1 00:00:09,744 --> 00:00:09,994 Good morning everyone we're 2 00:00:10,477 --> 00:00:10,727 gonna go ahead and call the 3 00:00:12,044 --> 00:00:12,294 joint interim standing Committee 4 00:00:15,544 --> 00:00:15,794 on revenue to order madam 5 00:00:16,111 --> 00:00:16,361 secretary would you please call 6 00:00:16,744 --> 00:00:16,994 the roll 7 00:00:19,511 --> 00:00:19,761 assembly member anderson for 8 00:00:20,177 --> 00:00:20,427 assembly member dasilva? 9 00:00:24,677 --> 00:00:24,927 assembly member Patchett for 10 00:00:25,344 --> 00:00:25,594 assembly member allant? 11 00:00:30,311 --> 00:00:30,561 assembly member mosca for 12 00:00:30,911 --> 00:00:31,161 assembly member wynn 13 00:00:31,877 --> 00:00:32,127 here 14 00:00:36,344 --> 00:00:36,594 assembly member cole for 15 00:00:36,877 --> 00:00:37,127 assembly memberber O'neal? 16 00:00:42,044 --> 00:00:42,294 vicechair Bacchus 17 00:00:43,777 --> 00:00:44,027 present 18 00:00:46,144 --> 00:00:46,394 senator donatete 19 00:00:47,711 --> 00:00:47,961 here 20 00:00:50,111 --> 00:00:50,361 Senator Ellison 21 00:00:51,711 --> 00:00:51,961 chairir neal 22 00:00:54,344 --> 00:00:54,594 Here 23 00:00:59,777 --> 00:01:00,027 OK so good morning everyone this 24 00:01:00,444 --> 00:01:00,694 is our6th 25 00:01:03,811 --> 00:01:04,061 meeting of the joint interim 26 00:01:04,411 --> 00:01:04,661 revenue onittee 27 00:01:07,511 --> 00:01:07,761 I wish it was our final but it's 28 00:01:09,711 --> 00:01:09,961 not we haven't we're going to do 29 00:01:12,177 --> 00:01:12,427 work session and not first but 30 00:01:14,077 --> 00:01:14,327 we do have another meeting. what 31 00:01:14,777 --> 00:01:15,027 is it October? 32 00:01:17,677 --> 00:01:17,927 on the cuz we're waiting for the 33 00:01:21,744 --> 00:01:21,994 cannabis study to come back 34 00:01:23,511 --> 00:01:23,761 and so we have an additional 35 00:01:24,077 --> 00:01:24,327 meeting that will happen in 36 00:01:26,244 --> 00:01:26,494 October because we wanted to see 37 00:01:27,977 --> 00:01:28,227 what the recommendations were 38 00:01:29,777 --> 00:01:30,027 coming from that cannabis study 39 00:01:31,744 --> 00:01:31,994 to see if there were any action 40 00:01:32,411 --> 00:01:32,661 items that we needed to do 41 00:01:32,977 --> 00:01:33,227 before session 42 00:01:38,011 --> 00:01:38,261 so with that we will move to 43 00:01:40,277 --> 00:01:40,527 agenda item number 2. I'd like 44 00:01:44,177 --> 00:01:44,427 to welcome the audience here any 45 00:01:44,911 --> 00:01:45,161 folks that are online 46 00:01:47,511 --> 00:01:47,761 and listening over the 47 00:01:47,977 --> 00:01:48,227 internet if you're in the room 48 00:01:50,111 --> 00:01:50,361 please mute your electronic 49 00:01:50,711 --> 00:01:50,961 devices 50 00:01:54,011 --> 00:01:54,261 we are going to hear several 51 00:01:57,977 --> 00:01:58,227 presentations today the first 52 00:01:59,511 --> 00:01:59,761 from Nevada Gaming Control Board 53 00:02:00,211 --> 00:02:00,461 and a representative from the 54 00:02:02,211 --> 00:02:02,461 Americanaming association on 55 00:02:05,711 --> 00:02:05,961 prediction markets operating in 56 00:02:07,744 --> 00:02:07,994 the United States, the gaming 57 00:02:09,511 --> 00:02:09,761 control board will provide a 58 00:02:10,411 --> 00:02:10,661 nevadaspecific 59 00:02:14,211 --> 00:02:14,461 focus so we can understand how 60 00:02:16,044 --> 00:02:16,294 prediction markets are impacting 61 00:02:16,744 --> 00:02:16,994 us innevada 62 00:02:19,511 --> 00:02:19,761 we then have representatives 63 00:02:20,111 --> 00:02:20,361 from Workforce connections 64 00:02:23,477 --> 00:02:23,727 who are going to talk about a 65 00:02:24,477 --> 00:02:24,727 very specific workforce 66 00:02:26,011 --> 00:02:26,261 correlation between workforce 67 00:02:28,211 --> 00:02:28,461 and foster youth and then we 68 00:02:30,211 --> 00:02:30,461 have our fiscal staff that is 69 00:02:31,977 --> 00:02:32,227 going to present an overview on 70 00:02:34,211 --> 00:02:34,461 Nevada's property taxes and 71 00:02:36,477 --> 00:02:36,727 provide an update on revenue 72 00:02:37,711 --> 00:02:37,961 collections 73 00:02:40,277 --> 00:02:40,527 it's super important to have 74 00:02:42,011 --> 00:02:42,261 that conversation because 75 00:02:43,844 --> 00:02:44,094 property tax has been a standing 76 00:02:44,511 --> 00:02:44,761 issue 77 00:02:47,511 --> 00:02:47,761 on whether or not we can fix the 78 00:02:50,011 --> 00:02:50,261 system or change it but we 79 00:02:51,644 --> 00:02:51,894 need to have a overall viewpoint 80 00:02:54,511 --> 00:02:54,761 and really that particular 81 00:02:55,977 --> 00:02:56,227 presentation is bringing back 82 00:02:57,977 --> 00:02:58,227 data that we had discussed I 83 00:03:00,311 --> 00:03:00,561 believe in 2020 84 00:03:00,677 --> 00:03:00,927 or 85 00:03:02,544 --> 00:03:02,794 2122 86 00:03:05,977 --> 00:03:06,227 and so we were bringing it back 87 00:03:07,977 --> 00:03:08,227 pushing it back to the top so 88 00:03:09,977 --> 00:03:10,227 folks could see how we had done 89 00:03:11,677 --> 00:03:11,927 prior analysis on all different 90 00:03:15,744 --> 00:03:15,994 types of solutions and then 91 00:03:17,977 --> 00:03:18,227 bring those back forward to be 92 00:03:20,011 --> 00:03:20,261 present of mind for folks that 93 00:03:21,677 --> 00:03:21,927 are thinking about how to deal 94 00:03:22,344 --> 00:03:22,594 with the issue. 95 00:03:24,077 --> 00:03:24,327 and so with that 96 00:03:28,011 --> 00:03:28,261 we will open up for public 97 00:03:30,244 --> 00:03:30,494 comment I'll move to agenda item 98 00:03:32,211 --> 00:03:32,461 number3 and I will open the 99 00:03:33,744 --> 00:03:33,994 meeting for public comment is 100 00:03:34,344 --> 00:03:34,594 there anyone in Las Vegas for 101 00:03:35,011 --> 00:03:35,261 public comment? 102 00:03:51,511 --> 00:03:51,761 Good morning chairneal and 103 00:03:52,144 --> 00:03:52,394 members of the committee my name 104 00:03:55,511 --> 00:03:55,761 is Leemccallier I'm the 105 00:03:57,511 --> 00:03:57,761 executive director of the Nevada 106 00:03:58,277 --> 00:03:58,527 chapter of the American Academy 107 00:04:01,744 --> 00:04:01,994 of Pediatrics my primary goal 108 00:04:02,477 --> 00:04:02,727 today is to urge you to advance 109 00:04:05,777 --> 00:04:06,027 item B7 revising Nevada's tax on 110 00:04:07,977 --> 00:04:08,227 other tobacco products. I'd also 111 00:04:09,744 --> 00:04:09,994 urge this committee to go 112 00:04:11,544 --> 00:04:11,794 further and raise Nevada's 113 00:04:13,511 --> 00:04:13,761 cigarette tax itself. The 114 00:04:14,477 --> 00:04:14,727 academy's tobacco policy draws 115 00:04:16,011 --> 00:04:16,261 on the USsurgeon general's 116 00:04:17,677 --> 00:04:17,927 finding that price increases 117 00:04:18,244 --> 00:04:18,494 from 118 00:04:20,344 --> 00:04:20,594 excise taxes prevent youth 119 00:04:22,244 --> 00:04:22,494 initiation. Young people are 2 120 00:04:25,511 --> 00:04:25,761 to3 times more price 121 00:04:27,777 --> 00:04:28,027 sensitive than adults. cigarette 122 00:04:30,011 --> 00:04:30,261 use among teens has declined but 123 00:04:31,711 --> 00:04:31,961 e cigarettes, cigars and hookahs 124 00:04:33,511 --> 00:04:33,761 have not, which is exactly what 125 00:04:34,211 --> 00:04:34,461 your OTP proposal addresses 126 00:04:37,777 --> 00:04:38,027 that same evidence applies just 127 00:04:39,777 --> 00:04:40,027 as strongly to cigarettes and 128 00:04:41,511 --> 00:04:41,761 the two rates need to rise 129 00:04:43,477 --> 00:04:43,727 together otherwise kids simply 130 00:04:44,111 --> 00:04:44,361 switch to whichever product is 131 00:04:44,777 --> 00:04:45,027 cheaper. 132 00:04:47,744 --> 00:04:47,994 that's the ask I most want you 133 00:04:50,011 --> 00:04:50,261 to act on today the written 134 00:04:52,044 --> 00:04:52,294 testimony we submitted late 135 00:04:53,744 --> 00:04:53,994 yesterday goes considerably 136 00:04:55,744 --> 00:04:55,994 further long enough that I'd 137 00:04:57,744 --> 00:04:57,994 recommend reading it on a screen 138 00:04:59,744 --> 00:04:59,994 rather than printing it. I used 139 00:05:01,511 --> 00:05:01,761 that space to make a case I 140 00:05:04,011 --> 00:05:04,261 don't often get to make in HHs 141 00:05:05,811 --> 00:05:06,061 and education committee rooms 142 00:05:07,511 --> 00:05:07,761 advocates like me usually hear 143 00:05:08,277 --> 00:05:08,527 that our ideas are right but 144 00:05:11,511 --> 00:05:11,761 Nevada can't fund them. this is 145 00:05:12,277 --> 00:05:12,527 one of the few rooms where that 146 00:05:13,844 --> 00:05:14,094 funding question is actually 147 00:05:14,411 --> 00:05:14,661 yours to answer 148 00:05:17,711 --> 00:05:17,961 Our letter tries to show why 149 00:05:19,744 --> 00:05:19,994 investing in kids now costs far 150 00:05:20,411 --> 00:05:20,661 less than the alternative later. 151 00:05:23,511 --> 00:05:23,761 thank you for your time and your 152 00:05:24,244 --> 00:05:24,494 work this interim on behalf of 153 00:05:26,277 --> 00:05:26,527 Nevada's children and the 154 00:05:26,844 --> 00:05:27,094 pediatricians who care for them. 155 00:05:32,044 --> 00:05:32,294 Good morning Alexander Marks 156 00:05:33,744 --> 00:05:33,994 with the Nevada State Education 157 00:05:35,744 --> 00:05:35,994 association revenue isn't only 158 00:05:37,511 --> 00:05:37,761 what we collect it's what we 159 00:05:38,211 --> 00:05:38,461 choose not to collect.ack in May 160 00:05:40,011 --> 00:05:40,261 NSEA raised concerns about the 161 00:05:41,744 --> 00:05:41,994 cumulative impact of Nevada's 162 00:05:42,511 --> 00:05:42,761 tax giveaways on our ability to 163 00:05:44,311 --> 00:05:44,561 adequately fund our schools 164 00:05:45,777 --> 00:05:46,027 while districts are cutting 165 00:05:47,544 --> 00:05:47,794 staff services opportunities the 166 00:05:48,244 --> 00:05:48,494 state continues to give away 167 00:05:50,044 --> 00:05:50,294 revenue to large corporations. 168 00:05:51,777 --> 00:05:52,027 Nevada's given hundreds of 169 00:05:53,511 --> 00:05:53,761 millions of dollars in public 170 00:05:54,177 --> 00:05:54,427 support to professional sports 171 00:05:55,511 --> 00:05:55,761 and data centers which are 172 00:05:56,144 --> 00:05:56,394 perhaps the most egregious 173 00:05:57,777 --> 00:05:58,027 example of this misplaced 174 00:05:59,544 --> 00:05:59,794 priority we've set schools over 175 00:06:00,177 --> 00:06:00,427 stadiums schools over studios 176 00:06:00,877 --> 00:06:01,127 and 177 00:06:01,444 --> 00:06:01,694 now schools over servers 178 00:06:03,777 --> 00:06:04,027 we're not against the economic 179 00:06:04,444 --> 00:06:04,694 development but the best 180 00:06:06,044 --> 00:06:06,294 longterm economic development as 181 00:06:08,011 --> 00:06:08,261 a strategy that is a top tier 182 00:06:09,777 --> 00:06:10,027 public education system and a 183 00:06:12,044 --> 00:06:12,294 well prepared workforce for far 184 00:06:12,677 --> 00:06:12,927 too long Nevada's called 185 00:06:14,077 --> 00:06:14,327 corporate subsidies investments 186 00:06:15,777 --> 00:06:16,027 while public education is called 187 00:06:16,511 --> 00:06:16,761 spending when billion dollar 188 00:06:18,311 --> 00:06:18,561 industries come asking for money 189 00:06:19,777 --> 00:06:20,027 we're told it's an investment 190 00:06:21,511 --> 00:06:21,761 when educators urge the 191 00:06:22,011 --> 00:06:22,261 legislature and governor to 192 00:06:23,777 --> 00:06:24,027 seriously pass the plan we're 193 00:06:24,577 --> 00:06:24,827 told to be realistic. We 194 00:06:25,811 --> 00:06:26,061 constantly hear about what 195 00:06:27,511 --> 00:06:27,761 Nevada can't afford but somehow 196 00:06:28,311 --> 00:06:28,561 when billionaires and data 197 00:06:30,011 --> 00:06:30,261 center developers or Hollywood 198 00:06:30,644 --> 00:06:30,894 comes to Carson City the 199 00:06:31,211 --> 00:06:31,461 conversation conversation 200 00:06:33,777 --> 00:06:34,027 changes from how will we pay for 201 00:06:35,777 --> 00:06:36,027 it to how much do you need just 202 00:06:36,444 --> 00:06:36,694 last week the raiders are 203 00:06:39,511 --> 00:06:39,761 beneficiaries already of750 204 00:06:40,144 --> 00:06:40,394 million dollars in public 205 00:06:41,511 --> 00:06:41,761 funding and they're now asking 206 00:06:42,277 --> 00:06:42,527 for another75 million to upgrade 207 00:06:44,277 --> 00:06:44,527 a six yearold stadiumext summer 208 00:06:46,011 --> 00:06:46,261 Johnisher's A's are going to tap 209 00:06:47,777 --> 00:06:48,027 into their public financing 210 00:06:49,511 --> 00:06:49,761 after three failed attempts to 211 00:06:50,277 --> 00:06:50,527 expand the Hollywood handout a 212 00:06:53,477 --> 00:06:53,727 very unsuccessful special 213 00:06:54,511 --> 00:06:54,761 session goed has prefiled a 214 00:06:56,044 --> 00:06:56,294 BDR for the twentyseth session. 215 00:06:57,777 --> 00:06:58,027 data centers received nearly 216 00:07:00,044 --> 00:07:00,294 $238 million in tax breaks over 217 00:07:00,677 --> 00:07:00,927 the last few years nearly a 218 00:07:01,244 --> 00:07:01,494 quarter billion dollars 219 00:07:03,811 --> 00:07:04,061 Nevada chose not to 220 00:07:06,044 --> 00:07:06,294 collect.ervers stadiums studios 221 00:07:07,777 --> 00:07:08,027 there always seems to be another 222 00:07:08,511 --> 00:07:08,761 subsidy and another reason 223 00:07:09,777 --> 00:07:10,027 Nevada should give away our 224 00:07:11,511 --> 00:07:11,761 revenue but when it comes to 225 00:07:12,244 --> 00:07:12,494 adequately funding our schools 226 00:07:13,744 --> 00:07:13,994 suddenly the money's not there. 227 00:07:15,777 --> 00:07:16,027 Meanwhile Nevada remains4,000 228 00:07:16,377 --> 00:07:16,627 dollars behind the national 229 00:07:18,011 --> 00:07:18,261 average with the largest class 230 00:07:20,044 --> 00:07:20,294 sizes in the country we are most 231 00:07:22,011 --> 00:07:22,261 generous to those who need us 232 00:07:23,744 --> 00:07:23,994 the least our educators are not 233 00:07:25,544 --> 00:07:25,794 getting 20 year abatements the 234 00:07:26,311 --> 00:07:26,561 para not filling up her car, not 235 00:07:28,044 --> 00:07:28,294 the custodian buying groceries 236 00:07:29,777 --> 00:07:30,027 and not the teacher paying rent. 237 00:07:30,444 --> 00:07:30,694 The commission on school funding 238 00:07:31,111 --> 00:07:31,361 has already given us a plan to 239 00:07:31,811 --> 00:07:32,061 fully 240 00:07:33,811 --> 00:07:34,061 fund our schools so when it 241 00:07:35,544 --> 00:07:35,794 comes to revenue Nevada can't 242 00:07:36,311 --> 00:07:36,561 continue to be more generous to 243 00:07:38,011 --> 00:07:38,261 sports teams and server farms 244 00:07:39,777 --> 00:07:40,027 and the nevadans who teach our 245 00:07:41,511 --> 00:07:41,761 kids drive their buses, prepare 246 00:07:42,277 --> 00:07:42,527 their meals and keep our schools 247 00:07:43,677 --> 00:07:43,927 running seriously pass the plan 248 00:07:51,511 --> 00:07:51,761 madam Chairridaley Nevada State 249 00:07:52,277 --> 00:07:52,527 Education association the voice 250 00:07:55,511 --> 00:07:55,761 of Nevada educators for125 years 251 00:07:57,511 --> 00:07:57,761 when NSCA appeared before 252 00:07:58,277 --> 00:07:58,527 this committee back in January 253 00:08:00,044 --> 00:08:00,294 we urged you to advance the work 254 00:08:01,511 --> 00:08:01,761 of the commission on school 255 00:08:03,777 --> 00:08:04,027 funding modernizing the state's 256 00:08:04,444 --> 00:08:04,694 sales tax to include digital 257 00:08:06,311 --> 00:08:06,561 products is a small but 258 00:08:08,311 --> 00:08:08,561 important part of that plan. 259 00:08:10,311 --> 00:08:10,561 Last session NScA testified in 260 00:08:12,544 --> 00:08:12,794 support of AB453 because Nevada 261 00:08:15,777 --> 00:08:16,027 sales tax has not kept pace with 262 00:08:17,711 --> 00:08:17,961 our changing economy. Nevadda's 263 00:08:18,444 --> 00:08:18,694 increasingly purchased digital 264 00:08:20,277 --> 00:08:20,527 products eroding the sales tax 265 00:08:21,777 --> 00:08:22,027 base designed around physical 266 00:08:23,777 --> 00:08:24,027 goods. Senator Neal has been 267 00:08:25,511 --> 00:08:25,761 raising this issue since at 268 00:08:27,511 --> 00:08:27,761 least 2019, the commission on 269 00:08:28,277 --> 00:08:28,527 school funding followed suit and 270 00:08:30,311 --> 00:08:30,561 recommended capturing digital 271 00:08:33,544 --> 00:08:33,794 sales in their plan.addly the 272 00:08:35,511 --> 00:08:35,761 state has failed to actstead of 273 00:08:36,311 --> 00:08:36,561 seriously addressing revenue 274 00:08:38,277 --> 00:08:38,527 last session the state passed an 275 00:08:41,511 --> 00:08:41,761 education budget with only a $2 276 00:08:43,511 --> 00:08:43,761 per pupil increase. This left 277 00:08:44,277 --> 00:08:44,527 underfunded school districts 278 00:08:46,044 --> 00:08:46,294 this year with severe budget 279 00:08:47,677 --> 00:08:47,927 deficits staffing reductions, 280 00:08:48,344 --> 00:08:48,594 service 281 00:08:51,511 --> 00:08:51,761 cuts and even school closures. 282 00:08:53,511 --> 00:08:53,761 Nevada cannot build a worldclass 283 00:08:54,244 --> 00:08:54,494 public education system with an 284 00:08:55,777 --> 00:08:56,027 anemic revenue structure that 285 00:08:57,844 --> 00:08:58,094 increasingly fails to capture 286 00:08:58,511 --> 00:08:58,761 economic activity 287 00:09:00,011 --> 00:09:00,261 the commission on school funding 288 00:09:02,011 --> 00:09:02,261 gave Nevada a roadmap among the 289 00:09:03,777 --> 00:09:04,027 commission's revenue proposals 290 00:09:05,744 --> 00:09:05,994 modernizing the sales tax base 291 00:09:07,744 --> 00:09:07,994 is probably the lowest hanging 292 00:09:09,511 --> 00:09:09,761 fruit this committee can now 293 00:09:11,511 --> 00:09:11,761 take a small but important step 294 00:09:13,511 --> 00:09:13,761 forward.upport modernizing 295 00:09:14,311 --> 00:09:14,561 Nevada's tax base to generate 296 00:09:16,344 --> 00:09:16,594 sustainable revenue seriously 297 00:09:17,044 --> 00:09:17,294 pass the plan thank you. 298 00:09:23,477 --> 00:09:23,727 Cherneel members of the 299 00:09:24,211 --> 00:09:24,461 committee thank you for the 300 00:09:25,777 --> 00:09:26,027 opportunity to provide this 301 00:09:27,511 --> 00:09:27,761 public comment today my name 302 00:09:29,511 --> 00:09:29,761 ishannon Bilbra Axelrod and I am 303 00:09:30,277 --> 00:09:30,527 the policy and external affairs 304 00:09:31,711 --> 00:09:31,961 director for the childrenldren's 305 00:09:32,377 --> 00:09:32,627 cabinet. 306 00:09:34,477 --> 00:09:34,727 as nevada considers a longterm 307 00:09:36,244 --> 00:09:36,494 fiscal future we urge 308 00:09:38,211 --> 00:09:38,461 policymakers to explore and 309 00:09:40,211 --> 00:09:40,461 implement sustainable new 310 00:09:41,977 --> 00:09:42,227 revenue sources that will allow 311 00:09:43,977 --> 00:09:44,227 our state to make meaningful 312 00:09:45,711 --> 00:09:45,961 investments in children families 313 00:09:47,777 --> 00:09:48,027 and communities. Research 314 00:09:48,377 --> 00:09:48,627 consistently shows that 315 00:09:51,511 --> 00:09:51,761 investing in early childhood is 316 00:09:52,244 --> 00:09:52,494 one of the smartest economic 317 00:09:52,844 --> 00:09:53,094 investments a state can make 318 00:09:56,211 --> 00:09:56,461 Nobel rize winning economist 319 00:09:58,211 --> 00:09:58,461 James James Heckman found that 320 00:09:59,977 --> 00:10:00,227 high quality birth to five 321 00:10:02,011 --> 00:10:02,261 programs can generate an annual 322 00:10:03,744 --> 00:10:03,994 revenue on investment of 323 00:10:06,244 --> 00:10:06,494 approximately13% through 324 00:10:08,277 --> 00:10:08,527 improved education, health, 325 00:10:09,944 --> 00:10:10,194 employment and social outcomes. 326 00:10:13,777 --> 00:10:14,027 this need in nevada is 327 00:10:16,011 --> 00:10:16,261 significant.62% of Nevada's 328 00:10:17,977 --> 00:10:18,227 children underage5 live in 329 00:10:20,311 --> 00:10:20,561 households where all available 330 00:10:22,277 --> 00:10:22,527 parents are working, yet our 331 00:10:27,511 --> 00:10:27,761 state faces a66p66% gap between 332 00:10:29,744 --> 00:10:29,994 the supply of licensed childcare 333 00:10:31,744 --> 00:10:31,994 and potential demand. The 334 00:10:34,011 --> 00:10:34,261 estimate of economic loss from 335 00:10:36,277 --> 00:10:36,527 Nevada's childcare shortage is 336 00:10:39,544 --> 00:10:39,794 between4.2 billion and6.2 337 00:10:40,077 --> 00:10:40,327 billion over the next decade. 