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So we're going to get going. If everyone could please sign in onto your computer.

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We now have the password is go scag, all in lower case.

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So if you can select your name and then the password in lower case, go scag.

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Go scag. Go scag. Yes.

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So you select your name and then you can sign in and we can go ahead and...

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I will call the meeting to order at, it's 9.59. Any minute now? Okay. We'll call the meeting

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to order. And with that, Vice-Chair Pollock, will you lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance?

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I'd be honored to. Place your right hand over your heart. Ready, begin. I pledge allegiance

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to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands,

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One Nation under God, Indivisible with Liberty and Justice for All.

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Thank you.

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And at this time, we have one public comments card, and that is with Leon Alpern.

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Are you here?

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Hi, good morning.

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There we go.

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Good morning.

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Madam Chair, members of the committee, Leon Alpern, South Coast Air Quality Management District.

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And I just have a few quick announcements.

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Next Thursday is going to be our environmental justice conference called Building Alliances

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and Progressive Solutions.

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It's actually going to be here in downtown Los Angeles at the cathedral.

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Just a few blocks away from here, SCAG is a co-sponsor of this event.

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It's free to attend.

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We just asked folks to register ahead of time.

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Happy to report we have over 400 people registered for this phenomenal event.

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And there's still some room left for anyone else who would like to join us.

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Again, it's the fifth time we're doing this event.

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Environmental justice is a very important issue for the region,

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also for SCAG and the development of the regional transportation plan

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and our air quality management plans.

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So I invite you and any of your community stakeholders

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who are interested in attending this event to register.

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And then next month, on October 4th,

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will be the annual Clean Air Awards.

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also held here in downtown Los Angeles just a couple blocks away from here on

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Figueroa. That's going to be on Friday, October 4th. And like-to-deficials are

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invited as our guests to attend and any, you know, request for information on that

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SCAC staff habit or you're welcome to contact me. Those are the two upcoming

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events I wanted to highlight for you. Also, tomorrow's our monthly meeting

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of our governing board meeting. You can watch it streaming on our YouTube

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A particular interest will be the AB617 program.

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This will be a heavily focused meeting on AB617, the three communities, which were the

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focus of the year one, which we're currently wrapping up, and also the two communities

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being proposed for year two.

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And all that information is available on our website, aqmd.gov, and again, you

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can watch it live or on playback over our YouTube channel.

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Finally, I just want to mention, again, we have our new smartphone app.

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I know there was a great amount of interest in this when I've announced it in the past I think you sir

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We're very interested in it from Riverside. I think yes

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And great great. Well, thank you. We're getting great feedback and please tell folks

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We want to continually modify this and make it better. It gives you also the temperature

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Does have a connection to air pollution. So I urge folks to download the app. Thank you very much

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Thank you for your comments. Also note that October 2nd is Clean Air Day, and you can go to cleanairday.org and sign up.

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And every city and county and all did a project on that day. That would be excellent.

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In Ventura County, we're looking at coordinating all the college campuses to plant trees, for example, on that day.

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So you can all participate. This will be the second anniversary of Clean Air Day sponsored by the Coalition for Clean Air.

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I also wanted to announce before we move on to the Consent Calendar,

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I call your attention to Agenda Item 2 on your agenda packet,

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and that's September is California Pedestrian Safety Month,

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dedicated to reducing the number of pedestrians killed and injured on California roadways.

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Staff's conducting activities throughout September to recognize

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during a walkover for the month of October.

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The SCAG region experienced a period of annual declines in traffic-related fatalities, both

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pedestrian and bicyclists, until 2012 when it began to steadily rise, and the number

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of both pedestrian and bicyclists killed are now at the highest they have been for

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That's something you can take back to your communities and let them know.

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So we need to do what we can, and at SCAGS, their Go Human Campaign is an Active Transportation

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Safety Encouragement Campaign, and it was a really successful campaign in terms of getting

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interested in how to pursue that, particularly with the emphasis on walktober.

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parklet from the GoHuman kit of parts.

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to be right under agenda item 5. And on agenda item 5, which we'll go to after consent calendar,

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we'll have Sarah Jeffson presenting. So at this time, I'm going to go ahead and go to the consent calendar,

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and this is the approval of the minutes, as well as the reports items 2, 3, and 4.

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We have a motion.

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Do we have a second?

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And we have these wonderful machines that we can vote on the motion.

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If you could...

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We're using the...

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Go to your cool little blackberry kind of things.

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And so if you're for it, you push the one button, for example.

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Not telling you how to vote.

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Everyone's got their card in.

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That was in your name plate.

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And then you can push a button.

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Now we know how to do it.

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Let's go to our first information item.

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Again, this is with Sarah Jepsen,

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Cool. Good morning. I'm actually here this morning with Joseph Crier as well, who's going to talk more about the electric vehicle piece of the presentation.

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But my role here is to kind of set the context on where we are with Connect SoCal, our regional transportation plan and sustainable community strategy, which you've now been hearing for several months.

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So we're in the final stretch. We have about, well, final stretch before the draft is released.

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We have three more meetings.

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So in this meeting, we'll be talking about some of those strategies in the plan that help us to achieve our greenhouse gas reduction targets.

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And then we'll bring another set of those strategies to you during the October meeting.

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And then in November, we are – well, all the committees will get back together to talk about the full plan and its totality and the performance metrics that we use to evaluate its success.

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You mean walktober, right?

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And walktober.

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We'll make sure to highlight the extra transportation pieces in walktober.

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So this is just a reminder of where we've been and where we're going, as I had mentioned.

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And when Comey talked to the Joint Policy Committee in August, he talked about the

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broad range of goals and performance metrics we're trying to achieve through our plan.

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And today, I'm going to focus a little bit more in on the greenhouse gas reduction target.

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Especially within this committee, you are familiar that one of our big goals of the plan is to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and to meet the requirements of SB 375.

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And that includes the development of a sustainable community strategy that's integrated with our transportation plan to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

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If our sustainable community strategy is not able to achieve our targets we do have an option of developing an alternative planning strategy.

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However, this is something that we've looked in through as we've developed the plan as our targets get farther and harder to reach.

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But we're pretty confident at this point with some of our preliminary modeling that we're going to be able to reach our goal.

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And so we do plan on pursuing the SES as opposed to the APS.

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So, as a reminder, the goal is to reduce greenhouse gas emissions per capita, and in order to prove that we are achieving those goals, we have to develop a technical methodology that is approved by the Air Resources Board so that we're all clear on and have a robust manner in which we are estimating our emission reductions.

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So a couple of things about hitting the target this cycle compared to previous cycles.

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We have some greater policy challenges.

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And then we have a 2035 target, which in our last plan, the target was 13% below 2005 levels.

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And for this plan, the rules have changed, and we now need to achieve a 19% reduction.

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So there's a 6% increase in the reduction that we have to achieve,

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so it makes it more challenging for us to achieve the goal this time around.

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than it was last time we developed the plan.

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So we have 15 years to achieve that goal with this Connect SoCal plan versus the 19 years

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that we had in the last time we developed the plan.

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The state has also provided greater incentives or greater penalties, however you would

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like to look at it if we do not hit our targets.

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The SB2 funding program has specific ties to penalties if a region does not achieve its target through its SES.

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And two particular programs, the Solutions for Congested Corridors and the Trade Corridor Enhancement Program,

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it's written into the law that if you don't hit your target, you aren't going to be eligible for those funds.

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So that's about $500 million per year that we wouldn't be able to compete for as a region.

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the guidelines and the process for you being competitive for those funds, there's going

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to be consideration on whether your region is hitting the greenhouse gas reduction target.

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So we think, you know, it's very important for us to maintain competitive for these

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resources that we really do our best and put our best foot forward on achieving the

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I won't get into too many of the details of this, but also just wanting to highlight

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that we have some technical challenges this time around, too.

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And the technical challenges have just put a little bit more uncertainty into our process.

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we have a new model.

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And so it's taking us a little bit longer to discuss the model with the Air Resources

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board and make sure that we're all on the same page about the assumptions and

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other pieces of the model so that so that everyone is comfortable with the

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way in which we are we are assessing the impact of our plan. So the model will

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be a great tool. It has a lot more sensitivities than our previous models

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but in the short term it does cause this uncertainty which has made it a

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little bit more challenging as we move through this process.

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Another technical challenge which is also an opportunity is as you look around you notice

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transportation has changed quite significantly and even in the last four years we have e-scooters

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and more bike share and TNCs and all of this and so our models and tools weren't developed

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to project the impacts of these new technologies and we don't have a whole lot of good data

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in order to develop the tools that will help us model these strategies.

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So it's a challenge for us, and it's also a really exciting opportunity where we can work with the Air Resources Board

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to try to develop some new off-model strategies to assess the impacts.

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So, again, this technical challenge we have just inserts a little bit more uncertainty into the process,

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but it's something that we're working through.

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As we assess our traditional strategy or strategies that we put in the on-model piece of our analysis,

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we're looking at a 11 to 13 percent reduction in greenhouse gas emissions per capita.

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So we feel pretty good about that.

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And then when you add it to our off-model analysis, which again...

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To assess some of these more innovative strategies, we get a 6-7% reduction. To give you the range

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of where we are, we're between 17% reduction and 20% reduction, and we need to be at 19.

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We will be pushing really hard over the next month, and working with you all to explain

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the strategies that we are putting into the plan in order to make sure that we can hit

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this target.

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The other thing that, you know, just pointing out, as you can see from the numbers in this

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six to 7% reduction we get from our innovative strategies, innovation is a key part of hitting

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So again, we are continuing to push and developing new ways of improving mobility

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within the region as well as finding ways to evaluate the impacts of that new mobility

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with our modeling tools.

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I think this committee talked a little bit about SB150 and there being an overall interest in the state

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in making sure that we're not just modeling the impact of our plans,

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but we actually then are reaching targets.

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And so the state wants to see that, again, in addition to modeling,

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you do have some ways in which you're working to implement your plan.

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So they're looking at that a little bit more closely.

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And so, as you see this plan roll out, you'll also see a stronger focus on the way SCAD

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can work with the county transportation commissions and the cities to advance the concepts in

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And a piece of that that is, I guess, made easier by our strategies is a lot of these

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new and innovative strategies that we have in the plan are going to require a lot of

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local engagement and work with our cities.

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things like bike shares and scooters and some of our transportation demand

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management programs. Those are programs that we work with with cities and they

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can be implemented much faster than say building a huge expanse of the freeway

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or building a new transit line. So a lot of these innovative strategies will

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require collaboration with local jurisdictions like you all to move

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forward and advance the goals of the plan.

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of the things that we're thinking about in terms of regional initiatives that we'd be

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working on with our local agencies.

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This includes kind of broader goals of the plan.

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We want to continue to work on resilience of the system with the impending impacts of

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climate change.

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Safety is going to be a key piece of continuing to advance the goals of our plan.

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And then we are also looking at ways we can be more effective in our work on complete

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streets, clean technology, which you'll hear more about today. We have a new role and some

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new resources in housing. And so we'll be talking more about the ways in which the work on the

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land use side can really support the goals of the transportation piece of the plan. And then

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another piece of our work that we've highlighted at various times is the smart cities and the

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future of the workplace. And when we're looking at continuing to work with the subregions

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and the cities to just think about how work is going to be different in the future

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and how we plan our communities around that.

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So that's just kind of the big picture overview

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of where we are, some of the challenges we face,

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to set the stage for the rest of the team

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to talk about the strategies that are going to be in,

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that we're proposing to conclude in the plan.

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And again, you'll hear about those this month

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as well as next month.

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So I will hand it over to Joseph

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Sarah.

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Sorry, Marko couldn't be here today,

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but I'm really happy to speak to this board again.

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Like Sarah had set it up. We have a lot of challenges ahead of us, but we also have a lot of opportunity and it's gag

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Working quite hard to make a good plan that's going to hit the target and to help out our region

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So I'm going to give you a small sampling of those today

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And then also tell you a little bit about the EV electric vehicle landscape in the state

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Great. So you might be familiar with these maps last time if you recall back in April

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I asked you what hydrogen fuel cars run on and I said it was magic because it's only water that comes out of

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tailpipe, I think that's kind of magical. Anyway, and then electric vehicles, they run

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on batteries that you charge at a normal outlet. And this right here is our infrastructure

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that we have in our region. You can see that hydrogen fuel cells, hydrogen fueling stations

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are only really located in our urban areas. And then electric vehicle charging stations

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are also located in some of our more rural areas. But you might be able to notice

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in that map that even though it looks like a pretty big cluster in our urban areas,

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we still are far behind where we need to be in order to accommodate all the

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vehicles that are coming to our region. And also if you'll notice the

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corridors we don't we have quite a few gaps there which is really important for

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goods movement and for getting people in and out of our region between our

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neighboring states of Nevada and Arizona. So we really need to have a

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more complete infrastructure picture here to support the electric vehicles

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that are coming.

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And so that kind of leads into our work that we're doing here at SCAG, which has been

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taking place since 2012.

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Since 2012, we've been creating plans and resources to help our local agencies and

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to really bring in money from the federal and state and regional agencies that are

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installing electric vehicle charging and also selling vehicles into our state.

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So it's really important for us to not only meet our target, but also meet economic goals, meet national security goals in terms of energy security

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by getting this infrastructure into our region and getting these vehicles on our streets.

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Because then we see an immediate decrease of pollution and immediate decrease of greenhouse gases, and also then we're relying on American-made energy,

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be it hydrogen or be it batteries from solar panels and hopefully other generally green

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sources in California.

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So those resources to highlight one of them is our plug-in electric vehicle readiness

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atlas.

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Now this before was a standalone report which I'll highlight a little bit more of later

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in this presentation, but we also created this online mapping tool that can help you

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answer questions such as where are the PEVs today? So where are plug-in electric vehicles

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drivers? Where is the current demand for charging? Where is the greatest demand for workplace

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charging? Where is the greatest need for retail and commercial charging? So people driving

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in the morning to their workplace or to go shopping. Where do they need to charge?

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And then where's their lack of nearby charging?

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And if I can just cut you off one second, and that is, you can get that presentation on your screen by pushing the little box at the bottom left with the B in it.

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No worries.

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For those of us who can't see well, the screen, so.

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I appreciate that.

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So this we updated in – we had a pretty rudimentary form back in 2012, then we updated

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it in 2017, and in about two weeks we'll have an even more updated version with extra

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data that we added from open sources, saving quite a bit of money on that data and also

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getting the kind of latest and greatest data available as well as some additional tools.

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So we will be promoting that once it's updated in two weeks to our members.

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We'll also be using that data that we have for some planning efforts that I'll be telling

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you a little bit more about later in this presentation.

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Here from the report that I mentioned, we have a standalone report that kind of projects

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the electric vehicle charging needs in our region, as well as how many vehicles that

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we have.

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And so you see that upward curve if you can see it on the screens.

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That's a pretty good thing.

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That shows the number of electric vehicles, plug-in electric vehicles that we expect

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to have in this case in Los Angeles, but we've also looked at regions, subregions all

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around the SCAG region, so that's a good thing is the line is going up, we're expecting

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more electric vehicles, but what that means is we really need to get busy with bringing

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the infrastructure that we need into our region, and that costs a lot of money.

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Some of these chargers, you know, if you want to install one in your home, you

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can just kind of get a cord of 500 bucks, plug it into your wall, you're set.

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But if you're looking at multi-unit dwellings, if you're looking at charging workplaces,

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If you're looking to see fast charging, which that's really the future if you want to fuel up

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medium heavy duty vehicles or fuel up a vehicle like a Tesla in about 30 minutes

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You're looking at tens tens of thousands of dollars like fifty thousand dollars from some station

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So it's going to cost a lot of money and we've seen some of our financial plans

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We don't just have that money lying around so we need to make sure that we get it from the from the feds like I said from the

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state from the

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from our

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utilities, and we need to make sure that we can leverage all that we can, because this

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is the future we need to plan for.

