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uh so had everybody can show up for the

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everybody United States of

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the stands

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indivisible andice for all

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thing on the agenda

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tonight approval of the

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agenda is there any addition changes to

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agenda and there's going to be one for

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me

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John Brady called me this evening and

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John asked me

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to turn his resignation

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in

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John great

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guy come on

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ask

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be okay I need the approval of the

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minutes motion to approve agend approve

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the agenda

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okay need to approval of the minutes for

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the reg meeting May

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4 and budget meeting session

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uh public

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comment agenda

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item somebody needs to

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excuse uh citizens are encouraged to

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comment at this time on any item

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specifically listed as an agenda meeting

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agenda this common TI will limit to 3

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minutes so

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anybody agenda

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agenda uh number five we got the

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rezoning

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request uh following by the public hear

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got P Woody

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request

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D15 58 Lo off the Southside

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Drive reone from neighborhood business

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to R12 single family and two family

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residents and I think I've got two

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people wants to speak on

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excuse

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me it's really great that we all we have

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microphones but if you don't talk into

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them they don't do any good

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okay thank you open up thank you public

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hearing on this

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matter and we've got two people there

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that's going to speak on behal of the re

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got car

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BR and

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L first let me understand uh has the

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property been resigned or just

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recommended by the

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I can speak to that Mike if you would

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like yes the planning board did hear the

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request that two weeks ago and the

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planning board makes a recommendation to

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the Town Council now planning board did

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recommend approval but it is for the

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council to make

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okay thank you because there's a

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vertical voice and I thought that's the

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way

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should so it's my understanding that

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you're hearing this tonight

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to accept or

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recomendation yes okay um again my name

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is Le wats and I live

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field up

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South take a ride then go into a

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subdivision called men subdivision

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that's been there for a number of

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years Southside Drive is

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a

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road we thought it was for the 22 years

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that we've lived there until the sewer

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project came along and and to drive

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through 100 acres of pumpkins and then

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through the funeral home parking

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experience

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never all right thanks for tuning in

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everybody this video number of people

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live up there as I said it's a dead

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road now

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way we can get in and get out and and

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more than our personal travels up and

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down southide it's the only way that the

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uh police or fire or

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ambulance or any

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emergeny we have

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pum Town Police fire and all and make

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sure they knew were up

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there

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still the uh Southside Drive is a on

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road for the sewer

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project the part in front of the

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property that's in question was down

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near the creek there was nothing but a

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and through the miracle of fil the lot

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is now some 20 ft

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higher than it was before the sewer

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project and what's that's what that's

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done to the road is in front of that the

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property that's in question you can't

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see it's a slope up and you can't see

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over the slope and there's a curve right

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there and you can't see around the curve

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so we you go up there doing this trying

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to look over the over the hill and

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you're doing list trying to see around

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it because Southside rout has a history

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of front front end

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collisions it's happened up there before

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and it's going to happen again and if

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anything's built on this property it's

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about to happen for sure because you

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can't see and your choices are three now

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that the property is raised it's almost

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straight down almost a vertical drop 20

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Creek on the right on the other side

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there's a big rock so your three choices

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are roll over into blo Creek which is

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three M sure death slam into the big

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rock or to have a head on collision so

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collision so I'm here to say that uh if

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you uh change the zone or better yet if

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you allow building to be put there

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whether it be residential commercial or

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whatever then without

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improving Southside Drive so that you

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could at least back in and out of a

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driveway that there's going to be a lot

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of problems so I'm not I'm not saying

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don't do it I'm just saying make it safe for the people that live up

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and make it safe for the people that are

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going to use new facility if

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tode so I would ask that this decision

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not be made in without assurance that

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Southside Drive will be to a

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point minimum

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sa it's

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not a stre SC somebody's going to

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structures allow together secondly uh I

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used to work for planning organization

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did zoning all the time for three to

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areas and I can tell you that in zoning

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the commercial Zoning for that piece of

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property is correct is correct because

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it's right right across the street from

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Highway 21

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through the state and through the

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town and it needs to stay that way you

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have to look at the future think about

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it now it doesn't seem to be a big deal

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but in the future a couple of years from

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now Highway 21 bridge is going to be

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rebuilt so that's going to be a major

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construction uh for our town and when

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that bridge is finished uh the few

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houses that are around there are going

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to be gone because they're already planed to be removed

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before they do the bridge and that area

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is going to become a very viable

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commercial

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area just think into the future it

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wouldn't be unusual that for someone to

