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All right, the clerk has indicated that we are ready to proceed at 6 o'clock here. All during mayor, welcome to the city council meeting of July 28, we'll call the meeting to order, and we'll go right to roll call, Mr. Clerk. Mayor Dory.

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here. Vice Mayor Deesie here. Councilmember Barrack here. Councilmember Spotorado.

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Here. And Councilmember Dees. Here. All right. Please join me in the pledge of allegiance.

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moving on to adoption of the agenda, Mr. Bradley,

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any changes to be noted or just look at?

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Just one, we would recommend that we remove item 11.1, which is an amendment to the zoning.

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Ordnance, it proposes changes to the regulations of outdoor storage.

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We had a little notice issue with that.

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We want to re-notice that and bring it back at an appropriate time to just remove that from the agenda.

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All right.

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changes to be noted, I'll look for a motion to adopt the agenda with the removal of item 11.1.

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Make the motion to adopt the agenda without 11.1.

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All second.

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There's a motion in the second to adopt the agenda with the change noted on favor say aye.

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And he posed none that motion passes.

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We move on to approval of minutes.

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any changes to be noted, Mr. Clark, colleagues, any corrections or amendments noted to be noted,

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then I'll look for a motion to approve the minutes.

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Just a quick question on that.

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Can someone tell me why the resolutions don't have numbers on them?

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I just don't know.

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There are 26, you know, dot dot blank.

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So they get numbers in our system on the back end after they're approved.

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And they don't actually get approved until the minutes are, I mean, I guess this is a dumb question, but I don't actually know.

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And they're not fully approved until the minutes are approved.

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They're approved after the meeting after you guys vote.

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So we do have the minutes. The resolutions are numbered in our files.

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are you directly reflected in the minutes?

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I don't know the answer to that,

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but we probably at that point the time the minutes are produced.

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I would imagine we probably know the resolution numbers.

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Yeah, we can add them in the future.

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That'd be great if it's not too hard.

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Mystery solved.

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I actually thought that was a very astute question that should probably be something.

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I understand why there's a little delay because you don't know what the resolution

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will pass on a particular night.

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So you're counting in order.

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But without a couple weeks.

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So yeah, we'll do a week, it sounds like a reasonable request, and we'll do that.

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I'm going to look for a motion to approve the minutes.

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I'll make a motion to approve the minutes.

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Is there a second?

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Second.

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There's a motion in the second to approve the minutes.

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All in favor say aye.

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All right.

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It looks like any opposed that.

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We're on to public forum.

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All note before I invite public forum from the public that's attending.

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we have received public comment in writing, it looks like there's an exchange of letters here

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from some of our constituents, Alan Gaubereth as a couple, I noticed one. I think public comment

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number three would be from Mr. Belt, if I'm not mistaken, but now I'm with the permission of,

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okay, so public comment three is from Mr. Belt, the other three are from Mr. Gaubereth,

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I enjoyed reading those public comments.

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So anyone from the audience wishing to approach

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your council and make public comment tonight.

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Anything that is not on the agenda?

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Let's compliment.

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Always for you.

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Matthew, 1837, Spring Mountain Court.

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When I was in the planning commission,

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And I was at 10, 23 Valley View Street.

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And I just want to add one quick point of emphasis

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at the behest of former Mayor Galbraith.

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We had a rather humorous exchange, although the topic

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is not that humorous.

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In 2010, when I was in a planning commission,

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it came before us whether or not to approve a 63% rate increase.

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And needless to say, the citizens were

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not favorable of that, but after a lot of study and a lot of back and forth, I did put some

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comments on the record, and I remind the record that these were entered in, that if we were

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to, if that was the medicine we had to take, that we should take it then, because of compounding

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effects, if we took any lesser, we would just continue to delay the necessary needed kind of

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Upgrades, et cetera, so he wanted me to remind the record that that comment was entered in in I think that meeting was November of 2010

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I could probably find it, but but that was just a thought and I think that it's also in response to this grand jury report that he said

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And I quote was rather lousy

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and quote, that there were a lot of good faith efforts made on the enterprise on both the

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water enterprise and the wastewater enterprise. By those of us who sat in your seats at

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the time, obviously I think it's to this council into this mayor's extreme gratitude for

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continuing that longstanding work. I will only add as part of this public record that as I

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probably what can be only described as a construction site slash war zone.

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It's so great to see that that much needed work is finally getting done.

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And I know that there's so much, and there's so much passion and so much ink and frankly,

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blood has been spilled on these topics on this topic of water, wastewater, etc.

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long time.

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I think it's important that people recognize citizens recognize that this was extremely complicated

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long, long overdue infrastructure upgrades, and that there were many people making good faith efforts

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understanding that something like a 63% rate increase is extremely unpopular.

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So adding that to the record for my friend and former mayor, Alan Galbraith.

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Thank you for that.

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And the other witnesses for Mr. Galbraith.

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Now I appreciate the comments, excellent comments.

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Yeah, thank you for that.

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All right. I don't see anyone else wishing to make public comment at this point. Of course, you have an opportunity to make comment along the way on matters that are on the agenda.

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Okay, we're on to item seven reports by staff and city council, future agenda items and AB 1234 reports as I'm want to do. I'll turn to our city attorney first for a report from our close session of today.

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Mr. Mayor, yes we have a close session to discuss liability claim to receive from Thompson

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Builders prior to this meeting and there was no report of the action from that close session.

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That concludes my report.

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All right, short and sweet.

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Mr. McKinney, anything else from staff?

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Yes, thank you.

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We've got a handful of things that we'd like to share with the council and the community.

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The vast majority are really good ideas and good news.

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I'll start with a million dollar good news matter.

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We heard from Anna Shuto from our congressman's office advising us that the request

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for funding through the Congressional Community Project funding program was awarded a million

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dollars to the Native Sun's project here in town that requires some further

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action has to make its way through the House and the Senate, but usually those things have

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a relatively positive and easy road, so we'll see.

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So that's been a long way in coming and much, much needed, so super good news there.

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I've asked our public works director to give us a little presentation on some good news around

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our streets.

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We've got in our streetsaver report from Metropolitan Transportation Commission and he'll do that in a flash.

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You all know about the accident, which occurred that ran into our hydrant.

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We thought it would be a good idea to come forward and provide just an overview to you and also to the community.

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Part of that too is some lessons that we learned through that experience and Joe will touch on that.

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I've asked Andrew to just bring us up to date on a new feature that will allow folks in the community to stay in touch with activities that are going on through our civic plus platform.

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And then also there are opportunities for folks to participate in local government both at the council level and on some of our boards and commissions and Andrew can tell us about the dates that are there.

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We'll have a meeting on the 25th of August, your second meeting in August, and we'll

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be bringing our thoughts about a framework for implementation of the Blackberg study,

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then.

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So folks can come and offer their input on that.

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We'll make sure that's well advertised on our website.

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And then finally, there's a fire safety preparation community meeting coming up later this

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month.

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Andrew, what time, what day is that?

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It is. This Thursday, I believe that for.

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There we go. So Andrew can you fill us in on the civic plus future and the available openings?

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Yes, so the first one, we just launched it last week through the newsletter, but it's a new

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way for residents to stay informed on specific issues that can be on different planning projects,

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public works projects like the Oak Avenue one Main Street sidewalks as well as

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get email public notices in addition to them being in various newspapers. You know

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the email might be more applicable to some residents. So they can sign up for

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any lists that they are interested and they just go to our homepage. They click on

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the little stay-unformed button on the left side and then click which lists they want to

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up for through the notify me and then we will send emails as new information is available for

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each of those specific lists. The next is we have a variety of boarding commission

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vacancies. We have active transportation and sustainability committee, the Library Board of Trustees,

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Parks and Rec Commission, and Planning Commission. All of those positions are open. People can apply

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for them, city of satinwina.gov forward slash city boards,

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and those positions will be open

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until filled. So as we get applications, we will bring them to the council for filling, and

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we will fill hopefully one position on ATSC this evening, but that will still leave to alternate

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coming up in November. We have a variety of people that have already taken out papers and some

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have turned in papers for mayor and city council. If anyone would still like to pull papers,

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you can still do that. The deadline to have all that paperwork submitted is August 7th at 4pm.

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If an incumbent does fail to file or does not wish to seek reelection, then the filing period

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is extended to August 12th at 4pm and you can email me, CityClerk at City of St.

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Helena.gov for more information.

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You can also go to our website, City of St. Helena.gov forward slash candidate info for

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information and then a reminder to residents who are not seeking office but as candidates

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do have to get between 20 and 30 signatures to become a candidate, residents can sign up to

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nomination papers for City Council and up to one for Mayor.

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That is...

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You can basically sign one nomination paper per spot that is available. So we have two spots available on city council and one on per mayor.

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And then final announcement, national night out put on by the state and we need a police department will be next Tuesday, August 4th from 5 to 8 and that's over at City Hall on college and Pope.

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And now, Joe.

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Mr. Leach.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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And Council members, tonight, we do want to give you an update on Mr. McKinnon had reference

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to street saver.

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This is a software program that the Metropolitan Transportation Commission uses for all nine Bay Area counties

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and all jurisdictions within those counties.

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And they use it for federal, state and local funding as it relates to needs for street management and maintenance.

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And so this dashboard reflects a few things.

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It's difficult to see, but on the far left, the bar graph that's kind of shaded green.

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I'm going to assume that's the color, as I'm colorblind.

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But what it reflects is we had a pretty significant uptick in 22 and 3,

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as we did some significant paving projects.

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And then we've kind of plateaued since 24, 25, and 26

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that are around a payment condition index

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about 63.

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This current year, mid-year, this is as of the end of June.

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And we have a payment condition index of about 61.

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And with the several payment projects

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that we have coming up pretty quickly,

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by the end of this year, we'll have Oak Avenue paved.

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We'll have Hudson repaved, first part of next year we'll be sulfur springs and a few other projects that we've got.

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I think McCorkkel is in there as well.

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And so those should bring our PCI up probably in excess of 65 to 68.

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It'll be interesting to see how that reflect is reflected.

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But staff goes in and actually adjust the payment condition index as we do operations.

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whether it's a full, what we call mill and fill reconstruct, or crack ceiling, or a micro-surface.

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We're going in and adjusting the pavement condition index to reflect those operations.

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So you'll see those uptick in the not-too-distant future.

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And with that, I'll field any questions you might have.

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I might just note that that's really remarkable increase if you look back in 2021 when the pavement condition index was at 50,

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which is a, I think, a generally poor condition in five years. We're going to be up to about

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68. So, I mean, that just reflects the movement that's garnered by regular investment in that

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paving project. We've just spent about 2 million bucks a year, is that right? So, that's excellent.

