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This regularly scheduled
commission meeting

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of the city of St Pete Beach.

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It is Tuesday,
January 23rd, 2024.

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It is 6 PM.

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Let's stand for the
Pledge of Allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag
of the United States of America

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and to the Republic
for which it stands.

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One nation under
god, indivisible,

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with liberty and
justice for all.

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City clerk, if you will
please do a roll call.

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Vice mayor Lorenzen here.

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Commissioner Marriott.

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Here Commissioner Phillips here.

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Commissioner Resnick.

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Here mayor Petrica here.

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We have a quorum.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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First we have a
presentation of the employee

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of the first quarter.

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By Candace Galloway.

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Our administrator is going
to make that presentation.

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Afternoon evening, everyone.

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We're here to talk for a minute
about Ryan, who works in the IT

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department diligently, and he's
been here for about two years

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now he came to us with many,
many years of expertise

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under his belt in the
municipality format

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and otherwise very strong in
expertise in Microsoft voice

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platforms and all
things technology

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that serve us here at the city.

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About seven months after
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he became a team of one.

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So his boss left and Ryan
became the sole supporter

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for the entire city.

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And that includes everything
that plugs into a wall that

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has some technology component.

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He's on call.

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So hugely valuable
to the city for us.

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He services over
100 tickets a month

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himself, running from
location to location.

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Very busy guy with a lot to do.

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Some of you may have
seen him or you may not,

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but he's the person that
runs all of these meetings

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on our collective behalf.

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All the public meetings are
managed and run by Ryan.

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So phenomenal resource
for us over time and he's

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been a great resource as I've
onboarded since last January.

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I came here and I
was stopped regularly

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to be, you know, people
commending Ryan's experience,

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his demeanor most often, his
patience with their questions

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and what they need from him.

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Everyone has enjoyed
working with him

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and everybody appreciates
the attitude and work ethic

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that Ryan brings to the table.

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So he's actually been nominated
for this award many times.

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So that should say something
in and of itself that folks,

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you know, he is a consistent
producer and performer

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for the city, but he's
also just a solid asset

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from a day to day perspective.

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So as I mentioned, he's a
strong expert in technology,

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but he's also a
dedicated individual.

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He is consistent.

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He's very focused on his work
and the customer outcomes

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and ensuring that he solves
the problems that are at hand

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in a very quick fashion.

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If he can't figure
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he keeps cool under
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goes back to his desk and sorts
out a solution that may, may

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or may not work and comes back
to solve the problem for you

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and pretty quick fashion.

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So, you know, from
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I onboarded and he was
very patient with me.

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There were a lot of things
about municipality work

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that I had to get
up to speed with,

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and he's been a huge asset
for that from my perspective

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as well.

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So just a huge resource for us.

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Very happy to have him,
glad that he's acknowledged

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in this capacity, big
contribution for the city

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in an ongoing basis.

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So we're proud of him.

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Congratulations,
Ryan, and we're just

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happy to have him on the team.

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And Ryan would come out if
he wasn't stuck in a cubicle

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running this meeting.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Do we have any amendments
to the agenda, please?

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Yes, mayor, I have one.

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Um, I'd like to pull
item five B. I have

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some additional
questions that I need

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to meet with the
company on that,

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so I'd like to pull
that item for tonight.

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Bring it back at a later date.

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Thank you, mayor.

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Yes, I did receive one person
that wanted to sign up.

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John, since it's being pulled,
did you still want to provide

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comment or wait until.

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OK I just wanted to
make sure you knew.

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OK Thank you, mayor.

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The only other thing
I would mention

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is that we did get a request
from the attorney for seven b,

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which is a quasi
judicial hearing

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on a conditional use permit
asking for a continuance.

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Brandon that's right.

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Right still correct?

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Yeah and I don't know if you
want to take care of that

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up front in case people
are here for that item,

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we would re notice
it and schedule it

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for another meeting.

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We can move that to right
after audience comments.

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OK, perfect.

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Thank you.

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So that's seven b?

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Yes, sir.

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Yes, sir.

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Come here.

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Yes I also wanted to add
an item for discussion

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about attendance
for the commission.

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For me.

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Particular for time off
day and meeting in Zoom.

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So just a discussion,
I would like to add.

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So the attorney that we're
going to have a discussion

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about a date for the next.

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Yes, we can put it
as a discussion item

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or I was going to bring
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but we can make it
a discussion item.

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So I guess that would be C like
eight C the executive session.

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Thank you.

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Any other amendments?

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Mayor, I'd like to
add a discussion item,

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possible action item
regarding accommodations

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for the special city commission
meeting on February 21.

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I've received some
concerns from residents

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about having enough space
and alternative options

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potentially.

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OK all right.

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And the other amendments.

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Do we have a motion to
approve the agenda as amended?

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I move to approve the
agenda as amended.

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I second.

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City clerk do you feel
pleased to a roll call?

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Commissioner marriott?

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Yes commissioner Felts.

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Yes commissioner Reznik.

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Yes vice mayor Lorenzo.

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Yes mayor Petrica.

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Yes motion carries.

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Thank you.

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Do we have any
audience comments?

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Tom Rask.

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If you'll please state your
name and address for the record.

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Tom Rask unincorporated.

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Tom Rask unincorporated
Pinellas County.

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You just had an
executive session inside

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of a open meeting and that
did not adhere to the CLIA

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requirements of the statute,
which means that the meeting

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was out of the sunshine
and any meeting,

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the cure for any Sunshine
Law violation is clear.

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You disclose the contents of
the meeting, you will see here

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and the material
that's on the screen

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is it says all meetings at which
official action will be taken

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are declared to be
public meetings.

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And you go down here,
there's an exception

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for executive session provided
that the following conditions

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are met.

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Those conditions were not met.

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And I gave the city
attorney and the mayor

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a folder laying this out
after the executive session.

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Let's look at the notice
for your April 26th, 2022,

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almost two years ago.

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Executive session there.

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The meeting, the special meeting
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noticed and I wish it would have
said notice of, but it didn't.

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But both were noticed.

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Now look at the
notice for today.

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There's that word notice.

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Thank you.

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It appears.

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But notice of
executive session only.

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So therefore, the meeting, the
open meeting was not noticed.

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The executive session was opened
inside of the open meeting.

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There's another problem that
occurred during the meeting,

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and that is that the city
attorney did not follow what

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the statute requires,
which is that the city

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attorney, the entity's
attorney, shall advise

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the entity at a public meeting
that he or she desires advice

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concerning the litigation.

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That did not happen.

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That also did not happen at
your meeting two years ago.

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Here are the minutes.

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Nowhere does it say it again.

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You get to keep the
records exempt, provided

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that the following
conditions are met.

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They were not met.

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I talked to the city
attorney briefly

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here between the previous
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and I said, look it over.

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Uh, I hope you'll see it my way.

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So we can avoid a lawsuit.

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Because if you just simply
disclose in the sunshine,

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preferably tonight what occurred
at the executive session, then

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we can avoid a lawsuit.

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Public records lawsuits
require five days notice.

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Chapter 286 lawsuits do not.

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So I hope the city attorney
has looked it over.

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I hope that at least some of
the members of this commission

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will now ask the
tough questions.

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And by the way, I have no
idea whether the entity that

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has sued you over
the commission,

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whether it's lawfully seated,
whether they think this what

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I'm doing now is a good idea.

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I don't care.

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I'm all about the process.

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City did not follow the process.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Do we have any other
audience comments?

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John kurzman.

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If you'll please state your
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John kurzman.

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On the way South.

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Good I just wanted to talk
briefly about the flood

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ordinance, because
at the last meeting

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it wasn't an action
item, so there

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was no comments, which
means that we're still back

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at what was decided at
the prior meeting, which

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was that eventually there will
be some sort of open community

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meeting where people can
talk publicly and ask

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questions and discuss it.

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If you're really
going to move ahead,

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I hope you don't
move ahead on it.

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But if you do, just some quick
reasons why there's a concern.

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And one of the big concerns was
that the whole reason that FEMA

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entices people to raise their
houses or one of the ways

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they entice them is they say,
well, if you raise your house,

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you won't have to follow
the 50% rule anymore.

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But the way this new
ordinance was written,

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it doesn't make it clear
that that's the case.

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So if you even look
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for fema, substantial
improvement package requiring

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all structures built prior to
1971, because automatically,

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if they were built
prior to 71, they

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would not have been compliant.

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Or then you go
through the process.

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Also houses are
already grandfathered.

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So there was talk about in that
first meeting that you could

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this was to help save
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on their insurance.

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Well, according to the
fema, once you're in

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and you're compliant,
even if the rules change,

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the ratings change, you
are still going to have

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your insurance preserved.

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So at least that's the
way the current FEMA

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documents appear to be written.

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Next, there was a
question about, well,

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how much will we save if we
go through all these hoops?

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We change all these rules
which could affect people

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and cost them a lot of money.

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What will it save us?

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Well, I looked at the community
status report for Florida.

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There's 500
communities in Florida.

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Only 250 of them are in FEMA.

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We're a category six,
as was discussed.

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If you go to category
five, we save 5%

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If you go to category
four, you save

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another 5% That's your savings.

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Secondly, if you look
and I put a spreadsheet

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together on a calculated how
many there are, there's only.

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Here's a spreadsheet.

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If we were going to be if
we get ourselves to category

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four, which we were told was
the goal, to go up two levels,

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we would be in the
top five communities

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in the entire state.

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There's only four communities
in the entire state of Florida

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that are category 4 or better.

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Do we really think that our
existing community could,

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could really do that?

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That's a lot of work.

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So I just think that
we need to start slowly

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try to get to maybe
category 5 and really

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think about what the cost and
the impact to the citizens are.

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In trying to do this.

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You need to understand
what those costs are.

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Also, there was
talk about saying

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that the floodplain
administrator

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could use any map.

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That just sounds like anarchy.

302
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We have to pick what map
is used for each property.

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And it mentioned
the Pinellas map.

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And the Pinellas map
says 2040, 20, 72,100.

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And, you know, you
got to pick which

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model you're going to use.

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Thank you, sir.

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Just stick to FEMA.

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So thank you very much.

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Thank you.

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City clerk to any other
audience comments.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Next, we have item 7 B.
Quasi judicial hearing

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and resolution 2020 324.

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00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:17,720
Hi Tim Driscoll
Driscoll law firm 146

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second street, North St Pete.

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310 As the city
attorney stated, we

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are asking for a
continuance of this matter

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till March 26 at 6:00 PM.

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A date certain, and
we would request

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that you make that continuance.

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Thank you also.

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So if you all don't know,
he used to be the city

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attorney for Saint Pete Beach.

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Yes, I was for back
in 2004 to 2007.

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Worked worked with at
the mayor at that time

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was warden for chilowsky,
who was on this commission

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until recently.

330
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So is there a reason
for the continuance?

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Well, Yes.

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The pending lawsuit regarding
the makeup of the commission,

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I believe, will be
resolved, at least

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as it pertains to districts
1 and 3 by that date.

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And so that's why
we're asking for that.

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And then hopefully
between now and that date,

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the remaining issues in that
lawsuit will be resolved.

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So we don't want to
have any approval that

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could be jeopardized by the
makeup of the commission,

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quite frankly.

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So that's the basis
for our request.

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00:18:27,690 --> 00:18:31,170
OK And you do
understand that district

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1 and 3 are not in contention?

344
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I do.

345
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OK I do.

346
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Just because that's
a recent development.

347
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So yes, exactly.

348
00:18:40,810 --> 00:18:41,950
No, I do know that.

349
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And it doesn't change my opinion
about the validity issues.

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So sounds good.

351
00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,070
Any questions or comments?

352
00:18:52,070 --> 00:18:53,630
Do we have a motion?

353
00:18:53,630 --> 00:18:56,270
I do have one public comment.

354
00:18:56,270 --> 00:18:57,890
I have one person
signed up to speak,

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00:18:57,890 --> 00:19:00,680
but I'd like to read the
title into the record, please.

356
00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:05,030
Certainly resolution 2324,
a resolution of the city

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commission of the city of
St Pete beach, Florida,

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approving a conditional use
permit pursuant to Section 35.3

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Perron B Perron three of the
land development code to allow

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the permanent establishment
of a semi pervious commercial

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parking lot at parcel
number 063216081180000470

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00:19:25,670 --> 00:19:29,670
with an address of
5090 Gulf Boulevard.

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Incorporating the
conditions outlined herein

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and providing for
correction of scrivener's

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error and an effective date.

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And I do have Kim Peterson
signed up to speak.

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00:19:40,570 --> 00:19:42,200
I do have a question.

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00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:47,180
Is on the issue of
continuance or not?

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00:19:47,180 --> 00:19:48,270
No OK.

370
00:19:48,270 --> 00:19:49,620
OK all right.

371
00:19:49,620 --> 00:19:50,900
I just wanted to ask.

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00:19:50,900 --> 00:19:51,630
Great Thank you.

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00:19:51,630 --> 00:19:52,680
City clerk.

374
00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,050
Thank you, commissioner.

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00:19:55,050 --> 00:20:00,060
My question is how I'm a
little confused as to one

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thing relating to the
other and why you would

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feel that it would be done.

378
00:20:06,330 --> 00:20:09,150
One issue that doesn't
relate to yours and that

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would make it better in March.

380
00:20:11,910 --> 00:20:15,600
Well, you have four
seats that are in doubt

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because of a pending lawsuit.

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So in my opinion, after the
election date, the scheduled

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election date in march,
two of those seats

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are no longer in doubt.

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So that means you have
at least three seats that

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are under no cloud whatsoever.

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The remaining two seats
still are under that cloud.

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Unless that gets
resolved, it's our hope

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that you get that
resolved by March 26th,

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and we can be comfortable
that we have a full, fully

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seated five duly
elected commissioners

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or duly appointed in some cases.

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00:20:58,870 --> 00:21:01,420
Is it OK if we all have
a discussion about this?

395
00:21:01,420 --> 00:21:02,270
Sure sure.

396
00:21:02,270 --> 00:21:10,660
I mean, the decision of 1
you're basing and I'm talking,

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00:21:10,660 --> 00:21:13,900
I guess, to the commission,
I don't know if you all

398
00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:15,460
have questions
about this or not,

399
00:21:15,460 --> 00:21:21,760
but I don't see how one
relates to the other.

400
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,960
You know, currently is
that location still running

401
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,620
a business as a parking?

402
00:21:27,620 --> 00:21:29,140
So they're waiting
for this approval?

403
00:21:29,140 --> 00:21:31,310
Yeah, there's nothing going
on currently right now.

404
00:21:31,310 --> 00:21:36,520
They're willing to sacrifice
that to get through this issue.

405
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:43,570
OK now, is there outstanding
I want to say citations,

406
00:21:43,570 --> 00:21:46,600
but I know that there
was issues at that lot

407
00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:47,780
that haven't been addressed.

408
00:21:47,780 --> 00:21:52,030
So, I mean, I don't think it's
a justice to the residents

409
00:21:52,030 --> 00:21:54,640
to wait off on something
when there's something that

410
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,860
may still be pending
that, you know,

411
00:21:56,860 --> 00:21:58,920
I really wanted to get into.

412
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,900
So I just want to
have that discussion.

