29,131 --> 00:43:34,563
turns onto a road, create friction. They slow the other

665
00:43:34,563 --> 00:43:36,763
cars down. I mean, there has been a lot of.

666
00:43:38,820 --> 00:43:40,780
20 years, we've been wrestling with what to do about

667
00:43:40,780 --> 00:43:44,606
County Road 39. There have been restrictions. For example, there's

668
00:43:44,606 --> 00:43:48,646
been discussion of restrictions on Hill station road. No. Right

669
00:43:48,646 --> 00:43:51,206
turn coming east in the morning. We don't really talk

670
00:43:51,206 --> 00:43:54,446
about the mornings anymore. We're focused on this afternoon. Westbound.

671
00:43:55,953 --> 00:43:59,153
But I think to Charlie's point, and the request here

672
00:43:59,153 --> 00:44:04,143
is. Right turns coming out, coming south, making the right.

673
00:44:04,143 --> 00:44:08,103
You're creating more friction on 39 and. I think that's

674
00:44:08,103 --> 00:44:11,753
the point. Of trying to eliminate more of the word

675
00:44:11,753 --> 00:44:14,913
friction. Engineering term. You're making more people slow. Down. I

676
00:44:14,913 --> 00:44:19,479
think you can debate. It's already congested. How much worse

677
00:44:19,479 --> 00:44:21,959
is it having to make the right that's? Again, debatable.

678
00:44:23,437 --> 00:44:25,717
If someone does not obey the law, they would have

679
00:44:25,717 --> 00:44:29,581
to be pulled over on County Road 39. Which. Takes

680
00:44:29,581 --> 00:44:33,021
the bad situation and makes it worse. So there are

681
00:44:33,021 --> 00:44:35,661
issues here, but in light of the fact that I

682
00:44:35,661 --> 00:44:38,804
think. We're still talking about this as a pilot program.

683
00:44:40,304 --> 00:44:42,584
Maybe sitting down in a month or so since the

684
00:44:42,584 --> 00:44:46,482
chainslers were made, what, November 12? I know it's been

685
00:44:46,482 --> 00:44:49,442
tweaked on and off in different ways over the past

686
00:44:49,442 --> 00:44:52,450
three months or whatever it is. I think in the

687
00:44:52,450 --> 00:44:56,857
spirit of trying one more thing. To see if this

688
00:44:56,857 --> 00:45:00,782
might help. In that sense, I think it makes sense

689
00:45:00,782 --> 00:45:03,462
it may be something that stays permanently regardless of what

690
00:45:03,462 --> 00:45:08,078
happens, but my thought is in a month. Because we're

691
00:45:08,078 --> 00:45:11,422
in January. We're going to be getting to march and

692
00:45:11,422 --> 00:45:14,102
April and May and not too long. I think in

693
00:45:14,102 --> 00:45:16,262
a month or something, we have to sit down and

694
00:45:16,262 --> 00:45:22,536
say, have these adjustments. Are they working? To Rachel's points.

695
00:45:22,536 --> 00:45:24,376
I think you ask a lot of good questions. We

696
00:45:24,376 --> 00:45:27,136
can't. Answer them all here today, but I think there

697
00:45:27,136 --> 00:45:30,256
are a lot of good questions that we do. Have

698
00:45:30,256 --> 00:45:32,976
to discuss further and wrestle with a little bit. But

699
00:45:32,976 --> 00:45:35,496
to the immediate issue, I think in the spirit of

700
00:45:35,496 --> 00:45:40,224
trying. To one more arrow in the quiver or whatever

701
00:45:40,224 --> 00:45:42,464
to try to give you something that you think will

702
00:45:42,464 --> 00:45:47,193
help under this situation, I would say. Let's give it

703
00:45:47,193 --> 00:45:51,811
a shot. Appreciate it. Where my question actually comes from.

704
00:45:54,009 --> 00:45:57,051
Is personal use of that road. And we had generally.

705
00:45:58,947 --> 00:46:03,147
When I ran the lawn accounts, we had accounts west

706
00:46:03,147 --> 00:46:05,987
of Tuckerhoe Road. We would go back. To taco road

707
00:46:05,987 --> 00:46:08,027
with the truck and trailer to make a right with

708
00:46:08,027 --> 00:46:11,067
the light rather than trying to make that right off

709
00:46:11,067 --> 00:46:13,827
of because it was just horrendous to make that. Right

710
00:46:13,827 --> 00:46:17,625
with the trailer. Michael had emailed me. And I think

711
00:46:17,625 --> 00:46:19,905
it was Tom's idea about trying to get some of

712
00:46:19,905 --> 00:46:23,505
these roots into the website, the changes. Now, you know,

713
00:46:23,505 --> 00:46:28,665
at Tukaho Lane, it's just as easy. To if you

714
00:46:28,665 --> 00:46:29,945
want it to go west. Believe it or not, you

715
00:46:29,945 --> 00:46:32,545
could just as easily go. Past the school and merge

716
00:46:32,545 --> 00:46:36,709
on to Sandy Hollow. And now. You're in traffic and

717
00:46:36,709 --> 00:46:39,109
you're going west again. You don't have to. Make that

718
00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:42,349
dangerous turn. Or you can actually go further. I know

719
00:46:42,349 --> 00:46:45,629
people don't like us. Directing people down Sabanic. But you

720
00:46:45,629 --> 00:46:48,269
can go down sabonic to get out down. Below. Well,

721
00:46:48,269 --> 00:46:52,789
no. We would be past taco on Sabah. It would

722
00:46:52,789 --> 00:46:54,909
be quicker for us to. Go out sabonic, but the

723
00:46:54,909 --> 00:46:58,008
turn. Is such a hard right with the trailer that

724
00:46:58,008 --> 00:47:01,840
we would go back to Tuckerhoe. At the boat showroom,

725
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,880
right? Yeah. You can't see anything. No, not the boat

726
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,220
showroom. We would go. Oh, that's where you're doing it?

727
00:47:07,220 --> 00:47:10,880
Yeah. Tuck a ho. I'm thinking the golf course road.

728
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:15,649
No. Takaholane, Taco Lane. Take everything I said and throw

729
00:47:15,649 --> 00:47:17,569
it out the window. So. Go. Lane is. I was

730
00:47:17,569 --> 00:47:21,849
talking about the light at Tucker. Hopin has. Right. I'm

731
00:47:21,849 --> 00:47:24,895
sorry. I don't know how the county let them, but

732
00:47:24,895 --> 00:47:28,215
there's a retaining wall for. That building you can't see.

733
00:47:28,215 --> 00:47:30,495
Okay, agree 1000%. Now that I know of my and

734
00:47:30,495 --> 00:47:33,215
I did speak to some of the local town cops

735
00:47:33,215 --> 00:47:35,455
and about the issue, like I try to tell them.

736
00:47:35,455 --> 00:47:38,849
Don't pull anybody over on 30,000. Not to get away

737
00:47:38,849 --> 00:47:41,689
with anything, but the quick response to that was they

738
00:47:41,689 --> 00:47:45,369
would stand in the Goldberg's driveway and just wave people

739
00:47:45,369 --> 00:47:47,129
into the driveway and take care of if they had

740
00:47:47,129 --> 00:47:50,569
to issue a ticket. What they've always said the driver

741
00:47:50,569 --> 00:47:52,649
has to make the decision or maybe the police can

742
00:47:52,649 --> 00:47:54,849
help them make the decision to get into a parking

743
00:47:54,849 --> 00:47:58,129
lot rather than stopping. On 39 again. I appreciate the

744
00:47:58,129 --> 00:48:01,779
board. 's support. Going forward? Anybody else going to rely

745
00:48:01,779 --> 00:48:04,979
on signage to accomplish this? Have you spoken with the

746
00:48:04,979 --> 00:48:07,659
chief? Maybe they can put some cars out there just

747
00:48:07,659 --> 00:48:11,704
initially to get people to make sure they. Spoke directly

748
00:48:11,704 --> 00:48:14,024
to the officer that covers that area. They said they'd

749
00:48:14,024 --> 00:48:16,824
be on it and I'm sure highway would post at

750
00:48:16,824 --> 00:48:19,144
the head of these two streets. You don't. Want them

751
00:48:19,144 --> 00:48:20,744
going down. You don't want them going down and then

752
00:48:20,744 --> 00:48:25,032
finding out, right? Anyway, thanks very much. Thank you, Charlie.

753
00:48:25,032 --> 00:48:33,728
Thank you, Charlie, for the work. All right, well, if

754
00:48:33,728 --> 00:48:36,608
there's no other questions or comments, I moved to close

755
00:48:36,608 --> 00:48:44,070
this public hearing second. All in favor? Aye. Madam Clerk,

756
00:48:44,070 --> 00:48:46,110
would you please read the notice for the third public

757
00:48:46,110 --> 00:48:50,899
hearing? Public hearing number three, amending town code chapter 312,

758
00:48:50,899 --> 00:48:56,229
vehicles and traffic, article three. Stop sign intersection section 312

759
00:48:56,229 --> 00:49:01,469
nine Eastwag, Tyana and Hampton Bay's hamlets to Shinnecock canal

760
00:49:01,469 --> 00:49:11,081
subsection a north of Montek Highway. All right. Who is

761
00:49:11,081 --> 00:49:20,334
going to speak to us about this? I thought. Your

762
00:49:20,334 --> 00:49:24,460
backup. Charlie McCaultle, highway Department pretty much what she read.

763
00:49:29,567 --> 00:49:35,544
It's needed. I do think it's important to note that

764
00:49:35,544 --> 00:49:40,144
an engineering study was done. Correct. We're talking about this

765
00:49:40,144 --> 00:49:44,184
intersection. Yeah. Valid old country. An engineering study was done

766
00:49:44,184 --> 00:49:47,984
which does so this. Intersection in particular, as we know.

767
00:49:49,843 --> 00:49:53,083
And clearly Cindy knows is the East Quag elementary school

768
00:49:53,083 --> 00:49:56,760
is right around the corner. And we asked the engineering

769
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:00,756
department to come up with. What intersection would serve best?

770
00:50:02,294 --> 00:50:04,174
To have the stop sign. And most people would be

771
00:50:04,174 --> 00:50:06,494
like, of course, the one where the school is. And

772
00:50:06,494 --> 00:50:08,134
they came up with the theory that. No, we'll go

773
00:50:08,134 --> 00:50:10,854
a little bit further. Because it's two spots where people

774
00:50:10,854 --> 00:50:12,854
will now slow down. You have the crosswalk for the

775
00:50:12,854 --> 00:50:15,454
school. And now the stop sign a little bit up.

776
00:50:15,454 --> 00:50:21,068
Unveil old country road. Has been a racetrack for many

777
00:50:21,068 --> 00:50:25,108
years, going way back, so hopefully this will just calm

778
00:50:25,108 --> 00:50:30,413
some traffic. And that's pretty much it. Looking for everybody's

779
00:50:30,413 --> 00:50:33,951
support. Yeah. Some letters on it, right? We did. We

780
00:50:33,951 --> 00:50:36,871
did get community support letters for this. There has been

781
00:50:36,871 --> 00:50:39,991
I believe we have support from the east club civic,

782
00:50:39,991 --> 00:50:43,539
the east clog Board of Education. Many community members. They

783
00:50:43,539 --> 00:50:45,139
were asking for this when I was chair of the

784
00:50:45,139 --> 00:50:48,102
CAC and. The question. You were right. The question was

785
00:50:48,102 --> 00:50:50,782
they wanted Central, but central, I think, is too close.

786
00:50:52,601 --> 00:50:55,321
To Lewis that it's not really. You're not getting enough

787
00:50:55,321 --> 00:50:58,001
speed up and sometimes. Traffic backs up through that intersection.

788
00:50:59,190 --> 00:51:02,030
You also have the parents that pick up the schools,

789
00:51:02,030 --> 00:51:04,590
the kids at school, and that backs up. Right off

790
00:51:04,590 --> 00:51:08,753
of there. The other ones on this, too. The three

791
00:51:08,753 --> 00:51:15,000
yield signs that would be different. You'll be back. Tom

792
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,040
mentioned there was an engineering report, and it indicated that

793
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,480
the stop at this intersection is reasonable. And would be

794
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:27,283
helpful. It may not solve the speeding problem because traffic

795
00:51:27,283 --> 00:51:30,683
engineering tells you that stop signs don't. Stop speeding on

796
00:51:30,683 --> 00:51:35,565
a mile and a quarter long road. But. It does

797
00:51:35,565 --> 00:51:38,205
perhaps help solve other problems. And one of the questions

798
00:51:38,205 --> 00:51:40,685
or thoughts I had looking at the study. I believe

799
00:51:40,685 --> 00:51:44,325
the sidewalks go all the way to veil. Might this

800
00:51:44,325 --> 00:51:46,285
be an appropriate place? For you folks to put in

801
00:51:46,285 --> 00:51:50,110
a crosswalk. Since it's now going to be a protected

802
00:51:50,110 --> 00:51:55,759
intersection. Something for you to evaluate, think about. We did

803
00:51:55,759 --> 00:51:57,559
it. Got a few phone calls, a lot of emails

804
00:51:57,559 --> 00:52:04,325
about this. It's a good idea. Okay. I have two

805
00:52:04,325 --> 00:52:09,761
cards on. Christine connolly. And then Christine Grant.

