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Hello everybody. Um, we are now on to

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uh, four,

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uh, two. The actual, uh, youth council,

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item will be deferred to a future, uh,

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to future meeting.

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Uh, so we're going to move on to the

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Squamish Community Forest Corporation.

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Um, and the, um,

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this one is very, uh, is very,

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uh, simple in in in my mind. Uh, so I'll

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try to explain it to, uh,

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Council. Be the judge of if it's as

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simple as it,

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um, as it appears. So, uh, just to

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briefly recap, Squamish Community Forest

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is is our first ever joint venture with

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the Squamish Nation, uh, and is is

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governed, um, by a board of directors.

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the,

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over time those, uh, appointments, um,

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uh,

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have are made by the, um, the Squamish

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Nation as they, through their process

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and as they see fit, have are made

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through this body. Uh, and currently

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Councillor Greenlaw and I,

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uh, are the representatives to this

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body.

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it's

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when I look at other,

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other bodies that we

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are responsible for appointing people

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um, we solicit recommendations from that

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those bodies. Say, library board's a

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great example. So, library board puts

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forward does the

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looks at their their needs and

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uh, for board members solicits reviews

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puts forward recommendations to council

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to to endorse. And, um, a couple things

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here. So, one, I would like

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because this is a new,

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uh, entity, we haven't had that that

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process. It has been exclusively council

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members.

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appointments from the nation side at

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this point are 100% not elected

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officials.

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So, and I think that for we've

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also for arms length purposes and so on,

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um,

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we have three seats and it's my, uh,

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recommendation

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that we, um,

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request,

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uh, the community forest to, um,

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solicit, uh, applications for board

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members that meet their needs and

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bring them forward as suggestions to as

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recommendations to council when those

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appointments happen at the start of next

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term, uh, leaving one seat for an

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elected official.

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So, it's um,

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for me this is, uh, we're moving from a

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sort of foundational time where those

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seats are exclusive have been

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exclusively for,

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um, elected officials and getting the

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foundational,

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um, systems up and running and, um,

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and then

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it should really run with a maximum I

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think of one elected official that is

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still appointed by

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council. So, today I'd be looking for

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I'll turn into a motion, but just why

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we're talking about this is that

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to do that

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to be some policy development and then

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executing the recruitment and

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consideration of

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what those recommendations would be to

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bring forward to council for

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in time for swearing in, which is when

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all the new appointments would would

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the the concept and

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there in the past have been big lag

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with new councils and appointments and

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it really impacts the the operations.

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So, I want to make sure that we're sort

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of setting this organization up as best

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we can to um

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to move. So, that would be that's the

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essence recommendation. I'll I can turn

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that into a motion, but I'd I'd um

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welcome any any questions on on this

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in advance of that. And there is a

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future touch point which we'll have in

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um that has some we've done a few

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administrative things as this this body

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of like executing some legal documents

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and and so on. There's uh an element of

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uh on the horizon as well, but I this

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one I wanted to make sure we had as much

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room as possible

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if we were to give this direction to

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uh that board.

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So, that's the CliffsNotes.

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this or yeah, Councillor Pennycook, we

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can get started.

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» So, is this a request of the board or

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direction to our appointed members of

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the board to bring forward something or

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or what is the specific

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it would be I think it at this point it

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would be that we write a

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chair of the board. So it's kind of six

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of one half dozen the other. The board

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sees this as a way to um this could be a

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way to make sure that the we have the

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appropriate skill sets around around the

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the table and that we get um

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and is is one piece. I think that as a

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council uh the best the best practices

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that is like a maximum of one and uh

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some would even argue that not have it

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keeping elected officials away from

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these these things is the best is the

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best course of action

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um as they are very community um based.

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either it's either or and um but I do

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think that having um

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getting down to that one elected

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official and having

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two others uh appointed to our that's

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our three seats that we have on that uh

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is appropriate. So that's what we're

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trying to get that's what I'm trying to

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» Sorry for my lack of uh are we then

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changing our

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District of Squamish appointment policy

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or we asking or directing

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the Community Forest Board to do

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something?

