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I'd like to go ahead and call the meeting to order now at 807 a.m. I mean, that's not recording.

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We're recording in progress. There we go.

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So the first thing on the, we need to do, roll call.

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I don't think so. We're all here. All right. Root the bell. Please come to the office. We do need to have, I believe, Randy say her name, because.

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All right. Randy, will you please say your name since you are remote today?

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Thank you.

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First step today is the approval of the minutes of our August 6th meeting on that

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commotion to approve minutes.

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Second.

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Okay.

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Discussion.

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I just wanted to say that I received an email from Kenford at yesterday asking for some

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for some corrections to the minutes, so we made those, so what you're looking at have been amended, there were a couple of minor things that were incorrect in the original version.

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But that's the only feedback we have around any updates or corrections to the minutes.

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So at this point, those who approve the minutes of August 6, I will take an eye.

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All right.

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All right.

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And those name?

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All right.

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All right.

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The minutes are approved.

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All right.

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Our next step is to talk about the bylaws.

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These are all of our ceases in the state.

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that was the bell I didn't cause at least not yet. So all of the ceases around

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Vermont are working through this component right now and so we had our

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bylaws committee meet in the interim between our August meeting and today's

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meeting so if our bylaws committee could share what they learned and what they

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produced. That'd be great. Thank you.

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I can start here.

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Thank you, Ray. So myself, Pam and Brooke met last past couple year,

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back twice with past weeks. There are a few issues that we found while drafting bylaws.

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One is the fact that, well, the Georgia bylaws we think will be,

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It can be brought forth to the committee and to the public without any sort of contention or issue.

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We also feel that there may need to be some more uniformity across the state.

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With regard to bylaws and CISA, so we thought it might be more prudent for us to wait to see if you meet with the other chairs.

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To see if there is any movement around a drafting of a statewide CISA bylaws, particularly around a lot of what the government's message,

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as well as Secretary Sauners has been around more uniformity across things we're doing across

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the states, as opposed to having each CSa kind of going rogue and adopting different rules

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and doing different things. I'd be better to have us all more in lockstep because we're looking

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towards ways to find economy scale, more efficiencies, as well as to reduce the burden on our taxpayers,

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as well providing more services to programs for our students and our communities.

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We did also our discussion highlight that there is one article that we feel that is of public

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and certain that is the article around membership, finances, budget and contributions.

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And so what we drafted for the group is a sample article, which there are three sections,

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section one, being the corroborating fund section two, which, you know, we just for

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purpose of just discussion, had put one of the models in there, section two, but that

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is obviously a separate discussion.

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And then section three was around the fees, schedules, and building.

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And then for discussion, we looked at seven different types of modeling around how finances

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could be discussed or allocated here in our CSAT.

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And we also provide a spreadsheet that's, and there's a draft budget, but I just want to say that we were not charged with coming up with a budget.

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This budget was just merely for us to plug numbers in.

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So, so this is by no means a draft of a budget that is being proposed.

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It was just more for us to, you know, as we cost out different scenarios.

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But if you see in the spreadsheet that we have, you know, we did go 7 numbers because we did

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look at Southwest Tech and the cooperation that's in terms of the ADM will already be with

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our district.

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So we just removed you from that cost allocation, if that was okay for fire and sake.

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And then we said you see this in scenarios we have here, we have the Equal Split, we have

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100% ADM, we have a tiered subscription, we have a hybrid 5050, a hybrid 2575 base

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membership plus ADM core, and so what we've felt made the most sense, you know, we can discuss

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and I'll talk about that.

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Was that the Baves membership plus ADM core made the most sense for us, which meant that, for

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example, if we had a 320,000 operating budget for the FYI 2728, that we would take a base

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fee, which all 7 of us would be expected to pay, which would say, let's say, $15,000 base

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fee, which would be in that be a total base revenue of $105,000, the remaining $2027,000

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that would be allocated by ADN. So that would be weighted. And then any programs and services

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that any of us with access would be paid above and beyond that. And I said the spreadsheet

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allows us to work through scenarios throughout. So I don't prepare to fit in when I

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just underscore that we would love to see a more statewide approach to the

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bylaws so that we aren't experiencing the same thing that we're doing now

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with our separate districts in that if we're all expected to do certain things

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as a CISA that that is more uniform. But to that point it looks like in the

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to be doing statewide by laws and that those by laws should be models on VTLC, which we

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don't have access to those by laws, which I would think they would be a public document.

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So I'm not sure why we don't have access to those.

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So I'll talk a little more during my chairperson's announcements later.

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but we met as the...

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Randy.

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I don't know all the best to raise my hand. Is this fine? Do you want me to put it up like this? Or do you want me to wave? What kind of?

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Yeah, wave is probably better because they are hand is much better.

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It's a little yellow hand.

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Good morning and good afternoon to the President of the Legion.

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What?

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Oh, so the pledge of allegiance is over not only hold on.

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We're going to have several hours.

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And to the Republic for which it is based one nation on our God, in this war with the liberty and justice for all.

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On day of the 11.25 early release day, do a kind of walk to 80, 70.

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You have been a hold on.

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We have given this a few minutes.

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You can drop off the nation item at the Interact

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Club, or run them directly to the Homecoming

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Damian Street.

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People such as Grinolovars,

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theory items that have

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put from 7 to 930, they cost this $10 for

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You're good to go.

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Okay, good.

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Can I ask you a question?

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And I actually, I really appreciate this cost modeling that you are proposing.

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I just want to add some thinking about, I don't know what our process is going to be,

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but in my mind, I'm envisioning that we are bringing some of these to our boards, right,

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and sharing them, and what we'll talk about, we'll talk about process later.

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But we've got a assumption.

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In my mind, this is a template for who we are and how we operate now, that the numbers

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would all change, should any mergers happen in the future, and so the model will stay the same,

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entities and numbers will change on a manual basis.

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They're correct.

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Correct.

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Correct.

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I would imagine, so since the bylaws would have to reflect the change to organizations,

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so that some organizations would go away, and some organizations will be created.

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so that it to become parties to it. So you're right.

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And then just one more question. If we're looking at ADM, do we need to consider

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how are we adjusting that annually? Or are we just how often is that percentage we envisioning

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that every year will be, there will be a process to be identified for any district to identify

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what their costs are going to be based on some ADM, whether it's the previous years or something

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and we have talked about that level yet.

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So, right now I believe we would have to each year evaluate, but on the previous years ADM,

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because right now we don't have this year's ADM, we don't have that till late fall or early winter.

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So, when we were looking through the modeling, we were using the ADM from 2526.

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Or I'm sorry, last year or so.

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So in my mind, we would just keep doing that, annually we would use the previous year's

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ADM and allocate accordingly.

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Correct.

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I think we would just decide, you know, what the base would be and then, based on the ADM,

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if my ADM is up a little bit or down a little bit, that would adjust what that cost would

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And then we would want to do it early enough for budgeting purposes.

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So, did you guys research how other ceases are handling the other three independent regional

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technical sites?

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No.

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I mean I can reach out to the other three to see what they're talking about in their

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ceases.

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That would be great.

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I mean, our businessers are in the ADL, just trying to be double-caldy.

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it sounds different.

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Our business concern was just around just how the ADL was counted.

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Not double-calting.

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Mm-hmm.

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But I think one of the things we did around a scenario where if you had to say 25 students

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who were outside of Southwest or Benton Rutland,

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We're coming from a, you know, a district outside of a region, how do you count those students?

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Right. I think that was just, Sarah, we take a look at.

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Exit of Stafford may have a few that come from Ascent Kelly.

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Very few.

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Very few.

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Yes, very few, but.

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Well, I said, this is really, we understand there would be a lot of hypotheticals.

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Things we take a look at was for, or for point of discussion, just.

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And I know, on the, by, by, by law, Oracle draft sheet.

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We did provide a grid around the model type mechanics and some pros and cons.

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just for people in our standing different models a little bit better, but like I said, as we looked at, what would make most sense for us really was just the base, plus the ADM.

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But we obviously, we had to go south of Aztec, and we're preaching that we just would adjust into an eight member model.