806
00:52:16,647 --> 00:52:19,087
I think this has broad support with everybody, I hope,

807
00:52:19,087 --> 00:52:28,974
but I made some remarks. Good afternoon, everyone. Happy New

808
00:52:29,339 --> 00:52:33,214
year. Mr. Neely, congratulations. It's fortuitous that we. Have a

809
00:52:33,219 --> 00:52:37,334
traffic issue. And thanks for your email. Absolutely. Appreciate that.

810
00:52:38,099 --> 00:52:40,214
So I'm here today. Speaking on behalf of the East

811
00:52:40,259 --> 00:52:34,574
Quag Civic and Eastwa Beautification Committee in vehemently. Supporting numerous

812
00:52:34,574 --> 00:52:37,134
anecdotal reasons that these signs would improve the quality of

813
00:52:37,134 --> 00:52:40,174
life in east Quag, including slowing traffic near our elementary

814
00:52:40,174 --> 00:52:43,814
school or making GPS navigation route traffic through our main

815
00:52:43,814 --> 00:52:46,614
street that came up. In another thing, we have a

816
00:52:46,614 --> 00:52:49,054
lot of issues with GPS. People live and die by

817
00:52:49,054 --> 00:52:52,374
it. Montauk highway has been the de facto road, but

818
00:52:52,374 --> 00:52:53,574
with GPS, people just.

819
00:53:09,128 --> 00:53:11,128
Get onto old country because it saves them 10 seconds

820
00:53:11,128 --> 00:53:16,254
or something. According to ways. But I suspect that Christine

821
00:53:16,254 --> 00:53:19,534
and others, or just us, could speak about that more

822
00:53:19,534 --> 00:53:22,934
eloquently than I could instead, because I'm a huge nerd

823
00:53:22,934 --> 00:53:24,534
and I had nothing to do this morning. I'd like

824
00:53:24,534 --> 00:53:26,734
to look at this from a scientific perspective and refer

825
00:53:26,734 --> 00:53:30,814
to the 2025 edition of the Manual on Uniform traffic

826
00:53:30,814 --> 00:53:34,134
control devices, published by the USDOT and the Federal high.

827
00:53:34,357 --> 00:53:39,367
Highway administration. So, interestingly enough, the manual, right. It frowns

828
00:53:39,367 --> 00:53:41,647
upon this idea you've got. A major road and a

829
00:53:41,647 --> 00:53:43,887
minor road. So to add stop signs that are just

830
00:53:43,887 --> 00:53:47,503
arbitrary. It's not actually something that they want to do.

831
00:53:47,503 --> 00:53:49,503
And we look at a road like old country road.

832
00:53:49,503 --> 00:53:52,823
The best data I could get was like 6600 vehicles

833
00:53:52,823 --> 00:53:56,263
per day. You wouldn't. Typically need this, but it lists

834
00:53:56,263 --> 00:53:59,703
three very specific circumstances when you would want to add

835
00:53:59,703 --> 00:54:02,383
a stop sign to a major road meeting. A minor

836
00:54:02,383 --> 00:54:07,427
road. Factor one, elevated crash history. So from the meteor

837
00:54:07,427 --> 00:54:09,587
reports we could find on 27 east, as well as

838
00:54:09,587 --> 00:54:12,547
speaking with first responders. There have been five documented accidents

839
00:54:12,547 --> 00:54:15,627
on Old Country Road in 2025, including a DWI. Hidden

840
00:54:15,627 --> 00:54:20,724
run on June 29, 2025. The vast majority of these

841
00:54:20,724 --> 00:54:24,164
accidents are single vehicle accidents. The manual says that stop

842
00:54:24,164 --> 00:54:29,079
signs can help in those scenarios. It specifically mentions installing

843
00:54:29,079 --> 00:54:32,159
stop signs or stoplights in that. So factor two that

844
00:54:32,159 --> 00:54:35,799
comes up in this manual is called site distance failure.

845
00:54:35,799 --> 00:54:38,999
Old country road curves south and decreases in elevation immediately

846
00:54:38,999 --> 00:54:43,141
after veil when traveling eastbound. It's also an area of

847
00:54:43,141 --> 00:54:46,301
the road that's experienced numerous vehicle versus tree accidents. Over

848
00:54:46,301 --> 00:54:49,941
the years. The manual recommends normally fixing sight lines as

849
00:54:49,941 --> 00:54:54,477
best practices. Or changing the grade. But when it's impossible

850
00:54:54,477 --> 00:54:57,197
due to grade homes or vegetation, like in this situation,

851
00:54:57,197 --> 00:55:00,957
it recommends installing stop signs, lights and other traffic control

852
00:55:00,957 --> 00:55:04,477
devices. And then there's the third factor, which is when

853
00:55:04,477 --> 00:55:08,517
an intersection is operating as two important streets, basically, or

854
00:55:08,517 --> 00:55:12,621
there's. Heavy pedestrian crossing demand, so pedestrian crossing demand. Exists

855
00:55:12,621 --> 00:55:14,421
because we have kids walking to school. There's one of

856
00:55:14,421 --> 00:55:17,501
the only sidewalked roads in east Quag was old country

857
00:55:17,501 --> 00:55:20,810
road, so we have. Heavy pedestrian traffic there in the

858
00:55:20,810 --> 00:55:25,010
morning. Crosswalk. Great idea there. And then others would argue

859
00:55:25,010 --> 00:55:27,770
that Vale is also an important road people live. Unveil

860
00:55:27,770 --> 00:55:30,250
that hate me for saying this, but. Many people who

861
00:55:30,250 --> 00:55:32,930
live east of Vale might cut through veil to get

862
00:55:32,930 --> 00:55:35,570
to old country road to get riverhead or sunrise highway.

863
00:55:35,570 --> 00:55:39,130
So those are the three factors to install stop sign.

864
00:55:39,006 --> 00:55:42,516
Signs on roads when they don't normally meet that normal

865
00:55:42,516 --> 00:55:45,436
equation, and I hope to never have to read this

866
00:55:45,436 --> 00:55:50,463
book again. 30 seconds. And other than that, I'm just.

867
00:55:50,463 --> 00:55:53,103
On a separate note, thank you guys for purchasing that.

868
00:55:53,103 --> 00:55:57,157
Property. In Southampton town for the new beach. It's wonderful

869
00:55:57,157 --> 00:56:00,237
and it's absolutely to go. Against that other gentleman. It's

870
00:56:00,237 --> 00:56:02,117
absolutely in the spirit of the CPF fund. And when

871
00:56:02,117 --> 00:56:05,317
he said victim. I'm proud to pay CPF on IPA

872
00:56:05,317 --> 00:56:08,037
piece of property because of what keeps our community, our

873
00:56:08,037 --> 00:56:11,157
community. Thank you, guys. And I just say I appreciate

874
00:56:11,157 --> 00:56:15,386
your mentioning the MuTcD because I held back. From talking

875
00:56:15,386 --> 00:56:18,506
about it. Yes, it's on my favorites bar on the

876
00:56:18,506 --> 00:56:22,684
computer, so I appreciate you referencing it? Thank you for

877
00:56:22,684 --> 00:56:28,086
your research. All right. Christine Grant.

878
00:56:36,430 --> 00:56:39,590
Good afternoon, everyone. My name is Christine Grant. I'm the

879
00:56:39,590 --> 00:56:43,710
secretary of the East Quag. Citizens advisory committee. But today

880
00:56:43,710 --> 00:56:52,092
I'm here as a concerned resident, neighbor and mom. I'm

881
00:56:52,092 --> 00:56:54,572
respectfully asking the town to approve a three way stop

882
00:56:54,572 --> 00:56:57,652
at the intersection of Vale Avenue and old country road.

883
00:56:57,652 --> 00:57:00,652
Old country road is notorious for speeding, and given its

884
00:57:00,652 --> 00:57:04,372
close proximity, to the East Quag elementary school that Sweden

885
00:57:04,372 --> 00:57:08,459
is particularly dangerous. This intersection sits along a route used

886
00:57:08,459 --> 00:57:11,619
every day by many families. Children walking to and from

887
00:57:11,619 --> 00:57:16,659
school. Parents with strollers, kids riding bikes, neighbors walking dogs,

888
00:57:16,659 --> 00:57:21,210
everyone trying their best to show the road. Safely. There

889
00:57:21,210 --> 00:57:23,530
have already been numerous accidents on old country, and residents

890
00:57:23,530 --> 00:57:26,770
are rightfully concerned about safety in the area. A three

891
00:57:26,770 --> 00:57:29,730
way stop is a simple, practical step that would slow

892
00:57:29,730 --> 00:57:33,250
traffic and make that area. Much safer for everyone, especially

893
00:57:33,250 --> 00:57:36,714
our kids. I appreciate your time and consideration, and I

894
00:57:36,714 --> 00:57:39,314
hope you'll move forward with approving this. A three way

895
00:57:39,314 --> 00:57:43,231
stop and help protecting our community. Thank you. Thank you.

896
00:57:44,627 --> 00:57:53,482
Okay. So, Peter, Andrew, is there anyone on Zoom for

897
00:57:53,482 --> 00:57:58,304
this third public hearing? No one has their hands up.

898
00:57:58,838 --> 00:58:04,398
Have you seen your hand? All right. Just no other

899
00:58:04,398 --> 00:58:07,038
comments. Then I'll move to close the public hearing. I

900
00:58:07,038 --> 00:58:10,874
will just say that the reason why? The Bale crosswalk

901
00:58:10,874 --> 00:58:15,176
wouldn't work is because. It continues. The sidewall continues to

902
00:58:15,176 --> 00:58:19,553
fail, and then it crosses. Further down. There's no sidewalk

903
00:58:19,553 --> 00:58:22,553
on that side of the street, so either we would

904
00:58:22,553 --> 00:58:24,593
have to look at expanding the sidewalk, which I don't

905
00:58:24,593 --> 00:58:28,526
think the houses there would allow for. Because they're right

906
00:58:28,526 --> 00:58:31,638
up there. I would just like to say it's great

907
00:58:31,638 --> 00:58:34,638
to see the board taking a lot of proactive measures

908
00:58:34,638 --> 00:58:37,718
lately on some traffic mitigation and safety. And thank you

909
00:58:37,718 --> 00:58:43,885
to the highway. Department really appreciate everybody's collaboration. Thanks for

910
00:58:43,885 --> 00:58:47,005
bringing these to us for consideration. And I'm proud to

911
00:58:47,005 --> 00:58:52,096
support this. Me, too. So I need a second to

912
00:58:52,096 --> 00:58:56,491
close this. All in favor? All right. Madam Clerk, would

913
00:58:56,491 --> 00:58:59,451
you please read the notice for the fourth and final

914
00:58:59,451 --> 00:59:03,011
public hearing? Public? Hearing number four for a local law

915
00:59:03,011 --> 00:59:07,171
to enact a new article six B entitled hotel development.

916
00:59:07,171 --> 00:59:11,634
Overlay. Within chapter 330, zoning of the town code and

917
00:59:11,634 --> 00:59:16,274
add sections 34.5 through 34. Point ten to enable the

918
00:59:16,274 --> 00:59:21,394
discretionary review of small scale tourist accommodations in highway business

919
00:59:21,394 --> 00:59:25,291
zoning districts. The yield signs are on for adoption. We

920
00:59:25,291 --> 00:59:34,649
already had the public hearing. Go read that book. Yeah.

921
00:59:34,649 --> 00:59:43,797
You're up. Good afternoon. Welcome. Council member

922
00:59:43,797 --> 00:59:48,157
Neely share, our town planning and development administrator. I was

923
00:59:48,157 --> 00:59:51,037
not here for the hearing at the special meeting on

924
00:59:51,037 --> 00:59:54,917
this, but happy to answer any further questions or discuss.

925
00:59:57,374 --> 01:00:02,441
This floating hotel development overlay code with you. You weren't

926
01:00:02,441 --> 01:00:07,895
here that day. Yes. Didn't realize it was amid. We

927
01:00:07,895 --> 01:00:10,215
were just waiting for comments, I believe. Yes, with your

928
01:00:10,215 --> 01:00:12,535
tips. And we did get some comments. From the planning

929
01:00:12,535 --> 01:00:20,651
board. We're not very favorable, actually. And. Try to appear

930
01:00:20,651 --> 01:00:25,709
with them and kind of talk about it. But. It

931
01:00:25,709 --> 01:00:28,869
really comes down to how do you confer a land

932
01:00:28,869 --> 01:00:32,549
use? Right? You have some options. This is a tool

933
01:00:32,549 --> 01:00:34,829
for you to use if you don't like the tool.

