1 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,080 Board of Mayor meeting for August 18, 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:11,280 2026 is now in session. Would you se 3 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:12,800 stand for the pledge of allegiance and 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,599 remain standing after the pledge? I 5 00:00:15,599 --> 00:00:18,400 pledge algiance to the flag of the 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,279 United States of America and to the 7 00:00:21,279 --> 00:00:25,039 republic for which it stands. One nation 8 00:00:25,039 --> 00:00:28,720 under God, indivisible, with liberty and 9 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:33,110 justice for all. 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,680 » Let us pray. 11 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,600 Eternal God, this is the day that you 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:41,040 have made and we thank you for it. We 13 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,520 thank you for this great city. We thank 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:45,280 you for the occupants of this great 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,760 city. We thank you again, Lord, for all 16 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:50,480 these great children that we see, Lord. 17 00:00:50,480 --> 00:00:52,640 We pray, Lord, that you would guide the 18 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:54,960 leaders, Lord, where we can leave them a 19 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:56,879 legacy, Lord, where they be proud of 20 00:00:56,879 --> 00:00:59,840 Springfield. We thank you, Lord, just 21 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,199 for being a part of this city, a part of 22 00:01:03,199 --> 00:01:05,920 the governing body. I pray for all of my 23 00:01:05,920 --> 00:01:08,799 colleagues. I pray for all the parents. 24 00:01:08,799 --> 00:01:11,439 I pray for all the citizens, Lord. But 25 00:01:11,439 --> 00:01:14,080 we we thank you. We thank you for this 26 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,560 great city. And Lord, I end this prayer 27 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,520 by saying, please bless America in 28 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,439 Jesus's name. Amen. 29 00:01:21,439 --> 00:01:25,190 >> Amen. 30 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,880 » At this time, the chair would like to 31 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,520 recognize parks and recreation director, 32 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,200 Mr. Jerry Martin. Terry Martin, the 33 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:31,520 floor. 34 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:32,960 >> Good afternoon, board. How are y'all 35 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:33,520 doing? 36 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:35,040 >> Yes, well, Mr. Chair. 37 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,799 >> All right. As we bring these young 38 00:01:36,799 --> 00:01:38,560 champions up here, y'all come on up 39 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,439 front here, girls. And before the bullet 40 00:01:41,439 --> 00:01:44,320 goes down to get a photo op with him, I 41 00:01:44,320 --> 00:01:50,870 just want to take a second and say, 42 00:01:50,880 --> 00:02:01,910 "HEY, 43 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:07,030 all that is making a bunch of noise." 44 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:08,720 On behalf of the city of Springfield 45 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,959 Parks and Recreation Department, on 46 00:02:10,959 --> 00:02:13,360 behalf of this team and on behalf of 47 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,840 prior teams before them, we would like 48 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,160 to thank this board of mayor Alderman 49 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:20,239 for your commitment, your financial 50 00:02:20,239 --> 00:02:23,680 commitment that takes a huge burden off 51 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,680 of these teams and these parents and 52 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:28,319 these families whenever they win a state 53 00:02:28,319 --> 00:02:30,080 championship and they move on to the 54 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,239 World Series. And for you helping us out 55 00:02:32,239 --> 00:02:34,319 like that and for that we are very, VERY 56 00:02:34,319 --> 00:02:41,830 THANKFUL. 57 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,680 DOES THAT. THANK YOU very very much. 58 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,519 Y'all come on down here on last set and 59 00:02:45,519 --> 00:02:46,959 come to the podium and say a few words 60 00:02:46,959 --> 00:02:49,280 on her accomplishments while y'all make 61 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,360 your way down here. Can we just stand up 62 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:51,599 here? 63 00:02:51,599 --> 00:02:53,040 >> Can we just stand? 64 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:54,560 >> Yeah, Terry, it might be better if we 65 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,560 stand here. 66 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:01,509 >> So we can stand up. 67 00:03:01,519 --> 00:03:03,360 » Good afternoon. Uh for those who don't 68 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:05,200 know me, I'm Seth Owen, programming 69 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,879 supervisor for the city of Springfield 70 00:03:06,879 --> 00:03:09,200 Parks Department. We are very excited to 71 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,040 get to honor these girls and coaches for 72 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:12,800 their outstanding success in this year's 73 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,200 Diamond Youth Softball tournament. What 74 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,680 began with three regular season teams 75 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:19,280 turned into one all-star team put 76 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:21,040 together by the three head coaches of 77 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,680 our regular season. The first milestone 78 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,760 was competing at the district level held 79 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,280 in White House where these girls went 80 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:30,480 undefeated, outscoring their opponent 71 81 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:33,519 to 17, beating East Robertson, White 82 00:03:33,519 --> 00:03:35,440 House, Portland, and White House for a 83 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,280 second time to extend their postseason 84 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,760 play into the state tournament. At the 85 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:41,440 state tournament in Rockwood, Tennessee, 86 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:43,360 this team continued their hot streak and 87 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,040 earned the title of undefeated state 88 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,599 champions by beating Houston County, 89 00:03:47,599 --> 00:03:49,440 Lewis County, Pleasant View, and 90 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,319 Greenber twice. This meant that they had 91 00:03:52,319 --> 00:03:54,000 earned their spot to represent the state 92 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,920 of Tennessee as team Tennessee in the DY 93 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,519 World Series held in Laurel, 94 00:03:59,519 --> 00:04:02,480 Mississippi. Facing Louisiana for their 95 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,319 first bracket game, Louisiana came out 96 00:04:04,319 --> 00:04:06,879 on top 52. But these girls weren't going 97 00:04:06,879 --> 00:04:09,200 to give up that easy. They battled their 98 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:10,640 way back through the losers bracket, 99 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,879 beating North Carolina 8-6, South 100 00:04:12,879 --> 00:04:16,799 Carolina 13-4, Mississippi 8-7, and 101 00:04:16,799 --> 00:04:19,280 Texas 15 to 14 in extra innings to send 102 00:04:19,280 --> 00:04:20,959 them to the championship game against 103 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:23,040 the only team that beat them in bracket 104 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,160 play, Louisiana. Our girls fought hard 105 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,639 against Louisiana, but finished up as 106 00:04:28,639 --> 00:04:30,880 runner-ups in the Diamond Youth Softball 107 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,120 World Series. We are so very proud of 108 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,280 them and all their accomplishments and 109 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:37,040 would like to recognize them by placing 110 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,360 a sign as you enter Springfield so that 111 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:40,880 everyone can remember how great of a 112 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,800 team this was. So, I would like to 113 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,800 introduce your 2026 AU DY State 114 00:04:46,800 --> 00:05:08,790 Champions and World Series runnerups. 115 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,639 Hey, y'all hold them rings out like 116 00:05:10,639 --> 00:05:22,310 that. EVERYBODY, 117 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,080 » let me see your rings. Let me see your 118 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,400 rings. 119 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:27,919 >> Thank you. Thank you. 120 00:05:27,919 --> 00:05:30,320 >> Congratulations. Congratulations. 121 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:31,520 >> What you going to do with all that big 122 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:36,950 blue? 123 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,600 » Congratulations. 124 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:45,749 A great thing. 125 00:05:45,759 --> 00:06:00,870 >> Congratulations. 126 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:18,550 to y'all. How exciting. 127 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:25,110 Crank it up. 128 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:26,479 » Those rings are fancy. 129 00:06:26,479 --> 00:06:27,600 >> Yeah, 130 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,870 >> are fancy. 131 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:49,510 They were playing last year. 132 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,840 Item 1.4 approval of minutes from the 133 00:06:51,840 --> 00:06:53,120 regular meeting of board of mayor and 134 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,280 alderman held July 22nd 2026. We have a 135 00:06:57,280 --> 00:06:58,960 motion by alderman Bradley a second by 136 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:03,759 Alman Huard. Any questions or comments? 137 00:07:03,759 --> 00:07:06,240 Hearing none. Are we ready to vote? 138 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,960 Let's cast our vote. 139 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:12,080 Anyone care to change their vote? 140 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,000 Would you tally the votes, please? 141 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:19,680 >> Motion passes five to zero. Item 1.5, 142 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,800 our public comment period. 143 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,039 We have three registered speakers here 144 00:07:25,039 --> 00:07:27,440 today and we'll you will have two 145 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,080 minutes. When you approach the podium, 146 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,400 please speak loudly where everyone can 147 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,199 hear you. I have first on my list, Mr. 148 00:07:35,199 --> 00:07:38,240 Billy Hughes. He is speaking about the 149 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,639 Jones Chapel Road water line upgrade. 150 00:07:40,639 --> 00:07:42,800 Mr. Hughes, 151 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:44,400 you have the floor, sir, for two 152 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:45,199 minutes. 153 00:07:45,199 --> 00:07:47,840 >> Good evening. My name is Billy Hughes. 154 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,080 I'm a resident of Jones Chapel Road. I'm 155 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,840 a licensed Tennessee general contractor 156 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,240 with a municipal utility classification 157 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,319 and I've laid hundreds of miles of water 158 00:07:56,319 --> 00:07:59,440 line over my 33-year career. I'm 159 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:00,960 standing before you tonight to formally 160 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,199 oppose the proposed water line extension 161 00:08:03,199 --> 00:08:05,440 along Jones Chapel Road. This project is 162 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,520 flawed in its location, its precedent, 163 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,919 and its execution. Jones Chapel Road 164 00:08:09,919 --> 00:08:11,840 sits four miles outside Springfield's 165 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,680 urban growth boundary. Spending 166 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,000 municipal utility funds to extend a line 167 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:17,360 this far into the county sets a 168 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,520 dangerous precedent for how this board 169 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:22,160 allocates city tax dollars. Springfield 170 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:23,840 taxpayers should not be subsidizing 171 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,400 growth far beyond the city limits with 172 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,080 existing infrastructure demands and 173 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,800 attention. As a contractor, I understand 174 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,240 the infrastructure. Based on this 175 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,080 project scope, I estimate the baseline 176 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,919 cost of this project to be somewhere 177 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:38,240 around $750,000. 178 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,479 That is a highly conservative figure 179 00:08:40,479 --> 00:08:42,479 that completely excludes the massive 180 00:08:42,479 --> 00:08:44,880 auxiliary cost of clearing, road bors, 181 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:46,880 open cut repairs, fence replacements, 182 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,519 and final sight dress. Residents have 183 00:08:49,519 --> 00:08:51,600 raised real and reasonable concerns. 184 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,360 Yet, no one from the utility has reached 185 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:55,760 out to address them. No clear plan has 186 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:57,680 been shared on how tree removal, torn up 187 00:08:57,680 --> 00:08:59,760 fences, or damaged driveways will be 188 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:02,000 repaired or compensated. The 189 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,160 construction traffic construction 190 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:05,920 traffic alone will ruin the existing 191 00:09:05,920 --> 00:09:08,560 rural road infrastructure. an eight or 192 00:09:08,560 --> 00:09:37,350 six inch 193 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,120 It clearly can't maintain the lines that 194 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,200 are already in the ground. We're asking 195 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,760 this board to pause, protect city tax 196 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,800 dollars, enforce proper utility 197 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,600 oversight, and vote no on the Jones 198 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:50,880 Chapel waterline project. 199 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,880 >> Mr. Your time is up, sir. 200 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:53,519 >> Thank you. 201 00:09:53,519 --> 00:09:56,000 for your comments. 202 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,440 Our second speaker today, Mr. Chip Rush. 203 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,880 Jones. Chip Rush speaking again on the 204 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,040 Jones Chapel Road water line up there. 205 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,000 >> All right. Thank you for this 206 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:09,040 opportunity. Uh, I'm opposed to it for 207 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,680 the simple reason is I've been in 208 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:13,920 construction for half of my adult life 209 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,440 and anytime you upgrade a water line to 210 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,640 whether a 6 in or 8 in, that only means 211 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,880 one thing. That means that there's more 212 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,959 houses to be built on Jones Chapperel 213 00:10:24,959 --> 00:10:27,279 Road. Granted, in the Cedar Hill area, 214 00:10:27,279 --> 00:10:28,480 from what I understand, you have to have 215 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:30,560 2 and 1/2 acres. 216 00:10:30,560 --> 00:10:32,160 Well, there's a lot of two and a half 217 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,279 acres out there. Now, if the expansion 218 00:10:35,279 --> 00:10:39,360 of the water line is for uh inadequate 219 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,600 water pressure on Jones Chapper Road or 220 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,839 Stra Road, then those taps should have 221 00:10:43,839 --> 00:10:45,360 never been sold to the individuals in 222 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:50,399 the first place. There's there uh 223 00:10:50,399 --> 00:10:53,600 a rough guess an entity could come in 224 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,600 and build two 200 homes easy, pay for 225 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:59,839 the infrastructure to do that without 226 00:10:59,839 --> 00:11:02,800 any cost to the city. The water line is 227 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,040 the main concern. I've lived at the end 228 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:07,360 of Newberry Road for over 14 years with 229 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,399 my wife and there's a reason we moved 230 00:11:10,399 --> 00:11:12,240 out there because it's out in the 231 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:14,160 country and we'd like to keep it that 232 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,160 way. Thank you very much. 233 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:19,519 >> Thank you, Mr. Rush. Our third and final 234 00:11:19,519 --> 00:11:22,160 speaker is Mr. Robert Green. Robert, are 235 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:22,880 you here? 236 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,800 >> Yes, you are, Mr. Robert. 237 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,120 >> I'm not eloquent as they are, but I'm 238 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,680 Dr. Green. I live on Indust Road. I'm 239 00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:32,160 one of them that has a tap that has not 240 00:11:32,160 --> 00:11:33,760 gotten yet. When it was put in, they had 241 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,040 to. They said, "Could you wait?" And I 242 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,120 said, "Yes." I'm not pushing for this. I 243 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,279 don't I I'd rather go without the tap 244 00:11:39,279 --> 00:11:42,720 than have the 8 in line. I don't think 245 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,880 anybody's saying we don't need a line. 246 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,800 We just don't need an 8 in. If you build 247 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,800 it, they will come. I mean, also do 248 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,440 paving. We cannot handle the traffic. 249 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:52,959 Someone's going to I've been on run off 250 00:11:52,959 --> 00:11:54,480 the road two or three times just with 251 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,800 what we got out there. We're not saying 252 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,440 we don't need taps. Some people are owed 253 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:00,959 them. Like I said, I'm owed one. I don't 254 00:12:00,959 --> 00:12:03,519 I'll I'll give it up to keep the line, 255 00:12:03,519 --> 00:12:05,519 you know, the line from coming in. The 256 00:12:05,519 --> 00:12:07,600 problem we have is we got a petition of 257 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,519 everyone that lives on that road. And I 258 00:12:09,519 --> 00:12:11,839 don't know anyone that's pushing for it. 259 00:12:11,839 --> 00:12:14,800 And you can't cut your phone on or cut 260 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,480 the radio TV on the last two years 261 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,399 without hearing it's a threat to our 262 00:12:18,399 --> 00:12:19,760 democracy. It's a threat to our 263 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,399 democracy. Both sides have played that. 264 00:12:22,399 --> 00:12:23,839 But what they're saying is they don't 265 00:12:23,839 --> 00:12:25,120 they're afraid they don't have a view. 266 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,120 They don't have a voice. 