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» We're asking the Community Forest Board

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to to uh bring forward recommendations

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for council consideration. So our legal

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the founding documents of all this say

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that the members are appointed by

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council but doesn't speak to who those

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members are. So we in any of our other

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groups where we have seats we don't

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recruit like the housing society for

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instance. We appoint one member but the

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housing society does the rest. The the

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the board similarly we appoint one

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member uh or we appoint one elected

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official, but we actually appoint the

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board in that case. These things go

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together in different in different ways.

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And I've never seen None of these do we

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we as a council go to community and

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solicit applications for and so on.

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by the external and other They look

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after the appointments. In this case,

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they'd be making a recommendation more

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like the library board for council

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consideration. A council could take it

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or leave it at that point. That's going

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to be a decision for the next council,

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So, the board is made up of You said

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half Squamish Nation, half District of

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Squamish.

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you're proposing that the board

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put forward recommendations

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for the District of Squamish component.

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is also making recommendations on the

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components of the board.

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» Yes.

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short version of the answer. I'll go

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back a bit further.

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first partnership between the two

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organizations, uh the nation has um

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appointments, and I see them

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needing to sort of would benefit from

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alignment over time.

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have a process for the appointments,

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particularly external appointments to

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people that aren't council members to to

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this body. So, I think having the the

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body come up with a recruitment

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policy and figure out their needs and

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and um put forward recommendations to to

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council. The decision still lies with

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with council, but it's regardless of

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who's

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regardless of who the board is,

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um it's it's the board has um

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some additional uh capacity and knows

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their needs and uh and and so on.

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thought process there, but there is that

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piece where yes, folks um appointed by

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the Squamish Nation

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can uh have input into the the

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future appoint- appointees.

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think that's a neutral thing at this

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point, but you can have a positive or

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negative to that.

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» What's the fundamental purpose for

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having District of Squamish and Squamish

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committee. So, I'm

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a balancing of perspectives.

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and are we losing like

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the nation doesn't have a responsibility

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to find people who will represent the

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District of Squamish and the District of

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Squamish interests.

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how do those interests get

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processes, there'll the lessons learned.

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right down to it

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both partners have the ability to

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appoint

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equal members, three and three.

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Um who they are is up to the individ-

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individuals. We're just at the ask would

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be that um they would put forward some

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some recommendations for council to to

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take her or leave and

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that board does have

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some capacity to do that work that I

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don't see council

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doing in other cases and so it feels

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appropriate to me that they would do

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that. Now,

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perhaps over time, like I said, their

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their process can align these two

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processes can align, but right now they

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have an internal process that they do.

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I don't know, I can't speak to that.

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Um

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and then we don't really have a process

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except for council appointments that

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happen

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you know, annual- annually and

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it's time to have

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members of the community contribute to

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that to that board and to have um

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right now we're running with two

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appointments from the

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from us as myself and counselor

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counselor Greenlaw and

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um so one less elected official and two

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members from community

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if is what I think would be

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would be best and I think the best

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mechanism to do that is to ask the

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community forest board to bring forth

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some recommendations.

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I understand the duplication sort of

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piece with the nation appoint- uh

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appointees, but um

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it's not a

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it's very much a

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the board is rule- is um governed by

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um uh um consensus and it's been a very

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collaborative consensus space. It's not

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a really a versus um

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piece that way. So, but I

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That's why I I feel some comfort in in

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that.

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» Right. I and I'm not in any way implying

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that it is a a conflict or

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I'm imagining a process

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our policies and our processes

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should protect everybody in the event

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that individuals do get into those

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positions who do want to take advantage.

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And so,

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uh if that does occur, I want to make

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like

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the the construction of

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half nation and half Squamish

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that must have been intentional.

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Um and so, I'm

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I'm concerned that

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handing over recommendations to the

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board itself

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unless that's done

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equally

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with the nation and the district

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that we're creating an asymmetry where

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an asymmetry doesn't need to exist.

