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The meeting will now begin.

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Well, good morning, everyone.

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Today is Thursday, June 5th.

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We call the meeting to order.

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Can you please have the Honorable Larry McAllen lead us in the Pledge of Allegiance.

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Thank you.

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Please join me as we salute the flag that represents our Republic.

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I pledge allegiance through the flag of the United States of America and through the Republic

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for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you.

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Clerk, do we have a quorum?

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We show a quorum, Mr. Chair.

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Thank you.

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At this time, do we have any public comments received prior to the meeting or anything like that?

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Good morning, Mr. Chair. No such comments were received.

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Thank you.

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I want to open public comment period of the meeting.

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Have we received any written public comments?

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No.

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Do we have any members of the public to wish to speak right now?

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Okay.

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Seeing none, no raised hands.

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Now, we'll now close the public comment period for matters not listed on the agenda and move

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on to the action items.

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Right?

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This is the review.

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Review and prioritize agenda items.

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None are expected at this time.

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Do we have any?

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Moving?

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Good.

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All right.

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Now, we'll move on to our consent calendar.

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Do any of our members wish to speak on this item?

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Move consent.

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Motion to second.

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Record.

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We have a first and a second to approve the consent calendar.

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Agenda item one and receive and file items two through six.

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We have a second.

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And could I please get a roll call vote?

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Seal, I'll hear.

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Papiara, Mescua.

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Adele and Trotty Stadler.

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Phil Basera.

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Yes.

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Brian Bayless.

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Yes.

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Catherine Barker.

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Brian Berkson. Yes. Daniel Brothman.

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Jeanette Burns.

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Denise Delgado.

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Jonathan Demetru.

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John Dutre. Bubba Fish.

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John Gabbard. Yes. Jason Gibbs. William Goh.

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Hurt Hagman.

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Jan Harnick. Yes. Laura Hernandez.

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Lauren Hughes Leslie. Yes.

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Heather Hut. Mike Judge.

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Yes.

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Lyman.

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Linda Krupa. Yes. Andrew Laura. Yes. Carlos Leon.

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John?

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Richard Lewis?

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Richard Loa?

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Clint Lowermore?

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Hi.

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Got it.

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Steve Monos?

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Yes.

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Ray Marquez?

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Yes.

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Larry McCallan?

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Yes.

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Marcia McLean?

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Yes.

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Tim McOsker?

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Yes.

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Linda Molina?

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Yes.

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Carol Moore.

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Aye.

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Juan Munoz Kevada.

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Aye. Ara Najarian.

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Aye.

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Frank Navarro.

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Yes.

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Nikki Perez.

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David Reddy.

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Gil Vrbalar.

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Yes.

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Ed Rhys.

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Crystal Ruiz.

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Holly Salay.

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Tim Sandoval.

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Zach Schwenk.

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Emma Sharif.

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Assam Shaikh.

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Yes.

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Thank you. Got it.

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Marty Siminoff.

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Jeremy Smith.

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Ward Smith.

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Hilda Salise.

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Wes Speak.

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Bye.

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Karen Spiegel.

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Cynthia Sturkwist.

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Butch Twiney.

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Yes.

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Steve Ty.

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Bill Uphoff.

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Scott Boyce.

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Donald Wagner.

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Colleen Wallace.

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Alan Wopner.

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Thomas Wong.

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San Wu.

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Abstain.

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Mr. Chair, the motion passes 37 in favor with one abstention.

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Thank you. For our informational items, we're going to take them, introduce them together.

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So right now at this time, I'm going to ask if there are any public comments or any public people in the public that wish to speak on these two items prior to introduction.

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Mr. Chairman, this is Fred Jung. Please excuse the interruption. I just wanted to record my yes vote, sir. Thank you.

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Got it. Okay. Thank you.

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Are there any public?

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All right.

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Now I'm going to call on Annie Nam to introduce the two informational item speakers.

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Good morning, Chair and members of the Transportation Committee.

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At today's TC, we have two presenters who will provide an update on high-speed rail projects

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in Southern California.

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So each project represents a significant initiative aimed at transforming

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inter-regional mobility across the region and the state.

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First, we have LaDonna DiCameo with the Southern California who is the Southern California Regional Director for the California High Speed Rail Authority.

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Ms. DiCameo plays a leading role in advancing the high speed rail program through Southern California.

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The Los Angeles to Anaheim segment will play a key role in closing the statewide connection.

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And today's presentation will essentially provide an overview of the recent progress for the entire corridor and what's ahead for the Southern California segment.

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I'd also like to add that we'll also hear from Asha Jones, Vice President of Government Affairs for Brightline West.

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Brightland West is a privately-led high-speed rail project that will connect Las Vegas to Southern California.

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The corridor will run along the I-15 and include stations in Las Vegas, Victor Valley and Rancho Cucamonga.

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The Rancho Cucamonga station will link directly with MetroLink, giving riders access to Los Angeles as well.

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We'd like to thank both Ms. DiCameo and Ms. Jones for being with us today and look forward to their presentations.

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So at this time, I'd like to invite Ms. DiCamino to provide her presentation.

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Which?

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Off because everybody's pushed it?

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That would be my hint.

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Thank you for having me.

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I'm LaDonna DiCamillo.

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I'm Regional Director for the California High Speed Rail Southern California Region.

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We're going to do a quick overview today of the project and where it's at as a whole.

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And then a deeper dive into our Los Angeles to Anaheim project section,

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and which is in the environmental study process.

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So excited to be here.

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Thank you for the opportunity.

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Much appreciated, allowing me to give you this update.

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Reminder, we are a state organization,

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so you're gonna see some differences

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between myself and Brightline.

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As a state organization, kind of a different approach.

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So you'll see some distinctions,

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but we are a part of the CalSTA, California Transportation Agency, and under the leadership

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of the governor. I like to remind people about our mission. And we were created really by the

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voters in 2008 by Proposition 1A to connect San Francisco with Los Angeles, Anaheim.

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We have identified a phase one that's shown here in blue. It's 494 miles.

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And we are to make that trip time, particularly trip time between San Francisco and Los Angeles Union Station in less than three hours.

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So that has been part of our mission and our drive to achieve high speeds.

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And then we've also identified some potential phase two which are shown in yellow.

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We will be at speeds or we are anticipating being at speeds over 200 miles an hour.

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And we are limited in how many stations we can have because the voters wanted to make sure that we're competitive

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competitive and we don't end up stopping so many times that we're not providing that quality service.

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Where we are today, we are under construction in the Central Valley on 119 miles.

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It is what we refer to as a test track.

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There aren't test tracks in the United States for these speeds over 220 miles an hour.

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So we've designated this area shown here in yellow in the Central Valley.

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we've done a substantial amount of completion for the guideway.

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And that is what you'll see if you're driving up to 99,

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you'll see a lot of that guideway in place.

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I will kind of jump ahead of some of the questions.

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If you hear we haven't laid track, that is true,

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because that's going to be the last thing you lay,

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is when you come in and when you have your entire guideway,

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you purchase the track and lay it all at once.

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We're doing advanced design to connect Bakersfield with

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So that's the 171 miles that we feel will be our initial operating segment.

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We've environmentally cleared San Francisco to Los Angeles.

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So 463 miles has been environmentally cleared.

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And we're advancing what we refer to as the bookends.

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Proposition 1A set aside some funds for Northern California,

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where we've worked with Caltrain to electrify their corridor.

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They put it in place, and they saw a substantial increase in ridership there.

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And then in the Southern California, I don't think I have a slide on this, but we invested with Metro, $70 million in

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Rose Grands Marquardt in Santa Fe Springs, which I believe is substantially complete.

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It's open and operating, so we're proud to partner with Metro on that, as well as on Union Station.

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And we are working with Metro now for improvements on Union Station to make that an overpass there.

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And then we're designing stations in the Central Valley.

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We're actually designing them in phases.

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to be installed in phases so that as our ridership grows, we will grow with it at our station areas.

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We're under new leadership under CEO Ian Chaudhry. He's bringing more of the private sector thought

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process into the planning that we're doing. So he set out some goals to build smarter

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and faster and more economical and in more in phases than maybe what we had thought

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what we would do initially in the Central Valley so we can talk a little bit more about

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what that means.

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But basically trying to make our dollars go further, provide for more riders.

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It may not initially be the high speeds, but it allows us to phase in that service

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and provide more service to everyone by taking a different approach.

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We partner with Brightline West, who you're going to hear from, also in the High

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High Desert Corridor, which you, the High Desert Corridor, you can see on this map how interconnected we will all be.

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And this will be a southwest regional high speed rail network connecting San Francisco ultimately.

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Our vision is with Las Vegas and Southern California.

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I'm going to dive in just a little bit more into the Palmdale, into the Southern California area.

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area. We see Palmdale as a hub, particularly for initial phases of our operations, connecting

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what we're planning to do with what Brightline has planned via Victor Valley. That High Desert

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Corridor, the dotted blue line is High Desert Corridor Joint Powers Authority. We're actually

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helping them advance their final environmental work. But we have quite a partnership with

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the city of Palmdale and the joint powers authority and we see this as really our first

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step for connecting Southern California via what Brightline has proposed.

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Since we started work, we've created over 15,000 construction jobs.

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We have a very aggressive business, small business engagement program, so we're always

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looking for ways to engage more with small businesses.

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In fact, most of our employees come from the communities in Central Valley.

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We're an important provider of jobs in that area for both small businesses and for employees.

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And then we're leading on sustainability and trying to make our operation as sustainable

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as possible with a commitment to use all renewable electric energy for our operations.

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Everyone always asks where our funding comes from.

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So this is a good slide to summarize that.

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We're still almost 80% state funded.

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We do have some federal funding grants that have been allocated over the years.

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The first grant, the error grant was really for the environmental work,

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which has been completed.

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And then more recently with the infrastructure investment award,

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which we actually haven't started spending yet.

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And that was, if you saw any news yesterday, you probably saw it.

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So Secretary Duffy is taking a look at this grant.

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We disagree with the fact that he says that we're not done yet.

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And as I said, of course, we haven't laid rail because we haven't finished all the guideway.

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So I'm just going to address that question now because I know somebody's going to have it.

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But we do have 30 days to respond.

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We disagree with their assessment of the progress we made.

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We started in the Central Valley.

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We're doing what we can with the funding that was initially allocated.

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And we're trying to figure out ways and looking at all sorts of ways

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to really stretch that dollar and make our previous investment more productive.

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So we will be working with the administration, but we disagree with what they have to say.

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We have project update report coming out in July, which will provide additional information on schedule and approach.

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Okay, moving more to Southern California, where I oversee what's happening in Southern California.

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We're divided for environmental work into four project sections.

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Bakersfield to Los Angeles, environmentally complete.

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And then we're deep diving today into Los Angeles to Anaheim.

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Just a highlight.

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Bakersfield to Palmdale was environmentally cleared in 2022.

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Palmdale to Burbank, environmentally cleared in 2024.

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We are looking for funding for that Bakersfield to Palmdale work

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so that we can connect into Palmdale to make that connection,

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like I mentioned into Brightline. And then we've adopted a preferred alternative for our approach

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to Los Angeles to Anaheim. So I'm going to spend the rest of the time on Los Angeles to Anaheim,

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which is probably relevant to many of you. We have a preferred alternative, which we referred

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to as our shared passenger track alternative. This is the corridor you see in this map.

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There are actually two build alternatives and the only difference between the two build alternatives

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is the location of a proposed locomotive light maintenance facility. We have one proposed at

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26th Street in Vernon and then we have another proposed at 15th Street. We like the 26th Street

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one a little bit better. We were already planning to acquire some of that property. It's just south,

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for those of you who know BNSS Hobart Yard, it's just a little bit south of that yard and

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a lot of that property we're planning to acquire anyway. It gives us kind of a double-ended

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operation. We do not plan to have a high-speed rail stop or station in this corridor. At

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least it's not in our preferred alternative. We took a look at this and we thought an

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additional platform would be a redundant cost and expense given that Metrolink and Amtrak

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LoSan all serve the same corridor.

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If one of our passengers really needs to connect with us, they can take a train to Union

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Station or take a train to Arctic.

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We are carrying forward two designs just in case.

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So we were taking forward a design option at Norwalk Santa Fe Springs where we would

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change the existing MetroLink station to add that platform for us or a design option at

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Fullerton.

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But our preferred alternative is no station or stop.

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We call it the shared passenger track alternative because this is a BNSF corridor.

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It's currently a three main track corridor.

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It's used by MetroLink, LOSAN, and other passenger carriers currently.

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We're going to add one, we're proposing to add one main track and allow this to be kind

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of a 2 plus 2 operation.

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So as you can see in the graphic, two tracks will be dedicated freight and two tracks

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predominantly passenger.

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But from time to time, our modeling shows it's necessary to have freight potentially

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run under that can't neary.

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So our modeling shows that we can allow this.

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What this system does is allow for directional traffic for rail operations.

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So all the freight trains are going the same direction on this track,

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the same direction on that track.

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It really opens up a more efficient corridor.

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So it allows for our two trains per hour per direction,

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but also some potential growth in the future for the other passenger carriers that serve that corridor.

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Real quick, I'll run through these.

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I've got a graphic that shows some of the improvements we're making throughout the corridor,

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and we're going to deep dive into the commerce area where we will have a flyover.

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Currently, when freight needs, when BNSF needs to go into their facility in commerce, which is shown here in green, the freight tracks are shown in orange, they actually have to cross over the passenger tracks.

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What we want to do is apply over or some sort of viaduct, whatever you want to call the bridge, so that BNSF can serve underneath their yard without that conflict.

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And that's one way that we will be creating additional capacity in the corridor.

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We'll have to relocate that commerce station that's currently there just about a mile further to the east.

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Back to the main corridor, taking a dive into the central part of the corridor.

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You can see BNSF has some facilities on the south side in green.

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So we're going to move the BNSF back to the south side of that corridor with a flyover viaduct in the

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Norwalk Santa Fe Springs area.

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And then down on the bottom right is the Fullerton airport.

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So in order to take our cantonary out of the air path way, we will be down in a trench going back under the

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BNSF tracks within that corridor.

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Then as we go into the Fullerton area, passenger trains will be on the south side of the corridor

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so that the passenger trains can serve into Arctic and further south without that conflict

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with freight rail.

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So I know I went through that kind of path, but really we're just trying to remove the

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conflicts within the corridor so that it allows for additional capacity for future

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passenger operations. I mentioned the light maintenance facility. It's just like the word

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sounds. It's light maintenance. We're not going to do heavy maintenance at this particular location,

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but it will be a place where we can inspect our equipment and service, do minor service,

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and restocking of the equipment at that facility. This is the 26th Street option,

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So you can see via map for anyone who's in this area.

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26th Street, this is the BNSF Hobart Yard.

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We will be acquiring the properties that are in gray.

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And we had already planned to acquire some of those properties anyway, as I said.

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So this is the location that we would put the light maintenance facility there.

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Light maintenance facility option at 15th Street.

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You can see these are dead end tracks, which operationally is harder for trains to do.

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So it is not our preferred alternative, but we wanted to take a look at options.

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Grade separations, the corridor between Union Station and Fullerton will be for us grade separated,

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Which means that we won't be, there won't be, traffic that is going cars don't have to stop for our trains.

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We will be grade separating that corridor, the one with the four main tracks.

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When we turn south to go toward Arctic, it's a two-track system.

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There aren't very many freight trains on that.

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So we're planning to leave that system pretty much as it is.

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That would be in the city of Anaheim, and we've been working with Anaheim.

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But we felt that grade separating was going to create more disruption than was needed for our two trains per hour per direction.

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And they'll be pretty quick trains. They're not long freight trains.

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So we're leaving that pretty much as is with the exception.

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And then this one shows the map of with the exception of a couple crossings that we needed for our infrastructure.

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So as we get toward Arctic, I don't know if you can see my cursor, Arctic, which is the Anaheim Transit Center down here at the bottom.

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We're going to put some layover tracks so that we can get our trains out of the way of everybody else.

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And that will necessitate some improvements of grade separations there.

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But for the most part, we do have plans to grade separate that corner.

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Where are we?