934
01:00:36,211 --> 01:00:42,233
You don't have to do it. So. It's either permitted

935
01:00:42,233 --> 01:00:44,416
use. A special exception. Use right. Those things happen through

936
01:00:44,416 --> 01:00:48,394
the planning board. A zoning action is a case by

937
01:00:48,394 --> 01:00:51,834
case basis. So you're saying this isn't? Something that just

938
01:00:51,834 --> 01:00:55,414
goes to the planning board. This is something that. We

939
01:00:55,414 --> 01:00:58,614
want to comprehensively plan and do it on a case

940
01:00:58,614 --> 01:01:01,094
by case basis. Of course it's still in the highway

941
01:01:01,094 --> 01:01:05,774
business corridor. So it comes up and someone says, how

942
01:01:05,774 --> 01:01:08,014
about here? And we go, well, how many other hotels

943
01:01:08,014 --> 01:01:09,614
are near here? And what is this going to do?

944
01:01:09,614 --> 01:01:12,494
To the does the community like it? Do we want

945
01:01:12,494 --> 01:01:16,613
this? And you can discretion use that. Discretionary power to

946
01:01:16,613 --> 01:01:19,173
say, yes, we do want to move forward, or no,

947
01:01:19,173 --> 01:01:24,381
thanks. And so that gives you. Added scrutiny and ability,

948
01:01:24,381 --> 01:01:28,656
not less, and it is comprehensive. In its approach, so

949
01:01:28,656 --> 01:01:31,171
I just want to point that out. So I just

950
01:01:31,171 --> 01:01:34,331
want to comment because I did read their comments and

951
01:01:34,331 --> 01:01:36,571
ironically, they were sent to me. At the same time,

952
01:01:36,571 --> 01:01:39,851
I received their comments on this as well as their

953
01:01:39,851 --> 01:01:43,691
comments on the floating zone for the community housing fund

954
01:01:43,691 --> 01:01:45,371
and so on. This one they said they do not

955
01:01:45,371 --> 01:01:48,581
favor the use of floating zones for planning. But in

956
01:01:48,581 --> 01:01:51,101
the housing overlay district, which is another floating zone, they

957
01:01:51,101 --> 01:01:56,381
fully supported it. So those two kind of conflicted. And

958
01:01:56,381 --> 01:01:58,901
I think there was a comment that I read that.

959
01:02:00,225 --> 01:02:02,865
It was too close to a PDD. And we got

960
01:02:02,865 --> 01:02:06,305
rid of pdds. And the reason why we're revisiting these

961
01:02:06,305 --> 01:02:09,385
floating zones as zoning tools is because there is no

962
01:02:09,385 --> 01:02:12,465
mechanism for things like this that benefit that broad community

963
01:02:12,465 --> 01:02:16,911
sport and benefit the community. So. We're looking at a

964
01:02:16,911 --> 01:02:20,501
way to narrowly. Allow these things with a lot of

965
01:02:20,501 --> 01:02:25,652
discretion. And. Yet after they went and said PDD is

966
01:02:25,652 --> 01:02:29,092
no good. One of their suggestions was that we cap

967
01:02:29,092 --> 01:02:31,732
it at 40 units, but allow up to 65 with

968
01:02:31,732 --> 01:02:35,132
community benefit, which was part of the whole reason why

969
01:02:35,132 --> 01:02:38,052
pdds were done away with, right? Because community benefits were

970
01:02:38,052 --> 01:02:40,892
seen as arbitrary and it became a give us this.

971
01:02:40,892 --> 01:02:44,049
We'll give you that kind of scenario. We're saying? We

972
01:02:44,049 --> 01:02:45,649
don't want that in the picture. We want to be

973
01:02:45,649 --> 01:02:49,569
able to very narrowly take a use that right now.

974
01:02:49,569 --> 01:02:52,809
Our code doesn't really allow anywhere and decide where it's.

975
01:02:52,809 --> 01:02:57,097
Appropriate. And so to me, that's a very sensible thing

976
01:02:57,097 --> 01:03:01,610
to do, and. I found it odd that. Wholesale did

977
01:03:01,610 --> 01:03:04,730
not like this floating zone, but fully supported the housing

978
01:03:04,730 --> 01:03:09,100
overlay district, which was also a floating zone. They had

979
01:03:09,100 --> 01:03:13,760
their reservations, and I agree with you that. It didn't

980
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:17,956
entirely add up. In my view. Well. Could one say,

981
01:03:17,956 --> 01:03:25,172
though, that. Between the two uses. Affordable housing. Which is

982
01:03:25,172 --> 01:03:30,004
pretty limited and narrow as well. In comparison to this

983
01:03:30,004 --> 01:03:34,328
particular measure. The implications of the use are much different.

984
01:03:36,316 --> 01:03:39,876
Whereas with respect to the hotels, there's other things to

985
01:03:39,876 --> 01:03:44,561
consider. A lot of those hotels are going to yield

986
01:03:44,561 --> 01:03:49,933
a lot more additional traffic. Some of those hotels are

987
01:03:49,933 --> 01:03:57,400
going to have more amenities. That would again yield additional.

988
01:03:59,322 --> 01:04:06,489
Interaction and public use. But it's a good point. I

989
01:04:06,489 --> 01:04:12,658
think. Perhaps. The planning board has some reservations because also,

990
01:04:12,658 --> 01:04:15,988
this is another tool that. They typically have at their

991
01:04:15,988 --> 01:04:19,872
disposal, and we're sort of kind of saying, hey, We're

992
01:04:19,872 --> 01:04:23,691
going to. Now do it. I think they're reasonable. I

993
01:04:23,691 --> 01:04:26,531
understand where Councilwoman McNamara is coming from. I also do

994
01:04:26,531 --> 01:04:29,291
think that some of the, their concerns were reasonable. Sure.

995
01:04:29,291 --> 01:04:34,655
I mean, they have some valid points. I'm just not

996
01:04:34,655 --> 01:04:37,829
sure what you want to do. So crafting a tool

997
01:04:37,829 --> 01:04:40,109
that you can use at your discretion. I mean, we've

998
01:04:40,109 --> 01:04:43,189
got more pushback on increasing density for community housing, then

999
01:04:43,189 --> 01:04:48,908
we've gotten for economic development, right? So. You're definitely consistent

1000
01:04:48,908 --> 01:04:51,308
with the comp plan because the comp plan tells you

1001
01:04:51,308 --> 01:04:55,628
to. Provide more small scale tourist accommodations. So that number,

1002
01:04:55,628 --> 01:04:58,948
first and foremost is consistent. When you go to land

1003
01:04:58,948 --> 01:05:02,188
it. You're creating a tool that exists in the code,

1004
01:05:02,188 --> 01:05:04,228
but it doesn't. Exist on a piece of until we

1005
01:05:04,228 --> 01:05:08,148
vote. Till you vote to land. Correct. And it's. Been

1006
01:05:08,148 --> 01:05:11,863
test. Tested in the courts. This is a valid method.

1007
01:05:11,863 --> 01:05:15,415
And we did start by looking at the entire. Zone

1008
01:05:15,415 --> 01:05:17,255
and saying, can we craft a code to allow it

1009
01:05:17,255 --> 01:05:20,495
as a special exception in this zone? And it was

1010
01:05:20,495 --> 01:05:25,863
just too prolific. And this is, like our only tool

1011
01:05:25,863 --> 01:05:28,143
that we have to be able to say we're not

1012
01:05:28,143 --> 01:05:30,223
going to allow it everywhere. We're going to only allow

1013
01:05:30,223 --> 01:05:36,161
it under very certain circumstances. Where it makes sense. So

1014
01:05:36,161 --> 01:05:39,441
the floating zone thing that people are skeptical of is

1015
01:05:39,441 --> 01:05:43,521
just another tool for you to be creative, be flexible

1016
01:05:43,521 --> 01:05:47,361
and promote the general welfare of the public. Who says,

1017
01:05:47,361 --> 01:05:50,761
hey, we want to reuse this property for this hotel

1018
01:05:50,761 --> 01:05:53,241
use. Wouldn't that be great? And you go, what? No.

1019
01:05:53,241 --> 01:05:57,076
It's not allowed. You could say. Well, it might be

1020
01:05:57,076 --> 01:05:59,088
allowed. Is it big enough? Is it so situated that

1021
01:05:59,088 --> 01:06:02,459
it makes sense? You get to start to ask those

1022
01:06:02,459 --> 01:06:05,059
questions and make a decision, it may be yes, and

1023
01:06:05,059 --> 01:06:07,643
it may be, no, but at least. You don't just

1024
01:06:07,643 --> 01:06:10,883
foreclose on the opportunity to take a look at it

1025
01:06:10,883 --> 01:06:15,137
when the community. Is asking you to, so. You're just

1026
01:06:15,137 --> 01:06:18,177
creating something that you can use at your will, and

1027
01:06:18,177 --> 01:06:19,737
I'm not. Trying to be harsh on the planning board.

1028
01:06:21,203 --> 01:06:23,643
The two contradictory things were. Yes, in this case, we

1029
01:06:23,643 --> 01:06:26,803
support it, which I can see their point. Of maybe

1030
01:06:26,803 --> 01:06:29,323
the community housing they see as a community benefit in

1031
01:06:29,323 --> 01:06:32,723
itself, but I see economic development as a community benefit

1032
01:06:32,723 --> 01:06:37,066
as well. I think I'm in the somewhat unique position

1033
01:06:37,066 --> 01:06:39,786
of having been on the planning board when those were

1034
01:06:39,786 --> 01:06:43,706
comments were drafted. And now being on the town board,

1035
01:06:43,706 --> 01:06:48,129
and I don't want to sit here. Right now and

1036
01:06:48,129 --> 01:06:50,489
try to explain all of the comments that were provided

1037
01:06:50,489 --> 01:06:53,900
by the planning board. I don't think. That's appropriate. I

1038
01:06:53,900 --> 01:06:57,697
think maybe at some point now. Or some point should

1039
01:06:57,697 --> 01:07:02,330
go through those points. I can tell you, however, There

1040
01:07:02,330 --> 01:07:04,490
was, and I think you kind of alluded to it

1041
01:07:04,490 --> 01:07:11,091
there. The community housing. I believe the board felt. There

1042
01:07:11,091 --> 01:07:14,898
is some compelling need to keep that process moving. That

1043
01:07:14,898 --> 01:07:18,949
there is. A need. To work on the community housing

1044
01:07:18,949 --> 01:07:22,947
aspect. I don't believe such a great sense of urgency.

1045
01:07:25,721 --> 01:07:28,401
For the hotel overlay district and that there was a

1046
01:07:28,401 --> 01:07:31,561
sense that it needed some more work. For example, I

1047
01:07:31,561 --> 01:07:37,757
know question that came up, the description. Is. Small to

1048
01:07:37,757 --> 01:07:41,851
mid size. Whatever the phrasing was we were talking. The

1049
01:07:41,851 --> 01:07:46,656
legislation talks up to 64 units. 64 units. I believe

1050
01:07:46,656 --> 01:07:49,216
everybody on the planning board felt like that's more than.

1051
01:07:50,994 --> 01:07:56,108
A small hotel. There is no relationship. Again, we talked

1052
01:07:56,108 --> 01:07:59,268
about this. There was no relationship between the size of

1053
01:07:59,268 --> 01:08:04,317
the property. And the number of units that might. Be

1054
01:08:04,317 --> 01:08:08,346
approved by the town board. There is. It has to

1055
01:08:08,346 --> 01:08:11,186
be a minimum of two acres. Right? But it could

1056
01:08:11,186 --> 01:08:15,626
be 64 units. On two acres or 64 units? On

1057
01:08:15,626 --> 01:08:18,066
ten acres. On ten acres. I think there was some

1058
01:08:18,066 --> 01:08:22,146
concern that? 64 units on two acres, I believe again,

1059
01:08:22,146 --> 01:08:26,842
Janice, from the meeting we had. Current regulations allow. What,

1060
01:08:26,842 --> 01:08:30,833
four units per acre or something? That's why you have

1061
01:08:30,833 --> 01:08:34,033
no hotels, because that's not going to work for anyone.

1062
01:08:34,033 --> 01:08:37,433
So what's the magic number? This is our question always.

