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good evening good evening well we're

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going to go ahead and get

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the started webex meeting of the saint

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joseph county council

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may 12 2020 now call to order

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uh commission i'm sorry councilman

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krasinski

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are you with us hi

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i'm here councilman nolan

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sir yes sir councilman file

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councilman file

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councilwoman hath here

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councilman tilloyan yes

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councilman here

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councilman root here

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councilman kane ricky

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looks like everyone is here except

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councilman file

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uh next we'll have the pledge of

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allegiance i pledge allegiance to the

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flag

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of the united states of america america

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and to the republic

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from the witcher stands one nation

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under god indivisible with people

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with liberty and justice

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for all thank you may i have a motion to

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approve the minutes

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from the march 10th 2020 public hearing

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second okay all in favor

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opposed the eyes have it

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the minutes from the march 10th public

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meeting are approved next on the agenda

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we have first readings clerk will you

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please read bill number 44-20

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dawn intermitting and supplementing

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title 15 land usage chapter 154 planning

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and zoning the safest

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county code is admitted properly located

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at 50

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935 state road 933 50941

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state road 933 and 50945

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state road 933 from high industrial

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district to see commercial district

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petitioner

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bola shane bill number 44

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20 is assigned to the land use planning

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committee

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foreign 4520 an ordinance amending and

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supplementing title 15 land use

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chapter 154 planning and joining the

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saints as a county code as amended

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the property located at five four two

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eight o'clock from eight

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agriculture district to our single

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family district

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petitioner clinton custom homes bill

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number 4520 is assigned to the land use

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planning committee

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bill 4620

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adopting and admitting it to section

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the saints county code indiana 2013

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human resources policies and benefits

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manual by including language allowing

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continuation of paying for employees

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willing

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but unable to work during their

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reopening period for county work

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facilities

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previously closed to an emergency

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petitioner commissioner

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bill number 4620 is assigned to the

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budget administration committee

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that concludes first readings for this

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evening

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next on the agenda we have salary

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amendments clerk will you please read

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bill number 3920.

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twenty nine twenty an ordinance amending

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ordinance eighty nineteen the same games

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and coordinates establishing salaries

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and fixing the number of employees of

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sanctions county

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leader twenty twenty petitioner

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commissioners

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miss hess community report please mr

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president bill number 39

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favorable recommendation thank you very

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much petitioner

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president morton yes and this is

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commissioner castelni

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um head before you an

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ordinance

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can you remind me what the heck the

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ordinance is i'm having a tough time

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pulling up my

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agenda salary amendment

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look mike go ahead mike uh uh this is

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human resources director um

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so it's a it's not even correct anything

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wrong but it's a

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it's for the uh it's a proposed shower

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increase it looks like

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yeah because but kim was not able to use

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certain top time because her duties at

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the county

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yes that my apologies yes she was unable

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use given in light of all the code of 19

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related activities she's been doing that

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was not prudent and she did not feel

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comfortable taking

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time away so this is being able to

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compensate her for her

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um unused vacation time for paid time

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it's not an additional appropriation and

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she found the money within her budget so

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it's just

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take care of that there's no additional

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any questions from council

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i open a public hearing on 39 20. does

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anyone wish to speak

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in favor of this bill i think councilman

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tilloyan had a question

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i didn't hear him speak up sir

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thank you i have in my notes that bill

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3920 was for a safety risk manager

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oh no that's 40 20.

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yeah that's not just that's 41 mark

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that's one coming up

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yes that's the next one

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thank you always one step ahead aren't

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i just didn't get the audio on the phone

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again but i just

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woke up any other questions on 39.20

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hearing none does anyone wish to wish to

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speak in favor of this bill

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does anyone wish to speak in opposition

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of the bill

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here right now i'll close the public

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it looks like you are uh

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do i hear a motion

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do i hear a second

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this bill

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who is this kelly's even

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who i heard

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please please please state your name for

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the record

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carol kelly heavens 12 o'clock

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timberline trace north and granger all

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i'm clearly going to make the same

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general comment

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for most of the salary bills

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i think we all need a little

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help to get through the the thing

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the shutdown but i think we have to be

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very careful

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not using a lot of taxpayer funds right

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especially for people that are not

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working because the taxpayers aren't

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either and they're going to have trouble

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coming up with these funds

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look twice at each of these items and

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even if

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the money is still in the budget that

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it didn't get spent on what it was

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originally intended to be spent on

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and we have to be really careful

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um not not creating a whole host of

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expenditures here that are just going to

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put our county in

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a bad position that the taxpayers are

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then going to have

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real trouble um

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doing anything helpless because they're

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in a bad position too

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so that that's my my general congress

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thank you thank you very much

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mr morgan

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yeah i saw a message on my screen that

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jamie i believe it was jamie jay o'brien

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wanted to know how to join the

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conversation speak for or against the

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bill

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is jay o'brien out there listening

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because i saw a message come up

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yes i am can you hear me yes

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right i didn't want to just speak out

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and speak over other people so i typed a

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message

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asking how to raise my hand but i i

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wanted to

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also consistent with what ms haven said

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um we everyone is

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having tight financial times now and if

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there's unspent money in budgets

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i would suggest that the money not be

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spent so i would also speak against

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the particular bill and thank you uh jamie can you hear me

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yes i can okay did you did you hear me

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when i asked for it

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if anyone wanted to speak against the

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bill did you hear me when i said that

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i did and i was raising my hand i didn't

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want to speak over you so that's why i

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typed in the chat

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i asked do we just speak out i don't

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want to talk over other people oh yeah

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yo

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go ahead speak out when i ask that

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question go ahead speak out and we'll

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figure it out

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but thank you for your comments okay and

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thank you i'm trying to

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i know it's difficult with lots of

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people trying to speak so i wanted to

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avoid

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speaking over other people so thank you

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i appreciate that

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very very courteous thank you is there

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anyone else that would like to speak

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in opposition of this bill

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here and on with hearing and i'll close

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the public hearing on 39 20.

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i believe i had a uh a motion

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by miss hess to pass the bill is there a

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second second by mr nolan

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any further comments from any council

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member in regards to 3920

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hearing none clerk will you please take

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the role

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mr krasinski yes

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mr nolan yeah excuse me yes

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miss half yes

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mr toys no

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tan's right yes ocean carry 7-1

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thank you uh if i was still on the

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council

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mr file we we took roll and i asked for

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your i asked for you

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to speak up and let me know you were

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here not once but twice

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well you know i'm not as good as

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i'm here

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thank you i i didn't mean it like that

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sir i just when you said are you still

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on the council

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i'm just letting you know from a

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business perspective i did acknowledge

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you not once but twice i was not trying

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to not acknowledge you sir okay

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comments accepted let's move thank you let's move on

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clerk will you please read the next bill number 40 20.

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known as amending ordinance 80 19 the

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same thing in order that's establishing

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salaries and fixing the numbers

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employees of saints just attended here

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2020

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official auditor andy this is the bill

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for uh human resources to uh increase

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the

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salaries of 40 to 50 for that budgeted

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position

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kim do you want to give the background

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of why this is necessary

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hold on hold on hold on andy hold on hold on

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okay let me back up enough for the

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record 39 20 was passed by a vote of

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eight to one and i need to commit a

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report

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from miss hess on 40 20.

