1 00:00:22,510 --> 00:00:25,470 6 p.m., when you're ready. Thank you. 2 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:43,520 So the Spokane Valley City Council, regular meeting, formal A format of Tuesday, August 25th, 2026 is now called to order. We do have an indication with Pastor James Hosek. You can all stand. 3 00:00:50,350 --> 00:01:00,270 Father, we thank you for the freedoms that you've granted to us as a nation. It's our desire that these freedoms not only be retained but used in a God-owned 4 00:01:01,070 --> 00:01:05,490 one that promotes justice and peace and dignity for all. 5 00:01:06,090 --> 00:01:10,750 In that regards, Lord, we pray that you would grant wisdom to those who are in leadership, 6 00:01:11,490 --> 00:01:15,190 to those who have influence, and guiding the affairs of our land. 7 00:01:15,950 --> 00:01:19,770 When we pray for our peace officers, we pray, Lord, for our first responders, 8 00:01:20,410 --> 00:01:25,630 those who serve on the judiciary, and Lord, in particular, this evening for our elected officials 9 00:01:26,330 --> 00:01:28,510 who are gathered for tonight's meeting. 10 00:01:29,450 --> 00:01:34,510 Pray that you place a hedge of protection around them and around each of their family members. 11 00:01:35,710 --> 00:01:40,310 With regards to their official duties, help them with the various issues that they're 12 00:01:40,310 --> 00:01:42,710 going to deal with and wrestle with this evening. 13 00:01:43,370 --> 00:01:47,910 Pray especially that they will find their thinking to be in tune with the Spirit of God. 14 00:01:48,890 --> 00:01:52,010 For all of these things, sir, we pray in Jesus' name. 15 00:01:52,990 --> 00:01:53,190 Amen. 16 00:01:53,730 --> 00:01:53,890 Amen. 17 00:01:53,890 --> 00:01:56,010 Thank you, Pastor. 18 00:01:56,550 --> 00:01:58,190 They can join me in the pledge. 19 00:01:58,570 --> 00:01:59,530 I pledge allegiance, 20 00:02:07,780 --> 00:02:11,120 individual, with liberty and justice for all. 21 00:02:17,620 --> 00:02:19,860 So if the clerk will please call the roll. 22 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:20,660 Certainly. 23 00:02:22,020 --> 00:02:22,760 Mayor Patten. 24 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:23,020 Here. 25 00:02:23,980 --> 00:02:24,720 Council Member Haley. 26 00:02:25,620 --> 00:02:26,300 Council Member Yeager. 27 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:26,760 Here. 28 00:02:27,220 --> 00:02:27,820 Council Member Kelly. 29 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:28,460 Present. 30 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:29,500 Council Member Wick. 31 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:30,020 Here. 32 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:31,920 Deputy Mayor Hattenberg. 33 00:02:32,540 --> 00:02:33,160 I have two excuse. 34 00:02:33,500 --> 00:02:34,000 Deputy Hattenberg. 35 00:02:34,640 --> 00:02:35,040 Second. 36 00:02:35,740 --> 00:02:36,600 All those in favor? 37 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,480 Aye. Aye. Opposed? 38 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:41,060 And Council Member Wick. 39 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:42,880 Or excuse me, Council Member Merkel. 40 00:02:44,340 --> 00:02:44,900 Sorry. 41 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,700 Move the excuse, Council Member Merkel. 42 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:48,520 Thank you. All those in favour? 43 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:49,980 Aye. Aye. Opposed? 44 00:02:50,380 --> 00:02:52,460 Both Council members are excused. 45 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,060 We now have the approval of agenda. 46 00:02:56,540 --> 00:02:57,880 I move to approve the agenda. 47 00:02:58,300 --> 00:02:58,800 Second. 48 00:02:59,580 --> 00:03:00,580 All those in favour? 49 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,480 Aye. Opposed? 50 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,400 The agenda is approved. 51 00:03:05,020 --> 00:03:05,580 Approved. 52 00:03:05,580 --> 00:03:10,380 There's no special guest or presentations, no proclamations. 53 00:03:11,300 --> 00:03:14,340 And so we have the first general public comment opportunity. 54 00:03:14,980 --> 00:03:20,360 This is an opportunity for the public to speak on any subject except agenda action items. 55 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,920 As public comments will be taken on those items were indicated. 56 00:03:24,620 --> 00:03:28,960 Please keep comments to matters within the jurisdiction of the city government. 57 00:03:29,500 --> 00:03:32,460 This is not an opportunity for questions or discussion. 58 00:03:32,460 --> 00:03:36,860 Diverse points of view are welcome, but please keep remarks civil. 59 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:40,500 Remarks will be limited to three minutes per person. 60 00:03:40,980 --> 00:03:46,700 If a person engages in disruptive behavior or makes individual personal attacks regarding 61 00:03:46,700 --> 00:03:52,440 matters unrelated to city business, then the council and or mayor may end that person's 62 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,840 comment time before the three minute mark. 63 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:56,840 Is there anyone on Zoom? 64 00:03:57,700 --> 00:04:01,920 We don't have anyone via Zoom this evening, nor do I have anyone that has signed up. 65 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,960 Anyone in the audience who would like to make here we don't? 66 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:14,440 I live here in the valley. 67 00:04:17,700 --> 00:04:24,370 Three or four weeks ago, you did a state of the city address, I was really impressed. 68 00:04:25,330 --> 00:04:32,270 I thought that was the neatest thing that you guys do for our city, so much stuff. 69 00:04:32,270 --> 00:04:41,430 This is great. I didn't want anything down, so this is kind of off the wall, but I just wanted to say thank you for all you do. 70 00:04:42,210 --> 00:04:44,070 Debbie and I both feel the same way. 71 00:04:44,870 --> 00:04:51,370 And I also wanted to say thank you for these guys right here, these technicians. I could actually hear last week. 72 00:04:51,490 --> 00:04:57,550 It was great. One week or two ago. It was wonderful. They must have done something to the system, but it's great. 73 00:04:57,990 --> 00:04:59,650 So thank you so much. That's all I got. 74 00:04:59,650 --> 00:04:59,970 Thank you. 75 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:07,740 Thank you. Anyone else for comment? Seeing none, we'll close the public comment. 76 00:05:11,090 --> 00:05:12,670 Not comes the consent agenda. 77 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:31,320 This consists of items considered routine, which are approved as a group. Any member of council may ask that an item be removed from the consent agenda to be considered separately. Move to approve the consent agenda. Does anyone want anything removed? 78 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:31,620 approved. 79 00:05:33,060 --> 00:05:38,780 Seeing none, all those in favor of approving the consent agenda, I opposed. 80 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:40,460 It is approved. 81 00:05:44,510 --> 00:05:45,370 So action items. 82 00:05:45,590 --> 00:05:51,070 We have homeless and housing task force appointment with Eric Robison. 83 00:05:51,410 --> 00:05:57,990 Move to confirm the mayoral appointment of Jessica Lafferty to position three and Brynn 84 00:05:57,990 --> 00:06:01,530 Hexenberger to position nine on the homeless and housing task force. 85 00:06:01,970 --> 00:06:02,430 Thank you. 86 00:06:02,430 --> 00:06:02,710 Yeah. 87 00:06:03,470 --> 00:06:04,210 Go ahead. 88 00:06:06,660 --> 00:06:06,800 Oh. 89 00:06:08,580 --> 00:06:09,200 Try again. 90 00:06:09,380 --> 00:06:09,640 Yeah. 91 00:06:09,980 --> 00:06:10,140 Okay. 92 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:10,740 Thank you. 93 00:06:11,460 --> 00:06:12,080 Thank you. 94 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:12,860 Hello, Mayor Patron. 95 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:14,360 Patron Council members. 96 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:15,220 Good to be with you. 97 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:15,860 Eric Robinson. 98 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,600 Housing and homeless coordinator for the city. 99 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:24,540 This item on the agenda, as was stated, we are trying to fill two open positions that are 100 00:06:24,540 --> 00:06:27,020 currently exist on the homeless housing task force. 101 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:32,420 Just as a reminder, this is a task force that's required by state law in order for the city 102 00:06:32,420 --> 00:06:36,240 to manage and administer certain funds related to homelessness and housing. 103 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:38,800 It's been operating for some time now. 104 00:06:39,300 --> 00:06:44,120 We have recently had a position open, position number three, the business sector representative 105 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:48,040 when Lance Beck moved out of his position with the Valley Chamber. 106 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,680 And so that would, the nominee for position three, as was stated, would be Jessica Lowry. 107 00:06:54,580 --> 00:07:00,120 In position nine for community health care, the nominee is Bryn Eichsenberger who currently 108 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:05,540 works for CHAS, but also has a history and other related areas related to this work. 109 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:10,120 And I know that Mayor had a chance to interview both of these candidates before bringing 110 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:14,860 them, their nomination before the Council, happy to answer any questions I can about the 111 00:07:14,860 --> 00:07:16,400 process at this point if there are any. 112 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,600 Are there any questions from Council? 113 00:07:22,140 --> 00:07:22,420 Comments? 114 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,020 I will make the first comment. 115 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:32,820 Both of these people are extremely familiar with vulnerable populations and how to deal 116 00:07:32,820 --> 00:07:33,320 with them. 117 00:07:35,110 --> 00:07:41,020 Jesse has worked with Joya, which is an organization that empowers families with children with 118 00:07:41,020 --> 00:07:47,400 special needs, and they have, you know, things like speech therapy and occupational physical 119 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,900 therapy and special ed services. 120 00:07:49,900 --> 00:07:55,000 us. She also has a strong background and has worked with a hunting settlement, but again 121 00:07:55,000 --> 00:08:02,760 is working with vulnerable populations of youth and housing them. Obviously, they're, you 122 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:08,380 know, they're not with their parents or maybe even don't have parents, but they're with 123 00:08:08,380 --> 00:08:13,720 the hunting settlement. So she's definitely worked with those kinds of populations and can 124 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:33,440 We have the insights and she has the insights in the knowledge and the experience to hold this position plus her, her spot is for the business viewpoint, which has as the CEO of the Valley Chamber, she is very familiar then with also the business outlook. 125 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:46,560 As we said, it works with Chaz and actually works for clients that overlap with the city's homeless outreach program, so there's a lot of overlap there. 126 00:08:47,280 --> 00:09:01,040 She has also worked with the community court downtown, which can declare that someone has to do community service and commit to getting help with either the drugs or health treatment. 127 00:09:01,620 --> 00:09:06,640 which is very important in the homeless community to try to get those kinds of things to 128 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:13,840 take care of. And it's a big supporter of our co-deployed teams. So I think she has extensive 129 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:21,900 experience in this exact area that she's going to be asked to have discussions with and make 130 00:09:21,900 --> 00:09:24,620 decisions about. So I think both of them are very good choices. 131 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,460 Council Member Kelly. 132 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:36,380 Yes, I'm sorry, I missed my opportunity to ask a question, but are you familiar with both these individuals? 133 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:46,100 I don't have any words with them personally much, but I know who they are, and I've had some conversations with Brin from Chaz in particular. 