1063
01:08:37,433 --> 01:08:42,335
What is the magic number? The industry says 75. So

1064
01:08:42,335 --> 01:08:46,055
anything for up to 75 is quote unquote small from

1065
01:08:46,055 --> 01:08:48,975
the rating system of hotels. We took ten off of

1066
01:08:48,975 --> 01:08:52,215
that and said 65. When you pick these numbers, there's

1067
01:08:52,215 --> 01:08:56,365
a certain level of. I hate to say arbitrary. We're

1068
01:08:56,365 --> 01:09:00,835
picking a number 65. Is not small, but. 40 is,

1069
01:09:00,835 --> 01:09:02,475
but no one's going to build one if it's 40,

1070
01:09:02,475 --> 01:09:07,314
because it's not economically feasible, then it's. The planning board

1071
01:09:07,314 --> 01:09:10,994
was concerned that the town board, which doesn't deal with

1072
01:09:10,994 --> 01:09:15,901
site plans and in essence, this is approval. Of a

1073
01:09:15,901 --> 01:09:19,061
lot of aspects related to a site plan. The town

1074
01:09:19,061 --> 01:09:23,524
board. Would approve 50 unit on a two acre piece

1075
01:09:23,524 --> 01:09:25,324
of property and kind of give it to the planning

1076
01:09:25,324 --> 01:09:28,366
board and say, make it work. If we go through

1077
01:09:28,366 --> 01:09:33,736
a full trial. Plans either way for each board. So

1078
01:09:33,736 --> 01:09:36,776
you're coordinating and collaborating? I've been involved. As a planning

1079
01:09:36,776 --> 01:09:41,536
board member with, I believe, two hotel or motel applications.

1080
01:09:43,218 --> 01:09:45,418
And was part of the whole planning board, and they

1081
01:09:45,418 --> 01:09:47,778
were very involved, and there was a great deal of

1082
01:09:47,778 --> 01:09:49,938
work that had to be done on both of them,

1083
01:09:49,938 --> 01:09:52,618
and a lot of questions. Sure. And that still is

1084
01:09:52,618 --> 01:09:55,218
under the purview of the planning board. What happens here

1085
01:09:55,218 --> 01:09:58,258
is that you're conferring the ability to have that use

1086
01:09:58,258 --> 01:10:01,458
conceptually, and then they go, the planning board and you

1087
01:10:01,458 --> 01:10:06,177
work out all the details. Conceptually with. It's 25 units.

1088
01:10:06,177 --> 01:10:12,380
It's 50 units. Somehow you. 're now a legislator and

1089
01:10:12,380 --> 01:10:14,820
this board, you tell me what the magic number is,

1090
01:10:14,820 --> 01:10:16,700
and I'll put it in the code. If you want

1091
01:10:16,700 --> 01:10:19,140
a different number, it will be the number. You want,

1092
01:10:19,140 --> 01:10:23,202
whether or not that will result in any actual. Something

1093
01:10:23,202 --> 01:10:28,102
is another case to be decided. Their question was allow

1094
01:10:28,102 --> 01:10:30,782
40, but allow up to the 65 if they give

1095
01:10:30,782 --> 01:10:35,262
you community benefit. So you're still allowing the 65, but

1096
01:10:35,262 --> 01:10:37,662
with community benefits. But what are those community benefits to?

1097
01:10:37,662 --> 01:10:44,087
Me. The community benefit is the economic development. It's the

1098
01:10:44,087 --> 01:10:46,887
influx of money into Hampton Bay has lost a lot

1099
01:10:46,887 --> 01:10:50,287
of when nightclubs were shut down. Like it. For good

1100
01:10:50,287 --> 01:10:54,344
or bad, they lost a lot of economic development. And

1101
01:10:54,344 --> 01:10:56,064
to have something like this come back in and to

1102
01:10:56,064 --> 01:11:00,001
set the parameters where we did, where. They don't become

1103
01:11:00,001 --> 01:11:03,721
transient housing. And the whole situation that happened with Bel

1104
01:11:03,721 --> 01:11:07,201
Air and seeing down the line and making sure that

1105
01:11:07,201 --> 01:11:10,601
that doesn't happen. But then also having enough units where

1106
01:11:10,601 --> 01:11:12,521
I guess maybe because we see that I think the

1107
01:11:12,521 --> 01:11:14,921
planning board doesn't have the benefit of the conversation that

1108
01:11:14,921 --> 01:11:18,641
we had. With the developer, whereby in order to have

1109
01:11:18,641 --> 01:11:22,650
a name brand behind this hotel to make sure. It

1110
01:11:22,650 --> 01:11:26,685
doesn't become. Long term housing, you have to have a

1111
01:11:26,685 --> 01:11:28,165
certain number of years. They won't even look. At you

1112
01:11:28,165 --> 01:11:31,525
if you're under 40 units or lower, because you just

1113
01:11:31,525 --> 01:11:34,005
won't get that brand recognition and you won't get also.

1114
01:11:35,354 --> 01:11:39,194
The long term benefit and the brand's reputation for not

1115
01:11:39,194 --> 01:11:42,754
allowing that hotel to become something that the community was

1116
01:11:42,754 --> 01:11:45,370
told they're not going to get. Plus you already do

1117
01:11:45,370 --> 01:11:49,490
have that in 330 34.9 a. These are your findings,

1118
01:11:49,490 --> 01:11:52,330
it says in determining whether to land a hotel development

1119
01:11:52,330 --> 01:11:56,490
overlay to townboard. In addition to its usual discretion in

1120
01:11:56,490 --> 01:11:58,610
considering a change of zone, which means you have all

1121
01:11:58,610 --> 01:12:01,010
the discretion to just say this. Isn't going to work

1122
01:12:01,010 --> 01:12:05,756
here. Shall also consider the amount of existing hotel accommodations

1123
01:12:05,756 --> 01:12:09,716
in the immediate area, the appropriateness of the site environmental

1124
01:12:09,716 --> 01:12:13,716
considerations the proposed development design to accommodate the number of

1125
01:12:13,716 --> 01:12:17,404
guest units proposed so. We hear a lot of people

1126
01:12:17,404 --> 01:12:20,089
say, You're £750 into a test. If you see that

1127
01:12:20,089 --> 01:12:24,635
that's happening, you. Would slim that number down, right? The

1128
01:12:24,635 --> 01:12:28,555
need for additional community benefits or offsite improvements. So in

1129
01:12:28,555 --> 01:12:31,075
the zone change realm, you don't need a PDD to

1130
01:12:31,075 --> 01:12:35,155
get some off site improvements as a mitigation or otherwise,

1131
01:12:35,155 --> 01:12:39,499
so you can do that anyway. And in addition, the

1132
01:12:39,499 --> 01:12:41,859
town board shall find the development is consistent with the

1133
01:12:41,859 --> 01:12:44,939
recommendations of the comp plan and will be beneficial, compatible,

1134
01:12:44,939 --> 01:12:47,739
harmonious with the surrounding land uses and not have a

1135
01:12:47,739 --> 01:12:51,139
significant impact upon the environment. So all these things come

1136
01:12:51,139 --> 01:12:54,699
under your purview to even say, does this make sense

1137
01:12:54,699 --> 01:12:58,059
in this location? If it doesn't make sense? You say

1138
01:12:58,059 --> 01:13:00,579
it doesn't make sense if you said it makes sense,

1139
01:13:00,579 --> 01:13:03,659
but say not at 65 only. What if we knocked

1140
01:13:03,659 --> 01:13:07,211
off these units? And kind of reconfigured. You always have

1141
01:13:07,211 --> 01:13:09,931
the referral power to the planning. Board to get that

1142
01:13:09,931 --> 01:13:13,211
coordinated input, which is important if you're a lead agency.

1143
01:13:14,577 --> 01:13:17,977
It's for you to debate, decide. I could rewrite it.

1144
01:13:17,977 --> 01:13:20,417
Do whatever you like, however. You want? I just want

1145
01:13:20,417 --> 01:13:25,490
you to know. I'm not averse to changing anything if

1146
01:13:25,490 --> 01:13:30,115
you want to. My suggestion might be now that the

1147
01:13:30,115 --> 01:13:34,315
town board is looking at those comments and has responses

1148
01:13:34,315 --> 01:13:38,892
to some of the comments, maybe dialogue. Through you to

1149
01:13:38,892 --> 01:13:42,732
say, well, like we do in federal applications and things,

1150
01:13:42,732 --> 01:13:47,383
you have to here's? The comments. Here's our responses. Maybe

1151
01:13:47,383 --> 01:13:50,680
there's a need to go back and. Say to town

1152
01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:54,520
boards, discuss these, and these are our feelings somehow. Well,

1153
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:57,954
you would anyway. In the secret analysis. So when the

1154
01:13:57,954 --> 01:14:01,274
town board does its secret, it's called reason supporting. This

1155
01:14:01,274 --> 01:14:05,794
determination and you would have that maybe narrative that describes

1156
01:14:05,794 --> 01:14:10,074
your thought process, that even though we read these recommendations,

1157
01:14:10,074 --> 01:14:12,994
these things, and you have the chance to collaborate and

1158
01:14:12,994 --> 01:14:16,182
write that on your behalf. If I can be of

1159
01:14:16,182 --> 01:14:20,302
further assistance or any changes on here. Thank you. Thank

1160
01:14:20,302 --> 01:14:26,444
you. Well, I don't have any cards from the present

1161
01:14:26,444 --> 01:14:30,740
today, but how long has this been? Open for. We

1162
01:14:30,740 --> 01:14:32,940
had a work session, and I think this is the

1163
01:14:32,940 --> 01:14:38,732
first time it's on. December 9 1st public hearing. Then

1164
01:14:38,732 --> 01:14:41,012
it was tabled and brought back at the special meeting

1165
01:14:41,012 --> 01:14:45,057
in December. Then it was tabled again to today, if

1166
01:14:45,057 --> 01:14:49,054
I'm not mistaken. We didn't put a notice of adoption

1167
01:14:49,054 --> 01:14:54,091
in the packet, so that would be coming forthcoming. If

1168
01:14:54,091 --> 01:14:57,114
it's a will of the board. So we had a

1169
01:14:57,114 --> 01:15:00,234
meeting on December 9, and then we got the comments

1170
01:15:00,234 --> 01:15:03,114
from the planning board. And now we're having another public

1171
01:15:03,114 --> 01:15:06,265
hearing on the 13th. And the county has determined it

1172
01:15:06,265 --> 01:15:09,800
to be local determination. Would we be open to just

1173
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:15,061
holding it open for one more meeting? I am. Just

1174
01:15:15,061 --> 01:15:17,261
so that it's not on for adoption today. No, I

1175
01:15:17,261 --> 01:15:21,651
understand. Just so that people. Can. Review this if they

1176
01:15:21,651 --> 01:15:23,971
have not heard it and have the opportunity to speak

1177
01:15:23,971 --> 01:15:27,670
once more. I mean, that way we know. Where does

1178
01:15:27,670 --> 01:15:29,510
the community stand on this? Because this is the third

1179
01:15:29,510 --> 01:15:32,590
public hearing. I think we've gotten. But if we're going

1180
01:15:32,590 --> 01:15:36,224
to make changes, All over again anyway, so we might

1181
01:15:36,224 --> 01:15:40,893
as well hold it open in case. There's any other

1182
01:15:40,893 --> 01:15:45,293
changes from the board based on the planning board's comments,

1183
01:15:45,293 --> 01:15:46,853
okay. So you'll let me know if you want changes?

1184
01:15:48,911 --> 01:15:51,071
Thank you. So we're keeping open for written comment, or

1185
01:15:51,071 --> 01:15:59,661
are we having another fourth public? Hearing. For two weeks.

1186
01:16:02,867 --> 01:16:09,612
I just feel as though. There's some additional discussion that

1187
01:16:09,612 --> 01:16:13,868
should be had. So we can have another work session,

1188
01:16:13,868 --> 01:16:17,182
but we can hold this open. I think if we're

1189
01:16:17,182 --> 01:16:18,902
having a work session and we're going to make major

1190
01:16:18,902 --> 01:16:21,142
changes. We may as well close this now. And I

1191
01:16:21,142 --> 01:16:23,142
re noticed a new public so here's. My position. I'll

1192
01:16:23,142 --> 01:16:27,457
just make my position known. I just think because. This

1193
01:16:27,457 --> 01:16:32,324
is a big process change, right? It's currently situated where

1194
01:16:32,324 --> 01:16:35,768
applicants are going before the planning board. Right, Tom, you

1195
01:16:35,768 --> 01:16:38,568
could comment on that. Now we're saying they could come

1196
01:16:38,568 --> 01:16:42,799
to us because. You laid it out very nicely about

1197
01:16:42,799 --> 01:16:45,839
how this happened. I'm just thinking maybe it requires. A

1198
01:16:45,839 --> 01:16:49,079
little bit more time just to review, make sure this

1199
01:16:49,079 --> 01:16:51,359
is all set up in a way. That works for

1200
01:16:51,359 --> 01:16:56,590
everybody. Because it is a big change that the town

1201
01:16:56,590 --> 01:16:59,630
of Southampton would adopt in terms of our development. Procedures.

1202
01:16:59,630 --> 01:17:00,990
We've had it open for two months, but if you

1203
01:17:00,990 --> 01:17:05,387
want to keep it open. It's fine. Made me a

1204
01:17:05,387 --> 01:17:09,507
little uncomfortable. Initially, I thought, okay, hotels are allowed in

1205
01:17:09,507 --> 01:17:16,062
highway business. But it's so unreasonably restrictive that nobody can

1206
01:17:16,062 --> 01:17:20,056
actually put a hotel there. Right. So that's why we're

1207
01:17:20,056 --> 01:17:24,496
going this way, rather than just allowing them with restrictions.

