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uh first announcement is that uh
john burke would not be with us tonight

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he's not feeling well
i would like a resolution for approval

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of tonight's agenda mr

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a resolution for the approval of the
minutes for july 26th

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mr perkins second high school
any discussion

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by saying aye aye
opposed motion carry first up uh we have

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uh here power authority renewable energy
opportunities presentation

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and it's by casey master who is a senior
key account executive

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good evening everybody thank you very
much for your time again i'm casey

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mastro senior key account executive with
the new york power authority i am joined

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by my colleague vanella yeah hottie
who was a manager in our clean energy

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advisory services group
we put together a short slide deck for

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your perusal uh in review during our
time here um this this opportunity we're

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very grateful for it's it's a secondary
opportunity that stemmed initially from

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a conversation that we had with st
lawrence county uh representatives

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several weeks ago
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describing to you in more detail what
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service offering encompasses how it can
be of value to the county uh and allow

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you hopefully plenty of time to answer
any you know any ask any questions

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provide any comments that you may have
on the potential development of some

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sites that we've been
uh you know preliminarily discussing

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with county representatives for for some
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um
so this presentation will primarily be

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driven by by vanilla um and i'll be uh
helping drive that conversation and

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answers to all any and all questions so
i'll let vanella introduce yourself and

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we can jump right into it

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right wonderful thank you casey good
afternoon everyone as casey has

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introduced i'm vanilla yardati i'm
manager of the clean energy advisory

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services group here at the new york
power authority uh i will share my

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screen and please do let me know um when
you're able to see it

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please let me know if you can see my
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yeah
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i'm going to put it in slideshare more
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are you still able to see the actually
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next light on

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all right wonderful all right so thanks
again and we can go ahead and get

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started i believe niko does not need any
introduction to the folks that are in

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the room or anybody on the in this
meeting but just as an overview

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uh we generate about we're a state-owned
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that does not basically use taxpayers
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because we generate our own revenues
through the generation projects we have

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along with the transmission
infrastructure that neither owns and

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operates so 20 of new york state's
electricity is generated uh by neither

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and of the 20 of the energy that's
generated are provided to the state 80

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percent of it is produced through hydra
so similar to saint lawrence county uh

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that already operates i think for some
parts from libra it is already green

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we own and operate over 30 of the
transmission infrastructure in the state

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and expanding and developing on that to
support uh a majority of the renewable

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energy projects including some of the
offshore wind projects that are coming

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online in new york state
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over 300 million dollars is invested
into energy efficiency projects to

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support our customers along with
creating more than 400 000 jobs in the

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state through the different economic
development sniper has

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when we're talking about this
organization

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always thinking about how do we further
support our country advisory services

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team that has evolved and since its
inception this team is a dedicated team

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all we do is customer sighted renewable
energy projects we call it because it's

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customer sighted we're talking about
smaller scale mostly connecting to the

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distribution grid so these are
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why
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services team is also known as the der
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advisory team so the benefit we bring is
we've come up with a streamlined program

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structure and a procurement process that
helps public entities to take advantage

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of uh
complete like turnkey solution project

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provisions to our customers so we act as
in short we act as bonus rep or owner's

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advisor on these projects all the way
from doing very early feasibility

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studies
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providing project management oversight
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completion and execution of the project
itself that is the true implementation

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all the way until commercial operation
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that because we are the new york power
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operating we are still around and we're
still here so if there is ever a concern

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any time about the ongoing or operating
projects you could still always knock on

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some of the advantages here again
the the renewable market in general is

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very volatile and dynamic especially in
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special in every way correct no pun
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uh the policy to the financing of the
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basis and sometimes we see it the policy
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in a way concerning but
our team actually dreams in solar panels

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and
that hasn't turned into nightmares yet

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so we take pride in that as well so but
to keep things more streamlined and get

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the best value to our customers take
making sure that the best in available

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incentives are made available because
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level or federal or on a first-come
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they have a duration like
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uh based on the timeline so both time is
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also the other one is the scale so we
take into consideration all of these

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things and we've actually come up with
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naipa went out and
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renewable developers to

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uh projects that were done early on
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not saying whether they're large
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because of the marketplace there have
been incidents where a developer could

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not continue to keep up with the project
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that is of concerning
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especially so what might have done is
that libra has a pre-qualified tool of

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vendors and
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we develop the entire request for
proposals all the way through the

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solicitation and everything through our
streamlined procurement processes and we

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have the ability to either go
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a public rfp or we have the ability to
go to our pre-qualified pool of vendors

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and ask them for a quick turnaround on
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bidding either way and most of the
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state local to specific regions
work or operate nationally and also

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globally are all on our list so it makes
things a lot more easier

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this shows i think i kind of briefly
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that we can support our customers with
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it inception
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portfolio doing the technical
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all of that
considering the then current market

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conditions all the way to developing the
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evaluation process
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want to take a quick pause there to see
if there are any questions before we

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move on to the next

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you don't slide any you may continue
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wonderful all right
so uh some this is just a very high

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level overview of our pipeline and
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different stages we work with all public
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agencies or other governmental sectors
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we're doing a portfolio for westchester
county where we're developing projects

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at eight of their sites
that portfolio is a very unique

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combination and that's where we have the
flexibility under the same procurement

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mechanism or under the same rfp to
evaluate pricing whether our customers

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are interested in let's say outright
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project or want to update 100 of the
energy under let's say a power purchase

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agreement contract or if it's just want
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solar model so they can provide
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constituents and westchester county is a
combination where we're doing a few

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projects under uh a power purchase
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often 100 of the energy and will pay the
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uh a dollar for kwh or a unit cost for
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the system the other half of the
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community solar model where the
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that's
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about community solar and i have a
program structure i'll show you in a

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little bit here um
because it's for people like me i'm an

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apartment dweller and
i do this job because not because it's a

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job but because this is truly what i
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renewables and i can say the same for my
entire team you're very passionate about

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this
unfortunately while i can claim that i

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have a ceiling i don't necessarily have
a roof and that's where i think new york

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state's community solar model is really
beautiful where it gives people like me

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an opportunity to operate from clean
energy and local solar projects

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basically so
the westchester county is a combination

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of both systems are both approaches uh
city of white plains we are recently

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developing our the projects are in
construction it's also a community solar

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portfolio at uh
nine of the city owned properties and

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under a community solar model
the city of white plains the city is

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also off taking a portion of the energy
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about forty percent of the energy will
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hosting the project and the remainder of
the 60 goes to what we call the mass

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market subscribers that's residents and
small commercial entities within the

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city
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the list we are working with new york
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their sites uh their department of
education's k-12 schools and uh also six

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water treatment facilities belonging to
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protection we do work with a quite a few
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uh city of albany we're doing a
community solar project where it's not

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actually uh
being implemented on the city's sites

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but uh actually they're off taking from
local projects because there are some

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challenges with their own properties for
developing communities uh developing

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solar in general so we look at
opportunities of

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what serves the best need of our
customers and

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make sure that we are still able to meet
their objective and not just it's not

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like a private developer or a private
consultant that pushes the project down

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but truly provide the full transparency
as to whether our customers should move

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forward with a certain project or
whether it's not economical or which of

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the options would be the most economical
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in terms of both economics but also when
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goals and objectives

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so a typical contract structure that
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structure but also nybis is that uh lipo
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advisory services agreement uh with our
customer most of the feasibility work

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and everything else that we develop is
at no upfront cost to our customer the

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way we developed our model is to make
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impact or the financial impact to our
customers is minimized to the extent

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possible
however we are mandated by our board to

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recover our the cost that is basically
for my time and uh the rest of the team

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that spends time on the project so it's
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lump sum what we call advisory services
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but
when we go into the rfp phase we include

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what the advisory services fee should be
in the rfp so this full transparency

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and actually recover that through the
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once the project goes into
implementation it'll be it will be paid

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in milestone payments and uh that way
it's not included by our customer at all

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we have actually formal feedback and
several cases from the developers as

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if the developer were to do all the due
diligence typically that is otherwise

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performed by naiba because they're a
private entity and because of their

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rates and structure it costs them a lot
more so nipper doing the upfront

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development actually makes it very easy
for the developers and they're also

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looking at a portfolio that's almost a
definite uh happening to like definite

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project so
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uh reduces the risk for the developers
and they're more than happy to pay the

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advisory services
just based on uh the projects that we

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have in the portfolio and how we have
operated this class turns to be a

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very small
single digit the lower single digit

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fraction of the overall project cost so
that's where developers see value in

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what uh knife are bringing in as well
and have no issues ever actually paying

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it we have never been contested or
challenged by either customers or

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developers on our advisory services
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so
uh the other one that we i have to the

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left here where i talk about the house
cited and the anchor subscription is

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what
our customers would typically uh execute

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with the solar developer especially
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host site agreement could take multiple
uh in a way basis are multiple

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mechanisms it could be the
straightforward and the most preferred

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by the solar industry is a lease
agreement we do because of the project's

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lifetime itself based on the technology
which could be upwards of 30 35 years

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based on the latest technology or the
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developers prefer at least a 25-year
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solar models um
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to the credits or the revenue streams
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current state policy are dictated and
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most projects as well so there are
definite revenue streams that the

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developers want to take advantage of
they should that should minimize the

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risk and the concerns our customers also
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the lease payments moving forward
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the system as long as the system's
producing the developers incurring are

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realizing their revenues and as long as
the developers realizing their revenues

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there should be no problem paying the
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lease payments to our customers the
second option is if there are consents

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which i do tend to see with government
sectors especially talking about

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municipalities
executing a very long-term lease

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agreement the second option is a license
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so it could be a revocable or
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agreement will come with the termination
schedule that the developer will provide

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information on upfront and that can be
included in the contract in case a

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contract needs to be terminated before
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so that's on the project side uh and as
i've explained we start with just a

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simple authorization to proceed
memorandum it's just a one-page

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non-committal non-binding uh memo that
we share with our customers for neighbor

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to start the work on on behalf of you
start the development of the rfp once we

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finish the feasibility et cetera and uh
as we're going through the development

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of the rfp process in parallel we uh
typically execute an advisory services

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agreement which is also
uh casey jump in here anytime of course

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you're more familiar with those
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non-comprehensive i'm an engineer by
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uh to customers about some of their
advisory services agreement they did ask

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me if i'm a counselor so i'll take that
as a compliment and if i'm able to

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understand as an engineer i would say
it's a very simple uh contract again so

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casey do you have anything to add there
i would say that um

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the two contracts working in tandem
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um
represent naiba's

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uh
ability to encompass both project

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specific information and an
authorization to proceed

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which would then get
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the terms and conditions agreement is is
an overarching agreement that is not

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project specific it's a
generally a one-time signature

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terms and conditions agreement that
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is represented for all capital projects
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uh those two documents together are
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the only all we need to move things
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what we would call a design kickoff
meeting where we would actually get

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boots on the ground and start talking
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you know the beginning of work
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thanks casey
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what i wanted to show you is just talk
about the high level structure of how

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community solar works which you've
braved a little bit but also we went

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ahead and looked at one of the sites
that or one of the county owned

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properties um to assess whether it's
viable for solar or not and if we were

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to move forward with the project how the
economic value to other benefits

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looked like to the county and your
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a community solar typical project
here in new york state i can walk you

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through just this

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traffic here to the left
the county will be the site

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and you will have the opportunity
the anchors to be an anxious subscriber

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what that means is you'll have the
opportunity of the energy that is

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produced from the system 40 percent of
the energy the county will receive bill

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credits on its utility bills and that
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unfortunately right now the current
state policy only allows these credits

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to be applied to investor-owned
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and it does not it is not available
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muni operated
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we were looking at one of the sites
that's in messina of course it's just

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looking at from a very high level and i
believe that particular region is served

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by the messina electric district so most
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cannot fall under community solar model
as the current policy state policy

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stands however with them if it's a
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nice territory or anywhere else
we can go ahead and implement the

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project
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the developer will be responsible for
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the term of the contract he's also
responsible for not only getting the

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anchor subscriber for 40 of the energy
or basically it's the subscription

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management as a sponsor of the project
to go out and enroll

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uh for the remainder of the 60 of the
energy that's produced from the systems

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mass market subscribers that would be
again residents and small commercial

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entities
whoever subscribing into the project

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they typically receive a discount on
their utility bills they don't have to

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pay anything out of their pocket until
recently there were two bills they would

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receive so for every unit of energy
that's exported under the community's

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solar model

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the utilities
say let's say gives about a dollar per

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for every rate of energy out of the
dollar i get to keep

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10 cents off it and i'll give the 90
cents to the developer so you can almost

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look at it as
somebody put it very simply that's

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actually
my experience

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works commissioner that said it and the
way he said it is buying a 100 gift card

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for 90
so you get the 10 discount and you can

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use that towards your utility bill
credits but the state has recently moved

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to something called as consolidated
billing so

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any of the subscribers including our
constituents do not have to see two

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bills anymore it's their continuous
ongoing whatever they've been getting

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from national grid let's say in this
case and they'll just start seeing a new

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line item that shows them build credits
just for subscribing into the project

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nothing out of pocket at all
uh and of course the same developer will

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pay the lease payments and if there are
any bill credits will be passed to uh

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from the utility that's the overall
community solar structure

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and uh the site we looked at just as a
sample to give you some information on

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this is the 1201 and 1203 champlain
street in austin and uh jason thank you

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for providing all of the information if
you're on the wall and this is about 18

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and a half acres site so i want to sorry
i want to walk you through the different

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images that we have here the most
important things that matter are

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how does the topography of the project
site look like is it flat lands is it

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are there too many trees that need
clearing out not the tree cleaning is uh

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cannot be done but it also comes at a
cost and if you want to consider a

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replacement because
while we're doing something really good

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doing solar projects we also want to be
conscious about

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any impact that there could be
especially if you're talking about local

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uh environment so
typically what we ask developers is if

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there's any tree removal it's replaced
at least one is to one or if there are

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any local guidelines for the carbon
footprint footprint we ask for

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equivalent one is to one like carbon
footprint replacement so they have to uh

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replant trees elsewhere if they're
taking any trees down

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and the second one is also are there any
slopes just the terrain and other things

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but along with that we look at
any wetlands or other environmental

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concerns as well including endangered
species and other things so there

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the top left image was what was shared
by the county when we were looking at

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this particular site and the bottom left
one

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is something that the new york state
dec the department of energy

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conservation
has published as their maps as you can

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see there is some slight um extension of
wetlands or the buffer the light green

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you see here is the buffer that nyc dec
maps share we always want to edge on

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them
john caution when we approach these

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models we tend to be a little
conservative because as long as if the

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system can be expanded to more than what
we are

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assessing
always well and good but we we just tend

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to take that conservative approach at
least for the purpose of initial and

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preliminary assessments so as you can
see while that entire area was available

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to us
we only utilized about

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this area based on also the wetlands
that are shown by the dec maps

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the second and the most important thing
uh also one of the biggest reasons or

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the factors that has led to several
projects not moving forward in new york

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state unfortunately
is the utility interconnection what that

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means is
does national grid infrastructure as

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it's as it exists right now
at this site be able to support another

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solar project and this additional
renewable generation

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and that's what we look at the utilities
are required to publish that make

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certain information publicly available
with some registration and other things

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of course and we go and review that if
we have any difficulties if we don't

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find enough information we do pick up
the phone and speak with the ious as

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well we've got very good relationships
there but we also have internal

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technical and interconnection teams that
we rely on as well to

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take a second look at and validate
anything that we are verifying so that's

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what we've done for this particular
project as well and there seems to be

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not too far off like our project site is
right here and the blue line you're

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seeing
here is the national grid um i call it

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the wires that exist there that we can
connect to

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so
i think uh typically my favorite part of

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the
presentations any time we do it um casey

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did give me a mandate that i should be
able to have you all

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through our presentation but this is
just very high level so

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i may not be able to meet his
expectations at the same time

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as you can see just for that one sample
side we went ahead and did an analysis

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on how it looks like and see if there's
truly economic value at this particular

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site right so
one thing that we did not include here

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we show
if the county were to update 40 of the

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energy produced by the system

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how it would look like and uh this is
the that that's where you're looking at

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around 11 000 a year just in build
credits

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and
and this is in addition to the any any

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lease payments that the county may
receive just for hosting the project

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so the remainder of the credits are
going to local communities of course the

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constituents as we discussed and we're
looking at about 450 000

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over the 25-year period that your
constituents can receive in bill credits

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alone
about 395 metric tons of carbon dioxide

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reduced are offset each year that's
that's a significant value and uh based

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on the national consensus especially for
the region on jobs that solar and energy

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storage projects typically create
we're talking about a commercial and

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industrial scale project site right not
not the residential

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say for a cni project we're looking at
about this project general creating

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about 60 jobs in the region along with
being able to power 71 homes for its

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equivalent of taking 86 cars off the
road that's again each year

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the way we presented again in each the
reason why we presented in

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each year is because
while it might look like a very small

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number think about it that's over if it
has to expand over 25 years the impact

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is significant so
here as you can see obviously the higher

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benefits are to the constituents or the
community and

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when it comes to build credits to build
credits but again when the lease

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payments are added on top of this it is
it will be of significant value to the

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county as well and we're just looking at
one site

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if we expand it to a portfolio of
multiple properties of course it's

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scaled to be even higher and provides
even much higher value than that

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vanilla how many years how many acres
does the 2.3 kw represent

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so
this just this portion of the property

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while the entire i think uh the area
that is available is about 18 and a half

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we're probably looking at
less than half um

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we are using some advanced
wattage kind of like better efficient

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more efficient modules here in our
modeling too so that gives us some

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like the density that you can get they
call it typically the ground coverage

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ratio in the industry basically means
how much ground are you covering how

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much energy are you getting like yield
or energy are you getting for each

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square foot of um
the system that we're installing so this

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probably is around about three megawatts
so about maybe

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12 acres i would say 12 to 12 and a half

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i want to make sure the folks on the
call at st lawrence county

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who know
you know from the conversation we had

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before their total acreage
it is that they're considering you know

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given with some kind of sense of scale
so thank you yep absolutely and also we

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have the ability the reason we what we
develop is here again baseline when we

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go to the rfp stage we will provide
baseline uh designs to the developers so

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when we get the responses back or the
bits back we're doing an apples to

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apples comparison at the same time we
give them the flexibility crazy

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uh we give them the flexibility to
basically come up with their own designs

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and be able to propose what they want to
propose and expand the system size

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because
increases system size like when we ask

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for let's say under community solar when
we ask for them to provide pricing for

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leases lease as well
we don't ask them to just give us uh

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dollars per acre instead we ask them to
provide it in dollars per megawatt per

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year that is so if at all let's say one
developer has really good supplier

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contracts for getting solar panels and
they're able to get a larger system on

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the same plot of land when compared to
the other one

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if they're getting benefits from scale
or anything we want that trickle down

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back to us as well so that's where our
neighbor's approach in requesting rising

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to moving forward with the project or
evaluation is different from how

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the rest of the industry looks at it
so

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we are there is also that level of
transparency we require from the

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developers to provide to us

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right the next set of slides i have here
are just very quickly we can go through

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them these are mostly case studies just
want to show you some projects that

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we're doing i've mentioned about the
city of white plains um

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of course there is also the regional and
locational value oops sorry uh

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for the uh these projects can offer as
well and that's why you see that the 6.8

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megawatts pretty much provides um
it's actually a 6.85 megawatt portfolio

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and you can see this is unique sorry
this is unique in a way because we

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either think about when we talk about
solar we're talking about ground mount

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systems directly built on the ground
or rooftop just lying on the roof where

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the roof cannot be used for anything
else or parking lots here as you can see

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on the top picture
these are actually built on parking

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garages
so because we are talking about a

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00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:04,000
densely urban city like white plains as
well there's not really a lot of

444
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:09,120
open spaces and that's where some of the
city-owned properties are these really

445
00:31:05,679 --> 00:31:12,240
large massive parking garages and uh ipa
was able to provide them services where

446
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:16,320
they could actually build canopies on
top of the garages and still be able to

447
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:22,399
make about a million dollars a year in
just in lease revenues

448
00:31:18,399 --> 00:31:25,760
annually and that is in addition in our
in addition to that or on top of that

449
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,799
they were able to receive about a little
over a hundred thousand dollars in bill

450
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,880
credits
the

451
00:31:29,519 --> 00:31:35,279
the incentives
are one of the major things that played

452
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:39,360
into giving them that kind of benefits
and that incentive market has tapered

453
00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:42,320
down significantly now in the state not
saying like not economical anymore at

454
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,200
all but
not

455
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:48,799
may not be as attractive as what we're
looking at here and also the region and

456
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,080
where
uh the cost of electricity in the

457
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:57,120
southeast new york region obviously is
slightly are significantly higher than

458
00:31:54,799 --> 00:32:00,960
rest of the state so that kind of added
value to the project as

459
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:04,960
well a couple of other examples we are
building a portfolio of uh similar

460
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:08,640
community solar projects that about
thirteen and a half megawatts of solar

461
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:12,080
pv paired with energy storage at the jfk
international airport uh that will be

462
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,640
similar to what we're doing for
westchester county where a portion of it

463
00:32:13,919 --> 00:32:18,960
is
consumed on-site at the airport the

464
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:24,320
remainder will be offered to the local
community constituents and

465
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,320
constituents basically

466
00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:30,320
the last one is uh as we were working
with westchester county we had a lot of

467
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,519
municipalities that had reached out to
us within the county uh that were

468
00:32:31,919 --> 00:32:37,200
interested in a similar model some of
their sites were smaller where

469
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:40,960
they may not be as attractive to the
developers uh if they stood by

470
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,840
themselves and that's where we thought
again out of the box and worked with the

471
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:47,919
county partnered with the county
actually to come up with what we call a

472
00:32:45,919 --> 00:32:52,240
community solar partnership program
under this program basically

473
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:56,240
public entities within western county
have the ability to enroll into the

474
00:32:53,840 --> 00:33:00,080
program where they can either develop on
their own properties

475
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:03,760
or just off take from projects that
exist within the region that are within

476
00:33:02,159 --> 00:33:07,120
the portfolio again
or do a combination of both so we have

477
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,399
about
actually not counting the county uh

478
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:14,799
westchester county themselves we have
about 26 municipalities that have

479
00:33:12,159 --> 00:33:17,840
enrolled and over actually nine school
districts right now that are not

480
00:33:16,159 --> 00:33:19,760
participating from the get-go of the
program

481
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:25,039
uh
this mean this meant actually it was a

482
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:28,240
heavy lift because there are dozens and
dozens of sites that are submitted by

483
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:32,640
all of these customers and we went
through all of them thoroughly vetted we

484
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:37,120
are in the process of making an award we
issued the rfp as a public solicitation

485
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:41,760
we have gotten some really really good
responses that are in a way

486
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:45,679
we were thrilled and surprised and uh
it's a pleasant surprise there uh and

487
00:33:43,919 --> 00:33:49,279
we're in the process of making our final
selection of the developers so that's

488
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:52,960
where this particular project stands uh
it's expected to generate anywhere

489
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:56,880
between 25 is the lowest again that's
being very conservative opportunity to

490
00:33:55,200 --> 00:34:01,039
expand on that is also significantly
high here and of course it has the

491
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:04,640
potential to uh incorporate battery
energy storage systems which will

492
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:07,760
provide additional value both in terms
of lease payments and also in terms of

493
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:12,560
bill press
so i believe that's the last of my

494
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:16,320
slides and i'll stop shooting now
and open it to you if you have any

495
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:19,200
questions
yeah i think we do uh let us let you

496
00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:22,560
read
five questions for the answer

497
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:26,560
okay
let's let your hands

498
00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:30,720
uh thank you very much for your
presentation

499
00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:35,119
could you please share that deck with
possibly our county administrator i'd

