1 00:00:03,929 --> 00:00:05,949 [music] 2 00:00:13,679 --> 00:00:20,800 Okay, >> we'll call the meeting to order. St. 3 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:26,519 Almond's Town Select Board, September 8th. And we'll start with the Pledge of 4 00:00:23,519 --> 00:00:26,519 Allegiance. 5 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:39,680 United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation 6 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:42,680 indivisible with liberty and justice for all. 7 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:58,320 Okay, we'll start with the warrants. Uh Brian, you got big ones. general fund 8 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:03,879 warrant dated today, September 8th, 2026. Uh this large total here is 9 00:01:00,879 --> 00:01:03,879 $460,495.50. 10 00:01:04,799 --> 00:01:14,240 Uh items of note here, 180 almost 183,000 or 40% of the total is for the 11 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:21,600 St. Albins's free library. That's our annual town assessment. uh six a little 12 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:26,960 over 61,000 or 13% is to the Franklin County Clerk's Office for the town's 13 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:33,520 Franklin County tax assessment. Do we know is that semianual or is that the 14 00:01:29,439 --> 00:01:39,560 total for the year? That's the year. >> Yeah. Popping off. Oops. Gotcha. 15 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:39,560 » What do we get for that? 16 00:01:40,079 --> 00:01:44,520 when they when they come, we can ask them. 17 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:55,520 » Yep. >> And so based on population, 18 00:01:52,399 --> 00:01:58,520 we pay the most. >> Yeah. 19 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:08,720 » All right. A little over 57,000 or about 12% was to Compass Minerals America for 20 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:13,120 salt and sand uh for the winter. Little over 36,000 or 8% of the total is 21 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:19,760 Blue Cross Blue Shield for health insurance. uh almost 27,000 or about 6% 22 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:24,000 to various local organizations and charities including Northwest Access, 23 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:28,800 Martha's Kitchen, Agewell, Franklin County Senior Center, Franklin Grande 24 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:33,360 Bookmo, Lorie Sales, Tim's House, and seven others. 25 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:40,640 25,000 is to the St. Albins's Historical Museum. And just around $22,450 26 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:44,319 is for paving. Um the library assessment, the historical museum, the 27 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:49,360 Franklin County assessment, and the local organizations and charities was 28 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:53,920 just about $300,000 uh or about 64% of the total warrant 29 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:59,360 tonight. Uh the paving, salt, sand, and health insurance was about 115,000, 30 00:02:56,959 --> 00:03:03,440 another 25% of tonight's total warrant. So, uh those items make up the vast 31 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:07,760 majority, and that's why we have an extra large general fund warrant 32 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:12,599 tonight. I make a motion that we approve this general fund warrant in the amount 33 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,599 of $460,495. 34 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:20,000 » Okay, we got a motion. Is there a second? 35 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:25,920 » A second. >> Okay. Is there any more discussion on 36 00:03:22,319 --> 00:03:29,200 this? Okay. All those in favor? >> I 37 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:33,280 » opposed. >> You got the payroll, J? 38 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:39,200 » I do. All right. So, we have three payroll warrants this evening. Um, the 39 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:43,480 first one is dated August 14th, 2026, and that it's an amount of $27,489.89. 40 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:52,440 The second one is dated August 21st, 2026, and that was for $27,71849. 41 00:03:54,000 --> 00:04:03,879 And then the third payroll warrant is dated August 28th, 2026. And that one is 42 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,879 a little bit different. That's $47,34.31 43 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:12,400 and that includes the employee retirement reconciliation with the state 44 00:04:09,599 --> 00:04:15,680 of Vermont. And I would make a motion we approve these three warrants as 45 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:19,600 presented. >> There's a motion. Is there a second? 46 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:25,120 » A second it. >> Okay. Any more discussion on that? Uh 47 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:29,759 hearing none. All in favor? >> I opposed. 48 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:34,080 » All right. Who's next? What do you got? You got the 49 00:04:31,919 --> 00:04:39,600 » I can do mine. Um I have the warrant for the industrial 50 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:45,280 park. It's $48125. This is our monthly maintenance bill 51 00:04:42,479 --> 00:04:47,840 that we get. So I motion that we approve this. 52 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:52,000 » Okay. Second. >> Second. 53 00:04:49,840 --> 00:04:56,240 » Any discussion? All in favor? 54 00:04:53,120 --> 00:05:00,160 » I oppos. >> Okay. Who's an action? We got some. 55 00:04:58,479 --> 00:05:02,400 » I got another one. I got another one. I had two. 56 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,040 » We did them all. That's the only one we had. 57 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:09,680 » No, I have the storm water utility warrant. Um, so this is a little bit 58 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:13,759 larger than normal, but we'll explain. $216,000, 59 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:19,039 $841 with 18 cents. Um, this included um the 60 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:25,600 Elizabeth Street Culver replacement, which was a little over $200,000 along 61 00:05:21,759 --> 00:05:30,720 with the storm water um basins for the east and west side. and then Pleasant 62 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:35,440 View um storm water and then Oliver seed for some potter ditching with our total 63 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:40,560 of the 2168 foot 84118. 64 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:44,479 So I make a motion to approve this warrant. 65 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:48,560 » Okay. Is there a second? >> Second. 66 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:52,320 » Great. Um was that the total for Elizabeth Street? 67 00:05:51,039 --> 00:05:57,919 » Yeah. >> Yeah. Total contract items. 68 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:02,479 » Okay. Originally we were talking half a mill and 69 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:09,440 » we got we got the range the bid range is much wider so we have pretty good 70 00:06:07,039 --> 00:06:15,600 » I went up and looked at it and they must have just got done when I got there they 71 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:19,759 was all gone but the excavator was still warm so 72 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:24,240 they did a nice job >> they got too many big rocks because I 73 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:28,080 couldn't climb down in there >> they did a nice We'll substitute the 74 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:33,199 guard rail with the schedule. >> Yeah. 75 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:36,880 » Okay. Uh all in favor? 76 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:39,880 » I I >> I 77 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,240 What do we got? You got son Kathy. >> Nope. 78 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,560 » No, >> that's it. 79 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:52,560 » Yep. >> Light on this week. 80 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:56,840 » All right. Uh, next is the minutes from last meeting. 81 00:06:57,759 --> 00:07:05,240 » Any anybody find anything a miss? 82 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,960 » Look good. Make a motion we pass the minutes. 83 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:14,240 » Okay. >> Made it from our last meeting which was 84 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:17,919 August 7th, 2026. >> We have a motion and a second. 85 00:07:16,639 --> 00:07:23,759 » Second. >> Oh, you second. All those in favor? 86 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:29,800 » I. >> Next is 87 00:07:26,319 --> 00:07:29,800 public comment. 88 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,280 Everybody so quiet. 89 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:46,680 All right. No public comment. And now we got liquor control. 90 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,680 Uh 91 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:59,120 Motion to re uh recess the select board meeting and convene the liquor control 92 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:03,759 board. >> I'm just looking. 93 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:07,759 » Okay, I need a motion to uh >> uh 94 00:08:05,199 --> 00:08:13,599 » recess recess the select board meeting and uh reconvene as liquor control. 95 00:08:13,039 --> 00:08:16,639 » Don't know. >> So moved. 96 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:20,160 » Okay. Is there a second? Yeah. All right. All in favor? 97 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:26,160 » I >> All right, we have 98 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:32,399 three from Stewart's shops and the Vermont 99 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:36,479 grow shop. So these are 100 00:08:34,719 --> 00:08:39,919 three of them are tobacco, right? >> Correct. 101 00:08:37,039 --> 00:08:44,080 » Okay. And one is second class liquor >> for 102 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:48,200 » Stewart. Yeah. >> No violations. 103 00:08:44,959 --> 00:08:48,200 » No violations. 104 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:57,519 Okay. Need a motion to approve 105 00:08:54,399 --> 00:09:03,279 reads this liquor control license for three for Stewart shops and one for 106 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:07,040 Vermont for Child. >> So second. 107 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:11,200 » All right. Motion and second. Any more discussion? 108 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:14,200 Hearing none. All in favor? I >> I 109 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:22,080 » motion to Yeah. Um Yes. >> I come out more. 110 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:24,399 » No. >> Go ahead. 111 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:28,160 » To come out of uh >> Yep. 112 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:32,880 » control and get back to us. >> Yep. So moved. Second. 113 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,920 » Okay. All in favor? >> I 114 00:09:33,279 --> 00:09:42,480 » I >> Okay, we're back. 115 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:46,600 Next we have errors and emissions and that's you John. 116 00:09:47,519 --> 00:09:55,080 » Good evening. >> Good evening. 117 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:55,080 » This meeting is zipping right along. 118 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:06,399 » I'll stop then. Uh, I just have a few tonight um for you guys to review and 119 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:14,000 hopefully approve and I'll just go through them. Um, the first one is a 120 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:20,720 personal property parcel um that's no longer in St. Almond'stown A Venture 121 00:10:17,279 --> 00:10:27,160 Financial Services. I'm just asking to deact deactivate that. We sent them a 122 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,160 tax bill this year. 123 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:41,120 Second one is just a 0.2 acre uh parcel that I removed over on Doure 124 00:10:38,079 --> 00:10:45,200 Drive, but I or I I added it to the new owner, but I didn't remove it from the 125 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:50,880 parent parcel. So, we're kind of double dipping there. Um I'm just asking to 126 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:57,519 remove it from the parent parcel. Uh third one is uh Vermont Transcope. 127 00:10:54,800 --> 00:11:03,440 So, it's a telecommunications uh parcel that I'm not sure if you guys 128 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:09,279 know this, but but the state of Vermont now does all the valuations for 129 00:11:06,560 --> 00:11:14,640 telecommunications, all of the cell towers, utilities, all of that, all of 130 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:19,920 those parcels. So, we really don't have any say in that. So last year they had 131 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:25,360 me create a parcel for this parcel for 132 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:30,720 Vermont Transco and this year they wanted it removed. I didn't remove it. 133 00:11:27,519 --> 00:11:36,320 Um and we're double dipping on that one too because this value is now placed in 134 00:11:33,839 --> 00:11:41,920 another parcel. So that was a double dip. So I'm just asking to have that one 135 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:48,160 deactivated as well. Uh fourth one is the fourth and fifth 136 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:55,120 one are Stewarts. So they took over for Jelly as you know. Um the wrong values 137 00:11:51,120 --> 00:12:00,560 were entered for their two locations. Um can I ask you John how does the the 138 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:05,040 top three I mean the Vermont transfer one you and I talked about that and the 139 00:12:02,959 --> 00:12:09,600 other ones I definitely get. How how'd that happen with Stewarts because looks 140 00:12:06,959 --> 00:12:18,000 like it's over a million dollars and be a quarter. So, yeah, exactly. So, so um 141 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:23,040 personal property is self-reported. So, we don't go out and value anybody's 142 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:27,440 personal property. They just send us their return and that's what we enter 143 00:12:25,839 --> 00:12:35,839 into the um amount. So, um apparently I read 144 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:41,279 their return wrong and entered the 1 million when it was at 243,000. 145 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:45,120 So, but because it's self-reported, that's what they're saying. So, we 146 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:48,079 really don't have >> Does it relate to them just buying it 147 00:12:47,519 --> 00:12:50,079 this year? >> What's that? 148 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:54,399 » Does it relate to them just taking ownership of that this year? 149 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,760 » I would think so. Yeah. Because we never had 150 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,480 » I was just curious how that >> Yeah. 151 00:12:56,639 --> 00:13:03,680 » So, reporting these this personal property for Jollies, we never had a 152 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,959 you know, they never told us that we entered it wrong or whatnot, but and 153 00:13:05,519 --> 00:13:10,800 they all come differently, too. So they're they're they're all returns that 154 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:16,639 they do themselves. So sometimes they're very sometimes they use the there's a 155 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:20,000 form a PVR4004 form that's the state of Vermont. 156 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:24,399 Sometimes they use that, sometimes they don't. Sometimes they use their own 157 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:30,560 filing and it's can be a little harder to to go through and understand, but so 158 00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:35,680 that's what happened here. So >> because like I said, it's self it's 159 00:13:32,399 --> 00:13:41,279 self-reported. We don't really have much recourse there. 