1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,920 All right. Welcome everyone. You guys come up, please. 2 00:00:11,340 --> 00:00:28,500 Review of the annex building renovation plans. So this, um, yeah, we've been building here. We need to take care of it. Um, I know no one really looked part of the plans and for a site layout. 3 00:00:31,020 --> 00:00:35,780 Yeah, 10 years ago, we haven't even had that as sort of a passion of growth. 4 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:51,020 And before we send everything out, we wanted to make sure that everybody was going to sign it. 5 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,840 I think we're going to open up everyone's veins, right? 6 00:00:54,940 --> 00:00:55,680 The sign is on name. 7 00:00:56,580 --> 00:00:58,520 And make sure this is it. 8 00:01:00,860 --> 00:01:03,240 The next week, we don't want to hear from you, right? 9 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,740 Yes, that is correct. Okay, so go ahead. 10 00:01:06,420 --> 00:01:10,460 All right, so what we talked about last time is that before we can move forward 11 00:01:10,460 --> 00:01:15,280 with trying to get plans and specs done for the complete renovation as building, 12 00:01:15,700 --> 00:01:22,380 we have to agree and lock where departments are going to be at the end of this renovation process. 13 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,400 I didn't distribute drawings because the drawings that we have 14 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:30,520 are in Hodgepodge of about 150 different scenarios, not what you agree with each other. 15 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:36,120 So I have maps here in case you need something visual to talk about, but basically the 16 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:41,960 nuts and bolts of where departments go under this whole plan that's been developed over the last 17 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:51,900 10 years is in these bullets where the first move where you know would essentially be to 18 00:01:51,900 --> 00:01:59,740 re completely renovate the bank area. That bank area would accommodate the town clerk, 19 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:06,500 records management, and a new office for the trustees. So for a town hall, 20 00:02:06,740 --> 00:02:12,260 you'd be moving the clerk and records management out of the town hall into the bank area, 21 00:02:12,260 --> 00:02:18,020 which opens up their space for other offices to move into. 22 00:02:18,920 --> 00:02:25,820 The current plan is to use the court office area as the town attorney's office. 23 00:02:26,060 --> 00:02:27,220 That would be the consolidate. 24 00:02:27,540 --> 00:02:31,500 It's a right now that attorneys are split up into the main office and that little satellite 25 00:02:31,500 --> 00:02:32,020 office. 26 00:02:32,580 --> 00:02:34,720 All of them would move to that location. 27 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,480 Next door is records management. 28 00:02:37,820 --> 00:02:40,900 That would be where code enforcement would move into. 29 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,740 They're currently located in the second four of the annex. 30 00:02:43,740 --> 00:02:48,220 So then that would fully occupy the space that's vacated in town hall. 31 00:02:49,340 --> 00:02:55,240 So for the annex that building were currently in, the bank area again would be renovated. 32 00:02:55,660 --> 00:02:57,700 Quirk moves in there, records management. 33 00:02:58,300 --> 00:03:02,920 There's a couple of other conference rooms and other amenities that we don't need to get into, 34 00:03:03,140 --> 00:03:08,700 but the trustees would also get a new office there and they would move to there. 35 00:03:11,260 --> 00:03:17,380 The ZBA, which was currently next to the trustees on the first floor, now they would move 36 00:03:17,380 --> 00:03:24,500 to the relocated space of the town attorneys on the second floor, but the main office 37 00:03:24,500 --> 00:03:24,920 only. 38 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:29,200 That still represents a doubling of their floor area, so that should be all that they need. 39 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:35,120 And then the space that's vacated by the current trustees in ZBA, that would be the building 40 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:41,860 Department expands into those areas to cover offices for a part-time personnel which are currently 41 00:03:41,860 --> 00:03:47,620 floating around the annex. Then that leaves the second floor of the annex where again 42 00:03:48,300 --> 00:03:56,280 Town Attorney's office has now the main office has become ZBA. The secondary office which currently 43 00:03:56,280 --> 00:04:02,780 houses part of the Town Attorney's would be it's adjacent to the controller so we'd knock down that 44 00:04:02,780 --> 00:04:09,800 wall and then we'd expand that to accommodate them. The code enforcement, which is currently 45 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:16,040 located in the second floor, would have moved under this scenario. Their space remains open. 46 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:22,600 During all the iterations that we did, the town historian was still located there and there was 47 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:27,620 not anticipated that the town historian would move. So right now we don't have a purpose for that, 48 00:04:27,620 --> 00:04:35,060 that's flex space we can leave it open or someone can suggest a move we're good with either it's 49 00:04:35,060 --> 00:04:41,800 there's no there's no restriction to really open go in there and then there you are about that 50 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:48,140 great thank you John yeah and then there are no changes planned to the planning or land preservation 51 00:04:48,140 --> 00:04:52,740 department discussions with everyone there they said they're happy with the space they have in the 52 00:04:52,740 --> 00:04:59,740 layout that they have. And so that would be the sum total of the moves, would use the 53 00:04:59,740 --> 00:05:05,900 space better, and would give everybody at least more space than they have now. 54 00:05:06,220 --> 00:05:13,660 What's the nature of the upgrades? The physical nature, I mean the AC, the heat, the plumbing 55 00:05:13,660 --> 00:05:14,000 though. 56 00:05:15,100 --> 00:05:20,660 All right, so that's a separate issue from who's going where? So then if you want to get 57 00:05:20,660 --> 00:05:23,680 into the nuts and bolts of what a complete renovation would look like. 58 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,680 Can we go back to the space? 59 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:27,880 You signed it already? 60 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:29,440 I didn't sign that. 61 00:05:30,580 --> 00:05:32,080 I've just two quick questions. 62 00:05:32,620 --> 00:05:36,820 You alluded to other meeting rooms where the clerk is going. 63 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:42,500 Are those for committee meetings, public meetings, like one of their spaces will be in that 64 00:05:42,500 --> 00:05:43,560 main area you said? 65 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:44,900 Whatever you want to use it for. 66 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:49,160 Right now, it's planned, I break out that again, drawing. 67 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,600 Yeah, that's pretty brief. 68 00:05:50,660 --> 00:05:51,520 This is the one that's... 69 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:52,300 Sorry, but I... 70 00:05:52,300 --> 00:05:54,440 Yeah, I said something about what those things are. 71 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,380 You can look and you take the safety deposit box at their end. 72 00:05:58,900 --> 00:06:02,540 So obviously this was one of the meeting rooms that was added, the one that we're currently 73 00:06:02,540 --> 00:06:03,440 sitting in. 74 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:04,460 We're going to fill the room. 75 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:11,370 And so this is the annexed bank area. 76 00:06:12,930 --> 00:06:15,630 This is an existing small meeting room. 77 00:06:15,630 --> 00:06:21,990 And then these two spaces would be created as additional meeting rooms. 78 00:06:22,650 --> 00:06:38,850 And part of the whole plan would be developing a sequencing of how to work at stun, who moves where this type of flex phase could be built out into temporary offices so that people could be moved into it while they're renovated and then to look back out. 79 00:06:38,850 --> 00:06:41,230 and storage area of files, temperament, 80 00:06:42,110 --> 00:06:42,830 and so staging. 81 00:06:43,830 --> 00:06:47,510 Fortunately, for file storage, we have more than enough. 82 00:06:48,050 --> 00:06:49,630 I get the basement plan. 83 00:06:50,030 --> 00:06:52,410 We are done with the basement renovation. 84 00:06:53,590 --> 00:06:55,250 Other than the hotel room, 85 00:06:57,510 --> 00:06:58,210 the living room, 86 00:07:01,130 --> 00:07:02,830 everything you see here, 87 00:07:03,090 --> 00:07:05,070 this is the comfort room or current land. 88 00:07:05,890 --> 00:07:06,950 This is next to us. 89 00:07:07,110 --> 00:07:11,930 All of this area is all renovated and available for storage. 90 00:07:11,930 --> 00:07:15,910 This will open up once the police department is billed, because this is the PD files. 91 00:07:16,670 --> 00:07:19,630 So we do not lack for storage, that's the good thing. 92 00:07:20,110 --> 00:07:23,930 And I know that the clerks in the process are trying to cut down on files, and we talked 93 00:07:23,930 --> 00:07:28,930 about re-digitizing, so that hopefully when this eventually takes place, there will be far 94 00:07:28,930 --> 00:07:30,410 less space to move into. 95 00:07:31,010 --> 00:07:38,030 And all the downstairs with the HVAC and everything is good, so the storage would be in control. 96 00:07:40,230 --> 00:07:46,670 of this renovation plan would be a complete HVAC renovation of the entire building, including 97 00:07:46,670 --> 00:07:52,570 specific climate control devices for these spaces that would be used for record storage. 98 00:07:53,270 --> 00:08:01,550 And the reason we're talking about this is because about a month ago, I saw the work that was being done on the HVAC system 99 00:08:01,550 --> 00:08:05,330 and it was clear that we shouldn't move the clerk over, 100 00:08:05,570 --> 00:08:07,010 because that was the plan to move the clerk, 101 00:08:07,690 --> 00:08:10,270 and then we would start to renovate. 102 00:08:10,550 --> 00:08:12,610 And right now, we have all the room to stage, 103 00:08:12,850 --> 00:08:13,730 all the other departments, 104 00:08:13,990 --> 00:08:15,210 while the renovations being done, 105 00:08:15,810 --> 00:08:17,190 and then move the clerk in. 106 00:08:17,670 --> 00:08:18,470 So we don't want to, 107 00:08:18,630 --> 00:08:20,330 we want to do it as orderly as possible, 108 00:08:20,330 --> 00:08:21,010 and that's why we're, 109 00:08:21,190 --> 00:08:22,090 that's why we're here. 110 00:08:22,170 --> 00:08:24,310 It's a different plan than just moving the clerk. 111 00:08:24,970 --> 00:08:27,150 Another minor question that I know has come up 112 00:08:27,150 --> 00:08:29,930 every meeting about a staff break room, 113 00:08:39,410 --> 00:08:50,590 So under there, this is currently labeled as lounge, so this area here, which is the 114 00:08:50,590 --> 00:08:56,370 little wood paneled area in the bank, that would be taken and incorporate the existing 115 00:08:56,370 --> 00:08:57,510 bathroom into a break. 116 00:08:57,510 --> 00:08:59,890 We'll catch in for the chef. We're gonna hire. 117 00:09:02,410 --> 00:09:03,610 Yes, we are 118 00:09:04,790 --> 00:09:07,750 The chef's belly parking all the bells and whistles. 119 00:09:08,630 --> 00:09:10,950 All these locations make a lot of sense. 120 00:09:10,990 --> 00:09:13,190 Yeah, but I would be very comfortable signing this call. 121 00:09:13,450 --> 00:09:14,010 Me too. 122 00:09:14,690 --> 00:09:15,170 Yes. 123 00:09:15,850 --> 00:09:16,490 We too. 124 00:09:16,750 --> 00:09:17,350 That's good. 125 00:09:17,810 --> 00:09:18,710 Okay. Thank you. 126 00:09:19,290 --> 00:09:20,550 You heard it, right? 127 00:09:20,790 --> 00:09:21,230 You're on record. 128 00:09:21,950 --> 00:09:24,090 I'm going to be like you to produce it. 129 00:09:24,250 --> 00:09:25,130 You know, I'm going to go. 130 00:09:25,130 --> 00:09:29,210 Well, those are my 10 minutes. I'm sending out an email and then next week 131 00:09:29,210 --> 00:09:34,850 I'm the next board meeting. You'll see resolutions go on at things we'll get moving. So unless I hear otherwise 132 00:09:34,850 --> 00:09:43,610 This is what they're going to do it. I do it before we use our minds. Why do you have me where you are, right? 133 00:09:43,870 --> 00:09:48,430 I mean, so you you've moved to a new location and that's working one my happiness is a role 134 00:09:48,430 --> 00:09:54,370 Well, I mean it turns out that there's a lot of 135 00:09:54,370 --> 00:10:00,710 location, please, for the role that you're probably not might get my feeling has 136 00:10:00,710 --> 00:10:06,330 always been that that actually get knocked down so that we can reconfigure the 137 00:10:06,330 --> 00:10:11,730 parking lot to be more efficient. And if necessary, use it as a space. If these 138 00:10:11,730 --> 00:10:15,950 renovations trigger the requirement to upgrade the sanitary, that would be the 139 00:10:15,950 --> 00:10:21,150 perfect location to build the new sanitary in parallel with the existing one so 140 00:10:21,150 --> 00:10:22,690 that there's no loss of service. 141 00:10:23,230 --> 00:10:24,610 So then I guess my question is, 142 00:10:24,790 --> 00:10:26,790 where would all of yours, 143 00:10:28,030 --> 00:10:30,810 your operations move in that standard town board room 144 00:10:30,810 --> 00:10:32,130 and we do is our town board room? 145 00:10:32,290 --> 00:10:32,690 Is that big? 146 00:10:32,850 --> 00:10:33,950 And I mean, just want to go back, 147 00:10:34,210 --> 00:10:35,130 we're at DFW, 148 00:10:35,270 --> 00:10:38,830 and I just, is there a place for that in the... 149 00:10:38,830 --> 00:10:41,410 They're, I'm sure you invite space right now, 150 00:10:41,730 --> 00:10:43,970 I'm less concerned about providing space 151 00:10:43,970 --> 00:10:47,130 for a town engineer than the board providing a town engineer. 152 00:10:47,810 --> 00:10:48,630 Well, we're getting, we're getting, 153 00:10:48,930 --> 00:10:49,550 we're getting, we're getting, we're getting, 154 00:10:52,450 --> 00:11:04,910 We have a good plan here going forward and I think one thing that I'm sorry one thing that has to have been talked about this with Eric is the parking here. 155 00:11:05,650 --> 00:11:11,090 Right now a lot of if you come here to park the public access limited because all the town vehicles there. 156 00:11:11,770 --> 00:11:17,870 So we're going to we're going to redirect town vehicle to park elsewhere so the public actually has better access. 157 00:11:17,870 --> 00:11:20,190 as the building, especially during construction, 158 00:11:20,830 --> 00:11:21,990 we want to have that area cleared 159 00:11:21,990 --> 00:11:24,070 so we can have ease of vision. 160 00:11:24,270 --> 00:11:27,930 Yeah, more on that plan and then suddenly telling them, 161 00:11:28,150 --> 00:11:31,530 oh, it's gonna have to just be directed. 162 00:11:32,210 --> 00:11:34,010 Yeah, it blocks the thing, you know. 163 00:11:35,310 --> 00:11:36,590 On the town beach. 164 00:11:37,310 --> 00:11:38,770 Well, that's a good sign. 165 00:11:39,070 --> 00:11:41,590 The contract you were in is basically the size 166 00:11:41,590 --> 00:11:43,270 of the coding enforcement at the top of the stairs 167 00:11:43,270 --> 00:11:46,230 and there is still that office at DPW. 168 00:11:46,230 --> 00:11:48,510 So there is that kind of flex idea, right? 169 00:11:48,850 --> 00:11:49,770 I don't know if it's a lottery. 170 00:11:50,510 --> 00:11:51,630 Yeah, VPW is gone. 171 00:11:52,890 --> 00:11:53,890 No going back there. 172 00:11:54,190 --> 00:11:54,550 No going back there. 173 00:11:55,590 --> 00:12:00,030 I looked at the space earlier and they need that space. 174 00:12:00,510 --> 00:12:03,670 Okay. Maybe you also have these two offices in the bank area too, 175 00:12:03,770 --> 00:12:04,730 that we can move people around. 176 00:12:04,870 --> 00:12:11,030 So I think this new plan affords us to have a little bit of Italy 177 00:12:11,030 --> 00:12:12,750 and wiggle and stuff like that. 178 00:12:12,750 --> 00:12:18,870 And should we run out of space and we might find that the 600 square feet we've allocated for 179 00:12:19,510 --> 00:12:26,090 Conference rooms in that bank area. Yeah, that's that's that's yeah, isn't it especially uses us? Okay. Yeah. Excellent. Yeah. It's great. 180 00:12:26,670 --> 00:12:29,690 Thank you. Thank you. All right. Fine. Thanks. We'll live it. Great. 181 00:12:30,610 --> 00:12:36,850 When did we buy this building? Like eight and a half years ago, nine years ago. Did we have the conversation? 182 00:12:36,870 --> 00:12:40,490 You wanted to have about mechanicals just now because we said we were going to wait and 183 00:12:40,490 --> 00:12:47,230 Well, I just wanted a quick update on what exactly we don't do as far as the renovations go. 184 00:12:47,510 --> 00:12:52,510 Well, that would be one of the big parts of it, but essentially it's everything that's required, 185 00:12:52,510 --> 00:12:59,630 starting from HVAC to anything electrical, possibly need to deal with the septic, 186 00:12:59,970 --> 00:13:05,710 possibly need to use something with the elevator. Again, all of these are code issues that will come 187 00:13:05,710 --> 00:13:10,870 out during the design process. The important thing was knowing who's going where, because 188 00:13:10,870 --> 00:13:14,830 how you would hack up the space is a most important thing. Everything else can be designed 189 00:13:14,830 --> 00:13:15,590 into it later. 190 00:13:15,890 --> 00:13:17,310 Now do you think you're out of all that other stuff? 191 00:13:17,370 --> 00:13:18,430 It'll be stage properly. 192 00:13:18,570 --> 00:13:24,170 So now the next step is putting together an RFP for that project for the HVAC overhaul that 193 00:13:24,170 --> 00:13:30,430 you just described, because we're putting the work on the old bank to the side. 194 00:13:30,670 --> 00:13:31,690 No, no. 195 00:13:31,690 --> 00:13:37,890 The next thing I'm going to do is I'm going to get a revised drawing drawn up that can 196 00:13:37,890 --> 00:13:44,110 go out within a concept plan, and it's going to be an RFP for a suit to nuts design 197 00:13:44,110 --> 00:13:49,870 and engineering permitting all of that for the whole building, including laying out the 198 00:13:49,870 --> 00:13:50,310 stages. 199 00:13:50,530 --> 00:13:51,630 What happens when? 200 00:13:51,770 --> 00:13:52,750 Who moves when? 201 00:13:52,990 --> 00:13:53,130 Right. 202 00:13:53,750 --> 00:13:54,970 It's going to be like a five-year plan. 203 00:13:55,090 --> 00:13:55,450 Fantastic. 204 00:13:55,710 --> 00:13:56,630 And then you can work in pieces. 205 00:13:56,630 --> 00:14:01,330 So, indeed, you may be able to phase the bank work first and the HEM. 206 00:14:01,430 --> 00:14:05,350 You don't necessarily have to phase off moving the clerk to do all the HVAC if they are 207 00:14:05,350 --> 00:14:05,770 separate. 208 00:14:06,190 --> 00:14:07,550 Depends on the design. 209 00:14:08,170 --> 00:14:12,850 Depends on how much of this becomes centralized HVAC and how much of it becomes individualized 210 00:14:12,850 --> 00:14:13,370 spaces. 211 00:14:13,750 --> 00:14:13,930 It's great. 212 00:14:14,270 --> 00:14:16,870 And the HVAC engineer is going to be best suited to figure that out. 213 00:14:16,970 --> 00:14:17,630 That's really good news. 214 00:14:17,850 --> 00:14:20,370 That was a little bit of a feeling of a setback in the last meeting. 215 00:14:20,490 --> 00:14:21,870 Oh, we've got to wait to do that. 216 00:14:22,050 --> 00:14:23,890 We first have to do this or a co-verhaul. 217 00:14:23,890 --> 00:14:29,690 The idea they're all going to be playing together and then phased in a logical way is it's awesome. While we're on these stuff 218 00:14:29,690 --> 00:14:31,490 Hopefully I can update the carpet too 219 00:14:32,570 --> 00:14:35,090 That's won't overdo. I like the two-tone 220 00:14:38,090 --> 00:14:40,550 He sees gray and gray 221 00:14:40,550 --> 00:14:40,970 Thank you. 222 00:14:43,070 --> 00:14:43,870 Thank you guys 223 00:14:43,870 --> 00:14:51,730 Great news. Yeah, that's good for the rest of the building and it's used. Yeah. All right, 224 00:14:52,390 --> 00:14:59,210 next we have um so special events and I guess we're waiting for for Heather and special event but 225 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:29,380 We had met with the government liaison probably two years ago on the special events, and I know that parking and amplified music was two of the big concerns for one of the reasons that started the whole special event process, right? Because I just go back to when we actually realized there was a need for something like this. I think the problem that we found was that I'm going to have a party on the weekend. 226 00:15:29,380 --> 00:15:31,400 and do I need to get a special event permit? 227 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:33,740 You're gonna have a party on the weekend. 228 00:15:33,980 --> 00:15:35,480 Do you need to get a special event permit? 229 00:15:35,700 --> 00:15:37,300 So who's, you don't need one, I know. 230 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:38,020 You're good. 231 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:39,260 It was fun. 232 00:15:39,420 --> 00:15:40,300 He didn't have the fight. 233 00:15:40,300 --> 00:15:41,200 I would say that. 234 00:15:42,020 --> 00:15:43,720 But so it's kind of like up. 235 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,520 It's kind of like a, I think that's as important 236 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:50,660 as ample five music and how loud it could go 237 00:15:50,660 --> 00:15:51,960 and how long it can go for. 238 00:15:52,220 --> 00:15:53,600 Because that's easier to determine. 239 00:15:54,940 --> 00:15:57,260 And the mark is obviously an easier thing. 240 00:15:57,260 --> 00:16:03,680 So, I recommended another internal meeting and any board members welcome to come. 241 00:16:04,300 --> 00:16:07,020 I don't think there are any other board members there a couple of years ago. 242 00:16:07,220 --> 00:16:12,300 I think it was, I think it was just the people who were reviewing, you know, the clerk and the 243 00:16:12,300 --> 00:16:17,580 government liaison and the police department and planning. So, in the special event committee, 244 00:16:17,900 --> 00:16:21,720 I think you had a committee. You were there. I was there. Were you? Yeah. 245 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:22,040 Yeah. 246 00:16:22,220 --> 00:16:23,080 Two years ago. 247 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,020 I was on that special event. 248 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,320 Well, that touches the actual service. 249 00:16:28,780 --> 00:16:29,840 Yes, it was a working group. 250 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:30,960 This is just a working group. 251 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,480 I think you need to have that again. 252 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,160 So this is why I'm bringing this up, because we started that committee. 253 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,700 And then it just kind of dropped, because other things became prior already. 254 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,700 So I'm trying to bring it back to the surface. 255 00:16:41,860 --> 00:16:43,060 Well, working group includes. 256 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:44,160 Now that's getting winter. 257 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,420 Let's get a special event committee. 258 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,360 So it's also a email shaming once the application is taken and goes through. 259 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:59,160 through planning, building the town of Turner's office, it's essentially the special events 260 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,560 committee plus town work. 261 00:17:02,380 --> 00:17:08,940 We never took the leg step of deciding who needs to get as much of it. 262 00:17:09,120 --> 00:17:12,960 That was the big question, but then others tried to make a sauce sauce. 263 00:17:13,300 --> 00:17:14,840 It sounds like it's very unnecessary. 264 00:17:14,980 --> 00:17:21,280 Well, we also got into a problem with the insurance, the $1 million or $2 million, that's 265 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,160 I think that's very much the sort of. 266 00:17:23,980 --> 00:17:26,780 But also, and then we got into updating zoning 267 00:17:26,780 --> 00:17:32,100 because I talked about back when the zoning code 268 00:17:32,100 --> 00:17:34,340 was done for vineyards and wineries, 269 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,240 it was just tasting rooms. 270 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,800 But they've become something totally different. 271 00:17:39,020 --> 00:17:40,700 So why don't we update our code tool 272 00:17:40,700 --> 00:17:44,320 to automatically allow certain things with a site plan? 273 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:44,860 Right. 