500
00:34:33,119 --> 00:34:38,480
like to go over the slides again there
was a lot of information you presented

501
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:42,320
and
if you could send it to her if you

502
00:34:40,159 --> 00:34:46,879
wouldn't mind she could send it to the
people that request it

503
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:50,079
absolutely no problem at all
casey will be able to share that with

504
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:54,560
the county
thank you very much

505
00:34:51,919 --> 00:34:54,560
anyone else

506
00:34:55,119 --> 00:35:00,960
well thank you for your presentation and
thank you for your time

507
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:04,800
we'll look into that information when
you send it to us probably much closer

508
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:08,640
thank you very much
fantastic thank you we would obviously

509
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:13,119
make ourselves available for any and all
subsequent questions comments or uh

510
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:16,839
opportunity to talk further about
development of this project

511
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:22,960
an absolute pleasure thank you to you
have a great evening goodbye everyone

512
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:27,200
thank you
thank you everybody

513
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,280
so next up
is

514
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:34,720
st lawrence
arts council we have maggie mckenna the

515
00:35:31,839 --> 00:35:34,720
executive director

516
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:41,839
thank you everyone for having me um i am
maggie mckenna uh saint lawrence

517
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:45,760
actually our our official title is st
lawrence county arts council but we are

518
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:51,119
not as you all know affiliated with
county government um but we are the arts

519
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:55,440
agency within st lawrence county and we
actually distribute re-grant funds from

520
00:35:53,440 --> 00:36:00,000
the new york state council on the arts
in upwards of 60 thousand dollars to

521
00:35:57,839 --> 00:36:05,119
both to st lawrence jefferson and louis
counties we are the only arts agency in

522
00:36:03,359 --> 00:36:09,760
those three counties that receives that
grant from niska and so we're kind of

523
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:13,040
the mini niska new york state council on
the arts for the mini niska of our

524
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:17,599
region
i'm also going to share my screen and i

525
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:23,200
wanted to talk to you about um
our north country arts festival that's

526
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:28,720
starting up um at the end of next week
and then also talk to you about our um

527
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:32,400
art center that we're working on can you
all see my screen at this point

528
00:36:31,359 --> 00:36:37,359
yes
excellent okay so this is actually our

529
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:41,920
printed program and i will send this
over to you next week when we get it um

530
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:46,960
from back from the printers
but i'm going to run through it with you

531
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:52,079
so you can see what we're working on but
this north country arts festival

532
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:55,440
alongside the new creative spirit
community arts center that we're

533
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:59,280
building
they're really the two pillars of our

534
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:03,680
strategic plan um
so that we have both a hub for our

535
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:08,240
organization and for the arts industry
in our region as a whole and a festival

536
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:13,680
celebrating the arts across our entire
county and hopefully expanding that even

537
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:20,160
further than than just st lawrence
county we would love to really um to to

538
00:37:17,359 --> 00:37:25,359
bring the whole arts region or the arts
industry together as a regional uh

539
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:28,720
tourism destination
so um

540
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:33,040
this is the the north country arts
festival and it starts

541
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:36,560
next weekend actually with potsdam porch
fest and canton porch fest so hop on

542
00:37:35,359 --> 00:37:40,400
through and show you some all the
different things that are going on

543
00:37:37,839 --> 00:37:44,480
throughout the month of september and um
we'll go from there so uh also i wanna

544
00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:49,920
actually before i go there at the sa
lawrence county arts council our mission

545
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:55,119
is uh we we enrich the vibrancy of the
north country community by cultivating

546
00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:59,119
art appreciation and inspiring creative
expression

547
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:04,880
let me go back to this let's see if i
can make this work there we go okay so

548
00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:10,880
this this uh festival is really a series
of different events that um are all

549
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:15,359
marketed together under one
umbrella that is the north country arts

550
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:20,560
festival in an effort to
expand our marketing reach um to both

551
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:24,960
the all of the communities throughout
lawrence county and then also to

552
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:30,480
tourists just outside the community that
will come up for events and um

553
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:35,440
and participate in the arts industry
that we have the very vibrant arts

554
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:38,640
industry that we have up here
so

555
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:42,640
the creative partner showcase is an
exhibit of all of our artists work we

556
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:47,200
have about
30 artists participating in that one

557
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:50,400
exhibit and i
don't have the exact numbers right this

558
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:55,280
second but we have
over a hundred different artists between

559
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:59,839
musicians and creative and visual
artists um participating in this

560
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:03,119
festival as a whole
so we have a few different other

561
00:39:01,359 --> 00:39:07,280
exhibits including our big and small
themed exhibit that's in the potsdam

562
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:12,400
town hall and the plein air group
exhibit that will be at the traditional

563
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:16,800
arts of upstate new york tawny in canton
and plein air is just painting outside

564
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:23,760
um there's an incredible number of
people in our region that do that and do

565
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:29,040
incredibly well selling their artwork um
when they just create it on site

566
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:33,520
um so the biggest the the big starting
event is um on september 4th and it

567
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:38,400
actually
includes three different components so

568
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:43,760
the first is that we have um the sales
slc arts market and that is a sales

569
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:48,640
event for artists um we have the list of
participating artists right here and um

570
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:53,839
they
will be selling in ice park in potsdam

571
00:39:51,359 --> 00:39:58,160
and all of them actually have to have
their own sales tax id number and they

572
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:02,640
will be
selling their work on that day

573
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:07,359
um the next the other component within
ice park as well is a whole

574
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:12,400
festival of concerts um
the ives park concert series started in

575
00:40:09,839 --> 00:40:17,040
2016 and we're kind of just
repositioning it um so we have four

576
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:22,480
different performances and it actually
ends with a really wonderful uh

577
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:26,079
originally pop stand native sinclair
who's now down in nashville and she's

578
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:29,760
internationally known
so that is

579
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:34,560
the fourth and then the last component
on the fourth is our porch fest which

580
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:39,200
was a really fun um coveted safe event
that we've ran for the first time last

581
00:40:36,319 --> 00:40:44,240
year um and it is in residential on
residential porches um within the

582
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:47,760
village of potsdam um so people can walk
from knives park down to the

583
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:53,119
neighborhood and see everything that's
going on throughout the day the next day

584
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:56,960
though on september 5th we'll have this
is the first time we're running this and

585
00:40:54,640 --> 00:41:03,280
it's a canton porch fest and so we'll
have eight different performances on

586
00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:08,240
four porches in downtown canton as well
um and that'll be a really fun event

587
00:41:06,240 --> 00:41:12,960
pretty low-key and i hope that people
will come and see all the wonderful

588
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:17,119
musicians that will be performing then
um we also have another iceberg concert

589
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:22,319
series concert the crane latin ensemble
on the 18th so another piece of this um

590
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:27,280
the festival as a whole was that we're
really trying to develop our partners

591
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:31,599
across the county as much as possible
and we work with the remington art

592
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:36,000
museum in ogdensburg with tawny and
canton um with messina artists

593
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:40,880
association and all sorts of other
agencies to promote the arts together

594
00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:44,480
and really work as a
county-wide team

595
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:48,400
so we do have some partner events that
we have in here including for

596
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:53,280
representation that's doing a plein air
event on site there um music on maine is

597
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:58,240
an event in canton that's happening
every thursday um from five to six and

598
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:02,480
then um tommy has a few different
exhibits and the harvest moon that's

599
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:06,480
happening at the that's the fall
fundraiser dinner at the remington so we

600
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:10,800
wanted to make sure that those got
promoted as well and there's more

601
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:14,880
partner information later on too
okay so this is kind of the the

602
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:20,960
centerpiece of our whole festival and
this the studio tour the artist studio

603
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:26,079
tour has been running for 34 years um so
you might remember going into an

604
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:30,880
artist's home like 30 years ago and um
that was what you were doing you were on

605
00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:34,960
the slc arts studio tour at that time
but what we're doing this year is we're

606
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:38,800
actually separating it out into three
different regions so i'll show you the

607
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:44,560
three really quick we have the southeast
that's kind of colton parrishville um

608
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:48,079
hannel falls then the northwest which is
ogdensburg um

609
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:53,280
all the way down to the iva smith and
hammond and some other places in lorenzo

610
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:58,560
falls in canton
and then the last day the last weekend

611
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:03,200
uh potsdam
madrid um up to waddington we didn't

612
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:08,880
have anybody in messina sign up this
year unfortunately um but we wanted to

613
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:14,160
give people an opportunity to um
see the different artists and when we

614
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:18,400
had it all the whole entire county all
combined in one weekend most people

615
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,960
could only go to one or two or three or
four maybe

616
00:43:19,839 --> 00:43:25,040
sites i
my first year working at the arts

617
00:43:22,319 --> 00:43:29,839
council i went to 18 sites in two days
and it was

618
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:33,280
bonkers so not recommended for anyone um
so we're separating it out this year so

619
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:37,359
that you can go
all the way across the county over three

620
00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:40,720
weekends and really visit with these
artists um

621
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:44,640
see their work
by their work and

622
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:50,079
and get to know the county as a whole
and the amazing talent that exists here

623
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:54,240
we as an organization will also have a
hub set up in different parts of the

624
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:58,640
county for each weekend as well so the
first weekend we're going to be down in

625
00:43:56,079 --> 00:44:03,920
colton if ireland's living the second
weekend we'll be at the remington and

626
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:08,720
then at tommy the next day then this the
last weekend we're going to be at the

627
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:14,000
pound equipment museum with the county
chambers um open air market that's

628
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:18,640
happening on the 25th um
and then the last day will be in our new

629
00:44:16,720 --> 00:44:23,599
arts center
um the remington arts festival really

630
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:30,079
closes out the festival and that's a
really awesome sales event again for our

631
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:36,319
artists um and it's celebrating the
fredrik remington who was born in canton

632
00:44:33,359 --> 00:44:40,000
um and letting canton kind of hold on to
that ownership of remington just a

633
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:45,440
little bit because i know that there's a
little bit of ogdensburg canton uh vibes

634
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:49,680
going on through about remington but uh
we want to kind of mesh that together

635
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:54,240
and that's actually the same day as the
gala event at the remington art museum

636
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:58,880
so it'll be a really fun remington day
to celebrate his birthday

637
00:44:56,800 --> 00:45:03,119
um as i mentioned before this is another
part of our program and it's our

638
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:08,079
re-grant program again that's that 60
thousand dollars that we distribute to

639
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:11,280
organizations and artists and some of it
also goes to

640
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:17,040
class uh to
public school programs like helping them

641
00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:21,520
with their theater programs um so it's a
really amazing program that we have been

642
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:26,160
doing since 2008
and um we're just growing that re-grant

643
00:45:24,319 --> 00:45:29,920
program more and more and more every
year

644
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:35,040
and we also have a celebration
award ceremony for our grantees

645
00:45:33,119 --> 00:45:38,720
on the 29th
so this is the other part about our

646
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:44,640
partners that i want to mention we do
keep an inventory of arts resources that

647
00:45:41,599 --> 00:45:48,480
exist throughout our region and this is
really the first time we're publishing

648
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:51,440
what we have um
so

649
00:45:49,359 --> 00:45:57,280
it's again it's it's just great to see
across especially st lawrence jefferson

650
00:45:53,520 --> 00:46:02,640
and lewis counties um how many
world-class art resources there are um

651
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:06,560
so many really wonderful things to go
see and really we don't fill in the

652
00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:12,240
adirondack park as much because that's
not really our region um there's another

653
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:16,240
agency that kind of focuses on that
we're really focused on st lawrence

654
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:21,040
county jefferson lewis for the re-grant
program and then oh sorry

655
00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:26,050
and then again uh we highlighted some of
our major partners throughout the county

656
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:29,760
who um provide really amazing cult
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657
00:46:27,359 --> 00:46:33,599
arts and culture resources for the
people who live here and

658
00:46:31,359 --> 00:46:39,040
tourists as well
so the um before i continue actually

659
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:41,839
does anybody have any questions on the
arts festival

660
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:52,319
okay i will just finish up real quick
with um again i said the two pillars of

661
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:56,880
our strategic plan include the festival
and then our creative spirit community

662
00:46:54,560 --> 00:47:03,920
arts center which is in downtown potsdam
um we did receive 578 000 from potsdam's

663
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:08,400
downtown revitalization initiative grant
um to renovate that building and we're

664
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:13,200
purchasing that building the full
project is about eight hundred thousand

665
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:17,119
dollars um we have a campaign to raise
about two hundred thousand dollars um

666
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:23,359
and this
this is creating a hub for the arts

667
00:47:20,079 --> 00:47:28,800
industry as a whole in our region um
and re reusing a building that is has

668
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:34,960
been underutilized or mostly vacant for
a very long time um and so and one that

669
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:38,960
has also held an exhibit hall for for
many many years as well so there's a lot

670
00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:40,880
of history that goes back into that as
well

671
00:47:39,839 --> 00:47:43,520
so
um

672
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:47,440
it's great it's
once we're dedicated and we are holding

673
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:51,760
this festival these two components are
going to work really beautifully

674
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:55,440
together um to to support the artists in
our community to

675
00:47:53,200 --> 00:48:01,839
support anybody who's interested in
music art theater comedy uh any kind of

676
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:06,960
drama any kind of painting or
learning uh we're developing

677
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:12,400
partnerships with the colleges and with
the public schools with all sorts of

678
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:16,160
arts agencies across our county as well
and um looking to

679
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:21,680
in to
show more people what we're up to really

680
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:23,920
that's why i'm here um
and

681
00:48:24,319 --> 00:48:29,760
sorry i just want to make sure that i
didn't leave anything out um

682
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:34,880
that's yeah that's pretty much all i
have on this uh does anybody have any

683
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:40,319
questions specifically about
the center or the festival

684
00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:43,520
you know we'd like to ask our legislator
for lucia why there's no talent

685
00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:47,240
yeah
speak to that mr terminelli

686
00:48:57,359 --> 00:49:06,559
thank you mrs mckenna um
i noticed the town of pakistan recently

687
00:49:03,599 --> 00:49:09,440
designated the st lords arts
council as their

688
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:15,440
uh
local arts agency can you

689
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:19,520
tell me how that benefits you or if that
would be something that we as a county

690
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:25,200
could do
absolutely um as a county-wide

691
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:30,880
region-wide agency um we are always
looking to support the region as a whole

692
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:35,440
especially through our regret um
our regret opportunities so we actually

693
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:40,319
applied for the first time ever to the
national endowment for the arts this

694
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:43,760
year um to be
to receive

695
00:49:41,599 --> 00:49:48,400
what they call sub granting dollars but
it's the same as our regrant dollars um

696
00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:53,520
sub granting dollars to
distribute to agencies in our region

697
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:59,520
in order to do that we did need to be
designated as a local arts agency um

698
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:04,400
with that i would love to discuss um
becoming a local arts agency for the

699
00:50:01,839 --> 00:50:10,800
county and it wouldn't cost the county
anything it would just say we are the

700
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:16,720
agency you would go to for or to to ask
for those kinds of re-grant funds or to

701
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:21,040
create projects like that um we're also
another part of our strategic plan our

702
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:26,800
longer term strategic plan is to do
cultural planning so um and and to

703
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:29,839
encourage creative place making which is
i'm not going to get into all that

704
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:33,520
because there's like many scholarly
papers on that that are complicated and

705
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:38,720
but i have talked to uh jason
flotenhauer about that just putting a

706
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:41,599
bug in his ear at the county um but yeah
it would just be strengthening the

707
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:45,440
partnership and really
um

708
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:53,200
recognizing that the arts are a crucial
component to our region's economy

709
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:56,640
and to our um our community vitality um
so so if that was something that the

710
00:50:54,720 --> 00:51:02,000
county would be interested in i would
definitely um like to speak to that more

711
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:05,920
um but really with the town and
if we were to

712
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:13,200
expand to the county um it would be a
designation for as a local arts agency

713
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:17,680
that federal funding
thank you very much okay

714
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:22,000
anyone else
well thank you mr kenneth for your

715
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:26,720
presentation
love what you've got going on in

716
00:51:23,359 --> 00:51:29,920
september showing all the activities
for people that live here in the north

717
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:34,079
country they think that nothing is going
on they need to get involved because we

718
00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:38,880
really have some world-class talent
musicians and singers and art

719
00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:42,319
um and just the local talent artists
it's just something to explore for

720
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,839
everyone so
it's by doing what you're doing that's

721
00:51:44,319 --> 00:51:51,599
that's helping in getting out there so
people get a wider array of what's

722
00:51:48,079 --> 00:51:56,000
happening in their community
thank you and i i

723
00:51:53,599 --> 00:52:01,040
am hoping to speak to you more about the
the effects that the arts have on our on

724
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:05,839
tourism within our community as well as
economic development

725
00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:09,760
well thank you once again a little bit
great on appreciate your time

726
00:52:07,990 --> 00:52:13,200
[Music]
okay first up we have legislator

727
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:16,839
margaret hager mark would you like to
read your resolution please yes mr

728
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:22,079
chairman thank you
um i offer a resolution for plan

729
00:52:19,599 --> 00:52:27,359
proclaiming september 12th through the
18th 2021

730
00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:32,240
as national arts and education week in
st lawrence county and move for its

731
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:38,000
adoption did someone like the second
second by mr truman and mr smith

732
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,000
discussion

733
00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:46,400
um
i think based on what

734
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:50,640
certainly what
mckenna presented to us this evening and

735
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:57,040
uh
the importance of this in education

736
00:52:54,400 --> 00:53:03,599
i think that we need to take the extra
step of proclaiming a special week so

737
00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:07,839
that is in forefront in everyone's mind
about how this contributes to our

738
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:12,839
community
not just our student community but to

739
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:20,640
the entire community
um i think that uh as you said mr

740
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:24,800
chairman we have so much going on in our
county and it would be great to be able

741
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:29,200
to make it more
visible

742
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:33,599
and attract people here there's a lot of
stuff with our great

743
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:38,000
outdoor resources but we have a lot of
indoor resources too so thank you very

744
00:53:36,319 --> 00:53:43,680
much i couldn't agree more i mean two
sundays ago there was a presentation

745
00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:48,880
over by crane the performance series and
it was all by local music uh teachers

746
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:51,440
from indian river
cena

747
00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:59,359
what's up jerry's last name jerry yeah
jerry mcdaniel's daughter is an

748
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:02,720
incredible talent
um

749
00:54:00,319 --> 00:54:07,920
it was just a wonderful experience of
singing all afternoon

750
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:11,599
as good as you can
these are all the people that are

751
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:15,920
educating here today so i want to thank
you for that for raising this resolution

752
00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:20,880
any further discussion on this
resolution so you've done all those in

753
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:26,319
favor signify by saying aye
opposed motion carrier next up we have

754
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:30,800
solid waste with mr don chambers that
the resolution is modifying the 2021

755
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:35,119
budget for the solid waste department
for overtime and expenses

756
00:54:33,359 --> 00:54:41,280
move by
mr smither's second language purpose

757
00:54:38,799 --> 00:54:46,160
yes thank you um
the resolution that you have for

758
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:50,559
consideration this evening um
takes funds within the

759
00:54:48,319 --> 00:54:56,880
from the contingency fund within the
operating budget of solid waste

760
00:54:53,520 --> 00:55:00,960
and uh puts the funds in the
uh

761
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:02,720
in the line for overtime expenses
uh

762
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:08,400
the
uh that will bring our total overtime

763
00:55:05,599 --> 00:55:12,160
all expenses allowable to approximately
134 000

764
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:14,920
um
and leaves

765
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:19,599
uh around
117 000

766
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:23,119
left in our contingency count account
within the operating budget

767
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:31,280
any questions for mr james
seeing none all those favorable

768
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:35,520
resolutions 65 are saying aye
opposed or she carried thanks up for

769
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:39,599
highway
also with mr chambers the first

770
00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:42,240
resolution is modifying the 2021 budget
for department

771
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:50,400
i just had a question on solid waste
genders

772
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:55,280
few years back several years back
when fuel was escalating costs

773
00:55:53,040 --> 00:56:00,160
uh i believe we
implemented a fuel surcharge

774
00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:05,200
and i think we're hearing i see the
average gallon of gas is 316 nationals

775
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:08,880
today
um i don't remember what we were at

776
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:11,920
before right i'm thinking it's pretty
close

777
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:14,720
is there any consideration out of that
or thoughts or

778
00:56:14,799 --> 00:56:23,839
well i believe i will uh need to have uh
some further uh discussions with

779
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:27,280
uh the solid waste committee on some
other

780
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:32,160
uh changes that will be coming possibly
coming in the

781
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:38,559
22 budget but
our fees may have to be looked at uh due

782
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:43,200
to uh some outside forces
okay yeah absolutely remember

783
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:47,200
it was quite well all right thank you
thank you

784
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:51,440
our next resolution is for highway and
it's modifying the 2021 budget for the

785
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:55,680
department of highways for overtime and
machinery rental

786
00:56:53,359 --> 00:56:58,960
move by
mr perkins said goodbye

787
00:57:03,119 --> 00:57:12,559
yes thank you um a couple topics being
covered here uh i'll take it uh with the

788
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:18,720
first with the overtime
taking funds out of the existing highway

789
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,720
budget out of the

790
00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:26,000
area where we pay
motor equipment operators and heavy

791
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:29,680
equipment operators we've had some
vacancies

792
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:34,960
uh that should uh that
will be able to

793
00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:38,000
uh fund the overtime expenses uh
hopefully till the end of the year

794
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:43,280
um
and the other item uh item two items

795
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:48,640
that are related uh
one that goes into the

796
00:57:45,079 --> 00:57:56,000
hb1 machinery rental that's for bridge
uh machinery rental and

797
00:57:51,799 --> 00:57:59,119
h1 machinery rental that's for road work
um

798
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:02,319
due to the
the increase in work that we have

799
00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:08,160
with
the increase in chips funding

800
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:13,359
being almost 1.6 million and then
rolling over uh from the previous year

801
00:58:11,359 --> 00:58:19,359
due to the holdback of the state of over
a quarter of a million dollars

802
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:26,160
uh has you know facilitated more work
to be done uh by our forces

803
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:31,520
um the balancing and again this is being
balanced within the budget basically

804
00:58:28,319 --> 00:58:38,480
putting the uh expenditures uh where
they uh need to be for this year we did

805
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:44,160
have a rather uh light year uh for snow
and ice removal so that's where you'll

806
00:58:40,799 --> 00:58:48,319
see in the decreases the hcr machinery
rattle that for county snow removal and

807
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:54,400
the h snow
machinery rental which is uh on state uh

808
00:58:51,760 --> 00:59:00,160
roads uh from machinery rental that's
the internal machinery rental is the

809
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:05,040
internal charges that we charge
from one account to the from uh

810
00:59:03,599 --> 00:59:11,839
basically
the uh to fund the shop from

811
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:17,040
um uh highway operations so uh
basically internal accounting but

812
00:59:14,079 --> 00:59:21,440
staying within on all staying
within the existing highway budget

813
00:59:22,799 --> 00:59:28,640
okay
any more questions for mr chambers

814
00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:33,160
so you're not all those favorite
resolutions signify by saying aye

815
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:39,680
thank you
next resolution is approving federal aid

816
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:46,400
local projects supplemental agreement
number one for right-of-way incidentals

817
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:46,400
and acquisition for county route 35

818
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:56,960
move by

819
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:01,040
miss birkin second by mr

820
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:10,319
yes thank you uh this project we've had
a number of uh resolutions moving

821
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:14,160
forward uh for various contracts with
the

822
01:00:11,119 --> 01:00:19,680
uh with the state for funding uh this
one happens to deal with the

823
01:00:16,319 --> 01:00:24,880
uh acquisition of right of way
this uh project is on county road 35 at

