1 00:00:05,279 --> 00:00:08,000 Many of you either have post construction stormwater 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,800 control facilities on-site. Raise your hand if you 3 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:15,965 have one on-site. Yeah, yeah, you guys have 4 00:00:15,965 --> 00:00:18,445 one. Yep. All right, raise your hand if 5 00:00:18,445 --> 00:00:21,085 you're here just a resident to learn more 6 00:00:21,085 --> 00:00:26,310 about these facilities. Cool. Raise your hand if 7 00:00:26,310 --> 00:00:28,310 you're here because we're from the city and 8 00:00:28,310 --> 00:00:33,350 I asked youtold you. Nothing wrong. Yay, thank 9 00:00:33,350 --> 00:00:38,310 you. So this year we are requiring all 10 00:00:38,310 --> 00:00:41,365 owners of post construction stormwater controls for water 11 00:00:41,365 --> 00:00:45,925 quality to be inspected and maintained. Maintaining them 12 00:00:45,925 --> 00:00:47,845 could be a variety of different things depending 13 00:00:47,845 --> 00:00:49,925 on what kind of BMP or best management 14 00:00:49,925 --> 00:00:52,405 practice, what's installed on your site. We do 15 00:00:52,405 --> 00:00:54,805 have some engineers here that I've reviewed many 16 00:00:54,805 --> 00:00:58,450 of their plans. So yeah, we're really glad 17 00:00:58,450 --> 00:01:00,210 to have you guys. I have my inspectors 18 00:01:00,210 --> 00:01:02,850 in the back, Dan Kern, Samuel Miller, and 19 00:01:02,850 --> 00:01:05,410 Jeff Parker. They're behind you, so you may 20 00:01:05,410 --> 00:01:07,010 see them out on your facility or they 21 00:01:07,010 --> 00:01:09,090 may be the ones you guys contact us 22 00:01:09,345 --> 00:01:12,625 to have some more insight in the field 23 00:01:12,625 --> 00:01:14,865 on what your controls are, how they're supposed 24 00:01:14,865 --> 00:01:16,545 to function, if they're looking okay, if you're 25 00:01:16,545 --> 00:01:19,345 doing the proper maintenance. I left my business 26 00:01:19,345 --> 00:01:21,345 card on everyone's table, so please feel free 27 00:01:21,345 --> 00:01:23,530 to reach out. There's also a form on 28 00:01:23,530 --> 00:01:25,049 your table that if you guys could go 29 00:01:25,049 --> 00:01:27,530 ahead and fill out. It's not the inspection 30 00:01:27,530 --> 00:01:30,170 form. It's the other it's just a single 31 00:01:30,170 --> 00:01:32,009 page form. The inspection form will go through 32 00:01:32,009 --> 00:01:34,090 together at the end with some pictures to 33 00:01:34,090 --> 00:01:35,770 kind of get everyone a feel for what 34 00:01:35,770 --> 00:01:37,645 it is that they're looking at and looking 35 00:01:37,645 --> 00:01:40,045 forward, but that other forum helps us with 36 00:01:40,045 --> 00:01:42,524 tracking and reaching out for those annual inspection 37 00:01:42,524 --> 00:01:46,284 reports and operation and maintenance documents a little 38 00:01:46,284 --> 00:01:51,409 bit later in the year. Awesome. Well, you 39 00:01:51,409 --> 00:01:53,810 guys for helping protect our water quality here 40 00:01:53,810 --> 00:01:56,530 in St. Joseph. I am here with Amy 41 00:01:56,530 --> 00:01:59,250 and Caitlin, my Black and Veatch consultants, and 42 00:01:59,250 --> 00:02:00,770 they are going to go ahead and go 43 00:02:00,770 --> 00:02:03,445 through a presentation. Do you want them to 44 00:02:03,445 --> 00:02:04,805 raise their hand if they have a question 45 00:02:04,805 --> 00:02:08,245 as you're going or would you prefer? Yes, 46 00:02:08,324 --> 00:02:12,084 please interrupt me as you'd like to ask 47 00:02:12,084 --> 00:02:15,800 a question. If you're joining us from online, 48 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:20,040 welcome. We want you to utilize the chat. 49 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:22,360 I can see it from here and I'll 50 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,480 address your question if pop it in there. 51 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:28,125 Can they go ahead and put their contact 52 00:02:28,125 --> 00:02:30,845 info in the chat as well? Oh, yes. 53 00:02:30,925 --> 00:02:36,525 Please put your contact information in the chat 54 00:02:36,685 --> 00:02:39,965 and please tell Colleen if you have a 55 00:02:39,965 --> 00:02:42,680 stormwater detention facility. Think I she'd love to 56 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,160 know that. I think that was one of 57 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:49,160 the entry or the entry questions. And then 58 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:50,760 please feel free to grab a snack if 59 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:51,880 you guys need to get up and use 60 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,520 the restroom or in the hallway to your 61 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,205 right hand side. If anything comes up, just 62 00:02:57,205 --> 00:02:58,724 let us know. We're here to help and 63 00:02:58,724 --> 00:03:02,965 answer questions. Thank you guys. So as Colleen 64 00:03:02,965 --> 00:03:05,685 said, my name is Amy Dietz. I've been 65 00:03:05,685 --> 00:03:08,580 with Black and Veatch for about four years 66 00:03:08,580 --> 00:03:11,220 and I've been an engineer in Kansas City 67 00:03:11,220 --> 00:03:15,220 area for about twenty. And I'm here today 68 00:03:15,220 --> 00:03:19,940 to talk about stormwater protection and inspection. It's 69 00:03:19,940 --> 00:03:23,675 not enough to build. A stormwater facility. We 70 00:03:23,675 --> 00:03:26,475 also have to maintain it, make sure it's 71 00:03:26,475 --> 00:03:34,795 still working. This live training is being recorded, 72 00:03:35,275 --> 00:03:39,220 and by participating, you are consenting to being 73 00:03:39,220 --> 00:03:44,260 recorded. Fantastic. The purpose of this course, we're 74 00:03:44,260 --> 00:03:48,739 gonna go over post construction BMPs. So things 75 00:03:48,739 --> 00:03:51,379 that we've put in place to manage water 76 00:03:51,379 --> 00:03:55,585 quality and water quantity. And then just some 77 00:03:55,585 --> 00:03:58,225 common maintenance issues that we see around the 78 00:03:58,225 --> 00:04:02,465 city. We're gonna review permitting requirements and what 79 00:04:02,465 --> 00:04:05,265 the city code says we have to do, 80 00:04:05,780 --> 00:04:09,700 and then we'll review some inspection form requirements. 81 00:04:11,700 --> 00:04:20,899 And we'll let everyone into the lobby. There 82 00:04:20,899 --> 00:04:24,775 we go. So the city has an MS4 83 00:04:24,775 --> 00:04:28,854 permit, and that's defined as a municipal separate 84 00:04:28,854 --> 00:04:33,815 storm sewer system. It's operated by the city 85 00:04:34,340 --> 00:04:38,020 and it's audited by the Missouri Department of 86 00:04:38,020 --> 00:04:41,940 Natural Resources. One of the most common deficiencies 87 00:04:41,940 --> 00:04:44,900 that pops up on an audit just anywhere 88 00:04:44,900 --> 00:04:50,515 in the nation, not specifically here, is documentation. 89 00:04:50,515 --> 00:04:52,355 That's kind of one of the hardest things 90 00:04:52,355 --> 00:04:54,275 to do. We do a pretty good job 91 00:04:54,275 --> 00:04:58,435 of everything else. We're going to go over 92 00:04:58,435 --> 00:05:02,115 the types and common maintenance issues of some 93 00:05:02,115 --> 00:05:05,060 of these facilities. When I talk about post 94 00:05:05,060 --> 00:05:09,700 construction BMPs, I mean all the water quality 95 00:05:10,180 --> 00:05:12,020 things that have been built in the last 96 00:05:12,020 --> 00:05:15,700 probably ten years. And before that, we were 97 00:05:15,700 --> 00:05:18,260 still building detention basins, which do have some 98 00:05:18,260 --> 00:05:22,145 water quality benefits. So some common issues we 99 00:05:22,145 --> 00:05:26,465 see with detention ponds are beaver, rodent activity, 100 00:05:26,705 --> 00:05:35,030 potable sedimentation, scour, and invasive species. Yeah. See 101 00:05:35,030 --> 00:05:39,190 the screen. I can see the screen. Thank 102 00:05:39,190 --> 00:05:45,350 you. Okay. Glad you asked. So the picture 103 00:05:45,350 --> 00:05:48,045 in the center there is the Amur or 104 00:05:48,045 --> 00:05:50,525 bush honeysuckle. I don't know if you're familiar 105 00:05:50,525 --> 00:05:52,685 with it. It gets these lovely white blossoms 106 00:05:52,685 --> 00:05:54,765 on it, and once you know what it 107 00:05:54,765 --> 00:05:59,565 is, you start seeing it everywhere. It's not 108 00:05:59,565 --> 00:06:01,165 enough to chop it down, you have to 109 00:06:01,165 --> 00:06:04,190 poison the stump. If you look at the 110 00:06:04,190 --> 00:06:09,310 understory in the center picture here. It's there. 111 00:06:09,390 --> 00:06:13,390 Nothing lives underneath this. This is a non 112 00:06:13,390 --> 00:06:19,225 native and a pretty expensive invasive. Counties are 113 00:06:19,225 --> 00:06:20,985 spending a lot of money getting rid of 114 00:06:20,985 --> 00:06:24,425 this stuff, cutting it back, trying to trying 115 00:06:24,425 --> 00:06:27,065 to manage it. And then there's the other 116 00:06:27,065 --> 00:06:29,225 things that you might be more familiar with 117 00:06:29,225 --> 00:06:32,345 the eastern red cedars. You have a cow 118 00:06:32,345 --> 00:06:35,520 pasture, you'll see those growing real commonly in 119 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:39,760 it. Johnson grass and Reed canary grass. They're 120 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,000 a little harder to identify. I have a 121 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:46,160 picture here somewhere, but they just kind of 122 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:51,844 look bully and overground really tall grasses. Another 123 00:06:51,844 --> 00:06:55,205 common issue we have with tension ponds is 124 00:06:55,205 --> 00:07:00,164 eutrophication. That's a fancy word for saying buildup 125 00:07:00,164 --> 00:07:03,789 of nutrients. The reason this is a problem 126 00:07:03,789 --> 00:07:06,110 is that lowers the dissolved oxygen in the 127 00:07:06,110 --> 00:07:10,510 pond, which kills your fish, and significantly tanks 128 00:07:10,590 --> 00:07:13,870 your recreational ability when there's dead fish in 129 00:07:13,870 --> 00:07:19,405 your pond. This happened in Krug Park Lake. 130 00:07:20,605 --> 00:07:24,445 Let's see 2023. So a couple years ago. 131 00:07:25,085 --> 00:07:32,260 And oh, Lisa, you can't hear me, I've 132 00:07:32,260 --> 00:07:35,940 gotten a notification online that we're having some 133 00:07:35,940 --> 00:07:42,980 audio issues. Paul Free notified me that he 134 00:07:42,980 --> 00:07:45,425 could hear me. So I wonder if the 135 00:07:45,425 --> 00:07:49,905 problem is on your end, Lisa. Anyway, the 136 00:07:50,145 --> 00:07:54,305 Department of Natural Resources, they do track these 137 00:07:54,544 --> 00:07:58,280 harmful algal blooms. There's a website, you can 138 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,960 Google it, real easy. And it has a 139 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,560 lot of, it really is pretty harmful. It 140 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:09,000 can harm humans, pets and wildlife. Pets are 141 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:14,055 the most common victim of this cyanobacteria. This 142 00:08:14,055 --> 00:08:17,014 examples from Jackrabbit Lake, which is in Jackson 143 00:08:17,014 --> 00:08:24,840 County, Kansas City. And And it can happen 144 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:27,880 here. This cyanobacteria is not, you know, not 145 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,520 super rare or anything, and it can cause 146 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:40,545 neurological or liver damage to to pets. Turn 147 00:08:40,545 --> 00:08:42,625 off the speakers. There we go. And I 148 00:08:42,625 --> 00:08:45,505 will add here, a couple of years ago, 149 00:08:45,505 --> 00:08:47,425 this happened at the Lake Of The Ozarks, 150 00:08:48,065 --> 00:08:49,585 and there