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Let us pray. Heavenly Father, uh we come
to you tonight just to say thank you for

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letting us serve. I hope you give us the
wisdom and knowledge and capability to

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make good decisions for the town. Uh
since this is a political meeting, I

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just want to take a moment to to just
wish that you would put your hand on us.

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I know the last few weeks have been very
decisive in our uh larger community and

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I just want you to take care of
everybody. Uh just uh remember to to

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love our neighbors wherever they may be.
>> Uh I with that uh pray these things in

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your son's holy name, Jesus Christ.
Amen.

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» Amen.
>> Let's do the pledge of allegiance.

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» I pledge
>> pledge of allegiance

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» to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it

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stands. One nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice

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for all.

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[clears throat]

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» Call this meeting to order. [snorts]
First on the agenda,

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Chief Franks. Little presentation,
please.

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» Good evening, Mayor and Council. Um, I'd
like to call up Officer Jacob Grimes up

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here. Um, as you all know, uh, we like
to recognize our police officers when

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they, uh, do great things for our
community, and this is one of those.

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Tonight, I'd like to recognize Officer
Grimes for a life-saving award. And I'm

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going to read the memo. I think it,
although it's a little cumbersome, it it

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it says everything. Uh, the Stallings
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believes in recognition of officers and
their actions and service to the

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community. In keeping with this belief,
the Stallings Police Department

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recognizes Officer Jacob Grimes for
measures taken to save a life that

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occurred on December 13th, 2025.
[snorts] On that date, Grimes responded

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to Atrium Hospital at 3 about 3:40 in
the morning regarding a dog bite. Upon

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arrival, he found a victim who had been
bitten by a dog and subsequently had his

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arm broken. Um, the victim related to
Grimes that his mother had also been

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bitten, but he had left her at the
residence. Um, Officer Grimes made the

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decision to go to the house to check on
this elderly woman. When he got there,

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he found her uh or he heard an elderly
woman uh calling for help from inside

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the garage. Um, Grimes made entry in the
garage and located an elderly female on

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the floor who'd been bleeding heavily
and he realized that her foot had been

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delved by the dog. Uh recognizing severe
blood loss and injury along with the

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fact that the female victim is sitting
in the cold for unknown period of time

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uh officer Grimes made the immediate
decision to transport her to the

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hospital here in Stallings. Uh due to
her injuries, he picked her up and had

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to carry her to his squad car as time
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the car. Upon arrival of the hospital,
the female victim was stabilized and

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later transferred to Charlotte Hospital
for potential amputation of her foot. Uh

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and she is still currently in the
hospital. Officer Grimes demonstrated

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exceptional judgment, professionalism,
and dedication to the preservation of

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life. Had it not been for the decisive
actions taken by Officer Grimes, the

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victim would have succumbed to her
injuries due to the continued blood loss

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and shock. His actions reflect the
highest standards of law enforcement

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service and brings credit himself and
the Stallings Police Department. And his

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actions such as this and his sense of
duty that helps continue to make our

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community a safer place to work and
live. So, I ask everybody to uh

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congratulate him for a job well done.
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[applause]
>> Officer Grimes will have a certificate

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and the memorandum of his actions that
night and he will receive a life-saving

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ribbon uh to put on his uniform. So,
Jacob, congratulations. Thank you.

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» Absolutely.

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» Stand up.
>> Come on over.

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[clears throat]
He always looks so happy. [laughter]

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» You're in it.

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[clears throat]
>> Congrats.

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Next up, we have public comments.
The only person that signed up is

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Clarence Alselbrooks. Hello, Clarence.
>> Of course, that's going to be hard to

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follow, but
all right. Um, good evening, mayor and

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council. My name is Clarence Als Brooks,
Jr. I'm not a resident of Stalins, but I

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uh come with a disclaimer. I'm a
resident of Indian Trail. My disclaimer

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is that I am also a council member in
Indian Trail. So, my um my comments may

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not necessarily reflect um or represent
the town of Indian Trail. My statements

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and opinions are my own and um
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are my own. First, I'd like to
congratulate your new mayor of Stalins.

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You are the right person for the job and
Stalins is blessed to have you.

