[1:19] A
[1:20] >> Chair Dela Cruz: I think
[1:22] we have someone from the
[1:22] governor's office.
[1:23] You can unmute.
[1:24] Good afternoon.
[1:25] >> thank you, would you like
[1:26] me to get started?
[1:27] >> Chair Dela Cruz: yes,
[1:28] please.
[1:31] Good afternoon.
[1:32] >> thanks.
[1:34] Do you want to turn off the
[1:35] music.
[1:36] I could sing it, I guess.
[1:39] >> Chair Dela Cruz: I'm not
[1:41] sure whose that is.
[1:46] Can everybody mute?
[2:05] Except for chief of staff.
[2:10] >> Chair Dela Cruz: I think
[2:11] there's a tv echoing.
[2:20] >> do you have a tv on, linda?
[2:23] >> oh, you know what?
[2:25] That might be me.
[2:27] [Laughter]
[2:29] >> Chair Dela Cruz: thank you
[2:30] for joining us.
[2:31] >> I will get started.
[2:34] >> Chair Dela Cruz: okay.
[2:36] >> chair dela cruz, vice
[2:38] chair agaran and members of
[2:39] the committee.
[2:48] My name is linda takayama.
[2:50] I'm here on behalf of
[2:54] governor ike.
[2:55] Providing executive
[2:56] direction, policy
[2:57] development, program
[2:58] coordination and planning and
[2:59] budgeting.
[3:01] the governor is the chief
[3:04] executive officer of the
[3:05] state of hawaii's executive
[3:09] branch and is the head of
[3:12] state, representing hawaii in
[3:14] national and international
[3:14] afars.
[3:15] -affairs.
[3:18] In addition to the oahu
[3:21] office there are four island
[3:22] offices to serve constituents
[3:24] across the state.
[3:25] The governor's senior staff
[3:29] includes myself as chief of
[3:32] staff, -- of operations and
[3:35] directors of communication,
[3:36] executive administrative
[3:37] services, inter-governmental
[3:40] relations and policy and a
[3:41] protocol officer.
[3:44] One of the functions of the
[3:47] governor's office includes
[3:48] developing and maintaining
[3:49] inter-governmental
[3:49] relationships.
[3:52] As such, the office includes
[3:55] developing and maintaining
[3:58] those relationships.
[3:59] We are requesting $13,000 in
[4:02] each of the next two fiscal
[4:06] years to support efforts to
[4:07] develop and maintain
[4:08] inter-governmental programs
[4:10] and relationships that
[4:14] advance the various interests
[4:15] of the state.
[4:19] In addition, the 157th
[4:20] anniversary of washington
[4:22] place will be occurring in
[4:23] 2021.
[4:25] Funding to support this has
[4:29] been requested for fiscal
[4:29] year 2022.
[4:31] We appreciate the
[4:32] consideration you have, and
[4:34] will be available to answer
[4:37] your questions.
[4:41] Thank you for your continued
[4:42] support of the governor's
[4:43] budget.
[4:44] in addition to our testimony
[4:47] there were some questions
[4:49] submitted by the committee.
[4:51] We are prepared to answer
[4:52] those questions if you would
[4:53] like me to do that now.
[4:55] >> Chair Dela Cruz: yes,
[4:56] please, go ahead.
[4:57] >> okay.
[5:00] It was noted that the
[5:02] governor's office identified
[5:02] seven vacancies.
[5:05] Two of which were expected to
[5:06] be filled by the end of the
[5:07] year.
[5:11] And the question on a was had
[5:13] those two positions been
[5:13] filled.
[5:14] The answer is yes, they have.
[5:17] For the five positions that
[5:19] remain vacant, are they
[5:23] included in the 550 de-funded
[5:24] positions the governor is
[5:25] proposing to eliminate.
[5:27] The answer is no they aren't
[5:29] included in the 550 because
[5:30] the positions are funded and
[5:33] we are intending to fill them.