338 00:10:44,011 --> 00:10:44,261 childcare shortage is a problem 339 00:10:45,977 --> 00:10:46,227 in Nevada but we know that 340 00:10:47,977 --> 00:10:48,227 investing in early childcare 341 00:10:50,011 --> 00:10:50,261 early learning home visiting and 342 00:10:51,711 --> 00:10:51,961 family support services help 343 00:10:53,511 --> 00:10:53,761 children arrive at school ready 344 00:10:55,777 --> 00:10:56,027 to learn ready to succeed and 345 00:10:57,744 --> 00:10:57,994 enable parents to participate in 346 00:10:59,744 --> 00:10:59,994 the workforce these investments 347 00:11:01,777 --> 00:11:02,027 strengthen families today and 348 00:11:03,777 --> 00:11:04,027 buildnevada's future workforce 349 00:11:05,744 --> 00:11:05,994 at the same time we recognize 350 00:11:08,011 --> 00:11:08,261 that children don't just thrive 351 00:11:09,744 --> 00:11:09,994 basically on access to early 352 00:11:10,411 --> 00:11:10,661 childhood programs families 353 00:11:13,511 --> 00:11:13,761 also need affordable housing, 354 00:11:15,744 --> 00:11:15,994 healthcare foods care food 355 00:11:17,744 --> 00:11:17,994 security and behavioral health 356 00:11:19,711 --> 00:11:19,961 supports when parents struggle 357 00:11:22,011 --> 00:11:22,261 to meet basic needs children 358 00:11:23,511 --> 00:11:23,761 experience those impacts as 359 00:11:25,777 --> 00:11:26,027 well. this is not an either or 360 00:11:27,777 --> 00:11:28,027 conversationnevada needs a 361 00:11:29,777 --> 00:11:30,027 revenue system that is adequate 362 00:11:32,044 --> 00:11:32,294 sustainable and capable of 363 00:11:33,744 --> 00:11:33,994 supporting both a comprehensive 364 00:11:35,544 --> 00:11:35,794 early childhood system and the 365 00:11:37,511 --> 00:11:37,761 broader economic security 366 00:11:39,511 --> 00:11:39,761 programs that help families 367 00:11:40,111 --> 00:11:40,361 remain stable and resilient. 368 00:11:43,511 --> 00:11:43,761 we encourage the committee to 369 00:11:45,744 --> 00:11:45,994 pursume new revenue solutions 370 00:11:47,511 --> 00:11:47,761 that reflect the scale of 371 00:11:49,511 --> 00:11:49,761 Nevada's needs and the 372 00:11:50,277 --> 00:11:50,527 opportunity that comes from 373 00:11:51,744 --> 00:11:51,994 investing in our youngest 374 00:11:53,511 --> 00:11:53,761 children and families thank you 375 00:11:54,177 --> 00:11:54,427 so much for your time and your 376 00:11:54,844 --> 00:11:55,094 work. 377 00:11:58,511 --> 00:11:58,761 good morning chair and members 378 00:11:59,777 --> 00:12:00,027 of the committee my name is 379 00:12:01,511 --> 00:12:01,761 Cassie Charles here on behalf of 380 00:12:03,511 --> 00:12:03,761 asme the American Federation of 381 00:12:04,144 --> 00:12:04,394 State County and municipal 382 00:12:05,977 --> 00:12:06,227 Employees are hardworking state 383 00:12:07,777 --> 00:12:08,027 workers. first and foremost 384 00:12:09,477 --> 00:12:09,727 Aapsme supports the ongoing 385 00:12:10,244 --> 00:12:10,494 conversations in this committee 386 00:12:11,511 --> 00:12:11,761 regarding progressive revenue 387 00:12:13,744 --> 00:12:13,994 measures. Nevada's long past due 388 00:12:14,477 --> 00:12:14,727 for a tax structure that 389 00:12:16,044 --> 00:12:16,294 prioritizes family and public 390 00:12:18,044 --> 00:12:18,294 services over corporations when 391 00:12:20,044 --> 00:12:20,294 revenues don't meet expectations 392 00:12:21,511 --> 00:12:21,761 asks me workers who have 393 00:12:22,277 --> 00:12:22,527 dedicated their lives to public 394 00:12:23,811 --> 00:12:24,061 services are the first to be 395 00:12:25,511 --> 00:12:25,761 furloughed the first to be asked 396 00:12:26,244 --> 00:12:26,494 to make their dollar a stretch 397 00:12:26,911 --> 00:12:27,161 and the first to service 398 00:12:29,811 --> 00:12:30,061 our community members with less 399 00:12:31,511 --> 00:12:31,761 at Asme we are very much of the 400 00:12:33,544 --> 00:12:33,794 mindset that more water makes 401 00:12:35,777 --> 00:12:36,027 allba all boats float and assumi 402 00:12:37,511 --> 00:12:37,761 members this year have been 403 00:12:39,477 --> 00:12:39,727 asked to pay more for their 404 00:12:41,544 --> 00:12:41,794 healthcare they are seeing their 405 00:12:43,544 --> 00:12:43,794 per contribution rates go up and 406 00:12:44,277 --> 00:12:44,527 they've been left with 407 00:12:45,744 --> 00:12:45,994 bargaining agreements that have 408 00:12:47,744 --> 00:12:47,994 not been funded. we know that 409 00:12:49,511 --> 00:12:49,761 when you support public services 410 00:12:50,311 --> 00:12:50,561 you're supporting asking workers 411 00:12:52,011 --> 00:12:52,261 and we're supporting A workers 412 00:12:52,644 --> 00:12:52,894 you're supporting public 413 00:12:54,044 --> 00:12:54,294 services thank you so much for 414 00:12:55,711 --> 00:12:55,961 the work of this committee and 415 00:12:56,377 --> 00:12:56,627 we look forward to working 416 00:12:56,944 --> 00:12:57,194 together. 417 00:13:01,711 --> 00:13:01,961 Hi my name's Andrew Cclark. I'm 418 00:13:03,711 --> 00:13:03,961 the policy manager of 419 00:13:05,777 --> 00:13:06,027 Battleborne Progress we champion 420 00:13:07,544 --> 00:13:07,794 policies that provide 421 00:13:09,511 --> 00:13:09,761 everynevadan with a fair 422 00:13:10,244 --> 00:13:10,494 opportunity to succeed. We 423 00:13:12,277 --> 00:13:12,527 believe that that success starts 424 00:13:14,011 --> 00:13:14,261 at the state budget and that's 425 00:13:15,744 --> 00:13:15,994 why we're proud to house the 426 00:13:16,444 --> 00:13:16,694 Nevada Revenue coalition. Our 427 00:13:18,244 --> 00:13:18,494 state budget represents a quilt 428 00:13:20,211 --> 00:13:20,461 of competing needs patched 429 00:13:22,211 --> 00:13:22,461 together accessible healthcare, 430 00:13:24,244 --> 00:13:24,494 education from early childhood 431 00:13:26,211 --> 00:13:26,461 through adolescence on to higher 432 00:13:28,377 --> 00:13:28,627 education and jobs that pay fair 433 00:13:29,044 --> 00:13:29,294 wages to do everything from 434 00:13:31,711 --> 00:13:31,961 build Ccip projects provide 435 00:13:32,511 --> 00:13:32,761 social services and yes fight 436 00:13:33,177 --> 00:13:33,427 fires 437 00:13:35,777 --> 00:13:36,027 at the heart of this 438 00:13:37,877 --> 00:13:38,127 conversation is who pays and 439 00:13:38,511 --> 00:13:38,761 what they get in return. 440 00:13:40,211 --> 00:13:40,461 According to the institute on 441 00:13:41,977 --> 00:13:42,227 Taxationconomic policies 442 00:13:44,177 --> 00:13:44,427 landndmark study who pays it's 443 00:13:46,211 --> 00:13:46,461 Nevada families who pay. We are 444 00:13:47,977 --> 00:13:48,227 the fifth most regressive tax 445 00:13:49,511 --> 00:13:49,761 code in the entire country. Now 446 00:13:50,244 --> 00:13:50,494 we pay this cost through 447 00:13:52,244 --> 00:13:52,494 provider storages longer wait 448 00:13:54,244 --> 00:13:54,494 times at the hospital in an 449 00:13:55,777 --> 00:13:56,027 education system that is too 450 00:13:57,744 --> 00:13:57,994 often balanced on both teachers 451 00:13:59,744 --> 00:13:59,994 and students alike.tween a 452 00:14:01,511 --> 00:14:01,761 captain depreciating property 453 00:14:02,244 --> 00:14:02,494 tax system that shows a lack of 454 00:14:04,244 --> 00:14:04,494 appreciation for our communities 455 00:14:06,244 --> 00:14:06,494 and a definition of sales tax 456 00:14:07,911 --> 00:14:08,161 which is not kept pace with 457 00:14:08,477 --> 00:14:08,727 hownevadans live 458 00:14:10,211 --> 00:14:10,461 or spend. this committee has had 459 00:14:13,477 --> 00:14:13,727 the tenacity this interim to 460 00:14:14,177 --> 00:14:14,427 lead on these issueshead of 461 00:14:18,011 --> 00:14:18,261 the202017 legislative session, 462 00:14:19,511 --> 00:14:19,761 Nevada faces great challenges. 463 00:14:20,211 --> 00:14:20,461 the federal government has 464 00:14:21,944 --> 00:14:22,194 rethought its role in funding 465 00:14:24,011 --> 00:14:24,261 state government with $9.5 466 00:14:25,511 --> 00:14:25,761 billion in cuts coming down the 467 00:14:27,977 --> 00:14:28,227 pike over the next decade that 468 00:14:29,944 --> 00:14:30,194 leaves you all to have very 469 00:14:30,511 --> 00:14:30,761 tough choices ahead. 470 00:14:33,777 --> 00:14:34,027 furloughs and programmatic cuts 471 00:14:36,311 --> 00:14:36,561 have proven to be a permanent 472 00:14:38,244 --> 00:14:38,494 problem in a temporary solution. 473 00:14:40,244 --> 00:14:40,494 both calamity comes opportunity. 474 00:14:42,277 --> 00:14:42,527 today's agenda represents that 475 00:14:43,744 --> 00:14:43,994 opportunity to provide a tax 476 00:14:45,511 --> 00:14:45,761 code that is both uniform and 477 00:14:47,511 --> 00:14:47,761 equal in how we raise revenue 478 00:14:48,244 --> 00:14:48,494 and in turn the services that we 479 00:14:50,244 --> 00:14:50,494 providegether we can rem 480 00:14:52,277 --> 00:14:52,527 reimagine a state budget that 481 00:14:53,744 --> 00:14:53,994 works for everybody. Thank 482 00:14:54,477 --> 00:14:54,727 youchairneal and members of this 483 00:14:55,777 --> 00:14:56,027 committee for your work this 484 00:14:57,511 --> 00:14:57,761 interim for creating a fairer 485 00:14:58,277 --> 00:14:58,527 and more sustainable tax code. 486 00:14:58,944 --> 00:14:59,194 thank you. 487 00:15:06,211 --> 00:15:06,461 Hello my name is Nicole Chione 488 00:15:07,744 --> 00:15:07,994 and I manage the Nevada tobacco 489 00:15:09,711 --> 00:15:09,961 Control and Smokefree coalition. 490 00:15:11,511 --> 00:15:11,761 I'm here today to encourage this 491 00:15:12,211 --> 00:15:12,461 committee to continue its work 492 00:15:13,977 --> 00:15:14,227 on increasing Nevada's tobacco 493 00:15:16,211 --> 00:15:16,461 tax. first it first and foremost 494 00:15:17,711 --> 00:15:17,961 this is a public health 495 00:15:18,444 --> 00:15:18,694 initiative raising the price of 496 00:15:20,011 --> 00:15:20,261 tobacco remains one of the most 497 00:15:21,777 --> 00:15:22,027 effective tools we have to 498 00:15:23,544 --> 00:15:23,794 prevent young people from ever 499 00:15:24,311 --> 00:15:24,561 starting and to encourage 500 00:15:26,011 --> 00:15:26,261 current users to quit. The 501 00:15:27,744 --> 00:15:27,994 proposal presented to this 502 00:15:29,477 --> 00:15:29,727 committee in July increasing the 503 00:15:30,244 --> 00:15:30,494 cigarette tax by dollar75 cents 504 00:15:31,744 --> 00:15:31,994 per pack and bringing other 505 00:15:33,744 --> 00:15:33,994 tobacco products into tax parity 506 00:15:34,411 --> 00:15:34,661 is project 507 00:15:36,444 --> 00:15:36,694 ed to prevent approximately4,000 508 00:15:38,011 --> 00:15:38,261 Nevadicates from starting to 509 00:15:39,977 --> 00:15:40,227 smoke helped more than11,000 510 00:15:41,977 --> 00:15:42,227 adults quit and prevent 511 00:15:44,211 --> 00:15:44,461 nearly3900 premature deaths but 512 00:15:45,944 --> 00:15:46,194 there is also a significant 513 00:15:47,977 --> 00:15:48,227 fiscal benefit to the state. The 514 00:15:48,677 --> 00:15:48,927 proposal is projected to 515 00:15:50,211 --> 00:15:50,461 generate approximately66 million 516 00:15:53,511 --> 00:15:53,761 dollars in new annual revenue 517 00:15:55,477 --> 00:15:55,727 about51 million from cigarettes 518 00:15:57,744 --> 00:15:57,994 and14.6 million from parity for 519 00:15:59,977 --> 00:16:00,227 other tobacco products those 520 00:16:01,511 --> 00:16:01,761 projections already account for 521 00:16:02,244 --> 00:16:02,494 declining consumption and tax 522 00:16:03,677 --> 00:16:03,927 avoidance. We know from Nevada 523 00:16:06,211 --> 00:16:06,461 ' s own experience that reducing 524 00:16:07,744 --> 00:16:07,994 tobacco use and generating 525 00:16:09,511 --> 00:16:09,761 meaningful revenue are not 526 00:16:11,477 --> 00:16:11,727 mutually exclusive. after the 527 00:16:12,211 --> 00:16:12,461 state's last cigarette tax 528 00:16:15,477 --> 00:16:15,727 increase in 2015, annual tobacco 529 00:16:16,144 --> 00:16:16,394 tax revenue grew from 530 00:16:17,977 --> 00:16:18,227 approximately117 million dollars 531 00:16:19,977 --> 00:16:20,227 that year to more than156 532 00:16:22,211 --> 00:16:22,461 million dollars in 2025. The 533 00:16:23,944 --> 00:16:24,194 benefits extend beyond direct 534 00:16:24,611 --> 00:16:24,861 revenue 535 00:16:26,211 --> 00:16:26,461 The modeling projects more than 536 00:16:28,444 --> 00:16:28,694 $208 million in longterm 537 00:16:29,977 --> 00:16:30,227 healthcare savings including 538 00:16:31,744 --> 00:16:31,994 savings to medicaid and 539 00:16:33,477 --> 00:16:33,727 reductions of costs associated 540 00:16:35,511 --> 00:16:35,761 with cancer, cardiovascular 541 00:16:37,477 --> 00:16:37,727 diseases and smoking affected 542 00:16:39,477 --> 00:16:39,727 pregnancies and births. Nevada 543 00:16:40,177 --> 00:16:40,427 has an opportunity to enact a 544 00:16:42,011 --> 00:16:42,261 policy that prevents disease, 545 00:16:43,944 --> 00:16:44,194 saves lives, reduces future 546 00:16:45,944 --> 00:16:46,194 healthcare costs and provides 547 00:16:48,211 --> 00:16:48,461 significant new state revenue. I 548 00:16:49,777 --> 00:16:50,027 respectfully urge this committee 549 00:16:51,511 --> 00:16:51,761 to take up the tobacco tax 550 00:16:52,477 --> 00:16:52,727 proposal and continue the work 551 00:16:53,911 --> 00:16:54,161 necessary to move it forward in 552 00:16:54,577 --> 00:16:54,827 the 2027 legisl 553 00:16:56,244 --> 00:16:56,494 ative session thank you for your 554 00:16:56,944 --> 00:16:57,194 time and consideration. 555 00:17:02,277 --> 00:17:02,527 Good morning Chaneal and members 556 00:17:03,777 --> 00:17:04,027 of the committee I'm hector 557 00:17:05,511 --> 00:17:05,761 Arola policy fellow with the 558 00:17:06,144 --> 00:17:06,394 Nevada Environmental Justice 559 00:17:07,977 --> 00:17:08,227 Coalition and on behalf of our 560 00:17:10,011 --> 00:17:10,261 coalition we stand strong to 561 00:17:11,777 --> 00:17:12,027 support equitable tax reform 562 00:17:12,411 --> 00:17:12,661 that ensures funding for 563 00:17:14,311 --> 00:17:14,561 critical state services and 564 00:17:16,044 --> 00:17:16,294 ensures corporations finally pay 565 00:17:18,044 --> 00:17:18,294 their fair share in Nevada. for 566 00:17:19,511 --> 00:17:19,761 far too long working families 567 00:17:20,544 --> 00:17:20,794 have shouldered the burden while 568 00:17:22,077 --> 00:17:22,327 big businesses have not been 569 00:17:24,077 --> 00:17:24,327 held to the same standards we 570 00:17:25,544 --> 00:17:25,794 believe that when industries 571 00:17:26,377 --> 00:17:26,627 contribute fairly we can invest 572 00:17:28,311 --> 00:17:28,561 directly in making life easier, 573 00:17:29,877 --> 00:17:30,127 safer and more affordable for 574 00:17:30,511 --> 00:17:30,761 all Nevadans. 575 00:17:32,277 --> 00:17:32,527 due to recent federal decisions, 576 00:17:35,511 --> 00:17:35,761 Nevada significantly receives 577 00:17:36,311 --> 00:17:36,561 less federal funds in addition 578 00:17:38,044 --> 00:17:38,294 to our lack of state income tax 579 00:17:39,777 --> 00:17:40,027 revenue that gap leaves us with 580 00:17:41,877 --> 00:17:42,127 fewer sources to provide much 581 00:17:42,477 --> 00:17:42,727 needed services 582 00:17:44,544 --> 00:17:44,794 so now more than ever it falls 583 00:17:46,077 --> 00:17:46,327 on this body to identify ways to 584 00:17:47,777 --> 00:17:48,027 fill this budget shortfall and 585 00:17:50,011 --> 00:17:50,261 to to relieve the escalating 586 00:17:52,011 --> 00:17:52,261 affordability crisis to many 587 00:17:53,777 --> 00:17:54,027 to many Nevada families that 588 00:17:55,744 --> 00:17:55,994 have endured for the last few 589 00:17:57,511 --> 00:17:57,761 years we want to be very clear 590 00:17:58,144 --> 00:17:58,394 we do not support increasing 591 00:17:59,777 --> 00:18:00,027 regressive taxes and fees that 592 00:18:02,044 --> 00:18:02,294 fall on everydaynevadans and 593 00:18:04,044 --> 00:18:04,294 increase the cost of livingstead 594 00:18:05,511 --> 00:18:05,761 we urge you to focus on 595 00:18:06,377 --> 00:18:06,627 corporate and industrial taxes 596 00:18:07,044 --> 00:18:07,294 to carry a fairer load. 597 00:18:09,744 --> 00:18:09,994 Here's what that fair revenue 598 00:18:11,511 --> 00:18:11,761 can do for our state expand 599 00:18:13,544 --> 00:18:13,794 cooling hours cooling station 600 00:18:15,511 --> 00:18:15,761 center hours and station 601 00:18:16,244 --> 00:18:16,494 medicals emergency staff at the 602 00:18:18,544 --> 00:18:18,794 centers plan a drought 603 00:18:21,544 --> 00:18:21,794 tolerance shade tree canopy 604 00:18:22,177 --> 00:18:22,427 across our urban heat island 605 00:18:24,044 --> 00:18:24,294 neighborhoods improve air 606 00:18:25,677 --> 00:18:25,927 quality by replacing fossil fuel 607 00:18:28,277 --> 00:18:28,527 fossil fuel powered buses with 608 00:18:29,511 --> 00:18:29,761 zero emission electric 609 00:18:30,244 --> 00:18:30,494 alternatives likeevV buses and 610 00:18:32,244 --> 00:18:32,494 light rail redesign our roads 611 00:18:34,044 --> 00:18:34,294 and transit infrastructure to 612 00:18:35,744 --> 00:18:35,994 improve tracks traffic flow 613 00:18:37,777 --> 00:18:38,027 and make our streets safer and 614 00:18:38,477 --> 00:18:38,727 accessible and safe 615 00:18:42,244 --> 00:18:42,494 expand home weization and energy 616 00:18:44,011 --> 00:18:44,261 efficiency programs to provide 617 00:18:45,977 --> 00:18:46,227 relief to renters and homeowners 618 00:18:47,944 --> 00:18:48,194 with high energy burdens that 619 00:18:49,511 --> 00:18:49,761 means lowering utility bills for 620 00:18:50,277 --> 00:18:50,527 families and making our 621 00:18:52,244 --> 00:18:52,494 communities more resilient to 622 00:18:54,277 --> 00:18:54,527 extreme weather. these practices 623 00:18:57,511 --> 00:18:57,761 are practical life changing 624 00:18:58,144 --> 00:18:58,394 investments that address the 625 00:18:59,777 --> 00:19:00,027 real needs in every corner of 626 00:19:01,544 --> 00:19:01,794 our state Chair Neal and 627 00:19:02,244 --> 00:19:02,494 committee members we ask you to 628 00:19:04,277 --> 00:19:04,527 stand with working Nevadans and 629 00:19:06,244 --> 00:19:06,494 work towards innovative solution 630 00:19:08,411 --> 00:19:08,661 past tax reforms that are fair 631 00:19:09,077 --> 00:19:09,327 forward thinking and focused 632 00:19:11,744 --> 00:19:11,994 on the people who make Nevada 633 00:19:12,311 --> 00:19:12,561 strong. thank you for your time 634 00:19:13,677 --> 00:19:13,927 and to your service to the 635 00:19:14,211 --> 00:19:14,461 people of our state. 636 00:19:20,211 --> 00:19:20,461 Good morning chairneal and 637 00:19:21,744 --> 00:19:21,994 members of the committee my name 638 00:19:23,511 --> 00:19:23,761 is medina Youusovfzai and I 639 00:19:24,244 --> 00:19:24,494 serve as policy coordinator in 640 00:19:26,011 --> 00:19:26,261 South Asian organizer with 641 00:19:27,744 --> 00:19:27,994 oneapPI in Nevada, a grassroots 642 00:19:29,711 --> 00:19:29,961 nonprofit dedicated to advancing 643 00:19:31,744 --> 00:19:31,994 the civic participation of 644 00:19:32,511 --> 00:19:32,761 Asianer native Hawaiian and 645 00:19:34,011 --> 00:19:34,261 Pacific Islander communities 646 00:19:35,777 --> 00:19:36,027 across nevada. thank you for 647 00:19:37,511 --> 00:19:37,761 taking on this reexamination of 648 00:19:38,311 --> 00:19:38,561 our revenue streams this work 649 00:19:40,011 --> 00:19:40,261 matters directly to the families 650 00:19:41,777 --> 00:19:42,027 that we serve.c according to 651 00:19:44,277 --> 00:19:44,527 ITEPs who pays study, nevada has 652 00:19:45,511 --> 00:19:45,761 the fifth most regressive tax 653 00:19:46,277 --> 00:19:46,527 code in the country working 654 00:19:47,677 --> 00:19:47,927 families including the small 655 00:19:48,344 --> 00:19:48,594 business own 656 00:19:50,244 --> 00:19:50,494 ers and service workers in our 657 00:19:51,711 --> 00:19:51,961 community have carried more of 658 00:19:52,344 --> 00:19:52,594 that burden than they should. 