413
00:22:02,900 --> 00:22:05,630
I can tell you that there are
no current citations or anything

414
00:22:05,630 --> 00:22:06,505
against the property.

415
00:22:06,505 --> 00:22:15,220


416
00:22:15,220 --> 00:22:17,090
I want to make sure I
understand what's on the table.

417
00:22:17,090 --> 00:22:19,300
So are we basically
discussing whether we

418
00:22:19,300 --> 00:22:21,700
approve or disapprove
a continuation

419
00:22:21,700 --> 00:22:24,560
in lieu of some other movement?

420
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,600
Correct Yes.

421
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,290
OK the request is to
continue the item to March.

422
00:22:30,290 --> 00:22:34,180


423
00:22:34,180 --> 00:22:38,830
I think that as in this
instance where, you know,

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they're looking for
approval for a use that

425
00:22:41,650 --> 00:22:43,910
is currently not being used.

426
00:22:43,910 --> 00:22:46,570
You know, there's nothing
happening on that lot

427
00:22:46,570 --> 00:22:49,240
that you would need
permission for currently

428
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:55,150
that if their request
is for the continuance,

429
00:22:55,150 --> 00:22:58,120
regardless of any of
our personal feelings

430
00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:01,030
about the validity of the
reason for the request,

431
00:23:01,030 --> 00:23:06,370
I don't know that there's any
real compelling reason to not

432
00:23:06,370 --> 00:23:10,240
grant that if that's what
the property owner is wishing

433
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,060
well based on what he said.

434
00:23:13,060 --> 00:23:14,930
Sorry that's OK.

435
00:23:14,930 --> 00:23:16,380
But what you said is.

436
00:23:16,380 --> 00:23:19,150


437
00:23:19,150 --> 00:23:21,340
The validity of and
I'm assuming you're

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00:23:21,340 --> 00:23:23,890
waiting to March because
that's when the election

439
00:23:23,890 --> 00:23:25,310
would have taken place.

440
00:23:25,310 --> 00:23:28,060
But we also have an election
that's coming in August,

441
00:23:28,060 --> 00:23:30,740
right, because there's two
appointed positions here.

442
00:23:30,740 --> 00:23:33,680
So why March and not august?

443
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,960
Well, August would probably
be better, but march,

444
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,870
we don't want to push it
out that far is really

445
00:23:40,870 --> 00:23:41,990
the short answer to that.

446
00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:47,020
We'd rather just it's already
going to impede them somewhat,

447
00:23:47,020 --> 00:23:48,610
not to be able to
use the parking

448
00:23:48,610 --> 00:23:52,340
lot in the beginning of March
when the spring break begins.

449
00:23:52,340 --> 00:23:54,410
So they're already
going to sacrifice that.

450
00:23:54,410 --> 00:23:56,530
I don't think that they
can afford to sacrifice

451
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all the way out to August.

452
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,600
So this is a compromise
between before,

453
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,520
you know, between doing
that and going in March.

454
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,480
And we still hope that
this will get resolved.

455
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,260
And our hope is that
in the next two months,

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00:24:11,260 --> 00:24:13,540
we'll get some resolution
and this will no

457
00:24:13,540 --> 00:24:15,320
longer be an issue for anyone.

458
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,140
And this is just my opinion.

459
00:24:17,140 --> 00:24:18,980
You vote for this
continuance, you're

460
00:24:18,980 --> 00:24:21,440
not agreeing with anything
that I'm saying with regard

461
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,080
to this other matter that has
nothing to do with this matter,

462
00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,470
as you correctly pointed out.

463
00:24:25,470 --> 00:24:28,820
So we're just asking you to give
us this reasonable continuance

464
00:24:28,820 --> 00:24:32,420
to allow us to have more
faith that the decision

465
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will continue to be upheld.

466
00:24:35,660 --> 00:24:37,130
Now, from my
understanding, we don't

467
00:24:37,130 --> 00:24:39,440
have to give the continuance.

468
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,170
And again, I'm basing
this off of the reason

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why you're requesting it.

470
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471
00:24:46,550 --> 00:24:48,410
From that reason,
there are still

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two seats then that were
appointed that wouldn't

473
00:24:51,950 --> 00:24:53,610
be addressed till August.

474
00:24:53,610 --> 00:24:57,080
So I still don't see and
the financial hardship

475
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,580
or whatever the reason
why spring break is coming

476
00:24:59,580 --> 00:25:01,950
is not the point.

477
00:25:01,950 --> 00:25:07,220
You know, if that's the reason,
then why not wait till august?

478
00:25:07,220 --> 00:25:08,070
Well, we could.

479
00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:10,610
But again, at that
matter, because you're

480
00:25:10,610 --> 00:25:18,950
six months out, you know, if
you know, I'll leave it at that.

481
00:25:18,950 --> 00:25:20,220
Mr mayor, if I could.

482
00:25:20,220 --> 00:25:23,270
Certainly I see the validity
of both your concerns

483
00:25:23,270 --> 00:25:25,050
and Commissioner Marriott.

484
00:25:25,050 --> 00:25:27,890
Personally, after
listening to everybody,

485
00:25:27,890 --> 00:25:30,840
I don't have any issues
with continuing this.

486
00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,220
That's my opinion.

487
00:25:32,220 --> 00:25:34,520
Subject to a vote.

488
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,060
And just to be clear, I
mean, I know he's attorney

489
00:25:38,060 --> 00:25:40,640
Driscoll's mentioning
a date, but it

490
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:42,210
would have to be re-advertised.

491
00:25:42,210 --> 00:25:47,160
So, you know, we
typically don't continue

492
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,280
things constantly to a
date certain to avoid

493
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,190
advertisements.

494
00:25:51,190 --> 00:25:53,500
So this one would have
to be re-advertised.

495
00:25:53,500 --> 00:25:54,640
And we understand that.

496
00:25:54,640 --> 00:26:00,835
OK do we have a motion?

497
00:26:00,835 --> 00:26:03,920


498
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:10,310
I'll make a motion to approve
continuation of resolution.

499
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:11,400
What do we have here?

500
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,420
Conditional use permit
2369 and variance

501
00:26:14,420 --> 00:26:19,790
23 068 59 de Gaulle Boulevard.

502
00:26:19,790 --> 00:26:22,120
Do we have a second?

503
00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:26,740
Second did you want to?

504
00:26:26,740 --> 00:26:30,820
I don't know if you would
just add that March 26th date.

505
00:26:30,820 --> 00:26:32,050
That would be great.

506
00:26:32,050 --> 00:26:34,570
He's seeking to be
heard on March 26.

507
00:26:34,570 --> 00:26:37,920
So if you want to
amend your motion,

508
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,310
is that a committee
meeting already scheduled?

509
00:26:41,310 --> 00:26:42,400
That's a commission date.

510
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:43,890
That's a commission
meeting date.

511
00:26:43,890 --> 00:26:46,650
Yeah, I'll amend that
motion to approve

512
00:26:46,650 --> 00:26:48,930
what I've already
said to continue

513
00:26:48,930 --> 00:26:52,050
that until March 26th, 2024.

514
00:26:52,050 --> 00:26:53,710
Do we have a second
for the amendment?

515
00:26:53,710 --> 00:26:58,380
Second So we're
going to vote on just

516
00:26:58,380 --> 00:27:00,900
the Amendment to the
main motion on the floor

517
00:27:00,900 --> 00:27:02,970
like Mayor had just said.

518
00:27:02,970 --> 00:27:07,230
So the Amendment is to
add the March 26th, 2024.

519
00:27:07,230 --> 00:27:08,700
Commissioner Fultz.

520
00:27:08,700 --> 00:27:10,710
Yes commissioner Reznik.

521
00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:13,560
No vice mayor Lorenzen Yes.

522
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:15,160
Commissioner Marriott Yes.

523
00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:15,940
Mayor Petrella.

524
00:27:15,940 --> 00:27:17,440
Yes motion carries.

525
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,760
Thank you and roll call
for the actual motion.

526
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,640
So the main motion,
commissioner Reznik pardon?

527
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,340
I'm sorry.

528
00:27:27,340 --> 00:27:29,610
I was now voting on
the motion to approve

529
00:27:29,610 --> 00:27:31,560
the continuation
for the case number

530
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,690
and address to March 26th.

531
00:27:33,690 --> 00:27:35,980
No vice mayor Lorenzen.

532
00:27:35,980 --> 00:27:37,570
Yes commissioner Marriott.

533
00:27:37,570 --> 00:27:38,770
Yes commissioner Fultz.

534
00:27:38,770 --> 00:27:40,030
Yes mayor Petrella.

535
00:27:40,030 --> 00:27:41,260
Yes motion carries.

536
00:27:41,260 --> 00:27:42,305
Thank you all very much.

537
00:27:42,305 --> 00:27:46,170


538
00:27:46,170 --> 00:27:50,400
Next we have item
five, a appointments

539
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,290
to outside agencies.

540
00:27:52,290 --> 00:27:53,165
City clerk.

541
00:27:53,165 --> 00:27:55,873


542
00:27:55,873 --> 00:27:56,440
Thank you, mayor.

543
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,880
So as we discussed
at the last meeting,

544
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,380
this is something
that we bring up

545
00:28:01,380 --> 00:28:03,310
typically after the election.

546
00:28:03,310 --> 00:28:07,260
And I've listed out all of
the different outside agencies

547
00:28:07,260 --> 00:28:12,100
and leave it up to you all
to discuss who can do what.

548
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:15,905
And and I will make that chart.

549
00:28:15,905 --> 00:28:18,790


550
00:28:18,790 --> 00:28:21,940
Well, I'll be the
canary in the mine here.

551
00:28:21,940 --> 00:28:25,210
I kind of looked at how
the previous commission

552
00:28:25,210 --> 00:28:27,610
did things, mostly with
respect to the mayor

553
00:28:27,610 --> 00:28:29,470
and the vice mayor.

554
00:28:29,470 --> 00:28:32,230
So I would throw
out on the table

555
00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:36,460
that I could become the
alternate for the mayor

556
00:28:36,460 --> 00:28:41,410
on the big see, be the
representative for the FLC

557
00:28:41,410 --> 00:28:47,800
and be the alternate for the
mic pc, if that makes sense.

558
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,420
Mayor, if I may.

559
00:28:49,420 --> 00:28:51,580
Certainly I'd be
interested in the Tampa

560
00:28:51,580 --> 00:28:56,830
Bay regional Planning Council
as far as the representative.

561
00:28:56,830 --> 00:29:02,120
OK and I would be interested
in the flood insurance.

562
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:02,800
And I would.

563
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,120
And second on the league if
someone else takes primary.

564
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,650


565
00:29:08,650 --> 00:29:09,410
So what is that?

566
00:29:09,410 --> 00:29:13,780
That leaves the Suncoast league
of cities spot for the primary,

567
00:29:13,780 --> 00:29:14,740
I believe.

568
00:29:14,740 --> 00:29:17,170
And I would be fine
with that If if I'm

569
00:29:17,170 --> 00:29:19,270
hearing everyone correctly.

570
00:29:19,270 --> 00:29:20,000
I think that's.

571
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,300
Yep, Yep.

572
00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:23,970
City clerk did you
catch all that?

573
00:29:23,970 --> 00:29:29,020
OK, so I have the mayor
is the primary for big C

574
00:29:29,020 --> 00:29:32,860
and mayors council obviously
with the understanding

575
00:29:32,860 --> 00:29:36,220
that for now, vice
mayor you're going

576
00:29:36,220 --> 00:29:40,510
to be attending the
big c, but you will be

577
00:29:40,510 --> 00:29:43,420
documented as the alternative.

578
00:29:43,420 --> 00:29:47,360
Then I have you're
also a vice mayor.

579
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,750
You're also, as the
representative on Florida

580
00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:52,450
league of cities
and the alternate

581
00:29:52,450 --> 00:29:54,140
for the mayors council.

582
00:29:54,140 --> 00:29:56,890
Commissioner fields, you will
be the primary for Tampa Bay

583
00:29:56,890 --> 00:30:00,640
Regional and
Commissioner Resnick

584
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:06,620
or the flood insurance rep
and Commissioner Marriott.

585
00:30:06,620 --> 00:30:09,110
You are on the Pinellas County.

586
00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:10,040
No, sorry.

587
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,640
You're on the Southern
Coast league of cities.

588
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:21,430
Yes so what do you guys want to
do for alternates for the big C

589
00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:22,880
is the only one that we have.

590
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,420
And mayors council
for me was the Florida

591
00:30:25,420 --> 00:30:27,751
league of cities for alternate.

592
00:30:27,751 --> 00:30:30,700


593
00:30:30,700 --> 00:30:33,470
Anybody for the Tampa Bay
regional Planning Council.

594
00:30:33,470 --> 00:30:34,710
Sure OK.

595
00:30:34,710 --> 00:30:42,310


596
00:30:42,310 --> 00:30:46,360
So that leaves Pinellas
County Flood insurance.

597
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,350
I can be an alternate
for that one.

598
00:30:48,350 --> 00:30:52,260


599
00:30:52,260 --> 00:30:56,400
Suncoast won league of cities.

600
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,340
Who wants to be the
alternate for that?

601
00:30:58,340 --> 00:31:02,920


602
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:09,650
Flood you don't want to have to.

603
00:31:09,650 --> 00:31:12,590
OK which was the
one that you needed.

604
00:31:12,590 --> 00:31:16,240
Suncoast I can do that one
too, if you want to put a name.

605
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:25,430


606
00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:26,900
All right.

607
00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:30,170
So then I just need a motion to
approve the board appointments,

608
00:31:30,170 --> 00:31:31,226
as discussed.

609
00:31:31,226 --> 00:31:34,990


610
00:31:34,990 --> 00:31:38,680
I move to approve the board
appointments as discussed.

611
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:39,850
I second.

612
00:31:39,850 --> 00:31:41,860
City clerk, if you'll
please do a roll call.

613
00:31:41,860 --> 00:31:43,390
Commissioner reznik?

614
00:31:43,390 --> 00:31:45,470
Yes vice mayor Lorenzen.

615
00:31:45,470 --> 00:31:47,210
Yes commissioner Marriott.

616
00:31:47,210 --> 00:31:48,500
Yes Commissioner Phillips.

617
00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:49,770
Yes mayor Petrica.

618
00:31:49,770 --> 00:31:51,210
Yes motion carries.

619
00:31:51,210 --> 00:31:52,900
Thank you.

620
00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:57,520
Next, we have resolutions
seven, a resolution 2023 23

621
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,750
public records requests policy.

622
00:31:59,750 --> 00:32:01,690
City clerk.

623
00:32:01,690 --> 00:32:02,600
Thank you, mayor.

624
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,030
Resolution 20 2323.

625
00:32:05,030 --> 00:32:06,460
A resolution of
the city commission

626
00:32:06,460 --> 00:32:08,210
of the city of St
Pete beach, Florida.

627
00:32:08,210 --> 00:32:11,140
Finding the necessity to adopt
a policy and fee schedule

628
00:32:11,140 --> 00:32:13,150
concerning public
records requests

629
00:32:13,150 --> 00:32:14,960
consistent with
Florida statutes.

