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Are we ready to get started today,

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y'all? Think

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» John make sure it's on.

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» Okay. All we got to do is put them on

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our phones. [snorts]

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There it is. Right up there.

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Okay, we'll get started today. Uh

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this uh this is a work session. We made

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some changes in the regular uh

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dates that we were going to meet because

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of conference last week. Uh and so we

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have wanted to be sure we had plenty of

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time to uh to prepare our agenda for

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today's meeting. So we changed the

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meeting. So we went ahead and changed

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today's work session also. So we're

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going to have the work session first and

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our work session we will uh set up the

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agenda then for incoming meeting. So we

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get through and that's the format you

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kind of got. So it'll take us a few

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minutes when we get through the work

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session to transition in. But I don't

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think it'll take us that long in the

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work session. What'll probably take some

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time will be after we get through with

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all that, we're going into a actual

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budget budget meeting to try to finalize

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our budget. And uh we're required by law

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to have that budget uh in the box and

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approved by October 1. So, we've got

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plenty time. We haven't got into

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September yet, so we can we can do quite

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a few things between now and then. Uh

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and every time I get a report from you,

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Michelle, it's got more money in it. How

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you how you doing that? Just just good.

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» I'm finding way I'm finding ways

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to get

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» Money around.

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» I learned some stuff down at that

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conference. I say to get us another

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about 375,000 to go back general fund.

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» We're going to pull it from somewhere

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else.

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» Y'all could save money by just asking

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Commissioner Parker to only go to that

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trumper once every three years. Comes

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back with too many ideas every time that

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he goes. But we'll get we'll get started

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in that. And uh the first thing that

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we'll try to do is to go through the

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engineers report work session and he'll

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give us an update on what he's got going

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on. And if you have anything in your

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districts or whatever to put on his

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plate, this would be a good time to do

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it. So uh county engineer Clay, I don't

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think he want to see me. I spent a whole

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day with him Monday.

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» Oh, you spent a You spent a week with

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Ricky last Monday

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to him every day at the conference.

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[clears throat]

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» Yeah.

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Yeah, we figured out ways to spend money

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for Monday.

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» Um,

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okay. Everybody ready?

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» Yep.

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» All right, go for it.

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» Number one, update on crews and

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projects. uh paving crew has been paving

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on Pine Pine Mountain area of the county

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and uh Monday they're moving over to the

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cut over road and in Shaw Creek uh

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paving that

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» Are they about through on this end

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» This end of the county?

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» Yes,

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» We're just now starting the tar and

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gravel part.

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» Okay, that's right. You did some other

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» Yeah, we'll we'll do that until the

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paving season's over to or till we're

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» Finish paving all we got prepped for

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» Things there for Katrina.

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» Yes, sir.

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» Got to give her one more.

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[clears throat]

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» Okay. Um base crew, they finished the K

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Creek Road project preparation work. Um

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and speaking of the HR 5826 250, when I

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was at the conference, I I found out

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that u that project has been backed up

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to the December the 5th letting.

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» It won't be let in September 25th u like

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originally scheduled. So they're

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basically going to use next FY funds.

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That's what that's about.

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» And that's for your trip projects.

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» Yes, that was

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» That probably won't be a big issue

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because of uh you've got other projects

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working try to get them in this year

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anyway. We only got so many contractors.

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» That's that's

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probably running out of people to do

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them anyway.

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» That's true. That's true. Um

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and also uh September the 8th. Around

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September the 8th, we're scheduled our

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base crew to start on the Evergreen

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cover replacement project. That's a

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covert that US Fish and Wildlife because

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of TR Park Daughters. They're going to

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pay for the cover material and

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contractor put it in. We just got to do

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the prep pre-prep work for the project

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and do the road bed, get it back open

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afterwards. It's be second Now, we've

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done that. We did the first one on B

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Circle. So, I think it's it's a win-win

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for the county.

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[clears throat] Uh the next uh item is

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uh the U Sy Road uh

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a trip to uh 582

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Uh the dense grade base and paving.

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That's what uh the project is up to have

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needing that to be done. And uh Alabama

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Grading is the prime on it. And they

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also have a a a paving machine and

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everything. And they are doing the the

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dense grade and paving work for that

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project. And they're scheduled to begin

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uh next week, the September the 1, the

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week of September the 1st.

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» That's an ARIR project.

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» Yes. Yes, sir.

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» It's the county's uh it's one of the

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counties at projects that we sponsored.

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» Also, next is the Moody atrip uh two

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project dealing with the traffic lights

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at two different uh intersections and

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that project is scheduled to be let uh

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to bid September 25th, 2026.

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And then our CMAC, I apologize. The CMAC

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project is the Sandy Road US411

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intersection project. It's scheduled for

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a right now it's scheduled for a June

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2027 leting.

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» You got to be kidding me. Uh well maybe

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it'll it'll speed up but here's the the

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caveats with that is uh the

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environmental technical service of ALDOT

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they have to come up and approve the uh

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the beaver removal uh dewatering uh

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process which involved removing beaver

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dams and relocating beavers.

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once they uh once they approve

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uh approve that then uh they'll give the

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Old utilities the go ahead to get the

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water line relocated.

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» Does anybody see a trend here? You got

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the dry spot darters

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and relocating the beavers. So this

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project should have been let be as two

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years ago. I saw a murder of crows on

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the way here. We got any kind of

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protection on those yet?

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That's a murder.

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» Clay, are there any other animals in

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your report today

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» That were Hey, tell them Clay that's

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that ain't only the problem we had right

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there about beavers. What was the other

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that held us up for all that long time?

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» Oh, yeah. Right away is

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» No that there was something else held us

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up had to do with birds or plants or

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» In there. A leather flower there.

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» I forget what it was. Something else in

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there we had held us up. Then core

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engineer got involved and core engineers

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kept it tied up till here a few months

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ago and they finally released it to him.

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» Consider the water the wetland and

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» We had to pay the guy who owns that

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property. We had to pay him to so we

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could go out there and tear the beaver

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downs

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» And relocate them

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» And relocate

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» The dams.

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» And we had to pay and we had to pay the

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guy to go out there and do that by hand.

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» Isn't there something extension service?

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We Ashley's come in here. There's

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something extension service can do about

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these beavers.

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» Probably not.

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We don't do [laughter]

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we can't help with that. Sorry.

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» Can you carry some over Taliga County?

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» Yes. Take them over there.

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» Anyway, we'll be glad when the Sy 411

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project is complete.

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Let's get it done before we find any

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more animals.

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» Yeah.

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No more nonhuman animals involved in the

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rest of the proports

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and probably bats held us up.

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» They got the they had the grey nose

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disease or something.

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» Okay. Item number two disc um discuss.

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We'll have a recommendations for uh road

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workers. Uh the road worker one

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positions. We have six that are open and

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and uh in just a little bit I'll

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recommend four of the positions to be

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filled and uh the job is posted uh until

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filled until those six positions are

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filled. So, we'll we'll continue to uh

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to interview until uh till we get those

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[snorts] all field recommended to the

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All right. Um,

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moving on to number three is uh um just

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to let y'all know that I I have

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Jennifer with HR uh at my request posted

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uh for the general labor position uh at

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our office. We have uh two that's

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available and I'm going to fill one of

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them uh within the next couple weeks.

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Hopefully we recommend y'all someone uh

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September 8th commission meeting.

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All right. Number four. Uh

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would like to discuss a request for St.

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Clair County to abandon rightway at the

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end of Hurst Road in the Odinville area.

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Um, I've received the uh

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a couple years ago I got a request from

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one of the property owners along

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adjacent to that rideway and um during

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the conference I got request from the

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other uh property owner adjacent to that

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rideway. There's only two so I won't

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have to send out letters to anyone else

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uh letting them know about it. But um so

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I'd like to u

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get permission to move forward on the

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abandonment of the rideway and and I'll

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coordinate with Tina and uh and Mr. Kurt

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church go down. It goes out there in

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dead end.

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» Yeah.

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» Situation out there is what it is. This

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happened years ago.

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» The road goes down there in dead end.

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There's two houses out there. Our

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rideway

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half the road out there. He owns it. We

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only own half of that road and to the

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left of it. We got a ditch.

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And he's [snorts] got an issue with

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people keeps driving out there to his

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house during the night time. Think it's

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a parking place to come out there and

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park. the other lake out there. They

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come out there and they park up there on

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his on his property.

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» He's going he's going to put a gate up

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keep that and only way he can do that if

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we just go ahead and vacate that little

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bit of portion right away we got in

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here. Well, we have a similar problem. I

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think it's in your district off 144

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where we actually went out and did a

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road all the way to the end of the road

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and the guy now is complaining that that

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from somewhere where they've got a pipe

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out there, not the counties. You know

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what I'm talking about.

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Anyway,

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I'll get with you on that one. He says

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the end of that road was never dedicated

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to county. It was just done.

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» So,

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» Just down there,

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» Reverend Jordan,

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» We was going to put a we going to put a

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color sack down there right before that.

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We had where buses could turn around and

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yard trucks, but we only got one of the

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property owners who to give us

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permission. The other wouldn't. So, we

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best do like what we're talking about

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doing just vacate that let him put a

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gate up keep people from coming out

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there on his property.

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» So we'll have to advertise for 30 days

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public public meeting for 30 days and

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then we'll

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give y'all an opportunity to hear about

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it and then give an opportunity to uh to

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agree or disagree and then we'll have to

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advertise after that that the has been

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abandoned. That has been abandoned.

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Okay. Um number five, uh discuss

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approving an easement from Alabama Power

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Company allowing Alabama Power Company

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to provide power to the new uh SWAT

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building on the road department campus.

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And I've got that easement.

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They going

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down the side of your road to a pole and

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then underground to the building across

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the parking lot or what?

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» Yes,

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» There's an there's a pole on one of our

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drives that goes to our co-mix. There's

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already a pole there. They're going to

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span over to another pole on the right

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side of that drive. Then they're going

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to go underground as I understand uh to

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to the structure.

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That's what they're doing. Good.

335
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Did they give a cost to that? What's

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going to cost us?

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» The easement's not going to cost

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anything. And I don't know what the

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contract

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digging from polit

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as I understand it was part of the bid

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package.

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» What about gas lines? They gonna have to

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have easement to get run the gas line

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out there too.

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» I have I'm not aware. Roy's Rodney's got

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a lot of good connections with with fire

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» People.

349
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» He didn't say nothing about needing

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right away going out through there which

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they already got a gas line up through

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there. So they already got right away.

353
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» They got a gas line up there all the way

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all the way up through there.

355
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» They good.

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» That' be one one thing we don't have to

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worry about with gas coming. There you

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go.

359
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» Except it's a half inch line and it

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won't feed a heater.

361
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I just that's what happened to my house.

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» Okay, it'll work out.

363
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» So, the the easement though is a

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standard Alabama power easement as I

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understand.

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Kurt can take a look at it if y'all

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wish.

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I got that stuff. I had a chance to look

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at.

370
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» That's that's all I have. Commissioners

371
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have any questions for Clay?

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other than the ones we put on you as we

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went down the list. You can't get any

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help out of Ashley on the beavers. I

375
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don't know what you think.

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» We can hold a trapping workshop if y'all

377
00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,920
would like

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» A trapping work.

379
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» Yeah, because we hire we hire tra.

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» I heard you put a dead beaver on top of

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the d on the house and they'll leave.

382
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» Really?

383
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» That probably would work.

384
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So dead.

385
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» We can come up with dead.

386
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» What's that? What's that? A tri

387
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» Spot dart.

388
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» Could we put them in straight to poor

389
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moose to keep it? [laughter]

390
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» Get the straight moose.

391
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» Try spot dart.

392
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» That's it.

393
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» Build a bridge with that. Maybe open it

394
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up.

395
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» They're just not being creative. These

396
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are being county government.

397
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You might want to buck our military, but

398
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don't buck what you try.

399
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Some leather flowers on the side of the

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beach at the Straits of Hormuse and drop

401
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a few tri spot darters in snails in

402
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there.

403
00:17:26,799 --> 00:17:32,400
» Few snails. That place be

404
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» All right. Enough bushy so we can be

405
00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:38,000
done by some kind of reasonable

406
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lunchtime. Uh Rody Wolf,

407
00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,919
property manager, updates on properties

408
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and projects.

409
00:17:41,919 --> 00:17:44,880
» Rody, give them good news.

410
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» Yeah, tell us buyers.

411
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» Good news. EMA operation center gas

412
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lines already stubbed up. Sitting there

413
00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:55,120
waiting.

414
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» The corner's building. It is stubbed up.

415
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Sitting there waiting.

416
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» Good.

417
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» Only thing we got to do is get Clay to

418
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fix the payment down there [laughter]

419
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so the city don't jump us. Uh, and going

420
00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:10,400
back to the SWAT thing, I talked to the,

421
00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:14,080
uh, guy that's actually doing the wiring

422
00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:16,160
out there. Uh, he had already talked to

423
00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:19,120
Alabama Fire. They're about two weeks

424
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out of them setting the pole, which

425
00:18:19,120 --> 00:18:23,840
gives him enough time because he ain't

426
00:18:20,799 --> 00:18:28,039
got the meter set yet for him to do it

427
00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:28,039
anyway. So,

428
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» And then,

429
00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:33,280
» All right.

430
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» Yeah, I was building

431
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like pretty much done.

432
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» They should be done this Saturday.

433
00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:45,280
» We've already lined up on power to

434
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there's no reason required for that. And

435
00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:50,080
we already lined up on power to

436
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hopefully show up next Wednesday to

437
00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:54,280
start their process.

438
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» I'll check what Aaron because Pat done

439
00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:05,520
this one. The spire gas down here, but

440
00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:09,200
over the one in Asheville. So, I checked

441
00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:09,840
with him and see what where they're at

442
00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,679
that gas line.

443
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:14,480
» We're in the mix on all that. The other

444
00:19:11,679 --> 00:19:17,200
one that we were uh didn't know if he's

445
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:19,280
going to have to move anything or or add

446
00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:22,480
something out here at the museum just

447
00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:24,400
building when we move the uh Aaliyah in

448
00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,559
there. Are we going to run into any kind

449
00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:28,720
of gas line power line issues over

450
00:19:26,559 --> 00:19:30,320
there? We got data lines. Has all that

451
00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:32,799
been resolved?

452
00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,480
» Got anybody? We've had line locates done

453
00:19:32,799 --> 00:19:35,039
several times and there's nothing in

454
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,760
contact.

455
00:19:35,039 --> 00:19:39,520
» Remove it some, but we we good on the

456
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,360
data lines that's going in because

457
00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,080
they'll have to change all their online

458
00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:44,000
stuff.

459
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:46,320
» I think Glenn and Emma's already been

460
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,440
over there getting everything ready for

461
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,679
it.

462
00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,679
» John and

463
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,520
official meeting about two months ago

464
00:19:55,039 --> 00:19:56,559
with them.

465
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» Yeah.

466
00:19:56,559 --> 00:20:00,799
» Oh, Clay too. What did you get the

467
00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,000
survey done up there in Ash on the lot

468
00:20:00,799 --> 00:20:04,320
in Asheville?

469
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,880
» Uh he he hadn't called me to let me know

470
00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:09,880
he's finished with it. I will call him

471
00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,880
today

472
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:18,960
» And an update on the uh

473
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:22,480
rescue squad building.

474
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:25,200
have not heard back from

475
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:26,640
not the guy that uh

476
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:29,919
actually come out and looked at the

477
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:32,960
building, but his who he reports to with

478
00:20:29,919 --> 00:20:34,559
CRS give me a call of the day and said

479
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he was going to run it on up to his

480
00:20:34,559 --> 00:20:40,559
boss. And then after that, then they

481
00:20:37,679 --> 00:20:41,919
would send the commission a letter

482
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saying what they were going to do and

483
00:20:41,919 --> 00:20:46,039
what what they were going to do.

484
00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,840
Is that just water coming in and

485
00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:53,360
wrapping back pretty much?

486
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:54,960
» Uh,

487
00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:57,120
it's another one of them situations.

488
00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:59,520
Don't you remember on the sheriff's

489
00:20:57,120 --> 00:21:01,440
admin building behind the jail? Remember

490
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,679
the 10 way the 10 come down on the one

491
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:06,159
and the other just barely stuck up under

492
00:21:03,679 --> 00:21:09,760
that building is is the same way and

493
00:21:06,159 --> 00:21:11,600
they did not put no flashing to where it

494
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:14,799
very easy for water to get blowed back

495
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:17,840
up under is what it looked like to me.

496
00:21:14,799 --> 00:21:19,679
It lasted a long time for that to just

497
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:23,120
now be a problem like that.

498
00:21:19,679 --> 00:21:24,240
» Yeah, it really did.

499
00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:26,880
» It's been a while.

500
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,640
» Yeah, long time.

501
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:30,400
» Other than that, that's what I got.

502
00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,400
Well, I guess all the other thing is I

503
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,480
got the

504
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,080
part of the project with Dan done in

505
00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,320
Asheville. I got the two fans and the

506
00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:41,600
cassette units replaced. Waiting on the

507
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:43,440
coal to come in. uh which also reminded

508
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,440
me that [clears throat] uh once that

509
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:48,960
comes in, we'll have that replaced.

510
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:50,640
They're supposed to be here this weekend

511
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:54,640
replacing the two coils that's leaking

512
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:57,919
in the children out here.

513
00:21:54,640 --> 00:22:00,559
» Everything is moving right along.

514
00:21:57,919 --> 00:22:04,600
» So, next at 7:30, you and I'll meet with

515
00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:04,600
the generator pick. Correct.

516
00:22:05,919 --> 00:22:09,440
» All right.

517
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:12,000
» Let me know.

518
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,440
Anything for me?

519
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,640
» Whenever y'all get ready to talk about

520
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,200
what we're going to do with the other

521
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,440
generator, y'all giving some thought to

522
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:23,440
that.

523
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:25,919
» The old generator. I had uh cous water

524
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:28,080
going for generator. I had them go look

525
00:22:25,919 --> 00:22:29,600
at it and uh he said ain't it ain't

526
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,000
going to be big enough for them.

527
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,440
» Wow.

528
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:35,120
» Golly, that's a big generator.

529
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:38,480
» I think that's the one that called me

530
00:22:35,120 --> 00:22:40,400
and that sort of shocked me.

531
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:42,400
He he was talking about they needed a

532
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,080
400k.

533
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:47,520
» He said they he was talking like they

534
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,799
needed like a 400k generator to run

535
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,400
their what they needed.

536
00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:52,640
» He said that there wasn't even

537
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:57,760
» That big or something.

538
00:22:52,640 --> 00:23:00,000
» He said must be run big pumps.

539
00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:02,400
» It must be something big

540
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,240
» Shot. We carry we carry it up to county

541
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,559
shop right we carry it up there and set

542
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:09,200
it up up there have to we use it hook it

543
00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:10,000
up that swap building any building clay

544
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,000
then we got up there

545
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:17,640
» That's at least close to a source for

546
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:17,640
diesel fuel since that's a day on day

547
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,799
one we [clears throat] get does as good

548
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,799
as that one

549
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,440
» All right that's all I

550
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:38,520
I just got a text from him. He may have

551
00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:38,520
gone to the wrong place.

552
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:49,000
That's what he did.

553
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,000
» Bigger 10.

554
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:55,080
» Yes, that's right. He's got

555
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:06,520
I sent him a text. So, we'll see if that

556
00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,520
works out.

557
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,679
» All righty.

558
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:14,960
Moving on to Tina, county administrator

559
00:24:11,679 --> 00:24:16,559
updates and information from Tina.

560
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:19,440
» Okay. So, I've been working with the

561
00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:22,240
staff and Kirk on the procurement cards

562
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:24,320
and the credit card policies. We're not

563
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:26,480
ready to move forward on that yet, but

564
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,480
we are working on it and we'll bring it

565
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:30,000
back up as another work session.

566
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,679
» It's going to be

567
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,679
» It's going to be a lot bigger than we

568
00:24:31,679 --> 00:24:34,720
thought. Um, but we can get through and

569
00:24:33,679 --> 00:24:36,720
I'm sure

570
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,960
» Did y'all get some information from some

571
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,720
some of those starting cross this bridge

572
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,240
while we're at the conference. You get

573
00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,480
chance to talk to some

574
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,720
» Conference.