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Congratulations to Graham and Mayor Pro
Tim Richardson. Um Stalins is known for

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its excellence with civility on this
board and I hope that you all work hard

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to continue that. Um, I actually grew up
in Indian Trail back when Indian Trail

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was only 2,000 citizens. Back then,
Stalins and Indian Trail were pretty

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much one big community. As a matter of
fact, I still have a lot of family

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members and friends here in Stalins.
With that said, I hope that Stalins and

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Indian Trail can work together to make
the western part of Union County a

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better place. Also, with that said,
tonight is my today is my wedding

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anniversary, so I'm going to leave here
so I can take my wife out. So,

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[laughter]
>> um, but with that, seriously, I, uh, you

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know, I enjoy coming to your meetings,
know most of you, hopefully to get to

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know the rest of you. You have a great
town attorney, um, along with everybody

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else. So, um, I hope that we can work
together in the future. So,

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» y'all,
thank you.

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» All right, I want to introduce you to
our two newest members, Mike Cousins and

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John Vandere.
>> Nice to meet you.

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» Thanks for being here. Someone just
shake their hand.

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» Sure.
>> Happy anniversary. [laughter]

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» Happy anniversary.

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» These are Clarence was the only one that
signed up ahead of time, but if there's

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anyone else that would like to speak,
this is public comments if you would

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like to speak.
All right,

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moving on to the consent agenda.

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May I move approval of the consent
agenda A through D?

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» I'll second.
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All in favor?
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[clears throat]
>> Excellent. That passes.

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Reports. Reports from the mayor.

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Been a quiet month. My holidays kept
things kind of quiet, but um I did have

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met with a number of constituents.
wanted to get together and talk about

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individual projects and um I met the uh
president of sale ethics which is the

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building up on Stallings Road that's
being built and they are excited to be

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moving into Stallings under one roof.
They currently have about five or six uh

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on a campus over in Matthews and they're
looking forward to having like I said

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one one building. He's looking very much
forward to uh coming into Stallings and

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hope to meet him here, bring him into a
council meeting and introduce him to the

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rest of y'all. That's all for the mayor.

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» Pam, anything?
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» I've got two quick things. Um, one was
we had a great uh town holiday party

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last week. So, uh, want to thank uh the
staff for putting that on. It was really

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nice. Uh, the mayor uh allowed me to
call a round of bingo, which I

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appreciated. Um although I'm nervous
speaking in front of crowds so it was a

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little bit different for [laughter] me.
Um and second was uh John and I attended

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a resident led meeting yesterday at the
Shannara HOA regarding the conditional

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zoning um for Stevens Village at the
corner of Stevens Mill and Idle Wild. We

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were there two and a half hours or so.
Um it was really well done. Jeannie

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Lindsay, who's a resident of Shannara,
put that on and it was a great way to uh

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share information for folks who were not
up to speed on everything that was going

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on and uh for John and I to help answer
some questions and uh get some new

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questions that we're going to find
answers to as well.

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» John, he didn't leave much for you, but
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» um No, nothing.
>> Nope. No, thank you. Uh it's been a

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quiet month. Nothing.
>> All right. All right.

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Agenda approval.
Mayor,

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» if you don't mind, I have I have several
things to report on.

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» Uh so again, want to echo the sentiments
of Council Member Cousins. Thank you to

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the council for your support and all the
all the staff that went there and

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Ununice for you and your team's work on
that. Thank you. Um got the budget uh in

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transfer list uh for y'all's
consideration. It's front of you. You

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don't need to make any decision, but
it's more like a report. Um

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secondly, the board last time expressed
an openness to doing a team building

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exercise with our new board members, our
new board as a whole. Um just trying to

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kind of grow and bond uh for the
betterment of the [clears throat] town.

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Uh the board asked for a couple things.
One, didn't want it to go anywhere far

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and wanted to keep the cost low. Uh if
if we could do it for free, that'd be

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the preference. So, uh, with Chief
Franks's help, we're able to secure the,

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uh, Matthews Police Department's police
simulator, training simulator, uh, think

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like, uh, uh, if a virtual reality video
game grew up, got a job, and, uh, it's

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very impressive, um, training process.
So, it'd be a good, I think, bonding

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experience for y'all to go through that
together, and also learn about some of

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the split decisions our police officers
have to make. So, um, is is anyone

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opposed to that? How does that sound to
y'all? Open to it. Okay. If everybody's

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good with that, then we'll send out some
dates and try to get something that

