1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,520 Want to welcome everybody out to 2 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:02,760 planning and zoning commission meeting 3 00:00:02,760 --> 00:00:05,400 for June 3rd. 4 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,080 We'll start the meeting with the pledge. 5 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,200 I'll lead it. 6 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,920 The audience will please rise. 7 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,960 Repeat after me. 8 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,920 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the 9 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:20,240 United States of America, 10 00:00:20,240 --> 00:00:22,960 and to the republic for which it stands, 11 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,040 one nation under God, 12 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,360 indivisible, with liberty and justice 13 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:31,870 for all. 14 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,080 Thank you. 15 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,080 Um our first 16 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:37,760 item of business tonight will be the 17 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,200 approval of the minutes. 18 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,200 I know Mike said he read them. Do you 19 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,400 >> I did. I made it through. 20 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:45,920 >> Do I have a motion to accept the 21 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:46,600 minutes? 22 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,040 >> I will make that motion. 23 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,000 >> Second. 24 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,720 >> Motion second, all in favor? 25 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,200 >> Aye. 26 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:55,600 >> Ordered. 27 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,880 Um our first item of business is the 28 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,480 public hearing. 29 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,440 Um title 15 amendment for flood damage 30 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:09,190 prevention. 31 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,600 » Um this amendment, or I guess change, is 32 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:14,520 pretty straightforward. So, FEMA has 33 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,800 recently updated their um study and 34 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,800 flood insurance maps. 35 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,040 Uh previously we referenced the date of 36 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,040 uh in 2020 for that study. We've uh the 37 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:27,720 change that we've made here is updating 38 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:28,800 to 39 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,000 their more recent study of this year, um 40 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,640 which is adopted in June of this month 41 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,000 of uh 42 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,560 26. 43 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:40,320 Uh along with that, they've added some 44 00:01:40,320 --> 00:01:42,200 definitions that they would like us to 45 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,560 add. Um 46 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,280 updating, I guess, existing home 47 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,800 subdivisions. Um they talk a bit about 48 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,560 geotechnical reports, but 49 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:56,960 uh pretty minimal changes. Uh mostly 50 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,160 just reference to an updated study that 51 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:06,830 they've done. 52 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,240 I don't know if there's any questions 53 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,710 about any of that. 54 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,920 » Any questions? 55 00:02:14,920 --> 00:02:16,200 No question. 56 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:17,400 Here. 57 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,680 Are we looking at on my 58 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:21,560 what the proposal is are we 59 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:26,390 looking for approval or recommendation? 60 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,080 Oh, you're so right. 61 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:30,080 Um this is a public hearing. If 62 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,320 anybody's here to speak on this matter, 63 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,870 we'd love to hear from you. 64 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,840 Seeing none, we'll close public hearing. 65 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:38,920 And then I'll ask that same question 66 00:02:38,920 --> 00:02:40,680 again. What type of motion we're looking 67 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:41,320 for? 68 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:43,680 >> We're recommending these changes to the 69 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:44,840 city council. 70 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:49,030 >> Thank you. 71 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,400 I'll make a motion. 72 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,760 >> I moved that we recommend the title 15 73 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,160 amendments flood damage prevention to 74 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,560 the city council. 75 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:00,760 >> I'll make a motion. Do I have a second? 76 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:01,959 >> Second. 77 00:03:01,959 --> 00:03:04,000 >> The motion is second. All in favor? 78 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:05,000 >> I. 79 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,760 >> Any opposed? 80 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:09,800 Okay, the recommendation is approved or 81 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,600 approved to go to the council. 82 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,640 Um our second item of business is also a 83 00:03:15,640 --> 00:03:17,000 public hearing. 84 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:18,519 It is 85 00:03:18,519 --> 00:03:23,750 uh construction standard revisions. 