1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:31,070 Know you’re the chairperson. No, no, no. Direct it over there. There we go. All right, all right. Ladies and gentlemen, I call this meeting to order for the Spring Lake Park Planning Commission. Uh, Mr. Baker is been elected to to, uh, be our leader tonight. So, Mr. Baker, I will let you do the role. 2 00:00:31,070 --> 00:01:10,000 All right, Commissioner Cobb’s here. Julian. Here. Coyle. Here. Goldstein. Here. Chair. Hansen. Obviously I’m here. All right, so with that, then we will rise and see the Pledge of Allegiance. To the flag of the United States of America. And to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right. 3 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:36,130 Forgive the frogs. I’ll try to. I’ll try to cover my mouth a little bit if I. If I’ve got something in my throat here. Uh, now we do the approval of the meeting minutes from last time, which was March 23rd. Does anybody have any addition, subtractions, multiplications or divisions to make? Mm. None. Nothing. Uh, hearing. Nothing. 4 00:01:36,130 --> 00:01:58,530 I will entertain a motion for approval of the minutes as published. I will make a motion to approve the minutes from May 26th. Second motion. May. Motion. Seconded to voice call. All in favor, say aye. Aye. Those opposed say nay. I hear nothing good. 5 00:01:58,530 --> 00:02:23,630 Those minutes are approved. Now we have the the first item on our agenda is, uh. Actually, it’s the public hearing request for a variance of a rear yard setback. That was that was the first one. But this is a different order. That’s the first one. Yep. 6 00:02:23,630 --> 00:02:47,070 Okay, so we’ll do the public hearing the variance request for rear yard setback at 8035 Benjamin Street Northeast. So I would, uh. That’s me. All right, take it away, sir. Thank you. Chair Hansen and members, uh, before you and in the packet is the memo for, uh, 8035. 7 00:02:47,070 --> 00:03:12,700 They applied for a variance from the rear yard setback requirement in the R-3 zoning district to accommodate a covered patio. The property is located within the Spring Lake Park Villas, which is a planned unit development. Uh, in 1994. In 2025. The applicant constructed a roofed patio structure without first obtaining the required building permit or zoning approvals. Uh, they did apply for that. 8 00:03:12,700 --> 00:03:35,070 And during the 2025 application, uh city staff did determine that a portion of the structure extended beyond the applicant’s property line and onto the neighboring property. Because we can’t authorize improvements located on property not owned by the applicant. 9 00:03:35,070 --> 00:04:01,200 We advised the applicant the denial and request would be, uh, would be recommended, and the applicant withdrew the application and modified the structure. And in doing so, then came back before you with the changes. It is on now on the property line or just just inside. Um, like I said before, our three multi-family residential. Um, and then the zoning codes in there that outlines the criteria for considering the variance. Um, reasonable use for the structure. 10 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:25,730 Uh, customary residential accessory structure intended to provide outdoor living space for occupants of the townhouse. It is a little unique. Uh, this property, located in the pud. Uh, the the lots are shaped very odd. Uh, they’re jagged around the neighborhood and such. 11 00:04:25,730 --> 00:04:47,700 Um, then their decision to construct the structure prior to obtaining the permits, uh, is a concern. However, the variance request does, uh, evaluate based upon the physical characteristics, and then staff does find that a lot of the configuration and development pattern established through the PUD approval can constitute circumstances unique to the property. 12 00:04:47,700 --> 00:05:14,030 So and with that, the recommendation staff finds that the proposed roofed accessory structure represents a reasonable residential use and that the property contains unique circumstances associated with its lasts and does, uh, recommend approval. Uh, under the following conditions listed in front of you. Okay. Let’s, uh, just read out the conditions quickly. So, sure, it’s on record. So there is five conditions. 