659 00:19:55,744 --> 00:19:55,994 without new revenue 265,000 660 00:19:57,711 --> 00:19:57,961 Nevadans stand to lose snap 661 00:19:59,977 --> 00:20:00,227 access and14,000 could lose 662 00:20:01,511 --> 00:20:01,761 healthcare coverage. we are 663 00:20:02,144 --> 00:20:02,394 already seeing the strain 664 00:20:04,011 --> 00:20:04,261 locally our elders and limited 665 00:20:05,744 --> 00:20:05,994 English proficient neighbors are 666 00:20:07,477 --> 00:20:07,727 often the first to feel losses 667 00:20:08,244 --> 00:20:08,494 like these because they have the 668 00:20:10,277 --> 00:20:10,527 least room to absorb them. we 669 00:20:11,777 --> 00:20:12,027 also see this in the cost of 670 00:20:13,544 --> 00:20:13,794 raising a family here childcare 671 00:20:14,277 --> 00:20:14,527 innevada now costs more than 672 00:20:16,244 --> 00:20:16,494 college and programs like prek 673 00:20:18,044 --> 00:20:18,294 and headadart face a funding gap 674 00:20:20,044 --> 00:20:20,294 of over a billion dollars for 675 00:20:21,911 --> 00:20:22,161 many of our families raising the 676 00:20:22,577 --> 00:20:22,827 first generation to grow up in 677 00:20:25,544 --> 00:20:25,794 the va school system that gaphas 678 00:20:26,277 --> 00:20:26,527 whether a child gets the early 679 00:20:28,244 --> 00:20:28,494 support they need. We asked the 680 00:20:29,977 --> 00:20:30,227 committee to pursue revenue 681 00:20:31,511 --> 00:20:31,761 solutions that modernize our tax 682 00:20:32,244 --> 00:20:32,494 code and move us away from over 683 00:20:34,277 --> 00:20:34,527 reliance on regressive taxes, 684 00:20:35,977 --> 00:20:36,227 investing in public service, 685 00:20:37,811 --> 00:20:38,061 healthcare and child care is an 686 00:20:38,477 --> 00:20:38,727 investment in all of us. thank 687 00:20:39,144 --> 00:20:39,394 you for your time. 688 00:20:45,511 --> 00:20:45,761 Good morning Chairneal and 689 00:20:46,144 --> 00:20:46,394 members of the committee my name 690 00:20:48,011 --> 00:20:48,261 is Ronnie Young. I represent the 691 00:20:50,277 --> 00:20:50,527 IBW in Las Vegas, Nevada and I 692 00:20:51,777 --> 00:20:52,027 also speak on behalf of all the 693 00:20:52,511 --> 00:20:52,761 IBW within the state of Nevada 694 00:20:53,144 --> 00:20:53,394 in this moment 695 00:20:55,511 --> 00:20:55,761 and I just wanted to say thank 696 00:20:56,144 --> 00:20:56,394 you for all the work you're 697 00:20:57,477 --> 00:20:57,727 doing and the ongoing 698 00:20:58,211 --> 00:20:58,461 conversations chairneal that 699 00:20:59,777 --> 00:21:00,027 we've had regarding the data 700 00:21:03,511 --> 00:21:03,761 center tax incentives it 701 00:21:05,977 --> 00:21:06,227 is our stance that being good 702 00:21:08,011 --> 00:21:08,261 stewards of the state with in 703 00:21:09,977 --> 00:21:10,227 regards to economic 704 00:21:11,744 --> 00:21:11,994 development, environmental 705 00:21:13,744 --> 00:21:13,994 consciousness and and work and 706 00:21:15,544 --> 00:21:15,794 worker opportunities they're not 707 00:21:17,744 --> 00:21:17,994 mutually exclusive it is our 708 00:21:20,011 --> 00:21:20,261 stance that we feel that we can 709 00:21:21,744 --> 00:21:21,994 con we can ensure that 710 00:21:22,377 --> 00:21:22,627 ratepayers are not subsidizing 711 00:21:25,977 --> 00:21:26,227 cor po ration s being good 712 00:21:28,011 --> 00:21:28,261 stewards of water and the earth 713 00:21:29,777 --> 00:21:30,027 and provide good paying union 714 00:21:31,511 --> 00:21:31,761 jobs throughout the entire state 715 00:21:33,977 --> 00:21:34,227 of Nevada with data centers I 716 00:21:35,511 --> 00:21:35,761 think we just need to work 717 00:21:36,244 --> 00:21:36,494 collectively do it right which 718 00:21:38,044 --> 00:21:38,294 we I think we already are a good 719 00:21:39,511 --> 00:21:39,761 start and I know that there's a 720 00:21:40,277 --> 00:21:40,527 long road ahead and I appreciate 721 00:21:41,744 --> 00:21:41,994 the conversations that are 722 00:21:43,744 --> 00:21:43,994 already being had you know these 723 00:21:46,011 --> 00:21:46,261 are I could personally attest to 724 00:21:47,477 --> 00:21:47,727 someone that's built a data 725 00:21:49,511 --> 00:21:49,761 center here in Nevada before 726 00:21:50,111 --> 00:21:50,361 I came in this role that these 727 00:21:51,877 --> 00:21:52,127 are some of the safest cleanest 728 00:21:55,477 --> 00:21:55,727 best paying jobs a 729 00:21:56,211 --> 00:21:56,461 construction worker can work for 730 00:21:58,244 --> 00:21:58,494 that that gives them a longevity 731 00:21:59,777 --> 00:22:00,027 that is not usually seen in 732 00:22:01,511 --> 00:22:01,761 their industry but there are 733 00:22:03,511 --> 00:22:03,761 post construction opportunities 734 00:22:06,244 --> 00:22:06,494 that are I think a little 735 00:22:07,944 --> 00:22:08,194 lost in the in the noise and I 736 00:22:09,511 --> 00:22:09,761 think that they need to be 737 00:22:10,244 --> 00:22:10,494 highlighted a little bit more 738 00:22:12,011 --> 00:22:12,261 there is good paying post 739 00:22:13,744 --> 00:22:13,994 construction jobs depending on 740 00:22:15,977 --> 00:22:16,227 the scale of the data centers 741 00:22:17,777 --> 00:22:18,027 and while this these tax 742 00:22:19,511 --> 00:22:19,761 incentives have been in place 743 00:22:20,177 --> 00:22:20,427 for a long time we're not 744 00:22:21,877 --> 00:22:22,127 advocating for an increase in 745 00:22:22,577 --> 00:22:22,827 them. we just we 746 00:22:24,011 --> 00:22:24,261 asking that they stay the same 747 00:22:26,011 --> 00:22:26,261 and if and if we can make them 748 00:22:28,011 --> 00:22:28,261 into something that incentivizes 749 00:22:29,777 --> 00:22:30,027 the good actors to come to the 750 00:22:31,511 --> 00:22:31,761 state of Nevada I think it could 751 00:22:33,511 --> 00:22:33,761 be a wonderful win for everybody 752 00:22:34,244 --> 00:22:34,494 so thank you for your time and 753 00:22:35,677 --> 00:22:35,927 look forward to working with 754 00:22:36,344 --> 00:22:36,594 everyone in the future. 755 00:22:43,711 --> 00:22:43,961 so we will go to public comment 756 00:22:44,377 --> 00:22:44,627 in carson 757 00:22:49,977 --> 00:22:50,227 Good morning chairirneal and 758 00:22:51,511 --> 00:22:51,761 members of the committee my name 759 00:22:53,511 --> 00:22:53,761 is lisaafferetta, I am the 760 00:22:55,511 --> 00:22:55,761 executive director of the 761 00:22:58,277 --> 00:22:58,527 children's advocacy alliance a 762 00:23:01,477 --> 00:23:01,727 nonprofit nonpartisan statewide 763 00:23:02,211 --> 00:23:02,461 advocacy organization for 764 00:23:03,744 --> 00:23:03,994 children and families in our 765 00:23:05,744 --> 00:23:05,994 state and I'm here to talk 766 00:23:07,744 --> 00:23:07,994 briefly about what new revenue 767 00:23:09,744 --> 00:23:09,994 would mean for nevada's children 768 00:23:11,511 --> 00:23:11,761 you've already heard a little 769 00:23:13,711 --> 00:23:13,961 bit about childcare as many 770 00:23:15,777 --> 00:23:16,027 of you know after theOvid funds 771 00:23:16,444 --> 00:23:16,694 were finished up the 772 00:23:20,211 --> 00:23:20,461 eligibility for the childcare 773 00:23:21,977 --> 00:23:22,227 subsidy was reduced in nevada 774 00:23:26,011 --> 00:23:26,261 from85% to41% of the state 775 00:23:28,244 --> 00:23:28,494 median income we are currently 776 00:23:31,477 --> 00:23:31,727 serving around6000 children and 777 00:23:32,411 --> 00:23:32,661 families with that money and 778 00:23:35,744 --> 00:23:35,994 that represents fewer than10% of 779 00:23:38,011 --> 00:23:38,261 the eligible families we are 780 00:23:40,011 --> 00:23:40,261 working on a plan to create a 781 00:23:42,044 --> 00:23:42,294 statef funded childcare 782 00:23:44,444 --> 00:23:44,694 investment fund and just to 783 00:23:46,011 --> 00:23:46,261 double the number of children 784 00:23:46,677 --> 00:23:46,927 being served and bring it up 785 00:23:51,511 --> 00:23:51,761 to possibly close to 20% we 786 00:23:53,511 --> 00:23:53,761 would be looking at150 million 787 00:23:55,777 --> 00:23:56,027 dollars per year or300 million 788 00:23:57,977 --> 00:23:58,227 over the biennium so new 789 00:23:59,977 --> 00:24:00,227 revenues are critical to be able 790 00:24:02,411 --> 00:24:02,661 to serve these families who so 791 00:24:04,244 --> 00:24:04,494 much need this service and 792 00:24:06,211 --> 00:24:06,461 support in terms of childcare 793 00:24:07,977 --> 00:24:08,227 so they can go to work and 794 00:24:10,011 --> 00:24:10,261 provide a decent living for 795 00:24:13,477 --> 00:24:13,727 their families in the area of 796 00:24:15,511 --> 00:24:15,761 children's health we passed or 797 00:24:16,344 --> 00:24:16,594 the legislature passed last 798 00:24:16,911 --> 00:24:17,161 session SB16 799 00:24:20,244 --> 00:24:20,494 5 which creates a behavioral 800 00:24:22,011 --> 00:24:22,261 health and wellness practitioner 801 00:24:24,044 --> 00:24:24,294 license. this is a new license 802 00:24:26,011 --> 00:24:26,261 of healthcare provider that can 803 00:24:28,244 --> 00:24:28,494 help do early interventions and 804 00:24:29,977 --> 00:24:30,227 supports for children with 805 00:24:31,744 --> 00:24:31,994 mental and behavioral health 806 00:24:33,511 --> 00:24:33,761 needs before they get to the 807 00:24:35,744 --> 00:24:35,994 crisis point to fully implement 808 00:24:37,744 --> 00:24:37,994 this bill which was funded last 809 00:24:39,744 --> 00:24:39,994 session we need to make sure our 810 00:24:41,744 --> 00:24:41,994 licensing boards have the staff 811 00:24:43,711 --> 00:24:43,961 that they need to process these 812 00:24:45,777 --> 00:24:46,027 new license applications as well 813 00:24:46,444 --> 00:24:46,694 as support thenevada healthalth 814 00:24:47,111 --> 00:24:47,361 Authority and 815 00:24:50,544 --> 00:24:50,794 their ability to credential 816 00:24:53,744 --> 00:24:53,994 providers and then also support 817 00:24:55,977 --> 00:24:56,227 uhmCOs in their contracting with 818 00:24:58,277 --> 00:24:58,527 providers we are still hearing 819 00:24:59,811 --> 00:25:00,061 from families that they're 820 00:25:00,344 --> 00:25:00,594 having difficulty getting the 821 00:25:02,277 --> 00:25:02,527 appointments and the services 822 00:25:03,777 --> 00:25:04,027 that they need and we need a 823 00:25:05,511 --> 00:25:05,761 little bit of infrastructure 824 00:25:07,511 --> 00:25:07,761 support to make that a reality 825 00:25:09,977 --> 00:25:10,227 and finally in child welfare 826 00:25:12,211 --> 00:25:12,461 we s we spend most of our money 827 00:25:15,744 --> 00:25:15,994 in terms of care foster care 828 00:25:16,344 --> 00:25:16,594 and interventions later on in 829 00:25:17,011 --> 00:25:17,261 the process 830 00:25:20,444 --> 00:25:20,694 we need to invest more in 831 00:25:22,244 --> 00:25:22,494 prevention and early investments 832 00:25:24,277 --> 00:25:24,527 in supporting families so they 833 00:25:26,344 --> 00:25:26,594 don't become system involved so 834 00:25:28,277 --> 00:25:28,527 they aren't dealing with crisis 835 00:25:30,244 --> 00:25:30,494 situations and this is another 836 00:25:32,477 --> 00:25:32,727 place where new revenue that is 837 00:25:35,511 --> 00:25:35,761 sustained and reliable will make 838 00:25:36,211 --> 00:25:36,461 a significant difference for 839 00:25:39,511 --> 00:25:39,761 Nevada families so we very much 840 00:25:40,211 --> 00:25:40,461 support the work you have been 841 00:25:42,211 --> 00:25:42,461 doing and looking at finding 842 00:25:44,211 --> 00:25:44,461 ways to create sustainable 843 00:25:46,311 --> 00:25:46,561 reliable funding investments for 844 00:25:47,011 --> 00:25:47,261 the children of Nevada 845 00:25:49,844 --> 00:25:50,094 and we support your work thank 846 00:25:50,511 --> 00:25:50,761 you very much 847 00:25:55,977 --> 00:25:56,227 thank you for that so we will go 848 00:25:56,611 --> 00:25:56,861 to the phone lines 849 00:26:03,544 --> 00:26:03,794 if you would like to provide 850 00:26:05,511 --> 00:26:05,761 public comment, please press 851 00:26:06,244 --> 00:26:06,494 star 9 to take your place in the 852 00:26:08,244 --> 00:26:08,494 queue. Again if you wish to 853 00:26:10,277 --> 00:26:10,527 provide public comment please 854 00:26:12,377 --> 00:26:12,627 press 9 to take your place in 855 00:26:13,077 --> 00:26:13,327 the queue. 856 00:26:29,811 --> 00:26:30,061 Hello can you hear 857 00:26:33,677 --> 00:26:33,927 Yes, go ahead 858 00:26:38,044 --> 00:26:38,294 great thank you. hi my name is 859 00:26:41,511 --> 00:26:41,761 Elizabeth Breeassper I 860 00:26:43,744 --> 00:26:43,994 live600 feet from the Keystone 861 00:26:44,444 --> 00:26:44,694 datataenter that they're 862 00:26:45,011 --> 00:26:45,261 building in Reno, Nevada 863 00:26:47,511 --> 00:26:47,761 was not 864 00:26:48,411 --> 00:26:48,661 notified about this 865 00:26:51,744 --> 00:26:51,994 ahead of time and then they 866 00:26:53,744 --> 00:26:53,994 started building the data center 867 00:26:57,777 --> 00:26:58,027 and now my income as a rental 868 00:27:00,044 --> 00:27:00,294 will be significantly changed my 869 00:27:02,011 --> 00:27:02,261 property value has already 870 00:27:03,677 --> 00:27:03,927 decreased over $200,000 871 00:27:08,011 --> 00:27:08,261 my taxes now for my motherinlaw 872 00:27:10,177 --> 00:27:10,427 quarters is more are more each 873 00:27:11,877 --> 00:27:12,127 quarter than it is for my main 874 00:27:12,544 --> 00:27:12,794 house 875 00:27:14,644 --> 00:27:14,894 and things just aren't making 876 00:27:15,311 --> 00:27:15,561 sense. I urge 877 00:27:19,511 --> 00:27:19,761 this committee to please 878 00:27:21,511 --> 00:27:21,761 reevaluate the tax abatements 879 00:27:23,744 --> 00:27:23,994 and income incentives granted to 880 00:27:26,344 --> 00:27:26,594 heavy load low job created data 881 00:27:27,044 --> 00:27:27,294 centers 882 00:27:31,511 --> 00:27:31,761 I request require a strict 883 00:27:32,477 --> 00:27:32,727 fiscal and resource impact 884 00:27:35,511 --> 00:27:35,761 studies being addressed on how 885 00:27:36,211 --> 00:27:36,461 the grid updates and water 886 00:27:38,011 --> 00:27:38,261 consumptions affect local 887 00:27:40,211 --> 00:27:40,461 taxpayers before any new 888 00:27:40,777 --> 00:27:41,027 developments are green lit. 889 00:27:43,977 --> 00:27:44,227 and they also ask to ensure that 890 00:27:46,011 --> 00:27:46,261 the financial burdens of 891 00:27:48,011 --> 00:27:48,261 powering these massive complexes 892 00:27:49,511 --> 00:27:49,761 f fall squarely on the 893 00:27:51,511 --> 00:27:51,761 developers and corporate 894 00:27:52,211 --> 00:27:52,461 entities profiting from them and 895 00:27:55,511 --> 00:27:55,761 not from the working families as 896 00:27:56,244 --> 00:27:56,494 it is you have the majority of 897 00:27:58,511 --> 00:27:58,761 people in my area unable to pay 898 00:28:00,277 --> 00:28:00,527 for their power bills we're 899 00:28:02,277 --> 00:28:02,527 talking about adding more fees 900 00:28:05,977 --> 00:28:06,227 to our Nvy bill when my neighbor 901 00:28:08,011 --> 00:28:08,261 on one side can't even stay 902 00:28:08,611 --> 00:28:08,861 inside their home during the 903 00:28:09,277 --> 00:28:09,527 heat 904 00:28:12,211 --> 00:28:12,461 so for the last three months 905 00:28:13,711 --> 00:28:13,961 they haven't been inside their 906 00:28:15,511 --> 00:28:15,761 home during the day and have to 907 00:28:17,511 --> 00:28:17,761 go down to the river to find 908 00:28:18,077 --> 00:28:18,327 some reprieve from the heat 909 00:28:22,044 --> 00:28:22,294 on the other side of my house 910 00:28:23,744 --> 00:28:23,994 my neighbor can't afford the 911 00:28:25,977 --> 00:28:26,227 heat and is burning pallets 912 00:28:28,177 --> 00:28:28,427 because we don't have we're all 913 00:28:30,244 --> 00:28:30,494 on oil heat and to have oil 914 00:28:32,011 --> 00:28:32,261 delivered has gotten so 915 00:28:34,277 --> 00:28:34,527 expensive it is unbelievable. I 916 00:28:36,377 --> 00:28:36,627 just ask that the committee to 917 00:28:37,044 --> 00:28:37,294 please see 918 00:28:38,144 --> 00:28:38,394 the 919 00:28:40,477 --> 00:28:40,727 humans that live inside this 920 00:28:42,277 --> 00:28:42,527 state as more than just 921 00:28:45,477 --> 00:28:45,727 stakeholders but as 922 00:28:47,477 --> 00:28:47,727 individuals that need freshwa 923 00:28:48,144 --> 00:28:48,394 and need 924 00:28:50,277 --> 00:28:50,527 the ability to afford our 925 00:28:52,744 --> 00:28:52,994 utilities as well as our homes 926 00:28:53,411 --> 00:28:53,661 thank you so much for your time 927 00:28:54,077 --> 00:28:54,327 today. 928 00:28:57,644 --> 00:28:57,894 Thank you next 929 00:29:09,511 --> 00:29:09,761 thank you chairneal on the 930 00:29:10,077 --> 00:29:10,327 committee my name is Shelby 931 00:29:12,211 --> 00:29:12,461 Swchwartz S W A R T Z and I am 932 00:29:13,711 --> 00:29:13,961 the executive director of 933 00:29:15,511 --> 00:29:15,761 Battleburnne Progress. I'm also 934 00:29:16,177 --> 00:29:16,427 the mom of two young boys and 935 00:29:17,944 --> 00:29:18,194 like so many Nevada families I 936 00:29:18,677 --> 00:29:18,927 think about our state budget in 937 00:29:21,511 --> 00:29:21,761 very practical terms Can my kids 938 00:29:22,211 --> 00:29:22,461 get the healthcare that they 939 00:29:23,511 --> 00:29:23,761 need? Will their schools have 940 00:29:24,111 --> 00:29:24,361 enough teachers and support 941 00:29:25,777 --> 00:29:26,027 staff can families afford 942 00:29:27,477 --> 00:29:27,727 childcare housing, groceries and 943 00:29:28,177 --> 00:29:28,427 utilities while still getting 944 00:29:28,844 --> 00:29:29,094 ahead. 945 00:29:31,877 --> 00:29:32,127 our state budget helps determine 946 00:29:32,544 --> 00:29:32,794 the answers to those questions 947 00:29:34,244 --> 00:29:34,494 it funds healthcare schools for 948 00:29:36,011 --> 00:29:36,261 early childhood through higher 949 00:29:37,744 --> 00:29:37,994 education good paying jobs 950 00:29:39,511 --> 00:29:39,761 infrastructure and so much more 951 00:29:40,211 --> 00:29:40,461 but we cannot talk about what 952 00:29:41,744 --> 00:29:41,994 our state funds without also 953 00:29:43,477 --> 00:29:43,727 talking about who is being asked 954 00:29:44,511 --> 00:29:44,761 to pay for it. Nevada has the 955 00:29:46,011 --> 00:29:46,261 fifth most aggressive tax system 956 00:29:48,011 --> 00:29:48,261 in the country. the lowest 957 00:29:49,744 --> 00:29:49,994 income Nevadans pay nearly12% of 958 00:29:50,511 --> 00:29:50,761 their income in state and local 959 00:29:52,277 --> 00:29:52,527 taxes while the wealthiest1% pay 960 00:29:52,977 --> 00:29:53,227 less than3%. 961 00:29:55,744 --> 00:29:55,994 that means the families with the 962 00:29:57,744 --> 00:29:57,994 least are paying proportionally 963 00:29:59,477 --> 00:29:59,727 more than4 times what the 964 00:30:00,211 --> 00:30:00,461 wealthiest Nevadans pay and 965 00:30:02,011 --> 00:30:02,261 families feel the consequences 966 00:30:03,744 --> 00:30:03,994 of that imbalance every single 967 00:30:05,477 --> 00:30:05,727 day we see it in healthcare 968 00:30:06,244 --> 00:30:06,494 providers shortages and longer 969 00:30:07,777 --> 00:30:08,027 waits for care we see it in 970 00:30:08,411 --> 00:30:08,661 overcrowded classrooms 971 00:30:10,244 --> 00:30:10,494 overworked educators and support 972 00:30:12,277 --> 00:30:12,527 staff stretched far too thin. We 973 00:30:13,777 --> 00:30:14,027 see it whenevernevadans are 974 00:30:14,477 --> 00:30:14,727 forced to make tough choices to 975 00:30:15,111 --> 00:30:15,361 do more with less. 976 00:30:17,711 --> 00:30:17,961 but our government has choices 977 00:30:19,711 --> 00:30:19,961 to make too as governorlombardo 978 00:30:21,511 --> 00:30:21,761 himself said recently Nevada's 979 00:30:22,511 --> 00:30:22,761 limited resources can only do so 980 00:30:24,244 --> 00:30:24,494 much, which begs the question 981 00:30:25,744 --> 00:30:25,994 why are our resources so 982 00:30:26,311 --> 00:30:26,561 limited? 983 00:30:28,344 --> 00:30:28,594 I appreciate that senator Neal 984 00:30:29,777 --> 00:30:30,027 has led this committee as it has 985 00:30:31,511 --> 00:30:31,761 spent the interim seriously 986 00:30:32,244 --> 00:30:32,494 examining the that exact 987 00:30:34,044 --> 00:30:34,294 challenge and looking for 988 00:30:35,511 --> 00:30:35,761 solutions underder your 989 00:30:36,011 --> 00:30:36,261 leadership we have an 990 00:30:37,777 --> 00:30:38,027 opportunity to build something 991 00:30:39,777 --> 00:30:40,027 better as a mom I want my kids 992 00:30:40,411 --> 00:30:40,661 to grow up in anevada where 993 00:30:41,777 --> 00:30:42,027 grade schools quality 994 00:30:43,511 --> 00:30:43,761 healthcare, safe communities and 995 00:30:44,277 --> 00:30:44,527 economic opportunity are things 996 00:30:46,044 --> 00:30:46,294 that every family can count on 997 00:30:47,844 --> 00:30:48,094 Nothing would disappear whenever 998 00:30:48,511 --> 00:30:48,761 the budget gets tight. 