86 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,120 » All right. So, twice a year we um 87 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:28,680 take a look well, we're always looking 88 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,519 at our construction standards, but twice 89 00:03:30,519 --> 00:03:31,959 a year we'll bring 90 00:03:31,959 --> 00:03:34,600 um them here for revision and changes 91 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,000 that have been made. 92 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,200 Um 93 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,160 So, this go around, if you can see in 94 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:40,519 the background, there's a little bit of 95 00:03:40,519 --> 00:03:42,640 a summary of things that have changed 96 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,239 here. Um 97 00:03:45,239 --> 00:03:47,640 boring inspections and testing, uh 98 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:49,920 modifying our communication plan just 99 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,840 because of some updates to staff, 100 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:55,320 um modifies 101 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:58,320 some of the sewer language um around 102 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,640 manhole requirements and depths of 103 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,120 sewer. 104 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,160 Uh another change that we've made is not 105 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:07,120 allowing inlets 106 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:07,920 um 107 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,959 in driveways on commercial properties. 108 00:04:10,959 --> 00:04:13,160 Uh that's just because of issues that we 109 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,160 see as larger trucks are driving over 110 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,440 the top of those, so 111 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,280 I wanted to get those out of that area. 112 00:04:20,280 --> 00:04:22,960 Um and then a lot of modifications to 113 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,160 electrical standards. A lot of those are 114 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:26,760 cleanup 115 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,040 uh to text um clarifying maybe some 116 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,160 outdated equipment or 117 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:34,640 um 118 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,400 a language that uh references 119 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,720 standards or um 120 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,200 methods of installation that we don't 121 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:43,680 use anymore. 122 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:46,320 And then uh towards the end we also have 123 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,520 some changes to standard drawings. 124 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,880 Uh most of those as well are are cleanup 125 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,120 items 126 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,280 um as well as changing to some newer 127 00:04:56,280 --> 00:04:58,280 equipment, newer methods of installation 128 00:04:58,280 --> 00:04:59,960 that we've been using. 129 00:04:59,960 --> 00:05:01,120 Um 130 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,840 and a lot of these are just coming from 131 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:06,120 our inspectors and work out in the field 132 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,560 as we see things that need to be updated 133 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:14,120 or better manner of installation, we'll update these. So, nothing major or 134 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,280 no huge overhauls, but just some I would 135 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:20,360 classify this as kind of some tweaks to 136 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,400 the standards to hopefully do things a 137 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,400 little more efficiently and and get 138 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:26,560 things up to 139 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,590 current standard. 140 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:30,720 Um 141 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,440 happy to scroll through if we want to 142 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,840 look at anything specifically or 143 00:05:34,840 --> 00:05:35,840 >> Why don't we just scroll through and hit 144 00:05:35,840 --> 00:05:36,480 the highlights? 145 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,710 >> Yeah. 146 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,800 Um so here this is just the section on 147 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,120 boring outlining 148 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,040 um what we are going to require as 149 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,120 utilities are bored under roads or 150 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:51,960 canals, rivers. 151 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,880 Um just some of the information that 152 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,720 we're going to ask that the contractor 153 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,920 provide once those borings are complete 154 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,400 so that we can 155 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,040 document those and make sure that we 156 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:05,160 know uh where those are in the future. 157 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:06,800 Uh this table here, you can see this 158 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:08,440 update to 159 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,800 uh some city staff for communicating on 160 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:18,990 excavation permits. 161 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:22,000 Um this is the update to 162 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,280 sewer. 163 00:06:24,280 --> 00:06:25,800 So, 164 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,880 kind of referencing the minimum depth 165 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,880 and then manhole sizing. 166 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:31,480 >> Yeah, I had a question about directional 167 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:32,919 change and that's just my 168 00:06:32,919 --> 00:06:34,840 ignorance. What is that referring to on 169 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:35,160 the road? [snorts] 170 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,200 >> So, directional change would be 171 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:39,840 you kind of have a sewer coming in from 172 00:06:39,840 --> 00:06:44,160 the north and you turn east or west or 173 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,560 anything from going straight on. We just 174 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,800 want that bigger manhole um because of 175 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,919 the angle that the sewer comes in and 176 00:06:50,919 --> 00:06:52,120 leaves. 