1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,320 It's 5:02 and we are at the Canyon 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:03,840 Community Center 3 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:05,440 for the May 20th meeting of the 4 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,400 Springdale Planning Commission. 5 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,040 Um, good evening and welcome to 6 00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:13,240 tonight's meeting. I'm Terry Kusky. I am 7 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:15,560 the vice chair of the Springdale 8 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,360 Planning Commission. The chairman is out 9 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:18,920 this week. 10 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:20,880 Um, so I'll be running the meetings. 11 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:23,760 Um, from the town we have Tom Dansey 12 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:28,640 and Al Connelly and April Red 13 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,000 Sorry about that. April Redez, right? 14 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,080 And um 15 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:34,920 and Kendall Lusebrink. 16 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:38,320 And on the diocese here, we have um Rich 17 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,280 Swanson, Paul Zimmerman, um Matt Fink 18 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,640 from the National Park Service, 19 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,600 and myself, Terry Kusky. 20 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,760 Um 21 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:49,960 So, 22 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:51,640 uh so I think we have a quorum and we're 23 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:53,240 ready to go, right? 24 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:56,320 Uh absent Oh, yeah. So, absent is uh Tom 25 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:57,720 Kenniston, 26 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,560 um Kosh Bhatti, um Melissa uh Laborn, 27 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,040 and um 28 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:04,480 Jennifer McCollum, 29 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,200 who is the chairman. 30 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:08,560 Um 31 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,000 So, do we have a motion for approval of 32 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:12,320 tonight's agenda? 33 00:01:12,320 --> 00:01:15,920 I move that we tonight's agenda. Second. 34 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,800 Okay, motion by Rich, second by Paul. 35 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,600 All in favor? Rich, I. Terry, I. Al, I. 36 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,080 We are ready. 37 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,920 Um, does the town have any general 38 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,990 announcements? 39 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:33,560 I have one and um yeah, one item in 40 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,800 relation to action item A2. 41 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,200 Uh we had proposed at the last meeting 42 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:40,120 that 43 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,200 we were going to cancel the June 3rd 44 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,320 Planning Commission work meeting. 45 00:01:44,320 --> 00:01:47,400 Uh we're proposing not to cancel that 46 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,080 Thursday. There's a design development 47 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:50,160 review 48 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:51,560 um 49 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,920 that needs to be reviewed at that, so 50 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,800 um 51 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,360 Yeah, so that 52 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,280 no longer needs to be an action item. 53 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,760 Okay. So, the town will have a resources 54 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,840 available for that meeting then? 55 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,520 Yes. 56 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:09,920 I know the on the play I already made 57 00:02:09,920 --> 00:02:13,110 plans. 58 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,280 Sorry. 59 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,160 Okay. 60 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,230 Any other announcements? 61 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:21,640 Okay. 62 00:02:21,640 --> 00:02:23,480 Um does anybody wish to 63 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,720 declare any conflicts with today's uh 64 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:27,840 agenda items? 65 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:28,800 No? 66 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,440 I don't see that. Okay. So, for 67 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,680 tonight's agenda we have 68 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,720 well, now one action item. 69 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,880 Um which is the public hearing for a 70 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:41,120 transient lodging overlay zone 71 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,560 application. 72 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,959 Um and then additionally there is a 73 00:02:45,959 --> 00:02:48,520 consent item to approve the meeting 74 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,560 minutes from the March 4th meeting. 75 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:52,880 Um 76 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,920 so for the public meeting 77 00:02:54,920 --> 00:02:56,880 I'd like to just uh 78 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,239 go over a little bit here. Um 79 00:02:59,239 --> 00:03:01,120 the some of the rules. The rules are on 80 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,160 the back of the agenda if anybody wants 81 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:05,880 to review them in detail. 82 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:07,519 Um 83 00:03:07,519 --> 00:03:09,280 we there will be opportunities for the 84 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,920 public to speak and ask questions during 85 00:03:11,920 --> 00:03:14,920 the public hearing. We will announce 86 00:03:14,920 --> 00:03:16,040 time. 87 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,120 Um and 88 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,400 anyone wishing to make a statement 89 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,760 please come to the podium and speak into 90 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:24,120 the microphone. 91 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:27,000 Um we ask that all attendees register at 92 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:28,959 the back table there so we can have an 93 00:03:28,959 --> 00:03:31,000 accurate representation of of who is 94 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,000 here and who is speaking. 95 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,040 Um 96 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,360 the public comments are generally 97 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,880 limited to 3 minutes per person. Um 98 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,560 And so I think we're about ready. 99 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,880 Um so the first item is a um 100 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,440 public hearing for the transient overlay 101 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,840 zone application at 975 Zion Park 102 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:54,240 Boulevard. 103 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:55,440 Um 104 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,760 So, this is I believe Nile, this is your 105 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,960 item. Do you have a presentation for us? 106 00:03:59,960 --> 00:04:01,280 Thank you. 107 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,120 So, this item is for zone change and a 108 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:07,080 public hearing hearing as you indicated. 109 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,320 Um 110 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,040 So, the applicant is Miss Mrs. Trista 111 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,920 Rayner and she's applied for the 112 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,320 transient lodging overlay zone to be 113 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:18,480 applied to her property at 975 114 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,079 Zion Park Boulevard. 115 00:04:21,079 --> 00:04:22,640 Uh the property is in the central 116 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,640 commercial zone and so it's eligible 117 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,160 um for the transient lodging overlay 118 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:29,680 zone. 119 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,880 Um 120 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,480 The application window for the transient 121 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,880 lodging over overlay zone 122 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,480 uh comes every 2 years in even years 123 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,200 during the month of March. 124 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,560 So, we had the application window open 125 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:48,640 recently during March 2026. 126 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,840 The town received one application and 127 00:04:50,840 --> 00:04:53,200 this is um the application that you're 128 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,350 reviewing this evening. 129 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:57,560 Um 130 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:59,080 The property 131 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,800 just pull up an aerial view. 132 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,720 Uh the property's currently developed 133 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:06,560 with Mimi's Cafe at the front of the 134 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,320 property. Uh there's a second restaurant 135 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,400 building behind that which is vacant. Um 136 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,320 there are also six town homes that are 137 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:17,520 used as vacation rentals. 