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Good morning everybody. I will

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call this a final meeting of the

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interim judiciaryittee to order.

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Will the secretary please take

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the role

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Senator Krasner

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Senator wynn

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assembly membermber cole

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assembly member gonzalez

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assembly member Marzola

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assembly memberm Miller

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I am here thank you assembly

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member Gonzalez do you have

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anybody else with you who you

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might want to introduce

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I do give me one second

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congratulations

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graduations

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what's your name

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Saraniaer

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ran welcome. thank you that is

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one very cute baby.

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right that was really all we

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needed to do today

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thank you

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thank you so much for sharing

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her with us and again

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congratulations and

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welcomearrania and everybody to

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the final meeting of the interim

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judiciaryittee we do have

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some business today in addition

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to our work session we have a

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couple of presentations a couple

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of people reached out to being

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kind of asked about the thinking

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behind that format and the

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thinking is this that we have a

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lot to cover in one interim for

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this large committee with so

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many different priorities and

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responsibilities and so even

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though we already have a full

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work session document. I wanted

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to make sure that we also took

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the time to explore other

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policies that members here

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might be considering for their

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individual personal bills that

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the two committees might

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consider we have the you know

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the assembly judiciary and

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senate judiciary both get

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committee bills and so the

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earlier that we can get started

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talking about policy I think the

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better it is for us to make good

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policy and so

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we will have a couple of

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presentations today to talk

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through like I said some of

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those policy considerations plus

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we have our work session

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where we will go over some of

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the things that we've already

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started considering for the next

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session and take votes on

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drafting BDRs resolutions

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letters etc. but before we do

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any of that we have some time

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for public comment so I will

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invite anybody forward wishing

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to give public comment in person

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in carson City or Las Vegas. I

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see some folks coming forward in

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Las Vegas so we'll start here I

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sorry I see folks in carson

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cityity as well but I already

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said we start with Vegas so

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we'll start with Las Vegas.

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right good morning members of

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the judiciary committeetee. my

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name is Kevaugano.

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and they want to talk about the

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fight against child sex

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trafficking here in Nevada.

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CScC stands for the commercial

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sexual exploitation of children

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and I recently became aware that

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this issue

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was prioritized at the march

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meeting for this committee

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I have a summary of all the key

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points about child trafficking

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from the five previous meetings

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as well

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which is part of my submission

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today.

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These miners are often between

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the ages of12 to14 and11% of

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those include boys as well. Many

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of them come from chaotic

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households and end up running

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away because it is devastating

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to their mental health to remain

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at home

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on average it takes about two

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nights for child traffickers to

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find these runaways since they

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know exactly where to look and

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what to say to them

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in my submission materials have

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also put together a chart that

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shows resources in Nevada for

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rescuing a child from

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exploitation.

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and how effective their current

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capabilities are

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I have divided the resources

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into three distinct phases for

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accomplishing this objective

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the first phase is detection the

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ability to locate a traffic

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the second phase is the actual

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separation from the trafficker

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challenging phase

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is providing a longterm

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nurturing environment for

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undoing the psychological trauma

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I regret to say that many kids

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don't just become victims of

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their traffickers

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they become dependent on them

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the trafficker is often the

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first person who ever made them

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feel chosen

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protected and provided for

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this means that law enforcement

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and social workers

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represent people who want to

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take them away from their only

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stability that they've ever

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although this isn't always the

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case

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attempting to rescue a child who

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grew up in this way is dangerous

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for all parties involved

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for the kids who really do want

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nothing to do with this way of

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life, I am confident that

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preparing a rescue system and

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the way out for them is possible

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with the right coordination

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and perseverance

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I won't underestimate the

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tremendous potential of security

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officers

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who may also help with this

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cause.

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once the issues with the private

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investigators licensing board

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are fully resolved

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and my supporting materials

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pages1 to5 highlight the key

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points of the CSEc discussions

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today and pages6 to7 is a chart

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evaluating Nevada's current

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capability to fight CScC across

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Once again thanks for your time

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always.

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Good morning tochial and members

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of the joint and astanding

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Committee on thediciary. My name

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is Nickconi and I am here today

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on behalf of the Clark County

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School District and strong

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support of the fifth

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recommendation related to

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electric bicycles and emoility

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devices. we're facing an

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urgent crisis on our roads

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safety working group's final

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report studentent non motorist

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crashes spiked42s to spi 27

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incidents in the 20252026 school

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year. a staggering356% increase

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over the previous year.

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near half of all these

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crashes,49% involved evices.

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Local medical providers at UMC

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and across southern Nevada seen

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up to a400% increase in

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pediatric e-device injuries over

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recent years. Middle and high

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school students aged12 to17

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account for74% of all student

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This BDR provides the common

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sense guardrails our community

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need desperately needs including

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mandatory helmet protections

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closing regulatory enforcement

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gaps when differentiating

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between different types of

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devices and improved data

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collection so we understand when

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students or individuals are

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using an edevice involved in a

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this legislation isn't about

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taking away mobility it is about

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protecting our children's lives.

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I urge you to support this BDr

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members of the committee my name

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is Leemccallier. I'm the

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executive director of the Nevada

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chapter of the American Academy

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of Pediatrics. I'm here today to

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comment on the committee's human

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trafficking recommendations the

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Nevada AapP submitted a letter

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yesterday asking that the final

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recommendations include support

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for Nevada Care, a statewide

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medicallegal response network

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modelled on the Kansas Caretwork

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which is processed over7400

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with a 25 hour median response

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time since 2023.

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Nevadaare addresses three

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priorities workforce retention,

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statewide coordination and fair

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including courtroom testimony,

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full details are in our letter

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to the committee. My next point

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isn't in our letter but given

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today's presentation on

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pregnancy outcome laws it merits

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a call out. The American Academy

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of Pediatrics policylicy on

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adolescents right to

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confidential care makes clear

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that when laws

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around pregnancy and abortion

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grow more punitive, young people

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delay or avoid seeking medical

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care out of fear and that delay

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is itself a health risk. I'd

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encourage this committee to

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weigh that as it considers any

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related statutes

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thank you for your time and for

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the committee's work this

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Good morning chair and members

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of the interim judiciary

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Committee. thank you for the

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opportunity to testify today you

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will hear information about

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violence and reproductive

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access. these are important

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topics. I would ask you to

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consider the following Nevada

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has a law requiring one parent

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notification with judicial

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bypass prior to a minor

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receiving an abortion. The

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Nevadasupreme Court recently

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enjoined this law meaning an

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underage girl can get an

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abortion without her parents

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Concerns of doctors can can

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doctor's convenience outweighed

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parents' rights and safety of

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young girls in this decision.

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Parents are one of the most

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important safeguards against

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abuse, trafficking, exploitation

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and coercion and that is why I

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ask you today to fix Nevada's

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parental notification statute to

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once again include parents in

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their underage daughter's

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abortion decisions. Parents

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should know when their minor

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daughter is facing an abortion

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decision and with the

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appropriate protections that are

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there

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it protects her over her

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suspected abuser. Nevada should

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ensure that no woman or girl can

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be pressured, threatened,

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deceived, trafficked or forced

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into an abortion because

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sometimes the adult who

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desperately does not want a mom

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or dad to know about a girl's

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pregnancy is the very adult who

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caused it. Secret abortions help

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hide their crime and return that

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child to abuse. please consider

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using one of the judiciary BDRs

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to fixnrs442.255

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Good morning members of the

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judiciary Committee and I

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hope you all are looking forward

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to a couple months off before

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February. my name is

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Marcetttencourt. I'm the

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executive director with the

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Nevada coalitiongainst the death

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penalty for the last time this

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interim I want to encourage the

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members of this committee to

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again reconsider ending the

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death penalty in the coming

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legislative session. it is a

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costly public policy that is

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broken beyond repair and it has

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no discernible benefit to the

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people of Nevada.

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Victims continue to step forward

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this year who do not want to

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suffer through decades of media

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and court appearances for a

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sentence that may never occur

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and likely never will. As of

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this year we have gone two

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decades since the last execution

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in Nevada and what do we have to

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show a nearly million dollars

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execution chamber the

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legislature authorized that has

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never been used and nearly

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half a million dollars per death

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sentence sought versus a life

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or life without parole sentence

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that money could be

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better serving our communities

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solving crimes or supporting

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victim services. We also know

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that because of a lack of

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resources a lack of legal

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experts and more you are far

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more likely to receive a death

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sentence in Clark County or

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Washoe County than anywhere

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in the rest of the state and how

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can we compare the victimhood

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in one region versus another

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and we see this disparity

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happening not only in

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regionality but across race and

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economic status of the folks

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who are sentenced to death. The

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closer we examine capital

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punishment the less it makes

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sense.11 of the12 people in

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Nevada who have been executed or

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volunteers people who waived

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their appeals. Is this the

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system that we want one where we

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forego questions about

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innocence wasting millions in

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taxpayer dollars while people

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are struggling for something we

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know hasn't and continues to not

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work. If Lebanon, Sierra Leone

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andvirginia can move past the

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death penal

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ty so can the sagebrush state. I

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invite any of our legislators

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even those who are doubtful

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to open up the the dialogue

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and sit down for conversation.

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We can better serve the people

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of the state without capital

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punishment and focusing on how

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we can prevent priri before it

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happens. thank you so much.

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right thank you all for your

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comments. I don't see anybody

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else coming forward in Las Vegas

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so we'll move to Carson City in

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person for a public comment

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please go ahead

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Good morningcheerchiel members

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of the committee uhtanya Brown T

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O N J A B R O W N advocates for

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the inmates and the innocent

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as you know we had submitted our

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recommendation that consisted of

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a factual innocence posthumous

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petition and to change the law

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of discovery to an open file

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we know we realize that there

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are a lot of good

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recommendations and we would

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hope that one of the members

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would at least you know pick up

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our recommendation

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and move forward with one of

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their BDRs and and so also

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we would also like it known that

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there's a lot of great

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recommendations and our

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priorities for the

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recommendations would be to

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advance SB307 antiins solitary

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confinement

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what the public defenders are

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asking for fam

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fines and fees and my

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colleague is on the phone and I

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think she would be the best

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person to speak on behalf of the

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excited delirium and prone

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restraints excuse me and I'd

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like to touch on what

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Mrenttancourt had said to of

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abolishing the death penalty

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about a week or so we sent each

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of we sent you each of you a

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letter and our reasons why

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one was on behalf of advocates

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for the inmates and one was

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because of a personal from

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me personally abolishing the

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death penalty many years ago I

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always believed that that they

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would never convict an innocent

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person and we know that that is

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not the case and I know because

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my brother was wrongfully

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convicted sppent 21 years in

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prison for a crime he did not

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commit and prior to the

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discovery of all the evidence

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that was found hiding in the

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washoe County DA's file and me

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finding the real perpetrator of

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the crime. I'm still unable

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to exonerate him but I want you

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to know something

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if hypothetically if the the

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suspect had actually murdered

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somebody in which my brother was

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wrongfully convicted of my

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brother would have been executed

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because all of his appeals were

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finished finalized long before

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the last execution of 2006 so I

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really would like for you to

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think about that when

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considering abolishing the death

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penalty because like I said if

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the person that I did find later

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on and I do have a declaration

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from that kind of supp that will

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support my brother's innocence

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if he had committed a murder

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my brother would have been dead

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and the death penalty needs to

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be abolished thank you very much

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have a lovely day.

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Good morning legislatures

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my name is William J Connners.

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W Ill I A Mjojo O H N

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C O N

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N O R S

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we're I'm here for a citizens of

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participation

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participatory justice. my name

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is Will Conbers. I am

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here for two reasons. First, I

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want to put a record that I have

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submitted committed

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comments and a white paper to

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produce some friends of mine I

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have handed it over to the

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secretary for submission a white

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paper along with a cover letter

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requesting legislative gap

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analysis and some combats by the

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authors of the white paper.

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Second, I would also like to

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place into record that I have

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turned in a public comment

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writing regarding the general

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complaints about lawyers and

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attorneys as it relates to civil

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rights.

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Third, I would like to make a

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verbal commit a verbalcom.

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the food ideally state prison is

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not worth eating.

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because of the lack oflass A

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protein and it's filled with

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carbs

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like macaroni bread and cake.

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the area of the prison is in is

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surrounded by farms and gardens

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that could be a sources with

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fresh vegetables and meats and

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could be a better price.

531
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I hope you will least consider

532
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this so my husband and other

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inmates don't have to keep

534
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eating the garbage they're

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eating.

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also

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my husband hasn't been outside

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since he was moved toelie State

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Prison in January.

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to get any fresh air or a little

541
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a little sun on his face and I

542
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really need you guys to listen

543
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to me

544
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he was locked down all last week

545
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in his cell for5 days and don't

546
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understand why they move a whole

547
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bunch of people to Ily

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staterison and then they can't

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control the situation.

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they should have at least

551
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getting out during the day and

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not just on the tier but

553
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outside so they can get fresh

554
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air and I'm really upset about

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this and I'm not only speaking

556
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for my husband but I'm also

557
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speaking for those other inmates

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that don't have a voice.

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I thank you very much for your

560
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well I'm thanking you

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for listening to what I have to

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say and I'll be back of course

563
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because there's a lot of reasons

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that I need to talk about and

565
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I'm really upset about this and

566
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I'm hoping the legislature will

567
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look at this honestly.

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thank you very much

569
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have a nice day.

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I don't see anybody else coming

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forward in person so we'll go to

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the phone for public comment

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to provide public comment please

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press 9 now to take your place

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in the queue.

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Good morning chairirhaibo and

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members of the committee my name

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is E Grant and I speak today as

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the sister of Thomas Purdy who

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died of preventable death. well

581
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in the custody at the wassha

582
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Countyjailhomas was experiencing

583
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a mental health crisis instead

584
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of receiving care he was hard

585
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and tied face down until he

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suffocated. His death was ruled

587
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asphyxiation due to restraint at

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the washer County medical

589
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examiner Laura Knight described

590
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it as excited delirium the term

591
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now rejected

592
00:19:36,743 --> 00:19:36,993
by every major medical

593
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association. The recommendations

594
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before this committee to

595
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prohibit excited delirium as a

596
00:19:43,209 --> 00:19:43,459
medical diagnosis ambient prone

597
00:19:46,743 --> 00:19:46,993
in hogti restraint restraint for

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life saving measures they

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address practices that have

600
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already cost lives in Nevada

601
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including my brothers. Families

602
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like mine have watched this

603
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pattern repeat across Nevada

604
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people res restrained face down

605
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denied medical aid and later

606
00:20:03,109 --> 00:20:03,359
their murders described as exci

607
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ci excited delirium instead of

608
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positional asphyxiation. these

609
00:20:10,976 --> 00:20:11,226
deaths are preventable in the

610
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settlements that follow are a

611
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direct cost to taxpayers I'd

612
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like to mention nicolasarra was

613
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also asphyxiated at the Clark

614
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County detention Center on

615
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March31,2019 that lawsuit cost

616
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the taxpayers $2.35 million he

617
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was not included on the list

618
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that was provided to the

619
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committee. Nevada must join

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states likeor and

621
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Colorado and establishing

622
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uniform statewide protections

623
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against restraint practices that

624
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restrict breathing and adopting

625
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laws that restrict pressure to

626
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the neck, back, chest or abdomen

627
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and mandate prompt re

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positioning medical evaluation

629
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and independent investigations

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of restraintrelated death

631
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this will protect both the

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public and law enforcement

633
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officershomas deserved help, not

634
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a death sentence.

635
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these reforms are necessary to

636
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prevent positional asphyxia

637
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death and to ensure that

638
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behavioral or medical crises

639
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receive inappropriate medical

640
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response rather than a deadly

641
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restraint. a statewide ban

642
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protects both the public and

643
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agencies by establishing clear

644
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uniform standards for safe

645
00:21:19,009 --> 00:21:19,259
restraint medical evaluation and

646
00:21:21,009 --> 00:21:21,259
independent investigations I'd

647
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also urge you to consider

648
00:21:24,509 --> 00:21:24,759
legislation to abolish the death

649
00:21:25,209 --> 00:21:25,459
penalty. Thank you. have a good

650
00:21:25,876 --> 00:21:26,126
day.

651
00:21:50,776 --> 00:21:51,026
good morningerybo and committee

652
00:21:53,043 --> 00:21:53,293
my name is Sue Birch S U E B U R

653
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Tc H and I am the executive

654
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director of the Nevada state

655
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chapter of the national

656
00:22:00,809 --> 00:22:01,059
Organization for Women and I'm

657
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also a member of theconomic

658
00:22:04,776 --> 00:22:05,026
justiceorkorkroup. I'm calling

659
00:22:05,409 --> 00:22:05,659
about item four on the agenda.

660
00:22:08,743 --> 00:22:08,993
we are in total support of

661
00:22:13,009 --> 00:22:13,259
repealing NrS200.220 criminal

662
00:22:16,509 --> 00:22:16,759
ban on selffmanaged abortion and

663
00:22:20,543 --> 00:22:20,793
NrS201.150 concealing air for

664
00:22:21,276 --> 00:22:21,526
all the work we've done in

665
00:22:23,276 --> 00:22:23,526
Nevada on reproductive rights

666
00:22:25,009 --> 00:22:25,259
it's appalling that these are

667
00:22:27,243 --> 00:22:27,493
still on the books and after

668
00:22:29,009 --> 00:22:29,259
hearing today's presentation we

669
00:22:31,243 --> 00:22:31,493
think you will feel the same. We

670
00:22:32,509 --> 00:22:32,759
also want to concur with the

671
00:22:34,776 --> 00:22:35,026
comments made by M Mccalllister

672
00:22:35,409 --> 00:22:35,659
on human trafficking and

673
00:22:39,009 --> 00:22:39,259
by Mr. betancourt on the death

674
00:22:39,676 --> 00:22:39,926
penalty thank you for your time

675
00:22:50,743 --> 00:22:50,993
Good morning.

676
00:22:53,243 --> 00:22:53,493
my name is ashley Shed and I'm

677
00:22:54,776 --> 00:22:55,026
here today to ask you to take a

678
00:22:56,509 --> 00:22:56,759
stand and end the death penalty

679
00:22:58,509 --> 00:22:58,759
in Nevada. I have never believed

680
00:23:00,509 --> 00:23:00,759
that taking another life is the

681
00:23:01,309 --> 00:23:01,559
answer to even the most terrible

682
00:23:03,276 --> 00:23:03,526
harm but I didn't fully

683
00:23:04,743 --> 00:23:04,993
understand the weight of the

684
00:23:06,509 --> 00:23:06,759
death penalty until it affected

685
00:23:07,276 --> 00:23:07,526
me personally. I have a loved

686
00:23:09,276 --> 00:23:09,526
one on Nevada's death row. I'm

687
00:23:11,009 --> 00:23:11,259
not here to excuse the horrific

688
00:23:12,743 --> 00:23:12,993
tragedies that brought anyone to

689
00:23:14,509 --> 00:23:14,759
prison. Accountability

690
00:23:17,009 --> 00:23:17,259
mattersictims matter but I

691
00:23:18,543 --> 00:23:18,793
believe we can hold people

692
00:23:19,076 --> 00:23:19,326
accountable without taking

693
00:23:19,643 --> 00:23:19,893
another life

694
00:23:22,509 --> 00:23:22,759
My loved 1 was19 years old at

695
00:23:23,209 --> 00:23:23,459
the time of his offense. He was

696
00:23:25,209 --> 00:23:25,459
experiencing profound

697
00:23:26,809 --> 00:23:27,059
psychological distress was deep

698
00:23:28,509 --> 00:23:28,759
in his substance abuse and

699
00:23:29,309 --> 00:23:29,559
experts determined that his

700
00:23:29,876 --> 00:23:30,126
reasoning capacity

701
00:23:32,743 --> 00:23:32,993
was comparable to that of a 10

702
00:23:34,709 --> 00:23:34,959
year old.hink about who you were

703
00:23:36,709 --> 00:23:36,959
at 19, how much have you changed

704
00:23:37,476 --> 00:23:37,726
since then? How differently do

705
00:23:39,276 --> 00:23:39,526
you think make decisions and

706
00:23:42,509 --> 00:23:42,759
understand consequences today if

707
00:23:43,276 --> 00:23:43,526
we recognize growth and maturity

708
00:23:45,276 --> 00:23:45,526
in our own lives how can we

709
00:23:46,776 --> 00:23:47,026
decide that someone is

710
00:23:48,476 --> 00:23:48,726
irreparably corrupted and should

711
00:23:49,476 --> 00:23:49,726
be put to death by the state.

712
00:23:51,243 --> 00:23:51,493
The death penalty does not make

713
00:23:51,909 --> 00:23:52,159
our justice system more just

714
00:23:54,743 --> 00:23:54,993
it is plagued by racial and

715
00:23:56,509 --> 00:23:56,759
economic disparities. it's

716
00:23:57,243 --> 00:23:57,493
expensive and it carries an

717
00:23:59,009 --> 00:23:59,259
irreversible consequence in a

718
00:24:00,709 --> 00:24:00,959
system we know make mistakes

719
00:24:02,943 --> 00:24:03,193
makes mistakes the studies have

720
00:24:04,776 --> 00:24:05,026
been done. the data is there

721
00:24:05,409 --> 00:24:05,659
decadecades of research have

722
00:24:06,776 --> 00:24:07,026
failed to establish the death

723
00:24:08,776 --> 00:24:09,026
penalty as an effective

724
00:24:10,509 --> 00:24:10,759
deterrent to crime. yet we are

725
00:24:12,476 --> 00:24:12,726
living in a time when science

726
00:24:13,276 --> 00:24:13,526
research and evidence are

727
00:24:15,043 --> 00:24:15,293
increasingly being ignored in a

728
00:24:17,276 --> 00:24:17,526
major in major policy decisions

729
00:24:18,743 --> 00:24:18,993
Nevada should not join that

730
00:24:21,009 --> 00:24:21,259
trend when the evidence tells us

731
00:24:21,676 --> 00:24:21,926
a policy is ineffective we

732
00:24:22,309 --> 00:24:22,559
should have

733
00:24:24,743 --> 00:24:24,993
the courage to change it. People

734
00:24:26,509 --> 00:24:26,759
can be held accountable for the

735
00:24:28,509 --> 00:24:28,759
harm they caused and still be

736
00:24:29,243 --> 00:24:29,493
capable of change. Nevada does

737
00:24:30,976 --> 00:24:31,226
not need to kill someone to

738
00:24:31,609 --> 00:24:31,859
demonstrate that we value

739
00:24:33,009 --> 00:24:33,259
justice and we can choose

740
00:24:34,776 --> 00:24:35,026
humanity and believe that no one

741
00:24:37,009 --> 00:24:37,259
is be beyond redemption and

742
00:24:38,509 --> 00:24:38,759
that's the Nevada I hope we

743
00:24:39,109 --> 00:24:39,359
choose to be thank you for your

744
00:24:39,776 --> 00:24:40,026
time.

745
00:24:52,976 --> 00:24:53,226
Good morning care vice chair

746
00:24:54,743 --> 00:24:54,993
members of the committee this is

747
00:24:57,209 --> 00:24:57,459
Doramartinez members of the

748
00:24:58,976 --> 00:24:59,226
Nevada Disability Peer Action

749
00:25:00,976 --> 00:25:01,226
coalition chair please excuse my

750
00:25:03,176 --> 00:25:03,426
ignorance if I'm speaking out of

751
00:25:06,476 --> 00:25:06,726
terms I was trying to get the

752
00:25:08,743 --> 00:25:08,993
items on your work session

753
00:25:11,376 --> 00:25:11,626
number D I believe it's about e

754
00:25:12,043 --> 00:25:12,293
bike

755
00:25:14,709 --> 00:25:14,959
I hope that if

756
00:25:18,509 --> 00:25:18,759
this will be one of the be if

757
00:25:21,176 --> 00:25:21,426
this is this is abDr please

758
00:25:24,943 --> 00:25:25,193
put strong perimeters on it

759
00:25:26,943 --> 00:25:27,193
as you know I'm blind and I have

760
00:25:28,909 --> 00:25:29,159
a guide dog and sometimes the e

761
00:25:29,576 --> 00:25:29,826
bikers

762
00:25:32,709 --> 00:25:32,959
and bicyclists they just whisp

763
00:25:35,176 --> 00:25:35,426
and by us and sometimes they can

764
00:25:36,676 --> 00:25:36,926
hurt my dog and

765
00:25:39,443 --> 00:25:39,693
when my dog is hurt in the

766
00:25:42,509 --> 00:25:42,759
middle of the sidewalk or the

767
00:25:44,743 --> 00:25:44,993
crosswalk if they do that too

768
00:25:47,209 --> 00:25:47,459
the bicyclist it could be

769
00:25:49,209 --> 00:25:49,459
dangerous to me and my service

770
00:25:51,176 --> 00:25:51,426
dog and just a reminder that we

771
00:25:53,409 --> 00:25:53,659
do in Nevada thank God there is

772
00:25:54,076 --> 00:25:54,326
a NrS

773
00:25:59,376 --> 00:25:59,626
426790 and810 that

774
00:26:02,709 --> 00:26:02,959
give safety to the service

775
00:26:03,276 --> 00:26:03,526
animals

776
00:26:03,526 --> 00:26:03,776
but I just

777
00:26:06,709 --> 00:26:06,959
to prevent that I don't want

778
00:26:08,743 --> 00:26:08,993
anything happen to my dog

779
00:26:10,509 --> 00:26:10,759
because as you know veteran

780
00:26:12,709 --> 00:26:12,959
veterinarian bills are very

781
00:26:14,476 --> 00:26:14,726
expensive and I just do not want

782
00:26:15,176 --> 00:26:15,426
my dog to get harmed simply

783
00:26:16,776 --> 00:26:17,026
because he is guiding me as a

784
00:26:20,509 --> 00:26:20,759
blind individual and I sincerely

785
00:26:21,243 --> 00:26:21,493
hope that the accessibility team

786
00:26:23,209 --> 00:26:23,459
can give me the agenda item that

787
00:26:25,243 --> 00:26:25,493
I can read more because it's not

788
00:26:27,343 --> 00:26:27,593
accessible as of now. thank you

789
00:26:28,009 --> 00:26:28,259
chair. take care.

790
00:26:32,676 --> 00:26:32,926
we have no additional callers on

791
00:26:33,343 --> 00:26:33,593
the line for public comment

792
00:26:38,976 --> 00:26:39,226
right. thank you so much.

793
00:26:40,743 --> 00:26:40,993
that takes us to the end of

794
00:26:42,509 --> 00:26:42,759
agenda item number 2. we'll move

795
00:26:44,509 --> 00:26:44,759
on to agenda item number3

796
00:26:45,509 --> 00:26:45,759
approval of the minutes from the

797
00:26:46,976 --> 00:26:47,226
March10th meeting

798
00:26:50,743 --> 00:26:50,993
unless there are comments,

799
00:26:52,543 --> 00:26:52,793
questions I would accept a

800
00:26:53,076 --> 00:26:53,326
motion to approve the minutes.

801
00:26:56,509 --> 00:26:56,759
right we have a motional'll take

802
00:26:57,243 --> 00:26:57,493
the motion from vicechair

803
00:26:58,743 --> 00:26:58,993
Miller. I'll take the second

804
00:27:00,643 --> 00:27:00,893
from senator wynn any discussion

805
00:27:01,309 --> 00:27:01,559
on the motion

806
00:27:05,009 --> 00:27:05,259
seeing none all in favor say aye

807
00:27:07,209 --> 00:27:07,459
i any opposed nay all right the

808
00:27:08,743 --> 00:27:08,993
motion carries we have approved

809
00:27:09,443 --> 00:27:09,693
the minutes from the March10th

810
00:27:10,143 --> 00:27:10,393
meeting

811
00:27:25,109 --> 00:27:25,359
right and with that we'll move

812
00:27:26,509 --> 00:27:26,759
on to our next agenda item we

813
00:27:28,509 --> 00:27:28,759
did have a request to flip

814
00:27:29,543 --> 00:27:29,793
the order of our presentations

815
00:27:31,176 --> 00:27:31,426
and so we will start with agenda

816
00:27:34,776 --> 00:27:35,026
item number5 a presentation

817
00:27:36,509 --> 00:27:36,759
on an audit of the Nevada

818
00:27:37,076 --> 00:27:37,326
Department of Corrections from

819
00:27:39,909 --> 00:27:40,159
Mr Stevenson please go ahead

820
00:27:40,476 --> 00:27:40,726
when you're ready.

821
00:27:46,476 --> 00:27:46,726
good morning Chechiel and

822
00:27:47,243 --> 00:27:47,493
members of the committee for the

823
00:27:49,343 --> 00:27:49,593
record Craig Stevenson, I'm the

824
00:27:51,009 --> 00:27:51,259
administrator of the division of

825
00:27:53,009 --> 00:27:53,259
internal audits. thank

826
00:27:55,043 --> 00:27:55,293
youchaircheibel for inviting me

827
00:27:56,509 --> 00:27:56,759
to give an overview of the

828
00:27:58,509 --> 00:27:58,759
recent work we completed at the

829
00:27:59,276 --> 00:27:59,526
Nevada Department of

830
00:28:01,043 --> 00:28:01,293
Corrections. I really do

831
00:28:03,043 --> 00:28:03,293
appreciate the opportunity to

832
00:28:05,043 --> 00:28:05,293
present our findings to this

833
00:28:06,743 --> 00:28:06,993
committee and to present the

834
00:28:07,609 --> 00:28:07,859
recommendations we issued to the

835
00:28:08,276 --> 00:28:08,526
department

836
00:28:12,743 --> 00:28:12,993
I want to start by directing

837
00:28:14,476 --> 00:28:14,726
committee members' attention to

838
00:28:15,243 --> 00:28:15,493
the exhibit attached to this

839
00:28:17,009 --> 00:28:17,259
agenda item which is the

840
00:28:18,943 --> 00:28:19,193
administrative review report

841
00:28:20,676 --> 00:28:20,926
issued on Julyin,2026.

842
00:28:24,776 --> 00:28:25,026
the report is52 pages so I'll do

843
00:28:25,476 --> 00:28:25,726
my best to keep this

844
00:28:26,976 --> 00:28:27,226
presentation as brief as

845
00:28:29,009 --> 00:28:29,259
possible and focus on high level

846
00:28:29,676 --> 00:28:29,926
findings and recommendations

847
00:28:32,743 --> 00:28:32,993
so at the request of the

848
00:28:34,509 --> 00:28:34,759
governor and the executive

849
00:28:35,076 --> 00:28:35,326
branch audit committee the

850
00:28:36,743 --> 00:28:36,993
division of internal audits

851
00:28:38,476 --> 00:28:38,726
reviewed time sheets and pay

852
00:28:39,409 --> 00:28:39,659
practices at high desert

853
00:28:39,976 --> 00:28:40,226
staterison

854
00:28:42,743 --> 00:28:42,993
and collective bargaining

855
00:28:44,509 --> 00:28:44,759
agreements applicable to

856
00:28:45,043 --> 00:28:45,293
Department of Corrections

857
00:28:45,609 --> 00:28:45,859
employees

858
00:28:48,743 --> 00:28:48,993
findings resulting from the

859
00:28:49,509 --> 00:28:49,759
review have been grouped into

860
00:28:50,643 --> 00:28:50,893
two chapters in the report

861
00:28:54,709 --> 00:28:54,959
chapter one begins on page two.

862
00:28:57,009 --> 00:28:57,259
it addresses notable times sheet

863
00:28:58,976 --> 00:28:59,226
coding errors and findings

864
00:29:00,676 --> 00:29:00,926
related to department pay

865
00:29:01,276 --> 00:29:01,526
practices

866
00:29:04,776 --> 00:29:05,026
we reviewed approximately11,000

867
00:29:07,009 --> 00:29:07,259
times sheets over 19 pay periods

868
00:29:07,676 --> 00:29:07,926
in fiscal year 2026.

869
00:29:11,443 --> 00:29:11,693
Over5000 times sheet errors were

870
00:29:12,109 --> 00:29:12,359
identified

871
00:29:15,209 --> 00:29:15,459
resulting in both underpayments

872
00:29:16,843 --> 00:29:17,093
and overpayments to employees

873
00:29:20,509 --> 00:29:20,759
as a result the department made

874
00:29:21,176 --> 00:29:21,426
2600 pay adjustments

875
00:29:24,909 --> 00:29:25,159
Time sheets were largely found

876
00:29:25,576 --> 00:29:25,826
to be poorly documented

877
00:29:29,009 --> 00:29:29,259
shift times were often missing

878
00:29:30,976 --> 00:29:31,226
or indiscernible hours coded

879
00:29:32,509 --> 00:29:32,759
often did not match the shift

880
00:29:34,743 --> 00:29:34,993
times and eligibility for

881
00:29:36,509 --> 00:29:36,759
special pay coded often

882
00:29:37,176 --> 00:29:37,426
conflicted with the shift

883
00:29:37,743 --> 00:29:37,993
documented

884
00:29:40,776 --> 00:29:41,026
poorly documented time sheets

885
00:29:42,743 --> 00:29:42,993
prevent supervisors and pay

886
00:29:44,943 --> 00:29:45,193
clerks from determining whether

887
00:29:47,009 --> 00:29:47,259
time is coded correctly and that

888
00:29:47,676 --> 00:29:47,926
the employee is paid correctly

889
00:29:50,976 --> 00:29:51,226
over time for example is a

890
00:29:52,743 --> 00:29:52,993
deviation from a standard shift

891
00:29:54,509 --> 00:29:54,759
requiring details to

892
00:29:56,509 --> 00:29:56,759
substantiate the hour worked.