[5:36] Second question, in addition
[5:38] to cabinet, will senior staff
[5:40] in the governor's office be
[5:42] subject to proposed salary
[5:42] cuts.
[5:44] The answer is that the
[5:45] governor's office, including
[5:47] the governor himself and all
[5:49] of the cabinet members will
[5:52] follow the same cuts and
[5:54] furloughs that are imposed on
[5:57] any of the executive branch
[5:57] employees.
[6:02] So we will all be in the same
[6:02] boat together.
[6:03] Third question, somewhat
[6:04] related.
[6:06] Will the governor's proposed
[6:07] furloughs also affect staff
[6:09] and functions within the
[6:10] governor's office.
[6:12] And the answer to that is
[6:15] yes, of course, we will.
[6:17] Please provide details on the
[6:19] functions and roles of the
[6:21] constituents service office
[6:22] and protocol on community
[6:24] affairs office under the
[6:27] chief operating officer.
[6:29] The constituent services
[6:32] office is meant to respond to
[6:33] constituent concerns in a
[6:36] timely and accurate manner to
[6:38] ensure that the governor, the
[6:40] office and various state
[6:41] departments are responsive to
[6:44] the needs and concerns of the
[6:46] general public as well as
[6:49] broad range of private and
[6:52] public sector organizations.
[6:54] It interacts and develops
[6:55] relationships with
[6:58] constituents and community
[6:59] leaders and represents and/or
[7:01] staffs the governor at
[7:03] meetings or events in the
[7:04] community.
[7:06] Primarily, this is the role
[7:10] of the offices.
[7:12] Maintains and manages the
[7:13] governor's neighbor island
[7:16] offices state-wide and
[7:18] facilitates from state
[7:18] department to constituent
[7:20] concerns.
[7:28] This office receives about
[7:30] 600-1,000 emails and phone
[7:32] calls to the governor's
[7:33] ofoffice each week.
[7:34] We keep track and the number
[7:35] hasn't really gone down very
[7:36] much in all the time I've
[7:38] been here.
[7:42] The other is the protocol and
[7:43] community affairs office.
[7:45] The overall objective of this
[7:48] office is to manage and
[7:50] coordinate the coordination,
[7:51] preparation, execution and
[7:53] staffing activities to ensure
[7:55] events involving the governor
[7:57] or first lady are supported
[8:00] and executed.
[8:02] If the rec coordinates
[8:09] staffing, coordinating,
[8:11] public events and appearances.
[8:13] Talking points for all events.
[8:14] Provides on site support at
[8:16] the events.
[8:19] Understands and provides
[8:21] guidance including diplomatic
[8:22] etiquette, customs and
[8:28] background for v.
[8:30] Ip's at events.
[8:31] Protocols with regard to
[8:35] exchanging of gifts and other
[8:37] items for dignitaries.
[8:40] The unit is also responsible
[8:43] for overseeing and managing
[8:46] the commemorative messages by
[8:47] the governor's office.
[8:48] I think that was the extent
[8:50] of the questions directed to
[8:50] us.
[8:54] I'm happy to answer any
[8:55] questions you May have.
[8:56] >> Chair Dela Cruz: members,
[9:00] any other questions?
[9:05] Do you see anybody?
[9:07] Senator moriwaki.
[9:08] >> hi, linda.
[9:09] Happy new year.
[9:11] >> happy new year to you.
[9:14] >> the senate met with the
[9:15] governor.
[9:16] You mentioned the strike
[9:18] force meeting with government
[9:19] efficiency.
[9:21] I see that's effectiveness,
[9:23] one of the things the
[9:25] governor should be overseeing.
[9:26] I am wondering whatever or
[9:28] have you followed up with
[9:30] that, is there a strike force
[9:34] that is overseeing working
[9:35] with D.N.F. Or dags with
[9:38] either agencies.
[9:42] >> it ended up not being a
[9:43] formally-organized group.
