1 00:00:00,340 --> 00:00:01,040 All right, thank you. 2 00:00:01,580 --> 00:00:03,980 I'm just trying to kind of. 3 00:00:03,980 --> 00:00:05,800 Yeah, I'm going to speak for all the participants. 4 00:00:06,220 --> 00:00:07,360 Thank you. 5 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:07,540 That one. 6 00:00:08,260 --> 00:00:10,840 Thank you. 7 00:00:11,260 --> 00:00:12,520 Well, I was going to see the curries. 8 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:12,960 I too. 9 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:14,760 It's good question. 10 00:00:16,980 --> 00:00:17,340 The moment. 11 00:00:19,740 --> 00:00:21,620 All right, six o'clock now. 12 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,340 Do we want to wait a few minutes for you? 13 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:25,240 I love all. 14 00:00:25,340 --> 00:00:26,060 In parking lot. 15 00:00:27,940 --> 00:00:28,220 I agree. 16 00:00:28,380 --> 00:00:28,840 So I wouldn't. 17 00:00:29,700 --> 00:00:30,180 Thank you. 18 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:33,920 Thank you. 19 00:01:12,410 --> 00:01:12,830 You 20 00:01:23,870 --> 00:01:30,030 need a minute to settle in, Bob, are you ready to settle in? 21 00:01:30,030 --> 00:01:30,930 Is there a vodka? 22 00:01:31,690 --> 00:01:33,090 No, he's not coming tonight. 23 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:37,680 Yeah, give us a second. 24 00:01:58,170 --> 00:01:58,650 All right. 25 00:02:06,500 --> 00:02:08,340 This conference will now be recorded. 26 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:10,800 Did he go? 27 00:02:12,020 --> 00:02:12,620 OK. 28 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:19,220 Open up the planning board meeting here on Tuesday, September 15th. 29 00:02:19,380 --> 00:02:21,260 All members present except for one. 30 00:02:26,930 --> 00:02:30,310 First item is, yeah, senior public hearing, 31 00:02:30,310 --> 00:02:32,990 foam water and scenic food permit. 32 00:02:34,170 --> 00:02:34,870 This being possible. 33 00:02:35,630 --> 00:02:39,730 Yes, they requested to continue to October 20th. 34 00:02:39,850 --> 00:02:41,330 They're still waiting for the peer review 35 00:02:41,330 --> 00:02:42,090 from conservation. 36 00:02:42,550 --> 00:02:44,910 They agreed to do the peer review through BSC. 37 00:02:45,430 --> 00:02:47,830 That was the one where there was a miscommunication, 38 00:02:47,830 --> 00:02:51,030 and they had paid for their own reviewer. 39 00:02:52,670 --> 00:02:56,230 And the contract with BSC was signed at the end of August. 40 00:02:56,270 --> 00:02:57,990 So I'm hoping that by our next meeting, 41 00:02:58,230 --> 00:03:00,030 there should be at least the initial peer 42 00:03:00,030 --> 00:03:06,870 you comments? Yeah, that one is getting continued again along with number three. 43 00:03:10,540 --> 00:03:11,340 So do we need to 44 00:03:11,340 --> 00:03:19,400 open up by hearing and then postpone it? Yeah, okay, all right. I don't know too, 45 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:25,520 continue public hearing stormwater cynic road permit applicant, land planning, ink, owner, 46 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:33,840 Rosie in a rail to trust location, the MKZ Road Spencer Mass, Street Address, not yet assigned. 47 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:43,860 This is map R01-18-01, the applicant is seeking a stormwater permit under Article 14, stormwater 48 00:03:43,860 --> 00:03:51,200 management by law, of the Spensis and General by law, and scenic road permit under MGL Chapter 40, 49 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:58,420 section 15C to build a new single-family home with a septic well-in-new driveway. 50 00:03:59,380 --> 00:04:04,100 Property is located within a rural residential zoning district. 51 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:12,380 Okay, so, anyway, I'd comment before we open the meeting, while we're hearing it. 52 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:17,180 So I think since they're not here, we aren't supposed to open it to public comment. 53 00:04:17,420 --> 00:04:18,340 Is that correct? 54 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:28,920 You could, everything needs to be on the record, but you probably recommend that whoever speaks would come back next time, just to make sure that the applicant can hear. 55 00:04:29,380 --> 00:04:31,920 Let's find out if I want to see if I do that first of all. 56 00:04:32,220 --> 00:04:34,880 Didn't want to hear what I want to speak on this item. 57 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,340 Anybody online want to speak on this item? 58 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:43,660 But I have a motion to continue to the next meeting. 59 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,720 I'm going to move on to between. 60 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:46,760 Okay. 61 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,480 All right, roll call vote, Jenna. 62 00:04:50,180 --> 00:04:50,500 All right, Charlie. 63 00:04:50,840 --> 00:04:52,460 All right, jibbles, aye. 64 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:55,520 Next item. 65 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,020 Same situation. 66 00:04:59,500 --> 00:05:00,580 Continued public hearings, 67 00:05:00,980 --> 00:05:02,540 foam water and scenic road. 68 00:05:03,140 --> 00:05:05,240 Remit, applicant, land planning, 69 00:05:05,940 --> 00:05:09,040 hank, owner, bedrosium, relative trust, 70 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,160 location, VM, KC road, Spencer, masks, 71 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,000 street address, not yet assigned. 72 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:22,280 Assessors map are 01-18-02, the applicant is foreseeking, it's somewhat a bit an article 73 00:05:23,140 --> 00:05:28,840 14, it's somewhat water management by law of the Spencer General by law, and a scenic 74 00:05:28,840 --> 00:05:35,440 road permit on the MGL tap the 40 section 15C, the bill they knew singer film me home with 75 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:41,400 a septic well and new driveway, the property is located within the rural residential zoning 76 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:41,980 district. 77 00:05:43,820 --> 00:05:51,080 I want to speak on this item online, so I'm motion to continue. 78 00:05:51,500 --> 00:05:53,700 I'm going to have to go to the 20th. 79 00:05:53,740 --> 00:05:54,660 Yeah, second step. 80 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,020 We'll call Gina. 81 00:05:56,140 --> 00:05:56,780 Hi, Charlie. 82 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:58,680 I have all tied. 83 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:03,580 Next item. 84 00:06:04,980 --> 00:06:05,980 I'm four. 85 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,460 Public hearing, site plan reviews, special permits. 86 00:06:09,660 --> 00:06:11,200 Don't want to permit applicant. 87 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:15,580 Doing the power company and master's electric company owner. 88 00:06:15,580 --> 00:06:25,940 doing with power company, 7.5, 9, metal road, and this is map U11-9 and 10. 89 00:06:26,060 --> 00:06:30,100 The applicant is seeking a site-plan review, special permits, 90 00:06:30,580 --> 00:06:32,040 or a permit under section. 91 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:33,280 7. 92 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:41,180 Very few, 3.4.2, 8 special permit for structures within flood plain. 93 00:06:41,180 --> 00:06:43,900 in the spent to stormwater management by-law, 94 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:48,500 Shonako 14 of the Smith-General by-law's proposed construction 95 00:06:48,500 --> 00:06:52,380 and installation of certain sub-station-related equipment 96 00:06:52,380 --> 00:06:55,980 and facilities that it's existing electric sub-station. 97 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,160 The property is located within the rural, residential, 98 00:07:00,780 --> 00:07:02,560 and commercial zoning districts. 99 00:07:05,620 --> 00:07:06,220 Showtime. 100 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:08,280 Good evening, Mr. Chair. 101 00:07:09,260 --> 00:07:11,180 For the record, my name is Joshua Lee Smith. 102 00:07:11,180 --> 00:07:24,700 I'm going to turn you with a law from about as you can do it and I'm here this evening representing my client, which are two applicants moving the power company and Massachusetts elected company as you mentioned at the outset, Mr. Chair. 103 00:07:26,380 --> 00:07:29,280 Also, as you mentioned, we are here tonight seeking... 104 00:07:30,270 --> 00:07:48,490 3 permits. The first of which is a special permit, considering work within the floodplain, district, we're also seeking a stormwater permit, and then lastly, we're seeking site plan review approval in connection with this project. 105 00:07:51,190 --> 00:08:07,490 He's the civil engineer of record, behind me are a number of representatives consultants with the company who are also here for moral support for us, but also to answer any questions if I, if we cannot answer them. 106 00:08:08,830 --> 00:08:19,450 We've handed out a slide deck, which thank you, Vivian, is also being displayed, not sure if you also have electronic people. 107 00:08:20,010 --> 00:08:23,010 I wanted to run through this pretty briefly. 108 00:08:23,630 --> 00:08:27,190 The slide deck is longer than we're actually going to be formally presenting. 109 00:08:28,590 --> 00:08:31,150 This is a pretty straightforward project. 110 00:08:32,630 --> 00:08:35,790 Vivian, do you have the plans? 111 00:08:35,790 --> 00:08:38,130 Yeah, I don't have a copy of the slide deck. 112 00:08:38,730 --> 00:08:39,850 OK, that's fine. 113 00:08:39,970 --> 00:08:41,710 That's why we brought paper copies. 114 00:08:42,570 --> 00:08:45,790 So as I said, I'm going to run through this pretty quickly, 115 00:08:45,870 --> 00:08:47,770 give it a little back arm, talk about the projects, 116 00:08:48,170 --> 00:08:51,990 as well as the need, and then get into some of the standards 117 00:08:51,990 --> 00:08:54,210 and the need to be met with respect to these permits. 118 00:08:55,350 --> 00:09:00,090 So as most of you probably, this is an existing substation site, 119 00:09:00,170 --> 00:09:01,550 on Mandelek substation. 120 00:09:01,610 --> 00:09:03,950 We'll start at this slide right here. 121 00:09:04,810 --> 00:09:08,870 The station itself has been in existence for decades. 