267 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,040 Y'all are our voice. We don't feel like 268 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,639 we have a voice. Like this is being 269 00:12:30,639 --> 00:12:33,600 shoved on us. We can't got no say in it, 270 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,200 but we do have a say because we've 271 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,560 already voted. We voted for y'all. Y'all 272 00:12:38,560 --> 00:12:40,560 are our voice. And so we're asking you. 273 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:42,880 We've got the petition. I don't know 274 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:45,200 anyone that's pushing for the 8 inch 275 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:46,880 line. That's what we don't understand. 276 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,160 We've asked around. We don't know who's 277 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,959 wanting 8 inch line. 4inch line. Just 278 00:12:50,959 --> 00:12:53,440 we're asking for maybe stop this. let's 279 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,200 look at other alternatives instead of 280 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,800 just shoving this down our street where 281 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,760 we live. I can tell you that our the 282 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,160 roads can't handle it. It's it's a it's 283 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,880 a danger now. And so, but I I appreciate 284 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:06,800 y'all's time. Like I said, I'm not that 285 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:08,639 good of a speaker, but I just want to 286 00:13:08,639 --> 00:13:11,440 come and talk. Okay. Thank y'all. 287 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,200 >> Thank you, Mr. Green. At this time, we 288 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,760 will close our public comment period. 289 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,920 We'll now move into our public hearing. 290 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:21,279 Mayor, without objection, and quite a 291 00:13:21,279 --> 00:13:22,480 few in the room are here for this 292 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:25,360 tonight, I would ask that 3.4 be brought 293 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,430 to the beginning of the agenda. 294 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:40,230 I'll second. 295 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:41,839 » Do we have a second? 296 00:13:41,839 --> 00:13:53,350 >> Second. 297 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,440 » Got a motion in a second to move that 298 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,000 item to next on our agenda. That will be 299 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,829 item 3.4. 300 00:14:01,839 --> 00:14:04,160 Got a vote to move it. So, we're ready 301 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,160 to cast our votes to move this item up 302 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:07,519 on our agenda. 303 00:14:07,519 --> 00:14:08,240 >> It'll just be 304 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,240 >> just be a voice vote. All those in 305 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:11,040 favor? 306 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:12,240 >> I. 307 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,399 >> Any opposed? 308 00:14:14,399 --> 00:14:17,440 We will move straight to the item 3.4. 309 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,519 Discuss and properly take action on a 310 00:14:19,519 --> 00:14:22,079 potential waterline upgrade project in 311 00:14:22,079 --> 00:14:25,760 the Jones Tra area. We have a motion by 312 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,199 Alman Hover. I have a question. 313 00:14:29,199 --> 00:14:30,720 >> Can I ask a question? 314 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,320 >> We need a motion and a second to get on 315 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:33,279 the floor. 316 00:14:33,279 --> 00:14:34,480 >> All right. 317 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,560 >> Motion by Alman Hubard, second by Vice 318 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,360 Mayor Harris. Now, we have questions or 319 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,120 comments. 320 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,199 >> What's the city's position while it's 321 00:14:43,199 --> 00:14:44,959 being upgraded 322 00:14:44,959 --> 00:14:47,120 >> or what why what's 323 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:48,480 >> Well, we're here tonight to establish 324 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,320 the city's position because you all will 325 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:52,160 establish the city's position. This 326 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,480 originally came about this the the 327 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,880 conceptual aspects of this project 328 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,120 originally came about last year when 329 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,040 some folks that had purchased taps some 330 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,959 years ago some have purchased taps 331 00:15:02,959 --> 00:15:05,120 decades ago some just a decade and a 332 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,680 half ago or so and wanted to do that. 333 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,920 Our previous water wastewater director 334 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,839 Mr. Beers 335 00:15:11,839 --> 00:15:14,160 uh wanted to try to make good on those 336 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,480 taps that had been purchased and wanted 337 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,120 to upsize the line 338 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,920 in that area. There was some 8- in pipe 339 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,639 that he had that was in inventory that 340 00:15:24,639 --> 00:15:26,560 he wanted to use, which is where this 8 341 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,120 inch line concept comes from. It doesn't 342 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,199 live that way now though. What the the 343 00:15:31,199 --> 00:15:34,320 estimate that we have today, 344 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:36,800 he retired in December. Mr. Price comes 345 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,880 along. I think Mr. Beers had drawn up 346 00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:41,040 some plans which kind of if you want to 347 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,480 make it in plain terms because I'm not 348 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,160 an engineer so I don't understand and we 349 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:45,680 may have to get Mr. price to help us 350 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,680 understand the technical aspects of it. 351 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,959 From a 2D perspective, that looked fine, 352 00:15:52,959 --> 00:15:55,920 right? And it looked like Mr. Beer's 353 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,360 initial estimate was, hey, we might be 354 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:58,880 able to do this if we've got the pipe, 355 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:00,079 we can do it ourselves. We might be able 356 00:16:00,079 --> 00:16:02,079 to do this for $50 to $100,000, right? 357 00:16:02,079 --> 00:16:03,519 And make good on the taps that we're 358 00:16:03,519 --> 00:16:06,480 sold. Well, 2D and 3D are two different 359 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,160 things. So, when it actually comes time 360 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:10,399 to do the engineering aspect and full 361 00:16:10,399 --> 00:16:13,600 design, you have issues like not enough 362 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:14,880 right away. So you have to buy 363 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,959 easements, you have trees in the way, 364 00:16:16,959 --> 00:16:19,040 you have to bore underneath roads. So 365 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,759 that's when you run into issues, and so 366 00:16:21,759 --> 00:16:23,440 that's what balloons the cost of the 367 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,120 project. Also, Mr. Price was not 368 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,759 comfortable with a 8 in line. That 8 in 369 00:16:27,759 --> 00:16:29,759 pipe has been sitting out for some time, 370 00:16:29,759 --> 00:16:31,120 and he wasn't comfortable using that. 371 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:32,639 And frankly, that's too large of a line 372 00:16:32,639 --> 00:16:35,040 to put in that area. So what Mr. Price 373 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,279 has come up with as far as an estimate 374 00:16:37,279 --> 00:16:39,600 is a 6-in line, but you have in your 375 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:41,920 packet his final estimate of that. It is 376 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,800 an unbudgeted project. So, uh, that 377 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,920 total estimate comes out to $52,000 378 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,040 to perform this project. 379 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,079 It is obviously up to you all what to 380 00:16:54,079 --> 00:16:59,040 do. That is a large expense for um for a 381 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,040 handful of taps that were that were 382 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:04,240 sold. Yep. I'm sorry, Mr. Mayor. I think 383 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:06,319 you have another question. Um, if I may, 384 00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:08,720 I was just curious, how many taps are we 385 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,400 looking at that were sold that we're not 386 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,959 able to satisfy? 387 00:17:12,959 --> 00:17:15,439 >> The ones we know about right now are a 388 00:17:15,439 --> 00:17:16,640 handful. So, there were some that were 389 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,240 sold in the 90s. There were some that 390 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,160 were sold in the two, you know, early to 391 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,720 mid 2000s. 392 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,160 >> Miss Hollerman, there are probably some 393 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,000 we don't know about, right? So, I think 394 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,839 what happened, and I don't want to I'm 395 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:30,080 not casting blame on anybody. The way 396 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,240 the process generally works is when you 397 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:34,640 come to purchase a tab, there's a 398 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,480 pressure test done on that line to 399 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,400 determine whether or not you can build a 400 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,480 house and and and do that. That pressure 401 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,120 test is usually good for a year. The 402 00:17:43,120 --> 00:17:45,360 pressure test was done, the taps were 403 00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:47,840 purchased, and then that sort of 404 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,360 happened in a vacuum because someone 405 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:51,760 else came along and that tap wasn't 406 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,360 installed. And so someone else came 407 00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:55,520 along and and they did install. And so 408 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,440 the people that didn't install, the 409 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,760 future purchasers, those taps that were 410 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:01,520 sold weren't taken into account for the 411 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,280 future folks that tapped in the line. So 412 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,200 you have the folks that own the tap say, 413 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,480 "Well, you shouldn't have, you know, you 414 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:09,919 shouldn't have let people tap on the 415 00:18:09,919 --> 00:18:11,520 line because I had that capacity." 416 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,360 That's not exactly what the tap contract 417 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:15,120 says. But that's their position. I 418 00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:16,400 understand that. And so that's why Mr. 419 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:18,880 Beers wanted to try to make good on that 420 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,360 um on that promise that the city had 421 00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:23,360 made initially. I think at this point, 422 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:25,039 am I correct that the the pipeline's 423 00:18:25,039 --> 00:18:26,720 really outside of city city limits? 424 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:27,360 Correct. 425 00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:28,320 >> It is. 426 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:30,160 >> Okay. Well, I would just be really 427 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:31,840 curious to know again I appreciate all 428 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:33,600 the people who are here with you having 429 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,280 voiced their opinion. Again, I I always 430 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:36,480 thank people when they are involved 431 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:37,520 because sometimes I feel like we sit up 432 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:38,720 here in a vacuum not really knowing what 433 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,000 people want. So, thank you all for being 434 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:40,640 here. 435 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,200 >> Um I would be curious to know what how 436 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:44,559 many taps we're looking at what the cost 437 00:18:44,559 --> 00:18:46,400 to refund would be. I mean, this is an 438 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,559 exorbitantly high cost, I think, to make 439 00:18:48,559 --> 00:18:51,440 good on something 50 versus 500,000. And 440 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:52,960 again, we're hearing from constituents 441 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,360 that this is not what they want. Um, so 442 00:18:55,360 --> 00:18:56,960 I would be interested to kind of look at 443 00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:59,200 those numbers. Um, because as it stands, 444 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,640 I'm looking at the cost is just really 445 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,240 high and we have a lot of people 446 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:02,960 opposed. 447 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,880 >> Miss Holl, we solved this problem moving 448 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,640 forward because if you all remember, you 449 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,160 all passed an ordinance within the last 450 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,799 year because of this very issue where we 451 00:19:10,799 --> 00:19:12,480 don't allow this to happen anymore. I 452 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:13,840 think we we were in a period of time 453 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:16,000 where people were buying taps because 454 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,600 eventually they may subdivide the land 455 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:18,880 they wanted their grandkids to be able 456 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,200 to build. And that's great and noble, 457 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,880 uh, but it creates problems down the 458 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,960 road. And so now our policy is if 459 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:26,400 someone buys a tab, it has to be 460 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,480 installed within absent a subdivision 461 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,480 agreement because those houses take a 462 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,240 little bit longer. But if it's it's just 463 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:33,840 a single tab, it has to be installed 464 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,679 within 60 days or there or it gets 465 00:19:35,679 --> 00:19:37,679 refunded. The contract gets canceled. So 466 00:19:37,679 --> 00:19:39,200 this problem is is solved moving 467 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,960 forward. I would say you're probably 468 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:42,799 right. We're looking at a dozen in this 469 00:19:42,799 --> 00:19:44,960 particular pressures area. We're looking 470 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,840 at a dozen or less taps. Okay. 471 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,039 >> Mayor 472 00:19:49,039 --> 00:19:49,440 Tim 473 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,640 >> and but if I understood 474 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,640 >> Mr. Martin correctly nothing is 475 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,320 currently budgeted to do this. 476 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:57,200 >> That's correct. No sir. 477 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,799 >> That's correct. And then we and from 478 00:19:58,799 --> 00:20:01,360 what we saw it's going to be a whole lot 479 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:02,720 more than what was originally thought 480 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,000 that it would be. 481 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:04,640 >> Yes, sir. 482 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,919 >> Okay. Um, I mean clearly by the number 483 00:20:07,919 --> 00:20:09,600 of people that have signed this pet 484 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,480 petition and the number of people that 485 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,080 have come forward and asked that the tap 486 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,200 be placed, that's a big difference in 487 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,120 that. And it's not currently budgeted. 488 00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:24,080 We don't currently have the money to 489 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,960 really spend on doing this. So, if 490 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,320 anybody's willing to hear the motion, 491 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:30,240 I'll make the motion that we not proceed 492 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,600 with this expansion project and that the 493 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,480 city staff get with the city attorney to 494 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:38,799 work out the details of how the refunds 495 00:20:38,799 --> 00:20:40,720 might be given on the taps if that's 496 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,320 what's decided to do. 497 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:45,039 >> I'd second that. Plus, I need to make a 498 00:20:45,039 --> 00:20:49,039 comment. In the 90s, there was a hasty 499 00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:51,440 decision that was made 500 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,559 and so about the taps and stuff. It 501 00:20:54,559 --> 00:20:57,919 wasn't really it wasn't really carried 502 00:20:57,919 --> 00:21:02,159 out properly. I was lamore then. Okay. 503 00:21:02,159 --> 00:21:04,720 So, I'm glad to 504 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:08,880 I'm I'm glad to say no and support the 505 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,440 citizens for getting 506 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:16,159 really getting misled per se by the 507 00:21:16,159 --> 00:21:19,750 1990s. 508 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,280 I have to just come clean with it. Okay. 509 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:29,669 >> Mr. Troder 510 00:21:29,679 --> 00:21:31,840 get a motion second. We got a motion in 511 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:32,400 a second. 512 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,200 >> Second by me. 513 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:37,270 >> Yeah. 514 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,039 » We vote on this like it is. 515 00:21:39,039 --> 00:21:41,600 >> Yeah. We need a motion in a second. We 516 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,600 got a motion for Mr. Harris to not do 517 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,240 the project. 518 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:47,679 We got a second. 