177 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,320 It's a little bit harder to get in there 178 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,000 and work on a smaller manhole, so that's 179 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:57,840 why we're requiring a 5-ft manhole to 180 00:06:57,840 --> 00:06:59,800 get down there and 181 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,600 um some of those turns, if they get too 182 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,680 tight in a smaller manhole as well, it 183 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,240 affects the structural integrity of the 184 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:15,630 structure, so. 185 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:19,240 Um yeah, there's mention of the inlets, 186 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,390 driveways. 187 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,040 And this kind of gets into just the 188 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,480 electrical updates. A lot of this is 189 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:29,990 language and 190 00:07:29,990 --> 00:07:31,160 >> [clears throat] 191 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:39,190 >> and wording there. 192 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,760 Um here, we're talking about clearances 193 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,240 from electrical lines, so not allowing 194 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,760 buildings to be constructed or installed 195 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,440 underneath those lines, and then 196 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,750 um 197 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,200 talking about clear zone from those 198 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,400 lines, a safety issue there. 199 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,280 >> Can Can we go up uh to page eight? There 200 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,160 was one question I had. It's the 201 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:06,200 previous one, I think. I I guess 202 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,920 showing even Adobe over here. 203 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:15,710 One One more One more before this. 204 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:19,710 It is 205 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:20,600 I don't know. Maybe I'm finding the 206 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:37,990 wrong part. Give me a second. 207 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:42,400 Okay. Yeah, the page it's it's shows page 12 on there. Okay, so I 208 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,360 guess we're a couple pages down. 209 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:46,839 Go down uh to 210 00:08:46,839 --> 00:08:48,560 >> more. 211 00:08:48,560 --> 00:08:52,950 >> Yeah, keep going. 212 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,480 Okay, yeah, this one in E, soils and 213 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,360 compaction. 214 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,680 Um there was one line I It's just a couple things you changed 215 00:09:00,680 --> 00:09:01,680 here, but I have a question here. It 216 00:09:01,680 --> 00:09:04,000 says "Compaction test shall be taken by 217 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,120 the city." And you got rid of the city. 218 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,120 You changed it to Spanish Fork. 219 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:09,040 Um 220 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,760 and then 221 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,320 Let's see if I'm seeing this different. 222 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:16,240 Oh, no, that's not what I'm looking for. 223 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,600 I'm not exactly sure where or what I'm 224 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,560 looking for is, but the point I'm making 225 00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:21,160 is there's one place where we're looking 226 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,000 basically where we're no longer 227 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:24,920 requiring the city to do the approval. 228 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,200 It could be an approved engineering 229 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:28,280 um 230 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:29,200 firm. 231 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:29,720 And I've got 232 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:29,856 >> Yeah. 233 00:09:29,856 --> 00:09:31,040 >> [clears throat] 234 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,839 >> We 235 00:09:32,839 --> 00:09:33,640 >> So that's sort of a job 236 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,480 >> Yeah, I'm not sure exactly where that 237 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,240 is, either, but we do hire we do hire an 238 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:39,680 engineering firm that does our 239 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:41,680 compaction and testing and 240 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:44,200 >> So you So the city would be contracted 241 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:45,800 It wouldn't be the 242 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,720 >> Correct. Yeah, it wouldn't be a 243 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,440 developer's engineer that could approve 244 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,480 it. It would be either the city or an 245 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:53,160 engineer hired by the city. 246 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:55,000 >> Okay. Okay, that was my only question 247 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:56,560 cuz sometimes I I I guess the general 248 00:09:56,560 --> 00:09:58,360 concern I have sometimes is if 249 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:00,720 developers are sort of you know 250 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,160 financially involved in those to approve 251 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,560 their own process. It can 252 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:05,960 be a conflict of interest. That's the 253 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:07,520 only thing and and I think I just 254 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:08,600 misread that. So 255 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:10,040 >> Yeah, no that's what it is there. It 256 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:14,310 would be an engineer hired by the city. 257 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:15,760 » And Paul, I've not I mean all the years 258 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,000 I've been doing construction I'm not 259 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,240 