122 00:09:09,750 --> 00:09:16,490 The last time this station was upgradable with respect to equipment within the 123 00:09:16,490 --> 00:09:20,170 substation site was back in 1990s. 124 00:09:20,810 --> 00:09:28,350 So like a lot of durable equipment, it comes a time when that equipment needs to be replaced. 125 00:09:28,710 --> 00:09:32,830 So that is part of the project here is replacement equipment. 126 00:09:32,830 --> 00:09:41,050 The other part, which is more land use related, is some improvements with respect to infiltrations, 127 00:09:41,350 --> 00:09:45,930 stormwater at the substitution site as well, and we'll get into that a little bit more detail 128 00:09:45,930 --> 00:09:53,390 in a moment. As you mentioned, Mr. Chair, this is actually a zoned lot. It's located both 129 00:09:53,390 --> 00:09:58,790 with a commercial district, but where the project work is happening is entirely within our 130 00:09:58,790 --> 00:10:03,390 rural residential portion of the site. Again, it's an existing 131 00:10:03,390 --> 00:10:08,550 substation and will show on one of the slides coming up, the 132 00:10:08,550 --> 00:10:12,790 relatively minor area where the improvements are taking place. 133 00:10:13,230 --> 00:10:17,310 There is an expansion of the substation fencing in the rear portion of 134 00:10:17,310 --> 00:10:21,750 the site, as well as I mentioned, some improvements with respect to 135 00:10:21,750 --> 00:10:28,770 more facilities. If I'm going to jump to this light here is this aerial picture gear. Again, 136 00:10:29,250 --> 00:10:35,870 just to get your bearings. The site is a little bit oddly shaped. So what's highlighting 137 00:10:35,870 --> 00:10:41,790 yellow here is the NEP portion of the site. So the vast majority of this substation site 138 00:10:41,790 --> 00:10:48,610 as you can see is on New England power company land. And it's oddly shaped because it in the rear, 139 00:10:48,610 --> 00:10:57,690 It butts the seven mile river so it it basically follows the midline of of the of that area 140 00:10:58,610 --> 00:11:11,510 Directly to the north is MEC owned land Massachusetts electric company land and there's a small portion in the northern part of that substation yard that you can see 141 00:11:11,510 --> 00:11:13,130 That is 142 00:11:13,130 --> 00:11:22,210 actually on the MEC land. So the substation yard itself is actually also split in terms of being mostly on the 143 00:11:22,210 --> 00:11:30,730 NEP land, but a small portion of it is also on the MEC land. Hence that's why we filed as co-oplicants between the two companies and 144 00:11:30,730 --> 00:11:34,270 yes, they are affiliates, both affiliates with national grid. 145 00:11:35,830 --> 00:11:42,830 So again, the substation yard itself, the front portion of the yard is in that commercial zone. 146 00:11:43,130 --> 00:11:56,950 And surrounding the site to the direct south is municipal owned DPW facility to the north is that MEC land, which has an operation center. 147 00:11:57,290 --> 00:11:59,370 The direct lake across the region is a hurry. 148 00:12:00,310 --> 00:12:10,110 And then again, to the rear is a sub mile river, and the site is somewhat constrained as our wetlands to the west and north. 149 00:12:12,100 --> 00:12:14,740 The next slide here just gives a street view, 150 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,220 and I'm sure most of you are more familiar with this than I am, 151 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,480 but that's basically what the site looks like 152 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,140 as you from the driveway entry point. 153 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:27,900 This color code it's slide here. 154 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,420 This red, there are the pink area here, 155 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,720 depicts the expansion of the subiation fencing, 156 00:12:37,620 --> 00:12:40,660 which is commeter with the expansion of the subation yard. 157 00:12:40,660 --> 00:13:09,240 So, as I mentioned, relatively speaking, this is side would call this a sliver, it's a small portion of land that's being expanded in order to accommodate in here which is where the new equipment is and Vivian, I don't, yes, so as shown on the plans, the darkened areas show where there are various pieces of equipment, a lot of the infrastructure there, the support structures. 158 00:13:10,660 --> 00:13:20,780 already exist. So there are however transformers, circuit breakers, however that are being replaced in kind. 159 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:33,840 And so the portion that we're showing again, this expansion of the yard, this actually, there's no equipment actually going in within this expansion portion of the substitution yard. 160 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:40,920 but it needs to be expanded anyway in order to provide clearances from the new equipment that's being installed. 161 00:13:42,060 --> 00:13:48,500 In addition to that, just to the north of the pink here, to the north of the expanded 162 00:13:48,500 --> 00:13:55,800 substation fencing, is a new infiltration basin, as well as respiratory flood storage, 163 00:13:56,180 --> 00:14:00,740 which Brendan will get into a little bit more detail in a moment. As I mentioned at the outset, 164 00:14:00,740 --> 00:14:03,820 The proportion of the site is within a flood plane. 165 00:14:04,900 --> 00:14:11,440 So part of this is in connection with that to allow for better management with a 166 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:18,760 sort of slow water and in the low chance that there might be some type of flood event 167 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:19,120 occurring. 168 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:29,000 I will point out with respect to the flood plane, the 100 year flood elevation is about 633 feet. 169 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:36,860 The equipment subsation yard is about is a little over two and a half feet above that floodplain elevation. 170 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,740 That's the hundredier flood. 171 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:41,720 Right. 172 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:53,300 So the next slide shows a little bit more detail with respect to the grading work and shows that in the 173 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:59,980 I'm going to stop there that Brendan, Brendan, you want to, to, to, to, to, to, to. 174 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:05,820 I'm sorry. Well, my name's Brendan Mauer. I'm a civil engineer with Burns and McDonald. 175 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:28,140 And we did the design here for the creating and drainage stormwater site layout, things like that. And so like Josh touched on. Part of where we're expanding the substation yard where the fence is, is bumping out is. 176 00:15:28,140 --> 00:15:36,380 technically in the hundred-year floodplain so we're filling an area within that floodplain 177 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:44,400 and to offset that or excavating in a equivalent area so that there's no loss of flood 178 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:52,640 storage and that's what's illustrated on our grading plan with the it's kind of like a dark gray 179 00:15:52,640 --> 00:16:01,610 area and then there's a table as well that explains at each elevation stage the amount of 180 00:16:02,140 --> 00:16:05,760 volume that we're filling and then the amount of volume that we're creating. 181 00:16:07,420 --> 00:16:14,010 So you can you can see that we're actually it's a net total increase in flood storage 182 00:16:15,210 --> 00:16:25,110 that we're proposing, so the other part of the grading and stormwater plan here is there 183 00:16:25,110 --> 00:16:32,530 is some minor increases in impervious coverage, some new impervious area that we create 184 00:16:32,530 --> 00:16:38,690 through our foundations for the equipment, and so we have to follow the stormwater standards 185 00:16:38,690 --> 00:16:49,550 for that. And that's what that infiltration basin is for. Just due to the way of the terrain 186 00:16:49,550 --> 00:16:56,590 out here in the substation yard, we ended up choosing to put the infiltration basin in a location 187 00:16:56,590 --> 00:17:04,930 where it would actually capture the runoff from the adjacent parking lot. That's on National 188 00:17:04,930 --> 00:17:20,330 So that we are effectively infiltrating and managing a much larger area of pavement and what we're actually creating. 189 00:17:21,830 --> 00:17:25,990 So that's why that basin is where it is. 190 00:17:28,970 --> 00:17:36,970 It was fairly straightforward, it's not a big, it's not a big watershed or a really large change in 191 00:17:37,570 --> 00:17:40,750 and land user or in per-risk coverage. 192 00:17:45,050 --> 00:17:49,410 Is there any questions that you all had about the storm water? 193 00:17:49,410 --> 00:17:57,370 I wanted to, the trace is just what I thought did that, and thankfully just the system will. 194 00:17:57,650 --> 00:17:59,230 It's just a surface piece. 195 00:17:59,770 --> 00:18:00,510 Just a basin? 196 00:18:00,790 --> 00:18:01,110 Yes. 197 00:18:01,410 --> 00:18:02,890 Yeah, it's a surface basin. 198 00:18:03,710 --> 00:18:07,610 So we're digging down a little bit and Birmingham on one side. 199 00:18:08,610 --> 00:18:12,230 And it's going to collect stormwater from, like a lot. 200 00:18:12,890 --> 00:18:13,110 Correct. 201 00:18:14,690 --> 00:18:17,890 And where's the stormwater go on that current pad? 202 00:18:18,970 --> 00:18:24,050 It drains off the edges into the floodplain and the wetlands. 203 00:18:24,330 --> 00:18:24,470 Okay. 204 00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:27,790 Does your oil spill transformers on there? 205 00:18:28,350 --> 00:18:29,350 Yes, there are. 206 00:18:29,490 --> 00:18:30,770 How do you contain your oil? 207 00:18:31,090 --> 00:18:36,190 Though, so there's an oil containment system around the transformers. 208 00:18:37,870 --> 00:18:41,530 It's a, I'll call it an engineered system. 209 00:18:41,530 --> 00:18:50,700 that has a special kind of liner that allows clean water to drain out into the ground 210 00:18:51,690 --> 00:18:57,140 and when there's oil and the water in the event of a spill that liner 211 00:18:58,050 --> 00:19:04,250 kind of solidifies and it it doesn't allow any drainage out into the ground. 212 00:19:04,910 --> 00:19:08,990 But this is around the perimeter of the existing concrete pad? 213 00:19:08,990 --> 00:19:14,290 No, I don't think. No, that is for the new transformer that's going in. 214 00:19:15,390 --> 00:19:20,850 Okay, so how does the existing equipment have transformers in oil and a system of collector? 