1208
01:17:26,122 --> 01:17:30,242
I feel a little uncomfortable about the way we're approaching

1209
01:17:30,242 --> 01:17:34,568
this, especially since. That's what I had said before. And

1210
01:17:34,568 --> 01:17:38,393
now the planning board staying too. And I don't know

1211
01:17:38,393 --> 01:17:45,001
why we can't just. Have. Zoning allowing for the hotels

1212
01:17:45,001 --> 01:17:48,481
with certain restrictions. And I know you said, well, this

1213
01:17:48,481 --> 01:17:51,721
could open us. Up to a proliferation of hotels, but

1214
01:17:51,721 --> 01:17:56,252
I think the market forces controls, things like that. In

1215
01:17:56,252 --> 01:18:00,612
a town like Southampton. That's on you. If you would

1216
01:18:00,612 --> 01:18:02,812
like to do that. We did an analysis, and there's

1217
01:18:02,812 --> 01:18:09,285
over 1400 parcels that would be eligible. So if that's

1218
01:18:09,285 --> 01:18:12,005
your will, that's fine. Just going into it with eyes

1219
01:18:12,005 --> 01:18:18,406
wide. Open. That. The market forces are competition. So where

1220
01:18:18,406 --> 01:18:20,926
one goes, another goes. And you would never be able

1221
01:18:20,926 --> 01:18:23,366
to say you can't be there. And you're there because

1222
01:18:23,366 --> 01:18:25,726
this one's there. And you're putting them all in hamlets

1223
01:18:25,726 --> 01:18:29,236
because there's none in villages. So that's our concern, and

1224
01:18:29,236 --> 01:18:33,552
that's a valid concern because. We're not trying to open

1225
01:18:33,552 --> 01:18:36,592
the floodgates and have hotels everywhere, either. We just. Want

1226
01:18:36,592 --> 01:18:40,392
to have the ability to put one as a conditional

1227
01:18:40,392 --> 01:18:44,747
use, basically. If you want one there. But outside of

1228
01:18:44,747 --> 01:18:51,084
that. It's really not an as of right or. Sort

1229
01:18:51,084 --> 01:18:55,285
of land use. That's just conferred by. It's confirmed by

1230
01:18:55,285 --> 01:18:57,325
a board. Like the planning board is a confirmatory board,

1231
01:18:57,325 --> 01:19:00,485
meaning you. Meet the criteria, you get the use. You

1232
01:19:00,485 --> 01:19:03,805
have the discretionary powers to say we don't. Even want

1233
01:19:03,805 --> 01:19:05,685
to deal with this right now. We don't like it.

1234
01:19:05,685 --> 01:19:08,743
The community is not happy. And so you have that

1235
01:19:08,743 --> 01:19:13,623
added layer of scrutiny and structure. So it's not a

1236
01:19:13,623 --> 01:19:16,223
big departure. We have lots of zones like this. We

1237
01:19:16,223 --> 01:19:20,496
have many. We have other overlays that are the same

1238
01:19:20,496 --> 01:19:24,936
way. For this reason, MF 44 SC 44. All your

1239
01:19:24,936 --> 01:19:28,616
zoning floating zones. They're only landed when you want them

1240
01:19:28,616 --> 01:19:31,776
to be otherwise. Nobody can just go to the planning

1241
01:19:31,776 --> 01:19:34,976
board and ask for. Yeah, see, something just doesn't. Seem

1242
01:19:34,976 --> 01:19:37,736
right about that, that you can say yes to it.

1243
01:19:38,237 --> 01:19:41,997
In one location. And then just refuse to consider it

1244
01:19:41,997 --> 01:19:44,757
in another. It's a zoning change. So you have discretionary

1245
01:19:44,757 --> 01:19:50,537
power. Right, Jim? In this one particular location. It's okay.

1246
01:19:50,537 --> 01:19:53,657
But down the street, we're not looking at it. It

1247
01:19:53,657 --> 01:19:56,741
just seems. As though. It's. I don't want to say

1248
01:19:56,741 --> 01:19:59,421
spot zoning, but it seems as though we're. Just saying

1249
01:19:59,421 --> 01:20:01,741
yes to this spot, no to that one, instead of

1250
01:20:01,741 --> 01:20:05,421
saying, here's a zoning district where it's allowed under these

1251
01:20:05,421 --> 01:20:10,366
conditions. We don't want any more pharmacies, so we're going

1252
01:20:10,366 --> 01:20:12,406
to tell you. Where the pharmacies can go instead of

1253
01:20:12,406 --> 01:20:13,886
saying, I mean, people aren't going to you're not going

1254
01:20:13,886 --> 01:20:17,206
to put ten pharmacies in one community because they're not

1255
01:20:17,206 --> 01:20:21,279
going to be able to sustain themselves. If you pick

1256
01:20:21,279 --> 01:20:24,399
the spot where one, that's a traditional way of zoning.

1257
01:20:25,861 --> 01:20:27,501
It's sort of becoming more antiquated because of the fact

1258
01:20:27,501 --> 01:20:35,320
that. We get challenged when we say only here. And

1259
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:39,321
then. If I said okay. Right here is the hotel

1260
01:20:39,321 --> 01:20:44,076
zone, right there. Everybody else goes. What about me? Where's

1261
01:20:44,076 --> 01:20:48,591
my hotel zone? So. You can absolutely do what you're

1262
01:20:48,591 --> 01:20:56,246
saying. It's just a way of approaching it. Again. I

1263
01:20:56,246 --> 01:20:58,286
am not pushing my way on you. I'm giving you.

1264
01:20:59,537 --> 01:21:02,097
A more scrutinized way of doing it that gives you

1265
01:21:02,097 --> 01:21:05,097
more protection, not less. If you want to do it

1266
01:21:05,097 --> 01:21:08,587
the other way? It's still able to be done, but

1267
01:21:08,587 --> 01:21:11,905
then when. With lots of applications come flooding into the

1268
01:21:11,905 --> 01:21:14,305
planning board. It turns into, oh, my God, we need

1269
01:21:14,305 --> 01:21:18,076
a moratorium. We have to stop. We need to redo

1270
01:21:18,076 --> 01:21:20,316
this again. And so that's why I'm saying, isn't a

1271
01:21:20,316 --> 01:21:23,556
case by case, still on the highway, still over two

1272
01:21:23,556 --> 01:21:28,448
acres, still so situated that you have these parameters. A

1273
01:21:28,448 --> 01:21:31,688
little more. I think that's more Southampton than any other

1274
01:21:31,688 --> 01:21:38,198
way. Being very judicious in how it goes. But. It

1275
01:21:38,198 --> 01:21:41,679
is totally. Completely up to you how you want to

1276
01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:44,439
approach this. We tried it the other way. We said,

1277
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:47,694
wow. It could get a lot of them. Let's try.

1278
01:21:49,655 --> 01:21:52,055
The way. That's like, just a little bit. What were

1279
01:21:52,055 --> 01:21:56,834
the criteria used? The first go? Round. Again. Anything, anywhere.

1280
01:21:58,850 --> 01:22:04,184
Well, we would just expand. Just say. In Hb allow

1281
01:22:04,184 --> 01:22:09,769
hotels. As a use in that category, se. Right. And

1282
01:22:09,769 --> 01:22:13,681
then we went through that up to 60. So make

1283
01:22:13,681 --> 01:22:15,961
it a special exception. We did that already. And now

1284
01:22:15,961 --> 01:22:18,001
we're coming full circle. Back to the beginning, because if

1285
01:22:18,001 --> 01:22:19,561
you do it the way, if you do it that

1286
01:22:19,561 --> 01:22:23,081
way with a special exception. You're talking about 1400 parcels

1287
01:22:23,081 --> 01:22:27,390
outside of villages that could have hotels on. Them. That's

1288
01:22:27,390 --> 01:22:28,990
not going to happen. But you can't say that's not

1289
01:22:28,990 --> 01:22:37,638
going. To happen. Because we don't know that. Because. Criteria,

1290
01:22:37,638 --> 01:22:40,789
right? And if they made it, they made it. Then

1291
01:22:40,789 --> 01:22:42,549
you don't have any discretion. But if they do hit

1292
01:22:42,549 --> 01:22:45,878
it, you have to give it to them, right? If

1293
01:22:45,878 --> 01:22:50,347
they meet the conditions, then. You're very limited as to

1294
01:22:50,347 --> 01:22:53,347
not approving something in a special exception, but I think

1295
01:22:53,347 --> 01:22:56,210
this has been a very healthy discussion. I think this

1296
01:22:56,210 --> 01:22:59,130
board can do it legally. You're legally sound either way

1297
01:22:59,130 --> 01:23:04,685
you want to. Do here. Listen. There's no resolution for

1298
01:23:04,685 --> 01:23:07,929
adoption on today. You can let me know. Take a

1299
01:23:07,929 --> 01:23:10,969
look at the code again, we can talk offline, tell.

1300
01:23:10,969 --> 01:23:13,449
Me how you want to fix it. I'm happy to.

1301
01:23:13,449 --> 01:23:14,889
I think we all know that. The four units per

1302
01:23:14,889 --> 01:23:17,449
acre. Can't have. I mean, that's not. You might as

1303
01:23:17,449 --> 01:23:19,809
well, just throw out planning board does say that those

1304
01:23:19,809 --> 01:23:23,649
standards don't make sense and they should be revisited. What

1305
01:23:23,649 --> 01:23:28,171
did you just say? Special exception standards themselves as they

1306
01:23:28,171 --> 01:23:32,131
are today. Would still be there. You'd have to still

1307
01:23:32,131 --> 01:23:36,929
revisit them. This is a way. To go forward, at

1308
01:23:36,929 --> 01:23:39,609
least in the short term, with something that you know

1309
01:23:39,609 --> 01:23:42,889
you want and allow for it if you do right,

1310
01:23:42,889 --> 01:23:46,147
the boardy barn process. We know we have something that

1311
01:23:46,147 --> 01:23:48,107
wants to be a hotel, and we say, how do

1312
01:23:48,107 --> 01:23:51,267
we confer that use. It's not allowed in highway business.

1313
01:23:51,267 --> 01:23:54,307
Let's give it to everybody. Everywhere in highway business. Or

1314
01:23:54,307 --> 01:23:56,747
let's find a way that they can avail themselves and

1315
01:23:56,747 --> 01:23:59,987
not just for them, but other people, too, where we've

1316
01:23:59,987 --> 01:24:03,827
mapped out, like, a reasonable amount. It's not just a

1317
01:24:03,827 --> 01:24:09,847
class of one. It's across the town. But not overwhelming.

1318
01:24:11,241 --> 01:24:14,464
That's the concern. If you want to do it the

1319
01:24:14,464 --> 01:24:16,944
other way. We already had that drafted and we said

1320
01:24:16,944 --> 01:24:20,384
that's. Kind of overwhelming. There's three hotels on 39, and

1321
01:24:20,384 --> 01:24:22,664
I can guarantee you there would be more if they

1322
01:24:22,664 --> 01:24:27,440
were allowed 100%. So that's the concern, is to be

1323
01:24:27,440 --> 01:24:34,747
more discretionary. Sort of slowly and see how this leads

1324
01:24:34,747 --> 01:24:40,497
versus. Kind of open it up. But again, the decision

1325
01:24:40,497 --> 01:24:42,377
lies with you. You want to do it that way.

1326
01:24:43,983 --> 01:24:45,463
That way is another way. There's more than one way.

