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[0:00] All right. Welcome everyone. You guys come up, please.
[0:11] Review of the annex building renovation plans. So this, um, yeah, we've been building here. We need to take care of it. Um, I know no one really looked part of the plans and for a site layout.
[0:31] Yeah, 10 years ago, we haven't even had that as sort of a passion of growth.
[0:46] And before we send everything out, we wanted to make sure that everybody was going to sign it.
[0:51] I think we're going to open up everyone's veins, right?
[0:54] The sign is on name.
[0:56] And make sure this is it.
[1:00] The next week, we don't want to hear from you, right?
[1:03] Yes, that is correct. Okay, so go ahead.
[1:06] All right, so what we talked about last time is that before we can move forward
[1:10] with trying to get plans and specs done for the complete renovation as building,
[1:15] we have to agree and lock where departments are going to be at the end of this renovation process.
[1:22] I didn't distribute drawings because the drawings that we have
[1:26] are in Hodgepodge of about 150 different scenarios, not what you agree with each other.
[1:31] So I have maps here in case you need something visual to talk about, but basically the
[1:36] nuts and bolts of where departments go under this whole plan that's been developed over the last
[1:41] 10 years is in these bullets where the first move where you know would essentially be to
[1:51] re completely renovate the bank area. That bank area would accommodate the town clerk,
[2:00] records management, and a new office for the trustees. So for a town hall,
[2:06] you'd be moving the clerk and records management out of the town hall into the bank area,
[2:12] which opens up their space for other offices to move into.
[2:18] The current plan is to use the court office area as the town attorney's office.
[2:26] That would be the consolidate.
[2:27] It's a right now that attorneys are split up into the main office and that little satellite
[2:31] office.
[2:32] All of them would move to that location.
[2:35] Next door is records management.
[2:37] That would be where code enforcement would move into.
[2:41] They're currently located in the second four of the annex.
[2:43] So then that would fully occupy the space that's vacated in town hall.
[2:49] So for the annex that building were currently in, the bank area again would be renovated.
[2:55] Quirk moves in there, records management.
[2:58] There's a couple of other conference rooms and other amenities that we don't need to get into,
[3:03] but the trustees would also get a new office there and they would move to there.
[3:11] The ZBA, which was currently next to the trustees on the first floor, now they would move
[3:17] to the relocated space of the town attorneys on the second floor, but the main office
[3:24] only.
[3:25] That still represents a doubling of their floor area, so that should be all that they need.
[3:29] And then the space that's vacated by the current trustees in ZBA, that would be the building
[3:35] Department expands into those areas to cover offices for a part-time personnel which are currently
[3:41] floating around the annex. Then that leaves the second floor of the annex where again
[3:48] Town Attorney's office has now the main office has become ZBA. The secondary office which currently
[3:56] houses part of the Town Attorney's would be it's adjacent to the controller so we'd knock down that
[4:02] wall and then we'd expand that to accommodate them. The code enforcement, which is currently
[4:09] located in the second floor, would have moved under this scenario. Their space remains open.
[4:17] During all the iterations that we did, the town historian was still located there and there was
[4:22] not anticipated that the town historian would move. So right now we don't have a purpose for that,
[4:27] that's flex space we can leave it open or someone can suggest a move we're good with either it's
[4:35] there's no there's no restriction to really open go in there and then there you are about that
[4:41] great thank you John yeah and then there are no changes planned to the planning or land preservation
[4:48] department discussions with everyone there they said they're happy with the space they have in the
[4:52] layout that they have. And so that would be the sum total of the moves, would use the
[4:59] space better, and would give everybody at least more space than they have now.
[5:06] What's the nature of the upgrades? The physical nature, I mean the AC, the heat, the plumbing
[5:13] though.
[5:15] All right, so that's a separate issue from who's going where? So then if you want to get
[5:20] into the nuts and bolts of what a complete renovation would look like.
[5:23] Can we go back to the space?
[5:26] You signed it already?
[5:28] I didn't sign that.
[5:30] I've just two quick questions.
[5:32] You alluded to other meeting rooms where the clerk is going.
[5:37] Are those for committee meetings, public meetings, like one of their spaces will be in that
[5:42] main area you said?
[5:43] Whatever you want to use it for.
[5:45] Right now, it's planned, I break out that again, drawing.
[5:49] Yeah, that's pretty brief.
[5:50] This is the one that's...
[5:51] Sorry, but I...
[5:52] Yeah, I said something about what those things are.
[5:54] You can look and you take the safety deposit box at their end.
[5:58] So obviously this was one of the meeting rooms that was added, the one that we're currently
[6:02] sitting in.
[6:03] We're going to fill the room.
[6:06] And so this is the annexed bank area.
[6:12] This is an existing small meeting room.
[6:15] And then these two spaces would be created as additional meeting rooms.
[6:22] And part of the whole plan would be developing a sequencing of how to work at stun, who moves where this type of flex phase could be built out into temporary offices so that people could be moved into it while they're renovated and then to look back out.
[6:38] and storage area of files, temperament,
[6:42] and so staging.
[6:43] Fortunately, for file storage, we have more than enough.
[6:48] I get the basement plan.
[6:50] We are done with the basement renovation.
[6:53] Other than the hotel room,
[6:57] the living room,
[7:01] everything you see here,
[7:03] this is the comfort room or current land.
[7:05] This is next to us.
[7:07] All of this area is all renovated and available for storage.
[7:11] This will open up once the police department is billed, because this is the PD files.
[7:16] So we do not lack for storage, that's the good thing.
[7:20] And I know that the clerks in the process are trying to cut down on files, and we talked
[7:23] about re-digitizing, so that hopefully when this eventually takes place, there will be far
[7:28] less space to move into.
[7:31] And all the downstairs with the HVAC and everything is good, so the storage would be in control.
[7:40] of this renovation plan would be a complete HVAC renovation of the entire building, including
[7:46] specific climate control devices for these spaces that would be used for record storage.
[7:53] And the reason we're talking about this is because about a month ago, I saw the work that was being done on the HVAC system
[8:01] and it was clear that we shouldn't move the clerk over,
[8:05] because that was the plan to move the clerk,
[8:07] and then we would start to renovate.
[8:10] And right now, we have all the room to stage,
[8:12] all the other departments,
[8:13] while the renovations being done,
[8:15] and then move the clerk in.
[8:17] So we don't want to,
[8:18] we want to do it as orderly as possible,
[8:20] and that's why we're,
[8:21] that's why we're here.
[8:22] It's a different plan than just moving the clerk.
[8:24] Another minor question that I know has come up
[8:27] every meeting about a staff break room,
[8:39] So under there, this is currently labeled as lounge, so this area here, which is the
[8:50] little wood paneled area in the bank, that would be taken and incorporate the existing
[8:56] bathroom into a break.
[8:57] We'll catch in for the chef. We're gonna hire.
[9:02] Yes, we are
[9:04] The chef's belly parking all the bells and whistles.
[9:08] All these locations make a lot of sense.
[9:10] Yeah, but I would be very comfortable signing this call.
[9:13] Me too.
[9:14] Yes.
[9:15] We too.
[9:16] That's good.
[9:17] Okay. Thank you.
[9:19] You heard it, right?
[9:20] You're on record.
[9:21] I'm going to be like you to produce it.
[9:24] You know, I'm going to go.
[9:25] Well, those are my 10 minutes. I'm sending out an email and then next week
[9:29] I'm the next board meeting. You'll see resolutions go on at things we'll get moving. So unless I hear otherwise
[9:34] This is what they're going to do it. I do it before we use our minds. Why do you have me where you are, right?
[9:43] I mean, so you you've moved to a new location and that's working one my happiness is a role
[9:48] Well, I mean it turns out that there's a lot of
[9:54] location, please, for the role that you're probably not might get my feeling has
[10:00] always been that that actually get knocked down so that we can reconfigure the
[10:06] parking lot to be more efficient. And if necessary, use it as a space. If these
[10:11] renovations trigger the requirement to upgrade the sanitary, that would be the
[10:15] perfect location to build the new sanitary in parallel with the existing one so
[10:21] that there's no loss of service.
[10:23] So then I guess my question is,
[10:24] where would all of yours,
[10:28] your operations move in that standard town board room
[10:30] and we do is our town board room?
[10:32] Is that big?
[10:32] And I mean, just want to go back,
[10:34] we're at DFW,
[10:35] and I just, is there a place for that in the...
[10:38] They're, I'm sure you invite space right now,
[10:41] I'm less concerned about providing space
[10:43] for a town engineer than the board providing a town engineer.
[10:47] Well, we're getting, we're getting,
[10:48] we're getting, we're getting, we're getting,
[10:52] We have a good plan here going forward and I think one thing that I'm sorry one thing that has to have been talked about this with Eric is the parking here.
[11:05] Right now a lot of if you come here to park the public access limited because all the town vehicles there.
[11:11] So we're going to we're going to redirect town vehicle to park elsewhere so the public actually has better access.
[11:17] as the building, especially during construction,
[11:20] we want to have that area cleared
[11:21] so we can have ease of vision.
[11:24] Yeah, more on that plan and then suddenly telling them,
[11:28] oh, it's gonna have to just be directed.
[11:32] Yeah, it blocks the thing, you know.
[11:35] On the town beach.
[11:37] Well, that's a good sign.
[11:39] The contract you were in is basically the size
[11:41] of the coding enforcement at the top of the stairs
[11:43] and there is still that office at DPW.
[11:46] So there is that kind of flex idea, right?
[11:48] I don't know if it's a lottery.
[11:50] Yeah, VPW is gone.
[11:52] No going back there.
[11:54] No going back there.
[11:55] I looked at the space earlier and they need that space.
[12:00] Okay. Maybe you also have these two offices in the bank area too,
[12:03] that we can move people around.
[12:04] So I think this new plan affords us to have a little bit of Italy
[12:11] and wiggle and stuff like that.
[12:12] And should we run out of space and we might find that the 600 square feet we've allocated for
[12:19] Conference rooms in that bank area. Yeah, that's that's that's yeah, isn't it especially uses us? Okay. Yeah. Excellent. Yeah. It's great.
[12:26] Thank you. Thank you. All right. Fine. Thanks. We'll live it. Great.
[12:30] When did we buy this building? Like eight and a half years ago, nine years ago. Did we have the conversation?
[12:36] You wanted to have about mechanicals just now because we said we were going to wait and
[12:40] Well, I just wanted a quick update on what exactly we don't do as far as the renovations go.
[12:47] Well, that would be one of the big parts of it, but essentially it's everything that's required,
[12:52] starting from HVAC to anything electrical, possibly need to deal with the septic,
[12:59] possibly need to use something with the elevator. Again, all of these are code issues that will come
[13:05] out during the design process. The important thing was knowing who's going where, because
[13:10] how you would hack up the space is a most important thing. Everything else can be designed
[13:14] into it later.
[13:15] Now do you think you're out of all that other stuff?
[13:17] It'll be stage properly.
[13:18] So now the next step is putting together an RFP for that project for the HVAC overhaul that
[13:24] you just described, because we're putting the work on the old bank to the side.
[13:30] No, no.
[13:31] The next thing I'm going to do is I'm going to get a revised drawing drawn up that can
[13:37] go out within a concept plan, and it's going to be an RFP for a suit to nuts design
[13:44] and engineering permitting all of that for the whole building, including laying out the
[13:49] stages.
[13:50] What happens when?
[13:51] Who moves when?
[13:52] Right.
[13:53] It's going to be like a five-year plan.
[13:55] Fantastic.
[13:55] And then you can work in pieces.
[13:56] So, indeed, you may be able to phase the bank work first and the HEM.
[14:01] You don't necessarily have to phase off moving the clerk to do all the HVAC if they are
[14:05] separate.
[14:06] Depends on the design.
[14:08] Depends on how much of this becomes centralized HVAC and how much of it becomes individualized
[14:12] spaces.
[14:13] It's great.
[14:14] And the HVAC engineer is going to be best suited to figure that out.
[14:16] That's really good news.
[14:17] That was a little bit of a feeling of a setback in the last meeting.
[14:20] Oh, we've got to wait to do that.
[14:22] We first have to do this or a co-verhaul.
[14:23] The idea they're all going to be playing together and then phased in a logical way is it's awesome. While we're on these stuff
[14:29] Hopefully I can update the carpet too
[14:32] That's won't overdo. I like the two-tone
[14:38] He sees gray and gray
[14:40] Thank you.
[14:43] Thank you guys
[14:43] Great news. Yeah, that's good for the rest of the building and it's used. Yeah. All right,
[14:52] next we have um so special events and I guess we're waiting for for Heather and special event but
[15:00] We had met with the government liaison probably two years ago on the special events, and I know that parking and amplified music was two of the big concerns for one of the reasons that started the whole special event process, right? Because I just go back to when we actually realized there was a need for something like this. I think the problem that we found was that I'm going to have a party on the weekend.
[15:29] and do I need to get a special event permit?
[15:32] You're gonna have a party on the weekend.
[15:33] Do you need to get a special event permit?
[15:35] So who's, you don't need one, I know.
[15:37] You're good.
[15:38] It was fun.
[15:39] He didn't have the fight.
[15:40] I would say that.
[15:42] But so it's kind of like up.
[15:44] It's kind of like a, I think that's as important
[15:47] as ample five music and how loud it could go
[15:50] and how long it can go for.
[15:52] Because that's easier to determine.
[15:54] And the mark is obviously an easier thing.
[15:57] So, I recommended another internal meeting and any board members welcome to come.
[16:04] I don't think there are any other board members there a couple of years ago.
[16:07] I think it was, I think it was just the people who were reviewing, you know, the clerk and the
[16:12] government liaison and the police department and planning. So, in the special event committee,
[16:17] I think you had a committee. You were there. I was there. Were you? Yeah.
[16:21] Yeah.
[16:22] Two years ago.
[16:23] I was on that special event.
[16:26] Well, that touches the actual service.
[16:28] Yes, it was a working group.
[16:30] This is just a working group.
[16:31] I think you need to have that again.
[16:33] So this is why I'm bringing this up, because we started that committee.
[16:36] And then it just kind of dropped, because other things became prior already.
[16:39] So I'm trying to bring it back to the surface.
[16:41] Well, working group includes.
[16:43] Now that's getting winter.
[16:44] Let's get a special event committee.
[16:46] So it's also a email shaming once the application is taken and goes through.
[16:51] through planning, building the town of Turner's office, it's essentially the special events
[16:59] committee plus town work.
[17:02] We never took the leg step of deciding who needs to get as much of it.
[17:09] That was the big question, but then others tried to make a sauce sauce.
[17:13] It sounds like it's very unnecessary.
[17:14] Well, we also got into a problem with the insurance, the $1 million or $2 million, that's
[17:21] I think that's very much the sort of.
[17:23] But also, and then we got into updating zoning
[17:26] because I talked about back when the zoning code
[17:32] was done for vineyards and wineries,
[17:34] it was just tasting rooms.
[17:36] But they've become something totally different.