were reports of a lot of 151 00:08:49,585 --> 00:08:53,610 dogs getting sick from drinking the lake water 152 00:08:53,610 --> 00:08:59,050 down there with neurological diseases and issues like 153 00:08:59,050 --> 00:09:03,210 that. So it can be pretty dangerous and 154 00:09:03,384 --> 00:09:06,024 very unsightly. No one really wants to see 155 00:09:06,024 --> 00:09:07,545 a bunch of algae sitting on top of 156 00:09:07,545 --> 00:09:10,185 a pond. It doesn't look very pretty, but 157 00:09:10,665 --> 00:09:22,279 it also can be quite harmful. There we 158 00:09:22,279 --> 00:09:26,279 go. Another common issue we see is inlet 159 00:09:26,279 --> 00:09:30,040 scour. So scour is just a fancy word 160 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:35,305 for velocities, water erosion, or, you know, nearby 161 00:09:35,305 --> 00:09:39,305 a facility. And in this case, we have 162 00:09:39,385 --> 00:09:42,825 a loss of the inlet riprap that was 163 00:09:42,825 --> 00:09:47,870 originally meant to protect the facility. And so 164 00:09:47,870 --> 00:09:50,110 normally, you know, I don't really care if 165 00:09:50,110 --> 00:09:53,470 everything looks absolutely perfect, but this kind of 166 00:09:53,470 --> 00:09:57,870 of scour over time can lead to failure, 167 00:09:57,870 --> 00:10:01,205 failure of the you know, because it supports 168 00:10:01,205 --> 00:10:08,965 the inlet and outlet structures. Okay, there we 169 00:10:08,965 --> 00:10:13,045 go. So erosion and scour, what's the big 170 00:10:13,045 --> 00:10:18,440 deal about that? You know, this picture just 171 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,640 makes me very sad because this facility is 172 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,880 less than five years old. I was able 173 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,840 to use Google Earth and kind of use 174 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:33,265 the time thing and it almost immediately within 175 00:10:33,265 --> 00:10:38,945 two years it failed. Scour at the outlet 176 00:10:38,945 --> 00:10:41,265 caused if you can see my cursor, it 177 00:10:41,265 --> 00:10:44,110 caused soil loss up here and it caused 178 00:10:44,110 --> 00:10:47,230 soil loss down here where my cursor is. 179 00:10:48,350 --> 00:10:50,990 And then that lack of support around the 180 00:10:50,990 --> 00:10:54,110 end section, you know, caused it to separate 181 00:10:54,110 --> 00:10:58,545 and fail. And as an engineer, I really 182 00:10:58,545 --> 00:11:01,745 strongly believe in blaming the contractor. But at 183 00:11:01,745 --> 00:11:04,705 this point, it doesn't matter. We, know, we 184 00:11:04,705 --> 00:11:06,785 have to maintain the facility because this is 185 00:11:06,785 --> 00:11:08,625 a brand new facility that could last for 186 00:11:08,625 --> 00:11:11,870 many, many more years if, you know, if 187 00:11:11,870 --> 00:11:14,910 we get a handle on it now, we 188 00:11:14,910 --> 00:11:17,230 certainly it's just going to get more expensive 189 00:11:17,230 --> 00:11:19,790 to maintain if this kind of thing is 190 00:11:19,790 --> 00:11:26,110 left to go. Some other common outlet scour 191 00:11:26,235 --> 00:11:31,675 that we see is this HDPE pipe is 192 00:11:31,995 --> 00:11:37,515 engineering wise, pretty fair product. It's light, the 193 00:11:37,515 --> 00:11:41,490 walls are thin, easy to handle. It all 194 00:11:41,490 --> 00:11:43,490 kind of snaps together with the end section 195 00:11:43,490 --> 00:11:47,090 here where my cursor is. But it is 196 00:11:47,090 --> 00:11:50,130 vulnerable to UV. So having this much of 197 00:11:50,130 --> 00:11:52,770 it exposed from the embankment is just not 198 00:11:52,770 --> 00:11:55,795 great for it. Where my cursor is, there's 199 00:11:55,795 --> 00:11:57,795 a big crack in the side of this 200 00:11:57,795 --> 00:12:01,395 pipe, so we're already experiencing some failure and 201 00:12:01,395 --> 00:12:04,195 whether that's due to UV damage or maybe 202 00:12:04,195 --> 00:12:05,955 perhaps it was hit by a mower, it's 203 00:12:05,955 --> 00:12:10,420 hard to say. But it really should have 204 00:12:10,420 --> 00:12:14,100 been protected from sunlight and damage with a 205 00:12:14,100 --> 00:12:17,620 little bit more riprap. In general, I like 206 00:12:17,620 --> 00:12:19,780 to see whatever the diameter of the pipe 207 00:12:19,780 --> 00:12:21,995 is. As a rule of thumb, I want 208 00:12:21,995 --> 00:12:24,235 like two and a half times whatever that 209 00:12:24,235 --> 00:12:26,395 the diameter of the pipe is. That's how 210 00:12:26,395 --> 00:12:29,435 wide I want that riprap usually at an 211 00:12:29,435 --> 00:12:32,955 outlet section. And then up around the top 212 00:12:32,955 --> 00:12:34,955 of it just to protect it from stuff 213 00:12:34,955 --> 00:12:37,730 like this. You can also see, not so 214 00:12:37,730 --> 00:12:40,769 only did they not make enough riprap on 215 00:12:40,769 --> 00:12:43,250 width wise, but I'm not sure they added 216 00:12:43,250 --> 00:12:45,089 enough length or if they did it, it 217 00:12:45,089 --> 00:12:47,970 got washed away. Because now we're seeing some 218 00:12:47,970 --> 00:12:51,170 scour at the toe right here where my 219 00:12:51,170 --> 00:12:54,665 cursor is. So this is the kind of 220 00:12:54,665 --> 00:12:56,905 thing though, that with a little bit of 221 00:12:56,905 --> 00:13:00,585 riprap and some landscaping landscape crew, we could 222 00:13:00,585 --> 00:13:02,905 address this pretty easily before the failure gets 223 00:13:02,905 --> 00:13:05,705 any worse. Certainly, you could also cut the 224 00:13:05,705 --> 00:13:09,450 pipe off here, reattach the end section and 225 00:13:09,450 --> 00:13:11,610 just back the whole thing up and then 226 00:13:11,610 --> 00:13:18,810 that crack wouldn't continue. I love this picture. 227 00:13:18,810 --> 00:13:23,404 This is beaver and muskrat damage from just 228 00:13:23,404 --> 00:13:27,565 one winter. So we see this bright, bright, 229 00:13:27,565 --> 00:13:30,925 bright white wood because there must have been 230 00:13:30,925 --> 00:13:34,560 an absolutely an army of these guys. This 231 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:39,120 was not a St. Joseph City Park, but 232 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:43,920 it was a city park. And boy, this 233 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:47,120 is just a lot, a lot of damage 234 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:50,195 to the trees. And if they don't do 235 00:13:50,195 --> 00:13:54,515 something about this beaver and muskrat damage, not 236 00:13:54,515 --> 00:13:56,355 only are they not going to have any 237 00:13:56,355 --> 00:14:00,195 trees in the wetland here, but they're also, 238 00:14:00,770 --> 00:14:03,810 when this wood dies, guess where it ends 239 00:14:03,810 --> 00:14:06,210 up? Blocks the inlet, you know, it ends 240 00:14:06,210 --> 00:14:10,930 up against the outlet structure and it creates 241 00:14:10,930 --> 00:14:14,290 more problems. Can I add something too? Oh, 242 00:14:14,290 --> 00:14:18,144 please do. Another thing with beaver and muskrat 243 00:14:18,144 --> 00:14:22,785 damage. I know of a property that had 244 00:14:22,785 --> 00:14:26,144 a huge Beaver Dam, the biggest one I've 245 00:14:26,144 --> 00:14:29,185 ever seen, and it had drained upon three 246 00:14:29,185 --> 00:14:34,100 feet back into and flooded the upland area 247 00:14:34,100 --> 00:14:38,899 of it. So it definitely can damage your 248 00:14:39,060 --> 00:14:41,860 facilities, the structures you have on your facilities. 249 00:14:41,860 --> 00:14:44,899 It definitely needs to be maintained, looked after, 250 00:14:46,165 --> 00:14:49,125 because they're really good engineers. They're really good 251 00:14:49,125 --> 00:14:54,245 at building things, and they can really wreak 252 00:14:54,245 --> 00:14:56,885 havoc on the things that we build. So 253 00:14:57,365 --> 00:15:00,920 definitely something to watch out for and just 254 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:07,560 be aware of. So a detention pond is 255 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,279 not a levy, but a lot of the 256 00:15:10,279 --> 00:15:19,375 maintenance recommendations and deficiency, you know, solutions are 257 00:15:19,375 --> 00:15:22,575 similar to a levee. So if you look 258 00:15:22,575 --> 00:15:25,775 at my picture here, we should really have 259 00:15:26,015 --> 00:15:30,810 a vegetation or I mean woody vegetation, woody 260 00:15:30,810 --> 00:15:36,090 vegetation free zone about 15 feet on either 261 00:15:36,090 --> 00:15:39,290 side of the embankment. And then the crown 262 00:15:39,370 --> 00:15:41,930 and both sides of the embankment should also 263 00:15:41,930 --> 00:15:46,834 be free of that woody vegetation. Our kind 264 00:15:46,834 --> 00:15:50,675 of standard size for having to address some 265 00:15:50,675 --> 00:15:52,755 of this is four inches. So if you 266 00:15:52,755 --> 00:15:56,595 have a wildlife burrow or a tree that's 267 00:15:56,595 --> 00:16:00,660 four inches in diameter or larger, then we 268 00:16:00,660 --> 00:16:03,060 not only need it removed, but we need 269 00:16:03,060 --> 00:16:06,339 to backfill it with something called mud pack. 270 00:16:06,339 --> 00:16:10,100 And mud packing is a solution of 90% 271 00:16:10,100 --> 00:16:14,265 soil and 10% concrete. And it's kind of 272 00:16:14,265 --> 00:16:18,025 a cure all for issues that you might 273 00:16:18,025 --> 00:16:21,945 have with your embankment. If you're seeing some 274 00:16:22,985 --> 00:16:25,945 scour, if you're seeing, you know, some embankment 275 00:16:25,945 --> 00:16:28,490 failure, if you're just, you know, noticing that 276 00:16:28,490 --> 00:16:32,410 you need to freshen your, you know, to 277 00:16:32,410 --> 00:16:34,730 stop some of the erosion that's going on, 278 00:16:34,810 --> 00:16:37,130 that's a great remedy. So we've talked a 279 00:16:37,130 --> 00:16:40,845 lot about, you know, the damage or deficiencies 280 00:16:40,845 --> 00:16:43,485 that you can have with your detention ponds. 281 00:16:43,485 --> 00:16:47,245 And that's a great, really inexpensive way to 282 00:16:47,245 --> 00:16:51,885 remedy some of those maintenance issues. Some other 283 00:16:51,885 --> 00:16:55,930 issues that we can have are colonizing species. 284 00:16:56,170 --> 00:16:58,889 So cattails aren't a terrible thing. But if 285 00:16:58,889 --> 00:17:02,730 they take over, you won't have in a 286 00:17:02,730 --> 00:17:07,530 bio retention system very much biodiversity if you 287 00:17:07,530 --> 00:17:13,244 let cattails take over. Bioretention is a terrific 288 00:17:13,244 --> 00:17:17,724 means of trapping and removing sediment from stormwater. 289 00:17:17,724 --> 00:17:19,645 We use it for that all the time. 290 00:17:20,045 --> 00:17:22,205 Trash and floatables also get caught up in 291 00:17:22,205 --> 00:17:24,125 it, and that's great. That's what we wanted 292 00:17:24,125 --> 00:17:26,799 it to do, But it doesn't magically vanish. 293 00:17:26,799 --> 00:17:29,440 We then have to remove it from the 294 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:34,559 facility. Some other common issues we can get. 295 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:38,065 Oh, this is the same The same thing 296 00:17:38,065 --> 00:17:40,385 I just talked about, but for a bioswale 297 00:17:40,385 --> 00:17:46,705 versus bioretention. So it's just basically linear. The 298 00:17:46,705 --> 00:17:49,105 photo on the bottom. Well, the photo on 299 00:17:49,105 --> 00:17:51,745 the top there, the higher photo, that's Johnson 300 00:17:51,745 --> 00:17:54,549 grass. A lot of it. So I talked 301 00:17:54,549 --> 00:17:57,429 about invasive species earlier. That's what it looks 302 00:17:57,429 --> 00:18:00,710 like if you're interested. And then the lower 303 00:18:00,710 --> 00:18:03,190 picture has cattails in it. And I think 304 00:18:03,190 --> 00:18:06,325 this photo is interesting because I can't quite 305 00:18:06,325 --> 00:18:09,605 tell what's going on. I'm not sure if 306 00:18:09,605 --> 00:18:12,804 it was designed to treat the runoff from 307 00:18:12,804 --> 00:18:16,965 the lawn before it enters the gutter. Or 308 00:18:16,965 --> 00:18:19,284 if it was meant to treat the runoff 309 00:18:19,284 --> 00:18:23,080 from the street as it leaves the gutter. 