1327
01:24:46,939 --> 01:24:48,659
So there's the way that I have said, which is

1328
01:24:48,659 --> 01:24:50,619
a floating zone, and you only take it and use

1329
01:24:50,619 --> 01:24:52,899
it when you want to. The other way is to

1330
01:24:52,899 --> 01:24:55,539
create a special exception. And it's just those standards. But

1331
01:24:55,539 --> 01:24:58,179
anyone can avail themselves. They don't come to. You, they

1332
01:24:58,179 --> 01:25:00,979
go to the planning board. If they meet those standards,

1333
01:25:00,979 --> 01:25:05,948
they get the use. Or. There could be. The only

1334
01:25:05,948 --> 01:25:08,428
other thing is, like, a use variance, which is, like,

1335
01:25:08,428 --> 01:25:12,529
practically impossible. So those are our tools. We're looking at

1336
01:25:12,529 --> 01:25:14,489
the toolbox going, how do we build? This. We only

1337
01:25:14,489 --> 01:25:18,077
have these three things. So it's up to you. Guess

1338
01:25:18,077 --> 01:25:22,117
you could try to refine the special exception standards. To

1339
01:25:22,117 --> 01:25:24,917
make it even that much more narrow. But even you

1340
01:25:24,917 --> 01:25:26,757
can only go so far with that. You can only

1341
01:25:26,757 --> 01:25:28,877
go so far with that, and, I mean, you can

1342
01:25:28,877 --> 01:25:32,617
do that, but. You probably will do that with the

1343
01:25:32,617 --> 01:25:35,377
comp plan updates and then you can extinguish. The floating

1344
01:25:35,377 --> 01:25:38,057
zone if you had enough. We're not there yet. So

1345
01:25:38,057 --> 01:25:39,697
what do you do between now and a comp plan

1346
01:25:39,697 --> 01:25:47,248
update. That's what this solution provides you. But again, I

1347
01:25:47,248 --> 01:25:49,888
don't want you to think I'm pushing anybody onto anything

1348
01:25:49,888 --> 01:25:53,674
because I'm just trying to give you. What you're saying

1349
01:25:53,674 --> 01:25:57,293
you want. We appreciate that you're working with us and

1350
01:25:57,293 --> 01:25:59,893
trying to come up creative. Trying to come up with

1351
01:25:59,893 --> 01:26:02,173
something that we're allowed to do. The state says you're

1352
01:26:02,173 --> 01:26:03,773
allowed to. Do it this way. You are a creature

1353
01:26:03,773 --> 01:26:05,413
of the state, and New York state says this is

1354
01:26:05,413 --> 01:26:10,081
a valid tool. So despite whatever, the planning board doesn't

1355
01:26:10,081 --> 01:26:12,161
favor the use of it, it is a valid planning

1356
01:26:12,161 --> 01:26:15,161
tool. It's been tested in court, and it is absolutely

1357
01:26:15,161 --> 01:26:21,416
permissible. So let me know. Given that it doesn't seem

1358
01:26:21,416 --> 01:26:23,216
like it should be. But you're saying that it is.

1359
01:26:24,578 --> 01:26:27,018
If the state. I think I even sent you the

1360
01:26:27,018 --> 01:26:29,778
case. It ends up being a case by case basis,

1361
01:26:29,778 --> 01:26:33,018
as long as you apply reasonable standards and you give

1362
01:26:33,018 --> 01:26:37,738
justifications for your decision on any particular application, then you

1363
01:26:37,738 --> 01:26:43,343
certainly could be legally sound. Yes. But is a valid

1364
01:26:43,343 --> 01:26:47,380
reason. To. I mean, I know we were saying before,

1365
01:26:47,380 --> 01:26:51,594
if one goes in one location and then another. Is

1366
01:26:51,594 --> 01:26:53,194
just half a mile down the road, and we think.

1367
01:26:54,668 --> 01:26:56,788
That's too close. That, to me, might not be a

1368
01:26:56,788 --> 01:27:02,074
valid reason. Because isn't that anti competition, right? That's what

1369
01:27:02,074 --> 01:27:08,141
you're. Case by case. You're not prohibiting competition. You're saying

1370
01:27:08,141 --> 01:27:12,221
the second one, perhaps, is not promoting the general welfare

1371
01:27:12,221 --> 01:27:14,741
because people have come out and said, you can't put

1372
01:27:14,741 --> 01:27:18,812
that there, that's, near whatever. Somebody is going to have

1373
01:27:18,812 --> 01:27:21,372
an argument as to why that's not a good idea,

1374
01:27:21,372 --> 01:27:25,499
and the general welfare. Is that the population of that

1375
01:27:25,499 --> 01:27:28,179
area is pointing to it saying, we don't want that.

1376
01:27:30,473 --> 01:27:32,633
They want to be able to do that. When it

1377
01:27:32,633 --> 01:27:34,593
comes to playing board, it's very difficult to do that

1378
01:27:34,593 --> 01:27:38,153
when it's just permitted or special exception use, whereas when

1379
01:27:38,153 --> 01:27:42,015
it's. Discretionary. It's much easier. So that's why I'm saying

1380
01:27:42,015 --> 01:27:45,674
put it with you. Because you have more power, discretionary

1381
01:27:45,674 --> 01:27:49,866
power, because you're the legislative body. Makes sense. Yeah, it's

1382
01:27:49,866 --> 01:27:52,266
a little bit more kin to the powers of the

1383
01:27:52,266 --> 01:27:56,570
changes zone. It's the power of zoning. Yeah, definitely. You

1384
01:27:56,570 --> 01:27:59,843
have the power to amend your zoning ordinance. In as

1385
01:27:59,843 --> 01:28:03,683
much as it would promote general welfare. And we're not

1386
01:28:03,683 --> 01:28:07,248
talking about. Competition clauses or anything like that. I'm not

1387
01:28:07,248 --> 01:28:10,610
an attorney, but I'm just saying. We're talking about promoting

1388
01:28:10,610 --> 01:28:13,690
the general welfare. If you have a proliferation of hotels,

1389
01:28:13,690 --> 01:28:17,090
is that promoting the general welfare? Probably not. So you

1390
01:28:17,090 --> 01:28:19,250
would use that as your reason why you're not going

1391
01:28:19,250 --> 01:28:22,602
to have three more. Or something along those lines, but.

1392
01:28:24,401 --> 01:28:27,521
If you say everybody thought, like, we love whatever it

1393
01:28:27,521 --> 01:28:31,001
was, then you could say it does. So. It really

1394
01:28:31,001 --> 01:28:34,441
comes down to your discretion, and that's what this is.

1395
01:28:34,441 --> 01:28:39,114
I understand the supervisor's. Concerns. Me too. Certainly. We can

1396
01:28:39,114 --> 01:28:43,074
go further. There's always the possibility that someone will bring

1397
01:28:43,074 --> 01:28:45,874
an action against whatever. You say and say, and you

1398
01:28:45,874 --> 01:28:50,961
know that firsthand. So, yes, somebody always has the possibility

1399
01:28:50,961 --> 01:28:58,711
to appeal. Thank you. Thanks. Well, I mean, you're right.

1400
01:28:58,711 --> 01:29:00,311
If we're going to change it, it's. Going to be

1401
01:29:00,311 --> 01:29:02,231
a big change, so it would have to get re

1402
01:29:02,231 --> 01:29:05,111
noticed. So I moved to close the public hearing. Leave

1403
01:29:05,111 --> 01:29:09,404
it open for two weeks. Comments. All right. All in

1404
01:29:09,404 --> 01:29:14,879
favor? Aye. Thanks, Janice.

1405
01:29:19,196 --> 01:29:22,996
All right, so that brings us to public portion, and

1406
01:29:22,996 --> 01:29:26,676
we have a card from Eileen McFalen. Eileen, are you

1407
01:29:26,676 --> 01:29:33,611
still with us and want to speak? Thank you. Very

1408
01:29:33,611 --> 01:29:40,196
patient. Yes. Given all that was said, I don't know

1409
01:29:40,196 --> 01:29:43,643
three minutes is going to make it. From him to

1410
01:29:43,643 --> 01:29:46,783
base. I'm just speaking on behalf of my own thoughts,

1411
01:29:46,783 --> 01:29:51,049
not Pacific association today. I'm just going to refer to

1412
01:29:51,049 --> 01:29:52,849
what you were talking about with the floating zone, right?

1413
01:29:52,849 --> 01:29:57,887
Here. I'm not comfortable with it after hearing about it

1414
01:29:57,887 --> 01:30:02,404
over just the last couple of weeks. And I appreciate

1415
01:30:02,404 --> 01:30:05,284
the fact that you're thinking to hold off on something

1416
01:30:05,284 --> 01:30:10,164
that you're. Going to make a zoning code law rule

1417
01:30:10,164 --> 01:30:11,724
that will be on the books for a very long

1418
01:30:11,724 --> 01:30:18,682
time. So with the Indigo Rest hotel in Riverhead, when

1419
01:30:18,682 --> 01:30:21,442
the hotel owner came in, showed us the plans and

1420
01:30:21,442 --> 01:30:25,522
talked to the civic association last year. We had a

1421
01:30:25,522 --> 01:30:28,042
great attendance of people. I'd say there were about 70

1422
01:30:28,042 --> 01:30:31,215
people there. And we took a vote. Who liked it?

1423
01:30:33,161 --> 01:30:35,841
Everybody agreed it would be a great idea, and we

1424
01:30:35,841 --> 01:30:40,904
were all excited. Boardy barn was going. And so what

1425
01:30:40,904 --> 01:30:43,464
was going to place it? This seemed like a very

1426
01:30:43,464 --> 01:30:49,618
good. Beneficial community business to have there. And then it

1427
01:30:49,618 --> 01:30:52,098
never happened. And so we come to find out it's

1428
01:30:52,098 --> 01:30:55,806
a zoning situation. And then when I'm listening to the

1429
01:30:55,806 --> 01:31:01,005
floating. I'm like, Well, what is this business owner really

1430
01:31:01,005 --> 01:31:05,764
waiting on? That the zoning. Is not what he needs

1431
01:31:05,764 --> 01:31:11,078
for approval now. But you have discretionary. Thoughts on whether

1432
01:31:11,078 --> 01:31:16,711
it could be at this time. Or you do not.

1433
01:31:16,711 --> 01:31:18,871
So I don't even know what the hold up is,

1434
01:31:18,871 --> 01:31:21,391
and I'm wondering if they even know what the hold

1435
01:31:21,391 --> 01:31:26,010
up is before we completely lose them. Then the board

1436
01:31:26,010 --> 01:31:30,277
agreed. In the community. I believe everybody is supportive of

1437
01:31:30,277 --> 01:31:33,917
the hotel as the Borty barn location. But it's not

1438
01:31:33,917 --> 01:31:36,117
allowed under the current code, so we were going to

1439
01:31:36,117 --> 01:31:40,928
amend the code. But then the concern to allow the

1440
01:31:40,928 --> 01:31:44,979
hotels in that district. But then the concern was, oh,

1441
01:31:44,979 --> 01:31:46,779
if we do that, maybe there's going to be too.

1442
01:31:46,779 --> 01:31:51,556
Many. So. Let's try doing this floating zone where we

1443
01:31:51,556 --> 01:31:55,756
can put it as we see fit and now, there's

1444
01:31:55,756 --> 01:32:04,399
concerns about that kind of discretion. That's the summary. Of

1445
01:32:04,399 --> 01:32:08,263
the hold up, okay? Well, I have to agree. You

1446
01:32:08,263 --> 01:32:10,383
shouldn't rush on something that's going to remain. There for

1447
01:32:10,383 --> 01:32:13,063
a long time, but I don't think we ever have

1448
01:32:13,063 --> 01:32:18,797
to worry about. In 13 towns, 1400 applicants. At 100

1449
01:32:18,797 --> 01:32:21,437
hotels per town. I don't think that's ever going to

1450
01:32:21,437 --> 01:32:25,877
happen. So thank you, number one, for all the efforts

1451
01:32:25,877 --> 01:32:29,957
that you do to improve Hampton Bays very much. Appreciated

1452
01:32:29,957 --> 01:32:35,552
and it is definitely noticed. I'm here to talk to

1453
01:32:35,552 --> 01:32:39,921
you about. Situation and an issue that I'm not really

1454
01:32:39,921 --> 01:32:42,961
sure if you're talking about and. Working with yet, but

1455
01:32:42,961 --> 01:32:47,734
I was at the planning board the other night. And

1456
01:32:47,734 --> 01:32:51,294
it's about the propane depot that would like to bring

1457
01:32:51,294 --> 01:32:55,796
its business into Hampton. Base. So. I just want to

1458
01:32:55,796 --> 01:32:59,779
enlighten you. What you may not be aware of. First

1459
01:32:59,779 --> 01:33:07,717
of all, I don't even know how the proposal. Gets

1460
01:33:07,717 --> 01:33:09,797
started. I don't know if it started with the planning

1461
01:33:09,797 --> 01:33:14,171
board, and that's. The initial way to start. What they

1462
01:33:14,171 --> 01:33:16,571
want to do and where it goes from there. But

1463
01:33:16,571 --> 01:33:19,851
if it started before the planning. Board. I don't know

1464
01:33:19,851 --> 01:33:22,741
how it even got to the planning board. I did

1465
01:33:22,741 --> 01:33:26,421
use the word ridiculous. Thought that it could go where

1466
01:33:26,421 --> 01:33:28,981
it is. The other day I'm going to continue with

1467
01:33:28,981 --> 01:33:33,181
that. It is a ridiculous thought to think that that

1468
01:33:33,181 --> 01:33:36,901
type of business can go where they're asking to go.

1469
01:33:38,427 --> 01:33:41,347
So where they want it is right next door to

1470
01:33:41,347 --> 01:33:46,935
another propane storage facility. The facility now has been in

1471
01:33:46,935 --> 01:33:50,836
business for 70 something years. They've been in that position

1472
01:33:50,836 --> 01:33:54,716
for 15 years. They have never had a safety issue.

1473
01:33:54,716 --> 01:33:59,933
Never. They've got 80,000 gallons of propane on their property.