274 00:17:45,260 --> 00:17:48,920 You know, some wineries have site plans, some don't. 275 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:55,720 But, you know, if you have enough parking, you know, let them have music on the weekend with that special event, you know 276 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:02,560 But have the boundaries and the restrictions and and we started getting into the amplified that's why they only came up 277 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:10,220 Yeah, where those are located are not are sometimes in very residential areas that sometimes they're not yeah, well, what's kind of you decide? 278 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:12,500 Yeah, and special events overlay 279 00:18:16,980 --> 00:18:22,320 But I think, you know, and this is why you, you know, Heather has been trying to figure 280 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:27,900 out too in the zoning because then if, if we have all these things built into the zoning 281 00:18:27,900 --> 00:18:31,220 code, then somebody can come in for site plan and then planning work and just take care 282 00:18:31,220 --> 00:18:31,500 of it. 283 00:18:31,540 --> 00:18:35,340 And then it's a matter of fact of, oh, my site plan allows me to do this. 284 00:18:35,500 --> 00:18:35,660 Sure. 285 00:18:35,860 --> 00:18:41,360 And then it's just a matter of, okay, if they go outside of what they're allowed, then 286 00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:46,120 economy is worth it. And then we enforce it. Limit the number that so more questions 287 00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:51,540 than answers. Yeah, sorry, it's been those meetings. And it's so many people who are 288 00:18:51,540 --> 00:18:56,240 on this event committee. And I mean, Dennis is a pretty expert on this too. He's probably 289 00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:01,900 able to work to have an conversation. Like what goes just to him, what goes to the whole 290 00:19:01,900 --> 00:19:07,940 committee. So is the suggestion here to reboot that? Yeah, that's another yeah, to start 291 00:19:07,940 --> 00:19:12,200 talking about it again and actually get something accomplished. Even if it's just a piece of it 292 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:17,480 here and there and the zoning is really critical, I think. And since we've put parts of the zoning 293 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:22,160 on hold, I was adding a packet of this. That would form the problem too. We'll handle it during 294 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,400 zoning update, then that change. Still, that was another. We want to make food and other produce. 295 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,760 Right. No, no, no. That's a thing. So then we accomplish this without changing. 296 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:37,160 Well, we could, but then I think it would be like more of a more of a special use permit type of 297 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:41,220 because it wouldn't be running with the, it's not, like zoning, we have the right to do it. 298 00:19:41,380 --> 00:19:44,740 It would be especially use permit where you'd have the right to do it outside of your area. 299 00:19:44,820 --> 00:19:49,320 Yeah, so maybe if we can get the perimeter of what we want to eventually change the pose. 300 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,180 And then we say, okay, come in for a special permit that will last a year. 301 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:56,040 And every year, and you come in once a year instead of every event. 302 00:19:56,900 --> 00:20:02,520 So here's your, here's your, but that's, that's simple, I'm just saying something, 303 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:06,600 Yes, that happens. That's been civil, but I can't add a bit. That leads to it. 304 00:20:06,700 --> 00:20:08,780 But something temporal, we can change the zone. 305 00:20:08,940 --> 00:20:13,240 And is it possible there could be an appetite even to change the zone once the housing gets through 306 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,600 the open of early, kind of, no, deflocking? Yeah. 307 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,260 What do you mean? I mean, it's not earlier rather than later thing. 308 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:25,620 If we're picking things off, it's not like, it's not, it's not like, okay, no, no, it's not, I mean, 309 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,240 housing is still the very prayer. I was thinking of size, yeah. 310 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:29,980 And not then we also have small misses and add. 311 00:20:29,980 --> 00:20:30,420 Yes. 312 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:31,560 I'm going to show you the answer. 313 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:32,340 Okay. 314 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:33,440 Good to read for you. 315 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:34,440 But I think if we, yes. 316 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:40,380 I think if we couldn't, you know, we want to come up with, you know, of what we think we 317 00:20:40,380 --> 00:20:46,560 want to change code and then somehow implement that with a special use permit. 318 00:20:46,860 --> 00:20:46,980 Yeah. 319 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,620 And then that's if the way to work it out and see if it works. 320 00:20:49,860 --> 00:20:52,040 I don't want to start changing codes. 321 00:20:52,420 --> 00:20:53,140 No, that's not saying. 322 00:20:53,380 --> 00:20:54,020 That's not saying. 323 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:54,960 Put that in the box. 324 00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:55,640 Yeah. 325 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:56,780 Delete that comment. 326 00:20:57,060 --> 00:20:57,220 Yeah. 327 00:20:59,060 --> 00:21:18,900 I'm going to jump to item, but let me just, so the amplified music part, that's, it goes with it, but it's also kind of separate because it is becoming more and more of an issue as each summer comes, comes and goes. 328 00:21:18,900 --> 00:21:27,340 So I think that's something that we have to kind of go over this winter and be ready for next season to have an answer. 329 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,660 No, no, the amplified music in the park are two, those are the two big things. 330 00:21:31,820 --> 00:21:37,640 But it goes back to the original problem as who, well, they don't get a permit. 331 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,140 Why do I need a permit? And it goes back to that again. 332 00:21:40,260 --> 00:21:43,580 But we can do the amplified music separate. 333 00:21:43,580 --> 00:21:46,580 So we can look at how do you get people to come in? 334 00:21:46,660 --> 00:21:46,840 No. 335 00:21:47,420 --> 00:21:48,820 How do you get people to come in? 336 00:21:49,100 --> 00:21:50,140 Well, it wouldn't be for a comment. 337 00:21:50,620 --> 00:21:50,980 But no. 338 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,840 It would be a judge like you said in Jack, 339 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,960 whether it's at a restaurant or a restaurant. 340 00:21:55,980 --> 00:21:56,420 Oh, thank you. 341 00:21:56,580 --> 00:21:56,960 Oh. 342 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,380 And that goes beyond just special events. 343 00:21:59,440 --> 00:21:59,580 Right. 344 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:00,860 If you're not commercial. 345 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:01,660 Yeah. 346 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:02,680 Amplified. 347 00:22:03,100 --> 00:22:03,540 Separate. 348 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:04,080 Everything. 349 00:22:04,220 --> 00:22:05,980 Whether it's something back. 350 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,960 So you're talking about limiting it? 351 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:08,640 What? 352 00:22:09,620 --> 00:22:11,540 Well, that's the discussion we have to have. 353 00:22:11,540 --> 00:22:16,260 So just bring me it up as a separate topic and not waiting for special events. 354 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:26,060 So Eric McClure suggested that other municipalities have made a code of absolutely no amplified 355 00:22:26,060 --> 00:22:33,940 music. So we have to have that discussion. Do we go from absolutely no amplified music to sections 356 00:22:33,940 --> 00:22:39,960 of amplified music days and times to inside only no outside? Like those are the discussions that I 357 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:44,900 I think we should have a separate meeting to talk about just amplify music and how we 358 00:22:44,900 --> 00:22:49,500 wanted to look in this town so everybody can live together with it because you want 359 00:22:49,500 --> 00:22:54,360 to answer and you want to have that entertainment but you also don't want somebody's windows 360 00:22:54,360 --> 00:22:55,560 shabby, you know. 361 00:22:55,860 --> 00:23:02,740 So that is a great idea but we have to finish the housing things first I think. 362 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:08,080 I don't want to get distracted and get off course because the people who work that a lot 363 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,100 of our housing initiatives are going to be very much to have a lot of work done then. 364 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,560 I think we can do both at once because I don't think the amplified music is going to take as 365 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:21,520 much energy as the housing and I don't think it's really going to take away from... 366 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:26,060 I would argue that there's a lot of energy towards housing. We have both the short temperamentals, 367 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:32,580 which you have. We also have the housing programs as well. I am also concerned about taking time away. 368 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,820 I don't want to be distracted by something that's important. 369 00:23:35,820 --> 00:23:40,960 I'm not thinking like, I mean, maybe, I'm not saying like what's set up a meeting tomorrow, 370 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,520 but maybe like let's have it in the back of our minds that maybe by February we start 371 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,480 talking about amplifier music, so we're ready for the next season. 372 00:23:48,780 --> 00:23:52,440 The way I understood this was that the conversations are going to start happening, it just won't 373 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,960 be any actual code changes until after we get through the top priority. 374 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,980 So there's nothing to stop the conversation that's kind of what I'm, yeah, I have to get 375 00:23:59,980 --> 00:24:04,980 an idea of what, you know, where we're going to go with it, yes, people are constantly coming 376 00:24:04,980 --> 00:24:10,700 to all of us, saying, you know, complaining about the amplified music, the police are constantly going 377 00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:16,660 out. I mean, it's going to be forced to become a priority, whether we think it should be or not. 378 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:21,680 I think it's important. It's also going to bring in the whole lead flow conversation, which I think 379 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:27,140 it's important. But I think if we get distracted from short fermentals and housing. 380 00:24:28,140 --> 00:24:33,140 So we need to make sure it doesn't distract us, but I think Jill's point is, let's get it on 381 00:24:33,140 --> 00:24:39,920 like early December, we're going to be reminded that, you know, where would this fit now if we get into the budget? 382 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,880 And if we, yeah, I'm not saying, let's go to that tomorrow. 383 00:24:43,620 --> 00:24:49,020 Like, if we could just get background on current code, like, what's the current code, 384 00:24:49,020 --> 00:24:52,980 just so we can familiarize ourselves with it as we're starting to simmer. 385 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:53,700 A year ago. 386 00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:56,760 Where you could have your own task force just on tamplified itself. 387 00:24:57,020 --> 00:24:58,580 This was a hot topic on Earth. 388 00:24:58,580 --> 00:25:04,020 police advisory. I mean that's getting most impact. Well and I mean we can we can task it with 389 00:25:04,020 --> 00:25:09,540 the police advisory. We have nothing task for them right now and we have them do the background 390 00:25:09,540 --> 00:25:13,760 like what do other towns do like we do know what like we do with irrigation on the water committee. 391 00:25:13,980 --> 00:25:17,900 We did the yeah we did some background see what other towns are doing. 392 00:25:18,060 --> 00:25:22,620 This small report says yes or so. She's the hot topic last summer of the supervise 393 00:25:24,020 --> 00:25:28,240 associations because they are seeing them everywhere and the more people you get close 394 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,160 to being able to get the more impact you get from the amplified music. 395 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,200 So we can think of the great idea. 396 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:38,020 I think it's got us all the way up with Chris North and put it on the agenda for the next 397 00:25:38,020 --> 00:25:38,280 meeting. 398 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:38,640 Yeah. 399 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,660 And then they can look into it. 400 00:25:40,660 --> 00:25:42,720 That's who gets right now most impacts with the calls. 401 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:43,640 Absolutely. 402 00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:44,260 What is it taking? 403 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:44,780 They're going on. 404 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,680 Is it really helping? 405 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,480 Through the frontline dealing with it. 406 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:47,760 Yeah. 407 00:25:47,940 --> 00:25:48,560 High five, Jill. 408 00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:49,640 I agree. 409 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,500 I agree. 410 00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:54,500 So now we have some direction, thank you. 411 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,180 So now Heather is here? 412 00:25:56,300 --> 00:25:59,240 Could I have ten minutes to finish the handout? 413 00:25:59,540 --> 00:25:59,660 Yep. 414 00:25:59,900 --> 00:26:01,780 I just had a couple things I had to add to it. 415 00:26:02,420 --> 00:26:02,960 I'll see you in a little bit. 416 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:03,340 I'll just leave it down. 417 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,540 I just want to work for the housing. 418 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:06,920 Yeah. 419 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:07,700 That's what's next, right? 420 00:26:08,220 --> 00:26:08,920 Oh, okay. 421 00:26:09,460 --> 00:26:09,560 Yes. 422 00:26:09,780 --> 00:26:10,160 I'm sorry. 423 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:11,320 Go ahead. 424 00:26:11,820 --> 00:26:12,340 All right. 425 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,560 We're going to get the item for then. 426 00:26:16,220 --> 00:26:17,560 I think before it's downbreak. 427 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,840 I'm going to put it on the floor. 428 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:19,880 Yeah. 429 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,940 I missed out on. 430 00:26:22,940 --> 00:26:23,160 Ah, yeah. 431 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:24,580 Item forward soaps. 432 00:26:25,140 --> 00:26:25,820 Cover me that Drum Shakespeare. 433 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,740 Cover me a zone of one slaughter of slide a couple of 434 00:26:30,740 --> 00:26:31,320 years ago. 435 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,180 With the help of Michael 436 00:26:33,180 --> 00:26:35,360 and Michael Collins and 437 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:36,080 highward Superintendent, 438 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,960 Dan Goodwin and John 439 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,740 Sevenosky, they worked on this grant 440 00:26:39,740 --> 00:26:41,040 to see what could happen, 441 00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:46,120 so all that we are working with 442 00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:48,160 the report and going on. 443 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:48,460 We did not. 444 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:49,740 We were not award at 445 00:26:49,740 --> 00:26:56,920 grant and the grant was for basically a soft approach there towards mitigating erosion at the 446 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:02,920 beach. Then luckily we didn't get that money because it would have been a plan for something 447 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:11,220 that would not have held up under other nature's demands there. And so the grant was reapplied for 448 00:27:11,220 --> 00:27:18,520 and we did we were approved for it this year. So you know thank you to Gwen for doing that work 449 00:27:19,060 --> 00:27:25,800 And so the suggestion was from Michael to do a heavy or a cobble beach and this of course 450 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:31,520 reaction to the reality on the site, the heavier cobble approach to the beach instead 451 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:39,720 of sand and we did apply, we were awarded, this is just something I saw the trustees this 452 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:43,540 morning they were headed out on field inspection, you know, of course they've been notified. 453 00:27:43,540 --> 00:27:49,300 Like if everyone could take a look at this, I do have a letter I would like to sign. 454 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:57,740 You know, thanking them for their support of this and saying that we will be happy to participate in this. 455 00:27:58,180 --> 00:28:02,640 This does force tie in with the elevation of the parking lot. 456 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:09,060 It's not just the armoring, but it's also the elevation, of course, that it ties in with the Suffolk County DPW. 457 00:28:09,060 --> 00:28:12,920 You know, Suffolk County, and I'm trying to get, 458 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,440 we have Suffolk County DPW out there in the winter time, 459 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,440 looking at the condition of the beach and the road, 460 00:28:19,740 --> 00:28:22,380 they still have some infrastructure on our property there. 461 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,180 They need to be partners with us on their infrastructure. 462 00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:29,920 This is, raising that road is in the Suffolk County's 463 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,860 coastal resiliency plan. 464 00:28:32,120 --> 00:28:32,640 Wow, great. 465 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,540 As a priority. 466 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:35,880 As in the top 10 priorities. 467 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:36,380 Wow. 468 00:28:36,980 --> 00:28:37,240 Yes. 469 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:51,500 and it should be number one, but number four, but I, well, the rent I put, so trying to get the county executive on board with, you know, this project raising the road and whatnot. 470 00:28:53,020 --> 00:29:03,100 And you didn't mention it the other night, coastal resiliency didn't come up at all, but hopefully we can get as attention with this, with this project, then we can get the support. 471 00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:09,000 to we, if they raised the road, the county road, you know, we have land there to help support 472 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,940 that effort. So it should be a good collaborative project. 473 00:29:12,300 --> 00:29:17,200 I was at that address for his county address, and he did mention you several times. 474 00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:22,100 Yeah. And in a hopeful way, he mentioned some environmental projects. Hopefully, that's the 475 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:27,680 the segue that the county can support the town for supporting. I know, 476 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:32,660 it's also spoke to Congressman Loda when he visited us with some of the funds and 477 00:29:32,660 --> 00:29:34,120 and he said that's a possibility. 478 00:29:34,420 --> 00:29:36,700 So I'm just glad that you took that opportunity 479 00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:38,900 to speak to him for that federal support. 480 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:39,780 So I appreciate that. 481 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,180 And also you talked to him about 482 00:29:41,180 --> 00:29:42,640 pledging amount of tuck inlet. 483 00:29:42,860 --> 00:29:42,980 Yes. 484 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,580 So I just appreciate that you're Johnny on the spot 485 00:29:45,580 --> 00:29:48,320 and people when we have people in our orbit 486 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,840 that can help support us. 487 00:29:49,980 --> 00:29:51,760 And you know, that should be their responsibility. 488 00:29:51,900 --> 00:29:54,040 And you mentioned that to them. 489 00:29:54,140 --> 00:29:55,300 So thank you for talking to him. 490 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:56,880 We have a lot of good partners out there. 491 00:29:58,100 --> 00:29:59,500 I'd also like to point out this totally, 492 00:29:59,500 --> 00:29:59,860 Pleasant. 493 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:29,980 The conversation of a couple of work sessions to go about climate resiliency and kind of and having that lens and and the idea that this is a potential pilot, you know, for the rest of the county. It's, you know, we're part of this whole process of adaptation regionally. It's really exciting. And it looks like an amazing resource. And this is and the working group looks like it'll be very productive and it's a bunch of public engagement, which will also raise just sort of the general literacy about the 494 00:30:31,660 --> 00:30:39,540 We have meeting on site with all these people that we've already met with has been helpful 495 00:30:39,540 --> 00:30:43,580 because it's kind of showed us the supports there for this project. 496 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:49,440 So we're not going to be getting into something that other regulatory agencies are going 497 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,620 to be like, well, what are you doing there? 498 00:30:53,740 --> 00:30:57,880 We've built support for this in the past year to move forward. 499 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:05,040 I'll just I remember that cold day. We're on the beach. Yeah, somehow way you got county people in New York State and 500 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:11,180 EC. So I just appreciate that the people were there kicking the rocks and could see it instead of looking on 501 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:16,260 Computer, they were actually there and probably only you could get out all those stakeholders there 502 00:31:16,260 --> 00:31:22,780 So I just appreciate that those people were brought together and gave some good suggestions and talked about their responsibility for us 503 00:31:22,780 --> 00:31:23,720 So thank you. Thank you 504 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:29,640 So that's that. So if any of them don't want to get some, I'd like to sign that letter 505 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:30,380 and set it back. 506 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:30,560 Yes. 507 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:32,140 Thank you. 508 00:31:32,300 --> 00:31:33,080 And more sec. Great. 509 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,520 Good news. 510 00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:45,520 That was a big, that was a big grant. That was one of those interesting ones, wasn't it. 511 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,940 So we can talk about the surveys, business surveys. 512 00:31:49,300 --> 00:31:52,360 I'm kind of wait just a little bit longer because there are some members that would want to 513 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,720 join up so that we can work together. 514 00:31:55,020 --> 00:31:55,920 Thank you, Patrick. 515 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:57,000 Can I just make a quick announcement? 516 00:31:57,260 --> 00:31:58,600 We have some neighbors on Zoom. 517 00:31:58,740 --> 00:32:00,120 Can I just say who's joining us? 518 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,660 So we have Shreya Kevans-Ducy from Bringworth Village. 