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Once we get it up to a certain level, whatever our standard might be, then you're able to tape

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paper off that regular and just move down into a much more cost-efficient maintenance realm,

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which is really great.

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Questions from my colleagues?

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Vice Mayor.

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Can we ask a question?

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Thank you.

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Can we ask a question on one of his comments?

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Can you repeat the part about when the efficiency study input will be coming from staff?

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Is that to a general city council meeting?

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to August 25th. That's the second meeting in August. We'll be bringing our staff report

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that we'll have some recommended framework for the document.

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I wanted to fix appropriate to suggest that possibly there's a follow-up study session.

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I just know how hard it is for us to dig in to all of that. So maybe once we've been able to

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absorb the recommendations, I wonder if in early September or mid-September, there could be a

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That's a little bit more open with the council and the finance committee and members of the public so that we could.

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Yeah, we can certainly anticipate that.

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I have the conversation on the 25th and anticipate moving to a steady session.

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Thank you.

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And maybe start thinking about the calendar and advance.

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Does that complete the report from the staff just began?

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and then I think Joe will have more to talk about

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on the water matter and just a flash.

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We don't have any other presentation on their item eight.

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We're moving on to item nine if I'm correct.

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Statute.

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Back to Joe, talk about the water service and quality discussion.

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Following this event on July 18th.

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Yes.

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Thank you, Mayor and Council, and members of the public.

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I'd like to provide you a brief summary of the Brown.

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We call it the Brown water event.

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I think that's I don't know that that's gaining any traction from about two weekends ago,

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including the city's operational response, our communications efforts, and I would say

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one very important lesson that you'll see that we've actually identified and put into practice

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as recently as this past weekend.

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On Saturday afternoon July 18th at about quarter to five, commercial bus, tourist bus, struck

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fire hydrant on Main Street, the damage hydrant discharged approximately 4,500 gallons of water

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per minute until the flow was stopped about 20 minutes later. While fire police and public works

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crews responded immediately to the isolated and isolated the break and restored normal system

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operations, that sudden hydraulic demand created an unusually large change in water flow throughout

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much of our distribution system.

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As many of you know, rapid changes in water velocity can disturb naturally occurring iron

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and manganese deposits that have accumulated inside older water mains over many decades.

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These deposits became suspended in the water, resulting in a widespread but temporary discoloration

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in several neighborhoods.

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From an operational stand-up standpoint, our first priority was stabilizing the water system.

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Beginning Sunday morning, public works crews implemented an aggressive, system-wide

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flushing program, ultimately flushing more than 400,000 gallons of water to remove

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suspended sediment.

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Staff continuously monitored customer reports, adjusting flushing locations based upon field

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observations and system hydraulics, and verified improvements throughout the community.

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Communication was equally important to our response.

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The City issued a series of public updates explaining what had occurred, what residents could expect, and what actions crews were taking.

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Residents were encouraged to report discoloration through the Great Bynap.

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Those reports were not simply logged. They became an operational tool.

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Staff mapped complaint locations, compared them with field observations, adjusted, flushing priorities accordingly, and then followed up with customers to verify that corrective actions were working.

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Beginning Monday afternoon, public work staff personally contacted nearly every resident

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who submitted one of the approximately 100 great vine reports.

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And we made this contact by phone, email, or directly through the app if the person had

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reported anonymously.

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And really, the purpose of that was to confirm if the water clarity was becoming better.

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and then to determine whether additional flushing was needed and answer questions directly.

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We continue that outreach through midweek until every report had either been resolved or appropriate follow-up had occurred.

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The event also generated inquiries from state regulatory agencies and original news media.

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Staff responded promptly to those inquiries and provided consistent factual information regarding the cause of the event.

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our operational response and the progress of system recovery.

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Today, the system is largely the return to normal operation.

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While isolated reports may still occur as localized deposits,

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while isolated reports may occur, as localized deposit

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subtle, over a water clarity has improved significantly

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and customer reports have declined substantially.

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And let's see, sorry, I did it, did it, oh boy, I did it, the lessons learned, where did we go?

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Oh, one lesson is already emerged from this event.

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Operacally our crews respond quickly to stop the water loss, stabilize the system and begin flushing.

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Looking back, however, we identified an opportunity to improve the timing of our initial public communication,

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following the significant hydraulic disturbance. While our first priority was

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appropriately restoring systems system operations, and earlier advisory

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informing residents that temporary discoloration was likely going to occur, and

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we could have better manage those expectations and reduce uncertainty during

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those first several hours. That improvement has already been incorporated into our

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emergency response procedures. And while this event was understandably frustrating for

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residents and businesses, it also demonstrated the value of two-way communication.

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The resident reports and reference previously helped direct field operations and are

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following up with customers confirmed that our corrective actions were working.

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We'll continue to build on both the operational and communication lessons from this event

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as we move forward with ongoing investments in water treatment distribution system maintenance

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and capital infrastructure improvements.

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But this lesson learned has not been a resolve solely for water issues.

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This past weekend, when the Calistoga St. Helena, 911, and non-emergency dispatch phone

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lines went down, staff incorporated measures to communicate through Everbridge, and alert

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napaccounting, social media, and our website each time they occurred.

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So the public was informed.

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And with that, I thank you, and we have to answer any questions.

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Questions?

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comments from my colleagues.

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All right, thank you for the report.

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Do you have anything else to add?

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I'll ask a few questions if no one else wants to.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Joe, can you tell us about the lab?

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It sounded like some labs were sent off.

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So we know a little bit more about the water.

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Yeah, so during when there's a pressure loss

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in a system. Typically, if it goes below five pounds per square inch, the state requires us to test

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that and really testing it for bacterial logical testing, so the presence of bacteria, and we did

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that. Even though the system didn't go below five pounds, we did test that anyway, and the results

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came back negative. Okay, and so that tells us something about the event, like, does it tell us

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that know, and while it seems illogical that other stuff could get in, some people wondered

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if things could have been entering the system from other places, and that kind of tells

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us that that's not the case.

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I have another question.

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A few people notice that we might have gotten a free flushing or something like that, and maybe

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we could remind people that we are actually doing this

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but in a more controlled way where we capture the water

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and notify people in advance and it's not quite so brown.

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But do we have any idea, like what, I don't know,

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how much gunk it was came out and did we make any progress

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or where did that happen?

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Do you know what do my house?

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So I'm hearing you wonder if we've quantified locations and kind of gone to that level.

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No, anything.

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Yeah, I think the best data that we have is are the great vine reports.

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We've got the quantity of water, but we haven't, when we flush, we don't capture the sediment

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that comes through that because we're flushing at such a higher velocity.

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So, yeah, I think that the data in terms of the magnitude of debris in the system is still unknown.

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Okay, and do we know anything about the iron and manganese levels during the event,

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or will that be reported, maybe at a water committee meeting?

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We don't. I mean, we could compare it with what we collected out of the pilot program.

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program. When we did at the beginning of June and we did a report to the water waste water

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advisory committee that pilot program where we flushed about seven miles of pipeline using

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our recirculating system. And we've got labs from that, but it's somewhat false because

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it's highly concentrated in filters. The iron and megganies that came out of that, so it's

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not completely representative of something that's diluted along a pipeline.

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Thank you, and thank you for making that point that you've actually, when you talked about new processes in place, that is something new where people will get water alerts via what we used to know is nixley.

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Is it nixley?

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Yeah, nixley.

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Okay.

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Thank you very much.

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The lesson learned from my house, Mr. Leach.

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Certainly sir.

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Mr. Darring, do your laundry in the morning.

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A lot earlier than I did that day.

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So yeah, that was the disaster.

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I just purchased several shirts.

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OK, they're all real well.

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But we'll see.

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Any other questions?

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Just a comment based on some of the resident voices.

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It'd be great to share regularly.

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Sometimes people miss messages of what

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the wastewater committee partnering with your department

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It has been doing to get their hands around where we are with the water, and that there is

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improvements coming.

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I know Vice-Maser Mayor Dizzy often speaks about this, and thank you.

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I think more of that would be good.

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I've found that some people just think there are nothing that has really been done, and there

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are some hope there.

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It's not all great news, but I think things are going in the right direction there, and

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be great to just keep, it's not too in your own horn, but just informing people what we're

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doing right.

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A lot of people don't know there was a pilot program.

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Correct.

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Great suggestion.

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And then Mr. Mayor just, two things to add.

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One we are looking at how best to bring a claim against.

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The bus company, and then also exploring some method to provide a credit to folks in town, who is 400,000 gallons

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with through our system, lots went through their systems too, and then there were also a number

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of things that were damaged, ruined by virtue of this. We're trying to figure out how best to do that.

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But for this instance, and then into the future, when we have other instances of discolored water,

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that just seems right to provide a credit to folks who have water that they can't use.

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So we'll be bringing that to you at some point in the future.

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All right. Thank you for the reports.

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More information is always better and more timely information is good.

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And so, yes, we are learning our lessons and we're getting on top of it.

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Unfortunately, we will probably have some more of these events going forward,

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not necessarily this kind of event, but things happen,

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and there is still a lot of mineral deposit in our pipes.

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Correct. So all right, we're moving on to item 10. The consent calendar look to my council first for any need for extended discussion on any of the items 10.1 to 10.8

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by smerry. I'd like to pull

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10.3

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second reading and adoption of the ordinance

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I'm sorry, is that right? Yeah, the the purchasing authority is that I go

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any way from the public wishing to pull an item for more discussion.

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Seeing that I'll break it back to the council.

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I'll look for a motion to a doctor.

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I'd like to pull 10.7.

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Okay, we have 10.3, 10.7.

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Look for a motion to adopt the balance of the consent calendar

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with the exception of 10.3 and 10.

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Second, which we'll take up afterward.

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I'll make a motion to adopt the consent.

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Second, motion in the second to adopt the consent calendar with the exceptions noted.

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It's Bradley roll call, please.

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Council member Barric.

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Council member Spotorado.

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Council member Diaz.

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Vice Mayor Dizzy.

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Yes.

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Mayor Dizzy.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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Okay,

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item 10.3, I don't know whose item that is, but I'll turn to you, Mr. McCann, you can have a very brief overview of the item, and then we'll get to the comments or questions by the Vice Mayor and the public.

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Yes, so this is a second reading of an ordinance that was introduced to amend the provision of the municipal code, providing authority to the city manager for execution of purchasing agreements and various things.

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contracts.

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All right, you have any particular questions before I open it to comment?

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Yes, I want to know if it's a question. It's a request, I guess. I wondered if we don't really

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currently have that much visibility into spending outside of, you know, the budget and then the

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financials, which is pretty big. So I wanted to see request if we could get like a quarterly summary

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of cumulative expenditures by vendor, so that it's there.