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okay mr president bill number 40 20 came

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to the full council without

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recommendation

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thank you very much okay

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mr mr castellny

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after ken do you want to start us off

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and i'll

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finish it okay

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kim karkowicz human resource director st

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joseph county

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offices at 227 west jefferson

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7th floor this is a position that was

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budgeted for 2020

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for the county to have a centralized

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safety

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program and a safety risk manager to

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implement that the budget was approved

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i have been interviewing since the

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beginning of the year

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diligently finding the proper candidate

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for the county and all of the entities

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that we have

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and the needs that we would have i have

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found a candidate that would

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fit and would be able to actually exceed

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what we are needing to do especially in

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this time

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where we have safety as a big priority

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here within the county as the employees

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are returning to work along with

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the public coming into our buildings

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it is a position that was budgeted there

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is no

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additional money needed for this year

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for this position

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this is commissioner andy felning

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officer on the seventh floor of the

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county city building

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i will also add that the reason why

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there's nothing added for

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the year 2020 because the amount was

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budgeted but yet

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filled so the remaining amount in there

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would cover for this year and then

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moving forward

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2021 beyond one of the the things that

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we

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also identify from a safety standpoint

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is we would need to do trainings

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for our employees and different

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department heads and other things

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and this individual if hired would be

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able to do those things if you would not

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have to outsource that piece or

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pay a third party to do so so it would

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actually at the

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minimum it would be a

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state revenue neutral moving forward and

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it could possibly

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be i'm sorry budget savings as well

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answer any question any questions from

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council

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from foreign

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you have for this position do they have

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a background in

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or industrial hygiene or what is their

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background is actually in

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municipalities

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and has over 10 years

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this person is taking quite a bit of a

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cut in salary from where they're going

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to start off as a new venture so

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the the project was something that would

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move them

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to make that move we just needed a

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little bit more

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to meet in the middle

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understood so they don't necessarily

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have any the same experience

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with safety programs or implementation

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of safety strategies they have implemented

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a whole safety program for another

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municipality

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that had the same needs that we have

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in our highway and you know other

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avenues that we have here

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that that we need to have done

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okay all right thank you

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any other questions from council

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yes mr morton is mr nolan mr nolan

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um either kim or mr costellny

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can you expand a little bit on the

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training that this person would be able

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to provide

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so the osha requirements for training

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this person is a certified trainer for

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osha

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which we would need to get our county

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employees trained

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in either the 10 hour or 30 hour session

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that is just one of the major trainings

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that need to be completed

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and given the price point that we were

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looking to hire it's difficult to find

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someone

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that has that level of expertise to

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provide the training so what was

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originally identified is to try and keep

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the salary amount lower

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was to allow um we would just outsource

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that particular piece of this if we can

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find someone for that amount of money

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that's why we anticipated being an

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actual revenue

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at least neutral if not a savings

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i understand that's kind of what i was

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asking what those

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other than osha 10 or and or osha 30 are

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there other

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training classes that this person is

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currently

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capable of providing i'm just trying to

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get my head wrapped around

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what that savings would be and not hire

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the trainer active shooter is something

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that they

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have implemented in the past for

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multiple locations

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which is something that we still need to

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do here at the county also

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okay

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any other questions from council

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hearing none will not open the public

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hearing on bill 4020.

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does anyone wish to speak in favor of

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this bill

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does anyone wish to speak in opposition

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of the bill

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hearing none i'll close the public

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hearing on bill 40 20.

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do i hear a motion

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mr morgan pastor nolan

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i would uh i got one comment that i'd

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like to make a motion if there

437
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just real quick math here i don't know

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how many exactly how many employees

439
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would need

440
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osha 30 but at 200 employees that's 30

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grand

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so it would be a significant savings so

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over and above what this is causing so i

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make a motion in favor

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do i hear a second second marcus android

446
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motion to pass bill number 4020 was met

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by councilman nolan it was seconded by

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councilman

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katanza any further comments from

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council on forty twenty

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hearing now click please please take the

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roll

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mr nolan yes fire

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hi yes

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what is it no

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um

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yes

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but the record show that bill number

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40-20 was passed by a vote of eight to

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one

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clerk will you please read the next bill number forty two twenty

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in order to many ordinance 8019 the same

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day and ordinance establishing salaries

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and fixing the number of employees of

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saints this economy of the year 2020

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petitioner probate court jdc

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mr kaczynski committee report please

468
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just come to the council with a

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favorable recommendation

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thank you petitioner hello it's cheryl

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rush

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uh controller at the saint joseph

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probate court 1000 south michigan

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we're asking for a salary amendment for

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probation officer 4

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from 72 40 439 to 66

477
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and then we're asking for two probation

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officers to go from 73 989 to

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79 886 so there is no change to the

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budget they're both state mandated

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so one is less than one's moving up

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any questions from council

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three number we hope i'll open a public

484
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hearing on 4220 does anyone wish to

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speak in favor of this bill

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is there anyone who wishes to speak in

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opposition to the bill

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[Music]

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hearing now now close the public hearing

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on 4220 do i hear motion

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function for proof

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bobby k made the motion diana did you

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second it

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i'll second it all right all right thank

495
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you there was a motion to pass bill

496
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number 4220

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made by councilman krazynski it was

498
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seconded by councilwoman hass any

499
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further comments from any council member

500
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on 4220

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hearing another clerk would you please

502
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take the role

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mr file

504
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yes thank you

505
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sorry mr katan's right

506
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yes just counteracting

507
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yes motion care is nine to zero

508
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thank you let the record show that bill

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number 42-20 let's pass by a vote of

510
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nine to zero

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clerk will you please read the next bill number 29 20.

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ordinance of many ordinance 8019 the

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same being an audience establishing

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salaries

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fixing the number of employees of

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sanchez accounting for the year 2020

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petitioner adult probation

518
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mr kuczynski committee report please sir

519
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mr president this comes to the council

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with a favorable recommendation

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thank you very much petitioner

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good evening jesse carlton chief

523
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probation officer with the saint joseph

524
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county adult probation department

525
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office is located on the fourth floor of

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the county city building

527
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i come before you today we are changing

528
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our executive staff structure

529
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and as a result of that additional

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responsibilities and duties have been

531
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placed on our assistant chief

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judge broden has approved the request to

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increase her salary by twenty five

534
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uh hundred dollars as a result of these

535
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additional duties retroactive to january

536
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first

537
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no additional funds are required to

538
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accommodate this request

539
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as we've hired a po with a lesser salary

540
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and a different line item

541
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so no additional funds are needed right

542
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now as there's a

543
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surplus in that account

544
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any questions from council

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hearing none open a public hearing on

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bill number 29 20.