160 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:45,120 So, those are the two two uh stewarts. The last one is just another personal 161 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:51,200 property that was sent to the to the city and error. So, I'm just requesting 162 00:13:47,839 --> 00:13:58,200 to add that parcel and add the value to the 2026 list. So, that one's in our 163 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,200 favor. 164 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:08,880 And that is it. Okay. 165 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:15,040 So, you need a motion. >> You need a motion. And um I believe you 166 00:14:12,639 --> 00:14:18,160 have to vote on it because we need we need signatures. 167 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:21,360 » Yep. >> So, you need a motion to approve 168 00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:27,240 » to approve >> the uh errors in admissions directions. 169 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:30,800 » Y >> and then all everyone needs to sign. 170 00:14:29,519 --> 00:14:33,440 » Yep. So, >> okay. Is there a second? 171 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:37,440 » Second. >> All right. All in favor? 172 00:14:35,839 --> 00:14:41,120 » I >> opposed. 173 00:14:39,519 --> 00:14:44,800 So, where's the one I'm supposed to We're 174 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:49,519 supposed to sign that is >> should Does it look like this? Errors 175 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:52,720 and emissions on the back of it. >> It might be that one, Jack. Oh, yeah. 176 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:56,480 I'll have one. >> Yeah, it's right here. 177 00:14:53,839 --> 00:15:01,160 » Is it not? I didn't know if you had one on the 178 00:14:57,839 --> 00:15:01,160 side, but 179 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:11,639 Oh, there it is. >> All right. I thought that was just 180 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,639 something else. 181 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,959 » Okay. Sorry. 182 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,680 Sure. 183 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,320 » We just did. I think so. Did we We voted, right? 184 00:15:33,279 --> 00:15:36,800 » Did you? I was going to say, >> "Yeah, we voted." You did, right? I 185 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:41,519 » don't think so. >> Did we vote on that then? 186 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:44,680 » Oh, we did. >> We just 187 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:49,199 then So, 188 00:15:47,519 --> 00:15:55,040 » very optimistic. >> All in favor? 189 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:58,931 » All in favor? All in favor? Hi. >> I don't know. I don't think anybody even 190 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,951 did the rooms. [laughter] 191 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:04,360 » Thanks, Sean. 192 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:23,360 » Committee. >> Okay. reason. 193 00:16:19,519 --> 00:16:26,880 » So, we've been talking for a few months now about getting a parks and recck 194 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:30,480 committee going. One of the jobs they're going to be focusing on is obviously 195 00:16:28,639 --> 00:16:34,079 helping us with the stone house, but they're also going to be helping us with 196 00:16:31,759 --> 00:16:38,880 our bay park, our Cohen Park, our uh town forest, any kind of recreational 197 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:44,639 thought we could have in the town. Um, so they we formed a committee. Our very 198 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:48,320 own Chelsea Moharren is on it. Um, as well as what, five other members? I 199 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:52,720 think we're at six members now. >> And 200 00:16:49,839 --> 00:16:56,720 they got together pretty quickly, met, went over, looked at all three of our um 201 00:16:55,120 --> 00:17:02,079 our rules and procedure. We didn't really have like a rules and procedure 202 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:05,520 for it, so they um created one. Um they've looked at our ordinance and our 203 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:10,959 parks policy and made a few changes. So, we're just going to go over them so that 204 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:14,559 we can approve them and or make changes as you see fit. But, I think they've 205 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:20,400 done a really good job. Um what they're going to do is that they're looking at 206 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:22,400 our uh at our Bay Park. Um did they walk tonight? Is that who they went went over 207 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:24,880 there? >> Yeah, 208 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:28,319 » they walked over tonight and looked at Bay Park and they looked at some 209 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:31,440 improvements we're going to do. Um you can see later on we talk about Bay Park 210 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:35,440 stage. We're going to build a bay a stage in the park. Um we're going to do 211 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:38,160 any of the updates that we do to the stone house. They're going to have a say 212 00:17:36,559 --> 00:17:41,440 in. They're going to go through they're going to look through everything in the 213 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:45,280 park to the point where it's like do we need this grill here? should this park 214 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:48,880 bench go over here down to everything. So, it helps us get public input on how 215 00:17:47,679 --> 00:17:54,240 the park should look and what we should be doing with it. Um, and there's it 216 00:17:51,039 --> 00:17:58,480 seems like it's pretty uh motivated group that that work really hard because 217 00:17:56,080 --> 00:18:01,520 they got this back to us last week in time for this to be on the agenda. Um, 218 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:05,679 you know, because we don't have a recreation department. uh we we 219 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:09,919 outsource that to the city who does a great job with our with our kids and 220 00:18:07,919 --> 00:18:13,120 getting them uh recreational needs, but we still have recreational needs here 221 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:19,440 and they're going to help us with that. And in doing so, if you look at our um 222 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:22,480 this rules and procedure, um Megan, our director of community development, who 223 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:27,440 is next door with at the planning commission, so she's not here with us. 224 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:32,559 Um, but she put this together and then the committee looked looked this through 225 00:18:29,919 --> 00:18:37,200 basically up and down to find spelling errors and other things they want to do 226 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:41,679 make sure most of it is based on our current policies and procedures and and 227 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:45,919 ordinances and that kind of language. Um, but I'll read the first uh section 228 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:50,080 which is the mission just so we get an understanding what the mission is. 229 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:53,120 Mission of the town uh of St. State Almonds Parks and Recreation Committee 230 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:56,000 is to bring citizens together for stewardship, identify potential 231 00:18:54,799 --> 00:18:59,280 improvements and expansion of recreational opportunities in the town 232 00:18:57,679 --> 00:19:04,160 of St. Albins, collaborate with municipal staff, and support ongoing and 233 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:07,840 new recreational events and programs. advise town officials and appointed 234 00:19:05,679 --> 00:19:11,039 staff on community census related to recreational needs, including 235 00:19:09,039 --> 00:19:14,320 improvements or additions to facilities, and to provide updates on recreational 236 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:17,919 events and activities, and to assist in the implementation of activities, 237 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:22,160 including but not limited to being a sounding board for ideas for the public, 238 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:25,120 support for community members in relation to recreation, supporting the 239 00:19:23,679 --> 00:19:29,360 community development and public works departments in long-term planning, grant 240 00:19:27,039 --> 00:19:32,240 writing, and fundraising. Um, Chelsea, I don't know if there's anything else that 241 00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:36,640 I should add that was discussed. I wasn't able to make it. um to your first 242 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:40,320 meeting or your last meeting. But >> uh I think Megan did a really great job 243 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:42,240 pulling this together for our meeting. Great job. 244 00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:48,559 » So it's it's basically they're going to help tremendously with events and uh 245 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:53,520 making sure we make good decisions on should we put a fence here or should we 246 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:56,240 put a you know any like should the shed go here or should there like helps us 247 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:59,919 out tremendously so we're not just making um like Kevin and I aren't just 248 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:02,000 sitting over here saying Kevin Megan and I sitting over saying yeah that's what 249 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:06,880 we're going to do. We're going to do that. it's going to give us better 250 00:20:03,039 --> 00:20:10,160 input. Um, and so just the rest of it, section two is the meetings. It's 251 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:13,360 basically they're going to meet at least six times a year, but it sounded like 252 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:16,880 they wanted to, especially up front, get more in. They'll probably do six in the 253 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:20,240 next six months at least. >> Yeah. Our goal is to meet every other 254 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:23,840 week or twice a month right now just to kind of keep things going while the 255 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:27,600 weather's nice and see what we can do. I mean, the goal is to utilize that park 256 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,960 as much as we possibly can. >> Yeah. 257 00:20:27,919 --> 00:20:32,400 » I think going through and doing the walkthrough tonight was really helpful. 258 00:20:30,799 --> 00:20:33,840 Did you were you able to make that after this 259 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:37,840 » soccer game? >> I didn't stay for the soccer game, but 260 00:20:36,159 --> 00:20:42,799 yes, I went down. >> Um, so that's how that's and then the 261 00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:48,799 procedure like basically sections three, two, three, four, five through 10 is 262 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:53,280 basically how we've set up other ones. So meeting procedures, it's going to 263 00:20:51,039 --> 00:20:58,400 conduct it like open uh, you know, following Vermont open meeting law. Uh, 264 00:20:55,679 --> 00:21:04,080 section four is your membership terms. there will be five and minimum number of 265 00:21:01,919 --> 00:21:08,720 five, maximum of nine committee members. Um, and it just it lists out a couple of 266 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:14,320 terms and how we're going to stagger those. Um, and kind of the roles for 267 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:18,799 each person and even the town manager and vacancies. Um, it'll have officers 268 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:24,960 like a chair and vice chair and secretary. It has powers um section six 269 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:28,240 duties and powers town of state almonds authorized parks recreation recreation 270 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:32,320 committee to act as it with dealing recreational issues. Um and they can 271 00:21:30,799 --> 00:21:36,720 will be able to come to select board meetings um if we ask them to and they 272 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:42,559 can report to us on on things. Um and then section seven is reporting. Um 273 00:21:40,720 --> 00:21:48,240 they will have the same public meeting laws about posting it online and um 274 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:50,960 anytime they meet. um then they will be dealing with funds and donations. One of 275 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:59,520 the goals is they'll be raising money hopefully. Um so that money will go into 276 00:21:54,320 --> 00:22:04,240 our general fund unless um we figure out another special fund for that. But um we 277 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:08,960 have the setup so they can do either or. Um and then there there could be ad hoc 278 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:12,559 members who are not voting members but can still help out on events. They can 279 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:16,720 go and and have an input and they can still attend meetings. um they just 280 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:21,760 wouldn't be voting members. And finally, communications. Um they're 281 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:26,960 just limited to being able to speak on behalf of their own committee. Um 282 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,679 if it's not like the majority rules, so they shall speak on behalf of the 283 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:37,760 committee without prior vetting by the committee. Um they shall not sorry. So 284 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:41,520 that's the rules and procedures. Um they I think Megan did a great job with this 285 00:22:39,039 --> 00:22:48,159 and it kind of follows basic town meeting law. Um, any questions on that? 286 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:52,080 » Couple thought. Um, first of all, I like the mission statement. I was reading 287 00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:56,480 that's very um, it's got everything in there right that that we'd hope it could 288 00:22:53,760 --> 00:23:01,120 do. That's awesome. On in section four on D. I I just want to mention I like 289 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:05,840 that that if someone resigns a position, we can just I think 290 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:09,360 it's a great idea just to, you know, appoint the next person to fill that 291 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:16,080 position and just take the next term instead of uh, yep. Making them come 292 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:19,760 back. Um, on G, section 4G, um, I think we probably just strike the 293 00:23:18,159 --> 00:23:23,440 last part of that sentence. It just talks about committee members shall 294 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:26,720 adhere to the town of St. Almond's conflict of interest policy. I think we 295 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:31,120 should just put a period right there and stop instead of having most recently 296 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:34,080 adopted just so there's no confusion. >> Yeah. 297 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:38,240 » Um, let me see. I just And I there's one other just I don't say a typo, but 298 00:23:35,919 --> 00:23:43,360 something we can add a word. Um, if you've got it there, Casey, on seven, 299 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:45,919 page three, 7D says, "A representative from the 300 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:50,799 committee shall be available to meet with the select board at least 301 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:55,360 semianually or more." It should be often otherwise that document's great 302 00:23:53,919 --> 00:24:00,799 » or more often. >> Uh, we just we're we're los 303 00:23:58,159 --> 00:24:03,120 often in there. >> Otherwise, yeah, looks 304 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:07,760 » if the board's okay with those changes, we can amend this, but still vote on it 305 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:14,320 tonight. I think it's fine. Makes sense. 