[9:46] We did it kind of informally,
[9:48] given all of the things that
[9:49] have been occurring and
[9:52] coming at us at a pretty
[9:54] rapid pace with regard
[9:57] particularly to the pandemic
[9:58] and the issues related to
[9:59] safe travels.
[10:03] So we did it kind of more an
[10:06] informal basis.
[10:08] The court room being
[10:11] basically the budget folks,
[10:13] which included myself, the
[10:16] governor, budget and finance
[10:17] folks.
[10:20] Dfr and others as we went
[10:23] through the review process of
[10:25] the departments separately.
[10:26] So we ended up, in the
[10:29] interest of time, not being
[10:34] able to do a formal kind of a
[10:34] review.
[10:36] But you will see evidence of
[10:38] that, I think, in the budget
[10:40] that's been prepared for the
[10:41] session.
[10:44] >> so has there been any
[10:48] follow-up in terms of looking
[10:51] at government efficiency and
[10:54] effectiveness, the support
[10:56] agencies like H.R.D., B.N.F.
[10:58] And dags as they support all
[10:59] the line departments so they
[11:02] can serve the public faster
[11:03] and better in
[11:05] >>
[11:06] >> like I mentioned before,
[11:10] we only did it in the course
[11:12] of the programmatic reviews.
[11:14] I think when things settled
[11:15] down a little bit more, it
[11:17] might be possible for us to
[11:19] get enough breathing room to
[11:24] actually do a good job of
[11:26] going through all those
[11:26] things.
[11:28] In the course of the last, I
[11:32] guess, six months or so, we
[11:34] just, we barely had enough
[11:36] time to address the issues
[11:38] that were flying at us from
[11:41] the pandemic side.
[11:43] And really did not have an
[11:44] opportunity to do it as well
[11:46] as we could have.
[11:48] >> but you know, during the
[11:51] pandemic, it sort of was an
[11:52] opportunity to also pause and
[11:54] see what we are not doing so
[11:54] well.
[11:57] We heard a lot from the covid
[11:59] committee, from the public,
[12:02] that hopefully your
[12:04] departments had heard a lot
[12:08] and maybe they are coming up
[12:09] with procedures, processes
[12:12] where it could be fast
[12:14] tracking federal funding.
[12:15] Ways in which they serve the
[12:16] public better.
[12:18] How they make decisions.
[12:20] Has any of that come up to
[12:22] you folks to look at how you
[12:25] can be more efficient in the
[12:27] way the agencies support the
[12:28] people who are really on the
[12:31] line.
[12:35] >> yeah, I suppose hindsight
[12:38] is a lot easier to deal with
[12:40] as opposed to when we are
[12:45] dealing with an issue that
[12:46] unprecedented in the whole
[12:47] world, essentially.
[12:48] We were making decisions on
[12:51] the fly, as best we could.
[12:53] It was very challenging at
[12:55] times.
[12:57] Because, as I said, decisions
[13:01] were being made on the fly.
[13:02] And unfortunately, there were
[13:06] a lot of folks out there in
[13:07] community and deservedly so.
[13:10] Everybody wanted to be at the
[13:10] table.
[13:11] Everybody wanted to know
[13:12] first.
[13:14] And it wasn't always possible
[13:17] to give them that opportunity.
[13:20] So we learned a lot of
[13:22] lessons as a result of that.
[13:24] And there were things maybe
[13:26] in retrospect we could have
[13:27] done better.
[13:28] particularly on the
[13:32] communication side.
[13:33] But ultimately, I think, you
[13:36] have to look at the results.
[13:44] It wasn't always pretty.
[13:46] But if you look at where we
[13:50] were in the last week, hawaii
[13:51] had the lowest infection rate
[13:54] of the country.
[13:56] Hawaii has the second lowest
[13:58] infection rate in the country.
[14:00] Only vermont has a lower
[14:01] infection rate.
[14:04] And for the last week, hawaii
[14:06] had the lowest death rate in
[14:07] the country.
[14:09] And for the entire pandemic
[14:11] period, we had the lowest
[14:16] death rate in the country, as
[14:16] a whole.