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does anyone wish to speak in favor of

548
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,590
this bill

549
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,200
does anyone wish to speak in opposition

550
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,990
to the bill

551
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,360
what is it what is the total cost of

552
00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:15,440
this

553
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i mean i you say you have appropriated

554
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money for it but what is the cost of it

555
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mr carlton i didn't hear the question mr

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morton

557
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he said councilman feil said what is the

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cost

559
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of this appropriation uh 2500

560
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we are moving it from um since our

561
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salaries are mandated by the state we

562
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hired someone in a different account

563
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that has less years of experience so

564
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that way there's a surplus

565
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and as a result of shifting those

566
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additional duties

567
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because we've taken one executive

568
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position away and just made it a line

569
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officer

570
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those funds are going to um going over

571
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to her salary as a result of those

572
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additional duties

573
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,799
yeah okay appreciate that you know it's

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another 500

575
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items so it's not it's not like some of

576
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the other

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much higher cost items we might want to

578
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be considering

579
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right so fine

580
00:26:15,279 --> 00:26:23,029
any other questions

581
00:26:23,039 --> 00:26:25,279
here and then do we have do we have a

582
00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:29,830
motion on 2920

583
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:38,320
motion for passage second motion to pass bill 2920 was made

584
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:39,600
by councilman katanza wright it was

585
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,360
seconded by councilwoman s

586
00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:43,120
any further comments from any council

587
00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:46,710
member on 2920

588
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:47,919
here we know clerk can you please take

589
00:26:47,919 --> 00:26:49,460
the role

590
00:26:49,460 --> 00:26:51,679
[Applause]

591
00:26:51,679 --> 00:26:56,320
yes to tomorrow

592
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,510
no

593
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,750
tan's right yes

594
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,880
is that a no mark yes no it was a yes

595
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,720
i'm so sorry so yes i'm having a hard

596
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,120
time here

597
00:27:13,120 --> 00:27:27,960
uh mr canary yes

598
00:27:27,970 --> 00:27:30,480
[Applause]

599
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,420
yes

600
00:27:33,430 --> 00:27:33,550
[Music]

601
00:27:33,550 --> 00:27:44,470
[Applause]

602
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,679
thank you let the record show that bill

603
00:27:45,679 --> 00:27:48,000
number 2920 was passed by a vote of

604
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,830
eight to one

605
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:56,320
clerk will you please read the next bill number 2820

606
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,559
according to many mornings any 19 the

607
00:27:58,559 --> 00:28:00,840
same thing in order that's establishing

608
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:02,159
salaries the number of employees

609
00:28:02,159 --> 00:28:03,760
essentially this kind of year 2020

610
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:04,960
petitioners

611
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,190
honor and commissioners

612
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,080
miss fast committee before please uh mr

613
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,080
president bill number 2820 comes with a

614
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:15,760
full council with a favorite

615
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:27,909
favorable recommendation

616
00:28:27,919 --> 00:28:31,760
okay petitioner

617
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,360
president morgan this is danny costello

618
00:28:33,360 --> 00:28:35,440
again officers remaining on the seventh

619
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,279
floor of the county city building

620
00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:41,279
um if you recall this is part of the erp

621
00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:44,480
and bree roberts um and

622
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,679
um john butler

623
00:28:47,679 --> 00:28:52,240
were have been part of the uh

624
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,600
i don't have it part of the

625
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,279
implementation piece

626
00:28:55,279 --> 00:28:58,559
and the expectation initially with erp

627
00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:00,720
so we were going to hire program manager

628
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,399
an implementation manager who would kind

629
00:29:02,399 --> 00:29:03,760
of take on those paths and those

630
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:04,799
functions

631
00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:06,480
and as a result we decided to go in a

632
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,840
different direction

633
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,279
so as a result bree

634
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:14,000
and other employees have taken on their

635
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:15,440
kind of outside their normal

636
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,919
job responsibilities so we are looking

637
00:29:17,919 --> 00:29:19,679
to compensate them for additional time

638
00:29:19,679 --> 00:29:21,679
because they're working

639
00:29:21,679 --> 00:29:23,440
over and above the number of hours that

640
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,520
they have to work on a regular basis

641
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,520
taking care of these tasks

642
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,919
and i'm into still an overall cost

643
00:29:29,919 --> 00:29:31,360
savings from an implementation

644
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:32,320
standpoint

645
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:38,830
then paying one or two salaries people

646
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,559
just

647
00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:43,360
any questions from council yeah uh

648
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,480
councilman style

649
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,600
um i thought that i thought that we

650
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,279
already voted on this i thought that

651
00:29:49,279 --> 00:29:51,360
this increase for brie was already a

652
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,200
matter on the table and that was voted

653
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:54,000
yes

654
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,200
is that wrong i believe

655
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,039
it was it came out of committee i

656
00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:00,799
believe we discussed it at city

657
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:02,960
and it received a favor a favorable

658
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,240
recommendation

659
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,440
but i believe this is the fourth action

660
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,799
okay yeah that's correct okay it was

661
00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:11,120
just

662
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:12,799
i guess what the answer is it was

663
00:30:12,799 --> 00:30:14,399
discussed but not voted on by the

664
00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:15,840
council

665
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,080
because it seems like we didn't post it

666
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:19,840
yep but by the full council correct it

667
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,360
was just voted on by that particular

668
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,640
committee

669
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,830
yeah okay thanks

670
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:31,990
any other questions from council

671
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:33,679
hearing on offer the public hearing on

672
00:30:33,679 --> 00:30:35,279
bill 2820

673
00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:36,720
does anyone wish to speak in favor of

674
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:38,559
this bill

675
00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:40,480
does anyone wish to speak in opposition

676
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,470
to the bill

677
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:45,679
hearing none i'll close the public

678
00:30:45,679 --> 00:30:53,269
hearing on 28 20 do i hear a motion

679
00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:56,320
i'd like to make a motion that it uh

680
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,760
actually starts april 1

681
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,760
this year i'm gonna go back to uh

682
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,679
january 1. been prorated for this amount

683
00:31:07,679 --> 00:31:09,760
for the rest of this year

684
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,159
and we'll discuss i would certainly

685
00:31:12,159 --> 00:31:13,919
assume that if this passes that we would

686
00:31:13,919 --> 00:31:15,600
do it next year but we'll discuss that

687
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,799
at budget time

688
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:21,840
there's a motion on the floor to uh

689
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,960
pass with stipulation of starting april

690
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,240
one

691
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,360
and then uh if it does pass look into

692
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:30,159
next year's

693
00:31:30,159 --> 00:31:31,840
at budget time do i hear seconds of that

694
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,360
motion

695
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:38,480
second one second who said second first

696
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,519
bobby bobby okay motion

697
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:43,200
capacitor number twenty eight twenty was

698
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:44,399
married by councilman nolan it was

699
00:31:44,399 --> 00:31:45,200
seconded by

700
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,320
councilman krazinski any further

701
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,679
comments from council

702
00:31:49,679 --> 00:31:53,360
on 2820 i have a question mr morgan

703
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,440
marcus just to clarify

704
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,200
mr nolan's motion was to begin this

705
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,240
pay structure at april one versus going

706
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,480
all the way back to january so

707
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,840
not the full amount um what they asked

708
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:10,240
him was

709
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,840
with a 10 000 or 7500 they were asking

710
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,640
for

711
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,519
it was ten thousand correct yes so that

712
00:32:17,519 --> 00:32:19,200
so it wouldn't necessarily be a full ten

713
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,240
thousand it would be

714
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,559
one quarter essentially one quarter or

715
00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:23,679
less than what they're asking

716
00:32:23,679 --> 00:32:26,799
am i correct correct

717
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:30,000
okay that was my intent actually this is

718
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,440
it's actually not 10 000 for her

719
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:37,120
to push the salary from 43

720
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,399
693 to 50 so not 10 000 for her the

721
00:32:40,399 --> 00:32:41,279
other

722
00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:44,240
four thousand is for i'm assuming it's

723
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:45,600
ryan

724
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,880
he's up there is that correct

725
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,039
that would be underlying and then taxes

726
00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:53,200
and then perf

727
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,640
so i thought i thought mr costelli

728
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,399
mentioned down carlson

729
00:32:58,399 --> 00:33:01,200
yeah i i mentioned john butler but i

730
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:02,240
misspoke

731
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:06,559
or john i'm sorry john butler is already

732
00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:08,000
at this

733
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,000
that's where his salaries my project

734
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:13,840
manager's assisting he's working degree

735
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,559
so he hit his uh salary is not being

736
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:18,799
amended at all

737
00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:21,120
my issue with degree in these folks is