310 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,360 And it doesn't matter. At any rate, it's 311 00:18:26,360 --> 00:18:29,960 completely full of cattails, whatever and sediment, whatever 312 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,815 function it was providing is. It just needs 313 00:18:33,815 --> 00:18:36,375 a refresh, a little bit of maintenance here. 314 00:18:39,095 --> 00:18:44,215 So moving on, underground detention. Boy, howdy. It 315 00:18:44,215 --> 00:18:46,695 is tough to get a picture of underground 316 00:18:46,695 --> 00:18:50,700 detention. We cover it up and we forget 317 00:18:50,700 --> 00:18:53,180 about it. But I would argue that it's 318 00:18:53,180 --> 00:18:56,300 one of the more important things to inspect 319 00:18:56,380 --> 00:19:00,780 and track. Because, you know, if it gets 320 00:19:00,780 --> 00:19:05,995 forgotten about, and it gets plugged, or drilled 321 00:19:05,995 --> 00:19:08,795 into for something else, for a utility, for 322 00:19:08,795 --> 00:19:11,595 a sign, you've decided, okay, I want to 323 00:19:11,595 --> 00:19:13,915 put some fence posts in, I'm going to 324 00:19:13,915 --> 00:19:16,475 put them right across the street here, and 325 00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:20,630 oops, I hit the hit the tank of 326 00:19:20,630 --> 00:19:23,510 the underground attention. So yeah, we do have 327 00:19:23,510 --> 00:19:27,110 to they're not visible and it does create 328 00:19:27,110 --> 00:19:29,350 a little bit of an extra maintenance and 329 00:19:29,350 --> 00:19:38,945 inspection challenge there. So, yes, I'm going to 330 00:19:38,945 --> 00:19:42,625 turn it over to Caitlin. Can I skip 331 00:19:42,625 --> 00:19:45,264 a slide? Sorry. Yes, I'm going to turn 332 00:19:45,264 --> 00:19:47,390 it over to Caitlin, and she's going to 333 00:19:47,390 --> 00:19:50,910 talk about city's requirements, the code, and the 334 00:19:50,910 --> 00:19:55,150 permitting requirements. Yes, I get the super exciting 335 00:19:55,150 --> 00:20:01,230 topic of permitting city code regulations, try to 336 00:20:01,230 --> 00:20:03,135 stay awake. I will try to make it 337 00:20:03,135 --> 00:20:06,975 interesting probably won't be but I will try 338 00:20:07,695 --> 00:20:13,615 so, permitting requirements and city code Amy talked 339 00:20:13,615 --> 00:20:16,255 about we have an ms4 permit for the 340 00:20:16,255 --> 00:20:19,290 city of St Joseph With that, we need 341 00:20:19,290 --> 00:20:23,690 annual inspection and reporting for the general permit 342 00:20:23,690 --> 00:20:29,210 for stormwater facilities. General permit section division four, 343 00:20:30,010 --> 00:20:33,815 section 25 through 97 basically says, hey, we 344 00:20:33,815 --> 00:20:36,855 can go inspect your stormwater BMP, and we 345 00:20:36,855 --> 00:20:41,335 will. So if you're curious about what the 346 00:20:41,335 --> 00:20:42,935 code says, if you're into that kind of 347 00:20:42,935 --> 00:20:45,575 thing, you can go look it up. Readily 348 00:20:45,575 --> 00:20:49,480 accessible if that's something you want to look 349 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,519 at for yourself. But all this says is 350 00:20:52,519 --> 00:20:56,200 that we can inspect your stormwater BMPs and 351 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:01,720 we're going to. So the MS4 permitting part 352 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:03,240 of your MS4 permit is you have to 353 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,245 write reports. They want to know what you're 354 00:21:06,245 --> 00:21:11,365 doing to maintain your MS4 system. Colleen writes 355 00:21:11,365 --> 00:21:14,565 a report every year. It's lovely, but she 356 00:21:14,565 --> 00:21:17,300 is required to report how they're meeting their 357 00:21:17,300 --> 00:21:21,460 requirements, how many inspections they do, what your 358 00:21:21,460 --> 00:21:26,420 inspections consists of. Even things like this, educational 359 00:21:26,420 --> 00:21:28,900 events, she will write about in her MS 360 00:21:28,900 --> 00:21:31,615 four report. So thank you for all attending 361 00:21:31,615 --> 00:21:34,335 this. We will get credit for this and 362 00:21:34,335 --> 00:21:37,615 this report. So that's great. But, yeah, the 363 00:21:37,615 --> 00:21:40,815 big thing is, like Amy said, documentation. We 364 00:21:40,815 --> 00:21:42,975 need to know what's out in the city. 365 00:21:42,975 --> 00:21:45,740 We need to know how it's functioning, and 366 00:21:45,740 --> 00:21:47,340 we need to have records of that because 367 00:21:47,340 --> 00:21:49,899 when you submit your report, they wanna know 368 00:21:49,980 --> 00:21:53,179 all of these numbers. They big fan of 369 00:21:53,179 --> 00:21:55,419 data, and they wanna know all of it. 370 00:21:57,100 --> 00:22:00,555 So these are some pictures because I'm trying 371 00:22:00,555 --> 00:22:02,235 to class this up a little bit, make 372 00:22:02,235 --> 00:22:05,595 it interesting. A couple of things that we 373 00:22:05,595 --> 00:22:08,715 talk about in these reports are, like, cleaning 374 00:22:08,715 --> 00:22:12,039 up after your pets. Like, did you put 375 00:22:12,039 --> 00:22:15,240 educational signs out saying, like, this leads to 376 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,840 pollution or how many illicit discharges did you 377 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,679 have that you had to clean up? That 378 00:22:20,679 --> 00:22:22,520 kind of thing. Is there a couch in 379 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,735 the river? I don't know. Did you have 380 00:22:26,735 --> 00:22:29,054 any leaks? That kind of thing. K. Let 381 00:22:29,054 --> 00:22:31,135 me build off of what she said. Mhmm. 382 00:22:31,375 --> 00:22:33,215 So I may be the one that's doing 383 00:22:33,215 --> 00:22:36,174 the reporting and helping facilitate our stormwater program 384 00:22:36,174 --> 00:22:37,950 here in the city of Saint Joseph, but 385 00:22:37,950 --> 00:22:39,870 it does take us as a city to 386 00:22:39,870 --> 00:22:41,710 be in compliance and to have good water 387 00:22:41,710 --> 00:22:44,510 quality. So whether you have kids or you 388 00:22:44,510 --> 00:22:46,350 have pets like we've covered, it's really good 389 00:22:46,350 --> 00:22:47,950 to make sure that we're making those smart 390 00:22:47,950 --> 00:22:51,095 decisions to keep everyone safe and for our 391 00:22:51,095 --> 00:22:52,535 kids to be able to play in creeks 392 00:22:52,535 --> 00:22:55,015 and streams as they continue to roll over. 393 00:22:55,015 --> 00:22:56,615 I for one love to play in creeks 394 00:22:56,615 --> 00:22:59,815 and streams, even as an adult, and I 395 00:22:59,815 --> 00:23:01,655 want them to be accessible and clean and 396 00:23:01,655 --> 00:23:03,655 healthy so I can continue to do that, 397 00:23:03,735 --> 00:23:05,335 as well as for all the babies out 398 00:23:05,335 --> 00:23:12,059 there. So thank you, guys. Yeah. Awesome. So 399 00:23:12,140 --> 00:23:15,260 why are inspections and maintenance records important? I'll 400 00:23:15,260 --> 00:23:19,740 go into that a little bit. So they're 401 00:23:19,740 --> 00:23:23,365 directly linked. Right? You need to know what's 402 00:23:23,365 --> 00:23:24,884 out there. You need to know what condition 403 00:23:24,884 --> 00:23:26,404 it's in. You need to know how that 404 00:23:26,404 --> 00:23:29,684 condition is changing year after year because, you 405 00:23:29,684 --> 00:23:31,845 know, things don't last forever. You need to 406 00:23:31,845 --> 00:23:35,530 replace things. You just need to know where 407 00:23:35,530 --> 00:23:37,929 your assets are and what condition they're in. 408 00:23:38,330 --> 00:23:42,010 Reporting also helps transfer knowledge when your property 409 00:23:42,010 --> 00:23:48,135 changes hands and ownership. This picture here is 410 00:23:48,135 --> 00:23:51,335 a facility that is directly upstream from a 411 00:23:51,335 --> 00:23:55,095 drinking water source. And you can see, well, 412 00:23:55,095 --> 00:23:57,414 all of these little arrows are where filter 413 00:23:57,414 --> 00:23:59,975 socks are, which is very important because it 414 00:23:59,975 --> 00:24:03,120 cleans up the water discharging off of this 415 00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:04,960 site before it goes into the drinking water 416 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:09,279 source. Now this property was sold. The new 417 00:24:09,279 --> 00:24:11,760 property owners did not know that they had 418 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,159 BMPs on-site. They did not know what these 419 00:24:14,159 --> 00:24:17,414 weird filter socks are. They did they just 420 00:24:17,414 --> 00:24:19,495 weren't aware of it. So as the years 421 00:24:19,495 --> 00:24:22,695 went on, they lost four of them. They 422 00:24:22,695 --> 00:24:25,015 never replaced them because they didn't know about 423 00:24:25,015 --> 00:24:27,495 them. And then that was impacting the drinking 424 00:24:27,495 --> 00:24:30,410 water downstream. And it's not because the owners 425 00:24:30,410 --> 00:24:33,210 didn't want to, they just didn't know about 426 00:24:33,210 --> 00:24:36,410 it. But if we had inspection forms, and 427 00:24:36,410 --> 00:24:38,169 this is not St. Joe, by the way, 428 00:24:38,330 --> 00:24:40,330 if we had inspection forms and we had 429 00:24:40,330 --> 00:24:43,850 that reporting and you could give a packet 430 00:24:44,075 --> 00:24:46,075 or a piece of paper to the next 431 00:24:46,075 --> 00:24:49,195 owner, you'd be like, oh, I should probably 432 00:24:49,195 --> 00:24:51,195 put some filter socks on this or something 433 00:24:51,195 --> 00:24:53,755 like that. And then you would have your 434 00:24:53,755 --> 00:24:56,810 protection for the drinking water downstream, and it 435 00:24:56,810 --> 00:24:58,970 wouldn't be a big deal so it's just 436 00:24:58,970 --> 00:25:03,210 like the knowledge is power type situation where 437 00:25:03,370 --> 00:25:05,370 you can't take care of something you don't 438 00:25:05,370 --> 00:25:08,490 know about so reporting and inspections help aid 439 00:25:08,490 --> 00:25:10,975 in that. Okay, and I have one thing 440 00:25:10,975 --> 00:25:14,575 to add to that, which is that Saint 441 00:25:14,575 --> 00:25:18,015 Joe does a really good job. The reason 442 00:25:18,015 --> 00:25:20,175 that few so few of my examples come 443 00:25:20,175 --> 00:25:23,290 from Saint Joe is a direct reflection on 444 00:25:23,290 --> 00:25:25,530 the terrific job that you all do for 445 00:25:25,530 --> 00:25:30,490 water quality in your city. I would just 446 00:25:30,490 --> 00:25:33,050 wanted to add that. Thanks, Caitlin. Yeah, of 447 00:25:33,050 --> 00:25:36,015 course. Is there any responsibility go through the 448 00:25:36,015 --> 00:25:40,095 title companies, property transfers, things that have been 449 00:25:40,095 --> 00:25:45,695 permitted legally through all this stuff, know, like 450 00:25:45,695 --> 00:25:50,760 with HOA and talking with HOA and then 451 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,919 when the owner of the properties are gone 452 00:25:52,919 --> 00:25:54,760 and gone, how's any of that ever is 453 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,520 there anything in place to transfer any of 454 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,559 input down the road? I don't think there 455 00:25:59,559 --> 00:26:03,495 is currently. Personally, I feel like there should 456 00:26:03,495 --> 00:26:05,174 be. Like, when you buy a house, you 457 00:26:05,174 --> 00:26:06,855 know, you have your, like, this is what 458 00:26:06,855 --> 00:26:10,455 you should disclose about the house. It we 459 00:26:10,455 --> 00:26:12,774 don't currently have anything like that set in 460 00:26:12,774 --> 00:26:16,390 place, but I would love to get there. 