824
01:00:22,799 --> 01:00:29,680
the intersection with
the potsdam morley road

825
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:34,240
this project will be replacing a bridge
but also

826
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:37,119
uh doing safety improvements for
uh

827
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:42,880
the intersections of the hot stand
morley road and actually uh relocating

828
01:00:40,559 --> 01:00:49,119
uh the two legs of
potsdam morley wrote as they approach

829
01:00:46,559 --> 01:00:54,000
uh county road 35
increasing

830
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:54,000
sight distance and

831
01:00:54,079 --> 01:01:02,000
meeting modern uh
standards for safe intersection safety

832
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:06,240
so this will uh approve the res uh the
uh contract with the state of new york

833
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:10,960
who is procuring them right away for the
county

834
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:15,920
okay any questions mr chairs
so you've done all those in favor of the

835
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:21,760
resolution 65689
closed ocean carrier next we have a 2021

836
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:27,440
project update this is james
yes i'll try to be brief there there

837
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:34,880
we do have a lot going on
um i'll start out with the uh bridges

838
01:01:30,799 --> 01:01:40,319
uh the department currently has eight uh
bridges currently in construction out of

839
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:45,119
the 10 planned for this year
county road 54

840
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:48,319
on the uh in the town of stock home near
the

841
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:52,559
lawrence town line is planned to be
closed uh

842
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:59,039
september 9th so that'll be the ninth
bridge under construction

843
01:01:54,400 --> 01:02:05,920
um and county road 27 uh town of russell
uh near thule pond uh will be closed

844
01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:11,680
somewhere in that uh time frame as well
um the other projects of bridge projects

845
01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:17,359
that we have uh jones road uh bridges
which there's actually two bridges at

846
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:20,880
that location we're uh working on the uh
there's work going on on the foundation

847
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:26,400
and
uh the steel uh the foundation work is a

848
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:33,359
little over 50 percent complete
uh browns bridge uh in the hannwei area

849
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:36,799
and pierbot uh they're this structural
all the sub

850
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:40,400
or um substructure work is done
um

851
01:02:38,079 --> 01:02:45,200
the new steel is in place and deck
forming is underway

852
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:49,680
island branch road in the town of
a fowler is uh working on deck forming

853
01:02:48,319 --> 01:02:55,520
as well
uh northumberland uh in the town of

854
01:02:52,240 --> 01:03:01,839
morristown is a remote bridge removal
and the water and sewer installation

855
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:05,359
is underway uh which is required prior
to the removal of the structure

856
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:10,000
uh
halfway house uh road a bridge in the

857
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:16,319
town of waddington
uh super instruction uh structure uh and

858
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:21,440
deck installation uh is planned for this
week

859
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:25,839
darren road in the town of lawrence uh
superstructure and deck installation

860
01:03:23,359 --> 01:03:32,319
within two weeks
depot street in uh town of brazier

861
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:39,119
hamlet of helena will have the steel uh
set uh tentatively this wednesday

862
01:03:35,839 --> 01:03:44,160
um on our roadway projects uh within
approximately two weeks all the road

863
01:03:42,079 --> 01:03:50,160
projects that we'll have will be
recycled and we are starting on the uh

864
01:03:47,599 --> 01:03:55,200
paving schedule the final paving
uh at this point is already underway

865
01:03:52,960 --> 01:04:01,280
and should be complete by the second
week in october um

866
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:07,039
as far as the outpost the russell and
lisbon uh new outposts are coming along

867
01:04:04,319 --> 01:04:13,640
with the concrete foundations and uh
concrete walls

868
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:13,640
uh being installed at this time

869
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:17,839
okay any questions for mr chambers

870
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:23,680
is it happening at
the new purchase on the podcast site on

871
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:28,640
route 11
actually i had a meeting with new york

872
01:04:26,319 --> 01:04:33,920
state d.o.t uh to give me the
preliminary uh they gave me preliminary

873
01:04:31,359 --> 01:04:36,559
approval of location today
um

874
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:45,280
we will need to then take that to the
surveyors to uh do a deep description uh

875
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:45,280
to move the uh that project forward

876
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:51,440
anybody else
thank you mr chambers

877
01:04:49,359 --> 01:04:54,400
thank you
next up is our county attorney stephen

878
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:58,480
button
and the first resolution is authorizing

879
01:04:56,559 --> 01:05:02,400
the settlement agreement between johnson
and johnson and st lords county with

880
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:06,880
respect to an action related to the
opioid crisis

881
01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:09,839
moved by mr forsyth second by mr light
club

882
01:05:12,799 --> 01:05:20,640
good evening everybody i think everyone
is aware that the uh county has been

883
01:05:17,359 --> 01:05:25,760
engaged as a litigant associated with
um the opioid

884
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:29,839
epidemic specifically dealing with the
uh recoveries that are going on with

885
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:35,520
respect to the uh distributors and
manufacturers of oxycontin and fentanyl

886
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:39,280
we have had uh actions going on with
respect to purdue pharma uh we've had

887
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:42,480
actions going on with respect to johnson
and johnson

888
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:47,599
uh abbott laboratories
and a number of other distributors and

889
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:51,119
manufacturers of opioids um i i know
everyone is familiar with the fact that

890
01:05:49,039 --> 01:05:56,079
we reached an agreement that is moving
to the bankruptcy courts associated with

891
01:05:53,680 --> 01:06:00,160
uh the purdue pharma
they were one of the main distributors

892
01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:03,760
and manufacturers of
fentanyl and oxycontin

893
01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:07,760
the resolution you have in front of you
would authorize a settlement with

894
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:13,760
johnson and johnson
uh about a month and a half ago uh

895
01:06:11,119 --> 01:06:18,559
johnson johnson started their uh test
case down on long island and that test

896
01:06:17,119 --> 01:06:22,720
case ultimately resulted in the
settlement um from that there was a

897
01:06:21,039 --> 01:06:27,119
framework that was developed that would
identify uh what the other plaintiffs

898
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:30,559
would be eligible to receive
uh within the body of this resolution

899
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:34,160
you'll see that
there is a range that st lawrence county

900
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:39,119
can recover as a result of the
settlement uh it is contingent on the

901
01:06:36,559 --> 01:06:43,280
other counties uh that our names lit
against signing in the more counties

902
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:49,039
that sign in the more money we will
actually get on this settlement uh the

903
01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:52,079
range as you'll know uh indicates that
it's somewhere between seven hundred and

904
01:06:50,559 --> 01:06:55,440
seventeen thousand or approximately
seven hundred and seventeen thousand

905
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:59,680
three hundred and seven thousand
um it's looking like it's probably gonna

906
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:03,440
be closer uh to the seven hundred
thousand range rather than the three

907
01:07:01,359 --> 01:07:07,760
hundred thousand dollar range uh because
from what i have been informed uh the

908
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:10,880
counties are in fact signing on to this
agreement all of the counties that are

909
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:15,920
signing on to this agreement have to
pass resolution authorizing the

910
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:19,839
agreement prior to september 10th uh so
this resolution would effectively

911
01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:23,039
authorize me to communicate uh our
acceptance of that settlement

912
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:29,559
any questions from mr button mr forza

913
01:07:34,070 --> 01:07:41,119
[Music]
that's correct um what i'm hoping is

914
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:44,559
that this board will authorize me nunc
pro-tung or retroactively at the

915
01:07:43,039 --> 01:07:49,760
september 10th board meeting to
authorize effective this date um just a

916
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:53,839
couple of other side notes that i think
everyone should be aware of associated

917
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:58,799
with the settlement the vast majority of
this settlement will be what are

918
01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:03,520
designated as restricted funds um
restricted is defined as those funds to

919
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:07,440
be utilized for um
purposes related to the opioid epidemic

920
01:08:05,599 --> 01:08:11,039
whether they be in the form of treatment
would they be in the form of law

921
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:17,679
enforcement or activities that are
related specifically to uh opioid

922
01:08:13,839 --> 01:08:21,920
recovery um there's approximately 154
000 that would come up front uh that

923
01:08:20,080 --> 01:08:27,120
would be unrestricted county could
utilize it for any purpose

924
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:32,799
but i think as mr forsythe pointed out
i would be seeking to have this

925
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:32,799
resolution retroactive to this date

926
01:08:35,359 --> 01:08:40,480
okay
anyone else

927
01:08:39,359 --> 01:08:44,480
um
i will be voting against this uh as i

928
01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:47,040
have
in the two three years that we've been

929
01:08:45,839 --> 01:08:52,239
doing this
uh this is a legal drug that billions

930
01:08:49,199 --> 01:08:55,920
were spent by pharmaceutical companies
to bring onto the market it's been

931
01:08:54,319 --> 01:09:00,400
highly regulated
and it's prescribed by doctors and

932
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:04,880
doctors are not being held accountable
for any malfeasance of over-prescribing

933
01:09:03,440 --> 01:09:09,120
or
doing multiple prescriptions for uh

934
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:13,199
certain individuals
uh the end result will be

935
01:09:11,279 --> 01:09:18,000
increased costs to us
patients uh consumers of the actual

936
01:09:15,679 --> 01:09:21,920
products and it will study uh
bringing other products to the market so

937
01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:26,000
i'll be learning now to be consistent
but it's been the last three years

938
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:30,560
so
uh any other discussion see none all

939
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:35,199
those in favor of the resolution signify
by saying aye aye

940
01:09:32,719 --> 01:09:35,199
opposed

941
01:09:37,440 --> 01:09:43,359
next resolution is adopting the legal
arguments of the amethyst brief

942
01:09:41,839 --> 01:09:47,920
submitted by the state of arizona on
behalf of 25 similarly situated states

943
01:09:46,239 --> 01:09:54,560
in the matter of new york state rifle
and pistol association incorporated

944
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:57,920
that's al the kevin b p gruen in this
bishop capacity as superintendent of the

945
01:09:56,320 --> 01:10:02,800
new york state police
and all currently pending before the

946
01:09:59,679 --> 01:10:06,800
united states supreme court moved by mr
leifert

947
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:11,199
secretary of foresight mr indonesia
and miss curran

948
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:15,199
mr ben
thank you

949
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:18,560
i know this board is very familiar with
the activities of the past six years

950
01:10:17,040 --> 01:10:23,679
related to
concerns that arose with respect to the

951
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:28,080
term proper cause that's contained in
penal law section 400. in penal law

952
01:10:26,159 --> 01:10:31,600
section 400 the issuance of a pistol
license is conditioned on a licensing

953
01:10:30,239 --> 01:10:36,960
authority a licensing officer
determining that the applicant has what

954
01:10:34,159 --> 01:10:40,400
is known as proper cause
a demonstration that the individual

955
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:43,520
is
uh similar

956
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:48,400
excuse me is
specially suited to possess a firearm

957
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:50,400
and capable of possessing a firearm
this

958
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:56,239
a term
has permitted a really wide array of

959
01:10:53,840 --> 01:11:01,120
responses from licensing authorities and
all of the 57 counties outside of new

960
01:10:59,199 --> 01:11:06,080
york city and then a special arrangement
essentially in new york city that

961
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:12,640
encompasses the five boroughs uh really
compiling the whole 62 counties having

962
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:16,159
uh a patchwork quilt of solutions
related to the issuance of pistol

963
01:11:14,719 --> 01:11:21,840
licenses
um back in 2015

964
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:25,199
uh this board moved to actually define
the term proper cause because the courts

965
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:28,960
had identified
that proper cause had never really

966
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:33,280
truthfully been defined and this board
identified proper causes being

967
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:37,440
essentially any legal or legitimate
purpose to allow for the issuance of

968
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:41,120
these licenses
when there were difficulties moving

969
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:44,960
forward from that this board took
various actions in the forms of

970
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:52,159
resolutions calling upon changes in
state law calling upon changes in uh the

971
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:56,719
legislation that govern the issuance of
pistol

972
01:11:53,760 --> 01:12:02,640
uh this continued until approximately
2019 when this board joined with the

973
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:07,120
state of louisiana and 16 other states
as amicus in the matter of niserpa

974
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:12,480
versus new york city that was the first
real significant challenge to uh the

975
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:16,880
pistol licensing staff statutes since
2010

976
01:12:14,320 --> 01:12:21,360
first major challenge uh to individual
rights and seeking to at least identify

977
01:12:19,679 --> 01:12:25,840
the scope of the second amendment for
utilization

978
01:12:22,719 --> 01:12:30,719
um after the new new york state rifle
and pistol association versus new york

979
01:12:27,440 --> 01:12:35,760
city case that was ultimately mooted by
a change in state law to permit for

980
01:12:33,679 --> 01:12:39,600
transport of weapons to and from a
person's primary residence to a

981
01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:45,920
secondary resident uh there were a
number of cases that popped up uh at the

982
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:52,320
supreme court the first nine were almost
out of hand out of hat um shrugged off

983
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:57,280
uh they were dismissed by the supreme
court as not moving forward uh this case

984
01:12:55,120 --> 01:13:03,199
in particular recently popped up when i
say recently it popped up in in march

985
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:08,320
this case is nicerpa versus uh kevin
broon it was previously corlett

986
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:12,960
uh the name of the new york state uh
police superintendent

987
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:17,600
the allegation that has been brought
forward is that new york state's pistol

988
01:13:15,440 --> 01:13:22,159
licensing statute more specifically its
gun laws um impede the utilization of

989
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:26,239
the second amendment that the second
amendment should proceed from a shall

990
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:29,440
issue
uh rather than a may issue and so let me

991
01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:34,960
explain that a little bit so you
understand the distinction

992
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:37,760
um the presumption that many states take
the

993
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:44,400
26 that you're seeing in these
resolutions is that a state must

994
01:13:41,199 --> 01:13:48,159
demonstrate why an applicant should not
have a pistol license rather than force

995
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:52,080
the applicant
to demonstrate why they should be

996
01:13:50,159 --> 01:13:57,920
granted a pistol license or a gun
license and the may issue states like

997
01:13:55,440 --> 01:14:02,400
new york and california continue to work
from that operative provision these

998
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:07,120
proper cause or reasonable cause
requirements within the statute

999
01:14:04,719 --> 01:14:12,480
the shall issue states work from the
belief that everyone should be entitled

1000
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:17,360
until the state demonstrates their own
proper reasoning as to why no license

1001
01:14:15,199 --> 01:14:20,159
should be issued the argument before the
state uh before the united states

1002
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:23,679
supreme court
is that

1003
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:29,679
all states should be operating on a
shall issue basis rather than a may

1004
01:14:26,640 --> 01:14:32,960
issue basis to force the state
demonstrate why

1005
01:14:31,440 --> 01:14:37,199
an individual should not be in
possession of a firearm rather than

1006
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:41,679
force all individuals to demonstrate why
they should be entitled to one um the

1007
01:14:39,440 --> 01:14:45,760
argument is really the first
major second amendment case that appears

1008
01:14:43,679 --> 01:14:51,440
to be headed towards full argument and
full decision uh since the uh heller

1009
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:57,040
case dc versus heller uh they came down
in 2009 and in 2010 chicago versus

1010
01:14:55,120 --> 01:15:01,679
mcdonald's both of those indicated that
the second amendment is an individual

1011
01:14:59,199 --> 01:15:06,640
right and also applicable to states and
local governments so uh by adopting this

1012
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:09,600
resolution the board would be adopting
the arguments that the state of arizona

1013
01:15:08,239 --> 01:15:14,640
and the state of arizona filed its
amethyst brief on july 21st this will be

1014
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:18,640
going to oral argument before the united
states supreme court on november 7.

1015
01:15:19,199 --> 01:15:25,199
thank you
any questions for

1016
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:28,719
our county attorney on this matter
see none all those in favor of the

1017
01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:32,719
resolution
oh i'm sorry mrs purpose yeah i'd like

1018
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:39,120
to thank steve for his uh diligence with
this and uh bringing it forward and i'd

1019
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:41,760
like to be added as a co-sponsor please
anyone else

1020
01:15:51,199 --> 01:15:54,480
co-sponsor please

1021
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:01,280
ready

1022
01:16:04,480 --> 01:16:06,880
all those

1023
01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:23,040
all right next up is uh resolution
considering information technology we

1024
01:16:20,239 --> 01:16:26,640
have chris johnson with us resolution is
authorized in the chair to sign a

1025
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:29,920
contract with usherwood office
technology

1026
01:16:28,239 --> 01:16:34,480
to provide a multi-function device
ladies and management program for st

1027
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,480
lawrence county

1028
01:16:39,679 --> 01:16:44,960
good evening everybody thanks for
letting me attend yet another legislator

1029
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:49,920
meeting
uh the dark consideration uh this

1030
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:53,520
evening i appreciate the opportunity to
bring it forward

1031
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:58,719
is what used to be known as the uh the
every four year copier contract

1032
01:16:56,159 --> 01:17:02,719
is it is has now evolved into
multi-function device

1033
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:06,000
that has
been depended on

1034
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:13,120
as a piece of our technical
infrastructure throughout the county

1035
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:17,920
five years ago we forged a relationship
with pressure wood office technology our

1036
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:24,719
hope was
um to as opposed to just

1037
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:29,920
did this out like widgets we were placed
every so often every four years

1038
01:17:28,159 --> 01:17:33,840
we were hopeful to develop a
relationship

1039
01:17:31,440 --> 01:17:37,840
uh that that could evolve because these
things do so much removal and

1040
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:41,520
what really has
risen to be

1041
01:17:39,440 --> 01:17:46,640
done very well by us
having to settle that now that um and uh

1042
01:17:44,239 --> 01:17:52,480
because of extenuating circumstances a
year ago we are here now five years

1043
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:56,880
after the forking of that contract
and uh they've come forward with a very

1044
01:17:55,040 --> 01:18:02,000
aggressive
very impressive offer

1045
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:05,920
which uh for all intents and purposes
replaces

1046
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:09,440
uh with new machines but we just used to
replace them all

1047
01:18:07,440 --> 01:18:13,120
uh and that's of course a high at a
higher cost

1048
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:16,159
because these units
are

1049
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:20,239
are higher quality
and we're continuing the relationship

1050
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:24,880
with the vendor we have new
opportunities

1051
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:29,280
available to us in this case for the
first time ever we'll be

1052
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:34,159
actually keeping a third of the fleet in
place

1053
01:18:30,719 --> 01:18:38,960
and replacing two-thirds of the fleet uh
with the promise that if any of the ones

1054
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:44,080
not being replaced fail they'll be
replaced at no additional charge

1055
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:47,199
that's going to bring our costs down to
approximately twenty four thousand

1056
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:50,320
dollars a year
um

1057
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:53,840
from what we're paying now and uh
getting two thirds of the units replaced

1058
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:58,640
and they're also
adding net three

1059
01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:03,760
additional machines
really great contract very excited to be

1060
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:03,760
presenting

1061
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:09,040
any questions from mr johnson
seeing

1062
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:23,040
thank you
next up we have a resolution from uh

1063
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:23,040
legislator tony arquette thank you very

1064
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:42,560
i had a good fortune being friends
with a gentleman named dennis banan who

1065
01:19:39,679 --> 01:19:46,719
uh lost his leg a couple years ago and
the snowman relaxed it just up from the

1066
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:51,840
jones road bridge his uh
his life was taken far before his time

1067
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:55,520
uh he was a really good family man
a good friend to many

1068
01:19:53,679 --> 01:19:58,719
if you don't recognize the name you
might have known he was he worked for

1069
01:19:57,360 --> 01:20:02,480
frenchie chevrolet in the service
department

1070
01:19:59,840 --> 01:20:05,280
his entire adulthood i actually ran the
service department for the both of those

1071
01:20:04,159 --> 01:20:09,440
years
um i won't get too motivated into this

1072
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:12,400
because he's got a contingency that's
going to come in on the 13th for the

1073
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:17,920
full board meeting
um but you know just a little bit about

1074
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:21,520
it he was very happy hunter fisherman
outdoorsman

1075
01:20:19,679 --> 01:20:25,600
to the degree that he was the president
of the flower hill hunting club

1076
01:20:23,440 --> 01:20:31,360
sportsman club up in that area
uh spent just decades with his friends

1077
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:34,960
a close circle of friends that continued
to suffer

1078
01:20:32,639 --> 01:20:38,960
regularly over his lives
i appreciate the support on this

1079
01:20:36,480 --> 01:20:38,960
research

1080
01:20:39,440 --> 01:20:48,239
so any discussion
seeing none all those in favor of the

1081
01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:48,239
resolution second by saying i all right

1082
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:58,199
next up uh we have legislator bill
sheridan bill uh mr sheriff would you

1083
01:20:54,480 --> 01:20:58,199
like to read your right solutions

1084
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:08,639
so the first resolution is setting a
date for a public hearing on imposed

1085
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:13,280
local law city
uh number yet to be termed for the year

1086
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:16,639
2021 for setting the salary for the
county attorney

1087
01:21:14,480 --> 01:21:19,280
ruled by mr foresight second minus
lightfoot

1088
01:21:17,920 --> 01:21:22,400
indonesia
and this current

1089
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:24,880
um
discussion

1090
01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:29,760
uh
it's simply setting the date for a

1091
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:32,800
public hearing the
number that has been

1092
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:38,159
uh
suggested and one that i proposed was

1093
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:44,239
the
salary of 158

1094
01:21:40,840 --> 01:21:49,840
000. which was derived as an average
salary

1095
01:21:46,159 --> 01:21:53,520
uh with the other counties that share
with the county training it's also

1096
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:57,280
involved with
the social services and the county

1097
01:21:55,600 --> 01:22:03,040
attorney's office
and those counties are

1098
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:07,120
the first one being erie which was 172
000

1099
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:12,880
and then the other one was uh orange
county 169 000 that's what they're

1100
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:18,320
paying those attorneys
both that we're both has

1101
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:23,120
dutchess county 168 000
and then

1102
01:22:19,440 --> 01:22:27,600
schenectady county was 150 000
in ontario 133 000 so the average of

1103
01:22:26,719 --> 01:22:31,520
those
was 158 000 and i thought that would be

1104
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:38,960
a fair
uh number that we would

1105
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:38,960
agree upon and be fair to the taxpayers

1106
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:59,199
i think it is a lot more than just a
workload

1107
01:22:55,199 --> 01:23:05,360
in my mind it's the level of
understanding it's the level of

1108
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:07,679
the county attorney's knowledge of the
laws

1109
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:12,560
and
his ability to

1110
01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:16,880
uh give this board the best possible
legal advice that we could

1111
01:23:14,719 --> 01:23:22,320
hope to obtain
i think that it is a low figure i think

1112
01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:29,199
if you take a look at what the other
attorneys in the county are charging

1113
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:34,719
uh 200 an hour plus
do the math and figure out what he could

1114
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:38,880
be earning in private practice
and this is one guy that i don't want to

1115
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:42,800
see in private practice i want to see
him representing statements

1116
01:23:43,679 --> 01:23:49,679
thank you mr chairman i have all those
sentiments

1117
01:23:47,199 --> 01:23:53,600
i think that uh that all of us have
certain levels of expertise and

1118
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:57,440
intelligence in certain areas a little
bit less than others

1119
01:23:55,120 --> 01:24:02,400
as far as county government is concerned
i have yet to find where mr buff is not

1120
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:22,639
sorry about that
i i agree with mr lightfoot and mr

1121
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:27,120
arquette i think in many of those
counties the county attorney that we're

1122
01:24:25,440 --> 01:24:31,120
talking about their salary the only
thing they do is keep track of the other

1123
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:35,360
county attorneys where our county
attorney does it all

1124
01:24:33,199 --> 01:24:35,360
but

1125
01:24:35,679 --> 01:24:41,760
i appreciate the idea of giving him a
raise

1126
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:45,440
i just did it more
any more

1127
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:49,679
discussion see none all those payroll
resolutions signify by saying hi

1128
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:52,400
opposed
motion gary