575
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:50,320
We didn't talk to anybody there, but but

576
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:51,279
we've talked to other counties,

577
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:53,679
you know, before we went to the

578
00:24:51,279 --> 00:24:54,799
conference and we've got material from

579
00:24:53,679 --> 00:24:57,440
several counties.

580
00:24:54,799 --> 00:25:01,000
» We've got material from Baldwin County

581
00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,000
» And Lee County.

582
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,799
» Yeah.

583
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:09,200
» They've had a long time.

584
00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:10,880
» Yeah. Um that they use for maintenance

585
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,480
and stuff like that, but not for travel.

586
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,240
» We're talking about travel. Travel is a

587
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,320
different animal.

588
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:18,080
And a lot of our accounting policies are

589
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,559
going to have to be revised. And we need

590
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:22,240
all of that in place before we put the

591
00:25:20,559 --> 00:25:24,000
procurement cards.

592
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,880
» They can't go in effect 1 November

593
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,400
anyway.

594
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:30,000
» Yeah. So, we'll maybe have it by then

595
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:34,000
» And we got to make sure our software is

596
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:35,360
compatible, but we are working on it.

597
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:39,120
And [clears throat] the next item, the

598
00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:41,039
Museum of B City will host Helen Keller

599
00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:43,200
Art Show.

600
00:25:41,039 --> 00:25:46,240
The reception will open Friday,

601
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:48,720
September the 11th from 2 to 4. Museum

602
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:52,400
hours are Thursday and Friday 10 to 4.

603
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:54,960
Saturday 10 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Admissions

604
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:57,960
free. And you've got a fly in your work

605
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,960
session.

606
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:11,840
» I have any questions for Tina?

607
00:26:08,799 --> 00:26:11,840
» Thank you, Tina.

608
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:23,120
Hold on just a second. Uh, and Dave, I'm

609
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,200
appreciate you being here. Feel free to

610
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:26,960
jump in here. Believe me, at any time if

611
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,120
you if you've been thinking about some

612
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,559
of these things, especially as we work

613
00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:32,559
on things, if they say it's going to be

614
00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:35,039
something get taken care of after

615
00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:36,320
November, that's going to be something

616
00:26:35,039 --> 00:26:37,679
that'll be on your plate. So, any of

617
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,520
those if you have any comments you want

618
00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:41,440
to make, feel free to jump in there at

619
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:44,240
any time.

620
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:46,880
We'll uh we'll we'll work that out. We

621
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,960
don't want to we don't want to leave a a

622
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,880
list of things

623
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,320
that surprise you. There'll be several

624
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,480
things won't be able to be done for a

625
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:56,559
while. How you doing, uh, Judge

626
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,520
Ammeritus? You you need to address the

627
00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:58,880
commission on anything?

628
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,320
» I was just taking some orders from Kurt.

629
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,000
He had he said he needed he had

630
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:05,440
something I hadn't done

631
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:07,760
» And I'm and I'm taking care of it, Kurt.

632
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,658
Notice where notice where Kyle had has a

633
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,840
birthday today. Y'all got his birthday.

634
00:27:09,658 --> 00:27:12,080
[clears throat]

635
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:14,320
» I'm about to send him I'm about to send

636
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,440
him congratulations. So, he made another

637
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,159
year just like you.

638
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:22,000
» Amen. And that's always a good sign.

639
00:27:18,159 --> 00:27:24,723
» I'm headed to my daughter's wedding. So,

640
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,743
» Anybody have any funds that they want to

641
00:27:24,723 --> 00:27:26,743
[laughter]

642
00:27:31,679 --> 00:27:35,039
» Imagine that she'll start sending money

643
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,240
to you now.

644
00:27:35,039 --> 00:27:37,840
Yeah,

645
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,360
» She married a lawyer at Bur Foreman up

646
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,000
there. He's just new start. I mean, she

647
00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:44,320
ought to it ought to be okay.

648
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,840
» You know how lawyers are. [laughter]

649
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,840
» Congratulations on getting one off the

650
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:50,960
payroll.

651
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:53,200
» You never get them off payroll.

652
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:56,240
» Okay. Any questions now? Anything for

653
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,919
Tina? Uh

654
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,679
I'm still a little concerned about the

655
00:27:57,919 --> 00:28:01,679
procurement card question, but we'll

656
00:27:59,679 --> 00:28:05,120
talk about that. Is is there anything we

657
00:28:01,679 --> 00:28:08,000
can do quickly? let us know uh to get

658
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:09,279
that card in. I'd like I hoping we'd

659
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,520
have them in in place [clears throat]

660
00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:13,360
even for travel by October one.

661
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,360
» And we're going to try our best. It's

662
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:18,240
it's just going to be a process. Um

663
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:19,840
Okay. Um we've got so many policies and

664
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,360
Kurt might want to speak of this. We've

665
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:24,880
got so many policies

666
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:27,120
» That references the county credit card.

667
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,159
» Yeah. I mean, so there's

668
00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:30,399
» You're up next anyway.

669
00:28:28,159 --> 00:28:34,720
» I'm up next anyway. We're scooting up

670
00:28:30,399 --> 00:28:34,720
there where I'm supposed to be at.

671
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:46,880
Um so there are um

672
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:48,880
a number of policies. Um

673
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:53,600
there we go. Um there are a number of

674
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:56,880
policies that touch um credit cards that

675
00:28:53,600 --> 00:29:00,399
touch um you know the use of the credit

676
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:02,640
card. I say credit cards that's singular

677
00:29:00,399 --> 00:29:05,200
credit card. But we're moving to the

678
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:08,559
pecards and so we would just want to get

679
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:11,840
everything in one place and everything

680
00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:14,399
that touches those things all you know

681
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:16,720
calm all the tangles out and let's have

682
00:29:14,399 --> 00:29:19,919
one place we look for issues that relate

683
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:22,480
to that and it there are um a number of

684
00:29:19,919 --> 00:29:25,120
policies there's several resolutions all

685
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:28,640
that will be impacted that need to be

686
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:30,799
you know either repealed and or replaced

687
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:33,039
or you know the content moved somewhere

688
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:35,600
somewhere else. Um, so it's just going

689
00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:38,399
to be picking all of that stuff apart so

690
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:41,520
that we don't leave some something

691
00:29:38,399 --> 00:29:43,279
that's already dealt with, you know,

692
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:46,559
abandoned.

693
00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:47,279
Yeah. So,

694
00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:50,080
» A bunch

695
00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:52,080
» Because it will not cover as broadly as

696
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,600
the old credit card methods we were

697
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,559
using. Is that what we're kind of

698
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,919
finding out?

699
00:29:54,559 --> 00:30:00,880
» It it will not. No. Um, I think I

700
00:29:57,919 --> 00:30:04,000
mentioned the any of this federal money

701
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,840
we get and I'm going to assume it's uh I

702
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,600
I don't know whether it's whether it's

703
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,000
tied in with federal money we get

704
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:12,399
through uh DOT or not, but let's just

705
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,919
say the million dollars that we've got

706
00:30:12,399 --> 00:30:16,080
in appropriation for the Riverside

707
00:30:13,919 --> 00:30:18,240
Bridge that that can direct

708
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:21,279
appropriation federal money. There's a

709
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:23,279
procurement policy on the federal level

710
00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:25,600
and in fact they require states to have

711
00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:28,240
a procurement officer

712
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:30,159
and I'm not sure it be it probably good

713
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,760
for us to designate somebody as a

714
00:30:30,159 --> 00:30:32,159
procurement officer

715
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,880
» Right

716
00:30:32,159 --> 00:30:36,559
» To keep up with that and and it to me it

717
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:40,320
would be better if they if they all were

718
00:30:36,559 --> 00:30:42,080
the same rules because he he he may

719
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,559
spend some money that came from a

720
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,399
federal grant or something and spend it

721
00:30:44,559 --> 00:30:48,640
under our rules but if they're different

722
00:30:46,399 --> 00:30:51,600
from the federal procure roots, we would

723
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,360
be in trouble on how we bid it, how we

724
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,320
advertised it, all of those kind of

725
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:54,799
things.

726
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,880
» Correct.

727
00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:58,960
» So that that

728
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,960
if the commission thinks they can put it

729
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,279
all under the same umbrella as

730
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,480
requirements by the federal rules, it'll

731
00:31:03,279 --> 00:31:04,799
cover us all the way down,

732
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,480
» Right?

733
00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:07,760
» But they may be too restricted. I don't

734
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,559
I don't know how far they go.

735
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,760
» Yes, sir.

736
00:31:10,559 --> 00:31:13,520
» Quite a bit of money comes through.

737
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,000
Well, not just DOT. If we had a a

738
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:18,480
tornado, that's that that's something

739
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,320
that comes up. how we spend federal

740
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:23,120
money from FEMA and all those kind of

741
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:25,200
things just could be a surprise. And if

742
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:28,240
we're spending it like we were used to

743
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,840
and they didn't they didn't uh uh

744
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,360
correspond with the way the federal

745
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,360
government requires and we have a

746
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:36,399
problem that wasn't necessarily tied to

747
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:37,840
the old uh we pretty well know how to

748
00:31:36,399 --> 00:31:39,600
jump through the hoops. We're required

749
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:42,399
to do this this and this on federal

750
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,880
money but not if it comes off of a card.

751
00:31:42,399 --> 00:31:47,519
That's kind of got me concerned how we

752
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:50,559
do a card.

753
00:31:47,519 --> 00:31:52,640
So if it can all be matched up, to me it

754
00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:54,960
looks like it'd be simpler. Yes, it may

755
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,840
be more restrictive

756
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:59,279
than we want to if it's federal, but we

757
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,279
might not mind it being very

758
00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:02,279
restrictive,

759
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:08,000
» Right? And you know one of the things to

760
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:12,240
cons you know I think that you know the

761
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:15,600
simplest thing right now will be just to

762
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:17,440
deal with just the the procurement card

763
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,760
policy rather than a like a

764
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,640
comprehensive procurement policy across

765
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:28,320
the board that would you know

766
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:30,240
» Address everything. um just because the

767
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,640
if if it were a matter of taking some

768
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:35,679
something somebody else had done and

769
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:39,919
swapping you know X county and put St.

770
00:32:35,679 --> 00:32:41,279
clear in um you know it it could we

771
00:32:39,919 --> 00:32:43,840
could we could have something ready to

772
00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:46,080
go tomorrow but there's it's tangled up

773
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,519
in a little bit more than that like that

774
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,600
policy that that that was developed

775
00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:52,320
somewhere else was developed in the

776
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:54,080
context of whatever their history is

777
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:56,159
that brought them up to this point and

778
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,600
you know they untangled all those knots

779
00:32:56,159 --> 00:32:59,279
or presumably did

780
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,880
» Really I think the first step is the

781
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:03,200
clearing up the resolutions and the

782
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:05,600
policies that we have currently in place

783
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,919
that's step one step two may the more

784
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,640
comprehensive uh policy we have about

785
00:33:07,919 --> 00:33:09,200
procurement,

786
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,799
» Right?

787
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,159
» I think we got to do one before we do

788
00:33:10,799 --> 00:33:13,120
the other.

789
00:33:12,159 --> 00:33:14,000
» Makes sense.

790
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,919
» Yes.

791
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:19,440
» So that's that's um that's where we the

792
00:33:17,919 --> 00:33:23,519
approach we're taking on that.

793
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:27,039
» Okay. Um

794
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:31,399
so um

795
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:31,399
the um

796
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:36,080
lodging tax we worked through that and

797
00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:38,720
that's ready for

798
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:41,200
» Today.

799
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,320
» Yes sir. It is. We have that ready to go

800
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,120
today. I don't know.

801
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:48,720
» Yes. And it's on the agenda. I put it

802
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:51,120
effective December the 1st to allow our

803
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:56,159
sales tax coordinator time to get

804
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:58,399
letters out to all the hotels and motel

805
00:33:56,159 --> 00:34:02,360
if y'all are good with that. The state

806
00:33:58,399 --> 00:34:02,360
requires 60 days

807
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,960
90 days

808
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:14,159
» And to keep from having to discuss it in

809
00:34:09,919 --> 00:34:16,240
in the meeting as such. Uh

810
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:18,800
we uh

811
00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:21,963
we want to be sure that any of those

812
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,119
taxes that are passed like that

813
00:34:21,963 --> 00:34:24,639
[cough and clears throat]

814
00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:26,320
like they need to be earmarked in any

815
00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:26,960
way. This money comes directly into the

816
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,760
general fund

817
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,839
» General fund.

818
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,760
» Then the decision on how it's dispersed

819
00:34:29,839 --> 00:34:33,040
comes from whatever commission body is

820
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,839
in place.

821
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,760
» Yes.

822
00:34:35,839 --> 00:34:40,079
» So the only thing really that's changing

823
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:43,040
on that is just the the rate.

824
00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:43,040
» Correct.

825
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:51,040
Um,

826
00:34:48,240 --> 00:34:53,200
we've got a um

827
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:55,760
memorandum of understanding about the

828
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:58,800
folks from Aaliyah that are moving into

829
00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:01,359
the new Eegis building. Reviewed that,

830
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:04,079
make few little adjustments to that.

831
00:35:01,359 --> 00:35:08,240
We'll get that sent over to their

832
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:10,160
council to review and we'll get

833
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:12,160
wrinkles ironed out of that here. have

834
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:15,280
that ready to go pretty quick.

835
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:17,119
» We need to take some legal action on

836
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,400
uh I don't know what kind of hoops we

837
00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:21,040
have to jump through, but I was hoping

838
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:23,680
we could put Aaliyah's

839
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:26,640
seal on that building where it used to

840
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:28,880
say St. Clair, New Zealand

841
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:32,320
spot on the wall. [clears throat] It was

842
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:35,599
there. Uh there's an official Aaliyah

843
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:37,040
seal and I looked it up here the other

844
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:38,000
day. We

845
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,440
» Talked about it.

846
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,640
» Yes, sir. Aaliyah sent me with a sent me

847
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,599
what they're going to have on their

848
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,800
door.

849
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:46,960
» That's just on their door.

850
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:49,280
» Yes, sir. But I talked with Lind Crow.

851
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,560
He got us a quote to put it on the

852
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,280
building as well.

853
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,359
» That's good.

854
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,599
» So, that's in the works.

855
00:35:53,359 --> 00:35:57,440
» I just figured it would might be better

856
00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:59,440
to wait until closer to when they're

857
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,880
going to open over there so people won't

858
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,359
be going over there thinking they're

859
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,720
open.

860
00:36:01,359 --> 00:36:04,079
» You got a good You got a good point. And

861
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:07,680
then the other way to think about that

862
00:36:04,079 --> 00:36:10,480
is get people as used to as as as used

863
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:12,880
to it as as quickly as possible. That

864
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:16,160
that that's where Aaliyah is because one

865
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:18,400
of our problems here is [clears throat]

866
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,920
Aaliyah does a great job in what they do

867
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,480
and they're overwhelmed just like some

868
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:26,400
of the things we do. But many people

869
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:29,839
look at Aaliyah as a county agency.

870
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:32,480
» So when Aaliyah has problems then it

871
00:36:29,839 --> 00:36:35,920
it's cost the countyy's not handling

872
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:39,520
problem. So divorcing us from these

873
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:41,119
other people that's that's not ours is

874
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,440
good. You know, we've always fought for

875
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:46,880
instance the issue on who are you going

876
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:50,720
to pay for just something that simple.

877
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:52,400
So it never ends, you know. So I have an

878
00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:53,599
inclination just put signs all up and

879
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:56,720
down there. What you see in some

880
00:36:53,599 --> 00:37:00,640
counties county

881
00:36:56,720 --> 00:37:02,800
road maintenance stops here.

882
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,880
They got them all over Jackson County

883
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,200
» Because had the same issue. County road

884
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,200
maintenance stops here. It's it's from

885
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,400
here on in. It's somebody else's. I'm

886
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,480
not going to tell you whose it is, but

887
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:14,400
it's not ours.

888
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,920
» We'd have to have a thousand signs.

889
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,440
» At least we have to have at least

890
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,839
» But in this case, at least people will

891
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:21,760
get to know that's not a Slair County

892
00:37:19,839 --> 00:37:23,440
entity. That is Well, another one that

893
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,359
comes to mind, they do great work. They

894
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:27,520
do good work, but they're not ours. St.

895
00:37:25,359 --> 00:37:29,119
Clair County Health Department is not

896
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,119
ours.

897
00:37:29,119 --> 00:37:33,359
And we get calls and Corey gets called.

898
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:35,280
They get calls all the time problems

899
00:37:33,359 --> 00:37:38,240
with things that might relate to the St.

900
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:39,920
Clair County Health Department. And I I

901
00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:44,720
wish that had a big sign over it out

902
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:46,480
there, you know, state of Alabama,

903
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:48,400
» Health department, St. Clair County

904
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,720
minor chapter or something, you know,

905
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:52,000
because that's those those are bigger

906
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:53,680
issues than we think because they take

907
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:57,200
up a lot of our time trying to explain

908
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:59,920
to people the levels of government. I

909
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,280
know it's You'd think by now everybody

910
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:03,359
would know, but no, they don't. They

911
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:05,760
don't know at all.

912
00:38:03,359 --> 00:38:07,200
» Uh, so anyway, that's sooner we can put

913
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,880
a sign on that building, the sooner

914
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,240
people will start saying that's a state

915
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,680
agency that'll be moving in that

916
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:12,720
building. But I see what you're saying.

917
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,240
We don't want them going over there and

918
00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:15,359
stopping. But really, it may be all

919
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:17,200
right if they go over there and stop. At

920
00:38:15,359 --> 00:38:19,680
least they'll start parking out back.

921
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,520
» That's true.

922
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,960
» I can Lyn's got the quote. We can have

923
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,800
them go over there.

924
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,560
» I would have problem moving forward with

925
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,000
it.

926
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,760
They going to park in the back parking

927
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,160
lot, which is where we was always hoping

928
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:35,440
they'd park anyway.

929
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:37,680
» And there are set there assigned parking

930
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:38,240
places back there. Three or four people.

931
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:38,560
» Three of them.

932
00:38:38,240 --> 00:38:40,560
» Yeah,

933
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,359
» We can put their memo when they open on

934
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,839
the door as well.

935
00:38:41,359 --> 00:38:46,480
» Okay, that'd be good. Yeah,

936
00:38:43,839 --> 00:38:49,480
I'd like to see this move forward with

937
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,480
Okay.

938
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:04,320
Um, so I'm reviewing a um I'm looking at

939
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:07,119
a contract for the um community

940
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:12,000
corrections issue about the um ankle

941
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:15,119
monitors. Um it's my understanding that

942
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:17,760
the county is

943
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:20,480
identified as the customer for that. Um,

944
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:24,960
and I'm my

945
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:27,839
inference is that um that that's just

946
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:30,560
because of community corrections

947
00:39:27,839 --> 00:39:34,320
function and their um how they're

948
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:36,560
organized here in our county. Um

949
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:39,599
but anyway, I'm looking at that contract

950
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:40,880
and uh that'll be circulated here pretty

951
00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:42,160
quick. I didn't have a chance to tell

952
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,680
you, but I talked with Judge Weather

953
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:47,760
Team this morning and they're going to

954
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:51,040
have a board meeting corrections

955
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:53,839
» Next week so we can put this on another

956
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,960
work session and they're going to review

957
00:39:53,839 --> 00:39:56,160
the contract.

958
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,839
» I see. Okay.

959
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,119
» We can bring it back up at our next work

960
00:39:57,839 --> 00:40:00,800
session.

961
00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:02,720
» Okay.

962
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:06,000
um

963
00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:09,040
the um

964
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:12,079
flow forward initiative the um

965
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:16,480
requesting information from the water

966
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:17,839
correct the GIS mapping um thatou is um

967
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:21,200
I've gone back through that and I think

968
00:40:17,839 --> 00:40:24,892
that's ready to be distributed to the

969
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,892
authorities for their [clears throat]

970
00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:29,119
acceptance if they choose to

971
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,320
» Sir

972
00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:31,040
» Good luck

973
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:34,200
with that.

974
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,200
» Yes, sir.