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I know we've got some other reports that come out quarterly

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or monthly or whatever, but I think that would be helpful

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to see.

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That was my request.

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Ms. McGowan.

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Yes.

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So we should be providing quarterly presentations

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to the council around a variety of things related to the budget,

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and we will do that.

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We have been in the past.

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I don't know that accordingly, but we see a lot of statements.

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We've got some conflicting policies.

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We have some language in the municipal code,

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and then in our financial management policies.

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We have reports to the council in the past quarterly.

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Some folks, that was maybe too much.

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We move that back to every six months or so.

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I think quarterly is fine.

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We get into a rhythm that's easy on staff.

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It's informative to the council.

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We'll try that and then we can back off if you want us to.

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Thank you for very fresh my recollection.

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I would remember we had more frequently.

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It's a long list and you see a lot of check numbers and amounts.

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You really, it's not a whole lot of.

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I think it's mind, I mean, to look at them.

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Yeah, I think it's good to get everybody up to speed on it.

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Once you're satisfied, we can back off and make it less frequent if you wish.

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All right.

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So I'll look for motion to adopt, or 10.3.

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I'll make a motion to adopt 10.3.

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Is there a second?

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Second.

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Roll call.

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Councilmember Barric.

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Yes.

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Councilmember Diaz.

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Yes.

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Councilmember Spauderottom.

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Yes.

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Vice Mayor Dizzy.

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Mayor Doyne.

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Yes.

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And thank you for the comments and request.

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It'll be awesome to be in consensus on.

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No go to a 10.7.

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I'll look to you, Mr. Mackay, to give a brief.

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Well, is that you, Mr. Mackay, or whoever you want.

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I'm happy to do it.

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Thank you.

465
00:35:15,790 --> 00:35:21,430
Joe can correct me if I get this wrong, but a couple months ago, April, you all authorized

466
00:35:21,430 --> 00:35:29,530
us to go out and purchase and install a dwelling unit, a bit our water treatment facility

467
00:35:29,530 --> 00:35:30,290
at Bell Canyon.

468
00:35:30,850 --> 00:35:31,330
We've done so.

469
00:35:31,410 --> 00:35:38,910
We've purchased the unit and we intend to put it in place.

470
00:35:39,550 --> 00:35:43,210
This resolution will authorize us to do that.

471
00:35:43,210 --> 00:35:51,450
We have budget already, in fact, the work by our project manager Mario Treverso is reduced

472
00:35:51,450 --> 00:35:58,510
to the cost, about $15,000 from what the initial bid was, and so we're in good shape.

473
00:35:59,150 --> 00:36:04,450
And if you will authorize this, we expect to have that trailer that we own, brought over

474
00:36:04,450 --> 00:36:05,930
an installed person.

475
00:36:07,290 --> 00:36:07,850
All right.

476
00:36:08,290 --> 00:36:08,830
Questions or comments?

477
00:36:09,030 --> 00:36:11,390
Before I open it to comment from the audience, from the public.

478
00:36:11,390 --> 00:36:20,630
question. So this is a general question, but related to this. So the bid was for 114,000 and

479
00:36:20,630 --> 00:36:27,250
change and then there was a contingency of 28,000 approximately, which puts the total at 142.

480
00:36:27,510 --> 00:36:32,330
The staff reports stated that there was no financial impact, but there was a small impact.

481
00:36:32,610 --> 00:36:37,510
It's over budget. If you include the contingency, my question is, when we look at relative to

482
00:36:37,510 --> 00:36:42,750
are we including the contingencies or are we just including the original

483
00:36:42,750 --> 00:36:48,430
bit amount? Actually I don't think there's an increase at all. Joe can maybe

484
00:36:48,430 --> 00:36:55,030
walk us through that but we had a contingency we're actually adding to that

485
00:36:55,030 --> 00:37:00,430
contingency from some of the savings from a more favorable bid. Joe.

486
00:37:00,690 --> 00:37:06,930
Just to clarify the contingency of the the 28,000 that's referenced in the

487
00:37:06,930 --> 00:37:14,190
for Port 20,000, 407, that's the overall project contingency, not just for the install.

488
00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:15,910
Does that make sense?

489
00:37:16,110 --> 00:37:17,350
Yes. Okay.

490
00:37:19,190 --> 00:37:25,690
But there's a more general philosophical point to be made there.

491
00:37:26,110 --> 00:37:30,210
I guess the point to be made may be not exactly on this one, but the general question would be,

492
00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:33,110
so when we ask, is there a fiscal impact?

493
00:37:34,430 --> 00:37:40,130
Are we saying, okay, if this goal, for example, it's $100,000, maybe there's $20,000

494
00:37:40,130 --> 00:37:44,810
in all that contingency, are we counting the potential for the contingency going over a budget

495
00:37:44,810 --> 00:37:45,530
that we have?

496
00:37:45,710 --> 00:37:50,810
It's not the case here, but in general, do we count that when we, when we allies, fiscal impact?

497
00:37:50,970 --> 00:37:59,970
So I can say that the project has a fiscal impact of $370,000 or so, and some of that includes

498
00:37:59,970 --> 00:38:00,990
a contingency.

499
00:38:00,990 --> 00:38:06,330
So it's both purchasing it, getting it over here, putting it a propane tank, putting it in

500
00:38:06,330 --> 00:38:11,050
some other ancillary things, and then also a contingency, which maybe we're not going

501
00:38:11,050 --> 00:38:11,270
to spend.

502
00:38:11,630 --> 00:38:16,810
And if we don't, then that goes back into our funds, and if we find that, you know, the conditions

503
00:38:16,810 --> 00:38:20,370
are different than we thought, and we have to do a different kind of foundation, or more

504
00:38:20,370 --> 00:38:25,670
grading, or we end up saying, I don't know, maybe we need a different roof element, then

505
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:27,230
that's what the contingencies for.

506
00:38:27,870 --> 00:38:33,310
That's all within the budget that the Council has already authorized, so this action doesn't increase that at all.

507
00:38:34,030 --> 00:38:34,470
All right.

508
00:38:34,470 --> 00:38:34,770
Okay.

509
00:38:35,590 --> 00:38:37,510
Anyone wishing to comment on this matter?

510
00:38:38,910 --> 00:38:39,110
All right.

511
00:38:39,310 --> 00:38:41,330
I'll close public comment, bring it back.

512
00:38:42,350 --> 00:38:44,830
I'll look for a motion on 10.7.

513
00:38:47,850 --> 00:38:49,730
Motion to put 10.7.

514
00:38:50,010 --> 00:38:50,190
All right.

515
00:38:50,690 --> 00:38:52,410
Motion to adopt 10.7.

516
00:38:52,630 --> 00:38:53,270
Is there a second?

517
00:38:53,730 --> 00:38:54,130
Second.

518
00:38:54,870 --> 00:38:55,710
Motion and second.

519
00:38:55,810 --> 00:38:56,470
Thank you.

520
00:38:57,710 --> 00:38:58,750
Council Member and Vice Mayor.

521
00:38:59,430 --> 00:38:59,870
Mr.

522
00:39:02,810 --> 00:39:03,250
Clark.

523
00:39:05,070 --> 00:39:05,850
I can't go back for it.

524
00:39:06,010 --> 00:39:06,990
Mr. Andrew is Mr. Clark.

525
00:39:07,330 --> 00:39:08,150
Mr. Johnson and BDS.

526
00:39:09,110 --> 00:39:09,990
Thank you.

527
00:39:10,110 --> 00:39:10,310
Yes.

528
00:39:10,810 --> 00:39:11,630
Vice Mayor Deesing.

529
00:39:11,790 --> 00:39:12,230
Yes.

530
00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:13,010
Can't remember a barric.

531
00:39:13,170 --> 00:39:13,530
Yes.

532
00:39:13,750 --> 00:39:14,570
Can't remember a Spaturado.

533
00:39:14,990 --> 00:39:15,170
Yes.

534
00:39:15,370 --> 00:39:15,790
Mayor Dory.

535
00:39:16,690 --> 00:39:19,390
And I'd just like to again compliment Mario.

536
00:39:19,710 --> 00:39:21,250
He's done a really great job on this.

537
00:39:21,810 --> 00:39:26,050
It's been an unusually difficult thing.

538
00:39:26,050 --> 00:39:33,810
But you stayed with it, and I think his dog illness is going to deliver this thing and actually make it a little bit less expensive than otherwise would have been.

539
00:39:33,950 --> 00:39:34,430
So that's great.

540
00:39:34,870 --> 00:39:35,750
Yep, thank you for that.

541
00:39:36,670 --> 00:39:41,310
As we announced, when we adopted the agenda item 11, the public hearing will not be heard tonight.

542
00:39:41,490 --> 00:39:43,470
That will be heard at another time.

543
00:39:43,650 --> 00:39:53,050
Hopefully soon, get that matter resolved for some of our local business people waiting to get their storage issues lined up and ready to go.

544
00:39:53,050 --> 00:39:58,130
to hold business, 12.1, I'll turn to you, Mr. McCad,

545
00:39:58,150 --> 00:40:00,950
to introduce the staff member in the item in general.

546
00:40:01,170 --> 00:40:03,530
I think our Director of Community Services

547
00:40:03,530 --> 00:40:06,130
is going to present this for us, hello, Ashley.

548
00:40:08,070 --> 00:40:08,990
Good evening, Council.

549
00:40:09,830 --> 00:40:11,350
Thank you so much for having me tonight.

550
00:40:11,690 --> 00:40:14,790
We are back to you with the St. Lina Little League Agreement.

551
00:40:15,970 --> 00:40:18,930
And we'll go ahead and just a quick refresher on this agreement

552
00:40:18,930 --> 00:40:21,090
and why we're back to you tonight with it.

553
00:40:21,690 --> 00:40:22,830
So through the background of it,

554
00:40:22,830 --> 00:40:30,430
Obviously, 1966, the original agreement of land least to the Little League to develop the

555
00:40:30,430 --> 00:40:33,330
ballfields and implement the Little League program.

556
00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:40,150
Going through that timeline, bringing us all the way to this year in January, 2026.

557
00:40:40,330 --> 00:40:41,890
This was previously presented.

558
00:40:42,850 --> 00:40:47,470
There were some points of concern from Little League board members in the public as well,

559
00:40:47,470 --> 00:40:51,270
So staff came back and talks amongst us ourselves

560
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:55,570
and our city attorney to take out a contingency,

561
00:40:55,710 --> 00:40:57,630
which we'll talk not a contingency.

562
00:40:58,110 --> 00:41:00,890
Sorry, a clause that we'll talk about in a little bit

563
00:41:01,550 --> 00:41:04,610
further detail in just a few slides next slide, please.

564
00:41:06,450 --> 00:41:08,830
So just recap of our facility use.