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major milestones for LA to A. This is the last section that we have

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environmental to do. Our draft is coming out later this year. We're currently

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trending toward late October, possibly early November, but we will

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get it out when we're in Africa this year. So we'll be looking for folks to

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comment on that and then we'll hopefully have our final environmental

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document out sometime spring, I would say mid-2026, and then to our board for a final determination later that year.

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That's it for me, and I wanted to leave time for questions, so I apologize for talking fast.

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All right.

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Supervisor Spiegel, how are you?

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I sit on several of us here on the MetroLink board, and we have quite a bit of challenges with just the trains that are going now.

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And I have to be honest, we're kind of treated like we're the bottom of the list as far as priorities.

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And we've had more delays this past few months than we've had in a very long time.

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I'm nervous about this, and I'm sure that this will become a priority over MetroLink again.

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So I'm just throwing it out there that we're going to be watching.

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BNSF and UP certainly are not, I mean, they're priorities in their minds, and I get it.

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They own the country.

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That's what we were built by them.

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So I get that except for we have to be friendly on this.

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And I'm hoping that the relationship will continue to include metric and conversations and updates.

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And it just gets a little nerve-wracking when you add another.

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How much of new track are you talking? Or is this going to be all new track?

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Or is this going to be a lot of overlapping?

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And I went through the improvements really quickly, but adding that fourth main track and allowing that directional flow is a game changer.

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We're taking out track that BNSF uses for storage or staging of trains.

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So BNSF will hold trains which of course blocks your corridor, clog you up.

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So we're taking out those areas and replacing them at the Hobart yard,

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which is why you saw so much property acquired there.

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The model shows and it would have to be a perfect

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And we have to continue to be in constant communication because it's all the devils and the details.

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But we believe that these infrastructure improvements, the flyovers and so forth,

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removing all those conflicts will not only accommodate R2 per hour per direction,

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but will also help with Metrolinx congestion and allow for growth.

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But those will be complex conversations as we get funding and move forward.

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And in fact, we're working very closely with MetroLink on the Fullerton improvements.

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We're trying to mirror what they propose because that's one of their first priorities.

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So we are working very closely with MetroLink.

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And the second part to that is we have been, in recent months, a lot of strikes.

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Do you see that being a challenge for your line?

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Because that just throws everything in keeps.

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I look forward to having that problem.

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No, I just, I, we, no.

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Well, strikes do you mean as operations?

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No, no.

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No, what am I missing?

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Person on the tracks.

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Oh.

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In train language.

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Is a labor, I was thinking a labor strike.

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That's why I say I look forward to that.

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In train talk it means you're hitting something or somebody.

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Yeah, no, I'm sorry.

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Sorry if anybody else can hear that.

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I'm like labor strike Larry help me. I'm sorry. I'm taking labor strike. No

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Yeah vehicle vehicle strikes

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I you know I many of you know me from my 30 years with BNSF and it's always a challenge

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It's the importance of the grade separation of the main corridor and why will be be core

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Grade separated in that corridor because it really removes that that possibility. So we've been having an upswing

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I mean, I know it goes in waves, but I'm just – now we've got another – hey, I look

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forward to it.

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I mean, that'd be around.

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No, I'm sorry.

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I meant labor strikes.

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I thought labor strikes.

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There is one.

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That's planned.

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Anyway.

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No, no, no.

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We want a safe operation, no question.

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Thank you.

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Next, we'll go over to Commissioner McLean.

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Hi.

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Yes.

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Hi there.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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You know, I have been a huge advocate of commuter rail,

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metrolink, and improving the ride for commuters.

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You mentioned that the voters voted for this.

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Well, I was around in 2008.

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The voters actually voted for a $30 billion project,

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and it is now well over $100 billion project.

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So I think you can understand the skepticism of some people about how this just continues to go

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on and on and on and money is poured into it but we don't see a rainbow at the end,

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you know, a pot of gold at the end. So anyway for all the project managers that have come along,

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I feel sorry for you sometimes because you're faced with trying to tell people that this

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is wonderful and it's going to happen.

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Maybe it will someday, who knows.

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But I just wanted to mention that we need to focus more on commuter rail.

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And I know that there has been some funding from High Speed Rail in order to double

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track some along the Antelope Valley line and it's running to kind of a shortfall right

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now.

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And just wonder if there's any more help from High Speed Rail to help to get that done.

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That's not only for the Antelope Valley line folks but it goes from Palmdale, Lancaster,

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all through the San Fernando Valley and into Union Station.

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So I'm hoping some attention can be paid to that as well.

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Especially a statement, but my recollection of 2008 was different.

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I was a voter too.

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And I was led to believe this was about 20% of the funding that was being allocated.

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Admittedly, the prices have gone up for, we've made mistakes.

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So we don't need to argue that.

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But what I would say is that we were never fully funded.

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We were never granted a stream of funding to build off of, which I think has been one

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of the challenges for the project of being able to plan really well.

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We are in the Governor's Papan Invest Program for a guaranteed billion dollars a year over

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the course of the program, which really allows us to leverage those funds better

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because we know what's coming in and there aren't restrictions on it.

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Our new CEO, I will say, is really trying to figure out how to stretch that dollar more so that we can serve more of Californians.

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With respect to the Antelope Valley, we don't have money to help.

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If I could say we have funds to help, we're thinking with that Southwest High Speed Corridor Network that Amtrak is going to be a big partner in serving Palmdale.

480
00:35:30,110 --> 00:35:34,050
And that's one of the reasons why we're focused on getting to Palmdale.

481
00:35:34,250 --> 00:35:35,990
So then we rely on the Amtrak service.

482
00:35:36,190 --> 00:35:37,610
We can all be partners.

483
00:35:38,250 --> 00:35:39,630
Rising tide floats all boats.

484
00:35:39,930 --> 00:35:41,170
So I agree.

485
00:35:41,470 --> 00:35:45,590
Let's build up Metrolinx Analog Valley Service so that it's reliable.

486
00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:51,030
And we can move forward as partners of them serving us toward Palmdale

487
00:35:51,030 --> 00:35:52,710
and making the system interconnected.

488
00:35:54,130 --> 00:35:57,770
Well, the governor's budget isn't exactly balanced at this point either.

489
00:35:59,970 --> 00:36:00,610
Yes.

490
00:36:00,790 --> 00:36:01,110
Commissioner Kelly?

491
00:36:02,210 --> 00:36:02,650
Trisha Kelly?

492
00:36:03,490 --> 00:36:03,670
Yes.

493
00:36:03,970 --> 00:36:04,390
Thank you.

494
00:36:05,390 --> 00:36:07,270
I noticed that…

495
00:36:07,270 --> 00:36:07,870
You are?

496
00:36:08,890 --> 00:36:16,590
And notice you say that there are 463 miles out of the 494 that have been environmentally

497
00:36:16,590 --> 00:36:17,190
cleared.

498
00:36:17,590 --> 00:36:24,050
So that, where are the 31 miles and are there, that have not been environmentally

499
00:36:24,050 --> 00:36:28,350
cleared in, are there going to be significant challenges to them?

500
00:36:29,010 --> 00:36:31,650
It's 30 miles from Los Angeles to Anaheim.

501
00:36:32,050 --> 00:36:36,990
The extra mile gets lost in rounding errors, but that's that last segment that I talked

502
00:36:36,990 --> 00:36:38,630
about from Los Angeles to Anaheim.

503
00:36:38,830 --> 00:36:41,190
That's the last one we have to environmentally clear.

504
00:36:41,690 --> 00:36:46,150
And I get most excited about it because, to the MetroLink question, MetroLink can

505
00:36:46,150 --> 00:36:50,670
actually start building some of these, and we can partner with them to advance those

506
00:36:51,310 --> 00:36:54,630
long before high-speed rail gets into that corridor.

507
00:36:55,590 --> 00:36:58,690
So you don't see significant environmental concerns?

508
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,220
I don't. I don't. No.

509
00:37:04,700 --> 00:37:09,240
The challenge is going to be all the partners to the supervisor's questions.

510
00:37:09,460 --> 00:37:12,560
It's all the partners who currently use it, who have an interest in it,

511
00:37:12,660 --> 00:37:14,860
and it's working with everybody to make it work.

512
00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:16,820
That's, I think, see as the biggest challenge.

513
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,100
Okay. Zeal, here.

514
00:37:27,970 --> 00:37:31,370
Forgive me if this is common knowledge. I just joined the committee.

515
00:37:31,930 --> 00:37:36,230
I wanted to know, is there any exclusivity when it comes to contracting services?

516
00:37:36,630 --> 00:37:40,810
Like, is it, you know, companies from California or national or is it international?

517
00:37:41,490 --> 00:37:50,470
And if so, if we're open, does, at any given point, does that hinder or kind of help the budgeting process?

518
00:37:50,470 --> 00:37:56,870
We have a Buy America policy. I'll admit I'm not in the procurement group.

519
00:37:57,270 --> 00:38:04,390
And I know that it has been a bit of a challenge to limit yourself to Buy Only America for certain types of products.

520
00:38:04,970 --> 00:38:13,170
But for the most part, we are very focused on trying to buy what's here in the states, engaging small businesses that are local,

521
00:38:13,170 --> 00:38:21,290
putting requirements to the extent that we can in our contracts with our prime contractors to keep local people engaged.

522
00:38:22,110 --> 00:38:30,770
We have a community benefits agreement with building trades to try to utilize local folks as we build.

523
00:38:31,210 --> 00:38:33,850
So we do try to – does that help answer your question?

524
00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:34,790
Yeah.

525
00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:42,640
Would you want it to be a certain way rather than what it's now?

526
00:38:43,660 --> 00:38:51,940
For like the Buy America, only for certain equipment we may have to, because you can't just go buy a train set.

527
00:38:52,540 --> 00:38:58,720
It has to be built and it built to certain specifications, which we're still working on.

528
00:38:59,340 --> 00:39:05,620
The CEO is looking at maybe making some changes to our specifications, but you have to order it and have somebody build it.

529
00:39:05,980 --> 00:39:10,140
And not all of it necessarily can be built in the United States.

530
00:39:10,140 --> 00:39:16,980
So when we get to that point, we may need to look for some variances, but I'm not close enough to

531
00:39:16,980 --> 00:39:22,420
that activity to know for sure. Thank you. All right. Next to be Commissioner Wu.

532
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:32,980
Thank you. A follow-up question on the finance of this project. On the funding source, you listed

533
00:39:32,980 --> 00:39:40,460
21.9 billion from state funding and a 6.8 billion from federal funding. They add up to

534
00:39:40,460 --> 00:39:50,260
$28.7 billion, as of today, the initial operating segment is going to cost more than that.

535
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:59,220
So the total cost is going to cost another $100 billion to complete the whole project

536
00:39:59,220 --> 00:40:01,280
from San Francisco to Los Angeles.

537
00:40:01,780 --> 00:40:09,100
Even with the cap and the trade extension, you only get a billion per year.

538
00:40:09,100 --> 00:40:14,620
So what is in planning to do that gap?

539
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:28,080
Well, and that's what the new CEO, because he's private sector, is looking for ways to leverage private dollars, private investment, development in and around our stations.

540
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:36,860
You know, can we leverage some of the property that we've already acquired to make some funds back on that?

541
00:40:36,860 --> 00:40:43,500
we're looking at every opportunity. We're not unaware of the shortfall. I mean we're aware of

542
00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:48,960
the shortfall and trying to get creative to finish what's been started and make that productive,

543
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:55,380
but also to the Gilroy, the current focus is connecting Gilroy and Palmdale because that's

544
00:40:55,380 --> 00:41:01,780
where we get to our major population bases. So even if, you know, we're going to finish

545
00:41:01,780 --> 00:41:06,280
what's already under construction, but new construction may look different so that we

546
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:13,480
can phase it, still get to those major population bases, still connect with Brightline, and then

547
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:21,480
phase in more of the vision of what was in Proposition 1A with the double track and the

548
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,100
full high speed 220 miles per hour and so forth.

549
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:31,400
Do you own any land or property nearby your station so you can do some Mexican development?

550
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:38,500
We do. We have a whole planning team that has worked with communities with the stations all around.

551
00:41:38,700 --> 00:41:41,740
We do own some property in the Fresno area.

552
00:41:42,420 --> 00:41:49,560
If I had a magic wand, I would go back and put some business development zones around those so that we could work a little bit more.

553
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:57,480
But I understand that controversial because – but we do own some property there and we're looking at opportunities to leverage that property,

554
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,760
not just for ridership but also from the financial side.

555
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:01,640
Thank you.

556
00:42:02,580 --> 00:42:03,500
Mr. Dutre?

557
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:08,440
Yeah, on the Bakersfield to Palmdale where Los Angeles is zero,

558
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:13,860
a scheduled construction commencement period of time or decade or...

559
00:42:13,860 --> 00:42:15,700
We don't. We gave up on the decades.

560
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,940
We gave up on the...

561
00:42:17,940 --> 00:42:22,420
Well, there may be something in the project update report in July,

562
00:42:22,420 --> 00:42:26,280
but for the most part, we have not put out schedules

563
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:28,260
because we don't have that consistent funding.

564
00:42:28,260 --> 00:42:32,120
Right. So we got people thinking, oh, it's going to be built in 2033.

565
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:37,280
Well, that was if funding was not a problem or an issue. Yeah.

566
00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:40,500
And on the phase two from L.A. to Inland Empire down to say,

567
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,260
I'm assuming there's no planning right now.

568
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,200
There's no environmental. That's just way out there.

569
00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:47,500
I've been with the authority a little over four years.

570
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,780
I haven't touched it. Yeah.

571
00:42:51,580 --> 00:42:52,700
Commissioner Moore online.

572
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:55,380
Carol Moore.

573
00:42:59,020 --> 00:42:59,480
You have to unmute.

574
00:42:59,480 --> 00:42:59,540
Thank you.

575
00:43:03,690 --> 00:43:05,630
Am I unmuted?

576
00:43:07,130 --> 00:43:07,670
There you go.

577
00:43:07,950 --> 00:43:08,590
Thank you.

578
00:43:09,110 --> 00:43:10,290
I didn't think it was me.

579
00:43:10,830 --> 00:43:16,570
I too voted, and as I recall, if I correct me here, I have a question.

580
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:22,130
I think it was very specific as to the technology that was to be used for the train.

581
00:43:23,050 --> 00:43:31,730
17 years later, technology has really changed, and it's my understanding that the technology we voted for is now not very current,

582
00:43:31,730 --> 00:43:33,250
And we're kind of stuck with that.

583
00:43:33,330 --> 00:43:35,130
Could you respond to that?

584
00:43:35,330 --> 00:43:35,790
Thank you.

585
00:43:37,310 --> 00:43:39,350
All the foreign systems are electric.

586
00:43:39,670 --> 00:43:40,850
And we're planning to be electric.

587
00:43:42,090 --> 00:43:45,970
I know that some maglev people want to do maglev,

588
00:43:46,390 --> 00:43:48,530
but it's a vision.

589
00:43:49,370 --> 00:43:54,590
We haven't seen it put into any system.

590
00:43:55,530 --> 00:43:57,750
What we're planning is electric,

591
00:43:57,750 --> 00:44:00,190
which gets us over 200 miles an hour.

592
00:44:01,770 --> 00:44:07,350
I would say that we're state of the art and that we're not obsolete technology.

593
00:44:07,650 --> 00:44:11,270
We're consistent with what is being done across the...

594
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:13,010
And that's the train itself.

595
00:44:14,730 --> 00:44:16,590
I'm speaking of the trains themselves,

596
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:20,390
not the technology of how the trains might be transported.

597
00:44:21,170 --> 00:44:21,690
Thank you.

598
00:44:22,350 --> 00:44:25,750
Yeah, the train itself hasn't been built because...

599
00:44:25,750 --> 00:44:31,850
under the impression that the technology that was specified was very specific and you're

600
00:44:31,850 --> 00:44:32,870
saying that isn't true?

601
00:44:35,060 --> 00:44:42,340
Not to my knowledge, but the equipment itself has not been procured, so we have not started

602
00:44:42,340 --> 00:44:42,960
building it.

603
00:44:47,850 --> 00:44:52,750
If I can make a commentary and this is Ladonna speaking, I do think Prop 1A locked us

604
00:44:52,750 --> 00:44:59,450
in to some things that have in retrospect locked us in to maybe too much and maybe

605
00:44:59,450 --> 00:44:59,970
Maybe we need some...