138 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,919 Uh the proposal involves demolishing 139 00:05:20,919 --> 00:05:23,320 this restaurant building at the rear 140 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,400 that's vacant at the moment 141 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,520 and replacing it with a new building 142 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:30,160 that would house four transient lodging 143 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,800 units and two long-term rental units. 144 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,000 Um the application includes draft plans 145 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,200 of the proposed new building. 146 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,280 So, the commission should review the 147 00:05:43,280 --> 00:05:45,280 application to determine whether or not 148 00:05:45,280 --> 00:05:47,120 it promotes the aims 149 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,240 of the general plan and the purposes of 150 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,240 the transient lodging overlay zone. 151 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,560 The commission should then make 152 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,400 recommendations to the town council to 153 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,960 either approve or deny the application. 154 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,640 I have a few just points to for your 155 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:06,200 consideration 156 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:07,960 before handing it over. 157 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,600 Um 158 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,400 the transient lodging overlay zone 159 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,680 chapter of the code includes application 160 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,800 standards and also review criteria. 161 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,200 So, the application standards are more 162 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,720 kind of quantifiable what makes a 163 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:24,760 complete application. 164 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,200 And then the the review criteria are 165 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:28,560 more 166 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,120 qualitative questions about, you know, 167 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,480 does this 168 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,919 proposal meet the vision of the general 169 00:06:34,919 --> 00:06:37,919 plan and supports the general plan's 170 00:06:37,919 --> 00:06:41,640 vision for transient lodging. 171 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,880 Uh the applicants provided responses to 172 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,480 those questions and they're in the staff 173 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:48,600 report. 174 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,480 Um secondly, uh the the overlay zone 175 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,680 requires one long-term rental unit for 176 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,240 every four lodging units. 177 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,520 Um and so, you'll see that the applicant 178 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,080 is provide is proposing 179 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,400 four 180 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,240 nightly rental units and two long-term 181 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:07,640 rental units. 182 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:08,760 So, 183 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,320 because they're exceeding that by one 184 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,720 unit, there's an extra 185 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,480 long-term rental. 186 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,280 Um 187 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,760 their their application 188 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:21,960 um 189 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,480 requests that only one of those units be 190 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:26,640 um 191 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,400 tied to the restrictive covenant that 192 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,200 both of the units would be long-term 193 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:32,760 rental units. 194 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:34,880 But, um 195 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,880 the the chapter the code requires that 196 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,760 the long-term rental unit that you use 197 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,120 um 198 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,960 or that that is implied in the trans 199 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:46,920 geological overlay zone 200 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:50,760 can't be tied to to the to the trans 201 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:54,640 geological unit, so can't be used as a 202 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:55,760 um 203 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,440 property manager or that kind of thing. 204 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,480 Um so they're requesting that the second 205 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,320 unit because it's not actually required 206 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,160 by the code would um 207 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,720 would not have that restriction on it 208 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,800 just in the event that they did want to 209 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,840 have a property manager there. 210 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,120 Um 211 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,760 two public comments have been received. 212 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,680 Uh one of them was included in the 213 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,640 application pack and then the other one 214 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,120 was forwarded 215 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,200 uh this afternoon. 216 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:25,680 Um 217 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,080 and then 218 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:29,919 finally the application pack includes 219 00:08:29,919 --> 00:08:32,039 drawings uh showing the proposed 220 00:08:32,039 --> 00:08:33,200 building. 221 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:34,800 Uh however 222 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,960 the eagle-eyed commissioners may have 223 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,640 noticed that one of the elevations is 224 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,840 missing and I apologize for that. Uh but 225 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,120 just for your reference, this is the 226 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:45,000 missing elevation. 227 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,080 Um so it's it's in the same style as as 228 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,000 the others, but um 229 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,280 just wanted to bring that up because I I 230 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:53,640 had admitted to include that in the 231 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,160 pack. 232 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,400 Um so I'd be happy to answer any 233 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,240 questions. Obviously the applicant is 234 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,600 here and she's ready to 235 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:06,350 uh explain her proposal, too. 236 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:07,720 Um would the applicant like to make a 237 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:10,829 presentation? 238 00:09:10,839 --> 00:09:13,400 Hi, Trista Rayner. 239 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,760 I'm the owner at 975 Zane Park 240 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,240 Boulevard. 241 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,120 Thank you for 242 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,800 accepting my application and giving me a 243 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,400 chance to talk to you tonight. Um 244 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:24,400 we 245 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,680 had a submission in 2024, the first year 246 00:09:27,680 --> 00:09:31,160 that you guys had the TLO overlay 247 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,720 meetings. Um 248 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:36,360 Anyway, we took all the input and 249 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,600 feedback we got from the town meetings 250 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,800 into this new design. So, we really 251 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,640 listened on scale of building, style of 252 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:46,000 building, making it more harmonious with 253 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,720 the surroundings, and having more park 254 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,160 architecture, 255 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,080 and landscaping. Um 256 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,160 so, I I hope we accomplished that, too. 257 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:56,720 The suggestions that were made last 258 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:57,840 time. 259 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:01,040 Um forgive me for reading a a couple of 260 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,520 these, but it'll be very hard for me to 261 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,360 get through my thoughts without a couple 262 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:05,226 of notes. 