215 00:19:24,270 --> 00:19:30,990 The existing system, I believe, is getting replaced as well. 216 00:19:31,710 --> 00:19:37,210 Okay, I guess the bottom question I have and how are you containing oil-filled transformers? 217 00:19:37,210 --> 00:19:42,110 Is it not existing now and if it's new, what are you proposing to do that with? 218 00:19:42,610 --> 00:19:43,570 How to do that? 219 00:19:44,090 --> 00:19:49,510 So I know that the new transformer has that system. 220 00:19:50,950 --> 00:19:54,390 The existing transformer that's out there. 221 00:19:54,390 --> 00:19:58,430 I believe we're proposing the same system around it. 222 00:19:59,010 --> 00:20:05,210 So when it rains, this oil, when it goes in there, and it goes on top of the water, 223 00:20:05,810 --> 00:20:07,490 And then it goes away. 224 00:20:07,910 --> 00:20:09,850 It doesn't drain out it. 225 00:20:10,130 --> 00:20:15,150 So it stays there and the alarm goes off to National Grid so they know there's a spill 226 00:20:15,150 --> 00:20:18,850 and they have to come out and pump out the oil and dispose of it. 227 00:20:19,710 --> 00:20:19,730 Okay. 228 00:20:20,170 --> 00:20:27,110 So if the major rainstorm thing fills up the water, oil sits on top, runs out over the pad 229 00:20:27,110 --> 00:20:28,390 into the wetlands? 230 00:20:28,850 --> 00:20:29,150 No. 231 00:20:29,150 --> 00:20:38,290 Now it's sized, the volume that it can hold is, I believe it's more than 100 years stormed 232 00:20:38,290 --> 00:20:39,330 depth. 233 00:20:39,810 --> 00:20:44,090 Can it hold the rainwater from 7, 25 years storm? 234 00:20:44,630 --> 00:20:44,950 Yes. 235 00:20:45,270 --> 00:20:47,470 About 7 inches of water? 236 00:20:48,490 --> 00:20:48,690 Yes. 237 00:20:49,310 --> 00:20:53,110 You have some information on that system that we can look at? 238 00:20:53,710 --> 00:20:57,970 I don't have it with me, but yeah, there are calculations that go along with that. 239 00:20:58,790 --> 00:21:03,210 myself and I believe the war and the conservation point I want to see 240 00:21:03,930 --> 00:21:09,170 all you're doing that and more information on and how it works. 241 00:21:10,470 --> 00:21:10,650 Okay. 242 00:21:11,770 --> 00:21:15,090 I think something important. 243 00:21:15,610 --> 00:21:16,610 Okay, not yet. 244 00:21:17,670 --> 00:21:20,570 What's the closest that he or this is going to come to the war? 245 00:21:22,590 --> 00:21:26,450 How do you mean the closest like the... 246 00:21:29,770 --> 00:21:34,790 Yes, so in our drawings, you can see the edge of the wetland? 247 00:21:34,950 --> 00:21:37,590 No, it doesn't have an intervention on it. 248 00:21:38,210 --> 00:21:43,450 So we're basically where that compensatory storage is. 249 00:21:43,730 --> 00:21:45,450 We're going up to the edge of the wetland. 250 00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:47,850 You're going right up to the edge? 251 00:21:48,050 --> 00:21:48,370 Correct. 252 00:21:51,190 --> 00:21:54,770 With the grading, the station is not within the wetland. 253 00:21:59,370 --> 00:22:02,650 It's on the flag well, yes. 254 00:22:04,900 --> 00:22:08,380 And Spencer, there's a 200-foot set back from the very well. 255 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:08,880 Yes. 256 00:22:09,420 --> 00:22:11,500 Sorry, Corey, it's been a national very environmentalist and 257 00:22:11,500 --> 00:22:11,980 sigma permitting. 258 00:22:12,260 --> 00:22:14,980 We have a notice of intent in front of the presentation. 259 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,800 Right now for the impacts to the 100-year flood plan and the 260 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:21,320 buffer zone. 261 00:22:21,660 --> 00:22:24,080 We studied all of this work stays outside of the 200-foot 262 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:24,840 from area. 263 00:22:25,500 --> 00:22:28,180 But the existing sub-station is already within the buffer zone. 264 00:22:28,180 --> 00:22:29,580 additional impacts are 265 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:39,020 Minimal from the expansion and the commencement mitigation. So, yes, we great up to the edge, but that's all going to be risked, like. 266 00:22:39,100 --> 00:22:54,120 Vegetated and restored. It's also in the industries to have a task. So we've got some pretty strict requirements for making sure that that remains available in festive dayters, these have a task. So everything outside of the fence will be restored to habitat value and. 267 00:22:54,120 --> 00:23:00,440 needs from our standards, that comes from mitigation and the data to restore the buffer. 268 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,800 Okay, have you presented this to conservation yet? 269 00:23:03,860 --> 00:23:05,400 Yeah, we did last week. 270 00:23:05,860 --> 00:23:08,520 We did have a DEP number assigned, so God continue to next week. 271 00:23:08,620 --> 00:23:10,320 And we have God and a DEP number now. 272 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:11,940 We also have a couple of comments from DEP. 273 00:23:12,060 --> 00:23:18,080 We need to address nothing too substantial that we won't discuss with the condition next week. 274 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,840 And then I'm going there also. 275 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:21,480 That's okay. 276 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:27,460 Any information on how this container system works at the same time? 277 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:27,800 Sure. 278 00:23:27,940 --> 00:23:29,580 I'm sure we'll be there. 279 00:23:29,660 --> 00:23:30,680 That's the same question. 280 00:23:30,820 --> 00:23:31,140 Yes. 281 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:31,940 I'm tired. 282 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,620 Come up to talk more about that, I think. 283 00:23:36,380 --> 00:23:36,440 Okay. 284 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:36,660 Okay. 285 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,640 I can speak to Dr. Sala. 286 00:23:39,060 --> 00:23:41,480 I can speak to the container system. 287 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:42,900 It's existing on the transformer. 288 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:44,980 Do you need to speak to the mic? 289 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,040 Yes, please. 290 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:46,800 Sorry. 291 00:23:48,820 --> 00:23:49,300 I 292 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:53,660 just wanted to. 293 00:23:54,420 --> 00:23:56,520 touch base on the existing transformer. 294 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,080 We're not on the other side, how's it? 295 00:24:00,420 --> 00:24:03,960 The existing transformer was built with a different 296 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:04,820 containment system. 297 00:24:05,180 --> 00:24:08,740 It is still a valid containment system that we can 298 00:24:08,740 --> 00:24:12,220 drain the oil from without the water, without the oil 299 00:24:12,220 --> 00:24:13,740 leaving the containment system. 300 00:24:13,860 --> 00:24:14,580 We do have drawings. 301 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:15,900 We can provide for what. 302 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,120 And then the new transformer has a different standard 303 00:24:19,120 --> 00:24:20,320 that we have to call. 304 00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:21,800 So. 305 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:23,840 I'm sorry. 306 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:24,000 I'm sorry. 307 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:24,380 Oh, different. 308 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:29,420 The old system is a liner and a soil system. 309 00:24:30,660 --> 00:24:33,240 So we line the base of that. 310 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:38,380 The concrete foundation gets lined with a soil that a liner. 311 00:24:38,740 --> 00:24:40,120 And that's how we used to contain it. 312 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,340 There's a specific system we use now. 313 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,820 It's based on the same principle except that we, 314 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,280 it's the seams are different when you, when you join them. 315 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:55,580 So are you going to inspect the old one at the same time? 316 00:24:56,040 --> 00:25:04,760 The problem with us taking the old transformer offline to do that, it's a lot more intensive 317 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,440 than what we had planned. 318 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:12,800 Once we do have a couple of structures adjacent to that transformer, once we open that up and 319 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:19,620 change those structures, we're going to reinforce the liner and inspect that in turn. 320 00:25:22,170 --> 00:25:27,410 So it's not a complete car free pad. There's basically holes on the transwomen's that 321 00:25:27,410 --> 00:25:28,990 earth is there. 322 00:25:31,750 --> 00:25:38,050 It's a, it's a, I don't remember this specific liner. It's a rubber line 323 00:25:38,050 --> 00:25:58,590 It's underneath a cubs the concrete and rises up and contains the volume of I think it's like 125% of the volume of oil in the transformer and it will hold everything and contain the oil a 324 00:25:58,590 --> 00:26:04,110 off of the calculations, and if I need to see more detail, because yes, we can provide the 325 00:26:04,110 --> 00:26:09,330 detail. I think it's part of 100% plus price 25 year range storm, which could be 326 00:26:09,330 --> 00:26:15,330 seven inches. This is spread out, and it's only six inches deep. Your range is going to fill 327 00:26:15,330 --> 00:26:20,590 it up and your oil is going over the edge. So I need more information, how it works. We understand 328 00:26:20,590 --> 00:26:25,470 we're following the code precisely based on what's required, we need to provide the information. 329 00:26:25,470 --> 00:26:25,810 Yeah. 330 00:26:36,050 --> 00:26:37,290 And we also have any questions. 331 00:26:43,430 --> 00:26:48,110 So the big catch base in areas basically that make up floodplain 332 00:26:48,110 --> 00:26:53,110 boil, the one in the back part, the shaded area, yeah, that's the 333 00:26:53,110 --> 00:26:57,130 correct. Okay, it's not for the loading pad, it's not for the driveway. 334 00:26:57,530 --> 00:27:00,890 That, yeah, that's just purely creating floodplain. 335 00:27:00,890 --> 00:27:02,770 Make up floodplain, boil. Correct. 