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Good afternoon, everyone and members.

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We're going to go ahead and begin while everybody starts taking their way in.

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They're one of those, sure.

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For today's consideration of the bills, we're gonna be holding SB 1131.

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And we will start with, in the order of bills SB 104074,

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1423 and 1754.

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So that'll be the Order of The Bills.

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And represent the student, will you please move the first bill, bill SB 1074.

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Do things differently here.

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Thank you, Madam Chair, and with the SB10, so for the return of the due pass recommendation.

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Okay, Justin, can you face it by the vote?

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Madame Vice Chairman, Senate Bill 1024 stipulates that if a teacher moves a student from a classroom according to student.

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conduct rules, a principal or administrator may direct a student to return to the classroom only if the principal

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or administrative provides the teacher a written certification that states the

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principal

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or administrators authorizing the student be readmitted and that describes any

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disciplinary action taken in response to students behavior with that. I'm available for questions members any questions for Jasmine

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Seeing none. Okay.

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I think I saw Mr. Kevin or senator Kevin outside if he's ready

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Thank you

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Welcome Mr. Senator Kavanagh, we're ready to ready for your bill SB 1074

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Okay, sorry I got way laid

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Constituent there number one of course. Thank you members

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one the leading

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courses of losing teachers is

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Burnout and one other causes of burnout is that they don't feel that. They're supported by the administration

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And this bill attempts to address a small part of that.

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When a teacher refers a student for discipline to the principal,

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then the teacher should expect that the principle will do something.

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And at their every least, the teachers should know when the student gets back,

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that student did in fact go to principal and what happened.

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You know, we do this for crime victims, that the voters amended the state constitution to say that victims have a right to be informed in all steps of a court process where they were a victim.

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Well, this simply says that teachers should be told what was the result of the disciplinary referral that they made?

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Was it even dealt with?

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Let's make teachers feel a little bit more wanted and respected and

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we'll lose less of them, and I stand for any questions.

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Thank you.

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Members?

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Thank You Mr. Chairman, Senator Cavanaugh.

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Have you spoken directly with teachers and they come to you to ask for this bill?

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No.

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Teachers have not come direct, I'm sorry, Mr Chair.

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No, however, any teachers who want to speak to me, my door is always open.

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I speak the teachers, but none have seen fit to discuss this Bill with me.

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Madam Chair, while I am a teacher and I know that a lot of the issues that we have when

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you have a child that is being disruptive is that there is a

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deeper something going on.

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So I'm interested in knowing why you haven't proposed a bill

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that teachers and staff and educators would be interested

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in doing such as like hiring more mental health

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and psychologists to be able to help those students get

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to the root of the issue so that the disruption

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in a classroom can just be can be permanently gone rather

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than just removing them for the moment.

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And I have done that over the years. We've increased funding for counselors and safety officers and schools in jail.

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I've been there 20 years, we put a lot of money into those type of things. So I done

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that. But this is a matter of respecting you as a teacher. You should not be left out of the loop.

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You shouldn't know what's happening with your students. Don't you agree?

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Madam Chair.

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Please proceed.

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Yeah, I know that there's usually a route to why a child is acting out and as a teacher,

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it's my job to have that communication with them and be able to talk to them about it.

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And I, in the past, have not had an issue with my principle in that regard.

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And it is interesting to me that you would propose a bill that

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you have now once spoken to teachers about or nor did they ask you to present this bill.

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So, without a matter.

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referral. Do you think they should be told that? Would you like to be

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told? And I'm sure I am not answering questions right now anymore. Thank you.

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That's I think it is much thank you for answering itself. Any more questions? No

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we can't move on to the speakers. All right thank You Madam Chair. We're with

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again with we'll have two agains we have a solo blog with Arizona Education

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You'll have two minutes.

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Two minutes, okay.

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Celebrant with the Arizona Education Association, so we are here to express the concerns with Senate Bill 107.4.

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It's a solution looking for a problem.

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So there's the quote off and attributed by Einstein.

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The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

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I say this because this will reflect that pattern.

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Variations of this proposal have been introduced before and yet it is the Amazon Department of Education who continues to introduce the bill.

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and has yet to actually speak with the Arizona Education Association.

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You know, there's claims that they want to help educators and we do appreciate the attempt of trying to

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help and support educators. But again, this ongoing exclusion highlights a

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deeper disconnect, particularly in how we address the court issues related to discipline in our schools.