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Now, got a little bit ahead of myself, here we go, showing some of those vehicles in

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more detail.

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In California, we're really forging ahead in terms of electric vehicles.

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In 2013, we had EVs only made up about 2.4 percent of the market share, and that's

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That's pretty low, especially considering the great benefits that we have from green house

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gases and from pollution and energy security.

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By 2017, that was 4.9.

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This year, it's at 7%, which is still pretty low.

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I also did a comparison looking at hybrids, and we still only have about 7% of the vehicles

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sold and new vehicles sold are hybrids.

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So we're looking at maybe 15% of our vehicles that are being sold every year are alternative

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fuels.

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Now, we drive around and, you know, you see a lot of Prius, you see a lot of those HOV

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stickers, and it might seem like there are a lot of clean vehicles out there, but our

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number one selling vehicle in the country is the F-150.

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And we're trending more towards larger vehicles and towards, like, SUVs and trucks.

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I'm sorry, could you tell me what PHEV stands for and DEV stands for?

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Thank you.

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I get kind of carried away with the alphabet soup sometimes, EV, I'm referring to electric

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vehicles, PHEV is a plug-in hybrid electric vehicle and BEV is battery electric vehicle.

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So EV, electric vehicle is kind of an all-encompassing term.

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That could be a hydrogen fuel cell vehicle, it could be one that you plug in.

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A plug-in hybrid vehicle is similar to the Prius where it's a hybrid drive where

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where you have your internal combustion, question motor,

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but you also, and you have an electric motor,

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but you can also plug it into a wall to charge it up.

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Usually get about 20 to 50 miles on that charge.

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is something that's just purely battery.

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you get anywhere from 90 to like 330 miles

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with some vehicles.

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So that was a good transition.

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I appreciate you asking for that clarification.

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So the hope is, or I mean the promise is right now in California we already have 48 different

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electric vehicle models.

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And there's a pretty cool video out there of Ford who announced that they are developing

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an all electric F-150.

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So that most popular vehicle that, I mean although it has been getting more efficient

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over the years, it's still really a gas guzzler.

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We're pretty soon going to see that in an electric model.

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So you know we don't necessarily need to change people's minds about what kind

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of vehicles they need to buy because they're going to be those vehicles to meet their demands

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out there.

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They're already here.

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They're a number of SUVs, full-size SUVs, and they're coming.

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Also, Tesla, I know that one's – everybody always gets excited about Tesla.

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They also have a – they announced a light-duty truck as well.

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So we're going to have a lot of options out there for people.

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And just a quick stat.

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I just pulled this up while I was sitting back here listening to Sarah was – I

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As of July, in California, we have 626,800 electric vehicles in our state.

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What does that mean?

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So by 2025, we want to have 1.5 million.

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By 2030, we want to have 5 million.

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So we're making progress on it, but we're not quite where we want to be today.

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As you saw from our GHG targets, we really want to be on the ball and, like I said,

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But get this money into our state, get the vehicles, get the infrastructure, and it's

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really important to get both.

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There's kind of a chicken and egg debate here of, do you put the electric vehicle charging

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stations in first, and then people will buy the vehicles, or do people need to buy the

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vehicles and then we'll get the charging?

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It's the jury's a little bit out on that.

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But as you can see from this chart here, it's kind of a lot going on, but essentially

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what it shows you is that the more electric vehicle charging stations you have in a

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city, the more electric vehicles that you have.

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So we really need to take a dual approach to make sure that

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we're getting people driving these cars, purchasing them.

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Because they are fun.

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There's a lot of evidence out there that shows that people,

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once they drive these cars, they like them.

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And they want to buy them.

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There's some kind of cute videos out there where they

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interview people, and they're like, electric car,

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what's that?

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I don't know.

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That sounds scary.

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Am I going to get shocked driving it?

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And they say like really ridiculous things.

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It's like kids say the darnest things.

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And then they try these electric vehicles.

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And they're like, OK, when can I buy this?

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Oh, and there are how many incentives for it?

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So it's pretty impressive how quickly people kind of are won over by electric vehicles.

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But like I said, it's still not enough.

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It's only 7% of new vehicles being sold, despite all the incentives out there.

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But we're working on it, and like I said, or kind of going back to GHG, our strategy,

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what we're doing for Connect SoCal to kind of bring it back to our regional plan

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is that we are going to, through our work,

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supporting jurisdictions to streamline permitting,

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to get more funding to the region, to have educational events

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where we get people more interested in these vehicles.

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We are going to model that.

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And the way that it works,

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that's kind of described in more detail in the staff report,

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is that we essentially, by supporting workplace charging,

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we get people to drive their plug-in electric,

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plug-in hybrid vehicles more on the electric mode.

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So that's somebody who's driving this car that can only go

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about 20 miles on a charge, but they drive to work maybe 10 miles.

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They're able to charge there, and then they can drive back home

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on that battery.

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So zero emission all the way.

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This is the anecdotal, but a guy I used to volunteer with,

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he posted on Facebook that his Prius Prime,

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that's a plug-in electric hybrid,

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he went 12,000 miles just straight, all just plug-in.

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It never had to be.

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He's just really diligent. He's just like a super hyper-myler, I think they call him, really

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good about charging up. So what we want to do is kind of give people more of that opportunity

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so they can kind of just do the right thing so it's kind of built into their lives so they

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can drive electric. And then the other side of the slide is something that we'll have

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to dive into more in the next two months and you'll see more details in our financial

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But SCAG will also be looking at creating a rebate program that will act both on the vehicle side and also on the charging side.

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And that will lead to a net reduction of 0.1% GHD reduction, which these numbers seem really small.

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But when we're trying to kind of add up to this 19%, every little bit helps.

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All right. Something pretty exciting that I'm working on right now is we're about to release some projects for request for proposals to get some consultants to work on the

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infrastructure plans, and these are the cities listed there.

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We have them kind of sectioned off according to the city's readiness, because we have some

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cities like LA where they've streamlined their permitting processes, and then we have some

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smaller cities that are a little bit more challenged in terms of resources and staffing,

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so we're going to help them, give them the tools so that they can also become

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I'm ready for EVs, because EVs aren't just for small cities, or excuse me, they're not

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just for big cities, they're not just for, you know, wealthy folks, EVs are for everybody.

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And as you can see, hopefully the colors show up well here, is that most of our urban area

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is covered by these projects.

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So these are the cities, and this is actually a map showing where those are located.

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And what we'd like to get out of this is, I can't say too much about what the plans

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are going to cover because, like I said, they're going to go out for bid soon.

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But the end result of this will hopefully be a template for the rest of our region.

450
00:31:57,510 --> 00:32:02,090
So we're going to start with quite a bit of our region here, and then we're going to move on to the rest of our region.

451
00:32:02,550 --> 00:32:08,170
And as SCAG and as our Clean Cities Coalition, we're going to promote the best practices that we find.

452
00:32:09,670 --> 00:32:14,870
Really quickly, one of the reasons why this is important and kind of one of the things that we're going to be covering is permitting.

453
00:32:15,570 --> 00:32:18,210
So I listened to a presentation from Electrify America.

454
00:32:18,210 --> 00:32:24,650
They came here to talk to us, and they're spending $800 million over the next eight years or so.

455
00:32:25,690 --> 00:32:30,310
And they told us their number one barrier, number one barrier to installing charging,

456
00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:34,990
number one barrier to keeping our greenhouse gases low, keeping our pollution low,

457
00:32:35,310 --> 00:32:38,510
bringing in money into our region, spending that money here was permitting.

458
00:32:39,790 --> 00:32:43,010
And the number one area in that permitting was zoning.

459
00:32:43,010 --> 00:32:48,250
And that's really problematic because in California we have Assembly Bill 1236.

460
00:32:49,230 --> 00:32:50,870
That one's kind of easy to remember the number.

461
00:32:51,410 --> 00:32:56,350
And that one essentially takes EV charging out of the zoning process.

462
00:32:56,790 --> 00:32:59,810
It makes it so that every city has to have a streamlined process,

463
00:33:00,030 --> 00:33:04,990
and that unless there's a health or safety concern, you get EV charging.

464
00:33:05,350 --> 00:33:09,930
The state has decided that this is a priority, and a lot of cities are picking up on that.

465
00:33:09,930 --> 00:33:15,890
But not everybody, and I don't think he named anybody in the SCAG region, hope not, but he

466
00:33:15,890 --> 00:33:21,210
said on average California, the permitting process is 25 days longer than the national

467
00:33:21,210 --> 00:33:21,510
average.

468
00:33:22,150 --> 00:33:25,830
So in the nation it takes 41 days to get your permitting done for an electric vehicle

469
00:33:25,830 --> 00:33:28,490
charging station, California it's 66 days.

470
00:33:29,290 --> 00:33:32,870
So California, if we want to be the leaders, SCAG, if we want to be the leaders of California,

471
00:33:33,150 --> 00:33:36,510
we really need to make sure that we're streamlining our processes and taking advantage

472
00:33:36,510 --> 00:33:38,370
of the funding that's available.

473
00:33:38,370 --> 00:33:40,570
So that's my call to action for you.

474
00:33:40,670 --> 00:33:41,850
I want to thank you again for your time.

475
00:33:42,510 --> 00:33:49,290
A plug for a couple of events that we're doing is every year we help support the Alt Car Expo,

476
00:33:49,550 --> 00:33:53,650
which is there's typically a ride and drive event where people can check out.

477
00:33:53,750 --> 00:33:57,670
I think there are at least 10 electric vehicles that people could check out last time

478
00:33:57,670 --> 00:34:01,990
in addition to shuttles and other vehicles that you could consider for your city's fleets.

479
00:34:02,490 --> 00:34:05,790
That's going to be taking place in Santa Monica.

480
00:34:05,950 --> 00:34:08,490
That's the 14th annual alt car.

481
00:34:08,850 --> 00:34:12,190
That's going to be at the Santa Monica City College on November 2nd.

482
00:34:12,190 --> 00:34:15,150
So I know many of you hail from this area.

483
00:34:15,550 --> 00:34:18,970
But if you don't hail from this area, if you're more from the Inland Empire area,

484
00:34:19,450 --> 00:34:22,970
there will be the very first one in the Inland Empire taking place

485
00:34:22,970 --> 00:34:27,230
at the Riverside Convention Center on October 16th.

486
00:34:27,230 --> 00:34:31,290
And that one will be a little bit more focused on heavy duty, given the inland empires'

487
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:37,630
kind of strategic location as warehousing areas, as having a lot of heavy duty vehicles

488
00:34:37,630 --> 00:34:38,370
going through there.

489
00:34:38,910 --> 00:34:43,850
And a big focus in both of them will be air quality because, well, for obvious reasons

490
00:34:43,850 --> 00:34:47,610
we've been seeing a lot of poor air quality, and I think one of our speakers earlier

491
00:34:47,610 --> 00:34:48,690
got to mention that.

492
00:34:49,350 --> 00:34:50,990
So please, I'd like to see you at those events.

493
00:34:51,350 --> 00:34:52,910
Hopefully we'll do something in Ventura soon.

494
00:34:52,910 --> 00:34:57,970
I know we have some representation there as well.

495
00:34:58,250 --> 00:35:02,730
So really thank you for your time and appreciate or look forward to any questions you have.

496
00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:03,910
We have some questions.

497
00:35:04,330 --> 00:35:05,450
Council Member Gardner.

498
00:35:07,230 --> 00:35:07,750
Thank you.

499
00:35:09,130 --> 00:35:12,470
Really more a couple of comments than questions.

500
00:35:14,490 --> 00:35:20,250
You talked about infrastructure and I took it as pointing mostly to you can't just

501
00:35:20,250 --> 00:35:26,370
plug an EV into anything that exists at your house, you have to get maybe a larger panel.

502
00:35:28,060 --> 00:35:33,710
That's one piece of it, but the utility infrastructure to feed that is really important.

503
00:35:34,030 --> 00:35:38,310
And the fast chargers are not long-term demand, but they're high demand.

504
00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:47,230
And the utility infrastructure at some point is going to get pushed as far as what is installed can go.

505
00:35:47,230 --> 00:35:52,690
and there will be a need to upgrade. Transformers may be heavier conductor,

506
00:35:53,270 --> 00:35:55,830
maybe even transformers and substations at some point.

507
00:35:56,390 --> 00:36:00,890
So it's important that local jurisdictions work with their utility,

508
00:36:01,050 --> 00:36:05,770
whether you have your own utility or it's Southern California Edison.

509
00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:13,490
You need to be from a planning perspective understanding what you anticipate

510
00:36:13,490 --> 00:36:21,250
The load demand is going to be over time and give the utility the time to get their system upgraded so it can actually serve it.

511
00:36:21,450 --> 00:36:26,790
Because installing it, if you can't get enough electricity to run it, is kind of a waste of time.

512
00:36:28,090 --> 00:36:33,910
And on the permitting side, yes, there are local jurisdiction permits.

513
00:36:34,290 --> 00:36:37,950
That's an issue, but there's also the utility connection.

514
00:36:37,950 --> 00:36:46,810
And none of our utilities are as quick as we would like them to be in terms of planning a new service,

515
00:36:47,010 --> 00:36:53,210
setting a new meter, getting you a new service drop from your transformer, maybe setting a new transformer.

516
00:36:53,770 --> 00:37:00,970
So I think that adds to some of the delay, but it really is important that there be good communication

517
00:37:00,970 --> 00:37:07,030
and planning between whoever you're serving electric utility is and your local jurisdiction.

518
00:37:07,930 --> 00:37:12,030
Otherwise, you're going to – you'll find yourself in a bind and it will be slow to get out.

519
00:37:12,930 --> 00:37:13,570
Thank you.

520
00:37:14,070 --> 00:37:20,550
Definitely appreciate that comment and hopefully make – you trust our judgment more.

521
00:37:20,930 --> 00:37:25,750
Even more so is that with those plans that I told you about – oh, we're not on there anymore.

522
00:37:26,410 --> 00:37:30,150
We will have a steering committee that will be comprised of members of utilities.

523
00:37:30,150 --> 00:37:34,450
So we've already been recruiting them, and then as you saw when we were here in April,

524
00:37:34,850 --> 00:37:39,370
Southern California Edison was here to give us a presentation in tandem with this item.

525
00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:42,010
So definitely something we were thinking about, and I really appreciate that comment.

526
00:37:42,870 --> 00:37:44,410
And it's not just Edison.

527
00:37:44,530 --> 00:37:48,970
There are a number of municipal utilities from Department of Water and Power,

528
00:37:49,090 --> 00:37:52,770
which is very big to the city of Banning, which is very small.

529
00:37:54,210 --> 00:37:56,410
So they're important to coordinate with as well.

530
00:37:56,410 --> 00:37:56,970
It is.

531
00:37:57,230 --> 00:38:03,850
And it's also neat to see when they're also using solar power to charge the cars, too,

532
00:38:03,930 --> 00:38:05,850
which I know some of the companies are doing.

533
00:38:06,750 --> 00:38:08,450
Mayor Robertson, you have a question.

534
00:38:08,830 --> 00:38:09,750
Yes, thank you.

535
00:38:10,810 --> 00:38:11,470
Good point.

536
00:38:11,890 --> 00:38:14,330
I love the presentation and it definitely was timely.

537
00:38:15,130 --> 00:38:19,650
So I had some notes here and starting with my first point when you were talking

538
00:38:19,650 --> 00:38:24,210
was you were talking about the, you know, I would say individual usage.

