1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:03,080 Welcome. Welcome, everyone. This is the st. Charles parish planning board of commissioners Meeting for august 7th, 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:09,000 2025. If you please silence all devices for the duration of the proceeding. 3 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:14,840 at this time, we'll stand for a moment of silence, Followed by the pledge of allegiance. 4 00:00:37,004 --> 00:00:37,004 allegiance] so thanks for everyone 5 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:46,960 in attendance. We do have a large audience. Just to remind everyone, If you're not familiar with the procedures if you do come up and provide public comment 6 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,600 when the public hearing is open, you will have three minutes. And you have one chance to speak, so you cannot approach the podium. 7 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:03,120 if you are planning to speak for more than one person, Just let us know beforehand and we will give you a bit more time. 8 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,000 also, we do have one commissioner in absence. It does take four yays for each item to pass. 9 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:18,120 first on the agenda we have 2025-6-hop. Requested by karen liakos for home occupation. 10 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:25,400 blooms of norco, 500 barreca street. Council district 6. 11 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:30,640 this request comes before the planning commission due to requiring a floral dealer License, 12 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:35,800 which blooms of norco does possess. The applicant states the business will be delivery Based and customers will not visit the residence. 13 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:42,600 no complaints or violations are on file and no code violations were apparent during a site Visit. 14 00:01:47,320 --> 00:01:49,920 the department recommends approval. Thank you. And is the applicant present, do you wish to add anything? 15 00:01:54,287 --> 00:01:54,287 no. Thank you. At this time, we're going to open the public hearing for 2025-6-hop. 16 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:01,600 anyone with questions, comments, or would like to speak either for or against if you'd Please approach the podium. 17 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,280 and if you'd please state your name and address for the record, Please. My name is chelsea duplantis. I live at 510 barreca street, Norco, louisiana. 18 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:26,280 I'm their neighbor. I know y'all said that. They said it's delivery based and all that. 19 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:31,960 I just want to make sure that that is, it is delivery based because I have concerns about The parking situation. 20 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:38,720 our street is narrow, and they already have a lot of cars parked on our street. 21 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,440 I also have two little girls. Sorry. I'm nervous. That's okay. I also have two little girls that like to play outside in our yard. 22 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:50,040 so, like I have, you know, worry about excess traffic. 23 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:54,600 more people in the area. We also have a bus that comes down the street twice a day to pick Them up. 24 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:01,040 and it already has trouble coming up and down the street with all the cars parked. 25 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:05,880 you know, at their household. So I was just concerned about the the excess traffic in the Parking situation. 26 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:11,800 yeah, and it shouldn't be. So it's delivery based business from her residents to Customers. 27 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,200 there are no customers that would be visiting the residents. Right. So shouldn't have any traffic. This is a home occupation permit. 28 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:24,280 so if that were to start happening outside of the permit, There are ways that planning and zoning can address that and withdraw the home occupation. 29 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,760 okay. So if I have any further concerns, I can address it with planning and zoning. Yes. Okay. All right. Thank y'all. Thank you. 30 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:40,200 anyone else? Yes. If you please approach the podium. 31 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:51,000 and if you can, please state your name and address for the record, Please. My name is carol patterson. 32 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:56,080 I live at 811 5th street. I'm on the corner of fifth and barreca. 33 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:02,120 I live directly across the street from 500 barreca. 34 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:07,280 okay. Okay. I've lived there for over 30 years on my home and mental resident there for Over 30 years. 35 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:17,360 first of all, when I got the letter, it states in the letter that they are, That she is a property owner. 36 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,200 and to the best of my knowledge, it's a rental property. It's not a homeowner property. That would be the first point I'd like to make. 37 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:35,040 I would think that would make a huge difference in whether you get a permit to be in a Neighborhood. 38 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:41,640 and secondly again, to the best of my knowledge, We are zoned as a residential area, not 39 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:51,600 a commercial area. And once you allow one business in, Then other businesses are going to be able to come in as well. 40 00:05:00,590 --> 00:05:00,590 and I'm opposed to that because we have a lot of congestion in our neighborhood, Especially during school season, 41 00:05:08,550 --> 00:05:11,590 with school busses, children being in the street. And as my neighbor across the way stated long ago, We have children that play out and we don't want to be worried about people, 42 00:05:20,990 --> 00:05:20,990 you know, parking and cars coming, delivery trucks or whatever it is. 43 00:05:25,270 --> 00:05:29,190 I'm not sure exactly what they're going to do other than open a business. If you have flowers, you've got to have somebody come in. 44 00:05:32,470 --> 00:05:32,470 so there's going to be people in and out from time to time, And they already park on our property side. 45 00:05:40,030 --> 00:05:40,030 my concern is safety issues, not only for my property, But other people's property as well, 46 00:05:46,870 --> 00:05:46,870 because when they're getting out, if they have an accident on my property, Then I'm liable for that. 47 00:05:52,230 --> 00:05:52,230 and so I know that they're going to part because they already do. 48 00:05:56,910 --> 00:05:56,910 and so that's, they, those are my issues as a safety issue. 49 00:06:02,030 --> 00:06:02,030 and also the fact that we are zoned to be a residential area and not a commercial area, And I'm opposed to a business coming in, 50 00:06:11,110 --> 00:06:11,110 even if it is in-house, because when that happens, Then it opens the door for other businesses. 51 00:06:17,830 --> 00:06:20,830 thank you for hearing me and I am opposed to it. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? This is the public hearing for 2020 52 00:06:30,190 --> 00:06:30,190 5-6 shop. Okay. At this time, we'll close the public hearing. 53 00:06:38,390 --> 00:06:38,390 applicant. Since you're here, anything you want to add? 54 00:06:43,350 --> 00:06:43,350 if you do, you need to if you wouldn't mind approaching the podium. 55 00:06:57,190 --> 00:06:57,190 yeah. We're recording, so we need to catch you on the mic. So if you state your name and Address for the record, please. That's okay. I'm karen liakos and I live at 500 barreca 56 00:07:04,990 --> 00:07:04,990 street, and I own blooms of norco, which was currently on 31 apple. 57 00:07:10,430 --> 00:07:10,430 I did want to downsize to a home base because I do deliveries only most. 58 00:07:15,590 --> 00:07:15,590 I mean, 70% of my business is wire orders, so I don't really have. 59 00:07:21,230 --> 00:07:21,230 and so for me, it's just better to work from home and have no. 60 00:07:25,990 --> 00:07:25,990 it'll be deliveries only. And as far as like flowers being picked up, I go and I will personally go to wherever I need to go to pick up my flowers and bring 61 00:07:33,710 --> 00:07:36,990 them back. There will be no traffic except for my vehicle. Okay. Thank you. Any questions for miss karen from commissioners? 62 00:07:46,270 --> 00:07:46,270 at this point, do I have a motion to consider 2025-6-hop. 63 00:07:53,150 --> 00:07:53,150 motion by mr. Price. Second by mrs. Ross. 64 00:08:09,150 --> 00:08:09,150 and that passes unanimously. Next on the agenda we have 2025-11-min. 65 00:08:16,070 --> 00:08:16,070 requested by cyril & gina favaloro for subdivision of one lot into two, 113 verdin lane, paradis. 66 00:08:24,150 --> 00:08:24,150 zoning district r-1a(m). Council district 4. The applicant request for subdivision of lot X into two lots x1 and x2. 67 00:08:33,430 --> 00:08:33,430 both lots meet the minimum 5000 square foot area and 50 foot width required under r-1a(m) Zoning. 68 00:08:39,950 --> 00:08:39,950 improvements shown on proposed plot x1 would also meet required setbacks. 69 00:08:45,070 --> 00:08:48,950 geometric standards are not met. Specifically item iii.b.3. Arrangement, which states. All laws shall possess frontage on a street or roadway that Meets the specifications of these regulations. 70 00:08:55,870 --> 00:08:55,870 lot x is currently landlocked, a result of the 2006 subdivision. 71 00:09:00,230 --> 00:09:00,230 by subdividing lot x further into lots x1 and x2, An additional landlocked lot is created, 72 00:09:07,550 --> 00:09:10,510 increasing the extent of the existing deficiency. Verdin lane is used for access to lot x from wisner street, An arrangement established with the 2006 resubdivision, 73 00:09:18,430 --> 00:09:18,430 but verdin lane is a private drive and cannot be considered a street or roadway that meets The specifications of the subdivision regulations. 74 00:09:25,070 --> 00:09:25,070 it cannot be considered legal frontage and does not allow for the arrangement requirement To be met. The applicant submitted a request for a waiver from the arrangement 75 00:09:32,310 --> 00:09:32,310 requirement. The department cannot support the waiver and endorse the creation of an Additional landlocked lot. 76 00:09:37,830 --> 00:09:37,830 lot x, along with the adjacent lots w and y, Are under common ownership, allowing for the possibility to reconfigure the existing 77 00:09:44,750 --> 00:09:48,470 arrangement and create multiple lots with legitimate street frontage. Department recommends denial. Thank you. Is the applicant present? 78 00:09:54,630 --> 00:09:54,630 you wish to speak? Oh, no. I'm just trying to separate it. 79 00:10:03,110 --> 00:10:03,110 if you would please approach the podium. Sorry. 80 00:10:14,550 --> 00:10:14,550 gena giles. Well, that's favaloro. That was my married name. 81 00:10:19,190 --> 00:10:19,190 oh, verdin lane's a like a dirt road. I also, We own 123 verdin lane, which is at the end of that dirt road. 82 00:10:27,990 --> 00:10:27,990 I'm just trying to separate 113 verdin lane, Where she has her trailer on one side of the gravel road, 83 00:10:35,470 --> 00:10:39,110 and then the big piece of property on the other side of the gravel road. It's really not landlocked because I had to give the okay for 123 verdin lane to have Access to that property 84 00:10:48,990 --> 00:10:48,990 at all times. Even though it's a private drive, None of it's really landlocked because the street runs from wisner all the 85 00:10:58,990 --> 00:10:58,990 way down verdin lane. And that's 105 verdin lane, 113 verdin lane, and then 123 verdin lane. 86 00:11:08,470 --> 00:11:08,470 so I'm just trying to let her have her piece of property where her trailer is at to where She has her own piece of property. 