13 00:05:14,030 --> 00:05:38,270 Uh, the structure shall remain entirely within the boundaries of the subject property. The structure shall substantially conform to the, uh, plan submitted with the variance application. Uh, must obtain all required building permits and inspections shall comply with the applicable building code. 14 00:05:38,270 --> 00:06:12,070 Drainage and fire safety requirements and the variance approval shall not become effective until all outstanding administrative penalty fees, permit fees and other charges associated with the unauthorized construction of the structure have been paid in full. Okay. Okay. Well, is the. Owner of the property here who might wish to address the body here? I am here, yes. All right. I have followers. I’m Johanna, and this is, uh, Peter. 15 00:06:12,070 --> 00:06:33,730 I don’t know which one is Avery’s down there. Cameras right there. And we see older one. Okay. Um, he’s not shy. Okay, well, well, could you tell me a little bit more about, uh, how this all developed and stuff. Like that? Yeah. So. Okay. 16 00:06:33,730 --> 00:06:54,530 Do you want to come up here and tell me this? This is a project that he kind of started? Um, so I own the house. We we are engaged, and he’s been living with me since I bought the house. So it’s essentially his house as well. Okay. 17 00:06:54,530 --> 00:07:10,500 He ended up putting a paved, uh, patio in the back of it, and then we weren’t gonna have a structure on top of it. And then all of a sudden, we decided to put a pergola, you know, like a freestanding, uh, patio cover on it. And then I think it got interpreted as a, you know, addition to the house or something like that. 18 00:07:10,500 --> 00:07:34,570 So the intent behind it last summer was to do it quickly. Obviously, given the short Minnesota summer weather. Um, and then, yes, we’re aware of that. We did it initially. Follow the proper forward calls. 19 00:07:34,570 --> 00:07:48,930 A lot of babies, young babies involved and maybe not smart decisions, but obviously talking to everyone I’ve talked to a lot. This has been a long, ongoing process and you’re aware. Okay, okay. 20 00:07:48,930 --> 00:08:06,030 Come to find out that it’s better to do things the right way and make sure I mean, we know we know the use of what we wanted to get out of it and the reasons why we did it. But learning along the way, I mean, this is the first house I’ve owned, and we’re kind of just living day by day. So. Okay. To be honest. What a good example for your kids. All right. Right. 21 00:08:06,030 --> 00:08:35,870 All right. So in terms of now that area that was outlined, um, so there’s enough space there to for the and the other neighboring properties. Mr. Baker, they don’t have any objection to anything like this. Uh, there is one noted from the homeowner’s association. It’s on your packet. 22 00:08:35,870 --> 00:08:57,330 This would be the last page of the of this topic. Oh, okay. But as far as side yard is fine and the rear yard is just for the rear yard variance because it does go directly up to the property line. Oh okay. Okay. So is the hose against it. Is it correct? Yep, yep. Okay. 23 00:08:57,330 --> 00:09:21,200 How do you handle that then? I guess if this gets approved by the city I mean if the HOA doesn’t. So they we had initially submitted. Sorry. So my French. Yeah. Because we didn’t it was just built on a whim essentially. Um, and then they denied that because the plans didn’t match what we have built. 24 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:40,170 So now that we have everything official, everything said according to the city’s code, I will resubmit to them and go from there. They’ve been very flexible with everything I’ve done, like siding and whatnot. So I, I strongly believe that it’s just because it didn’t match what we and what we put, and we didn’t say it was going to be covered. 25 00:09:40,170 --> 00:09:54,400 So we essentially said it was just a patio slab. And then all of a sudden the structure went up. So it. Wasn’t supposed to be covered. Yeah. Oh, okay. Well yeah. You have you have any tree cover there or. No. There was one to the left. 26 00:09:54,400 --> 00:10:12,900 Uh, if you’re looking out and it was to the left and they had cut it down, it was pretty big. Both our trees cut down in the front and the back. So okay. That was another reason. So you’re trying to prevent kid can is what you’re saying. Yeah. I mean I guess from the letter that they wrote here, like it says specifically, they’re opposed to the zero foot setback. 27 00:10:12,900 --> 00:10:34,230 Oh really I haven’t I haven’t seen that. So yeah. Like so that so I mean I they could make you take it out still. Yeah. Right. Okay. Well I uh we’ll have to just. If we approve it, there is a whole different thing. So yeah, this is step one. So we’ll do step two after that. 28 00:10:34,230 --> 00:11:00,900 Okay. With that. Uh, I have. A question for Mr. Baker. Um. Drainage concerns have been looked at and addressed. Right. Anytime somebody’s going right up to a property line, things like that. 29 00:11:00,900 --> 00:11:20,870 One thought that comes to me is, okay, are we going to have drainage problems down the road if if we cover this? Yeah. No, no. Just mainly because they only had 9.5ft to begin with. Right. So the slabs sloped away from the home, both or all three directions. So it’s going to go to the side discharge of the homes. 