606
00:45:00,860 --> 00:45:06,840
But we're taking a look at it from a phasing kind of approach rather than a whole scale change.

607
00:45:07,460 --> 00:45:13,480
But if you think about the vision of Prop 1A of 200 miles an hour, under three hours,

608
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:21,520
you know, maybe there's some ways to do some phasing so that we achieve that over time,

609
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:29,160
but we tried to do it all at once. And that's what lifted costs and made it really complicated.

610
00:45:31,260 --> 00:45:31,740
Yeah.

611
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:33,100
Okay.

612
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,700
We're going to go on to Colleen Wallace, and after this comment, we're going to go to

613
00:45:37,700 --> 00:45:42,500
on to the next presentation, and we'll have information of our present presenter for you

614
00:45:42,500 --> 00:45:44,080
to ask her questions afterwards.

615
00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:45,020
Hi.

616
00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:46,000
Hello.

617
00:45:46,380 --> 00:45:47,140
My name is Colleen.

618
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:51,440
On the news this morning, they were talking about this.

619
00:45:52,500 --> 00:45:58,760
And if they pull the funding, if they don't give us the funding, then we won't be

620
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,500
able to finish this project. Am I correct?

621
00:46:04,420 --> 00:46:07,380
I don't have a perfect crystal ball, but let me just say

622
00:46:07,380 --> 00:46:14,060
we've been here before. The first administration threatened to pull funding, some back and forth.

623
00:46:15,900 --> 00:46:20,360
Now that was before the more recent three billion that was awarded by the last administration.

624
00:46:21,420 --> 00:46:28,480
I think we've made good progress and we need that continual funding, but the state has

625
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,720
still already put approximately 80 percent of what we've done.

626
00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:35,840
We haven't really even started spending this last 3 billion.

627
00:46:37,500 --> 00:46:42,500
The administration's come and go and we're going to push back because we think we're

628
00:46:42,500 --> 00:46:43,500
still making good progress.

629
00:46:43,820 --> 00:46:50,280
Like I said, we're going to try to show how we can stretch the dollar, leverage it,

630
00:46:50,620 --> 00:46:51,440
private investment.

631
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,880
Hopefully that will be appealing to the new administration.

632
00:46:54,880 --> 00:47:06,700
But like I say, my crystal ball isn't perfect, but these mega projects are not easy, and they do require kind of that constant drumbeat to keep things moving.

633
00:47:07,740 --> 00:47:20,180
And I see us continuing at least to finish that Bakersfield to Merced and then maybe tie in with something conventional until additional funds can get us to that last step.

634
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:22,720
Okay. Thank you for having me.

635
00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:23,540
Much appreciated.

636
00:47:24,060 --> 00:47:24,920
Thank you for the presentation.

637
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,880
Moving on to the Brightline West update.

638
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:40,940
Hello.

639
00:47:42,100 --> 00:47:43,120
Good morning.

640
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:44,540
My name is Asha Jones.

641
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,220
I'm the Vice President of Corporate Affairs for Brightline West.

642
00:47:47,580 --> 00:47:51,840
That includes government affairs, community affairs, and communications.

643
00:47:52,460 --> 00:47:53,440
So just glad to be here.

644
00:47:53,980 --> 00:47:58,680
Most recently joined you all in Palm Desert for the 60th anniversary.

645
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:04,100
So got to hear a lot in the infrastructure and what's going on.

646
00:48:04,100 --> 00:48:08,220
So, excuse the date on that slide. We've been doing a lot of presentations.

647
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:14,500
All right, have a quick video. I think it will play.

648
00:48:17,180 --> 00:48:24,460
Introducing Brightline West, America's first true high-speed train that's ushering in a new era of modern travel.

649
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:29,980
From the lights of Las Vegas to the beaches of Southern California,

650
00:48:30,980 --> 00:48:36,480
Brightline West will connect two of the world's most iconic destinations in just two hours

651
00:48:37,110 --> 00:48:39,440
by soaring at 200 miles per hour.

652
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:45,720
Brightline Zero Mission, all electric trains will be the greenest form of transportation

653
00:48:46,310 --> 00:48:52,020
in the world and will be made right here in the USA with American labor.

654
00:48:52,900 --> 00:48:58,540
From beautiful stations with bright lounges and premium amenities to an exceptional onboard

655
00:48:58,540 --> 00:49:04,860
experience with all the extras. Brightline West will offer a convenient and comfortable way to work,

656
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:12,080
relax, and play. Welcome to the ride reimagined. Welcome to Brightline West.

657
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:22,620
Thank you. I will say I am the daughter of a grand daughter. Introducing Brightline West.

658
00:49:22,860 --> 00:49:27,420
Everybody says they won't be before you long. And then they do that. Do the opposite. But

659
00:49:27,420 --> 00:49:31,940
Our goal at our company is to connect city pairs that are too long to drive and too short to fly.

660
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:36,020
I grew up in Las Vegas, so I've gone back and forth to California my whole life.

661
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:41,460
My mother lives in Orange County, and she wanted me to squeeze in a hug at the airport this morning.

662
00:49:41,540 --> 00:49:43,080
And I was like, Mom, there is no time.

663
00:49:43,460 --> 00:49:44,460
Got to get on the highway.

664
00:49:44,700 --> 00:49:49,340
But what we've done, and I'll go into this, but to the right in the yellow is our Florida line.

665
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,620
Now in Florida, we're on a freight line, so it is not high-speed rail.

666
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:55,700
But that was our initial rail that came about.

667
00:49:55,700 --> 00:49:59,820
To the left in the green is the line I'll talk about today, which is Bright Line West.

668
00:50:00,620 --> 00:50:05,680
And then the orange segments that you see are just potential, like what else could be

669
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,400
possible when you look at city pairs that are too long to drive and too short to fly.

670
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,540
So our first passenger system, I got to ride this, I've ridden it several times, but

671
00:50:16,540 --> 00:50:21,800
in Florida, we started out with stations in Miami, Fort Lauderdale and West Palm Beach.

672
00:50:22,340 --> 00:50:26,560
And then we did inline stations, which are smaller stations than Aventura and

673
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:27,120
Boca Raton.

674
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,640
Those are similar to what we're going to be doing in Hesperia and Apple Valley.

675
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:35,000
Then our flagship station launched in 2023 in Orlando.

676
00:50:35,540 --> 00:50:39,320
And we're actually in the Orlando airport, so we're in Terminal C.

677
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,600
So if you come in, you can connect there.

678
00:50:41,780 --> 00:50:44,600
And just this week, we announced that you can fly with JetBlue.

679
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:48,420
They're going to be a partner and similar to what we're going to do with Metrolink.

680
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:54,640
You can purchase one ticket for Brightline and JetBlue and go all the way straight through to wherever your next stop is.

681
00:50:55,580 --> 00:51:04,860
The idea with Brightline is it's really hospitality-focused. It's about customer satisfaction. I fly, I travel a lot, and I know that air travel has changed.

682
00:51:05,060 --> 00:51:11,260
And by no means are we saying that we're going to impact air travel. People ask me that all the time. But we just want to give people a different standard.

683
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:18,540
So when you get on the trains, if you're ever in Florida, please let us know. But when you get on the train, there's plenty of room. They're light. They're airy.

684
00:51:18,540 --> 00:51:20,080
They're very sociable.

685
00:51:20,300 --> 00:51:20,860
I'm a talker.

686
00:51:21,500 --> 00:51:26,020
So when I was there, I did Miami to Orlando and I changed my seat in each segment.

687
00:51:26,700 --> 00:51:29,360
So some I sat face to face and met new friends.

688
00:51:29,740 --> 00:51:30,680
Somebody gave me a book.

689
00:51:31,240 --> 00:51:34,280
Other times I sat in the single seat where I could just look out the window.

690
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:35,680
You kind of choose your experience.

691
00:51:36,900 --> 00:51:39,480
We write our customer service against national companies.

692
00:51:40,060 --> 00:51:42,600
We want people to know, you know, to really enjoy it.

693
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:47,060
So when I came to Brightline my first day, when I go in for orientation, I'm in

694
00:51:47,060 --> 00:51:51,360
train station and I don't have a badge on or anything I'm just walking around and the people were so

695
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:55,720
friendly and I'm like they must know who I am but they did not they were just friendly because

696
00:51:55,720 --> 00:52:00,420
that's what we rate them on we expect them to have a standard of service and so when I did come

697
00:52:00,420 --> 00:52:04,540
back around with my badge on they were like oh it was like yeah but they had already proven

698
00:52:04,540 --> 00:52:06,620
that they knew what the model was all

699
00:52:10,620 --> 00:52:15,300
right what we're building next so Brightline West connecting

700
00:52:15,300 --> 00:52:20,260
Las Vegas and Southern California you'll see Vegas to Southern California I get questions

701
00:52:20,260 --> 00:52:23,160
We'll be building along the alignment the whole time.

702
00:52:23,340 --> 00:52:24,540
It's not like we're starting in Vegas

703
00:52:25,180 --> 00:52:26,400
and then ending in California.

704
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,060
We're doing segments along the way.

705
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,800
Our station, Las Vegas, then there'll be one in Victor Valley,

706
00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:36,500
one in Hesperia in what we're calling Southern California,

707
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:37,700
but it's Rancho Pucamanga.

708
00:52:38,660 --> 00:52:40,500
Zero at-grade crossings,

709
00:52:40,500 --> 00:52:42,920
because we are up the median of the 15.

710
00:52:43,220 --> 00:52:45,060
People ask that all the time, like, what are you doing?

711
00:52:45,620 --> 00:52:46,440
We're in the median,

712
00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:48,900
and that's what allowed this to be a federal project

713
00:52:48,900 --> 00:52:54,140
instead of a state project. All of our permits and things came at the federal level. We do

714
00:52:54,140 --> 00:52:59,140
work with cities as we have cutouts and different things and getting on where the stations are,

715
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:05,560
but the majority of our permits were federal. 218 miles from Las Vegas to Rancho. We're

716
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:10,520
estimating 8.6 million one-way passengers a year. And this is based on what we know

717
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:16,380
is coming into Vegas and coming into Southern California right now. I had the misfortune

718
00:53:16,380 --> 00:53:22,020
to be on the highway when they had the lithium battery turnover. And so I was coming to California,

719
00:53:22,020 --> 00:53:26,460
so it was much better than the folks that were headed to Vegas. But it still took me 10 hours

720
00:53:26,460 --> 00:53:30,820
to get to Orange County. And so people ask, you know, what do you do in that case? What

721
00:53:30,820 --> 00:53:35,660
are you guys preparing? We're working with the emergency services systems throughout San

722
00:53:35,660 --> 00:53:40,520
Bernardino County to make sure that we have a response and an action. They've been having

723
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,500
biweekly meetings for over a year now, longer than that. But I've been with the

724
00:53:44,500 --> 00:53:45,400
company 18 months.

725
00:53:46,260 --> 00:53:52,580
And so having those conversations, making sure we understand what needs to happen will

726
00:53:52,580 --> 00:53:55,020
be in the median and there'll be protection on each side.

727
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,260
So it's not a matter of, you know, people like our car is going to cross over.

728
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:01,820
We have already thought about that in our building safety into that.

729
00:54:02,420 --> 00:54:07,720
We say up to 186 miles per hour, our trains can go over 200.

730
00:54:08,220 --> 00:54:11,640
When you look at the terrain and how we're moving, we want to make sure that we're

731
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,540
rate that guarantees high speed but is also safe.

732
00:54:18,890 --> 00:54:21,190
Our trains, the Siemens American Pioneer 220.

733
00:54:21,790 --> 00:54:26,510
This train is being developed especially for our project. We selected Siemens in

734
00:54:27,250 --> 00:54:31,770
I believe May of last year to be our train provider. These are fully electric powered trains,

735
00:54:32,230 --> 00:54:37,650
450 passengers per train. I'd like to highlight that we can couple the trains to move more people.

736
00:54:38,970 --> 00:54:42,370
Our initial order is a 10 train set but we're already working on

737
00:54:43,050 --> 00:54:46,670
a potential second order and then that they will be interoperable.

738
00:54:46,890 --> 00:54:50,870
We have a connection and a commitment to California high-speed rail to make sure our trains can

739
00:54:50,870 --> 00:54:52,730
communicate and work together.

740
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:56,180
So the benefits.

741
00:54:56,540 --> 00:54:59,600
We already know that we're connecting city payers and we're helping people move.

742
00:55:00,340 --> 00:55:03,160
For me, my background part of it has been workforce development.

743
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:07,620
So the idea that we're bringing a new industry to the Southwest, I've been working with

744
00:55:07,620 --> 00:55:11,820
community colleges along the segment and universities as we build a curriculum

745
00:55:11,820 --> 00:55:14,680
so that we'll be able to teach and train people to work on the trains.

746
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,360
And then that will be the beginning for hopefully across the country.

747
00:55:19,900 --> 00:55:21,960
Creating high-quality good-paying jobs.

748
00:55:22,300 --> 00:55:27,460
We do have signed commitments for PLAs with the unions both here and in Nevada.

749
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,080
We want to make sure that people are earning a living wage while they're working on the train.

750
00:55:31,420 --> 00:55:37,480
And then once our permanent operations and maintenance jobs begin, nearly all thousand will be unioned.

751
00:55:37,500 --> 00:55:40,560
There's about 100 that are in different segments that aren't represented,

752
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,660
but we've committed to that throughout.

753
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:45,140
Green and safe.

754
00:55:45,460 --> 00:55:47,800
I always say that California is kind of ahead of the game here.

755
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,840
The battle we're catching up when you're looking at reducing CO2 in the air,

756
00:55:52,220 --> 00:55:57,660
we're taking the equivalent of 3 million cars, 16,000 short haul flights out,

757
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,660
so we're reducing the CO2 in that way.

758
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:01,920
And then also because of where we're at,

759
00:56:01,980 --> 00:56:03,420
and if you're pulling people off the highway,

760
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:07,920
you're also having an impact on traffic-related injuries and deaths.

761
00:56:10,630 --> 00:56:14,650
So the train, the track is mostly single track.

762
00:56:15,110 --> 00:56:19,250
There's about 37 miles of double track which allows trains to pass each other.

763
00:56:19,590 --> 00:56:24,730
So we will be going every hour on the hour, but we do have four areas,

764
00:56:24,930 --> 00:56:28,750
well five if you look at when we're coming out on Rancho, that will have double track,

765
00:56:28,810 --> 00:56:30,270
but it is mostly single track.

766
00:56:30,770 --> 00:56:34,650
And I learned this, I tell people, you know, transportation was not my background,

767
00:56:34,650 --> 00:56:39,090
but the way the trains are developed, the conductor would just go from the front of the train

768
00:56:39,090 --> 00:56:42,890
train to the back of the train and keep going so they don't turn around in the evening.

769
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:51,620
Our contractor summary, so we're in the process of finalizing all of our contracts right now.

770
00:56:52,260 --> 00:56:56,700
Our office, every conference room is full every day as they're negotiating those terms

771
00:56:56,700 --> 00:56:58,820
and you'll see things happening in the next few weeks.

772
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,000
The contract with Siemens was signed in spring of 2024.

773
00:57:03,720 --> 00:57:09,340
Siemens, we also have a Buy America project, but we do have a Buy America waiver for

774
00:57:09,340 --> 00:57:11,800
the first set of trains, the first two.

775
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,920
They will be built in Germany.

776
00:57:14,780 --> 00:57:18,700
Our engineers, our union leaders have been going over there to learn how to build a train.

777
00:57:19,260 --> 00:57:23,780
When they come back, we have a facility, or Siemens, out of the facility in Horses Bay of New York,

778
00:57:23,820 --> 00:57:28,360
upstate New York, which is very familiar. Siemens had a factory there previously.

779
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:30,360
That's where our trains will be built.

780
00:57:31,340 --> 00:57:36,280
The four parts for the contractors, civil infrastructure, tracking system, rolling stock,

781
00:57:36,380 --> 00:57:38,360
which is Siemens, and then our other project costs.

782
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:43,100
So as you see below, we have stations in Las Vegas, Victor Valley,

783
00:57:43,340 --> 00:57:47,100
Hesperia, and Southern California. But we also have vehicle maintenance facilities.

