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[0:13] I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic
[0:19] for which it stands. One nation under
God, indivisible, with liberty and
[0:26] justice for all.
All
[0:35] right. Robo
[0:39] » here.
Ryan
[0:43] » here.
Felix
[0:45] » here.
>> All president.
[0:53] All right.
We have now approval of the agenda.
[1:00] Motion to approve those
motion made.
[1:06] All in favor?
Any vote?
[1:13] Consent agenda. Motion passes.
Consent agenda from the previous
[1:18] meeting. Report collector's report bills
for payment. city clerk to pay for
[1:22] evenly appropriate expenses that you can
do by the budget.
[1:28] It should be in your package.
Do you hear me?
[1:32] » Yeah.
>> Okay.
[1:38] Can you see anything?
[1:43] » Uh I can see everything.
Uh I don't have a packet with me unless
[1:48] you did Leslie email it to me.
[1:53] I can get you to scan. I didn't want to
scan anything else.
[1:58] Actually, I can send
I'll send it over to you. Okay.
[2:17] All
[2:28] right.
[2:53] » [snorts]
[3:00] » Doc, you getting those?
>> Yeah, I have them.
[3:03] » I appreciate that. Yes. Okay. So here
[4:05] Okay.
[4:13] Mhm.
[4:19] something.
[4:41] Yeah.
[4:48] Yeah.
[5:02] Heat.
[5:21] level.
[5:36] I'm sorry. All right.
Okay.
[5:43] » Okay.
[5:47] » I got one more for you and it should be
it.
[5:50] » All right.
>> Sorry.
[5:55] Not very fast here. And by the time you
receive them,
[5:59] » okay,
>> you should be good now.
[6:04] Heat.
[6:25] Heat.
[7:24] Heat. Heat.
[8:12] Are you ready?
[8:16] Heat.
[8:40] Heat.
[9:24] Everybody had a chance to review Doc.
You still reviewing?
[9:28] » Uh, yeah.
>> Okay.
[9:49] Heat. Heat.
[10:12] questions on it
[10:17] on that consent agenda
[10:23] here. Okay.
[10:35] You asking for a second?
>> Oh, there's
[10:39] no motion. I just was a motion.
>> I'm sorry.
[10:43] » That's all right.
>> I was making sure got caught up.
[10:48] » Yeah.
>> Okay.
[10:56] Come here.
[11:22] Just
[11:27] [clears throat]
all right.
[11:51] Yep.
[12:03] » Okay.
[12:20] a lot of the wrong
[12:37] whatever. There's
[12:54] no
[13:01] just
[13:33] It's good.
How many How many rolls?
[13:39] » 29.
[14:52] Very
[15:13] good.
[15:20] Very
[15:24] cool.
[15:46] So that sounds
[16:12] » papers.
C.
[16:18] » Huh?
>> C.
[16:22] » Okay.
>> Caleb's
[16:37] name.
[16:43] beautiful.
[16:55] » Uh
[16:59] general hydraulics
general hydraulics.
[17:22] That's the place.
[17:36] This time this American
[17:52] [clears throat]
[18:07] coming from the cold to that junction.
[18:11] What did you call
white
[18:21] over there?
>> That's your main line. That's
[18:30] » a three base cut off.
>> Three phase.
[18:32] » Three phase.
>> Three phase shut off.
[18:35] » Three phase. [snorts]
[18:37] here
at three phase
[18:41] » transfer switch.
[18:49] [snorts]
>> Yeah, it's three phase.
[19:03] All right. I'll be still working on
that.
[19:18] » Yeah.
[19:41] Heat. Heat.
[20:27] Yeah.
[21:34] » [clears throat]
[22:37] » How many miles?
Eight.
[23:16] » [clears throat]
[23:19] » Not too hard.
[23:47] I just need to clarify something. Am I
supposed to be reviewing something?
[23:52] I have no direction here on what to do.
[clears throat]
[23:55] » You always you review the consent
agenda. The board makes a motion on the
[23:59] floor of the consent agenda. It needs to
be seconded. If you all agree on the
[24:04] consent agenda and all what the
reconciles, the budget reports and
[24:08] what's in the packet and then it votes
on it. If it passes or dies or carries
[24:15] or dies
>> and that's what we're supposed to be
[24:17] looking at right now.
>> Yeah. I mean for I mean can but I mean
[24:20] that's what we're supposed to be doing
right now.
[24:24] » Yeah. I didn't know if you had motion on
the table. I was asking
[24:29] » Yeah.
[24:33] I just I guess
[24:41] » the receipt or whatever.
>> Ask the clerk. I mean,
[24:48] » what does he want?
[24:53] » That giant boulder. We'll be here all
night.
[24:59] and then
>> No, we didn't. That's what the treasurer
[25:04] is for. That's what the chamber pays the
big money.
[25:08] » Huh?
>> And he didn't show.
[25:10] » No, I asked him to. We can talk about
that later. That's what I'm saying.
[25:15] » Oh,
this is the same as prior before,
[25:19] » right?
>> We've been printing out 44 pages.
[25:23] » No. No.
>> You know what I mean?
[25:25] » No, pretty much. know what's going on.
Just want to see what
[25:30] » I even asked him to do that
he even showed that
[25:35] » summary budget,
>> you know, budget summary.
[25:39] » I thought we had to look at that at home
and then just came to vote on it
[25:42] tonight.
>> Yeah, this is just what you got the
[25:46] monthlys are. This is the basic stuff.
So,
[25:48] » can we move on then?
>> Yeah, we we need a motion and a second.
[25:52] » I like a motion that we approve it and
move on.
[25:58] I'll second
>> by Rose. All in favor?
[26:07] » I
[26:11] Okay.
[26:18] » Okay. All right. Moving on. All right.
We got here
[26:25] this previous meeting
for anybody signing up.
[26:33] » Okay. Uh does the board want to make any
is yours for permitting,
[26:43] Steve?
>> Well, I'm just going to share you guys
[26:46] my ideas about what what the project is
and what I'm interested in doing. that
[26:50] you guys thoughts on it.
>> You like brought in blueprints or
[26:55] something like that.
>> Yeah, I just kind of handed stuff to
[26:58] some.
>> I mean, can I just kind of share with
[27:01] you guys?
>> Sure, Steve. Now, there's two of you
[27:04] here tonight. Are you both here to speak
to us tonight?
[27:06] » Yeah.
>> Okay. So, what we're saying is there's a
[27:09] signup sheet or something.
>> Yeah.
[27:13] » Okay. So, come anytime you want to talk.
We just want to make sure everybody get
[27:17] a chance to talk. the board can make an
exception with that if the sheets aren't
[27:22] out they can speak.
Well,
[27:27] yeah. I I
[27:32] still love that house. And I've talked
to Adam about what we're interested.
[27:37] We're purchasing the old antique mall
from the Fishers, Bobby and Carla Fisher
[27:42] up on the hill. And my our initial
thought was uh we were wanting to cuz I
[27:47] I built a subdivision back in 2020 2003
in Fredericktown condominiums and that
[27:56] was what my thought was initially on
this property. But after reviewing the
[28:01] property and talking to some different
real estate people in the area that
[28:05] really knows the market, we're we're
we're going to shift and potentially
[28:09] build some houses first and then on the
the open ground that's up there, not
[28:14] what the concrete is. And then if if we
find that we get a lot of people as
[28:18] we're building these houses that want
the senior houses, then we might bust up
[28:22] that concrete and put senior houses on
the back side. That way they're more
[28:27] private. They're more cuz I think
seniors would prefer to be more safer
[28:33] cuz whenever I built my subdivision down
in Tretown, I put a road in and they
[28:37] were kind of a controlled entry point on
that property up there with the road
[28:41] kind of around it. There's really not a
whole lot of safety that maybe the
[28:45] seniors desire. So, but but if I say
that in if I can't figure out what to do
[28:51] with the concrete, then I was going to
have Bobby come in with his crushing
[28:54] machine and just bust it up. We'll use
the rock for foundations, but we're
[29:00] going to kind of put that on hold for
maybe while we're building these houses.
[29:03] So, the the type of houses that we're
looking for East Missouri Action for the
[29:09] last uh uh since 2022, they got a grant
to build houses and train and we've been
[29:16] [clears throat] building these kind of
houses. This this is a little three
[29:19] bedroomedroom uh two bath house that
we've been building and we're selling
[29:23] for like 170 over in the
>> Okay. This is one of the type of houses
[29:31] that's got a cuz the property is going
to really do well with a combination of
[29:37] of I like to kind of show you my the
layout of the property that we're
[29:47] using.
>> So the property is kind of this is kind
[29:50] of where the concrete slab starts and
kind of wraps around and I said we might
[29:55] use that for senior housing. That way
it's more private. And so we're going to
[29:59] build some houses down in this area
that's got uh onecar garages that you
[30:04] can drive in from the street and come
right into the house. And that'll be
[30:08] this type of a house. So it it'll be a
cute little onecar garage with a front
[30:14] porch and other style of the house that
we have. It it looks it's pretty much
[30:19] the same. It's just got a little bit of
a different facade on it the front end,
[30:23] but they're still about the same house.
are about 1,400 to,500.
[30:28] » Two bedroom three bedroom.
>> Yeah, that'll be three bedroomedroom,
[30:31] two bath. And then and then these will
have the garages. So, we're going to put
[30:35] those along the road down here. And then
what in this other area, we're going to
[30:42] have an alley that kind of comes up off
of the the road that goes up the hill.
[30:47] And then this is the concrete slab here.
And there's going to be an alley through
[30:51] here that'll be a oneway alley. And
we're going to build little uh three
[30:56] bedroomedroom, two bath houses. And
we're going to offer a base model for a
[31:00] bath and a half. And they're going to
have rear entry garages. So we're going
[31:04] to have detached rear entry garages. So
they can come in the alley and come into
[31:08] the
>> 50t lot straight across.
[31:11] » Yes.
>> And then uh an alley for parking.
[31:13] » Yeah. Garbage pickup or whatever.
>> Yeah. And the alley. Yeah. We're going
[31:17] to have the garbage coming alley.
>> That leaves us a place to put water
[31:21] systems through and all that. That's
what I was going to talk to you guys cuz
[31:24] I think the water line goes around the
whole perimeter
[31:28] » there too
>> and that's the thing we're going to be
[31:32] getting that information. We just got
the contract signed
[31:36] » and we're going to be doing a an
environmental assessment study on that
[31:40] property just to make sure there wasn't
any cuz this being a leather factory at
[31:44] one time. We're little concern
>> before we build homes for people to make
[31:50] sure there was nothing that would be a
concern of building houses cuz that's
[31:54] the last thing we want to do is build
houses on.
[31:58] » So we're going to be doing it. We are uh
contracting with this company to do an
[32:02] environmental assessment.
>> But Mr. River, let me ask you this.
[32:06] Where are the existing roads at on this?
>> Right now, roads just basically go
[32:11] around
>> on three sides.
[32:14] » Yeah.
>> And on this side over here are already
[32:16] houses.
>> Well, there's concrete. That's a big
[32:18] concrete.
>> Then there's some Yeah, there's some
[32:21] houses. There's a house right here.
>> Then that one lady owns like a big track
[32:25] of land here. lady in town
that that four or five acres right there
[32:32] in that
area here. So, so that's where we're
[32:36] wanting to build houses with garages
over here. Houses with detached rear
[32:41] entry garages and then we're going to
have parking and we're going to set the
[32:45] houses back up and have parking and we'd
like to put sidewalks through that too.
[32:48] That would look nice. So, this
particular lot here, you look like you
[32:51] got about 13 houses there. Yeah, we're
going to put 13 houses cuz there's going
[32:56] to be two lots are going to be narrow
because of the spacing. And then I got a
[33:00] three I got a twotory model that I I
built. Also,
[33:06] this is the twotory model that's only 24
ft wide and it's got three bedrooms
[33:11] upstairs and it's got a flex room on the
first floor. It could be a bedroom, too.
[33:17] So, this one be about 16.
>> Yeah. paint. [cough]
[33:24] » This is the twobedroom model. We're only
going to build three of those cuz the
[33:28] market for three bedrooms are pretty
weak. But if people come in and they
[33:32] want 1,600 square ft, that's what we're
going to offer.
[33:36] » We're going to try to start these out
about 165 for the the detached garage
[33:42] model. Then the garage will be an option
if they want a garage. Some people price
[33:47] point,
>> but we're going to try to do a garage
[33:50] for around $15,000 for a one car garage
and 20,000 for a twocar garage. They can
[33:56] either attach
>> nice looking clean houses.
[34:00] » So on this uh top piece here, the 13
houses on this bottom square here, how
[34:04] many houses you think? Seven.
>> About 20 houses. Yeah.
[34:09] » Um
>> the uh I don't think the words generally
[34:14] have any issue at all the way that's
laid out. It's just in the middle there,
[34:19] you know, in the middle there's just a
main transit, emergency transit. But I
[34:25] talked to Michael and what they plan on
when they go to this interconnect
[34:31] system, which I just spoke with him an
hour ago. Um they're probably going to
[34:35] either disconnect or use it as it's
emergency only.
[34:39] » But that's all it's for. It's encased.
>> Yeah, it's actually encased in concrete
[34:45] and everything. So I mean even it's
there and it's never it's forever, you
[34:50] know, it's just for contingency where it
was.
[34:54] » So on this 50ft lot, 135 ft deep. Um
that's pretty much like a city lot in
[34:59] St. Louis.
>> Yeah. House
[35:01] and a subdivision. Yeah. that built in
the 1920s and 30s.
[35:05] » I envision like people go out there and
have walk up and down the road. So they
[35:10] they won't have any garages on the
front. So all the garages are going to
[35:13] be when you kind of walk down here.
They're all houses
[35:17] » and with nice little sidewalk
it's more of a community feel. It is you
[35:24] pull into the garage and then you lock
the door down and you're in your house.
[35:28] » Yeah.
>> We're hoping this will be more of a
[35:31] community. mailboxes all along the road
there.
[35:34] » Yeah, exactly.
>> And are you thinking about having like a
[35:37] a model available to somebody to look
at?
[35:40] » Yeah, cuz I say these are what I built
over in Egypt for East Missouri and we
[35:44] uh we sold we sold them all the one we
we're waiting on Amar to hook up our
[35:48] last ones. We're sold them. We're
starting a couple more. We got the roof
[35:52] on a set trusses next week. So these are
houses I built for Missouri action.
[35:58] » Yeah. That's what I'm hoping too to get
them over here and maybe build some
[36:02] houses on some of these empty lots
around. Yeah. I think there's an
[36:06] opportunity to really especially at that
price point and I think people in St.
[36:11] Mary are looking for other places for
their kids to still stay and be near
[36:14] their grandparents or you know parents
and not have to move out of town in
[36:18] order to get married and have children
or eager to retire.
[36:22] » So those are nice looking spots. And
then we got this little 50ft buffer here
[36:27] for green space. That's maybe a dog.
They can put a dog park out there.
[36:34] People want to have a dog. We'll have a
little space there. They can do whatever
[36:38] they want.
>> Yeah.
[36:39] » And for storm water
[36:45] be a lot of houses that don't have water
shed right now. So that's why our
[36:50] engineer said be the spot for water to
go and then so that could be the a
[36:55] little drainage area.
>> So is there a name for this development
[37:00] yet?
>> Not yet propos that yet?
[37:01] » No, not yet. We're our LLC. That's
what's nice is I'm teaming up with a
[37:07] gentleman out of here. His name is Luis
Talawantes and he him and his wife got a
[37:14] they've been flipping and rehabbing
houses and they won the business of the
[37:18] year award this year in the paper down
there. So they were nominated for the
[37:22] business of the year award.
>> How do you spell that name?
[37:25] » To t a l e t a l a m a n t e and I think
yeah's got a little bit of history,
[37:35] » but he's super nice guy. He's a veteran.
He's in the military still. He's a
[37:39] senior master sergeant. He does like u
like top secret kind of stuff with the
[37:45] military. He's in the he's in the
reserve. So, I'm really excited about
[37:49] teaming up with him on this project cuz
I built this will be my fifth
[37:53] subdivision I've built. This will be his
first. So,
[37:57] » I'm kind of mentoring him and he's he's
a super awesome Christian guy. He's just
[38:02] a really neat guy to kind of hook up
with. I'm excited about teaming up with
[38:06] him and uh and then like I say, if this
works well and we get a lot of lot of of
[38:13] desire, then I'm going to do something
with that concrete. I haven't quite
[38:16] figured out yet.
>> I think it'll be a good place for that
[38:20] senior community that I was thinking of.
>> How long do you think the study will
[38:25] take and all of that? They said it takes
about 3 weeks to get the study, the
[38:28] phase one study. And then they what they
do, they make a recommendation based on
[38:32] the results of the phase one study cuz
that's mainly going back in the history
[38:37] of the area to see if there was ever
[clears throat]
[38:40] any kind of recorded event that ever
happened on that property over time.
