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Okay, we're ready to go for Spanish Fork

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City Council meeting August 4th, 2026.

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Thanks for everybody for coming. You'll

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have to excuse the council tonight a

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little bit. We are looking at a

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different look on our council agendas.

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It's the same stuff, but it's in

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different boxes and everything. And

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>> we're lost.

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>> Some of us,

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>> Jesse's the only one comfortable with

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us. So, so if we if we look like we're

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lost a little bit, uh it's because we're

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clicking around a new system up here.

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>> If you've read the organizational book,

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Who Moved My Cheese? We did. [snorts]

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And it's fun. Every once in a while,

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staff can be mean. And today's one of

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those days.

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>> And that not knocking it. It was a

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necessity that we do this, right? That

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the old system was going

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>> away. Yes.

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>> So, we didn't do this.

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>> I had no choice

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>> just to mess with Councilman Oiler. It

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was Yeah. It was because because we had

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to do this. So,

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>> don't like change.

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>> He doesn't like change.

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>> Okay. So, thank you. Thank you everybody

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in person. Thank you everybody online

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for joining us. We we will not change

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how we start our meeting with a prayer

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motivational message by Councilman Tuk

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and then Councilman Oiler will lead us

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in the pledge. Councilman Tuk.

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>> All right. Thank you, Mayor. So, this

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evening for the inspirational thought

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and prayer for the city, I invited uh

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one of my dear friends and a champion of

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Spanish Fork City u in many ways. if you

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know this individual, Susan Chapman, uh

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dear friend of mine and um just

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appreciate you accepting the invitation,

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Susan, and uh feel free to come up,

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share your thought and prayer, and thank

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you for being with us tonight.

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» Thank you. I did I did bring some notes.

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It's still brief. Don't worry, I'm not

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going to take too much time. Um but my

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name is Susan Chapman. A lot of you are

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familiar with me. I'm very grateful to

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be back here. Um, I was very grateful

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for Councilman Tuk to ask me to do this

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brief thought today. I wanted to start

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with a story. I grew up in Benjamin,

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west of Spanish Fork, the youngest of

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seven. My dad was the youngest of 11.

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When my dad was very young, he was about

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11 years old at this time. My

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grandfather got cancer. Uh, my

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grandfather left the hospital and jumped

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on a bus to go home because he knew that

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his time was short and that he would

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pass away soon. As it happened, um,

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let's see. As it happened, harvest time

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was nearing at the same time as my

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grandpa grew close to death. The family

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farm sustained them. It was their income

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and support. The family gathered around

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him, and as they sat together, almost

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like a scene out of a movie. They heard

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a commotion outside. When they looked

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out, they saw the town's people arriving

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with their tractors, their horses, their

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gloves, their hats, all ready, all ready

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to help bring in the harvest. The

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community pulled together and brought in

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the harvest for my grandparents family.

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When the work was done, my grandfather

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gathered the children, the 11 kids

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around his bed, and he said, "Always

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remember what this community has done

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for our family." That story's been

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passed on and told at dinner tables and

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front porches, and it's been told a lot

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because we have a very large posterity.

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[snorts] It didn't just shape shape my

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family, but it's shaped my own

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children's families. If this were only

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true for my family and this one

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community, this would be remarkable

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enough, but it's not unique, and that's

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what makes it more amazing. When

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Councilman Tuk asked me to share the

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share a thought, I found myself thinking

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about what I loved about Spanish Fork. I

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thought about the Fit City Center, the

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trails, the libraries, the amazing

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activities, the businesses, the

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restaurants, but the most the thing that

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I thought about the most um was and what

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stood out was the people. So, I put out

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a small a call on social media and asked

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if anybody had any experiences they

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wanted to share. Adam Gaul shared how he

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was once stranded in Mosquite after a

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concert with his family and his car had

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broken down. He called Jordan Hawks who

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drove down immediately with his big

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trailer and loaded his car and his kids

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and all of his belongings brought him

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home. Randy Chipman shared a story about

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his neighborhood. A house caught on fire

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while the parents were away. The

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children were asleep upstairs and no

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alarm was sounding. He broke in through

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the door. Dennis the Dennis McBra McGra,

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sorry, ran in and got out the kids out

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safely. What followed became a moment

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that brought the whole neighborhood

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closer as donations without even setting

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up a Venmo poured in um from neighbors

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and they neighbors showed up for one

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another. I have a neighbor who every

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time it snowed after I was recovering

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from my back injury, he cleared the

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driveway before I even woke up. Another

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time I saw a family struggling and I

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sent out a call for help and the people

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who responded in my neighborhood where

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people who think very different than I

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do and we're often on different sides of

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the issues, but that didn't matter. They

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showed up anyway. There is so much more

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that connects us than divides us. This

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community is living proof that Spanish

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Fork is in fact special and we all feel

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it. Someday this these stories um that

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we that I shared and all those that

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haven't been shared will be shared and

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told at dinner tables and on front

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porches passed down the same way my

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grandfather's story was passed down to

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me. What makes Spanish work remarkable

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despite our amazing trails and our

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library at city center and activities?

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It's the people. Um I want to use my

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personal freedom at this time to express

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gratitude for our community in the best

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way that I know how. if you'll join me

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in an expression of prayer and

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gratitude.

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Our dear father in heaven, we're so

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grateful for this amazing community.

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We're grateful for our city council

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members, our administration, our staff,

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our first responders. We ask you to

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please bless them. Please bless their

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families as they support our city. We

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ask you to please bless our community

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that it will be protected from natural

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disasters and harm. We ask that um we

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can continue to be united. Uh we say

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these things in the name of thy son

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Jesus Christ. Amen.

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>> Amen.

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>> Thank you Susan.

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>> Susan,

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>> please stand and join me in the pledge.

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>> I pledge algiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for it stands nationy

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andice for all.

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Good stuff. Thank you. Appreciate those

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thoughts. Uh we we got some recognitions

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uh tonight that we're excited to

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recognize some good people. Um Susan,

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while you're here, I'm going to kind of

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double dip that and just um recognize

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Susan as uh as a great contributor in in

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this community. um the the Fit City

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Center, a lot of the things that that

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you see happening in Spanish Fork to to

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be aware of of our general health, not

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just our physical health, but uh our our

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mental health. Uh Susan was a champion

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of that. Helped us get grant money where

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we didn't know grant money existed and

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uh and really helped us out getting the

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Fit City Fair started and everything

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else that uh that that has to do with a

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lot of health. And so I'm glad you're

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here tonight so we can recognize you and

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say thanks to you publicly uh and uh and do that along with some other

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recognitions. So Councilman Tuk, I'm

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giving you a kudos. Good choice. You did well.

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>> Thank you, Susan. Appreciate that.

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>> Um okay. Uh a couple of the other um

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recognitions that we have tonight. Uh,

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and it's fitting since we last met I

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think just prior to Fiesta Days and now

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Fiesta Days is over and uh you're

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already starting the next Fiesta Days,

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right Stacy? Committee is going to

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probably meet this month.

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>> Yep. We're meeting in two weeks.

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>> Insane.

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>> Debrief. [snorts]

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>> Okay. Well, these are this is is along

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with that theme. We'd like to invite Ace

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and Burke uh up here uh to the

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microphone. These are the Austin

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brothers. And uh if I'm u you guys can

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correct me if I'm I'm wrong and then

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tell me what's what's really going on,

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but uh we have a couple of high school

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rodeo champions here. Is that right?

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>> If you'll introduce yourselves and uh

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and tell us uh tell us what happened and

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when it happened.

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>> Um so I'm Burke Austin.

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>> I'm Ace Austin.

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>> Uh I'm 19 years old. I just graduated

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from Spanish Fork High.

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>> I'm 17. and I finished out my junior

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year this past May.

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>> Uh, and we just went to the National

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High School Finals in Lincoln, Nebraska.

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It [snorts] was July 19th through the

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26th. Uh, and we were able to

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[clears throat]

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have some good luck and

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>> I ended up winning the steer wrestling

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national title and the all-around

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national title.

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>> And I ended up being the reserve world

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champion in the steer wrestling and the

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reserve all-around cowboy.

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>> Wow.

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>> Back to back. to reserve. I mean,

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champion and reserve are just, you know,

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back to back, right?

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>> Yeah.

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>> So, Utah kind of took it.

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>> Spanish fork kind of took it. They did.

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>> Oh, [laughter] okay. Cool.

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>> That is cool.

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>> Yeah. Mom and and dad are are here,

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right?

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>> I recognize I know your parents. Yeah.

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I know these guys. I didn't know

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they produced good kids, but I knew

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[laughter]

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I knew these guys. Yeah. Yeah.

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>> Well, awesome. Any questions, council,

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for good cowboys here? I'm curious about

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how old were you guys when your dad made

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you first jump off a horse and tackle a

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stair?

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>> Um I think I was 14.

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>> 14 when you So you've been doing it

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three years. [laughter]

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>> I started it would have been

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>> your freshman year

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>> three weeks before school started my

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freshman year.

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>> Dang.

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>> Wow.

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>> And then I jumped the summer before my

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sophomore year. He made me wait one more

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year because I wasn't big enough.

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[laughter]

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>> So you wanted to jump off a horse onto a

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moving cow.

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>> Yes. [laughter]

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We we've grown up uh ground throwing is

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what it's called or shoot dogging. It's

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kind of your junior high level type of

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bulldoging. You just take them out of

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the shoot. Uh but

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>> like run next to them and

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>> Yeah. Yeah. And then we stepped up off

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to horses when we got into high school.

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>> All right. It's pretty cool.

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>> Very cool. Very big congratulations.

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>> That's super cool. Thanks for

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representing the community. Well,

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>> what's next? You going to

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>> College Bission? Okay.

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>> I'm going to Albuquerque, New Mexico. I

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leave August. I start August 19th and

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then after that I will be attending Utah

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Valley University on a rodeo

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scholarship.

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>> All right, cool.

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>> Very cool.

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>> They got any horses and steers in New

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Mexico or

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>> uh they got a lot of people that rodeo

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and ropes so maybe we'll make some.

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>> Okay, good.

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>> They have the best food in Albuquerque.

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>> Great food.

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>> You love it. [clears throat]

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>> It's amazing.

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>> So, when do we when should we expect to

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see you in our Fiesta Days rodeo? Is

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that something that's on your bucket

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list?

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>> If if the finals wasn't over Fiesta

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Days, I was actually going to enter. Uh,

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when I get home from my mission, I'll be

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trying to enter. Yes, it is. Yes.

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>> Are we getting an exemption? Can we make

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a mayor's exemption?

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>> I don't think we can. I mean, we can

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try. I think you should try. I just be okay if you get turned down, but

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>> Yeah. Yeah. All right.

323
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>> It's a PRCA thing. [laughter]

324
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>> So, sorry. Steer wrestling and what

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else?

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>> Uh, I made it to nationals in the steer

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wrestling, the calf rope, and the team

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rope.

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>> So, okay. You did all three round?

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>> Yeah. And then

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>> I made it in the steer wrestling and we

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team rope together.

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>> Yeah.

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Who's the head? Who's the heel?

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>> I head and

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>> I hill.

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>> So,

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who's the better of the two? And that's

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Ask Mom and Dad. You're not going to

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answer that.

341
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>> They're not going to answer.

342
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>> Yeah. I mean, who misses? If you're

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going to miss the head or the heel,

344
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who's going to miss?

345
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>> Probably me.

346
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>> No, don't say. Come on. Don't be too

347
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nice. [laughter]

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>> At least he's honest.

349
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>> He's like,

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[cough]

351
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>> tell you're close though. Like, you're

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just finishing each other's sentences

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and it's it's cool. I bet you work very

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well together out there doing

355
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>> he's considered my bigger little

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brother. Uh he's always been bigger than

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me for the most part. And it was

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something that's never been done uh what

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we did out of the high school finals. No

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one no one related has ever done gone

361
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one and two let alone brothers one and

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two.

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>> That's pretty dang cool.

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>> There has to be time when you're like

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wrestling each other in the dirt though.

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>> I mean you're not that nice to each

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other. Yeah. [laughter] Yeah.

368
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>> Sometimes practices get heated.

369
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>> Yeah. Okay. All right.

370
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>> So, did you guys miss fiesta days at

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all? You were gone the whole week?

372
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>> Gone the whole week.

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>> Laser focused on where you're at or

374
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>> Yeah.

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We left would have been the Friday

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before it started and got home the

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Sunday after.

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>> Darn it.

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>> Gez.

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>> Well, we wish you the best and hope you

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take a title home from our fiesta days

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arena one day.

383
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>> One day.

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>> Yeah. Thank you guys. Well, thanks for

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representing us and uh please come up

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here and Pete's a picture guy that likes

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to get a picture up here, but we want to

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give you a round of applause before you

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do that if you can.

390
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>> Thank you.

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» Congratulations.

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>> Great job. Congratulations.

393
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>> How you doing? It's good to see you.

394
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>> Well done.

395
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>> Get those two guys in the

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You guys surrounded

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pretty pretty cool. Pretty amazing.

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>> Good kids.

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>> Is dad a steer wrestler?

400
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>> Yeah. Grandpa.

401
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>> Yeah. Runs his family.

402
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>> Generational choice in [laughter]

403
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that way.

404
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>> You know when those parents put their

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kids on sheets and they're screaming and

406
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clawing? That was you.

407
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[laughter]

408
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>> They wanted to.

409
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>> Okay, here we go.

410
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>> Thank you.

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>> Congratulations, guys. Thank you.

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» Very cool stuff. And uh we'll get that

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picture, Pete, and get it up in the in

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the mayor's office. I'll have to sign it

415
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first, you know. Yeah.

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Okay. Uh thanks, uh Ace Burke. We

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appreciate that. Uh we have an employee

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of the quarter that we'd like to

419
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recognize now. And uh this is a good

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guy. We got a lot of good good guys in

421
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the guys and gals in in our workforce

422
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here in Spanish Fork. But it's always

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fun to recognize an employee of the

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quarter. I'm not sure who's getting up

425
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to recognize

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>> There he is. Mr. Hayward. Okay.

427
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pull out some of the references on on uh

428
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yeah so we are um

429
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or I should say one of my employees

430
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Brian Ridge um was recognized a lot of

431
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it from the library and I'm just going

432
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to read some of their comments here on

433
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some of the things that they said Brian

434
00:14:28,079 --> 00:14:29,680
Ridge saves their bacon at the library

435
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all the time he makes personal visits

436
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all the time to fix personnel personal

437
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staff computers public access computers

438
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printers, etc. And he lo knows lots of

439
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library staff names because he works

440
00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,519
with us so much. You would think he'd be

441
00:14:43,519 --> 00:14:45,199
sick of us by now, but he always comes

442
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in and says hi with a smile. And we're

443
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always excited to see him and eager to

444
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use his expertise for as long as we can

445
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manage to steal him from all the other

446
00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,440
people who need him. We know he's high

447
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in demand.

448
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Uh he says what this is one it says uh

449
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recognize him for exceptional service,

450
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professionalism and dedication he

451
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consistently demonstrates in support of

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our library staff. What sets him apart

453
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is not just his technical expertise but

454
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the way he delivers it with patience,

455
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responsiveness and genuine care.

456
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Whenever our team encounters technical

457
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issues, whether large or small, he

458
00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,839
responds quickly and works efficiently

459
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to resolve them with minimal disruption

460
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to our operations. His ability to

461
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troubleshoot under pressure while

462
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maintaining a calm and approachable

463
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demeanor has been in invaluable

464
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especially during moments of high stress

465
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when we rely heavily on technology to

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serve the public. Um just some of the

467
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comments I have is I've worked with him

468
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now for five years, six years and uh

469
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it's it's been a pleasure to work with

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him. He's he's always got a cheerful

471
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demeanor um within, you know, there's

472
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always times when people get frustrated

473
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and things like that, but he's he's very

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uh responsive. He does take care of the

475
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and works a lot of things. He helps

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support all the full-time staff um as

477
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well as the city council members um on

478
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the day-to-day stuff. And uh he does 95%

479
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of that work. And uh it's it's I

480
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appreciate it from my perspective

481
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because it means I don't have to do it,

482
00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,120
you know. Um [snorts] but uh I'd like to

483
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have him come up here now and say, you

484
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know, kind of recognize him because he's been a a great uh help for the city

485
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and and stuff. So thank you, Brian.

486
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[laughter]

487
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>> Yeah. No, I I appreciate it. I'm glad to be here and it's exciting. So

488
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yeah, [laughter]

489
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>> Brian, I want to introduce you to Stacy

490
00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:37,279
Beckham.

491
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>> Hello.

492
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>> He could use your help on occasion.

493
00:16:40,079 --> 00:16:41,440
>> Okay, there's [laughter]

494
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>> specifically today. Yeah,

495
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>> I've probably overused Brian. Uh we

496
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started from the beginning like a

497
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computer and like, "All right, how do I

498
00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:51,600
turn it on, Brian?" And he's like,

499
00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,720
"Really? This is our mayor." And but

500
00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,226
>> Exactly. Yeah. See you all the time. So

501
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[laughter]

502
00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:01,519
» there you go. Messaging him all. Isn't

503
00:17:01,519 --> 00:17:04,640
there like IT uh client privilege that

504
00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:05,520
you keep that on the

505
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>> down? [laughter]

506
00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,480
>> So, I think we all know Brian's mom as

507
00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,959
well. Lisa is the one that brings all

508
00:17:12,959 --> 00:17:14,959
the Cub Scouts or all the scouts in to

509
00:17:14,959 --> 00:17:16,799
all of our council meetings. Every time

510
00:17:16,799 --> 00:17:18,480
you see a group of scouts

511
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>> in the room, it's usually Brian's mom

512
00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,439
that's got here.

513
00:17:21,439 --> 00:17:21,760
>> Okay.

514
00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,160
>> She is here all the time.

515
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>> Pretty cool.

516
00:17:25,039 --> 00:17:26,559
>> Couldn't talk her into coming tonight,

517
00:17:26,559 --> 00:17:29,590
but [laughter]

518
00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,520
next time. That's funny.

519
00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:32,080
>> Hilarious.

520
00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,520
>> It's probably a scout meeting. Probably

521
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scouts.

522
00:17:35,217 --> 00:17:36,480
[laughter]

523
00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,480
>> Well, Brian, you're you're a great

524
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employee. I know just like what was

525
00:17:41,120 --> 00:17:42,960
shared about other departments that you

526
00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,240
work [cough] with. That's that's a

527
00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,320
pretty high honor. That's pretty cool.

528
00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,480
Uh that's that's what we are in Spanish

529
00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:50,640
Fork Swiss Army knives. Everybody going

530
00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,880
and helping where and using the tools

531
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wherever they can to keep the city

532
00:17:54,559 --> 00:17:56,400
going. And you're one of those people.

533
00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,480
So, we appreciate you up here and the

534
00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,080
whole city does. So, thanks a lot.

535
00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,600
>> Yeah, perfect. Thank you.

536
00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,600
>> Yeah, I I love working with all the

537
00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,679
departments. It's kind of fun to see all

538
00:18:05,679 --> 00:18:08,960
the cogs and stuff that go on in the

539
00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,360
city and get to rub shoulders with, you

540
00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:12,960
know, everyone, the police and the

541
00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,600
finance and the library and stuff. It's

542
00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:16,799
>> So, yeah.

543
00:18:16,799 --> 00:18:17,840
>> Congratulations,

544
00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,679
>> Ryan. You're working on your cyber

545
00:18:19,679 --> 00:18:21,520
security master's degree. Is that right?

546
00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,200
>> I am getting a master's in cyber

547
00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:25,440
security right now. So, we're about

548
00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:26,640
halfway done.

549
00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,799
>> Nice. And your hair is different today

550
00:18:28,799 --> 00:18:30,000
than it was a few years ago.

551
00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,880
>> Uh yeah, I mean it changes frequently.

552
00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,240
So I usually I I'll grow it out to like

553
00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:37,919
my shoulders and then cut it all off

554
00:18:37,919 --> 00:18:40,080
real short and then Yeah,

555
00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,960
>> he was he he worked with John Boat.

556
00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,549
>> Exactly. So that [laughter]

557
00:18:46,559 --> 00:18:48,960
» got instruction. Yep. That's good.

558
00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:49,679
>> That's great.

559
00:18:49,679 --> 00:18:51,360
>> Well, thank you, Brian. Sure. Appreciate

560
00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:52,720
you, brother. Thank you. And good

561
00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,200
congratulations.

562
00:18:55,200 --> 00:19:09,270
Congrats.

563
00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,813
» It's got a tie. No,

564
00:19:12,813 --> 00:19:12,960
[clears throat]

565
00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:14,320
>> you go right in the middle, Brian. There

566
00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:15,600
you go.

567
00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,760
>> Perfect.

568
00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,760
>> Okay, Stacy, move around, Brian, because

569
00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,400
you're too tall.

570
00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,520
>> The other one, the short one.

571
00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:35,029
We'll see.

572
00:19:35,039 --> 00:19:37,520
» Okay, one more recognition before we uh

573
00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,760
move on to public comments here. And uh

574
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,000
this is one that I'm going to have Seth

575
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,760
introduce a little bit, but I do

576
00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,679
remember this incident and why [snorts]

577
00:19:45,679 --> 00:19:48,080
we're recognizing this individual. I I I

578
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,679
think it was a good day. I was calling

579
00:19:49,679 --> 00:19:52,320
you for something and I thought and then

580
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,960
Seth answered the phone. He's like with

581
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,559
some different kind of voice. And I'm

582
00:19:56,559 --> 00:19:57,520
like, "All right, we're not talking

583
00:19:57,520 --> 00:19:59,280
about what I was calling about." And uh

584
00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,080
and it was uh quite the emergency in

585
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,640
town that he was telling me about, but

586
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,200
this person certainly does deserve some

587
00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:12,559
recognition for his handling and and uh it would be a it would be a bad

588
00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:15,039
disaster if if this got a lot worse. And

589
00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:16,640
uh I'll leave it at that. Seth, you can

590
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:17,280
>> Yeah, thanks.

591
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:17,760
>> More about it.

592
00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,840
>> Terry, if you'll come up. Terry Ficklin

593
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,000
runs our our transfer station, the solid

594
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,160
waste district that we have. And and

595
00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:25,840
honestly, this is as much a recognition

596
00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,240
of of

597
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:29,520
really the whole department, right? And

598
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:30,720
I think Terry would be like, "Hey, this

599
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:31,600
is not about me."

600
00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:32,320
>> Yeah.

601
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,880
>> Um but [clears throat] but uh yeah, on

602
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,880
July 11th, I think it was, so almost a

603
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:37,520
month ago.

604
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,640
>> Yeah. Uh there was a fire at the

605
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,880
transfer station and and I think you

606
00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,039
know that thing was built and and it's

607
00:20:45,039 --> 00:20:46,960
not uncommon to have fires in transfer

608
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,640
stations because people bring in hot

609
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,000
loads.

610
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,559
>> Uh by that the term hot load means

611
00:20:52,559 --> 00:20:54,880
something's on fire

612
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,880
>> um or close to being on fire and and uh

613
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:00,400
things get mixed around and I think you

614
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,080
could probably describe what happened.

615
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,400
But uh what I what I thought was really

616
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,840
amazing and you look at some of these

617
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,559
pictures, Jack Urkart was there. In

618
00:21:08,559 --> 00:21:11,200
fact, uh we've asked Terry to

619
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,989
>> check the um the video footage. We've

620
00:21:13,989 --> 00:21:15,360
[laughter] given him what Jack was

621
00:21:15,360 --> 00:21:19,840
driving. Uh we we were not sure that he

622
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,039
has an alibi. Um but Jack actually

623
00:21:23,039 --> 00:21:24,240
happened to be there. These are not from

624
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,640
Jack, but uh Jack saw these and was

625
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:30,240
like, "Seth, I was there." Um,

626
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,640
and and to be able to put this fire out,

627
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,159
and I can detail some of that after

628
00:21:34,159 --> 00:21:36,880
maybe you speak, but probably most uh

629
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,880
impressive to me was that we were

630
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,120
receiving garbage again on Monday.

631
00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:44,640
>> And so maybe detail a little bit about

632
00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,640
what that took and and I can talk again

633
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,240
to the fire side, but you probably want

634
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:49,360
to talk about that too because you were

635
00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:49,919
there.

636
00:21:49,919 --> 00:21:52,559
>> The fire occurred exactly well. The

637
00:21:52,559 --> 00:21:55,200
alarm was 12 about 12:12, so it was just

638
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:56,240
after lunch.

639
00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,240
>> Yeah, Jack was there. 12. And when the

640
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,919
call out went and um

641
00:22:01,919 --> 00:22:04,720
it after reviewing the videos, it

642
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,159
appears that um it was a flammable

643
00:22:08,159 --> 00:22:10,400
liquid that somebody thought they would

644
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,039
bring to us and decided to set it on the

645
00:22:13,039 --> 00:22:15,520
floor rather than on the table of

646
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:16,880
probably where it should have been,

647
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:18,480
right? We wouldn't have had this

648
00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:22,880
problem. Um, and uh, we we recognized

649
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:24,960
the liquid mainly because the way the

650
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,520
fire works because he pushed it up to

651
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,559
the top and it caught on fire and just

652
00:22:30,559 --> 00:22:33,600
kind of came down the whole volcano kind

653
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:34,640
of a feeling. [clears throat]

654
00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,440
>> And so the crew, we we have reviewed the

655
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,280
tapes, you know, we have lots of

656
00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,559
cameras, lots of angles, and they did

657
00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:45,280
follow procedure. We try to because it

658
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,320
happens fairly often. Uh what we train

659
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,559
them to do is to pull it down, circle

660
00:22:50,559 --> 00:22:53,760
it, isolate it, then we can get in on it

661
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,360
and then and that's usually once a week.

662
00:22:57,360 --> 00:22:59,679
So it's not uncommon, but they're mainly

663
00:22:59,679 --> 00:23:02,400
smoke at that time and very seldom do we

664
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,200
get a blaze. This wasn't that situation.

665
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,760
This one caught fast. Everybody

666
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,480
responded. Thank you to Spanish Fork for

667
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,760
all the all the equipment they sent plus

668
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,000
everything else and all the other cities

669
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,320
from Provo all the way to Sanquin. So,

670
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,159
we're called out. So, we're grateful for

671
00:23:22,159 --> 00:23:25,440
that. Um, but proud to say that the

672
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,240
building did what it was designed to do.

673
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,480
Um, the push wall protects the

674
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:34,320
equipment. Um even after more than 4

675
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,440
hours of burn in the building, we had

676
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,320
minimal damage. Um we did have the

677
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:44,159
sprinklers did go off. Uh about 620

678
00:23:44,159 --> 00:23:46,240
of them have had to been replaced in the

679
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,039
last four weeks. That's now done. We're

680
00:23:49,039 --> 00:23:51,919
back now fully certified and operational

681
00:23:51,919 --> 00:23:55,600
in the full building. Um after the fire,

682
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,000
we were able to open. Um, and because

683
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,000
the building's large, we just moved down

684
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,159
closer to A, B, C, and D. We just used

685
00:24:02,159 --> 00:24:04,559
that side and been using that up until

686
00:24:04,559 --> 00:24:07,200
two days ago when the fire marshall

687
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,720
cleared us to have the entire building

688
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,919
open. So, I have six light fixtures

689
00:24:13,919 --> 00:24:16,080
still coming is all I think that was

690
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,799
more water damage than heat. We

691
00:24:18,799 --> 00:24:21,120
estimated the temperature up in that

692
00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:24,240
high ceiling was probably in the 400s.

693
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,640
So, it wasn't enough to even for the

694
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,880
most part burn the netting down. We just

695
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,840
had netting in one hot spot that that

696
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,640
was next to the push wall. But after I

697
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,520
actually saw Seth at the conclusion when

698
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,080
everything was just dripping at that

699
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,760
point that um um yeah, we had a little

700
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,919
bit of work to do the weekend. So, we

701
00:24:45,919 --> 00:24:47,840
did we worked all through the night,

702
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,080
Saturday, all day Sunday and we were

703
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,720
open for business Monday morning. So,

704
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:58,480
that's what you and the smell of hot wet burnt garbage. I'll bet that

705
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,950
smells. [laughter]

706
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,000
» It is an experience.

707
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,240
>> We were looking from the one of the go

708
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:07,919
back a picture from one of those gates

709
00:25:07,919 --> 00:25:11,440
in the in the other image and looking in

710
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,000
Terry said, "Oh, looks like we lost a

711
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,039
couple of letters." You know, he's got

712
00:25:15,039 --> 00:25:16,640
the ABCD and I can't remember what

713
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:17,919
letters are burned.

714
00:25:17,919 --> 00:25:20,320
>> Looks like VWX. I think

715
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,000
>> like the only casualty that I could see

716
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,720
was the letters. like of all the things

717
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,880
that we lo that I thought we lost,

718
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:27,760
that's it.

719
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,840
>> Uh it was super impressive. Terry said

720
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,919
to me as we were chatting uh in one of

721
00:25:31,919 --> 00:25:33,840
those bay doors that that afternoon, he

722
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:34,960
said, "We built this thing to be

723
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,960
bulletproof." And I said, "Well, I think

724
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,320
it is bulletproof, but I think you built

725
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,720
it to be fireproof." And and he really

726
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,000
did a great job certainly in the

727
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,279
construction. And my uh I think all of

728
00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:47,440
our our gratitude and praise to your

729
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,279
crews because Saturday night and Sunday

730
00:25:49,279 --> 00:25:50,960
all day was not an easy shift.

731
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,159
>> It wasn't. Yeah. But

732
00:25:52,159 --> 00:25:53,760
>> there's a lot of water

733
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,039
>> that needed to be pushed out and

734
00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:57,600
directed and sweeping and

735
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,080
>> so that's just part of what we do.

736
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:00,720
>> Yeah.

737
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,640
>> So, but thank you.

738
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,600
>> So, maybe for the mayor and council's um

739
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,640
understanding, we had crews respond from

740
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,360
Provo, Lehi, American Fork, Springville,

741
00:26:11,360 --> 00:26:14,159
Mapleton, Woodland Hills, Elkridge, PAC,

742
00:26:14,159 --> 00:26:17,360
Utah County, Santa, and Oram. So with

743
00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:19,520
including us, that's 12

744
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,760
>> uh 12 jurisdictions that participated in

745
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:22,960
some way.

746
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:25,039
>> And uh because of the length of the time

747
00:26:25,039 --> 00:26:27,520
of this firefight, we were cycling

748
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,840
through people. Uh they would go in for

749
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,760
a certain amount of time and and they

750
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,080
get in under those intense

751
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,960
circumstances, they get tired. And uh so

752
00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,120
we we actually just rotated people out

753
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:41,200
and and you know, you tap them out and

754
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,039
send them home and call in the next

755
00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:45,360
team, right? Uh, we sent a couple of

756
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:46,880
people for observation. I think one

757
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,080
individual from one of these

758
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,520
jurisdictions that ended up at the

759
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,320
hospital for an hour or so, but was home

760
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,240
before I think he was home from the

761
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:55,679
hospital before all of the crews left

762
00:26:55,679 --> 00:26:59,840
here. So, that's great. Uh, and had some heat exhaustion. I can't remember

763
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,279
the temperature that day, but I feel

764
00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:02,480
like it was close to 100.

765
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,640
>> It was over 100. So, it was 100 on the

766
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,000
outside and

767
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,120
>> 200 on the inside.

768
00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:10,080
>> In the inside, plus

769
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:11,919
>> anyway, just a just an incredible

770
00:27:11,919 --> 00:27:14,559
effort. uh certainly by everybody, but

771
00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:16,960
especially by your people and and thank

772
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,559
you. It's a great service to our

773
00:27:18,559 --> 00:27:21,279
community. We love that we we have this

774
00:27:21,279 --> 00:27:25,360
here. Um and you know, even Jack when he

775
00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:26,960
tries to start fires, he doesn't have to

776
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,320
wait in line. Um it's a significant

777
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:34,000
upgrade from what we used to have and we appreciate.

778
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,240
>> Thank you. Thank you for your support.

779
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,000
Again, Terry, it's not it's one of those

780
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,360
things we've said before, but not too

781
00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:41,200
many cities say, "Yeah, let's put the

782
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,520
transfer station in my city, but you

783
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,559
you've made it a uh the correct decision

784
00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:51,760
for the city and for the district and so we appreciate you being such a

785
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,159
good leader of that facility and and

786
00:27:54,159 --> 00:27:56,000
just running a a good facility in our

787
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,120
city. It's Thank you, Mayor.

788
00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:58,480
>> It's a good place." So

789
00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:58,880
>> So,

790
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,640
>> Terry, I got a question for you. So, you

791
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,159
you've been in this business for a

792
00:28:02,159 --> 00:28:02,640
while.

793
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,559
>> I have. What would a fire of this

794
00:28:04,559 --> 00:28:06,399
magnitude have looked like at the old

795
00:28:06,399 --> 00:28:07,279
transfer station?

796
00:28:07,279 --> 00:28:09,360
>> Oh, it would Yeah, it would have been a

797
00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:12,240
disaster. Total total disaster.

798
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,120
>> So, um you know, we were lucky when we

799
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:17,200
did have a fire over in Springville. It

800
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,360
was on the outside because we had so

801
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:21,840
much trash at that time. We were

802
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,840
everything was more on the outside than

803
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,679
the inside. They would only push it in

804
00:28:25,679 --> 00:28:27,200
when they could load it in the

805
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,919
compactor. And so that was ablaze next

806
00:28:29,919 --> 00:28:34,080
to the truck stop. And um that was a

807
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,080
much bigger fire than this this one was.

808
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,480
But our challenge was visibility. We

809
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,960
couldn't see where the fire was actually

810
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,840
out until we could u remove the smoke.

811
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,679
And so once the smoke was gone, within

812
00:28:47,679 --> 00:28:50,000
30 minutes the fire was out. So we

813
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,600
learned some lessons. That's what you're

814
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:57,840
supposed to do. We've talked about some changes that um that we're going to

815
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,760
look at. Some things worked that were

816
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,600
supposed to. some things didn't work the

817
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,559
way they were supposed to, but uh so

818
00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:07,200
we've learned lessons. We've now had

819
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,279
training to all of the employees since

820
00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:12,720
then, so we can continue to improve. So,

821
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,399
and we'll do so.

822
00:29:14,399 --> 00:29:14,960
>> Well done.

823
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:15,840
>> So, we'll handle.

824
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:16,240
>> Thank you.

825
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,559
>> Well, with no interruption of a super

826
00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:20,399
important service for all of us and all

827
00:29:20,399 --> 00:29:22,640
the residents, uh it's well worth of a

828
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,320
round of applause for Terry. So, please

829
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:33,350
join me in doing that.

830
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,720
Pete's not going to let you get out of

831
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:35,039
here.

832
00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:36,960
>> He's so close. I thought you were going

833
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:43,990
to sprint. [laughter]

834
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,320
» Yeah. In addition to this, Terry is a

835
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,080
beloved Salem resident. He's

836
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:49,679
participating in the Salem Day

837
00:29:49,679 --> 00:29:52,480
celebration right now and

838
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,039
>> does a lot for that community. The boat

839
00:29:55,039 --> 00:30:01,830
riata

840
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:02,799
Thanks, Terry.

841
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:04,159
>> Maybe one more one more thing about

842
00:30:04,159 --> 00:30:07,679
Jack. Today we had a fire in Today we

843
00:30:07,679 --> 00:30:11,120
had a fire just outside the library. Um,

844
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,159
somebody put a cigarette in the garbage

845
00:30:14,159 --> 00:30:17,440
can and we checked the tape and it

846
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,440
wasn't Jack. So, [laughter]

847
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,159
>> off the

848
00:30:20,159 --> 00:30:21,600
>> But you're being serious. That happened,

849
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,559
didn't it?

850
00:30:22,559 --> 00:30:27,600
>> Yeah. Scott the librarian um was on his

851
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,600
phone with 911

852
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:32,000
and the can's on fire, right? It's just

853
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,440
out here in the parking lot and 80 80

854
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,320
South Main. Yes, the library. It's got

855
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,159
the water going. It's in the garbage

856
00:30:40,159 --> 00:30:42,080
can. He was He's telling dispatch what

857
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,000
to do and he's got this cookie tin. I

858
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,440
don't know what where he got a cookie

859
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,760
tin for but or from, but they filled it

860
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,200
full of water, went outside, put it on

861
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,600
the fire in the garbage can and put it

862
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,039
out and the firefighters were really

863
00:30:53,039 --> 00:30:54,326
disappointed when they got there.

864
00:30:54,326 --> 00:30:54,960
[laughter]

865
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,601
>> Come on. We wanted to put it out.

866
00:30:57,601 --> 00:30:57,840
[snorts]

867
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,039
>> So, water.

868
00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:00,720
>> Scott the librarian is now Scott the

869
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:01,600
firefighter. [laughter]

870
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,039
>> Yeah, let's get him a tag.

871
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:04,240
>> I'm sure he's going to ask for something

872
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,399
tomorrow in our meeting, but it wasn't

873
00:31:06,399 --> 00:31:08,399
Jack. He was not here.

874
00:31:08,399 --> 00:31:10,159
>> He was at the station.

875
00:31:10,159 --> 00:31:11,200
>> Fair enough. Yep.

876
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:11,919
>> He was walking.

877
00:31:11,919 --> 00:31:13,120
>> We don't know where he was. He was

878
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,159
walking baby kid.

879
00:31:14,159 --> 00:31:15,120
>> Okay,

880
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,279
>> it's that early.

881
00:31:17,279 --> 00:31:19,200
>> Thank you for those recognitions. Good

882
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,000
people, good folks, and uh and we uh we

883
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,000
appreciate highlighting uh every single

884
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,399
one of them. Moves us on to item number

885
00:31:26,399 --> 00:31:28,080
four in our agenda, the public comment

886
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,159
section. This is a section where anybody

887
00:31:30,159 --> 00:31:31,679
from the public could come address the

888
00:31:31,679 --> 00:31:33,520
mayor and council. Please keep it at

889
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:38,320
three minutes. Jack is here, not at the

890
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,320
uh he'll help us with the time if we can

891
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,640
keep to it. Yes. Name, rank, and serial

892
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,110
number.

893
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,360
» Chad Aral, Spanish Fork citizen.

894
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,799
>> I don't have serial number.

895
00:31:52,799 --> 00:31:54,240
>> Social Security's fine.

896
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,120
>> Wait, wasn't it

897
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,960
>> bank account and mother's maiden name?

898
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,120
>> My card number. Yeah. [laughter]

899
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,440
Um, first of all, I just want to say

900
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,080
absolutely thank you for a celebration

901
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,480
and not just to the council because I I

902
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,799
know it takes the entire city to be a

903
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:11,120
part of this and you know how I love the

904
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:15,120
24th and I was on a parade and had some

905
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,919
fellow uh classmates on there and all

906
00:32:17,919 --> 00:32:19,519
every time a lot of them were Spanish

907
00:32:19,519 --> 00:32:22,240
fork citizens long time ago couldn't

908
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,000
believe how many people come to this

909
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,480
parade to see it and I like Spanish

910
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,559
support. That's what we do. But thank

911
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:32,240
you because I know your your efforts um

912
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,799
takes a lot. Stacy, thanks for that.

913
00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:36,080
>> You're welcome. [snorts]

914
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:40,000
>> Um celebration Arbor 250th. I've had the

915
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,240
opportunity to graduate from high school

916
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,480
in 1976.

917
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,640
I will tell you that after a year and a

918
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,559
half of celebrating, I was really tired

919
00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:50,080
of red, white, and blue because

920
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,000
everything was red, white, and blue cups

921
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,320
from the Dairy Queen and everything

922
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,000
else. But by the time we'd reached the

923
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,519
celebration, it had been going on for a

924
00:32:57,519 --> 00:33:00,960
year and a half. Lucky to be here at

925
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,200
202650

926
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,360
250th anniversary. I think about uh how

927
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,159
proud I am to be an American. I wonder

928
00:33:10,159 --> 00:33:12,159
when that declaration of independence

929
00:33:12,159 --> 00:33:14,720
was sent to King George. He wouldn't

930
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,720
read it. He wouldn't allow parliament to

931
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,519
read it. And he hired the German Hessins

932
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:21,840
to come to America and kill the

933
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,120
patriots. Um, and that took place. And

934
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,799
looking back, I wonder if maybe he would

935
00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:28,880
have read that. It wasn't a declaration

936
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,919
of war. It was just declaring some

937
00:33:31,919 --> 00:33:34,320
grievances and asking us to be allowed

938
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,039
to independently take care of ourselves

939
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:40,000
as 30 col 13 colonies. Of course, later

940
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,559
on we we know the story and how it ends

941
00:33:42,559 --> 00:33:45,200
becomes the United States of America.

942
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,630
Um, [clears throat]

943
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,039
I have a a gift here for each one of the

944
00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:52,960
council and I I don't want anybody else

945
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,279
to be jealous, but I thought that maybe

946
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:58,480
because it's the 250th anniversary, uh,

947
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,039
you you guys deserved something just to

948
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:04,080
show that you served. Um, I have a mint

949
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,600
set from United States Mint. Uh, it is

950
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,440
from the Delaware and the Philadelphia

951
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,720
Mint. One unique thing about this is you

952
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:14,879
know that the the penny went away in

953
00:34:14,879 --> 00:34:18,480
2025, but in 2026 they put it in the

954
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,960
mint sets and the proof sets. That

955
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,919
penny's been selling for $325.

956
00:34:23,919 --> 00:34:25,200
I'm pretty sure the mayor would say

957
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:27,520
that's a pretty good investment. So

958
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,919
anyway, uh I just I wanted to do this.

959
00:34:29,919 --> 00:34:31,440
I've been excited about coming this

960
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,440
because I've had these sets for a while,

961
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,119
but every time you guys scheduled

962
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:36,720
council meeting, I had something else

963
00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:39,200
scheduled. So, if I may approach,

964
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,000
please.

965
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,599
>> Yeah, please. Gifts.

966
00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:42,800
>> No

967
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:43,599
>> gifts.

968
00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:44,399
>> Stay away.

969
00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:46,240
>> I think that's funny that every time you

970
00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:47,520
scheduled a meeting, as if he didn't

971
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,310
know this guy. [laughter]

972
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,480
» And if he's not and if he's not retired,

973
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,399
like what's he doing?

974
00:34:54,399 --> 00:34:55,119
>> He's driving [snorts] through

975
00:34:55,119 --> 00:34:58,790
roundabouts and

976
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:04,069
years old.

977
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:05,520
» Open it.

978
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,599
>> You open it.

979
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:09,520
I don't think I'll make it to the next

980
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,280
50 years because that's a long time

981
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,720
away. But um something to remember that

982
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:17,440
you know I was here during the 250th

983
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:18,880
anniversary.

984
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,880
>> Thank you. That is service.

985
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,400
>> Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate that.

986
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,599
>> You're not supposed to open them.

987
00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:28,000
>> Yes, I am. Everybody wants to see them.

988
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,359
>> Oh, [snorts] don't open them.

989
00:35:29,359 --> 00:35:32,000
>> Too late [laughter]

990
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,240
>> now. Did it just

991
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:36,880
>> She's She's She's going straight to

992
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:37,760
Wendover with them.

993
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,599
>> Kills me. [laughter]

994
00:35:39,599 --> 00:35:43,359
>> Oh, so yeah, it has a penny. Has a sack

995
00:35:43,359 --> 00:35:46,400
dollar. Has has a penny has a sack

996
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,280
dollars. They made five quarters for the

997
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,000
celebration.

998
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,119
>> Oh, now you want to see it.

999
00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:52,880
>> Um, [laughter] every one of them, the

1000
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,640
dime, the penny. The only thing they

1001
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,160
didn't change too much was the nickel,

1002
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:59,520
but every one of them has 250 on it. So,

1003
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,480
>> that's pretty cool.

1004
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,160
>> Wow. So you I shouldn't spend these. I

1005
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:02,720
should keep them.

1006
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:03,200
>> Don't spend.

1007
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,040
>> No. Open them up.

1008
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:05,920
>> Can I have [laughter] one?

1009
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,240
>> Let's do Yeah. Keep safe.

1010
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:10,720
>> Thank you, Chad. That super nice.

1011
00:36:10,720 --> 00:36:12,240
>> Thank you.

1012
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:13,440
>> Very cool.

1013
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,359
>> That is very cool.

1014
00:36:15,359 --> 00:36:19,865
>> Okay. Anybody else for public comment?

1015
00:36:19,865 --> 00:36:21,040
[clears throat]

1016
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,640
>> You don't have to bring gifts for public

1017
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:23,119
comment,

1018
00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:24,560
>> but they're appreciated. [laughter]

1019
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,800
>> I appreciate that because

1020
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,680
empty pockets. Uh Alan Westman, uh

1021
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,560
private citizen. Uh I have three shout

1022
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,520
outs uh to make and then just one

1023
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,800
speaking to an upcoming agenda item.

1024
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,480
I'll try to be quick. Um first off, I am

1025
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,560
a regular user of the Popular Lane trail

1026
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,680
head and really appreciate the folks who

1027
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,359
uh take care of the restrooms there,

1028
00:36:49,359 --> 00:36:50,880
keep them clean. They're all they're

1029
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,880
almost always in good order and m

1030
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:54,560
maintained and really appreciate that.

1031
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,800
It means a lot. So thank you. I think

1032
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,440
parks and record I think is who deserves

1033
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:00,640
that. Um

1034
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:01,359
>> that's Carrie.

1035
00:37:01,359 --> 00:37:04,560
>> Second thing is uh rodeo. I I have

1036
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,560
longtime Spanish fork resident but first

1037
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,160
time attending the rodeo this year. Um

1038
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,920
and I know that raises some eyebrows but

1039
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,160
I'll admit it. Uh anyways it was a

1040
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,280
wonderful experience. Uh very much

1041
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,839
enjoyed it and so kudos to all those who

1042
00:37:19,839 --> 00:37:24,000
took part in putting that on. um uh also

1043
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,520
recently attended for the first time one

1044
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,359
of the chamber of commerce networking

1045
00:37:27,359 --> 00:37:29,760
business networking events and that was

1046
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,680
well organized and so forth and so just

1047
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,680
again a shout out generally to the

1048
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,000
Spanish Fork Salem Chamber of Commerce

1049
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,119
and then finally um speaking to an

1050
00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:41,440
upcoming agenda item for this meeting is

1051
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,280
I know that there's talk about data

1052
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,040
centers and so forth and data centers

1053
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,359
are a very politically charged topic

1054
00:37:47,359 --> 00:37:49,680
right now I am a software engineer by

1055
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:54,400
profession I uh we rely on distributed

1056
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,960
computing that that happens in data

1057
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,000
centers and so forth. Um

1058
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,520
uh when I think about data centers

1059
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:04,880
companies that want to bring a data

1060
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,400
center to our area here are the the

1061
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,079
general kinds of questions that I'm

1062
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:12,800
looking to ask. First off is and I just

1063
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,599
I share this because I I expect that you

1064
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:17,440
also have the same kind of questions but

1065
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,839
I want to express as a citizen what

1066
00:38:19,839 --> 00:38:22,640
comes to my mind that is the company's

1067
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,480
credibility. Do they have are they

1068
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,040
transparent and and wholesome in their

1069
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,640
details? Do they have a good track

1070
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:30,480
record of building data centers in other

1071
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,200
communities and and operating them? What

1072
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,800
are the physics of of the claiming?

1073
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,400
doesn't make sense what they're claiming

1074
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:42,240
about energy in and the thermal energy,

1075
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:44,320
the heat coming out. It's transforming a

1076
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:45,680
bunch of electrons into useful

1077
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,680
computations, but also a bunch of waste

1078
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,160
heat. What's happening with that? Um,

1079
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,640
and then community impacts. What is the

1080
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,800
resource usage? What are what are the

1081
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,960
noise impacts? Any traffic? That kind of

1082
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,599
stuff. Those are my concerns. I

1083
00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:02,000
recognize that data centers may be

1084
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,480
important but we have to be very

1085
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,000
cautious and careful in how we ask

1086
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,920
questions about that. Make sure we get

1087
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,950
good answers. Thank you.

1088
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,800
» Ask a thermodynamic question. Right.