519 00:21:47,679 --> 00:21:50,240 >> We need Tim made the motion. We need a 520 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,240 second. Mr. 521 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,360 I'll second if you need to. 522 00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:56,159 >> There you go. 523 00:21:56,159 --> 00:21:57,679 Now we're ready. 524 00:21:57,679 --> 00:21:59,440 >> And the motion was Tim 525 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,520 >> that we not proceed with this expansion 526 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,159 and that the staff get with the city 527 00:22:04,159 --> 00:22:06,400 attorney to see possibly how 528 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,840 >> what needs to be done on the present 529 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,919 taps out there to get their money back 530 00:22:09,919 --> 00:22:10,640 to them. 531 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,320 >> So we would we would get with the city 532 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,159 attorney and resolve whatever 533 00:22:14,159 --> 00:22:15,679 >> needed to be. But as far as at this 534 00:22:15,679 --> 00:22:17,679 time, I I just don't think as a city we 535 00:22:17,679 --> 00:22:19,280 can proceed with this 536 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,360 >> expense-wise and to honor what the 537 00:22:21,360 --> 00:22:22,799 majority of the people in that area are 538 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:25,200 asking for. 539 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,480 >> Is everyone clear on that? 540 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:27,600 >> We're not asking for. 541 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,039 >> So, if we vote yes, we're voting 542 00:22:29,039 --> 00:22:30,640 against. We're voting no, right? Is that 543 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,000 where we're at right now? I just want to 544 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:32,960 make sure I hit the right. 545 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,480 >> You vote yes on the motion. You're 546 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,159 voting to not do the project. Thank you. 547 00:22:36,159 --> 00:22:37,919 Want to clarify that project. I'm glad 548 00:22:37,919 --> 00:22:39,919 you did. 549 00:22:39,919 --> 00:22:41,520 >> Are we ready to vote? 550 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:42,880 >> Yes. 551 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:45,360 So my voting yes 552 00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:47,679 voted to not move forward. Correct. 553 00:22:47,679 --> 00:22:49,440 Everybody clear on that. 554 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:56,070 >> Just want to make let's cast our votes. 555 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,200 » Anyone care to change their vote? 556 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,520 >> Would you tally the votes, please? 557 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,440 >> Motion passes four to two. 558 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:10,390 >> Yeah, we just 559 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,320 need to do it. Wait a minute. Wait a 560 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:16,080 minute. We vote no and we kill it. 561 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,799 >> The motion that Mr. Harris made was to 562 00:23:18,799 --> 00:23:20,799 not do the project. 563 00:23:20,799 --> 00:23:23,840 >> So So a yes vote would be in support of 564 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,880 his motion to not do the project. 565 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,440 >> Okay. Anyway, it's passed. 566 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,120 >> Well, you got have to ask the city 567 00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:32,880 attorney change it. 568 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,320 >> We can change it. 569 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:40,710 >> Motion to reconsider. 570 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,200 Make a motion to reconsider. 571 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:44,080 >> Second. 572 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,440 >> All right. 573 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:46,960 >> So, 574 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:47,679 vote. 575 00:23:47,679 --> 00:23:50,559 >> Revote. Revote. 576 00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:52,240 >> Let's cast our votes. 577 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,080 >> The motion to reconsider. 578 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,679 >> She motion second that. 579 00:23:55,679 --> 00:23:56,240 >> I did. 580 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:58,400 >> Yeah, she did. So, Mr. Harris made a 581 00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,840 motion to reconsider. Miss Bradley made 582 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,320 a second. So, just clear the votes. 583 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,120 >> Clear the vote. 584 00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:05,760 >> I'll just change these. Yes, 585 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,630 >> um yeah. 586 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,039 Good. 587 00:24:13,039 --> 00:24:21,430 >> We're ready. 588 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,440 » I just didn't They were welcome to stay. 589 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:24,320 I just didn't want to have to sit 590 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,919 through the whole weekend. 591 00:24:25,919 --> 00:24:27,120 >> If y'all want to 592 00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:28,960 >> are ready to leave, you can ple you can 593 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,480 go ahead and leave. If you kind of do it 594 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,320 quietly. 595 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,750 >> Thank you for coming, 596 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,110 » Mr. Mayor. 597 00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:43,039 I was Motion since being my wardro 598 00:24:43,039 --> 00:24:47,350 3.9 this time 599 00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:48,720 motion to move 600 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,240 >> motion need a second 601 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,279 >> we have a motion and a second in favor 602 00:24:55,279 --> 00:24:56,559 moving 603 00:24:56,559 --> 00:24:59,279 >> to item 3.9 604 00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:04,149 all signify by saying I 605 00:25:04,159 --> 00:25:09,430 » any opposed hearing none 606 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,520 The chair will recognize Mr. Robert 607 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,720 Gardner. Hold on. We got We got to get 608 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:27,590 to know. 609 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,000 » Ma'am. 610 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:41,669 Ma'am. 611 00:25:41,679 --> 00:25:44,320 So, we're bringing 3.9. 3.9. 612 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:49,750 >> We're on item 3.9. 613 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,240 » Mr. Robert, you have the floor, sir. 614 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,080 >> Thank you, mayor. Appreciate it. Uh, 615 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,200 Ottoman, and I thank you for this 616 00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,279 opportunity just to provide an update on 617 00:25:59,279 --> 00:26:01,279 the Bransford Community Center. I should 618 00:26:01,279 --> 00:26:04,080 say the long awaited Bratz for the 619 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,200 Community Center. I think it gives Ryan 620 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,520 Martin cold chills when I bring that 621 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,760 name up sometimes, but I know that it 622 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,720 has been a long ongoing project. But I 623 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,159 just wanted to say first of all, uh we 624 00:26:18,159 --> 00:26:21,039 really really do appreciate not only the 625 00:26:21,039 --> 00:26:24,240 board's generosity in allocating these 626 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,640 funds to this project, but also the 627 00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,279 board's patience. I know it's been a 628 00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:32,400 kind of a long, arduous, and frustrating 629 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,200 5 years since these funds were allocated 630 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,559 and uh we've had some ups and downs. 631 00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:42,000 Um just don't want to get into all the 632 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,520 hurdles that we've faced, but we have 633 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:47,200 faced several. Uh but what we have come 634 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,919 to realize is that we need to build 635 00:26:49,919 --> 00:26:51,760 something and we need to build something 636 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,279 soon. And you know, so we're at the 637 00:26:55,279 --> 00:26:58,720 point that we are decided just to take 638 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,480 the city's allocation and build 639 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,559 something as a phase one that we can 640 00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:05,279 actually get in and begin operating some 641 00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:08,159 programs. We have a very active board. 642 00:27:08,159 --> 00:27:10,240 We have very active programs and we have 643 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,880 active partners that uh are looking 644 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,120 forward to a space to come and call 645 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:18,080 home. And most notably is our Bransford 646 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,320 Cubs, formerly our Bransford Pride after 647 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,880 school program. and our board is here 648 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,960 and do want them to stand and be and be 649 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,120 recognized and they are here in full 650 00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:29,679 support of this project as always and 651 00:27:29,679 --> 00:27:31,520 they've had many sleepless nights. Thank 652 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,440 you board. They've had many sleepless 653 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,080 nights as I've had to try to bring this 654 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,840 project to fruition. But um long story 655 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,720 short, we have a million-doll allocation 656 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,440 from the city and we have a partner that 657 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,480 we have uh trusted a trusted partner 658 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,720 with Adam Arrington and Morton 659 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,039 buildings. Morton is a national 660 00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:55,679 contractor. They've done many many 661 00:27:55,679 --> 00:27:58,159 hundreds of buildings and we feel fully 662 00:27:58,159 --> 00:27:59,840 confident they can make this happen for 663 00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,600 us within our budget. So, what we are 664 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,399 requesting tonight, um, just kind of in 665 00:28:06,399 --> 00:28:09,440 a nutshell, is to be able, even though 666 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,520 the the wording of the original motion 667 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,279 that was passed in May of 2021 was to, 668 00:28:15,279 --> 00:28:17,840 uh, provide funding for construction 669 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,520 costs, but as you know, um, engineering 670 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,120 and design has to come before 671 00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:25,679 construction. So to get this project a 672 00:28:25,679 --> 00:28:27,600 kickstart and just to get us off the 673 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,840 ground, we're just asking not asking for 674 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,720 any additional funding, but asking that 675 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,200 the the engineering cost that's 676 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,159 necessary for on the front end would be 677 00:28:38,159 --> 00:28:39,760 able to be allocated out of that 1 678 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,840 million that we'll be able to take that. 679 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,720 Again, additional funding is in this 680 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,480 request, but just to use those funds 681 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,320 that we have just to get the engineering 682 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,720 done. Greater Faith Community Action has 683 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:54,000 paid $8,000 for the preliminary plan, 684 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,320 which Morton describes as phase one. I 685 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,559 think you have a copy of that. Uh we 686 00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:01,120 need funding for the uh to take the 687 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,200 funding for the construction plans to 688 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,120 get those out for bid so we can get this 689 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,880 project done. So um that being said, I 690 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,480 would like uh if you don't have any 691 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:11,600 questions, I'd like to turn it over to 692 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,760 Adam Arrington and he can make a 693 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,799 presentation at this time. 694 00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:23,190 >> Thank you, Robert. 695 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,039 Hello, I'm Adam Harrington with Morton 696 00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:28,000 Buildings. Uh we are 120 year old 697 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,559 company. Uh the local branch is based 698 00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:32,320 out of Murphy'sboro. We've been here 40 699 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,320 years. We've built many buildings in the 700 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,320 Springfield area. Um I'm I was brought 701 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,159 up to speed on what has happened in the 702 00:29:40,159 --> 00:29:43,120 past. We do things differently. We're 703 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,640 very very careful. Um, I know a lot of 704 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:48,720 people are watching this, but all of our 705 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,880 programs, all of our buildings, the way 706 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,520 we like to do it is phase one, let's 707 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,159 which is where we are right now. Uh, how 708 00:29:56,159 --> 00:29:57,919 much money are you thinking you have 709 00:29:57,919 --> 00:30:00,240 available? And then we say, okay, we 710 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,919 think we can build this building for 711 00:30:01,919 --> 00:30:04,640 that. And then we start going through um 712 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,240 to verify that. It's kind of a 713 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,080 feasibility study. It's very 714 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:12,720 inexpensive. We don't make any money on these. We just want to build. So, 715 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,919 they uh put in $88,000. 716 00:30:15,919 --> 00:30:19,039 We had a soils engineer come up. This is 717 00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:21,360 the building we're hoping that that we 718 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,559 can get. Uh you know, budget limitations 719 00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:26,559 may change things, but this is this is 720 00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:28,640 kind of where we're hoping for. Uh if 721 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,880 you'll go down a couple um so what what 722 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,080 we did, I think go back up one. Um so, 723 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,520 what we did was we had our soils 724 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,120 engineer come out because we need to be 725 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,960 careful. We know what it we do. Once it 726 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,960 gets above the ground, we know what 727 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,799 things are going to cost mostly. Below 728 00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:47,760 the ground, we don't know. So, we we dug 729 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,880 up some uh you know, back originally, 730 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,000 they buried the parts of the building on 731 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,880 site. I know it saved a lot of money. 732 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,760 So, what we did is we we took some test 733 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,840 holes around. We found the north side 734 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,399 and the south side have about 5 ft of 735 00:31:04,399 --> 00:31:07,120 this material which is brick and block 736 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,120 left over from the original building. 737 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,200 But in the middle we found an area that 738 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,919 we can put the building. It has about 2 739 00:31:13,919 --> 00:31:15,760 ft of this debris that we'll need to 740 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:20,320 remove. Um we can build that building or 741 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,880 something nearby at this point with as 742 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,200 much exploratory uh information that we 743 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,880 have right now in that area. will rem 744 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:32,080 dig up the two feet in the middle of of 745 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,760 the site and we think we can bury it on 746 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:41,360 an uh we have planned ahead to for their growth. So we've got a 747 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,240 preliminary civil um design saying we 748 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,640 don't want to interfere with the future. 749 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,120 So we think we have an appropriately 750 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,559 sized detention pond. We can overdig the 751 00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:57,200 detention pond, bury about 750 to a,000 752 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,080 cubic yards of debris at the bottom, 753 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,320 then fill that back out. That also gives 754 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,960 us the added benefit of harvesting the 755 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,880 good soil. It's got great soil out there 756 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,559 if you can just get the the debris out 757 00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:10,399 of the way. So, we'll have that to build 758 00:32:10,399 --> 00:32:12,399 back. So, we're hoping to cut down 2 ft, 759 00:32:12,399 --> 00:32:16,799 build back one foot. Um, so 760 00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:21,360 we think we're in the in the ballpark of of having a nice building, a useful 761 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,279 building. It's a bit of a stretch right 762 00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:27,440 now. Um, and but for what we know right 763 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,080 now, I think we're in range. The next 764 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,799 phase is where we again are very 765 00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:35,600 careful. We we get a full report from 766 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,919 the civil engineer. Our architects and 767 00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:42,159 engineers have certified stamp plans. Um 768 00:32:42,159 --> 00:32:43,919 then we get our mechanical engine 769 00:32:43,919 --> 00:32:46,399 electrical and plumbing uh engineers to 770 00:32:46,399 --> 00:32:48,799 give us a design and then we have we 771 00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:51,840 have a full scope of work and then we go 772 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,559 out and get our bids and and then at the 773 00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:56,799 end we will know what the what it's 774 00:32:56,799 --> 00:32:58,880 going to cost. There might be a surprise 775 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,960 or two but we limit our surprises and 776 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,440 control our surprises but we'll know 777 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,200 before we get down the road like what 778 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,600 happened last time. We'll know where we 779 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,360 are and then we can adjust the building 780 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,000 back down. So, we we build 2500 781 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,880 buildings a year. Um, you know, we're confident or I wouldn't be 782 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,240 standing here that we can make this 783 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:22,789 happen. 