87 00:11:18,190 --> 00:11:18,190 and then I still have my big piece across the street. 88 00:11:22,910 --> 00:11:22,910 and then I also, we still have 105 verdin lane and then 123. 89 00:11:29,110 --> 00:11:29,110 so I don't see where it's landlocked. So you do own 105 and 123. 90 00:11:38,230 --> 00:11:38,230 okay. Thank you. At this time. I'm going to open the public hearing for 2025-11- 91 00:11:48,510 --> 00:11:48,510 min. Anyone here with questions, comments are here to speak either for or against? 92 00:11:54,590 --> 00:11:54,590 if you please, approach the podium. Seeing none will close the public hearing for 2025-11-min. 93 00:12:04,950 --> 00:12:04,950 any questions from commissioners? No, no. I'm sorry, You had. 94 00:12:15,030 --> 00:12:18,492 that's not the subdivision. No, this is this is. Not yet. No, this is a different item. Any questions from commissioners for 95 00:12:28,310 --> 00:12:28,310 mrs. Favaloro? Yep. Is verdin lane. Mic, mic down? 96 00:12:38,470 --> 00:12:38,470 yeah. There you go. Verdin lane, do they may, Do we have to make that a designated street in order for that not to be considered 97 00:12:47,805 --> 00:12:47,805 mic]. Yes, it would have to become a public street for it to have frontage with our code. 98 00:12:58,350 --> 00:12:58,350 is it designated then? It's a private lane. Yes. 99 00:13:03,270 --> 00:13:03,270 they want to sell one of them. They have to no longer have access, Correct? 100 00:13:08,206 --> 00:13:08,206 since this is a private land. They're dealing with access easements throughout there, You know, 101 00:13:15,990 --> 00:13:15,990 the technicality and the code is it requires frontage on a public street, Not a private access lane. 102 00:13:33,470 --> 00:13:33,470 hey, do I have any further questions? You have a motion to consider 2025-11-min. 103 00:13:39,558 --> 00:13:39,558 so moved. Second. Frangella, price. 104 00:13:56,620 --> 00:13:56,620 and that motion fails. With everyone voting nay unanimously. 105 00:14:04,940 --> 00:14:04,940 next on the agenda, we have 2025-5-spu requested by. 106 00:14:10,300 --> 00:14:10,300 sorry. No, it's a resubdivision. Only if it's approved. 107 00:14:18,020 --> 00:14:18,020 yeah. So that does not go forward to the council. 108 00:14:22,420 --> 00:14:22,420 next on the agenda we have 2025-5-spu requested by deborah dufresne vial for r-1a use in a C-3 zoning district on lot b-2c, 109 00:14:32,420 --> 00:14:32,420 esperanza plantation, adjacent to 13979 river road in luling. 110 00:14:37,740 --> 00:14:37,740 council district one. As mentioned, the applicant proposes a single family home on lot B-2c zoned c-3, 111 00:14:44,940 --> 00:14:44,940 a single family home may be permitted only when reviewed and approved as a special permit Use. 112 00:14:50,220 --> 00:14:53,820 the request meets the majority of the evaluation criteria. It does not comply with the future land use designation, But it meets all other criteria evaluating for compatibility with the surrounding area. 113 00:15:01,540 --> 00:15:01,540 the plans show that setback and parking requirements can be met if approved. 114 00:15:05,900 --> 00:15:05,900 permitting must occur within 12 months. You'll also see on your desks that they have a Concern that was brought to our attention today concerning some 115 00:15:15,460 --> 00:15:15,460 drainage up by the river road at the front of the proposed site of this single family Home. 116 00:15:21,940 --> 00:15:21,940 if y'all would like to review that, but the department recommends approval. 117 00:15:27,300 --> 00:15:27,300 thank you. Is the applicant present and wish to speak? 118 00:15:45,620 --> 00:15:45,620 good evening. Deborah dufresne vial, 13979 river road. 119 00:15:49,980 --> 00:15:49,980 thank you. The request for rezoning is for a residence, As we, you know, stated in our 120 00:15:59,740 --> 00:15:59,740 application. The business park has commercial developments from jackie bee drive going Toward 121 00:16:09,660 --> 00:16:09,660 our houses. It transitions, I guess, from commercial to residential. 122 00:16:16,700 --> 00:16:16,700 when bso built the yellow plantation looking building, That's actually a lease that we have, 123 00:16:25,940 --> 00:16:25,940 we every we got I don't know how many letters in the mail from all the different lots Around the. 124 00:16:33,300 --> 00:16:33,300 but we own all the property adjacent. And like I said, You're transitioning from dufresne business park, 125 00:16:40,940 --> 00:16:40,940 which is m1 light industrial to residential all along river road right there. 126 00:16:48,420 --> 00:16:52,260 and we just would like to request your approval for that. And as far as the drainage, the drainage ditch, I think in the, the memo written, I don't know if it was from 127 00:17:02,260 --> 00:17:02,260 planning or what, but they there is a drainage ditch that's maintained by us that goes From river road 128 00:17:12,740 --> 00:17:12,740 to the railroad. And hopefully one day they'll get the culvert straight on the railroad, By our house, 129 00:17:21,140 --> 00:17:21,140 as well as everywhere else in the parish. That seems to be a hang up for water to get Through. 130 00:17:27,140 --> 00:17:27,140 but there is water in the ditch right now because we just poured the driveway. 131 00:17:32,060 --> 00:17:35,300 yeah. And that's. That's the picture. Have you seen this? I think it's blocked. Is it blocked because the cement is being poured or. 132 00:17:39,180 --> 00:17:39,180 yes, they poured the cement and we called the contractor again today to still to please Come. 133 00:17:44,980 --> 00:17:44,980 it's cured. The cement is good. Thank you. Okay. 134 00:17:49,220 --> 00:17:49,220 thank you. Thanks. At this time, we're going to open the public hearing for 2025-5-sbu. 135 00:17:57,780 --> 00:17:57,780 anyone with comments, questions or here to speak either for or against, If you please, approach the podium. 136 00:18:06,820 --> 00:18:10,820 seeing none, we'll close the public hearing for 2025-5-sbu. Any final questions for miss dufresne from commissioners? 137 00:18:16,500 --> 00:18:16,500 do I have a motion to consider. 2025-5-sbu. Mr. 138 00:18:20,980 --> 00:18:20,980 folse. Second. Second by ross. 139 00:18:34,140 --> 00:18:34,140 and that passes unanimously. Next on the agenda we have 2025-5-r 140 00:18:43,940 --> 00:18:43,940 requested by jeffrey vicknair for a change of zoning from c-1 to c-3 on the remainder of Lot 9, 141 00:18:50,220 --> 00:18:50,220 square 9, good hope subdivision block e, 435 apple street, Norco. 142 00:18:54,540 --> 00:18:54,540 council district 6. Thank you, mr. Chairman. The applicant is requesting a change from c-1 To c-3 for the purpose of an hvac shop. 143 00:19:04,940 --> 00:19:04,940 the department found that the request did not meet any of the three criteria, And as such, 144 00:19:09,740 --> 00:19:09,740 recommended denial. Thank you. Thank you. Is the applicant present? 145 00:19:16,100 --> 00:19:16,100 you wish to speak at anything. If you please approach the podium. 146 00:19:25,300 --> 00:19:28,620 if you state your name and address for the record, Please. Jeffrey joseph vicknair, 180 evangeline road, Montz, louisiana. 147 00:19:33,740 --> 00:19:37,140 guys, I bought a piece of property on apple street for 35. It was already commercially zoned. In order to open my business, Hvac business. 148 00:19:43,260 --> 00:19:43,260 so there is an office space there already that's commercially zoned. 149 00:19:48,940 --> 00:19:48,940 in the future, I'm looking to put a little storage facility behind the building. 150 00:19:53,740 --> 00:19:53,740 the only reason I'm getting it rezoned is because I called the parish, And they said I had to rezone it to open hvac business. 151 00:20:01,500 --> 00:20:05,340 I was calling to get the size of a sign I could put up in front of the building. I did not know when I purchased the property. 152 00:20:08,020 --> 00:20:08,020 it had to be a c-3 for an hvac company, so that's the reason I'm trying to rezone it. 153 00:20:13,300 --> 00:20:17,020 c-1 would be fine with me if I could run my business out of it. Got with all the neighbors. I got some signature signs saying they would have no issues With me putting the building up to parish codes behind them, 154 00:20:24,300 --> 00:20:24,300 behind the shop, behind the office space. It was commercially zoned before. 155 00:20:32,860 --> 00:20:32,860 and I don't see an issue with it. But if y'all do have one, I'd like to know why a c-1 is not good and has to be 156 00:20:42,860 --> 00:20:45,700 a c-3 because I don't understand it. Thank you. Thank you. This time, we're going to open the public hearing for 2025-5-r. 157 00:20:54,580 --> 00:20:58,340 all my neighbors. Submitted to the commission? Yes, please. Thank you marny. Public hearing for 2025-5-r. 158 00:21:05,140 --> 00:21:05,140 anyone with questions or comments or would like to speak either for or against? If you'd Please approach the podium. This time we'll close the 159 00:21:14,900 --> 00:21:14,900 public hearing for 2025-5-r. Any comments questions from commissioners? 160 00:21:21,500 --> 00:21:21,500 I guess, you know, I have no real problem with it. 161 00:21:26,900 --> 00:21:26,900 the issue is, if your business goes well, you get bigger and you move out and you change It to c-3. 162 00:21:33,020 --> 00:21:36,780 it's all the list of everything else that can go there. You know, I know, you know, I mean, it's just the fact that the, You know, the air conditioning has everything about you. 163 00:21:43,860 --> 00:21:47,140 okay. But if you think about it, there's a and. So that's the only concern you have when you know that 164 00:21:58,780 --> 00:21:58,780 where. It might not mean that, but I'm not going anywhere. If you're going to speak, You need to come back up if you want to. Any further questions from mr. 165 00:22:07,780 --> 00:22:07,780 vicknair? Go ahead. Michael. Just to add in, To answer the question, hvac repair and service is a specific c-3 use. 166 00:22:15,180 --> 00:22:15,180 it's not listed in c-1, it's just in c-3. The only other alternative would be to go to c-2 With a special permit use for it. 167 00:22:23,810 --> 00:22:23,810 so even if this fails, there is another path to go forward with an approval. 168 00:22:32,930 --> 00:22:32,930 any final questions from commissioners? Do I have a motion to consider 2020? 169 00:22:38,010 --> 00:22:38,010 go ahead, mr. Price. I would ask the applicant, Knowing what michael just stated. 170 00:22:44,330 --> 00:22:44,330 excuse me. Would you be willing to right now, Just say that you would rather go with the c-2 the special permit use. 171 00:22:51,450 --> 00:22:51,450 yes, sir. We would still have to take that application and process it. 172 00:22:58,290 --> 00:22:58,290 okay. So he could start that application in the time being because regardless of whether You all vote for approval or denial, 173 00:23:05,690 --> 00:23:05,690 it still goes to the parish council for final decision. 174 00:23:10,890 --> 00:23:10,890 unless you would like to withdraw it and resubmit it with c-2 with a special use permit. 175 00:23:18,050 --> 00:23:18,050 that's up to you. Yes, sir. I mean, that's that's fine. 176 00:23:22,170 --> 00:23:25,090 I was just told I had to have a c-3. That's the only way. That's the only reason I'm here. The c-2, well, It's not guaranteed to pass. 177 00:23:30,570 --> 00:23:33,130 the c-2 option does put more restriction on it. That means if you were to sell it and someone were to change the business, They would have to come back for a special use permit. 178 00:23:38,810 --> 00:23:42,810 so they couldn't put c-3 uses in that building anymore, Right? So when if you if you were to granted c2 zoning, You would ask for a special use just for that hvac business where you would come with 179 00:23:50,530 --> 00:23:50,530 sizes and criteria, and then we would make the decision based on that, Right. 180 00:23:55,690 --> 00:23:59,170 and it would only pertain to that specific use. Okay. So as a c-1, I cannot use that that building for office space? 181 00:24:04,890 --> 00:24:08,250 you can use it for office space. It is already commercially zoned. You can use it for office space. But if you look at the code there are certain list of Businesses, 182 00:24:12,850 --> 00:24:12,850 types of businesses you can have in c-1, c-2, And c-3. 