134 00:09:46,100 --> 00:09:54,120 Okay. Well, I guess my only comment or perhaps, you know, would be that given that we as a city 135 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:59,860 is taking a little bit more, I guess, a lower tolerance posture for homelessness. I'd like to know. 136 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:29,980 The candidates on this task force are considering all options that are available for assistance, rather than maybe some of the opinions that I've heard expressed in some of the other circles where that any type of enforcement is not really a preferred option. So, I guess I just like a balanced approach to this, where all options are considered, and maybe that's not important at this particular level. But I guess that would be a comment that 137 00:10:29,980 --> 00:10:35,460 And I had that, you know, we should be mindful that we have people that are not married 138 00:10:35,460 --> 00:10:37,600 to a particular, I guess, agenda, if you will. 139 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:44,140 Well, I certainly know Jesse personally, and I have no qualms there. 140 00:10:44,380 --> 00:10:51,840 And after talking to Brent, I didn't have any qualms there at all, but City Manager, you 141 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:52,280 wanted to. 142 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:01,580 She represents the Valley very well. 143 00:11:01,580 --> 00:11:07,920 I think she's very compatible with the philosophies and policy directions that the council has. 144 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:13,840 And I look forward to continuing growing the relationship with the city and the chamber 145 00:11:14,620 --> 00:11:18,080 under her leadership. So I think she'll do a fine job on the task force. 146 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:23,180 Thank you. Can I just add, in addition having a good mix on the task force, whatever 147 00:11:23,180 --> 00:11:28,280 recommendation recommendations they may come before this council and you ultimately approve or 148 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:33,040 don't approve. So, you will have the ultimate say on how those dollars are distributed regardless 149 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,460 of what recommendations the task force may make. 150 00:11:38,390 --> 00:11:40,830 Any other comments? Okay, all those in 151 00:11:40,830 --> 00:11:44,890 favor? Aye. Opposed? Aye, Tabit. 152 00:11:48,510 --> 00:11:51,930 And we get to stick with Eric and with an admin report 153 00:11:51,930 --> 00:12:00,390 on the point in time count. And I guess you'll introduce, I think, is it Amanda? It is. 154 00:12:00,390 --> 00:12:00,750 Yes. 155 00:12:00,950 --> 00:12:01,190 Awesome. 156 00:12:01,310 --> 00:12:01,510 Welcome. 157 00:12:02,310 --> 00:12:02,690 Thank you. 158 00:12:03,110 --> 00:12:03,630 Yes. 159 00:12:03,910 --> 00:12:09,030 This evening, as we go through the point and time count information on most of the presentation 160 00:12:09,030 --> 00:12:14,530 will be provided by Amanda Martinez, who is the lead for the Homeless Management Information 161 00:12:14,530 --> 00:12:18,550 Services or HMIS team at the City of Spokane. 162 00:12:19,190 --> 00:12:25,010 And just to step back a minute and then to explain that relationship, the City of Spokane 163 00:12:25,010 --> 00:12:28,910 acts as what's called the collaborative applicant for the continuum of care. 164 00:12:28,910 --> 00:12:36,290 The COC receives federal HUD dollars for our community, and all COCs have a collaborative 165 00:12:36,290 --> 00:12:39,770 applicant that's essentially the staff that helps get the work done. 166 00:12:40,470 --> 00:12:44,170 And in our COC, that role is filled by the City of Spokane. 167 00:12:44,650 --> 00:12:50,670 So while they are also City of Spokane staff, they're managed here with their COC hat on as 168 00:12:50,670 --> 00:12:56,450 a regional representative, and this data that's being presented is COC data for our region. 169 00:12:56,450 --> 00:13:00,010 And we happen to have a collaborative applicant that the city of Spokane. 170 00:13:00,790 --> 00:13:03,910 So just wanted to provide that kind of context. 171 00:13:04,510 --> 00:13:06,730 The point in time count happens every year. 172 00:13:07,430 --> 00:13:09,110 I'm sure you've heard of it before. 173 00:13:09,330 --> 00:13:14,690 We'll get into the data, but with that, is there any, I don't know if there's any other. 174 00:13:14,870 --> 00:13:17,150 You'll get into it after this unless there's any questions at the moment. 175 00:13:17,310 --> 00:13:18,710 We have a presentation from here. 176 00:13:21,230 --> 00:13:23,410 Please feel, I think you've flipped through as needed. 177 00:13:23,850 --> 00:13:24,530 Thank you, Eric. 178 00:13:24,910 --> 00:13:25,170 Thank you. 179 00:13:25,170 --> 00:13:30,870 So we will cover both the point in time count, which looks at those that experience sheltered 180 00:13:30,870 --> 00:13:35,550 and then sheltered homelessness on a single night in January, as well as the housing inventory 181 00:13:35,550 --> 00:13:42,190 count, which looks at all the beds available across several different programs, where experiencing 182 00:13:42,190 --> 00:13:44,410 homelessness is a requirement to access that bed. 183 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:49,060 First, it's always very important to think all 184 00:13:49,060 --> 00:13:54,020 of the partners that participated all of the volunteers, the city of Spokane Valley, Spokane County, 185 00:13:54,020 --> 00:13:57,620 It really is a regional effort, and we could not do it without them. 186 00:13:58,420 --> 00:13:58,740 Thank you. 187 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:05,920 We'll start off with some brief introductions and definitions to help contextualize the numbers 188 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,620 that you'll see further down the line. 189 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,360 As I mentioned, the point-and-time count looks at those that are experiencing homelessness. 190 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,800 In the sheltered count, that's specifically emergency shelter, so that's crisis intervention, 191 00:14:16,060 --> 00:14:21,880 night-by-night beds, transitional housing programs, which are about one to two year programs 192 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:26,340 and pre-identified units with intensive case management and then safe havens, which we 193 00:14:26,340 --> 00:14:30,320 actually don't have any in-spoken, so it's really just emergency shelter and transit housing. 194 00:14:31,420 --> 00:14:36,520 And then sheltered looks at those in locations not meant for human habitation, a car, a parking 195 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,660 abandoned building, an airport, anything like that. 196 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,160 This year's count was January 27th, 2026. 197 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,580 Every year that you're doing the point in time count, it has to happen within the last ten 198 00:14:47,580 --> 00:14:49,040 days of January. 199 00:14:49,700 --> 00:14:51,280 And we do what's called a service-based count. 200 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:56,320 So, we count for several days and then we remove any duplicates that appear throughout 201 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:56,760 the data. 202 00:14:58,570 --> 00:14:59,790 Now, the housing inventory. 203 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:04,800 Council, as I mentioned, it's the same night as the point-and-time count. And it looks at 204 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,300 emergency shelter, transitional housing, also rapid rehousing. So these are market rate units 205 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:14,760 in the community that have intensive case management, usually goes for about two years and 206 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,580 permanent supportive housing are pre-identified units like, think of Catholic charities, 207 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,360 the colorful buildings, or even more of them that come through the book and housing authority, 208 00:15:22,700 --> 00:15:29,560 as well as other permanent housing units. Now, the point-and-time count methodology is defined 209 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:37,780 and it is controlled by HUD, so we have specific guidelines as a continuum of care that we have to follow in order to submit this data to HUD. 210 00:15:38,740 --> 00:15:45,440 It's really important to note that also in 2021, we did not conduct on a sheltered count due to COVID-19. 211 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:52,540 Now, these are just some more specific definitions of all of the project types. 212 00:15:52,660 --> 00:15:54,500 I'll take a moment to cover a couple of them. 213 00:15:54,500 --> 00:16:03,560 So, VASH is VA supportive housing that comes through the Veteran Affairs Office, and it's 214 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:07,240 specifically permanent supportive housing for those for homeless vets. 215 00:16:08,140 --> 00:16:11,620 So, it's not just for anyone, there's that additional eligibility criteria that they have 216 00:16:11,620 --> 00:16:12,660 to be a homeless vet. 217 00:16:13,060 --> 00:16:16,780 The other area that I'll take a moment to focus on are the different breakdowns of our 218 00:16:16,780 --> 00:16:17,540 emergency shelter beds. 219 00:16:18,060 --> 00:16:22,160 So, we have year-round beds, that's really what they sound like. 220 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:27,080 they're the whole year, inclement weather beds are only available during specific conditions, 221 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:32,960 according to the Spokane Municipal Code, like 35 degrees windshield, if they're smoke, 222 00:16:33,620 --> 00:16:38,360 if they're successive heat, and then the surge beds are there just if there's an increase in 223 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:42,480 demand, like a very large family will come into a shelter, for example, so they'll pull like surge 224 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:46,930 beds out of the ground. And then emergency declaration beds are those that were made during the 225 00:16:46,930 --> 00:16:50,150 just what can's mayors, emergency declaration, 226 00:16:50,870 --> 00:16:52,310 in late October of last year. 227 00:16:55,950 --> 00:16:57,610 Now, the point in time count also includes 228 00:16:57,610 --> 00:16:59,990 several different household types. 229 00:17:00,490 --> 00:17:01,870 I apologize, this is a lot of definitions, 230 00:17:02,150 --> 00:17:03,830 but they will be used later on. 231 00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:07,510 So the main household categories are adult and child, right? 232 00:17:07,590 --> 00:17:10,310 So someone over the age of 18, someone under the age of 18, 233 00:17:10,770 --> 00:17:12,390 everyone is over the age of 18. 234 00:17:12,610 --> 00:17:13,590 It's an adult only household, 235 00:17:13,810 --> 00:17:14,970 and then the child only household 236 00:17:14,970 --> 00:17:16,470 is everyone is under the age of 18. 237 00:17:17,130 --> 00:17:18,630 And when we look at parenting youth, 238 00:17:18,630 --> 00:17:24,890 That means that there is someone in the household ages 18 to 24 who has someone under the age 239 00:17:24,890 --> 00:17:29,750 of 18 in their care, or they themselves are under the age of 18 and have someone else 240 00:17:29,750 --> 00:17:31,370 under the age of 18 under their care. 241 00:17:31,910 --> 00:17:36,490 There's two categories for that, and then on a company's use is anyone 18 to 24 or under 242 00:17:36,490 --> 00:17:38,170 the age of 18 that is by themselves. 243 00:17:38,570 --> 00:17:41,290 There's no one taking care of them or no one else in the family. 244 00:17:42,970 --> 00:17:48,410 And then that adult child and adult only groupings also have specific breakouts for 245 00:17:48,410 --> 00:17:49,370 better in populations. 246 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,220 And chronically homeless is those that have been specifically unsheltered 247 00:17:56,220 --> 00:18:02,260 for at least 12 months or for occasions over the past three years, totaling 12 months. 248 00:18:07,150 --> 00:18:14,310 January 27th, 2026, again was the date of the point in time count. We had 1,738 individuals 249 00:18:14,890 --> 00:18:23,050 across the entire county in 1,500 households. The majority of these were adults only. We only had 250 00:18:23,050 --> 00:18:27,470 at 17 under the age of 18, so 17 children only, and they were all in sheltered. 251 00:18:27,710 --> 00:18:33,130 We did not have any unsheltered minors that were by themselves. 252 00:18:34,550 --> 00:18:39,130 Now we did have adult and children households, 92 of them, with about 302 individuals. 253 00:18:42,510 --> 00:18:47,810 When we look at the sleeping locations, the majority of the individuals that night were in 254 00:18:47,810 --> 00:18:54,550 shelter, either in emergency shelter or transitional housing, and actually most individuals were 255 00:18:54,550 --> 00:18:59,470 in shelter. Now, you'll notice at the bottom that we did have unoccupied beds in both emergency 256 00:18:59,470 --> 00:19:06,910 shelter and transitional housing. The unsheltered count was 643. With most people in the unsheltered 257 00:19:06,910 --> 00:19:10,810 count, either sleeping on the streets or in a sidewalk, it will take a moment to point out 258 00:19:10,810 --> 00:19:15,830 the vehicular homelessness at 121. That is not something that is often as visible, 259 00:19:16,210 --> 00:19:21,550 whereas easy to see and it is often incredibly difficult to count, because people will move their 260 00:19:21,550 --> 00:19:23,470 vehicles throughout and they're trying very hard not to be. 261 00:19:26,350 --> 00:19:28,670 We had 17 and outdoor encampments. 