784
00:57:47,860 --> 00:57:51,760
One is in Sloan, Nevada, and the other is right outside Victor Valley and

785
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:52,220
Apple Valley.

786
00:57:55,830 --> 00:57:59,370
The work zones, we've labeled them Nevada civil, California

787
00:57:59,370 --> 00:58:04,110
civil north, California civil middle, California civil south. I have to tell

788
00:58:04,110 --> 00:58:08,530
people in Nevada that only 34 miles of the train is actually in Nevada. The

789
00:58:08,530 --> 00:58:12,250
majority of it is in California and they're very surprised. I'm like, you know the distance

790
00:58:12,250 --> 00:58:17,810
you should have this figured out. But these are the areas in the segment and how we'll

791
00:58:17,810 --> 00:58:19,870
work on the development of the train.

792
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:27,080
The Las Vegas station, we actually own 110 acres

793
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:31,660
where we're putting the station. The station will only take about 20 acres. So transit

794
00:58:31,660 --> 00:58:36,120
oriented development will go on the other 90 acres. In Miami, we did something

795
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:40,200
very similar. When we came in, we have where our station is, but we built up

796
00:58:41,340 --> 00:58:43,620
some of it we built ourselves, some we sold.

797
00:58:44,500 --> 00:58:46,280
We brought a grocery store to the area.

798
00:58:46,380 --> 00:58:48,020
They hadn't had one in over 40 years,

799
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,140
but really worked with the local community to see what was needed.

800
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,260
And I don't have the slide on this one,

801
00:58:53,300 --> 00:58:57,360
but if you see the footprint of where they were at before we came

802
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:00,060
and where they're at now, it really spurred development for the area.

803
00:59:03,340 --> 00:59:05,960
Here is what it will look like on the Las Vegas side.

804
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:09,000
You'll see the green of our station at kind of the gateway to the strip.

805
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,200
We know that folks are coming in to spend time on the strip.

806
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:13,880
but we're close to the airport.

807
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,240
We're close to the future airport multimodal center.

808
00:59:17,700 --> 00:59:21,080
You can't see it on this map, but there is talk of another airport in Nevada,

809
00:59:21,260 --> 00:59:22,220
the Ivanpah Airport.

810
00:59:22,580 --> 00:59:25,480
We're in those discussions to make sure we can connect there, too.

811
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,560
Allegiant Stadium, where the Las Vegas Raiders play.

812
00:59:29,740 --> 00:59:30,200
Forgive us.

813
00:59:30,340 --> 00:59:32,140
That is the A's of the last team.

814
00:59:32,300 --> 00:59:36,400
We're not taking any more teams from California, but also the A Stadium.

815
00:59:37,780 --> 00:59:38,500
I'm sorry.

816
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:40,400
I know.

817
00:59:40,620 --> 00:59:40,920
We're done.

818
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:46,580
we're done. Basketball teams can be an all-new team. We're told. We're told. But just showing

819
00:59:46,580 --> 00:59:50,200
that people are going to be able to connect. And beyond just being able to connect, we're

820
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:55,140
creating opportunities. We're working with casinos where you can book every and we're

821
00:59:55,140 --> 00:59:58,480
working with Uber and Lyft. So from your phone, you'll be able to book your ticket,

822
00:59:58,480 --> 00:59:59,840
your uber

823
01:00:01,740 --> 01:00:03,080
All through one ticket.

824
01:00:03,300 --> 01:00:04,820
So you're not out there standing around.

825
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,060
I know if you've been at the airport.

826
01:00:06,380 --> 01:00:09,780
I purposely did not fly into LAX just because of that Uber situation.

827
01:00:10,340 --> 01:00:12,980
I'm like, let me go somewhere else where I can move a little quicker.

828
01:00:13,460 --> 01:00:15,320
But we want to make sure it's an experience.

829
01:00:15,700 --> 01:00:19,960
And it helps your experience if you're not stressed out trying to navigate a maneuver.

830
01:00:20,340 --> 01:00:21,940
So the casinos are excited.

831
01:00:22,300 --> 01:00:26,160
The conferences that are coming to town, everybody's looking forward to how we can make that seamless.

832
01:00:28,550 --> 01:00:29,950
For our high desert stations.

833
01:00:29,950 --> 01:00:33,010
So these are what we call our inline stations.

834
01:00:33,430 --> 01:00:34,530
They're a little smaller.

835
01:00:34,730 --> 01:00:37,810
We've also purchased land around them that will be developed.

836
01:00:38,230 --> 01:00:42,130
You'll see the Victor Valley one around Dell Evans Parkway.

837
01:00:42,970 --> 01:00:45,390
I've gone out and I've taken pictures and stood in the desert.

838
01:00:45,830 --> 01:00:48,010
And so we know that that's going to be a big change,

839
01:00:48,030 --> 01:00:50,130
but we want it to look and fit where it's at.

840
01:00:50,590 --> 01:00:54,130
So if you see our Florida stations, they fit the area they're in.

841
01:00:54,730 --> 01:00:56,750
The West Palm Beach Station is my favorite.

842
01:00:56,750 --> 01:01:00,990
It's small, it's kind of nestled in the community, but it really fits what's happening there,

843
01:01:01,010 --> 01:01:02,330
so we want to make sure we do that.

844
01:01:04,110 --> 01:01:09,570
Hesperia, SBCTA, when we were doing this project and we had our conversation, we needed an

845
01:01:09,570 --> 01:01:14,590
extra lane, and they gave us that lane, and in exchange for that, we agreed to do the

846
01:01:14,590 --> 01:01:16,890
Hesperia Station, which is more of a commuter station.

847
01:01:17,430 --> 01:01:21,990
So we have designated train travel allowed in the morning and the afternoon to get

848
01:01:21,990 --> 01:01:23,930
people to and from work on that station.

849
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:34,000
The Southern California station, which is our Rancho Cucabunga station, the multimodal hub, say that five times.

850
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,500
Our station will be built directly over MetroLink.

851
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:44,740
So the idea is similar to when you're on the East Coast and you just take the escalator down to the next level and get on the train.

852
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:45,780
That's what you'll have with us.

853
01:01:46,300 --> 01:01:46,900
Same thing.

854
01:01:47,060 --> 01:01:49,020
You'll be able to book your ticket, one ticket.

855
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:53,300
We will synchronize the schedules so that you don't have to wait a long time.

856
01:01:53,460 --> 01:01:55,180
You get there, you go down, get on the train.

857
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,680
Like I said, single ticket integrated ride.

858
01:01:57,980 --> 01:01:59,340
We'll be doing joint branding.

859
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,220
Of course, we'll have the high speed rail bright line trains.

860
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,540
But once you get there, we want to make sure bright line is still represented.

861
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:07,940
So we're working with them on that.

862
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,240
Also, the parking structure, 3,700 spaces.

863
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:16,320
Each site has a lot of parking because we know people want to park and ride.

864
01:02:16,500 --> 01:02:18,140
So all of our stations have a lot of parking.

865
01:02:21,950 --> 01:02:26,650
American manufacturing, to date, we're already working with 50 suppliers in 28 states across

866
01:02:26,650 --> 01:02:29,750
the United States to include Puerto Rico.

867
01:02:30,230 --> 01:02:34,730
The ideas we're taking by America seriously, if you have folks, if you go to our webpage

868
01:02:34,730 --> 01:02:39,890
on BrightlineWest.com, you scroll down and it's the interested subcontractor vendor.

869
01:02:40,370 --> 01:02:42,750
Click on that and people can complete the link.

870
01:02:43,270 --> 01:02:47,070
When they do that, every Friday that link goes to all of our contractors.

871
01:02:47,070 --> 01:02:51,390
So as they're sourcing different vendors and things, they have a list to go from.

872
01:02:51,930 --> 01:02:55,150
Also, I've asked them when they're doing events to reach out to that list

873
01:02:55,150 --> 01:02:58,510
and make sure those people are aware of what's happening so that they can attend

874
01:02:58,510 --> 01:03:00,630
and get more information on how they can participate.

875
01:03:03,070 --> 01:03:05,510
And then the last slide is just our contact information.

876
01:03:06,010 --> 01:03:10,350
I always highlight our social media because people create their own social media

877
01:03:10,350 --> 01:03:11,170
about our project.

878
01:03:11,810 --> 01:03:15,230
If you go on YouTube, you're going to see lots of folks who have nothing to do with us,

879
01:03:15,230 --> 01:03:19,950
but they've created their own social media, so I want people to know where they can get

880
01:03:19,950 --> 01:03:21,350
the correct information.

881
01:03:21,870 --> 01:03:27,430
As it relates to traffic and things and construction as we get started, we're working with both

882
01:03:27,430 --> 01:03:32,790
Caltrans and INDOT in Nevada to tap into the systems they already use so you can find

883
01:03:32,790 --> 01:03:36,130
out, you can go to Twitter and see where we're going to be if anything's coming

884
01:03:36,130 --> 01:03:36,470
out.

885
01:03:36,590 --> 01:03:43,050
We're doing a robust outreach program, everything from community meetings to even door knocking

886
01:03:43,050 --> 01:03:48,390
in some areas because we want people to know before. Having worked for elected officials most of my

887
01:03:48,390 --> 01:03:53,890
career, I know they're the ones to get hit with all the questions and so we want to remove that.

888
01:03:54,490 --> 01:03:58,530
Even sitting down with them, I had a meeting yesterday and I remember who it was with but

889
01:03:58,530 --> 01:04:01,730
we said, listen, we know you're going to get questions. Here are some answers,

890
01:04:02,270 --> 01:04:07,310
but also please refer them to us so they can hear from us directly. People make up lots of

891
01:04:07,310 --> 01:04:11,770
things and they hear lots of stuff in the news and make it what they think it is,

892
01:04:11,770 --> 01:04:13,090
but we want folks to hear from us.

893
01:04:13,390 --> 01:04:15,010
So that is all I have.

894
01:04:15,090 --> 01:04:16,110
I can take some questions.

895
01:04:16,830 --> 01:04:18,270
Thank you very much for your presentation.

896
01:04:18,690 --> 01:04:20,710
First will be Supervisor Spiegel.

897
01:04:23,570 --> 01:04:24,930
I'm very excited for this.

898
01:04:25,090 --> 01:04:27,190
I had the opportunity to be there for the groundbreaking.

899
01:04:27,570 --> 01:04:27,790
Good.

900
01:04:28,090 --> 01:04:34,430
So I even had my little, the spoke, the yellow, yeah.

901
01:04:35,530 --> 01:04:38,870
My question is, I'm just a little concerned

902
01:04:38,870 --> 01:04:40,310
and I'm sure it's taken care of

903
01:04:40,310 --> 01:04:50,270
because you talked about – you've already met with SBTA and talking to them about – SBCA – about share and stuff, going down the median.

904
01:04:51,270 --> 01:04:55,330
And in Riverside, we have express lanes up to the median.

905
01:04:55,910 --> 01:04:59,630
And I'm thinking that you guys are continuing that.

906
01:04:59,770 --> 01:05:00,650
That's still the plan, right?

907
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:07,560
Actually, no. Well, not all the way up there, we're using this instead. They're going to

908
01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:11,020
be picking up that amount of capacity and using it. That's important to you.

909
01:05:12,100 --> 01:05:15,840
I want to make sure that the record is clear, Mr. Chair, if members of the committee could

910
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:19,300
activate their mic so that we have a clear record. Thank you.

911
01:05:20,020 --> 01:05:25,960
Basically, SPCT has an agreement with Brightline that they're going to pick up the capacity

912
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:27,700
we would have had we added the other lights.

913
01:05:27,700 --> 01:05:34,140
Okay. I just know that ours with the toll would be limited if you wanted to go further down.

914
01:05:34,740 --> 01:05:38,800
So planning for these kind of things in the future, you've taken that ability out,

915
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:43,420
but if they've already made that agreement, I'm not a happy camper, but that's okay.

916
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:48,300
So that was my bigger concern. I had another note here, and I'm trying to find what I did with it.

917
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,440
Anyway, if I find it, I'll raise my hand again.

918
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:51,960
Okay.

919
01:05:52,740 --> 01:05:53,220
Thank you.

920
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:54,880
Thank you.

921
01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:55,660
Commissioner Marquez?

922
01:05:56,260 --> 01:05:56,440
Ray?

923
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:57,120
I'm sorry.

924
01:05:57,140 --> 01:05:57,760
Thank you, sir.

925
01:05:57,860 --> 01:05:58,360
Appreciate that.

926
01:05:58,640 --> 01:05:59,540
Aasha, great presentation.

927
01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:00,200
Thank you.

928
01:06:00,420 --> 01:06:00,600
Good to see you again.

929
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:01,340
Question for you.

930
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,100
Commuters from the high desert coming down.

931
01:06:03,740 --> 01:06:06,260
Is there going to be like a specific price for them or are they going to have to pay

932
01:06:06,260 --> 01:06:06,800
the full fare?

933
01:06:07,340 --> 01:06:07,660
No.

934
01:06:07,780 --> 01:06:13,100
They'll be a specific price and we're working to make it comparable to metro link pricing.

935
01:06:13,540 --> 01:06:16,260
We know that people are on their way to work and it's a commuter rail.

936
01:06:16,660 --> 01:06:19,140
So we're taking that in as we're building the pricing.

937
01:06:19,500 --> 01:06:23,200
So we're hearing somewhere around $10, $12 maybe.

938
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:23,840
Perfect.

939
01:06:24,140 --> 01:06:24,580
Good.

940
01:06:24,580 --> 01:06:30,660
Since Mr. Waffner is up there, is there going to be a seamless way to fly into, say, Ontario

941
01:06:30,660 --> 01:06:33,140
Airport and get to the station at Rancho?

942
01:06:33,580 --> 01:06:34,300
Is there anything happening?

943
01:06:34,620 --> 01:06:36,440
We are in discussions for that now.

944
01:06:37,220 --> 01:06:41,620
And I can get back to you directly on where they're at, but they are having those conversations.

945
01:06:42,300 --> 01:06:46,860
So I will follow up because I'm not completely aware of the detail of them, but I can get

946
01:06:46,860 --> 01:06:47,000
it.

947
01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:47,920
How about Mr. Waffner?

948
01:06:48,020 --> 01:06:49,700
Can you share with us on the tunneling?

949
01:06:49,940 --> 01:06:50,940
Well, yeah, the tunneling.

950
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:52,600
You should show that on your map, obviously.

951
01:06:53,740 --> 01:06:54,200
The tunnel.

952
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:57,780
is building a tunnel directly from the Kookamunga metro station into the

953
01:06:57,780 --> 01:07:02,700
Ontario. Yes, I knew that it just wasn't front of my. Thank you.

954
01:07:06,790 --> 01:07:07,430
Steve Sanchez,

955
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:10,260
thank

956
01:07:10,260 --> 01:07:12,640
you for that great presentation. I just have a quick question about power.

957
01:07:13,240 --> 01:07:17,000
You said it's all electric. We could bear it. A lot of places that have been

958
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:21,000
rolled in blackouts and you know. Yes. How does this all get empowered? Where does

959
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:24,740
it get powered from? Do you get the power from each jurisdiction you drive by?

960
01:07:24,900 --> 01:07:27,920
Or is it coming from? So we're building three transmission stations in

961
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:31,600
California and one in Nevada and then our trains the way they're set up they

962
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:35,600
power themselves as they move so those transmission stations will be more for

963
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:42,260
the VMS and then the other facilities used to keep us moving okay good thank

964
01:07:42,260 --> 01:07:45,340
you next is a mr. Wapner

965
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:57,060
okay then thank you mr. Chair thank you for the

966
01:07:57,060 --> 01:08:01,560
presentation. Two questions. Timeline, did you talk a little bit more about

967
01:08:01,560 --> 01:08:06,280
operation? And then you heard the previous presentation. You want to take

968
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:10,260
them over, maybe speed them up and keep it more in cost with that. No, no, no. We

969
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:15,120
are all family. We're all family. We're bringing high-speed rail to the Southwest

970
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:19,600
first. I will say timeline. Originally, we were really trying to meet the

971
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:23,940
Olympics here in LA and that is not going to happen. While we were awarded

972
01:08:23,940 --> 01:08:28,500
the grant in December of 23. If you've ever negotiated with the federal government, you

973
01:08:28,500 --> 01:08:32,840
know that takes time. So we did not get the signed contract with them until September

974
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:39,540
of 24. So that kind of pushed us back. So now we're looking at Lake 28. Similar to what

975
01:08:39,540 --> 01:08:43,760
Ladonna was saying with the testing area, we're building that. That's one of the

976
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:48,380
things that will be built first because there is an exhaustive amount of testing

977
01:08:48,380 --> 01:08:53,120
that has to happen. So you'll see trains moving before you see them moving with

978
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:57,700
people on them because we have to go through that testing process, but late 28th.