999 00:30:51,544 --> 00:30:51,794 that requires a tax system where 1000 00:30:52,277 --> 00:30:52,527 everyone pays their fair share 1001 00:30:53,777 --> 00:30:54,027 or the people with the lease are 1002 00:30:55,511 --> 00:30:55,761 no longer asked to shoulder the 1003 00:30:56,144 --> 00:30:56,394 greatest burden and where our 1004 00:30:58,011 --> 00:30:58,261 revenue actually grows alongside 1005 00:30:59,777 --> 00:31:00,027 our state thank you toyerneal 1006 00:31:01,544 --> 00:31:01,794 and the members of the committee 1007 00:31:02,211 --> 00:31:02,461 for the work you have done this 1008 00:31:03,544 --> 00:31:03,794 interim and for continuing the 1009 00:31:04,177 --> 00:31:04,427 conversation about how we build 1010 00:31:05,977 --> 00:31:06,227 anevada that works for everybody 1011 00:31:06,677 --> 00:31:06,927 and not just the select few 1012 00:31:11,911 --> 00:31:12,161 Thank you.ext coer 1013 00:31:26,277 --> 00:31:26,527 good morning members of interim 1014 00:31:28,011 --> 00:31:28,261 revenue Committee for the record 1015 00:31:29,511 --> 00:31:29,761 my name is Eddie Apoliser with 1016 00:31:32,244 --> 00:31:32,494 ristrategies and pmI I am 1017 00:31:35,544 --> 00:31:35,794 calling in today to address the 1018 00:31:37,844 --> 00:31:38,094 work session item E7 as the 1019 00:31:38,411 --> 00:31:38,661 committee reviews 1020 00:31:40,244 --> 00:31:40,494 the tax structure on tobacco 1021 00:31:41,711 --> 00:31:41,961 products in the state of Nevada. 1022 00:31:46,044 --> 00:31:46,294 we're calling to encourage the 1023 00:31:48,044 --> 00:31:48,294 committee to review what many 1024 00:31:49,744 --> 00:31:49,994 other states across the country 1025 00:31:52,011 --> 00:31:52,261 have done which is including a 1026 00:31:54,244 --> 00:31:54,494 modifiedri tobacco product the 1027 00:31:56,311 --> 00:31:56,561 MRTP designation as authorized 1028 00:31:57,877 --> 00:31:58,127 by theood andug Administration. 1029 00:32:01,777 --> 00:32:02,027 these products have gone through 1030 00:32:02,477 --> 00:32:02,727 significant and timely 1031 00:32:06,011 --> 00:32:06,261 scientific analysis and received 1032 00:32:08,311 --> 00:32:08,561 MRTP designations because of 1033 00:32:10,277 --> 00:32:10,527 their demonstration of moving 1034 00:32:12,044 --> 00:32:12,294 consumers off of extremely 1035 00:32:14,044 --> 00:32:14,294 dangerous cigarettes that harms 1036 00:32:15,777 --> 00:32:16,027 the individual in public health 1037 00:32:19,511 --> 00:32:19,761 onto a less harmful option and 1038 00:32:21,544 --> 00:32:21,794 still allows the consumer to 1039 00:32:22,177 --> 00:32:22,427 partake in their consumption of 1040 00:32:22,844 --> 00:32:23,094 nicotine. 1041 00:32:25,744 --> 00:32:25,994 we encourage the committee to 1042 00:32:27,977 --> 00:32:28,227 review MRTP discounts as many 1043 00:32:29,744 --> 00:32:29,994 other states have done when 1044 00:32:31,777 --> 00:32:32,027 you're analyzing the tax code as 1045 00:32:34,311 --> 00:32:34,561 a possible BDr we're hopeful 1046 00:32:37,511 --> 00:32:37,761 that in engaging in an MRTP 1047 00:32:39,777 --> 00:32:40,027 discount the method would 1048 00:32:41,777 --> 00:32:42,027 incentivize the use of these 1049 00:32:43,544 --> 00:32:43,794 harm reduction tobacco products 1050 00:32:44,177 --> 00:32:44,427 into the state of Nevada which 1051 00:32:46,311 --> 00:32:46,561 are currently not being sold 1052 00:32:48,277 --> 00:32:48,527 because it incentivizes 1053 00:32:51,511 --> 00:32:51,761 consumers to purchase and use 1054 00:32:52,411 --> 00:32:52,661 cigarettes instead of instead of 1055 00:32:53,077 --> 00:32:53,327 these MRTP 1056 00:32:55,777 --> 00:32:56,027 products thank you for your time 1057 00:32:57,677 --> 00:32:57,927 and attention to this we look 1058 00:32:58,344 --> 00:32:58,594 forward to working with you in 1059 00:32:59,011 --> 00:32:59,261 the future. 1060 00:33:04,344 --> 00:33:04,594 Thank you next caller 1061 00:33:17,477 --> 00:33:17,727 co her with the last three 1062 00:33:20,344 --> 00:33:20,594 digits 270 please press6 to 1063 00:33:20,877 --> 00:33:21,127 unmute yourself. 1064 00:33:28,011 --> 00:33:28,261 Good morning toneal and members 1065 00:33:29,511 --> 00:33:29,761 of the committee this is 1066 00:33:30,277 --> 00:33:30,527 Christian Solomon and I serve as 1067 00:33:33,511 --> 00:33:33,761 the western director of rise we 1068 00:33:34,277 --> 00:33:34,527 are a Gen Z advocacy 1069 00:33:36,344 --> 00:33:36,594 organization serving Nevada's 1070 00:33:38,044 --> 00:33:38,294 college students and youth. I'm 1071 00:33:39,511 --> 00:33:39,761 speaking in support of the 1072 00:33:41,777 --> 00:33:42,027 ongoing efforts to reexamine our 1073 00:33:43,777 --> 00:33:44,027 tax code and modernize revenue 1074 00:33:45,511 --> 00:33:45,761 which will be crucial to shaping 1075 00:33:46,277 --> 00:33:46,527 the future for our young 1076 00:33:47,777 --> 00:33:48,027 Nevadans that we can all be 1077 00:33:49,777 --> 00:33:50,027 proud of. We envision a future 1078 00:33:51,511 --> 00:33:51,761 where our state is in a much 1079 00:33:52,277 --> 00:33:52,527 better position to fund higher 1080 00:33:54,644 --> 00:33:54,894 education and prevent the burden 1081 00:33:55,311 --> 00:33:55,561 of tuition rate increases 1082 00:33:57,744 --> 00:33:57,994 from falling on the backs of 1083 00:33:59,744 --> 00:33:59,994 students and working families 1084 00:34:01,744 --> 00:34:01,994 where a state education can 1085 00:34:02,344 --> 00:34:02,594 remain affordable for young 1086 00:34:04,211 --> 00:34:04,461 Nevadans and the faculty who run 1087 00:34:06,444 --> 00:34:06,694 it can maintain decent pay and 1088 00:34:08,277 --> 00:34:08,527 benefits we want a future where 1089 00:34:10,011 --> 00:34:10,261 students can have reprieve 1090 00:34:11,777 --> 00:34:12,027 knowing that critical services 1091 00:34:13,777 --> 00:34:14,027 like regional transportation are 1092 00:34:15,777 --> 00:34:16,027 robust and can get them to their 1093 00:34:17,744 --> 00:34:17,994 jobs their classes and their 1094 00:34:19,511 --> 00:34:19,761 recreation on time and 1095 00:34:21,511 --> 00:34:21,761 unencumbered where transit is 1096 00:34:22,277 --> 00:34:22,527 accessible to all corners of our 1097 00:34:24,311 --> 00:34:24,561 state and to everyone on the 1098 00:34:24,977 --> 00:34:25,227 socioeconomic scale 1099 00:34:27,744 --> 00:34:27,994 despite the national 1100 00:34:29,477 --> 00:34:29,727 affordability crisis that we're 1101 00:34:31,477 --> 00:34:31,727 seeing today young people are 1102 00:34:32,277 --> 00:34:32,527 not looking to Washington for 1103 00:34:33,977 --> 00:34:34,227 the sweeping changes needed to 1104 00:34:36,011 --> 00:34:36,261 make this future a reality we're 1105 00:34:36,711 --> 00:34:36,961 looking to our neighbors in 1106 00:34:39,511 --> 00:34:39,761 front of us hearing his body in 1107 00:34:41,511 --> 00:34:41,761 a municipal bodies across our 1108 00:34:42,244 --> 00:34:42,494 state to formulate sustainable 1109 00:34:44,044 --> 00:34:44,294 revenue plans that will turn our 1110 00:34:44,744 --> 00:34:44,994 goals into a reality 1111 00:34:47,511 --> 00:34:47,761 thank you so much to chairir 1112 00:34:49,477 --> 00:34:49,727 Neal and vice chairirbacchus for 1113 00:34:50,177 --> 00:34:50,427 your cons consistent leadership 1114 00:34:52,244 --> 00:34:52,494 on revenue and to the rest of 1115 00:34:53,677 --> 00:34:53,927 the committee for your work have 1116 00:34:54,344 --> 00:34:54,594 a good one. 1117 00:35:00,511 --> 00:35:00,761 Thank you.ext caller. 1118 00:35:13,911 --> 00:35:14,161 you hear me 1119 00:35:15,811 --> 00:35:16,061 yes go ahead 1120 00:35:17,877 --> 00:35:18,127 thank you 1121 00:35:20,244 --> 00:35:20,494 good morning chairneal and 1122 00:35:21,744 --> 00:35:21,994 members of the committee my name 1123 00:35:23,777 --> 00:35:24,027 is Naomijoy and I'm a resident 1124 00:35:25,944 --> 00:35:26,194 of henderson, Nevada in89011. 1125 00:35:28,011 --> 00:35:28,261 I'm calling in today just to 1126 00:35:30,244 --> 00:35:30,494 voice my support in repealing 1127 00:35:32,011 --> 00:35:32,261 Nevada's data center tax 1128 00:35:34,011 --> 00:35:34,261 abatements our economy, food 1129 00:35:35,777 --> 00:35:36,027 prices, housing costs and 1130 00:35:36,511 --> 00:35:36,761 healthcare have all increased 1131 00:35:37,977 --> 00:35:38,227 exponentially especially over 1132 00:35:40,211 --> 00:35:40,461 the last18 months and Nevadans 1133 00:35:42,011 --> 00:35:42,261 have suffered the consequences. 1134 00:35:43,711 --> 00:35:43,961 We need money invested in the 1135 00:35:45,511 --> 00:35:45,761 people and not big tech. I do 1136 00:35:46,244 --> 00:35:46,494 applaudsenator Neal and 1137 00:35:48,211 --> 00:35:48,461 encourage each of you to support 1138 00:35:50,011 --> 00:35:50,261 her efforts and any of that rain 1139 00:35:51,777 --> 00:35:52,027 and dennisstators 1140 00:35:53,511 --> 00:35:53,761 surveillance tack and any other 1141 00:35:54,244 --> 00:35:54,494 services or products that 1142 00:35:55,844 --> 00:35:56,094 support their operations they 1143 00:35:56,544 --> 00:35:56,794 are a threat to our economy 1144 00:35:58,244 --> 00:35:58,494 our environment and our First 1145 00:36:00,244 --> 00:36:00,494 Amendment rights. We deserve to 1146 00:36:02,244 --> 00:36:02,494 not merely survive but to thrive 1147 00:36:05,511 --> 00:36:05,761 here as Nevadans and we're tired 1148 00:36:06,177 --> 00:36:06,427 of waiting for our leadership to 1149 00:36:07,544 --> 00:36:07,794 put the people first. please 1150 00:36:09,544 --> 00:36:09,794 remember us in your legislative 1151 00:36:10,244 --> 00:36:10,494 decisions moving forward thank 1152 00:36:10,877 --> 00:36:11,127 you for your work thus far. 1153 00:36:15,677 --> 00:36:15,927 Thank you.ext caller 1154 00:36:25,544 --> 00:36:25,794 Good morning members of the 1155 00:36:27,511 --> 00:36:27,761 committee and chair Senator Neal 1156 00:36:28,177 --> 00:36:28,427 for the record my name is Julie 1157 00:36:28,877 --> 00:36:29,127 Kemp. 1158 00:36:30,044 --> 00:36:30,294 I wanted to show my support for 1159 00:36:32,077 --> 00:36:32,327 abDR which would end tax 1160 00:36:32,611 --> 00:36:32,861 abatements for data centers 1161 00:36:35,511 --> 00:36:35,761 as a community we are fighting 1162 00:36:36,277 --> 00:36:36,527 all over the valley against data 1163 00:36:37,777 --> 00:36:38,027 centers being built in our 1164 00:36:39,544 --> 00:36:39,794 backyard for many reasons 1165 00:36:40,111 --> 00:36:40,361 including the quality of our 1166 00:36:42,044 --> 00:36:42,294 air, water, the preservation of 1167 00:36:44,044 --> 00:36:44,294 our water and energy and the pre 1168 00:36:45,477 --> 00:36:45,727 prevention of mass surveillance 1169 00:36:46,277 --> 00:36:46,527 and the prevention of unwanted 1170 00:36:48,044 --> 00:36:48,294 Ai takeover which is looking 1171 00:36:49,777 --> 00:36:50,027 more and more like a threat to 1172 00:36:51,811 --> 00:36:52,061 human existence. we do not want 1173 00:36:53,511 --> 00:36:53,761 data centers and our local 1174 00:36:54,144 --> 00:36:54,394 government officials were 1175 00:36:55,777 --> 00:36:56,027 elected to represent the people 1176 00:36:56,411 --> 00:36:56,661 and what we want for our 1177 00:36:58,044 --> 00:36:58,294 communities as this is how 1178 00:36:59,544 --> 00:36:59,794 democracy is supposed to work 1179 00:37:01,511 --> 00:37:01,761 not the other way around with 1180 00:37:02,111 --> 00:37:02,361 that, I thank you for looking to 1181 00:37:02,811 --> 00:37:03,061 the public for 1182 00:37:05,544 --> 00:37:05,794 our thoughts and opinions on tax 1183 00:37:06,311 --> 00:37:06,561 abatements for data centers by 1184 00:37:08,011 --> 00:37:08,261 removing tax abatements for data 1185 00:37:09,744 --> 00:37:09,994 centers you accomplish two 1186 00:37:11,744 --> 00:37:11,994 objectives first you remove a 1187 00:37:13,511 --> 00:37:13,761 large incentive from these large 1188 00:37:14,244 --> 00:37:14,494 corporations who are clamoring 1189 00:37:15,977 --> 00:37:16,227 to build in our communities and 1190 00:37:17,511 --> 00:37:17,761 protected government land. 1191 00:37:19,544 --> 00:37:19,794 Second, you make space for other 1192 00:37:20,277 --> 00:37:20,527 businesses to come in who 1193 00:37:22,044 --> 00:37:22,294 contribute positively to our 1194 00:37:24,244 --> 00:37:24,494 economy by creating meaningful 1195 00:37:25,811 --> 00:37:26,061 long lasting jobs and are better 1196 00:37:26,577 --> 00:37:26,827 for our environment and 1197 00:37:28,244 --> 00:37:28,494 humanity. It gives me hope to 1198 00:37:29,777 --> 00:37:30,027 think about a future in Nevada 1199 00:37:31,511 --> 00:37:31,761 where we foster a sense of 1200 00:37:32,111 --> 00:37:32,361 community and sustainability to 1201 00:37:32,744 --> 00:37:32,994 the growth of small 1202 00:37:35,444 --> 00:37:35,694 businesses who supply good 1203 00:37:36,511 --> 00:37:36,761 paying jobs products and 1204 00:37:37,777 --> 00:37:38,027 services to our local 1205 00:37:39,511 --> 00:37:39,761 communities somewherewhere along 1206 00:37:40,244 --> 00:37:40,494 the way the corporate takeover 1207 00:37:42,277 --> 00:37:42,527 of our entire economy has 1208 00:37:44,011 --> 00:37:44,261 rendered us reliant on companies 1209 00:37:45,744 --> 00:37:45,994 who care more about their bottom 1210 00:37:46,544 --> 00:37:46,794 line in shareholders than the 1211 00:37:48,111 --> 00:37:48,361 members of our communities who 1212 00:37:49,777 --> 00:37:50,027 work there we need to start 1213 00:37:51,511 --> 00:37:51,761 putting Nevadans first not 1214 00:37:52,277 --> 00:37:52,527 corporations and most definitely 1215 00:37:54,311 --> 00:37:54,561 not data centers I look forward 1216 00:37:56,044 --> 00:37:56,294 to the day when I can spend my 1217 00:37:57,744 --> 00:37:57,994 money locally where the money 1218 00:37:59,544 --> 00:37:59,794 stays here in Nevada supporting 1219 00:38:00,311 --> 00:38:00,561 local businesses their employees 1220 00:38:02,111 --> 00:38:02,361 and their families as it stands 1221 00:38:02,811 --> 00:38:03,061 a barely shop in 1222 00:38:05,711 --> 00:38:05,961 personsa more. I mostly purchase 1223 00:38:07,511 --> 00:38:07,761 online from small independent 1224 00:38:08,277 --> 00:38:08,527 sellers everywhere you go here 1225 00:38:10,044 --> 00:38:10,294 in Las Vegas and henderson it's 1226 00:38:11,744 --> 00:38:11,994 difficult to find an 1227 00:38:13,511 --> 00:38:13,761 independently owned business for 1228 00:38:14,244 --> 00:38:14,494 necessary household products or 1229 00:38:15,777 --> 00:38:16,027 a restaurant with good quality 1230 00:38:16,544 --> 00:38:16,794 ingredients and homemade 1231 00:38:18,344 --> 00:38:18,594 recipes. I refuse to eat at 1232 00:38:20,044 --> 00:38:20,294 corporate restaurants or shops 1233 00:38:21,777 --> 00:38:22,027 at large corporate stores who 1234 00:38:22,411 --> 00:38:22,661 don't pay their employees a 1235 00:38:24,077 --> 00:38:24,327 living wage or don't even have 1236 00:38:25,877 --> 00:38:26,127 safe or equitable work 1237 00:38:27,511 --> 00:38:27,761 environments more so I think 1238 00:38:28,311 --> 00:38:28,561 it's high time that we as a 1239 00:38:30,311 --> 00:38:30,561 community and a country curb our 1240 00:38:31,811 --> 00:38:32,061 support for corporations and 1241 00:38:32,377 --> 00:38:32,627 their shareholders we need to 1242 00:38:33,044 --> 00:38:33,294 take 1243 00:38:36,077 --> 00:38:36,327 back our control of local of our 1244 00:38:37,777 --> 00:38:38,027 local economy and as they say 1245 00:38:38,377 --> 00:38:38,627 keep it local thank you for your 1246 00:38:39,077 --> 00:38:39,327 time 1247 00:38:45,877 --> 00:38:46,127 BPS is at our last caller? 1248 00:38:49,677 --> 00:38:49,927 Yesir we have no additional 1249 00:38:50,244 --> 00:38:50,494 callers on the line. 1250 00:38:51,911 --> 00:38:52,161 thank you for that 1251 00:38:52,411 --> 00:38:52,661 all right 1252 00:38:55,711 --> 00:38:55,961 thank you everyone for calling 1253 00:38:57,944 --> 00:38:58,194 in for public comment we will 1254 00:39:00,477 --> 00:39:00,727 now move to agenda item number4 1255 00:39:05,511 --> 00:39:05,761 members this is approval of the 1256 00:39:07,711 --> 00:39:07,961 minutes from May13,2026 1257 00:39:09,711 --> 00:39:09,961 hopefully you guys have had a 1258 00:39:12,177 --> 00:39:12,427 chance to review them I will 1259 00:39:13,977 --> 00:39:14,227 entertain a motion to approve 1260 00:39:17,744 --> 00:39:17,994 the May13,2026 meeting minutes 1261 00:39:19,977 --> 00:39:20,227 so moved so have a first from 1262 00:39:23,744 --> 00:39:23,994 bu yearbacus second from Senator 1263 00:39:26,311 --> 00:39:26,561 Deatete all those in favor say 1264 00:39:26,977 --> 00:39:27,227 aye 1265 00:39:29,844 --> 00:39:30,094 any opposed say nay 1266 00:39:34,244 --> 00:39:34,494 seeing no opposition the motion 1267 00:39:36,344 --> 00:39:36,594 passes thank you the approval 1268 00:39:37,011 --> 00:39:37,261 of the minutes 1269 00:39:41,477 --> 00:39:41,727 has been approved. We will now 1270 00:39:43,711 --> 00:39:43,961 move to agenda item number5 1271 00:39:45,744 --> 00:39:45,994 which is the overview and 1272 00:39:48,011 --> 00:39:48,261 discussion of prediction markets 1273 00:39:50,111 --> 00:39:50,361 we will havereyor 1274 00:39:53,511 --> 00:39:53,761 vice president of government 1275 00:39:55,711 --> 00:39:55,961 affairs government relations for 1276 00:39:57,944 --> 00:39:58,194 the American Gaming association 1277 00:40:00,177 --> 00:40:00,427 to present first and then we 1278 00:40:01,944 --> 00:40:02,194 will have thenevada gaming 1279 00:40:02,511 --> 00:40:02,761 control board go after 1280 00:40:06,111 --> 00:40:06,361 Hi Mister York are you ready? 1281 00:40:10,244 --> 00:40:10,494 yes ma'am I am chairneal 1282 00:40:11,744 --> 00:40:11,994 vicechair backc is and members 1283 00:40:13,477 --> 00:40:13,727 of the committee my name is 1284 00:40:14,244 --> 00:40:14,494 Trace York and I thank you for 1285 00:40:17,477 --> 00:40:17,727 the opportunity to testify today 1286 00:40:18,211 --> 00:40:18,461 on behalf of the American Gaming 1287 00:40:19,977 --> 00:40:20,227 Association and I'm very pleased 1288 00:40:21,744 --> 00:40:21,994 to also testify with my 1289 00:40:23,977 --> 00:40:24,227 friend Chairman Dreitzer so I 1290 00:40:27,511 --> 00:40:27,761 have a very short but but fairly 1291 00:40:28,277 --> 00:40:28,527 all encompassing PowerPoint 1292 00:40:29,977 --> 00:40:30,227 presentation that I'm going to 1293 00:40:32,311 --> 00:40:32,561 share my screen with for 1294 00:40:33,744 --> 00:40:33,994 the committee so give me one 1295 00:40:34,311 --> 00:40:34,561 second 1296 00:40:37,511 --> 00:40:37,761 I hope everyone can see this. I 1297 00:40:38,244 --> 00:40:38,494 think there might be a a second 1298 00:40:40,244 --> 00:40:40,494 or two delays so forgive me on 1299 00:40:43,511 --> 00:40:43,761 that but I'll start off by 1300 00:40:44,244 --> 00:40:44,494 just kind of stating the obvious 1301 00:40:46,277 --> 00:40:46,527 that that Chairman Drreitzer 1302 00:40:48,011 --> 00:40:48,261 and I and those in the room know 1303 00:40:49,777 --> 00:40:50,027 which is sports betting on 1304 00:40:51,511 --> 00:40:51,761 prediction markets like alci and 1305 00:40:54,011 --> 00:40:54,261 Poly market makes a mockery of 1306 00:40:55,777 --> 00:40:56,027 congressional intent they 1307 00:40:57,477 --> 00:40:57,727 strip Americans of important 1308 00:40:58,544 --> 00:40:58,794 consumer protections and they're 1309 00:41:00,277 --> 00:41:00,527 costing states a fortune and 1310 00:41:02,044 --> 00:41:02,294 lost state tax revenue. 1311 00:41:03,944 --> 00:41:04,194 thankfully Nevada is fighting 1312 00:41:04,611 --> 00:41:04,861 back 1313 00:41:06,377 --> 00:41:06,627 and going after these bad actors 1314 00:41:07,044 --> 00:41:07,294 head on 1315 00:41:17,977 --> 00:41:18,227 So to begin I'd like to give a 1316 00:41:20,011 --> 00:41:20,261 brief overview of the AGA who 1317 00:41:22,011 --> 00:41:22,261 our members are and the impact 1318 00:41:24,311 --> 00:41:24,561 that the legal regulated gaming 1319 00:41:26,044 --> 00:41:26,294 industry has which no state 1320 00:41:27,511 --> 00:41:27,761 knows better than the state of 1321 00:41:29,744 --> 00:41:29,994 Nevada. The AGA represents 1322 00:41:30,511 --> 00:41:30,761 commercial and tribal casinos 1323 00:41:33,511 --> 00:41:33,761 gaming manufacturers state 1324 00:41:35,511 --> 00:41:35,761 regulated sports books and 1325 00:41:36,311 --> 00:41:36,561 technology and payment providers 1326 00:41:38,344 --> 00:41:38,594 many of which are located within 1327 00:41:39,044 --> 00:41:39,294 the state of Nevada. 