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[0:00] I'd like to go ahead and call the meeting to order now at 807 a.m. I mean, that's not recording.
[0:08] We're recording in progress. There we go.
[0:16] So the first thing on the, we need to do, roll call.
[0:21] I don't think so. We're all here. All right. Root the bell. Please come to the office. We do need to have, I believe, Randy say her name, because.
[0:29] All right. Randy, will you please say your name since you are remote today?
[0:39] Thank you.
[0:41] First step today is the approval of the minutes of our August 6th meeting on that
[0:49] commotion to approve minutes.
[0:50] Second.
[0:52] Okay.
[0:52] Discussion.
[0:55] I just wanted to say that I received an email from Kenford at yesterday asking for some
[1:04] for some corrections to the minutes, so we made those, so what you're looking at have been amended, there were a couple of minor things that were incorrect in the original version.
[1:16] But that's the only feedback we have around any updates or corrections to the minutes.
[1:28] So at this point, those who approve the minutes of August 6, I will take an eye.
[1:34] Okay.
[1:35] All right.
[1:36] All right.
[1:36] And those name?
[1:38] Oh.
[1:40] Okay.
[1:42] All right.
[1:43] All right.
[1:44] The minutes are approved.
[1:48] All right.
[1:49] Our next step is to talk about the bylaws.
[1:57] These are all of our ceases in the state.
[2:04] that was the bell I didn't cause at least not yet. So all of the ceases around
[2:12] Vermont are working through this component right now and so we had our
[2:17] bylaws committee meet in the interim between our August meeting and today's
[2:23] meeting so if our bylaws committee could share what they learned and what they
[2:27] produced. That'd be great. Thank you.
[2:32] I can start here.
[2:34] Thank you, Ray. So myself, Pam and Brooke met last past couple year,
[2:41] back twice with past weeks. There are a few issues that we found while drafting bylaws.
[2:49] One is the fact that, well, the Georgia bylaws we think will be,
[2:54] It can be brought forth to the committee and to the public without any sort of contention or issue.
[3:00] We also feel that there may need to be some more uniformity across the state.
[3:04] With regard to bylaws and CISA, so we thought it might be more prudent for us to wait to see if you meet with the other chairs.
[3:13] To see if there is any movement around a drafting of a statewide CISA bylaws, particularly around a lot of what the government's message,
[3:20] as well as Secretary Sauners has been around more uniformity across things we're doing across
[3:24] the states, as opposed to having each CSa kind of going rogue and adopting different rules
[3:30] and doing different things. I'd be better to have us all more in lockstep because we're looking
[3:35] towards ways to find economy scale, more efficiencies, as well as to reduce the burden on our taxpayers,
[3:42] as well providing more services to programs for our students and our communities.
[3:46] We did also our discussion highlight that there is one article that we feel that is of public
[3:53] and certain that is the article around membership, finances, budget and contributions.
[4:00] And so what we drafted for the group is a sample article, which there are three sections,
[4:09] section one, being the corroborating fund section two, which, you know, we just for
[4:15] purpose of just discussion, had put one of the models in there, section two, but that
[4:20] is obviously a separate discussion.
[4:22] And then section three was around the fees, schedules, and building.
[4:26] And then for discussion, we looked at seven different types of modeling around how finances
[4:33] could be discussed or allocated here in our CSAT.
[4:37] And we also provide a spreadsheet that's, and there's a draft budget, but I just want to say that we were not charged with coming up with a budget.
[4:48] This budget was just merely for us to plug numbers in.
[4:52] So, so this is by no means a draft of a budget that is being proposed.
[4:56] It was just more for us to, you know, as we cost out different scenarios.
[5:00] But if you see in the spreadsheet that we have, you know, we did go 7 numbers because we did
[5:05] look at Southwest Tech and the cooperation that's in terms of the ADM will already be with
[5:10] our district.
[5:12] So we just removed you from that cost allocation, if that was okay for fire and sake.
[5:17] And then we said you see this in scenarios we have here, we have the Equal Split, we have
[5:22] 100% ADM, we have a tiered subscription, we have a hybrid 5050, a hybrid 2575 base
[5:29] membership plus ADM core, and so what we've felt made the most sense, you know, we can discuss
[5:37] and I'll talk about that.
[5:39] Was that the Baves membership plus ADM core made the most sense for us, which meant that, for
[5:44] example, if we had a 320,000 operating budget for the FYI 2728, that we would take a base
[5:52] fee, which all 7 of us would be expected to pay, which would say, let's say, $15,000 base
[5:58] fee, which would be in that be a total base revenue of $105,000, the remaining $2027,000
[6:05] that would be allocated by ADN. So that would be weighted. And then any programs and services
[6:10] that any of us with access would be paid above and beyond that. And I said the spreadsheet
[6:15] allows us to work through scenarios throughout. So I don't prepare to fit in when I
[6:27] just underscore that we would love to see a more statewide approach to the
[6:34] bylaws so that we aren't experiencing the same thing that we're doing now
[6:40] with our separate districts in that if we're all expected to do certain things
[6:45] as a CISA that that is more uniform. But to that point it looks like in the
[6:57] to be doing statewide by laws and that those by laws should be models on VTLC, which we
[7:08] don't have access to those by laws, which I would think they would be a public document.
[7:16] So I'm not sure why we don't have access to those.
[7:19] So I'll talk a little more during my chairperson's announcements later.
[7:25] but we met as the...
[7:30] Randy.
[7:33] I don't know all the best to raise my hand. Is this fine? Do you want me to put it up like this? Or do you want me to wave? What kind of?
[7:39] Yeah, wave is probably better because they are hand is much better.
[7:43] It's a little yellow hand.
[7:45] Good morning and good afternoon to the President of the Legion.
[7:48] What?
[7:49] Oh, so the pledge of allegiance is over not only hold on.
[7:52] We're going to have several hours.
[7:53] And to the Republic for which it is based one nation on our God, in this war with the liberty and justice for all.
[8:09] On day of the 11.25 early release day, do a kind of walk to 80, 70.
[8:16] You have been a hold on.
[8:19] We have given this a few minutes.
[8:22] You can drop off the nation item at the Interact
[8:32] Club, or run them directly to the Homecoming
[8:39] Damian Street.
[8:41] People such as Grinolovars,
[8:47] theory items that have
[8:56] put from 7 to 930, they cost this $10 for
[9:08] one.
[9:08] You're good to go.
[9:10] Okay, good.
[9:12] Can I ask you a question?
[9:13] And I actually, I really appreciate this cost modeling that you are proposing.
[9:18] I just want to add some thinking about, I don't know what our process is going to be,
[9:22] but in my mind, I'm envisioning that we are bringing some of these to our boards, right,
[9:27] and sharing them, and what we'll talk about, we'll talk about process later.
[9:31] But we've got a assumption.
[9:35] In my mind, this is a template for who we are and how we operate now, that the numbers
[9:41] would all change, should any mergers happen in the future, and so the model will stay the same,
[9:49] entities and numbers will change on a manual basis.
[9:52] They're correct.