[17:39] So why don't we update our code tool
[17:40] to automatically allow certain things with a site plan?
[17:44] Right.
[17:45] You know, some wineries have site plans, some don't.
[17:48] But, you know, if you have enough parking, you know, let them have music on the weekend with that special event, you know
[17:55] But have the boundaries and the restrictions and and we started getting into the amplified that's why they only came up
[18:02] Yeah, where those are located are not are sometimes in very residential areas that sometimes they're not yeah, well, what's kind of you decide?
[18:10] Yeah, and special events overlay
[18:16] But I think, you know, and this is why you, you know, Heather has been trying to figure
[18:22] out too in the zoning because then if, if we have all these things built into the zoning
[18:27] code, then somebody can come in for site plan and then planning work and just take care
[18:31] of it.
[18:31] And then it's a matter of fact of, oh, my site plan allows me to do this.
[18:35] Sure.
[18:35] And then it's just a matter of, okay, if they go outside of what they're allowed, then
[18:41] economy is worth it. And then we enforce it. Limit the number that so more questions
[18:46] than answers. Yeah, sorry, it's been those meetings. And it's so many people who are
[18:51] on this event committee. And I mean, Dennis is a pretty expert on this too. He's probably
[18:56] able to work to have an conversation. Like what goes just to him, what goes to the whole
[19:01] committee. So is the suggestion here to reboot that? Yeah, that's another yeah, to start
[19:07] talking about it again and actually get something accomplished. Even if it's just a piece of it
[19:12] here and there and the zoning is really critical, I think. And since we've put parts of the zoning
[19:17] on hold, I was adding a packet of this. That would form the problem too. We'll handle it during
[19:22] zoning update, then that change. Still, that was another. We want to make food and other produce.
[19:26] Right. No, no, no. That's a thing. So then we accomplish this without changing.
[19:32] Well, we could, but then I think it would be like more of a more of a special use permit type of
[19:37] because it wouldn't be running with the, it's not, like zoning, we have the right to do it.
[19:41] It would be especially use permit where you'd have the right to do it outside of your area.
[19:44] Yeah, so maybe if we can get the perimeter of what we want to eventually change the pose.
[19:49] And then we say, okay, come in for a special permit that will last a year.
[19:53] And every year, and you come in once a year instead of every event.
[19:56] So here's your, here's your, but that's, that's simple, I'm just saying something,
[20:02] Yes, that happens. That's been civil, but I can't add a bit. That leads to it.
[20:06] But something temporal, we can change the zone.
[20:08] And is it possible there could be an appetite even to change the zone once the housing gets through
[20:13] the open of early, kind of, no, deflocking? Yeah.
[20:17] What do you mean? I mean, it's not earlier rather than later thing.
[20:20] If we're picking things off, it's not like, it's not, it's not like, okay, no, no, it's not, I mean,
[20:25] housing is still the very prayer. I was thinking of size, yeah.
[20:28] And not then we also have small misses and add.
[20:29] Yes.
[20:30] I'm going to show you the answer.
[20:32] Okay.
[20:32] Good to read for you.
[20:33] But I think if we, yes.
[20:34] I think if we couldn't, you know, we want to come up with, you know, of what we think we
[20:40] want to change code and then somehow implement that with a special use permit.
[20:46] Yeah.
[20:47] And then that's if the way to work it out and see if it works.
[20:49] I don't want to start changing codes.
[20:52] No, that's not saying.
[20:53] That's not saying.
[20:54] Put that in the box.
[20:55] Yeah.
[20:55] Delete that comment.
[20:57] Yeah.
[20:59] I'm going to jump to item, but let me just, so the amplified music part, that's, it goes with it, but it's also kind of separate because it is becoming more and more of an issue as each summer comes, comes and goes.
[21:18] So I think that's something that we have to kind of go over this winter and be ready for next season to have an answer.
[21:27] No, no, the amplified music in the park are two, those are the two big things.
[21:31] But it goes back to the original problem as who, well, they don't get a permit.
[21:37] Why do I need a permit? And it goes back to that again.
[21:40] But we can do the amplified music separate.
[21:43] So we can look at how do you get people to come in?
[21:46] No.
[21:47] How do you get people to come in?
[21:49] Well, it wouldn't be for a comment.
[21:50] But no.
[21:51] It would be a judge like you said in Jack,
[21:53] whether it's at a restaurant or a restaurant.
[21:55] Oh, thank you.
[21:56] Oh.
[21:57] And that goes beyond just special events.
[21:59] Right.
[21:59] If you're not commercial.
[22:01] Yeah.
[22:02] Amplified.
[22:03] Separate.
[22:03] Everything.
[22:04] Whether it's something back.
[22:06] So you're talking about limiting it?
[22:08] What?
[22:09] Well, that's the discussion we have to have.
[22:11] So just bring me it up as a separate topic and not waiting for special events.
[22:16] So Eric McClure suggested that other municipalities have made a code of absolutely no amplified
[22:26] music. So we have to have that discussion. Do we go from absolutely no amplified music to sections
[22:33] of amplified music days and times to inside only no outside? Like those are the discussions that I
[22:39] I think we should have a separate meeting to talk about just amplify music and how we
[22:44] wanted to look in this town so everybody can live together with it because you want
[22:49] to answer and you want to have that entertainment but you also don't want somebody's windows
[22:54] shabby, you know.
[22:55] So that is a great idea but we have to finish the housing things first I think.
[23:02] I don't want to get distracted and get off course because the people who work that a lot
[23:08] of our housing initiatives are going to be very much to have a lot of work done then.
[23:13] I think we can do both at once because I don't think the amplified music is going to take as
[23:17] much energy as the housing and I don't think it's really going to take away from...
[23:21] I would argue that there's a lot of energy towards housing. We have both the short temperamentals,
[23:26] which you have. We also have the housing programs as well. I am also concerned about taking time away.
[23:32] I don't want to be distracted by something that's important.
[23:35] I'm not thinking like, I mean, maybe, I'm not saying like what's set up a meeting tomorrow,
[23:40] but maybe like let's have it in the back of our minds that maybe by February we start
[23:45] talking about amplifier music, so we're ready for the next season.
[23:48] The way I understood this was that the conversations are going to start happening, it just won't
[23:52] be any actual code changes until after we get through the top priority.
[23:56] So there's nothing to stop the conversation that's kind of what I'm, yeah, I have to get
[23:59] an idea of what, you know, where we're going to go with it, yes, people are constantly coming
[24:04] to all of us, saying, you know, complaining about the amplified music, the police are constantly going
[24:10] out. I mean, it's going to be forced to become a priority, whether we think it should be or not.
[24:16] I think it's important. It's also going to bring in the whole lead flow conversation, which I think
[24:21] it's important. But I think if we get distracted from short fermentals and housing.
[24:28] So we need to make sure it doesn't distract us, but I think Jill's point is, let's get it on
[24:33] like early December, we're going to be reminded that, you know, where would this fit now if we get into the budget?
[24:40] And if we, yeah, I'm not saying, let's go to that tomorrow.
[24:43] Like, if we could just get background on current code, like, what's the current code,
[24:49] just so we can familiarize ourselves with it as we're starting to simmer.
[24:53] A year ago.
[24:53] Where you could have your own task force just on tamplified itself.
[24:57] This was a hot topic on Earth.
[24:58] police advisory. I mean that's getting most impact. Well and I mean we can we can task it with
[25:04] the police advisory. We have nothing task for them right now and we have them do the background
[25:09] like what do other towns do like we do know what like we do with irrigation on the water committee.
[25:13] We did the yeah we did some background see what other towns are doing.
[25:18] This small report says yes or so. She's the hot topic last summer of the supervise
[25:24] associations because they are seeing them everywhere and the more people you get close
[25:28] to being able to get the more impact you get from the amplified music.
[25:31] So we can think of the great idea.
[25:33] I think it's got us all the way up with Chris North and put it on the agenda for the next
[25:38] meeting.
[25:38] Yeah.
[25:39] And then they can look into it.
[25:40] That's who gets right now most impacts with the calls.
[25:43] Absolutely.
[25:43] What is it taking?
[25:44] They're going on.
[25:44] Is it really helping?
[25:46] Through the frontline dealing with it.
[25:47] Yeah.
[25:47] High five, Jill.
[25:49] I agree.
[25:49] I agree.
[25:52] So now we have some direction, thank you.
[25:55] So now Heather is here?
[25:56] Could I have ten minutes to finish the handout?
[25:59] Yep.
[25:59] I just had a couple things I had to add to it.
[26:02] I'll see you in a little bit.
[26:02] I'll just leave it down.
[26:04] I just want to work for the housing.
[26:06] Yeah.
[26:06] That's what's next, right?
[26:08] Oh, okay.
[26:09] Yes.
[26:09] I'm sorry.
[26:10] Go ahead.
[26:11] All right.
[26:12] We're going to get the item for then.
[26:16] I think before it's downbreak.
[26:18] I'm going to put it on the floor.
[26:19] Yeah.
[26:19] I missed out on.
[26:22] Ah, yeah.
[26:23] Item forward soaps.
[26:25] Cover me that Drum Shakespeare.
[26:26] Cover me a zone of one slaughter of slide a couple of
[26:30] years ago.
[26:31] With the help of Michael
[26:33] and Michael Collins and
[26:35] highward Superintendent,
[26:36] Dan Goodwin and John
[26:37] Sevenosky, they worked on this grant
[26:39] to see what could happen,
[26:41] so all that we are working with
[26:46] the report and going on.
[26:48] We did not.
[26:48] We were not award at
[26:49] grant and the grant was for basically a soft approach there towards mitigating erosion at the
[26:56] beach. Then luckily we didn't get that money because it would have been a plan for something
[27:02] that would not have held up under other nature's demands there. And so the grant was reapplied for
[27:11] and we did we were approved for it this year. So you know thank you to Gwen for doing that work
[27:19] And so the suggestion was from Michael to do a heavy or a cobble beach and this of course
[27:25] reaction to the reality on the site, the heavier cobble approach to the beach instead
[27:31] of sand and we did apply, we were awarded, this is just something I saw the trustees this
[27:39] morning they were headed out on field inspection, you know, of course they've been notified.
[27:43] Like if everyone could take a look at this, I do have a letter I would like to sign.
[27:50] You know, thanking them for their support of this and saying that we will be happy to participate in this.
[27:58] This does force tie in with the elevation of the parking lot.
[28:02] It's not just the armoring, but it's also the elevation, of course, that it ties in with the Suffolk County DPW.
[28:09] You know, Suffolk County, and I'm trying to get,
[28:14] we have Suffolk County DPW out there in the winter time,
[28:17] looking at the condition of the beach and the road,
[28:19] they still have some infrastructure on our property there.
[28:22] They need to be partners with us on their infrastructure.
[28:27] This is, raising that road is in the Suffolk County's
[28:29] coastal resiliency plan.
[28:32] Wow, great.
[28:32] As a priority.
[28:34] As in the top 10 priorities.
[28:36] Wow.
[28:36] Yes.
[28:37] and it should be number one, but number four, but I, well, the rent I put, so trying to get the county executive on board with, you know, this project raising the road and whatnot.
[28:53] And you didn't mention it the other night, coastal resiliency didn't come up at all, but hopefully we can get as attention with this, with this project, then we can get the support.
[29:03] to we, if they raised the road, the county road, you know, we have land there to help support
[29:09] that effort. So it should be a good collaborative project.
[29:12] I was at that address for his county address, and he did mention you several times.
[29:17] Yeah. And in a hopeful way, he mentioned some environmental projects. Hopefully, that's the
[29:22] the segue that the county can support the town for supporting. I know,
[29:27] it's also spoke to Congressman Loda when he visited us with some of the funds and
[29:32] and he said that's a possibility.
[29:34] So I'm just glad that you took that opportunity
[29:37] to speak to him for that federal support.
[29:39] So I appreciate that.
[29:40] And also you talked to him about
[29:41] pledging amount of tuck inlet.
[29:42] Yes.
[29:43] So I just appreciate that you're Johnny on the spot
[29:45] and people when we have people in our orbit
[29:48] that can help support us.
[29:49] And you know, that should be their responsibility.
[29:51] And you mentioned that to them.
[29:54] So thank you for talking to him.
[29:55] We have a lot of good partners out there.
[29:58] I'd also like to point out this totally,
[29:59] Pleasant.
[30:00] The conversation of a couple of work sessions to go about climate resiliency and kind of and having that lens and and the idea that this is a potential pilot, you know, for the rest of the county. It's, you know, we're part of this whole process of adaptation regionally. It's really exciting. And it looks like an amazing resource. And this is and the working group looks like it'll be very productive and it's a bunch of public engagement, which will also raise just sort of the general literacy about the
[30:31] We have meeting on site with all these people that we've already met with has been helpful
[30:39] because it's kind of showed us the supports there for this project.
[30:44] So we're not going to be getting into something that other regulatory agencies are going
[30:49] to be like, well, what are you doing there?
[30:53] We've built support for this in the past year to move forward.
[30:57] I'll just I remember that cold day. We're on the beach. Yeah, somehow way you got county people in New York State and
[31:05] EC. So I just appreciate that the people were there kicking the rocks and could see it instead of looking on
[31:11] Computer, they were actually there and probably only you could get out all those stakeholders there
[31:16] So I just appreciate that those people were brought together and gave some good suggestions and talked about their responsibility for us
[31:22] So thank you. Thank you
[31:23] So that's that. So if any of them don't want to get some, I'd like to sign that letter
[31:29] and set it back.
[31:30] Yes.
[31:31] Thank you.
[31:32] And more sec. Great.
[31:33] Good news.
[31:38] That was a big, that was a big grant. That was one of those interesting ones, wasn't it.
[31:45] So we can talk about the surveys, business surveys.
[31:49] I'm kind of wait just a little bit longer because there are some members that would want to
[31:52] join up so that we can work together.
[31:55] Thank you, Patrick.
[31:56] Can I just make a quick announcement?
[31:57] We have some neighbors on Zoom.
[31:58] Can I just say who's joining us?
[32:00] So we have Shreya Kevans-Ducy from Bringworth Village.
[32:03] We have Mary Ves Phillips from Trustee from Greenport Village.
[32:06] And Mike Tyner from the Great Cut-Chut Civic.
[32:09] So we just appreciate people in the public.
[32:11] Our neighbors joining us.
[32:12] And there's many other people.
[32:13] There's local media online.
[32:15] So just preach a lot more people are zooming in.
[32:18] And I'm glad that we offer that for the town teams.
[32:20] Thank you.
[32:21] And so we have this space here today because the town meeting hall was booked.
[32:26] We have, we are setting up with the same system, the iconic school.
[32:31] So that will be available very soon with the exact same system.
[32:35] So the sound quality and everything will be the same quality as it is here.
[32:39] And hopefully upstairs in the courtroom.
[32:42] Yes, I would be nice.
[32:45] Well, I think that's all.
[32:46] You don't think that's a matter of question.
[32:50] I think we need to just kind of exercise it up.
[32:53] It's a major thing.
[32:54] It's a major thing initially.