461 00:26:16,390 --> 00:26:20,309 Amy, Colleen, you wanna add In HOA, you 462 00:26:20,309 --> 00:26:23,270 have, you know, HOA fees. Those go to 463 00:26:23,270 --> 00:26:27,515 a pool. That maintains all the post construction 464 00:26:27,515 --> 00:26:31,755 stormwater BMPs that were built with that HOA. 465 00:26:32,715 --> 00:26:35,755 So that is the mechanism for maintenance for 466 00:26:35,755 --> 00:26:40,049 an HOA owned stormwater facility. But for a 467 00:26:40,049 --> 00:26:45,169 facility like the one in my slide, so 468 00:26:45,169 --> 00:26:47,570 that was, it's one of the very first 469 00:26:47,570 --> 00:26:49,650 water quality things I ever worked on when 470 00:26:49,650 --> 00:26:53,115 I was in EIT twenty years ago. And 471 00:26:53,355 --> 00:26:56,955 there were just, that warehouse changed hands and 472 00:26:56,955 --> 00:27:00,715 changed hands again. And there really was no 473 00:27:00,715 --> 00:27:06,795 mechanism for, for continued maintenance or even awareness 474 00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:08,880 that that this had been built with the 475 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:14,720 facility. And, you know, I don't. Obviously, I 476 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,039 wasn't involved in the sale or the title, 477 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,200 but I mean, that would have been one 478 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,885 way to to enforce it. The other way 479 00:27:21,885 --> 00:27:24,365 to enforce it is that if it were 480 00:27:24,365 --> 00:27:28,525 being inspected annually and they were required to 481 00:27:28,525 --> 00:27:30,605 give an annual report to the city, then 482 00:27:30,605 --> 00:27:33,900 at least the city would know, hey, we 483 00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:36,540 haven't gotten a report from you, why? And 484 00:27:36,540 --> 00:27:38,540 they would say, well, why would we give 485 00:27:38,540 --> 00:27:41,180 you a report? And that's the city's chance 486 00:27:41,180 --> 00:27:43,500 to say, well, because you have a facility 487 00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:46,815 on-site. And they say, a what on-site? Yeah. 488 00:27:46,815 --> 00:27:49,294 Then you go forward from there. It gives 489 00:27:49,294 --> 00:27:52,735 you a trigger, basically, and a reason to 490 00:27:52,735 --> 00:27:56,815 ask them for maintenance. Yeah. And like Amy 491 00:27:56,815 --> 00:28:00,600 said, we are going to be requiring the 492 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,919 inspection reports to be on file with the 493 00:28:02,919 --> 00:28:06,519 city. So Colleen will be reviewing them. Her 494 00:28:06,519 --> 00:28:08,600 team will be reviewing them. And if a 495 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,919 year goes by, two years go by, and 496 00:28:10,919 --> 00:28:13,825 you don't have an updated inspection report, the 497 00:28:13,825 --> 00:28:15,905 city can call that facility or go out 498 00:28:15,905 --> 00:28:18,145 to that facility and say, hey. This is 499 00:28:18,145 --> 00:28:22,145 what's going on to kind of, you know, 500 00:28:22,145 --> 00:28:23,985 get them back on track, tell them they 501 00:28:23,985 --> 00:28:25,665 have one if they don't know about it, 502 00:28:25,665 --> 00:28:27,790 that kind of thing. But to get back 503 00:28:27,790 --> 00:28:31,870 to your original questions or statement as far 504 00:28:31,870 --> 00:28:34,510 as like real estate and disclosure of it 505 00:28:34,510 --> 00:28:36,190 we don't have anything like that right now. 506 00:28:41,555 --> 00:28:45,715 So for inspections everyone kind of does it 507 00:28:45,715 --> 00:28:49,155 a little bit differently, but we want to 508 00:28:49,155 --> 00:28:52,275 track the inspection and maintenance forms we made 509 00:28:52,275 --> 00:28:57,100 forms they are sitting on your tables you 510 00:28:57,100 --> 00:28:58,860 don't have to look at them now but 511 00:28:58,860 --> 00:29:00,460 I made them so if you want to 512 00:29:00,460 --> 00:29:03,420 make me feel useful you can look at 513 00:29:03,420 --> 00:29:07,125 them but we would want if you're doing 514 00:29:07,125 --> 00:29:09,924 an inspection on a bmp on your property 515 00:29:10,164 --> 00:29:12,085 or you're the city and you're inspecting we 516 00:29:12,085 --> 00:29:14,565 want you guys to use these forms that 517 00:29:14,565 --> 00:29:17,684 way every inspection form is the same that 518 00:29:17,684 --> 00:29:19,684 comes back so we can build a database 519 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,960 we can have all the information that we're 520 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,040 really looking for and it kind of takes 521 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,120 the subjectivity out of it and so just 522 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,520 get better data and hopefully make it easier 523 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,000 for you guys if you're inspecting something because 524 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:34,760 we're telling you exactly what we want you 525 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:39,615 guys to look at. We also want pictures 526 00:29:39,615 --> 00:29:42,655 at the end of this packet. It says 527 00:29:42,655 --> 00:29:44,895 site plan and photos. We want you to 528 00:29:44,895 --> 00:29:47,455 take pictures and then just include it and 529 00:29:47,455 --> 00:29:50,820 then send this whole thing back to the 530 00:29:50,820 --> 00:29:53,940 city. And then the city will have record 531 00:29:53,940 --> 00:29:56,340 of it, city will hold on to it, 532 00:29:56,340 --> 00:29:58,660 and then each year we will know what 533 00:29:58,660 --> 00:30:01,540 state your VMP is in. I will put 534 00:30:01,540 --> 00:30:03,815 these on the city website as well as 535 00:30:03,815 --> 00:30:06,455 send our copies to everyone who's in attendance 536 00:30:06,455 --> 00:30:09,575 and people who are not in attendance that 537 00:30:09,575 --> 00:30:11,495 we don't have facilities that may or may 538 00:30:11,495 --> 00:30:14,054 not have made it today. So with these 539 00:30:14,054 --> 00:30:16,215 forms, don't have to try to remember to 540 00:30:16,215 --> 00:30:17,429 hold on to it, take it back, work, 541 00:30:17,429 --> 00:30:19,110 and make copies of it. You will have 542 00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:21,909 access to more of them. Yeah. And then 543 00:30:21,909 --> 00:30:24,230 we also made the definitions page as well. 544 00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:26,710 Yes. So that would be helpful when you're 545 00:30:26,710 --> 00:30:29,029 doing your inspection if you're confused about what 546 00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:30,789 word needs or if it applies to your 547 00:30:30,789 --> 00:30:33,895 facility. Yeah. So I printed off a couple 548 00:30:33,895 --> 00:30:36,215 of definition pages. I think they're sitting over 549 00:30:36,215 --> 00:30:39,255 on this table, but when Colleen puts this 550 00:30:39,255 --> 00:30:41,415 on the website, the definition page will be 551 00:30:41,415 --> 00:30:45,255 with it. So, yeah, if you have any 552 00:30:45,255 --> 00:30:47,970 questions on anything like what erosion is what 553 00:30:47,970 --> 00:30:51,650 scour is what we mean by I don't 554 00:30:51,650 --> 00:30:56,210 know anything it is there and defined. And 555 00:30:56,210 --> 00:30:58,995 the great thing about the definitions is that 556 00:30:58,995 --> 00:31:01,555 they do vary from person to person and 557 00:31:01,555 --> 00:31:06,434 from across the nation. And just yesterday, well, 558 00:31:06,595 --> 00:31:10,274 Caitlin and I talked about what's equipment and 559 00:31:10,275 --> 00:31:12,675 we had two different definitions for the same 560 00:31:13,260 --> 00:31:16,940 piece of equipment. It can happen even for 561 00:31:16,940 --> 00:31:19,020 people who work in the industry every day. 562 00:31:19,100 --> 00:31:21,820 That the definitions were really important. Thanks, Caitlin. 563 00:31:21,820 --> 00:31:26,380 Yeah. So when is maintenance required? So when 564 00:31:26,380 --> 00:31:29,565 you first build something new development when the 565 00:31:29,565 --> 00:31:32,365 BMP is installed and during the establishment period 566 00:31:32,365 --> 00:31:34,525 it's super important we want to make sure 567 00:31:34,605 --> 00:31:36,845 that the BMP was installed correctly and that 568 00:31:36,845 --> 00:31:41,050 it's functioning. Putting in a BMP is not 569 00:31:41,050 --> 00:31:43,450 helpful to anyone if it is not currently 570 00:31:43,450 --> 00:31:48,330 functioning. So during that establishment period, which is 571 00:31:48,330 --> 00:31:50,730 typically two to three years, you want to 572 00:31:50,730 --> 00:31:52,330 just keep eyes on it to make sure 573 00:31:52,330 --> 00:31:54,970 that it's growing the vegetation that it needs 574 00:31:54,970 --> 00:31:58,785 to. It's not like short circuiting anything like 575 00:31:58,785 --> 00:32:00,705 that and it's just how it's supposed to 576 00:32:00,705 --> 00:32:04,865 be. After rainfall events yesterday we got some 577 00:32:04,865 --> 00:32:06,625 rain I don't know if you guys knew 578 00:32:06,625 --> 00:32:09,905 that but after about two to three inches 579 00:32:09,905 --> 00:32:12,260 of rain you wanna go out and inspect 580 00:32:12,260 --> 00:32:16,500 your BMP. It rained really hard really fast 581 00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:18,740 yesterday, at least down in Kansas City where 582 00:32:18,740 --> 00:32:22,419 we live. It was it was a lot. 583 00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:25,220 And so we wanna just make sure that, 584 00:32:25,220 --> 00:32:29,185 like, rip rap didn't move or we didn't 585 00:32:29,185 --> 00:32:33,585 have mulch go everywhere or any kind of 586 00:32:33,585 --> 00:32:35,905 damage if you have like high winds or 587 00:32:35,905 --> 00:32:38,065 branches or things falling out like you just 588 00:32:38,065 --> 00:32:40,545 want to make sure it's still functioning after 589 00:32:40,545 --> 00:32:45,399 big weather events like that Oh short circuiting 590 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,160 short circuiting is when you like bypass your 591 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,640 pre treatment bypass your BMP and it just 592 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,120 kind of finds the path of least resistance 593 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:55,400 which is not where you want it to 594 00:32:55,400 --> 00:33:00,335 go. And then time we've been talking about 595 00:33:00,335 --> 00:33:04,174 doing this every year, so at least annually 596 00:33:04,815 --> 00:33:06,895 if not more often based on rain or 597 00:33:06,895 --> 00:33:09,294 if it's a new development things like that. 598 00:33:09,535 --> 00:33:12,735 And we have them due on December 1 599 00:33:12,735 --> 00:33:17,710 annually for the MS4 permits because pulling will 600 00:33:17,710 --> 00:33:20,669 write them in February, March? It's due the 601 00:33:20,669 --> 00:33:24,510 February. February. So we need all the inspections 602 00:33:24,510 --> 00:33:28,855 done by December 1 so we can put 603 00:33:28,855 --> 00:33:31,015 that all in the report for the EPA 604 00:33:31,015 --> 00:33:35,175 and the good thing about doing inspections then 605 00:33:35,255 --> 00:33:37,655 is it's after the growing season you're not 606 00:33:37,655 --> 00:33:40,450 having like active growth you can kind of 607 00:33:40,450 --> 00:33:43,250 see like if things have died back, if 608 00:33:43,250 --> 00:33:45,570 things need to be replanted, how your mulch 609 00:33:45,570 --> 00:33:49,090 is looking, so it just makes it a 610 00:33:49,090 --> 00:33:51,250 little bit easier when it's not actively growing 611 00:33:51,250 --> 00:33:53,010 you can see that the growing season's done. 612 00:33:53,524 --> 00:33:55,365 If you do have a native planting as 613 00:33:55,365 --> 00:33:58,085 a part of your BMP, I really recommend 614 00:33:58,085 --> 00:34:01,445 downloading an app like Seek or iNaturalist or 615 00:34:01,445 --> 00:34:02,885 one of those apps where you can look 616 00:34:02,885 --> 00:34:04,325 to see if you're not familiar with what 617 00:34:04,325 --> 00:34:06,725 native plants look like, taking pictures while you're 618 00:34:06,725 --> 00:34:08,324 out there to see what you have growing, 619 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,199 And then also doing that during the growing 620 00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:12,960 season because sometimes it can be really hard 621 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,119 to tell what something is after it started 622 00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:17,119 to die back. So you could say, my 623 00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:18,960 plants were out there not realizing that they 624 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,385 were none of the intended plants. Yeah. And 625 00:34:22,385 --> 00:34:24,304 for this picture I just think it's really 626 00:34:24,304 --> 00:34:29,264 interesting that there's that hole, there's that corrosion 627 00:34:29,425 --> 00:34:32,065 that's happening and it's not by the waterline. 