630
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,790
Chapter 119 providing
for definitions

631
00:32:18,790 --> 00:32:21,910
of applicable public records,
providing for a basic fee

632
00:32:21,910 --> 00:32:23,800
schedule for
production of copies,

633
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,470
providing for a reasonable
special service charge when

634
00:32:26,470 --> 00:32:29,230
applicable, providing
for severability,

635
00:32:29,230 --> 00:32:31,180
conflict, correction
of scrivener's error

636
00:32:31,180 --> 00:32:33,860
and an effective date.

637
00:32:33,860 --> 00:32:35,420
Thank you.

638
00:32:35,420 --> 00:32:41,570
So this public records policy
is something that the city

639
00:32:41,570 --> 00:32:43,260
has had since I came on board.

640
00:32:43,260 --> 00:32:47,000
I wrote a policy, but I wanted
it to be more formally adopted

641
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,130
and that's why I'm
bringing it forward

642
00:32:49,130 --> 00:32:50,950
in the form of a resolution.

643
00:32:50,950 --> 00:32:56,210
I've prepared a training
PowerPoint with a test

644
00:32:56,210 --> 00:33:00,020
that, I will hand out to the
employees if this gets adopted.

645
00:33:00,020 --> 00:33:02,240
And then I would like
to do that every year

646
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,470
with the current employees.

647
00:33:04,470 --> 00:33:07,520
And then of course, when
new hires are on board.

648
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:12,260
So it just follows the statute
and our current practice

649
00:33:12,260 --> 00:33:12,760
as well.

650
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,590


651
00:33:16,590 --> 00:33:19,880
Questions or comments.

652
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,070
Yeah, if I can.

653
00:33:21,070 --> 00:33:25,070
City clerk is there
anything materially

654
00:33:25,070 --> 00:33:28,400
that changes this
from the resolution

655
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,650
that it's superseding?

656
00:33:30,650 --> 00:33:33,530
So the prior
resolution, the policy

657
00:33:33,530 --> 00:33:40,280
did not include we did not
use just FOIA platform then

658
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:46,460
and it didn't go into depth
on the process for redactions

659
00:33:46,460 --> 00:33:49,530
and the types of public
records requests.

660
00:33:49,530 --> 00:33:53,090
It was more of a records
management policy

661
00:33:53,090 --> 00:33:56,930
with some tie-in of the statute
regarding the definition

662
00:33:56,930 --> 00:34:00,320
of what a public record is,
that ultimately the clerk's

663
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,470
office or myself is designated
as the public records custodian

664
00:34:03,470 --> 00:34:05,340
because we have to
do that per statute.

665
00:34:05,340 --> 00:34:08,810
However, this also
articulates to the employees

666
00:34:08,810 --> 00:34:11,340
that you are also
custodian of your record.

667
00:34:11,340 --> 00:34:13,320
Like I'm not everywhere, right?

668
00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,250
So if someone were to come
in to the permit office

669
00:34:16,250 --> 00:34:19,440
and want a copy of their permit,
I mean, they can essentially

670
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,630
do that and not have to
contact me because they are

671
00:34:21,630 --> 00:34:23,260
the custodian of that record.

672
00:34:23,260 --> 00:34:25,360
So it kind of talks
about that stuff.

673
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,150
The fees that was same as prior.

674
00:34:28,150 --> 00:34:31,620
I did change the copy data
for the USB flash drive

675
00:34:31,620 --> 00:34:36,580
and the CD prior, you know,
dated CDs were more of a thing.

676
00:34:36,580 --> 00:34:39,940
And now you're not supposed
to be charging to make money.

677
00:34:39,940 --> 00:34:41,469
You're supposed to
be the actual cost.

678
00:34:41,469 --> 00:34:45,780
So it's $0.50 and $3 for a
USB and that's very rare,

679
00:34:45,780 --> 00:34:47,800
but everything else
is per statute.

680
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:52,420
Also, this one is talks
about special service charge.

681
00:34:52,420 --> 00:34:55,540
So the prior policy
was 15 minutes.

682
00:34:55,540 --> 00:34:59,280
So anything over 15 minutes,
we charged the hourly rate

683
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,600
of the lowest paid
employee that's

684
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:03,310
competent enough to complete
the public records request.

685
00:35:03,310 --> 00:35:05,710
I don't particularly like that.

686
00:35:05,710 --> 00:35:09,120
I think that public records
fulfillment is part of your job

687
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,760
as a public officer,
and it's what you

688
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,030
do when you're in government.

689
00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:16,180
So I upped it to 30 minutes.

690
00:35:16,180 --> 00:35:17,910
I feel like that's
pretty reasonable.

691
00:35:17,910 --> 00:35:21,210
Most records requests can
occur within 30 minutes

692
00:35:21,210 --> 00:35:24,520
and we don't charge
anything 30 minutes or less.

693
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,670
So we also have
identified that in here

694
00:35:26,670 --> 00:35:28,830
and that is a change too.

695
00:35:28,830 --> 00:35:33,590
Thanks city clerk.

696
00:35:33,590 --> 00:35:34,280
I apologize.

697
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,770
I had a little trouble
hearing all of that

698
00:35:35,770 --> 00:35:37,910
because you're way over in
the corner pocket there.

699
00:35:37,910 --> 00:35:42,490
Sorry so other than adding a
few items to the fee schedule,

700
00:35:42,490 --> 00:35:44,590
are there any big
price changes or.

701
00:35:44,590 --> 00:35:45,670
OK Thank you.

702
00:35:45,670 --> 00:35:47,600
No, nothing increased.

703
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:48,680
OK Nope.

704
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:53,690


705
00:35:53,690 --> 00:35:54,630
Any further comments.

706
00:35:54,630 --> 00:35:56,340
Discussions audience comments.

707
00:35:56,340 --> 00:35:57,170
I have no cards.

708
00:35:57,170 --> 00:35:59,430
Yes oh, I'm sorry, John.

709
00:35:59,430 --> 00:36:01,680
You can fill this
out while I was OK.

710
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,330
John kurzman, come to the floor.

711
00:36:05,330 --> 00:36:08,510
Come on down.

712
00:36:08,510 --> 00:36:09,900
I support this change.

713
00:36:09,900 --> 00:36:11,280
And, you know, I
think it's important.

714
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:11,850
Of course not.

715
00:36:11,850 --> 00:36:14,390
Please state your name and
address for the record.

716
00:36:14,390 --> 00:36:17,770
John kurzman, 5810
Highlander way South.

717
00:36:17,770 --> 00:36:18,270
Thank you, sir.

718
00:36:18,270 --> 00:36:21,830
I'm not speaking on behalf
of the beach stewards.

719
00:36:21,830 --> 00:36:23,510
One thing I just
want to mention,

720
00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:26,780
though, is that
there's public records

721
00:36:26,780 --> 00:36:30,020
that you have to
request via this FOA

722
00:36:30,020 --> 00:36:31,500
that sometimes you
wouldn't realize.

723
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:34,280
I mean, I've asked questions
just about my home,

724
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,770
and I think it was the building
department or someone said,

725
00:36:36,770 --> 00:36:39,300
OK, well, I just have to put
that in through the FOIA.

726
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:41,060
It's a public records request.

727
00:36:41,060 --> 00:36:46,310
And then I've sent in letters,
communications with people

728
00:36:46,310 --> 00:36:49,730
due to the city commission
and for instance,

729
00:36:49,730 --> 00:36:52,190
things that were sent
to the city commission

730
00:36:52,190 --> 00:36:57,510
are in the public record, but
they're not up on the website

731
00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:59,520
where people can see it.

732
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,300
So I had sent in my
presentation about flood

733
00:37:03,300 --> 00:37:06,360
management for a prior
meeting, but it's

734
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,480
nowhere on the website.

735
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,350
So for anyone who ever wanted
to even know that it existed,

736
00:37:10,350 --> 00:37:13,330
they would have to do a
public records request.

737
00:37:13,330 --> 00:37:16,090
And it seems like that
would be extra work.

738
00:37:16,090 --> 00:37:19,380
So it's my suggestion that
maybe it would be less work

739
00:37:19,380 --> 00:37:21,490
and it's just related
to the spirit of this.

740
00:37:21,490 --> 00:37:23,190
If there was some
way that the things

741
00:37:23,190 --> 00:37:24,570
that are sent to
the city commission

742
00:37:24,570 --> 00:37:27,630
or the various commissions
for our public meetings

743
00:37:27,630 --> 00:37:29,790
and also in the spirit
of the Sunshine Act

744
00:37:29,790 --> 00:37:32,100
that we're trying
to know, if there's

745
00:37:32,100 --> 00:37:33,990
a communication that's
being made to everyone

746
00:37:33,990 --> 00:37:35,580
who is on a commission.

747
00:37:35,580 --> 00:37:39,130
Yes, it's in the public record
if someone knows to ask for it.

748
00:37:39,130 --> 00:37:41,580
But maybe it would be
nice if this information

749
00:37:41,580 --> 00:37:43,720
would get instead because
we have a great website.

750
00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:44,590
It's amazing.

751
00:37:44,590 --> 00:37:46,470
I mean, it's better
than any website

752
00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:49,450
I've ever seen for a public
community already, really.

753
00:37:49,450 --> 00:37:52,530
But if there's some way we could
also have the communications

754
00:37:52,530 --> 00:37:56,720
because also, as an example, the
most recent thing when I just

755
00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:59,210
went into address foia,
and this is fantastic too,

756
00:37:59,210 --> 00:38:01,880
that you can go and do a
search of what every other FOIA

757
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,150
request has been.

758
00:38:03,150 --> 00:38:05,750
So before I went and did
a request for freebie,

759
00:38:05,750 --> 00:38:09,120
for instance, I went in and
did a search on anybody else,

760
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,700
had done a freebie request.

761
00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:12,050
Unfortunately, I
didn't know freebie was

762
00:38:12,050 --> 00:38:14,130
two words, so I didn't find it.

763
00:38:14,130 --> 00:38:17,210
But but, you know, so people
could do that too, to take

764
00:38:17,210 --> 00:38:19,050
the load off of the staff.

765
00:38:19,050 --> 00:38:21,120
Always they could search first.

766
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,640
But so what I'm getting at is
that we have this great tool,

767
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,890
but when I look at Serrata,
which we all were told to do

768
00:38:27,890 --> 00:38:29,570
to get ready for
the Serrata meeting,

769
00:38:29,570 --> 00:38:35,090
the most recent Serrata
just FOIA result,

770
00:38:35,090 --> 00:38:36,410
I think, and I have
it on my phone,

771
00:38:36,410 --> 00:38:41,000
but it just locked up on
me was the most recent one

772
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:45,000
was November 18th, 2023.

773
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,360
So if anyone had communicated
after November 18th,

774
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,870
2023 with staff.

775
00:38:49,870 --> 00:38:52,480
You weren't going to see
that information if you went

776
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,490
to the justice-for-hire site,
as everybody was told to do,

777
00:38:54,490 --> 00:38:56,270
to get ready for the
last public meeting.

778
00:38:56,270 --> 00:39:00,910
So that's an issue we need to
address that kind of thing,

779
00:39:00,910 --> 00:39:01,640
too.

780
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,270
So if there's some way we
can get that kind of thing

781
00:39:04,270 --> 00:39:08,443
automated somehow, to not have
to be a manual process where

782
00:39:08,443 --> 00:39:09,910
when people are sending
these communications

783
00:39:09,910 --> 00:39:13,420
in for a public meeting or
something like a key topic,

784
00:39:13,420 --> 00:39:16,390
it can get into that place.

785
00:39:16,390 --> 00:39:18,730
It might help make
the system, you know,

786
00:39:18,730 --> 00:39:20,050
a little smoother and easier.

787
00:39:20,050 --> 00:39:20,800
Thank you.

788
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,080
Thank you, sir.

789
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:24,770
Any other public comments?

790
00:39:24,770 --> 00:39:28,120
Tom rask, if you'll
please state your name

791
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,520
and address for the record.

792
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:31,330
Tom Rask.

793
00:39:31,330 --> 00:39:33,260
Tom Rask in Pinellas County.

794
00:39:33,260 --> 00:39:36,730
I've been trying to download
this resolution on my phone,

795
00:39:36,730 --> 00:39:38,470
but it's apparently
a large agenda

796
00:39:38,470 --> 00:39:40,310
packet, so I haven't seen it.

797
00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:42,530
But some of the language
here is concerning.

798
00:39:42,530 --> 00:39:46,090
It does say fee
schedule concerning

799
00:39:46,090 --> 00:39:48,430
public records requests
consistent with Florida

800
00:39:48,430 --> 00:39:49,130
statutes.

801
00:39:49,130 --> 00:39:53,370
Chapter 119, which is the
Florida public records law.

802
00:39:53,370 --> 00:39:55,220
But then it has
language after that

803
00:39:55,220 --> 00:40:00,650
saying providing for definitions
of applicable public records

804
00:40:00,650 --> 00:40:03,170
you don't get this agency
doesn't get to decide

805
00:40:03,170 --> 00:40:04,650
what's a public record.

806
00:40:04,650 --> 00:40:06,660
The statute does.

807
00:40:06,660 --> 00:40:07,650
Case law does.

808
00:40:07,650 --> 00:40:08,690
Et cetera.

809
00:40:08,690 --> 00:40:12,230
Then it says for it's I'm
looking for the language

810
00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:14,690
at providing for
reasonable special service

811
00:40:14,690 --> 00:40:16,790
charge when applicable.

812
00:40:16,790 --> 00:40:20,280
I from memory that's not
authorized by statute.

813
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,540
So I again I haven't
seen the resolution,

814
00:40:23,540 --> 00:40:29,190
but I'd encourage you to
ask for ask about this.

815
00:40:29,190 --> 00:40:30,960
I see things like severability.

816
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,710
Is the person supposed to enter
into some kind of agreement

817
00:40:33,710 --> 00:40:35,070
with the city?

818
00:40:35,070 --> 00:40:39,260
That's also that
would not be lawful

819
00:40:39,260 --> 00:40:44,120
because we have a constitutional
Florida constitutional right

820
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:45,090
to public records.

821
00:40:45,090 --> 00:40:47,040
We also have a statutory right.

822
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,130
You can't make people agree
to any terms of service.

823
00:40:50,130 --> 00:40:52,700
You can't even make
them fill out a form

824
00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:56,760
or tell you why they're
asking for the public records.

825
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:58,680
So those are The
concerns I have.

826
00:40:58,680 --> 00:40:59,510
Thank you.

827
00:40:59,510 --> 00:41:00,420
Thank you.

828
00:41:00,420 --> 00:41:03,450


829
00:41:03,450 --> 00:41:12,760
OK I'll make a motion to
approve resolution 2023.

830
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:13,690
Dash 23.

831
00:41:13,690 --> 00:41:15,470
Public records request policy.

832
00:41:15,470 --> 00:41:18,810


833
00:41:18,810 --> 00:41:20,970
A second.

834
00:41:20,970 --> 00:41:23,100
City clerk, if you'll
please do a roll call.

835
00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:24,370
Vice mayor lorenzen?

836
00:41:24,370 --> 00:41:25,850
Yes commissioner Marriott.

837
00:41:25,850 --> 00:41:27,250
Yes commissioner Fultz.

838
00:41:27,250 --> 00:41:28,780
Yes commissioner Reznik.

839
00:41:28,780 --> 00:41:30,070
Yes mayor Petrella.

