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>> 2026 to 11:00AM or excuse me

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11:00:02AM, and effect called

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the Minnesota Senate Committee

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and rules and Ministration to

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order.

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Thank you members for joining.

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We have 3 items on our agenda

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today dealing primarily with

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our employees and compensation.

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We're going to have secretary

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batter and and must and will

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join us.

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And the materials that we're

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discussing today were sent to

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everybody last Thursday and

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again again this morning.

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So hopefully you all have

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before you what it is that you

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need.

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We're going to begin and with

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the committee resolution and

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compensation and now Collin

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>> Good morning. Madam Chair

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members, you have a document

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available to the COVID CR 0, 1,

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9, Dash 20.

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That's a Senate Committee

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resolution of proposed

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resolution that provides cut 8%

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in a place at 10,

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much the same form as

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resolution approved last year.

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I can walk you through what in

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the document. The most

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important component of

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documents course annual salary

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increases for Senate employees.

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The document provides a 2%

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across the board increase for

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Senate employees and America

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full 1.5% of salaries.

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A word or 2 about the process

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used to arrive. Those numbers

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management advisory committee

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BN meeting earlier this year

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and that's about 4 times to

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consider how to set those

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amounts.

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The pressure is on the Senate

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budget at the outset of the

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increases were greater than had

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been forecasted for calendar

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and security costs have

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increased significantly.

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the management advisory

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committee had to deal with

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trying to write it would be a

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competitive and also

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sustainable number for those

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increases

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before you get too much further

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of say this every time. But

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just to be sure of the

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management advisory committee

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is composed of myself, the

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director of human resources,

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director skirt and the Chiefs

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of staff of each caucus.

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Generally we operate a matter

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of the try-line consensus.

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My proposal is for the rules

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committee.

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So walking you through the

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document itself. Paragraphs

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were beginning on line. 1.8

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item provides the salary

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increases that I've just

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mentioned and provides the

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terms for the Indian minister.

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preparation of America plan by

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the director of human resources

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to provide guidance on how the

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merit increases are

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administered. That document,

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although does not need further

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proof of what it was committed

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is available to you in draft

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form. The documents that have

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walking surely quickly to the

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document online. 1.2 1, her

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ready for tonight's treatment

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for employees who are at that.

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what has been done in past

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years. Harris fighting online.

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1.2 3 alliance allows is for

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technical adjustments to wages

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to keep them where they need to

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be in relation to each other

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and care at the VA and page

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and provides the authority for

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development of the mayor of

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plan that I referred to a

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being an ally to point age

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the authorizations provided for

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sending plays too

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a standard language on it for a

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calm matches. That's

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and play option for either 1150

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in matching or up to 50 hours

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of vacation account it.

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point to 6 provides the

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technology and communication

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station for another fiscal year

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in the same form that has been

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>> Thank you, Secretary Bowden

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members to have questioned

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Senator Limmer.

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>> Yes, I do a secretary

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butter. And

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when we total the cost of

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you know what that rate would

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be compared to

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the 2% that we're offering our

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employees.

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>> Secretary bothered.

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sure I understand the question.

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the expected health insurance

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premium increase that employees

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will be expected to pay their

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share the premium in addition

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to inflation?

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>> No, I was I was kind of

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playing off your words as you

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were explaining health care

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or we'd this year even keeping

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up with inflation

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for our employee benefit?

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>> Sandra Bowden, thank you,

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Madam Chair. And senator,

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what I would say that is, you

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know, at this point, I think

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inflation has been pretty fluid

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number. It seems to be perhaps

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increasing, I think, the last

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month or to pay careful

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attention to that. Much of this

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will depend on the slate of

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time that you included within

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the previous year. I think what

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trying to do our best

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most said employees are doing

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fairly well with the additional

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one have percent available and

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applaud the mayor of plan.

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words, it would look only at

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that 2% number when you're

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almost all us and employees and

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hope that's helpful. It's

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really about the best they can

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do the other.

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have to ask is, is the merit

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increases?

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employee gets a merit

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recognition?

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>> Thank you, Senator Lemur

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center secretary about him.

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there's basically 3 levels what

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America plan theirs, not

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meeting expectations where

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there's still some possible

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amount available performance

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has met expectations that's

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very, really use. That would be

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meeting would get into a

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and I may have misspoken

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anything not meeting. There's a

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range available up to 1.5

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meeting with a 1.5 and

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exceeding anywhere up to 2.5.

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distribution of the plays,

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most employees to see maybe not

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to the full extent of the 2 and

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a half percent. If you are

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doing some very rough for it,

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may take it. You know, I think

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it's reasonable to use the 1.5%

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for what's available to most

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>> Thank you, Senator Lugar,

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Senator Martin.

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>> And Secretary modern to be

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clear that 1.5% is the pool

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that's available. So in other

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words, the DFL Caucus, the

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Republican caucus are

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non-partisan. But average you

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has to average 1.5% of can't go

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above that. Have some are

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getting more equal. The number

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of to get less

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secretary about him.