893
00:29:59,209 --> 00:29:59,459
However, we identified over800

894
00:30:01,209 --> 00:30:01,459
instances in which time coded as

895
00:30:02,976 --> 00:30:03,226
over time conflicted with

896
00:30:03,543 --> 00:30:03,793
information documented in the

897
00:30:04,109 --> 00:30:04,359
time sheet.

898
00:30:07,243 --> 00:30:07,493
thousands of other errors

899
00:30:09,209 --> 00:30:09,459
highlight deficiencies in both

900
00:30:10,976 --> 00:30:11,226
employee comprehension of times

901
00:30:12,776 --> 00:30:13,026
sheet coding requirements and

902
00:30:14,743 --> 00:30:14,993
the review and approval process

903
00:30:16,643 --> 00:30:16,893
performed by supervisors and pay

904
00:30:17,309 --> 00:30:17,559
clerks.

905
00:30:20,509 --> 00:30:20,759
on page eight of the report we

906
00:30:23,009 --> 00:30:23,259
note that over 2000 errors were

907
00:30:24,476 --> 00:30:24,726
made relating to shift

908
00:30:26,909 --> 00:30:27,159
differential pay which resulted

909
00:30:27,576 --> 00:30:27,826
in pay adjustments

910
00:30:29,476 --> 00:30:29,726
shift differential pay is a

911
00:30:31,276 --> 00:30:31,526
type of premium pay for working

912
00:30:34,509 --> 00:30:34,759
less desirable hours typically

913
00:30:36,743 --> 00:30:36,993
starts in the afternoon or the

914
00:30:38,476 --> 00:30:38,726
evening at high desert State

915
00:30:40,743 --> 00:30:40,993
Prison shift differential pay

916
00:30:42,776 --> 00:30:43,026
the qualifying period starts

917
00:30:45,309 --> 00:30:45,559
at one pm. as an example.shift

918
00:30:47,309 --> 00:30:47,559
differential pay is often coded

919
00:30:49,309 --> 00:30:49,559
by employees not entitled to it

920
00:30:51,309 --> 00:30:51,559
and missing when it was due to

921
00:30:52,776 --> 00:30:53,026
the employee for working in a

922
00:30:53,476 --> 00:30:53,726
qualifying schedule.

923
00:30:55,276 --> 00:30:55,526
page nine of the report

924
00:30:58,509 --> 00:30:58,759
discloses hundreds of musterpa

925
00:30:59,243 --> 00:30:59,493
coding errors that resulted in

926
00:31:02,976 --> 00:31:03,226
pay adjustments muster time is45

927
00:31:04,509 --> 00:31:04,759
minutes of overtime pay that

928
00:31:05,309 --> 00:31:05,559
correctional officers receive

929
00:31:06,643 --> 00:31:06,893
every day they show up to work

930
00:31:09,176 --> 00:31:09,426
muster time was often missing

931
00:31:11,609 --> 00:31:11,859
from day worked and improperly

932
00:31:12,276 --> 00:31:12,526
included on days not worked

933
00:31:15,209 --> 00:31:15,459
Additionally some correctional

934
00:31:17,176 --> 00:31:17,426
officers coded more than 24

935
00:31:18,976 --> 00:31:19,226
hours per day when accounting

936
00:31:20,643 --> 00:31:20,893
for muststerpay and standby

937
00:31:21,176 --> 00:31:21,426
time.

938
00:31:23,243 --> 00:31:23,493
this practice indicates that

939
00:31:24,976 --> 00:31:25,226
musterpa is viewed as a pay

940
00:31:26,776 --> 00:31:27,026
entitlement rather than

941
00:31:28,743 --> 00:31:28,993
compensation for the time it

942
00:31:30,509 --> 00:31:30,759
takes to travel to and from a

943
00:31:32,543 --> 00:31:32,793
post in a correctional facility

944
00:31:33,209 --> 00:31:33,459
before and after the assigned

945
00:31:33,876 --> 00:31:34,126
shift.

946
00:31:36,743 --> 00:31:36,993
some officers arrived late to

947
00:31:39,043 --> 00:31:39,293
their posts but still claimed45

948
00:31:39,709 --> 00:31:39,959
minutes of muster pay.

949
00:31:44,476 --> 00:31:44,726
beginning on page four of the

950
00:31:45,176 --> 00:31:45,426
report we discussed the

951
00:31:46,976 --> 00:31:47,226
complexities of coding various

952
00:31:47,609 --> 00:31:47,859
types of holiday pay

953
00:31:51,009 --> 00:31:51,259
we found that holiday pay was

954
00:31:52,776 --> 00:31:53,026
frequently coded incorrectly on

955
00:31:54,743 --> 00:31:54,993
employee time sheets indicating

956
00:31:56,776 --> 00:31:57,026
a pattern of confusion among

957
00:31:58,909 --> 00:31:59,159
employees supervisors and pay

958
00:31:59,509 --> 00:31:59,759
clerks alike.

959
00:32:01,476 --> 00:32:01,726
this is most likely due to the

960
00:32:03,009 --> 00:32:03,259
large number of pay codes used

961
00:32:05,243 --> 00:32:05,493
by the department and a lack of

962
00:32:07,209 --> 00:32:07,459
training and possibly the 24

963
00:32:09,243 --> 00:32:09,493
hour nature of prison operations

964
00:32:12,509 --> 00:32:12,759
where employees work shifts that

965
00:32:13,209 --> 00:32:13,459
often spann the midnight to

966
00:32:16,543 --> 00:32:16,793
midnight legal holiday hours

967
00:32:17,276 --> 00:32:17,526
and certain other errors were

968
00:32:19,309 --> 00:32:19,559
less prevalent but nonetheless

969
00:32:20,976 --> 00:32:21,226
reflected deficient time sheet

970
00:32:23,009 --> 00:32:23,259
coding and review process for

971
00:32:25,509 --> 00:32:25,759
example on page six of the

972
00:32:28,509 --> 00:32:28,759
report we identify a novel

973
00:32:29,109 --> 00:32:29,359
practice of overtime hours being

974
00:32:33,176 --> 00:32:33,426
flexed to offset Aal or unpaid

975
00:32:33,843 --> 00:32:34,093
leave time

976
00:32:37,209 --> 00:32:37,459
correctional officers sometimes

977
00:32:38,976 --> 00:32:39,226
work one or more overtime shifts

978
00:32:40,976 --> 00:32:41,226
in the same pay period as AO

979
00:32:43,209 --> 00:32:43,459
time or unpaid leave time and

980
00:32:44,976 --> 00:32:45,226
then they code the overtime

981
00:32:46,809 --> 00:32:47,059
hours as regular time on the

982
00:32:47,476 --> 00:32:47,726
day's absent

983
00:32:49,276 --> 00:32:49,526
this cumbersome practice of

984
00:32:51,243 --> 00:32:51,493
flexing over time to cover

985
00:32:53,276 --> 00:32:53,526
unpaid absences often leads to

986
00:32:55,209 --> 00:32:55,459
coding more or less time on a

987
00:32:57,076 --> 00:32:57,326
time sheet that is actually

988
00:32:57,643 --> 00:32:57,893
worked

989
00:33:00,509 --> 00:33:00,759
Chapter one of the report

990
00:33:02,476 --> 00:33:02,726
included5 recommendations to

991
00:33:03,209 --> 00:33:03,459
improve time sheet coding and

992
00:33:04,509 --> 00:33:04,759
the time sheet review and

993
00:33:06,509 --> 00:33:06,759
approval process

994
00:33:08,509 --> 00:33:08,759
recommendcommation1.1 is to

995
00:33:09,209 --> 00:33:09,459
enforce time sheet coding

996
00:33:12,509 --> 00:33:12,759
requirements recommendation1.2

997
00:33:14,476 --> 00:33:14,726
is to update and clarify time

998
00:33:15,143 --> 00:33:15,393
sheet coding guidance

999
00:33:17,309 --> 00:33:17,559
recommendation1.3 is to augment

1000
00:33:19,276 --> 00:33:19,526
time sheet training provided to

1001
00:33:21,276 --> 00:33:21,526
both employees and their the

1002
00:33:23,276 --> 00:33:23,526
trainees mainly correctional

1003
00:33:24,976 --> 00:33:25,226
officer trainees

1004
00:33:27,109 --> 00:33:27,359
recommendcommendation1.4 is to

1005
00:33:27,776 --> 00:33:28,026
investigate instances of

1006
00:33:29,076 --> 00:33:29,326
suspected time sheet abuse

1007
00:33:32,743 --> 00:33:32,993
and recommendation1.5 is to

1008
00:33:34,476 --> 00:33:34,726
install badge readers and

1009
00:33:35,076 --> 00:33:35,326
staffing entrances

1010
00:33:38,776 --> 00:33:39,026
that concludes chapter one,

1011
00:33:41,009 --> 00:33:41,259
chapter 2 begins on page 21 of

1012
00:33:43,009 --> 00:33:43,259
the report and pertains to

1013
00:33:45,009 --> 00:33:45,259
collective bargaining agreements

1014
00:33:48,509 --> 00:33:48,759
or CBAs these CBAs that I'm

1015
00:33:50,509 --> 00:33:50,759
going to discuss are applicable

1016
00:33:51,243 --> 00:33:51,493
to most of the department of

1017
00:33:53,276 --> 00:33:53,526
Corrections employees. Chapter

1018
00:33:55,009 --> 00:33:55,259
two addresses vague provisions

1019
00:33:57,043 --> 00:33:57,293
of the CBAs that failed to

1020
00:33:58,743 --> 00:33:58,993
provide sufficient guidance for

1021
00:33:59,576 --> 00:33:59,826
implementing the agreement

1022
00:34:00,143 --> 00:34:00,393
provisions

1023
00:34:02,976 --> 00:34:03,226
Vague language relying heavily

1024
00:34:04,943 --> 00:34:05,193
on legal interpretation does not

1025
00:34:07,176 --> 00:34:07,426
help the employees depending on

1026
00:34:09,009 --> 00:34:09,259
dependent on the agreement terms

1027
00:34:10,776 --> 00:34:11,026
nor does it help promote a

1028
00:34:12,543 --> 00:34:12,793
shared understanding between

1029
00:34:14,609 --> 00:34:14,859
parties to the gre to the

1030
00:34:16,509 --> 00:34:16,759
agreement. findings related

1031
00:34:17,209 --> 00:34:17,459
to muster pay granted by the

1032
00:34:19,209 --> 00:34:19,459
CBAs begin on page 22 of the

1033
00:34:19,776 --> 00:34:20,026
report

1034
00:34:22,743 --> 00:34:22,993
notably the CBA is entitled

1035
00:34:24,743 --> 00:34:24,993
Correctional officer to payment

1036
00:34:26,743 --> 00:34:26,993
of45 minutes of muster time for

1037
00:34:28,976 --> 00:34:29,226
everyday worked regardless of

1038
00:34:29,609 --> 00:34:29,859
post or work assignment.

1039
00:34:33,243 --> 00:34:33,493
This contradicts the fact that

1040
00:34:34,776 --> 00:34:35,026
muster time was granted

1041
00:34:36,509 --> 00:34:36,759
specifically to account for the

1042
00:34:38,509 --> 00:34:38,759
time needed to walk to and from

1043
00:34:39,276 --> 00:34:39,526
the gatehouse to the assigned

1044
00:34:41,243 --> 00:34:41,493
post and exchange passdown

1045
00:34:43,243 --> 00:34:43,493
instructions before and after a

1046
00:34:45,476 --> 00:34:45,726
shift. Officers assigned duties

1047
00:34:47,276 --> 00:34:47,526
other than a standard post such

1048
00:34:49,309 --> 00:34:49,559
as assignment to hospital

1049
00:34:51,276 --> 00:34:51,526
training or honor guard are

1050
00:34:54,509 --> 00:34:54,759
receiving musterpay outside of

1051
00:34:56,509 --> 00:34:56,759
its originally intended purpose

1052
00:34:58,509 --> 00:34:58,759
narrowing must repay eligibility

1053
00:35:00,676 --> 00:35:00,926
at high desert State Prison

1054
00:35:01,243 --> 00:35:01,493
alone would save the state over

1055
00:35:05,009 --> 00:35:05,259
$200,000 annually as shown on

1056
00:35:05,643 --> 00:35:05,893
page 24 of the report

1057
00:35:10,509 --> 00:35:10,759
g in ning on page 25 of the

1058
00:35:11,209 --> 00:35:11,459
report we discussed the impact

1059
00:35:13,009 --> 00:35:13,259
of the CBA's defining

1060
00:35:14,776 --> 00:35:15,026
eligibility for shift

1061
00:35:16,743 --> 00:35:16,993
differential pay based on the

1062
00:35:19,076 --> 00:35:19,326
shift assigned rather than the

1063
00:35:19,743 --> 00:35:19,993
hours's worked

1064
00:35:22,509 --> 00:35:22,759
eligibility for shift

1065
00:35:23,276 --> 00:35:23,526
differential pay as outlined in

1066
00:35:26,509 --> 00:35:26,759
the CBAs is based on arbitrary

1067
00:35:28,743 --> 00:35:28,993
shift designations which vary

1068
00:35:29,443 --> 00:35:29,693
from one correctional facility

1069
00:35:30,109 --> 00:35:30,359
to another

1070
00:35:32,743 --> 00:35:32,993
simplymply call in a shift swing

1071
00:35:34,943 --> 00:35:35,193
shift renders it eligible

1072
00:35:36,743 --> 00:35:36,993
regardless of the start and end

1073
00:35:38,743 --> 00:35:38,993
times of the shift. This

1074
00:35:40,509 --> 00:35:40,759
practice differs from state

1075
00:35:42,976 --> 00:35:43,226
regulations and other CBAs that

1076
00:35:44,976 --> 00:35:45,226
designate eligibility for shift

1077
00:35:47,076 --> 00:35:47,326
differential pay based upon the

1078
00:35:47,743 --> 00:35:47,993
specific hours worked

1079
00:35:51,009 --> 00:35:51,259
beginning on page 27 of the

1080
00:35:52,509 --> 00:35:52,759
report we discussed several

1081
00:35:54,509 --> 00:35:54,759
provisions of the CBA's related

1082
00:35:56,509 --> 00:35:56,759
to holiday pay which

1083
00:35:57,276 --> 00:35:57,526
insufficiently addressed the

1084
00:35:58,909 --> 00:35:59,159
complexities of coding holiday

1085
00:35:59,543 --> 00:35:59,793
time

1086
00:36:02,743 --> 00:36:02,993
the vague CBA provisions do not

1087
00:36:03,476 --> 00:36:03,726
fully consider the unique

1088
00:36:05,209 --> 00:36:05,459
circumstances encountered at a

1089
00:36:06,876 --> 00:36:07,126
24 hour correctional facility

1090
00:36:10,476 --> 00:36:10,726
Correctional employees are

1091
00:36:12,509 --> 00:36:12,759
expected to work holidays and

1092
00:36:13,276 --> 00:36:13,526
night shift employees will

1093
00:36:15,243 --> 00:36:15,493
perform work both in partial

1094
00:36:17,009 --> 00:36:17,259
shifts and multiple shifts

1095
00:36:18,976 --> 00:36:19,226
within that legal midnight to

1096
00:36:21,243 --> 00:36:21,493
midnight holiday window.

1097
00:36:23,276 --> 00:36:23,526
lastly and perhaps most

1098
00:36:26,743 --> 00:36:26,993
importantly on page ir1 of the

1099
00:36:27,509 --> 00:36:27,759
report we note that the CBA's

1100
00:36:29,043 --> 00:36:29,293
allow employees to work

1101
00:36:30,843 --> 00:36:31,093
excessive hours indefinitely

1102
00:36:34,743 --> 00:36:34,993
missing from the CBAs are terms

1103
00:36:36,476 --> 00:36:36,726
limiting the maximum number of

1104
00:36:37,476 --> 00:36:37,726
hours a correctional officer may

1105
00:36:38,943 --> 00:36:39,193
work in any given time frame

1106
00:36:43,009 --> 00:36:43,259
Currently correctional officers

1107
00:36:44,476 --> 00:36:44,726
are allowed to work double

1108
00:36:46,976 --> 00:36:47,226
shifts of six hours and45

1109
00:36:49,009 --> 00:36:49,259
minutes indefinitely which

1110
00:36:50,676 --> 00:36:50,926
presents health and safety

1111
00:36:51,243 --> 00:36:51,493
concerns

1112
00:36:56,743 --> 00:36:56,993
in appendix E on page 52 of this

1113
00:36:58,509 --> 00:36:58,759
report it's the very last page.

1114
00:37:00,543 --> 00:37:00,793
We show the time sheet of an

1115
00:37:01,109 --> 00:37:01,359
employee that worked every day

1116
00:37:01,809 --> 00:37:02,059
of the pay period

1117
00:37:04,943 --> 00:37:05,193
the employee worked several

1118
00:37:05,576 --> 00:37:05,826
sixteenho double shifts

1119
00:37:08,976 --> 00:37:09,226
then 2 t2hour shifts on their

1120
00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:11,359
days off followed by a 20 hour

1121
00:37:11,809 --> 00:37:12,059
shift

1122
00:37:14,476 --> 00:37:14,726
and then reported to their next

1123
00:37:15,509 --> 00:37:15,759
shift4 hours later which is

1124
00:37:16,076 --> 00:37:16,326
very concerning

1125
00:37:19,243 --> 00:37:19,493
The CBAs do not restrict the

1126
00:37:22,509 --> 00:37:22,759
number of consecutive shifts or

1127
00:37:23,243 --> 00:37:23,493
overtime hours that a

1128
00:37:23,676 --> 00:37:23,926
correctional officer may work

1129
00:37:26,976 --> 00:37:27,226
the department intends to work

1130
00:37:28,776 --> 00:37:29,026
with the union representing

1131
00:37:30,543 --> 00:37:30,793
correctional officers to limit

1132
00:37:32,776 --> 00:37:33,026
excessive hours by creating a

1133
00:37:33,443 --> 00:37:33,693
memorandum of understanding

1134
00:37:36,976 --> 00:37:37,226
ri or to the CBA's taking

1135
00:37:38,509 --> 00:37:38,759
effect, correctional officers

1136
00:37:40,709 --> 00:37:40,959
could work16 hour shifts for

1137
00:37:41,343 --> 00:37:41,593
more than two consecutive days

1138
00:37:44,743 --> 00:37:44,993
there are5 recommendations made

1139
00:37:46,743 --> 00:37:46,993
in chapter two of the report

1140
00:37:48,976 --> 00:37:49,226
which are shown on page 34. each

1141
00:37:50,743 --> 00:37:50,993
recommendation requires

1142
00:37:51,176 --> 00:37:51,426
coordination with the division

1143
00:37:52,643 --> 00:37:52,893
of humanmansource Management

1144
00:37:55,276 --> 00:37:55,526
Recommendation2.1 is to

1145
00:37:56,776 --> 00:37:57,026
negotiate and clarify

1146
00:37:57,276 --> 00:37:57,526
eligibility for musterpa.

1147
00:38:00,743 --> 00:38:00,993
Recommendation2.2 is to

1148
00:38:02,743 --> 00:38:02,993
establish shift differential pay

1149
00:38:04,743 --> 00:38:04,993
eligibility criteria based on

1150
00:38:06,509 --> 00:38:06,759
hours' worked rather than

1151
00:38:07,276 --> 00:38:07,526
assigned shifts

1152
00:38:09,276 --> 00:38:09,526
recommendcommendation2.3 is to

1153
00:38:10,676 --> 00:38:10,926
clarify a holiday pay provisions

1154
00:38:14,509 --> 00:38:14,759
recommendation 2.4 is to

1155
00:38:15,243 --> 00:38:15,493
establish limits on the number

1156
00:38:17,176 --> 00:38:17,426
of hours that may be worked in

1157
00:38:19,109 --> 00:38:19,359
one day and over consecutive

1158
00:38:19,776 --> 00:38:20,026
periods of time

1159
00:38:23,009 --> 00:38:23,259
and recommendation 2.5 is to

1160
00:38:23,643 --> 00:38:23,893
clarify ruralpa eligibility

1161
00:38:27,309 --> 00:38:27,559
for your information the

1162
00:38:28,976 --> 00:38:29,226
department submitted a response

1163
00:38:30,509 --> 00:38:30,759
and implementation plan for all

1164
00:38:32,743 --> 00:38:32,993
recommendations issued which is

1165
00:38:34,743 --> 00:38:34,993
shown in Appendix B of the

1166
00:38:35,309 --> 00:38:35,559
report starting on page 39.

1167
00:38:38,743 --> 00:38:38,993
the report was released to the

1168
00:38:40,476 --> 00:38:40,726
executive branch audit committee

1169
00:38:42,509 --> 00:38:42,759
and made publicly available on

1170
00:38:44,743 --> 00:38:44,993
July9,2026. The division of

1171
00:38:46,509 --> 00:38:46,759
internal audits will follow up

1172
00:38:47,143 --> 00:38:47,393
on the status of all

1173
00:38:49,043 --> 00:38:49,293
recommendations in January of

1174
00:38:52,476 --> 00:38:52,726
2027. This concludes my

1175
00:38:53,243 --> 00:38:53,493
presentation and I'm happy to

1176
00:38:54,809 --> 00:38:55,059
answer any questions the

1177
00:38:55,409 --> 00:38:55,659
committee may have

1178
00:39:02,509 --> 00:39:02,759
thank you so much for that

1179
00:39:03,276 --> 00:39:03,526
presentation and we will start

1180
00:39:05,376 --> 00:39:05,626
with questions up here in Las

1181
00:39:06,043 --> 00:39:06,293
Vegas.

1182
00:39:09,476 --> 00:39:09,726
well maybe we don't have any

1183
00:39:11,376 --> 00:39:11,626
senatorwynn

1184
00:39:15,343 --> 00:39:15,593
thank you and I don't know if

1185
00:39:17,109 --> 00:39:17,359
you have the answer to this but

1186
00:39:21,009 --> 00:39:21,259
I know that they recently got

1187
00:39:25,276 --> 00:39:25,526
their staff study completed

1188
00:39:27,476 --> 00:39:27,726
finally after a couple years

1189
00:39:31,009 --> 00:39:31,259
delay and reinstituting it that

1190
00:39:33,643 --> 00:39:33,893
made recommendations for

1191
00:39:38,943 --> 00:39:39,193
like staffing needs and staffing

1192
00:39:42,509 --> 00:39:42,759
changes so this audit does it

1193
00:39:44,543 --> 00:39:44,793
have does it are you able to

1194
00:39:45,209 --> 00:39:45,459
take into consideration how

1195
00:39:49,076 --> 00:39:49,326
some of those proposed changes

1196
00:39:50,543 --> 00:39:50,793
would affect some of the

1197
00:39:51,243 --> 00:39:51,493
outcomes that they might have in

1198
00:39:51,909 --> 00:39:52,159
the future

1199
00:39:55,109 --> 00:39:55,359
A am I asking you to have a

1200
00:39:55,643 --> 00:39:55,893
crystal ball?

1201
00:40:00,976 --> 00:40:01,226
no think can I can take a shot

1202
00:40:02,976 --> 00:40:03,226
at it regarding that staffing

1203
00:40:04,976 --> 00:40:05,226
study my understanding is

1204
00:40:07,109 --> 00:40:07,359
there's some800 positions short

1205
00:40:10,743 --> 00:40:10,993
according to the staffing

1206
00:40:14,509 --> 00:40:14,759
study so if we think that

1207
00:40:16,509 --> 00:40:16,759
overtime is going to be reduced

1208
00:40:17,209 --> 00:40:17,459
without filling

1209
00:40:19,309 --> 00:40:19,559
a significant number of

1210
00:40:22,476 --> 00:40:22,726
positions that that that's

1211
00:40:24,743 --> 00:40:24,993
just not possible in order to

1212
00:40:26,743 --> 00:40:26,993
reduce overtime specifically at

1213
00:40:28,743 --> 00:40:28,993
high desert staterison they

1214
00:40:31,043 --> 00:40:31,293
would have to fill a remaining

1215
00:40:33,009 --> 00:40:33,259
vacant positions. the

1216
00:40:34,743 --> 00:40:34,993
interesting thing about that

1217
00:40:36,509 --> 00:40:36,759
staffing study is that it

1218
00:40:37,209 --> 00:40:37,459
proposes even more positions

1219
00:40:40,976 --> 00:40:41,226
and so one of the questions that

1220
00:40:42,743 --> 00:40:42,993
legislators have asked in the

1221
00:40:45,009 --> 00:40:45,259
past is when EdoC asks for more

1222
00:40:47,009 --> 00:40:47,259
positions is they say well you

1223
00:40:48,509 --> 00:40:48,759
haven't filled your current

1224
00:40:50,509 --> 00:40:50,759
positions so why would we give

1225
00:40:52,509 --> 00:40:52,759
you more positions and so endoc

1226
00:40:54,509 --> 00:40:54,759
has to fill the current

1227
00:40:55,343 --> 00:40:55,593
vacancies and then

1228
00:40:58,509 --> 00:40:58,759
essentially ask for more

1229
00:41:00,743 --> 00:41:00,993
positions to reduce overtime

1230
00:41:02,476 --> 00:41:02,726
further cause they'll still rely

1231
00:41:04,676 --> 00:41:04,926
on overtime specifically at high

1232
00:41:05,343 --> 00:41:05,593
desert staterison.