city inspectors or third-party 260 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,800 inspectors that cities hire. 261 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:23,920 They're 262 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,760 I've rarely I've never seen them 263 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,280 influenced by the developer. They've 264 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:31,950 always stuck to what they should do. 265 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,200 » Yeah, I think I've just got a little 266 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,040 hesitation with I've seen some things 267 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,520 the legislature has done to try to 268 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,000 reduce housing prices which again I 269 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,680 support reduced housing prices but I 270 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:41,760 think they've 271 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:42,880 you know 272 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,200 been creative in some of the things 273 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:45,800 they've done there. So 274 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,440 >> Politicians and developers 275 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,722 >> They're always counterproductive. 276 00:10:51,732 --> 00:11:04,630 » [clears throat] 277 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:07,320 » Maybe if we want to go down to 278 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,440 uh the standard drawings take a look at 279 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:24,070 some of those changes as well. 280 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:28,440 Um so here just you know a note 281 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,032 on our metering. 282 00:11:31,032 --> 00:11:36,230 >> [clears throat] 283 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,800 » Um this is some notes there to help with 284 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,720 tracer wire, which is 285 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,640 relatively new, maybe the last year or 286 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,360 so, something we've been installing. And 287 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:46,440 this is 288 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,920 just a way to install that so we can 289 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,640 easily access it and then 290 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,440 the elevation there on the fire hydrant, 291 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,200 make sure that breakaway is at the 292 00:11:56,200 --> 00:12:03,870 correct elevation. 293 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,760 Um 294 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,680 yeah, a meter lid note there. 295 00:12:07,680 --> 00:12:12,470 >> Water meter. 296 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,520 » Okay, same thing there, a few minor 297 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:23,390 notes and changes to our meter boxes. 298 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:25,560 Just some notes to curbing there, and 299 00:12:25,560 --> 00:12:28,000 this is an update to our 300 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:31,040 tree standard requiring mulch and taking 301 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:32,800 out the uh 302 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:43,470 rock mulch. 303 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,680 And then those were just two new filter 304 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:49,440 drawings that we've added for PI, so. 305 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,280 And then these uh these updates to these 306 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,360 electrical drawings, um a lot of them 307 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,000 tie back to the updates in the in the 308 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:02,590 text. 309 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:04,839 Uh a lot of just installation notes and 310 00:13:04,839 --> 00:13:07,480 then some notes on concrete pads that 311 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:57,744 are used for this equipment as well. 312 00:13:57,754 --> 00:14:00,430 » [snorts] 313 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:01,920 » Are we close to the end? 314 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:03,000 >> I think close. 315 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:03,880 >> I like the old department. 316 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:08,710 >> Power department's been busy. 317 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,720 Any questions after scrolling through? 318 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,164 >> 140 pages. 319 00:14:12,164 --> 00:14:13,840 >> [laughter] 320 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,720 >> Yeah. 321 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:17,400 >> All right. One more thing, sir. I'm the 322 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:19,960 only one to ask. 323 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,960 We do have um 324 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:24,560 we have the the street lights and it 325 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:25,720 looks like there's kind of a standard 326 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:27,360 that we we go with. I I don't know that 327 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,640 anything's necessarily been changed, but 328 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,360 I assume that uh we regularly update 329 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,800 that sort of based on 330 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:35,600 I don't know what it is. It's just kind 331 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,240 of a design 332 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:38,320 uh 333 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,560 era that we have or something like that. 334 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:41,839 >> On the street lights? 335 00:14:41,839 --> 00:14:42,760 >> Yeah. 336 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:44,000 Cuz you you know, the ones we have right 337 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,240 now are decorative. I think there's one 338 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,600 on page 61. 339 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:49,920 Yeah, right there. 340 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:51,160 And that's obviously what I'm seeing 341 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,080 being built right now. How how often do 342 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,360 we go through and sort of refresh that? 343 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:55,040 It doesn't look like we're 344 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,760 >> making changes here or anything. 