1089
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:17,520
>> Definitely.

1090
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,670
>> Anyone else?

1091
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,400
» Okay. Hi, my name is Tara Parker and I'm

1092
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,280
a Spanish Fork resident and I'm here

1093
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,680
tonight um wearing two different hats.

1094
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,400
I'm a um board member for the Spanish

1095
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,960
Fork Community Theater and then I am

1096
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,440
also an advocate and community liaison

1097
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,800
for the Ruth the um former Hill Center

1098
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,760
theater orum. And I wanted to start by

1099
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,640
thanking Spanish Fork City um our parks

1100
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,800
and recck department and the people of

1101
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,440
Spanish Fork for helping us make our

1102
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,520
fiesta days production of the Prince of

1103
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,440
Egypt such a big success. Um, with more

1104
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,920
than 150 cast and crew members, which

1105
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:03,520
was our biggest yet, and record-breaking

1106
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,440
ticket sales, it's very clear that the

1107
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,760
arts are thriving and doing well in our

1108
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,560
community. Um, and then switching over

1109
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,599
to my Ruth hat. Um, many of you know

1110
00:40:13,599 --> 00:40:16,240
that the Ruth recently, um, opened in

1111
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:18,560
Pleasant Grove and as a community

1112
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,079
advocate, I worked to strengthen

1113
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:22,160
connections, um, between the Ruth and

1114
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,240
our community and also provide the

1115
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:26,560
county with opportunities in the arts.

1116
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,200
Since opening, the Ruth has distributed

1117
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,880
um, thousands of complimentary ticket

1118
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,800
vouchers throughout Utah County,

1119
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,200
including right here in Spanish Fork.

1120
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,520
Um, we really enjoyed partner partnering

1121
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,079
with the city's Easter egg hunt. Um,

1122
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:42,480
working with arts council and our local

1123
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,960
schools and many of our local businesses

1124
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,119
like the dance studios and places like

1125
00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:49,680
that. Um, [clears throat] in addition to

1126
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,240
our worldclass productions, we also

1127
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:54,400
offer or the Ruth also offers performing

1128
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,079
arts classes and um, community uh,

1129
00:40:58,079 --> 00:41:02,000
programs. So, on behalf of the Ruth and

1130
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,400
um our new city spotlight initiative,

1131
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,280
we'd like to invite city council to come

1132
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:11,040
to either um Scarlett Pimpernel or Pride

1133
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,280
and Prejudice and experience the

1134
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,319
beautiful new theater and I'll send out

1135
00:41:16,319 --> 00:41:18,560
um the ticketing information and details

1136
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:22,400
via the council email. And um our city's

1137
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,920
spotlight week is August 17th through

1138
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,599
22nd. And I gave um Jack a graphic. Oh,

1139
00:41:29,599 --> 00:41:33,040
there it is. A graphic um and a ticket

1140
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,560
code that we can share with all of our

1141
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,400
residents so they can come and

1142
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,400
experience it. I know we have a lot of

1143
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,520
crossover. Some of our SFCT actors have

1144
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,240
gone on to be in productions there as

1145
00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:46,079
well. So, I just want to say thank you

1146
00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:47,839
so much for all you do for the arts in

1147
00:41:47,839 --> 00:41:50,880
our community and and listening to all

1148
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:52,560
these stories tonight. I'm pretty happy

1149
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,720
to be a resident here, too. So, thank

1150
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:55,200
you.

1151
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,119
>> Thank you, Sarah. Tara, I went and saw

1152
00:41:57,119 --> 00:41:59,814
the scar at Pippernill last Wednesday.

1153
00:41:59,814 --> 00:42:02,560
[snorts] It was absolutely phenomenal.

1154
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:03,119
>> Oh, good.

1155
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:04,720
>> And I went to lunch with someone that

1156
00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:07,359
lives in Pleasant Grove today and I told

1157
00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:08,880
her, "Oh, I was just over at the Rouge."

1158
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,319
She goes, "What's the Ruth?" I'm like,

1159
00:42:10,319 --> 00:42:11,920
"You passed it to drive here. You live

1160
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,240
in Pleasant Grove. What is it?" So, I

1161
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:15,440
think it's very good that you're out

1162
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,280
advocating and it's we're so lucky to

1163
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,119
have something so close to us. so

1164
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:21,680
incredible and beautiful inside and I

1165
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,680
highly encourage if you haven't been

1166
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,839
there, take advantage of this discount

1167
00:42:25,839 --> 00:42:28,000
and go check it out. The acting is so

1168
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,200
well done.

1169
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,119
>> Good. Good. I'm so glad you enjoyed it.

1170
00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:33,040
Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

1171
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,359
>> The Ruth The Ruth is awesome. That is

1172
00:42:35,359 --> 00:42:35,760
awesome.

1173
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,119
>> It is. I'm a fan.

1174
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:39,200
>> Yeah. My wife and I had had recently

1175
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:45,040
watched um the the play Oh boy. If I was

1176
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,040
a rich man, Fiddler on the Roof. We

1177
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:48,640
watched it at another place and it was

1178
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,160
great. And then we watched it at the

1179
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,960
Ruth and it was incredible. I mean, this

1180
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,160
was what, six months ago, I think, that

1181
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,400
we watched, but it was like they had a

1182
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:57,599
little bit of a spin on it that we

1183
00:42:57,599 --> 00:43:00,079
hadn't seen before and it was fantastic.

1184
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:01,599
And and we watched we've watched a

1185
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:03,599
couple plays there as well and are

1186
00:43:03,599 --> 00:43:05,200
planning on going to Pride and Prejudice

1187
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,960
and are super excited.

1188
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:07,680
>> Awesome.

1189
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,920
>> I wonder if Mr. Darcy will actually get

1190
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:11,920
married this time. I don't know. I'm

1191
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,174
>> It's a cliffhanger. We'll see.

1192
00:43:13,174 --> 00:43:14,240
[laughter]

1193
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:16,880
>> Yeah. Great job. It's a great theater.

1194
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,400
>> Thank you. I'll pass that along to them.

1195
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,359
I appreciate it.

1196
00:43:19,359 --> 00:43:21,200
>> Thanks very

1197
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,520
coming.

1198
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:28,309
Anyone else for public comment?

1199
00:43:28,319 --> 00:43:30,400
Okay, seeing none, uh we'll go to

1200
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,960
council comments. Uh been a minute since

1201
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,480
we did this. I don't what you were here

1202
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,920
at the last meeting. Which way did you

1203
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,839
go? We don't want to go the same way.

1204
00:43:37,839 --> 00:43:39,440
>> She just randomly called out her name.

1205
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,640
>> Oh, she doesn't know.

1206
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:41,760
>> Yell at us. It's fine.

1207
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,440
>> Councilman Tokyo. All right. We start on

1208
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,040
that end and head down this way.

1209
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:45,680
>> Sure.

1210
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,760
>> Okay. All right. Councilman Tuk.

1211
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:48,960
>> Okay. Thank you, Mayor. Got a couple

1212
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,480
items, but I'll move quickly so we all

1213
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:52,319
have some time here this evening. But

1214
00:43:52,319 --> 00:43:53,839
good evening, Spanish Fork. It's great

1215
00:43:53,839 --> 00:43:56,000
to be back. It's been a minute. So,

1216
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:57,920
couple things. First off, the public

1217
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,640
works uh building design committee that

1218
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,880
I'm able to serve on is moving forward.

1219
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,960
It's fun to see that come together. Our

1220
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,359
public works uh division is in in dire

1221
00:44:07,359 --> 00:44:10,160
need of uh a facility that brings them

1222
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:11,760
all together and better serves our

1223
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,599
community. So, just to give you a quick

1224
00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:15,839
update that's looking great and

1225
00:44:15,839 --> 00:44:19,839
exciting. Um, more to come. Also, uh, we

1226
00:44:19,839 --> 00:44:21,520
had a fun and I'll kind of bounce around

1227
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,359
a little bit uh, with a couple

1228
00:44:23,359 --> 00:44:24,560
announcements, but the Chamber of

1229
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,680
Commerce had a really fun uh, couple

1230
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,359
ribbon cutings, grand openings. One of

1231
00:44:29,359 --> 00:44:31,280
them that stuck out to me was, and I

1232
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,839
might have a picture um, and Jack. Oh,

1233
00:44:33,839 --> 00:44:36,000
good. Uh, so this was Blue Unicorn.

1234
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:37,920
They're uh, located by Coin Craze. if

1235
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:38,880
you know what part of the city I'm

1236
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,240
talking about back behind Target a

1237
00:44:40,240 --> 00:44:42,720
little bit there. Wendy's. Um, Blue

1238
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:45,599
Unicorn, they uh they're kind of a fun

1239
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:48,079
protein puff bar. Anyway, they had an

1240
00:44:48,079 --> 00:44:51,359
amazing grand opening. Uh they had a

1241
00:44:51,359 --> 00:44:53,599
unicorn and they had what? Alpacas,

1242
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:55,200
llamas. They had all sorts of fun

1243
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,119
things. Uh but it was an amazing new

1244
00:44:57,119 --> 00:45:00,000
business ad to our community. And it's

1245
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:01,920
exciting to see things like this come to

1246
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,160
Spanish Fork because I want to be here a

1247
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,079
part of our community and experience the goodness that we have all been

1248
00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:09,680
talking about this evening. So that was

1249
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,319
one that stuck out to me. And then also

1250
00:45:12,319 --> 00:45:14,560
uh just an update. It's been a minute

1251
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,800
since we had the Miss Utah pageant, but

1252
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,400
we have so much representation from

1253
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,400
Spanish Fork. So these are all uh these

1254
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,480
gals are all former Miss Spanish Forks

1255
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,200
that have competed and just competed in

1256
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,720
uh Miss Utah. You've got a couple to

1257
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:28,800
name a few. You've got Cali Maguire

1258
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,440
there um in a picture, Hope King. Hope

1259
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,520
actually at Miss Utah came in first

1260
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:34,560
runner up. And if you don't know much

1261
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,880
about Miss Utah, that's an exceptional

1262
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,040
accomplishment. Uh so, and she's

1263
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,040
actually won another title just last

1264
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,520
weekend to go back and compete again at

1265
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:45,119
Miss Utah next year. You can tell I get

1266
00:45:45,119 --> 00:45:46,000
a little excited about these things

1267
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,359
because my sister was in this and I got

1268
00:45:47,359 --> 00:45:50,800
involved decades ago. But uh anyway, fun

1269
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,280
to see Spanish represented on the state

1270
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,280
stage and and hope will actually go to

1271
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:56,319
the national, it's called the

1272
00:45:56,319 --> 00:45:58,000
Sweethearts pageantss for all the first

1273
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,000
runner-ups at the state level and so

1274
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:01,920
she'll compete and represent um our

1275
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,079
state and and kind of Spanish Fork too

1276
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:06,720
on that national stage. Just super

1277
00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:08,400
exciting. So, so fun things happening

1278
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,880
with the Miss Spanish Fork organization.

1279
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:12,880
Um

1280
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,040
went to a really great uh new business

1281
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,640
opening as well with Councilman Oiler.

1282
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:17,760
Uh, I'll let him talk a little more

1283
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:18,960
about it, but it was for Wheeler

1284
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,800
Machinery. It's been a little while, but

1285
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,880
that was incredible. I don't have any

1286
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,480
pictures. I think you may. I hope so. At

1287
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,359
least I didn't grab any, but uh the the

1288
00:46:27,359 --> 00:46:29,440
most amazing new business I've seen

1289
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:30,880
added to our community since I've served

1290
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,440
on council. Absolutely. Um,

1291
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,440
mind-blowing. So, I'll give some time to

1292
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,520
you to do that if you want. Uh, I won't

1293
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:39,280
say much about Fiesta Days because

1294
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,240
others I will, especially Councilwoman

1295
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:44,240
Beck, but just uh one or two highlights

1296
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:46,640
from me. Uh absolutely loved the the

1297
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,960
Hall of Fame uh event that kicked off

1298
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,640
Fiesta Days. I thought the car show was

1299
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,119
phenomenal. So many new entries, so much

1300
00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:55,200
such a larger production than it had

1301
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,119
been in years past. That was fun to see.

1302
00:46:57,119 --> 00:47:00,079
And then my favorite event is uh on the

1303
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:01,440
last day, which is the Mr. and Mrs.

1304
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,280
Extraordinary Pageant, which I was able

1305
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:06,000
to judge and just uh touches my heart

1306
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,520
every year more and more. It's it's

1307
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,119
amazing that how that's come and grown

1308
00:47:09,119 --> 00:47:11,599
and become a big part of Fiesta Days.

1309
00:47:11,599 --> 00:47:13,760
Um, and even at the very end of

1310
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,520
yesterday's too, council Oiler and I,

1311
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,520
Councilman Oiler, we we had a class

1312
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,240
reunion uh that we able to somehow put

1313
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:21,520
together. It was we were exhausted, but

1314
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,920
we we survived it. So, that was kind of

1315
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,200
fun. Um,

1316
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,720
>> was that the same as Chad's?

1317
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:29,920
>> That was Yeah. 76. Yeah.

1318
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:30,720
>> Close.

1319
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:32,000
>> Just curious.

1320
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:32,800
>> Yeah.

1321
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:33,839
>> Feels the same to me.

1322
00:47:33,839 --> 00:47:35,832
>> It was 30 years after your class.

1323
00:47:35,832 --> 00:47:38,069
[laughter]

1324
00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:41,040
Um, another fun Chamber of Commerce uh

1325
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:42,560
announcement. We had the Bank of Utah

1326
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,400
ribbon cutting. They're over there kind

1327
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,280
of by Popeye's Chicken. Great great new

1328
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,040
ad to the community. And um and I'm sure

1329
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,280
others will mention this as well too. Uh

1330
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,359
happy and sad, more happy than sad to

1331
00:47:55,359 --> 00:47:58,720
see uh Dell Robinson, our director of um

1332
00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:00,560
parks and recreation retire, but we have

1333
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,800
Bronco now and excited to hear from him

1334
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,560
and and watch him grow in the role.

1335
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,119
definitely loved working with Dale and

1336
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:10,480
wish him all the best. Um, one last

1337
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,240
thing here I just wanted to share. Our

1338
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:14,000
president of the Chamber of Commerce,

1339
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,680
she could not be with us this evening,

1340
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,280
but she'd had three things she wanted me

1341
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,280
to quickly relay to the city and the

1342
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,640
council. So, I just like to share these

1343
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,880
with you all. So, tomorrow, August 5th,

1344
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,200
at noon, uh the chamber community is

1345
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,720
celebrating Hillrest Bank's uh rebrand

1346
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:31,599
to Vista Bank. So, we're going Hillrest

1347
00:48:31,599 --> 00:48:34,720
Bank to Vista Bank. And I went to a a

1348
00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:36,160
meeting earlier this morning that talked

1349
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:37,920
about what that's going to look like and

1350
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,160
there'll be swig drinks there and all

1351
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:41,280
sorts of fun things. Anyway, if you'd

1352
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,520
like to come by, uh we'd love you're

1353
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,960
invited. So, tomorrow at noon, um Vista

1354
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:50,400
Bank. Uh and then also, uh the farmers

1355
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,640
market kicked off last Saturday just

1356
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,559
outside here in the parking lot just

1357
00:48:54,559 --> 00:48:56,400
west of the our buildings where we're

1358
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,559
at. And uh you know, if this is

1359
00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:00,000
something you haven't experienced yet in

1360
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,880
Spanish Fork, please do it. It's amazing

1361
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:04,559
the farmers and those vendors who show

1362
00:49:04,559 --> 00:49:05,920
up and what they sell and what they

1363
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,720
produce. Uh absolutely incredible. So

1364
00:49:08,720 --> 00:49:11,520
that was our first event and uh you know

1365
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:12,880
just right there in the Spanish works

1366
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,800
parking lot. It'll be every Saturday

1367
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,599
8:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. uh through the

1368
00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:20,160
end of October. So so please come see

1369
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,200
us. I I promise it will impress you.

1370
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,200
It's amazing. They sell everything. Um

1371
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,359
it's it's incredible. Uh and then just

1372
00:49:27,359 --> 00:49:28,800
one last message from the Chamber of

1373
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,880
Commerce to the city uh particularly

1374
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:32,800
city council. They wanted me to let you

1375
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,319
know that we they say we collectively

1376
00:49:34,319 --> 00:49:37,119
and are so grateful for the city uh and

1377
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:38,880
the city staff too, sorry, for allowing

1378
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,040
us to use the space for the farmers

1379
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:43,599
market. Um we deeply appreciate it and

1380
00:49:43,599 --> 00:49:46,240
are excited to share the delicious hard

1381
00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:47,599
works of the community. And again,

1382
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:51,040
that's all those farmers and um yeah,

1383
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,119
producers of amazing things that we can

1384
00:49:53,119 --> 00:49:55,440
showcase for our city.

1385
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,480
It's a mouthful. That's all I've got.

1386
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,160
>> Sorry, that's starting in August, right?

1387
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:01,119
the farmers market.

1388
00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:01,920
>> Started last Saturday.

1389
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:02,319
>> Last Saturday.

1390
00:50:02,319 --> 00:50:03,359
>> Oh, so it's already going

1391
00:50:03,359 --> 00:50:06,240
>> first one. And yeah, and then we're every Saturday now until the end

1392
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:06,800
of October.

1393
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,359
>> They tour the the carnival down and put

1394
00:50:09,359 --> 00:50:11,599
the put the thing up.

1395
00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:13,680
>> Yeah. Yeah, they were down and cool.

1396
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:14,960
>> One thing after next. Yeah,

1397
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:15,599
>> we're good.

1398
00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:18,400
>> Landon Vista Bank. Is it at 11 or 12?

1399
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,720
For some reason, I have down 11.

1400
00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:23,839
>> 11. Uh, let me confirm

1401
00:50:23,839 --> 00:50:25,440
said 12, but I'll double check and

1402
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:26,880
>> All right. I can double check with her,

1403
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:27,760
too.

1404
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,280
Yeah, give an update if so.

1405
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,440
>> Be there at 11. Get some refreshments.

1406
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:32,240
>> Get a swig.

1407
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:36,000
>> Yeah, get a swig. Starts at 12.

1408
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,000
>> Very good. Thank you, Councilman Tuk.

1409
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,160
Appreciate that. Councilman Carden,

1410
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,040
thank you, Mayor. Um, I'll only talk

1411
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,040
about a few things from yesterday's as

1412
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,520
well. Um, the first was the Pyro

1413
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:49,920
Musical. What a such a cool event that

1414
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,359
started out from citizens just kind of

1415
00:50:51,359 --> 00:50:54,160
putting it together. Um, but I have to

1416
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,520
say that the start of the fireworks,

1417
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,839
specifically the music selection, was

1418
00:50:59,839 --> 00:51:02,160
phenomenal. Wouldn't you agree, Seth?

1419
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:03,200
>> It was incredible.

1420
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:06,079
>> Yeah. Good. Okay. Just making sure

1421
00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:08,319
you're on the same page.

1422
00:51:08,319 --> 00:51:10,960
Okay. Um, with that, um, the other thing

1423
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:12,160
that I wanted to talk about is The

1424
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,640
Prince of Egypt. Prince of Egypt was

1425
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,079
phenomenal. If you didn't get to see it,

1426
00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:18,240
I am sorry for you. What a cool cast.

1427
00:51:18,240 --> 00:51:20,480
What Thank you for talking about it, um,

1428
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,480
being a part of it. Um, as I served on

1429
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,160
the arts council, they they were talking

1430
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,760
about they were talking it up and I

1431
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,440
didn't think it was going to live up to

1432
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:29,520
the hype, but it did and it surpassed

1433
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,400
it. Um, just as an FYI, next year

1434
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,160
they'll be doing Finding Nemo, so

1435
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,440
something a little bit more kids. It's

1436
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:37,599
actually a shorter version. Um, and

1437
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:41,200
it'll be really fun to see that happen.

1438
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,599
Um, thank you to all the staff that make

1439
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:46,319
Fiesta Days happen. Um, I think there's

1440
00:51:46,319 --> 00:51:47,599
a lot of volunteers that go into that

1441
00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:49,920
and thank thank you to them as well. But

1442
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,400
our staff um I think our police

1443
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,319
department, they didn't look exhausted.

1444
00:51:54,319 --> 00:51:55,680
They looked past exhausted. So, I don't

1445
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,760
know the word for it, but they were

1446
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,240
there by the end. But thank you to

1447
00:52:00,240 --> 00:52:01,599
everyone because I know it's not just

1448
00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:03,920
the police officers, our finance team is

1449
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,839
doing things, our parks and wreck, our

1450
00:52:05,839 --> 00:52:08,079
public works, everybody is involved in

1451
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:10,160
making things happen. So, thank you.

1452
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:11,920
Also, we've received a lot of emails

1453
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,319
recently of praises or even text

1454
00:52:14,319 --> 00:52:15,520
messages of praises for the city. And

1455
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:16,640
so, I just wanted to mention a few of

1456
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,559
them. Um, I received a picture of the

1457
00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:21,040
Sierra Park um from a landscaper in town

1458
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:24,240
and he said, "Rarely do you see cities

1459
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:28,079
that have crisp lines and no weeds in

1460
00:52:28,079 --> 00:52:31,440
their big fields." So, that was awesome.

1461
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,319
We received an email of somebody who

1462
00:52:34,319 --> 00:52:36,000
unfortunately had to plan a funeral

1463
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,160
talking about how awesome our staff was

1464
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,400
at the cemetery and making them feel

1465
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,760
heard and seen. Um, I received a thank

1466
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,160
you from someone talking about the Fit

1467
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,640
City Center, talking about how awesome

1468
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,400
it is that they have moved the

1469
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,400
treadmills to the hallway and opened up

1470
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:53,599
that space because they felt like they

1471
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:54,880
could work out a little bit more.

1472
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:56,640
>> And then there was a thank you to our

1473
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:58,720
city planner saying, "Thank you for

1474
00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:00,160
planning such a good city." I know that

1475
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,440
some of that's happened before you,

1476
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,359
Dave, but I thought that was an awesome

1477
00:53:03,359 --> 00:53:05,920
thing and something to to shout out. So,

1478
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:06,240
um,

1479
00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:07,680
>> did you just say something? It happened

1480
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:08,880
before him.

1481
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,760
>> He's been here 20 years. 60. I'm just

1482
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,119
kidding. No,

1483
00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:15,040
>> you know what I meant.

1484
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,040
>> Thanks, Shane. Um, [laughter]

1485
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,160
but with that, just we we have the best

1486
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,920
staff in in the state for sure. Um,

1487
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:26,400
thank you from from Seth to everyone in

1488
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,000
all that you do because it doesn't go

1489
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,920
unnoticed. Thank you for what you do.

1490
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,040
That's all I got, Mayor.

1491
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,720
>> Perfect. Thank you, Councilman Carden.

1492
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:34,079
Councilman Oiler.

1493
00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:36,400
>> Thank you, Mayor. got a few board

1494
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,160
meetings coming up this weekend next and

1495
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,440
so I'll report back on those at our our

1496
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,400
next council meeting. Uh Councilman Tuk

1497
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,000
mentioned the Wheeler ribbon cutting

1498
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,720
which was excellent. Uh it felt like

1499
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:51,040
that was a long time ago which it it

1500
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:52,640
kind of was. It was back in June. So I

1501
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,240
did do a report on that in our last

1502
00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:55,760
council meeting which you were you were

1503
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,160
out of town for. So but yeah that was a

1504
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:00,640
great great ribbon cutting great

1505
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,200
business to have in town. Um, just

1506
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,440
echoing Fiesta Days and everybody that

1507
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:08,000
participated in that, everybody that

1508
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,760
worked and helped make all of those

1509
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,319
events take place. Councilwoman Beck,

1510
00:54:12,319 --> 00:54:15,040
you do an amazing job every year on that

1511
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,640
committee putting together the right

1512
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,160
volunteers, the right amount of people,

1513
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,079
and I'm sure you'll you'll speak to

1514
00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:22,400
that. Just want to mention as well just

1515
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,400
the gratitude towards our police

1516
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,079
department for the work that they put in

1517
00:54:26,079 --> 00:54:30,319
that week. I walk with my family from my

1518
00:54:30,319 --> 00:54:31,920
house over to the Pyro Musical and

1519
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,960
there's a police officer working making

1520
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:36,480
sure people don't go where they're not

1521
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,000
supposed to go. Um, I'm getting ready

1522
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,640
for the parade and I see police officers

1523
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,119
putting barriers out in the road to make

1524
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:46,960
sure that cars don't go where they're

1525
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,480
not supposed to go. I'm going to the

1526
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:53,520
rodeo and there's officers in the middle

1527
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:55,680
of the street making sure people can get

1528
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,559
back and forth safely. So, all of these

1529
00:54:58,559 --> 00:55:00,400
things that I'm able to go and do and

1530
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,599
enjoy as a family and I recognize that

1531
00:55:03,599 --> 00:55:05,200
there are officers that are having to

1532
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,079
work while we're all out enjoying those

1533
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:10,400
things. And so, we recognize the

1534
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,640
sacrifices that our officers make during

1535
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,359
that week as they, as Councilman Carden

1536
00:55:15,359 --> 00:55:16,960
mentioned, they they put in a lot of

1537
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,520
hours. And so, Chief, thank you. If you

1538
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,440
could thank your staff for us as well.

1539
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,280
We recognize them and are grateful for

1540
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,559
what they do. Um,

1541
00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:28,720
couple other things just quickly, and I

1542
00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:31,359
don't expect answers to these tonight

1543
00:55:31,359 --> 00:55:33,280
from staff, but there have been a couple

1544
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,760
of items that have that we've received

1545
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,599
emails on and that have floated around

1546
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:40,079
with uh residents that have concerns or

1547
00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:43,280
questions, things that they are likely

1548
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,440
hoping to get addressed in one way or

1549
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:48,640
another. Again, no no need to respond to

1550
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,559
this tonight, but maybe that we can add

1551
00:55:50,559 --> 00:55:53,200
this to future discussion. One of them

1552
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,440
we've discussed a little bit with parks

1553
00:55:55,440 --> 00:56:00,319
and wreck department, and that's the the outdoor pool, the hours at the

1554
00:56:00,319 --> 00:56:02,960
outdoor pool. Um

1555
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,359
families requesting, individuals

1556
00:56:05,359 --> 00:56:07,520
requesting that more nights be made

1557
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,760
available. So I know just want the

1558
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,440
residents that are watching to know that

1559
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,079
we have discussed that. We are looking

1560
00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:17,359
at ideas trying to improve that. Um make

1561
00:56:17,359 --> 00:56:19,359
that better for the entire community. So

1562
00:56:19,359 --> 00:56:21,359
that's not something that's being

1563
00:56:21,359 --> 00:56:22,799
ignored. I can tell you right now that

1564
00:56:22,799 --> 00:56:25,599
our our staff at the Fit City Center and

1565
00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:27,280
our parks and reccks department are very

1566
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:29,920
aware of that and and looking for ways

1567
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,280
to to make possible changes there. Um,

1568
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,920
another update that I I would like to

1569
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,079
get at some point, I know we've received

1570
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:40,079
questions and concerns about the back

1571
00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:42,960
parking lot at the city center and the

1572
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:44,960
noise, especially during the summertime

1573
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,640
that takes place back there. Some of the

1574
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:48,799
residents that have concerns, we have

1575
00:56:48,799 --> 00:56:53,680
put in place some changes with cameras and other

1576
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,079
things. I'd be curious to know just how

1577
00:56:56,079 --> 00:56:58,480
what the results are from that, any

1578
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:04,319
successes, um improvements that have occurred over the over the

1579
00:57:04,319 --> 00:57:06,240
last few months as we've discussed those

1580
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:10,720
issues as well. So, those are the two items that come to mind that I'd

1581
00:57:10,720 --> 00:57:13,119
love to have future discussions on.

1582
00:57:13,119 --> 00:57:15,359
Outside of that, I think that's all I

1583
00:57:15,359 --> 00:57:16,319
have to

1584
00:57:16,319 --> 00:57:18,160
>> Perfect. Thank you, Councilman Oiler.

1585
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:22,079
Appreciate that. Councilwoman Beck,

1586
00:57:22,079 --> 00:57:24,079
>> I love hearing everyone's perspective

1587
00:57:24,079 --> 00:57:25,760
about Fiesta Days and I don't want to

1588
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,920
monopolize that by any means. So, thank

1589
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,640
you. It's It's fun to hear everyone's

1590
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,920
different version and vision of what it

1591
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,119
should be and I have this was my 11th

1592
00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:39,680
fiesta days overseeing it as a council

1593
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,160
member and I've got to say it just gets

1594
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,720
better and better. I think the kinks are

1595
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,040
just getting ironed out every year and

1596
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,280
they're figuring out just how to get it

1597
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,359
to our residents more seamlessly. And

1598
00:57:51,359 --> 00:57:54,480
this year I didn't feel like there were

1599
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,680
many hiccups. Um, we have a group text.

1600
00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,760
Bronco and I are both on that with our

1601
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,520
committee. And we have an an exceptional

1602
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,760
executive committee that volunteers.

1603
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,079
They're at every single event and their

1604
00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:10,480
vision of what they wanted to see happen

1605
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,839
was executed so well. And I'm [snorts]

1606
00:58:13,839 --> 00:58:15,760
just proud of everyone, the employees. I

1607
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:17,040
know you guys have talked a lot about

1608
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,280
our police department, our city

1609
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,200
employees as a as a whole, especially

1610
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:22,960
our parks and recck department. than all

1611
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,200
of the volunteers, youth, city council,

1612
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,720
Miss Spanish Fork, just so many people.

1613
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:32,880
Um, this I never have, well, maybe once.

1614
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,599
I have never been able to make it to the

1615
00:58:35,599 --> 00:58:38,240
community theater because it's such a

1616
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,799
busy time and I'm exhausted by the end.

1617
00:58:40,799 --> 00:58:42,240
And I kept hearing about the Prince of

1618
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,680
Egypt, the Prince of Egypt, you've got

1619
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,119
to go. You've got to go. And so on

1620
00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:47,359
Saturday, I finally went and I was so

1621
00:58:47,359 --> 00:58:50,079
glad I went. It was phenomenal.

1622
00:58:50,079 --> 00:58:52,400
Yeah, it was really good. So, I think

1623
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:55,040
going to that was a highlight. Also, the

1624
00:58:55,040 --> 00:58:58,240
car show, um, biggest car show yet. We

1625
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:02,720
had 224 cars ended up registering, so

1626
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:06,559
that was a really big show. Great cars.

1627
00:59:06,559 --> 00:59:09,520
Super fun. I I liked that it was also

1628
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,319
the 25th of July. It just

1629
00:59:12,319 --> 00:59:15,359
>> like gave you room to do that day. And I

1630
00:59:15,359 --> 00:59:16,720
didn't have to be down there at noon or

1631
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:18,400
1. I could go at 9:00 a.m. when it was a

1632
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,480
little cooler. So, just lots of fabulous

1633
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,079
things. So, thank you everybody for

1634
00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:24,160
participating and and we will be having

1635
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,480
our debrief meeting in a couple weeks

1636
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,480
and figure out what what didn't work and

1637
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,960
what can we do better next year. So,

1638
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:32,400
thanks again.

1639
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:33,119
>> Beautiful.

1640
00:59:33,119 --> 00:59:35,119
>> Oh, I wanted to add on with the Chamber

1641
00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:37,119
of Commerce, Jesse and I was able to go

1642
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:39,440
to business of the month on Friday

1643
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,240
afternoon. It was at Squad Cabin. Squad

1644
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,720
Cabin is next to the smaller Walmart on

1645
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,720
the east side of town, a little closer

1646
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,640
to Jesse and I's house. Jesse had eaten

1647
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,160
there before. I hadn't. I just thought

1648
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:51,440
we're going to run in and do a quick

1649
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:53,119
little business of the month. But they

1650
00:59:53,119 --> 00:59:55,280
fed everyone lunch, so we spent an hour

1651
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,760
there. That food is phenomenal. It's

1652
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:04,559
Indian and Indo-Chinese cuisine.

1653
01:00:04,559 --> 01:00:06,799
Every single thing we ate was fabulous.

1654
01:00:06,799 --> 01:00:08,720
Right. Highly recommend it. They do

1655
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,839
takeout, dining in, great service,

1656
01:00:11,839 --> 01:00:14,400
delicious food. If you haven't tried it,

1657
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,000
give it a try. That's all.

1658
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,200
>> And business of the month.

1659
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,400
>> Yep. Business of the month.

1660
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,240
>> All right. Cool. Thank you, Councilwoman

1661
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:21,680
Beck. Councilman Marshall,

1662
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,040
>> it's fun to go last.

1663
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:23,760
>> Yes.

1664
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:27,040
>> Um ditto everything said. Um yesterday's

1665
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:28,559
was amazing. It always is. And and

1666
01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:31,680
you're right, the the staff and the um

1667
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,359
just everywhere you turn there's this

1668
01:00:33,359 --> 01:00:35,119
staff member just like put it in the

1669
01:00:35,119 --> 01:00:37,040
time, right? Sweat running down their

1670
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:41,520
face, whatever it might be. Um you know,

1671
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,520
horse stuff on their boots, whatever it

1672
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,240
might be. Like they're there to to put

1673
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,520
the work in and do the job. And it's amazing every single year. And I

1674
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,280
think you're right, Stacy, it's gotten

1675
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:52,799
better and better every year. And it's

1676
01:00:52,799 --> 01:00:54,400
because of the incredible community that

1677
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,040
we live in. Um, and it's, you know,

1678
01:00:57,040 --> 01:00:58,559
every time we talk about an investment

1679
01:00:58,559 --> 01:01:00,000
somewhere, we talk about the reason to

1680
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,040
invest is to bring the community

1681
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:02,799
together. And this is one of those times

1682
01:01:02,799 --> 01:01:06,000
where it just feels right. Right. You're

1683
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,400
walking down your little main street.

1684
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,480
And when I was growing up, you could, we

1685
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,720
had a place in the park where we sat

1686
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,000
every single time. And you don't need to

1687
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:15,440
go there. You could get there five

1688
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:16,720
minutes before the park. and the

1689
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:19,280
Marshall space was there.

1690
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:24,319
You can't do that now, right? You're there the day before sweating,

1691
01:01:24,319 --> 01:01:27,119
holding your place. Um Matt's group is

1692
01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:28,640
like, "All right, guys. Don't leave your

1693
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:32,640
spot." Like, it's a it's a lot of it's a different community, but it's

1694
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,559
still small. It still feels small on

1695
01:01:34,559 --> 01:01:36,799
that day or this last week. So, thank

1696
01:01:36,799 --> 01:01:37,920
you very much for that. Thank you for

1697
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,200
the volunteers. Thank you for the city

1698
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,160
staff. Um, I can't imagine having to

1699
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,799
wear the garb that your group has to

1700
01:01:44,799 --> 01:01:47,599
wear, chief. Like my my nephew is a is

1701
01:01:47,599 --> 01:01:49,119
an officer over in Salem and he comes

1702
01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:51,280
over and he he finished his shift and

1703
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,480
he's got his jacket on, his vest, and he

1704
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:55,760
pops that thing off and he's just

1705
01:01:55,760 --> 01:02:00,640
dripping wet like, man, that is that is rough. Um, but thank you for

1706
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,599
them. Um, their presence makes a

1707
01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:06,079
difference and it's you can feel it. You

1708
01:02:06,079 --> 01:02:08,160
feel the comfort. Um, there are a lot of

1709
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:09,440
people around. So, I appreciate that.

1710
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,160
And just again, can't say more good

1711
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:15,599
things about the way staff handles that week. So, congratulations.

1712
01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:17,200
>> Nice job.

1713
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:18,319
>> That's it. [snorts]

1714
01:02:18,319 --> 01:02:18,960
>> That's it.

1715
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:19,280
>> Yeah.

1716
01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:21,359
>> Okay. Perfect. Thank you.

1717
01:02:21,359 --> 01:02:24,960
>> Thank you everybody. Uh, I won't try to

1718
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,200
uh piggyback too much on on what's been

1719
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,760
said except in reference of of what

1720
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,079
Councilman Carden said, the the opening

1721
01:02:32,079 --> 01:02:35,119
of the the Pyro musical. if you weren't

1722
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:42,480
listening, that uh was a song um that I know well and that some people of

1723
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,520
my era know well. Bulls on Parade by

1724
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,619
Rage Against the Machine, part of the

1725
01:02:47,619 --> 01:02:50,559
[snorts] Evil Empire album, uh comes out

1726
01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:52,400
in 1996.

1727
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,000
And I'm getting a head nod back here.

1728
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:57,599
It's a fellow rocker back there. And um

1729
01:02:57,599 --> 01:03:00,720
in 1996, I was 16 years old. Mayor Marie

1730
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:03,520
Huff was the mayor of this fine city and

1731
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,160
she came pulling into Alan Huff's

1732
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:10,160
driveway which was a relative and and my

1733
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,640
good friend and you know Allan and she

1734
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,480
asked what are you guys doing today and

1735
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,319
we both looked at each other don't say

1736
01:03:16,319 --> 01:03:18,799
we're going to the concert come up with

1737
01:03:18,799 --> 01:03:20,799
anything else but that's where we were

1738
01:03:20,799 --> 01:03:23,039
going was to the concert and uh she

1739
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:24,400
probably knew it kind of because she

1740
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,160
said we ought to go to the concert it's

1741
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:29,839
going to be okay and um and it was Okay.

1742
01:03:29,839 --> 01:03:33,599
September 11th, uh, 2026 is going to be

1743
01:03:33,599 --> 01:03:36,319
30 years. I'm leaving it up to Bronco to

1744
01:03:36,319 --> 01:03:38,079
try to get the reunion tour put

1745
01:03:38,079 --> 01:03:41,359
together. Um, it's going to be tough,

1746
01:03:41,359 --> 01:03:44,000
but they're they're not a band anymore.

1747
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,720
But, uh, you know, part of that is, if

1748
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,280
you're listening to to what that is,

1749
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,400
that's a a an accident, a happy accident

1750
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:57,280
that happened in our city that it was like, you know, is now in the annals

1751
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:01,280
of history. Um, but I gauge what I do in

1752
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,760
government sometimes. And by the way, I

1753
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,480
think they were probably speaking ill of

1754
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:08,160
government. If you want to listen to

1755
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:15,280
Bulls on Parade, do it without kids. Uh, or or or, you know, get the edited

1756
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,960
track of it. But, um, I try to gauge

1757
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,920
things in in 16 years of service of not

1758
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,319
that long, 13 years of service of maybe

1759
01:04:24,319 --> 01:04:30,400
don't rage against the machine. it. We we had a pretty uh pretty big

1760
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,359
concerns and worries when that incident

1761
01:04:33,359 --> 01:04:36,400
happened here and what happened were a

1762
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:38,480
couple of tickets uh if I remember

1763
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,440
right, Chief. So, law enforcement again,

1764
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,559
it's already been said how good they uh

1765
01:04:44,559 --> 01:04:46,559
are and have been, but they were great

1766
01:04:46,559 --> 01:04:49,359
that day, too, to let a bunch of kids

1767
01:04:49,359 --> 01:04:51,520
run around and run into each other and

1768
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:53,520
probably use a lot of, you know, rough

1769
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,520
language. And then they gave out two

1770
01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:58,000
tickets and uh and the town didn't burn

1771
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,960
down. Like what was what was worried

1772
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,720
about? It was worried about looting

1773
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,240
burning down and what was going to

1774
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,079
happen. But this is a Southern

1775
01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:07,680
California band that went all over the

1776
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:10,799
country and uh toured for years and is in the Rock and Roll Hall

1777
01:05:10,799 --> 01:05:12,720
of Fame and they played in Spanish Fork.

1778
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,119
So it's actually pretty cool. Uh so

1779
01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:16,720
anyway, it was cool to have that start

1780
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,640
out that uh that uh firework uh uh

1781
01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,280
episode, the Pyro musical. And credit

1782
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,520
again to Mike Clayson of Pacific

1783
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,200
Horizon. He's been here already before,

1784
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:28,640
but they raise a ton of money to do

1785
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,160
that. So, it's pretty cool that

1786
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,480
businesses participate, make that

1787
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,880
happen, and everybody comes together to

1788
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,720
listen to some good music, but it

1789
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:38,160
started out with some really good music

1790
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,280
this year. So, very cool stuff. Um, the

1791
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:42,880
Grand Marshals, the Liyards were

1792
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:46,000
awesome. Um, the the social media team,

1793
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,079
Jack, your team of of releasing and

1794
01:05:48,079 --> 01:05:50,480
keeping people updated. It sure felt

1795
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,799
fresh that if you you know didn't know

1796
01:05:52,799 --> 01:05:54,160
what was going on, you should have

1797
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,400
known. Uh because we were telling you

1798
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,039
what was going on. So good uh good comms

1799
01:05:59,039 --> 01:06:01,280
out to to everybody and and uh I thought

1800
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,280
everybody had a good time. The the rodeo

1801
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,839
was was awesome as it always is. Thank

1802
01:06:05,839 --> 01:06:07,920
you everybody for for coming and and

1803
01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:11,359
packing that house. And um many many

1804
01:06:11,359 --> 01:06:14,480
contestants, many people come after the

1805
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:16,640
rodeo or during the rodeo to to Seth and

1806
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:18,960
I that get to sit in some of those uh

1807
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:20,480
different parts of it and let us know

1808
01:06:20,480 --> 01:06:23,039
how much they appreciate uh the Fiesta

1809
01:06:23,039 --> 01:06:25,520
Days rodeo and and the behind the scenes

1810
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,160
part of it too. the way we take care of

1811
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:29,760
families and contestants and those

1812
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,839
people that are traveling the road all

1813
01:06:31,839 --> 01:06:34,720
summer to to try to win not a lot of

1814
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:38,000
money. Honestly, it's crazy if they're into that gig, but they are

1815
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:39,359
and they are for our entertainment.

1816
01:06:39,359 --> 01:06:41,760
They're in it for the love, not to the

1817
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,760
Austin are going to do great, but they

1818
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:45,440
won't make it a lot of money at it. Um,

1819
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,319
but uh but it's fun to watch and and

1820
01:06:48,319 --> 01:06:50,799
that was fun to be with everybody. Um,

1821
01:06:50,799 --> 01:06:52,640
last thing I'll I'll have is I sent Jack

1822
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,160
some pictures of the county fair. The

1823
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:56,640
menden halls were intimately involved in

1824
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,960
the county fair this year because I've

1825
01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,280
got a brother who won't let up of my

1826
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,920
nine-year-old Jagger uh having some

1827
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:07,680
culture in the agriculture sphere. And

1828
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:09,440
uh so this was her his first year

1829
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,880
competing in the uh pig uh showing

1830
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:17,039
stuff. Um Bronco Hunter knows about this

1831
01:07:17,039 --> 01:07:19,200
as well. The whole Hunter family is a

1832
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,760
big name down there. But uh Jag took

1833
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:24,319
seventh in his class. Got a great That's

1834
01:07:24,319 --> 01:07:26,319
a pig whip there, Shane. That's what

1835
01:07:26,319 --> 01:07:28,079
that's called. A pig whip. You use it to

1836
01:07:28,079 --> 01:07:32,000
whip pigs. And uh then an IFA gift card

1837
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:32,720
there.

1838
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:33,760
>> Tell you that. Is that how you knew?

1839
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:35,599
>> No, I watched it. I watched it happen.

1840
01:07:35,599 --> 01:07:37,839
Who do you think taught him that? Uh

1841
01:07:37,839 --> 01:07:41,280
that buckle's huge. Uh but uh so fun to

1842
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,520
watch the kids and and his cousins do

1843
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,039
this down at the county fair that

1844
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:48,240
happened right after Fiesta Days. And um

1845
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,119
again, I've said it before, but if you

1846
01:07:51,119 --> 01:07:54,079
think agriculture or the the western way

1847
01:07:54,079 --> 01:07:57,280
or farming is dying in uh Spanish Fork,

1848
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,119
you need to put down your phone and you

1849
01:07:59,119 --> 01:08:01,680
need to go to a place like this and see

1850
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:03,920
how healthy it is. It is healthy. It's

1851
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,960
growing and it's an economic uh

1852
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,280
indicator as well. These businesses that

1853
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,520
support that. So cool to see all the

1854
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,079
banners up and kids from all over the

1855
01:08:14,079 --> 01:08:17,600
state uh competing and um and my brother

1856
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:19,600
Tyler says it best. You're raising kids,

1857
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,520
not animals. I think Bronco would attest

1858
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,080
to that with his family, but it's sure

1859
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,239
fun to see these kids do their thing and

1860
01:08:26,239 --> 01:08:28,159
congratulate each other. So, thank you

1861
01:08:28,159 --> 01:08:30,799
to Utah County for your partnership

1862
01:08:30,799 --> 01:08:32,480
during Fiesta Days and then with the

1863
01:08:32,480 --> 01:08:34,640
county fair after. Um, we've already

1864
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,239
talked about it again, but a lot of

1865
01:08:36,239 --> 01:08:38,239
investment, the public money going into

1866
01:08:38,239 --> 01:08:40,239
that facility down there to make it an

1867
01:08:40,239 --> 01:08:41,920
even better facility next year. I'm

1868
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,159
excited to see all that transpires down

1869
01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:46,319
there uh going forward into the future.

1870
01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:50,080
So, very cool stuff. Um,

1871
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,640
one last thing before uh we get on to

1872
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,080
too much and and she could have been

1873
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:56,400
part of this recognition parade that we

1874
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,359
just had here, but uh I I I I want to

1875
01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:02,000
bring her up now and uh and and tell her

1876
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:03,839
thanks and give her a minute to address

1877
01:09:03,839 --> 01:09:08,159
us uh as well. Um there's comes a time

1878
01:09:08,159 --> 01:09:11,679
in in um in service that uh that you

1879
01:09:11,679 --> 01:09:13,600
serve a term and and then you you do

1880
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:15,600
your thing and and move on. And this is

1881
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,120
kind of a person that we're like, man,

1882
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,560
we hope she never moves on. Um, but but

1883
01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:24,880
it's it's it's her time to move on and we appreciate her service. Uh,

1884
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,120
David, is that something you'd like to

1885
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:30,080
take from here to recognize an outgoing

1886
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:39,430
commissioner?

1887
01:09:39,440 --> 01:09:40,640
» I do need to save a little bit for

1888
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:41,759
tomorrow night,

1889
01:09:41,759 --> 01:09:43,359
>> so I'll be pretty quick.

1890
01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:45,759
>> Okay, good. Um Sean is going to be with

1891
01:09:45,759 --> 01:09:47,199
us for one more planning commission

1892
01:09:47,199 --> 01:09:51,679
meeting and uh she has been an absolute

1893
01:09:51,679 --> 01:09:55,040
rock. Uh she's gone to trainings outside

1894
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:58,320
of the planning commission meetings. Um

1895
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,920
she learned very very early on in her

1896
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:05,040
service about how to contribute and how

1897
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:06,560
to engage in different discussions and

1898
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:10,159
that type of a thing. Um, and you know,

1899
01:10:10,159 --> 01:10:12,000
that's probably how I would describe

1900
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,719
what she's done for the community as a

1901
01:10:14,719 --> 01:10:16,239
planning commissioner. She has

1902
01:10:16,239 --> 01:10:17,760
contributed that there have been some

1903
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,000
fairly weighty things that have been

1904
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:22,960
discussed over the course of past now

1905
01:10:22,960 --> 01:10:25,520
more than six years while she served as

1906
01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,600
a planning commissioner. Uh there's some

1907
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:31,280
work that still isn't done and I'll

1908
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:33,120
commit to keep her posted on how some

1909
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:36,719
things progress. Um but uh we've been

1910
01:10:36,719 --> 01:10:38,080
really fortunate over the years to have

1911
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:40,640
had some great planning commissioners

1912
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,320
and she's right there with the best of

1913
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,880
them and I mean that uh she's going to

1914
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,760
be missed. So it's it's uh it's great to

1915
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:49,760
see people have the opportunity to serve

1916
01:10:49,760 --> 01:10:53,520
and it's sad to to get to this point and

1917
01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,880
have to have to kind of say goodbye in

1918
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,199
one regard. So I appreciate the

1919
01:10:59,199 --> 01:11:00,719
opportunity to share that and again just

1920
01:11:00,719 --> 01:11:03,600
Shauna thank you very much.