1328 00:41:42,277 --> 00:41:42,527 the gaming industry has an 1329 00:41:44,244 --> 00:41:44,494 economic impact of nearly330 1330 00:41:46,244 --> 00:41:46,494 billion dollars nationwide 1331 00:41:48,277 --> 00:41:48,527 supports1.8 million jobs and 1332 00:41:51,511 --> 00:41:51,761 generates over52 billion dollars 1333 00:41:52,244 --> 00:41:52,494 in state tax and tribal revenue 1334 00:41:52,911 --> 00:41:53,161 share. 1335 00:41:55,511 --> 00:41:55,761 the legal gaming industry in the 1336 00:41:56,244 --> 00:41:56,494 United States is one of the most 1337 00:41:58,211 --> 00:41:58,461 highly regulated in the country 1338 00:42:01,711 --> 00:42:01,961 with over8,400 state and tribal 1339 00:42:03,977 --> 00:42:04,227 gaming regulators overseeing 1340 00:42:05,777 --> 00:42:06,027 operations this stands in stark 1341 00:42:06,444 --> 00:42:06,694 contrast to how prediction 1342 00:42:08,011 --> 00:42:08,261 markets are quote unquote 1343 00:42:09,977 --> 00:42:10,227 regulated by a small federal 1344 00:42:12,244 --> 00:42:12,494 agency with only600 employees 1345 00:42:13,977 --> 00:42:14,227 questionable enforcement 1346 00:42:15,777 --> 00:42:16,027 capability and only one 1347 00:42:16,511 --> 00:42:16,761 commissioner when they are 1348 00:42:18,011 --> 00:42:18,261 supposed to be5 which I'll get 1349 00:42:18,677 --> 00:42:18,927 to a little bit more shortly. 1350 00:42:23,711 --> 00:42:23,961 for an overview of where gaming 1351 00:42:25,977 --> 00:42:26,227 is legally right now in 2026 1352 00:42:27,744 --> 00:42:27,994 this map shows you that almost 1353 00:42:29,744 --> 00:42:29,994 every state in the country has 1354 00:42:31,511 --> 00:42:31,761 some form of legal gaming 1355 00:42:32,244 --> 00:42:32,494 whether it's casino gaming 1356 00:42:34,244 --> 00:42:34,494 tribal gaming sports betting 1357 00:42:37,744 --> 00:42:37,994 online casino etc. only a few 1358 00:42:39,511 --> 00:42:39,761 decades ago legal gaming was 1359 00:42:40,244 --> 00:42:40,494 restricted to just Nevada and 1360 00:42:42,011 --> 00:42:42,261 then later to New Jersey but 1361 00:42:43,877 --> 00:42:44,127 that's clearly no longer the 1362 00:42:44,544 --> 00:42:44,794 case 1363 00:42:46,277 --> 00:42:46,527 Furthermore, the supreme court 1364 00:42:49,777 --> 00:42:50,027 overturned PaSA in 2018 and gave 1365 00:42:50,477 --> 00:42:50,727 the states the right to 1366 00:42:52,011 --> 00:42:52,261 determine whether or not to 1367 00:42:53,777 --> 00:42:54,027 legalize sports betting. This 1368 00:42:55,511 --> 00:42:55,761 map shows you that over 40 1369 00:42:57,777 --> 00:42:58,027 jurisdictions have chosen to do 1370 00:42:59,777 --> 00:43:00,027 so over the last eight years. 1371 00:43:01,511 --> 00:43:01,761 This is one of the fastest rates 1372 00:43:02,277 --> 00:43:02,527 of public policy adoption 1373 00:43:04,011 --> 00:43:04,261 throughout the country in any 1374 00:43:04,677 --> 00:43:04,927 format in recent memory. 1375 00:43:08,277 --> 00:43:08,527 Moreover,32 states have 1376 00:43:10,277 --> 00:43:10,527 legalized online sports betting 1377 00:43:12,011 --> 00:43:12,261 which gets to the heart of the 1378 00:43:13,511 --> 00:43:13,761 issue with socalled prediction 1379 00:43:14,511 --> 00:43:14,761 markets also offering sports 1380 00:43:16,244 --> 00:43:16,494 gambling but doing so outside of 1381 00:43:18,077 --> 00:43:18,327 the state and tribal frameworks 1382 00:43:18,744 --> 00:43:18,994 that have been created 1383 00:43:21,511 --> 00:43:21,761 if a state wants to legalize 1384 00:43:23,511 --> 00:43:23,761 online sports betting each 1385 00:43:24,144 --> 00:43:24,394 individual state creates the 1386 00:43:25,744 --> 00:43:25,994 laws and regulations that govern 1387 00:43:27,744 --> 00:43:27,994 those operations if a state 1388 00:43:29,477 --> 00:43:29,727 decides it's not the right time 1389 00:43:31,511 --> 00:43:31,761 or they may never do so that is 1390 00:43:32,544 --> 00:43:32,794 also the state's prerogative. P 1391 00:43:33,777 --> 00:43:34,027 prediction markets are 1392 00:43:35,511 --> 00:43:35,761 attempting to throw that state 1393 00:43:37,777 --> 00:43:38,027 regulated system and the state's 1394 00:43:39,777 --> 00:43:40,027 ability to decide overall out 1395 00:43:40,477 --> 00:43:40,727 the window and in front of an 1396 00:43:41,144 --> 00:43:41,394 oncoming semi. 1397 00:43:45,711 --> 00:43:45,961 so what are sports event 1398 00:43:46,444 --> 00:43:46,694 contracts which has become the 1399 00:43:47,777 --> 00:43:48,027 focal point of so much 1400 00:43:49,777 --> 00:43:50,027 litigation and debate over the 1401 00:43:51,777 --> 00:43:52,027 last year and a half or so let's 1402 00:43:53,511 --> 00:43:53,761 be clear on one thing 1403 00:43:55,477 --> 00:43:55,727 socalled sports event contracts 1404 00:43:56,277 --> 00:43:56,527 are nothing but sports betting. 1405 00:43:58,244 --> 00:43:58,494 A customer puts money on a 1406 00:44:00,011 --> 00:44:00,261 sports outcome and gets paid if 1407 00:44:01,777 --> 00:44:02,027 they are correct. that's a 1408 00:44:03,777 --> 00:44:04,027 sports bet. there is no economic 1409 00:44:05,511 --> 00:44:05,761 consequence from combining the 1410 00:44:07,511 --> 00:44:07,761 outcome of a March madness game 1411 00:44:08,244 --> 00:44:08,494 and a New York Yankees game. 1412 00:44:09,844 --> 00:44:10,094 that is a sports betting parley 1413 00:44:12,244 --> 00:44:12,494 when they were originally 1414 00:44:13,977 --> 00:44:14,227 created event contracts were 1415 00:44:15,777 --> 00:44:16,027 structured as a derivatives 1416 00:44:17,511 --> 00:44:17,761 contract that pays a person 1417 00:44:18,211 --> 00:44:18,461 based on a specified event or 1418 00:44:19,777 --> 00:44:20,027 occurrence such as a 1419 00:44:21,744 --> 00:44:21,994 macroeconomic indicator 1420 00:44:23,511 --> 00:44:23,761 generally used for hedging 1421 00:44:25,544 --> 00:44:25,794 purposes. They are ostensibly 1422 00:44:27,511 --> 00:44:27,761 regulated as I mentioned earlier 1423 00:44:28,211 --> 00:44:28,461 by the federaleral Commodities 1424 00:44:30,211 --> 00:44:30,461 Futures Trading Commission or or 1425 00:44:33,977 --> 00:44:34,227 the CFTC which bizarrely allows 1426 00:44:35,511 --> 00:44:35,761 designated contract markets such 1427 00:44:37,511 --> 00:44:37,761 as prediction markets to self 1428 00:44:39,844 --> 00:44:40,094 certify that the contracts that 1429 00:44:40,511 --> 00:44:40,761 they are offering to the public 1430 00:44:43,511 --> 00:44:43,761 don't violate the commodities 1431 00:44:45,511 --> 00:44:45,761 exchange Act or CFTc 1432 00:44:47,744 --> 00:44:47,994 regulations. I'll say that again 1433 00:44:50,244 --> 00:44:50,494 thecFTc allows prediction market 1434 00:44:52,477 --> 00:44:52,727 platforms to self certify their 1435 00:44:55,511 --> 00:44:55,761 own contracts in markets that 1436 00:44:56,211 --> 00:44:56,461 they're offering to the public 1437 00:44:59,511 --> 00:44:59,761 that they don't violate the CEA 1438 00:45:01,977 --> 00:45:02,227 or CFTC regulations. CFTc 1439 00:45:04,211 --> 00:45:04,461 regulations which by the way 1440 00:45:05,777 --> 00:45:06,027 prohibit event contracts on 1441 00:45:07,511 --> 00:45:07,761 things such as war, 1442 00:45:09,844 --> 00:45:10,094 assassination, gaming or any 1443 00:45:10,511 --> 00:45:10,761 activity that is 1444 00:45:12,144 --> 00:45:12,394 unlawful under state or federal 1445 00:45:12,811 --> 00:45:13,061 law 1446 00:45:15,977 --> 00:45:16,227 the commodities exchange Act was 1447 00:45:17,977 --> 00:45:18,227 updated in 2010 during the 1448 00:45:19,744 --> 00:45:19,994 debate over the Dodd-rank 1449 00:45:22,244 --> 00:45:22,494 financial reform actct which was 1450 00:45:23,777 --> 00:45:24,027 which was passed to combat the 1451 00:45:27,511 --> 00:45:27,761 2008 economic crisis. Absurdly 1452 00:45:28,211 --> 00:45:28,461 according to prediction markets, 1453 00:45:31,477 --> 00:45:31,727 the updated CEA was so clear 1454 00:45:32,277 --> 00:45:32,527 that Congress intended to allow 1455 00:45:34,544 --> 00:45:34,794 sports gambling in all5y states 1456 00:45:37,744 --> 00:45:37,994 that it took1f years for someone 1457 00:45:39,511 --> 00:45:39,761 to realize what Congress had 1458 00:45:41,511 --> 00:45:41,761 done. This obviously defies 1459 00:45:42,344 --> 00:45:42,594 belief. The six year battle to 1460 00:45:43,044 --> 00:45:43,294 overturn Paspa 1461 00:45:45,111 --> 00:45:45,361 and allow the states to 1462 00:45:46,211 --> 00:45:46,461 determine whether or not to 1463 00:45:48,244 --> 00:45:48,494 legalize sports betting occurred 1464 00:45:51,477 --> 00:45:51,727 after the CEA was updated but 1465 00:45:52,211 --> 00:45:52,461 prediction markets would have 1466 00:45:53,777 --> 00:45:54,027 everyone believe in their theory 1467 00:45:55,777 --> 00:45:56,027 that Congress authorized 1468 00:45:57,511 --> 00:45:57,761 nationwide sports gambling as 1469 00:45:59,744 --> 00:45:59,994 they as they are providing now a 1470 00:46:01,677 --> 00:46:01,927 full8 years before Paspa was 1471 00:46:02,344 --> 00:46:02,594 overturned. 1472 00:46:05,711 --> 00:46:05,961 this next this next slide should 1473 00:46:07,944 --> 00:46:08,194 raise some eyebrows with 1474 00:46:09,511 --> 00:46:09,761 everyone. It shows a litany of 1475 00:46:10,277 --> 00:46:10,527 different types of advertising 1476 00:46:12,244 --> 00:46:12,494 from prediction markets to 1477 00:46:14,211 --> 00:46:14,461 Americans where they are clearly 1478 00:46:16,211 --> 00:46:16,461 calling themselves legal sports 1479 00:46:17,977 --> 00:46:18,227 betting including an item in the 1480 00:46:19,744 --> 00:46:19,994 upper right corner showing a 1481 00:46:22,011 --> 00:46:22,261 young paid influencer saying 1482 00:46:23,777 --> 00:46:24,027 that she was able to pay her 1483 00:46:25,744 --> 00:46:25,994 rent after gambling through 1484 00:46:27,977 --> 00:46:28,227 alci. This is the this is the 1485 00:46:29,744 --> 00:46:29,994 message that prediction markets 1486 00:46:31,477 --> 00:46:31,727 are sending to Americans 1487 00:46:32,411 --> 00:46:32,661 including teenagers to the 1488 00:46:32,977 --> 00:46:33,227 courts they 1489 00:46:35,944 --> 00:46:36,194 say we aren't sports gambling to 1490 00:46:37,944 --> 00:46:38,194 the public they willingly admit 1491 00:46:38,611 --> 00:46:38,861 that they are 1492 00:46:42,177 --> 00:46:42,427 so why are sports in particular 1493 00:46:44,011 --> 00:46:44,261 so important to these operators 1494 00:46:45,777 --> 00:46:46,027 so this particular graph shows 1495 00:46:48,277 --> 00:46:48,527 trading volume from 2025 1496 00:46:50,244 --> 00:46:50,494 reported by Calci which reports 1497 00:46:52,277 --> 00:46:52,527 their own data and a portion of 1498 00:46:54,511 --> 00:46:54,761 volume that is in yellow is the 1499 00:46:56,011 --> 00:46:56,261 socalled trading that is 1500 00:46:58,244 --> 00:46:58,494 happening on sports as you can 1501 00:46:59,744 --> 00:46:59,994 see if you go back looking at 1502 00:47:02,277 --> 00:47:02,527 2024 there was no betting on 1503 00:47:04,044 --> 00:47:04,294 sports whatsoever. there was no 1504 00:47:05,977 --> 00:47:06,227 yellow grap yellow in that graph 1505 00:47:08,411 --> 00:47:08,661 in a court filing in 2024 1506 00:47:08,977 --> 00:47:09,227 Kalshy's lawyers admitted 1507 00:47:12,477 --> 00:47:12,727 to a federal district judge that 1508 00:47:14,311 --> 00:47:14,561 the CEA did not intend to allow 1509 00:47:16,277 --> 00:47:16,527 to allow betting on sporting 1510 00:47:17,977 --> 00:47:18,227 events such as the Superowl. 1511 00:47:20,277 --> 00:47:20,527 Once 2025 rolled around they 1512 00:47:22,011 --> 00:47:22,261 reversed their decision and 1513 00:47:24,011 --> 00:47:24,261 unilaterally decided sports 1514 00:47:26,044 --> 00:47:26,294 gambling for everyone on any 1515 00:47:28,044 --> 00:47:28,294 given day gambling on sports and 1516 00:47:30,011 --> 00:47:30,261 sports parleys accounts from 1517 00:47:33,511 --> 00:47:33,761 anywhere between80 to90% of the 1518 00:47:35,477 --> 00:47:35,727 overall volume that is driven on 1519 00:47:36,177 --> 00:47:36,427 prediction markets. These 1520 00:47:38,044 --> 00:47:38,294 platforms are sports books with 1521 00:47:38,777 --> 00:47:39,027 a few other markets on the side 1522 00:47:42,544 --> 00:47:42,794 there is no doubt about that and 1523 00:47:44,011 --> 00:47:44,261 unlike the vast majority of 1524 00:47:45,811 --> 00:47:46,061 legal sports books in the United 1525 00:47:47,511 --> 00:47:47,761 States where the gambling age is 1526 00:47:49,477 --> 00:47:49,727 21 years old on prediction 1527 00:47:51,777 --> 00:47:52,027 markets it's only18. Every 1528 00:47:53,511 --> 00:47:53,761 parent with a senior in high 1529 00:47:54,277 --> 00:47:54,527 school or kids attending college 1530 00:47:55,011 --> 00:47:55,261 should be immensely concerned 1531 00:47:55,711 --> 00:47:55,961 about this 1532 00:47:58,277 --> 00:47:58,527 so what are the main public 1533 00:48:00,244 --> 00:48:00,494 policy concerns well as you can 1534 00:48:01,977 --> 00:48:02,227 see here there's certainly a 1535 00:48:03,777 --> 00:48:04,027 litany of them. first sports 1536 00:48:04,344 --> 00:48:04,594 gambling through prediction 1537 00:48:06,277 --> 00:48:06,527 markets completely undermines 1538 00:48:07,977 --> 00:48:08,227 state and tribal authority over 1539 00:48:09,777 --> 00:48:10,027 gambling regulation which has 1540 00:48:11,511 --> 00:48:11,761 been the purview of the states 1541 00:48:13,477 --> 00:48:13,727 and tribes for decadesstead of 1542 00:48:14,244 --> 00:48:14,494 allowing states to decide what 1543 00:48:16,244 --> 00:48:16,494 if any gambling should be legal. 1544 00:48:17,977 --> 00:48:18,227 these operators are ignoring all 1545 00:48:20,011 --> 00:48:20,261 of it. What the elected 1546 00:48:20,511 --> 00:48:20,761 representatives who serve in 1547 00:48:22,044 --> 00:48:22,294 state legislatures across the 1548 00:48:24,311 --> 00:48:24,561 country want to do is completely 1549 00:48:26,244 --> 00:48:26,494 irrelevant to them. Their 1550 00:48:26,811 --> 00:48:27,061 message to you all and 1551 00:48:29,511 --> 00:48:29,761 other state policymakers is 1552 00:48:31,511 --> 00:48:31,761 crystal clear your gambling 1553 00:48:33,477 --> 00:48:33,727 laws, your consumer protection 1554 00:48:35,777 --> 00:48:36,027 laws none of them matter to us 1555 00:48:38,277 --> 00:48:38,527 we're so sorry. Sports gambling 1556 00:48:39,511 --> 00:48:39,761 through prediction markets is 1557 00:48:40,277 --> 00:48:40,527 also clearly diverting tax 1558 00:48:42,244 --> 00:48:42,494 revenue that states use to fund 1559 00:48:44,011 --> 00:48:44,261 important programs which we at 1560 00:48:47,477 --> 00:48:47,727 theagGA estimate to be over1.3 1561 00:48:49,477 --> 00:48:49,727 billion dollars in lost revenue 1562 00:48:50,511 --> 00:48:50,761 to the state so far and that is 1563 00:48:52,277 --> 00:48:52,527 very likely an understatement. 1564 00:48:54,011 --> 00:48:54,261 their consumer protections if 1565 00:48:56,111 --> 00:48:56,361 there are any fall far short of 1566 00:48:56,777 --> 00:48:57,027 the protections that states have 1567 00:48:58,311 --> 00:48:58,561 developed over the last eight 1568 00:49:00,011 --> 00:49:00,261 years and as I mentioned 1569 00:49:01,977 --> 00:49:02,227 previously they allow anyone 1570 00:49:03,977 --> 00:49:04,227 eight years of age or older to 1571 00:49:05,744 --> 00:49:05,994 gamble on their sites and are 1572 00:49:07,477 --> 00:49:07,727 marketing to Americans that 1573 00:49:08,477 --> 00:49:08,727 these contracts are financial 1574 00:49:10,277 --> 00:49:10,527 investments not a form of 1575 00:49:11,777 --> 00:49:12,027 entertainment which is an 1576 00:49:13,744 --> 00:49:13,994 enormous risk to people 1577 00:49:15,511 --> 00:49:15,761 especially young men changing 1578 00:49:16,277 --> 00:49:16,527 that messaging from being a form 1579 00:49:19,511 --> 00:49:19,761 of entertainment to a financial 1580 00:49:20,111 --> 00:49:20,361 investment that should become 1581 00:49:21,511 --> 00:49:21,761 just as much a part of your 1582 00:49:24,277 --> 00:49:24,527 financial portfolio as your401k 1583 00:49:26,111 --> 00:49:26,361 is absurd. The legal sports 1584 00:49:26,711 --> 00:49:26,961 betting industry market 1585 00:49:28,277 --> 00:49:28,527 sports betting as a form of 1586 00:49:30,011 --> 00:49:30,261 entertainment that should be 1587 00:49:32,011 --> 00:49:32,261 done so responsibly and provides 1588 00:49:34,011 --> 00:49:34,261 the tools to do so. Prediction 1589 00:49:35,744 --> 00:49:35,994 markets advertise to teenagers 1590 00:49:37,544 --> 00:49:37,794 and young people that instead of 1591 00:49:39,511 --> 00:49:39,761 saving to buy a car or books for 1592 00:49:41,511 --> 00:49:41,761 their college class that this is 1593 00:49:42,244 --> 00:49:42,494 a financial investment that they 1594 00:49:44,244 --> 00:49:44,494 instead should invest that money 1595 00:49:46,277 --> 00:49:46,527 in a thirteenle parlay which as 1596 00:49:48,011 --> 00:49:48,261 the previous advertising 1597 00:49:50,244 --> 00:49:50,494 demonstrated could or it with a 1598 00:49:53,777 --> 00:49:54,027 plus800% odds could pay your 1599 00:49:55,777 --> 00:49:56,027 rent that's the type of people 1600 00:49:56,477 --> 00:49:56,727 that we're dealing with and of 1601 00:49:57,144 --> 00:49:57,394 course 1602 00:49:59,511 --> 00:49:59,761 this activity does conflict with 1603 00:50:00,244 --> 00:50:00,494 other federal laws such as 1604 00:50:01,844 --> 00:50:02,094 theyre Act and the gaming 1605 00:50:02,444 --> 00:50:02,694 Regulatory Act. 1606 00:50:05,744 --> 00:50:05,994 so what does the legal landscape 1607 00:50:07,511 --> 00:50:07,761 look like across the country so 1608 00:50:09,944 --> 00:50:10,194 far so as you can see here 21 1609 00:50:11,977 --> 00:50:12,227 states are in active federal and 1610 00:50:13,511 --> 00:50:13,761 state litigation against 1611 00:50:15,477 --> 00:50:15,727 prediction markets to prevent 1612 00:50:16,077 --> 00:50:16,327 them from offering sports 1613 00:50:17,711 --> 00:50:17,961 gambling without being regulated 1614 00:50:20,011 --> 00:50:20,261 by the state so far 9 federal 1615 00:50:21,744 --> 00:50:21,994 courts of appeals have pending 1616 00:50:23,744 --> 00:50:23,994 cases which means that this 1617 00:50:25,544 --> 00:50:25,794 entire issue is very likely to 1618 00:50:26,244 --> 00:50:26,494 make its way up to the United 1619 00:50:27,977 --> 00:50:28,227 States Supreme Court next year 1620 00:50:29,544 --> 00:50:29,794 and I will also note that as you 1621 00:50:31,777 --> 00:50:32,027 can tell on this map this is a 1622 00:50:32,444 --> 00:50:32,694 very bipartisan issue this is 1623 00:50:33,111 --> 00:50:33,361 these are 1624 00:50:35,611 --> 00:50:35,861 both democratic and Republican 1625 00:50:36,377 --> 00:50:36,627 attorneys general that are 1626 00:50:37,844 --> 00:50:38,094 fighting this federal overreach 1627 00:50:38,511 --> 00:50:38,761 in court. 1628 00:50:42,311 --> 00:50:42,561 Additionally,10 states including 1629 00:50:43,977 --> 00:50:44,227 the state of Nevada have sued 1630 00:50:45,511 --> 00:50:45,761 prediction markets in state 1631 00:50:46,244 --> 00:50:46,494 court and Nevada has been one of 1632 00:50:48,011 --> 00:50:48,261 the successful states to kick 1633 00:50:49,744 --> 00:50:49,994 prediction markets out of the 1634 00:50:51,544 --> 00:50:51,794 state to prevent them from offer 1635 00:50:53,511 --> 00:50:53,761 from offering illegal sports 1636 00:50:54,244 --> 00:50:54,494 gambling. This is the most 1637 00:50:56,277 --> 00:50:56,527 effective way until the supreme 1638 00:50:58,044 --> 00:50:58,294 court decides on the legality of 1639 00:50:59,777 --> 00:51:00,027 all of this how to protect your 1640 00:51:01,744 --> 00:51:01,994 citizens is to sue these 1641 00:51:03,511 --> 00:51:03,761 prediction markets in state 1642 00:51:05,511 --> 00:51:05,761 court this is an effort by 1643 00:51:06,144 --> 00:51:06,394 Chairman Dreitzer and General 1644 00:51:07,511 --> 00:51:07,761 Ford that should be applauded 1645 00:51:08,711 --> 00:51:08,961 and followed by other states to 1646 00:51:09,377 --> 00:51:09,627 protect their citizens 1647 00:51:11,977 --> 00:51:12,227 Furthermore, when the CFTC's 1648 00:51:13,744 --> 00:51:13,994 loan commissioner testified 1649 00:51:15,477 --> 00:51:15,727 before Congress last year during 1650 00:51:17,511 --> 00:51:17,761 his confirmation hearing he 1651 00:51:18,244 --> 00:51:18,494 pledged when asked by senators 1652 00:51:19,977 --> 00:51:20,227 that he would leave the legality 1653 00:51:22,244 --> 00:51:22,494 of sports event contracts up to 1654 00:51:24,011 --> 00:51:24,261 the courts. However, after he 1655 00:51:25,977 --> 00:51:26,227 was confirmed, Chairmanelig 1656 00:51:28,211 --> 00:51:28,461 reversed himself and the CFTc 1657 00:51:31,477 --> 00:51:31,727 has now actively sued states in 1658 00:51:33,744 --> 00:51:33,994 federal court in10 different 1659 00:51:34,544 --> 00:51:34,794 in10 different states on the 1660 00:51:35,777 --> 00:51:36,027 other side as I mentioned 1661 00:51:38,344 --> 00:51:38,594 earlier we have44 bipartisan 1662 00:51:38,977 --> 00:51:39,227 state attorneys general that 1663 00:51:39,644 --> 00:51:39,894 have gone 1664 00:51:41,811 --> 00:51:42,061 on the record opposing sports 1665 00:51:42,411 --> 00:51:42,661 gambling through prediction 1666 00:51:45,511 --> 00:51:45,761 markets which in 2026 is an 1667 00:51:47,477 --> 00:51:47,727 unbelievable feat and we've also 1668 00:51:49,477 --> 00:51:49,727 seen legislation to attempt to 1669 00:51:51,511 --> 00:51:51,761 deal with this issue be 1670 00:51:52,544 --> 00:51:52,794 introduced in se7 different 1671 00:51:53,944 --> 00:51:54,194 states so far throughout2026. 