565
00:41:08,970 --> 00:41:11,330
So literally season is January to June.

566
00:41:11,590 --> 00:41:14,190
They're postseason July 1 to July 31,

567
00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:15,690
which they do very well.

568
00:41:15,690 --> 00:41:22,370
we always plan on that. Our off-season is August 2 December and so at that time city or others

569
00:41:22,370 --> 00:41:29,030
approved by city users may schedule programming during this time and this remains open to the community

570
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:35,810
when not scheduled for use for just open use of the field space. Next slide, thank you.

571
00:41:36,310 --> 00:41:41,210
So maintenance responsibilities and this is further in the agreement as well but just some highlights

572
00:41:41,210 --> 00:41:46,770
from the city so the city does mow that out fields year-round in the infields during the off-season,

573
00:41:47,290 --> 00:41:52,970
the irrigation system and the water that goes to that trim, trimming of the trees and managing,

574
00:41:54,510 --> 00:41:58,450
and then we also provide space for the St. Helena Little League board meetings at Carnegie

575
00:41:59,350 --> 00:42:04,770
and we pay and provide all utilities for the St. Helena Little League fields out at Crane Park.

576
00:42:05,090 --> 00:42:09,930
And then St. Helena Little League during their season, they mone maintain those infields,

577
00:42:09,930 --> 00:42:17,110
prep the fields for play, any minor irrigation repairs that we have out there, and then managed temporary

578
00:42:17,110 --> 00:42:23,050
signage that you see on the outfields out there, and they do definitely a lot more to get ready for

579
00:42:23,050 --> 00:42:27,410
that season that you'll see them out there and preseason getting ready for. But next slide, please.

580
00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:34,570
So as part of this agreement, we have a steering committee and that consists of St. Little Little

581
00:42:36,410 --> 00:42:42,010
representatives as well as our recreation supervisor Kevin McLeod and then our operations manager

582
00:42:42,010 --> 00:42:47,790
Carlos Rerebe from Public Works they sit on that committee. They'll meet minimum twice annually

583
00:42:47,790 --> 00:42:53,650
if other things do occur that need to be addressed they will meet accordingly but at least twice

584
00:42:53,650 --> 00:43:01,990
annually and will be responsible for reviewing and setting the facility standards as a joint committee

585
00:43:01,990 --> 00:43:03,890
and then also regular communication

586
00:43:03,890 --> 00:43:05,690
and ongoing collaborations

587
00:43:05,690 --> 00:43:08,070
between the city and the city and the little league.

588
00:43:08,570 --> 00:43:09,330
Next slide.

589
00:43:10,250 --> 00:43:13,610
And so this is the term length that we're looking at.

590
00:43:13,970 --> 00:43:15,150
And on the next few slides here,

591
00:43:15,250 --> 00:43:20,010
I'll kind of go over what was requested to be discussed

592
00:43:20,010 --> 00:43:21,050
at the January meeting.

593
00:43:21,730 --> 00:43:23,310
So the most recent current agreement

594
00:43:23,310 --> 00:43:25,910
since we're not in this 20-year agreement yet

595
00:43:25,910 --> 00:43:30,230
is for five years with automatic annual continuations.

596
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:35,450
And so, saying hello to Little League and the city of requesting a 20-year term agreement to be approved.

597
00:43:36,670 --> 00:43:45,150
And so, that, again, is to support the St. Helena Little League capital fundraising efforts and just continuity of the programs that have been out on the Little League fields.

598
00:43:45,830 --> 00:43:52,190
So, in 2018, the agreement that was in front of us had a 90-day determination notice for any reason.

599
00:43:53,290 --> 00:43:58,110
That was previously requested to be removed by St. Helena Little League and we had it kept in there.

600
00:43:58,110 --> 00:44:05,710
However, in this agreement you see now, we have removed that clause, so there is no more

601
00:44:06,810 --> 00:44:12,390
termination for any reason clause in there, and the city attorney did advice staff of

602
00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:18,450
potential risks that could be on the city for that, that's in the staff report as well.

603
00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:23,070
However, we acting in good faith was saying a little league as well as the city and our continued

604
00:44:23,070 --> 00:44:30,450
partnership have removed that. And the next slide please. And so in the contract this was noted

605
00:44:30,450 --> 00:44:37,490
after the agenda was posted that this section 11 in terms was previously in there and was mistakenly

606
00:44:37,490 --> 00:44:43,550
removed so that would be looked to be added back in there and that's just with the continuation

607
00:44:43,550 --> 00:44:49,590
of this agreement after the 20 years that it will automatically renew unless either party chooses

608
00:44:49,590 --> 00:44:54,690
to negotiate, engage in negotiations. So we'll look to add that in there and then just adding

609
00:44:54,690 --> 00:44:59,970
inclusive language for softball into a variety of sections, the softball program.

610
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:25,280
The program is alive and well in St. Little Little League, and that was not previously in there. So those are just a couple of the caveats that didn't make it onto this current agreement in front of you, but those are additions I will ask with the city attorney once approved by council. Next slide. Thank you. Hopefully play ball. And I will field any questions at the council as any questions.

611
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:32,680
Any brief clarifying questions before I open it to public comment it's bear it this for Mr. Walsh

612
00:45:34,700 --> 00:45:39,960
I just want to understand from a legal perspective. Are you are you

613
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:40,900
recommending

614
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:42,600
Council

615
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,760
design this

616
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:47,520
so

617
00:45:48,660 --> 00:45:55,520
I would I would say my my position on the on the term hasn't changed from from what it was but ultimately I think

618
00:45:56,900 --> 00:46:03,100
staff is comfortable based on the long-term partnership and the desire to work with

619
00:46:03,100 --> 00:46:07,420
Italy and the belief that they can work with Italy for a long term, that the risks

620
00:46:07,420 --> 00:46:13,600
that I outlined at the last meeting are something that they're willing to accept as

621
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:19,920
a possibility in the city and literally will be able to work together.

622
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:26,540
But I would say, you know, I advised you of the legal risks last time those still exist.

623
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:34,240
I did advise you of what I see in other similar contracts across the state, as and changed.

624
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:40,940
So, you know, my position is the same, but obviously I'm not the only factor in the decision that you make.

625
00:46:41,580 --> 00:46:42,980
Thank you. I remember the discussion.

626
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:54,710
There's, all right, let me open it to public comment, receive any if necessary, all right.

627
00:46:55,710 --> 00:47:02,010
One item that I want to see clarification on may not be exactly how you intended to say,

628
00:47:02,290 --> 00:47:06,830
but there is the ability to terminate the contract on breach, correct?

629
00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:12,850
Which is highly unlikely, but maybe I'll go to do you Mr. Walsh first,

630
00:47:12,850 --> 00:47:16,690
And then if there's any clarification, that is absolutely correct.

631
00:47:17,050 --> 00:47:21,970
In the event of breach by either party, the agreement can be terminated, or it's on

632
00:47:21,970 --> 00:47:24,070
the dissolution of Sandley and Lily.

633
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:26,920
All right.

634
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,440
Anything else to add to this mix?

635
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:34,420
I'm going to close the public comment, bring it back forward deliberation, any comments or

636
00:47:35,180 --> 00:47:37,320
other items to discuss here?

637
00:47:39,140 --> 00:47:40,500
If not, I'll look for a motion.

638
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,060
I'll make a motion to adopt.

639
00:47:42,060 --> 00:47:46,160
Can I jump in with it?

640
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,940
Can we make sure that it's clear that we're adding in the section 11,

641
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:52,460
is it my, am I,

642
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:53,300
did I follow correctly?

643
00:47:54,100 --> 00:47:56,180
Yeah, so that needs to be added into it.

644
00:47:56,340 --> 00:47:59,600
So it's just with the additions that we noted in the staff report.

645
00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:01,280
Thank you.

646
00:48:03,370 --> 00:48:09,270
Twenty years of renewal unless either party gets noticed one year prior.

647
00:48:09,870 --> 00:48:10,390
Correct.

648
00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:14,490
Motion to adopt as with the language mayor-doring.

649
00:48:14,490 --> 00:48:22,790
Just stated and there was one other. I agree. It's just the inclusive language that we have, but it doesn't do anything with the

650
00:48:22,790 --> 00:48:25,990
Contrary. With the inclusive language, please.

651
00:48:26,270 --> 00:48:28,270
For softball. For softball.

652
00:48:28,850 --> 00:48:29,090
All right.

653
00:48:32,410 --> 00:48:36,650
All right, this fair thank you. And there was a second. I'll have a roll call, please.

654
00:48:37,050 --> 00:48:37,350
Can't remember.

655
00:48:37,890 --> 00:48:38,930
Yes. Can't remember.

656
00:48:39,430 --> 00:48:39,750
Yes.

657
00:48:39,970 --> 00:48:40,290
Can't remember.

658
00:48:41,570 --> 00:48:42,170
Vice Mayor Dees.

659
00:48:42,430 --> 00:48:42,710
Yes.

660
00:48:43,190 --> 00:48:46,370
Yes. Congratulations and thank you for your service to our community.

661
00:48:46,370 --> 00:48:47,210
All right.

662
00:48:47,210 --> 00:48:47,630
Thank you.

663
00:48:47,810 --> 00:48:48,090
Great job.

664
00:48:49,650 --> 00:48:50,270
All right.

665
00:48:50,830 --> 00:48:52,050
So we are in the business.

666
00:48:53,470 --> 00:48:53,990
Thank you, Ashley.

667
00:48:57,530 --> 00:49:02,010
Looks like we can take item 13 fairly quickly before if anybody needs a break.

668
00:49:02,170 --> 00:49:05,530
But let's move through this item.

669
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:12,970
This weekend, you can introduce the staff member to bring this up and we'll go from there.

670
00:49:13,710 --> 00:49:15,210
Andrew, are you presenting this?

671
00:49:15,210 --> 00:49:15,510
Perfect.

672
00:49:17,090 --> 00:49:17,290
All right.

673
00:49:17,630 --> 00:49:18,050
Please do so.

674
00:49:18,050 --> 00:49:30,850
So this is a resolution to approve a new member to the Active Transportation and Sustainability Commission for a term that is currently vacant.

675
00:49:30,890 --> 00:49:33,370
It would expire June 30th, 2027.

676
00:49:34,190 --> 00:49:40,350
There would still be two additional alternate positions expiring on June 30th, 2028.

677
00:49:40,350 --> 00:49:42,890
The candidate is Antoinette Freeman.

678
00:49:43,210 --> 00:49:45,690
She does live outside of the area in England.

679
00:49:45,850 --> 00:49:48,190
It has strong ties to St. Helena.

680
00:49:49,070 --> 00:49:50,650
And also sustainability.