360
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» I think we're on the path to

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alignment, but I'll recognize asymmetry

362
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um at the at this point. Um

363
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so,

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I I tend to to

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agree those seats are always the

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language is appointed by.

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So, I

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could see a scenario where a qualified

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candidate is a Squamish Nation member,

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but is also

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votes in our local elections, a member

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of our community, may very well be the

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best candidate for one of the seats

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appointed by the District of Squamish.

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So, um

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I

377
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I get that it's that it's uh

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unprecedented, but we're sort of

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leading in this in this area, and I

380
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think we're going to find some spaces

381
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that are just have a little bit of um

382
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uh take a bit of um

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to wrap our mind our our collective

384
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minds around as we as we do that, but

385
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the um ultimately the control there is

386
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that

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council will have the

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makes the appointment. So, we're not

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handing over any any control. We're

390
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asking really for anything for asking

391
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for anything, it's a it's some capacity

392
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help to

393
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to do recruitment that will meet the

394
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needs of the of the board and bring

395
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forward some

396
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some recommendations um

397
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to uh to council.

398
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» Councilor Bingle.

399
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» So, if I can summarize or maybe just

400
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restate to make sure I understand,

401
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the proposal is that going forward,

402
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if all this is supported,

403
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um

404
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that Squamish Nation would retain three

405
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appointments, District of Squamish would

406
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retain three appointments.

407
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The District of Squamish at this point

408
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is asking the

409
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the uh Community Forest Board to provide

410
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recommendations for our three

411
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appointments. We may or may not agree to

412
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those and may appoint someone else or

413
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not, but we've just asked for that

414
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assistance. The Squamish Nation may

415
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choose sooner or later to follow a

416
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similar process. Um, so the only change

417
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here, the only new thing

418
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is is um we are asking for the board

419
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to give council

420
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some recommendations again, which we are

421
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not compelled to

422
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follow through on. And then, I think

423
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part of what you said is our practice

424
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has been to appoint two councilors sort

425
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of almost separate from this. We may

426
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decide to not appoint two councilors,

427
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but again, our appointments that that's

428
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at our discretion as a council.

429
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» Yeah, I generally agree with that. I

430
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think that um

431
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uh

432
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Yeah, I I think that the how the board

433
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interacts with

434
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the processes of both of its partners

435
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being the the district and the nation.

436
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Um

437
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you know, will be a little bit different

438
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to meet the requirements of each of each

439
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group. And if we take this step, um

440
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perhaps there can be a more

441
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you know, that to me this is a the first

442
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step into like that alignment. Maybe

443
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it's not the same process. Maybe for

444
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very good reasons

445
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there's another process of like, "Hey,

446
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identify your needs and we'll find you

447
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some folks." So, maybe that's the way

448
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the board can interact with the nation

449
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process.

450
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Um but um I think this is a is an

451
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important um

452
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important step and also um

453
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uh

454
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most most uh community forests have

455
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uh one or less elected officials and are

456
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built under the same structure that

457
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we're on on the board.

458
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So, that's

459
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that's um but that piece in and of

460
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itself, I think is a

461
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is um that's a bigger a bigger

462
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discussion if we want if I I'm not

463
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recommending that we step away from

464
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having elected official on the board.

465
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That'll be a discussion for as this uh

466
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entity has some more um

467
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uh

468
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more more more time to to mature and uh

469
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and it and evolve.

470
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But I think that um

471
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I know that we don't have the capa- I I

472
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haven't seen the capacity nor do I

473
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expect the capacity to emerge between

474
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here and uh the need to appoint some

475
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more board members

476
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uh to recruit them um

477
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uh effectively to meet the the board's

478
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the board's needs or the this entity's

479
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needs through the board.

480
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I'm going to go to

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Councillor Greenlaw.

482
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» Yeah, I just wanted to make a comment.