336 00:27:02,970 --> 00:27:05,650 Because you're filling in with a little expansion area. 337 00:27:07,350 --> 00:27:15,430 And the tension system, there'll be a design first to look at and how it's getting there and where it's going. 338 00:27:16,270 --> 00:27:18,270 I guess the tension there is a retention. 339 00:27:19,390 --> 00:27:26,150 It is, so it retains smaller storms and then larger storms will flow out of it. 340 00:27:27,170 --> 00:27:31,790 Okay, so it's the tension, retention, then autoghost correct away. 341 00:27:33,470 --> 00:27:42,250 It overflows into that area, just adjacent to it, and then it drains to the west towards the river. 342 00:27:42,990 --> 00:27:44,250 Just overlay and flow. 343 00:27:45,210 --> 00:27:49,910 And that existing parking lot's being re-graded, so it's all pitched to that. 344 00:27:50,110 --> 00:27:52,630 No, the catch basins are what's happening. 345 00:27:53,090 --> 00:27:57,450 It drains there now, or just kind of getting in between it and the wetland. 346 00:27:59,490 --> 00:28:02,610 So that's why we located the basin where it is. 347 00:28:02,610 --> 00:28:04,610 So we'll see some drawings of all that, 348 00:28:04,910 --> 00:28:07,490 grades and details, and how it's being built. 349 00:28:08,430 --> 00:28:10,670 That's all included in this plan set, 350 00:28:10,830 --> 00:28:13,530 and there was a stormwater report as well with the calculation. 351 00:28:13,690 --> 00:28:14,710 I'll just look at this. 352 00:28:15,050 --> 00:28:17,030 So we have a post-pacancy of drawings. 353 00:28:17,490 --> 00:28:17,830 Correct. 354 00:28:18,650 --> 00:28:19,770 I didn't get that far. 355 00:28:19,890 --> 00:28:26,070 Mr. Chair, it is the grading and drainage plan in the plan set. 356 00:28:26,430 --> 00:28:28,790 Maybe maybe we can go to that. 357 00:28:30,650 --> 00:28:38,530 There's a there's a there's a grading and grading plan. There's a cross section of the site lower the idea of drawings. 358 00:28:39,190 --> 00:28:44,030 Okay. And then there's there's some details as well. 359 00:28:48,700 --> 00:28:49,840 Yeah, this is, 360 00:28:54,060 --> 00:28:58,200 but I can yeah, I can pull drawings from my computer. 361 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,840 These are the success to those. 362 00:29:08,650 --> 00:29:11,790 So I plan, general notes, 363 00:29:16,890 --> 00:29:19,190 breathing and drainage plan. That's all. 364 00:29:19,910 --> 00:29:22,690 Yes. Yeah, it's right here on the street as well. 365 00:29:23,270 --> 00:29:24,270 I think it's 366 00:29:27,090 --> 00:29:28,350 a bit better for my eyes. 367 00:29:29,730 --> 00:29:32,690 I think I can see you. 368 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,480 We just have to focus on the size of it. 369 00:29:39,340 --> 00:29:40,760 There's just a little point. 370 00:29:43,220 --> 00:29:45,660 Generally, you guys look at these already. 371 00:29:49,260 --> 00:29:49,860 I 372 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,800 have a project I hadn't seen this, so I was asking questions. 373 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,660 That's fine. I see you spill way. 374 00:30:11,300 --> 00:30:25,240 Yes, we have a, there's a stone, local berm, that's kind of our four bay pre-treatment. And then there's a, it's actually a turf free enforcement mat for the spill way. 375 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,360 So right now, all that gray goes right where you show that little 376 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:36,460 the right hand side of this drawing of what is right to the right of the filter 377 00:30:37,580 --> 00:30:42,000 berm stone berm is where the water is naturally flowing right now. 378 00:30:42,300 --> 00:30:50,720 Right, yeah, it basically the runoff from that parking lot enters the basin and like the northeast corner. 379 00:30:53,860 --> 00:30:57,500 And you're building up the berm at a 637 elevation. 380 00:30:57,500 --> 00:30:59,740 So it gets in there correct. 381 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,140 So basically it's going to run through there, run through the stone, fill the berm 382 00:31:13,140 --> 00:31:16,960 after heavy storm. We just got to write out the spill way. 383 00:31:17,220 --> 00:31:18,700 Let's go in now. 384 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:19,880 Exactly. 385 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,440 The smallest storms I'll sit in there and soak in. 386 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:25,780 And pull straight correct. 387 00:31:26,140 --> 00:31:29,880 Do we know the impervious that ground is it? Does it matter? 388 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:36,640 Yes. In the storm water report, there's, there's a lot of soil data with, I think they 389 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,880 Doug some test peds and did infiltration testing found the seasonal high water elevation 390 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:49,600 classified the soils so it's all it's all it's all sized based on that investigation. 391 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:55,160 So it has ground water levels that are current or that normal high ground water, 392 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,500 high ground water levels that never report. Yeah they determined those. 393 00:31:59,500 --> 00:32:04,500 You know if I have an idea if there's six hundred and six hundred and six hundred 394 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:06,840 I 395 00:32:15,670 --> 00:32:22,750 can pull the report off my computer to confirm, but it just just the information be nice to have I know 396 00:32:22,750 --> 00:32:26,510 I know it was generally right around the elevation of the wetlands, which is 397 00:32:27,850 --> 00:32:29,630 I think that was like 398 00:32:31,070 --> 00:32:31,670 631 399 00:32:33,570 --> 00:32:35,890 And we're up around 635 400 00:32:35,890 --> 00:32:36,390 five, 401 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:44,300 I'll sit there to find the word overflows, you know, the water is, is it a foot 402 00:32:44,300 --> 00:32:53,100 below grade or five feet below grade? It's, I think it's more than that, even. Well, I'm 403 00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:57,840 going to look at how much volume is available in the earth before his groundwater, because 404 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:03,680 that's not going to go the way. The groundwater is, it's at least two feet, season all high 405 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,560 water is at least two feet below the bottom of the basin. 406 00:33:10,610 --> 00:33:12,390 So it's not going to fill up for the ground water. 407 00:33:29,460 --> 00:33:38,120 And these drawings show anything on the transformers that are there and how the oil spill would go wherever it goes. 408 00:33:40,290 --> 00:33:42,430 Not in the set of drawings, no. 409 00:33:56,010 --> 00:33:57,810 We have great ink last section. 410 00:33:57,970 --> 00:33:59,430 It's been way of something on that. 411 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,920 I found you, I didn't get a chance of it before me. 412 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,960 I'll put it please. 413 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:34,960 When do we get these? 414 00:34:35,860 --> 00:34:38,800 Um, in August, I believe? 415 00:34:39,720 --> 00:34:41,820 They were sent to us, I must have missed that. 416 00:34:41,820 --> 00:34:47,720 Yeah, they were, they've been on the website for, since we got the application. 417 00:35:07,010 --> 00:35:08,710 It's the endows and settlement. 418 00:35:10,530 --> 00:35:10,610 Sorry. 419 00:35:16,510 --> 00:35:18,610 Just to bring this one to the conservation. 420 00:35:36,190 --> 00:35:40,590 When do you guys find on this project yesterday? 421 00:35:41,110 --> 00:35:42,090 Last month. 422 00:35:42,530 --> 00:35:44,230 Pretty much yesterday, Mr. Chair. 423 00:35:44,550 --> 00:35:52,010 This is this project is among a number of other projects. 424 00:35:55,490 --> 00:36:09,910 So the suite of projects that are all looking to commence within months, the last slide if we go back to the slide deck gives a schedule with respect to the work. 425 00:36:10,450 --> 00:36:14,730 We're looking to get permits in hand, including these permits. 426 00:36:15,030 --> 00:36:18,330 We also need to, as was mentioned before in the conservation commission. 427 00:36:18,330 --> 00:36:29,210 In addition to that, we also have it here in scheduled for the ZBA, so we're looking to wrap all of that up within the coming months. 428 00:36:29,710 --> 00:36:36,450 So fall of this year, construction commencement, we're looking to commence towards the end of the calendar year. 429 00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:45,910 But of course, a lot of all needs to happen with these unique types of projects in advance of actual commencement. 430 00:36:45,910 --> 00:36:51,090 And so we're really hoping to get our discretionary permits in hand as soon as possible. 431 00:37:01,850 --> 00:37:02,790 Just a moment. 432 00:37:03,210 --> 00:37:04,490 No one else in a board has questions. 433 00:37:04,810 --> 00:37:05,870 Open up to the public. 434 00:37:06,570 --> 00:37:06,630 Open. 435 00:37:07,250 --> 00:37:07,390 Board. 436 00:37:10,150 --> 00:37:10,470 Um. 437 00:37:11,710 --> 00:37:12,730 And they put in a room. 438 00:37:13,330 --> 00:37:14,470 The comments on this question. 439 00:37:19,010 --> 00:37:19,450 You can say. 440 00:37:20,510 --> 00:37:20,950 Okay. 441 00:37:22,390 --> 00:37:23,730 I'm at the folks you pause, right? 442 00:37:24,450 --> 00:37:28,070 Um, I just, if I go in the wrong direction, please read the red me. 443 00:37:28,070 --> 00:37:29,970 but last time in the July 20th. 444 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:57,180 Yes, that was an odd meeting. No, no, it was in a different meeting, but the poll project has some significance in this project. Is that correct? Mr. Chair, can I just ask? What address are you? 7, Paul's right? 7, Paul's correct? Are you in a butter to the substation? 445 00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,880 I'm not, I'm a 20-year Spencer resident. 446 00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,300 And you'll understand the reason I'm asking the question. 447 00:38:04,700 --> 00:38:06,720 You answered the question I was going to ask, 448 00:38:07,180 --> 00:38:09,580 because at that meeting, and you'll understand why I'm asking 449 00:38:09,580 --> 00:38:12,980 at that meeting, I'm not sure if the minutes were published 450 00:38:13,460 --> 00:38:16,200 recently, but the last time I checked for the meeting minutes 451 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,480 on that date, they were not published. 