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Which we do have a Senate, we do have a spreadsheet for that as well.

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And this is a membership fee, so if SouthWastek wanted to purchase services, they would pay for that.

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I wonder if we could do something whereby they just thought of it, paid the base fee,

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but not the ADM because the kids are counted already in R&D and Tim's.

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That would allow you access to be able to purchase the services which would be an additional cost,

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but there wouldn't be an additional ADM cost because they're already covered.

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So we divide the vase by 8 and then the 80 and then the 7.

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Correct, yeah.

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Yeah, that is enough.

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So I guess the question and no random pose as well is what do we want to feel comfortable

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going back to our rewards for discussion?

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Do we want to bring back our recommendation and then provide feedback?

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Do we want to provide all seven models for discussion and then?

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Well, anybody have anything before I say something?

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I'm still learning this chair.

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I first think we should limit the number of options we bring back to the local boards.

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Well, I think there are seven models.

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I think to be honest, not all seven really makes sense for us.

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I think if we could whittle it down to one or maybe two maximum.

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After the boards to consider them you come back to see feedback.

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But that's just my thought.

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I'm a, I'm really a fan of the hybrids where we pay kind of a, uh, a steady rate and then above.

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So, I'm not really wed to the 50% or the 25% I believe that to our committee, but I really like that so that that way South-West Tech can participate at that base level and then based on the size of our districts. That's how much we pay above and beyond. So, I like I personally like those.

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So you're the base membership but what payments are just that we divide the base by eight and then the eight

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We divide by seven and then whatever percentage

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Or is divided by yeah divided by seven

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Well, but so the seven be I need you. It's only seven will be count of the medium is what I mean, right? Yes, I'm

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sorry

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I mean, I'm fine

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I will say it's the smallest district

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I prefer five, then, where 25% is equal, and then the 75% is ADM.

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I would go the exact same way.

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I would go the exact same way.

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And what I just keep reminding myself is that these are statewide figures, right?

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And we're trying to look at the best for all of our students,

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And not just Rutland City's portion, but all of our children.

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And so if we look at from that standpoint, I feel better saying 15% but I think it's unfair for

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Rutland City to bear more of the burden I'm fine with the equal burden, but for my

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And so, for my perspective, I feel it's unfair to make a smaller district take on a bigger burden when we have fewer students.

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But, however, smaller districts might utilize the services more from a CSAM model than the larger districts.

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Correct.

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Potentially.

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But they're alive.

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Then we would pay for that, right?

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If we, whatever we use, so there is a payment.

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Right.

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But the base amount is for the administrative.

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We provide everybody.

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Right.

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For the administrative costs.

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And so if the larger districts aren't using the CSA as much, we're paying for administrative

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costs for services we aren't using.

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So I think we all have to remember there are a lot of lives that it goes to.

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Correct.

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thrust upon us, you know, not any of our boards

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that asked for this, a lot of our boards are

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wondering about the additional costs, you know,

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just these for year one, you know, we said we were looking

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for ways to reduce costs while this looks like

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at least the first year that's going to increase cost for our,

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I see, so I think we have to look at the model

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that makes most sense moving, not just year one, but moving forward,

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And I'd operate in an SU.

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I know that teacher, I see a local district

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sewer, who question percentages, or upset with access

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to services, and so I understand the conversation

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we're having here.

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But I think we also have to look at terms of the end

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when this is up and running, how we all

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will be able to access programs, services,

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and that will benefit our kids, and what that really looks

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like.

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So I think we're going to come back and I don't think anyone's

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necessary to be happy with with this grand peace queen.

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Great, ready.

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Thank you.

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I appreciate the conversation.

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I think that we are all.

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You know, I don't, I think there's costs to,

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I, I know, can't intend it, but cost to everything, right?

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And there's opportunities.

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And I'm wondering if, you know,

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I feel like I could be wrong, but what I'm hearing and what I experienced myself is I'm

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like trying to figure out how this all plays out within my system, right?

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Like, am I now having all these additional expenses with no return on this investment?

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And I have to somehow absorb this cost and we are benefiting.

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I mean, none of us want to go back to our communities and say that.

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So I am wondering if I know that this discussion needs to happen.

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We need to explain that in a model.

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I can look at pros and cons from personally to all of these, right?

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But I'm wondering if part of the conversation in order for us to find the path forward is to

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or not, you know, what might be, what might we start with for CISA services that really do benefit all of us?

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And, you know, like I'm thinking to myself, if we started a special education services panel would probably be thinking,

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well, I feel really good about the services we're providing, I don't need to access anything.

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Somebody else might feel like that's important, right?

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But is there something we can start with that all that will save us all money out of the gate?

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I don't know if it's professional development, or if we're willing to make a big move around,

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you know, an HR person and charge of medical benefits for everyone, I don't know.

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But it might help because I think no matter what we pick,

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We're going to have communities who are pretty frustrated by this model if we can avoid that to the extent we can by saying yes, but we'll get this or yes, and we'll get this.

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I don't know, just so I guess what I'm saying is I think I like to have these membership in ADM or model.

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I was trying to figure out that would be probably my preference.

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But what is the base reminding me about that?

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I'm trying to look in the dark and I can't put figure out where that base thing came from.

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I'm so talking.

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Thank you.

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Where it came from?

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Yeah, what is the concept between the base and now that like 15,000, just the conceptually,

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what is that representing?

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So that was just a place full of the $15,000 just for our discussion.

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for discussion, say that was not a number that we're proposing.

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The benefit, I think, is, you know,

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Renee had said we have three hybrids,

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we have the hybrid 50, 50,

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hybrid 25, 75, and the vase,

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which each of the hybrids talks about 50% of,

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like the hybrid 50, 50% of the vase,

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hybrid 25, so if I was 25% of the vase,

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the vase membership that we talked about,

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the nice, the, one of the nice things about this is

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we have, as a group, the opportunity to adjust the vase

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from year to year based by what we feel comfortable paying.

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So we may find that if we set 15,000 dollars,

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that may have been too low or too high.

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So we as a group can adjust that face.

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But when we adopt the 25, 75 or 50, 50,

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we're locked in on that percentage.

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Thank you.

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The base allows us to fluctuate from your dear, based on what that operating budget may be.

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And we as a group feel comfortable paying, you know, apartment before the ADM.

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We may find that's the $15,000 might be way too low than the ADM, you know, percent.

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So we may want to raise that or we may find that $15,000 is a little bit high.

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And so we could adjust that down a little bit, and the ADM may be a little bit higher percentage.

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So, and that may take care of some of the concerns that Cheryl has, but also, you know,

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looking at, you know, Tim and Pam, you know, who have a higher idea on the others, you know,

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so, in terms of what does that percentage look like?

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So, I think there's always going to be a discussion around what we're getting out of this program

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and what we're paying into, and that that's also where the operating budget might be very

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careful by that too.

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And I don't see how we're going to consolidate services or provide services next year.

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So I think there is an up front cost to get this off the ground in terms of making sure we have the right administrative infrastructure in place to start looking at those consolidated programs.

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I mean, being September 18th, you know, I don't think any of us are in any position.

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I could be wrong to say, next year, all technologies going to be done have the CSA.

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I mean, I don't think we can pull that off.

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I mean, we haven't even hired a part-time executive director.

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We haven't even applied for the $50,000 from the AOE because we don't-

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or even the 15.

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So I think in order to make this work,

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there isn't upfront cost in FY28 to get this off the ground

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and the shared services don't happen until FY29.

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I think that's the only way it's gonna work.

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And I think that even is going to be a tight timeline

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unless we're really committed to making this happen.

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In Rande House, let's say real quick, one thing you've talked about is, and it's discussed

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here in the grid, it's about the benefits of membership. I think that's what we're all

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trying to express to our communities, to our boards, maybe the public, or what are the benefits

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of this season? In Brook and I and Pam and our small group, we've talked about where we

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vision out three years from now, five years from now, seven years from now, what that looks

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like, and so we can maybe see potential benefits, but in the meat, you're one, people

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might say, okay, they were really our benefits, you know, we look at how this is rolled

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out.