738
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,480
they've been doing this since

739
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:23,840
i think the reason they put it the

740
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,360
commissioners had to go back to january

741
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:26,480
first

742
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,880
andy jump in if you can or john murphy

743
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:29,519
that

744
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:32,159
um you guys have been john you've been

745
00:33:32,159 --> 00:33:33,840
dealing with it more than i have

746
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,279
that they have been working since

747
00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:39,990
january on this

748
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,840
well i know it's going pretty hot and

749
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,519
heavy right now we're getting the chart

750
00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:44,399
of accounts all

751
00:33:44,399 --> 00:33:46,640
set up and we just had a meeting today

752
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,120
on the general ledger with bree

753
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,159
myself and katie in our office

754
00:33:52,159 --> 00:33:53,600
so they're putting a lot of work on it i

755
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,159
don't remember exactly when they started

756
00:33:56,159 --> 00:33:56,720
but

757
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,630
they're certainly working hard on it now

758
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,480
it was early in the year and i mean

759
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,840
that's kind of the point is i understand

760
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:05,200
that it's

761
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,320
now is they're doing a lot i mean i

762
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,159
think the thought process that wasn't really

763
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:13,040
full bore

764
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,200
january 1 a compromise to get

765
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,240
something because i think they're

766
00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:20,320
absolutely going to be working harder

767
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:21,520
doing extra duties for the rest of this

768
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:22,159
year and

769
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:23,839
i fully expect that to be next year as

770
00:34:23,839 --> 00:34:31,909
well

771
00:34:31,919 --> 00:34:35,040
any other comments from council

772
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,679
are we going to discover uh discuss on

773
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:39,520
the amended resolution or how do we

774
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:40,480
handle

775
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,919
mr nolan's input

776
00:34:43,919 --> 00:34:46,960
his motion his motion was basically to

777
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:48,079
start it april 1.

778
00:34:48,079 --> 00:34:50,879
so that's the motion on the floor the

779
00:34:50,879 --> 00:34:52,960
one that's on the floor is april 1.

780
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,480
right the motion in a second on the

781
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,560
floor is to start april 1.

782
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,839
okay understand thank you any other

783
00:34:59,839 --> 00:35:00,640
comments

784
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,160
from council hearing that collectively

785
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:20,550
please take the role

786
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,870
mr tripple

787
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,320
yes does that by by corey by corey

788
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,240
changing that to starter april 1

789
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:31,760
is that considered an amendment or is

790
00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,440
that just a motion on the floor

791
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,440
i he's fine you're fine to move forward

792
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,150
with the vote

793
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,599
okay i just want to make sure yes sir

794
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:46,079
thank you very much chloe will you

795
00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:51,190
please take the role

796
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,630
no

797
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,800
is potatoes right yes

798
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,880
it's kind of rusty yeah

799
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:08,470
what yes

800
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:13,440
it's kazinsky yes

801
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,800
no one yes

802
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:24,829
the file is

803
00:36:24,839 --> 00:36:27,990
yes

804
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,670
um mr morton

805
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:34,880
yes nine

806
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:47,990
zero no no it's eight to one

807
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,160
all right mark you got to speak up a tad

808
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,160
more man my hearing aid ain't working

809
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,000
too good

810
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,680
eight to one my bad thank you

811
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,040
let the record show that bill number

812
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:00,960
2820 was passed by a vote of eight to

813
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:01,520
one

814
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,119
clerk will you please read please read

815
00:37:03,119 --> 00:37:06,829
the next bill bill number thirty eight

816
00:37:06,839 --> 00:37:08,320
twenty

817
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,160
an ordinance amending warnings 80 19 the

818
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,680
same dating morning's establishing

819
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:12,720
salaries

820
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:14,240
and fixing the number of employees

821
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:15,680
anxious account of the year 2020

822
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:16,560
petitioner

823
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,760
probate court jjc

824
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,520
mr kurzynski committee report please sir

825
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:24,800
president morton this comes to the

826
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,280
council with a favorable recommendation

827
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,640
thank you very much petitioner

828
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,440
hi cheryl rush controller at uh st

829
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,160
joseph probate court 1000 south michigan

830
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,079
we're requesting a salary amendment for

831
00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:41,200
the court administrator from 56 775

832
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,520
to 60 975. it's completely grant funded

833
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,680
and will only be for the duration of the

834
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,720
grant which is december 31st

835
00:37:50,720 --> 00:37:55,750
any questions from council

836
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,040
hearing none we'll open a public hearing

837
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,280
on bill 3820 does anyone wish to speak

838
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,599
in favor of this bill

839
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:03,119
does anyone wish to speak in opposition

840
00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:05,680
to the bill

841
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,440
aaron i'll close the public hearing on

842
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,960
38 20.

843
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:19,599
do i hear a motion for passage you'll hear a second motion to pass bill number 3820

844
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:21,119
was made by councilman catandrite it was

845
00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:22,000
seconded by

846
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,560
councilman krasinski any further

847
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:25,280
comments

848
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:32,000
from council on 3820

849
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,440
here right now quickly please take the

850
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,069
raw

851
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:41,270
katana's right

852
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:59,510
it's kind of wrecking

853
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:03,510
mr file hi

854
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,200
mrs hess yes

855
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,750
mr tawoya yes

856
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:18,720
the yes yes thank you let the record show that

857
00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:20,720
bill number 3820 was passed by a vote of

858
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:22,320
nine to zero

859
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:30,400
clerk will you please read the next bill number 4120 3120

860
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,200
ignorance amending ordinates 80 19 the

861
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,880
same being orders establishing salaries

862
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,240
and fixing the number of employees of

863
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:40,829
sanctions kind of year 2020 petitioner

864
00:39:40,839 --> 00:39:42,240
prosecutor

865
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:44,000
mr kaczynski commit committee report

866
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,520
please

867
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:46,960
president morton just comes with a

868
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,880
favorable recommendation thank you very

869
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:54,829
much sir

870
00:39:54,839 --> 00:39:58,790
petitioner

871
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:02,390
mr ryzen hoover

872
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,870
can you hear me now yeah

873
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:11,200
is it on unmuted

874
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,359
okay yeah this is a request to

875
00:40:13,359 --> 00:40:14,560
appropriate the

876
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,000
aps grant for next year in amount of

877
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,240
nine four hundred and two thousand o

878
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:21,599
ninety five

879
00:40:21,599 --> 00:40:23,440
it's for the salaries for the

880
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,040
investigator and

881
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,400
for the uh director the uh

882
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,800
we're a hub county we're covering saint

883
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:31,760
joe elkhart

884
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,520
marshall and casiato and as we speak

885
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,880
they're still going out with the virus

886
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:43,359
rampant they've had 455 cases

887
00:40:43,359 --> 00:40:45,520
in those four counties and sorry to say

888
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,480
there's been 54 deaths

889
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,640
this does not provide any increases for

890
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,160
the investigators

891
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,920
the aps people kept the grant amount as

892
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:56,960
the same so

893
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,359
we didn't provide any income but it's

894
00:40:59,359 --> 00:41:01,200
for

895
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,839
next year starting july and it's 402

896
00:41:04,839 --> 00:41:07,990
000.95

897
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,760
any questions from council for mr

898
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:14,470
risenhoover

899
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,880
your i think as i understand it's far

900
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,440
2000 to do something we've been doing

901
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,079
and it's not an increase in pay no it's

902
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:25,520
not an increase in pay for any of them