452 00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:21,620 So that's why I'm asking the question this time. 453 00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:27,160 It was stated that the situation had not been updated since 1998. 454 00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,620 And you basically, and from that, whether it's 98-95, whatever. 455 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,260 And you'll understand my curiosity. 456 00:38:34,340 --> 00:38:36,720 I was under full of bylaw committee and I'm kind of curious, 457 00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:41,200 because I believe the McCormick Road Solar Project 458 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,800 was brought to that substation. 459 00:38:44,580 --> 00:38:48,280 And my concern is the substation didn't have to be updated 460 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:53,020 when they plugged in the power from the McCormick Road Solar. 461 00:38:53,020 --> 00:38:58,660 Mr. Chair, I'm not, I'm at a loss with what, is this an active project that's happening in the town? 462 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,500 So for you, it's done. 463 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,260 But it needed, it was routed down to the substation. 464 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,600 And I'm just kind of curious if you said in the 90s, 465 00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:09,580 it hasn't been updated. 466 00:39:10,060 --> 00:39:10,560 It's surprised. 467 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,780 I'm curious because it surprised me that if you plug something like that into it. 468 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:15,640 You can speak. 469 00:39:16,180 --> 00:39:16,740 That's surprised. 470 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:17,840 This is the curiosity. 471 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:18,680 Yes. 472 00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:29,520 So I'll answer that in the general terms, so when we build substations, there's generally excess capacity available. 473 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:36,620 So if the station applies to us to interconnect and there's that capacity available, there would not have been a need to help through the substation. 474 00:39:37,140 --> 00:39:37,220 Okay. 475 00:39:37,220 --> 00:39:39,940 Now the substations that capacity, so we need to do so. 476 00:39:48,660 --> 00:39:54,800 and has been updated since 98, but the flag wouldn't meet to say, Jesus, you put it all 477 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,800 that in, and there's no update, modern technology and so forth, which I was concerned 478 00:39:58,800 --> 00:39:59,200 with, that's all. 479 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,780 Yeah, you just like build a new question. 480 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,000 And we're into that question, so we need to, too. 481 00:40:05,140 --> 00:40:06,560 Okay, thank you for clarifying that. 482 00:40:06,620 --> 00:40:07,980 I hope you understand why I'm asking you one. 483 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:14,160 I want to thank the Board for asking a relevant questions, Ted, I think, help protect 484 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:14,860 that town. 485 00:40:15,020 --> 00:40:16,800 A lot of the stuff, I don't know anything about. 486 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:28,000 I'm a resident, I just like to know what's going on in town and I'm curious about the issues and I'll just make one comment in regards to this project and you guys know it 487 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:37,000 The town only has two wells and one of them is in the back there, so I'm sure you know what I just want to point that out and if you guys weren't aware of that that you know so thank you 488 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:37,920 Thank you for your attention. 489 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,100 Thanks, Beth. 490 00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,420 We have a talk, we want to think. 491 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,780 We added a feeder a couple of years ago to this 492 00:40:46,660 --> 00:40:51,500 substation, who did a feeder that connects to the town of Spencer 493 00:40:51,500 --> 00:40:52,760 so a year ago. 494 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,700 There have been upgrades, oh sorry, 495 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,420 the substation is here and we're not so good. 496 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,080 So, Mattel, who's on? 497 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,960 That's it, okay, yeah. 498 00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:10,460 And when I was in a room, I have any questions in this project. 499 00:41:11,660 --> 00:41:14,220 Anybody online, have any questions or comments? 500 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,400 Obviously you have to go to the conservation next. 501 00:41:34,540 --> 00:41:39,580 So I think we should continue this for this our next meeting. 502 00:41:39,780 --> 00:41:49,480 And the meantime, get me information or our information on how the 503 00:41:50,940 --> 00:41:55,120 So that we can feel comfortable with the oil is not going to end up in the wetlands or the 504 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,160 town of Well. 505 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,960 And it's good information to have help us make a decision and make sure you guys do 506 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:07,720 what you need to do so that you are containing the oil, the oil, the oil, the oil has 507 00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:09,080 that I see there. 508 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:13,120 A lot of more time, look at these, 509 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:16,500 that makes sense. 510 00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:18,240 I know you're wondering, Dante, everybody does. 511 00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:23,980 But yeah, Mr. Chair, to be honest, we are hopeful that this would be done this evening. 512 00:42:23,980 --> 00:42:26,980 And this is a great straightforward project. 513 00:42:27,020 --> 00:42:30,140 The equipment we're talking about is replacement equipment. 514 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,660 The transformer containment system, whatever exists 515 00:42:34,660 --> 00:42:39,570 not there today, is what's going to be replaced with 516 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,860 is in accordance with national electric safety code. 517 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:48,780 And exists in the thousands upon thousands of unmanned 518 00:42:48,780 --> 00:42:50,580 substations throughout the Commonwealth. 519 00:42:50,580 --> 00:42:54,040 The system we can show us. 520 00:42:54,340 --> 00:42:54,500 Yes. 521 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:56,960 We can show you. 522 00:42:57,060 --> 00:42:57,300 All right. 523 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,320 That's what I'd like to see. 524 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:00,240 That works. 525 00:43:03,150 --> 00:43:04,150 I don't know what else I'm at. 526 00:43:04,470 --> 00:43:07,570 I think that of the project it is pretty straightforward. 527 00:43:08,190 --> 00:43:10,010 I don't know if they made your problems other than that. 528 00:43:10,210 --> 00:43:12,270 Potential contamination problem. 529 00:43:12,450 --> 00:43:15,230 I mean basically it was. 530 00:43:15,250 --> 00:43:17,950 We certainly could provide the information and we will. 531 00:43:18,750 --> 00:43:26,490 It was explained by both of our engineers that it's a containment system that provides 532 00:43:26,490 --> 00:43:31,850 a containment with respect to the oil plus capacity in terms of, as you mentioned, if there's 533 00:43:32,370 --> 00:43:32,910 a hundred-year. 534 00:43:33,570 --> 00:43:39,330 My back storm is a petroleum business of thirty-something years, the containment systems and 535 00:43:39,330 --> 00:43:39,610 everything. 536 00:43:40,630 --> 00:43:42,690 So I want to see something that I know worked. 537 00:43:47,900 --> 00:43:50,380 So if it's a great system, I'm sure it is. 538 00:43:50,380 --> 00:43:51,780 I just want to see it. 539 00:43:51,860 --> 00:43:54,800 You got all the equipment there, that's been replaced with new, 540 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,880 I don't even know if the old stuff is reasonably safe the way it is. 541 00:44:00,060 --> 00:44:00,320 We do it. 542 00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,620 It's put in there, so it doesn't have an accident. 543 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,720 They have an anti-accent, so that's good. 544 00:44:04,980 --> 00:44:10,670 Just a little else any comments or a comment. 545 00:44:10,730 --> 00:44:14,710 No, I just think some shop drawings would be good. 546 00:44:16,490 --> 00:44:18,270 We certainly have those. 547 00:44:19,130 --> 00:44:19,430 That's it. 548 00:44:19,550 --> 00:44:21,930 Had we known, we would have brought that with us today. 549 00:44:21,930 --> 00:44:27,530 And basically it's a drawing that this shows exactly what was described here. 550 00:44:29,250 --> 00:44:30,110 I do have one question. 551 00:44:30,890 --> 00:44:40,450 So the existing that you have when you guys start to replace that is there going to be any major disruption to the system that you have underneath. 552 00:44:41,250 --> 00:44:45,450 I just want to kind of understand what the potentials are as you're changing these. 553 00:44:45,530 --> 00:44:47,750 What could happen to the existing system? 554 00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:53,590 I know that somebody had mentioned you guys, but I wouldn't expect it, but will it disrupt anything when you guys are doing that? 555 00:44:53,750 --> 00:44:55,350 When you say a system, are you talking about it? 556 00:44:55,350 --> 00:44:59,440 The truth, the truth, the place is it. 557 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,140 It's a political agreement system. Will it, will it, will it don't oil containment system? Will it do just drop anything? 