[32:55] I'm scared.
[32:56] I'm sorry.
[32:57] Well, that's just taking it easy.
[32:58] Yeah, I'm sorry.
[32:59] Yeah, but that's all.
[33:01] It's all an additional time.
[33:02] It's one thing at a time.
[33:03] Yes.
[33:04] And then it goes back to the discussions that we're having in the minute taking.
[33:08] Yes.
[33:09] And how would it all rise in with that?
[33:11] That's going to be a very helpful, good guy.
[33:14] That's a very good guy.
[33:15] I'm not just listening to him.
[33:17] It's a big deal.
[33:19] We're coming in at the point of sense.
[33:23] Yes, it is.
[33:24] Thank you so much.
[33:25] You're dragging me in.
[33:26] Kick her in the screen.
[33:27] Oops.
[33:30] Oh, this is a hot topic.
[33:32] Wow.
[33:32] Thank you.
[33:36] Good morning.
[33:36] Good morning.
[33:38] Oh, thank you.
[33:40] Oh.
[33:41] Just put up with identifying yourselves and wanting it here.
[33:44] Yes.
[33:45] I had a land on the town planning director here.
[33:48] to talk about community housing and our code amendments to get to the next step for
[33:54] this.
[33:56] Andrea Sullivan, the community development project supervisor, talked to you about the
[34:01] same thing, and on Maris Reza planner.
[34:05] So, as you might know, we have for the past four months, we've been working on code amendments
[34:15] for community housing.
[34:17] And the reason we're doing that is because we have a lot of conflicts in our existing
[34:21] town code, including inconsistencies with our new community housing plan.
[34:26] So the amendments were necessary to be able to implement the programs described in that
[34:30] community housing plan.
[34:33] So town staff, including three of us and assistant town attorney Julie McGibby, have been working
[34:40] very hard for the past four months on this code.
[34:43] We outlined on the first page of this handout the steps that we see happening.
[34:50] Step one is drafting a new chapter 112 to administer the community housing fund.
[34:58] So it's what will guide the implementation of the housing plan and where the general rules
[35:03] around affordability and eligibility would be contained.
[35:07] Currently those rules are found in several places in the code including our affordable housing zoning district.
[35:11] and we thought this all was a much
[35:14] leader package to be a separate
[35:16] chapter with the rules all located
[35:19] there. That's step one is drafted
[35:22] and ready to go. That's the committee
[35:24] we're thinking about. We have planned
[35:26] for next week. Step two is revising
[35:30] chapters 17 and 34. 17 just needs
[35:33] some minor revisions. 34 just needed
[35:37] some revisions to be consistent with
[35:39] Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry about that. Chapter 17 is the community housing, the community preservation fund chapter that establishes the fund itself for community housing. Chapter 34 is the old housing code.
[35:57] The housing chapter we had where we would spend money from inclusionary zoning buyouts.
[36:04] So, I'm just financially those two separate costs money, so we can't, you know, there's
[36:13] a way to spend each one from, so we have the 0.5% is under 17, and the other money that
[36:21] we have is under 31, so it gets confusing, and that's another reason why these codes have
[36:27] to be mulled together.
[36:28] That's right.
[36:29] That's right.
[36:29] That's right.
[36:31] So we're keeping chapter 34, but it's going to refer to chapter 112, and it's going
[36:37] to, the other thing it does is it replaces the Housing Advisory Commission with the Community
[36:45] Housing Advisory Board.
[36:48] Step three, we are drafting a new Community Housing Overlay District in chapter 280 zoning.
[36:56] This would replace the affordable housing district, and that is largely drafted already, but I think we're going to have enough for code committee on the 15th looking at steps 1 and 2, because it's a lot the new.
[37:12] What is the change there?
[37:14] I say that because I was not on the board of housing.
[37:16] So the board of housing district, which has been in the code for a while, it has right
[37:22] now it contains all the eligibility requirements for affordable housing.
[37:26] So all that has to come out, go into chapter 112.
[37:30] It has a lot of inconsistencies with the community housing plan, so it needs to be really drastically
[37:36] simplified down to what are the permitted uses and where, where is this allowed to be landed.
[37:40] And unfortunately, I can't make it on Tuesday, but I'll catch up with you after.
[37:47] So step four, we have some other chapters that refer to affordable housing, community
[37:54] housing, but they're not, they're obsolete references.
[37:57] So chapter 117, sanitary flow credits has references in it that need correction and chapter 240
[38:04] subdivisions also has references that need correction.
[38:08] Step five is looking at Chapter 280, our accessory apartment regulations.
[38:14] If you look at the table I handed out, it has every place accessory apartments are mentioned in the code.
[38:24] And then across the top it says whether or not it requires rental to an eligible person,
[38:31] a community housing eligible person, whether or not it's required to be affordable,
[38:35] whether or not it has the option for a family member, and you can just see by a glance
[38:41] at this figure that our code is wildly inconsistent with each other.
[38:46] So that's a big job on looking at that and job just to do the chart.
[38:53] So I mean, so we've been working, this just shows that we've been working, but about what's
[38:58] the timeline on those things, because we talked, I'm sorry to interrupt, so it's a really
[39:03] good point.
[39:03] We talked about code committee on the 15th, and now we've got one town board member that's not coming.
[39:10] I assume there'll be the rest of the town board will be in attendance.
[39:13] But we want to move this along.
[39:15] We don't want to say, well, let's wait for two weeks and let everybody catch up.
[39:18] I don't need for many.
[39:19] So that don't want to.
[39:20] I don't want to.
[39:21] Yeah, I think I have a car.
[39:23] Yeah.
[39:23] Yeah.
[39:26] But if we get the code committee and I know so much work's been done internally.
[39:30] And everyone says, and the public says, oh, that's wow, great work.
[39:35] Then we just schedule public hearings and move this forward.
[39:39] I don't want to pass to all go together.
[39:42] So we can I don't think we can adopt chapter 112 without doing community housing overlay.
[39:46] And that's why that's my question is how what's the timeline?
[39:50] I think potentially three step four we can probably if we get through step four,
[39:55] we can probably do some adoption because I think all of the hang together.
[40:02] I don't want to say, okay, well, we did that, we did one through four, now we have to do one through eight, and then we have to do one through 12 or whatever, and then it's like there has to be enough time to for stakeholder
[40:15] or comments, and for us to share this with the community,
[40:21] we have to have comments before public hearings,
[40:24] as well as possibly information sessions,
[40:26] we're talking about that kind of experience.
[40:28] I think the public's in the 8 year already, right?
[40:34] I think the public's been engaged.
[40:36] Once the new...
[40:37] Why do you say that?
[40:38] That's how it looks like.
[40:38] That's something.
[40:39] I mean, once the news draft code is released,
[40:41] the public shouldn't child means to look at it.
[40:46] So once we get through, once we get through Step 4, right, and say everybody's like, oh,
[40:52] this is great.
[40:53] We go to public hearing.
[40:55] We adopt the code.
[40:57] Can we simultaneously move forward with our housing program?
[41:01] Why we're still fixing the rest of the...
[41:03] When you say housing program, do you mean to give them service to the...
[41:05] Yes.
[41:06] Yes.
[41:07] I think we're going forward with spending some money.
[41:09] but once they're formally implemented into the code,
[41:13] however long that process takes,
[41:15] and we have the program ready and reviewed by the CHABB.
[41:18] Yeah, that's what I mean.
[41:19] After all that is done, we would be in better shape
[41:21] and give out some money.
[41:22] Okay.
[41:23] Before all these things are done, or?
[41:25] Just took, I think through four is where you need to get through
[41:28] to be able to spend the money
[41:29] because you've fixed your,
[41:31] so we've got to say, yeah, once we get through it
[41:33] for everything's complete, all those things they're done,
[41:36] And we can simultaneously say, okay, now let's see what this program can do.
[41:42] Let's have this project as we're still reviewing all these other changes.
[41:45] Yes.
[41:46] And then in the background of all of this is the Down Payment Assistance Loan program,
[41:50] which can begin, this has been the focus.
[41:53] Right.
[41:53] One step, that's what I'm saying.
[41:54] Yeah.
[41:54] Okay.
[41:55] And you're going to hear.
[41:56] So when I wait until all these steps are done before we spend the penny.
[41:58] Exactly.
[41:59] Okay.
[41:59] And as they see today, we've already talked about some formal community meetings, informational
[42:05] meetings.
[42:05] because it's not public hearing, but like you did when you were doing the house and you kind of
[42:10] choked it and some open discussion like this is what we're doing, this is where we're going,
[42:15] people can hear us, people can write to us, people can play out ideas, the North Park Civics are
[42:21] planning a sort of idea, what are some possible ways to solve the issue so you've got a lot of
[42:29] I mean, not just input, but actual engagement in sort of proactive ideas, so that will help us just one quick way.
[42:38] Wouldn't the accessory apartments need to be part of that? I mean, I'm just worried why not?
[42:43] It's not to spend the money. I mean, right now we're stuck with the program of implementing some of the projects that we have hovering around, actually waiting.
[42:53] And I guess it's been that he's a think our attorney.
[42:56] I would emphasize getting it done right the first time.
[43:01] Yeah, but not that we're talking about rushing through it.
[43:04] But I would emphasize that probably some of the reason this is so complicated and a little
[43:11] bit kind of a little bit is probably because we've rushed it to task.
[43:15] So I would just exercise caution and try to get it right done right.
[43:19] Even if it takes a few more months, let's get it done right the first time rather than
[43:25] I agree. I agree. And I think that's why the tambourteous informs you guys to work on this.
[43:31] So we do get it done right. But I think if we all kind of have a picture of like, okay,
[43:35] if all this starts the line after step four and it works out and we become a little unstuck
[43:41] in certain areas, we can move forward with that and get something done. But if we get to that
[43:49] point and we say, no, we're still pretty stuck, we got to keep moving. Then that's what the answer
[43:53] But I think it's an important conversation to have now.
[43:56] And I just want to add, so if we don't do the accessory apartments along, you know, step
[44:02] one through five, excluding that, then I would be reviewing the federal subsidy program
[44:08] by developers with the CHAB.
[44:09] Okay.
[44:10] Once the accessory apartment one gets done, that's when I think the ADU program makes sense to begin the CHAB
[44:16] review of.
[44:17] And you can even parse out the accessory apartment regulations because you have two tracks.
[44:22] you have the aid to use residential zones and then you have accessory apartments and business
[44:26] zones. And that's two different things. And we had talked about getting in like a rhythm,
[44:35] you know, and I'm wondering, what do we have? I'm going to make a push for the day after
[44:40] time board meetings.
[44:43] You're here. Yeah. So we talked about, we have September 15th Schedule for Code
[44:50] committee. Yes. Just on that note, one thing I want to do was post the draft code that we're
[44:56] going to be talking about ahead of time for everybody to see, including...
[45:00] Sure. Okay. But yeah, that's really that on selling off date.com. And they'll link on the main ones. Yeah. So that's one thing. And then in terms of粒ment, keeping this going. One of the things, that the subcommittee on housing and Alexa. You guys talked about was a public info session and we had tentatively chosen September, troy nights. We won't have a lot done yet, but we'll have had one code committee
[45:29] And last you want to do another one next week because we'd be ready to do I mean what they'll be gaffer next
[45:35] So we'll be ready to do
[45:37] 112 17 and 34 steps one and two September 15th the following week
[45:42] We'd be ready to do with the community housing overlay district 23. Yes, absolutely. When you make the day
[45:49] Well, we want to win cates here
[45:50] Well, you have to all many for that conference
[45:53] But I will just zoom the can I can zoom in? Absolutely. Okay. I'll just go to
[45:57] Yeah, no, no, no.
[45:58] Third.
[45:59] Come in.
[46:00] I'll be there.
[46:00] I'll be there.
[46:02] What day of the week is that?
[46:03] That's what I was saying.
[46:06] It's fine.
[46:07] Okay.
[46:08] Well, it's gone.
[46:09] Because I'll be up in Texas.
[46:10] I'll be missing the next.
[46:12] My son's getting ACL surgery.
[46:14] Oh, I want to say it.
[46:15] Well, it's a text.
[46:16] I will be there.
[46:18] But you will soon.
[46:19] So you'll have to.
[46:20] Yeah, that's all right.
[46:21] So that's good momentum.
[46:21] And then after that every two weeks,
[46:23] and so we get it there.
[46:24] Because I think we do have a pay attention to the next.
[46:26] And that's good momentum.
[46:28] And then after that every two weeks.
[46:28] for example, in terms of tone board meetings.
[46:31] So we'll just do that every two weeks,
[46:33] Wednesday, schedule it.
[46:36] And so as far as, as far as, as far as scheduling,
[46:43] these things, and it goes back to my original question
[46:46] when I was, what's that?
[46:48] I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
[46:49] We have a way to read budget coming up,
[46:51] so we have to make sure.
[46:52] From September, we can do it,
[46:53] but then we have to take a break,
[46:54] I can, I have to go back to that, say, when we segment some of these things and we start
[47:05] to approve them, how does logistically, how do we move through that process smoothly?
[47:13] And I don't want to get hung up on, we did one through four, but we have to wait for comments
[47:18] and vents, cautionary advice is, I think, helpful, because I have a neighbor who used to
[47:28] say that, you know, you want to do it your way, you want to do it the right way.
[47:31] And so thank you for saying it nice of that, Beth.
[47:36] But how do you schedule all those components and not get stuck with, not get stuck in the
[47:46] but somehow with something else, oh, we didn't finish that.
[47:50] We can't finish this and give subsidies,
[47:52] because we didn't finish that.
[47:54] I really think it's some of these don't hinge on other things,
[47:58] like maybe some projects might,
[48:00] but I don't think the codes do.
[48:02] So that's why I lumped step one and two together.
[48:04] And then step three, if you do steps three and four,
[48:09] you've gotten to a point where you've taken out
[48:10] some of the major inconsistencies,
[48:12] the roadblocks to moving forward, the major roadblocks.
[48:15] Yeah, and then we get secret with it and everything so that takes time too.
[48:19] There's those components, but I do want to say that the whole code to some extent really
[48:23] does hang together as evidenced by this table.
[48:27] And so developers who may be really excited to know that the subsidy is unlocked may not
[48:34] know that changes in 280 zoning that impact them could potentially help them get to a bottom
[48:40] line that's going to better suit the project.
[48:42] Yeah. So I want to say that because it does all hang together while we have this urgency.
[48:48] I also just want to note that all of this stuff is actively being drafted. There's no,
[48:53] no one here has the break zone at all, okay? But when we are talking through the steps and all
[48:59] these other pages, we're working on all those other pages as well. So as much as you're ready to
[49:04] be at the table with us, moving things forward, we're here. And I'm glad you said that could so much
[49:10] work going on behind the scenes that people don't know about. And so that needs to be out there
[49:15] that this is not something that we're going to meet in two weeks. And then we'll schedule
[49:18] one of the meetings that it's actually the work is on going by staff every day.