1921
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,199
Perfect. Thank you, Dave. Shauna, will

1922
01:11:05,199 --> 01:11:06,480
you come up and let us give you a round

1923
01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:15,590
of applause and say a few words?

1924
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:20,320
That's so kind. I love Spanish Fork and

1925
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,080
uh

1926
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:25,520
it's when um I had been on the library

1927
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,520
board many years ago when my kids were

1928
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:31,600
small and I got a another call from uh

1929
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:35,040
to meet with Mayor Leon about six and a

1930
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:37,199
half years ago and went and sat down

1931
01:11:37,199 --> 01:11:39,520
with him and he said, "We'd like to

1932
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,120
invite you to be on the planning

1933
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:44,320
commission." And I said, "Sure." I have

1934
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,019
no idea what that is.

1935
01:11:46,019 --> 01:11:47,520
>> [laughter]

1936
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,280
>> But I love to help and I love to be

1937
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,679
involved in Spanish Fork City because uh

1938
01:11:51,679 --> 01:11:56,000
it's just awesome people and great uh a

1939
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,560
great place to be and I I just love to

1940
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:02,960
be a contributor and learn and just this

1941
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:04,960
is awesome and boy nothing strengthens

1942
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,280
your backbone like being on the planning

1943
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,599
commission and the school board

1944
01:12:09,599 --> 01:12:11,920
[laughter] and so I it's been a great

1945
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:16,159
experience for me. So thank you for the privilege. Thank you to all of

1946
01:12:16,159 --> 01:12:18,640
you who get to serve and and keep

1947
01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:20,640
serving. So, what a blessing. Thank you.

1948
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,000
>> Thank you, Shauna. I appreciate your

1949
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:24,080
service. Jack, can you get a picture if

1950
01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:25,840
Shauna stands up in front of us right

1951
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,760
here? I think we lost Pete for a minute,

1952
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,840
but Jesse, you might have something to

1953
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:31,280
say after we get a picture.

1954
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:31,840
>> That's okay.

1955
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,520
>> Are you Did you sit on planning

1956
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,440
commission with her?

1957
01:12:35,440 --> 01:12:38,080
>> Right here. Right in front. Picture of

1958
01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:39,920
this. We'll have to light a fire under

1959
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:45,270
Jack.

1960
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,280
be nimble. Jack, be quick. Is that

1961
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:48,800
what you're saying? Jack, jump over the

1962
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,840
candlestick if it's lit.

1963
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,990
>> Thank you so much.

1964
01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:57,199
» Mayor, I don't know that this is a

1965
01:12:57,199 --> 01:12:59,199
highlight for Shauna, but man, it sure

1966
01:12:59,199 --> 01:13:02,000
was a highlight for me. Um, this

1967
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:03,199
>> that she's leaving. You're not

1968
01:13:03,199 --> 01:13:07,600
>> No, sorry. That was a that was a pre uh

1969
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:10,880
preposition. Um she this memory I have

1970
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:12,239
Shauna you were we were in the old

1971
01:13:12,239 --> 01:13:13,600
council chamber so this is probably four

1972
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,040
or five years old probably within the

1973
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:17,600
first year or two of your service

1974
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:21,040
but there was some developer or some

1975
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:23,280
issue I can't remember what it was but

1976
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:26,640
the the applicant was really pushing

1977
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,800
hard on something and getting kind of

1978
01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:32,560
belligerent and and rude and I remember

1979
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,719
watching how Shauna handled that with

1980
01:13:34,719 --> 01:13:39,679
such grace and how she best stood stood

1981
01:13:39,679 --> 01:13:42,400
what her position or ground was and and

1982
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:44,239
holding firm to what she believed was

1983
01:13:44,239 --> 01:13:47,520
important and and not buckling to you

1984
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,280
know whatever I probably describe as a

1985
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,840
bullish bullyish type behavior. I don't

1986
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,040
know if you remember this. You probably

1987
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:56,000
have a few of these memories. Uh but I I

1988
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:57,440
remember watching that and just thinking

1989
01:13:57,440 --> 01:14:00,560
that's a rockstar right there. and and

1990
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,400
uh you know you have a few you have a

1991
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,080
few other things that you do where you

1992
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,320
get to experience the public in those

1993
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:08,640
settings and and issues that are tough

1994
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:11,520
but man handling those tough issues as a

1995
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:13,600
volunteer like you guys at least ran for

1996
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,920
it. We get you know we're staff members

1997
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,080
too that's totally different than

1998
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:19,679
somebody who got called in by the mayor

1999
01:14:19,679 --> 01:14:21,199
and said hey will you come do something

2000
01:14:21,199 --> 01:14:22,640
that you know nothing about and you have

2001
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,640
to deal with stuff like that. It's

2002
01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:26,400
always it's always impressive and and

2003
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,800
you did you did it with such grace and

2004
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,280
uh and knowledge. So great job. Thank

2005
01:14:31,280 --> 01:14:31,760
you.

2006
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,280
>> I had the opportunity to serve on the

2007
01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:34,640
planning commission with Shauna. And one

2008
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:35,920
of the things that I always appreciate

2009
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,320
about Shauna is that she always had

2010
01:14:38,320 --> 01:14:41,280
Spanish Fork as a whole their best at in

2011
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,120
mind. It didn't matter what the issue

2012
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,040
was, what was happening, she was worried

2013
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:46,640
about everyone in Spanish Fork and

2014
01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,159
making sure we made the right decision.

2015
01:14:48,159 --> 01:14:49,520
And it included what you just said,

2016
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,920
Seth, is it was calling a spade a spade

2017
01:14:51,920 --> 01:14:53,679
and saying, "Hey, let's let's back off

2018
01:14:53,679 --> 01:14:55,760
here. let's let's settle down. And there

2019
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:57,600
were a couple times where it got heated,

2020
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,159
but she was always good about

2021
01:15:00,159 --> 01:15:02,239
deescalating those situations, but also

2022
01:15:02,239 --> 01:15:04,400
asking really really good questions and

2023
01:15:04,400 --> 01:15:06,800
tough questions of those applicants

2024
01:15:06,800 --> 01:15:08,320
coming in and making sure that we got

2025
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,239
what was best for Spanish Fork. I'm

2026
01:15:10,239 --> 01:15:11,440
going to miss having you on this on the

2027
01:15:11,440 --> 01:15:12,560
planning commission. Thank you for your

2028
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:16,870
service.

2029
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:20,560
» Very good. That's a a a loss for the

2030
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,800
planning commission and uh and like Dave

2031
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:25,920
said, a rotational thing, but uh we can

2032
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:27,360
still be sad about losing you, Shauna,

2033
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:28,800
and we know you're not going far. You

2034
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,199
serve very well on our school board and

2035
01:15:31,199 --> 01:15:32,960
serve on on other committees and

2036
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:34,880
volunteer ways, too. So, we know we're

2037
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:36,719
not losing you fully, but uh we

2038
01:15:36,719 --> 01:15:38,719
appreciate really your service for so

2039
01:15:38,719 --> 01:15:40,080
many years on the planning commission.

2040
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,719
Good stuff.

2041
01:15:42,719 --> 01:15:46,400
Okay. Uh next on the agenda is staff

2042
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:48,080
reports. Uh

2043
01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:49,360
>> yeah, Mayor, just a couple of quick

2044
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:52,719
ones. Number one, what was your favorite memory from the

2045
01:15:52,719 --> 01:15:55,040
rodeo

2046
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:55,760
>> this year?

2047
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:58,640
>> Yeah. Anything with like animals or zoo

2048
01:15:58,640 --> 01:15:59,199
animals?

2049
01:15:59,199 --> 01:16:02,000
>> Um, no zoo animals, but uh

2050
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:03,440
>> What do you mean no zoo animals? I feel

2051
01:16:03,440 --> 01:16:04,880
like there's some tigers and bears.

2052
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:07,199
>> Yeah. Yeah, sometimes. Landon brought it

2053
01:16:07,199 --> 01:16:10,000
up. It was a pretty cool year to to put

2054
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,000
Joe Butler into the Hall of Fame. It was

2055
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:14,480
pretty cool. You're not supposed to see

2056
01:16:14,480 --> 01:16:16,640
uh Cowboys, especially ones that, you

2057
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:18,640
know, are dumb enough and tough enough

2058
01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:20,640
to get in front of bulls like that, get

2059
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:22,719
emotional, but Joe Butler got emotional.

2060
01:16:22,719 --> 01:16:24,080
I'll just say it on the record, record

2061
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,320
it. Joe Butler got emotional uh about

2062
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:27,760
being in the Hall of Fame and probably

2063
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,080
hanging up a a long career of doing what

2064
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:31,840
he did. And so, I thought that was that

2065
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:33,840
was really cool. He's a friend of of

2066
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,320
mine and and for him to get that honor

2067
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:36,640
was

2068
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:38,320
>> Yeah. I think he cried more there than

2069
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:40,239
he did when his wrist was sideways, his

2070
01:16:40,239 --> 01:16:41,840
nose was upside down, his eye was

2071
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:42,320
falling out.

2072
01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:45,040
>> Never seen him cry with that stuff. Yep.

2073
01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,199
>> So, one of my favorite memories was the

2074
01:16:47,199 --> 01:16:48,320
mayor coming over to me and saying,

2075
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,159
"Hey, Bear and Tiger Bachmire are

2076
01:16:50,159 --> 01:16:51,760
sitting right over there. We need to get

2077
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:54,000
them into the rodeo." I'm like, "Mayor,

2078
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,640
come on." He's like, "No, let's go." So

2079
01:16:56,640 --> 01:16:58,800
the mayor and I trot just trot on up to

2080
01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,360
Bear and Tiger and he coaxes them out of

2081
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:03,120
the stands onto the arena floor to

2082
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:05,199
participate in our what we might call a

2083
01:17:05,199 --> 01:17:06,800
halftime show as we're getting ready for

2084
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,520
the motorcycles to jump. It was really

2085
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:11,840
fun and they were they were super

2086
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:14,480
gracious and uh the crowd of course

2087
01:17:14,480 --> 01:17:17,199
loved it uh that night. But that was fun

2088
01:17:17,199 --> 01:17:18,880
to watch the mayor kind of do his thing.

2089
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:20,960
He totally flexed the mayor card like

2090
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:22,320
look guys you got to do it. I'm the

2091
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:24,080
mayor. I'm here asking you can't turn me

2092
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:26,000
down. We'll pull you over on the way

2093
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:26,320
out.

2094
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:27,840
>> Yeah. I mean, it's going to be the the

2095
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:29,520
end of the world for you. There's no NIL

2096
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:30,960
in it for you. I'm the mayor. This is

2097
01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,440
all free. You can write it off as a tax

2098
01:17:33,440 --> 01:17:36,000
deduction later. And whatever he did, he

2099
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:37,600
got him out there. We we had 10 minutes

2100
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:41,360
with him on the arena floor. Uh we last

2101
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:43,199
time we met, it was right after the 4th

2102
01:17:43,199 --> 01:17:46,560
of July. I think our 24th of July

2103
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:49,360
fireworks experience was just the same.

2104
01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:51,199
Um I'm going to look maybe to you, Matt.

2105
01:17:51,199 --> 01:17:53,679
We don't have Chief Hails here, but

2106
01:17:53,679 --> 01:17:56,080
seems like fireworks over the 24th was

2107
01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:57,840
pretty much the same, if not a little

2108
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:00,320
bit less in terms of actual fires that

2109
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,080
we fought. I I know our fire crews

2110
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,880
responded to some mutual aid fires in

2111
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:08,159
neighboring jurisdictions, but um is

2112
01:18:08,159 --> 01:18:10,000
that how you observed it with the calls

2113
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:11,280
that that you guys saw?

2114
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,320
>> No incidents, no citations issued. So,

2115
01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,719
big shout out to the residents and being

2116
01:18:16,719 --> 01:18:18,719
responsible. So, we appreciate it.

2117
01:18:18,719 --> 01:18:20,960
>> Yeah. any feedback that you guys have or

2118
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:23,040
that you received in regards to allowing

2119
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:25,440
fireworks. Again, we weren't necessarily

2120
01:18:25,440 --> 01:18:28,400
as maverick as maybe we were on the 4th

2121
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,960
of July, but but we were still somewhat

2122
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,199
unique in Utah County. Just just one

2123
01:18:33,199 --> 01:18:34,800
thing I would add is I feel like it was

2124
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:36,880
such success because in large part

2125
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:38,880
because of u the communication team

2126
01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:41,120
Jack's team and the you know their

2127
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:42,719
presence on social media and really

2128
01:18:42,719 --> 01:18:45,440
informing and they did some fun creative

2129
01:18:45,440 --> 01:18:47,280
uh campaigns and I felt like that went a

2130
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:50,719
long way and the map anyway

2131
01:18:50,719 --> 01:18:52,239
a lot of gratitude from residents that

2132
01:18:52,239 --> 01:18:54,640
we were that we allowed it that we kind

2133
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:56,960
of stuck with they love the fact that we

2134
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,120
were already in a spot where our

2135
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:01,679
restrictive map was basically un like it

2136
01:19:01,679 --> 01:19:03,360
was already made before this and we just

2137
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:05,199
stuck with it because they already knew

2138
01:19:05,199 --> 01:19:06,719
where they could rely on before but then

2139
01:19:06,719 --> 01:19:09,520
that we were able to still do that. Um,

2140
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,040
you know, they wanted me to thank the

2141
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,840
mayor and chief hell for for going with

2142
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:14,320
that.

2143
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,640
>> Perfect. Thank you. Any other comments

2144
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:19,360
on fireworks? Okay.

2145
01:19:19,360 --> 01:19:22,320
Well, that Thank you. Um,

2146
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,800
uh, we have started the demolition of

2147
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:26,560
the Willie Barn, which is the large

2148
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:30,320
indoor arena just behind the the outdoor

2149
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:36,640
arena where we have the rodeo. And that project is is underway to rebuild

2150
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:40,719
that arena um to a slightly bigger, but

2151
01:19:40,719 --> 01:19:43,840
more specifically a safer uh standard.

2152
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:47,360
the the building structure itself is is

2153
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:51,120
um I don't know it might be as old as

2154
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:52,880
it's not it's not as old as the country

2155
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,640
but it's probably it's older than the

2156
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,520
memories that Chad was sharing. Um so

2157
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:02,560
it's pretty old. Um it's going to be a

2158
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:04,320
pretty intense project. We're going to

2159
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:08,159
take it down and rebuild it before next

2160
01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:11,360
year's stock show which I think is

2161
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,840
midappril if I'm getting my dates right

2162
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:17,280
somewhere in 1 of April mid April. So

2163
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:18,719
it's going to be a pretty big effort to

2164
01:20:18,719 --> 01:20:21,040
get that thing built and and completed

2165
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:22,719
but we that's the plan that the

2166
01:20:22,719 --> 01:20:24,560
contractors certainly on board with

2167
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,040
that. So users around the fairgrounds

2168
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,920
will see that. Um users of the

2169
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:31,679
fairgrounds certainly know that because

2170
01:20:31,679 --> 01:20:34,159
if anybody has rented that facility in

2171
01:20:34,159 --> 01:20:36,239
the past, there is a blackout for the

2172
01:20:36,239 --> 01:20:37,679
next many months where they won't use

2173
01:20:37,679 --> 01:20:40,480
that. So just remind the council of that

2174
01:20:40,480 --> 01:20:42,000
uh that project's underway and it's a

2175
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,520
joint project with Utah County. We're

2176
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:44,880
grateful for their participation in

2177
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:47,679
helping to make that upgrade and and uh

2178
01:20:47,679 --> 01:20:49,920
that that upgrade possible.

2179
01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:51,440
>> Beth, real quick, I know we've talked

2180
01:20:51,440 --> 01:20:53,920
about timing on that one. Was it

2181
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,880
determined with the demo? Was everything

2182
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:58,640
being scrapped or were there any

2183
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:01,679
bleachers or gate panels or gates or

2184
01:21:01,679 --> 01:21:02,080
anything?

2185
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:04,080
>> Yeah. Anything that we could get out and

2186
01:21:04,080 --> 01:21:06,880
take out in a timely way, we did.

2187
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:08,480
>> U there have been a number of people

2188
01:21:08,480 --> 01:21:09,920
that have asked, hey, can I come and

2189
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:11,520
salvage this? Can I come and harvest

2190
01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:14,560
that? And the answer has been no. Um

2191
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:16,719
when when our experience has been if

2192
01:21:16,719 --> 01:21:18,080
somebody says, hey, I'm going to come

2193
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,719
and get this. We've got a eightmonth

2194
01:21:20,719 --> 01:21:21,920
window that we've got to get this thing

2195
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,480
done. we don't have any days to spare to

2196
01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:26,560
allow, let's say it's you, you know, to

2197
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,080
come in. Oh, hey, I I didn't quite get

2198
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:29,520
everything done today. I'll be here back

2199
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:31,120
on Monday. Like, there's just no room

2200
01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:32,159
for that.

2201
01:21:32,159 --> 01:21:33,920
>> So, we'll be able to scrap things, but

2202
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:35,760
not salvage it out to somebody who maybe

2203
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,400
wants to use it in another place. So,

2204
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:40,159
yeah, and I know there are a few people

2205
01:21:40,159 --> 01:21:41,600
that have expressed frustrations about

2206
01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:43,440
that, but we just don't have the time to

2207
01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:46,640
turn that around um and give that give

2208
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:47,840
that to somebody.

2209
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:48,560
>> Thank you.

2210
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,320
>> So, thank you for that question. Uh, I

2211
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:52,159
want to touch on the two maybe two quick

2212
01:21:52,159 --> 01:21:53,920
things uh that Councilman Oiler asked.

2213
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:55,840
One, can we have the pool open later for

2214
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:59,679
families? This has been something that staff has been talking about a lot.

2215
01:21:59,679 --> 01:22:01,840
when we opened up this pool, I think a

2216
01:22:01,840 --> 01:22:03,840
mistake that I made, and you know, I

2217
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,719
can't go back and remedy that today, but

2218
01:22:06,719 --> 01:22:08,960
if I could do this one over again, and

2219
01:22:08,960 --> 01:22:10,800
if I could advise a future city that's

2220
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:12,159
going to go through this process again,

2221
01:22:12,159 --> 01:22:16,639
I would say uh because I I would say

2222
01:22:16,639 --> 01:22:18,639
don't think that everything's going to

2223
01:22:18,639 --> 01:22:20,719
be just like last time. You know, we had

2224
01:22:20,719 --> 01:22:23,520
a pool that that rented out two windows

2225
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:27,120
of time and it was highly popular. In

2226
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:29,280
fact, it was I I think almost all

2227
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:32,560
rentals were taken by January 5th,

2228
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:34,320
opening on January 2nd. Like it was

2229
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:38,320
highly rented u at night. So when we

2230
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:40,480
opened up the pool, we as you guys know,

2231
01:22:40,480 --> 01:22:43,679
we set up two rental periods, an a early

2232
01:22:43,679 --> 01:22:46,960
evening and a later evening.

2233
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:48,800
The rental for this facility is

2234
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:52,000
different. And most rentals, if not

2235
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:56,400
every rental for that pool was the has

2236
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,199
been set for the first time, which is

2237
01:22:59,199 --> 01:23:01,679
like 7 o'clock, I think. And so we allow

2238
01:23:01,679 --> 01:23:05,360
for a little bit of a shutdown and then refresh and then it opens up

2239
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:07,840
for that rental. The majority of the

2240
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:11,440
rentals were have were purchased well

2241
01:23:11,440 --> 01:23:14,480
before the summer opened. And and so

2242
01:23:14,480 --> 01:23:16,639
when we started to get that feedback of

2243
01:23:16,639 --> 01:23:18,719
we want the pool open later. Oh, pausing

2244
01:23:18,719 --> 01:23:20,960
this. We also with the other pool, we

2245
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:22,480
did a lot of research. Scott the

2246
01:23:22,480 --> 01:23:23,920
librarian actually did this research

2247
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:26,639
when he was Scott the intern uh before

2248
01:23:26,639 --> 01:23:29,840
he was caught the firefighter. And uh we

2249
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:31,760
found that very few people came to the

2250
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:33,920
pool after five o'clock, like new

2251
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:35,600
patrons. And so we just didn't earn any

2252
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,400
new money, right? Uh, and so we carried

2253
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,199
I wrongly carried a lot of that logic

2254
01:23:41,199 --> 01:23:43,360
from how the pool operated to how we

2255
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,120
were going to operate this new outdoor

2256
01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:47,679
pool. So fast forward, we get into this

2257
01:23:47,679 --> 01:23:50,080
summer and the patrons are saying we

2258
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:51,840
want later times, we want later times

2259
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,639
and we hear that our challenge has been

2260
01:23:54,639 --> 01:23:57,520
especially Tuesday through

2261
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:00,320
uh Saturday that first rental period was

2262
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:03,440
for the most part taken on most days.

2263
01:24:03,440 --> 01:24:06,159
Um, and so to to make the pool open

2264
01:24:06,159 --> 01:24:08,239
later, we'd have to call all of those

2265
01:24:08,239 --> 01:24:10,480
rentals, cancel those, and and frustrate

2266
01:24:10,480 --> 01:24:14,080
people that are renting it. Um, that's

2267
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,080
not exactly the way or exactly the case

2268
01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:17,600
every night, but it is for most nights,

2269
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:19,360
Tuesday through Saturday. And I'll let

2270
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:20,480
Bronco kind of fill in some of the

2271
01:24:20,480 --> 01:24:23,040
blanks here in a sec. But that that's

2272
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:24,639
one of those things that you know what,

2273
01:24:24,639 --> 01:24:26,719
the old pool, I think if I could go

2274
01:24:26,719 --> 01:24:28,159
back, I we would probably say we're not

2275
01:24:28,159 --> 01:24:29,360
going to do two. We're only going to do

2276
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:31,280
one. and staff's already working through

2277
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:32,800
some different ways to handle next year

2278
01:24:32,800 --> 01:24:34,880
because it doesn't work the same and it

2279
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:36,239
shouldn't work the same. It's a totally

2280
01:24:36,239 --> 01:24:37,920
different machine, totally different

2281
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:39,360
beast. So, I think you'll you'll see a

2282
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,840
much better operation in balancing that

2283
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:45,280
for next year. And then we are seeing

2284
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,360
people use this pool, want to use this

2285
01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:49,440
pool in much different numbers after

2286
01:24:49,440 --> 01:24:51,679
five o'clock than last pool. Right.

2287
01:24:51,679 --> 01:24:54,880
Again, carrying the this is what how it

2288
01:24:54,880 --> 01:24:56,719
was last time is not how it's going to

2289
01:24:56,719 --> 01:24:58,080
be this time. And so, we're definitely

2290
01:24:58,080 --> 01:24:59,679
learning that. Bronco, what else would

2291
01:24:59,679 --> 01:25:01,280
you add to to that?

2292
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,600
>> I'm honestly as much to blame because I

2293
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:05,679
was heavily involved in the old pool and

2294
01:25:05,679 --> 01:25:07,920
what's crazy about it is, you know, we

2295
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:09,760
earmarked Monday nights as family night

2296
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:12,239
and we had extended hours to 8:00 and

2297
01:25:12,239 --> 01:25:14,639
during my time there, my experience, it

2298
01:25:14,639 --> 01:25:15,840
didn't get used. And so I actually

2299
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:18,560
turned that money at night into rental

2300
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:20,400
slots and uh

2301
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:21,920
>> we started doing swimming lessons at

2302
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:22,239
night.

2303
01:25:22,239 --> 01:25:23,520
>> We started doing swimming lessons at

2304
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:26,159
night to to try to utilize that body of

2305
01:25:26,159 --> 01:25:28,639
water. And so just appreciate the

2306
01:25:28,639 --> 01:25:30,000
public's patience as we're trying to

2307
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:32,960
learn a new location, a way bigger

2308
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,440
amenity, and we'll we'll continue to

2309
01:25:35,440 --> 01:25:37,280
make changes and and make it better as

2310
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:38,960
it goes. So appreciate the patience as

2311
01:25:38,960 --> 01:25:40,800
we learn too the process of running a

2312
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:42,639
facility this size.

2313
01:25:42,639 --> 01:25:45,040
>> I I don't think anybody's looking to

2314
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:47,120
blame anybody. And so, you know, I

2315
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:49,520
appreciate you wanting

2316
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:51,840
to take that on, right? But yeah, I

2317
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:53,600
don't think anybody's wanting to blame

2318
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:54,320
anybody for

2319
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,480
>> Have you read Facebook? We have,

2320
01:25:56,480 --> 01:25:58,639
>> some may, some may, and it's okay. We're

2321
01:25:58,639 --> 01:26:02,639
>> Yeah. No, you're I I appreciate that we're learning through this new

2322
01:26:02,639 --> 01:26:05,280
process and I hope the public

2323
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:07,520
understands that that how it is today

2324
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:08,880
doesn't mean that's how it's going to be

2325
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:10,800
forever. We can always learn from it and

2326
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:12,800
make adjustments going forward. So,

2327
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:17,199
>> and and in the old pool, we could have

2328
01:26:17,199 --> 01:26:19,120
somebody in the pavilion and somebody in

2329
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:20,800
the pool and then switch them out. And

2330
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:22,080
so you had an hour and a half to have

2331
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:23,920
your barbecue in the pool in the

2332
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:25,600
pavilion and then an hour and a half to

2333
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,280
swim. And that worked out really well.

2334
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:29,520
>> Now you can't have your barbecue and

2335
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:31,199
your swimming in the time block that we

2336
01:26:31,199 --> 01:26:32,960
have. It just doesn't work.

2337
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:35,280
>> So again, a total retool next year.

2338
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:36,639
>> You didn't have family passes. You

2339
01:26:36,639 --> 01:26:38,000
didn't like it's a whole different

2340
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:40,480
system. We're learning. I appreciate

2341
01:26:40,480 --> 01:26:44,000
>> not the it was my fault because we all

2342
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:45,760
said it makes sense too.

2343
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,000
>> Um but I appreciate the in the

2344
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,080
willingness to adapt and change. I mean,

2345
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:51,679
it's new to all of us and I

2346
01:26:51,679 --> 01:26:53,920
>> So, I'm with you, Kevin. Like, give us

2347
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:56,080
some patience

2348
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,000
>> and we will make some changes and move

2349
01:26:58,000 --> 01:26:59,199
forward with it. But I'm going to have

2350
01:26:59,199 --> 01:27:01,360
to say that, you know, the the the

2351
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:02,960
constant you're a bunch of idiots on

2352
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:04,560
Facebook does not help.

2353
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:05,520
>> No, not at all.

2354
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,280
>> If you have a if you want to talk to us

2355
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,199
and engage, come here, talk with us. Get

2356
01:27:09,199 --> 01:27:11,120
pick up the phone and give me a call and

2357
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:13,920
let's talk about why this, you know,

2358
01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,480
5-second you're a bunch of stupid

2359
01:27:16,480 --> 01:27:18,080
people. you don't know how to run a

2360
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:19,920
business on Facebook. Doesn't help at

2361
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:22,800
all. Not at all. Um there's some real

2362
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:24,400
challenges with it. It's, you know, new

2363
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,239
to all of us and and it gets better

2364
01:27:26,239 --> 01:27:27,760
every single week.

2365
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:28,000
>> Yeah.

2366
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:29,440
>> And it'll get better next year and and

2367
01:27:29,440 --> 01:27:31,520
we'll learn from it. But good.

2368
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:34,239
>> And I I I'm you know me, I'm a I'm a

2369
01:27:34,239 --> 01:27:37,360
rosy eyes kind of guy, but I love that

2370
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:39,040
people are complaining about that. Like

2371
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:40,560
that tells me with the complaints.

2372
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:42,239
>> Well, no, but that tells me how much

2373
01:27:42,239 --> 01:27:46,000
they love it, right? Like like that's pretty cool that they want more.

2374
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:48,159
So, I'm I'm happy. I'm

2375
01:27:48,159 --> 01:27:50,560
with you, though. Like, come on. Uh, we

2376
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:52,400
get some complaints. I know Councilwoman

2377
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:54,159
Beck saw the complaint about garbage and

2378
01:27:54,159 --> 01:27:59,520
it was like a come on Spanish work and garbage cans. Like, really? Like,

2379
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:00,800
>> I'm fine with the complaints, don't get

2380
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:01,199
me wrong.

2381
01:28:01,199 --> 01:28:01,440
>> Yeah.

2382
01:28:01,440 --> 01:28:03,040
I'm the tone, right?

2383
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:04,639
>> It's the tone. It's the

2384
01:28:04,639 --> 01:28:06,080
>> we're a bunch of idiots that we don't

2385
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:07,440
know how to do anything. But

2386
01:28:07,440 --> 01:28:08,800
>> Shane was not at the Rage Against

2387
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,560
Machine gun. 96.

2388
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:11,920
>> I really didn't even know was going on

2389
01:28:11,920 --> 01:28:12,320
too old.

2390
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:13,840
>> I'm like 96. What was I [clears throat]

2391
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:16,880
doing? you know, six kids, two jobs, and

2392
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:18,320
>> I've been there.

2393
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:18,960
>> Been there.

2394
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:20,560
>> We've only ever had three kids, by the

2395
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:20,800
way.

2396
01:28:20,800 --> 01:28:22,080
>> Oh,

2397
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:23,360
>> the second one.

2398
01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:25,920
>> Maybe continuing on, Councilman Oiler

2399
01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,000
mentioned the back parking lot. I Matt

2400
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:29,840
is wellversed in things that we're

2401
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:31,679
doing. Um, I don't know if you have

2402
01:28:31,679 --> 01:28:34,880
anything to add, but I I will say

2403
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:37,280
call,

2404
01:28:37,280 --> 01:28:38,639
you know, there have been some that have

2405
01:28:38,639 --> 01:28:40,320
sent emails and whatnot. in the moment.

2406
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:41,520
If somebody's got something and they're

2407
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,120
frustrated or worried about it, call the

2408
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:45,679
non-emergency dispatch line. And Matt,

2409
01:28:45,679 --> 01:28:46,800
you can give that number here in a

2410
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:48,880
second. We can put it on the screen as

2411
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,360
in the in the replay of this, but like

2412
01:28:51,360 --> 01:28:53,120
don't don't take a video and send

2413
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:55,760
something to you two days later. Like

2414
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:58,639
call the dispatch non-emergency line.

2415
01:28:58,639 --> 01:29:00,159
Our police officers will go there.

2416
01:29:00,159 --> 01:29:03,600
They'll they'll uh talk to the kids,

2417
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:05,280
help them get out. Nobody wants to bust

2418
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:07,920
the kids. Like that's not productive.

2419
01:29:07,920 --> 01:29:09,840
Uh, but our officers are really good at

2420
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:11,120
going talking to them, telling them,

2421
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,380
"Hey, your music's disturbing people and

2422
01:29:13,380 --> 01:29:15,760
[snorts] whatnot." But anything I know

2423
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:17,280
you guys have been there, checked it out

2424
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:26,390
a few times.

2425
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:30,239
» Did we kill it? We might have died.

2426
01:29:30,239 --> 01:29:31,840
>> Yeah, that that's I think that's what

2427
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:35,360
the sound has been. We we killed

2428
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:59,110
>> we've had officers.

2429
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:01,360
» Right.

2430
01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,040
That that's what I've that's what I've

2431
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:06,159
heard, chief, is an officer will come,

2432
01:30:06,159 --> 01:30:07,840
they'll all scatter, they'll take off.

2433
01:30:07,840 --> 01:30:09,760
It sounds like they go to the dugout and

2434
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:12,800
just hang out at the dugout and cause

2435
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:14,960
problems there. That's

2436
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:17,040
>> until the officer leaves and then they

2437
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:37,669
go back.

2438
01:30:37,679 --> 01:30:49,990
Thank you.

2439
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:51,627
» Great.

2440
01:30:51,627 --> 01:30:53,830
[cough]

2441
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:55,840
No, we

2442
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,000
yeah, we appreciate the officers that go

2443
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:00,480
down there and have to

2444
01:31:00,480 --> 01:31:02,320
struggle through that because it's it's

2445
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:04,320
ongoing, right? Especially in the summer

2446
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:06,719
months. But yeah. Yeah. Thank you. And

2447
01:31:06,719 --> 01:31:08,719
just Yeah. If you could keep us informed

2448
01:31:08,719 --> 01:31:11,600
on on any changes or any improvements

2449
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:15,760
that continue to make, appreciate it.

2450
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:16,880
>> Thank [snorts] you, Seth. Appreciate

2451
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:17,199
that.

2452
01:31:17,199 --> 01:31:19,120
>> Yeah. And and I think we we've got a few

2453
01:31:19,120 --> 01:31:20,400
more things that we're we're tinkering

2454
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:23,760
with. Uh, candidly, I'm okay, really

2455
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:26,080
okay with

2456
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,960
um somebody if they're worried about it,

2457
01:31:28,960 --> 01:31:31,120
calling and having our officers go. The

2458
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:33,280
more our officers end up going, I mean,

2459
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:35,600
especially if it's within, you know,

2460
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:38,320
it's not an emergency, so it's not a 911

2461
01:31:38,320 --> 01:31:40,080
call, but if it gets if it's a non

2462
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:41,600
non-emergency call, it ends up on their

2463
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:44,080
CAD and an officer will get there, that

2464
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:45,840
becomes disruptive to the patterns of

2465
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:47,360
what those teenagers are doing. And

2466
01:31:47,360 --> 01:31:48,400
eventually, they're like, "Let's get out

2467
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:49,440
of here. We're going to pace him."

2468
01:31:49,440 --> 01:31:50,580
>> Yeah. Well, And it sounds

2469
01:31:50,580 --> 01:31:52,000
[clears throat] like, and chief, you can

2470
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:53,920
correct me. Sorry. Got you. Sounds like

2471
01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:56,239
it's not just teenagers, though. It

2472
01:31:56,239 --> 01:32:00,870
sounds like they're

2473
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:04,400
» Yeah. 18 to

2474
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:05,199
>> Right.

2475
01:32:05,199 --> 01:32:07,440
>> 18 to 25 roughly, right?

2476
01:32:07,440 --> 01:32:08,000
>> Yeah.

2477
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:10,320
>> And and they're in the for the most

2478
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:13,760
part, they're just gathering. They

2479
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:16,000
listen to loud music.

2480
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:17,520
uh sometimes they're a little bit

2481
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:20,960
vandalous, if that's a word. Um and and

2482
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:23,520
that they they disrupt the park more so

2483
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:25,760
than than other things.

2484
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:27,440
>> Yeah. Talk to Taylor and Taylor says

2485
01:32:27,440 --> 01:32:30,080
they're constantly clean garbage out of

2486
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:30,960
that parking lot.

2487
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:33,520
>> Yeah. But uh you know, you're probably

2488
01:32:33,520 --> 01:32:35,760
not going to stop the behavior. Frankly,

2489
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:37,440
it might be just move it to some other

2490
01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:37,920
town,

2491
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:39,199
>> which I am totally happy.

2492
01:32:39,199 --> 01:32:43,920
>> Right. Take your turn. Sign up. Pac's

2493
01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:46,800
got some beautiful parking lots.

2494
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:48,159
>> No lights.

2495
01:32:48,159 --> 01:32:49,760
>> Anyways, that's it, mayor. Thank you.

2496
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:50,639
>> What's up with that?

2497
01:32:50,639 --> 01:32:53,990
>> Thank you. [laughter]

2498
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:56,079
» This is what we do when you don't come.

2499
01:32:56,079 --> 01:32:58,000
[laughter]

2500
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:01,270
>> Yeah.

2501
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:01,840
» Whatever.

2502
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:02,400
>> You're right.

2503
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:05,430
>> No, you're not. [laughter]

2504
01:33:05,440 --> 01:33:07,840
» Okay. Next session of the agenda is

2505
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:12,400
Spanish Fork 101. Um we have uh some uh

2506
01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:16,639
some survey uh information that uh same

2507
01:33:16,639 --> 01:33:18,080
some some of the information we went

2508
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:20,639
over in the work session right Tara. So

2509
01:33:20,639 --> 01:33:23,440
similar stuff here and uh we appreciate

2510
01:33:23,440 --> 01:33:25,679
our guests here tonight and live pass it

2511
01:33:25,679 --> 01:33:25,920
over to

2512
01:33:25,920 --> 01:33:28,480
>> Tara

2513
01:33:28,480 --> 01:33:30,239
historic preservation commission.

2514
01:33:30,239 --> 01:33:32,639
There's four members from the staff that

2515
01:33:32,639 --> 01:33:34,159
are on that and then there's four

2516
01:33:34,159 --> 01:33:36,400
members of the community. And one of the

2517
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:38,960
goals of that commission was to do a

2518
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:42,159
reconnaissance level survey. That survey

2519
01:33:42,159 --> 01:33:44,639
um was able to happen because we were

2520
01:33:44,639 --> 01:33:47,120
able to receive a grant from the state

2521
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:49,440
historic preservation office. That's a

2522
01:33:49,440 --> 01:33:51,600
matching grant and so Spanish Fork paid

2523
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:53,760
half of that grant and that has been

2524
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,800
completed. So we would love to invite uh

2525
01:33:56,800 --> 01:34:01,120
Chalet Larson from IO landark and um she

2526
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:02,960
will give us those results and those

2527
01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:05,840
things that the the reasons why the b

2528
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:09,280
the residents could benefit from it.

2529
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:11,199
>> Thank you Tara.

2530
01:34:11,199 --> 01:34:12,000
>> Hi Shalai.

2531
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:14,080
>> Thank you Tara. It's good to see all of

2532
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,560
you again. Uh update on the husband

2533
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,480
child sports schedule. He failed to get

2534
01:34:18,480 --> 01:34:20,575
the younger child to baseball practice

2535
01:34:20,575 --> 01:34:22,000
[laughter]

2536
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:23,600
>> and now it's on the public record.

2537
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:25,280
but

2538
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:27,199
they canled it at the last minute, so he

2539
01:34:27,199 --> 01:34:29,280
was saved.

2540
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:31,600
>> It worked out really well for him. Um

2541
01:34:31,600 --> 01:34:34,159
anyway, uh yeah, so I uh my name is

2542
01:34:34,159 --> 01:34:37,440
Chalet Larson. I'm the principal of IO

2543
01:34:37,440 --> 01:34:40,080
Land Arc. We are a design, planning, and

2544
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:42,480
historic preservation consulting firm.

2545
01:34:42,480 --> 01:34:45,840
Um and we are very passionate about what

2546
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:48,159
we do. We love to help communities tell

2547
01:34:48,159 --> 01:34:50,880
their stories and preserve their unique

2548
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:52,800
cultural history and sense of identity

2549
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:55,280
and place. And Spanish Fork is amazing

2550
01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:56,719
and honestly just sitting here through

2551
01:34:56,719 --> 01:34:59,760
your city council meeting and just I

2552
01:34:59,760 --> 01:35:01,840
feel the love you I want to move here.

2553
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:04,560
[laughter] It's amazing. Um but yeah,

2554
01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:05,840
thank you. Thank you so much for the

2555
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:07,360
opportunity to do this. I just want to

2556
01:35:07,360 --> 01:35:09,120
give you kind of a high level and for

2557
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:11,199
the community a high level overview of

2558
01:35:11,199 --> 01:35:14,000
our findings and our recommendations. So

2559
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:17,360
um there's a clicker

2560
01:35:17,360 --> 01:35:20,159
So the the agenda for this presentation

2561
01:35:20,159 --> 01:35:22,080
um acknowledgements project summary and

2562
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:24,000
methodology statistical summary and

2563
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,880
analysis recommendations and then do we

2564
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:29,679
have time is this is a Q&A or do you

2565
01:35:29,679 --> 01:35:32,000
>> well we already kind

2566
01:35:32,000 --> 01:35:34,080
>> you are welcome to ask more questions if

2567
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:35,520
you have more additional follow-up

2568
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:39,600
questions. Um and uh this was again it

2569
01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:41,120
was such a privilege to work on this

2570
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:44,960
project. Uh we we really enjoyed working

2571
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:47,840
with Spanish Fork City. Uh Tara and

2572
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:51,040
Tyler were both amazing to work with. Um

2573
01:35:51,040 --> 01:35:52,880
thank you to the Historic Preservation

2574
01:35:52,880 --> 01:35:54,960
Commission for all all the work that you

2575
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,280
do. And for the homeowners, um we didn't

2576
01:35:57,280 --> 01:35:58,560
talk to a lot of homeowners. That wasn't

2577
01:35:58,560 --> 01:35:59,760
necessarily part of our scope of work,

2578
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:01,199
but those who came out and talked to us

2579
01:36:01,199 --> 01:36:03,040
while we were doing the survey, uh we

2580
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:08,080
really enjoyed chatting with th those people. So um and then also a

2581
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:09,920
recognition of our friends at the state

2582
01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:11,600
historic preservation office. I'm not

2583
01:36:11,600 --> 01:36:16,880
sure which screen to look at. Getting whiplash. Um so they they've

2584
01:36:16,880 --> 01:36:19,679
been a a great resource through this

2585
01:36:19,679 --> 01:36:25,199
process. Uh so the um the purpose of a

2586
01:36:25,199 --> 01:36:30,960
reconnaissance level survey is to get a a highlevel overview of what are the

2587
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:32,960
historic resources in this community.

2588
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:35,440
And when we talk about history, you

2589
01:36:35,440 --> 01:36:37,920
know, history is an abstraction for a

2590
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:39,440
lot of people. A lot of people don't

2591
01:36:39,440 --> 01:36:40,800
think about history on a day-to-day

2592
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:42,639
basis. They don't think, you know, I

2593
01:36:42,639 --> 01:36:43,840
mean, I know there are some people that

2594
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:48,080
are really into genealogy, but for the average community member, um,

2595
01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:50,480
being able to connect with historic

2596
01:36:50,480 --> 01:36:53,679
buildings and historic places is a very

2597
01:36:53,679 --> 01:36:56,159
tactile physical way to to really

2598
01:36:56,159 --> 01:36:58,320
connect with your own that that sense of

2599
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:01,440
place and community pride. And the the

2600
01:37:01,440 --> 01:37:03,280
first, you know, the first step in

2601
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:07,520
preserving those that that physical

2602
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:10,239
uh that physical history of your

2603
01:37:10,239 --> 01:37:12,880
community is to go to that high level

2604
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:15,440
and and evaluate, okay, what do we have?

2605
01:37:15,440 --> 01:37:18,480
What's the condition of it? Um and and

2606
01:37:18,480 --> 01:37:21,040
are we could we maybe create a historic

2607
01:37:21,040 --> 01:37:23,360
district?

2608
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:27,440
Um, so the outcomes of this effort, um,

2609
01:37:27,440 --> 01:37:30,000
we updated the state historic

2610
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:31,920
preservation office database. So we gave

2611
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:33,840
them GIS files that have all of the

2612
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:36,719
data, uh, that that we evaluated for the

2613
01:37:36,719 --> 01:37:39,360
properties. Um, we we walked the

2614
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:42,480
community. We put in a lot of a a lot of

2615
01:37:42,480 --> 01:37:45,600
miles um on foot. Uh, we stayed on the

2616
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:46,880
public sidewalk. We didn't go into

2617
01:37:46,880 --> 01:37:48,800
people's properties and we just took

2618
01:37:48,800 --> 01:37:51,119
photos of of all of the properties from

2619
01:37:51,119 --> 01:37:55,119
the street and we evaluated them for um

2620
01:37:55,119 --> 01:37:58,000
their plan type, the the architectural

2621
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:01,119
style and the integrity of of each

2622
01:38:01,119 --> 01:38:02,880
property and whether it was contributing

2623
01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:05,199
or non contributing to the historic

2624
01:38:05,199 --> 01:38:09,679
district. Um and let's see. Um and then

2625
01:38:09,679 --> 01:38:11,760
you know at the outcome of this process

2626
01:38:11,760 --> 01:38:13,360
hopefully we'll provide information that

2627
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:15,600
would help facilitate the creation of

2628
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:19,119
historic districts in Spanish Fork.

2629
01:38:19,119 --> 01:38:22,159
Um so just some quick terminology. Uh

2630
01:38:22,159 --> 01:38:25,199
the way that we one of the ways that we

2631
01:38:25,199 --> 01:38:28,639
identify and sort of um categorize

2632
01:38:28,639 --> 01:38:31,119
historic structures is by their period

2633
01:38:31,119 --> 01:38:33,199
of significance. What was happening

2634
01:38:33,199 --> 01:38:35,199
culturally in terms of the broad layers

2635
01:38:35,199 --> 01:38:37,199
and patterns of history? what was

2636
01:38:37,199 --> 01:38:39,520
happening at the time that these

2637
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:42,560
buildings were originally constructed.

2638
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:46,480
And for the for this community, we

2639
01:38:46,480 --> 01:38:48,000
identified the following periods of

2640
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:49,199
significance. I'm not going to go into

2641
01:38:49,199 --> 01:38:52,000
these in a lot of detail. Uh but we have

2642
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:54,159
European settlement or the European

2643
01:38:54,159 --> 01:38:57,199
settlement period. Um this is the the

2644
01:38:57,199 --> 01:39:01,119
initial um the initial explorers that

2645
01:39:01,119 --> 01:39:04,800
came to this valley um in 1776 through

2646
01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:08,080
1849. Then we have town expansion and

2647
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:10,159
early farmsteads. So this is really the

2648
01:39:10,159 --> 01:39:13,440
pioneer uh era of settlement. And then

2649
01:39:13,440 --> 01:39:15,760
modernization, consolidation and the

2650
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:18,320
warriors. So a lot of uh this period is

2651
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:20,719
commonly associated with Victorian

2652
01:39:20,719 --> 01:39:22,239
homes. But there's a number of other

2653
01:39:22,239 --> 01:39:25,119
styles in there as well. Um then we have

2654
01:39:25,119 --> 01:39:27,280
the inter war growth and the bungalow

2655
01:39:27,280 --> 01:39:30,800
era period from 1919 through 1944. So

2656
01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:32,320
this is kind of the period between the

2657
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:35,920
two uh the two world wars. Um and then

2658
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:40,000
post-war expansion 1945 through 1959. Um

2659
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:41,679
and then the civic and cultural

2660
01:39:41,679 --> 01:39:46,159
development period of 1960 through 1981

2661
01:39:46,159 --> 01:39:48,719
and the modern era. Um which is

2662
01:39:48,719 --> 01:39:50,800
basically everything that is ineligible.

2663
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:54,000
Um it's not old enough yet to be uh

2664
01:39:54,000 --> 01:39:58,400
listed as part of a historic district.

2665
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:01,520
Uh so here are a couple of uh existing

2666
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:03,520
National Register of Historic Place

2667
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:05,119
listings that already exist in the

2668
01:40:05,119 --> 01:40:07,600
survey area. The David H. Jones House

2669
01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:11,040
and the Spanish Fork City Hall uh former

2670
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:14,320
Thurber School.

2671
01:40:14,320 --> 01:40:16,159
Uh so as we were evaluating these

2672
01:40:16,159 --> 01:40:18,320
properties, we evaluated approximately

2673
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:24,080
600 uh properties. Um and the overall

2674
01:40:24,080 --> 01:40:26,800
distribution of so basically we looked

2675
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:28,639
at every property and we said could this

2676
01:40:28,639 --> 01:40:31,679
property if it first first off is it

2677
01:40:31,679 --> 01:40:33,040
inside the period or is it outside the

2678
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:35,040
period? So if if it's in one of those

2679
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:36,400
periods of significance that we

2680
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:38,000
identified

2681
01:40:38,000 --> 01:40:40,719
uh then is it does it maintain

2682
01:40:40,719 --> 01:40:44,480
integrity? Um so does it represent uh

2683
01:40:44,480 --> 01:40:49,040
the the original characteristics of that building when it was built

2684
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:51,760
originally? Um, some properties end up

2685
01:40:51,760 --> 01:40:54,400
being ineligible because major changes

2686
01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:56,400
have been made to them such as being

2687
01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:59,679
resided with vinyl sighting or uh major

2688
01:40:59,679 --> 01:41:01,600
additions being added or roof lines

2689
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:03,760
being changed. Basically, major changes

2690
01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:06,159
to the building. So, approximately we're

2691
01:41:06,159 --> 01:41:09,440
just over the 50% threshold. We have 275

2692
01:41:09,440 --> 01:41:11,199
properties that we identified as

2693
01:41:11,199 --> 01:41:14,719
eligible or contributing to a potential

2694
01:41:14,719 --> 01:41:17,920
historic district and then 263 that we

2695
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:20,400
identified as in ineligible and

2696
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:24,000
non-contributing and 67 that were out of

2697
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:28,480
outside of the period. So

2698
01:41:28,480 --> 01:41:31,679
um when we look at the construction

2699
01:41:31,679 --> 01:41:34,639
dates by period of significance uh the

2700
01:41:34,639 --> 01:41:37,840
vast majority of the buildings um were

2701
01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:39,600
built during that inter war period of

2702
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:45,840
1919 through 1944 followed by uh 139 143

2703
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:50,320
properties in the 1945 through 19559

2704
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:53,040
postworld war II period and then the

2705
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:55,600
late Victorian early 20th century.