30 00:11:20,870 --> 00:11:40,370 And then the same with the if it, you know, gets in and then rolls off the back, it’ll be in that, you know, general gutter in between the backyards of all the homes. So I don’t I don’t see it instance where this will affect the drainage at all. Um. Have you seen the first. Well. I’ve seen it, yeah. 31 00:11:40,370 --> 00:12:02,400 Does it meet? I mean, does it meet building code and everything? Uh. it’s it trending that I haven’t seen drawings. I don’t know about footings, any of that jazz. That’s another, uh, you know, avenue, but I know it is. Has beefed up over the since it was originally. Um, I don’t see it. 32 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:19,830 The only issue that I foresee might be the the footings of it, and then the connection to the house itself. Yeah. That’s why I brought it. Yeah. So it’s basically a roof over a patio then. Right? Right. Yeah. So this thing isn’t properly anchored. You blow off and hit somebody’s house or somebody else’s house or something. Isn’t it? Yeah. If it’s not, yeah. If there. Was just kind of a freestanding. 33 00:12:19,830 --> 00:12:38,370 Buildings or anything like. That, it’s just a freestanding roof structure. Right. There’s, there’s footings in the, in the slab. Statewide footings. So this thing is anchored then it’s not going to blow away or anything. Okay. 34 00:12:38,370 --> 00:13:14,230 But part of that, if this does go through approval, it’s going to go through the building permit portion and stuff like that. And that’ll verification. That to me. Code. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Well good questions. Um anybody have anything else to add? Then. Yes. Um, if you wish to ask a question, could you come up front and just. It. To open the public hearing? Hearing? Oh, yeah. Open, open. The public hearing. Oh, look at that. Hello. 35 00:13:14,230 --> 00:13:30,930 My name is Jeremy. I have is. Right behind them. So our property is. So this. One to me. I just wanted to ask one question. If they. Get a. Zero variance with that affect our property in any way. We still no offense. On our property. If we wanted to or I could. 36 00:13:30,930 --> 00:13:43,070 I can answer that one. Yeah. So if you were going to build a fence because the fence would have to solely be on your property, not it can’t, you know, be over the center of it, just theirs. It can’t be on the center. 37 00:13:43,070 --> 00:13:56,930 It’ll have to, you know, show and measure, but you’ll be able to still build a fence. It’ll just be. It will be right there. Yep, yep. So you’re from are you’re fine with it then as the neighbor behind it most affected. Yeah okay. Yeah. As long as everything’s on their property. 38 00:13:56,930 --> 00:14:20,370 Yep I they can have a zero degrees okay, okay. All right. Thank you. Okay. Great. Anybody else in the public want to speak? Is very unconventional meeting, I’m sure, for you. Oh. No, I don’t get kids. Oh, they’ve been speaking all along, so that’s okay. So with that. Little excitement is good. 39 00:14:20,370 --> 00:14:50,370 That’s great. With that, I will close the public hearing. And I would entertain a motion from the Planning Commission. I’ll make a motion to approve. I’ll second that. I’ll second it, providing it passes all the the stuff it needs to. Look, I don’t know the terms, but like the measurements and footings and all that stuff, all. 40 00:14:50,370 --> 00:15:14,770 The conditions. Yeah, conditions. All conditions are laid out. Yeah. Okay. So motion made, motion seconded. Mr. Baker, will you please call the roll. Commissioners? Cobbs. I Julian. A coil. Hi, Goldstein. I chair Hanson. Hi. All right. So you’re on your way. Thank you. You’re welcome. Come on. 41 00:15:14,770 --> 00:15:36,100 This will go in front of the city council. The next meeting, which will be September 7th. Nope. September 8th. Okay. And we should plan to come to that to. Good idea. It would be a good idea. Yeah. 42 00:15:36,100 --> 00:16:04,500 Um, is there any way I can get a copy of the letter that, um, you have from the HOA? Yeah, you could you could also go online. We’ll have it on the website. The whole the whole packets on the website. Yep. Mhm. Yeah. All right. All right. So with that now we have something more sedate. 