519 00:32:03,180 --> 00:32:06,060 We have Mary Ves Phillips from Trustee from Greenport Village. 520 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,480 And Mike Tyner from the Great Cut-Chut Civic. 521 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,440 So we just appreciate people in the public. 522 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:12,680 Our neighbors joining us. 523 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:13,860 And there's many other people. 524 00:32:13,940 --> 00:32:15,500 There's local media online. 525 00:32:15,820 --> 00:32:18,100 So just preach a lot more people are zooming in. 526 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:20,680 And I'm glad that we offer that for the town teams. 527 00:32:20,940 --> 00:32:21,240 Thank you. 528 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:25,920 And so we have this space here today because the town meeting hall was booked. 529 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:31,160 We have, we are setting up with the same system, the iconic school. 530 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,220 So that will be available very soon with the exact same system. 531 00:32:35,420 --> 00:32:39,480 So the sound quality and everything will be the same quality as it is here. 532 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,500 And hopefully upstairs in the courtroom. 533 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,460 Yes, I would be nice. 534 00:32:45,260 --> 00:32:46,300 Well, I think that's all. 535 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,680 You don't think that's a matter of question. 536 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,980 I think we need to just kind of exercise it up. 537 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:53,960 It's a major thing. 538 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:55,280 It's a major thing initially. 539 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:55,840 I'm scared. 540 00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:56,640 I'm sorry. 541 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:58,520 Well, that's just taking it easy. 542 00:32:58,780 --> 00:32:59,640 Yeah, I'm sorry. 543 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,580 Yeah, but that's all. 544 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:02,300 It's all an additional time. 545 00:33:02,380 --> 00:33:03,080 It's one thing at a time. 546 00:33:03,260 --> 00:33:03,400 Yes. 547 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:08,640 And then it goes back to the discussions that we're having in the minute taking. 548 00:33:08,940 --> 00:33:09,120 Yes. 549 00:33:09,340 --> 00:33:11,820 And how would it all rise in with that? 550 00:33:11,980 --> 00:33:14,160 That's going to be a very helpful, good guy. 551 00:33:14,340 --> 00:33:15,260 That's a very good guy. 552 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,020 I'm not just listening to him. 553 00:33:17,020 --> 00:33:18,860 It's a big deal. 554 00:33:19,740 --> 00:33:21,720 We're coming in at the point of sense. 555 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,440 Yes, it is. 556 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:25,420 Thank you so much. 557 00:33:25,580 --> 00:33:26,380 You're dragging me in. 558 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:27,200 Kick her in the screen. 559 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:28,100 Oops. 560 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,580 Oh, this is a hot topic. 561 00:33:32,380 --> 00:33:32,500 Wow. 562 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:33,660 Thank you. 563 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:36,560 Good morning. 564 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:37,340 Good morning. 565 00:33:38,340 --> 00:33:39,040 Oh, thank you. 566 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:41,020 Oh. 567 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,460 Just put up with identifying yourselves and wanting it here. 568 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:44,980 Yes. 569 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,380 I had a land on the town planning director here. 570 00:33:48,380 --> 00:33:54,860 to talk about community housing and our code amendments to get to the next step for 571 00:33:54,860 --> 00:33:55,180 this. 572 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:01,160 Andrea Sullivan, the community development project supervisor, talked to you about the 573 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,580 same thing, and on Maris Reza planner. 574 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:15,800 So, as you might know, we have for the past four months, we've been working on code amendments 575 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,220 for community housing. 576 00:34:17,220 --> 00:34:21,440 And the reason we're doing that is because we have a lot of conflicts in our existing 577 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,760 town code, including inconsistencies with our new community housing plan. 578 00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:30,820 So the amendments were necessary to be able to implement the programs described in that 579 00:34:30,820 --> 00:34:31,780 community housing plan. 580 00:34:33,100 --> 00:34:40,800 So town staff, including three of us and assistant town attorney Julie McGibby, have been working 581 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,740 very hard for the past four months on this code. 582 00:34:43,740 --> 00:34:49,380 We outlined on the first page of this handout the steps that we see happening. 583 00:34:50,700 --> 00:34:58,040 Step one is drafting a new chapter 112 to administer the community housing fund. 584 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:03,240 So it's what will guide the implementation of the housing plan and where the general rules 585 00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:06,220 around affordability and eligibility would be contained. 586 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,720 Currently those rules are found in several places in the code including our affordable housing zoning district. 587 00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:14,600 and we thought this all was a much 588 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,420 leader package to be a separate 589 00:35:16,420 --> 00:35:19,340 chapter with the rules all located 590 00:35:19,340 --> 00:35:22,420 there. That's step one is drafted 591 00:35:22,420 --> 00:35:24,580 and ready to go. That's the committee 592 00:35:24,580 --> 00:35:26,340 we're thinking about. We have planned 593 00:35:26,340 --> 00:35:30,200 for next week. Step two is revising 594 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,400 chapters 17 and 34. 17 just needs 595 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,180 some minor revisions. 34 just needed 596 00:35:37,180 --> 00:35:39,080 some revisions to be consistent with 597 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:56,540 Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry about that. Chapter 17 is the community housing, the community preservation fund chapter that establishes the fund itself for community housing. Chapter 34 is the old housing code. 598 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:03,560 The housing chapter we had where we would spend money from inclusionary zoning buyouts. 599 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:13,340 So, I'm just financially those two separate costs money, so we can't, you know, there's 600 00:36:13,340 --> 00:36:21,020 a way to spend each one from, so we have the 0.5% is under 17, and the other money that 601 00:36:21,020 --> 00:36:27,060 we have is under 31, so it gets confusing, and that's another reason why these codes have 602 00:36:27,060 --> 00:36:28,540 to be mulled together. 603 00:36:28,540 --> 00:36:28,820 That's right. 604 00:36:29,140 --> 00:36:29,340 That's right. 605 00:36:29,340 --> 00:36:29,760 That's right. 606 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:37,080 So we're keeping chapter 34, but it's going to refer to chapter 112, and it's going 607 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:45,340 to, the other thing it does is it replaces the Housing Advisory Commission with the Community 608 00:36:45,340 --> 00:36:46,460 Housing Advisory Board. 609 00:36:48,660 --> 00:36:56,680 Step three, we are drafting a new Community Housing Overlay District in chapter 280 zoning. 610 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:11,860 This would replace the affordable housing district, and that is largely drafted already, but I think we're going to have enough for code committee on the 15th looking at steps 1 and 2, because it's a lot the new. 611 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:13,960 What is the change there? 612 00:37:14,460 --> 00:37:16,680 I say that because I was not on the board of housing. 613 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:22,340 So the board of housing district, which has been in the code for a while, it has right 614 00:37:22,340 --> 00:37:26,440 now it contains all the eligibility requirements for affordable housing. 615 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,120 So all that has to come out, go into chapter 112. 616 00:37:30,420 --> 00:37:36,160 It has a lot of inconsistencies with the community housing plan, so it needs to be really drastically 617 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:40,940 simplified down to what are the permitted uses and where, where is this allowed to be landed. 618 00:37:40,940 --> 00:37:46,220 And unfortunately, I can't make it on Tuesday, but I'll catch up with you after. 619 00:37:47,060 --> 00:37:54,720 So step four, we have some other chapters that refer to affordable housing, community 620 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:57,540 housing, but they're not, they're obsolete references. 621 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:04,460 So chapter 117, sanitary flow credits has references in it that need correction and chapter 240 622 00:38:04,460 --> 00:38:07,460 subdivisions also has references that need correction. 623 00:38:08,820 --> 00:38:14,520 Step five is looking at Chapter 280, our accessory apartment regulations. 624 00:38:14,740 --> 00:38:23,120 If you look at the table I handed out, it has every place accessory apartments are mentioned in the code. 625 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:31,580 And then across the top it says whether or not it requires rental to an eligible person, 626 00:38:31,700 --> 00:38:34,900 a community housing eligible person, whether or not it's required to be affordable, 627 00:38:35,900 --> 00:38:41,280 whether or not it has the option for a family member, and you can just see by a glance 628 00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:46,240 at this figure that our code is wildly inconsistent with each other. 629 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,980 So that's a big job on looking at that and job just to do the chart. 630 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:58,940 So I mean, so we've been working, this just shows that we've been working, but about what's 631 00:38:58,940 --> 00:39:03,360 the timeline on those things, because we talked, I'm sorry to interrupt, so it's a really 632 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:03,920 good point. 633 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:09,480 We talked about code committee on the 15th, and now we've got one town board member that's not coming. 634 00:39:10,300 --> 00:39:13,000 I assume there'll be the rest of the town board will be in attendance. 635 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,160 But we want to move this along. 636 00:39:15,660 --> 00:39:18,620 We don't want to say, well, let's wait for two weeks and let everybody catch up. 637 00:39:18,660 --> 00:39:19,380 I don't need for many. 638 00:39:19,980 --> 00:39:20,620 So that don't want to. 639 00:39:20,660 --> 00:39:21,040 I don't want to. 640 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,600 Yeah, I think I have a car. 641 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:23,500 Yeah. 642 00:39:23,540 --> 00:39:23,740 Yeah. 643 00:39:26,380 --> 00:39:30,540 But if we get the code committee and I know so much work's been done internally. 644 00:39:30,540 --> 00:39:35,840 And everyone says, and the public says, oh, that's wow, great work. 645 00:39:35,980 --> 00:39:39,100 Then we just schedule public hearings and move this forward. 646 00:39:39,780 --> 00:39:42,020 I don't want to pass to all go together. 647 00:39:42,220 --> 00:39:46,260 So we can I don't think we can adopt chapter 112 without doing community housing overlay. 648 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,780 And that's why that's my question is how what's the timeline? 649 00:39:50,780 --> 00:39:55,500 I think potentially three step four we can probably if we get through step four, 650 00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:59,740 we can probably do some adoption because I think all of the hang together. 651 00:40:02,180 --> 00:40:15,220 I don't want to say, okay, well, we did that, we did one through four, now we have to do one through eight, and then we have to do one through 12 or whatever, and then it's like there has to be enough time to for stakeholder 652 00:40:15,220 --> 00:40:21,020 or comments, and for us to share this with the community, 653 00:40:21,020 --> 00:40:23,860 we have to have comments before public hearings, 654 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,960 as well as possibly information sessions, 655 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,280 we're talking about that kind of experience. 656 00:40:28,620 --> 00:40:34,240 I think the public's in the 8 year already, right? 657 00:40:34,820 --> 00:40:35,840 I think the public's been engaged. 658 00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:37,160 Once the new... 659 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:37,880 Why do you say that? 660 00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:38,840 That's how it looks like. 661 00:40:38,980 --> 00:40:39,260 That's something. 662 00:40:39,780 --> 00:40:41,320 I mean, once the news draft code is released, 663 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,140 the public shouldn't child means to look at it. 664 00:40:46,720 --> 00:40:52,860 So once we get through, once we get through Step 4, right, and say everybody's like, oh, 665 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,440 this is great. 666 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:54,560 We go to public hearing. 667 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,000 We adopt the code. 668 00:40:57,100 --> 00:41:01,180 Can we simultaneously move forward with our housing program? 669 00:41:01,260 --> 00:41:03,160 Why we're still fixing the rest of the... 670 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,760 When you say housing program, do you mean to give them service to the... 671 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:05,920 Yes. 672 00:41:06,700 --> 00:41:06,980 Yes. 673 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,680 I think we're going forward with spending some money. 674 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,840 but once they're formally implemented into the code, 675 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,740 however long that process takes, 676 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,940 and we have the program ready and reviewed by the CHABB. 677 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:18,980 Yeah, that's what I mean. 678 00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:21,220 After all that is done, we would be in better shape 679 00:41:21,620 --> 00:41:22,600 and give out some money. 680 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:23,080 Okay. 681 00:41:23,220 --> 00:41:25,140 Before all these things are done, or? 682 00:41:25,460 --> 00:41:28,540 Just took, I think through four is where you need to get through 683 00:41:28,540 --> 00:41:29,800 to be able to spend the money 684 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:30,940 because you've fixed your, 685 00:41:31,140 --> 00:41:33,400 so we've got to say, yeah, once we get through it 686 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,780 for everything's complete, all those things they're done, 687 00:41:36,780 --> 00:41:42,100 And we can simultaneously say, okay, now let's see what this program can do. 688 00:41:42,300 --> 00:41:45,700 Let's have this project as we're still reviewing all these other changes. 689 00:41:45,780 --> 00:41:46,220 Yes. 690 00:41:46,460 --> 00:41:50,240 And then in the background of all of this is the Down Payment Assistance Loan program, 691 00:41:50,260 --> 00:41:52,720 which can begin, this has been the focus. 692 00:41:53,060 --> 00:41:53,280 Right. 693 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:54,700 One step, that's what I'm saying. 694 00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:54,900 Yeah. 695 00:41:54,980 --> 00:41:55,120 Okay. 696 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:55,920 And you're going to hear. 697 00:41:56,060 --> 00:41:58,480 So when I wait until all these steps are done before we spend the penny. 698 00:41:58,760 --> 00:41:59,080 Exactly. 699 00:41:59,520 --> 00:41:59,560 Okay. 700 00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:05,140 And as they see today, we've already talked about some formal community meetings, informational 701 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:05,980 meetings. 702 00:42:05,980 --> 00:42:10,720 because it's not public hearing, but like you did when you were doing the house and you kind of 703 00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:14,960 choked it and some open discussion like this is what we're doing, this is where we're going, 704 00:42:15,020 --> 00:42:21,880 people can hear us, people can write to us, people can play out ideas, the North Park Civics are 705 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:29,360 planning a sort of idea, what are some possible ways to solve the issue so you've got a lot of 706 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:37,920 I mean, not just input, but actual engagement in sort of proactive ideas, so that will help us just one quick way. 707 00:42:38,580 --> 00:42:43,400 Wouldn't the accessory apartments need to be part of that? I mean, I'm just worried why not? 708 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:53,860 It's not to spend the money. I mean, right now we're stuck with the program of implementing some of the projects that we have hovering around, actually waiting. 709 00:42:53,860 --> 00:42:56,220 And I guess it's been that he's a think our attorney. 710 00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,920 I would emphasize getting it done right the first time. 711 00:43:01,140 --> 00:43:04,620 Yeah, but not that we're talking about rushing through it. 712 00:43:04,820 --> 00:43:11,860 But I would emphasize that probably some of the reason this is so complicated and a little 713 00:43:11,860 --> 00:43:14,940 bit kind of a little bit is probably because we've rushed it to task. 714 00:43:15,260 --> 00:43:19,500 So I would just exercise caution and try to get it right done right. 715 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,800 Even if it takes a few more months, let's get it done right the first time rather than 716 00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:31,380 I agree. I agree. And I think that's why the tambourteous informs you guys to work on this. 717 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,200 So we do get it done right. But I think if we all kind of have a picture of like, okay, 718 00:43:35,380 --> 00:43:41,700 if all this starts the line after step four and it works out and we become a little unstuck 719 00:43:41,700 --> 00:43:49,000 in certain areas, we can move forward with that and get something done. But if we get to that 720 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,680 point and we say, no, we're still pretty stuck, we got to keep moving. Then that's what the answer 721 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,560 But I think it's an important conversation to have now. 722 00:43:56,820 --> 00:44:02,600 And I just want to add, so if we don't do the accessory apartments along, you know, step 723 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:08,000 one through five, excluding that, then I would be reviewing the federal subsidy program 724 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,200 by developers with the CHAB. 725 00:44:09,500 --> 00:44:09,760 Okay. 726 00:44:10,100 --> 00:44:16,020 Once the accessory apartment one gets done, that's when I think the ADU program makes sense to begin the CHAB 727 00:44:16,020 --> 00:44:16,580 review of. 728 00:44:17,260 --> 00:44:22,120 And you can even parse out the accessory apartment regulations because you have two tracks. 729 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,400 you have the aid to use residential zones and then you have accessory apartments and business 730 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:34,620 zones. And that's two different things. And we had talked about getting in like a rhythm, 731 00:44:35,060 --> 00:44:40,560 you know, and I'm wondering, what do we have? I'm going to make a push for the day after 732 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:41,220 time board meetings. 733 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:50,220 You're here. Yeah. So we talked about, we have September 15th Schedule for Code 734 00:44:50,220 --> 00:44:56,820 committee. Yes. Just on that note, one thing I want to do was post the draft code that we're 735 00:44:56,820 --> 00:44:59,960 going to be talking about ahead of time for everybody to see, including... 736 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,620 Sure. Okay. But yeah, that's really that on selling off date.com. And they'll link on the main ones. Yeah. So that's one thing. And then in terms ofç²’ment, keeping this going. One of the things, that the subcommittee on housing and Alexa. You guys talked about was a public info session and we had tentatively chosen September, troy nights. We won't have a lot done yet, but we'll have had one code committee 737 00:45:29,620 --> 00:45:35,120 And last you want to do another one next week because we'd be ready to do I mean what they'll be gaffer next 738 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,420 So we'll be ready to do 739 00:45:37,940 --> 00:45:42,960 112 17 and 34 steps one and two September 15th the following week 740 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:48,700 We'd be ready to do with the community housing overlay district 23. Yes, absolutely. When you make the day 741 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:50,960 Well, we want to win cates here 742 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,340 Well, you have to all many for that conference 743 00:45:53,340 --> 00:45:57,280 But I will just zoom the can I can zoom in? Absolutely. Okay. I'll just go to 744 00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:58,460 Yeah, no, no, no. 745 00:45:58,540 --> 00:45:58,600 Third. 746 00:45:59,360 --> 00:45:59,700 Come in. 747 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:00,380 I'll be there. 748 00:46:00,620 --> 00:46:01,180 I'll be there. 749 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,240 What day of the week is that? 750 00:46:03,380 --> 00:46:04,500 That's what I was saying. 751 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:06,940 It's fine. 752 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:07,520 Okay. 753 00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:08,860 Well, it's gone. 754 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:10,400 Because I'll be up in Texas. 755 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:11,660 I'll be missing the next. 756 00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:13,980 My son's getting ACL surgery. 757 00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:15,640 Oh, I want to say it. 758 00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:16,580 Well, it's a text. 759 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,480 I will be there. 760 00:46:18,700 --> 00:46:19,520 But you will soon. 761 00:46:19,720 --> 00:46:20,280 So you'll have to. 762 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,080 Yeah, that's all right. 763 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:21,960 So that's good momentum. 764 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:23,740 And then after that every two weeks, 765 00:46:23,740 --> 00:46:24,920 and so we get it there. 766 00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:26,740 Because I think we do have a pay attention to the next. 767 00:46:26,860 --> 00:46:27,620 And that's good momentum. 768 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:28,640 And then after that every two weeks. 769 00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:31,540 for example, in terms of tone board meetings. 