1129
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:59,679
now mr sheridan you read your vessels
yes

1130
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:04,080
chairman i have a resolution of
supporting milf oil reduction efforts uh

1131
01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:08,960
silly silva to cellulite
and the town of fowler modifying the

1132
01:25:06,239 --> 01:25:12,800
2021 budget for sandra county and move
forward

1133
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,800
second

1134
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:32,800
about this issue
concerning that late in the milfoil

1135
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:38,000
problem in that particular way it's
beautiful

1136
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:42,880
and a town supervisor
a follower rick newvine who's also been

1137
01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:48,320
in contact with me with his concerns and
asked for the count of the prosecutors

1138
01:25:46,159 --> 01:25:53,679
of their situation
uh i've been in contract with a lady

1139
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:59,120
who was in charge of the milford
the milfoil uh management fund

1140
01:25:56,719 --> 01:26:04,000
up there and she's been involved in this
uh fight with milfoil for like 20 years

1141
01:26:02,159 --> 01:26:08,880
she tells me she's
knows an awful lot about the issue

1142
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:08,880
and i learned

1143
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:25,440
raising money raising funds
for a while and like for example uh

1144
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:29,840
i think it was
last year they spent eight thousand

1145
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:32,400
dollars they raised eight thousand
dollars

1146
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:36,480
and
then it was matched for sixteen thousand

1147
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:40,639
for two weeks
here that was the year before

1148
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:44,960
and then last year they did the same
thing

1149
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:48,400
uh so they have been putting some effort
in it and raising funds fighting this by

1150
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:53,280
themselves
and they've asked for us to help out

1151
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:59,199
and he worked with uh one of two
companies that do fight this milfoil

1152
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:03,520
uh in this state
and it's owned by a gentleman by the

1153
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:08,239
name of a dominant jew jude and his wife
they own one of the two companies

1154
01:27:06,480 --> 01:27:11,440
and they uh
they're dealing with uh

1155
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:18,800
this company has a
scholarship internship program set up

1156
01:27:17,199 --> 01:27:22,400
for college students
who want to learn how to dive

1157
01:27:21,199 --> 01:27:25,360
and
it's

1158
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:29,199
so they hire these students
to do the work for two weeks on that

1159
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:32,719
particularly
every year

1160
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:38,880
and they're going to do it again next
year probably

1161
01:27:34,719 --> 01:27:41,840
and these students get money for pulling
actually pulling the plants from the

1162
01:27:40,719 --> 01:27:44,080
bottom
of that

1163
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:47,120
lake
and

1164
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:53,199
rather than other
uh ways of harvesting so forth which is

1165
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:58,080
controversial and some say it spreads
the milk oil rather than

1166
01:27:56,000 --> 01:28:03,600
actually takes care of it
and the issue there on that leg it's

1167
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:08,480
like 548 length
is little foils around the edge of that

1168
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:13,199
leg it's not like it is black like it's
not just the edges so they have a little

1169
01:28:11,440 --> 01:28:17,199
bit more
optimistic view

1170
01:28:14,719 --> 01:28:21,040
of beating this
because it is on the shoreline

1171
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:26,639
and it's in the
shallow water the lake is actually deep

1172
01:28:24,159 --> 01:28:30,080
so it's okay down in the deeper areas
but it's along the shoreline that

1173
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:33,040
they're concerned about one end of in
particular

1174
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:38,080
and so they
their idea is this company's idea is to

1175
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:43,239
pull those
milfoil plants early on

1176
01:28:43,679 --> 01:28:49,199
and then it won't grow
it takes two and a half years to grow

1177
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:54,320
one of those plants so it actually
reaches the surface of water

1178
01:28:51,360 --> 01:29:00,480
so if they get it early they tell us
they'll make uh and what they've learned

1179
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:04,560
is is that that flame one plant once it
goes out and flowers on the water that's

1180
01:29:02,480 --> 01:29:11,040
when the seeds start
producing and making more

1181
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:14,480
so they did it before this early stages
and because they've been doing this for

1182
01:29:12,880 --> 01:29:17,360
a while
they've started a pretty good battle on

1183
01:29:16,480 --> 01:29:22,159
it
and they these kids who they have like

1184
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:26,719
four per pontoon boat that worked on
this

1185
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:30,639
project uh will collect uh up to
thousands of pounds of milfoil in just a

1186
01:29:29,199 --> 01:29:37,280
day
and uh and they uh they put them in

1187
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:42,239
these like huge bags and they they take
over the boat ramp and

1188
01:29:39,280 --> 01:29:46,880
trucks them in uh and other farmers
bought that

1189
01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:51,280
stuff they pulled out the milfoil for
chicken feed filled laundry's not near

1190
01:29:49,679 --> 01:29:57,120
body of water
and uh and other they use it for other

1191
01:29:54,159 --> 01:30:02,400
things as well so it works out that way
quite well for them they they've really

1192
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:08,320
been giving an effort to uh
fight it out there so they're asking for

1193
01:30:04,639 --> 01:30:12,960
some help and uh so i explained to him
that it might not be something that

1194
01:30:10,639 --> 01:30:17,040
is going to be on a
a yearly thing for us

1195
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:20,320
i explained that
there's some of us on this board feeling

1196
01:30:18,719 --> 01:30:23,679
that it should be up to the state of new
york and the dec and the federal

1197
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:27,840
government can take care of our lakes
and our streams in the state of new york

1198
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:31,280
county governments
so they understand that but they would

1199
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:33,679
like a helping hand
and

1200
01:30:32,480 --> 01:30:38,960
the
figure we came up with is a half of what

1201
01:30:36,480 --> 01:30:44,400
we talked about for uh
and that last resolution mr presented

1202
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:48,800
and that i supported
and uh but that's that's a bigger link

1203
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:51,120
it's like 27 miles
long

1204
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:56,480
that's right
and this is only 504 acres

1205
01:30:54,080 --> 01:31:00,239
it's it's not as big of a lake
as they say you've got the deep water in

1206
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:04,880
the center it doesn't have the issues so
we covered the thousand dollar figure

1207
01:31:02,639 --> 01:31:08,320
and that would help them go a long way
uh for next year

1208
01:31:06,719 --> 01:31:15,040
uh so
and uh so i asked for your support on it

1209
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:19,679
any uh any discussion or questions
mrs

1210
01:31:16,480 --> 01:31:24,000
thank you mr chairman i'd be inclined to
support this but i'm having a hard time

1211
01:31:22,159 --> 01:31:28,960
understanding
where exactly the fifteen thousand

1212
01:31:26,000 --> 01:31:33,679
dollars go does it go to
pulling the weeds or

1213
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:36,480
i don't need to call something weed it's
not a weed but it sounds like a weed

1214
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:43,120
okay
pulling the weeds or studying it or how

1215
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:48,560
specifically do they spend that money
uh it's actually just

1216
01:31:46,159 --> 01:31:53,120
it's used to pay
the

1217
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:58,639
people who are working for the company
uh who are on that pontoon

1218
01:31:56,159 --> 01:32:03,760
who i think spend like eight hours under
water per day and another three hours on

1219
01:32:01,360 --> 01:32:08,239
the top of the water
taking the uh the stuff that's been

1220
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:12,080
chopped up by the props where the heavy
set fishing area is because they've got

1221
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:17,679
to try to get stuck that the props are
chopped up and that's what it is that

1222
01:32:14,960 --> 01:32:20,960
uh makes the oil grow
uh so they clean that up for another

1223
01:32:19,520 --> 01:32:24,159
three hours so
i'm from what i understand it's like a

1224
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:27,920
12 hour day
and it goes on for two weeks period

1225
01:32:28,639 --> 01:32:35,920
mr ford says yeah do we have a
percentage of

1226
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:41,560
how much of the milk oil they do in that
two-week spent through extended

1227
01:32:38,560 --> 01:32:41,560
percentage

1228
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:57,679
like
they didn't tell me a percentage other

1229
01:32:56,239 --> 01:33:05,120
than they're saying they're pulling up
30 to 35 big huge uh net bags of

1230
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:08,719
this milfoil plant on a daily basis
that's over a thousand pounds

1231
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:18,719
they're still young
and that's where they think they can get

1232
01:33:16,480 --> 01:33:22,800
ahead of the game by getting stuck
keeping up with it the

1233
01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:25,920
the reason i asked
i missed the governor when i wanted to

1234
01:33:24,560 --> 01:33:30,080
talk on this
fair one especially i was there when uh

1235
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:35,480
senator schumer came to black lake
several years ago and he was at the

1236
01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:35,480
flanders right

1237
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:51,199
um
to me it's a band-aid fix

1238
01:33:48,480 --> 01:33:55,520
sam is just about every effort has been
a mandate fixed um

1239
01:33:53,440 --> 01:33:59,120
it came to me the other day uh mr
campbell came in

1240
01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:05,639
regarding
the water testing

1241
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:05,639
that's gonna be the next one

1242
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:23,120
where do we start where we stop and what
effect does it truly happen i know

1243
01:34:21,199 --> 01:34:27,520
there's an effort um
with the 28 000 now i've heard that

1244
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:31,520
they're not even going to utilize it
this year to do

1245
01:34:29,280 --> 01:34:36,000
all that channel they're going to use a
portion of it and save it for next year

1246
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:41,360
so we just write blank checks to all
these places with the species

1247
01:34:39,440 --> 01:34:45,199
i don't know um
margaret asked the question who gets the

1248
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:49,600
money so are we just going to write a
check for 15 000 the sylvian lake

1249
01:34:47,199 --> 01:34:52,480
association i don't know
once you do one you're going to do them

1250
01:34:51,440 --> 01:34:56,080
all
and you're going to find out how many

1251
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:59,800
invasive species there are in the lakes
county and at one time

1252
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:16,080
and i support blacklight i've supported
it as a business owner for years

1253
01:35:13,440 --> 01:35:18,639
with their hand pictures and sponsored
fish every year

1254
01:35:17,600 --> 01:35:22,560
so
you know i i feel it but

1255
01:35:21,119 --> 01:35:25,760
we're not the body that should be doing
this

1256
01:35:23,440 --> 01:35:30,320
if this was to retain to help them
retain

1257
01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:34,960
someone would be a bigger benefactor a
matching fun type thing which it sounds

1258
01:35:32,480 --> 01:35:39,280
a little bit like in the resolution
i may support it a little bit

1259
01:35:37,119 --> 01:35:43,199
but to just go pull a few weeds which
i'm guessing it's probably two to three

1260
01:35:40,719 --> 01:35:46,000
percent of the weight
i think it's just

1261
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:48,239
utah
i'll help

1262
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:50,800
good
let's do it

1263
01:35:52,960 --> 01:35:56,960
that's the first i've heard you're not
going to

1264
01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:06,159
and i will certainly look into it
but uh i think that uh

1265
01:36:03,440 --> 01:36:13,040
legislative forces
it needs to be a

1266
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:16,880
an effort not uh you know peace meal uh
blacklight this year

1267
01:36:14,719 --> 01:36:20,639
so be like next year nor would like the
year after

1268
01:36:18,239 --> 01:36:26,639
uh with that in mind
i've reached out to the dbc

1269
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:32,159
i've reached out to clarkson university
i've reached out to

1270
01:36:28,960 --> 01:36:36,840
the chambers of commerce on black lake
the towns that surround black lake

1271
01:36:35,679 --> 01:36:41,520
the
uh i have it in my calendar to reach out

1272
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:46,560
to the
superintendent

1273
01:36:43,199 --> 01:36:51,360
of the town minerva in essex county
uh the reason for that is because that

1274
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:56,239
is i think i mentioned that there's one
of the links in the adirondacks

1275
01:36:53,360 --> 01:36:59,520
that is being treated chemically
by

1276
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:04,960
an applicator
licensed by the dbc to

1277
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:04,960
do such thing

1278
01:37:05,199 --> 01:37:12,159
i don't know the name of the chemical
that they're uh treating with

1279
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:15,760
but what i am told
is that

1280
01:37:13,360 --> 01:37:21,119
they have had a great deal of success
with it it doesn't eradicate it

1281
01:37:19,119 --> 01:37:25,679
it
holds it in check more than anything

1282
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:31,520
else eliminates it
for a period of one or two years i'm

1283
01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:36,639
told and it will come back if
something is not done to continue

1284
01:37:34,320 --> 01:37:41,440
i've also asked and i've been in
consultation with the board chair

1285
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:46,080
i've also asked the
planning department

1286
01:37:43,119 --> 01:37:50,560
and the environmental management council
to take the lead in

1287
01:37:48,719 --> 01:37:53,040
spearheading an effort a countywide
effort

1288
01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:57,520
to
look for grants

1289
01:37:54,560 --> 01:38:02,320
and dr twist at clarkson university the
head of the biology department

1290
01:37:59,679 --> 01:38:07,199
is the gentleman that conducted the last
survey on martin light

1291
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:10,960
that report will be issued here within
the next couple of months

1292
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:14,960
he is also familiar with the grant
process

1293
01:38:12,080 --> 01:38:19,360
and applied for and received the grant
to study the issue on

1294
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:23,280
norwood lake
uh

1295
01:38:20,159 --> 01:38:27,040
he's interested in participating in this
uh so i think

1296
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:32,320
the more
that we have the wider

1297
01:38:29,360 --> 01:38:35,840
network cast to get interested people in
the county

1298
01:38:33,440 --> 01:38:40,719
on board with this and i think
getting the emc and planning on board

1299
01:38:38,639 --> 01:38:43,440
with it and agreeing at least in the
concept

1300
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:48,639
to
be the driving force behind it it can't

1301
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:52,880
be an individual chevy group
and

1302
01:38:50,159 --> 01:38:56,000
i think that once
we see what is available

1303
01:38:55,119 --> 01:39:00,000
and
through some of these other

1304
01:38:57,679 --> 01:39:03,280
environmental organizations
that uh

1305
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:06,480
have as their
charge

1306
01:39:04,480 --> 01:39:10,800
looking at invasive species on the
eastern end of lake ontario and the

1307
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:15,199
saint lawrence river
that uh

1308
01:39:12,880 --> 01:39:18,480
you know we stand a pretty good chance
of at least getting a better

1309
01:39:16,719 --> 01:39:22,560
understanding of this stuff
and uh hopefully

1310
01:39:20,159 --> 01:39:25,840
in uh the years to come
uh

1311
01:39:23,679 --> 01:39:31,600
you know with a lot with enough
scientific minds looking at this

1312
01:39:28,480 --> 01:39:36,400
uh in interest on the part of property
owners and uh governments such as st

1313
01:39:34,239 --> 01:39:40,880
lawrence county and the townships that
surround these lakes

1314
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:46,719
that we will be able to get a better
handle on it and hopefully something

1315
01:39:43,840 --> 01:39:50,560
will come that will enable us to
eradicate

1316
01:39:48,480 --> 01:39:55,199
these issues
the whole point is is that

1317
01:39:52,960 --> 01:40:00,560
yeah we can sit back and
lament the fact that at this point in

1318
01:39:57,679 --> 01:40:05,760
time there's nothing we can do to
eradicate this stuff but by the same

1319
01:40:03,119 --> 01:40:10,639
token just to let it go
if not going to uh

1320
01:40:09,360 --> 01:40:16,159
further us
in pushing us down the road

1321
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:18,960
for for developing some way to eradicate
it

1322
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:18,960
so

1323
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:26,800
i i just hope that this would allay some
fears that we're going to spend

1324
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:32,000
you know 40 50 000
worth of taxpayers money and not seeing

1325
01:40:29,440 --> 01:40:37,760
any results i'm hoping that this will be
the start of something and that

1326
01:40:35,199 --> 01:40:41,679
somewhere down the road there will be a
good ending to this stuff

1327
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:45,040
yeah but
you know what i i think there's a

1328
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:50,080
different other component to this that
we're making an effort to preserve some

1329
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:53,360
of our richest property value that we
have in the county

1330
01:40:51,440 --> 01:40:56,880
secondly
um i believe that the individual that

1331
01:40:55,280 --> 01:41:02,840
turned sheridan is speaking to the
spearheading the fundraising efforts is

1332
01:40:58,719 --> 01:41:07,280
gene dodds that's caroline yes her
legislator haggard's question i've

1333
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:11,679
worked with jane in a different capacity
for her and i

1334
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:16,880
for a number of years and i can i can
tell you that she will be diligent

1335
01:41:13,920 --> 01:41:19,040
in her task if she's overseeing that she
will

1336
01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:28,320
thank you mr chairman i agree with dave

1337
01:41:28,480 --> 01:41:33,679
and mr lightfoot and mr
but

1338
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:37,440
i think
it's a great idea

1339
01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:41,600
that we're we're looking into this but i
don't think we're the body to do it i do

1340
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:49,119
think maybe
like mr life has reached out to numerous

1341
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:51,520
organizations i i think that's great
i think we're going down a slippery

1342
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:55,840
slope
there's dave says there's 46 bodies of

1343
01:41:54,080 --> 01:42:01,040
water i know there's at least
five in colton

1344
01:41:57,440 --> 01:42:06,800
three in periscope one in hopkinton
i mean that's just some of my district

1345
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:10,639
we're all having the same issues
where are we going to start doling out

1346
01:42:08,719 --> 01:42:17,760
to all these
places that's my concern

1347
01:42:14,480 --> 01:42:22,400
the state just purchased 8 000 acres for
4.1 million dollars i believe put in a

1348
01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:27,040
conservation easement
i'd rather have them taking that money

1349
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:32,480
and putting it into actually the
conservation of these waters and looking

1350
01:42:30,000 --> 01:42:36,639
into that i think that's we need to look
to that and other methods is

1351
01:42:37,280 --> 01:42:42,639
like
the chemicals and stuff

1352
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:48,800
i know in some of the southern states
they do use chemicals to get rid of uh

1353
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:54,080
the invasive species there's many
different types

1354
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:56,960
and it does so without harming the fish
and things like that

1355
01:42:55,520 --> 01:43:01,360
we need to do something because our
waterways are tourism

1356
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:06,000
and so i do agree but i just don't think
this is the right way to go about it so

1357
01:43:03,199 --> 01:43:11,040
i won't support this one either
let's just know this uh i would agree

1358
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:15,119
that this is a difficult problem we do
need to try to

1359
01:43:12,560 --> 01:43:19,600
protect our resources
but i'm not sure that it's

1360
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:24,800
up to just us to do that
the homeowners are doing something

1361
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:24,800
that's great i think

1362
01:43:34,239 --> 01:43:38,520
do you have any figures uh

1363
01:43:50,719 --> 01:43:55,119
does that mean that they won't
uh

1364
01:43:53,920 --> 01:44:00,800
no
maybe if i approach them i think reality

1365
01:43:58,639 --> 01:44:04,880
my guess would be if we were going to
help out then maybe the town would

1366
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:07,119
as well help
so

1367
01:44:08,719 --> 01:44:18,639
thank you mr chairman without getting
into crosstalk um i'd say to mr um

1368
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:23,119
lightfoot thank you very much for all
that work because that's calling a lot

1369
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:27,440
of people i too reached out to a couple
people at clarkson

1370
01:44:25,040 --> 01:44:32,000
and there's a complicated and way over
my head away going about this and they

1371
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:35,840
have the expertise and i'm delighted
that

1372
01:44:32,800 --> 01:44:40,080
he spoke to professor twiss about that
because i his name did come up with

1373
01:44:38,239 --> 01:44:44,560
people that i was speaking to
i would thank um mr lightbrook for that

1374
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:50,000
that being said
i agree with mr forsyth

1375
01:44:47,199 --> 01:44:56,000
um the problem is this is here this is
now and they have

1376
01:44:52,800 --> 01:45:01,679
um come to us and asked us we've given
it to one municipality they have a

1377
01:44:58,239 --> 01:45:07,840
solution that sounds like it fits in
with the little i know

1378
01:45:04,239 --> 01:45:12,400
um about this being ecologically sound
and that's why i ask the question more

1379
01:45:10,080 --> 01:45:17,360
about the money than anything else
is if they want to mow it down don't let

1380
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:21,280
them do that because that's one thing i
learned that's a no-no it just makes the

1381
01:45:20,159 --> 01:45:26,239
stuff
go crazy but

1382
01:45:24,000 --> 01:45:31,280
more to the point um
mr lightfoot's approach is how we have

1383
01:45:29,199 --> 01:45:35,840
to go because maybe we draw the line
right here i'm going to vote for this

1384
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:41,199
because i think they have come up with a
good resolution to the immediate problem

1385
01:45:39,119 --> 01:45:45,440
and it takes a while to study these
things in the meantime all this damage

1386
01:45:43,440 --> 01:45:50,320
is being done and if we can
contribute somewhat getting it

1387
01:45:48,159 --> 01:45:54,800
under control for this year i think
that's a good thing

1388
01:45:51,760 --> 01:45:58,400
but once again i appreciate how much joe
did

1389
01:45:55,600 --> 01:46:03,040
looking into this and um
i will certainly if

1390
01:46:01,040 --> 01:46:06,880
i'd love to be involved in helping out
but i'll certainly bring back any

1391
01:46:04,639 --> 01:46:12,000
information to
the town and the village pod stamp too

1392
01:46:10,159 --> 01:46:16,800
uh if there's anything that they can do
because i'm we have a lot of water

1393
01:46:14,159 --> 01:46:22,320
we all have a lot of water thank you
that's great

1394
01:46:18,880 --> 01:46:25,719
mr i'm going to support this
but i would

1395
01:46:27,440 --> 01:46:35,840
i really believe that we need to develop
a county-wide comprehensive plan

1396
01:46:34,719 --> 01:46:41,760
uh
in which

1397
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:47,840
when the 36 different bodies of water
come to us

1398
01:46:43,199 --> 01:46:51,119
that we have criteria that we have
rules

1399
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:54,880
on how much the property owners are
going to

1400
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:57,840
put up is their match how much the local
governments are going to put up is their

1401
01:46:56,800 --> 01:46:59,440
match
and

1402
01:46:58,639 --> 01:47:01,280
uh
whether

1403
01:47:00,239 --> 01:47:05,760
an
attempt to get grant funding when that's

1404
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:10,239
possible
um

1405
01:47:07,520 --> 01:47:10,239
which is why

1406
01:47:10,480 --> 01:47:15,920
i really believe
that uh the environmental management

1407
01:47:14,719 --> 01:47:19,040
council
needs to

1408
01:47:17,440 --> 01:47:25,280
make this
their major priority

1409
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:29,520
because we've got a lot of lakes and
rivers in this county

1410
01:47:27,679 --> 01:47:33,199
and
by bringing

1411
01:47:30,719 --> 01:47:38,880
dr twist who i know who's the head of
the great rivers institute at clarkson

1412
01:47:35,920 --> 01:47:45,840
and you know our scientific community
involved

1413
01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:45,840
it can help us develop a uh

1414
01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:53,840
real plan
a rational plan

1415
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:58,880
and one that maximizes our resources
as opposed to the current

1416
01:47:57,280 --> 01:48:03,600
one shots
that

1417
01:48:01,040 --> 01:48:09,840
don't really
address anything and don't

1418
01:48:06,560 --> 01:48:13,040
provide us with any hope that we're not
going to be back

1419
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:16,800
uh
10 months from now

1420
01:48:14,719 --> 01:48:21,920
dealing with the same question with the
same bodies of water

1421
01:48:18,719 --> 01:48:25,520
with you know no answers and
the uh

1422
01:48:23,199 --> 01:48:31,199
you know the
many adrenaline communities have used

1423
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:34,560
the herbicide that uh
has been uh mentioned

1424
01:48:33,679 --> 01:48:42,239
and
you know it's been found

1425
01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:42,239
that it works and it doesn't harm the uh

1426
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:48,880
rest of the
ecosystem uh

1427
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:51,440
the
but of course

1428
01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:57,440
um
it takes a lot of education and