558 00:45:10,700 --> 00:45:17,940 It shouldn't. It's a, it's a, it's a below grade system. So if, if they did, 559 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:29,680 after, you know, maybe like, add a conduit or something like that, they would, they would do it and repair the liner as part of that work. 560 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:29,940 Okay, 561 00:45:39,020 --> 00:45:41,800 to the chair or end or Vivian, 562 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,280 when is the next available planning board meeting? 563 00:45:44,500 --> 00:45:45,900 October 20th. 564 00:45:46,020 --> 00:45:49,040 So that's gonna be one week after the ZBA hearing. 565 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:49,620 Thank you guys. 566 00:45:49,820 --> 00:45:50,200 We'll be at. 567 00:45:51,300 --> 00:45:51,500 Okay. 568 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,880 Is there an application after us? 569 00:45:55,060 --> 00:45:56,960 I mean, we have computers. 570 00:45:57,980 --> 00:46:01,000 We can, we can try to pull up those oil containment drawing. 571 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,040 Mr. Chair, we can, we can show you right now. 572 00:46:06,660 --> 00:46:08,100 We can, again, access to our files. 573 00:46:08,100 --> 00:46:09,440 we could show you right now. 574 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,140 Oh, we need time to look at them. 575 00:46:11,500 --> 00:46:12,600 I'm not going to do it on a spot. 576 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:14,300 I agree. 577 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,720 Well, so I stuff that submitted, like you did it, 578 00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:18,580 all I guess that was great, or triage, 579 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:19,340 is no sale. 580 00:46:21,060 --> 00:46:23,480 So I need some time to look at. 581 00:46:26,260 --> 00:46:26,480 OK. 582 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,420 Vivi, you said, October 20, 20, it's on October 20. 583 00:46:38,780 --> 00:46:39,540 Thanks, Pia. 584 00:46:40,100 --> 00:46:42,500 You could just sign the continuous formula for you. 585 00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:44,260 Yeah. 586 00:46:44,260 --> 00:46:46,820 We've got to let's go to other 587 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,020 pounds with this type of information. 588 00:46:50,060 --> 00:46:52,160 You'd have to bring them into payment information. 589 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,000 I'll show it to them at a time. 590 00:46:54,600 --> 00:47:00,000 Very rarely, because it is, it is routine equipment. 591 00:47:02,420 --> 00:47:06,560 And it's, it's a mineral oil to be clear. 592 00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:09,160 Oil, oil is like oil. 593 00:47:09,340 --> 00:47:13,720 What is not, it's not like petroleum, not petroleum, yes. 594 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,740 It's like a carousine, a lot of quite dead, you look at 595 00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:22,460 what, how long you'd be adjusting 596 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:26,380 the trans someone's that are in there now and when did they go in? 597 00:47:28,980 --> 00:47:32,540 I don't know how long those people in there, they're adjusting the trans ones. 598 00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:35,740 I don't have an exact answer how long you'd be adjusting trans ones. 599 00:47:35,860 --> 00:47:37,120 When did they get installed? 600 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:38,140 I don't know. 601 00:47:38,620 --> 00:47:39,240 I don't know. 602 00:47:40,620 --> 00:47:42,520 They're all PCPs in there, 603 00:47:46,470 --> 00:47:46,950 we don't know. 604 00:47:47,970 --> 00:47:48,190 Yeah. 605 00:47:48,830 --> 00:47:50,330 What's in there besides doing it? 606 00:47:50,330 --> 00:47:59,390 You know, there's a big issue, what can you be with transformers a while back, depending on their age, they're going to have those in the oil. 607 00:48:00,270 --> 00:48:02,810 That's also a contaminant beside the oil. 608 00:48:03,790 --> 00:48:06,010 We don't want to get an answer there and see what's going on. 609 00:48:06,510 --> 00:48:11,270 If they're more recent, they won't be in there, but if it's old, then it could be. 610 00:48:11,650 --> 00:48:16,770 So that's got to be looked at when you remove them, they're not going to be spilled on any oils. 611 00:48:18,810 --> 00:48:25,130 We've made a concerted after overtime and I can't speak today to these transformers to remove the PCV transformers 612 00:48:25,750 --> 00:48:29,150 So I'd be surprised if they were still there, but we'll verify the date. 613 00:48:29,310 --> 00:48:30,870 Yeah, that's what we need to find out. 614 00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:31,190 All right. 615 00:48:31,290 --> 00:48:31,550 The signal. 616 00:48:32,170 --> 00:48:32,510 Yeah. 617 00:48:32,510 --> 00:48:33,690 There'll be extra caution. 618 00:48:34,130 --> 00:48:34,650 Yes. 619 00:48:34,810 --> 00:48:35,330 Okay. 620 00:48:35,330 --> 00:48:36,070 Nothing for. 621 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:42,040 All right. 622 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,020 So I think we'll look for a motion to continue. 623 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,120 Can we continue this to the 20th? 624 00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:50,300 I'll go. 625 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,560 Thank you. 626 00:48:57,500 --> 00:48:58,900 Jolly. 627 00:49:00,820 --> 00:49:01,740 Jolly. 628 00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:03,260 Jewell. 629 00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:05,460 Jolly. 630 00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:06,700 Thank you. 631 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:07,440 Thank you. 632 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,120 I'll have you. 633 00:49:44,420 --> 00:49:47,460 I just have the continuous form. 634 00:49:47,900 --> 00:49:48,040 Yes. 635 00:49:48,180 --> 00:49:49,580 Thank you. 636 00:49:50,180 --> 00:49:50,600 Thank you. 637 00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:54,640 Thank you. 638 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:55,280 Thank you. 639 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:55,600 One year. 640 00:49:56,900 --> 00:49:57,580 All right. 641 00:49:58,220 --> 00:49:59,880 I can't find my. 642 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,600 I'm going to be very nervous. 643 00:50:03,620 --> 00:50:03,800 I. 644 00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:06,300 I. 645 00:50:06,300 --> 00:50:06,420 George. 646 00:50:07,100 --> 00:50:07,500 Okay. 647 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:15,820 Moving on. 648 00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:22,860 And we'll find discussion in action, 46 greenville streets don't want to pollute your 649 00:50:22,860 --> 00:50:24,280 intervention plan. 650 00:50:25,540 --> 00:50:26,380 So where are we out on that? 651 00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:28,460 All right. 652 00:50:29,140 --> 00:50:38,200 So this was for the cell tower at 46 greenville street that was approved last June in 2025. 653 00:50:39,620 --> 00:50:44,980 And one of the conditions on that decision required the stormwater pollution prevention plan to be submitted. 654 00:50:44,980 --> 00:50:52,820 And the original plan that was sent to the board had a few errors in the lot size and lot 655 00:50:52,820 --> 00:51:01,260 disturbance, so they submitted a new one where they corrected those errors and then it 656 00:51:01,260 --> 00:51:07,460 was sent to BSE for peer review and dominant from BSE didn't have any comments aside from 657 00:51:07,460 --> 00:51:13,000 making sure that they attach the appendix from the plan that was submitted originally. 658 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:32,380 So I just asked him to send me a version that has the appendix and other than that I added the email from Dominic to your packet because he didn't we didn't get a formal peer review comment on that, but that was just him saying that it looked good to go. 659 00:51:32,380 --> 00:51:47,500 So if the board finds it acceptable, we'll just need to make a finding that stormwater pollution prevention plan satisfies that condition and then I can write up a memo for the building inspector. 660 00:51:49,290 --> 00:51:53,630 You said Dominic's comments are in here? 661 00:51:54,170 --> 00:51:56,510 Yeah, I put it next to your packet. 662 00:51:56,670 --> 00:51:57,630 This is an email. 663 00:51:59,330 --> 00:52:00,710 Here, I have a copy too. 664 00:52:00,830 --> 00:52:01,770 No, I go in somewhere. 665 00:52:02,490 --> 00:52:03,110 Let's see it. 666 00:52:07,140 --> 00:52:07,660 I'm done. 667 00:52:10,420 --> 00:52:10,940 I 668 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:22,920 just have one question. 669 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,540 Do we need conservation aground and inspect erosion controls? 670 00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:29,980 So that wasn't over. 671 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:37,460 The requirement in the decision, but I think that it would be a good idea to ask them if they could add that to their inspections. 672 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,780 Yeah, because that would be good at that. 673 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:49,120 Yeah, and that one was right outside of conservation jurisdiction. They had moved it, yeah, right to the edge of the buffer. 674 00:52:49,460 --> 00:52:50,800 So that would be good to have them go out. 675 00:52:51,420 --> 00:52:54,620 You know, it would flow into the violence. 676 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:06,180 So that we have to wait for conservation to do that thing or 677 00:53:06,180 --> 00:53:11,200 No, so we can say it's okay based on Dominic's. 678 00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,300 And that wasn't the final inspection. 679 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,220 That was just the inspection of the erosion controls 680 00:53:18,220 --> 00:53:20,100 before they start the production. 681 00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:25,160 So yeah, I can talk to Sam, the conservation agent, 682 00:53:25,940 --> 00:53:26,940 she's not an intel Monday, 683 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,620 but I can ask her to add that to the conservation site, 684 00:53:30,620 --> 00:53:33,180 as it's once they have their erosion controls up. 685 00:53:39,870 --> 00:53:44,190 So, what action we have to now just recommend to 686 00:53:44,190 --> 00:53:45,950 alert it to the bill inspector? 