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We know that we're beginning to set budgets for, you know, 5, 12, 20, 20, 20, 8.

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So we may not see a lot of, yes, our benefits next year, but it might be two years from now

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through.

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now I know talking with some members of the learning collaborative, you know, two weeks ago,

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they were saying that they've been operational now for four or five years and they still

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are looking at their modeling and they're not really don't particularly see, they large-scale

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benefit, probably it's like a year is 7 through 10 I think it's what they're saying so it's going

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to take some time if you really want to see some of these big moves, but this also is, in terms

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of what happens with the merger committees, too.

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I mean, so I think the CISA's and the merger committees are a lock step.

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And so as we're operating here, if our merger committees make some significant gains over

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the course of one year, we might see that that timeline is down from, you know, 7-9 years

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to years two or years three, based on what's happening in this other committee.

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So we're not operating in isolation.

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We have to also operate within constraints of our current system as well as a system that currently

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being discussed and developed in a virtual community as well.

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Oh, also just, the financial pieces one, the other is, what is the benefit that is going

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to bring to our students that if we are able to secure services or combine services, et cetera,

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will we be able to offer more to all of our students, not just in isolation.

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I do.

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I find myself in a familiar space that is Vermont, the noble goal of increasing opportunities

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for kids and hopefully saving money.

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But what is provided at the state level is a vague goal and no road map.

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And then the creation of seven different entities to figure it out, it is the epitome of

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of efficiency. And I will say this is probably because I've been reading too much about merger,

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is my worry is we could create a system in seven ten years. If I'm still here in ten years,

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I've made some poor choices, but seven or ten years to realize the savings of it, we could create a

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That actually creates a frustration for the future and you could have districts who say,

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Look, I'm not happy with 25, 75 split.

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I'm a Rutland City.

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I'm going to go shop a different C said that'll cut me a deal for 50, 50.

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It's the same thing in the merger.

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We've got people scrambling to align to their interest.

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And something is basic is how much we're going to pay to create future problems for folks.

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This seat is too expensive, it doesn't, I can't justify it to my community that it provides you up to that's on my argument that's VSU, right?

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I'm a little frustrated and I appreciate all the work you folks are doing, modeling or proposing it, but it's like, good God, the lack of efficiency is just killing.

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In a model that is supposed to be saving money, I'm a little baffled.

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So hybrid is interesting to me, I'll put my position on the table, we can argue about the percentages,

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but I'm just telling you, you got six ceases right now, I have in the same conversation with different ends.

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What are we doing?

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Yeah, and the other thing, too, is if all of the districts at the table aren't really all in,

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I'm making the CSO work, shared service model isn't going to work, because people aren't going to come to the table to share those services.

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So, you know, for example, I've just Chris and I are all in unsure, you know, I don't know what then the future of the CISA is.

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So I think people have to be all in to meet this work.

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Can I just jump into, I am all in because I do think in theory it's a great idea.

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My concern is to say to my taxpayers or the community that we may not see benefits for seven to ten years and asking them at this point to pay money for something that

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Political will change is and this is lost money so the benefits at this individual state was the financial benefits significant financial benefits

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there were benefits for students, for schools, for programming that were mediates.

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So within the year, what's the media?

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I'm sorry.

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You got the financial debate.

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The services, the program.

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To the kids, other things that schools and districts were accessing within the first couple of years. So there were benefits. But I think when we talk about the thesis a lot of what people think is this going to be a tax payer, we'll see some financial reductions as a result of this.

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And well, yes, that's true, but it's going to take some time to really see the significant

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impacts of that.

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And so while we can look at even your one, for next year we could find some small things

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that we can do across our business.

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We talked about having shared professional development, you know, pulling resources, but in

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multi-million dollar budgets, $5,000 really does not move the needle much.

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What we really, in order to really move the needle, we have to look at, you know, look at

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record positions, we look at program, we're looking at services, we're looking at consolidation

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of buildings, certain senses, where we talk about the need for a more alternate program.

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I mean, those are things which, you know, across our region, if done correctly, our taxpayers

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will see the benefits that their students will have, for a educational standpoint, for

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a social standpoint, as well as from a financial standpoint, for the, the, their tax

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So let's go.

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But that said, take some time.

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Okay.

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And I think that's kind of the start of where, I mean, that's where we are now is what

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can we do immediately, you know, kind of short short term, then medium term, then the long term.

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Because the long term, that's where the, I guess the financial savings occur.

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But there are things that, because we have small districts, and because we have small schools,

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There are services that kind of fall between either people on a campus or people at central office that we're not getting to as efficiently or as expertly as we would like because our attention in our time is split in a lot of different ways.

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And as a result, we're not able to provide that full benefit to individual students on a daily basis.

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So we get to it, but it's not the way that we would like to do it.

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So potentially, that's where the cease of comes in.

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The other concern that I have is, let's say that we decide to go all in on, I don't know,

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a particular aspect of our work.

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Well, if some of us have that position within our district, well, that means we're going

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to have to sunset that we have to give that person notice, it can't be, and potentially

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if that person is using software to help them do their job and we're all using different platforms

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well that's going to potentially end up saving money too but that means that we have to

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sunset that and then be able to migrate that data into a new platform so that even when we start

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to share our services it's not going to be an immediate thing it's typically going to be let's

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research, let's figure it out, then it's going to take another six months to a year to figure

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out how to implement it correctly. So even as we save money, the saving of the money is future

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potential, potential energy, really. So any other thoughts, discussion as far as taking information

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and back to their boards regarding.

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Hey, there's one technical question.

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When would we be asking, say we decide on a model,

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we would be looking to put that into our budgets

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that we're working on now for an exterior.

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I want to clarify that.

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Yes, I think we need that to figure out what's,

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I figured that was yet, but I wanted to make sure.

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So when will we decide on the base fee at the next meeting?

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Ready.

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So that's the first one to clarify, like, is the idea that we take this knowledge back

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to our boards and have discussion with them and we'll come back to our next meeting in

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on a model and then that's the model that we use to budget. That seems reasonable to me I just

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wanted to make sure we're on the same page. And are we taking all of the models back or

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just those hybrids and base plus medium? That was going to be my question is do we need to make

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a motion to select or to limit the number of the things that we're taking. Okay, so I would

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entertain a motion for selecting one or several of these options to take back to our boards this month.

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Can you be very, who I was making the motion just be very, don't say it super fast and be clear so that when I'm taking the notes, I get it for a piece.

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I would suggest that they need the number 137 as opposed to listing the listing the what it is so that that way we can refer to it later on.

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I don't have the shape of the numbers.

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I'll make the motion.

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I think it is.

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I make the motion to take models for five and six.

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Back to our boards for discussion and for a decision of the next season meeting and October.

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So Randy, since you have those numbers, it's 4 is hybrid, 55, 5 is hybrid, 25, 75,

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and 6 is base membership plus ADM core.

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Okay, Brooke, can you thank you for the opportunity to back to our boards for discussion and

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C sub word to consider a gethion of a model at our next board meeting which is October

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18th 16th 16th

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Yes.

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00:36:34,220 --> 00:36:34,280
Yes.

443
00:36:34,700 --> 00:36:36,820
So does this sound correct for the motion?

444
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:41,960
I move to take models 4, 5 and 6 and I will add those pieces and back to our boards

445
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,800
for discussion and for the C support to consider for adoption at the October Board meeting.

446
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:48,880
So I miss something, right?

447
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:49,580
And what?

448
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:53,940
The boards?

449
00:36:55,220 --> 00:36:55,640
Wait.

450
00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:59,280
No, I don't think you missed something maybe on the other side.

451
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:05,880
October. At the October meeting, we, the C sub board would select a singular model, right?

452
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:14,880
Right. Right. But are we asking our boards to give us a recommendation to bring back for us, right?

453
00:37:15,460 --> 00:37:21,860
We're just guessing it, but we're going to ask our boards to kind of put forth a recommendation or not.

454
00:37:21,860 --> 00:37:23,420
I don't know about that.

455
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:29,960
I think we're telling them the three that we're considering at the C sub 2.

456
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:35,920
Board to make them aware that at the October meeting, one of those three will be picked.