[9:53] Correct.
[9:54] Correct.
[9:56] I would imagine, so since the bylaws would have to reflect the change to organizations,
[10:03] so that some organizations would go away, and some organizations will be created.
[10:08] so that it to become parties to it. So you're right.
[10:11] And then just one more question. If we're looking at ADM, do we need to consider
[10:21] how are we adjusting that annually? Or are we just how often is that percentage we envisioning
[10:30] that every year will be, there will be a process to be identified for any district to identify
[10:37] what their costs are going to be based on some ADM, whether it's the previous years or something
[10:43] and we have talked about that level yet.
[10:45] So, right now I believe we would have to each year evaluate, but on the previous years ADM,
[10:51] because right now we don't have this year's ADM, we don't have that till late fall or early winter.
[10:56] So, when we were looking through the modeling, we were using the ADM from 2526.
[11:02] Or I'm sorry, last year or so.
[11:04] Okay.
[11:05] So in my mind, we would just keep doing that, annually we would use the previous year's
[11:09] ADM and allocate accordingly.
[11:13] Correct.
[11:13] I think we would just decide, you know, what the base would be and then, based on the ADM,
[11:18] if my ADM is up a little bit or down a little bit, that would adjust what that cost would
[11:23] be.
[11:23] And then we would want to do it early enough for budgeting purposes.
[11:30] So, did you guys research how other ceases are handling the other three independent regional
[11:38] technical sites?
[11:41] No.
[11:42] I mean I can reach out to the other three to see what they're talking about in their
[11:47] ceases.
[11:48] That would be great.
[11:48] I mean, our businessers are in the ADL, just trying to be double-caldy.
[11:54] Yeah,
[12:01] it sounds different.
[12:03] Yeah.
[12:04] Our business concern was just around just how the ADL was counted.
[12:08] Yeah.
[12:08] Not double-calting.
[12:10] Mm-hmm.
[12:10] But I think one of the things we did around a scenario where if you had to say 25 students
[12:17] who were outside of Southwest or Benton Rutland,
[12:22] We're coming from a, you know, a district outside of a region, how do you count those students?
[12:26] Right. I think that was just, Sarah, we take a look at.
[12:29] Exit of Stafford may have a few that come from Ascent Kelly.
[12:33] Very few.
[12:34] Very few.
[12:34] Yes, very few, but.
[12:36] Well, I said, this is really, we understand there would be a lot of hypotheticals.
[12:39] Things we take a look at was for, or for point of discussion, just.
[12:43] And I know, on the, by, by, by law, Oracle draft sheet.
[12:46] We did provide a grid around the model type mechanics and some pros and cons.
[12:51] just for people in our standing different models a little bit better, but like I said, as we looked at, what would make most sense for us really was just the base, plus the ADM.
[13:04] But we obviously, we had to go south of Aztec, and we're preaching that we just would adjust into an eight member model.
[13:11] Which we do have a Senate, we do have a spreadsheet for that as well.
[13:14] And this is a membership fee, so if SouthWastek wanted to purchase services, they would pay for that.
[13:22] I wonder if we could do something whereby they just thought of it, paid the base fee,
[13:28] but not the ADM because the kids are counted already in R&D and Tim's.
[13:35] That would allow you access to be able to purchase the services which would be an additional cost,
[13:40] but there wouldn't be an additional ADM cost because they're already covered.
[13:44] So we divide the vase by 8 and then the 80 and then the 7.
[13:48] Correct, yeah.
[13:49] Yeah, that is enough.
[14:00] So I guess the question and no random pose as well is what do we want to feel comfortable
[14:04] going back to our rewards for discussion?
[14:09] Do we want to bring back our recommendation and then provide feedback?
[14:13] Do we want to provide all seven models for discussion and then?
[14:21] Well, anybody have anything before I say something?
[14:27] I'm still learning this chair.
[14:28] I first think we should limit the number of options we bring back to the local boards.
[14:33] Well, I think there are seven models.
[14:35] I think to be honest, not all seven really makes sense for us.
[14:39] I think if we could whittle it down to one or maybe two maximum.
[14:45] After the boards to consider them you come back to see feedback.
[14:48] But that's just my thought.
[14:51] I'm a, I'm really a fan of the hybrids where we pay kind of a, uh, a steady rate and then above.
[15:00] So, I'm not really wed to the 50% or the 25% I believe that to our committee, but I really like that so that that way South-West Tech can participate at that base level and then based on the size of our districts. That's how much we pay above and beyond. So, I like I personally like those.
[15:32] So you're the base membership but what payments are just that we divide the base by eight and then the eight
[15:39] We divide by seven and then whatever percentage
[15:45] Or is divided by yeah divided by seven
[15:48] Well, but so the seven be I need you. It's only seven will be count of the medium is what I mean, right? Yes, I'm
[15:59] sorry
[15:59] I mean, I'm fine
[16:00] I will say it's the smallest district
[16:04] I prefer five, then, where 25% is equal, and then the 75% is ADM.
[16:15] I would go the exact same way.
[16:18] I would go the exact same way.
[16:22] And what I just keep reminding myself is that these are statewide figures, right?
[16:27] And we're trying to look at the best for all of our students,
[16:31] And not just Rutland City's portion, but all of our children.
[16:38] And so if we look at from that standpoint, I feel better saying 15% but I think it's unfair for
[16:50] Rutland City to bear more of the burden I'm fine with the equal burden, but for my
[17:01] And so, for my perspective, I feel it's unfair to make a smaller district take on a bigger burden when we have fewer students.
[17:16] But, however, smaller districts might utilize the services more from a CSAM model than the larger districts.
[17:25] Correct.
[17:27] Potentially.
[17:30] But they're alive.
[17:31] Then we would pay for that, right?
[17:33] If we, whatever we use, so there is a payment.
[17:36] Right.
[17:36] But the base amount is for the administrative.
[17:38] We provide everybody.
[17:40] Right.
[17:40] For the administrative costs.
[17:41] And so if the larger districts aren't using the CSA as much, we're paying for administrative
[17:45] costs for services we aren't using.
[17:48] So I think we all have to remember there are a lot of lives that it goes to.
[17:51] Correct.
[17:52] thrust upon us, you know, not any of our boards
[17:55] that asked for this, a lot of our boards are
[17:58] wondering about the additional costs, you know,
[18:01] just these for year one, you know, we said we were looking
[18:05] for ways to reduce costs while this looks like
[18:08] at least the first year that's going to increase cost for our,
[18:13] I see, so I think we have to look at the model
[18:14] that makes most sense moving, not just year one, but moving forward,
[18:17] And I'd operate in an SU.
[18:21] I know that teacher, I see a local district
[18:24] sewer, who question percentages, or upset with access
[18:27] to services, and so I understand the conversation
[18:30] we're having here.
[18:32] But I think we also have to look at terms of the end
[18:35] when this is up and running, how we all
[18:37] will be able to access programs, services,
[18:40] and that will benefit our kids, and what that really looks
[18:41] like.