1672 00:51:58,277 --> 00:51:58,527 to wrap things up there's a 1673 00:51:59,744 --> 00:51:59,994 number of things that state 1674 00:52:01,777 --> 00:52:02,027 legislators can do to help wage 1675 00:52:02,411 --> 00:52:02,661 this battle from pressing your 1676 00:52:03,977 --> 00:52:04,227 members of Congress to deal with 1677 00:52:05,977 --> 00:52:06,227 this at the federal level and 1678 00:52:06,611 --> 00:52:06,861 protect states' rights to 1679 00:52:08,277 --> 00:52:08,527 adopting state resolutions 1680 00:52:10,244 --> 00:52:10,494 working and urging your governor 1681 00:52:12,011 --> 00:52:12,261 to increase coordination with 1682 00:52:13,744 --> 00:52:13,994 federal and state partners 1683 00:52:15,511 --> 00:52:15,761 supporting your attorney general 1684 00:52:16,244 --> 00:52:16,494 to take enforcement action and 1685 00:52:18,244 --> 00:52:18,494 advancing legislation clarifying 1686 00:52:19,511 --> 00:52:19,761 that sports gambling through 1687 00:52:21,511 --> 00:52:21,761 prediction markets is illegal. 1688 00:52:23,511 --> 00:52:23,761 Nevada has already done many of 1689 00:52:24,311 --> 00:52:24,561 these things and again I commend 1690 00:52:25,777 --> 00:52:26,027 all the public officials for 1691 00:52:26,411 --> 00:52:26,661 taking the fight straight to 1692 00:52:26,944 --> 00:52:27,194 these ro 1693 00:52:29,477 --> 00:52:29,727 gue actors but in discussions 1694 00:52:31,511 --> 00:52:31,761 with your fellow legislators in 1695 00:52:33,511 --> 00:52:33,761 other states educating them on 1696 00:52:35,477 --> 00:52:35,727 this issue is imperative and the 1697 00:52:36,711 --> 00:52:36,961 AGA stands ready to be a 1698 00:52:37,244 --> 00:52:37,494 resource for anything that you 1699 00:52:37,911 --> 00:52:38,161 may need. 1700 00:52:40,211 --> 00:52:40,461 I've taken up a lot of time 1701 00:52:41,511 --> 00:52:41,761 already and I want to to get 1702 00:52:42,244 --> 00:52:42,494 things over to Chairman Dreitzer 1703 00:52:43,977 --> 00:52:44,227 but I'll conclude with this 1704 00:52:45,977 --> 00:52:46,227 Congressional intent was clear 1705 00:52:47,744 --> 00:52:47,994 sports betting should not be 1706 00:52:50,211 --> 00:52:50,461 traded on financial markets. I 1707 00:52:52,411 --> 00:52:52,661 know it you know it and Calhy's 1708 00:52:54,011 --> 00:52:54,261 lawyers made clear in federal 1709 00:52:54,644 --> 00:52:54,894 court that they know it too 1710 00:52:58,244 --> 00:52:58,494 this is my contact information 1711 00:52:59,777 --> 00:53:00,027 and I thank you for your time 1712 00:53:01,744 --> 00:53:01,994 and your efforts this is a 1713 00:53:03,511 --> 00:53:03,761 critical issue to the survival 1714 00:53:04,244 --> 00:53:04,494 of the legal gaming industry as 1715 00:53:06,277 --> 00:53:06,527 we know it and we cannot let 1716 00:53:08,244 --> 00:53:08,494 relax until it's resolved. So 1717 00:53:09,511 --> 00:53:09,761 thank you again for your 1718 00:53:10,277 --> 00:53:10,527 leadership and I'm happy to turn 1719 00:53:12,277 --> 00:53:12,527 it over to Chairman Dreitzer 1720 00:53:13,877 --> 00:53:14,127 now and answer any questions 1721 00:53:14,544 --> 00:53:14,794 thereafter. 1722 00:53:17,744 --> 00:53:17,994 thank you so much for that 1723 00:53:18,311 --> 00:53:18,561 before we get to Chairman 1724 00:53:21,744 --> 00:53:21,994 Dreitzer assemblywoman anderson 1725 00:53:23,744 --> 00:53:23,994 has a question for you and then 1726 00:53:25,744 --> 00:53:25,994 we have another question thank 1727 00:53:27,711 --> 00:53:27,961 you chair and thank you so much 1728 00:53:29,711 --> 00:53:29,961 Mr York for your 1729 00:53:31,711 --> 00:53:31,961 presentation. I'm loving your 1730 00:53:34,011 --> 00:53:34,261 passion on this subject is 1731 00:53:36,244 --> 00:53:36,494 besides educating legislators is 1732 00:53:37,977 --> 00:53:38,227 there any sort of education 1733 00:53:38,577 --> 00:53:38,827 going on from your organization 1734 00:53:39,211 --> 00:53:39,461 to the public. 1735 00:53:42,644 --> 00:53:42,894 especially when individuals 1736 00:53:43,244 --> 00:53:43,494 under the age of 21. 1737 00:53:47,511 --> 00:53:47,761 we we certainly are there we 1738 00:53:48,144 --> 00:53:48,394 there are a number of public 1739 00:53:50,011 --> 00:53:50,261 relations campaigns going on and 1740 00:53:51,744 --> 00:53:51,994 we also have been working very 1741 00:53:53,477 --> 00:53:53,727 closely with gaming regulators 1742 00:53:54,511 --> 00:53:54,761 to try to make sure that the 1743 00:53:55,777 --> 00:53:56,027 difference between these 1744 00:53:57,511 --> 00:53:57,761 prediction markets and legal 1745 00:53:59,511 --> 00:53:59,761 sports betting options is 1746 00:54:00,277 --> 00:54:00,527 delineated to the to the 1747 00:54:02,277 --> 00:54:02,527 greatest extent that we can 1748 00:54:04,244 --> 00:54:04,494 unfortunately prediction markets 1749 00:54:05,977 --> 00:54:06,227 have been spending hundreds of 1750 00:54:06,611 --> 00:54:06,861 millions of dollars in 1751 00:54:08,011 --> 00:54:08,261 advertising both through 1752 00:54:10,011 --> 00:54:10,261 through advertising on the 1753 00:54:12,011 --> 00:54:12,261 internet and social media 1754 00:54:13,844 --> 00:54:14,094 directly to young people and 1755 00:54:14,511 --> 00:54:14,761 many of the 1756 00:54:16,311 --> 00:54:16,561 advertising that would never be 1757 00:54:18,244 --> 00:54:18,494 authorized by any state for 1758 00:54:20,244 --> 00:54:20,494 example there has been reporting 1759 00:54:22,244 --> 00:54:22,494 of prediction market platforms 1760 00:54:24,511 --> 00:54:24,761 going to fraternities on college 1761 00:54:27,511 --> 00:54:27,761 campuses and paying fraternity 1762 00:54:29,511 --> 00:54:29,761 brothers to to to 1763 00:54:30,277 --> 00:54:30,527 participate in recruiting their 1764 00:54:33,477 --> 00:54:33,727 fellow their fellow students to 1765 00:54:35,744 --> 00:54:35,994 to sign up and and and gamble 1766 00:54:36,511 --> 00:54:36,761 on these prediction market sites 1767 00:54:38,044 --> 00:54:38,294 and the more that the mores of 1768 00:54:39,777 --> 00:54:40,027 their fellow students they that 1769 00:54:41,511 --> 00:54:41,761 they get signed up the more 1770 00:54:42,311 --> 00:54:42,561 money that they get paid a lot 1771 00:54:43,844 --> 00:54:44,094 of the influencers that they 1772 00:54:44,444 --> 00:54:44,694 have been 1773 00:54:47,477 --> 00:54:47,727 that they have been paying to to 1774 00:54:49,511 --> 00:54:49,761 advertise online have have been 1775 00:54:51,744 --> 00:54:51,994 found to be under the age of 18 1776 00:54:54,011 --> 00:54:54,261 and so this obviously again 1777 00:54:56,011 --> 00:54:56,261 would never be allowed in states 1778 00:54:57,744 --> 00:54:57,994 it's it's completely 1779 00:54:59,744 --> 00:54:59,994 preposterous that they're even 1780 00:55:01,511 --> 00:55:01,761 allowed to do this and I 1781 00:55:02,244 --> 00:55:02,494 think it clearly shows you the 1782 00:55:03,977 --> 00:55:04,227 type of quote unquote regulation 1783 00:55:06,244 --> 00:55:06,494 that is going on right now which 1784 00:55:07,511 --> 00:55:07,761 is very little and so it's a 1785 00:55:08,277 --> 00:55:08,527 major concern of ours we are 1786 00:55:10,277 --> 00:55:10,527 doing our best to try to push 1787 00:55:12,011 --> 00:55:12,261 back and make sure that not just 1788 00:55:13,844 --> 00:55:14,094 not just not just the students 1789 00:55:14,511 --> 00:55:14,761 but also parents 1790 00:55:16,244 --> 00:55:16,494 and teachers and folks that have 1791 00:55:19,577 --> 00:55:19,827 a real influence over over you 1792 00:55:20,377 --> 00:55:20,627 know seniors in high school and 1793 00:55:22,011 --> 00:55:22,261 young college kids that they 1794 00:55:24,011 --> 00:55:24,261 also know the threat that 1795 00:55:25,544 --> 00:55:25,794 these that these platforms play 1796 00:55:26,244 --> 00:55:26,494 and so we're trying to kind of 1797 00:55:28,244 --> 00:55:28,494 do in all of the above approach 1798 00:55:29,744 --> 00:55:29,994 to make sure that everyone has 1799 00:55:32,011 --> 00:55:32,261 the necessary has the 1800 00:55:33,977 --> 00:55:34,227 necessary information and make 1801 00:55:35,477 --> 00:55:35,727 sure that it gets down to those 1802 00:55:36,244 --> 00:55:36,494 young kids because on the other 1803 00:55:38,011 --> 00:55:38,261 side they're again is hundreds 1804 00:55:39,811 --> 00:55:40,061 of millions of dollars being 1805 00:55:41,511 --> 00:55:41,761 spent in all of the channels 1806 00:55:43,744 --> 00:55:43,994 that these young people use 1807 00:55:44,277 --> 00:55:44,527 to try to get them to do the 1808 00:55:44,844 --> 00:55:45,094 opposite 1809 00:55:47,811 --> 00:55:48,061 Thank you. Follow up chair 1810 00:55:51,511 --> 00:55:51,761 thank you so much thank you for 1811 00:55:52,177 --> 00:55:52,427 that answer. great hearing it. 1812 00:55:54,177 --> 00:55:54,427 not happy to hear that there's 1813 00:55:56,411 --> 00:55:56,661 individuals literally getting 1814 00:55:57,944 --> 00:55:58,194 other people to join these 1815 00:55:58,511 --> 00:55:58,761 markets. 1816 00:56:02,011 --> 00:56:02,261 so the nevada gaming 1817 00:56:03,744 --> 00:56:03,994 commission this might actually 1818 00:56:04,444 --> 00:56:04,694 be more be more appropriate for 1819 00:56:06,211 --> 00:56:06,461 the next individual, but the 1820 00:56:09,711 --> 00:56:09,961 nevada casinos they have given 1821 00:56:11,977 --> 00:56:12,227 money to help our gays anonymous 1822 00:56:13,711 --> 00:56:13,961 or gamblers anonymous and other 1823 00:56:17,511 --> 00:56:17,761 mental health areas to allow 1824 00:56:19,511 --> 00:56:19,761 for more education around the 1825 00:56:21,544 --> 00:56:21,794 dangers of gambling and 1826 00:56:22,011 --> 00:56:22,261 especially when you become 1827 00:56:23,777 --> 00:56:24,027 addicted to it do you know of 1828 00:56:25,511 --> 00:56:25,761 any of the current corporations 1829 00:56:27,511 --> 00:56:27,761 that are utilizing this this 1830 00:56:28,177 --> 00:56:28,427 form of online gaming are any of 1831 00:56:28,844 --> 00:56:29,094 those 1832 00:56:32,244 --> 00:56:32,494 giving money to any of the 1833 00:56:34,244 --> 00:56:34,494 Gamblers anonymous and or ways 1834 00:56:35,844 --> 00:56:36,094 to help people that do become 1835 00:56:36,477 --> 00:56:36,727 addicted to gaming. 1836 00:56:38,011 --> 00:56:38,261 to gambling 1837 00:56:40,244 --> 00:56:40,494 so I can't I can't tell you that 1838 00:56:42,277 --> 00:56:42,527 there's a there's a there's a 1839 00:56:45,511 --> 00:56:45,761 national group called NcPg which 1840 00:56:46,244 --> 00:56:46,494 is National Council for problem 1841 00:56:49,744 --> 00:56:49,994 Gamblers and they recently took 1842 00:56:52,011 --> 00:56:52,261 an astonishing $2 million from 1843 00:56:53,777 --> 00:56:54,027 the prediction market operator 1844 00:56:55,744 --> 00:56:55,994 Calie to essentially become some 1845 00:56:59,711 --> 00:56:59,961 part of Ncpg and even though 1846 00:57:02,011 --> 00:57:02,261 clearly we all believe that that 1847 00:57:03,511 --> 00:57:03,761 what alci is offering is 1848 00:57:05,511 --> 00:57:05,761 unquestionably gambling Ncpg 1849 00:57:06,077 --> 00:57:06,327 created some kind of financial 1850 00:57:10,011 --> 00:57:10,261 carveout that allowed them to 1851 00:57:12,011 --> 00:57:12,261 to join the organization in my 1852 00:57:13,977 --> 00:57:14,227 view purely from a pr standpoint 1853 00:57:15,777 --> 00:57:16,027 to try to make themselves look 1854 00:57:17,744 --> 00:57:17,994 good which also resulted in the 1855 00:57:19,744 --> 00:57:19,994 Michiganaming Controlboardard 1856 00:57:21,744 --> 00:57:21,994 leaving NCpg in protest and I 1857 00:57:24,277 --> 00:57:24,527 believe I believe there's 1858 00:57:25,744 --> 00:57:25,994 there's an organization I'm not 1859 00:57:26,377 --> 00:57:26,627 I wasn't sure if it's the gaming 1860 00:57:28,011 --> 00:57:28,261 control board but one of the 1861 00:57:29,477 --> 00:57:29,727 organizations in Nevada maybe it 1862 00:57:31,477 --> 00:57:31,727 was the Nevada chapter that also 1863 00:57:34,044 --> 00:57:34,294 ended up leaving NCpg in protest 1864 00:57:35,844 --> 00:57:36,094 of that move because they should 1865 00:57:36,544 --> 00:57:36,794 not be recognized as 1866 00:57:38,244 --> 00:57:38,494 anything other than what they 1867 00:57:41,744 --> 00:57:41,994 are which is gambling and 1868 00:57:44,011 --> 00:57:44,261 largely again as as a as a as an 1869 00:57:45,777 --> 00:57:46,027 industry writ large prediction 1870 00:57:47,477 --> 00:57:47,727 markets do not have any kind of 1871 00:57:48,277 --> 00:57:48,527 the comprehensive responsible 1872 00:57:50,477 --> 00:57:50,727 gaming protocols that the that 1873 00:57:52,011 --> 00:57:52,261 the legal licensed state 1874 00:57:53,644 --> 00:57:53,894 regulated sports betting 1875 00:57:54,211 --> 00:57:54,461 industry does. 1876 00:57:56,811 --> 00:57:57,061 thank you so much and thank you 1877 00:57:57,477 --> 00:57:57,727 chairir for that time. 1878 00:58:01,711 --> 00:58:01,961 thank you assemblywoman 1879 00:58:03,711 --> 00:58:03,961 backcchus thank you so much 1880 00:58:05,711 --> 00:58:05,961 madam chairir. I I kind have two 1881 00:58:08,244 --> 00:58:08,494 lines of questioning one I 1882 00:58:11,711 --> 00:58:11,961 was very interested in the the 1883 00:58:13,511 --> 00:58:13,761 reverse suits that are happening 1884 00:58:15,511 --> 00:58:15,761 where the states are being 1885 00:58:17,511 --> 00:58:17,761 sued and federal government and 1886 00:58:19,511 --> 00:58:19,761 I was trying to take a look at 1887 00:58:20,311 --> 00:58:20,561 in my mind I thought it was 1888 00:58:22,011 --> 00:58:22,261 probably for declaratory relief 1889 00:58:23,744 --> 00:58:23,994 like if a state was going to 1890 00:58:26,244 --> 00:58:26,494 implement a law or to deem I 1891 00:58:28,311 --> 00:58:28,561 guess a lot in violation of 1892 00:58:28,877 --> 00:58:29,127 federal law something along 1893 00:58:31,544 --> 00:58:31,794 those lines and so when I was 1894 00:58:32,277 --> 00:58:32,527 trying to match everything up if 1895 00:58:34,011 --> 00:58:34,261 you could kind of elaborate I'm 1896 00:58:36,244 --> 00:58:36,494 just kind of curious like 1897 00:58:38,211 --> 00:58:38,461 what those suits are on like a 1898 00:58:40,211 --> 00:58:40,461 high level like arizona didn't 1899 00:58:42,477 --> 00:58:42,727 look like they had any in 1900 00:58:44,011 --> 00:58:44,261 introduced legislation so I'm 1901 00:58:45,744 --> 00:58:45,994 trying to kind of figure out 1902 00:58:47,677 --> 00:58:47,927 what the basis of the lawsuits 1903 00:58:48,377 --> 00:58:48,627 are. 1904 00:58:51,511 --> 00:58:51,761 sure so that that is a great 1905 00:58:52,244 --> 00:58:52,494 question and I appreciate you 1906 00:58:53,944 --> 00:58:54,194 for asking it so the the answer 1907 00:58:56,011 --> 00:58:56,261 is is that it it varies from 1908 00:58:57,744 --> 00:58:57,994 state to state so there have 1909 00:58:59,977 --> 00:59:00,227 been some instances for example 1910 00:59:01,977 --> 00:59:02,227 Minnesota is a good is a good 1911 00:59:03,711 --> 00:59:03,961 example as well as Kentucky 1912 00:59:05,711 --> 00:59:05,961 where the legislature passed 1913 00:59:07,511 --> 00:59:07,761 legislation that attempted to 1914 00:59:08,244 --> 00:59:08,494 regulate and tax these 1915 00:59:11,511 --> 00:59:11,761 prediction market platforms at 1916 00:59:12,244 --> 00:59:12,494 some level or another in 1917 00:59:13,977 --> 00:59:14,227 Minnesota they attempted to ban 1918 00:59:15,977 --> 00:59:16,227 them entirely in Kentucky they 1919 00:59:17,744 --> 00:59:17,994 basically said you're operating 1920 00:59:18,377 --> 00:59:18,627 illegally but until this is all 1921 00:59:19,077 --> 00:59:19,327 res 1922 00:59:19,944 --> 00:59:20,194 ol ve d we're going to tax you 1923 00:59:23,477 --> 00:59:23,727 at a14.25% tax rate both of 1924 00:59:25,511 --> 00:59:25,761 those states ended up being sued 1925 00:59:27,511 --> 00:59:27,761 by the prediction markets in 1926 00:59:28,211 --> 00:59:28,461 state court in this in the case 1927 00:59:31,477 --> 00:59:31,727 of Minnesota thecFTc also sued 1928 00:59:33,711 --> 00:59:33,961 them and in the the the case of 1929 00:59:35,744 --> 00:59:35,994 Kentucky attorney General 1930 00:59:36,444 --> 00:59:36,694 Coleman actually sued the 1931 00:59:37,977 --> 00:59:38,227 prediction markets right back in 1932 00:59:39,977 --> 00:59:40,227 Kentucky state court and many of 1933 00:59:41,777 --> 00:59:42,027 the other cases you mentioned 1934 00:59:43,744 --> 00:59:43,994 arizona the Arizona attorney 1935 00:59:44,344 --> 00:59:44,594 general actually brought 1936 00:59:47,777 --> 00:59:48,027 criminal charges against against 1937 00:59:48,511 --> 00:59:48,761 Kalshi in their litigation 1938 00:59:51,711 --> 00:59:51,961 which was not again prompted 1939 00:59:53,711 --> 00:59:53,961 by any state legislation it was 1940 00:59:54,411 --> 00:59:54,661 based on an investigation that 1941 00:59:55,977 --> 00:59:56,227 they had done and the and the 1942 00:59:57,977 --> 00:59:58,227 violation of their state laws as 1943 00:59:59,711 --> 00:59:59,961 they saw it there have also been 1944 01:00:01,711 --> 01:00:01,961 other there have also been 1945 01:00:03,711 --> 01:00:03,961 other instances for example in 1946 01:00:06,444 --> 01:00:06,694 Iowa and in Utah where there has 1947 01:00:08,011 --> 01:00:08,261 been no legislation that has 1948 01:00:09,977 --> 01:00:10,227 been passed. there has been no 1949 01:00:12,244 --> 01:00:12,494 enforcement action taken by the 1950 01:00:13,777 --> 01:00:14,027 attorney general but the 1951 01:00:15,511 --> 01:00:15,761 prediction markets have gone and 1952 01:00:16,244 --> 01:00:16,494 met with the attorney general's 1953 01:00:18,144 --> 01:00:18,394 office and asked them a question 1954 01:00:18,811 --> 01:00:19,061 that every single 1955 01:00:20,211 --> 01:00:20,461 attorney general in the United 1956 01:00:21,744 --> 01:00:21,994 States of America would 1957 01:00:23,777 --> 01:00:24,027 unequivocally answer the same 1958 01:00:25,744 --> 01:00:25,994 way which was do you plan on 1959 01:00:27,977 --> 01:00:28,227 taking any enforcement action 1960 01:00:29,711 --> 01:00:29,961 against us that was the question 1961 01:00:31,744 --> 01:00:31,994 posited to both of those As and 1962 01:00:34,211 --> 01:00:34,461 they said as every A in this 1963 01:00:36,211 --> 01:00:36,461 country would say we cannot tell 1964 01:00:37,777 --> 01:00:38,027 you what kind of action we are 1965 01:00:40,011 --> 01:00:40,261 or are not contemplating. that 1966 01:00:41,977 --> 01:00:42,227 was enough to get them sued in 1967 01:00:43,744 --> 01:00:43,994 federal court by the prediction 1968 01:00:45,977 --> 01:00:46,227 markets not saying no we won't 1969 01:00:47,744 --> 01:00:47,994 take action against you that's 1970 01:00:48,344 --> 01:00:48,594 how absurd a lot of this has 1971 01:00:49,011 --> 01:00:49,261 gotten 1972 01:00:49,944 --> 01:00:50,194 and then of course 1973 01:00:53,511 --> 01:00:53,761 some of it is just based on 1974 01:00:56,011 --> 01:00:56,261 public comments AGagG brown 1975 01:00:58,244 --> 01:00:58,494 and and and governor Cox in in 1976 01:01:01,477 --> 01:01:01,727 Utah made strong statements but 1977 01:01:02,244 --> 