[14:18] Yeah, it wasn't always pretty
[14:20] and we regret that.
[14:21] We are trying our best to try
[14:24] to fix some of those things
[14:25] now that things have settled
[14:28] down a little bit.
[14:34] But I think the end result
[14:40] was that what decisions were
[14:42] made kept us safe.
[14:43] There are things people could
[14:44] grumble about.
[14:45] There are folks who would
[14:48] like to open the doors and
[14:50] let all the travelers come in.
[14:51] But there's a price to be
[14:55] paid for that.
[14:57] For very good reasons, our
[15:02] state and the public health
[15:05] officials made decisions that
[15:08] kept us from going that route.
[15:10] And I think the end result
[15:11] was we are safe.
[15:14] >> I think in terms of the
[15:16] covid and attacking the
[15:17] covid, is one thing.
[15:19] My question was, in terms of
[15:21] of your processes and
[15:23] procedures how you operate so
[15:25] that government can be more
[15:27] nimble, can be more
[15:28] responsive, more quickly
[15:30] respond to the needs of the
[15:32] public, whether it was
[15:34] unemployment or housing
[15:39] relief or as well as health
[15:41] and health information.
[15:47] What have you learned so we
[15:49] can take that forward a new
[15:50] way of operating for the
[15:52] government so we can be a
[15:53] better government operating
[15:54] for the people that expect
[15:55] that of us.
[15:57] If you have some of that, I
[15:58] think that's the kind of
[15:59] stuff we should be building
[16:01] on.
[16:04] Either one of the lowest in
[16:07] terms of covid and covid
[16:08] positivity and death.
[16:10] And that's a good thing.
[16:12] But we really need to learn
[16:14] how we provide those services
[16:17] that people are really crying
[16:19] for in a better way, a faster
[16:29] way, whether affordable
[16:29] housing, homeless, housing
[16:29] relief, all of that should be
[16:29] really looked at.
[16:30] And I hope the governor's
[16:30] office is really pushing the
[16:31] departments, encouraging the
[16:34] departments to think little
[16:40] bit more outside their
[16:42] restricted silos how we can
[16:42] better serve the public.
[16:44] >> absolutely.
[16:47] And I think to a large extent
[16:49] we will, we hope, we will be
[16:51] able to work with the
[16:52] legislature on making some of
[16:54] those changes.
[16:56] You will see that some of the
[16:57] legislation we will be
[16:59] sending to you this year.
[17:02] And we can't change the world
[17:04] overnight but we have
[17:05] identified some things that
[17:06] could work a little bit
[17:09] better.
[17:14] we have chosen some areas
[17:15] that don't cost a whole lot
[17:17] of money to do it.
[17:18] Like I said, you will see
[17:19] some of that in the
[17:22] legislation we will be
[17:22] sending to you.
[17:24] There are some things that
[17:32] are urgently needed.
[17:34] One of the things we hope you
[17:35] will consider early and
[17:39] quickly is a change in the
[17:46] way the rates are formulated
[17:47] for unemployment insurance.
[17:50] That's one of my biggest
[17:53] concerns right now because we
[17:56] had to take out a loan of
[17:58] more than a few dollars.
[18:01] And probably more to come to
[18:03] pay the unemployment benefits.
[18:04] That loan gets paid back by a
[18:08] tax on business.
[18:16] At the rate we will have to
[18:18] reimburse it, this is state
[18:20] and federal law, the
[18:21] reimbursement comes from a
[18:23] tax on business.
[18:27] At a billion dollars we will
[18:32] go from rating level c, to
[18:32] highest rating h.
[18:34] That essentially will be a
[18:35] tripling of the taxes on
[18:37] business.
[18:39] At a time when business has
[18:41] been taking some really big
[18:42] hits all along.
[18:44] Some of them are just on the
[18:46] edge, barely able to survive.
[18:48] We don't want to have to hit
[18:50] them with yet another
[18:51] gigantic tax burden.