263 00:10:05,226 --> 00:10:06,120 >> [laughter] 264 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,800 >> Um this building is currently vacant on 265 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,360 the property, and for those of you who 266 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,160 may not be familiar with our original 267 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:13,680 application, 268 00:10:13,680 --> 00:10:15,800 um 269 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,160 this building, although wonderful, was 270 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,440 built with aerated recycled concrete, 271 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,160 and um 272 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:26,200 it does not lend itself to remodeling, 273 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,360 or adding on, or changing. Like, if we 274 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,080 even took a window out, we would have a 275 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,120 problem with the building. So, although 276 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:37,720 that was excellent for the building initially, it is not um 277 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,800 able to be like remodeled into something 278 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,320 differently, which is why it's been 279 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,360 vacant for so long. Um so, we hope to 280 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:45,600 rebuild the vacant building on the 281 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,920 property, um like I said, more park-like 282 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,680 architecture with rock, metal, and 283 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:51,240 stucco. 284 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,720 The design elements include 285 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,480 replacing the large It's a modern 286 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,280 building now with very large windows, 287 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,720 massive windows. Um so, our new design 288 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,920 elements include smaller residential 289 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,320 windows, 290 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,360 as well as um 291 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:07,880 the added expense of building an 292 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:09,320 internal 293 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,680 breezeway, and internal walkways, which 294 00:11:11,680 --> 00:11:13,680 we hope will benefit benefit the night 295 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:16,200 sky ordinance by not having these on the 296 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,040 outside. 297 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,680 The new building also has stepped-back 298 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:24,520 walls. Um that internal breezeway in the 299 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,320 center breaks up the front facade, 300 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,400 and there's numerous patios and 301 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,120 balconies um to create more open space, 302 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,560 rather than a a very large box type 303 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:35,920 building. 304 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,200 Um 305 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:38,600 for those of you aren't familiar with 306 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,680 our property, it slopes significantly 307 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:46,080 from SR-9 down to this property site. 308 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:49,120 So, the new building pad is actually 8 309 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,200 ft lower than Zion Park Park Boulevard 310 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,720 and 5 ft lower than Mimi's Cafe um 311 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,240 and 3 ft lower than the adjacent Canyon 312 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,080 Offering's property. 313 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,400 So, with this rebuild um we feel that 314 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,320 the natural skyline and vistas will be 315 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,280 unaffected um 316 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,520 and the new building will blend in 317 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,800 um more harmoniously with the 318 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,400 surrounding properties and buildings. 319 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,350 Um 320 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:18,640 the redesign gave us a larger TLO 321 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,840 residential unit, but it also gave us an 322 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,000 opportunity to build a second much 323 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,670 needed residential 324 00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:29,680 and on that being a long-term rental 325 00:12:29,680 --> 00:12:30,280 um 326 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,720 potentially employee housing. We don't 327 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,440 have an on-site manager now. I oversee 328 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,160 everything personally, 329 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,360 but in the future should the need arise, 330 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,040 that gives us an opportunity maybe to 331 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:45,160 have an on-site manager, which would be great. 332 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:46,440 Um 333 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,960 the two residential units 334 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,480 make up 43% 335 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,680 of the living space. 336 00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:56,760 Each residential unit is 916 337 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:57,920 ft 338 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,400 and will feel more like an owned space 339 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,200 versus a rental. 340 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,280 We intend to have upgraded amenities, 341 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,240 private laundry facilities for each 342 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,600 unit, patio and balcony spaces making it 343 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,400 as residential as we can in the 344 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,280 commercial zone for those for those 345 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:15,800 residents. 346 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,680 Um we've also taken extra efforts to 347 00:13:18,680 --> 00:13:20,280 build 348 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,040 to do the rebuild design facing away 349 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,480 from our most um adjacent neighbor, 350 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:27,480 which is Laura Dody. 351 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,840 Um so, the building faces Juniper Lane. 352 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,840 You would enter through the center, 353 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,640 through the breezeway, and then go into 354 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,360 the internal um corridors. 355 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,760 The backside will be first story and 356 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,480 second story will be residential units. 357 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,640 So, those will back against Laura Dody's 358 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:48,000 property. 359 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,400 And additionally, we put our utility and 360 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,640 storage closets 361 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,640 adjacent to her residential so that 362 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:57,920 there would be 363 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,400 minimal um impact for her. In fact, 364 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:01,560 it'll be 365 00:14:01,560 --> 00:14:04,080 much better than the current zoned use 366 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,400 for her, and she's very happy with that. 367 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:08,920 If you haven't had a chance to look at 368 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:13,960 her letter, her letter is excellent. If maybe I could even read it. Um she 369 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,520 couldn't be here tonight, so. 370 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,600 Um with our current lodging, just to 371 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,480 give you some information about us, we 372 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:22,360 don't we choose not to maximize our 373 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,320 occupancy on the property um to lower 374 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,040 the impact on our property and on town 375 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:29,600 resources. 376 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,160 Our guests love staying in the center of 377 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:33,440 town. The biggest compliment we receive 378 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,560 is that they feel like locals staying in 379 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:37,480 the community and supporting our local 380 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,000 businesses. That's a really unique 381 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,160 opportunity to provide 382 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:46,080 residential style rentals to both 383 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,160 long-term residents and people visiting. 384 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,880 Um 385 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,480 It's pretty unique for the downtown 386 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:53,800 area. 387 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,640 Um most of our car uh guests do not 388 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,440 utilize their cars during their stay, 389 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:00,560 which is an added bonus. They even walk 390 00:15:00,560 --> 00:15:02,280 to the park, which I think it's too far 391 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:06,640 to walk, but they do walk to the park. Um Our 392 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:08,520 goal is to provide a variety of mixed 393 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:13,200 uses on the property, so we built 18 um 394 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,280 townhomes in the back, which were sold 395 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,320 as residential townhomes. We have a 396 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,760 residential overlay on the property. 