457
00:37:36,500 --> 00:37:43,840
Yeah, I think we want to give feedback. That's it. I think we're asking them for feedback, and then we bring that feedback to the meeting.

458
00:37:47,780 --> 00:37:59,670
I have a question for clarification. Then for number six, I am not sure 100% what that means. I can just go ahead.

459
00:37:59,670 --> 00:38:00,630
I'll go, go, go, go, go, go, go.

460
00:38:00,830 --> 00:38:06,290
No, I was going to say, I understand the fixed equal base model, right?

461
00:38:06,290 --> 00:38:09,370
But then what would the ADM be based on?

462
00:38:09,970 --> 00:38:12,870
So, are overall budget that we need to put in?

463
00:38:12,890 --> 00:38:14,610
So, are you looking at these spreadsheet?

464
00:38:14,850 --> 00:38:16,810
I'm looking at number six, yeah.

465
00:38:17,250 --> 00:38:19,350
So, page one.

466
00:38:21,090 --> 00:38:24,430
So, on the spreadsheet, there should be this scenario details.

467
00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:27,350
That's how the continuity scenario details.

468
00:38:27,590 --> 00:38:34,190
So you have four is the hybrid 5055, the hybrid 2575, is six is the base membership plus

469
00:38:34,190 --> 00:38:34,910
EDM core.

470
00:38:35,290 --> 00:38:40,970
That would note just we have to adjust all three models that, so for the hybrid 5050 we

471
00:38:40,970 --> 00:38:49,770
have to be 50% equal among eight, plus 50% by EDM, the 2575 that would be 25% equal among

472
00:38:49,770 --> 00:38:58,030
8 plus 75% by ADM and then the base would have to be the core budget is about 8, but then the

473
00:38:58,030 --> 00:38:59,990
ADM, the ADM would then be around month to seven.

474
00:39:01,290 --> 00:39:04,410
So, dependent on whatever budget we create.

475
00:39:04,410 --> 00:39:07,030
We create which we haven't created a budget.

476
00:39:07,310 --> 00:39:13,390
We put in a draft budget and the materials just to that.

477
00:39:13,450 --> 00:39:14,410
So, we have the budget.

478
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:16,470
So, we understand that.

479
00:39:16,470 --> 00:39:18,010
Yeah, that makes sense to me.

480
00:39:18,010 --> 00:39:24,890
I just wanted, I was just wanting to send before we start discussion, but can we get a second on that?

481
00:39:25,170 --> 00:39:26,690
I'll second it.

482
00:39:26,870 --> 00:39:27,610
That was Chris.

483
00:39:28,230 --> 00:39:28,350
Thank you.

484
00:39:29,650 --> 00:39:31,050
Okay, discussion.

485
00:39:33,210 --> 00:39:33,950
Any more discussion?

486
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:48,760
I think that draft budget was really just us having numbers to cost out scenarios.

487
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:56,320
That is, in no way, shaped before anyone's recommendation in terms of what a budget would look like or want to be contained.

488
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:06,920
That was just us taking a look at, like if we were to plug in each of these models, give us an idea in terms of what the impact of our participation might be when this model or our cost may be.

489
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:12,940
could go back and bring this back to our boards and explain to them in a, you know, a

490
00:40:12,940 --> 00:40:16,900
CISA has a $3,000 or $2,000 operating budget. Here's what that would look like in Sarah

491
00:40:16,900 --> 00:40:23,020
Iwons, Sarah too. We would have to adopt one of these, and then once we have one of these,

492
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:27,900
then we would have to then build out a budget, and then we then plug that in through there. So,

493
00:40:27,900 --> 00:40:34,100
and that's where number six does give flexibility in terms of us adjusting that base fee while

494
00:40:34,100 --> 00:40:40,580
4 and 5, the hybrid you are locked at a 50% or a 25% while the base you do have, you know,

495
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:45,820
some flexibility in terms of what that base would be, it could be anywhere between 25 and 50,

496
00:40:46,020 --> 00:40:49,060
it could be below, it could be wherever we decide, and that's on a year to your base.

497
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:54,960
It says suppose once we adopt a 50 or 25, then that becomes part of our by-laws.

498
00:40:55,780 --> 00:40:58,300
Until we decide to amend by-laws.

499
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,160
So for clarity, the base membership plus ADM core model number six,

500
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:09,740
The difference is the year-to-year percentage, just that everybody is correct.

501
00:41:10,180 --> 00:41:14,780
We want to just decide on that year what that base fee would be correct.

502
00:41:18,410 --> 00:41:20,190
So question for the committee.

503
00:41:20,810 --> 00:41:29,630
So are the spreadsheet that you guys shared are the formulas for all of these scenarios included in it

504
00:41:29,630 --> 00:41:32,090
or just one of the scenarios?

505
00:41:34,210 --> 00:41:41,790
And I guess it looks like all of them, because I want to go back and play with, I want to go back and play with it mathematically, so.

506
00:41:42,210 --> 00:41:52,590
So what we'd have to adjust to adjust, we do have a model that we just have to adjust, because the current model of the shared is the face is divided among seven people.

507
00:41:53,170 --> 00:41:54,730
We have to adjust that.

508
00:41:54,850 --> 00:41:55,030
Okay.

509
00:41:55,690 --> 00:41:58,570
I just want to see a written as a formula because.

510
00:41:58,570 --> 00:42:03,830
Yeah, so I didn't just say that to you, the form of the bed just perfect, I don't know, dirty like that.

511
00:42:10,780 --> 00:42:12,860
Okay, all right.

512
00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:16,560
So it was a really long motion.

513
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:32,140
So those in favor of taking the four, five and six back to our respect towards during our next meetings and getting their feedback.

514
00:42:32,140 --> 00:42:42,940
So, we can present it and select one of these funding models for the CSa in our October meeting, please say aye.

515
00:42:43,380 --> 00:42:44,680
Aye. Aye.

516
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,420
Those saying nay.

517
00:42:48,620 --> 00:42:50,820
Okay, the vote is unanimous.

518
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,220
So, we will come back.

519
00:42:54,460 --> 00:42:59,820
We'll go get feedback from our boards and then present that next time around.

520
00:42:59,820 --> 00:43:10,720
Can I ask for a summary or presentation note that we all share, so it would be the same message as we go out?

521
00:43:11,060 --> 00:43:18,300
Yeah, we also talked about coming up with kind of a summary in general to give our communities so that we are all

522
00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:19,100
A meeting summary?

523
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:19,840
A meeting summary.

524
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,840
So then we were presenting the same information.

525
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:29,260
So yeah, so I think Tim, what we could do is if we developed as a group of meeting summary, that could be part of that.

526
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,080
It's in terms of here's the information that we would present.

527
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:32,860
I appreciate it.

528
00:43:33,620 --> 00:43:36,080
And I want to say thank you for all your work on us.

529
00:43:37,020 --> 00:43:43,580
Would a, would you prefer, for preparation for next meeting?

530
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:53,180
Would it make sense for me to send you all a Google form that you could fill out with your board information so that we have it in one place so we can see it before?

531
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:57,440
for the next meeting, for instance, it's a Google form.

532
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:02,360
We're not sharing open or violating a meeting wall.

533
00:44:02,780 --> 00:44:04,480
And I would, I just want to clarify.

534
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,820
We're not asking for the board to make any motion.

535
00:44:09,240 --> 00:44:10,620
Just they're input on it, correct.

536
00:44:13,890 --> 00:44:16,670
And in the point of clarification, there's more for Randy and Renee.

537
00:44:16,910 --> 00:44:20,730
As we do, a supervisor unions are the, do we envision,

538
00:44:20,890 --> 00:44:23,210
just bring this back to the supervisor union or to our little

539
00:44:23,210 --> 00:44:28,070
boards as well. I just will make sure we're consistent with that.

540
00:44:29,710 --> 00:44:36,290
I think it's a supervisory union because we're representing the supervisory union in the services

541
00:44:36,290 --> 00:44:40,710
that we're talking about our SU level services.

542
00:44:42,450 --> 00:44:44,470
I'm fine with that. Just will make sure that there's a few more.