[18:53] So one of the most important
[18:54] pieces of legislation that
[18:56] will come before you this
[19:01] year is the request to change
[19:03] the rate of taxation, the way
[19:06] the formula is produced and
[19:09] asking for a staggering of
[19:10] how that formula, that rate
[19:13] is applied.
[19:17] so that it is less of a
[19:17] burden.
[19:19] It will still be a burden,
[19:20] any tax is.
[19:22] But it won't come all at once.
[19:24] There are tweaks like that
[19:26] that need to be made.
[19:29] As I said, there's a bunch of
[19:31] others that we have
[19:35] identified and will be
[19:36] sending down to you over the
[19:38] course of the next two years.
[19:40] We aren't going to send it
[19:41] all down at once.
[19:46] Some of it we are still
[19:52] trying to figure out the best
[19:53] way of handling.
[19:55] We look forward to working
[19:58] with you how to handle some
[19:58] of that stuff.
[19:59] >> looking forward as well as
[20:01] procedural changes you can do
[20:03] administratively as well.
[20:04] Not everything is legislative.
[20:06] But we would like to get
[20:12] reports what you are doing
[20:13] administratively as well.
[20:13] >> thanks.
[20:13] P
[20:14] >> Chair Dela Cruz: members,
[20:16] any questions for the
[20:17] governor's office.
[20:17] Okay, thank you.
[20:23] >> thank you.
[20:25] >> Chair Dela Cruz: next on
[20:27] the agenda we have office of
[20:30] the lieutenant governor.
[20:38] Good afternoon.
[20:39] >> chair, good to see you.
[20:41] >> Chair Dela Cruz: good to
[20:42] see you.
[20:45] >> I will just make a couple
[20:45] general comments.
[20:47] Is that what you would prefer?
[20:48] Good to see everybody.
[20:50] I think everyone is pretty
[20:51] aware that obviously the year
[20:53] has been very tough.
[20:58] We have been living within
[20:58] our means, obviously.
[20:59] we did not fill some
[21:02] positions that we have.
[21:05] And over the last 2-4 years
[21:06] there's been a steep
[21:09] reduction in resources for
[21:10] the lieutenant governor's
[21:12] office but we make due.
[21:14] We have seen about a 30%
[21:14] decrease.
[21:16] I will race through these
[21:17] questions that we received
[21:20] because I know you have had a
[21:20] long day.
[21:21] Happy to help in any way.
[21:25] A question about the proposed
[21:26] 10, 15, 20% reduction
[21:28] scenarios in the budget.
[21:30] We gave those scenarios over
[21:33] to the team.
[21:35] Difficult because we are
[21:39] small, we are exempted for
[21:41] being a tiny department.
[21:42] Under $4 million he didn't
[21:44] want those applied.
[21:46] But we faced those cuts down
[21:47] and didn't fill a couple
[21:49] positions we would have liked
[21:51] to have in capacity for us.
[21:53] The next question was given
[21:56] the fact that our staff has
[21:59] not been fully staffed, our
[22:00] department how we have been
[22:02] able to meet our demands.
[22:03] Basically we have been
[22:05] working harder in spreading
[22:05] out the work.
[22:06] But the decrease in staff
[22:09] with the loss of funding for
[22:10] the senior advisor position
[22:12] has been a challenge.
[22:16] Basically we do more with
[22:16] less.
[22:19] We have taken on a lot of
[22:20] large roles from covid just
[22:21] from circumstance.
[22:22] Does our office receive
[22:29] funding for any of our aux
[22:32] -- auxiliary roles.
[22:35] We don't have any we make due.
[22:37] Any status changes.
[22:38] there's been extensive talk
[22:41] about the safe travels
[22:43] program for sure.
[22:49] I think has been pretty well
[22:50] documented to succeed, to get
[22:53] our state open and restore
[22:55] some economic activity as we
[22:57] continue to wrestle with
[22:57] covid.
[23:00] We have had some successes
[23:05] with the smaller programs
[23:06] like kahalei.