979
01:08:57,780 --> 01:09:00,080
Three to five years to get at this project done?

980
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,140
We're saying three from when we start, yes.

981
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,040
Which is, compared to the 20th?

982
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:07,220
Okay.

983
01:09:07,580 --> 01:09:09,080
It's a different setup.

984
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:09,840
It's a different setup.

985
01:09:10,020 --> 01:09:10,420
We're family.

986
01:09:12,740 --> 01:09:13,780
All right.

987
01:09:13,980 --> 01:09:14,240
Okay.

988
01:09:14,700 --> 01:09:15,160
Thank you.

989
01:09:15,740 --> 01:09:16,500
Moving to online.

990
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:17,320
Carol Moore.

991
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:18,160
Yes.

992
01:09:18,300 --> 01:09:22,540
My question, thanks also for your presentation, and we're excited.

993
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:28,440
My question has to do, again, with the technology, you're using a single rail.

994
01:09:29,460 --> 01:09:39,060
And to help us understand as things go forward, because technology changes, does that limit the types of trains that you can have?

995
01:09:39,140 --> 01:09:40,060
Could you address that?

996
01:09:40,300 --> 01:09:40,640
Thank you.

997
01:09:41,480 --> 01:09:45,460
So we're committed to the train that's being developed specifically for us.

998
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:50,320
The one that's coming from Siemens, they know what kind of rail we're going to have.

999
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:54,240
We're hoping that this will be, you know, the kind of the rail of the future as we move forward.

1000
01:09:54,660 --> 01:09:59,120
So I don't know, and they are taking into consideration what California High Speed Rail

1001
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,100
and other projects are doing that they'll be able to be interactive.

1002
01:10:02,820 --> 01:10:08,120
But as it stands now, our trains will operate on our rails the way it's set up,

1003
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:12,680
and it is the height of technology, which is why they're being built in Germany first,

1004
01:10:13,180 --> 01:10:15,160
because that is where this is happening.

1005
01:10:15,320 --> 01:10:19,540
You know, trains all over Europe and Asia are kind of ahead of us here.

1006
01:10:19,540 --> 01:10:23,780
So we went there to get the best technology and then built something that worked for us here

1007
01:10:24,780 --> 01:10:29,480
When I first came on and I was like how are we going to do trains in the heat and do that and they were like

1008
01:10:29,480 --> 01:10:33,200
Well, you know, we have trains across the Middle East. I was like, okay point taken

1009
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:39,320
Those are this much more heat than we're used to so from weather conditions to even how we you know

1010
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:41,280
Go up the hills. They had to remind me

1011
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:45,100
I've been on trains in Europe and they showed me the terrain and I was like, oh, okay

1012
01:10:45,100 --> 01:10:47,080
I didn't realize it because I was on the train

1013
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:50,500
But they are at the height of technology now.

1014
01:10:50,620 --> 01:10:52,140
We know that things continue to grow,

1015
01:10:52,460 --> 01:10:54,520
but we're focused on what we have now

1016
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,060
and what's coming over the next few years.

1017
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,060
And it is the single rail.

1018
01:10:58,900 --> 01:10:59,200
Yes.

1019
01:10:59,660 --> 01:11:00,120
Thank you.

1020
01:11:01,260 --> 01:11:02,120
Marshall McLean.

1021
01:11:03,020 --> 01:11:03,660
Hi, Aasha.

1022
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,100
I just want to say it was such a pleasure to have lunch with you

1023
01:11:06,100 --> 01:11:07,060
in the desert.

1024
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:10,020
And thank you for this presentation.

1025
01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:12,200
I thought it was really great.

1026
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,880
I look forward to the train.

1027
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:17,720
And I have kind of the same comment.

1028
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:22,540
I was going to ask, when was this idea first brought about?

1029
01:11:24,380 --> 01:11:27,840
And then the funding that you have is completed.

1030
01:11:28,260 --> 01:11:29,580
You have all the funding for it?

1031
01:11:29,820 --> 01:11:30,300
Yes.

1032
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,580
So this idea, I joke about this, having grown up in Vegas,

1033
01:11:33,740 --> 01:11:34,880
I heard about this my whole life.

1034
01:11:35,480 --> 01:11:38,140
The Marnell family in Las Vegas, they're in construction.

1035
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,380
They built a lot of the hotels that you've seen.

1036
01:11:40,780 --> 01:11:43,500
It was their initial idea as a family that this should happen.

1037
01:11:44,380 --> 01:11:46,280
Brightline came in, I believe it was 2020.

1038
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:51,060
And I want to say we were the fourth or the fifth company to actually own the project.

1039
01:11:51,260 --> 01:11:53,180
So it's been around for 25 years.

1040
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,940
Andrew on our team, he has been around since the beginning.

1041
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,000
And so he's with us, but he's been around since it was discussed.

1042
01:12:00,500 --> 01:12:02,160
It was supposed to stop in Victorville.

1043
01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:05,580
When Brightline came on, they realized that that was not enough,

1044
01:12:05,680 --> 01:12:07,360
and they added the rancho link.

1045
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,420
So this is something that's been talked about.

1046
01:12:10,420 --> 01:12:17,920
It's been, you know, everybody goes in and puts theirs on it, so Brightline, given the history they had in Florida, were perfectly suited to do it.

1047
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:22,260
In terms of our funding, so we started with the federal money, the 3.5.

1048
01:12:22,900 --> 01:12:24,640
We were able to solidify that.

1049
01:12:24,820 --> 01:12:27,960
Once that was done, we went out for our private activity bonds.

1050
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:35,380
We have, I believe it's 5.5 billion, do not quote me, don't say that, 3.5 billion that we have.

1051
01:12:35,380 --> 01:12:40,320
We sold 2.5 billion in March, so that is set aside and ready to go.

1052
01:12:40,780 --> 01:12:46,300
We're holding on to the other billion for later in the project because once you initiate them, you have a window you have to use them in.

1053
01:12:46,620 --> 01:12:47,820
So we're waiting for those.

1054
01:12:48,420 --> 01:12:51,880
And then the remaining is our bank financing, which is what we're doing right now.

1055
01:12:52,500 --> 01:12:55,460
All those things had to take place before we could go to the banks.

1056
01:12:55,800 --> 01:13:00,360
So in the coming weeks, you will hear that that has wrapped and you'll hear those terms.

1057
01:13:00,860 --> 01:13:03,820
The way this is set up, we must have all our money before we start.

1058
01:13:04,380 --> 01:13:06,060
So it's not a matter in Florida.

1059
01:13:06,160 --> 01:13:08,760
We were able to raise money and build and raise money and build.

1060
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:13,700
But with this, we have to have every dime in before we can actually start construction.

1061
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,980
And so we're very confident it's coming soon.

1062
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:17,840
I don't like to give dates.

1063
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:22,000
But I'm very soon and we're expecting to see some construction late this summer.

1064
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:23,980
So that'll give you kind of a window.

1065
01:13:24,780 --> 01:13:26,620
Good concept to have your money.

1066
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:29,940
And then you can build and it will be done.

1067
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:31,940
Anyway, thank you for being here.

1068
01:13:31,940 --> 01:13:33,960
It was a pleasure to meet you.

1069
01:13:34,460 --> 01:13:35,380
Yes, I enjoyed our lunch.

1070
01:13:36,860 --> 01:13:38,840
Commissioner Wu, are you good?

1071
01:13:40,620 --> 01:13:43,040
A really quick clarification.

1072
01:13:43,660 --> 01:13:44,680
You mentioned a single rail.

1073
01:13:45,480 --> 01:13:47,800
It's a single track with two rails, right?

1074
01:13:48,300 --> 01:13:49,740
An overhead part of the plan.

1075
01:13:49,820 --> 01:13:51,040
It's an overhead catenary.

1076
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:52,200
It's a single rail.

1077
01:13:52,380 --> 01:13:54,220
And so you may get me on the technical side.

1078
01:13:54,300 --> 01:13:55,740
That's why I try to defer to my engineers.

1079
01:13:56,340 --> 01:13:58,920
I know that it is a double rail for a different segment,

1080
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:02,800
but it is single for the majority of it.

1081
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,740
Now I can go do a deeper dive and get some more information too.

1082
01:14:06,940 --> 01:14:09,020
Single rail, similar to the monorail?

1083
01:14:11,750 --> 01:14:13,470
Sure. Which monorail?

1084
01:14:14,750 --> 01:14:16,130
Which monorail thing?

1085
01:14:16,450 --> 01:14:17,830
Well the monorail in Las Vegas.

1086
01:14:17,850 --> 01:14:18,450
The one in Vegas?

1087
01:14:18,850 --> 01:14:19,910
Yeah, in Las Vegas.

1088
01:14:20,130 --> 01:14:20,330
Oh.

1089
01:14:20,470 --> 01:14:21,150
Only one rail.

1090
01:14:21,550 --> 01:14:23,210
Single track has two rails.

1091
01:14:24,070 --> 01:14:24,870
Single rail.

1092
01:14:25,030 --> 01:14:26,170
Let me go back to my slide.

1093
01:14:26,570 --> 01:14:27,910
Commissioner, will you try to get me?

1094
01:14:28,430 --> 01:14:29,210
Hold on.

1095
01:14:29,950 --> 01:14:33,790
Yeah, I feel the slide is showing two rails with the overhead as far as the flag.

1096
01:14:34,950 --> 01:14:37,230
So there'll be one train at a time.

1097
01:14:37,390 --> 01:14:42,170
Now what that looks like, you see on here, those cutouts are where it becomes a double.

1098
01:14:43,110 --> 01:14:45,770
So when we say single or one, I don't want to misspeak.

1099
01:14:45,830 --> 01:14:47,750
So if I can get that back to you, I can do that today.

1100
01:14:48,430 --> 01:14:49,730
Don't, don't, don't kick me yet.

1101
01:14:50,290 --> 01:14:51,130
No, I'm kidding.

1102
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,160
Anybody besides Chairman Wood.

1103
01:14:55,380 --> 01:14:55,720
We're good.

1104
01:14:55,980 --> 01:14:56,260
Okay.

1105
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:57,560
Well, thank you very much for your presentation.

1106
01:14:57,560 --> 01:14:58,160
We're going to.

1107
01:14:58,360 --> 01:14:58,960
Thank you.

1108
01:14:59,300 --> 01:14:59,940
And I will get the.

1109
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:07,100
Back to you today. I'll get your information. All right. Take care. Excuse me. We're going to

1110
01:15:07,100 --> 01:15:10,720
move on to item number nine, Southern California zero emissions truck infrastructure studies,

1111
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:15,140
findings and final report. Jonathan Raspow will be presenting this.

1112
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:21,720
Good morning, everyone.

1113
01:15:23,660 --> 01:15:24,920
Good to see you all again.

1114
01:15:26,300 --> 01:15:26,700
Okay.

1115
01:15:28,700 --> 01:15:29,100
No.

1116
01:15:29,340 --> 01:15:29,740
Yeah.

1117
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:35,920
Just kidding.

1118
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:39,320
It's actually going to be me with the smart city, the mobility program update.

1119
01:15:40,460 --> 01:15:40,860
Beautiful.

1120
01:15:41,140 --> 01:15:41,280
Okay.

1121
01:15:41,580 --> 01:15:42,340
Well, thanks, everyone.

1122
01:15:42,700 --> 01:15:44,060
Good morning, chair and commission.

1123
01:15:44,940 --> 01:15:45,940
I am a chair and committee.

1124
01:15:46,180 --> 01:15:47,140
I'm happy to be here today.

1125
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:48,240
My name is Marissa Ladrak.

1126
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,660
And I will be talking a little bit about our smart city.

1127
01:15:51,660 --> 01:15:57,240
and Mobility Innovations Program, which just wrapped up in our upcoming Sustainable Communities

1128
01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:58,000
Program as well.

1129
01:15:59,240 --> 01:16:03,600
So to recap, provide a little bit of an update on where we are, how we've got here.

1130
01:16:04,100 --> 01:16:06,620
So a lot of these things on the slide are going to look familiar to you.

1131
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,620
All of these are a lot of the really great efforts that we've brought to the committee

1132
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,720
in a couple of previous fiscal years.

1133
01:16:12,820 --> 01:16:17,100
This includes everything from our clean transportation technology policy to our

1134
01:16:17,100 --> 01:16:22,440
Clean Technology Compendium, our goods movement partnership, such as the Zero Mission Truck

1135
01:16:22,440 --> 01:16:27,040
Infrastructure Study, which you'll hear about here shortly, including some of the things

1136
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:31,860
we've been doing for our Clean Cities Coalition, and as well as the pilot programs and technology

1137
01:16:31,860 --> 01:16:35,660
demonstrations that I'll be talking about today, one of which was our Sustainable

1138
01:16:35,660 --> 01:16:38,840
Communities Program, Smart Cities and Mobility Innovations Program.

1139
01:16:39,860 --> 01:16:45,740
So taking all of us back to 2020 here, the last time when we had our Regional

1140
01:16:45,740 --> 01:16:50,700
transportation plan at Sustainable Community Strategy or Connect SoCal adopted back in 2020.

1141
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:56,620
This was what launched our funding cycle for these types of projects and programs. So

1142
01:16:56,620 --> 01:17:01,200
back in 2020, based on Connect SoCal that was implemented at that time,

1143
01:17:01,580 --> 01:17:05,700
this is the main vehicle here, the Sustainable Communities Program that we used to provide

1144
01:17:05,700 --> 01:17:10,320
technical assistance and funding for our communities here at SCAC. So this was that

1145
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:13,760
vehicle that we used and the third call that we did for projects was for our Smart

1146
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:17,680
city than mobility innovation, then you can see that there were a couple other categories there too

1147
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:23,960
for active transportation, housing, and engagement. So as far as our call was concerned, we were

1148
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:28,360
really interested in smart cities and job centers, GoZones, and shared mobility and mobility of the

1149
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:33,020
service, and specifically looking at anywhere where we could use technology and innovation to

1150
01:17:33,020 --> 01:17:38,440
help us with our mobility ecosystem. So that being said, we had these three project types,

1151
01:17:38,440 --> 01:17:41,340
focusing on curbspace, data collection and inventory,

1152
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:43,900
also technology assessment or adoption,

1153
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:45,900
and then our parking management plans.

1154
01:17:47,060 --> 01:17:49,120
And here are the different awards that we have,

1155
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,280
and these are all things that we've brought to you,

1156
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:52,600
provided updates on before,

1157
01:17:52,780 --> 01:17:54,400
but happy to report that all of the projects

1158
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:57,400
have now concluded, and here are the eight projects.

1159
01:17:57,500 --> 01:17:58,880
I'm gonna run through them all pretty quickly

1160
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:00,180
because I don't have a lot of time,

1161
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:02,040
but I did wanna bring some attention

1162
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,360
to all the things that we found in these great projects.

1163
01:18:04,740 --> 01:18:06,360
So in the city of Rialto,

1164
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:09,160
We were looking at existing warehousing and logistic conditions.

1165
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:13,720
We were looking at the costs and benefits and technology and policy-based solutions.

1166
01:18:14,480 --> 01:18:18,880
So the warehousing and logistics plan focused on the adopted truck routes and the residential

1167
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:22,460
areas that were along those routes, and we were really looking at what could be done

1168
01:18:22,460 --> 01:18:25,900
in the first and last miles of trips to help change things.

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And this provided us with an implementation plan for a pilot project and included

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01:18:30,980 --> 01:18:34,920
everything from the goals, policies, and programs for those regulatory changes.

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01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:46,600
And we're really looking to do things like reduce traffic congestion, reduce pavement degradation, improve traffic safety, and reduce air pollution, saving fuel costs, things like that.

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01:18:47,580 --> 01:18:54,040
Now, for the cities of Los Angeles, Long Beach and Stanton, they were all doing curb data collection and inventory.