1429
01:48:54,639 --> 01:48:57,440
uh some

1430
01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:02,719
leg associations are not going to ever
agree to it

1431
01:49:01,119 --> 01:49:06,320
you know so
uh

1432
01:49:04,719 --> 01:49:12,000
having the environmental management
council take a look at

1433
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:16,800
the blacklink study the norwood study
other studies that uh have been done

1434
01:49:15,679 --> 01:49:21,199
um
to try and come up with a

1435
01:49:21,440 --> 01:49:32,159
you know ranked choices of what works
what has the biggest bang for his buck

1436
01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:35,840
uh is fighting and you know
um

1437
01:49:34,239 --> 01:49:40,560
the i i
would ask uh

1438
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:43,360
our county planning director if he's
uh watching tonight

1439
01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:46,239
um
to

1440
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:51,199
uh
you know

1441
01:49:47,599 --> 01:49:55,440
we need to assign this as a task
and bring

1442
01:49:53,440 --> 01:50:01,679
these minds together
and come up with a real plan

1443
01:49:58,719 --> 01:50:05,760
on what we're doing and how we're doing
it and

1444
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:09,440
so each of these communities
when

1445
01:50:07,119 --> 01:50:14,639
they come and put you put the arm on us
and say do something for

1446
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:20,080
you name it like
you know we can say okay

1447
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:23,199
you know here's the criteria here's what
your

1448
01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:26,719
property owners group is going to have
to contribute here's what your talent is

1449
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:30,639
going to have to
contribute and here's what you can

1450
01:50:28,639 --> 01:50:35,360
expect from us
as our our contribution

1451
01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:40,880
yeah
any other discussion

1452
01:50:39,119 --> 01:50:47,040
i'll be voting against resolution
although i do appreciate the method of

1453
01:50:44,239 --> 01:50:50,639
actually pulling the wheatworks uh
you know it's limited you don't do the

1454
01:50:48,719 --> 01:50:55,119
whole lake so i don't know what the rate
of spread is i believe i voted against

1455
01:50:53,280 --> 01:51:00,320
the black late one because the
harvesting the way that it actually

1456
01:50:57,679 --> 01:51:04,320
doubles the actual problem
the other arguments have been made every

1457
01:51:02,480 --> 01:51:07,199
body of water has some type of invasive
species this is a lot bigger than san

1458
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:12,080
orance county
i will remark that any herbicide that is

1459
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:15,840
used actually becomes resistance i
failed to

1460
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:20,239
have to see the actual work but i doubt
that not everything survives after

1461
01:51:17,679 --> 01:51:23,520
putting herbicide in a body of water
something else dies

1462
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:28,239
i can guarantee it
so um i'm concerned uh much like uh

1463
01:51:27,440 --> 01:51:33,360
our
legislative perkins and mr foresight

1464
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:37,440
will it be that we spend money here and
then the next one i mean i jokingly

1465
01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:40,560
called up mr uh lightfoot after seeing
bill sheridan's

1466
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:44,480
resolution and i told him that my
neighbor's pool had no foil it would

1467
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:49,040
need sponsor resolution take it out but
i don't see it here it's just a

1468
01:51:46,159 --> 01:51:49,040
sarcastic joke

1469
01:51:57,119 --> 01:52:03,840
i do
uh i just want to say that uh the topic

1470
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:03,840
that

1471
01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:14,639
legislator reagan uh suggested
is the whole idea behind this is to get

1472
01:52:09,679 --> 01:52:20,639
the expertise of uh everybody uh get the
support of the public get the support of

1473
01:52:17,199 --> 01:52:25,199
the balance and keep going i'm not
i'm not going to sit here and say that

1474
01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:30,159
the planning board and the emc ought to
be

1475
01:52:26,480 --> 01:52:33,920
telling the towns or the county
how much money

1476
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:38,159
if any is going to be devoted to this or
should be and how much uh each

1477
01:52:36,560 --> 01:52:43,520
individual town
uh you know per capita ought to be

1478
01:52:40,639 --> 01:52:47,920
contributing to this i think that you've
got organizations you've got a

1479
01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:52,960
partnership with a regional invasive
species management that's called prism

1480
01:52:50,639 --> 01:52:55,280
that handles that eastern lake ontario
st north river

1481
01:52:54,480 --> 01:53:01,360
uh
corridor that i'm talking about they are

1482
01:52:58,159 --> 01:53:07,119
into grants uh and uh
in innovative ways of financing these

1483
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:12,880
things so it isn't something that i
certainly don't want to see the county

1484
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:17,040
get saddled with uh
you know being the piggy bank or

1485
01:53:14,800 --> 01:53:23,760
something like this why do i think that
we can't expect the towns to do the same

1486
01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:27,599
you've got towns of town rossi
has

1487
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:34,159
about 800 people that
uh you can't expect the town of rossi is

1488
01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:39,199
going to pony up significant monies to
address this kind of an issue it's got

1489
01:53:36,639 --> 01:53:43,119
to be done as dave said through the
federal government through the state

1490
01:53:40,800 --> 01:53:46,560
government those are the two entities
that

1491
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:54,960
we should be concentrating on
to fund whatever needs to be funded to

1492
01:53:51,040 --> 01:54:00,239
control if not eradicate this and that's
that's my feeling i think that getting

1493
01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:03,119
dr chris on board
with something like this somebody who

1494
01:54:02,239 --> 01:54:09,199
has
uh experience in obtaining grants who

1495
01:54:06,159 --> 01:54:12,960
has had success in obtaining grants from
the dbc

1496
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:16,960
that uh it's a big step
and uh

1497
01:54:14,960 --> 01:54:24,080
i think what it will need is a little
bit of time to see how it works

1498
01:54:19,760 --> 01:54:27,840
i'm hoping that next year by this time
things will be well underway

1499
01:54:26,480 --> 01:54:33,199
towards
you know some serious investment in

1500
01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:35,280
time and energy and if it takes money
money

1501
01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:39,599
to
get rid of the problem because like tony

1502
01:54:37,440 --> 01:54:44,080
said
people's waterfront gets clogged up with

1503
01:54:42,239 --> 01:54:46,000
this stuff and i think dave mentioned it
too

1504
01:54:44,880 --> 01:54:49,840
that
property values are going to decrease

1505
01:54:48,159 --> 01:54:54,159
already on black blacklight people are
looking at reductions in their

1506
01:54:51,679 --> 01:54:58,400
assessments and i can't you can't blame
them at all they can't use the water in

1507
01:54:56,000 --> 01:55:01,199
front of their camp with this
so

1508
01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:03,360
one other thing
is also

1509
01:55:02,560 --> 01:55:09,119
uh
inquiring of the ddc

1510
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:13,199
what uh they can do to
eradicate

1511
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:17,440
uh or lessen the effects of some of the
invasive species that they're starting

1512
01:55:15,360 --> 01:55:20,320
to see on the river one of those
happened to be in boost bay

1513
01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:25,119
down
in jefferson county where they did use

1514
01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:30,320
the chemicals they did
they want to say eradicate it but they

1515
01:55:26,960 --> 01:55:36,639
really cut it down tremendously
so uh and then one last point you

1516
01:55:33,679 --> 01:55:40,719
mentioned that half of the uh
the stuff that gets cut up close down

1517
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:44,960
the river there's no evidence to that at
all there's evidence that

1518
01:55:43,040 --> 01:55:50,080
some of it once it's
not chopped up it's cut off

1519
01:55:47,599 --> 01:55:55,840
uh that yes if you cut something you may
get a particular particle or a leaf or a

1520
01:55:53,679 --> 01:56:00,400
piece of the
vegetation that is going to separate

1521
01:55:58,560 --> 01:56:05,920
from what you're harvesting and what's
left and float down the river but it

1522
01:56:02,960 --> 01:56:10,800
doesn't by any means meaning that
half of what you harvest is getting cut

1523
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:13,520
out and floating out into the same large
or whatever

1524
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:17,840
so
i i just cautioned you on uh you know

1525
01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:21,440
using
you know what we think is a good measure

1526
01:56:20,080 --> 01:56:27,440
uh
in any event hopefully

1527
01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:29,760
with the county board with the interests
of the other people

1528
01:56:28,960 --> 01:56:35,280
with
uh the scientific people with the dec

1529
01:56:33,199 --> 01:56:37,920
with the federal government we can do
something to

1530
01:56:38,080 --> 01:56:44,960
not eradicate it but ameliorate
so there wasn't any talk about stuff

1531
01:56:43,440 --> 01:56:48,960
floating down the river it's when you
cut it

1532
01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:52,000
or was one head two heads appear
i think that was mr perkins allegation

1533
01:56:50,960 --> 01:56:58,320
that when we were talking about your
resolution mr tunisia there's nothing

1534
01:56:54,480 --> 01:57:03,360
scientific that i found that would
lend greetings to that

1535
01:57:00,560 --> 01:57:03,360
mr denison

1536
01:57:04,239 --> 01:57:11,040
it's been said and i i mentioned that if
it doesn't repair when we were

1537
01:57:34,239 --> 01:57:40,480
i think it's good that we do something
because it does it does impact us

1538
01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:40,480
however

1539
01:57:40,560 --> 01:57:46,320
i am concerned
that uh you know we've done it for

1540
01:57:45,119 --> 01:57:50,560
black lake
uh i'm going to

1541
01:57:48,400 --> 01:57:53,440
take a little bit
of favor

1542
01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:58,159
[Music]
uh i think it's the right thing to do

1543
01:57:55,920 --> 01:57:58,159
but

1544
01:57:58,480 --> 01:58:03,520
i'm not sure
but how many bodies of water we've got

1545
01:58:04,080 --> 01:58:11,520
so everybody continues
says i would like to get an 8 000.

1546
01:58:10,560 --> 01:58:15,040
whatever
uh

1547
01:58:12,639 --> 01:58:21,480
significant amount of money uh i would
like to suggest

1548
01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:21,480
uh in a legislator

1549
01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:30,840
involved

1550
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:47,400
uh

1551
01:58:48,560 --> 01:58:52,320
um any more funding

1552
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:58,080
uh
i think that's necessary to do that

1553
01:58:57,040 --> 01:59:00,480
if you don't
have

1554
01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:04,880
and
and with the moratorium it would be uh

1555
01:59:06,320 --> 01:59:10,800
thought that we would
hand this over to the environmental

1556
01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:15,159
management council
uh but the people that would be involved

1557
01:59:16,320 --> 01:59:23,840
mr foresight this just logistics
question the whole board meeting will be

1558
01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:28,080
september 13th
the funds will be available after

1559
01:59:25,360 --> 01:59:31,440
september 13th
and it's not on uh

1560
01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:37,520
whether they spent it
or inverters it's just we're gonna check

1561
01:59:35,599 --> 01:59:44,199
what we're planning on just whatever the
account

1562
01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:44,199
is that the assumption i don't yeah

1563
01:59:44,320 --> 01:59:49,679
unless the resolution
prescribed a certain way or a certain

1564
01:59:48,159 --> 01:59:56,719
reconciliation or any of those types of
things it would get submitted invoicing

1565
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:59,040
okay so they have to submit an invoice
okay

1566
02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:20,560
i don't know
whether this money

1567
02:00:18,560 --> 02:00:24,000
can be
used this year it's getting late

1568
02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:27,280
and then
they also she also talked about the

1569
02:00:26,080 --> 02:00:30,560
covet
issue

1570
02:00:28,400 --> 02:00:34,320
so uh i was
under the impression that

1571
02:00:32,239 --> 02:00:38,800
we would when i told her in no uncertain
terms probably not going to be happening

1572
02:00:36,159 --> 02:00:38,800
in the future

1573
02:00:39,360 --> 02:00:46,800
don't expect it to be something that's
going to happen here but i said we'll

1574
02:00:43,199 --> 02:00:49,119
try to help you that's also mentioned
uh

1575
02:00:50,080 --> 02:00:57,440
i think we can roller if you don't spend
it this year then it'll count for next

1576
02:00:55,040 --> 02:01:01,280
year's uh
effort

1577
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:04,320
at this particular time you know it's
really pushing you thinking they're

1578
02:01:02,480 --> 02:01:07,599
going to take care of all these next
months

1579
02:01:05,520 --> 02:01:11,760
so i think that i don't know i have to
get an opinion from the

1580
02:01:09,599 --> 02:01:17,119
attorney here maybe we know right here
can be used for next year

1581
02:01:14,800 --> 02:01:17,119
that's why

1582
02:01:18,400 --> 02:01:23,920
i
and i and i will tell you now that

1583
02:01:21,360 --> 02:01:28,239
that's what they will be using next year
not this year

1584
02:01:26,480 --> 02:01:33,760
so that way you would have a couple of
options in terms of providing each other

1585
02:01:30,719 --> 02:01:37,119
next year budgeting accordingly or on
their end if you were to provide it to

1586
02:01:35,280 --> 02:01:40,239
them this year they could
roll those funds over in their project

1587
02:01:38,880 --> 02:01:43,920
that would not be ours we would make a
payment and that would be

1588
02:01:41,840 --> 02:01:47,520
the conclusion of our interaction on
that transaction the other thing

1589
02:01:48,159 --> 02:01:54,480
i don't think that
that group can

1590
02:01:52,239 --> 02:01:59,440
accept the funds it would have to be run
through the town of power

1591
02:01:56,639 --> 02:01:59,440
and then they would

1592
02:01:59,599 --> 02:02:04,679
spend the funds on behalf of that
organization

1593
02:02:16,159 --> 02:02:19,320
at all

1594
02:02:19,920 --> 02:02:25,440
officially
so we asked for

1595
02:02:23,840 --> 02:02:30,480
a good market
anyone else

1596
02:02:27,840 --> 02:02:35,040
so i'll just reiterate
the two solutions the black lake i think

1597
02:02:32,800 --> 02:02:40,480
was faulty in the methodology of
actually the problem

1598
02:02:37,199 --> 02:02:44,639
uh i think as mr forsythe pointed out
what percentage of delays you don't get

1599
02:02:42,080 --> 02:02:49,840
at all how much spreads
i like the idea but the biggest thing is

1600
02:02:48,320 --> 02:02:54,400
this problem is so much bigger to say
look county is statewide it's not even

1601
02:02:51,679 --> 02:02:54,400
just statewide

1602
02:02:54,719 --> 02:03:00,800
and so
the monies the research and everything

1603
02:02:59,360 --> 02:03:04,159
is much bigger than the planning
department much bigger than our local

1604
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:07,840
ufc
and uh

1605
02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:10,960
i think that by reaching out to the our
local efforts that david we can

1606
02:03:09,280 --> 02:03:14,960
stimulate some action on the federal
level

1607
02:03:12,159 --> 02:03:19,199
but this is going to be a runaway uh
moratorium means my uh neighbor's

1608
02:03:16,880 --> 02:03:22,000
getting covered larry so
it's just

1609
02:03:20,159 --> 02:03:26,000
it'll be one thing after another in fact
it's how it follows that but then it is

1610
02:03:24,000 --> 02:03:28,960
very discouraging also so
let's vote on this

1611
02:03:27,520 --> 02:03:33,280
um
let's do uh

1612
02:03:30,320 --> 02:03:33,280
a roll couple please

1613
02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:44,880
reagan yes
foresight no

1614
02:03:42,960 --> 02:03:48,159
lightfoot
sheridan yes

1615
02:03:46,960 --> 02:03:52,079
smithers
yes

1616
02:03:49,520 --> 02:03:52,079
denisha

1617
02:03:52,719 --> 02:04:00,079
perkins no
acres faye

1618
02:03:58,000 --> 02:04:05,360
i'm sorry
haggard yes

1619
02:04:02,239 --> 02:04:05,360
piaco yes

1620
02:04:05,679 --> 02:04:11,840
yes
terminelli yes

1621
02:04:10,560 --> 02:04:14,000
curran
no

1622
02:04:22,320 --> 02:04:28,320
nine yes
five no one absent okay so the

1623
02:04:26,079 --> 02:04:33,760
resolution passes
so let's move on to vacancy review

1624
02:04:30,239 --> 02:04:38,000
committee mr chair yes i'd like to offer
verbal resolution if i could

1625
02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:59,119
on spending um towards an invasive
species until after we have

1626
02:04:56,719 --> 02:05:03,360
had a study done through all the things
that um

1627
02:05:00,639 --> 02:05:06,960
legislator
has

1628
02:05:04,320 --> 02:05:06,960
suggested

1629
02:05:15,119 --> 02:05:18,679
is it just aquatic

1630
02:05:21,760 --> 02:05:24,859
[Music]

1631
02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:35,000
is

1632
02:05:43,199 --> 02:05:49,920
until we've gotten recommendations from
either

1633
02:05:46,840 --> 02:05:55,520
our committees that
we call upon or um

1634
02:05:52,800 --> 02:06:00,480
you know a study has been done that we
need to make

1635
02:05:56,719 --> 02:06:06,079
well-planned informed decisions
and

1636
02:06:03,440 --> 02:06:09,360
mr reagan and mr
talked about the parameters

1637
02:06:11,920 --> 02:06:18,239
mr speller's discussion i would have to
agree with

1638
02:06:16,400 --> 02:06:21,119
the comments that this is a much bigger
problem than just

1639
02:06:19,840 --> 02:06:26,159
how many efforts
so that this this does make sense to

1640
02:06:24,159 --> 02:06:31,040
have a moratorium
to get something

1641
02:06:28,719 --> 02:06:31,040
also

1642
02:06:43,119 --> 02:06:48,000
the lowly san marcos county is going to
convince

1643
02:06:46,560 --> 02:06:51,840
senator schumer
to uh owning up whatever it is that we

1644
02:06:50,639 --> 02:06:57,599
would need
obviously he was here in the past

1645
02:06:55,119 --> 02:07:03,280
made some kind of assurances that
things are going to happen and

1646
02:07:00,400 --> 02:07:07,760
nothing has happened i think if we start
out

1647
02:07:04,480 --> 02:07:12,560
with the small group this board
and move it out

1648
02:07:09,599 --> 02:07:18,800
so that we have a much larger
group of people in st lawrence county uh

1649
02:07:15,840 --> 02:07:24,960
with expertise without expertise
with a will to do something that we

1650
02:07:21,599 --> 02:07:29,360
convince our local representatives
let's you went along the eec to the

1651
02:07:27,360 --> 02:07:33,679
federal government let's see let's see
what we can do with that

1652
02:07:30,800 --> 02:07:37,840
we can't do it by ourselves
mr ford said

1653
02:07:35,040 --> 02:07:41,639
well i'm just googling no foil success
stories in our zones

1654
02:07:49,520 --> 02:07:52,520
um

1655
02:07:58,719 --> 02:08:06,079
100 000 grant from the state department
of environmental conservation

1656
02:08:02,880 --> 02:08:11,040
along with 30 000 from the town of
the town contributed to the problem as

1657
02:08:08,639 --> 02:08:15,280
well as 70 000 from the pound
so it's a collaboration of all three and

1658
02:08:13,360 --> 02:08:20,960
that's where we have to go
to just throw 15 000 into a pot

1659
02:08:18,800 --> 02:08:25,599
it's not going anywhere i think we're
wasting it but if it's a collaboration

1660
02:08:24,159 --> 02:08:30,320
then i can see us
really kicking so

1661
02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:37,040
because there are successfully
not getting that him mr ray

1662
02:08:33,040 --> 02:08:42,719
thanks for pointing that out dave indeed
the biggest thing to keep in mind is

1663
02:08:40,239 --> 02:08:47,520
studies have been done
on the milfoil issue

1664
02:08:44,880 --> 02:08:53,440
on bodies of water throughout
new york

1665
02:08:48,840 --> 02:08:57,840
state and it's more of a matter of
compiling them

1666
02:08:55,119 --> 02:09:03,599
looking at the recommendations taking an
army corps of engineers study that

1667
02:09:00,960 --> 02:09:07,040
senator schumer
had done

1668
02:09:05,040 --> 02:09:11,520
and then taking
those recommendations you know the

1669
02:09:09,360 --> 02:09:16,719
missing piece was
senator schumer got money to do a study

1670
02:09:15,440 --> 02:09:24,000
and then
no one ever went back in and said okay

1671
02:09:20,800 --> 02:09:28,960
here's what the study recommends
could you give us the money to implement

1672
02:09:27,679 --> 02:09:32,560
the study
and that

1673
02:09:30,400 --> 02:09:37,840
you know he's the chairman of the senate
finance committee the if ever there was

1674
02:09:35,679 --> 02:09:44,079
anyone in a position
to uh make available

1675
02:09:40,480 --> 02:09:47,679
uh funds to implement a study that he
personally

1676
02:09:45,360 --> 02:09:52,239
had done
this would be it but i think we need a

1677
02:09:50,560 --> 02:09:54,000
bipartisan
uh

1678
02:09:53,040 --> 02:09:57,440
effort
to bring together

1679
02:09:55,920 --> 02:10:03,119
our communities
our scientific community

1680
02:09:59,679 --> 02:10:03,119
our political community

1681
02:10:03,280 --> 02:10:10,400
in order to
marshal

1682
02:10:07,119 --> 02:10:15,199
public opinion and
ask our federal representatives to

1683
02:10:13,360 --> 02:10:18,320
make this
give us the resources

1684
02:10:17,599 --> 02:10:24,960
to
help address this problem that's facing

1685
02:10:21,360 --> 02:10:31,199
so many of our bodies of water
mr character yes

1686
02:10:27,599 --> 02:10:35,440
could i please ask uh mr denisha
the co-chair since this was his idea and

1687
02:10:33,440 --> 02:10:39,440
i opened my big mouth and said something
about it but i want to give credit for

1688
02:10:37,840 --> 02:10:44,960
credit what would you like to what would
you like to ask i'd like to ask mr

1689
02:10:41,599 --> 02:10:49,040
vanesh if he would please be um the uh
co-sponsor of this resolution that i'm

1690
02:10:47,360 --> 02:10:53,960
offered
absolutely thank you okay

1691
02:11:06,639 --> 02:11:11,760
okay
so next up is our vacancy review

1692
02:11:09,520 --> 02:11:15,599
committee uh the annual vacancy if you
look

1693
02:11:13,360 --> 02:11:15,599
actually

1694
02:11:16,400 --> 02:11:18,800
to you

1695
02:11:19,199 --> 02:11:27,040
each year i'd like to provide you with a
status update of the reinstatement of

1696
02:11:24,719 --> 02:11:31,520
the vacancy review committee its value
to the process and then typically make a

1697
02:11:29,440 --> 02:11:36,320
couple of recommendations or affirm a
couple of actions the board has taken

1698
02:11:33,760 --> 02:11:41,040
that demonstrate why it's been helpful
but also what that has meant over the

1699
02:11:38,639 --> 02:11:45,840
years since 2015
it's changed in its purpose and and

1700
02:11:43,840 --> 02:11:50,000
you'll see that a little lower when we
talk about the best performance years so

1701
02:11:48,560 --> 02:11:54,079
i always include a little bit of history
for those you know tuning in or hearing

1702
02:11:51,679 --> 02:11:55,920
about the annual analysis for the first
time

1703
02:11:55,040 --> 02:11:59,040
and
long ago the vacancy review committee

1704
02:11:58,000 --> 02:12:04,239
was
in operation and then it went out of

1705
02:12:01,599 --> 02:12:09,679
kind of service uh by that process for
about four or five years so the board

1706
02:12:06,960 --> 02:12:13,119
coming in 2015 wanted to reinstitute the
committee

1707
02:12:10,880 --> 02:12:18,159
our recommendation was could we rotate
legislators through that giving everyone

1708
02:12:15,520 --> 02:12:22,239
an opportunity to have discussions with
departments directly about their needs