681
00:49:51,290 --> 00:49:56,130
She actually had worked as an intern for the city year

682
00:49:56,130 --> 00:49:58,030
and half two years ago as well.

683
00:49:58,510 --> 00:50:02,730
And performed well with the sustainability factor

684
00:50:02,730 --> 00:50:07,310
and has continued that type of a role in her future endeavors

685
00:50:07,310 --> 00:50:17,790
as well. And the rules with participating within the ATSC do allow for the Council to approve

686
00:50:17,790 --> 00:50:23,970
someone who does not live in the city to be on the committee. That is all.

687
00:50:24,650 --> 00:50:31,390
All right. Thank you, Mr. Bradley. Any initial questions? Mr. Bradley, that's staff.

688
00:50:31,390 --> 00:50:40,860
See, now I open it to public comment and he comment on this item, I'll bring it back to the council.

689
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:53,080
Any, any other comments before I, I'm going to make a motion here, but are we, are we granting the exception for this role?

690
00:50:53,080 --> 00:51:00,080
Or is that something we need to it at hot case by case it's case by case. Okay

691
00:51:02,780 --> 00:51:05,580
I've gotten to know I had to add over the years. She's worked here

692
00:51:05,580 --> 00:51:10,940
I've grown across her in Calestoga. She worked in Calestoga really even though she is out of our

693
00:51:10,940 --> 00:51:16,120
Community she's close enough. She's she's an exceptional person. She's very highly qualified

694
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:22,140
She has a deep interest in the exact subject matter that she's being appointed to a fill space

695
00:51:22,140 --> 00:51:36,600
I think we're lucky to have her, and so I will make the motion to prove her application and approve the exception to our policy.

696
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,700
She lives outside her jurisdiction, making an exception on this in this one case.

697
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:45,220
So there's the motion, not very articulate, but you can get my drift.

698
00:51:45,740 --> 00:51:46,720
Second, I will second.

699
00:51:47,020 --> 00:51:47,240
All right.

700
00:51:47,240 --> 00:51:49,240
All right, any further discussion?

701
00:51:51,610 --> 00:51:53,330
And I'll look for roll call, please.

702
00:51:53,910 --> 00:51:54,590
Mayor Dory.

703
00:51:56,390 --> 00:51:56,490
Yes.

704
00:51:57,330 --> 00:51:58,070
Councillor Mubarak.

705
00:51:58,930 --> 00:51:58,950
Yes.

706
00:51:59,390 --> 00:51:59,550
Councillor Mubarak.

707
00:52:00,790 --> 00:52:00,890
Yes.

708
00:52:03,610 --> 00:52:04,330
Vice Mayor Dysink.

709
00:52:04,650 --> 00:52:04,890
Yes.

710
00:52:06,210 --> 00:52:07,090
Thank you.

711
00:52:07,570 --> 00:52:08,270
The flight delay there.

712
00:52:08,490 --> 00:52:11,110
I'm so used to voting last, which I love.

713
00:52:12,250 --> 00:52:12,930
I thought, for I don't know.

714
00:52:13,010 --> 00:52:13,290
I have to vote.

715
00:52:13,810 --> 00:52:14,790
Thank you for that support.

716
00:52:15,270 --> 00:52:15,290
All right.

717
00:52:15,710 --> 00:52:16,450
And welcome aboard.

718
00:52:16,450 --> 00:52:22,570
at Antoinette Freeman and others in the community looking for a place to do public service.

719
00:52:22,730 --> 00:52:26,310
There are a lot of committees where we have openings as was announced by the clerks.

720
00:52:26,550 --> 00:52:30,470
So please do check those out and anybody wants to talk to me about any of those positions

721
00:52:30,470 --> 00:52:34,690
I'd be happy to talk to you or any of our other council members who have served on those commissions

722
00:52:34,690 --> 00:52:35,710
in the past.

723
00:52:36,850 --> 00:52:37,270
All right.

724
00:52:38,630 --> 00:52:43,110
We are now on to exciting times 13.2.

725
00:52:43,830 --> 00:52:44,970
Yes, we are.

726
00:52:44,970 --> 00:52:52,810
So this is the annual comprehensive financial report and independent auditors report of internal

727
00:52:52,810 --> 00:52:55,330
controls over our financial reporting.

728
00:52:56,630 --> 00:53:03,390
So this is an important presentation and a really important document.

729
00:53:05,470 --> 00:53:14,570
The city publishes the annual report each year in order to disclose and share financial

730
00:53:14,570 --> 00:53:20,410
information, as well as to comply with a number of state and federal requirements and

731
00:53:20,410 --> 00:53:24,370
and covenants that are included in our bonds, and we might be issuing.

732
00:53:25,330 --> 00:53:31,210
We're typically finished with the audit and its reports.

733
00:53:32,310 --> 00:53:38,270
By the end of the year, January February is usually when it's all wrapped up and we bring a report

734
00:53:38,270 --> 00:53:43,070
to Council. This is July, so we're later than our normal time.

735
00:53:43,070 --> 00:53:47,250
That delay is due to a number of factors.

736
00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:54,330
Part of it is that we have a different auditing team this year, which is good.

737
00:53:54,550 --> 00:53:58,530
It's best practice to change your auditor from time to time.

738
00:53:59,150 --> 00:54:07,130
The downside though is that we have some maybe just rough passes of the baton,

739
00:54:07,130 --> 00:54:14,390
a little bit of learning for both sides and so it tends to delay the delivery, which is exactly

740
00:54:14,390 --> 00:54:19,670
what has occurred this year. I would expect that in future years would be back on our normal

741
00:54:19,670 --> 00:54:26,930
cycle and have a report to you all at the beginning of the year. The annual comprehensive financial

742
00:54:26,930 --> 00:54:34,510
report is available on our website so anybody can take a look at it. It's accessed through a link

743
00:54:34,510 --> 00:54:43,690
In the staff report or you can go right to the website. It has about 185 pages or so, so there's tons of information for folks to check out and learn about their city.

744
00:54:45,310 --> 00:54:57,590
What's important to me, a variety of things are, but one of the things that's important is that the independent auditoriums report on internal control over financial reporting.

745
00:54:58,610 --> 00:55:06,190
Disclose that there were no instances of significant deficiency or material weakness at all.

746
00:55:08,650 --> 00:55:21,790
They also found that there was one instance of non-compliance with some provisions of the compliance related to major federal programs.

747
00:55:21,790 --> 00:55:30,030
That relates to filing a form or filing the form that is necessary with the federal audit

748
00:55:30,030 --> 00:55:30,910
clearinghouse.

749
00:55:31,630 --> 00:55:35,870
We filed that form a few months later than normal.

750
00:55:37,690 --> 00:55:45,410
But what one wants to find when looking through an audit is that issue of any significant

751
00:55:45,410 --> 00:55:51,510
deficiencies or material weaknesses, because that goes directly to our controls or internal

752
00:55:51,510 --> 00:55:59,890
controls are reporting, are accounting, and what are independent auditor-found in their work is

753
00:55:59,890 --> 00:56:03,970
good that we have no significant efficiencies or material weaknesses.

754
00:56:04,390 --> 00:56:09,710
We should be buoyed by that and we should congratulate the good work of our administrative

755
00:56:09,710 --> 00:56:16,370
services director and treasurer who is here to introduce the site and introduce folks from

756
00:56:16,370 --> 00:56:17,030
the audit team.

757
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:23,420
Yeah, thank you very much, that's the manager me can. So I'm going to turn it over now to

758
00:56:23,420 --> 00:56:28,280
Adi Harshwell from Harshwell and Associates. They are our new auditing firm for this

759
00:56:28,860 --> 00:56:31,740
Professional year 2025. Thank you.

760
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:40,060
Good evening, everybody. This is Adi Harshwell. I'm one of the partners in Harshwell and company.

761
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:46,920
I'll go ahead and share my screen and go through a quick PowerPoint presentation

762
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,540
and you get from there.

763
00:57:05,130 --> 00:57:12,670
Is my screen visible? Yes, it is. Okay. Perfect.

764
00:57:19,260 --> 00:57:20,380
So it's a

765
00:57:20,380 --> 00:57:27,360
proper presentation where we talk about the audit results and go to a few of the

766
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:33,300
financial statement analysis. As it was earlier mentioned,

767
00:57:35,540 --> 00:57:36,600
it is an unmodified

768
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:44,440
opinion, it's a clean opinion. There were no material weaknesses identified in the

769
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:51,340
environmental concerns, no significant deficiencies, federal awards, it's an unmodified opinion,

770
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:59,540
no material weaknesses identified and no significant deficiencies reported. I also want to add

771
00:57:59,540 --> 00:58:09,360
that we have received full cooperation from the administration and full support during the

772
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:10,060
audit process.

773
00:58:10,260 --> 00:58:16,600
We experienced no issues during the transition and during the audit process itself.

774
00:58:22,030 --> 00:58:25,410
Here we talk about the statement of net positions.

775
00:58:25,410 --> 00:58:40,000
it compares the 2024 and 2025 financial so you can see the trends. As you can see the net position has increased from

776
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,400
96 million to 100 million.

777
00:58:53,310 --> 00:58:59,830
In this analysis we separate the net investment in capital assets,

778
00:58:59,830 --> 00:59:05,830
the restricted funds and understricted funds and to see the trends and how it is

779
00:59:05,830 --> 00:59:09,190
bi-fogated between the restricted and understricted funds.

780
00:59:18,220 --> 00:59:20,300
Here we talk about the program

781
00:59:20,300 --> 00:59:26,620
venues, the general revenues and expenses and doing a comparison again with the 24

782
00:59:26,620 --> 00:59:28,580
financials with 25.

783
00:59:32,860 --> 00:59:37,440
As you can note here, the changes in net position

784
00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:49,780
compared to fiscal year 24 has gone down, and the reasons are further explained in the audit report itself.

785
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,660
If you want me to identify it's on page number 8 of the audit report.

786
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,540
Don't mind, I could share that quickly.

787
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:15,500
So here are the three reasons why there is a change in the net balances.

788
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:22,860
And this is on page number eight.

789
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:50,880
In this slide, we specifically focus on the governmental activities and try to look at how we are doing here.

790
01:00:50,880 --> 01:01:02,210
And as you can see, the change in net position is mainly focused on the governmental activities as also highlighted in the audit report.

791
01:01:08,290 --> 01:01:15,010
In this slide, we specifically look at the business type activities, and this has been fairly stable.

792
01:01:15,330 --> 01:01:21,510
And as you can see, the changes in net position is very similar to fiscal year 24.

793
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:32,520
If there are any questions, I'm happy to address them.

794
01:01:33,260 --> 01:01:36,580
And as it was previously mentioned,

795
01:01:39,300 --> 01:01:41,560
there was some delays during the transition.