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>> Madam chair to rage. That is

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in essence, correct. The pool

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provides, you know exactly what

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that is like a total dollar

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amount. And then the mayor of

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plan provides the limitations

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on should have minimum and

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maximum amounts within those

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ratings. So you're correct.

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the pulsar is a limiting

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>> And members there is a memo

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and in our materials stay from

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Darren, half from human

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resources. If you have other

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questions after this meeting,

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he is a good resource for us.

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Are there other questions

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and the committee resolution on

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compensation

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seeing no questions and Senator

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rest moves to Adapt Committee

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resolution 19,

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all those in favor. Please say

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Aye, aye.

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And those opposed say no.

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And that motion is adopted.

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Thank you, members. Next, we'll

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move to that committee adoption

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of the Senate employee Rester

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and before I move to Secretary

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bad and that this is in our

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packets

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and this is a document that is

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sensitive in that it names

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members and salaries.

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So it is not distributed

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publicly, but it is available

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to the public. And if you'd

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like it, please reach out to

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our committee administrator as

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Rachel Carlson, you can find

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her e-mail online

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and because we want to make

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sure that if people want it,

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they can get their hands on it.

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But it is not something we

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readily distribute everybody

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because it contains sensitive

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personal information about

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salaries.

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And I think to turn now to

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Secretary Battered.

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>> Thank you, Madam Chair.

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So you have in the materials

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provided to you. The Senate

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roster dated 6/1/2026.

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is picking up on some of what

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Senator Murphy said. But the

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chair said if this is sensitive

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information, if you have

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questions about, but the

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practice for the rules

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committee has been to away

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referenced individual employees

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possibly may have questions,

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but, you know, a group or class

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of employees and certainly also

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happy to take questions offline

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as well as their individual

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concerns. We made every effort

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to make sure that the

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information is correct. The

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director of human resources and

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his team go out of their way to

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certainly this and give the

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Chiefs of staff the director's

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chair for myself the

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opportunity to review it and

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make sure all the information

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is accurate. It is a snapshot

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in time that has to be

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emphasized. So, you know,

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for example, a number of

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employees, well, very good.

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08:00AM to 10:00AM separation

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from service and then dollars

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an ounce.

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Well, Larry, a

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based on promotional increases

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as possible and play might be

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eligible for promotion increase

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the day after tomorrow. You

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would see that reflected on

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this roster. So keep that in

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mind as you're making

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comparisons and so forth.

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You know, as as we look through

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this document, as you look

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through it,

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the

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the one thing I want to say

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here and in keeping with its

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past salary increase and he's

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had received some feedback that

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has been generally very

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positive in terms of how the

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Senate is doing the city, the

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employment market.

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I think we're in a position now

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where Irene is more competitive

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edge. That's that's certainly

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what I've heard. I welcome any

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and all feedback that

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supervisors, others, any hiring

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managers, you know, any of you

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would have for me regarding

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that competitiveness. We're

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what we're trying to accomplish

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here is, you know that so

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careful line between keeping

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the Senate budget using that

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very sustainable fashion and

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remaining competitive with with

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the work that's been done in

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the previous years to improve

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Senate salary, competitive

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bids.

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That's what I would have to

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tell you about the roster and

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again, as always happy to take

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any questions.

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>> And really made you have a

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question or raise your hands to

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oh, I'm sorry. So no, I do not

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have a question. Thank you,

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Senator Murray.

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>> Thank you. Madam Chair and

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Secretary Modern appreciate

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hearing that you feel they're

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fairly that our wages are

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getting more competitive out of

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curiosity.

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Is there anybody maybe they're

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in part for some of the tracks?

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How many people are losing to

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other positions that we think

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are leaving because of wages

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and sort of thing or is that I

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haven't heard a lot of people I

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left to take a much better

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paying job somewhere else.

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And I know that happens.

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But curious if there's if you

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know, sit down, tick in the

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number of people doing that.

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>> And Marty Sex, a sick

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Secretary Bowden.

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>> Thank you. Madam Chair, out

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of practice your apologists

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tonight, Renee. So summer

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anecdotally, I would say I

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think that's true. Retention

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has improved clay,

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you know, certain for more

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comprehensive look at the debt

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or something more grounded.

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And, you know, let's say the

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experience the past 6 months,

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they can check in with the

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director of human resources and

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just follow up more informally

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with you. I think it's a good

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question and maybe we need to

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be very mindful of that.

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Again, we want to retain the

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advantage that has been

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created.

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>> Thanks, Senator Marty.

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And I know there's been a real

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effort on the part of the

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Senate, too,

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make sure that the salaries are

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competitive.

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So we retain a talent.

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Are there other questions

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and seeing no questions.

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Senator Marty moves

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to approve the Senate employee

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roster dated 6/1/2026.

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seeing no questions. All those

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in favor. Please say Aye.

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Aye, aye.

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And those opposed say no.

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And that motion is adopted.

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Thank you, members

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and last and we'll take up this

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ended Senate in travel

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expenses, improved an memo and

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now turned to Director Stengel.

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>> Thank you, Madam Chair.

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This is the interim travel

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expense and pretty memo.

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This is very similar to what

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you've seen in past years.