01:01:02,494 again no no actual legal 1978 01:01:04,244 --> 01:01:04,494 enforcement action to that date 1979 01:01:06,244 --> 01:01:06,494 and that got them sued so this 1980 01:01:07,777 --> 01:01:08,027 is the type of landscape 1981 01:01:09,511 --> 01:01:09,761 unfortunately that we're dealing 1982 01:01:11,744 --> 01:01:11,994 with sometimes the the lawsuits 1983 01:01:14,011 --> 01:01:14,261 start with litigation sometimes 1984 01:01:16,011 --> 01:01:16,261 they sometimes they start by 1985 01:01:18,244 --> 01:01:18,494 just an investigation into the 1986 01:01:19,911 --> 01:01:20,161 into the products and the 1987 01:01:20,477 --> 01:01:20,727 operations by predi 1988 01:01:22,244 --> 01:01:22,494 ction markets that that 1989 01:01:24,477 --> 01:01:24,727 generates organically fromagG's 1990 01:01:25,777 --> 01:01:26,027 offices for example in 1991 01:01:27,477 --> 01:01:27,727 massachusetts they were the 1992 01:01:29,744 --> 01:01:29,994 first state to sue prediction 1993 01:01:31,477 --> 01:01:31,727 markets in state court and that 1994 01:01:32,244 --> 01:01:32,494 was just again based on an 1995 01:01:34,011 --> 01:01:34,261 investigation that they did into 1996 01:01:36,244 --> 01:01:36,494 the laws that they believed that 1997 01:01:37,511 --> 01:01:37,761 prediction markets were 1998 01:01:38,211 --> 01:01:38,461 violating and then in other 1999 01:01:39,977 --> 01:01:40,227 cases again you have you have 2000 01:01:41,977 --> 01:01:42,227 litigation being started by the 2001 01:01:43,711 --> 01:01:43,961 prediction market companies 2002 01:01:46,011 --> 01:01:46,261 simply because anagG has said we 2003 01:01:47,744 --> 01:01:47,994 we will we cannot confirm or 2004 01:01:49,844 --> 01:01:50,094 deny what we plan on doing which 2005 01:01:50,511 --> 01:01:50,761 again every 2006 01:01:52,211 --> 01:01:52,461 ag G in this country would have 2007 01:01:53,944 --> 01:01:54,194 answered the exact same way and 2008 01:01:55,511 --> 01:01:55,761 so that's the type of litigious 2009 01:01:57,777 --> 01:01:58,027 nonsense that unfortunately that 2010 01:02:00,011 --> 01:02:00,261 that we're dealing with and they 2011 01:02:02,011 --> 01:02:02,261 they are trying to take they are 2012 01:02:03,977 --> 01:02:04,227 trying to take advantage of a 2013 01:02:06,244 --> 01:02:06,494 moment in time but at this 2014 01:02:08,011 --> 01:02:08,261 point in the game there have 2015 01:02:09,977 --> 01:02:10,227 been37 different 2016 01:02:13,477 --> 01:02:13,727 federal and state rulings that 2017 01:02:15,744 --> 01:02:15,994 have been issued both by federal 2018 01:02:17,511 --> 01:02:17,761 and state judges across the 2019 01:02:19,544 --> 01:02:19,794 country many in the same states 2020 01:02:20,177 --> 01:02:20,427 met multiple in the state of 2021 01:02:20,877 --> 01:02:21,127 Nevada 2022 01:02:23,711 --> 01:02:23,961 and the states have won31 out of 2023 01:02:25,511 --> 01:02:25,761 those37. so we're batting with 2024 01:02:27,777 --> 01:02:28,027 an84% winning percentage right 2025 01:02:29,777 --> 01:02:30,027 now and I think that's and think 2026 01:02:31,777 --> 01:02:32,027 that's pretty good and and 2027 01:02:32,611 --> 01:02:32,861 and I hope that I hope that 2028 01:02:33,177 --> 01:02:33,427 that continues. 2029 01:02:37,711 --> 01:02:37,961 can't help but make the joke 2030 01:02:39,711 --> 01:02:39,961 that obviously it sounds like if 2031 01:02:40,411 --> 01:02:40,661 I was on the prediction market 2032 01:02:41,977 --> 01:02:42,227 I'd be betting for the states so 2033 01:02:44,244 --> 01:02:44,494 that's kind of interesting 2034 01:02:45,844 --> 01:02:46,094 another thing I noted you know 2035 01:02:47,744 --> 01:02:47,994 it sounds like some of these 2036 01:02:49,511 --> 01:02:49,761 cases aren't ripe and they 2037 01:02:51,711 --> 01:02:51,961 jumped ahead my other question 2038 01:02:55,744 --> 01:02:55,994 pertained to the I know 2039 01:02:57,944 --> 01:02:58,194 you put a amount of economic 2040 01:03:01,777 --> 01:03:02,027 development that is being lost 2041 01:03:03,744 --> 01:03:03,994 due to the situation and I 2042 01:03:04,344 --> 01:03:04,594 don't know if you have any 2043 01:03:05,944 --> 01:03:06,194 charts I know that's economic 2044 01:03:08,111 --> 01:03:08,361 impact of328 billion dollars 2045 01:03:13,477 --> 01:03:13,727 and I guess you do have the tax 2046 01:03:15,977 --> 01:03:16,227 impact of being52.7 billion do 2047 01:03:16,577 --> 01:03:16,827 you have any idea if broken up 2048 01:03:17,977 --> 01:03:18,227 by states like potentially what 2049 01:03:19,944 --> 01:03:20,194 the state of Nevada is losing 2050 01:03:20,677 --> 01:03:20,927 due to these markets. 2051 01:03:25,511 --> 01:03:25,761 should should I should clarify 2052 01:03:26,244 --> 01:03:26,494 thatt those figures that 2053 01:03:27,977 --> 01:03:28,227 you're quoting are is actually 2054 01:03:29,711 --> 01:03:29,961 the economic impact that the 2055 01:03:32,011 --> 01:03:32,261 legal gaming industry provides 2056 01:03:35,477 --> 01:03:35,727 nationwide to to to the 2057 01:03:36,211 --> 01:03:36,461 states that they're active in so 2058 01:03:37,777 --> 01:03:38,027 the the the members that are 2059 01:03:40,011 --> 01:03:40,261 located in Nevada that theagGA 2060 01:03:42,011 --> 01:03:42,261 represents that's the amount of 2061 01:03:44,277 --> 01:03:44,527 of tax revenue and economic 2062 01:03:46,011 --> 01:03:46,261 impact that the legal industry 2063 01:03:48,244 --> 01:03:48,494 is generating which is which 2064 01:03:49,744 --> 01:03:49,994 has the potential to be 2065 01:03:51,644 --> 01:03:51,894 undermined by the prediction 2066 01:03:52,211 --> 01:03:52,461 markets and 2067 01:03:53,977 --> 01:03:54,227 I mentioned a little bit later 2068 01:03:54,577 --> 01:03:54,827 in the presentation I'm sorry if 2069 01:03:56,244 --> 01:03:56,494 that wasn't clear that that 2070 01:03:57,744 --> 01:03:57,994 the prediction markets we 2071 01:03:59,744 --> 01:03:59,994 estimate I believe somewhat 2072 01:04:01,977 --> 01:04:02,227 conservatively that states have 2073 01:04:05,744 --> 01:04:05,994 lost over1.3 billion dollars in 2074 01:04:06,477 --> 01:04:06,727 tax revenue that is being 2075 01:04:08,011 --> 01:04:08,261 siphoned away because of these 2076 01:04:10,011 --> 01:04:10,261 prediction market activities 2077 01:04:12,011 --> 01:04:12,261 and so again I think that that 2078 01:04:13,977 --> 01:04:14,227 is probably actually in in an 2079 01:04:15,777 --> 01:04:16,027 underestimate I think that there 2080 01:04:17,511 --> 01:04:17,761 are some other smart folks 2081 01:04:18,111 --> 01:04:18,361 that are looking at it and think 2082 01:04:19,744 --> 01:04:19,994 the number is is significantly 2083 01:04:21,644 --> 01:04:21,894 higher but states have lost over 2084 01:04:22,311 --> 01:04:22,561 a billion 2085 01:04:24,277 --> 01:04:24,527 dollars in tax revenue that goes 2086 01:04:25,744 --> 01:04:25,994 to fund extremely important 2087 01:04:27,511 --> 01:04:27,761 things whatever the state 2088 01:04:28,244 --> 01:04:28,494 decides it goes to whether it's 2089 01:04:29,511 --> 01:04:29,761 education whether it's 2090 01:04:30,211 --> 01:04:30,461 infrastructure those types of 2091 01:04:32,011 --> 01:04:32,261 things that money is being 2092 01:04:34,211 --> 01:04:34,461 siphoned off and I think that 2093 01:04:36,244 --> 01:04:36,494 state departments of revenue and 2094 01:04:38,044 --> 01:04:38,294 and certainly the the the 2095 01:04:39,777 --> 01:04:40,027 agencies that are charged with 2096 01:04:41,511 --> 01:04:41,761 overseeing the the programs that 2097 01:04:42,311 --> 01:04:42,561 derived a lot of their funding 2098 01:04:44,244 --> 01:04:44,494 from sports betting tax revenue. 2099 01:04:45,977 --> 01:04:46,227 I know of a number of of states 2100 01:04:48,277 --> 01:04:48,527 where that where that revenue is 2101 01:04:49,744 --> 01:04:49,994 starting to dwindle and I think 2102 01:04:50,444 --> 01:04:50,694 I think we all know why that is 2103 01:04:54,244 --> 01:04:54,494 thank you for that and when 2104 01:04:55,777 --> 01:04:56,027 looking at your chart it seems 2105 01:04:57,744 --> 01:04:57,994 like that number will continue 2106 01:04:58,444 --> 01:04:58,694 to expand unless something's 2107 01:05:00,111 --> 01:05:00,361 done so thank you thank you 2108 01:05:00,677 --> 01:05:00,927 madam ma'am thank you 2109 01:05:03,944 --> 01:05:04,194 thank you for that so are are 2110 01:05:05,944 --> 01:05:06,194 you gonna stay on Mr York while 2111 01:05:09,511 --> 01:05:09,761 chairdreiter presents OK 2112 01:05:10,111 --> 01:05:10,361 so we're gonna call 2113 01:05:12,211 --> 01:05:12,461 thank you so we're gonna call 2114 01:05:15,644 --> 01:05:15,894 chairreitzer up from the Nevada 2115 01:05:16,311 --> 01:05:16,561 Gaming control boardard. 2116 01:05:21,677 --> 01:05:21,927 Welcome to interim 2117 01:05:24,511 --> 01:05:24,761 very good 2118 01:05:29,944 --> 01:05:30,194 good morning chairirneal 2119 01:05:31,777 --> 01:05:32,027 vicechair Bacchus and 2120 01:05:32,477 --> 01:05:32,727 distinguished members of the 2121 01:05:33,911 --> 01:05:34,161 joint interim standing Committee 2122 01:05:34,577 --> 01:05:34,827 on Revenue 2123 01:05:37,711 --> 01:05:37,961 for the record my name is Mike 2124 01:05:38,444 --> 01:05:38,694 Dreitzer and I serve as the 2125 01:05:40,011 --> 01:05:40,261 chairman of the Nevada Gaming 2126 01:05:41,977 --> 01:05:42,227 Control Board. I appreciate the 2127 01:05:43,744 --> 01:05:43,994 opportunity to appear before you 2128 01:05:45,511 --> 01:05:45,761 today and discuss prediction 2129 01:05:46,277 --> 01:05:46,527 markets and the concerns they 2130 01:05:49,511 --> 01:05:49,761 raise for Nevada during my 2131 01:05:50,111 --> 01:05:50,361 presentation I also will be 2132 01:05:51,511 --> 01:05:51,761 providing an update on our 2133 01:05:52,311 --> 01:05:52,561 effort to protect the state of 2134 01:05:53,944 --> 01:05:54,194 Nevada against these growing 2135 01:05:54,611 --> 01:05:54,861 threats 2136 01:05:59,744 --> 01:05:59,994 the board has taken a very 2137 01:06:01,744 --> 01:06:01,994 active approach to limit the 2138 01:06:02,344 --> 01:06:02,594 operations of prediction markets 2139 01:06:04,011 --> 01:06:04,261 in the state of Nevada. these 2140 01:06:07,477 --> 01:06:07,727 petition markets offer sports 2141 01:06:08,111 --> 01:06:08,361 betting and everyone who sees it 2142 01:06:08,777 --> 01:06:09,027 knows it. 2143 01:06:11,711 --> 01:06:11,961 that's what the federal court in 2144 01:06:13,511 --> 01:06:13,761 our cases have said and that's 2145 01:06:15,711 --> 01:06:15,961 very obvious as Mr York has said 2146 01:06:18,177 --> 01:06:18,427 it is quite clearly an en run to 2147 01:06:20,477 --> 01:06:20,727 allow sports wagering in all 50 2148 01:06:21,144 --> 01:06:21,394 states in the country. 2149 01:06:25,544 --> 01:06:25,794 for instance over 90% ofaloci's 2150 01:06:27,577 --> 01:06:27,827 revenue comes from sports 2151 01:06:28,344 --> 01:06:28,594 betting to give you an idea of 2152 01:06:29,977 --> 01:06:30,227 the magnitude of what's 2153 01:06:32,244 --> 01:06:32,494 happening. Last year alci 2154 01:06:34,511 --> 01:06:34,761 crypto.com and Robinhoodod sued 2155 01:06:36,044 --> 01:06:36,294 the Nevada Gaming 2156 01:06:38,011 --> 01:06:38,261 Controlboardard seeking a ruling 2157 01:06:38,711 --> 01:06:38,961 that they were allowed to 2158 01:06:41,511 --> 01:06:41,761 operate unlicensed gaming in the 2159 01:06:42,277 --> 01:06:42,527 state the federal district court 2160 01:06:44,244 --> 01:06:44,494 disagreed and ruled for the 2161 01:06:46,011 --> 01:06:46,261 state. The prediction markets 2162 01:06:47,511 --> 01:06:47,761 appealed to theinth Circuit and 2163 01:06:49,511 --> 01:06:49,761 a ruling in that matter is 2164 01:06:50,277 --> 01:06:50,527 expected any day 2165 01:06:51,677 --> 01:06:51,927 we are hopeful that the court 2166 01:06:53,744 --> 01:06:53,994 will see them for what they are 2167 01:06:55,744 --> 01:06:55,994 and affirm the district court's 2168 01:06:57,744 --> 01:06:57,994 ruling at the same time the 2169 01:06:59,977 --> 01:07:00,227 board has also gone on the 2170 01:07:02,211 --> 01:07:02,461 offensive we have taken the 2171 01:07:04,044 --> 01:07:04,294 position that of course these 2172 01:07:04,711 --> 01:07:04,961 are 2173 01:07:07,777 --> 01:07:08,027 activities that are 2174 01:07:08,277 --> 01:07:08,527 unacceptable in the state of 2175 01:07:10,244 --> 01:07:10,494 Nevada it's unlicensed gambling 2176 01:07:11,977 --> 01:07:12,227 and we brought enforcement 2177 01:07:13,511 --> 01:07:13,761 actions in state court 2178 01:07:15,711 --> 01:07:15,961 againstalshi polymarket and 2179 01:07:17,511 --> 01:07:17,761 coinbase. The board did not 2180 01:07:18,277 --> 01:07:18,527 bring enforcement action against 2181 01:07:19,977 --> 01:07:20,227 Robinhoodod and crypto.com 2182 01:07:21,777 --> 01:07:22,027 because they agreed to stand 2183 01:07:23,777 --> 01:07:24,027 down during the pending appeal. 2184 01:07:25,744 --> 01:07:25,994 state court judges entered 2185 01:07:26,377 --> 01:07:26,627 preliminary injunctions against 2186 01:07:29,511 --> 01:07:29,761 coinnbase on March 26thalshi 2187 01:07:31,511 --> 01:07:31,761 May4th and Polymarket on 2188 01:07:33,511 --> 01:07:33,761 July8th. each preliminary 2189 01:07:34,111 --> 01:07:34,361 injunction order obligated these 2190 01:07:37,777 --> 01:07:38,027 prediction markets to bar users 2191 01:07:39,511 --> 01:07:39,761 in Nevada from placing 2192 01:07:41,511 --> 01:07:41,761 prohibited bets by a date 2193 01:07:43,711 --> 01:07:43,961 certain the final deadline for 2194 01:07:45,977 --> 01:07:46,227 any of these is polymarket 2195 01:07:46,544 --> 01:07:46,794 which is August 22nd. 2196 01:07:49,511 --> 01:07:49,761 the board's investigators have 2197 01:07:51,511 --> 01:07:51,761 checked to ensure that the 2198 01:07:52,111 --> 01:07:52,361 prediction markets are meeting 2199 01:07:54,244 --> 01:07:54,494 their obligations notablyalhi 2200 01:07:57,477 --> 01:07:57,727 was required to fully bar users 2201 01:07:58,211 --> 01:07:58,461 in Nevada from placing 2202 01:08:00,477 --> 01:08:00,727 prohibited bets by August12 but 2203 01:08:02,244 --> 01:08:02,494 the investigator's work showed 2204 01:08:04,277 --> 01:08:04,527 that Calci did not meet that 2205 01:08:06,011 --> 01:08:06,261 deadline and we are currently 2206 01:08:07,744 --> 01:08:07,994 seeking penalties from Kalshi 2207 01:08:10,011 --> 01:08:10,261 for its failure to abide by that 2208 01:08:12,044 --> 01:08:12,294 court order in a timely manner 2209 01:08:13,511 --> 01:08:13,761 and I'm gonna say this solely 2210 01:08:14,277 --> 01:08:14,527 because this is really the 2211 01:08:16,077 --> 01:08:16,327 important upshot of all of this 2212 01:08:16,744 --> 01:08:16,994 the result is that 2213 01:08:19,811 --> 01:08:20,061 all prediction markets that were 2214 01:08:22,044 --> 01:08:22,294 known to be operating in nevada 2215 01:08:24,277 --> 01:08:24,527 have been required to restrict 2216 01:08:24,944 --> 01:08:25,194 their operations. 2217 01:08:28,211 --> 01:08:28,461 and that that of course is 2218 01:08:29,977 --> 01:08:30,227 critical as has been indicated 2219 01:08:31,977 --> 01:08:32,227 we are pending additional court 2220 01:08:35,477 --> 01:08:35,727 cases both federally and in many 2221 01:08:37,477 --> 01:08:37,727 states and it's very important 2222 01:08:39,477 --> 01:08:39,727 again to say that all prediction 2223 01:08:40,211 --> 01:08:40,461 markets that were known to be 2224 01:08:41,777 --> 01:08:42,027 operating in Nevada have been 2225 01:08:43,511 --> 01:08:43,761 required to restrict their 2226 01:08:44,144 --> 01:08:44,394 application their their 2227 01:08:44,644 --> 01:08:44,894 operations 2228 01:08:48,011 --> 01:08:48,261 we are not alone in our success 2229 01:08:49,744 --> 01:08:49,994 litigation against prediction 2230 01:08:51,511 --> 01:08:51,761 markets is occurring throughout 2231 01:08:52,211 --> 01:08:52,461 the country as has been 2232 01:08:53,977 --> 01:08:54,227 indicated the vast majority of 2233 01:08:55,744 --> 01:08:55,994 courts have agreed with our side 2234 01:08:57,477 --> 01:08:57,727 and ruled that states can 2235 01:08:58,244 --> 01:08:58,494 regulate prediction markets like 2236 01:08:59,777 --> 01:09:00,027 they regulate gambling 2237 01:09:02,011 --> 01:09:02,261 specifically13 trial courts have 2238 01:09:04,277 --> 01:09:04,527 favored the states o trial 2239 01:09:05,744 --> 01:09:05,994 courts have favored the 2240 01:09:07,511 --> 01:09:07,761 prediction markets and decisions 2241 01:09:09,744 --> 01:09:09,994 are still pending in five trial 2242 01:09:10,511 --> 01:09:10,761 courts. The only federal court 2243 01:09:12,011 --> 01:09:12,261 of appeals to have ruled is 2244 01:09:14,044 --> 01:09:14,294 thehirdcircuit in a 2 to1 2245 01:09:14,611 --> 01:09:14,861 decision it ruled for Kalshi 2246 01:09:17,511 --> 01:09:17,761 New Jersey has stated it will 2247 01:09:18,277 --> 01:09:18,527 ask the US Supreme Court to 2248 01:09:20,211 --> 01:09:20,461 review the case and the petition 2249 01:09:23,744 --> 01:09:23,994 is due by September3rd. Several 2250 01:09:25,477 --> 01:09:25,727 other appeals have been argued 2251 01:09:26,211 --> 01:09:26,461 in addition to ours in theinth 2252 01:09:28,211 --> 01:09:28,461 Circuit and decisions are 2253 01:09:29,511 --> 01:09:29,761 expected imminently in those 2254 01:09:31,777 --> 01:09:32,027 cases as well as well. these are 2255 01:09:33,511 --> 01:09:33,761 the ourth Circuit in Maryland, 2256 01:09:34,277 --> 01:09:34,527 theixth Circuit Ohio and 2257 01:09:36,277 --> 01:09:36,527 Tennessee and the Massachusetts 2258 01:09:39,477 --> 01:09:39,727 Supreme Court judicial court 2259 01:09:42,044 --> 01:09:42,294 the legal arguments are quite 2260 01:09:44,044 --> 01:09:44,294 clear the state's success in our 2261 01:09:44,711 --> 01:09:44,961 litigation is no 2262 01:09:48,244 --> 01:09:48,494 surprise it's absolutely settled 2263 01:09:50,011 --> 01:09:50,261 law that the state's not the 2264 01:09:51,544 --> 01:09:51,794 federal government regulate 2265 01:09:53,677 --> 01:09:53,927 gambling. it's a traditional 2266 01:09:54,411 --> 01:09:54,661 police power of the state's 2267 01:09:55,977 --> 01:09:56,227 recognized by the US Supreme 2268 01:09:58,011 --> 01:09:58,261 Court. The court reaffirmed this 2269 01:09:59,977 --> 01:10:00,227 in Murphy versus the NcAA in 2270 01:10:02,277 --> 01:10:02,527 2018 when it said that each 2271 01:10:04,011 --> 01:10:04,261 state gets to decide how it 2272 01:10:04,611 --> 01:10:04,861 wants to regulate gambling full 2273 01:10:05,311 --> 01:10:05,561 stop. 2274 01:10:07,744 --> 01:10:07,994 because gambling is well 2275 01:10:09,511 --> 01:10:09,761 recognized as an area of 2276 01:10:10,211 --> 01:10:10,461 traditional state regulation 2277 01:10:12,244 --> 01:10:12,494 there is a strong presumption 2278 01:10:14,211 --> 01:10:14,461 against preemption that is a 2279 01:10:15,711 --> 01:10:15,961 strong presumption that the 2280 01:10:17,944 --> 01:10:18,194 federal law does not push aside 2281 01:10:19,711 --> 01:10:19,961 state gambling law which it 2282 01:10:21,977 --> 01:10:22,227 doesn't in this case if Congress 2283 01:10:23,777 --> 01:10:24,027 wanted to push aside state laws 2284 01:10:25,811 --> 01:10:26,061 on gambling. Congress would have 2285 01:10:27,511 --> 01:10:27,761 to say that very clearly and 2286 01:10:28,277 --> 01:10:28,527 they most certainly have not. 2287 01:10:29,977 --> 01:10:30,227 The prediction markets have 2288 01:10:31,511 --> 01:10:31,761 argued that the federal 2289 01:10:33,744 --> 01:10:33,994 commodities exchange the CEA 2290 01:10:34,611 --> 01:10:34,861 preempts state gambling law 2291 01:10:35,177 --> 01:10:35,427 meaning that 2292 01:10:38,011 --> 01:10:38,261 if they list their sports bets 2293 01:10:39,744 --> 01:10:39,994 on a market regulated by the 2294 01:10:40,511 --> 01:10:40,761 commodity Futurestrading 2295 01:10:42,011 --> 01:10:42,261 Commission otherwise known as 2296 01:10:44,277 --> 01:10:44,527 the CFc and the sports bets can 2297 01:10:47,477 --> 01:10:47,727 only be regulated by thecFTc and 2298 01:10:48,211 --> 01:10:48,461 not by any state or Indian 2299 01:10:51,511 --> 01:10:51,761 tribe. The CFTc supports the 2300 01:10:52,511 --> 01:10:52,761 prediction market's position as 2301 01:10:54,311 --> 01:10:54,561 has been indicated but the CFdc 2302 01:10:56,044 --> 01:10:56,294 previously took the opposite 2303 01:10:58,011 --> 01:10:58,261 position and disclaimed any 2304 01:11:00,011 --> 