[18:43] So I think we're going to come back and I don't think anyone's
[18:46] necessary to be happy with with this grand peace queen.
[18:51] Great, ready.
[18:53] Thank you.
[18:54] I appreciate the conversation.
[18:56] I think that we are all.
[18:59] You know, I don't, I think there's costs to,
[19:02] I, I know, can't intend it, but cost to everything, right?
[19:07] And there's opportunities.
[19:08] And I'm wondering if, you know,
[19:12] I feel like I could be wrong, but what I'm hearing and what I experienced myself is I'm
[19:20] like trying to figure out how this all plays out within my system, right?
[19:27] Like, am I now having all these additional expenses with no return on this investment?
[19:34] And I have to somehow absorb this cost and we are benefiting.
[19:39] I mean, none of us want to go back to our communities and say that.
[19:44] So I am wondering if I know that this discussion needs to happen.
[19:49] We need to explain that in a model.
[19:52] I can look at pros and cons from personally to all of these, right?
[19:58] But I'm wondering if part of the conversation in order for us to find the path forward is to
[20:06] or not, you know, what might be, what might we start with for CISA services that really do benefit all of us?
[20:16] And, you know, like I'm thinking to myself, if we started a special education services panel would probably be thinking,
[20:23] well, I feel really good about the services we're providing, I don't need to access anything.
[20:28] Somebody else might feel like that's important, right?
[20:31] But is there something we can start with that all that will save us all money out of the gate?
[20:37] I don't know if it's professional development, or if we're willing to make a big move around,
[20:44] you know, an HR person and charge of medical benefits for everyone, I don't know.
[20:50] But it might help because I think no matter what we pick,
[20:56] We're going to have communities who are pretty frustrated by this model if we can avoid that to the extent we can by saying yes, but we'll get this or yes, and we'll get this.
[21:08] I don't know, just so I guess what I'm saying is I think I like to have these membership in ADM or model.
[21:16] I was trying to figure out that would be probably my preference.
[21:19] But what is the base reminding me about that?
[21:23] I'm trying to look in the dark and I can't put figure out where that base thing came from.
[21:27] I'm so talking.
[21:28] Thank you.
[21:30] Where it came from?
[21:33] Yeah, what is the concept between the base and now that like 15,000, just the conceptually,
[21:39] what is that representing?
[21:41] So that was just a place full of the $15,000 just for our discussion.
[21:45] for discussion, say that was not a number that we're proposing.
[21:49] The benefit, I think, is, you know,
[21:51] Renee had said we have three hybrids,
[21:52] we have the hybrid 50, 50,
[21:53] hybrid 25, 75, and the vase,
[21:57] which each of the hybrids talks about 50% of,
[21:59] like the hybrid 50, 50% of the vase,
[22:02] hybrid 25, so if I was 25% of the vase,
[22:06] the vase membership that we talked about,
[22:08] the nice, the, one of the nice things about this is
[22:11] we have, as a group, the opportunity to adjust the vase
[22:14] from year to year based by what we feel comfortable paying.
[22:17] So we may find that if we set 15,000 dollars,
[22:20] that may have been too low or too high.
[22:22] So we as a group can adjust that face.
[22:24] But when we adopt the 25, 75 or 50, 50,
[22:27] we're locked in on that percentage.
[22:29] Thank you.
[22:30] The base allows us to fluctuate from your dear, based on what that operating budget may be.
[22:34] And we as a group feel comfortable paying, you know, apartment before the ADM.
[22:39] We may find that's the $15,000 might be way too low than the ADM, you know, percent.
[22:46] So we may want to raise that or we may find that $15,000 is a little bit high.
[22:50] And so we could adjust that down a little bit, and the ADM may be a little bit higher percentage.
[22:56] So, and that may take care of some of the concerns that Cheryl has, but also, you know,
[23:01] looking at, you know, Tim and Pam, you know, who have a higher idea on the others, you know,
[23:08] so, in terms of what does that percentage look like?
[23:09] So, I think there's always going to be a discussion around what we're getting out of this program
[23:15] and what we're paying into, and that that's also where the operating budget might be very
[23:19] careful by that too.
[23:20] And I don't see how we're going to consolidate services or provide services next year.
[23:26] So I think there is an up front cost to get this off the ground in terms of making sure we have the right administrative infrastructure in place to start looking at those consolidated programs.
[23:40] I mean, being September 18th, you know, I don't think any of us are in any position.
[23:48] I could be wrong to say, next year, all technologies going to be done have the CSA.
[23:53] I mean, I don't think we can pull that off.
[23:58] I mean, we haven't even hired a part-time executive director.
[24:03] We haven't even applied for the $50,000 from the AOE because we don't-
[24:09] or even the 15.
[24:11] So I think in order to make this work,
[24:13] there isn't upfront cost in FY28 to get this off the ground
[24:19] and the shared services don't happen until FY29.
[24:23] I think that's the only way it's gonna work.
[24:27] And I think that even is going to be a tight timeline
[24:30] unless we're really committed to making this happen.
[24:35] In Rande House, let's say real quick, one thing you've talked about is, and it's discussed
[24:42] here in the grid, it's about the benefits of membership. I think that's what we're all
[24:46] trying to express to our communities, to our boards, maybe the public, or what are the benefits
[24:51] of this season? In Brook and I and Pam and our small group, we've talked about where we
[24:58] vision out three years from now, five years from now, seven years from now, what that looks
[25:03] like, and so we can maybe see potential benefits, but in the meat, you're one, people
[25:10] might say, okay, they were really our benefits, you know, we look at how this is rolled
[25:13] out.
[25:14] We know that we're beginning to set budgets for, you know, 5, 12, 20, 20, 20, 8.
[25:19] So we may not see a lot of, yes, our benefits next year, but it might be two years from now
[25:24] through.
[25:24] now I know talking with some members of the learning collaborative, you know, two weeks ago,
[25:33] they were saying that they've been operational now for four or five years and they still
[25:39] are looking at their modeling and they're not really don't particularly see, they large-scale
[25:43] benefit, probably it's like a year is 7 through 10 I think it's what they're saying so it's going
[25:48] to take some time if you really want to see some of these big moves, but this also is, in terms
[25:53] of what happens with the merger committees, too.
[25:56] I mean, so I think the CISA's and the merger committees are a lock step.
[25:59] And so as we're operating here, if our merger committees make some significant gains over
[26:04] the course of one year, we might see that that timeline is down from, you know, 7-9 years
[26:10] to years two or years three, based on what's happening in this other committee.
[26:15] So we're not operating in isolation.
[26:16] We have to also operate within constraints of our current system as well as a system that currently
[26:20] being discussed and developed in a virtual community as well.
[26:25] Oh, also just, the financial pieces one, the other is, what is the benefit that is going
[26:30] to bring to our students that if we are able to secure services or combine services, et cetera,
[26:36] will we be able to offer more to all of our students, not just in isolation.
[26:44] I do.
[26:45] I find myself in a familiar space that is Vermont, the noble goal of increasing opportunities
[26:54] for kids and hopefully saving money.
[26:59] But what is provided at the state level is a vague goal and no road map.