[38:45] » And I think they said that at one time
that was a subdivision. back at the
[38:48] time. I think he said that
years and years ago over there is like
[38:54] Prince Drive when they had the mobile
homes. There was approximately 60
[38:59] connections.
>> Do you remember at all before the
[39:02] leather factory?
>> My grandma from there.
[39:05] » Yeah.
A lot of us probably in town never knew
[39:09] before that period of time. Yeah. And I
got actual I guess vinyl disc
[39:16] for like employees and let them know
they're bringing out like every day they
[39:21] play to employees on photograph
like hey good job and all that. I don't
[39:27] have to play on but it says Prince
Gardener side one side two.
[39:34] So in theory we could add 40 more folks
to our population here. A few people
[39:39] lived in town [laughter] and there were
three there. There would be
[39:45] so that might add to
>> families. That's what going to be a lot
[39:49] of families
and the mayor and all of us have been
[39:53] working on city court for kids and stuff
>> cuz like I was talking with Doug Ber
[39:59] today you know he said he's been working
on I guess a park down here or
[40:04] something.
>> Yeah. So
[40:06] » I spoke with Gerald the other day.
>> Yeah, cuz I'm going to meet with him
[40:11] early part cuz I was trying to meet with
him yesterday but he's kind of busy
[40:15] instead of the first part of the week
cuz I want him do the actual design of
[40:19] subdivision.
>> So So once you get that phase one done,
[40:23] that's you can build there.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
[40:25] » And then after that you go through a
design phase or the subdivision.
[40:28] » Well, we're going to go and start.
>> Yeah, we're going to start waiting.
[40:34] Good start. This is going to be a pretty
basic
[40:38] out.
>> Yeah.
[40:39] » And won't be any twisting winding roads
or
[40:43] crazy.
>> And I was hoping that but Luis is with
[40:47] his family up in uh I mean up in
Wisconsin. They left yesterday. He
[40:53] already had plans for his families cuz I
think school starts next week.
[40:58] » We take his family. He's got three boys
and a little girl. So it's nice little
[41:02] family.
What is your estimated time to start?
[41:07] » We'd like to have a couple under under
roof for winter kind of work. So, we're
[41:11] hoping to build about five or six maybe.
If they sell, we can build here. I got
[41:18] 10 of these years. Well, they can build
this in a couple of years.
[41:22] » Yeah. If they all start selling and you
know, we can
[41:28] year cuz I was building my condos. I
built 19 condos in the 2 and 1/2 years
[41:35] condos.
>> So when you do those and you lay them
[41:37] out and the lots are finished, will they
have sidewalks for the house?
[41:42] » Yeah, that's what I was doing in my
condos. I was I trying to get grass grow
[41:48] and these yards aren't going to be real
big, right?
[41:50] » So you can saw them as you can try to
seed straw. It doesn't seem to work cuz
[41:57] Yeah. I I seed and straw the first
building down there when I started my
[42:00] condos and then I it didn't work. So I
went down adance.
[42:06] » So how do you see yourself marketing
these realtors? Luis has got some pretty
[42:11] good real estate connections in
Perryville and I've to I've built over
[42:19] probably 12 130 houses and I've only
sold probably five or six real estate
[42:24] agents.
I'm pretty good at talking to people
[42:28] » and I'm going to be moving in a a model
of it's called a park. I want to use it
[42:33] as my office and play and kind of a
place to show people and Lisa's wife is
[42:39] really good at like home decorating and
interior decorating that stuff. So,
[42:43] we're hoping maybe she'll work with a
lot of our customers to kind of design
[42:47] pick out.
I think it's a great idea, you know,
[42:53] um, kind of just what we need. We're
always talking about the fact that we
[42:56] don't have much land to develop on,
>> but to take a piece of land like that
[43:00] and develop into a community houses and
not so so much another factory or
[43:04] something, bring more people into town,
it's a great idea. I think the market is
[43:10] really strong because you got a
strategic location. I mean, we can even
[43:14] draw from potentially Chester. People
want to get out of
[43:19] » Yeah, we can even draw. We're going to
market over in Chester, too. So, yeah,
[43:24] we're going to I think the opportunity
cuz, you know, cuz that's what McBride
[43:28] is doing an open house thing next week.
[snorts] Next Wednesday. Yeah, next
[43:33] Wednesday they're going to do a meet the
community thing at the YMCA in St. Jen.
[43:38] So, I was going to just go there and
just kind of see see them and cuz then I
[43:43] think they're looking for contractors on
Thursday. So, they said they're going to
[43:47] try to hire a lot of local contractors.
So, I hope they don't. But Lu has got
[43:51] some guys that he's got next.
>> There's a really good journ and
[43:55] construction people here in all fields I
think and too there's a subdivision
[44:01] that's going in behind Buckeyes. Not to
change the subject or anything, but have
[44:05] you been back to see that? Is it those
condos or two places?
[44:09] » Yeah. They look like houses like houses,
but they're new places.
[44:13] » Yeah. And that's why I thought
there were any any condos in St. cuz he
[44:22] said he's never really cuz condos take
suspect. You got once you build them,
[44:26] you got to have them surveyed from the
walls in cuz that's how condos are sold
[44:29] from the walls in. And he said there's
not many condos in. Well, we don't have
[44:34] condos, but we have the retirement
community that are duplexes and
[44:38] » they're not sold.
>> They're not sold capital. We do have
[44:40] that kind of shared
>> Yeah. shared living space. Yeah.
[44:44] » Yeah. Cuz when you when you build and
sell condos is quite a bit involved. You
[44:48] got to set up your uh your HOA and you
got to all the the buildings are owned
[44:54] by everybody. So, it's like a it's so
it's a little challenging to get a an
[44:59] HOA cuz that's what I did down in
Frederick Town when I built my
[45:02] subdivision. It it took a little while
and and we in the city of Fredericktown
[45:07] never had anything before. So, we kind
of worked with Perryville to kind of
[45:11] model some of their ordinances and stuff
like that. So, so yeah, this so that's
[45:16] why I thought we're going to build the
houses first and then we're going to see
[45:20] if there is a market for [clears throat]
the senior condos like I did project.
[45:23] We're going to kind of test that. Yeah.
>> And if there is, then we're going to
[45:26] kind of open it up to the other section
of the property.
[45:29] » And we want to view your place over
there in town. Where's that located?
[45:32] » It's over, you know, where have you
been?
[45:34] » Oh, okay. You know where Captain America
is at out on 72 as you're heading out of
[45:39] town. Right down from uh right down from
Captain America.
[45:44] » Coming back to where it was. [snorts]
>> Uh well, let me see. on 72 Came America
[45:49] there down the hill from there is uh my
it's called Madison Meadows. It's kind
[45:55] of going into to
>> uh it's kind of it's it's h it's on the
[46:04] very edge of the city but that's where
it's at. It's kind of ironic Z out of
[46:09] Frederick Town which is Zos
and uh but yes so if you if you're
[46:16] coming into Frederick Town you got Cap
America then you got the the Lego Middle
[46:20] School or something then you get the
high school but if you turn right there
[46:24] on Cap America Drive and kind of go down
the hill to Highway Z my community is
[46:29] right there on that right side.
>> It's called Madison.
[46:33] » Can you see it from 72?
No, it's cut it down.
[46:37] » I go through there a lot. So, I'll check
it out.
[46:39] » Yeah.
>> Yeah. If you turn right there by Captain
[46:40] America
[46:58] at the very end of the culdeac, I built
single house for them because they
[47:02] didn't want to do something. And when I
did that, I started everybody wanted
[47:06] houses, but it's still kind of an
ownership style where the grass mode,
[47:11] you know, and the the buildings are all
maintained by the association. We only
[47:15] own from the drywall on onership.
[47:21] So that's where
>> Can we look at these pictures a little
[47:25] closer? You guys have
>> Steve, would you want to come back and
[47:30] like give a presentation
with me and we can kind of coordinate
[47:35] with everything when you're more
>> drafted and everything.
[47:40] » Yeah, that's what I think will have a
pot.
[47:43] » Yeah.
>> Yeah.
[47:46] People from the town see it
>> cuz he was out yesterday. That's what
[47:49] I'm talking about.
[47:53] Everything.
[47:58] surveys for me
and I know he's super nice
[48:04] as far as that's the thing I guess the
water
[48:16] I guess another meeting
[48:20] » that's in the next couple weeks I like
the time
[48:22] » yeah and and then the that the engineers
are an engineering guy.
[48:27] » They'll be coming up here soon.
>> I'd like to meet with them too cuz they
[48:31] might help me figure out where to
connection.
[48:34] » Yeah. And they can help you with that
cuz they've already gone in.
[48:38] » That would be awesome. That was one of
the big. So now my question just off the
[48:43] top as far as getting building, how do
you how do you guys work as far?
[48:49] » We do the permit builds on new
construction based on that. They go down
[48:53] how much value that everything and then
the right away if you got to move the
[48:58] line right that's all it is
>> there it's not real hard
[49:04] yeah cuz that's for like letington
rebuilding letington
[49:08] » yes
>> uh we had to get a permit
[49:11] but it was that it's like they don't do
permit inspections or anything so we had
[49:16] to you guys don't have inspection
>> oh you do
[49:20] » oh that is awesome because in length
they don't you We had to pay $800 for
[49:25] every house that rebuilding money to
have a third party inspector. 18 was an
[49:31] inspector. So you guys actually do
awesome.
[49:35] » Yeah, because that was because we're
used to like Arlington St.
[49:39] » Bigger City. They have
>> Yeah. They have their own inspectors. So
[49:42] that way when you go get a USDA loan,
it's been inspected by the municipality.
[49:48] So that's what we figured. That's what
we found. We're not going to build a
[49:51] lage anymore for this. And this guy was
trying to make us uh stick the Kansas
[49:55] City building code, which is like crazy.
It's like he was making us do all kinds
[50:00] of crazy crap that had no sense. And I
I've been building in Farmington
[50:06] and Park Hills and Pont. I never in
Farmington. I never had to do some of
[50:11] the crazy stuff this guy was making
throughout.
[50:17] » Okay. I'm glad you guys a little bit
more, but I mean we got checklist.
[50:22] » That was a huge issue that I was
thinking
[50:26] to hire a third party inspector in all
these houses. That's going to suck.
[50:32] » Yeah. No, that that'll make we
>> Yeah.
[50:36] » And these are all going to be on crawl
spaces unless unless somebody really
[50:40] wants a basement cuz basements
are they're expensive. It kind of kicks
[50:46] us out of that affordability when you
have to put $35,000 inside these things.
[50:51] » Yeah.
>> So, so we're trying to build these
[50:54] affordable. Affordability is what's
important to us. Making sure people can
[50:59] afford these houses.
>> Exactly.
[51:01] » Well, every time you $800 here, $800
there.
[51:06] » Yeah. Yeah. That inspection thing was
>> We do a occupancy permit right after
[51:11] it's built in, make sure everything's
safe.
[51:13] » Yeah. Cuz that's easy. the the concrete
you want, you know, we you guys do the
[51:17] concrete inspections and then you do
what they call the over ball. They come
[51:20] in and check the wiring
as to do construction inspection and
[51:26] gas.
>> Okay, awesome. That that that I'm glad
[51:31] you guys have that
>> and Steve could come in at the city at a
[51:34] better time for knowledgeable people
like and our city workers, you know. So
[51:42] it's a experienced team of people who do
awesome.
[51:46] » Yeah, because when I built my time was
the guy's name was Tim Morgan. He was
[51:49] the city administrator at that time and
uh they they not really built the
[51:54] subdivision. There was a subdivision
called time capsule out on the highway
[51:59] as you're leaving town. That was built
about 15 years. That was the last
[52:02] subdivision built in town. So there was
nobody there.
[52:07] We all kind of figured it out.
But yeah, but I'm glad that this is
[52:13] going to be a lot easier.
>> That's awesome. That's great.
[52:22] » With everybody once
will be there, you know, my business
[52:26] partner will be back from their last
vacation before school starts next. So
[52:33] » So yeah. And if anybody's got any
questions, call me.
[52:39] » What is your number, Steve? That's 573
747
[52:44] 998.
[52:48] » You say you'd like to try to start
getting signed by
[52:53] a couple to show people what look like
by by probably end of November. you
[52:58] know, at least get them under
[53:03] that's
basically
[53:08] results of that assessment test.
[53:16] » Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like I say, they've
been really good for East Missouri about
[53:20] as soon as we get them built, they're
sold. So,
[53:22] » yeah. This here, we're just waiting on
AM to pick the electric up. We got a
[53:27] temporary wire going one in there for
kind of light it up and show people. But
[53:31] am we've been waiting on them for two
weeks, three weeks, four weeks maybe.
[53:35] And I think they're the citizen. It's
easier to work with those guys.
[53:40] » Yeah. Business locals.
>> Yeah. I know when I build my house, I
[53:46] called them up and they were out like a
week and a half putting a pole in and
[53:49] putting temporary power so we could
build. I think citizen and I was used to
[53:55] like down in Frederick town city
electric's got city electric
[54:01] is
>> a challenge sometimes they're
[54:04] challenging
kind of sto we put this house on the
[54:09] market yesterday for 169
on the market yesterday
[54:14] » that's kind of your range 170
>> yeah
[54:19] like I said it doesn't have a garage
with this property We couldn't put a
[54:23] garage cuz it didn't have enough space.
So on these lots that we're building
[54:27] here, we're going to have
they want a garage. They want a garage.
[54:31] We're hoping people garage
[54:37] if we can. Yeah, we got to move on. We
got I'm not trying to get you. Let's
[54:42] schedule a time where we can get all
that just and everything and then kind
[54:46] of you guys can do your questionire
and then we'll just work from there and
[54:51] see too be back.
[54:57] Yeah, it is.
>> All right.
[55:01] » See, so you don't have to hang around.
You can if you like.
[55:04] » Yeah, you're not required.
[55:08] But um yeah, I appreciate you coming in.
Nice seeing you again.
[55:12] » Yeah, you guys, too. Good luck. I hang
out from time to time.
[55:21] » And one of the things that I'm thinking
about too are maybe part of that
[55:24] concrete maybe putting a little like a
little store like a little coffee shop,
[55:30] a little something. That's that's
something I'd really like to do. Maybe
[55:33] take some of that concrete and put
especially if I decide to go see this.
[55:36] I'd like to put like something like a
song with the
[55:39] » old
[55:45] coffee idea is a good
>> We have church Mondays and Fridays
[55:49] coffee with the old man.
>> Yes. See that?
[55:52] » Yeah, cuz that's what we're trying to
figure out what would be a good little
[55:55] maybe a little another restaurant. Vers
and there was a lady you were telling me
[56:00] that maybe you might want to open up
another restaurant there for years. I
[56:06] did an article when she retired. I think
she'd been here for 70 years.
[56:11] » I'd like to see us do a taco stand, but
you know that's just me.
[56:16] pretty rude. We can get food trucks to
come down. Maybe we'll have a food truck
[56:20] day once we get this going. Maybe it'll
be a little food truck spot there for
[56:26] until I decide what to do. That would be
a great spot truck little maybe three or
[56:31] four food trucks come down and offer
some food.
[56:37] that there might be a good business to
come down one day a week instead of cuz
[56:42] they do that at Farm Park Farmington at
the the Methodist church. They have a
[56:44] food truck every Friday something like
that. There's like 20 food trucks out
[56:50] there. Everybody works there. So that's
a good way to start.
[56:55] » Yeah. We have a couple food trucks come
down from up there and good for my
[57:01] community. That's true.
[57:05] » Thank you very much. Thank you.
>> All right, Brownie. I'm sorry.
[57:11] » On him. I didn't know he was coming, but
he's a great guy.
[57:14] » Good deal. I see that coming in.
>> The only issue I got ain't going to take
[57:19] long. One question I got is uh who who's
takes care of the city artist? who takes
[57:27] you. I mean, you guys, how do you not
take care of I can write a warning and
[57:33] everything and tell them, you know,
first statue, but the way the laws have
[57:37] changed, code enforcement is nothing. I
mean,
[57:41] » so we ain't got no code enforcement
actually
[57:46] enforcer, but I mean, we have those
ordinance prior to that to say if you
[57:50] don't do this and we clean it up,
>> you know, or mess or things like that,
[57:54] then you're liable. the law statute wise
we can't force you know DPS laws like
[58:01] murder or anything like that you know
what I'm saying so there's just a fine
[58:05] line cuz there's
>> there was an article years ago about
[58:08] that and there was a threshold gray area
and somebody shot somebody and it just a
[58:14] nightmare so
>> this had nothing to do
[58:17] » providing some city artists that need to
be taken care of the
[58:20] » first issue is is that the he's putting
this junkyard here within 50 ft from the
[58:27] city hall here.