183 00:24:17,370 --> 00:24:17,370 hvac because of the sheet metal and the equipment and forklifts, And. 184 00:24:21,930 --> 00:24:21,930 unfortunately, I'm not going to have all that, But I understand. And, but that's why it falls in that c3 category, 185 00:24:27,410 --> 00:24:27,410 which also increases requirements for access to a commercial highway, Things like that. 186 00:24:31,890 --> 00:24:31,890 could I ask what bird signs is right next door to me, With all their forklifts and everything else right next door? 187 00:24:38,130 --> 00:24:38,130 it can't be. Let's see. So there is c-1 next, You're talking about on the 188 00:24:48,130 --> 00:24:51,850 left side? Yes sir. Stan, it's on c-1 as well. So they have forklifts and big buildings and all that c-1. 189 00:24:54,610 --> 00:24:58,570 so the building and there's no forklift restriction on c-1, The buildings. It depends on what type of business it is. But hvac plumbers I think are specifically Listed in c-3, 190 00:25:05,410 --> 00:25:05,410 correct? And if you were just running your office out of the building now, You could do that. 191 00:25:09,730 --> 00:25:13,050 if there was no equipment and nothing else coming out of it. Yeah. I mean, that's it's also saying that's about it. 192 00:25:16,650 --> 00:25:16,650 no, it'll have to be that. That would be it. Not just about like no equipment, No servicing, 193 00:25:21,730 --> 00:25:25,650 no bringing parts back to until the zones, zonning is change. Maybe I'll do to c-2 because I would like to put a little 14 by 14 shed in the back. 194 00:25:30,210 --> 00:25:30,210 okay. Why don't we have you talk with one of my staff members tomorrow and we'll see about Getting that set up. 195 00:25:35,930 --> 00:25:38,490 all right. Thank you. Thank you, mr. Vicknair. I have a motion to withdraw. 2025-5-r. I motion. 196 00:25:42,770 --> 00:25:42,770 motion by mr. Price. Second. Second by mr. Ross. 197 00:25:59,290 --> 00:25:59,290 and that passes. Thank you, mr. Vicknair, for considering some options. 198 00:26:09,050 --> 00:26:09,050 next on the agenda we have 2025-1-maj requested by j. 199 00:26:13,650 --> 00:26:13,650 breaux enterprises for a preliminary plat approval of rivermist, A new residential subdivision off river road in saint rose adjacent to dianne place 200 00:26:22,250 --> 00:26:22,250 subdivision. Zoning district is r-1a. Council district 5. 201 00:26:26,930 --> 00:26:26,930 thank you, mr. Chairman. This application is for rivermist subdivision. 202 00:26:31,690 --> 00:26:31,690 it proposes 109 new residential lots with ten common area lots, Two new rights of way and one right of way extension. 203 00:26:39,970 --> 00:26:39,970 20 foot private drainage servitude within each block, A detention pond at the rear of the subdivision between block e and the railroad tracks, 204 00:26:47,850 --> 00:26:47,850 and a sewer lift station within block e between gentle showers street and the detention Pond. 205 00:26:52,690 --> 00:26:52,690 there is a phasing plan in place for the subdivision, With phase 1 being lots one through 60 and the detention pond, 206 00:27:00,170 --> 00:27:00,170 the sewer lift station, and phase 2 being lots. 207 00:27:04,490 --> 00:27:04,490 well, the remainder 49 lots up to the 109. The following items have to be 208 00:27:14,450 --> 00:27:14,450 submitted in order for the application to be reviewed by the planning commission, Inclusive of a preliminary plat, 209 00:27:19,650 --> 00:27:23,210 drainage and impact analysis and traffic impact analysis. The required reports and responses are in your packet tonight. 210 00:27:27,010 --> 00:27:27,010 in addition, the department of water or wastewater has reviewed this sewer evaluation Report. 211 00:27:34,250 --> 00:27:34,250 you have comments on that in your packet. The plat is deficient in two ways. 212 00:27:39,530 --> 00:27:39,530 it is specifically lacking or has block length in excess of 1500 feet. 213 00:27:46,370 --> 00:27:46,370 and it has a lot to the north of the track that is landlocked. 214 00:27:52,970 --> 00:27:52,970 both of those items require a waiver to be heard by the commission and council. 215 00:27:59,930 --> 00:27:59,930 the application in its current form meets the requirements of the major subdivision Process. 216 00:28:04,570 --> 00:28:08,250 thank you. Thank you. Is the applicant present? Do you wish to speak? Please state your name and address for the record, Please. 217 00:28:17,570 --> 00:28:17,570 good evening. My name is greg bloss with duplantis design group. 218 00:28:21,850 --> 00:28:21,850 address is 1308 camellia boulevard, lafayette, Louisiana, 70508. 219 00:28:28,010 --> 00:28:28,010 I'm the civil engineer for the project, and I'd be happy to answer any questions that you Guys have. 220 00:28:33,370 --> 00:28:33,370 thank you. Thank you. Any questions at this point from commissioners? 221 00:28:39,410 --> 00:28:39,410 thank you. At this point, we're going to open the public hearing for 2025-1-maj. 222 00:28:46,330 --> 00:28:46,330 anyone here with comments, questions or are willing to speak either forward? 223 00:28:51,108 --> 00:28:51,108 all of us. If we could please keep the audience chatter down. 224 00:28:55,450 --> 00:28:55,450 and if you'd please approach the podium. Again, Three minutes per individual. 225 00:28:59,530 --> 00:29:02,530 if you're speaking for more than one person, Just let us know. We'll give you a bit more time. But thank you. 226 00:29:05,930 --> 00:29:08,690 name and address, please. My name is cynthia costello. I live at 230 dianne drive in saint rose, louisiana. 227 00:29:13,130 --> 00:29:13,130 I want to thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak tonight. I'm a current Resident, 228 00:29:18,010 --> 00:29:18,010 president of the dianne place civic association, And many of our residents have come to me with concerns about the proposed new rivermist 229 00:29:26,370 --> 00:29:26,370 subdivision in saint rose. It is my understanding that the proposed subdivision plan, To be built between janet drive and the cemetery and saint rose off 230 00:29:36,330 --> 00:29:36,330 of river road. I believe I read that phase 1 subdivision, Will have, the subdivision will have 109 homes in 231 00:29:46,170 --> 00:29:46,170 it, and plans to cut through gene drive as an additional exit access to the new Subdivision. 232 00:29:53,450 --> 00:29:57,250 I'm 100% opposed to building this new proposed subdivision. I do not believe that the parish can handle the flooding that we are already dealing with In many of the subdivisions in saint rose, 233 00:30:03,930 --> 00:30:03,930 including dianne place subdivision. Our residents have suffered flooding many, Many, many times in the 38 years that I have lived in dianne place. 234 00:30:12,930 --> 00:30:12,930 I also learned that because of the limited parish capacity, Rivermist will utilize a private treatment facility. 235 00:30:21,450 --> 00:30:21,450 that right there tells me that the parish can't handle more capacity, And we shouldn't even consider building more subdivisions until we can. 236 00:30:28,930 --> 00:30:28,930 another question I have regarding the hoa running the sewer treatment facility is, Will the hoa be required to have a financial reserve to 237 00:30:38,490 --> 00:30:41,970 guarantee maintenance of the sewer treatment of that plant? And if not, what guarantees will there be that the hoa will live up to their Responsibilities? 238 00:30:47,730 --> 00:30:47,730 will there be a person in the hoa that has knowledge on even how to maintain and what's Required? 239 00:30:55,610 --> 00:30:55,610 so many questions. Because of the limited parish capacity, The rivermist subdivision hoa will be responsible for maintaining their own site sewer 240 00:31:05,410 --> 00:31:05,410 treatment plant. How does that work? If the hoa doesn't have the funds. 241 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:10,920 who's in charge of making sure it's properly maintained? 242 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:15,040 how will that sewage treatment plant impact the residents of dianne place subdivision? 243 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:19,800 will there be odors from it? If I read the plants correctly, It will be built along the backyards of homes on the end of janet. 244 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,760 will the placement adversely affect their property values? I would want to purchase. I wouldn't want to purchase a home next to a sewage treatment Plant. 245 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:36,920 another concern I have is rainwater runoff from rivermist subdivision. 246 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,560 will it be pumped? How will it be pumped out into where? Will this new subdivision will utilize the same drainage ponds, Areas and equipment used by dianne place? 247 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:53,000 if that's the plan, we're in trouble. I'm very concerned that building the new subdivision In an area already prone to flooding, 248 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:01,240 even in a hard rain, can cause increased flood risk to dianne place residents. 249 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:07,680 as we've seen, when they build new subdivisions in our area, They're already having great great flooding insurance, 250 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:15,800 great flooding issues, the strain on the drainage system which turns into flooding homes. 251 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:22,320 it's not that I oppose growth in our parish, But we need to be able to have the infrastructure in place to maintain that growth. 252 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:30,800 and I see the proposed river subdivision as a disaster waiting to happen to saint rose. 253 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:36,000 I would like to see the drainage upgrades needed in saint rose to be able to handle these Issues we're having currently, 254 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:43,560 before we build anything else, I read that there will be a cut through on jean drive tying Die in place to the new subdivision. 255 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:52,080 we are currently experiencing cracks streets, Sinking areas, uneven roads in our subdivision. 256 00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:58,520 I believe adding more traffic to our streets is going to cause more problems and have more Issues. 257 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:04,800 I have not also not read anything in the planning about our school resources and how a new Subdivision could impact, 258 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:12,560 can st. Rose elementary and albert cammon handle more students? 259 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:17,160 do they have classroom capacity and the teachers? 260 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:21,800 thank you for the opportunity to speak tonight. I sincerely hope that some of our concerns From dianne place will be addressed by the planning and zoning board and taken into 261 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:30,200 consideration. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? 262 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:39,960 and we'll we'll take questions, comments. And then at the end, We'll ask the applicant to come back up and try to answer some of them if we can just keep 263 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:47,040 on going. I don't know if I'm going to repeat something she said, Because we can't hear them right back there. 264 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,920 if we can hear somebody talking. But that's it. We can't tell what they're saying. Is that mic on? 265 00:33:58,480 --> 00:33:58,480 zoe? I mean, it's even difficult to hear what you're saying back there, But okay, I'll try to speak a bit louder. 266 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:05,960 thank you. If you please, state your name and address for the record, Please. My name is debbie. Lastname. Becker. 130 janet drive in dianne place subdivision. 