306 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:19,039 » I just want to make sure that, you know, we've had a lot of plans for 307 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:22,360 this part. It just drags on and nothing gets done. 308 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:29,799 And when we get like we're talking about having a roof inspection 309 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:34,600 and a new stage, 310 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:43,440 » I want to be able to move on that. >> So when it says that we can call it guys 311 00:24:41,679 --> 00:24:45,279 together and say we're going to do this, what do you think? 312 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,679 » So >> where do we got to leave? the f the 313 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:53,440 first two weeks that they've been that we've had this together, they've got 314 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:57,840 together and approved these three documents, which is faster than I think 315 00:24:56,159 --> 00:25:01,279 um a lot of boards that I've ever sat on have worked. Uh it seems like they're 316 00:24:59,679 --> 00:25:05,120 pretty motivated. I think we have some really good individuals that are serving 317 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:09,840 on this. And I think they're really excited about some things that we can 318 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:13,360 improve um in the town, not just in the Bay Park. I think in Cohen Park, I think 319 00:25:11,679 --> 00:25:18,320 Town Forest and any anywhere else they they see fit. I think they're pretty 320 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:20,240 excited. um and motivated that they want to 321 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:24,960 » Kevin already has the bid out for the stage, right? Like kind of the draft 322 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:28,600 plan. Is it out or is it just drafted? Right. 323 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,600 » Yeah, it's 324 00:25:28,799 --> 00:25:36,702 » No, go ahead. >> You want to you want to set up your too? 325 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,702 » Come on. [laughter] 326 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:43,120 » Sorry to call you out, Kevin, but I think you've done some great work, too. 327 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:50,000 » It's a good good update. So the stage we have, we're design build. So we put an 328 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:55,279 RFP out that says design us a stage and give us a price of what that stage would 329 00:25:51,679 --> 00:25:59,520 cost. And so we specified the size of the stage, the 330 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:03,840 » kind of you know the elevation has to be this high in case the park floods like 331 00:26:02,159 --> 00:26:08,720 it has to have a cover, it has to have wind protection. So we gave them the big 332 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:14,880 parameters and then we said give us your idea and and make sure that it fits the 333 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:19,039 historical character of the park. And so we're cross our fingers. It it's 334 00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:22,880 interesting approach. It's called design build. But if it works, we could get 335 00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:27,760 like three or four different proposals where three or four different ideas of 336 00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:32,400 what that stage might look like and we would rank the proposals ba parks and 337 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:37,840 recck would rank them based on the which ones they prefer. And then in a separate 338 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:42,720 a separate envelope would be the cost. So we would rank the ones parks and 339 00:26:40,159 --> 00:26:46,960 wreckwood and then the select board and the town manager would look at the cost 340 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:53,279 for those top three and prioritize what they think the the best value is to the 341 00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:57,679 town. And we shared that with the state historic preservation office. They've 342 00:26:54,960 --> 00:27:03,520 been kept in the loop about this new stage. And so it's obviously needed and 343 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:09,919 I think I you know we'll see what we get but we sent that RFP out to a number of 344 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:13,039 different architects and builders. So um it'll be really interesting to see what 345 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:18,640 we get but I think this was kind of an accelerated approach to try and get this 346 00:27:15,039 --> 00:27:23,440 stage ready for next year. And the way we specified it would be 347 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:28,559 public works would be responsible for everything from the ground down. So, we 348 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:33,679 would put in any concrete peers wherever they specify and then they would show up 349 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:37,279 and the stage would go up from from that point. 350 00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:38,400 » Um, any questions on that? >> So, 351 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:43,919 » yeah. >> If you had any takers yet, 352 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:47,440 » the bids are due October 8th. So, we're still we're still waiting for proposals. 353 00:27:45,679 --> 00:27:51,440 » It just like went out on one uh like last Friday, right? Like you just threw 354 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:55,440 them together. Yeah. And it's really good to know that they'll come in 355 00:27:53,200 --> 00:28:00,640 October 8th and hopefully they'll be ready to build in the spring. You have 356 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,600 you have the build on it till June 15th, I think. 357 00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:05,279 » Yep. >> Before Bay. 358 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:10,080 » Memorial. We said Memorial Day. The stage needs to be done by Memorial Day. 359 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:15,279 » And um it's I think that um I forgot what I was 360 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:19,039 going to say on that, but it's uh it's I think it's you can get things it'll 361 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:23,200 start moving um and we'll have a say. Well, everyone will be looking at it and 362 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:25,760 I think um being able to rank them in the way that he has it set up is going 363 00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:28,960 to be really >> a really cool process. 364 00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:34,640 » But I think that that board or committee is 365 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:38,640 advisory. >> Yes. 366 00:28:35,679 --> 00:28:40,799 » Ultimately, it's the select board. >> Yeah. 367 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,840 » Think under advisement, but >> Yeah. Yeah. 368 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:47,919 » So, so in section seven, funds and donations, any requests for funding of 369 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:51,600 recreation projects not already included in the town's annual budget must be 370 00:28:49,679 --> 00:28:55,440 presented to the select board. >> So, they they don't have they don't 371 00:28:53,679 --> 00:28:59,919 » they select option number three in the in the 372 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,720 » Well, that's why it falls back on to my office and select board. 373 00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:08,559 » It sounds like what they're going to do, right, is go through this uh fourpoint 374 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:12,559 uh scoring rubric that you have right. So they may not even look at the prices 375 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:16,399 what I'm the price. >> Yeah. So it doesn't So then we'll be 376 00:29:14,399 --> 00:29:18,960 like, "Wow, that one's really nice, but we can't afford the Cadillac this time. 377 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:23,600 We're going to go with the >> Yeah. And I think they're going to 378 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:27,600 select three that they to narrow it down for the select board for the town 379 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:32,559 manager's office to then weigh that overall value." Yeah. And it will be a 380 00:29:29,919 --> 00:29:37,039 good I think this is a good like step in a process of how we can do things using 381 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:41,200 this committee when we have things like this scale that they are ranking it and 382 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:44,880 they're helping our input um and they can get input from the community as well 383 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:48,240 um because we want to make sure we have a nice structure. I think it's what we 384 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:54,320 have right now has worked for us but it's just um bay docks with plywood and 385 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:58,080 a tent we rent from a kraken. So, um, it would be good to have something that's 386 00:29:56,799 --> 00:30:03,360 there. >> And Megan working on a a grant, a 387 00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:08,399 recreational grant. I forget who it's through, but it's we're going to take a 388 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:13,600 shot at that. I think it's a $25,000 grant that maybe goes towards the stage. 389 00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:18,960 So, we have three We have like four grants out right 390 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:26,720 now that are going to be interesting. So, then uh then the stairs. So, we're 391 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:32,480 submitting on another grant for $100,000 for the Lake Champlain Basin Access 392 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:35,640 Program, and that's the letter. So, that would be 393 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:45,679 replacing all the stairs. So, we would remove the existing stairs and put new 394 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:53,440 concrete stairs at four of the stairways and then the northern access would be an 395 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:57,600 ADA accessible beach access. Um, it would have been nice to get the ADA 396 00:30:55,039 --> 00:31:02,960 access closer to the stonehouse, but the the height, you know, Jack, the it's the 397 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:07,840 elevation differences and wave action, historical preservation. So, so that's a 398 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:12,000 compromise, but I think it's >> So, it's historical preservation going 399 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,760 to allow you to do cement. >> That was my question. 400 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,399 » I already got permission. >> Oh, wow. We did. 401 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:21,760 » Yeah. Yeah. So, they got they provided us permission to do that and we kind of 402 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:28,399 told them that this would be because I you think about it for if next year 403 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:31,919 we're doing steps the stage and and I'll touch on the roof in just a minute. I 404 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:37,840 think that would be some really good momentum for for this park. Um, so 405 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:40,960 fingers crossed, but even if we didn't get that grant, we're going to have the 406 00:31:39,679 --> 00:31:45,360 engineering, we're going to have the approvals, we're going to have the 407 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:49,120 permitting to do the stairs. We don't get the grant, maybe we need to make a 408 00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:53,760 town needs to make a decision whether or not just to go forward regardless. 409 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,720 » Now, did those guys start cleaning up 410 00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:00,399 instead? >> What's that? Those guys that work over 411 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:03,279 there, did they start cleaning up them steps? Were 412 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:08,559 » Yeah, we we Tori was out there we whacking last week and he he took the 413 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:10,159 vent track along the edge of the the stone wall. 414 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:14,159 » Yeah. >> Clean up the beach, Jenny. 415 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:17,600 » Yeah, he did. He took a pass, but it's still a little still a little green. 416 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:20,399 » Still a little green. >> Yeah. 417 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:23,919 » Yeah. >> Um 418 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:27,279 » looks better than it did two weeks ago. the day we didn't know. 419 00:32:26,159 --> 00:32:30,799 » He was a little bit mad. >> Anybody tried to go down in steps and 420 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:35,760 get tangled in the vines? >> Yeah. Yeah. 421 00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:40,000 » Um >> trees. 422 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:45,519 » Trees. We got a $50,000 grant. No match required to take down ash trees on 423 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:48,559 Dunsmore Road. And so >> we'll use it. 424 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:53,039 » We'll use it. So we got a we got a planning. We still have to go. It's a 425 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:57,120 Vtrans grant. It's a highway safety grant. We have to do the paperwork of 426 00:32:54,880 --> 00:33:00,960 getting it signed, but I had a tree company look at the trees we're planning 427 00:32:58,799 --> 00:33:03,279 on taking down right now. And it's about >> park. 428 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:06,559 » That's separate. >> That's separate. 