262 00:19:31,180 --> 00:19:35,200 We dive in a little bit further remember when I mentioned those two parenting use categories. 263 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:44,020 We had nine parenting use with nine children and then the unaccompanied use we only had 17 of those 264 00:19:44,900 --> 00:19:53,060 that were under the age of 18 and 119 that were 18 to 24. We had 640 adults with serious mental 265 00:19:53,060 --> 00:19:59,600 illness and 404 with substance use disorder, as was 139 with domestic violence. 266 00:20:00,370 --> 00:20:05,630 We had 590 chronically homeless individuals with a pretty even split between emergency shelter 267 00:20:06,270 --> 00:20:09,530 and un-sheltered, so we had a pretty even number of chronically homeless and those sheltered 268 00:20:09,530 --> 00:20:14,230 and un-sheltered. This is very similar to last year where the breakdown is pretty even 269 00:20:14,230 --> 00:20:20,870 across both of them. We had 84 veterans, and the veteran count this year continues the pattern 270 00:20:20,870 --> 00:20:25,030 that we've seen for the last several years of veteran homelessness on the point in time 271 00:20:25,030 --> 00:20:27,450 count decreasing consistently for several years. 272 00:20:31,620 --> 00:20:33,740 Now this is specifically we're looking at 273 00:20:33,740 --> 00:20:40,780 everyone in the count and their demographics. So that top chart, the very first bar looks at 274 00:20:40,780 --> 00:20:48,840 the race that everyone identified as with the predominant category of being white and then that sort 275 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:54,800 of sub-bar breaks down those that identified as Hispanic and Latino. What other race they also 276 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:55,500 selected. 277 00:20:57,860 --> 00:21:03,640 Now when we look at sex, the predominant grouping that we see is male and then an age is 278 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:12,800 35 to 44. So the typical demographic combination that we see is a white male between the ages of 279 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,800 25 and 54. That's the majority of the population. 280 00:21:19,590 --> 00:21:28,850 If we're looking at the historical trends, we were 281 00:21:28,850 --> 00:21:33,870 390 and since then we have continued on a steady downward trend. 282 00:21:34,470 --> 00:21:39,650 This year was a 4% decrease compared to last year overall. 283 00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:45,010 I will point out that the trend is going down and it's slow and it's consistent as someone 284 00:21:45,010 --> 00:21:48,950 who works day-to-day in data that would be highly concerned of all of a sudden, but it was 285 00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:54,690 just like a huge cliff because that speaks to data quality and how well we actually surveyed. 286 00:21:54,910 --> 00:21:54,950 Right? 287 00:21:54,950 --> 00:22:00,530 of all of a sudden the count drops significantly, it more questions how we did the surveys and the 288 00:22:00,530 --> 00:22:05,550 data quality that we received. But a city consistent, that's more sustainable and points in a good 289 00:22:05,550 --> 00:22:05,970 direction. 290 00:22:09,470 --> 00:22:15,790 When we look at the whole county, all the little dots are everywhere that surveys happened. 291 00:22:16,790 --> 00:22:21,690 Over the past several years there has been a lot of effort from the entire continuum to expand 292 00:22:21,690 --> 00:22:26,930 the count area and make sure we have the entire county. You'll see we got as far north as deer park 293 00:22:26,930 --> 00:22:35,570 and even some close to the Cheney area, which is important because it is meant to be account for the entire county, right, not just the urban core. 294 00:22:37,210 --> 00:22:46,930 The call out bubble is all the surveys that happen at the Spokane Convention Center, the day of the Spokane Connect event. So this people could have been really anywhere else in the county, 295 00:22:47,090 --> 00:22:52,650 but just that day they were at the Convention Center, so we pulled that bubble out to make sure we didn't confuse them of the others. 296 00:22:52,650 --> 00:22:59,570 Okay, and this is a little bit more zoomed in of that main urban core of the Spokane County. 297 00:23:00,090 --> 00:23:06,010 As I mentioned past several years, if you look at prior trends geographically, we had continued 298 00:23:06,010 --> 00:23:12,070 to push and push further out and been able to capture those surveys. Thanks to all of the volunteers 299 00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:13,670 and the coordination of the partners. 300 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,320 In addition to all the normal questions that HUD requires that 301 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:27,900 we ask every COC has the ability to ask supplemental questions. This year we asked two of them. 302 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,720 which is, does someone have a photo ID or a social security card? 303 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:39,120 And we found that predominantly they do not have either a social security card or a photo ID. 304 00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:44,460 We do know that there is room for improvement in our continuum with helping those with document readiness 305 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:47,240 for when units do become available for them. 306 00:23:49,570 --> 00:23:54,570 The second question that we asked was if someone lived in Spokane County before they became homeless, 307 00:23:55,170 --> 00:23:57,230 specifically this episode of homelessness. 308 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,400 across the board, the majority of them said yes, that they are actually from 309 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:09,340 Spokane County. We had a small percentage of them about 13% of that said that 310 00:24:09,340 --> 00:24:16,060 they were from outside of Washington and then of that small percentage, 35 of 311 00:24:16,060 --> 00:24:21,540 them said that they were from Idaho. And we had about another 10% of that said 312 00:24:21,540 --> 00:24:24,920 they were from Washington, but they were outside of Spokane County. So 313 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,580 predominantly everybody said that they were from Spokane. Now this is actually 314 00:24:29,580 --> 00:24:33,820 the first year where we asked this question in both the sheltered survey and the unsheltered 315 00:24:33,820 --> 00:24:39,100 survey. In prior years, we had only asked it on the unsheltered. So this trend, this next chart 316 00:24:39,100 --> 00:24:44,880 is actually the trend of the unsheltered responses that we have seen going back to 2019 in this question. 317 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:51,420 And as you can see, we've had a fairly consistent, especially with the past three years response rate 318 00:24:51,420 --> 00:24:55,100 up to 90% this year and 99% in 2024. 319 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,160 So that gives us a high degree of confidence 320 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,580 and fidelity of the data. 321 00:25:00,050 --> 00:25:03,830 For consistently, most people respond that they are from Spokane County. 322 00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:09,900 Now we're moving into the housing 323 00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:15,600 inventory count, and this looks at the trend of the different beds available in each project type year 324 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:23,820 after year. One of the biggest changes that we saw from 24 to 25 was the increase in the number of 325 00:25:23,820 --> 00:25:30,120 bash vouchers that the Spokane Housing Authority had available to them. 326 00:25:38,090 --> 00:25:39,170 And this is looking at the trend 327 00:25:39,170 --> 00:25:44,130 of all the emergency shelter beds that we've had year over year and in the past couple 328 00:25:44,130 --> 00:25:50,670 of years broken down between inclement weather as well as scattered site beds and the 23 emergency 329 00:25:50,670 --> 00:25:53,190 declaration beds that were available in 2020. 330 00:25:56,290 --> 00:25:59,130 The next couple of charts will look at utilization 331 00:25:59,130 --> 00:26:04,650 and then inverse the vacancy that was available per project type. So when we look at emergency 332 00:26:04,650 --> 00:26:09,730 shelter we have had a utilization that has had quite a bit of ups and downs over the past couple of 333 00:26:09,730 --> 00:26:12,330 years, but it's hovered at around 80. 334 00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:18,650 This year for emergency shelter and transitional housing, an 80% utilization is not a bad 335 00:26:18,650 --> 00:26:18,910 thing. 336 00:26:19,110 --> 00:26:22,790 It's actually a really good place to be, because it means you're using most of your beds, 337 00:26:23,230 --> 00:26:25,290 but those that are outside have space to come in. 338 00:26:25,910 --> 00:26:30,710 If you're at 100% utilization, well, there's no place for anyone who is outside to actually 339 00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:36,550 come in to the beds, and a virtualization is significantly below 80, then that's not 340 00:26:36,550 --> 00:26:40,070 not good either because then you're not utilizing the resources available to your community. 341 00:26:43,140 --> 00:26:47,920 Now this looks at all the permanent housing projects, so permanent supportive housing, the 342 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:54,020 VASH and the Rapid. You'll notice that Rapid Rehousing is always at 100%. Over the past 343 00:26:54,020 --> 00:26:59,820 couple of years, that's because per the HUD methodology, the only way you can count the unit 344 00:26:59,820 --> 00:27:04,960 as if someone currently lives in it since their market rate units. So the unit doesn't exist 345 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,100 unless someone's in it, and because units only exist, if someone's in it, it's 100%. 346 00:27:10,380 --> 00:27:14,860 So that causes a little bit of an up and down year-over-year in the number of units that 347 00:27:14,860 --> 00:27:17,120 we have, but the utilization will stay consistent out of 100. 348 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,060 Now this looks at the inverse vacancies. 349 00:27:23,100 --> 00:27:28,300 You can see we have last year, 17, and 18% immersed in shelter and transitional housing, 350 00:27:28,780 --> 00:27:33,740 so around that 20% of vacancy is good because we have space to move people in two services 351 00:27:33,740 --> 00:27:39,880 and programs from the streets and children and then the same thing again for the 352 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:43,140 permanent housing projects. 353 00:27:45,340 --> 00:27:47,840 We take away that we're noticed from this point in time count 354 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:53,320 and that's really important to remember that this was one night, eight months ago, almost nine 355 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:58,980 months ago now. So this is not the entire year, this is not everyone that experiences homelessness 356 00:27:58,980 --> 00:28:03,200 throughout the whole year. There are several other reports available for that, the longitudinal 357 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:08,880 system's analysis that the HMIS team also publishes, the snapshot of homelessness that's 358 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:13,420 provided by the Washington State Department of Commerce, so there are many other reports 359 00:28:13,420 --> 00:28:13,900 available. 360 00:28:14,020 --> 00:28:16,580 This is just one night in January, eight months ago. 361 00:28:17,940 --> 00:28:23,440 We do continue to see that there is a disproportionate number of BIPOC populations, so black indigenous 362 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:28,620 people of color, over-represented when you compare it to the proportion of those populations 363 00:28:28,620 --> 00:28:32,080 in our census data, those that are appearing on the pit. 364 00:28:33,140 --> 00:28:38,000 As I mentioned the document readiness, we saw over 40% of the individuals that we surveyed 365 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:42,540 did not have their documents, so that is an opportunity for our COC to continue to work 366 00:28:42,540 --> 00:28:45,680 on those programs to make sure people have their documents when they're needed. 367 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,020 And of course, we had almost 200 emergency shelter beds that were available, so we need to 368 00:28:51,020 --> 00:28:54,180 increase that utilization as well as, you know, there were people on sheltered, but we had 369 00:28:54,180 --> 00:28:56,200 beds available they could have used on the night of the pit. 370 00:28:57,420 --> 00:29:01,440 And consistently across all the reports that are being published, the point in time count 371 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:06,020 the longitudinal systems analysis, even the system performance report, we are seeing progress 372 00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:12,560 and consistent progress and manageable progress and sustainable progress being the most 373 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:19,820 important towards main goals of our vibrant plan, really. Now, of course, there's room for improvement 374 00:29:19,820 --> 00:29:23,320 and there are further things that we need to do in sustained these improvements, but we are seeing 375 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:24,000 a positive change. 