>> I just don't know how the bride build
[58:31] here owns that got all these
>> cats coming in junk coming in you know
[58:37] it looks like a junky that's moving in
>> they know how to I don't know how you're
[58:41] going to force that if I know a lot of
city artists they can put up a 12t
[58:46] privacy fence to cover all their junk or
they
[58:50] » have it moved at their expense. And it
should be well I told him well he had a
[58:56] survey he lost 20 ft of his building. So
there was another issue office take 10
[59:02] off that he lost that and him and Ronnie
got into it over there where parking
[59:10] looks like a junkyard. I mean it does
>> makes the city hall look
[59:13] » I don't Is he even a business like a
machine shop or anything? I don't
[59:18] » I see just junk store over there. We got
trusses over there, old bulldozers,
[59:24] uh, cab of pickups, cab of truck beds,
equipment. I mean,
[59:29] » yeah, I know he's not the only one. I
mean, even across from you,
[59:32] » right? On the issue here.
>> No. Yeah, there's many issues like that.
[59:38] There's a you got to petition the court
and it's got to go up to OSCA and all
[59:45] that and see if you can enforce certain
things with code enforcement that law
[59:51] enforcement can or the prosecutor can
prosecute on.
[59:54] » Does that make sense?
>> I'm sure he's got permits on all their
[59:57] vehicles and tags and all that too. You
know, I'm sure he's
[1:00:01] » I don't know. Well, I know it was one of
them's I haven't been over there to
[1:00:04] look, but I've been pulled 20 ways from
Sunday.
[1:00:08] » I don't I keep up with
>> So, I hardly see him. I see him when the
[1:00:13] time I get back. He's jetted or he's
hiding in that building. So,
[1:00:18] » Right. Right. Yeah.
>> Nobody take his junk out of there. Well,
[1:00:23] I don't even talking to him just not
very personable
[1:00:30] evening or DS. He's not at all cuz I
don't know what his I can't remember his
[1:00:36] name, but he'll come to me later, but I
can look it up on property.
[1:00:40] » That's what I want to do is address the
board with it.
[1:00:43] » Yeah, that's fine.
>> You know, if you guys can send them a
[1:00:45] letter, maybe state paint it up, move
it, or
[1:00:49] » there's been complaints about it.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Looks bad. looks bad for the
[1:00:52] shoot. I mean, there's a lot of places
that need to be cleaned up. I understand
[1:00:56] complaint is a good work with concerns
about bring
[1:01:00] it's unprofessional. I mean, it's
unacceptable.
[1:01:02] » It's a complaint. I mean, it's a viable
complaint. It's a citizen right file
[1:01:08] complaint. It's like a victim has a
right to file a complaint. So,
[1:01:13] complaints not a bad word.
>> I mean, it's it's a concern. And yeah, I
[1:01:18] see both.
>> Yeah. Yeah. just the city. Okay.
[1:01:21] » I think the uh thing is we can do that.
We can say that we had
[1:01:27] not not the citizen of the of the city
complaints about that
[1:01:32] cleaned up.
>> You know, we're trying to city here turn
[1:01:36] into a junkyard notice of town. A lot of
these people are bringing in these old
[1:01:41] cars and junk and they're parking them
out in the streets and park them on the
[1:01:45] roads. I mean I I mean I drive by every
day and I see citations can be written
[1:01:50] every day or at least warranty tell move
the vehicle send
[1:01:55] » we don't have the income either for even
part time nowadays nobody's going to
[1:01:59] chase that money they chase the money
you know that
[1:02:02] » oh yeah
>> and there was an organization that quit
[1:02:05] doing donations I'm not even going to
name so I'm not going to get into that
[1:02:09] so that put a dent in that help too so
but so we had to go a different route So
[1:02:15] » we got city ordinances that covers it.
We enforce the city ordinance. We can
[1:02:20] cover it.
>> As long you have to have the peace
[1:02:22] officer license of them because they're
state laws or they're
[1:02:27] » Yeah, I understand that.
You know, the city doesn't need a
[1:02:31] fulltime peace officer. I understand
that.
[1:02:32] » No,
>> we need to go back like the old days,
[1:02:35] get back to where we've got our own city
marshal
[1:02:39] forcing forcing the city ordinance not
to go running bad guys down the street.
[1:02:43] Well, then you get charged with
failure to act. That's the rule. Such
[1:02:47] that that's state statute because the
marshals is why there's no marshalss
[1:02:49] anymore constables because they weren't
doing their damn job and that's what
[1:02:53] happened.
>> Okay. City enforcement. City.
[1:02:56] » They have code enforcement. That's what
it's called. I'm just saying because
[1:02:59] it's changed over years. It's evolved.
>> We all everything evolved over time.
[1:03:05] » Well, we don't need a chief of police or
no deputy working in town here.
[1:03:09] » I mean, being spent for nothing. Well,
you know how it was.
[1:03:13] » Well, I got rid of bills. I'm not even
going to go into that cuz my lawyer can
[1:03:17] speak on that point, but I'm not even
going to get into that mess. So, go
[1:03:22] ahead, Mr.
We had several complaints. I know
[1:03:27] several complaints about
we can look at the ordinance.
[1:03:33] We can direct the mayor say it. We can
draft up an orance and present it
[1:03:41] to that person asking for relief.
>> That's all we have to do.
[1:03:56] » Let me finish this.
No one's
[1:04:00] » there. No sense in us getting in a tizzy
over that
[1:04:05] » without talking about all of us.
>> We got to make sure we get it right.
[1:04:12] You remember right? So it's presented
correctly so we can get the person to do
[1:04:19] what three of you have already
suggested. Maybe it may be and we might
[1:04:27] have to do a little
work with you.
[1:04:32] » Yeah, I got a problem. I see that
>> there's so many
[1:04:39] I wanted to
just
[1:04:45] say
>> there's a lot of things we could
[1:04:48] complain about in this town. Like a
bubble home that's down there on
[1:04:51] Cemetery Road and stuff. There's just so
many of those things that he's talking
[1:04:54] about drafting a a ordinance, but we do
have specific ordinances about high
[1:04:58] grass or whatever it is. But maybe we
should have an ordinance that addresses
[1:05:02] these really later issues of some real
big abuse. Uh and and complaints about
[1:05:08] this type of stuff, you know? I mean,
there's several things that we could
[1:05:12] address with one ordinance. You know
what I mean? Yeah, more detail about
[1:05:20] bring it up to speed up a new ordinance
that says okay guys
[1:05:26] ordinance 939 is petty offenses. So
petty offenses are like grass
[1:05:30] infractions. So that'd be your
ordinances. So that's been consolidated
[1:05:34] already. So your foundation set
>> right there. It's just how to go about
[1:05:39] it with state legislator and the red
tape so you don't violate it. Nobody
[1:05:44] violates it. nobody gets in trouble
because that's the last thing anybody
[1:05:47] wants is fined or taking upon themselves
to be wired around here because that's
[1:05:53] the problem most have that's what they
have and I mean and if you turn the
[1:05:57] other way as a cop get charged now
failure act is a crime you know and it's
[1:06:03] it's just that's a society we live in
stigma and it sucks it really does you
[1:06:07] know that I mean I wish there was a
marshall I wish they kept that
[1:06:11] » I think we know the truth
>> you They said these reinforcement cities
[1:06:16] they're just letting them come in and
throw junk vehicles all around bringing
[1:06:21] in
those weeds growing up past the mill
[1:06:26] line just growing up running through the
roadways. That's the second issue I got
[1:06:31] the second
[1:06:35] I talked about talked to you about here
about four or five months ago
[1:06:39] » about a driveway there at Rustler's
driveway. Well, it's all growing up with
[1:06:42] trees and weeds. And it's running down.
Well, the ditch is not catching it. It's
[1:06:47] coming out on the road. It's washing
down the road, washing out Ed's driveway
[1:06:52] and washing over and d and it's washing
out my ditch line to my driveway. It's
[1:06:57] not going through the ditch. It's going
around it and worsening it out.
[1:07:01] » Matter of fact, it's eating underneath
the road. I just took a picture just to
[1:07:04] show you. You got it. I can
[1:07:10] » see we can get that state representative
involving in there too
[1:07:15] and it's running around the edge of the
road.
[1:07:32] We need
[1:07:37] I understand
[1:07:44] there is a state
[1:08:03] something like
[1:08:13] They pay taxes
[1:08:17] on their own.
>> That's new.
[1:08:22] Joker did so across from here as a hub
cuz when
[1:08:29] D found a hub or AT&T I think the talk
was caught because it passed over the
[1:08:35] gold copper the phone lines
>> under there supposed to be ripping our
[1:08:40] discont
[1:08:46] there's a triangle when they mark that
it's a high risk there two foot there's
[1:08:51] one at three and a half. You were taking
that.
[1:08:54] » So, it was such a high risk that I was
going to have to keep going down that
[1:08:58] hill.
>> That would be the place to go, but it's
[1:09:00] running off that hill, running straight
down the road, missing the dig line all
[1:09:04] together.
>> So, missing this old gate.
[1:09:06] » Yeah,
that ain't even got up to it. They got
[1:09:10] it cut off right there at the end of the
road.
[1:09:12] » So, it's all running out.
>> Okay. This outlet,
[1:09:19] » huh? Let me check and see if still
there.
[1:09:23] » Yeah.
>> Okay.
[1:09:33] » Without
[1:09:37] clear trees back out where they grown
up. They grown out about that big and
[1:09:41] they grew up. They just clear the trees
all the way and put rock coming down
[1:09:45] that hill there.
>> Take care of the issue, you know. You
[1:09:48] talking about Bruce was right here. That
spruce tree split
[1:09:51] » right there at the spruce and there's
Russell's driveway.
[1:09:54] » Yeah.
>> Well, doc had a tree just to fall down
[1:09:57] and knock that power line that runs
across there and knock it down and rust
[1:10:00] the driveway. So, he took the logs and
wood and just shoved it off the ditch
[1:10:04] here. So, I choked up the ditch even
more.
[1:10:07] » Oh, this there's a ditch in here,
>> right? That's a ditch down
[1:10:11] for years. If I go clean that up with my
activator and all that and redish and
[1:10:17] grub that wouldn't drain better.
>> Oh yeah. Yeah. That's what that's all
[1:10:20] I'm
just
[1:10:24] » It ain't going in the ditch. It's going
down the road behind that burn it and
[1:10:29] turn it
>> right.
[1:10:30] » Would that work right there?
>> It may work, may not. We don't know.
[1:10:35] Just slow it down. Right. It's going to
help a lot.
[1:10:39] » Let me call Dra and see what's under
there before I start because I know up
[1:10:43] above there's a podium and
>> that ditch that I'm show you. It's
[1:10:47] already going underneath the
>> Yeah, it is under warranty. You're
[1:10:53] talking about over.
>> Yeah, heard my driveway.
[1:10:56] » Oh, yeah.
I'm sorry.
[1:11:01] » Your phone's on different mine.
[1:11:07] right there. See you.
>> Okay.
[1:11:09] » You can see where it's going. It's
coming in behind my driveway.
[1:11:14] » It's hit what it's doing over and hit
those driveway
[1:11:19] out. It's coming across the road. Coming
in. You see where it's eating underneath
[1:11:23] the
>> Yeah. There.
[1:11:24] » But don't get take care. It's going to
keep
[1:11:26] » underneath the road. So, I have a look
at that cuz I can see the alligator in
[1:11:32] the patch. Is that a patch or is that
just the sun right there?
[1:11:35] » Yeah, that's just sun right there.
>> Does alligator stop there? Alligator?
[1:11:39] » No, that's an old shirt on. He used to
come through there going up to Ry's.
[1:11:43] » Oh, okay.
>> Is that Ry's old truck on top of it or
[1:11:47] your
>> That's Ry's.
[1:11:49] » Randy still has all that.
>> I didn't know he could be. That's a good
[1:11:53] truck.
>> Yeah, it is. That's good. I know it's
[1:11:56] it's it's an eye story right now, but it
could be revenge money cuz
[1:12:02] he's got another one.
>> Let me see.
[1:12:06] » Let me see if I can get
[1:12:16] » appreciate that. Thank you guys.
I mean, as long as we work together
[1:12:21] instead of against each other, it really
does.
[1:12:24] It's all we asked for. You know,
>> something we're never going to
[1:12:28] accomplish. Some we never do.
>> You have you have an issue with it. You
[1:12:32] just bring it to us and try to work
through it.
[1:12:37] » So, but I always stepped a little toes
and I don't want to be in trouble.
[1:12:40] » Sometimes it may not work. If you do it,
it may not work. You never know. I mean
[1:12:44] there's times you it's
>> and that where that collet is we're
[1:12:48] going to need some more rock put in
there that cover where they put in that
[1:12:53] cover that they read this asphalt.
>> It's going to need more rock in that
[1:12:57] ditch line. It's all sunk in that
telephone is still around.
[1:13:02] » They they owe us 32. So I'm
guess
[1:13:09] that what it is to four.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
[1:13:12] cuz I know you work at the
[1:13:20] » Okay.
>> Okay. Thanks a lot.
[1:13:23] » See you guys.
>> See you. Have a safe night.
[1:13:26] » Have a good one, guys.
>> See you.
[1:13:43] reaction. Are you just here?
[1:13:48] » I don't know if you want to try
[1:13:53] » finish business.
[1:14:06] » Oh, I'm sorry.
You want this? talking about update
[1:14:11] city.
>> Yes.
[1:14:17] » We talked about changing to another
one that focus more on clerical and
[1:14:23] office management and uh we did that and
I think I let everybody know that we we
[1:14:29] contacted express employment. I talked
with their employees plus a regional
[1:14:33] manager. uh the manager uh listened to
what we had to say as far as the skills
[1:14:39] to utilize you for the position. And
then we had made number one being
[1:14:44] QuickBooks. Although we know a lot of
different offices run different ways, we
[1:14:47] want somebody with experience in the
QuickBook area. But we went over
[1:14:50] accounts payable and receivable and
positions required uh to familiarize
[1:14:54] them with sunshine laws and regulations
and budgeting and banking. I we really
[1:14:59] went through the details with them over
the phone before sending them the uh our
[1:15:04] our approved list of qualifications and
they ran those numbers and uh got back
[1:15:10] with us and they have two candidates
that they feel that they're ready to
[1:15:14] send here uh for us to interview. Uh the
difference between uh express employment
[1:15:20] uh and our previous employer is the
search person search company is that um
[1:15:27] they don't place anybody full-time more
than 90 days. That person's placed
[1:15:32] receive us a fit. They're temporary.
That 90 after the 90 days is over with.
[1:15:36] If we feel like we want to offer them a
position after the 90 days, we're able
[1:15:39] to do that. Otherwise, they will take
that person out and put someone else in.
[1:15:43] But still we have the interview process
ahead of that. So we can choose that
[1:15:48] person and uh so uh and also what's
different with this agency is there's no
[1:15:55] upfront deposit like we had before which
was quite extensive amount of big amount
[1:16:00] of money and regardless if we hired them
or not um if they failed in their duties
[1:16:06] or we had to replace them we had to pay
another fee you know to get uh other
[1:16:10] employees. this you kind of pay as you
go, but in the end the fee can be as
[1:16:14] high as our last employment agency. I
sent out to everybody on uh their emails
[1:16:22] um and if you haven't received I'll send
it again cuz I understand some people
[1:16:25] didn't get it. Um what they had to what
they had to say about it. Um but
[1:16:34] the child care is 90 days temporary
positions but the people are qualified
[1:16:39] uh office managers uh you know clerical
managers and they have uh you know clerk
[1:16:46] experiences or qualifications but this
is the last um I told them that I would
[1:16:50] be meeting with the board tonight and
that I would uh bring this back to
[1:16:54] everyone's attention and they sent me
this message real quick see if I here Uh
[1:17:00] I asked them to put in a nutshell what
it is exactly that they do and they said
[1:17:04] uh they want to follow up with us with
condensed uh information provided that
[1:17:09] express employment professionals
provides temporary evaluation
[1:17:17] hire and direct hire staffing solutions
for professional administrative and
[1:17:22] commercial positions. We uh connect
businesses with qualified candidates,
[1:17:26] helping reduce hiring times, over uh
turnover, and staffing cost while
[1:17:31] meeting their work force needs. So, what
they're saying is that they're handling
[1:17:36] all the pre-in handling all the
pre-qualifications like before, but
[1:17:39] we've set it up through the mirror for
the like we did last time interview
[1:17:42] process. The board of course would do
the interviewing like we did last time,
[1:17:46] which was pretty successful, and uh we
would pick that candidate. Whatever we
[1:17:50] pay the candidate uh is up to us. Uh but
they will add a fee on top of that
[1:17:57] hourly wage. So this is just an example.
You know, if we paid somebody $10 an
[1:18:01] hour, they may charge us $15 an hour to
have that employee for the 90 days.
[1:18:06] After the 90 days, we can offer that
same amount of money we're paying them
[1:18:10] or set them into a a salary that suits
our budget. And uh but it does give us
[1:18:16] an opportunity to see the fit.
>> Yeah, it does.
[1:18:19] So, but anytime we're working with these
people, I got to tell you, is expensive.