[49:25] To that point, I mean, does there have to be a conflict that we're working on budget and can't we
[49:30] work on budget and code in October? And why is it one? I got that. I want another one.
[49:35] we would be working outside of the
[49:37] community.
[49:37] It's up to you.
[49:38] It's a two-hour
[49:39] hospital, but I think Wednesday.
[49:40] I'm just looking at that Wednesday.
[49:42] I know which one budget is really
[49:43] a lot.
[49:44] The meeting with
[49:45] October 7th.
[49:48] October 7th.
[49:49] I said during a certain time.
[49:51] So it's going to take up.
[49:52] We can zoom.
[49:53] It doesn't have to be the
[49:54] old.
[49:54] I would say is that the first week
[49:57] of October versus second week in
[49:59] October, we really need to concentrate
[50:01] on the budget, because that's when
[50:02] we have our all-hour prayers.
[50:03] Yes, you guys pick it. We're ready to go.
[50:05] We'll find a plan.
[50:06] Maybe we'll maybe do another dozen loves for the last two weeks of October to catch up.
[50:12] Yeah, it's good.
[50:13] We could have them.
[50:14] Yeah, let's do the first chapter of September.
[50:17] But let's get through September. See where we're at.
[50:19] And then we plan on building up.
[50:21] And if there are days when we're here for budget,
[50:23] and they have like, just a short piece for us.
[50:25] Maybe we can.
[50:26] I think there's a two.
[50:27] Yes.
[50:28] Excuse me.
[50:29] Yeah.
[50:30] Shell?
[50:30] No, this is just why I said perhaps that each meeting decided.
[50:36] Yes.
[50:37] That's why I looked too far out.
[50:39] Yeah.
[50:39] That's what I'm trying to get out.
[50:40] Let's get through September 1st.
[50:42] Thank you for clarifying that.
[50:44] Shell.
[50:45] All right.
[50:46] Okay.
[50:46] So, okay.
[50:47] Number five.
[50:48] We're up to number five.
[50:53] Five is the accessory park regulations.
[50:55] The big table.
[50:57] step 6 is chapter 207 rental permits. We also have a rental permit section in chapter 283D. They are not consistent.
[51:08] So we're suggesting that get reconciled and we have some good ideas for that.
[51:14] Is that part of the short-term rental? Is that going to be consistent with a short-term rental code?
[51:21] rental permits are rental permits. So they're not there. Yes, it will be. Okay.
[51:28] Step seven is the Hamlet Business Zoning District, the thought being adding apartments as
[51:34] the permitted French to use. So that's really the big fixer, but when you flip inside here,
[51:40] now there's a whole list of... So you can understand all the chapters and sections we'll
[51:45] So this just runs through a lot of what I just talked about, chapter 17, chapter 34.
[51:52] I gave up, chapter 112 was fully drafted, Andrea and Julie, and we really worked hard
[52:01] on this.
[52:01] And we also ran up by our legal consultant for, so this, this is every section of that chapter
[52:08] so you can see, and we'll post this, we've posted, probably tomorrow or Friday, Friday,
[52:15] Sorry, Fred, my heart dropped a little, it's largely grounded, just need some minor tweaks
[52:21] and it'll be posted on Friday, stuffalzoningupdate.com. And you could see me covered all of the
[52:28] the particulars of how to regulate the program generally without getting into a lot of specifics
[52:34] that the town board will change by all of these. Now, if it's going back to items that are in the
[52:41] of business, zoning, district.
[52:44] Yeah.
[52:44] Yeah.
[52:45] Even when I talked about housing, the town hall, the town had taken that parcel by eminent
[52:51] domain years ago, and we've been going it ever since, um, that would be an ideal location
[52:59] for housing.
[53:00] Was that something that we would, that would be changed in this to facilitate housing there?
[53:06] I think when we talk about community housing overlay, that's what's going to allow what we want to do there.
[53:13] Okay.
[53:14] So that would be a good opportunity, I think, for a good low-page law system for housing.
[53:19] All right.
[53:20] Chapter 17 starts with full credits.
[53:22] Talks a little bit about what we're doing in that.
[53:25] If you go to page four, we have the rental permit suggestion to move it back to chapter 28.
[53:34] So it's all in one place.
[53:36] Chapter 240, we have to revise to take out the obsolete and add chapter 112 references.
[53:44] And then zoning is the big one, obviously.
[53:47] You've got to think about both schedules.
[53:50] We already have some new definitions that you'll see in the community housing chapter 112.
[53:58] And then there are a bunch of definitions we're looking to make consistent with state building
[54:03] code.
[54:04] and other chapters, things like dwelling, apartment, those are just examples, there's a long list.
[54:13] The tree housing overlays a big one in 280 of some other minor sections.
[54:19] And then the last part of this starting on page 5 is basically looking at every zoning district
[54:26] and every reference to some sort of dwelling, whether it be sickle family, two family.
[54:32] and making sure all of those things match up and match the definitions and our appropriate
[54:39] and our consistent across districts where that's appropriate.
[54:46] And so this is just the existing code, pages 5, 6, 7, 8, but it shows you the number of sections
[54:53] we're actually reviewing, so you can see that we're going to match that up.
[54:56] Yeah.
[54:56] that's really appreciate all the work that's been done in this life. We have all this work,
[55:01] because we've never done it in this life. Right. Right. It's all that I don't know, little bits.
[55:05] Now, um, have you brought Mike very into this? Yeah. Are you okay? I've been meeting with him
[55:12] like when we were talking about definitions of things. I've been talking to Mike. Um, you know,
[55:17] mental formats, but um, he liked the idea of moving it back to 280. Yeah. Um, and just, you know,
[55:23] So going definitely, you know, he's so busy but finding time to sit down with him and go
[55:29] down.
[55:29] As long as he's in the conversation because he's, you know, he's got to be.
[55:33] He's got to be.
[55:34] He's got to be.
[55:34] He's the one that we're viewing it once it's implemented.
[55:37] Now, I have a communications question.
[55:39] Can you get a button or something or widget or something on our website that points to your
[55:44] South old zoning update project website so that they, it just reroutes, you know, something
[55:49] because it's an idea, you know, because I think I was just looking.
[55:52] We have the the CHAB page on our website is deactivated right now. It says sorry nothing here. Oh the housing advisory. Yeah, the CHAB one is just a font but the HAC is still active.
[56:05] So put those interesting.
[56:07] And then we also have the community development and housing page still to.
[56:11] And so I'm just thinking about where these things should live and if we're going to put a link.
[56:16] So there's a central, you've created this great central tool, how to float people to it,
[56:21] and maybe our goal to communications, maybe is to have the website as.gov and the
[56:26] spokes go out so if we could just have an easy way to start there and get to your site
[56:30] to be.
[56:30] Well, this actually leads me to, and it has to do with communication is what we're calling
[56:35] planning, because one of the things we were talking about was calling it, Department of Planning
[56:40] but then have two divisions in a division of planning, a division of housing, and if that's okay
[56:46] with everyone, it's excellent. We could change the website to make them look better. Absolutely,
[56:50] and then people can find it. Yeah, it's easy. We can put a link in the main... I think we should...
[56:59] Yes, we do this. Which is meant to be our business. Well, we're just on the town board on the first
[57:05] site, the quick links thing, or wherever, under the under when you first get to south hold down.
[57:10] Um, you know, this page somewhere, yeah, the home page, yeah, well, so what do we have?
[57:16] We have a lot of times we do that on quick links or news, but you're talking more permanent.
[57:22] Maybe we could put it.
[57:22] You mean like, oh, we can't, we can't because we don't have the, we don't have the, we don't have to.
[57:27] We don't have the, we don't have the, we don't have the, we don't have the, we're talking about the stuff.
[57:29] However, we could put it under here.
[57:31] I think it should be a major freedom here.
[57:34] Yeah.
[57:34] And then, and I think, well, where would it fit label?
[57:36] will seem to be somewhere that before the heart is set.
[57:39] That before the heart is set, what would it be called?
[57:42] So, may I say foul police.
[57:44] Sounds a little interesting.
[57:45] Okay.
[57:46] Yeah.
[57:46] I mean another possibility would be put it in other quick links, just at the very top of
[57:49] quick links and just have it always lit there.
[57:52] But I like...
[57:53] I think it's better than the main, but okay.
[57:56] So it's kind of...
[57:57] It gets very modern.
[57:59] It's better than the word Wolfair.
[57:59] But I think it's better than the main.
[58:02] I think it's better than the main.
[58:06] really well. And then, eight, that's what's happening.
[58:08] I think the way you describe it, you can get shut down, right?
[58:10] It doesn't have the HP can get handled. Yeah, I had a member updated those pages, but
[58:17] I don't know, maybe it's like a broken link or something somewhere else.
[58:21] So I'm going to check with Liam and, yeah, I thought that was on today.
[58:24] Right. Yeah, right.
[58:26] Missing length.
[58:29] I think, I think that's a really good conversation, which has had that
[58:34] because we've got so much input in the last few years on this housing topic and it keeping
[58:40] people out of the day, it's going to make the process work faster because people are
[58:45] going to be like, oh, that's what we've been talking about, that's what our comments
[58:49] have been. Now we can see it in black and white, these are the changes, we'd like to support
[58:53] it, and then we can move quicker, so most of the questions are in that area.
[58:58] I think to your point where things, so many things are getting done in the background, nobody
[59:02] sees it, they can actually go and see it. Oh, they're working on this, they're working on that.
[59:10] So public info session, okay, on the 29th and we'll have had two co-committees so we should
[59:15] have plenty to talk about. Yes, I think it's great. With a Zoom link to the public, yeah.
[59:21] Where are we going to have the right center? Meeting hall, meeting center, so you know.
[59:31] Okay,
[59:32] I was going to say that's what I was going to say. So, why are you doing this? It's really just this party.
[59:39] Right.
[59:41] That's what I was going to say.
[59:43] I just want to see what I would be supposed to do.
[59:45] I assume surprise party.
[59:48] I already have that on the calendar.
[59:49] Mr.
[59:50] Yeah.
[59:51] Yeah.
[59:52] Okay.
[59:54] I can do this.
[59:55] Okay.
[59:56] Okay, great idea.
[59:57] Good, I was just gonna ask for a minute.
[59:59] This is really good.
[1:00:05] Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. So, Alexa, you're up next, unless you want to wait. We can, we can wait until 10, 15, if you'd like. We'll have the solar project. Yeah. Let's take it. We have other members. Okay. The solar project. Yeah. And then we'll take a short break. Perfect. So the update on the solar project is we have a contract without.
[1:00:30] to the company that we're working with.
[1:00:33] We have a few minor issues that we're working out.
[1:00:36] We're very close.
[1:00:37] Everyone's still very interested in getting this on.
[1:00:40] So, the assistant town of Tunisia will give me
[1:00:42] as well to the other way to counsel for some average energy
[1:00:47] and they have vacation in the next couple of weeks,
[1:00:50] but we're hopeful in the next couple of weeks
[1:00:52] to get this back on track and agree with contract
[1:00:56] and they'll be back in the planning state.
[1:00:57] Can you just give us summary, not of the contract, but of the projects because, and then people will know the reason why I'm been pushing this and keeping it up.
[1:01:08] This has been going on for years and years.
[1:01:12] There was an RFP, you know, it's been, I don't know, almost 10 years now.
[1:01:17] Yeah, I thought it was, you know, it was on to it.
[1:01:20] So we hit a number of snags along the way.
[1:01:25] Essentially, we were able to add a provision
[1:01:30] where the town will be provided some energy credits
[1:01:33] for having solar on the cast landfill.
[1:01:39] It's gone through a lot of iterations,
[1:01:41] but we are hopeful that next few weeks to a month
[1:01:46] We'll have something moving forward back into the planning stages.
[1:01:50] And it's a multi-year contract with a lot of money coming into the town.
[1:01:56] That will help with, hopefully, for structure and other things.
[1:02:00] And it's a combination of revenue but then also discounted less of the city, right?
[1:02:06] So it's a yearly, I'm somewhere between, there's an escalator, but it's somewhere between
[1:02:11] mean $200,000 a year for the right to have those solar panels on the cap
[1:02:17] landfill. That's right. And then there is a discount on energy
[1:02:21] credits. So that will be a type of town, just about 12%.
[1:02:25] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that was the big thing that
[1:02:28] was electrifies and being right. And we, you know, we wanted to get that back
[1:02:32] to our own community instead of going outside of
[1:02:36] of South Pole. So that was a big thing. And and what how many years is the
[1:02:40] contract. 30 plus years. 30 plus years and when the infrastructure becomes
[1:02:45] obsolete, they pay to remove it. Yeah, it got a roll. There's really no expense to
[1:02:50] the town. It can come to the town. Well, and it's land that we tried to pursue this
[1:02:54] years ago. Anything else. And that should be used for this. Yeah, yeah. So big of
[1:02:59] power all over again. Yeah, right. You guys let the way. That was the model. Thank
[1:03:06] you. We can see it as a race. You know, like who gets who gets
[1:03:09] It's the first solo panel first.
[1:03:12] Oh boy.
[1:03:13] All right.
[1:03:14] We'll have a break until 10th and 15th.
[1:03:16] Thank you.
[1:03:19] It's good.
[1:03:24] Hey guys, welcome.
[1:03:25] Good morning.
[1:03:26] Good to know.
[1:03:27] Hello.
[1:03:28] Say hi.
[1:03:28] How have you had Alexa?
[1:03:30] Yeah, so our next item is from the EDC.
[1:03:36] So for we were joined by Chair Jack Nulling,
[1:03:38] and a co-chair at Ballroom in Berlin, which I met with as a member of a work model for coming.
[1:03:46] And we're discussing today the proposal for the EDCs, Southlotein Economic Development
[1:03:51] Annual Survey. So there has not been a survey done by the EDCs since 2021. So the whole idea
[1:03:59] that the EDCs have is to put that gain a little bit more insight into the small businesses
[1:04:06] This is a South Hotel, small businesses run as we know,
[1:04:09] run our economic engine here, so we want to make sure
[1:04:12] that we are providing help for small businesses,
[1:04:15] whether that means, you know, reimagining policies
[1:04:18] or providing more resources, and the idea
[1:04:22] of the survey came up to being very concrete
[1:04:25] for making data.
[1:04:27] So, Paul Jack, do you have any questions?
[1:04:30] No, I guess so, yeah.
[1:04:31] I understand you will have that copy of the survey
[1:04:34] and I'll continue to look at it.
[1:04:36] So I'd love to entertain some questions regarding it.
[1:04:39] I mean, our objective is to keep this thing short and sweet.
[1:04:42] And basically, I make it really somewhere,
[1:04:48] somebody will say, OK, it's going to take me 10 to 15 minutes to complete this thing.
[1:04:52] And advertise that by another couple of letters.
[1:04:56] People don't look at it.
[1:04:57] Oh, God, another survey.
[1:04:58] And I'm not going to do it.
[1:04:59] So let's, I don't believe we can get that book in that direction.
[1:05:04] What's the lesson?
[1:05:05] The whole scope is really to try and get people to fill out without oververting them
[1:05:13] and discussing everything else.