840
00:41:30,070 --> 00:41:31,530
Yes motion carries.

841
00:41:31,530 --> 00:41:32,230
Thank you.

842
00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:32,860
Thank you.

843
00:41:32,860 --> 00:41:37,630


844
00:41:37,630 --> 00:41:41,080
Next we have item
eight, a sovereign

845
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:46,470
submerged lands easement renewal
discussion and possible action.

846
00:41:46,470 --> 00:41:47,820
City manager.

847
00:41:47,820 --> 00:41:50,180
Public service director
Clark is here, I believe.

848
00:41:50,180 --> 00:42:01,940


849
00:42:01,940 --> 00:42:02,520
Mike Clark.

850
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,030
Mike Clark, public
works director.

851
00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:07,370
A sovereign,
submerged land lease

852
00:42:07,370 --> 00:42:11,940
is a very common and
routine document that says,

853
00:42:11,940 --> 00:42:16,520
essentially the Lessor
US has something that's

854
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,180
in under or on top of the
waters of the state of Florida,

855
00:42:20,180 --> 00:42:22,230
the waters of the United
States of America.

856
00:42:22,230 --> 00:42:25,820
There is a survey that
documents the boundaries

857
00:42:25,820 --> 00:42:28,250
of where that object is.

858
00:42:28,250 --> 00:42:32,090
And there's an agreement between
the state and the individual,

859
00:42:32,090 --> 00:42:35,180
in our case, the municipality,
that we'll do our part

860
00:42:35,180 --> 00:42:38,450
to make sure that, you
know, the use is correct

861
00:42:38,450 --> 00:42:39,480
and it doesn't change.

862
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,480
And the state will do their
part to document it to make

863
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,170
sure that boats don't hit it.

864
00:42:43,170 --> 00:42:46,460
Or if it's an interstate
navigable waterway,

865
00:42:46,460 --> 00:42:48,990
it's on the charts and
things of that nature.

866
00:42:48,990 --> 00:42:50,640
This is a renewal.

867
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:52,770
The original did expire.

868
00:42:52,770 --> 00:42:56,300
So I called the state
agency, the point of contact

869
00:42:56,300 --> 00:42:58,380
that manages these things.

870
00:42:58,380 --> 00:43:00,960
And she stated that
happens from time

871
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,120
to time with municipalities
because of meetings

872
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,390
and schedules and such.

873
00:43:04,390 --> 00:43:05,920
It is not a problem
on their part.

874
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:12,840
The state will backdate
the date on their side.

875
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,210
Great Thank you.

876
00:43:16,210 --> 00:43:19,330
Questions, comments, discussion.

877
00:43:19,330 --> 00:43:20,380
I have one, Mr Mayor.

878
00:43:20,380 --> 00:43:22,820
So this is zero cost
to the taxpayer, right.

879
00:43:22,820 --> 00:43:24,910
And it's already, I
think, Florida DEP

880
00:43:24,910 --> 00:43:27,220
land that owns this.

881
00:43:27,220 --> 00:43:28,030
There's no.

882
00:43:28,030 --> 00:43:28,640
Thank you.

883
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:34,970


884
00:43:34,970 --> 00:43:36,920
City clerk in the
audience comments.

885
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,490
I have no cards, mayor.

886
00:43:40,490 --> 00:43:42,560
Do we have a motion?

887
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:45,470
I'll make a motion to accept
the sovereignty submerged lands

888
00:43:45,470 --> 00:43:49,010
easement renewal and
authorize the mayor

889
00:43:49,010 --> 00:43:50,840
to sign for submittal to
the Florida Department

890
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,900
of Environmental Protection.

891
00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:55,190
Do we have a second?

892
00:43:55,190 --> 00:43:58,500
Second city clerk, if you'll
please do a roll call.

893
00:43:58,500 --> 00:43:59,490
Commissioner Marriott.

894
00:43:59,490 --> 00:44:00,930
Yes Commissioner Purfeerst.

895
00:44:00,930 --> 00:44:02,990
Yes commissioner Resnick.

896
00:44:02,990 --> 00:44:04,610
Yes vice mayor Lorenzen.

897
00:44:04,610 --> 00:44:05,730
Yes mayor Petrica.

898
00:44:05,730 --> 00:44:07,290
Yes motion carries.

899
00:44:07,290 --> 00:44:08,060
Thank you.

900
00:44:08,060 --> 00:44:11,490
Next we have item 8 B.
Commissioner Resnick.

901
00:44:11,490 --> 00:44:13,620
Regarding commission
meeting attendance.

902
00:44:13,620 --> 00:44:17,090
Yes I wanted to bring this
up, of course, because

903
00:44:17,090 --> 00:44:21,980
of all the things that have
been transpiring that I

904
00:44:21,980 --> 00:44:24,030
wasn't privy to, obviously.

905
00:44:24,030 --> 00:44:26,910
So I didn't know how it
was going to conflict.

906
00:44:26,910 --> 00:44:30,560
Two things that I already
had on my schedule.

907
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:33,490
I will not be able
to attend February.

908
00:44:33,490 --> 00:44:36,900
And sorry, I'm bringing this
because I know we already

909
00:44:36,900 --> 00:44:40,230
have a set calendar and I
wasn't a part of determining

910
00:44:40,230 --> 00:44:42,360
a calendar for
commission meetings

911
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,680
because I wasn't here
obviously, back then.

912
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:50,490
But February 13th, I
have it's my last day

913
00:44:50,490 --> 00:44:53,140
as president of the
property owners corporation.

914
00:44:53,140 --> 00:44:55,540
It's our annual meeting,
it's on our bylaws.

915
00:44:55,540 --> 00:44:57,480
We have an election.

916
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,540
So, you know, the gavel
is being passed over.

917
00:45:01,540 --> 00:45:04,710
And so I cannot miss that.

918
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:06,280
So I will be missing this.

919
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:07,770
So I'm not going to
be asking for Zoom

920
00:45:07,770 --> 00:45:09,630
or anything crazy
because it happens

921
00:45:09,630 --> 00:45:13,260
to be at the same
exact time, 6 PM

922
00:45:13,260 --> 00:45:14,910
so I just wanted
to bring that up.

923
00:45:14,910 --> 00:45:19,890
But in that, you know,
as in my employment,

924
00:45:19,890 --> 00:45:23,790
I set my time off way
in advance because we

925
00:45:23,790 --> 00:45:26,980
have to plan it that way
when the school year starts.

926
00:45:26,980 --> 00:45:30,720
So I have a March 12th
and a June 25 date

927
00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:34,410
because our fiscal year
goes to June, June 30th,

928
00:45:34,410 --> 00:45:36,190
you know, the end of
the month of June.

929
00:45:36,190 --> 00:45:37,660
And then we start
off again in July.

930
00:45:37,660 --> 00:45:39,190
So we always have to plan out.

931
00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:44,520
So I have that marked as
my time off from work.

932
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,760
I have not planned
anything, so I don't know

933
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:48,760
if I'm going to be on a plane.

934
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,327
I don't know if I'm going
to be doing anything.

935
00:45:50,327 --> 00:45:51,400
I haven't gotten that far.

936
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,590
So my question was about
whether I could partake.

937
00:45:55,590 --> 00:45:58,060
I may be able to
participate in Zoom.

938
00:45:58,060 --> 00:46:01,230
I know there's been discussion
here in the about Zoom

939
00:46:01,230 --> 00:46:05,700
or teams, whichever
platform it is that we use.

940
00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:10,180
I know it doesn't count towards
quorum, but we can vote.

941
00:46:10,180 --> 00:46:14,340
I don't know if there's ever
been a resolution as to there's

942
00:46:14,340 --> 00:46:17,520
been some discussion, so I just
wanted to bring it to the table

943
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,090
so that we could talk about it.

944
00:46:19,090 --> 00:46:24,060


945
00:46:24,060 --> 00:46:27,540
So maybe I'll remember.

946
00:46:27,540 --> 00:46:29,520
Maybe the city clerk
could remind us

947
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,900
of what the if what the
commission has done in the past

948
00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:38,610
and if there's any of that
has been codified in any way,

949
00:46:38,610 --> 00:46:41,160
or if it was just an agreement
amongst the commission.

950
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,170
So nothing has been
adopted by the commission.

951
00:46:44,170 --> 00:46:47,950
I presented it in
November of last year.

952
00:46:47,950 --> 00:46:51,720
My research and my discussion
with the city attorney and I

953
00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:55,830
wrote a memorandum to the
commission based on that.

954
00:46:55,830 --> 00:46:58,140
Basically what's been
happening is the mayor

955
00:46:58,140 --> 00:47:00,150
announces when he's
been the only one

956
00:47:00,150 --> 00:47:03,010
to participate from on Zoom.

957
00:47:03,010 --> 00:47:06,060
So what he has been doing
is announcing it like Betty

958
00:47:06,060 --> 00:47:07,750
or Commissioner
Resnick just did.

959
00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:11,530
And then it's notice that he
would be attending via Zoom.

960
00:47:11,530 --> 00:47:13,110
And that's just the
way we've been doing it

961
00:47:13,110 --> 00:47:19,340
until we have some other formal
process adopted but not allowed

962
00:47:19,340 --> 00:47:19,840
to vote.

963
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:24,040
Right if you're zooming
mayor does vote.

964
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,190
He has voted and
that does count.

965
00:47:26,190 --> 00:47:28,710


966
00:47:28,710 --> 00:47:30,430
Does this need to be codified?

967
00:47:30,430 --> 00:47:31,080
Andrew?

968
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,140
it does not.

969
00:47:32,140 --> 00:47:35,820
I mean, you can
I think the clerk

970
00:47:35,820 --> 00:47:37,280
did a nice job on the memo.

971
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,080


972
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,930
Ironically, there's actually
a bill in Tallahassee

973
00:47:42,930 --> 00:47:45,270
where they're
actually considering

974
00:47:45,270 --> 00:47:47,220
giving local
governments the ability

975
00:47:47,220 --> 00:47:49,650
to hold meetings virtually.

976
00:47:49,650 --> 00:47:52,240
I think, two or
three times per year.

977
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:54,510
I'm assuming it has
to do with the summer

978
00:47:54,510 --> 00:47:56,110
break or something like that.

979
00:47:56,110 --> 00:47:58,900
But, you know, we can
keep you posted to that.

980
00:47:58,900 --> 00:48:01,890
But generally
speaking, the law is

981
00:48:01,890 --> 00:48:07,500
that you have to have an
in-person quorum present

982
00:48:07,500 --> 00:48:14,490
and that, you know, the reason
for attending electronically

983
00:48:14,490 --> 00:48:18,060
is warranted.

984
00:48:18,060 --> 00:48:19,950
Obviously, we
would have to know,

985
00:48:19,950 --> 00:48:23,310
what I do is, depending
on what's on the agenda,

986
00:48:23,310 --> 00:48:26,940
like if there's a quasi judicial
hearing that's on the agenda,

987
00:48:26,940 --> 00:48:28,810
you know, we have
to take extra steps

988
00:48:28,810 --> 00:48:32,890
to make sure that, you know,
disclosures are made that you

989
00:48:32,890 --> 00:48:37,000
affirm that you have
everything in front of you,

990
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,170
that, you know, the
information is there.

991
00:48:39,170 --> 00:48:42,460
So that whoever's voting is
voting with full knowledge

992
00:48:42,460 --> 00:48:43,250
of information.

993
00:48:43,250 --> 00:48:46,390
So we really just kind of
handled it on a case by case

994
00:48:46,390 --> 00:48:51,490
basis because it's not illegal.

995
00:48:51,490 --> 00:48:55,480
You know, the attorney general
opinions kind of go back

996
00:48:55,480 --> 00:49:01,510
in time and don't really
keep up with technology,

997
00:49:01,510 --> 00:49:03,760
to be honest with you, because
I think when the first ones

998
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:07,510
were issued, it was
about telephones

999
00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:09,710
and attending by telephone.

1000
00:49:09,710 --> 00:49:12,850
So the technology is
very different now.

1001
00:49:12,850 --> 00:49:16,750
So, you know, we can codify it.

1002
00:49:16,750 --> 00:49:19,250
I'm not sure if
you want to or not.

1003
00:49:19,250 --> 00:49:21,610
I mean, I think so far
we've been able to handle it

1004
00:49:21,610 --> 00:49:25,270
on a case by case
basis, you know,

1005
00:49:25,270 --> 00:49:30,490
to make sure that and now
the Zoom does work very good.

1006
00:49:30,490 --> 00:49:34,720
Maybe a year and a half ago,
it was not working very good

1007
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:36,140
and we were having
trouble with it.

1008
00:49:36,140 --> 00:49:41,670
So it hasn't been a
problem doing that.

1009
00:49:41,670 --> 00:49:46,960


1010
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:51,820
This brings up actually
another point that we discussed

1011
00:49:51,820 --> 00:49:54,730
at the end of last year, and we
said we were going to revisit

1012
00:49:54,730 --> 00:49:57,730
it earlier this year.

1013
00:49:57,730 --> 00:50:02,990
We had a conversation about
looking at July, August.

1014
00:50:02,990 --> 00:50:06,450
And putting the meetings at
the front end and the back end.

1015
00:50:06,450 --> 00:50:09,950
So we're required to have
two meetings per month.

1016
00:50:09,950 --> 00:50:12,560
So I think one of
that would actually

1017
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:18,230
fix your third meeting,
right, potentially.

1018
00:50:18,230 --> 00:50:21,470
So I think what we talked about
was scheduling two meetings,

1019
00:50:21,470 --> 00:50:24,860
either back to back two days
in a row or maybe a week apart

1020
00:50:24,860 --> 00:50:27,230
in the first week,
early July, and then

1021
00:50:27,230 --> 00:50:30,770
having the next commission
meeting seven or eight weeks

1022
00:50:30,770 --> 00:50:33,410
later.

1023
00:50:33,410 --> 00:50:35,990
We'll still have to have
the 27th of August meeting

1024
00:50:35,990 --> 00:50:37,740
because that's going to be
right after the election.

1025
00:50:37,740 --> 00:50:39,110
And then there'll
be the swearing in

1026
00:50:39,110 --> 00:50:42,710
and everything else.

1027
00:50:42,710 --> 00:50:44,300
So looking at the
calendar, I mean,

1028
00:50:44,300 --> 00:50:46,910
we could depending on what
the commission wanted to do,

1029
00:50:46,910 --> 00:50:52,470
we could do July 2nd and
we have a ninth scheduled.

1030
00:50:52,470 --> 00:50:56,210
For example, we could
do July 1st and second,

1031
00:50:56,210 --> 00:50:57,890
eighth and ninth,
and then we could

1032
00:50:57,890 --> 00:50:59,155
do the same thing in August.

1033
00:50:59,155 --> 00:51:02,470


1034
00:51:02,470 --> 00:51:05,320
I mean, those are
some options that

1035
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:06,520
would give some
people, especially

1036
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,550
those with kids in school and.

1037
00:51:09,550 --> 00:51:10,350
Some time.

1038
00:51:10,350 --> 00:51:11,840
Do you take time off?

1039
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:16,060
And if I remember
Commissioner lorenzen,

1040
00:51:16,060 --> 00:51:17,630
you're going to be out as well.