975
00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:38,680
» They're not going to understand

976
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,359
this for years and years and years. The

977
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:46,400
engineers that they have don't want us

978
00:40:43,359 --> 00:40:49,040
to do this. They want to control who

979
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,320
knows where all those lines are.

980
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:50,880
They're on our highway,

981
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,960
» Right?

982
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:57,280
» And uh and they're agencies that we

983
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:58,480
created, most of them. Uh, so we we

984
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,079
probably need to do a lot more

985
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,680
communications to those people for them

986
00:41:00,079 --> 00:41:02,960
to know this is not a threat. We don't

987
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,119
want to tell them anybody where the

988
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:08,319
valves are located or any of that sort

989
00:41:05,119 --> 00:41:11,200
of thing. But when we do a when we do an

990
00:41:08,319 --> 00:41:13,040
application for a grant for instance,

991
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,440
uh, we have to turn in information such

992
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:17,040
as low to moderate income, the density

993
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:20,800
of low to moderate income, where they

994
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:23,200
are. uh we have to we have to do a lot

995
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:25,599
of things that if we already had that in

996
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:28,720
a box somewhere the mapping of those

997
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:30,960
lines for instance u

998
00:41:28,720 --> 00:41:33,280
that really help us move on forward

999
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,480
moving money into these systems and

1000
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,680
that's just going to be an education

1001
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:39,599
problem for a long time

1002
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:43,440
» But we are fighting against the maybe

1003
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:46,960
not a good term our our resistance I

1004
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:48,800
think comes mostly from their engineers

1005
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:51,839
they want hold on to that information

1006
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:54,400
like it's proprietary and some of it is

1007
00:41:51,839 --> 00:41:57,040
but some of it's not. So that's just

1008
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,560
going to be a long time long time thing

1009
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,560
that's something D can straighten out.

1010
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,880
It's just it's only it's only a 30-year

1011
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,720
problem. Uh [clears throat]

1012
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,880
that's that we're we're trying to map

1013
00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:11,119
where all the infrastructure is for

1014
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:12,640
water systems and uh a lot of reasons we

1015
00:42:11,119 --> 00:42:14,240
we don't have that in our mapping

1016
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,520
system. Well, our individual water

1017
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:17,599
systems are saying, "Yeah, we don't want

1018
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,040
to give that to y'all."

1019
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:20,560
Wait a minute. First of all, it's

1020
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,920
probably public record. We get it if we

1021
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,640
make it. We don't we don't want that

1022
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:26,160
kind of relationship with them. But but

1023
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,640
some of that's because they just don't

1024
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:31,359
understand. We're not trying to get it

1025
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:34,000
for any nefarious reason. We We need

1026
00:42:31,359 --> 00:42:36,160
that information for good things. But

1027
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,880
that's going to take a while to explain.

1028
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:40,480
Maybe a maybe a seminar with water

1029
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,599
systems a couple times a year or

1030
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:45,599
something like that. I don't know.

1031
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:47,280
That's something that uh Commissioner M

1032
00:42:45,599 --> 00:42:50,319
said he was going to handle.

1033
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:52,240
» Yes, I'll take care of a case point

1034
00:42:50,319 --> 00:42:53,280
would be just what we discussed last

1035
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:56,400
week. You know, we were talking about

1036
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,720
possibly crossing into cross that river.

1037
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,640
» Yeah.

1038
00:42:56,720 --> 00:43:00,560
» And we have no earthly idea where where

1039
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:03,359
we would tap,

1040
00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:05,440
you know, that would be something

1041
00:43:03,359 --> 00:43:08,400
beneficial.

1042
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:10,240
» Where to start digging?

1043
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,240
» Washington DC to ask for some grant

1044
00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:13,920
money for that. It's good to have a map

1045
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:15,839
showing where where we can cross the

1046
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,680
river to to legally tap on.

1047
00:43:15,839 --> 00:43:19,440
» And I talked to Tommy Bowers on that

1048
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,200
subject. He said power companies okay

1049
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,520
that crossing years ago. You're aware of

1050
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,119
that?

1051
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,599
» It is. Yeah. We've got a we've got an

1052
00:43:23,119 --> 00:43:26,640
approved crossing in a box, but that may

1053
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:28,480
not be one crossing.

1054
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,000
» No. No.

1055
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,720
Where that would come in handy?

1056
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,800
» Yeah.

1057
00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:34,160
» And if I get that letter, I talk to New

1058
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,839
London.

1059
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,480
» Yeah. They'll be okay with it.

1060
00:43:35,839 --> 00:43:37,280
» Okay.

1061
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,839
» Good.

1062
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:42,640
» I feel like they will. Yes, sir. I guess

1063
00:43:39,839 --> 00:43:45,280
if we if we could

1064
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:48,079
we probably need to talk to Brian Price

1065
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:50,880
of he can communicate instead of in his

1066
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:52,400
technical manner some way or another we

1067
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,000
just communicate that that it's

1068
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,079
shouldn't be a threatening thing for

1069
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,760
them. Give us whatever you give us but

1070
00:43:56,079 --> 00:44:00,000
give us something

1071
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:03,839
» Give us where your lines are located you

1072
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:06,160
know and do they run through pine woods

1073
00:44:03,839 --> 00:44:08,079
that that kind of thing.

1074
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:10,640
That'd be good if we had all that in one

1075
00:44:08,079 --> 00:44:12,240
» Right. It's not just municipal, it's not

1076
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,560
just the water systems there. It's some

1077
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:16,880
municipalities, too. But that's going to

1078
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,640
be up to their engineers,

1079
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,560
» Right?

1080
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:23,359
» For sure.

1081
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:26,880
Um and then

1082
00:44:23,359 --> 00:44:29,359
with the exception of you had uh

1083
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:32,240
commissioner uh chairman, you had asked

1084
00:44:29,359 --> 00:44:34,960
um about the to do some research about

1085
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:38,480
the amendment 909.

1086
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:42,640
Uh I'm happy to speak about that now or

1087
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:44,319
we can talk about it in the meeting time

1088
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,720
especially before I before I get going

1089
00:44:44,319 --> 00:44:49,760
into retirement. Uh and it's also

1090
00:44:46,720 --> 00:44:52,240
something that that

1091
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:55,119
other people will need to know

1092
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:57,040
and day what your what your options are.

1093
00:44:55,119 --> 00:45:01,240
So what's that what does that amendment

1094
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:01,240
say? Well, so

1095
00:45:01,359 --> 00:45:11,839
it was enacted as um a way for um local

1096
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:13,440
governments to be able to make decisions

1097
00:45:11,839 --> 00:45:17,200
without having to amend the

1098
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:21,040
constitution. Um we're

1099
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:26,720
under the Dillan's rule which is u from

1100
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:29,040
the late 1800s and uh basically says

1101
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:32,319
local government you only have the

1102
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:37,040
authority that that the state gives you.

1103
00:45:32,319 --> 00:45:41,040
So, um what amendment 909 did

1104
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:45,200
um was say here's the authority to act

1105
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:47,200
in these five ways and there's a list of

1106
00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:52,000
five different thing categories

1107
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:53,839
basically that of um types of

1108
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:56,480
um

1109
00:45:53,839 --> 00:45:58,400
matters that

1110
00:45:56,480 --> 00:46:02,160
you can

1111
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:05,040
establish programs under those headings.

1112
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:08,720
um and there's a procedure that's that

1113
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:11,680
you required to follow to um be able to

1114
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:14,240
act in this way. So the five areas have

1115
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:17,359
to do with personnel,

1116
00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:19,760
um litter and animal control, public

1117
00:46:17,359 --> 00:46:23,040
transit and road safety,

1118
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:27,520
um county offices, so like elected

1119
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:30,160
officials and their roles, and then um

1120
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:34,480
emergency assistance.

1121
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:36,079
Um Uh this topic came up in the context

1122
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:40,480
of

1123
00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:42,800
um possibly doing some sort of um you

1124
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:45,040
know retirement party if you have a

1125
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:48,319
county employee that's going to retire

1126
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:50,880
um and you know there there may be a way

1127
00:46:48,319 --> 00:46:55,520
forward to do something like that. The

1128
00:46:50,880 --> 00:47:00,800
ACCA has some materials about some um

1129
00:46:55,520 --> 00:47:04,960
you know jump start for um you know

1130
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:07,520
employee recognition um and safety sort

1131
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:10,400
of things that um that you could put

1132
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:12,319
together. Um so there's some folks that

1133
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:16,240
are doing things. I found some

1134
00:47:12,319 --> 00:47:19,680
information um that where Coleman had

1135
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:22,960
done Coleman County had done some

1136
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:26,319
um enacted something pursuant to

1137
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:28,160
amendment 909 but um the procedure that

1138
00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:30,160
has to be followed is and you went

1139
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:32,160
through it when we were here last but

1140
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:34,319
» Doesn't it say in there you can that the

1141
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,079
local body can restrict it as restricted

1142
00:47:34,319 --> 00:47:38,160
as you want. You don't have to adopt

1143
00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:40,480
everything it says you you may do,

1144
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,960
» Right? You can adopt bits and pieces and

1145
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:47,920
and restrict them. For instance,

1146
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:49,839
» Uh when staff has to buy a frame for uh

1147
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:53,119
a certificate

1148
00:47:49,839 --> 00:47:55,280
of recognition for someone

1149
00:47:53,119 --> 00:47:59,119
uh we have a problem paying for the

1150
00:47:55,280 --> 00:48:01,680
frame. So we have a tendency to run down

1151
00:47:59,119 --> 00:48:03,119
to Walmart and pay 99 cents. Is that we

1152
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,520
got that straight? Can we pay that

1153
00:48:03,119 --> 00:48:06,800
straight down?

1154
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:07,839
» Can we pay anything we want to?

1155
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,480
It's limit. I mean,

1156
00:48:07,839 --> 00:48:12,640
» I mean, we can't go spend hundreds of

1157
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,880
dollars on one, I'm sure, but we can get

1158
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:19,880
decent looking. We pay a little bit more

1159
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:19,880
than 99, but um

1160
00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:23,520
» And and the the certificate itself, I

1161
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,680
mean, we print them off of our computer

1162
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,440
in the office, and it may be something

1163
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:29,119
this something that uh

1164
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:32,160
» You've got an entity that's been working

1165
00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:34,800
for the county for a long time.

1166
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,760
uh and and they need rec they're going

1167
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,119
to get recognition

1168
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:39,200
» Honor that and recognize them for that

1169
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:40,720
» With a with a professionally printed

1170
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,280
certificate

1171
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:44,720
and instead of I we do a good job but

1172
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:47,200
not what it could be if it were done

1173
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:49,839
through some entity that printed off of

1174
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:51,119
better stock. It's not just a flimsy

1175
00:48:49,839 --> 00:48:53,440
piece of paper

1176
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:54,720
» That that starts out at that and it goes

1177
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,720
all the way up to where you could pay

1178
00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:59,119
for the retirement party for a retiring

1179
00:48:56,720 --> 00:49:00,720
judge.

1180
00:48:59,119 --> 00:49:02,640
» Right. Well, right now we can't pay for

1181
00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:04,240
cake or any type of food for a

1182
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,680
retirement party. So,

1183
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:07,920
» So somewhere in there, do you want to

1184
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:11,040
pay for the cake? You know, I think in

1185
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:13,520
909 there may be a place in there for

1186
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,359
» But you can't buy you can't buy him a

1187
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,240
car,

1188
00:49:15,359 --> 00:49:17,359
» Right?

1189
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:18,640
» Yeah.

1190
00:49:17,359 --> 00:49:20,000
» That's the restriction. You going to

1191
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,000
give him a car as a gift for his

1192
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,640
retirement, you know.

1193
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,400
So, but the state had to go through some

1194
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:29,119
pretty big hoops when I retired from the

1195
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:32,640
state and they gave me my pistol and my

1196
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:33,920
badge. Isn't that a crazy thing?

1197
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,440
Policeman's going to retire and you give

1198
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,720
him his pistol and his badge. Well, he's

1199
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,559
not going to shoot anybody, arrest

1200
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:40,640
anybody anymore. He's retiring. Won't

1201
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:42,480
just give me my county, my state truck.

1202
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,640
You know, that's kind of what I suggest.

1203
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,400
That didn't go very, but that's sort of

1204
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,760
what fits in this category. What do you

1205
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,040
want to what do you want to do for

1206
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,359
recognition? That was one of the areas

1207
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:53,440
we really run into a problem with.

1208
00:49:51,359 --> 00:49:56,079
uh

1209
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:59,680
let's say u

1210
00:49:56,079 --> 00:50:01,440
a longstanding person in the counties

1211
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:03,200
uh

1212
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:07,040
does it cover for instance buying

1213
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:09,200
flowers for a funeral? Well, so my

1214
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:12,319
reading of it, and it's, you know, kind

1215
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:16,640
of the 30,000 foot view. Um, I haven't

1216
00:50:12,319 --> 00:50:19,359
drilled down on it very far, but, um, my

1217
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:22,079
read is that it's it gives you a

1218
00:50:19,359 --> 00:50:26,319
mechanism to establish a program. So,

1219
00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:29,280
like a manner of dealing with this topic

1220
00:50:26,319 --> 00:50:33,520
rather than here's Joe Smith that's

1221
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:36,640
retiring. let's go by his picture frame

1222
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:39,520
for the certificate. Um, so it's not

1223
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:42,640
that specific. I mean, maybe it could

1224
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:45,040
be. Um, it's, you know, I mean, it's

1225
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:48,559
it's broad. There's it covers a lot of

1226
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:50,400
lot of ground. Um,

1227
00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:53,119
so

1228
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:57,359
» That something to be aware of. We've had

1229
00:50:53,119 --> 00:51:00,160
option to do to use that amendment uh

1230
00:50:57,359 --> 00:51:01,839
for many years and we've never done it

1231
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:03,839
and a lot of counties have because we're

1232
00:51:01,839 --> 00:51:04,720
afraid of it. What kind of door are you

1233
00:51:03,839 --> 00:51:05,839
opening up?

1234
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:07,359
» Pandora's box.

1235
00:51:05,839 --> 00:51:09,119
» Not necessarily. That's what I'm saying

1236
00:51:07,359 --> 00:51:12,079
is we shouldn't be afraid of it being

1237
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:14,000
Pandora's box if we set conditions. I

1238
00:51:12,079 --> 00:51:16,400
think we can set some real strict

1239
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,720
conditions where you can't open that

1240
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,160
box. you can only do these things which

1241
00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:22,559
is at least better than what you can do

1242
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:25,280
now which is almost nothing in those

1243
00:51:22,559 --> 00:51:29,920
situations. You can't spend public money

1244
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:31,920
on those kind of private things. Um so

1245
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:33,520
u

1246
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:35,760
anyway I think it's valuable to know

1247
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:37,680
about it and and and bring it up every

1248
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:39,119
once in a while. Missions change and you

1249
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,520
may want may want to talk about it

1250
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:43,119
again. How how do we handle this? It not

1251
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,240
only helps commissioners make a

1252
00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:46,880
decision, it helps staff make a

1253
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:49,359
decision. How we going? Golly, we sure

1254
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:52,079
we sure would like to be able to send a

1255
00:51:49,359 --> 00:51:54,000
spray of flowers to the funeral.

1256
00:51:52,079 --> 00:51:55,520
And used to we paid for it. You think

1257
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:57,200
it'd be simple. Why don't we just use

1258
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,440
the money out of the coke machines in

1259
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:02,400
the hallway because it's against the

1260
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:04,079
law. We used to do that. We used to take

1261
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,480
profit out of the Coke machines and

1262
00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:08,720
candy machines in the basement and put

1263
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,319
that into a flower. We used to call it

1264
00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:10,960
the flower fund, didn't we?

1265
00:52:10,319 --> 00:52:13,680
» Yes, sir.

1266
00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:16,319
» Yeah. We can't do that. The auditor said

1267
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:18,720
you cannot do that, but you can use 909,

1268
00:52:16,319 --> 00:52:20,480
I think, to do that. And I don't think

1269
00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:21,760
anybody's saying you shouldn't do that.

1270
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,920
» No, I don't think so.

1271
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:26,480
» So, you got an option to do that, but

1272
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:29,359
you can make it.

1273
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:31,440
Commissioner uh Parker's right. It could

1274
00:52:29,359 --> 00:52:33,280
be something. You open the door, next

1275
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,200
thing you know, lots of money flowing

1276
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:36,800
through. But that's that's us. That's up

1277
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:40,800
to us. We can close the door, I think,

1278
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:42,319
about as tight as we want to close it.

1279
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,319
» Yeah.

1280
00:52:42,319 --> 00:52:46,720
Well, the you know it it wouldn't have

1281
00:52:44,319 --> 00:52:49,280
been enacted if it didn't serve some

1282
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:51,520
interest locally and at the state level

1283
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,599
too. And so the at the state level it

1284
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:55,520
cut down on how many constitutional

1285
00:52:53,599 --> 00:53:00,160
amendments? I mean we had the longest

1286
00:52:55,520 --> 00:53:02,000
constitution in the world the world.

1287
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,760
» This says something you know that that's

1288
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:06,960
how you have to operate to get business

1289
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:07,760
done. So I mean this is a good solution

1290
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,160
» We choose to

1291
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,240
» Right

1292
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:11,599
» And it can solve some problems that I

1293
00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:14,240
think [clears throat]

1294
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:17,240
have until we till we adopt it.

1295
00:53:14,240 --> 00:53:17,240
» Yes.

1296
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,760
» Thank you.

1297
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:26,559
» Yes sir.

1298
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:29,599
» All right. Any questions for Kirk?

1299
00:53:26,559 --> 00:53:32,319
» Thank you.

1300
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:34,240
» Okay. Moving on now in our work session.

1301
00:53:32,319 --> 00:53:36,880
Go back to Dean. He's here

1302
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:37,599
» Up. I didn't see him come in. I saw

1303
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,760
» Come on, Dave.

1304
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:42,079
» Come on up here. Dean Go forth. Dean Go

1305
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:44,480
forth is uh

1306
00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:48,400
» The Sinclair County Airport Authority

1307
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:50,400
» And um he uh in fact he he one of the

1308
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,800
one of the ways he kind of presented

1309
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,400
that he would be interested in serving

1310
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,720
on that authority was that he would like

1311
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:58,640
to give annual updates to the county

1312
00:53:56,720 --> 00:54:02,880
commission which formed the St. Clair

1313
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:04,640
County Airport Authority. Uh and and so

1314
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:06,480
we know what's going on out there and

1315
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:08,400
they know what we're doing and and try

1316
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,480
to try to have some connection between

1317
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:12,480
the county commission and the airport

1318
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,319
authority. We we appreciate your

1319
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:17,520
willingness to serve and your

1320
00:54:14,319 --> 00:54:19,920
willingness to go this other step to to

1321
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,760
literally physically get some

1322
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:25,040
interaction between the two because the

1323
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:26,559
airport is a very valuable and what's

1324
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,920
what's its value? What do you think that

1325
00:54:26,559 --> 00:54:30,880
place would cost if you had to build one

1326
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:33,440
today? that that is not a small a small

1327
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,720
idea out there. Uh so we appreciate the

1328
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,200
work that that you're doing on that

1329
00:54:34,720 --> 00:54:38,880
board and it can spend a lot of money

1330
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:41,440
quickly

1331
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:45,517
in certain ways. So y'all have a printed

1332
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:48,160
report from Dean and the floor is yours.

1333
00:54:45,517 --> 00:54:50,160
[clears throat] We're I sent some late

1334
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:50,640
» I didn't get those printed. I just saw

1335
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,280
them.

1336
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:55,040
» Okay. To them later. I brought a copy in

1337
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,200
case I want to hand it out. So first I

1338
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:58,800
want to say thank you. Thank you for the

1339
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,240
opportunityvious. Obviously, I love to

1340
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,680
fly and I've got a plane there, too. But

1341
00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:03,440
I'm really interested in making sure

1342
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:05,680
that we

1343
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:08,400
for the all y'all know me and I tend to

1344
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:11,119
see things not just from a having fun

1345
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:13,040
standpoint, but from probably many times

1346
00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:14,993
a business perspective. So, I want to

1347
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:17,760
tell you a quick story real quick.