1233
00:41:08,743 --> 00:41:08,993
and so the overtime issue is

1234
00:41:10,509 --> 00:41:10,759
not something that's going to go

1235
00:41:14,476 --> 00:41:14,726
away just by reducing vacancies

1236
00:41:15,476 --> 00:41:15,726
they would also have to get

1237
00:41:18,509 --> 00:41:18,759
some new positions in order

1238
00:41:20,743 --> 00:41:20,993
to completely reduce that and

1239
00:41:21,409 --> 00:41:21,659
and that's a very difficult

1240
00:41:22,009 --> 00:41:22,259
thing to do

1241
00:41:25,243 --> 00:41:25,493
and if I can just follow up

1242
00:41:27,243 --> 00:41:27,493
chair if that's OK thank you

1243
00:41:30,476 --> 00:41:30,726
when when you're talking about

1244
00:41:31,443 --> 00:41:31,693
and you you may have

1245
00:41:33,009 --> 00:41:33,259
mentioned this and I'm sure it's

1246
00:41:34,743 --> 00:41:34,993
in the study. Do you know what

1247
00:41:37,276 --> 00:41:37,526
the average obviously this came

1248
00:41:40,509 --> 00:41:40,759
to our attention at least in

1249
00:41:41,276 --> 00:41:41,526
during session on the money

1250
00:41:43,243 --> 00:41:43,493
committees because we realized

1251
00:41:45,309 --> 00:41:45,559
that there were employees that

1252
00:41:48,509 --> 00:41:48,759
were working as you explained

1253
00:41:49,443 --> 00:41:49,693
like crazy amounts of hours

1254
00:41:50,009 --> 00:41:50,259
which

1255
00:41:54,743 --> 00:41:54,993
I had concerns about safety

1256
00:41:56,743 --> 00:41:56,993
all kinds of things in addition

1257
00:41:59,009 --> 00:41:59,259
to potential fraud. do you know

1258
00:42:01,209 --> 00:42:01,459
what the average salary is for

1259
00:42:04,943 --> 00:42:05,193
all and like corrections

1260
00:42:07,009 --> 00:42:07,259
staff at like high desert for

1261
00:42:08,743 --> 00:42:08,993
example where it seems like

1262
00:42:10,709 --> 00:42:10,959
majority of the abuses are the

1263
00:42:11,643 --> 00:42:11,893
majority of the overtime uses

1264
00:42:12,343 --> 00:42:12,593
there

1265
00:42:19,243 --> 00:42:19,493
that do not know off the top of

1266
00:42:22,476 --> 00:42:22,726
my head what the average salary

1267
00:42:24,509 --> 00:42:24,759
is now if you're comparing

1268
00:42:25,209 --> 00:42:25,459
prison to prison I could give

1269
00:42:27,209 --> 00:42:27,459
you a little bit of insight

1270
00:42:29,209 --> 00:42:29,459
which is that the the officer's

1271
00:42:30,976 --> 00:42:31,226
working at high desert

1272
00:42:32,776 --> 00:42:33,026
staterison. there's more

1273
00:42:34,976 --> 00:42:35,226
vacancies there in my opinion

1274
00:42:37,209 --> 00:42:37,459
because they have to drive about

1275
00:42:38,509 --> 00:42:38,759
depending on where you live in

1276
00:42:40,976 --> 00:42:41,226
Las Vegas right uh30 minutes to

1277
00:42:43,409 --> 00:42:43,659
an hour if you live where I

1278
00:42:43,976 --> 00:42:44,226
lived in Henderson

1279
00:42:46,509 --> 00:42:46,759
it'd take about an hour to get

1280
00:42:47,209 --> 00:42:47,459
to high desert Staterison if you

1281
00:42:48,976 --> 00:42:49,226
live on the north end of town

1282
00:42:51,176 --> 00:42:51,426
maybe30 minutes and that's

1283
00:42:54,476 --> 00:42:54,726
kind of a tough sell to make

1284
00:42:55,443 --> 00:42:55,693
someone commute that kind of

1285
00:42:56,976 --> 00:42:57,226
distance all the way out to the

1286
00:43:00,543 --> 00:43:00,793
prison. I can also tell you

1287
00:43:02,509 --> 00:43:02,759
having visited the prison

1288
00:43:04,776 --> 00:43:05,026
numerous times throughout this

1289
00:43:05,476 --> 00:43:05,726
review that we did that

1290
00:43:10,543 --> 00:43:10,793
because high desert is a

1291
00:43:12,743 --> 00:43:12,993
Nevada's maximum security prison

1292
00:43:14,743 --> 00:43:14,993
right it has some of the the

1293
00:43:15,543 --> 00:43:15,793
roughest offenders

1294
00:43:19,009 --> 00:43:19,259
it's a difficult place to work

1295
00:43:20,976 --> 00:43:21,226
it's a difficult environment to

1296
00:43:24,509 --> 00:43:24,759
work in on my tour one of

1297
00:43:26,543 --> 00:43:26,793
my the many tours that I took

1298
00:43:27,209 --> 00:43:27,459
through there there were

1299
00:43:31,209 --> 00:43:31,459
feces being thrown outside of

1300
00:43:33,243 --> 00:43:33,493
jail cells there was a cell

1301
00:43:35,209 --> 00:43:35,459
extraction that I witnessed

1302
00:43:37,043 --> 00:43:37,293
where someone was fighting three

1303
00:43:39,009 --> 00:43:39,259
correctional officers it's a

1304
00:43:41,209 --> 00:43:41,459
dangerous environment and that's

1305
00:43:43,209 --> 00:43:43,459
probably the most dangerous of

1306
00:43:44,976 --> 00:43:45,226
the prisons. it's also the

1307
00:43:46,976 --> 00:43:47,226
largest prison by far I think

1308
00:43:48,776 --> 00:43:49,026
there's about double the number

1309
00:43:50,976 --> 00:43:51,226
of correctional officers and

1310
00:43:52,776 --> 00:43:53,026
probably about double the number

1311
00:43:54,509 --> 00:43:54,759
of inmates at that prison than

1312
00:43:56,743 --> 00:43:56,993
any other prison and so that's

1313
00:43:57,343 --> 00:43:57,593
why I think high desert

1314
00:43:58,676 --> 00:43:58,926
experiences

1315
00:44:01,443 --> 00:44:01,693
a tougher time filling those

1316
00:44:02,009 --> 00:44:02,259
vacancies

1317
00:44:09,009 --> 00:44:09,259
Thank you if it's possible I

1318
00:44:09,609 --> 00:44:09,859
might follow up with you

1319
00:44:11,276 --> 00:44:11,526
afterward to find out whether or

1320
00:44:15,309 --> 00:44:15,559
not there is if it's a

1321
00:44:17,009 --> 00:44:17,259
available to look at that

1322
00:44:18,809 --> 00:44:19,059
information. I guess what I'm

1323
00:44:20,743 --> 00:44:20,993
wondering is is I know what we

1324
00:44:23,243 --> 00:44:23,493
have allocated for the salaries

1325
00:44:26,776 --> 00:44:27,026
for these state workers but

1326
00:44:28,776 --> 00:44:29,026
I'm curious what their actual

1327
00:44:30,509 --> 00:44:30,759
amount that we are paying them

1328
00:44:31,109 --> 00:44:31,359
when we look at overtime costs

1329
00:44:37,009 --> 00:44:37,259
just trying to figure out where

1330
00:44:38,743 --> 00:44:38,993
all that money goes from and

1331
00:44:40,676 --> 00:44:40,926
whether or not we are

1332
00:44:41,143 --> 00:44:41,393
potentially

1333
00:44:42,909 --> 00:44:43,159
paying one person

1334
00:44:44,643 --> 00:44:44,893
with overtime

1335
00:44:48,509 --> 00:44:48,759
and we could conceivably hire

1336
00:44:50,476 --> 00:44:50,726
two or three other people at

1337
00:44:52,709 --> 00:44:52,959
whatever the standard pay is so

1338
00:44:53,376 --> 00:44:53,626
thank you so much

1339
00:45:01,243 --> 00:45:01,493
right. I think assembly

1340
00:45:02,676 --> 00:45:02,926
memberhanson had a question

1341
00:45:03,243 --> 00:45:03,493
please go ahead

1342
00:45:04,976 --> 00:45:05,226
thank you

1343
00:45:08,509 --> 00:45:08,759
and thank you for being here

1344
00:45:10,476 --> 00:45:10,726
I wanted to clarify a little bit

1345
00:45:12,509 --> 00:45:12,759
on the first part of the report

1346
00:45:14,509 --> 00:45:14,759
where you were talking about the

1347
00:45:16,709 --> 00:45:16,959
flexing over time being used

1348
00:45:19,209 --> 00:45:19,459
sometimes to offset the absence

1349
00:45:21,076 --> 00:45:21,326
without leave or following

1350
00:45:24,509 --> 00:45:24,759
proper protocol so and I

1351
00:45:25,176 --> 00:45:25,426
appreciate Senator Wwynn's

1352
00:45:27,009 --> 00:45:27,259
questions because diving into

1353
00:45:28,509 --> 00:45:28,759
some of the things she was

1354
00:45:29,243 --> 00:45:29,493
trying to flush out I think are

1355
00:45:32,476 --> 00:45:32,726
really important for us to try

1356
00:45:33,309 --> 00:45:33,559
to get a grip on on

1357
00:45:33,743 --> 00:45:33,993
understanding how we can really

1358
00:45:34,443 --> 00:45:34,693
be

1359
00:45:35,943 --> 00:45:36,193
effective on this

1360
00:45:39,209 --> 00:45:39,459
so when it comes to if you could

1361
00:45:41,409 --> 00:45:41,659
define what flexen means I mean

1362
00:45:42,976 --> 00:45:43,226
I I think I understand but I

1363
00:45:45,009 --> 00:45:45,259
think just to get on the record

1364
00:45:46,709 --> 00:45:46,959
and for the public that might be

1365
00:45:48,943 --> 00:45:49,193
listening so that they might

1366
00:45:50,476 --> 00:45:50,726
understand what what do we mean

1367
00:45:53,176 --> 00:45:53,426
by flexing in this term in the

1368
00:45:53,876 --> 00:45:54,126
in this

1369
00:45:54,126 --> 00:45:54,376
instance

1370
00:45:58,776 --> 00:45:59,026
sure so in this instance and

1371
00:46:00,509 --> 00:46:00,759
generally I would say for

1372
00:46:01,176 --> 00:46:01,426
classified employees at the

1373
00:46:03,376 --> 00:46:03,626
state when you flex time you

1374
00:46:05,176 --> 00:46:05,426
don't work a certain amount of

1375
00:46:07,143 --> 00:46:07,393
time on one day and then you

1376
00:46:09,176 --> 00:46:09,426
work a corresponding amount of

1377
00:46:12,476 --> 00:46:12,726
time on a different day. so

1378
00:46:14,509 --> 00:46:14,759
in this particular instance I'll

1379
00:46:15,443 --> 00:46:15,693
give you an example. let's say a

1380
00:46:17,143 --> 00:46:17,393
correctional officer called out

1381
00:46:17,843 --> 00:46:18,093
on a Monday

1382
00:46:21,176 --> 00:46:21,426
and it wasn't preapproved leave

1383
00:46:23,209 --> 00:46:23,459
and maybe they didn't have any

1384
00:46:25,143 --> 00:46:25,393
sick leave or annual leave to

1385
00:46:28,809 --> 00:46:29,059
cover that. They might miss a 8

1386
00:46:30,509 --> 00:46:30,759
hour10ho12 hour shift we'll say

1387
00:46:32,776 --> 00:46:33,026
an eight hour shift what they

1388
00:46:34,743 --> 00:46:34,993
would do is come in on say a

1389
00:46:38,509 --> 00:46:38,759
Friday and work8 hours of

1390
00:46:40,743 --> 00:46:40,993
overtime to cover that unpaid

1391
00:46:42,743 --> 00:46:42,993
absence on a Monday so they will

1392
00:46:45,209 --> 00:46:45,459
flex that time from one day to

1393
00:46:47,343 --> 00:46:47,593
cover the unpaid absence on the

1394
00:46:48,043 --> 00:46:48,293
other day to

1395
00:46:50,709 --> 00:46:50,959
make sure that they hit a base

1396
00:46:52,976 --> 00:46:53,226
number of80 hours in a pay

1397
00:46:55,176 --> 00:46:55,426
period so that they don't get

1398
00:46:55,876 --> 00:46:56,126
short paid on their paycheck

1399
00:47:01,309 --> 00:47:01,559
Thank you, I appreciate you

1400
00:47:02,643 --> 00:47:02,893
clarifying that so

1401
00:47:05,343 --> 00:47:05,593
when I looked at the

1402
00:47:08,809 --> 00:47:09,059
recommendations and again if you

1403
00:47:10,476 --> 00:47:10,726
could maybe give us an example

1404
00:47:12,776 --> 00:47:13,026
how are you going to how how is

1405
00:47:15,009 --> 00:47:15,259
the system going to catch that

1406
00:47:17,276 --> 00:47:17,526
in real time by the coding it

1407
00:47:19,243 --> 00:47:19,493
seemed like that was what the

1408
00:47:22,509 --> 00:47:22,759
suggestion might be if that's

1409
00:47:23,276 --> 00:47:23,526
the answer who's doing the

1410
00:47:25,543 --> 00:47:25,793
coding? I'm just trying to

1411
00:47:27,276 --> 00:47:27,526
understand how we're going to

1412
00:47:29,343 --> 00:47:29,593
catch this in real time rather

1413
00:47:31,343 --> 00:47:31,593
than later when we have to ask

1414
00:47:32,009 --> 00:47:32,259
for an audit.

1415
00:47:37,209 --> 00:47:37,459
absolutely that's a great

1416
00:47:39,209 --> 00:47:39,459
question so and to kind of

1417
00:47:42,509 --> 00:47:42,759
unpack that who does the coding

1418
00:47:43,209 --> 00:47:43,459
it's the correctional officers

1419
00:47:44,743 --> 00:47:44,993
so the correctional officers

1420
00:47:48,509 --> 00:47:48,759
will go into the Nevadamployee

1421
00:47:49,176 --> 00:47:49,426
action and timekeeping

1422
00:47:51,009 --> 00:47:51,259
systemstem we call it NEEs and

1423
00:47:52,543 --> 00:47:52,793
that's where they'll submit a

1424
00:47:53,276 --> 00:47:53,526
pay period so they'll do the

1425
00:47:56,509 --> 00:47:56,759
actual coding on a time sheet in

1426
00:47:58,776 --> 00:47:59,026
needs the second part of your

1427
00:48:00,743 --> 00:48:00,993
question regarding how do we

1428
00:48:01,443 --> 00:48:01,693
catch that how do we effect

1429
00:48:03,443 --> 00:48:03,693
changes and not look at this

1430
00:48:04,009 --> 00:48:04,259
after the fact and say

1431
00:48:08,509 --> 00:48:08,759
hey you did this wrong. I

1432
00:48:09,209 --> 00:48:09,459
want to speak to that by saying

1433
00:48:12,743 --> 00:48:12,993
one they were never prevented or

1434
00:48:14,976 --> 00:48:15,226
prohibited from that practice.

1435
00:48:17,176 --> 00:48:17,426
that was a common and accepted

1436
00:48:19,443 --> 00:48:19,693
practice and so that wasn't

1437
00:48:22,509 --> 00:48:22,759
really a concern and at the end

1438
00:48:24,976 --> 00:48:25,226
of the day the money the the

1439
00:48:28,509 --> 00:48:28,759
paycheck is right so if you miss

1440
00:48:30,476 --> 00:48:30,726
eight hours here but you work8

1441
00:48:31,476 --> 00:48:31,726
hours here the the paycheck

1442
00:48:33,409 --> 00:48:33,659
amount will be right and so it

1443
00:48:34,076 --> 00:48:34,326
wasn't really a concern

1444
00:48:37,243 --> 00:48:37,493
I would say the bigger concern

1445
00:48:39,043 --> 00:48:39,293
is that it's causing pay clerks

1446
00:48:40,976 --> 00:48:41,226
and supervisors reviewing time

1447
00:48:43,243 --> 00:48:43,493
sheets to have to do the math

1448
00:48:46,743 --> 00:48:46,993
and frequently the maths it

1449
00:48:47,409 --> 00:48:47,659
the of the flex time it doesn't

1450
00:48:48,076 --> 00:48:48,326
summate

1451
00:48:50,976 --> 00:48:51,226
and so they'll say I was out for

1452
00:48:52,743 --> 00:48:52,993
eight hours on Monday and then I

1453
00:48:54,709 --> 00:48:54,959
worked six hours of overtime on

1454
00:48:56,709 --> 00:48:56,959
Friday, right and they'll just

1455
00:48:58,543 --> 00:48:58,793
cancel that out and so that's

1456
00:49:00,509 --> 00:49:00,759
the bigger concern from my

1457
00:49:02,743 --> 00:49:02,993
perspective now moving forward

1458
00:49:06,509 --> 00:49:06,759
endoc is gonna create some I

1459
00:49:07,276 --> 00:49:07,526
guess you could call them pay

1460
00:49:10,976 --> 00:49:11,226
policies to restrict this

1461
00:49:13,276 --> 00:49:13,526
practice of flexing AWO time for

1462
00:49:15,243 --> 00:49:15,493
overtime and what they're going

1463
00:49:16,543 --> 00:49:16,793
to have the correctional

1464
00:49:17,409 --> 00:49:17,659
officers do is code the Aol

1465
00:49:20,976 --> 00:49:21,226
time on the day they're A wall

1466
00:49:22,976 --> 00:49:23,226
and then on the day that they

1467
00:49:25,009 --> 00:49:25,259
work overtime to code what's

1468
00:49:28,709 --> 00:49:28,959
called pRT paid regular time on

1469
00:49:30,743 --> 00:49:30,993
that day that way they don't

1470
00:49:32,976 --> 00:49:33,226
have to try and wash those hours

1471
00:49:34,976 --> 00:49:35,226
so the time will be it will be

1472
00:49:38,509 --> 00:49:38,759
right essentially I don't

1473
00:49:40,509 --> 00:49:40,759
think this practice of flexing

1474
00:49:42,776 --> 00:49:43,026
Aal time for overtime is gonna

1475
00:49:44,976 --> 00:49:45,226
go away. I don't have a problem

1476
00:49:46,743 --> 00:49:46,993
particularly with the practice

1477
00:49:47,409 --> 00:49:47,659
because it allows employees to

1478
00:49:48,076 --> 00:49:48,326
hit

1479
00:49:51,243 --> 00:49:51,493
the base80 hours and if they

1480
00:49:52,743 --> 00:49:52,993
didn't hit that base80 hours

1481
00:49:54,509 --> 00:49:54,759
you'd have to pay another

1482
00:49:56,743 --> 00:49:56,993
employee overtime and so I would

1483
00:49:58,509 --> 00:49:58,759
say that that's not my main

1484
00:50:00,743 --> 00:50:00,993
concern my bigger concern is the

1485
00:50:02,709 --> 00:50:02,959
transparency of it and making

1486
00:50:04,509 --> 00:50:04,759
sure that the the amounts

1487
00:50:07,276 --> 00:50:07,526
actually do flex or wash out so

1488
00:50:08,676 --> 00:50:08,926
that the employee's paycheck is

1489
00:50:09,376 --> 00:50:09,626
correct

1490
00:50:14,776 --> 00:50:15,026
thank you that that really

1491
00:50:16,776 --> 00:50:17,026
helped to have that kind of

1492
00:50:19,209 --> 00:50:19,459
explanation and detail and thank

1493
00:50:19,843 --> 00:50:20,093
you chairir that's it for me.

1494
00:50:26,509 --> 00:50:26,759
Thank you. Other questions from

1495
00:50:27,176 --> 00:50:27,426
our members afar

1496
00:50:28,976 --> 00:50:29,226
meaning on zoom

1497
00:50:32,509 --> 00:50:32,759
right I don't see any I have a

1498
00:50:33,309 --> 00:50:33,559
couple of questions as well and

1499
00:50:35,043 --> 00:50:35,293
I'll I'll pick up where assembly

1500
00:50:35,709 --> 00:50:35,959
memberhansen left off

1501
00:50:39,509 --> 00:50:39,759
I think Mr Stevenson you were

1502
00:50:41,009 --> 00:50:41,259
giving a really good example of

1503
00:50:43,009 --> 00:50:43,259
like an employee who is supposed

1504
00:50:44,543 --> 00:50:44,793
to work an eight hour shift on

1505
00:50:45,276 --> 00:50:45,526
Monday and doesn't work that

1506
00:50:46,976 --> 00:50:47,226
shift and so they pick up

1507
00:50:48,676 --> 00:50:48,926
another shift later and

1508
00:50:53,476 --> 00:50:53,726
I want to understand is it

1509
00:50:54,043 --> 00:50:54,293
supposed to be

1510
00:50:59,076 --> 00:50:59,326
if if my normal shift is say an

1511
00:51:02,509 --> 00:51:02,759
eight hour shift from noon to8

1512
00:51:06,509 --> 00:51:06,759
p.m. on Monday and instead I go

1513
00:51:08,509 --> 00:51:08,759
in on Friday and work from noon

1514
00:51:10,776 --> 00:51:11,026
to8 p.m. Am I supposed to get

1515
00:51:11,409 --> 00:51:11,659
paid the exact same amount

1516
00:51:16,976 --> 00:51:17,226
that's a great question so what

1517
00:51:18,743 --> 00:51:18,993
you're saying is you're working

1518
00:51:20,743 --> 00:51:20,993
overtime on Friday shouldn't you

1519
00:51:22,743 --> 00:51:22,993
get time and a half and the

1520
00:51:25,243 --> 00:51:25,493
answer is no and the reason you

1521
00:51:27,209 --> 00:51:27,459
wouldn't get that that time and

1522
00:51:29,243 --> 00:51:29,493
a half on Friday is because you

1523
00:51:32,743 --> 00:51:32,993
didn't hit your base80 hours of

1524
00:51:35,009 --> 00:51:35,259
regular time and so you have to

1525
00:51:37,276 --> 00:51:37,526
flex it or wash it with those

1526
00:51:40,776 --> 00:51:41,026
hours missed on the Monday and

1527
00:51:42,776 --> 00:51:43,026
that is correct that is what we

1528
00:51:43,443 --> 00:51:43,693
want to see what we don't want

1529
00:51:44,143 --> 00:51:44,393
to see is

1530
00:51:46,943 --> 00:51:47,193
someone calling out AalL on that

1531
00:51:49,476 --> 00:51:49,726
Monday working8 hours on a shift

1532
00:51:51,009 --> 00:51:51,259
that they aren't scheduled for

1533
00:51:51,676 --> 00:51:51,926
and getting the time and a half

1534
00:51:52,343 --> 00:51:52,593
right

1535
00:51:56,509 --> 00:51:56,759
is that what we're seeing is

1536
00:51:57,243 --> 00:51:57,493
that they're getting the time

1537
00:51:58,676 --> 00:51:58,926
and a half rate on that

1538
00:52:01,109 --> 00:52:01,359
second shift that should be paid

1539
00:52:01,776 --> 00:52:02,026
at the base rate

1540
00:52:05,309 --> 00:52:05,559
there were a few examples of

1541
00:52:07,276 --> 00:52:07,526
that would say that's not

1542
00:52:10,776 --> 00:52:11,026
overall the general issue

1543
00:52:13,043 --> 00:52:13,293
with this finding we did find

1544
00:52:15,276 --> 00:52:15,526
numerous examples where the math

1545
00:52:18,509 --> 00:52:18,759
didn't add up so they missed

1546
00:52:19,276 --> 00:52:19,526
eight hours or a better example

1547
00:52:22,509 --> 00:52:22,759
would be they missed12 hours

1548
00:52:23,243 --> 00:52:23,493
because that's a shift they came

1549
00:52:24,543 --> 00:52:24,793
in and worked an eightho

1550
00:52:27,009 --> 00:52:27,259
overtime shift and they washed

1551
00:52:29,043 --> 00:52:29,293
both of those and so obviously

1552
00:52:30,509 --> 00:52:30,759
the eight hours doesn't wash

1553
00:52:32,876 --> 00:52:33,126
the12 hour shift that wasn't

1554
00:52:33,443 --> 00:52:33,693
really super common.

1555
00:52:37,243 --> 00:52:37,493
I would say the bigger issue

1556
00:52:40,509 --> 00:52:40,759
is that there aren't really

1557
00:52:42,776 --> 00:52:43,026
controls in place to make sure

1558
00:52:45,009 --> 00:52:45,259
that the time was actually

1559
00:52:47,009 --> 00:52:47,259
worked and then there's bigger

1560
00:52:48,776 --> 00:52:49,026
concerns over when somebody

1561
00:52:50,743 --> 00:52:50,993
calls out Awal they have to

1562
00:52:53,243 --> 00:52:53,493
backfill that position at time

1563
00:52:55,309 --> 00:52:55,559
and a half and so that that that

1564
00:52:57,309 --> 00:52:57,559
could be costly to the state now

1565
00:52:59,076 --> 00:52:59,326
you could argue that when the

1566
00:53:00,776 --> 00:53:01,026
officer comes in and works

1567
00:53:02,843 --> 00:53:03,093
overtime later in the week on a

1568
00:53:03,509 --> 00:53:03,759
shift that

1569
00:53:05,076 --> 00:53:05,326
they would be backfilling

1570
00:53:07,276 --> 00:53:07,526
anyways then it kind of washes

1571
00:53:10,809 --> 00:53:11,059
and and and so it them being so

1572
00:53:12,509 --> 00:53:12,759
understaffed at the moment that

1573
00:53:14,543 --> 00:53:14,793
isn't a concern but if they were

1574
00:53:16,543 --> 00:53:16,793
fully staffed that would be a

1575
00:53:17,309 --> 00:53:17,559
bigger concern because now

1576
00:53:18,676 --> 00:53:18,926
you're paying time and a half to

1577
00:53:19,376 --> 00:53:19,626
backfill a

1578
00:53:25,609 --> 00:53:25,859
OK I I think I'm following

1579
00:53:30,976 --> 00:53:31,226
that

1580
00:53:34,776 --> 00:53:35,026
basically I think what you're

1581
00:53:36,976 --> 00:53:37,226
saying is like if two employees

1582
00:53:39,176 --> 00:53:39,426
basically switched shifts. I was

1583
00:53:39,876 --> 00:53:40,126
supposed to work Monday

1584
00:53:44,509 --> 00:53:44,759
senatorwynn was supposed to work

1585
00:53:45,209 --> 00:53:45,459
Friday.stead Senatorwynn works

1586
00:53:45,876 --> 00:53:46,126
Monday, I work Friday.

1587
00:53:48,976 --> 00:53:49,226
but then both are getting paid

1588
00:53:51,209 --> 00:53:51,459
overtime for those shifts

1589
00:53:52,676 --> 00:53:52,926
because they're backfilling them

1590
00:53:55,476 --> 00:53:55,726
Am I understanding that right

1591
00:54:02,476 --> 00:54:02,726
if let's say that you did not

1592
00:54:04,976 --> 00:54:05,226
hit your eightyba regular hours

1593
00:54:06,809 --> 00:54:07,059
let's say you were

1594
00:54:08,743 --> 00:54:08,993
scheduled58hour shifts for two

1595
00:54:11,176 --> 00:54:11,426
weeks in a pay period and you

1596
00:54:11,809 --> 00:54:12,059
guys just swapped shifts

1597
00:54:14,943 --> 00:54:15,193
it'll all be fine it would all

1598
00:54:17,109 --> 00:54:17,359
the math would even out that

1599
00:54:17,776 --> 00:54:18,026
wouldn't be a concern

1600
00:54:21,009 --> 00:54:21,259
and they frequently do that they

1601
00:54:24,476 --> 00:54:24,726
have a procedure for for shifts

1602
00:54:25,143 --> 00:54:25,393
swapping so that wouldn't

1603
00:54:27,143 --> 00:54:27,393
be a concern what we're finding

1604
00:54:28,976 --> 00:54:29,226
in this awal issue particularly

1605
00:54:30,743 --> 00:54:30,993
maybe I could speak a little bit

1606
00:54:32,743 --> 00:54:32,993
more to why it's happening. So

1607
00:54:35,209 --> 00:54:35,459
the reason why it's happening is

1608
00:54:37,176 --> 00:54:37,426
correctional officers will use

1609
00:54:38,809 --> 00:54:39,059
up their leave balances

1610
00:54:41,209 --> 00:54:41,459
and then they'll get to a point

1611
00:54:42,976 --> 00:54:43,226
where they need to call out sick

1612
00:54:45,176 --> 00:54:45,426
on say a Monday but they don't

1613
00:54:45,876 --> 00:54:46,126
have any leave balance

1614
00:54:49,209 --> 00:54:49,459
and so really they're only

1615
00:54:51,209 --> 00:54:51,459
option is to come in and work an

1616
00:54:53,209 --> 00:54:53,459
extra say8 hours later in the

1617
00:54:56,743 --> 00:54:56,993
week to cover that missed time

1618
00:54:58,509 --> 00:54:58,759
because if they don't cover that

1619
00:54:59,209 --> 00:54:59,459
missed time they're actually

1620
00:55:00,976 --> 00:55:01,226
going to get paid for less

1621
00:55:02,676 --> 00:55:02,926
than80 hours, less than a normal

1622
00:55:06,976 --> 00:55:07,226
paycheck and and so that's

1623
00:55:10,476 --> 00:55:10,726
kind of why this is happening if

1624
00:55:12,943 --> 00:55:13,193
you trade shifts it washes

1625
00:55:16,476 --> 00:55:16,726
that's not a concern and

1626
00:55:17,409 --> 00:55:17,659
again this would be a bigger

1627
00:55:19,209 --> 00:55:19,459
concern if they were fully

1628
00:55:22,509 --> 00:55:22,759
staffed and they had someone to

1629
00:55:24,743 --> 00:55:24,993
cover every shift and then

1630
00:55:26,509 --> 00:55:26,759
somebody calls out and picks up

1631
00:55:28,509 --> 00:55:28,759
a different shift now now

1632
00:55:29,109 --> 00:55:29,359
they're working a shift that

1633
00:55:30,509 --> 00:55:30,759
doesn't need to be worked and

1634
00:55:31,109 --> 00:55:31,359
you would have to have someone

1635
00:55:32,676 --> 00:55:32,926
backfill that first shift at

1636
00:55:33,343 --> 00:55:33,593
time and a half

1637
00:55:35,176 --> 00:55:35,426
in that case you'd be paying

1638
00:55:38,509 --> 00:55:38,759
a50% premium to cover that AalL

1639
00:55:40,509 --> 00:55:40,759
time as it stands right now

1640
00:55:41,143 --> 00:55:41,393
pretty much no matter what

1641
00:55:43,143 --> 00:55:43,393
anyone who picks up a shift

1642
00:55:45,209 --> 00:55:45,459
outside of the the regular shift

1643
00:55:47,409 --> 00:55:47,659
schedules is going to be working

1644
00:55:49,143 --> 00:55:49,393
overtime because they're so

1645
00:55:49,676 --> 00:55:49,926
understaffed

1646
00:55:56,509 --> 00:55:56,759
think I understand. I have a

1647
00:55:58,509 --> 00:55:58,759
related question I'm looking

1648
00:56:00,743 --> 00:56:00,993
at that chart that you pointed

1649
00:56:01,409 --> 00:56:01,659
out to us on page fifte with

1650
00:56:03,343 --> 00:56:03,593
I don't know what is this

1651
00:56:07,476 --> 00:56:07,726
1012 different codes for holiday

1652
00:56:08,143 --> 00:56:08,393
pay

1653
00:56:09,176 --> 00:56:09,426
and

1654
00:56:15,076 --> 00:56:15,326
I'm wondering if

1655
00:56:20,543 --> 00:56:20,793
part of the problem is also that

1656
00:56:22,776 --> 00:56:23,026
we're not trading shifts one for

1657
00:56:24,776 --> 00:56:25,026
one because that Monday shift

1658
00:56:27,009 --> 00:56:27,259
that somebody is calling out is

1659
00:56:28,676 --> 00:56:28,926
not paid at the same rate as

1660
00:56:33,309 --> 00:56:33,559
the Saturday shift or the the

1661
00:56:35,076 --> 00:56:35,326
next Monday is a holiday and

1662
00:56:36,809 --> 00:56:37,059
that's still in their pay period

1663
00:56:37,543 --> 00:56:37,793
and they're trying to make it up

1664
00:56:39,276 --> 00:56:39,526
so can you speak a little bit to

1665
00:56:41,109 --> 00:56:41,359
whether different

1666
00:56:45,076 --> 00:56:45,326
shifts get paid at different

1667
00:56:46,776 --> 00:56:47,026
rates not accounting for

1668
00:56:49,243 --> 00:56:49,493
overtime but just because of the

1669
00:56:50,676 --> 00:56:50,926
the timing of the shift for the

1670
00:56:51,343 --> 00:56:51,593
holidays

1671
00:56:55,309 --> 00:56:55,559
Certainly that and that's a

1672
00:56:56,909 --> 00:56:57,159
really good question because

1673
00:56:57,476 --> 00:56:57,726
there's some

1674
00:57:00,743 --> 00:57:00,993
some nuance there that I think

1675
00:57:02,509 --> 00:57:02,759
that you're pointing out. so

1676
00:57:03,343 --> 00:57:03,593
let's say that you're a night

1677
00:57:04,009 --> 00:57:04,259
shift employee

1678
00:57:07,109 --> 00:57:07,359
you get what's called page shift

1679
00:57:07,776 --> 00:57:08,026
differential

1680
00:57:10,776 --> 00:57:11,026
and so you get a5% premium for

1681
00:57:12,743 --> 00:57:12,993
working that night shift. Now

1682
00:57:14,809 --> 00:57:15,059
the interesting thing about this

1683
00:57:15,443 --> 00:57:15,693
collective bargaining agreement

1684
00:57:18,509 --> 00:57:18,759
is that if someone who normally

1685
00:57:19,143 --> 00:57:19,393
works day shift

1686
00:57:22,476 --> 00:57:22,726
fills in for you on that

1687
00:57:24,509 --> 00:57:24,759
night shift they actually don't

1688
00:57:25,176 --> 00:57:25,426
get shift differential pay

1689
00:57:28,709 --> 00:57:28,959
so they actually get paid

1690
00:57:29,276 --> 00:57:29,526
less

1691
00:57:32,509 --> 00:57:32,759
than somebody that's on night

1692
00:57:33,309 --> 00:57:33,559
shift in terms of page shift

1693
00:57:33,876 --> 00:57:34,126
differential

1694
00:57:37,276 --> 00:57:37,526
now the the opposite of that is

1695
00:57:38,976 --> 00:57:39,226
also true. let's say that you're

1696
00:57:40,743 --> 00:57:40,993
a night shift employee and you

1697
00:57:42,676 --> 00:57:42,926
come in and you fill a day

1698
00:57:44,743 --> 00:57:44,993
shift.live it or not you get

1699
00:57:47,309 --> 00:57:47,559
that5% premium for working that

1700
00:57:49,309 --> 00:57:49,559
day shift even though it's not

1701
00:57:52,509 --> 00:57:52,759
during the undesirable hours

1702
00:57:53,543 --> 00:57:53,793
that would typically be awarded

1703
00:57:54,709 --> 00:57:54,959
that5% pay premium

1704
00:57:57,209 --> 00:57:57,459
and and just for your

1705
00:57:59,209 --> 00:57:59,459
edification normal state

1706
00:58:00,943 --> 00:58:01,193
employee classified state

1707
00:58:02,776 --> 00:58:03,026
employees they get paid shift

1708
00:58:06,743 --> 00:58:06,993
differential between6 pm. and7

1709
00:58:08,743 --> 00:58:08,993
a.m. if they work between those

1710
00:58:11,276 --> 00:58:11,526
hours and so this CBA is really

1711
00:58:13,443 --> 00:58:13,693
unique. Additionally the askkme

1712
00:58:15,243 --> 00:58:15,493
CBA's to the best of my

1713
00:58:17,209 --> 00:58:17,459
knowledge most of them if not

1714
00:58:19,243 --> 00:58:19,493
all of them pay shift

1715
00:58:21,243 --> 00:58:21,493
differential between6 p.m. and7

1716
00:58:24,509 --> 00:58:24,759
a.m. so that really makes this

1717
00:58:25,109 --> 00:58:25,359
FOP

1718
00:58:27,009 --> 00:58:27,259
CBA that's applicable to

1719
00:58:28,976 --> 00:58:29,226
correctional officers unique.

1720
00:58:31,176 --> 00:58:31,426
They also get shift differential

1721
00:58:32,676 --> 00:58:32,926
paid when they're on

1722
00:58:33,643 --> 00:58:33,893
say annual leave

1723
00:58:37,309 --> 00:58:37,559
which is which is interesting

1724
00:58:40,509 --> 00:58:40,759
or sick leave or on holiday

1725
00:58:41,476 --> 00:58:41,726
time if their normal shift

1726
00:58:42,043 --> 00:58:42,293
qualifies for it

1727
00:58:46,743 --> 00:58:46,993
back to this holiday time

1728
00:58:47,509 --> 00:58:47,759
issue that you pointed out on

1729
00:58:50,776 --> 00:58:51,026
page 15 in this exhibit there

1730
00:58:54,576 --> 00:58:54,826
are premium pays for working on

1731
00:58:56,509 --> 00:58:56,759
a holiday. So certainly if

1732
00:58:57,276 --> 00:58:57,526
you're one of the employees that

1733
00:58:59,576 --> 00:58:59,826
works on the holiday you are

1734
00:59:00,843 --> 00:59:01,093
going to get premium pay

1735
00:59:04,509 --> 00:59:04,759
but I would argue that it

1736
00:59:05,243 --> 00:59:05,493
doesn't matter which employee

1737
00:59:07,009 --> 00:59:07,259
does it you're you're gonna get

1738
00:59:10,776 --> 00:59:11,026
that premium pay regardless just

1739
00:59:11,476 --> 00:59:11,726
for showing up to work on the

1740
00:59:12,143 --> 00:59:12,393
holiday.

1741
00:59:16,976 --> 00:59:17,226
OK. I think I think that makes

1742
00:59:20,743 --> 00:59:20,993
sense I just have one other

1743
00:59:22,509 --> 00:59:22,759
kind of set of questions if you

1744
00:59:24,809 --> 00:59:25,059
will indulge me kind of at

1745
00:59:28,509 --> 00:59:28,759
the very beginning of this

1746
00:59:31,176 --> 00:59:31,426
document I'm on page 4 of52

1747
00:59:34,743 --> 00:59:34,993
with the time sheets and

1748
00:59:35,309 --> 00:59:35,559
adjustments

1749
00:59:38,976 --> 00:59:39,226
if I'm reading this correctly

1750
00:59:41,109 --> 00:59:41,359
you analyzed roughly11,000

1751
00:59:45,243 --> 00:59:45,493
time sheets and there were

1752
00:59:46,676 --> 00:59:46,926
errors in roughly

1753
00:59:50,509 --> 00:59:50,759
5000 of them so that's just

1754
00:59:52,976 --> 00:59:53,226
under50% am I missing something?

1755
00:59:58,743 --> 00:59:58,993
clarification there were about

1756
01:00:00,709 --> 01:00:00,959
that many there were that

1757
01:00:03,243 --> 01:00:03,493
many errors actually the errors

1758
01:00:04,776 --> 01:00:05,026
were only prevalent in about a

1759
01:00:06,743 --> 01:00:06,993
quarter of the time sheets so

1760
01:00:09,243 --> 01:00:09,493
it's 2600 times sheets had

1761
01:00:11,276 --> 01:00:11,526
errors so in fact there were

1762
01:00:12,676 --> 01:00:12,926
about two errors

1763
01:00:15,476 --> 01:00:15,726
per incorrect times sheet so

1764
01:00:17,009 --> 01:00:17,259
it's about a quarter of all time

1765
01:00:18,976 --> 01:00:19,226
sheets had to be submitted for

1766
01:00:20,643 --> 01:00:20,893
pay adjustments because they had

1767
01:00:21,309 --> 01:00:21,559
errors

1768
01:00:21,643 --> 01:00:21,893
and

1769
01:00:25,243 --> 01:00:25,493
I I really don't know if you can

1770
01:00:25,943 --> 01:00:26,193
answer this question or not but

1771
01:00:31,309 --> 01:00:31,559
is that a normal error rate for

1772
01:00:31,943 --> 01:00:32,193
state employees

1773
01:00:35,243 --> 01:00:35,493
mean

1774
01:00:40,509 --> 01:00:40,759
so I haven't audited all state

1775
01:00:42,743 --> 01:00:42,993
employees but I'm just gonna say

1776
01:00:43,443 --> 01:00:43,693
using my common sense and

1777
01:00:44,009 --> 01:00:44,259
judgment

1778
01:00:47,309 --> 01:00:47,559
that and 13 years of working for

1779
01:00:49,243 --> 01:00:49,493
the state as an auditor that

1780
01:00:52,509 --> 01:00:52,759
this is not common at all this

1781
01:00:55,276 --> 01:00:55,526
this is extremely high but I

1782
01:00:57,243 --> 01:00:57,493
don't have the data to support

1783
01:01:00,509 --> 01:01:00,759
that other than my own

1784
01:01:01,109 --> 01:01:01,359
experience reviewing employee

1785
01:01:01,776 --> 01:01:02,026
times sheets

1786
01:01:06,709 --> 01:01:06,959
think that is still helpful to

1787
01:01:07,409 --> 01:01:07,659
understand and

1788
01:01:09,176 --> 01:01:09,426
and I'm sure this is

1789
01:01:13,076 --> 01:01:13,326
in the document but do you have

1790
01:01:16,976 --> 01:01:17,226
and I apologize it didn't jump

1791
01:01:18,476 --> 01:01:18,726
out at me. Do you have an

1792
01:01:19,009 --> 01:01:19,259
estimated amount of

1793
01:01:20,909 --> 01:01:21,159
money that these errors cost us

1794
01:01:24,976 --> 01:01:25,226
so that's the million dollar

1795
01:01:26,976 --> 01:01:27,226
question. the short answer is

1796
01:01:30,743 --> 01:01:30,993
no. the long answer is we are

1797
01:01:32,509 --> 01:01:32,759
working on getting that amount.