376 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:33,720 Thank you very much, Amanda. Before we get into questions, I also wanted to 377 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,380 to talk a little bit about those trends. 378 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,260 Of course, their positive trends were seen, 379 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:39,660 but there's also larger context. 380 00:29:39,900 --> 00:29:41,060 Again, this was eight months ago. 381 00:29:41,380 --> 00:29:43,240 So since we've taken this count, 382 00:29:43,900 --> 00:29:45,460 we've had inflation really take off. 383 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:47,740 Gas, $5 a gallon was not the case 384 00:29:47,740 --> 00:29:48,960 when we had this pick count. 385 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,880 So groceries, things that families are struggling with. 386 00:29:54,380 --> 00:29:57,400 2025 saw a record number of evictions in Washington state. 387 00:29:58,140 --> 00:29:59,820 A lot of that was driven by the West side. 388 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:27,300 We've had a lot of evictions here on this side of the state as well, so that's a lot of families are struggling that regard. And since this pit, perhaps the biggest, most significant differences is that we just lost six, seven, or 800 housing units overnight with the fires a few weeks ago. So whatever vacancies we had shrunk by several hundreds throughout our community, and I expect we will see some knock on effects from that as time goes, although none of us quite know what that will be. 389 00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:34,340 but supply and demand there's going to be some sort of impact on these households especially those that were on the margins to begin with. 390 00:30:35,260 --> 00:30:41,480 So while we are headed in a positive direction, we know there's a lot of family struggling out there and that also remains true. 391 00:30:45,530 --> 00:30:48,150 Other questions from Council? Council Member Yeager? 392 00:30:50,420 --> 00:31:02,780 Thank you. So on the availability of the bed inventory trend, we've roughly lost 600, let's say. 393 00:31:02,780 --> 00:31:10,380 in 400 ish in Rapid Rehousing and then 200 in the Vash, you remind me like maybe 394 00:31:10,380 --> 00:31:15,840 why that happened or what happened there to reduce the availability of the 395 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:24,540 bed inventory. So for Rapid, the units only counts if someone's actively living in 396 00:31:24,540 --> 00:31:29,280 them. That's per the definition that we have that requirement of HUD. So in a 397 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:34,080 The rapid rehousing program, someone gets selected through coordinated entry and an organization 398 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,700 begins to work with them to find them a unit in the community. 399 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,560 And then there's a point that they move into the unit. 400 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,520 The inventory for that is only counted when the movement happens. 401 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,660 That whole time of the client is not moved in. 402 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:50,780 The unit does not exist for the purposes of the housing inventory account, right? 403 00:31:50,860 --> 00:31:54,440 Because that unit is a market rate unit, so it's just available for anybody. 404 00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:02,660 With that, that is through SHA and allocations that come from the federal government to 405 00:32:02,660 --> 00:32:03,920 SHA for vouchers. 406 00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:05,860 Thank you. 407 00:32:06,620 --> 00:32:11,480 Yeah, and to add to that, the rapid rehousing, when funding goes out, funding isn't provided 408 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:12,960 to say, help 100 families. 409 00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:16,900 You're given an X amount of funding, and you help have for many families you can, and as 410 00:32:16,900 --> 00:32:20,040 things get more expensive, you can help fewer families with the same dollars. 411 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:25,740 So I think partly what we're seeing here too is, you know, as COVID funds went away, 412 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,560 some of these funding that helped produce extra beds went away too. 413 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:34,280 You can see the number of emergency shelter beds significantly dropped after 2024 when 414 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,820 the trend shelter closed. 415 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,580 And you know, it was often, it was a lot of us funded by COVID dollars that didn't exist 416 00:32:40,580 --> 00:32:41,080 anymore. 417 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:46,140 So some of these have to do with federal funding sources that were available, that no longer 418 00:32:46,140 --> 00:32:46,780 are available. 419 00:32:47,220 --> 00:32:47,880 Thank you. 420 00:32:49,860 --> 00:32:53,580 It's just going to go along the same lines of just looking at the county dollars. 421 00:32:53,580 --> 00:32:56,000 And I know you're on the HCDC with us. 422 00:32:56,460 --> 00:33:00,200 How do you see that that impact, because I know that the county prioritized emergency 423 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:05,200 shelter beds trying to stabilize that one, but didn't really have a goal for trying to 424 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,420 stabilize rapid rehousing. 425 00:33:06,820 --> 00:33:09,120 Do you think that kind of played into some of these numbers too? 426 00:33:10,380 --> 00:33:11,180 It has to. 427 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,580 I mean, there's a tradeoff, right? 428 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,200 When you prioritize one, you can't prioritize the other and that's the truth. 429 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:21,500 We also our system had a challenge with rapid rehousing beds for a while when vacancies 430 00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:22,300 were really low. 431 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,860 So we had some funds, but had a hard time placing people. 432 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:29,140 So then we decided, well, maybe as a community, we'll put a little less there and try some 433 00:33:29,140 --> 00:33:29,840 of these other areas. 434 00:33:30,620 --> 00:33:33,020 But emergency shelters are also very, very expensive. 435 00:33:33,300 --> 00:33:36,500 So you might put money into it, but still don't see a growth in beds. 436 00:33:36,500 --> 00:33:41,000 You might just maintain the status quo because the cost of running a shelter bed is quite high. 437 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:47,160 So it has to have an impact when we're trading off where our area of focus is, yeah. 438 00:33:49,810 --> 00:33:57,390 So when the track site closed, and I don't remember how many beds there was at 300 or 400, 439 00:33:57,690 --> 00:34:07,970 well, it fluctuated. Well, officially the number was 250, but it did fluctuate significantly up to, 440 00:34:07,970 --> 00:34:13,790 I did see the 400 through 150, but the official number of their typical euro meds was supposed 441 00:34:13,790 --> 00:34:14,350 to be 250. 442 00:34:14,950 --> 00:34:15,270 Thank you. 443 00:34:15,430 --> 00:34:19,870 Okay, and so if I recall correctly, Spokane went to a different paradigm where they had 444 00:34:19,870 --> 00:34:25,750 smaller sites around this or outside the city, maybe you're in the city, whatever. 445 00:34:26,610 --> 00:34:31,650 So how many of the smaller sites that sprung up, how many beds was that total? 446 00:34:31,790 --> 00:34:34,670 Did it not balance the track number? 447 00:34:35,470 --> 00:34:36,450 That's a great question. 448 00:34:36,450 --> 00:34:42,330 So, on that on this slide right here, we have 182 of those scattered sites, which is what they called. 449 00:34:42,550 --> 00:34:47,350 And that switch in models was actually something, a lot of feedback that we heard from the providers, 450 00:34:47,890 --> 00:34:54,590 which is it's a lot harder to wrap your arms around 300 people than it is to case manage 30, 451 00:34:55,170 --> 00:34:58,930 right, in a single location. So, that was a lot of feedback that we had received, 452 00:34:58,930 --> 00:34:59,970 and that was part of the push. 453 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:26,800 Let's move to this model, but we added 182 beds in 2025 with the scattered site. In the scattered sites that are being run by jewels, helping hands are 30 clients per site. And I believe that four sites, maybe five, and there's a couple. So it's going to take a lot of scattered sites to equal 300 at the track. And also some of these sites, shelter sites have converted now. 454 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:32,200 So, volunteers of America converted HOPE House to a respite program that's reimbursed through 455 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,940 Medicaid rather than being an emergency shelter. Now, I understand from Amanda that those numbers 456 00:35:36,940 --> 00:35:42,960 are included in the emergency shelter count, but those aren't walk-in shelters. Not anyone can 457 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:49,080 just walk in those and access those. So, while they still appear in the count, in terms of how many 458 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:53,340 beds are accessible for someone to walk into that they need, well, it's even actually smaller than 459 00:35:53,340 --> 00:35:55,260 and the emergency shelter count number tells us. 460 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:00,680 So do any of the service providers, 461 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,180 at least like at track, 462 00:36:03,740 --> 00:36:06,560 they are all together in one place, 463 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,660 and service providers can come in, 464 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,320 I don't know how many or what kinds did, 465 00:36:11,460 --> 00:36:14,420 but when you're scattered throughout the city, 466 00:36:14,620 --> 00:36:16,260 then service providers are going to, 467 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,120 like maybe a counselor or something, 468 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,360 going from place to place, 469 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,420 is there any feedback on that kind of thing? 470 00:36:27,070 --> 00:36:32,090 Okay. Yes, there is a lot of coordination, and I'm not sure if you've heard of the housing 471 00:36:32,090 --> 00:36:36,470 navigation center, you've probably seen it in the news, but that is also a location 472 00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:42,030 where a lot of service provider comes. I know Jules Helping-Hans have a rotating list 473 00:36:42,030 --> 00:36:47,770 of every service provider and what day they're going to come in. Jules partners with Cat 474 00:36:47,770 --> 00:36:53,190 with Providence at their Medical Response Center, so that collaboration is still happening constantly. 475 00:36:54,010 --> 00:36:56,890 house of charities collaborating with the Housing and Navigation Center. 476 00:36:57,290 --> 00:37:01,290 So all of those connections do exist in the community and they are being utilized. 477 00:37:02,010 --> 00:37:02,930 I'll add to that. 478 00:37:03,450 --> 00:37:09,230 The city's Spokane recently put out a call for proposals for the inclement weather beds and receive a couple responses, 479 00:37:09,230 --> 00:37:15,150 one from Catholic charities, which is house of charity in St. Margaret's and one from jewels that has four different scattered sites. 480 00:37:15,830 --> 00:37:22,190 And in both of their applications, they talked quite a bit about the partnerships they have to serve the people in their scattered site locations. 481 00:37:22,190 --> 00:37:30,870 So, they have partnerships with health care providers, mental health care providers, substance use providers, that is absolutely baked into what they're offering those clients. 482 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:34,980 Any other questions? 483 00:37:37,220 --> 00:37:37,720 Comments? 484 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:41,600 I guess that's it. Thank you. 485 00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:41,980 Thank you. 486 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:54,060 We now have an admin report, a budget estimated review revenues and expenditures with Chelsea. 487 00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:08,070 Good evening, Mayor and members of Council. Chelsea Walls Finance Director. 