539
00:38:24,210 --> 00:38:30,250
But yesterday at Omnitrans, we had a rather robust conversation about moving ourselves

540
00:38:30,250 --> 00:38:35,230
from the hydrogen after we've made such a major investment in knowing we need to do electric.

541
00:38:35,790 --> 00:38:41,130
So in your presentation, I was just wondering what discussion and coordination are you having

542
00:38:41,130 --> 00:38:47,050
with the various transit agencies, especially if they're not in a situation like Metro

543
00:38:47,050 --> 00:38:54,910
where you have the bus system with Metro. In our case, we have the County Transportation

544
00:38:54,910 --> 00:38:59,870
Agency, SB, and then we have Omnitransit. There may be, at some point, a discussion

545
00:38:59,870 --> 00:39:04,430
of consolidation, but we have all of those out there, and they moved in a direction.

546
00:39:04,910 --> 00:39:09,950
So now how are we interfacing with them? So our interfacing with transit agencies

547
00:39:09,950 --> 00:39:14,710
is unfortunately somewhat limited due to our capacity. We have Marco Anderson and

548
00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:21,470
myself who are essentially we're on the electric vehicle and alternative fuels programs. However,

549
00:39:21,550 --> 00:39:25,850
we do interface with them with our Clean Cities Coalition. And so we've provided support in

550
00:39:25,850 --> 00:39:31,950
a number of ways including primary ways of support or letters of support. We've done

551
00:39:31,950 --> 00:39:37,270
some modeling. So I know this isn't transit, but we did some air quality modeling for

552
00:39:38,070 --> 00:39:43,090
the LA County Sheriff's Department to support their application to report, excuse me,

553
00:39:43,090 --> 00:39:45,810
to replace a number of diesel buses with electric buses.

554
00:39:47,150 --> 00:39:53,390
We also, I just had a kickoff meeting with another project with Gold Coast Transit District

555
00:39:53,390 --> 00:40:00,470
and up in Ventura and kind of led to some conversations and they got me in touch with

556
00:40:00,470 --> 00:40:03,550
their fleet manager so we're going to work with them to plug them into the resources

557
00:40:03,550 --> 00:40:08,690
that they have because as a Clean Cities Coalition, we are certified by the Department

558
00:40:08,690 --> 00:40:09,130
of Energy.

559
00:40:09,130 --> 00:40:14,590
So we have a number of tools and data and resources that we have available that we then

560
00:40:14,590 --> 00:40:15,970
share with our transit agencies.

561
00:40:16,470 --> 00:40:20,890
Another way that we support them is that we recognize our work through our Clean Cities

562
00:40:21,450 --> 00:40:22,330
Coalition Awards.

563
00:40:23,070 --> 00:40:29,970
So last year we awarded Sunline Transit for recognizing them at our General Assembly for

564
00:40:29,970 --> 00:40:34,070
their work of purchasing, it was like 20 or so hydrogen electric buses.

565
00:40:34,910 --> 00:40:44,050
And then this year we also – it was a long beach this time.

566
00:40:44,370 --> 00:40:46,970
Again, actually that was in their transit, but that was their fleet vehicles.

567
00:40:47,850 --> 00:40:53,890
So, like I mentioned, our capacity is somewhat limited, but it's something that we tried to get into as much as we can.

568
00:40:54,050 --> 00:41:00,690
And we – as I mentioned, we have resources at our fingertips, so if you all have transit agencies, we would like to support those.

569
00:41:00,690 --> 00:41:05,990
One other thing real quick is that one of those programs, the sustainable

570
00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:08,710
communities program that was, excuse

571
00:41:11,010 --> 00:41:13,110
me, it was ported by this board and we're

572
00:41:13,110 --> 00:41:16,150
going to start the projects later, one of the cities that we're working with is

573
00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:21,510
Gardena and they have G-trans. So part of that work will be to support charging

574
00:41:21,510 --> 00:41:28,110
for their utility. Okay. Just get us on the radar. We'll get ourselves on it.

575
00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:32,250
Just two more questions I had. When you were talking about the person who

576
00:41:32,250 --> 00:41:38,190
was the hyper mileage person, 12,000 miles, and I thought, you know, I had a

577
00:41:38,190 --> 00:41:43,850
hybrid very early, the Prius, and at the time it was, you know, it was probably

578
00:41:43,850 --> 00:41:49,710
the first generation, actually, it was. Question hour second. Does there, in

579
00:41:49,710 --> 00:41:54,530
way of an incentive, is there any way when someone is using that level of

580
00:41:55,270 --> 00:41:59,410
electricity, do they get some kind of reading, and this is totally just

581
00:41:59,410 --> 00:42:05,170
being ignorant to what they are doing in terms of their carbon footprint reduction?

582
00:42:05,530 --> 00:42:09,930
Is there something in the systems and the technology that gives a person an indication

583
00:42:09,930 --> 00:42:12,890
of how well they're helping the environment?

584
00:42:13,610 --> 00:42:19,070
That's not something that I've heard of other than, I know, I also have a Prius, and it

585
00:42:19,070 --> 00:42:22,790
tells you not your GHG, but it does tell you miles per gallon, so you have that

586
00:42:22,790 --> 00:42:24,730
kind of immediate interface.

587
00:42:25,010 --> 00:42:28,470
And then I've seen even, I've had some rental cars, and even with internal combustion

588
00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:37,190
They kind of tell you your mileage conscious, which if you are you can go to fueleconomy.gov

589
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:38,550
and you'll get a lot of tips there.

590
00:42:38,890 --> 00:42:40,770
You have to do your own conversion, huh?

591
00:42:41,930 --> 00:42:43,590
Last thing, checklists.

592
00:42:43,910 --> 00:42:49,930
I mean, up to what Congressman Gardner said and to what you're saying and the permitting

593
00:42:49,930 --> 00:42:54,750
process and all those that you need to go through because I did note that you have the

594
00:42:54,750 --> 00:43:00,890
electric video vehicle ready this project list of which I see red lenses under

595
00:43:00,890 --> 00:43:04,790
there but I also know we're working with fast charging network strategies and I

596
00:43:04,790 --> 00:43:09,290
was wondering we're working with fast charging company whatever the

597
00:43:09,290 --> 00:43:13,530
checkpoint or something and I'm wondering so how are we how do some of the

598
00:43:13,530 --> 00:43:18,110
other cities that are actually doing some of it as well and and actually

599
00:43:18,110 --> 00:43:23,310
putting those charging stations in city of Rialto did how do we end up or

600
00:43:23,310 --> 00:43:28,290
you become aware of that or is it through the smart clean cities coalition?

601
00:43:29,450 --> 00:43:33,830
Yes, so are you referring to kind of a tracking the number of electric vehicle charging stations

602
00:43:33,830 --> 00:43:36,670
that are deployed and installed around the region?

603
00:43:36,910 --> 00:43:41,930
Well, I'm talking about the readiness project list that you spoke of and you have three

604
00:43:41,930 --> 00:43:42,410
categories.

605
00:43:42,650 --> 00:43:48,530
And I just wondered, you know, what are you tracking there and how the cities that

606
00:43:48,530 --> 00:43:52,290
are actually doing some things and have actually went through a permitting process

607
00:43:52,290 --> 00:43:55,210
process and put those things in, how are you aware of that?

608
00:43:55,730 --> 00:43:56,090
I see.

609
00:43:56,510 --> 00:44:02,270
So speaking specifically to these, the projects without giving too much away, because we have

610
00:44:02,270 --> 00:44:06,830
any potential bidders out there, but they might be listening.

611
00:44:10,510 --> 00:44:12,830
We kind of, just a little bit more background on those.

612
00:44:12,930 --> 00:44:17,990
Those were, we have the fast charging network strategies, that's kind of for some of our

613
00:44:17,990 --> 00:44:21,010
larger cities because they have done a little bit more of the basics in terms

614
00:44:21,010 --> 00:44:24,690
in terms of doing the stringlining that's permitting.

615
00:44:25,050 --> 00:44:26,810
Then we have the initial PV readiness planning.

616
00:44:27,010 --> 00:44:28,350
That's kind of some of our smaller cities.

617
00:44:28,970 --> 00:44:32,650
Redlands is included in that group.

618
00:44:33,530 --> 00:44:36,130
And then we also have the San Gabriel Valley regions,

619
00:44:36,290 --> 00:44:37,890
which is also a number of small cities,

620
00:44:37,930 --> 00:44:39,630
which many of them are also just kind of beginning

621
00:44:39,630 --> 00:44:44,950
with the installing EV charging and their jurisdictions.

622
00:44:46,830 --> 00:44:49,570
But it's also kind of concentrated on that geographic area.

623
00:44:49,570 --> 00:44:55,070
What we're going to do with these is that there's kind of a multi-tier approach

624
00:44:55,070 --> 00:44:59,010
where we're going to, just as I mentioned in my presentation, we're going to kind of focus.

625
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,860
It's on education, making sure that people know that these vehicles are out there, public

626
00:45:03,860 --> 00:45:08,460
outreach, and then doing a site suitability analysis.

627
00:45:10,020 --> 00:45:13,540
And then on top of that, we're going to take lessons learned from those cities themselves.

628
00:45:13,900 --> 00:45:16,080
So we're going to find out what they're doing already, because I don't think there are

629
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,900
really any cities in this region that are not doing anything, that don't have any charging.

630
00:45:20,380 --> 00:45:24,120
So there are definitely lessons to learn there from what they've already been

631
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:24,320
doing.

632
00:45:24,700 --> 00:45:28,220
And so what we're going to do is take what they've been doing, take the resources

633
00:45:28,220 --> 00:45:31,260
that we have from the Department of Energy, from UCLA, from VELOS, from other

634
00:45:31,260 --> 00:45:37,920
groups out there, and create essentially a path forward, specifically for these

635
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,740
cities, but it will be something that will also relate to the rest of our region.

636
00:45:42,300 --> 00:45:45,720
So I hope that addresses your question. We're going to learn from them, learn from the best practices.

637
00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:46,520
Thank you.

638
00:45:46,660 --> 00:45:48,980
You can come up with a checklist that people can use.

639
00:45:49,580 --> 00:45:50,020
That's it.

640
00:45:50,100 --> 00:45:52,320
Oh, sure. This might address your question real quick.

641
00:45:52,320 --> 00:46:02,760
is the governor's office of business, they just released in July a guidebook on electric

642
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:06,500
vehicle permitting. And there's a table in there. It's a table to one page. It's really

643
00:46:06,500 --> 00:46:10,160
easy to look at. So if you just look at one thing, look at that table too. It has a checklist

644
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:15,700
of, is your city EV ready? So it has things like, does your city have a website? Does

645
00:46:15,700 --> 00:46:20,520
your city, where you talk about EV charging, do you have a single streamlined process?

646
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:27,220
Are you compliant with AB1236, which is making sure that this is only involved in the zoning

647
00:46:27,220 --> 00:46:31,360
process if it has an access to health and safety, and a number of other things.

648
00:46:31,620 --> 00:46:39,200
So that's the Governor's Office of Business, the PEV Streamlining Guidebook.

649
00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:42,540
It has quite a long title, but you'll be able to find it on here if you Google it.

650
00:46:42,540 --> 00:46:43,240
Thank you.

651
00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:44,240
Thank you.

652
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:45,520
And Mayor Sally Wells?

653
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,080
I'll try to be quick.

654
00:46:48,460 --> 00:46:49,180
Thank you.

655
00:46:49,180 --> 00:46:51,380
So thank you for the call to action.

656
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:56,940
I'm hoping that all of us can go back to our respective COGS and agencies and kind of

657
00:46:56,940 --> 00:47:01,480
repeat that, that we shouldn't be the barrier, that our city's regulations shouldn't be

658
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,640
the barrier to more EV.

659
00:47:04,940 --> 00:47:10,800
And I would kind of one up that by saying that we need to make sure that we are requiring

660
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:31,920
especially in multifamily. And hopefully what we can do through SCAG would be to have some model policies that we could put forward as suggestions to really actually meet our targets and not just talk about our targets.

661
00:47:34,860 --> 00:47:45,460
Another little piece is I don't think, especially when we were listening to Sarah's presentation

662
00:47:45,460 --> 00:47:52,860
before with the kind of bigger picture, we're not proposing to just replace every single

663
00:47:52,860 --> 00:47:57,760
vehicle today with an EV that will not solve the problem because a lot of the emissions

664
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:09,200
are coming from, you know, tires and brake pads, and like it's not about from an overall strategy, yes, more EV, but especially less cars.

665
00:48:09,660 --> 00:48:27,020
And so I appreciate Mayor Robertson's comments about, you know, also prioritizing EV in our own fleets and designing our streets for public transit, active transit, as opposed to single car transit,

666
00:48:27,020 --> 00:48:31,260
it because that's not big picture, that's not the equation that we should be looking

667
00:48:31,260 --> 00:48:31,500
at.

668
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:32,620
And you're not.

669
00:48:32,820 --> 00:48:35,420
I just had to kind of infuse that into the discussion.

670
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:37,820
Thank you.

671
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:38,700
Can I ask a question?

672
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:43,720
I'll get to others because you brought up the point regarding we need to meet our targets,

673
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,020
as mentioned in the earlier presentation.

674
00:48:46,980 --> 00:48:56,240
And as I recall, the sustainable community strategies does not focus on the vehicles

675
00:48:56,240 --> 00:49:02,260
And that is not part of the percentage reduction that we need to make.

676
00:49:02,580 --> 00:49:10,960
That's being done as the vehicles change, but that's not considered part of the greenhouse gas emissions we need to reduce.

677
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:12,380
Am I correct on that?

678
00:49:14,380 --> 00:49:24,520
That 19 percent, reaching 19 percent, we cannot use the change in vehicles to electric vehicles as part of that.

679
00:49:24,740 --> 00:49:25,240
Is that correct?

680
00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:31,380
We can to some small degree so carb has kind of in their models in their emission factor model

681
00:49:32,740 --> 00:49:37,840
They have an assumption that we will achieve some level of alternative fuel vehicles

682
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,540
So we can't take credit for what they already assume

683
00:49:40,540 --> 00:49:43,220
So we can't say hey, we're gonna meet

684
00:49:43,220 --> 00:49:47,080
You know your goals that you've put in place and you know had ourselves on the back

685
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:49,880
We have to go above and beyond that so that's what our programming is doing

686
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:53,720
And that's what it's kind of spelled out in the staff report and I touched a little pond here

687
00:49:53,720 --> 00:50:01,380
which is the main way that we capture that in the model, and that gets reflected in our greenhouse gas reductions, is that

688
00:50:01,380 --> 00:50:09,960
the strategy of increasing the amount of time that people in plug-in hybrid electric vehicles spend in their battery-only mode.

689
00:50:10,820 --> 00:50:14,420
So you're correct other than that little caveat.

690
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:25,600
But is it not accurate to say that we can't base our reductions that we need to do on the

691
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:26,260
vehicle fleet?

692
00:50:29,570 --> 00:50:33,690
My understanding is that we have to do it other ways to get to that 19 percent.

693
00:50:33,850 --> 00:50:34,530
I'll just jump in.

694
00:50:34,810 --> 00:50:40,890
The majority, but there is a small increment that we can get credit for by converting

695
00:50:40,890 --> 00:50:46,390
to EVs faster than CARBA assumes that we're going to as a state.

696
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:49,970
So it's just that incremental increase in what is assumed.

697
00:50:50,350 --> 00:50:51,370
Okay, thank you.

698
00:50:51,370 --> 00:50:52,170
Hope I agree, thank you.

699
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:55,130
And then Council Member Mamed, and then Jeannis.

700
00:50:56,730 --> 00:50:58,170
I have our assumption.