[27:06] And then the creation of seven different entities to figure it out, it is the epitome of
[27:13] of efficiency. And I will say this is probably because I've been reading too much about merger,
[27:20] is my worry is we could create a system in seven ten years. If I'm still here in ten years,
[27:27] I've made some poor choices, but seven or ten years to realize the savings of it, we could create a
[27:40] That actually creates a frustration for the future and you could have districts who say,
[27:46] Look, I'm not happy with 25, 75 split.
[27:50] I'm a Rutland City.
[27:51] I'm going to go shop a different C said that'll cut me a deal for 50, 50.
[27:55] It's the same thing in the merger.
[27:57] We've got people scrambling to align to their interest.
[28:01] And something is basic is how much we're going to pay to create future problems for folks.
[28:08] This seat is too expensive, it doesn't, I can't justify it to my community that it provides you up to that's on my argument that's VSU, right?
[28:17] I'm a little frustrated and I appreciate all the work you folks are doing, modeling or proposing it, but it's like, good God, the lack of efficiency is just killing.
[28:28] In a model that is supposed to be saving money, I'm a little baffled.
[28:33] So hybrid is interesting to me, I'll put my position on the table, we can argue about the percentages,
[28:40] but I'm just telling you, you got six ceases right now, I have in the same conversation with different ends.
[28:45] What are we doing?
[28:46] Yeah, and the other thing, too, is if all of the districts at the table aren't really all in,
[28:52] I'm making the CSO work, shared service model isn't going to work, because people aren't going to come to the table to share those services.
[29:00] So, you know, for example, I've just Chris and I are all in unsure, you know, I don't know what then the future of the CISA is.
[29:10] So I think people have to be all in to meet this work.
[29:16] Can I just jump into, I am all in because I do think in theory it's a great idea.
[29:25] My concern is to say to my taxpayers or the community that we may not see benefits for seven to ten years and asking them at this point to pay money for something that
[29:40] Political will change is and this is lost money so the benefits at this individual state was the financial benefits significant financial benefits
[29:49] there were benefits for students, for schools, for programming that were mediates.
[29:54] So within the year, what's the media?
[29:56] I'm sorry.
[29:57] You got the financial debate.
[29:58] The services, the program.
[30:00] To the kids, other things that schools and districts were accessing within the first couple of years. So there were benefits. But I think when we talk about the thesis a lot of what people think is this going to be a tax payer, we'll see some financial reductions as a result of this.
[30:20] And well, yes, that's true, but it's going to take some time to really see the significant
[30:26] impacts of that.
[30:27] And so while we can look at even your one, for next year we could find some small things
[30:33] that we can do across our business.
[30:35] We talked about having shared professional development, you know, pulling resources, but in
[30:40] multi-million dollar budgets, $5,000 really does not move the needle much.
[30:45] What we really, in order to really move the needle, we have to look at, you know, look at
[30:49] record positions, we look at program, we're looking at services, we're looking at consolidation
[30:54] of buildings, certain senses, where we talk about the need for a more alternate program.
[31:00] I mean, those are things which, you know, across our region, if done correctly, our taxpayers
[31:05] will see the benefits that their students will have, for a educational standpoint, for
[31:10] a social standpoint, as well as from a financial standpoint, for the, the, their tax
[31:15] So let's go.
[31:16] But that said, take some time.
[31:19] Okay.
[31:19] And I think that's kind of the start of where, I mean, that's where we are now is what
[31:25] can we do immediately, you know, kind of short short term, then medium term, then the long term.
[31:32] Because the long term, that's where the, I guess the financial savings occur.
[31:37] But there are things that, because we have small districts, and because we have small schools,
[31:42] There are services that kind of fall between either people on a campus or people at central office that we're not getting to as efficiently or as expertly as we would like because our attention in our time is split in a lot of different ways.
[32:01] And as a result, we're not able to provide that full benefit to individual students on a daily basis.
[32:07] So we get to it, but it's not the way that we would like to do it.
[32:12] So potentially, that's where the cease of comes in.
[32:15] The other concern that I have is, let's say that we decide to go all in on, I don't know,
[32:21] a particular aspect of our work.
[32:25] Well, if some of us have that position within our district, well, that means we're going
[32:31] to have to sunset that we have to give that person notice, it can't be, and potentially
[32:36] if that person is using software to help them do their job and we're all using different platforms
[32:42] well that's going to potentially end up saving money too but that means that we have to
[32:46] sunset that and then be able to migrate that data into a new platform so that even when we start
[32:55] to share our services it's not going to be an immediate thing it's typically going to be let's
[33:00] research, let's figure it out, then it's going to take another six months to a year to figure
[33:06] out how to implement it correctly. So even as we save money, the saving of the money is future
[33:13] potential, potential energy, really. So any other thoughts, discussion as far as taking information
[33:24] and back to their boards regarding.
[33:29] Hey, there's one technical question.
[33:32] When would we be asking, say we decide on a model,
[33:37] we would be looking to put that into our budgets
[33:40] that we're working on now for an exterior.
[33:43] I want to clarify that.
[33:48] Yes, I think we need that to figure out what's,
[33:53] I figured that was yet, but I wanted to make sure.
[33:57] So when will we decide on the base fee at the next meeting?
[34:05] Ready.
[34:06] So that's the first one to clarify, like, is the idea that we take this knowledge back
[34:14] to our boards and have discussion with them and we'll come back to our next meeting in
[34:21] on a model and then that's the model that we use to budget. That seems reasonable to me I just
[34:28] wanted to make sure we're on the same page. And are we taking all of the models back or
[34:32] just those hybrids and base plus medium? That was going to be my question is do we need to make
[34:39] a motion to select or to limit the number of the things that we're taking. Okay, so I would
[34:48] entertain a motion for selecting one or several of these options to take back to our boards this month.
[34:59] Can you be very, who I was making the motion just be very, don't say it super fast and be clear so that when I'm taking the notes, I get it for a piece.
[35:08] I would suggest that they need the number 137 as opposed to listing the listing the what it is so that that way we can refer to it later on.
[35:22] I don't have the shape of the numbers.
[35:24] I'll make the motion.
[35:28] I think it is.
[35:31] I make the motion to take models for five and six.
[35:38] Back to our boards for discussion and for a decision of the next season meeting and October.
[35:49] So Randy, since you have those numbers, it's 4 is hybrid, 55, 5 is hybrid, 25, 75,
[35:59] and 6 is base membership plus ADM core.
[36:03] Okay, Brooke, can you thank you for the opportunity to back to our boards for discussion and
[36:15] C sub word to consider a gethion of a model at our next board meeting which is October
[36:26] 18th 16th 16th
[36:32] Yes.
[36:34] Yes.
[36:34] So does this sound correct for the motion?
[36:37] I move to take models 4, 5 and 6 and I will add those pieces and back to our boards
[36:41] for discussion and for the C support to consider for adoption at the October Board meeting.
[36:47] So I miss something, right?
[36:49] And what?
[36:53] The boards?
[36:55] Wait.