429 00:33:04,399 --> 00:33:08,880 » Yeah. This is just this is just Dunmore Road. 430 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:13,919 » Yeah. And it's it's a highway safety grant. So the way we worded the 431 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:18,480 application was for rural road departures, which is a hot topic in 432 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:21,200 BRANS right now of cars going off and, you know, hitting trees. So that's how 433 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:28,559 we got the grant. I was kind of surprised we got it, but we'll we had uh 434 00:33:25,679 --> 00:33:33,279 save a tree go out last week and their initial planning level estimate was like 435 00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:38,399 38 grand of tree work just on Donsmore Road. Um so we'll use it or we'll use a 436 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:41,840 good portion of it and I'll take work off of our crew so that they can focus 437 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:47,120 on >> it's 50,000. If we don't use it all on 438 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:54,240 Dunar Road, we can use it somewhere else. I they in their award letter they 439 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:59,679 were like almost specifically said we couldn't like so I I think it would be a 440 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:03,360 we could I would try I would you know I don't want to leave money on the table 441 00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:08,000 » better take down a PA >> shouldn't be that hard all the power 442 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:10,960 lines are off the road just drop those things right on the road 443 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:13,760 » yeah there's some big ones too >> they're huge but there's not power lines 444 00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:17,599 and power lines ran >> yeah they go off with the field yeah 445 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:20,639 » both of them Yeah. Where are most of them? 446 00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:24,639 » Carol's gonna say Carol. >> Yeah. She'll probably be out there where 447 00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:27,919 the waters off. 448 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:31,760 » She likes retrieves or she used to be. >> Yeah. 449 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,079 » No, every time the wind blows, there's limbs 450 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,760 in the road. >> Yeah. 451 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:41,520 » Yeah. because we because like you said, we still have the 452 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,839 ones at um the bait to take care of, especially the 453 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,679 ones by the >> Yeah. 454 00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:49,119 » Um >> where the stage is going to go. 455 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:54,079 » We're gonna those are pretty much going to be either inhouse, probably a 456 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:59,760 combination of in-house and but yeah, we met Jack and I met with the state state 457 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:03,839 arborist essentially the the ash trees in the park are lost cause at this 458 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,920 point. So, >> somebody's going to do a branch on the 459 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,440 head. >> Yeah. So, we're just going to get rid of 460 00:35:07,359 --> 00:35:12,800 them this winter. We got a whole list of stuff to do at the park this winter. I 461 00:35:11,359 --> 00:35:18,240 don't know if we want to talk. There's another grant coming up in November. 462 00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:22,640 It's called the Paul Brun grant through the National Park Service through the 463 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:26,000 Preservation Trust of Vermont who we've been meeting with regularly on a 464 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:31,119 Stonehouse project. So, it's kind of nice that we're working with PTV and 465 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:35,359 they're the administrators of the grant telling us what we need to do to make 466 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:41,359 sure we're we have a strong application. So, that's $150,000 467 00:35:37,839 --> 00:35:45,280 and we would be looking at doing a roof project with the stone house for that 468 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:49,760 grant. And I think >> that's, you know, we're right now, we 469 00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:53,359 actually met, we could go, I don't know if we want to go deep into the stone 470 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:56,880 house right now, but we met with the architect last today to 471 00:35:55,359 --> 00:36:00,720 » to kind of really >> Yeah, we met with him and and 472 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,760 » because you threatened to go somewhere else. 473 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:07,520 » No, I mean, >> we just reached out and Yeah. 474 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:11,119 » And we had a good conversation today, I think. 475 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:15,520 » Yeah. Um they they have someone looking at he has someone looking at the roof on 476 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:19,280 September 14th and a mason hopefully the same day to look at that. 477 00:36:17,839 --> 00:36:24,000 » I think and this is the other thing with these grants is they sent 478 00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:28,640 uh they light a fire under you a little bit because you do have to submit by 479 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:31,440 November whatever. So >> and there's no Paul Brun grant next 480 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,119 year. >> Yeah. So they're not doing 481 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:38,400 » so we want to hit it this year to make sure we can get the grant. 482 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:41,280 » Yeah. because we would miss a year opportunity for it 483 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:47,119 » and then we would have to spend that money by the end of 2028. 484 00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:51,359 But hopefully we're spending it next year. 485 00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:54,760 » But there's a that's a lot lot >> lot in the air. 486 00:36:55,040 --> 00:37:03,440 » How many ash? >> I haven't 487 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,720 been counted something like 40 dead or dying. 488 00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:06,560 » Yeah. >> How many did you cut down a cohen? 489 00:37:05,839 --> 00:37:08,240 There's over there's >> 43 490 00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:14,000 » 43 in Cohen. >> Yeah. 491 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:17,599 And uh that's another update. We got um Yeah, there's there's a lot there's some 492 00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:22,079 larger ones too that I think we would have to have professional do. 493 00:37:19,359 --> 00:37:26,320 » Um we got around 30 comments on our replanting plan for Cohen Park. And so 494 00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:31,119 we're going to incorporate those. And then I think maybe within a couple weeks 495 00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:36,079 we could have our landscaper who's already under contract go out and start 496 00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:41,520 the planting on that. >> And they put a really cool like QR code 497 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:44,400 and a plan and we put it on a display down at Cohen Park for get people's 498 00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:46,880 feedback. And that's the what you say 29. Yeah. 499 00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:52,079 » resp respondence to it. We've done the same thing at um the Bay Park for people 500 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:55,599 to give feedback so we get it into comes into a form and we can look at it and 501 00:37:54,079 --> 00:37:59,440 we're going to be giving that data and information to parks and recck committee 502 00:37:57,839 --> 00:38:05,760 um and we're going to use it internally for our own um just anything from 503 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:08,240 suggestions to what they want out of that out of the park or the stone house. 504 00:38:07,359 --> 00:38:11,599 So >> yeah, you'll you'll see them now. 505 00:38:09,839 --> 00:38:17,599 There's a couple places we posted those QR codes so you can just like if if they 506 00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:23,520 want Well, if somebody posts something on that to our code, we get three of us 507 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:28,320 in town get a notification immediately. So, just try and be a little bit more 508 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:34,400 accessible. >> I think 509 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:38,720 » at Cohen Beach, is it possible to clean up along the edge? I know I talked to 510 00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:42,320 you about it before, Casey. Yeah. >> You know, where it's all tall weeds and 511 00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:46,240 everything is all grown up along the edges and stuff. I think it would just 512 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,960 if it was trimmed down it would look so much better than it does right now. It'd 513 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:53,280 be more inviting. >> Yeah. The 514 00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:55,760 » drops off to the beach. >> Yeah. 515 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:58,560 » Yeah. There's a lot of poison ivy in there. 516 00:38:56,720 --> 00:39:02,240 » It's a mess in there and stuff and even going down to get to the water. It's all 517 00:39:01,359 --> 00:39:05,119 growing up. >> Yeah. 518 00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:07,760 » You know, um and it's not really easy access to get down to the water. But 519 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,520 » yeah, >> um 520 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:15,920 » we were we were talking about that today, too. And I think that 521 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:19,560 um I might reach out. We were looking at this is a little bit 522 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:25,680 we might need permission to spray the poison ivy and I think we can get it 523 00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:29,440 even though it's that close to the lake because it's a public park and we don't 524 00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:34,160 want poison ivy in a public park. So I think that that I'm going to try and 525 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:38,960 push that and to see if I can get that resolved. But um I agree. Yeah, it does 526 00:39:37,359 --> 00:39:41,839 need to get cleaned up. I think the the poison ivy is what's 527 00:39:41,359 --> 00:39:45,520 causing >> a 528 00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:49,440 no everything. It just I mean everything 529 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:52,480 looks so nice and then you've got all the tall weeds like and stuff at the 530 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:57,440 » Yeah. >> You know that to go down. One thing the 531 00:39:54,560 --> 00:40:03,920 arborist was saying too is was while we're doing this replanting plan to to 532 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:09,920 now take a look at that shoreline and pick like one or two that we want to let 533 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:14,160 go. Like if there's a if there's a tree that's that's there on the shoreline 534 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:18,800 that even though we didn't plant it, we think it's going to turn into a you know 535 00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:23,680 a nice productive tree for the park. Maybe we pick a couple just to let them 536 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:27,040 grow and then clear the air out around them. 537 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:30,480 » Yeah, I know over by the playground too, there's a lot of sumac that was growing 538 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,520 up there. I don't know if that's been taken down. I didn't check. I was over 539 00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:39,280 there the other day and I didn't check to see but over it's like in a corner 540 00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:43,160 almost where the new the old road used to come through. 541 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,160 » Oh, 542 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:48,480 on on the shore. Well, it's like >> the old road 543 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:52,480 » where the old road used to. It's like on this side of where the old road used to 544 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:57,280 be. You know, it's like a corner. 545 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:59,440 » I'll take a look tomorrow. I know we did. 546 00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:01,839 » It doesn't take long for the sumac to grow up. 547 00:40:59,839 --> 00:41:06,800 » No, I know. Yeah. I also bring up the the gate. It's 548 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:10,240 taken longer than it should have. >> It's not up yet. 549 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:15,520 » It's up, but it's the, you know, >> not working on 550 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:21,680 » Yeah. is the, you know, unfortunate incident with our fencer and then the 551 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:26,880 gentleman we have the contract with crashed his zero turn, broke his arm and 552 00:41:24,319 --> 00:41:31,520 so he was the electrician and so he's juggling 553 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:38,720 his contractor's no longer available. he's hung up and so he's contracted with 554 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:42,800 Mberry Fence, but they're gonna come up, but I think they're treating his work as 555 00:41:41,119 --> 00:41:48,400 a second priority to their existing work. And so, it's been a challenging 556 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:54,800 situation to to navigate and I'm trying to be patient, understanding with with 557 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:58,560 everything that happened. But I think we like communicated that we want want this 558 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:02,800 thing done like >> so it's only been a year or more. 559 00:42:02,319 --> 00:42:07,040 » No, >> when we we approved it last 560 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,079 » I was here when we approved it. >> Yeah. 561 00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:10,960 » So >> but the gate went in basically all 562 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,760 summer. >> It has unfort Yeah. We they had two big 563 00:42:13,839 --> 00:42:20,000 incidents and we've been >> Kevin said we're trying to be patient 564 00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:24,400 and understanding especially with the first incident was 565 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:28,000 pretty pretty sad but >> he understands. He called me this 566 00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:30,319 morning to give me an update. He thought they were going to try and get there 567 00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:35,400 Saturday and then they didn't drive there Saturday. So, it's it's been 568 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:43,599 » And while we have Kevin here, um we're also 569 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:44,960 putting the speed sign in this week. >> Yeah. 570 00:42:43,839 --> 00:42:46,960 » Down here on Lake Road. >> Yeah. 571 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:51,520 » The one that was on Fairfax. >> Um we're getting the same one down here. 572 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:58,000 It took forever because state of Vermont required us to do a a study um a traffic 573 00:42:55,200 --> 00:43:00,720 study. NRPC did that for us and then we had to figure out where the best B they 574 00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:05,359 had to figure out to tell us where the best place for us to place it was and so 575 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:07,920 we're finally able to put it in this week. 576 00:43:05,839 --> 00:43:10,960 » So >> we're leaving the one in Fairfax. We had 577 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:15,280 this one. It was ready to go when we put the Fairfax Street up one up. But the 578 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:20,880 state of Vermont, if you take a look at how long it takes them to let us um get 579 00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:23,040 it in. So, I just wanted to update you all. Kevin's 580 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:27,599 here. >> Yeah. 581 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:30,480 And paving supposed to start next week. >> Paving will start next week. We've had 582 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:34,400 some calls people asking us about it, but they have to have it done by 583 00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:36,960 November. >> No, 584 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:40,720 » October. October 8. So, >> yeah. Yeah, 585 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:47,440 » they'll be flying. Next next couple of weeks will be construction season. 