770 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,640 So we'll just do that every two weeks, 771 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:35,780 Wednesday, schedule it. 772 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:42,880 And so as far as, as far as, as far as scheduling, 773 00:46:43,900 --> 00:46:46,260 these things, and it goes back to my original question 774 00:46:46,260 --> 00:46:48,100 when I was, what's that? 775 00:46:48,540 --> 00:46:49,620 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 776 00:46:49,860 --> 00:46:51,340 We have a way to read budget coming up, 777 00:46:51,420 --> 00:46:52,380 so we have to make sure. 778 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:53,700 From September, we can do it, 779 00:46:53,700 --> 00:46:54,860 but then we have to take a break, 780 00:46:54,860 --> 00:47:05,680 I can, I have to go back to that, say, when we segment some of these things and we start 781 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:12,540 to approve them, how does logistically, how do we move through that process smoothly? 782 00:47:13,140 --> 00:47:18,100 And I don't want to get hung up on, we did one through four, but we have to wait for comments 783 00:47:18,100 --> 00:47:28,080 and vents, cautionary advice is, I think, helpful, because I have a neighbor who used to 784 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,720 say that, you know, you want to do it your way, you want to do it the right way. 785 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,300 And so thank you for saying it nice of that, Beth. 786 00:47:36,220 --> 00:47:46,820 But how do you schedule all those components and not get stuck with, not get stuck in the 787 00:47:46,820 --> 00:47:49,920 but somehow with something else, oh, we didn't finish that. 788 00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:52,540 We can't finish this and give subsidies, 789 00:47:52,860 --> 00:47:53,860 because we didn't finish that. 790 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:58,320 I really think it's some of these don't hinge on other things, 791 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,400 like maybe some projects might, 792 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,120 but I don't think the codes do. 793 00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:04,420 So that's why I lumped step one and two together. 794 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,380 And then step three, if you do steps three and four, 795 00:48:09,100 --> 00:48:10,780 you've gotten to a point where you've taken out 796 00:48:10,780 --> 00:48:12,320 some of the major inconsistencies, 797 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,980 the roadblocks to moving forward, the major roadblocks. 798 00:48:15,980 --> 00:48:19,440 Yeah, and then we get secret with it and everything so that takes time too. 799 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,600 There's those components, but I do want to say that the whole code to some extent really 800 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,260 does hang together as evidenced by this table. 801 00:48:27,940 --> 00:48:34,820 And so developers who may be really excited to know that the subsidy is unlocked may not 802 00:48:34,820 --> 00:48:40,500 know that changes in 280 zoning that impact them could potentially help them get to a bottom 803 00:48:40,500 --> 00:48:42,560 line that's going to better suit the project. 804 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:47,280 Yeah. So I want to say that because it does all hang together while we have this urgency. 805 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:53,320 I also just want to note that all of this stuff is actively being drafted. There's no, 806 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:59,360 no one here has the break zone at all, okay? But when we are talking through the steps and all 807 00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:04,140 these other pages, we're working on all those other pages as well. So as much as you're ready to 808 00:49:04,140 --> 00:49:10,020 be at the table with us, moving things forward, we're here. And I'm glad you said that could so much 809 00:49:10,020 --> 00:49:15,080 work going on behind the scenes that people don't know about. And so that needs to be out there 810 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,920 that this is not something that we're going to meet in two weeks. And then we'll schedule 811 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:24,840 one of the meetings that it's actually the work is on going by staff every day. 812 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:30,680 To that point, I mean, does there have to be a conflict that we're working on budget and can't we 813 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:34,560 work on budget and code in October? And why is it one? I got that. I want another one. 814 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:37,100 we would be working outside of the 815 00:49:37,100 --> 00:49:37,420 community. 816 00:49:37,900 --> 00:49:38,700 It's up to you. 817 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:39,340 It's a two-hour 818 00:49:39,340 --> 00:49:40,720 hospital, but I think Wednesday. 819 00:49:40,860 --> 00:49:42,040 I'm just looking at that Wednesday. 820 00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:43,980 I know which one budget is really 821 00:49:43,980 --> 00:49:44,480 a lot. 822 00:49:44,620 --> 00:49:45,880 The meeting with 823 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,020 October 7th. 824 00:49:48,020 --> 00:49:48,560 October 7th. 825 00:49:49,740 --> 00:49:50,980 I said during a certain time. 826 00:49:51,080 --> 00:49:52,060 So it's going to take up. 827 00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:53,260 We can zoom. 828 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:54,100 It doesn't have to be the 829 00:49:54,100 --> 00:49:54,260 old. 830 00:49:54,420 --> 00:49:57,600 I would say is that the first week 831 00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,320 of October versus second week in 832 00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:01,740 October, we really need to concentrate 833 00:50:01,740 --> 00:50:02,880 on the budget, because that's when 834 00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:03,760 we have our all-hour prayers. 835 00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:05,580 Yes, you guys pick it. We're ready to go. 836 00:50:05,720 --> 00:50:06,500 We'll find a plan. 837 00:50:06,820 --> 00:50:11,380 Maybe we'll maybe do another dozen loves for the last two weeks of October to catch up. 838 00:50:12,340 --> 00:50:13,100 Yeah, it's good. 839 00:50:13,620 --> 00:50:14,560 We could have them. 840 00:50:14,740 --> 00:50:17,260 Yeah, let's do the first chapter of September. 841 00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:19,380 But let's get through September. See where we're at. 842 00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:21,680 And then we plan on building up. 843 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:23,540 And if there are days when we're here for budget, 844 00:50:23,540 --> 00:50:25,760 and they have like, just a short piece for us. 845 00:50:25,860 --> 00:50:26,640 Maybe we can. 846 00:50:26,780 --> 00:50:27,240 I think there's a two. 847 00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:27,600 Yes. 848 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:29,220 Excuse me. 849 00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:29,600 Yeah. 850 00:50:30,020 --> 00:50:30,280 Shell? 851 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:35,360 No, this is just why I said perhaps that each meeting decided. 852 00:50:36,460 --> 00:50:36,820 Yes. 853 00:50:37,100 --> 00:50:38,940 That's why I looked too far out. 854 00:50:39,020 --> 00:50:39,140 Yeah. 855 00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:40,260 That's what I'm trying to get out. 856 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:41,960 Let's get through September 1st. 857 00:50:42,860 --> 00:50:44,140 Thank you for clarifying that. 858 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:44,400 Shell. 859 00:50:45,340 --> 00:50:45,980 All right. 860 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:46,460 Okay. 861 00:50:46,900 --> 00:50:47,760 So, okay. 862 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:48,380 Number five. 863 00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:49,880 We're up to number five. 864 00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,360 Five is the accessory park regulations. 865 00:50:55,720 --> 00:50:56,740 The big table. 866 00:50:57,300 --> 00:51:06,620 step 6 is chapter 207 rental permits. We also have a rental permit section in chapter 283D. They are not consistent. 867 00:51:08,540 --> 00:51:13,100 So we're suggesting that get reconciled and we have some good ideas for that. 868 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:21,700 Is that part of the short-term rental? Is that going to be consistent with a short-term rental code? 869 00:51:21,700 --> 00:51:26,440 rental permits are rental permits. So they're not there. Yes, it will be. Okay. 870 00:51:28,260 --> 00:51:34,660 Step seven is the Hamlet Business Zoning District, the thought being adding apartments as 871 00:51:34,660 --> 00:51:40,240 the permitted French to use. So that's really the big fixer, but when you flip inside here, 872 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:45,920 now there's a whole list of... So you can understand all the chapters and sections we'll 873 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:52,240 So this just runs through a lot of what I just talked about, chapter 17, chapter 34. 874 00:51:52,900 --> 00:52:01,180 I gave up, chapter 112 was fully drafted, Andrea and Julie, and we really worked hard 875 00:52:01,180 --> 00:52:01,620 on this. 876 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:08,640 And we also ran up by our legal consultant for, so this, this is every section of that chapter 877 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:15,020 so you can see, and we'll post this, we've posted, probably tomorrow or Friday, Friday, 878 00:52:15,020 --> 00:52:21,260 Sorry, Fred, my heart dropped a little, it's largely grounded, just need some minor tweaks 879 00:52:21,260 --> 00:52:28,480 and it'll be posted on Friday, stuffalzoningupdate.com. And you could see me covered all of the 880 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:34,760 the particulars of how to regulate the program generally without getting into a lot of specifics 881 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:41,740 that the town board will change by all of these. Now, if it's going back to items that are in the 882 00:52:41,740 --> 00:52:43,820 of business, zoning, district. 883 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:44,380 Yeah. 884 00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:44,940 Yeah. 885 00:52:45,380 --> 00:52:51,400 Even when I talked about housing, the town hall, the town had taken that parcel by eminent 886 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:59,080 domain years ago, and we've been going it ever since, um, that would be an ideal location 887 00:52:59,080 --> 00:52:59,860 for housing. 888 00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:06,560 Was that something that we would, that would be changed in this to facilitate housing there? 889 00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:12,840 I think when we talk about community housing overlay, that's what's going to allow what we want to do there. 890 00:53:13,180 --> 00:53:13,480 Okay. 891 00:53:14,180 --> 00:53:18,500 So that would be a good opportunity, I think, for a good low-page law system for housing. 892 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:19,540 All right. 893 00:53:20,620 --> 00:53:22,400 Chapter 17 starts with full credits. 894 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:24,480 Talks a little bit about what we're doing in that. 895 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:32,180 If you go to page four, we have the rental permit suggestion to move it back to chapter 28. 896 00:53:34,060 --> 00:53:35,420 So it's all in one place. 897 00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:43,820 Chapter 240, we have to revise to take out the obsolete and add chapter 112 references. 898 00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,220 And then zoning is the big one, obviously. 899 00:53:47,660 --> 00:53:49,460 You've got to think about both schedules. 900 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:57,780 We already have some new definitions that you'll see in the community housing chapter 112. 901 00:53:58,380 --> 00:54:03,600 And then there are a bunch of definitions we're looking to make consistent with state building 902 00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:04,020 code. 903 00:54:04,020 --> 00:54:10,960 and other chapters, things like dwelling, apartment, those are just examples, there's a long list. 904 00:54:13,340 --> 00:54:18,820 The tree housing overlays a big one in 280 of some other minor sections. 905 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:26,680 And then the last part of this starting on page 5 is basically looking at every zoning district 906 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:31,820 and every reference to some sort of dwelling, whether it be sickle family, two family. 907 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:39,100 and making sure all of those things match up and match the definitions and our appropriate 908 00:54:39,780 --> 00:54:44,040 and our consistent across districts where that's appropriate. 909 00:54:46,060 --> 00:54:53,120 And so this is just the existing code, pages 5, 6, 7, 8, but it shows you the number of sections 910 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,300 we're actually reviewing, so you can see that we're going to match that up. 911 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:56,560 Yeah. 912 00:54:56,820 --> 00:55:01,280 that's really appreciate all the work that's been done in this life. We have all this work, 913 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,180 because we've never done it in this life. Right. Right. It's all that I don't know, little bits. 914 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:12,280 Now, um, have you brought Mike very into this? Yeah. Are you okay? I've been meeting with him 915 00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:17,220 like when we were talking about definitions of things. I've been talking to Mike. Um, you know, 916 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:23,800 mental formats, but um, he liked the idea of moving it back to 280. Yeah. Um, and just, you know, 917 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:29,180 So going definitely, you know, he's so busy but finding time to sit down with him and go 918 00:55:29,180 --> 00:55:29,420 down. 919 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:33,180 As long as he's in the conversation because he's, you know, he's got to be. 920 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:34,080 He's got to be. 921 00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:34,720 He's got to be. 922 00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:36,860 He's the one that we're viewing it once it's implemented. 923 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:39,280 Now, I have a communications question. 924 00:55:39,620 --> 00:55:44,460 Can you get a button or something or widget or something on our website that points to your 925 00:55:44,460 --> 00:55:49,640 South old zoning update project website so that they, it just reroutes, you know, something 926 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,940 because it's an idea, you know, because I think I was just looking. 927 00:55:52,940 --> 00:56:04,880 We have the the CHAB page on our website is deactivated right now. It says sorry nothing here. Oh the housing advisory. Yeah, the CHAB one is just a font but the HAC is still active. 928 00:56:05,100 --> 00:56:06,940 So put those interesting. 929 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,340 And then we also have the community development and housing page still to. 930 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:15,680 And so I'm just thinking about where these things should live and if we're going to put a link. 931 00:56:16,500 --> 00:56:21,280 So there's a central, you've created this great central tool, how to float people to it, 932 00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:26,040 and maybe our goal to communications, maybe is to have the website as.gov and the 933 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:30,000 spokes go out so if we could just have an easy way to start there and get to your site 934 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:30,400 to be. 935 00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:35,000 Well, this actually leads me to, and it has to do with communication is what we're calling 936 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:40,720 planning, because one of the things we were talking about was calling it, Department of Planning 937 00:56:40,720 --> 00:56:46,200 but then have two divisions in a division of planning, a division of housing, and if that's okay 938 00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:49,780 with everyone, it's excellent. We could change the website to make them look better. Absolutely, 939 00:56:50,020 --> 00:56:58,240 and then people can find it. Yeah, it's easy. We can put a link in the main... I think we should... 940 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:05,500 Yes, we do this. Which is meant to be our business. Well, we're just on the town board on the first 941 00:57:05,500 --> 00:57:10,300 site, the quick links thing, or wherever, under the under when you first get to south hold down. 942 00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:16,740 Um, you know, this page somewhere, yeah, the home page, yeah, well, so what do we have? 943 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:21,860 We have a lot of times we do that on quick links or news, but you're talking more permanent. 944 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:22,900 Maybe we could put it. 945 00:57:22,900 --> 00:57:26,700 You mean like, oh, we can't, we can't because we don't have the, we don't have the, we don't have to. 946 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,620 We don't have the, we don't have the, we don't have the, we don't have the, we're talking about the stuff. 947 00:57:29,740 --> 00:57:31,280 However, we could put it under here. 948 00:57:31,380 --> 00:57:33,780 I think it should be a major freedom here. 949 00:57:34,380 --> 00:57:34,700 Yeah. 950 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:36,940 And then, and I think, well, where would it fit label? 951 00:57:36,940 --> 00:57:39,680 will seem to be somewhere that before the heart is set. 952 00:57:39,900 --> 00:57:41,940 That before the heart is set, what would it be called? 953 00:57:42,820 --> 00:57:44,160 So, may I say foul police. 954 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:45,140 Sounds a little interesting. 955 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:45,720 Okay. 956 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:46,200 Yeah. 957 00:57:46,340 --> 00:57:49,920 I mean another possibility would be put it in other quick links, just at the very top of 958 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,580 quick links and just have it always lit there. 959 00:57:52,380 --> 00:57:53,160 But I like... 960 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,340 I think it's better than the main, but okay. 961 00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:57,320 So it's kind of... 962 00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:58,160 It gets very modern. 963 00:57:59,040 --> 00:57:59,080 It's better than the word Wolfair. 964 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,740 But I think it's better than the main. 965 00:58:02,660 --> 00:58:03,680 I think it's better than the main. 966 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:07,800 really well. And then, eight, that's what's happening. 967 00:58:08,060 --> 00:58:10,680 I think the way you describe it, you can get shut down, right? 968 00:58:10,820 --> 00:58:17,660 It doesn't have the HP can get handled. Yeah, I had a member updated those pages, but 969 00:58:17,660 --> 00:58:20,840 I don't know, maybe it's like a broken link or something somewhere else. 970 00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,460 So I'm going to check with Liam and, yeah, I thought that was on today. 971 00:58:24,780 --> 00:58:25,320 Right. Yeah, right. 972 00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:26,600 Missing length. 973 00:58:29,380 --> 00:58:34,520 I think, I think that's a really good conversation, which has had that 974 00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:40,880 because we've got so much input in the last few years on this housing topic and it keeping 975 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:45,280 people out of the day, it's going to make the process work faster because people are 976 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:49,200 going to be like, oh, that's what we've been talking about, that's what our comments 977 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:53,940 have been. Now we can see it in black and white, these are the changes, we'd like to support 978 00:58:53,940 --> 00:58:58,240 it, and then we can move quicker, so most of the questions are in that area. 979 00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,120 I think to your point where things, so many things are getting done in the background, nobody 980 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:07,640 sees it, they can actually go and see it. Oh, they're working on this, they're working on that. 981 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:15,600 So public info session, okay, on the 29th and we'll have had two co-committees so we should 982 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:20,760 have plenty to talk about. Yes, I think it's great. With a Zoom link to the public, yeah. 983 00:59:21,460 --> 00:59:25,720 Where are we going to have the right center? Meeting hall, meeting center, so you know. 984 00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:32,100 Okay, 985 00:59:32,100 --> 00:59:38,960 I was going to say that's what I was going to say. So, why are you doing this? It's really just this party. 986 00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:39,840 Right. 987 00:59:41,180 --> 00:59:42,660 That's what I was going to say. 988 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,100 I just want to see what I would be supposed to do. 989 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,100 I assume surprise party. 990 00:59:48,500 --> 00:59:49,740 I already have that on the calendar. 991 00:59:49,820 --> 00:59:50,100 Mr. 992 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:50,760 Yeah. 993 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:51,500 Yeah. 994 00:59:52,100 --> 00:59:52,400 Okay. 995 00:59:54,340 --> 00:59:55,700 I can do this. 996 00:59:55,980 --> 00:59:56,400 Okay. 997 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:57,460 Okay, great idea. 998 00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,060 Good, I was just gonna ask for a minute. 999 00:59:59,320 --> 00:59:59,820 This is really good. 1000 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:29,160 Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. So, Alexa, you're up next, unless you want to wait. We can, we can wait until 10, 15, if you'd like. We'll have the solar project. Yeah. Let's take it. We have other members. Okay. The solar project. Yeah. And then we'll take a short break. Perfect. So the update on the solar project is we have a contract without. 1001 01:00:30,060 --> 01:00:32,460 to the company that we're working with. 1002 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,300 We have a few minor issues that we're working out. 1003 01:00:36,740 --> 01:00:37,380 We're very close. 1004 01:00:37,620 --> 01:00:39,900 Everyone's still very interested in getting this on. 1005 01:00:40,300 --> 01:00:42,780 So, the assistant town of Tunisia will give me 1006 01:00:42,780 --> 01:00:47,000 as well to the other way to counsel for some average energy 1007 01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,800 and they have vacation in the next couple of weeks, 1008 01:00:50,900 --> 01:00:52,660 but we're hopeful in the next couple of weeks 1009 01:00:52,660 --> 01:00:56,100 to get this back on track and agree with contract 1010 01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:57,860 and they'll be back in the planning state. 1011 01:00:57,860 --> 01:01:07,720 Can you just give us summary, not of the contract, but of the projects because, and then people will know the reason why I'm been pushing this and keeping it up. 1012 01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:11,680 This has been going on for years and years. 1013 01:01:12,140 --> 01:01:17,340 There was an RFP, you know, it's been, I don't know, almost 10 years now. 1014 01:01:17,340 --> 01:01:20,240 Yeah, I thought it was, you know, it was on to it. 1015 01:01:20,540 --> 01:01:25,440 So we hit a number of snags along the way. 1016 01:01:25,740 --> 01:01:30,160 Essentially, we were able to add a provision 1017 01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,500 where the town will be provided some energy credits 1018 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,860 for having solar on the cast landfill. 1019 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,120 It's gone through a lot of iterations, 1020 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:46,400 but we are hopeful that next few weeks to a month 1021 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,500 We'll have something moving forward back into the planning stages. 