701
00:50:58,550 --> 00:51:01,310
May I take a hit on a point that I was going to make?

702
00:51:01,450 --> 00:51:04,950
We know that there's going to be a lot of pressure on us too.

703
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,400
And I was very surprised I inquired and...

704
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:12,620
Oops, thank you.

705
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:18,880
And unfortunately, California law apparently requires new multi-unit developers.

706
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:25,660
to install the electrical infrastructure necessary to accommodate the chargers,

707
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:28,340
but not the installation of the chargers themselves.

708
00:51:28,980 --> 00:51:34,780
So as a representative of a small city with a lot of challenges and small staff,

709
00:51:35,300 --> 00:51:41,740
it would be very helpful if SCAG could develop a model ordinance that we could utilize.

710
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,640
So go beyond just the policies that Megan identified,

711
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:54,500
but give us something that we can look at and that we can actually consider and modify as appropriate for our own communities.

712
00:51:54,780 --> 00:51:56,760
But I think that would be very helpful.

713
00:51:57,300 --> 00:52:13,020
Another thing is because of the cost identified by Council Member Gardner, it really is economically challenging to install EV chargers

714
00:52:13,020 --> 00:52:18,660
if you're putting them in a public place where the infrastructure does not already exist.

715
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:25,580
And Edison has had programs in the past and they've been modified.

716
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:31,500
And in addition, as a result of the VW settlement, there have been grants available.

717
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:40,780
But basically it takes quite a bit of time to chase down the number of different pots

718
00:52:40,780 --> 00:52:47,680
of money that may be available from third parties to fund the installation of EV chargers

719
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:55,060
and it would be very, very helpful if SCAG could serve as a clearinghouse not only to

720
00:52:55,060 --> 00:53:04,780
identify these potential third-party sources of funding but also the various information

721
00:53:04,780 --> 00:53:18,220
resources, such as the one that you just mentioned that, quite frankly, I was previously unaware of, and that's from whatever office it is, the checklist, I guess, what you need to do.

722
00:53:18,820 --> 00:53:24,540
I think if SCAG did that, that would really help us out a lot.

723
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:25,320
Good suggestion.

724
00:53:25,980 --> 00:53:26,380
Thank you.

725
00:53:26,380 --> 00:53:32,440
I have two things.

726
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:42,820
One is there's definitely a need and a demand for EV charging, but in some ways that's like

727
00:53:43,180 --> 00:53:44,440
the old technology.

728
00:53:45,180 --> 00:53:51,820
So we need to be looking at fuel cell, accommodating fuel cell vehicles as well, because that's

729
00:53:51,820 --> 00:53:58,740
really going to be the future. And we don't want to put all our eggs in one old basket,

730
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:07,100
although gasoline is the really old basket. But my main question, though, is, do you have

731
00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:13,440
a demographic on who's driving the EVs or purchasing old people, young people, millennials,

732
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:20,200
seniors? Is it spread? And is there a target group that really where the technology hasn't

733
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:26,460
caught on where there could be a little more work on that particular demographic, whether

734
00:54:26,460 --> 00:54:29,600
it's, you know, you save money or it's cool or, you know.

735
00:54:30,060 --> 00:54:30,380
Sure.

736
00:54:31,260 --> 00:54:32,460
Yeah, no, that's a really good question.

737
00:54:32,620 --> 00:54:33,480
There's one group.

738
00:54:34,620 --> 00:54:36,520
I hope I'm not telling you the wrong one.

739
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,200
I believe it's Plug in America.

740
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,140
They have a new ad campaign called EVs for All.

741
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:47,020
And there are these commercials about how electric vehicles are for everybody.

742
00:54:47,020 --> 00:54:52,480
And they do something like they have a punk rocker and they have an opera goer and they drive an electric vehicle together

743
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,760
and then they have like a Hasidic Jew and a

744
00:54:57,240 --> 00:55:01,220
Hipster because they like to both have like the same kind of hair and they're like look they're for everybody

745
00:55:01,220 --> 00:55:09,040
And so the cat lovers and dog lovers veterans and veterinarians and so their their marketing campaign is that electric vehicles are for everybody

746
00:55:10,100 --> 00:55:13,140
So as much as we'd like to see that happen. Yes

747
00:55:13,140 --> 00:55:17,460
Yes, there are definitely some areas that are lagging, namely our disadvantaged communities.

748
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,160
If we were to zoom in on that map that I showed you with our electric vehicle charging infrastructure,

749
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,220
they do cost more.

750
00:55:24,180 --> 00:55:29,700
But groups like, oh yeah, so if we were to zoom into that map, yes, there's less infrastructure,

751
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:34,840
especially in South Central LA, that's a place that's lacking, as well as some areas

752
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:36,960
in inland empire or disadvantaged communities especially.

753
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:45,460
If you look at data of who's using the California clean vehicle rebate, that's the $2,500 to

754
00:55:45,460 --> 00:55:52,180
$7,000 that you can get for an electric vehicle, hybrid or battery, it's mostly being used

755
00:55:52,180 --> 00:55:55,140
by people with incomes of over 80 or over 100,000.

756
00:55:55,420 --> 00:56:00,600
So we're seeing kind of those benefits accrue to our higher income households.

757
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:05,700
So we definitely need to see a greater focus on disadvantaged communities.

758
00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:11,020
That's something that will be a priority in our future programming as well as the plans

759
00:56:11,020 --> 00:56:11,780
that are coming out.

760
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,000
And then in terms of age, I couldn't tell you that right now, but I could look more into

761
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,360
that to see if we have better demographics on that.

762
00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:25,320
You know, I'm living in an area where there are a lot of electric vehicles.

763
00:56:25,740 --> 00:56:32,580
I just think about how the air quality in higher income areas may actually be better

764
00:56:32,580 --> 00:56:36,840
because of electric vehicles than in lower-income areas, and you get into that whole social justice

765
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:37,200
thing.

766
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:44,100
I don't know if there's actually yet been any on-the-ground testing of air quality reduction

767
00:56:44,100 --> 00:56:50,180
as a result of the change, but that would be interesting to note if that's the case.

768
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:52,100
Mayor Clark.

769
00:56:52,600 --> 00:56:52,720
Yeah.

770
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:53,880
Mine's real quick.

771
00:56:54,460 --> 00:56:58,080
Kind of piggybacking on what Megan and Diana said.

772
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:08,380
AB1236 said that we have to, the EV charging is out of the zoning, and others, we're not

773
00:57:08,380 --> 00:57:13,700
allowed to put it in the zoning, is that, but how would you mandate that multifamily

774
00:57:13,700 --> 00:57:17,540
have it if it's not, can you explain that?

775
00:57:17,780 --> 00:57:21,680
I believe it's in the zoning review process, so if somebody goes to, let's say, Walmart,

776
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:26,020
so what I've heard a lot about is Electrify America, they are managing the Volkswagen,

777
00:57:26,020 --> 00:57:28,900
the diesel gate settlement, and the one sending $800 million.

778
00:57:29,300 --> 00:57:31,040
So I've heard the most about their experience.

779
00:57:31,300 --> 00:57:36,060
And they've been working a lot with large properties,

780
00:57:36,380 --> 00:57:38,880
like Simon's Group or with Walmart, Target, et cetera.

781
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:40,760
So for example, they go to Walmart

782
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,220
and they put in an application.

783
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,000
They want to install electric vehicle charging.

784
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,320
What it should do is it should go straight

785
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:47,540
to their building department

786
00:57:48,100 --> 00:57:50,660
or whatever responsible department that is.

787
00:57:50,980 --> 00:57:53,100
What it should not do is not go to zoning

788
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,280
so that they see, okay, well, do you have appropriate screening?

789
00:57:56,820 --> 00:58:00,360
Is this, you know, are you in compliance with building setbacks?

790
00:58:00,580 --> 00:58:00,920
Things like that.

791
00:58:01,020 --> 00:58:06,100
It's only supposed to be going to, like, the responsible building department or whatever they...

792
00:58:06,100 --> 00:58:07,560
No, you said the word should.

793
00:58:07,860 --> 00:58:10,000
Is it mandated in the bill or is it...?

794
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:12,640
So I said should because it's mandated in the bill,

795
00:58:12,780 --> 00:58:14,680
but a lot of cities are not compliant with that.

796
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:20,240
Quite a few because, you know, they oftentimes, as an assistant planner,

797
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:27,980
For example, who's processing these applications, they answer to their senior planner or their manager, they don't answer to the California legislature.

798
00:58:28,700 --> 00:58:36,820
That's at least the way that electrify America representatives put it to us is that, yes, they should. It is the law.

799
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:42,600
I heard some rumors of a lawsuit maybe coming around of California.

800
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:48,200
Yeah, you know, we're very much for local control,

801
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:49,820
so I hate to say like, state is coming in

802
00:58:49,820 --> 00:58:51,620
and it's gonna make cities do the right way,

803
00:58:51,660 --> 00:58:55,040
but there are some concerns that some cities

804
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:56,460
just really don't wanna get on board.

805
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,620
And just to kind of give you an example

806
00:58:59,620 --> 00:59:02,360
of what I've heard from Electrify America,

807
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,960
is they get things like the property owner,

808
00:59:06,580 --> 00:59:08,420
so let's say a Simon's mall, this example.

809
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,260
They want the charging infrastructure,

810
00:59:11,260 --> 00:59:13,900
like right out front like maybe by the Macy's wherever it was and

811
00:59:15,300 --> 00:59:18,040
That's where electrify America wants it because it's going to have the best visibility

812
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:24,340
It's going to be easy to hook up and then they go to they put in their permits to install the chargers and

813
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,460
Then the city says well, we don't we don't want it there. We don't like it there

814
00:59:29,100 --> 00:59:31,280
We want you to put it back by the loading docks

815
00:59:31,900 --> 00:59:36,280
Even though that's going to cost them an extra hundred fifty thousand dollars and it's not going to be visible

816
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:40,520
People aren't going to be able to see these chargers charging stations other things like that like oh

817
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:45,780
Okay, well, Electrify America, they want it to be visible so people can see the charters,

818
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:51,300
but then the permitting office, the zoning office will say, no, we want it fully screened

819
00:59:51,300 --> 00:59:51,380
off.

820
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:52,380
We don't want people to see it.

821
00:59:52,620 --> 00:59:58,420
So you kind of have those conflicting forces there between kind of what's actually happening

822
00:59:58,420 --> 00:59:59,920
on the ground and what is.

823
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,140
Thank you for bringing that to our attention because that is something that we all have some

824
01:00:04,140 --> 01:00:09,360
oversight on as our zoning codes and being able to ensure that they're friendly for charging

825
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:15,060
stations. And I know Inventor County, our air pollution control board puts out a lot

826
01:00:15,060 --> 01:00:20,600
of grants for charging stations, for public charging stations. But it is important, too,

827
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:27,320
for these private sector ones. I'm going to move our program forward. Thank you, Joe,

828
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:30,840
for your presentation, and we'll go on to our next agenda item.

829
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:32,380
Thank you all for the great questions.

830
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:32,920
Thank you.

831
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:34,920
Good discussion.

832
01:00:35,780 --> 01:00:39,900
So the next item we're going to is item seven, and this is with Allison Linder,

833
01:00:40,620 --> 01:00:45,480
and this is regarding SoCal Goods Movement Environmental Strategy.

834
01:00:47,860 --> 01:00:48,160
Hi.

835
01:00:48,780 --> 01:00:49,560
Good morning, everyone.

836
01:00:50,780 --> 01:01:01,260
I appreciate the agenda shift, I think it makes sense to flow from passenger EV charging to heavy duty vehicle efforts.

837
01:01:04,020 --> 01:01:09,640
So it's interesting because they're both in such different places based on where the technology is.

838
01:01:10,540 --> 01:01:15,520
But I'm still happy to tell you where it stands now and what SCAG is working on.

839
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:27,500
So today I'll talk to you briefly about the connect SOCal plan for goods movement environmental issues.

840
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:36,820
And just to give a little context though, air quality isn't the only thing we have to think about.

841
01:01:38,020 --> 01:01:43,940
As we often discuss, the goods movement system in California is associated with many benefits,

842
01:01:43,940 --> 01:01:49,640
such as the ability to support businesses and jobs and to provide us access to the goods we need and want.

843
01:01:50,480 --> 01:02:01,560
However, the process of moving these goods, as you know, creates many environmental externalities and challenges, such as noise, congestion, and emissions.

844
01:02:02,860 --> 01:02:13,040
Our extensive goods movement facilitates our ability to purchase the products we need and trends indicate that the simplicity of e-commerce has increased rather than decreased consumption.

845
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:19,880
This provides economic opportunity, but transportation and disposal challenges that are driven by our behavior.

846
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,640
So we're the ones buying all the goods.

847
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:32,040
So supporting this demand, the Skag region is currently home to 1.2 billion square feet of warehouse space.

848
01:02:32,940 --> 01:02:36,020
And that's an area that's roughly 37 square miles.

849
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,360
It's greater than the entire land area of Miami.

850
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:45,020
and to put it in a local context, the city of Santa Monica is 8.4 square miles.

851
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:54,260
So we have 37 square miles of warehouses as compared to the city of Santa Monica, which

852
01:02:54,260 --> 01:02:55,620
is 8.4 square miles.

853
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:03,680
So these goods movement impacts are far reaching, but today we're going to focus

854
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:04,460
on air quality.

855
01:03:04,460 --> 01:03:10,520
Air quality is the priority for improving public health, meeting federal and state requirements

856
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,700
and reducing our region's contribution to climate change.

857
01:03:16,540 --> 01:03:20,960
So as you may know, the Federal Clean Air Act regulates emissions and requires that

858
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:25,680
our region reduce emissions to prescribed levels in a given timeframe, known as the

859
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:26,400
attainment date.

860
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:31,280
Emissions of particulate matter are small particles that get trapped in our lungs

861
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:36,260
when we breathe and they cause a lot of health issues and the smaller the particles the

862
01:03:36,260 --> 01:03:36,820
more dangerous.

863
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:42,620
However, for PM2.5 emissions we are expecting to meet our targets.

864
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:48,480
The greater challenge is NOx emissions which are more problematic as they are the key

865
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,860
component of ground level ozone or smog.

866
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,920
These also present health impacts.

867
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,620
And these are the greatest immediate air quality challenge.

868
01:03:58,620 --> 01:04:10,600
To meet the federal requirements, we need to reduce NOx emissions by 45% above and beyond existing regulations by 2023 and 55% by 2031.

869
01:04:12,260 --> 01:04:19,220
We also want to do our fair share to meet state targets and combat GHG emissions.

870
01:04:19,220 --> 01:04:20,380
So,

871
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:31,100
of the SCAB, the South Coast Arab Basin, NOx emissions, mobile sources are 83%.

872
01:04:31,100 --> 01:04:38,200
And this makes more or less sense because historically, the AQMD has had greater jurisdiction

873
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:39,580
over stationary sources.

874
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:43,360
So the remaining share are these mobile sources, which are much more difficult.

875
01:04:45,260 --> 01:04:53,360
Goods movement sources of the whole pie are 52%, and trucks are the greatest contributor

876
01:04:53,880 --> 01:04:59,240
followed by off-road equipment, and other sources include ocean going vessels,

877
01:05:01,460 --> 01:05:01,740
the tug

878
01:05:01,740 --> 01:05:04,340
boats, or what are they called?

879
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:08,140
The commercial harbor craft, I think of them as tug boats and trains.

880
01:05:08,140 --> 01:05:11,980
Aircraft are also part of this, but they're not included in this calculation.

881
01:05:16,620 --> 01:05:22,040
In addition to SCAG's plan, there are several regulatory initiatives underway that will support these efforts.