1041
00:51:17,630 --> 00:51:24,070
So that'll solve some of
those times off as well.

1042
00:51:24,070 --> 00:51:26,090
So I'm not sure if that's the
conversation we want to have.

1043
00:51:26,090 --> 00:51:28,360
Now as part of
this conversation.

1044
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:31,150
Well, at least I'm
putting it out there,

1045
00:51:31,150 --> 00:51:33,490
so at least we all could
individually, personally

1046
00:51:33,490 --> 00:51:35,980
go look at our calendars and
if there is something before we

1047
00:51:35,980 --> 00:51:38,920
start playing again
with the calendar

1048
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:40,880
because we can change the date.

1049
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,750
Right so as long so
maybe we could do that

1050
00:51:43,750 --> 00:51:48,040
at the next commission meeting,
maybe come prepared to if we,

1051
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,550
if I'm not asking to have to
move it, but because, you know,

1052
00:51:51,550 --> 00:51:55,060
we really haven't been
able to talk about this,

1053
00:51:55,060 --> 00:51:59,680
maybe we can come prepared to if
we need it, to move somewhere.

1054
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:00,650
That's that's a good point.

1055
00:52:00,650 --> 00:52:02,720
City clerk if you different
one is February 13.

1056
00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:06,010
Let me just say Yeah Yeah Yeah
we can add it for discussion

1057
00:52:06,010 --> 00:52:08,720
for next commission
meeting and then everyone

1058
00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:10,580
can look at their calendars
between now and then

1059
00:52:10,580 --> 00:52:13,490
and see come prepared with
some dates that are available

1060
00:52:13,490 --> 00:52:14,840
or not available.

1061
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:15,900
Do you want me to put it?

1062
00:52:15,900 --> 00:52:17,330
Since commissioner
Reznik will be

1063
00:52:17,330 --> 00:52:19,850
out for the February 13
meeting, do you want me to put

1064
00:52:19,850 --> 00:52:21,510
it onto the February 27th?

1065
00:52:21,510 --> 00:52:22,650
No, we should have
it without her.

1066
00:52:22,650 --> 00:52:27,230
Here, make the decisions.

1067
00:52:27,230 --> 00:52:32,330
Then I'll come to that
meeting and say, that's fine.

1068
00:52:32,330 --> 00:52:34,340
OK mayor.

1069
00:52:34,340 --> 00:52:35,180
Excuse me.

1070
00:52:35,180 --> 00:52:36,180
Just one thing.

1071
00:52:36,180 --> 00:52:37,910
As you're looking
at your calendars,

1072
00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:41,510
if specific times that
you need to be out

1073
00:52:41,510 --> 00:52:45,140
or would like to be out, if
you could give that information

1074
00:52:45,140 --> 00:52:46,610
either to the
clerk's office to me

1075
00:52:46,610 --> 00:52:49,700
prior to that meeting, because
there are certain meetings

1076
00:52:49,700 --> 00:52:52,850
that we need to have and
certain staff requirements

1077
00:52:52,850 --> 00:52:53,580
we need to have.

1078
00:52:53,580 --> 00:52:56,670
So if we could have
some idea ahead of time,

1079
00:52:56,670 --> 00:52:58,820
ahead of that next
discussion, then

1080
00:52:58,820 --> 00:53:04,340
we could make sure that it meets
all of our other requirements.

1081
00:53:04,340 --> 00:53:07,140
Thank you.

1082
00:53:07,140 --> 00:53:09,070
Yeah, I've got a general
question on that.

1083
00:53:09,070 --> 00:53:11,850
How far in advance do we
need in order to change

1084
00:53:11,850 --> 00:53:14,400
a commission meeting date?

1085
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,330
I would prefer seven days.

1086
00:53:16,330 --> 00:53:18,460
OK you can do 72 hours.

1087
00:53:18,460 --> 00:53:19,565
OK Thanks.

1088
00:53:19,565 --> 00:53:22,660


1089
00:53:22,660 --> 00:53:26,890
OK Any other discussion on this?

1090
00:53:26,890 --> 00:53:32,140
OK, next we have item 8
c, the executive session.

1091
00:53:32,140 --> 00:53:33,730
Thank you, mayor.

1092
00:53:33,730 --> 00:53:43,990
Pursuant to section 286
.011, subparagraph eight,

1093
00:53:43,990 --> 00:53:47,380
when the city
attorney wants to have

1094
00:53:47,380 --> 00:53:50,230
your advice in an
executive session,

1095
00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:53,360
I need to announce that
at a public meeting.

1096
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:57,890
This is a public meeting, so
I'm announcing it specifically.

1097
00:53:57,890 --> 00:54:01,810
It says the entity's
attorney and the city

1098
00:54:01,810 --> 00:54:05,710
would be the entity shall advise
the entity at a public meeting

1099
00:54:05,710 --> 00:54:07,190
that he or she desires.

1100
00:54:07,190 --> 00:54:09,700
Advice concerning
the litigation.

1101
00:54:09,700 --> 00:54:12,940
The litigation that
I'm referring to

1102
00:54:12,940 --> 00:54:14,270
actually is two of them.

1103
00:54:14,270 --> 00:54:18,670
One would be Saint
Pete Beach advocacy

1104
00:54:18,670 --> 00:54:21,940
group, et Al versus the
City of Saint Pete Beach.

1105
00:54:21,940 --> 00:54:28,550
They have sent me today
this afternoon a letter

1106
00:54:28,550 --> 00:54:32,420
with a settlement
offer and I need

1107
00:54:32,420 --> 00:54:34,940
to circulate that to you all.

1108
00:54:34,940 --> 00:54:39,290
But in order for us to discuss
it in an executive session,

1109
00:54:39,290 --> 00:54:41,160
we need to schedule that.

1110
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:45,200
And as I said, I need
to request that meeting

1111
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,840
here at a public meeting.

1112
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:52,490
The other development is
red, white and blues versus

1113
00:54:52,490 --> 00:54:53,850
City of Saint Pete Beach.

1114
00:54:53,850 --> 00:54:58,610
That's relating to a cup
conditional use permit.

1115
00:54:58,610 --> 00:55:02,420
Defense counsel who is
working on that with me

1116
00:55:02,420 --> 00:55:06,830
has had some verbal discussions,
I believe, with opposing

1117
00:55:06,830 --> 00:55:10,970
counsel, and I'm hoping that
maybe we can get something

1118
00:55:10,970 --> 00:55:14,540
in writing officially
from them by the time

1119
00:55:14,540 --> 00:55:17,210
that we meet so
that we can discuss

1120
00:55:17,210 --> 00:55:22,440
both potential settlements
and in an executive session.

1121
00:55:22,440 --> 00:55:31,000
So I have spoken
to defense counsel

1122
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:36,040
that the city is using for
protect Saint Pete Beach

1123
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,470
advocacy group
versus St Pete beach,

1124
00:55:38,470 --> 00:55:44,920
and they have indicated to
me that the best time would

1125
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:49,630
be the earliest would be on.

1126
00:55:49,630 --> 00:55:55,870
I think it was February 6 that
next week would be too quick.

1127
00:55:55,870 --> 00:55:58,900
One of them was not available.

1128
00:55:58,900 --> 00:56:02,530
And then on top of
that, we need to also

1129
00:56:02,530 --> 00:56:07,420
prepare for our own
answer to that complaint.

1130
00:56:07,420 --> 00:56:12,670
I will remind you or let
you know that I had informed

1131
00:56:12,670 --> 00:56:18,910
opposing counsel for that case
a while ago when we scheduled

1132
00:56:18,910 --> 00:56:21,490
this, the executive
session that we had

1133
00:56:21,490 --> 00:56:24,970
today, that we were having
an executive session just

1134
00:56:24,970 --> 00:56:27,950
so for the very
reason that perhaps

1135
00:56:27,950 --> 00:56:31,280
we could get her
proposal earlier

1136
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,590
rather than this afternoon.

1137
00:56:33,590 --> 00:56:39,500
So I'm suggesting that we
have that executive session

1138
00:56:39,500 --> 00:56:42,300
on the sixth.

1139
00:56:42,300 --> 00:56:47,160
Definitely to talk about
the protect Saint Pete Beach

1140
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:50,310
advocacy group
case and hopefully

1141
00:56:50,310 --> 00:56:52,700
the red, white and
blues case as well.

1142
00:56:52,700 --> 00:57:00,880


1143
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:02,800
There's no way to
make this sound good,

1144
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,210
but I would like
to have it sooner.

1145
00:57:05,210 --> 00:57:09,340
And the reason for this is
because, you know, no offense

1146
00:57:09,340 --> 00:57:12,770
to all the attorneys out there,
but I've seen how they operate.

1147
00:57:12,770 --> 00:57:13,990
The second you hand
them something,

1148
00:57:13,990 --> 00:57:16,870
they're like a dog with
a bone and they go out

1149
00:57:16,870 --> 00:57:19,237
and it's billable
hours going forward.

1150
00:57:19,237 --> 00:57:20,470
And I'm not saying
that they're going

1151
00:57:20,470 --> 00:57:23,120
to go out and spend hundreds
hours in the next two weeks.

1152
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:25,900
I just they're going
to go 100 miles an hour

1153
00:57:25,900 --> 00:57:28,280
to prepare for this, prepare for
that, do all this other stuff.

1154
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,310
We're going to
spend a ton of money

1155
00:57:30,310 --> 00:57:34,630
in the next two weeks versus if
we try to do this concurrently

1156
00:57:34,630 --> 00:57:37,600
and say, you know, what we
talked about earlier was having

1157
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,530
a meeting much sooner, maybe
within the next week, 10 days

1158
00:57:41,530 --> 00:57:44,770
or so, so that we're
not burning all

1159
00:57:44,770 --> 00:57:48,370
of this capital on
the defense if we come

1160
00:57:48,370 --> 00:57:50,780
to some kind of resolution.

1161
00:57:50,780 --> 00:57:53,400


1162
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,780
And then again, I have no way
of making that sound good.

1163
00:57:56,780 --> 00:58:01,010
It's just I. I've seen it enough
times where the second you hand

1164
00:58:01,010 --> 00:58:03,470
an attorney something,
they put every associate

1165
00:58:03,470 --> 00:58:05,600
on it, every paralegal on it.

1166
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,970
Again, I don't that's what
I would do because you're

1167
00:58:07,970 --> 00:58:09,240
going to have to prepare.

1168
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:10,797
But you know, if we
give them two weeks,

1169
00:58:10,797 --> 00:58:12,330
we're going to get two
weeks worth of billing.

1170
00:58:12,330 --> 00:58:13,497
If we're going to
give them a week,

1171
00:58:13,497 --> 00:58:16,580
we're going to get the
week's worth of billing.

1172
00:58:16,580 --> 00:58:19,790
Well, I mean, I know
that's your assumption.

1173
00:58:19,790 --> 00:58:25,070
It's not necessarily
the truth, but I'm just

1174
00:58:25,070 --> 00:58:27,920
saying that what with
conferring with them,

1175
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,610
I was told that the primary
attorney assigned to this

1176
00:58:31,610 --> 00:58:36,540
was not available
starting the 31.

1177
00:58:36,540 --> 00:58:42,540
And I believe that Commissioner
was not available on the 30th.

1178
00:58:42,540 --> 00:58:46,100
So the primary attorney
that was assigned

1179
00:58:46,100 --> 00:58:51,470
is not available from the
31 through the second.

1180
00:58:51,470 --> 00:58:55,060
And quite frankly, that is
a fairly quick turnaround.

1181
00:58:55,060 --> 00:58:59,430
But if you want to have that
executive session on the 30

1182
00:58:59,430 --> 00:59:02,740
with me, happy to do it.

1183
00:59:02,740 --> 00:59:05,250


1184
00:59:05,250 --> 00:59:08,080
I'll spend time and
money preparing for it.

1185
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,880


1186
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,070
Mayor, please go ahead.

1187
00:59:14,070 --> 00:59:15,750
I kind of get what
Adrian's saying,

1188
00:59:15,750 --> 00:59:20,010
but I also know that I mean,
they got a when they invoice,

1189
00:59:20,010 --> 00:59:22,720
they're going to be saying
what they're invoicing for.

1190
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:28,180
So with that, you can limit
what I want to say limit.

1191
00:59:28,180 --> 00:59:31,590
But if the hours for
preparing for a meeting

1192
00:59:31,590 --> 00:59:33,463
is going to be viewable.

1193
00:59:33,463 --> 00:59:34,830
Right, we're going to
see an invoice that

1194
00:59:34,830 --> 00:59:38,040
says we're billing five hours
to prepare for this meeting

1195
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:40,350
or review whatever.

1196
00:59:40,350 --> 00:59:43,500
You know, I think
we could kind of

1197
00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:46,050
contain anything going crazy.

1198
00:59:46,050 --> 00:59:48,780
know, we're not going to
see the bill or the invoice

1199
00:59:48,780 --> 00:59:50,890
until after we can
give after the fact.

1200
00:59:50,890 --> 00:59:52,410
Correct?

1201
00:59:52,410 --> 00:59:53,670
maybe.

1202
00:59:53,670 --> 00:59:57,230
I mean, if they know
that we're going

1203
00:59:57,230 --> 00:59:59,640
to have a meeting on the sixth.

1204
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:05,030
I mean, but we still understand
that once a lawsuit is served,

1205
01:00:05,030 --> 01:00:07,640
the mayor has been served.

1206
01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:09,390
So the clock started.

1207
01:00:09,390 --> 01:00:14,690
We have a certain amount of
time to file something in court

1208
01:00:14,690 --> 01:00:19,490
and that needs to be done
and they need to do it.

1209
01:00:19,490 --> 01:00:21,660
They're not going to
schedule depositions.

1210
01:00:21,660 --> 01:00:24,330
They're not going to
schedule discovery.

1211
01:00:24,330 --> 01:00:28,730
They're not going to schedule
all the pre-trial things

1212
01:00:28,730 --> 01:00:30,770
within a week.

1213
01:00:30,770 --> 01:00:32,120
I think they're
going to be focused

1214
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,490
on making sure that
we timely file,

1215
01:00:35,490 --> 01:00:37,430
what we're supposed to file.

1216
01:00:37,430 --> 01:00:39,260
Starting from the
time that the mayor

1217
01:00:39,260 --> 01:00:40,495
was served with the lawsuit.

1218
01:00:40,495 --> 01:00:43,680


1219
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:48,300
And again, I'll remind you, I
mean, they I specifically made

1220
01:00:48,300 --> 01:00:51,240
it clear to opposing
counsel that we're having

1221
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:54,150
this executive session so
that we would get something

1222
01:00:54,150 --> 01:00:56,370
in a timely manner if
they were going to come up

1223
01:00:56,370 --> 01:00:57,310
with something.

1224
01:00:57,310 --> 01:01:02,970
You know, they chose to provide
it to me this afternoon.

1225
01:01:02,970 --> 01:01:06,420
And frankly, I don't
feel comfortable.

1226
01:01:06,420 --> 01:01:10,320
I mean, I, I gave you
the synopsis of it,

1227
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,430
but I don't feel comfortable
giving you legal advice on it

1228
01:01:14,430 --> 01:01:16,560
right now.

1229
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,500
But I'll know, like I
said, it's your will.