488 00:38:08,070 --> 00:38:14,630 here. This is the second occasion where Council will review the draft 2027 budget numbers. 489 00:38:15,410 --> 00:38:20,830 The first occurred back at the June 9th budget workshop where you reserve reviewed the 490 00:38:20,830 --> 00:38:25,850 work sheets that were prepared by staff in detail. By the time Council is scheduled to adopt 491 00:38:25,850 --> 00:38:32,030 the 2027 budget on November 17th, you will have an opportunity to discuss the budget on eight 492 00:38:32,030 --> 00:38:37,730 separate occasions including three public hearings. Each year staff prepares estimates 493 00:38:37,730 --> 00:38:41,710 proposed revenues and expenditures for the next budget cycle and we will review these 494 00:38:41,710 --> 00:38:46,910 this evening and then again on September 15th when a public hearing will be held for the revenues. 495 00:38:48,190 --> 00:38:52,950 Please keep in mind that these worksheets that are included in your RCA this evening are still 496 00:38:52,950 --> 00:38:58,490 work in progress and they could change as we go forward although I don't anticipate anything material 497 00:38:58,490 --> 00:39:05,070 changing. The budget continues to involve. I'm working particularly on the capital project 498 00:39:05,070 --> 00:39:08,870 budgets with engineering and I want to review those with them again to make sure that those 499 00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:13,970 are accurate. So that's a place that I could see some ships happening, but again, I don't anticipate 500 00:39:13,970 --> 00:39:21,630 anything large besides what we know are unknowns right now. I wanted to highlight a few changes that 501 00:39:21,630 --> 00:39:26,950 have occurred since the June 9th workshop and those are indicated in blue font throughout your packet. 502 00:39:26,950 --> 00:39:32,730 First, the general fund recurring revenues were revised downward due to new estimates 503 00:39:32,730 --> 00:39:34,670 on state shared revenues that came out. 504 00:39:36,170 --> 00:39:42,090 Also, staff is proposing adding that transfer to fund 503 for the future replacement of 505 00:39:42,090 --> 00:39:44,230 police vehicles acquired in prior years. 506 00:39:44,750 --> 00:39:51,430 That's $653,000 transfer from the general fund to fund 503 in the non-recurring section. 507 00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:58,170 And also included are the supplemental budget requests from the June 9th workshop that had 508 00:39:58,170 --> 00:39:59,770 that council consensus at that time. 509 00:40:01,420 --> 00:40:31,400 All right, so jumping into the presentation, this presentation is at a much higher level than we went through at the budget workshop on June 9th, so I'll keep it kind of at a higher place. Total appropriations for all funds are currently unknown because we don't know what our total general fund expenditures are at this point. We're still working through the law enforcement contract costs and I'll have a little bit more to say on that in a bit. Total estimated revenues across all funds are about 148 million. 510 00:40:32,500 --> 00:40:47,600 We have 31 total funds, so not including the general fund, the 30 other funds, have expenditures of about $91.8 million, and included in that amount is an estimated $51.6 million in capital costs. 511 00:40:48,380 --> 00:40:58,620 Partially offsetting those capital costs are $29.6 million in estimated grant revenues, which represents about 57% of capital expenditures being paid for through grants. 512 00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:06,300 Looking at our full-time equivalent employee count, that is increasing the funded FTE amount 513 00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:14,160 is increasing by one to bring it to 120.25. That is the addition of the public safety director 514 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:19,920 position, which has been included as an unfunded position in the last several years. But on 515 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:25,800 the June 16 council meeting, council gave consensus to bring that in and fund it in the 516 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,280 in the 2027 budget, so that is now included 517 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:29,260 as a funded position. 518 00:41:31,940 --> 00:41:33,660 Looking specifically at the general fund, 519 00:41:33,820 --> 00:41:36,860 recurring revenues are estimated at 71.8 million. 520 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,860 That's an increase of 3.5 million or 5.14%. 521 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,560 These estimates are developed through historical trends 522 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:45,740 and projections of future economic conditions. 523 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,980 The two largest revenue sources in the general fund 524 00:41:48,980 --> 00:41:50,940 are property taxes and sales taxes. 525 00:41:51,260 --> 00:41:53,720 Those collectively account for about 82% 526 00:41:53,720 --> 00:41:55,400 of our general fund recurring revenues. 527 00:41:57,740 --> 00:42:03,640 So looking a little bit at those two revenue sources, property taxes are estimated at 14.5 million 528 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:10,200 in order to develop that estimate. I take the 2026 actual levy and then add an estimated new 529 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:16,140 construction of 200,000. I will watch that number as we progress throughout the year. I expect to get 530 00:42:16,140 --> 00:42:22,760 an update from Spokane County Assessor's Office in the next week or so with some new information on that. 531 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:27,880 Just to say, this estimate does not include the 1% that is allowed by state law. 532 00:42:28,180 --> 00:42:34,520 It also does not include the 1.4 million of available bank capacity, excuse me. 533 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:40,960 And I will be coming forward in September for reports specifically on property taxes. 534 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,980 So looking at our general sales tax amount, that's estimated at 37 million. 535 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,660 That's an increase of 9.6% over the 2026 budget. 536 00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:57,300 2026 sales taxes are currently expected to come in over our budgeted amount of $33 million 537 00:42:58,460 --> 00:43:03,420 with the data I have right now through June. If that trend continues, I'll be including 538 00:43:03,420 --> 00:43:08,780 an increase in sales tax revenues in the future, 26 budget amendments. However, like I said, 539 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,420 it's only through June. I'd like a few more months of data to see if that trend is holding. 540 00:43:12,820 --> 00:43:19,080 So I'll keep watching that. In projecting the 2027 budgeted sales tax, staff started with 541 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:28,040 the actual 2025 collections and then added increases of 5% in 2026 and 4% in 2027 to bring 542 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:35,400 us to the 37 million. Sales tax revenues for 2026 are currently about 6.5% higher than 543 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,400 they were for the same period in 2025. 544 00:43:41,530 --> 00:43:43,890 All right, so general fund expenditures and recurring 545 00:43:43,890 --> 00:43:49,830 expenditures, we currently do not know these because of unknown law enforcement contract costs. 546 00:43:49,830 --> 00:43:54,810 City staff is continuing to work with Spokane County to determine reasonable estimates. 547 00:43:55,570 --> 00:44:03,050 And I do believe that Deputy City Manager Eric Klam has a little bit extra information about where that's sitting right now if he wants to come up. 548 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,240 Thank you, Mayor. 549 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:11,380 Councilor, I do have an update. 550 00:44:19,210 --> 00:44:22,230 We've had multiple meetings with County staff. 551 00:44:22,770 --> 00:44:28,570 We actually had a meeting with Sheriff, with commissioners, Brooks and 552 00:44:28,570 --> 00:44:38,110 with Mayor Padden, Deputy Mayor Hattenberg, and Council Member Haley, working through some of the issues that were identified at the June Budget Workshop. 553 00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:43,410 There's been extensive work with the Budget Office and the Sheriff's Office. 554 00:44:44,270 --> 00:44:52,750 And so I do want to acknowledge there's been a lot of work done on several reconciliations that are either in process or have been processed. 555 00:44:52,750 --> 00:44:56,730 That includes the 2024 Law Enforcement Settling Adjust. 556 00:44:57,690 --> 00:44:59,750 We also understand that the 557 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:28,240 2025 lead cap is currently on schedule. It is per the contract required to be provided at the end of September. And by there were some questions earlier this year about the implementation of the financial software. We do understand that the budget office believes that will be coming in on time. So that's great news. We also have worked to come to an agreement on the 2026 estimate payments for law enforcement. 558 00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:35,260 That is a significant move because that bumps us up from where we were previously paying at 2023 rates. 559 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:47,860 So a lot of work, we still have not come to, I think what I would call a full understanding of where we might be for a budget for 2027, so we continue to work on that. 560 00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:54,940 I was, I was at a meeting last Friday and was provided a budget estimate. 561 00:45:55,900 --> 00:45:58,540 My understanding is this does come from the Sheriff's Office. 562 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,580 Again, it was just provided this on Friday. 563 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:07,680 And so we're still trying to work through what this, what it, what, what goes into this and 564 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,020 understand there's anything we have questions about. 565 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:17,580 The amount that was provided has a Sheriff's Office budget of 20 for 2027 of approximately $82 566 00:46:17,580 --> 00:46:26,180 million dollars working through everything and they just provided basically a rough 50% estimate, 567 00:46:26,180 --> 00:46:32,240 based on the FTEs. That would leave Spokane Valley with approximately a $41 million amount for 568 00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:41,500 2027. I think, as I said, that we have questions about this. One thing is that this budget amount, 569 00:46:41,500 --> 00:46:50,200 We understand our current understanding is this doesn't represent increase in any service levels, so this is really just cost escalation. 570 00:46:51,420 --> 00:46:57,200 That would be approximately 6.6% over our current 2026 budget. 571 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:03,700 Like I said, there are still some pieces we're working through and so we're trying to understand what all goes into that. 572 00:47:03,700 --> 00:47:08,720 I think it is significantly higher than the county's adopted budget for 573 00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:10,440 2026 for the Sheriff's Office. 574 00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:15,980 And so I think understanding what plays into that beyond the collective bargaining amounts, 575 00:47:15,980 --> 00:47:20,320 which are not that much relative to what's been provided by the sheriff. 576 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,460 So at least we're getting some numbers and we continue to work through that. 577 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:31,260 Like I said, it does show an increase over the 2026 budget and we continue to work forward. 578 00:47:31,260 --> 00:47:37,820 and I do want to highlight I think since our June workshop there's been an increased level 579 00:47:37,820 --> 00:47:42,580 of communication and participation between all three parties trying to work towards resolving 580 00:47:42,580 --> 00:47:49,820 many of the issues that we talked about in June. So any questions specifically on public safety 581 00:47:49,820 --> 00:47:50,560 or law enforcement? 582 00:47:58,610 --> 00:48:03,150 Actually, I guess I have one. So you said the 2024 was settled? 583 00:48:06,010 --> 00:48:16,850 And wasn't an outstanding issue, the depreciation or the capital cost of the training center on that one and how did that get resolved? 584 00:48:17,410 --> 00:48:19,030 That you are correct, Mayor. 585 00:48:19,330 --> 00:48:26,350 So we did settle the 2024, settle and adjust payments for everything but the training center, so I apologize. 586 00:48:26,350 --> 00:48:28,770 We are continuing to work through that. 587 00:48:29,370 --> 00:48:45,870 Again, as we talked about, the city's position is that the sheriff, at the time that the training center was being developed and identified and discussed, indicated that Spokane Valley would not be responsible for any capital class to build and construct the building. 588 00:48:45,870 --> 00:48:49,150 It's an approximate $40 plus million building. 