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works for the most people. Uh, also, one
thing you'll notice is uh, one of the

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initiatives we're trying to make here
internally is try really bring up the

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appearances of our facilities both from
a cleanliness standpoint and an

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appearances. We've had storm water
issues out back. You'll notice now

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there's some enhanced landscaping
planning eventually. I would love to do

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that out front to really set the tone
for our citizens and for our developers

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of the expectations we have here at the
town. And also we've tried to expand our

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um our contractor list of various
janitorial janitorial work. So we're

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going to work on that and hopefully that
addresses and brings it up to the

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standards that we would like. Um so that
concludes uh staff's report. Appreciate

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your time. Any other staff,

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[cough]
[clears throat]

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» Alex? Any other staff?
>> Yes, sir.

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» All right. Um, agenda approval.
>> I do have we received a request, mayor,

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uh, from the developer regarding the Mil
Creek uh, regarding the the process and

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wanting to do the presentation earlier
in the agenda. Um, the applicant is here

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if you'd like to hear from them from
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» They're first down here.
>> They're next. I believe they have a

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request to to hear uh have the
presentation done uh prior to the

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decision on annexation, but they're
here. I'll defer to them with their

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request.
>> Well, I think our normal procedure is

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the annexation always goes first,
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project. And I don't think we need to
add that to our agenda this evening or a

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change in our agenda this evening. Let's
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as is.

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I move that we approve the agenda as
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» I'll second.
>> All in favor?

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» I. [snorts]
>> All right. Next up, annexation 58 Mil

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Creek.
>> Yes. Um, Mayor Shaw, um, this is an

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annexation for a 12.571 acre parcel on
Highway 74. council will be most

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familiar with it near the cookout and
Starbucks on Highway 74 in Indian Trail.

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It's right on the edge of that. This is
the final step in annexation where you

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will adopt the ordinance that extends
Stalling's boundaries. We just need to

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open the public hearing, see if there's
anyone here to speak on that, close it,

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and then council can speak on whether or
not you want to annex that parcel into

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the town.
>> All righty. So, I'll open the public

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hearing. Anybody that would like to
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Well,
one more time. No. All right. I'll close

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the public hearing and uh move to
council discussion. Lori, would you like

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to lead us off?
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yeah. I you know I [clears throat] was
thinking a lot about um what our our

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role here is and
we should be working to benefit the town

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to make the town better and I I don't
see how this annexation

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fits into
um making it better. I I mean I'm

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talking a little bit about the um site
plan also, but

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you know what we're trying to do what
we're trying to achieve is have less um

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residential and more commercial. And
when something like this comes along,

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it it doesn't make any sense to me,
especially that it's on Route 74 that,

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you know, is mainly commercial except
for, you know, a couple residents across

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the street. Um,
so I I'm feeling that I'm feeling

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negative about this project, about the
annexation

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because it it's not going to benefit
anybody in the town or the town.

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» Okay. [clears throat]
>> Itself,

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» anybody else?

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» Mayor, what's the
staff? What's the what's the requested

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annexation and what's the surrounding
annexual

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[clears throat]

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74?

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» So the requested is
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just
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just talking
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annexing the parcel into the town.
>> Now withdraw my question. Well, wait a

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minute. I thought when we annex
something in, it does come in with a

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zoning attached to it.
>> That's what we're they're asking to.

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» Okay. But for that brief sliver of
moment as we move from four to five, it

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gets some type of prezoning effectively.

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Any other comments?
I tend to lean toward um what Lori was

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thinking as well is that um upon
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it's kind of like if you're walking down
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ground, you go, "Oh, this is great. We
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now." Um but thinking more about the
surrounding area, the difficulty of

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getting in and out of there. Um and
the fact that as Lori said as well, it's

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more residential than commercial. Um, so
it would be an easy thing to say yes to.