397 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,360 And half of those, I'm happy to say, are 398 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:25,120 in turn re-rented out to local workers, 399 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:27,160 which is awesome. 400 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:28,880 Um 401 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,320 we're trying to do village scale 402 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:32,960 protecting um 403 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:34,920 Springdale and avoiding the consumptive 404 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,800 tourism by not building to ordinance 405 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,320 maximums. 406 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,760 This proposed building size is 38% 407 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:44,840 smaller than X, 408 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,480 which are two bedrooms. Those count for 409 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,280 12, I suppose, plus four. 410 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,680 All of that um is 20% lower. The 411 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,960 transient number of units is 20% lower 412 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:57,680 than than the town ordinance as well. 413 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:01,320 Um we have a unique opportunity to bring 414 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,800 this mix into Springdale's commercial 415 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:04,800 core. 416 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,440 It's very important for workers to be 417 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,400 able to live in town. 418 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,800 We employ many people who commute from 419 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,800 out of town, so we're excited to provide 420 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,160 this opportunity of two residential 421 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:16,400 units. 422 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:17,640 Um 423 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,440 bringing the residential and small-scale 424 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,480 lodging also supports our local 425 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,280 businesses, which is needed year-round. 426 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:25,360 Um 427 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:27,160 this also supports Springdale locals and 428 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,640 workers by having businesses there. 429 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:34,160 Our property is 1.18 acres and modest in 430 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,000 scale when compared to other properties 431 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,320 in central and village commercial. 432 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:39,560 Um 433 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,520 can we go back to the 434 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:45,710 Mimi's overhead 435 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:51,550 or aerial view? 436 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,480 Great, thank you. 437 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:55,680 So um 438 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,040 the town homes that are in the back have 439 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,720 a 1,000 square foot footprint each. 440 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,040 Mimi's Cafe has a 2,000 the building 441 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,079 Mimi's Cafe building has a 2,000 square 442 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:07,120 foot 443 00:17:07,120 --> 00:17:10,400 footprint. And the rest the second 444 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,199 restaurant building 445 00:17:12,199 --> 00:17:19,120 with the patios, I believe it's close to four 4,000, maybe 3,700. 446 00:17:19,120 --> 00:17:21,480 We're proposing that to be $2,600. So, 447 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,360 it'll be or 2,600 2,600 square feet. 448 00:17:24,360 --> 00:17:26,400 It'll be a smaller footprint than what's 449 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,880 currently currently there. 450 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:31,720 We've done our best to try to maximize 451 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:32,600 um 452 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,920 the ability to remodel that building and 453 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,160 it just isn't going to work. So, 454 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,840 unfortunately um 455 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:42,960 starting over is really the only the 456 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,360 only way we can see that we can develop 457 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:46,840 on the property 458 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,400 um and not have a vacant building. 459 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,600 um 460 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,680 All of the plans will not affect any 461 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,560 sewer water. 462 00:17:55,560 --> 00:18:00,040 Um most of the connections are just to 463 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:01,680 the right of the building in the 464 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,720 driveway, so further down 465 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:07,480 to the right. Like next to Mimi or next 466 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:08,440 to 467 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,552 the vacant. Yeah, no. Well, anyway, 468 00:18:12,552 --> 00:18:12,960 >> [laughter] 469 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,400 >> just to the right of the vacant 470 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,640 building. Um along 471 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,080 like where our trash dumpster is is 472 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,560 where the Yeah, that's where all the 473 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:23,040 sewer connections are. So, we don't 474 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,240 foresee any closing of the road or 475 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,200 impact to um infrastructure with this 476 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,680 rebuild. 477 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:32,760 Um 478 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:34,800 The building 479 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,640 already is in the central commercial 480 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,840 zone and even comparing it to buildings 481 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:41,760 in village commercial 482 00:18:41,760 --> 00:18:43,600 we have less 483 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,520 density for transient lodging. Our 484 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,680 buildings are also smaller scale when 485 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,360 compared to you know, Soul Foods. I 486 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:54,280 think their building is 12,000 square 487 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:55,440 feet. 488 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:59,280 Um the new Zion Guru building is I think 489 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,680 7,000 square feet in a 5,000 square foot 490 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:04,800 footprint. All great buildings. I'm just 491 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,560 pointing out like size differences. The 492 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,440 building it's most similar in style to 493 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,440 is probably Laura Dody's building built 494 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,960 next door. Um 495 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,520 in fact, if you added a second 496 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,720 residential unit to Laura Dodi's 497 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,560 property as it's being built under the 498 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,200 TLO application, it would be very 499 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,200 similar in size to what we're proposing. 500 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:33,150 Uh let's see. 501 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:33,773 Um 502 00:19:33,773 --> 00:19:35,080 >> [sighs] 503 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:38,120 >> part of uh remodeling the the building 504 00:19:38,120 --> 00:19:40,200 would give us an opportunity we would 505 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,600 like to have an opportunity to have a 506 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,280 revised landscaping plan. There's a lot 507 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:50,360 of hardscape on the property. Um we've proposed 508 00:19:50,360 --> 00:19:52,880 like a more formal bike 509 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,000 stand station and maybe rest area 510 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,880 with a drinking fountain possibly um and 511 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,040 also um the possibility of electric 512 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:03,760 charging stations if that's something 513 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,320 desirable by the town. We think both 514 00:20:06,320 --> 00:20:09,880 would add to the walkability of that 515 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,840 downtown area, give people a place to 516 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:13,680 stop, maybe go have lunch while their 517 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:15,880 car is charging, and support our local 518 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,440 businesses. 519 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,440 Um 520 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,920 I think that's up that's it for me. I I 521 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,400 look forward to hearing your feedback 522 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,910 and um 523 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:32,310 thank you for your time. 524 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:33,760 Uh is there any questions for the 525 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:35,640 applicant? 