267 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:16,360 and I just have specific questions regarding what the plan is. 268 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:22,440 first, I live in the front. I have not, by god's grace, Been flooded, but there are many in the back who have more than once. 269 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:32,960 the pumping stations have a hard time just helping those people not have the fear of more Water in their house every time it rains. 270 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:41,560 they upgraded them, it looks like they upgraded them for this, But we've been told no, that's not the case. 271 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:47,840 the other thing is that came up is, the flood zone has, The plane has changed. 272 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:55,760 so if they come in with a subdivision, what is that? 273 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:03,080 how high are they going to raise those houses? That's going to bring the water right back in. 274 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:05,080 to die in place into the houses that butt up against that field. 275 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:09,480 my house being one of them. And that's concerning that that water is going to come to me. 276 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,480 and then for me, it's going to go back to the back of the subdivision. The other thing, there's been some talk about access that. 277 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:27,760 are they going to access from river road. Are they going to access through dianne place? 278 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:33,400 I've heard that they're going to possibly use gene drive as an access, Possibly the front of janet, 279 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:39,360 where it turns. We have so much traffic now that flies up through there. 280 00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:44,240 we don't need anymore. And the electric grid, We seem to be going down all the time. 281 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:52,120 what are they going to do to strengthen that electric grid? 282 00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:58,080 I mean, we've we've lost power twice within the last month or so. 283 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:02,400 just the other day, a couple of days ago, we were without power for at least two hours. 284 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:07,640 and they said, we don't know why. If you put it back on, You have to know why. 285 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:13,320 so it looks like they're just turning it off because the grid can't hold the drain. 286 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:19,440 my other question is. With 287 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:29,440 the access was one of them. And I believe it's going to be an hoa. 288 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,760 that's the housing. It's going to be an hoa subdivision that they're planning. It is recommended. It is listed to be maintained by an hoa. 289 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:45,880 at least pieces and parts of the subdivision, Yes. Okay, and along that fence line, I don't know how many years that was a an orchard for Pecan trees. 290 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,320 those trees, a lot of them are in very bad shape. A lot of them are infested with termites. Are they going to take those down? 291 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:04,600 if this is, if this goes through. I mean, there's a whole lot of questions for people who Have lived in dianne place. 292 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:10,120 I've been there for over 40 years and it's concerning. 293 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:15,520 thank you. Thank you. Yeah. And again, we'll have the applicant come back up and try to Answer some of the questions at the end. 294 00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:27,720 thank you. If you please state your name and address for the record, Please. Hi, I'm courtney fasola. I live at 275 dianne drive, 295 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:33,640 which is the very back of the neighborhood. The property where this neighborhood is Supposed to be. 296 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:40,480 I actually have my horse there right now. So I'm on this land every single day. 297 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,200 if it rains for more than five minutes. This whole property is a lake. I'm not kidding. I had to have a vet come out to treat my horse's hooves because he is Just in standing water constantly. 298 00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:57,520 so obviously it will have to be built up. So these houses don't flood. 299 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:02,280 and just on janet themselves, if we rain for more than 30 minutes, People are getting water in their house, 300 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:08,480 like this is daily. I'm sure many here flooded recently. 301 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:13,920 like we can't take more than 30 minutes of heavy rain or we flood. 302 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:18,760 I understand we just got a new pumping station, And I don't really see a difference when it floods. 303 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,840 my house is raised a little, so I do get lucky in the back. I'm selling a house across the street that almost gets rain in often. 304 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:34,640 there's a lady across the street diagonally from me, She has rebuilt her house, I'm not kidding, 305 00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:40,240 you like three times just since ida. The flooding in here is unreal. 306 00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:48,080 and I'm on that property every day. It's swamp. I like, it's going to take lots of build up to make this livable for one. 307 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:54,080 and then I saw on the plans they want to put a sewer pump in like someone's backyard on Janet basically, 308 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:00,040 I wouldn't be happy about that. My main concern isn't, I can move my horse, I get that. 309 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:07,800 I'm just on the property every day, and I see how bad of shape it's in, Even with the drainage ditches built in it already, 310 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:14,040 as it is for it to drain, it doesn't drain. It sits there for days and days like I'm Talking about six plus inches of water in most spots that just sits there 311 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,240 and we already flood. That's my main concern. Can our sewer withstand it? Can our grid electricity grid withstand it? 312 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:32,440 how will this affect our school system? Our teachers are already ran out there, Ran into the ground as it is, 313 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:39,360 and I just don't see how this would be beneficial to anyone in die in place with the value Of our homes, 314 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,790 especially making the flooding worse. That's my main thing. Thank you for your time. Good afternoon. My name 315 00:40:02,710 --> 00:40:02,710 is robert dale. I'm at 263 dianne drive. I think my the previous speakers have expressed Our concerns very well, 316 00:40:11,510 --> 00:40:11,510 so I'm not going to take much time. I just want to point out that I'm currently going Through the very expensive process of having my house elevated, 317 00:40:18,750 --> 00:40:18,750 which is a mitigation process, and my concern is that this new development will aggravate, 318 00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:25,270 not mitigate. So thank you for your consideration. 319 00:40:29,310 --> 00:40:29,310 thank you. Hi, I'm bonnie hymel. We live at 232 janet 320 00:40:39,030 --> 00:40:39,030 drive and our street floods every day when it rains. 321 00:40:43,310 --> 00:40:47,270 doesn't even have to rain 5 minutes. Just this past week when we had a storm. You go out there and the water is up to the, Up to your knees. 322 00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:50,950 232, 230, 228, we fled all the time. The. My neighbors. 323 00:40:55,990 --> 00:40:55,990 they flooded for ida. Weren't even in their house a year when we all flooded for francine. 324 00:41:02,230 --> 00:41:02,230 nothing is being done to fix this issue. And now you're wanting to add more to it. 325 00:41:07,870 --> 00:41:07,870 and the water, because the street was flooded for francine came in through the back, Through the spill that you're wanting to. 326 00:41:14,870 --> 00:41:14,870 so I had all that gunk, all the cow manure, all the horse, All that in my house. 327 00:41:21,510 --> 00:41:21,510 you know, we just got back in our house. I'm freaking now every time it tries to rain. 328 00:41:28,830 --> 00:41:28,830 so, I mean, I think the drainage situation needs to be looked at totally in there because There is something wrong. 329 00:41:35,910 --> 00:41:35,910 and this has been, we've been in there for 20 years and it's still doing it. 330 00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:40,390 so thank you. Thank you mrs. Hymel. Anyone else? 331 00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:44,550 and if we could please keep the conversation and the audience down. Remember we're Recording, this is being broadcast, so we want to make sure everyone's being heard 332 00:41:51,190 --> 00:41:51,190 clearly. Good evening. My name is nancyjo allemand. I live at 238 janet drive. 333 00:41:55,830 --> 00:41:55,830 I have not lived there for 40 or 28 years. I've only been there for four and a half. 334 00:42:01,630 --> 00:42:01,630 however, the plan for the to drain the new rivermist subdivision is simply a plan on Paper. 335 00:42:07,550 --> 00:42:07,550 my house luckily did not flood, but it came within a little half an inch during hurricane Francine. 336 00:42:15,550 --> 00:42:19,510 and I did, our home, which we'd only been in for six months. We closed in our house in january, oh february of 2021, And we did receive substantial damage during hurricane ida. 337 00:42:28,270 --> 00:42:28,270 I had lived in jefferson parish during hurricane katrina and not had that much damage in My home. 338 00:42:38,430 --> 00:42:38,430 if that if that area behind our home is r-1a, I don't. 339 00:42:46,070 --> 00:42:46,070 during hurricane ida, our fence came down and I had horses in my back yard from that Pasture. 340 00:42:54,270 --> 00:42:57,630 and I've seen cows and other livestock in that area. So if it is an r-1a, why are there livestock on that property? 341 00:43:02,350 --> 00:43:02,350 that doesn't seem, that doesn't make sense. If that is zoned a residential area and has Been zoned a residential area, 342 00:43:10,430 --> 00:43:10,430 it is poorly maintained. There are debris brush piles behind our fences that you can see, Dead trees falling down. 343 00:43:20,230 --> 00:43:20,230 and like I've said, live animals that have, I mean, I've been coming home one night from work and there are cows coming down from the proposed 344 00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:28,230 area where they want to cut through the road access. 345 00:43:32,710 --> 00:43:32,710 so there's animals back there and, and it just it does not seem like a very thought out Plan. 346 00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:45,430 it is zoned r-1a, it is zoned currently today r1-a. So animals are like allowed on r-1a? Okay so that. 347 00:43:53,950 --> 00:43:53,950 they're adjacent. I don't know who. They are because they were, Because I have pictures of horses. 