1348
00:55:14,993 --> 00:55:21,720
[clears throat] My first meeting,

1349
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,720
they thought I was a spy.

1350
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:26,800
I'm I we I knew there was a disconnect

1351
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,359
because we talked about it and you guys

1352
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:31,040
challenged me with bridge that gap, find

1353
00:55:29,359 --> 00:55:34,160
out what's going on because we really

1354
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:36,880
don't interact and we don't communicate.

1355
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:38,800
Um so we were in our first meeting. It

1356
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:40,319
was I decided I was just going to keep

1357
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,680
my mouth shut and listen, which is

1358
00:55:40,319 --> 00:55:43,680
sometimes hard for me. You don't say

1359
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:46,000
anything, David. [laughter]

1360
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:48,559
» I've never done that, David, by the way.

1361
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:50,319
» Um

1362
00:55:48,559 --> 00:55:51,839
and

1363
00:55:50,319 --> 00:55:53,839
about threequarters of the way through

1364
00:55:51,839 --> 00:55:55,760
the meeting. I know Erskin, I know Ly, I

1365
00:55:53,839 --> 00:55:58,079
know Ed. I didn't know I I just said I

1366
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:59,839
knew Wendy because I got a plane there.

1367
00:55:58,079 --> 00:56:02,319
And we started talking about some things

1368
00:55:59,839 --> 00:56:04,480
and I said, "Well, let me help you

1369
00:56:02,319 --> 00:56:05,760
understand why I'm here. one, I've got a

1370
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,359
relationship with the commission, with

1371
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,200
each one of them, the chairman and every

1372
00:56:07,359 --> 00:56:11,280
one of the commissioners, and everybody

1373
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:14,880
supports what we're doing here at the

1374
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:17,200
airport, but nobody really understands

1375
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:19,520
what we're doing and why we're doing it

1376
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:22,880
because nobody's communicating to the

1377
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:26,079
commission from the board. Um, I'm here

1378
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:29,280
to one understand what we're doing as an

1379
00:56:26,079 --> 00:56:31,200
airport authority and how do we interact

1380
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,880
and what value do we bring to this

1381
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,720
county? It's one thing from a business

1382
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,880
perspective for me to say we're growing.

1383
00:56:34,720 --> 00:56:38,240
Everybody knows it. This county is

1384
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:40,319
growing and there's a lot of growth to

1385
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:42,960
come. What a lot of people don't know is

1386
00:56:40,319 --> 00:56:46,960
the value of that airport and and what

1387
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:48,640
kind of really gem it is for us. So, the

1388
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,960
more we talked, I've known Ed for a long

1389
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:53,119
time. He knows my story and other things

1390
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:56,079
that that I've done. And he looked at me

1391
00:56:53,119 --> 00:56:58,880
and he said, "I think you're the missing

1392
00:56:56,079 --> 00:57:00,449
link." I said, "Did you just call me a

1393
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,799
Neanderthal?"

1394
00:57:00,449 --> 00:57:04,319
» [laughter]

1395
00:57:00,799 --> 00:57:07,839
» He said, he said, "No, you've got the

1396
00:57:04,319 --> 00:57:10,480
relationships with the commission and

1397
00:57:07,839 --> 00:57:13,599
now being on our airport authority and

1398
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:15,119
we really feel like you can help us

1399
00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:16,400
rebuild that relationship." That's

1400
00:57:15,119 --> 00:57:17,680
really what I want to say. That's the

1401
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,440
most important thing I want to say to

1402
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:21,359
y'all today is that the airport

1403
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,880
authority is extremely interested in

1404
00:57:21,359 --> 00:57:25,839
making sure that we rebuild that

1405
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,200
relationship. We share information.

1406
00:57:25,839 --> 00:57:29,119
Sometimes I need to be quiet because

1407
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:32,960
they said, "Would you be that person?"

1408
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:34,960
And I was like, "Okay." Because I like

1409
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,960
building relationships. All that said,

1410
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:39,359
one of the things that I think you guys

1411
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:42,000
probably knew is in my first report, it

1412
00:57:39,359 --> 00:57:44,559
would be pretty extensive, right? I

1413
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,760
believe if I'm going to if you if you

1414
00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:47,920
challenge me to do something, I want to

1415
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:49,520
do the best job I can. So, the first

1416
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:52,079
thing I want to do is say thank you very

1417
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:53,680
much for the opportunity because I do

1418
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:55,760
feel like this is going to be a new

1419
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:59,760
partnership that's g that's going to

1420
00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:02,559
help everyone. Um,

1421
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:04,079
I'll just start with with the things

1422
00:58:02,559 --> 00:58:05,920
that I have on my agenda. There's a few

1423
00:58:04,079 --> 00:58:09,680
things I left off that I I'll give you,

1424
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:11,680
too. But, um, if you just look at the at

1425
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:13,920
the economic

1426
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:16,000
impact report, and I think everybody

1427
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:17,599
should have a copy of that. You may not

1428
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:18,880
had because it was late yesterday when I

1429
00:58:17,599 --> 00:58:21,040
sent it, but if you get a minute, look

1430
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:22,960
at that because it demonstrates

1431
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,319
something I didn't even know. Stan, you

1432
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,880
asked a minute ago, what's that airport

1433
00:58:24,319 --> 00:58:29,280
really worth?

1434
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:32,480
millions [laughter]

1435
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:34,799
uh and the impact that it has here and

1436
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,799
what I see is the future not just based

1437
00:58:34,799 --> 00:58:38,799
on this but based on the growth of

1438
00:58:36,799 --> 00:58:40,480
industry and businesses and people and

1439
00:58:38,799 --> 00:58:42,559
more and more people want to come and

1440
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:45,280
use this regional airport as opposed to

1441
00:58:42,559 --> 00:58:46,400
going to Birmingham because like David

1442
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,680
Johnson and I were talking about the

1443
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,280
other day, you can't land in Birmingham

1444
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,880
or park your plane without worrying

1445
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:55,440
about a bullet going through it. I mean,

1446
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:58,000
it's crazy. um we're in the sweet spot

1447
00:58:55,440 --> 00:59:00,079
for growth. So, there's a lot of things

1448
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:04,160
that that we can do from that

1449
00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:07,040
perspective. Um grants, the first thing

1450
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:09,200
I did was was visit with Candace Hill

1451
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:11,040
and she's very interested because I said

1452
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:13,040
to her, "Can you explain to me why

1453
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:15,760
Bessemer got $4 million and we didn't?

1454
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:17,119
Did Katie come visit? Did we bring

1455
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:19,359
people here when we were applying for

1456
00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:21,280
those grants? And if so, why didn't we

1457
00:59:19,359 --> 00:59:23,760
why weren't we successful?" So that

1458
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:25,280
tells me there's money available. She

1459
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:28,480
said, "I'm very interested. If the

1460
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:30,319
commission so desires and and economic

1461
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:33,599
development says I can do it, I want to

1462
00:59:30,319 --> 00:59:35,040
help." So, and she's gained a lot of

1463
00:59:33,599 --> 00:59:37,520
experience over the years, as you guys

1464
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:39,599
already know, especially working working

1465
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:42,000
I sound like a country pumpkin donut,

1466
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:43,839
working on grants and things like that.

1467
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:46,160
So, I'm excited about that. The other

1468
00:59:43,839 --> 00:59:49,280
thing uh that we all talked about is

1469
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:51,359
currently for whatever reason and and I

1470
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:53,760
chose not to go down the rabbit hole and

1471
00:59:51,359 --> 00:59:55,920
create an adversarial

1472
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,359
situation between people on the board

1473
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,440
that may or may not have the answer, but

1474
00:59:57,359 --> 01:00:03,200
I said, "Can you explain to me why our

1475
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:05,839
sheriff is putting our helicopters in

1476
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:09,280
Tallaladega County? Can somebody help me

1477
01:00:05,839 --> 01:00:11,599
understand that?" Well, there was a

1478
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:14,720
couple of different thoughts behind how

1479
01:00:11,599 --> 01:00:17,040
that happened, but the end result is

1480
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:20,240
they very much want the sheriff to have

1481
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:22,319
a place at the airport.

1482
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:23,839
Um, I looked at some information from

1483
01:00:22,319 --> 01:00:25,280
2023.

1484
01:00:23,839 --> 01:00:26,799
I don't know that that's the budget that

1485
01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:28,000
we need to work off of, which is why I

1486
01:00:26,799 --> 01:00:30,160
put the request in here for the

1487
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:32,480
sheriff's budget. He's expressed he

1488
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,839
wants to move, but nobody really knows

1489
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,200
what's that going to cost. And I think

1490
01:00:33,839 --> 01:00:36,960
we need to explore. We've already

1491
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:39,599
identified the land that we can use. So,

1492
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:43,720
I think the next step is what what are

1493
01:00:39,599 --> 01:00:43,720
the next steps? Um,

1494
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:48,480
» Really?

1495
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:51,067
» Okay. That's not for me to decide. I'm

1496
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,067
just [laughter]

1497
01:00:52,977 --> 01:00:54,960
[clears throat]

1498
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,252
» Well, I guess my answer to that is

1499
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,272
that's for the commission to decide.

1500
01:00:56,252 --> 01:00:58,272
[laughter]

1501
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,240
» That end up being the sheriff's

1502
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,200
decision.

1503
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:04,880
» That's okay.

1504
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,077
» Well, I'm not going to get in the middle

1505
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,097
of that.

1506
01:01:06,077 --> 01:01:08,097
» [laughter]

1507
01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:12,400
» Um, I guess I could go either way.

1508
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:14,000
Everybody's got their opinion on, you

1509
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,359
know, aviation and things that you could

1510
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,359
do. One of the things that sheriff and I

1511
01:01:15,359 --> 01:01:19,040
talked about was it's it's also about

1512
01:01:17,359 --> 01:01:22,799
housing their drones and things like

1513
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:25,280
that as that department grows. The other

1514
01:01:22,799 --> 01:01:27,680
thing I would add is having the

1515
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:30,559
sheriff's department there opens up the

1516
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:33,599
door for tons of grant monies that are

1517
01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:36,000
also available at the state and federal

1518
01:01:33,599 --> 01:01:37,599
levels. Um, I know that you guys go to

1519
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,359
Washington on a regular basis and part

1520
01:01:37,599 --> 01:01:41,119
of the list that you've got in here, I

1521
01:01:39,359 --> 01:01:42,799
provided some information that was sent

1522
01:01:41,119 --> 01:01:44,720
to Joey. I've talked to him. I've talked

1523
01:01:42,799 --> 01:01:46,559
to Bob. I've talked to you. I Ricky and

1524
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,760
Jeff, I really talked to you before I

1525
01:01:46,559 --> 01:01:50,880
went on the board, but I hadn't seen you

1526
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:53,359
and been able to share what I'm sharing

1527
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:55,760
with you now. Um, so I think that's

1528
01:01:53,359 --> 01:01:58,160
another venue that we can or avenue that

1529
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:59,520
we can look at for seeking funds and

1530
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:02,400
money. But if you don't go to the

1531
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:04,160
government with a plan or an idea of why

1532
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:06,400
you need it, they're just going to look

1533
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:08,799
at you and say, "Give me some details."

1534
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,480
But if we go with a plan, nine out of 10

1535
01:02:08,799 --> 01:02:12,000
times they'll say, "Yes, especially when

1536
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:15,839
it comes to aviation, law enforcement,

1537
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:18,000
and those kind of things." Um,

1538
01:02:15,839 --> 01:02:20,400
recent paving expense, I put that in

1539
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:22,799
there. That was uh what I'm trying to do

1540
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:27,040
is help you understand or see some of

1541
01:02:22,799 --> 01:02:29,839
the expenses related to the operation of

1542
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:31,440
the airport. itself. I didn't come today

1543
01:02:29,839 --> 01:02:32,960
and I did put some dollar amounts in

1544
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:34,799
here of some requests because I know

1545
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,559
we're looking at budgets, but they've

1546
01:02:34,799 --> 01:02:38,160
never really come and demonstrated to

1547
01:02:36,559 --> 01:02:40,799
you why or what what we do with the

1548
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:44,000
money. One of the questions was, well,

1549
01:02:40,799 --> 01:02:45,680
the the commission used to

1550
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,520
uh

1551
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,960
allot a certain amount of money, but we

1552
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:51,200
don't know why anymore. I said, why do

1553
01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:52,480
we know? Well, we we don't know. Well,

1554
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,720
it's because nobody's been in here to

1555
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:56,079
ask you.

1556
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,359
Now, they're now they're going to ask.

1557
01:02:56,079 --> 01:02:59,200
are going to give you the information so

1558
01:02:57,359 --> 01:03:02,400
that you can make a good business

1559
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:06,240
decision on an asset that you own

1560
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:08,000
inside the county. Um, but I just wanted

1561
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:10,400
you to see some of the that was an

1562
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:12,000
expense that just came up there. We're

1563
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,680
building a lot of new hangers there. And

1564
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:15,039
by the way, every single one of them are

1565
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:18,240
already spoken for when we get them

1566
01:03:15,039 --> 01:03:19,920
open. How how wonderful is that? I mean,

1567
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,280
that tells you what kind of demand that

1568
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:23,440
every hanger that we're currently

1569
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:25,680
building is going to be occupied when

1570
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:28,160
it's finished. Well, while the paving

1571
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:31,680
people were there, we identified an area

1572
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:33,039
on the on the other on the back side, as

1573
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:35,280
I like to call it, of all the hangers

1574
01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:36,799
that's just terrible. So, they agreed to

1575
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,240
give us a pretty good price since

1576
01:03:36,799 --> 01:03:41,314
they're going to be on site to do that,

1577
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:43,119
too. So, we said yes. Um,

1578
01:03:41,314 --> 01:03:45,039
[clears throat] capital expenditures. I

1579
01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:47,760
think I included that with the email

1580
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:49,280
that Ike sent to Joey just to give you

1581
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,599
I'm not here to say, "Hey, we need to

1582
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:54,240
spend all this money." I I wanted you to

1583
01:03:51,599 --> 01:03:58,000
see that so that you can start to

1584
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:59,599
develop how we how do we go to con our

1585
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:02,720
Washington start to say Congress. How do

1586
01:03:59,599 --> 01:04:04,880
we go to Washington and ask for uh

1587
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:06,319
monies to help us and how do we help

1588
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,240
them understand why we need it? How do

1589
01:04:06,319 --> 01:04:09,920
we go to the state? We talked about at

1590
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,280
the state level there's a whole

1591
01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:13,200
department that I don't know that we

1592
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:16,799
really have that relationship with that

1593
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:18,880
if we develop it what's available to us.

1594
01:04:16,799 --> 01:04:21,359
Um,

1595
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:22,960
the next thing was insurance costs. Now,

1596
01:04:21,359 --> 01:04:26,000
I've warned the chairman's ear out about

1597
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:28,960
this because I really don't understand

1598
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:30,400
during Mr. Manning's tenure used to all

1599
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,559
the insurance for the airport authority

1600
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:34,960
was covered under the county. I don't

1601
01:04:32,559 --> 01:04:39,200
know why or who or why the decision was

1602
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:42,000
made, but it was pulled out and they are

1603
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:44,160
now bearing the full expense.

1604
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:46,559
um you ask what the prop what the value

1605
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:48,559
of it is in that insurance information

1606
01:04:46,559 --> 01:04:50,160
that I gave you. One of it is property

1607
01:04:48,559 --> 01:04:51,760
insurance and it lists all the values

1608
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,599
all the different buildings. So it gives

1609
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:55,039
you a good idea from that perspective

1610
01:04:53,599 --> 01:04:57,359
but then also some of the information

1611
01:04:55,039 --> 01:05:00,319
that I provided and has been provided

1612
01:04:57,359 --> 01:05:01,839
previously uh will outline things that

1613
01:05:00,319 --> 01:05:03,119
we're going to have to do. One of the

1614
01:05:01,839 --> 01:05:05,680
things that I'm going to give you in a

1615
01:05:03,119 --> 01:05:09,119
minute and she can print for you is our

1616
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:11,920
inspection uh from aviation earlier this

1617
01:05:09,119 --> 01:05:15,119
year. We we passed and they said your

1618
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:17,200
license is acceptable. However, there's

1619
01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:19,280
some things that we need you to do. We

1620
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:20,960
may need some help doing some of those.

1621
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,799
I can't stand here today and tell you

1622
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:25,760
how much. I just wanted you to be

1623
01:05:22,799 --> 01:05:27,119
prepared that they may send me back to

1624
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:27,599
say, can you see if they can help with

1625
01:05:27,119 --> 01:05:29,920
some of this?

1626
01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:31,440
» Yeah. And if I could start with that,

1627
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:33,119
let's go with the insurance one while

1628
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:36,480
I've got it on my mind.

1629
01:05:33,119 --> 01:05:38,160
» Please. But I met with Sunny Bradfield,

1630
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:40,000
the executive director of the

1631
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:42,960
Association of Counties, and that's

1632
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,760
where our insurance through. I think uh

1633
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,760
» County reserve

1634
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,760
» All but about all but about six counties

1635
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,799
in the state have their their property

1636
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:50,079
insurance and all through the

1637
01:05:48,799 --> 01:05:52,160
association of counties. We're

1638
01:05:50,079 --> 01:05:55,599
self-insured. It's a multi-million

1639
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:59,520
dollar self-insured insurance company.

1640
01:05:55,599 --> 01:06:02,079
Uh during the actuary portion every

1641
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:04,640
year, we have a report from an actuarial

1642
01:06:02,079 --> 01:06:07,680
company that gives us recommendations on

1643
01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:09,200
what's affecting our policy costs,

1644
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:11,359
what's the county paying for our

1645
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:13,680
insurance, and what's making it go up

1646
01:06:11,359 --> 01:06:15,680
and what's, you know, what can we do to

1647
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:18,960
keep it stabilized or make it go down.

1648
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:22,160
One of the things making it go up were

1649
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:26,480
what somebody called uh uh things other

1650
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:30,720
than county direct county uh services or

1651
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:33,039
direct county property. Uh for instance,

1652
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:35,200
airports was one. We've had we had

1653
01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:35,760
counties that had fairies.

1654
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,280
» Had what?

1655
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,475
» Fairies. They run ferry across the

1656
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,359
river.

1657
01:06:39,475 --> 01:06:44,000
[laughter]

1658
01:06:41,359 --> 01:06:45,359
» I was worried.

1659
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,960
They were running fairies across the

1660
01:06:45,359 --> 01:06:49,680
river. Well, what's the what's the

1661
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:51,359
liability of a ferry?

1662
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:52,880
» It depends on what kind of ferry and do

1663
01:06:51,359 --> 01:06:56,400
you have cars with people in them and

1664
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:58,880
what? So, it was affecting the rate the

1665
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:00,400
overall rate for what the association

1666
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:03,839
county commissions could provide

1667
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:05,920
insurance to the individual counties. Uh

1668
01:07:03,839 --> 01:07:07,599
so it didn't during Commissioner

1669
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,960
Manning's term. It wasn't he didn't have

1670
01:07:07,599 --> 01:07:12,079
anything to do with that, but it was

1671
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:15,520
during his term the association stopped

1672
01:07:12,079 --> 01:07:17,839
paying anything other than direct county

1673
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:22,640
affiliation. It took them all out

1674
01:07:17,839 --> 01:07:26,760
fairies not not too and uh uh airports

1675
01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:26,760
and removed them. Now,

1676
01:07:27,359 --> 01:07:32,559
in all likelihood,

1677
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:34,640
talking to Sunny, we were getting that

1678
01:07:32,559 --> 01:07:37,920
insurance

1679
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:40,160
at a much lower rate

1680
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:42,799
through our insurance program. Maybe why

1681
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:44,400
they took it out. Then the airport has

1682
01:07:42,799 --> 01:07:46,240
gone out into the private marketplace

1683
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:49,920
and got their own insurance because it

1684
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:52,000
went up tenfold. He said we were paying

1685
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:53,760
yada yada about that. He said for

1686
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:56,400
instance Charles airport it have a

1687
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:58,079
value. What's the liability? What kind

1688
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,920
of equipment do you have? Do you have a

1689
01:07:58,079 --> 01:08:01,520
ALS system? Do you have what kind of

1690
01:07:59,920 --> 01:08:03,359
systems do you have at the airport that

1691
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:05,680
you got to maintain? You know and and

1692
01:08:03,359 --> 01:08:07,920
and and where are those liable for

1693
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:11,440
instance liable for that to be damaged

1694
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:14,240
or liable to to cause a plane to not

1695
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:17,040
land properly? uh the lighting for

1696
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:18,960
instance all all that's it's measured

1697
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:22,239
according to what the more you offer at

1698
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:26,000
the airport the more not just physical

1699
01:08:22,239 --> 01:08:28,640
asset the more liability you have so

1700
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:30,239
factoring that in they took airports out

1701
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:33,600
the association county commission's

1702
01:08:30,239 --> 01:08:35,279
liability insurance does not uh

1703
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:41,120
we can't even give them I said can we

1704
01:08:35,279 --> 01:08:42,960
pay extra no to the actuarial study said

1705
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,560
best thing to do

1706
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,239
unless they're listed in your name, take

1707
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:50,480
them out.