628 00:34:32,224 --> 00:34:33,585 So you can tell it's coming from the 629 00:34:33,585 --> 00:34:37,280 lawn and the lawn chemicals used that got 630 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,760 in there or like a lawn mower clipped 631 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,280 it or something which is causing that so 632 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,040 I just thought that was interesting things like 633 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,159 that you kind of want to look for. 634 00:34:50,414 --> 00:34:54,654 Okay so if you get out your inspection 635 00:34:54,654 --> 00:34:58,255 forms that should be on your table I'm 636 00:34:58,255 --> 00:35:02,015 just going to go through pretty quickly what 637 00:35:02,015 --> 00:35:04,250 they entail and if you guys have any 638 00:35:04,250 --> 00:35:06,970 questions or anything just raise your hand or 639 00:35:06,970 --> 00:35:13,290 interrupt me that's fine as well. So the 640 00:35:13,290 --> 00:35:16,810 ones that you guys have are for buyer 641 00:35:16,810 --> 00:35:22,245 retention which I should probably rename to just 642 00:35:22,245 --> 00:35:25,365 say like green infrastructure, because this will be 643 00:35:25,365 --> 00:35:27,445 anything that is green. It is not for 644 00:35:27,445 --> 00:35:31,220 underground detention, it's for everything else. We have 645 00:35:31,220 --> 00:35:33,540 a separate underground detention form if you have 646 00:35:33,540 --> 00:35:37,620 an underground detention facility. Also will be available 647 00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:39,780 on the website, but we're just going to 648 00:35:39,780 --> 00:35:43,194 go through the bioretention one. So the first 649 00:35:43,194 --> 00:35:47,995 part up here, pretty simple. Your project name, 650 00:35:49,035 --> 00:35:54,555 your NPDES tracking number, location, date, time, who's 651 00:35:54,555 --> 00:35:58,220 doing the inspection, general contact information should be 652 00:35:58,220 --> 00:36:01,180 pretty easy to fill out. Your MPDS tracking 653 00:36:01,180 --> 00:36:04,060 number is the state land disturbance permit number 654 00:36:04,060 --> 00:36:07,500 that your project was issued. So some projects 655 00:36:07,500 --> 00:36:09,020 may not have that. And if you're not 656 00:36:09,020 --> 00:36:10,619 sure, we can help you find that number. 657 00:36:10,965 --> 00:36:12,965 Yes. Thank you. What did you say? What 658 00:36:12,965 --> 00:36:15,285 does it say? So if you have a 659 00:36:15,285 --> 00:36:17,845 project that is over an acre of land 660 00:36:17,845 --> 00:36:20,565 disturbance or common plan development, you have to 661 00:36:20,565 --> 00:36:22,805 get the state land disturbance permit before we 662 00:36:22,805 --> 00:36:25,400 will issue a city land service permit. And 663 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,120 it's called a Mora number. It's a very 664 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:33,960 operating permit something something. Uh-uh. But, yeah, so 665 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,040 it's the number on that permit that's issued 666 00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,760 to United States or the Department of Natural 667 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,575 Resources. Yes. We can look that up for 668 00:36:42,575 --> 00:36:45,855 you guys if you don't have it. So 669 00:36:45,855 --> 00:36:48,335 under this line, you have the BMP owner's 670 00:36:48,335 --> 00:36:51,789 name, BMP owner's contact information, just in case 671 00:36:51,789 --> 00:36:53,150 we need to contact you or if you 672 00:36:53,150 --> 00:36:55,710 have any questions, things like that, we can. 673 00:36:56,430 --> 00:36:59,230 Next type of d m or BMP detention 674 00:36:59,230 --> 00:37:03,630 pond, buyer attention, bioswale, just so we kind 675 00:37:03,630 --> 00:37:04,990 of know what we're looking at. And then 676 00:37:04,990 --> 00:37:08,295 at the bottom weather information, Like, today would 677 00:37:08,295 --> 00:37:11,015 be like, oh, beautiful day, partly cloudy. Last 678 00:37:11,015 --> 00:37:14,295 time it rained. Yesterday, how many inches you 679 00:37:14,295 --> 00:37:17,015 got of rain, that kind of thing. That's 680 00:37:17,015 --> 00:37:20,700 important to know because BMPs are designed to 681 00:37:20,700 --> 00:37:24,140 slowly release water within forty eight hours of 682 00:37:24,140 --> 00:37:28,620 the last rain so you know if there's 683 00:37:28,620 --> 00:37:30,620 standing water in it and it hasn't rained 684 00:37:30,620 --> 00:37:34,205 for six days we're like, oh, that's not 685 00:37:34,205 --> 00:37:36,125 great. We need to figure out what's going 686 00:37:36,125 --> 00:37:38,285 on. But if there's standing water in it 687 00:37:38,285 --> 00:37:41,005 today, we're like, yeah, that makes sense. It 688 00:37:41,005 --> 00:37:45,580 rained yesterday. So, it's important. A good resource 689 00:37:45,580 --> 00:37:48,140 for finding out rainfall amounts here locally in 690 00:37:48,140 --> 00:37:50,220 your extension is a weather station. If you 691 00:37:50,220 --> 00:37:54,780 just Google in your extension, Buchanan County, weather 692 00:37:54,780 --> 00:37:57,260 data, and it'll year to date, you can 693 00:37:57,260 --> 00:37:59,415 also look up historical rainfall amounts as well 694 00:37:59,415 --> 00:38:03,415 for the fill out here. Perfect. Thank you. 695 00:38:04,135 --> 00:38:08,775 Okay. So that's all just general information. Next, 696 00:38:08,775 --> 00:38:10,695 we're getting into some of the details. First, 697 00:38:10,695 --> 00:38:12,455 we want you to look at your inflow 698 00:38:12,455 --> 00:38:15,869 points and structures. And if this is just 699 00:38:15,869 --> 00:38:18,190 like, whoo, I have no idea what you're 700 00:38:18,190 --> 00:38:21,550 talking about, crazy lady, hopefully, it will make 701 00:38:21,550 --> 00:38:26,349 more sense. Amy's gonna go through some examples 702 00:38:26,349 --> 00:38:28,505 where we will have you guys talk through 703 00:38:28,505 --> 00:38:31,305 them, rank them, that kind of thing. So, 704 00:38:31,305 --> 00:38:33,465 hopefully, it'll start making sense when you're actually 705 00:38:33,465 --> 00:38:37,705 doing it. I get it's a it's kinda 706 00:38:37,705 --> 00:38:40,265 theoretical at this point, and so it's like, 707 00:38:40,265 --> 00:38:46,110 don't know what you're talking about. But oh, 708 00:38:46,110 --> 00:38:48,590 I'm getting all sorts of I'm just skipping 709 00:38:48,590 --> 00:38:52,750 the slides and just going. I think we 710 00:38:52,750 --> 00:38:55,630 all can figure out bio retention versus underground 711 00:38:55,630 --> 00:38:59,435 attention. Bio retention is everything above the ground, 712 00:38:59,435 --> 00:39:02,955 everything green, and underground attention is underground, and 713 00:39:02,955 --> 00:39:05,115 there are two different forms like I mentioned. 714 00:39:05,515 --> 00:39:10,395 So underground can be literally a giant container 715 00:39:10,395 --> 00:39:13,115 essentially that they put underground that their inlets 716 00:39:13,115 --> 00:39:15,890 flow into. Typically they have a wall or 717 00:39:15,890 --> 00:39:17,410 something in them where they pull back the 718 00:39:17,410 --> 00:39:20,529 water, let sediment, and any floatable settle out 719 00:39:20,529 --> 00:39:23,010 and then it has a discharge point downstream. 720 00:39:23,410 --> 00:39:25,250 We have a few of these facilities in 721 00:39:25,250 --> 00:39:27,730 town but yeah just imagine a giant container 722 00:39:27,730 --> 00:39:29,435 that could be the parking lot. Yeah it's 723 00:39:29,435 --> 00:39:32,795 like a big concrete box mostly and it 724 00:39:32,795 --> 00:39:35,915 is to hold back rain until the system 725 00:39:35,915 --> 00:39:38,155 can handle it downstream so it's just kind 726 00:39:38,155 --> 00:39:41,755 of a little storage box for water until 727 00:39:41,755 --> 00:39:43,355 the rest of the system can handle it. 728 00:39:44,820 --> 00:39:48,020 Okay, so going through the BMP components, there 729 00:39:48,020 --> 00:39:52,100 are different sections calling out each part of 730 00:39:52,100 --> 00:39:54,340 your BMP that needs to be checked. So 731 00:39:54,340 --> 00:39:59,085 we have inflow points structures pretreatment area, which 732 00:39:59,085 --> 00:40:03,645 would be your forebay, your grass swale, which 733 00:40:03,645 --> 00:40:06,365 are just areas that water flows through before 734 00:40:06,365 --> 00:40:09,325 you get to your main green infrastructure, your 735 00:40:09,325 --> 00:40:15,400 main BMP, your perimeter, your side slopes, the 736 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:20,280 bottom of the system, your outlet structure, your 737 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,240 overflow structure, and then some general other areas. 738 00:40:23,685 --> 00:40:26,245 So each of these sections is set up 739 00:40:26,245 --> 00:40:29,205 with a yes a no an na and 740 00:40:29,205 --> 00:40:33,205 a notes area so the thought process here 741 00:40:33,205 --> 00:40:34,565 is if you go and you look at 742 00:40:34,565 --> 00:40:37,930 your inflow structure and you're like it looks 743 00:40:37,930 --> 00:40:39,930 pretty good. I don't see any issues. There 744 00:40:39,930 --> 00:40:43,850 are no obstructions. There's no erosion. There's no 745 00:40:43,850 --> 00:40:47,690 riprap fabric matting issues. You just circle no 746 00:40:47,690 --> 00:40:50,075 for all of those. You give it a 747 00:40:50,075 --> 00:40:54,635 score of great, good, fair, fail, and then 748 00:40:54,635 --> 00:40:57,115 you move on to the next section. And 749 00:40:57,115 --> 00:41:00,875 if you wanna put notes and comments, that's 750 00:41:00,875 --> 00:41:03,660 definitely helpful as well. So the thought is 751 00:41:03,660 --> 00:41:06,220 just to go by each section fill out 752 00:41:06,220 --> 00:41:09,020 yes or no questions and then call it 753 00:41:09,020 --> 00:41:16,785 a day so, the overall BMP condition there 754 00:41:16,785 --> 00:41:21,425 is a reference matrix at the back where 755 00:41:21,425 --> 00:41:23,905 you have the overall rating, you have your 756 00:41:23,905 --> 00:41:27,105 description, and, like, an example comment. So if 757 00:41:27,105 --> 00:41:29,870 it was great, a rating of great, you're 758 00:41:29,870 --> 00:41:33,470 like, this BMP is awesome. It looks amazing. 759 00:41:33,470 --> 00:41:36,430 There's nothing I would change. That would be 760 00:41:36,430 --> 00:41:39,150 a great. If it's good, it'd be like, 761 00:41:39,150 --> 00:41:42,190 well, it's functioning, but, like, maybe there's some 762 00:41:42,190 --> 00:41:43,870 trash there. Like, I need to pick up 763 00:41:43,870 --> 00:41:47,625 this plastic bag or this bottle or something. 