[0:00] thank you everyone for your patience if we could um i'd like to call the meeting [0:05] of the human services committee to order we could all stand for the pledge of [0:08] allegiance please i pledge [0:12] [Music] allegiance and to the republic for which [0:17] it stands one nation under god indivisible with liberty and justice for [0:24] all [0:26] could the clerk take the role please commissioner mcconnell here commissioner [0:30] baldwin commissioner boehm commissioner dunn [0:33] here commissioner rushing here commissioner vandenbosch here [0:37] commissioner beaton president are there any additions deletions or [0:41] changes to the agenda make a motion to accept the [0:44] agenda as presented support all in favor [0:49] any opposed uh are there any citizens wishing to be [0:53] heard tonight moving on [0:56] any updates any conceptual initiatives [1:02] no old business so moving into new business item a [1:06] contract renewal approval request for a stat courier service make a motion to [1:10] send it full board support any discussion [1:15] all in favor any opposed [1:19] motion carries item b resolution 2210 placing proposed sinclair county library [1:24] system millage on the ballot i'd make the motion to send it to the full board [1:28] support any discussion [1:32] all in favor aye any opposed motion carries item c [1:36] sinclair county library system 2022 closings request [1:41] make a motion to send that full board support [1:44] any discussion all in favor [1:48] any opposed motion carries [1:51] are there any other human services matters this evening [1:56] we did receive in our packets information only the health department [1:59] points of interest make a motion to receive and file [2:03] support any discussion [2:06] all in favor all right any opposed question carries [2:11] damn should we receive in final sport all in favor all right any opposed [2:17] no she carries [Applause] [2:22] we need a motion to adjourn yeah i moved [2:26] we did that no no we didn't we didn't receive it [2:29] support i'm rusty yeah you are yeah a motion to adjourn [2:35] support so moved [2:37] all in favor aye aye motion carrying i'll get better [2:42] spring break okay we will call the judiciary public [2:45] safety committee meeting to order roll call please commissioner baldwin [2:49] commissioner beaton president commissioner boehm commissioner dunn [2:52] here commissioner rushing here commissioner vandenbosch here mr [2:56] mcconnell here thank you i see no auditions so if [3:00] we could get a motion to accept the agendas presented so moved support all [3:04] in favor all right opposed motion carries are there any citizens [3:09] wishing to be heard tonight seeing none [3:14] any updates seeing non-conceptual initiatives [3:19] we have no old business before us tonight new business [3:22] um 7 8 resolution 2211 placing the proposed sanctuary county ambulance [3:26] service millage on the ballot so [3:29] just send it to the full board support [3:33] okay so we have motion and support we we don't need to do these for final action [3:38] yet we have a couple days after our meeting or there is time after the full [3:43] board meeting to still make the ballot deadline okay [3:47] all right any questions yes definitely um i want to know what kind of funding [3:52] breaking down so what that's going to generate if the millage goes through and [3:55] gets approved by the residents if this goes through the full board and it does [3:58] get put on the ballot what kind of money is going to be generated three million [4:03] it's in there it is part of the the language it's right in the language [4:06] it's three million i don't know three hundred thousand [4:09] three hundred and thirty six thousand sometimes i ask that so the public will [4:12] get that also so sometimes okay i've read it i do have questions for uh [4:17] for ken yes ken and [4:20] jeff if they have it because i think both of you serve [4:24] my townships my six townships how's that to affect the funding for the volunteer [4:29] fire departments [4:35] good evening commissioners um my understanding is this would have no [4:39] impact on funding for fire departments uh the language as it's written right [4:43] now uh this is specifically for ambulance service and ambulance service [4:48] really defined in in michigan statute is for agencies that transport uh fire [4:53] departments in our county with the exception of the city of marysville um [4:57] does not they do not transport so they would not be uh involved in this funding [5:01] at all marysville however would because they do operate an ambulance service [5:05] part of my question is because when i was township supervisor in riley [5:09] one of the townships out there that i now represent [5:13] wanted to eliminate all the ems from the fire department or [5:17] emt to come out and make calls and they also proposed that for riley [5:22] township and as supervisor when i was there i said no i want 10 trucks there [5:26] you're going to pay for it if my wife needs somebody i want 10 trucks they're [5:29] not to try to save a couple of pennies [5:32] because if your ambulance is someplace else i want [5:36] the first and the fastest they can get there for the residents that i support [5:40] so i do the same thing for all district six so if i was put that question was [5:43] put to me uh like the city of memphis [5:47] uh they wouldn't get