348 00:44:01,310 --> 00:44:04,990 an open land area would allow it, right. Okay. So the reality is the current drainage plan for dam. 349 00:44:08,590 --> 00:44:12,030 so division does not work properly to protect its residents from flooding. Numerous homes have flooded in the past, including my own. 350 00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:14,790 some multiple times. And others have been threatened by flood waters, Including my home on occasion as well, 351 00:44:19,630 --> 00:44:19,630 especially during hurricane francine. Storm waters from river mist will end up in the same Place as those that presently flow out of dianne division that scenario will not be good 352 00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:28,390 for dianne place. It will put more homes at risk of flooding because the drainage Infrastructure cannot currently handle the drainage from dianne place, in addition to a 353 00:44:35,070 --> 00:44:35,070 new subdivision, I ask that this project not move forward until the needed drainage and Wastewater infrastructure is in place to ensure that all the residents of dianne place are 354 00:44:43,470 --> 00:44:43,470 protected from flooding and improper wastewater treatment. Thank you, Thank you. 355 00:44:55,710 --> 00:44:55,710 name and address, please. I am dakota ward, 214 dianne drive. 356 00:45:00,830 --> 00:45:00,830 no, I ain't gonna beat up a dead horse on the flooding because it's obvious. Obviously a Problem back there, but my main concern is saint rose primary and albert cameron middle. 357 00:45:09,950 --> 00:45:09,950 obviously coming from outside. They're not in our neighborhood as far as saint rose goes As a whole. 358 00:45:15,070 --> 00:45:19,030 so they don't know the trials and tribulations we go through with kids and our youth. So at 109 homes, I think I read something about maybe multifamily also, I'm not sure about that, 359 00:45:24,230 --> 00:45:24,230 but so potentially 109 kids going into a school system that, From what I hear, is 25 to 1 in some classrooms. 360 00:45:30,790 --> 00:45:30,790 so I like that to be considered by y'all before y'all vote or at least investigation on, You know, 361 00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:35,990 something on that. Thank you. Thank you. Hello, My name is ronshawn williams. 362 00:45:45,710 --> 00:45:45,710 I live at 262, dianne. I bought my house three years ago, And every year since I've been there, 363 00:45:52,510 --> 00:45:52,510 I've been out with my neighbors by cleaning drains when it flood. 364 00:45:57,230 --> 00:45:57,230 a matter of fact, the day I think I bought my house at rain and I saw the water slowly Creep up, 365 00:46:01,310 --> 00:46:01,310 which was a scary thing. I also bought in that neighborhood because of the school system, And that's a concern. 366 00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:07,190 I have two young boys, and I don't want overcrowding or anything of that nature, Because that does affect kids. 367 00:46:13,870 --> 00:46:13,870 if they're not able to get that one on one with the teachers, Which is going to hurt everyone in the long run. 368 00:46:18,430 --> 00:46:18,430 so I'm just 100% opposed to this right now. Between the flooding and the school system and Then hearing about the waste pump being in the back because I'm actually riding a bike. 369 00:46:27,830 --> 00:46:30,870 so that's a wonderful smell that I'll have to deal with as well. So just wanted to put that out there. Thank you. 370 00:46:33,590 --> 00:46:33,590 thank you, mr. Williams. Hi, my name is kendell castillo. 371 00:46:43,110 --> 00:46:43,110 I live at 128 janet, and I just want to say, If y'all raised the dirt behind my house like my neighbor, 372 00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:49,670 water is definitely going to come into my house because I'm already this far from water Getting into my house with a hard rain, 373 00:46:55,870 --> 00:46:55,870 so. And I've seen the front of dianne place flood all the way to my truck's bumper just About a week or two ago. 374 00:47:01,870 --> 00:47:04,790 so I definitely don't want water going into my house. And that'll be my problem if y'all elevate those of yours like that. 375 00:47:08,870 --> 00:47:08,870 thank you. Thank you. Hi, I'm kayla phillip. I live at 376 00:47:18,790 --> 00:47:18,790 260 janet and I actually built my home there, So I've been there from the beginning. 377 00:47:25,630 --> 00:47:25,630 I am very fortunate. I have never flooded because there were five houses on our street That are higher than the other houses because they pass an ordinance, 378 00:47:34,870 --> 00:47:34,870 when they were building to raise them. So the builder raised those five and then put in to Lower the rest and they got lowered. 379 00:47:43,580 --> 00:47:43,580 so those people flood. But I have never flooded, So I'd like to keep it that way. 380 00:47:49,060 --> 00:47:49,060 so I have a question like everybody else. What is the elevation going to be? 381 00:47:53,980 --> 00:47:53,980 I'd also like a definition of what these common areas slash drainage servitude are, Because there's a very large one right behind my home. 382 00:48:03,460 --> 00:48:03,460 also, the proposal of the lift station, which is three houses down from me, Which is a very big concern for a lot of us, 383 00:48:12,260 --> 00:48:12,260 is is it a storm sewer, a regular sewer? Is it above ground? 384 00:48:18,020 --> 00:48:18,020 in ground? How is it going to run? Is it generator backup? 385 00:48:22,580 --> 00:48:26,060 is it electrical? What happens when the power goes out? What happens if it's not maintained? And is there a reason that it has to be behind Somebody's house? 386 00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:36,980 but why is it even there? Does it need to be there? So that's all my questions. Thank you. Thank you. 387 00:48:49,500 --> 00:48:49,500 victor van, I live at 160 janet drive. I've been there 30 years and I have a great concern With the water. 388 00:48:59,660 --> 00:48:59,660 I've seen things over the years, and I guess 95 to 18in of rain in two days. 389 00:49:08,660 --> 00:49:08,660 and the whole back of the subdivision was water. 390 00:49:14,340 --> 00:49:14,340 the pastures about two feet lower than the property on janet drive. 391 00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:20,700 and a lot of the water goes off on there, you know, It builds up, but it does drain there. 392 00:49:26,020 --> 00:49:26,020 it's a tremendous amount of soil they're going to have to put to raise this up. 393 00:49:31,380 --> 00:49:35,260 how long does it have to settle? Where's the water going to go while why? That's settling. I just have a major concern with the water. 394 00:49:40,580 --> 00:49:40,580 traffic, you know, that's going to be there anyway. 395 00:49:45,260 --> 00:49:45,260 but thank you for the opportunity to speak. Hope everyone's well. 396 00:49:49,580 --> 00:49:49,580 thank you. Hi. I'm 397 00:49:59,500 --> 00:49:59,500 paris taliancich, and I have a house on 200 janet. 398 00:50:04,140 --> 00:50:04,140 so in gene. So this will definitely affect me. 399 00:50:08,220 --> 00:50:08,220 being on the corner of gene, I will get all the heavy traffic coming in and out right in Front of my house. 400 00:50:16,260 --> 00:50:16,260 I'm on that dead end right now. So also to the flooding. 401 00:50:21,220 --> 00:50:21,220 I have been fortunate enough to never flood, But I am concerned about the flooding, just with this new subdivision. 402 00:50:31,180 --> 00:50:34,420 I mean, I do get the flooding in my backyard. It has never came close to my front door, but I can definitely see where that could be a Problem in the future with flooding. 403 00:50:43,380 --> 00:50:43,380 so that's all I have to say. Thank you. Good 404 00:50:53,140 --> 00:50:53,140 evening. My name is steve philip. I live at 260 janet. 405 00:50:57,460 --> 00:50:57,460 my boss was up here speaking a minute ago. I guess some of my concerns are going to be What's already been mentioned. 406 00:51:03,300 --> 00:51:03,300 I have assisted other people raising furniture in their house when we've had the floods. 407 00:51:08,340 --> 00:51:08,340 I also am a member of what they call cocorahs for the last two years, I've been reporting rain levels in our subdivision to a national organization out of 408 00:51:17,140 --> 00:51:17,140 colorado. The last time it flooded in our subdivision, Which it didn't hit us, it hit the other people was only 2.25in of rain. 409 00:51:25,660 --> 00:51:25,660 so just so you keep that in mind. The other thing is, For those of us who don't flood but have to come home. 410 00:51:32,660 --> 00:51:32,660 these people don't want us driving through the water and pushing it into their houses, Which I can understand. So not only are we worried about who does or doesn't flood. 411 00:51:40,220 --> 00:51:40,220 you may not be able to get home either. And I'm just thinking that's another thing we have To think about. 412 00:51:45,060 --> 00:51:45,060 and as far as the lift station, I don't know if any of you have been around lift stations That move sewage. 413 00:51:50,380 --> 00:51:50,380 where I work, I recently had to go out and take pictures of 85 lift stations. 414 00:51:55,340 --> 00:51:59,340 80 out of the 85 had a really gross smell coming from them. So I can tell you that it can be bad if it's not maintained, And it's hard to maintain to keep the smell away. 415 00:52:06,300 --> 00:52:06,300 that will decrease the value of our homes. And like somebody else has already said, How much higher are they going to have to raise the ground behind us? 416 00:52:14,260 --> 00:52:14,260 I would feel more comfortable with all of this if you could prevent our subdivision from Not flooding for one year before you allow them to build this, 417 00:52:23,460 --> 00:52:23,460 because right now we know it cannot handle a 2.5in rain and keep people up in the middle Of the subdivision from flooding. 418 00:52:32,140 --> 00:52:32,140 so it is truly a concern. Thank you. Thank you. 419 00:52:44,340 --> 00:52:44,340 hello, I'm ashley roussel. 219 janet drive. I'm kind of going to go on education side Along with the flooding. 420 00:52:52,380 --> 00:52:52,380 education wise, I feel like it's going to be disadvantaged, At least for our kids. 421 00:52:56,540 --> 00:52:56,540 for the fact right now our busses are already overloaded, And it's kind of come to the extent to where some parents end up having to bring kids to 422 00:53:05,660 --> 00:53:05,660 school because there's nowhere for them to fit on the busses in our area. 423 00:53:10,020 --> 00:53:10,020 on the flooding side, every time it floods, I have water come through my backyard and I'm Not even, 424 00:53:16,420 --> 00:53:16,420 and I'm on the other side. So like the pasture is across the street from me. 425 00:53:21,740 --> 00:53:21,740 just last week when it rained, I walked outside to and I have a drain in front of my House. 426 00:53:29,500 --> 00:53:31,820 I am constantly outside. My husband is outside. All of our neighbors outside. I have many of them here. 427 00:53:35,220 --> 00:53:38,540 we are pulling stuff out of drainages to try to get the water down. Last week I literally within ten minutes of rain walked out to knee deep water. 428 00:53:45,260 --> 00:53:45,260 couldn't even get out of my house to go pick up my kid from school because I couldn't get Out of the driveway. 429 00:53:51,100 --> 00:53:51,100 so that's kind of like just some of the real concerns. 430 00:53:55,340 --> 00:53:55,340 a lot of the water on the for the people on my side, It backs into our drainage systems. 431 00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:02,100 so we have drainage systems in our back yard when the street floods, It comes in through our back doors. 432 00:54:09,060 --> 00:54:09,060 I literally have sandbags, have had them since ida, Constantly behind my back door, and I still get water in my house every time it rains. 433 00:54:19,380 --> 00:54:19,380 so I'm kind of rain and education side is the concern for me. 434 00:54:24,460 --> 00:54:24,460 thank you. Thank you. It's the public hearing for 2025-1-maj. 435 00:54:55,900 --> 00:54:55,900 good evening. My name is cliff buller. I reside at number 3 canyon lane in the bar none Ranch subdivision, 436 00:55:01,500 --> 00:55:05,340 which is just down river from our good friends and dianne place. And I'm speaking in opposition to this development at this time. 437 00:55:08,820 --> 00:55:08,820 my concerns are mainly the drainage that we've been discussing. 438 00:55:13,220 --> 00:55:13,220 and the, our process of approving subdivisions right now seems to be rather haphazard. 