[23:08] We haven't asked for any
[23:10] resources or we haven't
[23:10] received any resources.
[23:12] We asked.
[23:14] But times were tough.
[23:16] For
[23:17] for appropriations.
[23:20] The last question how much
[23:22] strain do these assigned
[23:26] above function of the L.G.
[23:27] And staff have?
[23:28] Well, everyone is just doing
[23:30] their best.
[23:31] Do we feel strained?
[23:33] We kind of enjoy the work.
[23:35] It's no strain at all.
[23:36] Would we like more resources
[23:41] of course but we are in the
[23:42] throws of a deep, deep
[23:43] recession.
[23:46] If we had our way we would
[23:49] ask for additional positions
[23:51] or restoration of positions.
[23:54] We know that's not feasible.
[23:55] We would like resources for
[23:57] projects.
[23:59] There are minor things we
[24:01] haven't had resources for
[24:02] computer systems and
[24:02] carpeting and things like
[24:05] that to make the office
[24:07] appear, you know,
[24:08] quintessentially professional.
[24:10] But again, we are a working
[24:14] office and it's been a
[24:16] pleasure to do that.
[24:17] All things being equal we
[24:19] accept what we got.
[24:21] the last thing we are
[24:23] providing a ton of support
[24:25] for covid, the response and
[24:26] so on.
[24:27] If cares resources become
[24:28] available and you need to
[24:30] place them somewhere we could
[24:32] augment our staff and
[24:33] continue.
[24:34] We kick butt pretty well in
[24:37] our office and we can magnify
[24:39] the effects of what we do
[24:41] pretty much going from 4:00
[24:42] A.M. Until late, library
[24:45] everybody.
[24:48] But we magnify a lot of that
[24:50] because of the influence on
[24:51] emergency response and other
[24:53] pieces with the healthcare
[24:54] system is good.
[24:55] It's very effective.
[24:58] But we end up doing it just
[24:59] with me and my chief of staff
[25:00] and our small team.
[25:02] We just make it happen.
[25:03] So I thought I would just
[25:05] stop there and answer any
[25:05] questions.
[25:08] >> so you can't get cares act
[25:09] moneys to supplement your
[25:11] staffing at least to get
[25:12] through the pandemic and what
[25:13] you are doing with the
[25:13] network?
[25:15] >> we could.
[25:17] The very nature of being L.G.
[25:19] Is not ask outside of
[25:21] whatever is the pleasure of
[25:24] the governor and senate, and
[25:25] the house.
[25:26] If you decided though, we do
[25:28] have some space, right.
[25:30] We can do a lot more.
[25:32] Of course the pandemic
[25:34] created this new role.
[25:35] It didn't exist beforehand.
[25:44] So it's kind of a one-off.
[25:47] But if anyone need today
[25:49] place meaningful work
[25:50] alongside us, we will embrace
[25:51] it.
[25:53] >> Chair Dela Cruz: any
[25:54] questions from zoom?
[25:56] Go ahead.
[25:57] >> for a vaccine.
[26:02] A lot of people are asking
[26:06] how much more we will be
[26:06] needing.
[26:08] A lot of our seniors are
[26:10] getting sick and passing
[26:12] away, I'm hearing.
[26:14] What more can we do as a
[26:14] state?
[26:26] >> brilliant question.
[26:27] For the vaccine, we will be
[26:27] having a press conference
[26:27] tomorrow outlining a ton of
[26:27] this but I can tell you, the
[26:28] more resources to implement
[26:30] that program the faster we
[26:30] will get the vaccines out the
[26:33] door.
[26:35] We have 91,000 vaccines.
[26:37] We will be in partnership
[26:38] with the healthcare
[26:39] association and the hospitals
[26:40] to push out a lot of this
[26:41] vaccine.
[26:44] And some of the legislative
[26:45] leadership is helping us to
[26:48] use some big facilities here.
[26:53] We are already in one deeply,
[26:54] healthcare community and
[26:57] nursing homes are getting
[26:57] vaccinated right now.