[1:18:23] And the mayor set aside money in the
last last time we talked about I don't
[1:18:28] know if we still have that money or not
for the we didn't ever spend it uh uh
[1:18:34] for the last uh
organization we worked through, but uh
[1:18:39] if we still have that type of funding,
we can move with this. But I would like
[1:18:44] for them to come in and talk with us u
in a more finite way about how we get
[1:18:48] our arms around um the cost involved.
You know, because I don't think I'm
[1:18:54] qualified, you know, I could pass along
what they tell me, but I think it might
[1:18:57] be better for us to talk directly to a
regional person with express before we
[1:19:02] get into a contract that we may not
understand.
[1:19:04] » Yeah.
>> And when I read their contract, it's
[1:19:07] mindbggling, you know.
And uh so I told him, I said, "Look, I
[1:19:12] don't want to take that contract to the
board. I want you to summarize what what
[1:19:15] you're doing." She said, "Well,
basically, we're a placement agency.
[1:19:18] We're going to find someone that
qualifies to your standards. We're going
[1:19:21] to do the process and we're going to
send them to you, let you pick them out.
[1:19:24] We're going to let you hire them on a
temporary basis for 90 days, and we're
[1:19:27] going to charge you x amount more than
what you're paying them an hour to have
[1:19:32] them for 90 days. Sounds pretty fair,
but uh but that remains to be seen. you
[1:19:38] know, if we can afford it. I mean, if
we're paying somebody uh $20 an hour and
[1:19:42] their fee is to put $10 more dollars on
that, that's $30 an hour and next thing
[1:19:46] you know, we're spending almost $300 a
day for a 10-hour employee. You know,
[1:19:52] » employees at
>> Exactly. So, um
[1:19:55] » two and a half.
>> So, here's what I'd like to see us do,
[1:19:58] if y'all don't mind. I'd like to send
out that contract again to all of you
[1:20:02] guys, let you read the detail involved
and if you have any questions about
[1:20:07] that, you can call them directly or you
can address that question to me and let
[1:20:11] me be the one to funnels the question to
them. They'll be your contact for them
[1:20:14] and I'll get back and answer each one of
your questions [snorts] and I'll send
[1:20:18] that out to you tonight.
>> All right, that's it from me, Mr. Mayor.
[1:20:23] » All right. That would be very
>> Does anybody have any questions?
[1:20:30] » I just think it'd be nice he started
this process. He has a really good feel
[1:20:35] on it. Let him continue. We have
questions with Senator Bryant and let
[1:20:40] him hold the questions.
>> Yeah,
[1:20:44] » it's extensive. I read it and it's it's
pretty
[1:20:49] » and it keeps you moving stuff.
All right. So, we good on that? So, all
[1:20:56] right. Second B, status on the park
project and location and setting up a
[1:21:02] meeting with the other vendor and
options.
[1:21:06] Doc, you're kind of involved in that
logistics.
[1:21:10] » Uh, can you hear me?
>> Yeah, I can hear you.
[1:21:13] » Yep.
>> All right. So, I've had uh I mean I had
[1:21:18] a brief discussion with Brian over the
prior at the beginning of the weekend
[1:21:23] about uh coming in and selecting some
more equipment and I I had a secondary
[1:21:28] meeting with um Melvin regarding the
same issues [clears throat] we are the
[1:21:37] site location is selected it's on the
wall at port uh roughly and the uh city
[1:21:46] plats are underneath there from St. John
that uh give the specific location with
[1:21:52] the [clears throat] property locations.
Uh and to summarize
[1:22:00] uh there's three issues. One of them,
well kind of there's probably more, but
[1:22:06] one of them is uh I took down with uh
Eric and
[1:22:14] uh Charlie and Frankie. The um uh former
playground and it's now located
[1:22:24] uh the roof section was in the driveway
in front of city hall that needs a
[1:22:28] little work done on it. the metal
components, the smaller ones are in the
[1:22:33] the uh water former water treatment
plant next to city hall. And then
[1:22:38] there's some uh items parked on Third
Street. Uh so we're all down. Everything
[1:22:46] got disassembled nicely without hard
with hardly any damage. The next steps
[1:22:52] on that is to clean it and paint it uh
so that it's ready to install. Then uh
[1:22:59] while that's going on, then the site
prep needs to be done down in that field
[1:23:05] to stake it uh with the transit, you
know, to locate some stuff to locate
[1:23:11] things. Well, we're going to have a
playground with one swing set is what we
[1:23:16] got. Had two toddler seats on it. We're
going to need to purchase another their
[1:23:21] swing set and one of those coil spring
things that wiggles back and forth with
[1:23:25] my kids cuz they like that so much. And
we're going to have a smalls size soccer
[1:23:30] field because that requires minimal
outlays other than goalposts
[1:23:36] uh so that uh kids can practice there.
It won't be full size for adults, but
[1:23:42] for kids it'll be just fine. And other
municipalities maybe come out and
[1:23:47] utilize it because people are always
looking for fields. We know in Pigville
[1:23:52] they have a monster soccer field there
and it's heavily utilized. We're not
[1:23:56] going to have that in our fair city, but
we'll have something to use that'll uh
[1:24:02] mesh with some of the other things.
>> Then, uh the park district in Arnold
[1:24:07] also gave us a couple park benches. So,
uh, the intention is to we'll have a
[1:24:14] small parking space next to the gravel
road off of Highway 61 and we'll put
[1:24:20] some benches there and do some tree
plantings
[1:24:24] coming up in the fall
next month, two months. We have some
[1:24:30] larger cypus trees now that Adam has
that heavier equipment that can be dug
[1:24:35] out and transplanted in a couple spots
just to give quick shade. And then on
[1:24:40] the other area off of Fourth Street,
there'll be another entry that'll be a
[1:24:44] walk-in off of Fourth Street. It's
slightly sloped to ready. And I've
[1:24:49] spoken with Adam about uh building that
up a little bit more. So, it's a gradual
[1:24:54] slope and it can be accessed easily for
equipment to come in and mow. And I have
[1:24:59] some uh Lombardi
poppplers,
[1:25:04] which are tall, skinny, very fast
growing trees. that uh we'll bracket
[1:25:11] that entry, you know, like two archways
so that uh that you'll know where it is
[1:25:18] and you know, it'll just be like three
small trees on each side uh to frame it
[1:25:24] a little bit. And uh and then the uh
Arnold's people gave us a book with uh
[1:25:32] another vendor who they've worked with.
prices are probably going to be in the
[1:25:37] same ballpark, but we can
we need to get with them as well because
[1:25:43] I think they're more local or in
Chesterfield. Uh and uh and then kind of
[1:25:48] button things up to have some things
installed. Our as we mentioned at prior
[1:25:53] meetings, the bids and estimates that we
got uh from the concern in Firmington
[1:26:00] was way over budget and uh a lot of it
was you know uh rubber mulch and labor
[1:26:08] and stuff like that which drove up the
price to be uh more than twice what we
[1:26:15] have allotted for the project. We're
going to need to use some of the money
[1:26:19] for that project for excavation for
concrete. We're doing some drilling with
[1:26:25] a post hole auger or something to put to
make post. There's probably about 12
[1:26:30] holes that get uh excuse me, probably
about 16 holes that get dug in the
[1:26:35] ground that uh a little, you know, once
the metal components are placed on
[1:26:41] gravel and leveled, then we'll fill it
in with some concrete so that it's
[1:26:46] stable. There's uh one piece under the
central pillar of concrete that's
[1:26:52] probably going to take 3/4 of a yard of
concrete. And I don't know what concert
[1:26:57] is these days, but it's probably about
$200 a yard. I would imagine it
[1:27:01] » is 169. Yeah.
>> But
[1:27:05] » it it's right now 160. I checked on it
yesterday.
[1:27:10] » Yeah. Okay. So, uh and then my and then
they, you know, if it's less than a
[1:27:17] certain amount, then they charge
delivery fees. So, it probably ends up
[1:27:21] being about $200 a yard. And I would
estimate that we need probably two
[1:27:27] yards, two and a half at the most to uh
to seat everything, including the park
[1:27:34] bench seats. Those are just little
little things. And we're going to need
[1:27:38] the manpower there. to do that. We might
have to hire we've got some other people
[1:27:44] that are concreers or something that uh
do things quickly uh instead of uh
[1:27:50] utilizing our staff that is not
professionally trained in concrete
[1:27:56] placement or whatever. So, I know it's
not that complicated, but it has to be
[1:28:00] super level and there has to be on a
center pillar. There's probably about 8
[1:28:06] to 10 uh anchor bolts that need to be
placed in the concrete and it needs to
[1:28:10] be super level uh when it's done and
then it can be just dropped in and
[1:28:16] bolted in and assembled
and uh the assembly should be pretty
[1:28:21] straightforward. We did it.
You know, it's going to be easier to
[1:28:26] reassemble it than it was to disassemble
it because when you're disassembling,
[1:28:30] there's areas that are seized from
corrosion or whatever it requires
[1:28:35] [snorts]
spraying and wrenching and torque, you
[1:28:39] know, all this additional hardware to
bust things loose. In the assembly
[1:28:45] process, we'll order some new nuts and
bolts to make things go quickly and then
[1:28:50] use anti-sea
[1:28:59] or whatever. We'll have that uh the pots
playground with two swing sets, a soccer
[1:29:08] field, and a few park benches. Then over
on Third Street on the other end on the
[1:29:14] bend where that big walnut tree or pecan
tree is, I would like to purchase
[1:29:20] another set of swings over there.
There's kids that live on that end. And
[1:29:26] uh swinging is great. And uh and maybe
parallel bars that can be fabricated
[1:29:33] with some uh galvanized metal.
And uh that's
[1:29:41] I think we'll probably have
uh between 10 and 17,000 to spend with
[1:29:50] installation of new equipment ballpark
and uh the rest is going to be labor. We
[1:29:58] got to re uh cover our expenses for fuel
cost going up there and late.
[1:30:06] giver, you know, for a week of
employees, maybe I'll try to take the
[1:30:10] thing down. And I haven't looked at
Leslie will probably look at what the
[1:30:14] labor costs on that was for the
disassembly and uh and uh and then I'd
[1:30:23] like to move forward pretty quickly with
it, you know, so that by uh
[1:30:29] midepptember, by third week of
September, we have what we have
[1:30:32] installed.
And uh and uh the new stuff that we
[1:30:38] contract out should be installed by in
October, which will put us in under
[1:30:44] deadline.
I don't think we're going to have to buy
[1:30:47] a lot brand new. We should have enough.
It's just a few little things to uh
[1:30:56] » have a question for you.
>> Um are we still considering using the
[1:31:00] the equipment that we have down at the
old park put in over there?
[1:31:05] » Uh yeah. You know, uh, Rosa, I haven't
I haven't gone down there in a while to
[1:31:12] look at what's there, but we you and I
and Brian have discussed using that
[1:31:17] earlier. And uh I still Thanks for
mentioning that cuz I I didn't even
[1:31:24] consider that uh at this moment. Let's
think of the other. So, uh you there's
[1:31:32] some picnic benches down there and a uh
a shade structure or something, isn't
[1:31:38] there?
>> And what a swing set down there as well.
[1:31:42] » There's a swing set down there. And then
we have the hardware to make another uh
[1:31:46] teeter totter.
>> So, that's all there.
[1:31:49] » We would just have to make the board for
it.
[1:31:52] » All right. Yeah. And I know there's we
probably get by getting some of those
[1:31:57] pavilions taken apart too eventually,
maybe next year.
[1:32:00] » Yeah. I mean, since you live down there,
if you wouldn't mind taking some phone
[1:32:04] snapshots of that of them and sending it
to the group uh and I'll, you know, I'll
[1:32:10] put assemble uh I'll work that into the
whole thing.
[1:32:15] » Okay.
>> And I got a question for you. The
[1:32:19] comment question. The soccer field is a
great idea. Um, how do we know it's a
[1:32:23] soccer field going down there to play?
[1:32:28] » Uh,
and um, well, you can you can use lime.
[1:32:34] They used back in the old days, they use
lime in a uh, you know, to chalk out a a
[1:32:39] rectangle.
>> Yeah.
[1:32:40] » Uh, put a circle on it. And then uh,
then now they have these breaking
[1:32:46] ingredients that in there. So that maybe
require a little extra labor cuz you got
[1:32:51] to both mow and do that before a game.
But the posts the the goalposts
[1:32:57] themselves should identify it. You know,
it's pretty obvious to see them and it's
[1:33:02] not a huge field either. you know, it's
>> uh
[1:33:06] » uh so you know, with that and the post
maybe once a month or depends on the
[1:33:13] utilization of it, you know, like if
someone's going to use it and they call
[1:33:16] city hall and said, "We, you know, we'd
like to use it, then the city will,
[1:33:22] you know, prep the field uh or they can
uh with line, you know, put the lines in
[1:33:28] for it. It's not like a football field,
>> right? I was just thinking that um
[1:33:35] if I was a kid playing, I would know if
I was out of bounds
[1:33:38] or something like that. So, it's not
necessarily we have football markers.
[1:33:42] » When I was a kid, we didn't have lines.
We just had grass and
[1:33:46] » bases or something.
>> Yeah. And you had someone you put stuff
[1:33:51] down in the corners and then uh the raft
would call it.
[1:33:56] » Yeah.
>> But now there's lines. So,
[1:33:59] Yeah, I was thinking on the corners
there's these uh you can get these
[1:34:03] canvas bags that are filled with sand,
the corner bags and just to mark the
[1:34:07] corners so that you know you can eye you
can eyeball if you're out of line or not
[1:34:11] but just to give them some type of
structure because I think it's a great
[1:34:14] idea to have a soccer field and I think
a lot of kids play soccer you know if
[1:34:19] they have a field to play in but um if
we just better defined I think the
[1:34:23] boundary for them that might be cool.
Um, I understand you're going to have a
[1:34:28] go with the
>> what they call soccer.
[1:34:36] » I wasn't soccer player, but uh that's
that'll help find it too. So, and
[1:34:41] they're painted.
>> Yeah. And it's basically a practice
[1:34:45] pitch, you know, practice field. So, uh
unless, you know, they decide to have
[1:34:50] toddlers have, you know, their regular
games there. And in that scenario, you
[1:34:55] know, we can spray it, you know, spray
the lines.
[1:34:59] » Uh, and but for everyday use, I don't
think you really need it. You just need
[1:35:04] the vocals and, uh, uh, they, you know,
a five or six. If you watch those kids,
[1:35:13] they're just kind of running around with
little windup toys. Uh, anyway, you
[1:35:18] know,
>> uh, they don't really need the line.
[1:35:21] They just need to be running and
practicing their kicking and dribbling
[1:35:25] and stuff.
>> Yeah. Thank you.
[1:35:31] » I don't know. Jody Jo,
>> I I got it. Okay.
[1:35:36] » Well, she was holding it.
>> All right. Cool. All right. Moving on.
[1:35:41] Doc, that is
>> uh you know, as far as I know, but uh I
[1:35:46] have in that book that I gave you the
other day, the manual for the assembly
[1:35:50] of the new thing. It's got the manual
for the assembly of all kinds of toys in
[1:35:54] there. And in front of it, there's a
number.
[1:35:59] That's
>> Yeah, just pass that down. The
[1:36:04] blueprints in the installation manual.
>> Yeah, I can call
[1:36:10] that should be free tomorrow morning to
do that.
[1:36:15] » All right. Is that it on that?
>> Uh, yeah. other than uh you know all
[1:36:22] hands on deck on getting it done quickly
uh so that
[1:36:28] time tick tock on this it's gone on
pretty long as it is and uh now we got
[1:36:34] to get moving with all
[1:36:40] construction targets with Doc when you
come back in town because I'd like to
[1:36:44] get with you to go down there.
>> Yeah. Okay. No problem.
[1:36:51] I'll be back uh by I got to return my
rental card next Friday. So, I'll be
[1:36:57] back by Friday.
>> Next Friday.
[1:37:01] » Yeah.
>> Okay.
[1:37:05] » All right. Moving on.
[1:37:11] » What are we doing on that?
>> I'm still looking for all the stuff that
[1:37:15] they finished. How many?
[1:37:21] » 14.
[1:37:27] You got anything to add to that? Down
here during that audit.
[1:37:35] There's been so much stuff.
>> The audit. You me and you were both down
[1:37:38] here helping her finding certain things
that they needed.
[1:37:42] » So
I can refresh my memory. refresh your
[1:37:46] memory things on
>> like some of the
[1:37:53] receipts and all that looking for.
>> I know they reported that we need to
[1:37:58] change the password
which again has been something I was
[1:38:03] afraid to do and that's what I told
them. But
[1:38:05] » we're getting ready to change that. We
updated system.
[1:38:09] Um
what else did they tell us?
[1:38:14] Everything needs to be more
>> detailed in QuickBooks instead of just
[1:38:21] transferring. It needs to be transferred
from this to a
[1:38:26] » for this reason.
>> Yeah,
[1:38:29] » we like to do that.
>> Yeah,
[1:38:35] » but you know I want to call that a path.