[1:05:15] We went to a lot of different questions, a lot of finessing it to make sure that the questions
[1:05:21] were accurate, not leading it anyway, but also making sure that it's easy for somebody to fill out.
[1:05:30] And you get some good information then.
[1:05:32] Exactly.
[1:05:32] And our intent, frankly, is do it every year.
[1:05:35] You know, maybe modify a question or two based on issues that come up or arise.
[1:05:41] Or, frankly, if there's some outstanding glaring things that come out of this survey, perhaps
[1:05:49] secondary follow-up survey for more detail on that particular topic or subject.
[1:05:53] You know, it should be noted by May that's a quite a lot of time energy has been put into putting together synergy summits for the past few years.
[1:06:03] So, the DCs don't have a fantastic job of that. Those synergy summits brought together the chambers, the libraries, any communities from leaders nonprofits, any community leader that you could think of along with business groups came together to discuss these issues.
[1:06:17] But I think what the survey does really well is it gives us a baseline of data that can
[1:06:23] be used for the next year in comparison.
[1:06:27] So we know what issues are needed to be solved immediately, which is going to be put
[1:06:30] on the back burner, and what has gotten better.
[1:06:32] And I like the community engagement too with the business community currently, because then
[1:06:38] you have people saying, okay, I'm filling this out, okay, sure, what does that mean?
[1:06:43] But then we're doing all this housing work.
[1:06:44] So maybe they'll spark an interest to make sure they read what we're doing with the housing
[1:06:50] work and being able to reach that. So that's what I like about it. It's also going to engage
[1:06:54] on people. The greatest challenge we're going to have is the reach. We don't want to just reach
[1:07:01] out to the chambers of commerce, you know, or at Martin or the maritime industry, but the plumbers,
[1:07:09] the contractor. It should be maybe a category of trades landscaping on your, have you discussed that?
[1:07:19] Well, yeah, we discussed we had a list very long as we shortened it, that is one possibly, but
[1:07:24] but there's a lot of different trades in that regard, so I want to make sure we make it easy for some
[1:07:30] of these little stuffy out on there. We don't hit the mark on this service. And we're going to
[1:07:40] pull from even licensing, licensing from self-cantic and super-versa,
[1:07:48] so visit the former plumbers of the East End, home improvement contractors.
[1:07:53] Everyone's got a home improvement or a plumbing or electrical license,
[1:07:56] and Suffolk County will pull out self-cultated.
[1:07:58] It seems to me it's getting a basis. It's a story.
[1:08:01] Yeah, so you can use that for every time.
[1:08:02] You definitely want to reach as many businesses.
[1:08:05] It's a good news.
[1:08:06] Send this to a low-down bar of irritants.
[1:08:08] Yes, it's on the list.
[1:08:09] Yeah. A secondary objective from this is to get a combined, a lot of different sensors
[1:08:16] that we get as a result of this survey, because people may use and queue our codes. We're
[1:08:21] going to be leveraging going out and walking around. And so if we can get a consolidated
[1:08:26] database of businesses in this town, it would be very helpful. Yeah. I know I'm trying to find
[1:08:31] somebody to do some paving work. Well, it's panning back. You can't. You get three items if you do it
[1:08:36] a Google search, and I'd like to be able to go to the town's website and say, give me somebody
[1:08:42] that does this, whatever business it is. And I think we've got every great thing on the
[1:08:46] town database as well. So that's a secondary objective of this thing, right? I'd like to see a few more
[1:08:51] categories in the list without making it unwieldy so that people feel more included instead of checking
[1:08:58] always other as being they are. I think that you know some people might you know
[1:09:05] feel a little left out in that I mean things like communications, nonprofit
[1:09:11] organizations and you know some of the bigger categories that that the
[1:09:16] comprehensive plan outlined as being what the businesses in the town of
[1:09:20] South old are instead of using just the generic few categories so I'd be nice if we
[1:09:27] could do something with that. We get it. We get it. We get it. I think that's a great idea.
[1:09:32] Aligning it with the comp plan is, is, is, is, is, particularly. That's actually a little
[1:09:36] ball. Yeah, exactly. But just to the point about the categories, I mean, just looking at this
[1:09:39] purely because I, you know, put on the fish pile and half per second, all we have are, are the trades
[1:09:44] in landscaping and nonprofits. So everything would be other on this list. So just, to the point
[1:09:49] about inclusiveness, you know, just sort of trying to, and I think the nonprofit is such a huge point
[1:09:53] to kind of daylight and make that transparent.
[1:09:56] It's such important people who are working
[1:09:57] and leading these institutions are, you know,
[1:10:00] year-round families who are living here
[1:10:01] are a part of the community.
[1:10:02] And hiring people.
[1:10:03] And hiring people and getting them to do it.
[1:10:04] They have a lot of payroll.
[1:10:06] They're businesses, yeah.
[1:10:07] So, yeah, no question about that.
[1:10:09] And we do want to have this survey available.
[1:10:12] It's Spanish as well.
[1:10:13] Awesome.
[1:10:14] So, we get everyone, there's a lot of,
[1:10:16] a lot of new growing business out here
[1:10:18] with a span of names on their trucks,
[1:10:20] to vent goals and they're part of this community as well and opening businesses want to make sure
[1:10:26] we reach out to them. It should be noted too that Paul drafted this survey, he did still using
[1:10:32] the comp plan at the base, so this is all based on that. Yeah, I know this is not planned, it's
[1:10:37] still fairly clear. It is relevant. And I think you had a question about. Number six. Yes.
[1:10:44] going to add a category of seasonality of work demand because there's a lot of demand
[1:10:50] for labor in the summer and into the fall and then all of a sudden it drops off and
[1:10:55] I know that's a big challenge for a lot of people that are seasonal pithuses because
[1:10:59] several is competing. Finding seasonal employees might add people in that season with my
[1:11:07] season. Yeah. And then I know you had a question also about number 11. Yes.
[1:11:13] And I wanted to refer back to that.
[1:11:15] So a business incubator, entrepreneurship center,
[1:11:18] or even a program that doesn't necessarily
[1:11:21] have a physical location is in the comp plan
[1:11:24] under objective 1.4.
[1:11:26] So it is something that the EDC is also considering
[1:11:29] as a goal being that it is in the comp plan
[1:11:31] of what the EDC is doing.
[1:11:33] Yeah, we're doing what it does with thoughts about that,
[1:11:36] that's all of us.
[1:11:38] This is great.
[1:11:39] It's really good work.
[1:11:41] Yeah, and, you know, we included a question about the corpules, the report slowly, so we can extrapolate out there, some else we can share with them.
[1:11:49] Oh, yeah, they're part of the town and those businesses don't operate in the village.
[1:11:54] Exactly.
[1:11:54] They operate everywhere.
[1:11:55] Yeah.
[1:11:56] It is, I think the differentiation is also important, though, given that they had their own zoning.
[1:12:01] Yes.
[1:12:01] Yeah.
[1:12:02] Yeah.
[1:12:04] Great.
[1:12:05] Thank you.
[1:12:06] So yeah, we'll modify a few of the questions.
[1:12:10] And then how are you getting it out in what communication forms?
[1:12:14] Well, that's a great question.
[1:12:15] I mean, I think we really want to rely on the town's website for the survey
[1:12:20] just like your cell phone survey.
[1:12:23] Yeah.
[1:12:23] So I mean, as a group, through the town and through all the other organizations
[1:12:29] need to market the hell out of it.
[1:12:32] to reach out to every group, create a couple of QR codes and take it right to the site stuff.
[1:12:39] We have some lists already from the Chambers, but we really need to really get it.
[1:12:45] And actually, what I was going to write is the QR code.
[1:12:47] Yeah, supermodel.
[1:12:48] Yeah, yeah, yeah.
[1:12:50] I think we want to try to range in an interview with some times, and not for a son.
[1:12:57] Yeah, there is a whole bunch of reviews.
[1:12:59] So again, there was a whole strategy that was actually drafted up.
[1:13:03] It wasn't unfortunately included in this.
[1:13:05] But there's a strategy document includes a formula for sample size calculations.
[1:13:10] It includes dissemination strategies, business groups, websites, social media, physical locations,
[1:13:16] media, interviews, things like that.
[1:13:19] I think we do a very documented stress.
[1:13:21] I can send that around.
[1:13:22] And what's your teleboard?
[1:13:24] That's a good question.
[1:13:27] We had our last meeting, we said, let's get this thing out before this meeting, I'll get
[1:13:33] it to you long before this meeting, you have to work on it, and best late plans sometimes
[1:13:38] just don't get done.
[1:13:39] But now we're ready to go with this thing and we're ready to roll it so as we can, and
[1:13:43] you know, I know the deadline for submission so that you say, okay, it's very close.
[1:13:50] I would say, into end of this month, we'd get it out.
[1:13:53] to start it. And then the idea was to have it open for about eight weeks.
[1:13:57] If we need to extend it to get the correct sample size, then we will.
[1:14:01] But I think eight weeks, because all is a busy time for some businesses as well.
[1:14:05] It is, but we also wanted to catch the end of the season.
[1:14:09] That's why you need to get the end of it.
[1:14:12] When the obstacles are fresh in your mind, because you're still trying to deal with all of them.
[1:14:17] It's a good time to get people to articulate specifically
[1:14:20] you know, what are one or two things that would change that would make next season kind of for you.
[1:14:25] So this point about season and seasonality.
[1:14:28] I mean, is there also a way of framing this so that you're capturing some businesses that seasons are high season is different?
[1:14:34] You know, I mean, there could be a way of maybe just a little bit more fine tuning,
[1:14:41] what seasonal means in terms of trying to capture the data of which peak, you know,
[1:14:46] more in shoulder seasons or winter in which we are peaking in the summer. Just because
[1:14:50] of being agricultural and all these different things are all these different rhythms
[1:14:53] of play. And if you are trying to capture the maximum amount of data that might be happening
[1:14:58] in the second phase.
[1:14:58] Well, I think the good
[1:15:00] This is the way we structure this. If we put this all this into a database, we can then extrapolate
[1:15:08] up by industry or by township fishes on. Seas down is going to be different than, you know,
[1:15:15] we can extrapolate out and track that as well.
[1:15:20] I mean, I guess the question be, how would
[1:15:22] you characterize your operations seasonal only? I mean, could there be a way of advocating
[1:15:26] not to, you know, summer, you know, kind of like, date made to the kind of made to, you can have an open
[1:15:34] lot of as well. Yeah, what's your status as a policy? Yeah, exactly. Explain your
[1:15:37] high season, like your dates of your season. Yeah. One month. That might be a little interesting
[1:15:45] pattern. Yeah. It's also tricky because there are so many businesses that essentially operate
[1:15:50] two businesses in one business, right? So in the summer, you're you're a nursery and in the winter,
[1:15:55] you have a simpler, right? And that's what you have, is that's what you need to do, right?
[1:15:59] To employ you around. So that's where you get a little bit more troops.
[1:16:03] That's what happens if you get to that point where you have to employ you around that,
[1:16:08] keep good employees, then you have, develop all the businesses that keep the good employees.
[1:16:12] Right, yeah. The Moliascans aren't seasonal anymore, they're year-round.
[1:16:16] Right. Sorry.
[1:16:18] Yeah.
[1:16:19] Okay, so there's... Oh, sorry.
[1:16:20] No, I'm sorry. I just wanted to go over the changes.
[1:16:22] So we have the primary industry sector adding just a couple more not so much to make it
[1:16:27] onerous for trades, construction, non-problems.
[1:16:30] George had a good list of that.
[1:16:32] We'll go through the rest of those.
[1:16:33] I got in the comp plan in the B section with all the charts, even though it's 10 years old,
[1:16:40] it's a very good outline of what our businesses were 10 years ago by proportion and what
[1:16:47] I think it was page 8, 7 or something.
[1:16:51] Business world, that's like under here to go.
[1:16:54] But there's something that we definitely can pass through.
[1:16:57] So without getting too crazy for that guy.
[1:17:00] Okay.
[1:17:00] And then adding it under maybe seasonal only, adding months.
[1:17:04] Yeah.
[1:17:05] High season or whatever.
[1:17:08] Time frame.
[1:17:09] Yeah.
[1:17:10] Months.
[1:17:11] And then number seven.
[1:17:18] Yeah.
[1:17:22] That was it.
[1:17:23] Yeah.
[1:17:23] I think that was it.
[1:17:24] Any other changes?
[1:17:25] Are we in some media sites?
[1:17:26] No.
[1:17:26] That was great.
[1:17:28] And then you made it.
[1:17:30] So it's workable.
[1:17:32] You're busy.
[1:17:33] You can take a look at this and say, yeah, I can fill this out.
[1:17:36] Pretty much.
[1:17:36] I can use it.
[1:17:37] Click.
[1:17:37] Yeah.
[1:17:38] Get through most of the questions.
[1:17:39] Yeah.
[1:17:40] There's various affiliates on the other lines.
[1:17:41] Yeah.
[1:17:43] Try to make these efficient as possible.
[1:17:44] It's looking what we need out.
[1:17:45] And what about paper form, because some people still like paper form, where can they
[1:17:51] receive that?
[1:17:52] Have some available at the clerk's office, just like we did at the communications.
[1:17:55] I mean, a wide version.
[1:17:57] Yeah.
[1:17:57] Yeah.
[1:17:57] Right.
[1:17:58] Yeah.
[1:17:59] Yeah.
[1:18:00] Yeah.
[1:18:02] They can print their own.
[1:18:03] Yeah.
[1:18:03] Yeah.
[1:18:04] They can print their own.
[1:18:04] Yeah.
[1:18:04] They can print their own.
[1:18:05] Yeah, and then I mean the goal really hopefully is you know, if we do this I really really stuff you know get trends
[1:18:11] You know really
[1:18:13] To be more pretty. Yeah, yeah, and I like the mk4 or to be able to say oh, I should be following bad, right?
[1:18:21] Absolutely
[1:18:23] I'm just saying thank you to the volunteers. So you're all individually, you know business people and you have business active in your smart guys
[1:18:31] So I just thank you for adding that collectively for the success
[1:18:35] all of South old town business. You don't have to do that, but your
[1:18:38] volunteer to make things better. That's essential for the our
[1:18:41] economy, it's essential for coding up all the things that we're
[1:18:44] working on in the town. This is essential knowledge that we're
[1:18:47] trying to achieve and I appreciate that you guys are at the center
[1:18:49] of it. So if we don't get paid. No, it's volunteer. You sign up
[1:18:52] back. You know, it was a commercial. Thank you, thank you, thank
[1:18:56] you. I appreciate it. Thank you. Thanks.
[1:19:01] Well, I'll find big edits tonight.
[1:19:06] Okay.
[1:19:07] I'll email you.
[1:19:10] I'll send it to Rio.
[1:19:11] It's, it's, it's, it's a full meal.
[1:19:12] I don't know if you remember our, if I remembered about all the tension dollars, I heard
[1:19:16] tell you.