543
00:44:44,470 --> 00:44:46,270
I can support that too.

544
00:44:46,290 --> 00:44:47,030
That's what we're talking about.

545
00:44:48,910 --> 00:44:51,610
Are you saying you just do the math?

546
00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:54,830
Two are SU boards or two district boards as well.

547
00:44:55,330 --> 00:44:59,890
I was asking for a clarification just to make sure that all of the four of us who will operate.

548
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,000
If in an S.U. are doing the same thing. If one of us was bringing it back to all of our local boards, but

549
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:13,280
three others weren't or vice versa. I want consistency across, just as we're going to have meeting

550
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,380
notes that we will be sharing out with all of our boards. I think it just wanted to make sure

551
00:45:17,380 --> 00:45:22,920
that the conversation discussions that Randy, you, me, Tim and Renee are having that we are, if we

552
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:28,240
agree to just our S.U. boards and I'm fine with that. I think that that's appropriate given

553
00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:32,340
In fact, that the CSM model is built on SEO or supervisory districts.

554
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,740
We represent the supervisory union, which should be from my perspective, this supervisory

555
00:45:36,740 --> 00:45:41,860
union is providing input because, yeah, I don't know, I'm open to other options, but that

556
00:45:41,860 --> 00:45:44,440
seems reasonable to me.

557
00:45:45,100 --> 00:45:48,460
I'm following that, okay, all right, good.

558
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:55,820
I'm going to ask for the kind of the chairperson's privilege.

559
00:45:55,820 --> 00:46:00,300
I need to end the zoom because it looks like it's messing up on my side.

560
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:01,240
I want to end the zoom.

561
00:46:01,380 --> 00:46:07,800
We'll take like a two minute break so I can restart the zoom and we'll, so for those of you

562
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:12,460
playing along at home, we'll be right back just because I want to make sure that the zoom

563
00:46:12,460 --> 00:46:14,080
is not about to fail.

564
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:15,660
So we'll be right back.

565
00:46:15,660 --> 00:46:16,360
So we'll be right back.

566
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:16,680
We'll be right back.

567
00:46:17,300 --> 00:46:17,480
Okay.

568
00:46:17,740 --> 00:46:18,520
Thank you.

569
00:46:25,340 --> 00:46:25,780
Okay.

570
00:46:25,780 --> 00:46:33,480
The room-wide camera to take over the meeting, but until then it's me and Randy and everybody in the background

571
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,040
So we're going to go ahead and move on to our next

572
00:46:37,620 --> 00:46:42,340
agenda item, which is asset mapping and

573
00:46:42,340 --> 00:46:44,060
Find my document

574
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:49,920
And so

575
00:46:51,940 --> 00:46:55,680
This component also is fairly opaque

576
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,870
Didn't really know what it meant didn't really have

577
00:46:58,870 --> 00:47:05,930
a true description of what it is that we're supposed to be doing, but what we did as a committee

578
00:47:07,590 --> 00:47:17,610
was kind of isolate what the legislation says, and then I utilized Claude to help me figure

579
00:47:17,610 --> 00:47:26,590
out what it all meant. And so given that, given that the expectation not only from the

580
00:47:26,590 --> 00:47:32,650
to point of view, but also from potentially even the consolidation point of view, we need

581
00:47:32,650 --> 00:47:42,490
to know where all of our, as a coherent group, we need to know what all we have, what

582
00:47:42,490 --> 00:47:52,410
all we're able to provide, and so based on that, our committee met and reviewed the documents

583
00:47:53,630 --> 00:48:01,230
that were created, and really what we were trying to do is to look at all of the different

584
00:48:01,230 --> 00:48:07,090
components that exist within a school district, you know, things like, well, of course,

585
00:48:07,210 --> 00:48:12,690
the finance, of course, debt, buildings, programming, personnel,

586
00:48:15,090 --> 00:48:16,370
capital projects, all of

587
00:48:16,370 --> 00:48:25,630
different things that are other parts of our CISA and parts of our potential consolidation

588
00:48:25,630 --> 00:48:35,890
partners would want to know. And so we created a template where different parts of the

589
00:48:35,890 --> 00:48:40,330
school district would complete. So you'd have a superintendent complete some part,

590
00:48:46,330 --> 00:48:46,350
the

591
00:48:46,350 --> 00:48:49,610
you'd also have the curriculum and special

592
00:48:49,610 --> 00:48:53,690
a student services person, correct, look at them.

593
00:48:54,190 --> 00:48:57,450
And at the end of the day, the goal is for us to not only

594
00:48:57,450 --> 00:49:02,850
find places where we have things in common, but also

595
00:49:02,850 --> 00:49:06,510
to find the gaps where potentially we're not providing the

596
00:49:06,510 --> 00:49:09,790
services that we could provide for our students because we

597
00:49:09,790 --> 00:49:12,190
don't have enough people, we don't have enough personnel,

598
00:49:13,170 --> 00:49:15,730
we don't have enough money, we don't have enough space,

599
00:49:15,730 --> 00:49:23,870
But then also to find places where potentially we're doing it well, but maybe not well enough.

600
00:49:24,570 --> 00:49:35,790
And so this is really just us trying to come together in order to identify what we have so we can come back and share.

601
00:49:36,630 --> 00:49:42,910
This is a, it's going to be a pretty tall order, but it's important for us to delegate

602
00:49:42,910 --> 00:49:50,570
what we can delegate, because delegate what we can delegate and then also to complete it

603
00:49:50,570 --> 00:49:57,330
by Thanksgiving break because we know that once Thanksgiving hits, the most important thing

604
00:49:57,330 --> 00:50:04,610
on our agenda is our budgets. So we are going to be very, we're going to be very focused

605
00:50:04,610 --> 00:50:12,330
on that. So not that we have an extraordinary amount of time, but we have time to actually

606
00:50:13,050 --> 00:50:20,250
look at it, review it, delegated, review it again, and then share it out at our December meeting.

607
00:50:22,210 --> 00:50:32,230
So one of the, I think what we posted online talked about a six week cycle, but that was

608
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:39,370
that we met as a group, and we were like six weeks isn't enough, so we recreated it

609
00:50:39,370 --> 00:50:47,190
where we would kick off with a meeting around October 1st, not necessarily on that day,

610
00:50:47,350 --> 00:50:53,870
because as we're finding out, our October 1st is really busy, but we around October 1st,

611
00:50:53,910 --> 00:50:58,830
where we have a meeting and then we'll come back, Chris, that thought that you shared earlier,

612
00:50:58,830 --> 00:51:06,630
I think we'll come back and say that maybe it's a two-fold meeting, then that any can be virtual

613
00:51:06,630 --> 00:51:13,210
we don't have to be in the same room where the committee and I lead through anybody else who

614
00:51:13,210 --> 00:51:19,570
will be helping you with the completion of the document answering any questions that may need to

615
00:51:19,570 --> 00:51:24,190
be answered at the inception and then also sharing the rest of the timeline.

616
00:51:24,930 --> 00:51:31,790
So, about a month in, we'll come back and check and see how everybody's doing with the completion.

617
00:51:32,890 --> 00:51:45,230
And I think the other component that I think is important is that I can set up office hours so that if you have individuals who would like to ask for feedback or ask what something actually means,

618
00:51:45,410 --> 00:51:49,230
I can do that instead of having random emails coming in back and forth.

619
00:51:49,230 --> 00:51:54,950
and that way chances are multiple people are going to want to have the same question.

620
00:51:57,310 --> 00:52:05,510
So then the ideally these workbooks workbooks will be completed by the time we leave for Thanksgiving

621
00:52:06,210 --> 00:52:06,770
break.

622
00:52:07,990 --> 00:52:13,330
That way the committee and I can look at them and if there are any outstanding questions that

623
00:52:13,330 --> 00:52:18,610
we may have, we can send you feedback so that that way when we get them on December 18th

624
00:52:18,610 --> 00:52:26,210
they're as close to being done as being done, so that's

625
00:52:28,870 --> 00:52:29,970
really awesome.