1798
01:01:34,976 --> 01:01:35,226
So right now our limitation is

1799
01:01:37,243 --> 01:01:37,493
the corenV system that we're

1800
01:01:39,243 --> 01:01:39,493
rolling out we are trying to

1801
01:01:42,509 --> 01:01:42,759
create a custom like an ad hoc

1802
01:01:44,776 --> 01:01:45,026
report if you will to identify

1803
01:01:47,043 --> 01:01:47,293
the net effect of these pay

1804
01:01:48,743 --> 01:01:48,993
adjustments that is something

1805
01:01:50,509 --> 01:01:50,759
that everybody wants it's

1806
01:01:51,376 --> 01:01:51,626
something that we worked on

1807
01:01:51,909 --> 01:01:52,159
before we issued this

1808
01:01:53,409 --> 01:01:53,659
audit

1809
01:01:55,209 --> 01:01:55,459
it's it's the million dollar

1810
01:01:58,676 --> 01:01:58,926
question we do not have that

1811
01:01:59,309 --> 01:01:59,559
information unfortunately

1812
01:02:05,076 --> 01:02:05,326
I I understand. I'm sorry I do

1813
01:02:05,776 --> 01:02:06,026
have one more question

1814
01:02:12,776 --> 01:02:13,026
is your audit also able to track

1815
01:02:13,476 --> 01:02:13,726
time sheets across

1816
01:02:17,009 --> 01:02:17,259
employees like are you able to

1817
01:02:19,009 --> 01:02:19,259
identify particular employees

1818
01:02:21,009 --> 01:02:21,259
who happen to have particularly

1819
01:02:22,743 --> 01:02:22,993
high error rates on their

1820
01:02:23,343 --> 01:02:23,593
paycheet on their time sheets

1821
01:02:28,809 --> 01:02:29,059
yes yes we do and yes we did

1822
01:02:32,776 --> 01:02:33,026
so there were a couple of

1823
01:02:34,509 --> 01:02:34,759
employees whose names I won't

1824
01:02:38,743 --> 01:02:38,993
mention who habitually

1825
01:02:39,576 --> 01:02:39,826
submitted errant times sheets

1826
01:02:43,243 --> 01:02:43,493
and so what we did when we

1827
01:02:46,743 --> 01:02:46,993
noticed a pattern is when we

1828
01:02:48,476 --> 01:02:48,726
referred those to the department

1829
01:02:50,509 --> 01:02:50,759
oforrection we we referred all

1830
01:02:51,176 --> 01:02:51,426
time sheets that needed a pay

1831
01:02:52,543 --> 01:02:52,793
adjustment but there were

1832
01:02:54,509 --> 01:02:54,759
certain time sheets where we

1833
01:02:56,509 --> 01:02:56,759
noticed the same name over

1834
01:02:59,243 --> 01:02:59,493
multiple pay periods so we would

1835
01:03:01,009 --> 01:03:01,259
then tell Department

1836
01:03:03,243 --> 01:03:03,493
oforrections about those

1837
01:03:05,276 --> 01:03:05,526
employees what we observed and

1838
01:03:06,743 --> 01:03:06,993
it was on the department

1839
01:03:09,243 --> 01:03:09,493
oforrections to then discipline

1840
01:03:09,909 --> 01:03:10,159
that employee. Now if you're

1841
01:03:10,576 --> 01:03:10,826
wondering

1842
01:03:14,509 --> 01:03:14,759
how that process happened we

1843
01:03:16,743 --> 01:03:16,993
have and we still do have but we

1844
01:03:18,743 --> 01:03:18,993
instituted a biweekly meeting

1845
01:03:21,176 --> 01:03:21,426
that included me, department

1846
01:03:24,509 --> 01:03:24,759
of Corrections payroll team

1847
01:03:25,243 --> 01:03:25,493
and then the division of

1848
01:03:28,476 --> 01:03:28,726
humansource Man including

1849
01:03:29,243 --> 01:03:29,493
their leadership and staff

1850
01:03:31,243 --> 01:03:31,493
working on this and every two

1851
01:03:34,509 --> 01:03:34,759
weeks we discuss the most

1852
01:03:36,976 --> 01:03:37,226
prevalent issues impacting

1853
01:03:38,743 --> 01:03:38,993
endoc times sheets. Now

1854
01:03:39,643 --> 01:03:39,893
something I didn't mention in my

1855
01:03:40,309 --> 01:03:40,559
presentation is

1856
01:03:42,876 --> 01:03:43,126
that we are still reviewing

1857
01:03:46,709 --> 01:03:46,959
certain time sheets at

1858
01:03:48,776 --> 01:03:49,026
department oforrections and

1859
01:03:50,509 --> 01:03:50,759
additionally we are looking at

1860
01:03:51,276 --> 01:03:51,526
time sheets not just at high

1861
01:03:53,276 --> 01:03:53,526
desert staterison but at

1862
01:03:54,643 --> 01:03:54,893
northern Nevada Correctional

1863
01:03:55,309 --> 01:03:55,559
Center

1864
01:03:57,676 --> 01:03:57,926
Elie State Prison and Lovelock

1865
01:03:58,343 --> 01:03:58,593
Correctional Center.

1866
01:04:03,043 --> 01:04:03,293
and so this work is sort of

1867
01:04:06,509 --> 01:04:06,759
ongoing we did report on it

1868
01:04:08,509 --> 01:04:08,759
and we set a cutoff date to make

1869
01:04:09,243 --> 01:04:09,493
it to our audit committee but

1870
01:04:11,376 --> 01:04:11,626
we're still actually kind of

1871
01:04:15,043 --> 01:04:15,293
kneede in endoc times sheets

1872
01:04:16,743 --> 01:04:16,993
and that's at the request of the

1873
01:04:18,509 --> 01:04:18,759
governor because we want we want

1874
01:04:21,009 --> 01:04:21,259
to fix this problem and we want

1875
01:04:23,243 --> 01:04:23,493
to bring some accountability

1876
01:04:24,809 --> 01:04:25,059
to this time sheet process and

1877
01:04:25,443 --> 01:04:25,693
we don't want to just look at

1878
01:04:27,343 --> 01:04:27,593
high desert we want to look at

1879
01:04:28,743 --> 01:04:28,993
the other institutions as well

1880
01:04:33,276 --> 01:04:33,526
thank you so much. That was

1881
01:04:34,743 --> 01:04:34,993
exactly what I was asking. so I

1882
01:04:36,509 --> 01:04:36,759
very very much appreciate you

1883
01:04:38,743 --> 01:04:38,993
diving into that. I think we

1884
01:04:40,476 --> 01:04:40,726
do have one more clarification

1885
01:04:41,409 --> 01:04:41,659
from assembly member Hanson up

1886
01:04:42,076 --> 01:04:42,326
north. go ahead.

1887
01:04:44,976 --> 01:04:45,226
thank you chair for another

1888
01:04:47,209 --> 01:04:47,459
chance. I know that a lot of

1889
01:04:49,176 --> 01:04:49,426
us were wondering what the pay

1890
01:04:51,443 --> 01:04:51,693
is and I I didn't expect you to

1891
01:04:53,243 --> 01:04:53,493
have that available but I I did

1892
01:04:56,976 --> 01:04:57,226
do a google search and so Nevada

1893
01:04:58,976 --> 01:04:59,226
department of corrections

1894
01:05:02,509 --> 01:05:02,759
officers are in the top5 in the

1895
01:05:04,509 --> 01:05:04,759
nation I think what and I'm

1896
01:05:05,243 --> 01:05:05,493
really just saying this just for

1897
01:05:07,176 --> 01:05:07,426
the education of all of us

1898
01:05:12,543 --> 01:05:12,793
that we're there with it'sor

1899
01:05:14,509 --> 01:05:14,759
Rhode Island, massachusetts, New

1900
01:05:16,509 --> 01:05:16,759
Jersey and then Illinois and

1901
01:05:18,743 --> 01:05:18,993
Nevada are tied for fifth place

1902
01:05:21,243 --> 01:05:21,493
and but I think what I have a

1903
01:05:22,743 --> 01:05:22,993
prison in my district

1904
01:05:24,776 --> 01:05:25,026
Lovelorison with a lot more

1905
01:05:26,743 --> 01:05:26,993
staffing needs but a different

1906
01:05:28,743 --> 01:05:28,993
population granted and and a

1907
01:05:30,509 --> 01:05:30,759
commute that can be an hour and

1908
01:05:31,176 --> 01:05:31,426
a half from the Renosparks area

1909
01:05:35,043 --> 01:05:35,293
so there are so many factors I

1910
01:05:36,476 --> 01:05:36,726
think that are going into this

1911
01:05:37,276 --> 01:05:37,526
and I'm glad that we're really

1912
01:05:39,009 --> 01:05:39,259
looking into and and dialing in

1913
01:05:40,743 --> 01:05:40,993
on high desert, but I think

1914
01:05:43,009 --> 01:05:43,259
something that's really

1915
01:05:45,076 --> 01:05:45,326
bothersome when we're thinking

1916
01:05:47,243 --> 01:05:47,493
about ok are we paying a good

1917
01:05:49,176 --> 01:05:49,426
wage to these correction

1918
01:05:49,709 --> 01:05:49,959
officers

1919
01:05:52,743 --> 01:05:52,993
but what what's the disconnect

1920
01:05:56,509 --> 01:05:56,759
and the disconnect is 25% and

1921
01:05:58,776 --> 01:05:59,026
then as of July1st it'll be30%

1922
01:06:00,809 --> 01:06:01,059
of that officer's pay goes into

1923
01:06:01,476 --> 01:06:01,726
purrs.

1924
01:06:05,209 --> 01:06:05,459
with45% of those dollars going

1925
01:06:07,243 --> 01:06:07,493
to pay past debt on that

1926
01:06:12,509 --> 01:06:12,759
unfunded mandate for the system.

1927
01:06:13,276 --> 01:06:13,526
I mean I'm sorry the yeah the

1928
01:06:14,976 --> 01:06:15,226
enormous unfunded liability so

1929
01:06:18,743 --> 01:06:18,993
not that you can fix that that's

1930
01:06:20,509 --> 01:06:20,759
more a discussion I think that's

1931
01:06:22,743 --> 01:06:22,993
going to be ongoing because I

1932
01:06:24,743 --> 01:06:24,993
think we can rightfully say

1933
01:06:27,176 --> 01:06:27,426
we're paying them well but Purs

1934
01:06:28,976 --> 01:06:29,226
is now as of July firstt going

1935
01:06:30,709 --> 01:06:30,959
to be taking out or maybe it was

1936
01:06:33,209 --> 01:06:33,459
25 it happened yeah I'm sorry

1937
01:06:36,476 --> 01:06:36,726
July 1st of 2025 that jumped

1938
01:06:41,209 --> 01:06:41,459
from 25.75% to the purs 230%

1939
01:06:44,543 --> 01:06:44,793
so that means an officer in his

1940
01:06:45,243 --> 01:06:45,493
take home is he's having to give

1941
01:06:48,943 --> 01:06:49,193
he went from like1700 dollars a

1942
01:06:54,476 --> 01:06:54,726
month going to purs now 2000 no

1943
01:06:55,209 --> 01:06:55,459
granted that will be a benefit

1944
01:06:57,243 --> 01:06:57,493
that that they will see in the

1945
01:06:59,443 --> 01:06:59,693
future but living day to day and

1946
01:07:02,509 --> 01:07:02,759
the cost of living and such now

1947
01:07:03,176 --> 01:07:03,426
I it it is a real

1948
01:07:06,976 --> 01:07:07,226
is a real issue for them I'm

1949
01:07:08,709 --> 01:07:08,959
sure and and I have heard that

1950
01:07:10,976 --> 01:07:11,226
from some that are in the system

1951
01:07:12,976 --> 01:07:13,226
that have lamented some of this

1952
01:07:14,943 --> 01:07:15,193
so I'm just kind of putting that

1953
01:07:16,976 --> 01:07:17,226
out there that it is very

1954
01:07:18,976 --> 01:07:19,226
complex I think Nevada can say

1955
01:07:20,743 --> 01:07:20,993
well we are we have moved the

1956
01:07:24,509 --> 01:07:24,759
bar up in pay but dealing with

1957
01:07:26,743 --> 01:07:26,993
the the purrs contribution it

1958
01:07:27,443 --> 01:07:27,693
seems and maybe you've heard

1959
01:07:29,009 --> 01:07:29,259
that I don't know if it's an

1960
01:07:31,009 --> 01:07:31,259
auditor if you see that sort of

1961
01:07:33,376 --> 01:07:33,626
disconnect and is that a true it

1962
01:07:34,043 --> 01:07:34,293
can also be

1963
01:07:37,176 --> 01:07:37,426
an indicator of maybe why some

1964
01:07:38,976 --> 01:07:39,226
of these officers want to do

1965
01:07:40,976 --> 01:07:41,226
more overtime, want to do some

1966
01:07:43,209 --> 01:07:43,459
of this other stuff to augment

1967
01:07:44,876 --> 01:07:45,126
missing that30%

1968
01:07:48,776 --> 01:07:49,026
in their day to day living

1969
01:07:49,276 --> 01:07:49,526
because it's going to be put

1970
01:07:49,876 --> 01:07:50,126
away for the future.

1971
01:07:53,243 --> 01:07:53,493
so feel free to opine but you

1972
01:07:55,043 --> 01:07:55,293
don't necessarily have to I just

1973
01:07:55,776 --> 01:07:56,026
wanted to kind of put that out

1974
01:07:56,476 --> 01:07:56,726
there

1975
01:08:00,743 --> 01:08:00,993
sure well I wanted to add that I

1976
01:08:02,743 --> 01:08:02,993
just very quickly looked up the

1977
01:08:04,476 --> 01:08:04,726
correctional officer pay

1978
01:08:06,743 --> 01:08:06,993
range so correctional officers

1979
01:08:07,443 --> 01:08:07,693
now I'm not talking about

1980
01:08:10,476 --> 01:08:10,726
trainees or sergeants. I'm just

1981
01:08:11,209 --> 01:08:11,459
talking about the correctional

1982
01:08:13,009 --> 01:08:13,259
officer position they make

1983
01:08:16,776 --> 01:08:17,026
between68,000 dollars and100,000

1984
01:08:18,976 --> 01:08:19,226
dollars to68,000 dollars is a

1985
01:08:22,743 --> 01:08:22,993
step one according to the HR

1986
01:08:23,476 --> 01:08:23,726
source that I'm looking at right

1987
01:08:27,076 --> 01:08:27,326
now the100,000 dollars is at a

1988
01:08:27,743 --> 01:08:27,993
step0 meaning

1989
01:08:30,776 --> 01:08:31,026
you have 9 years of experience

1990
01:08:32,776 --> 01:08:33,026
unless you were brought in at an

1991
01:08:34,743 --> 01:08:34,993
accelerated pay rate and so

1992
01:08:35,343 --> 01:08:35,593
that's kind of the range you're

1993
01:08:38,476 --> 01:08:38,726
playing with in terms of base

1994
01:08:41,209 --> 01:08:41,459
salary to your point purge

1995
01:08:42,709 --> 01:08:42,959
is a killer it it

1996
01:08:46,476 --> 01:08:46,726
you know especially not that you

1997
01:08:47,209 --> 01:08:47,459
have to have a college degree

1998
01:08:48,709 --> 01:08:48,959
for correctional officers but

1999
01:08:50,743 --> 01:08:50,993
I'll say that young folks or

2000
01:08:53,043 --> 01:08:53,293
folks right out of college uh'd

2001
01:08:54,743 --> 01:08:54,993
get the sticker shock when you

2002
01:08:56,743 --> 01:08:56,993
find out for normal classified

2003
01:08:58,743 --> 01:08:58,993
employees it's about 20% it's I

2004
01:09:01,243 --> 01:09:01,493
believe it's19.25 comes straight

2005
01:09:03,243 --> 01:09:03,493
off the top of your paycheck and

2006
01:09:05,276 --> 01:09:05,526
that's a killer. Police and fire

2007
01:09:07,443 --> 01:09:07,693
to your point is much more

2008
01:09:10,509 --> 01:09:10,759
and so that hurts. Now you asked

2009
01:09:12,543 --> 01:09:12,793
about overtime compensation and

2010
01:09:13,209 --> 01:09:13,459
do they kind of rely on that

2011
01:09:15,209 --> 01:09:15,459
absolutely. I interviewed

2012
01:09:17,209 --> 01:09:17,459
correctional officers at high

2013
01:09:19,076 --> 01:09:19,326
desert and one of them

2014
01:09:23,109 --> 01:09:23,359
kind of his words were don't

2015
01:09:23,776 --> 01:09:24,026
take away our overtime

2016
01:09:28,476 --> 01:09:28,726
and they want that over time

2017
01:09:29,443 --> 01:09:29,693
I I don't think I'm speaking out

2018
01:09:31,243 --> 01:09:31,493
of turn saying that it's

2019
01:09:32,676 --> 01:09:32,926
certainly is

2020
01:09:35,243 --> 01:09:35,493
you know you got to remember

2021
01:09:36,976 --> 01:09:37,226
overtime isn't being taxed right

2022
01:09:39,176 --> 01:09:39,426
now it's not subject to purge

2023
01:09:39,843 --> 01:09:40,093
withholding

2024
01:09:44,776 --> 01:09:45,026
right and so that50% overtime

2025
01:09:46,976 --> 01:09:47,226
premium does a lot. it goes a

2026
01:09:48,743 --> 01:09:48,993
long way when you compare it to

2027
01:09:50,943 --> 01:09:51,193
the base salary that both gets

2028
01:09:54,976 --> 01:09:55,226
taxed and hits purs and and

2029
01:09:56,976 --> 01:09:57,226
so that over time I think it's

2030
01:09:58,776 --> 01:09:59,026
not a stretch to say it's very

2031
01:10:00,509 --> 01:10:00,759
important to the correctional

2032
01:10:02,509 --> 01:10:02,759
officers and it's a huge

2033
01:10:04,976 --> 01:10:05,226
component of their pay. I would

2034
01:10:05,643 --> 01:10:05,893
also like to note that while

2035
01:10:09,076 --> 01:10:09,326
the correctional officers get

2036
01:10:10,843 --> 01:10:11,093
a number

2037
01:10:14,743 --> 01:10:14,993
of other employment benefits

2038
01:10:17,176 --> 01:10:17,426
that most state employees do not

2039
01:10:20,509 --> 01:10:20,759
get for example they get a large

2040
01:10:22,709 --> 01:10:22,959
recruitment bonus if you're a

2041
01:10:23,376 --> 01:10:23,626
new correctional officer

2042
01:10:26,743 --> 01:10:26,993
they get uniform and tool

2043
01:10:28,476 --> 01:10:28,726
allowances now you may not

2044
01:10:29,276 --> 01:10:29,526
consider that pay but it's

2045
01:10:31,176 --> 01:10:31,426
pretty generous in the CBAs what

2046
01:10:33,243 --> 01:10:33,493
they get. they also get

2047
01:10:35,276 --> 01:10:35,526
personal leave days that other

2048
01:10:37,009 --> 01:10:37,259
employees like my staff do not

2049
01:10:38,976 --> 01:10:39,226
get. they also get union leave

2050
01:10:41,243 --> 01:10:41,493
days that we do not get and so

2051
01:10:43,009 --> 01:10:43,259
there are I would say there's a

2052
01:10:44,776 --> 01:10:45,026
number of ancillary benefits

2053
01:10:47,209 --> 01:10:47,459
that they do receive that I

2054
01:10:50,509 --> 01:10:50,759
would say normal classified

2055
01:10:52,509 --> 01:10:52,759
state employees do not receive

2056
01:10:53,143 --> 01:10:53,393
but to your point the

2057
01:10:56,709 --> 01:10:56,959
purs is is huge and and it

2058
01:10:58,709 --> 01:10:58,959
definitely I think hurts

2059
01:11:00,743 --> 01:11:00,993
specifically the newer

2060
01:11:01,543 --> 01:11:01,793
correctional officers

2061
01:11:04,976 --> 01:11:05,226
just because if you're making

2062
01:11:08,509 --> 01:11:08,759
the68,030% is going to it it

2063
01:11:10,509 --> 01:11:10,759
hurts a little bit more whereas

2064
01:11:11,176 --> 01:11:11,426
if you're capped out and you're

2065
01:11:13,209 --> 01:11:13,459
making that100,000 maybe you can

2066
01:11:15,243 --> 01:11:15,493
absorb that a little bit

2067
01:11:16,809 --> 01:11:17,059
easier than a brand new employee

2068
01:11:35,326 --> 01:11:35,576
right thank you so much we

2069
01:11:37,309 --> 01:11:37,559
really do appreciate all of

2070
01:11:39,009 --> 01:11:39,259
those clarifications and all of

2071
01:11:41,309 --> 01:11:41,559
your your your time with us

2072
01:11:42,943 --> 01:11:43,193
this morning unless there are

2073
01:11:43,643 --> 01:11:43,893
other questions

2074
01:11:46,776 --> 01:11:47,026
right. I think that concludes

2075
01:11:49,043 --> 01:11:49,293
this agenda item I'll close

2076
01:11:51,009 --> 01:11:51,259
our agenda item number5 and we

2077
01:11:51,676 --> 01:11:51,926
will go back to agenda item

2078
01:11:54,676 --> 01:11:54,926
number4 with our presentation on

2079
01:11:55,376 --> 01:11:55,626
reproductive access

2080
01:11:59,009 --> 01:11:59,259
in Nevada looks like we have

2081
01:11:59,709 --> 01:11:59,959
our presenters on zoom. please

2082
01:12:00,376 --> 01:12:00,626
go ahead when you're ready.

2083
01:12:12,859 --> 01:12:13,109
OK. good morning chair and

2084
01:12:14,509 --> 01:12:14,759
members of the committee thank

2085
01:12:16,509 --> 01:12:16,759
you so much for the opportunity

2086
01:12:18,509 --> 01:12:18,759
to be here today to talk about

2087
01:12:20,543 --> 01:12:20,793
the statewide economic justice

2088
01:12:22,809 --> 01:12:23,059
workgroup our policy pillars in

2089
01:12:24,509 --> 01:12:24,759
the intersections that

2090
01:12:25,543 --> 01:12:25,793
reproductive access has with

2091
01:12:28,509 --> 01:12:28,759
violence prevention. I'm Serena

2092
01:12:29,276 --> 01:12:29,526
Evans, I'm the policy director

2093
01:12:31,076 --> 01:12:31,326
for the Nevada coalition to end

2094
01:12:31,709 --> 01:12:31,959
domestic and sexual

2095
01:12:32,176 --> 01:12:32,426
violenceolence.

2096
01:12:36,776 --> 01:12:37,026
let's see there we go. OK. so

2097
01:12:38,976 --> 01:12:39,226
formed in 2021 are statewide

2098
01:12:40,509 --> 01:12:40,759
economic justice workroup brings

2099
01:12:41,243 --> 01:12:41,493
together what I like to call

2100
01:12:42,976 --> 01:12:43,226
nontraditional violence

2101
01:12:45,009 --> 01:12:45,259
prevention partners to address

2102
01:12:47,243 --> 01:12:47,493
systems and policies in Nevada

2103
01:12:49,009 --> 01:12:49,259
that increase economic

2104
01:12:50,976 --> 01:12:51,226
opportunities and access and so

2105
01:12:52,543 --> 01:12:52,793
when I mean nontraditional

2106
01:12:53,276 --> 01:12:53,526
violence prevention partners

2107
01:12:56,543 --> 01:12:56,793
we're not partnering with victim

2108
01:12:58,509 --> 01:12:58,759
advocates and sexual assault and

2109
01:13:00,776 --> 01:13:01,026
domestic violence programs we're

2110
01:13:02,543 --> 01:13:02,793
partnering with community

2111
01:13:03,076 --> 01:13:03,326
agencies working on

2112
01:13:07,009 --> 01:13:07,259
things such as housing access

2113
01:13:08,976 --> 01:13:09,226
access to healthcare and

2114
01:13:11,209 --> 01:13:11,459
reproductive access. and so this

2115
01:13:13,243 --> 01:13:13,493
work group was formed in

2116
01:13:15,209 --> 01:13:15,459
response to the research from

2117
01:13:18,743 --> 01:13:18,993
thecdc they have a stop sexual

2118
01:13:21,209 --> 01:13:21,459
violence technical package and

2119
01:13:22,509 --> 01:13:22,759
in that package they

2120
01:13:24,509 --> 01:13:24,759
specifically identified that

2121
01:13:25,276 --> 01:13:25,526
increasing economic

2122
01:13:27,276 --> 01:13:27,526
opportunities as a protective

2123
01:13:30,743 --> 01:13:30,993
factor can reduce the risk of

2124
01:13:32,843 --> 01:13:33,093
both violence victimization and

2125
01:13:33,509 --> 01:13:33,759
perpetration.

2126
01:13:36,476 --> 01:13:36,726
and so we convened this robust

2127
01:13:40,476 --> 01:13:40,726
workroup and it looks at

2128
01:13:42,509 --> 01:13:42,759
macrole prevention efforts

2129
01:13:44,509 --> 01:13:44,759
across Nevada so looking at

2130
01:13:46,776 --> 01:13:47,026
things like systemic barriers

2131
01:13:49,043 --> 01:13:49,293
policies and programs that can

2132
01:13:51,043 --> 01:13:51,293
expand access to opportunities

2133
01:13:53,509 --> 01:13:53,759
and resources for all Nevadans

2134
01:13:56,509 --> 01:13:56,759
and at its core this work group

2135
01:13:57,276 --> 01:13:57,526
made up of about I think I want

2136
01:14:00,776 --> 01:14:01,026
to say 28 unique organizations

2137
01:14:02,843 --> 01:14:03,093
recognizes that preventing

2138
01:14:03,409 --> 01:14:03,659
violence requires

2139
01:14:06,543 --> 01:14:06,793
us to look beyond the individual

2140
01:14:08,776 --> 01:14:09,026
behavior and really address the

2141
01:14:10,776 --> 01:14:11,026
systems and conditions that are

2142
01:14:11,443 --> 01:14:11,693
shaping people's daily lives

2143
01:14:17,309 --> 01:14:17,559
so the work group itself is

2144
01:14:19,309 --> 01:14:19,559
comprised of organizational

2145
01:14:21,009 --> 01:14:21,259
partners across the state in

2146
01:14:23,043 --> 01:14:23,293
every corner of the state and

2147
01:14:25,043 --> 01:14:25,293
operates on the core values of

2148
01:14:27,276 --> 01:14:27,526
uplifting lived experiences a

2149
01:14:29,243 --> 01:14:29,493
victim survivors and our

2150
01:14:32,509 --> 01:14:32,759
everyday Nevadans reducing

2151
01:14:33,076 --> 01:14:33,326
systemic and policy barriers

2152
01:14:37,309 --> 01:14:37,559
collaborating with community and

2153
01:14:39,043 --> 01:14:39,293
it is rooted in increasing

2154
01:14:39,643 --> 01:14:39,893
community safety for everyone.

2155
01:14:44,776 --> 01:14:45,026
Over the years the work group

2156
01:14:46,509 --> 01:14:46,759
has worked collaboratively to

2157
01:14:48,509 --> 01:14:48,759
identify five priority areas

2158
01:14:50,776 --> 01:14:51,026
surrounding economic access

2159
01:14:52,776 --> 01:14:53,026
based on the most pressing

2160
01:14:54,776 --> 01:14:55,026
issues facing victim survivors

2161
01:14:57,009 --> 01:14:57,259
in our communities and so our 55

2162
01:15:00,743 --> 01:15:00,993
pillars being housing which

2163
01:15:03,243 --> 01:15:03,493
includes easy and easy access to

2164
01:15:05,243 --> 01:15:05,493
safe and affordable housing

2165
01:15:08,676 --> 01:15:08,926
tenant rights as well as

2166
01:15:09,276 --> 01:15:09,526
emergency shelter

2167
01:15:12,509 --> 01:15:12,759
workers' rights so livable

2168
01:15:14,743 --> 01:15:14,993
wages paid family leave, child

2169
01:15:15,443 --> 01:15:15,693
care and benefits

2170
01:15:19,243 --> 01:15:19,493
healthcare meaning access to

2171
01:15:21,276 --> 01:15:21,526
affordable mental and physical

2172
01:15:23,309 --> 01:15:23,559
health care as well as

2173
01:15:25,443 --> 01:15:25,693
appropriate screening within our

2174
01:15:26,109 --> 01:15:26,359
healthcare systems

2175
01:15:30,509 --> 01:15:30,759
revenue being how we spend

2176
01:15:32,509 --> 01:15:32,759
our money and the need for

2177
01:15:33,243 --> 01:15:33,493
increased dollars to the state

2178
01:15:35,243 --> 01:15:35,493
general budget to appropriately

2179
01:15:37,009 --> 01:15:37,259
fund things like prevention

2180
01:15:39,276 --> 01:15:39,526
programming and supportive

2181
01:15:41,209 --> 01:15:41,459
social support programs and

2182
01:15:42,676 --> 01:15:42,926
lastly being reproductive

2183
01:15:43,276 --> 01:15:43,526
access.

2184
01:15:46,009 --> 01:15:46,259
so when we're talking about

2185
01:15:47,276 --> 01:15:47,526
reproductive access we mean

2186
01:15:50,509 --> 01:15:50,759
wrapparound care for all stages

2187
01:15:52,743 --> 01:15:52,993
of family planning reproductive

2188
01:15:53,609 --> 01:15:53,859
health and choice. so this

2189
01:15:54,176 --> 01:15:54,426
includes

2190
01:15:56,976 --> 01:15:57,226
accessible and affordable

2191
01:15:59,276 --> 01:15:59,526
prenatal care for expecting

2192
01:16:02,509 --> 01:16:02,759
parents access to and informed

2193
01:16:04,743 --> 01:16:04,993
choices regarding contraception

2194
01:16:07,009 --> 01:16:07,259
eququiing individuals with the

2195
01:16:09,209 --> 01:16:09,459
tools necessary for informed

2196
01:16:12,509 --> 01:16:12,759
family planning and wrap around

2197
01:16:14,676 --> 01:16:14,926
unrestricted access to all

2198
01:16:15,209 --> 01:16:15,459
reproductive healthcare

2199
01:16:18,976 --> 01:16:19,226
so why do we send a reproductive

2200
01:16:20,509 --> 01:16:20,759
healthcare as a priority for

2201
01:16:22,976 --> 01:16:23,226
violence prevention. the ants

2202
01:16:23,676 --> 01:16:23,926
are really is simple

2203
01:16:26,709 --> 01:16:26,959
s ear ch continues to show that

2204
01:16:28,976 --> 01:16:29,226
reproductive health access and

2205
01:16:30,743 --> 01:16:30,993
violence are deeply

2206
01:16:32,743 --> 01:16:32,993
interconnected public health

2207
01:16:34,509 --> 01:16:34,759
issues and at its core

2208
01:16:36,776 --> 01:16:37,026
reproductive access is violence

2209
01:16:38,743 --> 01:16:38,993
prevention because when people

2210
01:16:40,776 --> 01:16:41,026
do not have choices about what

2211
01:16:41,409 --> 01:16:41,659
happens to their bodies

2212
01:16:45,009 --> 01:16:45,259
those at risk or victim

2213
01:16:46,709 --> 01:16:46,959
survivors who have already

2214
01:16:47,443 --> 01:16:47,693
experienced violence can become

2215
01:16:49,276 --> 01:16:49,526
trapped in abusive situations

2216
01:16:51,576 --> 01:16:51,826
and increasing their dependency

2217
01:16:52,276 --> 01:16:52,526
on harmdoers.

2218
01:16:56,776 --> 01:16:57,026
Deeply concerning is also that

2219
01:16:59,043 --> 01:16:59,293
approximately 20% of pregnant

2220
01:17:01,243 --> 01:17:01,493
individuals experience some form

2221
01:17:02,676 --> 01:17:02,926
of violence during pregnancy

2222
01:17:06,476 --> 01:17:06,726
with homicide being the leading

2223
01:17:07,409 --> 01:17:07,659
cause of death among pregnant

2224
01:17:08,076 --> 01:17:08,326
individuals.