589 00:48:50,150 --> 00:48:57,290 The county's position has been that it is under the contract subject to depreciation 590 00:48:57,290 --> 00:48:59,550 and we should pay that component. 591 00:49:02,030 --> 00:49:05,830 We've made some headway, but we continue to work on that. 592 00:49:06,570 --> 00:49:07,630 City manager? 593 00:49:08,330 --> 00:49:14,250 Yes, I would ask Eric to provide maybe a little bit more context on the actual dollar numbers. 594 00:49:14,250 --> 00:49:43,590 So, can you remind the council and the community what the settle and adjust was for 2024, and then I think in addition it would be helpful to understand what the current estimate that we received for 2026 is from the county because then I think it puts it into context from a dollar standpoint the level of increase because there was some question that maybe we were. 595 00:49:43,590 --> 00:49:53,490 over estimating our budget amount, so I think it's important to at least have, have some context for the council. 596 00:49:53,490 --> 00:49:59,730 Yeah, so 2024, excuse me, sorry to interrupt you. 597 00:50:00,660 --> 00:50:29,960 Can you also indicate whether these numbers are coming from the county's accounting office or the shares? Because part of the problem all along is that they haven't, well not all along. Part of recent issues is that they have not matched. And so like this, this 41 million or the 82 million. I mean, that's from the sheriff's office, right? That's not from the county's budget office. And could you tell us what 598 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:31,820 that the county's budget office says? 599 00:50:33,020 --> 00:50:38,380 Yes, so let me start with a city manager, 600 00:50:38,580 --> 00:50:41,800 Holman asked, so our settlement adjust 601 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,700 is an agreed upon amount for actual expenses. 602 00:50:45,260 --> 00:50:49,720 And by both sides, I mean the county and Spokane Valley 603 00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:52,940 agree to this, this is the agreed upon amount 604 00:50:52,940 --> 00:50:56,100 for the services we received, what we actually owe. 605 00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,260 So it is a resolution of everybody. 606 00:50:59,260 --> 00:51:23,700 based on actual costs. So for 2024, excluding the training center which is still being discussed and our goal is to handle that outside of the settle and adjust the amount that that we ultimately owed was approximately $28 million and I can send around the final amount but it's approximately $28 million. 607 00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:40,720 Now, remember in 2025 and 2026 we added approximately 10 officers each year, so significant increases just from the additional officers, but the 2025, let's see, I don't know that I have the 25 budget. 608 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:47,400 The 2026 estimate, so this is after we've added all 20 positions. 609 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,800 I guess let me step back. 610 00:51:50,020 --> 00:51:52,760 Our budget for 2026 is $38 million. 611 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:59,780 So over two years, we estimated approximately $10 million more for budgeting purposes. 612 00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:11,000 The 2026 estimate, which again is just an estimate, that is an amount that was originally derived 613 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:17,820 On the county side, but ultimately agreed to by both sides is approximately 33 and a half million dollars. 614 00:52:18,660 --> 00:52:26,960 So you can see a big jump from 24 to 26, even just between the actual and the estimate and the actual in our budget. 615 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:32,240 Now, the amount then that we're talking about, so our budget is $38 million. 616 00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:34,840 dollars, the estimate is $33 million. 617 00:52:36,940 --> 00:52:41,000 What we're talking about this amount of $41 million. 618 00:52:41,340 --> 00:52:48,920 My understanding merit to your question is that they come from the Sheriff's Office. I do not know 619 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:56,720 exactly how much involvement the budget office had. I know they are looking at that. 620 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,660 And we will continue to look at that as well. 621 00:53:01,340 --> 00:53:25,020 So I don't know that, and the budget office has not provided anything separate from that, but I know they rely on the sheriff to identify and develop a proposed budget and the county commissioners will ultimately prove that my understanding is the commissioners will be hearing from the budget office and all departments next week for a holistic presentation of the budget, I believe on Tuesday. 622 00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:27,640 Council Member Yeager. 623 00:53:28,820 --> 00:53:32,460 All right, I missed what you said the 2026 budget number was. 624 00:53:32,860 --> 00:53:36,100 So our 2026 budget number is $38.5 million. 625 00:53:37,340 --> 00:53:43,540 So you can see that at least as the sheriff's office is estimating for or budgeting 626 00:53:43,540 --> 00:53:46,220 with this initial budget amount, which again we're not. 627 00:53:46,860 --> 00:53:50,080 We haven't worked and really gotten into it because we just received this. 628 00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:55,920 You know at $41 million that's about a six and a half percent increase over our 629 00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:04,380 2026 budget amount. So the sheriff's office at least is in range and higher than where we're at. 630 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:06,320 Council member Wood. 631 00:54:07,500 --> 00:54:13,160 So your so their estimate was 41 million but the 26 you're comparing that to our budget amount but 632 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:19,200 their 26 estimate was 33 and a half. Yeah. So I don't know that we would want to base the 633 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,920 different based on our budget, more so than their estimate. 634 00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:29,780 Well, and I would say that the estimate is something that we've just worked out. 635 00:54:30,540 --> 00:54:35,900 The goal under the contract and historically has been to get the estimate provided early in the year. 636 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:38,140 So we're making more accurate payments. 637 00:54:38,900 --> 00:54:42,280 Under the contract, the estimate is to be derived from the lead cap. 638 00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,340 That was not possible. 639 00:54:44,340 --> 00:54:54,440 And so the estimate this year, I think, is much more of a generalized escalation using certain assumptions than based on the lead cap. 640 00:54:54,700 --> 00:54:58,680 So well, I think it gets us closer to a more realistic number. 641 00:55:00,270 --> 00:55:20,450 I think we, we still would like to get more information overall about where things are tracking. So we've been, that's where we've been trying to work with the budget office on where the actuals for 2026, so we can see how that aligns with the county's budget and with that estimated amount. 642 00:55:24,030 --> 00:55:30,130 I just wanted to make sure I fully understood that this was clear as possible to the public. 643 00:55:32,030 --> 00:55:38,790 So 2024, the actual expenditures from by the city was 28 million. 644 00:55:39,610 --> 00:55:44,250 And if we want to assume that we're approximately 50% of the county's budget, then we can extrapolate 645 00:55:44,250 --> 00:55:59,870 that the sheriff's office spend approximately 56 million excluding the training facility and he expenses there in the indirect costs are cost or 28 million includes indirect costs and the sheriff's budget doesn't necessarily include all of those. 646 00:55:59,870 --> 00:56:08,730 Okay. And then for 2026, the estimate of $33 million is what the Sheriff's Office expected 647 00:56:08,730 --> 00:56:15,470 as to make payments against, but we were being prudent and budgeted about $38.5 million, 648 00:56:15,550 --> 00:56:23,330 about $5 million more. Correct. And I would say that it is the estimate was simply an agreement 649 00:56:23,330 --> 00:56:30,610 by the parties to try to catch our payments up, I think it is based on a couple of years, 650 00:56:31,530 --> 00:56:37,090 prior actuals and then escalations that are based on assumptions. And so, again, 651 00:56:37,930 --> 00:56:44,490 I think our goal for the 27 budget development is to continue to get more information, both, 652 00:56:45,290 --> 00:56:50,810 for example, from the sheriff's budget projection and understand what's going into that, 653 00:56:50,810 --> 00:57:06,050 As well as the actual cost to date in 2026, I think that is something that had been missing earlier and we do understand more information is becoming available and should be getting a report soon about that. 654 00:57:06,450 --> 00:57:10,630 So I guess I would say we continue to work on this. 655 00:57:10,730 --> 00:57:18,450 Our hope is in the next couple of weeks we could come forward and have a much more clear discussion about public safety costs because I know right now. 656 00:57:18,450 --> 00:57:21,170 there's a lot of numbers being thrown around for a lot of different years. 657 00:57:22,150 --> 00:57:29,510 But I think the takeaway is at least right now, we've budgeted conservatively from the standpoint of 658 00:57:29,510 --> 00:57:35,870 making sure we are setting aside enough money to pay for all the costs that we believe if all 659 00:57:35,870 --> 00:57:43,830 the positions are filled, we will incur. And that includes all the new positions where we see 660 00:57:43,830 --> 00:57:50,190 the sheriff's office going is certainly, you know, around or higher than those numbers as well. 661 00:57:50,670 --> 00:57:57,710 City manager? Yeah, I think I just wanted to add that when we spoke about this in June during 662 00:57:57,710 --> 00:58:06,330 our workshop, there might have been an impression that we had been overly conservative or overestimating 663 00:58:06,330 --> 00:58:13,350 our budget for the last several years. We have been working through this since that time but 664 00:58:13,830 --> 00:58:20,110 This is a little troubling in the sense of maybe we've been underestimating, or we might be in a point where we have not 665 00:58:20,670 --> 00:58:26,550 had our budget high enough to cover any expenditures that we might see in 2027. 666 00:58:26,810 --> 00:58:30,530 So there's a lot of uncertainty, we're going to continue to work through that. 667 00:58:30,710 --> 00:58:36,810 But that's kind of where we're at right now is trying to determine if we're overestimating or underestimating. 668 00:58:36,810 --> 00:58:40,310 And some of the data shows that we might have been overestimating. 669 00:58:40,310 --> 00:58:47,490 but now this new data point that we have we're underestimating and so we'll try to get this 670 00:58:47,490 --> 00:58:54,850 clear because again we need to provide you with a final draft budget by the first week of October. 671 00:58:55,230 --> 00:59:02,610 So there's not a lot of time for us to work with entities at the county to resolve this issue but 672 00:59:02,610 --> 00:59:09,610 we are doing our best to try to get you an actual complete budget by the first week in October. 673 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:13,560 So is this a follow-up on your initial? 674 00:59:13,700 --> 00:59:13,960 Yes. 675 00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:14,620 Okay. 676 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,760 So with regard to this $33 million estimate, 677 00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,880 is this based on your-to-date numbers, 678 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:24,320 or do we have your-to-date numbers 679 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,260 to give us some idea if that's realistic, 680 00:59:26,260 --> 00:59:28,720 if it's trending more to their number or our number? 681 00:59:29,780 --> 00:59:32,560 We are working to get your-to-date from the county 682 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:33,320 at this point. 683 00:59:33,820 --> 00:59:35,880 The estimate was not based on your-to-date. 684 00:59:36,060 --> 00:59:40,320 It was based on the 24 actual and then escalated 685 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:45,020 and adding additional officers based on certain assumptions of how much to 686 00:59:45,020 --> 00:59:47,720 escalate. Thank you. Council moved away. 687 00:59:48,540 --> 00:59:53,160 Just want to clarify, the 26 was last time we added officers, right, so that was 688 00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,780 already our second set of 10 that we added. Correct. 689 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,660 In the 26, so there's no additional officers between 26 and 27. 690 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,980 Not for Spokane Valley, no, and we don't understand at least preliminary. I do not have any understanding that there's additional officers in the sheriff's office. But like I said, we just received this and I've been speaking to Chief Ellis and we have a meeting set up to try to get at what goes into the 82 million dollars so we can understand that it is quite a bit higher than the counties adopted 26 budget. And so even higher than the collective 691 01:00:29,980 --> 01:00:36,520 bargain and agreement increases in escalation. So I think a fair number of pieces we need 692 01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:39,740 to understand why they're driving that cost up so much. 693 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,320 Councilmember Kelly, wait, did you have? 694 01:00:45,020 --> 01:00:51,560 I was just going to add Eric, maybe you can provide the sheriff's 2026 budget number. 