439 00:55:21,500 --> 00:55:21,500 this particular development is very dense. The lots are a minimum size of about 6000ft², Requiring a 20 foot servitude on the 440 00:55:31,260 --> 00:55:31,260 front and rear of the property of each lot. So to be very limited to what you can actually Build on these, 441 00:55:37,620 --> 00:55:37,620 on these lots the concern of a drainage and, And the the sewage treatment, I'm confused in reading the report, 442 00:55:46,380 --> 00:55:46,380 the application, and sometimes it's referred to as a lift station and sometimes as a Sewage treatment plant. 443 00:55:53,420 --> 00:55:53,420 I believe those are two different animals. And I'm curious as to what exactly is required In this process. 444 00:55:59,940 --> 00:55:59,940 the idea of an hoa maintaining these facilities is crazy. 445 00:56:05,100 --> 00:56:05,100 I just do not see that happening a long run. You know, Maybe for the first couple of years they can have a procedure set up to fund it and 446 00:56:10,980 --> 00:56:10,980 operate it. But what's going to happen, you know, Five, ten, 15, 20 years down the line, what's going to happen is our parish at the 447 00:56:17,340 --> 00:56:17,340 taxpayers expense, got to step in and upgrade these facilities to maintain them. 448 00:56:21,860 --> 00:56:21,860 so I think there's too many questions to be to be looked at here. 449 00:56:26,810 --> 00:56:26,810 the poor folks at 252 to 256 janet will have a sewerage station in her backyard. 450 00:56:36,050 --> 00:56:36,050 the people from 258 to 270 janet will have a retention pond in their backyard. 451 00:56:41,530 --> 00:56:41,530 and who's going to maintain that? And who's going to deal with the mosquitoes and spells And and aggravation of it? 452 00:56:46,890 --> 00:56:46,890 so I'm opposed to this. Thank you. Thank you. 453 00:56:58,130 --> 00:57:02,090 are you finished? No. Go ahead. If you please, State your name and address for the record, please. Hi, I'm cathy newman, and I live at 103 janet drive. 454 00:57:08,530 --> 00:57:08,530 okay. I haven't flooded. I've been lucky enough to not flood, But when it rains, the. 455 00:57:16,770 --> 00:57:16,770 I live where you can see the feel that it's backing the farmer. 456 00:57:21,450 --> 00:57:21,450 the flooding that comes from there when we have bad rain. 457 00:57:25,970 --> 00:57:25,970 the water hits the street and it almost comes in the middle of the street, And you can see it rushing to the back of the neighborhood. 458 00:57:33,850 --> 00:57:33,850 so we know what those people are going through, The horrors that they're facing while we're sitting there. 459 00:57:40,290 --> 00:57:40,290 you know, other than that, my big concern, I'm concerned for them. 460 00:57:45,290 --> 00:57:45,290 my big concern is I live right where the janet drive, The curve is, three stops on the corner there of 461 00:57:54,690 --> 00:57:54,690 dianne. When the people leave that stop sign. 462 00:57:58,810 --> 00:57:58,810 they fly around the corner there. All the neighbors, Right there are always waiting for a child to get hit on the bike. 463 00:58:06,810 --> 00:58:06,810 so any more traffic coming through, there is going to be a nightmare, A total nightmare. 464 00:58:12,690 --> 00:58:12,690 my other concern, the people at park on the street, Right there on that, up on that corner, 465 00:58:19,170 --> 00:58:19,170 right there near the stop sign towards the curve. 466 00:58:23,370 --> 00:58:23,370 you can't do nothing about that. My point is, The fire department can't get through, there's no way, 467 00:58:30,530 --> 00:58:30,530 because we can't get our cars through. So if they're going to build more houses and that's Going to be a thoroughfare on gene to get through, 468 00:58:39,490 --> 00:58:39,490 and the fire department might have to use it, Then what's going to happen? 469 00:58:44,010 --> 00:58:44,010 like I said, and then all the traffic, they're going to be coming through and stopping at The stop sign, 470 00:58:50,570 --> 00:58:53,810 and then it's going to just be back and all the way up. So concern for kids, the stop sign that my children go to, My grandchildren go to st. 471 00:58:59,370 --> 00:58:59,370 rose stops two houses away from that curve. There's no way she's going to be able to do That with all that traffic. 472 00:59:08,850 --> 00:59:08,850 what's going to happen with the busses? Thank you for listening to me. 473 00:59:13,410 --> 00:59:13,410 thank you. Can I say I'm about to go back to the fire department, My husband is a firefighter and he cannot get through. 474 00:59:21,170 --> 00:59:21,170 yeah, you would have to come back up. And you've spoken once, But sorry about that. 475 00:59:29,210 --> 00:59:29,210 I'm zina riley at 264 janet drive, which is at the end of janet drive, And the last drain is in front of my house. 476 00:59:38,650 --> 00:59:38,650 I've been there for 27 years. Unfortunately, We have never flooded, but we have been close to it many times. 477 00:59:47,690 --> 00:59:47,690 and I applaud my husband for that because he's always home and he's always out to keep the Drain clear and clean, 478 00:59:55,490 --> 00:59:55,490 along with some of our neighbors here. And it could be 12:00 at night. 479 01:00:00,410 --> 01:00:00,410 they're out there protecting us from flooding. 480 01:00:05,570 --> 01:00:05,570 I've been a bus driver for 28 years here in saint charles parish, And I drove in dianne place, 481 01:00:12,450 --> 01:00:12,450 and it has been numerous times where it was just a rainy day, And we're picking up kids and they're all wet from 482 01:00:22,290 --> 01:00:22,290 the shoe up to the knee already with just regular rain water. 483 01:00:26,610 --> 01:00:26,610 I know that it's been expressed already through almost everyone in here about the Drainage, 484 01:00:32,410 --> 01:00:32,410 but where my house is, I would have to deal with the retention pond and the sewage Station, 485 01:00:41,930 --> 01:00:45,730 which would definitely curb my lifestyle of living. Backyard barbecues, just smell, crawfish balls. 486 01:00:49,490 --> 01:00:49,490 I don't see that taking place anymore, so I 100% oppose. 487 01:00:55,850 --> 01:00:55,850 thank you. How's it going? Richard 488 01:01:05,770 --> 01:01:05,770 brooks 43 dianne place. I believe a new neighborhood was already approved in the back of Charlestown. 489 01:01:14,290 --> 01:01:14,290 it's 140 houses. So I would just like to know if the engineering for this neighborhood Took that into account. 490 01:01:22,330 --> 01:01:22,330 and plus, that's 140 more homes with kids, might have kids that could put more on the School system. 491 01:01:29,810 --> 01:01:29,810 so. Excuse me. That's all. Thanks. Thank you. 492 01:01:37,850 --> 01:01:37,850 this is the public hearing for 2025-1-maj. Anyone else? 493 01:01:42,970 --> 01:01:42,970 remember, you can only speak once, ma'am, on behalf of another property owner. 494 01:01:47,530 --> 01:01:47,530 is that okay? Quickly. Yes, please. If you give me their name and address, Please. 495 01:01:53,890 --> 01:01:53,890 yes. I'm speaking for chad and nell thibodaux at 270 janet drive. 496 01:01:58,250 --> 01:01:58,250 they are the very last house on janet. The pasture drains into a servitude property right There, 497 01:02:06,290 --> 01:02:10,050 and they will. Just wanted me to mention how much their land is caving in. And, I mean, if you'd go ride back there, you can see it's just falling into the ditch Every time the rain waters come through. 498 01:02:17,250 --> 01:02:19,730 and that's just a concern they wanted to bring up. Thank you. You're welcome. Hi. My name is diane wyatt. 499 01:02:27,130 --> 01:02:30,330 I'm the original owner of my house at 259 janet drive. So I've been there for over 40 years. Everybody summarized all this pretty well. 500 01:02:35,290 --> 01:02:35,290 my question is, can we have an opportunity to make a list of questions and concerns that The residents have, 501 01:02:42,090 --> 01:02:42,090 and have those specific questions and concerns answered with honesty? 502 01:02:46,810 --> 01:02:50,730 I mean, like in writing answers. What about the lift station? What about the retention pond? How high are these houses going to be built? 503 01:02:55,490 --> 01:02:55,490 you know what the impact is going to be on our school system. We have a lot of questions That I don't want to hear generalizations of, oh, we're going to do this, and that's going 504 01:03:02,170 --> 01:03:02,170 to happen and it's going to be okay. I want specific answers to specific questions, And I think that we should be able to submit questions and get answers before this is 505 01:03:11,610 --> 01:03:14,970 decided on. I think that's a reasonable request. Sure, sure. There's no formal process for that. 506 01:03:18,090 --> 01:03:18,090 well, can we. Unless, unless. Request it. You can, You can request it. 507 01:03:22,290 --> 01:03:22,290 but unless the applicant has a town hall or something and invites the residents, There's no formal process outside of one. 508 01:03:29,010 --> 01:03:29,010 this public hearing. If this were to proceed forward and be passed the night, It would go to the parish council, 509 01:03:35,290 --> 01:03:38,890 in which you would have another opportunity to ask questions. In between those two events, you could reach out to your council person, Ask those questions. 510 01:03:43,650 --> 01:03:43,650 I mean, she's not going to have the answers I want the answers about what is this sewer Lift station? 511 01:03:48,490 --> 01:03:48,490 sure. Specifically. Yeah. And I think we'll talk through some of those after, Once the applicant comes back up to get at least some of those answers. 512 01:03:55,303 --> 01:03:59,170 are going to have the chance to ask other questions after he speaks? No, Not tonight. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Any further questions, Comments? 513 01:04:10,890 --> 01:04:13,650 I'm walter pilie. I live on ducayet drive in destrehan. And so obviously this isn't my district. However, I have been kind of a champion when it comes to drainage issues around the parish at the 514 01:04:21,530 --> 01:04:21,530 request of some of the other council people. Miss o'daniels will call me up when they have A severe rain. 515 01:04:27,290 --> 01:04:30,890 I've been out there when they. When they have one in her district. Last year I saw one such as that. What you have there is a little unique. 516 01:04:35,610 --> 01:04:35,610 you've got a pump station on the other side of the railroad tracks, Which is in essence, a levee. 517 01:04:41,090 --> 01:04:41,090 and you've got three culverts that cross over there, And that's all you got to get this water out. 518 01:04:45,450 --> 01:04:45,450 and these people are having to get water out through a 27 to 36 and a 42. 519 01:04:51,010 --> 01:04:51,010 that ditch is a little deeper, but it goes from like a one foot to a -2.5. 520 01:04:55,930 --> 01:04:55,930 so it has some capacity to hold fluid. However, The drainage impact analysis is counting on a detention pond, 521 01:05:04,490 --> 01:05:08,400 and I believe in those things if you do it right, I'm just not sure if you're doing it right. If you want to pass this around. This is a sketch of what's stated in the dia. 522 01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:13,680 so I will say this. I'm not going to try to refute what the science is in the drainage Impact analysis, 523 01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:21,840 but I talk to somebody who can, and it's a person who teaches hydrology. 524 01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:26,040 and the question popped up, and it's exactly what you see on this little sketch. 525 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:30,960 looks like a pretty big pipe. So you're not really holding things back and trying to store The fluid. 526 01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:35,840 so the whole idea is to keep that water contained and not going into the ditch to those Culverts any greater than what they have today. 527 01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:44,560 and there is a flaw, too, because what they have today can't get the water across the the Railroad tracks with the size of the culverts. 528 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,680 and that's a common problem around this parish. We're putting in jackson bores over there where I live in destrehan. 