1474
01:34:01,432 --> 01:34:08,512
But propane depot wants to have $80,000 store 80,000 gallons

1475
01:34:08,512 --> 01:34:14,762
of storage. Right there on the same property, so. It's

1476
01:34:14,762 --> 01:34:18,275
not miles away. It's right there. So I did talk

1477
01:34:18,275 --> 01:34:20,835
to the owner of Quugs and Claire and I said,

1478
01:34:20,835 --> 01:34:23,258
well, It's the fact that you don't have enough, you

1479
01:34:23,258 --> 01:34:27,604
don't service enough. Do you plan on getting more storage

1480
01:34:27,604 --> 01:34:30,964
tanks? And I said, absolutely not. We're good with what

1481
01:34:30,964 --> 01:34:33,764
we've got going. We have a plan. We don't plan

1482
01:34:33,764 --> 01:34:36,484
on adding more. In the future. So does that mean

1483
01:34:36,484 --> 01:34:40,511
propane depot just plans on taking over all of. Quad

1484
01:34:40,511 --> 01:34:45,651
Sinclair business. If, in fact, it tries to, that means

1485
01:34:45,651 --> 01:34:50,976
you are agreeing to put. A local business owner out

1486
01:34:50,976 --> 01:34:55,136
of business for somebody who doesn't live there. So what

1487
01:34:55,136 --> 01:34:59,543
benefit is it to our community? In opinion of not

1488
01:34:59,543 --> 01:35:04,826
just mine, but many people. Zero benefit. So why approve

1489
01:35:04,826 --> 01:35:08,586
it? 30 seconds. This is not before this board, right?

1490
01:35:08,586 --> 01:35:13,227
That's. In the planning board. So just to keep in

1491
01:35:13,227 --> 01:35:19,454
mind that. Rapid recovery moved. And so with them moving,

1492
01:35:19,454 --> 01:35:23,574
we've got less traffic in that very exact intersection, which

1493
01:35:23,574 --> 01:35:27,414
is a good thing. Medical center built, going to open

1494
01:35:27,414 --> 01:35:30,734
up eventually, so we're going to have more traffic, maybe

1495
01:35:30,734 --> 01:35:32,134
not so much trucks, but we're going to have a

1496
01:35:32,134 --> 01:35:34,174
lot of traffic in and out. So now you put

1497
01:35:34,174 --> 01:35:38,784
propane depot. There with trucks and cars all congested in

1498
01:35:38,784 --> 01:35:43,001
that very small space. Ridiculous. It's the only word I

1499
01:35:43,001 --> 01:35:47,883
can think that makes sense. Time is up. Safety. Yeah,

1500
01:35:47,883 --> 01:35:51,553
I already talked about that. So that's what I wanted

1501
01:35:51,553 --> 01:35:54,673
you to be aware of in case it comes to

1502
01:35:54,673 --> 01:35:58,565
you. And we appreciate all you do. Thank you very

1503
01:35:58,565 --> 01:36:04,956
much. Thank you. All right. Andrew. Peter, is there anybody

1504
01:36:04,956 --> 01:36:09,777
on Zoom for public portions to another program? Someone just

1505
01:36:09,777 --> 01:36:12,097
raised their hand. Okay, bring them on.

1506
01:36:30,113 --> 01:36:30,153
No.

1507
01:36:41,132 --> 01:36:41,172
But.

1508
01:36:51,702 --> 01:36:58,172
Can you hear me? Hi. Yes. Welcome, councilman, welcome. Hello,

1509
01:36:58,172 --> 01:36:59,932
my name is David Lee, so I'm calling you. No

1510
01:36:59,932 --> 01:37:03,332
official capacity at all. I'm the calling. I try to

1511
01:37:03,332 --> 01:37:06,012
get on for the public hearing. Number one, I apologize.

1512
01:37:06,012 --> 01:37:08,975
I could not do that. But I can't keep for

1513
01:37:08,975 --> 01:37:12,175
the time to speak. Now, my name is David Lees.

1514
01:37:12,175 --> 01:37:14,255
I'm calling from your neighboring couch at the beast. Hansen.

1515
01:37:14,255 --> 01:37:18,007
I'm calling you. No. Official capacity. At all. I'm calling

1516
01:37:18,007 --> 01:37:22,274
my own behalf. Dear supervisor Moore, a distinguished supervisor. More

1517
01:37:22,274 --> 01:37:25,034
than other distinguished members of the town council, I'm calling

1518
01:37:25,034 --> 01:37:27,874
the capacity as a former member of citizens for access

1519
01:37:27,874 --> 01:37:31,314
rights and advocate of public beach access and safe, enjoyable,

1520
01:37:31,314 --> 01:37:35,834
beast driving. Beach Access is a regional importance and regional

1521
01:37:35,834 --> 01:37:40,386
southeastern and east tape combined. In that. The continued and

1522
01:37:40,386 --> 01:37:43,986
increasingly need for public reach, access to our beaches and

1523
01:37:43,986 --> 01:37:46,506
waterways. It's a ripeness and desired by our residents in

1524
01:37:46,506 --> 01:37:50,986
1686. Your potential actions, on length, I believe, are harmonious

1525
01:37:50,986 --> 01:37:53,746
with the town's comp plan and also the general obligation

1526
01:37:53,746 --> 01:37:57,226
law of the CPS as far as coastal resiliency and

1527
01:37:57,226 --> 01:38:01,103
open space and providing recreational opportunities. You will be providing

1528
01:38:01,103 --> 01:38:05,303
the future generations of opportunities to recreate a southeastern town

1529
01:38:05,303 --> 01:38:08,063
species in perpetuity I commend all of you for your

1530
01:38:08,063 --> 01:38:11,823
fort sight, courage and dedication to continue. The efficacy of

1531
01:38:11,823 --> 01:38:15,423
the public's desire to access the greatest natural resources that

1532
01:38:15,423 --> 01:38:18,663
our towns have. Is speeches. I thank you again for

1533
01:38:18,663 --> 01:38:22,029
allowing me to speak. Have a nice night. Thank you.

1534
01:38:22,029 --> 01:38:24,109
And thank you for your comments. Thank you council, for

1535
01:38:24,109 --> 01:38:33,795
participating. All right. There's no other comments. I

1536
01:38:33,795 --> 01:38:37,275
moved to close public portion. I have one comment. Oh,

1537
01:38:37,275 --> 01:38:43,264
please. Go ahead. Turn your mic on. Since it's a

1538
01:38:43,264 --> 01:38:46,224
public portion, I just want to wish the other council

1539
01:38:46,224 --> 01:38:52,892
person happy birthday. Thank you. Thank you. Had a very

1540
01:38:52,892 --> 01:38:59,202
nice birthday. Very far away from here. Are you ready

1541
01:38:59,202 --> 01:39:03,149
to go back to work? I am. You can close

1542
01:39:03,149 --> 01:39:06,069
it. Thank you. All right, I need a second. 2nd

1543
01:39:06,069 --> 01:39:09,832
all in favor? Aye. All right, let's move ahead with

1544
01:39:09,832 --> 01:39:16,220
the resolution. Town Board Resolution 33 of 2026. Award and

1545
01:39:16,220 --> 01:39:20,140
authorized supervisor signed contract with Quintel contracting. Corp. For tree

1546
01:39:20,140 --> 01:39:26,142
clearing at plant number three. Second. All in favor? Aye.

1547
01:39:26,142 --> 01:39:32,610
Town Board resolution 2026. Authorize purchases from WB Mason Company

1548
01:39:32,610 --> 01:39:37,090
incorporated using Suffolk county and eastern Suffolk bo seas contracts.

1549
01:39:37,090 --> 01:39:41,050
Second all in favor? Aye. Town Board resolution 43 of

1550
01:39:41,050 --> 01:39:44,650
2026. Award and authorized supervisor to sign a contract with

1551
01:39:44,650 --> 01:39:49,914
sax utility Solutions, LLC for water meter replacement. Second. All

1552
01:39:49,914 --> 01:39:57,248
in favor? Aye. On board resolution. 2026. To authorize the

1553
01:39:57,248 --> 01:40:00,768
acceptance of a donation of abandoned vehicle from the police

1554
01:40:00,768 --> 01:40:06,122
department, second and co. Sponsor, Madam Clerk. All in favor?

1555
01:40:06,122 --> 01:40:14,393
Aye. Town Board resolution 2026. 92 to authorize the supervisor

1556
01:40:14,393 --> 01:40:17,713
to sign any and all documents with iWork Systems Inc.

1557
01:40:17,713 --> 01:40:22,569
For Cloud hosted software. All in favor? Town Board resolution

1558
01:40:22,569 --> 01:40:27,458
2026. To authorize the supervisor to sign any and all

1559
01:40:27,458 --> 01:40:32,698
documents with source pass contemporary, LLC to provide immediate assistance

1560
01:40:32,698 --> 01:40:36,858
on a bank hours basis to resolve town's network connectivity

1561
01:40:36,858 --> 01:40:41,611
issues. Second, all in favor. Aye. Board resolution 94 of

1562
01:40:41,611 --> 01:40:44,811
2026, authorize the supervisor to execute any and all documents

1563
01:40:44,811 --> 01:40:48,691
pertaining to the 2026 transportation contract with Suffolk county office

1564
01:40:48,691 --> 01:40:53,251
for the agent second. All in favor? Aye. Town? Board

1565
01:40:53,251 --> 01:40:57,091
Resolution 95 of 2026 authorized supervisors execute a contract with

1566
01:40:57,091 --> 01:40:59,211
Supa county office for the aging for the home maintenance

1567
01:40:59,211 --> 01:41:04,039
repair program. Second. All in favor? Aye. Town board resolution

1568
01:41:04,039 --> 01:41:13,356
2020. Six. Authorized supervisor. Signed contract with Al McClain, associate

1569
01:41:13,356 --> 01:41:18,036
engineer survey DPC for professional engineer service associated with design

1570
01:41:18,036 --> 01:41:22,036
permitted for stormwater quality improvement at shore Road and yacht

1571
01:41:22,036 --> 01:41:28,058
drive in reps and second. All in favor? Aye. Town

1572
01:41:28,058 --> 01:41:34,367
Board resolution 2026. Authorized to change order professional service related

1573
01:41:34,367 --> 01:41:39,590
to the engineer service. At Penny park with Alkay McLean,

1574
01:41:39,590 --> 01:41:44,405
association engineer and survey second. All in favor? Aye. We're

1575
01:41:44,405 --> 01:41:49,407
getting closer. Town Board resolution 98 of 2026 recalling Amend

1576
01:41:49,407 --> 01:41:54,647
Town Board resolution number 2025 1529. Authorize the supervisor to

1577
01:41:54,647 --> 01:41:57,967
execute an agreement with Long island telecommunications and Electronic Services,

1578
01:41:57,967 --> 01:42:01,087
Inc. For the portable radios the Hampton Bays Water District

1579
01:42:01,087 --> 01:42:09,479
second. All in favor? Aye. Resolution 2026. 99 authorized supervisors

1580
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:13,599
dismit a grant application for the 2025 26 local government

1581
01:42:13,599 --> 01:42:18,264
official grant program for Regent Marine operates insurance. I asked

1582
01:42:18,264 --> 01:42:19,944
other town board members if they would like to co

1583
01:42:19,944 --> 01:42:25,487
sponsor this with me. Sure. 1 second. Yes, thank you.

1584
01:42:27,882 --> 01:42:34,801
All in favor? Michael. Town Board Resolution 2026 100 authorized,

1585
01:42:34,801 --> 01:42:39,201
supervised to submit a grant application for the 2025 26

1586
01:42:39,201 --> 01:42:44,748
local government efficient grant program to Regent stormwater. And maintenance

1587
01:42:44,748 --> 01:42:48,348
share service project second and co sponsor. Yes. I like

1588
01:42:48,348 --> 01:42:50,948
the whole town. Would it do? This. Please be glad

1589
01:42:50,948 --> 01:42:55,075
to know. And these two grants are. Yes. These two

1590
01:42:55,075 --> 01:43:01,346
grants, what we applying for? Rescue barge and a backpack.

1591
01:43:05,193 --> 01:43:11,304
With other. Villages. Yeah. And it's really great for shared

1592
01:43:11,304 --> 01:43:15,665
services. We'll all benefit from that. Yes. All in favor?

1593
01:43:15,665 --> 01:43:20,905
Aye. Aye. Town Board resolution 103 of 2026. Recall and

1594
01:43:20,905 --> 01:43:25,265
Amend Town Board resolution 2020 511 eight authorize the supervisor

1595
01:43:25,265 --> 01:43:28,585
to sign a contract extension with York Analytical Laboratories Inc.

1596
01:43:28,585 --> 01:43:30,945
To provide water analysis to the Hampton based water District.

1597
01:43:30,945 --> 01:43:39,133
Second, all. In favor? Aye. Town Board resolution 2026.