1708
01:08:46,239 --> 01:08:53,600
So, that's where that came from. Now,

1709
01:08:50,480 --> 01:08:55,839
we could probably pay from the county's

1710
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:58,239
money because we took them out. It

1711
01:08:55,839 --> 01:09:00,560
probably in the long run saved us money

1712
01:08:58,239 --> 01:09:02,719
because of the liability causing the

1713
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,960
overall actuary to say your insurance is

1714
01:09:02,719 --> 01:09:06,799
going up. So, we saved a little money

1715
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:10,560
taking it out. So, we could give that to

1716
01:09:06,799 --> 01:09:13,279
the airport and and and break even. we

1717
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:15,359
would we would uh would be made whole.

1718
01:09:13,279 --> 01:09:19,440
So, what was that figure? Well, let's

1719
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:21,679
just say that figure would be uh $4,200

1720
01:09:19,440 --> 01:09:23,359
a year for a policy.

1721
01:09:21,679 --> 01:09:25,120
Uh

1722
01:09:23,359 --> 01:09:27,359
go out to the private marketplace and

1723
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:30,480
the airport authority in individual

1724
01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:32,799
counties are now paying $20,000 for a

1725
01:09:30,480 --> 01:09:34,719
policy that used to be costing us 4,000

1726
01:09:32,799 --> 01:09:37,040
and something because in the private

1727
01:09:34,719 --> 01:09:39,440
marketplace there's very little

1728
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:41,520
bargaining. It's every what kind of

1729
01:09:39,440 --> 01:09:43,520
relationship that the person making the

1730
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:45,359
decision at the airport or the ferry or

1731
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:47,759
wherever has with the local insurance

1732
01:09:45,359 --> 01:09:49,199
agent and sometimes they'll charge you

1733
01:09:47,759 --> 01:09:51,600
more money

1734
01:09:49,199 --> 01:09:54,719
» Because they can some of that has

1735
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:56,960
happened. So within that how much how

1736
01:09:54,719 --> 01:09:58,480
much uh interaction between the airport

1737
01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,159
people making that decision and the

1738
01:09:58,480 --> 01:10:03,120
county commission does the commission

1739
01:10:00,159 --> 01:10:05,760
want? In other words, if we let's just

1740
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:09,040
say we're going to cover that 42 thou

1741
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:12,159
$4,300 for insurance policy out of our

1742
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:15,520
uh out of our coffers, out of our

1743
01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:16,880
revenue stream. Uh we be basically

1744
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:19,760
breaking even because it didn't go up

1745
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:21,440
that amount.

1746
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:23,520
The relationship starts breaking down

1747
01:10:21,440 --> 01:10:26,239
though when there's no communication

1748
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:28,080
between we're going to burn $200 and now

1749
01:10:26,239 --> 01:10:30,560
you're paying 20. we know y'all need to

1750
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:32,239
give us 20 if we don't have any

1751
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:33,840
influence or any kind of interaction

1752
01:10:32,239 --> 01:10:36,239
between who chooses what insurance

1753
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:37,760
agent. That's kind of where that came

1754
01:10:36,239 --> 01:10:39,199
apart. Well, you know, leave it alone.

1755
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:42,320
So, the best thing to do is give a pool

1756
01:10:39,199 --> 01:10:44,880
of money to the airport based on certain

1757
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:46,320
figures. And I see Commissioner Crowback

1758
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:48,400
there, revenue commissioner, and he's

1759
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:51,920
very aware of this.

1760
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:54,480
Every airplane, as I understand it, uh,

1761
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:56,560
every airplane owner has to pay personal

1762
01:10:54,480 --> 01:10:58,719
property tax.

1763
01:10:56,560 --> 01:11:00,640
» When the county first started

1764
01:10:58,719 --> 01:11:04,480
interacting with the airport on some

1765
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:06,400
money, uh, the uh the airport manager at

1766
01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:08,400
that time came to me and he said, "We

1767
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:10,480
have got a lot of," this was years ago,

1768
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:12,719
20 years ago, "We got a lot of airplanes

1769
01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:15,840
out at the airport that they got chains

1770
01:11:12,719 --> 01:11:18,719
on the door and and uh, your revenue

1771
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:20,000
commissioner What's in there?

1772
01:11:18,719 --> 01:11:22,400
Why didn't it? Because the door's

1773
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:23,440
locked. Well, just unlock it. Well, we

1774
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:26,320
don't have a key. It belongs to the

1775
01:11:23,440 --> 01:11:27,520
owner that has has the has a lease. What

1776
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,920
kind of planes in there? I don't know.

1777
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:33,360
It may be a broke down Cessna 150 or it

1778
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:34,960
may be a Citation jet. I don't know.

1779
01:11:33,360 --> 01:11:36,640
Well,

1780
01:11:34,960 --> 01:11:38,239
what what you what you think it's worth?

1781
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:41,520
Well, at that time, we wasn't bringing

1782
01:11:38,239 --> 01:11:43,840
in but literally a couple thousand

1783
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:46,080
dollars a year in advoc.

1784
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:49,520
So, we gave we said, "How about we give

1785
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:51,040
you everything that y'all bring in for

1786
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:52,560
airplanes,

1787
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,560
whatever the county would get out of

1788
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:56,880
airplanes, we give all that to the

1789
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:59,920
airport." And that's what we did for

1790
01:11:56,880 --> 01:12:01,520
several years. Well, it it

1791
01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:03,920
within the first couple of years, it

1792
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:06,800
went from like $2,500 or whatever it was

1793
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:09,360
up to pushing 10 because now we know

1794
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:12,080
what airplanes are in there and the the

1795
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:13,760
the appraisers going out there and can

1796
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,199
get in the door. Why can they get in the

1797
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,960
door? Because you got to give the

1798
01:12:15,199 --> 01:12:19,360
airport manager and the airport board a

1799
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:21,120
key to get in that. It's their hanger.

1800
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,800
So they open the door, let you see

1801
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,719
whether it's assessed on 150 or

1802
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:26,159
citations yet. Now you can go in there

1803
01:12:24,719 --> 01:12:27,600
and based on the records from the

1804
01:12:26,159 --> 01:12:30,640
revenue commissioner's office, we can

1805
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:33,679
assess a tax.

1806
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:35,600
And so that worked pretty good for a

1807
01:12:33,679 --> 01:12:38,640
while,

1808
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:40,080
but what what happened was just like the

1809
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:43,280
all the rest of the growth in Slair

1810
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:46,080
County, the airport now has probably as

1811
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:48,320
many jets out there as they got system

1812
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:50,000
150s. It's not that much, but it's it's

1813
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:52,480
really grown in the value of the

1814
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:55,520
airplanes. So, not only did we find a

1815
01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:56,880
lot more airplanes out there, uh, not

1816
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,320
only did we find that we had a lot of

1817
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:59,679
airplanes, we found some hangers that

1818
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:02,320
had airplanes that didn't fly and hadn't

1819
01:12:59,679 --> 01:13:04,000
flown in 30 years. And they had the

1820
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,199
airplane pushed over here in the corner

1821
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,360
and they were running their air

1822
01:13:05,199 --> 01:13:09,199
conditioning business out of that hanger

1823
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:11,120
because it was cheaper to pay the

1824
01:13:09,199 --> 01:13:12,960
airport that little bit of airport rent

1825
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:14,719
than it was to go into Pel City and run

1826
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:18,159
a building.

1827
01:13:14,719 --> 01:13:19,840
So we had like 10 businesses being run

1828
01:13:18,159 --> 01:13:21,760
out of the airport that had nothing to

1829
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:24,560
do with airplanes. So that let the

1830
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:26,000
airport board close all that down. You

1831
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:27,920
cannot run a business out if you don't

1832
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:30,000
have a flyable airplane or an airplane

1833
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:31,199
that can be maintained and put in flying

1834
01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,880
shape certain amount of time. They've

1835
01:13:31,199 --> 01:13:34,320
got a rule now. Well, now then you got

1836
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,600
airplanes in there that the revenue

1837
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,280
commissioner sends his people out and

1838
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:40,880
they put a value on them and that just

1839
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:43,520
kept going up. How much is it now?

1840
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:45,520
» The taxes we draw for abl taxes for

1841
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:47,120
airplanes. St. Clair County received

1842
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:49,360
about 4041,000

1843
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:50,320
» $41,000 now.

1844
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:53,120
» Soish.

1845
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:55,760
» Yeah. So, let's just say we were giving

1846
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:58,560
the airport authority $41,000.

1847
01:13:55,760 --> 01:13:59,520
» Well, now it breaks now it goes back to

1848
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,840
breaking down. You know, we're giving

1849
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:03,360
them $41,000, but they're paying $20,000

1850
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:04,880
for insurance that we used to get for

1851
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:06,320
five.

1852
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,480
We need to set a value of what we

1853
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:10,000
thought the insurance was worth and put

1854
01:14:08,480 --> 01:14:13,040
that in with whatever money we give the

1855
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:14,800
airport. I think that would solve that.

1856
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,000
you you got to shop your insurance. You

1857
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,520
can't just say, "Okay, we got all the

1858
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:20,560
money we can burn on that. We can spend

1859
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:22,080
it." So, that that covers whatever

1860
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:25,600
happened there. The other thing that

1861
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:28,480
happened there was the uh

1862
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:30,880
grant applications for

1863
01:14:28,480 --> 01:14:34,159
the grants for federal money for

1864
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:35,679
airports. Every year there there are

1865
01:14:34,159 --> 01:14:38,560
transportation

1866
01:14:35,679 --> 01:14:40,480
monies through the FAA given out for

1867
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:44,480
different things at airports. And the

1868
01:14:40,480 --> 01:14:46,480
FAA would like to have more and more

1869
01:14:44,480 --> 01:14:50,320
uh

1870
01:14:46,480 --> 01:14:52,080
better approach equipment and you know

1871
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:54,480
better lighting all that kind of stuff.

1872
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:56,800
Better runways, better taxi ways. Uh so

1873
01:14:54,480 --> 01:14:59,840
they give you money. That is the best

1874
01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:03,120
grant money other than a 100% grant that

1875
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:06,320
we have. It's a 95%.

1876
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:09,760
You get 95%. Let's say it's a $100,000

1877
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:11,440
grant. You get 95% of it for a 5% match.

1878
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:15,520
all it cost. Well, the state to

1879
01:15:11,440 --> 01:15:18,640
incentivize airport authorities to do it

1880
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:19,760
was was paying two and a half% of it if

1881
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:21,920
the county pay the other two and a

1882
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:25,040
half%. Our city some cities own

1883
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:26,640
airports. So that incentivized

1884
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:28,719
airport authorities. We need to go after

1885
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,920
that money. It's almost free. In fact,

1886
01:15:28,719 --> 01:15:31,679
it is free to us. We don't have to pay

1887
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,040
anything. County pays two and a half and

1888
01:15:31,679 --> 01:15:35,040
the state pays two and a half and we get

1889
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:37,920
the grant. So that worked really well

1890
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:39,679
for a long time. Uh that money's moved

1891
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:42,880
around. has different figures. I think

1892
01:15:39,679 --> 01:15:44,320
there's still 955% money out there, but

1893
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:46,480
I don't know that I I hadn't been

1894
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:47,920
involved in as a chairman. I don't know

1895
01:15:46,480 --> 01:15:50,159
what they've asked for in grants had to

1896
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:52,400
come across my plate. Used to those all

1897
01:15:50,159 --> 01:15:54,080
came across my plate because we were

1898
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:56,239
going to pay the 5 and a half% or two

1899
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:58,880
and a half%.

1900
01:15:56,239 --> 01:16:00,800
Then we added that in what why the

1901
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:03,120
miscommunication started is we just said

1902
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:04,880
instead of giving them money percentage

1903
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:07,679
for that grant, they take it out of this

1904
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:10,480
tax money that keeps growing.

1905
01:16:07,679 --> 01:16:13,840
So all right now along comes new

1906
01:16:10,480 --> 01:16:17,920
chairman, new government and the

1907
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:19,600
airport. Now uh it today we'd be getting

1908
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:22,640
41,000 if we were doing it like we used

1909
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:26,320
to without any discussion from the

1910
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:27,600
county commission or government. And if

1911
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,719
we kept doing it that way, there'd be

1912
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:30,000
plenty of money out there. But there

1913
01:16:28,719 --> 01:16:31,360
wouldn't be a whole lot of incentive if

1914
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:33,440
you had that kind of money laying out

1915
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,960
there to to shop your insurance benefit

1916
01:16:33,440 --> 01:16:37,360
for instance. Wouldn't be a lot of

1917
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:38,960
incentive to

1918
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:41,760
to go after some of the grant money. If

1919
01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:44,880
you had any money coming in,

1920
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:47,199
it did it just came apart in in the way

1921
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:48,719
the function of the airport needed the

1922
01:16:47,199 --> 01:16:50,239
money. They didn't need the money as

1923
01:16:48,719 --> 01:16:52,000
much as they used to. And it's getting

1924
01:16:50,239 --> 01:16:55,199
even more so. If you're fueling up a

1925
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:59,360
bunch of jets that uses, you know, 50

1926
01:16:55,199 --> 01:17:01,040
gallons an hour to fly, then then

1927
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,480
you're making money because that's

1928
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,760
that's the only way they make money out

1929
01:17:02,480 --> 01:17:05,120
there is selling fuel and renting

1930
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:05,920
hangers.

1931
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,520
» That's that's the only way. They don't

1932
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,239
have a landing fee that a lot of

1933
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:10,080
airports have,

1934
01:17:08,239 --> 01:17:11,840
» Right? A lot of them have land ramp fees

1935
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,760
and all that stuff. The only other way

1936
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:16,080
that there's any money coming in is that

1937
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:19,199
adalorm tax on the airplane and that's

1938
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:20,880
the money comes to us at 41,000 and and

1939
01:17:19,199 --> 01:17:22,560
yes, we can decide how to spend it. We

1940
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:24,719
even encourage pale city for instance.

1941
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,640
That's just the county's money. Avalor

1942
01:17:24,719 --> 01:17:28,080
taxes goes to the county, the

1943
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:31,120
municipality where it's collected,

1944
01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:32,880
school system, you know, if ever why why

1945
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:34,239
would anybody get any extra money out of

1946
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:35,520
the airport if you're not affiliated

1947
01:17:34,239 --> 01:17:37,840
with the airport? just give it all the

1948
01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:39,360
airport. If everybody do that, then

1949
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:41,360
there'd be plenty of money rolling out

1950
01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:44,000
there. The school money that goes, it'd

1951
01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:45,520
all go to the airport. Uh I don't think

1952
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:47,360
that'll ever happen, but that's the

1953
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:48,880
story of how it happens. That's that's

1954
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:50,320
the rules of how this money moves

1955
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:51,920
around. So, right now, we're sitting on

1956
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:53,840
$41,000

1957
01:17:51,920 --> 01:17:56,239
that we could go back like we used to

1958
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:57,600
and give all that money that collected

1959
01:17:56,239 --> 01:18:00,159
through the revenue office to the

1960
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:02,480
airport. Yet, the sheriff can't put his

1961
01:18:00,159 --> 01:18:04,960
helicopters out there.

1962
01:18:02,480 --> 01:18:06,480
Here we go. That's

1963
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:08,320
Literally, that's the way the discussion

1964
01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:10,800
has been. We're We got to pay the

1965
01:18:08,320 --> 01:18:11,840
sheriff's helicopter bill somewhere, and

1966
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:12,880
if we're not paying it out of the

1967
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,800
airport, we're going to take it out of

1968
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:16,640
the money that would normally have gone

1969
01:18:14,800 --> 01:18:19,920
there.

1970
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:21,120
» In my in my mind, if if through the

1971
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:23,199
sheriff's office, we're able to get a

1972
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:24,880
grant to build a hanger that you can use

1973
01:18:23,199 --> 01:18:26,480
not just for drones, helicopters, or

1974
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:30,239
planes, but the county is going to own

1975
01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:31,360
it. I did a couple of things, too. Um,

1976
01:18:30,239 --> 01:18:32,640
can I approach?

1977
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,800
» Oh, sure.

1978
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:37,920
So, this is one of the things I asked.

1979
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:39,760
» We're not like uh judges and and mayors.

1980
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:41,040
I just wanted to make sure we get abused

1981
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:43,280
a lot more.

1982
01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:45,760
» That that don't ask me any questions. I

1983
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:48,960
didn't bring my glasses. [clears throat]

1984
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:51,280
» But I wanted you to see they're they're

1985
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:53,739
attempting to look at their financials

1986
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:55,759
because every month

1987
01:18:53,739 --> 01:18:55,759
[laughter]

1988
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:02,560
Thank you. every month when we meet.

1989
01:18:59,040 --> 01:19:04,000
Now, this is a a condensed version of

1990
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:07,280
the financials and kind of what we got

1991
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:11,360
going on, where the money is, um, etc.,

1992
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:13,120
etc. So, I wanted you to see that. Um, I

1993
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:14,239
am currently shopping the insurance.

1994
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:16,159
Some of it, I think the general

1995
01:19:14,239 --> 01:19:18,239
liability renews in November, and the

1996
01:19:16,159 --> 01:19:20,159
other

1997
01:19:18,239 --> 01:19:22,719
in February or March, I don't know. The

1998
01:19:20,159 --> 01:19:25,280
biggest one is a $38,000 one on all the

1999
01:19:22,719 --> 01:19:26,560
property coverage for everything out

2000
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,159
there. The other one seems to be a

2001
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:30,480
pretty good price for the coverage. But

2002
01:19:28,159 --> 01:19:32,400
I've got uh one of my folks that I've

2003
01:19:30,480 --> 01:19:35,440
worked with a lot at insurance agent

2004
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:37,600
shopping it and they're pretty

2005
01:19:35,440 --> 01:19:40,159
they're pretty big. So I'm hoping that I

2006
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:41,600
can identify something better going

2007
01:19:40,159 --> 01:19:42,960
forward from a cost standpoint. If

2008
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,000
nothing else, I'm going to negotiate

2009
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,520
with the people that we currently have

2010
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,960
it with and see what we need to do. I

2011
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,080
don't know what our deductibles are. I

2012
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:50,000
need to read through that. So there's

2013
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:51,120
some more research I need to do and I

2014
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:54,640
got a little bit of time to do that. But

2015
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:56,640
I wanted you to be able to see by

2016
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:58,000
providing you with copies what the

2017
01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,280
expenses actually are. It's one thing

2018
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,120
for me to stand here and tell you that.

2019
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:03,920
It's another thing when I can show it to

2020
01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:06,080
you, right, and prove not that I have to

2021
01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:09,120
pro you already trust me, but I wanted

2022
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:12,239
to validate. The other thing I did and I

2023
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:14,640
asked if we we've talked about um

2024
01:20:12,239 --> 01:20:17,040
ownership. Here's the legal

2025
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:20,239
documentation. The way I read it, the

2026
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:22,320
county commission owns the airport

2027
01:20:20,239 --> 01:20:24,239
authority. Now, I'm not the legal guy.

2028
01:20:22,320 --> 01:20:25,280
Y'all are. I don't know how that works.

2029
01:20:24,239 --> 01:20:26,960
The only reason that's

2030
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:28,239
» He's our legal guy.