43 00:16:04,500 --> 00:16:24,900 We have an amendment to the comprehensive plan for and the zoning map amendment and conditional use permit for a child daycare facility. Use within substance church substance, church. So, uh, with that. I’ll be turning this over to Beth with Stantec. Look at Beth. Hi, commissioners. I’m Beth Elliott from Stantec. I’ll be representing this item tonight. 44 00:16:24,900 --> 00:16:47,070 We have the applicants here, and they’ll be happy to answer any questions. Um, it’s a long packet and a lot of detail in it. Um, for what is a pretty simple request. Um, there’s officially three actions that you can take tonight. Um, the actions are recommendations, and then the city council makes the final decision. Um, so the actions are first. 45 00:16:47,070 --> 00:17:15,330 Um, uh, well, let me explain what this is. So Substance Church would like to add a 5000 square foot daycare center in their 104,000 square foot, um, building. Um, and the daycare center requires one an amendment to the comprehensive plan. 46 00:17:15,330 --> 00:17:41,600 Um, they the current future land use designation is for commercial industrial, which is defined in your comprehensive plan is generally for industrial. Uh, and uh, the amendment would be to redesign the future land use as commercial, uh, the second application would be a rezoning request. Uh, currently the site is zoned, um, I-1, uh, industrial, light industrial. And they would need the C-1 shopping center commercial district for rezoning. 47 00:17:41,600 --> 00:18:07,600 And then the third is conditional use permit, um, specifically for a daycare center in that zoning category. So the sequence of this is important. Um, there is no need for a comprehensive plan amendment. If you do not support the rezoning. So you can make, uh, uh, there’s finding a fact for each of the applications as well as conditions. The conditions are pretty standard conditions. 48 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:34,300 There isn’t anything out of the ordinary with the conditions for the conditional use permit. Um, so the actions tonight can be to, uh, approve the three applications, um, with the findings or support identified in the, um staff report and or to table it, uh, to another meeting or to deny the applications. 49 00:18:34,300 --> 00:18:57,200 Um, I am happy to answer any questions. I, I believe most people should know where the property is. The property is three parcels north of where we’re sitting right now. Um, the current use is surrounded generally by commercial uses as, uh, your staff planners, we have deemed inappropriate that the, uh, future land use category in the current plan changes to 50 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:19,070 commercial based on the adjacency of the other commercial uses. Similar the zoning from industrial to commercial is appropriate for the use that there now as well as the introduction of the daycare center. And again, the conditional use permit is specifically for daycare centers. 51 00:19:19,070 --> 00:19:41,070 Um, like I said, there’s a lot of details in here. There is a map of where the site is on page two of your staff report. It’s figure one. Um, the property address is 8299 Center Avenue. And, um, there’s like I said, a lot more details on happy to answer any questions. 52 00:19:41,070 --> 00:20:08,670 As I said, it’s a pretty simple request, but there’s a lot of complicating factors in, um, arriving through these applications. And in approval or in the management. All right. Thank you. Well. I look to the brain trust here for all the questions. You know, they got them. I thought the packet was pretty thorough. It’s off. 53 00:20:08,670 --> 00:20:31,030 When I get it. Kind of answered all my questions, and then she just reiterated everything I had. I mean, I don’t have anything. He. Applicant does have representatives here. If anyone does have questions for that. Okay. Um, well with that, will the applicant please step forward, please state your name and your address, and you’re representing. 54 00:20:31,030 --> 00:20:46,530 Yeah. Well, good evening, commissioners. Thank you. For. Having us here. My name is Rick Frith. I’m a member of the board of directors for Substance Church at 8299 Central Avenue. 55 00:20:46,530 --> 00:21:03,630 And, um, we, uh, with me this evening is Nate Pacini, who’s our executive pastor for Substance Church, as well as Emily Lambert, who is a member of our children’s staff and will also be the director of the Child Care Initiative. Um, I mean, Beth covered really well, as you said, the packet. We try to be a thorough as possible. 