784 00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:24,799 » That's good. Thank you, sir. 785 00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:26,799 >> Any questions? Mr. Chair, 786 00:33:26,799 --> 00:33:30,240 >> I'll make a motion that uh Mr. Gordon 787 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,760 just stated they're not ask for any 788 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,440 additional funds just to use a portion 789 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,480 of we already allocated for it to 790 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,640 proceed. I make a motion that we let 791 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:42,070 them do it. 792 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,750 I'll second it. 793 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,039 You have something you want. 794 00:33:47,039 --> 00:33:48,799 >> Just for purposes of clarification for 795 00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:50,159 those that weren't here at the time, the 796 00:33:50,159 --> 00:33:52,480 reason that we're we're doing this when 797 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,039 they came last time in 2021, in May of 798 00:33:55,039 --> 00:33:57,919 2021, as Mr. Gardner says it was, the 799 00:33:57,919 --> 00:33:59,840 motion that was made in the vote was for 800 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,440 construction expenses because they 801 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,600 already had a design. And so that's the 802 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:05,679 reason this was not excluded in in that 803 00:34:05,679 --> 00:34:07,919 particular aspect. It just at that time 804 00:34:07,919 --> 00:34:09,520 there already was a design for a 805 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,359 building that they were pursuing. When 806 00:34:11,359 --> 00:34:13,520 Miss Martine and I discussed that 807 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,000 looking at the May 21 808 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,000 vote that you all had, we thought it 809 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,280 would be best if they came and got 810 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,040 clarification. And so, mayor, you have a 811 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,879 motion to second. I think that we can 812 00:34:22,879 --> 00:34:23,679 proceed. 813 00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:27,440 >> Any other questions or comments? 814 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,079 >> Let's get started. 815 00:34:30,079 --> 00:34:32,399 >> If not, we are ready to vote. Let's cast 816 00:34:32,399 --> 00:34:34,639 our votes. 817 00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:36,960 Anyone 818 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,919 care to change their vote? 819 00:34:39,919 --> 00:34:42,000 Would you tally the votes, please? 820 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,240 >> Motion passes six to zero. 821 00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:47,839 >> Very good. Very good. 822 00:34:47,839 --> 00:34:49,200 >> All right. I think we're ready to go 823 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:58,230 back 824 00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:09,109 » a minute. Yeah. 825 00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:10,880 I don't think we did any of these. 826 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:15,430 >> Oh, you're right. 827 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:16,480 » All right. 828 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:18,079 >> Now, we'll move to our public hearing 829 00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:20,160 portion of our agenda. 830 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,800 First item is ordinance 26-28, an 831 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:24,880 ordinance reszoning a portion of one 832 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,320 parcel located at Highway 41 North from 833 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,560 restrictive industrial district to 834 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,960 commercial services district. Anyone 835 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,960 here to speak to that ordinance? 836 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,640 Seeing none. Item number two, ordinance 837 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,640 26-29, 838 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:46,400 an ordinance amending section A801 of 839 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,920 the Springfield zoning ordinance 840 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,359 pertaining to temporary use permits. 841 00:35:51,359 --> 00:35:54,640 Anyone here to speak to that? 842 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,599 Seeing none, item three, ordinance 843 00:35:57,599 --> 00:36:00,240 26-30, an ordinance amending the fiscal 844 00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:02,480 year of 2027 845 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:03,920 annual budget for the city of 846 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,560 Springfield by amending certain general 847 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,920 fund and utility fund operating budgets. 848 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,960 Anyone here to speak to that ordinance? 849 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,680 Seeing none, item four, ordinance 26-31 850 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,320 and ordinance amending title 5, chapter 851 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,800 6 of the Springfield Municipal Code 852 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,760 relative to developer credits for system 853 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,000 development charges. Anyone here to 854 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,320 speak to that? 855 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,640 Seeing none, at this time we will close 856 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:35,359 our public hearing portion and move into 857 00:36:35,359 --> 00:36:38,720 our legislative item 2.1 discuss and 858 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:42,720 possibly take action on ordinance 26-28 859 00:36:42,720 --> 00:36:45,119 on second and final reading an ordinance 860 00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:47,680 reszoning a portion of one parcel 861 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,400 located on Highway 41 North from 862 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,800 restrictive industrial district RI to 863 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,160 commercial services district CS. We have 864 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,720 a motion by Vice Mayor Harris, a second 865 00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:02,320 by Alman Hubard. Any questions or any 866 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,670 comments? 867 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,480 See none. Are we ready to vote? Let's 868 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,280 cast our votes. 869 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,280 Anyone care to change their vote? 870 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,599 Would you tally the votes, please? 871 00:37:17,599 --> 00:37:20,640 >> Motion passes six to zero. 872 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,680 >> Item 2.2, two, discuss and possibly take 873 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,280 action on ordinance 26-29 874 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,680 on second and final reading an ordinance 875 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,119 amending section A- 801 of the 876 00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:35,200 Springfield zoning ordinance pertaining 877 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,960 to temporary use permits. We have a 878 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,880 motion by Alderman Hubard, a second by 879 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,760 Alderman Troder. Any questions or 880 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,030 comments? 881 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:52,470 Hearing none, are we ready to vote? 882 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,000 Let's cast their votes. 883 00:37:56,000 --> 00:38:01,030 Anyone care to change their vote? 884 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,119 » Would you tally the votes, please? 885 00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:05,520 >> Motion passes six to zero. 886 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,400 Item 2.3 887 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,640 discuss and promptly take action on 888 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,320 26-30 on second and final reading. An 889 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,520 ordinance amending the fiscal year 2027 890 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,040 annual budget for the city of 891 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,599 Springfield by amending certain general 892 00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:26,160 fund and utility fund operating budgets. 893 00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,280 First, we need to pass the amendment. 894 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,760 Correct. You've got motion. Motion by 895 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,359 Alderman Hover, second by Alderman 896 00:38:33,359 --> 00:38:37,040 Hollowman. First we that's for the 897 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,560 amendment I believe. Correct. 898 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,000 >> That's to put the the item on the floor 899 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:40,400 for discuss. 900 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,800 >> Okay. That gets us on the floor then. So 901 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,400 we need to go ahead and vote. 902 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,599 >> U no sir. It would need to be amended to 903 00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:49,760 include the amended exhibit A. So you 904 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,280 would be looking next for a motion and a 905 00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:52,240 second to 906 00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:53,680 >> We have a motion by Alman Hover and 907 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:57,760 Alderman second by Alman Bradley for the 908 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,680 >> to amend. Yes. 909 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:00,720 >> Okay. 910 00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:04,640 >> Are we ready to vote on the amendment? 911 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,920 Let's cast our votes. 912 00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:12,560 Anyone care to change their voters? 913 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,440 Let's count the votes. 914 00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,440 >> Motion passes six to zero. 915 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,240 >> Okay. Now we come back. I need a motion 916 00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:22,000 by Alman Hover. Second by Alman 917 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,359 Hollowman to pass the ordinance as 918 00:39:25,359 --> 00:39:28,480 amended. Correct. Okay. We have a motion 919 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,560 by Alman Hollowman. Motion by Alman 920 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,880 Hover. Al Second by Alman Hollowman. Any 921 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,000 questions or comments on the amended 922 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,000 ordinance? 923 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,599 >> Hearing none, let's cast our vote. 924 00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:41,359 >> This is your as amended. Original as 925 00:39:41,359 --> 00:39:41,839 amended. 926 00:39:41,839 --> 00:39:45,040 >> As amended. Correct. 927 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,560 >> We ready to cast our votes? 928 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:47,520 >> Yep. 929 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,829 >> Let's vote. 930 00:39:51,839 --> 00:39:56,079 » Anyone care to change their votes? 931 00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:57,920 >> Would you tally the votes, please? 932 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,520 >> Motion passes six to zero. 933 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,560 Moving to item 2.4. Discuss and possibly 934 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,760 take action on ordinance 26-31 935 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:10,079 on second and final reading and 936 00:40:10,079 --> 00:40:12,880 ordinance amending title 5, chapter 6 of 937 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,440 the Springfield Municipal Code relative 938 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,000 to developer credits for system 939 00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,800 development charges. We have a motion by 940 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,040 Alman Hollowman, 941 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:27,280 a second by Alderman Bradley. Thank you. 942 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:36,710 Any questions or comments? 943 00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:48,630 He won. 944 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,359 » Okay, no questions, no comments. Let's 945 00:40:51,359 --> 00:40:55,910 cast our votes. 946 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,119 Anyone care to change their votes? 947 00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:00,880 Would you tally the votes, please? 948 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,560 >> Motion passes six to zero. 949 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,880 >> Item 2.5, 950 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:08,880 discuss and possibly take action on 951 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,119 ordinance 26-32 952 00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:14,480 on first reading, an ordinance amending 953 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,680 title 12, chapter 1 of the Springfield 954 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,800 Municipal Code. We have motion by Alman 955 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,040 Hollowman and second by Alderman Huard. 956 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,280 I believe city manager Ryan Martin has 957 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,760 some information to share with us. 958 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,920 >> Thank you, mayor. So this is an update. 959 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,240 If you remember back within the last 960 00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:35,200 year or two, we adopted the 2021 961 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,040 version of a variety of codes, including 962 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,720 the International Building Code. The 963 00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:40,640 International Building Code and the ICC, 964 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,079 the International Code Council that puts 965 00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:44,880 out these codes. It's all-encompassing. 966 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,359 So usually there are some things that we 967 00:41:47,359 --> 00:41:49,440 don't adopt and various jurisdictions do 968 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,440 not adopt uh in those codes. And one of 969 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,359 those was missed and this is has to do 970 00:41:55,359 --> 00:41:57,599 with storm shelters. this will put us in 971 00:41:57,599 --> 00:41:59,839 line with the state of Tennessee uh that 972 00:41:59,839 --> 00:42:02,480 they omitted from their 2021 version and 973 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,400 it does affect the facility that we are 974 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,240 in the process of looking at. So that's 975 00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:07,599 why that's what brought this to our 976 00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:09,839 attention for us to uh bring it to you 977 00:42:09,839 --> 00:42:12,079 tonight. 978 00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:14,880 >> Any questions or comments? 979 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:21,829 If not, let's cast our votes. 980 00:42:21,839 --> 00:42:27,510 Anyone 981 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:29,359 care to change their vote? 982 00:42:29,359 --> 00:42:31,280 >> How do you want to vote, Mr.? 983 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:37,349 >> Yes. 984 00:42:37,359 --> 00:42:38,960 » Would you change his votes, please? 985 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,520 >> Motion passes six to zero. 986 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,599 Moving into our administrative portion 987 00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:46,880 of our agenda, item 3.1, 988 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,520 discuss and possession on the adjustment 989 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,240 of retail electric rates due to the 990 00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:54,240 wholesale fuel cost adjustment by the 991 00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:56,640 Tennessee Valley Authority. Have a 992 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,880 motion by Alman Hollowman, a second by 993 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,200 Alman Hubard. 994 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,079 Mr. Terry Risha, what do you have for 995 00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:07,990 us, sir? 996 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:13,430 Any 997 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,960 questions or comments? 998 00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:22,150 Let's cast our votes. 999 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:27,190 Anyone care to change their vote? 1000 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:28,960 » Would you tally the votes, please? 1001 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,599 >> Motion passes six to zero. 1002 00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:34,480 >> Item 3.2, discussing possibility action 1003 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,560 on the adjustment of the monthly gas 1004 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:39,520 rates. Motion by Alderman Hollowman, 1005 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,240 second by Alman Hubbert. Gas director, 1006 00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:45,839 Mr. Vincy Davis, what you have for us 1007 00:43:45,839 --> 00:43:50,950 increase. 1008 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,920 » Any questions or comments? 1009 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:58,000 If not, let's cast our vote. 1010 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,870 Anyone care to change their vote? 1011 00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:04,800 Would you would you count the votes, 1012 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:05,200 please? 1013 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,720 >> Motion passes six to zero. Item 3.3 1014 00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:13,119 discuss and possibly take action on STBG 1015 00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:15,520 citywide paving paving contract with 1016 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,040 sections paving of Nashville, Tennessee. 1017 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,280 We have a motion by Albert, second by 1018 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,520 Vice Mayor Harris. 1019 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,280 City manager Ryan Martin, I believe you 1020 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:26,480 have something to add. 1021 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,079 >> Thank you, Mayor. This is a long- aaited 1022 00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:31,200 citywide paving uh uh contract project 1023 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,880 that we've been waiting on for quite 1024 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,960 some time. took a while to get through 1025 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,839 the approval process because the STBG is 1026 00:44:37,839 --> 00:44:39,920 surface transportation block grant. So, 1027 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,880 it is primarily funded by grants. You 1028 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,400 can see that breakdown. There's a small 1029 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,560 local match there in your packet of what 1030 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,480 that funding looks like. We're excited 1031 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,160 for this project to get underway. We 1032 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,280 hope that you all will approve this 1033 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:52,800 contract tonight. Just to give you a 1034 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,119 heads up for not only your awareness, 1035 00:44:55,119 --> 00:44:56,880 but also the public's awareness. Some of 1036 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,240 the streets that are involved in this 1037 00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:00,160 resurfacing and paving project include 1038 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,359 22nd Avenue. 