Not a path. It's a trail I guess what
[1:38:41] you call it. when you it's like you're
showing where you're taking where you
[1:38:44] took the money from and where you're
putting it and where it's going. Right
[1:38:47] now, we're just not doing that. We we
taken it out. I'm putting it there.
[1:38:51] » It's Well, it's not that it's not
there's not a drill. It's the codes are
[1:38:56] not detailed enough. I always put a memo
as to why
[1:39:00] » it's the coding that they need more
detail with.
[1:39:03] » Well, why don't we try to take a look at
it before you and I take a look. Okay.
[1:39:09] » Could be great. Yeah, we'll look at the
coding.
[1:39:12] » Okay, there's a lot of coding. They're
same numbers and they got.128.
[1:39:17] You know that
>> it's just over the years we've added so
[1:39:21] much to it. We haven't taken some out.
What do you think?
[1:39:29] » Show me what you
[1:39:38] » All right. the budget status on
consolidating and consolidating
[1:39:43] QuickBooks which we just discussed with
Brian with that pathway. So
[1:39:49] supposed to help clean it up also.
>> Okay.
[1:39:52] » I don't
know her name or
[1:39:56] I have to get it again.
[1:40:02] » She has Mary has information I can get
from her.
[1:40:05] » Okay.
>> But her name number and all that
[1:40:08] » Yeah. see if she can clean her up.
>> Yeah, cuz it's
[1:40:13] » it's a crapshoot.
>> Yeah. Um we're still working on the
[1:40:17] budget. Quick books went down.
It just wouldn't open. Um we were lucky
[1:40:24] to even have it reconciled.
>> Yeah.
[1:40:26] » Because it's just overloaded. It's It's
just at its max.
[1:40:30] » Yeah. And
so I do have to update with that last
[1:40:39] Monday.
>> Are you QuickBooks desktop version or
[1:40:42] online?
>> The desktop.
[1:40:45] » Don't switch.
>> I'm I'm not. Yeah, this was just a
[1:40:48] update to the desktop.
>> Okay. I was going to say don't go don't
[1:40:52] go. From what I hear from the clerks
that I found the online version,
[1:40:57] » they wish they'd never done it. So
>> they were trying to call me and try and
[1:41:02] talk me into that.
>> Yeah, I've heard that that is not a good
[1:41:05] idea. Talked to Darla about that in more
detail, but um at the clerk's conference
[1:41:12] this summer,
a lot of them have issues with online.
[1:41:17] » What do you think, Mary about cleaning
up like we just talked about, but that
[1:41:22] there's there's a lot of dead space in
there.
[1:41:26] » So I am not the QuickBooks expert.
Um, but listening to conversations that
[1:41:32] happen around me and having talked to
the lady that QuickBooks, uh, we
[1:41:38] actually did a QuickBooks training at
our, um, Clark's conference this summer.
[1:41:44] So, um,
sometimes I think it's easier if you're
[1:41:52] doing desktop, I think you can create
another company and set it up, right?
[1:41:58] And then instead of trying to go back
and undo or redo things that were not
[1:42:05] done properly,
>> I just fixed up.
[1:42:08] » Yeah. So that's that's why I really want
somebody to come in and look at what you
[1:42:12] have and figure out what's going on and
then
[1:42:16] » figure out what the best path is
forward.
[1:42:19] » I think you're right about setting up a
new company. You know, you don't have to
[1:42:22] fool with anything but brand new and it
was coated within there. And after
[1:42:27] you're finished, you wipe that other
out.
[1:42:29] » No, you don't wipe it out. You don't
deal with it anymore,
[1:42:33] » right?
>> You need to keep your financial records,
[1:42:37] » right? I mean,
>> yeah,
[1:42:38] » you don't
>> you close the you close that fiscal
[1:42:41] year.
>> You just set it to the side
[1:42:46] » and it won't wipe out anyway.
>> That's a good thing.
[1:42:51] » Anyway, we just once we take out of that
build a new new system, we don't have to
[1:42:57] go back in there again.
>> Yeah. We just set it to the side.
[1:43:01] » I guess it could get in there set it to
the side or something, but
[1:43:04] » Well, yeah. especially with the because
the audit that they're doing right now
[1:43:08] is not for the the [clears throat]
fiscal year you're currently in. So, you
[1:43:12] will still need that data and everything
for your auditors to come in and audit
[1:43:17] this time.
>> That could be there. That's always
[1:43:20] there.
>> Yeah. Just one other question since
[1:43:23] you're talking about this. So, this
person that you do you have someone that
[1:43:26] works with us directly about QuickBooks?
Yeah,
[1:43:30] » it's a it's a lady that um does I was
hoping I could find her. Yep. Kelly
[1:43:37] Dwire Der
and um
[1:43:42] yeah, she she works for a number of
communities. she actually does their
[1:43:46] bookkeeping for them. But, um, I asked
her if she would come in and and help
[1:43:50] you guys get straightened out because
they've been, you know, multiple clerks
[1:43:54] and
>> and everything is everybody's done
[1:43:57] things differently and sometimes not
well. So, um, she said that she would be
[1:44:03] willing to come down, take a look at it,
see what she can do,
[1:44:06] » especially the duplication of things.
That's the confusing.
[1:44:09] » Yeah. So, uh, but don't do anything,
Leslie, until we talk with Kelly.
[1:44:17] » I'm not messing with nothing.
>> I'm too afraid I'm going to screw up. I
[1:44:21] just do what I know and I leave it
alone. That's
[1:44:27] you know,
>> I mean, it takes 5 minutes sometimes
[1:44:31] just get the companies open up. They're
just so bogged down.
[1:44:34] » Yeah. And I think, you know, setting up
um some custom reports that you guys can
[1:44:40] use to figure out where you are in your
budget, what your revenues are, you
[1:44:45] know, that kind of reporting I think
would be very um good to have for the
[1:44:50] council going forward.
[1:44:55] » So, are books up now and running? How's
that?
[1:44:59] » Well, they kicking me off that night.
When Cody came down and it went on
[1:45:04] download, it kept just saying
uh some error code and it just said it
[1:45:10] needed to reboot, reboot, reboot.
Finally, internet took after, you know,
[1:45:14] everything's kind of I don't know what
internet
[1:45:20] or an external antenn.
[1:45:27] And then how's it been working?
I mean it works like it normally does
[1:45:32] take him 10 days to load. Otherwise
I mean I can brew a whole pot of coffee
[1:45:40] from start to finish before the page
load up. Otherwise it runs just fine
[1:45:44] once I can get into it.
>> Okay. I haven't been in that in a long
[1:45:49] time. I'd like to go back in there with
you just to see what it's about. Okay.
[1:45:54] And then I still think we're going to
need Kelly's assistance. holy.
[1:45:59] » Yeah,
>> I don't know enough about it to to
[1:46:02] present
>> and I'm going to be a little obsolete
[1:46:05] about some things too. It's been so long
that I understand it and uh but I do
[1:46:10] understand a lot has to do with
duplication
[1:46:13] said they couldn't find where to put it.
They just created count. Yeah, it was
[1:46:17] 0.1. I seen I think one of them had zero
in it and 10 lines and nothing that I
[1:46:23] can't believe.
>> I just like it was the code in the.16
[1:46:29] like this whole three sections of
information.
[1:46:33] » It's a numbers notable order or
anything.
[1:46:36] » I think we put a few extra eyes on it.
We can figure something out.
[1:46:40] » Yeah.
>> Okay. Thank you. All right.
[1:46:44] Mary, anything else?
Anybody else?
[1:46:48] » I just sent you and Lesie to her card.
>> Okay.
[1:46:53] So, this the same card I had before.
[1:46:57] » Yeah.
>> You just have to carefully turn your
[1:47:00] phone.
>> Well, I do turn.
[1:47:04] » I got
down.
[1:47:08] » New business. Um,
we need to decide check in on how to be
[1:47:15] more proficient and clock in and clock
out process to keep track of the
[1:47:20] personnel and hours of work. Oh, with
open time clock like uh we currently
[1:47:26] have
um
[1:47:29] using a tablet that works centralized
clock in at city hall and it takes a
[1:47:35] picture so nobody else can clock in for
them.
[1:47:39] And that way we don't have all this gap
that's 52%.
[1:47:45] So we can actually get a
decent number in controllable hours.
[1:47:52] So
>> mayor, are you talking about a new
[1:47:56] system or the system?
>> The same system. It's just they would
[1:47:59] have to come here.
>> Yeah.
[1:48:01] » They use it at
>> up. We use open time clock also but we
[1:48:05] have a tablet or iPad that's on the wall
but we have to go in put our information
[1:48:11] in put where we're working in the like I
it's Mary cuz they all facilities
[1:48:18] » and before they will clock you in and
take the picture.
[1:48:20] » That sounds great. And it's the central
location where you have to
[1:48:24] » Yeah. It has to be right here not
outside of here. Now you can change jobs
[1:48:27] once that's integrated.
>> Yeah. But you cannot clock out unless
[1:48:32] you're at that main.
>> So it just basically just keeps track of
[1:48:39] just that whole day frame, not
individually like we're here at this
[1:48:44] time and we're here at this time. So
it's just an 8 hour.
[1:48:47] » No, it keeps track if they go in there.
>> They don't have the access to clock out
[1:48:53] anymore. It just says switch jobs
instead of
[1:48:55] » Oh, so they can still do that part.
Okay. Gota
[1:49:02] like so like Charlie goes to lunch on
occasion. I don't know if he's going to
[1:49:06] lunch
>> because he I mean he can clock in and
[1:49:09] out but I don't know that he's not
around and off the clock. So if I try to
[1:49:15] get a hold of him or Eric or whoever to
do something I know they came in and
[1:49:20] clocked out for lunch.
>> That would be a good picture if they
[1:49:24] came in and clocked out for that lunch
time.
[1:49:27] » Yeah. That way it takes a picture and
it's there. Nobody can do it for them.
[1:49:32] You biometric code or information,
however you want to do it. I know Doc
[1:49:37] donated one, but it's not doesn't work
with that system. And
[1:49:42] » it's like 15 years old now.
[laughter]
[1:49:45] » What?
>> Like 15 years old?
[1:49:47] » 15 years old now. Oh,
>> I mean those tablets are cheap.
[1:49:58] » They're getting cheaper.
>> They're getting super cheap. Yeah,
[1:50:02] » it's it's going to be an Android system
and you download the app and then it's
[1:50:06] on there. It's a geoence, so it has to
be here. So, they can't manipulate.
[1:50:11] It'll take that. Yeah, you can probably
switch jobs, but it'll show you set it
[1:50:16] their overage and alert for an overage
and then everything else from that
[1:50:22] » micro system.
>> So, does it have where if they can still
[1:50:27] do it on their phone, are we going to
have or is it capable of setting a
[1:50:32] perimeter like they cannot go outside,
you know, I don't know, 10 miles or
[1:50:37] whatever. I think there is
like there's prohibited places on
[1:50:43] geopens. I never did it that large. I
just did it like centralized location.
[1:50:50] Um but I can try to look into that. I'm
sure they do. I mean geopence is
[1:50:56] expandable. But I can do it from city
limit to city limit or whatever the
[1:51:02] board decides to do if they do decide to
go with this. If not, it's fine. I'm
[1:51:07] just trying to get more of that gap
press,
[1:51:13] » get more control over that. So we if
they're getting close, I can see she can
[1:51:19] see anybody can see that they're over or
I can also set it where it tells them
[1:51:24] they're they're not like on overtime
they break the clock in and rounds up,
[1:51:30] you know, all that stuff. insurance
phone is unable is not compatible with
[1:51:35] time clock. So she has to come in and
tell me her hours so she can come in and
[1:51:39] clock in and clock in to keep that
information online.
[1:51:45] » So yeah, her phone won't leave. It's
just one of the
[1:51:52] » Yeah, it's just call for question.
>> Yes, sir.
[1:51:56] » Call for the questions. Now it's time to
vote. Yes.
[1:51:59] » Oh, I I said you I thought you said I
have a question.
[1:52:02] » Well, there's too much discussion. We'll
be discussing all night.
[1:52:10] » Yeah.
[1:52:14] » So, it's called
>> motion.
[1:52:18] We look at the availability of different
types of equipment.
[1:52:22] » It's it's round between 100 and 15%.
>> Excuse me. [clears throat] Your question
[1:52:27] has been called. We can't discuss.
>> Excuse me. I'm the chair and I'm
[1:52:31] » It doesn't matter who you are, Mr.
Mayor. The question has been called.
[1:52:35] It's time to vote it up or down or table
it. We can come back at it. We can go
[1:52:43] and do it.
>> Then don't ask me about hours.
[1:52:47] » I'm just telling you what you
>> I'm just telling you. You called the
[1:52:50] point question. I'm asking you, Melvin.
How do we know how much it costs?
[1:52:57] What's that we need?
>> Well, we discussing this and we need to
[1:53:01] vote.
>> I know we need to vote tonight. New
[1:53:04] business is we're voting. There is a
need for the clock. We want to get one.
[1:53:07] » We need to find out how much it cost
>> and
[1:53:11] » or do we have to approve
motion is to move on that and revisit
[1:53:18] another time?
>> Yeah, we can call the question. So, just
[1:53:21] vote to table this time.
>> Yeah, we can table save all this time.
[1:53:26] So motion made by
seconded by Alvin Freley.
[1:53:33] » Oh, you flipped that. Okay. He can't He
can't make a motion on my motion.
[1:53:39] » You called a question for a vote. He
motioned.
[1:53:43] » He can't motion anything. We have to
vote on it.
[1:53:47] » We We have to vote either up or that.
>> How you going to vote on that? So you're
[1:53:52] the primary motion.
>> Yeah. Now would be a motion.
[1:53:56] » Okay. I'm sorry.
>> So you're making a motion to vote up or
[1:54:00] down.
>> Okay. Somebody please explain to me what
[1:54:05] the heck is going on. What are we
learning?
[1:54:09] » I mean learn something if I don't know
the questions
[1:54:13] » are answered. Big point of information.
>> We we kept just going around and around
[1:54:19] in a circle. I call for the person to
stop going around and around in a circle
[1:54:24] and vote it up or down if we want if
we're going to say yes or we're going to
[1:54:31] say no
>> to get this system.
[1:54:34] » Yeah.
>> Okay. But my thing is how why would I
[1:54:37] say yes or no? Because if I don't know
if this thing
[1:54:42] » we can tell.
>> Okay. That's what I want to find out.
[1:54:44] Okay.
>> Yeah. That's why we use the question to
[1:54:48] stop this.
You know, it's like a stalling
[1:54:52] technique. Stop there.
>> So, when it comes back, we redo it and
[1:54:55] we'll
be clear on what we need to do. We take
[1:54:59] it off the table, vote on it, up down,
>> am I be hindered to ask questions again,
[1:55:08] though? Any questions I might have got
about it? You would have you would have
[1:55:13] had time to research your question and
find out if there are any system that's
[1:55:22] okay. [clears throat]
[1:55:25] » I want to be able to break in one
question. I know we're in the middle of
[1:55:28] going up or down, but [clears throat]
what I think what I think I'm hearing is
[1:55:33] we want to do this. We got to vote
whether or not we want to do it or not.
[1:55:36] But the question was how much does it
cost before we vote up or down? Because
[1:55:40] it's No,
>> he cut it. He called that before that.
[1:55:45] So the point is just put both the table
it and bring it back up after.
[1:55:50] » Would you like me to explain this?
>> Yes.
[1:55:55] » I need to bring my
>> So calling the question under Robert's
[1:56:00] reserve order is a formal motion
officially called the previous question
[1:56:04] used to immediately stop debate and hold
a vote on the current topic. It does
[1:56:08] require a second. So once there is a
motion and a second, you end debate.
[1:56:17] The motion to end debate cannot be
discussed or debated.
[1:56:21] So then you call for a vote on ending
the discussion. What that does is
[1:56:29] it takes a twothirds vote. Debate stops
immediately and the group proceeds to
[1:56:33] vote on the main pending motion. If it
fails under twothirds approval,
[1:56:39] discussion on the original topic
continues.
[1:56:42] » Well, right
[1:56:48] now [laughter]
I want to move forward.
[1:56:52] So,
[clears throat]
[1:56:54] » so are you taking this?
[1:56:59] » I don't know.
>> He made the motion to
[1:57:04] » up or down vote.
>> Up or down?
[1:57:07] » And we'll just call it research. Okay.
Is that fine, Mr. Felix?
[1:57:13] Can we just call it a mo motion a point
of information to call a vote for point
[1:57:21] of
>> information?
[1:57:24] You either vote it out or you vote in
here.
[1:57:26] » You vote to end the debate.
>> You're voting in debate. That's what I'm
[1:57:30] saying. But
>> are you okay? So we're voting to end
[1:57:33] debate.
[1:57:38] Second all favor
[1:57:43] on favor one.
[1:57:49] » I forgot. [laughter]
[1:57:53] » So now you vote on the issue
>> which is do you want to proceed with
[1:58:00] obtaining this?
>> Yeah, that's what I got. So that's the
[1:58:05] motion that you vote on now.