526 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,240 You mentioned it's a it's a remodel. Uh 527 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:39,440 you're not trying to stay in the same 528 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,600 footprint with my impression. You're 529 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,520 after remove the building and replace 530 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:44,480 it. 531 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:45,800 We're going to remove the building and 532 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,080 replace it, but it has if you can see on 533 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,600 the left and right, there's patio, 534 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:52,640 restaurant patio spaces, and those would 535 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,160 be reduced. So, it's essentially the 536 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:57,400 same footprint, but it'll be it'll be 537 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:58,640 smaller. 538 00:20:58,640 --> 00:20:59,920 Uh like we're we're trying to put the 539 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:02,280 building exactly where it was to 540 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,280 minimize impact, but um the footprint 541 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:06,920 will be smaller overall than the 542 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,760 restaurant's space with the patios. 543 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,480 Does that Is that what you were asking? 544 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,679 Yes. Okay. 545 00:21:12,679 --> 00:21:12,920 >> [laughter] 546 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,760 >> Um 547 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,040 So, uh 548 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,760 I I see there were stairs in the back, 549 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:19,040 and I believe there's an existing 550 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,520 basement in the building. The intent is 551 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,560 to retain the existing basement? 552 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,160 >> Yes, it would be It wouldn't be 553 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,240 cost-effective to try to 554 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,800 fix that. So, with that, it'll just be 555 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,800 used as additional storage, you know, 556 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,760 maybe laundry facilities something down 557 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:33,960 the line. 558 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,240 Yeah. So, there's no plans for um for 559 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,960 public or client access to that area? 560 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,880 >> No. No, not at all. No, none. 561 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,320 And um it looks like from the drawings 562 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,760 you're planning the similar parking 563 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,000 arrangements as the as your 2024 564 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,400 request. 565 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,640 Um yes. And 566 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,560 there's there's two 567 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,400 things about par- We We have, I think, 568 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,600 42 41 parking spots. We have 569 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,800 more than sufficient parking for two 570 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,880 restaurants or this proposal for 571 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,320 transient lodging and the restaurant. 572 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:11,640 Um 573 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,080 but in 2022, the town took away street 574 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:16,560 parking, 575 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:18,920 and um 576 00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,680 our parking, I don't know how many of 577 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,440 you A couple of you were at the 2024 578 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,200 meeting. 579 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,120 Taking away that street parking made it 580 00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:32,720 very hard for our disabled 581 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,640 patrons. It also is not obvious where to 582 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,720 park for Mimi's Cafe. So, what we're 583 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,880 proposing, and it doesn't have to look 584 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:41,440 like this. We I've been having 585 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,960 discussions with the town about this 586 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:45,640 could be smaller, this could be one-way 587 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,920 traffic, a lot of 588 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,520 we can make We definitely can have more 589 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,000 landscaping and less less asphalt in 590 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,000 this area, but what we're trying to do 591 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,240 is move our handicap parking and a few 592 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:01,880 spots closer to Mimi's Cafe, and then 593 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,160 even though we're still the ratio of 594 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,760 landscaping to building um 595 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:09,200 is still within the ordinance, what we'd 596 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,520 like to do is revisit what we have on 597 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,480 the property as a whole and perhaps add 598 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,360 more landscaping where parking is is not 599 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:19,560 going to be utilized anymore in the back 600 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:22,440 perhaps or along the side. 601 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,040 So. 602 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,520 Yes. 603 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,080 Some of those will will come out when we 604 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,200 do a design review. 605 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,080 Yeah. 606 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,080 So that'll be the same. Um 607 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,320 And and this parking is not subject to 608 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,000 us doing the transient lodging. We'd 609 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:41,600 really like to do this for Mimi's 610 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,320 regardless. We need to have parking 611 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,200 closer to our building. 612 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,320 Um 613 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,240 we just have not moved forward with it 614 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:49,920 because it seems like it could go in 615 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:51,760 conjunction with this and not have two 616 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,240 major remodels on the property. 617 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,280 But um 618 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,400 we do need to have that parking sooner 619 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,600 or later closer to Mimi's. 620 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,120 But that's a separate. We we have enough 621 00:24:02,120 --> 00:24:04,560 parking in the back to satisfy this this 622 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,160 application. 623 00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,440 If that makes sense. Yes, but I I tend 624 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,880 to agree that having parking closer to 625 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:14,600 the restaurant would be useful. Yeah, my own father-in-law can't come to 626 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,391 Mimi's unless I drive on the grass. 627 00:24:17,391 --> 00:24:18,320 >> [laughter] 628 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:19,360 >> It's a long walk for my mother. 629 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:22,440 >> It's a long walk and it's uphill. 630 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,400 Both ways. 631 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,240 So um 632 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,240 so the hand drawings that that you've 633 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:30,800 shown as your 634 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,760 architectural conceptual architecture 635 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,920 didn't have any dimensions on them, but 636 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,040 you you've mentioned now you're planning 637 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,000 about a 2,600 square foot footprint. 