1173
01:18:54,040 --> 01:18:59,240
And this was really intended to build off of SCAGS 2022 curb space management strategy.

1174
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:04,420
Now this study resulted in a pilot project and associated work plan for each of the three cities.

1175
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:12,240
And this allowed us to explore a variety of pilot concepts, which included things like flex zones, computer vision camera, the automated

1176
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:20,580
enforcement, pricing for certain types of short term parking, and even real time dynamic pricing to help adjust for on street rates based on supply and demand.

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01:19:20,580 --> 01:19:24,180
And then the three recommended pilots we have for the City of LA.

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01:19:24,500 --> 01:19:26,420
It's the Westwood Neighborhood Flex Zone.

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01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:30,040
For Long Beach, it is the Automated Enforcement Pilot Program.

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01:19:30,300 --> 01:19:33,660
And for Stanton, it is a permit parking program update.

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01:19:34,980 --> 01:19:37,820
Now for San Gabriel Valley and their Council of Governments,

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01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:42,700
we were working on an evaluation for their GO SGV Bike Share Program.

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01:19:42,820 --> 01:19:44,160
For those of you who might not be familiar,

1184
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,860
that's a long-term bike share program that allows San Gabriel Valley residents

1185
01:19:47,860 --> 01:19:52,760
to rent an e-bike for an extended period providing a low emission alternative to driving.

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01:19:53,420 --> 01:19:59,000
Now, there are no e-bike share stations, but rather residents can join the program at partner locations

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01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,060
and then they receive an e-bike for several months.

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01:20:02,340 --> 01:20:06,980
ActiveSGV has a fleet of 828 e-bikes and 12 e-cargo bikes,

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01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:08,800
and that's the nonprofit that runs this.

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01:20:09,100 --> 01:20:11,340
So that's the fleet size we were working with.

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01:20:11,700 --> 01:20:16,220
We were able to see that two-thirds of the participants confirmed that they like using their e-bike

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01:20:16,220 --> 01:20:21,160
to replace vehicle trips. So I think that really does emphasize the impact of what these bike share

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01:20:21,160 --> 01:20:25,900
programs can be. They can be popular in replacing those trips. And the outcome of this project helps

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01:20:25,900 --> 01:20:31,360
SCAG and active SGV better understand and optimize the bike share program to better increase

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01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:37,360
participation and then shift those trip behaviors. Now for Desert Hot Springs they were looking

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01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:41,720
at a downtown and light industrial parking plan and this really focused on the existing and

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01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:45,980
conditions, particularly for downtown and their industrial cannabis districts.

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01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:51,080
Now, this plan identified short-term and long-term strategies for consideration and exploration.

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Some of these short-term strategies include things like repealing minimum parking requirements,

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01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:00,520
facilitating shared public parking, discouraging unshared parking,

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01:21:01,100 --> 01:21:04,320
and supporting walking, biking, and shared mobility solutions.

1202
01:21:04,780 --> 01:21:08,460
But then there's also a range of longer-term strategies that were identified,

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01:21:08,460 --> 01:21:15,240
things like managing parking demand, parking pricing based on demand, investing in new parking technology,

1204
01:21:15,780 --> 01:21:22,140
creating a parking benefit district, and preparing to manage the public parking with dedicated city or contract staff.

1205
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:30,540
As far as garden grow, we were looking at curb data here, but it was really a parking type of project.

1206
01:21:30,780 --> 01:21:33,260
So we're looking at curb and parking here.

1207
01:21:33,260 --> 01:21:39,480
The project explored parking management and mapping of the curb in six different study areas.

1208
01:21:39,820 --> 01:21:44,700
And these all either focused on areas where there was a lot of overutilization of parking or underutilization.

1209
01:21:45,420 --> 01:21:50,220
So looking at that, local residents have been experiencing parking challenges in some neighborhoods.

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01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:55,900
And seeing that some of the street segments did have a parking utilization rate that exceeded 85%,

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01:21:55,900 --> 01:22:00,600
it was pretty clear that interventions and strategies would be necessary to alleviate these challenges.

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01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:06,660
And the city worked really closely with residents and completed extensive engagement to ensure

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01:22:06,660 --> 01:22:11,040
that the recommended menu of planning and policy options are supported by the community.

1214
01:22:11,340 --> 01:22:16,180
And these include things like continuing efforts to increase enforcement of the existing parking

1215
01:22:16,180 --> 01:22:22,140
regulations, looking at establishing a residential permit or residential parking permit in RPP

1216
01:22:22,140 --> 01:22:28,680
district, facilitating shared parking agreements, establishing transportation demand management

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01:22:28,680 --> 01:22:33,800
or TDM requirements for new residential developments and then potentially implementing a comprehensive

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01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:36,520
traffic reduction and transportation improvement fee.

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01:22:38,610 --> 01:22:40,230
And then lastly for the city of Laguna Woods,

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01:22:40,490 --> 01:22:46,690
we were looking at identifying a path towards connected and autonomous vehicle or CAV

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01:22:46,690 --> 01:22:52,010
readiness. So this helped us to envision a potential operation of an AV pilot program within

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01:22:52,010 --> 01:22:57,390
the city. This approach involves three phases with the focus on scalability for the SCAG

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01:22:57,390 --> 01:23:02,650
region. The first phase was designed to provide independent value regardless of other city-approved

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01:23:02,650 --> 01:23:07,070
AV pilot services. So we're really looking at improved infrastructure and mobility

1225
01:23:07,070 --> 01:23:12,410
and things that can help interface with AV operations in the long run. So this included

1226
01:23:12,410 --> 01:23:18,110
concepts like mobility hubs, roadway alterations, mobility on demand platforms, enhanced network

1227
01:23:18,110 --> 01:23:23,030
connectivity and signal controllers and detectors. And then the second phase would be launching

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01:23:23,030 --> 01:23:26,930
a small-scale AV service along two main arterial roadways in the city.

1229
01:23:27,590 --> 01:23:32,270
And this includes performance measurement framework and a couple of other things in the plan

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01:23:32,270 --> 01:23:36,790
that can help us measure the program's effectiveness across several different variables,

1231
01:23:36,950 --> 01:23:41,030
which include financial success, sustainability, safety, ridership, and more.

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01:23:41,550 --> 01:23:46,110
So if successful and with available funding, they would be moving on to a third phase to expand.

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01:23:47,610 --> 01:23:52,050
And then just lastly, we want to also emphasize that we do have some other upcoming smart cities program

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01:23:52,050 --> 01:23:57,790
Some of you may be aware, but we are planning to release a smart city strategic plan RFP

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01:23:57,790 --> 01:23:58,910
in the coming few months.

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01:23:59,230 --> 01:24:04,270
We're really looking to bring together all this great work that we've been doing to comprehensively

1237
01:24:04,270 --> 01:24:09,210
help us outline and advance our efforts, moving forward for what smart technology can be,

1238
01:24:09,570 --> 01:24:12,630
how we integrate that, what other approaches we can be taking.

1239
01:24:13,090 --> 01:24:18,290
And then additionally, you know, we just implemented 2024 Connect SoCal.

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01:24:18,290 --> 01:24:23,230
We're looking at kicking off another sustainable community program right around the corner.

1241
01:24:23,530 --> 01:24:28,710
So thinking about other ways that we can be providing technical assistance and funding and resources to your community,

1242
01:24:29,230 --> 01:24:33,430
we will be doing another call for smart cities or mobility type projects.

1243
01:24:33,910 --> 01:24:37,150
And we're still very much in program development here in the early stages.

1244
01:24:37,150 --> 01:24:43,690
So this is the perfect time for us to be bringing this information to you and for us to collaborate together to better shape that program.

1245
01:24:43,790 --> 01:24:47,750
So that way, you know, everybody can get some easy wins there as well.

1246
01:24:47,750 --> 01:24:53,690
So that is it for me. My contact information is here, and hopefully we have a few minutes for questions. Thank you.

1247
01:24:53,990 --> 01:24:55,950
Thank you for the presentation. Very good.

1248
01:24:58,210 --> 01:25:03,910
Okay. We'll now entertain some of the members of the Transportation Committee and we'll go as Councilor Sanchez.

1249
01:25:05,130 --> 01:25:14,110
Thank you for that. Quick question on your eBike program. Is that the same as, like, Lyme and Bird just at the government-sponsored level?

1250
01:25:14,110 --> 01:25:17,670
Or is it similar or different or?

1251
01:25:17,990 --> 01:25:18,490
Great question.

1252
01:25:19,210 --> 01:25:23,490
They are similar, but I would say I think the biggest – well, there's two big differences.

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01:25:23,770 --> 01:25:29,110
One, this particular program doesn't have shared bicycle docking stations or lockers

1254
01:25:29,110 --> 01:25:29,930
or anything like that.

1255
01:25:30,030 --> 01:25:35,590
So there is a bit more of – a bit more requirement for the program partners that

1256
01:25:35,590 --> 01:25:39,030
have folks come in, take their applications, and then provide them with the bike, right?

1257
01:25:39,110 --> 01:25:43,090
So there's a little bit more, I would say, government support needed there.

1258
01:25:43,090 --> 01:25:49,430
And then the thing that also makes it a little bit different from Uber and line bikes and things like that is the pricing structure, right?

1259
01:25:49,650 --> 01:26:01,750
So this being a program run by a nonprofit and with the support of the city, they're able to subsidize the prices so that lower income folks, students, folks under six or over 65 things like that.

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01:26:01,830 --> 01:26:10,650
They can use these bikes at a lower price point than what you would typically be able to do on bikes, you know, with Lyft or Lyme or Uber or any of them.

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01:26:10,650 --> 01:26:12,490
So, I think those are the two big differences.

1262
01:26:15,460 --> 01:26:16,440
Thank you very much.

1263
01:26:17,220 --> 01:26:17,940
Anybody online?

1264
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:20,060
All right, nobody's online.

1265
01:26:20,820 --> 01:26:22,240
Thanks very much for your presentation.

1266
01:26:23,340 --> 01:26:26,080
Sorry, I have my script flipped, so now we're going to move to item number.

1267
01:26:27,340 --> 01:26:28,340
It'll be item 10.

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01:26:30,280 --> 01:26:33,160
Our zero mission is truck infrastructure studies and findings.

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01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:34,800
I'm back.

1270
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:39,400
I'll try that again. Good morning, everyone. Good to be back here presenting.

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01:26:40,940 --> 01:26:44,020
Do I have control yet?

1272
01:26:46,540 --> 01:26:46,980
There we go.

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01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:48,300
So I'm Jonathan Raspa.

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01:26:48,460 --> 01:26:50,140
I'm a senior regional planner.

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01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:51,240
What is going on here?

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01:26:52,020 --> 01:26:54,220
And the project manager for the ZETI project.

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01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,720
This is our final report out on this project.

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01:26:57,780 --> 01:27:01,800
So I'm glad to come back to you and talk to you about what we've been doing in the last couple of months.

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01:27:01,900 --> 01:27:05,520
So right away I'm just going to jump right into the results of this project.

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01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:08,480
A lot of the questions are around, you know, what's coming out of the simulation?

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01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:09,820
What does the analysis tell us?

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01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:11,140
What do we need to start building for?

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01:27:14,300 --> 01:27:21,360
So right here, this map here shows charging needs in 2030 for public peak hour demand.

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01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:23,560
That's really important, the way these sites are developed.

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01:27:23,940 --> 01:27:27,780
You don't need to try to build out a site that meets all of the demand all of once,

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01:27:27,920 --> 01:27:30,520
but only enough capacity to meet peak demand, right,

1287
01:27:30,620 --> 01:27:33,600
when you have the most power required to charge as many trucks,

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01:27:33,860 --> 01:27:35,760
say, in that one hour or two hour period.

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01:27:35,940 --> 01:27:37,020
So keep that in mind.

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01:27:37,180 --> 01:27:39,840
This is public charging sites and their peak demand.

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01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:47,020
So our energy modeling produced both peak hour energy demand as well as total energy requirements.

1292
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:54,060
But again, we're going to focus on peak demand since that's the primary constraint for developing these sites and what the grid needs to supply to them.

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01:27:54,780 --> 01:28:01,740
That really drives the number of charges you need on the site, how many trucks you can actually service, how large the site needs to be, et cetera.

1294
01:28:02,300 --> 01:28:08,100
So this map for 2030 is primarily focused around the Draage and Intermodal Activity Centers.

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01:28:08,180 --> 01:28:12,540
You can see Los Angeles, the Inland Empire, sort of North LA County as well.

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01:28:12,700 --> 01:28:14,960
Are they going to be the first markets to electrify?

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01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:20,520
Because that's where those truck operators are, where they're making their deliveries, their pickups, and operating.

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01:28:21,340 --> 01:28:24,620
So there's also a really big emphasis on medium-duty fleets.

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01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:28,640
This is primarily business-to-business activity, last-mile deliveries.

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01:28:29,200 --> 01:28:33,260
They're really more active in the urbanized areas, shorter trips, easier to electrify,

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01:28:33,440 --> 01:28:37,140
a really good opportunity in the near term to, you know, convert some of those truck

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01:28:37,140 --> 01:28:39,340
trips from diesel or gasoline to electric.

1303
01:28:39,560 --> 01:28:41,720
So that's also another quick win here.

1304
01:28:42,240 --> 01:28:45,540
And a lot of this initial capacity that's not on the public side that's going to

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01:28:45,540 --> 01:28:50,780
be private depots, they're standing up this additional truck charging capacity on

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01:28:50,780 --> 01:28:51,120
their own.

1307
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:54,740
It's private dollars, they're doing this, it's behind the fence.

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01:28:54,980 --> 01:28:58,140
There are some opportunities for shared sites, but a lot of them are not going

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01:28:58,140 --> 01:29:02,180
to be kind of like your typical gas station where any truck can just drive up and use

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01:29:02,180 --> 01:29:02,300
it.

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01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:06,700
They need to be part of a consortium, maybe have a membership or actually a truck that's

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01:29:06,700 --> 01:29:09,480
operated by that fleet before they can use that charger.

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01:29:12,180 --> 01:29:17,760
So then 2035, we kind of see some of that demand and capacity start to expand.

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01:29:17,900 --> 01:29:23,940
It roughly doubles in the next five years as more fleets electrify, longer distances

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01:29:23,940 --> 01:29:28,320
become possible with different technology changes, additional grid capacity coming

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01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:36,260
online. It primarily grows north towards the I-5 and some of the longer range kind of line haul

1317
01:29:36,260 --> 01:29:42,260
corridors out towards eastern California. So along the 10, along the 15, not really getting kind

1318
01:29:42,260 --> 01:29:46,420
of way out there towards the Nevada state line or Arizona. And we do see a little bit more growth

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01:29:46,420 --> 01:29:51,220
at the border crossings. There's other plans in Baja California to build out some electric

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01:29:51,220 --> 01:29:55,340
charging corridors in that country. And so there's going to be good interconnectivity there

1321
01:29:55,340 --> 01:29:59,700
where they can either charge at the border or finish their crossing and charge in Mexico.

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01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:05,840
And then, you know, make their return trip. So, but we're not quite at, you know, every

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01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:11,540
truck being electrified by 2035. And then by 2040, we basically see it double

1324
01:30:11,540 --> 01:30:16,820
again. So, again, that public peak hour capacity demand, just to throw a number out there, is

1325
01:30:16,820 --> 01:30:22,120
about 12 gigawatts of power. This is actually a pretty small amount of power relative to

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01:30:22,120 --> 01:30:27,000
what California produces and is able to supply on a daily basis. But again, the challenge

1327
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:31,560
is managing that peak demand in tandem with all of the other markets and industries and

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01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:36,740
sectors that use electricity, sometimes at the same time that trucks need it. At this point,

1329
01:30:36,940 --> 01:30:42,100
long-haul corridors are fully developed by 2040, so you're going to see a lot of increased demand

1330
01:30:42,100 --> 01:30:48,240
at some of these major junction points along the 15, I40, I10, a lot more activity at the

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01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:52,400
southern border. We don't include San Diego here in our analysis, but there's quite a bit

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01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:55,120
more activity there as well at their border crossings.

1333
01:30:56,380 --> 01:30:59,480
A lot of the demand really peaks in urbanized areas.