586 00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:49,200 » So our work's all done covers and stuff where you're paving. 587 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:54,560 » Yep. >> You're all ready to go. 588 00:43:50,480 --> 00:44:00,560 » All ready to go. Yep. Yep. All ready to go. Um and we got 589 00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:05,520 reimbured. We're getting reimbursed. I know Casey mentioned this earlier, but 590 00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:09,760 before we submitted our reimbursement, we actually got the next year's grant 591 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:14,880 for all the ditch work, and we rolled it all into one big reimbursement. So, we 592 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:19,280 get 34 grand back from the state for all the 593 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:25,200 all the work we did, stoing the ditches, replacing covers, uh French show. So, 594 00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:27,280 » good. >> Sounds good. 595 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,920 » Yeah. >> What else you got, kid? I think that's 596 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:34,960 it. >> He's been pretty busy. We've been 597 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:37,680 putting a lot on him. So, um, >> so if you don't have anything else, I 598 00:44:36,319 --> 00:44:41,839 mean, we skipped down and did town manager report. We can go back to the 599 00:44:39,359 --> 00:44:44,240 parks and rec committee stuff and >> I'm good. 600 00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:45,440 » You're good, Kevin. >> Thank you. 601 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:50,000 » Thanks. >> Thank you. 602 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:55,040 » Um, so thanks Kevin. Um, we appreciate the updates. He 603 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:59,200 he's usually on a lot of those stuff for us. So, he saves our butt on a lot of 604 00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:06,240 things. But, um, back to the parks. So, we have this um 605 00:45:03,359 --> 00:45:10,400 rules and rules of procedure. I don't know if you want to vote on them all at 606 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:15,440 once or you want to do one at a time. So, I can keep going and talk about the 607 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:19,200 uh parks ordinance. There's a small major updates on both the other the next 608 00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:21,680 two documents. Can we vote on that for making changes to the wording? 609 00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:23,280 » Yeah. >> Okay. 610 00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:26,720 » Yeah. If you want to change >> fairly minor, you say I think the motion 611 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,720 would be >> with, you know, I make I make a motion 612 00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:32,319 with the with the adjustments that Brian suggested. 613 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,160 » Yep. >> Yep. 614 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:39,440 » I think that'll be fine. >> Y I'll make a motion that we uh pass the 615 00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:44,319 Town of St. Alms Parks and Recreation Committee uh rules and procedure 616 00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:49,200 document with two changes. one on section 4 G where we're just striking 617 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:53,839 the last part of the sentence that starts with most recently adopted by the 618 00:45:51,760 --> 00:46:02,160 town of St. Select Board that can be deleted. Second one is section 7 619 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:07,119 D where it's just adding the word often after the word more or halfway through 620 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:12,880 that sentence. >> That works. 621 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:17,599 » Okay, motion and a second. for a second. 622 00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:19,119 » They're not falling asleep down that end, are we? 623 00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:22,319 » No. >> Okay, 624 00:46:19,839 --> 00:46:26,560 » we'll see. >> Quiet 625 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:30,160 nervous. Uh, I have a motion and a second. Any more discussion on the 626 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,640 changes? Hearing none. All in favor? 627 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:37,280 » I >> I 628 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:40,880 motion carried. What's the next one? >> Hey guys, so Casey, this one's in effect 629 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:43,839 now. This one will go that go into effect immediately. the only the second 630 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:50,880 one >> per our rules or laws um we have to uh 631 00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:54,160 allow 60 days for this one to go into effect. Couple minor changes. Yeah. 632 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:59,760 » Um if you look through >> just type right the the title title of 633 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:03,200 » so if you go to page it says three on the bottom right 634 00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:10,079 » section 6.1 >> it was written wrong at 6.21 6 635 00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:18,640 » 3.1 and it they just they made that correction to 6.1.2 to 6.1.3. 636 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:23,920 And then if you go to page five under 6.3.20, 637 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:28,160 um, it adds the word written. It needs a written permit. 638 00:47:25,359 --> 00:47:32,880 » Um, and then on the next one, 6.3.21, it's adding written as well. And I 639 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:35,440 believe there was a member, Chelsea, correct me if I'm wrong, there's a 640 00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:38,640 member that had read that and felt you guys felt like that was um, appropriate 641 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:43,920 to put there. >> Yeah. So, those are the only two changes 642 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:46,640 on that document, which seems pretty simple. Um, but they went through this 643 00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:49,520 because they want to make sure that they're going to be following our 644 00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:52,319 ordinances and they wanted to be familiar with the document that they're 645 00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:56,119 going to be following. So, um, those were just those two changes 646 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:03,280 » and this would require a vote and then you'd have to sign it as well if you do 647 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:09,720 approve it. >> There is a clean copy in that yellow 648 00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:09,720 folder. Y 649 00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:18,560 » signature page to the back. >> Can I ask a question for uh Chelsea? 650 00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:24,480 » Yeah. >> On section 7 7.4 651 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:28,319 I know why that's there because the uh town used to basically have a small 652 00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:33,440 marina so to speak, right? You could rent a duck slip, but that's no longer 653 00:48:31,359 --> 00:48:37,920 available. Yeah. Do you guys talk about if that's even needed in there anymore? 654 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:42,800 Well, it says removed, didn't it? >> Well, it just says the town does not 655 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:47,520 offer the rental of slips for boats. >> No, we really didn't discuss it. We 656 00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:51,920 Nobody We had just left it in there. >> I mean, doesn't matter anyway. 657 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:55,680 » Yeah, because we used to rent >> a long time ago. 658 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,200 » A lot of docks. We used to have more docks. 659 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:01,359 » Yeah. >> They used to float out here. 660 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:06,960 » People rented them and they tied their boats up. They take would come down and 661 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:12,319 stand in their boat and we'll fish you. >> Yep. Yep. That's what happened. 662 00:49:09,359 --> 00:49:17,359 » And lots of complaints and just a total nightmare. 663 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:24,640 » And so we just made stages and stuff out of the cops. 664 00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:26,559 What I did, did you get any? >> So 665 00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:29,599 » I don't know if we leave it in there because I mean there still is a dock 666 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:34,400 down there. We still want people tying off to that dock. Well, it just says 667 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:36,880 removable dock slipper. It holds the cement gear, right? 668 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:42,240 » Yeah. >> Well, that part's uh referenced in here, 669 00:49:39,599 --> 00:49:45,200 right? You can tie your boat up to that if you want risk 670 00:49:43,839 --> 00:49:50,720 » for a few hours. >> Yeah. No, I'm just saying it's uh it's 671 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:55,359 obviously referring to the removable dock slip that we used to have, but we 672 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:58,160 no longer have it. That's why I'm just >> wondering if we need to have it in. 673 00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:01,839 That's all. I mean, it says the town doesn't offer the rental slips for 674 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,800 boats. We could write a million things that it doesn't do, you know? 675 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:08,400 » Right. >> I I mean, doesn't matter if it's in 676 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:13,599 there or not. I just wonder if we need it. 677 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:18,400 » Yeah, that's 7.4 says removable rental. 678 00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:21,400 So that was going to be removed off remove. 679 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:26,280 That's no big deal. 680 00:50:28,319 --> 00:50:32,720 » Forbid. >> Yeah. Hockey practice at Lenny Park 681 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:36,880 starts in >> hockey practice. 682 00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:40,720 » Just had our first soccer game. I >> mean, we could take it out. We just 683 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:43,920 scratch it if we're not it's in not part anymore, right? 684 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:48,720 » If you want. Yeah, if you want to. >> Yes, I would take it out. it doesn't 685 00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:50,720 exist then >> right 686 00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:54,880 » the whole board feel that way I can cross it out right now and 687 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:57,880 » when we update it in there we can add that 688 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:12,720 » should we motion on that >> a motion and then a signature 689 00:51:09,839 --> 00:51:16,559 » yeah it looks good I think they uh their group did a great job so I'd make a 690 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:22,079 motion that we accept the town of St. Almond's municipal ordinance for town 691 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:28,960 parks changes which includes the retitling of under section 6.1. 692 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:35,920 It also included uh amending to add the word written in 6.3.20 693 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:44,440 and 6.3.21 before the word permit and then striking 694 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:44,440 section 7.4 4 695 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,760 » motion. Second. 696 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:56,960 » Okay. >> Any more discussion? All in favor? 697 00:51:54,160 --> 00:52:01,119 » I carried. 698 00:51:58,079 --> 00:52:05,599 » Now, that'll go it'll be um it'll enter into a 60-day appeal process per 699 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:13,200 statute. And I have to post a notice of adoption 700 00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:17,760 » as well. >> And then the last 701 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:21,280 » the last thing is our parks policy. Um they also went through there. There was 702 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:25,920 a couple questions they had couple changes. Um first one is right at the 703 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:31,839 beginning open and closing times. There seems to be a conflict of or a 704 00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:35,760 contradiction of it's open Memorial Day through Labor Day. But then it says 705 00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:39,200 shelters and restrooms are open on a seasonal basis. Town park shelters, 706 00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:42,640 restrooms shall be closed immediately following the first snowfall and shall 707 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:48,800 reopen in the following spring. We think it's a lot cleaner if we just erased um 708 00:52:46,079 --> 00:52:51,839 that second sentence that I just read. >> Um and just we're open Memorial Day 709 00:52:50,720 --> 00:52:56,319 through Labor Day. >> Let's ask you um what does it mean that 710 00:52:54,079 --> 00:53:02,800 the park is open? >> I think um to me it the way I interpret 711 00:52:59,839 --> 00:53:06,559 it is the Stonehouse is open. the the bathrooms are open and we have trash 712 00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:09,680 bins out, but we're also talking Kevin and I are talking about if we put the 713 00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:14,000 trash bins all in, does that just open up for more littering? So, but like I I 714 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:18,319 think cuz we leave it it's in it's in our ordinance that we leave um we leave 715 00:53:16,559 --> 00:53:23,520 the parking areas open for people to go ice fishing stuff and we plow that and 716 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:27,839 and we do the plowing around um the walking path. So, it's it's always open, 717 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:32,240 right? But when I consider open, I consider Cohen Park bathrooms and 718 00:53:30,720 --> 00:53:34,960 stonehouse bathrooms. That's basically what I that's how I can read it. 719 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:39,359 » That's what kind of why I was asking because to to me when I read this, it's 720 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:45,680 like town park shall be open to the public from that time during daylight 721 00:53:41,839 --> 00:53:49,520 hours. Period. Which makes me think like like right now no one should be allowed 722 00:53:47,359 --> 00:53:54,720 there, right? You know what I mean? I'm just wondering should we should we just 723 00:53:51,359 --> 00:54:00,079 specify that that the town park parks facilities will be open Memorial Day to 724 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:03,119 Labor Day during daylight. >> You know what that's actually a good 725 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:06,079 point because it does sound like we are closing the public. 726 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,720 » It sounds like it's closed >> which could lead them into trespassing 727 00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,559 battle, right? >> Yeah. 728 00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:18,000 » Today we were looking at the trees there was like seven or eight cars already 729 00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:20,319 there at 8:00 in the morning. people walking or anything. 