1230
01:01:20,500 --> 01:01:24,060
I highly doubt that you're
going to have an entire law

1231
01:01:24,060 --> 01:01:29,250
firm working on this
particular case between now

1232
01:01:29,250 --> 01:01:33,000
and the sixth and
billing, you know,

1233
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,450
an enormous amount of money.

1234
01:01:34,450 --> 01:01:38,610
And remember, the half of
it's almost half of it's

1235
01:01:38,610 --> 01:01:40,350
covered by your
insurance carrier

1236
01:01:40,350 --> 01:01:44,823
anyway, maybe an in between.

1237
01:01:44,823 --> 01:01:45,990
I mean, I'm looking
at the calendar

1238
01:01:45,990 --> 01:01:49,530
and I think we were first
looking at the 31 and now

1239
01:01:49,530 --> 01:01:50,610
maybe the sixth.

1240
01:01:50,610 --> 01:01:54,330
The difference between those
two things is 3 working days.

1241
01:01:54,330 --> 01:01:56,400
So I don't know.

1242
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,080
When I look at that,
I'm kind of the six

1243
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,740
seems to be a better
compromise in my mind.

1244
01:02:01,740 --> 01:02:03,220
It's not really a compromise.

1245
01:02:03,220 --> 01:02:05,100
We're just agreeing on a date.

1246
01:02:05,100 --> 01:02:06,520
But would you like to call it?

1247
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:10,020
It just seems like
a good go between.

1248
01:02:10,020 --> 01:02:12,000
Well, go between
would be halfway,

1249
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:16,230
which would be like the 31
that would be accomplished.

1250
01:02:16,230 --> 01:02:21,210
So again, I think as we
had discussed earlier,

1251
01:02:21,210 --> 01:02:24,330
I think it's prudent
of us to move forward

1252
01:02:24,330 --> 01:02:25,840
faster rather than slow.

1253
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:27,360
Two weeks seems slow to me.

1254
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:28,990
So what were you proposing?

1255
01:02:28,990 --> 01:02:30,990
I must have missed it.

1256
01:02:30,990 --> 01:02:33,720
I proposed as early as the 30th.

1257
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,930
Well, we already said that's
a no go for a couple of us.

1258
01:02:36,930 --> 01:02:38,200
Or for at least one of us.

1259
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:40,140
Yep and then apparently
the other attorney is not

1260
01:02:40,140 --> 01:02:45,180
available after the 31st, so.

1261
01:02:45,180 --> 01:02:46,040
Is that correct?

1262
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,360
He's not available on
the 31 and going forward

1263
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,950
until the sixth the second.

1264
01:02:50,950 --> 01:02:52,840
I think that's what he said.

1265
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:58,230
And meeting with him,
31 to the second.

1266
01:02:58,230 --> 01:02:59,250
He's not available.

1267
01:02:59,250 --> 01:03:00,000
He's not available?

1268
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,370
No he's not available
on the second

1269
01:03:03,370 --> 01:03:05,300
or could he be
available on the second?

1270
01:03:05,300 --> 01:03:05,990
Oh, my God.

1271
01:03:05,990 --> 01:03:07,610
I'm seriously.

1272
01:03:07,610 --> 01:03:10,340
Why don't we just do it on
the 30th and I'll advise you.

1273
01:03:10,340 --> 01:03:12,040
You know, like, if.

1274
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:13,760
Yeah, if I. If I may be coming.

1275
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,330
A little frustrating to
me, I think represent you

1276
01:03:16,330 --> 01:03:18,610
as an attorney and,
and to be pushed back

1277
01:03:18,610 --> 01:03:22,540
on constantly to have a
meeting on a serious issue

1278
01:03:22,540 --> 01:03:23,890
and to rush it.

1279
01:03:23,890 --> 01:03:28,480
So let's do it on
the 30th and I'll

1280
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,360
give you the advice, Matthew.

1281
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,270
Yeah I was just going to say,
the way the statute is laid out

1282
01:03:34,270 --> 01:03:37,030
is this is a meeting
that we are calling

1283
01:03:37,030 --> 01:03:40,810
to talk to you about that we
need to feel prepared for.

1284
01:03:40,810 --> 01:03:42,970
And I can understand
the urgency to do this,

1285
01:03:42,970 --> 01:03:46,240
but this isn't a special meeting
that we're setting to discuss

1286
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,590
a development or an ordinance.

1287
01:03:48,590 --> 01:03:51,650
This is something that we are
advising you we need to do.

1288
01:03:51,650 --> 01:03:54,290
And I just think it's
prudent that we're prepared.

1289
01:03:54,290 --> 01:03:56,020
And we've just
disclosed the fact

1290
01:03:56,020 --> 01:03:59,570
that the attorneys that we just
appointed are not available.

1291
01:03:59,570 --> 01:04:03,690
So the 31 the first the
second are not feasible dates.

1292
01:04:03,690 --> 01:04:07,320
We can do it the week of
the sixth or we can do it.

1293
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,300
Like we did today at 4:30
before the 13 meeting.

1294
01:04:10,300 --> 01:04:13,080
But now miss Resnick
is not available, then.

1295
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,870
But I just wanted to
mention that because we

1296
01:04:15,870 --> 01:04:17,130
need to be prepared as well.

1297
01:04:17,130 --> 01:04:18,330
There's no point
of having a meeting

1298
01:04:18,330 --> 01:04:20,970
and not discussing anything.

1299
01:04:20,970 --> 01:04:28,260
If I may, I think that I,
as somebody who has worked

1300
01:04:28,260 --> 01:04:32,850
for myself my whole life, I
certainly understand the desire

1301
01:04:32,850 --> 01:04:35,550
to once you decide to
do something, to do it

1302
01:04:35,550 --> 01:04:38,580
as quickly as possible and,
you know, make a decision

1303
01:04:38,580 --> 01:04:40,260
and move forward.

1304
01:04:40,260 --> 01:04:45,090
I also think that once
we've agreed to hire someone

1305
01:04:45,090 --> 01:04:48,570
to act as our counsel, there
has to be some amount of trust

1306
01:04:48,570 --> 01:04:50,760
involved in that relationship.

1307
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:55,570
And if we're going to
assume that they are.

1308
01:04:55,570 --> 01:05:00,730
Just billing us for the most
money they can to no good end.

1309
01:05:00,730 --> 01:05:04,070
Then we probably shouldn't have
hired them in the first place.

1310
01:05:04,070 --> 01:05:06,280
And so I'm.

1311
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,410
Did you hear anyone say that
they're going to be billing

1312
01:05:08,410 --> 01:05:11,980
for no apparent reason at all,
especially after they lecture

1313
01:05:11,980 --> 01:05:15,010
this for 20 minutes on
how time is of the essence

1314
01:05:15,010 --> 01:05:16,750
and we need to move fast.

1315
01:05:16,750 --> 01:05:18,580
And then the same
people that told us they

1316
01:05:18,580 --> 01:05:20,660
can move fast cannot move fast.

1317
01:05:20,660 --> 01:05:22,490
I'd like to remind you
that what we discussed

1318
01:05:22,490 --> 01:05:23,590
in the executive
session this was

1319
01:05:23,590 --> 01:05:26,170
before the executive
session started, just

1320
01:05:26,170 --> 01:05:27,260
a friendly reminder.

1321
01:05:27,260 --> 01:05:28,870
What was discussed in
the executive session

1322
01:05:28,870 --> 01:05:32,860
is not a public record and
it was outside of the public.

1323
01:05:32,860 --> 01:05:34,270
Thank you.

1324
01:05:34,270 --> 01:05:37,660
So anyway, it's as the
city attorney said,

1325
01:05:37,660 --> 01:05:39,170
we're not going anywhere.

1326
01:05:39,170 --> 01:05:43,960
So fifth, sixth, seventh,
let's pick a date.

1327
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:45,850
Mayor, if I may, I
mean, we're talking

1328
01:05:45,850 --> 01:05:47,440
about a week difference.

1329
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:48,940
What I was trying
to get at, Andrew,

1330
01:05:48,940 --> 01:05:51,430
I was just trying to understand
if the second was available

1331
01:05:51,430 --> 01:05:52,270
or not.

1332
01:05:52,270 --> 01:05:55,780
I think the sixth is a
reasonable amount of time.

1333
01:05:55,780 --> 01:05:58,810
I'm good with the sixth.

1334
01:05:58,810 --> 01:05:59,780
I'm good with the sixth, too.

1335
01:05:59,780 --> 01:06:02,060
Did he give a time?

1336
01:06:02,060 --> 01:06:04,160
No, it's open.

1337
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:09,890
OK so do you all
prefer mornings?

1338
01:06:09,890 --> 01:06:11,500
Afternoon?

1339
01:06:11,500 --> 01:06:13,590
4:00, I think, is the earliest.

1340
01:06:13,590 --> 01:06:16,350


1341
01:06:16,350 --> 01:06:19,150
Yeah, I'm good with that.

1342
01:06:19,150 --> 01:06:19,650
All right.

1343
01:06:19,650 --> 01:06:23,130
4:00 on the sixth.

1344
01:06:23,130 --> 01:06:26,790
Do we need a motion or
do we just schedule it?

1345
01:06:26,790 --> 01:06:27,857
You could just schedule it, but.

1346
01:06:27,857 --> 01:06:28,357
All right.

1347
01:06:28,357 --> 01:06:30,000
So we're going to schedule
an executive session

1348
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:32,975
for February 6 at 4:00 PM.

1349
01:06:32,975 --> 01:06:37,150


1350
01:06:37,150 --> 01:06:40,540
And the two items, I guess,
will update the agenda

1351
01:06:40,540 --> 01:06:42,310
once we figure out
whether red, white

1352
01:06:42,310 --> 01:06:44,870
and blues is going to be ready
or not to have a conversation.

1353
01:06:44,870 --> 01:06:45,390
Yep.

1354
01:06:45,390 --> 01:06:45,890
OK.

1355
01:06:45,890 --> 01:06:48,370
Hopefully we can do
both, but we'll see.

1356
01:06:48,370 --> 01:06:51,150
OK, easy enough.

1357
01:06:51,150 --> 01:06:51,650
All right.

1358
01:06:51,650 --> 01:06:54,340
Next we have action
item 8 D. Sorry

1359
01:06:54,340 --> 01:06:59,380
discussion item 8 D the February
22 meeting for the Cerrado.

1360
01:06:59,380 --> 01:07:03,100
I think there's a discussion
about the location.

1361
01:07:03,100 --> 01:07:07,270
I think it's I believe
it's February 21.

1362
01:07:07,270 --> 01:07:09,440
21st February 21.

1363
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:12,160
Yeah I've received some
emails and just general

1364
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:16,230
concerns about having enough.

1365
01:07:16,230 --> 01:07:20,220
Public viewing area
seating available.

1366
01:07:20,220 --> 01:07:25,260
Maybe city manager
could comment on that.

1367
01:07:25,260 --> 01:07:29,340
Sure just, you know, I being
in February with the weather,

1368
01:07:29,340 --> 01:07:32,160
we might not be able to
have a TV set up outside,

1369
01:07:32,160 --> 01:07:33,950
whether it be rain cold.

1370
01:07:33,950 --> 01:07:35,950
So sure.

1371
01:07:35,950 --> 01:07:37,110
Be glad to.

1372
01:07:37,110 --> 01:07:41,460
Actually, we discussed this
internally a couple of days

1373
01:07:41,460 --> 01:07:46,420
ago back on the
December 5 meeting.

1374
01:07:46,420 --> 01:07:50,200
We had 57 seats
available in here.

1375
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:51,760
Of course, we had other seats.

1376
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:54,570
You know, we have a
maximum number of seats,

1377
01:07:54,570 --> 01:07:56,550
but we had a certain number
of seats for the applicant,

1378
01:07:56,550 --> 01:07:58,980
certain the commission,
but we did have

1379
01:07:58,980 --> 01:08:01,720
57 available seats in here.

1380
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:06,060
But then we also opened up
the upstairs lobby as well as

1381
01:08:06,060 --> 01:08:08,070
the upstairs large
conference room,

1382
01:08:08,070 --> 01:08:11,940
which gave us another 44 seats.

1383
01:08:11,940 --> 01:08:15,340
So it gives us a
total of 122 seats.

1384
01:08:15,340 --> 01:08:19,609
And then of course, we had the
outside area that we set up.

1385
01:08:19,609 --> 01:08:21,580
And February is
probably not going

1386
01:08:21,580 --> 01:08:23,410
to be a good time to do that.

1387
01:08:23,410 --> 01:08:26,529
But I was informed by the
people who were actually working

1388
01:08:26,529 --> 01:08:30,340
that area that the majority
of those people, almost all

1389
01:08:30,340 --> 01:08:32,479
of those people left
after the first hour.

1390
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,600
They either migrated
inside or left.

1391
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:40,120
We did go ahead and
look at the other option

1392
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:42,130
that has been
discussed in the past,

1393
01:08:42,130 --> 01:08:44,080
which is the community center.

1394
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,510
And, you know, as
we've discussed before,

1395
01:08:46,510 --> 01:08:48,319
there's a lot of
challenges to that.

1396
01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:49,930
It's not set up for
a public meeting

1397
01:08:49,930 --> 01:08:52,930
as far as amplification,
microphones,

1398
01:08:52,930 --> 01:08:56,240
Zoom acoustics are a problem.

1399
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,260
But we did we did look
to see what we would need

1400
01:08:59,260 --> 01:09:02,950
to do if that was a
decision or the direction

1401
01:09:02,950 --> 01:09:04,569
we wanted to go in.

1402
01:09:04,569 --> 01:09:06,609
We did find a
company that could do

1403
01:09:06,609 --> 01:09:10,600
all of the technical things
that need to be done over there,

1404
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:12,500
which is pretty significant.

1405
01:09:12,500 --> 01:09:16,720
But in order to really
conduct a public meeting,

1406
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,970
the way it needs to
be conducted, provide

1407
01:09:18,970 --> 01:09:21,550
for the zoom, provide
for the recording,

1408
01:09:21,550 --> 01:09:25,930
everything we would need to
the cost is around $8,000

1409
01:09:25,930 --> 01:09:28,600
to do that for that one meeting.

1410
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:31,779
So we followed that up
with our staff going

1411
01:09:31,779 --> 01:09:35,740
over looking at the maximum
capacity of that room,

1412
01:09:35,740 --> 01:09:36,740
did the same thing.

1413
01:09:36,740 --> 01:09:40,060
We did in here, looked at how
much room would be taken up

1414
01:09:40,060 --> 01:09:42,250
for that equipment that
would have to come in,

1415
01:09:42,250 --> 01:09:46,840
how much room would be taken up
to some kind of a portable dais

1416
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:48,529
as well as podium.

1417
01:09:48,529 --> 01:09:54,760
And where we ended
up with that was we

1418
01:09:54,760 --> 01:09:57,250
would have
approximately 120 seats

1419
01:09:57,250 --> 01:09:59,480
available in that facility.

1420
01:09:59,480 --> 01:10:03,910
So we really don't gain any
seats by moving over there.

1421
01:10:03,910 --> 01:10:05,680
And the other problem
with that is it

1422
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,740
would really be two
days of disruption

1423
01:10:08,740 --> 01:10:11,780
for that facility, which
is that's the time of year.