2706
01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:58,800
Um, the one thing that we noticed, and

2707
01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:01,040
you'll see this in an upcoming map, is

2708
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:02,880
that in a lot of communities, you see

2709
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:04,800
very distinct growth rings with the

2710
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:06,560
oldest buildings being located more

2711
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:09,440
towards the the central area of

2712
01:42:09,440 --> 01:42:12,480
settlement and then later buildings

2713
01:42:12,480 --> 01:42:14,480
being added around the periphery. It was

2714
01:42:14,480 --> 01:42:17,119
very interesting in Spanish Fork. Um, a

2715
01:42:17,119 --> 01:42:19,040
lot of development that has occurred

2716
01:42:19,040 --> 01:42:20,880
throughout all of these periods has been

2717
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:23,119
very intermixed. So what what we've seen

2718
01:42:23,119 --> 01:42:26,560
is a pattern of redevelopment and infill

2719
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:29,280
rather than constantly pushing outward,

2720
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:32,400
which is which is kind of cool. Um

2721
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:34,239
because you you can you can have a lot

2722
01:42:34,239 --> 01:42:36,159
of different architectural styles right

2723
01:42:36,159 --> 01:42:38,080
next to each other. Um but it's also

2724
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:41,199
very challenging from uh establishing a

2725
01:42:41,199 --> 01:42:43,360
clear district boundaries standpoint,

2726
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:44,719
which we'll talk about in a minute with

2727
01:42:44,719 --> 01:42:47,760
our recommendations.

2728
01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:50,400
Um, but one of the biggest takeaways

2729
01:42:50,400 --> 01:42:53,440
from our survey is that taken together

2730
01:42:53,440 --> 01:42:55,840
when we look at the the plan type and

2731
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:57,920
the architectural style, the data

2732
01:42:57,920 --> 01:42:59,440
suggests that the survey area developed

2733
01:42:59,440 --> 01:43:01,520
as a cohesive residential environment

2734
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:03,920
rooted in working and middle class

2735
01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:06,800
occupancy particularly particularly

2736
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:08,560
during the inter war and postworld war

2737
01:43:08,560 --> 01:43:11,119
II periods. Rather than being defined by

2738
01:43:11,119 --> 01:43:13,119
a single architectural style or period

2739
01:43:13,119 --> 01:43:15,119
of high style design, this area is

2740
01:43:15,119 --> 01:43:17,199
characterized by the continuity of

2741
01:43:17,199 --> 01:43:19,119
modest housing types across multiple

2742
01:43:19,119 --> 01:43:21,840
decades. So, it's a very it's a very

2743
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:26,000
working-class family oriented community.

2744
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:28,159
Um, here are a couple of the maps that

2745
01:43:28,159 --> 01:43:31,119
we generated. So, the map on the left,

2746
01:43:31,119 --> 01:43:36,320
um, you uh, shows the eligible and the

2747
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:40,000
ineligible properties. Um, and you can

2748
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:42,960
see how really dispersed the eligible

2749
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:44,800
properties are throughout the study

2750
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:48,000
area. And then on the right, we we have

2751
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:51,760
Oh, I bumped it. Um, the periods of

2752
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:55,040
significance are identified by the the

2753
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:57,840
key the colors there indicated. And you

2754
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:00,000
can see on this map there's no clear

2755
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:01,760
pattern. They're very much all mixed

2756
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,560
together.

2757
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:08,159
Um so what is you know how what does

2758
01:44:08,159 --> 01:44:12,159
this mean for the community? Um this

2759
01:44:12,159 --> 01:44:15,679
means that the city has the potential to

2760
01:44:15,679 --> 01:44:20,000
nominate uh parts of of this study area

2761
01:44:20,000 --> 01:44:22,719
for national and potentially local

2762
01:44:22,719 --> 01:44:26,239
historic districts. Um, the benefits of

2763
01:44:26,239 --> 01:44:28,480
listing a property or a group of

2764
01:44:28,480 --> 01:44:30,639
properties on the National Register of

2765
01:44:30,639 --> 01:44:33,440
Historic Districts includes number one,

2766
01:44:33,440 --> 01:44:35,840
first and foremost, recognition and

2767
01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:37,280
neighborhood pride. You get a cool

2768
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:39,040
plaque, you get to brag to your your

2769
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:40,719
friends and neighbors, people who come

2770
01:44:40,719 --> 01:44:42,880
to visit, you know, get to read. Um, I

2771
01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:44,320
live in historic house and I have a cool

2772
01:44:44,320 --> 01:44:46,000
plaque and strangers stop in my front

2773
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:47,920
yard all the time and read read my

2774
01:44:47,920 --> 01:44:51,119
plaque. I love it every time. I it um

2775
01:44:51,119 --> 01:44:53,520
it's it's it's such a great feeling. um

2776
01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:56,239
but the the financial benefits. So there

2777
01:44:56,239 --> 01:44:58,880
are um rehabilitation tax credits

2778
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:01,920
available to help offset the cost of re

2779
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:04,800
maintaining and restoring uh old old

2780
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:07,920
historic homes. Um there are also this

2781
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:10,639
you know doing this would potentially

2782
01:45:10,639 --> 01:45:13,280
open up additional grants and loans

2783
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:14,800
available.

2784
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:18,239
Um there is um building code leniency

2785
01:45:18,239 --> 01:45:21,199
with with regards to the IBC. Um there's

2786
01:45:21,199 --> 01:45:23,360
potential local zoning variances for

2787
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:25,119
conditional uses, like if someone wanted

2788
01:45:25,119 --> 01:45:26,960
to to turn a house into a bed and

2789
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:30,000
breakfast. Um things like that. Uh and

2790
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:31,840
then and then there's a whole wealth of

2791
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:33,679
information for historic property owners

2792
01:45:33,679 --> 01:45:36,719
about uh rehabilitation advice and best

2793
01:45:36,719 --> 01:45:40,320
practices. Um the important thing to

2794
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:43,600
differentiate is that if you do a

2795
01:45:43,600 --> 01:45:47,199
national register uh listing, there are

2796
01:45:47,199 --> 01:45:49,360
no restrictions. There are no outright

2797
01:45:49,360 --> 01:45:51,520
restrictions associated with that.

2798
01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:53,199
There's no board or commission that you

2799
01:45:53,199 --> 01:45:55,600
have to go to if you want to do

2800
01:45:55,600 --> 01:45:57,520
something to your property, if you want

2801
01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:00,320
to repaint it or if you want to replace

2802
01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:02,560
windows or if you want to to do

2803
01:46:02,560 --> 01:46:05,920
something with the exterior. Um however,

2804
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:07,679
if the city did decide to move forward

2805
01:46:07,679 --> 01:46:09,840
with a local historic district and

2806
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:13,600
establish um design standards that would

2807
01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:16,480
then be codified, uh then there would be

2808
01:46:16,480 --> 01:46:18,400
some kind of board or review process

2809
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:20,239
that property owners would need to go

2810
01:46:20,239 --> 01:46:22,639
through in order to make changes to

2811
01:46:22,639 --> 01:46:26,320
their historic structures.

2812
01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:28,400
Um so I mentioned the historic

2813
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:31,840
preservation tax credits. Uh the there's

2814
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:33,600
two different ones. There's a local and

2815
01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:36,239
a federal. So the local is through the

2816
01:46:36,239 --> 01:46:40,000
state of Utah. It's 20% of all of your

2817
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:43,119
eligible uh building rehabilitation

2818
01:46:43,119 --> 01:46:45,840
costs uh that in the form of a tax

2819
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:48,480
credit. Um and these apply to

2820
01:46:48,480 --> 01:46:50,400
residential property. So either owner

2821
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:53,440
occupied or residential rentals.

2822
01:46:53,440 --> 01:46:57,119
There's also a 20% federal tax credit

2823
01:46:57,119 --> 01:47:00,080
that is available for income producing

2824
01:47:00,080 --> 01:47:04,000
properties. So, if you have a a rental a

2825
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:08,719
residential rental property, you can you

2826
01:47:08,719 --> 01:47:10,639
can receive both tax credits. So, you

2827
01:47:10,639 --> 01:47:12,880
can um you can receive a tax credit for

2828
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,440
potentially up to 40% of your eligible

2829
01:47:15,440 --> 01:47:19,119
rehabilitation costs.

2830
01:47:19,119 --> 01:47:21,679
Um so, the next steps like I said this

2831
01:47:21,679 --> 01:47:24,639
was this was the first step and congrat

2832
01:47:24,639 --> 01:47:26,639
congratulations for achieving that

2833
01:47:26,639 --> 01:47:29,920
milestone. Um, we are we have a number

2834
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:32,239
of recommendations that I the next

2835
01:47:32,239 --> 01:47:35,280
slides will kind of go into more detail

2836
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:37,520
on, but the first and foremost is that

2837
01:47:37,520 --> 01:47:42,239
we're recommending a um nominating the a

2838
01:47:42,239 --> 01:47:44,560
main street district to the National

2839
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:48,159
Register of Historic Places. And we feel

2840
01:47:48,159 --> 01:47:50,560
like this would go a long ways towards

2841
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:53,840
um incentivizing and supporting those

2842
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:55,280
business owners and property owners

2843
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:57,760
along Main Street and really creating a

2844
01:47:57,760 --> 01:47:59,920
vibrant Main Street and community core

2845
01:47:59,920 --> 01:48:02,159
and potentially boosting things like

2846
01:48:02,159 --> 01:48:05,199
heritage tourism and sense of community

2847
01:48:05,199 --> 01:48:07,760
pride in place.

2848
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:10,239
Um the next step would be some kind of

2849
01:48:10,239 --> 01:48:13,040
multiple uh property submission. So

2850
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:14,639
rather than a physical district

2851
01:48:14,639 --> 01:48:17,360
boundary, we would we would take um

2852
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:20,480
thematic listings uh based on those

2853
01:48:20,480 --> 01:48:22,320
different architectural styles or

2854
01:48:22,320 --> 01:48:24,320
periods of significance that we

2855
01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:26,400
identified and we would we would do a

2856
01:48:26,400 --> 01:48:29,040
listing or multiple listings potentially

2857
01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:32,320
based on type. So this approach

2858
01:48:32,320 --> 01:48:34,320
establishes shared historic context and

2859
01:48:34,320 --> 01:48:35,840
eligibility criteria allowing the

2860
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:38,400
nomination of small of individual

2861
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:41,910
properties.

2862
01:48:41,920 --> 01:48:45,199
Um, and then there's also at an even

2863
01:48:45,199 --> 01:48:48,320
smaller scale, we identify 12 individual

2864
01:48:48,320 --> 01:48:51,520
properties that we think it's it's worth

2865
01:48:51,520 --> 01:48:54,159
pursuing individual listings on. And

2866
01:48:54,159 --> 01:48:56,239
honestly, there there's even there's

2867
01:48:56,239 --> 01:48:57,840
more than that. I think there's so many

2868
01:48:57,840 --> 01:48:59,679
great buildings in here, but these are

2869
01:48:59,679 --> 01:49:02,080
these were 12 that really jumped out uh

2870
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:04,960
to us. Um, and and any homeowner at any

2871
01:49:04,960 --> 01:49:07,840
time can individually pursue a National

2872
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:11,040
Register nomination on their own. Um, so

2873
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:12,719
it doesn't that doesn't mean the city

2874
01:49:12,719 --> 01:49:18,639
has to do it, but but if you know if you chose to not pursue the other two

2875
01:49:18,639 --> 01:49:20,639
options, we would at least recommend

2876
01:49:20,639 --> 01:49:22,400
that you move forward with these um

2877
01:49:22,400 --> 01:49:25,520
intensive level surveys and individual

2878
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:27,440
na national register nominations just to

2879
01:49:27,440 --> 01:49:29,360
get more buildings placed on the

2880
01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:34,080
national register at the local level.

2881
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:37,199
Um, and then this is an ongoing process.

2882
01:49:37,199 --> 01:49:40,000
So buildings change over time. We have

2883
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:41,920
you know deterioration, we have

2884
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:43,920
remodels, changes happening,

2885
01:49:43,920 --> 01:49:46,000
redevelopment happening constantly. So

2886
01:49:46,000 --> 01:49:48,159
it's very important that a survey like

2887
01:49:48,159 --> 01:49:50,320
this now you have the foundational data.

2888
01:49:50,320 --> 01:49:52,960
So every 10 to 15 years having a a

2889
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:55,760
consultant come through and reservey the

2890
01:49:55,760 --> 01:49:57,280
property and make the appropriate

2891
01:49:57,280 --> 01:50:02,550
adjustments is recommended.

2892
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:05,360
Um and then

2893
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:07,280
uh maintaining survey data and

2894
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:10,000
preservation planning recommendations.

2895
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:12,400
Um so we're also recommending that the

2896
01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:15,119
city move forward with creating some

2897
01:50:15,119 --> 01:50:17,600
kind of broader community preservation

2898
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:20,560
plan. Um, and this would allow you to

2899
01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:23,679
codify how, well, first off, this would

2900
01:50:23,679 --> 01:50:26,960
allow you to really engage the community

2901
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:28,639
and see where the community is at and

2902
01:50:28,639 --> 01:50:31,600
how they're feeling about their

2903
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:33,760
architectural history uh, in the

2904
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:36,400
community and and what types of

2905
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:38,400
strategies they would like to implement

2906
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:40,560
or see implemented and what kind of

2907
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:44,480
tools uh, that that you can then codify

2908
01:50:44,480 --> 01:50:47,040
to help preserve this history before

2909
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:48,800
it's gone. because once it's once it's

2910
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:51,920
gone, it's gone forever. Um, so this

2911
01:50:51,920 --> 01:50:53,360
would allow you to establish clear

2912
01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:55,840
policies for identification, evalu

2913
01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:57,760
evaluation, and protection of historic

2914
01:50:57,760 --> 01:51:01,040
resources. Um, if you established local

2915
01:51:01,040 --> 01:51:02,800
historic districts, you could create

2916
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:05,600
design guidelines for rehabilitation,

2917
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:07,840
additions, and things like new infill

2918
01:51:07,840 --> 01:51:10,480
construction within historic areas that

2919
01:51:10,480 --> 01:51:11,840
are aligned with the Secretary of the

2920
01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:13,440
Interior standards for the treatment of

2921
01:51:13,440 --> 01:51:16,159
historic properties. Um, this would give

2922
01:51:16,159 --> 01:51:17,679
you an opportunity to look at strategies

2923
01:51:17,679 --> 01:51:19,679
for managing change, including

2924
01:51:19,679 --> 01:51:22,320
compatible infill and adaptive reuse.

2925
01:51:22,320 --> 01:51:25,360
Um, and I potentially identify priority

2926
01:51:25,360 --> 01:51:29,760
resources or at risk areas. Um, and it's

2927
01:51:29,760 --> 01:51:32,719
integration of preservation goals into

2928
01:51:32,719 --> 01:51:34,480
broader planning and zoning frameworks

2929
01:51:34,480 --> 01:51:35,760
because everything that you do needs to

2930
01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:38,239
come back to your general plan and and

2931
01:51:38,239 --> 01:51:43,280
all and and your zoning ordinance. So

2932
01:51:43,280 --> 01:51:46,159
um and best practices in preservation

2933
01:51:46,159 --> 01:51:47,920
planning emphasize flexibility and

2934
01:51:47,920 --> 01:51:50,560
incentives over regulation alone. So

2935
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:53,280
it's it's it's a layered approach. Um

2936
01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:56,159
obviously having if you do choose to

2937
01:51:56,159 --> 01:52:02,320
pursue um local codification of historic

2938
01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:04,000
resources

2939
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:07,520
um then you know then you can have that

2940
01:52:07,520 --> 01:52:09,520
tool in your your tool belt. that

2941
01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:12,320
shouldn't preclude

2942
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:14,719
good public education, good community

2943
01:52:14,719 --> 01:52:19,280
outreach, um and and and trying to uh

2944
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:24,080
prioritize incentives over um over heavy

2945
01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:27,679
regulation, I should say. Um and and a

2946
01:52:27,679 --> 01:52:29,599
lot of that can come from the financial

2947
01:52:29,599 --> 01:52:34,709
incentives that I mentioned earlier.

2948
01:52:34,719 --> 01:52:37,520
So that is where we're at. Any

2949
01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:39,119
questions?

2950
01:52:39,119 --> 01:52:40,880
Lelay, I've got one question, I guess.

2951
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:42,560
If we've got a homeowner that has a

2952
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:46,080
rental that's outside of the survey area

2953
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:49,119
that wants to try and rehabilitate their

2954
01:52:49,119 --> 01:52:51,199
home in in a way to take advantage of

2955
01:52:51,199 --> 01:52:53,920
the tax credits, are they able to even

2956
01:52:53,920 --> 01:52:55,360
though they're not part of the survey

2957
01:52:55,360 --> 01:52:55,920
area?

2958
01:52:55,920 --> 01:52:59,760
>> Um, they would. So,

2959
01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:03,040
in unless you move forward with a group

2960
01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:05,760
listing of some sort, a na a historic

2961
01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:08,080
district designation, no one is

2962
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:08,719
technically.

2963
01:53:08,719 --> 01:53:09,119
>> Okay.

2964
01:53:09,119 --> 01:53:11,760
>> Um but if you do move forward with a

2965
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:13,440
national historic district designation,

2966
01:53:13,440 --> 01:53:15,119
then it would only include whatever

2967
01:53:15,119 --> 01:53:16,960
properties you decide to draw into that

2968
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:20,480
boundary. Um if they are outside of the

2969
01:53:20,480 --> 01:53:24,400
boundary area, um it depends on how far

2970
01:53:24,400 --> 01:53:27,360
outside the boundary area they are. like

2971
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:30,159
I I don't see why they couldn't

2972
01:53:30,159 --> 01:53:33,520
potentially be included in um one of

2973
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:36,080
those thematic nominations that we

2974
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:39,199
talked about. Um but but typically you

2975
01:53:39,199 --> 01:53:45,360
would just work off of what's already been done. Um so the the

2976
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:47,119
foundation of the properties that have

2977
01:53:47,119 --> 01:53:48,320
been surveyed because that initial

2978
01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:50,880
step's been done. However, anyone

2979
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:52,560
anywhere in the state of Utah, anywhere

2980
01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:54,480
in the United States, can list

2981
01:53:54,480 --> 01:53:56,639
individually list their property on the

2982
01:53:56,639 --> 01:53:58,960
National Register of Historic Places.

2983
01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:00,960
So, if that's something that a property

2984
01:54:00,960 --> 01:54:03,040
owner is interested in, uh, I would

2985
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:06,159
highly encourage that. Um, and it's the

2986
01:54:06,159 --> 01:54:08,080
State Historic Preservation Office is a

2987
01:54:08,080 --> 01:54:09,920
great resource. You can hire a

2988
01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:12,080
consultant to do that for you or you can

2989
01:54:12,080 --> 01:54:14,159
do the research on your own and fill out

2990
01:54:14,159 --> 01:54:16,800
the form and submit the nomination. Um,

2991
01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:18,960
lots lots of homeowners have diyed, you

2992
01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:20,080
know, done their done their own

2993
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:22,159
nominations, so it's it's not

2994
01:54:22,159 --> 01:54:24,719
impossible. Um, but yeah, that that

2995
01:54:24,719 --> 01:54:26,159
would be the rout route I would

2996
01:54:26,159 --> 01:54:27,199
recommend.

2997
01:54:27,199 --> 01:54:29,719
>> Thank you.

2998
01:54:29,719 --> 01:54:31,750
[snorts]

2999
01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:36,310
» Any other questions for Chalet?

3000
01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:38,719
» Blacks are pretty cool.

3001
01:54:38,719 --> 01:54:40,159
Like what you said, people knocking on

3002
01:54:40,159 --> 01:54:42,080
your door saying that's pretty cool.

3003
01:54:42,080 --> 01:54:44,080
>> Yeah. No. Well, so far not very many

3004
01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:47,040
people have knocked, but I see them

3005
01:54:47,040 --> 01:54:47,599
camera.

3006
01:54:47,599 --> 01:54:49,199
>> Yeah, I just look out my front windows

3007
01:54:49,199 --> 01:54:49,840
and Yeah.

3008
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:51,040
>> And people think I'm weird because I

3009
01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:53,440
have no curtains on my [laughter]

3010
01:54:53,440 --> 01:54:55,760
on my living spaces in my house. But no,

3011
01:54:55,760 --> 01:54:58,239
it's it's great. We And the people walk

3012
01:54:58,239 --> 01:54:59,280
up and down the street all the time

3013
01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:00,719
because all the houses on my street have

3014
01:55:00,719 --> 01:55:02,239
plaques.

3015
01:55:02,239 --> 01:55:03,920
>> It's really fun.

3016
01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:05,920
>> Cool.

3017
01:55:05,920 --> 01:55:07,520
>> Thank you for that information. I

3018
01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:12,960
appreciate it. And uh Tara, watch for more coming. We had a little

3019
01:55:12,960 --> 01:55:15,199
bit in this in the work session of a

3020
01:55:15,199 --> 01:55:17,199
discussion of this too. So uh stay

3021
01:55:17,199 --> 01:55:18,639
tuned. Spanish Fork, we'll have some

3022
01:55:18,639 --> 01:55:20,800
more discussion on this in the future.

3023
01:55:20,800 --> 01:55:22,320
We appreciate you coming down and and

3024
01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:24,239
visiting us. Thanks. Thanks for making

3025
01:55:24,239 --> 01:55:25,760
the trip. Chalet.

3026
01:55:25,760 --> 01:55:28,239
>> Mayor, we will also be putting this on

3027
01:55:28,239 --> 01:55:30,880
the website so that everybody can see

3028
01:55:30,880 --> 01:55:31,199
it.

3029
01:55:31,199 --> 01:55:33,360
>> Perfect. We'll be connected. I'll bet

3030
01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:36,560
Jack's already got some little video

3031
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:38,639
stewing in his

3032
01:55:38,639 --> 01:55:39,520
creative.

3033
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:44,080
>> Creative fire brain over there. Okay.

3034
01:55:44,080 --> 01:55:47,920
Takes us to the eighth uh part of our

3035
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:50,480
agenda, the consent items. There's one,

3036
01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:54,560
two, three, four, five items on the

3037
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:57,199
consent agenda. If there's no questions

3038
01:55:57,199 --> 01:55:58,880
for the consent items, I'd entertain a

3039
01:55:58,880 --> 01:56:02,080
motion approving the consent items.

3040
01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:03,040
>> So moved.

3041
01:56:03,040 --> 01:56:05,760
>> Motion made by Councilwoman Beck.

3042
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:09,119
>> Second. Second by Councilman Tuk. All in

3043
01:56:09,119 --> 01:56:10,159
favor say yes.

3044
01:56:10,159 --> 01:56:10,880
>> Yes.

3045
01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:13,280
>> Consent items are approved. Takes us to

3046
01:56:13,280 --> 01:56:15,599
new business. Ordinance to create a

3047
01:56:15,599 --> 01:56:18,000
provisional business license. Mr. David

3048
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,800
G. Anderson. Mr. Mayor. Thank you. In

3049
01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:22,400
July, we discussed with the council the

3050
01:56:22,400 --> 01:56:24,960
need to sanction

3051
01:56:24,960 --> 01:56:26,800
business activity in situations where

3052
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:28,639
businesses are not yet eligible to

3053
01:56:28,639 --> 01:56:31,599
receive business licenses. Uh this

3054
01:56:31,599 --> 01:56:33,679
provisional business license is the idea

3055
01:56:33,679 --> 01:56:36,320
that came out of that discussion.

3056
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:38,239
And there's been a slight modification

3057
01:56:38,239 --> 01:56:40,080
to draft language that we talked about

3058
01:56:40,080 --> 01:56:43,840
that night um again back in July uh

3059
01:56:43,840 --> 01:56:46,320
where we've added um in addition to some

3060
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:48,239
really simple criteria that would have

3061
01:56:48,239 --> 01:56:49,920
to be met for a business to be eligible

3062
01:56:49,920 --> 01:56:52,480
for a provisional business license a

3063
01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:55,520
lifespan for the license with the draft

3064
01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:58,400
that is prepared here. I appreciate Mr.

3065
01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:00,000
Urkart putting it up there. just the

3066
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:03,040
language there under 54170.

3067
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:04,320
That's really all that it is that would

3068
01:57:04,320 --> 01:57:06,639
be added to title five of the municipal

3069
01:57:06,639 --> 01:57:09,360
code. Um

3070
01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:12,639
I've inserted 30 days again as the

3071
01:57:12,639 --> 01:57:14,719
lifespan for a provisional business

3072
01:57:14,719 --> 01:57:18,719
license for the particular issue that um

3073
01:57:18,719 --> 01:57:21,199
we've been dealing with recently

3074
01:57:21,199 --> 01:57:23,280
um that we'd like to address with this

3075
01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:24,960
30 days I think is an adequate amount of

3076
01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:27,520
time. Mr. parents and I discussed on

3077
01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:31,119
Monday the value potentially of maybe

3078
01:57:31,119 --> 01:57:33,119
having it to be 60 days instead of 30.

3079
01:57:33,119 --> 01:57:35,280
Um there are some other situations where

3080
01:57:35,280 --> 01:57:37,119
we can envision this being a useful tool

3081
01:57:37,119 --> 01:57:39,280
where it might be helpful to to have

3082
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:41,920
this this license last for more than 30

3083
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:44,719
days. Um but uh we're here tonight to

3084
01:57:44,719 --> 01:57:47,679
recommend that this be adopted, you

3085
01:57:47,679 --> 01:57:49,840
know, maybe with the council considering

3086
01:57:49,840 --> 01:57:56,000
that 30 or up to 60 days as being um

3087
01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:57,119
uh whatever you think is most

3088
01:57:57,119 --> 01:57:58,719
appropriate. Again, I think 30 days

3089
01:57:58,719 --> 01:58:01,040
probably is good. 60 days um obviously

3090
01:58:01,040 --> 01:58:02,159
that allows for a little bit more

3091
01:58:02,159 --> 01:58:04,400
flexibility, but we appreciate the

3092
01:58:04,400 --> 01:58:05,920
opportunity to have something like this

3093
01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:08,000
to put into play just to make it easier

3094
01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:09,599
for new businesses to get up and

3095
01:58:09,599 --> 01:58:12,080
running. Um, that's really what this is

3096
01:58:12,080 --> 01:58:16,070
about.

3097
01:58:16,080 --> 01:58:17,199
» Questions for Dave about this?

3098
01:58:17,199 --> 01:58:18,960
>> How long did it take? Was it 10 days for

3099
01:58:18,960 --> 01:58:21,119
that company to get their provisional?

3100
01:58:21,119 --> 01:58:22,880
>> We just know that it was less than 30.

3101
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:24,400
We couldn't nail down their exact date

3102
01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:28,480
when they made application. So,

3103
01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:35,280
I don't find it a good argument to be down to 30 if if we think 60 gives

3104
01:58:35,280 --> 01:58:38,320
us enough wiggle room. I think uh if

3105
01:58:38,320 --> 01:58:39,679
we're talking to businesses and trying

3106
01:58:39,679 --> 01:58:41,760
to get going

3107
01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:42,000
>> it's

3108
01:58:42,000 --> 01:58:43,920
>> not anything we can't change later if we

3109
01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:44,639
need to.

3110
01:58:44,639 --> 01:58:46,480
>> If it's 30 days we can they can extend,

3111
01:58:46,480 --> 01:58:47,599
right? They can do another one.

3112
01:58:47,599 --> 01:58:48,880
>> There's nothing here that says they

3113
01:58:48,880 --> 01:58:50,639
can't. So that I thought about that as

3114
01:58:50,639 --> 01:58:50,880
well.

3115
01:58:50,880 --> 01:58:58,470
>> So yeah, I think we're good.

3116
01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:00,560
» Okay. If there's no other questions uh

3117
01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:03,360
for Dave, I'd entertain a motion. I move

3118
01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:04,960
to approve the proposed ordinance to

3119
01:59:04,960 --> 01:59:07,679
create provisional business licenses.

3120
01:59:07,679 --> 01:59:10,000
>> Motion made by Councilman Carden.

3121
01:59:10,000 --> 01:59:10,560
>> Second.

3122
01:59:10,560 --> 01:59:12,639
by Councilman Marshall. A roll

3123
01:59:12,639 --> 01:59:14,000
call vote. Councilman Tuk.

3124
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:14,320
>> Yes.

3125
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:15,199
>> Councilman Carden.

3126
01:59:15,199 --> 01:59:15,520
>> Yes.

3127
01:59:15,520 --> 01:59:16,320
>> Councilman Oiler?

3128
01:59:16,320 --> 01:59:16,560
>> Yes.

3129
01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:17,599
>> Councilwoman Beck?

3130
01:59:17,599 --> 01:59:18,000
>> Yes. And

3131
01:59:18,000 --> 01:59:18,960
>> Councilman Marshall?

3132
01:59:18,960 --> 01:59:20,400
>> Yes.

3133
01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:24,080
>> 9.1's approved. Takes us to 9.2 personal

3134
01:59:24,080 --> 01:59:26,880
personnel policy definitions

3135
01:59:26,880 --> 01:59:28,960
update.

3136
01:59:28,960 --> 01:59:32,639
>> Mr. Jacobson. No middle name. Tyler

3137
01:59:32,639 --> 01:59:36,870
>> P.

3138
01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:39,280
» Thanks, guys. Uh,

3139
01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:41,040
>> we we're gonna go back in time just a

3140
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:42,719
little bit for this one. So, just across

3141
01:59:42,719 --> 01:59:44,480
the hall in the heritage room, the

3142
01:59:44,480 --> 01:59:45,840
library actually has a program where

3143
01:59:45,840 --> 01:59:47,840
they have a time machine. So, we're

3144
01:59:47,840 --> 01:59:50,000
going back about 12 years ago, the

3145
01:59:50,000 --> 01:59:54,800
Affordable Care Act uh became uh it it

3146
01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:58,080
became enacted and we uh had to make

3147
01:59:58,080 --> 02:00:00,080
sure to follow that at the city. So, we

3148
02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:02,560
changed our policy. Um and one of those

3149
02:00:02,560 --> 02:00:05,920
changes was that the Affordable Care Act

3150
02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:08,719
required for all employees that were not

3151
02:00:08,719 --> 02:00:12,159
benefited. Um in order to work

3152
02:00:12,159 --> 02:00:15,440
part-time, they had to work um less than

3153
02:00:15,440 --> 02:00:18,000
130 hours in a month. So they call that

3154
02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:19,520
the look back period. You can choose a

3155
02:00:19,520 --> 02:00:22,880
look back period of a month or a year.

3156
02:00:22,880 --> 02:00:26,719
Um and at the time we chose uh chose to

3157
02:00:26,719 --> 02:00:29,280
go with a month. Over the last 12 years,

3158
02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:33,840
there have been some changes and uh to

3159
02:00:33,840 --> 02:00:36,560
make it a little bit more flexible for

3160
02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:39,280
our part-time employees to work, we need

3161
02:00:39,280 --> 02:00:41,920
to change the language in um in our

3162
02:00:41,920 --> 02:00:43,840
current personnel policy. So, what's

3163
02:00:43,840 --> 02:00:45,679
before you is a is a proposition that

3164
02:00:45,679 --> 02:00:48,000
would make it possible to do a look back

3165
02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:53,199
of a full year or uh or 1560 hours. So

3166
02:00:53,199 --> 02:00:54,719
we would ensure that employees would

3167
02:00:54,719 --> 02:00:57,119
work less than560

3168
02:00:57,119 --> 02:01:00,080
hours in a year. And what this does is

3169
02:01:00,080 --> 02:01:02,000
um so for example, if you have an

3170
02:01:02,000 --> 02:01:03,280
employee who works quite a bit in the

3171
02:01:03,280 --> 02:01:06,880
summertime, but then in the winter um

3172
02:01:06,880 --> 02:01:08,800
not not as many hours in a week, it

3173
02:01:08,800 --> 02:01:11,119
makes it possible for them to work uh

3174
02:01:11,119 --> 02:01:14,000
more in the summer when it's needed than

3175
02:01:14,000 --> 02:01:17,119
uh later on in the year when um when

3176
02:01:17,119 --> 02:01:19,280
there may not be as much work for that

3177
02:01:19,280 --> 02:01:21,760
uh employee to do. So, the proposal

3178
02:01:21,760 --> 02:01:23,679
that's before you, the language that has

3179
02:01:23,679 --> 02:01:25,679
changed is the definition for a

3180
02:01:25,679 --> 02:01:27,199
part-time employee. So, we'd be getting

3181
02:01:27,199 --> 02:01:29,840
rid of um three definitions. We'd

3182
02:01:29,840 --> 02:01:31,920
replace, sorry, let me rephrase that.

3183
02:01:31,920 --> 02:01:33,520
We'd replace the part-time employee

3184
02:01:33,520 --> 02:01:36,320
definition. We would get rid of the the

3185
02:01:36,320 --> 02:01:38,000
seasonal employee and the variable

3186
02:01:38,000 --> 02:01:40,080
employee definition, and we would have

3187
02:01:40,080 --> 02:01:42,960
one category called part-time employee.

3188
02:01:42,960 --> 02:01:45,119
Um, this will make it easier to

3189
02:01:45,119 --> 02:01:50,320
administer the Affordable Care Act and hopefully make it easier for our

3190
02:01:50,320 --> 02:01:52,320
employees, our supervisors to schedule

3191
02:01:52,320 --> 02:01:54,639
employees. Um, one of the questions you

3192
02:01:54,639 --> 02:01:56,320
may have is does this have a fiscal

3193
02:01:56,320 --> 02:01:59,280
impact? Um, employees would still have

3194
02:01:59,280 --> 02:02:01,199
to work within the budget that they've

3195
02:02:01,199 --> 02:02:04,639
been given. Um, so we don't anticipate

3196
02:02:04,639 --> 02:02:07,119
that. There certainly could be some uh

3197
02:02:07,119 --> 02:02:10,320
requests in the future where supervisors

3198
02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:11,840
ask if they can have their employees

3199
02:02:11,840 --> 02:02:13,679
work more hours, but as of right now,

3200
02:02:13,679 --> 02:02:15,840
they would have to work

3201
02:02:15,840 --> 02:02:18,719
that time that's budgeted.

3202
02:02:18,719 --> 02:02:24,000
Any questions though on on this?

3203
02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:27,119
>> Questions for Tyler?

3204
02:02:27,119 --> 02:02:27,920
>> Okay, Tyler.

3205
02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:31,040
>> Thanks. Appreciate that. Good update. I

3206
02:02:31,040 --> 02:02:34,400
would entertain a motion to approve uh

3207
02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:36,080
item 9.3.

3208
02:02:36,080 --> 02:02:38,400
>> I move to approve the personnel policy

3209
02:02:38,400 --> 02:02:39,920
definitions.

3210
02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:43,440
>> Motion made by Councilman Oiler.

3211
02:02:43,440 --> 02:02:44,080
>> Second.

3212
02:02:44,080 --> 02:02:46,239
by Councilwoman Beck. A roll call

3213
02:02:46,239 --> 02:02:48,080
vote here. Councilman Marshall. Yes.

3214
02:02:48,080 --> 02:02:50,159
>> Councilwoman Beck. Councilman Oiler.

3215
02:02:50,159 --> 02:02:50,400
>> Yes.

3216
02:02:50,400 --> 02:02:51,280
>> Councilman Carden?

3217
02:02:51,280 --> 02:02:51,760
>> Yes.

3218
02:02:51,760 --> 02:02:52,960
>> And Councilman Tuk?

3219
02:02:52,960 --> 02:02:54,800
>> Yes.

3220
02:02:54,800 --> 02:02:58,880
>> That is approved. Uh takes us to 10.

3221
02:02:58,880 --> 02:03:02,000
discussion tonight before we adjourn to

3222
02:03:02,000 --> 02:03:02,320
closed

3223
02:03:02,320 --> 02:03:06,070
>> meeting

3224
02:03:06,080 --> 02:03:07,360
bottom there.

3225
02:03:07,360 --> 02:03:11,040
>> Excuse me. [snorts] Yeah, I marked it.

3226
02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:12,719
>> Okay.

3227
02:03:12,719 --> 02:03:14,320
9.3 is board and commission

3228
02:03:14,320 --> 02:03:16,639
appointments. Uh David, is that

3229
02:03:16,639 --> 02:03:19,679
something you want to mention? And then

3230
02:03:19,679 --> 02:03:22,239
I can

3231
02:03:22,239 --> 02:03:24,159
politic it if I need to. I mean, some of

3232
02:03:24,159 --> 02:03:27,199
these people might be on the fence.

3233
02:03:27,199 --> 02:03:30,239
Well, um, yeah, I appreciate that this,

3234
02:03:30,239 --> 02:03:32,719
uh, Mr. Mayor, I mean, having talked

3235
02:03:32,719 --> 02:03:34,159
about it with you a few times now, I

3236
02:03:34,159 --> 02:03:35,840
think this is one of the

3237
02:03:35,840 --> 02:03:37,520
responsibilities that the mayor has that

3238
02:03:37,520 --> 02:03:39,280
you take pretty seriously, and I I

3239
02:03:39,280 --> 02:03:41,040
appreciate the thought that's gone into

3240
02:03:41,040 --> 02:03:44,320
recent planning commission appointees.

3241
02:03:44,320 --> 02:03:48,239
Um, and Megan Johnson

3242
02:03:48,239 --> 02:03:50,880
and Darren Miller being the two

3243
02:03:50,880 --> 02:03:53,679
candidates, uh, to replace Todd Mitchell

3244
02:03:53,679 --> 02:03:55,920
and Shauna Warick. I had an opportunity

3245
02:03:55,920 --> 02:03:57,280
yesterday to meet with Darren and to go

3246
02:03:57,280 --> 02:03:59,119
over some of the just fundamental duties

3247
02:03:59,119 --> 02:04:00,719
of planning commissioners and that sort

3248
02:04:00,719 --> 02:04:03,440
of a thing. Not to jump the gun, but

3249
02:04:03,440 --> 02:04:04,880
look forward to meeting with Megan next

3250
02:04:04,880 --> 02:04:07,599
week to do the same thing. And couldn't

3251
02:04:07,599 --> 02:04:09,360
be more excited. I meant what I said

3252
02:04:09,360 --> 02:04:11,920
about being sad about saying Shauna

3253
02:04:11,920 --> 02:04:14,480
stepped down. I really need to take a

3254
02:04:14,480 --> 02:04:17,679
minute to say the same thing about Todd.

3255
02:04:17,679 --> 02:04:20,000
He works off and out of town. That's the

3256
02:04:20,000 --> 02:04:22,960
case tonight. So, he couldn't be here.

3257
02:04:22,960 --> 02:04:25,360
Um, otherwise I think he would have been

3258
02:04:25,360 --> 02:04:27,119
and I can't say enough good things about

3259
02:04:27,119 --> 02:04:30,639
Todd. Um,

3260
02:04:30,639 --> 02:04:33,599
I'll go ahead and mention this. I I

3261
02:04:33,599 --> 02:04:35,840
wasn't sure after his first three-year

3262
02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:39,040
term that he wanted to serve another

3263
02:04:39,040 --> 02:04:41,520
three-year [snorts] term. Uh, was really

3264
02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:44,080
happy that he accepted, you know, that

3265
02:04:44,080 --> 02:04:48,719
uh that opportunity. and he has been the

3266
02:04:48,719 --> 02:04:50,159
chairman of the planning commission now

3267
02:04:50,159 --> 02:04:52,480
for three years which is a really really

3268
02:04:52,480 --> 02:04:55,679
long run actually has served for seven

3269
02:04:55,679 --> 02:04:59,280
um also a really long run and he's been

3270
02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:02,800
a rock uh with Todd I think you know

3271
02:05:02,800 --> 02:05:04,159
what he's thinking I think you know why

3272
02:05:04,159 --> 02:05:07,760
he's thinking it and um he's very

3273
02:05:07,760 --> 02:05:09,760
pragmatic and practical just wants

3274
02:05:09,760 --> 02:05:13,280
things this is my my view of Todd and

3275
02:05:13,280 --> 02:05:15,440
what he's brought to discussions and his

3276
02:05:15,440 --> 02:05:19,199
service for the city very pragmatic,

3277
02:05:19,199 --> 02:05:22,080
wants to make sure that things work,

3278
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:24,159
that details are covered and that sort

3279
02:05:24,159 --> 02:05:27,119
of a thing. And at the same time, I

3280
02:05:27,119 --> 02:05:29,280
think you know how far he's willing to

3281
02:05:29,280 --> 02:05:31,599
bend on something that he cares about

3282
02:05:31,599 --> 02:05:34,960
and he's stuck to his his ideals and

3283
02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:36,800
what he's felt has been best for the

3284
02:05:36,800 --> 02:05:40,560
city. Um and I think uh sometimes you

3285
02:05:40,560 --> 02:05:44,800
get a chance to see maybe how people um

3286
02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:47,360
uh develop new skill sets through

3287
02:05:47,360 --> 02:05:49,199
service on like a planning commission

3288
02:05:49,199 --> 02:05:53,520
and uh he became very very capable of

3289
02:05:53,520 --> 02:05:56,800
running discussions really really well

3290
02:05:56,800 --> 02:05:59,920
and of course that that's great on

3291
02:05:59,920 --> 02:06:02,080
nights when you have a full agenda and a

3292
02:06:02,080 --> 02:06:03,360
lot of different people to hear from and

3293
02:06:03,360 --> 02:06:05,679
that sort of thing. So, like Shauna,

3294
02:06:05,679 --> 02:06:09,679
he's certainly going to be missed. Um,

3295
02:06:09,679 --> 02:06:11,040
thanks for the liberty to to mention

3296
02:06:11,040 --> 02:06:13,920
that about Todd. Um, that's certainly

3297
02:06:13,920 --> 02:06:16,800
genuinely how I feel. And, uh, again,

3298
02:06:16,800 --> 02:06:20,719
Darren Miller, who we plan to have start

3299
02:06:20,719 --> 02:06:24,159
serving tomorrow night. Uh, and then

3300
02:06:24,159 --> 02:06:28,960
Megan Johnson, who's looking forward to starting to take Shauna's place then

3301
02:06:28,960 --> 02:06:30,560
in September. Couldn't be more excited

3302
02:06:30,560 --> 02:06:32,320
to have them on board.

3303
02:06:32,320 --> 02:06:35,840
>> Perfect. Any questions about those fine

3304
02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:37,599
folks that Dave's mentioned?

3305
02:06:37,599 --> 02:06:39,040
>> No, they'll be great.

3306
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:40,560
>> I think I just want to add like we

3307
02:06:40,560 --> 02:06:43,199
really listen to them and appreciate the

3308
02:06:43,199 --> 02:06:44,560
time [clears throat] and energy they all

3309
02:06:44,560 --> 02:06:46,960
put in. Like that's a lot that's a lot

3310
02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:49,119
of years. I mean, how many of you have

3311
02:06:49,119 --> 02:06:51,280
served as commissioners? Three.

3312
02:06:51,280 --> 02:06:53,440
>> Three of you. And it's it's a lot of

3313
02:06:53,440 --> 02:06:56,400
work. We listen and we trust and respect

3314
02:06:56,400 --> 02:06:58,159
what you guys have to say. We may not

3315
02:06:58,159 --> 02:06:59,199
always

3316
02:06:59,199 --> 02:07:01,119
>> agree at the end, but it doesn't mean we

3317
02:07:01,119 --> 02:07:03,040
didn't listen. we may have got more

3318
02:07:03,040 --> 02:07:06,719
information by the time we have it on

3319
02:07:06,719 --> 02:07:09,920
our agenda and and just make a different

3320
02:07:09,920 --> 02:07:11,280
decision, but I think that's just the

3321
02:07:11,280 --> 02:07:13,599
process of it. So, to all of our

3322
02:07:13,599 --> 02:07:16,239
commissioners, thank you.

3323
02:07:16,239 --> 02:07:18,719
>> Very well said. I hope Todd can make it

3324
02:07:18,719 --> 02:07:20,719
to a future council meeting so we can

3325
02:07:20,719 --> 02:07:22,320
have him stand up here and talk like we

3326
02:07:22,320 --> 02:07:24,719
did Shauna. He's been a great asset to

3327
02:07:24,719 --> 02:07:29,440
it to the city. Um, and uh, and yeah, I

3328
02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:31,679
hope Megan and Darren weren't listening

3329
02:07:31,679 --> 02:07:33,840
to the parts where we where we told

3330
02:07:33,840 --> 02:07:35,440
Shauna she got thick skin and she

3331
02:07:35,440 --> 02:07:37,040
admitted it, but that's what they're

3332
02:07:37,040 --> 02:07:40,968
about to step into. Uh, but both uh,

3333
02:07:40,968 --> 02:07:42,159
[clears throat]

3334
02:07:42,159 --> 02:07:46,560
shameless plug for Jack's um,

3335
02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:49,119
Spanish University 101 coming up and

3336
02:07:49,119 --> 02:07:52,000
those uh, are open now or coming up.

3337
02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:53,040
Open, Jack.

3338
02:07:53,040 --> 02:07:55,199
>> Yeah, application closes on Friday at

3339
02:07:55,199 --> 02:07:57,360
noon. So this week

3340
02:07:57,360 --> 02:08:00,800
>> uh you can apply I know who were asking

3341
02:08:00,800 --> 02:08:03,119
here to serve on the planning commission

3342
02:08:03,119 --> 02:08:05,920
have been Spanishfor university students

3343
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:07,760
and um learned that much more about

3344
02:08:07,760 --> 02:08:11,679
their city. So there's your plug. Um one

3345
02:08:11,679 --> 02:08:14,239
way or the other join Spanish university

3346
02:08:14,239 --> 02:08:16,079
you might get asked to serve on other

3347
02:08:16,079 --> 02:08:18,480
stuff. Uh but you will you will learn

3348
02:08:18,480 --> 02:08:20,880
about your city too. So, uh, those are

3349
02:08:20,880 --> 02:08:23,360
my appointments that I'd like to present

3350
02:08:23,360 --> 02:08:24,960
in front of the council to serve those

3351
02:08:24,960 --> 02:08:26,079
vacancies.

3352
02:08:26,079 --> 02:08:27,840
>> There's a reappoint on there for airport

3353
02:08:27,840 --> 02:08:29,599
board member as well,

3354
02:08:29,599 --> 02:08:31,840
>> which you and Stacy are currently on the

3355
02:08:31,840 --> 02:08:32,800
airport board.

3356
02:08:32,800 --> 02:08:34,880
>> The airport board commissioner, too. He

3357
02:08:34,880 --> 02:08:37,520
does a great job.

3358
02:08:37,520 --> 02:08:38,560
>> Yeah, it's great.

3359
02:08:38,560 --> 02:08:40,639
>> Yeah. Yeah. Matt Taylor, right?

3360
02:08:40,639 --> 02:08:40,960
>> Yep.

3361
02:08:40,960 --> 02:08:44,159
>> Um, Matt Taylor has uh agreed to serve

3362
02:08:44,159 --> 02:08:47,280
on our on our airport board again and uh

3363
02:08:47,280 --> 02:08:48,960
we're grateful for him. He's a good good

3364
02:08:48,960 --> 02:08:52,480
pilot and uh and a good good asset on

3365
02:08:52,480 --> 02:08:52,960
that board.