1334
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:04,000
Again, you can't forget about last mile delivery, package delivery, business to business activity,

1335
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:08,200
even some of the sort of transfer moves that happen between the ports, the warehouses

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01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:10,820
and different facilities that a business would be operating.

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01:31:11,500 --> 01:31:15,140
And then again, the warehousing districts in the inland empire and further east also

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01:31:15,140 --> 01:31:20,620
see a lot of growth as all of their equipment, right, in yard, short deliveries and then

1339
01:31:20,620 --> 01:31:22,320
long-haul operations are electrifying.

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01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:27,960
And it's important to understand that about 70% of that public demand that is going to

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01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:33,580
need to be supported is for long-haul operators and some of the regional trucks that don't

1342
01:31:33,580 --> 01:31:34,560
have a depot to charge at.

1343
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:37,720
So they're going to be most dependent on that, those public sites.

1344
01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:42,160
Private depots are going to supply a lot of the private fleets, you know, who go

1345
01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:45,820
back and recharge at night or have depot sites or maintenance sites along their

1346
01:31:45,820 --> 01:31:47,980
routes to charge at, as well as drage operators.

1347
01:31:47,980 --> 01:31:52,740
They've got a lot of opportunities to charge with shorter range requirements than the long-haul

1348
01:31:52,740 --> 01:31:54,900
sector that is really the biggest challenge here.

1349
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:59,000
These are all of the numbers for all the counties.

1350
01:31:59,460 --> 01:32:01,280
Here we're showing total energy demand.

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01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:05,980
This is in megawatts, but just to round up, you can just take that first number.

1352
01:32:06,680 --> 01:32:12,460
So in 2030, we're going to need a total of 5.8 gigawatts of power to charge all of

1353
01:32:12,460 --> 01:32:16,520
the trucks, and about 2.5 gigawatts of that will be required for public sites.

1354
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:21,540
You know, again, those long-haul operators, you know, early depots that aren't able to electrify in 2030,

1355
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:25,520
and then we sort of double just about to 13.1 gigawatts.

1356
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:30,200
This is kind of the biggest growth period that we see right here as a lot of fleets are required to come online.

1357
01:32:30,480 --> 01:32:35,120
This does take into account things like ACF and ACT, which when we did the modeling,

1358
01:32:35,420 --> 01:32:41,300
had not had their waivers withdrawn or, you know, sort of weren't in, like, a legislative or legal gray area the way they are now.

1359
01:32:41,300 --> 01:32:49,040
And then out in 2040, we see a total of 21.2 gigawatts for all of that charging and about 12 needed for public sites.

1360
01:32:49,660 --> 01:32:54,660
Again, a lot of that energy demand out in 2040 and beyond, it's those long haul trucks, right?

1361
01:32:54,740 --> 01:33:01,080
They need to fully deplete their battery and then fully charge at that site again and then go pretty much as far as they can.

1362
01:33:01,480 --> 01:33:08,200
We do take into account some things like range extension and technology improvements, but we were pretty conservative there.

1363
01:33:08,200 --> 01:33:14,520
I think less than 5% sort of 2030, 2035, 2040 where battery capacity is increasing, charging

1364
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:16,540
speeds are increasing, and range is extending.

1365
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:22,320
We want it to be not overly optimistic about the technology improving just because all

1366
01:33:22,320 --> 01:33:25,320
of the fleets that are buying this equipment, they don't go out and buy new trucks every

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01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:25,640
year.

1368
01:33:26,180 --> 01:33:30,080
In some cases, they're getting 10 or 15 or 20 years out of some of these trucks.

1369
01:33:30,780 --> 01:33:33,940
Some of it goes into the secondary market, but it doesn't happen overnight.

1370
01:33:33,940 --> 01:33:39,280
So the other thing that's really interesting is that utilities in the last couple of years

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01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:44,080
with early deployments have really learned how to deliver this to truck fleets.

1372
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:47,600
These are parties that are not used to talking to each other.

1373
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:52,500
Operators have no idea who to call, what information is needed when they go to talk to utility.

1374
01:33:53,260 --> 01:33:56,500
And the utilities don't really know what the needs of some of these truckers are.

1375
01:33:56,640 --> 01:34:00,300
And so they're sort of both learning from each other as they deliver some of these early sites.

1376
01:34:00,480 --> 01:34:01,920
And those lessons are being applied.

1377
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:07,920
So power delivery, while not perfect, should see some improvements as far as like timelines

1378
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:11,980
of the amount of energy they're able to deliver and how they can sort of meet needs with

1379
01:34:11,980 --> 01:34:13,240
managing demand on the grid.

1380
01:34:16,140 --> 01:34:18,060
Okay, so this is another important slide.

1381
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:21,540
So we're sort of drilling down here into San Bernardino County and looking at all of

1382
01:34:21,540 --> 01:34:24,260
the potential site locations in that particular county.

1383
01:34:24,900 --> 01:34:27,380
There's a lot of different ways you can implement this charging.

1384
01:34:27,380 --> 01:34:36,800
The region could prioritize a small number of high-power sites that can charge trucks quickly, turn them around, get them off site and get moving.

1385
01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:46,620
They could also focus on lower-power chargers, which have more space requirements, maybe a little bit kind of less peak demand, but it would need to change the operational patterns of the truck.

1386
01:34:46,740 --> 01:34:51,660
So a lot of that depends on what kind of lands available, what kind of grid capacity is available.

1387
01:34:51,660 --> 01:34:57,600
It's sort of what the goals of the jurisdiction or the fleet operated in the region want to do.

1388
01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:01,820
So here's sort of two examples in San Bernardino of meeting the same power requirements

1389
01:35:01,820 --> 01:35:05,060
with a different number of chargers at different power levels.

1390
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:08,500
One, the one on top uses a lot of lower power chargers.

1391
01:35:09,020 --> 01:35:10,500
And a lot of that equipment is available now.

1392
01:35:10,700 --> 01:35:13,120
It's commercial. It's off the shelf. It's easier to implement.

1393
01:35:13,320 --> 01:35:17,520
A lot of it's out there already. It's maybe not necessarily being used for trucks right now.

1394
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:23,880
I can charge my EV at a 150 kilowatt station near my house, so anyone can go out and do that.

1395
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:28,920
The one below it shows a deployment that focuses more on higher power charging,

1396
01:35:29,380 --> 01:35:36,360
so 350, 750 kilowatt hour and some what's called megawatt charging at one megawatt of power per

1397
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:41,820
hour. This is sort of what we see more out into the future in 2040 if you really want like a

1398
01:35:41,820 --> 01:35:45,940
workforce network that can serve anyone who pulls up to the charger. It's this deployment,

1399
01:35:45,940 --> 01:35:49,800
but it's more expensive. Some of the equipment is not available right now,

1400
01:35:50,000 --> 01:35:55,180
commercially or even in some cases, it's still in the lab, and there's a much higher cost.

1401
01:35:55,780 --> 01:36:00,360
So interestingly enough, we've been having a lot of conversations with fleet operators now

1402
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:06,360
who have zero mission fleets operating, and they've actually oversized their initial deployments

1403
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:10,500
to a degree. They sort of built out too much capacity out of concerns that, you know,

1404
01:36:10,620 --> 01:36:13,040
we're not going to have enough power, we're not going to have enough chargers,

1405
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:22,960
And now they have chargers sitting idle while they're able to charge their trucks faster than they thought. Get them out and back to base, you know, with less issues than they initially found.

1406
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:29,700
So they're actually looking for partners to come in and use their chargers while they're sitting idle, you know, what fits in with their operational patterns.

1407
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:37,560
And this is actually really key for early adoption and sort of getting a lot of this off the ground. Industry is really talking to each other.

1408
01:36:37,560 --> 01:36:40,480
folks who you think wouldn't, right, like major package carriers,

1409
01:36:41,020 --> 01:36:43,900
people who compete with each other on a daily basis are saying,

1410
01:36:43,960 --> 01:36:45,660
hey, we've got chargers here where you need them.

1411
01:36:45,980 --> 01:36:46,580
Come and use them.

1412
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:49,720
Let's come to an agreement and make sure that, you know,

1413
01:36:49,780 --> 01:36:52,920
we're getting the most out of this equipment that we've sunk a lot of capital into.

1414
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:55,560
So we're seeing these partnerships between carriers,

1415
01:36:55,820 --> 01:37:00,280
between shippers, warehouse operators, package delivery companies.

1416
01:37:00,480 --> 01:37:03,860
So this is a good sign that the industry is moving in this direction.

1417
01:37:04,020 --> 01:37:06,320
They're not, you know, sort of abandoning their plans

1418
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:09,640
or just sort of tapering things off, letting stuff sit idle.

1419
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:10,980
They really want to see this succeed.

1420
01:37:11,460 --> 01:37:15,440
And we've had those conversations consistently throughout this project

1421
01:37:15,440 --> 01:37:17,620
and other work we're doing where we always bring up,

1422
01:37:17,800 --> 01:37:20,160
hey, what's going on with you with zero-emission trucks?

1423
01:37:20,420 --> 01:37:22,160
Where are you? What's working? What isn't?

1424
01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:24,160
And this is the direction that they're heading into.

1425
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:26,580
So that's the energy simulation.

1426
01:37:26,840 --> 01:37:28,520
That was kind of the biggest lift in the project.

1427
01:37:28,680 --> 01:37:32,060
The other piece that we put together that sparked a lot of interest

1428
01:37:32,060 --> 01:37:35,060
among our partners is this site prioritization tool we developed.

1429
01:37:35,060 --> 01:37:40,120
So let me talk really quickly about what this tool isn't and what this tool is.

1430
01:37:40,240 --> 01:37:47,440
So it is not here to tell people who use it, you need to develop this site in this year with this many chargers,

1431
01:37:47,440 --> 01:37:49,560
because this is where the trucks are going to charge.

1432
01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:51,500
That's a little bit cart before the horse.

1433
01:37:51,940 --> 01:37:59,560
So it's really to help kind of screen down in different jurisdictions where are the best sort of areas or locations at a parcel level

1434
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:15,180
where you'd want to consider a sort of in-depth engineering analysis, sort of looking at your operation and seeing what fits your needs as a fleet operator or in some cases as a municipal site that would operate either for public truck charging or municipal fleets, right?

1435
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:19,440
Like, you know, cities have a lot of vehicles on their own that are transitioning to zero emission.

1436
01:38:20,020 --> 01:38:23,580
So higher scoring sites, this is like five to ten points.

1437
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:28,160
They tend to be where trucks already are, where there's larger amounts of power,

1438
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:32,880
along major industrial and commercial distribution centers, along key freight corridors.

1439
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:37,840
A lot of existing truck parking sites actually scored very low

1440
01:38:37,840 --> 01:38:43,300
because there was either insufficient grid capacity or they were located within disadvantaged communities.

1441
01:38:43,500 --> 01:38:48,840
We have ways to sort of tweak the criteria if there are different goals based on who's using this.

1442
01:38:48,840 --> 01:39:01,420
But the baseline set of criteria that was developed by our technical advisory committee, which was public agencies, industry, disadvantaged communities, and site operators sort of settled on sort of these requirements.

1443
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:11,120
And it was a deprioritizing site within disadvantaged communities to limit the effects of truck traffic, safety impacts that they were concerned about.

1444
01:39:11,120 --> 01:39:16,620
So, I mean, actually what it does is it prioritizes, like, adjacent to disadvantaged communities.

1445
01:39:16,860 --> 01:39:22,220
So there are still some benefits with zero-mission trucks coming in, but it doesn't necessarily go into those communities

1446
01:39:22,220 --> 01:39:25,280
and create some of the negative impacts from truck traffic directly.

1447
01:39:26,380 --> 01:39:32,040
Really quick recap, we had five main groups of siting criteria for EV charging and hydrogen-fueling infrastructure.

1448
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:39,880
So around utilization of the actual site, land characteristics, equity considerations, grid capacity, and environmental considerations.

1449
01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:43,720
things like truck trip generation at that specific parcel.

1450
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:47,560
The relation to disadvantaged communities, the price of land,

1451
01:39:48,080 --> 01:39:51,060
the amount of truck parking or distributed energy integration,

1452
01:39:51,280 --> 01:39:54,520
things like solar panels, battery backup systems,

1453
01:39:54,720 --> 01:39:56,460
or hydrogen fuel cells were also considered.

1454
01:39:57,580 --> 01:40:01,280
I'm not going to show you the list of 17-plus screening and criteria.

1455
01:40:01,700 --> 01:40:04,720
We don't have enough time to go over all of that, but it's all in the report.

1456
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:08,240
So we analyzed five million parcels in the SCAG region.

1457
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:13,520
Only about 10, a little less than 10%, so 460,000 met the criteria.

1458
01:40:14,060 --> 01:40:18,640
This was based, again, on the tax input on sort of what their goals were for this tool,

1459
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:20,160
but these criteria are adjustable.

1460
01:40:20,380 --> 01:40:25,880
If we just want to focus on one or two items for some specific goals, that's actually possible.

1461
01:40:26,860 --> 01:40:32,180
So 300,000 of those 460 met both land use and the space needed for this.

1462
01:40:32,240 --> 01:40:35,720
There's no point in developing a truck charging site where you can only fit one or two trucks.

1463
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:39,440
You want to be able to charge five, 10, 20, 50, 100 in some cases.

1464
01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:43,080
So, we had some size constraints there that we incorporated as well.

1465
01:40:43,920 --> 01:40:46,280
That energy demand is concentrated in a few locations.

1466
01:40:46,500 --> 01:40:49,560
You can see kind of zero to one in terms of energy demand.

1467
01:40:49,660 --> 01:40:50,700
That's the lowest score.

1468
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:52,560
There's a lot of parcels in that area.

1469
01:40:52,640 --> 01:40:56,940
So, you can see there's a lot of concentration sort of in just a few parcels throughout

1470
01:40:56,940 --> 01:40:57,440
the region.

1471
01:40:59,000 --> 01:41:02,820
The other thing to keep in mind is most of the sites, they don't have the load

1472
01:41:02,820 --> 01:41:04,120
hosting capacity currently.

1473
01:41:04,120 --> 01:41:08,380
This is a lot of power at a single location that you would normally see associated with

1474
01:41:08,380 --> 01:41:14,320
something like a steel furnace or some sort of power generation.

1475
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:19,060
So it's a lot of power, again, concentrated at the peak, but your average parcel doesn't

1476
01:41:19,060 --> 01:41:22,900
have the capacity, but there's about 4,500 with partial capacity.

1477
01:41:23,160 --> 01:41:27,980
Again, this is sort of like an early opportunity here, and 822 that have the full capacity

1478
01:41:27,980 --> 01:41:31,200
to host the demand that's needed at that site right now.

1479
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:42,140
So this could really be explored to meet current energy demand, sort of near term fleet deployment, some of the smaller installations maybe don't use up all of the hosting capacity available at once.

1480
01:41:42,500 --> 01:41:52,400
But sort of focus on building this out, showing proof of concept and building support within each operations fleet management team to make this succeed.

1481
01:41:53,180 --> 01:41:57,120
The other interesting thing is that charging demand and load capacity don't overlap.

1482
01:41:57,400 --> 01:42:01,120
If you looked at those maps, we sort of had larger areas where we were assessing demand,

1483
01:42:01,280 --> 01:42:05,140
and that was to provide flexibility to, you know, not focus on, you know,

1484
01:42:05,220 --> 01:42:07,280
we know what the demand is right here.

1485
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:10,960
There may have been a site next door that we didn't include in that analysis,

1486
01:42:11,100 --> 01:42:15,460
so we sort of zoomed out a little bit to look at what the demand was in a larger area,

1487
01:42:15,460 --> 01:42:18,880
and then there's a lot of little sites within there in the partial screening tool

1488
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:22,780
that let us find opportunities within the overall demand in the region.

1489
01:42:23,980 --> 01:42:30,020
Most of the demand, according to the fleets and operators we've been talking to, has been depot-based.

1490
01:42:30,360 --> 01:42:34,120
They're running pilots, they've been doing this for some 10-plus years,

1491
01:42:34,420 --> 01:42:37,200
and they're really testing this out and seeing what works, what doesn't,

1492
01:42:37,380 --> 01:42:39,620
learning those lessons, and we're in conversations with them.