1424
01:10:11,780 --> 01:10:13,280
It's used a lot.

1425
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,240
But, you know, they would have
to have one day for the company

1426
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,500
to come in to Setup everything
up the following day.

1427
01:10:18,500 --> 01:10:20,900
They would have to
be demobilizing.

1428
01:10:20,900 --> 01:10:25,750
So there's really
not a big there's not

1429
01:10:25,750 --> 01:10:27,730
any benefit of actually
trying to move over

1430
01:10:27,730 --> 01:10:30,170
there and spend that $8,000.

1431
01:10:30,170 --> 01:10:32,350
And so, you know,
my recommendation

1432
01:10:32,350 --> 01:10:34,900
is we do exactly what we
did with the last meeting

1433
01:10:34,900 --> 01:10:37,570
except for the outside.

1434
01:10:37,570 --> 01:10:40,330
And we could at the
last minute, if we

1435
01:10:40,330 --> 01:10:43,870
see that it's going to be good
weather, we could, you know,

1436
01:10:43,870 --> 01:10:46,490
put something out there
for any type of overflow.

1437
01:10:46,490 --> 01:10:48,350
But that's my recommendation.

1438
01:10:48,350 --> 01:10:56,640


1439
01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:00,070
Well, it kind of
makes sense to me.

1440
01:11:00,070 --> 01:11:02,340
I don't see the
bang from the buck

1441
01:11:02,340 --> 01:11:05,100
they're spending $8,000 for.

1442
01:11:05,100 --> 01:11:08,010
And I can kind of see a lot of
technical glitches occurring

1443
01:11:08,010 --> 01:11:10,930
and it just being kind
of a strange setup.

1444
01:11:10,930 --> 01:11:12,390
And if we also do
that, we're kind

1445
01:11:12,390 --> 01:11:14,940
of setting the marker for every
time there's a large action

1446
01:11:14,940 --> 01:11:17,080
item, we got to go
spend another 8,000

1447
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:18,730
to move everybody
over there each time.

1448
01:11:18,730 --> 01:11:22,730
So I'm not saying it's worth
all that extra money and effort.

1449
01:11:22,730 --> 01:11:28,100


1450
01:11:28,100 --> 01:11:30,290
I tend to agree with that.

1451
01:11:30,290 --> 01:11:32,990
I'd say I'd
certainly be prepared

1452
01:11:32,990 --> 01:11:36,810
to put a TV outside in the
event the weather may be great.

1453
01:11:36,810 --> 01:11:38,790
So I'd certainly do that.

1454
01:11:38,790 --> 01:11:39,710
We can do that.

1455
01:11:39,710 --> 01:11:40,430
We are.

1456
01:11:40,430 --> 01:11:42,140
We already figured
out how to do it.

1457
01:11:42,140 --> 01:11:46,760
So we could move quickly if
the weather was OK for that.

1458
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:51,320
Can I ask also, since we did
do this already before, we've

1459
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:52,790
already looked at
any of the glitches

1460
01:11:52,790 --> 01:11:55,590
that might have happened before
and are able to address it.

1461
01:11:55,590 --> 01:11:57,890
So it doesn't happen
in the future.

1462
01:11:57,890 --> 01:12:00,080
So are there any
processes in place

1463
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:03,450
to make it more efficient
for public comment or.

1464
01:12:03,450 --> 01:12:05,953
You know, there is a delay.

1465
01:12:05,953 --> 01:12:07,220
I know because I've
been in the lobby,

1466
01:12:07,220 --> 01:12:11,130
there's a delay in
what's being said here.

1467
01:12:11,130 --> 01:12:13,450
But it's like, what,
maybe two minutes?

1468
01:12:13,450 --> 01:12:13,950
Three minutes?

1469
01:12:13,950 --> 01:12:16,160
I'm not sure what the delay
is, but there is a delay

1470
01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:17,250
when you're in the lobby.

1471
01:12:17,250 --> 01:12:20,460
I don't know if it's more
so out in the parking lot.

1472
01:12:20,460 --> 01:12:24,600
But yeah, there is a slight
delay, you know, from that.

1473
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,910
But it didn't seem to
cause a problem with,

1474
01:12:26,910 --> 01:12:29,115
with conducting the business.

1475
01:12:29,115 --> 01:12:40,120


1476
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:43,870
So unless there's any other
ideas or discussion on it,

1477
01:12:43,870 --> 01:12:47,250
you know, I would just suggest
we move forward with that plan.

1478
01:12:47,250 --> 01:12:50,170


1479
01:12:50,170 --> 01:12:50,780
Thank you.

1480
01:12:50,780 --> 01:13:04,510


1481
01:13:04,510 --> 01:13:12,690
All right, next, we have
item 9 C. City clerk.

1482
01:13:12,690 --> 01:13:13,610
Yes Thank you, mayor.

1483
01:13:13,610 --> 01:13:15,510
So I have a couple of things.

1484
01:13:15,510 --> 01:13:20,040
The first thing is,
so I and my staff

1485
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:24,150
do a telecommuting from time
to time based on scheduling

1486
01:13:24,150 --> 01:13:26,080
and 1 to two days a week.

1487
01:13:26,080 --> 01:13:30,720
And there is a form
to authorize that.

1488
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,570
And because you guys
are all my supervisor,

1489
01:13:33,570 --> 01:13:36,300
I was going to ask if there's
consensus to allow the mayor

1490
01:13:36,300 --> 01:13:40,590
to sign the authorization for
my telecommuting 1 to two days

1491
01:13:40,590 --> 01:13:43,150
a week as schedule allows.

1492
01:13:43,150 --> 01:13:46,830
And to sign Jenny, deputy
city clerk Jenny Botkin

1493
01:13:46,830 --> 01:13:49,530
and administrative
assistant Ariana Wilson

1494
01:13:49,530 --> 01:13:52,630
to do the same as
schedule allows.

1495
01:13:52,630 --> 01:13:55,830
And of course, if there's any
other issue that may arise,

1496
01:13:55,830 --> 01:13:57,390
but it's always
communicated to you,

1497
01:13:57,390 --> 01:14:02,760
if there's a long term issue, a
week or two, that might occur.

1498
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,950
So if I have no
objection, I'll just

1499
01:14:04,950 --> 01:14:06,930
take that as a
consensus to allow

1500
01:14:06,930 --> 01:14:10,060
the mayor to sign those forms.

1501
01:14:10,060 --> 01:14:13,840
If I could piggyback onto
that, if you don't mind.

1502
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:22,570
So I'd also, in addition to
that, so the prior commission

1503
01:14:22,570 --> 01:14:27,010
well, first of all, I report
to the commission, the manager

1504
01:14:27,010 --> 01:14:28,750
reports to the commission
and the clerk reports

1505
01:14:28,750 --> 01:14:29,420
to the commission.

1506
01:14:29,420 --> 01:14:32,800
So in order to get these
types of things approved,

1507
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:34,280
we have to do it this way.

1508
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:39,640
But you know, what I
would ask in addition

1509
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:43,720
to the telecommuting, is to
authorize the mayor to work

1510
01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:46,340
with the clerk as needed.

1511
01:14:46,340 --> 01:14:50,740
You know, she
obviously works late

1512
01:14:50,740 --> 01:14:52,990
into the night on a
lot of different things

1513
01:14:52,990 --> 01:14:58,460
and has flex time, has,
you know, different things.

1514
01:14:58,460 --> 01:14:59,140
And so she has.

1515
01:14:59,140 --> 01:15:02,980
And in order to accommodate the
time off that she needs coming

1516
01:15:02,980 --> 01:15:07,810
up when she has a personal
medical issue that,

1517
01:15:07,810 --> 01:15:10,120
you know, instead of
having to raise it here

1518
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:14,320
every time at the commission
that you authorize the mayor

1519
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:17,710
just to work directly with her
to accommodate that, you know,

1520
01:15:17,710 --> 01:15:21,460
so that she's got the
appropriate and necessary

1521
01:15:21,460 --> 01:15:24,790
amount of time to
deal with the things

1522
01:15:24,790 --> 01:15:28,120
that she has to deal with.

1523
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,010
Yeah Thank you.

1524
01:15:31,010 --> 01:15:31,750
Thank you, Andrew.

1525
01:15:31,750 --> 01:15:34,990
Yep the only other thing
I wanted to mention was I

1526
01:15:34,990 --> 01:15:39,250
updated the city's
general website to discuss

1527
01:15:39,250 --> 01:15:41,420
the August special election.

1528
01:15:41,420 --> 01:15:45,100
So that is uploaded onto
the city clerk's page

1529
01:15:45,100 --> 01:15:47,770
and there will be an
advertisement in the newspaper

1530
01:15:47,770 --> 01:15:51,430
in April 2nd as required
by statute to announce

1531
01:15:51,430 --> 01:15:53,950
the same and one
qualification books are ready

1532
01:15:53,950 --> 01:15:55,580
and as required by our code.

1533
01:15:55,580 --> 01:15:57,700
That is something
that must be purchased

1534
01:15:57,700 --> 01:16:00,110
prior to running for office.

1535
01:16:00,110 --> 01:16:02,200
And I also updated
that there will

1536
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,770
be no city municipal election.

1537
01:16:04,770 --> 01:16:08,650
I understand that there is still
a primary presidential primary,

1538
01:16:08,650 --> 01:16:10,720
but that is not a city.

1539
01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:12,830
So I've had a few
questions about that.

1540
01:16:12,830 --> 01:16:15,040
The polling locations
will be open, both Warren

1541
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,600
Webster and community center.

1542
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,060
But again, that has nothing
to do with me or you.

1543
01:16:20,060 --> 01:16:23,080
All that is solely based on
the supervisor of elections

1544
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:26,680
and based on whatever party
someone's affiliated with.

1545
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:28,760
So that's been updated as well.

1546
01:16:28,760 --> 01:16:34,010
Amber, just to note, I think the
Warren Webster is still closed.

1547
01:16:34,010 --> 01:16:37,220
It's we are opening it for
the they're going to do

1548
01:16:37,220 --> 01:16:38,550
it for the primary in March.

1549
01:16:38,550 --> 01:16:42,570
And we have a contract with
the supervisor of elections.

1550
01:16:42,570 --> 01:16:47,460
So yes, seven a to 0.07
pounds and that's all I have.

1551
01:16:47,460 --> 01:16:48,410
Thank you.

1552
01:16:48,410 --> 01:16:53,240
You included a fourth, did you?

1553
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:54,560
Yeah Thank you.

1554
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:57,650
So for all the
new commissioners,

1555
01:16:57,650 --> 01:17:01,820
we do lobbyist reporting
and you've seen the emails

1556
01:17:01,820 --> 01:17:06,020
with the registrations for
2024 copy of the fillable log

1557
01:17:06,020 --> 01:17:11,690
to keep track of that report is
due by these individuals listed

1558
01:17:11,690 --> 01:17:15,500
minus the ex commissioners
every quarter

1559
01:17:15,500 --> 01:17:16,710
at the end of every quarter.

1560
01:17:16,710 --> 01:17:20,510
And a reminder, email goes out
with another blank attachment,

1561
01:17:20,510 --> 01:17:23,930
a reminder of who is registered
and a due date of the tenth

1562
01:17:23,930 --> 01:17:25,020
of the following month.

1563
01:17:25,020 --> 01:17:27,270
So these were the
fourth quarter.

1564
01:17:27,270 --> 01:17:29,480
End of the quarter
was December 31.

1565
01:17:29,480 --> 01:17:32,390
Filers were requested to
turn in a report or an email

1566
01:17:32,390 --> 01:17:36,090
stating none by January 10th.

1567
01:17:36,090 --> 01:17:37,910
And so I prepare
my office, prepares

1568
01:17:37,910 --> 01:17:40,490
a report for your reviews
at a commission meeting

1569
01:17:40,490 --> 01:17:41,730
soon thereafter.

1570
01:17:41,730 --> 01:17:44,840
And I only send one reminder.

1571
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:46,440
I don't I don't keep going.

1572
01:17:46,440 --> 01:17:48,160
So you see what you see.

1573
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:50,970


1574
01:17:50,970 --> 01:17:53,990
Do you mind if I can just
piggyback on that real quick?

1575
01:17:53,990 --> 01:17:56,420
To all the lobbyists who
registered that are watching

1576
01:17:56,420 --> 01:17:58,280
this at the first
of the year, you're

1577
01:17:58,280 --> 01:18:00,800
required to reregister,
pay a new fee,

1578
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:02,560
fill in a new application.

1579
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:05,810
I have told as many attorneys
as I can as a kind reminder,

1580
01:18:05,810 --> 01:18:07,370
but if you were a
lobbyist last year,

1581
01:18:07,370 --> 01:18:10,820
you're required to file another
application as of January 1st

1582
01:18:10,820 --> 01:18:11,320
this year.

1583
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:15,630


1584
01:18:15,630 --> 01:18:17,670
I think we need to
add a discussion

1585
01:18:17,670 --> 01:18:22,230
to the next commission
meeting about this

1586
01:18:22,230 --> 01:18:25,140
because I'm looking
at the city clerk sent

1587
01:18:25,140 --> 01:18:30,960
me a copy at my request
of the Q3 report as well.

1588
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:34,420
And this is extremely.

1589
01:18:34,420 --> 01:18:38,820
Distressing that we
have at the moment.

1590
01:18:38,820 --> 01:18:41,700
Two board members on
the planning board.

1591
01:18:41,700 --> 01:18:43,080
Now, these are the
individuals who

1592
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:47,580
hear all the cup applications.

1593
01:18:47,580 --> 01:18:51,540
We did not fill out
Q3 report still,

1594
01:18:51,540 --> 01:18:54,960
and they still haven't
filled out Q4 report.

1595
01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,390
Now, these are individuals
who are hearing,

1596
01:18:57,390 --> 01:19:01,740
you know, at hearings directly
from lobbyists in their.

1597
01:19:01,740 --> 01:19:03,030
And we have no idea
who you're talking

1598
01:19:03,030 --> 01:19:05,550
to because you're not filling
out a simple report that

1599
01:19:05,550 --> 01:19:07,050
takes two seconds.

1600
01:19:07,050 --> 01:19:12,210
And I think the commissioners
need to look I'll

1601
01:19:12,210 --> 01:19:14,780
look at my appointees as well.

1602
01:19:14,780 --> 01:19:17,400
And especially the
repeat offenders.

1603
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:18,960
I mean, that's.

1604
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:20,610
Six months.

1605
01:19:20,610 --> 01:19:22,030
You can fill out the report.

1606
01:19:22,030 --> 01:19:23,010
Come on.

1607
01:19:23,010 --> 01:19:25,180
These these are
grounds for removal.

1608
01:19:25,180 --> 01:19:25,760
I think.

1609
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:27,360
And this is a discussion
I think we need to have

1610
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:28,870
about those individuals.

1611
01:19:28,870 --> 01:19:33,240
Because you're now actively
violating a city ordinance.

1612
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:33,970
OK, that's fine.

1613
01:19:33,970 --> 01:19:34,570
I can add that.

1614
01:19:34,570 --> 01:19:36,270
And then I'll go
ahead and add all

1615
01:19:36,270 --> 01:19:39,090
of the supporting
documentation for 2023,

1616
01:19:39,090 --> 01:19:40,870
all reports quarter one
through quarter four.