>> Yeah. So could we vote on looking into
[1:58:09] the equipment package or what is that
saying or that we use
[1:58:15] » or the motion could be that um you table
it pending information on cost
[1:58:20] » and he was right that expand that
expands it. So now you can make a
[1:58:24] motion. Somebody can make a motion to
take it or table it.
[1:58:28] » I move that be tabled as we can.
>> All right. Second
[1:58:34] [laughter]
[1:58:41] motion made second. All in favor?
[clears throat]
[1:58:44] » Any oppose?
[1:58:50] » I
[1:58:55] mean,
[1:59:00] » Mr. Mayor, I'm going to have to excuse
myself. I've been feeling well and I
[1:59:03] want to go home and take my medicine.
>> Okay.
[1:59:07] » Meeting like this, but I got to go.
>> That'll be fine.
[1:59:09] » Right.
>> Okay.
[1:59:12] » All right.
[1:59:24] One, two, three.
[1:59:29] platform and office.
>> Oh,
[1:59:33] I
all right. Moving on.
[1:59:39] » Purchase of a 10 terb or larger external
hard drive in order to better maintain
[1:59:45] and keep records in office and
mainstream future audits and to keep
[1:59:50] better records for future city workers
and officials.
[1:59:55] Basically, it's an expandable hard drive
and back up to city.
[2:00:00] » It's backup for all files. So, when we
have another audit, we're not digging
[2:00:05] and trying to find everything that
should be easily accessible. And it
[2:00:10] helps free space on the computer to keep
it from running so slow and bob down so
[2:00:15] bad.
Well, you're going to be searching
[2:00:19] regardless of whether you have a
portable hard drive uh or an actual hard
[2:00:24] drive or what?
>> Yes and no.
[2:00:27] » If you file it correctly, you won't be
looking so hard.
[2:00:32] » You know what the current uh data
requirement is for storage?
[2:00:38] Well, the QuickBooks on the same
platform or was it, you know, on
[2:00:42] separate? Which one you talking about?
Is it I'm counting QuickBooks and all
[2:00:47] programs
including the
[2:00:49] » Yeah. So, what is what's being used
right now? 10 10 terabytes seems kind of
[2:00:55] high.
>> We also have to keep everything. Some
[2:00:58] things you can never destroy. Other
things you have to keep for a minimum of
[2:01:01] what? 5 years.
>> 5 years. You have to keep all
[2:01:07] » answer the question.
>> We have a a terabyte right now and then
[2:01:14] external or internal add-on I think for
that one was the laptop
[2:01:21] » I'm think
it's already maxed.
[2:01:26] » You probably don't need a 10. probably
like a three or a five cuz you got to
[2:01:30] figure in a couple years. They're going
to change how they store data anyway.
[2:01:35] It's always being upgraded.
>> So, you don't have to dump a bunch of
[2:01:41] money in something that's like three to
four times more than what you need
[2:01:47] because they'll probably have a quander
or something in two years, you know? So
[2:01:52] uh so I I would get a little bit more
than what you need and then that's my
[2:01:59] consideration thing and then you know in
two years you dump that stuff into
[2:02:04] another system or whatever get two
threes or something and uh so you have
[2:02:11] two backups at least one gets burned or
fried or something.
[2:02:18] just saying.
[2:02:22] » So, it's on the board for motion. There
you go.
[2:02:29] » Well, the 10 was $500 for something,
wasn't it?
[2:02:32] » 350 I think is the most expensive.
[2:02:38] » I know you got digital format.
>> Sorry about that. Uh
[2:02:45] on there, there's the formatting of
There's a 8 terbte
[2:02:52] 8.
>> Um
[2:02:55] 376
[2:03:02] you said 3 to four. Four would be 280
[2:03:08] some change. 5 terabte
800 for 27 8 terb for 279.
[2:03:15] » Yeah. the 8 terb for 279
>> the five is cheaper than the four
[2:03:21] » I know
>> I don't understand that
[2:03:25] » it's slash the price that's why
>> oh is it
[2:03:28] » is it
>> slash or is it refurbished
[2:03:31] that's my worry I don't
>> refurbish we did not have a very good
[2:03:36] one
>> I won't ever buy refurbish cuz they tend
[2:03:38] to fail
>> I'm not being mean cuz we did get a
[2:03:41] refurbished table
[clears throat]
[2:03:44] Um 305 for a 110.
[2:03:50] » Yeah. Mary, what do you what do you
think recommend?
[2:03:54] » The thing on the refurbished or not, you
don't know that until you ask. You're
[2:03:58] just making stuff up right now.
>> No, I'm I got a tablet and I use it for
[2:04:04] or one and it failed and then the other
reverb.
[2:04:07] » No, no. I'm saying the one that you have
priced for 5 terb for $217.
[2:04:13] You don't know if that one's refurbished
or not until you ask
[2:04:17] » is it refurbished?
>> I don't know. Is it safe?
[2:04:20] » And then up above,
>> what's going on up there? Cuz it says
[2:04:24] capacity. Oh, I guess you have it
circled 8 terb. Okay.
[2:04:28] » Yeah, 8 terab.
[2:04:32] » What
capacity?
[2:04:35] » Look above all the little icons that say
one, four, five, six, whatever. It says
[2:04:41] capacity eight, but that one's
highlighted more for 376. But
[2:04:46] » that's weird how they they're different.
>> I don't know why different.
[2:04:54] » So would a 5 ter,
[2:04:58] » you know. I mean, you have to have a
computer with say you're using this much
[2:05:02] storage and you'll need this much, you
know, like uh everybody's make like I'm
[2:05:08] making up uh a reason for this. You're
making up a you know, everybody has
[2:05:15] their own concern and no one has the
technical knowledge to say, "No, look,
[2:05:23] you've got you're only using one or two,
so you don't need a 10 or an eight. you
[2:05:28] get a three, you know, and in 2 years
you're going to want to, you know, the
[2:05:34] thing will probably degrade some anyway
and you'll want to get another one.
[2:05:38] » Yeah.
>> The buy buy 10 times more than what you
[2:05:42] need because it's going to last longer
thing is probably not going to apply
[2:05:46] with this type of technology.
>> Yeah, with the new SB3s and fours and
[2:05:52] everything coming out.
I mean, I can take you into my studio
[2:05:57] right now and show you all kinds of
storage devices that are extinct
[2:06:03] » that were the one the hard drive that
you're supposed to have for the time.
[2:06:08] They got smaller and smaller. It's going
to continually happen.
[2:06:15] » I had the same one too like that
it didn't work. You know, it works, but
[2:06:21] that was the thing. So maybe, you know,
Mary, if if there's that computer wiz
[2:06:26] that you have that comes in that's going
to consult us on the quick end, you
[2:06:30] know, if you would have her do an
assessment and say, "Look, this is how
[2:06:34] much data you're using, and this much
reserve will cover you, and then we can
[2:06:41] just make a decision and go off of
that."
[2:06:45] I'll I'll send an email to uh Valerie
and Darla and see if they have
[2:06:51] recommendation.
>> Yeah.
[2:06:53] » And Mike Bzinger is our IT guy at work.
I can ask him also.
[2:06:59] » Yeah. I mean the argument is well if
10's good get 100 terabytes because it's
[2:07:04] infinite amount of data. But, you know,
in 2 years, you know, some a mouse can
[2:07:11] urinate on it or something and things.
Uh,
[2:07:16] » we're just
>> probably getting off better off getting
[2:07:19] two backups, you know, like a smaller
something above what you need with a
[2:07:25] little surplus and then have two backups
stored in different places.
[2:07:34] That's recommended anyway.
>> Yeah, that's right. [cough] That's Yeah.
[2:07:40] Okay. So,
[2:07:45] anybody make the decision on table that
or what you want to do? So,
[2:07:50] » I make a motion to table. Everybody got
more information. How much data we are
[2:07:54] still motion table
information
[2:08:02] » and then I would defer it or whatever.
But I I would also, you know, instead of
[2:08:10] waiting a whole month to decide this
once we have the information, if we had
[2:08:14] some way to just say, "Okay, that's the
answer. We can need to order this $200
[2:08:21] piece of equipment. It's It's going to
be under $500 probably. So, it should be
[2:08:26] a decision that could be made quickly by
the mayor and a couple in there.
[2:08:32] » Yeah. And that's correct.
>> But you can make the motion to allow the
[2:08:37] purchase up to whatever amount you want.
>> No, we can. Yeah.
[2:08:43] » Yeah. So, we can make a motion. I can
make my motion on that one or they can
[2:08:50] » they can make Yeah, you guys can make
that motion on how much to limit to
[2:08:54] spend on it
>> based on the finance. I would make a
[2:08:59] motion to uh allow for let's say $450
uh to be budgeted for this uh and hope
[2:09:10] be budgeted for this and that we can
proceed with a decision once we have a
[2:09:16] reasonable estimate of what data how
much data storage we need.
[2:09:21] » Is that including researching like
consulting
[2:09:26] the 450
We will be lecturing your consultants.
[2:09:31] » Well, I didn't know. I was just making
sure.
[2:09:34] » I want regular to make sure. I just They
don't charge. Third world warrior don't
[2:09:40] charge.
>> All right. Then then that's not an issue
[2:09:44] then.
>> Certainly going to decide 400 or 450.
[2:09:50] » I would say 450. So you have enough for
two units.
[2:10:01] So, there's a motion for 450
by Doc.
[2:10:10] Does anybody want to second?
>> I'll second that.
[2:10:14] » Motion made a second. All in favor.
>> Is that an amendment?
[2:10:18] » Huh?
>> Was that amendment? Was that amendment?
[2:10:23] » Doc made a motion.
>> He made the original. Yeah, he made the
[2:10:27] original motion and said
[2:10:36] » so all in favor.
>> Any oppos?
[2:10:41] Motion carries.
>> All right.
[2:10:47] Water spray schedule review in
accordance with ordinance 10:15.
[2:10:52] And we uh and we take a break. We've
been at this for
[2:10:57] 2 hours and a half. My blood is now.
[2:11:06] » Oh my goodness.
[2:11:17] » You have to make a motion. Take a short
recess unless
[2:11:22] There we go.
>> I make a motion to take a short recess
[2:11:26] so that people can relieve themselves.
[laughter]
[2:11:31] » Motion
consideration.
[2:11:39] » I All right. Any oppose? I don't think
so. Motion carries.
[2:11:46] In 5 minutes, right?
We're back in session.
[2:11:53] Um, okay.
[2:11:58] » Yeah, I know you're probably
waterworks schedule review ordinance
[2:12:04] 1015 in your package. You'll see that it
was brought to my attention to
[2:12:11] what brought to your attention.
>> Um, that the billing from previous
[2:12:20] When we change over from u
the old system to the new system, the
[2:12:27] some people were getting water at
how should I put this?
[2:12:34] » Free.
[2:12:37] So we created the waterwork schedule
ordinance
[2:12:43] August 21st in 2025. We already did
that. So
[2:12:51] with these yard meters and a lot of
them, that's not only it. There's some
[2:12:55] houses that just have water only, not
sewer because they're like split between
[2:12:59] the county.
Um, so we need to figure something out
[2:13:03] with this cuz it says repeal of 981 if
you read it
[2:13:10] on section three of 10:15.
So that would I would think Mary if you
[2:13:17] could help me with that I think that
would in my understanding that would
[2:13:22] repeal 981
>> exactly.
[2:13:26] » So at that base rate
that USDA schedules for us are these
[2:13:34] separate meters
with pressure on our side are they
[2:13:38] considered active meters and should be
charged and such?
[2:13:42] » Yes. Okay.
All right.
[2:13:46] So, that's pretty much where our deficit
is, right? I guess the residents are
[2:13:52] compensating for the loss on the other
side on those accounts. There's like how
[2:13:57] many?
So a
[2:14:00] » 15
>> 15 I'm sorry 15 accounts that weren't
[2:14:05] tier field drive
when the when uh Valerie came in and
[2:14:11] that clerk
previously set that up those were never
[2:14:16] built but a base rate of $13
and then
[2:14:20] » um I don't know what that was. I didn't
do that.
[2:14:24] » No you I'm just saying that's what I
found on subs.
[2:14:27] » Yeah. So their bills were just flat
rate. So they can use 86,000 gallons and
[2:14:32] just pay 13
12 or 60 21 I'm sorry.
[2:14:39] » So
yeah, you pay more than that for the
[2:14:44] water
because you buy water.
[2:14:48] » Yes.
>> So you can't.
[2:14:52] So
based on your expert opinion and
[2:14:59] training and knowledge and experience
with this with other towns that have
[2:15:04] secondary meters or residential or they
build the same thing.
[2:15:08] » Yeah. They don't get a special rate.
They just don't get charged sewer for
[2:15:11] that.
>> Okay.
[2:15:13] » Meter. That's the purpose of a yard
meter or an irrigation meter is that you
[2:15:19] don't pay sewer fees.
So, but you do still have to pay the
[2:15:24] meter charge and the per gallon per
thousand gallon rate for the water.
[2:15:29] » Okay.
981.
[2:15:32] The previous administration had where
they originally they had it set up like
[2:15:37] 10:15
which then they repealed it went to 981.
[2:15:41] » Mhm.
So,
[2:15:46] cuz
when we looked into it, we lost $18,000.
[2:15:53] » Um, I don't remember the exact amount. I
just know it was a 96% loss.
[2:15:58] » 96.2% loss.
>> But you can't go back and back bill. No,
[2:16:02] » no, no. I'm not I'm just let
>> going forward from that administrative
[2:16:08] oversight. Obviously.
>> Mhm.
[2:16:12] » Do we build it at the minimum of 3640
for those?
[2:16:17] » Yeah.
>> Cuz I mean
[2:16:22] » that's what your ordinance says for the
105.
[2:16:26] » So do we we don't need to make up a new
orders.
[2:16:30] » Okay. So does this one with this the 105
that includes gardeners here?
[2:16:40] » Okay.
[2:16:46] » Would that because of the USDA rules in
that contract 981
[2:16:51] by changing
and separate segregating these two from
[2:16:55] each other that's not legal. Is it legal
or is there anything legalitywise with
[2:17:00] it?
>> So
[2:17:04] before I get
>> advice, you know, I would give them. But
[2:17:08] at the time, that's what they did. They
passed the ordinance and they bailed the
[2:17:11] people at that rate.
>> Yeah.
[2:17:14] » But what when we did this back in 2025,
it cancelled all the previous rape
[2:17:22] ordinances, including 981. So
>> I just didn't know 981 existed at that
[2:17:29] time.
>> Yeah.
[2:17:32] » So not do you think 981 is a viable
solution? Anything that be I mean cuz
[2:17:40] they're not paying for paying per gallon
but they haven't most of these been just
[2:17:45] paying a base fee. It's been
>> 131 a month. There's one I think Brian's
[2:17:50] channel I'm not I know but it is
accurate
[2:17:54] been other than the base but other than
gowns have been built but the rest of
[2:18:00] them is just one piece no matter what
you use.
[2:18:06] » But that's that's immaterial. This is
what you need to do now.
[2:18:09] » That's what I'm saying. I just wanted to
clarify that before
[2:18:15] » it gets realistic around here because
[2:18:21] right
>> so what you might do on the accounts
[2:18:25] that this is um pertinent to the 13 to
15 m
[2:18:31] » um I think I would pull their bills and
not do a postcard bill. I would send a
[2:18:36] copy of this ordinance and a letter
stating that this is what your bills
[2:18:40] will be for the water only meter at your
address so that they
[2:18:46] » Yeah. And just put it in a regular
envelope and mail them that.
[2:18:49] » I can do that.
>> Yeah. So that would be making our water
[2:18:54] surpluses
lower than normally. Pretty much the
[2:19:01] other meters are compensating for the
loss of the other ones, right? that I
[2:19:04] was working or balancing out.
>> No. So,
[2:19:09] » I'm not sure exactly. So, if I remember
correctly, I don't think you guys are
[2:19:15] still in the black as far as revenues
go. I was looking at the treasures
[2:19:21] report tonight and um I think that you
all had projected that you would make
[2:19:28] $180,000
in water revenue this year. So after 10
[2:19:33] months I think you're going to earn 18.
Um but I'm not sure if that's expenses
[2:19:40] or revenue.
So um
[2:19:45] because the
water fund so um original budget
[2:19:53] 181400
budget used. So this is maybe expenses
[2:19:59] but there's no there's no place on your
financial statement to know how much
[2:20:04] money you have collected year to date.
Um
[2:20:13] so I'll work with Leslie and see if we
can figure out some of that stuff
[2:20:18] because you need to know that to do your
budget.
[2:20:21] » Yeah, that's a big thing on that. That's
why I just want to make sure cuz
[2:20:27] when I say that just based on that usage
that it it made sense when I compared
[2:20:33] the reports from the meter off the
county.
[2:20:36] » That's what you need to do is compare
gallons gallons they are billing you
[2:20:41] versus gallons you build the customers
that you serve. And I don't think that
[2:20:46] has been done.