903
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:26,240
yeah and

904
00:41:26,240 --> 00:41:28,960
we have to decide uh a budget for next

905
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:29,280
year

906
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,560
this early this year this is a fiscal

907
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,119
grant

908
00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:36,960
it starts uh july first of each year

909
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:42,400
so it starts this july first yes this is a renewal of the existing grant

910
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,720
that will be effective july 1st

911
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:48,160
yeah 7 120 yes

912
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:53,430
okay

913
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,119
any other questions from council for mr

914
00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:59,829
risenhoover

915
00:41:59,839 --> 00:42:00,880
hearing none will open the public

916
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,960
hearing on bill 4120 does anyone wish to

917
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:03,440
speak

918
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,480
in favor of this bill

919
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,079
does anyone wish to speak in opposition

920
00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:11,030
of the bill

921
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,400
hearing none we'll close the public

922
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,240
hearing on 4120

923
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:18,760
may i have a motion on the bill

924
00:42:18,770 --> 00:42:24,950
[Music]

925
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,520
a motion to pass bill number 4120 was

926
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:28,160
made by

927
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,560
councilwoman hess and the second was

928
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:35,670
made by like five different people

929
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,910
who spoke up first on that second

930
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:45,440
part i don't care

931
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,720
our second was made by councilman

932
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:49,119
contanzarite

933
00:42:49,119 --> 00:42:52,960
third by mr nolan fourth by mr kuzinski

934
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,720
any further comments from any council

935
00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:58,480
member on 4120

936
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:01,520
here or not quickly please take the roll

937
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:07,910
mr pierre

938
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:13,440
mr can i ricky yes

939
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,880
you hear me yes oh i hear you

940
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,920
i'm clear there uh mr root yes now

941
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,319
up to mr krasinski yes

942
00:43:24,319 --> 00:43:28,240
what's going on yes

943
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:33,430
mr file hi

944
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,349
jeff yes

945
00:43:37,359 --> 00:43:42,150
natalia yes

946
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:46,240
it's the tens right yes

947
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:49,359
it's more yes

948
00:43:49,359 --> 00:43:51,839
motion carries zero let the record show

949
00:43:51,839 --> 00:43:53,839
that bill number 4120 was passed by vote

950
00:43:53,839 --> 00:43:55,040
of nine to zero

951
00:43:55,040 --> 00:44:01,839
clerk can you please read the next bill number forty three twenty an ordinance of the

952
00:44:01,839 --> 00:44:04,240
saints county council amending ordinance

953
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:05,680
eighty nineteen twenty twenty seller

954
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,359
areas for appointed officers employees

955
00:44:07,359 --> 00:44:09,599
for all departments of the county

956
00:44:09,599 --> 00:44:11,760
providing a coving 19 hazard pay

957
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,359
increase to the county police department

958
00:44:13,359 --> 00:44:14,880
essential employees we have continued to

959
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,560
provide law enforcement services to our

960
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,800
residents while increasing their risk

961
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:24,309
contracting the virus petitioner sure

962
00:44:24,319 --> 00:44:27,920
mr kuznetsky committee report please

963
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:29,760
i'm sorry president morton i don't have

964
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:32,160
anything with a recommendation on this

965
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:37,910
bill

966
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,640
it came without recommendation okay all

967
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:45,200
right thank you petitioner

968
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,760
uh sheriff william redmond offices at

969
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,160
saint joe county jail 401 west sample

970
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:50,560
street

971
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,960
south bend i'm requesting that each of

972
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:54,880
our merit officers corrections officers

973
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,520
and medical staff be getting a 15

974
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,440
hazard pay increase for their dedication

975
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,119
and commitment on keeping our community

976
00:45:01,119 --> 00:45:02,720
safe while subjecting themselves and

977
00:45:02,720 --> 00:45:04,240
their families to an

978
00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:06,640
increased risk during covet 19 while

979
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,560
serving our community

980
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,800
our staff must go hands-on with people

981
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:12,880
daily from conducting safety pat downs

982
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,960
of individuals to transporting

983
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:16,800
people in our vehicles to performing

984
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,040
medical examinations at the jail

985
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,359
as well as entering homes and businesses

986
00:45:21,359 --> 00:45:23,359
not knowing what's behind those exterior

987
00:45:23,359 --> 00:45:24,480
walls

988
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,319
since the beginning of this pandemic we

989
00:45:26,319 --> 00:45:28,000
have had

990
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,520
62 employees quarantined that is up from

991
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,280
35

992
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,720
that i reported two weeks ago

993
00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:38,079
they have been quarantined at their

994
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:40,400
homes along with their family members

995
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,920
our nursing staff has treated 65

996
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:47,280
inmates that is up from 41 from two

997
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,000
weeks ago

998
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:51,119
with covert 19 symptoms and according to

999
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:52,720
the national fop

1000
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:55,440
there have been 101 police officer

1001
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,240
deaths attributed to covet 19

1002
00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:01,680
and that is up from 77 as i reported to

1003
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:02,160
you all

1004
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,520
two weeks ago uh with the weather

1005
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,240
and the weather getting nicer stay at

1006
00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:10,800
home orders being listed

1007
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,440
we are seeing a increase in jail

1008
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,119
bookings

1009
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:17,680
which we anticipate will continue uh

1010
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:18,960
which will then

1011
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,920
cause more isolations of inmates in our

1012
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:22,960
facility

1013
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,040
putting our officers and our corrections

1014
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,040
staff at risk

1015
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,400
we will have to continue as you all know

1016
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,359
we had our first

1017
00:46:31,359 --> 00:46:34,960
positive covid uh 19 uh

1018
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,119
inmate last week who was transfer

1019
00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:38,400
transported

1020
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,280
due to court order from uh westville

1021
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,920
correctional facility to our facility

1022
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:47,119
we anticipate more court orders which

1023
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:48,640
will continue

1024
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,280
we will have to transport other

1025
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:53,359
individuals from other facilities

1026
00:46:53,359 --> 00:46:55,920
here to our facility which again

1027
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,030
increases our

1028
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:03,990
risks for all of our staff

1029
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:08,829
any questions from council for the

1030
00:47:08,839 --> 00:47:10,960
sheriff

1031
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,040
hearing none i'll open the public

1032
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,280
hearing on bill 4320

1033
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,119
does anyone wish to speak in favor of

1034
00:47:17,119 --> 00:47:22,870
this bill

1035
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,480
does anyone wish to speak in opposition

1036
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,240
to the bill

1037
00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:30,880
i do mr morton jamie o'brien

1038
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:33,599
great sir name and address please put a

1039
00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:35,359
record

1040
00:47:35,359 --> 00:47:38,559
in 1582 cedar ridge court

1041
00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:43,440
granger indiana that's the uh

1042
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,359
good deputies and other employees of the

1043
00:47:45,359 --> 00:47:47,359
sheriff's department

1044
00:47:47,359 --> 00:47:50,839
our experiential traditional rift

1045
00:47:50,839 --> 00:47:52,360
sammy

1046
00:47:52,360 --> 00:48:26,150
[Music]

1047
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:34,800
move ahead

1048
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,240
is there anyone else who wishes to speak

1049
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:42,390
in opposition to this bill

1050
00:48:42,400 --> 00:49:00,829
name an address for the record

1051
00:49:00,839 --> 00:49:02,960
um i have a great appreciation for

1052
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:04,160
sheriff redna

1053
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,839
and for all of his officers and staff

1054
00:49:07,839 --> 00:49:10,079
really appreciate the officers up here

1055
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:11,599
in granger

1056
00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:17,280
um if this is an issue of fairness