1709
02:12:20,480 --> 02:12:26,320
for staffing
that part has been tremendously

1710
02:12:24,000 --> 02:12:30,079
successful often hearing and learning a
lot more about department activities

1711
02:12:28,079 --> 02:12:34,560
than just about the position so it's
really lend itself lent itself to a

1712
02:12:32,480 --> 02:12:38,000
process where you also get a little bit
more information about the departments

1713
02:12:36,239 --> 02:12:42,079
that are included that month
so that generally talks at the top

1714
02:12:40,159 --> 02:12:46,400
resolutions it references that actions
the board has taken over the years to

1715
02:12:43,920 --> 02:12:51,360
affirm the essential hiring freeze to
provide for opportunities for modest

1716
02:12:49,199 --> 02:12:54,239
adjustments to the process but overall
keeping in place the vacancy review

1717
02:12:53,280 --> 02:12:59,360
committee
so also thinking about 2020 because

1718
02:12:56,800 --> 02:13:03,360
that's what this review is for
what was provided at that time was two

1719
02:13:01,280 --> 02:13:06,960
opportunities one was to create
temporary positions

1720
02:13:05,040 --> 02:13:11,520
in situations where either there weren't
enough staffing so we were at full staff

1721
02:13:09,520 --> 02:13:15,840
we needed more such as public health a
few other places

1722
02:13:13,040 --> 02:13:19,199
or we had some physicians that really
needed additional support in the

1723
02:13:17,520 --> 02:13:24,320
transition to either retirement
departure or during leaves so the board

1724
02:13:21,840 --> 02:13:29,440
was very generous not only in keeping
all staff in san lance county employed

1725
02:13:26,320 --> 02:13:33,840
during coping 19 response last year
but also provided for temporary

1726
02:13:31,679 --> 02:13:37,760
positions granted me the authority to
create them and fill in to meet

1727
02:13:35,920 --> 02:13:43,440
operational needs
i can give you the total on that at this

1728
02:13:40,079 --> 02:13:47,520
point has been 43 and i can also provide
you if you'd like with department by

1729
02:13:45,119 --> 02:13:52,079
department summary of those
after so the sunset on that was december

1730
02:13:49,920 --> 02:13:56,719
31st we had a conversation earlier in
the year about continuing that practice

1731
02:13:54,639 --> 02:14:01,599
because it was successful because those
needs had not subsided and because we

1732
02:13:59,679 --> 02:14:06,320
also are seeing uh
retirements of long tenured positions

1733
02:14:03,760 --> 02:14:09,599
that need to have someone in before they
leave and i think that was one of the

1734
02:14:08,000 --> 02:14:13,440
challenges in county government for many
years was the chair was cold before

1735
02:14:11,520 --> 02:14:18,079
someone came to sit in it and the
learning curve the onboarding all of

1736
02:14:15,440 --> 02:14:22,400
that is tremendously challenging when
the role that they are asked to take in

1737
02:14:19,840 --> 02:14:26,719
county government is substantial
so both of those have been tremendously

1738
02:14:24,480 --> 02:14:31,599
helpful in departments both having short
staff having staff out for a variety of

1739
02:14:28,800 --> 02:14:34,880
reasons one of which may be covered but
overall to be able to meet operational

1740
02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:40,400
needs
so that being said looking at your chart

1741
02:14:38,000 --> 02:14:45,360
we are one position different from last
year so we thought it was a food because

1742
02:14:42,719 --> 02:14:52,159
of focus there was not a lot of mobility
associated with physicians our prior

1743
02:14:48,000 --> 02:14:57,599
average is covered between 150 and 165.
last year they dropped 136 and this year

1744
02:14:54,800 --> 02:15:03,360
they're 135 so my hope is that we've
seen you know that difference in changes

1745
02:15:00,320 --> 02:15:09,199
of annual um adjustments to the
physicians so that was just under a 1

1746
02:15:06,239 --> 02:15:12,719
change over last year then you can also
see over the years uh they were there

1747
02:15:11,280 --> 02:15:17,199
have been the different levels of
positions to be built media phil the

1748
02:15:15,440 --> 02:15:23,199
board took a position a pretty firm
position years ago about a 60-day fill

1749
02:15:20,560 --> 02:15:26,880
and then it was increased to 90
and the departments have the opportunity

1750
02:15:25,040 --> 02:15:30,079
to come in and say while i recognize
that's the policy of the board i'm

1751
02:15:28,639 --> 02:15:34,320
asking for you to allow me to do it
immediately for these reasons and the

1752
02:15:31,920 --> 02:15:37,920
board can make a determination most of
the time agreeing with the department

1753
02:15:36,079 --> 02:15:42,239
but in some circumstances saying could
you wait 30 days could you wait 60 days

1754
02:15:40,239 --> 02:15:46,000
or they would be asking well enough
ahead that they could win 90 days so a

1755
02:15:44,320 --> 02:15:51,679
variety of those and they're captured
here by the percentage you can then see

1756
02:15:48,320 --> 02:15:57,360
the changeover percentage from last year
which in most situations is negligible

1757
02:15:55,040 --> 02:16:01,440
in the 90 days vacant and the denied we
did see an increase in the held

1758
02:15:58,960 --> 02:16:05,760
withdrawn with positions
if you recall there have been 17

1759
02:16:02,960 --> 02:16:11,360
positions added in social services and
another 15 were requested that i put on

1760
02:16:08,719 --> 02:16:14,960
hold to allow for the folks coming in to
be trained

1761
02:16:12,400 --> 02:16:19,119
so that really is most of the reason for
that held withdrawn category being a

1762
02:16:16,880 --> 02:16:24,320
little bit higher than you're used to
i also like to take all six years

1763
02:16:21,840 --> 02:16:28,239
provided together and give you a an idea
of the change over the average so i

1764
02:16:26,159 --> 02:16:35,040
reference that number of positions we've
dropped down to 151 from that

1765
02:16:31,520 --> 02:16:38,240
155 160 number that we've had been
um

1766
02:16:35,840 --> 02:16:41,679
how it is as that number diminishes
we're keeping people longer we're

1767
02:16:40,080 --> 02:16:47,120
keeping people either through the
organization but we're not seeing those

1768
02:16:44,319 --> 02:16:52,160
those departures so we didn't make any
great uh changes in our best performance

1769
02:16:49,359 --> 02:16:56,240
year last year we saw that performance
year improved in

1770
02:16:53,920 --> 02:17:00,639
the 90 days vacant category so let me
explain this a little bit as well so the

1771
02:16:58,479 --> 02:17:05,439
immediate field position of the board
early on was to delay those so a high

1772
02:17:03,040 --> 02:17:08,240
percentage in that would not be good so
we were looking for the lowest

1773
02:17:06,719 --> 02:17:11,840
percentage in that year you can see this
year it's 72

1774
02:17:10,080 --> 02:17:15,599
but also you can make an argument in
many departments if not all of them did

1775
02:17:14,080 --> 02:17:20,559
for why they needed those positions
built immediately but that number should

1776
02:17:18,080 --> 02:17:25,599
be low with the policy of the board so
the best year we have is 30 percent this

1777
02:17:22,800 --> 02:17:30,960
year you can see we've got 72.
30 days vacant and lifeline so as you

1778
02:17:27,840 --> 02:17:37,120
scroll down the 90 days vacant 90 days
vacant our best year was four percent

1779
02:17:33,679 --> 02:17:42,080
that 25 in that 60 day vacant range was
really the area where the board's policy

1780
02:17:39,359 --> 02:17:48,240
prescribed that that was the goal and so
the best year would have doing that was

1781
02:17:44,000 --> 02:17:52,719
in 2016 2017 so one year after the
committee was put back into place

1782
02:17:50,719 --> 02:17:57,280
so you can see the numbers there you can
see that average is coming down a little

1783
02:17:54,719 --> 02:18:01,760
bit i wanted to let you know we had 13
positions that were abolished

1784
02:17:59,760 --> 02:18:06,319
but we're filling positions our ratio
right now between positions created to

1785
02:18:04,160 --> 02:18:11,280
physicians abolished is about three to
four to one so for every position we

1786
02:18:09,200 --> 02:18:15,280
abolish we're creating between three and
four positions this year

1787
02:18:13,679 --> 02:18:19,519
that's remarkable and very different
from years past but i can also tell you

1788
02:18:17,679 --> 02:18:25,359
going into budget this year the 2021
budget had 809 positions and as of

1789
02:18:22,319 --> 02:18:29,519
august 18th we're at 840 positions so
that's going to also have an impact when

1790
02:18:27,280 --> 02:18:35,120
you see both projections for the 2021
budget and the 2022 budget in the next

1791
02:18:32,960 --> 02:18:39,200
month or so
that being said uh the next item that we

1792
02:18:37,679 --> 02:18:43,519
have been providing to you is the
vacancy savings you don't make an effort

1793
02:18:41,760 --> 02:18:49,280
because there are so many variables to
capture the fringe benefit savings the

1794
02:18:46,000 --> 02:18:54,080
salaries alone uh for 2020 to 2021 and
we're looking at 1.6 million in savings

1795
02:18:52,319 --> 02:18:58,639
now that's pretty close also to that
position number i gave you that's only

1796
02:18:55,679 --> 02:19:02,800
17 000 less the year prior it was
substantially different coming in

1797
02:19:03,439 --> 02:19:08,319
at 300
000.

1798
02:19:06,399 --> 02:19:13,920
so kind of a change kind of a different
approach than the year prior

1799
02:19:10,800 --> 02:19:18,399
so um rolling over to your second page
of this report two recommendations this

1800
02:19:16,160 --> 02:19:22,319
year very modest i did already speak to
one of them on the temporary physician

1801
02:19:20,000 --> 02:19:26,639
component i think it's been very a very
useful tool working with departments to

1802
02:19:24,559 --> 02:19:30,880
make sure the work gets done the public
is very uh

1803
02:19:29,040 --> 02:19:34,240
the public is very informative when we
aren't completing the work that they

1804
02:19:32,080 --> 02:19:38,080
expect of us and so this has been able
to bridge those gaps this has been able

1805
02:19:35,920 --> 02:19:40,960
to fill in those places where otherwise
we would have to tell folks they have to

1806
02:19:40,000 --> 02:19:44,160
win
because in many if not everything we do

1807
02:19:42,719 --> 02:19:49,200
there's a substantial training and
learning curve attached to it

1808
02:19:46,800 --> 02:19:53,040
so the second one uh was again that
transition to allow those overlaps and i

1809
02:19:51,600 --> 02:19:57,040
encourage you to continue to think about
that here departments out and to look

1810
02:19:55,280 --> 02:20:00,160
upon those favorably because they're
pretty careful when they choose to make

1811
02:19:58,640 --> 02:20:03,600
that request
what we've also tried to do just as

1812
02:20:02,479 --> 02:20:08,560
an aside when you look at those
percentages if a position is vacated and

1813
02:20:06,880 --> 02:20:12,800
it's not going to be until even the
resolution comes before the board if

1814
02:20:10,640 --> 02:20:15,840
that 30 days is going to be met we go
ahead and try to give them credit for

1815
02:20:14,000 --> 02:20:19,200
that because regardless that position
will be vacant for that period of time

1816
02:20:17,600 --> 02:20:23,200
and there should be a note attached to
that because that's also part of your

1817
02:20:20,960 --> 02:20:26,080
vacancy savings so you can start to see
where some of those impact our overall

1818
02:20:24,960 --> 02:20:30,720
totals
so then this year i decided to give you

1819
02:20:28,080 --> 02:20:33,359
some staffing summary statistics
you can see they're highlighted in bold

1820
02:20:32,640 --> 02:20:37,920
the
greatest or the highest reporting

1821
02:20:34,720 --> 02:20:44,319
category so st lawrence county is 59
female and 41 now

1822
02:20:41,040 --> 02:20:50,800
our age range goes from 20 and probably
a little bit younger to over 70. and our

1823
02:20:47,120 --> 02:20:56,640
largest group is in the 50 to 54 euro
range and 145 but you can see the

1824
02:20:53,920 --> 02:21:02,240
categories and also by which the
generation of folks in those categories

1825
02:20:58,880 --> 02:21:05,840
as well similarly if you drop down below
uh the retirement tiers we don't have

1826
02:21:04,000 --> 02:21:09,840
any tier ones anymore
so i thought they were still a couple

1827
02:21:07,200 --> 02:21:13,439
but we're at zero uh our bulk is tier
four if that's a lot of what

1828
02:21:11,200 --> 02:21:18,240
municipalities are seeing right now
at 397 for us but also coming up very

1829
02:21:16,319 --> 02:21:21,840
quickly is the tier vi
which doesn't have

1830
02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:24,560
the investing that we are used to in
tier up to tier four and a little in

1831
02:21:23,439 --> 02:21:29,200
tier five
also though remarkable in this report to

1832
02:21:26,800 --> 02:21:33,200
me and i'm certain for all of you is the
years of service so when you look at

1833
02:21:31,280 --> 02:21:38,240
48.2 percent
of our workforce is in their zero to

1834
02:21:35,600 --> 02:21:41,840
five years of service we have had i
think there was a phrase that that i

1835
02:21:40,080 --> 02:21:45,600
can't recall at the moment but a phrase
of talking about the retirement age of a

1836
02:21:43,920 --> 02:21:49,520
lot of our workforce and seeing a lot of
those folks retire and a lot of new

1837
02:21:47,600 --> 02:21:52,399
folks coming in at all levels of county
government so that was a pretty

1838
02:21:50,960 --> 02:21:56,960
remarkable in those other three
categories at six to ten years eleven

1839
02:21:54,399 --> 02:22:01,600
and fifteen and sixteen to twenty hovers
right above that ten percent mark

1840
02:22:00,000 --> 02:22:07,760
and i would be falling into that sixteen
to twenty year one 122 employees

1841
02:22:05,359 --> 02:22:12,240
so you can also see though those numbers
in the 31 plus category we used to be

1842
02:22:10,080 --> 02:22:16,479
quite heavy in that in that category and
now we sit at 23

1843
02:22:14,560 --> 02:22:20,240
which amounts to only two percent of our
workforce

1844
02:22:17,520 --> 02:22:24,479
so that whole societal change of how
long folks are staying in their jobs is

1845
02:22:22,399 --> 02:22:27,920
changing and this is a reflection in my
mind what that's starting to look like

1846
02:22:26,080 --> 02:22:32,240
here mr forrester
question

1847
02:22:29,680 --> 02:22:34,960
here board of tier 6
the retirement contribution to the

1848
02:22:33,920 --> 02:22:40,560
employer
is there less

1849
02:22:37,520 --> 02:22:44,600
and if johnny answered that question
i wouldn't get that for you um

1850
02:22:48,319 --> 02:22:56,080
i'm sorry so you want to know
the difference between tier 4 and tier 6

1851
02:22:53,200 --> 02:23:00,479
for employer employer contribution would
be a less less contribution or stay in

1852
02:22:58,479 --> 02:23:04,560
the same
um i think tier 4 right now is averaging

1853
02:23:03,120 --> 02:23:10,160
around nine percent
and tier six

1854
02:23:06,720 --> 02:23:13,439
is averaging well tier six
depends on

1855
02:23:12,640 --> 02:23:20,080
um
no it tier six is eight percent

1856
02:23:16,880 --> 02:23:20,080
so for the employer

1857
02:23:21,920 --> 02:23:26,720
as well
okay

1858
02:23:24,560 --> 02:23:30,720
and then just so that you understand um
certainly we have over the last year and

1859
02:23:28,720 --> 02:23:34,960
over this year uh all seven of our
reunions have and will come up for

1860
02:23:33,600 --> 02:23:38,319
negotiation just trying to give you a
little bit of a little bit better

1861
02:23:36,319 --> 02:23:42,319
picture of how many employees are
represented by each of our units so i'd

1862
02:23:40,880 --> 02:23:45,840
like to always take the opportunity when
i can to improve your work knowledge of

1863
02:23:43,840 --> 02:23:49,120
what the landscape looks like here and i
thought the annual vacancy review

1864
02:23:47,280 --> 02:23:52,960
analysis was a good opportunity to do
that

1865
02:23:49,840 --> 02:23:55,439
are there any questions concerns
excellent

1866
02:23:56,080 --> 02:24:02,240
okay thank you and i have the vacancy
tonight as well

1867
02:24:02,880 --> 02:24:09,840
go ahead
yes so um i took an extra step in this

1868
02:24:07,520 --> 02:24:12,560
process for this vacancy and chair
denisha of the buildings and grounds

1869
02:24:11,359 --> 02:24:17,040
committee and
legislators aqua legislators

1870
02:24:14,399 --> 02:24:21,439
got to hear this twice so we took the
opportunity to have in our discussions

1871
02:24:18,960 --> 02:24:27,280
about upcoming projects and the dialogue
necessary to move things forward

1872
02:24:24,800 --> 02:24:30,720
in terms of the projects so one of the
things that came up in that discussion

1873
02:24:28,960 --> 02:24:34,560
and then proceeded to vacancy review
committee was the opportunity to request

1874
02:24:33,200 --> 02:24:38,399
the board consider
bringing in a buildings and ground

1875
02:24:35,920 --> 02:24:40,800
supervisor which most closely reflects
the work we're looking for this person

1876
02:24:39,920 --> 02:24:44,800
to do
probably to most folks this would fit

1877
02:24:42,399 --> 02:24:49,359
the clerk of the works designation uh
someone who can move our projects along

1878
02:24:47,439 --> 02:24:52,399
what we've done and i think it was out
of the

1879
02:24:50,560 --> 02:24:56,720
times that we were living in
over the last five years our projects by

1880
02:24:55,040 --> 02:25:01,200
by and large have been handled by the
departments where they occur

1881
02:24:58,880 --> 02:25:04,960
so as an example the interoperability
radio project we did not bring on

1882
02:25:03,280 --> 02:25:08,160
someone to
assist with the installation of i

1883
02:25:06,399 --> 02:25:11,920
believe over seven towers over a three
year period that we still are plugging

1884
02:25:10,240 --> 02:25:16,880
along trying to get the resources
together and that was a complex project

1885
02:25:14,160 --> 02:25:21,840
because not only were we trying to avoid
county government having to have input

1886
02:25:18,880 --> 02:25:27,280
so we were quilting this um this barrage
of funding on our resources from aid

1887
02:25:24,720 --> 02:25:32,960
sources from a whole host of different
funding opportunities to pay for it and

1888
02:25:29,920 --> 02:25:37,520
then also trying to get work done so
fortunately we're not in a bad spot but

1889
02:25:35,200 --> 02:25:43,040
that had i the knowledge i have now i
would have asked you in 2016 to provide

1890
02:25:40,399 --> 02:25:46,560
an assistant or an opportunity like this
for our department head

1891
02:25:44,720 --> 02:25:51,680
as you know all of our department has
carry very busy schedules and have a lot

1892
02:25:49,280 --> 02:25:56,640
of work to accomplish
asking them also to manage a capital

1893
02:25:53,520 --> 02:26:00,560
project is more than i think is wise on
our behalf so in looking at the project

1894
02:25:59,120 --> 02:26:05,120
you looked at last month at the public
safety center with about three projects

1895
02:26:02,880 --> 02:26:09,520
coming forward which that will include
if the board is uh looking upon it

1896
02:26:07,280 --> 02:26:12,479
favorably the jail principally the
sheriff's or the matron's house there i

1897
02:26:11,439 --> 02:26:16,000
believe it's properly called the
sheriff's house the warehouse

1898
02:26:14,319 --> 02:26:19,600
potentially addressing the family court
space

1899
02:26:17,359 --> 02:26:24,479
all of those will be ongoing projects
that need oversight so this position i

1900
02:26:22,000 --> 02:26:28,560
would envision taking first on the
public safety complex that's our most

1901
02:26:26,640 --> 02:26:33,280
aggressive timeline in terms of trying
to move forward with an internal project

1902
02:26:31,280 --> 02:26:37,520
and all of these will be i would also
give you the example of the jail project

1903
02:26:35,359 --> 02:26:41,439
we took staff completely out of their
roles in county government and put them

1904
02:26:39,600 --> 02:26:45,200
in the jail project
while i recognize that it's a

1905
02:26:42,800 --> 02:26:48,640
large-scale project of 30 million
dollars at the ceiling

1906
02:26:46,800 --> 02:26:52,479
we reassigned our staff completely to
that and backfilled their goals they

1907
02:26:50,399 --> 02:26:56,319
were focused and they delivered on time
under budget project that will have

1908
02:26:54,640 --> 02:26:59,840
benefits for this county for years to
come so in this in this situation what

1909
02:26:58,800 --> 02:27:03,680
i'd really like to do is be able to
bring someone in part

1910
02:27:01,520 --> 02:27:07,120
and should that be a concern in terms of
will their uh will they have more work

1911
02:27:05,600 --> 02:27:10,720
to do than they have time i would give
you updates uh periodically about how

1912
02:27:09,200 --> 02:27:14,880
they're doing and how well that's
serving the purpose what i'd like you to

1913
02:27:12,800 --> 02:27:17,520
consider the opportunity for us to do is
to bring in someone with that being

1914
02:27:16,160 --> 02:27:21,680
their sole focus they are the point of
contact they watch the budget they see

1915
02:27:19,600 --> 02:27:26,399
the change orders they do the punch list
and they have the conversation with all

1916
02:27:23,200 --> 02:27:30,720
the contractors our liaison
we also have three outposts going on

1917
02:27:28,479 --> 02:27:30,720
yeah

1918
02:27:52,800 --> 02:27:56,120
any other questions

1919
02:27:58,960 --> 02:28:05,840
okay so moving on now to the kevin
administrative report if that's okay

1920
02:28:03,200 --> 02:28:09,359
uh just to give you a
bit of a picture like i'd like to on the

1921
02:28:07,680 --> 02:28:13,680
weeks that we don't have a focus 19
update from

1922
02:28:10,840 --> 02:28:18,640
um orr from dr williams um our new total
today is 8160.