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come and ask that would be put place on

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and paid all the way

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2 I'd hate to see that but I expect it

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to happen

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some so that some caution prevailed here

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tonight and not go forward with

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this

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outside the next speakers talk about the

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stability of

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the and as I said it used to be a low L

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now it's got hundreds of cubic feet fill

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that was just put in last the last few

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months when the project was finished

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uh there's enough reason that believe

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that the filder that was put in there is

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not very stable and I would Al I would

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also ask that before you allow anything

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to be built on that site at a geot

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technical State done some borings to to

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find out how stable that is because you

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don't want to allow a building to be

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built there that's going to fall off

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into place of because if you do if you approve that Z you approve that

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building and it falls off into the creek

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somebody's going to get sick it's going

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to be the

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to and then you're going to have to

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pay you're going to have to pay you

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settlement fees attorney fees court fees

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and your insurance to Sky High and

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that's my taxone and that's their tax

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it's all our tax it would be very

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foolish to put yourself in a

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position knowing that there are

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questions about the stability of that

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site and allow building to be put there

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that has a lik

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enger I've been practicing engineering

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for almost 50 years doing

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exactly this type of projects I did make

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visit a few weeks ago

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and get started I realiz it's already

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neighood

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business means building up about 5,000

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it's R 12 or where there's any other

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type

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of the problem

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is this side is unsuitable instru

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anything

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Park I Vis the site and I've looked

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about 30 years of aial photos on both

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Earth and Al count

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system the EMB the embankment on BL Sal

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Creek Side is anywhere 15 to 18 ft above

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the

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creek I measure the slope various

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locations

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along I'll try to

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explain a one to one slope everybody

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understands is basically for every one

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foot you go out it drops one foot

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the slopes that I measure say I measure

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sever of

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1.3 to one go 1.3 ft we drop one foot

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which is I wonder one slope if you're

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standing at the top of it looking down

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you're thinking straight up and down

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D 1.3 one is also it did get as shallow

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as

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one shallow it's 1.75

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a little bit improv as you get towards

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the New River little Rivers side for the

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new

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flat the FI material if you got down on

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the slope I walk

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SL side cover with grass right now you

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got down the red Sal Creek Side and look

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back into the

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embankment the

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material very random had a bunch of

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folders in it which in itself creates a

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problem some

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soil and it was obvious that this

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material was in up and that the top of

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the slope is larly pushed out towards

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the all Creek to increase the

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slope in a like this

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we NC

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do other organization see short a 3 to

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one slope is for uncontrolled field

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which that's what this is a 3:1 slope is

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the maximum slope that you're allowed

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to build

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anything for this site that's the 18 ft

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the nearest building needs to be placed

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no closer than 30.6 ft from the top of

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the now I didn't know this until just a

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few minutes ago CU I did not measure the

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width of the this particular lock I was

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told a

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few wide so as I said you guys can Z it

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anything you want I don't care about

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that but it needs to be built within 20

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ft of Southside Drive outside that 20t

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zone you're placing a structure on

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unstable slope and just to make the

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point it is my professional

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opinion building not any type of

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structure where his neighborhood

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business or is hard 12 or anything yet

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any permanent structure not be

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constructed on this

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side unless a a complete geot and I

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going to be one

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with that ain't going to happen because

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it's type of field plac there to do a

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soil test

305
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boring would probably you probably need

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five borings along that side they need

307
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to go at least 25 ft deep each boring

308
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going to cost you somewhere around 500

309
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per running foot and the reason being

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with all the rock and the

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embankments you can't go out there a do

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the whole so we're talking about

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spending close to

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$100,000 to do a geot evaluation on this

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side so that was one of the

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recommendations earlier it ain't going

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to Happ nobody in the right mind

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$100,000 that's pretty much all I have

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to say somebody's got a question this F

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is this pce of

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unable okay thank you

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appreci anybody else want to speak on

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the come

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finish Road out

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there actually um what I had mentioned

326
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to counil before was inaccurate you know

327
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I had said that the do had wanted us to

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pay that room that that was not

329
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correct no more what is

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already they have asked that the TA inst

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a g along about the first 50 ft or so

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at the most narrow

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point so there will be some improvement

334
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we're still in discussion with the folks

335
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G about the exact location and who

336
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should be paid for that either the town

337
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or the state because that is a state

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maintain

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Road another couple of points I'd like

340
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to make is the uh I have reviewed

341
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the ement agreement with these property

342
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owners and there was no guarantee about