483
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Like my understanding of this is um

484
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this is to bring the district more into

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alignment with what the Squamish Nation

486
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is currently practicing, but also

487
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anybody who comes to the board has to be

488
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approved by the board.

489
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So, it's not

490
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» By council. By council.

491
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» Anybody who comes to Yeah. Yeah.

492
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» Yeah.

493
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So, my motion would be that the

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that council authorize the mayor to

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write a letter to the community forest

496
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inviting them to

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bring forward two recommendations for

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board seats

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for appointment

500
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in

501
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Q4.

502
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Second by Council by Council French. Do

503
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you have Do you have a question?

504
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» Well, possibly a friendly amendment

505
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would we say at least two or is it two?

506
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» Two.

507
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Two. So, I think I've spoken on this uh

508
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uh enough but I do think this is an

509
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important step. Um

510
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um forward and with with good governance

511
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uh of of the

512
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um of the community forest and working

513
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in a good way with um

514
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with the Squamish Nation. I think this

515
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is um

516
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a step towards having this entity really

517
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stand on its own properly on its own on

518
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its own two feet and um I know we have a

519
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lot of expertise in the community that

520
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we would benefit from uh harnessing uh

521
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to ensure the success of this important

522
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endeavor with our friends at the

523
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Squamish Nation.

524
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Um Council French.

525
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» Sorry, I I I just want to make sure I

526
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really understand this two number. I

527
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understand that we are thinking

528
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a point one elected going forward and

529
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two as recommended, but we do not or we

530
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would not want to have a a sort of four

531
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people recommended as all acceptable and

532
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we will pick only we will only pick two,

533
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but like or do we say no, you shall not

534
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give us more than two recommendations

535
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and we are going to

536
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pick only those two that you

537
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» Um, in other cases,

538
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um

539
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uh,

540
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you know, we've seen more than just the

541
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rec- the two that are recommended. Um,

542
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and this is a new process, so we'll have

543
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to we'll have to see, but I

544
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the number

545
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available is the total number available

546
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is three seats and uh, I'd like to see

547
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two recommendations and the other one

548
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stays open for

549
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,920
whoever the council of the day sees fit

550
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to to

551
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to appoint as elected official.

552
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And I also want to recognize that

553
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the next council might not accept these

554
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recommendations from the community

555
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forest, in which case they can

556
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:48,680
those are we're not

557
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committing the council to any particular

558
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,400
path, but I think they'd be ill-advised

559
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to not, um

560
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,720
consider these recommendations that

561
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should come from this process.

562
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Any other comments?

563
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Um seeing none, I'll call the question.

564
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All in favor?

565
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Any opposed?

566
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,160
Was that a Was that a favor hand or a

567
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comment hand, Counselor Greenlaw?

568
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» Favor hand. Favor hand.

569
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» Nice. Well done. Um

570
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motion carries unanimously. Thank you.

571
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Um, and just as a a foreshadow, there'll

572
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be some um

573
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,440
uh, in early September, there'll be um

574
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,240
uh,

575
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,880
another item on the on the Genoa and

576
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,800
Folsom um, sort of update from the

577
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:31,360
community forest on operations uh, so

578
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,520
far and um,

579
00:24:31,360 --> 00:24:34,880
hopefully strategic plan will be ready

580
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:37,200
to share at that point and and so on.

581
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:40,120
Um, so work is underway.

582
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:43,320
That's Thank you for um,

583
00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:44,360
for this. Um Counselor Hamilton, can I

584
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,120
help you?

585
00:24:44,360 --> 00:24:47,960
» Motion to terminate this meeting.

586
00:24:46,120 --> 00:24:49,800
» I'm going to second that, and but we're

587
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:52,640
all going to get two points because it's

588
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:55,200
been an epic. So, uh, all in favor?

589
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:58,000
Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank Thank

590
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,000
much, everybody.

591
00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:03,800
» It's a new record.

592
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,800
4 and 1/2 hours over.

593
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,320
» Don't tempt me.

594
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:12,080
And if you think of it as a multiplier,

595
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,080
I hope that's the