764 00:41:48,184 --> 00:41:50,984 Fair would be, like, maybe some of the 765 00:41:50,984 --> 00:41:53,065 function is impaired. We should probably do some 766 00:41:53,065 --> 00:41:54,825 maintenance on this to get it back to, 767 00:41:54,825 --> 00:41:56,424 like, the higher level it needs to be, 768 00:41:56,900 --> 00:41:59,700 but it's still functioning somewhat. And then fail 769 00:41:59,700 --> 00:42:02,660 would be, like, it's just not functioning. There's 770 00:42:02,740 --> 00:42:05,780 invasives all over the place. It needs some 771 00:42:05,780 --> 00:42:08,500 serious work. So you can use that reference 772 00:42:08,500 --> 00:42:11,380 matrix to kind of gauge where your BMP 773 00:42:11,380 --> 00:42:14,835 is at as you're ranking it. So and 774 00:42:14,835 --> 00:42:17,395 then at the end here, you have additional 775 00:42:17,395 --> 00:42:20,275 comments and then site plan and photos that 776 00:42:20,275 --> 00:42:22,835 you can add. Yeah. I do wanna point 777 00:42:22,835 --> 00:42:26,195 out that if you do your inspection well, 778 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,840 when you do your inspection this year, if 779 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,880 your BNP, you feel like it's failing or 780 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:36,360 meets the failing, overall condition, that does not 781 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,174 mean we're going to start doing enforcement or 782 00:42:39,174 --> 00:42:41,015 you're not going to get in trouble. This 783 00:42:41,015 --> 00:42:43,015 is to assess how our BNPs are on 784 00:42:43,015 --> 00:42:44,934 our property and they give us a baseline 785 00:42:44,934 --> 00:42:46,615 on where we need to go to start 786 00:42:46,615 --> 00:42:50,375 maintaining them and maintain them correctly. So that's 787 00:42:50,375 --> 00:42:51,895 why also why I want pictures. We're not 788 00:42:51,895 --> 00:42:53,255 gonna get mad at you if it's failing. 789 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,079 We want to know what the condition of 790 00:42:55,079 --> 00:42:57,400 it is and then help you get to 791 00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,839 where it needs to be so that it's 792 00:42:58,839 --> 00:43:01,480 protecting our water quality functioning as designed and 793 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,680 maintained. Yeah and if you have questions on 794 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,119 what you need to do with your BMP 795 00:43:06,119 --> 00:43:08,735 after the inspection, you're like well feel like 796 00:43:08,735 --> 00:43:10,415 I need more plants or things like that 797 00:43:10,415 --> 00:43:13,855 you can contact water protection and we'll be 798 00:43:13,855 --> 00:43:17,055 happy to help you guys reestablish your BMP 799 00:43:17,055 --> 00:43:19,135 so it's functioning as it should. And there 800 00:43:19,135 --> 00:43:22,020 are we put out a few years ago 801 00:43:22,020 --> 00:43:23,780 I printed some off for different types of 802 00:43:23,780 --> 00:43:26,580 BMPs, it kind of boasts of general maintenance 803 00:43:26,580 --> 00:43:28,340 what they are how they're supposed to function 804 00:43:28,340 --> 00:43:29,860 things like that and there are lot of 805 00:43:29,860 --> 00:43:32,500 resources online as well as myself and my 806 00:43:32,500 --> 00:43:34,100 team so we'll help out as much as 807 00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:38,865 possible. Okay. Going into operation and maintenance documents. 808 00:43:40,865 --> 00:43:43,664 So we should all have operation and maintenance 809 00:43:43,664 --> 00:43:45,744 documents for all of our BMPs that we 810 00:43:45,744 --> 00:43:49,950 have. The owner should have a copy, and 811 00:43:49,950 --> 00:43:52,190 ms four operator should have a copy should 812 00:43:52,190 --> 00:43:57,470 be all electronic and then the city will 813 00:43:57,470 --> 00:44:00,110 also have copies of all your inspection reports 814 00:44:00,830 --> 00:44:10,424 with that same thing, O and M document 815 00:44:10,424 --> 00:44:12,825 requirements with your inspection forms. You need to 816 00:44:12,825 --> 00:44:16,150 know who's inspecting them and what the findings 817 00:44:16,150 --> 00:44:18,870 are. And so, like, you would just want 818 00:44:18,870 --> 00:44:21,750 your inspection form to be with your O 819 00:44:21,750 --> 00:44:25,110 and M documents. So if you have, you 820 00:44:25,110 --> 00:44:26,950 know, your O and M documents saved on 821 00:44:27,185 --> 00:44:29,505 your computer in a file just keep your 822 00:44:29,505 --> 00:44:31,825 electronic copy in the same folder on your 823 00:44:31,825 --> 00:44:33,984 computer so it's all in the same area 824 00:44:33,984 --> 00:44:35,425 so when we need to look at it 825 00:44:35,425 --> 00:44:41,585 we can. Very similar type data that you 826 00:44:41,585 --> 00:44:44,760 would need. The O and M documents are 827 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:49,880 your plan for maintaining your BMP and your 828 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,880 inspection forms are how it's actually being maintained 829 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:59,965 and how it's ranked We also for o 830 00:44:59,965 --> 00:45:02,765 and m document requirements, we want information on 831 00:45:02,765 --> 00:45:07,485 follow-up actions and enforcement actions. As Colleen said, 832 00:45:07,485 --> 00:45:09,325 we're not gonna start enforcing things right away. 833 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:11,360 We're not going to get mad at you 834 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,600 if your BMP is not quite where it 835 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:16,320 should be but we do want you to 836 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,240 make a plan what you need to do 837 00:45:18,240 --> 00:45:20,400 to bring it back up to functioning where 838 00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,840 it is and then how you plan to 839 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,595 do that and by when. So we want 840 00:45:26,595 --> 00:45:28,435 dates of like, hey, I'm going to be 841 00:45:28,435 --> 00:45:31,315 replanting in the spring with x y and 842 00:45:31,315 --> 00:45:34,595 z plants or something like that with photos 843 00:45:34,595 --> 00:45:37,350 documentation when you do those things. So it's 844 00:45:37,350 --> 00:45:40,470 really just documenting all of your actions so 845 00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:43,990 we have all the documentation. Make a photo 846 00:45:43,990 --> 00:45:48,390 comment? Absolutely. Okay. So in this photo, we 847 00:45:48,390 --> 00:45:51,475 have inlet scour, and it's not real evident 848 00:45:51,475 --> 00:45:54,835 because they took it in a corrective action 849 00:45:55,155 --> 00:45:59,475 of putting old fence posts. That's the rounded 850 00:45:59,475 --> 00:46:02,275 things that you see in the background there. 851 00:46:02,275 --> 00:46:05,330 They put old fence posts instead of riprap 852 00:46:05,330 --> 00:46:08,690 to try to stabilize that inlet scour. And 853 00:46:08,690 --> 00:46:11,650 the issue with that is it's not, it 854 00:46:11,650 --> 00:46:14,930 doesn't really bring it back to before it 855 00:46:14,930 --> 00:46:19,645 was damaged. You know, the fence post ends, 856 00:46:19,725 --> 00:46:23,165 that waste time kind of rolls around, whereas 857 00:46:23,405 --> 00:46:26,845 riprap really works all together. It has bedding, 858 00:46:26,925 --> 00:46:31,320 it has geotextile beneath it, The gradation of 859 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:35,720 the ripraptinal locks itself together. Old fence posts 860 00:46:35,720 --> 00:46:38,920 don't do that. So that's what we're asking 861 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:43,080 for your corrective or follow-up actions. It's not 862 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,320 to knock anyone down, it's just to make 863 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,474 sure that those maintenance items really truly address 864 00:46:49,474 --> 00:46:52,035 the inlet scour before we get a failure. 865 00:46:52,035 --> 00:46:54,915 So that's pretty new concrete that wasn't cheap. 866 00:46:55,875 --> 00:46:58,194 We want to make sure that it hangs 867 00:46:58,194 --> 00:47:01,510 together for you. Yeah. And as we've mentioned 868 00:47:01,510 --> 00:47:05,510 multiple times, pictures worth a thousand words. Take 869 00:47:05,510 --> 00:47:07,910 pictures of your sites, submit them with your 870 00:47:07,910 --> 00:47:11,349 inspection forms. I'm sure Pauline is going to 871 00:47:11,349 --> 00:47:13,109 have a great filing system for all of 872 00:47:13,109 --> 00:47:16,875 your pictures that you send her. So yeah 873 00:47:17,115 --> 00:47:21,035 just make sure you take pictures. All right 874 00:47:21,035 --> 00:47:23,035 we are almost done you guys have been 875 00:47:23,035 --> 00:47:25,995 great. We are going to go through some 876 00:47:25,995 --> 00:47:30,330 practice inspection forms, to hopefully make it a 877 00:47:30,330 --> 00:47:32,250 little bit easier when we ask you guys 878 00:47:32,250 --> 00:47:35,450 to go do this. Amy, would you like 879 00:47:35,450 --> 00:47:39,770 to start? Sure. Yeah. This first one here 880 00:47:39,770 --> 00:47:43,485 is an infiltration basin. And all of them 881 00:47:43,485 --> 00:47:45,485 here, we are going to use the bioretention 882 00:47:45,485 --> 00:47:47,885 form. We're not doing an underground detention one, 883 00:47:47,885 --> 00:47:52,525 so we'll all be in the bioretention. So 884 00:47:52,525 --> 00:47:54,850 I'm gonna use my my cursor to kind 885 00:47:54,850 --> 00:47:57,810 of point at what I'm inspecting here. And, 886 00:47:58,050 --> 00:47:59,490 and some of it is going to come 887 00:47:59,490 --> 00:48:01,090 from my memory. So you're going to have 888 00:48:01,090 --> 00:48:02,690 to trust me on some of this because 889 00:48:02,690 --> 00:48:04,530 I really only have this one picture of 890 00:48:04,530 --> 00:48:07,410 the facility. The inlet looks great to me. 891 00:48:07,410 --> 00:48:12,375 I don't see scour. The pretreatment area that 892 00:48:12,375 --> 00:48:15,494 would be like this side or or maybe 893 00:48:15,494 --> 00:48:17,974 this end looks fine to me too. I 894 00:48:17,974 --> 00:48:23,970 don't see erosion undercutting. I don't see debris 895 00:48:23,970 --> 00:48:27,970 sediment accumulated here. So it looks I I 896 00:48:27,970 --> 00:48:29,730 sport it as a great on the inflow 897 00:48:29,730 --> 00:48:32,530 point and the pretreatment area. I also give 898 00:48:32,530 --> 00:48:36,415 it a great. Unwanted vegetation. I think I 899 00:48:36,415 --> 00:48:40,255 noted that there are 5% weed cover. All 900 00:48:40,255 --> 00:48:47,535 this over here. Moving on the perimeter side 901 00:48:47,535 --> 00:48:51,700 slopes, the embankment. I noted the weeds again, 902 00:48:51,700 --> 00:48:54,420 but I said overall it looks great. The 903 00:48:54,420 --> 00:48:57,539 bottom of the system. The bottom of the 904 00:48:57,539 --> 00:49:00,260 system, I didn't note that there was any 905 00:49:00,260 --> 00:49:05,055 trash like floatables, old bottles. I didn't see 906 00:49:05,055 --> 00:49:10,494 any bare ground or excess sedimentation that was 907 00:49:10,494 --> 00:49:14,655 clogging this gravel. So I I thought it 908 00:49:14,655 --> 00:49:18,734 looked great. And then on the let's see. 909 00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:21,119 For the outlet structure, you're gonna have to 910 00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:22,800 take my word on this one because it 911 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:24,640 drained that way and I didn't get it 912 00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,920 in the