343
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the suitability of the fill material

344
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that would be placed there so we're not

345
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in that sense under any obligation to

346
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say yes or no it's suitable to be built

347
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compl and Mary this may be something you

348
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can speak to but I'm not sure that's

349
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within the town's perview to say that it

350
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should or should not be

351
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based on the so characteristics I would

352
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assume that would be

353
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buildor in the building commits and

354
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those are the folks that as a town we

355
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depend on to have special training

356
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special abilities to decide if a piece

357
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of land can be used for the

358
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proposed building whether it be

359
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commercial or residential if Woodies

360
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anyone else in our community wanted to

361
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build a structure they would have to get

362
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a building permit it's going to look at

363
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so quality is going to look at whether

364
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something perks doesn't perk if it's

365
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going to be stable not stable so all of

366
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that's going to go under the building vs

367
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what this is looking at is whether it

368
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should be zoned residential or stay

369
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zoned where it's at now and from what I

370
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understand the structure could actually

371
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be larger if it was to remain Zone the

372
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way it's at and I went to the planning

373
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meeting and I believe that we're talking

374
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about tiny homes that the buies have

375
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proposed to build is that correct Mr

376
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Town

377
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manager and so we don't know if there

378
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will ever even be any buildings on it

379
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because for there to be buildings of any

380
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sorts there would have to

381
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perits but a tiny home is certainly

382
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going to be smaller than a commercial

383
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structure if the concern is that there's

384
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only so many feet that the property

385
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could have a building on but until

386
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somebody submits a plan somebody ask or

387
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something we just don't

388
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,120
know I think the plan

389
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board we we went ahead and suggested it

390
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be

391
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changed and I don't see I don't see any

392
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difference commercial building

393
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neighborhood business or

394
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the

395
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resal they build they build

396
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a structure on it and they'll have to go

397
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through the process any

398
00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:03,240
how you going to build this structure

399
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,640
man I mean right here in the next

400
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something I just don't understand if

401
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,279
they going build it down there do they

402
00:24:10,279 --> 00:24:12,440
know where the new Bridger

403
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,440
Go I mean looks like to

404
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:17,720
me why would you want to build till you

405
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,840
find that

406
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,960
bridge if it's going to be in a

407
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,640
condemnation

408
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:26,919
action you have a structure on the piece

409
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of property that's getting

410
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might

411
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geten wither own I can't speak to their time

412
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,110
it's not

413
00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:17,640
don't you ever been

414
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,120
underneath no I don't think that I

415
00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:24,159
want I've done

416
00:25:24,159 --> 00:25:25,960
years I

417
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,480
think wats made some good points about

418
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,960
sa um I mean that's that I think that's

419
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,919
where we need to focus at right now um

420
00:25:33,919 --> 00:25:36,320
whether it's us getting the do or it's

421
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:37,520
us figuring out who's going to guard

422
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,000
rail who's going to clear that rock

423
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,480
whatever's going to make that visibility

424
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,640
better um I think that'll be already my

425
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,799
thought I just went through there the

426
00:25:46,799 --> 00:25:48,399
other day I know exactly what he was

427
00:25:48,399 --> 00:25:49,600
talking

428
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:56,350
about I went through

429
00:25:56,360 --> 00:26:03,950
ELD I I mean think

430
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,080
motion figure what Sol going to be guard

431
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,880
not guard going to be I mean I I don't

432
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,159
know what the options are there

433
00:26:12,159 --> 00:26:13,440
personally I have not been there there

434
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,010
so I need to

435
00:26:17,020 --> 00:26:21,830
[Music]

436
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:26,279
take motion second all in

437
00:26:26,279 --> 00:26:31,110
favorable okay

438
00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:35,710
we going into the second

439
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:40,350
public this is

440
00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:44,610
for I hope I'm pronouncing this right

441
00:26:44,610 --> 00:26:46,159
[Music]

442
00:26:46,159 --> 00:26:49,080
rero uh request

443
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,480
partial

444
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,840
3070 88-

445
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:59,600
3437 be res from neighborhood business

446
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:05,430
to residential

447
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,919
mul we got anybody St on that I'll just

448
00:27:09,919 --> 00:27:12,080
comment briefly if you don't mind uh

449
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,840
this is the property it's on Memorial

450
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,880
Park Drive just over here it was the

451
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:24,029
hardware

452
00:27:24,039 --> 00:27:27,600
store and my understanding the the

453
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,200
gentle to turn that

454
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:34,640
into duplex SL report something to that