3366
02:08:52,960 --> 02:08:53,679
>> Great.

3367
02:08:53,679 --> 02:08:55,520
>> So, uh there you go. Megan Johnson,

3368
02:08:55,520 --> 02:08:57,119
Darren Miller to the planning commission

3369
02:08:57,119 --> 02:08:59,040
and reappoint Matt Taylor to the airport

3370
02:08:59,040 --> 02:09:01,520
board. Uh if somebody would like to make

3371
02:09:01,520 --> 02:09:03,840
that motion and vote on it, we can do

3372
02:09:03,840 --> 02:09:08,149
that.

3373
02:09:08,159 --> 02:09:10,719
» I move to appoint Megan Johnson and uh

3374
02:09:10,719 --> 02:09:12,960
Darren Miller to the planning commission

3375
02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:15,679
and reappoint of Matt Taylor to the

3376
02:09:15,679 --> 02:09:18,000
airport board. Second.

3377
02:09:18,000 --> 02:09:20,000
>> Motion made by Councilman Tuk, second by

3378
02:09:20,000 --> 02:09:21,920
Councilman Marshall. Says we can do this

3379
02:09:21,920 --> 02:09:24,480
in all in favor. All in favor say yes.

3380
02:09:24,480 --> 02:09:26,000
>> Yes.

3381
02:09:26,000 --> 02:09:30,000
>> Those are approved. Okay.

3382
02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:32,639
Now, we're at our discussion uh on the

3383
02:09:32,639 --> 02:09:35,199
agenda before we go into close session.

3384
02:09:35,199 --> 02:09:36,800
Uh

3385
02:09:36,800 --> 02:09:38,560
David, would are you taking this one,

3386
02:09:38,560 --> 02:09:41,280
too?

3387
02:09:41,280 --> 02:09:42,560
>> Again. Thank you, Mayor. Yes. I'm going

3388
02:09:42,560 --> 02:09:44,560
to start and pretty quickly turn things

3389
02:09:44,560 --> 02:09:47,520
off to Mr. Pierce before then we turn

3390
02:09:47,520 --> 02:09:51,040
things off to Jeff Chavez and maybe his

3391
02:09:51,040 --> 02:09:53,440
team at Valition. Um we appreciate them

3392
02:09:53,440 --> 02:09:57,280
being here tonight. Um just to to maybe

3393
02:09:57,280 --> 02:09:59,280
broadly set the stage for what we're

3394
02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:01,440
discussing here. for the past couple of

3395
02:10:01,440 --> 02:10:03,520
years, I feel like particularly for the

3396
02:10:03,520 --> 02:10:07,440
past couple of years, um, as city staff,

3397
02:10:07,440 --> 02:10:09,119
kind of being sometimes the first people

3398
02:10:09,119 --> 02:10:11,520
that are contacted with the city about

3399
02:10:11,520 --> 02:10:13,840
different development opportunities and

3400
02:10:13,840 --> 02:10:16,079
that sort of a thing.

3401
02:10:16,079 --> 02:10:17,760
More and more frequently, we've been

3402
02:10:17,760 --> 02:10:20,719
approached by companies that are looking

3403
02:10:20,719 --> 02:10:24,560
to use a lot of power, um, lots of

3404
02:10:24,560 --> 02:10:26,400
different types of companies. There's a

3405
02:10:26,400 --> 02:10:28,719
food food manufacturer three or four

3406
02:10:28,719 --> 02:10:32,560
years ago that would have been the

3407
02:10:32,560 --> 02:10:34,639
city's largest power user if they had

3408
02:10:34,639 --> 02:10:37,199
landed in the community. Um, more

3409
02:10:37,199 --> 02:10:39,280
recently, there's a company that

3410
02:10:39,280 --> 02:10:41,679
manufactures synthetic graphite that

3411
02:10:41,679 --> 02:10:44,560
would have really set the bar in terms

3412
02:10:44,560 --> 02:10:47,840
of using a lot of power. maybe set the

3413
02:10:47,840 --> 02:10:52,159
bar differently, but um it worked with

3414
02:10:52,159 --> 02:10:55,280
very well-known company here a few years

3415
02:10:55,280 --> 02:10:57,520
ago. I realize now as I describe this,

3416
02:10:57,520 --> 02:10:58,800
these are all companies that ultimately

3417
02:10:58,800 --> 02:11:03,119
didn't land in Spanish Fort, but they forced us to think about how we'd

3418
02:11:03,119 --> 02:11:05,280
provide power to them. There's a company

3419
02:11:05,280 --> 02:11:07,679
that's going to build uh a multi-million

3420
02:11:07,679 --> 02:11:10,000
square foot uh warehouse and

3421
02:11:10,000 --> 02:11:11,360
distribution facility that would have

3422
02:11:11,360 --> 02:11:14,000
been almost 100% automated and again

3423
02:11:14,000 --> 02:11:15,920
really really big power user. Tonight

3424
02:11:15,920 --> 02:11:17,520
we'll talk about data centers as just

3425
02:11:17,520 --> 02:11:20,880
another um particular type of of land

3426
02:11:20,880 --> 02:11:24,480
use that uses a lot of power. Um but

3427
02:11:24,480 --> 02:11:26,639
we've started to look at uh issues

3428
02:11:26,639 --> 02:11:30,000
related to how uh Spanish Fork City and

3429
02:11:30,000 --> 02:11:32,960
maybe even UMPA would serve uh certain

3430
02:11:32,960 --> 02:11:35,599
types of customers. uh with that here

3431
02:11:35,599 --> 02:11:37,199
earlier this year we started to have

3432
02:11:37,199 --> 02:11:39,199
some of us and council member Tuk has

3433
02:11:39,199 --> 02:11:41,599
been a great member of kind of an ad hoc

3434
02:11:41,599 --> 02:11:43,280
committee that we formed with staff and

3435
02:11:43,280 --> 02:11:46,159
people from PA to investigate different

3436
02:11:46,159 --> 02:11:48,800
options um opportunities hurdles

3437
02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:52,000
challenges things related to serving

3438
02:11:52,000 --> 02:11:54,320
customers that would need more power

3439
02:11:54,320 --> 02:11:56,719
than uh what we've dealt with in the

3440
02:11:56,719 --> 02:12:00,000
past in Spanish Fork today hedro is the

3441
02:12:00,000 --> 02:12:04,000
city's largest power user um I think Um

3442
02:12:04,000 --> 02:12:06,400
to provide a little bit of context, when

3443
02:12:06,400 --> 02:12:09,520
we're maxed out with our power use as a

3444
02:12:09,520 --> 02:12:11,679
whole city, I think we're at about 90

3445
02:12:11,679 --> 02:12:14,800
megawws now.

3446
02:12:14,800 --> 02:12:18,560
>> Wow. Okay. So, yeah, this right now is

3447
02:12:18,560 --> 02:12:22,000
the time of year when collectively the

3448
02:12:22,000 --> 02:12:24,320
most power is being used. Hedro uses, I

3449
02:12:24,320 --> 02:12:26,560
want to say maybe four megawws. And

3450
02:12:26,560 --> 02:12:29,199
we've talked with some companies, for

3451
02:12:29,199 --> 02:12:31,280
example, the graphite manufacturer, they

3452
02:12:31,280 --> 02:12:34,239
wanted to use 20. So we go from having

3453
02:12:34,239 --> 02:12:36,320
our largest power user potentially being

3454
02:12:36,320 --> 02:12:39,679
four up to five times that. And those

3455
02:12:39,679 --> 02:12:42,159
things, they they can impact our system

3456
02:12:42,159 --> 02:12:44,880
in various ways. um uh for companies

3457
02:12:44,880 --> 02:12:47,119
that are connected to Spanish Fork City

3458
02:12:47,119 --> 02:12:49,440
Power, we've been looking at again how

3459
02:12:49,440 --> 02:12:53,360
to how to appropriately plan for and to

3460
02:12:53,360 --> 02:12:58,560
serve pot companies like that. Um and uh

3461
02:12:58,560 --> 02:12:59,840
through kind of the same period of time,

3462
02:12:59,840 --> 02:13:00,880
we've started to look at some other

3463
02:13:00,880 --> 02:13:05,760
options. Um, we've visited a company in

3464
02:13:05,760 --> 02:13:08,320
California that manufactures equipment

3465
02:13:08,320 --> 02:13:11,040
that allows for power to be generated on

3466
02:13:11,040 --> 02:13:13,040
site and potentially [snorts] even for

3467
02:13:13,040 --> 02:13:15,360
customers not to tie into or companies

3468
02:13:15,360 --> 02:13:17,679
not to tie into the grid. We'll talk

3469
02:13:17,679 --> 02:13:20,639
more about that later tonight. Um, uh,

3470
02:13:20,639 --> 02:13:22,719
that happened

3471
02:13:22,719 --> 02:13:24,480
just a few months ago. We've had some

3472
02:13:24,480 --> 02:13:25,760
conversations with the city council

3473
02:13:25,760 --> 02:13:29,440
after that. And um I think this

3474
02:13:29,440 --> 02:13:31,199
discussion right now is particularly

3475
02:13:31,199 --> 02:13:33,440
timely because after having again

3476
02:13:33,440 --> 02:13:35,119
discussed this for quite some time,

3477
02:13:35,119 --> 02:13:36,639
looked at a lot of different scenarios

3478
02:13:36,639 --> 02:13:38,960
and options, uh there is a text

3479
02:13:38,960 --> 02:13:40,560
amendment that's will be considered

3480
02:13:40,560 --> 02:13:42,320
tomorrow night by the planning

3481
02:13:42,320 --> 02:13:43,360
commission where they'll have the

3482
02:13:43,360 --> 02:13:44,400
opportunity at least to make a

3483
02:13:44,400 --> 02:13:46,800
recommendation on some changes to our

3484
02:13:46,800 --> 02:13:49,840
zoning code to allow for some land uses

3485
02:13:49,840 --> 02:13:51,520
that had never before really been

3486
02:13:51,520 --> 02:13:54,400
contemplated in Spanish Fork. Um again,

3487
02:13:54,400 --> 02:13:56,320
we'll talk at least briefly about that

3488
02:13:56,320 --> 02:13:59,280
tonight. and you likely will see that on

3489
02:13:59,280 --> 02:14:01,520
a future agenda. So again, just kind of

3490
02:14:01,520 --> 02:14:04,000
high level. That's my longer than I

3491
02:14:04,000 --> 02:14:06,000
thought it'd be introduction, but I'll

3492
02:14:06,000 --> 02:14:07,520
let you take it from there, Corey,

3493
02:14:07,520 --> 02:14:09,199
unless you have any questions for me.

3494
02:14:09,199 --> 02:14:12,639
>> Questions for Dave before Corey?

3495
02:14:12,639 --> 02:14:15,679
>> Thanks, Dave.

3496
02:14:15,679 --> 02:14:17,199
>> Um, I'll just take a minute and talk

3497
02:14:17,199 --> 02:14:19,360
about a few of the things we've been

3498
02:14:19,360 --> 02:14:22,239
trying to research, address, um, as

3499
02:14:22,239 --> 02:14:26,800
we've met as a large load committee. Um,

3500
02:14:26,800 --> 02:14:28,320
one of the things we're working towards

3501
02:14:28,320 --> 02:14:30,400
is a policy to address a lot of the

3502
02:14:30,400 --> 02:14:32,719
questions. I think we heard in the the

3503
02:14:32,719 --> 02:14:34,960
public comments concerns that are

3504
02:14:34,960 --> 02:14:36,960
environmental, and I appreciate those.

3505
02:14:36,960 --> 02:14:39,679
Um, we've been looking at that um, in a

3506
02:14:39,679 --> 02:14:41,280
lot of different ways. But here's some

3507
02:14:41,280 --> 02:14:43,520
of the goals of a policy we're putting

3508
02:14:43,520 --> 02:14:46,400
together. This is kind of to give the

3509
02:14:46,400 --> 02:14:49,040
direction we're thinking and also are we

3510
02:14:49,040 --> 02:14:50,800
missing things that the council would

3511
02:14:50,800 --> 02:14:53,840
like us to talk about research

3512
02:14:53,840 --> 02:14:56,000
um and dig deeper on to to work into

3513
02:14:56,000 --> 02:14:58,400
this policy. So on a on a broad high

3514
02:14:58,400 --> 02:15:01,920
level we're looking at uh protecting the

3515
02:15:01,920 --> 02:15:03,520
existing customers and the city

3516
02:15:03,520 --> 02:15:05,840
infrastructure. Um, as these large loads

3517
02:15:05,840 --> 02:15:07,920
come in, there's often a lot of in

3518
02:15:07,920 --> 02:15:09,679
infrastructure costs and other things

3519
02:15:09,679 --> 02:15:11,280
that get put there. And we want to make

3520
02:15:11,280 --> 02:15:14,800
sure um that our system is taken care of

3521
02:15:14,800 --> 02:15:17,760
and that those users are paying their

3522
02:15:17,760 --> 02:15:19,599
way and it's not supplemented by other

3523
02:15:19,599 --> 02:15:23,520
users. Um, UNMPA is the organization

3524
02:15:23,520 --> 02:15:26,079
that uh provides our power generation.

3525
02:15:26,079 --> 02:15:28,400
They have some requirements and bond

3526
02:15:28,400 --> 02:15:30,400
covenants and other agreements in place

3527
02:15:30,400 --> 02:15:36,000
that we need to research as as large companies or large power users

3528
02:15:36,000 --> 02:15:38,239
come in to make sure that we're meeting

3529
02:15:38,239 --> 02:15:40,320
all those requirements as well as some

3530
02:15:40,320 --> 02:15:43,199
of the regional regulations.

3531
02:15:43,199 --> 02:15:47,119
Um cost recovery. We want to ensure uh

3532
02:15:47,119 --> 02:15:49,679
again that growth pays for growth, that

3533
02:15:49,679 --> 02:15:51,599
that's not a burden that existing

3534
02:15:51,599 --> 02:15:55,119
residents or you

3535
02:15:55,119 --> 02:15:58,239
need to supplement. Um environmental

3536
02:15:58,239 --> 02:16:00,880
sustainability um as we look at the

3537
02:16:00,880 --> 02:16:03,440
general plan, air quality, water

3538
02:16:03,440 --> 02:16:06,400
quality, all the things that we hear, uh

3539
02:16:06,400 --> 02:16:08,480
noise mitigation, emission controls,

3540
02:16:08,480 --> 02:16:11,040
heat as was mentioned tonight, and many

3541
02:16:11,040 --> 02:16:13,199
other things. We want to make sure we

3542
02:16:13,199 --> 02:16:16,800
understand uh the impacts there. Um as

3543
02:16:16,800 --> 02:16:23,440
well as what's the economic benefit to the city. Is there you know great job

3544
02:16:23,440 --> 02:16:25,840
growth uh high value jobs, capital

3545
02:16:25,840 --> 02:16:27,840
investment? What are the ways that the

3546
02:16:27,840 --> 02:16:29,840
city benefits as these large users come

3547
02:16:29,840 --> 02:16:31,440
in?

3548
02:16:31,440 --> 02:16:33,439
This maybe gives a preview or a little

3549
02:16:33,439 --> 02:16:36,800
thought of how we would break down

3550
02:16:36,800 --> 02:16:41,120
uh users that come in. Um users that are

3551
02:16:41,120 --> 02:16:44,800
under 1.5 megawws would just kind of go

3552
02:16:44,800 --> 02:16:46,719
through the normal process, our our

3553
02:16:46,719 --> 02:16:50,399
zoning regulations and ordinances. Um

3554
02:16:50,399 --> 02:16:53,040
we've kind of divi defined large users

3555
02:16:53,040 --> 02:16:57,760
as those above 1.5 megawws. Um and if

3556
02:16:57,760 --> 02:17:00,960
they're above 1.5, uh there would be

3557
02:17:00,960 --> 02:17:02,960
some things written into the policy

3558
02:17:02,960 --> 02:17:06,639
we're preparing as well as oversight to

3559
02:17:06,639 --> 02:17:08,880
make sure we're doing things right. And

3560
02:17:08,880 --> 02:17:11,200
as it that gets larger, often we have to

3561
02:17:11,200 --> 02:17:14,479
get Pacific Corp involved in doing a

3562
02:17:14,479 --> 02:17:17,519
system impact analysis.

3563
02:17:17,519 --> 02:17:19,200
And then as we get larger, you'll see

3564
02:17:19,200 --> 02:17:21,760
there as we get into data center talk

3565
02:17:21,760 --> 02:17:24,240
and other large users, we're talking 50

3566
02:17:24,240 --> 02:17:27,760
megawws and sometimes well beyond that.

3567
02:17:27,760 --> 02:17:31,280
That's again that Dave mentioned, we're

3568
02:17:31,280 --> 02:17:34,399
90 95 megawws as a city. It's it's hard

3569
02:17:34,399 --> 02:17:36,880
to contemplate um the amount of energy

3570
02:17:36,880 --> 02:17:39,599
that it takes to do this. Um so there's

3571
02:17:39,599 --> 02:17:41,840
a there's a lot more regulation and

3572
02:17:41,840 --> 02:17:44,559
studies that need to go in loads that

3573
02:17:44,559 --> 02:17:48,240
large. How can uh Pacific Corp or Rocky

3574
02:17:48,240 --> 02:17:50,960
Mountain Power bring that power in? And

3575
02:17:50,960 --> 02:17:56,000
then uh it run through UNMPA to us. Uh

3576
02:17:56,000 --> 02:17:58,319
and then also how do we work with

3577
02:17:58,319 --> 02:18:00,880
islanded data centers? Dave mentioned

3578
02:18:00,880 --> 02:18:02,160
we've looked at some different

3579
02:18:02,160 --> 02:18:05,280
generation and and as Seth said he we

3580
02:18:05,280 --> 02:18:08,639
wanted to see, touch, feel, smell,

3581
02:18:08,639 --> 02:18:12,479
listen to um these technologies and what

3582
02:18:12,479 --> 02:18:15,760
might that impact. So that's that's a

3583
02:18:15,760 --> 02:18:17,519
lot of the things we've been working

3584
02:18:17,519 --> 02:18:20,160
through. One of the tools we're thinking

3585
02:18:20,160 --> 02:18:22,399
um that would be for large power users

3586
02:18:22,399 --> 02:18:24,479
is a a master electrical service

3587
02:18:24,479 --> 02:18:27,040
agreement. Entities like Rocky Mountain

3588
02:18:27,040 --> 02:18:30,160
Power use these quite a bit. um to just

3589
02:18:30,160 --> 02:18:32,880
outline the large investment and make

3590
02:18:32,880 --> 02:18:36,399
sure it's understood. Um so we would

3591
02:18:36,399 --> 02:18:40,319
contemplate two agreements. One's uh for

3592
02:18:40,319 --> 02:18:42,559
construction, who's funding what

3593
02:18:42,559 --> 02:18:44,319
improvements to to get the

3594
02:18:44,319 --> 02:18:47,040
infrastructure to the site? Um and what

3595
02:18:47,040 --> 02:18:49,359
assurances are there that that would get

3596
02:18:49,359 --> 02:18:51,840
built and what are the timelines for

3597
02:18:51,840 --> 02:18:55,280
those? And then as that uh turns over to

3598
02:18:55,280 --> 02:18:58,479
a user actually using power, how is it

3599
02:18:58,479 --> 02:19:00,479
operating and are we capturing the

3600
02:19:00,479 --> 02:19:02,319
costs? Are we protecting the city in the

3601
02:19:02,319 --> 02:19:06,319
way we want? So just a few of the goals

3602
02:19:06,319 --> 02:19:09,040
of of a master electrical service

3603
02:19:09,040 --> 02:19:12,559
agreement. Um what upfront guarantees

3604
02:19:12,559 --> 02:19:14,160
are are there going to be that the

3605
02:19:14,160 --> 02:19:16,479
infrastructure gets built and used?

3606
02:19:16,479 --> 02:19:18,399
Often you see as we build shell

3607
02:19:18,399 --> 02:19:20,719
buildings in our industrial areas and

3608
02:19:20,719 --> 02:19:23,120
we're seeing more of those often those

3609
02:19:23,120 --> 02:19:24,800
are built not knowing what's going to go

3610
02:19:24,800 --> 02:19:27,200
in them and those that are developing

3611
02:19:27,200 --> 02:19:30,479
and want to be able to advertise

3612
02:19:30,479 --> 02:19:32,880
about anything. So often they're saying

3613
02:19:32,880 --> 02:19:35,120
we need a large transformer because we

3614
02:19:35,120 --> 02:19:39,280
could have a large user in and then when

3615
02:19:39,280 --> 02:19:41,439
a typical warehouse comes in and it just

3616
02:19:41,439 --> 02:19:44,160
keeps the lights on. That transformer is

3617
02:19:44,160 --> 02:19:47,840
oversized. Um, and we have an asset

3618
02:19:47,840 --> 02:19:49,680
that's out there that we have to

3619
02:19:49,680 --> 02:19:51,600
maintain that's very expensive and we're

3620
02:19:51,600 --> 02:19:53,760
not running enough power for it through

3621
02:19:53,760 --> 02:19:59,600
it to cover the cost of it. Um, so that would be some of the things that we

3622
02:19:59,600 --> 02:20:02,640
look at. We've we've talked about do we

3623
02:20:02,640 --> 02:20:05,439
on a shell building limit upfront

3624
02:20:05,439 --> 02:20:08,479
capacity? In other words, we stall we

3625
02:20:08,479 --> 02:20:10,800
install a smaller transformer that can

3626
02:20:10,800 --> 02:20:12,560
get them through the tenant

3627
02:20:12,560 --> 02:20:14,479
improvements, but as they find a user

3628
02:20:14,479 --> 02:20:17,600
and we understand what goes in there and

3629
02:20:17,600 --> 02:20:19,439
we have a load sheet, then we can upsize

3630
02:20:19,439 --> 02:20:23,760
a transformer and rightsize that uh for

3631
02:20:23,760 --> 02:20:28,000
what's going in. Um,

3632
02:20:28,000 --> 02:20:29,840
one of the things along that same line

3633
02:20:29,840 --> 02:20:32,479
as properties uh go forward in time and

3634
02:20:32,479 --> 02:20:35,680
maybe that large load goes away and

3635
02:20:35,680 --> 02:20:37,280
another

3636
02:20:37,280 --> 02:20:39,040
uh user gets into the building that

3637
02:20:39,040 --> 02:20:41,439
doesn't need that much power. We'd like

3638
02:20:41,439 --> 02:20:43,600
the provision to be able to the term

3639
02:20:43,600 --> 02:20:45,680
claw back or get back some of that

3640
02:20:45,680 --> 02:20:49,280
capacity. In other words, uh downsize

3641
02:20:49,280 --> 02:20:51,439
this transformer to what's needed today

3642
02:20:51,439 --> 02:20:53,359
so that we can then use that capacity

3643
02:20:53,359 --> 02:20:56,080
elsewhere in the city and not have to

3644
02:20:56,080 --> 02:20:58,000
reserve capacity for something that's

3645
02:20:58,000 --> 02:21:01,840
not being used. Um and then if they

3646
02:21:01,840 --> 02:21:03,439
exceed that, are there penalties or how

3647
02:21:03,439 --> 02:21:05,280
do we deal with that? So there's a lot

3648
02:21:05,280 --> 02:21:06,640
of terms that would work into the

3649
02:21:06,640 --> 02:21:08,240
details.

3650
02:21:08,240 --> 02:21:11,600
Operational type items are

3651
02:21:11,600 --> 02:21:13,359
often just because we build the

3652
02:21:13,359 --> 02:21:14,800
infrastructure to get it there. it

3653
02:21:14,800 --> 02:21:16,560
doesn't necessarily guarantee the power

3654
02:21:16,560 --> 02:21:18,399
can get there. And so there would be

3655
02:21:18,399 --> 02:21:20,800
provisions in the agreement to to make

3656
02:21:20,800 --> 02:21:23,120
sure we all understand that um that

3657
02:21:23,120 --> 02:21:25,760
there's not this feeling of I own

3658
02:21:25,760 --> 02:21:29,120
something that can't be delivered today.

3659
02:21:29,120 --> 02:21:31,280
Um

3660
02:21:31,280 --> 02:21:35,520
and then operational constraints um

3661
02:21:35,520 --> 02:21:38,319
specific power quality um they would

3662
02:21:38,319 --> 02:21:41,040
have to meet to ensure that it's not

3663
02:21:41,040 --> 02:21:44,640
causing problems with our system.

3664
02:21:44,640 --> 02:21:47,600
Um and then how do we terminate you know

3665
02:21:47,600 --> 02:21:51,520
if if if a company decides to leave how

3666
02:21:51,520 --> 02:21:53,133
does this agreement

3667
02:21:53,133 --> 02:21:53,359
>> [snorts]

3668
02:21:53,359 --> 02:21:56,319
>> uh terminate to move on then then to a

3669
02:21:56,319 --> 02:21:58,240
new user. So those are some of the

3670
02:21:58,240 --> 02:22:00,000
things we've been discussing looking at

3671
02:22:00,000 --> 02:22:02,160
the tools we look to use for for these

3672
02:22:02,160 --> 02:22:05,520
large power loads. So, um, any

3673
02:22:05,520 --> 02:22:09,439
suggestions, any any questions that that

3674
02:22:09,439 --> 02:22:11,680
we as a committee could look at or

3675
02:22:11,680 --> 02:22:15,359
research to help answer some of these

3676
02:22:15,359 --> 02:22:17,840
really difficult

3677
02:22:17,840 --> 02:22:21,040
problems as as things come in.

3678
02:22:21,040 --> 02:22:23,359
>> Corey, there I think the way you've laid

3679
02:22:23,359 --> 02:22:24,800
this out makes a ton of sense. I'm

3680
02:22:24,800 --> 02:22:28,160
curious. [snorts] Um, an applicant comes

3681
02:22:28,160 --> 02:22:32,000
to the city, they're over one and a half

3682
02:22:32,000 --> 02:22:34,080
megawatts puts them in this other

3683
02:22:34,080 --> 02:22:36,000
category. What's the decision-making

3684
02:22:36,000 --> 02:22:40,000
process? Is it strictly staff

3685
02:22:40,000 --> 02:22:41,760
facilitating in this conversation?

3686
02:22:41,760 --> 02:22:44,160
There's no legislative action by the

3687
02:22:44,160 --> 02:22:46,319
city council at any point in this

3688
02:22:46,319 --> 02:22:48,880
process. It doesn't look like it to me.

3689
02:22:48,880 --> 02:22:51,520
>> I I think and and I maybe would look

3690
02:22:51,520 --> 02:22:54,399
Devon a little bit or others. If we have

3691
02:22:54,399 --> 02:22:57,520
a master electrical services agreement,

3692
02:22:57,520 --> 02:23:01,439
>> who Okay. Is it a council approval that

3693
02:23:01,439 --> 02:23:03,439
um typically that's where those types of

3694
02:23:03,439 --> 02:23:05,920
agreements would [clears throat] go? It

3695
02:23:05,920 --> 02:23:08,319
could be if there was a template that

3696
02:23:08,319 --> 02:23:10,240
city council liked that they would off

3697
02:23:10,240 --> 02:23:12,880
authorize perhaps city managers or

3698
02:23:12,880 --> 02:23:15,840
others to sign that could work. I think

3699
02:23:15,840 --> 02:23:19,359
that would be the the place to capture

3700
02:23:19,359 --> 02:23:22,560
that legislative oversight to say yes,

3701
02:23:22,560 --> 02:23:24,960
this is important to our town and and we

3702
02:23:24,960 --> 02:23:27,280
want to do that as well as the other

3703
02:23:27,280 --> 02:23:33,600
processes through um subdivisions and things that would cross your path.

3704
02:23:33,600 --> 02:23:36,800
>> Sure. But some point these these things

3705
02:23:36,800 --> 02:23:38,960
are coming into whatever zone they are

3706
02:23:38,960 --> 02:23:40,399
in and they're permitted use or not

3707
02:23:40,399 --> 02:23:43,174
permitted use. They're permitted use,

3708
02:23:43,174 --> 02:23:45,200
[snorts] but yet they still need over a

3709
02:23:45,200 --> 02:23:48,319
mega 1.5 megawatts. If there was no

3710
02:23:48,319 --> 02:23:49,760
legislative touch point on that, we're

3711
02:23:49,760 --> 02:23:51,920
out. Yeah.

3712
02:23:51,920 --> 02:23:54,960
>> Could be a data center. It could be zoo.

3713
02:23:54,960 --> 02:23:57,680
I don't whatever it is. Yeah. But we're

3714
02:23:57,680 --> 02:23:59,200
out. There's not a decision for us to

3715
02:23:59,200 --> 02:24:01,920
make with this process. So that's why

3716
02:24:01,920 --> 02:24:05,120
I'm I mean we're the next topic is data

3717
02:24:05,120 --> 02:24:08,880
center conversation. Um, and I'm sure

3718
02:24:08,880 --> 02:24:10,560
the internet usage is going to go up as

3719
02:24:10,560 --> 02:24:12,240
we start talking about data centers and

3720
02:24:12,240 --> 02:24:15,280
it feels like this is sort of the

3721
02:24:15,280 --> 02:24:17,840
not back door to facil to start the

3722
02:24:17,840 --> 02:24:19,439
conversation, but it's it's it's

3723
02:24:19,439 --> 02:24:22,000
something that's part of it. Absolutely

3724
02:24:22,000 --> 02:24:26,640
100%. Um [snorts] but I think I am

3725
02:24:26,640 --> 02:24:29,520
concerned that whatever user generates

3726
02:24:29,520 --> 02:24:32,240
or needs as much power um we look at it

3727
02:24:32,240 --> 02:24:35,680
from a land use and zoning

3728
02:24:35,680 --> 02:24:38,960
perspective as well on top of the power

3729
02:24:38,960 --> 02:24:40,319
requirement

3730
02:24:40,319 --> 02:24:40,640
>> absolutely

3731
02:24:40,640 --> 02:24:42,160
>> and maybe we'll get there as part of the

3732
02:24:42,160 --> 02:24:44,800
conversation but um I don't think it's a

3733
02:24:44,800 --> 02:24:46,560
you check the energy box the power

3734
02:24:46,560 --> 02:24:48,479
consumption box and you're permitted go

3735
02:24:48,479 --> 02:24:51,520
forward I mean at one point a mega a one

3736
02:24:51,520 --> 02:24:53,200
and a half megawatt user

3737
02:24:53,200 --> 02:24:54,560
is a big [clears throat]

3738
02:24:54,560 --> 02:24:56,560
a big user and Dave you rattled off some

3739
02:24:56,560 --> 02:24:58,240
of the folks that aren't here but could

3740
02:24:58,240 --> 02:25:00,399
have come here um and I think without a

3741
02:25:00,399 --> 02:25:02,399
discussion from us I would be concerned

3742
02:25:02,399 --> 02:25:05,280
that someone using that much power

3743
02:25:05,280 --> 02:25:07,600
has no legislative action whatsoever

3744
02:25:07,600 --> 02:25:09,280
>> that would require a title 15 change

3745
02:25:09,280 --> 02:25:11,280
right because if you what you're saying

3746
02:25:11,280 --> 02:25:13,040
is we you would want anything that's

3747
02:25:13,040 --> 02:25:15,040
that high of a power user to come before

3748
02:25:15,040 --> 02:25:15,760
the city council

3749
02:25:15,760 --> 02:25:17,120
>> it' be almost with special use

3750
02:25:17,120 --> 02:25:18,800
>> so then we would we would need to change

3751
02:25:18,800 --> 02:25:20,000
the way that our code is currently

3752
02:25:20,000 --> 02:25:22,880
writen because right now they don't

3753
02:25:22,880 --> 02:25:23,280
how

3754
02:25:23,280 --> 02:25:25,600
>> it's it's I'm putting it on the table as

3755
02:25:25,600 --> 02:25:27,040
something should we talk about.

3756
02:25:27,040 --> 02:25:29,840
>> That was my exact question except I no

3757
02:25:29,840 --> 02:25:32,240
way would have articulated it as well as

3758
02:25:32,240 --> 02:25:34,160
you did.

3759
02:25:34,160 --> 02:25:35,439
>> I think that's important.

3760
02:25:35,439 --> 02:25:37,120
>> I don't know. I I considered one of the

3761
02:25:37,120 --> 02:25:38,800
examples that was coming. How do you do

3762
02:25:38,800 --> 02:25:40,640
that? How do you have that conversation

3763
02:25:40,640 --> 02:25:43,680
in a public meeting when that business

3764
02:25:43,680 --> 02:25:45,840
or the property owners are still

3765
02:25:45,840 --> 02:25:48,160
negotiating, trying to work things out

3766
02:25:48,160 --> 02:25:50,319
and now we're trying to throw it out

3767
02:25:50,319 --> 02:25:52,640
there publicly where they're still

3768
02:25:52,640 --> 02:25:54,640
trying to do things behind the scenes?

3769
02:25:54,640 --> 02:25:56,720
>> Absolutely. We I mean, you pull up Title

3770
02:25:56,720 --> 02:25:58,399
15 and you look at all the permitted

3771
02:25:58,399 --> 02:26:02,399
uses within a zone. Um, some of them are

3772
02:26:02,399 --> 02:26:04,479
special use, special what are they

3773
02:26:04,479 --> 02:26:06,240
called?

3774
02:26:06,240 --> 02:26:07,439
>> Potentially conditional uses.

3775
02:26:07,439 --> 02:26:10,080
>> Conditional uses. um it's it would

3776
02:26:10,080 --> 02:26:14,640
follow some more similar policy. You put those uses that we're concerned

3777
02:26:14,640 --> 02:26:16,160
about in there and then we have the

3778
02:26:16,160 --> 02:26:18,240
conversation,

3779
02:26:18,240 --> 02:26:20,000
but it's it's it's not something I'm

3780
02:26:20,000 --> 02:26:23,040
like, uh we need this for sure. Just as

3781
02:26:23,040 --> 02:26:24,800
this all plays out and as we have a

3782
02:26:24,800 --> 02:26:26,800
conversation around data centers,

3783
02:26:26,800 --> 02:26:27,120
>> right?

3784
02:26:27,120 --> 02:26:30,950
>> What is our touch point?

3785
02:26:30,960 --> 02:26:34,399
» I Yeah, historically, I think

3786
02:26:34,399 --> 02:26:36,160
it's the land use, right? And then it's

3787
02:26:36,160 --> 02:26:38,720
the capacity of the system. I think

3788
02:26:38,720 --> 02:26:41,680
that's today the the backs stop right so

3789
02:26:41,680 --> 02:26:43,280
yeah if you want to change that

3790
02:26:43,280 --> 02:26:46,160
>> this is policy here not necessarily u

3791
02:26:46,160 --> 02:26:49,040
>> it's good policy I'm not

3792
02:26:49,040 --> 02:26:50,720
policy so I don't think it has the the

3793
02:26:50,720 --> 02:26:52,080
teeth that you might be looking for so

3794
02:26:52,080 --> 02:26:54,000
if you want to look at that I think

3795
02:26:54,000 --> 02:26:56,960
>> uh my question that I mouth to Van he's

3796
02:26:56,960 --> 02:26:59,840
like I can't read your lips u is what is

3797
02:26:59,840 --> 02:27:02,297
the legislative action in that

3798
02:27:02,297 --> 02:27:03,359
[cough and clears throat] question that

3799
02:27:03,359 --> 02:27:04,960
you're asking I don't know so we can we

3800
02:27:04,960 --> 02:27:05,520
can talk through that

3801
02:27:05,520 --> 02:27:07,439
>> and and we may not need it here if we're

3802
02:27:07,439 --> 02:27:08,560
covered

3803
02:27:08,560 --> 02:27:09,680
>> in another location.

3804
02:27:09,680 --> 02:27:11,359
>> To your point, Shane, I understand why

3805
02:27:11,359 --> 02:27:14,479
you're asking because if if the city's

3806
02:27:14,479 --> 02:27:15,920
got the opportunity to bring in a

3807
02:27:15,920 --> 02:27:18,240
company that's going to use 15 megawws

3808
02:27:18,240 --> 02:27:20,479
to produce whatever and they employ a

3809
02:27:20,479 --> 02:27:22,479
100 people and generate a certain amount

3810
02:27:22,479 --> 02:27:25,200
of tax revenue to the city as compared

3811
02:27:25,200 --> 02:27:28,160
to three businesses that will produce

3812
02:27:28,160 --> 02:27:30,160
the same amount of energy but employ a

3813
02:27:30,160 --> 02:27:31,520
lot more people

3814
02:27:31,520 --> 02:27:35,200
>> and generate a lot more revenue.

3815
02:27:35,200 --> 02:27:38,160
Do you throw it to the one individual,

3816
02:27:38,160 --> 02:27:40,240
you know, that came first or do you hope

3817
02:27:40,240 --> 02:27:42,399
you can get the three? I mean, how how

3818
02:27:42,399 --> 02:27:44,800
does that work when it's when it's not

3819
02:27:44,800 --> 02:27:46,399
legislative and it's all

3820
02:27:46,399 --> 02:27:48,319
>> I I think you're thinking that there's

3821
02:27:48,319 --> 02:27:49,840
going to be like that you have

3822
02:27:49,840 --> 02:27:56,640
>> there's more than one. Well, that that like we have the the the

3823
02:27:56,640 --> 02:27:59,520
never- ending uh

3824
02:27:59,520 --> 02:28:01,920
ability to serve that power like it's

3825
02:28:01,920 --> 02:28:05,200
not it is a very much of if you are

3826
02:28:05,200 --> 02:28:08,160
hooked to our system and and you're

3827
02:28:08,160 --> 02:28:11,920
talking about this amount of power

3828
02:28:11,920 --> 02:28:15,520
that's created somewhere and then having

3829
02:28:15,520 --> 02:28:18,560
to be delivered that it it

3830
02:28:18,560 --> 02:28:20,800
>> the economics of this stuff can restrict

3831
02:28:20,800 --> 02:28:24,479
itself before government needs for sure

3832
02:28:24,479 --> 02:28:26,240
to jump in and say let's put some more

3833
02:28:26,240 --> 02:28:27,920
legislation and some more restrictions

3834
02:28:27,920 --> 02:28:29,040
and let's talk about this.

3835
02:28:29,040 --> 02:28:31,600
>> It's not an infinite resource once it's

3836
02:28:31,600 --> 02:28:32,240
>> 100%

3837
02:28:32,240 --> 02:28:34,160
>> gone. So

3838
02:28:34,160 --> 02:28:38,240
>> yeah I I don't it feels like this is

3839
02:28:38,240 --> 02:28:41,120
the the sequencing of the tonight's

3840
02:28:41,120 --> 02:28:44,080
conversation seems backwards to me. This

3841
02:28:44,080 --> 02:28:47,920
is a a an issue for any business

3842
02:28:47,920 --> 02:28:50,960
requiring power anywhere in our city.

3843
02:28:50,960 --> 02:28:53,280
There are this is a good policy to

3844
02:28:53,280 --> 02:28:56,000
follow when anything over these limits

3845
02:28:56,000 --> 02:28:57,920
come in.

3846
02:28:57,920 --> 02:29:00,720
We're we don't necessarily need to be

3847
02:29:00,720 --> 02:29:01,680
involved with these kind of

3848
02:29:01,680 --> 02:29:04,000
conversations. If the front end of it is

3849
02:29:04,000 --> 02:29:06,720
this is the use, it it complies with our

3850
02:29:06,720 --> 02:29:08,000
policy or it doesn't comply with our

3851
02:29:08,000 --> 02:29:08,960
policy.

3852
02:29:08,960 --> 02:29:10,960
>> That's where I want to talk about

3853
02:29:10,960 --> 02:29:13,920
>> once it gets to here. We've almost said

3854
02:29:13,920 --> 02:29:15,600
that makes sense, right?

3855
02:29:15,600 --> 02:29:18,800
>> Yeah. Whatever that whatever that thing is industry,

3856
02:29:18,800 --> 02:29:20,560
whatever it is, if it meets our

3857
02:29:20,560 --> 02:29:21,760
requirements, right,

3858
02:29:21,760 --> 02:29:23,439
>> we can't then pick and choose.

3859
02:29:23,439 --> 02:29:24,960
>> Correct. And then then I think Mike,

3860
02:29:24,960 --> 02:29:28,160
you're spot on. The the market is going

3861
02:29:28,160 --> 02:29:30,160
to dictate most of this and we won't

3862
02:29:30,160 --> 02:29:32,080
have to get into that business.

3863
02:29:32,080 --> 02:29:33,600
Um,

3864
02:29:33,600 --> 02:29:35,840
that's why I I I appreciate that we need

3865
02:29:35,840 --> 02:29:38,000
this absolutely 100% because there are

3866
02:29:38,000 --> 02:29:42,160
some big users out there. Um, and we

3867
02:29:42,160 --> 02:29:46,240
need to protect ourselves, but

3868
02:29:46,240 --> 02:29:49,920
it's it's the use of the property that

3869
02:29:49,920 --> 02:29:51,840
really matters.

3870
02:29:51,840 --> 02:29:54,880
Um, and I guess we'll get that in the

3871
02:29:54,880 --> 02:29:57,839
second comma of this conversation.

3872
02:29:57,839 --> 02:29:57,920
>> [snorts]

3873
02:29:57,920 --> 02:30:00,800
>> You know, I want to draw a distinction

3874
02:30:00,800 --> 02:30:03,840
between this discussion and most of what

3875
02:30:03,840 --> 02:30:05,359
you're going to hear from valition

3876
02:30:05,359 --> 02:30:08,560
about, but for like what we see in that

3877
02:30:08,560 --> 02:30:09,840
last row there,

3878
02:30:09,840 --> 02:30:12,319
>> the island and data center,

3879
02:30:12,319 --> 02:30:14,240
>> this really does not apply to that. So,

3880
02:30:14,240 --> 02:30:17,040
>> I I agree with you. That's I I

3881
02:30:17,040 --> 02:30:18,160
appreciate you saying that, Dave,

3882
02:30:18,160 --> 02:30:19,439
because I think

3883
02:30:19,439 --> 02:30:21,120
>> um [snorts] if I'm out there listening

3884
02:30:21,120 --> 02:30:22,560
tonight, and I think we got an email,

3885
02:30:22,560 --> 02:30:26,000
you got an email data centers. No. Um, I

3886
02:30:26,000 --> 02:30:28,960
heard a topic that's data centers and we

3887
02:30:28,960 --> 02:30:32,640
started the conversation about power and

3888
02:30:32,640 --> 02:30:35,600
I'm thinking are these Yahoos sneaking

3889
02:30:35,600 --> 02:30:38,080
this data center conversation through a

3890
02:30:38,080 --> 02:30:39,760
power lens? That's not the intent

3891
02:30:39,760 --> 02:30:42,319
tonight. I think the intent is twofold.

3892
02:30:42,319 --> 02:30:44,000
We need this regardless of the

3893
02:30:44,000 --> 02:30:45,520
presentation we're going to hear because

3894
02:30:45,520 --> 02:30:48,399
there are users that need more power.

3895
02:30:48,399 --> 02:30:49,920
Some of them happen to be data centers.

3896
02:30:49,920 --> 02:30:51,280
So, I think this is a good conversation

3897
02:30:51,280 --> 02:30:56,640
to have, but you're right. It's not to generate the next

3898
02:30:56,640 --> 02:30:57,359
presentation.

3899
02:30:57,359 --> 02:31:00,080
>> It really isn't. Now, there there can be

3900
02:31:00,080 --> 02:31:01,520
a connection. Certainly.

3901
02:31:01,520 --> 02:31:03,200
>> Yeah. We put the words on the thing. So,

3902
02:31:03,200 --> 02:31:05,760
there's a connection. Yes. But not the

3903
02:31:05,760 --> 02:31:06,960
>> And [snorts] I think this goes without

3904
02:31:06,960 --> 02:31:08,640
saying, but just to be clear, and I'll

3905
02:31:08,640 --> 02:31:11,439
let anybody that's been involved tell me

3906
02:31:11,439 --> 02:31:13,680
if I'm wrong, but everything that we've

3907
02:31:13,680 --> 02:31:17,280
talked about so far, these are ideas.

3908
02:31:17,280 --> 02:31:21,120
These are policy ideas. It's draft.

3909
02:31:21,120 --> 02:31:23,680
Um, we've discussed it several times. I

3910
02:31:23,680 --> 02:31:27,439
think um, with us and advice that we've

3911
02:31:27,439 --> 02:31:29,359
received from UNMPA, I think we're

3912
02:31:29,359 --> 02:31:32,000
getting pretty comfortable that in terms

3913
02:31:32,000 --> 02:31:33,680
of what we'd recommend that the council

3914
02:31:33,680 --> 02:31:36,000
consider, I think that probably would be

3915
02:31:36,000 --> 02:31:38,000
forthcoming maybe in just a matter of

3916
02:31:38,000 --> 02:31:42,640
weeks, but not not set in stone. Um, and

3917
02:31:42,640 --> 02:31:45,280
maybe as much as it might just introduce

3918
02:31:45,280 --> 02:31:47,359
this to you in this forum. So,

3919
02:31:47,359 --> 02:31:49,920
>> and this is a touch point for us. on I

3920
02:31:49,920 --> 02:31:50,960
can't remember when we had this

3921
02:31:50,960 --> 02:31:53,600
conversation and work session where it

3922
02:31:53,600 --> 02:31:55,920
was kind of a one two three not it and I

3923
02:31:55,920 --> 02:31:57,760
think Landon was the slowest one to say

3924
02:31:57,760 --> 02:32:00,325
not it so we got put on this committee

3925
02:32:00,325 --> 02:32:01,520
[laughter]

3926
02:32:01,520 --> 02:32:03,120
>> this is a touch point for us to see our

3927
02:32:03,120 --> 02:32:04,720
you know in terms of this overarching

3928
02:32:04,720 --> 02:32:07,600
policy how are we doing along with that

3929
02:32:07,600 --> 02:32:10,560
this policy does say and and I think

3930
02:32:10,560 --> 02:32:13,359
it's important to highlight the concept

3931
02:32:13,359 --> 02:32:16,399
of an islanded user

3932
02:32:16,399 --> 02:32:19,439
is really an uncomfortable one for us

3933
02:32:19,439 --> 02:32:21,600
because we don't want anybody to just

3934
02:32:21,600 --> 02:32:23,680
disconnect from the grid. We want it to

3935
02:32:23,680 --> 02:32:26,080
be connected to our system. And so this

3936
02:32:26,080 --> 02:32:28,960
does also address

3937
02:32:28,960 --> 02:32:31,600
when somebody could disconnect from the

3938
02:32:31,600 --> 02:32:33,760
grid or not ever connect from the grid

3939
02:32:33,760 --> 02:32:36,960
and have an islanded use. I think we

3940
02:32:36,960 --> 02:32:38,960
probably misidentify that and say

3941
02:32:38,960 --> 02:32:40,720
islanded data center. I guess it could

3942
02:32:40,720 --> 02:32:42,720
be anybody. Doesn't necessarily have to

3943
02:32:42,720 --> 02:32:43,920
be a data center, right?

3944
02:32:43,920 --> 02:32:45,840
>> Way to phrase it. Yeah. But we're we're

3945
02:32:45,840 --> 02:32:48,399
targeting that as a user greater than 50

3946
02:32:48,399 --> 02:32:50,160
megawatts, which is huge, right? That's

3947
02:32:50,160 --> 02:32:52,479
half the town right now. And and we

3948
02:32:52,479 --> 02:32:53,680
don't know if that's the right number,

3949
02:32:53,680 --> 02:32:55,600
but right now Jake is saying, "Hey,

3950
02:32:55,600 --> 02:32:57,280
let's set that number high because we

3951
02:32:57,280 --> 02:32:58,640
want to provide the power and we want to

3952
02:32:58,640 --> 02:33:00,640
work through that." But candidly, if

3953
02:33:00,640 --> 02:33:03,040
anybody wanted to use 50 megawatts of

3954
02:33:03,040 --> 02:33:05,920
power, it would require probably at

3955
02:33:05,920 --> 02:33:09,439
least two new substations.