360 and 254. 529 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,360 what you have here is not much. I've been over there. I've seen where the water can recycle from the swamp right back into the inlet of the Pumps. 530 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:08,400 now they're working on that, but until they put some automated sluice gates and they've Got some gates over there at the swamp. 531 01:06:14,640 --> 01:06:14,640 if you get a hurricane and that swamp starts rising, The water comes back and all you're doing is circulating it. 532 01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:20,800 so I'm warning you guys to understand what we have and what we don't have, Right. 533 01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:27,880 and all the science put aside. And I suggest that the company who's done this dia, And I'm not trying to diss them, 534 01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:34,080 ought to get together with this person who I know who can critique this and try to make Sure we're getting this right, 535 01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:39,880 if that's what we're going to do. But good lord, We need to look at the crossover conveyance through the railroad tracks before you do 536 01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:47,520 anything. Because if all you're doing is limiting the flow that goes into this subdivision Through this detention pond to what they already have, 537 01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,360 we already have a problem. And really, that's all I have to say. Thank you. Thank you. Mr. Pilie. Good evening. 538 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:11,160 my name is michelle o'daniels and I'm the councilperson for this district. And mr. Pilie addressed some of the technicalities of the drainage situation. 539 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:16,640 but I'd like to address the major subdivision ordinance where we are today and what kind Of input the, 540 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,040 you know what all you're asked to do tonight. So the major subdivision ordinance was a major debate amongst the council before I was Seated. 541 01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:34,320 and they indicated during the hearing that one of the problems was is they felt like there Wasn't enough opportunity for public comment and feedback. 542 01:07:42,440 --> 01:07:45,240 so we're seeing that here tonight. We have a lot of questions. We may or may not get our answers tonight. Either way, President jewell commented that with the new major subdivision ordinance, 543 01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:51,960 we'd have more information, facts versus fear to determine whether or not this is a good Or a bad deal. 544 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:03,360 well, I think it's a bad deal, and this is why I think it's a bad deal. It's a bad deal for the parish, because the parish gets put in a position where we can't Provide or not providing basic infrastructure to its residents. 545 01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:12,560 it's a bad deal for the current residents who we have here that expressed why it's a bad Deal for them. 546 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:18,800 it's a bad deal for the prospective residents, Who are not going to know that they're going to walk into a situation where a lot of their 547 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:25,800 basic infrastructure is being privatized. So five, Ten years down the road, all of a sudden they'd be like, 548 01:08:32,440 --> 01:08:35,200 we need to maintain this. We don't have the money to maintain it. They'll turn to the parish and guess what? They'll be told the parish can't touch it. 549 01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,240 let me give you some examples of what we have in st. Rose now, from these bad decisions made in the past, Mostly in the 1970s. 550 01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:47,920 I thought we were past all these things. Although sometimes growth is an inspiration to do Crazy stuff, 551 01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:54,720 like it was back in the 70s when we had the big housing boom. 552 01:08:58,960 --> 01:08:58,960 let's talk about fairfield. Fairfield had a private sewer system. 553 01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:03,640 the actual sewer lines going to that system were never dedicated to the parish. 554 01:09:08,480 --> 01:09:08,480 so we have residents that have backup a sewer and the parish says, So sorry, it's private. 555 01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:14,840 we have charleston, who has fire hydrants, that these good people trying to stop fires go To, 556 01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:22,840 and the fire hydrants are empty. So sorry you no longer have your condo. 557 01:09:28,480 --> 01:09:31,480 but we can't do anything as a parish because we don't own it. It was privatized. Most recently, riverwood has a private road and they also have some Private drainage, 558 01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:39,840 a swale ditch. Well, individual homeowners decided, I don't like the way it looks. 559 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,760 let me adjust it. Let me do this. Let me do that. 20 years later, they have a drainage problem. 560 01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:49,240 so sorry you got to spend $25,000 to do it yourself. 561 01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:53,400 riverwood could probably afford it. The people that are going to be moving into this house Are going to be spending a lot of money. 562 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:00,080 probably everything. They have to get into their first home only to be told so. 563 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:05,200 sorry the parish can't help you. You don't deserve the infrastructure everybody else has. 564 01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:13,880 it's not fair. It's a bad deal. It's a bad deal for everyone. I'm 100% opposed to the plan as it stands today. 565 01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:18,000 in addition to all of the drainage information and evidence you heard tonight. 566 01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:22,720 thank you. Thank you. Anyone else has kind of a last 567 01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:32,400 call? If you please approach the podium name and address for the record, Please. 568 01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:37,160 my name is melissa van tanaka. I live at 224 riverview drive. 569 01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:41,600 I'm not in dianne place. I feel like one thing is, This is being very sneaky. 570 01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:51,720 I never knew anything about it. I went to lunch with a friend of mine today. She was coming here. I said I would come with you. 571 01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:55,600 I also. I live in riverview. You. There's charlestown, Riverview, nar none, and dianne. 572 01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:02,560 we all four got to get out the same way. We all have to go either one street or one Street. 573 01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:08,960 how you got at least 5 or 700 houses back up in there. 574 01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:13,160 if it's a catastrophe happened and we have to get out, What are we going to do? 575 01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:21,160 what if they the school busses have to get in? What are we going to do? I've lived on riverview for 40 something years. 576 01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:25,240 I have they had fires down there. To where? We cannot go down the street or we cannot Leave. 577 01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:30,720 we're stuck because of those fire engines. I mean, It's ridiculous. 578 01:11:35,960 --> 01:11:35,960 I know everybody's talking about the flooding, Which luckily, thank god, I have never flooded. 579 01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:41,680 but for, you know, the traffic, the traffic is going to be unbearable because how is those Four subdivisions going to get out with all of those 580 01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:51,280 houses, if all of a sudden they tell us, when I was here, I don't know what hurricane it was, 581 01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:57,240 but they told me to evacuate my house. I had a fit because I've never been told to leave My house before. 582 01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:03,960 I was only 30 years old at that time. I was never told, Leave the house. 583 01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:08,000 what are we going to do if tests say y'all have to be out in an hour or two, Where is everybody going to go? 584 01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:14,000 we're going to be stuck. We're not going to be able to go anywhere. 585 01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:21,840 you know, can trucks come back to pick us up? No, because they're not going to be able to make it down the streets. They're not going to Be able to turn around. I don't know. 586 01:12:27,480 --> 01:12:27,480 but I know on riverview, in order to turn around, You got to go up and turn around. 587 01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,640 you can't. I mean, there's no way to get out of there. That's only we only got one way out and one way in. 588 01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:39,280 that's all I need to say. Thank you. Last call for public comments for 589 01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:48,120 2025-1-maj. Thank you. Thank you everyone. At this time, We'll close the public hearing for 590 01:12:56,440 --> 01:12:56,440 2025-1-maj. Mr., I think it's bloss. Do you want to come back up and try to answer some of These questions? 591 01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:04,640 and I have a few as well. Can you finish? Yeah. 592 01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:09,320 so I guess hearing the feedback, I think it'd be best to have a town hall with everyone. 593 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:17,000 I've heard just different say, misconceptions are kind of questions that I think we can Answer in that setting. 594 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:28,520 so we'd like to withdraw and schedule a town hall meeting, So. Okay. Yep. Thank you. Thank you. I guess some some questions before. 595 01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,520 before you depart. I can answer whatever you like. Yeah. So, so I have lots of questions about the privatizing of the sewer. 596 01:13:40,120 --> 01:13:43,760 and it would be good if, as part of that town hall, You can answer some of that. Absolutely. What specification do you use? Do they match the parish. 597 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:47,640 so if you. It says in the wastewater document that at some point it would be handed over To the parish, 598 01:13:55,230 --> 01:13:57,430 but it wouldn't be privately treated. It would be. Once the so that the parish is in the process of upgrading the sewer main that runs along The railroad there. 599 01:14:04,270 --> 01:14:04,270 and I guess I don't know if anyone from public works is here can speak to that timeline, But it would happen within the next 18 to 24 months. 600 01:14:11,350 --> 01:14:11,350 at that time it would be. Excuse me. I guess at that time it would, Once that, that would be 601 01:14:21,270 --> 01:14:21,270 once phase two was constructed, the private treatment would be abandoned and it would be Pumped into the public system at that point. 602 01:14:31,030 --> 01:14:31,030 so you would follow us parish specifications or sizing so that it would be compatible? 603 01:14:35,390 --> 01:14:35,390 absolutely. It would all be designed to where the, Once that force main was at capacity, right. 