[36:56] No, I don't think you missed something maybe on the other side.
[36:59] October. At the October meeting, we, the C sub board would select a singular model, right?
[37:06] Right. Right. But are we asking our boards to give us a recommendation to bring back for us, right?
[37:15] We're just guessing it, but we're going to ask our boards to kind of put forth a recommendation or not.
[37:21] I don't know about that.
[37:24] I think we're telling them the three that we're considering at the C sub 2.
[37:30] Board to make them aware that at the October meeting, one of those three will be picked.
[37:36] Yeah, I think we want to give feedback. That's it. I think we're asking them for feedback, and then we bring that feedback to the meeting.
[37:47] I have a question for clarification. Then for number six, I am not sure 100% what that means. I can just go ahead.
[37:59] I'll go, go, go, go, go, go, go.
[38:00] No, I was going to say, I understand the fixed equal base model, right?
[38:06] But then what would the ADM be based on?
[38:09] So, are overall budget that we need to put in?
[38:12] So, are you looking at these spreadsheet?
[38:14] I'm looking at number six, yeah.
[38:17] So, page one.
[38:21] So, on the spreadsheet, there should be this scenario details.
[38:25] That's how the continuity scenario details.
[38:27] So you have four is the hybrid 5055, the hybrid 2575, is six is the base membership plus
[38:34] EDM core.
[38:35] That would note just we have to adjust all three models that, so for the hybrid 5050 we
[38:40] have to be 50% equal among eight, plus 50% by EDM, the 2575 that would be 25% equal among
[38:49] 8 plus 75% by ADM and then the base would have to be the core budget is about 8, but then the
[38:58] ADM, the ADM would then be around month to seven.
[39:01] So, dependent on whatever budget we create.
[39:04] We create which we haven't created a budget.
[39:07] We put in a draft budget and the materials just to that.
[39:13] So, we have the budget.
[39:14] So, we understand that.
[39:16] Yeah, that makes sense to me.
[39:18] I just wanted, I was just wanting to send before we start discussion, but can we get a second on that?
[39:25] I'll second it.
[39:26] That was Chris.
[39:28] Thank you.
[39:29] Okay, discussion.
[39:33] Any more discussion?
[39:38] I think that draft budget was really just us having numbers to cost out scenarios.
[39:48] That is, in no way, shaped before anyone's recommendation in terms of what a budget would look like or want to be contained.
[39:56] That was just us taking a look at, like if we were to plug in each of these models, give us an idea in terms of what the impact of our participation might be when this model or our cost may be.
[40:06] could go back and bring this back to our boards and explain to them in a, you know, a
[40:12] CISA has a $3,000 or $2,000 operating budget. Here's what that would look like in Sarah
[40:16] Iwons, Sarah too. We would have to adopt one of these, and then once we have one of these,
[40:23] then we would have to then build out a budget, and then we then plug that in through there. So,
[40:27] and that's where number six does give flexibility in terms of us adjusting that base fee while
[40:34] 4 and 5, the hybrid you are locked at a 50% or a 25% while the base you do have, you know,
[40:40] some flexibility in terms of what that base would be, it could be anywhere between 25 and 50,
[40:46] it could be below, it could be wherever we decide, and that's on a year to your base.
[40:49] It says suppose once we adopt a 50 or 25, then that becomes part of our by-laws.
[40:55] Until we decide to amend by-laws.
[40:59] So for clarity, the base membership plus ADM core model number six,
[41:03] The difference is the year-to-year percentage, just that everybody is correct.
[41:10] We want to just decide on that year what that base fee would be correct.
[41:18] So question for the committee.
[41:20] So are the spreadsheet that you guys shared are the formulas for all of these scenarios included in it
[41:29] or just one of the scenarios?
[41:34] And I guess it looks like all of them, because I want to go back and play with, I want to go back and play with it mathematically, so.
[41:42] So what we'd have to adjust to adjust, we do have a model that we just have to adjust, because the current model of the shared is the face is divided among seven people.
[41:53] We have to adjust that.
[41:54] Okay.
[41:55] I just want to see a written as a formula because.
[41:58] Yeah, so I didn't just say that to you, the form of the bed just perfect, I don't know, dirty like that.
[42:10] Okay, all right.
[42:14] So it was a really long motion.
[42:18] So those in favor of taking the four, five and six back to our respect towards during our next meetings and getting their feedback.
[42:32] So, we can present it and select one of these funding models for the CSa in our October meeting, please say aye.
[42:43] Aye. Aye.
[42:45] Those saying nay.
[42:48] Okay, the vote is unanimous.
[42:51] So, we will come back.
[42:54] We'll go get feedback from our boards and then present that next time around.
[42:59] Can I ask for a summary or presentation note that we all share, so it would be the same message as we go out?
[43:11] Yeah, we also talked about coming up with kind of a summary in general to give our communities so that we are all
[43:18] A meeting summary?
[43:19] A meeting summary.
[43:20] So then we were presenting the same information.
[43:23] So yeah, so I think Tim, what we could do is if we developed as a group of meeting summary, that could be part of that.
[43:29] It's in terms of here's the information that we would present.
[43:32] I appreciate it.
[43:33] And I want to say thank you for all your work on us.
[43:37] Would a, would you prefer, for preparation for next meeting?
[43:44] Would it make sense for me to send you all a Google form that you could fill out with your board information so that we have it in one place so we can see it before?
[43:54] for the next meeting, for instance, it's a Google form.
[43:57] We're not sharing open or violating a meeting wall.
[44:02] And I would, I just want to clarify.
[44:04] We're not asking for the board to make any motion.
[44:09] Just they're input on it, correct.
[44:13] And in the point of clarification, there's more for Randy and Renee.
[44:16] As we do, a supervisor unions are the, do we envision,
[44:20] just bring this back to the supervisor union or to our little
[44:23] boards as well. I just will make sure we're consistent with that.
[44:29] I think it's a supervisory union because we're representing the supervisory union in the services
[44:36] that we're talking about our SU level services.
[44:42] I'm fine with that. Just will make sure that there's a few more.
[44:44] I can support that too.
[44:46] That's what we're talking about.
[44:48] Are you saying you just do the math?
[44:51] Two are SU boards or two district boards as well.
[44:55] I was asking for a clarification just to make sure that all of the four of us who will operate.
[45:00] If in an S.U. are doing the same thing. If one of us was bringing it back to all of our local boards, but
[45:06] three others weren't or vice versa. I want consistency across, just as we're going to have meeting
[45:13] notes that we will be sharing out with all of our boards. I think it just wanted to make sure
[45:17] that the conversation discussions that Randy, you, me, Tim and Renee are having that we are, if we
[45:22] agree to just our S.U. boards and I'm fine with that. I think that that's appropriate given
[45:28] In fact, that the CSM model is built on SEO or supervisory districts.
[45:32] We represent the supervisory union, which should be from my perspective, this supervisory
[45:36] union is providing input because, yeah, I don't know, I'm open to other options, but that
[45:41] seems reasonable to me.
[45:45] I'm following that, okay, all right, good.