3956
02:33:09,439 --> 02:33:13,040
uh probably a connected power line that

3957
02:33:13,040 --> 02:33:15,280
goes from a point where the 138 line

3958
02:33:15,280 --> 02:33:17,280
ends to where it can connect to another

3959
02:33:17,280 --> 02:33:20,000
138 KV substation which is probably 30

3960
02:33:20,000 --> 02:33:22,160
million or $40 million. So if somebody

3961
02:33:22,160 --> 02:33:24,399
wanted to use 40 mega 40 megawatts of

3962
02:33:24,399 --> 02:33:26,479
power on the system, it's only going to

3963
02:33:26,479 --> 02:33:28,640
happen with a significant amount of talk

3964
02:33:28,640 --> 02:33:30,720
and and conversation because it's not

3965
02:33:30,720 --> 02:33:31,439
there today.

3966
02:33:31,439 --> 02:33:35,840
>> Sure. and and so yeah, we so as far as

3967
02:33:35,840 --> 02:33:37,200
this goes, we're wanting to make sure

3968
02:33:37,200 --> 02:33:42,560
are we headed in a good direction as a group because we don't want to keep

3969
02:33:42,560 --> 02:33:44,720
fleshing this out if if we're missing

3970
02:33:44,720 --> 02:33:46,319
the mark from your perspective on some

3971
02:33:46,319 --> 02:33:47,760
things.

3972
02:33:47,760 --> 02:33:48,880
>> And that's where that's where I'm

3973
02:33:48,880 --> 02:33:51,920
getting at on like the the above one and

3974
02:33:51,920 --> 02:33:53,840
a half megawatts there subject to this

3975
02:33:53,840 --> 02:33:56,319
po to this policy and UNMPA oversight

3976
02:33:56,319 --> 02:33:58,000
and Pacific Core system. you were

3977
02:33:58,000 --> 02:33:59,920
talking about the organization that

3978
02:33:59,920 --> 02:34:03,359
we're part of a power consortium of that

3979
02:34:03,359 --> 02:34:06,080
this is how much power we can produce is

3980
02:34:06,080 --> 02:34:07,520
this is how much we can buy on the

3981
02:34:07,520 --> 02:34:09,840
market and then Pacific Corp how much

3982
02:34:09,840 --> 02:34:12,240
they would even sell us and so there's

3983
02:34:12,240 --> 02:34:14,720
some parameters in there that that are

3984
02:34:14,720 --> 02:34:18,080
certainly beyond just us saying yeah

3985
02:34:18,080 --> 02:34:20,720
that you know come or not come who

3986
02:34:20,720 --> 02:34:23,520
depending who who you are that's a lot

3987
02:34:23,520 --> 02:34:25,520
of study that's a lot of money that's a

3988
02:34:25,520 --> 02:34:27,120
lot of things to say are you sure you

3989
02:34:27,120 --> 02:34:28,800
need that kind of that kind of power in

3990
02:34:28,800 --> 02:34:29,600
the first place. But

3991
02:34:29,600 --> 02:34:31,520
>> for sure if you that kind of power,

3992
02:34:31,520 --> 02:34:32,880
you're generating something that's

3993
02:34:32,880 --> 02:34:34,720
making you money.

3994
02:34:34,720 --> 02:34:36,800
>> No doubt. And I think part of my part of

3995
02:34:36,800 --> 02:34:39,040
my concern is not not the policy at all.

3996
02:34:39,040 --> 02:34:40,160
I think you've done a great job of

3997
02:34:40,160 --> 02:34:41,760
outlining this. It's probably just the

3998
02:34:41,760 --> 02:34:45,439
way we put it on the agenda as large

3999
02:34:45,439 --> 02:34:48,160
power users, island power and data

4000
02:34:48,160 --> 02:34:50,880
centers. I can see people going large

4001
02:34:50,880 --> 02:34:53,439
power users, island power equal data

4002
02:34:53,439 --> 02:34:55,840
center. And it's that's not the that's

4003
02:34:55,840 --> 02:34:56,960
not the conversation we're having

4004
02:34:56,960 --> 02:34:59,439
tonight. It's large power users and a

4005
02:34:59,439 --> 02:35:01,439
conversation

4006
02:35:01,439 --> 02:35:05,520
well island power. Next topic let's talk

4007
02:35:05,520 --> 02:35:07,439
about data centers. So it's probably

4008
02:35:07,439 --> 02:35:10,240
just in my head I'm just semantics a

4009
02:35:10,240 --> 02:35:12,880
little bit but um I want to make sure

4010
02:35:12,880 --> 02:35:14,640
that we have a very open and transparent

4011
02:35:14,640 --> 02:35:18,000
conversation over the next 16 hours.

4012
02:35:18,000 --> 02:35:21,120
Just buckle up.

4013
02:35:21,120 --> 02:35:25,342
>> I'm just kidding. Um but it's

4014
02:35:25,342 --> 02:35:26,479
>> [laughter]

4015
02:35:26,479 --> 02:35:27,439
>> eight seconds.

4016
02:35:27,439 --> 02:35:31,280
>> It's it's it it's given the impression

4017
02:35:31,280 --> 02:35:34,880
that we are our only concern is power

4018
02:35:34,880 --> 02:35:37,600
and I think we're going to figure out

4019
02:35:37,600 --> 02:35:39,359
we'll be we'll show the public in the

4020
02:35:39,359 --> 02:35:40,720
next, you know, 30 minutes of

4021
02:35:40,720 --> 02:35:42,399
conversation. It's not our only problem.

4022
02:35:42,399 --> 02:35:44,720
So anyway, this is good data. I think

4023
02:35:44,720 --> 02:35:45,840
you're heading in the right direction,

4024
02:35:45,840 --> 02:35:46,960
Corey.

4025
02:35:46,960 --> 02:35:48,800
um figure out where the legislative

4026
02:35:48,800 --> 02:35:52,319
touch points are or are not and keep the

4027
02:35:52,319 --> 02:35:54,000
thing moving.

4028
02:35:54,000 --> 02:35:56,160
>> Yeah. And I I think it's worth noting,

4029
02:35:56,160 --> 02:35:58,080
you know, as Dave mentioned, we've had

4030
02:35:58,080 --> 02:36:00,880
several users. He highlighted a few, but

4031
02:36:00,880 --> 02:36:02,319
Jake would tell you he gets calls

4032
02:36:02,319 --> 02:36:02,960
weekly.

4033
02:36:02,960 --> 02:36:03,439
>> Sure.

4034
02:36:03,439 --> 02:36:04,960
>> And Dave would tell you he gets calls

4035
02:36:04,960 --> 02:36:07,120
weekly. And that's and often it's like,

4036
02:36:07,120 --> 02:36:09,439
boy, what what do we do with this?

4037
02:36:09,439 --> 02:36:12,640
Because it's so far from a power

4038
02:36:12,640 --> 02:36:15,280
standpoint beyond what we're used to

4039
02:36:15,280 --> 02:36:18,399
today. and what is that process? And

4040
02:36:18,399 --> 02:36:20,479
that's this policy procedure thought

4041
02:36:20,479 --> 02:36:22,160
here.

4042
02:36:22,160 --> 02:36:23,760
And yeah, a lot of this probably

4043
02:36:23,760 --> 02:36:25,600
shouldn't say data center in that

4044
02:36:25,600 --> 02:36:28,160
regard. It's there because that's a lot

4045
02:36:28,160 --> 02:36:30,080
of what requests we're getting in the

4046
02:36:30,080 --> 02:36:32,000
environment we're in right now.

4047
02:36:32,000 --> 02:36:33,840
>> But it's not just that. This is the

4048
02:36:33,840 --> 02:36:36,800
intent for all large loads. And if it

4049
02:36:36,800 --> 02:36:38,880
gets in a certain what is the process,

4050
02:36:38,880 --> 02:36:41,040
what is the legislative touch points? I

4051
02:36:41,040 --> 02:36:43,040
think that's important. And today we

4052
02:36:43,040 --> 02:36:44,399
haven't looked at it from that. We've

4053
02:36:44,399 --> 02:36:48,000
looked at it from a loading point um and

4054
02:36:48,000 --> 02:36:50,000
maybe need to focus some effort in of

4055
02:36:50,000 --> 02:36:51,760
Yeah. How do we how do we get these

4056
02:36:51,760 --> 02:36:52,880
touch points?

4057
02:36:52,880 --> 02:36:54,960
>> Okay.

4058
02:36:54,960 --> 02:36:55,520
>> Thank you.

4059
02:36:55,520 --> 02:36:59,439
>> Anything else for Dave or Corey?

4060
02:36:59,439 --> 02:37:01,760
You got some more slides before we

4061
02:37:01,760 --> 02:37:02,479
>> Nope.

4062
02:37:02,479 --> 02:37:04,000
That's it.

4063
02:37:04,000 --> 02:37:05,280
>> Finish [snorts] the handoff here if

4064
02:37:05,280 --> 02:37:05,840
that's okay.

4065
02:37:05,840 --> 02:37:06,880
>> Yep.

4066
02:37:06,880 --> 02:37:08,640
>> Um

4067
02:37:08,640 --> 02:37:10,800
Mr. Chavez, you ready? I think we're

4068
02:37:10,800 --> 02:37:13,280
ready to go.

4069
02:37:13,280 --> 02:37:15,920
Jeff's very capable at describing what

4070
02:37:15,920 --> 02:37:17,520
he would like to do in Spanish Fork.

4071
02:37:17,520 --> 02:37:18,800
I've appreciated the opportunity to get

4072
02:37:18,800 --> 02:37:21,760
to know more about the concept and we're

4073
02:37:21,760 --> 02:37:23,040
excited tonight to have him share it

4074
02:37:23,040 --> 02:37:24,319
with you and the rest of the community.

4075
02:37:24,319 --> 02:37:30,150
So that's it. Thank you.

4076
02:37:30,160 --> 02:37:32,560
» Thank you. Uh Mr. Oh, go ahead.

4077
02:37:32,560 --> 02:37:34,160
>> State your name for Terara so she gets

4078
02:37:34,160 --> 02:37:34,800
it on the record.

4079
02:37:34,800 --> 02:37:37,840
>> Jeff Chavez, CEO of Valition.

4080
02:37:37,840 --> 02:37:39,359
>> Thank you.

4081
02:37:39,359 --> 02:37:41,600
And do we know Tara if sound will play

4082
02:37:41,600 --> 02:37:43,359
on a video clip?

4083
02:37:43,359 --> 02:37:43,920
>> Yes.

4084
02:37:43,920 --> 02:37:44,399
>> Okay.

4085
02:37:44,399 --> 02:37:44,720
>> Jack.

4086
02:37:44,720 --> 02:37:46,479
>> Just check.

4087
02:37:46,479 --> 02:37:49,990
>> Okay. Great.

4088
02:37:50,000 --> 02:37:51,600
» Great.

4089
02:37:51,600 --> 02:37:53,840
Uh Mr. Mayor and Council, it's good to

4090
02:37:53,840 --> 02:37:55,840
be with you again. Appreciate you giving

4091
02:37:55,840 --> 02:37:59,520
us time uh to continue this conversation

4092
02:37:59,520 --> 02:38:02,160
and to the rest of the leadership here.

4093
02:38:02,160 --> 02:38:05,760
Um, you know, I just wanted to say that

4094
02:38:05,760 --> 02:38:09,680
regardless of where we land together,

4095
02:38:09,680 --> 02:38:11,600
uh, it's really genuinely been a been a

4096
02:38:11,600 --> 02:38:13,600
pleasure working with with the city of

4097
02:38:13,600 --> 02:38:16,240
Spanish Fork, um, really it's been very

4098
02:38:16,240 --> 02:38:17,520
collaborative. We began this

4099
02:38:17,520 --> 02:38:20,640
conversation, um,

4100
02:38:20,640 --> 02:38:23,040
probably in October or [clears throat]

4101
02:38:23,040 --> 02:38:27,120
November, um, is where this all began

4102
02:38:27,120 --> 02:38:29,439
from its, you know, initial

4103
02:38:29,439 --> 02:38:32,240
consideration. And so anyway, we just

4104
02:38:32,240 --> 02:38:34,560
appreciate the thoughtful um and

4105
02:38:34,560 --> 02:38:36,960
collaborative approach.

4106
02:38:36,960 --> 02:38:39,600
Um for a little bit of background,

4107
02:38:39,600 --> 02:38:42,000
especially for those who may be hearing

4108
02:38:42,000 --> 02:38:46,080
about this for the first time, um

4109
02:38:46,080 --> 02:38:50,160
Valition um began

4110
02:38:50,160 --> 02:38:53,359
in the power industry.

4111
02:38:53,359 --> 02:38:57,920
So this company began as we um

4112
02:38:57,920 --> 02:38:59,920
understood

4113
02:38:59,920 --> 02:39:04,319
that power was accelerating as a major

4114
02:39:04,319 --> 02:39:07,200
challenge and problem in the United

4115
02:39:07,200 --> 02:39:12,160
States. So if we go back to the 2025

4116
02:39:12,160 --> 02:39:15,680
2015 2016 window,

4117
02:39:15,680 --> 02:39:19,180
that's sort of the genesis of this

4118
02:39:19,180 --> 02:39:21,040
[clears throat] company.

4119
02:39:21,040 --> 02:39:25,040
As we began to see rapidly accelerating

4120
02:39:25,040 --> 02:39:29,520
electricity rates, as we began to see uh

4121
02:39:29,520 --> 02:39:32,880
utilities having to invest hundreds of

4122
02:39:32,880 --> 02:39:35,040
millions of dollars into infrastructure

4123
02:39:35,040 --> 02:39:37,280
throughout the country

4124
02:39:37,280 --> 02:39:40,160
and then passing much of that cost

4125
02:39:40,160 --> 02:39:42,240
through to

4126
02:39:42,240 --> 02:39:45,040
uh homeowners and businesses

4127
02:39:45,040 --> 02:39:47,760
um with a projection that indicated that

4128
02:39:47,760 --> 02:39:50,399
this would continue um on a percentage

4129
02:39:50,399 --> 02:39:52,800
basis. year-over-year.

4130
02:39:52,800 --> 02:39:58,800
And so our um work began looking at

4131
02:39:58,800 --> 02:40:02,160
um a combination of renewable solutions

4132
02:40:02,160 --> 02:40:06,640
uh renewable water technology, renewable

4133
02:40:06,640 --> 02:40:09,840
power generation technology.

4134
02:40:09,840 --> 02:40:12,880
And that work uh led us to begin looking

4135
02:40:12,880 --> 02:40:16,000
at how to build onsite power systems or

4136
02:40:16,000 --> 02:40:20,080
micro grids uh to offset the cost of

4137
02:40:20,080 --> 02:40:21,920
energy and to become a positive

4138
02:40:21,920 --> 02:40:26,080
supplement uh to the grid by creating

4139
02:40:26,080 --> 02:40:30,000
some type of offset.

4140
02:40:30,000 --> 02:40:34,720
Somewhere in the 2023

4141
02:40:34,720 --> 02:40:39,280
period, 2022 period, we began to really

4142
02:40:39,280 --> 02:40:41,840
look closely at what was happening in

4143
02:40:41,840 --> 02:40:45,359
the data center industry. Um, taking a

4144
02:40:45,359 --> 02:40:48,560
broad look at large hyperscale data

4145
02:40:48,560 --> 02:40:50,319
centers that had been built over the

4146
02:40:50,319 --> 02:40:53,600
last 20 years and that were accelerating

4147
02:40:53,600 --> 02:40:55,439
their application for deployment

4148
02:40:55,439 --> 02:40:58,080
throughout the United States. And for

4149
02:40:58,080 --> 02:41:01,120
context, we're talking about 50 megawws

4150
02:41:01,120 --> 02:41:04,399
here. A hypers scale facility is looking

4151
02:41:04,399 --> 02:41:07,359
to build projects that are in the one,

4152
02:41:07,359 --> 02:41:10,479
two, three, four gigawatt

4153
02:41:10,479 --> 02:41:14,000
uh power category. And those

4154
02:41:14,000 --> 02:41:17,040
developments um

4155
02:41:17,040 --> 02:41:18,880
have

4156
02:41:18,880 --> 02:41:22,000
become cause for concern, especially

4157
02:41:22,000 --> 02:41:27,359
some of those that were built um call it

4158
02:41:27,359 --> 02:41:31,120
four years or later. Um, from a resource

4159
02:41:31,120 --> 02:41:34,080
standpoint, from a water uh, waste

4160
02:41:34,080 --> 02:41:37,680
standpoint, from a noise standpoint, and

4161
02:41:37,680 --> 02:41:41,600
from a power demand standpoint.

4162
02:41:41,600 --> 02:41:44,880
And so with our understanding of uh

4163
02:41:44,880 --> 02:41:47,040
power generation

4164
02:41:47,040 --> 02:41:49,600
um and in particular the n the US

4165
02:41:49,600 --> 02:41:52,080
natural gas infrastructure

4166
02:41:52,080 --> 02:41:54,160
its stability

4167
02:41:54,160 --> 02:41:59,200
and its uh clean capability if utilized

4168
02:41:59,200 --> 02:42:03,359
in in the right um deployment.

4169
02:42:03,359 --> 02:42:06,319
we began to realize that uh we could

4170
02:42:06,319 --> 02:42:08,000
innovate

4171
02:42:08,000 --> 02:42:12,560
uh towards a data center infrastructure

4172
02:42:12,560 --> 02:42:22,389
um that could be sustainable.

4173
02:42:22,399 --> 02:42:25,520
And so our approach has been um

4174
02:42:25,520 --> 02:42:29,280
especially in the last two years

4175
02:42:29,280 --> 02:42:33,920
to really initiate a conversation with

4176
02:42:33,920 --> 02:42:36,240
communities

4177
02:42:36,240 --> 02:42:38,960
about the concerns that everybody is

4178
02:42:38,960 --> 02:42:42,800
aware of. And um obviously the volume

4179
02:42:42,800 --> 02:42:45,439
around data center concern has

4180
02:42:45,439 --> 02:42:48,160
dramatically increased here in Utah and

4181
02:42:48,160 --> 02:42:52,000
around the country um especially in the

4182
02:42:52,000 --> 02:42:54,640
last just six months.

4183
02:42:54,640 --> 02:42:56,560
We were already addressing these. We

4184
02:42:56,560 --> 02:42:58,640
were already aware of them. And so we

4185
02:42:58,640 --> 02:43:00,399
know what the the concerns are,

4186
02:43:00,399 --> 02:43:04,319
electricity, noise, water, air quality.

4187
02:43:04,319 --> 02:43:07,840
Um and our approach has been to address

4188
02:43:07,840 --> 02:43:11,280
these uh transparently and openly.

4189
02:43:11,280 --> 02:43:14,240
Part of what we've done as we have uh

4190
02:43:14,240 --> 02:43:16,319
begun to consider

4191
02:43:16,319 --> 02:43:18,080
um

4192
02:43:18,080 --> 02:43:22,000
building a sustainable data center in

4193
02:43:22,000 --> 02:43:27,040
Utah um has be has included an

4194
02:43:27,040 --> 02:43:31,439
initiative where we've began to interact

4195
02:43:31,439 --> 02:43:34,640
um even just with some small campaigns

4196
02:43:34,640 --> 02:43:38,640
on Instagram. Um, I'm going to show you

4197
02:43:38,640 --> 02:43:41,439
a a brief video

4198
02:43:41,439 --> 02:43:46,240
um that has run and received over I

4199
02:43:46,240 --> 02:43:49,120
think 300,000 impressions in Utah County

4200
02:43:49,120 --> 02:43:51,359
as we begin to have this conversation.

4201
02:43:51,359 --> 02:43:53,040
It's also allowed us to get some of the

4202
02:43:53,040 --> 02:43:56,479
initial feedback as uh we position

4203
02:43:56,479 --> 02:43:59,520
ourselves as an innovative solution. Let

4204
02:43:59,520 --> 02:44:01,840
me pray play this uh two minutes quickly

4205
02:44:01,840 --> 02:44:03,840
and then uh talk about how we're

4206
02:44:03,840 --> 02:44:07,359
continuing our approach in um the

4207
02:44:07,359 --> 02:44:13,269
dialogue with the community. Oops.

4208
02:44:13,279 --> 02:44:21,830
You might have to click on

4209
02:44:21,840 --> 02:44:24,080
you know. Oh, there we go. There's our

4210
02:44:24,080 --> 02:44:28,630
link.

4211
02:44:28,640 --> 02:44:40,070
I saw a link when you clicked on there

4212
02:44:40,080 --> 02:44:42,080
» there.

4213
02:44:42,080 --> 02:44:44,240
If we don't find it quickly, there may

4214
02:44:44,240 --> 02:44:46,720
be a chance that

4215
02:44:46,720 --> 02:44:50,080
it didn't remain embedded when we

4216
02:44:50,080 --> 02:44:52,960
emailed it over.

4217
02:44:52,960 --> 02:44:55,760
And there you go. This will work. Thank

4218
02:44:55,760 --> 02:45:03,590
you.

4219
02:45:03,600 --> 02:45:14,389
might need to hit volume.

4220
02:45:14,399 --> 02:45:20,230
We didn't set out

4221
02:45:20,240 --> 02:45:23,040
to build data centers.

4222
02:45:23,040 --> 02:45:26,240
We began by looking for ways to reduce

4223
02:45:26,240 --> 02:45:28,479
energy costs in communities across

4224
02:45:28,479 --> 02:45:31,279
America.

4225
02:45:31,279 --> 02:45:34,479
We realized soon after there was a

4226
02:45:34,479 --> 02:45:37,279
better way to build data centers that

4227
02:45:37,279 --> 02:45:40,000
worked for the community.

4228
02:45:40,000 --> 02:45:43,750
That's our mission.

4229
02:45:43,760 --> 02:45:47,279
We all know that there's no stopping our

4230
02:45:47,279 --> 02:45:49,359
need for additional data. Data centers

4231
02:45:49,359 --> 02:45:50,960
are going to be built whether we're

4232
02:45:50,960 --> 02:45:53,760
comfortable with that or not. But growth

4233
02:45:53,760 --> 02:45:56,240
at all costs can have a negative impact

4234
02:45:56,240 --> 02:45:58,880
on communities. Data centers are

4235
02:45:58,880 --> 02:46:01,680
dramatically stressing our grid. In many

4236
02:46:01,680 --> 02:46:03,840
cases, they use huge amounts of excess

4237
02:46:03,840 --> 02:46:05,600
water and most of them are not low

4238
02:46:05,600 --> 02:46:08,240
emission. Our data centers are

4239
02:46:08,240 --> 02:46:09,760
different.

4240
02:46:09,760 --> 02:46:11,680
We don't require a huge amount of land

4241
02:46:11,680 --> 02:46:13,680
and most importantly, we never touch the

4242
02:46:13,680 --> 02:46:16,880
electric grid. We use no power from the

4243
02:46:16,880 --> 02:46:18,800
local utility.

4244
02:46:18,800 --> 02:46:20,880
Everything we build is based on our

4245
02:46:20,880 --> 02:46:23,359
natural gas infrastructure with a fuel

4246
02:46:23,359 --> 02:46:25,840
cell that runs with extremely low

4247
02:46:25,840 --> 02:46:27,439
emissions.

4248
02:46:27,439 --> 02:46:29,760
We use the same water over and over

4249
02:46:29,760 --> 02:46:31,600
again.

4250
02:46:31,600 --> 02:46:33,920
What's more, all of the technology we

4251
02:46:33,920 --> 02:46:36,720
use on our properties are extremely

4252
02:46:36,720 --> 02:46:40,880
quiet. We can do this better.

4253
02:46:40,880 --> 02:46:42,720
Giving back and sharing resources with

4254
02:46:42,720 --> 02:46:44,560
the community is at the center of our

4255
02:46:44,560 --> 02:46:47,520
purpose. A share of every site's revenue

4256
02:46:47,520 --> 02:46:49,439
flows straight back into the community

4257
02:46:49,439 --> 02:46:51,680
that hosts it.

4258
02:46:51,680 --> 02:46:54,160
At Valition, we've made a commitment to

4259
02:46:54,160 --> 02:46:57,520
be a good neighbor.

4260
02:46:57,520 --> 02:47:08,870
That's a promise we'll keep.

4261
02:47:08,880 --> 02:47:11,359
So, um,

4262
02:47:11,359 --> 02:47:13,279
it's been important, I think, useful for

4263
02:47:13,279 --> 02:47:16,720
us to get, um, feedback. Feedback has

4264
02:47:16,720 --> 02:47:20,160
been to some degree as expected. Um,

4265
02:47:20,160 --> 02:47:22,720
many comments on Instagram that are, you

4266
02:47:22,720 --> 02:47:24,960
know, what you might expect, like just a

4267
02:47:24,960 --> 02:47:27,040
one-word response, liar, you know,

4268
02:47:27,040 --> 02:47:28,319
things like that. Or that I'm running

4269
02:47:28,319 --> 02:47:29,520
for Congress. There was another one on

4270
02:47:29,520 --> 02:47:31,279
there that said, "Oh, no, for for uh the

4271
02:47:31,279 --> 02:47:34,880
governorship," which is not true. Um,

4272
02:47:34,880 --> 02:47:38,560
and that's okay. There are folks who um

4273
02:47:38,560 --> 02:47:41,680
are concerned, and that's our purpose

4274
02:47:41,680 --> 02:47:44,800
really to address those concerns. As we

4275
02:47:44,800 --> 02:47:48,720
lead up to a potential approval of our

4276
02:47:48,720 --> 02:47:51,200
text amendment um and the ability to

4277
02:47:51,200 --> 02:47:56,160
produce power on site, we are hosting um

4278
02:47:56,160 --> 02:47:59,600
a two-day open house that will be here

4279
02:47:59,600 --> 02:48:02,160
at the library. The first session is

4280
02:48:02,160 --> 02:48:05,920
next Thursday from 10:00 a.m. to 12:30

4281
02:48:05,920 --> 02:48:08,720
and then the following day from 10:00

4282
02:48:08,720 --> 02:48:12,080
a.m. to 12:30. And our intent is to

4283
02:48:12,080 --> 02:48:14,800
allow for an environment where we can

4284
02:48:14,800 --> 02:48:18,960
have um a clear conversation. This will

4285
02:48:18,960 --> 02:48:22,640
be run as an open house where we will uh

4286
02:48:22,640 --> 02:48:24,960
take maybe the first 10 minutes with an

4287
02:48:24,960 --> 02:48:26,880
overview similar to this conversation,

4288
02:48:26,880 --> 02:48:29,279
maybe one of these videos that we have.

4289
02:48:29,279 --> 02:48:32,960
Um, I'll then give an overview of our

4290
02:48:32,960 --> 02:48:36,880
design and our approach and then we will

4291
02:48:36,880 --> 02:48:39,439
have uh kind of three or four little

4292
02:48:39,439 --> 02:48:42,080
booth settings where we can one of our

4293
02:48:42,080 --> 02:48:44,240
team members will be there to talk and

4294
02:48:44,240 --> 02:48:46,800
take questions just about power, another

4295
02:48:46,800 --> 02:48:49,359
one uh just about water, another one

4296
02:48:49,359 --> 02:48:52,399
about sound, another one about the the

4297
02:48:52,399 --> 02:48:54,880
proposed use of the existing building

4298
02:48:54,880 --> 02:48:58,800
where we'd like um to stand up this

4299
02:48:58,800 --> 02:49:01,439
facility. And so our intention is to be

4300
02:49:01,439 --> 02:49:03,680
able to not just have community members

4301
02:49:03,680 --> 02:49:06,960
maybe isolated to an hour-long meeting

4302
02:49:06,960 --> 02:49:10,960
in a chamber where uh it's hard to

4303
02:49:10,960 --> 02:49:13,520
address longer conversations.

4304
02:49:13,520 --> 02:49:17,279
Um so we look forward to this. I think

4305
02:49:17,279 --> 02:49:20,399
um this open house may also be uh should

4306
02:49:20,399 --> 02:49:22,479
be informative I think for the city as

4307
02:49:22,479 --> 02:49:26,479
well as you understand more directly how

4308
02:49:26,479 --> 02:49:29,600
Spanish Fork um citizens may be

4309
02:49:29,600 --> 02:49:33,200
responding to this proposal.

4310
02:49:33,200 --> 02:49:35,120
>> Hey Jeff, can we can ask a question for

4311
02:49:35,120 --> 02:49:37,359
everyone? Any chance you could do that

4312
02:49:37,359 --> 02:49:40,479
Saturday between 10 and 12?

4313
02:49:40,479 --> 02:49:41,520
>> Add a date

4314
02:49:41,520 --> 02:49:42,640
>> or move a date?

4315
02:49:42,640 --> 02:49:44,640
>> Need a day when people can come? It's

4316
02:49:44,640 --> 02:49:46,240
tough to be there on a third day

4317
02:49:46,240 --> 02:49:46,720
sometime.

4318
02:49:46,720 --> 02:49:48,560
>> Yeah. You know, Shane, we're totally

4319
02:49:48,560 --> 02:49:50,479
open to any recommendation. In fact,

4320
02:49:50,479 --> 02:49:52,080
today we were sort of struggling with

4321
02:49:52,080 --> 02:49:54,560
this conversation about the time both

4322
02:49:54,560 --> 02:49:56,640
what was available here in the library.

4323
02:49:56,640 --> 02:49:59,359
So, the evenings were both blocked out.

4324
02:49:59,359 --> 02:50:02,960
Um, but we talked about Saturday, so

4325
02:50:02,960 --> 02:50:06,960
we're open to adding a time on Saturday.

4326
02:50:06,960 --> 02:50:10,880
Um, so if you point us in the right

4327
02:50:10,880 --> 02:50:12,800
direction, we're we're willing to do

4328
02:50:12,800 --> 02:50:15,680
more or different or different time

4329
02:50:15,680 --> 02:50:16,319
frame.

4330
02:50:16,319 --> 02:50:16,800
>> Okay.

4331
02:50:16,800 --> 02:50:18,720
>> Um, h happy to do that,

4332
02:50:18,720 --> 02:50:19,520
>> right?

4333
02:50:19,520 --> 02:50:21,279
>> Yeah.

4334
02:50:21,279 --> 02:50:23,920
>> Even if or something else was there.

4335
02:50:23,920 --> 02:50:25,680
>> Yeah.

4336
02:50:25,680 --> 02:50:28,319
>> So when we look at the, you know,

4337
02:50:28,319 --> 02:50:31,920
overall question here, why a data center

4338
02:50:31,920 --> 02:50:33,760
in Spanish Fork or how would a data

4339
02:50:33,760 --> 02:50:36,800
center in Spanish Fork look? Um there

4340
02:50:36,800 --> 02:50:38,640
are really kind of these five pillars.

4341
02:50:38,640 --> 02:50:42,560
One is uh that we bring our own power.

4342
02:50:42,560 --> 02:50:44,800
There is no request from the city to

4343
02:50:44,800 --> 02:50:46,479
upgrade

4344
02:50:46,479 --> 02:50:48,560
um or to do anything for that matter

4345
02:50:48,560 --> 02:50:52,160
that would accommodate our needs. Uh the

4346
02:50:52,160 --> 02:50:55,120
second is that our technology is near

4347
02:50:55,120 --> 02:50:57,359
zero emission.

4348
02:50:57,359 --> 02:50:59,760
We're also going to demonstrate how our

4349
02:50:59,760 --> 02:51:02,080
use of this property

4350
02:51:02,080 --> 02:51:05,520
um is much lower emission than if

4351
02:51:05,520 --> 02:51:08,000
another tenant were to utilize the same

4352
02:51:08,000 --> 02:51:09,200
property. We'll look at that in a

4353
02:51:09,200 --> 02:51:13,920
minute. Um we use water extremely

4354
02:51:13,920 --> 02:51:16,960
carefully and it's really a fraction of

4355
02:51:16,960 --> 02:51:18,880
the water use that many people might

4356
02:51:18,880 --> 02:51:21,040
expect. So we'll walk you through that

4357
02:51:21,040 --> 02:51:22,720
briefly.

4358
02:51:22,720 --> 02:51:25,920
um what we believe is a really

4359
02:51:25,920 --> 02:51:28,240
productive use of an existing building.

4360
02:51:28,240 --> 02:51:31,279
We're not requesting, you know, to buy

4361
02:51:31,279 --> 02:51:34,479
land and to build something new on, you

4362
02:51:34,479 --> 02:51:38,960
know, the the skyline here. Um and then

4363
02:51:38,960 --> 02:51:42,240
um how we intend to ensure that our

4364
02:51:42,240 --> 02:51:46,000
being in Spanish Fork is a positive uh

4365
02:51:46,000 --> 02:51:49,520
in a variety of ways.

4366
02:51:49,520 --> 02:51:52,880
So this first pillar um we literally

4367
02:51:52,880 --> 02:51:57,040
bring our own power. Our system runs on

4368
02:51:57,040 --> 02:51:59,520
natural gas.

4369
02:51:59,520 --> 02:52:04,000
We have an off-grid fuel cell technology

4370
02:52:04,000 --> 02:52:06,560
uh that I'll explain in just a moment.

4371
02:52:06,560 --> 02:52:08,399
Um that requires no transmission

4372
02:52:08,399 --> 02:52:13,439
upgrades, uh no rate impact, um no

4373
02:52:13,439 --> 02:52:15,040
capacity

4374
02:52:15,040 --> 02:52:17,520
uh taken from other tenants and

4375
02:52:17,520 --> 02:52:21,359
businesses who uh intend to

4376
02:52:21,359 --> 02:52:24,240
be here in Spanish Fork. There are no

4377
02:52:24,240 --> 02:52:25,760
diesel generators. The reason we

4378
02:52:25,760 --> 02:52:27,520
highlight this is just because diesel

4379
02:52:27,520 --> 02:52:30,720
generators are at the center of the data

4380
02:52:30,720 --> 02:52:34,000
center conversation. When uh community

4381
02:52:34,000 --> 02:52:37,840
members have uh this incessant problem

4382
02:52:37,840 --> 02:52:41,359
with noise and low hum, these are

4383
02:52:41,359 --> 02:52:44,800
typically from backup generators running

4384
02:52:44,800 --> 02:52:49,760
247 and uh burning diesel. We have uh

4385
02:52:49,760 --> 02:52:52,000
nothing, not even backup on our facility

4386
02:52:52,000 --> 02:52:55,600
w with diesel generators. Um and we have

4387
02:52:55,600 --> 02:52:59,520
already uh been approved by Embridge in

4388
02:52:59,520 --> 02:53:03,439
the engineering and design to upgrade

4389
02:53:03,439 --> 02:53:05,520
the amount of natural gas that comes

4390
02:53:05,520 --> 02:53:08,640
into this property. Um it is a

4391
02:53:08,640 --> 02:53:10,960
substantial cost and that is a cost that

4392
02:53:10,960 --> 02:53:14,080
we uh that we bear completely

4393
02:53:14,080 --> 02:53:18,080
independent of the city.

4394
02:53:18,080 --> 02:53:20,880
This is a look at the bloom energy fuel

4395
02:53:20,880 --> 02:53:25,279
cell. Um this technology um utilizes

4396
02:53:25,279 --> 02:53:27,520
natural gas. When the natural gas comes

4397
02:53:27,520 --> 02:53:31,279
into the fuel cell, there is a chemical

4398
02:53:31,279 --> 02:53:34,720
reaction that occurs. The fuel is not

4399
02:53:34,720 --> 02:53:37,279
burned. It is not consumed. The

4400
02:53:37,279 --> 02:53:41,120
byproduct is heat and a small amount of

4401
02:53:41,120 --> 02:53:43,600
water. Aside from the electricity that

4402
02:53:43,600 --> 02:53:47,359
is created in this chemical reaction,

4403
02:53:47,359 --> 02:53:50,080
uh there are there's over now over two

4404
02:53:50,080 --> 02:53:52,240
gigawatts of this technology deployed

4405
02:53:52,240 --> 02:53:54,960
throughout the world. It is a

4406
02:53:54,960 --> 02:53:57,439
25-year-old technology that has been

4407
02:53:57,439 --> 02:54:01,840
tested and proven uh in over 1500 sites

4408
02:54:01,840 --> 02:54:05,200
throughout the world. Um and we've built

4409
02:54:05,200 --> 02:54:06,560
a great relationship with this company

4410
02:54:06,560 --> 02:54:10,560
over the last u five years. It's a

4411
02:54:10,560 --> 02:54:13,040
phenomenal alternative

4412
02:54:13,040 --> 02:54:17,279
uh to existing power generation.

4413
02:54:17,279 --> 02:54:19,840
Bloom is one of several throughout the

4414
02:54:19,840 --> 02:54:25,279
world who uh develop a fuel cell um all

4415
02:54:25,279 --> 02:54:33,750
of which run uh with very low emission.

4416
02:54:33,760 --> 02:54:36,640
leading us into this next element that

4417
02:54:36,640 --> 02:54:39,680
we focus on which is um our emissions

4418
02:54:39,680 --> 02:54:44,240
and um in the Wasatch front um ozone

4419
02:54:44,240 --> 02:54:46,240
non-attainment area there's a heavy

4420
02:54:46,240 --> 02:54:51,439
focus on nitrogen oxides and um we fall

4421
02:54:51,439 --> 02:54:54,800
below all state uh requirements

4422
02:54:54,800 --> 02:54:57,359
significantly. In fact, uh we've just

4423
02:54:57,359 --> 02:54:59,920
been given the initial uh source minor

4424
02:54:59,920 --> 02:55:02,080
source permit has been approved by the

4425
02:55:02,080 --> 02:55:03,920
Department of Environmental Quality here

4426
02:55:03,920 --> 02:55:05,520
in the state of Utah. That just came

4427
02:55:05,520 --> 02:55:08,800
through last week as they looked at all

4428
02:55:08,800 --> 02:55:11,439
of the systems that uh that we provided

4429
02:55:11,439 --> 02:55:15,279
for them to do research on. Um so we

4430
02:55:15,279 --> 02:55:18,399
have uh near zero local air emissions

4431
02:55:18,399 --> 02:55:21,200
and um our systems don't require any

4432
02:55:21,200 --> 02:55:24,399
type of technological add-on to in any

4433
02:55:24,399 --> 02:55:27,359
way improve their performance. This is

4434
02:55:27,359 --> 02:55:30,319
their performance capability

4435
02:55:30,319 --> 02:55:34,560
um out of the box so to speak.

4436
02:55:34,560 --> 02:55:37,120
>> Hey Jeff, can you go back one? What was

4437
02:55:37,120 --> 02:55:43,429
the permit you you have from DAQ?

4438
02:55:43,439 --> 02:55:46,640
So the permit uh was run through uh

4439
02:55:46,640 --> 02:55:50,479
Stantech who is you know primary

4440
02:55:50,479 --> 02:55:52,000
facilitator.

4441
02:55:52,000 --> 02:55:54,640
>> Um do we know the exact name of the

4442
02:55:54,640 --> 02:56:00,309
permit Ryan? Do we

4443
02:56:00,319 --> 02:56:02,800
» Yeah, it's it's called new minor source

4444
02:56:02,800 --> 02:56:04,080
permit.

4445
02:56:04,080 --> 02:56:08,000
>> Okay. So you have provided them data on

4446
02:56:08,000 --> 02:56:10,240
your expected emissions. They evaluated.

4447
02:56:10,240 --> 02:56:12,000
They agree with those and they said

4448
02:56:12,000 --> 02:56:14,880
because of this

4449
02:56:14,880 --> 02:56:16,479
lack of

4450
02:56:16,479 --> 02:56:18,960
>> you have a permit to operate Bloom

4451
02:56:18,960 --> 02:56:21,040
equipment in Utah County

4452
02:56:21,040 --> 02:56:24,160
>> in Utah County and to the full extent

4453
02:56:24,160 --> 02:56:26,560
that we propose which is over 250

4454
02:56:26,560 --> 02:56:28,960
megawatts of power. So they looked at it

4455
02:56:28,960 --> 02:56:29,840
collectively.

4456
02:56:29,840 --> 02:56:33,520
>> Okay. uh a cumulative approval

4457
02:56:33,520 --> 02:56:36,960
>> and the proposal here would be only 50

4458
02:56:36,960 --> 02:56:40,800
would be only what 20% of that

4459
02:56:40,800 --> 02:56:43,520
>> our proposal to build this facility

4460
02:56:43,520 --> 02:56:46,080
facilitates up to 250 of power.

4461
02:56:46,080 --> 02:56:47,680
>> Okay. Yeah. Thanks. I appreciate that.

4462
02:56:47,680 --> 02:56:47,920
Okay.

4463
02:56:47,920 --> 02:56:49,439
>> One question before you leave this page

4464
02:56:49,439 --> 02:56:51,439
too. So that first box it says the

4465
02:56:51,439 --> 02:56:54,240
natural gas not zero carbon

4466
02:56:54,240 --> 02:56:56,560
>> near zero local air emissions and lowest

4467
02:56:56,560 --> 02:56:59,760
available carbon at this scale. So what

4468
02:56:59,760 --> 02:57:03,120
is so is carbon a byproduct that's being

4469
02:57:03,120 --> 02:57:04,240
put into the atmosphere? I'm just trying

4470
02:57:04,240 --> 02:57:06,479
to understand exa exactly

4471
02:57:06,479 --> 02:57:10,000
>> all you know all um

4472
02:57:10,000 --> 02:57:13,600
in this case Ryan do you want to address

4473
02:57:13,600 --> 02:57:15,600
that phrasing?

4474
02:57:15,600 --> 02:57:18,319
>> You want to start the mic for us that

4475
02:57:18,319 --> 02:57:21,840
way we can everybody can hear you.

4476
02:57:21,840 --> 02:57:23,840
>> Welcome from Spain.

4477
02:57:23,840 --> 02:57:27,520
>> True. Yeah we forgot the

4478
02:57:27,520 --> 02:57:30,160
So the question was what are the

4479
02:57:30,160 --> 02:57:32,000
>> yeah what what are it's saying that it's

4480
02:57:32,000 --> 02:57:33,680
near zero what is it what are the

4481
02:57:33,680 --> 02:57:34,960
byproducts that are being put into the

4482
02:57:34,960 --> 02:57:35,680
air if it's

4483
02:57:35,680 --> 02:57:37,680
>> yes so there will be uh you know the

4484
02:57:37,680 --> 02:57:42,399
major um let's say smog related would be

4485
02:57:42,399 --> 02:57:45,760
um nitrous oxide nox

4486
02:57:45,760 --> 02:57:48,800
um and there is

4487
02:57:48,800 --> 02:57:52,319
um carbon monoxide and

4488
02:57:52,319 --> 02:57:55,120
uh in the in the fuel ga in the um

4489
02:57:55,120 --> 02:57:57,520
natural gas there's an additive

4490
02:57:57,520 --> 02:58:01,680
of sulfur. Um so so it becomes because

4491
02:58:01,680 --> 02:58:04,880
natural gas is

4492
02:58:04,880 --> 02:58:07,120
not you know you can't smell it. So

4493
02:58:07,120 --> 02:58:10,479
sulfur is added so that is scrubbed out

4494
02:58:10,479 --> 02:58:12,880
of there and so there is a small amount

4495
02:58:12,880 --> 02:58:18,960
of sulfur that sulfur uh oxide. So how I

4496
02:58:18,960 --> 02:58:20,560
don't know like you said that you passed

4497
02:58:20,560 --> 02:58:21,920
the emissions so I'm assuming that those

4498
02:58:21,920 --> 02:58:23,359
are pretty stingent but like what would

4499
02:58:23,359 --> 02:58:24,880
it be comparable to because I know

4500
02:58:24,880 --> 02:58:26,720
there's a lot of cells a lot of fuel

4501
02:58:26,720 --> 02:58:28,319
cells being put on the site.

4502
02:58:28,319 --> 02:58:28,640
>> Yeah.

4503
02:58:28,640 --> 02:58:32,399
>> How much are we looking at? Like so yeah

4504
02:58:32,399 --> 02:58:35,840
in the permit um there is

4505
02:58:35,840 --> 02:58:38,080
uh there's a total here.

4506
02:58:38,080 --> 02:58:41,279
>> Um so like nitrogen oxide it's about uh

4507
02:58:41,279 --> 02:58:45,279
five tons a year. Um the there's also

4508
02:58:45,279 --> 02:58:48,000
particulate matter that that comes in at

4509
02:58:48,000 --> 02:58:51,279
less than uh 0.1

4510
02:58:51,279 --> 02:58:54,880
uh tons per year. The sulfur dioxide is

4511
02:58:54,880 --> 02:58:57,520
0.01 tons

4512
02:58:57,520 --> 02:59:01,760
and um the carbon monoxide is 22 tons.

4513
02:59:01,760 --> 02:59:02,800
>> 22 tonsal

4514
02:59:02,800 --> 02:59:04,240
>> for the whole for the whole site.

4515
02:59:04,240 --> 02:59:06,000
>> For the whole site per year.

4516
02:59:06,000 --> 02:59:08,000
>> Yeah.

4517
02:59:08,000 --> 02:59:09,600
So I think part of that question though

4518
02:59:09,600 --> 02:59:12,720
Jesse was it says this is natural gas

4519
02:59:12,720 --> 02:59:16,240
not zero carbon

4520
02:59:16,240 --> 02:59:18,240
>> and then there was some question about

4521
02:59:18,240 --> 02:59:20,000
you don't burn it so carbon isn't

4522
02:59:20,000 --> 02:59:22,800
released like it's a little bit

4523
02:59:22,800 --> 02:59:23,920
>> the phrasing of it I

4524
02:59:23,920 --> 02:59:24,880
>> yeah you're right that could be more

4525
02:59:24,880 --> 02:59:25,680
clear

4526
02:59:25,680 --> 02:59:28,000
>> but there is there is some carbon

4527
02:59:28,000 --> 02:59:29,680
expelled 22 tons a year

4528
02:59:29,680 --> 02:59:31,520
>> what we can't say what this is

4529
02:59:31,520 --> 02:59:33,680
attempting to clarify is we can't say

4530
02:59:33,680 --> 02:59:35,920
that we are net zero

4531
02:59:35,920 --> 02:59:38,000
>> totally yep And so this is just in the

4532
02:59:38,000 --> 02:59:41,840
attempt to be real clear um that there

4533
02:59:41,840 --> 02:59:44,479
is some byproduct and it's extremely low

4534
02:59:44,479 --> 02:59:46,399
and I think some additional slides will

4535
02:59:46,399 --> 02:59:47,680
help give you a comparable.

4536
02:59:47,680 --> 02:59:49,200
>> Yeah, I think I think those numbers that

4537
02:59:49,200 --> 02:59:50,640
Ryan put out there I think those are

4538
02:59:50,640 --> 02:59:53,439
really important. Um but they need some

4539
02:59:53,439 --> 02:59:54,080
context.

4540
02:59:54,080 --> 02:59:55,840
>> Yeah, I think they're really important.

4541
02:59:55,840 --> 02:59:57,279
Like we would know what those are.

4542
02:59:57,279 --> 02:59:58,880
>> Come on. You don't know what they are.

4543
02:59:58,880 --> 02:59:59,840
>> Yeah, [laughter]

4544
02:59:59,840 --> 03:00:03,040
I know five tons is like a you know

4545
03:00:03,040 --> 03:00:04,720
drop. That's my point is that we need

4546
03:00:04,720 --> 03:00:06,160
some context around it and then there'll

4547
03:00:06,160 --> 03:00:06,560
be

4548
03:00:06,560 --> 03:00:09,040
>> yeah like if you would have said 500 I'd

4549
03:00:09,040 --> 03:00:10,899
been like oh yeah that's right 500 tons

4550
03:00:10,899 --> 03:00:12,399
[laughter] not five tons that makes

4551
03:00:12,399 --> 03:00:12,720
sense

4552
03:00:12,720 --> 03:00:14,800
>> but I do think there sometimes when

4553
03:00:14,800 --> 03:00:16,479
there's a new technology that's low

4554
03:00:16,479 --> 03:00:19,279
emission there's a tendency and I think

4555
03:00:19,279 --> 03:00:22,720
many companies will um in their ambition

4556
03:00:22,720 --> 03:00:25,680
say things like we're zero emission

4557
03:00:25,680 --> 03:00:29,200
>> and while we are very low emission we

4558
03:00:29,200 --> 03:00:31,760
want to be clear that we're very low

4559
03:00:31,760 --> 03:00:34,000
emission town would like the straight

4560
03:00:34,000 --> 03:00:34,399
talk.