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Um, I think without deep consideration,
but thinking about it more, I don't know

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that it aligns with what we want to do.
>> I think that's I'll just say it real

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quick. I mean, I think that's it is that
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strategic goals and uh I think that's
ultimately the problem. We all know here

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that we're currently out of sync when it
comes to a ratio between commercial,

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industrial, and um residential. And with
the limited capacity of sewer on this

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side of town, uh this this particular
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available sewer or and even the new
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coming to us for the 74 corridor. And
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our goals to use that sewer capacity for
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» There again, we're talking use, not
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things. And I assume maybe that's why
the developer wanted to or the applicant

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wanted to do the presentation.
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I guess the question would be is the
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» Landowner is not here. So the question
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Oh, sorry.
>> I guess my my question was is the land

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owner here and would the land owner like
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» I can speak on behalf of land owner in
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» Well, I guess the question is would you
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Stylings if um what seems like the Can I
address an audience? I'm not sure what

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protocol is, but if the council looks
like we're proposed to say no to the uh

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use, um [clears throat] would you like
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» I think
they go together. That's why there's got

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no

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reason.
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then I'll [snorts] make the motion to
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comment. I
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what's happening. So, go ahead.
>> Oh, I just wanted to say uh regard

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without [clears throat]
getting into the use, I

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my position is that I I recently drove
this I go over this area a lot for

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trivia and that section of road is not
conducive to pulling out. I just my

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concern is anything that we add in that
regardless of use. Uh anything that's

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added there, it's going to create more
congestion. It's going to potentially

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create accidents. And I don't see how
that adds value to our town when we've

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annexed a lot of properties.
So my my position is I think I would be

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against the annexation for that those
reasons regardless of whatever the use

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it would be.
based on Brad's question to the land

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owner to the representative the land
owner that if the board was not inclined

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to approve the subsequent action on the
CZ that we would be doing a disservice

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to the land owner
in annexation. So for that I would

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that we do not

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» All right. So there's Can I ask one
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» I don't know. Well,
>> I'm not you're not known for only asking

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one question
>> that ask as many questions as you guys

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want. that
is I mean and I might not

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this may not be a good question so you
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know that there's been discussions about
this project now for several months and

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there's been discussions in committee
and within the staff about the fact that

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this project
probably was not very favorable. Um, and

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I think there's even been some proposals
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this particular project about a
different layout, different components.

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Was there is that still a consideration
or we pretty much exactly what the plan

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is that's being submitted tonight?

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» Yeah.
>> Yes.

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Um Lisa Thompson, [clears throat]
um Wendy's consultant with Morgan Van

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Allen. Um from what I understand, you
guys have 60 days to zone the property

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after annexation. So that was one of the
questions is um what what zoning do we

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put on it if it's annexed and not zoned?
Um no, if you're leaning towards not

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approving the resoning, we would ask
that we not be annexed. Um we would like

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to be given the opportunity to present
the the plan and and the development. Um

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if you'll um postpone the decision for
the annexation to at least um hear the

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um
the the presentation or vote favorably

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and you you guys if you deny the
reasonzoning, it's my understanding that

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this evening you can resend the vote for
annexation as well. So there's a few

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options. Um, but if you don't even want
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» this is highly out of our norm. We don't
[snorts] reverse the order. I can't

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remember ever.
>> Do we ever re No, don't need to answer.

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» I mean, if
>> So, we're going to vote for the

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annexation.
>> Okay.

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» And then if need be, we will vote on the
project.

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» Hey, can I believe there's a motion on
the floor? Brad, did you make the motion

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or did somebody interrupt you?
>> Yes. Assuming you close the public

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hearing, then I had made the motion to
um not approve the res.

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» Second,
>> excuse me, not approve the annexation.

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Sorry.
>> Second.

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» All right. How's council [clears throat]
vote on this?

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» Call the
>> All in favor?

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» I
>> I

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» unanimous. No, I didn't hear all of
them. I'm I'm going to be a n on that

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one because I I felt like there was more
questions that needed to be answered.

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» All righty.
So, we're not annexing this parcel.

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Um [clears throat]
there's no need to

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uh Melanie, how do we deal with uh the
next item? Seven, six, four. I mean,

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» if it I mean, if it's not in the town,
you can't zone it.

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» Yeah. So, we're going to skip it or
withdraw it from the

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» Yeah. suspend the
>> I'm I'm a little worried because right

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when applications come in, we have a
decision has to be made within a certain

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period of time.

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So we would would we suspend the rules
and then remove it from the agenda?

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» Should we make a motion?
>> I mean it' be easy. I make a

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Yeah. Just take a second. Okay.