455
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,000
effect and I know it was spoken at about

456
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,120
at the public hearing at the planning

457
00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:43,600
board meeting that that property

458
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,240
formerly was used for that purpose in

459
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,200
the past so we basically asking to

460
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,039
revert it to a previous use I'll make

461
00:27:53,039 --> 00:28:02,000
that motion so I see

462
00:28:02,010 --> 00:28:05,480
[Music]

463
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,120
excuse

464
00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:11,000
okay so I think the planning board has

465
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:15,909
recommended this to do

466
00:28:15,919 --> 00:28:23,190
this it

467
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,200
backal he now I'll make a motion okay

468
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:36,430
got a motion there

469
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,240
motion second all in

470
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:48,630
favor four of okay that

471
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,480
pass okay we got another public

472
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,679
he this is

473
00:28:54,679 --> 00:28:59,870
for public hearing for 2024

474
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:04,350
2025 Town part of

475
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,440
budget speak to that yes sir as we

476
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,840
discussed previously prior to adopting

477
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,960
the fiscal year 2425 budget U State

478
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:19,080
Statute requires the uh holding of a

479
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,159
public hearing with any person with any

480
00:29:22,159 --> 00:29:25,840
interest uh is allowed to make comment

481
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,120
which the council would take into

482
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,760
consideration prior to adopting that

483
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:36,080
budget the budget itself budget

484
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,279
ordinance may be adopted at any point

485
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:41,919
following the conclusion of the public

486
00:29:41,919 --> 00:29:46,399
hearing uh be it at this meeting or if

487
00:29:46,399 --> 00:29:48,760
there's a need to have another special

488
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,000
meeting prior to the end of the month

489
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,640
just keep in mind that the fiscal year

490
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,799
does conclude on June 30 and a budget

491
00:29:58,799 --> 00:29:59,960
being

492
00:29:59,960 --> 00:30:02,720
adopted basically Town operations would

493
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,559
cease so I'm not trying to put any

494
00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:08,880
urgency upon the council if you feel the

495
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,039
need to have future meetings to discuss

496
00:30:13,039 --> 00:30:17,600
however time is growing somewhat short

497
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,919
so conduct the public hearing and then

498
00:30:21,919 --> 00:30:24,679
consider whether or not you need to have

499
00:30:24,679 --> 00:30:28,950
fut me

500
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:51,590
to

501
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,639
speak I've been in sarta since

502
00:30:54,639 --> 00:30:58,000
2008 um I continued my career

503
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,519
Administration and that of historic

504
00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:02,919
properties and teaching history at the

505
00:31:02,919 --> 00:31:05,279
college level once

506
00:31:05,279 --> 00:31:09,039
here um I noticed that on your budget

507
00:31:09,039 --> 00:31:12,000
propos budget you have an allocation for

508
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:18,440
the alls Cil the allig Arts Council was

509
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,080
reconstituted um some years ago six

510
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,919
seven years ago um with the blessing of

511
00:31:24,919 --> 00:31:28,559
the North Carolina Arts Council which

512
00:31:28,559 --> 00:31:32,000
gives funding to those qualified arts

513
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:37,200
councils in their site um which is

514
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,519
matched in the

515
00:31:39,519 --> 00:31:44,000
community um our particular Arts Council

516
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,919
has uh succeeded in raising private

517
00:31:46,919 --> 00:31:50,760
funds as well as receiving public funds

518
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,200
from the state the county and from the

519
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,000
town and I just wanted to encourage you

520
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:58,600
to

521
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,440
approve give your final approval to

522
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,960
thatst

523
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,320
now some years ago back right after I

524
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,559
came here in 2009 we had that major

525
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:14,080
recession and we lost almost all of our

526
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,799
art teachers in the uh public schools

527
00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:20,480
now we have regained a number of them

528
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,880
but number of our local organizations

529
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,279
and um private nonprofit organizations

530
00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:31,120
in the Arts Council who more and more is

531
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,200
working with individual artists

532
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,519
musicians um working with um literary

533
00:32:38,519 --> 00:32:42,279
interest in books clubs and other

534
00:32:42,279 --> 00:32:46,279
aspects bringing programs into the

535
00:32:46,279 --> 00:32:49,639
schools programs into the community has

536
00:32:49,639 --> 00:32:53,440
done a marvous job when I was teaching

537
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,880
of history at the college level I always