>> No, she just I got it somewhere but she
[2:20:51] did broke down and I compared those
numbers with what we claim it's loss. We
[2:20:56] thought it was lost which it is a loss
but that I think there's probably
[2:21:03] 15 to 20% maybe margin there. There was
some broken lines but pretty much it's
[2:21:10] spot on when you add all that together
plus or minus. So I mean I just wanted
[2:21:16] to check with you.
>> Oh financial cost $18,439
[2:21:20] » and what what was paid in
>> to receive 400 or $73
[2:21:27] » and we paid how much?
>> $18,349.
[2:21:31] So there's
>> And how many gallons was that based on?
[2:21:38] » I'm not sure because
>> I think that the beginning readings on
[2:21:44] some of the meters are not accurate.
>> They're not.
[2:21:46] » And so it's really hard to know how many
gallons. It's kind of a gift.
[2:21:51] » Yeah.
>> And the numbers I do have. Yeah.
[2:21:54] » I'm going to get into that, too. Um,
[2:21:59] so did you figure out the difference
percentage wise on those Neptunes? I
[2:22:03] did. Okay. So, Neptune hand down also
since you brought that up about a
[2:22:10] nonaccurate meters. I'm going to point
Neptune install four all around points
[2:22:15] of the city different cellular.
cellular was in the demo and compared to
[2:22:23] previous month to this month
three out of the four or 7 10% off
[2:22:30] » the old meters were lower than living
meters.
[2:22:34] » Yes.
So,
[2:22:37] our current meters in the ground
are they're benefiting everybody,
[2:22:45] but they're they're not actually reading
correctly, but they're obsolete.
[2:22:51] So, I just wanted to see as a basis and
see what the cellular would be like cuz
[2:22:58] it was a demo, you know, on Neptune. It
does a tenth of a gallon. So it was nice
[2:23:02] seeing and like one had a quick loss
like use a lot of water and it alerts
[2:23:09] you. It was pretty neat but the whole
spectrum of it but I just wanted to see
[2:23:14] what if our meters were accurate then
>> how long have they been in the ground?
[2:23:18] » 1 month.
>> No the old
[2:23:20] » how many Oh the old meters
2009
[2:23:29] 15 years. What kind of meters are they?
Do they have a wobble disc inside of
[2:23:33] them? Do you know?
>> Yeah.
[2:23:34] » Yeah.
>> They're the new disc with the magnet. A
[2:23:39] lot of times you get they don't
and I can't I can't find any parts to
[2:23:44] rebuild them. I try. I mean, I rebuild
what I can, but
[2:23:47] » Yeah. It's You're not going to get the
accuracy back.
[2:23:51] » Yeah. And any place that the meter
freezes um usually what happens is that
[2:23:56] magnet breaks off or partially breaks
off and that's and it'll catch you know
[2:24:01] some of the turns but not all of them.
>> So anytime you have freezing that's an
[2:24:07] issue too.
>> Yeah. So that's I was just curious to
[2:24:12] bring all of that too. What kind of
what's the measuring mechanism in the
[2:24:17] new
>> ultrasonic
[2:24:20] to advance
>> ultrasonic and then base cellular
[2:24:26] and they all were number one I mean they
had a couple hit and miss but they still
[2:24:32] registered but they're to a tenth of a
gallon
[2:24:35] » so
and these were brand new they stuck me
[2:24:39] around and I couldn't believe the
difference in usage only one was
[2:24:43] accurate compared to the other three. I
mean, the gas station was up, wasn't it?
[2:24:52] Only
>> What size meter is the gas station? Is
[2:24:54] it just a regular regular? Yeah, 5/4.
[2:25:00] So, and then
>> that's surprising. The gas station ice
[2:25:04] machines or do they buy all their ice?
>> They buy their ice and dump it in there.
[2:25:09] » Okay.
>> That's what I do. At least I'm pretty
[2:25:11] sure it still do that. So
>> I changes a lot of water.
[2:25:15] » Yeah. So that's probably why he buys in
cold and they throw bags in it and
[2:25:20] stuff.
But
[2:25:22] » I just wanted to make sure this
ordinance and any other have any
[2:25:26] questions about it
[2:25:32] » cuz and then I wanted to make people
aware about the meters difference too.
[2:25:46] Okay.
>> Okay.
[2:25:50] So, yeah.
Hey, who is it?
[2:25:59] Yes. Do that. Are you there? I'm just
coughing.
[2:26:04] » Okay.
Bless you.
[2:26:08] That's coughing.
[2:26:18] » All right, moving on.
Okay.
[2:26:23] Is there anything else?
You guys want to bring board
[2:26:28] before we adjourn
[2:26:33] and go into close session real quick.
[2:26:41] Nothing. All right.
>> Why do we have all these reports?
[2:26:47] » Oh, I don't have that. Sorry.
>> All right.
[2:26:51] » Sorry. I don't have
105.
[2:26:56] There you go.
[2:27:03] » Moving on. Departmental.
[2:27:07] All right. On emergency management. Uh
Joker still working FEMA. Working on
[2:27:13] that. Also,
I talked to Michael and there's some
[2:27:19] other grants he sent me. I'm signing
one. We're going to get some more money
[2:27:24] from one of the loans. It held 10% back
but not loans grants. Correct.
[2:27:34] » So, yes. So, other than that, I've been
watching just different things. Um,
[2:27:45] » did he say how much?
>> Uh, I believe about five grand. They
[2:27:50] held back 750 is
what we're looking at right now.
[2:27:56] » Yeah, there's
>> I don't know other
[2:27:58] » Yeah, the other ones the 3750 on one of
them, but they held back. So,
[2:28:04] um other than that,
I don't have anything really.
[2:28:13] So,
police department
[2:28:18] doc
>> uh non-existent right now.
[2:28:24] » All right. We are too tall.
Right.
[2:28:31] Administration department. Um
um Alderman Helms is um left early from
[2:28:39] illness.
Alman Freish, do you have anything to
[2:28:43] report on?
>> I'll let Brian do his job.
[2:28:49] » Okay, Brian,
>> cuz he should have been helping all this
[2:28:52] time to help Leslie give Snapchat and he
hasn't.
[2:29:01] And we need that snapshot.
My [clears throat] wife does it. Has he
[2:29:05] shown?
>> I hate that he left cuz I was going to
[2:29:09] tell him he was he
[2:29:14] » just left. I didn't know he said he
didn't take mad. So
[2:29:19] » he had some uh he told me last week that
he had uh some dental problems and had
[2:29:28] uh I don't know root canal or something
like that. So,
[2:29:33] » all right.
>> That's that's probably what was going on
[2:29:36] with that.
>> Okay. Well, I agree. Brian needs to be
[2:29:41] more active with admin. He needs a
reason to come down, I guess. Is that
[2:29:45] right? He
>> say,
[2:29:48] » so we're going to hold that.
>> Yeah. Sure.
[2:29:52] » All right. Uh street department do
[2:29:58] » uh the streets look beautiful where
they've been done. Uh they I mean really
[2:30:03] it's been uh great around fourth street
around the corner and I then I saw when
[2:30:11] I was leaving town they were working up
the road up towards the church I guess
[2:30:17] and we had a call from a resident on 8th
Street
[2:30:22] uh regarding the
uh regarding 8th Street and what uh you
[2:30:30] know when it was going be done, etc. So,
I explained that,
[2:30:35] you know, that you had a sequence of of
streets that you were doing with jokers
[2:30:40] and uh that they would
uh and I that I remember that you had
[2:30:48] mentioned that
uh
[2:30:53] that was on their list of things to do.
Uh, and then this thing where uh Ronnie
[2:31:00] Garnett mentioned
uh about the trees and he said cedar but
[2:31:06] I think he meant sycamore and uh I was
trying to get you know that's between my
[2:31:13] property and the wristlers and uh I was
trying to understand what he said and
[2:31:19] and then after thinking about a bit he
was right. There was a a large walnut
[2:31:26] tree limb that fell that night that we
had the big storm and uh
[2:31:33] uh I she couldn't get out of her
driveway.
[2:31:39] So uh I went over and and Eric cut some
limbs up and I cut some limbs up and we
[2:31:46] chucked it all out of the way so she can
get in and out for like crisis
[2:31:51] management. So, if
uh the guys have time to
[2:31:57] uh snatch those limbs up and put them on
a trailer and take them down to get
[2:32:02] burned, that'll be great.
>> All right.
[2:32:06] » Where was that at again?
>> Sycamore and Fourth.
[2:32:12] Okay.
>> Right in front of Brenda Risker's house.
[2:32:15] » Okay.
>> Yeah.
[2:32:19] All right. Anything
else?
[2:32:25] Uh, well, it's a minor issue, but on uh
third and sycamore
[2:32:33] on third and sycamore, they, you know,
when they detour when jokers detourred
[2:32:41] traffic through there, then uh, you
know, like right away the road started
[2:32:46] to tear up on that corner. And we've uh
had a chat about that and Todd I guess
[2:32:52] was going to look at it to see if
something could be done about that.
[2:32:55] Yeah.
>> Yeah, we already um yesterday we went
[2:32:59] around and he went up there by you what
your concerns were with that curve.
[2:33:05] So he's
looking and see what he can do about
[2:33:09] that
and also the other third and second more
[2:33:14] issue.
>> Yeah. head and over
[2:33:19] uh on I guess at Seventh Street the that
one tree roots that be that needed to be
[2:33:29] cut out or something with those pine
trees
[2:33:32] that that [clears throat] may need
further attention
[2:33:37] once they're up there working on it.
Yeah, maybe
[2:33:44] Frankie and the guys couldn't get that
uh cut out and cut that lateral branch,
[2:33:51] you know, that's going on the road and
while they're up there, there may be an
[2:33:56] opportunity to uh address that
with since they got asphalt up there,
[2:34:03] too. And it probably doesn't require
that much to patch that those two. I
[2:34:09] don't know if it's one spot or two
spots.
[2:34:11] » It's two. It's like 10 by 20 and then
another little spot.
[2:34:17] It's minimal just cut out.
>> Yeah. It's also that location if they're
[2:34:22] going to be uh
like that. I don't know about cuz if
[2:34:27] they're going to be building houses up
there, then that means they're going to
[2:34:32] be hauling heavy equipment in and out of
there to, you know, to accomplish that
[2:34:37] stuff. And we, you know, we're probably
going to have to take a look at how to
[2:34:42] manage that so stuff doesn't get damaged
more or dam, you know, like maybe some
[2:34:48] of it will can be delayed until the
subdivision's put up because the streets
[2:34:54] will get torn up by bulldozers and stuff
going in and out of there. Yeah.
[2:34:59] » And uh and then when it's done and you
got new houses up, then you can kind of
[2:35:05] repave the road so it looks, you know,
kind of posh.
[2:35:10] And yeah, Todd and Steve and me were
talking about that and then leaving some
[2:35:15] gaps in those areas so when they got
done, Steve could probably take on when
[2:35:22] he fills his roads, finish those gaps
instead of us.
[2:35:28] Does that make sense? Once you select
somebody to wedge cut
[2:35:34] like you're you're saying leave that
areas where they don't get to
[2:35:40] that's just my thoughts. I don't know
that that needs to be done. It's just a
[2:35:44] lot you know there's that's a pro
potential problem spot. I think
[2:35:49] » it is. It is. What do we have to wait
about the whole seventh street there
[2:35:55] down to uh 61?
You don't want to I don't know if
[2:36:00] there's anything there.
>> No, they're not I don't think I think
[2:36:05] they're going to patch a few spots or do
like what they call wedge repair that
[2:36:09] binds it. It's like a heart. But there's
that valve down there. But that's all
[2:36:13] mod
and mod that everybody else that one
[2:36:18] valve was really bent on that one side.
So
[2:36:24] I'll call Brad and see if he can feather
that out cuz that's a steep hill.
[2:36:30] There's got to be a way to Is that what
you're talking about?
[2:36:33] » Yeah. Like from 61 up way up 7th Street.
>> Yeah. if they're going to be putting
[2:36:38] those big trucks through there. There's
anything from was it um
[2:36:43] Sycamore
down to um 61
[2:36:52] area?
>> No, 7 7th Street down to um yeah, I'm
[2:36:57] sorry. Seven Seventh Street there. That
intersection of 7th Street
[2:37:02] and anything from 7th Street down to 61.
If there's anything needs to be patched,
[2:37:07] we probably need to hold off on that
until after they start building.
[2:37:11] » Yeah, we weren't planning on good of
that. And just like at the top of
[2:37:15] scenarion
[2:37:24] would go in and we that's why it's
feathered in it right by the fire
[2:37:28] hydrant and that's it. than the rest.
It's just damage control, holding what
[2:37:34] we can back from time B in so we don't
lose the whole road and have to do a
[2:37:40] full tear out. And that will hold right
there till he gets done with every
[2:37:45] building. They would have to come up
probably
[2:37:52] or something. I would imagine they can't
come up seventh unless they have a
[2:37:57] special logo. But I mean that's I don't
know. I don't know what it is. Bobby
[2:38:02] knows that they find it from Bobby's
have equipment up there. So I don't
[2:38:06] know. But yeah, everything on that side
they stopped up there. That's they're
[2:38:10] not going further than that because that
subdivision and what he wants to do.
[2:38:16] » I see over there behind the antique mall
by the um that one's house. They tore
[2:38:25] part not to they cut part of that street
out from side to side
[2:38:30] » where
>> Yeah. Right over
[2:38:33] » Yeah. For six street
[clears throat] totally falling apart.
[2:38:38] We passed and passed and passed and it's
just falling out and so they just cut
[2:38:43] that wedge out and they're going that
way and call a skimp about skimp like
[2:38:47] that one. It's a heart attack.
>> Are they going to fill that in then?
[2:38:52] » Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Tomorrow is actually
they're doing it. It's just a BB1 hard
[2:38:59] pack. to kind of bind that instead of
chipping seal. What does hold it till we
[2:39:04] can actually do a 4 in over, you know,
where like 8 Street's getting overhauled
[2:39:10] where the bad spot all the way down is
and like Doc said, there's spots here
[2:39:17] and there, but and they've been hitting
some extra spots, you know, cuz it's
[2:39:21] like been leveling out. So, I mean, if
there's any concerns with that, I know
[2:39:27] there'll be six tomorrow and I and
they'll let me know after that. It's
[2:39:32] just not a whole six. It's just
kind of like by Eric and house and where
[2:39:38] the hill goes cuz that hill and by
Margaret's
[2:39:42] » and and Dwayne's old house is all popped
up and Eric put some cold patch and it's
[2:39:47] already gone
kicked up. I don't know why it don't
[2:39:52] take but everything's just popping. So,
but I see your point. They're not doing
[2:39:58] the whole thing. That's what you worry
about around that square.
[2:40:01] » Yeah.
>> They're not doing that. The root
[2:40:03] remedation. Is that what you're talking
about, Doc?
[2:40:08] Cutting them roots out. That's a 10 by
20 spot. That's all it is.
[2:40:12] » Yeah.
>> All right.
[2:40:15] » All right. Well, don't have to dig it up
and cut the roots and and then dig the
[2:40:22] root up that's under the road so it'll
drop down cuz otherwise it's going to
[2:40:25] rot and, you know, stay elevated.
Okay.
[2:40:32] All right. Anything else, doc?
Uh, no. I think that's [clears throat]
[2:40:38] it. Okay.
All right. Water and waste water
[2:40:43] departments.
[2:40:49] As you notice, you're with Eric and I
who has major safety issues,
[2:40:57] electrical,
chemical,
[2:41:01] and
[2:41:05] the biggest thing
you notice, I don't know,
[2:41:11] I'm noticing that this electrical thing
is to defend
[2:41:19] and I put on my sheet will a statement
be made about the city not having a
[2:41:24] money to mitigate safety issues.
We have to we have to mitigate safety
[2:41:30] issues. We can't have a person
electrocuted on our property or have a
[2:41:36] person that's come and sit at home and
pay their bills beaten by a snake. Cuz
[2:41:44] if we wouldn't have put those
covers
[2:41:50] right there on those doors, three
copperheads have been killed on our
[2:41:55] property
and nobody has done a damn thing. See,
[2:42:00] we can't live like that.
We just can't. And if we got out to the
[2:42:05] public, there's
a living up in these pipes and up in
[2:42:11] this attic. And we got the city hall.
>> The back where the old well is
[2:42:18] » right there on both sides.
>> We We closed the hole off. It was a big
[2:42:25] hole like this. I had Eric go and get a
piece of metal and put it in front of it
[2:42:32] because we had said we was going to
purchase a door. We need a new door
[2:42:40] and
we need a new lot set at the water
[2:42:45] plant. People just go in and out and
then out and go
[2:42:51] anytime they want. That frightens me
because old military man, you got to
[2:42:56] have control. You got to lock stuff down
cuz people find out stuff that's open.
[2:43:01] They'll go in there and do crazy things.
So, I was saying we need to fix some of
[2:43:07] these safety issues here.