1022 01:01:50,220 --> 01:01:56,080 And it's a multi-year contract with a lot of money coming into the town. 1023 01:01:56,460 --> 01:02:00,120 That will help with, hopefully, for structure and other things. 1024 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:06,220 And it's a combination of revenue but then also discounted less of the city, right? 1025 01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:11,660 So it's a yearly, I'm somewhere between, there's an escalator, but it's somewhere between 1026 01:02:11,660 --> 01:02:17,060 mean $200,000 a year for the right to have those solar panels on the cap 1027 01:02:17,060 --> 01:02:21,820 landfill. That's right. And then there is a discount on energy 1028 01:02:21,820 --> 01:02:25,560 credits. So that will be a type of town, just about 12%. 1029 01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,120 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that was the big thing that 1030 01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:32,540 was electrifies and being right. And we, you know, we wanted to get that back 1031 01:02:32,540 --> 01:02:36,400 to our own community instead of going outside of 1032 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,020 of South Pole. So that was a big thing. And and what how many years is the 1033 01:02:40,020 --> 01:02:45,040 contract. 30 plus years. 30 plus years and when the infrastructure becomes 1034 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:50,060 obsolete, they pay to remove it. Yeah, it got a roll. There's really no expense to 1035 01:02:50,060 --> 01:02:54,460 the town. It can come to the town. Well, and it's land that we tried to pursue this 1036 01:02:54,460 --> 01:02:59,360 years ago. Anything else. And that should be used for this. Yeah, yeah. So big of 1037 01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:06,120 power all over again. Yeah, right. You guys let the way. That was the model. Thank 1038 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,900 you. We can see it as a race. You know, like who gets who gets 1039 01:03:09,900 --> 01:03:11,440 It's the first solo panel first. 1040 01:03:12,100 --> 01:03:12,640 Oh boy. 1041 01:03:13,120 --> 01:03:13,800 All right. 1042 01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,680 We'll have a break until 10th and 15th. 1043 01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:17,680 Thank you. 1044 01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:19,940 It's good. 1045 01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:25,340 Hey guys, welcome. 1046 01:03:25,660 --> 01:03:26,200 Good morning. 1047 01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:26,860 Good to know. 1048 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:27,520 Hello. 1049 01:03:28,180 --> 01:03:28,980 Say hi. 1050 01:03:28,980 --> 01:03:29,880 How have you had Alexa? 1051 01:03:30,220 --> 01:03:35,800 Yeah, so our next item is from the EDC. 1052 01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:38,780 So for we were joined by Chair Jack Nulling, 1053 01:03:38,780 --> 01:03:45,560 and a co-chair at Ballroom in Berlin, which I met with as a member of a work model for coming. 1054 01:03:46,180 --> 01:03:51,540 And we're discussing today the proposal for the EDCs, Southlotein Economic Development 1055 01:03:51,540 --> 01:03:59,780 Annual Survey. So there has not been a survey done by the EDCs since 2021. So the whole idea 1056 01:03:59,780 --> 01:04:06,580 that the EDCs have is to put that gain a little bit more insight into the small businesses 1057 01:04:06,580 --> 01:04:09,480 This is a South Hotel, small businesses run as we know, 1058 01:04:09,620 --> 01:04:12,180 run our economic engine here, so we want to make sure 1059 01:04:12,180 --> 01:04:15,580 that we are providing help for small businesses, 1060 01:04:15,740 --> 01:04:18,920 whether that means, you know, reimagining policies 1061 01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:22,320 or providing more resources, and the idea 1062 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:25,280 of the survey came up to being very concrete 1063 01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:26,700 for making data. 1064 01:04:27,340 --> 01:04:29,900 So, Paul Jack, do you have any questions? 1065 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:31,500 No, I guess so, yeah. 1066 01:04:31,820 --> 01:04:34,440 I understand you will have that copy of the survey 1067 01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:36,080 and I'll continue to look at it. 1068 01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,160 So I'd love to entertain some questions regarding it. 1069 01:04:39,260 --> 01:04:41,580 I mean, our objective is to keep this thing short and sweet. 1070 01:04:42,980 --> 01:04:48,200 And basically, I make it really somewhere, 1071 01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:51,640 somebody will say, OK, it's going to take me 10 to 15 minutes to complete this thing. 1072 01:04:52,020 --> 01:04:55,380 And advertise that by another couple of letters. 1073 01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:57,080 People don't look at it. 1074 01:04:57,340 --> 01:04:58,340 Oh, God, another survey. 1075 01:04:58,540 --> 01:04:59,360 And I'm not going to do it. 1076 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,780 So let's, I don't believe we can get that book in that direction. 1077 01:05:04,140 --> 01:05:05,040 What's the lesson? 1078 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:13,840 The whole scope is really to try and get people to fill out without oververting them 1079 01:05:13,840 --> 01:05:15,680 and discussing everything else. 1080 01:05:15,900 --> 01:05:21,680 We went to a lot of different questions, a lot of finessing it to make sure that the questions 1081 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:30,240 were accurate, not leading it anyway, but also making sure that it's easy for somebody to fill out. 1082 01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:31,960 And you get some good information then. 1083 01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:32,420 Exactly. 1084 01:05:32,980 --> 01:05:34,900 And our intent, frankly, is do it every year. 1085 01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:40,940 You know, maybe modify a question or two based on issues that come up or arise. 1086 01:05:41,500 --> 01:05:49,200 Or, frankly, if there's some outstanding glaring things that come out of this survey, perhaps 1087 01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:53,540 secondary follow-up survey for more detail on that particular topic or subject. 1088 01:05:53,540 --> 01:06:03,420 You know, it should be noted by May that's a quite a lot of time energy has been put into putting together synergy summits for the past few years. 1089 01:06:03,540 --> 01:06:17,820 So, the DCs don't have a fantastic job of that. Those synergy summits brought together the chambers, the libraries, any communities from leaders nonprofits, any community leader that you could think of along with business groups came together to discuss these issues. 1090 01:06:17,820 --> 01:06:23,120 But I think what the survey does really well is it gives us a baseline of data that can 1091 01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,600 be used for the next year in comparison. 1092 01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,280 So we know what issues are needed to be solved immediately, which is going to be put 1093 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,280 on the back burner, and what has gotten better. 1094 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:38,060 And I like the community engagement too with the business community currently, because then 1095 01:06:38,060 --> 01:06:42,620 you have people saying, okay, I'm filling this out, okay, sure, what does that mean? 1096 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:44,880 But then we're doing all this housing work. 1097 01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:50,040 So maybe they'll spark an interest to make sure they read what we're doing with the housing 1098 01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:54,300 work and being able to reach that. So that's what I like about it. It's also going to engage 1099 01:06:54,300 --> 01:07:01,420 on people. The greatest challenge we're going to have is the reach. We don't want to just reach 1100 01:07:01,420 --> 01:07:09,960 out to the chambers of commerce, you know, or at Martin or the maritime industry, but the plumbers, 1101 01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:19,360 the contractor. It should be maybe a category of trades landscaping on your, have you discussed that? 1102 01:07:19,380 --> 01:07:24,320 Well, yeah, we discussed we had a list very long as we shortened it, that is one possibly, but 1103 01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:30,380 but there's a lot of different trades in that regard, so I want to make sure we make it easy for some 1104 01:07:30,380 --> 01:07:38,660 of these little stuffy out on there. We don't hit the mark on this service. And we're going to 1105 01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:47,900 pull from even licensing, licensing from self-cantic and super-versa, 1106 01:07:48,100 --> 01:07:52,020 so visit the former plumbers of the East End, home improvement contractors. 1107 01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,300 Everyone's got a home improvement or a plumbing or electrical license, 1108 01:07:56,160 --> 01:07:58,380 and Suffolk County will pull out self-cultated. 1109 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:00,980 It seems to me it's getting a basis. It's a story. 1110 01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:02,780 Yeah, so you can use that for every time. 1111 01:08:02,940 --> 01:08:05,080 You definitely want to reach as many businesses. 1112 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:06,000 It's a good news. 1113 01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:08,100 Send this to a low-down bar of irritants. 1114 01:08:08,340 --> 01:08:09,980 Yes, it's on the list. 1115 01:08:09,980 --> 01:08:16,540 Yeah. A secondary objective from this is to get a combined, a lot of different sensors 1116 01:08:16,540 --> 01:08:21,000 that we get as a result of this survey, because people may use and queue our codes. We're 1117 01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:25,740 going to be leveraging going out and walking around. And so if we can get a consolidated 1118 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:31,640 database of businesses in this town, it would be very helpful. Yeah. I know I'm trying to find 1119 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:36,920 somebody to do some paving work. Well, it's panning back. You can't. You get three items if you do it 1120 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:42,520 a Google search, and I'd like to be able to go to the town's website and say, give me somebody 1121 01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:46,360 that does this, whatever business it is. And I think we've got every great thing on the 1122 01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:51,700 town database as well. So that's a secondary objective of this thing, right? I'd like to see a few more 1123 01:08:51,700 --> 01:08:58,860 categories in the list without making it unwieldy so that people feel more included instead of checking 1124 01:08:58,860 --> 01:09:05,140 always other as being they are. I think that you know some people might you know 1125 01:09:05,140 --> 01:09:10,220 feel a little left out in that I mean things like communications, nonprofit 1126 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:16,340 organizations and you know some of the bigger categories that that the 1127 01:09:16,340 --> 01:09:20,660 comprehensive plan outlined as being what the businesses in the town of 1128 01:09:20,660 --> 01:09:27,560 South old are instead of using just the generic few categories so I'd be nice if we 1129 01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:32,560 could do something with that. We get it. We get it. We get it. I think that's a great idea. 1130 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:36,120 Aligning it with the comp plan is, is, is, is, is, particularly. That's actually a little 1131 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:39,580 ball. Yeah, exactly. But just to the point about the categories, I mean, just looking at this 1132 01:09:39,580 --> 01:09:44,520 purely because I, you know, put on the fish pile and half per second, all we have are, are the trades 1133 01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:49,700 in landscaping and nonprofits. So everything would be other on this list. So just, to the point 1134 01:09:49,700 --> 01:09:53,900 about inclusiveness, you know, just sort of trying to, and I think the nonprofit is such a huge point 1135 01:09:53,900 --> 01:09:56,100 to kind of daylight and make that transparent. 1136 01:09:56,300 --> 01:09:57,920 It's such important people who are working 1137 01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:00,260 and leading these institutions are, you know, 1138 01:10:00,300 --> 01:10:01,680 year-round families who are living here 1139 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:02,620 are a part of the community. 1140 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:03,760 And hiring people. 1141 01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:04,920 And hiring people and getting them to do it. 1142 01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:05,920 They have a lot of payroll. 1143 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:07,560 They're businesses, yeah. 1144 01:10:07,820 --> 01:10:09,400 So, yeah, no question about that. 1145 01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:12,320 And we do want to have this survey available. 1146 01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:13,560 It's Spanish as well. 1147 01:10:13,740 --> 01:10:14,140 Awesome. 1148 01:10:14,580 --> 01:10:16,400 So, we get everyone, there's a lot of, 1149 01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:18,820 a lot of new growing business out here 1150 01:10:18,820 --> 01:10:20,760 with a span of names on their trucks, 1151 01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:26,280 to vent goals and they're part of this community as well and opening businesses want to make sure 1152 01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:32,720 we reach out to them. It should be noted too that Paul drafted this survey, he did still using 1153 01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:37,680 the comp plan at the base, so this is all based on that. Yeah, I know this is not planned, it's 1154 01:10:37,680 --> 01:10:44,520 still fairly clear. It is relevant. And I think you had a question about. Number six. Yes. 1155 01:10:44,520 --> 01:10:50,000 going to add a category of seasonality of work demand because there's a lot of demand 1156 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:55,800 for labor in the summer and into the fall and then all of a sudden it drops off and 1157 01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:59,980 I know that's a big challenge for a lot of people that are seasonal pithuses because 1158 01:10:59,980 --> 01:11:07,160 several is competing. Finding seasonal employees might add people in that season with my 1159 01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:13,340 season. Yeah. And then I know you had a question also about number 11. Yes. 1160 01:11:13,340 --> 01:11:15,460 And I wanted to refer back to that. 1161 01:11:15,860 --> 01:11:18,960 So a business incubator, entrepreneurship center, 1162 01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,080 or even a program that doesn't necessarily 1163 01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:24,680 have a physical location is in the comp plan 1164 01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:26,260 under objective 1.4. 1165 01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:29,580 So it is something that the EDC is also considering 1166 01:11:29,580 --> 01:11:31,760 as a goal being that it is in the comp plan 1167 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:32,840 of what the EDC is doing. 1168 01:11:33,900 --> 01:11:36,580 Yeah, we're doing what it does with thoughts about that, 1169 01:11:36,700 --> 01:11:37,280 that's all of us. 1170 01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:39,460 This is great. 1171 01:11:39,740 --> 01:11:40,640 It's really good work. 1172 01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:48,620 Yeah, and, you know, we included a question about the corpules, the report slowly, so we can extrapolate out there, some else we can share with them. 1173 01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:54,060 Oh, yeah, they're part of the town and those businesses don't operate in the village. 1174 01:11:54,480 --> 01:11:54,580 Exactly. 1175 01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:55,360 They operate everywhere. 1176 01:11:55,780 --> 01:11:55,900 Yeah. 1177 01:11:56,860 --> 01:12:01,260 It is, I think the differentiation is also important, though, given that they had their own zoning. 1178 01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:01,700 Yes. 1179 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:02,180 Yeah. 1180 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:02,840 Yeah. 1181 01:12:04,700 --> 01:12:05,120 Great. 1182 01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:05,600 Thank you. 1183 01:12:06,460 --> 01:12:09,200 So yeah, we'll modify a few of the questions. 1184 01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:14,160 And then how are you getting it out in what communication forms? 1185 01:12:14,700 --> 01:12:15,720 Well, that's a great question. 1186 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:20,620 I mean, I think we really want to rely on the town's website for the survey 1187 01:12:20,620 --> 01:12:22,300 just like your cell phone survey. 1188 01:12:23,180 --> 01:12:23,240 Yeah. 1189 01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:29,200 So I mean, as a group, through the town and through all the other organizations 1190 01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,640 need to market the hell out of it. 1191 01:12:32,780 --> 01:12:39,140 to reach out to every group, create a couple of QR codes and take it right to the site stuff. 1192 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:45,060 We have some lists already from the Chambers, but we really need to really get it. 1193 01:12:45,140 --> 01:12:47,620 And actually, what I was going to write is the QR code. 1194 01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:48,460 Yeah, supermodel. 1195 01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:50,180 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1196 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:56,600 I think we want to try to range in an interview with some times, and not for a son. 1197 01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,320 Yeah, there is a whole bunch of reviews. 1198 01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:03,300 So again, there was a whole strategy that was actually drafted up. 1199 01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:05,100 It wasn't unfortunately included in this. 1200 01:13:05,480 --> 01:13:09,760 But there's a strategy document includes a formula for sample size calculations. 1201 01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:15,060 It includes dissemination strategies, business groups, websites, social media, physical locations, 1202 01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,880 media, interviews, things like that. 1203 01:13:19,340 --> 01:13:21,220 I think we do a very documented stress. 1204 01:13:21,420 --> 01:13:22,380 I can send that around. 1205 01:13:22,500 --> 01:13:23,340 And what's your teleboard? 1206 01:13:24,340 --> 01:13:25,380 That's a good question. 1207 01:13:27,900 --> 01:13:33,400 We had our last meeting, we said, let's get this thing out before this meeting, I'll get 1208 01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:38,440 it to you long before this meeting, you have to work on it, and best late plans sometimes 1209 01:13:38,440 --> 01:13:39,300 just don't get done. 1210 01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:43,860 But now we're ready to go with this thing and we're ready to roll it so as we can, and 1211 01:13:43,860 --> 01:13:49,100 you know, I know the deadline for submission so that you say, okay, it's very close. 1212 01:13:50,220 --> 01:13:53,040 I would say, into end of this month, we'd get it out. 1213 01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:56,960 to start it. And then the idea was to have it open for about eight weeks. 1214 01:13:57,140 --> 01:14:00,400 If we need to extend it to get the correct sample size, then we will. 1215 01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:05,200 But I think eight weeks, because all is a busy time for some businesses as well. 1216 01:14:05,800 --> 01:14:09,180 It is, but we also wanted to catch the end of the season. 1217 01:14:09,840 --> 01:14:11,760 That's why you need to get the end of it. 1218 01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:17,360 When the obstacles are fresh in your mind, because you're still trying to deal with all of them. 1219 01:14:17,440 --> 01:14:20,560 It's a good time to get people to articulate specifically 1220 01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:25,560 you know, what are one or two things that would change that would make next season kind of for you. 1221 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:28,120 So this point about season and seasonality. 1222 01:14:28,440 --> 01:14:34,360 I mean, is there also a way of framing this so that you're capturing some businesses that seasons are high season is different? 1223 01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:41,480 You know, I mean, there could be a way of maybe just a little bit more fine tuning, 1224 01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:46,480 what seasonal means in terms of trying to capture the data of which peak, you know, 1225 01:14:46,480 --> 01:14:50,400 more in shoulder seasons or winter in which we are peaking in the summer. Just because 1226 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,580 of being agricultural and all these different things are all these different rhythms 1227 01:14:53,580 --> 01:14:58,040 of play. And if you are trying to capture the maximum amount of data that might be happening 1228 01:14:58,040 --> 01:14:58,940 in the second phase. 1229 01:14:58,940 --> 01:14:59,940 Well, I think the good 1230 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:08,060 This is the way we structure this. If we put this all this into a database, we can then extrapolate 1231 01:15:08,060 --> 01:15:15,380 up by industry or by township fishes on. Seas down is going to be different than, you know, 1232 01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,680 we can extrapolate out and track that as well. 1233 01:15:20,700 --> 01:15:22,420 I mean, I guess the question be, how would 1234 01:15:22,420 --> 01:15:26,100 you characterize your operations seasonal only? I mean, could there be a way of advocating 1235 01:15:26,100 --> 01:15:34,040 not to, you know, summer, you know, kind of like, date made to the kind of made to, you can have an open 1236 01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:37,620 lot of as well. Yeah, what's your status as a policy? Yeah, exactly. Explain your 1237 01:15:37,620 --> 01:15:43,360 high season, like your dates of your season. Yeah. One month. That might be a little interesting 1238 01:15:45,220 --> 01:15:50,360 pattern. Yeah. It's also tricky because there are so many businesses that essentially operate 1239 01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:55,320 two businesses in one business, right? So in the summer, you're you're a nursery and in the winter, 1240 01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:59,680 you have a simpler, right? And that's what you have, is that's what you need to do, right? 1241 01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:03,140 To employ you around. So that's where you get a little bit more troops. 1242 01:16:03,980 --> 01:16:08,160 That's what happens if you get to that point where you have to employ you around that, 1243 01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:12,680 keep good employees, then you have, develop all the businesses that keep the good employees. 1244 01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:16,480 Right, yeah. The Moliascans aren't seasonal anymore, they're year-round. 1245 01:16:16,860 --> 01:16:17,840 Right. Sorry. 1246 01:16:18,580 --> 01:16:18,660 Yeah. 1247 01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:20,460 Okay, so there's... Oh, sorry. 1248 01:16:20,660 --> 01:16:22,260 No, I'm sorry. I just wanted to go over the changes. 1249 01:16:22,260 --> 01:16:27,600 So we have the primary industry sector adding just a couple more not so much to make it 1250 01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,720 onerous for trades, construction, non-problems. 1251 01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:32,120 George had a good list of that. 1252 01:16:32,340 --> 01:16:33,540 We'll go through the rest of those. 1253 01:16:33,620 --> 01:16:40,000 I got in the comp plan in the B section with all the charts, even though it's 10 years old, 1254 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:47,140 it's a very good outline of what our businesses were 10 years ago by proportion and what 1255 01:16:47,140 --> 01:16:50,780 I think it was page 8, 7 or something. 