626
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:37,380
All that I have for that committee members, is there anything else that you would like to add? Is Randy? Yeah, Randy's on.

627
00:52:37,820 --> 00:52:45,940
I think that this is an incredibly, you know, extensive and de-smail of the document.

628
00:52:47,620 --> 00:52:52,300
And that's really, I would like to input for the committee regarding its timeline.

629
00:52:54,340 --> 00:52:56,840
We are, we are developing,

630
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,160
I did start now, right?

631
00:52:59,180 --> 00:53:01,560
We're building budgets, and some places

632
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:02,740
is my day, how do you look?

633
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:09,200
So, interesting, you are thoughts about the timing of it.

634
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,160
And whether it's reasonable to create

635
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:14,220
despite Thanksgiving or whether it should be a different time.

636
00:53:16,230 --> 00:53:17,870
Chris, you were saying something.

637
00:53:18,170 --> 00:53:19,630
Well, I think we can talk about this first.

638
00:53:19,670 --> 00:53:20,950
My mind's in wait till.

639
00:53:21,390 --> 00:53:21,610
Oh, OK.

640
00:53:21,730 --> 00:53:23,070
So if you want to address that.

641
00:53:25,900 --> 00:53:30,380
Any concerns from members of the timeline?

642
00:53:35,940 --> 00:53:41,680
It's Thanksgiving reasonable as reasonable as it seems so far away.

643
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:42,460
I know, right?

644
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,240
That's the right answer, Tim.

645
00:53:45,720 --> 00:53:49,380
Find the middle of restarting negotiations and everything.

646
00:53:49,740 --> 00:53:53,420
So I have a lot of my play, but we'll figure out how to get it happened.

647
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:54,100
Yeah.

648
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:54,380
Yeah.

649
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,680
And I think that's what it is that everybody, you know,

650
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,380
many hands makes light work.

651
00:54:01,640 --> 00:54:04,140
We've got to make sure that we share it.

652
00:54:04,140 --> 00:54:10,220
And maybe we go with that timeline, and if it needs to be adjusted, then it needs to be adjusted.

653
00:54:10,740 --> 00:54:11,700
Well, we're all flexible.

654
00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,140
We want to update it. The next meeting is where folks are in.

655
00:54:18,580 --> 00:54:19,160
Yes, good.

656
00:54:19,260 --> 00:54:20,320
That would be great.

657
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,720
We just wrote on the table, hey, we're running in doubt.

658
00:54:24,100 --> 00:54:27,200
Challenges are, oh, we already got our homework done, if we're going to be that kid.

659
00:54:28,380 --> 00:54:29,860
I think we're all going to be busy.

660
00:54:29,860 --> 00:54:36,080
That's every year where we don't have a lot of new things going on, but I think if we just keep it Thanksgiving

661
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:45,400
I don't think I'm going to just admit it. It is heavy left, so I think Brandy is correct. There's a lot, but if we're

662
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:52,920
you know, forcing this out of it, it should be okay. So we're now the clarification. I'm just going to

663
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:58,980
start with the template and I know that the, I guess the thing that I've had with for nine years

664
00:54:58,980 --> 00:55:03,380
just I know that sometimes the state uses a supervisor district

665
00:55:03,380 --> 00:55:06,200
and supervisor union interchangeably and it's right.

666
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:10,380
And so what it says district profile really we can just enter that as an

667
00:55:10,380 --> 00:55:12,960
SU profile we're not doing one for each of our district's correct.

668
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:20,040
I would say that since we're doing this as the CISA we should do it as the

669
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:30,850
supervisor union. So that that way it's just yeah I just want to

670
00:55:30,850 --> 00:55:36,250
And if there are assets that are technically owned by the district, we're still including those.

671
00:55:38,130 --> 00:55:40,430
That's a good follow-up too, in terms of, right?

672
00:55:41,350 --> 00:55:57,750
I think potentially I would need to add like a denotation somewhere in the template so that that way when something is shown as belonging to, I don't know, greater Rutland.

673
00:55:57,750 --> 00:56:05,350
It's really, though it's within greater Rutland's purview, it really belongs to Proctor or something like that.

674
00:56:05,770 --> 00:56:09,270
Yeah, I mean, I think building is a good example of that, right?

675
00:56:11,490 --> 00:56:20,670
The Green Ridge Elementary School is an asset, but it's really the district's asset and the district's asset is on a degree in asset.

676
00:56:22,690 --> 00:56:26,250
There's not, I don't think that there's none of those that I do think it is important,

677
00:56:26,770 --> 00:56:30,350
especially with the merger discussions to somehow be able to cards that out.

678
00:56:31,750 --> 00:56:38,130
Right, so we'll let the merger that kind of stuff happen at the merger talks, where our

679
00:56:38,130 --> 00:56:46,130
charges to do assets mapping for our board members, or for our group.

680
00:56:49,570 --> 00:56:52,790
So you mute your audio out on the news.

681
00:56:52,790 --> 00:56:53,170
Certainly.

682
00:56:55,350 --> 00:56:57,030
All right, one second.

683
00:56:58,050 --> 00:56:58,370
muted.

684
00:57:02,350 --> 00:57:03,810
OK, it shouldn't be that difficult.

685
00:57:04,110 --> 00:57:05,150
I can't do it.

686
00:57:05,350 --> 00:57:06,110
That's not good.

687
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:12,980
Randy, can you hear us?

688
00:57:13,280 --> 00:57:13,920
OK.

689
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:14,300
OK.

690
00:57:15,260 --> 00:57:22,200
stay on yours because clearly I can't do this, I don't know, okay, ready,

691
00:57:25,850 --> 00:57:26,510
I miss what you said

692
00:57:26,510 --> 00:57:27,270
because

693
00:57:30,730 --> 00:57:34,650
if we can switch it to the audio being back through the middle of our platform

694
00:57:34,650 --> 00:57:35,470
valuable.

695
00:57:40,540 --> 00:57:43,480
Can you hear us now? Well, here let me do this. Can you hear us now?

696
00:57:46,260 --> 00:57:46,660
Can you hear us

697
00:57:46,660 --> 00:57:49,880
Randy? Yes, you can, okay, but we can't hear her.

698
00:57:53,150 --> 00:57:59,090
I might just be volume again, he just hit the screen.

699
00:57:59,090 --> 00:58:02,980
to the side, just over here.

700
00:58:13,090 --> 00:58:15,290
Thank you, this man.

701
00:58:15,290 --> 00:58:16,130
I'm out of the issue.

702
00:58:16,350 --> 00:58:17,570
I don't know why it's an issue too.

703
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,720
Just don't see the, there it is.

704
00:58:28,020 --> 00:58:29,540
Maybe, no, that's the Zoom stuff.

705
00:58:30,180 --> 00:58:31,340
So you need the...

706
00:58:34,470 --> 00:58:35,910
Is there a volume on the lower right?

707
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:38,330
Cheryl, see the buttons? Is there a volume there?

708
00:58:40,270 --> 00:58:40,950
There it is.

709
00:58:41,210 --> 00:58:41,790
There we go.

710
00:58:42,150 --> 00:58:42,350
Thank you.

711
00:58:42,410 --> 00:58:43,150
Can I be hearing?

712
00:58:43,570 --> 00:58:44,010
Yeah.

713
00:58:44,190 --> 00:58:44,370
Yeah.

714
00:58:45,010 --> 00:58:45,890
Now, okay.

715
00:58:47,670 --> 00:58:47,890
All right.

716
00:58:48,650 --> 00:58:48,770
All right.

717
00:58:48,910 --> 00:58:49,470
Here we go.

718
00:58:50,010 --> 00:58:50,290
Okay.

719
00:58:50,750 --> 00:58:51,050
All right.

720
00:58:51,050 --> 00:58:52,170
Thank you.

721
00:58:52,310 --> 00:58:52,810
Oh, no.

722
00:58:53,130 --> 00:58:53,550
You're welcome.

723
00:58:53,650 --> 00:58:54,130
Thank you, Cheryl.

724
00:58:55,530 --> 00:58:55,570
Okay.

725
00:58:55,990 --> 00:58:58,970
Now we are to Tim with the Treasurer's Update.