[26:59] The next groups of people are
[27:00] critical infrastructure and
[27:03] 75 plus.
[27:04] So that's also happening now
[27:06] but it's going to be very
[27:10] vibrant as we can open up
[27:10] these additional pods.
[27:12] The more spaces we can offer,
[27:14] the more quickly we will get
[27:15] everybody vaccinated.
[27:18] If we have as many places as
[27:21] we can fund, then instead of
[27:23] ever having a 2-3 week delay
[27:25] we can probably the vaccines
[27:26] in people's arms the same
[27:27] week they arrive.
[27:30] We will get paid for pretty
[27:34] much by the partners at
[27:38] H.S.M.S. And vaccines.
[27:40] The vaccine is free otherwise.
[27:41] They aren't asking us for
[27:43] money, per se.
[27:44] Though you can imagine.
[27:46] If we were able to use the
[27:47] convention center.
[27:49] I'm hearing that May not be
[27:51] something they are willing to
[27:52] waive the cost on, even
[27:54] though we own it, there May
[27:55] be benefits.
[27:58] And dollars from the recent
[28:00] cares act moneys will be
[28:02] helpful to administer the
[28:02] vaccines.
[28:04] We should be able to do, all
[28:06] the high-risk individuals in
[28:09] the next 3-4 months.
[28:11] And then for communities that
[28:13] are less seriously impacted
[28:15] just healthy young people it
[28:16] will drift into the summer
[28:18] but all that is good for us.
[28:22] >> what is your projection
[28:24] for the vaccine getting out
[28:25] to the communities.
[28:27] 2-4 months?
[28:29] >> I think, I would say, by
[28:31] the end of February, we
[28:33] should get through all the
[28:35] highest-risk individuals.
[28:37] Particularly the 1-a category.
[28:40] The 1-b category, critical
[28:41] infrastructure, honestly
[28:43] keeping ports open, keeping
[28:44] government going, keeping
[28:46] food supply going.
[28:49] Keeping energy together and
[28:49] 75 plus.
[28:52] It's about 50,000 critical
[28:53] infrastructure workers and
[28:56] 109,000 who are 75 and older.
[29:00] 150,000 or so.
[29:02] 159,000 and then 1-c.
[29:05] We will get 75,000 people per
[29:07] month at our best clip.
[29:08] about two months.
[29:10] And then the next or last leg
[29:13] of people who are very
[29:14] vulnerable are 65 plus,
[29:16] people with chronic diseases
[29:17] and rest of infrastructure
[29:18] individuals who are not as
[29:20] high risk.
[29:22] I should mention teachers are
[29:24] in 1-b with critical
[29:24] infrastructure.
[29:25] That will take another couple
[29:25] months.
[29:27] Then we will be in the clear
[29:30] as far as risk goes but in
[29:33] the summertime, people like,
[29:35] you know, 42-year-old healthy
[29:37] person that's not in an
[29:38] infrastructure role, that's
[29:41] when they will be offered the
[29:41] vaccine.
[29:43] >> so are there different
[29:45] places of distribution.
[29:46] Or any doctor, you go to your
[29:48] doctor and get it?
[29:49] How is that?
[29:51] >> great question.
[29:59] Mostly for these first
[30:03] categories, 1-a, 1-b, 1-c.
[30:07] It will be hospitals.
[30:09] And medical centers.
[30:10] Then pharmacies will most
[30:13] likely do it and maybe some
[30:15] physician or nurse
[30:16] practitioner offices, it will
[30:17] be so easy by then.
[30:21] The first set of vaccines, I
[30:23] don't want to take up too
[30:27] much time but they are harder
[30:28] because they are
[30:31] temperature-sensive but the
[30:34] johnson and johnson and
[30:38] astrazeneca aren't as low.
[30:40] >> Chair Dela Cruz: any other
[30:41] questions?
[30:41] If not.
[30:42] Thank you.
[30:44] Happy new year.
[31:01] >> thank you, happy new year.