Are we going to be following this? Cuz
[2:43:16] we need to put the money in to get those
doors.
[2:43:21] two doors, one down at the plank and one
here. Cuz the windows broke out. There's
[2:43:26] a big old hole like that.
Let's take this right on down.
[2:43:36] » I didn't tell you, but I want you to
know
[2:43:40] » that's when I was keeping you awake and
I was keeping the folks working on each
[2:43:44] side of you trying to mitigate some of
this stuff.
[2:43:51] in our dump truck.
[2:43:56] We'll be following on this getting this
dump truck. We going to need this dump
[2:43:59] truck.
>> Yeah,
[2:44:03] » we don't need it.
>> Yeah.
[2:44:05] » And that's talking about hydraulics.
[2:44:11] » Hydraulics.
>> But as you saw, Mr. Mayor, that
[2:44:15] electrical stuff
>> that's Yeah. I got a call tomorrow. You
[2:44:20] want me to call out and follow through
with
[2:44:23] » the mayor of paral citizens electric?
She referred
[2:44:29] him to
another member. We got to get something
[2:44:33] out here
because we don't have any control of the
[2:44:37] power
source, right?
[2:44:39] » No, it's digging back into a box there
from the old threephase water filtration
[2:44:46] system. So, it's in a switch box.
>> We'll throw a switch box.
[2:44:52] » We've been We've been really trying to
mitigate some of this stuff.
[2:44:58] We going to need everybody's help on
supporting us.
[2:45:03] I just see it coming. We got rid of 29
trucks of Sud
[2:45:14] dealing with all that chlorox
two weeks ago
[2:45:21] cuz the city in the garage so long. So
the
[2:45:25] oxides and the pallets just rotted away.
[2:45:33] What else? and we spread gravel in there
to try to
[2:45:38] help the yard so we don't get stuck
when we're running out of equipment. I
[2:45:44] really need your support cuz I want to
put in work orders to get some of this
[2:45:52] done before something bad happens.
>> So, have you priced doors or anything
[2:45:58] like that? We have um that south door is
got to be like an emergency door with
[2:46:04] the push thing
and it's got to be fire rated because of
[2:46:09] that electrical glass that
you get glass cabinet
[2:46:16] for the controls of the whole wastewater
plant.
[2:46:21] The north face door, I guess, west face
door or east face door. East,
[2:46:28] » sorry, I'm sorry. East face door can
just be reed. I can re key this one over
[2:46:32] here. I need to get a full measurement
of the sash because it is rotted away
[2:46:37] and bad.
>> Can you get the measurements for parent
[2:46:42] so we can
>> and if this if the framing's rotted out
[2:46:47] just give me inside jam, you know,
outside jam and all that and I can go
[2:46:52] from there.
>> We took the whole team
[2:46:58] up on the second floor on the old water
plant.
[2:47:03] What? Three three uh board
>> two two sheets of two sheets of board
[2:47:08] had to be put up.
>> Yeah.
[2:47:10] » To close that off.
>> Yeah. And that
[2:47:13] » birds and anything they want to come in
there can go in there and hang out.
[2:47:18] » There's a fire there and burnt through
the wall and everything.
[2:47:21] » But nobody did anything and screen it up
>> at the old fire thing.
[2:47:25] » Yeah. The right where the costic soda's
hand is right behind me.
[2:47:31] It took the whole team over there to get
it done. We made it in less than two
[2:47:36] hours.
[2:47:40] » What we do with the cost of soda, Mary?
Is there a way to break that down?
[2:47:46] » So, you have costic soda store over
there just still.
[2:47:51] » I'm sorry to interrupt. No, I
[clears throat] I just thought about
[2:47:57] nobody knows around here. Like
>> I would I would call one of the water
[2:48:01] circuit writers.
Um
[2:48:08] probably Dustin Goodman Goodman and talk
to him. Um
[2:48:20] I'm sure there's a way to neutralize it.
But you don't want to create a heat
[2:48:25] issue or an explosive issue. So there's
I'm sure a safer way to do that
[2:48:32] » because they had to be processed with
another acid and another thing broke
[2:48:37] down with water and
>> right but then it highly volatile at
[2:48:42] certain points temperatures and there
>> and I touched a bag of that and ate my
[2:48:47] fingers like I didn't know what it was.
I thought it was lining broke. Uh-huh.
[2:48:54] It's not.
>> Yeah. So, um
[2:48:59] » Yeah. I'm I'd call Dustin and see if
he's going to be in the area.
[2:49:03] » I'll call Dustin and see what he thinks.
>> Cuz now, do we need to keep electric
[2:49:09] going to this old well that's not hooked
up and there's never been control into
[2:49:13] it?
[2:49:17] » Is it listed as an emergency supply? No.
>> But no, I don't think so. That's best
[2:49:22] than that,
>> too.
[2:49:24] We're paying electric.
>> Yeah. You're going to pay me either fee
[2:49:29] whether there's usage or not.
>> Yeah. And it's been capped and plugged
[2:49:33] as well. One and two would have already
been plugged. So, and there was no use.
[2:49:39] They spent a bunch of money, but never.
So, I'll ask us in that. I I didn't mean
[2:49:46] to interject. No, I'm sorry. No, but you
need electrician, you need electrician
[2:49:50] coming tomorrow.
>> Next Friday. Next Friday.
[2:49:54] » Next Friday.
>> Next Friday at 8 a.m.
[2:49:57] » Because every electrical issue we had,
we put an order on it to give us an
[2:50:04] estimate. But he can't give us an
estimate until he
[2:50:10] get
what y'all call it. There's a
[2:50:14] three-phase main coming into the
junction box and they split it down to a
[2:50:18] single phase and ran it over here to the
200 amp service and and everything's
[2:50:25] piggy back in here.
>> Oh wow.
[2:50:27] » Yeah. When they got rid of this um water
treatment treatment. Yeah.
[2:50:34] I guess in lie of cleaning and disposing
it, they let them take the wire. So it's
[2:50:39] stripped.
>> They ripped everything out. So there's
[2:50:43] nothing but a hot three leg system in
there.
[2:50:49] Yeah. And that's the only thing that
shuts it off. And that's not even I
[2:50:54] haven't seen a box like this since the
80s
[2:50:59] electrician come.
>> Brian gets up at the
[2:51:04] the convenience store. He's a certified
electrician.
[2:51:09] And then I'm talking to some other
electricians over at the school. I found
[2:51:14] your beans. They put those pipes on. You
said Shelby.
[2:51:19] » Yes.
>> Perry County School has a whole bunch of
[2:51:23] them sitting out.
They're ready to go somewhere. So, I'm
[2:51:27] going to talk with the maintenance
manager.
[2:51:30] » Okay. Tomorrow.
We get our pipes and stuff. Is that what
[2:51:36] you said you want to do?
>> Yeah. So they don't get old.
[2:51:42] » But that electrical thing is not going
to be cheap.
[2:51:46] » No,
>> it's not going to be cheap by us, not
[2:51:52] » you.
>> I pointed it out to firm.
[2:51:55] » No, some of that reimburse money was for
that box,
[2:52:00] » but they didn't count that because they
it's straight through and through.
[2:52:04] Even though it's a switch, it's not up.
It's not standard code policy.
[2:52:11] » So, it doesn't even meet building the
other requirements. So,
[2:52:15] » we're very fortunate. We are very
fortunate. Nobody has hurt.
[2:52:19] » Now, I got a brand new 200 amp service
commercial one. We need it cuz that box
[2:52:27] is
loose.
[2:52:30] I'd like to see what he's going to tell
us what it's going to cost us to get
[2:52:34] this. But we can't close our eyes and
hear.
[2:52:39] We better
>> do something.
[2:52:41] » It's just And the plant that Michael's
working on the big box. Trying to find a
[2:52:47] company that specializes in that cuz
that's a mess, too.
[2:52:53] » The one down.
>> Yeah. It keeps kicking out and this and
[2:52:57] that. Just
So
[2:53:01] » is that the one who open door and stuff?
>> Yeah, you got to open your head.
[2:53:06] » Burn said they just
>> they didn't take care of No.
[2:53:12] » Did he Didn't he tell us he didn't say
like it was that big of a deal, but it
[2:53:17] had to be corrected.
>> Yeah. He said he said it wasn't that big
[2:53:21] of a deal in there. And he said, "Won't
you open up the box depending on how
[2:53:25] they got stuff wired?"
>> I open that box with Michael and his
[2:53:29] engineer, [clears throat] his electrical
engineer.
[2:53:34] » And you got generator backup wires that
go in there with switch box.
[2:53:39] » All kinds of wires.
>> I mean, it's not just simple. I mean
[2:53:42] looking at it and saying simple but when
you have engineering electrical engineer
[2:53:48] that wants to just run a separate box
just for the plant to run because it's
[2:53:53] too much of a risk to kill everything.
>> Yeah.
[2:53:57] » Hey maybe [clears throat]
I think you're right have a backup to
[2:54:04] make sure
>> we have to what that generator required.
[2:54:07] I mean cuz it has wire secondary wires
on the switch box and add it in. You
[2:54:15] know
>> I think we we have drug so long and now
[2:54:21] we pick
>> you know any town needs 55 gallons of
[2:54:24] moratic acid.
>> But since I mean ask us
[2:54:30] » okay I didn't know he ran around. We
used to use when I worked at the water
[2:54:35] plant, we used muratic acid to clean the
line machines all the time.
[2:54:38] » Yeah.
>> Then we would pour muratic acid right on
[2:54:42] the machines and then posttop.
>> I've been in some dicey situations.
[2:54:48] » Well, we got 85 gallons and water on a
plant might melt it and fall apart.
[2:54:55] » Yeah, they will.
[2:54:59] » Anything else? No. I'm sorry.
No, I'm not sorry. That was at the
[2:55:04] bottom of my list.
>> Was it
[2:55:09] serious?
>> Well, it crossed it out. It came across
[2:55:13] my mind. Oh, yeah.
>> All right. Parking cemetery.
[2:55:20] » Not too much about the park. Cemetery.
you a couple questions about um have we
[2:55:26] ever gotten the big limb removed that we
took a couple bids on?
[2:55:34] » No.
>> No.
[2:55:35] » It broke some more here and there and
Sharon's cut it up, but it's still
[2:55:41] treating them. And Jim was supposed to
like he requested submit other bid and
[2:55:49] he hasn't yet. So, I haven't got
anything from him.
[2:55:53] We need
>> fire.
[2:55:55] » Yeah, I know.
>> There.
[2:55:58] » And then I need I got with Jeff. I think
Jeff Rosette. He said we can take and
[2:56:04] cut the fence right there. We had to lay
all over there and cut it up as long as
[2:56:09] we cleaned it up. So it didn't fall this
way and hit tombstone. So we could they
[2:56:15] could drop it that way in this field. So
we would just have to reconnect the
[2:56:20] fence with that which won't be hard to
do.
[2:56:23] » Is there anything on the other side of
the fence? Just the field.
[2:56:26] » Just his field. Yeah. Yeah.
>> What's his name?
[2:56:30] » See Jeff
and Trish.
[2:56:34] » Oh, you know, you know,
[2:56:39] that's the only thing I can think of
top, you know, actually that thing goes.
[2:56:44] » Well, that would save us some money. I
know it would be labor for us the city
[2:56:49] to do it that way.
>> Joseph is, you know, if it's woody, but
[2:56:54] as long as we put on the side, he'll
need it. We can get it and split it. So,
[2:56:58] it's being reused instead of just burn,
you know what I mean? I mean, it's being
[2:57:02] burned, but that way it will be labor on
us, but at least we won't be paying.
[2:57:09] I don't know. I mean, it's up to you how
you want to do this. I can call and ask
[2:57:12] somebody to drop it and then us cut it
up. or them cut it up or whatever you
[2:57:18] want me to do. I mean, let's you and I
go up there and look.
[2:57:22] » Yeah, cuz I mean it keeps breaking off
in certain spots. It hit one tombstone.
[2:57:27] It's not too bad. I was able to clean it
up.
[2:57:30] » That was my next question. I know we had
that storm um first part of August and
[2:57:35] you sent me pictures of those little
pieces that fallen.
[2:57:38] » No, it was more of that tree there and
another tree. And any of those
[2:57:43] tombstones if they're damaged from them?
>> That one was a chip, but not enough down
[2:57:48] to the lettering. It was one of them
rough chip top ones.
[2:57:51] » Okay.
>> You know, the porest.
[2:57:54] » But if that whole tree goes, we're
talking mass mass.
[2:58:00] » So,
>> well, I want to get with you then. We
[2:58:02] need both and then make a decision.
>> Cuz this is a hefty tree. I 4 and 1/2 ft
[2:58:08] diameter in the bottom.
It's a monster.
[2:58:12] » I know they wanted to last time we
talked about they wanted to make a bucks
[2:58:15] that had a tree drop, but
>> yeah,
[2:58:17] » it was just the limb that was the big
issue.
[2:58:20] » And then getting in there is the other
thing trying to get up in there, not
[2:58:26] disturbing anybody,
>> right?
[2:58:28] » Grave site. So,
>> all right. We'll make it up. Yeah, we
[2:58:32] we'll go up there cuz I when I talk to
Jeff, he he's fine with it over there as
[2:58:36] long as Cliff and Trish can get home and
he can get it now, which the field's
[2:58:40] right there. So, not a big deal. There
is a safety issue of so dead I wouldn't
[2:58:47] want to even climb it or rope it because
it's going to snap. I don't It's It's
[2:58:52] made up by those carpenter hands so bad.
And I don't know. Like you said,
[2:59:00] everybody wants big bucks and it is a
big tree, but I mean
[2:59:05] » it's just
>> Yeah. And I mean, I've been mowing up
[2:59:10] there when blow and I pass my own and
then a limp, you know? I'm like, what?
[2:59:19] It's scary time. So,
>> all right. Well, I'll get it if you
[2:59:21] want.
>> Okay, we'll get that done. So, anything
[2:59:25] else on there? I didn't see any other
damage or anything. Okay.
[2:59:29] » So, Sharon cleaned up a lot of that.
Then, um some of the vandalism she took
[2:59:37] care of and and uh got I think um
[2:59:44] I can't say her name. She helped with
the preservation St. Genevie.
[2:59:49] You know what I'm talking
>> about
[2:59:53] cold
>> James
[2:59:55] » J
she was lift and replay putting them
[3:00:00] back on the pegs for the time being a
lot of them I mean
[3:00:05] the whole graveyard I've noticed land
shifting a lot around here and I don't
[3:00:10] know why
and we've had a lot of tombstone shift
[3:00:16] and
>> didn't you guys have like 12
[3:00:19] of rain at one time or something.
>> Is that going to stop?
[3:00:25] » Yeah. And I'm wondering if they just
create a void. The graveyard is so hard
[3:00:30] to cuz it caught fire at one time. So
the maps are not that great on the old
[3:00:35] side. That's old
by aces. So, but the newer side grows
[3:00:42] really fast for some reason. But yeah,
it's just it's it's odd how everything
[3:00:49] shipped and even the Didn't you say the
big one
[3:00:53] shops?
>> Yeah. Made major or
[3:00:57] » How old are those like 1700 1800s?
>> They didn't have any vaults. So, you
[3:01:03] know, back then it just
>> this is a big
[3:01:08] » it's like a
bridge
[3:01:12] [clears throat]
and shop was a big name. That was
[3:01:15] Colonel Shaw, wasn't it? Colonel up
there
[3:01:26] right there. some colonel
shot one of the founders with Roger in
[3:01:31] his town and
they're in the very back but that's on
[3:01:36] the Catholic side. I mean he's seen it.
So it's a shame.
[3:01:41] » I don't think there's any way to go and
sh that up or not.
[3:01:45] » I don't think
[3:01:49] but yeah other than that I mean I
haven't haven't heard anything just
[3:01:53] mode.
How did you guys today?
[3:01:58] » Okay. I know these guys are working like
crazy and I know it's a skeleton crew
[3:02:02] and it's being more efficient and the
rain doesn't help with the mowing. Trust
[3:02:08] me,
my yards high too.
[3:02:14] » Some people that are mowing don't follow
instructions and tell them to raise
[3:02:19] them, right? Yes.
>> And they left it low and butcher it out
[3:02:24] here,
you know. And it takes twice as much
[3:02:29] time.
[3:02:35] » Yeah, she she did and she break it and
then I'm like
[3:02:42] » Yeah, I need to interject something. You
guys are talking about Colonel Shaw.
[3:02:46] I've been in my car for 3 and 1/2 hours
and I have to take a leak and I have a 6
[3:02:51] and 1/2 hour drive yet. So, can we wrap
things up? Okay. Yeah, we're done.
[3:02:57] So, uh,
>> thank you.
[3:02:59] » Okay, doc. I'm sorry, buddy.
>> All right. Bye. [laughter]
[3:03:08] » All right. Since he's left, we're just
going to make a motion.
[3:03:14] » I
made all favor. All right.
[3:03:19] » And it goes
[3:03:23] that way.
>> All right.
[3:03:26] All right.