604 01:14:41,910 --> 01:14:41,910 and it could accept the additional flow. The new force main would just be tied. 605 01:14:46,470 --> 01:14:48,910 the pumps would be upgraded in the lift station. It would be pumped to that that new force band. That's right. Okay. 606 01:14:52,430 --> 01:14:55,670 and I guess the second part of that plans change. So I get that it's planned to connect in at some point, But if not, have you done developments like this before where the sewer system is private 607 01:15:04,830 --> 01:15:04,830 and part of the issue? Yeah, I've, I've done developments all across the gulf coast and This is extremely common so. 608 01:15:10,310 --> 01:15:10,310 for privatized sewer. Absolutely. Yes. And I guess the only other question that I Personally have is the elevation. 609 01:15:17,950 --> 01:15:17,950 do you know what that looks like in comparison to the neighboring subdivision? 610 01:15:22,510 --> 01:15:22,510 yeah. So I mean, there again, a portion of this site is within a floodplain in the rear of The site. 611 01:15:28,430 --> 01:15:28,430 so the parish ordinance requires you to mitigate for floodplain, Right. 612 01:15:32,590 --> 01:15:32,590 so that's going to take place. Actually an increase in floodplain volume would take place With the with the construction of the pond in the back, 613 01:15:39,430 --> 01:15:39,430 right. So but, I mean, the grades would vary, Right, because the site is high in the front at the road, 614 01:15:46,110 --> 01:15:46,110 right and low in the rear. So, I mean, it basically varies from. 615 01:15:50,670 --> 01:15:53,350 I think it's up around maybe 12 or 13 in the front. Forget the exact numbers, but it slopes down at the back of the pond and think the top Bank of the pond is at like seven. 616 01:15:58,950 --> 01:15:58,950 so you would vary between 7 and 13, right? So and you know, The stormwater management pond itself is going to reduce the 617 01:16:08,830 --> 01:16:08,830 flow that leaves the site by 33%, so. And add additional floodplain storage, So. 618 01:16:15,710 --> 01:16:15,710 but again, I think at the town hall we can kind of walk through all these numbers and show Kind of where everything would flow, 619 01:16:22,990 --> 01:16:22,990 what it would tie into, what the existing conditions are, What the proposed conditions are. 620 01:16:28,710 --> 01:16:28,710 I'm not opposed to moving the lift station to the other side of the development, Away from the adjacent neighborhood there, 621 01:16:36,990 --> 01:16:36,990 but it's still in the interim, it's going to discharge into the pond right until it's Extended and ties into the actual force mat. 622 01:16:44,910 --> 01:16:47,630 yeah, but I don't mind moving it away from people's home. It can be flipped. And that would help with. I mean, Typically there's not much of a, under their they're not going to believe me, 623 01:16:55,790 --> 01:16:58,230 but, you know, if it's properly maintained, right. Which it would be a large company that does this all across the state that maintains these Things, 624 01:17:06,510 --> 01:17:09,790 which is extremely common, that that's what they do, Right? Okay. Yep. Thank you. Anything else? Any questions from commissioners? 625 01:17:14,830 --> 01:17:14,830 yes. Is that being maintained? Who? Parish isn't ready for it. 626 01:17:21,030 --> 01:17:21,030 who pick up that cost, the hoa? Yeah. So, that's right, The hoa would. 627 01:17:26,750 --> 01:17:26,750 well it's going to be a builder. I mean there's going to be a builder that's going to Purchase all these lots once it's sold. Right. So they would maintain it until it would 628 01:17:33,390 --> 01:17:33,390 transfer to the hoa. At that point there would be maintained by the same company. 629 01:17:38,990 --> 01:17:41,230 it would just be transferred, that ownership. Like the hoa itself is not doing the maintenance, It's going to be the company that they're going to hire that does this, 630 01:17:47,550 --> 01:17:51,430 that maintains lift stations and treatment plants. Which again, they do this all over. I mean, this is extremely common. 631 01:17:55,550 --> 01:17:55,550 so thank you. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So my background is in real estate. 632 01:18:05,590 --> 01:18:05,590 I'm a real estate broker. I've worked in construction. 633 01:18:09,710 --> 01:18:09,710 I've been involved in developments all across southeast louisiana. 634 01:18:14,550 --> 01:18:14,550 and so from a personal perspective, I'm all about, You know, let's develop and build houses and let me sell them and, 635 01:18:23,710 --> 01:18:23,710 you know, those kind of things. But st. Charles parish has had issues all over with, With flooding and drainage 636 01:18:33,270 --> 01:18:33,270 and, and I personally have family and friends that, That live in, dianne place. 637 01:18:39,270 --> 01:18:39,270 I've actually been there when you just have a quick afternoon shower and the street fills Up with water. 638 01:18:44,910 --> 01:18:44,910 so I can certainly understand the perspective of the residents here. 639 01:18:49,030 --> 01:18:49,030 I'm pleased that you're withdrawing this evening. 640 01:18:53,190 --> 01:18:53,190 because I think that a lot of issues can be addressed because I've been in the development Side of things through town halls and communicating with people, 641 01:19:01,670 --> 01:19:01,670 and then maybe revising plans to understand true issues that are on the ground that maybe Weren't realized in the initial 642 01:19:11,270 --> 01:19:11,270 development plan. So, yeah work with the residents who have been there 30 or 40 years that Understand this is what takes place on a daily basis, 643 01:19:21,110 --> 01:19:21,110 because I literally have been at both the front and the back, At the 50 block of dianne and the 250 block of janet drive. 644 01:19:30,750 --> 01:19:30,750 and I've seen the water and it comes up quick and it comes from that back field, And it is a problem that needs to be addressed before we develop 645 01:19:40,590 --> 01:19:40,590 further. Look, I'm all for new houses, shiny new things that I can sell in this in this Parish. 646 01:19:46,110 --> 01:19:46,110 I love staying at home. I mean, a lot of my work now is on the north shore, So it would be great to have a new development, 647 01:19:52,230 --> 01:19:55,190 but we got to do it responsibly. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Any further questions? I could ask a whole lot of questions, But I live on that ditch. 648 01:20:03,230 --> 01:20:03,230 and I know that we have a subdivision that we approved that has not come up yet. 649 01:20:09,870 --> 01:20:09,870 so whether or not has been taken into consideration, We don't know how those two things will mesh. 650 01:20:15,430 --> 01:20:15,430 but with that said, I will make a motion. I'll second. 651 01:20:21,665 --> 01:20:21,665 a motion by mr. Price, second by mr. Jay. And just some encouragement. 652 01:20:27,990 --> 01:20:27,990 the minutes of this should be published in a few weeks and online. Good source for Questions and answers. 653 01:20:32,790 --> 01:20:32,790 so if you can maybe pick back a peek at that for the tempo for the town hall, That'd be great. 654 01:20:37,230 --> 01:20:37,230 absolutely. Yeah. Thank you. All those in favor of postponement? 655 01:20:42,430 --> 01:20:42,430 I'm sorry. Withdrawal. Sorry. Withdrawal. Waiting on me. 656 01:20:50,950 --> 01:20:50,950 and that passes unanimously. And so town hall will be up to the applicant encourage you to Work with mr. 657 01:20:59,790 --> 01:20:59,790 daniels on that, and then there will be a resubmission if decided and a new public hearing For that. 658 01:21:09,390 --> 01:21:12,470 thank you, everyone. We know about the town hall. Are we going to be notified as residents? Well make sure that happens through the council Member, 659 01:21:17,510 --> 01:21:17,510 council person for your district. Yeah. We don't have a formal process for notification For a town hall, 660 01:21:24,430 --> 01:21:24,430 but we'll try to see if we can get the council person to help with that. 661 01:21:28,950 --> 01:21:32,550 yeah. If it sounds like it's going to be privately sponsored town hall. So the council won't be doing the advertisement, It'll be on the applicant to make. 662 01:21:36,430 --> 01:21:36,430 the applicant. It'll be on the applicant, basically to reach out to the residents. 663 01:21:45,910 --> 01:21:45,910 thank you very much. I appreciate you having us. 664 01:21:50,350 --> 01:21:50,350 give everybody a minute or two to exit. Marty, We need to approve these as well? 665 01:22:13,550 --> 01:22:13,550 all done. Oh. 666 01:22:24,470 --> 01:22:24,470 thank you. They're not going to. We're not going to get. 667 01:22:29,710 --> 01:22:29,710 it's one way to clear the room, everybody. 668 01:22:46,180 --> 01:22:50,140 we can't tell what you know about us. Not in the throat. Sir, do you mind closing that. Got it. Thank you. 669 01:22:53,780 --> 01:22:53,780 it's got it, got it. Oh. Thank you. Paul. 670 01:23:06,340 --> 01:23:06,340 yeah. All right. Thank you. That's the end of the agenda items. 671 01:23:12,260 --> 01:23:12,260 any old business? Yes, sir. Oh, any new business? 672 01:23:16,940 --> 01:23:16,940 go ahead. Marty. Thanks. Mr. Chair, I just wanted to thank the commission for stepping up At your last meeting to serve as the interim coastal zone advisory committee. 673 01:23:27,580 --> 01:23:27,580 the parish council adopted the ordinance amendments that you guys recommended approval of. 674 01:23:33,740 --> 01:23:33,740 so thank you for that. That sets up a coastal zone advisory committee of seven members to Start up with staggered terms, 675 01:23:42,700 --> 01:23:42,700 we're excited about them being set up for success. 676 01:23:46,980 --> 01:23:46,980 and the council also announced all of the vacancies for those positions. 677 01:23:53,780 --> 01:23:53,780 nominations will start hopefully at their next meeting, Which means we could have a coastal zone advisory committee seated, 678 01:24:02,860 --> 01:24:02,860 maybe even before y'all's next meeting. But be that as it may, I've got your minutes from the work that you did at your last meeting, 679 01:24:13,020 --> 01:24:13,020 and we'll have to advertise y'all as the coastal zone advisory committee one more time Just to approve those minutes and get those over to the new 680 01:24:22,580 --> 01:24:22,580 committee. Thank you. So, I guess new news, old news, Michael, so is 681 01:24:32,300 --> 01:24:32,300 there a amendment to the major subdivision ordinance in progress right now? 682 01:24:37,580 --> 01:24:37,580 no, sir. No. There's nothing. She was speaking about the large amendment we did in 2020. 683 01:24:43,180 --> 01:24:43,180 yeah. Okay. Where we front. Like, we front loaded a bunch of information into the Preliminary plat phase. 684 01:24:51,700 --> 01:24:51,700 like you were able to read reports and things from the directors that had been submitted. 685 01:24:57,580 --> 01:25:00,900 like, you didn't have those. Right. Prior to that amendment, So. Yeah. Yeah. What would it take if we were to request some representation from waterworks, Wastewater to be here? 686 01:25:09,540 --> 01:25:09,540 required them to send a representative for these types of major subdivisions so that we Can do a better job of answering questions. 687 01:25:18,140 --> 01:25:18,140 I can try and arrange that. Yeah. It would be nice to see that be formal, Where it's a requirement, 688 01:25:25,100 --> 01:25:25,100 not just a request. I agree, yeah. And I don't know that we need the full board, But we do need obviously for wastewater, 689 01:25:33,020 --> 01:25:33,020 for drainage. Public works would be helpful, At least for just the major subdivisions. 690 01:25:39,060 --> 01:25:42,620 I will look into that for you and try and get that to happen. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. It's hard. Hard for us to answer those questions, And I know. 691 01:25:50,540 --> 01:25:50,540 certainly. Okay. Have a motion to approve the minutes from the july 10th, 2025, planning board of commissioners meeting. 692 01:26:00,420 --> 01:26:00,420 mr. Price. Mr. Frangella. 693 01:26:15,460 --> 01:26:15,460 and that passes with petit and jay abstaining since they were both absent. 694 01:26:21,020 --> 01:26:21,020 anything else? Motion to adjourn. Motion. Second. 695 01:26:27,020 --> 01:26:27,020 vice president.