any funding of this at [5:50] all but potentially maybe they would uh and i can talk to al titus on that but [5:54] potentially would their funding or cost go down to the memphis or amit you know [6:00] i i jeff serves the memphis area i mean i [6:03] could stalk more talk more globally since tri-hospital does i mean we [6:07] provide service to 26 of the of the 31 municipalities in the county so we're [6:12] certainly the largest provider here in sinclair county um [6:16] the the language in the ballot if approved by [6:19] the voters would would not defer any funds to fire departments as it sits [6:24] right now however part of the the intent behind receiving the additional funds [6:30] is that as ambulance providers we're seeing a significant increase in call [6:35] volume so demand for for for service is increasing revenues that are used to [6:41] support ambulance services today are not increasing and that means that we as [6:45] providers are forced to add and deploy more resources out there we cannot do [6:50] that without additional funding and so a part of these funds will certainly go [6:55] to the to adding hopefully adding more resources out into the marketplace so [7:00] that we can respond some of those calls some of that may very well end up [7:05] reducing some of the fire department's need the need for fire departments but i [7:09] i couldn't tell you how much or or what impact that would have it i don't have [7:13] if i could and because i'm kind of being like an attorney here i kind of know the [7:17] answer to my questions before i ask you but same thing with the city of memphis [7:21] and the uh emmett or both fire departments that serve riley they have a [7:26] set budget i believe it's right around 120 000 that the communities have to [7:30] come up with that money if they have zero runs [7:33] or 150 runs they still have pretty much basic same cost they got to have the [7:37] equipment and the personnel whether so even if it eliminated some runs i [7:42] think the cost to the uh memphis fire department remain constant boy if i [7:46] could respond to that because that is a great point commissioner i glad i'm glad [7:49] you bring that that's precisely why we're here tonight as ambulance [7:53] companies we have the same problem it's it's what we call the cost of readiness [7:58] we operate in this county right now we do not receive any uh government support [8:03] whatsoever to operate ambulance service in cyclone county it is 100 [8:08] fee for service based which means if we're transporting patients we're [8:12] generating income if we're not transporting patients there is no income [8:16] being generated by your ambulance providers right now in in ambulance [8:20] service we have what's called the cost of [8:23] readiness right now today there's an ambulance sitting across the street [8:27] waiting staffed equipped ready to go upon a moment's notice and i think [8:32] that's what the public expects and demands quite frankly and they should [8:36] that's the way it should operate the problem with it is we are not generating [8:40] revenue to help support the cost of that and that's why one of the reasons why [8:44] we're here asking for some assistance so that we [8:47] can continue to keep those resources staffed equipped strategically located [8:52] throughout the county so that upon a moment's notice we have that resource [8:56] available to a citizen when they need it and i talked to jeff [9:00] because i he sure he lives in riley so i talked to him more but i'll share the [9:04] podium initially initially i wasn't sure where i'd go on this but i definitely [9:08] support it and i would support it uh and same thing with firefighters but you [9:14] have additional costs now for the requirements of the training for your [9:17] emt it isn't like it was 15 20 years ago they have to be more trained than they [9:21] were before yeah and and you know to be real honest with you and i and i i don't [9:25] want to repeat what i did i was here back in october gave a presentation to [9:28] the board uh kind of outlining the reasons behind this to to to help [9:33] justify why but you know we are we like every other employer in really probably [9:38] the country but certainly in michigan are facing extreme staffing shortages [9:42] right now uh we are coming out of a pandemic uh our personnel are tired i i [9:47] don't think i i i think i can speak for jeff as well we we are all seeing [9:53] shortfalls in personnel for us to to fill that gap we have got [9:59] to create positions in ems that are attractive that people want to pursue [10:03] for careers but but when we get them interested in those positions we have to [10:08] have the training programs available to train them ems personnel have to be [10:13] licensed it is a regulated industry we cannot hire people off the street like [10:17] walmart or home depot or some of those organizations can all of our people must [10:22] be licensed they have to meet a very specific set of criteria before we can [10:27] even employ them and put them on an ambulance and there is not an abundance [10:31] of those out there right now in michigan it's estimated there are over a thousand [10:35] ems vacancies across the state of michigan right now so we are hurting big [10:40] time and so again part of the funds if approved by the voters will go towards [10:45] beefing up our training and education programs