[1:19:17] Oh, so I wanted to go back to the market and report.
[1:19:19] I was, I was going to send it.
[1:19:21] You can't heat anger to the public.
[1:19:22] You have to get something somewhere come viral because we used these regard, you can
[1:19:25] be, well, it's over-bite in the house and it's good to have it.
[1:19:28] I would.
[1:19:32] Yeah, but it's also hard, and it's always been the case, such as housing, if you live far
[1:19:44] away and you've got a good job opportunity to travel for it, because you don't want
[1:19:48] to fully eat that, so you don't want to fully eat that.
[1:19:51] So even if it's housing, here, you still get one, but it's sort of provides the
[1:19:56] better side. So it wouldn't be a board meeting in 2026 if we didn't discuss the public safety
[1:20:04] committee's working rooms.
[1:20:12] It's a good board to work with. I can't remember. It's a very good board.
[1:20:18] did we end up with a copy of that in the packet? Yes, it's behind the adopted resolution for the last
[1:20:24] meeting. Hello.
[1:20:29] And you have some good ideas about what the focus on.
[1:20:35] And people will remember what they said. Well, I mean, I mean, I think that's okay.
[1:20:42] Okay, well, let me see what you know. Let's see. Yeah, yeah, let's fill up any
[1:20:46] answers. I think I just had, well, we just talked through it, and then we could both
[1:20:52] list first.
[1:20:56] So this was the resolution, the draft resolution we didn't get to last
[1:20:58] time because we were very focused on procedural peaks. And it builds totally on the procedures
[1:21:08] one and is referenced putting the language. So it's already referenced in that previous
[1:21:15] resolution and the where as thanking the task force that all this work going is
[1:21:21] important to happen. So we're going to include it.
[1:21:34] Do we want to do the same thing
[1:21:35] where we read it out loud again?
[1:21:38] Oh go right ahead.
[1:21:39] Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about.
[1:21:41] I can't.
[1:21:41] I can't.
[1:21:42] I can't.
[1:21:42] I can't.
[1:21:43] Yay.
[1:21:43] Yeah.
[1:21:43] Okay, where is by resolution 2026-167 adopted federal attempt 2026, the town board, the town
[1:21:51] of Southport established a public safety task force whose purpose was to examine the health
[1:21:56] safety and welfare concerns associated with federal immigration policy and to examine
[1:22:01] all proposed federal, state, and local legislation for the purpose of advising the town board.
[1:22:07] Any issues there?
[1:22:10] No?
[1:22:10] No.
[1:22:11] Very good.
[1:22:11] Whereas the town board has determined that the public safety task force has completed the tasks outlined in the framework and the towns continued focus on public safety is best served by establishing a standing standing public safety committee charged with communication education and coordination duties or need coordinating coordination of duties.
[1:22:34] So, is this clear enough to say that the task force is an ending, but where is it sent?
[1:22:39] We're sending a different committee with it, so that's not a task.
[1:22:44] The man is saying task force is now called as no, it says that the purpose is solved.
[1:22:50] Oh, okay.
[1:22:50] Sorry.
[1:22:51] Can we take coordination on duties?
[1:22:54] I think so.
[1:22:55] Yeah.
[1:22:57] Can we move on?
[1:22:58] Yes.
[1:22:59] Whereas, the members of the public safety task force have served the talent with distinction
[1:23:05] volunteering their time, expertise, and experience, and expertise, and the town board wishes
[1:23:10] to express its sincere gratitude to each of them for their dedicated service, now therefore
[1:23:15] it be a result.
[1:23:16] But I just, sorry, can we go back to the previous one?
[1:23:19] Yeah.
[1:23:19] I think every word modifies duties, communication duties, education duties, coordination duties.
[1:23:25] Yeah.
[1:23:25] So I don't think it is of apologies.
[1:23:28] No, it's okay, but I, and I think it's okay to be ION instead of coordinating.
[1:23:33] I think it's coordination.
[1:23:34] Yeah, I think it's okay. Okay.
[1:23:39] Okay. Recognize their time.
[1:23:42] Therefore, we have resolved that the work of the Public Safety Task Force is hereby included.
[1:23:47] Yes.
[1:23:48] And the Public Safety Task Force established by Resolution 2026-167 is hereby dissolved.
[1:23:56] Done. Okay.
[1:23:56] and be a further resolve that the town board hereby establishes a public safety committee
[1:24:01] to meet at least quarterly and more often as needed openly and in accordance with the
[1:24:07] open meetings law and the town standard committee rules and regulations to serve a term of
[1:24:12] one year renewable by the town board as its annual organizational meeting and to consist
[1:24:17] of the following members.
[1:24:19] Then, how do you feel about that?
[1:24:21] I think that was what we intended to add, but I just want to make sure, yeah, that's what that's what I'm saying.
[1:24:29] Okay, good.
[1:24:30] I feel the same.
[1:24:30] I didn't know if we were taking it out.
[1:24:32] Yeah.
[1:24:34] Okay, good.
[1:24:34] As far as drilling, didn't have lines.
[1:24:36] Yeah.
[1:24:36] I mean, what is to be very clear that there would be agendas?
[1:24:40] There would be minutes.
[1:24:41] I think it was then rewritten.
[1:24:42] I have it's different.
[1:24:44] Two.
[1:24:44] It's worded.
[1:24:45] Do you want a little different word?
[1:24:49] What's the part that's tripping you up?
[1:24:51] I don't think anything's tripping anyone up.
[1:24:53] but I just wanted to make sure that it's
[1:24:54] worded the way.
[1:24:55] Yes, I think it is.
[1:24:56] What's it?
[1:24:57] Please.
[1:24:58] All right.
[1:24:58] So as listed, two members of the
[1:25:00] anti-biased task force, two members of the
[1:25:02] police advisory committee, two members of the
[1:25:05] police department, including the school resource
[1:25:06] officer, one community liaison Spanish speaking, one
[1:25:10] representative of the school district, a school
[1:25:13] district, one village of report elected official, one
[1:25:18] community business leader, one representative of
[1:25:20] the houses of worship within the town of South
[1:25:22] and two town board liaisons, one from Antibias Task Force and one from the police advisory committee.
[1:25:29] I have a lot of people.
[1:25:31] It's a lot of people, they're not going to meet that often.
[1:25:34] I mean, they're going to meet in a very specific way.
[1:25:39] I want to go back up to Solve Public Safety Task Force is concluded.
[1:25:47] Do we need a language in there indicating that all documents produced will be archived under the new committee?
[1:25:58] I just want to be sure that all the work that was done and all those documents we posted on our quick links get archived properly under the new committee.
[1:26:11] I don't know if it needs to be said either, you had a good point in about one point about how it's really important that the members of these different, that this be seen as a cross committee committee, so that the individuals who are representing advice are not bringing their personal kind of place in the world, but they're bringing their committee's mission into the committee.
[1:26:38] And I don't know how that wording would change, but so that if I were a member of the
[1:26:43] enterprise task force, I wanted to be on this new, be the representative, that it's clear
[1:26:49] that your job is to go back to the committee you're representing.
[1:26:53] Without you.
[1:26:54] It's almost obvious.
[1:26:55] And bring that communication back and forth with the lens of, nice, that committee.
[1:27:02] I mean, we can put the news on there.
[1:27:04] Yeah.
[1:27:04] Yeah.
[1:27:04] No, it's not a losing sound.
[1:27:05] but it's a rep, is this, you're representing this stakeholder group, so maybe it's just
[1:27:12] the word representing.
[1:27:13] Two members to represent.
[1:27:14] Two represent.
[1:27:15] That's good.
[1:27:16] Yeah, I like that.
[1:27:17] Two represent the anti-vices.
[1:27:19] That's the first language needed to help clarify that.
[1:27:23] We have one other resolution, they added to it on the second page.
[1:27:26] And the same thing, obviously, go all the way down.
[1:27:29] And through other two.
[1:27:30] Do we need, and I'm always conscious of staff time.
[1:27:34] We need two members from the police department.
[1:27:37] Well, one would be the resource officer, and one would probably be on the higher ranking
[1:27:43] officer.
[1:27:43] Do we need a designated person?
[1:27:45] Do we need them or do they want to be invited in?
[1:27:49] I think they're crucial to this conversation, yeah, absolutely.
[1:27:52] Occasionally, because chief is on several committees, he will send, if he doesn't want in his place,
[1:27:58] if he can't be there.
[1:28:00] This leads it up to him.
[1:28:01] And yeah, that was another question whether or not it should always be the same person from the committee or as it could it be a rotating person from the committee.
[1:28:09] It's going to be up to that.
[1:28:11] That's going to be a yearly thing.
[1:28:13] So no, I just met within a given year.
[1:28:16] It would always be the same.
[1:28:17] It has to be the same question.
[1:28:19] Just putting that out there.
[1:28:20] I don't know.
[1:28:21] I'm not either of these two committees.
[1:28:23] So I don't know what you think would be preference.
[1:28:26] I know.
[1:28:27] So, Enterprise Task Force is a large committee.
[1:28:30] Well, the advisory is smaller.
[1:28:32] And I think it would be also, I think to Kate's point, it also depends on what the subject
[1:28:39] of the agenda of that particular meeting is because, so I could say that, you know, we
[1:28:46] have different various kinds of experience on the police advisory, and one subject, one member
[1:28:52] might have more experience than the other, so we'll send that one this time.
[1:28:55] At the next time, it will be the other member.
[1:28:57] So how, just to make that, how does that get clarified?
[1:29:00] Maybe that's not in a resolution.
[1:29:01] Maybe there's some other like mention of the committee later.
[1:29:05] So there may be under the committee description.
[1:29:08] Somewhere it needs to be clear so that the chair knows that these are the scheduled meetings.
[1:29:15] Who was going to go?
[1:29:16] These are the topics.
[1:29:17] Who's going to represent us?
[1:29:19] Well, I think then the other is the flexibility because if there is an
[1:29:25] outside agency event that we then trigger the procedure, it's going to really be, and
[1:29:32] now they're going to meet. It's not on the calendar, so somebody, if it's flexible,
[1:29:38] maybe that person can't go at that time because they're working, like it's someone else.
[1:29:41] I think, I think maybe that comes, I think that particular organization of it could rest
[1:29:48] on the two liaisons from the town board, say, hey, this is the subject. This is what we want you to do.
[1:29:57] Tell us your two members.
[1:30:00] Let's come up with some dates. And then within two weeks, we get those, get it all together. I think that's the easiest way, because we don't know what the subject is going to be or the incident is going to be. So that then doesn't need to be in the resolution. We just need to note it so that when we have our first organizational meeting with this code, that we can, well, what are the last resolution, say, on this? Well, let's get through this. I also want to go back briefly. What determines the quarterly designation? Instead of asking it. We thought they should at least need
[1:30:29] need quarterly, to be sure we're working on ongoing, you know, attending to communication
[1:30:35] and education, because some of the recommendations that came out of the task force are very
[1:30:42] useful.
[1:30:42] I'll do sure.
[1:30:43] Yeah.
[1:30:43] And they might, you know, there might be one time a year, that's better than another, you
[1:30:48] know, semi of the synergy, like the synergy meetings, but give that, give it a little more.
[1:30:53] I'm just wondering if in the beginning, those meetings were just by nature going to be more
[1:30:57] frequent.
[1:30:57] but it's three years before we need to meet quarterly.
[1:31:01] Well, we can get rid of this gets redone every year.
[1:31:03] Okay, yeah, I just want to make sure that I do.
[1:31:06] Yeah, that's why we did publicly.
[1:31:07] Because that's why we did a resolution law.
[1:31:10] Yep, so that we could be responsive
[1:31:11] to what's happening in the room.
[1:31:13] And there might not,
[1:31:14] nothing, there might be not be any incidents
[1:31:16] between the quarterly meetings,
[1:31:18] but to answer point, we can still say,
[1:31:20] okay, how's our outreach, how's our education?
[1:31:22] Do we have a new group of people in town
[1:31:24] that don't know what we're doing?
[1:31:25] some topic might be coming up at police advisory about how the new police
[1:31:30] yeah schedules going like we're just going to report out on that or we're
[1:31:33] going to talk about the trainings for our staff are getting things that are
[1:31:37] coming up and biased that might be important to really thank you so I'm going
[1:31:44] to move on to the next one I have a question I do too go ahead no you go I know
[1:31:49] of these don't want to issue someone.
[1:31:52] By community liaison here, do you mean one in the same
[1:31:56] the community maybe to be known as community engagement?
[1:31:59] Is that the same person?
[1:32:01] Or is it just, is it or is that a generic community liaison?
[1:32:04] I mean, that is the person is whoever,
[1:32:06] that position is currently not filled.
[1:32:08] Okay, that's a current title.
[1:32:10] This one to make sure.
[1:32:11] Yeah, that wasn't clear.
[1:32:12] That's a town employee.
[1:32:13] Yeah, so do you maybe need to note that?
[1:32:16] Yeah.
[1:32:17] staff.
[1:32:23] We didn't put the government liaison as part of this. My thought was that the community
[1:32:29] means on Spanish speaking with the, you know, you know, we're like, you know, I'm sitting
[1:32:34] at home, so one of the patients must commit, yeah, as opposed to on another person.
[1:32:39] Representative school district. And they could send to what the superintendent's the center they
[1:32:45] like, you know, one, we struck the, the, said, okay, so we don't know what is the school
[1:32:52] district, which one?
[1:32:53] Okay.
[1:32:54] It's happened.
[1:32:54] Representative on.
[1:32:56] Remort, elected official.
[1:32:57] Full districts.
[1:32:59] And other, they're responsible, the school districts, they're just having to ask themselves
[1:33:04] something.
[1:33:05] Well, they, they meet regularly, and you may as a decent officer, keep the, and add an
[1:33:09] ass.
[1:33:09] They have systems for it.
[1:33:19] We don't have to be the same person and the same with the next two, we'll just do some
[1:33:28] outreach and say who would be interested in serving.
[1:33:31] Yeah.
[1:33:31] Okay.
[1:33:33] Well, that's great.
[1:33:37] Okay.
[1:33:40] All right.
[1:33:40] is to be clear on all these positions back here.
[1:33:43] You know, originally in a meeting brought up,
[1:33:45] the idea of having someone from food security team on here,
[1:33:50] is that, are we okay with, I mean, I'm not saying
[1:33:53] getting a bigger, I'm just saying like that.
[1:33:55] That's a federal thing with the food safety act?
[1:33:58] No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
[1:33:59] this is just a sort of a group we call people
[1:34:01] when people were using staff at night.
[1:34:03] I think back at the top of the phone,
[1:34:05] if they're meeting that they can bring you out.
[1:34:07] Your former lenses, this is the stuff.
[1:34:09] Oh, it's, it's thinking of a regulation because you have your communities on
[1:34:14] Spanish speaking and that person would overlap those two. And so how would we,
[1:34:18] how would we identify who, if that's a, has a worship with that be?
[1:34:22] We would reach out to that council and say, so there's a lot more on the deal.
[1:34:26] Okay, great, great. This is what we're doing. Right. Do you have someone?