22nd Avenue is one of the 1039 00:45:03,359 --> 00:45:04,960 uh it's it's pretty rough from South 1040 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,359 Main to uh to Tom Austin, John El 1041 00:45:07,359 --> 00:45:09,200 Patterson, there's a section of 10th 1042 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,920 Avenue, Roy Pit Road, a portion of 1043 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,079 Industrial 17th, and a portion of Bill 1044 00:45:14,079 --> 00:45:15,520 Jones. Those are just some of the 1045 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,599 streets that are included that need uh 1046 00:45:17,599 --> 00:45:19,839 need some some attention and that are 1047 00:45:19,839 --> 00:45:22,160 those are part of this project. 1048 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,400 >> Thank you, Ryan. Any questions or 1049 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,160 comments? 1050 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,880 >> Richard Street especially 1051 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:32,319 John El Patterson. McDonald Palace. I 1052 00:45:32,319 --> 00:45:33,680 keep thinking 1053 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:34,400 >> Yeah. 1054 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,599 >> Let's cast our votes. 1055 00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:42,870 Anyone care to change their vote? 1056 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:44,720 » Would you tally the votes, please? 1057 00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:47,200 >> Motion passes six to zero. 1058 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,920 >> Moving to item 3.5, discuss and proply 1059 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,079 take action on a donation to the fire 1060 00:45:52,079 --> 00:45:55,680 department from grills for guardians. We 1061 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,000 have a motion by Alman Hubard, second by 1062 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:02,470 Alderman Bradley. 1063 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:07,109 Any questions or comments? 1064 00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:11,109 Let's cast our votes. 1065 00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:15,829 » Anyone care to change their vote? 1066 00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:17,599 Would you tally the votes, please? 1067 00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:19,680 >> Motion passes six to zero. 1068 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,200 >> Item 3.6, Six, discuss and possibly take 1069 00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,000 action on title 5, chapter 6 of 1070 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,560 Springfield Municipal Code relative to 1071 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,440 commercial system development charges. 1072 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,280 We have a motion by Alderman Hubard, a 1073 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,720 second by Alderman Hollowman. 1074 00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:40,480 Any questions or comments? 1075 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:42,960 >> Mayor, if I may. Um, I was one of the 1076 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,960 ones who asked for this, so thank you so 1077 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,960 much to the city for kind of pulling all 1078 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,680 this information together. Um, I know 1079 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,640 just kind of looking at the impact fees 1080 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,560 as we are presently, we are a little on 1081 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,240 the higher end compared to I would say 1082 00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:01,119 comparable cities um for commercial 1083 00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:05,200 nonutility impact fees. So I I would 1084 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,160 love to see the city move to maybe um 1085 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,520 the 25% of allowable. Um, I know that 1086 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,800 will not completely offset some of that 1087 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:19,200 burden that's on the um, uh, developers, 1088 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,960 but I'm hoping that that will be enough 1089 00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,560 to help maximize growth opportunities 1090 00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,160 that could benefit the citizens of 1091 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:30,390 Springfield. 1092 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,440 » Any other questions or comments? 1093 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,440 >> What is the alderman considering being 1094 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,040 comparable 1095 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,560 >> cities? What are you considering 1096 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,880 comparable cities to us? Well, I'm 1097 00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,000 looking here. I mean, I don't even know 1098 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,000 if you comparable might be an iffy thing 1099 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,480 to say, but you know, we have uh Dixon 1100 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:49,280 with no impact fees. Um Goodletville has 1101 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:52,160 no impact fees. Hendersonville, um which 1102 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,640 again, not quite comparable, but um they 1103 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,720 only adopted residential impact fees. 1104 00:47:56,720 --> 00:47:58,160 There was no adoption of commercial 1105 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,680 impact fees there. Um you know, the 1106 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,440 other ones kind of around that do have 1107 00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:04,960 the impact fees, obviously Franklin and 1108 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:06,560 Brentwood, a bit of a different scenario 1109 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:09,680 there. Um, White House has pretty high 1110 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,599 impact fees, but they're right there on 1111 00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:13,839 the uh interstate. I don't know. I 1112 00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:15,839 wouldn't necessarily compare them to to 1113 00:48:15,839 --> 00:48:19,280 our city. So, um, 1114 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:20,800 Portland's lower, but they do have 1115 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,760 impact fees for commercial. 1116 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,200 And same with Leven. Leven is 1117 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:26,559 significantly lower, but they do have 1118 00:48:26,559 --> 00:48:37,589 some. 1119 00:48:37,599 --> 00:48:40,960 So, you're requesting we lower these? 1120 00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,880 >> Yes. I guess I I guess, you know, if no 1121 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:44,319 one else has any comments, I would make 1122 00:48:44,319 --> 00:48:47,200 a motion to lower the um impact fees for 1123 00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,920 commercial to 25%. I think in speaking 1124 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,520 with the city attorney, you know, we're 1125 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,040 we have to do these things in a certain 1126 00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,040 way and we can't cherrypick. So, 1127 00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,760 commercial as a whole um reduced it to 1128 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,040 25% of the allowable impact fees under 1129 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,710 the study. 1130 00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:06,319 Any 1131 00:49:06,319 --> 00:49:11,510 questions or comments? 1132 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:12,720 » Yeah, 1133 00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:22,150 >> I could live with the 25. 1134 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,000 » Oh, yes, ma'am. 1135 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,920 >> Sorry, 1136 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,160 >> it won't let me. 1137 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:28,640 >> It's 1138 00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:29,520 >> someone pushed it. 1139 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,599 >> Yeah, someone pushed it. Which 1140 00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:33,280 >> Can you kick it out, Melissa? 1141 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:38,390 >> Yeah. 1142 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:42,240 It's a new motion here. 1143 00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:42,640 Second. 1144 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:43,680 >> Okay, we have a motion. 1145 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,680 >> Okay, it let you make the motion. 1146 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,680 >> Yes, she made the motion. Now, we need a 1147 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,160 second by Alderman Bradley. 1148 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:51,359 >> No. 1149 00:49:51,359 --> 00:49:52,880 >> Oh, yes, she did. We seconded that. 1150 00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:53,920 Okay. 1151 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,640 >> Any other questions or comments? 1152 00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,800 >> What was the primary reason for asking 1153 00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,200 that they be lowered? Is it because they 1154 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,160 felt 1155 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:03,839 >> just hearing from developers in the 1156 00:50:03,839 --> 00:50:06,319 commercial area just kind of looking at 1157 00:50:06,319 --> 00:50:08,559 you know the cost of the impact fees 1158 00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:09,680 when they're starting to build up 1159 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:12,480 particularly larger um uh larger 1160 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,280 businesses um the way that they're 1161 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:16,800 structured it's based on square foot. 1162 00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,520 So, for example, a big box store um 1163 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,800 might not really uh I'll use example of 1164 00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,640 transportation. Right now, you know, the 1165 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,640 transportation cost is is pretty high, 1166 00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,640 but a big box store really is not 1167 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:29,760 necessarily going to have that much of 1168 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:31,280 an impact on transportation, but because 1169 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,520 it's based on the the size of the square 1170 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,680 footage, it becomes a really high dollar 1171 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,359 amount when you're trying to get in 1172 00:50:37,359 --> 00:50:43,680 certain um commercial providers like I'm afraid to say TJ Maxx or like 1173 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,280 Publix, but those are things that we 1174 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,720 know people would love to have in 1175 00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:48,559 Springfield, but it's kind of cost 1176 00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:50,400 prohibitive to develop the space for 1177 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,079 them to come in and do it because the 1178 00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:54,240 impact fees are so high on the front end 1179 00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:56,240 for the developers. So, I think trying 1180 00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:57,839 to find a bit of a sweet spot where we 1181 00:50:57,839 --> 00:51:00,880 are incentivizing developers um to to 1182 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,480 get these folks in the door while also 1183 00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:03,839 still trying to recoup some of the money 1184 00:51:03,839 --> 00:51:06,640 for uh the development of these spaces. 1185 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:07,839 >> Mr. Mayor, 1186 00:51:07,839 --> 00:51:08,319 >> yes, sir. 1187 00:51:08,319 --> 00:51:10,400 >> Is it for Mr. Mr. Moore? Would you like 1188 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,720 to join in this conversation, please, 1189 00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:14,480 sir? 1190 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,720 give us 1191 00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:23,510 insight from your position. 1192 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,920 » Thank you. Uh Jim Moore with GS Morn. 1193 00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,040 I'd be happy to answer any questions. 1194 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,520 Yes, sir. 1195 00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:34,559 Um if you just want my insight, um I 1196 00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:35,920 think uh 1197 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,079 >> portion of 1198 00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:38,800 >> Okay. 1199 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:39,839 >> How would it help out? 1200 00:51:39,839 --> 00:51:42,319 >> Yeah. Yeah, sure. Um I think Miss H Miss 1201 00:51:42,319 --> 00:51:43,760 Hollowman did a great job kind of 1202 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,160 breaking down the impact fee. Um some of 1203 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,000 the other municipalities that that do 1204 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,000 have impact fees. A lot of them would be 1205 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,280 based on the use. Um so like a rest a 1206 00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,680 2500T restaurant would have a higher per 1207 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,880 square foot impact fee than per se like 1208 00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,480 a Publix who might be a 75,000t or 1209 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,640 100,000t building. And on a 2500 ft² 1210 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,760 building um you can recoup that uh 1211 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,640 through rent um that that may rent just 1212 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:15,200 round numbers say $30 per square foot 1213 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,280 and then you go rent to a Publix and 1214 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,160 they may pay $10 a square foot and it 1215 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,240 just doesn't translate with the I guess 1216 00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:24,079 the economy of scale would be the best 1217 00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:26,160 way to put it. Um it's like buying a 1218 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,839 house. The smaller the house, the higher 1219 00:52:27,839 --> 00:52:30,400 the per square foot price and it's the 1220 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,880 same same here. And uh just as you get 1221 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,119 into larger boxes, the rent number goes 1222 00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:37,760 down and you're paying the same uh 1223 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,599 system development charge. Um and then I 1224 00:52:41,599 --> 00:52:43,040 think it differentiates itself from 1225 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,040 residential in that these are these are 1226 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,119 creating jobs. They're creating sales 1227 00:52:47,119 --> 00:52:52,640 tax. Um and so uh just com like uh Miss 1228 00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:54,079 Hollerman said compared to our peer 1229 00:52:54,079 --> 00:52:56,400 cities uh when you look at the pop our 1230 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,400 peer cities by population our peer 1231 00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:02,319 cities by income um you know most of 1232 00:53:02,319 --> 00:53:04,000 them a lot of them are zero some of them 1233 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,400 may be a dollar or $2. And uh I 1234 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,559 certainly recognize the need. You know, 1235 00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:11,200 obviously the city's absorbing a new 1236 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,839 sewer facility. We got a fire station. 1237 00:53:13,839 --> 00:53:17,680 Um you know, we I just me personally, 1238 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,440 how it hits me, I love putting the money 1239 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:20,960 back into the buildings. And I hope you 1240 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,040 all recognize that and see what we've 1241 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,119 been building and the quality of work 1242 00:53:25,119 --> 00:53:27,839 and you know, sustainable long-term 1243 00:53:27,839 --> 00:53:30,079 materials and um we hope that's 1244 00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:31,599 appreciated and we want to continue 1245 00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:32,880 putting the money back into the 1246 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:34,640 buildings. So, thank you for the 1247 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:35,440 consider. Oh, yep. 1248 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,680 >> While you're there, I keep getting 1249 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,119 earfuls of 1250 00:53:41,119 --> 00:53:43,520 are you considering 1251 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,480 bringing another major sitdown 1252 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,440 restaurant? I'm going to throw out. 1253 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:50,640 >> I might have known that question was 1254 00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:51,440 coming. 1255 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,359 >> I will tell you there there is one there 1256 00:53:53,359 --> 00:53:55,680 is a sitown restaurant touring on the 1257 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,400 19th looking for a location. They need 1258 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,119 about an acre acre and a half. Uh they 1259 00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:04,000 will do a ground lease. uh Bill Bassoot 1260 00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,520 national sitdown chain. So if anybody 1261 00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:10,240 has any ideas um I think somewhere 1262 00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:12,400 around the corner it's uh they'll be 1263 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,000 hugely success. I'm open for business 1264 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,800 and every year I recruit them. Uh it 1265 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,200 just it just everything seems to still 1266 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:20,800 be kind of the to- go nature 1267 00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:21,839 unfortunately. 1268 00:54:21,839 --> 00:54:25,680 >> Well I I see two lucky spots. The one 1269 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:29,040 decides that the open field decides that 1270 00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:32,480 it million dollar mansion. Uh I'm pretty 1271 00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:35,440 sure you already tore the water of the 1272 00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,040 uh the car wash. Probably going to tear 1273 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:40,319 wits down. 1274 00:54:40,319 --> 00:54:42,720 >> Witz is coming down as well. Not Yeah, 1275 00:54:42,720 --> 00:54:44,880 that' be enough coming down right there. 