4561
03:00:34,399 --> 03:00:38,950
>> Yep. Yep.

4562
03:00:38,960 --> 03:00:41,680
» Water is um

4563
03:00:41,680 --> 03:00:45,359
uh really important. And um previous

4564
03:00:45,359 --> 03:00:48,080
designs and engineering of data centers

4565
03:00:48,080 --> 03:00:51,200
uh didn't um factor in water

4566
03:00:51,200 --> 03:00:54,240
conservation very well at all, if ever.

4567
03:00:54,240 --> 03:00:58,080
And so the reports that you hear about,

4568
03:00:58,080 --> 03:01:00,080
you know, millions of gallons of water

4569
03:01:00,080 --> 03:01:04,319
wasted, not annually, but weekly and in

4570
03:01:04,319 --> 03:01:06,880
some cases daily, that's that's true.

4571
03:01:06,880 --> 03:01:09,680
That happens and that's that's a

4572
03:01:09,680 --> 03:01:14,080
concern. And so um before valition came

4573
03:01:14,080 --> 03:01:17,920
along, many of the leading uh developers

4574
03:01:17,920 --> 03:01:20,080
of technology began to address this

4575
03:01:20,080 --> 03:01:23,200
issue. some of the major uh system

4576
03:01:23,200 --> 03:01:26,479
developers like Carrier and Train

4577
03:01:26,479 --> 03:01:29,520
uh began to innovate around uh a more

4578
03:01:29,520 --> 03:01:32,000
dynamic solution that would allow data

4579
03:01:32,000 --> 03:01:34,880
centers to run on what is a closed loop

4580
03:01:34,880 --> 03:01:37,439
system. They're more expensive and so

4581
03:01:37,439 --> 03:01:40,319
developers need to make a decision um

4582
03:01:40,319 --> 03:01:44,160
about investing more in um a better

4583
03:01:44,160 --> 03:01:46,800
technology and that's absolutely um our

4584
03:01:46,800 --> 03:01:50,560
decision. So we utilize um a closed loop

4585
03:01:50,560 --> 03:01:52,640
system that effectively allows us to

4586
03:01:52,640 --> 03:01:57,680
utilize uh one fill in the system um

4587
03:01:57,680 --> 03:01:59,680
almost in perpetuity and I'll I'll

4588
03:01:59,680 --> 03:02:01,920
address the almost in in just a minute.

4589
03:02:01,920 --> 03:02:05,439
Um but to give you context um when we

4590
03:02:05,439 --> 03:02:07,840
fill this system which will provide

4591
03:02:07,840 --> 03:02:11,200
enough uh power compute for up to 250

4592
03:02:11,200 --> 03:02:12,880
megawws

4593
03:02:12,880 --> 03:02:14,800
um which is you know again maybe a

4594
03:02:14,800 --> 03:02:16,479
quarter of what you would consider a

4595
03:02:16,479 --> 03:02:18,560
typical hyper hypers scale but still a

4596
03:02:18,560 --> 03:02:22,479
large output. This is about equal to two

4597
03:02:22,479 --> 03:02:24,479
Utah households

4598
03:02:24,479 --> 03:02:27,200
for one year.

4599
03:02:27,200 --> 03:02:30,399
In addition, there is an annual usage of

4600
03:02:30,399 --> 03:02:32,720
250,000

4601
03:02:32,720 --> 03:02:35,439
gallons, which is about one household

4602
03:02:35,439 --> 03:02:38,000
and that is used in parts of

4603
03:02:38,000 --> 03:02:39,520
humidification

4604
03:02:39,520 --> 03:02:44,080
in the system. Um but in the scheme of

4605
03:02:44,080 --> 03:02:47,840
things uh this is a much lower usage

4606
03:02:47,840 --> 03:02:52,240
than what is often discussed in media or

4607
03:02:52,240 --> 03:02:55,600
uh whereas reference to legacy systems

4608
03:02:55,600 --> 03:02:59,439
that are extremely wasteful. This is a

4609
03:02:59,439 --> 03:03:03,439
modern system that um is not wasteful at

4610
03:03:03,439 --> 03:03:06,800
all. So, we will not be requesting any

4611
03:03:06,800 --> 03:03:09,840
additional water rights in any way from

4612
03:03:09,840 --> 03:03:13,439
the city. And as a comparison,

4613
03:03:13,439 --> 03:03:17,120
um if we used old technology, a system

4614
03:03:17,120 --> 03:03:21,520
like this would utilize over 650 million

4615
03:03:21,520 --> 03:03:25,359
gallons a year or 3,400

4616
03:03:25,359 --> 03:03:28,160
households. just to give a comparison

4617
03:03:28,160 --> 03:03:31,200
about how starkly efficient this is

4618
03:03:31,200 --> 03:03:33,920
compared to previous data center

4619
03:03:33,920 --> 03:03:37,510
designs.

4620
03:03:37,520 --> 03:03:39,760
Wait, don't don't change. On the infill

4621
03:03:39,760 --> 03:03:43,920
side, um you infill it once, use it for

4622
03:03:43,920 --> 03:03:46,080
how long?

4623
03:03:46,080 --> 03:03:50,399
>> So, the system is designed um as one

4624
03:03:50,399 --> 03:03:52,800
fill, but here's some of the detail

4625
03:03:52,800 --> 03:03:57,200
around where there may be a refill. Um

4626
03:03:57,200 --> 03:04:02,720
we monitor the water daily. Um there is

4627
03:04:02,720 --> 03:04:04,960
uh the possibility that around year

4628
03:04:04,960 --> 03:04:10,319
seven or eight the glycol in the water

4629
03:04:10,319 --> 03:04:13,840
um it can change its percentage to a

4630
03:04:13,840 --> 03:04:15,680
point that if it dips below a certain

4631
03:04:15,680 --> 03:04:19,040
percentage we are then in exposure for

4632
03:04:19,040 --> 03:04:21,600
corrosion within our piping and with our

4633
03:04:21,600 --> 03:04:23,920
within our direct chip cooling system.

4634
03:04:23,920 --> 03:04:27,760
So if we at year seven or eight see an

4635
03:04:27,760 --> 03:04:29,840
indication that the glycol level is

4636
03:04:29,840 --> 03:04:31,920
changing in some way then there is a

4637
03:04:31,920 --> 03:04:36,080
mechanism to replace or test or improve

4638
03:04:36,080 --> 03:04:39,040
the water in the system. And the

4639
03:04:39,040 --> 03:04:41,520
engineering is such that we're able to

4640
03:04:41,520 --> 03:04:44,560
shut down portions of the cooling so

4641
03:04:44,560 --> 03:04:47,200
that we can extract up to 40,000 gallons

4642
03:04:47,200 --> 03:04:52,640
at a time through uh a pump system into

4643
03:04:52,640 --> 03:04:55,680
um what are sort of like frack uh

4644
03:04:55,680 --> 03:04:58,080
tankers. So, we're able to pull the

4645
03:04:58,080 --> 03:05:00,560
system uh efficiently, the water

4646
03:05:00,560 --> 03:05:04,000
efficiently into a mobile unit that

4647
03:05:04,000 --> 03:05:07,040
allows us to then test the water uh

4648
03:05:07,040 --> 03:05:10,880
potentially increase the ratio of glycol

4649
03:05:10,880 --> 03:05:15,920
and reuse uh that flushing process. So,

4650
03:05:15,920 --> 03:05:18,479
that is a standard upkeep around seven

4651
03:05:18,479 --> 03:05:21,920
or eight years. Extremely efficient and

4652
03:05:21,920 --> 03:05:25,920
low risk. Um the other potential

4653
03:05:25,920 --> 03:05:29,920
scenarios for um you know a concern with

4654
03:05:29,920 --> 03:05:32,960
the water use um it is not impossible to

4655
03:05:32,960 --> 03:05:40,800
get uh some micro um contaminants if we ever indicated

4656
03:05:40,800 --> 03:05:43,920
that we would employ the same type of

4657
03:05:43,920 --> 03:05:46,160
system. In a worst case scenario for us,

4658
03:05:46,160 --> 03:05:48,960
because of expense, if there was any

4659
03:05:48,960 --> 03:05:51,600
kind of microbe in a system like that,

4660
03:05:51,600 --> 03:05:54,319
we could potentially be facing having to

4661
03:05:54,319 --> 03:05:57,439
refill the system, and it's not cheap to

4662
03:05:57,439 --> 03:06:00,479
do that. So, we're constantly monitoring

4663
03:06:00,479 --> 03:06:04,080
water quality, and um the system is

4664
03:06:04,080 --> 03:06:06,720
designed to extract that water, treat

4665
03:06:06,720 --> 03:06:10,080
the water, replace the water. Um,

4666
03:06:10,080 --> 03:06:12,240
>> sorry Jeff. As you're describing that,

4667
03:06:12,240 --> 03:06:13,920
you extract the water, you treat the

4668
03:06:13,920 --> 03:06:16,720
water, you put that same water back into

4669
03:06:16,720 --> 03:06:17,359
the system.

4670
03:06:17,359 --> 03:06:19,359
>> Yes, potentially. So, if we're just

4671
03:06:19,359 --> 03:06:22,640
having to in if the water is still uh no

4672
03:06:22,640 --> 03:06:24,319
problem to continue use, but we for

4673
03:06:24,319 --> 03:06:26,240
example have to increase the ratio of

4674
03:06:26,240 --> 03:06:28,800
glycol, that would be a scenario where

4675
03:06:28,800 --> 03:06:30,800
we can pump it back into the system.

4676
03:06:30,800 --> 03:06:33,120
>> There ever a scenario where you have to

4677
03:06:33,120 --> 03:06:36,479
drain it and replace it entirely? And if

4678
03:06:36,479 --> 03:06:37,840
that's the case, what do you do with the

4679
03:06:37,840 --> 03:06:39,760
water that gets drained?

4680
03:06:39,760 --> 03:06:43,040
>> The wa So if we had a scenario where we

4681
03:06:43,040 --> 03:06:45,600
had a bacterial problem,

4682
03:06:45,600 --> 03:06:49,840
>> so we would extract it uh into tankers,

4683
03:06:49,840 --> 03:06:52,880
those tankers then go through a process

4684
03:06:52,880 --> 03:06:56,479
where uh they're able to required to

4685
03:06:56,479 --> 03:07:00,399
treat that water so that is um able to

4686
03:07:00,399 --> 03:07:04,080
be taken to waste to a waste facility.

4687
03:07:04,080 --> 03:07:05,200
So there's

4688
03:07:05,200 --> 03:07:06,720
>> treated before disposal.

4689
03:07:06,720 --> 03:07:09,120
>> Before disposal. Yeah. So there's a a

4690
03:07:09,120 --> 03:07:11,120
process in place that that water has to

4691
03:07:11,120 --> 03:07:12,800
be treated in a worst case scenario like

4692
03:07:12,800 --> 03:07:16,880
this so that it can be disposed of in an

4693
03:07:16,880 --> 03:07:19,680
authorized waste facility. This is never

4694
03:07:19,680 --> 03:07:22,080
a scenario where something would be, you

4695
03:07:22,080 --> 03:07:24,880
know, going down a local drain ever.

4696
03:07:24,880 --> 03:07:26,160
>> Where does [snorts] that treatment take

4697
03:07:26,160 --> 03:07:27,359
place

4698
03:07:27,359 --> 03:07:29,680
>> in Utah? I don't know. I haven't looked

4699
03:07:29,680 --> 03:07:32,399
into that. Go ahead.

4700
03:07:32,399 --> 03:07:34,080
>> The the treatment in the truck or the

4701
03:07:34,080 --> 03:07:34,960
final treatment?

4702
03:07:34,960 --> 03:07:37,680
>> No, the treat. So, you determine there's

4703
03:07:37,680 --> 03:07:39,279
bacteria, there's an issue with the

4704
03:07:39,279 --> 03:07:41,520
water, it can't go back into the system.

4705
03:07:41,520 --> 03:07:43,520
So, you load up the tankers.

4706
03:07:43,520 --> 03:07:45,200
>> It then needs to go somewhere to be

4707
03:07:45,200 --> 03:07:47,040
treated before it can be disposed of

4708
03:07:47,040 --> 03:07:49,920
into a treatment wastewater like our

4709
03:07:49,920 --> 03:07:51,760
wastewater treatment plant. They can't

4710
03:07:51,760 --> 03:07:52,399
just

4711
03:07:52,399 --> 03:07:54,399
>> can't just dump it down the drain. It's

4712
03:07:54,399 --> 03:07:55,439
got to go somewhere.

4713
03:07:55,439 --> 03:07:58,000
>> No, it goes to a you know a registered

4714
03:07:58,000 --> 03:07:59,359
type of facility. I don't know where the

4715
03:07:59,359 --> 03:08:00,720
nearest one is. I'm sure we could find

4716
03:08:00,720 --> 03:08:03,279
out quickly. But that that is the

4717
03:08:03,279 --> 03:08:06,640
process if we had uh what would be a

4718
03:08:06,640 --> 03:08:09,920
very rare and um you know critical

4719
03:08:09,920 --> 03:08:14,479
situation. Um the other would be you

4720
03:08:14,479 --> 03:08:17,439
know major force majour

4721
03:08:17,439 --> 03:08:19,040
um event

4722
03:08:19,040 --> 03:08:20,080
>> earthquake or something

4723
03:08:20,080 --> 03:08:21,520
>> that was happening you know that that

4724
03:08:21,520 --> 03:08:24,800
maybe you know severed a major plumbing

4725
03:08:24,800 --> 03:08:26,880
line within the facility. But even in

4726
03:08:26,880 --> 03:08:29,600
that case, we're able to close off

4727
03:08:29,600 --> 03:08:32,160
valves so that the entire facility is

4728
03:08:32,160 --> 03:08:35,439
not um depleted.

4729
03:08:35,439 --> 03:08:37,279
>> Yeah. So worst case scenario with

4730
03:08:37,279 --> 03:08:40,399
bacteria, if you get it in the water at

4731
03:08:40,399 --> 03:08:42,240
all, does that mean the entire water is

4732
03:08:42,240 --> 03:08:44,000
contaminated?

4733
03:08:44,000 --> 03:08:46,880
>> I would think uh that's probably the

4734
03:08:46,880 --> 03:08:48,640
case. And bacteria we're talking about

4735
03:08:48,640 --> 03:08:50,640
is not we're talking about bacteria that

4736
03:08:50,640 --> 03:08:53,040
would be uh detrimental to the

4737
03:08:53,040 --> 03:08:53,840
equipment,

4738
03:08:53,840 --> 03:08:56,319
>> right? It doesn't mean that it is, you

4739
03:08:56,319 --> 03:08:58,319
know, highly

4740
03:08:58,319 --> 03:09:00,319
uh problematic for a community. We're

4741
03:09:00,319 --> 03:09:02,240
still not going to drop it into a drain.

4742
03:09:02,240 --> 03:09:03,840
We're still going to treat it the same

4743
03:09:03,840 --> 03:09:04,479
way.

4744
03:09:04,479 --> 03:09:06,640
>> So, how how quickly if that if that

4745
03:09:06,640 --> 03:09:08,319
happens and occurs? Obviously, you guys

4746
03:09:08,319 --> 03:09:10,399
can't be down

4747
03:09:10,399 --> 03:09:12,479
long. You have to drain it. How quickly

4748
03:09:12,479 --> 03:09:14,479
can you refill it to be back back in

4749
03:09:14,479 --> 03:09:15,920
business? Because you got to keep those

4750
03:09:15,920 --> 03:09:16,800
cool.

4751
03:09:16,800 --> 03:09:18,880
>> Yeah. So, we we in our agreement with

4752
03:09:18,880 --> 03:09:21,439
our clients, we have some pretty

4753
03:09:21,439 --> 03:09:23,279
punitive

4754
03:09:23,279 --> 03:09:28,240
um penalties if if we're down. Um so,

4755
03:09:28,240 --> 03:09:30,240
what we're talking about right now is

4756
03:09:30,240 --> 03:09:33,439
really a very extreme circumstance that

4757
03:09:33,439 --> 03:09:37,120
we hope that we never, you know, uh run

4758
03:09:37,120 --> 03:09:41,439
into. But that scenario would be a big

4759
03:09:41,439 --> 03:09:43,760
penalty for us. It wouldn't have an

4760
03:09:43,760 --> 03:09:46,560
impact on the community at large. we

4761
03:09:46,560 --> 03:09:48,880
would be required to drain as quickly as

4762
03:09:48,880 --> 03:09:52,240
possible and to refill as quickly as

4763
03:09:52,240 --> 03:09:56,560
possible. So if that was two days um

4764
03:09:56,560 --> 03:09:59,439
we're kind of you know okay if it

4765
03:09:59,439 --> 03:10:01,600
trickles into four and five days we're

4766
03:10:01,600 --> 03:10:03,439
you know it costs the company millions

4767
03:10:03,439 --> 03:10:04,560
of dollars in penalties.

4768
03:10:04,560 --> 03:10:06,960
>> Would you have to shut down like turn

4769
03:10:06,960 --> 03:10:09,439
off the servers shut down like the

4770
03:10:09,439 --> 03:10:11,040
draining process does that mean power

4771
03:10:11,040 --> 03:10:11,680
goes off

4772
03:10:11,680 --> 03:10:13,840
>> be down? The facility would be down.

4773
03:10:13,840 --> 03:10:15,840
Yeah, the facility would be down because

4774
03:10:15,840 --> 03:10:18,399
requires direct to chip cooling. Um it's

4775
03:10:18,399 --> 03:10:21,120
also something that we can plan for. Um

4776
03:10:21,120 --> 03:10:25,359
so you know any kind of a bacterial

4777
03:10:25,359 --> 03:10:27,040
um

4778
03:10:27,040 --> 03:10:30,880
uh event is going to be something that

4779
03:10:30,880 --> 03:10:33,680
is likely coming from some type of a

4780
03:10:33,680 --> 03:10:37,120
seal, possibly um an oil or something

4781
03:10:37,120 --> 03:10:40,399
that gets in and and we would see that

4782
03:10:40,399 --> 03:10:42,399
pretty immediately. and seeing it

4783
03:10:42,399 --> 03:10:44,080
immediately does not mean we have to

4784
03:10:44,080 --> 03:10:46,080
shut down the system. It just means that

4785
03:10:46,080 --> 03:10:49,200
our equipment is

4786
03:10:49,200 --> 03:10:51,600
in jeopardy of corrosion. And so we'll

4787
03:10:51,600 --> 03:10:56,240
want to plan for the exchange of water

4788
03:10:56,240 --> 03:10:58,560
rapidly.

4789
03:10:58,560 --> 03:11:01,600
>> Um operating site up there that's used

4790
03:11:01,600 --> 03:11:04,160
that's doing something. How much water

4791
03:11:04,160 --> 03:11:06,240
do you think they're using?

4792
03:11:06,240 --> 03:11:07,279
>> The what site?

4793
03:11:07,279 --> 03:11:10,240
>> Current site. The current building. Oh.

4794
03:11:10,240 --> 03:11:13,920
Uh, well, the current building is,

4795
03:11:13,920 --> 03:11:17,439
uh, not totally occupied right now and

4796
03:11:17,439 --> 03:11:20,800
it's pretty light. They're they're um

4797
03:11:20,800 --> 03:11:23,439
primarily distribution. So, I don't know

4798
03:11:23,439 --> 03:11:24,880
the current amount they're using, but

4799
03:11:24,880 --> 03:11:26,960
it's not it's not heavy usage.

4800
03:11:26,960 --> 03:11:29,520
>> It's um, for reference, we have looked

4801
03:11:29,520 --> 03:11:33,040
at it. It's it's probably

4802
03:11:33,040 --> 03:11:35,680
in the 5 million gallon range annually.

4803
03:11:35,680 --> 03:11:37,920
So what they're talking about, even

4804
03:11:37,920 --> 03:11:43,120
though it's not fully occupied, it's a significant fraction of what

4805
03:11:43,120 --> 03:11:45,600
they're currently using up there today.

4806
03:11:45,600 --> 03:11:47,680
>> Current current building current sites

4807
03:11:47,680 --> 03:11:48,160
using

4808
03:11:48,160 --> 03:11:50,000
>> using more than what they're projecting.

4809
03:11:50,000 --> 03:11:52,880
>> Yeah. Probably I don't know 250 to 500.

4810
03:11:52,880 --> 03:11:54,960
I mean, even if they had 500,000 every

4811
03:11:54,960 --> 03:11:58,080
year, that's 10 times. So they're 10,

4812
03:11:58,080 --> 03:12:00,640
you know, so they're at 20th

4813
03:12:00,640 --> 03:12:02,880
>> current. Um, so I want to go through a

4814
03:12:02,880 --> 03:12:05,120
couple more slides and then then we'll

4815
03:12:05,120 --> 03:12:06,880
continue the conversation. We can

4816
03:12:06,880 --> 03:12:11,840
certainly come back uh to the topic of water. I think what where I would

4817
03:12:11,840 --> 03:12:15,040
summarize here is that uh the water use

4818
03:12:15,040 --> 03:12:21,120
is actually extremely low. Um the risk

4819
03:12:21,120 --> 03:12:22,800
of

4820
03:12:22,800 --> 03:12:27,760
spilling into the community is um

4821
03:12:27,760 --> 03:12:31,120
extremely low. and the ability to

4822
03:12:31,120 --> 03:12:35,600
service our needs to recycle or refill

4823
03:12:35,600 --> 03:12:45,439
or refurbish that water supply um is a a proven process while expensive to us

4824
03:12:45,439 --> 03:12:51,110
is not a threat to the community.

4825
03:12:51,120 --> 03:12:54,560
The building where we um

4826
03:12:54,560 --> 03:12:58,240
propose to build into this is

4827
03:12:58,240 --> 03:13:01,040
the uh what is known as the finger hut

4828
03:13:01,040 --> 03:13:03,120
building. It's a million square feet uh

4829
03:13:03,120 --> 03:13:07,040
just near the wind power at the mouth of

4830
03:13:07,040 --> 03:13:08,800
the canyon.

4831
03:13:08,800 --> 03:13:14,160
Um it is uh a fairly ideal scenario for

4832
03:13:14,160 --> 03:13:16,399
repurpose of something like this in that

4833
03:13:16,399 --> 03:13:20,479
it is um on a large plot of land. It's

4834
03:13:20,479 --> 03:13:23,680
not close to a series of other uh

4835
03:13:23,680 --> 03:13:25,680
industrial buildings currently. It is

4836
03:13:25,680 --> 03:13:28,800
not near uh

4837
03:13:28,800 --> 03:13:31,840
many residences and we will we'll talk

4838
03:13:31,840 --> 03:13:35,439
about that in just a moment. Um but it's

4839
03:13:35,439 --> 03:13:38,399
existing industrial

4840
03:13:38,399 --> 03:13:40,720
And couple things I think are important

4841
03:13:40,720 --> 03:13:45,279
to consider is that um

4842
03:13:45,279 --> 03:13:48,960
it's its ideal use as it's currently

4843
03:13:48,960 --> 03:13:51,840
built is for distribution

4844
03:13:51,840 --> 03:13:55,760
36 loading bays. Um we are proposing to

4845
03:13:55,760 --> 03:13:59,520
purchase this building and we do have uh

4846
03:13:59,520 --> 03:14:00,800
information that there is another

4847
03:14:00,800 --> 03:14:02,720
company right now who has put in another

4848
03:14:02,720 --> 03:14:06,319
bid to purchase the building as well.

4849
03:14:06,319 --> 03:14:09,920
Um, in its current use, this building

4850
03:14:09,920 --> 03:14:14,399
would see over 3,500 diesel trucks a

4851
03:14:14,399 --> 03:14:18,239
month moving through uh through Spanish

4852
03:14:18,239 --> 03:14:20,800
Fork. Um,

4853
03:14:20,800 --> 03:14:25,120
720 metric tons of CO2.

4854
03:14:25,120 --> 03:14:27,920
Um, compared to what at our facility

4855
03:14:27,920 --> 03:14:32,960
would be a few dozen cars a day. Um

4856
03:14:32,960 --> 03:14:35,120
ultimately this facility will have see

4857
03:14:35,120 --> 03:14:38,479
anywhere from 100 to 200 employees. Uh

4858
03:14:38,479 --> 03:14:40,720
there's no loading, there's no

4859
03:14:40,720 --> 03:14:42,319
distribution.

4860
03:14:42,319 --> 03:14:46,960
Um and so we do believe genuinely that

4861
03:14:46,960 --> 03:14:50,560
for the city and the surrounding area

4862
03:14:50,560 --> 03:14:54,319
um while data centers have been vilified

4863
03:14:54,319 --> 03:14:58,640
a bit in uh you know previous design and

4864
03:14:58,640 --> 03:15:00,960
certain inefficiencies,

4865
03:15:00,960 --> 03:15:05,120
this facility with this proposed design

4866
03:15:05,120 --> 03:15:08,479
um is truly a net positive and

4867
03:15:08,479 --> 03:15:11,120
especially when compared to how the

4868
03:15:11,120 --> 03:15:15,439
building would likely be used uh by any

4869
03:15:15,439 --> 03:15:20,399
other owner or tenant compared to um

4870
03:15:20,399 --> 03:15:23,840
compared to valition.

4871
03:15:23,840 --> 03:15:26,640
And so this is a a look at how this uh

4872
03:15:26,640 --> 03:15:30,960
will begin to build out um same

4873
03:15:30,960 --> 03:15:37,040
building, new purpose and um a extremely

4874
03:15:37,040 --> 03:15:41,439
um meaningful economic impact where this

4875
03:15:41,439 --> 03:15:44,640
building um as an extreme outlier to

4876
03:15:44,640 --> 03:15:47,120
traditional industry will house over

4877
03:15:47,120 --> 03:15:51,040
four billion dollars of um power

4878
03:15:51,040 --> 03:15:53,840
generation equipment, electrical

4879
03:15:53,840 --> 03:15:59,279
equipment and compute equipment in this

4880
03:15:59,279 --> 03:16:04,070
facility.

4881
03:16:04,080 --> 03:16:05,920
So, in the end, we're looking at a

4882
03:16:05,920 --> 03:16:08,720
situation where we have uh

4883
03:16:08,720 --> 03:16:11,600
conversational level noise on the

4884
03:16:11,600 --> 03:16:13,200
facility

4885
03:16:13,200 --> 03:16:16,640
under 65 dBA,

4886
03:16:16,640 --> 03:16:21,680
no added light pollution,

4887
03:16:21,680 --> 03:16:25,040
minimal traffic on site, and no

4888
03:16:25,040 --> 03:16:29,600
requested change to the skyline or

4889
03:16:29,600 --> 03:16:32,800
interior or exterior.

4890
03:16:32,800 --> 03:16:37,269
uh fit.

4891
03:16:37,279 --> 03:16:46,160
We make no request of the city for any tax incentive

4892
03:16:46,160 --> 03:16:49,200
um of of any kind. We're making no

4893
03:16:49,200 --> 03:16:51,920
request of the state for any [snorts]

4894
03:16:51,920 --> 03:16:53,840
tax incentive

4895
03:16:53,840 --> 03:16:56,800
uh of any kind. So we we leave this as

4896
03:16:56,800 --> 03:17:02,080
this very vanilla tax vehicle that will

4897
03:17:02,080 --> 03:17:05,359
generate um a large amount of tax

4898
03:17:05,359 --> 03:17:08,080
revenue that will be distributed in its

4899
03:17:08,080 --> 03:17:11,279
normal normal flow of tax distribution

4900
03:17:11,279 --> 03:17:12,880
through the city and through the school

4901
03:17:12,880 --> 03:17:14,720
district.

4902
03:17:14,720 --> 03:17:17,359
um

4903
03:17:17,359 --> 03:17:20,080
allowing a community to have access to

4904
03:17:20,080 --> 03:17:22,720
capital to grow, expand, develop,

4905
03:17:22,720 --> 03:17:25,279
especially a city like Spanish Fork that

4906
03:17:25,279 --> 03:17:28,880
is attractive and has plans to to

4907
03:17:28,880 --> 03:17:34,160
expand. Um we think this is a

4908
03:17:34,160 --> 03:17:36,000
substantially

4909
03:17:36,000 --> 03:17:39,040
um impactful

4910
03:17:39,040 --> 03:17:43,279
use of of funds. But in addition to that

4911
03:17:43,279 --> 03:17:46,960
um we really have a genuine desire to um

4912
03:17:46,960 --> 03:17:49,920
have our own direct impact as well. We

4913
03:17:49,920 --> 03:17:51,920
will allocate a portion of our own

4914
03:17:51,920 --> 03:17:54,640
annual income and our client's annual

4915
03:17:54,640 --> 03:17:58,319
income to uh create additional direct

4916
03:17:58,319 --> 03:17:59,920
contributions

4917
03:17:59,920 --> 03:18:02,399
um in excess of $500,000 a year to the

4918
03:18:02,399 --> 03:18:06,560
city and also host um industry training

4919
03:18:06,560 --> 03:18:09,200
um for professionals

4920
03:18:09,200 --> 03:18:11,520
um paid apprenticeships

4921
03:18:11,520 --> 03:18:16,479
and also uh taking education into

4922
03:18:16,479 --> 03:18:19,120
um the high school and junior college

4923
03:18:19,120 --> 03:18:23,520
level as these young folks consider how

4924
03:18:23,520 --> 03:18:28,080
to adapt and to take advantage of new uh

4925
03:18:28,080 --> 03:18:31,279
job opportunities in the IT industry at

4926
03:18:31,279 --> 03:18:34,399
large or specifically in the data center

4927
03:18:34,399 --> 03:18:37,600
industry. Um our leadership has a long

4928
03:18:37,600 --> 03:18:39,359
history in learning and development

4929
03:18:39,359 --> 03:18:42,319
throughout the US. Uh so it's really

4930
03:18:42,319 --> 03:18:44,160
something that's genuinely part of our

4931
03:18:44,160 --> 03:18:46,720
DNA as we begin to build out learning

4932
03:18:46,720 --> 03:18:48,160
and development programs that could

4933
03:18:48,160 --> 03:18:52,000
benefit professionals and students here.

4934
03:18:52,000 --> 03:18:55,040
And finally, uh we will be the first of

4935
03:18:55,040 --> 03:18:58,880
its kind in the country uh as a

4936
03:18:58,880 --> 03:19:02,960
developer to proactively engage in a

4937
03:19:02,960 --> 03:19:04,720
development agreement that holds us

4938
03:19:04,720 --> 03:19:07,920
accountable to all of the initiatives

4939
03:19:07,920 --> 03:19:12,720
that we've outlined. um a water use cap.

4940
03:19:12,720 --> 03:19:18,000
Uh no grid connection request ever. Um

4941
03:19:18,000 --> 03:19:20,319
decommissioning plans that make it clear

4942
03:19:20,319 --> 03:19:23,200
as the property owner if things were to

4943
03:19:23,200 --> 03:19:26,880
um implode economically. Uh that allows

4944
03:19:26,880 --> 03:19:30,000
us to have a clear path to decommission.

4945
03:19:30,000 --> 03:19:33,520
Um enforcable noise limits, no diesel

4946
03:19:33,520 --> 03:19:37,040
covenant. um and annual public reporting

4947
03:19:37,040 --> 03:19:40,000
on on all of these development covenants

4948
03:19:40,000 --> 03:19:42,960
that we uh wish to make with with the

4949
03:19:42,960 --> 03:19:45,920
city.

4950
03:19:45,920 --> 03:19:47,680
>> What? Real quick, Jeff, sorry. While

4951
03:19:47,680 --> 03:19:50,000
you're there, what does annual public

4952
03:19:50,000 --> 03:19:53,359
reporting look like to you?

4953
03:19:53,359 --> 03:19:56,960
I think it looks like um an annual

4954
03:19:56,960 --> 03:20:00,000
report that would align with the terms

4955
03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:03,680
of the development agreement that gives

4956
03:20:03,680 --> 03:20:06,800
empiric empir uh empirical data that

4957
03:20:06,800 --> 03:20:09,200
indicates that this was our actual use

4958
03:20:09,200 --> 03:20:11,439
in these categories for example but I

4959
03:20:11,439 --> 03:20:13,279
don't know

4960
03:20:13,279 --> 03:20:14,880
the full structure of that yet but

4961
03:20:14,880 --> 03:20:16,399
that's that's how I see it and I think

4962
03:20:16,399 --> 03:20:19,439
that we would work in concert with uh

4963
03:20:19,439 --> 03:20:22,080
the city legal to develop

4964
03:20:22,080 --> 03:20:24,880
that process.

4965
03:20:24,880 --> 03:20:26,479
>> Jeeoff, I have a question on a side

4966
03:20:26,479 --> 03:20:28,239
note. I don't think it was covered, so

4967
03:20:28,239 --> 03:20:29,600
forgive me if it was, and I know we

4968
03:20:29,600 --> 03:20:31,200
talked about it in our previous meeting,

4969
03:20:31,200 --> 03:20:32,800
but I think our residents would want to

4970
03:20:32,800 --> 03:20:36,640
ask or know whose data are you housing.

4971
03:20:36,640 --> 03:20:39,359
Is it Spanish for residents? Is it the

4972
03:20:39,359 --> 03:20:41,200
American people? Whose data

4973
03:20:41,200 --> 03:20:41,840
>> Yeah.

4974
03:20:41,840 --> 03:20:43,279
>> are you going to have there?

4975
03:20:43,279 --> 03:20:46,239
>> Yeah, that's a great question. So, um,

4976
03:20:46,239 --> 03:20:49,279
the client, uh, that there are a couple

4977
03:20:49,279 --> 03:20:52,880
clients that will likely

4978
03:20:52,880 --> 03:20:58,800
um rent space in in this building. Um

4979
03:20:58,800 --> 03:21:01,680
the names are not well known because

4980
03:21:01,680 --> 03:21:03,279
they're private companies. So for

4981
03:21:03,279 --> 03:21:05,760
example, one of them for reference is

4982
03:21:05,760 --> 03:21:07,840
called Ncale.

4983
03:21:07,840 --> 03:21:10,000
The letter N and the word scale attached

4984
03:21:10,000 --> 03:21:14,399
to it. They provide a software platform

4985
03:21:14,399 --> 03:21:18,000
that does the actual work of uh the

4986
03:21:18,000 --> 03:21:22,479
computer modeling and thinking through

4987
03:21:22,479 --> 03:21:25,760
answers to queries or other uses of AI

4988
03:21:25,760 --> 03:21:32,080
as it comes into these servers. Um

4989
03:21:32,080 --> 03:21:34,640
the additional tenant behind Nscale

4990
03:21:34,640 --> 03:21:36,640
could be a variety of companies, brands

4991
03:21:36,640 --> 03:21:39,040
that we all know well. For example,

4992
03:21:39,040 --> 03:21:42,160
Nvidia could run chips in the building.

4993
03:21:42,160 --> 03:21:44,880
Meta could run chips in the building.

4994
03:21:44,880 --> 03:21:48,560
Google could run chips in the building.

4995
03:21:48,560 --> 03:21:52,479
And those queries uh can be hitting the

4996
03:21:52,479 --> 03:21:54,800
building from as close as Spanish Fork.

4997
03:21:54,800 --> 03:21:57,600
Um and they could be coming up. They

4998
03:21:57,600 --> 03:21:59,279
could be coming from Salt Lake. they

4999
03:21:59,279 --> 03:22:01,600
could be coming from but they will they

5000
03:22:01,600 --> 03:22:06,640
will pull from they they want uh queries

5001
03:22:06,640 --> 03:22:09,359
hitting the building from as close as

5002
03:22:09,359 --> 03:22:11,680
possible that's called inference for

5003
03:22:11,680 --> 03:22:16,000
speed. So um certainly local queries

5004
03:22:16,000 --> 03:22:19,040
will be routing into that building and

5005
03:22:19,040 --> 03:22:22,640
regional queries uh will be routing into

5006
03:22:22,640 --> 03:22:26,479
that building. Uh we do no work with the

5007
03:22:26,479 --> 03:22:28,399
US government. There have been questions

5008
03:22:28,399 --> 03:22:32,479
about surveillance and we don't allow uh

5009
03:22:32,479 --> 03:22:35,120
any inference work in our facility that

5010
03:22:35,120 --> 03:22:37,279
has anything to do with with government

5011
03:22:37,279 --> 03:22:41,359
work or surveillance including any

5012
03:22:41,359 --> 03:22:43,359
private companies that is in the

5013
03:22:43,359 --> 03:22:45,840
business of surveillance

5014
03:22:45,840 --> 03:22:47,359
um

5015
03:22:47,359 --> 03:22:50,319
will not operate in our facilities.

5016
03:22:50,319 --> 03:22:50,800
>> Thank you.

5017
03:22:50,800 --> 03:22:52,560
>> You talked about the electrical grid how

5018
03:22:52,560 --> 03:22:54,960
you don't tie to that. What about what

5019
03:22:54,960 --> 03:22:58,960
about the internet? What about like

5020
03:22:58,960 --> 03:23:00,800
what does that look like from from your

5021
03:23:00,800 --> 03:23:02,640
company side?

5022
03:23:02,640 --> 03:23:05,279
>> Uh meaning our use of electricity.

5023
03:23:05,279 --> 03:23:08,479
>> No, like networking and and everything

5024
03:23:08,479 --> 03:23:11,040
else. Do you do you with the amount of

5025
03:23:11,040 --> 03:23:12,800
data and everything else going through

5026
03:23:12,800 --> 03:23:13,359
there?

5027
03:23:13,359 --> 03:23:13,760
>> Yeah.

5028
03:23:13,760 --> 03:23:15,600
>> What's that pipeline look like?

5029
03:23:15,600 --> 03:23:18,880
>> Okay. So that's a fiber fiber

5030
03:23:18,880 --> 03:23:22,640
engineering upgrade. So we have um a

5031
03:23:22,640 --> 03:23:27,279
design for multiple entry points of um

5032
03:23:27,279 --> 03:23:29,920
high access fiber that are required to

5033
03:23:29,920 --> 03:23:31,840
be able to move this amount of

5034
03:23:31,840 --> 03:23:32,800
throughput.

5035
03:23:32,800 --> 03:23:33,279
>> Yeah.

5036
03:23:33,279 --> 03:23:35,439
>> Um so

5037
03:23:35,439 --> 03:23:40,880
our power systems also power the

5038
03:23:40,880 --> 03:23:43,920
movement of data and fiber moving. So we

5039
03:23:43,920 --> 03:23:46,319
pay for the upgrade just like we pay for

5040
03:23:46,319 --> 03:23:48,720
additional natural gas to come in. We

5041
03:23:48,720 --> 03:23:52,239
pay for a fiber upgrade coming into the

5042
03:23:52,239 --> 03:23:54,640
building as well to facilitate the

5043
03:23:54,640 --> 03:23:55,840
movement of data.

5044
03:23:55,840 --> 03:23:57,506
>> Okay,

5045
03:23:57,506 --> 03:23:58,239
[snorts]

5046
03:23:58,239 --> 03:23:59,840
>> Jeeoff, one thing that we didn't talk

5047
03:23:59,840 --> 03:24:00,960
about, and I don't think we talked about

5048
03:24:00,960 --> 03:24:05,200
it before, is these power cells and

5049
03:24:05,200 --> 03:24:06,319
these air conditioners, because I'm

5050
03:24:06,319 --> 03:24:07,760
assuming that's what is going to be

5051
03:24:07,760 --> 03:24:11,279
cooling the system. Um, what kind of

5052
03:24:11,279 --> 03:24:13,600
heat offput are those putting into the

5053
03:24:13,600 --> 03:24:15,279
area?

5054
03:24:15,279 --> 03:24:18,080
So um

5055
03:24:18,080 --> 03:24:19,520
our design [clears throat] is

5056
03:24:19,520 --> 03:24:22,319
implementing heat capture.

5057
03:24:22,319 --> 03:24:26,080
So um there are parts of this system

5058
03:24:26,080 --> 03:24:29,600
that are designed to capture heat again

5059
03:24:29,600 --> 03:24:31,439
seeking to be as efficient with all

5060
03:24:31,439 --> 03:24:34,399
parts of this engineering as possible.

5061
03:24:34,399 --> 03:24:37,680
That heat capture um in some cases is is

5062
03:24:37,680 --> 03:24:40,000
in the many hundreds of degrees. and

5063
03:24:40,000 --> 03:24:43,359
we're able to use that uh back into our

5064
03:24:43,359 --> 03:24:46,479
system to create energy to power our own

5065
03:24:46,479 --> 03:24:51,120
cooling systems. So um a large portion

5066
03:24:51,120 --> 03:24:54,239
of the heat will never even meet the

5067
03:24:54,239 --> 03:24:59,040
atmosphere. Um but I think for

5068
03:24:59,040 --> 03:25:02,399
um a broader view of overall heat coming

5069
03:25:02,399 --> 03:25:04,960
off the system, we can come back to you

5070
03:25:04,960 --> 03:25:09,040
with with that amount. But again uh in

5071
03:25:09,040 --> 03:25:13,520
the scheme of comparables to engines

5072
03:25:13,520 --> 03:25:15,520
um compressors

5073
03:25:15,520 --> 03:25:17,120
turbines

5074
03:25:17,120 --> 03:25:21,439
um the fuel cell uh throws off very

5075
03:25:21,439 --> 03:25:25,200
modest amount of heat.

5076
03:25:25,200 --> 03:25:26,160
>> You said you'd come back with that

5077
03:25:26,160 --> 03:25:27,600
number. Is that what you said? Sorry.

5078
03:25:27,600 --> 03:25:28,880
>> Yeah.

5079
03:25:28,880 --> 03:25:31,040
>> Jeff, what's Valition's relationship

5080
03:25:31,040 --> 03:25:32,880
with Bloom? Do you lease their

5081
03:25:32,880 --> 03:25:34,239
equipment? Do you purchase their

5082
03:25:34,239 --> 03:25:35,600
equipment?

5083
03:25:35,600 --> 03:25:37,359
Yeah, we're really just a customer. We

5084
03:25:37,359 --> 03:25:38,319
purchase the equipment.

5085
03:25:38,319 --> 03:25:39,120
>> You purchase it.

5086
03:25:39,120 --> 03:25:42,160
>> They have leasing scenarios. Uh for us,

5087
03:25:42,160 --> 03:25:44,399
it makes most sense to own it as our own

5088
03:25:44,399 --> 03:25:47,600
capital equipment and also enter into a

5089
03:25:47,600 --> 03:25:50,000
long-term service agreement with Bloom.

5090
03:25:50,000 --> 03:25:52,239
Um one of the nice things about Bloom is

5091
03:25:52,239 --> 03:25:57,279
that uh you're able to uh service a

5092
03:25:57,279 --> 03:25:59,840
singular unit without having anything

5093
03:25:59,840 --> 03:26:05,439
else go down. So um part of our

5094
03:26:05,439 --> 03:26:08,160
plan with them is that in a five, six or

5095
03:26:08,160 --> 03:26:11,120
sevenyear period when their technology

5096
03:26:11,120 --> 03:26:13,439
is time to be upgraded, we are paying

5097
03:26:13,439 --> 03:26:16,080
for that in advance monthly so that when

5098
03:26:16,080 --> 03:26:18,640
a new technology is required in we think

5099
03:26:18,640 --> 03:26:21,120
seven to eight years, they will schedule

5100
03:26:21,120 --> 03:26:24,000
what ends up being like a year-long swap

5101
03:26:24,000 --> 03:26:27,279
out and retrofit of that equipment. And

5102
03:26:27,279 --> 03:26:29,680
it's built in such a way that you're

5103
03:26:29,680 --> 03:26:31,760
never jeopardizing your overall power

5104
03:26:31,760 --> 03:26:35,840
output as you upgrade the fuel cell.

5105
03:26:35,840 --> 03:26:40,080
>> Jeff, for a center this size, uh 250

5106
03:26:40,080 --> 03:26:41,840
megawws,

5107
03:26:41,840 --> 03:26:44,080
uh just curious if you could walk us

5108
03:26:44,080 --> 03:26:45,040
through a little bit what would the fuel

5109
03:26:45,040 --> 03:26:46,319
cells would look like double stacked,

5110
03:26:46,319 --> 03:26:48,080
how many the view from Highway 6, you

5111
03:26:48,080 --> 03:26:49,279
know, what's the public's perception

5112
03:26:49,279 --> 03:26:50,880
going to be of that if something like

5113
03:26:50,880 --> 03:26:53,760
this were to go in in this location? And

5114
03:26:53,760 --> 03:26:56,479
then my second question is would be I'm

5115
03:26:56,479 --> 03:26:59,279
sure people would be wondering you know

5116
03:26:59,279 --> 03:27:00,640
being downwind right we have big

5117
03:27:00,640 --> 03:27:03,359
windmills up there and especially those

5118
03:27:03,359 --> 03:27:06,319
who you know who are newer to this idea

5119
03:27:06,319 --> 03:27:08,640
um of a center going in like what could

5120
03:27:08,640 --> 03:27:11,680
potentially be harmful or you know being

5121
03:27:11,680 --> 03:27:12,560
downwind.

5122
03:27:12,560 --> 03:27:13,680
>> Yeah makes sense.

5123
03:27:13,680 --> 03:27:17,359
>> Um from a harm standpoint um we don't

5124
03:27:17,359 --> 03:27:21,200
see any harm in being downwind. Um we

5125
03:27:21,200 --> 03:27:25,840
are designing the facility such that any

5126
03:27:25,840 --> 03:27:29,040
equipment that may be on the louder side

5127
03:27:29,040 --> 03:27:33,279
like cooling equipment um or heat

5128
03:27:33,279 --> 03:27:37,920
producing we're engineering on the far

5129
03:27:37,920 --> 03:27:40,000
farther side the roadside the farther

5130
03:27:40,000 --> 03:27:44,319
side um of the building contemplating

5131
03:27:44,319 --> 03:27:46,960
that there are homes that are going to

5132
03:27:46,960 --> 03:27:50,720
be built on what is the west side of

5133
03:27:50,720 --> 03:27:54,560
this building. So, we're engineering

5134
03:27:54,560 --> 03:27:57,120
uh as if those homes were already in

5135
03:27:57,120 --> 03:28:01,120
place from a st a sound standpoint and

5136
03:28:01,120 --> 03:28:04,160
you know if there was any way that heat

5137
03:28:04,160 --> 03:28:06,000
was moving

5138
03:28:06,000 --> 03:28:09,920
uh towards those homes, but all of our

5139
03:28:09,920 --> 03:28:13,120
um indication and seeing these uh units

5140
03:28:13,120 --> 03:28:17,040
running, you know, up to an acre of fuel

5141
03:28:17,040 --> 03:28:22,239
cell field. Um there's never been any

5142
03:28:22,239 --> 03:28:25,120
um measured

5143
03:28:25,120 --> 03:28:28,560
heat movement that was

5144
03:28:28,560 --> 03:28:30,960
you know tangible while you're standing

5145
03:28:30,960 --> 03:28:37,200
next to next to a system. So um and this

5146
03:28:37,200 --> 03:28:39,439
is work that was done by you know by

5147
03:28:39,439 --> 03:28:43,760
Bloom and major companies like Oracle

5148
03:28:43,760 --> 03:28:46,479
major utilities who have purchased

5149
03:28:46,479 --> 03:28:49,359
gigawatts of this fuel cell and

5150
03:28:49,359 --> 03:28:51,359
installed it in different areas

5151
03:28:51,359 --> 03:28:54,560
throughout the US. Um so this is these

5152
03:28:54,560 --> 03:28:57,359
are studies that really kind of predate

5153
03:28:57,359 --> 03:29:01,359
um our work and it's validated that

5154
03:29:01,359 --> 03:29:04,880
there is no there is no major heat

5155
03:29:04,880 --> 03:29:07,040
impact but I am Jesse going to get

5156
03:29:07,040 --> 03:29:09,279
detail on it for you.