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Melony, do do we need a motion to make
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» I [clears throat] think you're better
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my concern is is right. They've paid the
application fee. They've done everything

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we've asked them to do in terms of
submitting the application and a

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decision is supposed to be issued in a
certain amount of time. So I understand

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we can't do anything if it's not
annexed. But at the same time um

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we have heard this presentation
at least once or twice already. They're

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just putting less commercial in I guess
with this last one.

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So there was a I wasn't here at the July
meeting. There was a public hearing in

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the presentation. heard it
from X meeting

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and then we deferred it against January.
>> So there's been a hearing on it. There

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just is was not a vote on it.
>> Correct.

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» And the annexation was what? Just not on
that agenda.

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» Madam Attorney, I I feel pretty
confident that the applicant would

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withdraw their

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that feels like that would solve your
concern. Imagine

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them not doing that.

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We're confirming

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Have you got a decision

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» normally asked by somebody to pull
application for the reason?

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I
>> only ask the question the way it should

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be asked legally. Please

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Oh yeah. Yeah. We can't
>> we don't have jury.

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» While all of that is true, we still have
a process and procedure, right? When

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developers submit applications and when
decisions should be made at a within a

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certain period of time. So we've never
we've never had this decision. Normally

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what happens is
if it does not pass then someone who

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voted for the annexation makes a motion
to reconsider the vote before the end of

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the meeting.
Um and that

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» reconsider the annexation.
>> Correct. Okay.

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» Correct. That's how I've seen that.
We've done that at least two or three

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times in the past.
>> So you're saying let them present.

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» I think that's the safer route.
>> Okay.

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But but you but you already voted on the
annexation.

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» We did.
>> And

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» as we always do, we do it in sequence.
>> Okay.

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» And so someone who voted
no,

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» which would be me.
>> No, they they all voted no.

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» Steve voted. Oh, I voted
>> yes. Okay.

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» Would have to make a motion to
reconsider.

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» Reconsider the annexation.
>> Correct.

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» When? Now.
>> Right now. Yes.

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» No.
Why would we do that? We just voted no.

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» Because I just wanted it to be clean and
I don't want to leave the door open for

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any
>> legal challenges based on the process

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and the procedure and
>> how our rules are after the

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presentation. You could re you could
reconsider the annexation.

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» Why would we need a presentation? We
don't

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» if I mean if you don't want to do the
presentation

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» I just I wasn't here in July so that's
why I'm a little

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» uneasy about the whole process and
what's happened. So was there because if

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it was presented in July
y'all didn't vote on the annex there was

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there an annexation on the agenda?
>> Yeah they were both

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» it was deferred. It was deferred. But
was there a public hearing?

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» Should we take a uh short recess to pull
up the agenda from July and see what it

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is?
>> Yeah, that's that's what Miss Nichols is

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looking up right now.
>> I'm trying to do the same. [snorts]

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all they were just that
never did just we would

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Okay. Um, according to the minutes from
the July meeting, the public hearing was

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opened and then continued, but it does
not indicate that any presentation took

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place

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» August.
>> I know we

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» that was July.
>> I know that they've given us a

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presentation

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um is the so [clears throat] the
procedure in which you're doing this

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like it's an order issue.

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Um,
>> you introduce yourself, please.

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[clears throat]
>> Sure. My name is Kerent

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town member as of July 31.

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» Thank you.

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question as far as

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» our procedure is always to do the
annexation vote first and separate from

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the project that might follow and that's
where we're at tonight and and basically

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I can't imag I don't recall another one
that went differently so that's where

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we're at.
>> Sure.

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And welcome to Stallings. [laughter]
I've seen you a few times at our

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meetings. Um, nice to know who you are.
>> Anybody can come, of course.

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» And where at installings are you?
>> Uh, Stones right at

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» right before the
>> Okay.

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So,

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» we are in a recess for
>> You need a vote on the recess or no? Or

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you just call the rec?
>> I'm just calling a recess for a couple

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minutes till we get this researched.

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Do you want to make a motion to suspend
the rules to add a close session.

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» To do what?
>> Add a close session.

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» Uh, yes.
>> I make a motion.

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» Is the mayor allowed to do that?
>> I'll do it.

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» I'm new, so I'm like
>> I make a motion to suspend the rules

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going into close
>> session under um NCJS143-318.11a.

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It's either three or six. Three. Okay.
Three.

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» Second.
>> All in favor?

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» I I don't vote. All right, we'll be
back.