638 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,040 >> Footprint, right. Um for the new 639 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:46,160 building on top of the basement. Um Mhm. 640 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:47,720 So uh 641 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:48,720 first of all, I I 642 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,080 actually back I'd I'd like to thank you 643 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:51,640 for coming back and for your 644 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,280 thoughtfulness, time you've spent on 645 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:54,520 this. Um 646 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,400 we do want our commercial properties to 647 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,000 be successful 648 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,520 and and really and match with 649 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:03,240 the the goals of the general plan. So, 650 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,960 um overall I think um this is a much 651 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,920 better proposal and I'm I'm going to 652 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:09,400 compliment you on on your efforts in 653 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:10,600 coming back. 654 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:12,840 Um 655 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,680 one of the things I find very good about 656 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,080 this proposal is sort of the the new 657 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:18,600 design 658 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,720 approach to the building itself. Um 659 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,080 if we included as we make a 660 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,640 recommendation to town council if we 661 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,440 included a 662 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:29,560 potential 663 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,520 condition that the that the building 664 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,000 follow the basic design you've presented 665 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,240 here in terms of square footage and and 666 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,800 that, uh do you feel that you're 667 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,920 far enough along in your decision-making 668 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,480 that you can stick 669 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,880 to this basic design? 670 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,880 Uh yes. Yeah, a lot of thought went into 671 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,200 it, especially with putting the 672 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,560 residential units in the back. Something 673 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,800 um that I I forgot to mention is there 674 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,840 one not be any common walls with this 675 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,120 design with the interior interior 676 00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:00,440 corridor, 677 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,240 um which is really great for the 678 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,640 residential units as well as the uh 679 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,440 transient guests. But, yes, a lot of 680 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,360 thought has gone into it. The only thing 681 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:11,760 that I talked ideas for rock and stucco, 682 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,440 but um that was just as a general 683 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,440 example that we would definitely come 684 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,320 back with something 685 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,080 you know, very similar to what we 686 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:25,990 proposed today. 687 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,640 Yeah, I I had a question. Um I know you 688 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,040 were a little bit late in sending out 689 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,680 the uh request for or the notices to 690 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,040 your neighbors and that. Have you gotten 691 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,600 any response back from We've gotten two. 692 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,560 Um one was from a resident who lives in 693 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,680 the town homes that we developed on the 694 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:42,920 property. 695 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,680 Um and that was in support of it. Um 696 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,360 and then the second one was from Laura 697 00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:51,480 Dody. Okay. And um So, those are the two 698 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:51,960 that I think 699 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,800 >> comments, if if you don't mind, because 700 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:56,440 you didn't get to see Laura Dody's 701 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:57,800 letter. 702 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,230 Um 703 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,200 She has several points 704 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,360 in support of 705 00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:07,280 Do you have her letter on the 706 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:08,240 Yeah. 707 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,240 I do. She has several points. Um 708 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,040 but of significance is especially item 709 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,200 number two, the location of the existing 710 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,160 building doesn't lend itself to retail 711 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,240 or restaurant commercial since it's not 712 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,520 located directly on Highway 9. It lacks 713 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,040 visibility 714 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,920 and vehicular and pedestrian traffic. 715 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,760 Lack of visibility is a death knell for 716 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,400 these types of businesses. And 717 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,040 um 718 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,480 that's my thoughts exactly. We've tried 719 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,720 three different restaurants there. Um 720 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,840 And it's just very difficult to get, 721 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:45,680 especially with without the parking in 722 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,640 downtown Springdale. 723 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,200 Um it's really hard to get people 724 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,600 walking down something that looks like a 725 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,230 residential street. 726 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,560 Trista, just to let you know the 727 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,840 commissioners have this letter there. 728 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:06,150 >> Oh, okay. Perfect. Yeah. 729 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,040 Seems very favorable to your cause. I'm 730 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,680 sorry? I said it seems very favorable to 731 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,120 your cause. 732 00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:14,504 Oh, yes. 733 00:28:14,504 --> 00:28:16,320 >> [laughter] 734 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,070 >> Um 735 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,400 There was one other thing I was going to 736 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,600 bring up. Um 737 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,840 Now, it's escaping me right now, but did 738 00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,480 you have any additional questions for 739 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,160 me? 740 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:31,480 I have one question, but it might be 741 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,920 more for the city. First, I I do want to 742 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,440 thank you for the effort you put into 743 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,520 this. It really shows. Thank you very 744 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:38,040 much. 745 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:39,280 >> Appreciate it. 746 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,600 Um and I fully understand 747 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,080 your reasoning for only having the uh 748 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,960 restrictive covenants on one long-term 749 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,920 rental. Mhm. Which I have no problem 750 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:51,560 with except I just got confused. The 751 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:53,560 rule is 752 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:58,080 for four transient lodging you need one. 753 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,520 That Is that my understanding? 754 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,320 >> That's correct, yeah. 755 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,360 So, what happens to this extra 756 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,800 long-term rental rental? 757 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,080 Cuz it doesn't have a restrictive 758 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,360 covenant, could it become a transient? 759 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,880 No, so it would remain a long-term 760 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,840 rental unit 761 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,760 and it would just be exempt from 762 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,960 the requirement that it couldn't be tied 763 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,560 to employment 764 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,320 on the property. 765 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,120 So, the way the transient lodging 766 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,680 overlay zone was drafted 767 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,840 with this requirement for long-term 768 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,760 housing one of the stipulations was that 769 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,400 the long-term housing couldn't be tied 770 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,280 specifically to 771 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,400 the transient lodging units as far as 772 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,240 like we're building one unit for an 773 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,760 employee for the transient lodging 774 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:50,160 business. 