726
00:59:00,310 --> 00:59:01,490
Really short.

727
00:59:02,410 --> 00:59:06,130
I want to thank the chair for connecting me with other treasures.

728
00:59:07,290 --> 00:59:09,790
Four other treasures across the state.

729
00:59:10,630 --> 00:59:19,190
Just started email chain yesterday and I hope to ask questions and share some resources.

730
00:59:20,350 --> 00:59:28,330
The other piece, oh, I will not steal your thunder for the CCFAQ or did read that thoroughly and you can.

731
00:59:29,070 --> 00:59:34,170
I've made a checklist of all the things that we're supposed to do to form a financial entity,

732
00:59:34,610 --> 00:59:37,850
so that's all learning for me and I'll have more of the next time we meet.

733
00:59:41,510 --> 00:59:42,650
Any questions for Tim?

734
00:59:43,170 --> 00:59:45,830
No, I just wanted to say thank you to Tim for dealing with this thing.

735
00:59:47,750 --> 00:59:50,210
I appreciate your optimism of my cafe.

736
00:59:51,090 --> 00:59:53,990
That's all I had to ask.

737
00:59:55,370 --> 00:59:59,970
It is, it's a, yes, it is because like that.

738
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:07,640
Without what the next steps that you're having to do on that checklist, it's going to be really hard for us to do our jobs.

739
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:08,760
Thank you.

740
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:09,860
Should I slow down?

741
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,660
I don't know. That's a good question, too.

742
01:00:15,340 --> 01:00:21,740
Chair's report. I just wanted to make sure that everybody had access to the CSO FAQs.

743
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:29,260
Though they are listed as draft on the link, they are actually up and running their official FAQs.

744
01:00:29,260 --> 01:00:34,480
They came about as a result of two meetings with the agency of education.

745
01:00:37,100 --> 01:00:48,540
The chairs of the other six entities within the state reviewed them and gave them, gave the feedback to the AOE, they rewrote them.

746
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:58,380
So we were able to learn a little bit more about what this entity is taking on as a, for education in Vermont.

747
01:00:58,380 --> 01:01:06,300
The other thing that came out of that meeting, or a series of meetings was the collaboration

748
01:01:06,300 --> 01:01:14,140
among the six other chairs, slash co-chairs of the ceases.

749
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:19,940
We had our first meeting yesterday, and we're just gave everybody, or gave each other,

750
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:28,240
updates as to where we were in our process, and it seems to me like many of our colleagues

751
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:35,520
are going, you know, they're kind of at the same point, but they also shared your frustration

752
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:42,640
in that we're being left to our own devices to do seven different ways of doing things.

753
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:49,440
So I think by holding these meetings and by the treasurers holding their meetings, we are going

754
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:57,520
to work together to really streamline the amount of work that individuals have to do in order

755
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,220
to get these bodies up and running.

756
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:03,860
So they expressed interest in our bylaws,

757
01:02:04,140 --> 01:02:08,160
they expressed interest in our asset mapping program, too.

758
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:13,060
So I will be sharing back with them what it is that we've

759
01:02:13,060 --> 01:02:13,740
created.

760
01:02:15,580 --> 01:02:20,860
We have now scheduled, regularly scheduled meetings that

761
01:02:20,860 --> 01:02:21,700
will occur monthly.

762
01:02:22,220 --> 01:02:26,000
And I think I'm going to ask if we can have like a short meeting

763
01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:31,500
with each other at our all-soups meeting next week.

764
01:02:32,900 --> 01:02:35,500
And Tim, thank you for reaching out to the other treasurers.

765
01:02:35,540 --> 01:02:38,560
I know that there's something that we talked about last time

766
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:40,440
that has now come to fruition.

767
01:02:41,980 --> 01:02:43,140
That's really it.

768
01:02:45,340 --> 01:02:49,840
So onto the next things, items for future meetings.

769
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,280
I do have a request.

770
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:56,240
As we have our first scheduled,

771
01:02:56,240 --> 01:03:02,220
But we have our first invitation out to meet with legislators in November, and it would be really helpful.

772
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:04,120
I'm probably going to jump a little bit here.

773
01:03:04,460 --> 01:03:06,320
Maybe out of next week's all-member meeting.

774
01:03:06,940 --> 01:03:13,440
If we had some talking points with regards to ceases for them, and for Medicaid.

775
01:03:14,380 --> 01:03:18,460
I know that's not for per view of here, but just consideration, as well.

776
01:03:18,900 --> 01:03:21,040
Many of us will be sitting together next week.

777
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:25,280
What I have encountered is on the ceases, since this is the meeting.

778
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:40,600
I have legislators who really don't understand what was asked of us and so some considerations, some points, some consistency in non-education speak for folks to understand.

779
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:55,740
So, in asking for clarification, so talking points of what how much or what we are doing to set up the ceases on top of our regular roles.

780
01:03:55,740 --> 01:04:00,720
and then also on the new Medicaid process.

781
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:09,140
I am trying to figure out how I am going to explain to my local school boards.

782
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,320
The potential for loss of revenue,

783
01:04:12,360 --> 01:04:15,860
reallocation of resources, using of staff time,

784
01:04:16,300 --> 01:04:20,020
and any collaboration that we can do as a group

785
01:04:20,020 --> 01:04:21,380
would be really helpful.

786
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:23,060
And again, it goes to that consistency,

787
01:04:23,060 --> 01:04:24,980
which we've talked about, and that's work already.

788
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:37,360
Chris, I think this is the, you brought up an additional meeting for...

789
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:38,700
Um...

790
01:04:38,700 --> 01:04:39,060
Yeah.

791
01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:40,800
Because, uh...

792
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,660
Supervisor Deans, we will be a provenance budget November,

793
01:04:44,340 --> 01:04:47,060
and as part of that, we would need to know, uh...

794
01:04:47,060 --> 01:04:48,860
what the cost would be for ceases.

795
01:04:49,100 --> 01:04:53,200
So we need additional meeting just to develop or operating budget.

796
01:04:55,620 --> 01:04:55,920
Um...

797
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,140
Does anybody, so...

798
01:04:58,140 --> 01:05:04,340
So between October meeting between the middle of October and middle of November, is that

799
01:05:04,340 --> 01:05:07,400
or do you when should that meeting take place?

800
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:13,260
I don't think it could take place whenever it was.

801
01:05:14,660 --> 01:05:14,760
Yeah.

802
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,900
I don't think we have to wait for after the next meeting.

803
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,260
Is the operating budget operating budget?

804
01:05:19,420 --> 01:05:23,860
We're just going to discuss how we're all going to pay for the operating budget.

805
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:24,920
Okay.

806
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:32,080
So yeah, we're just, we're just saying the operating budget is X. How now, how are we going to do it with X?

807
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,760
I don't think it necessarily means to wait.

808
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,100
Do we want to look at our calendars now?

809
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:39,600
Sure.

810
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:48,300
We don't have anybody playing along at home so that they could share their calendars too.

811
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,980
Yeah, good luck with the calendars.

812
01:05:50,980 --> 01:05:56,260
I mean, you've been no one worth fitting murder meetings and you know, it's good.

813
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:57,380
You know, I know.

814
01:05:57,380 --> 01:06:03,160
I don't need to sprung on us, but there's no night's left.

815
01:06:03,820 --> 01:06:04,220
Right.

816
01:06:10,090 --> 01:06:15,090
How about, does anybody, how about the 30th of September in the morning?

817
01:06:15,350 --> 01:06:17,370
I was just going to say that.

818
01:06:17,530 --> 01:06:18,110
I think that.

819
01:06:18,650 --> 01:06:21,910
I'm sorry, I think we just think about a little bit about what a day you're going to start

820
01:06:21,910 --> 01:06:28,110
So I'm having a hard time hearing you as I'm not sure how you've got to wear that.

821
01:06:28,970 --> 01:06:33,690
Okay, so we're talking about scheduling a meeting to do two things.