photo. But the outlet structure, I 913 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,240 didn't see any scour around it. I didn't 914 00:49:30,240 --> 00:49:33,680 see any sediment or debris in the pipe. 915 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,695 I didn't see displacement of the of the 916 00:49:36,695 --> 00:49:41,975 decorative, pretty decorative gravel or riprap. And I 917 00:49:41,975 --> 00:49:45,495 didn't see displacement of the vegetation or any 918 00:49:45,495 --> 00:49:49,095 of the measures. And the outlet flow structure 919 00:49:49,095 --> 00:49:52,230 itself. Again, I rated it great. I didn't 920 00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:58,310 see anything there. And in general, it is 921 00:49:58,310 --> 00:50:03,165 not access restricted. So, I really like my 922 00:50:03,165 --> 00:50:07,085 green BMPs to have restricted access. I don't 923 00:50:07,085 --> 00:50:09,805 want the lawnmower man to come in here 924 00:50:09,965 --> 00:50:13,565 and mow everything. I've actually seen them fail 925 00:50:13,565 --> 00:50:15,325 that way. And it's always kind of sad. 926 00:50:16,750 --> 00:50:19,310 I guess it's somewhat access restricted by the 927 00:50:19,310 --> 00:50:24,270 curb. So that's good. I did not see. 928 00:50:25,150 --> 00:50:27,310 I do not know what the original proof 929 00:50:27,310 --> 00:50:28,990 plan is for this one, so I couldn't 930 00:50:28,990 --> 00:50:32,035 really score that. But overall, I gave it 931 00:50:32,035 --> 00:50:33,795 a great. Other than a little bit of 932 00:50:33,795 --> 00:50:36,195 weediness over in the corner, it looked pretty 933 00:50:36,195 --> 00:50:40,115 good to me overall. And so my, at 934 00:50:40,115 --> 00:50:43,490 the bottom, the reference matrix, I would have 935 00:50:43,490 --> 00:50:45,490 rated it great and said, it looks the 936 00:50:45,490 --> 00:50:47,250 best it can be. You don't really need 937 00:50:47,250 --> 00:50:51,410 to do anything well done. I'm going to 938 00:50:51,410 --> 00:50:53,329 move on to the next one and inspect 939 00:50:53,329 --> 00:50:56,130 it. So, these inspections don't have to take 940 00:50:56,130 --> 00:50:58,964 a ton of time. It shouldn't be a 941 00:50:58,964 --> 00:51:02,244 lengthy exercise. I'm asking you to like I 942 00:51:02,244 --> 00:51:05,204 do not need a dissertation. All day to 943 00:51:05,204 --> 00:51:07,365 look at your BMC. Just, you know, we 944 00:51:07,365 --> 00:51:09,045 want you to have your eyes on it. 945 00:51:09,285 --> 00:51:11,365 Just be aware of what's going on. We 946 00:51:11,365 --> 00:51:12,885 do ask that you have boots on the 947 00:51:12,885 --> 00:51:14,860 ground. Don't just, like, grab on to take 948 00:51:14,860 --> 00:51:17,100 a picture, like, get out, walk around. Yeah. 949 00:51:17,100 --> 00:51:20,060 Look at your inflow, your outflow. Make sure 950 00:51:20,060 --> 00:51:22,380 you can see the bottom clearly. Boots on 951 00:51:22,380 --> 00:51:24,940 the ground is always good just to really 952 00:51:24,940 --> 00:51:26,540 get a view and an idea of what's 953 00:51:26,540 --> 00:51:29,085 going on out there. And the form pretty 954 00:51:29,085 --> 00:51:31,245 much reflects that. I mean, it talks about 955 00:51:31,245 --> 00:51:34,125 the inlet, the outlet, the bottom, the sides. 956 00:51:34,605 --> 00:51:38,605 The form really does assume that you've inspected 957 00:51:38,605 --> 00:51:43,280 the whole facility with your feet. So let's 958 00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,240 look at the inflow point first. I rated 959 00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:48,960 it fair. You'll have to kind of take 960 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:50,640 my word for it, but I see about 961 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,600 four inches of scour at the inlet here. 962 00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:59,295 I noted erosion and undercutting. I noted four 963 00:51:59,295 --> 00:52:02,575 inches of scour at the inlet here. In 964 00:52:02,575 --> 00:52:06,415 the pretreatment area, which was over here where 965 00:52:06,415 --> 00:52:09,455 if you can see my cursor, I noted 966 00:52:09,455 --> 00:52:14,279 sediment and debris accumulation. I noted erosion on 967 00:52:14,279 --> 00:52:16,920 the side well, right here in the forebay. 968 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:22,200 I noted unwanted vegetation. It was pretty weedy. 969 00:52:22,839 --> 00:52:27,575 I noticed no bypassing or short cutting. It 970 00:52:27,575 --> 00:52:30,455 does appear that everything that was designed to 971 00:52:30,455 --> 00:52:33,495 flow to the facility is still getting there. 972 00:52:33,895 --> 00:52:35,815 That was good. And then I noted the 973 00:52:35,815 --> 00:52:37,975 vegetation. There's some cattails in the bottom of 974 00:52:37,975 --> 00:52:42,130 it. Moving on to the side slopes, I 975 00:52:42,130 --> 00:52:46,130 rated those fair. I do not see the 976 00:52:46,130 --> 00:52:48,370 kind of establishment that I would hope for 977 00:52:48,370 --> 00:52:51,490 on the side slopes here after five years. 978 00:52:52,085 --> 00:52:55,765 Within five years, I would expect 100% establishment 979 00:52:55,765 --> 00:53:00,325 of these side slopes here. I noted debris 980 00:53:00,325 --> 00:53:05,220 and accumulation or accumulation of sediment. I did 981 00:53:05,220 --> 00:53:07,540 not note a lot of erosion on the 982 00:53:07,540 --> 00:53:09,940 side slopes. It does appear like the side 983 00:53:09,940 --> 00:53:13,780 slopes aren't experiencing erosion. I do see some 984 00:53:13,780 --> 00:53:17,300 unwanted vegetation. I'm pretty sure these willows were 985 00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:23,005 not purposely planted there. Willows aren't a huge 986 00:53:23,005 --> 00:53:27,405 problem, though. And then I just said, overall 987 00:53:27,405 --> 00:53:31,085 fair condition, poor establishment on the side slopes. 988 00:53:32,420 --> 00:53:34,420 I next rated the bottom of the system. 989 00:53:34,420 --> 00:53:37,380 I rated it fair. I noted some kind 990 00:53:37,380 --> 00:53:41,220 of weedy, unwanted vegetation. I noticed some sediment 991 00:53:41,220 --> 00:53:47,140 accumulation. I noticed some evidence of inadequate drainage, 992 00:53:47,465 --> 00:53:50,665 So I'm guessing that this bare spot here 993 00:53:50,665 --> 00:53:53,865 was because there's probably usually some water that 994 00:53:53,865 --> 00:53:56,905 sits there. It's meant to be dried tension. 995 00:53:57,385 --> 00:54:00,905 If you have basin with a permanent pool, 996 00:54:00,905 --> 00:54:05,060 obviously that's fine. Let's see. And then I 997 00:54:05,060 --> 00:54:07,620 noted that there was some bare ground and 998 00:54:07,620 --> 00:54:09,700 erosion over here. You can see it in 999 00:54:09,700 --> 00:54:12,180 this part of the photo. And so I 1000 00:54:12,180 --> 00:54:14,660 said that it was fair and then I 1001 00:54:14,660 --> 00:54:18,605 estimated about six inches of sediment sitting in 1002 00:54:18,605 --> 00:54:21,805 the bottom of this thing. It may never 1003 00:54:21,805 --> 00:54:24,125 have been cleaned out after being used as 1004 00:54:24,125 --> 00:54:28,125 a temporary sediment thing. The outlet structure looked 1005 00:54:28,125 --> 00:54:30,780 great to me. I didn't see any obstructions 1006 00:54:30,780 --> 00:54:33,340 on it. I took a peek inside. I 1007 00:54:33,340 --> 00:54:37,180 didn't see any chunks of Styrofoam or card 1008 00:54:37,180 --> 00:54:39,580 mats or anything like that in there. You 1009 00:54:39,580 --> 00:54:41,660 never know. I've seen some really wild things 1010 00:54:41,660 --> 00:54:44,595 inside of an outlet structure. I didn't see 1011 00:54:44,595 --> 00:54:49,475 any erosion around this part, the supporting part. 1012 00:54:50,195 --> 00:54:53,555 I did not note anything else. It looked 1013 00:54:53,555 --> 00:54:56,195 great to me. Rated the outlet structure great, 1014 00:54:56,275 --> 00:55:00,170 and the overflow structure as well. Caitlin has 1015 00:55:00,170 --> 00:55:04,089 this separated on the form just to point 1016 00:55:04,089 --> 00:55:06,490 this out because the outlet structure is where 1017 00:55:06,490 --> 00:55:10,730 my cursor is, see. But the overflow structure 1018 00:55:10,730 --> 00:55:13,664 is the path when the outlet structure is 1019 00:55:13,664 --> 00:55:17,265 overwhelmed by a big event. Where's the overflow 1020 00:55:17,265 --> 00:55:19,424 structure? Like, where does it go next? So 1021 00:55:19,424 --> 00:55:22,305 that's what that's referring to. So that was 1022 00:55:22,305 --> 00:55:25,184 this, a swale that you can just barely 1023 00:55:25,184 --> 00:55:28,710 see in my photo. And, it had good 1024 00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:33,750 establishment. I rated it great. Enough said. In 1025 00:55:33,750 --> 00:55:37,270 general, I did not find that they accessed, 1026 00:55:38,230 --> 00:55:40,595 that there was any restricted access to it. 1027 00:55:40,595 --> 00:55:43,954 You could theoretically, I suppose, mow it. That 1028 00:55:43,954 --> 00:55:47,954 wouldn't be super desirable, though. But it doesn't 1029 00:55:47,954 --> 00:55:51,075 have a permanent pool. So maybe they wanted 1030 00:55:51,075 --> 00:55:53,875 to leave it unfenced. Don't really have a 1031 00:55:53,875 --> 00:55:57,770 problem with that. I did find evidence that 1032 00:55:57,770 --> 00:56:00,170 maintenance hasn't been conducted since it was built 1033 00:56:00,170 --> 00:56:03,290 five years ago. And I based that on 1034 00:56:03,290 --> 00:56:07,050 the scour at the outlet, the loss of 1035 00:56:07,050 --> 00:56:11,415 riprap, and just the general condition of the 1036 00:56:11,415 --> 00:56:16,055 vegetation and the and the sediment accumulation. So 1037 00:56:16,055 --> 00:56:19,335 overall, I rated it fair, and I noted 1038 00:56:19,335 --> 00:56:21,974 that the inlet end section failure due to 1039 00:56:21,974 --> 00:56:26,130 scour here and the loss of the riprap. 1040 00:56:27,170 --> 00:56:29,490 I noted trash needs to be removed. It 1041 00:56:29,490 --> 00:56:32,130 needs to be weeded, damaged to the inflow 1042 00:56:32,130 --> 00:56:37,810 pipe. If I were turning this in every 1043 00:56:37,810 --> 00:56:41,935 year, then I would know exactly when this 1044 00:56:42,255 --> 00:56:45,215 end section failed. So it wouldn't be any 1045 00:56:45,215 --> 00:56:47,455 kind of mystery to me as to how 1046 00:56:47,455 --> 00:56:49,455 long the design lasted from when it was 1047 00:56:49,455 --> 00:56:51,855 built. If I'm taking photos of it every 1048 00:56:51,855 --> 00:56:53,695 year, I can look back and say, Oh, 1049 00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:56,440 well, last year this thing was fine. There 1050 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:57,880 might have been a big storm or something 1051 00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:04,440 that damaged it. Yep, there is one more. 1052 00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:10,325 So inflow, the rain garden looks great. I 1053 00:57:10,325 --> 00:57:15,365 didn't see any loss of riprap erosion. I 1054 00:57:15,365 --> 00:57:18,805 didn't see any obstruction, anything obstructing water from 1055 00:57:18,805 --> 00:57:22,980 getting into the rain garden. The pretreatment area 1056 00:57:23,220 --> 00:57:26,340 that would be up here, I think. It 1057 00:57:26,340 --> 00:57:27,860 looks good to me. I don't see any 1058 00:57:27,860 --> 00:57:34,994 sediment accumulation. The perimeter and side slopes. I 1059 00:57:34,994 --> 00:57:38,194 didn't note any erosion of this area here 1060 00:57:38,194 --> 00:57:44,675 that slopes into the subgrade. I not note 1061 00:57:45,154 --> 00:57:46,434 that I thought the bottom of the system 1062 00:57:46,434 --> 00:57:50,310 looked good too. There's mulch covering anywhere there's 1063 00:57:50,310 --> 00:57:54,150 not plants, so there's no bare soil. I 1064 00:57:54,150 --> 00:57:57,350 didn't see any areas where water was obviously 1065 00:57:57,350 --> 00:57:59,750 standing and should not. So I think it's 1066 00:57:59,750 --> 00:58:04,355 probably infiltrating pretty well. And I noted that 1067 00:58:04,355 --> 00:58:08,115 the mulch adequately protects the soil. So if 1068 00:58:08,115 --> 00:58:09,795 we want to replant in the middle there, 1069 00:58:09,795 --> 00:58:12,755 we can. But in the meantime, the mulch 1070 00:58:12,755 --> 00:58:16,850 is doing its job. Moving on to the 1071 00:58:16,850 --> 00:58:20,130 outlet. This picture came from the city and 1072 00:58:20,130 --> 00:58:22,370 I didn't have pictures of the outlet, so 1073 00:58:22,370 --> 00:58:25,010 I made up stuff. I just said it's 1074 00:58:25,010 --> 00:58:28,345 great, probably is great. The outflow structure too 1075 00:58:28,345 --> 00:58:31,705 looked great to me. And then in general, 1076 00:58:31,705 --> 00:58:36,105 I gave this BMP a great overall condition. 