775 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:51,480 So, 776 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,920 both of the units would be long-term 777 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,880 rentals available. 778 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,080 It's just 779 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,160 one of them would would be subject to 780 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,720 this restriction of the code and then 781 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,280 the other one that's over and above 782 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,600 the minimum and therefore not required 783 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,440 would be long-term rental, but it could 784 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,440 be rented to you know, whoever they 785 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,280 wanted. 786 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,960 There's a I think the specific wording 787 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,200 is that 788 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,640 long-term housing units have must 789 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,440 required by the section must be open to 790 00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:23,760 the public. 791 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,520 And so, what you're wanting to do is 792 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,160 have the second one be confined to not 793 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,320 necessarily to the public, but Will not 794 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,920 be not be restricted to that or limited 795 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,880 to that. Could be open to the public, 796 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:36,440 but that would be at your discretion. 797 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,680 >> And you know, every meeting that I've 798 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,440 ever listened to or have been a part of 799 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:42,360 that talks about housing says there's a 800 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,160 shortage, and we just saw this as an 801 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,240 opportunity to provide another 802 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,560 residential unit. Um 803 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,040 like I said, we don't have a property 804 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,400 manager, but if we did in the future, 805 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,360 this would be an ideal location, 806 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,920 obviously. If a housekeeper, for 807 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,480 example, needed housing, we could offer 808 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,320 that. If somebody from Mimi's Cafe 809 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:04,160 needed it, there's a couple other 810 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:08,000 restrictions with the TLO residents. Um 811 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,680 it has to be 812 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,600 no less than 90 days, 813 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,800 which is interesting. I don't I don't 814 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,680 foresee doing anything but 12-month 815 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,360 leases, but if somebody was building a 816 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,640 home in town and needed 817 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,680 a house for 60 days, this gives me an 818 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,400 opportunity to rent to somebody, like if 819 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,360 I have a a space in between where I 820 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,160 could rent seasonally to a ranger for 90 821 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,040 days, I could do that. So, that just 822 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,760 gives us a lot more flexibility, but we 823 00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,360 do intend to use it as a long-term 824 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,000 rental. 825 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,520 And maybe retail, maybe not employees, 826 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,240 but 827 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,520 And it does sound like you're sort of 828 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,160 locked into a both of them being a 829 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,040 long-term rental. Yeah. 830 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:49,720 Which I appreciate, and 831 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,200 the thought you gave in your reasoning 832 00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:53,360 is very 833 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,230 sound, so thank you. 834 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,000 Are there any questions from the public? 835 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,160 No. 836 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,640 Okay. 837 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,760 Um 838 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,840 I think we're ready. Uh 839 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,000 motion to go into public hearing. 840 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,760 I move that we go into open the public 841 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,080 hearing. I'll second the motion. 842 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,280 Uh motion by Paul, second by Rich. All 843 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,480 in favor? Rich, I. Terry, I. Paul, I. 844 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,680 Any comments from the public? 845 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:26,760 No. 846 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,840 I move that we close the public hearing. 847 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,400 Okay. I'll second. Okay. Motion by Paul, 848 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,960 second by Rich. All in favor? Rich, I. 849 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,920 Terry, I. Paul, I. 850 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:39,840 So, we can go into uh now it's 851 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,800 commission deliberation. 852 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,310 Um 853 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:48,880 I guess I'll go ahead. Or do you want 854 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,720 No, go for it. I'll just say um overall 855 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,120 um I think this is a 856 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:53,840 um 857 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,280 a very good submission um 858 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,760 and in general I I think it meets all of 859 00:32:58,760 --> 00:32:59,680 the 860 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,840 goals that we have for the overlay zone, 861 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:03,680 the transit 862 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,160 >> Transit overlay zone. 863 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,040 Um and um I 864 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,560 I'm uh of a mind to go ahead and 865 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,680 recommend approval, but I'd like to hear 866 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,360 any other comments. 867 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,160 I I would agree with all those comments. 868 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:17,960 I I could see the thought. I think it's 869 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,520 beneficial. It looks like the small 870 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,880 town feel. Mhm. The building, you know, 871 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,240 being smaller, shorter, 872 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:26,560 down the hill. 873 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,920 I think it's a it's a good design. It 874 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:30,920 looks reasonable for what we're after, 875 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:32,640 like you said. Mhm. I think it's 876 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,800 beneficial not only for the, you know, 877 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,040 extra lodging, but I I think it also 878 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,280 helps the restaurant, Mimi's, which I 879 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,000 think is great. Yep. 880 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,840 Okay. Yep. I mean, I I agree. I'm I'm I 881 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,760 think it it uh it all looks good. The 882 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:46,640 only 883 00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,750 um 884 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:52,640 the only negative or or or less than 885 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,640 positive thing and but it's not a 886 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,920 disqualifying in my mind is that, you 887 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,960 know, we're going to lose some open lawn 888 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,800 area that's kind of nice to look at in 889 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,480 the center of town. So, you're going to 890 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,830 have a parking lot there instead. 891 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,080 Sure. 892 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,760 Yes. You may Come up. Come up and make a 893 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,679 comment. We will. 894 00:34:11,679 --> 00:34:14,159 Thank you for reminding me. 895 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:15,480 Um 896 00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,760 it's really hard to visualize what that 897 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,000 landscaping is going to look like. Um 898 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,800 this is just a draft and in by no means 899 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,600 our final proposal. We hope to make that 900 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,000 parking lot smaller and maybe one-way 901 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,360 traffic if you dot and the town will 902 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,760 allow it. But what I wanted to point out 903 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:37,720 is we have 145 ft of frontage 904 00:34:37,720 --> 00:34:42,480 in the along SR9 and that space there is 905 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,480 5,000 sq ft of landscaping. 