2031
01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:30,080
» Well, the only reason that's important

2032
01:20:28,239 --> 01:20:32,320
to me is we talked about grants a while

2033
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:35,360
ago, and sometimes the grants are are

2034
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:37,440
given based on that. So, if there's a

2035
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:38,960
way that we can tie things together that

2036
01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:42,400
open the door for us to go after grant

2037
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:43,840
monies as a combined entity, then that's

2038
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:46,560
» I understand. The only thing we do out

2039
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:49,120
there, we just point this. It's only

2040
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:50,080
control we have over the airport. We

2041
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:52,159
point the board.

2042
01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:54,640
» Well, but that's up to us. We could put

2043
01:20:52,159 --> 01:20:56,480
we could have done more than we have.

2044
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:58,400
» Uh

2045
01:20:56,480 --> 01:20:59,840
we did give them the land. You probably

2046
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:02,880
got that document. I've seen that

2047
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:05,040
document one time. There's a we we the

2048
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:07,360
county government deed the property out

2049
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:10,000
there and it's what 140 acres, 16 acres,

2050
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:11,600
whatever it is. Uh it belongs to the

2051
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:13,040
authority.

2052
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:15,440
Uh

2053
01:21:13,040 --> 01:21:16,800
» But the commission owns the authority if

2054
01:21:15,440 --> 01:21:17,280
I'm reading the documentation.

2055
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,760
» Yes. Correct.

2056
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:23,280
» And the commission can there again get

2057
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:25,440
my using my Jeff State legal degree.

2058
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:27,679
If if we appoint an authority and they

2059
01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:31,280
don't owe any bond issues or over

2060
01:21:27,679 --> 01:21:34,080
overriding debt, we can claim that the

2061
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:37,120
reason we appointed it was repurposes

2062
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:40,080
have been met and we have no purpose for

2063
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:42,880
it anymore. It's been met and we can

2064
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:42,880
dissolve it.

2065
01:21:43,199 --> 01:21:46,960
The the big thing holding us to not

2066
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:48,719
being able to dissolve a waterboard is

2067
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:48,960
if they owe money, which almost always

2068
01:21:48,719 --> 01:21:49,760
do.

2069
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,360
» They always do.

2070
01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:53,760
» Yeah. But same thing with the airport.

2071
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:55,600
So if the airport's doing great job and

2072
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:58,560
spend all their money and and they don't

2073
01:21:55,600 --> 01:22:00,000
have any debt, then I think the way the

2074
01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:02,480
law is set up for the appointing

2075
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:05,120
authority that set up the authority, it

2076
01:22:02,480 --> 01:22:08,000
occur something about we can we can just

2077
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:10,960
dissolve it if there's no financial

2078
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:12,800
reason that we have to keep

2079
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:14,080
That's so oversimplified.

2080
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:16,159
» I'm not advocating that.

2081
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,800
» No, nobody I don't think we would be.

2082
01:22:16,159 --> 01:22:18,000
The only

2083
01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:19,600
» Job of course I don't get paid

2084
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:21,760
» Sense at one time when we really got off

2085
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:23,840
into the weeds on that was that the

2086
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:25,760
county and the city of Pel City may be

2087
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,840
joined together like they do in some

2088
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:29,280
jurisdictions where city appoints half

2089
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:31,760
the board, the county appoints half the

2090
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:33,440
board. We had that discussion. Well, how

2091
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:36,719
would we do that? Well, the county would

2092
01:22:33,440 --> 01:22:39,120
dissolve the airport authority. then we

2093
01:22:36,719 --> 01:22:41,280
would reconstitute it as a airport

2094
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:43,280
authority that the city and the county

2095
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:45,360
had the appointments that that could be

2096
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:46,719
done but that just somewhere know that

2097
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:49,840
gives you an idea of what can be done

2098
01:22:46,719 --> 01:22:52,320
out there in that respect the airport is

2099
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:54,800
to me has always been really important

2100
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:58,159
Dr. John Eagerton was the was the head

2101
01:22:54,800 --> 01:23:00,960
of the state aviation thing through the

2102
01:22:58,159 --> 01:23:02,800
the Department of Transportation and he

2103
01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:04,719
was he was very active with counties.

2104
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:06,320
He'd come see me and he'd come see

2105
01:23:04,719 --> 01:23:07,760
commissioners and have lunch with people

2106
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:10,159
and they just did that all the time. I

2107
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:11,600
mean had a airplane free airplane to

2108
01:23:10,159 --> 01:23:13,840
flew all over the state and just visit

2109
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:18,239
people and he kept us up to date on the

2110
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:21,679
grants those kind of things. uh

2111
01:23:18,239 --> 01:23:23,280
that that process has not been in place

2112
01:23:21,679 --> 01:23:25,520
since he left. It's not as much

2113
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:28,239
interaction between ever. I don't even I

2114
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:30,159
can't tell you who today is is the uh

2115
01:23:28,239 --> 01:23:31,679
state the person with the state

2116
01:23:30,159 --> 01:23:34,880
department of transportation over

2117
01:23:31,679 --> 01:23:36,560
airports. I don't know who it is, but

2118
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:42,800
that that's where we got a lot of our

2119
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:44,639
our uh uh ideas and our uh guidance

2120
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:47,040
counseling is from that particular

2121
01:23:44,639 --> 01:23:50,639
person. So that a lot of things happened

2122
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:52,560
during that time and uh I used to go to

2123
01:23:50,639 --> 01:23:54,880
meetings all the time and commissioners

2124
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:56,719
some of the commissioners used to go and

2125
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:57,840
it's it's my fault I don't go I could

2126
01:23:56,719 --> 01:24:01,360
have gone to any meeting out there I

2127
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:02,560
want to well it's one of those things

2128
01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:05,679
where okay I got plenty of meetings to

2129
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:08,159
go to that seems to be running fine

2130
01:24:05,679 --> 01:24:09,280
and uh it was until I get back and find

2131
01:24:08,159 --> 01:24:10,639
out well the sheriff can't put a

2132
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:13,040
helicopter out there because of this

2133
01:24:10,639 --> 01:24:14,320
business. So that's what we're trying to

2134
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:17,120
pull back together, of course, but

2135
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:20,400
within that is the money. And I was

2136
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:23,679
surprised you say that the the insurance

2137
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:26,159
just on the liability insurance,

2138
01:24:23,679 --> 01:24:29,120
» The general liability is 3,800

2139
01:24:26,159 --> 01:24:31,040
» And the other is 38,000.

2140
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,080
» Oh. 38,000. That's the reason I was

2141
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:32,480
burning you up.

2142
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,320
» Yeah.

2143
01:24:32,480 --> 01:24:35,040
» Was when I saw that I was like, this is

2144
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:37,040
ridiculous.

2145
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:42,159
» Yeah. Now, we've got a lot of assets out

2146
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:42,960
there, but how can it be $38,000 a year?

2147
01:24:42,159 --> 01:24:44,960
So,

2148
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:47,280
» And are we and are we insuring some

2149
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:50,560
assets that uh people that's got planes

2150
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:52,400
out there benefit from?

2151
01:24:50,560 --> 01:24:53,920
» There may be there may be some things

2152
01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:55,280
that if you got if you're getting that

2153
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,400
kind of benefit out of protection of

2154
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,880
your airplane, you ought to be paying

2155
01:24:56,400 --> 01:25:00,320
more for your hanger rent.

2156
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:00,880
» They went up and I've got an airplane

2157
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:03,600
out there. So,

2158
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:06,239
» You don't want to go. [laughter]

2159
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:08,239
We went up last year. We did because

2160
01:25:06,239 --> 01:25:09,920
costs are increasing. Here's what I

2161
01:25:08,239 --> 01:25:12,960
would say. The board that's there now is

2162
01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:15,360
doing Ed. Lyall worries about money a

2163
01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:17,440
lot. If y'all know Lyall, he's and that

2164
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:18,719
and he'll tell you that every time we

2165
01:25:17,440 --> 01:25:19,840
talk about something, it's like, okay,

2166
01:25:18,719 --> 01:25:21,760
do we have the money to do that? Should

2167
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:24,239
we do that? So, that's great. So, we got

2168
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:26,159
a good mix of people on the board. Ike

2169
01:25:24,239 --> 01:25:27,840
Newton sold his business last year, and

2170
01:25:26,159 --> 01:25:29,679
that's pretty much his hobby. And he and

2171
01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:32,000
Wendy are at the airport every day, and

2172
01:25:29,679 --> 01:25:34,480
I think they do a pretty good job. him

2173
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:38,320
from a volunteer standpoint. Her

2174
01:25:34,480 --> 01:25:41,120
» As the as it has Yeah. I mean, so I

2175
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:44,159
think we've got a good team. My proposal

2176
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:46,080
to the commission is let's combine

2177
01:25:44,159 --> 01:25:49,199
forces and let's run this airport

2178
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:50,639
together as a team, not as separate. I'm

2179
01:25:49,199 --> 01:25:52,560
not advocating that we get rid of the

2180
01:25:50,639 --> 01:25:55,040
airport authority. What I'm saying is

2181
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:58,239
the airport authority is there to serve

2182
01:25:55,040 --> 01:26:00,480
you and to serve this county. and we I'm

2183
01:25:58,239 --> 01:26:03,040
going to be here on a regular basis

2184
01:26:00,480 --> 01:26:04,480
updating you on what's going on. I I

2185
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:05,920
don't have the information on the grants

2186
01:26:04,480 --> 01:26:09,199
and the hangers, but I'll come back with

2187
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:11,760
that so that you know u my message is

2188
01:26:09,199 --> 01:26:12,880
they're they want to interact with the

2189
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:14,639
commission and they want to work

2190
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:18,320
together. And it's not just about can

2191
01:26:14,639 --> 01:26:20,320
they get $41,000 in in revenue from Ken.

2192
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:22,880
It it's [laughter] now if you want to

2193
01:26:20,320 --> 01:26:25,840
write a check for more, we'll take it.

2194
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:27,440
It's it's they're contributing,

2195
01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:29,520
right? The money all comes to the county

2196
01:26:27,440 --> 01:26:32,000
commission and you control it. They're

2197
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:34,960
doing some some good things to try to

2198
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:36,880
stabilize and support themselves. So,

2199
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:38,320
I'm not here to say, "Well, you write

2200
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,760
them a check for half a million dollars

2201
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:41,440
every year." I just wanted you to see

2202
01:26:39,760 --> 01:26:43,280
what some of the expenses are. We're in

2203
01:26:41,440 --> 01:26:45,600
the process of looking at budgets. Let's

2204
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:47,679
forge a new relationship, identify

2205
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:50,159
things that you guys can help with

2206
01:26:47,679 --> 01:26:52,639
because it is aviation is one of the

2207
01:26:50,159 --> 01:26:55,520
fastest growing industries, especially

2208
01:26:52,639 --> 01:26:57,760
private aviation and things like

2209
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:59,280
extending the runway. I say little

2210
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:00,800
things. There's a cost to it, but

2211
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,960
there's grants available for it that you

2212
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:05,120
guys know the the ropes on probably much

2213
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:06,719
better than me. My job is to prepare you

2214
01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:08,560
with the documentation that you need so

2215
01:27:06,719 --> 01:27:10,320
that next time something comes up, it's

2216
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:12,719
not Bessemer, it's Fail City that's

2217
01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:15,440
getting the $4.5 million. That's what my

2218
01:27:12,719 --> 01:27:18,400
job is. So, thank you very much for the

2219
01:27:15,440 --> 01:27:20,000
opportunity. Um, I hope it hadn't been

2220
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:22,239
too much information and I know I was

2221
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:24,080
only on there for 15 minutes. So,

2222
01:27:22,239 --> 01:27:24,719
» Yeah, we we were ahead.

2223
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:26,639
» Yeah.

2224
01:27:24,719 --> 01:27:28,960
» Yeah. We appreciate you doing it. I

2225
01:27:26,639 --> 01:27:31,679
mean, we, you know, I've been sitting on

2226
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:33,360
his commission six, seven years. It's

2227
01:27:31,679 --> 01:27:36,560
first time I've ever seen any kind of

2228
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:38,960
reports from airport.

2229
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:40,719
» And part of that part of that since I've

2230
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:42,639
been here is my fault. I I probably

2231
01:27:40,719 --> 01:27:44,159
should have been going to meetings and

2232
01:27:42,639 --> 01:27:46,159
get in and staying caught up and I

2233
01:27:44,159 --> 01:27:47,920
hadn't I don't think I've been to one

2234
01:27:46,159 --> 01:27:50,400
board meeting since I've been back four

2235
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:53,440
years ago. Like I say,

2236
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:56,480
» This I got plenty to do. It's just a

2237
01:27:53,440 --> 01:27:59,520
pretty busy job. Uh but this is a pretty

2238
01:27:56,480 --> 01:28:02,239
important entity of county government.

2239
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:04,639
The statement was made by Dr. Ingerton

2240
01:28:02,239 --> 01:28:07,440
big meeting.

2241
01:28:04,639 --> 01:28:10,560
By the way, only a few counties have an

2242
01:28:07,440 --> 01:28:12,159
airport. That's why the county's

2243
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:14,159
insurance program doesn't furnish the

2244
01:28:12,159 --> 01:28:16,800
insurance anymore because not all

2245
01:28:14,159 --> 01:28:18,719
counties furnish it. So you you had to

2246
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:20,480
do the actuary with the seven or eight

2247
01:28:18,719 --> 01:28:23,520
counties that have an airport and the

2248
01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:24,800
other 40 said we don't we don't want we

2249
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:26,320
don't want that affecting our age. We

2250
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:28,800
don't have an airport. That kind of

2251
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:30,560
thing. So that's part of the issue. But

2252
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:32,080
one of the things he pointed out, we've

2253
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:35,360
always been compared somewhat to Coleman

2254
01:28:32,080 --> 01:28:38,239
for instance. Coleman is a very fast

2255
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:40,000
growing hot spot. has been there for

2256
01:28:38,239 --> 01:28:42,639
years and they're just now finding out

2257
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:46,239
how important their airport is. Dr. Eman

2258
01:28:42,639 --> 01:28:49,199
made this this statement. An airport

2259
01:28:46,239 --> 01:28:51,679
sitting out there is not the the thing

2260
01:28:49,199 --> 01:28:53,920
that that if an industry's moved in

2261
01:28:51,679 --> 01:28:55,199
here, seldom is an industry moving in

2262
01:28:53,920 --> 01:28:57,280
here says, "Oh, wow. Y'all got an

2263
01:28:55,199 --> 01:28:59,280
airport. I can land my airplane there."

2264
01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:01,679
He says, "Most the industries that you

2265
01:28:59,280 --> 01:29:02,880
recruit says, "Someday my industry be

2266
01:29:01,679 --> 01:29:05,280
big enough that I can have our airplane

2267
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:07,679
and y'all got an airport." They're

2268
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:09,840
looking for that success level. And if

2269
01:29:07,679 --> 01:29:12,719
you've got a good airport, that's an

2270
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:13,840
industry recruiting, too. If you don't,

2271
01:29:12,719 --> 01:29:15,679
not saying, "Well, y'all don't even have

2272
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:17,040
an airport." No, but someday we're going

2273
01:29:15,679 --> 01:29:20,400
to be good enough where we will, we're

2274
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:22,800
going to have us a citation jet. And and

2275
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:26,880
that's what helps bring it in. Now, in

2276
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:29,040
the meantime, with our growth with

2277
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:30,800
WKW and all these kind of things, the

2278
01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:34,080
airplanes landing out there, I live in

2279
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:36,320
the flight path, my submission. There's

2280
01:29:34,080 --> 01:29:37,920
more and more we do. My my business does

2281
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:39,679
business with Publix and I'm telling you

2282
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,960
they fly in and out. Walmart

2283
01:29:39,679 --> 01:29:42,639
» Twin engine big twin.

2284
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:44,480
» They're looking for places they can land

2285
01:29:42,639 --> 01:29:46,320
and people don't know there

2286
01:29:44,480 --> 01:29:48,239
» Jets. I mean there's a whole lot of $5

2287
01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:49,120
million plus airplanes land out there

2288
01:29:48,239 --> 01:29:52,239
every day.

2289
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:54,880
» Um real real quick, this is another

2290
01:29:52,239 --> 01:29:57,920
asset that you guys own. You can you you

2291
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:59,600
it's the Big Canoe Creek Preserve.

2292
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:00,880
We're going to they're going to do a

2293
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,080
better job of coming in and telling you

2294
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:03,840
what all they've been doing. They've got

2295
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:05,920
a ton of grants. Doug Morrison's done an

2296
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:08,080
outstanding job at developing

2297
01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:09,280
relationships with the state. They've

2298
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:11,360
never been in here, I don't think, and

2299
01:30:09,280 --> 01:30:13,520
asked for any money. Sprinkle's been

2300
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:16,639
supporting the majority of that. This is

2301
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:18,320
a fundraiser for the preserve. Right.

2302
01:30:16,639 --> 01:30:20,159
It's going to be at Homestead Hollow.

2303
01:30:18,320 --> 01:30:22,480
It's on September the 12th. All the

2304
01:30:20,159 --> 01:30:25,120
proceeds go back into the foundation to

2305
01:30:22,480 --> 01:30:27,280
help offset and pay some of the grant

2306
01:30:25,120 --> 01:30:29,360
matches that we have. Um, I'm gonna

2307
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:31,120
bring Doug in, let him elaborate more.

2308
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:34,320
He's much better than I am at talking

2309
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:35,920
about those grants and ecological, which

2310
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:38,159
you very well know. So, I think you

2311
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:40,639
could probably chime in on some of that.

2312
01:30:38,159 --> 01:30:43,040
But I wanted you to know this is

2313
01:30:40,639 --> 01:30:44,320
something that that we haven't done a

2314
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:45,600
good job of making sure that this

2315
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:47,600
commission, who is one of the owners,

2316
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:50,000
understands what's going on out there.

2317
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:51,760
But I've asked Doug and Candace to get

2318
01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:54,000
together and put some things together to

2319
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:56,080
come in and and explain to you the

2320
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:57,920
grants, how much, what's going on, so

2321
01:30:56,080 --> 01:31:00,480
you know what this asset is actually

2322
01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:01,920
doing for you as a commission. So this

2323
01:31:00,480 --> 01:31:04,000
is on the 12th. If you want to come,

2324
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:06,000
please come. If not, spread the word and

2325
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,320
you should be getting a press release at

2326
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:07,120
some point.

2327
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:10,000
» Okay, good.

2328
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:11,600
» Oh, Pepsi. I don't know who provides the

2329
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:13,120
drinks in this building, but I got a

2330
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:15,199
relationship with Pepsi that goes way

2331
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:17,600
back all the way up to the leadership.

2332
01:31:15,199 --> 01:31:19,440
They wrote a check for 25,000 and then

2333
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:21,840
subsequent to that they've given me two

2334
01:31:19,440 --> 01:31:24,320
given us two checks for 10,000. So

2335
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:26,880
they're the primary sponsor of of this

2336
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:28,320
and I expect their willingness to donate

2337
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:30,000
more to get bigger and bigger as the

2338
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:31,280
preserve grows.

2339
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:34,080
» We

2340
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:35,679
» Yeah. Uh

2341
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:38,639
do we even we the only place we

2342
01:31:35,679 --> 01:31:42,560
designate now or or we can designate

2343
01:31:38,639 --> 01:31:45,840
what uh brand uses our facility would be

2344
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:47,600
at the arena probably.

2345
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:50,400
We can do it out there. Otherwise,

2346
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:51,360
» Can we do it at the courthouse anymore?

2347
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:52,560
» You have to bid it out.

2348
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:54,400
» You have to bid it out.

2349
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:55,679
» So, we just stay away we stay away from

2350
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:56,159
that portion of it because we don't get

2351
01:31:55,679 --> 01:31:57,199
anything else.

2352
01:31:56,159 --> 01:31:59,440
» I just wanted you to know they're

2353
01:31:57,199 --> 01:32:01,280
supporting the county in ways that

2354
01:31:59,440 --> 01:32:02,480
through relationships

2355
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:03,760
that I think are going to benefit

2356
01:32:02,480 --> 01:32:04,960
everybody in the in the long run.