882
01:05:23,180 --> 01:05:28,680
One of them is the South Coast AQMD's facility-based source measures.

883
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:36,140
They are looking at measures that are quantifiable and could generate credit toward state implementation plan requirements.

884
01:05:36,140 --> 01:05:42,160
They want to first focus on voluntary agreements where possible, but will create regulations

885
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:42,940
if necessary.

886
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:48,680
So for example, the San Pedro Bay ports have recently updated their Cleaner Action Plan.

887
01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:55,400
So currently, a Q&B in the ports and a whole lot of other stakeholders are working on kind

888
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,000
of a voluntary MOU concept.

889
01:05:57,580 --> 01:06:04,360
But for some of the other sources, such as warehouses, new developments, airports,

890
01:06:05,300 --> 01:06:07,740
They're looking into regulatory concepts.

891
01:06:09,460 --> 01:06:14,460
There are also several California Air Resource Board initiatives underway.

892
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:21,320
A series of freight handbooks is under development to help jurisdictions in guiding the development of freight facilities

893
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:26,060
and to empower environmental justice groups to participate in decision-making.

894
01:06:26,860 --> 01:06:32,820
The first module of this is going to be focused on warehouses and is expected in 2020.

895
01:06:32,820 --> 01:06:40,370
They're also advocating for stricter federal standards to create an even playing field.

896
01:06:40,930 --> 01:06:47,250
They estimate that 60% of truck VMT is from vehicles that are purchased out of state.

897
01:06:47,970 --> 01:06:53,710
So really when you think of the emissions issue, it is a national problem.

898
01:06:54,210 --> 01:07:00,090
And for some sources like rail, it's kind of more national, and ocean-going vessels

899
01:07:00,590 --> 01:07:02,850
are even governed by international treaties.

900
01:07:03,790 --> 01:07:09,310
But ARB is kind of trying to advocate for greater regulations in those areas.

901
01:07:10,850 --> 01:07:16,810
They're also working on an advanced clean truck regulation, which is expected to be finalized by 2020,

902
01:07:17,390 --> 01:07:20,910
and would include manufacturing, reporting, and fleet purchase requirements.

903
01:07:21,710 --> 01:07:28,610
It would set a requirement for a certain percentage of manufacturer's sales to be zero emission with percentages ramping up over time.

904
01:07:28,610 --> 01:07:29,530
So

905
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:39,600
moving on to this Gag plan, what this, what Kinect SoCal includes is kind of an overarching

906
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:40,300
framework.

907
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:43,560
We call it our four step technology advancement strategy.

908
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:52,680
And it, it moves, the idea is that it's a process that moves technologies from an initial

909
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:58,000
scoping phase through a process of continuous iteration and innovation until eventually

910
01:07:58,000 --> 01:07:59,360
they're fully commercialized.

911
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:11,720
So to talk a little bit more about that, the first phase is a scoping plan and I want to emphasize that this work has started many, many years ago, at least a decade.

912
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:27,300
Like in the 2012 plan, we talked about early efforts to categorize the market and determine the needs and requirements that our region needs, you know, that a manufacturer would have to follow in order to develop a useful technology.

913
01:08:28,520 --> 01:08:30,780
So that doesn't mean that that phase is over.

914
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:35,380
You know, constantly we're kind of reevaluating where is the market?

915
01:08:35,660 --> 01:08:37,380
How are these technologies being used?

916
01:08:37,980 --> 01:08:39,140
What are the needs?

917
01:08:39,380 --> 01:08:42,560
And then those specifications are fed back to the manufacturers.

918
01:08:43,360 --> 01:08:49,900
So for example, in 2017 the ports just did a pretty extensive truck feasibility assessment.

919
01:08:50,660 --> 01:08:55,240
And also ARB has done work on this, looking at total cost of ownership studies.

920
01:08:55,240 --> 01:09:00,340
phase and other organizations like CalSTAR are also pretty involved.

921
01:09:01,580 --> 01:09:07,600
So moving on to phase two, the OEM would develop an early prototype and then this would be

922
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,640
tested and it would be iterated.

923
01:09:10,440 --> 01:09:14,040
Eventually that would be scaled up to larger demonstration projects.

924
01:09:14,500 --> 01:09:20,440
So right now I would say the region is kind of in phase three where we've tested fleets

925
01:09:20,440 --> 01:09:24,900
of up to 10 vehicles as part of one demonstration project.

926
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:32,720
And then in the future, their goal is to scale this up even further.

927
01:09:33,020 --> 01:09:41,380
So the ports have created a large scale zero emission truck working group where they want

928
01:09:41,380 --> 01:09:47,220
to start deploying and testing fleets of about 50 to 100 vehicles to see how they work.

929
01:09:47,220 --> 01:09:51,660
work. And then eventually the goal is to get to phase four where these technologies are

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01:09:51,660 --> 01:09:52,780
fully commercializable.

931
01:09:57,500 --> 01:10:02,640
And I also wanted to point out that as part of this, you could

932
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:09,560
call it phase two, the ports have already tested about 120 different vehicles used for

933
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:16,360
dryage and also yard operations, including battery electric, natural gas, and hydrogen

934
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:16,840
feel so.

935
01:10:21,180 --> 01:10:26,100
So in an earlier version of this slide, so what are SCAG's roles and responsibilities

936
01:10:26,100 --> 01:10:31,220
and not of our partners? So in an earlier version of this slide, I had replaced all

937
01:10:31,220 --> 01:10:40,100
the S's with dollar signs because the real need here is to fund these very expensive

938
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:46,520
demonstrations and deployments to further advance this technology.

939
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:57,340
As an example, a recent project at the port of Los Angeles funded 10 hydrogen fuel cell

940
01:10:57,340 --> 01:11:05,000
tractors and two hydrogen fueling stations at a public price tag of $41 million funded

941
01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:06,940
through CARB's Zanzath program.

942
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:11,480
So yeah, so when Joe was saying, we need money, we need money, Ian and I over here

943
01:11:11,480 --> 01:11:18,080
we're like yeah add another two zeros to that instead of tens of thousands we're

944
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:25,210
talking tons of millions but and that project that had the price tag the

945
01:11:25,210 --> 01:11:30,630
public price tag of 41 million dollars is being matched by in-kind or cash

946
01:11:30,630 --> 01:11:39,170
matches from private partners so the actual cost is higher so in the past

947
01:11:39,170 --> 01:11:47,810
SCAG has participated in Zero Emissions Collaborative, which had partners from Metro, AQMD, the

948
01:11:47,810 --> 01:11:54,830
ports, Gateway Cities Cog, and one of the purposes of this group was to take a very collaborative

949
01:11:54,830 --> 01:12:01,130
approach to advocating for this investment, supporting each other's grant applications,

950
01:12:01,890 --> 01:12:07,950
and also sharing the results, sharing information, kind of coordinating who is testing what

951
01:12:07,950 --> 01:12:15,510
And that group has had a lot of success in attracting investment and one of

952
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:19,850
Skag's roles moving forward would be to try to expand that group to include

953
01:12:19,850 --> 01:12:25,450
partners from Inland Empire, Port of Winimi, and to give it more of a greater

954
01:12:25,450 --> 01:12:26,290
regional focus.

955
01:12:29,460 --> 01:12:35,230
Another part of our plan is to increase the focus on

956
01:12:35,230 --> 01:12:37,350
on life cycle impacts of these technologies.

957
01:12:38,430 --> 01:12:41,810
So as these trucks are being designed and developed,

958
01:12:42,110 --> 01:12:44,630
we're at such an early stage that we can have

959
01:12:44,630 --> 01:12:49,190
great input into looking at the end use.

960
01:12:50,070 --> 01:12:52,470
So there's concern about how the batteries

961
01:12:52,470 --> 01:12:54,650
are gonna be disposed of and what materials

962
01:12:54,650 --> 01:12:56,650
are included in them.

963
01:12:56,810 --> 01:12:59,910
Can they be recycled and reused?

964
01:13:00,210 --> 01:13:01,950
Can components of them be reused?

965
01:13:01,950 --> 01:13:05,250
or are they just going to be disposed of their end of life.

966
01:13:05,650 --> 01:13:10,250
So these are things that have been looked at more extensively in Europe.

967
01:13:10,730 --> 01:13:18,010
They have producer mandates where they're requiring the OEMs to take back the batteries

968
01:13:18,010 --> 01:13:18,970
at the end of their life.

969
01:13:19,130 --> 01:13:24,210
And this is, I think, a direction that our region can take as well, kind of mandating

970
01:13:24,790 --> 01:13:27,890
a cradle to grave look at these technologies.

971
01:13:30,570 --> 01:13:37,990
Skag also wants to take a greater look at our infrastructure, thinking about how charging

972
01:13:37,990 --> 01:13:43,530
and fueling infrastructure can be incorporated as we design and build projects and also thinking

973
01:13:43,530 --> 01:13:48,110
about ways that this infrastructure might be able to incentivize use of these technologies.

974
01:13:48,970 --> 01:13:56,130
So once they get to a certain stage of commercialization, then you still have the hurdle of getting

975
01:13:56,130 --> 01:13:57,290
people to adapt them.

976
01:13:58,650 --> 01:14:03,950
So instead of merely one way of doing this is more public investment and defraying some

977
01:14:03,950 --> 01:14:05,750
of the incremental cost of the purchase.

978
01:14:06,450 --> 01:14:14,250
But potentially infrastructure can help catalyze this by providing greater access or reduced

979
01:14:14,250 --> 01:14:16,910
tolls if there was a toll lane, things like that.

980
01:14:22,390 --> 01:14:25,270
To this end, SCAG has a couple of studies going on.

981
01:14:25,270 --> 01:14:33,250
One thing is that we're currently initiating an integrated passenger and freight rail forecast,

982
01:14:33,630 --> 01:14:39,230
and that's going to include a look at opportunities to reduce emissions of rail.

983
01:14:40,570 --> 01:14:49,190
We have an ongoing study in San Bernardino County looking at different pathways to zero and near-zero emissions

984
01:14:49,190 --> 01:14:52,130
that will develop recommendations for the county.

985
01:14:57,130 --> 01:14:59,770
I know this slide is quite crowded.

986
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:07,320
It's exciting because, as I said, this effort has started over 10 years ago, but it's catching

987
01:15:07,320 --> 01:15:14,320
a lot more momentum now. And there's a lot of targets and commitments from both private

988
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:25,040
and public entities to see this goal realized. Some of these are regulatory. So, as I mentioned

989
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:34,080
earlier, ARB is looking at a regulation that would require by 2030, between 15 and 50 percent

990
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:40,480
of sales would be zero emissions, and that depends on the vehicle type and how it's used.

991
01:15:43,100 --> 01:15:49,240
On the private sector, on the private side, SOCal gas has committed to include 20 percent

992
01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:52,100
renewable gas in their pipeline by 2025.

993
01:15:53,560 --> 01:15:59,980
And Southern California Edison has a charge ready program and an electrification pathway.

994
01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:05,040
They want to deploy 870 charging sites by 2024.

995
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:13,700
And they project that by 2030 between 15 and between 6 and 15 percent of vehicles

996
01:16:13,700 --> 01:16:17,180
would be electrified depending on again on the vehicle class.

997
01:16:20,470 --> 01:16:26,390
So there's a lot of technologies that have potential to be zero and near zero emissions.

998
01:16:28,230 --> 01:16:34,190
Definitely, I think more progress has been made on the truck side rather than the rail side.

999
01:16:34,410 --> 01:16:36,330
I've definitely heard a lot more about those efforts.

1000
01:16:37,210 --> 01:16:42,790
These can range from kind of simple and very cost-effective things to improve the aerodynamics

1001
01:16:42,790 --> 01:16:46,410
and reduce the fuel needed to power the vehicles,

1002
01:16:47,490 --> 01:16:52,610
looking into other things like natural gas

1003
01:16:52,610 --> 01:16:55,010
or alternative fuels like electric and hydrogen.

1004
01:16:57,610 --> 01:17:02,690
The largest obstacles are the range, the power needs,

1005
01:17:03,250 --> 01:17:05,970
the charging time, and of course the cost.

1006
01:17:06,350 --> 01:17:08,150
But we expect that cost would decrease

1007
01:17:08,710 --> 01:17:10,550
as they become more developed.

1008
01:17:13,630 --> 01:17:21,770
Currently, there are already vehicles in use, mostly for local delivery operations, so FedEx,

1009
01:17:21,890 --> 01:17:27,890
UPS, and other companies like Coca-Cola and Frito-Lay have already been incorporated into

1010
01:17:28,210 --> 01:17:29,010
their deliveries.

1011
01:17:33,130 --> 01:17:40,430
So to conclude, the goods movement environmental strategy focused primarily on air quality,

1012
01:17:40,430 --> 01:17:45,310
and we put forth a vision of a zero and near zero emission system.

1013
01:17:46,130 --> 01:17:53,830
Our Technology Advancement Plan outlines a four-phase approach where technologies are iteratively developed and deployed through a cycle of continuous innovation.

1014
01:17:54,810 --> 01:18:08,170
Building on previous RTPs, this plan includes greater consideration of charging and fueling infrastructure and also advocates that this product bear in mind the development of a cradle-to-grave approach.

1015
01:18:08,170 --> 01:18:12,130
which were potential impacts associated with new materials

1016
01:18:12,130 --> 01:18:14,930
and extraction and disposal are accounted for.

1017
01:18:15,950 --> 01:18:19,130
As usual, any effort of this scale

1018
01:18:19,130 --> 01:18:21,810
requires a great deal of collaboration.

1019
01:18:22,810 --> 01:18:24,090
And as a regional convener,

1020
01:18:24,310 --> 01:18:27,470
SCAG is wanting to take a leadership role

1021
01:18:27,470 --> 01:18:28,830
in working with our partners

1022
01:18:28,830 --> 01:18:31,350
to do what we can to further this effort.

1023
01:18:32,010 --> 01:18:32,650
Thank you.

1024
01:18:33,490 --> 01:18:36,270
Are there any questions or comments on this?

1025
01:18:36,370 --> 01:18:37,270
Yes, Ms. Robinson.

1026
01:18:38,390 --> 01:18:45,390
Thank you. Not so much a question, but I have maybe a question to the body. I was wondering

1027
01:18:45,390 --> 01:18:49,330
how many of us that are sitting here are also sitting on emerging technologies.

1028
01:18:52,500 --> 01:18:53,280
And I guess

1029
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:58,440
why I asked the question is because as you were making the presentation and to your

1030
01:18:58,440 --> 01:19:05,440
point earlier about, you know, even we're into a next generation of not the fuel

1031
01:19:05,440 --> 01:19:11,440
sales or whatever, I feel a need that there needs to be some collaboration between the

1032
01:19:11,440 --> 01:19:12,400
two groups.

1033
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:17,320
I mean, we're a policy committee, and then that's a ad hoc committee right now.

1034
01:19:17,440 --> 01:19:21,740
But some of the conversations and the things you've covered, we still seem to be missing

1035
01:19:21,740 --> 01:19:26,800
some of the other things that are going on in emerging technology and also are probably

1036
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:34,320
contributing to adding to the NOCS and the things we're trying to address.

1037
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:39,440
but we're not touching on them. I think you briefly touched on it when you talked about

1038
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:47,620
I think you may have said something about wastewater treatment plants or some of it,

1039
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:52,900
but in the Emerging Technology Committee, we've been talking about going to look at

1040
01:19:52,900 --> 01:19:58,080
emerging technology, new technology, their facilities, and one of what we're talking about

1041
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:04,120
is looking at desalination plaques and what they mean, but I don't know if we've captured

1042
01:20:04,690 --> 01:20:12,360
even the process of moving product and pumping stations and how they admit it to the atmosphere

1043
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:18,600
or if we've even talked about one of the big projects I have in my city and yesterday

1044
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:28,540
California Energy Commission was there because they founded the grant is this big bio, what

1045
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:36,120
it's, that energy a plant is going to be the big digester project for organic waste.