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The first section talks about

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Purdue mileage, lodging and

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travel expenses. The next

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section talks about authorize

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reimbursements

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for certain types of business

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related to your position and

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its members. The communication

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reimbursement is the same as

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last year. Constituent service

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mileage is the next section.

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And then finally in in-state

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and out-of-state travel

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guidelines,

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this is all the same that

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you've seen in years past,

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except for the day to been

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updated. And the IRS mileage

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rate has been updated to match

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the current virus mileage rate

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and 72.5 cents per mile.

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And then there were some minor

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formatting changes from the

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memo from last year. But

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otherwise, the memo and its

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contents remain the same.

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>> Thank you, Istanbul,

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Senator Johnson.

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>> Thank you. Madam Chair.

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I just want him to make one

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point on here, too. I know this

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is this is not going to change

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in this year's document, but it

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was brought to my attention

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just

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a half an hour ago or so.

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>> That, you know, underneath

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the authorized reimbursements,

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if that bullet headline that's

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undermined,

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you know, there's a number of

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things that were authorized for

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reimbursement on

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back in 2022, the memo used to

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have a line in there that had a

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part of the reimbursement

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authorization was majority

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leader, assistant majority

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leader, president of the

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Senate, but that also minority

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leader for appropriate duties.

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And

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as we are, you know, having a

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few changes within our

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leadership staff right now are

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we're finding that, you know,

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there's there's more duties

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that I'm kind of been

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responsible for on this stuff.

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And so

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is there an opportunity here to

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to address at otherwise looks

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like everything else kind of us

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go through the majority leader

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and we're not sure

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those expenses are authorized

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to reimbursable

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for the minority leader duties

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to.

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>> The judge. Can you just you

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draw my attention to where in

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the memo to a chill.

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>> So that that's yeah, I'm

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sorry. She clarified so in the

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current mental there's hasn't

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been a change or a thing.

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And this year I think this

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happened probably back in 23 or

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24

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but are littered. It's about

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time.

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But we're just comparing notes

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between the 2022 mammal,

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which we can send it over to

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you. I just received it here a

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few minutes ago.

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And so there's a line that was

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taken out that just highlights

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majority leader, Assistant

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majority leader, president of

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the Senate minority leader for

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their appropriate duties with

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then their caucus structures.

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And so just wondering if that's

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something that we could maybe

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I will time to reflect on a

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going forward here

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just that we know because we

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just don't have clarity on on.

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Are those duties the left come

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down and address or those

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covered or not?

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>> Okay, that you're looking

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for a pretty Senator Johnson

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for those days.

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>> Well, this is the author as

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reimbursements. So it will be

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those expenses that are

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incurred in the duties of

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coming down.

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>> Thanks for raising it,

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Senator Johnson and yes,

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let's talk it through

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to make sure. And I I just like

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to see where I was back there.

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>> I appreciate those already

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do this. I just want to talk

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about this today. It's OK,

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I'm happy to take it up with

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you,

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Senator Front.

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>> Thank you, Madam Chair.

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Thank you. Senator Johnson.

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I'm interested in hearing or as

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well figures minority in the

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way we provide for some very

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important Senator Johnson

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to know when that change was

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made, it was president 2022,

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do we know at what point there

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was up

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removal? That's the right term.

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Thank you, Madam Chair. That

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under Johnson.

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>> To Johnson. Yeah. It and I

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don't know the exact the

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interment that was made.

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It was either in the 23 in term

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were the 24 inter. So I'm not

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sure which one it was, but we

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can get that information over.

590
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>> Thank you, Senator Johnson,

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that. Thank you, Madam Chair.

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Looking forward to that

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discussion.

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>> And Madam Chair, Senator

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Johnson, I just got a text that

596
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said it was the 23

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after the 23 year.

598
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>> Thank you, Senator Johnson,

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thank you. Senator France will

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have that follow-up

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conversation and I'm glad to

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call that out.

603
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On that note,

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as we're talking about changes

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we wear in order to maintain

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the stability of our budget.

607
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In a news that of hiring pause.

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I'm not a freeze

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but a pause and with the

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intention of making sure if we

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have positions to fill that

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there's a process for the Mac

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to do that. And I think it is

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important to acknowledge day

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since departure right at the

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end of session and then

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important role to be filled.

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And so while we have often used

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to freeze and just said no

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hiring

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and we're going to pause, but

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we want to make sure there's a

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process by which the Mac can

624
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take up those questions.

625
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So we have to compliment to

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staff necessary for caucuses

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chair.

628
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>> Senator Reid should

629
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appreciate the recognition and

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accommodation for

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for our group or 2. So

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absolutely in conversations as

633
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things kind of progress here.

634
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Thank you.

635
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>> Are there any questions on

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the interim travel expenses and

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pretty a memo

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and seeing no questions.

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Senator Pappas moves

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to approve the interim travel

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expenses and pretty letter

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dated 6/1/2026. All those in

643
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favor. Please say Aye. Aye.

644
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And the House I know.

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And that motion is adopted

646
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there being no further business

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before the Rules Committee.

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This meeting is adjourned.

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Thank you. Members

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have a good summer