[45:49] I'm going to ask for the kind of the chairperson's privilege.
[45:55] I need to end the zoom because it looks like it's messing up on my side.
[46:00] I want to end the zoom.
[46:01] We'll take like a two minute break so I can restart the zoom and we'll, so for those of you
[46:07] playing along at home, we'll be right back just because I want to make sure that the zoom
[46:12] is not about to fail.
[46:14] So we'll be right back.
[46:15] So we'll be right back.
[46:16] We'll be right back.
[46:17] Okay.
[46:17] Thank you.
[46:25] Okay.
[46:25] The room-wide camera to take over the meeting, but until then it's me and Randy and everybody in the background
[46:33] So we're going to go ahead and move on to our next
[46:37] agenda item, which is asset mapping and
[46:42] Find my document
[46:48] And so
[46:51] This component also is fairly opaque
[46:56] Didn't really know what it meant didn't really have
[46:58] a true description of what it is that we're supposed to be doing, but what we did as a committee
[47:07] was kind of isolate what the legislation says, and then I utilized Claude to help me figure
[47:17] out what it all meant. And so given that, given that the expectation not only from the
[47:26] to point of view, but also from potentially even the consolidation point of view, we need
[47:32] to know where all of our, as a coherent group, we need to know what all we have, what
[47:42] all we're able to provide, and so based on that, our committee met and reviewed the documents
[47:53] that were created, and really what we were trying to do is to look at all of the different
[48:01] components that exist within a school district, you know, things like, well, of course,
[48:07] the finance, of course, debt, buildings, programming, personnel,
[48:15] capital projects, all of
[48:16] different things that are other parts of our CISA and parts of our potential consolidation
[48:25] partners would want to know. And so we created a template where different parts of the
[48:35] school district would complete. So you'd have a superintendent complete some part,
[48:46] the
[48:46] you'd also have the curriculum and special
[48:49] a student services person, correct, look at them.
[48:54] And at the end of the day, the goal is for us to not only
[48:57] find places where we have things in common, but also
[49:02] to find the gaps where potentially we're not providing the
[49:06] services that we could provide for our students because we
[49:09] don't have enough people, we don't have enough personnel,
[49:13] we don't have enough money, we don't have enough space,
[49:15] But then also to find places where potentially we're doing it well, but maybe not well enough.
[49:24] And so this is really just us trying to come together in order to identify what we have so we can come back and share.
[49:36] This is a, it's going to be a pretty tall order, but it's important for us to delegate
[49:42] what we can delegate, because delegate what we can delegate and then also to complete it
[49:50] by Thanksgiving break because we know that once Thanksgiving hits, the most important thing
[49:57] on our agenda is our budgets. So we are going to be very, we're going to be very focused
[50:04] on that. So not that we have an extraordinary amount of time, but we have time to actually
[50:13] look at it, review it, delegated, review it again, and then share it out at our December meeting.
[50:22] So one of the, I think what we posted online talked about a six week cycle, but that was
[50:32] that we met as a group, and we were like six weeks isn't enough, so we recreated it
[50:39] where we would kick off with a meeting around October 1st, not necessarily on that day,
[50:47] because as we're finding out, our October 1st is really busy, but we around October 1st,
[50:53] where we have a meeting and then we'll come back, Chris, that thought that you shared earlier,
[50:58] I think we'll come back and say that maybe it's a two-fold meeting, then that any can be virtual
[51:06] we don't have to be in the same room where the committee and I lead through anybody else who
[51:13] will be helping you with the completion of the document answering any questions that may need to
[51:19] be answered at the inception and then also sharing the rest of the timeline.
[51:24] So, about a month in, we'll come back and check and see how everybody's doing with the completion.
[51:32] And I think the other component that I think is important is that I can set up office hours so that if you have individuals who would like to ask for feedback or ask what something actually means,
[51:45] I can do that instead of having random emails coming in back and forth.
[51:49] and that way chances are multiple people are going to want to have the same question.
[51:57] So then the ideally these workbooks workbooks will be completed by the time we leave for Thanksgiving
[52:06] break.
[52:07] That way the committee and I can look at them and if there are any outstanding questions that
[52:13] we may have, we can send you feedback so that that way when we get them on December 18th
[52:18] they're as close to being done as being done, so that's
[52:28] really awesome.
[52:30] All that I have for that committee members, is there anything else that you would like to add? Is Randy? Yeah, Randy's on.
[52:37] I think that this is an incredibly, you know, extensive and de-smail of the document.
[52:47] And that's really, I would like to input for the committee regarding its timeline.
[52:54] We are, we are developing,
[52:56] I did start now, right?
[52:59] We're building budgets, and some places
[53:01] is my day, how do you look?
[53:03] So, interesting, you are thoughts about the timing of it.
[53:09] And whether it's reasonable to create
[53:11] despite Thanksgiving or whether it should be a different time.
[53:16] Chris, you were saying something.
[53:18] Well, I think we can talk about this first.
[53:19] My mind's in wait till.
[53:21] Oh, OK.
[53:21] So if you want to address that.
[53:25] Any concerns from members of the timeline?
[53:35] It's Thanksgiving reasonable as reasonable as it seems so far away.
[53:41] I know, right?
[53:43] That's the right answer, Tim.
[53:45] Find the middle of restarting negotiations and everything.
[53:49] So I have a lot of my play, but we'll figure out how to get it happened.
[53:54] Yeah.
[53:54] Yeah.
[53:55] And I think that's what it is that everybody, you know,
[53:58] many hands makes light work.
[54:01] We've got to make sure that we share it.
[54:04] And maybe we go with that timeline, and if it needs to be adjusted, then it needs to be adjusted.
[54:10] Well, we're all flexible.
[54:13] We want to update it. The next meeting is where folks are in.
[54:18] Yes, good.
[54:19] That would be great.
[54:20] We just wrote on the table, hey, we're running in doubt.
[54:24] Challenges are, oh, we already got our homework done, if we're going to be that kid.
[54:28] I think we're all going to be busy.
[54:29] That's every year where we don't have a lot of new things going on, but I think if we just keep it Thanksgiving
[54:36] I don't think I'm going to just admit it. It is heavy left, so I think Brandy is correct. There's a lot, but if we're
[54:47] you know, forcing this out of it, it should be okay. So we're now the clarification. I'm just going to
[54:52] start with the template and I know that the, I guess the thing that I've had with for nine years
[54:58] just I know that sometimes the state uses a supervisor district
[55:03] and supervisor union interchangeably and it's right.
[55:06] And so what it says district profile really we can just enter that as an
[55:10] SU profile we're not doing one for each of our district's correct.
[55:13] I would say that since we're doing this as the CISA we should do it as the
[55:20] supervisor union. So that that way it's just yeah I just want to
[55:30] And if there are assets that are technically owned by the district, we're still including those.
[55:38] That's a good follow-up too, in terms of, right?
[55:41] I think potentially I would need to add like a denotation somewhere in the template so that that way when something is shown as belonging to, I don't know, greater Rutland.