1077 00:58:36,505 --> 00:58:38,425 I said it looks the best that it 1078 00:58:38,425 --> 00:58:40,745 can be and nothing needs to be addressed 1079 00:58:40,745 --> 00:58:44,290 or changed. I did say that it wasn't 1080 00:58:44,290 --> 00:58:49,570 access restricted, but it appears that there's enough 1081 00:58:49,570 --> 00:58:53,250 of a landscape barrier that it's not really 1082 00:58:53,250 --> 00:58:56,130 vulnerable to mowing. One of the biggest failures 1083 00:58:56,405 --> 00:58:58,964 that I find with rain gardens is having 1084 00:58:58,964 --> 00:59:01,925 them accidentally be mowed. And I will say 1085 00:59:01,925 --> 00:59:07,125 what what we mean by access restricted. The 1086 00:59:07,685 --> 00:59:10,740 big thing would be, is someone going to 1087 00:59:10,740 --> 00:59:13,140 accidentally mow over it? Are you gonna be 1088 00:59:13,140 --> 00:59:15,700 like, wow, there are a lot of weeds 1089 00:59:15,700 --> 00:59:17,780 and grass. It's really tall. We should mow 1090 00:59:17,780 --> 00:59:20,500 that. Why did someone let this go? That 1091 00:59:20,500 --> 00:59:23,145 happens a lot. So we like to have 1092 00:59:23,145 --> 00:59:24,905 a little bit of a barrier, whether it's 1093 00:59:24,905 --> 00:59:27,785 the rocks, things like that. Just something that 1094 00:59:27,785 --> 00:59:30,745 indicates, like, don't actually mow it, don't go 1095 00:59:30,745 --> 00:59:34,105 in there. If it is a wet retention 1096 00:59:34,105 --> 00:59:36,905 pond, something like that that has a permanent 1097 00:59:36,940 --> 00:59:40,300 pool of water, we want, you know, more 1098 00:59:40,300 --> 00:59:43,180 access restriction like fences and stuff. We don't 1099 00:59:43,180 --> 00:59:47,260 want kids falling in to a pond or 1100 00:59:47,260 --> 00:59:50,540 anything like that. But we don't necessarily mean, 1101 00:59:50,540 --> 00:59:52,185 like, there has to be a fence around 1102 00:59:52,185 --> 00:59:55,385 every facility. It just, you know, needs to 1103 00:59:55,385 --> 00:59:58,105 be obvious enough that this is actually a 1104 00:59:58,105 --> 01:00:01,945 stormwater facility, stormwater asset that we're not going 1105 01:00:01,945 --> 01:00:06,089 to just mow over, ignore. But then now 1106 01:00:06,089 --> 01:00:07,930 we have the safety concerns too if there 1107 01:00:07,930 --> 01:00:12,089 is standing shelter. And with that, I'll open 1108 01:00:12,089 --> 01:00:17,609 it up to questions. Our friends that are 1109 01:00:17,609 --> 01:00:23,135 joining us virtually, I'm watching the chat more 1110 01:00:23,135 --> 01:00:26,655 closely. Don't see any questions from the chat, 1111 01:00:26,655 --> 01:00:29,855 but I'd like to take some time and 1112 01:00:29,855 --> 01:00:32,015 answer any questions that you might have or 1113 01:00:32,015 --> 01:00:36,560 even just discuss stormwater concerns that you are 1114 01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,360 thinking about. I mean, we we have time. 1115 01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:42,240 So a question or even just a discussion 1116 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,000 that someone would like to open up would 1117 01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,965 be, this is the time for it. Will 1118 01:00:46,965 --> 01:00:49,685 all the inspection forms be paper or will 1119 01:00:49,685 --> 01:00:51,685 the in the future be like, we're driving 1120 01:00:51,685 --> 01:00:53,925 just put down a link, fill it out, 1121 01:00:53,925 --> 01:00:57,125 submit it with the pictures attached? We would 1122 01:00:57,125 --> 01:00:58,805 like it to not be paper if it's 1123 01:00:58,805 --> 01:01:02,090 there. So we are trying to build it 1124 01:01:02,090 --> 01:01:04,490 database to where it it will be all 1125 01:01:04,730 --> 01:01:09,610 electronic. You can type your, you know, inspection 1126 01:01:09,690 --> 01:01:12,010 information on it, submit the pictures with it, 1127 01:01:12,010 --> 01:01:14,694 and then just upload it all. I don't 1128 01:01:14,694 --> 01:01:16,295 know if it'll be Google Drive. I don't 1129 01:01:16,295 --> 01:01:18,214 know if it'll be a database that the 1130 01:01:18,214 --> 01:01:21,734 city maintains or anything like that. But, yes, 1131 01:01:21,734 --> 01:01:23,895 we are trying to move to the electronic 1132 01:01:23,895 --> 01:01:29,015 versions only. The paper forms here are just 1133 01:01:29,015 --> 01:01:33,280 to, you know, start some. And we could 1134 01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,920 do a PDF format too in the in 1135 01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,200 the meantime. Yeah. Like it's it's notable PDF. 1136 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:45,119 But, yeah, the the paper was just a 1137 01:01:45,119 --> 01:01:49,495 little easier to give everyone. Also, really need 1138 01:01:49,495 --> 01:01:57,735 to staple 40 coffees. Yeah. Caitlin loves using 1139 01:01:57,735 --> 01:02:00,940 her master's degree staple paper. Yep. So do 1140 01:02:00,940 --> 01:02:02,540 I. I went to the school for this. 1141 01:02:06,300 --> 01:02:13,660 Any other questions? Comments? Yep. For a newer 1142 01:02:13,660 --> 01:02:15,535 project that supposed to have BMP is going 1143 01:02:15,535 --> 01:02:17,295 in the next few months, if everything gets 1144 01:02:17,295 --> 01:02:19,055 put in, like, August or something, will you 1145 01:02:19,055 --> 01:02:20,975 still hope to get a BMP inspection report 1146 01:02:20,975 --> 01:02:25,375 by December? Yes. Okay. Just because it would 1147 01:02:25,375 --> 01:02:28,415 be the establishment period. Mhmm. So once you 1148 01:02:28,415 --> 01:02:31,660 install it, you would want, you know, record 1149 01:02:31,660 --> 01:02:33,580 of that, that it is installed and it 1150 01:02:33,580 --> 01:02:36,060 is functioning. And we also do that as 1151 01:02:36,060 --> 01:02:37,900 a part of our final inspection for those 1152 01:02:37,900 --> 01:02:42,060 type of questions. So if you're you've submitted 1153 01:02:42,060 --> 01:02:43,980 plans for one and it calls out, like, 1154 01:02:44,075 --> 01:02:47,355 seeding with mated grass seed or forks or 1155 01:02:47,355 --> 01:02:49,355 something like that, we're probably not going to 1156 01:02:49,355 --> 01:02:52,395 close out that project until we have establishment 1157 01:02:52,395 --> 01:02:55,195 of those needs. So we are recommending that 1158 01:02:55,195 --> 01:02:57,630 people use gloves to make it put in 1159 01:02:57,630 --> 01:03:01,470 the library. So thank you. And I want 1160 01:03:01,470 --> 01:03:02,990 to also point out that you guys doing 1161 01:03:02,990 --> 01:03:05,630 these inspections and doing the required maintenance is 1162 01:03:05,630 --> 01:03:08,109 also protecting an investment that you made with 1163 01:03:08,109 --> 01:03:10,750 your property and your facility. So not only 1164 01:03:10,750 --> 01:03:12,515 is this good for us, for us in 1165 01:03:12,515 --> 01:03:14,595 the city to be in compliance, but it's 1166 01:03:14,595 --> 01:03:16,755 something that your facility paid for to have 1167 01:03:16,755 --> 01:03:19,635 installed. So if you're not maintaining it, you're 1168 01:03:19,635 --> 01:03:21,395 kind of wasting that money you've already spent 1169 01:03:21,395 --> 01:03:22,995 and then it costs more money to come 1170 01:03:22,995 --> 01:03:25,829 back in and fix it later. I'm like 1171 01:03:25,829 --> 01:03:27,589 paying you now, paying you later, how much 1172 01:03:27,589 --> 01:03:29,990 more expensive is it going to be later? 1173 01:03:30,869 --> 01:03:33,510 And the advantage to inspecting your BMP in 1174 01:03:33,510 --> 01:03:35,589 the first year is that it gives you 1175 01:03:35,589 --> 01:03:39,335 that baseline. Here's what it looked like when 1176 01:03:39,335 --> 01:03:43,015 it was new. And because I mean, I 1177 01:03:43,015 --> 01:03:46,775 do, we do work nationwide. If I didn't 1178 01:03:46,775 --> 01:03:48,454 have a picture of something I looked at 1179 01:03:48,454 --> 01:03:50,694 a year ago, I would not be able 1180 01:03:50,694 --> 01:03:53,270 to tell you what it originally looked like 1181 01:03:53,270 --> 01:03:56,150 or whether it was built a plan. So 1182 01:03:56,150 --> 01:03:59,430 it's just that institutional memory. It helps us 1183 01:03:59,430 --> 01:04:03,670 all. Yeah. And as long, like, we're not 1184 01:04:03,670 --> 01:04:06,150 going to score you badly or get mad 1185 01:04:06,150 --> 01:04:09,075 or anything if, like, your natives aren't established. 1186 01:04:09,155 --> 01:04:11,635 We know it takes time. So if you, 1187 01:04:11,635 --> 01:04:14,115 you know, do your inspection in August or 1188 01:04:14,115 --> 01:04:16,435 September and they're not all established, we know 1189 01:04:16,435 --> 01:04:20,780 that, and that's fine. Like I said, please 1190 01:04:20,780 --> 01:04:22,220 feel free to reach out to us. You 1191 01:04:22,220 --> 01:04:24,940 guys have my business cards. Sam's business card 1192 01:04:24,940 --> 01:04:27,100 is up at the sign in table. I 1193 01:04:27,100 --> 01:04:30,460 will send out all these documents, the training, 1194 01:04:30,460 --> 01:04:32,860 everything, so that you guys can go back 1195 01:04:32,860 --> 01:04:35,795 and review. There's a definition sheet that I'll 1196 01:04:35,795 --> 01:04:37,555 send out as well, because I realize some 1197 01:04:37,555 --> 01:04:40,275 of these terms are probably not as familiar 1198 01:04:40,275 --> 01:04:41,875 to you as they are to us who 1199 01:04:41,875 --> 01:04:43,474 are in the industry and work in it 1200 01:04:43,474 --> 01:04:46,434 all the time. But we want to protect 1201 01:04:46,434 --> 01:04:48,515 our water quality, we want to provide assistance, 1202 01:04:48,930 --> 01:04:50,849 We wanna save you guys money on your 1203 01:04:50,849 --> 01:04:52,530 property so that you don't have to completely 1204 01:04:52,530 --> 01:04:54,530 redo something that you already paid to have 1205 01:04:54,530 --> 01:04:57,650 installed. And also doing those initial inspections, it's 1206 01:04:57,650 --> 01:05:00,609 really important too to make sure that what 1207 01:05:00,609 --> 01:05:02,805 we were told that were going to get 1208 01:05:02,805 --> 01:05:04,405 as a part of your project is what 1209 01:05:04,405 --> 01:05:06,645 was installed and it was also installed to 1210 01:05:06,645 --> 01:05:08,724 your liking because it's your property and you 1211 01:05:08,724 --> 01:05:10,885 want to maintain it a certain way. So, 1212 01:05:10,885 --> 01:05:13,765 some of these facilities can be incredibly beautiful. 1213 01:05:14,165 --> 01:05:16,405 If anyone's aware of our stormwater mountain just 1214 01:05:16,405 --> 01:05:18,740 for the forming pond, that's something we do 1215 01:05:18,740 --> 01:05:20,099 put a lot of work and effort into 1216 01:05:20,099 --> 01:05:22,579 it, it's also gorgeous and it provides a 1217 01:05:22,579 --> 01:05:25,810 lot of habitat for our native pollinators, our 1218 01:05:25,810 --> 01:05:28,690 local wildlife. They were here first, so we 1219 01:05:28,690 --> 01:05:30,130 might as well learn to live with them 1220 01:05:30,130 --> 01:05:34,130 and provide them habitat for them. Does anyone 1221 01:05:34,130 --> 01:05:35,490 have any questions for me?