1598
01:43:41,817 --> 01:43:46,177
108 authorized pushes of road salt and treated salt and

1599
01:43:46,177 --> 01:43:50,937
emergency standby. Road salt from New York State OGS contract

1600
01:43:50,937 --> 01:43:58,043
from Atlantic Salt Inc. And appliance, LLC. Second. All in

1601
01:43:58,043 --> 01:44:05,818
favor? Aye. Reservoir Finn 2026. 0109 authorized who fires the

1602
01:44:05,818 --> 01:44:10,178
sign contract extend with United Metro Energy Corp. For ultra

1603
01:44:10,178 --> 01:44:15,300
low diesel fuel second. All in favor? Aye. Town Board

1604
01:44:15,300 --> 01:44:24,240
resolution 2026 co sponsored with Tom Naily. 2026.

1605
01:44:25,893 --> 01:44:29,613
For 2026. Notice submitted for glass crusher at North Sea

1606
01:44:29,613 --> 01:44:38,341
Transport station. All second. All in favor? Aye. Town board

1607
01:44:38,341 --> 01:44:48,328
resolution. 2026. Notice the bidder for street sign

1608
01:44:48,328 --> 01:44:54,218
blanks and trucked seats and traffic mocking second. All in

1609
01:44:54,218 --> 01:44:59,094
favor? Town Board resolution 81 of 2026, co sponsored with

1610
01:44:59,094 --> 01:45:02,614
council person Pell authorized first time home buyers down payment

1611
01:45:02,614 --> 01:45:08,187
assistance funding from the community housing fund. Second. Town board

1612
01:45:08,187 --> 01:45:11,627
resolution 2026. I cut you off after you called for

1613
01:45:11,627 --> 01:45:17,513
the vote. Was it just you being. I just asked

1614
01:45:17,513 --> 01:45:20,713
to add myself. You always want to add. Yes. Can

1615
01:45:20,713 --> 01:45:24,428
I get added to that too, please. Hear what's going

1616
01:45:24,428 --> 01:45:25,708
on at the other end. Did you want to be

1617
01:45:25,708 --> 01:45:29,662
added or your voting or. What are you doing? Want

1618
01:45:29,662 --> 01:45:32,262
to be added to the first time home buyer resolution.

1619
01:45:32,262 --> 01:45:37,384
Okay. Yeah. Okay, so the whole board. I can't hear

1620
01:45:37,384 --> 01:45:41,024
what you're saying. Yes, for me, please. Okay, so I'll.

1621
01:45:41,024 --> 01:45:44,479
Just add Tom. Then we just need to vote. All

1622
01:45:44,479 --> 01:45:50,728
right. All in favor? Aye. Sorry. Town Board resolution 2026.

1623
01:45:52,159 --> 01:45:55,959
To authorize the town attorney to accept settlement from National

1624
01:45:55,959 --> 01:45:59,679
Union Fire Insurance Company for damage to a Southampton town

1625
01:45:59,679 --> 01:46:09,182
playground. Second. All in favor? With

1626
01:46:09,182 --> 01:46:18,314
these? Yes. Sponsor with Michael Isil. At Town Board resolution

1627
01:46:18,314 --> 01:46:24,264
2026. Resolution to adopt the Mantown code. Chapter 312. Vehicles

1628
01:46:24,264 --> 01:46:31,664
and traffic, article five, turning movement section 312. 72.2 right

1629
01:46:31,664 --> 01:46:37,529
turns forbidden. Second. All in favor? This one I'm going

1630
01:46:37,529 --> 01:46:42,957
to have to amend on the floor. It's co sponsored

1631
01:46:42,957 --> 01:46:51,837
with Mike Azilla. Again, councilman resolution 2026. Resolution to adopt

1632
01:46:51,837 --> 01:46:56,484
the man Town code 312 vehicles and traffic. I moved

1633
01:46:56,484 --> 01:47:02,109
to amend for. The subscription error on page 35. The

1634
01:47:02,109 --> 01:47:06,509
two changes that indicated north and south should say south

1635
01:47:06,509 --> 01:47:14,023
on page 37 where it indicates. Should be. Second to

1636
01:47:14,023 --> 01:47:22,080
the amendment. Just one amendment. Page 37. It's 35 and

1637
01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:29,535
37. Boredom drive and lynn road. Three new stop signs

1638
01:47:29,535 --> 01:47:34,734
in Hampton Bays, south of Montreal Highway. So, all in

1639
01:47:34,734 --> 01:47:41,238
favor to the amendment? Aye. As amended. As amended. Same

1640
01:47:41,238 --> 01:47:44,758
second. All in favor? Aye. I'm going to abstain. I

1641
01:47:44,758 --> 01:47:47,478
wasn't part of the board during the public hearing process

1642
01:47:47,478 --> 01:47:48,918
for that, so I'll abstain.

1643
01:48:03,052 --> 01:48:10,481
Again sponsored with Michael Azilla Town Council. 2026. After three

1644
01:48:10,481 --> 01:48:14,721
crawl vehicles and traffic for purpose of removing three yield

1645
01:48:14,721 --> 01:48:22,283
intersection enhancement south and Montrock highway second. Thank you. The

1646
01:48:22,283 --> 01:48:27,505
rooms being replaced with the stop sign. Yes. All in

1647
01:48:27,505 --> 01:48:30,905
favor? Aye. I'll abstain again. I wasn't at that public

1648
01:48:30,905 --> 01:48:38,491
hearing. Wasn't on the board. Again co sponsor, councilman Michael

1649
01:48:38,491 --> 01:48:45,949
Azilla. Resolution 2026. Resolution to adopt the Mentown code. Chapter

1650
01:48:45,949 --> 01:48:50,909
312, vehicles and traffic, article three stop sign, intersection 312

1651
01:48:50,909 --> 01:48:56,713
at East Cork Tyana and Hembase Hamilton. Section north of

1652
01:48:56,713 --> 01:49:03,928
Montok highway. Second. We had the public hearing. Yes. All

1653
01:49:03,928 --> 01:49:11,991
in favor? Town Board resolution 2026. Conic Bay Region Community

1654
01:49:11,991 --> 01:49:17,431
Preservation Fund Tax refund to thoroughbred title Services LLC regarding

1655
01:49:17,431 --> 01:49:23,885
a tax overpayment. Second. All in favor? Town Board resolution

1656
01:49:23,885 --> 01:49:27,605
44 of 2026, co sponsored with council members Tell and

1657
01:49:27,605 --> 01:49:31,125
Ayasilli authorizing an installation of three new street lights on

1658
01:49:31,125 --> 01:49:35,565
Noyak Road and Noyak second. All in favor? Aye. Town

1659
01:49:35,565 --> 01:49:42,133
board resolution 2026. To appoint Frank Belson to custodial worker

1660
01:49:42,133 --> 01:49:46,916
two, and municipal works second. All in favor? Town Board

1661
01:49:46,916 --> 01:49:53,790
resolution 2026. Craig Carroll to maintenance mechanic. Two in municipal

1662
01:49:53,790 --> 01:50:01,082
works second. All in favor? Aye. Town Board resolution 2026.

1663
01:50:02,499 --> 01:50:06,339
To appoint Robert McConnell to custodial worker. Two in municipal

1664
01:50:06,339 --> 01:50:11,726
work second. All in favor? Aye. Town Board resolution 2026.

1665
01:50:13,025 --> 01:50:17,265
To appoint Brandon Martinez Jimenez to sanitation helper in waste

1666
01:50:17,265 --> 01:50:23,234
management. Second. All in favor? Aye. And Town Board Resolution

1667
01:50:23,234 --> 01:50:28,874
2026 10 one to accept the retirement of Eric Benson.

1668
01:50:28,874 --> 01:50:34,784
Second all in favor. Congratulations to everyone. Town Board resolution

1669
01:50:34,784 --> 01:50:39,504
105 of 2026 resolution co sponsored with council members Pell

1670
01:50:39,504 --> 01:50:43,024
and Aya silly. And supervisor Moore resolution setting a public

1671
01:50:43,024 --> 01:50:46,584
hearing to amend chapter 111 in connection with special parking.

1672
01:50:46,584 --> 01:50:51,664
Permits. Second on the motion. This is to amend the

1673
01:50:51,664 --> 01:50:56,719
town code. And to continue to allow East Hampton town

1674
01:50:56,719 --> 01:51:00,862
residents that live in the village of Sag Harbor. To

1675
01:51:00,862 --> 01:51:06,109
purchase permits. That allow them access. To Long beach, but

1676
01:51:06,109 --> 01:51:11,063
they will no longer be permitted to. Buy passes that

1677
01:51:11,063 --> 01:51:14,983
allow access to our ocean beaches of W. Scott, Cameron,

1678
01:51:14,983 --> 01:51:19,663
Sagmain and Mecox. Beach. We have found that the lost

1679
01:51:19,663 --> 01:51:23,990
revenue on those. Is quite a lot of money and.

1680
01:51:25,594 --> 01:51:29,234
Also, Scott W. Cameron is a resident only beach, and

1681
01:51:29,234 --> 01:51:33,380
those beaches have become very crowded. And so it doesn't

1682
01:51:33,380 --> 01:51:37,140
seem right to take access from town residents away and

1683
01:51:37,140 --> 01:51:41,260
sell access. To east Hampton Town residents, they will still

1684
01:51:41,260 --> 01:51:43,260
have access to Long beach because that was in the

1685
01:51:43,260 --> 01:51:45,700
deed for Long beach that they have to have access.

1686
01:51:45,700 --> 01:51:48,580
But if they want to enjoy our the town, ocean

1687
01:51:48,580 --> 01:51:51,460
beaches. They have to buy a non resident permit. But

1688
01:51:51,460 --> 01:51:55,432
we love our east ham. Hampton neighbors. Yes. That's on

1689
01:51:55,432 --> 01:52:02,769
for January 2727. 2nd. All in favor? Aye. Downboard resolution

1690
01:52:02,769 --> 01:52:09,225
2026. 10. Two to authorize the acquisition. Of cosponsored by

1691
01:52:09,225 --> 01:52:12,865
council member Aya Silly to authorize the acquisition of an

1692
01:52:12,865 --> 01:52:16,945
historic preservation and conservation easement on property located at eleven

1693
01:52:16,945 --> 01:52:19,665
Walnut Avenue in the hamlet of East Quag and to

1694
01:52:19,665 --> 01:52:23,265
amend the community Preservation project plan and the CPF management

1695
01:52:23,265 --> 01:52:26,545
and stewardship plan to include said property. Second, all in

1696
01:52:26,545 --> 01:52:35,853
favor. And then with the two walk on. Town Board

1697
01:52:35,853 --> 01:52:42,053
resolution id number 202-6159 co sponsored by council member Pell

1698
01:52:42,053 --> 01:52:45,213
to authorize the supervisor to execute a contract with all

1699
01:52:45,213 --> 01:52:49,773
island testing Associates, Inc. For professional services related to special

1700
01:52:49,773 --> 01:52:53,853
building inspections at the West Hampton Community center. Second, they

1701
01:52:53,853 --> 01:52:56,858
have to test the concrete. And their compaction. Make sure

1702
01:52:56,858 --> 01:52:59,698
everything's being done properly. Better to test it now and

1703
01:52:59,698 --> 01:53:04,686
deal with it later. All in favor? Aye. We should

1704
01:53:04,686 --> 01:53:06,766
tell them a quick brief about the meeting we had

1705
01:53:06,766 --> 01:53:10,757
up there on Monday. Had a progress meeting. With all

1706
01:53:10,757 --> 01:53:13,877
the contractors, and they're all very motivated. The footings have

1707
01:53:13,877 --> 01:53:17,197
been poured and. Now they're putting up the rebar so

1708
01:53:17,197 --> 01:53:19,917
they can pour the foundation. This was the week to

1709
01:53:19,917 --> 01:53:29,712
pour. They were putting the Friday moles. Molest Town

1710
01:53:29,712 --> 01:53:35,722
Board resolution id number 20261. Six two. Yes, the warrant.

1711
01:53:35,722 --> 01:53:39,162
Number one. Capital number one. CPS number one of January

1712
01:53:39,162 --> 01:53:45,081
13, 2026. 2nd all in favor? Aye. That's it. Anybody

1713
01:53:45,081 --> 01:53:52,190
got ale? Anything else? All right. There's no further business.

1714
01:53:52,190 --> 01:53:54,830
Then I moved to just can't wait one more last.

1715
01:53:54,830 --> 01:53:57,350
Time. Just can't wait to go use that on new

1716
01:53:57,350 --> 01:54:04,602
beach. Yeah. Next week. A couple of weeks. All right,

1717
01:54:04,602 --> 01:54:07,362
so I moved to close the meeting. Second. All in

1718
01:54:07,362 --> 01:54:11,848
favor? Thanks, everyone. Thank you, everyone. Thank you. It's interesting

1719
01:54:11,848 --> 01:54:12,288
that dave.