2357
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:07,199
» Everybody up here knows how active

2358
01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:08,880
you've been in yourself and I appreciate

2359
01:32:07,199 --> 01:32:11,360
that in a lot of ways. You found that

2360
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:13,840
out right after I was reelected and came

2361
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:15,760
back. You've been you cranked that up.

2362
01:32:13,840 --> 01:32:17,199
He was just waiting on me to leave 12

2363
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:18,800
years ago. So you can jump in there and

2364
01:32:17,199 --> 01:32:20,560
work. Go to work.

2365
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:23,520
» But Katrina's over there.

2366
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:24,800
» I think Candace is on this board.

2367
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:26,480
» She is.

2368
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:28,320
» With Philud

2369
01:32:26,480 --> 01:32:30,639
and the commissioners give me a lot of

2370
01:32:28,320 --> 01:32:32,000
leeway to do this so they won't have to.

2371
01:32:30,639 --> 01:32:34,400
I think

2372
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:36,400
» Doug does a great job. He does an

2373
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:39,360
outstanding. I'm not going to say but he

2374
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:42,960
does a great job. Period.

2375
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:45,120
The cautionary thing that we have is I

2376
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:48,080
don't need to go to Washington DC and

2377
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:50,239
ask for the money it takes to really

2378
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:52,960
make a facility like this be what it can

2379
01:32:50,239 --> 01:32:53,760
be acquisition of more land on the state

2380
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:55,199
level.

2381
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:57,679
» Going to need money if you do that for

2382
01:32:55,199 --> 01:32:59,679
trails and all that. There's some trails

2383
01:32:57,679 --> 01:33:01,600
grant money. And so I'll go to

2384
01:32:59,679 --> 01:33:04,719
Washington DC and ask for money from

2385
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:07,360
some congressmen and senators that don't

2386
01:33:04,719 --> 01:33:09,679
believe in global warming. So don't

2387
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:11,920
carry them entity up there that is

2388
01:33:09,679 --> 01:33:14,639
protecting the tri spot.

2389
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:16,719
» I don't listen Doug and I have been the

2390
01:33:14,639 --> 01:33:17,600
great thing about the relationship I

2391
01:33:16,719 --> 01:33:18,480
built with him is

2392
01:33:17,600 --> 01:33:19,760
» Money for roads.

2393
01:33:18,480 --> 01:33:21,920
» You got to be careful.

2394
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:24,480
» Yes. Sometimes he and I go headtohead

2395
01:33:21,920 --> 01:33:26,000
because he thinks in a different way I

2396
01:33:24,480 --> 01:33:27,600
see from a business and how do we do

2397
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:29,040
certain things and he's like no we can't

2398
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,719
we got to protect the bank and I like

2399
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:32,560
Doug I'm not going to do all that. We're

2400
01:33:30,719 --> 01:33:34,880
going to send a machine down there.

2401
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:36,239
So we I I understand completely, but

2402
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:38,560
that's the other thing that I think

2403
01:33:36,239 --> 01:33:40,400
makes him being part of what we're doing

2404
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:43,520
and the relationships that he's built

2405
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:46,080
with US wildlife and other federal and

2406
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:47,920
state and in private industries is

2407
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:49,760
really where I think he is going to

2408
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:50,960
excel in the long run. And there's

2409
01:33:49,760 --> 01:33:53,440
there's a lot of good things going on

2410
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:55,760
with education. Katrina, I'm sure, knows

2411
01:33:53,440 --> 01:33:57,840
based on reports that he gives to to

2412
01:33:55,760 --> 01:34:00,000
Springle on a regular basis. But that's

2413
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:01,600
that's another gem that what we're

2414
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:03,520
trying to do, and I'm speaking more as

2415
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:05,199
the chairman of that foundation, is

2416
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:06,960
we're trying to identify ways that we

2417
01:34:05,199 --> 01:34:09,840
can raise money through grants, private

2418
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:12,000
donations to not necessarily always have

2419
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:13,840
the burden on Spring Bowl, but also not

2420
01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:15,520
have to come here or go to the state.

2421
01:34:13,840 --> 01:34:17,760
We're doing a better job of asking the

2422
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:19,120
state because they told us from day one,

2423
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:20,639
all you got to do is ask. Well, you know

2424
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:21,840
what? We've done a poor job of doing

2425
01:34:20,639 --> 01:34:25,360
asking.

2426
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:26,800
» Now we're asking. Um they're proud of of

2427
01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:28,560
what's happening out there. and I know

2428
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:30,159
that that you guys are too, the whole

2429
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:32,320
county is. I just wanted to take a

2430
01:34:30,159 --> 01:34:34,960
minute to tell you what this is about,

2431
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:37,120
what it's for, and invite you out. But

2432
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:38,080
please spread the word, too.

2433
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:41,040
» Thank you very much.

2434
01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:42,480
» Thank you. Any y'all have any questions?

2435
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:45,280
» No, other than the fact that when they

2436
01:34:42,480 --> 01:34:47,760
do go, when Joey goes to Washington,

2437
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:49,360
» You need to go alone.

2438
01:34:47,760 --> 01:34:51,760
» Oh, wow. Yeah. Let me

2439
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:54,400
» We send Candace. Well, we make We send

2440
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:56,480
the right person. We sending Candace.

2441
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:59,040
» You should consider going. Yeah, because

2442
01:34:56,480 --> 01:35:01,600
coach is once coach gets in his chair,

2443
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:03,120
new chair, I plan on working with those

2444
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:04,320
relationships, too, to see what I can do

2445
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:05,199
to help, not just

2446
01:35:04,320 --> 01:35:09,480
» Yeah.

2447
01:35:05,199 --> 01:35:09,480
» But the county as a whole. So,

2448
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:13,920
» Relationship we have with state lands

2449
01:35:12,480 --> 01:35:16,560
division,

2450
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:18,960
» All this those grant monies are out

2451
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:20,639
there. Candace has been really good at

2452
01:35:18,960 --> 01:35:23,360
finding them. Things we wouldn't have

2453
01:35:20,639 --> 01:35:25,199
even asked for. She said, "What about

2454
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:26,639
let's get this little $100,000 over here

2455
01:35:25,199 --> 01:35:27,120
for this?" Well, we really don't have

2456
01:35:26,639 --> 01:35:28,480
anything to do with

2457
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:30,159
» You seem to know a lot about all that.

2458
01:35:28,480 --> 01:35:31,040
When you retire, won't you help us go

2459
01:35:30,159 --> 01:35:32,400
snoop those out?

2460
01:35:31,040 --> 01:35:34,800
» I'll just I'll just be happy y'all

2461
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:36,719
getting all you can get.

2462
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:38,560
» He may want to charge us a find or

2463
01:35:36,719 --> 01:35:41,280
something. [laughter]

2464
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:43,520
I I November the 11th, I'll become a

2465
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:46,159
consultant. And and and Dave's already

2466
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:47,840
told me how much he's going to pay me.

2467
01:35:46,159 --> 01:35:50,239
And there won't be anybody fighting for

2468
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:52,239
my consulting job.

2469
01:35:50,239 --> 01:35:53,280
» Thank you very much.

2470
01:35:52,239 --> 01:35:57,600
Thank you.

2471
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:59,280
» Okay. Uh okay. I'm glad we are caught up

2472
01:35:57,600 --> 01:36:01,440
on that. Right here at budget time is a

2473
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:04,080
good time for that to happen.

2474
01:36:01,440 --> 01:36:05,360
» Now then, Commissioner Parker, where do

2475
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:07,199
I go from there?

2476
01:36:05,360 --> 01:36:10,280
» Back over here number one.

2477
01:36:07,199 --> 01:36:10,280
» All right.

2478
01:36:10,639 --> 01:36:15,600
» Now,

2479
01:36:13,199 --> 01:36:18,639
okay. Now, we'll move on to the meat

2480
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:21,040
page of the of the work session. Item

2481
01:36:18,639 --> 01:36:22,639
number one, discuss approval of the FY27

2482
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:24,880
Alabama Department of Youth Services

2483
01:36:22,639 --> 01:36:27,440
Agency Grant Agreement Award in the

2484
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:29,840
amount of $343,431

2485
01:36:27,440 --> 01:36:32,159
for the St. Clair County Day Program.

2486
01:36:29,840 --> 01:36:34,239
The day program is a is literally a

2487
01:36:32,159 --> 01:36:36,400
program when you arrest a juvenile. This

2488
01:36:34,239 --> 01:36:37,840
is this is a thumbnail thing. You arrest

2489
01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:40,320
a juvenile, you still don't get around

2490
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:42,880
the law that you got to educate 16 up to

2491
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:43,679
16 years old at a government education,

2492
01:36:42,880 --> 01:36:45,679
right?

2493
01:36:43,679 --> 01:36:47,760
» So the day program is the public

2494
01:36:45,679 --> 01:36:49,261
education for

2495
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:50,239
not be [laughter] in court.

2496
01:36:49,261 --> 01:36:51,760
[clears throat]

2497
01:36:50,239 --> 01:36:53,199
» And it's paid for out of a grant money

2498
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:53,760
that we have to do certain things to get

2499
01:36:53,199 --> 01:36:54,719
the grant

2500
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:56,000
» Through Dys.

2501
01:36:54,719 --> 01:36:57,679
» Yeah. Through Dys.

2502
01:36:56,000 --> 01:36:59,360
» That money just passes through us to go

2503
01:36:57,679 --> 01:36:59,679
to the D.

2504
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:02,159
» Okay.

2505
01:36:59,679 --> 01:37:03,199
» So that's what this one will be.

2506
01:37:02,159 --> 01:37:05,440
» Put it on. Put it on.

2507
01:37:03,199 --> 01:37:07,360
» Put it on the agenda. Item two, discuss

2508
01:37:05,440 --> 01:37:09,199
approval of three-year memorandum

2509
01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:10,480
understanding between Sler County

2510
01:37:09,199 --> 01:37:12,639
Commission, Alabama Law Enforcement

2511
01:37:10,480 --> 01:37:15,600
Agency for the PE city location pending

2512
01:37:12,639 --> 01:37:17,280
county attorney review. Okay. We ready

2513
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:17,600
to move forward on that? into your

2514
01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:18,719
review.

2515
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:21,679
» Yes.

2516
01:37:18,719 --> 01:37:23,360
» Item three, discuss doing the pro pronto

2517
01:37:21,679 --> 01:37:24,800
track agreement. Let me back up a

2518
01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:26,000
minute. Three-year memorandum of

2519
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:28,080
understanding between S County

2520
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:30,560
Commission and Aaliyah. I know we're

2521
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:32,239
restricted to three-year contracts by

2522
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:34,480
most entities. Let's just say a private

2523
01:37:32,239 --> 01:37:36,239
entity that we we contract for. We can

2524
01:37:34,480 --> 01:37:39,119
only do a three-year contract unless

2525
01:37:36,239 --> 01:37:40,960
it's for the county engineers

2526
01:37:39,119 --> 01:37:43,360
personnel contract. We can do his up to

2527
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:45,920
five. Most of them are three. Does that

2528
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:48,320
include if we in a state contract and

2529
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:50,639
did we do this on a longer

2530
01:37:48,320 --> 01:37:52,320
» I do not know that something

2531
01:37:50,639 --> 01:37:52,880
» But I know I know it is with with

2532
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:53,360
private

2533
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:54,960
» Yes sir.

2534
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:55,920
» But it may be we can do with a

2535
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:57,360
government entity

2536
01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:58,880
» Right longer than that.

2537
01:37:57,360 --> 01:38:00,159
» Yeah. And renew it. So I wouldn't have

2538
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:02,400
to do this. I mean they're not going

2539
01:38:00,159 --> 01:38:04,480
anywhere until we tell them you know

2540
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:07,679
they'll ask us for another bill. Uh

2541
01:38:04,480 --> 01:38:10,080
we'll look into that. Uh item three,

2542
01:38:07,679 --> 01:38:12,080
discuss uh renewing the pronto track

2543
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:16,119
agreement for ankle monitoring for the

2544
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:16,119
chairman. Oh, it wasn't me.

2545
01:38:16,239 --> 01:38:19,119
» This service is under the safety and

2546
01:38:17,679 --> 01:38:19,760
security clause. We already put that on

2547
01:38:19,119 --> 01:38:21,440
there.

2548
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,080
» Sir, can we move that to the next work

2549
01:38:21,440 --> 01:38:25,360
session?

2550
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:27,760
» We sure can.

2551
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:31,119
» Okay. Move to the next work session.

2552
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:32,480
Item four, discuss adop resolution 2640

2553
01:38:31,119 --> 01:38:35,199
to increase the dispersement of the

2554
01:38:32,480 --> 01:38:38,080
lodging tax from 6% to 10%. Resolution

2555
01:38:35,199 --> 01:38:40,000
2640 replaces and repeals resolution uh

2556
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:42,960
2025-51

2557
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:44,639
in to in totality and any and all other

2558
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:46,719
resolutions ordinances in conflict here

2559
01:38:44,639 --> 01:38:47,760
with effective December 1st, 2026. Ready

2560
01:38:46,719 --> 01:38:48,239
to put that on there?

2561
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:51,280
» Yes.

2562
01:38:48,239 --> 01:38:54,639
» Okay. Item five, discuss transferring

2563
01:38:51,280 --> 01:38:56,400
the following six uh Huelet Packard

2564
01:38:54,639 --> 01:38:59,119
delete tablets from the commission

2565
01:38:56,400 --> 01:39:00,560
office to the IT division. So, we'd

2566
01:38:59,119 --> 01:39:01,920
actually be transferring them stays

2567
01:39:00,560 --> 01:39:02,880
within under the umbrella of the

2568
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:04,719
commission, but it goes from the

2569
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:06,159
commission offic's records over to

2570
01:39:04,719 --> 01:39:08,719
technology records. Right.

2571
01:39:06,159 --> 01:39:10,639
» Okay. Ready to do that. Six.

2572
01:39:08,719 --> 01:39:13,199
Request from asset manager Ashley Haye

2573
01:39:10,639 --> 01:39:14,480
to purchase uh signage from Smart Sign

2574
01:39:13,199 --> 01:39:17,440
for the Sinclair County Agricultural

2575
01:39:14,480 --> 01:39:20,800
Mult224

2576
01:39:17,440 --> 01:39:22,239
with the county credit card.

2577
01:39:20,800 --> 01:39:25,840
» She got a pen credit card.

2578
01:39:22,239 --> 01:39:26,800
» No, she has to use mine or I I make I

2579
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,560
purchase it for her.

2580
01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:30,480
» I just check it.

2581
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:31,280
And chairman, let's back up to four if

2582
01:39:30,480 --> 01:39:31,600
you don't mind.

2583
01:39:31,280 --> 01:39:34,080
» Okay.

2584
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:35,920
» Um, anywhere except for City of Pel

2585
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:39,199
City, City of Pel City on that lodging

2586
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:41,280
tax will be nine will be 9%.

2587
01:39:39,199 --> 01:39:42,719
» Are we Well, it's in the resolution

2588
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:43,360
though that takes care of that.

2589
01:39:42,719 --> 01:39:44,000
» Yes, sir.

2590
01:39:43,360 --> 01:39:46,080
» Okay.

2591
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:48,800
» Everywhere else will be 10%.

2592
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:50,400
» Then we probably have we we hadn't done

2593
01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:52,000
this at all pending county attorney

2594
01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:53,760
review. We probably need to pass this

2595
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:55,280
resolution pending your review to give

2596
01:39:53,760 --> 01:39:55,840
you time to look these over. It doesn't

2597
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:58,080
come up.

2598
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:58,960
» I've looked I've looked at He's already

2599
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:00,239
reviewed.

2600
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:03,119
» But if we're going to say we're passing

2601
01:40:00,239 --> 01:40:05,520
that resolution, it's passed. Period.

2602
01:40:03,119 --> 01:40:08,560
» It It's already prepared. It's got um

2603
01:40:05,520 --> 01:40:12,480
for the city of P City has got increase

2604
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:17,440
from 5% to 9% anywhere out of the city

2605
01:40:12,480 --> 01:40:18,560
limits of P City is nine 6% to 10%.

2606
01:40:17,440 --> 01:40:21,560
» Good enough.

2607
01:40:18,560 --> 01:40:21,560
» Okay.

2608
01:40:21,600 --> 01:40:25,199
All right. I think we're I think we're

2609
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:26,560
good to go on that. Mhm.

2610
01:40:25,199 --> 01:40:28,320
» The word is like y'all want. Y'all be

2611
01:40:26,560 --> 01:40:30,239
sure and look it over real good before

2612
01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:31,760
we take action. Item seven, discuss

2613
01:40:30,239 --> 01:40:36,000
request property manager Rod Wolf

2614
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:38,239
transfer a gun safe inventory 9042 to

2615
01:40:36,000 --> 01:40:40,639
the coroner's office.

2616
01:40:38,239 --> 01:40:41,520
» Why does he What's a carer need a gun

2617
01:40:40,639 --> 01:40:42,159
safe for?

2618
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:44,880
» I don't know.

2619
01:40:42,159 --> 01:40:47,684
» Was it on the maintenances?

2620
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:48,560
» I don't want to know.

2621
01:40:47,684 --> 01:40:51,119
[laughter]

2622
01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:53,920
» Not sure I do.

2623
01:40:51,119 --> 01:40:56,719
» Like that sounds like a story. Let him

2624
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:59,360
have he shouldn't even be towing a gun.

2625
01:40:56,719 --> 01:41:00,239
Say maybe he's running short for

2626
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:01,600
storage.

2627
01:41:00,239 --> 01:41:03,440
» Been there ever since I've been here.

2628
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:05,040
» Yeah, that's true. That

2629
01:41:03,440 --> 01:41:07,119
» Came about. Sometimes if they pick up a

2630
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:08,800
body in an accident, they like to put

2631
01:41:07,119 --> 01:41:09,840
their personal belongings in the same

2632
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:12,560
place till they

2633
01:41:09,840 --> 01:41:14,320
» He had a safe for that. But I'm talking

2634
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:16,080
He's wanting a gun safe, too.

2635
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:18,159
» He's already got it. It's just been

2636
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:20,639
under the maintenance.

2637
01:41:18,159 --> 01:41:22,560
» It's been It's been he that safe he

2638
01:41:20,639 --> 01:41:24,800
that's the safe he got. He's been using.

2639
01:41:22,560 --> 01:41:26,320
Okay, you need to clarify that.

2640
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:28,080
» Cleaning up the inventory.

2641
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:29,119
» Transfer it to you.

2642
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:32,159
» Transfer it from me.

2643
01:41:29,119 --> 01:41:34,080
» I think we can do that.

2644
01:41:32,159 --> 01:41:36,639
» Item eight, discuss request propert

2645
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:38,320
manager Rod Wolf transfer HP Pro Book

2646
01:41:36,639 --> 01:41:42,800
455

2647
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:44,880
uh over to the IT division. Okay.

2648
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:46,480
Are we transferring usable items here

2649
01:41:44,880 --> 01:41:48,480
and they're and they're deciding later

2650
01:41:46,480 --> 01:41:50,800
to use them or what are we doing here?

2651
01:41:48,480 --> 01:41:53,360
They may come back and they may not get

2652
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:56,000
rid of them. one. They've already It's

2653
01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:57,840
already been in their possession.

2654
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:58,880
» They've had it. It's just still been on

2655
01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:00,560
my inventory.

2656
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:02,159
» We're just cleaning it up. Good. Well,

2657
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:05,520
thank you for that.

2658
01:42:02,159 --> 01:42:07,119
» Item nine, discuss request propert.

2659
01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:09,520
The following. There's a copy in your

2660
01:42:07,119 --> 01:42:13,119
folder. Office furniture vacuum gas

2661
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:14,800
compressor. Gas compressor.

2662
01:42:13,119 --> 01:42:17,800
» I don't know what that is. Is that like

2663
01:42:14,800 --> 01:42:17,800
laughing?

2664
01:42:22,639 --> 01:42:26,639
Uh anyway, y'all look through the list

2665
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:29,360
right there. [snorts]

2666
01:42:26,639 --> 01:42:31,199
» So all those are broke,

2667
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:34,800
nonusable.

2668
01:42:31,199 --> 01:42:35,920
» Broke or have not seen it since I've

2669
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:37,600
been

2670
01:42:35,920 --> 01:42:39,040
» Is that truck bed cover that one off

2671
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:40,159
that old truck used to belong to Rich

2672
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:42,639
Vowski?