796
01:01:42,620 --> 01:01:51,140
And that is understandable, but we are fairly confident that the next fiscal year audit for 96,

797
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:56,500
we would be, we would start in time and make sure that we're efficient in

798
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:02,840
time.

799
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:08,750
I'll put it to public comment, right public comment.

800
01:02:18,390 --> 01:02:23,770
Gary Rose, and I just want to mention that he mentioned no significant deficiencies,

801
01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:30,430
but on the PowerPoint presentation for the second heading, it actually showed significant deficiencies.

802
01:02:34,030 --> 01:02:36,910
So at this just a point, I think it's a mistake.

803
01:02:39,230 --> 01:02:41,210
I noted that also, I was going to ask a question.

804
01:02:41,210 --> 01:02:42,710
You can see it right in the staff report.

805
01:02:42,950 --> 01:02:45,790
There's two conflicting statements there, Ms. Kellogg.

806
01:02:46,190 --> 01:02:47,190
Yeah, I can clarify that.

807
01:02:47,350 --> 01:02:50,310
There was one significant deficiency identified

808
01:02:50,310 --> 01:02:53,730
under the Federal Award section for noncompliance

809
01:02:53,730 --> 01:02:56,010
because the single audit was not submitted

810
01:02:56,010 --> 01:02:59,070
within seven months of the close of the fiscal year.

811
01:03:00,090 --> 01:03:02,250
And we did get that submitted recently.

812
01:03:02,950 --> 01:03:05,510
This is the first year that we've actually been late

813
01:03:05,510 --> 01:03:08,390
with the reporting of the single audit and part of it

814
01:03:08,390 --> 01:03:10,990
had to do with the transition that we experienced

815
01:03:10,990 --> 01:03:14,370
and also some staffing shortages that we had during fiscal year 25.

816
01:03:15,230 --> 01:03:19,210
But we do have protocols in place to ensure that they'll be submitted on time in future

817
01:03:19,210 --> 01:03:19,750
years.

818
01:03:20,530 --> 01:03:20,810
All right.

819
01:03:20,890 --> 01:03:22,330
Thank you, Mr. Rose, for pointing that out.

820
01:03:22,470 --> 01:03:23,370
I did note that also.

821
01:03:23,450 --> 01:03:26,090
Any other questions or comments from my colleagues?

822
01:03:28,130 --> 01:03:31,370
What is the proper motion to be made here, accept?

823
01:03:31,850 --> 01:03:33,510
It's a receive and file, yes.

824
01:03:33,870 --> 01:03:34,590
Review and file.

825
01:03:34,870 --> 01:03:35,850
No motion necessary.

826
01:03:42,170 --> 01:03:43,050
Anything I need to know?

827
01:03:44,770 --> 01:03:46,350
Any other questions or comments?

828
01:03:47,050 --> 01:03:47,510
Vice Mayor?

829
01:03:48,370 --> 01:03:49,570
Yeah, I would ask a couple of questions.

830
01:03:50,910 --> 01:03:53,990
You know, the sales tax was down in 2425.

831
01:03:54,670 --> 01:03:58,270
Do we know where we are this year?

832
01:03:58,350 --> 01:04:02,410
I mean, it's sort of, yeah, that's what I gave me first question.

833
01:04:03,030 --> 01:04:08,150
Yeah, so it is trending better this year than what it was compared to in fiscal year 25.

834
01:04:08,150 --> 01:04:12,790
are initial projections that we had the beginning of fiscal year

835
01:04:12,790 --> 01:04:18,110
26 were fairly low, and then when we brought our mid-year report to Council,

836
01:04:18,310 --> 01:04:21,470
there was actually some adjustments to increase the original projections

837
01:04:21,470 --> 01:04:24,550
because it is trending higher than what was originally anticipated.

838
01:04:25,430 --> 01:04:28,410
We haven't received all of fiscal year 26 yet.

839
01:04:28,590 --> 01:04:35,210
It's about two months behind, so we won't actually receive the full year until about the third week of August.

840
01:04:35,210 --> 01:04:47,090
And I mean, it's hard not to notice right the revenues here and the expenses here and I don't well.

841
01:04:48,690 --> 01:04:52,210
So I know we've got a tax measure that will be on the ballot.

842
01:04:52,870 --> 01:04:54,890
Are we thinking about those in other ways?

843
01:04:55,090 --> 01:04:59,230
Is that something we should discuss when we have a study session?

844
01:04:59,230 --> 01:05:06,370
Or should we be thinking about economic development in more robust, whether it's a citizens

845
01:05:06,370 --> 01:05:13,630
committee or something, or how are we just thinking about the future beyond the sales tax

846
01:05:13,630 --> 01:05:15,130
measure, which I do recognize?

847
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:18,960
Do you want to take this, Andrew?

848
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:26,400
That's a good observation.

849
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:30,540
And it's not one that is new.

850
01:05:30,900 --> 01:05:34,960
It's one that the Council and previous Councils have discussed for years.

851
01:05:35,460 --> 01:05:38,640
We do have an imbalance in our budget.

852
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:47,220
And the Council has taken as recognized that and taken action to place a measure that would address that by raising some two million dollars.

853
01:05:47,220 --> 01:05:55,080
In addition to that, though, there are opportunities for us to make our service more efficient.

854
01:05:55,780 --> 01:05:59,280
The Blackburg report is identified a number of those, and then you're correct.

855
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:06,420
There's also a role for economic development, both renovation of older properties, obsolete buildings,

856
01:06:06,620 --> 01:06:08,160
and then consideration of new development.

857
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:14,180
There are new development proposals that are active in the planning department.

858
01:06:14,180 --> 01:06:19,380
and they'll be before this city council I would expect in coming months and you have an opportunity

859
01:06:19,380 --> 01:06:25,120
then to take action on those and so it's really a combination of things one addressing the

860
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:34,000
imbalance presumably our voters understand that and will support us in that later this year

861
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:41,920
and then capturing those things the Black Berger has identified and other items that staff

862
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:43,160
as we'll bring this forward.

863
01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:46,880
We'll be looking at the currently adopted budget,

864
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:54,380
later this year in fall, and you'll have an opportunity to react to

865
01:06:54,380 --> 01:06:56,900
recommendations from staff for adjustments to that.

866
01:06:57,540 --> 01:07:02,840
And we'll bring ideas about budget savings and ideas for new initiatives as well.

867
01:07:04,620 --> 01:07:06,240
I'm going to keep going on that.

868
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,480
Well, well, I've let this go a little bit,

869
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:14,440
but that's really not quite the subject matter that we're addressing.

870
01:07:16,740 --> 01:07:17,580
It's an annual odd.

871
01:07:17,580 --> 01:07:18,580
I mean, it's a close call for them.

872
01:07:18,780 --> 01:07:21,300
But if we go too far, I feel in terms of talking about the policies

873
01:07:21,300 --> 01:07:24,920
going forward, we're really going a little bit outside of the scope

874
01:07:25,380 --> 01:07:27,260
of the hearing, let's say you Mr. Walsh.

875
01:07:27,420 --> 01:07:31,720
I don't want to be hard on this, but I don't want to have an extended discussion

876
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:31,980
there.

877
01:07:32,260 --> 01:07:32,560
I think so.

878
01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:35,720
I mean, I think it's fine for Mr. McCann to kind of say these

879
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,980
or things were going to take forward in the future,

880
01:07:38,980 --> 01:07:43,440
but getting into extended conversation about it is not really appropriate.

881
01:07:44,100 --> 01:07:45,200
What do you think about your next question?

882
01:07:45,380 --> 01:07:46,300
Will it fall in that or not?

883
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:46,820
It is.

884
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:47,640
I'm okay with this.

885
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:47,940
Okay.

886
01:07:48,100 --> 01:07:52,820
I guess I never, when do we get to discuss that?

887
01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:54,480
I guess that's my question.

888
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:57,580
I thought we were like waiting for the audit, but we can't discuss that.

889
01:07:57,620 --> 01:07:59,660
Well, the audit is an important piece.

890
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:08,540
It provides information about the last year, the last two years, and also more than

891
01:08:08,540 --> 01:08:11,240
anything kind of confirms what we've already been talking about.

892
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,420
And so it confirms the statements that have been provided.

893
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:20,200
It confirms the imbalance that we see confirms our practices, which is good.

894
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:26,840
So that gives everybody a common playing field of common foundation to start from.

895
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:34,800
We can then build upon that knowledge and that certainty as we look forward and we'll be doing

896
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:41,580
that in conjunction with budgeting, and I presume other discussions, as we discussed earlier

897
01:08:42,140 --> 01:08:47,460
about our plans for Blackberg having a steady session, we can identify what we want to

898
01:08:47,460 --> 01:08:48,060
talk about there.

899
01:08:48,220 --> 01:08:53,120
There's no doubt that there's a need to have a broader discussion, Council-led about strategic

900
01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:57,260
planning, and where we want to go, how we want to address those things that Mr. Gowering

901
01:08:57,260 --> 01:08:57,740
is correct.

902
01:08:58,060 --> 01:09:01,280
That's probably for another agenda item than this one.

903
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,040
I have one question.

904
01:09:03,300 --> 01:09:03,540
It's better.

905
01:09:04,780 --> 01:09:08,620
And it's around the expense revenue gap.

906
01:09:08,780 --> 01:09:09,440
I was surprised.

907
01:09:09,620 --> 01:09:13,000
I know we've had a gap for a number of years.

908
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:15,660
Maybe even a decade.

909
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,060
But I was surprised with the percentage gap.

910
01:09:19,220 --> 01:09:25,320
11% growth in expenses and 0.3% or something around there.

911
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:29,220
of growth and revenues, is that cause for concern,

912
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:34,960
a harbinger of what's coming because in the previous

913
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,300
calculations, I don't know, in the finance committee,

914
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,920
we've talked about it maybe because we've aggregated it.

915
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,800
It's about a 2% gap.

916
01:09:46,090 --> 01:09:51,290
So it just had popped out, and I think Vice-Marie D.C.

917
01:09:51,330 --> 01:09:55,570
alluded to it, but just doing the math.

918
01:09:56,250 --> 01:10:05,950
that's significant. Do you have any comments on on why is it a one-time item with expenses

919
01:10:07,310 --> 01:10:14,570
or just the cost of doing business? You could say some of it is one-time items but the majority

920
01:10:14,570 --> 01:10:19,350
of it is the cost of doing business. We've seen a huge increase over the past couple of years

921
01:10:19,350 --> 01:10:25,070
and our health care costs are property insurance liability insurance as well as workers

922
01:10:25,070 --> 01:10:31,470
and those are going to be steady increases that we're seeing moving into future years as well.

923
01:10:31,990 --> 01:10:37,830
But we do also have hired some higher contract costs because of projects that we're moving forward.