56 00:21:03,630 --> 00:21:16,930 Um, we have certainly appreciated all the effort that, um, Dan and, um, Evan and Wanda and others have put on our behalf with this, and we’ve enjoyed working with them on the application. And really, it’s, you know, our purpose of bringing this is like the packet said, is to bring the long term land use in line with what’s been approved for how it’s being used. 57 00:21:16,930 --> 00:21:32,570 Um, and so obviously the packet details that out. Um, and then really the, the child care facility, effort is really an extension of who we are as a church. And in seeking to use that facility, not just on the weekends with all the child care facilities and things we have, but to use that throughout the week. 58 00:21:32,570 --> 00:21:46,970 Uh, as an extension of really providing for the families here at Spring Lake Park. So, um, we appreciate your consideration. And, and we’re happy to answer any questions. And I would say one last thing. 59 00:21:46,970 --> 00:22:03,330 Just more broadly, you know, we we are really hoping to continue to deepen our relationship with Spring Lake Park and to be a good neighbor, a good partner in this community and serving the families in this area. And so our hope is that this is even one more step in building relationship further with the team here, with all of you, and really being a positive influence for Spring Lake Park. 60 00:22:03,330 --> 00:22:30,000 So, um, happy to answer your questions. Refresh my memory in case I missed it, please. Yes, child daycare, do you have an age limit? An age limit? So yeah, for starting out, we’re looking specifically at birth through like pre-K, preschool ages. 61 00:22:30,000 --> 00:23:12,670 So we have programs up to locally considered prekindergarten or pre-K. Um, but this wouldn’t be, um, high school programs or anything like that. So this the daycare would be focused on the couple months old or so that from birth through a preschool. Do you anticipate possibly at a later stage? I mean, I’m looking at. 62 00:23:12,670 --> 00:23:35,570 For elementary, I mean, as you get established in that and, um, get a reputation and this is a place to go, I have to believe you’re going to have parents and children that say, well, can Sally come after school five days a week til like 530 or something? Yeah. So is that something that you anticipate? Possibly. 63 00:23:35,570 --> 00:23:53,070 Yeah, it’s a it’s a great question. And certainly this is the first step to see, you know, going through the licensing process with the state of Minnesota is a good one for us to make sure that we’ve got good policies, procedures, safety components in place. 64 00:23:53,070 --> 00:24:09,730 Because whenever you’re navigating stuff with children, we want to make sure that we’ve got all the necessary components already in place from that base. Then we believe there’s opportunity for us to consider opening up more programs for after school, school age, things like that. 65 00:24:09,730 --> 00:24:26,270 Um, certainly those are pieces that we would want to work closely with the city to say, okay, this child care facility is going well. What would this look like for us to have more age groups here for more days, things like that, and just ensure we’re growing well with what the city needs and what that building can, uh, can accommodate? Um, because you’re absolutely right. 66 00:24:26,270 --> 00:24:45,430 I mean, part of the goal is just providing a great, safe environment for children and a place for families to feel really confident with the care to be provided. And if you build that reputation and you build those relationships, it’d be great to continue those on for many, many years. Right? So and it’s not limited to only church members. 67 00:24:45,430 --> 00:25:04,770 Correct? Not at all. No. We’ve gone through the licensing process in a way where we’re abiding by everything the state of Minnesota requires to be a public open to the public. Um, child care facility. Okay. How many kids are you looking to accommodate that, this facility? Yeah. Great question. 68 00:25:04,770 --> 00:25:20,670 Based on the facilities currently, um, and the staffing requirements by the state. And one of the things we came up against is the number of toilets in the child area. 69 00:25:20,670 --> 00:25:35,630 We decided to cap it at 42, with the goal of getting a sense of how many families get engaged, how many children would you take on? And if we see some good momentum, then there’s value in us investing in running some more plumbing and putting in some more kids bathrooms. Again, part of that component is certainly the safety of the children. We have other bathrooms in the building. We just don’t want anybody from the child care facility to have to go back to the church office. 