1923
02:28:16,560 --> 02:28:24,000
we've gone from the middle of july
averaging two per day to now six per day

1924
02:28:22,240 --> 02:28:27,280
over the weekend we saw a slight
reduction to

1925
02:28:25,359 --> 02:28:31,760
case totals in the 20s instead of in the
30s uh what that means yet it's hard to

1926
02:28:29,760 --> 02:28:35,760
hard to know but always positive to see
those drop a bit

1927
02:28:33,280 --> 02:28:40,800
we saw i believe over 100 cases since
friday we will now proceed with daily

1928
02:28:38,720 --> 02:28:44,319
reporting on the weekdays
so we also are looking to improve our

1929
02:28:42,800 --> 02:28:47,840
graphics for the information we're
putting out to the public

1930
02:28:45,920 --> 02:28:51,520
so if you have any suggestions or you
have any concerns in looking at this for

1931
02:28:49,280 --> 02:28:54,960
once at a time now let us know and we'll
try and address those and get some some

1932
02:28:53,439 --> 02:29:00,160
cleaner it is going to still have the
same information and if not better

1933
02:28:56,640 --> 02:29:05,600
information for the public um
good a little bit more specific on the

1934
02:29:03,520 --> 02:29:08,920
vaccinated people
getting it

1935
02:29:19,040 --> 02:29:22,040
is

1936
02:29:22,960 --> 02:29:25,990
[Music]

1937
02:29:28,479 --> 02:29:34,080
is
effective like 91

1938
02:29:32,560 --> 02:29:37,520
now now
and

1939
02:29:35,439 --> 02:29:41,439
okay because the last time i asked it it
was like two or three so dr william said

1940
02:29:39,439 --> 02:29:45,840
two and a half percent last time in our
public health community from information

1941
02:29:43,520 --> 02:29:50,720
he had seen from israel
that was more like nine to ten percent

1942
02:29:48,479 --> 02:29:50,720
okay

1943
02:29:53,760 --> 02:29:56,879
[Applause]

1944
02:30:02,880 --> 02:30:06,720
yeah we can get some more specific and
keep it correct

1945
02:30:06,960 --> 02:30:15,439
no i wanted to answer oh okay
about this reporting did that require

1946
02:30:13,120 --> 02:30:19,680
some sort of special software or
anything to go back

1947
02:30:17,760 --> 02:30:23,359
this is reporting from public health
that you're asking it's a combination

1948
02:30:21,359 --> 02:30:27,439
yes of reporting from public health and
the planning office doing the math is

1949
02:30:24,880 --> 02:30:32,800
that what you mean yes okay okay so
they're going back to a daily yes

1950
02:30:29,520 --> 02:30:32,800
wonderful days

1951
02:30:34,800 --> 02:30:40,319
so this is mimicking what happened in
the uk with the delta

1952
02:30:38,960 --> 02:30:43,680
big surge
and then two weeks to drop off

1953
02:30:42,479 --> 02:30:47,040
we're going
hopefully 31 down

1954
02:30:50,640 --> 02:30:57,120
any other questions right now
so the pfizer vaccine received fda

1955
02:30:55,200 --> 02:31:00,319
approval regular approval which i think
in some of the

1956
02:30:58,479 --> 02:31:04,399
vaccine hesitants has been stated as one
of the reasons why folks were concerned

1957
02:31:02,880 --> 02:31:08,479
so hopefully that will see another
percent of two or five of folks in the

1958
02:31:06,640 --> 02:31:12,800
county getting vaccinated
our report today indicated at full

1959
02:31:10,640 --> 02:31:18,720
vaccination status san luis county has
fifty

1960
02:31:14,960 --> 02:31:22,080
uh those are the first dose is 53.7
and our positivity rate because that

1961
02:31:20,560 --> 02:31:27,040
also being pointed out in our graphics
now is 5.61

1962
02:31:25,200 --> 02:31:30,880
so certainly a change from a few weeks
ago

1963
02:31:29,280 --> 02:31:35,840
i will tell you even within county
government last week starting thursday

1964
02:31:33,359 --> 02:31:38,000
we haven't seen cases on staff in almost
a time where you notice and start to

1965
02:31:37,120 --> 02:31:42,479
worry
well that has been remedied because as

1966
02:31:39,920 --> 02:31:48,640
of thursday we had our first positive
case and now i have six departments one

1967
02:31:45,280 --> 02:31:55,200
with two units who have cases on staff
one of which is our dmv and so there is

1968
02:31:52,319 --> 02:31:59,600
10 posts quarantined so that was going
to impact the closure of one of our

1969
02:31:57,439 --> 02:32:03,760
satellite offices our county code is
working right now to try and keep those

1970
02:32:01,520 --> 02:32:07,359
open um but also that maybe like phone
calls that may delay responses things of

1971
02:32:05,520 --> 02:32:11,040
that nature but working very hard right
now to try and keep all those offices

1972
02:32:08,880 --> 02:32:15,680
running a lot of folks work through
their quarantine so we also are seeing a

1973
02:32:13,520 --> 02:32:19,920
challenge with the removal of the
essential worker status so that is a

1974
02:32:18,319 --> 02:32:24,560
challenge for us i've talked with jolene
about that received several questions

1975
02:32:21,439 --> 02:32:28,160
about it she has uh indicated that the
department of health is looking at what

1976
02:32:26,720 --> 02:32:32,640
their essential work requirements might
look like not anything they really will

1977
02:32:30,160 --> 02:32:36,800
not that could become a challenge for us
it's the jail with the number of

1978
02:32:34,080 --> 02:32:42,080
operations we have 24 7 we really need
to be able to have folks able to work

1979
02:32:39,920 --> 02:32:45,520
so i'll keep you posted i'll get back up
to where i used to report to you on how

1980
02:32:43,840 --> 02:32:48,560
many total on staff
we have acquired our own cleaning

1981
02:32:47,120 --> 02:32:52,560
equipment so i don't think that will
require us to bring in outside folks to

1982
02:32:50,560 --> 02:32:56,240
do that type of fogging and cleaning we
haven't seen the same stress placed on

1983
02:32:54,160 --> 02:32:59,760
that that we did early on with the
surface cleaning and the plexiglas we're

1984
02:32:58,240 --> 02:33:02,560
not seeing that saying it's more about
mask wearing

1985
02:33:01,120 --> 02:33:07,040
and distancing
so certainly things to be aware of i did

1986
02:33:05,200 --> 02:33:11,040
make the request of the group
to reconsider returning to mass as

1987
02:33:09,359 --> 02:33:16,720
public health is now
recommending that indoor facilities that

1988
02:33:13,600 --> 02:33:19,280
occur and with this change in our status
and our staff

1989
02:33:18,080 --> 02:33:25,040
i just wanted to call that to your
attention uh once again to identify the

1990
02:33:21,840 --> 02:33:29,680
interest for the board's election to
return to masking indoor facilities or

1991
02:33:27,520 --> 02:33:32,479
to remain where we are which currently
is

1992
02:33:30,479 --> 02:33:36,720
if you are unvaccinated you need to mask
or if you're visiting the courts in this

1993
02:33:34,960 --> 02:33:42,120
building if you are un if you are
vaccinated you are not required to mask

1994
02:33:39,120 --> 02:33:42,120
um

1995
02:34:00,960 --> 02:34:08,000
yes and uh what
you know what uh what percentage of a

1996
02:34:06,000 --> 02:34:10,240
number of
those

1997
02:34:10,560 --> 02:34:12,880
numbers

1998
02:34:14,840 --> 02:34:22,160
classrooms by the number of number of
folks that have been that have been

1999
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a number of positive cases you positive

2000
02:34:24,880 --> 02:34:29,680
cases
that were currently close to their

2001
02:34:27,280 --> 02:34:29,680
vaccine

2002
02:34:42,800 --> 02:34:48,080
to put that number out with your report

2003
02:34:49,120 --> 02:34:54,560
it was remarkably higher than you
thought wasn't it it was

2004
02:34:52,319 --> 02:34:58,920
much so
i guess i would just like to throw that

2005
02:34:55,920 --> 02:34:58,920
out

2006
02:34:59,280 --> 02:35:05,120
i think
this is

2007
02:35:02,960 --> 02:35:10,160
anecdotal of course
but um we have

2008
02:35:07,040 --> 02:35:15,120
a lot of people with health conditions
in saint louis county and we have an

2009
02:35:12,479 --> 02:35:20,240
aging population
some people are older than others okay

2010
02:35:18,000 --> 02:35:24,479
so i think those two things may be
factors in um

2011
02:35:22,960 --> 02:35:31,359
this because
my understanding is that vaccinated

2012
02:35:27,280 --> 02:35:31,359
people who are testing positive

2013
02:35:31,680 --> 02:35:37,840
are
immunocompromised in some way

2014
02:35:35,680 --> 02:35:43,120
or um
have

2015
02:35:39,120 --> 02:35:47,680
age related issues of some sort
it would have to include

2016
02:35:45,040 --> 02:35:51,120
i mean you can't look at one portion of
it they're vaccinated it would have to

2017
02:35:49,920 --> 02:35:55,280
include
you know their age range and i think

2018
02:35:53,120 --> 02:35:59,600
part of it is because we have a lot of
people with diabetes and saint lawrence

2019
02:35:57,280 --> 02:36:04,080
county a lot of people
um

2020
02:36:01,280 --> 02:36:04,080
who are older

2021
02:36:04,399 --> 02:36:09,439
that might have more factors added into
that

2022
02:36:08,479 --> 02:36:14,720
so
dr williams released a statement

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02:36:12,000 --> 02:36:18,800
wednesday after our meeting
and it was if you're up on the situation

2024
02:36:17,120 --> 02:36:23,680
it was very in-depth
detailed

2025
02:36:20,720 --> 02:36:27,840
but really what he didn't emphasize
what i suggested was

2026
02:36:26,240 --> 02:36:32,319
virtually everybody that's ended up in
the emergency room is on backstage

2027
02:36:30,720 --> 02:36:38,080
and that that's the message that has to
be is to be set for adults correct they

2028
02:36:36,000 --> 02:36:43,040
won't speak about children
but certainly for adults

2029
02:36:40,479 --> 02:36:46,479
that's what they're finding in the ei
and

2030
02:36:43,920 --> 02:36:48,840
and also in hospitalizations and the
dead people

2031
02:36:48,000 --> 02:36:54,160
no one
is we're still at 97 deaths or 99

2032
02:36:51,840 --> 02:37:02,560
whatever it is right there's no dying
elsewhere and primarily

2033
02:36:57,680 --> 02:37:07,280
99 of those people are unconstitutional
i don't know okay so that's what i

2034
02:37:05,120 --> 02:37:10,960
thought that because it was
i understood it because

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02:37:09,120 --> 02:37:14,640
we all would because this is what we're
hearing every monday

2036
02:37:12,560 --> 02:37:19,200
and following it and maybe much of the
population but the point we emphasized

2037
02:37:17,359 --> 02:37:23,040
was everybody that's showing up at st
mart's health systems attended the

2038
02:37:21,120 --> 02:37:26,640
emergency room or in their hospital bed
is on next day

2039
02:37:24,560 --> 02:37:31,120
it's not a hundred percent
but it's like 99.

2040
02:37:29,040 --> 02:37:36,800
so do it
i i think that's an excellent point uh

2041
02:37:34,880 --> 02:37:42,880
thank you for bringing it up
and i would urge ruth and our public

2042
02:37:40,640 --> 02:37:46,800
health uh director
to

2043
02:37:44,479 --> 02:37:50,960
bring that to the media
so that they can bring that to the punk

2044
02:37:49,920 --> 02:37:55,840
because
i think

2045
02:37:52,960 --> 02:37:59,280
we need to get across
the people that

2046
02:37:58,000 --> 02:38:04,720
you know
if you are unvaccinated

2047
02:38:02,640 --> 02:38:07,760
you've been playing the odds
uh

2048
02:38:05,600 --> 02:38:07,760
and

2049
02:38:08,080 --> 02:38:15,120
with this new delta variant that's more
contagious

2050
02:38:13,040 --> 02:38:18,080
it's becoming riskier
and

2051
02:38:15,920 --> 02:38:22,960
uh you know
people need to

2052
02:38:20,319 --> 02:38:28,160
think about you know
what their choices are going to be

2053
02:38:26,240 --> 02:38:34,640
and since you know we're seeing an
increase in the number of people going

2054
02:38:31,520 --> 02:38:36,880
to the emergency room
and

2055
02:38:37,439 --> 02:38:45,840
the both of those people are vaccinated
that point needs to get across to

2056
02:38:44,319 --> 02:38:48,479
that
50

2057
02:38:46,800 --> 02:38:51,520
of the public
uh that

2058
02:38:51,920 --> 02:39:00,319
has chosen not to get vaccinated and
i just think that that's

2059
02:38:58,800 --> 02:39:04,960
something that
needs to be stressed and understood so

2060
02:39:03,520 --> 02:39:08,880
that
people can make an informed choice

2061
02:39:09,439 --> 02:39:17,120
so i'll just reiterate the vulnerable
population is age 65 and up

2062
02:39:14,640 --> 02:39:20,720
in san bernardino county over 82 percent
have chosen to get vaccinated

2063
02:39:19,840 --> 02:39:23,520
so
um

2064
02:39:22,240 --> 02:39:27,760
and of course if you're looking at the
county where only fifty percent

2065
02:39:25,520 --> 02:39:30,479
is vaccinated you have to
encompass those that are under the age

2066
02:39:29,600 --> 02:39:35,840
of 12
which the vaccine's not approved though

2067
02:39:34,080 --> 02:39:40,720
and then the limited number of
individuals from 12 to 19.

2068
02:39:38,640 --> 02:39:46,080
so the goals that are vulnerable
65 and up

2069
02:39:42,880 --> 02:39:50,240
in this county 82 percent of backstage
so when ruth

2070
02:39:48,240 --> 02:39:52,560
you know told all of us about whether or
not

2071
02:40:02,399 --> 02:40:07,520
my argument would it would be
detrimental to people who are

2072
02:40:05,760 --> 02:40:10,399
unvaccinated
because they would say

2073
02:40:10,479 --> 02:40:15,920
i'm not vaccinated even those that are
vaccinated now they're gonna wear the

2074
02:40:13,600 --> 02:40:19,439
mask the heck i'm not doing it
one of the things i read that's the

2075
02:40:17,279 --> 02:40:24,399
highest percentage of people that are
enough to actually are actually phd's

2076
02:40:22,640 --> 02:40:27,760
so take that
whatever salt that is

2077
02:40:26,240 --> 02:40:32,399
so um
i think it would be

2078
02:40:30,479 --> 02:40:36,479
you know people are well aware that the
vaccination has been available is

2079
02:40:34,080 --> 02:40:40,080
available in every
pharmacy

2080
02:40:37,680 --> 02:40:44,399
uh the state side was an overwhelming
success

2081
02:40:41,200 --> 02:40:46,960
and easy to get to uh quick and very
efficient

2082
02:40:45,520 --> 02:40:51,520
so people have made the decisions
whether or not the vaccination rates are

2083
02:40:49,600 --> 02:40:56,240
actually up in the county
i think they've almost doubled

2084
02:40:53,520 --> 02:40:59,120
so i know if joel is on that she could
get on a daily basis

2085
02:40:58,399 --> 02:41:03,840
so
obviously people get scared and those

2086
02:41:00,720 --> 02:41:07,120
that uh you know people that got sick or
whatever

2087
02:41:05,120 --> 02:41:10,479
made the decision so you've gotten more
but you've got

2088
02:41:08,160 --> 02:41:13,279
you've got a group that made your own
medical decisions

2089
02:41:14,080 --> 02:41:19,439
so i think that those that have been
vaccinated

2090
02:41:18,000 --> 02:41:23,439
should not have to be punished to wear a
mask

2091
02:41:21,760 --> 02:41:25,680
we may be told that the mass prevents
that

2092
02:41:28,240 --> 02:41:31,240
mr

2093
02:41:42,880 --> 02:41:51,520
last week uh 120 were fully backstained
that was positive

2094
02:41:49,359 --> 02:41:54,479
and say it was counting
so that would have to represent 10

2095
02:41:53,200 --> 02:41:58,399
percent
178

2096
02:41:56,240 --> 02:42:05,120
there were comebacks
okay so of the 102 were they ill 120 of

2097
02:42:02,720 --> 02:42:09,439
the 120 really ill i did not know did
they end up in the hospital this is what

2098
02:42:07,120 --> 02:42:15,680
they're finding is that those are that
are fully vaccinated or testing as much

2099
02:42:12,160 --> 02:42:18,880
with covet as actually unvaccinated
so the vaccine is preventing people from

2100
02:42:17,520 --> 02:42:23,520
getting sick
it's not preventing them from actually

2101
02:42:20,399 --> 02:42:23,520
experiencing coca

2102
02:42:24,479 --> 02:42:27,040
couple more

2103
02:42:37,520 --> 02:42:44,640
who had been mobilized to provide
the

2104
02:42:42,160 --> 02:42:47,279
larger clinics in august
they're going to be pulling together to

2105
02:42:46,000 --> 02:42:50,560
do the back to school events that you're
seeing we'll make sure to push those

2106
02:42:48,640 --> 02:42:53,040
schedules out to you if you wanted to
either stop out and see our public

2107
02:42:51,840 --> 02:42:56,399
health staff when they're at those back
to school nights or

2108
02:42:54,399 --> 02:42:58,960
um just send them a note you know i
think encouraging the fact that they're

2109
02:42:57,760 --> 02:43:03,120
putting in the time and they're getting
back out there through those

2110
02:42:59,920 --> 02:43:06,399
vaccinations always appreciated um we
understood today and certainly you've

2111
02:43:04,800 --> 02:43:10,880
probably heard travel restrictions with
canada will continue until at least

2112
02:43:08,560 --> 02:43:13,920
september 22nd
and this week we're going to meet with

2113
02:43:12,479 --> 02:43:17,920
the school districts again in public
health so i think that as we get closer

2114
02:43:16,000 --> 02:43:21,439
to the school year beginning it's a very
wide open communication line with the

2115
02:43:19,520 --> 02:43:25,040
school districts and public health uh we
don't have the

2116
02:43:22,800 --> 02:43:28,960
i guess a blessing or curse depending on
how you look at it of the executive

2117
02:43:26,800 --> 02:43:33,120
orders in place uh identifying how we
can and cannot behave so i think it's

2118
02:43:31,359 --> 02:43:36,960
helpful for more communication with the
schools so that we all know where

2119
02:43:34,960 --> 02:43:40,319
everyone is and what the facts of the
information are

2120
02:43:38,640 --> 02:43:44,560
so that's my covet update i want to let
you know that negotiations with the

2121
02:43:42,080 --> 02:43:48,720
supervisors of council lady 2 began last
week and as a reminder there are three

2122
02:43:46,800 --> 02:43:53,840
contracts that one included but also the
deputies and the deputy supervisors that

2123
02:43:51,120 --> 02:43:57,760
will expire at the end of 2021
um schedule just an update on that on

2124
02:43:55,920 --> 02:44:01,279
wednesday at two buildings and grounds
committee will need to

2125
02:43:59,920 --> 02:44:05,760
have that discussion on the sheriff's
house but also a request has come

2126
02:44:03,760 --> 02:44:10,479
forward about the historical designation
you often see those signs designating

2127
02:44:07,840 --> 02:44:14,319
either locations or districts um there's
always kind of been a stigma that this

2128
02:44:12,160 --> 02:44:18,399
board or others before you have taken
about the impediments that might cause

2129
02:44:16,399 --> 02:44:21,840
to what needs to occur at that location
so i want to have that dialogue and

2130
02:44:20,240 --> 02:44:26,000
hopefully bring that to you in the
future to have a conversation about

2131
02:44:23,840 --> 02:44:29,200
whether or not designating this campus
here on portland johnson street would

2132
02:44:27,439 --> 02:44:33,439
make sense for the county i think
there's some great benefits but also

2133
02:44:30,880 --> 02:44:37,520
understand the truth about what we can
do to build exactly those designations

2134
02:44:35,600 --> 02:44:41,920
um so we'll have that discussion i also
want to let you know on thursday

2135
02:44:39,760 --> 02:44:45,439
as a part of our budget discussions um
the staff of rural property and i will

2136
02:44:43,520 --> 02:44:50,240
meet with the city of ogdensburg to talk
about the chargeback so about a year ago

2137
02:44:47,760 --> 02:44:55,120
you may recall we had the discussion uh
the city was in a challenging time with

2138
02:44:52,640 --> 02:45:00,800
staffing in their office to
deal with their real property charges so

2139
02:44:57,840 --> 02:45:04,800
our staff stepped in and has been
billing them rather than the charge

2140
02:45:02,399 --> 02:45:04,800
vectors

2141
02:45:05,520 --> 02:45:12,080
provide the funding for that to the real
property office on a two-year on an

2142
02:45:10,240 --> 02:45:16,479
annual lag we're going to meet with them
to determine this year we've kept it the

2143
02:45:14,000 --> 02:45:21,279
same because the budget was already done
but for 2022 if the service is still

2144
02:45:19,279 --> 02:45:24,800
preferred by the city like it's provided
to the others how we might manage that

2145
02:45:23,359 --> 02:45:28,800
whether it stays a bill or goes to a
charge so i'll give you an update after

2146
02:45:27,120 --> 02:45:33,439
that as well
a follow-up on the request at the last

2147
02:45:31,120 --> 02:45:36,640
meeting for a meeting with the on the
opioid treatment program um i'll be

2148
02:45:35,439 --> 02:45:39,920
meeting and certainly extend the
invitation to

2149
02:45:38,080 --> 02:45:43,520
anyone interested in sitting in
with the president david acker on

2150
02:45:42,000 --> 02:45:48,720
september 3rd
around noon i believe to have a dialogue

2151
02:45:46,240 --> 02:45:52,160
about their next steps because we will
uh in october

2152
02:45:50,240 --> 02:45:55,840
into this process so anyone who's
interested we'll make sure you have

2153
02:45:53,120 --> 02:45:55,840
those details

2154
02:46:02,720 --> 02:46:06,319
from the board of health

2155
02:46:06,560 --> 02:46:09,560
meetings

2156
02:46:11,520 --> 02:46:16,560
yeah well you're asking will j eldridge
be there how are you

2157
02:46:17,600 --> 02:46:24,479
okay thank you
um just an update i'm coordinating i've

2158
02:46:22,319 --> 02:46:27,760
been brought to your attention that nice
act takes place on the same day as

2159
02:46:26,399 --> 02:46:31,680
september board meeting because of the
holiday i've coordinated with nice hack

2160
02:46:29,840 --> 02:46:36,399
to have a room set up so that all the
folks there myself included can attend

2161
02:46:34,080 --> 02:46:40,000
um the meaning virtually
from that location and i will be

2162
02:46:38,240 --> 02:46:43,680
graduating from their government
institute or venezuela institute at that

2163
02:46:42,240 --> 02:46:49,439
meeting as well that was supposed to
happen in january

2164
02:46:46,000 --> 02:46:52,960
um so operations and services uh we have
uh we've been taking a look at getting

2165
02:46:51,120 --> 02:46:58,640
you an informational
update on redistricting prior to all the

2166
02:46:56,080 --> 02:47:02,560
census blocks being finalized all that
information just getting a status to you

2167
02:47:00,880 --> 02:47:06,240
on where we are today
to be provided to you in september and

2168
02:47:04,800 --> 02:47:09,920
then finance we'll finally have a
broadband survey

2169
02:47:07,840 --> 02:47:13,200
from combination of bank and ecc
technologies to let you know the results

2170
02:47:11,920 --> 02:47:17,200
of those that go through what those
month mean and the opportunities that

2171
02:47:15,040 --> 02:47:22,479
become as a result of that
any question on those

2172
02:47:20,479 --> 02:47:26,000
and then lastly i just wanted to give
you an update

2173
02:47:23,920 --> 02:47:29,920
i want to provide you
with a recommendation tonight since the

2174
02:47:28,160 --> 02:47:33,920
june board meeting you all know that
we've been receiving complaints with

2175
02:47:31,520 --> 02:47:39,520
regard to our social services specific
to children's services uh we have

2176
02:47:36,000 --> 02:47:43,040
included ocfs in that discussion um and
they've taken a look at both the

2177
02:47:41,680 --> 02:47:48,479
original complaints which were coming in
about employees acting as foster parents

2178
02:47:45,200 --> 02:47:51,600
as well as a secondary about
complaints associated with the

2179
02:47:49,840 --> 02:47:53,600
department so they've been helpful
they've given us a little bit of

2180
02:47:52,640 --> 02:47:57,040
feedback
both from the case review done by the

2181
02:47:55,439 --> 02:48:01,279
commissioner by the county attorney's
office and the fact gathering we've done

2182
02:47:59,600 --> 02:48:04,640
since those have come in i will be
recommending to you that a third-party

2183
02:48:03,200 --> 02:48:08,399
review occur
and i just want tonight to get with any

2184
02:48:06,720 --> 02:48:12,000
objections to that
but if not i'd like to proceed with that

2185
02:48:10,240 --> 02:48:16,000
and bring you actions necessary by
resolution to the board

2186
02:48:13,680 --> 02:48:20,800
i also sat down last thursday and again
today with caseworkers to let them know

2187
02:48:18,800 --> 02:48:24,560
that first but also to be able to give
them an opportunity to express their

2188
02:48:22,319 --> 02:48:28,840
frustrations and concerns so that they
have a voice to be heard in this process

2189
02:48:26,720 --> 02:48:34,160
i think part of the challenge that they
expressed is they have to sit in silence