1493
01:42:39,700 --> 01:42:44,180
So we're learning from them what works, what markets are sort of ready for this

1494
01:42:44,180 --> 01:42:45,720
and what needs more work.

1495
01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:54,600
Public sites, based on their experience, our outreach and this analysis are really going to need to be there to support long-haul markets.

1496
01:42:54,780 --> 01:43:00,160
These trucks don't have a fixed base. They come into the region. They make their delivery. They need to charge, and then they leave.

1497
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:07,720
And then there's a lot of small operators, one, two, maybe up to five or six trucks, where they're not parking at a depot at night.

1498
01:43:07,860 --> 01:43:14,680
They're either leasing space or, in many cases, parking at their home where they either can't install charging in a high enough capacity or they live in an apartment.

1499
01:43:14,680 --> 01:43:16,780
They rent. They don't have the ability to do that.

1500
01:43:16,900 --> 01:43:21,820
And so they'll rely on these public sites to charge their truck up and get their work done.

1501
01:43:21,880 --> 01:43:26,060
And they sort of serve all markets within the region. They tend to not be long-haul.

1502
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:32,600
I want to show three quick examples out of the tool to sort of look at how we're assessing different areas within the region.

1503
01:43:32,960 --> 01:43:37,820
So this is just south of downtown LA, near some rail infrastructure, some warehousing.

1504
01:43:37,920 --> 01:43:43,880
There's a USPS facility there, and it's adjacent to rail yards, intermodal facilities, a lot of industrial warehousing.

1505
01:43:43,880 --> 01:43:46,500
This is kind of like the prime site for early deployment.

1506
01:43:46,620 --> 01:43:47,640
There's a lot of power here.

1507
01:43:47,740 --> 01:43:48,540
There's a lot of demand.

1508
01:43:48,900 --> 01:43:53,120
And the infrastructure, you know, would serve a lot of uses in close proximity,

1509
01:43:53,140 --> 01:43:56,820
or even a single location that just has a lot of demand already.

1510
01:43:57,440 --> 01:44:00,220
This is another area in Rancho Dominguez off the 110.

1511
01:44:00,500 --> 01:44:01,660
This is a little bit further south.

1512
01:44:01,900 --> 01:44:03,340
Kind of in the Gateway Cog area.

1513
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:05,660
This is more of a scattered site example.

1514
01:44:05,820 --> 01:44:08,640
You couldn't install really large facilities here.

1515
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:13,280
But if every location on this map had two to maybe 10 chargers at most,

1516
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:16,800
that's kind of what they could support. You could serve a lot of demand in this region.

1517
01:44:16,900 --> 01:44:22,120
There's a lot of activity that's serving local goods movement consumption, as well as sort of

1518
01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:27,180
regional, statewide, and even national. So this is a pretty busy area. It's sort of a

1519
01:44:27,180 --> 01:44:31,900
lot of different businesses of a lot of different sizes. And so scattered site works here and the

1520
01:44:31,900 --> 01:44:36,440
sort of barrier to entry is much lower. A third thing that the Hool did where it sort

1521
01:44:36,440 --> 01:44:40,800
of didn't really hit the mark, but we have that local context and understanding of freight

1522
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:45,180
in the region is this is near the Ontario airport. If you live in this area, go

1523
01:44:45,180 --> 01:44:48,040
through this area, you know there's a ton of warehousing, a ton of freight

1524
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:51,460
activity. A lot of these sites didn't score highly just because they didn't

1525
01:44:51,460 --> 01:44:56,460
have the load capacity, the available truck parking, or sort of other

1526
01:44:57,020 --> 01:44:59,960
considerations within the tool. Again, we can adjust these

1527
01:45:05,000 --> 01:45:18,320
So, we can sort of combine the tool with local understanding of what's going on and then work with those jurisdictions to help them plan for the infrastructure that they need.

1528
01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:25,780
So, again, low scores don't necessarily mean you don't need infrastructure there. It's just it doesn't meet the initial criteria that our project developed.

1529
01:45:26,180 --> 01:45:28,320
So, that's why we need to work with those local jurisdictions.

1530
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:33,380
The last thing that's really tricky about this is this is a really new industry.

1531
01:45:33,620 --> 01:45:35,960
This is a really new type of construction for a lot of the operators.

1532
01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:37,920
It's not something they typically build.

1533
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:43,320
And so we actually get to learn from them learning about the site development

1534
01:45:43,320 --> 01:45:45,360
and the permitting and construction process.

1535
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:50,180
In a lot of cases, they made a lot of mistakes early on.

1536
01:45:50,540 --> 01:45:53,360
And so they didn't know how, like I said, they didn't know how to engage with utilities,

1537
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:55,680
ask the right questions to develop their site.

1538
01:45:55,680 --> 01:46:01,120
They built too much capacity or just couldn't get the capacity that they needed from the grid operator.

1539
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:07,120
So a lot of them actually encourage delays that were just sort of related to normal construction, right?

1540
01:46:07,320 --> 01:46:10,140
Another contractor was busy. There were delays and deliveries.

1541
01:46:10,460 --> 01:46:15,380
Kind of like any public's work project, there can sometimes be start and stop based on the type of project.

1542
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:19,240
And so they're coordinating multiple contractors out of different industries.

1543
01:46:20,260 --> 01:46:26,520
This sort of cascade through the timeline, especially if there's delays, usually it wasn't on permitting but the actual procurement process.

1544
01:46:26,760 --> 01:46:32,320
They're buying equipment they've never had to buy before, not just the electric trucks but, you know, meters, transformers,

1545
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:36,460
laying a wire into the ground and pouring that concrete.

1546
01:46:36,600 --> 01:46:37,860
So this is a new area for them.

1547
01:46:38,820 --> 01:46:43,340
The biggest constraint, I would say, again, is getting that power to that site.

1548
01:46:43,340 --> 01:46:50,320
The way that truck fleets operate, they plan maybe one to two years in the future at most for their equipment and vendor needs.

1549
01:46:50,660 --> 01:46:53,520
Public utilities, they plan on a five to ten-year scale.

1550
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:55,360
It takes them longer to deliver that.

1551
01:46:55,500 --> 01:46:57,000
They require a lot of upfront investment.

1552
01:46:57,280 --> 01:47:04,140
And so that being said, the utilities, they are learning and figuring out sort of where they need to get power ahead of time.

1553
01:47:04,160 --> 01:47:09,920
There's a lot of sort of other research and private agreements between folks like SCE, LADWP,

1554
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:13,780
large package operators, large fleets where they're actually sharing information

1555
01:47:13,780 --> 01:47:18,440
and telling the utilities, here's where we plan something in one to two years,

1556
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:22,380
or maybe three or four, what can you do in the near term to help us support that?

1557
01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:25,340
So there's actually some really good partnerships and coordination going on

1558
01:47:25,340 --> 01:47:29,140
that are supporting sort of a fast deployment of a lot of this infrastructure.

1559
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:32,200
Some are also utilizing portable power.

1560
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:36,720
They basically think of a battery the size of a container, so 28 feet long.

1561
01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:42,700
They'll park it on site, they can stand up four chargers with 150 kilowatts of power in about a day and a half.

1562
01:47:43,180 --> 01:47:51,100
And so that can help bridge either peak demand during the day or service like a waypoint where maybe they can't deploy a charging solution,

1563
01:47:51,300 --> 01:47:54,520
but they know their trucks are getting out there and are going to need to charge in that area.

1564
01:47:54,640 --> 01:47:59,060
So there's some sort of bridge solutions and temporary deployments that we're seeing installed.

1565
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:04,480
And this is in California and then in other areas like Arizona and Texas where they have other pilots going on.

1566
01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:11,800
And then the last piece I want to talk about is sort of this is all happening in a sort

1567
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:14,740
of shifting policy environment and we need to be cognizant of that.

1568
01:48:14,960 --> 01:48:20,580
Like I said, a lot of the analysis was done with ACT, ACF and current incentives in place.

1569
01:48:21,180 --> 01:48:25,840
California's withdrawn their ACF waiver from the EPA rulemaking process.

1570
01:48:26,020 --> 01:48:30,100
The Senate is trying to roll back ACT and other California requirements around clean

1571
01:48:30,100 --> 01:48:32,140
trucks, pull back incentive money.

1572
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:35,760
The state is still moving ahead with its own incentive programs.

1573
01:48:35,940 --> 01:48:40,080
They're sort of figuring out how to navigate the current policy and political environment,

1574
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:43,300
and they haven't rolled out and shared all of their plans yet,

1575
01:48:43,340 --> 01:48:46,420
but we're in close contact with them so that we're aware of what's coming

1576
01:48:46,420 --> 01:48:48,680
so we can advise all of our regional partners.

1577
01:48:49,500 --> 01:48:53,960
Interestingly enough, in a lot of our conversations with fleets, with OEMs,

1578
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:58,240
with warehousing operators, they understand that truck manufacturing

1579
01:48:58,240 --> 01:49:00,320
is really going in this direction no matter what.

1580
01:49:00,320 --> 01:49:03,040
But truck OEMs, they're global companies.

1581
01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:08,200
They want to develop a global product, manufacture it locally, but they don't want to have ten

1582
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:11,820
different models and ten different powertrains, you know, for ten different countries throughout

1583
01:49:11,820 --> 01:49:12,260
the world.

1584
01:49:12,440 --> 01:49:15,560
So the rest of the world is moving towards zero-emission trucks.

1585
01:49:16,560 --> 01:49:17,540
The OEMs see that.

1586
01:49:17,740 --> 01:49:19,540
They still support their legacy diesel models.

1587
01:49:19,700 --> 01:49:23,320
They see opportunities for clean diesel in the future, but they know in the medium

1588
01:49:23,320 --> 01:49:25,320
and long term it's going to be zero-emission trucks.

1589
01:49:25,440 --> 01:49:29,420
One of the examples they gave was manual transmissions in the 60s and the 70s.

1590
01:49:29,420 --> 01:49:35,540
Truckers wouldn't drive a truck unless it was a manual transmission. They were like no way know how am I going to drive an automatic transmission?

1591
01:49:35,960 --> 01:49:39,900
We talked to Mac a couple of days ago. They manufactured trucks globally

1592
01:49:40,600 --> 01:49:45,420
They had a demo project where they had to go out and get a truck and practice on a manual transmission

1593
01:49:45,420 --> 01:49:50,420
And they couldn't find one in their demo fleet in any of their fleets that they'd sold to other operators

1594
01:49:50,420 --> 01:49:53,860
So that the change is there's a lot of resistance at first, but it happens

1595
01:49:53,860 --> 01:49:58,980
They see a similar perception with their customers around zero mission trucks that there's resistance

1596
01:49:59,420 --> 01:50:03,860
It's expensive. There's a lot of learning that has to happen, but they see it as the future.

1597
01:50:05,500 --> 01:50:12,200
So, and just some quick numbers really here. China sold 82,000 EV trucks in 2024. Europe

1598
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:20,540
sold 3,400. There were 1,476 electric trucks sold in the U.S. and almost all of those were

1599
01:50:20,540 --> 01:50:25,060
in California. So even if it doesn't come to the rest of the country, it is slowly but surely

1600
01:50:25,060 --> 01:50:31,040
coming here. So the carriers are also not interested in, like I said, in sort of

1601
01:50:31,040 --> 01:50:35,140
reversing these significant investments that they've made, right? They've learned

1602
01:50:35,140 --> 01:50:38,200
a lot. They've spent a lot of money. They've run a lot of pilots. They don't

1603
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:41,080
want to say they don't want to drop it and turn around and say we don't want

1604
01:50:41,080 --> 01:50:44,600
this anymore. Their customers want it. More importantly, a lot of the

1605
01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:48,060
shippers and carriers are global companies. They have pressure from other

1606
01:50:48,060 --> 01:50:51,520
stakeholders around the world. They have environmental and sustainability

1607
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:54,940
commitments that they've made, and so they're moving forward with this.

1608
01:50:55,440 --> 01:50:58,960
And we also see a lot of other states sort of following California's lead,

1609
01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:03,700
if not a sort of full-throated reproduction of ACF and ACT,

1610
01:51:04,200 --> 01:51:07,480
they're adopting parts of those rules and deploying them, you know,

1611
01:51:07,480 --> 01:51:11,220
within their own jurisdiction. So there's parity in other parts of the country

1612
01:51:11,220 --> 01:51:13,620
that will support sort of the long-term development of this.

1613
01:51:14,540 --> 01:51:17,800
And then the last piece is what SCAG is doing with its own work.

1614
01:51:17,960 --> 01:51:21,160
So there's a lot of overlap with this in some of our future projects.

1615
01:51:21,160 --> 01:51:27,480
So, the last mile freight program, that's a program focused on medium duty truck electrification incentives.

1616
01:51:28,380 --> 01:51:35,580
Like I said, that's a really big opportunity to address some of the shorter range VMT and emissions that come from medium duty trucks.

1617
01:51:35,860 --> 01:51:37,120
It's half the demand in the region.

1618
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:45,780
Our on the move project, so an update to our comprehensive sustainable freight plan, that's going to have a zero emissions vehicle technology assessment.

1619
01:51:45,780 --> 01:51:47,520
So what's the state of current technology?

1620
01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:51,460
And that's going to include things, not just trucks and charging, but sort of management systems.

1621
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:56,200
There's a lot of questions around autonomous electric or, you know, driverless trucks.

1622
01:51:56,340 --> 01:51:57,640
And so we're going to look at some of those things.

1623
01:51:58,260 --> 01:52:05,720
We're also working just with the outputs from this project to sort of disaggregate that regional demand and zoom into specific jurisdictions,

1624
01:52:06,020 --> 01:52:07,720
specific areas where we know there's interest.

1625
01:52:08,300 --> 01:52:12,720
A lot of our regional partners are reaching out and are curious about the data we've developed.

1626
01:52:12,720 --> 01:52:16,380
They want to understand things like local energy demand,

1627
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:18,680
workforce development requirements or opportunities,

1628
01:52:19,140 --> 01:52:21,160
and that includes, you know, Metro, SPCTA.

1629
01:52:21,860 --> 01:52:24,020
Some of the utilities want to know what we're seeing,

1630
01:52:24,100 --> 01:52:27,340
so they can sort of adequately plan for grid development.

1631
01:52:28,900 --> 01:52:30,140
We've also talked to, actually,

1632
01:52:30,240 --> 01:52:31,660
we recently talked to a hydrogen developer,

1633
01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:34,580
SoCal Gas, wanted to understand hydrogen demand

1634
01:52:34,580 --> 01:52:36,380
so they could plan for some of their facilities.

1635
01:52:36,960 --> 01:52:39,640
And then we're also talking with freight operators, OEM,

1636
01:52:39,820 --> 01:52:41,700
so that they understand what's happening

1637
01:52:41,700 --> 01:52:46,740
to the public process so they're not duplicating or overlapping their efforts with our own.

1638
01:52:47,400 --> 01:52:50,720
And like I said, we're talking to our regional partners, we're talking to local jurisdictions

1639
01:52:51,300 --> 01:52:56,080
so that we can apply our analysis to their specific needs, tailoring the process of prioritization,

1640
01:52:56,360 --> 01:53:01,480
kind of unpacking site and charger requirements within their jurisdiction to help them plan

1641
01:53:01,480 --> 01:53:06,300
for this, set land aside, make investments, and support what is coming for the future.

1642
01:53:06,820 --> 01:53:10,800
So that was a lot in a really short amount of time, but I'm happy to take any questions

1643
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:12,640
questions now or follow-up later on?

1644
01:53:12,640 --> 01:53:13,600
Well, we ran out of time.

1645
01:53:13,780 --> 01:53:15,360
We have to clear the room for Regent and Council.

1646
01:53:15,820 --> 01:53:18,760
Everybody that has their hands up or their cards up, we're going to make sure

1647
01:53:18,760 --> 01:53:22,400
you get the presenter's information, and so you can email questions to him directly.

1648
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:23,240
Yes.

1649
01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:24,560
Thank you all for coming to the meeting.

1650
01:53:24,820 --> 01:53:27,720
I want to remind everybody that we're going to be dark in July and August.

1651
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:30,740
That's why this meeting went a little long, so we crammed a lot of stuff into it.

1652
01:53:31,520 --> 01:53:37,000
So we'll see you back in September, and the meeting is now adjourned.