1256 01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:53,380 Business world, that's like under here to go. 1257 01:16:54,700 --> 01:16:57,280 But there's something that we definitely can pass through. 1258 01:16:57,640 --> 01:16:59,340 So without getting too crazy for that guy. 1259 01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:00,380 Okay. 1260 01:17:00,740 --> 01:17:04,500 And then adding it under maybe seasonal only, adding months. 1261 01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:05,180 Yeah. 1262 01:17:05,760 --> 01:17:07,160 High season or whatever. 1263 01:17:08,100 --> 01:17:08,620 Time frame. 1264 01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:09,280 Yeah. 1265 01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:10,720 Months. 1266 01:17:11,860 --> 01:17:13,280 And then number seven. 1267 01:17:18,380 --> 01:17:18,720 Yeah. 1268 01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:23,320 That was it. 1269 01:17:23,380 --> 01:17:23,480 Yeah. 1270 01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:23,960 I think that was it. 1271 01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:25,200 Any other changes? 1272 01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:26,200 Are we in some media sites? 1273 01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:26,840 No. 1274 01:17:26,980 --> 01:17:27,440 That was great. 1275 01:17:28,860 --> 01:17:29,960 And then you made it. 1276 01:17:30,140 --> 01:17:31,720 So it's workable. 1277 01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:32,340 You're busy. 1278 01:17:33,100 --> 01:17:35,960 You can take a look at this and say, yeah, I can fill this out. 1279 01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:36,480 Pretty much. 1280 01:17:36,580 --> 01:17:37,260 I can use it. 1281 01:17:37,380 --> 01:17:37,500 Click. 1282 01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:38,060 Yeah. 1283 01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:39,300 Get through most of the questions. 1284 01:17:39,540 --> 01:17:39,680 Yeah. 1285 01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:41,720 There's various affiliates on the other lines. 1286 01:17:41,980 --> 01:17:42,200 Yeah. 1287 01:17:43,140 --> 01:17:44,580 Try to make these efficient as possible. 1288 01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:45,460 It's looking what we need out. 1289 01:17:45,460 --> 01:17:51,220 And what about paper form, because some people still like paper form, where can they 1290 01:17:51,220 --> 01:17:51,860 receive that? 1291 01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:55,060 Have some available at the clerk's office, just like we did at the communications. 1292 01:17:55,740 --> 01:17:56,540 I mean, a wide version. 1293 01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:57,360 Yeah. 1294 01:17:57,660 --> 01:17:57,780 Yeah. 1295 01:17:57,900 --> 01:17:58,220 Right. 1296 01:17:58,880 --> 01:17:59,000 Yeah. 1297 01:17:59,240 --> 01:17:59,500 Yeah. 1298 01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:00,280 Yeah. 1299 01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:03,200 They can print their own. 1300 01:18:03,380 --> 01:18:03,740 Yeah. 1301 01:18:03,860 --> 01:18:04,020 Yeah. 1302 01:18:04,340 --> 01:18:04,740 They can print their own. 1303 01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:04,820 Yeah. 1304 01:18:04,820 --> 01:18:05,540 They can print their own. 1305 01:18:05,540 --> 01:18:11,680 Yeah, and then I mean the goal really hopefully is you know, if we do this I really really stuff you know get trends 1306 01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:13,000 You know really 1307 01:18:13,620 --> 01:18:20,960 To be more pretty. Yeah, yeah, and I like the mk4 or to be able to say oh, I should be following bad, right? 1308 01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:22,060 Absolutely 1309 01:18:23,260 --> 01:18:31,500 I'm just saying thank you to the volunteers. So you're all individually, you know business people and you have business active in your smart guys 1310 01:18:31,500 --> 01:18:34,820 So I just thank you for adding that collectively for the success 1311 01:18:35,540 --> 01:18:38,240 all of South old town business. You don't have to do that, but your 1312 01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:41,260 volunteer to make things better. That's essential for the our 1313 01:18:41,260 --> 01:18:44,520 economy, it's essential for coding up all the things that we're 1314 01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:47,300 working on in the town. This is essential knowledge that we're 1315 01:18:47,300 --> 01:18:49,460 trying to achieve and I appreciate that you guys are at the center 1316 01:18:49,460 --> 01:18:52,820 of it. So if we don't get paid. No, it's volunteer. You sign up 1317 01:18:52,820 --> 01:18:56,500 back. You know, it was a commercial. Thank you, thank you, thank 1318 01:18:56,500 --> 01:18:58,460 you. I appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks. 1319 01:19:01,180 --> 01:19:06,520 Well, I'll find big edits tonight. 1320 01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:06,900 Okay. 1321 01:19:07,300 --> 01:19:08,060 I'll email you. 1322 01:19:10,040 --> 01:19:11,000 I'll send it to Rio. 1323 01:19:11,260 --> 01:19:12,520 It's, it's, it's, it's a full meal. 1324 01:19:12,860 --> 01:19:16,440 I don't know if you remember our, if I remembered about all the tension dollars, I heard 1325 01:19:16,440 --> 01:19:16,780 tell you. 1326 01:19:17,100 --> 01:19:19,800 Oh, so I wanted to go back to the market and report. 1327 01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:20,940 I was, I was going to send it. 1328 01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:22,280 You can't heat anger to the public. 1329 01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:25,440 You have to get something somewhere come viral because we used these regard, you can 1330 01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:28,440 be, well, it's over-bite in the house and it's good to have it. 1331 01:19:28,540 --> 01:19:28,640 I would. 1332 01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:44,280 Yeah, but it's also hard, and it's always been the case, such as housing, if you live far 1333 01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:48,340 away and you've got a good job opportunity to travel for it, because you don't want 1334 01:19:48,340 --> 01:19:51,540 to fully eat that, so you don't want to fully eat that. 1335 01:19:51,540 --> 01:19:56,700 So even if it's housing, here, you still get one, but it's sort of provides the 1336 01:19:56,700 --> 01:20:04,240 better side. So it wouldn't be a board meeting in 2026 if we didn't discuss the public safety 1337 01:20:04,240 --> 01:20:05,280 committee's working rooms. 1338 01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:18,460 It's a good board to work with. I can't remember. It's a very good board. 1339 01:20:18,460 --> 01:20:24,980 did we end up with a copy of that in the packet? Yes, it's behind the adopted resolution for the last 1340 01:20:24,980 --> 01:20:26,100 meeting. Hello. 1341 01:20:29,180 --> 01:20:33,340 And you have some good ideas about what the focus on. 1342 01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:41,900 And people will remember what they said. Well, I mean, I mean, I think that's okay. 1343 01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:46,340 Okay, well, let me see what you know. Let's see. Yeah, yeah, let's fill up any 1344 01:20:46,340 --> 01:20:52,960 answers. I think I just had, well, we just talked through it, and then we could both 1345 01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:53,560 list first. 1346 01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:58,860 So this was the resolution, the draft resolution we didn't get to last 1347 01:20:58,860 --> 01:21:08,480 time because we were very focused on procedural peaks. And it builds totally on the procedures 1348 01:21:08,480 --> 01:21:14,580 one and is referenced putting the language. So it's already referenced in that previous 1349 01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:21,760 resolution and the where as thanking the task force that all this work going is 1350 01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:26,180 important to happen. So we're going to include it. 1351 01:21:34,630 --> 01:21:35,830 Do we want to do the same thing 1352 01:21:35,830 --> 01:21:36,990 where we read it out loud again? 1353 01:21:38,410 --> 01:21:39,070 Oh go right ahead. 1354 01:21:39,070 --> 01:21:40,530 Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about. 1355 01:21:41,110 --> 01:21:41,590 I can't. 1356 01:21:41,750 --> 01:21:42,190 I can't. 1357 01:21:42,350 --> 01:21:42,730 I can't. 1358 01:21:42,950 --> 01:21:43,250 I can't. 1359 01:21:43,250 --> 01:21:43,490 Yay. 1360 01:21:43,850 --> 01:21:43,990 Yeah. 1361 01:21:43,990 --> 01:21:51,190 Okay, where is by resolution 2026-167 adopted federal attempt 2026, the town board, the town 1362 01:21:51,190 --> 01:21:56,170 of Southport established a public safety task force whose purpose was to examine the health 1363 01:21:56,170 --> 01:22:01,070 safety and welfare concerns associated with federal immigration policy and to examine 1364 01:22:01,070 --> 01:22:06,170 all proposed federal, state, and local legislation for the purpose of advising the town board. 1365 01:22:07,950 --> 01:22:09,270 Any issues there? 1366 01:22:10,610 --> 01:22:10,730 No? 1367 01:22:10,990 --> 01:22:11,110 No. 1368 01:22:11,370 --> 01:22:11,670 Very good. 1369 01:22:11,670 --> 01:22:34,010 Whereas the town board has determined that the public safety task force has completed the tasks outlined in the framework and the towns continued focus on public safety is best served by establishing a standing standing public safety committee charged with communication education and coordination duties or need coordinating coordination of duties. 1370 01:22:34,010 --> 01:22:39,330 So, is this clear enough to say that the task force is an ending, but where is it sent? 1371 01:22:39,670 --> 01:22:43,950 We're sending a different committee with it, so that's not a task. 1372 01:22:44,050 --> 01:22:49,270 The man is saying task force is now called as no, it says that the purpose is solved. 1373 01:22:50,070 --> 01:22:50,470 Oh, okay. 1374 01:22:50,790 --> 01:22:50,890 Sorry. 1375 01:22:51,850 --> 01:22:54,030 Can we take coordination on duties? 1376 01:22:54,210 --> 01:22:54,630 I think so. 1377 01:22:55,170 --> 01:22:55,310 Yeah. 1378 01:22:57,350 --> 01:22:58,190 Can we move on? 1379 01:22:58,570 --> 01:22:58,650 Yes. 1380 01:22:59,570 --> 01:23:04,870 Whereas, the members of the public safety task force have served the talent with distinction 1381 01:23:05,510 --> 01:23:10,490 volunteering their time, expertise, and experience, and expertise, and the town board wishes 1382 01:23:10,490 --> 01:23:15,550 to express its sincere gratitude to each of them for their dedicated service, now therefore 1383 01:23:15,550 --> 01:23:16,230 it be a result. 1384 01:23:16,890 --> 01:23:19,170 But I just, sorry, can we go back to the previous one? 1385 01:23:19,370 --> 01:23:19,430 Yeah. 1386 01:23:19,610 --> 01:23:25,230 I think every word modifies duties, communication duties, education duties, coordination duties. 1387 01:23:25,470 --> 01:23:25,650 Yeah. 1388 01:23:25,890 --> 01:23:28,250 So I don't think it is of apologies. 1389 01:23:28,490 --> 01:23:33,190 No, it's okay, but I, and I think it's okay to be ION instead of coordinating. 1390 01:23:33,430 --> 01:23:34,010 I think it's coordination. 1391 01:23:34,010 --> 01:23:36,230 Yeah, I think it's okay. Okay. 1392 01:23:39,170 --> 01:23:41,890 Okay. Recognize their time. 1393 01:23:42,890 --> 01:23:47,170 Therefore, we have resolved that the work of the Public Safety Task Force is hereby included. 1394 01:23:47,610 --> 01:23:48,210 Yes. 1395 01:23:48,810 --> 01:23:55,070 And the Public Safety Task Force established by Resolution 2026-167 is hereby dissolved. 1396 01:23:56,310 --> 01:23:56,950 Done. Okay. 1397 01:23:56,950 --> 01:24:01,550 and be a further resolve that the town board hereby establishes a public safety committee 1398 01:24:01,550 --> 01:24:07,070 to meet at least quarterly and more often as needed openly and in accordance with the 1399 01:24:07,070 --> 01:24:12,290 open meetings law and the town standard committee rules and regulations to serve a term of 1400 01:24:12,290 --> 01:24:17,190 one year renewable by the town board as its annual organizational meeting and to consist 1401 01:24:17,190 --> 01:24:18,330 of the following members. 1402 01:24:19,470 --> 01:24:21,750 Then, how do you feel about that? 1403 01:24:21,750 --> 01:24:29,170 I think that was what we intended to add, but I just want to make sure, yeah, that's what that's what I'm saying. 1404 01:24:29,170 --> 01:24:29,370 Okay, good. 1405 01:24:30,150 --> 01:24:30,690 I feel the same. 1406 01:24:30,850 --> 01:24:32,150 I didn't know if we were taking it out. 1407 01:24:32,270 --> 01:24:32,430 Yeah. 1408 01:24:34,070 --> 01:24:34,610 Okay, good. 1409 01:24:34,850 --> 01:24:36,370 As far as drilling, didn't have lines. 1410 01:24:36,430 --> 01:24:36,650 Yeah. 1411 01:24:36,930 --> 01:24:40,030 I mean, what is to be very clear that there would be agendas? 1412 01:24:40,030 --> 01:24:40,850 There would be minutes. 1413 01:24:41,170 --> 01:24:42,730 I think it was then rewritten. 1414 01:24:42,830 --> 01:24:43,790 I have it's different. 1415 01:24:44,170 --> 01:24:44,410 Two. 1416 01:24:44,610 --> 01:24:45,170 It's worded. 1417 01:24:45,310 --> 01:24:46,330 Do you want a little different word? 1418 01:24:49,460 --> 01:24:51,200 What's the part that's tripping you up? 1419 01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:53,320 I don't think anything's tripping anyone up. 1420 01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:54,920 but I just wanted to make sure that it's 1421 01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:55,740 worded the way. 1422 01:24:55,940 --> 01:24:56,720 Yes, I think it is. 1423 01:24:56,860 --> 01:24:57,140 What's it? 1424 01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:57,400 Please. 1425 01:24:58,620 --> 01:24:58,760 All right. 1426 01:24:58,900 --> 01:25:00,780 So as listed, two members of the 1427 01:25:00,780 --> 01:25:02,960 anti-biased task force, two members of the 1428 01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:05,220 police advisory committee, two members of the 1429 01:25:05,220 --> 01:25:06,980 police department, including the school resource 1430 01:25:06,980 --> 01:25:10,760 officer, one community liaison Spanish speaking, one 1431 01:25:10,760 --> 01:25:13,720 representative of the school district, a school 1432 01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:18,280 district, one village of report elected official, one 1433 01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:20,940 community business leader, one representative of 1434 01:25:20,940 --> 01:25:22,760 the houses of worship within the town of South 1435 01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:28,060 and two town board liaisons, one from Antibias Task Force and one from the police advisory committee. 1436 01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:31,380 I have a lot of people. 1437 01:25:31,580 --> 01:25:34,300 It's a lot of people, they're not going to meet that often. 1438 01:25:34,660 --> 01:25:39,120 I mean, they're going to meet in a very specific way. 1439 01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:47,040 I want to go back up to Solve Public Safety Task Force is concluded. 1440 01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:58,440 Do we need a language in there indicating that all documents produced will be archived under the new committee? 1441 01:25:58,660 --> 01:26:08,600 I just want to be sure that all the work that was done and all those documents we posted on our quick links get archived properly under the new committee. 1442 01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:38,580 I don't know if it needs to be said either, you had a good point in about one point about how it's really important that the members of these different, that this be seen as a cross committee committee, so that the individuals who are representing advice are not bringing their personal kind of place in the world, but they're bringing their committee's mission into the committee. 1443 01:26:38,580 --> 01:26:43,720 And I don't know how that wording would change, but so that if I were a member of the 1444 01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:49,700 enterprise task force, I wanted to be on this new, be the representative, that it's clear 1445 01:26:49,700 --> 01:26:53,020 that your job is to go back to the committee you're representing. 1446 01:26:53,420 --> 01:26:53,880 Without you. 1447 01:26:54,180 --> 01:26:54,780 It's almost obvious. 1448 01:26:55,120 --> 01:27:01,260 And bring that communication back and forth with the lens of, nice, that committee. 1449 01:27:02,180 --> 01:27:04,040 I mean, we can put the news on there. 1450 01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:04,340 Yeah. 1451 01:27:04,500 --> 01:27:04,620 Yeah. 1452 01:27:04,740 --> 01:27:05,980 No, it's not a losing sound. 1453 01:27:05,980 --> 01:27:12,000 but it's a rep, is this, you're representing this stakeholder group, so maybe it's just 1454 01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:12,860 the word representing. 1455 01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:14,440 Two members to represent. 1456 01:27:14,540 --> 01:27:15,340 Two represent. 1457 01:27:15,940 --> 01:27:16,340 That's good. 1458 01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:17,500 Yeah, I like that. 1459 01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:19,240 Two represent the anti-vices. 1460 01:27:19,540 --> 01:27:21,600 That's the first language needed to help clarify that. 1461 01:27:23,550 --> 01:27:26,470 We have one other resolution, they added to it on the second page. 1462 01:27:26,590 --> 01:27:28,650 And the same thing, obviously, go all the way down. 1463 01:27:29,050 --> 01:27:30,210 And through other two. 1464 01:27:30,230 --> 01:27:34,010 Do we need, and I'm always conscious of staff time. 1465 01:27:34,010 --> 01:27:36,350 We need two members from the police department. 1466 01:27:37,950 --> 01:27:43,450 Well, one would be the resource officer, and one would probably be on the higher ranking 1467 01:27:43,450 --> 01:27:43,830 officer. 1468 01:27:43,950 --> 01:27:45,430 Do we need a designated person? 1469 01:27:45,730 --> 01:27:48,570 Do we need them or do they want to be invited in? 1470 01:27:49,590 --> 01:27:52,110 I think they're crucial to this conversation, yeah, absolutely. 1471 01:27:52,910 --> 01:27:58,510 Occasionally, because chief is on several committees, he will send, if he doesn't want in his place, 1472 01:27:58,870 --> 01:27:59,830 if he can't be there. 1473 01:28:00,190 --> 01:28:01,050 This leads it up to him. 1474 01:28:01,050 --> 01:28:09,390 And yeah, that was another question whether or not it should always be the same person from the committee or as it could it be a rotating person from the committee. 1475 01:28:09,970 --> 01:28:11,190 It's going to be up to that. 1476 01:28:11,650 --> 01:28:13,050 That's going to be a yearly thing. 1477 01:28:13,310 --> 01:28:16,030 So no, I just met within a given year. 1478 01:28:16,250 --> 01:28:17,330 It would always be the same. 1479 01:28:17,590 --> 01:28:18,750 It has to be the same question. 1480 01:28:19,810 --> 01:28:20,590 Just putting that out there. 1481 01:28:20,670 --> 01:28:21,070 I don't know. 1482 01:28:21,210 --> 01:28:22,850 I'm not either of these two committees. 1483 01:28:23,270 --> 01:28:26,410 So I don't know what you think would be preference. 1484 01:28:26,690 --> 01:28:27,010 I know. 1485 01:28:27,010 --> 01:28:30,110 So, Enterprise Task Force is a large committee. 1486 01:28:30,430 --> 01:28:32,090 Well, the advisory is smaller. 1487 01:28:32,550 --> 01:28:39,510 And I think it would be also, I think to Kate's point, it also depends on what the subject 1488 01:28:39,510 --> 01:28:46,650 of the agenda of that particular meeting is because, so I could say that, you know, we 1489 01:28:46,650 --> 01:28:52,590 have different various kinds of experience on the police advisory, and one subject, one member 1490 01:28:52,590 --> 01:28:55,450 might have more experience than the other, so we'll send that one this time. 1491 01:28:55,450 --> 01:28:57,370 At the next time, it will be the other member. 1492 01:28:57,650 --> 01:29:00,090 So how, just to make that, how does that get clarified? 1493 01:29:00,310 --> 01:29:01,710 Maybe that's not in a resolution. 1494 01:29:01,950 --> 01:29:04,410 Maybe there's some other like mention of the committee later. 1495 01:29:05,930 --> 01:29:07,930 So there may be under the committee description. 1496 01:29:08,450 --> 01:29:14,410 Somewhere it needs to be clear so that the chair knows that these are the scheduled meetings. 1497 01:29:15,010 --> 01:29:15,730 Who was going to go? 1498 01:29:16,090 --> 01:29:16,990 These are the topics. 1499 01:29:17,570 --> 01:29:18,850 Who's going to represent us? 1500 01:29:19,030 --> 01:29:25,390 Well, I think then the other is the flexibility because if there is an 1501 01:29:25,390 --> 01:29:32,970 outside agency event that we then trigger the procedure, it's going to really be, and 1502 01:29:32,970 --> 01:29:37,790 now they're going to meet. It's not on the calendar, so somebody, if it's flexible, 1503 01:29:38,010 --> 01:29:41,110 maybe that person can't go at that time because they're working, like it's someone else. 1504 01:29:41,250 --> 01:29:48,990 I think, I think maybe that comes, I think that particular organization of it could rest 1505 01:29:48,990 --> 01:29:56,270 on the two liaisons from the town board, say, hey, this is the subject. This is what we want you to do. 1506 01:29:57,590 --> 01:29:59,410 Tell us your two members. 1507 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,980 Let's come up with some dates. And then within two weeks, we get those, get it all together. I think that's the easiest way, because we don't know what the subject is going to be or the incident is going to be. So that then doesn't need to be in the resolution. We just need to note it so that when we have our first organizational meeting with this code, that we can, well, what are the last resolution, say, on this? Well, let's get through this. I also want to go back briefly. What determines the quarterly designation? Instead of asking it. We thought they should at least need 1508 01:30:29,980 --> 01:30:35,960 need quarterly, to be sure we're working on ongoing, you know, attending to communication 1509 01:30:35,960 --> 01:30:42,100 and education, because some of the recommendations that came out of the task force are very 1510 01:30:42,100 --> 01:30:42,460 useful. 1511 01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:43,440 I'll do sure. 1512 01:30:43,660 --> 01:30:43,780 Yeah. 1513 01:30:43,960 --> 01:30:48,540 And they might, you know, there might be one time a year, that's better than another, you 1514 01:30:48,540 --> 01:30:52,480 know, semi of the synergy, like the synergy meetings, but give that, give it a little more. 1515 01:30:53,060 --> 01:30:57,280 I'm just wondering if in the beginning, those meetings were just by nature going to be more 1516 01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:57,680 frequent. 1517 01:30:57,680 --> 01:31:00,640 but it's three years before we need to meet quarterly. 1518 01:31:01,160 --> 01:31:03,340 Well, we can get rid of this gets redone every year. 1519 01:31:03,500 --> 01:31:05,560 Okay, yeah, I just want to make sure that I do. 1520 01:31:06,440 --> 01:31:07,820 Yeah, that's why we did publicly. 1521 01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:09,960 Because that's why we did a resolution law. 1522 01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:11,960 Yep, so that we could be responsive 1523 01:31:11,960 --> 01:31:13,120 to what's happening in the room. 1524 01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:14,020 And there might not, 1525 01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:16,840 nothing, there might be not be any incidents 1526 01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:18,080 between the quarterly meetings, 1527 01:31:18,080 --> 01:31:20,280 but to answer point, we can still say, 1528 01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,060 okay, how's our outreach, how's our education? 1529 01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:24,540 Do we have a new group of people in town 1530 01:31:24,540 --> 01:31:25,880 that don't know what we're doing? 1531 01:31:25,880 --> 01:31:30,040 some topic might be coming up at police advisory about how the new police 1532 01:31:30,040 --> 01:31:33,620 yeah schedules going like we're just going to report out on that or we're 1533 01:31:33,620 --> 01:31:37,700 going to talk about the trainings for our staff are getting things that are 1534 01:31:37,700 --> 01:31:44,100 coming up and biased that might be important to really thank you so I'm going 1535 01:31:44,100 --> 01:31:49,400 to move on to the next one I have a question I do too go ahead no you go I know 1536 01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:50,640 of these don't want to issue someone. 1537 01:31:52,420 --> 01:31:55,940 By community liaison here, do you mean one in the same 1538 01:31:56,320 --> 01:31:59,620 the community maybe to be known as community engagement? 1539 01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:01,160 Is that the same person? 1540 01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:04,300 Or is it just, is it or is that a generic community liaison? 1541 01:32:04,860 --> 01:32:06,440 I mean, that is the person is whoever, 1542 01:32:06,820 --> 01:32:08,520 that position is currently not filled. 1543 01:32:08,700 --> 01:32:09,840 Okay, that's a current title. 