687 00:53:46,730 --> 00:53:52,170 Make me make a motion that you find the stormwater pollution prevention plan acceptable. 688 00:53:53,270 --> 00:53:59,030 And that satisfies condition number 31. 689 00:53:59,730 --> 00:54:01,970 Yeah, and this is number 31 from the decision. 690 00:54:03,410 --> 00:54:05,530 So, so I'll make a motion to 691 00:54:05,530 --> 00:54:16,710 We'll approve the SPU GP, I'm 31 and I'm on the previous approval decision, that's 692 00:54:16,710 --> 00:54:17,170 right. 693 00:54:18,850 --> 00:54:19,650 Okay. 694 00:54:20,850 --> 00:54:21,190 Second. 695 00:54:22,790 --> 00:54:24,130 Roku, Gina. 696 00:54:24,310 --> 00:54:24,570 Hi. 697 00:54:24,750 --> 00:54:25,050 Charlie. 698 00:54:25,270 --> 00:54:25,490 Hi. 699 00:54:25,650 --> 00:54:25,950 Charlie. 700 00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:28,150 Well done, 701 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:34,200 Ellen. 702 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:34,860 Yeah. 703 00:54:35,260 --> 00:54:36,140 Thank you. 704 00:54:36,860 --> 00:54:38,360 Item six discussion. 705 00:54:38,500 --> 00:54:39,440 Data Center. 706 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:40,480 One more. 707 00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:45,960 and more auditorium and zoning by who's talking about that. 708 00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,140 Yeah, so this one, town council is working on preparing a 709 00:54:50,140 --> 00:54:54,340 moratorium. So once we have that, we'll have to do a formal public hearing with 710 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,860 advertisement. So this is just I just wanted to touch base with you all on this. 711 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:10,460 But the Board of Selectmen would like to have a moratorium on data centers on the 712 00:55:10,460 --> 00:55:16,920 on preparing a data center by law, so as part of the zoning by law review, we've asked the consultant 713 00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:25,220 to incorporate that into it. But for the moratorium, they're looking to put a hold on data centers, 714 00:55:25,720 --> 00:55:30,560 so that the town has time to prepare a by law because right now we have nothing in place that's 715 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:38,300 regulating data centers where they can be, how big they can be. So the moratorium will just give us 716 00:55:38,300 --> 00:55:40,460 I'm going to make sure we're not caught unprepared. 717 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,140 And for late to this governor, Haley, I don't know if you've seen, 718 00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:50,140 but she just signed an executive order last week that, yes, 719 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:53,040 that requires proposed data centers to get local approval 720 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:54,840 before they can get their state permits. 721 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:57,080 That's very big. 722 00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:58,060 Yes. 723 00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,260 Yes, it is. 724 00:56:00,780 --> 00:56:02,320 A political rule? 725 00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:03,320 Mm-hmm. 726 00:56:04,620 --> 00:56:08,160 Nobody's ready for this, including the state 727 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:18,160 Well, but I don't think I won't make any more comments, but I think they have any recommended 728 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,720 as he leaves office, have any recommended. 729 00:56:23,540 --> 00:56:23,680 Okay. 730 00:56:24,500 --> 00:56:31,040 Yeah, they don't have any samples or recommendations, but there have been a few other towns that 731 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:36,200 have already passed moratoriums, and then a lot of other ones that are exploring doing it 732 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:40,120 Right now, so we'll have some examples from other people to look at. 733 00:56:40,220 --> 00:56:41,880 We have the attorneys done that, so that's real. 734 00:56:41,900 --> 00:56:45,200 I meant to need draft, you know, any recommended draft? 735 00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:47,760 No, not yet. 736 00:56:48,620 --> 00:56:48,820 Okay. 737 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:53,400 I think I think we need to, um, you know, 738 00:56:53,900 --> 00:56:55,240 get a more dormant place. 739 00:56:55,720 --> 00:56:55,740 Definitely. 740 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:56,640 Absolutely. 741 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,200 We have enough time before timing to do this. 742 00:57:00,340 --> 00:57:00,840 Probably. 743 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,240 So we need a special meeting. 744 00:57:03,380 --> 00:57:04,340 Yeah, that's fine. 745 00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:06,400 Just for the public hearing. 746 00:57:08,620 --> 00:57:11,100 I should hopefully hope to strategy. 747 00:57:12,780 --> 00:57:15,380 By the end of the week, you have a more torn language, 748 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:18,600 and we're drafting the warrant this week. 749 00:57:19,740 --> 00:57:21,500 So hopefully we can have it to you next week. 750 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:22,340 You can work it. 751 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,080 If you can time into your October 20th meeting, 752 00:57:25,260 --> 00:57:26,220 I don't know. 753 00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:27,320 That's enough time. 754 00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:30,600 It should be enough time between men and tummy 15 days. 755 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,740 I would like to check the town council how much time needed between. 756 00:57:33,740 --> 00:57:37,100 in publication dates, so the sooner the better. 757 00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:38,020 Okay, agreed. 758 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,880 I'm going to add a discussion on the topic. 759 00:57:46,050 --> 00:57:47,310 Next item is discussion. 760 00:57:48,310 --> 00:57:49,890 What is zoning by law? 761 00:57:50,170 --> 00:57:52,210 A amendment staring committee member? 762 00:57:54,510 --> 00:57:59,270 Yes, so we, the town has contracted with the firm community scale, 763 00:57:59,910 --> 00:58:02,030 for the zoning by law review and update project. 764 00:58:02,890 --> 00:58:06,630 And to lead this project, we're going to be assembling an ad hoc committee. 765 00:58:06,630 --> 00:58:09,890 made up of representatives from the various boards and committees. 766 00:58:11,930 --> 00:58:18,590 So I was hoping that we could get a planning board member on there where you're one of the boards that works closest with the zoning bylaws. 767 00:58:18,810 --> 00:58:29,670 So you all have some of the most experience with how any issues in the permitting process, any suggested recommendations. 768 00:58:31,210 --> 00:58:35,830 And for the time commitment for this, they'll be meeting on an as needed basis once we get 769 00:58:36,510 --> 00:58:49,450 deliverables from the consultant draft suggestions and then there's going to be two public meetings that community scale is going to be leading and the steering committee members would be encouraged to attend those meetings. 770 00:58:49,910 --> 00:59:00,850 The first one, I can talk about this more in my report, but we're looking to do a joint meeting on October 7 with the Planning Board Board of Selectmen zoning board and conservation commission. 771 00:59:00,850 --> 00:59:05,850 question about that because if I would volunteer, we have an EDC meeting that day. 772 00:59:06,550 --> 00:59:16,750 Yes, I was going to talk about this that are meeting tomorrow because we're meeting tomorrow, 773 00:59:16,930 --> 00:59:23,510 the next meeting, if we keep doing the first Wednesday, the month would only be two weeks apart. 774 00:59:23,510 --> 00:59:32,510 So I was going to see if people wanted to reschedule the October meeting and then just have that be coming to 775 00:59:33,230 --> 00:59:36,770 Coming to the public meeting for the zoning by-law review. 776 00:59:38,630 --> 00:59:39,370 I'm talking 777 00:59:41,420 --> 00:59:44,700 October 7th to have a meeting about what? 778 00:59:45,220 --> 00:59:48,180 The zoning by-law and some division regulations. 779 00:59:48,340 --> 00:59:49,880 Wait, that week for a conference. 780 00:59:51,660 --> 00:59:54,420 Okay, I'll be sending out a link to you all tomorrow. 781 00:59:55,340 --> 00:59:59,880 that community scale uploaded the zoning by law, subdivision rigs, and the zoning. 782 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:21,520 And then you can go through and highlight specific sections of the zoning by-law and leave comments. And then you can leave pinpoint comments on the zoning map, which I actually have it on my computer here. So I can put up. And just show you how to, you can leave comments that way if you're not able to attend the meeting. 783 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:30,140 So yeah, this is the website you can view the zoning by-law here and then on the side you 784 01:00:30,140 --> 01:00:34,820 just click comment and then you can type your comment and then that's just going to go straight 785 01:00:34,820 --> 01:00:41,040 to the consulting team and then the map is 786 01:00:45,300 --> 01:00:49,180 right here so then you can click comment 787 01:00:49,180 --> 01:00:56,100 on a place and then pick any location and then add your comment there. 788 01:00:56,100 --> 01:00:58,860 So I'll be sending that out to everyone tomorrow morning 789 01:01:03,340 --> 01:01:07,260 and then the second public meeting is still to be determined 790 01:01:07,260 --> 01:01:15,760 But that'll most likely be after we get the first set of proposed changes from the consultants and then we'll have a meeting to get feedback from the community 791 01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:19,420 So I need a wall to yes 792 01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:21,960 I don't 793 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:25,160 want to 794 01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:30,160 Kind of the time 795 01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,300 I have too much of a workflow 796 01:01:36,300 --> 01:01:37,080 I can't. 797 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:37,680 All right. 