345 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,560 >> the foundation there. I style Are you 346 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:00,839 saying style-wise? 347 00:15:00,839 --> 00:15:03,310 >> Yeah. 348 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:05,600 » I don't know when the last time we did 349 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,200 was. I mean, 350 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,320 probably years. We do require that 351 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,640 developers will do like a photometric 352 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,000 plan for lighting and 353 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,040 seems like the updates we make are more 354 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,080 related to lighting 355 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,080 and how that light spread and 356 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:27,200 you know, type of light pole, how that puts out 357 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:27,840 light, but 358 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,120 >> Yeah. And and the and the sort of 359 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,440 directive for dark skies and things like 360 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:34,400 that. 361 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:36,160 >> Okay. Yeah, and I know again, not 362 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,360 addressed here, but you can kind of tell 363 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:39,640 the age of a neighborhood or when they 364 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:40,880 came through. It seems like they've even 365 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,000 been redoing some of those in and in 366 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,840 older neighborhoods, too. Some of the lights as well. 367 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,080 >> Yeah. 368 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:48,720 I'm not 369 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:51,200 completely sure how often 370 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,120 take a look at those, but 371 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:58,950 they do occasionally get updated. 372 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:00,280 » Great. Well, thank you. 373 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:01,000 >> Yeah. 374 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:01,080 >> Yep. 375 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,400 >> I mean, like like we talked about 376 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,760 previously, I'm 377 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,680 encouraged and impressed that the city 378 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:07,800 takes the look they do at all the 379 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:09,680 standards all the time and 380 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:10,320 uh 381 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:11,800 are continuously monitoring that to make 382 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,240 sure we stay up with what's the latest 383 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,560 for safety and best building practices 384 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:17,240 and all those things. That's That's very 385 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,040 encouraging and good to see. 386 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,760 This is a public hearing, uh so we'll 387 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:22,760 open up to public. 388 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:26,431 You really don't want to say anything? 389 00:16:26,441 --> 00:16:26,880 » [laughter] 390 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:28,760 >> Okay. Seeing none, we'll close the 391 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:30,200 public hearing. 392 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:31,880 Um 393 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:33,360 do you guys have I don't think you ever 394 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:34,400 had a chance to say anything they 395 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,360 wanted, so probably no questions. There 396 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:37,000 is. Okay. 397 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:37,880 >> I asked all mine. 398 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:38,960 >> All right, great. 399 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,360 >> All makes sense. 400 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,200 >> Uh somebody want to put forth the 401 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:48,230 motion? 402 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,320 » What was What do we need to put on the 403 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:52,000 motion? What do 404 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:58,870 >> Same as before. 405 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:00,640 It's a recommendation to recommend for 406 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:01,720 approval to the council. 407 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,200 >> Okay. Yeah, I'll make a motion to 408 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:05,319 recommend the approve 409 00:17:05,319 --> 00:17:07,160 ordinance to revise the construction 410 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,839 standards. 411 00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:11,439 Move forward to the council. 412 00:17:11,439 --> 00:17:13,439 >> I will second that motion. 413 00:17:13,439 --> 00:17:15,640 >> Motion is second. All in favor? 414 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:16,520 >> Aye. 415 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,560 >> Any opposed? 416 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:19,400 Okay. 417 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:20,800 Thank you. 418 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,560 Our next [snorts] item of business is to 419 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:24,520 adjourn. 420 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,079 >> I move we adjourn. 421 00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:28,439 >> Hang on. 422 00:17:28,439 --> 00:17:29,080 >> Oh, wait. Dave. 423 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:29,960 >> Do you want to speak first? 424 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,200 >> Do you have something for us? 425 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,480 >> Your call. 426 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,080 If you want to say go ahead. Mike's 427 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:35,440 still got 428 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:36,080 10 minutes. 429 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:36,360 >> Okay. 430 00:17:36,360 --> 00:17:38,240 >> So. 431 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,160 >> I'm only going to take a minute tonight. 