i would just say one thing that [10:49] really caught this community by surprise was we had we had partnered with the [10:55] community college for a number of years to do ems training for us we as an [10:59] organization got out of the training program because the college had stepped [11:04] up to do it however in july of 2020 i was notified by the [11:08] college that they were getting out of it and they were done [11:11] so it kind of left us high and dry and so we have had to [11:14] to struggle to try and partner with agencies or train programs [11:19] outside of sinclair county which becomes a real challenge for us to have [11:23] our people commute back and forth to neighboring counties to get their [11:27] train so we need to bring that training in-house back to our county and that's [11:32] what we're committed to do uh with these funds uh if if approved by the voters [11:37] i'm good uh [11:40] ken i spoke with uh chief uh giro before the meeting about the city of mary as [11:44] well as obviously they have their own ems service right and he said they will [11:49] receive an annual check for 199 000 yeah as as [11:55] i'm sorry no i'm just checking with so the [11:58] the way it's going to work is if this if this millage is passed every [12:01] municipality that collects tax is going to collect their porsche or receive [12:05] their portion and then they would in turn [12:08] pay it back to the provider of their choice okay the county is not going to [12:13] hire tri hospital the county is not hiring [12:16] lennox richmond lennox so the county is not going to hold that money they're [12:20] going to give it out right [12:23] that's correct we'll distribute all of it okay [12:26] and commissioner if i could add to that the reason i think the reason for that [12:29] is for as long as i've been in in the ambulance business which quite frankly [12:33] is 44 years in this county we have always contracted for ambulance [12:38] services directly with the local municipality we have never contracted [12:41] with the county so the ambulance contracts the 26 municipalities that i [12:45] mentioned earlier that we provide service to we are under contract with [12:49] each of those municipalities to provide that service and so it just sort of made [12:53] sense that when the dollars are collected it would go to those [12:57] communities who are actually the ones that are contracting for those services [13:00] and in the case of marysville and richmond they essentially are the [13:04] provider for those municipalities in which they have contracts with her very [13:07] good thank you that's all i have all right does anybody else have anything i [13:11] just wanted to explain too a lot of these lift assists that try goes to [13:15] they're not billable for so they we can't they can't get any [13:21] income out of that and there's a large number of calls we [13:25] multiplier and ems go on that are non-billable for track yeah and those [13:30] numbers are going up steadily one of one of the things that um i i [13:34] looked at as a part of this and and just for your benefit in the last 10 years we [13:39] have seen an increase in requests for ambulance services go up 38 [13:45] um many of those as as commissioner van bosch said are are calls on which we [13:50] don't generate any any revenue whatsoever the resources are avail [13:54] available they're allocated they respond but there's no revenue coming in to [13:59] support them and so that's why we're having a shortfall right now um in in [14:04] the ability to function as uh providers um you know ems i think most people if [14:09] you were to ask them today uh believe that ambulance service is an essential [14:14] service it's something they expect to be available when they dial 9-1-1 [14:19] and these funds are absolutely critical for [14:23] us to ensure that those services are going to continue to be available moving [14:27] forward and they're also a backstop for our fire [14:30] and police because they do stand by for every major incident we have [14:35] and a lot of times ken has to call in overtime to backfill [14:40] that and uh without them being there i know we [14:44] wouldn't be as safe doing our jobs in the fire or police services [14:51] anybody else have any other questions seeing none all in [14:56] favor aye opposed motion carries thank you gentlemen [15:01] um are there any other judici other judiciary public safety matters [15:08] motion to receive and file so moved sport [15:12] motion to adjourn support all in favor [15:28] i know [15:36] good evening i'd like to call the saint county board of commissioners [15:39] environmental public works committee to order could have a roll call please [15:42] commissioner mcconnell president commissioner baldwin commissioner beeden [15:46] present commissioner boehm commissioner rushing [15:49] here commissioner vandenbosch here commissioner dunn here [15:53] item number two addition deletion changes to the agenda saying none i'd [15:57] make a motion to approve the agendas presented support [16:00] all in favor aye any opposed motion carries any citizens [16:05] to be heard tonight seeing none any updates from [16:09] commissioners moving on any conceptual initiatives [16:14] and this evening no old business will move into new business [16:17] um sinclair county board road commissioner's annual report mr [16:21] weston is here with his full entourage