[55:57] It's really, though it's within greater Rutland's purview, it really belongs to Proctor or something like that.
[56:05] Yeah, I mean, I think building is a good example of that, right?
[56:11] The Green Ridge Elementary School is an asset, but it's really the district's asset and the district's asset is on a degree in asset.
[56:22] There's not, I don't think that there's none of those that I do think it is important,
[56:26] especially with the merger discussions to somehow be able to cards that out.
[56:31] Right, so we'll let the merger that kind of stuff happen at the merger talks, where our
[56:38] charges to do assets mapping for our board members, or for our group.
[56:49] So you mute your audio out on the news.
[56:52] Certainly.
[56:55] All right, one second.
[56:58] muted.
[57:02] OK, it shouldn't be that difficult.
[57:04] I can't do it.
[57:05] That's not good.
[57:11] Randy, can you hear us?
[57:13] OK.
[57:13] OK.
[57:15] stay on yours because clearly I can't do this, I don't know, okay, ready,
[57:25] I miss what you said
[57:26] because
[57:30] if we can switch it to the audio being back through the middle of our platform
[57:34] valuable.
[57:40] Can you hear us now? Well, here let me do this. Can you hear us now?
[57:46] Can you hear us
[57:46] Randy? Yes, you can, okay, but we can't hear her.
[57:53] I might just be volume again, he just hit the screen.
[57:59] to the side, just over here.
[58:13] Thank you, this man.
[58:15] I'm out of the issue.
[58:16] I don't know why it's an issue too.
[58:26] Just don't see the, there it is.
[58:28] Maybe, no, that's the Zoom stuff.
[58:30] So you need the...
[58:34] Is there a volume on the lower right?
[58:36] Cheryl, see the buttons? Is there a volume there?
[58:40] There it is.
[58:41] There we go.
[58:42] Thank you.
[58:42] Can I be hearing?
[58:43] Yeah.
[58:44] Yeah.
[58:45] Now, okay.
[58:47] All right.
[58:48] All right.
[58:48] Here we go.
[58:50] Okay.
[58:50] All right.
[58:51] Thank you.
[58:52] Oh, no.
[58:53] You're welcome.
[58:53] Thank you, Cheryl.
[58:55] Okay.
[58:55] Now we are to Tim with the Treasurer's Update.
[59:00] Really short.
[59:02] I want to thank the chair for connecting me with other treasures.
[59:07] Four other treasures across the state.
[59:10] Just started email chain yesterday and I hope to ask questions and share some resources.
[59:20] The other piece, oh, I will not steal your thunder for the CCFAQ or did read that thoroughly and you can.
[59:29] I've made a checklist of all the things that we're supposed to do to form a financial entity,
[59:34] so that's all learning for me and I'll have more of the next time we meet.
[59:41] Any questions for Tim?
[59:43] No, I just wanted to say thank you to Tim for dealing with this thing.
[59:47] I appreciate your optimism of my cafe.
[59:51] That's all I had to ask.
[59:55] It is, it's a, yes, it is because like that.
[1:00:00] Without what the next steps that you're having to do on that checklist, it's going to be really hard for us to do our jobs.
[1:00:08] Thank you.
[1:00:08] Should I slow down?
[1:00:12] I don't know. That's a good question, too.
[1:00:15] Chair's report. I just wanted to make sure that everybody had access to the CSO FAQs.
[1:00:22] Though they are listed as draft on the link, they are actually up and running their official FAQs.
[1:00:29] They came about as a result of two meetings with the agency of education.
[1:00:37] The chairs of the other six entities within the state reviewed them and gave them, gave the feedback to the AOE, they rewrote them.
[1:00:48] So we were able to learn a little bit more about what this entity is taking on as a, for education in Vermont.
[1:00:58] The other thing that came out of that meeting, or a series of meetings was the collaboration
[1:01:06] among the six other chairs, slash co-chairs of the ceases.
[1:01:14] We had our first meeting yesterday, and we're just gave everybody, or gave each other,
[1:01:20] updates as to where we were in our process, and it seems to me like many of our colleagues
[1:01:28] are going, you know, they're kind of at the same point, but they also shared your frustration
[1:01:36] in that we're being left to our own devices to do seven different ways of doing things.
[1:01:43] So I think by holding these meetings and by the treasurers holding their meetings, we are going
[1:01:49] to work together to really streamline the amount of work that individuals have to do in order
[1:01:57] to get these bodies up and running.
[1:02:01] So they expressed interest in our bylaws,
[1:02:04] they expressed interest in our asset mapping program, too.
[1:02:08] So I will be sharing back with them what it is that we've
[1:02:13] created.
[1:02:15] We have now scheduled, regularly scheduled meetings that
[1:02:20] will occur monthly.
[1:02:22] And I think I'm going to ask if we can have like a short meeting
[1:02:26] with each other at our all-soups meeting next week.
[1:02:32] And Tim, thank you for reaching out to the other treasurers.
[1:02:35] I know that there's something that we talked about last time
[1:02:38] that has now come to fruition.
[1:02:41] That's really it.
[1:02:45] So onto the next things, items for future meetings.
[1:02:50] I do have a request.
[1:02:53] As we have our first scheduled,
[1:02:56] But we have our first invitation out to meet with legislators in November, and it would be really helpful.
[1:03:02] I'm probably going to jump a little bit here.
[1:03:04] Maybe out of next week's all-member meeting.
[1:03:06] If we had some talking points with regards to ceases for them, and for Medicaid.
[1:03:14] I know that's not for per view of here, but just consideration, as well.
[1:03:18] Many of us will be sitting together next week.
[1:03:21] What I have encountered is on the ceases, since this is the meeting.
[1:03:25] I have legislators who really don't understand what was asked of us and so some considerations, some points, some consistency in non-education speak for folks to understand.
[1:03:43] So, in asking for clarification, so talking points of what how much or what we are doing to set up the ceases on top of our regular roles.
[1:03:55] and then also on the new Medicaid process.
[1:04:04] I am trying to figure out how I am going to explain to my local school boards.
[1:04:09] The potential for loss of revenue,
[1:04:12] reallocation of resources, using of staff time,
[1:04:16] and any collaboration that we can do as a group
[1:04:20] would be really helpful.
[1:04:21] And again, it goes to that consistency,
[1:04:23] which we've talked about, and that's work already.
[1:04:32] Chris, I think this is the, you brought up an additional meeting for...
[1:04:38] Um...
[1:04:38] Yeah.
[1:04:39] Because, uh...
[1:04:40] Supervisor Deans, we will be a provenance budget November,
[1:04:44] and as part of that, we would need to know, uh...
[1:04:47] what the cost would be for ceases.
[1:04:49] So we need additional meeting just to develop or operating budget.
[1:04:55] Um...
[1:04:55] Does anybody, so...
[1:04:58] So between October meeting between the middle of October and middle of November, is that
[1:05:04] or do you when should that meeting take place?
[1:05:07] I don't think it could take place whenever it was.
[1:05:14] Yeah.
[1:05:14] I don't think we have to wait for after the next meeting.