1057
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,839
we're all dealing with the extra hazards

1058
00:49:19,839 --> 00:49:21,200
or the covered liars

1059
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,480
right now um

1060
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,280
these officers face greater hazards than

1061
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,800
i ever face

1062
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,760
knowing that they walk into potentially

1063
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,800
a loaded gun behind the door

1064
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,920
i think they they are already receiving

1065
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,400
hazard pay in their salary

1066
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,240
meanwhile all of us that worry about

1067
00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:50,000
um exposure to the virus

1068
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,920
which i think in the end we're going to

1069
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:55,200
find this a lot less severe than

1070
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,240
all of the heights but

1071
00:49:58,240 --> 00:50:01,680
at any rate um

1072
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,559
all of us face that hazard and we're not

1073
00:50:04,559 --> 00:50:08,079
getting the increase in pay

1074
00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:10,800
all of the delivery people that keep

1075
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,000
bringing stuff to our

1076
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,319
doors and and people who bring stuff to

1077
00:50:14,319 --> 00:50:15,200
the

1078
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,240
supermarkets and people working in all

1079
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:20,240
of these places

1080
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:22,400
are not getting any hazard pay as a

1081
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:23,359
matter of fact

1082
00:50:23,359 --> 00:50:24,960
they're lucky if they're getting their

1083
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,280
usual pay

1084
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,440
they just don't have the advantage of

1085
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,720
somebody else's money that that can be

1086
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:35,119
put

1087
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:38,000
toward giving young extra money and of

1088
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,160
course government always has

1089
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:44,319
access to the taxpayers money

1090
00:50:44,319 --> 00:50:47,200
so in in the interest of fairness i

1091
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,200
don't think we should be giving

1092
00:50:49,200 --> 00:51:02,549
any

1093
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:06,640
thank you thank you very much

1094
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:07,920
is there anyone else that wishes to

1095
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:11,760
speak in opposition of bill 4320

1096
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,359
yes sir versus mike cannon i have a i

1097
00:51:15,359 --> 00:51:17,839
just have a clarification in terms of

1098
00:51:17,839 --> 00:51:20,640
what you all are voting on

1099
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,040
are you voting at the fifteen percent

1100
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,119
increase or ten percent or five or a

1101
00:51:25,119 --> 00:51:26,480
bonus can you

1102
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:33,510
clarify that for me

1103
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,000
we haven't had a motion yet the bill

1104
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,400
before us is 15

1105
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,230
there is no motion here

1106
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:43,680
is there anyone i wish anyone else that

1107
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,720
wishes to speak in opposition to 4320

1108
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:49,359
mr file first first has to do with

1109
00:51:49,359 --> 00:51:50,160
procedure

1110
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,680
um i thought the council met on this and

1111
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,079
i thought the council sent this to

1112
00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:59,359
committee without recommendation

1113
00:51:59,359 --> 00:52:06,950
i thought then we did i thought

1114
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:08,960
it was it was sent to the full council

1115
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:10,720
without a recommendation

1116
00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:13,760
and now it's up for a vote with

1117
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,280
amongst the full council but i thought

1118
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,880
it went back to a committee uh could have been the

1119
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:21,359
budget

1120
00:52:21,359 --> 00:52:25,119
no no no well i thought we did we

1121
00:52:25,119 --> 00:52:26,480
definitely said

1122
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,520
something without recommendation

1123
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,079
we sent it to the full we sent it to the

1124
00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:33,200
full council

1125
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,549
without a recommendation

1126
00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:39,599
i thought the whole council was there

1127
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:41,040
that was that i was at the committee

1128
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:45,109
meeting

1129
00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:46,559
i'm surprised because i'm not on a

1130
00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:47,510
committee

1131
00:52:47,510 --> 00:52:49,760
[Music]

1132
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:54,559
okay uh having said that um

1133
00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:56,880
two three things that i would comment

1134
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,000
about

1135
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,040
uh the first one is yes this has nothing

1136
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:06,240
to do with the safety of the police officers um

1137
00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:08,559
if we were by bulletproof vests if we

1138
00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:11,200
were to spend this kind of money on the

1139
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,760
crisis or include some other things in

1140
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,280
the health department

1141
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,319
this would improve the uh safety of the

1142
00:53:18,319 --> 00:53:20,240
police officers so this has nothing to

1143
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:22,720
do with the safety of the police officer

1144
00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:25,599
it is a it is a new way to make more

1145
00:53:25,599 --> 00:53:26,480
money

1146
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,480
and it may or may not have merit but it

1147
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,319
has nothing to do with the safety of the

1148
00:53:30,319 --> 00:53:31,599
officers

1149
00:53:31,599 --> 00:53:35,119
secondly uh if we go down this path we

1150
00:53:35,119 --> 00:53:37,359
cannot just add 157

1151
00:53:37,359 --> 00:53:39,280
people across the six hundred thousand

1152
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,280
dollars we gotta add

1153
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,920
everybody in the nursing home we gotta

1154
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,920
add everybody in the health department

1155
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,480
we've got to add everybody else who can

1156
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,160
make the same case

1157
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:53,040
and that that i think i think i'm

1158
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,520
willing to have accounting people

1159
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,440
give us the number but i think that

1160
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,119
would take this for at least a million

1161
00:53:59,119 --> 00:54:01,440
dollars if we apply the same

1162
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,599
principle to other people who have to

1163
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:04,559
take

1164
00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:08,000
uh regular part of our stuff

1165
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:22,630
what could be complicated

1166
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:36,870
that

1167
00:54:36,880 --> 00:55:00,230
for

1168
00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:02,079
but i think the public opinion of the

1169
00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:17,349
police department and the public

1170
00:55:17,359 --> 00:55:46,870
and so for us

1171
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,870
go ahead

1172
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,400
i'll reference something around six

1173
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,559
hundred thousand dollars

1174
00:55:54,559 --> 00:55:56,720
and johnny look these calculations are

1175
00:55:56,720 --> 00:55:57,839
correct

1176
00:55:57,839 --> 00:56:00,079
and sheriff red and his calculations are

1177
00:56:00,079 --> 00:56:01,359
correct

1178
00:56:01,359 --> 00:56:05,440
they're talking to 323 employees

1179
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,640
121 merit officers 21 folks the

1180
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,280
courthouse

1181
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:14,319
other staff 179 so when you figure all

1182
00:56:14,319 --> 00:56:16,000
the benefits in which is what you asked

1183
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,440
us to do

1184
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,599
what you're voting on for the police

1185
00:56:19,599 --> 00:56:20,880
department

1186
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,760
is the total would be 701

1187
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,839
564 000 701

1188
00:56:28,839 --> 00:56:32,000
564. thank you mr hammond

1189
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,920
mr president in other words right in

1190
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:39,510
other words we're asking

1191
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,710
new money

1192
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:46,000
did you hear that mr hammond yes uh yes

1193
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:51,839
that is correct 700 000 of no money yes also mr hammond

1194
00:56:51,839 --> 00:56:53,280
does that include the people

1195
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,839
at the nursing home who uh everybody is

1196
00:56:56,839 --> 00:57:00,950
overseas

1197
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,079
well no i mean we're not in charge of

1198
00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:06,240
nursing homes but

1199
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:09,760
uh to that end the uh john murphy and

1200
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,359
steve dalton and i

1201
00:57:11,359 --> 00:57:14,480
tried to consider other folks that might

1202
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,240
think of themselves as in the line of

1203
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:16,880
fire

1204
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:20,559
if you will and you know the list isn't