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Let me be clear, removing a student from a classroom

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Already happens and this is not the right solution. Educators already know when removal is necessary.

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The real issue is what happens next. How that student receives a behavioral emotion on academic support they need to successfully return to learning.

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Senate Bill 1074 does not address that.

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Instead it prioritizes a procedural punitive approach that ignores root causes and

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fills both students and educators.

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And with all kindness and respect to Mr. Kavanaugh, he noted that when we're in a criminal defense that we should know,

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and that was very kind of inappropriate because students are not criminals.

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Sometimes, as we know classrooms are under extreme strain.

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There is, this is the 10th year of teacher shortage, and when I see teacher

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shortage I'm talking about the qualified educators who went to school who learn

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how to do management, classroom management all the things. Schools, you

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know, it should be implementing discipline, positive things, I am just

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going to end with this.

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A lot of times when a student leaves the classroom and goes to admin,

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oftentimes the educator may not know what is happening in a child's life because of FERPA.

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And educators and administrators cannot violate FerPA, and for those reasons we stand opposed to Senate Bill 1074 and I stand for questions.

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Thank you. Any questions, members?

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No, thank you, you said.

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Thank You.

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Okay, we'll go with Jay Kupresse.

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And you will have two minutes.

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Madam Chairman and members of the committee, my name is Jake Rosie here today on behalf of

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the Arizona Charter Schools Association with a little bit different opposition to this bill.

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We may even concede that this may be best practices and for how to manage that classroom.

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However, it is our position that these kind of classroom management.

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discipline and administrative questions should be left to the individual charter school into the

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individual school. We are concerned by the number of mandates that we that

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we are seeing more and more commonplace to address what are likely limited issues.

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We don't fault the notion of trying to apply best practices,

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but we don t feel that statute is the appropriate place to

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micromanage these key functions of schools.

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I'm happy to answer any question.

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Members, any questions?

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Seeing none, thank you, Mr. Caprosi.

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Thank you.

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Next speaker.

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We're going to go with the Camilla.

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Strong.

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So Camilla, sorry.

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Thank you.

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Welcome to two minutes as well.

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Madam Chair, members of the Education Committee, my name is Camola Strong, and I'm here on behalf of Superintendent Horne.

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I'd like to thank Senator Cavinaise. He correctly stated this is a common sense bill that addresses one of

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the most common

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uh significant issues that we see when it comes to retention and recruitment.

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Each year over the past three years under Superintendent Horn's leadership, ADE has conducted teacher

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retention in recruitment studies. The data can be found on our website asa.gov in the most recent

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Over 2,500 teachers responded.

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68.4 listed student behavior and discipline problems as an issue.

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These are teachers that have left the classroom.

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59% of respondents listed a lack of support of administration regarding student behavior

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and discipline as an issue. And 54, 56%

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of the respondents were dissatisfied with administration.

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respondents felt unsafe in the classroom.

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On September 3rd of 2024, ADE warned of the crisis in attracting and retaining classroom

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teachers, citing administrative support, discipline and pay as the top three issues.

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Based on that survey, and that was nearly 1,000 teachers that responded, who had left

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the classroom in 2023.

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is common sense, it encourages communication

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between administrators and the teacher in the classroom.

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And we ask for your support in this bill.

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Happy to answer any questions.

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Thank you.

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Thank, you, any members, Any questions?

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Okay members I have to remember I motion for it with no objection to recess for five minutes

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Okay, roll call vote has been called

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Representative abatia

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Members we're gonna vote because I needed recess four five minute. So we are voting on the motion to recess for 5 minutes

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And if you can hold your, if

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you could address the chair when

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you're doing it.

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Representative LaVatia.

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Madam chair, it's to recess.

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Correct.

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Correct, Nate.

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Representative Piusucci.

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Representative Fink.

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Representative Garcia.

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Representative Gutierrez.

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Representative Hernandez.

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Representative Marshall.

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Representative Olson.

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Aye.

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Representative Rivera.

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Representative Simichek.

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No.

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Vice Chairwoman Pena.

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Ayes.

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Chairman Gress.

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Six ayes and four noes.

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Thank you members with six aisles and

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four nos we're gonna recess for five minutes.

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the Education Committee, thank you.

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Thank you, everyone.

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The Education committee at this moment, we're going to adjourn.

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For this afternoon, and we will get with the chairman to continue on the bills, so thank you

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The education committee is adjourned