538
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,399
included

539
00:32:58,399 --> 00:33:00,320
uh the Arts

540
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:02,000
architecture

541
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,679
um the um

542
00:33:04,679 --> 00:33:09,279
literature um and the sciences and

543
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:14,720
technology and they really help to uh

544
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,120
make life in a community wor living we

545
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,320
have our traditional Hearts here and we

546
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:24,159
are also required to um provide

547
00:33:24,159 --> 00:33:28,080
programming through the art coun for

548
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,799
Hispanic and African groups is part of

549
00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:36,240
that so I would just like to encourage

550
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:39,279
you as private citizen to continue your

551
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:40,840
support

552
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:48,750
thearts than you very thank

553
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,799
you okay coming out of public care

554
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:55,360
now all

555
00:33:55,360 --> 00:34:01,470
right we got uh

556
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,679
24 or 25 public car

557
00:34:04,679 --> 00:34:07,320
coordinates can you speak on

558
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:14,030
that yes sir as

559
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,040
we job position I just wanted to c a

560
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,720
couple of things um the respons it's

561
00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:23,480
responsible for 25 fulltime employees

562
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,359
parttime employees and a 2.1 million

563
00:34:26,359 --> 00:34:28,520
Town budget

564
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,720
uh you're talking about the $15 million

565
00:34:31,720 --> 00:34:32,839
sewer

566
00:34:32,839 --> 00:34:35,720
project and other grants and whatever so

567
00:34:35,720 --> 00:34:38,119
there a lot more money than that to be

568
00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:42,599
managed and spent and procured in proper

569
00:34:42,599 --> 00:34:46,399
way uh the minimum requirements for a ba

570
00:34:46,399 --> 00:34:49,639
or BS degree referred with the NPA

571
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:53,079
national uh Masters in public

572
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administration experience in local

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government knowled of federal state and

574
00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:01,839
local laws regarding town government the

575
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background in Planning and Zoning human

576
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resources and finance are great greatly

577
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desired candidates should possess the

578
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abilities in areas of budgeting Planning

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and Zoning Economic Development grant

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writing public works

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consens very important Community

582
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involvement internal extend term team

583
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building and the town manager is

584
00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:33,359
considered the budget officer for the

585
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town I urge you to hire the most

586
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,800
qualified candidate don't make a mistake

587
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please like the county did in hiring

588
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,920
someone following Don Adams years ago

589
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,160
it's an important position budget

590
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,359
responsibilities is the key factor

591
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Sparta has a very competent finance

592
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,640
officer py show in place right now but

593
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she will answer to the p

594
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there are two sides to a budget some

595
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think it's only expense management but

596
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equally important is the managing of

597
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Revenue sources including grants

598
00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,319
applications and procuring state and

599
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federal money and all state and federal

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funded

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grants require properly documented

602
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,720
applications with detailed descriptions

603
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:25,280
of the project and the cost of

604
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,200
projections sales tax is your

605
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largest piece of your

606
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,319
revenue for the town of Spartan it's

607
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almost

608
00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:38,359
30% and exceeds that of property tax we

609
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all know that the expense size of the

610
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budget as you talked about here will

611
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continue to go up as we keep up with the

612
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cost of

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L the new town manager M needs to work

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in

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increasing the sales tax revenue that

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the County residents

617
00:36:58,119 --> 00:37:00,119
those from surrounding counties and

618
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:02,960
those who visit the counties pay sales

619
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tax Town Spa members don't pay a lot of

620
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,160
that so Town residents we don't want

621
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them to have to pay all Community

622
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projects that increase sales revenue

623
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include supporting small businesses and

624
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activities that bring people to

625
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,040
Sparta that should be a priority top

626
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priority for our new town manager

627
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this is the biggest decision you all

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will have to make in this 10 10 year of

629
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your office uh whatever time your

630
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service

631
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is don't make a hiring Mistake by not

632
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getting the most qualified candidate

633
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:55,710
the thank

634
00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:58,680
youest this is

635
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a little

636
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:03,000
unusual I want to bring it up front of

637
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the council I've never

638
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been uh they're W some people that want

639
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to have a small

640
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,000
wedding at the stage CR

641
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Park uh told me it's be just about six

642
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,079
people there it's on

643
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Monday and I couldn't say yay or n there

644
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I know bring see what

645
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they

646
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personally let use well we we did set up

647
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R schedu for everybody to rent

648
00:38:49,839 --> 00:38:52,319
facilities I don't think we said they

649
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couldn't could could or could not have a

650
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wedding assume that if they comfortable

651
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they pay the fee then don't have problem