1205
00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:22,400
exclusive but

1206
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:23,920
there are other people i'm sure that

1207
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,200
will come back you mentioned the health

1208
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:26,640
department i can

1209
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:28,319
you've talked about others that might be

1210
00:57:28,319 --> 00:57:29,839
coming back and saying well we you

1211
00:57:29,839 --> 00:57:30,880
should deserve

1212
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,440
hazard phase 2 and john murphy to the

1213
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:35,280
best of his ability

1214
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,880
that at uh that could be another 1.7

1215
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,079
million dollars

1216
00:57:40,079 --> 00:57:43,280
if you say yes 2.7 million

1217
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:45,440
if you say yes to everybody if you come

1218
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,720
back and you say yes to the jjc and yes

1219
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,680
you are you know to the to the uh health

1220
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,680
department that is yes to a pea chef and

1221
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:54,160
yes

1222
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,520
but yeah i mean conceivably so you know

1223
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:01,270
that's worst case scenario

1224
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,549
mr president

1225
00:58:04,559 --> 00:58:08,079
uh hi uh i'm i want to state that i'm

1226
00:58:08,079 --> 00:58:10,160
generally in favor of some kind of

1227
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:11,680
hazard compensation

1228
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,799
for uh county employees

1229
00:58:14,799 --> 00:58:17,839
at most risk however i think

1230
00:58:17,839 --> 00:58:19,520
that we need a lot more in-depth

1231
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:20,960
discussion and

1232
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,079
uh research into the matter before we

1233
00:58:24,079 --> 00:58:26,160
vote on this matter so i would like to

1234
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:27,760
make a motion to send it back to

1235
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,000
committee

1236
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,440
[Music]

1237
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,520
there's a motion on the floor made by ms

1238
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,200
hass to send bill number 43-20

1239
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,960
back to committee i believe a second was

1240
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,829
made by

1241
00:58:41,839 --> 00:58:45,040
bobby mr krazinski

1242
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,599
so there's a motion on the floor to send

1243
00:58:47,599 --> 00:58:49,760
bill 4320 back to committee

1244
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,079
made by ms hess and it was seconded by

1245
00:58:52,079 --> 00:58:54,160
mr krasinski any further comments on

1246
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,240
4320

1247
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:59,599
mr morgan mr katan's right i just want

1248
00:58:59,599 --> 00:58:59,920
to

1249
00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:04,559
comment i i applaud sheriff redmond for

1250
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:06,880
going out and going up to bad for his

1251
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:08,079
first employees

1252
00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:11,280
and i don't dispute that they're not at

1253
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,319
more increased risk with this cobit 19

1254
00:59:14,319 --> 00:59:15,359
virus

1255
00:59:15,359 --> 00:59:18,720
but i do agree with council member pass

1256
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,040
and also others who have mentioned that

1257
00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:22,319
there probably are other county

1258
00:59:22,319 --> 00:59:24,160
employees that are at risk

1259
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:27,040
at varying levels um maybe not as much

1260
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,400
as a police officer but at a different

1261
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:28,880
level

1262
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:31,839
but i think i applaud the sheriff for

1263
00:59:31,839 --> 00:59:33,359
bringing this to our attention there are

1264
00:59:33,359 --> 00:59:34,160
other

1265
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,079
municipalities in the state and in the

1266
00:59:36,079 --> 00:59:37,280
country that are

1267
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:39,599
considering things such as hazard fee

1268
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:41,520
like this

1269
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,359
and um i think if we give it more

1270
00:59:43,359 --> 00:59:45,359
thought take it back to committee

1271
00:59:45,359 --> 00:59:46,480
i think we probably need to think about

1272
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:48,559
all the other county employees that

1273
00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:50,880
are at risk or at an increased risk and

1274
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:52,960
at what degree of risk they're at

1275
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,040
and make it an all-inclusive bill if

1276
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:56,000
we're going to do it

1277
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,839
if we are actually going to do it let's

1278
00:59:57,839 --> 01:00:00,880
make it all inclusive bill that includes

1279
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,599
all county employees that are at risk

1280
01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:05,280
and at whatever degree of risk they're

1281
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:05,520
at

1282
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,559
and offer some form of compensation dish

1283
01:00:08,559 --> 01:00:10,640
those um not just the county police

1284
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,319
officers but others that are at risk too

1285
01:00:12,319 --> 01:00:12,960
so

1286
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,000
i concur with council member kardinsky

1287
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:17,760
and council member hassan

1288
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:18,960
returned this back to committee for

1289
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,200
further study but you want the sheriff

1290
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:22,559
and his employees to know that

1291
01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:24,480
this request has not fallen on deaf ears

1292
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:26,000
and we're giving it more thought and

1293
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,079
more consideration

1294
01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:32,789
any of the comments from council

1295
01:00:32,799 --> 01:00:34,079
hearing none collectively please take

1296
01:00:34,079 --> 01:00:37,349
the role

1297
01:00:37,359 --> 01:00:39,359
this vote is to return 4320 back to

1298
01:00:39,359 --> 01:00:41,119
committee

1299
01:00:41,119 --> 01:01:08,829
yeah yes hello

1300
01:01:08,839 --> 01:01:23,750
yes

1301
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:24,960
but the record show that build number

1302
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:28,079
4320 the motion to send back

1303
01:01:28,079 --> 01:01:31,360
to committing past nine to zero

1304
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:32,799
[Applause]

1305
01:01:32,799 --> 01:01:34,799
next is public hearing of public comment

1306
01:01:34,799 --> 01:01:36,720
on fiscal matters

1307
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,319
all financial issues were heard and

1308
01:01:38,319 --> 01:01:41,119
discussed at our april 28

1309
01:01:41,119 --> 01:01:43,280
2020 committee meeting is there anyone

1310
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:44,960
who wishes to speak in favor of any

1311
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,789
financial issue on tonight's agenda

1312
01:01:48,799 --> 01:01:50,559
is there anyone who wishes to speak in

1313
01:01:50,559 --> 01:01:52,240
opposition of any

1314
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,839
financial issue on tonight's agenda

1315
01:01:55,839 --> 01:01:57,359
hearing none public comment is now

1316
01:01:57,359 --> 01:01:59,680
closed clerk will you please read bill

1317
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:03,109
number 3720

1318
01:02:03,119 --> 01:02:04,160
learn that's incorporating and

1319
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:05,839
transferring money for the purposes here

1320
01:02:05,839 --> 01:02:07,119
and specified for the separate

1321
01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:08,559
apartments getting enlisted at st

1322
01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:11,760
joseph county government

1323
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:17,109
may i have a motion on bill 3720

1324
01:02:17,119 --> 01:02:22,309
move for passage second

1325
01:02:22,319 --> 01:02:24,640
a vote to pass 37-20 was made by

1326
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:25,920
councilman catanzale

1327
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:27,760
seconded by councilwoman hess any

1328
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,200
further comments from any council member

1329
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:33,029
on 3720

1330
01:02:33,039 --> 01:02:34,480
you right now quickly please take the

1331
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,559
roll

1332
01:02:36,559 --> 01:02:44,640
mr krishnansky yes mr nolan yes mr chef

1333
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:55,589
mr file hi

1334
01:02:55,599 --> 01:02:58,559
just to clarify just 175 thousand

1335
01:02:58,559 --> 01:03:02,640
dollars to lay through us in this bill

1336
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:10,319
i think so uh mr floyd i believe it is it is stand by hold up stand by