5157
03:29:09,279 --> 03:29:12,239
>> When you say 250 megawatts is that per

5158
03:29:12,239 --> 03:29:14,560
day per year like how how often are you

5159
03:29:14,560 --> 03:29:15,920
producing 250 meg?

5160
03:29:15,920 --> 03:29:19,359
>> That's at peak use. So that means that

5161
03:29:19,359 --> 03:29:22,319
if there was a major

5162
03:29:22,319 --> 03:29:25,600
you know uh

5163
03:29:25,600 --> 03:29:28,000
influx of

5164
03:29:28,000 --> 03:29:31,600
robotic query and all kind that that at

5165
03:29:31,600 --> 03:29:36,720
its max we could power 250 megawws for a

5166
03:29:36,720 --> 03:29:39,600
period of time in the facility. The

5167
03:29:39,600 --> 03:29:42,160
expectation is that day in and day out

5168
03:29:42,160 --> 03:29:44,080
it will be running on an average of

5169
03:29:44,080 --> 03:29:50,870
about 75% of capacity.

5170
03:29:50,880 --> 03:29:53,600
Jeff, can you go back to one of your

5171
03:29:53,600 --> 03:29:55,760
first slides where you asked the

5172
03:29:55,760 --> 03:29:58,640
questions that get asked?

5173
03:29:58,640 --> 03:30:04,710
I think these areas was it one more

5174
03:30:04,720 --> 03:30:05,920
that one.

5175
03:30:05,920 --> 03:30:09,760
>> Anyway, you asked the questions. It's one before the video, wasn't it?

5176
03:30:09,760 --> 03:30:11,680
>> Yeah, I think first

5177
03:30:11,680 --> 03:30:15,040
>> right there. Um just to give you a sense

5178
03:30:15,040 --> 03:30:17,600
of how I am planning to evaluate the

5179
03:30:17,600 --> 03:30:20,000
decision. Um and I think we need to talk

5180
03:30:20,000 --> 03:30:22,160
about what our decision is and where we

5181
03:30:22,160 --> 03:30:24,960
make it. Is it on do we allow the power

5182
03:30:24,960 --> 03:30:28,080
be generated there or do we allow

5183
03:30:28,080 --> 03:30:29,920
the data center to be there as a land

5184
03:30:29,920 --> 03:30:31,520
use? So I think we need to figure that

5185
03:30:31,520 --> 03:30:34,640
out a little bit. However, for me, not

5186
03:30:34,640 --> 03:30:36,000
speaking for the rest of my colleagues,

5187
03:30:36,000 --> 03:30:38,720
these are the questions, right? Um

5188
03:30:38,720 --> 03:30:40,160
electricity you're going to generate on

5189
03:30:40,160 --> 03:30:41,040
site. You're not going to do anything.

5190
03:30:41,040 --> 03:30:42,000
You're not going to touch our grid.

5191
03:30:42,000 --> 03:30:43,120
You're not going to add to or subtract

5192
03:30:43,120 --> 03:30:45,520
from our grid. So, I get that water.

5193
03:30:45,520 --> 03:30:48,239
What I want to see is you've showed the

5194
03:30:48,239 --> 03:30:50,640
numbers what you're going to use, what

5195
03:30:50,640 --> 03:30:52,960
they use today.

5196
03:30:52,960 --> 03:30:57,120
What how big is this site?

5197
03:30:57,120 --> 03:30:58,640
>> The building itself is a million square

5198
03:30:58,640 --> 03:30:58,800
feet.

5199
03:30:58,800 --> 03:31:01,520
>> 1 million square feet on 25 acres.

5200
03:31:01,520 --> 03:31:03,359
>> About 25 acres.

5201
03:31:03,359 --> 03:31:06,880
>> So, if it was R

5202
03:31:06,880 --> 03:31:10,800
>> 112 there would be 60ish homes there.

5203
03:31:10,800 --> 03:31:14,239
Let's just do the math. 25 times roughly

5204
03:31:14,239 --> 03:31:16,880
2.6 homes on an R12.

5205
03:31:16,880 --> 03:31:19,040
>> So yeah, 65 to 70 houses.

5206
03:31:19,040 --> 03:31:21,359
>> What I'm going to do in my calculations,

5207
03:31:21,359 --> 03:31:23,120
I'm going to say, what does it do today?

5208
03:31:23,120 --> 03:31:24,479
What if it was a data center? And what

5209
03:31:24,479 --> 03:31:26,239
if it was homes? Because in my head,

5210
03:31:26,239 --> 03:31:28,080
those are things that the public can

5211
03:31:28,080 --> 03:31:29,920
understand. And I want to answer each

5212
03:31:29,920 --> 03:31:31,200
one of these questions. How much

5213
03:31:31,200 --> 03:31:32,800
electricity, how much water, how much

5214
03:31:32,800 --> 03:31:34,880
noise, and how much air quality is for

5215
03:31:34,880 --> 03:31:36,640
those three scenarios.

5216
03:31:36,640 --> 03:31:38,800
um the information you have provided so

5217
03:31:38,800 --> 03:31:40,720
far

5218
03:31:40,720 --> 03:31:43,840
looks like the least impact from all

5219
03:31:43,840 --> 03:31:48,319
four of those is from your project now

5220
03:31:48,319 --> 03:31:49,600
I think there's going to be some

5221
03:31:49,600 --> 03:31:52,800
skeptics in the world that don't believe

5222
03:31:52,800 --> 03:31:53,760
those numbers

5223
03:31:53,760 --> 03:31:54,399
>> there will be

5224
03:31:54,399 --> 03:31:56,720
>> right um and so I want to be as clear as

5225
03:31:56,720 --> 03:31:59,520
I possibly can about my expectations

5226
03:31:59,520 --> 03:32:01,840
from you you give me those things and I

5227
03:32:01,840 --> 03:32:04,239
think you have in essence given me all

5228
03:32:04,239 --> 03:32:06,960
of them um I that say that is your

5229
03:32:06,960 --> 03:32:08,479
public hearing, put them on the board.

5230
03:32:08,479 --> 03:32:10,640
This is our water consumption. This is

5231
03:32:10,640 --> 03:32:14,000
what what 60 homes would use in a given

5232
03:32:14,000 --> 03:32:16,160
year. It's significantly less what

5233
03:32:16,160 --> 03:32:18,399
you're proposing than 60 residential

5234
03:32:18,399 --> 03:32:19,600
homes. And we wouldn't be having this

5235
03:32:19,600 --> 03:32:23,760
conversation at all about water or heat

5236
03:32:23,760 --> 03:32:28,399
or air or anything if this was a 60 unit

5237
03:32:28,399 --> 03:32:30,800
residential community. We'd want to know

5238
03:32:30,800 --> 03:32:33,200
what the what it looked like and and how

5239
03:32:33,200 --> 03:32:35,600
many trucks or traffic was. It's so

5240
03:32:35,600 --> 03:32:37,520
fascinating that we're to this point,

5241
03:32:37,520 --> 03:32:40,960
but rightly so because of some botched

5242
03:32:40,960 --> 03:32:43,600
um outreach other places. However, I

5243
03:32:43,600 --> 03:32:45,520
think if we can if we can put up in

5244
03:32:45,520 --> 03:32:47,120
black and white, here are the actual

5245
03:32:47,120 --> 03:32:48,720
facts, here are the numbers behind all

5246
03:32:48,720 --> 03:32:51,200
of this, I think it'll make my job a lot

5247
03:32:51,200 --> 03:32:53,920
easier to come to make a decision

5248
03:32:53,920 --> 03:32:57,439
factual based instead of, you know,

5249
03:32:57,439 --> 03:33:00,560
subjection subject subjectively.

5250
03:33:00,560 --> 03:33:03,279
Whoa, what time is it tonight? Um, so if

5251
03:33:03,279 --> 03:33:05,760
you could do that for me, put those just

5252
03:33:05,760 --> 03:33:08,000
directly in front of my face.

5253
03:33:08,000 --> 03:33:10,080
>> Here are the numbers.

5254
03:33:10,080 --> 03:33:11,920
>> Um, we're going to hold you accountable

5255
03:33:11,920 --> 03:33:13,760
to those numbers if you do get approved

5256
03:33:13,760 --> 03:33:15,040
and move forward. Right. And I think

5257
03:33:15,040 --> 03:33:17,920
that annual update about what it looks

5258
03:33:17,920 --> 03:33:19,520
like. It was a great question. I'm not

5259
03:33:19,520 --> 03:33:21,200
sure if Kevin or It was a great

5260
03:33:21,200 --> 03:33:22,960
question. What does that look like? Will

5261
03:33:22,960 --> 03:33:24,399
you come before us and say here's what

5262
03:33:24,399 --> 03:33:25,840
we used? Here's what we generated. All

5263
03:33:25,840 --> 03:33:27,520
of those things. And I think one thing

5264
03:33:27,520 --> 03:33:29,439
you're missing on here is what is the

5265
03:33:29,439 --> 03:33:31,920
benefit to the city? You do show that on

5266
03:33:31,920 --> 03:33:34,800
your slide. Um, currently the property

5267
03:33:34,800 --> 03:33:36,880
value, I looked it up, is valued at $50

5268
03:33:36,880 --> 03:33:40,640
million. Um, the tax difference between

5269
03:33:40,640 --> 03:33:42,800
50 million and 4 billion is a

5270
03:33:42,800 --> 03:33:44,479
significant number, a significant

5271
03:33:44,479 --> 03:33:46,080
benefit to the county, to the Neville

5272
03:33:46,080 --> 03:33:48,239
school district, to the city itself. And

5273
03:33:48,239 --> 03:33:50,479
so there is some positive upside. Um,

5274
03:33:50,479 --> 03:33:53,760
taking 3600 trucks off the system every

5275
03:33:53,760 --> 03:33:56,560
single day or once a yearly is a big

5276
03:33:56,560 --> 03:33:58,239
deal. So, I think the case can be made,

5277
03:33:58,239 --> 03:34:00,560
but I need to see them in black and

5278
03:34:00,560 --> 03:34:02,880
white so that when someone stops me at

5279
03:34:02,880 --> 03:34:05,279
May and says, "What the have you done?"

5280
03:34:05,279 --> 03:34:07,120
I want to be able to say, "Look, here

5281
03:34:07,120 --> 03:34:10,000
are our options. You tell me what's the

5282
03:34:10,000 --> 03:34:11,520
least impactful and most beneficial to

5283
03:34:11,520 --> 03:34:12,000
the city."

5284
03:34:12,000 --> 03:34:14,800
>> Shane, one one thing we talked about in

5285
03:34:14,800 --> 03:34:16,800
a prior meeting

5286
03:34:16,800 --> 03:34:18,960
that when you get people to get on and

5287
03:34:18,960 --> 03:34:21,359
say you're liars or they're liars that

5288
03:34:21,359 --> 03:34:22,800
you don't believe them, the water,

5289
03:34:22,800 --> 03:34:24,080
they're going to use a lot more water

5290
03:34:24,080 --> 03:34:25,003
than that.

5291
03:34:25,003 --> 03:34:25,200
>> [snorts]

5292
03:34:25,200 --> 03:34:28,399
>> One way that we've discussed about the

5293
03:34:28,399 --> 03:34:31,439
water is, and we can have our our

5294
03:34:31,439 --> 03:34:34,399
engineers discuss this as well. If they

5295
03:34:34,399 --> 03:34:36,880
were a user that was going to use 650

5296
03:34:36,880 --> 03:34:39,279
million, was that the number that I saw,

5297
03:34:39,279 --> 03:34:42,399
of gallons of water a year, would they

5298
03:34:42,399 --> 03:34:44,399
need to improve the infrastructure?

5299
03:34:44,399 --> 03:34:46,640
Would they need to increase the pipes to

5300
03:34:46,640 --> 03:34:48,560
be able to bring in that much water?

5301
03:34:48,560 --> 03:34:50,239
More than likely, yes, they would need

5302
03:34:50,239 --> 03:34:52,239
to. And from our understanding and part

5303
03:34:52,239 --> 03:34:54,160
of the development agreement is that

5304
03:34:54,160 --> 03:34:57,200
there won't be increased water pipes as

5305
03:34:57,200 --> 03:34:57,840
far as the size.

5306
03:34:57,840 --> 03:34:58,720
>> You can't get the water there.

5307
03:34:58,720 --> 03:35:00,479
So even

5308
03:35:00,479 --> 03:35:04,000
if they needed 650 million, they can't

5309
03:35:04,000 --> 03:35:05,439
get the water there. You're not going to

5310
03:35:05,439 --> 03:35:08,319
build something that you can't service

5311
03:35:08,319 --> 03:35:10,800
and and provide your customers what they

5312
03:35:10,800 --> 03:35:13,439
need. And so that's one way to show or

5313
03:35:13,439 --> 03:35:15,200
tell somebody, you know, they're lying

5314
03:35:15,200 --> 03:35:16,800
about the water. Well, if they're lying

5315
03:35:16,800 --> 03:35:18,080
about it, then they're going to struggle

5316
03:35:18,080 --> 03:35:19,680
because they're not getting the water

5317
03:35:19,680 --> 03:35:21,600
that you claim they're going to need.

5318
03:35:21,600 --> 03:35:23,279
>> Yeah, that's a that's a key point and

5319
03:35:23,279 --> 03:35:25,439
it's one of the one of the top level

5320
03:35:25,439 --> 03:35:27,600
kind of lowhanging

5321
03:35:27,600 --> 03:35:31,279
answers to consider is that if we are

5322
03:35:31,279 --> 03:35:34,000
not requesting any additional water than

5323
03:35:34,000 --> 03:35:36,640
is currently permitted,

5324
03:35:36,640 --> 03:35:40,239
then we're not a threat to

5325
03:35:40,239 --> 03:35:43,920
excessive water use. And to your point,

5326
03:35:43,920 --> 03:35:47,279
um, our company, our investors would

5327
03:35:47,279 --> 03:35:48,960
never,

5328
03:35:48,960 --> 03:35:52,880
um, approve the investment of this scale

5329
03:35:52,880 --> 03:35:55,040
into something that would require us to

5330
03:35:55,040 --> 03:35:56,960
then come back and do some kind of bait

5331
03:35:56,960 --> 03:35:59,760
and switch where we actually needed more

5332
03:35:59,760 --> 03:36:00,640
water.

5333
03:36:00,640 --> 03:36:02,720
>> So, that is not a thing.

5334
03:36:02,720 --> 03:36:07,200
>> Um, but I do want to help

5335
03:36:07,200 --> 03:36:09,439
bucket these a little bit better for

5336
03:36:09,439 --> 03:36:09,760
you.

5337
03:36:09,760 --> 03:36:11,279
>> Thank you. Appreciate that. Okay.

5338
03:36:11,279 --> 03:36:14,080
>> Councilman Marshall maybe on

5339
03:36:14,080 --> 03:36:17,670
>> it's me.

5340
03:36:17,680 --> 03:36:20,720
» I was talking. [laughter]

5341
03:36:20,720 --> 03:36:23,600
>> Not again.

5342
03:36:23,600 --> 03:36:24,000
>> Okay.

5343
03:36:24,000 --> 03:36:27,520
>> Water usage, power usage, even maybe

5344
03:36:27,520 --> 03:36:30,720
like trips per day per home. We have

5345
03:36:30,720 --> 03:36:34,000
those numbers. So that part of what you

5346
03:36:34,000 --> 03:36:36,239
described and that you want to see I

5347
03:36:36,239 --> 03:36:38,000
feel I mean I not that I don't trust

5348
03:36:38,000 --> 03:36:39,600
Jeff but I would

5349
03:36:39,600 --> 03:36:41,200
>> yeah

5350
03:36:41,200 --> 03:36:41,760
I don't

5351
03:36:41,760 --> 03:36:43,359
>> so we could work with them and we can

5352
03:36:43,359 --> 03:36:46,239
say hey use these numbers for that.

5353
03:36:46,239 --> 03:36:47,920
>> It's you know you can you could Google

5354
03:36:47,920 --> 03:36:49,359
it. You could have chat do it and it

5355
03:36:49,359 --> 03:36:51,040
would come up with some ballpark

5356
03:36:51,040 --> 03:36:53,120
estimates. I mean when Mike said what's

5357
03:36:53,120 --> 03:36:55,920
five tons I'm like what's the let me let

5358
03:36:55,920 --> 03:36:56,560
me figure that out.

5359
03:36:56,560 --> 03:36:58,080
>> Let me use that data center to figure it

5360
03:36:58,080 --> 03:36:58,479
out.

5361
03:36:58,479 --> 03:36:59,585
>> Yep. Yeah, we can use that

5362
03:36:59,585 --> 03:37:00,800
[clears throat] data center. But I

5363
03:37:00,800 --> 03:37:02,479
appreciate that, Dave. Like I think that

5364
03:37:02,479 --> 03:37:05,520
is the context that will help

5365
03:37:05,520 --> 03:37:08,000
>> frame the argument one way or the other.

5366
03:37:08,000 --> 03:37:10,239
>> The the part Yeah, I think that's a

5367
03:37:10,239 --> 03:37:12,720
great point in that when we talk

5368
03:37:12,720 --> 03:37:15,520
thousands of gallons of water, well, we

5369
03:37:15,520 --> 03:37:17,840
think of the gallon jug that we just got

5370
03:37:17,840 --> 03:37:20,545
and thousands. That's a lot. Well,

5371
03:37:20,545 --> 03:37:22,720
[snorts] uses five million gallons right

5372
03:37:22,720 --> 03:37:25,279
now per year, right? And so we're trying

5373
03:37:25,279 --> 03:37:27,520
to use these ton these words tons and

5374
03:37:27,520 --> 03:37:30,399
gallons and thousands of this stuff. And

5375
03:37:30,399 --> 03:37:32,720
when you put it in those

5376
03:37:32,720 --> 03:37:35,600
the context of it is what is super

5377
03:37:35,600 --> 03:37:38,560
important of of of how that levels with

5378
03:37:38,560 --> 03:37:41,920
what's currently used. Um,

5379
03:37:41,920 --> 03:37:44,720
my summary of of of maybe looking at

5380
03:37:44,720 --> 03:37:47,760
something like this is echoing what

5381
03:37:47,760 --> 03:37:50,000
what's been said here already, but not

5382
03:37:50,000 --> 03:37:53,680
hooked to our power, but hooked to our

5383
03:37:53,680 --> 03:37:55,680
water in a way that you have the rights

5384
03:37:55,680 --> 03:37:58,399
to to water and you're proposing to lo

5385
03:37:58,399 --> 03:38:00,479
use a lot less. So, considerably less

5386
03:38:00,479 --> 03:38:03,439
than currently used there and and other

5387
03:38:03,439 --> 03:38:06,479
facilities certainly of that size. And

5388
03:38:06,479 --> 03:38:08,479
you are hooked. We wouldn't call it our

5389
03:38:08,479 --> 03:38:10,399
natural gas. It's not our natural gas,

5390
03:38:10,399 --> 03:38:12,720
but we are natural gas customers. All of

5391
03:38:12,720 --> 03:38:15,439
us residents are natural gas customers.

5392
03:38:15,439 --> 03:38:17,760
I think it's a a part that's maybe not

5393
03:38:17,760 --> 03:38:20,000
touched here, but that's where that's

5394
03:38:20,000 --> 03:38:21,120
where you're going to start that

5395
03:38:21,120 --> 03:38:23,840
generation of power. And so if if I

5396
03:38:23,840 --> 03:38:27,439
don't know, which I just don't know, uh

5397
03:38:27,439 --> 03:38:31,040
is you using that much natural gas going

5398
03:38:31,040 --> 03:38:33,359
to take away from the natural gas that I

5399
03:38:33,359 --> 03:38:36,239
use? I pay a bill, you pay a bill, your

5400
03:38:36,239 --> 03:38:38,319
bill is going to be considerably larger,

5401
03:38:38,319 --> 03:38:40,800
but is there enough out there that it

5402
03:38:40,800 --> 03:38:43,200
doesn't and and again,

5403
03:38:43,200 --> 03:38:45,040
I'm saying this in a way that I'm being

5404
03:38:45,040 --> 03:38:46,720
a little rhetorical with it because

5405
03:38:46,720 --> 03:38:48,319
there wouldn't be that many billions of

5406
03:38:48,319 --> 03:38:50,160
dollars invested if they didn't think

5407
03:38:50,160 --> 03:38:52,000
there was a source that could be

5408
03:38:52,000 --> 03:38:54,239
continually run to run those

5409
03:38:54,239 --> 03:38:57,120
>> run those machines that power this.

5410
03:38:57,120 --> 03:39:00,080
>> Uh but still in my mind as the resident

5411
03:39:00,080 --> 03:39:02,479
would be you're taking a lot of natural

5412
03:39:02,479 --> 03:39:04,960
gas. Is there enough natural gas for the

5413
03:39:04,960 --> 03:39:06,319
rest of us? And I'm sure that's

5414
03:39:06,319 --> 03:39:08,800
something that your who who you're

5415
03:39:08,800 --> 03:39:11,279
buying that from is going to say that

5416
03:39:11,279 --> 03:39:14,399
too. Um and and so some reassurance

5417
03:39:14,399 --> 03:39:16,560
there that's probably in permits or

5418
03:39:16,560 --> 03:39:19,439
documents or something that says

5419
03:39:19,439 --> 03:39:25,840
>> we'd be h happy to and it's um yeah the difference between natural gas as a

5420
03:39:25,840 --> 03:39:28,640
resource compared to electricity from

5421
03:39:28,640 --> 03:39:32,319
the grid as a resource are miles apart

5422
03:39:32,319 --> 03:39:35,520
in their availability. That doesn't mean

5423
03:39:35,520 --> 03:39:38,000
that natural gas. We are projected to

5424
03:39:38,000 --> 03:39:41,359
see natural gas over the next 10 years

5425
03:39:41,359 --> 03:39:43,200
um nationwide

5426
03:39:43,200 --> 03:39:46,239
have some incremental increase because

5427
03:39:46,239 --> 03:39:49,920
of the additional use of natural gas for

5428
03:39:49,920 --> 03:39:53,120
systems like this. In the short term, uh

5429
03:39:53,120 --> 03:39:55,680
there's there is no incremental impact

5430
03:39:55,680 --> 03:39:57,680
to the rateayers

5431
03:39:57,680 --> 03:40:00,560
uh of natural gas at all. But let us

5432
03:40:00,560 --> 03:40:02,880
hope you document see that in in

5433
03:40:02,880 --> 03:40:05,840
something documented.

5434
03:40:05,840 --> 03:40:08,479
Jeff, is there you in your video, I

5435
03:40:08,479 --> 03:40:10,160
think it was, you talked about the data

5436
03:40:10,160 --> 03:40:12,080
centers that you guys have built. Um, is

5437
03:40:12,080 --> 03:40:14,560
there an example of one anywhere that we

5438
03:40:14,560 --> 03:40:16,800
could see like pictures of or is it like

5439
03:40:16,800 --> 03:40:19,279
I that's just a question I had. Sorry.

5440
03:40:19,279 --> 03:40:21,120
>> But [snorts] no, the closest facility

5441
03:40:21,120 --> 03:40:25,279
similar to this is here in Utah, NOVA.

5442
03:40:25,279 --> 03:40:29,520
in that they utilize a large portion of

5443
03:40:29,520 --> 03:40:32,880
the Bloom fuel cell both as backup power

5444
03:40:32,880 --> 03:40:36,479
and primary power. So we have Bloom

5445
03:40:36,479 --> 03:40:39,840
running extremely successfully here in

5446
03:40:39,840 --> 03:40:41,840
Utah. While it's not under the Valition

5447
03:40:41,840 --> 03:40:46,800
brand, um it is the exact same team of

5448
03:40:46,800 --> 03:40:49,760
uh general contractor and engineering

5449
03:40:49,760 --> 03:40:52,479
that is building our facility.

5450
03:40:52,479 --> 03:40:54,479
>> Thank you, Von. This is a question for

5451
03:40:54,479 --> 03:40:56,960
you. Um I know you're you're ready for a

5452
03:40:56,960 --> 03:41:00,160
question tonight. So Jeff talked about

5453
03:41:00,160 --> 03:41:02,239
he's the first uh or Valition is the

5454
03:41:02,239 --> 03:41:04,160
first to do a development agreement of

5455
03:41:04,160 --> 03:41:06,880
this kind at least for this industry.

5456
03:41:06,880 --> 03:41:09,680
One of the things that you see often or

5457
03:41:09,680 --> 03:41:11,920
we've seen increasingly we'll say that

5458
03:41:11,920 --> 03:41:14,239
is data centers saying something and

5459
03:41:14,239 --> 03:41:15,760
then they come back and they sue the

5460
03:41:15,760 --> 03:41:18,160
city for something different. If we do

5461
03:41:18,160 --> 03:41:20,160
this development agreement is that

5462
03:41:20,160 --> 03:41:21,680
protect the city? What does that look

5463
03:41:21,680 --> 03:41:23,920
like? And then how does that stand up in

5464
03:41:23,920 --> 03:41:25,439
court?

5465
03:41:25,439 --> 03:41:32,550
I know it's pretty loaded.

5466
03:41:32,560 --> 03:41:34,960
» Oh, it is working again. That that he

5467
03:41:34,960 --> 03:41:37,600
outlined in the in the presentation. So,

5468
03:41:37,600 --> 03:41:40,000
um those will be metrics and if they

5469
03:41:40,000 --> 03:41:41,279
don't reach them, then they're in breach

5470
03:41:41,279 --> 03:41:44,560
of the agreement. So, that gives us a

5471
03:41:44,560 --> 03:41:47,840
cause of action against that. So, yeah,

5472
03:41:47,840 --> 03:41:50,000
I think it's enforceable for sure. So,

5473
03:41:50,000 --> 03:41:52,239
it's just kind of dependent on how we

5474
03:41:52,239 --> 03:41:52,960
>> put that together.

5475
03:41:52,960 --> 03:41:54,720
>> What types of remedies are are provided

5476
03:41:54,720 --> 03:41:56,720
in the agreement and and how we're going

5477
03:41:56,720 --> 03:41:58,399
to pursue those.

5478
03:41:58,399 --> 03:42:01,200
>> And then, sorry, I have lots of random

5479
03:42:01,200 --> 03:42:02,239
questions. I apologize.

5480
03:42:02,239 --> 03:42:03,600
>> Maybe Jesse, before you go off of that,

5481
03:42:03,600 --> 03:42:08,000
I think for me, one of the things that I've really appreciated [snorts]

5482
03:42:08,000 --> 03:42:10,160
in their proposal is this idea of a

5483
03:42:10,160 --> 03:42:11,680
development agreement. We don't have a

5484
03:42:11,680 --> 03:42:14,080
template for that, like in terms of how

5485
03:42:14,080 --> 03:42:15,760
to have a development agreement with a

5486
03:42:15,760 --> 03:42:18,080
data center. So, I would look to them to

5487
03:42:18,080 --> 03:42:19,200
start that. Like, what are you going to

5488
03:42:19,200 --> 03:42:21,439
propose and what protections and and I'd

5489
03:42:21,439 --> 03:42:23,359
look to their attorney to to propose

5490
03:42:23,359 --> 03:42:24,800
that and work that through and then we

5491
03:42:24,800 --> 03:42:26,479
can measure that against what we're

5492
03:42:26,479 --> 03:42:27,920
comfortable with, you know, what they're

5493
03:42:27,920 --> 03:42:29,520
saying here tonight. I think, you know,

5494
03:42:29,520 --> 03:42:32,239
Jeff's doing a good job of trying to

5495
03:42:32,239 --> 03:42:34,640
identify what uh, you know, where they'd

5496
03:42:34,640 --> 03:42:36,640
like to put the lines in the sand, but

5497
03:42:36,640 --> 03:42:37,840
you know, they'll do that with that

5498
03:42:37,840 --> 03:42:39,359
contract. And I think we we look at

5499
03:42:39,359 --> 03:42:41,359
those issues that you're mentioning and

5500
03:42:41,359 --> 03:42:42,479
weigh it against, you know, that

5501
03:42:42,479 --> 03:42:44,479
language and I think you Von can

5502
03:42:44,479 --> 03:42:46,560
certainly do that.

5503
03:42:46,560 --> 03:42:48,640
But we'll look to them to to propose

5504
03:42:48,640 --> 03:42:49,920
what that looks like because we don't

5505
03:42:49,920 --> 03:42:51,279
have

5506
03:42:51,279 --> 03:42:52,479
>> we don't have the beginnings of that

5507
03:42:52,479 --> 03:42:53,200
template. Right.

5508
03:42:53,200 --> 03:42:54,640
>> Thank you. This might be I don't know if

5509
03:42:54,640 --> 03:42:57,200
this is a Von or a Dave question as I

5510
03:42:57,200 --> 03:42:59,279
look at the code right or the zoning for

5511
03:42:59,279 --> 03:43:02,319
the site currently is I1

5512
03:43:02,319 --> 03:43:05,120
does and I don't see in the use of I1

5513
03:43:05,120 --> 03:43:06,640
obviously we don't have data center in

5514
03:43:06,640 --> 03:43:08,560
title 15.

5515
03:43:08,560 --> 03:43:10,960
Does this fit? Do we have to do a

5516
03:43:10,960 --> 03:43:12,960
different type of amendment for a data

5517
03:43:12,960 --> 03:43:14,319
center? There's already been an

5518
03:43:14,319 --> 03:43:17,120
application submitted for text change to

5519
03:43:17,120 --> 03:43:19,760
specifically list data center and that

5520
03:43:19,760 --> 03:43:22,560
has been considered by the DRC and it's

5521
03:43:22,560 --> 03:43:24,160
going to planning commission.

5522
03:43:24,160 --> 03:43:27,279
>> So is that a separate title 15 change to

5523
03:43:27,279 --> 03:43:28,960
what we're talking about with um self

5524
03:43:28,960 --> 03:43:31,600
power or self or is it in the same

5525
03:43:31,600 --> 03:43:33,040
>> they're in the same they're in the same

5526
03:43:33,040 --> 03:43:33,840
application?

5527
03:43:33,840 --> 03:43:35,359
>> Same application. Okay. So that's the

5528
03:43:35,359 --> 03:43:37,520
one that's going to plantation tomorrow.

5529
03:43:37,520 --> 03:43:40,000
Okay.

5530
03:43:40,000 --> 03:43:40,160
I

5531
03:43:40,160 --> 03:43:41,520
>> think that's the questions I had right

5532
03:43:41,520 --> 03:43:45,349
now.

5533
03:43:45,359 --> 03:43:48,640
again a a discussion item uh on the

5534
03:43:48,640 --> 03:43:51,279
agenda and we appreciate you you being

5535
03:43:51,279 --> 03:43:54,800
uh here to to to have that discussion

5536
03:43:54,800 --> 03:43:58,960
and have these questions um those

5537
03:43:58,960 --> 03:44:01,600
so far see if you can get an extra date

5538
03:44:01,600 --> 03:44:03,760
on the calendar but August 13th and

5539
03:44:03,760 --> 03:44:05,600
August 14th will be here before we know

5540
03:44:05,600 --> 03:44:07,840
it and we'll be able to help you put

5541
03:44:07,840 --> 03:44:10,800
those things out if if you'd like. Um,

5542
03:44:10,800 --> 03:44:12,880
so so people that want to ask questions

5543
03:44:12,880 --> 03:44:13,840
can come ask questions.

5544
03:44:13,840 --> 03:44:14,960
>> That'd be great. Do you recommend that

5545
03:44:14,960 --> 03:44:17,920
we add a Saturday or that we move the

5546
03:44:17,920 --> 03:44:20,960
Friday to or or we do a Friday early in

5547
03:44:20,960 --> 03:44:22,640
the day and a Saturday?

5548
03:44:22,640 --> 03:44:24,399
>> I'd love to see a Saturday. I think that

5549
03:44:24,399 --> 03:44:25,199
would be

5550
03:44:25,199 --> 03:44:25,760
>> Okay.

5551
03:44:25,760 --> 03:44:27,920
>> Yeah, I would prioritize a Saturday as

5552
03:44:27,920 --> 03:44:29,680
far as the other two. My opinion, the

5553
03:44:29,680 --> 03:44:31,279
more the marrier. If you can do a

5554
03:44:31,279 --> 03:44:32,960
Thursday, Friday, Saturday, great.

5555
03:44:32,960 --> 03:44:34,560
>> Well, yeah, let's debate that a little

5556
03:44:34,560 --> 03:44:36,239
bit. Do you really want to come to a

5557
03:44:36,239 --> 03:44:37,680
meeting on a Saturday or would you

5558
03:44:37,680 --> 03:44:40,399
rather like a Thursday night? Well,

5559
03:44:40,399 --> 03:44:41,520
you're saying you're still a human

5560
03:44:41,520 --> 03:44:43,439
being. So, you're saying values your

5561
03:44:43,439 --> 03:44:44,319
Saturdays.

5562
03:44:44,319 --> 03:44:46,160
>> So, maybe a Thursday afternoon and a

5563
03:44:46,160 --> 03:44:47,040
Friday evening.

5564
03:44:47,040 --> 03:44:47,439
>> Well, you

5565
03:44:47,439 --> 03:44:48,319
>> Okay.

5566
03:44:48,319 --> 03:44:49,120
>> Friday evening is

5567
03:44:49,120 --> 03:44:50,560
>> How long has it been since you were a

5568
03:44:50,560 --> 03:44:52,479
teenager? Come on. Friday.

5569
03:44:52,479 --> 03:44:53,840
>> Thursday evening, a Friday [laughter]

5570
03:44:53,840 --> 03:44:55,199
afternoon.

5571
03:44:55,199 --> 03:44:56,800
>> Sorry. I'm not trying to be too snarky.

5572
03:44:56,800 --> 03:44:57,840
Obviously, I'm trying to be a little

5573
03:44:57,840 --> 03:44:58,560
snarky.

5574
03:44:58,560 --> 03:45:00,000
>> I think a mixture of all of them would

5575
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:02,319
actually be the best, right? Something

5576
03:45:02,319 --> 03:45:03,359
in the middle of the day, something in

5577
03:45:03,359 --> 03:45:04,479
the evening, and something on Saturday.

5578
03:45:04,479 --> 03:45:06,000
I think that you've tried to encapsulate

5579
03:45:06,000 --> 03:45:07,120
the group of people that are going to

5580
03:45:07,120 --> 03:45:07,760
come.

5581
03:45:07,760 --> 03:45:10,640
>> Yeah. I just I don't know what kind of

5582
03:45:10,640 --> 03:45:12,640
experience you'd get on a Saturday. So,

5583
03:45:12,640 --> 03:45:13,920
I'm looking to you not as

5584
03:45:13,920 --> 03:45:15,600
>> what I know we will get if we don't

5585
03:45:15,600 --> 03:45:17,439
offer something is you're not

5586
03:45:17,439 --> 03:45:19,199
transparent enough.

5587
03:45:19,199 --> 03:45:19,920
>> Yeah. Those

5588
03:45:19,920 --> 03:45:21,120
>> 10 to 10 to two.

5589
03:45:21,120 --> 03:45:22,479
>> Yeah. We'd rather air on that side of

5590
03:45:22,479 --> 03:45:25,359
it. I think a Friday afternoon might

5591
03:45:25,359 --> 03:45:27,279
make sense if people have finished with

5592
03:45:27,279 --> 03:45:30,160
sports and different things. And so,

5593
03:45:30,160 --> 03:45:31,920
we're happy to do Thursday, Friday, and

5594
03:45:31,920 --> 03:45:34,399
Saturday. The only limitations in the

5595
03:45:34,399 --> 03:45:36,560
evening on Thursday and Friday was just

5596
03:45:36,560 --> 03:45:38,880
the actual buildings. Sure.

5597
03:45:38,880 --> 03:45:40,800
>> So, let's look at a few different spaces

5598
03:45:40,800 --> 03:45:42,720
and and maybe we reach out to the Nebo

5599
03:45:42,720 --> 03:45:44,000
School District to see if they have a

5600
03:45:44,000 --> 03:45:46,160
space or two that could be used

5601
03:45:46,160 --> 03:45:49,279
>> as well. Like I don't think the location

5602
03:45:49,279 --> 03:45:51,680
matters as long as it's a space that can

5603
03:45:51,680 --> 03:45:52,319
be

5604
03:45:52,319 --> 03:45:53,920
>> Yeah, we looked at the

5605
03:45:53,920 --> 03:45:56,640
>> the library. We looked at this iit

5606
03:45:56,640 --> 03:45:58,319
facility.

5607
03:45:58,319 --> 03:46:00,000
>> Does that make sense?

5608
03:46:00,000 --> 03:46:01,199
>> City in this new

5609
03:46:01,199 --> 03:46:02,880
>> city. Was it

5610
03:46:02,880 --> 03:46:04,399
>> in our in our city?

5611
03:46:04,399 --> 03:46:06,720
>> Oh, the fit the fit city. the city

5612
03:46:06,720 --> 03:46:07,920
community center.

5613
03:46:07,920 --> 03:46:08,800
>> Yeah.

5614
03:46:08,800 --> 03:46:10,960
>> Got it wrong. [snorts] Yeah. We Why

5615
03:46:10,960 --> 03:46:12,239
don't we We'll just have somebody reach

5616
03:46:12,239 --> 03:46:14,000
out to you tomorrow and work on those

5617
03:46:14,000 --> 03:46:18,080
dates and try to write pick some times.

5618
03:46:18,080 --> 03:46:20,000
>> Probably

5619
03:46:20,000 --> 03:46:22,399
Thursday evening, Friday afternoon, and

5620
03:46:22,399 --> 03:46:24,560
something on Saturday. And yeah, and

5621
03:46:24,560 --> 03:46:26,319
we'll expect Shane to be there every

5622
03:46:26,319 --> 03:46:27,840
single Saturday.

5623
03:46:27,840 --> 03:46:30,097
>> Not every single time, just a Saturday.

5624
03:46:30,097 --> 03:46:30,720
[laughter]

5625
03:46:30,720 --> 03:46:32,399
Yeah.

5626
03:46:32,399 --> 03:46:34,960
>> And when is this when is this planned to

5627
03:46:34,960 --> 03:46:37,840
be on the city council agenda?

5628
03:46:37,840 --> 03:46:40,160
>> Uh potentially the text we talked about

5629
03:46:40,160 --> 03:46:41,760
could be on the agenda for your next

5630
03:46:41,760 --> 03:46:43,199
meeting.

5631
03:46:43,199 --> 03:46:44,160
>> Two weeks from today

5632
03:46:44,160 --> 03:46:45,199
>> potentially. Yeah.

5633
03:46:45,199 --> 03:46:47,439
>> It will be on the planning commission's

5634
03:46:47,439 --> 03:46:49,760
agenda. It is on their agenda tomorrow.

5635
03:46:49,760 --> 03:46:50,080
>> Correct.

5636
03:46:50,080 --> 03:46:51,840
>> And that's a public hearing discussion.

5637
03:46:51,840 --> 03:46:52,239
>> Yes.

5638
03:46:52,239 --> 03:46:55,680
>> Yeah. And and depending on how that

5639
03:46:55,680 --> 03:46:58,000
goes, we would expect the 18th to be a

5640
03:46:58,000 --> 03:46:59,920
public hearing.

5641
03:46:59,920 --> 03:47:03,600
uh on the item just the same

5642
03:47:03,600 --> 03:47:05,359
and then you would consider it from

5643
03:47:05,359 --> 03:47:08,000
there.

5644
03:47:08,000 --> 03:47:10,960
>> I think uh I didn't know that um Rage

5645
03:47:10,960 --> 03:47:12,080
Against the Machine was going to come

5646
03:47:12,080 --> 03:47:14,319
full circle tonight. I'm glad it has,

5647
03:47:14,319 --> 03:47:17,439
but I think that uh we can we can take

5648
03:47:17,439 --> 03:47:23,120
that here in the in the context of uh

5649
03:47:23,120 --> 03:47:25,359
that was something that that got out of

5650
03:47:25,359 --> 03:47:27,359
hand pretty quick. Uh, and it's a

5651
03:47:27,359 --> 03:47:30,479
different era of of of 30 years ago for

5652
03:47:30,479 --> 03:47:33,760
sure. But we immediately went to the

5653
03:47:33,760 --> 03:47:35,279
worst case scenario of what was going to

5654
03:47:35,279 --> 03:47:38,160
happen for some some teenagers to come

5655
03:47:38,160 --> 03:47:40,000
jump around and listen to rock and roll

5656
03:47:40,000 --> 03:47:42,160
music. And then we had the best case

5657
03:47:42,160 --> 03:47:43,520
scenario that what they were going to

5658
03:47:43,520 --> 03:47:45,279
come help all the old ladies across the

5659
03:47:45,279 --> 03:47:46,720
street. It was probably somewhere in

5660
03:47:46,720 --> 03:47:48,560
between. Uh, and

5661
03:47:48,560 --> 03:47:49,840
>> did you help anybody across the street

5662
03:47:49,840 --> 03:47:52,000
that day? I didn't help anybody, but uh

5663
03:47:52,000 --> 03:47:56,160
you know they uh I I think I think in

5664
03:47:56,160 --> 03:47:59,120
circumstances like this it it behooves

5665
03:47:59,120 --> 03:48:00,640
and we're this way anyway in Spanish

5666
03:48:00,640 --> 03:48:02,319
Fork. I hope you guys have felt it and

5667
03:48:02,319 --> 03:48:03,840
everybody watching here can feel it.

5668
03:48:03,840 --> 03:48:06,080
We're try to have level heads on our

5669
03:48:06,080 --> 03:48:08,080
shoulders and get the data, get the get

5670
03:48:08,080 --> 03:48:10,960
the facts um and then and then discuss

5671
03:48:10,960 --> 03:48:14,080
those so we can so we can come to a a

5672
03:48:14,080 --> 03:48:16,960
conclusion that um that is beneficial.

5673
03:48:16,960 --> 03:48:20,560
And so, um, appreciate all the all the

5674
03:48:20,560 --> 03:48:22,080
information. Appreciate you taking the

5675
03:48:22,080 --> 03:48:24,239
time and appreciate you being willing to

5676
03:48:24,239 --> 03:48:26,960
have the public come do that, too. But I

5677
03:48:26,960 --> 03:48:28,720
think it's incumbent on all of us to to

5678
03:48:28,720 --> 03:48:30,880
do like we always do and and get that

5679
03:48:30,880 --> 03:48:32,800
data, try to answer some questions. And

5680
03:48:32,800 --> 03:48:34,080
when you don't know the answer to some

5681
03:48:34,080 --> 03:48:36,239
questions, let's figure it out. I'll bet

5682
03:48:36,239 --> 03:48:37,840
none of us knew tonight that it was the

5683
03:48:37,840 --> 03:48:40,319
average was half a million gallons in

5684
03:48:40,319 --> 03:48:42,560
our own house of of water, but now we

5685
03:48:42,560 --> 03:48:46,399
do. and uh and so we can we can we can

5686
03:48:46,399 --> 03:48:49,359
help put those in all context. So,

5687
03:48:49,359 --> 03:48:50,000
>> thank you.

5688
03:48:50,000 --> 03:48:50,720
>> Yes. Thank you.

5689
03:48:50,720 --> 03:48:51,840
>> Anything else you want to finish?

5690
03:48:51,840 --> 03:48:53,680
>> No, nothing else. I just uh appreciate

5691
03:48:53,680 --> 03:48:55,120
the work that we've done together at

5692
03:48:55,120 --> 03:48:56,960
this point. However it lands, I want to

5693
03:48:56,960 --> 03:48:58,560
ensure

5694
03:48:58,560 --> 03:49:00,160
uh that you know our approach and the

5695
03:49:00,160 --> 03:49:02,479
conversations with the community is uh

5696
03:49:02,479 --> 03:49:04,560
there will be no there will be no

5697
03:49:04,560 --> 03:49:07,279
agitation. you know, uh we're not going

5698
03:49:07,279 --> 03:49:08,880
to be there to argue anything with

5699
03:49:08,880 --> 03:49:10,479
anybody other than to present

5700
03:49:10,479 --> 03:49:13,359
information and if others if there are

5701
03:49:13,359 --> 03:49:14,880
folks who are upset or you know that's

5702
03:49:14,880 --> 03:49:18,000
okay. There won't be any uh it they'll

5703
03:49:18,000 --> 03:49:20,800
all be really good conversations um from

5704
03:49:20,800 --> 03:49:22,239
our standpoints. We look forward to it.

5705
03:49:22,239 --> 03:49:22,960
>> Appreciate it, Jeff.

5706
03:49:22,960 --> 03:49:24,640
>> Okay. Thank you so much.

5707
03:49:24,640 --> 03:49:25,199
>> Thanks a lot.

5708
03:49:25,199 --> 03:49:27,760
>> Thank you.

5709
03:49:27,760 --> 03:49:29,040
>> Hey, I got to give you some context

5710
03:49:29,040 --> 03:49:30,880
because you you please challenge me.

5711
03:49:30,880 --> 03:49:31,840
>> Context. Good.

5712
03:49:31,840 --> 03:49:34,399
>> I see in OR in Provo, the big hospital.

5713
03:49:34,399 --> 03:49:40,239
>> Yes. 5.4 tons of nitro of NOX a year.

5714
03:49:40,239 --> 03:49:43,920
>> They generate just over

5715
03:49:43,920 --> 03:49:45,520
Dang it. Now I can't see it. Do you want

5716
03:49:45,520 --> 03:49:47,040
my readers please?

5717
03:49:47,040 --> 03:49:49,199
>> Point

5718
03:49:49,199 --> 03:49:52,960
Listen Peanut Gallery.

5719
03:49:52,960 --> 03:49:56,000
>> Come on. Um PM2.5.8.

5720
03:49:56,000 --> 03:49:58,640
These guys were re something like 0.5.

5721
03:49:58,640 --> 03:50:00,960
So that's the type of context the

5722
03:50:00,960 --> 03:50:03,680
hospital in Orum or Provo generates

5723
03:50:03,680 --> 03:50:05,600
about the same sort of emissions.

5724
03:50:05,600 --> 03:50:06,720
>> Y

5725
03:50:06,720 --> 03:50:07,680
>> So FYI,

5726
03:50:07,680 --> 03:50:09,279
>> good stuff. Good stuff. Let's let's

5727
03:50:09,279 --> 03:50:10,800
gather those data points and be able to

5728
03:50:10,800 --> 03:50:13,120
put it in context to make an educated Y

5729
03:50:13,120 --> 03:50:15,120
>> decision should it come in in front of

5730
03:50:15,120 --> 03:50:16,319
us.

5731
03:50:16,319 --> 03:50:19,199
>> Appreciate that. Um I don't think we

5732
03:50:19,199 --> 03:50:21,279
have any other discussion items before

5733
03:50:21,279 --> 03:50:22,960
adjouring to close session. We do have

5734
03:50:22,960 --> 03:50:24,640
close session and some items on there

5735
03:50:24,640 --> 03:50:25,439
tonight, right?

5736
03:50:25,439 --> 03:50:26,160
>> Yep.

5737
03:50:26,160 --> 03:50:27,600
>> Anything else before that?

5738
03:50:27,600 --> 03:50:28,960
>> Okay. to entertain a motion.

5739
03:50:28,960 --> 03:50:30,640
>> I move to adjourn to close meeting for

5740
03:50:30,640 --> 03:50:32,239
strategy sessions to discuss pending or

5741
03:50:32,239 --> 03:50:33,520
reasonable imminent litigation or

5742
03:50:33,520 --> 03:50:35,120
strategy sessions to discuss the sale of

5743
03:50:35,120 --> 03:50:37,359
real estate or real property including

5744
03:50:37,359 --> 03:50:40,560
any form of water right shares per Utah

5745
03:50:40,560 --> 03:50:42,640
code 52-4-205

5746
03:50:42,640 --> 03:50:44,880
in the explorer room.

5747
03:50:44,880 --> 03:50:47,840
>> Motion made by Councilman Carden.

5748
03:50:47,840 --> 03:50:50,479
>> Second by Councilman Tuk to adjourn to

5749
03:50:50,479 --> 03:50:52,479
close meeting. All in favor say yes.

5750
03:50:52,479 --> 03:50:52,960
>> Yes.

5751
03:50:52,960 --> 03:50:54,319
>> We're adjourned to close session. Thank

5752
03:50:54,319 --> 03:50:57,279
you all for coming.