1617
01:19:40,870 --> 01:19:43,246
So you can see consistency.

1618
01:19:43,246 --> 01:19:46,680


1619
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:49,230
Thank you, city clerk.

1620
01:19:49,230 --> 01:19:49,835
City manager.

1621
01:19:49,835 --> 01:19:55,130


1622
01:19:55,130 --> 01:19:56,480
Wayne anything?

1623
01:19:56,480 --> 01:19:57,120
No, Thank you.

1624
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:58,970
All right.

1625
01:19:58,970 --> 01:19:59,930
She's looking at my notes.

1626
01:19:59,930 --> 01:20:00,780
Make sure you just.

1627
01:20:00,780 --> 01:20:05,540
You just shocked by the time
that we have on the clock.

1628
01:20:05,540 --> 01:20:07,310
City attorney?

1629
01:20:07,310 --> 01:20:08,150
No, sir.

1630
01:20:08,150 --> 01:20:10,130
Enough for one night.

1631
01:20:10,130 --> 01:20:13,760
Done enough damage
for one night.

1632
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:14,260
All right.

1633
01:20:14,260 --> 01:20:15,530
District four.

1634
01:20:15,530 --> 01:20:16,910
Yes Thank you, mayor.

1635
01:20:16,910 --> 01:20:18,170
A couple of things.

1636
01:20:18,170 --> 01:20:21,440
First of all, there's a
planning board vacancy.

1637
01:20:21,440 --> 01:20:24,950
Melinda Pletcher resigned
about a week or so ago,

1638
01:20:24,950 --> 01:20:28,970
so we're actively recruiting
for a replacement on that.

1639
01:20:28,970 --> 01:20:30,740
So I guess the way
it works is let

1640
01:20:30,740 --> 01:20:31,940
me know when the
other commissioners

1641
01:20:31,940 --> 01:20:34,040
know if you're interested.

1642
01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:37,790
So we hope we can get that
filled with the consent

1643
01:20:37,790 --> 01:20:40,100
of my fellow commissioners.

1644
01:20:40,100 --> 01:20:44,330
The trash pickup issue for
pass-a-grille that you're all

1645
01:20:44,330 --> 01:20:46,820
very familiar with by now
is just getting hotter

1646
01:20:46,820 --> 01:20:48,610
and hotter from the residents.

1647
01:20:48,610 --> 01:20:53,030
So what I'd like to
do is on the 13th,

1648
01:20:53,030 --> 01:20:56,430
add that to the agenda to
have another presentation

1649
01:20:56,430 --> 01:21:00,000
by either the city
manager or Mike Clark

1650
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,970
to give us an update on
where we're at with that.

1651
01:21:02,970 --> 01:21:06,870
And I'm hoping there's some
kind of partial interim solution

1652
01:21:06,870 --> 01:21:09,540
wrapped into that so we can
get that at least partially

1653
01:21:09,540 --> 01:21:12,570
solved along the way here.

1654
01:21:12,570 --> 01:21:16,710
The other thing is dog park, for
those listening at Hurley park

1655
01:21:16,710 --> 01:21:18,250
has been torn apart.

1656
01:21:18,250 --> 01:21:20,430
They're putting in
irrigation and they're

1657
01:21:20,430 --> 01:21:21,940
going to give grass a try.

1658
01:21:21,940 --> 01:21:23,500
So we'll see how that all goes.

1659
01:21:23,500 --> 01:21:25,180
But that's actively
happening right now.

1660
01:21:25,180 --> 01:21:26,810
They should be done
with that within a week.

1661
01:21:26,810 --> 01:21:30,640
I'd say kudos to
Jennifer and Mandy.

1662
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:31,960
I hope I got the
right department.

1663
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:35,670
Parks and rec, the sand
that's been overflowing

1664
01:21:35,670 --> 01:21:39,180
the seawall between first and
4th Avenue and pass-a-grille

1665
01:21:39,180 --> 01:21:40,460
said dog park.

1666
01:21:40,460 --> 01:21:41,680
It's gotten really bad.

1667
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:43,180
I mean, it looks like
winter out there.

1668
01:21:43,180 --> 01:21:45,130
It's just blowing in
drifts across the street.

1669
01:21:45,130 --> 01:21:48,690
And I think the folks
from parks and recs

1670
01:21:48,690 --> 01:21:52,050
have already started putting
up 4 by 4s with wooden planks

1671
01:21:52,050 --> 01:21:54,570
to keep that sand at
Bay until they can

1672
01:21:54,570 --> 01:21:56,080
come up with a better solution.

1673
01:21:56,080 --> 01:22:00,330
So my compliments to them
for listening to our problems

1674
01:22:00,330 --> 01:22:03,570
with that and the residents
down in pass-a-grille with that.

1675
01:22:03,570 --> 01:22:08,850
Lastly, I am going to hold on
7th February, kind of a meet

1676
01:22:08,850 --> 01:22:12,180
and greet for district four
residents at Hurley park,

1677
01:22:12,180 --> 01:22:16,920
so that'll be between 5 and 6
PM I'm going to try and do it

1678
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,420
the first and third
Wednesday of each month.

1679
01:22:19,420 --> 01:22:22,650
But for February
21st, we all know

1680
01:22:22,650 --> 01:22:24,600
we're here, so that won't
be happening that date,

1681
01:22:24,600 --> 01:22:27,930
but that'll be at Hurley
park between 5 and 6 PM

1682
01:22:27,930 --> 01:22:29,250
and we'll put that
out on some kind

1683
01:22:29,250 --> 01:22:33,510
of announcement with the
city clerk's assistance.

1684
01:22:33,510 --> 01:22:34,210
That's all I have.

1685
01:22:34,210 --> 01:22:34,930
Thank you, mayor.

1686
01:22:34,930 --> 01:22:35,780
Thank you.

1687
01:22:35,780 --> 01:22:37,980
District three.

1688
01:22:37,980 --> 01:22:42,870
Yes so a couple of
meetings from my district

1689
01:22:42,870 --> 01:22:45,180
that are up and coming, one
being the annual meeting

1690
01:22:45,180 --> 01:22:49,810
for the neighborhood, which
is February 13 at 6:00

1691
01:22:49,810 --> 01:22:54,210
PM the Lido association
also reached out to do

1692
01:22:54,210 --> 01:22:56,520
very similar meet and greets.

1693
01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:59,260
So I've had different
neighborhoods reaching out.

1694
01:22:59,260 --> 01:23:02,500
Maybe I should have done
one and do everybody.

1695
01:23:02,500 --> 01:23:06,510
But so I do have that
one for and it's not

1696
01:23:06,510 --> 01:23:08,400
confirmed most definitely,
because I know they're

1697
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:09,310
going to get back to me.

1698
01:23:09,310 --> 01:23:12,540
But they did give me the
February 15 date just for those

1699
01:23:12,540 --> 01:23:14,610
who are listening,
maybe you could

1700
01:23:14,610 --> 01:23:20,380
reach out to your Association
President to verify the date.

1701
01:23:20,380 --> 01:23:22,650
I haven't spoken with
anyone from Belle vista yet,

1702
01:23:22,650 --> 01:23:24,000
but I know I've
had some residents

1703
01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:25,240
asking me the same thing.

1704
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:29,700
So for now, I think that would
be the best way is probably

1705
01:23:29,700 --> 01:23:31,200
to coordinate it
with the meetings

1706
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:34,000
that the neighborhoods
are holding.

1707
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:38,200
So I can meet you all.

1708
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:41,130
I just wanted to put out this
for Because I know there's

1709
01:23:41,130 --> 01:23:44,460
several neighborhoods, including
Belle vista and residents,

1710
01:23:44,460 --> 01:23:47,160
not to mention in Lido, because
I've met with a couple who have

1711
01:23:47,160 --> 01:23:49,590
a lot of concern about
flooding, especially

1712
01:23:49,590 --> 01:23:50,530
with the last storms.

1713
01:23:50,530 --> 01:23:52,320
And me, myself,
as a resident, I'm

1714
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:58,020
concerned about flooding
in less than 12 months,

1715
01:23:58,020 --> 01:24:01,740
many neighborhoods
flooded significantly

1716
01:24:01,740 --> 01:24:04,560
impacting infrastructure.

1717
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:08,670
I know so in the Don Cesar
haven't had any response yet

1718
01:24:08,670 --> 01:24:11,790
back but just know
that I am aware of it

1719
01:24:11,790 --> 01:24:16,090
and that I am going to try
to help in that situation.

1720
01:24:16,090 --> 01:24:19,020
For for those of you who are
experiencing that, because it

1721
01:24:19,020 --> 01:24:21,270
is pretty significant
what's been

1722
01:24:21,270 --> 01:24:23,980
happening as far as
infrastructure falling apart.

1723
01:24:23,980 --> 01:24:29,250
And then I just wanted to give a
kudos out to the save the dunes

1724
01:24:29,250 --> 01:24:33,510
group because I did participate
at their meeting that was held

1725
01:24:33,510 --> 01:24:36,420
in Don vista, and I know they
already went out to district 4

1726
01:24:36,420 --> 01:24:38,180
and worked on the beaches.

1727
01:24:38,180 --> 01:24:41,110
But I think it's really nice
that another city, treasure

1728
01:24:41,110 --> 01:24:43,330
island, was able to
work with a group

1729
01:24:43,330 --> 01:24:49,090
here in our city to pass along
the idea of helping the city

1730
01:24:49,090 --> 01:24:51,610
and helping the dunes, which
is the removal of exotic or

1731
01:24:51,610 --> 01:24:53,780
invasive species
in our dune system.

1732
01:24:53,780 --> 01:24:57,100
And it was a great presentation.

1733
01:24:57,100 --> 01:24:59,680
And I know if we reach
out maybe to Jennifer,

1734
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:02,140
I'm just putting you out
there, Jennifer, in the city

1735
01:25:02,140 --> 01:25:04,310
that you could pass
along that information.

1736
01:25:04,310 --> 01:25:07,270
I don't know if it's posted
right now on the website,

1737
01:25:07,270 --> 01:25:11,230
but they meet on
Fridays for one hour.

1738
01:25:11,230 --> 01:25:14,650
And what you can get in one
hour and then move on, right.

1739
01:25:14,650 --> 01:25:16,100
And then meet again
in the next Friday.

1740
01:25:16,100 --> 01:25:17,600
So it's a slow process.

1741
01:25:17,600 --> 01:25:19,720
If you've ever been weeding
and gardening, it is slow,

1742
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:23,050
but it will be really
nice, you know,

1743
01:25:23,050 --> 01:25:24,710
to get some of that saved.

1744
01:25:24,710 --> 01:25:27,220
So they did a lot of work in
pass a grille not too long

1745
01:25:27,220 --> 01:25:29,420
ago removing fountain grass.

1746
01:25:29,420 --> 01:25:33,250
So I put it out there because
education and information

1747
01:25:33,250 --> 01:25:36,160
is important because a
lot of these invasives

1748
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:38,620
are because we love how
some of these plants

1749
01:25:38,620 --> 01:25:40,990
look like in our
home, not realizing

1750
01:25:40,990 --> 01:25:43,510
how much it's spreading
seeds all over the place.

1751
01:25:43,510 --> 01:25:44,810
And it's not
supposed to be there.

1752
01:25:44,810 --> 01:25:46,670
So get involved
because it's out there.

1753
01:25:46,670 --> 01:25:47,950
So thank you.

1754
01:25:47,950 --> 01:25:49,090
Thank you.

1755
01:25:49,090 --> 01:25:50,800
District two.

1756
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,770
Yes just wanted to
remind everyone,

1757
01:25:53,770 --> 01:25:56,080
there's a town Hall
for district two

1758
01:25:56,080 --> 01:26:00,010
this Thursday at 5:30
and commission chambers.

1759
01:26:00,010 --> 01:26:02,450
The agenda is posted online.

1760
01:26:02,450 --> 01:26:06,490
There also will be
a link to view it

1761
01:26:06,490 --> 01:26:10,030
digitally if you can't make it.

1762
01:26:10,030 --> 01:26:12,970
City manager qu and
public works director

1763
01:26:12,970 --> 01:26:18,460
will be there to comment on
some of the items on the agenda.

1764
01:26:18,460 --> 01:26:23,950
And also I wanted to
comment on the event

1765
01:26:23,950 --> 01:26:27,490
Friday that the fire department
put on for the pushing

1766
01:26:27,490 --> 01:26:28,520
of their new truck.

1767
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:32,080
The mayor was there as well,
did a really nice job with that.

1768
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:34,390
And I know mark, our
communications manager,

1769
01:26:34,390 --> 01:26:37,420
did a good job
advertising and putting

1770
01:26:37,420 --> 01:26:38,840
up some pictures of that.

1771
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,130
And I encourage our
residents to attend

1772
01:26:41,130 --> 01:26:44,520
those events in the future.

1773
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:45,160
That's it.

1774
01:26:45,160 --> 01:26:46,030
Thank you.

1775
01:26:46,030 --> 01:26:47,520
District one.

1776
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:49,020
Yeah Thank you.

1777
01:26:49,020 --> 01:26:51,990
So I'd like to
officially welcome

1778
01:26:51,990 --> 01:26:54,810
my appointee to the beach
stewardship committee.

1779
01:26:54,810 --> 01:26:59,850
Brad Panek is a local guy who's
both a resident in district

1780
01:26:59,850 --> 01:27:06,360
one, and he also has a business
in district one and a small kid

1781
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:08,230
and really invested
in the community.

1782
01:27:08,230 --> 01:27:11,280
And so I think he's going to
be a great asset to the city,

1783
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:13,830
and I'm proud to have him
be my appointee to the beach

1784
01:27:13,830 --> 01:27:15,330
stewardship committee.

1785
01:27:15,330 --> 01:27:17,760
I also wanted to mention that
I've had several residents

1786
01:27:17,760 --> 01:27:20,400
reach out to me as well in
district one about flooding,

1787
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:23,400
because in our neighborhood,
even though sometimes we think

1788
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:25,920
we're the high
spot on the beach,

1789
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:31,800
we still have, you know, some
blocks from 73rd to 80th or so

1790
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,350
where people have had
water in their houses

1791
01:27:34,350 --> 01:27:37,080
a couple times this year.

1792
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:40,500
And I've had a couple residents
ask if we wanted if we would

1793
01:27:40,500 --> 01:27:44,800
consider or if there was some
thought to creating a citizen

1794
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:47,770
flood advisory board
to look at those issues

1795
01:27:47,770 --> 01:27:51,520
and to, you know, a group
of citizens who can help us

1796
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,220
keep track of those
things and, you know,

1797
01:27:54,220 --> 01:27:55,923
help come up with solutions
and that sort of thing.

1798
01:27:55,923 --> 01:27:57,790
So I don't know if that might
be something that we might

1799
01:27:57,790 --> 01:28:00,160
want to address in the future.

1800
01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:01,280
And that's all I've got.

1801
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:02,750
Thanks great.

1802
01:28:02,750 --> 01:28:03,350
Thank you.

1803
01:28:03,350 --> 01:28:05,440
Thank you, everyone,
for coming tonight.

1804
01:28:05,440 --> 01:28:07,950
We are adjourned.

1805
01:28:07,950 --> 01:28:39,000