2225
01:17:12,743 --> 01:17:12,993
We also know that abusers often

2226
01:17:14,509 --> 01:17:14,759
manipulate systems to work

2227
01:17:16,743 --> 01:17:16,993
against victim survivors using

2228
01:17:18,743 --> 01:17:18,993
those very systems to further

2229
01:17:20,509 --> 01:17:20,759
control and punish them for

2230
01:17:21,243 --> 01:17:21,493
circumstances that are far

2231
01:17:21,809 --> 01:17:22,059
beyond their control

2232
01:17:25,043 --> 01:17:25,293
so knowing all of this that is

2233
01:17:27,009 --> 01:17:27,259
why we are super proud to have

2234
01:17:29,043 --> 01:17:29,293
partnered and worked alongside

2235
01:17:31,009 --> 01:17:31,259
if how when to address some of

2236
01:17:32,743 --> 01:17:32,993
the current challenges in

2237
01:17:34,776 --> 01:17:35,026
nevada's reproductive access

2238
01:17:36,743 --> 01:17:36,993
statutes and chair if it's ok

2239
01:17:38,776 --> 01:17:39,026
I'd like to pass it over to

2240
01:17:40,743 --> 01:17:40,993
Sarah Annsworth from If Howwin

2241
01:17:42,509 --> 01:17:42,759
to go over a few specific

2242
01:17:44,776 --> 01:17:45,026
statutes that are priorities of

2243
01:17:46,743 --> 01:17:46,993
the economic justiceorkroup and

2244
01:17:47,576 --> 01:17:47,826
then we'll stand for any

2245
01:17:48,143 --> 01:17:48,393
questions at the end.

2246
01:18:01,509 --> 01:18:01,759
Yes please go ahead

2247
01:18:06,676 --> 01:18:06,926
do we have

2248
01:18:13,209 --> 01:18:13,459
Yes, I'm here.'m just having a

2249
01:18:15,209 --> 01:18:15,459
little screen sharing problem.

2250
01:18:17,009 --> 01:18:17,259
hello chair and members of

2251
01:18:18,776 --> 01:18:19,026
the committee. I'm grateful to

2252
01:18:19,476 --> 01:18:19,726
be here today. I'm gonna go

2253
01:18:20,643 --> 01:18:20,893
ahead and share my screen and

2254
01:18:21,309 --> 01:18:21,559
get started right

2255
01:18:30,709 --> 01:18:30,959
OK

2256
01:18:32,843 --> 01:18:33,093
just confirming everyone can see

2257
01:18:33,509 --> 01:18:33,759
that

2258
01:18:36,943 --> 01:18:37,193
Great. thank you.

2259
01:18:40,709 --> 01:18:40,959
well good morning and

2260
01:18:42,543 --> 01:18:42,793
thank you so much for hosting

2261
01:18:44,509 --> 01:18:44,759
us today to talk with you about

2262
01:18:46,509 --> 01:18:46,759
this really important issue.

2263
01:18:48,509 --> 01:18:48,759
my name is Sarah Ainsworth I'm

2264
01:18:50,509 --> 01:18:50,759
an attorney and the chief legal

2265
01:18:52,509 --> 01:18:52,759
and policy director at Ifwynho

2266
01:18:53,209 --> 01:18:53,459
Lawing for reproductive justice.

2267
01:18:57,509 --> 01:18:57,759
I'm gonna talk today briefly

2268
01:18:59,043 --> 01:18:59,293
about what our organization does

2269
01:19:01,043 --> 01:19:01,293
so you know and then also

2270
01:19:03,009 --> 01:19:03,259
speak about two specific

2271
01:19:04,776 --> 01:19:05,026
Nevada laws that put people at

2272
01:19:06,743 --> 01:19:06,993
risk for criminalization as a

2273
01:19:08,743 --> 01:19:08,993
result of abortion or pregnancy

2274
01:19:09,543 --> 01:19:09,793
loss and then we'll have some

2275
01:19:11,009 --> 01:19:11,259
time for questions and you can

2276
01:19:12,676 --> 01:19:12,926
also ask Serena questions as

2277
01:19:13,276 --> 01:19:13,526
well.

2278
01:19:16,776 --> 01:19:17,026
so quickly about if and how

2279
01:19:19,009 --> 01:19:19,259
we are a national nonprofit

2280
01:19:21,009 --> 01:19:21,259
legal organization we work to

2281
01:19:23,309 --> 01:19:23,559
provide legal services for

2282
01:19:25,243 --> 01:19:25,493
people as to their

2283
01:19:28,509 --> 01:19:28,759
reproductive lives we defend

2284
01:19:29,276 --> 01:19:29,526
people who've been criminalized

2285
01:19:32,509 --> 01:19:32,759
for losing a pregnancy or having

2286
01:19:34,743 --> 01:19:34,993
an abortion and we work closely

2287
01:19:36,509 --> 01:19:36,759
with state legislators and state

2288
01:19:38,776 --> 01:19:39,026
advocates around the country to

2289
01:19:40,809 --> 01:19:41,059
ensure that laws on the books

2290
01:19:42,543 --> 01:19:42,793
that could criminalize people

2291
01:19:43,143 --> 01:19:43,393
are removed and that positive

2292
01:19:43,809 --> 01:19:44,059
laws are passed

2293
01:19:46,509 --> 01:19:46,759
to help ensure that people

2294
01:19:47,276 --> 01:19:47,526
access healthcare not

2295
01:19:49,043 --> 01:19:49,293
criminalization when they

2296
01:19:49,609 --> 01:19:49,859
experience a pregnancy outcome.

2297
01:19:52,976 --> 01:19:53,226
we also provide reprolegal

2298
01:19:55,009 --> 01:19:55,259
helpline which is the only

2299
01:19:56,776 --> 01:19:57,026
nationwide free legal services

2300
01:19:58,776 --> 01:19:59,026
helpline we speak with people in

2301
01:20:00,543 --> 01:20:00,793
every state and the US

2302
01:20:02,976 --> 01:20:03,226
territories including Nevada

2303
01:20:04,743 --> 01:20:04,993
since the Dobbs decision came

2304
01:20:05,343 --> 01:20:05,593
down we have counseled

2305
01:20:07,109 --> 01:20:07,359
over12,000 people throughout the

2306
01:20:07,776 --> 01:20:08,026
United States.

2307
01:20:11,009 --> 01:20:11,259
pe c ific ally in Nevada we have

2308
01:20:14,509 --> 01:20:14,759
supported local attorneys

2309
01:20:16,509 --> 01:20:16,759
in their work to defend people

2310
01:20:17,276 --> 01:20:17,526
who have been criminalized under

2311
01:20:19,009 --> 01:20:19,259
the statute that I'm going to

2312
01:20:20,776 --> 01:20:21,026
speak about today. and we

2313
01:20:22,509 --> 01:20:22,759
also are working closely with

2314
01:20:24,509 --> 01:20:24,759
state advocates likeyrena and

2315
01:20:26,509 --> 01:20:26,759
others who testified before

2316
01:20:29,009 --> 01:20:29,259
you today to ask you to

2317
01:20:30,976 --> 01:20:31,226
repeal the last

2318
01:20:31,609 --> 01:20:31,859
selfmanaged abortion crime in

2319
01:20:32,276 --> 01:20:32,526
the United States.

2320
01:20:36,776 --> 01:20:37,026
so'll quickly go over what the

2321
01:20:37,443 --> 01:20:37,693
statutes are that we're

2322
01:20:39,009 --> 01:20:39,259
concerned about today and their

2323
01:20:39,643 --> 01:20:39,893
impact that they have had on

2324
01:20:40,309 --> 01:20:40,559
people in Nevada.

2325
01:20:43,543 --> 01:20:43,793
so first of all as you all

2326
01:20:46,509 --> 01:20:46,759
know in Nevada abortion is

2327
01:20:47,276 --> 01:20:47,526
lawfully protected and it is

2328
01:20:48,643 --> 01:20:48,893
also accessible

2329
01:20:52,776 --> 01:20:53,026
nonetheless, Nevada retains

2330
01:20:55,043 --> 01:20:55,293
and prosecutors have utilized a

2331
01:20:56,509 --> 01:20:56,759
law that makes it a crime of

2332
01:20:58,509 --> 01:20:58,759
manslaughter for a person to end

2333
01:20:59,709 --> 01:20:59,959
their own pregnancy after 24

2334
01:21:00,276 --> 01:21:00,526
weeks of pregnancy.

2335
01:21:04,976 --> 01:21:05,226
Nevada also has another

2336
01:21:06,743 --> 01:21:06,993
antiquated law that makes it a

2337
01:21:08,543 --> 01:21:08,793
misdemeanor crime to conceal the

2338
01:21:09,309 --> 01:21:09,559
birth of a child a serious

2339
01:21:09,843 --> 01:21:10,093
misdemeanor a gross misdemeanor.

2340
01:21:13,643 --> 01:21:13,893
So since 2018

2341
01:21:16,943 --> 01:21:17,193
at least twonevadans have been

2342
01:21:18,543 --> 01:21:18,793
criminalized for allegedly

2343
01:21:20,776 --> 01:21:21,026
ending their own pregnancy. We

2344
01:21:22,509 --> 01:21:22,759
don't know if there are more

2345
01:21:24,509 --> 01:21:24,759
because each county keeps its

2346
01:21:25,276 --> 01:21:25,526
own records and it's not easy to

2347
01:21:26,976 --> 01:21:27,226
determine whether or not a

2348
01:21:28,743 --> 01:21:28,993
person perhaps was charged,

2349
01:21:30,509 --> 01:21:30,759
threatened, arrested and never

2350
01:21:31,243 --> 01:21:31,493
charged but we know of at

2351
01:21:34,509 --> 01:21:34,759
least two and what this prime

2352
01:21:36,509 --> 01:21:36,759
for selfmanaged abortion does is

2353
01:21:38,709 --> 01:21:38,959
put anyone whether they ended

2354
01:21:40,709 --> 01:21:40,959
their own pregnancy whether

2355
01:21:42,576 --> 01:21:42,826
before 24 weeks or after or

2356
01:21:43,376 --> 01:21:43,626
whether they had a miscarriage

2357
01:21:44,076 --> 01:21:44,326
or a stillbirth but especially a

2358
01:21:47,243 --> 01:21:47,493
later pregnancy loss at risk of

2359
01:21:49,243 --> 01:21:49,493
being investigated arrested and

2360
01:21:52,743 --> 01:21:52,993
even prosecuted for a felony

2361
01:21:54,776 --> 01:21:55,026
and as Serena talked about it

2362
01:21:56,643 --> 01:21:56,893
also hands abusive partners a

2363
01:21:59,243 --> 01:21:59,493
tool and they have been

2364
01:22:01,043 --> 01:22:01,293
emboldened since the loss of the

2365
01:22:02,509 --> 01:22:02,759
federal protection for the

2366
01:22:04,509 --> 01:22:04,759
abortion right in every state.

2367
01:22:05,243 --> 01:22:05,493
It hands them another tool of

2368
01:22:07,009 --> 01:22:07,259
control and in fact in one of

2369
01:22:08,476 --> 01:22:08,726
the cases that we've seen in

2370
01:22:09,276 --> 01:22:09,526
Nevada it was in fact the

2371
01:22:11,509 --> 01:22:11,759
abusive partner who contacted

2372
01:22:13,009 --> 01:22:13,259
the police and accused his

2373
01:22:15,043 --> 01:22:15,293
partner of this crime in

2374
01:22:17,043 --> 01:22:17,293
retaliation for an arrest for

2375
01:22:19,276 --> 01:22:19,526
assault against her. no

2376
01:22:20,709 --> 01:22:20,959
charges were ultimately filed

2377
01:22:22,509 --> 01:22:22,759
against her but she was still

2378
01:22:23,476 --> 01:22:23,726
arrested and she was still

2379
01:22:24,776 --> 01:22:25,026
investigated and had to go

2380
01:22:25,409 --> 01:22:25,659
through that terrible

2381
01:22:25,843 --> 01:22:26,093
experience.

2382
01:22:31,243 --> 01:22:31,493
so as I've explained before the

2383
01:22:33,243 --> 01:22:33,493
law sweeps in people who

2384
01:22:33,809 --> 01:22:34,059
miscarry or have stillbirths

2385
01:22:38,476 --> 01:22:38,726
one of them who is probably

2386
01:22:39,276 --> 01:22:39,526
known to you her name at the

2387
01:22:40,943 --> 01:22:41,193
time was Patience Frazier she

2388
01:22:41,609 --> 01:22:41,859
goes by a new last name now.

2389
01:22:44,509 --> 01:22:44,759
she was a mother of three who

2390
01:22:46,509 --> 01:22:46,759
experienced a stillbirth. She

2391
01:22:47,276 --> 01:22:47,526
honored her lost baby with a

2392
01:22:49,009 --> 01:22:49,259
memorial that she shared on

2393
01:22:50,743 --> 01:22:50,993
Facebook and then she was

2394
01:22:53,243 --> 01:22:53,493
targeted for rest

2395
01:22:56,476 --> 01:22:56,726
investigation and ultimately

2396
01:22:57,209 --> 01:22:57,459
prosecution under the

2397
01:23:00,509 --> 01:23:00,759
selffmanaged abortionri. as a

2398
01:23:01,276 --> 01:23:01,526
result of her wrongful

2399
01:23:03,043 --> 01:23:03,293
prosecution and conviction, the

2400
01:23:05,009 --> 01:23:05,259
state of Nevada ultimately paid

2401
01:23:07,343 --> 01:23:07,593
her100,000 dollars while that's

2402
01:23:09,009 --> 01:23:09,259
a significant amount surely for

2403
01:23:11,076 --> 01:23:11,326
the state. Nothing can make up

2404
01:23:11,776 --> 01:23:12,026
for the years she spent in

2405
01:23:13,243 --> 01:23:13,493
prison before her conviction was

2406
01:23:15,209 --> 01:23:15,459
overturned the time away from

2407
01:23:17,276 --> 01:23:17,526
her children and the public

2408
01:23:18,676 --> 01:23:18,926
humiliation that honestly

2409
01:23:19,243 --> 01:23:19,493
continues to this

2410
01:23:23,076 --> 01:23:23,326
So I want to share a little bit

2411
01:23:24,509 --> 01:23:24,759
about what other states have

2412
01:23:25,143 --> 01:23:25,393
done cause I think that's

2413
01:23:26,643 --> 01:23:26,893
important to to let you all

2414
01:23:27,209 --> 01:23:27,459
know

2415
01:23:29,276 --> 01:23:29,526
so the vast majority of states

2416
01:23:31,243 --> 01:23:31,493
never had a crime like this on

2417
01:23:33,043 --> 01:23:33,293
the books and when I say

2418
01:23:34,509 --> 01:23:34,759
never I mean never in the

2419
01:23:35,276 --> 01:23:35,526
history of the United States

2420
01:23:37,309 --> 01:23:37,559
even before abortion began to

2421
01:23:38,776 --> 01:23:39,026
crim be criminalized in the

2422
01:23:40,976 --> 01:23:41,226
late1800s and on into the early

2423
01:23:43,309 --> 01:23:43,559
20th century the vast majority

2424
01:23:45,043 --> 01:23:45,293
of states never made it a crime

2425
01:23:46,776 --> 01:23:47,026
to have an abortion. They

2426
01:23:47,409 --> 01:23:47,659
criminalized abortion providers

2427
01:23:52,976 --> 01:23:53,226
so as of 2018 only seven

2428
01:23:54,743 --> 01:23:54,993
states in the United States had

2429
01:23:56,843 --> 01:23:57,093
a law like Nevada's

2430
01:23:57,309 --> 01:23:57,559
selfmanaged abortion crime

2431
01:24:02,476 --> 01:24:02,726
and since 2018 all of the other

2432
01:24:04,476 --> 01:24:04,726
states except Nevada have done

2433
01:24:05,443 --> 01:24:05,693
away with them so briefly to

2434
01:24:07,209 --> 01:24:07,459
kind of explain a little bit

2435
01:24:09,176 --> 01:24:09,426
New York and Delaware both

2436
01:24:12,509 --> 01:24:12,759
passed positive statutes that

2437
01:24:13,209 --> 01:24:13,459
reinforced access to abortion

2438
01:24:15,209 --> 01:24:15,459
and abortion rights and in those

2439
01:24:17,376 --> 01:24:17,626
statutes repealed the

2440
01:24:17,809 --> 01:24:18,059
selfmanaged abortion crimes

2441
01:24:21,009 --> 01:24:21,259
Other states who have chosen to

2442
01:24:22,976 --> 01:24:23,226
ban abortions since the Dobbs

2443
01:24:24,743 --> 01:24:24,993
decision repealed their

2444
01:24:26,743 --> 01:24:26,993
selfmanaged abortion crimes as a

2445
01:24:27,476 --> 01:24:27,726
result of their legislation that

2446
01:24:29,476 --> 01:24:29,726
banned abortion entirely but

2447
01:24:32,509 --> 01:24:32,759
exempts pregnant people, people

2448
01:24:33,276 --> 01:24:33,526
who have abortions from any kind

2449
01:24:36,776 --> 01:24:37,026
of criminalization so as of

2450
01:24:38,509 --> 01:24:38,759
all the states that bann

2451
01:24:39,009 --> 01:24:39,259
abortion at this time and there

2452
01:24:41,309 --> 01:24:41,559
are currently13 states enforcing

2453
01:24:42,543 --> 01:24:42,793
abortion bans and one that's

2454
01:24:43,309 --> 01:24:43,559
going back and forth as you know

2455
01:24:46,776 --> 01:24:47,026
this is evolving constantly

2456
01:24:47,343 --> 01:24:47,593
in the state courts none of

2457
01:24:47,909 --> 01:24:48,159
those states

2458
01:24:50,509 --> 01:24:50,759
allow the prosecution of a

2459
01:24:52,509 --> 01:24:52,759
person for having an abortion.

2460
01:24:53,576 --> 01:24:53,826
The crimes are targeted at pro

2461
01:24:54,243 --> 01:24:54,493
at providers

2462
01:24:57,276 --> 01:24:57,526
so inokklahoma and South

2463
01:24:59,009 --> 01:24:59,259
Carolina they banned abortion

2464
01:25:01,009 --> 01:25:01,259
and they repealed their

2465
01:25:01,543 --> 01:25:01,793
selfmanaged abortion crime and

2466
01:25:03,243 --> 01:25:03,493
that's still true today. Arizona

2467
01:25:04,976 --> 01:25:05,226
did the same thing but then in

2468
01:25:07,243 --> 01:25:07,493
Arizona court enjoined their

2469
01:25:09,009 --> 01:25:09,259
abortion ban so while abortion

2470
01:25:11,043 --> 01:25:11,293
is allowed in arizona today

2471
01:25:12,743 --> 01:25:12,993
there's self managed abortion

2472
01:25:14,543 --> 01:25:14,793
crime is still off the books and

2473
01:25:16,609 --> 01:25:16,859
then iniddaho theinth Circuit

2474
01:25:17,409 --> 01:25:17,659
Court of Appeals upheld a

2475
01:25:19,043 --> 01:25:19,293
permanent injunction against

2476
01:25:20,976 --> 01:25:21,226
their selfmanaged abortion crime

2477
01:25:23,309 --> 01:25:23,559
back in 2015 and then when they

2478
01:25:23,976 --> 01:25:24,226
banned abortion they

2479
01:25:26,509 --> 01:25:26,759
re pe al ed a whole host of

2480
01:25:27,443 --> 01:25:27,693
statutes and this one is

2481
01:25:28,009 --> 01:25:28,259
repealed by implication.

2482
01:25:32,509 --> 01:25:32,759
and so just really quickly

2483
01:25:34,509 --> 01:25:34,759
in Oklahoma people in Oklahoma

2484
01:25:35,143 --> 01:25:35,393
followed up by asking the

2485
01:25:36,776 --> 01:25:37,026
attorney general to confirm is

2486
01:25:38,509 --> 01:25:38,759
it in fact true? did the

2487
01:25:39,509 --> 01:25:39,759
legislature intend to do this

2488
01:25:41,243 --> 01:25:41,493
and the attorney general in 2023

2489
01:25:44,776 --> 01:25:45,026
in Oklahoma confirmed indeed and

2490
01:25:46,976 --> 01:25:47,226
then as I I put on the slide

2491
01:25:50,509 --> 01:25:50,759
noted that historically in

2492
01:25:51,543 --> 01:25:51,793
Oklahoma and nationwide pregnant

2493
01:25:53,043 --> 01:25:53,293
women have not been prosecuted

2494
01:25:54,676 --> 01:25:54,926
for seeking obtaining or

2495
01:25:55,243 --> 01:25:55,493
inducing an abortion.

2496
01:25:59,009 --> 01:25:59,259
so now Nevada is the only state

2497
01:26:00,676 --> 01:26:00,926
with such a law that makes

2498
01:26:01,243 --> 01:26:01,493
selfmanaged abortion a

2499
01:26:05,676 --> 01:26:05,926
and then as to the other statute

2500
01:26:06,343 --> 01:26:06,593
concealing birth

2501
01:26:09,009 --> 01:26:09,259
concealing birth has a pretty

2502
01:26:10,743 --> 01:26:10,993
different history. Currently

2503
01:26:12,776 --> 01:26:13,026
only16 states have a statute

2504
01:26:15,343 --> 01:26:15,593
like that. those statutes are

2505
01:26:17,076 --> 01:26:17,326
antiquated statutes that are

2506
01:26:19,043 --> 01:26:19,293
colonial era and actually we're

2507
01:26:20,776 --> 01:26:21,026
precolonial they came over from

2508
01:26:24,809 --> 01:26:25,059
England and they it was a

2509
01:26:25,576 --> 01:26:25,826
colonial era crime used to

2510
01:26:27,309 --> 01:26:27,559
criminalize women for having out

2511
01:26:29,076 --> 01:26:29,326
of wedlock births. The crimes

2512
01:26:30,809 --> 01:26:31,059
are very specific to that and

2513
01:26:32,509 --> 01:26:32,759
indeed massachusetts is

2514
01:26:34,509 --> 01:26:34,759
concealing birth still uses that

2515
01:26:35,643 --> 01:26:35,893
language of out of wedlock umirs

2516
01:26:36,309 --> 01:26:36,559
the

2517
01:26:39,043 --> 01:26:39,293
theory was that if someone had

2518
01:26:41,276 --> 01:26:41,526
had a baby and hid that fact

2519
01:26:43,043 --> 01:26:43,293
they and they couldn't and the

2520
01:26:45,043 --> 01:26:45,293
baby wasn't either maybe

2521
01:26:46,809 --> 01:26:47,059
had died and still it was a

2522
01:26:48,809 --> 01:26:49,059
stillbirth that perhaps the

2523
01:26:50,543 --> 01:26:50,793
woman had killed the infant to

2524
01:26:52,509 --> 01:26:52,759
hide the fact of its birth. so

2525
01:26:53,343 --> 01:26:53,593
this law allowed prosecutors to

2526
01:26:55,276 --> 01:26:55,526
bring very serious charges

2527
01:26:57,309 --> 01:26:57,559
against women without having to

2528
01:26:58,676 --> 01:26:58,926
prove that a homicide actually

2529
01:26:59,343 --> 01:26:59,593
occurred

2530
01:27:02,509 --> 01:27:02,759
so this crime is antiquated

2531
01:27:03,509 --> 01:27:03,759
meaning it no longer appears in

2532
01:27:04,743 --> 01:27:04,993
the United States uniform

2533
01:27:06,776 --> 01:27:07,026
Criminal Code which is as you

2534
01:27:08,509 --> 01:27:08,759
know because you're legislators

2535
01:27:10,509 --> 01:27:10,759
legislators look to for

2536
01:27:12,509 --> 01:27:12,759
updates often to ensure

2537
01:27:13,209 --> 01:27:13,459
that their criminal codes are up

2538
01:27:14,976 --> 01:27:15,226
to date and to see trends around

2539
01:27:15,643 --> 01:27:15,893
the United States.

2540
01:27:17,409 --> 01:27:17,659
so

2541
01:27:20,776 --> 01:27:21,026
really what we have now is a law

2542
01:27:22,509 --> 01:27:22,759
still on the books and it's only

2543
01:27:24,543 --> 01:27:24,793
modern use is to go after

2544
01:27:25,276 --> 01:27:25,526
people who experienced a

2545
01:27:27,009 --> 01:27:27,259
miscarriage or a stillbirth for

2546
01:27:28,743 --> 01:27:28,993
criminalization what happened to

2547
01:27:31,009 --> 01:27:31,259
them this is a picture of

2548
01:27:32,743 --> 01:27:32,993
Anneynum. this happened to her

2549
01:27:35,043 --> 01:27:35,293
in Arkansas. herr conviction was

2550
01:27:35,743 --> 01:27:35,993
ultimately overturned on appeal.

2551
01:27:40,509 --> 01:27:40,759
so basically what happens is

2552
01:27:42,509 --> 01:27:42,759
these crimes being on the books

2553
01:27:43,276 --> 01:27:43,526
increase the risk that some

2554
01:27:45,043 --> 01:27:45,293
people will be criminalized for

2555
01:27:47,009 --> 01:27:47,259
abortion or pregnancy loss and I

2556
01:27:50,509 --> 01:27:50,759
say some people because some

2557
01:27:52,776 --> 01:27:53,026
people are never likely to come

2558
01:27:54,776 --> 01:27:55,026
into the crosshairs of the

2559
01:27:56,776 --> 01:27:57,026
criminal legal system because

2560
01:27:57,376 --> 01:27:57,626
they experienced a pregnancy

2561
01:28:00,509 --> 01:28:00,759
loss we we have learned from

2562
01:28:01,243 --> 01:28:01,493
our studies over time and from

2563
01:28:04,509 --> 01:28:04,759
our own caseload that the vast

2564
01:28:05,309 --> 01:28:05,559
majority of people who are

2565
01:28:07,109 --> 01:28:07,359
targeted are living in poverty

2566
01:28:07,776 --> 01:28:08,026
they are

2567
01:28:09,309 --> 01:28:09,559
experiencing economic insecurity

2568
01:28:11,243 --> 01:28:11,493
when this happens to them they

2569
01:28:14,509 --> 01:28:14,759
are often very young. they are

2570
01:28:15,276 --> 01:28:15,526
disproportionately women of

2571
01:28:16,509 --> 01:28:16,759
color. they are

2572
01:28:18,509 --> 01:28:18,759
disproportionately immigrants

2573
01:28:20,776 --> 01:28:21,026
and they instead of getting a

2574
01:28:22,776 --> 01:28:23,026
healthcare response to a

2575
01:28:25,009 --> 01:28:25,259
healthcare issue. they are

2576
01:28:28,509 --> 01:28:28,759
instead criminalized and it is

2577
01:28:29,276 --> 01:28:29,526
that criminalization that in

2578
01:28:30,776 --> 01:28:31,026
fact undermines public health

2579
01:28:32,543 --> 01:28:32,793
because it scares people from

2580
01:28:33,209 --> 01:28:33,459
seeking care when they need it

2581
01:28:33,909 --> 01:28:34,159
the most.

2582
01:28:36,743 --> 01:28:36,993
and for that reason, every major

2583
01:28:37,476 --> 01:28:37,726
medical group in the United

2584
01:28:39,009 --> 01:28:39,259
States from the American Medical

2585
01:28:40,776 --> 01:28:41,026
association to the American

2586
01:28:42,509 --> 01:28:42,759
College of Obstetricians and

2587
01:28:44,509 --> 01:28:44,759
Gynecologists to the American

2588
01:28:45,243 --> 01:28:45,493
Public Health Association

2589
01:28:47,243 --> 01:28:47,493
explicitly opposed the

2590
01:28:48,743 --> 01:28:48,993
criminalization of people for

2591
01:28:50,976 --> 01:28:51,226
abortion or pregnancy loss. I

2592
01:28:53,243 --> 01:28:53,493
did send these slides to you all

2593
01:28:55,243 --> 01:28:55,493
for so that you have them but

2594
01:28:58,509 --> 01:28:58,759
since I sent them there's aid

2595
01:29:00,509 --> 01:29:00,759
now update which I'll skip to

2596
01:29:01,509 --> 01:29:01,759
here breaking news the Nevada

2597
01:29:02,943 --> 01:29:03,193
State Medical association also

2598
01:29:03,609 --> 01:29:03,859
specific

2599
01:29:06,743 --> 01:29:06,993
ally adopted this this

2600
01:29:08,743 --> 01:29:08,993
opinion last week they passed a

2601
01:29:10,776 --> 01:29:11,026
resolution saying that no person

2602
01:29:12,776 --> 01:29:13,026
should be penalized, prosecuted

2603
01:29:14,743 --> 01:29:14,993
or subjected to adverse action

2604
01:29:15,443 --> 01:29:15,693
based on their pregnancy

2605
01:29:17,243 --> 01:29:17,493
outcomes and they are calling

2606
01:29:18,843 --> 01:29:19,093
for the repeal of these two

2607
01:29:19,409 --> 01:29:19,659
crimes.

2608
01:29:23,243 --> 01:29:23,493
so that is the end of my

2609
01:29:25,009 --> 01:29:25,259
presentation and the summary is

2610
01:29:26,476 --> 01:29:26,726
simply that no one should be

2611
01:29:27,276 --> 01:29:27,526
criminalized for their

2612
01:29:29,243 --> 01:29:29,493
pregnancy outcomes and we

2613
01:29:30,976 --> 01:29:31,226
should repeal both of these

2614
01:29:32,743 --> 01:29:32,993
crimes and I'm both Serena and I

2615
01:29:34,509 --> 01:29:34,759
can take any questions that you

2616
01:29:35,176 --> 01:29:35,426
have now and thank you so much

2617
01:29:35,876 --> 01:29:36,126
for your time today.

2618
01:29:40,509 --> 01:29:40,759
thank you for your time today we

2619
01:29:42,509 --> 01:29:42,759
appreciate you being here and

2620
01:29:43,276 --> 01:29:43,526
presenting all that information

2621
01:29:45,109 --> 01:29:45,359
to us. are there questions in

2622
01:29:45,776 --> 01:29:46,026
Las Vegas?

2623
01:29:48,709 --> 01:29:48,959
right vicechair Miller

2624
01:29:51,143 --> 01:29:51,393
thank you so much chair

2625
01:29:53,709 --> 01:29:53,959
and thank you for the

2626
01:29:55,209 --> 01:29:55,459
presentationgain always bringing

2627
01:29:55,943 --> 01:29:56,193
awareness to

2628
01:29:58,776 --> 01:29:59,026
some of these things that

2629
01:30:00,543 --> 01:30:00,793
we're just not aware are

2630
01:30:02,509 --> 01:30:02,759
occurring and I do I have two

2631
01:30:04,509 --> 01:30:04,759
brief questions. First I just

2632
01:30:05,109 --> 01:30:05,359
want to make sure that I

2633
01:30:06,976 --> 01:30:07,226
understand is the term

2634
01:30:09,009 --> 01:30:09,259
selfmanaged abortion being used

2635
01:30:11,009 --> 01:30:11,259
because I know medically an

2636
01:30:13,309 --> 01:30:13,559
abortion is what we consider a

2637
01:30:15,243 --> 01:30:15,493
miscarriage is is that what

2638
01:30:18,509 --> 01:30:18,759
we're using so that a self

2639
01:30:19,243 --> 01:30:19,493
managed abortion would not be a

2640
01:30:22,776 --> 01:30:23,026
natural abortion of the baby

2641
01:30:24,509 --> 01:30:24,759
a miscarriage as we would call

2642
01:30:25,343 --> 01:30:25,593
it but as a choice when when

2643
01:30:26,009 --> 01:30:26,259
someone

2644
01:30:29,343 --> 01:30:29,593
chooses to go get a medically

2645
01:30:30,043 --> 01:30:30,293
performed abortion

2646
01:30:34,509 --> 01:30:34,759
yes, I'll make one more

2647
01:30:36,509 --> 01:30:36,759
distinction there you know as

2648
01:30:37,209 --> 01:30:37,459
you say your name for the record

2649
01:30:39,243 --> 01:30:39,493
sorry I'm sorry this is Sarah

2650
01:30:40,709 --> 01:30:40,959
Ainsworth and I'm happy to

2651
01:30:42,776 --> 01:30:43,026
answer that question. so

2652
01:30:44,509 --> 01:30:44,759
they'll make one further

2653
01:30:47,009 --> 01:30:47,259
distinction. I as you know we

2654
01:30:49,043 --> 01:30:49,293
use the term the medical term is

2655
01:30:50,509 --> 01:30:50,759
abortion for the end of a

2656
01:30:51,276 --> 01:30:51,526
pregnancy a spontaneous

2657
01:30:53,009 --> 01:30:53,259
abortion's the term typically

2658
01:30:55,309 --> 01:30:55,559
used for a then unplanned

2659
01:30:57,309 --> 01:30:57,559
miscarriage that happens without

2660
01:30:59,043 --> 01:30:59,293
anyone's involvement. A

2661
01:31:00,843 --> 01:31:01,093
selfmanaged abortion is when

2662
01:31:01,443 --> 01:31:01,693
somebody ends

2663
01:31:03,276 --> 01:31:03,526
their pregnancy on their own

2664
01:31:05,009 --> 01:31:05,259
typically outside the medical

2665
01:31:06,743 --> 01:31:06,993
system or through a telehealth

2666
01:31:09,009 --> 01:31:09,259
abortion and those are almost

2667
01:31:10,743 --> 01:31:10,993
exclusively in the United States

2668
01:31:11,476 --> 01:31:11,726
done with the use of the same

2669
01:31:12,776 --> 01:31:13,026
abortion pills a person might

2670
01:31:14,776 --> 01:31:15,026
get at a clinic and then there's

2671
01:31:15,509 --> 01:31:15,759
a clinicbased abortion which

2672
01:31:18,509 --> 01:31:18,759
could be both pills or a

2673
01:31:20,776 --> 01:31:21,026
medical procedure and so when

2674
01:31:22,509 --> 01:31:22,759
I say specifically self managed

2675
01:31:23,543 --> 01:31:23,793
abortion I'm using it in the

2676
01:31:25,309 --> 01:31:25,559
same way the statute uses it

2677
01:31:26,776 --> 01:31:27,026
where if somebody does something

2678
01:31:27,509 --> 01:31:27,759
to themselves, takes some

2679
01:31:29,343 --> 01:31:29,593
medicine or something else to

2680
01:31:30,009 --> 01:31:30,259
end their own pregnancy.