822
01:06:34,430 --> 01:06:46,690
One, it's to talk about how our individual districts, SUs, will pay for whatever the amount

823
01:06:46,690 --> 01:06:55,890
is that we're going to allocate for operating expenses next year for our CISA. So that's

824
01:06:55,890 --> 01:07:04,030
number one. And then number two, at that same meeting, we can invite anybody who is potentially

825
01:07:04,030 --> 01:07:08,850
going to help with the asset mapping so we can go through the spreadsheet that we can go

826
01:07:08,850 --> 01:07:12,990
through the template so people know what to enter and where.

827
01:07:12,990 --> 01:07:16,030
So the kickoff meeting for that. Correct.

828
01:07:19,180 --> 01:07:21,020
And is this virtual or in person?

829
01:07:24,310 --> 01:07:26,250
So I think we

830
01:07:26,250 --> 01:07:29,910
can make it virtual as long as this place.

831
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:35,040
This is reserved so if anybody wants to come, they can come.

832
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:36,900
Okay, we can do that.

833
01:07:36,940 --> 01:07:40,640
Is that acceptable? Is that okay with open meeting rules?

834
01:07:43,510 --> 01:07:43,630
Okay.

835
01:07:44,890 --> 01:07:45,950
What's on the 30th?

836
01:07:46,090 --> 01:07:47,170
Where do you think we're going to?

837
01:07:47,310 --> 01:07:50,910
I mean, is 8 to 10 okay for everybody?

838
01:07:51,170 --> 01:07:52,150
Works from there.

839
01:07:57,140 --> 01:07:58,440
All right, did you start on the day?

840
01:07:59,540 --> 01:08:00,580
September 30th?

841
01:08:04,820 --> 01:08:06,420
So we need to warn the meeting.

842
01:08:06,740 --> 01:08:07,060
Yes.

843
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:19,680
All right, eight to ten, virtually, eight percent of the patient at lower, yes.

844
01:08:20,220 --> 01:08:22,520
So Cheryl, that means you're going to be in here.

845
01:08:24,780 --> 01:08:26,620
Anyone's welcome to join us.

846
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:34,740
Anything else for future meetings?

847
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:46,280
So it sounds like at the next meeting, we'll do bylaws, boat on bylaws, and the operating budget.

848
01:08:46,280 --> 01:08:57,320
Yes, and a check-in on, and a check-in on where we are with the asset mapping, and yeah, and then our updates.

849
01:09:02,700 --> 01:09:07,800
Well, will we have applied for the grant by then probably not, right?

850
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:20,860
If we apply from the grant, well, the other ideas that we would have to designate a fiscal agent until we're able to get all of those things in place.

851
01:09:20,860 --> 01:09:25,200
So until we have a fiscal agent, and we might have to place

852
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:30,720
in the bottle to determine who is going to be the fiscal agent.

853
01:09:30,900 --> 01:09:32,580
Unless somebody's willing to volunteer to do that.

854
01:09:32,580 --> 01:09:35,180
I'm just wondering, and now to put Tim on the spot.

855
01:09:35,460 --> 01:09:37,940
But as the pressure, I'm just kidding, you just need to be the person.

856
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:40,900
We're going to have a spirit of conversation.

857
01:09:42,220 --> 01:09:47,500
No, what worries me about one of us saying they'll be the fiscal agent.

858
01:09:47,500 --> 01:09:53,450
that means that your business office is taking on the work that is associated with all of that.

859
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,080
I want to give them a statement.

860
01:09:58,520 --> 01:09:59,440
Yeah, that.

861
01:09:59,620 --> 01:10:02,260
I'm top of using that for legal fees and everything else.

862
01:10:02,440 --> 01:10:04,140
Yeah, 15,000 people like that.

863
01:10:04,500 --> 01:10:08,560
And doesn't it be, well, there, yes, there's reimbursement, but that's additional work, right?

864
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,860
It's fine for the reimbursement.

865
01:10:14,220 --> 01:10:18,840
So yeah, so I think we can have that discussion

866
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:29,360
at our October meeting because that I'm thinking then once we apply for the grant we should

867
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:36,280
consider, are we going to be hiring a part-time director with that $50,000 for the spring to kind

868
01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:44,440
of get us up and running. So what is that job description and all of that? That is also reimbursement

869
01:10:44,440 --> 01:10:50,240
right, the 50,000. So, well, it gets reimbursed. Is it reimbursement? Or is it reimbursed?

870
01:10:51,060 --> 01:10:58,700
So, that's a question. Is it reimbursement in that case, whoever is the fiscal agent, or our school district,

871
01:10:58,700 --> 01:11:05,720
expected to front of the money and then be a reimbursed. And if so, that is, that is not

872
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:16,380
the best of the chat because reading the FAQ, the 15,000, I remember reimbursed and

873
01:11:16,380 --> 01:11:23,300
coming out, I remember the executive driver. Yeah, but even if we're going to hire somebody

874
01:11:23,300 --> 01:11:30,180
part-time, we would need to have a job description, advertising, all of that. If only there

875
01:11:30,180 --> 01:11:34,180
template. It's only, oh sorry.

876
01:11:36,620 --> 01:11:41,540
So yeah, so to get the 50,000, we have to have, we have

877
01:11:41,540 --> 01:11:48,320
to be an active entity registration in SAM.gov, a U-E-I number, and complete the central

878
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:56,220
data in GMS, including submitting insurance certificates and a G-E-P-A4274. So that's a lot of work to do.

879
01:11:56,220 --> 01:12:01,980
That's a lot of work to do before we even can consider going to get a director.

880
01:12:02,500 --> 01:12:03,920
So that's all to act.

881
01:12:04,700 --> 01:12:10,060
So maybe can we access the $50,000 next year is it just this year?

882
01:12:11,580 --> 01:12:12,340
Yeah, yeah, that's in there.

883
01:12:12,480 --> 01:12:13,700
You can access it next year.

884
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:15,520
Yeah.

885
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,940
So I want to consider all of that with our budget.

886
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:19,480
I'm hearing you say broke.

887
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:21,780
It's maybe a measured approach to it.

888
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:23,680
I don't believe it.

889
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:29,840
I'm okay with a measure to approach because I think we're going to spend a lot of time chatting about

890
01:12:31,500 --> 01:12:33,780
We can at least at the next

891
01:12:33,780 --> 01:12:40,020
In our October meeting provide a checklist for everybody to see like as you said you're reading some of it and some of it's recondent

892
01:12:40,020 --> 01:12:42,460
But there's other things in that I think you too that you're

893
01:12:43,060 --> 01:12:48,960
Hey, you got your legal fee. How you set that up so I can at least I'm a visual person. I'll bring a visual of like

894
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:51,400
Hey, here's the checklist. You'll look at what I said

895
01:12:52,620 --> 01:12:53,440
Sounds good

896
01:12:53,680 --> 01:13:05,740
I think the only issue I just realized for me is my board meeting isn't until after our October 16th, CISA.

897
01:13:05,740 --> 01:13:14,160
So I'm not going to have feedback from my board, but I feel like for me it's the base membership fee.

898
01:13:14,780 --> 01:13:20,500
So that hybrid 50-50-25-something isn't really the fee is the fee.

899
01:13:20,500 --> 01:13:25,000
right. So I think that's okay. Okay,

900
01:13:29,700 --> 01:13:33,000
so we'll move on to our next item which is public comment.

901
01:13:33,460 --> 01:13:39,930
Is there anybody here who would like to give public comment to our Southwest Sisa at this time?

902
01:13:49,330 --> 01:13:56,870
All right with there being none. Our next meeting actually has was is no longer the October 16th.

903
01:13:56,870 --> 01:14:02,630
Our next meeting is actually September 30th at 8 in the morning.

904
01:14:03,670 --> 01:14:11,870
It will take place online with an in-person option of being available in this room.

905
01:14:13,290 --> 01:14:16,250
And with that, I will take a motion for adjournment.

906
01:14:16,290 --> 01:14:18,090
Some of the second.

907
01:14:18,730 --> 01:14:19,210
All right.

908
01:14:19,670 --> 01:14:23,750
We are concluding our meeting at 9.29 a.m.

909
01:14:24,710 --> 01:14:25,290
Thank you, everyone.