tonight i would make a motion to bring [16:26] this okay all right sport [16:30] good evening uh thanks for having us tonight [16:33] um the only thing i want to do tonight [16:35] you've got a packet there that's our annual report that we'll submit to you [16:39] won't take a lot of time on that but one of the reasons we're here tonight [16:42] uh for introductions we have bill bloomrick in the [16:46] audience which is the chair of the road commission uh greg owens which is [16:50] internal services but we have some new faces out here been with the royal [16:54] convention for a number of years but i'll be retiring into august and [16:59] we have replacements here tonight and i wanted more to introduce you to those [17:03] folks than anything else we have tammy holzberger that is our interim uh deputy [17:10] director at this time and was our cpa or still our cpa and [17:14] bill hazleton will be our director of uh [17:18] our managing director so taking my spot the future i've got a [17:22] cold and i'm struggling here so that's why i'm not doing a presentation [17:26] so um the the part here is i think the road [17:31] commission is going to be in very very good hands [17:34] uh we worked hard on behalf of the residents of sinclair county [17:39] over the years i appreciate this board the road board that was put in place and [17:43] we've been able to do some great things but [17:46] with bill's expertise his background along with tammy's [17:51] i feel we're going to be in great shape so [17:54] as far as the presentation goes a lot of it's there [17:58] similar to what we've done in back in past years [18:01] it was unique like we all know with colwood [18:04] different things like that we commend the employees for being there [18:08] for us didn't miss any time where we did have [18:11] some cases things like that but very minimal [18:14] and uh with the work with the with the board [18:18] and the employees i think we did okay with that so [18:21] that being said instead of struggling through here i'll let you go [18:25] and thank you very much [18:29] anybody got anything for uh mr weston tonight just when you feel better i'm [18:33] sure you'll be back and uh of course thank you before august we'll be talking [18:37] to you yeah thank you yeah it's been it's been great to be able to [18:41] call when we have a problem um [18:45] and what's the best way to say this pawn it [18:48] off on somebody else it's nice when you call somebody and you [18:52] get get a response everybody's been very good at the road [18:57] commission so that's been it's been helpful yeah we appreciate [19:02] that we feel we'll be able to continue to do that or these folks will be able [19:05] to do that along with the employees they have and the foreman that they use and [19:08] just everyone there is a team player so we're proud of [19:11] all those employees so mr hazelton is going to be on speed dial too isn't he [19:15] yeah yep that's right i've already got him on so this is the earliest yeah [19:20] i just like to say kurt thanks for everything you've done in this position [19:24] the team you've built the people around you i've got some experience with [19:27] everybody here and i thoroughly feel they're being left in [19:31] good hands so yeah absolutely that operation is a fine-tuned machine [19:35] and i appreciate what you guys have done thank you so much [19:39] all right thank you yes sir thank you uh um all in favor aye aye aye any [19:44] opposed motion carries [19:47] contract approval request for raymond excavating for final action for the work [19:51] at the uh goodwill park park yes i'll make a [19:54] motion for to approve it final action [19:58] support um do we have nancy with sean here we [20:03] have uh brad okay tennis tonight anybody can give us a two minute spiel on it [20:09] start that's a good because it's a good chunk of money i think the public should [20:12] hear what the money's being spent on [20:18] good evening my name is brad brensky i'm the deputy director of projects for [20:21] saint claire county parks and uh tonight we're talking about our new playground [20:25] that's going in out at goodwill's country park now the one we currently [20:30] have in out there is 22 years old so it's a bit outdated and we're looking uh [20:35] and the older they get the more safety hazards start to come along with it and [20:40] we've been maintaining them very well throughout our our system [20:44] uh but this one's owed and we need to update it and we're looking at a [20:49] farm themed playground that will tie it in nicely with the the barns and the [20:54] farm area with the farm museum being there [20:58] and uh really nice pieces that are all set to come [21:02] we're looking at we just heard that our [21:06] playground equipment should be on site by mid-june and we're hoping to have [21:11] everything placed by fair so [21:15] that's uh quite an aggressive schedule and we're going to set up our pre-con [21:19] with our contractor at the end of the month so we can get everything lined up [21:23] and ready to go [21:27] any other questions from red if it's farm why why aren't we using [21:31] barbed wire fence instead of that expensive plastic stuff [21:35] that's the biggest cost of that product that might help keep the kids off it [21:39] right right um you know it's neat it's [21:44] some people wonder why we have fences around the playgrounds [21:48] it helps with public safety and channelizing the kids and more [21:54] importantly it helps [21:56] prevent from like snatching grabs for existence when we have our county [22:01] fair going on we uh we have an ex a barricade fence we put around the [22:06] splash pad because there's just so many people out there that we want to keep [22:12] from having that unexplainable event happening so [22:17] we have that out there for the safety part of the could part of the cost of [22:21] this why it's expensive and we had the thing when i was township supervisor and [22:25] riley one of the slides was a quarter inch off [22:29] and we had to get that repaired we had to close the slide down or playground [22:32] down because it didn't pass inspection and a [22:35] kid's foot could get caught in there i mean it was that big but it was a [22:38] quarter inch off acceptable and we had to close playground down until we got [22:42] that fixed oh yes and that's why we require a certified playground installer [22:46] to be present when this is going in [22:50] any other questions this contract is in the amount of 345 [22:55] thousand dollars um i will be abstaining from the vote we [22:58] need a motion for that or we have motion but we need no he needs a [23:03] motion to allow him to abstain oh i would make a motion that he [23:09] support or all in favor any opposed [23:13] motion carries uh could i have a roll call please [23:16] commissioner mcconnell yes commissioner beeden yes [23:20] commissioner rushing yes commissioner vandenbosch yes [23:24] motion carries oro [23:28] uh item c resolution 22-09 authorizing some cog as a collective designated [23:34] planning agency and authorizing the application of the materials management [23:38] grant make a motion senate full board support [23:42] all in favor aye aye aye any opposed [23:46] motion carries uh item eight the smith creek landfill [23:49] activities report motion to receive and file support [23:53] all in favor aye any opposed motion carries any other environmental public [23:57] works matters item 10 is information only for the [24:02] monthly parks and rec financial documents [24:04] motion to receive and file support all in favor all right any [24:09] opposed item 11 receive and file make a motion to receive and file [24:13] support all in favor aye opposed item 12 adjournment [24:18] make a motion to adjourn all in favor [24:21] all right [24:24] getting adjourned [24:27] this time i'd like to call the ways and means committee to order roll call [24:31] please commissioner mcconnell here commissioner baldwin commissioner beaton [24:36] present commissioner boom commissioner dunn here commissioner vandenbosch here [24:41] commissioner rushing here item two i see we have an addition uh i [24:46] need to have that move to 7f somebody would make that i would make a motion to [24:50] move uh item 2a to item 7f smart [24:54] for final action any discussion [24:58] all in favor aye aye aye aye and i now have a motion to accept the [25:03] amended agenda so moved support [25:07] any discussion all in favor aye aye aye aye aye any opposed motion [25:12] passed this time do we have any citizens wishing to be heard [25:17] seeing none do we have any updates none no conceptual initiatives no old [25:23] business we'll move on to seven a change to the 2022 budget public [25:28] guardian's office i'd move this be sent to the full board [25:31] support any discussion [25:34] all in favor aye aye any opposed motion passed [25:40] uh 7b this prosecuting attorney's office manning table uh apparently he can make [25:45] it for the 21st meeting but so i need a motion to send this to the full board [25:49] motion to send a full board support any discussion [25:54] all in favor aye aye aye any opposed motion passed 7c is for final action [25:59] this is the foreclosure mowing agreement with kevin's lawn care and snow removal [26:04] i would make a motion that we proved kevin's lawn care and snow [26:08] removal i'll support that foreclosure mowing [26:11] agreement any discussion [26:16] it's not that much money but we need a roll call correct yes if you would [26:19] please commissioner mcconnell yes commissioner beaton yes commissioner [26:23] dunn yes commissioner bandenbosch yes commissioner rushing [26:28] yes uh moving on to 7d [26:32] uh commissioner vanderbosh district 7 erpa or american rescue plan project [26:38] generator i would make a motion to send to the [26:41] pull board i would support that and your discussion [26:46] you feel like it may be at the full board yeah maybe i'll be doing better [26:49] than that all in favor aye aye any opposed motion [26:52] passed seven eight if we could have a motion for the [26:56] warning sirens make a motion support board [27:01] any discussion all in favor aye aye aye any opposed [27:05] motion passed uh moving on to seven f [27:10] uh resolution 2212 authorizing signatory administrator controller deputy [27:15] administrator for final action so moved support [27:19] and your discussion all in favor [27:22] aye any opposed ocean past [27:25] this time do we have any other ways and means matters [27:29] seeing none information only motion to receive file packets report [27:34] any discussion all in favor aye aye aye aye any opposed [27:39] motion passed you need a motion to adjourn so moved support [27:43] all in favor aye aye aye any opposed [27:47] you stand adjourned