1544 01:32:10,100 --> 01:32:10,840 This one to make sure. 1545 01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:12,140 Yeah, that wasn't clear. 1546 01:32:12,420 --> 01:32:13,320 That's a town employee. 1547 01:32:13,480 --> 01:32:16,640 Yeah, so do you maybe need to note that? 1548 01:32:16,880 --> 01:32:17,140 Yeah. 1549 01:32:17,140 --> 01:32:17,620 staff. 1550 01:32:23,180 --> 01:32:29,800 We didn't put the government liaison as part of this. My thought was that the community 1551 01:32:29,800 --> 01:32:34,480 means on Spanish speaking with the, you know, you know, we're like, you know, I'm sitting 1552 01:32:34,480 --> 01:32:38,920 at home, so one of the patients must commit, yeah, as opposed to on another person. 1553 01:32:39,660 --> 01:32:45,200 Representative school district. And they could send to what the superintendent's the center they 1554 01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:52,260 like, you know, one, we struck the, the, said, okay, so we don't know what is the school 1555 01:32:52,260 --> 01:32:53,040 district, which one? 1556 01:32:53,260 --> 01:32:53,440 Okay. 1557 01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:54,360 It's happened. 1558 01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:55,680 Representative on. 1559 01:32:56,100 --> 01:32:57,520 Remort, elected official. 1560 01:32:57,880 --> 01:32:58,340 Full districts. 1561 01:32:59,060 --> 01:33:04,380 And other, they're responsible, the school districts, they're just having to ask themselves 1562 01:33:04,380 --> 01:33:05,000 something. 1563 01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:09,460 Well, they, they meet regularly, and you may as a decent officer, keep the, and add an 1564 01:33:09,460 --> 01:33:09,600 ass. 1565 01:33:09,740 --> 01:33:10,740 They have systems for it. 1566 01:33:19,820 --> 01:33:28,320 We don't have to be the same person and the same with the next two, we'll just do some 1567 01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:30,480 outreach and say who would be interested in serving. 1568 01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:31,280 Yeah. 1569 01:33:31,620 --> 01:33:31,760 Okay. 1570 01:33:33,900 --> 01:33:35,140 Well, that's great. 1571 01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:38,020 Okay. 1572 01:33:40,040 --> 01:33:40,520 All right. 1573 01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:42,360 is to be clear on all these positions back here. 1574 01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:45,060 You know, originally in a meeting brought up, 1575 01:33:45,240 --> 01:33:50,300 the idea of having someone from food security team on here, 1576 01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:53,740 is that, are we okay with, I mean, I'm not saying 1577 01:33:53,740 --> 01:33:55,060 getting a bigger, I'm just saying like that. 1578 01:33:55,340 --> 01:33:57,960 That's a federal thing with the food safety act? 1579 01:33:58,320 --> 01:33:59,700 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, 1580 01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:01,560 this is just a sort of a group we call people 1581 01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:03,120 when people were using staff at night. 1582 01:34:03,340 --> 01:34:05,640 I think back at the top of the phone, 1583 01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:07,560 if they're meeting that they can bring you out. 1584 01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:09,300 Your former lenses, this is the stuff. 1585 01:34:09,300 --> 01:34:14,220 Oh, it's, it's thinking of a regulation because you have your communities on 1586 01:34:14,220 --> 01:34:17,960 Spanish speaking and that person would overlap those two. And so how would we, 1587 01:34:18,080 --> 01:34:22,220 how would we identify who, if that's a, has a worship with that be? 1588 01:34:22,420 --> 01:34:26,120 We would reach out to that council and say, so there's a lot more on the deal. 1589 01:34:26,260 --> 01:34:29,280 Okay, great, great. This is what we're doing. Right. Do you have someone? 1590 01:34:29,500 --> 01:34:34,460 Okay. But that you did just make me one from about 1591 01:34:37,020 --> 01:34:40,700 someone from cast on the task force? 1592 01:34:40,700 --> 01:34:56,520 No. No. Okay. I think I think they could include it as needed. I don't think that's important. I think this group can say, hey, the topic today is is we need security is and then they can invite them. But I think it's big enough. Yeah. And it's related. Otherwise, I think so. Otherwise. 1593 01:34:57,180 --> 01:35:02,860 And it's triggered by that the whole report from the task force, which really was focused on 1594 01:35:02,860 --> 01:35:07,500 after an event and communication. So the other things are also kind of happened, but they're not 1595 01:35:07,500 --> 01:35:12,720 the main. Yeah, do it. Do we have the next one? Thank you. 1596 01:35:15,160 --> 01:35:21,020 For the results, Public Safety Committee, acting as the direction of the town board, is charged with 1597 01:35:21,020 --> 01:35:23,900 communication, education, and coordination duties, 1598 01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:26,540 regarding the public safety response procedures, 1599 01:35:27,060 --> 01:35:28,840 including working with the police department 1600 01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:32,160 to develop educational materials explaining those procedures. 1601 01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:34,940 What residents can expect from the department 1602 01:35:34,940 --> 01:35:36,760 during outside agency operations, 1603 01:35:37,340 --> 01:35:40,340 and how to report incidents through 911 1604 01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:41,740 or police headquarters. 1605 01:35:42,300 --> 01:35:44,580 The public safety committee shall also coordinate 1606 01:35:44,580 --> 01:35:46,000 with the communications committee 1607 01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:49,420 to disseminate those materials across a range of channels 1608 01:35:49,420 --> 01:36:02,280 With attention to language accessibility, including communicating the non-sensitive details of the police commissioner's periodic reviews of the public safety response, and be a further resolved with this decision, shall take it back to me. 1609 01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:05,700 Maybe a public safety response, response procedures. 1610 01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:09,200 Because that's what we're going to be. 1611 01:36:09,540 --> 01:36:11,080 Yeah, I think that's missing a word there. 1612 01:36:14,360 --> 01:36:16,860 I don't know if we need more incidents. 1613 01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:21,720 I would be uncertain, but I would say have two make reports. 1614 01:36:22,620 --> 01:36:27,580 In other words, it's not just about, I think there's an outside agency in my neighborhood. 1615 01:36:28,220 --> 01:36:28,980 What do I do? 1616 01:36:30,220 --> 01:36:35,620 It's also making sure that community understands what's 9-1-1, what's call headquarters. 1617 01:36:36,520 --> 01:36:37,080 Oh, yeah. 1618 01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:46,580 You know generalizing. Yeah, I think it because it could be any public safety issue. Yeah, yeah, and I'm concerned with the words coordination of duties because 1619 01:36:47,560 --> 01:36:50,780 What does that mean? We know what there's no loss. There's no 1620 01:36:50,780 --> 01:37:03,820 Is it we how about just communications education and 1621 01:37:03,820 --> 01:37:10,020 coordination and take it out. Yeah, let's take it out. It's also a more safe and educational 1622 01:37:11,340 --> 01:37:16,600 education stand. I think one of the agencies says it later on. That's smart. Yeah, take it off. 1623 01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:20,960 Because, you know, it's kind of, it's kind of tells, it kind of says, oh, they're going to 1624 01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:26,080 coordinate the duties of the police. Yeah, that's how I do it. That's how I do it. Yeah, 1625 01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:31,140 right. It's confusing. I think, I think sometimes when you're reading it, you're thinking about 1626 01:37:31,140 --> 01:37:37,060 the procedure and coordination of duties and sometimes we're thinking public safety big umbrella. 1627 01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:40,420 So I think taking it out is better. You've got to read it as if somebody from the public 1628 01:37:40,420 --> 01:37:44,560 so I know the street we did it. So that's so that's why I thought we're going to tell the police 1629 01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:48,800 what to do. That's now it hits me. It could sound like that. Yeah. That's why that word is it's 1630 01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:53,520 constantly too. Right. What does that mean? So how do we how do we edit that? How do we get 1631 01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:58,080 boardings? No, that one definitely. But how do we get rid of it? How do we make a report? 1632 01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:02,120 Just take out and it's out of report for, oh no, please headquarter, please headquarter. 1633 01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:08,240 Yeah, because we want to make sure that people, I think, danceport call on anything they 1634 01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:09,000 think they should call. 1635 01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:14,820 Yeah, we don't want the other things that came up out of the task force was a concern that 1636 01:38:14,820 --> 01:38:20,320 there might be people in the community who are not calling 911 out of some other fears. 1637 01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:26,240 So that, that was kind of the message behind that, like, we're going to, we, self-okers are 1638 01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:27,240 Okay, it called when you didn't. 1639 01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:29,040 So does that stand together? 1640 01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:31,960 How to report through 911 or how to report through 1641 01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:34,120 police had quite a clear set makes sense to someone? 1642 01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:38,120 All right. 1643 01:38:38,660 --> 01:38:39,900 So this 1644 01:38:43,060 --> 01:38:43,860 could go on tonight. 1645 01:38:44,560 --> 01:38:45,500 If people's great. 1646 01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:46,260 Or not. 1647 01:38:46,740 --> 01:38:50,900 So here or now, so just not resolution necessarily based, 1648 01:38:51,280 --> 01:39:01,480 but my other question was about who is the chair? 1649 01:39:02,260 --> 01:39:08,680 Yeah, and how agenda set minutes tap. So we're we're 1650 01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:12,560 noticed finding a room. So we're going with that. 1651 01:39:12,820 --> 01:39:17,260 Scheduling a room should not be the hard part to committee. 1652 01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:22,540 As far as where the chair is, I think they should be, 1653 01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:26,040 I think that the tab or liaison should be co-chairs. 1654 01:39:26,340 --> 01:39:29,500 I think I know that's unusual. We're usually liaison, 1655 01:39:29,500 --> 01:39:40,440 But I think because this is part of a receivable communication chain something happens it should be and we're giving them the specific direction from the town board 1656 01:39:40,440 --> 01:39:43,980 So I think the chairs need to make sure those specific directions 1657 01:39:43,980 --> 01:39:47,480 It doesn't become a bigger and doesn't become 1658 01:39:49,440 --> 01:39:56,700 They can still be not voting. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I'm not even sure what we they be voting on but 1659 01:39:56,700 --> 01:39:59,000 but it could be both recommendations. 1660 01:39:59,560 --> 01:39:59,900 It's all right. 1661 01:40:00,380 --> 01:40:02,720 For as minutes ago, and we're going through this, 1662 01:40:03,080 --> 01:40:05,200 and Dennis has been a big help. 1663 01:40:05,380 --> 01:40:06,100 We're going through this one, 1664 01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:07,580 and the budget season, again, 1665 01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:11,080 I lighted the reality that every department 1666 01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:12,020 has minutes differently, 1667 01:40:12,440 --> 01:40:14,840 and that we're trying to coordinate that as part of, 1668 01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:17,720 of course, of course saving measure, 1669 01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:19,800 but also an efficiency measure 1670 01:40:19,800 --> 01:40:22,840 how we have to legally do this with minutes, 1671 01:40:23,060 --> 01:40:24,160 and it includes the committees. 1672 01:40:25,060 --> 01:40:35,500 And so we will sort out in another month how minutes have to be done legally and reported 1673 01:40:35,500 --> 01:40:39,240 and stored by the committees in a most efficient manner. 1674 01:40:39,500 --> 01:40:42,880 Are we talking about committees or also like other boards? 1675 01:40:43,060 --> 01:40:43,980 Oh, all the other boards. 1676 01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:46,960 That's what brought this up because there is a high cost involved. 1677 01:40:47,100 --> 01:40:48,580 They're very different. 1678 01:40:48,580 --> 01:40:51,580 But the committee is legal ramifications with those two consequences. 1679 01:40:51,580 --> 01:40:55,500 And working with Ben, we are in the middle of that, 1680 01:40:55,700 --> 01:40:57,480 and working with Dennis, we're in the middle of that. 1681 01:40:57,620 --> 01:40:59,340 Because, you know, this planning board, 1682 01:40:59,440 --> 01:41:03,520 CBA, trustees, they should be consistent 1683 01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:05,860 when it's taking a story operation. 1684 01:41:06,400 --> 01:41:07,720 But even for volunteer committees, 1685 01:41:08,180 --> 01:41:09,620 like I have many volunteer committees 1686 01:41:09,620 --> 01:41:12,020 that you not have secretaries at the moment. 1687 01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:13,540 And so we end up dumb. 1688 01:41:14,100 --> 01:41:17,960 No, because that's, and that's part of the budget cycle 1689 01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:19,500 is how much, how much, 1690 01:41:19,500 --> 01:41:23,340 How many minutes do we need to, there's volunteers who need to generate it? 1691 01:41:23,360 --> 01:41:23,460 Right. 1692 01:41:24,240 --> 01:41:25,920 So I think some guidance on that would be very well. 1693 01:41:25,920 --> 01:41:29,980 That would be a nice revisit to the handbook because we kept that very old thing because 1694 01:41:29,980 --> 01:41:33,300 everyone had their own way and we wanted to help people how to do it. 1695 01:41:33,420 --> 01:41:35,160 And that's what the problem is. 1696 01:41:35,380 --> 01:41:39,800 And it's one of the many, especially the volunteer chairs who are putting in time beyond their 1697 01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:41,360 own lives to get these six stones. 1698 01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:41,780 Yeah. 1699 01:41:45,070 --> 01:41:47,390 Orphically we can resolve that, but- 1700 01:41:47,390 --> 01:41:50,310 So we're agreeing that this is the language that's going to go as the right things for. 1701 01:41:50,590 --> 01:41:55,010 And we're agreeing that should it be in that resolution that a town forward liaison 1702 01:41:55,010 --> 01:41:56,250 is doing so chairs. 1703 01:41:56,570 --> 01:41:56,930 So, yes. 1704 01:41:57,170 --> 01:42:02,930 Should the last part of that section just say from the police advisory committee shall serve 1705 01:42:02,930 --> 01:42:04,310 as co-chair or something else? 1706 01:42:04,430 --> 01:42:04,530 Yeah. 1707 01:42:04,530 --> 01:42:05,190 I like that. 1708 01:42:06,610 --> 01:42:12,870 So we didn't answer the question about agenda minutes and noticing, because that's up 1709 01:42:12,870 --> 01:42:13,330 to the center. 1710 01:42:13,330 --> 01:42:14,650 That's have to be in the resolution. 1711 01:42:14,650 --> 01:42:16,390 I know, but the notice thing is in there. 1712 01:42:16,690 --> 01:42:17,210 All the meetings. 1713 01:42:17,470 --> 01:42:17,630 Right. 1714 01:42:17,850 --> 01:42:21,970 We're seeing we have this has to internally let's not lose how that gets done. 1715 01:42:22,230 --> 01:42:22,950 It was doing it. 1716 01:42:24,050 --> 01:42:24,310 Right. 1717 01:42:24,550 --> 01:42:28,710 I'm just saying that in the resolution, we're saying we're going to conform to open being 1718 01:42:28,710 --> 01:42:34,190 clause so that that is holding this to the higher standard of making everything public. 1719 01:42:34,710 --> 01:42:35,510 It's a recording. 1720 01:42:35,790 --> 01:42:38,650 I guess that when Tim Wardley is on school, use their secretary. 1721 01:42:39,110 --> 01:42:39,230 So. 1722 01:42:48,350 --> 01:42:51,530 Well, you know what? We'll figure that out later, really. 1723 01:42:51,530 --> 01:42:56,130 We're going to get a free play because you're standardized for committees. 1724 01:42:57,350 --> 01:43:01,690 We do now. Yeah. Okay, so maybe right now we could see if that I would fit it. Yeah, 1725 01:43:01,970 --> 01:43:06,010 because PAC doesn't meet monthly anymore because we don't have that much stuff. 1726 01:43:06,010 --> 01:43:10,170 at least look at that exists for a command that's called decision-added. 1727 01:43:10,330 --> 01:43:12,790 You don't have to hold hands now. 1728 01:43:13,170 --> 01:43:14,950 I'm sure she's not very good at targeting. 1729 01:43:15,210 --> 01:43:16,670 Oh, well, that's a point. 1730 01:43:16,990 --> 01:43:19,590 Some of these have grown into their own sort of thing. 1731 01:43:19,930 --> 01:43:21,670 And so I'm going to say to her, 1732 01:43:21,850 --> 01:43:24,610 I'm sure that everyone's doing it the same way. 1733 01:43:24,830 --> 01:43:26,410 And these are noticed properly, 1734 01:43:27,010 --> 01:43:29,210 and we can use carry-ins. 1735 01:43:29,430 --> 01:43:30,030 Yeah, she's good. 1736 01:43:30,290 --> 01:43:32,050 Because she signed up to do this monthly, 1737 01:43:32,210 --> 01:43:33,110 and we're not doing monthly. 1738 01:43:33,110 --> 01:43:36,430 Well, then it's not mentioned any staff. 1739 01:43:36,990 --> 01:43:38,450 Let's not dedicate staff to this yet. 1740 01:43:38,710 --> 01:43:42,030 And I would like to dedicate staff to get it started. 1741 01:43:42,250 --> 01:43:45,190 So we properly are known to be on the pack 1742 01:43:45,190 --> 01:43:46,510 and doing secretary. 1743 01:43:46,810 --> 01:43:48,630 The pack is going to handle the notice in the middle. 1744 01:43:48,690 --> 01:43:50,710 No thing you should say to anyone at this year. 1745 01:43:51,330 --> 01:43:53,210 Well, let's do the part of the process. 1746 01:43:53,670 --> 01:43:55,970 Well, I say sorry, but to that end, 1747 01:43:56,010 --> 01:43:58,950 what would be the resolution goes on tonight, 1748 01:43:59,270 --> 01:44:01,550 then it sounds like there needs to be an organizational meeting 1749 01:44:01,550 --> 01:44:03,290 to kind of work through some of these details. 1750 01:44:03,610 --> 01:44:05,150 Well, now you have to advertise for members. 1751 01:44:06,530 --> 01:44:08,050 So, is it advertising? 1752 01:44:08,370 --> 01:44:10,890 Because right now we have very specific roles. 1753 01:44:11,150 --> 01:44:13,130 So, each of these communities will send two people. 1754 01:44:14,210 --> 01:44:15,490 Then is that reached to the other? 1755 01:44:15,490 --> 01:44:17,530 All right, so since where there's a school member, 1756 01:44:17,710 --> 01:44:19,130 like, it's not like a book. 1757 01:44:19,450 --> 01:44:23,030 When do you want our first quarterly meeting before the end of the year? 1758 01:44:23,250 --> 01:44:25,450 Or do we, I think that this is that organizational meeting? 1759 01:44:25,890 --> 01:44:26,530 I think we should have. 1760 01:44:26,530 --> 01:44:28,530 Because we've done a lot of work on this now 1761 01:44:28,530 --> 01:44:32,730 I think that it's out in the public already and it's kind of, well, if we had it report, 1762 01:44:33,010 --> 01:44:37,430 I think it reported next week. Right. I think this committee should exist. Yeah. I agree. 1763 01:44:37,650 --> 01:44:42,130 And we could just get it up on the website with the description. We could move the documents over. 1764 01:44:42,430 --> 01:44:47,750 Just like the framework in place. Yeah. The best thing to do, Al, might be for us to write a letter 1765 01:44:48,290 --> 01:44:53,590 that would go to all of these groups. We're asking to send someone explaining what we're asking for. 1766 01:44:53,590 --> 01:44:54,030 Yeah. 1767 01:44:54,110 --> 01:44:58,490 When we come to the Schedule of Organizational Meeting, so they know what we're up for. 1768 01:44:58,490 --> 01:44:59,970 Because we have a schedule that will be like- 1769 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:05,700 Well, I think it's been having officially talked to Antibias or Packard. And that's what my recent 1770 01:45:05,700 --> 01:45:27,700 antivirus committee meeting, they've asked for that communication from the board. They knew that we're forming a committee. They're like, well, what are they going to ask us so? They just do your point all out. They're clearing clearly, but that's not what this is. I know, but I'm just saying that functions are even asked. Resolution here, what's our purpose at your next meeting will be helpful. I think we're ready to decide who's going to do these things. 1771 01:45:27,700 --> 01:45:34,520 But the average has to be done to fix the business community and you say the IDC is going 1772 01:45:34,520 --> 01:45:35,360 to be charged with that? 1773 01:45:35,740 --> 01:45:36,180 Yeah. 1774 01:45:36,340 --> 01:45:37,300 That's one of the good ideas. 1775 01:45:37,940 --> 01:45:39,120 And then I have some questions. 1776 01:45:39,480 --> 01:45:41,580 Just to clarify, not necessarily, you need to see member. 1777 01:45:41,900 --> 01:45:42,040 No. 1778 01:45:42,480 --> 01:45:43,100 Oh gosh, no. 1779 01:45:43,200 --> 01:45:43,940 EDC will help. 1780 01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:44,500 Oh, absolutely. 1781 01:45:44,500 --> 01:45:46,120 I have to identify someone. 1782 01:45:46,580 --> 01:45:46,920 Absolutely. 1783 01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:53,160 If you're representing as a stakeholder group, you have to have a way to interact with them. 1784 01:45:53,160 --> 01:46:02,000 Okay, so would we want to hear back by people by ex, you know, by, you know, November one or October 30th? 1785 01:46:02,020 --> 01:46:03,260 Or will we get only one candidate left? 1786 01:46:03,260 --> 01:46:07,160 No, in our resolution, October 50th. 1787 01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:09,860 Community business leaders through the EDC. 1788 01:46:10,220 --> 01:46:10,300 Yeah. 1789 01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:13,220 In the room, the EDC. 1790 01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:14,280 So how would you put that over? 1791 01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:20,660 So we'd get these requests out by letter, by, by word of mouth, 1792 01:46:20,660 --> 01:46:23,880 with an over-response by October 15th. 1793 01:46:24,020 --> 01:46:25,880 And then we circled back to those panel 1794 01:46:25,880 --> 01:46:26,780 with an organization. 1795 01:46:27,700 --> 01:46:30,100 You would have to tell us what works for the two of you. 1796 01:46:30,600 --> 01:46:32,240 That would be when you sit. 1797 01:46:32,700 --> 01:46:34,560 You're maybe instead of the next pack meeting, 1798 01:46:34,680 --> 01:46:35,780 this is like something. 1799 01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:36,500 Right. 1800 01:46:36,820 --> 01:46:38,260 Something that you already have on your calendar, 1801 01:46:38,420 --> 01:46:40,280 might be good to follow. 1802 01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:44,780 And I guess the thing to clarify is we talked about there being 1803 01:46:44,780 --> 01:46:46,220 a little bit of a fluid membership 1804 01:46:46,650 --> 01:46:48,840 that it doesn't have to be the same person at every meeting. 1805 01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:53,500 So it's basically just raising it to these committees attention that we would like you to start 1806 01:46:53,500 --> 01:46:56,660 desiccating people to come at these quarterly meetings, right? 1807 01:46:56,700 --> 01:46:58,180 That's going to be an exiling privilege. 1808 01:46:58,440 --> 01:47:02,820 They don't want to send someone and then maybe another member is going to say, I'd like to 1809 01:47:02,820 --> 01:47:03,520 go to the next one. 1810 01:47:03,760 --> 01:47:03,860 Right. 1811 01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:04,800 So they were all with that. 1812 01:47:04,960 --> 01:47:05,200 Absolutely. 1813 01:47:05,740 --> 01:47:06,020 I agree. 1814 01:47:06,840 --> 01:47:08,280 Just a clarification on the membership. 1815 01:47:08,660 --> 01:47:14,300 I thought Alexa, we had, you had mentioned her tip, perhaps, people from the communication committee. 1816 01:47:14,480 --> 01:47:16,780 I know we discussed what something has to go out. 1817 01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:17,580 It would be given. 1818 01:47:17,580 --> 01:47:21,540 I just want to make sure that we're not missing anybody that you have thought. 1819 01:47:21,780 --> 01:47:25,200 No, I think that the, that's really the communication. 