1276 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,559 >> We could absolutely do a sit down 1277 00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:49,440 restaurant. Um 1278 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,599 I don't know to what level the board 1279 00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:53,200 would get involved. There have been 1280 00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,440 municipalities to pay a restaurant 1281 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,079 operator to open a business. If they say 1282 00:54:58,079 --> 00:54:59,680 open for I don't, you know, I'm not 1283 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,040 getting into that subject. Doesn't have 1284 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:02,800 anything to do with me. I'm just saying 1285 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:06,400 it's been done. Um maybe the board could 1286 00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:08,079 look, you know, cuz they're going to put 1287 00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:13,680 up some they may do $2 million a year in sales. Look at that tax revenue. 1288 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,240 How can we give that back to the chain 1289 00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:17,920 to open? And then when you're doing 1290 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,440 that, 1291 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,680 pick the chain you want. I guess that's 1292 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,400 something you all should look into. 1293 00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:26,400 >> But enough about fast food. 1294 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,319 >> I'm with you. Yeah. 1295 00:55:28,319 --> 00:55:31,200 >> In what you stated though, are you 1296 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,040 saying that your major concern is in the 1297 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:34,800 larger square footage buildings? Cuz if 1298 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,720 we lower this down to 25% as she's u 1299 00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:40,240 made the motion, then that's going to be 1300 00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:41,440 across the board 1301 00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,440 >> whether it's 2500 square foot, whether 1302 00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,200 it's 10,000, whether it's 25, whether 1303 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:46,319 it's 50 or above. 1304 00:55:46,319 --> 00:55:46,640 >> Sure. 1305 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,319 >> But is your concern mainly with the 1306 00:55:48,319 --> 00:55:50,319 larger square footage? 1307 00:55:50,319 --> 00:55:50,799 you know, 1308 00:55:50,799 --> 00:55:51,760 >> or the overall 1309 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,599 >> how deep you want to like. So, let's say 1310 00:55:53,599 --> 00:55:55,040 somebody wants to build a commercial 1311 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:58,000 building on a a road. Somebody mentioned 1312 00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:59,520 paving 17th Avenue. So, we're going to 1313 00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,280 go build a commercial building on 17th 1314 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,960 Avenue and they're going to pay the same 1315 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,720 rate as a Tom Austin or Memorial fronted 1316 00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:11,440 business. So, how you divide it up, I 1317 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:12,960 mean, I'm happy to answer any questions, 1318 00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,440 but 1319 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,280 >> Mr. Harris, if I can, I believe in 1320 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,880 speaking with the city attorney, and she 1321 00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:21,119 can please correct me if I'm wrong, but 1322 00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:25,040 I think that legally we can't kind of 1323 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:26,880 narrow it down by like, okay, if you're 1324 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:28,799 over the square footage, here's your 1325 00:56:28,799 --> 00:56:30,880 percent rate. I think it has to be 1326 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,720 across the board with like commercial as 1327 00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:34,720 a whole. Now, if I am wrong, that would 1328 00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:37,280 be wonderful to consider. 1329 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,079 >> That is that is my understanding. 1330 00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:41,760 However, 1331 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,920 it's been a little bit since I since I 1332 00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:48,240 have lunch. So I am perfectly fine to go 1333 00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:50,559 back and look at and look at that more 1334 00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:53,599 specifically. Generally we refer to C we 1335 00:56:53,599 --> 00:56:56,240 refer to categories which would be 1336 00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:59,119 commercial, residential, industrial but 1337 00:56:59,119 --> 00:57:02,000 it is possible that that could be 1338 00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,200 offered in another way. 1339 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,000 >> If if I can help mayor to shed light on 1340 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,880 that I think from the 1341 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:11,119 >> within the confines of our study because 1342 00:57:11,119 --> 00:57:12,880 that's the way our study was performed. 1343 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:15,040 So the study is performed and arrives at 1344 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,680 figures based on projected growth, 1345 00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:20,160 right? And it was done per 10,000 square 1346 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,960 foot across the board. So it's not I 1347 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,400 don't think it's necessarily it's not illegal. Other cities, White 1348 00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:28,480 House for instance, they their study was 1349 00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,960 done by use, right? And so they did 1350 00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,160 theirs by use. It's a little bit 1351 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,280 different take on it, a little bit 1352 00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,760 different angle. Our study was done per 1353 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,520 10,000 square foot for any commercial 1354 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,839 use. So within the confines of our 1355 00:57:39,839 --> 00:57:42,000 study, I don't think we could divide up 1356 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,400 uses. I think we would if that was if 1357 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:45,760 that were the case, the board would need 1358 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,640 to commission another study to be done 1359 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:50,559 to make sure that the numbers that you 1360 00:57:50,559 --> 00:57:53,200 chose could not be 1361 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:54,960 you could not be accused of being 1362 00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,280 arbitrary. 1363 00:57:57,280 --> 00:57:58,720 >> Yeah, perhaps that's something the board 1364 00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,760 may want to, you know, if you 1365 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,520 consider this motion today and then look 1366 00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,599 down the road, maybe we want to look at 1367 00:58:05,599 --> 00:58:08,160 dividing up by use. Um I know other 1368 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,920 white house like uh Mr. Martin said 1369 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:11,839 white house does that and they hammer 1370 00:58:11,839 --> 00:58:14,240 the restaurants but the restaurants the 1371 00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,319 small single tenant restaurants are they 1372 00:58:16,319 --> 00:58:18,799 are the highest users of the public 1373 00:58:18,799 --> 00:58:21,760 infrastructure and the systems. Um and 1374 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,520 our initial conversations with some of 1375 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:26,240 you and with uh Mr. Martin and and the 1376 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:27,760 mayor. I mean that's that's kind of 1377 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,760 where I was going with it was to still 1378 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,000 capture that high impact user but it 1379 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:33,920 seemed like this study provided some 1380 00:58:33,920 --> 00:58:35,760 difficulty. So certainly something to 1381 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:40,230 consider down the road. 1382 00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,640 » Ryan, if I could, I don't know what it 1383 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,119 would cost to do a new study. It seems 1384 00:58:45,119 --> 00:58:47,920 intimidating, lengthy, and costly. 1385 00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,599 >> Insight on that. 1386 00:58:49,599 --> 00:58:53,440 >> 60 to $70,000. Probably 1387 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,599 >> 9 to 10 months, maybe. 1388 00:58:57,599 --> 00:58:59,200 >> Well, 1389 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:03,040 probably not. 9 to 10 months usually is I think that's how long the study is 1390 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,319 that how long the study took last time 1391 00:59:04,319 --> 00:59:07,040 or was it longer than that the process 1392 00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:08,880 by the time you put out the solicitation 1393 00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,880 for a firm 1394 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,799 >> and go that's a 30-day and then you go 1395 00:59:12,799 --> 00:59:14,720 through that it could be it'll be a year 1396 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:15,280 it would be 1397 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,359 >> and then do we typically do new studies 1398 00:59:17,359 --> 00:59:18,880 periodically anyway 1399 00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:20,960 >> so our study that we did requires it to 1400 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,160 be reviews reviewed every 3 years and 1401 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,079 kind of matched up with the and this is 1402 00:59:26,079 --> 00:59:27,839 the information you don't want to know 1403 00:59:27,839 --> 00:59:31,119 >> but I'll tell you um our I call him our 1404 00:59:31,119 --> 00:59:32,960 system internally. I refer to him as our 1405 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,440 system development fees are but Mr. 1406 00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,400 Brewer the city engineer oversees that 1407 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,400 process and that study required it to be 1408 00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,119 reviewed internally every 3 years. His 1409 00:59:43,119 --> 00:59:45,359 review uh that he performed after the 1410 00:59:45,359 --> 00:59:48,000 first three-year period said we've got 1411 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,079 more growth coming than the than the uh 1412 00:59:50,079 --> 00:59:52,079 study projected so we should be charging 1413 00:59:52,079 --> 00:59:53,520 more. 1414 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,920 >> So which currently we are half of what 1415 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:56,880 we could be charging. 1416 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,280 >> Correct. And we're already half. So if 1417 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,200 we were to perform that same study 1418 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,000 today, it would be higher uh because 1419 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,799 that study was conducted prior to Vesper 1420 01:00:06,799 --> 01:00:09,359 Village being in in the equation. So 1421 01:00:09,359 --> 01:00:11,200 that's um I'm sorry. 1422 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:12,079 >> And Blackwood 1423 01:00:12,079 --> 01:00:14,720 >> and and Blackwood Farms. Yeah. So that's 1424 01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,720 So that that would be it would it would 1425 01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:20,720 not be good news, right? 1426 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,280 >> Any other questions, comments? 1427 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,200 >> I was just going to mention uh I think 1428 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:26,720 it's such a balancing act because you're 1429 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:29,599 right. these uh institutions, commercial 1430 01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:31,359 institutions that are bringing in uh 1431 01:00:31,359 --> 01:00:33,440 lots of tax revenue, which we want. 1432 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,760 That's a huge part of our, you know, 1433 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:39,839 budget. So, it's a tough tough balancing 1434 01:00:39,839 --> 01:00:42,870 act. 1435 01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:45,119 » So, we are voting on 1436 01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:49,200 >> Got a motion. Yeah. Okay. 1437 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:50,720 >> We're voting on 1438 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:51,760 >> the 25 1439 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,160 >> with the amendment that you added, 1440 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:55,920 correct? 1441 01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:00,079 taking the impact fee from 50% to 25 1442 01:01:00,079 --> 01:01:01,119 >> for commercial only. 1443 01:01:01,119 --> 01:01:04,079 >> Yeah, commercial only. Everyone clear on 1444 01:01:04,079 --> 01:01:05,920 that? 1445 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,160 >> Are we ready to vote? Let's cast our 1446 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,589 votes. 1447 01:01:11,599 --> 01:01:16,000 Anyone care to change their vote? 1448 01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,119 Would you tally the votes, please? 1449 01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:22,319 >> Motion passes 5 to one. 1450 01:01:22,319 --> 01:01:25,359 Item 3.7, discuss and possibly take 1451 01:01:25,359 --> 01:01:27,200 action on an application for a 1452 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:28,720 certificate. 1453 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,720 >> On the motion, 1454 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,240 >> the original motion was to put it on the 1455 01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:33,920 floor. You're good. We're good to move 1456 01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:34,480 on. 1457 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,160 >> All right. So, you're ready to move on 1458 01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:36,960 3.7. 1459 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:38,720 >> So, now we've got a vote on the motion. 1460 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,880 >> You're ready to move on 3.7. 1461 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:42,640 >> You're good. 1462 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,720 >> We haven't done 3.7 yet. 1463 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,400 >> Yeah, that's what you're ready for now. 1464 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,200 >> Okay. That's what I was at. Item 3.7, 1465 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:51,119 discuss and possibly take action on an 1466 01:01:51,119 --> 01:01:53,040 application for a certificate of 1467 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,760 compliance for retail food store wine 1468 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,599 for sudden service number 36 located at 1469 01:01:59,599 --> 01:02:03,440 501 Memorial Boulevard. We have a motion 1470 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,440 by Alman Bradley, a second by Alman 1471 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:10,950 Hubard. Any questions or comments? 1472 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,920 » Mayor, if I if I may, this has nothing 1473 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:17,200 to do with 3.7. I need to clarify 3.6. 1474 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:21,440 six. So everyone knows what what has happened and what will need to 1475 01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,280 happen. What you all have done is voted 1476 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,440 administratively and signaled your 1477 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,400 intent to amend the municipal code 1478 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,400 relative to commercial impact commercial 1479 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,319 system development fees. What will need 1480 01:02:32,319 --> 01:02:34,559 to happen is beginning in September. You 1481 01:02:34,559 --> 01:02:36,240 all will have an ordinance that reflects 1482 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:37,599 that. It will need to be passed in 1483 01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:39,839 September and in October to become 1484 01:02:39,839 --> 01:02:40,559 effective. 1485 01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:42,480 >> Thank you. So 1486 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:44,000 >> nothing to do with the certificate of 1487 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:45,200 compliance. 1488 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,280 >> Thank you. Thank you, 1489 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,920 >> Mr. Martin. 1490 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:54,000 >> So, we're back on item 3.7. 1491 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,520 >> Any questions or comments? 1492 01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:56,640 >> Which location is this? 1493 01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:57,599 >> Where's it located at? 1494 01:02:57,599 --> 01:02:59,200 >> The one down. 1495 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:00,160 >> Memorial. 1496 01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:00,720 >> Yeah. 1497 01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:01,359 >> Memorial. 1498 01:03:01,359 --> 01:03:02,880 >> Crossies. 1499 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:06,000 >> It's 50. 1500 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,319 >> It says on 501 Memorial. 1501 01:03:08,319 --> 01:03:11,040 >> Right across from the building. 1502 01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:12,079 >> Right across the building. 1503 01:03:12,079 --> 01:03:13,119 >> Yeah, it's the one. It's the one at 1504 01:03:13,119 --> 01:03:17,510 Fifth Avenue. 50. Yeah. 1505 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,680 Everyone clear on that? 1506 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,200 >> One down there. We ready to vote? 1507 01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:26,000 >> Let's cast our votes. 1508 01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:29,359 >> Anyone care to change their votes? 1509 01:03:29,359 --> 01:03:31,119 >> Would you tally the votes, please? 1510 01:03:31,119 --> 01:03:33,359 >> Motion passes six to zero. 1511 01:03:33,359 --> 01:03:36,400 >> Item 3.8, discuss and possibly take 1512 01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,799 action on a water leak insurance 1513 01:03:38,799 --> 01:03:41,039 protection program for customers of the 1514 01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:43,280 water system. We have a motion by 1515 01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,520 alderman Hollowman, second by alderman 1516 01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:48,640 Bradley. City manager Ryan Martin has 1517 01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,079 something to add for this. 1518 01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:51,359 >> Thank you, Mayor. So, this is something 1519 01:03:51,359 --> 01:03:53,280 that we've never done before. A lot of 1520 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:58,720 water utilities in the state do this and I'm highly recommending that we 1521 01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,880 pursue this this we actually began this 1522 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,319 research about seven or eight years ago 1523 01:04:02,319 --> 01:04:04,720 prior uh to me becoming city manager. 1524 01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,720 The previous city manager was um Miss 1525 01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:09,280 Holt was was looking at this as well. It 1526 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,240 is a leak protection program that 1527 01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,640 results in the customers paying a small 1528 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,599 dollar amount premium per month that 1529 01:04:17,599 --> 01:04:19,680 protects them. And so you build your 1530 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,599 plan with the company. It's called Serve 1531 01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:24,000 Line. Uh it's usually about $200 to $3 a 1532 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,440 month. And that will provide generally 1533 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,880 about $2,500 in protection up to two 1534 01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:31,039 leagues in a calendar year period. I 1535 01:04:31,039 --> 01:04:32,480 believe or roll it's either calendar 1536 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,720 year or rolling 12-month period. Why 1537 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:36,240 does why is that necessary? We're 1538 01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:40,400 actually, it is difficult uh when we see 1539 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:43,520 these leaks happen to our customers. 