1046
01:20:37,060 --> 01:20:41,900
And you know, I looked through a meeting with them to talk about it, but even if they

1047
01:20:41,900 --> 01:20:45,660
are doing one thing on site, one of the things I was sitting there thinking, I don't

1048
01:20:45,660 --> 01:20:51,200
I don't think we're planning for the infrastructure for the vehicles that could become electric

1049
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:55,360
vehicles that could move the product to that site.

1050
01:20:55,480 --> 01:21:00,820
I was talking to them about Access Road, but I'm sitting here thinking I need to go back

1051
01:21:00,820 --> 01:21:05,560
and have them put in that infrastructure now, and I doubt if it's in their plan.

1052
01:21:05,720 --> 01:21:07,100
I don't think they'll be opposed to it.

1053
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:11,280
So I was listening to the investment, the commitment, and it all starts,

1054
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:15,640
this is

1055
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:20,480
what they could do and should do before they finish it.

1056
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,100
So, is this something that I...

1057
01:21:23,100 --> 01:21:25,420
It's good to have these positive examples too.

1058
01:21:25,580 --> 01:21:29,740
And you talk about just even capturing methane gas from landfills

1059
01:21:29,740 --> 01:21:33,300
and having it used for your trash trucks that are in your neighborhood.

1060
01:21:34,300 --> 01:21:34,800
I don't even...

1061
01:21:35,180 --> 01:21:37,120
We don't have that currently in our county,

1062
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:39,860
but, you know, looking at where there are positive examples,

1063
01:21:40,380 --> 01:21:41,560
I think would be really helpful information.

1064
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:42,320
Well, and I would hope,

1065
01:21:42,540 --> 01:21:44,300
because that's what the conversation was yesterday,

1066
01:21:44,300 --> 01:21:50,520
is how do they make part of their responsibility through the California Energy Commission?

1067
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:55,760
I don't know if everyone knows, but there was nine grants that were let throughout the

1068
01:21:55,760 --> 01:22:02,060
state of California, and three of them were focused on disadvantaged communities, a question

1069
01:22:02,060 --> 01:22:08,640
how San Diego became a disadvantaged community in the port, but I now understand how.

1070
01:22:08,640 --> 01:22:17,360
But that's going on, and we seem to be all in these paths that are parallel, but they're not integrated.

1071
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:24,660
And I'm sitting there thinking, well, this is supposed, because this is the biggest one in the nation.

1072
01:22:25,100 --> 01:22:29,100
And I said to him, yes, it's big, but big as big as how big?

1073
01:22:29,440 --> 01:22:36,180
Because as soon as I tell the average person we're doing it, they go, oh, no, we have one down in Riverside and in Paris.

1074
01:22:36,180 --> 01:22:38,260
And I'm thinking that's not it.

1075
01:22:38,340 --> 01:22:43,900
So we were talking about awareness and education yesterday, and I listed SCAG as one place

1076
01:22:43,900 --> 01:22:49,200
where they need to come and present as well as a whole lot of others.

1077
01:22:49,480 --> 01:22:59,360
But it just dawned on me that here we have a opportunity to capture and maybe have partners

1078
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:05,660
building what we need that could be beneficial because it is co-located in

1079
01:23:05,660 --> 01:23:10,800
our wastewater treatment facility where we're building a brand-new big wastewater

1080
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:16,200
treatment facility. We're also testing first-in-a-nation technology of how we

1081
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:21,480
can process affluent water in a smaller footprint again funded by the

1082
01:23:21,480 --> 01:23:27,020
California Energy Commission and you know it's telling our story was one

1083
01:23:27,020 --> 01:23:31,860
of the things that Steve Lambert presented yesterday at our sub-region, but it's just

1084
01:23:31,860 --> 01:23:38,760
I'm looking at this and going somehow we're all in the same room, but we're not aware

1085
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:43,920
of what has been rolled out by the California Energy Commission, what they're funding,

1086
01:23:44,440 --> 01:23:50,600
and they're doing it for one reason because of regulatory behavior on the recycle side,

1087
01:23:51,500 --> 01:23:58,720
which relates to the landfills, which relates to eliminating the methane gas that comes out of the landfills.

1088
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:04,580
And so the digester is going to be they have the same thing by 20-something.

1089
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:08,360
We've got to have all this organic waste put in by commercial.

1090
01:24:08,980 --> 01:24:12,820
And I asked them, are you going to make the tonnage you need to make this work by next year?

1091
01:24:12,900 --> 01:24:16,920
And they go, yes, because they're making the tonnage by all of this.

1092
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,840
This gorgadic waste is going to be trucked in from LA to Rialto.

1093
01:24:21,740 --> 01:24:26,420
And I'm thinking, well, I got to work on figuring out how I get them into electric vehicles

1094
01:24:26,420 --> 01:24:27,660
or something.

1095
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:32,200
And so I just would, that's, I really like that idea that you mentioned.

1096
01:24:32,460 --> 01:24:37,220
And just think about the different summits that SCAG does put forward, just one that

1097
01:24:37,220 --> 01:24:43,180
just talks about great examples throughout our region where we're saving energy

1098
01:24:43,180 --> 01:24:43,620
or.

1099
01:24:43,620 --> 01:24:55,560
And I bring this up because the director called me, he was saying to me, he needed to understand what path and what comes out of emerging technology.

1100
01:24:55,880 --> 01:25:06,740
And so I was sharing with him what I've got on the emerging technology because my view is never – it's not never, but it's not just about the trucks and the vehicles.

1101
01:25:06,740 --> 01:25:12,300
vehicles. It's also the other sides of things that most of our community have to be sustained

1102
01:25:12,300 --> 01:25:19,340
with, which is for me, my passion is water. And we've got a very innovative discussion

1103
01:25:19,340 --> 01:25:26,380
going on. Desalination on the coast is not new technology. But it is new technology

1104
01:25:26,380 --> 01:25:31,160
and emerging technology, if you start talking about trying to bring desalved water all

1105
01:25:31,160 --> 01:25:37,400
the way into the Inland Empire and I have had the conversation with your mayor and my

1106
01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:44,380
neighbor because it's vital and we got to think outside the box we can't just all

1107
01:25:44,380 --> 01:25:50,200
rely on the aqueduct you know and so everybody thinks they're fine on the

1108
01:25:50,200 --> 01:26:00,820
water side so anyway we have the ability to show power we have the

1109
01:26:00,820 --> 01:26:03,960
the ability to plug in ships now so they don't sit there and idle.

1110
01:26:04,780 --> 01:26:08,600
I really like the idea that maybe the Emerging Technology Committee

1111
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:12,720
could put on a summit where they can present some of the best in the region

1112
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:14,940
and that will help the educators.

1113
01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:17,760
Well, I'm just thinking, we just got to figure out how do we connect problems.

1114
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:20,440
I like to think of it as coming from two directions.

1115
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:25,080
You need big picture thinkers that can really think about how to break down silos

1116
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:28,600
and find those connections, but then you really need the experts

1117
01:26:28,600 --> 01:26:32,040
who are deep in the weeds and can really understand the

1118
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:36,040
distinctions between the market and like the complications of

1119
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:39,500
you know installing of just even getting

1120
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:44,040
um the transportation community to talk with the energy community about

1121
01:26:44,580 --> 01:26:48,100
you know we want we think that this is the best location because

1122
01:26:48,660 --> 01:26:52,340
of demographics, trans travel patterns and then they're saying well

1123
01:26:53,180 --> 01:26:56,560
um but we need to get the power there

1124
01:26:56,560 --> 01:27:03,720
So you need that kind of expertise of people who know their subject matter really well and can talk about those distinctions.

1125
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:09,760
But as well, those big picture thinkers who want to break down those siles and coordinate those efforts.

1126
01:27:10,140 --> 01:27:10,900
So thank you for your comment.

1127
01:27:10,900 --> 01:27:14,620
And when you talk about price tags of $42 million to buy some equipment,

1128
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:24,940
maybe there are also things that can do legislatively that there may be a lot of bureaucratic hurdles that are necessary to knock down

1129
01:27:24,940 --> 01:27:29,080
so that some of these things can be less costly to put out there.

1130
01:27:29,580 --> 01:27:33,200
So ways that we can encourage that, I think, would be good to know, too.

1131
01:27:34,100 --> 01:27:38,960
Yeah. I mean, I think, well, if you think about the regulations that are coming down,

1132
01:27:40,280 --> 01:27:43,520
public investment is generally used for beyond regulation.

1133
01:27:44,680 --> 01:27:50,560
So once the regulations are in place, then the cost to some extent shifts.

1134
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:57,200
That doesn't mean it completely shifts, though, because then the focus is on providing assistance to help meet those regulations.

1135
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,540
Do we have any other questions or comments on this one?

1136
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:02,380
Oh, please go ahead.

1137
01:28:07,750 --> 01:28:19,210
A mention was made of the cost of the equipment, but I think in the overall context of the port and how the port operates, to me it's not that much.

1138
01:28:19,210 --> 01:28:32,590
Because if you look at what it costs for the port to buy a crane or their tenants to buy a crane or to buy some of their other equipment, regardless of how it's powered, it's going to be millions of dollars anyway.

1139
01:28:33,570 --> 01:28:44,590
So when we say it's that much, we really should be looking at the differential between the clean equipment and the dirty equipment, because the dirty equipment is pretty darn expensive as well.

1140
01:28:44,590 --> 01:28:48,030
And I think that people, oh, it costs so much.

1141
01:28:48,490 --> 01:28:49,930
Well, look at the differential.

1142
01:28:51,650 --> 01:28:55,390
Like even say the differential between an electric car and a gas-powered car.

1143
01:28:55,770 --> 01:29:03,190
Yeah, it costs more, but it's not, you know, if you just look at the raw cost as opposed to the differential,

1144
01:29:03,370 --> 01:29:05,230
it seems a lot more expensive than it is.

1145
01:29:06,570 --> 01:29:12,010
And then if you look at the kinds of volumes of freight coming through the port,

1146
01:29:14,150 --> 01:29:19,970
You're looking at maybe two cents on a pair of sneakers and you figure some celebrity

1147
01:29:19,970 --> 01:29:26,050
spokesman is getting a lot bigger cut for each pair of sneakers than we're getting for

1148
01:29:26,050 --> 01:29:26,610
clean air.

1149
01:29:29,030 --> 01:29:32,730
I'm just thinking of overall costs of production and advertising and marketing.

1150
01:29:34,050 --> 01:29:37,410
So basically clean air tends to be an afterthought there.

1151
01:29:40,070 --> 01:29:45,610
In some ways, I'm encouraged at hearing all this, but in other ways, I'm somewhat discouraged

1152
01:29:45,610 --> 01:29:51,970
because a lot of this conversation seems to be repeats of things that Greed knows 15 years

1153
01:29:51,970 --> 01:29:52,170
ago.

1154
01:29:52,290 --> 01:29:56,770
We're talking about some of this, and some of it was supposed to be done long ago.

1155
01:29:56,770 --> 01:29:57,210
and then you

1156
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:06,300
You read in the times, for example, they were supposed to be like plug-in vessels. When

1157
01:30:06,300 --> 01:30:11,140
you come into port, you don't run your generators, you plug in. And then what was it a couple

1158
01:30:11,140 --> 01:30:14,640
years ago, the Times said even though they'd agreed to do all this stuff, they weren't

1159
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:19,660
doing it. And so I really hope that this time it comes to fruition because also looking

1160
01:30:19,660 --> 01:30:23,720
at the environmental justice study, there have been a lot of environmental justice studies

1161
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:29,400
regarding goods movements, particularly around the port area, but also along the transportation

1162
01:30:30,740 --> 01:30:34,400
and around some of the freight hubs in the Inland Empire.

1163
01:30:35,380 --> 01:30:41,380
And I think it's time we stopped studying the effect on our lower-income communities

1164
01:30:41,380 --> 01:30:45,760
and started alleviating the effect on our lower-income communities.

1165
01:30:46,900 --> 01:30:51,200
We seem to study things a lot, and so, like I say, I'm very encouraged,

1166
01:30:51,340 --> 01:30:56,920
but in some ways I'm discouraged because there are things

1167
01:30:56,920 --> 01:31:00,920
that you would hope would have been done by now. I remember talking about rail

1168
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:07,360
electrification in the 1990s. We're still talking about it. Do I sound

1169
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:13,220
frustrated? Maybe a little bit. But the one thing I would point out, and there's

1170
01:31:13,220 --> 01:31:16,480
things that they were doing in ports like Rotterdam 20 years ago, we haven't

1171
01:31:16,480 --> 01:31:17,240
started doing it.

1172
01:31:19,520 --> 01:31:25,300
And I know that the EPA currently, the administration is

1173
01:31:25,300 --> 01:31:29,020
not inclined to look at stricter rules on the environment.

1174
01:31:31,260 --> 01:31:33,620
But I might point out as an

1175
01:31:33,620 --> 01:31:40,360
alternate strategy, a great many of the shipping companies at the ports of LA and Long Beach

1176
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:47,340
are owned by Chinese, which may incline the administration to come down a little harder

1177
01:31:47,340 --> 01:31:52,820
on some of the rules, even though that may be for the wrong reasons. But that may

1178
01:31:52,820 --> 01:31:59,620
I mean, you hate to utilize weird stuff like that, but at the same time it may present an

1179
01:31:59,620 --> 01:32:05,000
opportunity to at least get a foot in the door with the administration. It's kind of bizarre,

1180
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:13,320
but it could be. But I think the biggest thing is that we look at the cost of some of this stuff,

1181
01:32:13,380 --> 01:32:17,560
and it seems like it's so much, but when you look at the vast, vast volume of freight

1182
01:32:17,560 --> 01:32:25,360
coming through. Oh, it would be 50 cents more on a plasma TV. I mean, that's just insane

1183
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:31,180
to look at the number without the context of the vast amount of goods coming through.

1184
01:32:31,680 --> 01:32:32,020
Thank you.

1185
01:32:32,300 --> 01:32:32,600
Thank you.

1186
01:32:32,980 --> 01:32:37,740
Very good point. Thank you. I know we have Judy, then Carmen, then Margaret.

1187
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:39,800
So

1188
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:44,300
many things to talk about.

1189
01:32:45,240 --> 01:32:50,580
I want to thank the presenter for your presentation.

1190
01:32:51,760 --> 01:33:05,900
And as I heard that, I thought SCAG is a good place to be the clearinghouse for a lot of things that are going on that affect all of us and affect what we do as local government leaders.

1191
01:33:08,540 --> 01:33:12,880
And I imagine many of you don't know that these things are going on.

1192
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:16,660
For those of you here, how much of this is a surprise?

1193
01:33:23,650 --> 01:33:29,450
Because as a regulator on the car board and on the Air Quality Management District Board,

1194
01:33:30,070 --> 01:33:34,090
I'm very involved in all of these things that deal with electric vehicles,

1195
01:33:34,310 --> 01:33:35,470
that deal with goods movements.

1196
01:33:35,470 --> 01:33:40,990
You're talking about the indirect source rule that we're planning for certain facilities

1197
01:33:40,990 --> 01:33:42,150
around the region.

1198
01:33:43,770 --> 01:33:51,510
And there's just a lot of, a lot going on and a lot of different things in the mix.

1199
01:33:52,270 --> 01:34:00,870
Deborah talked about Derry Digester program out in her area and what she mentioned was

1200
01:34:00,870 --> 01:34:04,730
is the one that is down near Paris, which is CCNR,

1201
01:34:05,230 --> 01:34:07,330
and that is a dairy digester operation.