1337
01:03:10,319 --> 01:03:14,559
i'm looking here it is it is mark

1338
01:03:14,559 --> 01:03:18,950
yeah t no

1339
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,319
you want to vote no on the whole thing

1340
01:03:20,319 --> 01:03:26,549
or just item t

1341
01:03:26,559 --> 01:03:29,920
uh no on item t no on the lease of the

1342
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:34,549
40 pickups

1343
01:03:34,559 --> 01:03:39,190
i can make a note of that

1344
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:56,829
okay thank you oh miss katanza

1345
01:03:56,839 --> 01:03:59,599
yes

1346
01:03:59,599 --> 01:04:02,400
motion carries over all nine to zero

1347
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:07,599
except it appears eight to one on item g and on the item which talks

1348
01:04:07,599 --> 01:04:10,829
about the leases

1349
01:04:10,839 --> 01:04:24,829
i

1350
01:04:24,839 --> 01:04:43,430
right

1351
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:47,280
yes sir okay let the records show that

1352
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,039
bill number 3720

1353
01:04:49,039 --> 01:04:52,480
was overall passed by a vote of 9-0

1354
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:55,200
except for item t and item e which was

1355
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:59,510
8-1

1356
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:04,079
thank you that concludes public hearing

1357
01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:06,400
for this evening next on the agenda is

1358
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,839
miscellaneous items

1359
01:05:09,839 --> 01:05:12,960
yes councilman morton yes

1360
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,079
andy castell um i had a question

1361
01:05:16,079 --> 01:05:18,480
um during the committee meeting last a

1362
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:21,200
couple of weeks ago we had discussed

1363
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,079
on the possibility of here of having

1364
01:05:24,079 --> 01:05:26,799
first reading and also taking action

1365
01:05:26,799 --> 01:05:31,599
on what i believe is bill 4620

1366
01:05:31,599 --> 01:05:35,839
and kind of modifying the emergency pace

1367
01:05:35,839 --> 01:05:36,400
functions

1368
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,960
being used to complicate our facility

1369
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:40,720
through the kobe 19 thing as we were

1370
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:41,680
beginning

1371
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:45,119
county offices and ran back

1372
01:05:45,119 --> 01:05:49,200
the thought was by multiple attorneys

1373
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,520
that we take action and we speak that so

1374
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:52,480
we can move

1375
01:05:52,480 --> 01:06:01,349
forward

1376
01:06:01,359 --> 01:06:07,109
i don't know if you had plans on

1377
01:06:07,119 --> 01:06:10,880
mr morgan yes i i presume that

1378
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,960
councilman is referring to the uh

1379
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,559
ordinance today we got emailed

1380
01:06:14,559 --> 01:06:26,950
the draft ordinance by peter augustine

1381
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,400
suspend our rules and have unanimous

1382
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,240
agreements that we would get willing to

1383
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:34,480
do that in order to move that forward is

1384
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:35,280
that right

1385
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:40,789
yes no that i know what he's asking

1386
01:06:40,799 --> 01:06:46,000
mr trebow yes

1387
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:48,480
so we we would need to have a unanimous

1388
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,200
vote to suspend the rules

1389
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:55,670
that's correct

1390
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:57,920
do i hear a motion to suspend the rules

1391
01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:59,839
to vote this evening on 46

1392
01:06:59,839 --> 01:07:03,520
20. mr morgan yes

1393
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,280
did mr triple get a chance to review

1394
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:11,349
that ordinance

1395
01:07:11,359 --> 01:07:13,599
i did it works in concert with the

1396
01:07:13,599 --> 01:07:17,119
previous two ordinances we passed

1397
01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:19,119
for purposes of stay-at-home pay

1398
01:07:19,119 --> 01:07:21,280
emergency pay etc

1399
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,039
since we have some employees working in

1400
01:07:23,039 --> 01:07:25,440
the building some at home

1401
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,920
some remote this is part of the phase

1402
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:29,440
back of the employees

1403
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:30,960
it is consistent with what we're trying

1404
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:35,750
to do

1405
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,359
i i heard you say you worked on the

1406
01:07:37,359 --> 01:07:38,640
previous two did you get a chance to

1407
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,240
review the one that was emailed to us on

1408
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:41,599
friday

1409
01:07:41,599 --> 01:07:44,960
yes are you you're a part of that

1410
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:54,710
yes yes okay

1411
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:58,079
so so and we need to take a vote

1412
01:07:58,079 --> 01:08:00,400
to have a unanimous decision whether we

1413
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:01,920
are going to suspend the rules to vote

1414
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:04,559
on 46 20 this evening

1415
01:08:04,559 --> 01:08:07,599
mr martin yes

1416
01:08:07,599 --> 01:08:09,440
given that the county will be reopening

1417
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:11,280
probably before our next county council

1418
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,119
meeting and

1419
01:08:13,119 --> 01:08:14,960
there might be a necessity to pass this

1420
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,400
ordinance tonight i would

1421
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:17,920
you will make you suspend the rules and

1422
01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,080
make the motion to spin the rules

1423
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:22,560
to consider voting on bill 4620 tonight

1424
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:27,749
that's marcus

1425
01:08:27,759 --> 01:08:29,600
it was voted there was a motion on the

1426
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:31,120
floor by mr stands right

1427
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,679
it was seconded by councilwoman hess to

1428
01:08:33,679 --> 01:08:35,040
suspend the rules

1429
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,759
uh to enable us to vote on 20 this

1430
01:08:37,759 --> 01:08:38,719
evening

1431
01:08:38,719 --> 01:08:44,870
clerk will you please take the role

1432
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:48,229
yep mr nolan

1433
01:08:48,239 --> 01:09:04,829
yes

1434
01:09:04,839 --> 01:09:46,829
no

1435
01:09:46,839 --> 01:10:04,709
yes

1436
01:10:04,719 --> 01:10:08,950
i can't hear you

1437
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:10,480
somebody needs to mute their phone i

1438
01:10:10,480 --> 01:10:12,480
cannot hear you

1439
01:10:12,480 --> 01:10:16,400
is this better yes all right so this

1440
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,040
commission castellny i will reach out to

1441
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:20,880
hr

1442
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,440
i i don't know what if we will then be

1443
01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:24,239
able to

1444
01:10:24,239 --> 01:10:27,120
continue to pair employees as we move

1445
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:27,679
through

1446
01:10:27,679 --> 01:10:29,440
i know we've kind of were able to work

1447
01:10:29,440 --> 01:10:31,920
through the most current pay period

1448
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,400
so i don't know um i will i will uh

1449
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:35,040
efforts

1450
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,679
to figure out what we are able to do

1451
01:10:37,679 --> 01:10:38,640
employee wise

1452
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:41,920
for the next day period so mr stelling

1453
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:42,640
would you please

1454
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:48,480
uh keep me uh informed on what uh what you find out how we move

1455
01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:50,000
forward on this

1456
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:54,149
correct i will all right sir

1457
01:10:54,159 --> 01:11:10,470
next next item

1458
01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:17,990
understands

1459
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,960
next item is unfinished business next

1460
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:23,360
item is new business

1461
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:24,880
next item is adjournment may have a

1462
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:26,480
motion to adjourn

1463
01:11:26,480 --> 01:11:28,810
so move motion second

1464
01:11:28,810 --> 01:11:30,880
[Music]

1465
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,000
second second

1466
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:38,080
all in favor favor all right

1467
01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:41,040
hi this meeting is adjourned thank you

1468
01:11:41,040 --> 01:12:14,709
very much

1469
01:12:14,719 --> 01:12:16,800
you