1820 01:47:27,500 --> 01:47:30,960 And it's called out in the resolution. 1821 01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:31,560 Thank you. 1822 01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:33,840 Thank you. 1823 01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:41,560 I mean, we might have to make creeps as we start using this, but I think it's a really good framework to start out of it if everybody's comfortable. 1824 01:47:42,460 --> 01:47:53,180 But with a rise in being a potential organizational meeting within 2026, like early we get, you know, people by the 15th of October, and then maybe early November. 1825 01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:55,020 Right, and I will work on that. 1826 01:47:56,640 --> 01:48:05,120 Why don't you sit on that for November for a first week organizational meeting date, but I would do it regardless of whether you have a full complement. 1827 01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:06,600 Okay, I agree. 1828 01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:09,220 Okay, don't get hung up on. 1829 01:48:09,340 --> 01:48:09,520 Yeah. 1830 01:48:10,420 --> 01:48:17,280 But I like Anne's idea about giving these letters declaring what the intent is and asking. 1831 01:48:17,560 --> 01:48:21,020 Because I think that's just clarifying what is needed for the committee work. 1832 01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:22,720 And we're going to write that there. 1833 01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:26,560 Normally these calls for the committee members. 1834 01:48:26,720 --> 01:48:27,980 Do they go out to the clerk's office? 1835 01:48:29,480 --> 01:48:31,440 I think the announcement does. 1836 01:48:32,980 --> 01:48:39,920 But just for my part, people on my, or not, it's I leave, not to the antibias, they have asked me, 1837 01:48:40,040 --> 01:48:43,860 what's the matter with the down board? How can we haven't got the letter that says, this is what we need? 1838 01:48:44,760 --> 01:48:51,800 So, I don't know. I know, and that's what, that's what the answer was, but they just want to be prepared and 1839 01:48:51,800 --> 01:48:55,680 want it to be clear what's being asked of them in the essential. And they get to it a lot of things. 1840 01:48:55,680 --> 01:48:58,160 And it's certainly the same thing. 1841 01:48:58,440 --> 01:49:01,080 I said, when we hear it now, and we have it all done, 1842 01:49:01,220 --> 01:49:03,140 we're going to be clarifying the work as well. 1843 01:49:03,480 --> 01:49:06,040 But just to your point about, this is what we need. 1844 01:49:06,220 --> 01:49:06,960 Think about it. 1845 01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:08,960 A couple of people's time, including the staff 1846 01:49:08,960 --> 01:49:10,440 that we're asking to be part of this. 1847 01:49:10,840 --> 01:49:11,760 Well, that's it. 1848 01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:12,560 We have to. 1849 01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:13,280 Yeah. 1850 01:49:14,180 --> 01:49:15,560 So what was going to send it out? 1851 01:49:16,440 --> 01:49:16,980 And we read it. 1852 01:49:17,280 --> 01:49:20,440 Well, we can write it just to let us know where to send it. 1853 01:49:20,860 --> 01:49:21,100 OK. 1854 01:49:21,420 --> 01:49:23,180 I think it would come from the supervisors office. 1855 01:49:23,180 --> 01:49:26,240 at the state, at this meeting, this was done, here in the picture. 1856 01:49:26,480 --> 01:49:30,520 I mean, I would go over to the supervisor and that, and listing, you know, that maybe 1857 01:49:30,520 --> 01:49:32,340 would also be, or maybe it's from the two liaisons. 1858 01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:32,920 Yeah. 1859 01:49:35,340 --> 01:49:37,600 Where is this advertised for committees? 1860 01:49:37,960 --> 01:49:40,120 But we're not advertising for public members. 1861 01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:45,380 Yeah, we're, where you are, there's a couple, there were business leaders in the house. 1862 01:49:45,540 --> 01:49:46,380 We don't have to advertise. 1863 01:49:46,600 --> 01:49:51,300 House of worship, I think, should come through, there isn't a accounting medical council. 1864 01:49:51,700 --> 01:49:51,860 Yeah. 1865 01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:53,420 We can send individual letters. 1866 01:49:53,620 --> 01:49:54,000 I don't know. 1867 01:49:54,000 --> 01:50:00,980 It has to be a group that a member who has a group to go back to yeah, so that's why 1868 01:50:00,980 --> 01:50:03,960 it's advertising as we do for a regular 1869 01:50:04,900 --> 01:50:10,500 committees. I know there's a group and we can ask. That's why we talked about not. 1870 01:50:10,560 --> 01:50:13,200 I don't want you to committee but calling it a 1871 01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:18,080 what do we say we're going to call it? It is for the committee but now that we've 1872 01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:20,360 added out you know we've made it more of a committee but 1873 01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:25,760 Well, do you feel like there should be something in here, which is just an open? 1874 01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:27,720 Well, there is. The business later. 1875 01:50:28,160 --> 01:50:31,180 Okay. We cannot have the church. 1876 01:50:31,820 --> 01:50:35,000 I like the EDC. I think it's a normal thing for the EDC to do. 1877 01:50:35,060 --> 01:50:38,480 I'll reach on that, but not associated with the EDC. 1878 01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:40,540 Right. Just the business community. 1879 01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:43,420 It could happen to people, but I understand what you're saying. 1880 01:50:43,660 --> 01:50:45,500 Why not put out an open request? 1881 01:50:45,780 --> 01:50:49,820 Just like we usually do for committees for an individual with this background, 1882 01:50:49,820 --> 01:50:53,740 specifically, right? So communications, you had to have this experience in order to 1883 01:50:55,180 --> 01:50:58,140 like, what do we do that for these two or three positions? 1884 01:51:00,480 --> 01:51:02,400 No, say why not? We didn't do that. 1885 01:51:02,520 --> 01:51:04,000 Because I don't know. What are the schools going to say? 1886 01:51:04,180 --> 01:51:05,100 Because we didn't do that through the past. 1887 01:51:05,100 --> 01:51:05,940 But not all of a sudden. 1888 01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:09,060 We saw representation of different groups. 1889 01:51:09,220 --> 01:51:14,980 I feel like this is is similar to the task force because we want very specific 1890 01:51:14,980 --> 01:51:22,280 I'm going to keep going back to your job on the committee is that you represent a group in the community. 1891 01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:26,120 So it has to be somebody who has access to that group. 1892 01:51:26,700 --> 01:51:31,240 So I might be a clergy person, but I don't meet with other clergy. 1893 01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:39,120 So because the idea of a clergy person is, what are you hearing from your congregants about how people are doing? 1894 01:51:39,780 --> 01:51:40,660 What do they need? 1895 01:51:40,660 --> 01:51:47,140 If that anecdotal, I don't want to call the police, I don't know who to call, but I've got 10 people who are worried about ex-wise 1896 01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:51,160 The road was closed and cars were coming fast. Whatever it was 1897 01:51:52,540 --> 01:51:55,220 That that was the whole point of this is to coordinate 1898 01:51:56,180 --> 01:52:00,600 Communication and follow procedures. I think you have to put out a call for 1899 01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:01,980 Seeing volunteers 1900 01:52:02,980 --> 01:52:08,780 So if you're gonna get people who care about the community volunteer at this, you're not gonna get indifferent people 1901 01:52:08,780 --> 01:52:15,480 No, you're not. That's so I think this comfort you take comfort in the fact that people will apply for this actually want to help their computer. 1902 01:52:16,340 --> 01:52:23,600 So then how are we are we going to put out all these roles and say if you fit under any of these categories you can apply? 1903 01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:30,140 Well, there's really only, there's like, there's two, there's two, there's three, three, the business, the school and the church. 1904 01:52:30,720 --> 01:52:32,240 Who would have advertised to the school? 1905 01:52:32,460 --> 01:52:33,720 But I don't, we wouldn't advertise. 1906 01:52:34,120 --> 01:52:35,040 I don't think there's three. 1907 01:52:35,520 --> 01:52:38,520 Okay, so that was just a business community and the church. 1908 01:52:38,960 --> 01:52:42,880 And the super dentist could decide it's a staff member, but it'll be a person who this job is. 1909 01:52:43,180 --> 01:52:44,120 Yeah, that would be all right. 1910 01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:46,180 I agree. So, so really there's two. 1911 01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:50,080 There's the business leader and there's, so how we just really have to look, 1912 01:52:50,080 --> 01:52:54,880 So, we just have to be religious councils, so we don't have to advertise. 1913 01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:56,560 We just have to be religious councils. 1914 01:52:57,120 --> 01:53:01,760 And Alexa will reach out to the business community through EDC and the chambers. 1915 01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:03,880 And that's all we need to do. 1916 01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:06,980 And we already have on a list of everything. 1917 01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:10,280 So why do we need to spend money and advertise? 1918 01:53:10,560 --> 01:53:11,500 Because it was a lot of things. 1919 01:53:12,060 --> 01:53:19,120 I'm just trying to differentiate why we would or would not do that considering we do it for every other. 1920 01:53:19,700 --> 01:53:26,400 This is not this. This is not like every other. Yeah, I mean, that's why. So the one, I mean, I sort of see the house that weren't 1921 01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:32,420 almost falling in the same category as the school and maybe there's just one, which is the community business leader, like we did for the 1922 01:53:32,420 --> 01:53:38,940 communications committee and we put out for a community and having a seat, which is open to the community and having specific 1923 01:53:39,760 --> 01:53:46,800 qualities about being a business leader. We're going to open a business story. We're going to have other ask rabbi 1924 01:53:47,220 --> 01:53:52,340 while the Cheryl is coming in tonight, what she thinks tonight, the best way to reach out. 1925 01:53:52,860 --> 01:53:53,060 Okay. 1926 01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:56,020 She's involved with the group. 1927 01:53:56,700 --> 01:53:57,080 She's not. 1928 01:53:57,500 --> 01:53:58,260 Yeah, we'll keep going. 1929 01:53:58,520 --> 01:53:59,360 She might know who it is. 1930 01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:00,520 She might know who it is, exactly. 1931 01:54:02,780 --> 01:54:03,460 It's called that. 1932 01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:04,400 Yeah, it's called that. 1933 01:54:04,540 --> 01:54:06,640 This is the whole town, but it's called the river documentary. 1934 01:54:08,160 --> 01:54:09,680 That's, I thought there was one. 1935 01:54:10,100 --> 01:54:10,540 Share person. 1936 01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:19,200 So maybe there are just an LM is what I'm saying, they have the answer already now, so we don't have to add that. 1937 01:54:21,160 --> 01:54:23,960 So to clarify, no, this discussion will change the resolution. 1938 01:54:24,120 --> 01:54:25,820 No, it can still be put on for tonight. 1939 01:54:26,120 --> 01:54:27,060 Oh, absolutely. 1940 01:54:27,480 --> 01:54:29,400 Oh, no, it's just a, oh, absolutely. 1941 01:54:29,700 --> 01:54:30,260 Let's get started. 1942 01:54:30,420 --> 01:54:36,000 Then maybe if we feel strongly that there should be something advertised, it would be for the January. 1943 01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:42,860 And I think just for the business community, someone who's willing to volunteer for their 1944 01:54:42,860 --> 01:54:45,180 time is going to get someone who cares. 1945 01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:49,200 And if they don't think they get there for a meeting or two, they don't think it's 1946 01:54:49,200 --> 01:54:51,320 for them, they'll let us again. 1947 01:54:53,300 --> 01:54:54,520 Like a real committee. 1948 01:54:56,500 --> 01:55:00,740 All right, so we will take a break for lunch, unless anyone has any intent items. 1949 01:55:02,180 --> 01:55:05,840 I do have one, but I'll do it in exact just the way 1950 01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:08,100 the resolution has written. Do we have any questions? 1951 01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:09,960 All things meaningful to that, I would say. 1952 01:55:11,740 --> 01:55:15,220 I do want to notice, and if I can notice it again tonight, 1953 01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:19,500 that September is Guy's dog's service month, 1954 01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:23,560 and there's a lot of people in our community that raise the puppies 1955 01:55:23,560 --> 01:55:28,200 and train them, and we're very fortunate in this town to have 1956 01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:31,220 a local Lions Club that raises a lot of money with the 1957 01:55:31,220 --> 01:55:34,640 strawberry vessel to help to blind, but a lot of their fun 1958 01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:43,800 goes to the K-9 and because it's expensive to train the guide dogs and everything and so I just 1959 01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:51,460 wanted to bring awareness to that and one of the local community members, Ruthie and Corazini, 1960 01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:59,820 she does the guide dogs and she she wanted to just kind of raise awareness of it so 1961 01:55:59,820 --> 01:56:05,020 So it was a little, I wanted to do something a little more, but it was just too short notice. 1962 01:56:05,260 --> 01:56:07,820 So I just figured we just talked about it in announcement. 1963 01:56:08,260 --> 01:56:12,640 So I have just one other quick update last evening. 1964 01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:18,660 I mentioned who sent out the draft a request for the village of Greenport on the transportation 1965 01:56:18,660 --> 01:56:22,020 study or the area of those different roads. 1966 01:56:22,920 --> 01:56:27,020 I was waiting for the village to have their talk about it, which I think happened. 1967 01:56:27,020 --> 01:56:35,140 and then Trustee N. Lee is on tour of the Mary Beth Phillips, and I met with Tommy John 1968 01:56:35,140 --> 01:56:40,340 Skivoni with the head office hours in grief, or so it's on his radar, but we'll bring 1969 01:56:40,340 --> 01:56:45,260 a formal request to the town board, hopefully, at our next meeting, because we can formally 1970 01:56:45,260 --> 01:56:46,000 support that. 1971 01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:52,700 The only other topic that's still floating around is perhaps the conversation with our county 1972 01:56:52,700 --> 01:56:56,660 legislature, Droski. I know he's been trying to get a lot of information 1973 01:56:56,660 --> 01:57:01,280 pulled together for the region regarding flock cameras. So at some point, getting 1974 01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:05,460 some kind of a more community-based discussion on that. When is the schedule 1975 01:57:05,460 --> 01:57:09,420 coming to work for? Is there something scheduled? Again, we've had to share about 1976 01:57:09,420 --> 01:57:13,220 a couple of years. And that's why it's been... No, I was thinking more 1977 01:57:16,090 --> 01:57:20,870 October 6th, sorry. Yeah, but this is, I think we'll start with that, if this is not 1978 01:57:20,870 --> 01:57:25,950 the community asking questions. Someone who's actually involved with the answering question. 1979 01:57:27,250 --> 01:57:32,430 So the community might be like, oh, okay, they might have more questions, but at least they'll 1980 01:57:32,430 --> 01:57:38,030 get the information. So we have the sheriff coming in over six. I don't know if we want our chief to 1981 01:57:38,030 --> 01:57:42,970 give what, you know, South Pole cameras are doing. So that's also, of course, the community in conversation. 1982 01:57:44,010 --> 01:57:47,690 So we have that schedule. I didn't realize that was already done. Thank you. Yeah, we tried to do 1983 01:57:48,830 --> 01:57:52,950 and it wasn't that fairly confirmed either, so it's great that it's confirmed. 1984 01:57:53,070 --> 01:57:56,070 Oh yeah, thanks to Lauren and Michelle, it was confirmed. 1985 01:57:56,390 --> 01:57:58,450 Great, that'll be a good one. 1986 01:57:58,490 --> 01:58:00,750 And thank you for developing the questions that we had. 1987 01:58:01,270 --> 01:58:03,750 And Chief Grant was able to deliver it to the Sheriff's Department. 1988 01:58:03,930 --> 01:58:07,190 They answered them and that's what they're going to be discussing on October 6th. 1989 01:58:07,210 --> 01:58:09,270 I should note that I still have some technical questions. 1990 01:58:09,270 --> 01:58:10,770 The block has not been able to answer them. 1991 01:58:11,010 --> 01:58:14,170 And I feel like there have been some questions raised also about the process 1992 01:58:14,170 --> 01:58:19,370 us about how, you know, they came into being and what we thought they were being used 1993 01:58:19,370 --> 01:58:19,570 for. 1994 01:58:19,650 --> 01:58:20,570 They are being you now. 1995 01:58:21,010 --> 01:58:22,850 So do we have it open? 1996 01:58:23,690 --> 01:58:23,850 Excellent. 1997 01:58:24,170 --> 01:58:29,330 So that it can be part of the October or the October 6th, okay, did you want to say a few 1998 01:58:29,330 --> 01:58:30,010 about the meeting we have? 1999 01:58:36,300 --> 01:58:38,200 So it is 10 after 11. 2000 01:58:39,220 --> 01:58:40,360 We're going to break the list. 2001 01:58:40,600 --> 01:58:40,680 Okay. 2002 01:58:41,040 --> 01:58:41,440 I'm so new. 2003 01:58:41,580 --> 01:58:42,860 Just have one more very, very far. 2004 01:58:44,140 --> 01:58:47,660 So after meeting with the dear management committee. 2005 01:58:47,660 --> 01:58:56,720 One of the recommendations was to possibly discuss with the New York State Department Health 2006 01:58:56,720 --> 01:59:03,860 or the county the possibility of a declaration of a health hazard before it took more than this. 2007 01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:08,760 Some prior discussion have been done over a state of emergency, 2008 01:59:09,200 --> 01:59:14,300 getting that is incredibly difficult. However, the declaration of a health hazard could possibly 2009 01:59:14,300 --> 01:59:18,320 open up some legislative options for us here in Southhold, as far as more deer management 2010 01:59:19,640 --> 01:59:26,100 options, counties, fading, etc. So this is something that the deer management committee will 2011 01:59:26,100 --> 01:59:30,500 come to you more formally with for whom we talked to Tommy John about, but I just want to put it on 2012 01:59:30,500 --> 01:59:30,920 your radar. 2013 01:59:33,080 --> 01:59:37,700 I think we're going to remember when we first started the deer committee back in the day 2014 01:59:37,700 --> 01:59:40,980 that we tried to do that. Was it emergency? 2015 01:59:41,540 --> 01:59:45,520 It was a tumor difference. I tried to help that. 2016 01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:45,800 I tried to help that. 2017 01:59:47,060 --> 01:59:50,040 I think it was a health hazard. 2018 01:59:50,260 --> 01:59:53,840 I'm not really sure. Maybe one is more extreme than the other. 2019 01:59:53,900 --> 01:59:58,140 Right, right. I think we tried both ways, but I don't know. 2020 01:59:58,140 --> 01:59:59,960 Oh, it's a holy ritual. 2021 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:06,840 Or a member that was, it's definitely, yeah, I don't know, like, going from medical test, you know, 2022 02:00:06,860 --> 02:00:13,420 tell them, because they could trigger a, I'm happy to have a flag. Sure, jokes. I don't know 2023 02:00:13,420 --> 02:00:18,200 if he was on the original one. I know you'd have to stand up for us. So this would be the chair. Yeah. 2024 02:00:19,580 --> 02:00:25,740 John Rossweiler had this, yeah, he was, yeah, he was, yeah, okay. So John will know what we went through 2025 02:00:25,740 --> 02:00:31,880 the last time, yes. But they were significantly worse than we think that appealing to the 2026 02:00:31,880 --> 02:00:34,840 county or even the state. I think it's a great opportunity. 2027 02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:41,340 Yeah, once we did it the first time, it was more of a southhold problem now. It's a country 2028 02:00:41,340 --> 02:00:47,200 problem. Yeah. I mean, so I think framing it as a southhold problem. That is a question. 2029 02:00:47,280 --> 02:00:54,120 Yes, obviously, it's gotten worse. Yeah. Yeah. Just a lot of thoughts about this 2030 02:00:54,120 --> 02:00:57,240 part of lunch or flying. You remind me to talk about environmental issues. 2031 02:00:57,500 --> 02:01:01,020 Yes, the other now. There's a nice article from the Suffolk Times from 2032 02:01:01,020 --> 02:01:04,680 Nick Manjolvi and he spoke to entomologists, Jared Dwight Dyer. 2033 02:01:05,560 --> 02:01:07,460 And I like his advice. I just want to read it. 2034 02:01:07,820 --> 02:01:11,060 Homeowners don't need to panic. Mr. Dyer said, if you see them, 2035 02:01:11,320 --> 02:01:15,840 the recommendation is to crush or stomp them. For larger numbers around a home 2036 02:01:15,840 --> 02:01:21,140 a vacuum can work. Mr. Dyer suggested a backpack vacuum or a shop 2037 02:01:21,140 --> 02:01:27,920 not back is also effective for quick non-chemical localized methods. So essentially, there's 2038 02:01:28,560 --> 02:01:33,160 this guy's from Cornell Cooperative Extension. We have the EEC recommendations. They essentially 2039 02:01:33,160 --> 02:01:38,580 are saying, don't panic, but yes, if you see them, get them, and if you see them, and then 2040 02:01:38,580 --> 02:01:43,020 the non-chemical response is to vacuum them up with a shop back or something like that. 2041 02:01:43,200 --> 02:01:47,400 But right now, the situation is not critical, but it's something that's being monitored and 2042 02:01:47,400 --> 02:01:49,880 people have been commenting about our Facebook and all over the place. 2043 02:01:50,100 --> 02:01:53,060 Well, corner of corporate extension has been served about us for years. 2044 02:01:53,060 --> 02:01:53,360 Oh, yeah. 2045 02:01:54,240 --> 02:01:56,640 I did want to speak about that. 2046 02:01:57,320 --> 02:02:01,760 I spoke to the free committee chair, and it's really not, you know, in our, in our, our 2047 02:02:01,760 --> 02:02:03,600 purview, but they know about it. 2048 02:02:03,880 --> 02:02:07,000 And I did put a quick link on our 10 website to the DEC. 2049 02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:09,540 We have a site that explains everything on that. 2050 02:02:10,260 --> 02:02:13,220 Nordhorksson also did Nordhorkville that has a lot of links in it. 2051 02:02:13,220 --> 02:02:18,660 and touch the norms, and they, they, between Cornell and DEC, they, they think they're coming 2052 02:02:18,660 --> 02:02:23,540 up with some good solutions to eradicate, yeah, this is, they've been, Cornell's been 2053 02:02:23,540 --> 02:02:28,000 working on it for a number of years, this season, like, something just, and there are natural 2054 02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:33,000 predators, there's some, some insect that attacks them, birds are eating them, so hopefully 2055 02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:37,860 there's a natural fix that it just, you can put them on the menu and somehow, you know, 2056 02:02:43,160 --> 02:02:43,200 you 2057 02:02:51,280 --> 02:03:12,460 I'll make a resolution to go on executives to bring for lunch until noon and then go into executive session for legal advice from our town attorney and then Kate Hachens, New York State, a OT council, town planning director, Heather Lands, Atlanta, Mara. 2058 02:03:12,460 --> 02:03:18,760 Marist Sarozo, Community Development Project, Supervisor Andrea Sullivan, Deputy Supervisor 2059 02:03:18,760 --> 02:03:25,840 John Sykes, potential acquisition sale, release of real property, where publicly would substantially 2060 02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:27,040 affect the value thereof. 2061 02:03:27,080 --> 02:03:31,440 We have low league call of coming in, labor matter, if you have any climate employment in particular 2062 02:03:31,440 --> 02:03:38,940 persons, Deputy Supervisor John Sykes, Dan Goodwin, Alexis Sous, EDC member, town board discussion 2063 02:03:38,940 --> 02:03:42,060 on government liaison, community engagement, Spanish-speaking positions, 2064 02:03:42,340 --> 02:03:48,340 downward discussions, architect position, and then we have Kate Seaman, 2065 02:03:48,460 --> 02:03:49,680 so talk about contracts and negotiations. 2066 02:03:50,200 --> 02:03:51,840 I assume for issues, island stuff. 2067 02:03:53,340 --> 02:03:54,160 So moved. 2068 02:03:54,360 --> 02:03:54,880 Oh, I agree. 2069 02:03:56,180 --> 02:03:56,580 I agree. 2070 02:03:56,880 --> 02:03:57,460 I agree. 2071 02:03:57,940 --> 02:03:58,360 Excellent. 2072 02:03:58,360 --> 02:03:58,920 Thank you very much.