1202
01:34:07,630 --> 01:34:11,330
They are producing renewable natural gas.

1203
01:34:11,950 --> 01:34:13,950
It doesn't have anything to do with an electric,

1204
01:34:14,350 --> 01:34:16,430
pre-electric engine.

1205
01:34:17,030 --> 01:34:21,310
It has to do with low-nox renewable natural gas

1206
01:34:21,310 --> 01:34:23,490
that fuels their trash trucks.

1207
01:34:24,410 --> 01:34:27,970
So the gas is generated there,

1208
01:34:28,270 --> 01:34:30,210
the trucks come there and get fueled up,

1209
01:34:30,210 --> 01:34:34,250
and then they operate in their neighborhoods on renewable natural gas.

1210
01:34:35,730 --> 01:34:41,390
There's a bit of a struggle with renewable natural gas and the competition between renewable

1211
01:34:41,390 --> 01:34:43,310
natural gas and pure electric.

1212
01:34:44,250 --> 01:34:47,690
And that is going on around in our state.

1213
01:34:47,870 --> 01:34:52,190
And that's something I've been enmeshed in and burdened with,

1214
01:34:54,990 --> 01:34:55,490
exactly.

1215
01:34:56,790 --> 01:35:08,750
So, there is a low NOx natural gas truck that reduces the NOx emissions considerably.

1216
01:35:09,670 --> 01:35:10,870
It's commercialized.

1217
01:35:10,910 --> 01:35:12,050
It's certified by carb.

1218
01:35:12,230 --> 01:35:12,830
It's on the road.

1219
01:35:14,450 --> 01:35:19,770
But there's been a struggle in getting funding for that truck and the competition between

1220
01:35:19,770 --> 01:35:21,930
that technology and pure electric.

1221
01:35:23,090 --> 01:35:40,490
And certainly that technology is best for our south coast region because we have these attainment deadlines that they were talking about in 2023 and 2031 where we need to reduce NOx emissions by dramatic amounts, 50 some percent.

1222
01:35:41,110 --> 01:35:46,890
And one of the pathways to get there is that low NOx truck.

1223
01:35:47,490 --> 01:35:54,630
We also, the South Coast Area Quality Management District went to Washington at the end of the Obama administration

1224
01:35:54,630 --> 01:35:59,970
and submitted a petition for a low knock standard that is a national standard.

1225
01:36:00,650 --> 01:36:05,710
Because a lot of the trucks that come into California are from out of state.

1226
01:36:06,050 --> 01:36:08,750
And so there's no regulation that governs those.

1227
01:36:09,190 --> 01:36:11,890
So we wanted to have a national low knock standard.

1228
01:36:11,890 --> 01:36:18,830
and we've heard recently that the US EPA is going to begin working on that, so we have some high hopes

1229
01:36:18,830 --> 01:36:29,770
that maybe that will happen. A CARB also has a regulation scheduled in 2020 for a low NOx standard

1230
01:36:29,770 --> 01:36:35,130
for California, so we may see it happening in our state as well as nationally.

1231
01:36:37,630 --> 01:36:38,430
One of the

1232
01:36:38,430 --> 01:36:43,170
things that we need to worry about here at SCAG is the issue we're going to face with

1233
01:36:43,170 --> 01:36:51,750
transportation conformity. That comes into jeopardy in part because President Trump wants

1234
01:36:51,750 --> 01:36:59,290
to roll back the CAFE standards and eliminate California's waiver to have lower standards,

1235
01:36:59,490 --> 01:37:07,150
lower mission standards than the national standard. And so I know I've heard people

1236
01:37:07,150 --> 01:37:16,030
talking both here at SCAG, at CARB, and at AQMD about what will happen if when that standard gets rolled back.

1237
01:37:16,250 --> 01:37:22,190
And we will definitely be facing a problem with transportation conformity, and it kicks in immediately.

1238
01:37:23,390 --> 01:37:29,310
There isn't any lag period. If that, if we don't meet that standard, we'll be out of conformity,

1239
01:37:29,310 --> 01:37:37,070
and the federal government will take over our implementation plans for emission reductions

1240
01:37:37,070 --> 01:37:41,870
and can, you know, impose penalties on the state.

1241
01:37:42,490 --> 01:37:45,790
So that's something we all need to be worried about and thinking about.

1242
01:37:47,210 --> 01:37:49,310
We talked a little bit about money.

1243
01:37:50,230 --> 01:37:57,250
And let me bring up that when the South Coast Area District passed their Quality Management Plan,

1244
01:37:57,250 --> 01:38:08,950
Part of that plan was to generate one billion dollars a year in funding to help the turnover

1245
01:38:08,950 --> 01:38:12,010
of fleets and also stationary sources.

1246
01:38:12,250 --> 01:38:17,610
Incentive money is to provide the money for that gap that you're talking about between

1247
01:38:17,610 --> 01:38:22,130
what ordinary equipment might cost and what the cleaner equipment costs.

1248
01:38:23,010 --> 01:38:29,710
And so Ben Allen carried a bill for us last year. It's a two-year bill. It's SB 732.

1249
01:38:30,390 --> 01:38:36,210
And what we have run up against, what it was, was it was a bill that would give the South Coast Air Quality Management

1250
01:38:36,210 --> 01:38:42,770
District the authority to put a measure on the ballot to increase the sales tax.

1251
01:38:43,290 --> 01:38:49,070
And a lot of cities have pushed back on that because they're already running up against the cap on sales tax.

1252
01:38:49,070 --> 01:38:55,570
there is a cap, and cities are worried that that will impact that. The bill

1253
01:38:55,570 --> 01:39:02,290
exempted this item from that cap, this sales tax from that cap, but I think

1254
01:39:02,290 --> 01:39:06,910
they were still concerned that if you brought that to your voters there's a

1255
01:39:06,910 --> 01:39:10,810
lot of voter exhaustion over, you know, one more tax, one more thing, you know,

1256
01:39:10,830 --> 01:39:15,610
we've done lots of transportation sales taxes, etc., so there was, you know,

1257
01:39:15,610 --> 01:39:21,750
some pushback on that. That's become a two-year bill and it will proceed again next year but

1258
01:39:21,750 --> 01:39:26,610
I want to bring it to your attention so you can think about that, how that might impact

1259
01:39:26,610 --> 01:39:35,650
your city. Before we embarked on that plan, we did polling with FM3 and the polling showed

1260
01:39:35,650 --> 01:39:41,830
that the voters, the constituents, are very concerned about air quality and they supported

1261
01:39:41,830 --> 01:39:46,990
a sales tax to improve air quality. It was overwhelming. It was like more than 50 percent

1262
01:39:46,990 --> 01:39:52,910
in all the counties, all the four counties that AQMD operates in. So it's just something

1263
01:39:52,910 --> 01:39:57,350
to think about. I don't know whether it'll be a success or a – the idea was just to

1264
01:39:57,350 --> 01:40:02,450
create a voter authorization district. Let the voters decide. You know, we're not

1265
01:40:02,450 --> 01:40:06,210
going to – AQMD isn't going to impose that sales tax. Let the voters decide. Do

1266
01:40:06,210 --> 01:40:10,750
they want to tax themselves for cleaner air? And so that's kind of out there

1267
01:40:10,750 --> 01:40:14,010
are floating in the legislative chambers for next year.

1268
01:40:15,150 --> 01:40:16,790
The other thing I want to mention

1269
01:40:16,790 --> 01:40:18,930
that is happening because it was brought up

1270
01:40:18,930 --> 01:40:20,250
about environmental justice.

1271
01:40:21,310 --> 01:40:25,150
The legislature passed a bill about a year and a half ago,

1272
01:40:25,290 --> 01:40:30,070
AB 617, that requires all the local air

1273
01:40:30,070 --> 01:40:33,690
districts to identify severely impacted communities,

1274
01:40:34,010 --> 01:40:35,870
environmental justice communities that

1275
01:40:35,870 --> 01:40:38,430
are impacted by emissions.

1276
01:40:38,430 --> 01:40:39,950
And so,

1277
01:40:41,980 --> 01:40:45,040
South Coast District has three communities.

1278
01:40:45,860 --> 01:40:48,840
And it is taking up a lot of staff time.

1279
01:40:49,740 --> 01:40:51,860
This is the first year we've had it in place.

1280
01:40:52,760 --> 01:40:58,880
And the law requires the identification of communities,

1281
01:40:59,980 --> 01:41:03,060
the ones that each local air district wants to focus on.

1282
01:41:03,720 --> 01:41:07,580
Then each community forms a steering committee.

1283
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:10,760
And those steering committees have been meeting over the year.

1284
01:41:10,900 --> 01:41:16,540
I know Deborah, she left, but there's one in Deborah's community out in Muscovia San Bernardino.

1285
01:41:18,280 --> 01:41:25,680
And then in South Coast, the result of those meetings and this year of work has been to

1286
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:32,680
a develop a monitoring plan to monitor what emissions are in those communities and then

1287
01:41:32,680 --> 01:41:38,140
to develop an emissions reduction plan, which goes right toward, you know, what those emissions

1288
01:41:38,140 --> 01:41:40,520
are and how are we going to reduce them, how are we going to get there.

1289
01:41:41,420 --> 01:41:47,980
So that item approval of the Community Emission Reduction Plans is on the AQMD agenda tomorrow.

1290
01:41:48,900 --> 01:41:54,080
So anybody who's interested, you can tune in or it's webcast and take a look at that.

1291
01:41:54,080 --> 01:42:03,820
So that has been a project that has taken up tremendous amount of time at AQMD.

1292
01:42:04,420 --> 01:42:09,780
I mean, meetings are held in three communities and every month there's some meeting going on somewhere.

1293
01:42:10,500 --> 01:42:19,820
Ultimately, the California Resources Board will approve those community emission reduction plans called SERPs, CERP.

1294
01:42:21,260 --> 01:42:25,800
each local air district reviews those plans and decides whether or not to adopt them.

1295
01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:32,700
So, the other thing that was brought up the rail, rail issues, well, I went to Washington,

1296
01:42:32,920 --> 01:42:36,220
we sat down with the Federal Rail Authority, and the first thing they said when we walked

1297
01:42:36,220 --> 01:42:38,760
into the room and sat down was, we're exempt.

1298
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:40,880
And they are exempt.

1299
01:42:41,220 --> 01:42:45,080
They're exempt from any regulation that we may try to do, whether it's carb or whether

1300
01:42:45,080 --> 01:42:46,240
it's a local air district.

1301
01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:51,640
So that is what we run up against when we are working with the rail.

1302
01:42:52,480 --> 01:42:58,860
The rail is one of those boxes for facility-based regulation.

1303
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:04,140
So we're working with them and we'll see whether we can come to any kind of agreement

1304
01:43:04,140 --> 01:43:12,120
because the rail yards in the central part of the city of industry and that city of commerce down there

1305
01:43:12,120 --> 01:43:16,760
Our have not been good neighbors, have not been easy to work with.

1306
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:24,460
And we have our rail yards out in San Bernardino, the Muscoly region, too, where we're trying

1307
01:43:24,460 --> 01:43:25,840
to work with them as well.

1308
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:33,160
So and you mentioned the Chinese issue, I don't know how many of you know the Long

1309
01:43:33,160 --> 01:43:37,340
Beach Container Terminal down in the Port of Long Beach is all electric.

1310
01:43:37,340 --> 01:43:45,760
electric. It's the only port terminal in our ports that is all electric. It was Chinese-owned

1311
01:43:45,760 --> 01:43:52,220
and Chinese-funded. So there's some good things happening out of China as well. So anyway,

1312
01:43:52,340 --> 01:43:57,900
that's the end of my speech. But that's what I do think is...

1313
01:44:00,580 --> 01:44:06,040
I just think we're so fortunate to have you on this committee. You bring so much

1314
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:11,200
It's really important that we exchange this kind of information on your reports.

1315
01:44:11,820 --> 01:44:18,360
The reports this morning here in this committee are very well attuned to what is happening

1316
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:22,260
in the air quality area, both at Carbon at the local air district.

1317
01:44:22,580 --> 01:44:26,920
And so this is a good place to have that clearinghouse, to have these things talked about

1318
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:28,120
so people know what's happening.

1319
01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:31,700
And having you here to let us know what's happening is really helpful.

1320
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:38,360
We have a couple more comments and questions on this, and we also have another presentation.

1321
01:44:38,780 --> 01:44:43,180
And my suggestion is that we hold that next presentation until our next meeting.

1322
01:44:43,680 --> 01:44:46,240
If that's okay with everyone, we'll continue working on this.

1323
01:44:47,220 --> 01:44:49,440
This topic is really important.

1324
01:44:50,280 --> 01:44:51,840
So, Carmen, do you want to go next?

1325
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:53,160
Yes, really quickly.

1326
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:54,480
And thank you, everybody.

1327
01:44:55,100 --> 01:44:59,540
And Judy, we need to capture everything you said.

1328
01:44:59,540 --> 01:44:59,920
some

1329
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:08,220
Think about the human impact of these changes. I know for a long time, the people who work there

1330
01:45:08,220 --> 01:45:15,420
are considered independent contractors, and they live almost a medieval existence because

1331
01:45:15,420 --> 01:45:23,380
they have to buy everything, work very long hours, and it works out to a very, very small

1332
01:45:23,380 --> 01:45:27,620
amount of money to take home, and a lot of them live in the quarter that's impacted

1333
01:45:27,620 --> 01:45:35,040
by all the emissions. So I know there's been a big issue about mechanization or robots

1334
01:45:35,860 --> 01:45:42,100
in the LA port I think, and that's been controversial. But I think it would really be good to have

1335
01:45:42,100 --> 01:45:48,180
a discussion about what it's going to take to help people transition and not just leave

1336
01:45:48,180 --> 01:45:55,420
people stranded because they cannot purchase their own equipment or we don't need those

1337
01:45:55,420 --> 01:46:01,240
individuals to work in or what does that mean to them and their families and how we all have

1338
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:04,240
to take responsibility for not stranding people.

1339
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:08,860
I think that's a big challenge for the quote-unquote green new deal.

1340
01:46:09,020 --> 01:46:15,020
How do we get people into new industries that are cleaner without abandoning people

1341
01:46:15,020 --> 01:46:15,740
like the coal miners?

1342
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:19,900
So, big challenge here, so I just want to mention that thing.

1343
01:46:20,940 --> 01:46:26,440
And I know also the unions are very involved in that too, but it is important to realize

1344
01:46:26,440 --> 01:46:32,560
what the impacts are of being able to go green and sometimes that does impact jobs.

1345
01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:34,720
Margaret, you have a comment.

1346
01:46:34,940 --> 01:46:40,020
I think this has been one of the most valuable discussions we've had where we bring these

1347
01:46:40,020 --> 01:46:43,900
things and I totally agree with Judy that we should – SCAG could be the clearinghouse

1348
01:46:43,900 --> 01:46:45,440
and screaming and yelling, if you will.

1349
01:46:45,440 --> 01:46:59,320
And when Deborah said the right hand doesn't talk to the left hand, I just have to say that the biggest I told her so in my life was when in the mid-90s, when carb before Judy was on mandated cleaner gasoline additive, okay?

1350
01:46:59,660 --> 01:47:05,540
And it turned out to be MTVE, and I helped form the San Gabriel base of water quality 30 for the groundwater cleanup.

1351
01:47:05,580 --> 01:47:09,440
So we were involved in water, and the water people said, this is going to get into the groundwater.

1352
01:47:09,440 --> 01:47:14,380
And so I argued with the biggest cities, we talked, the guy from CARB, and he said,

1353
01:47:14,500 --> 01:47:18,940
oh no, we're just going to double on all the gasoline storage tanks and share up all the pipelines.