[1:34:29] Okay. But that you did just make me one from about
[1:34:37] someone from cast on the task force?
[1:34:40] No. No. Okay. I think I think they could include it as needed. I don't think that's important. I think this group can say, hey, the topic today is is we need security is and then they can invite them. But I think it's big enough. Yeah. And it's related. Otherwise, I think so. Otherwise.
[1:34:57] And it's triggered by that the whole report from the task force, which really was focused on
[1:35:02] after an event and communication. So the other things are also kind of happened, but they're not
[1:35:07] the main. Yeah, do it. Do we have the next one? Thank you.
[1:35:15] For the results, Public Safety Committee, acting as the direction of the town board, is charged with
[1:35:21] communication, education, and coordination duties,
[1:35:24] regarding the public safety response procedures,
[1:35:27] including working with the police department
[1:35:28] to develop educational materials explaining those procedures.
[1:35:32] What residents can expect from the department
[1:35:34] during outside agency operations,
[1:35:37] and how to report incidents through 911
[1:35:40] or police headquarters.
[1:35:42] The public safety committee shall also coordinate
[1:35:44] with the communications committee
[1:35:46] to disseminate those materials across a range of channels
[1:35:49] With attention to language accessibility, including communicating the non-sensitive details of the police commissioner's periodic reviews of the public safety response, and be a further resolved with this decision, shall take it back to me.
[1:36:02] Maybe a public safety response, response procedures.
[1:36:07] Because that's what we're going to be.
[1:36:09] Yeah, I think that's missing a word there.
[1:36:14] I don't know if we need more incidents.
[1:36:17] I would be uncertain, but I would say have two make reports.
[1:36:22] In other words, it's not just about, I think there's an outside agency in my neighborhood.
[1:36:28] What do I do?
[1:36:30] It's also making sure that community understands what's 9-1-1, what's call headquarters.
[1:36:36] Oh, yeah.
[1:36:37] You know generalizing. Yeah, I think it because it could be any public safety issue. Yeah, yeah, and I'm concerned with the words coordination of duties because
[1:36:47] What does that mean? We know what there's no loss. There's no
[1:36:50] Is it we how about just communications education and
[1:37:03] coordination and take it out. Yeah, let's take it out. It's also a more safe and educational
[1:37:11] education stand. I think one of the agencies says it later on. That's smart. Yeah, take it off.
[1:37:17] Because, you know, it's kind of, it's kind of tells, it kind of says, oh, they're going to
[1:37:20] coordinate the duties of the police. Yeah, that's how I do it. That's how I do it. Yeah,
[1:37:26] right. It's confusing. I think, I think sometimes when you're reading it, you're thinking about
[1:37:31] the procedure and coordination of duties and sometimes we're thinking public safety big umbrella.
[1:37:37] So I think taking it out is better. You've got to read it as if somebody from the public
[1:37:40] so I know the street we did it. So that's so that's why I thought we're going to tell the police
[1:37:44] what to do. That's now it hits me. It could sound like that. Yeah. That's why that word is it's
[1:37:48] constantly too. Right. What does that mean? So how do we how do we edit that? How do we get
[1:37:53] boardings? No, that one definitely. But how do we get rid of it? How do we make a report?
[1:37:58] Just take out and it's out of report for, oh no, please headquarter, please headquarter.
[1:38:02] Yeah, because we want to make sure that people, I think, danceport call on anything they
[1:38:08] think they should call.
[1:38:09] Yeah, we don't want the other things that came up out of the task force was a concern that
[1:38:14] there might be people in the community who are not calling 911 out of some other fears.
[1:38:20] So that, that was kind of the message behind that, like, we're going to, we, self-okers are
[1:38:26] Okay, it called when you didn't.
[1:38:27] So does that stand together?
[1:38:29] How to report through 911 or how to report through
[1:38:31] police had quite a clear set makes sense to someone?
[1:38:37] All right.
[1:38:38] So this
[1:38:43] could go on tonight.
[1:38:44] If people's great.
[1:38:45] Or not.
[1:38:46] So here or now, so just not resolution necessarily based,
[1:38:51] but my other question was about who is the chair?
[1:39:02] Yeah, and how agenda set minutes tap. So we're we're
[1:39:08] noticed finding a room. So we're going with that.
[1:39:12] Scheduling a room should not be the hard part to committee.
[1:39:17] As far as where the chair is, I think they should be,
[1:39:22] I think that the tab or liaison should be co-chairs.
[1:39:26] I think I know that's unusual. We're usually liaison,
[1:39:29] But I think because this is part of a receivable communication chain something happens it should be and we're giving them the specific direction from the town board
[1:39:40] So I think the chairs need to make sure those specific directions
[1:39:43] It doesn't become a bigger and doesn't become
[1:39:49] They can still be not voting. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah, I'm not even sure what we they be voting on but
[1:39:56] but it could be both recommendations.
[1:39:59] It's all right.
[1:40:00] For as minutes ago, and we're going through this,
[1:40:03] and Dennis has been a big help.
[1:40:05] We're going through this one,
[1:40:06] and the budget season, again,
[1:40:07] I lighted the reality that every department
[1:40:11] has minutes differently,
[1:40:12] and that we're trying to coordinate that as part of,
[1:40:16] of course, of course saving measure,
[1:40:17] but also an efficiency measure
[1:40:19] how we have to legally do this with minutes,
[1:40:23] and it includes the committees.
[1:40:25] And so we will sort out in another month how minutes have to be done legally and reported
[1:40:35] and stored by the committees in a most efficient manner.
[1:40:39] Are we talking about committees or also like other boards?
[1:40:43] Oh, all the other boards.
[1:40:44] That's what brought this up because there is a high cost involved.
[1:40:47] They're very different.
[1:40:48] But the committee is legal ramifications with those two consequences.
[1:40:51] And working with Ben, we are in the middle of that,
[1:40:55] and working with Dennis, we're in the middle of that.
[1:40:57] Because, you know, this planning board,
[1:40:59] CBA, trustees, they should be consistent
[1:41:03] when it's taking a story operation.
[1:41:06] But even for volunteer committees,
[1:41:08] like I have many volunteer committees
[1:41:09] that you not have secretaries at the moment.
[1:41:12] And so we end up dumb.
[1:41:14] No, because that's, and that's part of the budget cycle
[1:41:17] is how much, how much,
[1:41:19] How many minutes do we need to, there's volunteers who need to generate it?
[1:41:23] Right.
[1:41:24] So I think some guidance on that would be very well.
[1:41:25] That would be a nice revisit to the handbook because we kept that very old thing because
[1:41:29] everyone had their own way and we wanted to help people how to do it.
[1:41:33] And that's what the problem is.
[1:41:35] And it's one of the many, especially the volunteer chairs who are putting in time beyond their
[1:41:39] own lives to get these six stones.
[1:41:41] Yeah.
[1:41:45] Orphically we can resolve that, but-
[1:41:47] So we're agreeing that this is the language that's going to go as the right things for.
[1:41:50] And we're agreeing that should it be in that resolution that a town forward liaison
[1:41:55] is doing so chairs.
[1:41:56] So, yes.
[1:41:57] Should the last part of that section just say from the police advisory committee shall serve
[1:42:02] as co-chair or something else?
[1:42:04] Yeah.
[1:42:04] I like that.
[1:42:06] So we didn't answer the question about agenda minutes and noticing, because that's up
[1:42:12] to the center.
[1:42:13] That's have to be in the resolution.
[1:42:14] I know, but the notice thing is in there.
[1:42:16] All the meetings.
[1:42:17] Right.
[1:42:17] We're seeing we have this has to internally let's not lose how that gets done.
[1:42:22] It was doing it.
[1:42:24] Right.
[1:42:24] I'm just saying that in the resolution, we're saying we're going to conform to open being
[1:42:28] clause so that that is holding this to the higher standard of making everything public.
[1:42:34] It's a recording.
[1:42:35] I guess that when Tim Wardley is on school, use their secretary.
[1:42:39] So.
[1:42:48] Well, you know what? We'll figure that out later, really.
[1:42:51] We're going to get a free play because you're standardized for committees.
[1:42:57] We do now. Yeah. Okay, so maybe right now we could see if that I would fit it. Yeah,
[1:43:01] because PAC doesn't meet monthly anymore because we don't have that much stuff.
[1:43:06] at least look at that exists for a command that's called decision-added.
[1:43:10] You don't have to hold hands now.
[1:43:13] I'm sure she's not very good at targeting.
[1:43:15] Oh, well, that's a point.
[1:43:16] Some of these have grown into their own sort of thing.
[1:43:19] And so I'm going to say to her,
[1:43:21] I'm sure that everyone's doing it the same way.
[1:43:24] And these are noticed properly,
[1:43:27] and we can use carry-ins.
[1:43:29] Yeah, she's good.
[1:43:30] Because she signed up to do this monthly,
[1:43:32] and we're not doing monthly.
[1:43:33] Well, then it's not mentioned any staff.
[1:43:36] Let's not dedicate staff to this yet.
[1:43:38] And I would like to dedicate staff to get it started.
[1:43:42] So we properly are known to be on the pack
[1:43:45] and doing secretary.
[1:43:46] The pack is going to handle the notice in the middle.
[1:43:48] No thing you should say to anyone at this year.
[1:43:51] Well, let's do the part of the process.
[1:43:53] Well, I say sorry, but to that end,
[1:43:56] what would be the resolution goes on tonight,
[1:43:59] then it sounds like there needs to be an organizational meeting
[1:44:01] to kind of work through some of these details.
[1:44:03] Well, now you have to advertise for members.
[1:44:06] So, is it advertising?
[1:44:08] Because right now we have very specific roles.
[1:44:11] So, each of these communities will send two people.
[1:44:14] Then is that reached to the other?
[1:44:15] All right, so since where there's a school member,
[1:44:17] like, it's not like a book.
[1:44:19] When do you want our first quarterly meeting before the end of the year?
[1:44:23] Or do we, I think that this is that organizational meeting?
[1:44:25] I think we should have.
[1:44:26] Because we've done a lot of work on this now
[1:44:28] I think that it's out in the public already and it's kind of, well, if we had it report,
[1:44:33] I think it reported next week. Right. I think this committee should exist. Yeah. I agree.
[1:44:37] And we could just get it up on the website with the description. We could move the documents over.
[1:44:42] Just like the framework in place. Yeah. The best thing to do, Al, might be for us to write a letter
[1:44:48] that would go to all of these groups. We're asking to send someone explaining what we're asking for.
[1:44:53] Yeah.
[1:44:54] When we come to the Schedule of Organizational Meeting, so they know what we're up for.
[1:44:58] Because we have a schedule that will be like-
[1:45:00] Well, I think it's been having officially talked to Antibias or Packard. And that's what my recent
[1:45:05] antivirus committee meeting, they've asked for that communication from the board. They knew that we're forming a committee. They're like, well, what are they going to ask us so? They just do your point all out. They're clearing clearly, but that's not what this is. I know, but I'm just saying that functions are even asked. Resolution here, what's our purpose at your next meeting will be helpful. I think we're ready to decide who's going to do these things.
[1:45:27] But the average has to be done to fix the business community and you say the IDC is going
[1:45:34] to be charged with that?
[1:45:35] Yeah.
[1:45:36] That's one of the good ideas.
[1:45:37] And then I have some questions.
[1:45:39] Just to clarify, not necessarily, you need to see member.
[1:45:41] No.
[1:45:42] Oh gosh, no.
[1:45:43] EDC will help.
[1:45:44] Oh, absolutely.
[1:45:44] I have to identify someone.
[1:45:46] Absolutely.
[1:45:47] If you're representing as a stakeholder group, you have to have a way to interact with them.
[1:45:53] Okay, so would we want to hear back by people by ex, you know, by, you know, November one or October 30th?
[1:46:02] Or will we get only one candidate left?
[1:46:03] No, in our resolution, October 50th.
[1:46:07] Community business leaders through the EDC.
[1:46:10] Yeah.
[1:46:11] In the room, the EDC.
[1:46:13] So how would you put that over?
[1:46:14] So we'd get these requests out by letter, by, by word of mouth,
[1:46:20] with an over-response by October 15th.
[1:46:24] And then we circled back to those panel
[1:46:25] with an organization.
[1:46:27] You would have to tell us what works for the two of you.
[1:46:30] That would be when you sit.
[1:46:32] You're maybe instead of the next pack meeting,
[1:46:34] this is like something.
[1:46:36] Right.
[1:46:36] Something that you already have on your calendar,
[1:46:38] might be good to follow.
[1:46:40] And I guess the thing to clarify is we talked about there being
[1:46:44] a little bit of a fluid membership
[1:46:46] that it doesn't have to be the same person at every meeting.
[1:46:48] So it's basically just raising it to these committees attention that we would like you to start
[1:46:53] desiccating people to come at these quarterly meetings, right?
[1:46:56] That's going to be an exiling privilege.
[1:46:58] They don't want to send someone and then maybe another member is going to say, I'd like to
[1:47:02] go to the next one.
[1:47:03] Right.
[1:47:04] So they were all with that.
[1:47:04] Absolutely.
[1:47:05] I agree.
[1:47:06] Just a clarification on the membership.
[1:47:08] I thought Alexa, we had, you had mentioned her tip, perhaps, people from the communication committee.
[1:47:14] I know we discussed what something has to go out.
[1:47:16] It would be given.
[1:47:17] I just want to make sure that we're not missing anybody that you have thought.
[1:47:21] No, I think that the, that's really the communication.
[1:47:27] And it's called out in the resolution.
[1:47:31] Thank you.
[1:47:31] Thank you.
[1:47:34] I mean, we might have to make creeps as we start using this, but I think it's a really good framework to start out of it if everybody's comfortable.
[1:47:42] But with a rise in being a potential organizational meeting within 2026, like early we get, you know, people by the 15th of October, and then maybe early November.
[1:47:53] Right, and I will work on that.
[1:47:56] Why don't you sit on that for November for a first week organizational meeting date, but I would do it regardless of whether you have a full complement.
[1:48:05] Okay, I agree.
[1:48:07] Okay, don't get hung up on.
[1:48:09] Yeah.
[1:48:10] But I like Anne's idea about giving these letters declaring what the intent is and asking.
[1:48:17] Because I think that's just clarifying what is needed for the committee work.
[1:48:21] And we're going to write that there.
[1:48:24] Normally these calls for the committee members.
[1:48:26] Do they go out to the clerk's office?
[1:48:29] I think the announcement does.
[1:48:32] But just for my part, people on my, or not, it's I leave, not to the antibias, they have asked me,
[1:48:40] what's the matter with the down board? How can we haven't got the letter that says, this is what we need?
[1:48:44] So, I don't know. I know, and that's what, that's what the answer was, but they just want to be prepared and
[1:48:51] want it to be clear what's being asked of them in the essential. And they get to it a lot of things.
[1:48:55] And it's certainly the same thing.
[1:48:58] I said, when we hear it now, and we have it all done,
[1:49:01] we're going to be clarifying the work as well.