730 00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:24,720 » Oh yeah, it's a great place to walk. >> It's It is that That's a really good 731 00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:27,760 path. Like it's 6 miles I think if you go all the way around. 732 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:35,839 » Is it longer than that? >> And it is a good exercise and people 733 00:54:31,599 --> 00:54:40,160 utilize it down here 365 days a year. Um but that is a good point. I mean it does 734 00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:43,920 sound like if we say if we can add in the word um facilities 735 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:49,839 » parks >> the town park facilities. Yep. 736 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:53,680 I mean, are they closed at dark? Like, are are people not supposed to be in 737 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:56,880 there at dark? Like, say at 11:00 at night, 738 00:54:54,160 --> 00:55:02,880 » we close we have um our our park staff goes in at at night. Um and they lock up 739 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:06,800 the doors and close all the >> But 740 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:10,240 it's okay for people to be walking. There's cars and on the side of it all 741 00:55:09,839 --> 00:55:12,319 the time. >> They're not They're not shutting the 742 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:16,319 gates >> at like they do at Killare, right? like 743 00:55:14,720 --> 00:55:17,680 those gates get shut at dusk. That doesn't happen 744 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,680 » right >> here. 745 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:25,040 » You're not supposed to spend the night and sleep there. 746 00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:29,359 » Um >> people do occasionally. 747 00:55:26,079 --> 00:55:34,240 » People do occasionally. Um we have had people trespass for being a disturbance 748 00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:40,720 that were living there. Um, so we've had those talks before with um the police 749 00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:46,079 department, but um I think maybe putting in the facilities because the town park 750 00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:50,720 is open and people are using it at a lot of lot of different hours. 751 00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:54,400 » Yes, I think that's how we facilities shall be open or buildings or 752 00:55:53,599 --> 00:55:56,880 whatever. >> There's border here, right? 753 00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:01,440 » Yep. >> They do they stay all winter or do they 754 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:05,200 » do they stay all winter? They I think they do. So that those are open 755 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:09,760 basically. >> Yeah. Yeah. So if you're in and not 756 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:14,799 they're not at Cohen, they're just at the Bay Park. Um so if you're at the Bay 757 00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:21,359 Park and you need something and it's after dark or before summer staff will 758 00:56:17,839 --> 00:56:26,400 get there in the morning at 7, um they sell the porter body. 759 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:29,520 » But I mean, do they pump them all winter or 760 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:33,760 » Yeah. Yeah. 761 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:41,000 » Yep. Um, who is it? Excavating. GE excavating. Is that who CE 762 00:56:36,799 --> 00:56:41,000 excavating does it for us? 763 00:56:41,359 --> 00:56:47,799 » We're having that conversation right now. 764 00:56:50,640 --> 00:57:02,400 I think she said we're not gates. Gates are another story 765 00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:06,160 there. There's a our next question if you wanted to. 766 00:57:03,839 --> 00:57:10,480 » Well, maybe this document can save until we come up with this because that is 767 00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:13,920 we're trying to figure out in dust to dawn what that really means. Um could 768 00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:19,119 mean different things to different people. 769 00:57:16,799 --> 00:57:23,359 » Another one of them gates over there. >> So, I was just going to say purpose of 770 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:27,040 having an electric gate. They don't close as many. 771 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:28,720 » Well, we were talking to them >> at 772 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:33,040 » one >> at the Bay Park. We did talk about that. 773 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:34,720 We didn't want to spend the money because we did get a quote for all 774 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,119 three. >> For now, see how 775 00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:42,880 » and we did one for we said we'll do Cohen right now and to see if that works 776 00:57:39,839 --> 00:57:48,240 and if we're going to do the other two. >> It's not working yet. Um 777 00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:52,799 » so if you don't close it anyways at the bay park, why spend the money on your 778 00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:56,240 gate? They should be shutting automatically. That's what Georgia Beach 779 00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:58,799 does. Like it shuts automatically and then 780 00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:04,440 » when you get close enough if you're in it, it'll automatically open but not let 781 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,440 anybody 782 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:16,000 » um in that paragraph too and again just as I was reading it too because I you 783 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:18,640 know you flow from the town parks and then it starts talking about the town 784 00:58:17,599 --> 00:58:25,440 forest. >> Maybe that's two paragraphs, right? like 785 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:29,359 Cohen and Bay Park are kind of one so to speak. I I don't know. And then just the 786 00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:34,240 town forest separate. I because it doesn't have facilities up there. 787 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:36,960 Correct. Like in the way that Bay Park does in Right. 788 00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:39,359 » Okay. >> So 789 00:58:37,359 --> 00:58:43,119 » I mean in opening and closing I'm trying to I'm just thinking my son just got his 790 00:58:41,359 --> 00:58:48,799 permit, right? 15 >> isn't it right? your lights half an was 791 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:53,040 it half an hour before sunrise and half an hour after sunset they your 792 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:57,520 headlights need to be on I mean because that's a way that's definitive 793 00:58:55,280 --> 00:59:00,520 » right instead of saying dusk and dawn sunset 794 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,440 » I'm just think I mean everyone's got your phone you can look and see what 795 00:59:05,599 --> 00:59:11,119 time the sun sets if we needed a definitive time right because dusk is 796 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:17,760 kind of subjective >> here ducks and stuff you very long time. 797 00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:21,119 » Yes. >> Is that also like half an hour after 50 798 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:25,119 minutes? >> Half hour before, half hour after 799 00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,520 sunrise. >> Sunrise and after sunset. 800 00:59:26,799 --> 00:59:31,440 » Yeah. >> Every day. 801 00:59:28,799 --> 00:59:37,280 » Every day in a couple minutes. Yeah. >> Nothing good usually happens after dark. 802 00:59:33,359 --> 00:59:40,720 So like that dusk or sunset is the >> Yeah. 803 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:43,280 » Be there. >> So do you want us to work? We can work 804 00:59:42,319 --> 00:59:46,720 on this policy better. >> Is that what you just mentioned though? 805 00:59:44,319 --> 00:59:49,760 I think you said Kevin, were you gonna look at it some more? 806 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:55,119 » I think we could. I think we could make this a little bit cleaner and use better 807 00:59:52,799 --> 00:59:59,680 language and come up with an actual policy where we're comfortable with what 808 00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:03,839 times we actually are open and closed. Um because sunset or what is it 809 01:00:02,319 --> 01:00:05,440 currently? Um 810 01:00:04,480 --> 01:00:09,359 » sunset work. So >> just says daylight. 811 01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:11,839 » Yeah, I think if you do sunrise daylight hours 812 01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:14,960 » definitive on what time Yeah. You said you're walk, 813 01:00:13,359 --> 01:00:16,640 » but we can we can work on this and we can vote on the other two and 814 01:00:16,319 --> 01:00:18,319 » Yeah. >> Yeah. 815 01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:21,359 » Well, you already voted on one >> and and there's you already voted on 816 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:24,480 both of them, right? Is there like is there because I don't want to I don't 817 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:28,160 want to have rules that we don't need to have written down. But is there a 818 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:32,079 problem with people being there like at 10 or 11 o'clock at night when they 819 01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:33,920 shouldn't be? If it's not a problem, you probably don't have to write anything. 820 01:00:33,359 --> 01:00:37,920 But >> I think in Cohen more so 821 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:40,799 » Yeah, Cohen. Well, >> we do get a lot of complaints. It's more 822 01:00:40,079 --> 01:00:43,760 out of the way >> at 10 o'clock at night. Like, yeah, 823 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:46,720 » what are they doing there at 10 o'clock at night? 824 01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:50,400 » That's what I'm wondering if because we could say the facilities are closed at 825 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:52,880 that time and then just have a flight at like 826 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:58,160 » got to be out of the park at 10, something like that. I I don't I don't 827 01:00:54,480 --> 01:01:02,319 know if it's need to be there. >> Now, again, do we have to be there at 10 828 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:06,319 and kick everyone out or is it more like if they're causing a problem, there's a 829 01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:11,119 rule, you have to leave. And like we have had complaints about people being 830 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:17,680 in the parking lot at Cohen and being loud after hours and you know we call 831 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:21,920 the cops but we'd rather them not be able to be in there. Um 832 01:01:19,839 --> 01:01:27,200 » and you know I hear that it's >> because the way this is written is that 833 01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:31,520 because we didn't realize that was just the facilities, right? Not not the park. 834 01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:35,200 That's why I'm saying if we just maybe specified Nope. the facilities are 835 01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:39,760 closed at whatever time the the buildings and the park itself. I don't 836 01:01:37,119 --> 01:01:43,040 know if it's the magic time is 10 or 9 or whatever. 837 01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:45,520 » We could put them both. >> I'm not sure. 838 01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,839 » Both at specific time, but the facilities are definitely 839 01:01:46,559 --> 01:01:49,680 » Don't we have a parks and recreation committee? 840 01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:53,040 » Yeah. >> And we can we can have them look at this 841 01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:56,000 closer. >> But were there other parts of the 842 01:01:54,559 --> 01:01:59,200 document, too? I mean, that first part was I I thought very important, but 843 01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:02,000 there was some other things they had too, right? 844 01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:05,040 » Yep. I think she'd stuff right on the applicate to um 845 01:02:04,319 --> 01:02:08,400 » not a big deal. >> Confirm a reservation at 846 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:11,920 » Yeah. So the other So that was just the beginning on the second page. There's 847 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:17,839 some changes on the confirmation of reservations. Um this just helps our our 848 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:21,599 staff with the reservations and how they um 849 01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:24,880 get the how people make the reservations. So it kind of cleans up. 850 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:30,960 It's I think this may have been a suggestion from Megan um on how to clean 851 01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:34,319 this up or maybe the parks committee did >> thought in practice. So this is already 852 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:37,920 going on, >> right? 853 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:42,400 » This the second item here under confirmation reservation. I think in 854 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:45,280 practice is kind of how we're handling it now. 855 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:46,480 » Yeah. And it's it's kind of just cleaning this up. 856 01:02:46,079 --> 01:02:51,359 » Yeah. >> To to them. Um, and then if you look 857 01:02:48,559 --> 01:02:56,799 down where it says fees, we have it says for groups of 25 persons 858 01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:58,880 or less and then groups of 25 persons or more. 859 01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:03,280 » We've we've pointed that out at a meet here before a few years ago. I remember 860 01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:06,960 bringing it up that just pick one. >> Yeah. So, we're picking one. We're 861 01:03:04,799 --> 01:03:11,599 saying 26 or more so that there's not that 20 that sweet 25 where they can 862 01:03:10,079 --> 01:03:16,240 » nitpick how much money they're going to spend. And then the final one is the 863 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:20,720 appeals. Um the the committee felt like 5 days was too quick. They want to give 864 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:24,079 them two weeks, 14 days. Um and then they'll be notified of the select 865 01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:29,520 board's decision via written decision that will be mailed USPS to the address 866 01:03:25,839 --> 01:03:31,760 provided. So they'll be able to just appeal it. 867 01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:35,280 » Yeah. Five days would be tough, right? If you needed to go to the select board, 868 01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:38,000 we'd have to have a special meeting to have an appeal on a 869 01:03:37,359 --> 01:03:40,799 » Yep. >> Okay. 870 01:03:38,559 --> 01:03:44,799 » And it helps someone appeal. It just it just gives everyone more time. So, those 871 01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:49,839 are those changes on there. But I, like I said, we should probably work on this 872 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:53,440 opening and closing times and actually work on what our process to the 873 01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:57,920 following, you know, going forward is going to be before we vote on it today, 874 01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:00,000 I would say. >> Would you think the parks and recck 875 01:03:59,039 --> 01:04:02,000 committee would be okay with that, Chelsea? 