2681
01:31:31,776 --> 01:31:32,026
I hope that helps

2682
01:31:34,976 --> 01:31:35,226
it does help thank you so much

2683
01:31:36,476 --> 01:31:36,726
for that because I know there's

2684
01:31:37,176 --> 01:31:37,426
also even the distinction

2685
01:31:38,876 --> 01:31:39,126
between

2686
01:31:39,126 --> 01:31:39,376
in

2687
01:31:42,509 --> 01:31:42,759
a medical abortion and a D andC

2688
01:31:43,209 --> 01:31:43,459
and again because what the

2689
01:31:44,976 --> 01:31:45,226
medical community uses and what

2690
01:31:47,143 --> 01:31:47,393
we use just as laymen are

2691
01:31:50,843 --> 01:31:51,093
often muddles the issue so

2692
01:31:51,376 --> 01:31:51,626
thank you for that

2693
01:31:54,709 --> 01:31:54,959
my next question is obviously

2694
01:31:56,709 --> 01:31:56,959
this is a concern. I mean it

2695
01:31:57,309 --> 01:31:57,559
remains a concern that some of

2696
01:31:57,976 --> 01:31:58,226
the most

2697
01:32:00,843 --> 01:32:01,093
personal and sensitive

2698
01:32:01,309 --> 01:32:01,559
experiences that women

2699
01:32:04,976 --> 01:32:05,226
will have in their lifetime

2700
01:32:06,676 --> 01:32:06,926
always comes up for you know

2701
01:32:09,043 --> 01:32:09,293
government and other people to

2702
01:32:09,743 --> 01:32:09,993
believe that

2703
01:32:13,043 --> 01:32:13,293
it's their business and and so

2704
01:32:14,976 --> 01:32:15,226
my questions when I see that

2705
01:32:18,776 --> 01:32:19,026
concern about repealing this

2706
01:32:21,009 --> 01:32:21,259
because of again miscarriages

2707
01:32:23,276 --> 01:32:23,526
and stillbirths. I I wanna ask

2708
01:32:24,676 --> 01:32:24,926
two other scenarios

2709
01:32:28,976 --> 01:32:29,226
just so that so I understand

2710
01:32:30,509 --> 01:32:30,759
or others understand the breadth

2711
01:32:33,009 --> 01:32:33,259
of where this this could go

2712
01:32:34,509 --> 01:32:34,759
would you believe that there

2713
01:32:35,243 --> 01:32:35,493
would be a concern for again

2714
01:32:38,476 --> 01:32:38,726
there are oftentimes a

2715
01:32:39,409 --> 01:32:39,659
stillbirth but often as well as

2716
01:32:40,076 --> 01:32:40,326
when

2717
01:32:44,476 --> 01:32:44,726
the child is born and then in

2718
01:32:45,243 --> 01:32:45,493
immediate death after birth

2719
01:32:46,676 --> 01:32:46,926
whether it's

2720
01:32:50,976 --> 01:32:51,226
you know our days sometimes and

2721
01:32:52,976 --> 01:32:53,226
as well as do you believe this

2722
01:32:54,943 --> 01:32:55,193
could potentially impact like

2723
01:32:56,743 --> 01:32:56,993
private closed adoptions where

2724
01:32:58,776 --> 01:32:59,026
again a girl or a woman has a

2725
01:33:00,776 --> 01:33:01,026
baby choosing to put that baby

2726
01:33:01,443 --> 01:33:01,693
up for adoption

2727
01:33:04,976 --> 01:33:05,226
concealing that because that

2728
01:33:06,976 --> 01:33:07,226
is you know their private right

2729
01:33:09,376 --> 01:33:09,626
and and business do do you see

2730
01:33:10,076 --> 01:33:10,326
where it could impact that as

2731
01:33:10,743 --> 01:33:10,993
well

2732
01:33:13,676 --> 01:33:13,926
I'm really glad you asked those

2733
01:33:14,776 --> 01:33:15,026
questions because in fact we

2734
01:33:17,309 --> 01:33:17,559
have seen impact in both both

2735
01:33:21,009 --> 01:33:21,259
kinds of circumstances so the

2736
01:33:22,743 --> 01:33:22,993
woman that whose conviction

2737
01:33:24,743 --> 01:33:24,993
was overturned in Arkansas had

2738
01:33:26,743 --> 01:33:26,993
in fact not concealed the birth

2739
01:33:29,043 --> 01:33:29,293
of her stillborn baby from

2740
01:33:30,743 --> 01:33:30,993
the hospital or for medical

2741
01:33:33,043 --> 01:33:33,293
providers but she had not

2742
01:33:34,743 --> 01:33:34,993
told her mother whom she lived

2743
01:33:36,476 --> 01:33:36,726
with that she was pregnant and

2744
01:33:37,509 --> 01:33:37,759
that was the basis for her

2745
01:33:41,143 --> 01:33:41,393
conviction and the Arkansas

2746
01:33:41,709 --> 01:33:41,959
Court of appppeals took issue

2747
01:33:44,843 --> 01:33:45,093
with that but the jury

2748
01:33:46,509 --> 01:33:46,759
unfortunately did not so she had

2749
01:33:47,209 --> 01:33:47,459
to go through this terrible

2750
01:33:48,509 --> 01:33:48,759
proceeding and really because

2751
01:33:49,243 --> 01:33:49,493
she was just her plan was to

2752
01:33:51,009 --> 01:33:51,259
give this baby up for adoption.

2753
01:33:52,776 --> 01:33:53,026
she had another child she was

2754
01:33:54,476 --> 01:33:54,726
taken care of and she was afraid

2755
01:33:55,276 --> 01:33:55,526
she'd lose her housing if she

2756
01:33:57,009 --> 01:33:57,259
informed her mother that she

2757
01:33:58,509 --> 01:33:58,759
was pregnant and having another

2758
01:33:59,209 --> 01:33:59,459
baby so she had been hiding that

2759
01:33:59,876 --> 01:34:00,126
fact from her

2760
01:34:02,743 --> 01:34:02,993
and then as to the other

2761
01:34:04,509 --> 01:34:04,759
situation yes we have seen

2762
01:34:06,509 --> 01:34:06,759
people accused of doing

2763
01:34:09,009 --> 01:34:09,259
something or accused accused

2764
01:34:10,476 --> 01:34:10,726
essentially when they've had a

2765
01:34:11,209 --> 01:34:11,459
stillbirth that the that the

2766
01:34:13,209 --> 01:34:13,459
baby was born alive and wasn't a

2767
01:34:15,176 --> 01:34:15,426
stillbirth and what that looks

2768
01:34:17,243 --> 01:34:17,493
like in our cases typically

2769
01:34:18,976 --> 01:34:19,226
we have to make sure that we

2770
01:34:22,743 --> 01:34:22,993
have evidence to show that

2771
01:34:23,343 --> 01:34:23,593
in fact this was a stillbirth

2772
01:34:24,976 --> 01:34:25,226
and no one did anything untoward

2773
01:34:27,209 --> 01:34:27,459
it was just a tragic loss

2774
01:34:29,076 --> 01:34:29,326
what that means is a great deal

2775
01:34:29,743 --> 01:34:29,993
of expense forensic

2776
01:34:33,209 --> 01:34:33,459
pathologists etc. so defending

2777
01:34:34,743 --> 01:34:34,993
people costs a significant

2778
01:34:36,509 --> 01:34:36,759
amount of money in order to

2779
01:34:38,943 --> 01:34:39,193
defend them as they deserve

2780
01:34:40,976 --> 01:34:41,226
and yes as you pointed out in

2781
01:34:42,743 --> 01:34:42,993
every one of these situations

2782
01:34:44,709 --> 01:34:44,959
someone is experiencing

2783
01:34:46,543 --> 01:34:46,793
something very private that

2784
01:34:48,509 --> 01:34:48,759
in almost every state is simply

2785
01:34:49,176 --> 01:34:49,426
not the subject of the criminal

2786
01:34:49,876 --> 01:34:50,126
legal system.

2787
01:34:51,443 --> 01:34:51,693
Quick follow up here

2788
01:34:54,743 --> 01:34:54,993
thank you for that. I'd also

2789
01:34:56,743 --> 01:34:56,993
as we're discussing this it also

2790
01:34:58,843 --> 01:34:59,093
my concern would also stretch to

2791
01:34:59,509 --> 01:34:59,759
to

2792
01:35:02,743 --> 01:35:02,993
to women who choose to carry

2793
01:35:04,509 --> 01:35:04,759
babies for other people to be a

2794
01:35:05,209 --> 01:35:05,459
surrogate and again

2795
01:35:10,743 --> 01:35:10,993
that's a beautiful choice but

2796
01:35:12,509 --> 01:35:12,759
it's it's something that people

2797
01:35:13,209 --> 01:35:13,459
may want to keep private so I

2798
01:35:14,976 --> 01:35:15,226
just want to make sure that

2799
01:35:16,509 --> 01:35:16,759
we're considering all of the

2800
01:35:17,076 --> 01:35:17,326
scenarios around

2801
01:35:20,809 --> 01:35:21,059
pregnancy and childbirth and so

2802
01:35:21,509 --> 01:35:21,759
thank you for that.

2803
01:35:25,543 --> 01:35:25,793
right senator wynn

2804
01:35:30,676 --> 01:35:30,926
thank you for the presentation.

2805
01:35:31,343 --> 01:35:31,593
obviouslybviously

2806
01:35:36,776 --> 01:35:37,026
I I have some questions and

2807
01:35:38,509 --> 01:35:38,759
concerns about some other

2808
01:35:39,309 --> 01:35:39,559
potential examples when you look

2809
01:35:40,009 --> 01:35:40,259
at the current

2810
01:35:44,976 --> 01:35:45,226
state of the statute that only

2811
01:35:45,643 --> 01:35:45,893
exists here in the state of

2812
01:35:46,709 --> 01:35:46,959
Nevada

2813
01:35:50,843 --> 01:35:51,093
could this potentially

2814
01:35:51,276 --> 01:35:51,526
criminalize

2815
01:35:53,276 --> 01:35:53,526
and look at the actions of all

2816
01:35:54,976 --> 01:35:55,226
pregnant women that maybe don't

2817
01:35:57,176 --> 01:35:57,426
have access to prenatal care or

2818
01:36:00,743 --> 01:36:00,993
prenatal education or other

2819
01:36:03,443 --> 01:36:03,693
resources is there anything

2820
01:36:05,276 --> 01:36:05,526
it would could potentially cover

2821
01:36:07,243 --> 01:36:07,493
someone who takes advil not

2822
01:36:08,776 --> 01:36:09,026
realizing you're not supposed to

2823
01:36:09,443 --> 01:36:09,693
take ibuprofen when you're

2824
01:36:10,009 --> 01:36:10,259
pregnant

2825
01:36:13,076 --> 01:36:13,326
because they get a headache.

2826
01:36:13,643 --> 01:36:13,893
isn't that correct?

2827
01:36:18,743 --> 01:36:18,993
it is absolutely correct and it

2828
01:36:19,409 --> 01:36:19,659
is in line with the things that

2829
01:36:21,209 --> 01:36:21,459
we have seen and around the

2830
01:36:22,976 --> 01:36:23,226
country and other states while

2831
01:36:24,943 --> 01:36:25,193
you know the statute has very

2832
01:36:26,743 --> 01:36:26,993
specific language and you might

2833
01:36:28,743 --> 01:36:28,993
say well it's cabined at post 24

2834
01:36:30,709 --> 01:36:30,959
weeks it's cabined it at a

2835
01:36:32,509 --> 01:36:32,759
medication. The fact is is that

2836
01:36:33,209 --> 01:36:33,459
medication is not defined in the

2837
01:36:35,176 --> 01:36:35,426
statute. it could include all

2838
01:36:37,176 --> 01:36:37,426
kinds of things and we know

2839
01:36:39,176 --> 01:36:39,426
that people often harshly

2840
01:36:41,176 --> 01:36:41,426
judge pregnant women for using

2841
01:36:42,776 --> 01:36:43,026
certain things during pregnancy

2842
01:36:44,543 --> 01:36:44,793
or even what they eat or how

2843
01:36:45,143 --> 01:36:45,393
they exercise and so we have

2844
01:36:45,809 --> 01:36:46,059
seen

2845
01:36:48,743 --> 01:36:48,993
in fact prosecutions look at

2846
01:36:50,743 --> 01:36:50,993
what people have done as if it

2847
01:36:52,509 --> 01:36:52,759
were sometimes a criminal act

2848
01:36:54,476 --> 01:36:54,726
even when it is clearly not and

2849
01:36:56,476 --> 01:36:56,726
also 24 weeks it has to be

2850
01:36:57,176 --> 01:36:57,426
proved right it's a fact it's an

2851
01:36:59,176 --> 01:36:59,426
element of the statute so

2852
01:37:01,009 --> 01:37:01,259
somebody who might be near that

2853
01:37:02,876 --> 01:37:03,126
might not be near that but still

2854
01:37:03,576 --> 01:37:03,826
come under

2855
01:37:06,543 --> 01:37:06,793
investigation or prosecution

2856
01:37:07,109 --> 01:37:07,359
so it's a it's a very dangerous

2857
01:37:09,176 --> 01:37:09,426
statute for both the people's

2858
01:37:10,943 --> 01:37:11,193
explicitly seems to target but

2859
01:37:12,476 --> 01:37:12,726
for everyone else that could

2860
01:37:13,076 --> 01:37:13,326
fall under its gamut.

2861
01:37:14,676 --> 01:37:14,926
thank you

2862
01:37:19,609 --> 01:37:19,859
Other questions here in Las

2863
01:37:20,176 --> 01:37:20,426
Vegas?

2864
01:37:25,043 --> 01:37:25,293
not seeing any we will go to

2865
01:37:26,843 --> 01:37:27,093
carson City any questions?

2866
01:37:29,376 --> 01:37:29,626
not seeing any and on zoom

2867
01:37:34,743 --> 01:37:34,993
right not seeing any thank you

2868
01:37:35,376 --> 01:37:35,626
so much again for your

2869
01:37:37,009 --> 01:37:37,259
presentation and for answering

2870
01:37:39,043 --> 01:37:39,293
all of our questions that will

2871
01:37:41,076 --> 01:37:41,326
close out agenda item number4

2872
01:37:43,043 --> 01:37:43,293
and take us to agenda item

2873
01:37:45,043 --> 01:37:45,293
number6. the moment you have all

2874
01:37:46,776 --> 01:37:47,026
been waiting for our work

2875
01:37:49,043 --> 01:37:49,293
session at this time I will turn

2876
01:37:51,043 --> 01:37:51,293
it over to our illustrious

2877
01:37:53,043 --> 01:37:53,293
policy analyst Mrelgarejo to

2878
01:37:54,743 --> 01:37:54,993
walk us through the work session

2879
01:37:55,409 --> 01:37:55,659
document

2880
01:38:00,509 --> 01:38:00,759
you for the recordesarmogarejo

2881
01:38:01,143 --> 01:38:01,393
committee policy analyst and

2882
01:38:02,809 --> 01:38:03,059
senior principal policy analyst

2883
01:38:04,743 --> 01:38:04,993
with the sear division of the

2884
01:38:06,776 --> 01:38:07,026
legislative co bureau as no

2885
01:38:08,776 --> 01:38:09,026
nonpartisan staff I can neither

2886
01:38:10,743 --> 01:38:10,993
advocate for nor against a

2887
01:38:12,509 --> 01:38:12,759
measure that comes before this

2888
01:38:13,276 --> 01:38:13,526
committee and the work session

2889
01:38:15,276 --> 01:38:15,526
document which is available to

2890
01:38:17,043 --> 01:38:17,293
the public here and we have

2891
01:38:18,809 --> 01:38:19,059
printed copies and available

2892
01:38:20,809 --> 01:38:21,059
online is designed to assist the

2893
01:38:21,576 --> 01:38:21,826
committee in determining the

2894
01:38:24,543 --> 01:38:24,793
actions it wishes to take the

2895
01:38:25,143 --> 01:38:25,393
committee may vote to approve

2896
01:38:25,776 --> 01:38:26,026
the recommendations as provided

2897
01:38:26,476 --> 01:38:26,726
in the work session

2898
01:38:29,009 --> 01:38:29,259
document, approve it with

2899
01:38:30,776 --> 01:38:31,026
amendments combined

2900
01:38:31,276 --> 01:38:31,526
recommendations where

2901
01:38:34,509 --> 01:38:34,759
appropriate or take no action as

2902
01:38:35,309 --> 01:38:35,559
a reminder the committee can

2903
01:38:36,743 --> 01:38:36,993
request1f legislative measures

2904
01:38:39,276 --> 01:38:39,526
uh10 related to the judiciary

2905
01:38:42,543 --> 01:38:42,793
generally and not more than5 may

2906
01:38:43,276 --> 01:38:43,526
relate to juvenile justice

2907
01:38:46,709 --> 01:38:46,959
issues the committee can also

2908
01:38:49,043 --> 01:38:49,293
request or approve sending

2909
01:38:51,043 --> 01:38:51,293
letters or place a position

2910
01:38:52,776 --> 01:38:53,026
statement in the final report to

2911
01:38:54,743 --> 01:38:54,993
address specific topics there is

2912
01:38:55,509 --> 01:38:55,759
no limitation in number of

2913
01:38:56,076 --> 01:38:56,326
letters or position statements

2914
01:38:56,776 --> 01:38:57,026
that the committee

2915
01:39:00,509 --> 01:39:00,759
may adopt Cheiro present the

2916
01:39:01,176 --> 01:39:01,426
recommendations in the order

2917
01:39:01,743 --> 01:39:01,993
which they appear

2918
01:39:03,309 --> 01:39:03,559
the first recommendation

2919
01:39:07,276 --> 01:39:07,526
requests the drafting

2920
01:39:09,076 --> 01:39:09,326
legislation to authorize jails

2921
01:39:11,276 --> 01:39:11,526
in and detention facilities to

2922
01:39:12,776 --> 01:39:13,026
create a voluntary delayed

2923
01:39:14,809 --> 01:39:15,059
release program for individuals

2924
01:39:16,809 --> 01:39:17,059
released from jail or detention

2925
01:39:18,509 --> 01:39:18,759
facilities during overnight

2926
01:39:20,509 --> 01:39:20,759
hours. the recommendation

2927
01:39:21,043 --> 01:39:21,293
includes three components

2928
01:39:23,309 --> 01:39:23,559
outlined in paragraphs A1

2929
01:39:25,143 --> 01:39:25,393
through A3 ensure that concludes

2930
01:39:25,809 --> 01:39:26,059
recommendation number one

2931
01:39:30,509 --> 01:39:30,759
right. any questions on

2932
01:39:31,076 --> 01:39:31,326
recommendation number one

2933
01:39:34,776 --> 01:39:35,026
not seeing any I would accept a

2934
01:39:37,276 --> 01:39:37,526
motion to approve we we have a

2935
01:39:39,043 --> 01:39:39,293
motion from vicechair Miller. we

2936
01:39:40,776 --> 01:39:41,026
have a second from Senator

2937
01:39:41,343 --> 01:39:41,593
Wwynnn any discussion on the

2938
01:39:41,876 --> 01:39:42,126
motion

2939
01:39:45,443 --> 01:39:45,693
not seeing any all in favor say

2940
01:39:47,176 --> 01:39:47,426
aye i and he opposed it

2941
01:39:52,509 --> 01:39:52,759
all right passes unanimously we

2942
01:39:54,509 --> 01:39:54,759
will approve a recommendation

2943
01:39:55,176 --> 01:39:55,426
number one and move to

2944
01:39:55,709 --> 01:39:55,959
recommendation number 2.

2945
01:39:59,343 --> 01:39:59,593
thank you chair for the record

2946
01:40:00,776 --> 01:40:01,026
saysaruggaro community policy

2947
01:40:02,776 --> 01:40:03,026
analyst next recommendation

2948
01:40:05,009 --> 01:40:05,259
recommendation number 2

2949
01:40:06,743 --> 01:40:06,993
requests drafting legislation

2950
01:40:07,443 --> 01:40:07,693
concerning the definition used

2951
01:40:10,509 --> 01:40:10,759
oversight and reporting of

2952
01:40:11,243 --> 01:40:11,493
solitary confinement in Nevada

2953
01:40:13,009 --> 01:40:13,259
correctional facilities. the

2954
01:40:14,509 --> 01:40:14,759
recommendation includes six

2955
01:40:15,209 --> 01:40:15,459
components outlined in

2956
01:40:17,243 --> 01:40:17,493
paragraphs A through F ensure

2957
01:40:17,876 --> 01:40:18,126
that concludes recommendation

2958
01:40:18,543 --> 01:40:18,793
number 2.

2959
01:40:22,843 --> 01:40:23,093
any questions on this

2960
01:40:23,309 --> 01:40:23,559
recommendation

2961
01:40:27,043 --> 01:40:27,293
not seeing any I would accept a

2962
01:40:28,776 --> 01:40:29,026
motion to approve so

2963
01:40:31,009 --> 01:40:31,259
we have a motion from vicechair

2964
01:40:32,809 --> 01:40:33,059
Miller. we have a second from

2965
01:40:33,643 --> 01:40:33,893
Senatorwynn any discussion on

2966
01:40:34,309 --> 01:40:34,559
the motion?

2967
01:40:38,509 --> 01:40:38,759
not seeing any all in favor

2968
01:40:39,409 --> 01:40:39,659
sayii and he opposed

2969
01:40:43,009 --> 01:40:43,259
all right sounds like a

2970
01:40:44,509 --> 01:40:44,759
unanimous passage of

2971
01:40:46,509 --> 01:40:46,759
recommendation number 2 as well

2972
01:40:47,276 --> 01:40:47,526
and that will take us to

2973
01:40:48,809 --> 01:40:49,059
recommendation number3.

2974
01:40:52,776 --> 01:40:53,026
for the recordsarcreittee policy

2975
01:40:54,776 --> 01:40:55,026
analysts recommendation number3

2976
01:40:56,743 --> 01:40:56,993
requests the drafting of two

2977
01:40:58,743 --> 01:40:58,993
individual letters the first a

2978
01:41:00,509 --> 01:41:00,759
letter concerns access to

2979
01:41:02,476 --> 01:41:02,726
counsel for persons in custody

2980
01:41:03,476 --> 01:41:03,726
and second letter addresses

2981
01:41:05,276 --> 01:41:05,526
funding to reduce a reliance on

2982
01:41:07,276 --> 01:41:07,526
solitary confinement the

2983
01:41:09,043 --> 01:41:09,293
recommendation includes the two

2984
01:41:10,776 --> 01:41:11,026
components the two letters which

2985
01:41:12,676 --> 01:41:12,926
are outlined in progress A and B

2986
01:41:13,376 --> 01:41:13,626
and chair that concludes

2987
01:41:17,409 --> 01:41:17,659
any questions on this

2988
01:41:17,843 --> 01:41:18,093
recommendation?

2989
01:41:21,009 --> 01:41:21,259
I don't see any so I would

2990
01:41:23,043 --> 01:41:23,293
accept a motion to approve so

2991
01:41:25,309 --> 01:41:25,559
we have a motion from vicechair

2992
01:41:26,976 --> 01:41:27,226
Miller and a second from Senator

2993
01:41:27,709 --> 01:41:27,959
Wwynn any discussion on the

2994
01:41:28,276 --> 01:41:28,526
motion

2995
01:41:31,009 --> 01:41:31,259
on not seeing any all in favor

2996
01:41:32,709 --> 01:41:32,959
say aye ii

2997
01:41:35,176 --> 01:41:35,426
any opposed nay

2998
01:41:38,743 --> 01:41:38,993
all right that takes that

2999
01:41:41,009 --> 01:41:41,259
we've approved this

3000
01:41:42,676 --> 01:41:42,926
recommendation that takes us to

3001
01:41:43,343 --> 01:41:43,593
the next recommendation

3002
01:41:46,509 --> 01:41:46,759
chair for the record

3003
01:41:49,009 --> 01:41:49,259
Caesarcrejoun policy analyst

3004
01:41:51,043 --> 01:41:51,293
the fourth recommendation

3005
01:41:52,776 --> 01:41:53,026
requests drafting legislation to

3006
01:41:54,776 --> 01:41:55,026
recognize certified domestic

3007
01:41:56,743 --> 01:41:56,993
violence advocates as qualified

3008
01:41:57,543 --> 01:41:57,793
third parties who may sign

3009
01:41:59,043 --> 01:41:59,293
affidavits supporting lease

3010
01:42:01,043 --> 01:42:01,293
termination chair that

3011
01:42:01,509 --> 01:42:01,759
concludes recommendation

3012
01:42:02,076 --> 01:42:02,326
number4.

3013
01:42:08,509 --> 01:42:08,759
right. I think we have a

3014
01:42:09,043 --> 01:42:09,293
question from assembly

3015
01:42:09,509 --> 01:42:09,759
memberhansen go ahead.

3016
01:42:13,043 --> 01:42:13,293
thank you chair. I just wanted

3017
01:42:14,976 --> 01:42:15,226
to see if we could get someone

3018
01:42:19,009 --> 01:42:19,259
to clarify what is exactly

3019
01:42:21,009 --> 01:42:21,259
does it mean a certified

3020
01:42:22,743 --> 01:42:22,993
domestic violence advocate like

3021
01:42:25,243 --> 01:42:25,493
what are the qualifications to

3022
01:42:27,209 --> 01:42:27,459
qualify them to be one of those

3023
01:42:27,909 --> 01:42:28,159
third parties.

3024
01:42:32,543 --> 01:42:32,793
great question, I'm going to go

3025
01:42:33,243 --> 01:42:33,493
to the legal first

3026
01:42:35,409 --> 01:42:35,659
if they can answer that question

3027
01:42:39,343 --> 01:42:39,593
give us just a moment

3028
01:42:43,476 --> 01:42:43,726
thank you chair

3029
01:42:46,976 --> 01:42:47,226
Bradley Wilkinson committee

3030
01:42:47,643 --> 01:42:47,893
counsel

3031
01:42:50,943 --> 01:42:51,193
you know that is a good question

3032
01:42:53,209 --> 01:42:53,459
and we were hoping to hear from

3033
01:42:56,476 --> 01:42:56,726
Mr Horn today to see exactly

3034
01:42:57,209 --> 01:42:57,459
what they have in mind because

3035
01:43:01,009 --> 01:43:01,259
it was not clear to us who

3036
01:43:01,576 --> 01:43:01,826
those people are

3037
01:43:07,143 --> 01:43:07,393
would it be fair to say Mr

3038
01:43:08,976 --> 01:43:09,226
Wilkinson that even if we

3039
01:43:11,209 --> 01:43:11,459
approve the BDr today we could

3040
01:43:13,209 --> 01:43:13,459
further clarify in the drafting

3041
01:43:14,643 --> 01:43:14,893
process what those

3042
01:43:17,243 --> 01:43:17,493
qualifications would be in order

3043
01:43:18,743 --> 01:43:18,993
to become certified and we could

3044
01:43:21,176 --> 01:43:21,426
work with the coalition and

3045
01:43:24,643 --> 01:43:24,893
legal staff to draft

3046
01:43:25,143 --> 01:43:25,393
requirements

3047
01:43:29,176 --> 01:43:29,426
chair that that is all quite

3048
01:43:29,776 --> 01:43:30,026
true we would certainly do that

3049
01:43:33,009 --> 01:43:33,259
just as a matter of drafting

3050
01:43:34,843 --> 01:43:35,093
to you know make sure we nail

3051
01:43:35,509 --> 01:43:35,759
down exactly

3052
01:43:35,843 --> 01:43:36,093
the

3053
01:43:39,109 --> 01:43:39,359
definition that we want to use

3054
01:43:39,809 --> 01:43:40,059
for that term

3055
01:43:44,743 --> 01:43:44,993
Thank you and I think you had

3056
01:43:46,709 --> 01:43:46,959
mentioned that this was a

3057
01:43:49,176 --> 01:43:49,426
recommendation from Safenest

3058
01:43:50,743 --> 01:43:50,993
I don't know if they have

3059
01:43:51,343 --> 01:43:51,593
somebody here today who can

3060
01:43:53,243 --> 01:43:53,493
answer those questions. I will

3061
01:43:55,209 --> 01:43:55,459
tell you all I told all of our

3062
01:43:57,009 --> 01:43:57,259
presenters that we didn't need

3063
01:43:58,943 --> 01:43:59,193
them to come back today so

3064
01:44:03,209 --> 01:44:03,459
I I do see somebody who's

3065
01:44:05,176 --> 01:44:05,426
thinking about coming forward to

3066
01:44:05,843 --> 01:44:06,093
answer a question

3067
01:44:12,559 --> 01:44:12,809
so it looks like he's decided to

3068
01:44:13,176 --> 01:44:13,426
come forward and

3069
01:44:17,243 --> 01:44:17,493
give us some shed some light on

3070
01:44:17,876 --> 01:44:18,126
this so thank you Mr Horn

3071
01:44:24,559 --> 01:44:24,809
good morning good morning madam

3072
01:44:25,176 --> 01:44:25,426
chair members of the committee

3073
01:44:26,509 --> 01:44:26,759
for the record my name is

3074
01:44:27,243 --> 01:44:27,493
William Horn of western Public

3075
01:44:30,509 --> 01:44:30,759
affairs representing Safeest and

3076
01:44:32,743 --> 01:44:32,993
yes unfortunately Miss

3077
01:44:34,743 --> 01:44:34,993
Ortenberger is traveling through

3078
01:44:36,876 --> 01:44:37,126
the state right now driving so

3079
01:44:40,743 --> 01:44:40,993
I don't have the exact

3080
01:44:42,543 --> 01:44:42,793
definition of what the a

3081
01:44:44,976 --> 01:44:45,226
certified advocate is at this

3082
01:44:47,243 --> 01:44:47,493
time we we definitely will

3083
01:44:50,743 --> 01:44:50,993
work with uhlCB on on getting

3084
01:44:53,209 --> 01:44:53,459
that but these are advocates

3085
01:44:54,876 --> 01:44:55,126
who worked directly with

3086
01:44:58,776 --> 01:44:59,026
victims of domestic violence

3087
01:45:02,509 --> 01:45:02,759
in in our court system etc and

3088
01:45:04,743 --> 01:45:04,993
they are they are trained I

3089
01:45:05,309 --> 01:45:05,559
don't know what the

3090
01:45:07,243 --> 01:45:07,493
certification process exactly is

3091
01:45:10,509 --> 01:45:10,759
but they are trained and

3092
01:45:12,543 --> 01:45:12,793
then they would provide be able

3093
01:45:15,043 --> 01:45:15,293
to give those affidavits signed

3094
01:45:17,009 --> 01:45:17,259
for those affidavits to prevent

3095
01:45:20,509 --> 01:45:20,759
these survivors from being

3096
01:45:22,809 --> 01:45:23,059
evicted etc. and doing it so

3097
01:45:24,876 --> 01:45:25,126
that's the purpose of this

3098
01:45:25,409 --> 01:45:25,659
request for a BDr

3099
01:45:26,743 --> 01:45:26,993
and

3100
01:45:28,709 --> 01:45:28,959
we will narrow that definition

3101
01:45:29,409 --> 01:45:29,659
down

3102
01:45:30,676 --> 01:45:30,926
during the

3103
01:45:32,676 --> 01:45:32,926
drafting process madam

3104
01:45:37,609 --> 01:45:37,859
thank you so much

3105
01:45:43,009 --> 01:45:43,259
right unless we have further

3106
01:45:43,643 --> 01:45:43,893
questions from Carson City

3107
01:45:47,243 --> 01:45:47,493
I will come back down here to

3108
01:45:48,709 --> 01:45:48,959
Las Vegas and vice

3109
01:45:49,143 --> 01:45:49,393
chairirmier

3110
01:45:52,776 --> 01:45:53,026
thank you chair. my question

3111
01:45:54,976 --> 01:45:55,226
is who currently has the legal

3112
01:45:57,209 --> 01:45:57,459
ability to sign these affidavits

3113
01:45:59,276 --> 01:45:59,526
for lease termination eviction

3114
01:46:01,109 --> 01:46:01,359
protection and emergency

3115
01:46:01,676 --> 01:46:01,926
relocation

3116
01:46:07,009 --> 01:46:07,259
for the record William Horn

3117
01:46:10,509 --> 01:46:10,759
is is my understanding is that

3118
01:46:13,043 --> 01:46:13,293
it or is the survivors that

3119
01:46:15,243 --> 01:46:15,493
are submitting these affidavits

3120
01:46:15,876 --> 01:46:16,126
and it's not always

3121
01:46:22,743 --> 01:46:22,993
they're readily available or

3122
01:46:24,509 --> 01:46:24,759
it's a traumatic experience for

3123
01:46:25,376 --> 01:46:25,626
them etc.