1540 01:04:43,520 --> 01:04:45,280 Miss Hollowman has one in her ward right 1541 01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,920 now that we're uh dealing with with a 1542 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:51,359 lady there, the limited income, a 1543 01:04:51,359 --> 01:04:54,079 husband with an illness and had not one 1544 01:04:54,079 --> 01:04:55,760 but two leaks that resulted in about a 1545 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,079 $2,500 water bill over the course of two 1546 01:04:58,079 --> 01:05:00,799 months. What are we currently authorized 1547 01:05:00,799 --> 01:05:02,640 to do? We're currently off and I'm just 1548 01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,480 going to use that that because this is 1549 01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,079 kind of what sent this I said we need to 1550 01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:07,599 bring the leak protection program back 1551 01:05:07,599 --> 01:05:09,280 up again. 1552 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:10,880 What are we authorized to do? The 1553 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:12,960 current conditions of service that you 1554 01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,680 all put in place allow us to issue a 25% 1555 01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,520 leak adjustment. Okay. And then put them 1556 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,039 on a maximum of a six-month payment 1557 01:05:19,039 --> 01:05:20,720 plan. 1558 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:22,799 The 25% leak adjustment. What does that 1559 01:05:22,799 --> 01:05:26,720 do? That's great. Uh except that's 25% 1560 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,119 of $2,500, right? So she's still up 1561 01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:31,440 against a lot of money. What happens to 1562 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,839 the 25%. Again, it's kind of like when 1563 01:05:33,839 --> 01:05:36,640 we talk about um sidewalks, that's not 1564 01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:39,280 the city doesn't absorb that. That's 1565 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:40,960 shared by the other customers. We've all 1566 01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:42,640 heard the what what about people that go 1567 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:43,920 to the emergency room and don't pay? 1568 01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:45,039 Well, that cost gets passed along to 1569 01:05:45,039 --> 01:05:46,240 everybody. What's the same thing with a 1570 01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:48,079 water leak? That water was produced and 1571 01:05:48,079 --> 01:05:49,520 transported and that water has to be 1572 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,440 accounted for and that's shared by the 1573 01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,200 rest of the customers. And so, the 1574 01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:54,880 utility never receives that revenue. 1575 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,799 It's it's built into the rate structure 1576 01:05:56,799 --> 01:05:58,480 for the rest of the customers. What 1577 01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,400 would the leak protection program do? 1578 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,319 The leak protection program and maybe it 1579 01:06:02,319 --> 01:06:04,079 would be cheaper. We don't know uh 1580 01:06:04,079 --> 01:06:05,599 exactly. We've got the company working 1581 01:06:05,599 --> 01:06:07,839 on it. But before they went too far, I 1582 01:06:07,839 --> 01:06:09,760 wanted to make sure that you all were 1583 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:11,680 interested in seeing something before we 1584 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,160 did a whole lot of research and got a 1585 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:15,920 lot of things together. If so, we'll 1586 01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,359 bring it back in September and hopefully 1587 01:06:17,359 --> 01:06:18,880 have an agreement, a proposed agreement 1588 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:21,039 for you all to approve. But we're 1589 01:06:21,039 --> 01:06:23,119 looking at about $2 to $3 a month to 1590 01:06:23,119 --> 01:06:25,920 provide about $2,500 in protection. At 1591 01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,599 $2 a month, it would take a thousand 1592 01:06:27,599 --> 01:06:31,599 months for that $2 to amount to $2,500, 1593 01:06:31,599 --> 01:06:33,280 right? It would take a long time. So, 1594 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,280 it's definitely a wise investment for 1595 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:36,799 the customer to protect against the 1596 01:06:36,799 --> 01:06:39,039 leaks. I saw it with my own grandmother 1597 01:06:39,039 --> 01:06:40,400 four or five years ago when she had a 1598 01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,760 $1,500 water bill and on limited income 1599 01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:47,520 that hurts badly, right? And so, what's 1600 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,280 the benefit to the other customers who 1601 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:51,119 aren't the victims of a leak? Well, they 1602 01:06:51,119 --> 01:06:53,039 no longer have to subsidize that 25% 1603 01:06:53,039 --> 01:06:56,079 leak adjustment, right? Because now the 1604 01:06:56,079 --> 01:06:57,839 insurance program is going to pay 100% 1605 01:06:57,839 --> 01:06:59,920 of the bill. So, it's a win for 1606 01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:01,280 everyone. It's a win for the customer 1607 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:02,559 that's the victim of the leak. It's a 1608 01:07:02,559 --> 01:07:03,920 win for the other customers who've been 1609 01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,400 subsidizing the 25% leak adjustment. 1610 01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:08,640 It's a win internally operationally 1611 01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,559 because we're no longer administering 1612 01:07:10,559 --> 01:07:12,720 payment plans and leak adjustments 1613 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,079 because that's all going to be taken 1614 01:07:14,079 --> 01:07:16,880 care of uh by the Serveline program. 1615 01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,200 This program was adopted and formulated 1616 01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:20,799 for Tennessee. The Tennessee Association 1617 01:07:20,799 --> 01:07:22,559 of Utility Districts actually, from my 1618 01:07:22,559 --> 01:07:24,559 understanding, put this together and a 1619 01:07:24,559 --> 01:07:26,640 lot of utility districts in the in the 1620 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,359 state have adopted this program. I 1621 01:07:29,359 --> 01:07:31,839 believe um there was one Mr. Price that 1622 01:07:31,839 --> 01:07:33,920 you mentioned, who did you mention? 1623 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:35,520 >> Portland looked at this and the one 1624 01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,280 local to us was Castellian Springs. 1625 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,920 >> Castion Springs. Ashlin City also, I 1626 01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:41,039 believe, has adopted it. There are 1627 01:07:41,039 --> 01:07:42,319 several in Middle Tennessee that have 1628 01:07:42,319 --> 01:07:44,240 adopted it. And so I would highly 1629 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,119 recommend uh us to pursue that as well. 1630 01:07:47,119 --> 01:07:50,240 It's no cost to the utility whatsoever. 1631 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,319 No cost to the and when I I I've used 1632 01:07:52,319 --> 01:07:54,400 that terminology on purpose because I 1633 01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:55,760 could say no cost to the city, but 1634 01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:57,760 really it's the utility uh and it's the 1635 01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,599 customers because that's who that's 1636 01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:01,280 who's bearing the cost right now. So 1637 01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:02,640 I'll be glad to answer any questions you 1638 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:03,760 have about it. So 1639 01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:05,359 >> that monthly fee to the customer, is 1640 01:08:05,359 --> 01:08:07,440 that mandatory or elective or 1641 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,400 >> they can opt out? Okay. But it is that 1642 01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:12,160 we were told that the program is an auto 1643 01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:14,160 optin. So all customers we would put out 1644 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:15,680 there would be a notice period where you 1645 01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,159 would have 60 90 days to opt out if you 1646 01:08:18,159 --> 01:08:20,319 want to. They said they usually do see 1647 01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:22,480 about a 1% opt out because some people 1648 01:08:22,480 --> 01:08:24,080 are just I don't want to pay $2. I want 1649 01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:26,560 to take my chances. Um and that's okay 1650 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,560 but 99% of the customers I believe 1651 01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,279 usually stay in and so everyone would 1652 01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:33,120 have the opportunity to opt out at any 1653 01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,239 time. Uh, and I think within the first 1654 01:08:36,239 --> 01:08:37,839 30 days, you could even opt out and get 1655 01:08:37,839 --> 01:08:40,159 refunded if you missed the first window, 1656 01:08:40,159 --> 01:08:41,600 I think, is the way they they explained 1657 01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,759 it to us. So, but opt out at any time. 1658 01:08:43,759 --> 01:08:46,000 It's purely voluntary, but it is an auto 1659 01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:47,120 opt in on the front end. 1660 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,040 >> So, you're just trying$1 or $2 a month 1661 01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:49,759 on a deal. 1662 01:08:49,759 --> 01:08:50,799 >> That's right. 1663 01:08:50,799 --> 01:08:52,799 >> To protect against a $2,500 leak. 1664 01:08:52,799 --> 01:08:54,480 >> I think it's a great deal. Yeah, 1665 01:08:54,480 --> 01:08:57,839 >> it's it's a we have I mean we talk to 1666 01:08:57,839 --> 01:09:00,640 these customers and how they stress 1667 01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:03,839 about having a $1,200 $1,300 water bill 1668 01:09:03,839 --> 01:09:06,239 when when when the when the pipe breaks, 1669 01:09:06,239 --> 01:09:06,799 >> right? 1670 01:09:06,799 --> 01:09:08,640 >> Yeah. 1671 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:12,000 >> Any other questions or comments? 1672 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,239 >> Not I don't think we need a vote this 1673 01:09:14,239 --> 01:09:15,839 month. I think we just I wanted to make 1674 01:09:15,839 --> 01:09:17,679 sure you all were were okay with us 1675 01:09:17,679 --> 01:09:19,120 pursuing this and bringing you back in 1676 01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:20,560 agreement. I'm hearing that. I'm not 1677 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:22,799 hearing any objection to it. So, we'll 1678 01:09:22,799 --> 01:09:24,159 bring you back something later. Thank 1679 01:09:24,159 --> 01:09:24,640 you. 1680 01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:28,000 >> Thank you, Ryan. Item 3.10 discusses 1681 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,239 property take action on title 16, 1682 01:09:30,239 --> 01:09:32,799 chapter 3 of the Springfield Municipal 1683 01:09:32,799 --> 01:09:35,120 Code relative to the city's sidewalk 1684 01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,839 maintenance regulations. We have a 1685 01:09:37,839 --> 01:09:39,520 motion by Alderman Hollowman, a second 1686 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:42,319 by Alderman Hover. 1687 01:09:42,319 --> 01:09:48,309 Questions, comments? 1688 01:09:48,319 --> 01:09:51,749 Me? 1689 01:09:51,759 --> 01:09:53,279 Well, 1690 01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:56,000 I would like to thank the city attorney 1691 01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,159 for the research and kind of looking at 1692 01:09:58,159 --> 01:10:01,440 our codes. And you know, this I think is 1693 01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:05,120 just it's hard because I think that um 1694 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,440 it's very hard for all the people that 1695 01:10:07,440 --> 01:10:09,120 I've talked to, citizens, to understand 1696 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,360 that that sidewalk they didn't choose is 1697 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:12,960 their responsibility, but then we all 1698 01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,760 benefit from it. So, it's tough, but I 1699 01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,120 think that just kind of talking through 1700 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:18,960 what we talked through last time, the 1701 01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,520 cost is too astronomical for the city to 1702 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,320 absorb. I and and of course, we we have 1703 01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:25,520 the issue if there are places in the 1704 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:27,040 city that don't have the benefit of 1705 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,080 sidewalks. So, I think that that my 1706 01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:35,199 thoughts at this point are to how do we ensure preserve the sidewalks 1707 01:10:35,199 --> 01:10:37,679 that we do have? Perhaps we need to do a 1708 01:10:37,679 --> 01:10:39,520 little bit better on enforcement of 1709 01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:42,480 those that are really bad off. Um, and 1710 01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:44,719 then just educating continually people 1711 01:10:44,719 --> 01:10:46,880 because they just don't they don't under 1712 01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,719 they don't understand they don't know. 1713 01:10:48,719 --> 01:10:52,080 Um, and I I'm I wanted to talk to the 1714 01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:53,600 board about whether and I don't know how 1715 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,920 you fund this, but having some sort of 1716 01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,159 um potential sidewalk maintenance fund 1717 01:10:58,159 --> 01:11:00,400 for those who are truly indigent and 1718 01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,080 need assistance and cannot do it 1719 01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:04,320 themselves. I think in speaking with the 1720 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,360 city attorney there was mentioned that some other places have done that 1721 01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:09,679 and had like you know based on income 1722 01:11:09,679 --> 01:11:13,040 would someone apply? Um I'm not aware of 1723 01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,120 that being a particularly pressing issue 1724 01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:17,360 right now. I think it's more of just we 1725 01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,600 need to maybe start I don't want to say 1726 01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,280 policing it because that sounds kind of 1727 01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,600 more intimidating but making sure that 1728 01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:27,199 people do I do also want to um request 1729 01:11:27,199 --> 01:11:30,560 that we modify our current ordinance 1730 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:33,840 because it currently says that the uh 1731 01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,920 homeowner would have to correct 1732 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,560 sidewalks within 5 days and I don't 1733 01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,000 think that anyone would have really the 1734 01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:41,360 ability to do that unless they 1735 01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,760 themselves could fix it. So, I think 1736 01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,560 that there's other cities that allow, 1737 01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:50,239 you know, 30 to 60 days, which I think I personally think 60 days is more 1738 01:11:50,239 --> 01:11:51,600 reasonable because finding someone to do 1739 01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,440 it and getting them to look at it and 1740 01:11:53,440 --> 01:11:54,640 follow through the process. I think we 1741 01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,040 just need to give people more time to 1742 01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:58,560 fix the sidewalks after they're 1743 01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,920 notified. That's just my two cents. 1744 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:04,080 >> Thank you, 1745 01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,159 Mayor. May I address that? I'd like to 1746 01:12:06,159 --> 01:12:08,480 address things that Alderman Holland 1747 01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:10,719 brought up. It's great points. I will 1748 01:12:10,719 --> 01:12:13,040 share with the board uh with regard to 1749 01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,120 enforcement. You all funded I requested 1750 01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:16,800 and you all were gracious enough to fund 1751 01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,120 a position in this year's budget a 1752 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,199 dedicated property maintenance inspector 1753 01:12:21,199 --> 01:12:23,040 that we have never had. Property 1754 01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,080 maintenance has formerly been kind of 1755 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:27,600 put under the umbrella of our building 1756 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,760 and codes inspectors. And that is tough 1757 01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,679 in a high growth environment because 1758 01:12:31,679 --> 01:12:33,280 when they're when we have a thousand 1759 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:34,960 units under construction right now or 1760 01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:36,800 dirt's been turned on a thousand units, 1761 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,480 there's a lot going on for those codes 1762 01:12:38,480 --> 01:12:40,400 inspectors. So we had an opportunity 1763 01:12:40,400 --> 01:12:43,280 based on some personnel transition to do 1764 01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,360 that this year in the budget and you all 1765 01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:47,440 have funded that and we are excited 1766 01:12:47,440 --> 01:12:49,520 about that person that that position has 1767 01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:52,480 been filled as of last Monday 1768 01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:54,880 and I have told him that he's my new 1769 01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:58,560 best friend. Um because we because that 1770 01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:00,000 is going we're going to tackle property 1771 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,239 maintenance. So sidewalk enforcement is 1772 01:13:02,239 --> 01:13:04,320 something that would be able to fall uh 1773 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:06,080 within and underneath the property 1774 01:13:06,080 --> 01:13:07,440 maintenance inspector. I'm really 1775 01:13:07,440 --> 01:13:09,040 excited about the fact that we finally 1776 01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,600 have someone dedicated uh to ensure that 1777 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:12,880 the city's cleanup. And it's not that 1778 01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,719 our codes inspectors were lazy. It's 1779 01:13:14,719 --> 01:13:15,679 that they didn't have time to do 1780 01:13:15,679 --> 01:13:17,040 property maintenance because when you 1781 01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,280 have so many inspections to do, uh 1782 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:20,560 property maintenance falls by the 1783 01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,320 wayside. And unless a complaint comes 1784 01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,960 in, we were the you would you could see 1785 01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:27,440 the selfinitiated aspects of property 1786 01:13:27,440 --> 01:13:28,880 maintenance drop off and then they could 1787 01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,400 pick back up when inspections weren't 1788 01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,000 high. And so it was always an eb and 1789 01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,800 flow. Having that dedicated person to do 1790 01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:36,159 that is going to be extremely 1791 01:13:36,159 --> 01:13:37,840 beneficial. And I think we've got 1792 01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:41,679 someone who's really good to do that and be able to do it in a positive way 1793 01:13:41,679 --> 01:13:43,199 rather than just what I say beating 1794 01:13:43,199 --> 01:13:46,080 people over the head and shoulders. Um, 1795 01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:50,560 with regard to u 5 days 1796 01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:52,480 that is what the ordinance says in 1797 01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:54,239 practicality and from a due process 1798 01:13:54,239 --> 01:13:56,000 standpoint, it doesn't play out that way 1799 01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:57,679 because they would get served notice 1800 01:13:57,679 --> 01:14:00,960 first. We can't cite them until we 1801 01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:05,360 provide notice. So, in theory, they 1802 01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,280 would have a lot longer than 5 days, but 1803 01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:08,640 I understand we can clean up the 1804 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:10,719 language. I have no issue doing that. 1805 01:14:10,719 --> 01:14:12,719 And with regard to the sidewalk fund 1806 01:14:12,719 --> 01:14:15,280 that you mentioned, um, what we have 1807 01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:17,280 heard other folks do, and I'm not just 1808 01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:20,159 through the grapevine, we have heard of 1809 01:14:20,159 --> 01:14:24,239 criteria, you know, the the city 1810 01:14:24,239 --> 01:14:28,239 government will provide up to 1811 01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:31,120 a, you know, 25% of the sidewalk repair, 1812 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:34,080 up to a $500 maximum 1813 01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:35,920 if you meet certain income eligibility 1814 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,080 limits, which may be 100, say 125% of 1815 01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:39,520 the federal poverty level or something 1816 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:40,880 like that. And if that's something you 1817 01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:42,480 all would like to see brought back in 1818 01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:44,719 the form of a proposal or see that in 1819 01:14:44,719 --> 01:14:46,239 writing, we could certainly bring that 1820 01:14:46,239 --> 01:14:48,159 back next month. 