876 01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:06,319 » Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Because we'd have to change like the ball field. We decide 877 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:09,280 we're going to do sunset to sunrise closure. We'll have to change some 878 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:12,240 verbiage >> further down too. Yeah, we can 879 01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:16,480 definitely >> if there 880 01:04:15,039 --> 01:04:20,400 I mean you probably add that in, right? Unless it's a 881 01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:27,960 » desk, we can just change it. >> So like if somebody rents 882 01:04:23,839 --> 01:04:27,960 » for like a wedding 883 01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:31,720 or 884 01:04:32,079 --> 01:04:36,319 if you have a permit or prior authorization 885 01:04:34,559 --> 01:04:40,760 » usually that's they that doesn't well because we need to close it up because 886 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,319 That's usually 887 01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:07,599 » over by the well street light is what I think of. 888 01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:11,440 » Oh, the wellhouse light. Is there one? >> No, there's one bright light down there 889 01:05:09,039 --> 01:05:17,119 somewhere that I always encounter. >> It's up here. I'll drive by tonight. 890 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:21,039 » Oh, yeah. It'll be all >> Okay. So, you take care of this 891 01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,839 business. >> Yep. 892 01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:28,640 » And then we've already done the town manager report. So, we talked about the 893 01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:31,640 Bay Park stage and the grants. >> No. 894 01:05:32,319 --> 01:05:37,200 » Um, >> and we voted, right? We did vote on 895 01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:39,359 those previous two. >> Previous two and you guys signed. 896 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,640 » Yes. >> Okay. 897 01:05:39,839 --> 01:05:42,640 » There were votes. >> Thank you. 898 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:48,559 » Just want to make sure. >> Um, 899 01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:54,400 question for Kevin and Casey. We're cutting all these trees. 900 01:05:52,559 --> 01:05:59,039 Do we still do that wood for good business? 901 01:05:56,480 --> 01:06:05,839 Do you didn't want to use our salt shed this year because 902 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:09,920 um well first because we were uncertain about 903 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:14,079 um whether or not SH was going to be there 904 01:06:12,079 --> 01:06:21,880 launch. So we bring the command to provide that self for storage and then 905 01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,880 he also wasn't 906 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:29,839 » as far as counting all the trees and donating it to them. Well, that's what 907 01:06:29,359 --> 01:06:33,680 I'm talking about. >> That's how we met. Yeah. 908 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:39,839 » Years ago when we established that town forest 909 01:06:35,359 --> 01:06:45,200 and we had a logger go in and take out quite a bunch of high value trees. And 910 01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:50,319 then we had him with a skiitter and a tree top make some trails up there when 911 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:54,400 we were just this was just coming in. And we allow people to go up on the 912 01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:59,200 landing, you know, where the tops were and 913 01:06:56,319 --> 01:07:04,000 cut the wood. And I would think with the economic situation 914 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:10,240 this winter, if we could somehow have a pile of wood 915 01:07:08,079 --> 01:07:13,680 that's ash, it don't burn pretty good and you know somehow have it so people 916 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,839 could go down. >> Yeah. So what is happening with that 917 01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:22,160 wood? >> Yeah, that's hired hire 918 01:07:19,359 --> 01:07:24,079 a contractor. They just displayed it. >> They take it. 919 01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:30,559 » Yeah. So could we like have a certain amount 920 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:33,799 » like trees down and even 921 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:37,319 private res 922 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:44,720 like maybe that's >> well I I guess uh I was thinking more 923 01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:51,680 you would have it all cut up you know >> there's a fella well there's a fella 924 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:56,799 that I know who who supports a a local youth 925 01:07:54,160 --> 01:08:02,079 outfit in Johnson that works with troubled youth. And this guy cuts 926 01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:06,880 firewood and historically brought it there, but 927 01:08:04,319 --> 01:08:13,039 they've had some changes. So now he's he cuts fire guy's in his 70s and he cuts 928 01:08:09,599 --> 01:08:18,319 firewood, sells it, and gives and gives the the charity the money. It's like his 929 01:08:16,719 --> 01:08:24,080 his thing in life is to supply them with 930 01:08:20,719 --> 01:08:30,319 heat or money for heat and and so his whole gig is just getting free wood and 931 01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:34,960 turn it into heat for this uh youth outfit in Johnson. So that I mean I 932 01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:41,359 think there is some good things that could could be done. I I can't speak to 933 01:08:38,480 --> 01:08:46,640 the liability to the town, but you know, I I guess I guess it's 934 01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:50,159 going to get burnt somewhere if they I mean, I don't think the Well, those 935 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:53,920 those people that are taking the wood aren't aren't throwing it away. They're 936 01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:56,719 they're turning it into >> I don't know. 937 01:08:55,440 --> 01:09:01,759 » Ash burns good. >> You know, burn is good, but tree tree 938 01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:04,480 dumps all over where, you know, >> they just dump them 939 01:09:02,480 --> 01:09:07,520 » dump them over the bank to make stuff. I wouldn't do that, but that's 940 01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,679 » Well, somebody's got to cut it up. That's 941 01:09:08,159 --> 01:09:14,120 » Yeah. >> Where they run what they came through 942 01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:14,120 with chippers. 943 01:09:17,359 --> 01:09:24,480 » I can reach out the logistics of >> Yeah. 944 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:27,759 » I'd rather it be different or anything, >> right? 20, 945 01:09:26,480 --> 01:09:30,239 » right? >> End up just like the boats. 946 01:09:29,839 --> 01:09:33,708 » Yeah. >> Yeah. You have chainsaw fights in the 947 01:09:32,719 --> 01:09:35,728 shed. >> [laughter] 948 01:09:36,480 --> 01:09:45,839 » But no, I think if you could get a hold of him and see if he'd be interested. I 949 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:50,719 mean, the wood's going to be around. >> I think there's going to be some fairly 950 01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:55,520 desperate folks around this winter with the price of oil and everything else. 951 01:09:53,839 --> 01:10:00,560 » Yeah, it's crazy. >> Well, I know, but if Carol is still at 952 01:09:57,360 --> 01:10:04,640 the house, that's where she burns. You know, if the trees come down on her 953 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:09,199 where she is. >> Yeah. I would like to see those trees 954 01:10:07,440 --> 01:10:14,000 stuck in her backyard so they can just get cut off. 955 01:10:11,760 --> 01:10:16,000 » Yeah, they could. I mean, I if they're looking for places 956 01:10:14,800 --> 01:10:19,920 » available, but cut them up. >> My house is close. I I mean, I'll give 957 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:25,159 the wood away, but I hate to see it go away. 958 01:10:21,199 --> 01:10:25,159 » Yeah, we can send a letter 959 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,760 first. 960 01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:34,960 They walk the best and drop on the lawn. That's 961 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,640 » that's their responsibility. >> Yeah. 962 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:40,159 » Sometimes you do that. >> Yeah. You get 963 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:44,840 » drop on then they realize that they're 12 in late. 964 01:10:41,199 --> 01:10:44,840 » Now you got to cut it. 965 01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:51,040 » Interesting. >> Okay. 966 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:56,800 » Yep. >> That was that was 967 01:10:55,199 --> 01:11:02,159 um next select board meetings. Monday, 968 01:10:59,679 --> 01:11:11,000 September 21st and Monday, October 5th, 2026 at 5:30 969 01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:11,000 Cleveland. 970 01:11:11,199 --> 01:11:19,120 Oh, wait, wait, wait. Did we do this? We didn't do this. 971 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:24,760 » Oh, let's make sure we do that. You have two of them. 972 01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:24,760 » Excessive improvement project grant. 973 01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:33,360 » This is the one I got. I want to explain that to everybody. 974 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:36,480 » So that's the $100,000 lake access one, right? 975 01:11:34,239 --> 01:11:41,840 » The Patrick Lee Lake Champlain basin program. It's for um trying to find, you 976 01:11:39,679 --> 01:11:46,880 know, updated cotton. >> Um 977 01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:53,880 $100,000 for the stairs. Um and this is just saying we're looking for just a 978 01:11:48,239 --> 01:11:53,880 letter of support and letter supports. 979 01:11:54,880 --> 01:12:02,280 Yeah, I see you wrote me a nice letter. >> Yeah, good job. 980 01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:07,440 » Yes, >> we might want to find this one. 981 01:12:05,760 --> 01:12:11,560 » Patrick lady's not spelled right. >> And there's no comma in the 982 01:12:12,159 --> 01:12:19,360 » fix that very >> Oh, okay. 983 01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:22,360 should be um >> less 984 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:29,800 l >> says 985 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,800 L A 986 01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:36,600 » you got one right now. 987 01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:41,360 Let me get rid of them so I can we don't mess them up. 988 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:46,239 » Yeah, there's like three of them here for me. 989 01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:52,199 It's L E A Y >> here. I put the Y in there and I put a 990 01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:52,199 comma 991 01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:56,280 downation 992 01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:07,920 pretty >> Y. 993 01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:11,000 That's what I'm saying. It could be one of those. 994 01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:18,719 » Insurance. >> You don't know what I'm talking about. 995 01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:21,440 » But it's just that like the the Lake Champlain basin money. 996 01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:26,159 » Oh. Oh, yeah. >> They they always want you to write this 997 01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:30,239 quality assurance protocol, 998 01:13:28,239 --> 01:13:34,159 especially if you're near the water. >> Yeah. 999 01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:37,440 » And that thing is a pain in the rear. >> Yeah. 1000 01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:39,280 » It's super detailed. Do you wanna Do you want to read it? 1001 01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:42,960 » I've seen that thing all the time. I don't 1002 01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:46,000 » It's really um I mean it's speaking to us because it is 1003 01:13:44,719 --> 01:13:49,679 access to Lake Champlain. >> I It's just a whole another layer of 1004 01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:53,679 stuff that's got to be done to get to get So So the idea is they're going to 1005 01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:57,600 award that grant in whenever, but then the quiet falls about a year and a half 1006 01:13:55,440 --> 01:13:59,920 later. If you don't need it, then that's great. If you do need it, it slows down 1007 01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,280 prog. >> Yeah, 1008 01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:04,880 » that's all. >> Yep. 1009 01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:10,199 » I didn't know if that was going to require 1010 01:14:06,719 --> 01:14:10,199 I'm not sure. 1011 01:14:11,199 --> 01:14:19,040 » We can have some. >> Well, we wait for the money. [laughter] 1012 01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:22,480 » What's a little bit different? >> Everything's different. 1013 01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,480 » Cuz if you do it without the money, you just show. 1014 01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:26,640 » Yeah. They need the money. >> Some are just like, "No, you did it 1015 01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,880 without us." >> You know, 1016 01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:31,760 » they want to know we have some money backing up sometimes, but then they 1017 01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:33,760 don't want you to go ahead and start it without them. 1018 01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:35,600 » No, they're good. I mean, they've done a lot. 1019 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:38,960 » Some are okay. Some will give you you could pay back some like engineering and 1020 01:14:38,159 --> 01:14:43,120 and stuff like that. >> I've done a lot of work at places some 1021 01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:48,960 money over the years. >> Yeah. Um 1022 01:14:46,239 --> 01:14:52,480 » one other thing was >> Yep. 1023 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:55,280 » You got to get moving on this fire station. 1024 01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:59,920 » Yes, I have names and I'm reaching out to them. 1025 01:14:56,640 --> 01:15:06,080 » Thank you. Maybe you and couple selectman and Matt. 1026 01:15:03,440 --> 01:15:07,040 We got to get a consultant and get that started. 1027 01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:09,360 » Yep. >> Should just meet. 1028 01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:13,760 » Yeah. >> And get the ball rolling and bringing 1029 01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,880 the rest of them in after we have more information. 1030 01:15:14,480 --> 01:15:20,080 » Sure. >> So you you should set some meeting up. 1031 01:15:18,239 --> 01:15:28,199 » Yeah. I can send something out this week. Tomorrow we'll pick a date. 1032 01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:28,199 » That's just kind of not at all. 1033 01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:35,960 Yep. 1034 01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:41,440 » It's okay for me to sign. >> I think so. 1035 01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:45,280 » So, >> the city. 1036 01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:48,480 » Yeah. >> Was there anything else you were 1037 01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:54,000 supposed to sign in that packet? >> You guys want the 100 grand for free? 1038 01:15:52,239 --> 01:15:57,040 » Always. >> Absolutely. 1039 01:15:54,719 --> 01:16:01,040 » That she would Everybody, >> there was the ordinance. 1040 01:15:58,719 --> 01:16:03,440 » There was the errors in admissions and the letter of support. 1041 01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:07,360 » Signed. >> Sign all sign. 1042 01:16:04,480 --> 01:16:12,640 » Sign seal delivered. >> Sign. Signed. 1043 01:16:10,239 --> 01:16:15,440 » Perfect. Hate to chase you all down. >> I I have a question, Jack. Under other 1044 01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:17,199 business. >> Yeah. 1045 01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:19,920 » When are we going to start talking about budgets? So, 1046 01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:24,480 » so Oh, thank you for bringing that up. Actually, we will be soon. I'm going to 1047 01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:29,679 be meeting with our department heads to get going and then we will do our I 1048 01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:34,880 think the next step is get them ready to go have a meeting. 