3124
01:46:29,243 --> 01:46:29,493
and seeking these affidavits

3125
01:46:31,309 --> 01:46:31,559
also if you put yourself in

3126
01:46:35,376 --> 01:46:35,626
the position of the landlord for

3127
01:46:37,009 --> 01:46:37,259
instance and you have your

3128
01:46:39,309 --> 01:46:39,559
tenant saying that I'm a

3129
01:46:41,009 --> 01:46:41,259
survivor of domestic violence

3130
01:46:43,076 --> 01:46:43,326
that's why you know I signed

3131
01:46:44,843 --> 01:46:45,093
this affidavit that you and I

3132
01:46:45,509 --> 01:46:45,759
don't wish to be evicted at this

3133
01:46:46,209 --> 01:46:46,459
time

3134
01:46:48,676 --> 01:46:48,926
if you have a third party doing

3135
01:46:49,343 --> 01:46:49,593
it

3136
01:46:52,509 --> 01:46:52,759
saying yes we were part of

3137
01:46:54,976 --> 01:46:55,226
this proceeding etc we're

3138
01:46:57,309 --> 01:46:57,559
working with this person

3139
01:47:00,743 --> 01:47:00,993
and I'm signing this affidavit

3140
01:47:03,276 --> 01:47:03,526
attesting to these facts that

3141
01:47:06,509 --> 01:47:06,759
this person fits within the

3142
01:47:07,576 --> 01:47:07,826
protections of being evicted.

3143
01:47:12,543 --> 01:47:12,793
I think legal might also be able

3144
01:47:13,243 --> 01:47:13,493
to weigh in here

3145
01:47:13,643 --> 01:47:13,893
thank you Mr Horn

3146
01:47:22,843 --> 01:47:23,093
Thank youir. yes there

3147
01:47:26,509 --> 01:47:26,759
are a number of ways you can

3148
01:47:28,476 --> 01:47:28,726
provide the that the victim

3149
01:47:30,743 --> 01:47:30,993
can provide the necessary

3150
01:47:32,709 --> 01:47:32,959
proof in the written notice

3151
01:47:33,309 --> 01:47:33,559
that's given to the landlord

3152
01:47:36,876 --> 01:47:37,126
and that's in Nrs118.345

3153
01:47:40,909 --> 01:47:41,159
one of one thing would be

3154
01:47:41,476 --> 01:47:41,726
copy of the

3155
01:47:42,843 --> 01:47:43,093
order for protection

3156
01:47:46,509 --> 01:47:46,759
another is a copy of a

3157
01:47:47,209 --> 01:47:47,459
written report from a law

3158
01:47:47,743 --> 01:47:47,993
enforcement agency

3159
01:47:50,709 --> 01:47:50,959
and then the third one is the

3160
01:47:51,376 --> 01:47:51,626
written affidavit

3161
01:47:54,509 --> 01:47:54,759
in the correct format that's

3162
01:47:55,309 --> 01:47:55,559
signed by a qualified third

3163
01:47:55,876 --> 01:47:56,126
party

3164
01:47:59,009 --> 01:47:59,259
and then qualified third

3165
01:48:01,276 --> 01:48:01,526
parties actually defined in the

3166
01:48:03,276 --> 01:48:03,526
statute as a physician licensed

3167
01:48:05,176 --> 01:48:05,426
to practice in the state a

3168
01:48:05,743 --> 01:48:05,993
psychiatrist

3169
01:48:07,843 --> 01:48:08,093
licensed to practice a

3170
01:48:08,309 --> 01:48:08,559
psychologist

3171
01:48:10,943 --> 01:48:11,193
social worker registered nurse

3172
01:48:13,243 --> 01:48:13,493
marriage and family therapist

3173
01:48:14,943 --> 01:48:15,193
or

3174
01:48:19,243 --> 01:48:19,493
most jump down heremember the

3175
01:48:21,276 --> 01:48:21,526
clergy of a church or religious

3176
01:48:21,943 --> 01:48:22,193
society

3177
01:48:25,209 --> 01:48:25,459
and then the last one which

3178
01:48:28,476 --> 01:48:28,726
is that issue here is any person

3179
01:48:29,276 --> 01:48:29,526
who's employed by an agency or

3180
01:48:29,943 --> 01:48:30,193
service

3181
01:48:33,243 --> 01:48:33,493
which advises persons regarding

3182
01:48:35,209 --> 01:48:35,459
domestic violence or refers them

3183
01:48:36,509 --> 01:48:36,759
to persons or agencies where

3184
01:48:37,243 --> 01:48:37,493
they're requests and needs can

3185
01:48:39,209 --> 01:48:39,459
be met and who is licensed to

3186
01:48:40,976 --> 01:48:41,226
provide healthcare persuent to

3187
01:48:44,509 --> 01:48:44,759
the provisions of Title54 of Nrs

3188
01:48:45,209 --> 01:48:45,459
or as a member of the board of

3189
01:48:47,209 --> 01:48:47,459
directors or serves as the

3190
01:48:50,643 --> 01:48:50,893
executive director of the agency

3191
01:48:51,309 --> 01:48:51,559
or service

3192
01:48:53,243 --> 01:48:53,493
who's received training relating

3193
01:48:55,576 --> 01:48:55,826
to domestic violence and who's a

3194
01:48:56,243 --> 01:48:56,493
resident of the state

3195
01:49:00,776 --> 01:49:01,026
so that the agency is limited to

3196
01:49:02,776 --> 01:49:03,026
those people someone who's a

3197
01:49:04,476 --> 01:49:04,726
healthcare provider a member of

3198
01:49:05,543 --> 01:49:05,793
the board or the executive

3199
01:49:06,076 --> 01:49:06,326
director

3200
01:49:09,309 --> 01:49:09,559
and this proposal would expand

3201
01:49:09,976 --> 01:49:10,226
it to

3202
01:49:13,009 --> 01:49:13,259
the c certified domestic

3203
01:49:14,676 --> 01:49:14,926
violence advocate who could act

3204
01:49:15,343 --> 01:49:15,593
on

3205
01:49:16,676 --> 01:49:16,926
as the qualified third party

3206
01:49:22,876 --> 01:49:23,126
thank you for that

3207
01:49:26,776 --> 01:49:27,026
I look forward to hearing more

3208
01:49:29,009 --> 01:49:29,259
in regular session about the

3209
01:49:30,776 --> 01:49:31,026
qualifications and the training

3210
01:49:31,443 --> 01:49:31,693
around the certified

3211
01:49:31,909 --> 01:49:32,159
practitioners. Thank you.

3212
01:49:36,676 --> 01:49:36,926
right thank you everybody

3213
01:49:39,076 --> 01:49:39,326
unless there are further

3214
01:49:39,643 --> 01:49:39,893
questions

3215
01:49:42,876 --> 01:49:43,126
I would accept oh there are

3216
01:49:43,476 --> 01:49:43,726
was that

3217
01:49:47,009 --> 01:49:47,259
assembly memberhansen please go

3218
01:49:48,743 --> 01:49:48,993
ahead and I'm sorry this would

3219
01:49:51,043 --> 01:49:51,293
probably be more appropriate and

3220
01:49:52,776 --> 01:49:53,026
after the motion for discussion

3221
01:49:54,509 --> 01:49:54,759
on the motion but just to

3222
01:49:56,509 --> 01:49:56,759
clarify I I just really wanted

3223
01:49:57,276 --> 01:49:57,526
to I I'm in support of moving

3224
01:49:59,043 --> 01:49:59,293
this forward, of course that's

3225
01:50:00,776 --> 01:50:01,026
what's wonderful about this

3226
01:50:02,776 --> 01:50:03,026
process we we still have time we

3227
01:50:04,776 --> 01:50:05,026
have drafting we have the

3228
01:50:06,776 --> 01:50:07,026
session to vet and and get a lot

3229
01:50:08,543 --> 01:50:08,793
of these questions answered and

3230
01:50:09,243 --> 01:50:09,493
you know safeness and our

3231
01:50:12,509 --> 01:50:12,759
domestic violence advocates in

3232
01:50:13,409 --> 01:50:13,659
in the state of Nevada have been

3233
01:50:14,076 --> 01:50:14,326
so wonderful in doing some great

3234
01:50:16,109 --> 01:50:16,359
work and so

3235
01:50:20,509 --> 01:50:20,759
I I don't want to diminish them

3236
01:50:22,543 --> 01:50:22,793
their ability to be involved in

3237
01:50:24,976 --> 01:50:25,226
this that all I just a little

3238
01:50:28,509 --> 01:50:28,759
history we had this kind of a

3239
01:50:30,509 --> 01:50:30,759
situation with DI schools come

3240
01:50:31,276 --> 01:50:31,526
before us with a regulation

3241
01:50:34,776 --> 01:50:35,026
ateggecom that created quite a

3242
01:50:37,009 --> 01:50:37,259
kind of a problem so that's why

3243
01:50:38,809 --> 01:50:39,059
I'm being a little particular

3244
01:50:40,776 --> 01:50:41,026
about checking into these what

3245
01:50:42,543 --> 01:50:42,793
are the qualifications because

3246
01:50:44,776 --> 01:50:45,026
it could either hinder or it

3247
01:50:46,676 --> 01:50:46,926
could help and then how that

3248
01:50:47,343 --> 01:50:47,593
language really

3249
01:50:49,309 --> 01:50:49,559
lays out as super important

3250
01:50:52,509 --> 01:50:52,759
so that was what was behind is

3251
01:50:54,509 --> 01:50:54,759
I'm a little gun shy from a

3252
01:50:55,243 --> 01:50:55,493
regulation that kind of got

3253
01:50:57,276 --> 01:50:57,526
through that caused some issues

3254
01:50:59,276 --> 01:50:59,526
for my constituents and and

3255
01:51:01,043 --> 01:51:01,293
in the rural so thank you for

3256
01:51:03,043 --> 01:51:03,293
the indulgence and for letting

3257
01:51:05,009 --> 01:51:05,259
me be able to ask the question

3258
01:51:07,276 --> 01:51:07,526
and and put my support to move

3259
01:51:08,676 --> 01:51:08,926
the measure forward so far.

3260
01:51:09,243 --> 01:51:09,493
thank you.

3261
01:51:15,043 --> 01:51:15,293
right thank you so much. with

3262
01:51:16,776 --> 01:51:17,026
that I would accept a motion to

3263
01:51:17,609 --> 01:51:17,859
approve this recommendation

3264
01:51:21,009 --> 01:51:21,259
we have a motion from vicechair

3265
01:51:22,476 --> 01:51:22,726
Miller. we have a second from

3266
01:51:23,409 --> 01:51:23,659
Senator wynn. any discussion on

3267
01:51:24,076 --> 01:51:24,326
the motion?

3268
01:51:28,509 --> 01:51:28,759
not seeing any all in favor say

3269
01:51:31,176 --> 01:51:31,426
aye i posed nay

3270
01:51:34,976 --> 01:51:35,226
all right the motion carries to

3271
01:51:35,643 --> 01:51:35,893
approve this recommendation.

3272
01:51:37,643 --> 01:51:37,893
and that takes us to the next

3273
01:51:38,309 --> 01:51:38,559
recommendation

3274
01:51:41,243 --> 01:51:41,493
thank you chair for the record

3275
01:51:42,743 --> 01:51:42,993
staysarmug committee policy

3276
01:51:45,009 --> 01:51:45,259
analyst the fifth recommendation

3277
01:51:47,009 --> 01:51:47,259
requests drafting legislation

3278
01:51:48,743 --> 01:51:48,993
concerning safety standards and

3279
01:51:50,509 --> 01:51:50,759
regulation of electric bicycles,

3280
01:51:52,476 --> 01:51:52,726
electric scooters, electric

3281
01:51:53,209 --> 01:51:53,459
motorcycles and other electric

3282
01:51:54,776 --> 01:51:55,026
devices the recommendation

3283
01:51:56,543 --> 01:51:56,793
includes the seven components

3284
01:51:57,209 --> 01:51:57,459
outlined in paragraphs A through

3285
01:51:57,876 --> 01:51:58,126
G.

3286
01:51:59,076 --> 01:51:59,326
and chair

3287
01:52:06,743 --> 01:52:06,993
right. any questions on this

3288
01:52:09,009 --> 01:52:09,259
recommendation. This did come

3289
01:52:10,509 --> 01:52:10,759
out of the study that we

3290
01:52:12,776 --> 01:52:13,026
conducted pursuant to AB4 of the

3291
01:52:13,443 --> 01:52:13,693
special session

3292
01:52:16,843 --> 01:52:17,093
and I don't see any questions

3293
01:52:19,509 --> 01:52:19,759
so I would accept a motion to

3294
01:52:20,176 --> 01:52:20,426
approve

3295
01:52:23,276 --> 01:52:23,526
all right we have a motion from

3296
01:52:24,776 --> 01:52:25,026
vicechair Miller. we have a

3297
01:52:26,676 --> 01:52:26,926
second from Senatornwynn any

3298
01:52:27,343 --> 01:52:27,593
discussion on the motion?

3299
01:52:30,743 --> 01:52:30,993
not seeing any all in favor say

3300
01:52:31,443 --> 01:52:31,693
aye

3301
01:52:32,876 --> 01:52:33,126
i and a

3302
01:52:34,776 --> 01:52:35,026
all right I

3303
01:52:39,176 --> 01:52:39,426
we confirm with some gonzalez

3304
01:52:39,843 --> 01:52:40,093
that you're an i

3305
01:52:44,743 --> 01:52:44,993
yes thank you just want to make

3306
01:52:46,743 --> 01:52:46,993
sure we get our record correct

3307
01:52:49,009 --> 01:52:49,259
and we unanimously approved this

3308
01:52:50,676 --> 01:52:50,926
recommendation and that will

3309
01:52:51,209 --> 01:52:51,459
take us to the next

3310
01:52:51,676 --> 01:52:51,926
recommendation

3311
01:52:54,743 --> 01:52:54,993
chair for the record

3312
01:52:55,276 --> 01:52:55,526
Caesaruggarejo committee policy

3313
01:52:58,543 --> 01:52:58,793
analysts recommendation number6

3314
01:53:00,509 --> 01:53:00,759
request drafting legislation

3315
01:53:02,509 --> 01:53:02,759
concerning debtbased driver's

3316
01:53:03,276 --> 01:53:03,526
license suspensions and

3317
01:53:05,576 --> 01:53:05,826
supervision fees for persons on

3318
01:53:07,143 --> 01:53:07,393
parole, probation or residential

3319
01:53:07,809 --> 01:53:08,059
confinement

3320
01:53:11,243 --> 01:53:11,493
the recommendation includes

3321
01:53:13,009 --> 01:53:13,259
the two components outlined in

3322
01:53:14,643 --> 01:53:14,893
paragraphs A and B and chair

3323
01:53:15,309 --> 01:53:15,559
that conclude

3324
01:53:20,676 --> 01:53:20,926
Any questions on

3325
01:53:21,009 --> 01:53:21,259
recommendation6?

3326
01:53:23,343 --> 01:53:23,593
Yes, as a member cole

3327
01:53:28,509 --> 01:53:28,759
thank you chair so my

3328
01:53:28,976 --> 01:53:29,226
question is on the civil traffic

3329
01:53:30,976 --> 01:53:31,226
citations I don't remember what

3330
01:53:32,509 --> 01:53:32,759
year it was because I was not a

3331
01:53:33,243 --> 01:53:33,493
somebody person at the time but

3332
01:53:34,976 --> 01:53:35,226
fairly recently there was a

3333
01:53:38,509 --> 01:53:38,759
change where the the fees and

3334
01:53:39,109 --> 01:53:39,359
everything were associated with

3335
01:53:40,976 --> 01:53:41,226
a criminal violation rather than

3336
01:53:43,043 --> 01:53:43,293
a civil so is this meant to

3337
01:53:44,776 --> 01:53:45,026
eliminate things that were based

3338
01:53:46,509 --> 01:53:46,759
on criminal like in the past

3339
01:53:48,509 --> 01:53:48,759
we're going forward or how does

3340
01:53:50,676 --> 01:53:50,926
that work because currently a

3341
01:53:51,376 --> 01:53:51,626
civil would be reckless driving

3342
01:54:02,809 --> 01:54:03,059
I don't know if legal wants to

3343
01:54:03,476 --> 01:54:03,726
weigh in here or wants me to

3344
01:54:13,043 --> 01:54:13,293
I think the intention here oh go

3345
01:54:13,743 --> 01:54:13,993
ahead Mr Wilkinson

3346
01:54:17,109 --> 01:54:17,359
oh no that's ok you can you can

3347
01:54:17,776 --> 01:54:18,026
go ahead if you want.

3348
01:54:23,009 --> 01:54:23,259
when we did pass the bill to

3349
01:54:24,776 --> 01:54:25,026
decriminalize numerous

3350
01:54:27,009 --> 01:54:27,259
traffic citations. the intention

3351
01:54:28,743 --> 01:54:28,993
of the legislature and anybody

3352
01:54:29,443 --> 01:54:29,693
else who was there can correct

3353
01:54:31,209 --> 01:54:31,459
me if I'm wrong was also to

3354
01:54:34,509 --> 01:54:34,759
eliminate the revocation of

3355
01:54:35,243 --> 01:54:35,493
driver's license based on

3356
01:54:37,009 --> 01:54:37,259
somebody's failure to pay their

3357
01:54:39,009 --> 01:54:39,259
fines that bill was passed at

3358
01:54:42,543 --> 01:54:42,793
the same time as another bill

3359
01:54:44,509 --> 01:54:44,759
that did not include that

3360
01:54:46,509 --> 01:54:46,759
provision and so the purpose of

3361
01:54:47,676 --> 01:54:47,926
this recommendation is to

3362
01:54:48,243 --> 01:54:48,493
restore the original in

3363
01:54:51,009 --> 01:54:51,259
t ent of the larger policy

3364
01:54:52,776 --> 01:54:53,026
proposal which was to both

3365
01:54:54,543 --> 01:54:54,793
decriminalize certain traffic

3366
01:54:55,243 --> 01:54:55,493
citations and ensure that

3367
01:54:57,009 --> 01:54:57,259
individuals are not having their

3368
01:54:58,676 --> 01:54:58,926
license revoked simply for

3369
01:54:59,243 --> 01:54:59,493
failure to pay

3370
01:55:01,809 --> 01:55:02,059
that accurately

3371
01:55:03,143 --> 01:55:03,393
reflects the

3372
01:55:05,276 --> 01:55:05,526
the purpose of the

3373
01:55:09,076 --> 01:55:09,326
recommendation. OK

3374
01:55:12,776 --> 01:55:13,026
so this probably could be after

3375
01:55:14,509 --> 01:55:14,759
the motion but I think my

3376
01:55:16,543 --> 01:55:16,793
concern would be that we

3377
01:55:17,343 --> 01:55:17,593
currently have situations where

3378
01:55:19,243 --> 01:55:19,493
people are continuing to speed

3379
01:55:21,309 --> 01:55:21,559
and what you know whether it's70

3380
01:55:23,009 --> 01:55:23,259
or80 miles an hour you know

3381
01:55:24,643 --> 01:55:24,893
they're they're definitely

3382
01:55:25,209 --> 01:55:25,459
dangerous to society so it would

3383
01:55:29,576 --> 01:55:29,826
Thank you. I'll also just point

3384
01:55:31,009 --> 01:55:31,259
out that the points on their

3385
01:55:32,776 --> 01:55:33,026
record would still accumulate

3386
01:55:35,009 --> 01:55:35,259
and there are still sanctions

3387
01:55:36,809 --> 01:55:37,059
for having too many points on

3388
01:55:38,509 --> 01:55:38,759
your record. this will just

3389
01:55:40,743 --> 01:55:40,993
eliminate the the specific

3390
01:55:41,343 --> 01:55:41,593
sanction of removing their

3391
01:55:43,076 --> 01:55:43,326
driving privileges for the

3392
01:55:43,643 --> 01:55:43,893
specific violation of not paying

3393
01:55:44,343 --> 01:55:44,593
their fees.

3394
01:55:49,109 --> 01:55:49,359
any other questions on this

3395
01:55:49,676 --> 01:55:49,926
measure

3396
01:55:53,309 --> 01:55:53,559
right. I don't see any so at

3397
01:55:55,043 --> 01:55:55,293
this point I would accept a

3398
01:55:58,776 --> 01:55:59,026
motion to approve so all right

3399
01:56:00,476 --> 01:56:00,726
we have a motion from vicechair

3400
01:56:01,143 --> 01:56:01,393
Miller a second from

3401
01:56:03,109 --> 01:56:03,359
Senatorwynnn any further

3402
01:56:03,676 --> 01:56:03,926
discussion on the motion

3403
01:56:07,543 --> 01:56:07,793
not seeing any all in favor say

3404
01:56:08,943 --> 01:56:09,193
aye ii

3405
01:56:11,309 --> 01:56:11,559
any opposed nay

3406
01:56:15,276 --> 01:56:15,526
all right this measure also

3407
01:56:17,076 --> 01:56:17,326
carries and that takes us to the

3408
01:56:17,743 --> 01:56:17,993
next

3409
01:56:18,676 --> 01:56:18,926
recommendation

3410
01:56:23,009 --> 01:56:23,259
thank you chairiressarre

3411
01:56:24,509 --> 01:56:24,759
committee policy analyst for the

3412
01:56:26,743 --> 01:56:26,993
record recommendation number7

3413
01:56:27,576 --> 01:56:27,826
requests drafting legislation

3414
01:56:28,243 --> 01:56:28,493
concerning

3415
01:56:32,509 --> 01:56:32,759
statewide data collection

3416
01:56:33,543 --> 01:56:33,793
enforcement victim protections

3417
01:56:35,043 --> 01:56:35,293
and services related to human

3418
01:56:37,043 --> 01:56:37,293
trafficking. the recommendation

3419
01:56:39,009 --> 01:56:39,259
includes10 components outlined

3420
01:56:42,509 --> 01:56:42,759
in paragraphs A through J in

3421
01:56:43,109 --> 01:56:43,359
addition there's another

3422
01:56:44,776 --> 01:56:45,026
recommendation that was proposed

3423
01:56:45,509 --> 01:56:45,759
to the committee that's not

3424
01:56:46,743 --> 01:56:46,993
included in the work session

3425
01:56:48,943 --> 01:56:49,193
document today which is to

3426
01:56:52,976 --> 01:56:53,226
to move the state the state of

3427
01:56:53,676 --> 01:56:53,926
nevada human trafficking

3428
01:56:55,043 --> 01:56:55,293
coalition under the

3429
01:56:56,909 --> 01:56:57,159
responsibility of the officeice

3430
01:56:57,643 --> 01:56:57,893
of the attorney general

3431
01:56:58,676 --> 01:56:58,926
and chair that concludes

3432
01:57:04,809 --> 01:57:05,059
right. any questions on

3433
01:57:05,376 --> 01:57:05,626
recommendation number7

3434
01:57:09,443 --> 01:57:09,693
not seen any I would accept a

3435
01:57:10,109 --> 01:57:10,359
motion to approve

3436
01:57:14,743 --> 01:57:14,993
so we have emotion from

3437
01:57:16,743 --> 01:57:16,993
vicechair Miller a second from

3438
01:57:17,576 --> 01:57:17,826
Senator Wwynnn. any discussion

3439
01:57:18,276 --> 01:57:18,526
on the motion

3440
01:57:22,509 --> 01:57:22,759
not seeing any all in favor say

3441
01:57:23,343 --> 01:57:23,593
ayei and he opposed me

3442
01:57:28,509 --> 01:57:28,759
all right this motion carries

3443
01:57:29,209 --> 01:57:29,459
and that takes us to our next

3444
01:57:29,843 --> 01:57:30,093
recommendation.

3445
01:57:35,243 --> 01:57:35,493
thank you chair for the record

3446
01:57:37,009 --> 01:57:37,259
saysarmugh committee policy

3447
01:57:38,776 --> 01:57:39,026
analysts recommendation number8

3448
01:57:40,776 --> 01:57:41,026
requests the drafting of two

3449
01:57:42,509 --> 01:57:42,759
individual letters related to

3450
01:57:44,509 --> 01:57:44,759
funding and financing for human

3451
01:57:45,276 --> 01:57:45,526
trafficking prevention, victim

3452
01:57:47,276 --> 01:57:47,526
services and billing structures

3453
01:57:49,276 --> 01:57:49,526
for residential programs and the

3454
01:57:51,043 --> 01:57:51,293
recommendation includes to both

3455
01:57:53,076 --> 01:57:53,326
components in paragraphs A and B

3456
01:57:53,709 --> 01:57:53,959
make sure that concludes

3457
01:57:54,276 --> 01:57:54,526
recommendation8.

3458
01:57:57,309 --> 01:57:57,559
any questions on this

3459
01:57:57,776 --> 01:57:58,026
recommendation?

3460
01:58:02,643 --> 01:58:02,893
I don't see any so I would

3461
01:58:03,209 --> 01:58:03,459
accept a motion to

3462
01:58:09,243 --> 01:58:09,493
right we have a motion in a

3463
01:58:10,976 --> 01:58:11,226
second. I'll take the motion

3464
01:58:13,076 --> 01:58:13,326
from senator wynn and the second

3465
01:58:14,909 --> 01:58:15,159
from vicechair Miller. any

3466
01:58:15,476 --> 01:58:15,726
discussion on the motion

3467
01:58:19,076 --> 01:58:19,326
not seeing any all in favor say

3468
01:58:20,743 --> 01:58:20,993
ayei and he opposed this

3469
01:58:22,709 --> 01:58:22,959
and he opposed nay

3470
01:58:25,276 --> 01:58:25,526
all right we have approved

3471
01:58:27,043 --> 01:58:27,293
recommendation number8 moving on

3472
01:58:27,709 --> 01:58:27,959
to the next recommendation.

3473
01:58:31,009 --> 01:58:31,259
think the chair for the record

3474
01:58:32,776 --> 01:58:33,026
Caesar Mare committee policy

3475
01:58:34,776 --> 01:58:35,026
analysts recommendation 9

3476
01:58:36,509 --> 01:58:36,759
request the drafting of a letter

3477
01:58:38,776 --> 01:58:39,026
concerning public public

3478
01:58:39,509 --> 01:58:39,759
defence staffing and support

3479
01:58:41,009 --> 01:58:41,259
services and the recommendation

3480
01:58:42,643 --> 01:58:42,893
includes both components A and B

3481
01:58:49,226 --> 01:58:49,476
any questions on recommendation

3482
01:58:49,809 --> 01:58:50,059
9?

3483
01:58:53,076 --> 01:58:53,326
I don't see any so I'd accept a

3484
01:58:54,743 --> 01:58:54,993
motion to approve we have a

3485
01:58:57,043 --> 01:58:57,293
motion from vicechair Miller. we

3486
01:58:57,743 --> 01:58:57,993
have a second from Senator

3487
01:58:58,709 --> 01:58:58,959
Wwynn. any discussion on the

3488
01:58:59,376 --> 01:58:59,626
motion

3489
01:59:03,243 --> 01:59:03,493
not seeing any all in favor

3490
01:59:05,343 --> 01:59:05,593
sayii and nay

3491
01:59:07,043 --> 01:59:07,293
all

3492
01:59:11,543 --> 01:59:11,793
motion carries to approve

3493
01:59:13,043 --> 01:59:13,293
recommendation number 9 onto

3494
01:59:13,609 --> 01:59:13,859
recommendation number10.

3495
01:59:16,776 --> 01:59:17,026
thank you chair for the record

3496
01:59:18,543 --> 01:59:18,793
saysar magarejo committee policy

3497
01:59:20,543 --> 01:59:20,793
analyst recommendation number10

3498
01:59:22,509 --> 01:59:22,759
requests drafting legislation

3499
01:59:23,109 --> 01:59:23,359
concerning postconviction

3500
01:59:24,809 --> 01:59:25,059
representation for indigent

3501
01:59:26,509 --> 01:59:26,759
defendants by the department of

3502
01:59:27,709 --> 01:59:27,959
indigent deffenceervices and

3503
01:59:28,276 --> 01:59:28,526
that concludes recommendation

3504
01:59:28,976 --> 01:59:29,226
number10.

3505
01:59:31,476 --> 01:59:31,726
any questions on recommendation

3506
01:59:32,143 --> 01:59:32,393
number10?

3507
01:59:36,509 --> 01:59:36,759
I don't see any site accept a

3508
01:59:38,776 --> 01:59:39,026
motion to approve so moved right

3509
01:59:39,543 --> 01:59:39,793
we have a motion from vicechair

3510
01:59:40,776 --> 01:59:41,026
Miller. we have a second from

3511
01:59:41,376 --> 01:59:41,626
Senator Wwynnn. any discussion

3512
01:59:42,043 --> 01:59:42,293
on the motion

3513
01:59:46,509 --> 01:59:46,759
not seeing any all in favor say

3514
01:59:47,243 --> 01:59:47,493
aye i and

3515
01:59:49,209 --> 01:59:49,459
and he opposed nay

3516
01:59:51,243 --> 01:59:51,493
they don't see sorry

3517
01:59:53,609 --> 01:59:53,859
the motion carries that

3518
01:59:57,176 --> 01:59:57,426
brings us to the next

3519
01:59:57,609 --> 01:59:57,859
recommendation

3520
02:00:02,776 --> 02:00:03,026
thank you chair for the record

3521
02:00:04,509 --> 02:00:04,759
says that my committee policy

3522
02:00:05,243 --> 02:00:05,493
analyst recommendation

3523
02:00:06,976 --> 02:00:07,226
number11 requests drafting

3524
02:00:08,543 --> 02:00:08,793
legislation concerning

3525
02:00:09,009 --> 02:00:09,259
concerning the duration of

3526
02:00:11,043 --> 02:00:11,293
juvenile competency proceedings

3527
02:00:12,676 --> 02:00:12,926
to ensure that concludes

3528
02:00:13,209 --> 02:00:13,459
recommendation11.

3529
02:00:16,776 --> 02:00:17,026
any questions on this

3530
02:00:17,409 --> 02:00:17,659
recommendation SL member call

3531
02:00:22,776 --> 02:00:23,026
thank you chair so my

3532
02:00:23,509 --> 02:00:23,759
question would be if at the end

3533
02:00:24,676 --> 02:00:24,926
of six months they cannot

3534
02:00:28,743 --> 02:00:28,993
attain competency they're just

3535
02:00:30,509 --> 02:00:30,759
released into the community at

3536
02:00:31,209 --> 02:00:31,459
that point? Is that what would

3537
02:00:32,843 --> 02:00:33,093
happen or is there some

3538
02:00:33,409 --> 02:00:33,659
additional

3539
02:00:43,076 --> 02:00:43,326
ga in seeing as I told all of

3540
02:00:44,576 --> 02:00:44,826
our presenters that they didn't

3541
02:00:45,309 --> 02:00:45,559
have to be here at the work

3542
02:00:46,509 --> 02:00:46,759
session.

3543
02:00:49,309 --> 02:00:49,559
I will try to speak for them and

3544
02:00:50,876 --> 02:00:51,126
I'm sure they can clarify if I

3545
02:00:51,543 --> 02:00:51,793
get this wrong but

3546
02:00:53,443 --> 02:00:53,693
they would not be released

3547
02:00:55,043 --> 02:00:55,293
directly to the community. their

3548
02:00:56,509 --> 02:00:56,759
criminal case would be closed

3549
02:00:57,243 --> 02:00:57,493
but they would still have to go

3550
02:00:59,009 --> 02:00:59,259
through whatever process

3551
02:01:00,543 --> 02:01:00,793
they're going through to receive

3552
02:01:01,276 --> 02:01:01,526
treatment at a mental health

3553
02:01:03,043 --> 02:01:03,293
care facility and then be you

3554
02:01:04,676 --> 02:01:04,926
know reintegrated into their

3555
02:01:05,243 --> 02:01:05,493
family and into their community.

3556
02:01:09,409 --> 02:01:09,659
thank you

3557
02:01:11,209 --> 02:01:11,459
any further questions

3558
02:01:16,509 --> 02:01:16,759
right, not seeing any I would

3559
02:01:17,109 --> 02:01:17,359
accept a motion to approve this

3560
02:01:18,743 --> 02:01:18,993
recommendation so

3561
02:01:20,509 --> 02:01:20,759
we have a motion from vice

3562
02:01:21,143 --> 02:01:21,393
chairir Miller. we have a second

3563
02:01:22,843 --> 02:01:23,093
from Senatornwynnn. any

3564
02:01:23,309 --> 02:01:23,559
discussion on the motion?

3565
02:01:28,809 --> 02:01:29,059
right all in favor say aye ii

3566
02:01:30,709 --> 02:01:30,959
and he opposed nay

3567
02:01:33,343 --> 02:01:33,593
all right we have one nay from a

3568
02:01:34,009 --> 02:01:34,259
select member call

3569
02:01:35,476 --> 02:01:35,726
and the motion carries

3570
02:01:39,276 --> 02:01:39,526
that takes us to our next

3571
02:01:39,843 --> 02:01:40,093
recommendation number12.