695 01:00:51,860 --> 01:00:53,920 I think it was in the 66 million range. 696 01:00:54,260 --> 01:00:59,900 Yeah, what I was told is approximately 66.3 million dollars for the 2026 sheriff's office 697 01:00:59,900 --> 01:01:00,300 budget. 698 01:01:00,300 --> 01:01:06,160 And how much of an increase is that getting you to the projected 2027? 699 01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:12,540 It's about 15.9. 700 01:01:13,140 --> 01:01:19,360 If I'm doing the math right, it's if 82 minus 66, what's that? 701 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:29,280 16 million, but percentage wise, it's about a 23% increase. 702 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:30,320 So 703 01:01:33,140 --> 01:01:39,060 you answered my question. I was going to ask what number of the county had adopted in their 2026 budget and you said 66 million. 704 01:01:45,750 --> 01:01:57,110 Sorry, I was sitting here thinking, this is probably a rhetorical question, but what happens if we can't afford to pay that much more? 705 01:01:58,930 --> 01:02:08,250 We will have to have discussions about with both internally and council level and probably with the sheriff about what that looks like going forward. 706 01:02:10,610 --> 01:02:11,410 City manager. 707 01:02:12,350 --> 01:02:28,270 Well council member Haley if you recall from our meeting the finance committee meeting had with the two county commissioners and the sheriff we did entertain the idea of having a fixed cost contract with the sheriff's department. 708 01:02:28,270 --> 01:02:35,890 Mr. Sheriff was amenable to that. However, part of his, I guess, request that we would have 709 01:02:35,890 --> 01:02:41,870 to discuss further would be that he would be the determining factor of level of service. 710 01:02:42,630 --> 01:02:51,250 So that, to me, would mean that staffing would be solely his responsibility as opposed to input 711 01:02:51,250 --> 01:02:56,590 from the council. So I think there's a lot to discuss on that yet, but that could be an 712 01:02:56,590 --> 01:03:03,630 option because I have grave concerns that we'd be able to accommodate a $41 million 713 01:03:05,990 --> 01:03:13,650 budget for 2027. That's a pretty big increase. Even though we seem to be doing well on sales 714 01:03:13,650 --> 01:03:20,990 tax collections, there's other costs that have escalated as everybody has experienced over 715 01:03:20,990 --> 01:03:27,450 the last many years and so that's something that we will definitely have to talk about and move 716 01:03:27,450 --> 01:03:34,810 forward with potentially. Can it's member Wick? So I know this is kind of outside of our 717 01:03:34,810 --> 01:03:38,590 purview but the county budget request from the sheriff's office of 82 million is that 718 01:03:39,230 --> 01:03:44,550 was that made after they identified that they had a $30 million whole or was that before? 719 01:03:50,310 --> 01:03:50,970 So is 720 01:03:50,970 --> 01:03:54,390 increase after they were already at $30 million in a hole. 721 01:03:55,290 --> 01:03:56,370 I don't want to mispeak. 722 01:03:56,770 --> 01:04:02,910 My understanding is this was what was provided just recently to, from the Sheriff's Office to the budget office. 723 01:04:04,130 --> 01:04:11,350 My understanding is there are discussions going on at the county in advance of the presentation of the budget to the commissioners next week. 724 01:04:11,590 --> 01:04:20,510 So I would guess that the original 30 million deficit discussions did not include this addition. 725 01:04:21,330 --> 01:04:23,330 but I don't want to misspeak on that. 726 01:04:26,570 --> 01:04:27,850 Any other questions? 727 01:04:30,420 --> 01:04:30,840 Comments? 728 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:33,720 All right. 729 01:04:34,460 --> 01:04:35,500 Well, I've got one. 730 01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:36,200 Yes, continue. 731 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:37,680 If you keep on going. 732 01:04:38,080 --> 01:04:38,240 All right. 733 01:04:39,020 --> 01:04:40,480 Still looking at the general fund. 734 01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:42,000 Now non-recurring activity. 735 01:04:42,780 --> 01:04:48,500 We have non-recurring revenues of 75,000 as a transfer in from 501 for some IT scheduled 736 01:04:48,500 --> 01:04:53,120 capital expenditures and non-recurring expenditures of 1.6 million. 737 01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:57,100 Those are primarily related to the supplemental budget requests, 738 01:04:57,400 --> 01:04:59,880 except for those items that are related to the police. 739 01:05:13,700 --> 01:05:29,880 So that brings me here general fund ending fund balance. We don't know right now. So as you're aware, we have two main financial objectives for the general fund. 740 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:33,540 And one is that recurring revenues exceed recurring expenditures. 741 01:05:34,220 --> 01:05:39,140 And the other is that our general fund ending fund balance is at least 50% of recurring expenditures. 742 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:45,420 We do not know whether we may either of those at this point, so we will keep looking and 743 01:05:45,420 --> 01:05:49,500 keep evaluating, and as we get more information, we will find out. 744 01:05:51,100 --> 01:05:57,060 So looking at our other funds and revenues in those funds, motor vehicle fuel taxes, 745 01:05:57,060 --> 01:06:04,320 is the gas tax in Street Fund 101 is estimated about 1.9 million, those projections are based off 746 01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:11,840 of a per capita rate that MRSC puts out. Those are currently at 13.7% more than the same 747 01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:20,400 period in 2025. Telephone taxes have stabilized and they're currently 13.6% more than the same 748 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:28,080 period in 25. Those are expected to come in at about 980,000 in 2027. Real estate excise 749 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:35,360 taxes are reed or estimated at 3 million. Those are currently down by 13.2% as compared 750 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:48,380 to the same period in 2025. Hotel tax revenues are 900,000 that includes the 2% tax or 1.5 million 751 01:06:48,380 --> 01:06:55,100 excuse me, I'm mixing up my lines here. 900,000 in the 2% tax and 600,000 in the 1.3% tax. 752 01:06:55,880 --> 01:07:01,600 The 2% tax is currently about 2.5% as compared to the same period in 2025. 753 01:07:02,500 --> 01:07:09,280 Tourism promotion area fees is the 1.3 million TPA fees. Those are of 6.3% as compared to 754 01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:17,140 the same period in 2025. For the vehicle license fees, the tab fees are anticipated to be about 1.8 million. 755 01:07:17,140 --> 01:07:22,200 And I finally have some data so I can tell you that those are pretty much even to the 756 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:26,880 same period as 2025 they are holding steady as what we have been collecting. 757 01:07:27,980 --> 01:07:32,540 And then stormwater management fees are estimated at 6.2 million in fund 402. 758 01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:40,520 Looking at budget challenges, we've had some structural deficits in a few of our city operating 759 01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:41,040 funds. 760 01:07:41,380 --> 01:07:45,080 And currently as we've just discussed we don't know if our general fund right now has 761 01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:47,040 an operating deficit or not. 762 01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:52,640 So we will continue to evaluate that, but our street fund deficit is estimated to be about $1 million. 763 01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:57,840 The draft budget does include REIT transfers to cover that deficit. 764 01:07:58,500 --> 01:08:07,400 However, the continued use of a REIT fund to subsidize maintenance operations will start affecting the city's ability to match grant funds in the future, potentially. 765 01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:15,100 Other challenges are, as we've been talking about, lack of timely information for public safety contracts. 766 01:08:15,100 --> 01:08:20,340 I think we beat that one to death at this point, balancing public safety with other priorities. 767 01:08:20,340 --> 01:08:27,900 This is a continuing challenge, so rising costs in public safety operations has caused other departments to have to cut costs in prior years. 768 01:08:28,480 --> 01:08:33,760 But inflationary pressures are affecting all of our city departments, so trying to balance those priorities. 769 01:08:34,460 --> 01:08:39,060 And then transportation funding, so balancing the needs of arterials and local access streets. 770 01:08:39,060 --> 01:08:44,560 rates. We've had some shifting around of subsidies in the last several years in order to try 771 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:49,640 and cover those costs and cover the costs of public safety and the new officers, so just 772 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:55,940 trying to make those numbers work out in the city's favor and continue to get those grant 773 01:08:55,940 --> 01:09:01,580 funds and have the match for them. And then accumulating funding for large capital projects, 774 01:09:01,820 --> 01:09:05,480 such as our grade separation project. So Sullivan Trent is coming up next. 775 01:09:05,480 --> 01:09:21,280 And then here is our current calendar for the 2027 budget, as you'll see in the yellow circle, we're on the admin report on the 25th, and then we are anticipated to have adoption on November 17th. 776 01:09:24,530 --> 01:09:25,770 And then are there any questions? 777 01:09:27,130 --> 01:09:28,350 Questions from council. 778 01:09:28,350 --> 01:09:28,550 Council 779 01:09:31,330 --> 01:09:32,510 member would. 780 01:09:32,910 --> 01:09:37,990 So in the street fund, just a quick question, you had two lines in there. 781 01:09:38,030 --> 01:09:44,890 One is the traffic safety camera program where we added the expenses. 782 01:09:45,430 --> 01:09:52,010 It looks like it kind of matches or barely matches the revenue then this is the anticipation. 783 01:09:52,530 --> 01:09:59,970 And those are still very much estimated and I am needing to check in on where that project is. 784 01:10:00,620 --> 01:10:06,760 So that I believe would come forward potentially with more information next time. What's the traffic 785 01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:11,620 program increases, like a half a million dollars for the traffic program? Is that similar 786 01:10:11,620 --> 01:10:17,960 to the cameras or? No, that is the like the traffic operation. So the signals that all 787 01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:22,860 of that that has to do with. So we think that's going to go by half a million 788 01:10:22,860 --> 01:10:28,720 dollars more next year. Those are the numbers that I received and that 789 01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:30,280 that we're presented at the budget workshop. 790 01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,500 Just in there, I know it might be curious to know a little bit more about that. 791 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:40,600 I believe some of that, if I'm remembering correctly, is, I know we've added. 792 01:10:40,820 --> 01:10:43,380 There have been a number of street lights that have been added over the years. 793 01:10:43,780 --> 01:10:45,580 And truly not the actual cost. 794 01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,260 That's a component of that, I believe. 795 01:10:49,780 --> 01:10:53,540 And I do know I'm getting her thumbs up from the public, not trying to put you on that. 796 01:10:53,540 --> 01:10:55,220 So we can provide additional information. 797 01:10:55,620 --> 01:10:59,100 Yeah, electric costs in particular are like $400,000 or more. 798 01:10:59,460 --> 01:11:01,640 So those have been rising. 799 01:11:07,630 --> 01:11:11,250 Robert Blagan, Public Works Director, so about half of that was the street light cost. 800 01:11:12,030 --> 01:11:15,750 And then we had the full staff in the signal shop. 801 01:11:16,250 --> 01:11:19,410 And then the cost escalation in our service contracts, 802 01:11:20,250 --> 01:11:25,550 signing, striping, that comes from the county as their costs have gone up and they pass through 803 01:11:25,550 --> 01:11:32,130 those costs. So just the accumulation, and we have one of our staff members that was 804 01:11:32,130 --> 01:11:36,810 charged partially to traffic this now full time, the third member, the other traffic 805 01:11:36,810 --> 01:11:41,210 counts, they're in my vision. So I'll accumulate those operations cost increased. 806 01:11:42,470 --> 01:11:43,130 Thanks. 807 01:11:46,650 --> 01:11:47,970 Any other questions? 808 01:11:47,970 --> 01:11:53,290 comments, comments, seeing that? 809 01:11:53,850 --> 01:11:54,790 Thank you. 810 01:11:54,850 --> 01:11:57,230 Be back for a public hearing and about a month. 