70 00:25:35,630 --> 00:25:52,070 We want everything in that wing. And so if it becomes something we say, yeah, there’s great opportunity to serve more families, then we’ll invest some resources to put in more toilets and grow from there. 71 00:25:52,070 --> 00:26:08,130 Um, the playground that we have on the east, uh, to the east side of the property does have a square footage that limits us at about 72 students. So that would be kind of a next threshold if we can solve the toilet, uh, numbers for the state, then we can maybe go up to 72 and we can get continue to see more families that are engaged in that. 72 00:26:08,130 --> 00:26:22,530 Then we start to have bigger conversations with the city about expanding the playground, other things like that. But is there a long term thought of this becoming a private school at some point? It’s a great question. I mean, education is very much close to our heart as a church, and we have even home school groups that are part of our community. 73 00:26:22,530 --> 00:26:39,770 And so we also have a campus in Bloomington that was a former college campus that we’re dreaming about. What it would look like to build education initiatives like school, um, all all of your college age. 74 00:26:39,770 --> 00:26:57,170 So I don’t have definitive plans to give you, but it’s a part of this sequence of events where this is a first step. Because of the facility we have. Um, and then kind of seeing what families respond to. And so it’s a down the road possibility is what you’re saying. Yeah. Okay. Fair enough. I was just wondering. You know, it’s a great question. Okay. I have. A questions. 75 00:26:57,170 --> 00:27:25,470 All right. I guess I’ll just make a comment because when I working here, looking across the parking lot, the school district has that facility now with the playground and back with the kids over there and all that. And, um. I guess in my mind, it seems okay. 76 00:27:25,470 --> 00:27:47,900 We start talking, uh, industrial, commercial and all these zoning things and all that. Well, we sort of have a mini campus like this right next to City Hall, and we’re looking at, well, okay, we want one. 77 00:27:47,900 --> 00:28:15,630 It might have a couple more kids, but the kids are going to be younger and we’re just going to skip across the wetlands a little bit, and we’re going to have another one. Um, so I just a comment to my observation at settles my mind and that where well, shoot, we got kids on playground over here. Well, it’s affiliated with district 16 though, and this would be a separate entity. Yeah. Right. But yeah, nothing wrong with it, you know. Yeah. Right. 78 00:28:15,630 --> 00:28:42,270 Well, didn’t. And this is just, kind of a side question. Didn’t a few years ago, didn’t we prove something for Substance Church in regards to some, uh, like homes or like, you know, many homes on the property, do you recall that at all, Mr. Baker? There was a that. Was a state man state mandate. 79 00:28:42,270 --> 00:29:01,470 That was was sent out that had to get, uh, written into the code for all. I remember, some substances coming. I believe places of worship. I don’t I don’t remember the exact verbiage, but it was a it was a mandate from the state to allow the certain distance from the, you know, it could be, I 80 00:29:01,470 --> 00:29:18,530 guess, like a tiny home. Right. But it had to be a certain distance away for restroom facilities and such like that is just trying to get that going within the entire state of Minnesota. It wasn’t Spring Lake Park specific. Oh, okay. 81 00:29:18,530 --> 00:29:30,570 It’s possible that our playground project, which I think maybe would work with you on, you maybe heard of that. I got wind of that because we did build an outdoor playground on the east side of the property. We corresponded a bit with the city on the plans and the setbacks. 82 00:29:30,570 --> 00:29:44,130 Again, it was kind of with an eye towards this to say, let’s make sure if we put in a fenced in playground that the fence is big enough, that it’s set back enough of the property line just to so we don’t find ourselves having to relocate a big playground, you know, place it for the kids. 83 00:29:44,130 --> 00:30:09,730 So maybe that’s what you heard, but nothing else that we’ve brought kind of brought to the city council. Okay, okay. Any other questions? Um, no, I don’t have any at this time. Then I thank you, young man. Thank you, sir. And I will open the public hearing. 84 00:30:09,730 --> 00:30:40,130 So anybody public wants to come forward, I see some, uh, somebody sitting behind you there. He’s Mister public. Oh. Oh, okay. He’s not allowed to speak. Not by me. Just, you know. Uh, then with that, I will close the public hearing and entertain a motion. We need three. Separate motions. Or can we do it in. One? Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. 85 00:30:40,130 --> 00:31:12,630 All right, I’ll make a motion to approve the Comprehensive Plan amendment. The rezoning request and the conditional use permit for substance. Church. Um, with with the conditions and, um, listed in the memo. I’ll second that motion. Okay. It’s a motion made. Motion. Seconded. Mr. Baker, you get to call the roll again. Commissioner Cobbs. Hi, Julian. Coyle. 86 00:31:12,630 --> 00:31:36,130 Hi, Goldstein. Hi, chair. Hansen. Hi. So there you go. You got you got to us. Just like the last. It’ll be on the. The 8th of September is the next council meeting. Then it goes in front of the city council for the final approval table. All of the same things. Yeah. 87 00:31:36,130 --> 00:32:04,330 So for this next, uh, this next meeting to put on your your suit and tie the. All right, well, uh, then with that, that takes care of all the public hearing meetings. We’ve got another, uh, item on the agenda for the council board. Commission comprehensive plan survey chair. 88 00:32:04,330 --> 00:32:28,400 And let me get this pulled up real quick. Uh, the memo in there, I’ll just read it. It, uh, Dan had sent this out, uh, to the planning commission, the city council, and, uh, Parks and Rec commission as well. And it’s a 2050 comprehensive plan visioning survey should take you 15. 89 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:45,470 I did it, they sent it out to department heads as well. It took me a little longer, 25, but I tried to put as much thought into it. It’s I don’t I don’t remember how many questions it is, but it’s informative of what you as a representative of Spring Lake Park, would like to see. 90 00:32:45,470 --> 00:33:01,970 You know, between that and the 2050. So, um, in the packet, you’ll see it does have a QR code that brings you directly to the, uh, website. And the survey. And there’s some more. It’s. Yeah, it’s on the back page. Very should be the very I think it’s the very last page. We go. 91 00:33:01,970 --> 00:33:20,100 And that it’s anonymous and it goes brings you right to it. You don’t have to fill anything names. You’re just answering questions and such like that. Dan would really, really enjoy for everyone here to fill that out. And that is it. So we didn’t fill out anything like this before. Did we? I said. 92 00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:43,130 I don’t think not to this one. It was something that he created himself to try and see where. or where everyone was at to get engaged in, in be part of the, you know, planning of the future of Spring Lake Park. Okay. So. Submit your will, submit responses by September 8th. 93 00:33:43,130 --> 00:34:08,200 It says so then anybody who hasn’t submitted their responses by September 8th, that Mr. Baker will let me know. Look at me. Yeah. All right. Um. No, no, I’ll probably I’ll probably be the one that you let that give me. Give me, give me a hundred lashes with the wet noodle. And, uh, a little bit more. 94 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:28,400 Just like the last pack we had. There are a few more possibilities of, uh, Planning commission meeting. It’s just a matter of getting paperwork complete. Uh, it’s been, I don’t. Know, get on that. It’s it’s comes and then dies. 95 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:55,600 I, you know, all you hear is phone calls and emails four times a day to crickets for a while. So, uh, it could be next month or not. It’s okay. Well, is all this coming from the Metropolitan Commission? The the comp plan? Yeah, yeah. All the push. All this. Just the memo of getting that filled out is just to help fulfill the 2050 comp plan. 96 00:34:55,600 --> 00:35:12,300 The planning the other, uh, items that are coming to planning and zoning is just other properties within the city. Nothing to do with the comp plan. Oh, okay. I was just letting you know that it might be coming through. It’s just they’re struggling a little bit to have complete applications turned in. 97 00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:38,800 So I’m working with Evan, with Stantec, Wanda and Dan, and, uh, we’ll see where it. Goes. All right, all right. Well, then, uh, with that, since there’s no more no activity we got to do on that, then I would entertain a motion to adjourn unless somebody else has something to say. I’ll make a motion to adjourn. Motion to adjourn? Over here. 98 00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:38,800 Second motion seconded. All in favor, say aye. Aye aye. All right, we’re finished. If I were to say nay, would we have to keep talking?