[1:49:03] But just to your point about, this is what we need.
[1:49:06] Think about it.
[1:49:06] A couple of people's time, including the staff
[1:49:08] that we're asking to be part of this.
[1:49:10] Well, that's it.
[1:49:12] We have to.
[1:49:13] Yeah.
[1:49:14] So what was going to send it out?
[1:49:16] And we read it.
[1:49:17] Well, we can write it just to let us know where to send it.
[1:49:20] OK.
[1:49:21] I think it would come from the supervisors office.
[1:49:23] at the state, at this meeting, this was done, here in the picture.
[1:49:26] I mean, I would go over to the supervisor and that, and listing, you know, that maybe
[1:49:30] would also be, or maybe it's from the two liaisons.
[1:49:32] Yeah.
[1:49:35] Where is this advertised for committees?
[1:49:37] But we're not advertising for public members.
[1:49:40] Yeah, we're, where you are, there's a couple, there were business leaders in the house.
[1:49:45] We don't have to advertise.
[1:49:46] House of worship, I think, should come through, there isn't a accounting medical council.
[1:49:51] Yeah.
[1:49:52] We can send individual letters.
[1:49:53] I don't know.
[1:49:54] It has to be a group that a member who has a group to go back to yeah, so that's why
[1:50:00] it's advertising as we do for a regular
[1:50:04] committees. I know there's a group and we can ask. That's why we talked about not.
[1:50:10] I don't want you to committee but calling it a
[1:50:13] what do we say we're going to call it? It is for the committee but now that we've
[1:50:18] added out you know we've made it more of a committee but
[1:50:20] Well, do you feel like there should be something in here, which is just an open?
[1:50:26] Well, there is. The business later.
[1:50:28] Okay. We cannot have the church.
[1:50:31] I like the EDC. I think it's a normal thing for the EDC to do.
[1:50:35] I'll reach on that, but not associated with the EDC.
[1:50:38] Right. Just the business community.
[1:50:40] It could happen to people, but I understand what you're saying.
[1:50:43] Why not put out an open request?
[1:50:45] Just like we usually do for committees for an individual with this background,
[1:50:49] specifically, right? So communications, you had to have this experience in order to
[1:50:55] like, what do we do that for these two or three positions?
[1:51:00] No, say why not? We didn't do that.
[1:51:02] Because I don't know. What are the schools going to say?
[1:51:04] Because we didn't do that through the past.
[1:51:05] But not all of a sudden.
[1:51:06] We saw representation of different groups.
[1:51:09] I feel like this is is similar to the task force because we want very specific
[1:51:14] I'm going to keep going back to your job on the committee is that you represent a group in the community.
[1:51:23] So it has to be somebody who has access to that group.
[1:51:26] So I might be a clergy person, but I don't meet with other clergy.
[1:51:32] So because the idea of a clergy person is, what are you hearing from your congregants about how people are doing?
[1:51:39] What do they need?
[1:51:40] If that anecdotal, I don't want to call the police, I don't know who to call, but I've got 10 people who are worried about ex-wise
[1:51:47] The road was closed and cars were coming fast. Whatever it was
[1:51:52] That that was the whole point of this is to coordinate
[1:51:56] Communication and follow procedures. I think you have to put out a call for
[1:52:00] Seeing volunteers
[1:52:02] So if you're gonna get people who care about the community volunteer at this, you're not gonna get indifferent people
[1:52:08] No, you're not. That's so I think this comfort you take comfort in the fact that people will apply for this actually want to help their computer.
[1:52:16] So then how are we are we going to put out all these roles and say if you fit under any of these categories you can apply?
[1:52:23] Well, there's really only, there's like, there's two, there's two, there's three, three, the business, the school and the church.
[1:52:30] Who would have advertised to the school?
[1:52:32] But I don't, we wouldn't advertise.
[1:52:34] I don't think there's three.
[1:52:35] Okay, so that was just a business community and the church.
[1:52:38] And the super dentist could decide it's a staff member, but it'll be a person who this job is.
[1:52:43] Yeah, that would be all right.
[1:52:44] I agree. So, so really there's two.
[1:52:46] There's the business leader and there's, so how we just really have to look,
[1:52:50] So, we just have to be religious councils, so we don't have to advertise.
[1:52:55] We just have to be religious councils.
[1:52:57] And Alexa will reach out to the business community through EDC and the chambers.
[1:53:02] And that's all we need to do.
[1:53:04] And we already have on a list of everything.
[1:53:07] So why do we need to spend money and advertise?
[1:53:10] Because it was a lot of things.
[1:53:12] I'm just trying to differentiate why we would or would not do that considering we do it for every other.
[1:53:19] This is not this. This is not like every other. Yeah, I mean, that's why. So the one, I mean, I sort of see the house that weren't
[1:53:26] almost falling in the same category as the school and maybe there's just one, which is the community business leader, like we did for the
[1:53:32] communications committee and we put out for a community and having a seat, which is open to the community and having specific
[1:53:39] qualities about being a business leader. We're going to open a business story. We're going to have other ask rabbi
[1:53:47] while the Cheryl is coming in tonight, what she thinks tonight, the best way to reach out.
[1:53:52] Okay.
[1:53:53] She's involved with the group.
[1:53:56] She's not.
[1:53:57] Yeah, we'll keep going.
[1:53:58] She might know who it is.
[1:53:59] She might know who it is, exactly.
[1:54:02] It's called that.
[1:54:03] Yeah, it's called that.
[1:54:04] This is the whole town, but it's called the river documentary.
[1:54:08] That's, I thought there was one.
[1:54:10] Share person.
[1:54:14] So maybe there are just an LM is what I'm saying, they have the answer already now, so we don't have to add that.
[1:54:21] So to clarify, no, this discussion will change the resolution.
[1:54:24] No, it can still be put on for tonight.
[1:54:26] Oh, absolutely.
[1:54:27] Oh, no, it's just a, oh, absolutely.
[1:54:29] Let's get started.
[1:54:30] Then maybe if we feel strongly that there should be something advertised, it would be for the January.
[1:54:36] And I think just for the business community, someone who's willing to volunteer for their
[1:54:42] time is going to get someone who cares.
[1:54:46] And if they don't think they get there for a meeting or two, they don't think it's
[1:54:49] for them, they'll let us again.
[1:54:53] Like a real committee.
[1:54:56] All right, so we will take a break for lunch, unless anyone has any intent items.
[1:55:02] I do have one, but I'll do it in exact just the way
[1:55:05] the resolution has written. Do we have any questions?
[1:55:08] All things meaningful to that, I would say.
[1:55:11] I do want to notice, and if I can notice it again tonight,
[1:55:15] that September is Guy's dog's service month,
[1:55:20] and there's a lot of people in our community that raise the puppies
[1:55:23] and train them, and we're very fortunate in this town to have
[1:55:28] a local Lions Club that raises a lot of money with the
[1:55:31] strawberry vessel to help to blind, but a lot of their fun
[1:55:34] goes to the K-9 and because it's expensive to train the guide dogs and everything and so I just
[1:55:43] wanted to bring awareness to that and one of the local community members, Ruthie and Corazini,
[1:55:51] she does the guide dogs and she she wanted to just kind of raise awareness of it so
[1:55:59] So it was a little, I wanted to do something a little more, but it was just too short notice.
[1:56:05] So I just figured we just talked about it in announcement.
[1:56:08] So I have just one other quick update last evening.
[1:56:12] I mentioned who sent out the draft a request for the village of Greenport on the transportation
[1:56:18] study or the area of those different roads.
[1:56:22] I was waiting for the village to have their talk about it, which I think happened.
[1:56:27] and then Trustee N. Lee is on tour of the Mary Beth Phillips, and I met with Tommy John
[1:56:35] Skivoni with the head office hours in grief, or so it's on his radar, but we'll bring
[1:56:40] a formal request to the town board, hopefully, at our next meeting, because we can formally
[1:56:45] support that.
[1:56:47] The only other topic that's still floating around is perhaps the conversation with our county
[1:56:52] legislature, Droski. I know he's been trying to get a lot of information
[1:56:56] pulled together for the region regarding flock cameras. So at some point, getting
[1:57:01] some kind of a more community-based discussion on that. When is the schedule
[1:57:05] coming to work for? Is there something scheduled? Again, we've had to share about
[1:57:09] a couple of years. And that's why it's been... No, I was thinking more
[1:57:16] October 6th, sorry. Yeah, but this is, I think we'll start with that, if this is not
[1:57:20] the community asking questions. Someone who's actually involved with the answering question.
[1:57:27] So the community might be like, oh, okay, they might have more questions, but at least they'll
[1:57:32] get the information. So we have the sheriff coming in over six. I don't know if we want our chief to
[1:57:38] give what, you know, South Pole cameras are doing. So that's also, of course, the community in conversation.
[1:57:44] So we have that schedule. I didn't realize that was already done. Thank you. Yeah, we tried to do
[1:57:48] and it wasn't that fairly confirmed either, so it's great that it's confirmed.
[1:57:53] Oh yeah, thanks to Lauren and Michelle, it was confirmed.
[1:57:56] Great, that'll be a good one.
[1:57:58] And thank you for developing the questions that we had.
[1:58:01] And Chief Grant was able to deliver it to the Sheriff's Department.
[1:58:03] They answered them and that's what they're going to be discussing on October 6th.
[1:58:07] I should note that I still have some technical questions.
[1:58:09] The block has not been able to answer them.
[1:58:11] And I feel like there have been some questions raised also about the process
[1:58:14] us about how, you know, they came into being and what we thought they were being used
[1:58:19] for.
[1:58:19] They are being you now.
[1:58:21] So do we have it open?
[1:58:23] Excellent.
[1:58:24] So that it can be part of the October or the October 6th, okay, did you want to say a few
[1:58:29] about the meeting we have?
[1:58:36] So it is 10 after 11.
[1:58:39] We're going to break the list.
[1:58:40] Okay.
[1:58:41] I'm so new.
[1:58:41] Just have one more very, very far.
[1:58:44] So after meeting with the dear management committee.
[1:58:47] One of the recommendations was to possibly discuss with the New York State Department Health
[1:58:56] or the county the possibility of a declaration of a health hazard before it took more than this.
[1:59:04] Some prior discussion have been done over a state of emergency,
[1:59:09] getting that is incredibly difficult. However, the declaration of a health hazard could possibly
[1:59:14] open up some legislative options for us here in Southhold, as far as more deer management
[1:59:19] options, counties, fading, etc. So this is something that the deer management committee will
[1:59:26] come to you more formally with for whom we talked to Tommy John about, but I just want to put it on
[1:59:30] your radar.
[1:59:33] I think we're going to remember when we first started the deer committee back in the day
[1:59:37] that we tried to do that. Was it emergency?
[1:59:41] It was a tumor difference. I tried to help that.
[1:59:45] I tried to help that.
[1:59:47] I think it was a health hazard.
[1:59:50] I'm not really sure. Maybe one is more extreme than the other.
[1:59:53] Right, right. I think we tried both ways, but I don't know.
[1:59:58] Oh, it's a holy ritual.
[2:00:00] Or a member that was, it's definitely, yeah, I don't know, like, going from medical test, you know,
[2:00:06] tell them, because they could trigger a, I'm happy to have a flag. Sure, jokes. I don't know
[2:00:13] if he was on the original one. I know you'd have to stand up for us. So this would be the chair. Yeah.
[2:00:19] John Rossweiler had this, yeah, he was, yeah, he was, yeah, okay. So John will know what we went through
[2:00:25] the last time, yes. But they were significantly worse than we think that appealing to the
[2:00:31] county or even the state. I think it's a great opportunity.
[2:00:35] Yeah, once we did it the first time, it was more of a southhold problem now. It's a country
[2:00:41] problem. Yeah. I mean, so I think framing it as a southhold problem. That is a question.
[2:00:47] Yes, obviously, it's gotten worse. Yeah. Yeah. Just a lot of thoughts about this
[2:00:54] part of lunch or flying. You remind me to talk about environmental issues.
[2:00:57] Yes, the other now. There's a nice article from the Suffolk Times from
[2:01:01] Nick Manjolvi and he spoke to entomologists, Jared Dwight Dyer.
[2:01:05] And I like his advice. I just want to read it.
[2:01:07] Homeowners don't need to panic. Mr. Dyer said, if you see them,
[2:01:11] the recommendation is to crush or stomp them. For larger numbers around a home
[2:01:15] a vacuum can work. Mr. Dyer suggested a backpack vacuum or a shop
[2:01:21] not back is also effective for quick non-chemical localized methods. So essentially, there's
[2:01:28] this guy's from Cornell Cooperative Extension. We have the EEC recommendations. They essentially
[2:01:33] are saying, don't panic, but yes, if you see them, get them, and if you see them, and then
[2:01:38] the non-chemical response is to vacuum them up with a shop back or something like that.
[2:01:43] But right now, the situation is not critical, but it's something that's being monitored and
[2:01:47] people have been commenting about our Facebook and all over the place.
[2:01:50] Well, corner of corporate extension has been served about us for years.
[2:01:53] Oh, yeah.
[2:01:54] I did want to speak about that.
[2:01:57] I spoke to the free committee chair, and it's really not, you know, in our, in our, our
[2:02:01] purview, but they know about it.
[2:02:03] And I did put a quick link on our 10 website to the DEC.
[2:02:07] We have a site that explains everything on that.
[2:02:10] Nordhorksson also did Nordhorkville that has a lot of links in it.
[2:02:13] and touch the norms, and they, they, between Cornell and DEC, they, they think they're coming
[2:02:18] up with some good solutions to eradicate, yeah, this is, they've been, Cornell's been
[2:02:23] working on it for a number of years, this season, like, something just, and there are natural
[2:02:28] predators, there's some, some insect that attacks them, birds are eating them, so hopefully
[2:02:33] there's a natural fix that it just, you can put them on the menu and somehow, you know,
[2:02:43] you
[2:02:51] I'll make a resolution to go on executives to bring for lunch until noon and then go into executive session for legal advice from our town attorney and then Kate Hachens, New York State, a OT council, town planning director, Heather Lands, Atlanta, Mara.
[2:03:12] Marist Sarozo, Community Development Project, Supervisor Andrea Sullivan, Deputy Supervisor
[2:03:18] John Sykes, potential acquisition sale, release of real property, where publicly would substantially
[2:03:25] affect the value thereof.
[2:03:27] We have low league call of coming in, labor matter, if you have any climate employment in particular
[2:03:31] persons, Deputy Supervisor John Sykes, Dan Goodwin, Alexis Sous, EDC member, town board discussion
[2:03:38] on government liaison, community engagement, Spanish-speaking positions,
[2:03:42] downward discussions, architect position, and then we have Kate Seaman,
[2:03:48] so talk about contracts and negotiations.
[2:03:50] I assume for issues, island stuff.
[2:03:53] So moved.
[2:03:54] Oh, I agree.
[2:03:56] I agree.
[2:03:56] I agree.
[2:03:57] Excellent.
[2:03:58] Thank you very much.