906 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,919 You don't see that when you see that big 907 00:34:48,919 --> 00:34:52,240 black asphalt parking, but that's 5,000 908 00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:54,960 sq ft of grass and landscaping and 909 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,399 shielding. 910 00:34:56,399 --> 00:35:00,440 Um also that parking lot is 45 ft from 911 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:05,000 SR9 and down slope. So 912 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,440 I understand the concern and I'm not 913 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,600 excited to tear up any grass. Um 914 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,400 but anyway, 915 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,640 a lot of thought will go into the design 916 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,720 of that and make it 917 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:20,120 accomplish what we need to with the 918 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,160 parking, but also be conscious about 919 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,000 what the town needs and and not taking 920 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,040 away any more green space than we have 921 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,120 to. 922 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,160 I commend you for that. That's Thank 923 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,910 you. 924 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,320 Okay. 925 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:38,510 Any other discussion? 926 00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,560 No. 927 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:45,910 Can I have a motion? You have a motion. 928 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,680 Do you want me to do it? Can I Can I do 929 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:48,920 it as the chairman? I can do the motion, 930 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,520 can't I? You can. 931 00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:51,120 Okay. 932 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:52,360 >> something on there which I liked and 933 00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:53,400 that's why I'm letting you do it. 934 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,560 >> You got to let me do it. Okay. All 935 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,040 right. 936 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,040 Um the planning case commission 937 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,600 recommends approval of the application 938 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:05,040 by Trista Rei- Reiner to apply for 939 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,520 transient lodging overlay zone on her 940 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:12,070 property S-MMIS-1 941 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,560 975 Zion Park Boulevard as discussed in 942 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,640 the planning commission meeting 943 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,920 dated May 20th, 2026. This is based on 944 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,760 the following findings. 945 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,880 The transient lodging overlay zone 946 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,480 application furthers the land use and 947 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,800 town appearance goals in the Springdale 948 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,760 general plan, specifically sub goal G 949 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,200 that new lodging facilities promote 950 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,880 Spring the transient lodging overlay 951 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,120 zone application meets the requirements 952 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,480 of the Springdale land use ordinance 953 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,680 titled 10 article F regarding transient 954 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,440 lodging overlay zone requirements. 955 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:51,760 We have a couple of conditions or 956 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,280 actually I might have a third one here. 957 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,400 Um first that the uh that the building 958 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,600 footprint of the final design as 959 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,640 submitted for design development review 960 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,400 will be approximately 2600 square feet 961 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:05,880 as reported. 962 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:07,080 Um 963 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,600 and this will 964 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,200 with some small leeway like a 5% leeway 965 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,120 or something for necessary changes. 966 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:15,160 Um 967 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,200 second condition is that the final 968 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,240 design submitted for the design 969 00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:21,800 development review must include varying 970 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,080 external wall panels and exterior design 971 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:26,200 elements 972 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,640 as shown in the drawings. 973 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,000 Um 974 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,200 and the third condition I would put in 975 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,360 is that one of the two 976 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,200 uh long-term 977 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,960 uh rental units 978 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,000 um must uh have the d- the required deed 979 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,080 restriction and the other one does not 980 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,840 require the deed restriction. 981 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,920 Is there a second? I would second that. 982 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,800 Motion by Terry, second by Paul. 983 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,400 You cut in just before you. 984 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,640 Um discussion on any 985 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,880 discussion or thoughts or changes or 986 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,760 No, you got all the points. Thank you. 987 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,520 Well, okay. I think we're ready. 988 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,000 Um so, all approved? 989 00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,520 Rich, I. Terry, I. Paul, I. 990 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:13,960 Your application we have we will 991 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:18,830 recommend approval to the town council. 992 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,280 Thank you. 993 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,160 All right, so the uh second action item, 994 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:23,840 um 995 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:25,720 I guess we are going to pass by that 996 00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:27,480 one. Do we Do we need to like officially 997 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,040 vote to say we're not going to do this 998 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,670 or 999 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,000 No, I I don't think so. 1000 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,000 You don't need an official vote, but you 1001 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,560 may just want to for the record say 1002 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,000 we're we're not going to we had 1003 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,880 potentially considered canceling the 1004 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,440 June 3rd meeting. 1005 00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:47,880 We're not going to consider that, so no 1006 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:48,440 action is necessary. 1007 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,400 >> Okay. 1008 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,560 Um so, for the second action item, 1009 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,760 we were going to consider canceling the 1010 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,800 June 3rd Planning Commission work 1011 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:58,880 meeting. 1012 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,440 We have decided not to cancel that 1013 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,760 meeting and the town staff has indicated 1014 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,800 they can be prepared for that meeting. 1015 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,520 Okay. 1016 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,000 With that, I move that we 1017 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,240 approve the consent agenda. 1018 00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:15,080 Motion by Paul. 1019 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,960 Second. Second by Rich. All in favor? 1020 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,640 Rich, I. Terry, I. All, I. 1021 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,000 All right. We have approved the meeting 1022 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,600 minutes. 1023 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,440 Can we get a motion to adjourn? 1024 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,840 I'll move that we adjourn. I'll second. 1025 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,960 Motion by Paul, second by Rich. All in 1026 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,840 favor? Rich, I. Terry, I. All, I. 1027 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,750 Thank you, everyone. 1028 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,360 Good luck with your project. Yeah. Look 1029 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:44,320 forward to seeing more of it. Yeah.