2190
02:48:31,760 --> 02:48:39,600
while stories are shared concerns are
raised allegations are made about them

2191
02:48:37,439 --> 02:48:43,120
in general and them specifically make it
very difficult when they can't respond

2192
02:48:41,760 --> 02:48:46,960
so what we'd like to do is make sure
we're getting information about

2193
02:48:44,960 --> 02:48:50,640
out to the public about how
those programs work without identifying

2194
02:48:49,200 --> 02:48:56,000
information about the folks they're
talking about but also about how complex

2195
02:48:52,880 --> 02:49:00,319
and challenging those situations can be
and also as soon as they learn the laws

2196
02:48:58,800 --> 02:49:05,200
and the regulations they continue to
change we're five weeks away from family

2197
02:49:02,479 --> 02:49:09,920
first hitting the next threshold on
september 30th so that also i think is

2198
02:49:08,000 --> 02:49:14,560
going to change the dynamics again it
would be great to have this discussion

2199
02:49:12,080 --> 02:49:19,520
um addressed we can all improve and
figure out where our challenges lie

2200
02:49:16,880 --> 02:49:22,800
so that um i don't i don't think
necessarily a formal vote's required

2201
02:49:21,040 --> 02:49:27,600
unless there's an objection i'd like to
move forward they are tired they are

2202
02:49:24,880 --> 02:49:32,399
stressed and the goals that they have
the state has provided them and has not

2203
02:49:30,240 --> 02:49:36,880
changed to keep animals together are
there any objections to having a third

2204
02:49:34,160 --> 02:49:40,240
party review of the situation in dss i
have a question about that

2205
02:49:48,660 --> 02:49:54,560
[Applause]
when we say third parties that's the

2206
02:49:53,600 --> 02:49:59,040
state
external no the state is already

2207
02:49:56,720 --> 02:50:01,520
involved all right thank you that's all
we need to do

2208
02:50:02,000 --> 02:50:06,560
just a comment
uh

2209
02:50:04,319 --> 02:50:12,479
the members of this board
are going it equally difficult

2210
02:50:09,200 --> 02:50:17,120
uh as are our employees
to uh

2211
02:50:14,479 --> 02:50:23,240
be silent on what's uh
occurring

2212
02:50:18,240 --> 02:50:23,240
uh and uh being unable to respond

2213
02:50:23,520 --> 02:50:30,720
uh you know certain individuals uh so i
think it's completely unfair

2214
02:50:28,479 --> 02:50:34,720
to expect that we are going to make any
comments at all particularly in light of

2215
02:50:33,279 --> 02:50:39,439
when you've got at least one
investigation going on and another one

2216
02:50:36,960 --> 02:50:45,040
contemplated so
just a point of interest it's difficult

2217
02:50:41,840 --> 02:50:45,040
on this side of it too

2218
02:50:47,600 --> 02:50:53,520
lastly i'd like to share with you
dylan's going to bring it up right now

2219
02:50:51,920 --> 02:50:57,040
we had
i want to share with you an individual

2220
02:50:55,359 --> 02:51:00,640
making a difference
and this relates to dss

2221
02:50:59,040 --> 02:51:06,000
a 15 year old
from home carecon

2222
02:51:02,319 --> 02:51:10,479
ashley mckinley donated made and donated
50 teddy bears this summer with her

2223
02:51:07,840 --> 02:51:14,399
grandmother um and is donating them to
the foster children in saint louis

2224
02:51:11,920 --> 02:51:17,359
county so we're really proud of ashley
she brought them in

2225
02:51:16,000 --> 02:51:20,720
i was able to share them when i met with
the caseworkers to take back immediately

2226
02:51:19,359 --> 02:51:26,560
and get those in the hands of foster
children so while a lot of what we have

2227
02:51:23,200 --> 02:51:31,060
to do isn't great news is a challenge um
there's some great people out there

2228
02:51:27,840 --> 02:51:37,610
doing great things this is ashley
[Applause]

2229
02:51:44,399 --> 02:51:52,560
can we
do something do a resolution uh or a

2230
02:51:50,319 --> 02:51:54,720
presentation to actually
to

2231
02:51:53,359 --> 02:52:00,560
formally
thank her for her efforts uh i think

2232
02:51:58,640 --> 02:52:05,359
it would mean a lot to
a 15 year old to be

2233
02:52:03,120 --> 02:52:09,279
brought to the board and
formally

2234
02:52:06,880 --> 02:52:14,640
thanked happy to do so
she's probably had some great teachers

2235
02:52:11,279 --> 02:52:14,640
at home she might have

2236
02:52:23,120 --> 02:52:27,960
okay so we have an old and new business

2237
02:52:38,080 --> 02:52:44,640
so we delayed the
social services statistics and so you

2238
02:52:43,279 --> 02:52:49,200
all had an opportunity to take a look at
them um as i mentioned to you there will

2239
02:52:47,200 --> 02:52:53,200
continue to be work in
progress as we evolve there's statistics

2240
02:52:51,680 --> 02:52:56,399
there you'd like to see or that you
don't think are necessary

2241
02:53:03,680 --> 02:53:09,439
thank you good evening i'll do my best
to go through the department's july data

2242
02:53:08,399 --> 02:53:13,439
report
and thank you to dylan for some

2243
02:53:11,520 --> 02:53:16,560
technical assistance by sharing your
screen

2244
02:53:15,040 --> 02:53:21,120
um
page one child protective services

2245
02:53:19,359 --> 02:53:24,880
i'd like to point out
um the decrease in the number of

2246
02:53:23,680 --> 02:53:32,160
referrals
and the total children added

2247
02:53:28,960 --> 02:53:36,960
this is not unusual for summer months
we do expect an uptick when children

2248
02:53:34,880 --> 02:53:42,399
return to school but we are happy to see
numbers are down

2249
02:53:39,680 --> 02:53:47,600
moving to the middle of the page
indicated unfounded and family

2250
02:53:44,560 --> 02:53:51,200
assessment and response
our

2251
02:53:48,479 --> 02:53:55,279
percentages have
wavered a little but they remained

2252
02:53:53,920 --> 02:54:00,080
fairly
uh consistent

2253
02:53:58,160 --> 02:54:05,040
i'll note that the u.s department of
health and human services from their

2254
02:54:01,680 --> 02:54:11,040
2019 summary finding found that across
the united states the average rate was

2255
02:54:07,200 --> 02:54:14,800
about 16 percent so we're not far off
from their summary findings

2256
02:54:15,760 --> 02:54:22,240
the safety checks completed on time this
is the

2257
02:54:19,600 --> 02:54:27,680
child protective services caseworkers
inputting the documentation for

2258
02:54:25,279 --> 02:54:31,359
the safety assessments we've seen an
incredible increase

2259
02:54:29,600 --> 02:54:36,720
since
march and it was 94 for the month of

2260
02:54:34,399 --> 02:54:42,880
june and i'm happy to report that it'll
be higher next next uh report out i just

2261
02:54:39,920 --> 02:54:42,880
received that today

2262
02:54:43,120 --> 02:54:51,040
page two
as expected the average cps pace load

2263
02:54:48,560 --> 02:54:54,960
has decreased slightly with the
reduction in the number of referrals

2264
02:54:53,040 --> 02:54:59,439
coming in
and you see that again in the middle

2265
02:54:56,399 --> 02:55:04,640
graph the total case load
referrals

2266
02:55:01,120 --> 02:55:04,640
on a trend downward

2267
02:55:05,040 --> 02:55:12,560
the next set of
charts speak to the cases by month

2268
02:55:10,800 --> 02:55:16,800
per supervisor
so you'll notice that through most of

2269
02:55:14,479 --> 02:55:21,200
the cps units
the number of cases that the workers

2270
02:55:18,880 --> 02:55:26,080
have has gone down there are a couple of
instances where the numbers have gone up

2271
02:55:23,279 --> 02:55:30,880
and there are various reasons for that
um it would be difficult to speak to

2272
02:55:28,080 --> 02:55:34,960
that specifically unless i were to
uh

2273
02:55:31,680 --> 02:55:39,439
look into that further as to who it was
um

2274
02:55:37,200 --> 02:55:44,080
i'll just note the training period we
are on track and doing well with

2275
02:55:41,200 --> 02:55:48,640
training all of our new employees we
have several who

2276
02:55:45,680 --> 02:55:54,640
will be ready the middle of september
and we have an additional couple that

2277
02:55:50,800 --> 02:55:59,760
will be ready for the middle of october
and again the closed cases

2278
02:55:56,960 --> 02:56:04,960
it just kind of this chart spreads them
out based on

2279
02:56:01,120 --> 02:56:04,960
the years of service for the employee

2280
02:56:08,560 --> 02:56:15,840
looking at page four preventative
services

2281
02:56:13,439 --> 02:56:21,359
again you'll see a very slight reduction
in the number of children in care

2282
02:56:19,200 --> 02:56:26,240
we typically don't have a lot of control
over the number of children that are

2283
02:56:23,439 --> 02:56:30,240
coming in but there's been a lot of good
work done

2284
02:56:27,439 --> 02:56:36,560
to try to establish permanency faster
and in the middle chart you'll see

2285
02:56:32,720 --> 02:56:42,000
that um in the month of
july

2286
02:56:38,000 --> 02:56:45,040
we were able to discharge more children
than entered care

2287
02:56:47,279 --> 02:56:54,800
again the bottom charts average number
of children in care were hovering around

2288
02:56:52,560 --> 02:57:00,240
we were hovering around that 3 30ish
mark

2289
02:56:57,040 --> 02:57:06,840
and we have seen a slight reduction
the average number of days in care

2290
02:57:04,080 --> 02:57:11,279
it notes that we're seeking additional
clarification and that is ongoing

2291
02:57:17,359 --> 02:57:23,920
so the
number of children that are receiving

2292
02:57:21,439 --> 02:57:26,880
preventive services in the home has been
fairly steady

2293
02:57:27,040 --> 02:57:36,399
the case loads are a little bit higher
but still appropriate

2294
02:57:34,000 --> 02:57:40,960
the number of cases per month by
supervisor

2295
02:57:38,240 --> 02:57:43,520
you see fluctuations between one and
three

2296
02:57:41,840 --> 02:57:47,120
cases again there are a couple of
outliers but for the most part it's

2297
02:57:45,920 --> 02:57:51,840
within
a couple of cases and stabilizing

2298
02:57:53,279 --> 02:57:59,359
and again looking at the training period
on page six

2299
02:57:57,600 --> 02:58:03,359
we are really targeting the middle of
september for

2300
02:58:01,359 --> 02:58:09,520
a small group of new employees to be
ready

2301
02:58:05,520 --> 02:58:14,640
cases closed for preventive services
cases closed or moved to be closed when

2302
02:58:12,319 --> 02:58:19,279
needed services by the family
are completed and the risk within the

2303
02:58:16,640 --> 02:58:23,600
home is reduced so preventive cases
typically close when court ordered

2304
02:58:21,200 --> 02:58:28,160
services are completed
if you look at the

2305
02:58:25,279 --> 02:58:31,760
bottom of page six adoption activity
again pretty steady but what we like to

2306
02:58:30,960 --> 02:58:34,800
see
is the number of children that are free

2307
02:58:33,520 --> 02:58:40,160
for adoption
is steadily increasing and that speaks

2308
02:58:37,279 --> 02:58:46,520
to the efforts for
improved permanency timelines for

2309
02:58:42,880 --> 02:58:46,520
children and care

2310
02:58:47,760 --> 02:58:51,920
on page
seven

2311
02:58:53,040 --> 02:59:00,800
this is a breakdown of the number of
children that are in

2312
02:58:57,520 --> 02:59:06,960
foster care placements
certified foster boarding homes

2313
02:59:03,359 --> 02:59:12,240
kinship homes institutions
supervised independent living programs

2314
02:59:09,520 --> 02:59:15,600
other and of course home on trial basis
youth

2315
02:59:13,840 --> 02:59:18,720
this is
something that i wanted to point out

2316
02:59:17,120 --> 02:59:23,120
because it does speak to our family
first goals

2317
02:59:20,560 --> 02:59:27,520
we have already met the threshold of 50
percent

2318
02:59:24,319 --> 02:59:32,160
for kinship homes we were at 54 percent
and we have already met the threshold

2319
02:59:29,359 --> 02:59:36,800
for institutional or congregate care
which is to be below eight percent and

2320
02:59:34,000 --> 02:59:40,960
we are at four percent
so those are important milestones

2321
02:59:39,520 --> 02:59:46,240
that our
children's services staff have worked

2322
02:59:42,640 --> 02:59:46,240
hard to accomplish to date

2323
02:59:46,479 --> 02:59:54,399
on the final page
in our eligibility programs

2324
02:59:50,880 --> 02:59:59,359
you'll see a an increase in snap
recipients and a slight decrease in ta

2325
03:00:00,720 --> 03:00:08,479
in speaking to the staff in those areas
they referred to the emergency rental

2326
03:00:06,160 --> 03:00:14,720
assistance program and the moratorium on
evictions as part of the reasoning for

2327
03:00:12,080 --> 03:00:19,520
the ta applications being down and snap
benefits perhaps being

2328
03:00:17,120 --> 03:00:21,760
increased with people
out of work

2329
03:00:20,720 --> 03:00:27,279
and on
you know potentially having less of an

2330
03:00:24,160 --> 03:00:32,960
income as the threshold is
lower for ta

2331
03:00:30,000 --> 03:00:39,399
seven staff are doing the referrals to
the e-wrap program that i mentioned in

2332
03:00:35,120 --> 03:00:39,399
addition to their regular duties

2333
03:00:40,479 --> 03:00:45,760
and
i'll open it up for i guess any

2334
03:00:43,279 --> 03:00:45,760
questions

2335
03:00:46,800 --> 03:00:49,120
anyone

2336
03:00:49,319 --> 03:00:56,800
mr heather how many
cases do we have

2337
03:00:54,800 --> 03:01:00,880
for temporary assistance that have
exceeded the five-year limit

2338
03:00:58,960 --> 03:01:07,200
that the county and the state are
responsible for and in addition to that

2339
03:01:04,000 --> 03:01:11,680
how many cases have have the
state dropped

2340
03:01:08,640 --> 03:01:15,200
and made the county responsible for the
uh entire expenses

2341
03:01:15,600 --> 03:01:21,760
so that is a good question i do not know
the answer but i will find out thank you

2342
03:01:20,720 --> 03:01:24,720
very much
mr ray

2343
03:01:23,040 --> 03:01:27,439
thank you um
two

2344
03:01:26,000 --> 03:01:30,399
points one
could we ask

2345
03:01:28,960 --> 03:01:35,520
that
instead of initials on some of the

2346
03:01:32,399 --> 03:01:40,640
programs that we just have
what it is so that

2347
03:01:38,720 --> 03:01:45,040
other people will be reading these
reports who

2348
03:01:42,399 --> 03:01:51,920
may not know what uh
temporary assistance is and

2349
03:01:48,479 --> 03:01:55,920
the nutrition program and others
so that it's a little bit more

2350
03:01:53,200 --> 03:02:02,920
accessible to those who
see this secondly

2351
03:01:59,120 --> 03:02:02,920
on the uh

2352
03:02:04,000 --> 03:02:12,240
adoption activity
the

2353
03:02:07,359 --> 03:02:12,240
children freed without adoptive resource

2354
03:02:15,279 --> 03:02:23,120
refresh my memory as to what that is
sure so the children that are freed

2355
03:02:21,279 --> 03:02:29,520
without an adoption resource are
children who have legally been freed but

2356
03:02:26,000 --> 03:02:35,040
for whatever reason they do not have a
foster parent or a legal guardian um

2357
03:02:32,640 --> 03:02:38,000
who's wanting to take permanent custody
custody of them

2358
03:02:38,640 --> 03:02:46,880
so what happens to you though
well we can if they wish if they wish to

2359
03:02:44,800 --> 03:02:51,520
be adopted or if they do not have a
choice being under the age of 14 and

2360
03:02:49,520 --> 03:02:55,439
being freed for adoption
then we continue to look for what we

2361
03:02:53,760 --> 03:02:59,600
call hard to place
placements so we have several agencies

2362
03:02:57,600 --> 03:03:03,520
that we work with throughout the state
who help us to locate

2363
03:03:01,600 --> 03:03:08,560
families and
individual providers who may be

2364
03:03:06,160 --> 03:03:11,200
interested so we seek resources outside
of our county

2365
03:03:11,439 --> 03:03:18,080
all right let's
back up a little bit so

2366
03:03:16,319 --> 03:03:25,960
you got a child
and you classified the child as free

2367
03:03:21,600 --> 03:03:25,960
without adopted resources

2368
03:03:27,040 --> 03:03:33,120
what happened where is that child who's
caring for it um

2369
03:03:33,520 --> 03:03:39,279
what's going on
well the child could the child is in

2370
03:03:37,600 --> 03:03:43,760
foster care the child's in the custody
of the commissioner of social services

2371
03:03:41,200 --> 03:03:47,680
the child would be placed in either a
certified foster home that just is not

2372
03:03:45,920 --> 03:03:52,240
interested in adoption
or the child could be placed in one of

2373
03:03:50,000 --> 03:03:58,800
those other
options such as congregate care

2374
03:03:55,520 --> 03:04:03,439
institutional care or a still or
um an independent living pro you know

2375
03:04:00,560 --> 03:04:07,359
type program so it could be any of those
okay thank you that's that's what

2376
03:04:06,240 --> 03:04:12,240
i
wasn't quite sure

2377
03:04:09,200 --> 03:04:17,359
so heather what qualifies them as free
do they reach a certain age or is it a

2378
03:04:15,120 --> 03:04:25,600
certain stability did you explain that
to the legislative body what makes them

2379
03:04:20,840 --> 03:04:27,840
free sure so um a child becomes freed
when

2380
03:04:26,800 --> 03:04:32,319
one
or both parents rights have been

2381
03:04:30,160 --> 03:04:38,080
terminated to the child and i say one or
both because in some instances the child

2382
03:04:35,040 --> 03:04:41,920
has only one confirmed parent so when
the parents rights have been terminated

2383
03:04:40,000 --> 03:04:45,840
by the court or the parent chooses or
elects to surrender their rights then

2384
03:04:43,920 --> 03:04:49,359
the child becomes legally freed for
adoption

2385
03:04:47,840 --> 03:04:53,680
okay
that's a great explanation thank you

2386
03:04:52,000 --> 03:04:56,000
does anybody else have any questions for
heather

2387
03:04:57,120 --> 03:05:04,439
thank you for your report very clear
have a good night

2388
03:05:12,240 --> 03:05:19,800
so any
more old or new business

2389
03:05:15,680 --> 03:05:19,800
mr corset i think

2390
03:05:30,840 --> 03:05:39,600
um library funding and i sent an email
out to everyone on the board

2391
03:05:37,439 --> 03:05:45,120
years ago we used to
one dollar per person please hundreds

2392
03:05:42,479 --> 03:05:50,880
okay 110
another person to help the 19 i believe

2393
03:05:48,319 --> 03:05:54,800
there's 19 libraries
and when we call on rough times

2394
03:05:53,279 --> 03:05:59,160
whatever
that was one of the full cpus

2395
03:06:01,680 --> 03:06:06,720
um
one of the things you pointed out is we

2396
03:06:04,800 --> 03:06:10,880
are one of the only counties not the
only county that doesn't

2397
03:06:08,720 --> 03:06:14,840
give any sort of support
to

2398
03:06:11,680 --> 03:06:14,840
our life

2399
03:06:24,880 --> 03:06:31,040
she asked
now that the county's doing better

2400
03:06:29,120 --> 03:06:36,080
maybe not to where we're supposed to be
doing better um

2401
03:06:33,600 --> 03:06:41,040
would there be opportunity to
reinstate that fund i said well i'll see

2402
03:06:38,800 --> 03:06:45,040
what the world
it was just is what the world board is

2403
03:06:43,200 --> 03:06:49,359
by the response i got to the emails i
got one that said it would support it

2404
03:06:47,840 --> 03:06:53,359
and
i could go either way

2405
03:06:51,120 --> 03:06:56,800
um
i just wanted to throw it out there to

2406
03:06:54,960 --> 03:07:01,439
just say
i looked into it there's not a there's

2407
03:06:58,800 --> 03:07:06,000
not a stomach for it at this time
or or maybe there is but it also got me

2408
03:07:04,000 --> 03:07:10,240
thinking about something
so the tacticals are going to be going

2409
03:07:07,359 --> 03:07:13,840
on next week
and i know when i buy my hunting license

2410
03:07:12,080 --> 03:07:18,640
there's an opportunity on the license if
i want to donate to the way wildlife i

2411
03:07:16,319 --> 03:07:24,720
can contribute five dollars away
have we ever considered the outside

2412
03:07:21,120 --> 03:07:29,520
funding sources a little blurb in there
yes i want to donate two dollars towards

2413
03:07:27,120 --> 03:07:32,000
the library i want to make ten dollars
for

2414
03:07:30,240 --> 03:07:36,319
whatever have we ever considered
anything like that

2415
03:07:33,920 --> 03:07:39,840
and leave it to each individual to me i
don't mind spending two bucks here

2416
03:07:37,680 --> 03:07:43,359
people say whatever but not everyone
does and i did so

2417
03:07:42,080 --> 03:07:46,720
but it would give everyone an
opportunity

2418
03:07:44,640 --> 03:07:52,080
and they put a little check mark on each
tax bill and say yeah i'd like to build

2419
03:07:48,800 --> 03:07:52,080
five ten twenty dollars

2420
03:08:02,560 --> 03:08:10,769
where's your wildlife fun thing the time
you're behind

2421
03:08:07,700 --> 03:08:10,769
[Music]

2422
03:08:18,319 --> 03:08:25,120
language about going local so the
language that sits on the tax bill is

2423
03:08:22,720 --> 03:08:29,760
very uh specific and that could be
handled for a local law process let me

2424
03:08:26,960 --> 03:08:33,840
look into that so i can find out
and i don't know how anyone else feels

2425
03:08:39,760 --> 03:08:45,680
anyone else
so we do have a need for executive

2426
03:08:42,880 --> 03:08:50,000
session for what items we do for
litigation personnel which is the

2427
03:08:47,920 --> 03:08:53,680
medical financial credit or employment
history of a particular person or

2428
03:08:52,000 --> 03:08:58,160
corporation or matters leading to the
appointment employment promotion

2429
03:08:55,600 --> 03:09:02,640
demotion discipline suspension dismissal
or removal of a particular person or

2430
03:09:00,000 --> 03:09:02,640
corporation

2431
03:09:12,399 --> 03:09:15,960
gonna have a few minutes

2432
03:09:20,319 --> 03:09:27,040
uh we're still waiting for the direction
from census bureau on some of those

2433
03:09:25,040 --> 03:09:31,200
specifics and the numbers
that we're going to need in order for us

2434
03:09:28,319 --> 03:09:35,680
to do our job we don't meet here until
september 13th so that's a while from

2435
03:09:33,520 --> 03:09:39,680
now it's called this participle board
so at that meeting i will be making it

2436
03:09:37,840 --> 03:09:42,960
official
from my appointments

2437
03:09:41,200 --> 03:09:46,479
that i go out and give a meeting but i
just wanted everybody to know the list

2438
03:09:44,800 --> 03:09:50,080
is already
available

2439
03:09:47,920 --> 03:09:54,640
and at least as far as i'm concerned i'm
going to let you know that i'll have uh

2440
03:09:52,160 --> 03:09:58,239
jill lightfoot we'll be scared of it
we're going to rick perkins on it

2441
03:10:05,359 --> 03:10:12,319
anything else to come before the board
before you jared

2442
03:10:09,439 --> 03:10:16,239
scene done motion to adjourn by mrs
bergen second by mr