924
01:10:38,430 --> 01:10:43,550
And those won't necessarily continue at the same rate that they did in that particular year.

925
01:10:44,490 --> 01:10:49,390
Okay. Thank you. Other comments or questions from my colleagues?

926
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:59,480
All right, receiving file, correct, no motion necessary, correct, let's, okay, we will receive

927
01:10:59,480 --> 01:11:00,760
and file it.

928
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,940
And thank you to our new audit team.

929
01:11:03,960 --> 01:11:08,180
We look forward to work with you next year, Mandy, thank you very much for all your work

930
01:11:08,180 --> 01:11:09,520
on this.

931
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:21,680
And I'll violate my own rule and say maybe the early fall or early, our late summer for a

932
01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:25,400
and we have some issues to sort through more information better.

933
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:28,260
So obviously that's dependent on staff capacity

934
01:11:28,260 --> 01:11:31,500
and another number of issues that I recognize.

935
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:32,780
Yes. Okay, got you.

936
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:35,440
Thank you. All right. Thank you for that report.

937
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,120
Thank you, Star, for being here.

938
01:11:38,820 --> 01:11:41,500
Welcome to St. Alene, we'll look forward to seeing you next year.

939
01:11:42,300 --> 01:11:44,420
Absolutely, and we'll definitely be on time.

940
01:11:44,820 --> 01:11:45,280
Thank you.

941
01:11:46,980 --> 01:11:50,080
All right, on the 13, anybody need to take a quick break?

942
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:58,840
you all ready to keep going five minute break. Okay, we'll do that. We'll come back at seven, 17.

943
01:18:48,660 --> 01:18:53,200
All right, we're going to reconvene our meeting and go on to item 13.3.

944
01:18:55,700 --> 01:19:01,670
I'll give, I'll give the public a few seconds to come to order.

945
01:19:13,830 --> 01:19:13,850
All right.

946
01:19:15,230 --> 01:19:18,390
It's the Bradley were ready to go. Everybody ready to go? All right.

947
01:19:18,970 --> 01:19:22,530
Yes. We're on to item 13.3.

948
01:19:22,530 --> 01:19:29,490
It's okay. Great. Thank you, Council. And hello, Gary. Good to see you.

949
01:19:29,630 --> 01:19:37,830
Hi, good to see you, John. This item is a request to authorize the execution of a professional

950
01:19:37,830 --> 01:19:46,210
services agreement with Bob Murray and Associates to lead our recruitment efforts for the city to find

951
01:19:46,210 --> 01:19:48,330
permanent city manager.

952
01:19:52,770 --> 01:19:57,350
We had some conversation about this earlier this year and we moved

953
01:19:57,350 --> 01:20:04,590
forward with seeking proposals from firms that are involved in this type of recruitment effort.

954
01:20:04,950 --> 01:20:12,250
We got, well, half a dozen, seven different proposals and the council had set up a subcommittee

955
01:20:12,250 --> 01:20:18,290
of the Vice Mayor and Council Member Barric to work with me to look through those proposals

956
01:20:18,290 --> 01:20:21,910
and to recommend a preferred firm.

957
01:20:23,090 --> 01:20:29,910
We isolated three firms that we thought stood out from the group of seven and we ultimately

958
01:20:29,910 --> 01:20:35,970
interviewed two firms, one firm dropped out due to a potential conflict of interests.

959
01:20:37,110 --> 01:20:45,430
And we selected Bob Murray and Associates to perform this work for us, Gary Phillips,

960
01:20:46,130 --> 01:20:54,430
who's here joining us was, say, instrumental in that decision, his presentation and just

961
01:20:54,430 --> 01:21:02,790
response to questions and flexibility that he demonstrated in sort of the unique,

962
01:21:05,950 --> 01:21:05,950
maybe

963
01:21:05,950 --> 01:21:11,530
Council had an interest that really seemed to be a good match for us.

964
01:21:12,450 --> 01:21:17,390
So the subcommittee has recommended that we move forward with Bob Murray and Associates.

965
01:21:17,590 --> 01:21:20,350
I asked Gary if he could join us.

966
01:21:20,350 --> 01:21:21,310
He's had a busy day.

967
01:21:21,470 --> 01:21:26,710
I think he was doing his recruitment thing and working with another body here in the Bay Area

968
01:21:26,710 --> 01:21:27,450
earlier today.

969
01:21:28,070 --> 01:21:30,570
So he is joining us after a long day.

970
01:21:30,890 --> 01:21:32,370
So appreciate that.

971
01:21:33,010 --> 01:21:41,050
The proposal is attached so you can see all of the various tasks and ideas that Gary would provide.

972
01:21:42,270 --> 01:21:48,210
And what I can tell you is that I've worked with Gary and a number of other firms over the years and I've enjoyed working with Gary.

973
01:21:48,290 --> 01:21:54,250
And I think he's done a very good job in those different searches that I have been involved in with him.

974
01:21:54,250 --> 01:21:58,750
And so I have great confidence in his firm, and I think you could do a good job for us,

975
01:21:58,810 --> 01:22:02,510
and I think the proposal outlines that.

976
01:22:02,750 --> 01:22:08,270
I know there are a couple of questions, perhaps, from you all about the proposal, I'd

977
01:22:08,270 --> 01:22:13,290
be happy to answer those, or probably more appropriately, for Mr. Phillips to do so.

978
01:22:15,380 --> 01:22:15,660
All right.

979
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:20,980
Thank you, Mr. McCann, any initial clarifying questions from Mr. McCann and Mr. Phillips.

980
01:22:20,980 --> 01:22:22,900
Let me open it for public comment.

981
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,080
Anyone wishing to make comment on this item?

982
01:22:28,410 --> 01:22:28,870
All right.

983
01:22:29,070 --> 01:22:32,270
I'll close public comment and bring it back to our council.

984
01:22:33,050 --> 01:22:35,750
First, I'll look to the members of the subcommittee.

985
01:22:36,210 --> 01:22:42,130
Asked it, passed you to provide any inside our comments or thoughts about the matter.

986
01:22:43,290 --> 01:22:47,850
Other than what has been said, either one of you.

987
01:22:50,150 --> 01:22:50,810
If not, that's fine.

988
01:22:50,870 --> 01:22:51,790
We live here.

989
01:22:51,950 --> 01:22:54,690
You're both recommending that we approve this contract, correct?

990
01:22:54,690 --> 01:22:55,930
Okay, any reservations?

991
01:22:56,390 --> 01:22:57,050
No, okay.

992
01:22:57,330 --> 01:22:58,190
Well, yeah.

993
01:22:58,330 --> 01:23:00,190
Why is there a really nice conversation

994
01:23:00,190 --> 01:23:03,450
with Gary, Mr. Gary Phillips, Mr. Phillips?

995
01:23:04,270 --> 01:23:06,170
And so I think we fell, felt comfortable

996
01:23:06,170 --> 01:23:09,850
after the conversation, so thank you for that.

997
01:23:09,990 --> 01:23:10,730
We felt good about it.

998
01:23:10,810 --> 01:23:12,070
We did speak.

999
01:23:12,530 --> 01:23:14,970
I think a reasonable length about some things

1000
01:23:16,030 --> 01:23:17,270
that we would, you know,

1001
01:23:17,350 --> 01:23:18,630
that might have been a little bit different

1002
01:23:18,630 --> 01:23:21,090
that's in the standard proposal,

1003
01:23:21,330 --> 01:23:24,130
right that is still attached to the contract.

1004
01:23:24,130 --> 01:23:42,130
And so I would really love, we sort of spoke about, you know, opening things up beyond just the usual city manager role effects and really focusing on these leadership qualities and recruitment that actively reaches beyond the traditional city manager pool.

1005
01:23:43,830 --> 01:23:47,630
Well, I think one request we had, which we may have actually spoken with after we got off the phone,

1006
01:23:47,810 --> 01:23:53,550
what was the ability to see all of the resume, or the applicants, you know, of course the finalist recommended,

1007
01:23:53,850 --> 01:24:02,310
but even just being able to access those who maybe were qualified, but not necessarily making the top list and then not qualified.

1008
01:24:02,970 --> 01:24:11,390
So I'd love to see that maybe in an updated proposal just so we all, the way it reads now as it's a contract.

1009
01:24:11,390 --> 01:24:18,310
but doesn't reflect that conversation and then I have one other comment.

1010
01:24:18,590 --> 01:24:19,770
Well, you want to start with that.

1011
01:24:20,650 --> 01:24:24,750
Is that doable? Can we update the proposal?

1012
01:24:25,410 --> 01:24:28,430
So is that to me, or to Jim?

1013
01:24:29,170 --> 01:24:31,070
To me, the disaster, yes, yes.

1014
01:24:31,110 --> 01:24:36,610
If the council wishes to add some provisions or make something more clear,

1015
01:24:36,610 --> 01:24:44,210
we can certainly do that, so you can approve this with modifications, so long as Mr. Phillips

1016
01:24:44,210 --> 01:24:48,010
is understands that and is comfortable accepting those.

1017
01:24:48,570 --> 01:24:55,310
So, if I can speak to that road quickly, Council, and Jim, this is really not deviating

1018
01:24:55,310 --> 01:25:04,190
from what we normally do, so I'm very comfortable explicitly adding that language, but for

1019
01:25:04,190 --> 01:25:12,230
to look outside, you know, the traditional markets, we do that all the time, so that's not that unique.

1020
01:25:12,510 --> 01:25:19,170
It really, you know, my clients often will give a criteria like that to say, we're open to these non-traditional candidates.

1021
01:25:19,370 --> 01:25:28,070
And we'll make sure that we do a broad nationwide recruitment and do targeted outreach to other markets for sure.

1022
01:25:28,070 --> 01:25:35,370
And as far as making sure that you folks counsel good chance to see everybody that's standard operating procedure for me

1023
01:25:35,370 --> 01:25:41,930
So that's that's not unique so but we can make sure that language is in the contract. Yeah, that would be great

1024
01:25:41,930 --> 01:25:43,490
I think it lists like

1025
01:25:43,490 --> 01:25:49,870
All the places that will be marketed to and they're pretty specific to right city to city managers

1026
01:25:49,870 --> 01:25:53,970
I have what can you cut me off if I'm off topic here?

1027
01:26:01,250 --> 01:26:07,530
I've heard some comments about the timeline on all of this because we are getting to

1028
01:26:07,530 --> 01:26:14,230
election season and I know that this puts the selection right about at the election.