798 01:01:37,940 --> 01:01:40,420 The girls had to give it the vibe because it wasn't here. 799 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:43,600 Okay, good. 800 01:01:43,980 --> 01:01:45,000 Thank you, Gina. 801 01:01:46,340 --> 01:01:47,380 Thank you. 802 01:01:48,100 --> 01:01:49,660 Anything you want me to bring up? 803 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:54,400 A little ease on it. 804 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,020 I'll put it on me. 805 01:01:57,860 --> 01:01:58,260 And then. 806 01:01:59,980 --> 01:02:00,500 Okay. 807 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,080 All set on that now? 808 01:02:03,260 --> 01:02:03,680 Yes. 809 01:02:05,660 --> 01:02:11,280 Next item is plan board revolving the count, the numberage press, and voice approval. 810 01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:19,600 So we need to approve an invoice for $147 for some advertising. 811 01:02:20,980 --> 01:02:24,380 Yeah, I believe that was the national grid hearing that we just had. 812 01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:30,160 Those are just the new leader advertisements. 813 01:02:31,380 --> 01:02:34,280 So I have a motion to pay this bill. 814 01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,180 So move to pay the salvage press call. 815 01:02:37,900 --> 01:02:38,920 A second there. 816 01:02:39,660 --> 01:02:40,500 All call, Jenna. 817 01:02:41,980 --> 01:02:42,200 Sorry. 818 01:02:42,900 --> 01:02:44,760 I'll tell you about 819 01:02:51,230 --> 01:02:51,890 the boss. 820 01:02:58,460 --> 01:03:01,360 Channel board discussion board liaison reports. 821 01:03:01,820 --> 01:03:02,860 By what I think. 822 01:03:03,700 --> 01:03:04,980 You know, I don't have news. 823 01:03:06,740 --> 01:03:07,040 No. 824 01:03:07,460 --> 01:03:07,740 No. 825 01:03:12,220 --> 01:03:12,900 Okay. 826 01:03:14,660 --> 01:03:16,700 I don't plan every four new business. 827 01:03:18,020 --> 01:03:21,640 So the next meeting is going to be October 20th at 6 p.m. 828 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:25,800 We have the two William KC applications that were continued in the National 829 01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:29,380 Great Application and aside from that we don't have any new applications. 830 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,020 We might still get some ANRs by then. 831 01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:33,620 I don't know. 832 01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:46,560 And then we do have the 2027 meeting schedule, so if you want to 833 01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:50,640 Yes, yeah, no changes to that third Tuesday of every month. That's 6pm. 834 01:03:52,780 --> 01:03:55,260 I'm just making a note to send you all that tomorrow morning 835 01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:58,900 What time is the meeting for this? 836 01:03:59,540 --> 01:04:00,760 That's going to get six 837 01:04:03,380 --> 01:04:09,880 and then as we're talking about with the zoning by law review and update the joint meeting on October 7th 838 01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,880 So yeah, that'll just be an opportunity to share your recommendations and 839 01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:20,180 I will send you a link to the website to comment on the zoning by law 840 01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:50,020 And community scale is still in the process of looking over all of the town's previous planning documents like the master plan, the town center design guidelines, and they've also been looking through the planning board and zoning board minutes to see what kinds of projects have been approved every single time to identify different uses that could be allowed by right or, for example, the zoning board if they're always approving a certain type of variance. 841 01:04:50,020 --> 01:04:52,940 if maybe we could allow that in the zoning by-law. 842 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,400 So we are making some steady progress on that. 843 01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:59,240 And hopefully once we have the meeting on October 7th, 844 01:04:59,460 --> 01:05:01,580 we'll get a lot of good feedback from all the boards. 845 01:05:02,060 --> 01:05:05,940 And then we're going to be opening that up to public comment as well. 846 01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:11,160 And fall-town meeting is November 5th at 7 p.m. 847 01:05:13,740 --> 01:05:18,040 And the economic development committee is going to be meeting tomorrow at 6 p.m. 848 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,440 They are currently working on serving business owners. 849 01:05:22,900 --> 01:05:27,080 We've only gotten a few responses so far, but we're trying to get some more. 850 01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:36,840 And the survey were hoping that we can get some responses so that we can use it in the zoning by law review. 851 01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:45,040 And see if business owners have any, if there are any regulatory requirements that were, 852 01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:49,200 making it more difficult for them to open their business in Spencer. 853 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:58,100 And they've also been working on creating some ideas for welcome signs for Spencer, 854 01:05:59,300 --> 01:06:00,700 which has been exciting. 855 01:06:00,980 --> 01:06:02,360 So we're going to be talking about that tomorrow. 856 01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:05,540 No official plan. 857 01:06:05,780 --> 01:06:09,480 We're just trying to get the ball rolling on getting some more signage. 858 01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:16,520 And for MVP 2.0, we're in the community engagement step of the process. 859 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:24,860 So the core team, as they call it, is going to a bunch of different community events over the next two months. 860 01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:33,580 And we're going to try to talk to as many people as possible about their experiences living in Spencer and how they've been impacted by severe weather events. 861 01:06:34,060 --> 01:06:37,060 Like droughts, extreme heat, severe storms. 862 01:06:43,940 --> 01:06:56,060 So we're still working on that, but we're about halfway through the MVP process, which is exciting, and aside from that, that concludes my report. 863 01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:59,360 I just have one question about community scale. 864 01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:02,020 Are they also going to be looking at this subject? 865 01:07:03,860 --> 01:07:08,460 Yeah, so sometimes I drop that from when I'm explaining it just because it's so 866 01:07:08,460 --> 01:07:12,380 wordy, but yes, it's so that website has the zoning by law, the subdivision 867 01:07:12,380 --> 01:07:14,060 regs, and the zoning map. 868 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:18,020 Is there something to stake, put out a huge 869 01:07:18,020 --> 01:07:23,800 someone put out about being able to build houses on logs that aren't beaten, zoning by law? 870 01:07:23,940 --> 01:07:29,980 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 871 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:48,090 The various requirements for MGL, chapter 40, REA sections, the various standards, so they changed it so that 872 01:07:48,090 --> 01:07:51,830 And you can, sorry, I'm just trying to, 873 01:07:51,830 --> 01:07:53,730 there were a lot of big changes in that one. 874 01:07:55,550 --> 01:08:01,190 It was the allow residential use experiences. 875 01:08:02,470 --> 01:08:04,430 So, it sounded like you didn't have that necessarily, 876 01:08:04,750 --> 01:08:06,430 but it just sounded like me to setbacks. 877 01:08:06,750 --> 01:08:07,630 Yes, yes, sorry. 878 01:08:08,490 --> 01:08:11,480 So, yeah, one of the standards they changed was that 879 01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:11,820 Uh, 880 01:08:14,220 --> 01:08:23,120 frontage, lot area, and lot coverage, um, were no longer that it required variance. 881 01:08:23,360 --> 01:08:28,700 If there was a, for existing non-conforming structure, that was being altered or extended. 882 01:08:29,460 --> 01:08:32,920 So, they used to need a variance if they were doing that, but now it's allowed by right. 883 01:08:35,170 --> 01:08:36,590 You recent the KPMO. 884 01:08:36,690 --> 01:08:38,970 Yes, yeah, I can send that out to you again. 885 01:08:38,970 --> 01:08:42,050 P.P. did a kind of a two-pager, I think we'll watch it. 886 01:08:42,050 --> 01:08:42,370 I think we'll watch it. 887 01:08:42,790 --> 01:08:44,510 Yeah, so she'll send it. 888 01:08:44,790 --> 01:08:46,290 All right. 889 01:08:46,410 --> 01:08:47,010 Yeah, sorry. 890 01:08:47,110 --> 01:08:48,770 There were a lot of big changes in that one. 891 01:08:48,770 --> 01:08:51,250 So it's hard to summarize off the top of my head. 892 01:08:51,510 --> 01:08:51,930 All right. 893 01:08:52,370 --> 01:08:54,570 And community skills looking at all that legislation. 894 01:08:55,390 --> 01:08:55,730 Yes. 895 01:08:56,130 --> 01:08:58,890 So yeah, that's a big part of it is bringing the zoning by-law up 896 01:08:58,890 --> 01:09:00,290 to the new state standards. 897 01:09:02,490 --> 01:09:02,690 All right. 898 01:09:02,910 --> 01:09:03,550 It'll set. 899 01:09:04,310 --> 01:09:04,430 Good done. 900 01:09:05,330 --> 01:09:07,110 Next is a citizen input. 901 01:09:07,310 --> 01:09:08,130 If I hear a lot of speak. 902 01:09:11,300 --> 01:09:19,480 I'm at the full seat pause drive. I just want to thank the board again for asking relevant questions of the applicant along along the way 903 01:09:19,480 --> 01:09:22,860 the intention of protecting the polls. I appreciate it. Thank you. 904 01:09:23,900 --> 01:09:26,300 Anybody online have any comments? 905 01:09:26,300 --> 01:09:28,760 Uh, important. Okay. 906 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:31,000 We'll hold minutes. 907 01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,000 You want to wait, you want to table these knees up on? 908 01:09:38,380 --> 01:09:41,240 Yeah, because Gina, you weren't up the last week, didn't you? 909 01:09:43,460 --> 01:09:44,660 Okay, that's my motion. 910 01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:45,740 Okay. 911 01:09:48,020 --> 01:09:49,460 We'll do the minutes of the next meeting. 912 01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:52,120 All right. 913 01:09:53,100 --> 01:09:53,760 Shall we adjourn? 914 01:09:54,700 --> 01:09:55,380 Motion adjourn? 915 01:09:55,900 --> 01:09:56,840 Okay. All right. 916 01:09:56,840 --> 01:09:59,300 Alright, alright, alright.