[1:05:17] Is the operating budget operating budget?
[1:05:19] We're just going to discuss how we're all going to pay for the operating budget.
[1:05:24] Okay.
[1:05:24] So yeah, we're just, we're just saying the operating budget is X. How now, how are we going to do it with X?
[1:05:32] I don't think it necessarily means to wait.
[1:05:37] Do we want to look at our calendars now?
[1:05:39] Sure.
[1:05:43] We don't have anybody playing along at home so that they could share their calendars too.
[1:05:48] Yeah, good luck with the calendars.
[1:05:50] I mean, you've been no one worth fitting murder meetings and you know, it's good.
[1:05:56] You know, I know.
[1:05:57] I don't need to sprung on us, but there's no night's left.
[1:06:03] Right.
[1:06:10] How about, does anybody, how about the 30th of September in the morning?
[1:06:15] I was just going to say that.
[1:06:17] I think that.
[1:06:18] I'm sorry, I think we just think about a little bit about what a day you're going to start
[1:06:21] So I'm having a hard time hearing you as I'm not sure how you've got to wear that.
[1:06:28] Okay, so we're talking about scheduling a meeting to do two things.
[1:06:34] One, it's to talk about how our individual districts, SUs, will pay for whatever the amount
[1:06:46] is that we're going to allocate for operating expenses next year for our CISA. So that's
[1:06:55] number one. And then number two, at that same meeting, we can invite anybody who is potentially
[1:07:04] going to help with the asset mapping so we can go through the spreadsheet that we can go
[1:07:08] through the template so people know what to enter and where.
[1:07:12] So the kickoff meeting for that. Correct.
[1:07:19] And is this virtual or in person?
[1:07:24] So I think we
[1:07:26] can make it virtual as long as this place.
[1:07:30] This is reserved so if anybody wants to come, they can come.
[1:07:35] Okay, we can do that.
[1:07:36] Is that acceptable? Is that okay with open meeting rules?
[1:07:43] Okay.
[1:07:44] What's on the 30th?
[1:07:46] Where do you think we're going to?
[1:07:47] I mean, is 8 to 10 okay for everybody?
[1:07:51] Works from there.
[1:07:57] All right, did you start on the day?
[1:07:59] September 30th?
[1:08:04] So we need to warn the meeting.
[1:08:06] Yes.
[1:08:09] All right, eight to ten, virtually, eight percent of the patient at lower, yes.
[1:08:20] So Cheryl, that means you're going to be in here.
[1:08:24] Anyone's welcome to join us.
[1:08:32] Anything else for future meetings?
[1:08:40] So it sounds like at the next meeting, we'll do bylaws, boat on bylaws, and the operating budget.
[1:08:46] Yes, and a check-in on, and a check-in on where we are with the asset mapping, and yeah, and then our updates.
[1:09:02] Well, will we have applied for the grant by then probably not, right?
[1:09:10] If we apply from the grant, well, the other ideas that we would have to designate a fiscal agent until we're able to get all of those things in place.
[1:09:20] So until we have a fiscal agent, and we might have to place
[1:09:25] in the bottle to determine who is going to be the fiscal agent.
[1:09:30] Unless somebody's willing to volunteer to do that.
[1:09:32] I'm just wondering, and now to put Tim on the spot.
[1:09:35] But as the pressure, I'm just kidding, you just need to be the person.
[1:09:39] We're going to have a spirit of conversation.
[1:09:42] No, what worries me about one of us saying they'll be the fiscal agent.
[1:09:47] that means that your business office is taking on the work that is associated with all of that.
[1:09:54] I want to give them a statement.
[1:09:58] Yeah, that.
[1:09:59] I'm top of using that for legal fees and everything else.
[1:10:02] Yeah, 15,000 people like that.
[1:10:04] And doesn't it be, well, there, yes, there's reimbursement, but that's additional work, right?
[1:10:08] It's fine for the reimbursement.
[1:10:14] So yeah, so I think we can have that discussion
[1:10:18] at our October meeting because that I'm thinking then once we apply for the grant we should
[1:10:29] consider, are we going to be hiring a part-time director with that $50,000 for the spring to kind
[1:10:36] of get us up and running. So what is that job description and all of that? That is also reimbursement
[1:10:44] right, the 50,000. So, well, it gets reimbursed. Is it reimbursement? Or is it reimbursed?
[1:10:51] So, that's a question. Is it reimbursement in that case, whoever is the fiscal agent, or our school district,
[1:10:58] expected to front of the money and then be a reimbursed. And if so, that is, that is not
[1:11:05] the best of the chat because reading the FAQ, the 15,000, I remember reimbursed and
[1:11:16] coming out, I remember the executive driver. Yeah, but even if we're going to hire somebody
[1:11:23] part-time, we would need to have a job description, advertising, all of that. If only there
[1:11:30] template. It's only, oh sorry.
[1:11:36] So yeah, so to get the 50,000, we have to have, we have
[1:11:41] to be an active entity registration in SAM.gov, a U-E-I number, and complete the central
[1:11:48] data in GMS, including submitting insurance certificates and a G-E-P-A4274. So that's a lot of work to do.
[1:11:56] That's a lot of work to do before we even can consider going to get a director.
[1:12:02] So that's all to act.
[1:12:04] So maybe can we access the $50,000 next year is it just this year?
[1:12:11] Yeah, yeah, that's in there.
[1:12:12] You can access it next year.
[1:12:15] Yeah.
[1:12:15] So I want to consider all of that with our budget.
[1:12:18] I'm hearing you say broke.
[1:12:19] It's maybe a measured approach to it.
[1:12:21] I don't believe it.
[1:12:23] I'm okay with a measure to approach because I think we're going to spend a lot of time chatting about
[1:12:31] We can at least at the next
[1:12:33] In our October meeting provide a checklist for everybody to see like as you said you're reading some of it and some of it's recondent
[1:12:40] But there's other things in that I think you too that you're
[1:12:43] Hey, you got your legal fee. How you set that up so I can at least I'm a visual person. I'll bring a visual of like
[1:12:48] Hey, here's the checklist. You'll look at what I said
[1:12:52] Sounds good
[1:12:53] I think the only issue I just realized for me is my board meeting isn't until after our October 16th, CISA.
[1:13:05] So I'm not going to have feedback from my board, but I feel like for me it's the base membership fee.
[1:13:14] So that hybrid 50-50-25-something isn't really the fee is the fee.
[1:13:20] right. So I think that's okay. Okay,
[1:13:29] so we'll move on to our next item which is public comment.
[1:13:33] Is there anybody here who would like to give public comment to our Southwest Sisa at this time?
[1:13:49] All right with there being none. Our next meeting actually has was is no longer the October 16th.
[1:13:56] Our next meeting is actually September 30th at 8 in the morning.
[1:14:03] It will take place online with an in-person option of being available in this room.
[1:14:13] And with that, I will take a motion for adjournment.
[1:14:16] Some of the second.
[1:14:18] All right.
[1:14:19] We are concluding our meeting at 9.29 a.m.
[1:14:24] Thank you, everyone.