1049 01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:38,480 » Traditionally we start in October. >> Yeah. Right. 1050 01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:42,560 » Coming right up there's >> but Jack mentioned to me the other day 1051 01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:47,120 we can start earlier. we get everyone rolling on what we have and have our 1052 01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:51,440 department head start looking at budget what we're I already know a couple of 1053 01:16:49,199 --> 01:16:57,360 things that we're going to be on the hook for next year that we we didn't 1054 01:16:52,960 --> 01:17:00,080 really plan for yet um like it budget or that was pre pre-bought I believe with 1055 01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,560 ARPA money >> sure 1056 01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:06,719 » that didn't reflect so we're going to have to budget about $30,000 so there's 1057 01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:10,960 like some things where >> funny how that work 1058 01:17:07,679 --> 01:17:15,440 » 30,000 a year going forward that we have already pre-paid for that we're going to 1059 01:17:13,679 --> 01:17:18,960 have to start as a new expense. It's going to look like a new expense. 1060 01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:23,280 » I think one thing, Jack, we've uh however we all want to do it, right? In 1061 01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:27,199 the past, we've had it where we try to set aside one day in advance for all of 1062 01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:30,239 us to come in. >> Last year was November 5th. 1063 01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:33,920 » Yeah, you came in. >> Everyone else is up for that. It's a 1064 01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:37,040 good way to get it. Well, >> otherwise like an hour here, hour there, 1065 01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:40,320 » me and school >> when we start doing budget, but we 1066 01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:43,600 usually have one day where we're here most of the day and the department heads 1067 01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:46,480 coming in and uh >> we get we get breakfast and lunch for 1068 01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:49,880 everyone >> here for a while. 1069 01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:55,679 » That's why you mentioned the food. >> You get a politician to show up. I know 1070 01:17:54,000 --> 01:18:02,640 how it works. >> Last year it was from 1:30 to 4:30. 1071 01:17:59,199 --> 01:18:04,000 There's some people that actually pretty official. 1072 01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:07,760 » Yeah. >> Every half hour I think. 1073 01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:12,080 » Yep. Every half hour they come in. 1074 01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:16,640 » That's where zero >> zero idea 1075 01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:19,640 zero for next >> zero 1076 01:18:20,480 --> 01:18:25,520 comes in. >> So to answer your question 1077 01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:29,360 » and we need a drink and have >> no it's up in the air. It depends on 1078 01:18:27,679 --> 01:18:32,719 what the legislature does for buying down rates 1079 01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:36,719 » or if they choose not to or if their school consolidation actually saves 1080 01:18:34,239 --> 01:18:42,320 money. If there is school consolidation, >> there's a whole bunch of ifs in there. 1081 01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:46,560 Um and then we are also next June starting our 1082 01:18:45,440 --> 01:18:50,800 » preappraisal >> which won't go into effect until 1083 01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:55,120 she is >> FY 29, but it'll be 1084 01:18:54,480 --> 01:18:58,400 » Yeah. >> It'll be different. I'm not saying it'll 1085 01:18:57,199 --> 01:19:02,000 be different. >> Right. Reason I bring that up is because 1086 01:19:01,199 --> 01:19:04,719 » you didn't >> like what is 1087 01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:07,920 » if property taxes they've been increasing and we have a whole bunch of 1088 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,920 new expenses. I think we're going to have to start 1089 01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:16,000 » Tuesdays. >> Tuesdays or Fridays, Wednesdays, 1090 01:19:13,199 --> 01:19:18,239 we're eliminating charity work. Thursday is my 1091 01:19:16,480 --> 01:19:24,320 » that's going to be and that's not very favorable to say but I and with that as 1092 01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:29,600 a possibility but I mean >> I think we owe it to the nonprofits to 1093 01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:31,280 let them know as far ahead of time as we can. 1094 01:19:30,239 --> 01:19:33,360 » I can take that >> this is this is something we're going to 1095 01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:36,640 have to >> this is going to be tough and and we're 1096 01:19:35,199 --> 01:19:40,480 going to have to look at >> this local regional 1097 01:19:38,719 --> 01:19:45,760 » letter should go out saying you know we're entering a new budget season and 1098 01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:48,560 it's it might be dicey. um this local, regional, state organization bracket we 1099 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:51,600 have or >> yeah, they should all get something. 1100 01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:54,080 » This is we're it's going to be we're gonna have to talk about how we handle 1101 01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,640 that. That's going to be part of our discussions in the budget. 1102 01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:58,880 » I think that's a great suggestion, Jeff. Like, 1103 01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:05,360 » but what I'm saying is just give them a heads up that we are we are going to be 1104 01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:11,400 looking and they need to be aware. >> It'll kind of avoid the um in your 1105 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,400 housing 1106 01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:19,520 center, right? I mean I it's just my 1107 01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:23,600 » Well, we talked to about having some kind of discussion before we talk about, 1108 01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:27,920 you know, how we want it. >> Right. Right. I'm not saying I'm just 1109 01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:32,480 saying it could be on the table. People need to know in well in advance so they 1110 01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:37,520 can plan >> if that was going to happen. 1111 01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:43,679 » Yep. I contact those organizations so Casey and I can come up with a 1112 01:20:40,480 --> 01:20:47,679 uh a letter, email, whatever that states pretty much what Jeff just said. 1113 01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:53,320 » Hey, thank you, Jen. >> So, we need to we're just talking 1114 01:20:54,239 --> 01:21:00,880 you guys work during the day if we're going to have an all day budget session 1115 01:20:58,719 --> 01:21:03,600 which you know >> I'm in advance enough I can make 1116 01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:08,560 » right. Slow or so. >> I'm fine, too. I think it's I can take 1117 01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:11,800 time off. >> I came 1118 01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:17,000 on a set schedule. 1119 01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:25,199 » So, we try to be a couple weeks notice. You guys can plan. 1120 01:21:23,440 --> 01:21:28,400 » We'll look end of October, early November because that's what we did 1121 01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:30,960 November 5th last year. Well, >> if you want to do it beforehand, we can 1122 01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:34,080 go mid to >> I was thinking earlier. 1123 01:21:32,719 --> 01:21:35,679 » I would too just to get it going. >> Just to get it going. 1124 01:21:35,280 --> 01:21:41,199 » Okay. >> Because you're getting uh your 1125 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:46,400 department heads are getting their stuff in and in the past we've had the 1126 01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,280 department heads come in on that. >> Yeah, we did. 1127 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:52,080 » Yeah. >> And they'll explain it. And 1128 01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:57,920 » how soon do you want to do it? Could we do it after October 20th? 1129 01:21:55,199 --> 01:22:02,560 Is that too late? My availability is pretty limited before 1130 01:21:59,920 --> 01:22:07,920 then. But I mean, I'll make it work. Whatever 1131 01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:13,920 you guys decide. It's just >> that week October 9th. But 1132 01:22:11,199 --> 01:22:16,239 » just know it's already September 8th. >> Yeah, I know. 1133 01:22:14,480 --> 01:22:21,040 » And we're planning we're planning things out o next meeting the 21st and October 1134 01:22:18,719 --> 01:22:25,600 5th. So we're it's coming fast. >> Yeah, we're two meetings away. Yeah. 1135 01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:31,520 Whatever you Whatever you want to do, Jack. I just I'm I've got 1136 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:35,440 » just seems like, you know, we'll get up against Houston. 1137 01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:38,400 » Yeah. So, why don't I I can start getting the ball rolling with my I've 1138 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:42,639 already alerted my my team that we're going to be talking about this soon and 1139 01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:46,320 then we'll get that ball rolling. I'll reach out. We'll be in communication 1140 01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:50,639 about availability for dates so that we have pl ample time to to plan for it and 1141 01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:54,639 have everyone ready for it. >> Throw out a couple. 1142 01:22:51,760 --> 01:23:00,560 » Yep. We get up against it and then sometimes go to make snap decisions. 1143 01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:05,280 » Well, then we start select board start at 6:30. We're starting at five. 1144 01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:08,400 » Yeah. At five or spend an hour and a half on budget. 1145 01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:13,040 » No, I'd rather bang it all out in a big chunk or as much as both, you know, 1146 01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:15,040 » as much as we can. I don't mind doing the big chunk. 1147 01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:19,199 » But has it been less of it? >> Yeah. 1148 01:23:16,480 --> 01:23:22,320 » Okay. All right. I'm good. >> Yeah. Thanks for bringing that up 1149 01:23:20,239 --> 01:23:25,040 because I did have it in my notes to talk about it. Let me see if I have 1150 01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:31,199 anything else. Yeah, >> one more thing about the schedule. Um, 1151 01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:37,760 you all have your training next Monday at six o'clock with VLCT. 1152 01:23:35,199 --> 01:23:40,800 » How long you got going on? >> An hour and a half. 1153 01:23:38,639 --> 01:23:44,480 » Hour, hour and a half. >> So, what we uh what are we supposed to 1154 01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:50,000 feature? >> Everything. All of our knowledge. 1155 01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:52,320 Uh, what about the town fair? When's that going? 1156 01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:55,520 » Saturday, right? >> Is it all weekend? 1157 01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:57,600 » Town fair. >> Oh, Renaissance fair. It's this 1158 01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:59,760 Saturday. >> The BLC thing. 1159 01:23:59,199 --> 01:24:04,960 » Oh. >> Oh. Oh. Oh. I have a bunch that are in 1160 01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:08,960 my calendar that I' I'm going to. Is it October 8th? Maybe. 1161 01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:14,320 » Does anybody >> I will send it I will send out all that 1162 01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:18,000 stuff to to everyone too. BLCT. >> There was like an early sign up or 1163 01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:21,679 something. Yeah, 1164 01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:25,600 » you never know. And I I've been to it a few times. 1165 01:24:23,679 --> 01:24:31,280 Uh I don't know if any of you guys are interested in going. 1166 01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:33,679 Well, basically everyone all over the state is there. 1167 01:24:32,480 --> 01:24:34,719 » That's the one that's in South Burlington. 1168 01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:40,480 » Yeah, >> that's October 8th. I think the 7th is 1169 01:24:38,239 --> 01:24:43,199 they have like a a virtual thing and or a dinner at Waterworks. But I'll send 1170 01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:47,199 this out. >> I'll send this out to the board. They 1171 01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:50,639 have a bunch like boost and stuff. >> Yep. I think that's the one. 1172 01:24:48,880 --> 01:24:55,679 » Don't they have like the skids deer rodeo and the snow plow the lean 1173 01:24:53,679 --> 01:24:57,440 business for the road people? >> I think so. 1174 01:24:56,560 --> 01:25:00,639 » Yeah. >> I never been to one, but I think that's 1175 01:24:59,199 --> 01:25:02,639 what you're referring to. >> Yeah, 1176 01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:04,080 » that's exactly what it is. >> Okay. 1177 01:25:03,199 --> 01:25:06,719 » Yeah. >> Um 1178 01:25:04,639 --> 01:25:14,080 » do a few. They're kind of fun. >> Yep. That's the 7th of October. There's 1179 01:25:10,480 --> 01:25:18,159 a couple other ones coming up, but um uh one more thing, 1180 01:25:16,480 --> 01:25:21,760 roadway signs, you asked about it last time, this four feet, keep your 1181 01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:25,920 distance. Kevin did some research on those. That law that went into place in 1182 01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:28,480 2024 where you got like some towns, I think 1183 01:25:27,679 --> 01:25:31,040 it's >> not. 1184 01:25:29,120 --> 01:25:36,080 » It's not mandatory. We can put them up. We can invest in the signs and put them 1185 01:25:32,719 --> 01:25:41,800 up if we want to. Um >> just Yeah. 1186 01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:41,800 Now 1187 01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:49,360 look and 1188 01:25:47,600 --> 01:25:55,199 there's one down in the 1189 01:25:53,760 --> 01:26:01,040 maintain for that's the rule there's like an mandated to do it. Um 1190 01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:02,880 » it might be nice just to put a few like especially in the bomb shore where the 1191 01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:07,920 biker >> right we think some places where we can 1192 01:26:04,480 --> 01:26:11,360 think of hight traffic areas. So, something we can think about for 1193 01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:16,960 next summer. >> Yeah, we'll put them up to the snow. 1194 01:26:15,040 --> 01:26:21,159 » Seriously, >> we're getting into mailbox season. 1195 01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:28,960 » Okay. Uh I guess that's it. We had a proposed executive session. 1196 01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:34,960 There's some new law says we can't do that. So, uh without uh laying all our 1197 01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:41,080 cards on the table, so we'll skip that for tonight. 1198 01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:41,080 Yes. 1199 01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:52,120 » I'll move second. All >> in favor? 1200 01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:52,120 » I motion carries. We are a journey.