1354
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:25,780
And I was on a committee with the regional board, the water board, called the leaking underground storage tank.

1355
01:47:26,000 --> 01:47:27,960
We joked it was lust for short, okay?

1356
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:34,680
And if you have a committee, if you have a problem big enough to have a committee studying, it's a big problem.

1357
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:44,920
So if you google it today, maybe it's even more, but $30 billion for cleanup because the right hand wasn't talking to the left hand.

1358
01:47:45,100 --> 01:47:49,060
The air people were not listening to the water people. And that was an epiphany for me.

1359
01:47:49,140 --> 01:47:55,460
We better be screaming and yelling because if the regulators don't know what they're doing and not willing to coordinate,

1360
01:47:56,020 --> 01:47:58,740
we're going to have unintended consequences everywhere.

1361
01:47:58,740 --> 01:48:11,280
So I really hope that Skag can take what we have and really bring things, educate all of us, and be advocates because we're in trouble if we don't.

1362
01:48:11,740 --> 01:48:13,180
That's my rant.

1363
01:48:13,180 --> 01:48:18,820
I would comment that that's why we've included a greater focus on the life cycle impacts of

1364
01:48:18,820 --> 01:48:20,320
the technology this time around.

1365
01:48:21,180 --> 01:48:25,940
Just thinking about, you know, it's so new and there's such an opportunity to make it

1366
01:48:25,940 --> 01:48:29,440
a full circle, holistically beneficial product.

1367
01:48:31,180 --> 01:48:38,580
I thank you very much and I know our next presenter, Hina, was to have 20 minutes.

1368
01:48:38,580 --> 01:48:45,400
Is this something that you would like to hold off on or be able to present in a short period of time?

1369
01:48:45,540 --> 01:48:46,580
I don't see her at the moment.

1370
01:48:46,580 --> 01:48:48,020
That answers that question.

1371
01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:48,620
She might have left.

1372
01:48:48,640 --> 01:48:49,020
Thank you.

1373
01:48:50,020 --> 01:48:50,820
All right.

1374
01:48:51,640 --> 01:48:55,000
At that, then, we'll go to the chair's report.

1375
01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:57,300
Thanks, everyone, for all your comments.

1376
01:48:57,800 --> 01:48:58,180
Thank you.

1377
01:48:58,500 --> 01:49:04,520
And I just want to thank Vice Chair Pollack for leading the meeting at our last meeting.

1378
01:49:04,520 --> 01:49:11,320
and I know he did an excellent job and I appreciate his work on that, and our next item is our

1379
01:49:11,320 --> 01:49:11,920
staff report.

1380
01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:13,120
Do you have anything to report?

1381
01:49:13,620 --> 01:49:19,600
No, but I will make sure that Hina can come back and talk about the safety strategy at

1382
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:20,120
our next meeting.

1383
01:49:20,340 --> 01:49:20,780
Thank you.

1384
01:49:21,340 --> 01:49:23,360
And then also future agenda items.

1385
01:49:23,540 --> 01:49:29,420
This could be, well, would you like to do a encapsulation of your presentation

1386
01:49:29,420 --> 01:49:30,940
or wait till next time?

1387
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:32,640
This will be really quick.

1388
01:49:32,640 --> 01:49:33,620
so I can go. Okay.

1389
01:49:37,950 --> 01:49:44,350
Hello everyone. It's good afternoon almost. My name is Inna Chinchalani

1390
01:49:44,350 --> 01:49:50,530
and I am an assistant planner with the Transportation Planning and Programming Team and I'll be talking

1391
01:49:50,530 --> 01:49:54,830
about the safety element for Conex SOCAL 2020 draft plan.

1392
01:50:09,830 --> 01:50:11,510
So the goals for the Transportation

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01:50:11,510 --> 01:50:15,830
Safety Report was to identify strategies that will align with the State Strategic

1394
01:50:15,830 --> 01:50:22,250
strategic highway safety plan, and that also allowed locals, county and regional agencies

1395
01:50:22,250 --> 01:50:25,410
to identify projects that support Connect SoCal implementation.

1396
01:50:26,650 --> 01:50:33,030
And SCAD also identified actions that cities and counties can take in their future to support

1397
01:50:33,030 --> 01:50:37,150
transportation safety planning and project implementation across the region.

1398
01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:46,980
So before we started coming up with the safety strategies for the Connect SoCal 2020 plan,

1399
01:50:47,140 --> 01:50:54,660
we looked at the existing conditions. Approximately 1,500 people die every year, 5,200 are seriously

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01:50:54,660 --> 01:51:04,940
injured and 136,000 people are injured in collisions every year. About 270 collisions

1401
01:51:04,940 --> 01:51:12,840
occur per day in SCAG region, which accounts for 99,000 collisions per year.

1402
01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:22,440
The trends have been going up since 2012, and so SCAG came up with some safety strategies

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01:51:22,440 --> 01:51:23,700
as shown on this slide.

1404
01:51:24,340 --> 01:51:29,700
These safety strategies are grounded in the Strategic Highway Safety Plan.

1405
01:51:29,880 --> 01:51:31,420
It's a state safety plan.

1406
01:51:33,220 --> 01:51:39,080
The Conexocal prioritizes ensuring safety and mobility of the region's residents, including

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01:51:39,080 --> 01:51:45,520
drivers, passengers, transit riders, pedestrians, bicyclists, and SCAG identified actions for

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01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:50,140
cities to implement for these 16 challenge areas in the SCAG region.

1409
01:51:56,050 --> 01:52:02,450
So the first challenge area is reducing, so the challenge area second is improving

1410
01:52:02,450 --> 01:52:06,870
improving safety for aging population, and an example of the strategies are shown on

1411
01:52:06,870 --> 01:52:13,450
the slide. We have seven strategies for improving safety for aging population in our region,

1412
01:52:14,410 --> 01:52:20,170
and SCAD recommends that cities should promote implementation of multimodal guidance included

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01:52:20,170 --> 01:52:28,490
on the manual on uniformed traffic control devices, MUTCD. Cities should also implement

1414
01:52:28,490 --> 01:52:33,970
design treatments like curb extension, bulb outs, and refuge islands to enhance safety for older

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01:52:33,970 --> 01:52:42,390
population. The left picture is an example of how cities can implement curb extensions,

1416
01:52:42,790 --> 01:52:49,990
bulb outs, and the right side of the picture is MUTCD guidance at the federal level.

1417
01:52:52,140 --> 01:53:05,920
So these are some of the SCAG actions that we are planning for the Conex Ocal Draft 2020 plan.

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01:53:18,780 --> 01:53:22,460
SCAG has developed and maintained a high injury network mapping tool

1419
01:53:22,460 --> 01:53:26,500
that will support planning efforts related to transportation safety in our region.

1420
01:53:26,500 --> 01:53:32,040
SCAG will also support regional safety efforts including vision zero policies and plans and

1421
01:53:32,040 --> 01:53:37,820
also provide technical assistance for the cities to develop these plans through safety workshop

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01:53:37,820 --> 01:53:43,300
and webinars that we recently conducted. The webinars are upcoming so please look out for

1423
01:53:43,300 --> 01:53:48,200
the for further information on the webinars and there are a couple of other action items

1424
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:53,020
systems that SCAG is planning to implement for the Conexo Cal 2020 plan.

1425
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:59,420
So traditionally there have been two approaches to safety.

1426
01:54:00,100 --> 01:54:03,900
One of them is in traditional approach and one of them is a safe systems approach.

1427
01:54:04,420 --> 01:54:10,520
These three approaches come under safe systems approach and SCAG is going with the towards

1428
01:54:10,520 --> 01:54:15,040
zero deaths approach for the Conexo Cal 2020 plan.

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01:54:15,040 --> 01:54:15,100
plan.

1430
01:54:15,480 --> 01:54:22,040
The towards zero death approach aligns with the state's plan and that is one of the reasons

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01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:24,780
that SCAC is going for the towards zero death approach.

1432
01:54:27,780 --> 01:54:37,220
So far, 12 cities, one county and one county in SCAC region have a vision zero plan and

1433
01:54:37,780 --> 01:54:43,900
some of which are in development and 47 cities have safety element which has been incorporated

1434
01:54:43,900 --> 01:54:45,260
it in their general plans.

1435
01:54:45,620 --> 01:54:51,260
And this is a map basically showing which cities have vision zero policies, safety plan

1436
01:54:51,260 --> 01:54:52,100
and safety targets.

1437
01:54:55,380 --> 01:55:04,680
So MAP 21 is a federal requirement and it indicates that MPOs have to set five safety performance

1438
01:55:04,680 --> 01:55:05,360
measures.

1439
01:55:05,720 --> 01:55:09,700
These are the five safety performance measures on the slide.

1440
01:55:09,700 --> 01:55:17,660
And these are the targets that we committed to for 2019 safety targets.

1441
01:55:21,540 --> 01:55:26,420
Lastly, I'd like to talk a little bit about zero-traffic fatalities task force.

1442
01:55:27,160 --> 01:55:31,500
AB 2363 was passed on September 2018.

1443
01:55:32,460 --> 01:55:37,880
The bill requires establishing a task force for zero-traffic fatalities by the Secretary of Transportation.

1444
01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:44,440
And the task force will provide a report before January 1st, 2020, and it will analyze issues

1445
01:55:44,440 --> 01:55:46,820
related to setting speed limits on the streets.

1446
01:55:47,680 --> 01:55:53,620
Councilmember Megan Sally Wells is a SCAG representative for this important task force,

1447
01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:58,740
and she has been an important voice on behalf of SCAG on advocating for region's need

1448
01:55:58,740 --> 01:56:03,920
to adjusting speed limits that will promote safety for all users of the road.

1449
01:56:04,460 --> 01:56:05,820
And that's my time.

1450
01:56:06,220 --> 01:56:06,920
Thank you so much.

1451
01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:09,400
That was good, alright.

1452
01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:15,580
So with that, you have, okay, go ahead, two comments, thank you.

1453
01:56:15,580 --> 01:56:21,880
Those of you who know me know, I lost a friend on a bicycle years ago and I've always been advocating for safe protected bike lanes.

1454
01:56:22,260 --> 01:56:31,780
I don't see that much in the rails to trails where you take the abandoned railroad tracks and make them into bicycle lanes.

1455
01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:35,360
Why don't we have anything there to encourage that?

1456
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:42,900
So we do have specific strategies under these challenge areas and one of the

1457
01:56:42,900 --> 01:56:48,720
strategy one of the challenge area is ensuring and improving bicycle safety

1458
01:56:48,720 --> 01:56:53,720
and not just bicycle safety but also other mode safety and one of the action

1459
01:56:53,720 --> 01:56:59,840
that we ask cities to implement is complete the present or the current

1460
01:56:59,840 --> 01:57:04,820
and bicycle networks and also create some active transportation plans.

1461
01:57:05,180 --> 01:57:10,400
But protected bike lanes in there? I don't understand why it isn't one of the bullets.

1462
01:57:11,780 --> 01:57:18,080
Just painting a stripe with everybody on their cell phones and the marijuana and everything,

1463
01:57:18,420 --> 01:57:19,440
it's going to get worse.

1464
01:57:19,960 --> 01:57:25,020
I'll just step in here because I'm on the task force. The number one cause of death

1465
01:57:25,020 --> 01:57:32,080
is speed. The number one cause of death is speed. So yes, protected bike lanes, but that's

1466
01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:32,920
not the only thing.

1467
01:57:35,260 --> 01:57:41,160
That's not for pedestrians either. So really the focus is speed and how

1468
01:57:41,160 --> 01:57:46,400
are we lowering speed both through some of the California state laws, which are making

1469
01:57:46,400 --> 01:57:52,300
it hard and expensive for us to actually lower speed limits and be able to enforce

1470
01:57:52,300 --> 01:58:01,880
But also, there are a lot of physical things like the complete street strategy that has to be part of our planning unless, you know, if we want any grant money or anything.

1471
01:58:02,540 --> 01:58:12,060
These are the types of things that we need to implement. They absolutely include protected bike lanes, but that is not the only strategy because it is speed that kills.

1472
01:58:12,520 --> 01:58:15,880
Thank you. And we have one other question. Council Member Springer.

1473
01:58:17,220 --> 01:58:24,860
Yes. On page 52, it says, reduce the occurrence of lane departure fatalities. What's a lane

1474
01:58:24,860 --> 01:58:33,080
departure? A lane departure is when a vehicle is leaving. A vehicle is stopping at a stop sign

1475
01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:44,940
and then it's leaving and it collides with another vehicle. It's a lane departure. Thank you.

1476
01:58:45,680 --> 01:58:46,980
Can I answer your question?

1477
01:58:48,100 --> 01:58:48,420
You're good.

1478
01:58:48,960 --> 01:58:50,000
And then Council Member Gardner.

1479
01:58:51,780 --> 01:58:53,220
Actually, mine is a future item.

1480
01:58:53,600 --> 01:58:54,000
Okay.

1481
01:58:54,120 --> 01:58:54,660
When we get there.

1482
01:58:56,560 --> 01:59:00,550
And then that is, let's go there then.

1483
01:59:01,710 --> 01:59:02,830
Okay, I can do that.

1484
01:59:03,730 --> 01:59:10,810
I think everybody is aware that Replant has closed all of their recycling facilities in the state.

1485
01:59:10,810 --> 01:59:17,210
and it's having a really significant impact on, I think, all of us, all our jurisdictions.

1486
01:59:17,990 --> 01:59:24,190
I'd like Skag to take a look at where we ought to be going.

1487
01:59:24,350 --> 01:59:28,250
It strikes me that kind of falls squarely within the preview of this committee.

1488
01:59:28,570 --> 01:59:30,610
If you think it goes somewhere else, that's okay.

1489
01:59:31,170 --> 01:59:32,830
But I think we should take a look at it.

1490
01:59:34,230 --> 01:59:38,670
Not only is it more difficult to recycle things, so more stuff is going to landfills

1491
01:59:38,670 --> 01:59:45,970
and getting just thrown on the ground, but for those few that still exist, they are getting

1492
01:59:45,970 --> 01:59:52,250
much more traffic, which is having a negative impact on the location where they sit and

1493
01:59:52,250 --> 01:59:56,290
to people who want to recycle things. Unfortunately, we've

1494
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:09,920
Recycling centers draw an element that can be a problem, and when that gets concentrated

1495
02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:14,000
in one spot, that just makes the issue bigger.

1496
02:00:14,140 --> 02:00:21,500
I think that's a great suggestion. And perhaps we also had one presentation a while ago about

1497
02:00:21,500 --> 02:00:28,000
over-packaging. You know, that might be two subjects to talk about in one meeting. And

1498
02:00:28,000 --> 02:00:28,600
Diana?

1499
02:00:28,600 --> 02:00:52,920
Thank you. I'd like to take that a step further and explore as part of the presentation the feasibility of SCAG actually sponsoring legislation to conform to the practice in other states where they have a far more successful recycling effort because they require retailers to take back the various beverage containers.

1500
02:00:52,920 --> 02:00:55,980
Okay. Sure, Greig will do it for us.

1501
02:00:57,120 --> 02:01:01,460
Okay, with that, I think we're ready to adjourn.

1502
02:01:01,620 --> 02:01:02,820
Nothing else on the agenda?

1503
02:01:03,060 --> 02:01:04,000
We'll go ahead and adjourn.

1504
02:01:04,060 --> 02:01:04,520
Thank you all.

1505
02:01:04,660 --> 02:01:05,300
Great presentations.

1506
02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:06,200
Yeah.

1507
02:01:14,380 --> 02:01:14,880
To the public.