1821 01:14:48,159 --> 01:14:49,600 >> For what it's worth, I would like that 1822 01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:51,520 just just to kind of again I think that 1823 01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:53,440 Alderman Gra made a good point which is 1824 01:14:53,440 --> 01:14:56,159 that I think there are a lot of people 1825 01:14:56,159 --> 01:14:58,480 >> that can do it and and just don't know 1826 01:14:58,480 --> 01:15:00,480 and that comes in with the education and 1827 01:15:00,480 --> 01:15:01,840 making people aware of what they need to 1828 01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:03,920 do. But for those who can't and the in 1829 01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:05,600 the interest of preserving what we 1830 01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,080 already have given the high cost of 1831 01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,560 putting it all back um I would love to 1832 01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:13,120 see that as just for those who may not 1833 01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:15,040 have the financial ability to completely 1834 01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:20,709 fix it. 1835 01:15:20,719 --> 01:15:23,600 » This did not make me happy by the way. 1836 01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:27,520 >> I did not find joy in that memo. 1837 01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:30,159 >> Mayor, if I could clarify, he started 1838 01:15:30,159 --> 01:15:32,320 last Monday. So, I need some time. He 1839 01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:34,480 needs to get trained. So, I don't want I 1840 01:15:34,480 --> 01:15:36,000 don't want to set the expectations too 1841 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:38,320 high that we'll be, you know, doing full 1842 01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,000 sidewalk enforcement tomorrow. 1843 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:41,600 >> I mean, we can't in the building now. 1844 01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:42,320 You're not in there. 1845 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,320 >> You can't go all Marty Fo, 1846 01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:46,239 >> right out there. I mean, he's got to 1847 01:15:46,239 --> 01:15:47,760 have some time to get acclimated. 1848 01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:49,120 >> That's right. Understand city 1849 01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:50,719 regulations, understand property 1850 01:15:50,719 --> 01:15:52,880 maintenance code, and be trained in 1851 01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:54,719 processes and and so it'll take some 1852 01:15:54,719 --> 01:15:56,239 it'll it'll take a little bit, but we 1853 01:15:56,239 --> 01:15:57,199 finally have that position. 1854 01:15:57,199 --> 01:15:58,480 >> But you see that he'll be here in 1855 01:15:58,480 --> 01:15:59,440 September. 1856 01:15:59,440 --> 01:16:03,280 >> He'll be right. Yeah, 1857 01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:05,280 >> we will not take any action on this 1858 01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:06,560 tonight. Correct. 1859 01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,320 >> Well, we we would need some direction 1860 01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:09,840 from the board if I've heard from 1861 01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:11,120 Alderman Hollowman that she would like 1862 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:13,520 to see a proposal for a sidewalk fund. I 1863 01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:14,880 have not heard from anyone else. 1864 01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,000 >> As I would also 1865 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:18,640 >> Okay. 1866 01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:19,840 >> What are your thoughts about the 1867 01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:20,400 sidewalk? 1868 01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:22,080 >> I'm fine if they want to look at it and 1869 01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:26,080 see what we can do. Does anybody have 1870 01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:29,360 any idea like a average house on Walnut 1871 01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,520 Street if the sidewalk had to be fully 1872 01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:34,000 replaced what that cost would be? 1873 01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,960 >> Any Mr. Moore could probably answer 1874 01:16:36,960 --> 01:16:37,840 that. 1875 01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:38,560 >> What? 1876 01:16:38,560 --> 01:16:40,480 >> Like if you had a an average house on 1877 01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:42,400 Walnut Street that the the entire 1878 01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,000 sidewalk in front of their house needed 1879 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:47,679 to be replaced. What cost estimate? 1880 01:16:47,679 --> 01:16:50,239 >> Say if it was 75 or 80 linear 75 or 80 1881 01:16:50,239 --> 01:16:52,480 linear feet. 1882 01:16:52,480 --> 01:16:53,760 And I know a lot of them could probably 1883 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,000 just be repaired instead of fully 1884 01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:57,840 replaced. 1885 01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,719 >> Oh yeah, there's plenty of those also 1886 01:17:00,719 --> 01:17:03,679 because there's some historic 1887 01:17:03,679 --> 01:17:11,430 >> aspects of it. 1888 01:17:11,440 --> 01:17:16,709 » That doesn't 1889 01:17:16,719 --> 01:17:19,040 $5,200 would just be start from scratch. 1890 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:19,679 >> Right. 1891 01:17:19,679 --> 01:17:20,400 >> Mr. Trump, 1892 01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:21,920 >> would this sidewalk fund be used? 1893 01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,400 Citywide, correct? Not just for one 1894 01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:25,600 particular area. 1895 01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,360 >> That that would be up to you all as to 1896 01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:27,679 why. 1897 01:17:27,679 --> 01:17:30,080 >> That is my request. Citywide if it's a 1898 01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,320 sidewalk that exists to preserve it. 1899 01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:33,600 Have this option for those who can't 1900 01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:34,000 afford 1901 01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,800 >> and also explore 1902 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,520 putting the sidewalks in the sections of 1903 01:17:39,520 --> 01:17:43,679 town that don't have sidewalks. Okay. 1904 01:17:43,679 --> 01:17:45,120 >> That's also up to you all. 1905 01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:45,679 >> Yeah. Yeah. If 1906 01:17:45,679 --> 01:17:46,800 >> you wanted to put in sidewalks 1907 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,080 everywhere in the city tomorrow, you 1908 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:48,480 could. 1909 01:17:48,480 --> 01:17:54,800 >> Yeah. Major money. Make sure there's there's there's a balance there. 1910 01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:56,400 Okay. 1911 01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,480 >> Rose Hill. I'm tired of my people 1912 01:17:58,480 --> 01:18:03,030 walking on the road. 1913 01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:06,080 » So, okay. 1914 01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:07,679 >> I've heard consensus. I will bring back 1915 01:18:07,679 --> 01:18:08,800 a proposal in September. 1916 01:18:08,800 --> 01:18:11,520 >> Okay. 1917 01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:15,360 >> Just move this item to to next. 1918 01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,040 >> Yeah. 1919 01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,440 No vote taken tonight. We move on 1920 01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:22,960 to our consent agenda. Item 4.1. 1921 01:18:22,960 --> 01:18:24,719 Gas department has request for approval 1922 01:18:24,719 --> 01:18:27,199 to purchase a Caterpillar mini excavator 1923 01:18:27,199 --> 01:18:31,679 with trailer in the amount of $84,952 1924 01:18:31,679 --> 01:18:33,600 from Thompson Machinery of Lever, 1925 01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:38,880 Tennessee utilizing SWC number 2525, 1926 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:42,000 budget amount $90,000. 1927 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,480 We have a motion by Vice Mayor Harris, 1928 01:18:44,480 --> 01:18:47,520 second by Albert. Any questions or 1929 01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:49,920 comments? 1930 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,640 Are we ready to vote? 1931 01:18:52,640 --> 01:18:55,520 Let's cast our votes. 1932 01:18:55,520 --> 01:19:00,470 Anyone care to change their vote? 1933 01:19:00,480 --> 01:19:03,120 » Would you count, please? 1934 01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:05,440 >> Motion passes six to zero. 1935 01:19:05,440 --> 01:19:07,760 >> At this time, city manager Ryan Martin 1936 01:19:07,760 --> 01:19:08,800 has his report. 1937 01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:10,320 >> Thank you, Mayor. Uh, first I want to 1938 01:19:10,320 --> 01:19:12,640 recognize uh our police chief, Jason 1939 01:19:12,640 --> 01:19:14,880 Head. He was recently sworn in as the 1940 01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:16,000 vice president of the Tennessee 1941 01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:17,679 Association of Chiefs of Police. That is 1942 01:19:17,679 --> 01:19:24,229 a uh phenomenal accomplishment. YEAH, 1943 01:19:24,239 --> 01:19:26,320 that is a quite an accomplishment to 1944 01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,320 have somebody from our from our city 1945 01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,159 representing on a on a statewide. He's 1946 01:19:30,159 --> 01:19:32,880 also very uh active and involved in in 1947 01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:34,400 the International Association of of 1948 01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,480 Chiefs of Police. I was going to cover 1949 01:19:36,480 --> 01:19:38,400 the property maintenance inspector, but 1950 01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:40,800 uh and share my excitement there, but 1951 01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:42,000 we've already done that. I need to 1952 01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:44,000 update you on our fuel situation. What 1953 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:47,040 we've had, we had a u a malfunction. 1954 01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:48,320 Most of you know, some of you may not 1955 01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:50,640 know, we have always provided our own 1956 01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,080 fuel. We've had our own fuel tanks and 1957 01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:53,920 our own fuel system to to fuel city 1958 01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:55,760 vehicles and city equipment. We had a 1959 01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:58,239 malfunction there. Uh those that fuel 1960 01:19:58,239 --> 01:20:00,400 system and those pumps were decades and 1961 01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,040 decades old. We have pivoted away from 1962 01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:05,760 doing that fully internally now. 1963 01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,520 hundreds of thousands of dollars to 1964 01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,159 repair a 40-year-old system was not what 1965 01:20:10,159 --> 01:20:12,239 we thought was a wise investment. Uh 1966 01:20:12,239 --> 01:20:14,719 we've negotiated a deal with a uh with a 1967 01:20:14,719 --> 01:20:16,800 company to provide a deep discount on 1968 01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:18,320 fuel that will give us a little bit more 1969 01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:20,800 flexibility and uh and so we've 1970 01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:23,120 implemented that. We do intend to 1971 01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:24,960 maintain some fuel storage in in the 1972 01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:27,040 event of emergencies and uh and 1973 01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:29,360 potentially an ethanol free aspect of 1974 01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:30,719 that. If not, we'll work out an 1975 01:20:30,719 --> 01:20:32,400 arrangement. But uh just to let you know 1976 01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:34,080 that's a strategic shift in our business 1977 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,640 operations and I it doesn't mean any 1978 01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:37,920 doesn't change your life or anything 1979 01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:38,960 like that but I always want to keep you 1980 01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:41,040 informed that we have a strategic shift 1981 01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:42,560 uh in our business operations because 1982 01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:44,800 now instead of buying loads of fuel we 1983 01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:47,760 will be purchasing it at the pump but 1984 01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,080 frankly at a at a better rate than we 1985 01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,400 were getting it in the loads. Uh first 1986 01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,000 Friday night market or first Fridays are 1987 01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:58,320 coming up. The next one is in September the 4th. in a couple of weeks. 1988 01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:01,360 As far as the economy so far in FY27, 1989 01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:02,960 sales tax receipts are kind of how we 1990 01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:04,880 gauge that and those are promising for 1991 01:21:04,880 --> 01:21:06,239 the first two months of the fiscal year. 1992 01:21:06,239 --> 01:21:08,080 Both months have been ahead of budget in 1993 01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,400 July and in August. And so that lets us 1994 01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:12,640 know how well our economy is performing 1995 01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:14,800 locally. It has nothing to do with, you 1996 01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,600 know, grabbing tax revenue. It has to do 1997 01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:19,280 with that's a great bell weather to know 1998 01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,360 if people are shopping local and how 1999 01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:22,800 well the economy is doing. So, it's a 2000 01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:24,880 very promising sign as far as the fire 2001 01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:26,560 station. And that's the last uh thing I 2002 01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:28,960 have on my list tonight. Uh we expect 2003 01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:31,199 our uh the IDB, the Industrial 2004 01:21:31,199 --> 01:21:32,320 Development Board expects their 2005 01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,640 guaranteed maximum price to be delivered 2006 01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:36,480 uh by the end of this week or early next 2007 01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:39,920 week. I think the uh bids are out for 2008 01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,159 the subcontractors and I think that bid 2009 01:21:42,159 --> 01:21:47,199 deadline was today or is was today. So we should know something by the end 2010 01:21:47,199 --> 01:21:49,760 of the week. What I expect to happen 2011 01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,639 being very realistic with you 2012 01:21:52,639 --> 01:21:54,000 is that we're going to need more money. 2013 01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,400 I think I told you this last month. Uh I 2014 01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:57,520 think we're going to need more money. We 2015 01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,520 had originally had a $7 million budget 2016 01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,920 and you issued 500,000 of that was cash 2017 01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:04,239 to get us started and $6.5 million bond 2018 01:22:04,239 --> 01:22:06,880 issue. I think we're going to need a 2019 01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:08,239 little bit more money. I just don't know 2020 01:22:08,239 --> 01:22:09,679 how much. We'll hopefully know in the 2021 01:22:09,679 --> 01:22:11,760 next week or so. What I anticipate 2022 01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:13,360 happening is the Industrial Development 2023 01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:16,239 Board, uh they meet in early September. 2024 01:22:16,239 --> 01:22:17,920 If they approve, if they're satisfied 2025 01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:19,440 with the result, what they're going to 2026 01:22:19,440 --> 01:22:21,679 do is approve that guaranteed maximum 2027 01:22:21,679 --> 01:22:23,199 price subject to the additional funding 2028 01:22:23,199 --> 01:22:26,560 that you all give them. Um, 2029 01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:28,880 Miss Sanford and I are working on a uh a 2030 01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:31,120 plan to figure out where that money 2031 01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,600 might come from. So, I hope to have that 2032 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,520 for you sometime soon. And if you've got 2033 01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:36,880 any to spare that you want to share, 2034 01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:38,480 we'll take that, too. So, 2035 01:22:38,480 --> 01:22:40,400 >> I say it come out of parks and rec. 2036 01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:44,790 >> There you go. 2037 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:46,880 » Oh, mayor. That's all I have. Thank you. 2038 01:22:46,880 --> 01:22:48,639 >> Thank Thank you, Ryan. 2039 01:22:48,639 --> 01:22:51,360 >> Any other questions, comments, 2040 01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:54,480 statements? If not, 2041 01:22:54,480 --> 01:22:56,639 journ. 2042 01:22:56,639 --> 01:22:59,199 >> Thank you everyone for joining us. 2043 01:22:59,199 --> 01:23:00,159 >> Have a good week. 2044 01:23:00,159 --> 01:23:02,400 >> How you doing? 2045 01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:06,400 >> Taking the boy around town.