3572
02:01:44,543 --> 02:01:44,793
thank you chair for the

3573
02:01:46,509 --> 02:01:46,759
recordarrellun policy analyst

3574
02:01:48,509 --> 02:01:48,759
recommendation number12 requests

3575
02:01:49,243 --> 02:01:49,493
drafting legislation concerning

3576
02:01:51,476 --> 02:01:51,726
the the time a youth may remain

3577
02:01:53,043 --> 02:01:53,293
in juvenile detention while

3578
02:01:54,743 --> 02:01:54,993
awaiting transferred to a state

3579
02:01:56,509 --> 02:01:56,759
correctional facility ensure

3580
02:01:57,143 --> 02:01:57,393
that concludes recommendation

3581
02:01:57,809 --> 02:01:58,059
number t2.

3582
02:02:00,609 --> 02:02:00,859
right. any questions on

3583
02:02:01,176 --> 02:02:01,426
recommendation number12?

3584
02:02:06,509 --> 02:02:06,759
seen any sideic accept a

3585
02:02:07,009 --> 02:02:07,259
motion to approve

3586
02:02:09,176 --> 02:02:09,426
we have a motion from vice

3587
02:02:10,709 --> 02:02:10,959
chairir Miller. we have a second

3588
02:02:11,509 --> 02:02:11,759
from senator Wwynnn. any

3589
02:02:12,076 --> 02:02:12,326
discussion on the motion

3590
02:02:15,209 --> 02:02:15,459
not seeing any all on paper say

3591
02:02:16,909 --> 02:02:17,159
aye i ii

3592
02:02:19,076 --> 02:02:19,326
any opposed nay

3593
02:02:22,676 --> 02:02:22,926
all right the motion carries

3594
02:02:23,243 --> 02:02:23,493
that takes us to our next

3595
02:02:27,443 --> 02:02:27,693
thank you chair for the

3596
02:02:29,009 --> 02:02:29,259
recordesar megare come be policy

3597
02:02:32,743 --> 02:02:32,993
analyst recommendation number13

3598
02:02:34,509 --> 02:02:34,759
requests drafting legislation

3599
02:02:35,076 --> 02:02:35,326
concerning deadlines for

3600
02:02:37,009 --> 02:02:37,259
courtordered evaluations of

3601
02:02:38,843 --> 02:02:39,093
youth who remained in detention

3602
02:02:39,543 --> 02:02:39,793
ensure that concludes

3603
02:02:42,976 --> 02:02:43,226
any questions on

3604
02:02:43,309 --> 02:02:43,559
recommendation13?

3605
02:02:46,709 --> 02:02:46,959
I don't see any. so I would

3606
02:02:47,276 --> 02:02:47,526
take a motion to approve

3607
02:02:50,976 --> 02:02:51,226
all right we have a motion from

3608
02:02:52,776 --> 02:02:53,026
vicechairiller a second from

3609
02:02:53,576 --> 02:02:53,826
Senator Wwynn any discussion on

3610
02:02:54,276 --> 02:02:54,526
the motion

3611
02:02:57,209 --> 02:02:57,459
not seeing any all in favor say

3612
02:02:58,909 --> 02:02:59,159
aye i

3613
02:03:01,176 --> 02:03:01,426
any opposed nay

3614
02:03:03,176 --> 02:03:03,426
the motion carries

3615
02:03:08,809 --> 02:03:09,059
we'll move on to our next

3616
02:03:09,376 --> 02:03:09,626
recommend

3617
02:03:12,809 --> 02:03:13,059
chair for the record

3618
02:03:15,009 --> 02:03:15,259
Carungarejounity policy analyst

3619
02:03:18,509 --> 02:03:18,759
the recommendation4 requests

3620
02:03:20,509 --> 02:03:20,759
drafting legislation concerning

3621
02:03:21,276 --> 02:03:21,526
certain young offenders whose

3622
02:03:23,276 --> 02:03:23,526
sentences will expire before

3623
02:03:25,109 --> 02:03:25,359
they reach 26 years of age and

3624
02:03:26,676 --> 02:03:26,926
chair that concludes

3625
02:03:27,143 --> 02:03:27,393
recommendation14.

3626
02:03:31,109 --> 02:03:31,359
right any questions on

3627
02:03:31,543 --> 02:03:31,793
recommendation14?

3628
02:03:32,876 --> 02:03:33,126
Vice chairir Miller

3629
02:03:36,776 --> 02:03:37,026
thank you chair. when it

3630
02:03:40,509 --> 02:03:40,759
refers to establish a program is

3631
02:03:41,609 --> 02:03:41,859
this a program for training

3632
02:03:42,143 --> 02:03:42,393
for re entry

3633
02:03:47,076 --> 02:03:47,326
early release but what is the

3634
02:03:48,509 --> 02:03:48,759
program well I guess you

3635
02:03:49,076 --> 02:03:49,326
wouldn't need early release well

3636
02:03:49,743 --> 02:03:49,993
I'm asking

3637
02:03:56,509 --> 02:03:56,759
my recollection is this would

3638
02:03:58,509 --> 02:03:58,759
be a housing program so that we

3639
02:04:00,509 --> 02:04:00,759
could have a separate or I

3640
02:04:02,509 --> 02:04:02,759
shouldn't say separate but a

3641
02:04:03,276 --> 02:04:03,526
designated facility for

3642
02:04:04,843 --> 02:04:05,093
offenders who are not

3643
02:04:05,309 --> 02:04:05,559
necessarily

3644
02:04:07,676 --> 02:04:07,926
juveniles or meet the definition

3645
02:04:08,343 --> 02:04:08,593
of youthful but

3646
02:04:09,343 --> 02:04:09,593
who are less than 26 years of

3647
02:04:10,009 --> 02:04:10,259
age

3648
02:04:11,009 --> 02:04:11,259
OK, thank you

3649
02:04:14,876 --> 02:04:15,126
any other questions

3650
02:04:18,976 --> 02:04:19,226
not seeing any I would accept

3651
02:04:20,776 --> 02:04:21,026
a motion to approve

3652
02:04:21,476 --> 02:04:21,726
recommendation14

3653
02:04:23,209 --> 02:04:23,459
we have a motion from vice

3654
02:04:25,009 --> 02:04:25,259
chaiririller. we have a second

3655
02:04:25,709 --> 02:04:25,959
from Senator wynn any discussion

3656
02:04:26,376 --> 02:04:26,626
on the motion

3657
02:04:30,943 --> 02:04:31,193
right all in favor say aye i

3658
02:04:33,309 --> 02:04:33,559
and he opposed nay

3659
02:04:37,009 --> 02:04:37,259
all right the motion carries and

3660
02:04:37,743 --> 02:04:37,993
that takes us to recommendation

3661
02:04:38,409 --> 02:04:38,659
15

3662
02:04:43,276 --> 02:04:43,526
you for the recordesaruggarejo

3663
02:04:44,776 --> 02:04:45,026
committee policy analyst

3664
02:04:46,509 --> 02:04:46,759
recommendation 15 requests

3665
02:04:48,776 --> 02:04:49,026
drafting legislation concerning

3666
02:04:49,476 --> 02:04:49,726
standards for government use of

3667
02:04:51,243 --> 02:04:51,493
automated license plate reader

3668
02:04:52,676 --> 02:04:52,926
systems ensure

3669
02:04:59,326 --> 02:04:59,576
right. questions on

3670
02:05:01,109 --> 02:05:01,359
recommendation 15 starting with

3671
02:05:01,776 --> 02:05:02,026
vicechair Miller.

3672
02:05:04,843 --> 02:05:05,093
thank you chair I

3673
02:05:08,776 --> 02:05:09,026
I do not want this to open into

3674
02:05:10,743 --> 02:05:10,993
a hearing because I know there's

3675
02:05:11,443 --> 02:05:11,693
a lot of questions and concerns

3676
02:05:13,209 --> 02:05:13,459
and we hear a lot from the

3677
02:05:15,243 --> 02:05:15,493
public on this and and issues

3678
02:05:17,009 --> 02:05:17,259
that we've seen not just locally

3679
02:05:19,009 --> 02:05:19,259
but nationally as well with this

3680
02:05:21,043 --> 02:05:21,293
especially around the abuse

3681
02:05:24,543 --> 02:05:24,793
and misuse of this type of

3682
02:05:25,209 --> 02:05:25,459
technology by officers

3683
02:05:27,409 --> 02:05:27,659
and of course

3684
02:05:30,509 --> 02:05:30,759
you know constitutional

3685
02:05:31,476 --> 02:05:31,726
infringement so my question is

3686
02:05:34,776 --> 02:05:35,026
where when it says it it a

3687
02:05:36,509 --> 02:05:36,759
twofold question one is the

3688
02:05:38,809 --> 02:05:39,059
point of this to enact standards

3689
02:05:42,743 --> 02:05:42,993
and regulations on a program

3690
02:05:44,543 --> 02:05:44,793
that is right now not regulated

3691
02:05:46,843 --> 02:05:47,093
so that it would there would be

3692
02:05:47,443 --> 02:05:47,693
some standards and best

3693
02:05:48,009 --> 02:05:48,259
practices in place

3694
02:05:49,643 --> 02:05:49,893
that's my first question

3695
02:05:54,809 --> 02:05:55,059
my understanding is yes but I

3696
02:05:56,509 --> 02:05:56,759
wanna kick it over to legal to

3697
02:05:57,109 --> 02:05:57,359
make sure that I'm not missing

3698
02:05:58,743 --> 02:05:58,993
some area of statute

3699
02:06:01,476 --> 02:06:01,726
Thank you chairir

3700
02:06:05,376 --> 02:06:05,626
Yes that that is exactly

3701
02:06:05,943 --> 02:06:06,193
correct. there

3702
02:06:09,076 --> 02:06:09,326
are no standards in place right

3703
02:06:09,743 --> 02:06:09,993
now

3704
02:06:12,509 --> 02:06:12,759
so what this would do is

3705
02:06:15,043 --> 02:06:15,293
establish those standards for

3706
02:06:15,709 --> 02:06:15,959
agencies to follow

3707
02:06:19,443 --> 02:06:19,693
and my second question with that

3708
02:06:20,109 --> 02:06:20,359
thank you is

3709
02:06:24,509 --> 02:06:24,759
to adapt written policies with

3710
02:06:26,776 --> 02:06:27,026
the agencies with each different

3711
02:06:28,743 --> 02:06:28,993
jurisdiction themselves be

3712
02:06:30,743 --> 02:06:30,993
creating their own policies or

3713
02:06:32,509 --> 02:06:32,759
would this be we would be

3714
02:06:33,076 --> 02:06:33,326
legislating policies that

3715
02:06:35,343 --> 02:06:35,593
so so who's writing these

3716
02:06:35,976 --> 02:06:36,226
policies?

3717
02:06:40,976 --> 02:06:41,226
because I know there's different

3718
02:06:42,776 --> 02:06:43,026
approaches and opinions even

3719
02:06:44,643 --> 02:06:44,893
within Nevada from

3720
02:06:45,076 --> 02:06:45,326
different jurisdiction

3721
02:06:54,743 --> 02:06:54,993
Yes, that that is true. the

3722
02:06:55,409 --> 02:06:55,659
model act there

3723
02:06:58,809 --> 02:06:59,059
has a

3724
02:07:00,943 --> 02:07:01,193
most of that information

3725
02:07:04,509 --> 02:07:04,759
about what the the content of

3726
02:07:05,143 --> 02:07:05,393
the policies is supposed to

3727
02:07:05,709 --> 02:07:05,959
include

3728
02:07:07,209 --> 02:07:07,459
I'm not sure to what extent

3729
02:07:10,709 --> 02:07:10,959
there's leeway for an agency to

3730
02:07:11,376 --> 02:07:11,626
depart from

3731
02:07:13,076 --> 02:07:13,326
what's contained in the modelel

3732
02:07:13,743 --> 02:07:13,993
Act

3733
02:07:17,009 --> 02:07:17,259
but most of the standards are

3734
02:07:18,676 --> 02:07:18,926
are going to be right there in

3735
02:07:19,343 --> 02:07:19,593
the model

3736
02:07:25,009 --> 02:07:25,259
OK thank you for that. I would I

3737
02:07:26,509 --> 02:07:26,759
would just like to say chair

3738
02:07:27,243 --> 02:07:27,493
that I would like to make sure

3739
02:07:29,243 --> 02:07:29,493
that if this moves forward that

3740
02:07:32,543 --> 02:07:32,793
we are legislating specifically

3741
02:07:33,209 --> 02:07:33,459
what we expect to be followed

3742
02:07:36,976 --> 02:07:37,226
thank you. understood and I

3743
02:07:37,576 --> 02:07:37,826
think we also have a question

3744
02:07:38,676 --> 02:07:38,926
sorry other questions down here

3745
02:07:40,676 --> 02:07:40,926
before I go to

3746
02:07:44,676 --> 02:07:44,926
our friends from afar I will go

3747
02:07:45,376 --> 02:07:45,626
now to assembly

3748
02:07:45,709 --> 02:07:45,959
membermberhansson.

3749
02:07:50,776 --> 02:07:51,026
Thank you chair. I think I've

3750
02:07:52,509 --> 02:07:52,759
got some of the clarification

3751
02:07:53,109 --> 02:07:53,359
from my colleague's question

3752
02:07:56,976 --> 02:07:57,226
so we we also call these flock

3753
02:07:58,976 --> 02:07:59,226
cameras so the thing is I I

3754
02:08:00,509 --> 02:08:00,759
guess what I was a little

3755
02:08:02,743 --> 02:08:02,993
confused by is we're gonna have

3756
02:08:04,743 --> 02:08:04,993
a BDR for these guardrails but

3757
02:08:06,809 --> 02:08:07,059
we haven't we've not passed any

3758
02:08:10,543 --> 02:08:10,793
legislation legalizing reading

3759
02:08:12,509 --> 02:08:12,759
of license plates for like

3760
02:08:13,209 --> 02:08:13,459
citations

3761
02:08:16,776 --> 02:08:17,026
so in some ways to me it was

3762
02:08:18,543 --> 02:08:18,793
like the cart before the horse,

3763
02:08:20,509 --> 02:08:20,759
but if it's flock cameras that

3764
02:08:21,109 --> 02:08:21,359
are currently used

3765
02:08:24,509 --> 02:08:24,759
for those of you in the legal

3766
02:08:25,109 --> 02:08:25,359
field make sure I'm

3767
02:08:26,976 --> 02:08:27,226
understanding this right. We use

3768
02:08:27,676 --> 02:08:27,926
these kind of cameras

3769
02:08:32,776 --> 02:08:33,026
we can't use them for citations

3770
02:08:34,709 --> 02:08:34,959
but we can use them after the

3771
02:08:36,509 --> 02:08:36,759
fact if a crime has occurred and

3772
02:08:37,243 --> 02:08:37,493
there's maybe some evidence on

3773
02:08:37,909 --> 02:08:38,159
them

3774
02:08:40,809 --> 02:08:41,059
is that do I have that

3775
02:08:41,276 --> 02:08:41,526
understanding right?

3776
02:08:53,009 --> 02:08:53,259
I can answer that. I I think the

3777
02:08:54,709 --> 02:08:54,959
point of them they're used for

3778
02:08:55,309 --> 02:08:55,559
investigatory purposes

3779
02:08:58,676 --> 02:08:58,926
primarily it's not it can't be

3780
02:08:59,376 --> 02:08:59,626
used as a

3781
02:09:02,743 --> 02:09:02,993
red light camera or you know

3782
02:09:03,409 --> 02:09:03,659
definitive proof of running a

3783
02:09:04,109 --> 02:09:04,359
red light

3784
02:09:08,509 --> 02:09:08,759
for example but rather you

3785
02:09:09,076 --> 02:09:09,326
know used for investigating

3786
02:09:12,676 --> 02:09:12,926
a wide variety of crimes

3787
02:09:15,209 --> 02:09:15,459
you know involving movement of

3788
02:09:15,909 --> 02:09:16,159
people, movement of vehicles

3789
02:09:18,643 --> 02:09:18,893
locations at which people were

3790
02:09:21,143 --> 02:09:21,393
but no it's not

3791
02:09:24,976 --> 02:09:25,226
you know used specifically as

3792
02:09:25,643 --> 02:09:25,893
evidence in a

3793
02:09:27,209 --> 02:09:27,459
citation although

3794
02:09:30,643 --> 02:09:30,893
you know that could come into

3795
02:09:31,243 --> 02:09:31,493
play at some point

3796
02:09:36,743 --> 02:09:36,993
OK thank you for that and so

3797
02:09:38,709 --> 02:09:38,959
yeah chair I guess yeah I I'll

3798
02:09:40,743 --> 02:09:40,993
support moving it forward with

3799
02:09:42,776 --> 02:09:43,026
the idea that I think we're

3800
02:09:43,409 --> 02:09:43,659
gonna have a whole lot of

3801
02:09:46,509 --> 02:09:46,759
discussion in the next session

3802
02:09:48,509 --> 02:09:48,759
on this subject in particular

3803
02:09:50,743 --> 02:09:50,993
and and guardrails are important

3804
02:09:53,043 --> 02:09:53,293
so thank you for letting me

3805
02:09:54,676 --> 02:09:54,926
try to get some clarity.

3806
02:09:55,176 --> 02:09:55,426
appreciate it.

3807
02:09:59,076 --> 02:09:59,326
of course and I think I actually

3808
02:10:00,776 --> 02:10:01,026
have to kind of clarifying

3809
02:10:01,376 --> 02:10:01,626
questions as well

3810
02:10:03,609 --> 02:10:03,859
which is that my understanding

3811
02:10:06,743 --> 02:10:06,993
is that you know absent any law

3812
02:10:09,009 --> 02:10:09,259
that prohibits the use of flock

3813
02:10:10,743 --> 02:10:10,993
cameras or license plate readers

3814
02:10:11,476 --> 02:10:11,726
there there's nothing to

3815
02:10:15,009 --> 02:10:15,259
prohibit law enforcement

3816
02:10:17,009 --> 02:10:17,259
agencies, private security

3817
02:10:18,709 --> 02:10:18,959
companies other

3818
02:10:22,776 --> 02:10:23,026
agencies or entities from

3819
02:10:25,276 --> 02:10:25,526
installing these cameras so

3820
02:10:27,443 --> 02:10:27,693
there are no rules in place at

3821
02:10:28,076 --> 02:10:28,326
this point in time, right?

3822
02:10:35,243 --> 02:10:35,493
Yes sure that that is correct

3823
02:10:35,809 --> 02:10:36,059
there are not any

3824
02:10:40,509 --> 02:10:40,759
statutes that pertains

3825
02:10:41,043 --> 02:10:41,293
specifically to this kind of

3826
02:10:41,709 --> 02:10:41,959
camera

3827
02:10:47,009 --> 02:10:47,259
and it was also my understanding

3828
02:10:48,676 --> 02:10:48,926
in you know choosing to bring

3829
02:10:49,343 --> 02:10:49,593
this

3830
02:10:51,309 --> 02:10:51,559
proposal forward that we do not

3831
02:10:52,776 --> 02:10:53,026
have any other committees that

3832
02:10:54,776 --> 02:10:55,026
are currently considering

3833
02:10:55,376 --> 02:10:55,626
legislation on this issue

3834
02:10:59,009 --> 02:10:59,259
I don't know if that's something

3835
02:11:01,443 --> 02:11:01,693
that OKok I'm getting some

3836
02:11:03,243 --> 02:11:03,493
confirmation here that other

3837
02:11:04,776 --> 02:11:05,026
committees have declined to take

3838
02:11:06,743 --> 02:11:06,993
up this issue so I thought that

3839
02:11:08,743 --> 02:11:08,993
to my colleague is

3840
02:11:10,509 --> 02:11:10,759
someverhansson's point there

3841
02:11:12,476 --> 02:11:12,726
will be much discussion on this

3842
02:11:15,009 --> 02:11:15,259
and it seemed appropriate to

3843
02:11:17,243 --> 02:11:17,493
at least have a vehicle to hash

3844
02:11:19,276 --> 02:11:19,526
out those details and if we're

3845
02:11:22,509 --> 02:11:22,759
able to come to some kind of

3846
02:11:23,243 --> 02:11:23,493
conclusion about how we should

3847
02:11:24,976 --> 02:11:25,226
be regulating the use of these

3848
02:11:26,843 --> 02:11:27,093
cameras then we can do that

3849
02:11:27,409 --> 02:11:27,659
with this particular

3850
02:11:27,843 --> 02:11:28,093
bill.

3851
02:11:31,076 --> 02:11:31,326
and with that I'll take any

3852
02:11:31,643 --> 02:11:31,893
other questions

3853
02:11:35,043 --> 02:11:35,293
but not seeing any we'll move to

3854
02:11:36,676 --> 02:11:36,926
a motion if there is one to

3855
02:11:37,243 --> 02:11:37,493
approve this recommendation.

3856
02:11:43,243 --> 02:11:43,493
all right we have a motion from

3857
02:11:44,776 --> 02:11:45,026
Senator Nwynn we have a second

3858
02:11:46,643 --> 02:11:46,893
from vicechair Miller. any

3859
02:11:47,243 --> 02:11:47,493
discussion on the mo

3860
02:11:51,243 --> 02:11:51,493
right, not seeing any all in

3861
02:11:53,076 --> 02:11:53,326
favor say ayeyi

3862
02:11:55,109 --> 02:11:55,359
any opposed nay

3863
02:11:59,409 --> 02:11:59,659
ok. that

3864
02:12:03,476 --> 02:12:03,726
motion carries and we will move

3865
02:12:04,709 --> 02:12:04,959
now to our next recommendation.

3866
02:12:09,209 --> 02:12:09,459
you for the recordesargarejo

3867
02:12:10,509 --> 02:12:10,759
committee policy analyst

3868
02:12:12,509 --> 02:12:12,759
recommendcommation16 requests

3869
02:12:14,509 --> 02:12:14,759
drafting legislation concerning

3870
02:12:17,043 --> 02:12:17,293
evaluations specialty court

3871
02:12:19,009 --> 02:12:19,259
probation and geriatric parole

3872
02:12:21,009 --> 02:12:21,259
ability the recommendation

3873
02:12:21,643 --> 02:12:21,893
includes the three components

3874
02:12:23,009 --> 02:12:23,259
outlined in paragraphs A through

3875
02:12:24,643 --> 02:12:24,893
C ensure that concludes

3876
02:12:25,209 --> 02:12:25,459
recommendation

3877
02:12:32,676 --> 02:12:32,926
any questions on this one as

3878
02:12:33,343 --> 02:12:33,593
some of them are cool

3879
02:12:36,976 --> 02:12:37,226
so my question is on sub

3880
02:12:40,509 --> 02:12:40,759
item C so I guess my question is

3881
02:12:41,276 --> 02:12:41,526
is there a certain amount of

3882
02:12:43,543 --> 02:12:43,793
minimum time that the people

3883
02:12:45,043 --> 02:12:45,293
would serve under a vehicular

3884
02:12:47,043 --> 02:12:47,293
homicide or habitual

3885
02:12:49,076 --> 02:12:49,326
criminals before they're

3886
02:12:51,043 --> 02:12:51,293
considered for geriatric parole

3887
02:12:52,543 --> 02:12:52,793
because my concern would be you

3888
02:12:54,509 --> 02:12:54,759
know they commit the crime at64

3889
02:12:55,143 --> 02:12:55,393
or65 or whatever that age

3890
02:13:04,909 --> 02:13:05,159
I'm going to ask legal to wait

3891
02:13:05,609 --> 02:13:05,859
in here because I'm not

3892
02:13:08,676 --> 02:13:08,926
qualified to answer that

3893
02:13:16,509 --> 02:13:16,759
and of course I sent all of our

3894
02:13:18,743 --> 02:13:18,993
presenters away so we have

3895
02:13:19,376 --> 02:13:19,626
nobody else to answer questions

3896
02:13:20,043 --> 02:13:20,293
for us.

3897
02:13:26,559 --> 02:13:26,809
Cha I'm not sure I understand

3898
02:13:28,643 --> 02:13:28,893
that question. could you

3899
02:13:29,209 --> 02:13:29,459
please repeat that

3900
02:13:33,276 --> 02:13:33,526
happy to so my question was

3901
02:13:36,509 --> 02:13:36,759
related to how the parole

3902
02:13:37,376 --> 02:13:37,626
process works for geriatric

3903
02:13:41,043 --> 02:13:41,293
they're convicted of vehicular

3904
02:13:44,509 --> 02:13:44,759
homicide or habitual criminals

3905
02:13:45,309 --> 02:13:45,559
we're removing the exclusion

3906
02:13:47,243 --> 02:13:47,493
pursuant to this the sea and the

3907
02:13:50,509 --> 02:13:50,759
BDr request how does that

3908
02:13:51,309 --> 02:13:51,559
work or is there a minimum

3909
02:13:52,809 --> 02:13:53,059
amount of time that they would

3910
02:13:54,643 --> 02:13:54,893
serve of their sentence before

3911
02:13:55,276 --> 02:13:55,526
they would be eligible for

3912
02:13:56,809 --> 02:13:57,059
parole or is it immediately when

3913
02:13:58,709 --> 02:13:58,959
they hit a particular age if so

3914
02:13:59,376 --> 02:13:59,626
what is that age? thank you

3915
02:14:02,976 --> 02:14:03,226
Yes

3916
02:14:07,009 --> 02:14:07,259
multiple people have pointed

3917
02:14:09,209 --> 02:14:09,459
out that the statute

3918
02:14:10,676 --> 02:14:10,926
NrS213.121

3919
02:14:11,243 --> 02:14:11,493
55

3920
02:14:15,109 --> 02:14:15,359
in subsection one paragraph E

3921
02:14:19,109 --> 02:14:19,359
has the requirement for

3922
02:14:19,609 --> 02:14:19,859
eligibility

3923
02:14:22,543 --> 02:14:22,793
that a person have served at

3924
02:14:23,143 --> 02:14:23,393
least the majority of the

3925
02:14:25,176 --> 02:14:25,426
maximum term or maximum

3926
02:14:25,709 --> 02:14:25,959
aggregate term of

3927
02:14:29,176 --> 02:14:29,426
his or her sentence so that

3928
02:14:29,743 --> 02:14:29,993
requirement would remain

3929
02:14:32,676 --> 02:14:32,926
in law even if the other

3930
02:14:37,276 --> 02:14:37,526
exclusionary crimes that are

3931
02:14:39,209 --> 02:14:39,459
proposed here were removed

3932
02:14:41,476 --> 02:14:41,726
from paragraph A of

3933
02:14:41,909 --> 02:14:42,159
subsection one

3934
02:14:45,743 --> 02:14:45,993
thank you so much thank you

3935
02:14:46,343 --> 02:14:46,593
chair

3936
02:14:48,876 --> 02:14:49,126
thank you

3937
02:14:51,343 --> 02:14:51,593
right. any other questions?

3938
02:14:55,043 --> 02:14:55,293
not seeing any I would accept a

3939
02:14:55,743 --> 02:14:55,993
motion to approve

3940
02:14:59,009 --> 02:14:59,259
all right we have a motion from

3941
02:15:00,743 --> 02:15:00,993
vice chair Miller. we have a

3942
02:15:01,543 --> 02:15:01,793
second from Senator Wwynn. any

3943
02:15:02,176 --> 02:15:02,426
discussion on the motion

3944
02:15:04,643 --> 02:15:04,893
chair

3945
02:15:07,309 --> 02:15:07,559
all right I think that was a

3946
02:15:10,743 --> 02:15:10,993
slim memberhansen yes thank you

3947
02:15:11,609 --> 02:15:11,859
sorry couldn't type quick enough

3948
02:15:15,176 --> 02:15:15,426
and I I'm comfortable with A and

3949
02:15:18,709 --> 02:15:18,959
B in the in this BDr

3950
02:15:20,543 --> 02:15:20,793
proposal. I'm not real

3951
02:15:21,243 --> 02:15:21,493
comfortable with see

3952
02:15:23,176 --> 02:15:23,426
so I unfortunately am going to

3953
02:15:23,876 --> 02:15:24,126
be now on this one

3954
02:15:29,409 --> 02:15:29,659
right. any other discussion?

3955
02:15:34,509 --> 02:15:34,759
not seeing any all in favor say

3956
02:15:35,176 --> 02:15:35,426
aye i

3957
02:15:36,843 --> 02:15:37,093
and he opposed nay

3958
02:15:37,276 --> 02:15:37,526
nay

3959
02:15:41,076 --> 02:15:41,326
all right I think we just

3960
02:15:45,043 --> 02:15:45,293
OK we have two nas as a just

3961
02:15:46,509 --> 02:15:46,759
because we have to keep the

3962
02:15:47,376 --> 02:15:47,626
record assembly member cole and

3963
02:15:48,009 --> 02:15:48,259
assembly memberhansson

3964
02:15:53,209 --> 02:15:53,459
and maybe have ane so I

3965
02:15:53,776 --> 02:15:54,026
apologize

3966
02:15:54,809 --> 02:15:55,059
that's ok.

3967
02:15:56,843 --> 02:15:57,093
I'm in a

3968
02:15:58,909 --> 02:15:59,159
got it so we have three nays

3969
02:16:00,843 --> 02:16:01,093
the rest are eyes

3970
02:16:02,976 --> 02:16:03,226
and with that the motion does

3971
02:16:04,943 --> 02:16:05,193
still carry to approve this

3972
02:16:05,543 --> 02:16:05,793
recommendation

3973
02:16:07,509 --> 02:16:07,759
and that takes us to

3974
02:16:14,509 --> 02:16:14,759
our final recommendation17

3975
02:16:15,076 --> 02:16:15,326
please take it away

3976
02:16:17,276 --> 02:16:17,526
thank you chair for the record

3977
02:16:20,509 --> 02:16:20,759
saysaruggareoun community policy

3978
02:16:21,276 --> 02:16:21,526
analyst recommendcommendations

3979
02:16:23,009 --> 02:16:23,259
se7 requests drafting

3980
02:16:25,009 --> 02:16:25,259
legislation concerning the use

3981
02:16:26,543 --> 02:16:26,793
of prone restraints by peace

3982
02:16:27,309 --> 02:16:27,559
officers and should that

3983
02:16:28,976 --> 02:16:29,226
concludes recommendation se7

3984
02:16:30,676 --> 02:16:30,926
then the recommendations in the

3985
02:16:31,343 --> 02:16:31,593
work session document.

3986
02:16:35,076 --> 02:16:35,326
right. any questions on this

3987
02:16:35,743 --> 02:16:35,993
recommendation?

3988
02:16:39,243 --> 02:16:39,493
I don't see any so I'd accept a

3989
02:16:41,009 --> 02:16:41,259
motion to approve so

3990
02:16:43,043 --> 02:16:43,293
all right we have a motion from

3991
02:16:44,509 --> 02:16:44,759
vicechair Miller. we have a

3992
02:16:45,343 --> 02:16:45,593
second from Senator Wwynn any

3993
02:16:46,043 --> 02:16:46,293
discussion on the motion?

3994
02:16:49,343 --> 02:16:49,593
not seeing any all in favor say

3995
02:16:50,009 --> 02:16:50,259
aye

3996
02:16:51,109 --> 02:16:51,359
ii

3997
02:16:53,109 --> 02:16:53,359
any opposed nay

3998
02:16:58,676 --> 02:16:58,926
all right the motion carries we

3999
02:16:59,343 --> 02:16:59,593
have approved

4000
02:17:03,309 --> 02:17:03,559
Recommation number17 and I think

4001
02:17:04,876 --> 02:17:05,126
that takes us to the end of our

4002
02:17:05,576 --> 02:17:05,826
work session document, correct?

4003
02:17:08,509 --> 02:17:08,759
all right that brings us to the

4004
02:17:10,509 --> 02:17:10,759
end of this agenda item and we

4005
02:17:12,509 --> 02:17:12,759
will move on to the next item on

4006
02:17:13,276 --> 02:17:13,526
our agenda which is our second

4007
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period of public comment we

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invite anybody wishing to give

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public comment in person in

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Carson City or Las Vegas to the

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front

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But I don't see anybody coming

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forward in either location

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so we'll go to the phones for

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public comment

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public comment please press 9

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now to take your place in the

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queue.

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we have no coers wishing to

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provide public comment.

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OK then that brings us to

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agenda item number8 as we get

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ready to adjourn. I just want to

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thank our committee members for

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their commitment over this

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interim to passing some or to

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assessing some many many issues

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and coming up with these

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recommendations out of our work

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session document and equally

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I want to thank our staff we

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have incredible staff atlCB as

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you all know our

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administrator Kathleen Capron

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our committee policy analyst

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CaarilcaRajo our committee

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counsel Bradley Wilkinson our

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secretary Maria Veasquez and so

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so many other members of our

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staff who I don't have their

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names in front of me but we have

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amazing staff at ABH we have our

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other analysts and

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secretaries who have been

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filling in and helping we have

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all of our staff atlCB legal,

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our finance staff our

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research staff and I just

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want to thank all of you so so

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much for all of your hard work

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over this interim and

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with that unless there are other

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comments questions

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all right then that takes us

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to agenda item number8. we are

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adjourned

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thank you so much chair. see you

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all soon.