811 01:11:57,610 --> 01:11:57,750 Yeah. 812 01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:06,920 Okay. 813 01:12:07,060 --> 01:12:09,980 We're now at our second general public comment opportunity. 814 01:12:10,340 --> 01:12:11,600 The rules are the same. 815 01:12:12,180 --> 01:12:13,780 Is there anyone on Zoom? 816 01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:15,420 No, Mayor. 817 01:12:16,020 --> 01:12:17,560 And is anyone signed up? 818 01:12:19,740 --> 01:12:20,300 Unlikely. 819 01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:28,240 Okay. 820 01:12:28,440 --> 01:12:31,160 Anyone in the audience wish to make a public comment? 821 01:12:35,440 --> 01:12:43,400 Okay. We're done with general public comment. Advanced agenda. Any items for the advanced agenda? 822 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:46,000 Council member Wick. 823 01:12:46,820 --> 01:12:53,000 I know that we have ended our agreement with Flock and with the county, but the cameras 824 01:12:53,430 --> 01:12:58,580 are still there, and the community is still out crying because they don't realize that 825 01:12:58,580 --> 01:13:03,000 they're off. I just wonder if there was a way that we could collect them so that they're 826 01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:04,260 not still out on the streets. 827 01:13:08,980 --> 01:13:13,440 Is it it's the responsibility of flock right to to take them down? 828 01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:20,900 Yes, but I think we could look at if staff collects them and puts them in a place that could be picked 829 01:13:20,900 --> 01:13:27,760 up so we could look at that. Okay, an alternative might be just a bag them or something to that effect 830 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:29,680 might be cheaper but put 831 01:13:31,950 --> 01:13:36,330 banks over them basically yeah yeah I would just take them down myself 832 01:13:36,330 --> 01:13:44,940 versus begging them but yeah okay well I guess fine oh do we have consensus to do that oh yes 833 01:13:44,940 --> 01:13:54,560 is that consensus consensus thank you sorry okay anybody else are we okay okay we'll look at it 834 01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:57,260 Anything else? 835 01:13:59,610 --> 01:13:59,970 Okay. 836 01:14:03,470 --> 01:14:04,810 Council member reports. 837 01:14:07,650 --> 01:14:10,750 These are brief three-minute maximum verbal 838 01:14:10,750 --> 01:14:16,230 reports by council members, specifically regarding meetings or events, committee, commission, 839 01:14:16,470 --> 01:14:22,370 task force, board members or board meetings or community events. They have recently attended 840 01:14:22,370 --> 01:14:26,630 while representing the city. This is not an opportunity for general 841 01:14:26,630 --> 01:14:31,930 comments from council members. The intent of the council member reports is to inform the 842 01:14:31,930 --> 01:14:37,550 entire council and the public of pertinent policy issues or events which impact the 843 01:14:37,550 --> 01:14:44,030 city. Extended reports shall be placed as future agenda items for presentation or submitted 844 01:14:44,030 --> 01:14:48,010 in writing as an informal memo. Council member Kelly. 845 01:14:49,650 --> 01:14:59,970 Yeah, I'd like to share so we had recently had the scraps meeting and the board and they seem to continue to be making progress, they're very focused. 846 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,980 We're just on streamlining their operations and making sure that they have sufficient funds to operate while still providing good service. So, based on what I'm hearing and seeing, I'm confident that they're in good hands. Also yesterday, we attended Deputy Mayor Hattenberg and myself attended some of the openings of the new school security doors and was impressed by the number of very dedicated and energetic teachers and kids that put a lot of effort into 847 01:15:29,980 --> 01:15:38,880 So it's good to see that they're making progress and that they've completed their delivered their promise projects about five years ahead of schedule. 848 01:15:39,140 --> 01:15:40,900 So that's going well as also. 849 01:15:41,780 --> 01:15:43,540 Great. Thank you. Council member would. 850 01:15:45,020 --> 01:15:48,380 Nothing major to add just looking forward to cops and cruisers this weekend. 851 01:15:50,600 --> 01:15:51,720 Council member Yeager. 852 01:15:52,060 --> 01:15:54,240 I will second that this weekend. It'll be a lot of fun. 853 01:15:54,240 --> 01:16:01,540 I attended the partners in the Northwest Block Party, it was from 10 to 5, a couple weeks 854 01:16:01,540 --> 01:16:06,920 ago, and I was there pretty early, so I'm not sure it was attended as well at that time, 855 01:16:07,140 --> 01:16:13,540 but then I believe last week I spoke about the course grant opening, which was a beautiful 856 01:16:13,540 --> 01:16:14,340 Saturday morning. 857 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:22,600 I attended the county GOP convention this last weekend and got to do an abbreviated state 858 01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:28,380 of the city, and so I got to break on us a little bit, and Jill, your thumb drive is back in your seat. 859 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:36,420 Friday, I did a ride along with deputy speedrun, with the homeless and housing resource officer, 860 01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:40,340 sorry if I'm calling him the wrong thing, but I also got to meet 861 01:16:41,420 --> 01:16:45,220 Misty, who was with Frontier Behavioral Health, and they make a really great team. 862 01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:50,660 And then today we got to cut the ribbon for the Sunshine Health Facilities Assisted Living 863 01:16:50,660 --> 01:16:57,540 and opening, they provide a great campus of care out here in the valley, and that's about it. 864 01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:00,380 Thank you, Council Member Hayley. 865 01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:02,000 Nothing different to report. 866 01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:08,220 Okay, I was at two ribbon cuttings. 867 01:17:08,260 --> 01:17:21,260 One was WestPAC, which is, you know, investment accounts are financial investing firm, and they stated very boldly that they were very intentional 868 01:17:21,260 --> 01:17:27,680 about coming and being in the valley and so they were very thrilled they're out on Indiana 869 01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:36,860 past Sullivan. I also was at the Sunshine ribbon cutting and I will say they are an 870 01:17:36,860 --> 01:17:44,440 interesting group you know as family run they have now including the 4th generation of 871 01:17:44,440 --> 01:17:49,660 family that are doing it and they have grown as the valley has grown they have grown and 872 01:17:49,660 --> 01:17:51,940 in their totally community oriented 873 01:17:52,560 --> 01:17:55,500 and have a great value system of service 874 01:17:55,500 --> 01:17:59,840 to the vulnerable people that they serve. 875 01:18:00,140 --> 01:18:03,260 So they have not just assisted living, 876 01:18:03,460 --> 01:18:06,000 but they have also like a nursing home thing 877 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:10,920 and various services for various stages of your life. 878 01:18:11,060 --> 01:18:12,620 So that was really a fun event. 879 01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:15,760 I went to the launch Northwest breakfast, 880 01:18:15,760 --> 01:18:21,160 which was an update only on some of their activities. 881 01:18:21,860 --> 01:18:23,360 So they highlighted three programs. 882 01:18:24,380 --> 01:18:27,700 Two of them struck me as pretty important. 883 01:18:27,840 --> 01:18:31,540 One was their Engage IRL, which is engage in real life. 884 01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,660 And it's at the high school level, 885 01:18:34,780 --> 01:18:38,560 and they encourage and help students be involved 886 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:40,420 in extracurricular activities. 887 01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:48,380 And they have, they keep track of, you know, statistics on the data on it. 888 01:18:48,780 --> 01:18:53,780 And so the students that are involved, the absenteeism has gone down. 889 01:18:54,420 --> 01:18:58,600 Their grade point averages have gone up much less screen time. 890 01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:00,280 These activities are not screen time. 891 01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:06,660 These are interacting with real people and their peers and adults and playing games and learning things. 892 01:19:06,660 --> 01:19:09,760 and so it's really, I think, a really good program. 893 01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:12,720 They also have one called Empower Mentoring, 894 01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:16,320 which is a peer who could be, I mean, mentoring, 895 01:19:16,480 --> 01:19:18,780 who could be a peer or a college student 896 01:19:18,780 --> 01:19:23,380 or a trusted adult, and so they do things 897 01:19:23,380 --> 01:19:27,480 like locate scholarships, talk about careers, 898 01:19:28,100 --> 01:19:29,700 meet basic needs for students. 899 01:19:30,420 --> 01:19:35,780 And as of 2025, 26, they had 3,018 participants, 900 01:19:35,780 --> 01:19:47,220 students, student participants, and 131 mentors, so that's a pretty, you know, substantial impact in the schools and this is in Spokane schools. 901 01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:52,260 So, and that's it. So then city manager. 902 01:19:52,900 --> 01:19:59,780 Okay. Thank you, Mayor Patten, Councilmembers. Just to follow up on the Mayor's comments, I did speak. 903 01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:29,980 She has been really preoccupied with the fire recovery response and sounds like we'll be having some really interesting news later this week that she didn't really tell me other than they have a big thing that they've been working on. So she's been a little bit preoccupied. But set by the end of the week, we should be in a position to schedule a visit from launch Northwest. So I'll work with you. 904 01:20:29,980 --> 01:20:33,220 for the clerk to get that set up. 905 01:20:34,380 --> 01:20:38,300 And then wanted to, as Council Member Wick brought up 906 01:20:38,300 --> 01:20:42,280 this weekend, there's a variety of things happening. 907 01:20:42,580 --> 01:20:45,280 There's actually three large events going on. 908 01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:49,100 The first starts at 3.30 across the street, 909 01:20:49,140 --> 01:20:52,200 and that's the rubbing cutting of our sports courts. 910 01:20:53,060 --> 01:20:54,640 And so that's going to be really exciting. 911 01:20:54,880 --> 01:20:58,840 We invite everybody to come out and join 912 01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:05,900 the city council to open the new basketball and pickable courts sports lighting and then the 913 01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:12,720 expanded sound system. So the one thing my understanding on the sports lighting piece is that 914 01:21:13,440 --> 01:21:19,540 it'll be set up for motion detection so there won't be any light switches out there so we'll have 915 01:21:19,540 --> 01:21:25,900 to work through how that all that operates but I think it should be pretty exciting and the courts 916 01:21:25,900 --> 01:21:31,840 That looks great, so I think it's going to blend in really well with all the other improvements there, so. 917 01:21:32,440 --> 01:21:44,220 And the park next year at this time, we did get confirmation from RCO that the federal part of the splash pad and playground has been approved. 918 01:21:44,540 --> 01:21:53,740 So we've checked all the boxes there and were on track for a 2027 installation for the splash pad and playground. 919 01:21:53,740 --> 01:21:58,820 And so that will, this year and next will really transform that space across the street. 920 01:21:59,500 --> 01:22:06,460 So that's at 3.30 and then immediately after from 4 to 7, as was mentioned, is the Cops 921 01:22:06,460 --> 01:22:07,340 and Kids car show. 922 01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:09,620 So we're all looking forward to that. 923 01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:17,700 And then after 7, closer to I think sunset and accounts member wake, you might want to talk 924 01:22:17,700 --> 01:22:18,980 about the movie in the park. 925 01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:24,260 just that we're having another or probably one of our last movies for the 926 01:22:24,260 --> 01:22:29,420 summer for the free movies in the park is we're going to show cars. So great 927 01:22:29,420 --> 01:22:30,020 theme. 928 01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:35,960 Until we're really excited about this weekend and hope to see 929 01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:41,460 everybody there and that's all I have tonight. Thank you. Move to adjourn. Second. 930 01:22:41,460 --> 01:22:41,560 All right. 931 01:22:41,700 --> 01:22:42,240 All right. 932 01:22:42,740 --> 01:22:43,220 All right. 933 01:22:43,220 --> 01:22:43,360 Opposed? 934 01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:43,480 All right. 935 01:22:43,740 --> 01:22:44,220 Opposed? 936 01:22:44,460 --> 01:22:45,440 We are adjourned.