1029
01:26:14,930 --> 01:26:19,870
So if it's possible to talk about now, I think it's something that we should be considering

1030
01:26:19,870 --> 01:26:24,590
and I don't know. I've actually seen on the social media that the folks in a nearby town

1031
01:26:24,590 --> 01:26:29,650
are already with the have already begun a recruitment are calling for the next council to make

1032
01:26:29,650 --> 01:26:37,150
the decision. I see how it could be difficult and I don't know how candidates could be kept

1033
01:26:37,150 --> 01:26:43,010
abreast and able to make a decision once they're seated, but I do think it's something we're talking

1034
01:26:43,010 --> 01:26:46,010
about at some time, at some time.

1035
01:26:49,940 --> 01:26:55,100
Mr. Mayor, I would say I think, yeah, though, that is out there for sure.

1036
01:26:55,600 --> 01:27:00,220
I think we need to start the process on recruitment though. We can't lose any time.

1037
01:27:00,680 --> 01:27:02,360
There, this can be a long process.

1038
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:07,400
This city reputationally, et cetera, in our position,

1039
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:14,780
we might find that we need longer than say a traditional city that doesn't have our

1040
01:27:16,300 --> 01:27:24,100
uniqueness. So that would be me, but I think when we get closer, we should have a robust

1041
01:27:24,820 --> 01:27:31,400
conversation about details. I have something to add as well. So I think we should also

1042
01:27:31,400 --> 01:27:37,660
take into consideration, and maybe I miss this, but Mr. McKinsey's term here, how long

1043
01:27:37,660 --> 01:27:43,900
that is, and when we don't have someone. If that is an instance of how much he's offered

1044
01:27:43,900 --> 01:27:49,100
is time. I don't know about that, but that should be a pretty formal consideration for that

1045
01:27:49,100 --> 01:27:55,560
timeline. And with that, I do agree that we need to start now to get going, especially for exploring

1046
01:27:55,560 --> 01:28:01,180
above and beyond the normal range of candidates. I think that takes a little extra time, too,

1047
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:08,120
to get comfortable with whatever new skill sets are being assessed at that point in time.

1048
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:15,080
I don't doubt that we just are now, and I'm excited to work with Mr. Phillips. I just wanted to

1049
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:20,320
bring these things up while we could, but I also want to make the point that I do, I wish Mr.

1050
01:28:20,380 --> 01:28:24,760
McCann would stay with us forever, but I know that that's not true and not possible.

1051
01:28:25,660 --> 01:28:30,500
But I don't know if I think that should be a part of the timeline because I think the bigger

1052
01:28:30,500 --> 01:28:38,400
decision is more important than possibly being without Mr. McCann for and someone else in this

1053
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:42,920
place for too much, I think that we have people who could step up and are training to be

1054
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:51,660
managers who might do that. I think Mr. McKinnon is in it to win it here until we

1055
01:28:51,660 --> 01:28:54,720
get somebody else, but I'll let him speak for himself.

1056
01:28:58,410 --> 01:28:59,150
Maybe I don't know the

1057
01:28:59,150 --> 01:29:02,210
support we're not going to have to fill it for you way in on this. There are obviously a

1058
01:29:02,210 --> 01:29:05,830
lot of moving parts. We don't know a lot right now. We don't really have a lot of

1059
01:29:05,830 --> 01:29:10,990
input. We have competing cities as it gets closer to say a month and a half

1060
01:29:10,990 --> 01:29:19,570
much, from now, we're going to know more about the market for Napa, particularly Stalena,

1061
01:29:20,390 --> 01:29:25,150
in the county, obviously challenging in many ways, but I think it's a good point. I think

1062
01:29:25,150 --> 01:29:31,690
there's all kinds of variables involved. I think, for example, speaking for myself, I understand

1063
01:29:31,690 --> 01:29:36,650
the need for somebody who's going to be working with a city manager to have input. On the other

1064
01:29:36,650 --> 01:29:43,610
And I do offer a fair amount of experience having worked with hate city managers or the life of 18 years.

1065
01:29:43,650 --> 01:29:45,690
Having been involved in all of those processes.

1066
01:29:46,130 --> 01:29:49,490
So there's some experience value there that I could add.

1067
01:29:49,770 --> 01:29:52,950
Want to work through the team and see that.

1068
01:29:52,950 --> 01:29:55,610
I think it is important for folks who are going to be on the city council,

1069
01:29:55,690 --> 01:29:59,870
particularly the next mayor, to be highly comfortable with their.

1070
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:27,080
City manager, because he spent a lot of time, more time that I ever wanted to spend, but I spent a lot of time with the city managers that we've had. So there is given take. I would hate to miss an opportunity because we decided, oh, we're going to wait. If somebody came, it was just really outstanding. And we've already made the commitment, no, we're not going to make that decision. So we're going to have to play it by ear to a certain degree, but keep that in mind for sure and make our best judgment call as the issues arise. I think that's the best case in our effort.

1071
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:48,400
I agree with that. Anything else before I look for motion to approve this contract with the slight changes. I don't even know we need to make an amendment there, but very slight changes are commitment to go outside the box a little bit more.

1072
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:56,160
I would just make a motion to approve the contract with the recommended clarifying changes to the scope.

1073
01:30:56,440 --> 01:30:57,280
All right.

1074
01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:58,840
That's the motion that we're looking for.

1075
01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:00,880
So when it can say it's so moving, we'll get there.

1076
01:31:00,900 --> 01:31:01,960
Did you open public comment?

1077
01:31:02,220 --> 01:31:02,520
I did.

1078
01:31:03,540 --> 01:31:04,100
Miss that.

1079
01:31:05,740 --> 01:31:12,180
I'll make a motion to accept the contract with the modifications that were discussed.

1080
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:15,060
Second.

1081
01:31:16,500 --> 01:31:18,680
Any more discussion from my colleagues?

1082
01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:20,100
Anything else to add, Mr. Phillips?

1083
01:31:21,700 --> 01:31:22,240
I don't think so.

1084
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:25,960
I appreciate your approach to moving forward.

1085
01:31:26,660 --> 01:31:31,920
There's a lot of different ways that we can, as we get closer to the election time

1086
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:38,300
decide how we want to address the different options of working with the current council,

1087
01:31:38,660 --> 01:31:43,840
working with the future council or working with the candidates for council once we know

1088
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:44,340
where those are.

1089
01:31:44,400 --> 01:31:48,160
There's a lot of different ways we can incorporate that moving forward.

1090
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:51,020
All right, thank you for the flexibility there.

1091
01:31:51,020 --> 01:31:51,980
Yeah, absolutely.

1092
01:31:52,940 --> 01:31:54,920
It's probably there's a motion in the second.

1093
01:31:55,120 --> 01:31:56,860
Councillor of America, yes.

1094
01:31:57,380 --> 01:31:58,300
Councillor member Diaz?

1095
01:31:58,460 --> 01:31:58,740
Yes.

1096
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:00,000
Councillor Member Spotorado?

1097
01:32:00,520 --> 01:32:00,660
Yes.

1098
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:01,600
Vice Mayor Dizzy?

1099
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:02,660
Mayor Doing?

1100
01:32:03,060 --> 01:32:03,080
Yes.

1101
01:32:03,500 --> 01:32:12,900
All right. There may be need for some input to Mr. Phillips as we move along.

1102
01:32:13,460 --> 01:32:18,140
We have a subcommittee of two council members that help to make this

1103
01:32:18,140 --> 01:32:23,940
election. It would be helpful if we could rely on those that that subcommittee to be available

1104
01:32:23,940 --> 01:32:28,780
to provide some input to Gary as we move along most of I can, you know, send the initial

1105
01:32:28,780 --> 01:32:33,160
brochure design and some of those things that that will come to council but it's good to have some

1106
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:38,840
initiative. Yeah, I think the subcommittee will continue for the duration. Good Mr. Barrack is looking

1107
01:32:38,840 --> 01:32:41,000
forward to it. He's he's got that look on his.

1108
01:32:44,770 --> 01:32:49,150
You have been you have been so selected. All right,

1109
01:32:49,150 --> 01:32:55,450
where I think I think that is a good idea if anyone has issues on that will make a adjustment.

1110
01:32:55,990 --> 01:32:57,610
But did they ask you any?

1111
01:32:57,610 --> 01:32:59,630
No, I'm going to look forward to working with you all.

1112
01:32:59,650 --> 01:33:00,130
Thank you.

1113
01:33:00,690 --> 01:33:00,810
Bye.

1114
01:33:01,090 --> 01:33:01,650
Thanks everybody.

1115
01:33:03,970 --> 01:33:04,850
All right.

1116
01:33:05,310 --> 01:33:08,410
We're on the item 14 City Council reports.

1117
01:33:09,210 --> 01:33:15,310
Anyone with a need for a burning need for making a report?

1118
01:33:16,590 --> 01:33:23,550
I have a report more in the written form, I think, and BTA is graciously given us some items

1119
01:33:23,550 --> 01:33:27,110
that we can deliver to you digitally, and I have forgotten to do that this week.

1120
01:33:27,230 --> 01:33:31,130
I was distracted with a couple of things last couple of weeks, so I'll make that send that

1121
01:33:31,130 --> 01:33:33,970
out to you all, so you know what's going on at NBTA.

1122
01:33:34,550 --> 01:33:35,790
Anything else from my colleagues?

1123
01:33:35,790 --> 01:33:45,450
Maybe just, since maybe a word on finance committee, upcoming agenda, we're busy and thank

1124
01:33:45,450 --> 01:33:52,690
you, Erica, I feel your pain along with everybody else, I'm trying to find a date for

1125
01:33:52,690 --> 01:33:53,670
the next finance committee.

1126
01:33:53,830 --> 01:34:00,710
We're trying to have it as soon as practicable, where the entire finance committee is

1127
01:34:00,710 --> 01:34:10,210
as long as well as myself, the mayor, and Jim, to discuss the subcommittee, the class

1128
01:34:10,210 --> 01:34:20,390
income subcommittee, draft and our our collective responses to that draft. So that's coming

1129
01:34:20,390 --> 01:34:29,630
and the expectation is after we have dialogue through that process, we should be getting the

1130
01:34:29,630 --> 01:34:31,790
Next up is to get a finance committee report.

1131
01:34:32,270 --> 01:34:32,630
The council.

1132
01:34:34,590 --> 01:34:35,310
All right.

1133
01:34:35,470 --> 01:34:37,390
Thank you for that, Ms. Barrett.

1134
01:34:37,810 --> 01:34:39,690
Looks like we are ready to adjourn.

1135
01:34:40,650 --> 01:34:42,730
Their click, are we ready to adjourn?

1136
01:34:42,830 --> 01:34:43,750
Then this meeting is adjourned.

1137
01:34:43,790 --> 01:34:44,510
Have a good night, everybody.

1138
01:34:44,630 --> 01:34:45,510
Thank you for being here.

1139
01:34:45,710 --> 01:34:47,290
Thank you for your participation.