2673
01:42:40,159 --> 01:42:44,080
» No, that truck bed cover is the one that

2674
01:42:42,639 --> 01:42:45,600
Lynn was driving. Oh,

2675
01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:46,480
» Okay. That's the one used to be Rich

2676
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:47,199
Bowski, was it?

2677
01:42:46,480 --> 01:42:50,159
» Was it?

2678
01:42:47,199 --> 01:42:51,199
» I don't think so. Yeah.

2679
01:42:50,159 --> 01:42:52,400
» Okay.

2680
01:42:51,199 --> 01:42:54,960
» Yeah, it needs to go.

2681
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:57,520
» Well, it was gone. It's been gone.

2682
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:58,400
» Okay. This is cleaning up. You're in

2683
01:42:57,520 --> 01:43:00,159
» Clean it up.

2684
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:02,000
» All right.

2685
01:43:00,159 --> 01:43:04,080
Commission ready. Item 10. Discuss

2686
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:06,560
request revenue commissioner Kim Crow to

2687
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:08,960
issue a formal cancellation letter to

2688
01:43:06,560 --> 01:43:10,400
the American Financial Credit Services.

2689
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:11,760
This request indicates desire to

2690
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:14,719
terminate the county's existing

2691
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:17,440
agreement with AFCS for delinquent tax

2692
01:43:14,719 --> 01:43:18,800
collections. Okay. It's hard to out of

2693
01:43:17,440 --> 01:43:22,400
here, but I believe that's pretty well

2694
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:25,119
self-explanatory. Good. Item 11, discuss

2695
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:28,719
request revenue chief clerk Tony Rich

2696
01:43:25,119 --> 01:43:30,320
paid GoDaddy in the amount of $75.96

2697
01:43:28,719 --> 01:43:33,199
can credit card for two-year domain

2698
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:35,040
renewal. Ready to do that? Item 12,

2699
01:43:33,199 --> 01:43:39,199
discuss request EMA director Patrice

2700
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:41,760
Guski to accept the FY2025-26

2701
01:43:39,199 --> 01:43:43,280
EMPG cooperative agreement. Uh the

2702
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:45,600
period of performance for this funding

2703
01:43:43,280 --> 01:43:48,000
covers FY26.

2704
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:53,600
There are two amounts listed. The added

2705
01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:56,960
amount includes uh included as 25 ES-1

2706
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:59,040
is one of five reset supplemental EMPG

2707
01:43:56,960 --> 01:44:02,639
payments that will be made over a 5-year

2708
01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:04,639
period starting in 2026 ending in 2030.

2709
01:44:02,639 --> 01:44:06,800
Those EMPG grants are federal grants.

2710
01:44:04,639 --> 01:44:09,119
That's one of the main things that a

2711
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:11,440
commission ends up in DC at the national

2712
01:44:09,119 --> 01:44:13,440
conference level because the all the

2713
01:44:11,440 --> 01:44:16,719
counties [snorts] in the United States

2714
01:44:13,440 --> 01:44:18,480
fight for continuation of EMPG. That's

2715
01:44:16,719 --> 01:44:21,217
pretty well that's that's some federal

2716
01:44:18,480 --> 01:44:23,040
money comes down to have pay for EMA.

2717
01:44:21,217 --> 01:44:25,199
[clears throat] Item 13 discuss Sheriff

2718
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:27,280
Murray to renew Randy Hurst employment

2719
01:44:25,199 --> 01:44:28,000
contract for one year.

2720
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:30,400
» Yep.

2721
01:44:28,000 --> 01:44:32,320
» Okay. Item 14, discuss request sheriff

2722
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:34,080
Murray to let bid to remodel the

2723
01:44:32,320 --> 01:44:36,480
sheriff's office former bank building in

2724
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:38,000
Asheville. So Sheriff Murray can let a

2725
01:44:36,480 --> 01:44:39,679
bid

2726
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:43,199
» And the bid will come back to the county

2727
01:44:39,679 --> 01:44:45,040
commission for up or down

2728
01:44:43,199 --> 01:44:47,360
» Based on the amount and based on what

2729
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:48,800
the the commission, you know, agrees

2730
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:52,080
with what's going on over there.

2731
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:54,159
» Okay. Item 15, discussion question.

2732
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:55,520
Sheriff Mary to let bid for build for a

2733
01:44:54,159 --> 01:44:58,080
building to store the community

2734
01:44:55,520 --> 01:45:00,960
engagement vehicle in Pel City. That's

2735
01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:02,560
the uh the new uh mobile command

2736
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:06,639
» Mobile command building that's coming to

2737
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:08,880
Pel City and this will uh allow the

2738
01:45:06,639 --> 01:45:11,040
sheriff to let a bid for that building

2739
01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:12,800
and the same thing's true on that. That

2740
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:14,480
would be true on the one at Asheville.

2741
01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:16,320
It's it'll come to the county

2742
01:45:14,480 --> 01:45:18,159
commission. Y'all can look at it and see

2743
01:45:16,320 --> 01:45:20,800
if that's what you want. [snorts] Item

2744
01:45:18,159 --> 01:45:23,119
16, discuss request district all harm to

2745
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:25,520
surplus disposal of the following

2746
01:45:23,119 --> 01:45:28,400
inventory 48.86 86 the left return

2747
01:45:25,520 --> 01:45:30,239
executive desk and inventory 509 a

2748
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:31,040
curvadenza

2749
01:45:30,239 --> 01:45:33,520
» Put it on there

2750
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:35,679
» Put it on there item 17 discuss travel

2751
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:38,000
request be a copy of the travel request

2752
01:45:35,679 --> 01:45:42,080
in there travel for this year sort of

2753
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:43,748
playing out a little bit um

2754
01:45:42,080 --> 01:45:45,040
but you'll have the travel request

2755
01:45:43,748 --> 01:45:46,639
[clears throat] in there for the rest of

2756
01:45:45,040 --> 01:45:48,639
the year we'll

2757
01:45:46,639 --> 01:45:49,040
» Well some of it's for next fiscal year

2758
01:45:48,639 --> 01:45:50,639
too

2759
01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:51,600
» Into the new budget

2760
01:45:50,639 --> 01:45:55,119
» Yes sir

2761
01:45:51,600 --> 01:45:55,760
» Okay item team discuss uh any board

2762
01:45:55,119 --> 01:45:59,440
appointments.

2763
01:45:55,760 --> 01:46:02,440
» Yeah, we don't have one.

2764
01:45:59,440 --> 01:46:02,440
» What

2765
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:07,560
department

2766
01:46:04,239 --> 01:46:07,560
» Human resources?

2767
01:46:08,159 --> 01:46:12,360
» Okay. Yeah, we discuss that.

2768
01:46:16,159 --> 01:46:19,159
Okay.

2769
01:46:20,480 --> 01:46:26,600
Sanders reappoint to DHR. Any others?

2770
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:26,600
Anybody know of

2771
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:38,168
that one for somebody? [laughter]

2772
01:46:38,960 --> 01:46:45,119
Oh me

2773
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:51,239
in 4A

2774
01:46:45,119 --> 01:46:51,239
people are leaving us we go uh

2775
01:46:54,080 --> 01:47:01,040
we we've had vacancies on those for a

2776
01:46:57,040 --> 01:47:02,480
while. That's something that uh

2777
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:05,360
I I'll meet with Dave and he'll know

2778
01:47:02,480 --> 01:47:06,960
what he may may or may not want to if

2779
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:08,639
you want to hold on some of these

2780
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:10,960
talking about a couple months. These are

2781
01:47:08,639 --> 01:47:13,040
the appointments for M4A is the aging

2782
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:14,719
program we belong to. Uh

2783
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:16,960
» That'd be a good good appointment for

2784
01:47:14,719 --> 01:47:19,119
Ashley sitting right there. Ashley.

2785
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:22,960
» There you go. Are you familiar with M4A?

2786
01:47:19,119 --> 01:47:25,360
Ashley just Okay. Uh sit on that board.

2787
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:26,960
» I enjoyed it while I could.

2788
01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:29,840
» That may be that may be something we

2789
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:31,920
look at. That'd be great. But it's going

2790
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:33,920
we don't want to stack it up for Dave to

2791
01:47:31,920 --> 01:47:36,159
have to deal with these. M4A is the

2792
01:47:33,920 --> 01:47:39,280
senior citizen program where the federal

2793
01:47:36,159 --> 01:47:41,920
money flows through it. And M4A is four

2794
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:42,560
counties. Shelby, St. Clair, Blunt,

2795
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:43,360
Jeff,

2796
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:45,600
» Jefferson.

2797
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:49,679
» Yeah. So that's the four counties in

2798
01:47:45,600 --> 01:47:51,440
M4A, which is a nonprofit entity that

2799
01:47:49,679 --> 01:47:53,520
runs the agent program that the money

2800
01:47:51,440 --> 01:47:55,040
flows through and we make appointments

2801
01:47:53,520 --> 01:47:58,800
to that. Each one of those four counties

2802
01:47:55,040 --> 01:48:00,719
makes appointments to it. Uh

2803
01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:03,360
let's see. Josh. Yeah, Josh Taylor was

2804
01:48:00,719 --> 01:48:06,560
on there. That's what I said. Jos was on

2805
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:10,800
there and he designed it. Ashley Ashley

2806
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:13,360
Katrina Katrina was on this as an

2807
01:48:10,800 --> 01:48:14,639
» She

2808
01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:16,320
got

2809
01:48:14,639 --> 01:48:17,920
» Well, if you're good today and and

2810
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:19,920
you're good. I can't can't imagine a

2811
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:21,280
better entity and and really a better

2812
01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:23,760
person because you're already aware of

2813
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:25,679
it and and working through your your

2814
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:28,239
know about the the programs they have

2815
01:48:25,679 --> 01:48:29,679
and they they uh kind of dovetail into

2816
01:48:28,239 --> 01:48:30,880
some of the things that extension does

2817
01:48:29,679 --> 01:48:31,280
too.

2818
01:48:30,880 --> 01:48:33,360
Okay.

2819
01:48:31,280 --> 01:48:34,080
» Do you have to have an alternate member?

2820
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:36,480
» No, you don't have

2821
01:48:34,080 --> 01:48:36,880
» I don't think so. You don't have to have

2822
01:48:36,480 --> 01:48:39,440
» Okay.

2823
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:41,280
» We just made fill out of the seat.

2824
01:48:39,440 --> 01:48:42,560
» We got

2825
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:44,080
We have a say on that.

2826
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:45,440
» Well, that's my appointment. So, you can

2827
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:48,239
quit talking about it. I'm going to

2828
01:48:45,440 --> 01:48:51,760
recommend Ashley in this one of my final

2829
01:48:48,239 --> 01:48:56,199
acts of official duty here.

2830
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:56,199
» Glad glad we got together on that.

2831
01:48:56,880 --> 01:49:00,960
» Congratulations.

2832
01:48:58,940 --> 01:49:02,800
» [laughter]

2833
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:05,520
» Train is going to congratulate me in

2834
01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:07,840
November. [laughter]

2835
01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:10,880
» Okay.

2836
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:12,639
» Very good. All right. Uh we've got a

2837
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:15,280
couple coming up, but we'll discuss

2838
01:49:12,639 --> 01:49:16,880
those here. I want to discuss one

2839
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:19,440
particular one today before he comes

2840
01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:20,960
back in. A couple that we've got right

2841
01:49:19,440 --> 01:49:23,440
now, and that is the healthcare

2842
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:26,239
authority. The healthcare author is not

2843
01:49:23,440 --> 01:49:28,159
on here because it doesn't have official

2844
01:49:26,239 --> 01:49:31,360
openings, but we have anticipated a

2845
01:49:28,159 --> 01:49:33,040
couple anticipated openings. And there

2846
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:34,719
could be and probably will be some

2847
01:49:33,040 --> 01:49:36,239
pretty big activity going on with the

2848
01:49:34,719 --> 01:49:38,719
healthcare authority because they own

2849
01:49:36,239 --> 01:49:41,119
the hospital. St. Clair County

2850
01:49:38,719 --> 01:49:43,280
Healthcare Authority owns the hospital

2851
01:49:41,119 --> 01:49:45,199
and with expansion of things out at the

2852
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:49,679
hospital. That's they they would be very

2853
01:49:45,199 --> 01:49:52,080
involved. So, we'll get together on that

2854
01:49:49,679 --> 01:49:53,840
ready to move on that. Uh that's already

2855
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:56,639
had some input.

2856
01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:58,560
» Uh I don't know of another one. We we

2857
01:49:56,639 --> 01:49:59,440
put we threw you under the bus on Cus

2858
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:00,159
Valley.

2859
01:49:59,440 --> 01:50:02,560
» Yeah.

2860
01:50:00,159 --> 01:50:04,960
» Water. So you're on it.

2861
01:50:02,560 --> 01:50:05,520
» I'm saving that one up there. Okay.

2862
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:06,880
Being saved.

2863
01:50:05,520 --> 01:50:07,280
» You went to a meeting the other day, did

2864
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:08,800
you?

2865
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:10,800
» Were you in charge now? You got it under

2866
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:14,639
control.

2867
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:16,560
» We're selling water. Sell the water.

2868
01:50:14,639 --> 01:50:18,159
» Somebody's going to have to step up.

2869
01:50:16,560 --> 01:50:18,800
» Sell it to somebody.

2870
01:50:18,159 --> 01:50:20,000
» Mental health.

2871
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:22,239
» Somebody's going to buy it.

2872
01:50:20,000 --> 01:50:24,400
» Yeah. that mental health thing. Uh we

2873
01:50:22,239 --> 01:50:25,840
had a really good meeting. In fact, you

2874
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:28,320
can see how important it was at the

2875
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:29,920
conference. The state director of mental

2876
01:50:28,320 --> 01:50:32,560
health actually gave breakout sessions

2877
01:50:29,920 --> 01:50:33,920
on about to about three entities. So, uh

2878
01:50:32,560 --> 01:50:37,119
there's a lot of changes in mental

2879
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:39,199
health. Uh a lot of it facilitated or a

2880
01:50:37,119 --> 01:50:42,000
lot of it

2881
01:50:39,199 --> 01:50:44,320
actually stimulated by so much mental

2882
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:47,040
health problem in the jails. That's

2883
01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:50,719
that's a problem.

2884
01:50:47,040 --> 01:50:52,719
So, we need to we need I suspect that

2885
01:50:50,719 --> 01:50:54,239
when we change administrations down

2886
01:50:52,719 --> 01:50:57,199
there, I think you're going to have much

2887
01:50:54,239 --> 01:50:59,679
more required discussion on the local

2888
01:50:57,199 --> 01:51:01,280
level about what happens in mental

2889
01:50:59,679 --> 01:51:02,000
health.

2890
01:51:01,280 --> 01:51:04,320
It [clears throat]

2891
01:51:02,000 --> 01:51:06,880
statement was made by her. They wanted

2892
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:08,800
more local involvement in the mental

2893
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:11,360
health problem because right now it it

2894
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:13,520
is a probate judge and sheriff's problem

2895
01:51:11,360 --> 01:51:15,280
and and well, if it's somebody one of

2896
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:16,239
their problems, we have to pay for it.

2897
01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:17,679
We have to figure out where the money

2898
01:51:16,239 --> 01:51:20,239
comes from. So, it's going to be real

2899
01:51:17,679 --> 01:51:21,760
important when that comes up. Uh

2900
01:51:20,239 --> 01:51:23,840
Birmingham Metropolitan Planning

2901
01:51:21,760 --> 01:51:26,560
Organization. Don't let Birmingham part

2902
01:51:23,840 --> 01:51:27,520
scare you. Uh that that scares away a

2903
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:29,360
lot of people just because it has

2904
01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:31,280
Birmingham's name on it. The

2905
01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:32,960
Metropolitan Planning Organization is

2906
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:34,480
part of the regional planning commission

2907
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:37,679
and Katrina's probably is aware of this.

2908
01:51:34,480 --> 01:51:41,440
Anybody working with the city, uh by

2909
01:51:37,679 --> 01:51:45,199
law, St. Clair County is in the region

2910
01:51:41,440 --> 01:51:46,960
that is covered by regional planning

2911
01:51:45,199 --> 01:51:49,679
commission of greater Birmingham. By

2912
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:51,599
law, we would like to be just because of

2913
01:51:49,679 --> 01:51:55,280
the working with the different entities.

2914
01:51:51,599 --> 01:51:56,960
We would like to be part of the uh cous

2915
01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:58,639
valley

2916
01:51:56,960 --> 01:52:00,719
commission whatever it but it would be

2917
01:51:58,639 --> 01:52:03,199
the people east of us. Uh I think that

2918
01:52:00,719 --> 01:52:04,880
would be Tallaladega County and Calhoun

2919
01:52:03,199 --> 01:52:06,000
County. But we can't. At one time we

2920
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:08,239
said we're just going to go over there

2921
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:10,960
and join them. Well, you can't. It's in

2922
01:52:08,239 --> 01:52:13,440
the it's in the code what what regional

2923
01:52:10,960 --> 01:52:16,639
planning district Slair County is in.

2924
01:52:13,440 --> 01:52:19,199
and we are in the Greater Birmingham

2925
01:52:16,639 --> 01:52:22,080
Regional Planning Commission and the MO

2926
01:52:19,199 --> 01:52:23,679
which is listed right here is under the

2927
01:52:22,080 --> 01:52:27,040
regional planning commission. So that's

2928
01:52:23,679 --> 01:52:29,520
why that's important. Uh the MOO now

2929
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:31,280
covers it may cover all of our county

2930
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:33,599
when the next measurements there when

2931
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:36,480
the when the measure is that the county

2932
01:52:33,599 --> 01:52:39,360
is not listed as rural anymore under the

2933
01:52:36,480 --> 01:52:41,920
MO. that that that'll extend the entire

2934
01:52:39,360 --> 01:52:43,840
county which means we interact with

2935
01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:46,880
Jefferson County a lot more than we we

2936
01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:49,679
ever have and probably wish to.

2937
01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:53,760
» So we'll we'll work that out. That's all

2938
01:52:49,679 --> 01:52:55,520
those anything else on here.

2939
01:52:53,760 --> 01:52:57,119
» Before you go, I got a quick question.

2940
01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:59,679
» Yes, sir.

2941
01:52:57,119 --> 01:53:01,280
» Just for clarification as you are

2942
01:52:59,679 --> 01:53:03,840
looking at the budgets and my proposal

2943
01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:05,199
that we all combine forces together. if

2944
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:07,040
I need to come back and answer any

2945
01:53:05,199 --> 01:53:09,679
questions. I hope what I gave you is a

2946
01:53:07,040 --> 01:53:11,440
guide to our request at the airport

2947
01:53:09,679 --> 01:53:14,239
authority for some kind of financial

2948
01:53:11,440 --> 01:53:15,280
assistance. I'm not here. Well, I said I

2949
01:53:14,239 --> 01:53:16,639
wasn't asking for a half million

2950
01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:19,679
dollars, but you know what? If you find

2951
01:53:16,639 --> 01:53:21,679
it, we would definitely use it.

2952
01:53:19,679 --> 01:53:23,360
» Um

2953
01:53:21,679 --> 01:53:26,400
last week,

2954
01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:29,679
» So whatever you feel compelled is we

2955
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:31,119
would be more than grateful for. If you

2956
01:53:29,679 --> 01:53:33,040
got any questions, let me know. And then

2957
01:53:31,119 --> 01:53:34,400
once you make your final decisions on

2958
01:53:33,040 --> 01:53:39,000
that, if you'd let me know, that'd be

2959
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:39,000
awesome, too. Thank you.

2960
01:53:39,440 --> 01:53:44,320
» Get a regular budget ready.

2961
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:47,040
» Dave is having a meet and greet at uh

2962
01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:48,320
Red Diamond tonight at 6:00. Is that

2963
01:53:47,040 --> 01:53:52,400
right?

2964
01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:55,679
» 5:30. I think

2965
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:57,760
» We found out something a long time ago.

2966
01:53:55,679 --> 01:54:00,920
If you serve wine, people loosen up

2967
01:53:57,760 --> 01:54:00,920
their pockets.