432 00:17:40,160 --> 00:17:41,120 I probably want to take a little bit 433 00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:42,640 more time later. 434 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:44,600 Um you know, maybe in July like we 435 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,400 talked about, 436 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,640 uh it was August of 2019 437 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,000 when Todd joined the Planning 438 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,280 Commission, 439 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,600 which means he really should have been 440 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:54,920 replaced 441 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:57,400 about 11 months ago. So, he's he's stuck 442 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:58,520 around 443 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,880 for longer than most and uh we 444 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,360 appreciate everybody's service all the 445 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:03,640 time. We particularly appreciate it when 446 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,840 somebody goes the extra mile 447 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:06,720 with 448 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,680 uh for that additional number of 449 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:09,920 meetings, 450 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,680 uh nights away from family and other 451 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:13,880 obligations and that type of a thing. 452 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,240 Um 453 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:17,640 Spoke with Mayor Mendenhall briefly this 454 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,920 afternoon. He may have somebody in mind 455 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,440 to replace Commissioner Mitchell. So, I 456 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,240 appreciate that 457 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,920 uh Todd, you've been willing to stick 458 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,120 around like you have. 459 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:27,400 >> Mhm. 460 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,000 >> Um and yet uh 461 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:30,840 um 462 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,360 boy, you've done your time. So, with 463 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:35,480 some sadness, sorry to see you leave, 464 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:36,600 but I think that's likely going to be 465 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:38,440 the case. And I apologize to maybe 466 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:39,600 spring this on you this way. 467 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:40,360 >> No, that's great. 468 00:18:40,360 --> 00:18:42,040 >> Um but I wanted to take a minute 469 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:43,160 >> You ain't going to spring on me. 470 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:44,880 >> In this forum? [laughter] 471 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,640 with us here and there'll be other times 472 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,280 to reminisce and talk about things and 473 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:50,720 that sort of a thing. 474 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,560 Um but wanted to share that uh and 475 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,840 express my appreciation 476 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,520 on behalf of all of us on staff. Uh 477 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,200 we've always been fortunate to have 478 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:01,520 great planning commissions here in 479 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:02,920 Spanish Fork 480 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:05,160 and that's part of what makes this place 481 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,400 work the way that it does. So, 482 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,720 um that's a big deal for us and uh yeah, 483 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:12,640 thank you. 484 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:13,080 That's it. 485 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:14,880 >> I would I would ditto that. He's he I've 486 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,480 learned a ton from him just in the last 487 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,840 few years and he's been fantastic, so. 488 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,240 >> Well, then I appreciate your 489 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,440 insight and expertise and 490 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,360 I also appreciate your encouraging 491 00:19:26,360 --> 00:19:28,320 everyone to share all our diverse 492 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:30,000 opinions. That's one thing I really 493 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,600 appreciate it, too. So, thank you, 494 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:32,840 Commissioner. 495 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,480 >> Yeah, I'll make a comment. I like the spirited agreements and the spirited 496 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:37,960 disagreements. 497 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,480 And I think you bring a lot of a 498 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:44,200 gravitas here to the to the process and a lot of structure and you're great 499 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:45,440 to work with. And so, I think 500 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,480 >> Big shoes to fill. 501 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:48,120 >> Yeah. 502 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:49,600 >> Your 503 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:53,670 experience and knowledge will be missed. 504 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,150 » All right. 505 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,360 Nature hates a vacuum and it'll fill up 506 00:19:57,360 --> 00:19:59,040 real quick. 507 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,120 Thank you. Appreciate it. 508 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:02,680 That's great. Now, can we go on to my 509 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,213 favorite topic? 510 00:20:05,213 --> 00:20:06,480 >> [laughter] 511 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,640 >> Okay, the next item is adjourning. 512 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:09,720 >> I move to adjourn. 513 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:10,440 >> Second. 514 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,120 >> A motion and a second. All in favor? 515 00:20:12,120 --> 00:20:13,680 >> Aye. 516 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,920 >> Good.