01:11:00,261 ability to regulate gaming so 2305 01:11:03,511 --> 01:11:03,761 this is a recent abrupt about 2306 01:11:04,611 --> 01:11:04,861 face. there is ab no evidence to 2307 01:11:08,011 --> 01:11:08,261 show that is what Congress 2308 01:11:09,977 --> 01:11:10,227 intended. The CEA is about 2309 01:11:11,777 --> 01:11:12,027 regulating commodity derivatives 2310 01:11:13,744 --> 01:11:13,994 such as corn and soybean 2311 01:11:15,744 --> 01:11:15,994 futures. these are products that 2312 01:11:16,444 --> 01:11:16,694 companies traditionally have 2313 01:11:18,244 --> 01:11:18,494 used to hedge financial risk. 2314 01:11:21,744 --> 01:11:21,994 Sports bets are not commodity 2315 01:11:22,477 --> 01:11:22,727 derivatives they are for 2316 01:11:24,211 --> 01:11:24,461 entertainment. they do not hedge 2317 01:11:26,244 --> 01:11:26,494 any existing risk and the 2318 01:11:27,911 --> 01:11:28,161 betting itself creates a risk 2319 01:11:31,977 --> 01:11:32,227 it simply is not true that 2320 01:11:33,744 --> 01:11:33,994 anything a company chooses to 2321 01:11:35,477 --> 01:11:35,727 list on a CFdc regulated market 2322 01:11:37,511 --> 01:11:37,761 is subject to the CFTC's 2323 01:11:38,477 --> 01:11:38,727 exclusive jurisdiction that is 2324 01:11:40,277 --> 01:11:40,527 just not what the statute says. 2325 01:11:42,011 --> 01:11:42,261 The statute only applies to 2326 01:11:43,511 --> 01:11:43,761 commodity derivatives such as 2327 01:11:45,477 --> 01:11:45,727 swaps and sports bettingsl 2328 01:11:46,211 --> 01:11:46,461 sports bets clearly are not 2329 01:11:49,477 --> 01:11:49,727 swaps the CFTCs and the 2330 01:11:50,211 --> 01:11:50,461 prediction market's position 2331 01:11:51,744 --> 01:11:51,994 would take away the state's 2332 01:11:53,744 --> 01:11:53,994 ability to regulate gambling and 2333 01:11:55,744 --> 01:11:55,994 would shift all sports betting 2334 01:11:57,511 --> 01:11:57,761 from licensed sports books to 2335 01:11:58,611 --> 01:11:58,861 the CFTc which is clearly an 2336 01:11:59,177 --> 01:11:59,427 absurd result 2337 01:12:02,211 --> 01:12:02,461 The CFTC is not a gaming 2338 01:12:04,211 --> 01:12:04,461 regulator. it does not have the 2339 01:12:06,177 --> 01:12:06,427 expertise or the resources to 2340 01:12:08,211 --> 01:12:08,461 effectively regulate gaming and 2341 01:12:09,511 --> 01:12:09,761 in the past it's specifically 2342 01:12:11,511 --> 01:12:11,761 disclaimed that it was a gaming 2343 01:12:13,511 --> 01:12:13,761 regulator. The CFTC is in the 2344 01:12:14,111 --> 01:12:14,361 prediction market's position is 2345 01:12:16,211 --> 01:12:16,461 also absurd. The CEA says that 2346 01:12:18,211 --> 01:12:18,461 if a consumer contract is a swap 2347 01:12:19,977 --> 01:12:20,227 then it must be traded on the 2348 01:12:22,044 --> 01:12:22,294 CFTc regulated exchange if 2349 01:12:24,011 --> 01:12:24,261 sports bets are swapped sports 2350 01:12:25,977 --> 01:12:26,227 betting would have to be done on 2351 01:12:27,977 --> 01:12:28,227 CFc regulated markets and 2352 01:12:28,611 --> 01:12:28,861 clearly Congress never intended 2353 01:12:29,277 --> 01:12:29,527 that 2354 01:12:31,977 --> 01:12:32,227 in terms of the state's 2355 01:12:33,711 --> 01:12:33,961 interests that we are protecting 2356 01:12:36,211 --> 01:12:36,461 we are making the CFTs the 2357 01:12:37,711 --> 01:12:37,961 important state interests if 2358 01:12:38,411 --> 01:12:38,661 they move forward and are 2359 01:12:41,977 --> 01:12:42,227 successful the CFTc would be the 2360 01:12:43,977 --> 01:12:44,227 nation's gaming regulator which 2361 01:12:45,511 --> 01:12:45,761 of course would be a serious 2362 01:12:47,477 --> 01:12:47,727 affront to the state of Nevada 2363 01:12:48,244 --> 01:12:48,494 and all states that otherwise 2364 01:12:50,477 --> 01:12:50,727 regulate gaming successfully and 2365 01:12:52,244 --> 01:12:52,494 have done so for many decades as 2366 01:12:53,711 --> 01:12:53,961 a district court in our case 2367 01:12:54,377 --> 01:12:54,627 said 2368 01:12:57,711 --> 01:12:57,961 this is direct 2369 01:13:00,544 --> 01:13:00,794 contrast to decades of 2370 01:13:00,977 --> 01:13:01,227 federalism principles 2371 01:13:07,777 --> 01:13:08,027 Taking away the NGCb's ability 2372 01:13:09,711 --> 01:13:09,961 to fully regulate sports betting 2373 01:13:11,511 --> 01:13:11,761 would be financially devastating 2374 01:13:13,511 --> 01:13:13,761 to the state of Nevada. Gaming 2375 01:13:14,311 --> 01:13:14,561 revenue is obviously a 2376 01:13:16,011 --> 01:13:16,261 significant part of the state 2377 01:13:17,977 --> 01:13:18,227 budget for for Nevada the 2378 01:13:20,077 --> 01:13:20,327 CFTC and the prediction market's 2379 01:13:22,277 --> 01:13:22,527 position could take that away 2380 01:13:25,477 --> 01:13:25,727 completely and so we are clear 2381 01:13:27,511 --> 01:13:27,761 it doesn't end with sports 2382 01:13:29,544 --> 01:13:29,794 betting this could very clearly 2383 01:13:31,511 --> 01:13:31,761 over time and the door has been 2384 01:13:33,844 --> 01:13:34,094 left open to have the supply to 2385 01:13:34,544 --> 01:13:34,794 other types of gambling 2386 01:13:37,511 --> 01:13:37,761 besides sports betting 2387 01:13:38,244 --> 01:13:38,494 including casino gaming and of 2388 01:13:40,211 --> 01:13:40,461 course online wagering of other 2389 01:13:40,877 --> 01:13:41,127 sorts 2390 01:13:43,777 --> 01:13:44,027 it would take away the state's 2391 01:13:44,377 --> 01:13:44,627 ability to protect their 2392 01:13:46,244 --> 01:13:46,494 citizens for example Nevada 2393 01:13:48,244 --> 01:13:48,494 banns people under 21 from 2394 01:13:49,977 --> 01:13:50,227 gambling and the prediction 2395 01:13:52,011 --> 01:13:52,261 markets do not allowing 18 2396 01:13:54,011 --> 01:13:54,261 yearolds to gamble. Other key 2397 01:13:56,011 --> 01:13:56,261 areas of consumer protection 2398 01:13:58,011 --> 01:13:58,261 that are in a great concern 2399 01:14:00,011 --> 01:14:00,261 within this scheme are money 2400 01:14:01,744 --> 01:14:01,994 laundering protections, know 2401 01:14:03,777 --> 01:14:04,027 your customer requirements 2402 01:14:04,511 --> 01:14:04,761 problem gambling of which there 2403 01:14:06,277 --> 01:14:06,527 are little to no protections 2404 01:14:10,377 --> 01:14:10,627 with these federal prediction 2405 01:14:11,044 --> 01:14:11,294 markets patronon dispute 2406 01:14:14,277 --> 01:14:14,527 resolution insider betting slash 2407 01:14:16,244 --> 01:14:16,494 lack of fair wagering. one thing 2408 01:14:17,744 --> 01:14:17,994 we do know in the state of 2409 01:14:19,511 --> 01:14:19,761 Nevada is that when someone 2410 01:14:20,111 --> 01:14:20,361 risks their money 2411 01:14:23,511 --> 01:14:23,761 at at a casino or at another 2412 01:14:25,511 --> 01:14:25,761 licensed gaming establishment 2413 01:14:26,111 --> 01:14:26,361 that they are getting the 2414 01:14:27,811 --> 01:14:28,061 opportunity for a fair wager, I 2415 01:14:30,044 --> 01:14:30,294 think that the news reports of 2416 01:14:32,244 --> 01:14:32,494 the various events that have 2417 01:14:33,477 --> 01:14:33,727 occurred 2418 01:14:35,777 --> 01:14:36,027 the cheating that has occurred 2419 01:14:36,411 --> 01:14:36,661 as it pertains to prediction 2420 01:14:39,777 --> 01:14:40,027 markets is quite clear and 2421 01:14:40,344 --> 01:14:40,594 there's no protection or very 2422 01:14:41,011 --> 01:14:41,261 limited protection in 2423 01:14:43,077 --> 01:14:43,327 that regard 2424 01:14:45,744 --> 01:14:45,994 there also has as been indicated 2425 01:14:47,677 --> 01:14:47,927 by Mr York been misleading and 2426 01:14:48,344 --> 01:14:48,594 inappropriate adverti 2427 01:14:55,511 --> 01:14:55,761 a broad coalition of44 states 2428 01:14:56,244 --> 01:14:56,494 plus the district of Columbia 2429 01:14:57,844 --> 01:14:58,094 has has been indicated has filed 2430 01:14:59,977 --> 01:15:00,227 ames amicus briefs to say that 2431 01:15:02,011 --> 01:15:02,261 the CFc and the prediction 2432 01:15:03,777 --> 01:15:04,027 market's arguments are flat 2433 01:15:05,744 --> 01:15:05,994 wrong. Many other individual and 2434 01:15:07,511 --> 01:15:07,761 groups have filed amicus briefs 2435 01:15:08,211 --> 01:15:08,461 in support of the states 2436 01:15:09,544 --> 01:15:09,794 including a broad coalition of 2437 01:15:11,777 --> 01:15:12,027 Indian tribes the AGA a 2438 01:15:13,777 --> 01:15:14,027 professor who is a CFTC expert 2439 01:15:16,244 --> 01:15:16,494 and multiple responsible gaming 2440 01:15:18,277 --> 01:15:18,527 organizations in conclusion we 2441 01:15:20,044 --> 01:15:20,294 at the Nevada Gaming Control 2442 01:15:20,644 --> 01:15:20,894 Board have done everything 2443 01:15:21,244 --> 01:15:21,494 possible 2444 01:15:24,044 --> 01:15:24,294 to fight this matter and made 2445 01:15:26,011 --> 01:15:26,261 our stance very clear that any 2446 01:15:28,277 --> 01:15:28,527 involvement by our licensees in 2447 01:15:31,544 --> 01:15:31,794 the prediction markets is a 2448 01:15:33,511 --> 01:15:33,761 status that is incompatible with 2449 01:15:34,244 --> 01:15:34,494 their ability to participate in 2450 01:15:36,277 --> 01:15:36,527 gaming in Nevada and it was 2451 01:15:37,777 --> 01:15:38,027 important that we take that 2452 01:15:41,744 --> 01:15:41,994 stand we look forward to the 2453 01:15:43,511 --> 01:15:43,761 court rulings because we most 2454 01:15:44,211 --> 01:15:44,461 certainly feel as though and 2455 01:15:46,244 --> 01:15:46,494 know as so we are in the right 2456 01:15:49,711 --> 01:15:49,961 given the history Nevada last 2457 01:15:50,411 --> 01:15:50,661 year Nevada Gaming 2458 01:15:50,844 --> 01:15:51,094 Controlboardard 2459 01:15:53,744 --> 01:15:53,994 proudly celebrated its 70th 2460 01:15:56,211 --> 01:15:56,461 anniversary as the gold standard 2461 01:15:57,744 --> 01:15:57,994 of regulation not only in the 2462 01:15:58,344 --> 01:15:58,594 United States but in the 2463 01:16:01,511 --> 01:16:01,761 world.aming regulation is 2464 01:16:02,211 --> 01:16:02,461 complex.aming regulation is 2465 01:16:04,211 --> 01:16:04,461 nuanced but it is the 2466 01:16:08,477 --> 01:16:08,727 underpinning for all those who 2467 01:16:09,744 --> 01:16:09,994 invest in gaming and all of 2468 01:16:11,511 --> 01:16:11,761 those who participate in the 2469 01:16:13,511 --> 01:16:13,761 gaming industry and it was 2470 01:16:14,244 --> 01:16:14,494 necessary to preserve that so 2471 01:16:16,244 --> 01:16:16,494 again I just want to repeat the 2472 01:16:19,477 --> 01:16:19,727 one point that the goal has been 2473 01:16:20,377 --> 01:16:20,627 achieved and that is all sports 2474 01:16:21,111 --> 01:16:21,361 predi 2475 01:16:24,011 --> 01:16:24,261 ction market contracts have been 2476 01:16:25,477 --> 01:16:25,727 restricted from the state of 2477 01:16:26,477 --> 01:16:26,727 Nevada so the cases will keep 2478 01:16:27,977 --> 01:16:28,227 going through the court but 2479 01:16:29,977 --> 01:16:30,227 importantly as we head towards 2480 01:16:32,011 --> 01:16:32,261 football season which of course 2481 01:16:33,777 --> 01:16:34,027 will be very busy for us as it 2482 01:16:36,011 --> 01:16:36,261 always is traditionally there 2483 01:16:38,277 --> 01:16:38,527 have been successful 2484 01:16:39,777 --> 01:16:40,027 restrictions placed on the 2485 01:16:41,511 --> 01:16:41,761 prediction markets as the sports 2486 01:16:43,511 --> 01:16:43,761 betting I thank you for your 2487 01:16:45,677 --> 01:16:45,927 time and I'd be happy to 2488 01:16:46,277 --> 01:16:46,527 answer any questions that you 2489 01:16:46,911 --> 01:16:47,161 may have 2490 01:16:49,677 --> 01:16:49,927 thank you for that senator 2491 01:16:50,211 --> 01:16:50,461 Danyna 2492 01:16:55,744 --> 01:16:55,994 thank you chair. first and 2493 01:16:57,511 --> 01:16:57,761 foremost, thank you for the 2494 01:16:58,077 --> 01:16:58,327 presentation and for your 2495 01:16:58,644 --> 01:16:58,894 commentary 2496 01:17:01,711 --> 01:17:01,961 I'm of the belief that 2497 01:17:03,511 --> 01:17:03,761 prediction markets are the 2498 01:17:05,511 --> 01:17:05,761 greatest threat to our our 2499 01:17:07,511 --> 01:17:07,761 state's economy. this is 2500 01:17:08,011 --> 01:17:08,261 probably one of the most 2501 01:17:09,511 --> 01:17:09,761 pervasive issues that has been 2502 01:17:10,311 --> 01:17:10,561 rising in the last couple of 2503 01:17:10,977 --> 01:17:11,227 years 2504 01:17:14,244 --> 01:17:14,494 and there are components of this 2505 01:17:16,477 --> 01:17:16,727 that I think probably started 2506 01:17:18,011 --> 01:17:18,261 off as frivolous and now have 2507 01:17:19,744 --> 01:17:19,994 become nefarious on purpose by 2508 01:17:21,511 --> 01:17:21,761 some of the bad actors 2509 01:17:22,044 --> 01:17:22,294 specifically Kalcy and 2510 01:17:22,511 --> 01:17:22,761 Polymarket. 2511 01:17:25,711 --> 01:17:25,961 I guess my question is 2512 01:17:28,044 --> 01:17:28,294 I understand the regulatory 2513 01:17:30,011 --> 01:17:30,261 standpoint of the gaming control 2514 01:17:31,511 --> 01:17:31,761 board and you're currently in 2515 01:17:32,511 --> 01:17:32,761 litigation so I'm not gonna ask 2516 01:17:33,777 --> 01:17:34,027 questions relating to that 2517 01:17:34,477 --> 01:17:34,727 because I know it's a it would 2518 01:17:35,144 --> 01:17:35,394 be hard to comment on them 2519 01:17:39,511 --> 01:17:39,761 I think my main quest I have two 2520 01:17:41,777 --> 01:17:42,027 questions first and foremost in 2521 01:17:42,377 --> 01:17:42,627 the moments that 2522 01:17:45,744 --> 01:17:45,994 coci and some of the production 2523 01:17:47,477 --> 01:17:47,727 markets were operating in the 2524 01:17:48,244 --> 01:17:48,494 state so it's my understanding 2525 01:17:50,044 --> 01:17:50,294 gaming control boardard 2526 01:17:50,611 --> 01:17:50,861 responded sent them a cease and 2527 01:17:51,277 --> 01:17:51,527 desist letter 2528 01:17:53,777 --> 01:17:54,027 but there were still active days 2529 01:17:55,511 --> 01:17:55,761 that they were perhaps taking 2530 01:17:56,144 --> 01:17:56,394 bets or so forth from any 2531 01:18:00,211 --> 01:18:00,461 resident of this state I 2532 01:18:03,511 --> 01:18:03,761 guess my question is does the 2533 01:18:04,311 --> 01:18:04,561 gaming control board right now 2534 01:18:06,244 --> 01:18:06,494 have the ability to identify any 2535 01:18:09,511 --> 01:18:09,761 potential victims retroactively 2536 01:18:11,511 --> 01:18:11,761 that may have participated 2537 01:18:12,244 --> 01:18:12,494 while those prediction markets 2538 01:18:14,011 --> 01:18:14,261 were operating in the state 2539 01:18:14,644 --> 01:18:14,894 before they closed their 2540 01:18:16,277 --> 01:18:16,527 operations subject to the cease 2541 01:18:18,044 --> 01:18:18,294 and desist. Is that something 2542 01:18:20,277 --> 01:18:20,527 that we can gather 2543 01:18:23,511 --> 01:18:23,761 within the current regulatory 2544 01:18:25,511 --> 01:18:25,761 authority I guess my the reason 2545 01:18:26,177 --> 01:18:26,427 why I'm asking this is 2546 01:18:30,511 --> 01:18:30,761 clearly someone needs to go 2547 01:18:31,744 --> 01:18:31,994 to jail in my opinion this has 2548 01:18:33,777 --> 01:18:34,027 been pretty criminal and some of 2549 01:18:34,444 --> 01:18:34,694 the actions that have taken 2550 01:18:34,977 --> 01:18:35,227 place nationally 2551 01:18:37,977 --> 01:18:38,227 and if there was a minor that 2552 01:18:39,777 --> 01:18:40,027 was trading under this 2553 01:18:41,511 --> 01:18:41,761 prediction market that was 2554 01:18:42,244 --> 01:18:42,494 located in our state I mean 2555 01:18:43,544 --> 01:18:43,794 there has to be a level of 2556 01:18:44,244 --> 01:18:44,494 restitution that needs to be 2557 01:18:46,011 --> 01:18:46,261 paid for and so I guess my 2558 01:18:47,744 --> 01:18:47,994 question is do we have already 2559 01:18:48,444 --> 01:18:48,694 the regulatory authority to 2560 01:18:50,177 --> 01:18:50,427 identify who these victims of if 2561 01:18:51,944 --> 01:18:52,194 there is such cases in our 2562 01:18:52,477 --> 01:18:52,727 state. 2563 01:18:55,977 --> 01:18:56,227 well first of all let me say 2564 01:18:58,211 --> 01:18:58,461 that there have been 2565 01:19:02,011 --> 01:19:02,261 certainly a prediction market 2566 01:19:04,011 --> 01:19:04,261 contracts that have gone on in 2567 01:19:06,011 --> 01:19:06,261 the state of Nevada and it has 2568 01:19:09,744 --> 01:19:09,994 been a herculean task and a a 2569 01:19:11,511 --> 01:19:11,761 strong test coordinated with the 2570 01:19:12,277 --> 01:19:12,527 support of governor Lombardo and 2571 01:19:14,277 --> 01:19:14,527 the attorney general's office to 2572 01:19:16,277 --> 01:19:16,527 support the Nevada Gaming 2573 01:19:18,011 --> 01:19:18,261 Control Board to do what we can 2574 01:19:21,777 --> 01:19:22,027 to importantly restrict them 2575 01:19:22,411 --> 01:19:22,661 across the state that's where 2576 01:19:23,077 --> 01:19:23,327 our 2577 01:19:26,211 --> 01:19:26,461 focus has been at this point to 2578 01:19:28,211 --> 01:19:28,461 put a stop to it because again 2579 01:19:31,511 --> 01:19:31,761 these are not just contracts in 2580 01:19:32,211 --> 01:19:32,461 the abstract to your point 2581 01:19:34,244 --> 01:19:34,494 senator they hurt people right 2582 01:19:37,477 --> 01:19:37,727 and they hurt minors there's 2583 01:19:39,711 --> 01:19:39,961 there's evidence across the 2584 01:19:41,777 --> 01:19:42,027 country where people are 2585 01:19:43,511 --> 01:19:43,761 putting money into these 2586 01:19:44,077 --> 01:19:44,327 contracts as as was indicated 2587 01:19:47,511 --> 01:19:47,761 earlier to try and make the rent 2588 01:19:49,977 --> 01:19:50,227 instances where they were put 2589 01:19:51,744 --> 01:19:51,994 in as young people and they 2590 01:19:52,377 --> 01:19:52,627 shouldn't have been doing it 2591 01:19:55,744 --> 01:19:55,994 you know even sub eight in some 2592 01:19:58,244 --> 01:19:58,494 cases so I would say we are 2593 01:20:00,244 --> 01:20:00,494 at the phase of this where we 2594 01:20:02,011 --> 01:20:02,261 needed to conclude that and 2595 01:20:03,744 --> 01:20:03,994 that's right where we are right 2596 01:20:05,977 --> 01:20:06,227 now and so we're sort of at that 2597 01:20:07,744 --> 01:20:07,994 juncture because the first and 2598 01:20:10,244 --> 01:20:10,494 foremost it was to reach a 2599 01:20:11,777 --> 01:20:12,027 point where we could say that 2600 01:20:14,044 --> 01:20:14,294 all such activities' been 2601 01:20:17,511 --> 01:20:17,761 restricted in terms of looking 2602 01:20:19,744 --> 01:20:19,994 at victims you know certainly 2603 01:20:21,744 --> 01:20:21,994 that's something that it's 2604 01:20:22,277 --> 01:20:22,527 within our charge and is 2605 01:20:22,844 --> 01:20:23,094 important to us 2606 01:20:25,511 --> 01:20:25,761 of course to look at anybody 2607 01:20:26,244 --> 01:20:26,494 who's been a victim of what 2608 01:20:28,411 --> 01:20:28,661 would be a gaming crime but 2609 01:20:30,211 --> 01:20:30,461 right now I would say our focus 2610 01:20:31,511 --> 01:20:31,761 is 2611 01:20:34,277 --> 01:20:34,527 restricting the effectively 2612 01:20:36,011 --> 01:20:36,261 restricting the activity which 2613 01:20:37,744 --> 01:20:37,994 we've done and we are awaiting 2614 01:20:39,977 --> 01:20:40,227 further the court ruling and 2615 01:20:41,744 --> 01:20:41,994 this is I can say to you a very 2616 01:20:44,044 --> 01:20:44,294 dynamic situation, right? we 2617 01:20:45,511 --> 01:20:45,761 could be sitting here today and 2618 01:20:47,511 --> 01:20:47,761 then a week from now we could 2619 01:20:48,111 --> 01:20:48,361 have more developments so I 2620 01:20:50,011 --> 01:20:50,261 would say we are still in phase 2621 01:20:52,077 --> 01:20:52,327 one which is focusing strictly 2622 01:20:52,777 --> 01:20:53,027 on 2623 01:20:55,477 --> 01:20:55,727 limiting and fully 2624 01:20:56,211 --> 01:20:56,461 restricting the activities in 2625 01:20:56,877 --> 01:20:57,127 the state and that's what we've 2626 01:20:57,577 --> 01:20:57,827 done. 2627 01:21:00,077 --> 01:21:00,327 and sheriff I might follow up 2628 01:21:03,877 --> 01:21:04,127 the so thank you for that 2629 01:21:06,011 --> 01:21:06,261 I think the question that I have 2630 01:21:09,511 --> 01:21:09,761 is more so as a followup. 2631 01:21:10,244 --> 01:21:10,494 obviouslybviously all of us are 2632 01:21:11,977 --> 01:21:12,227 watching what the federal 2633 01:21:13,744 --> 01:21:13,994 courts do in terms of their 2634 01:21:15,477 --> 01:21:15,727 response at some point in near 2635 01:21:16,444 --> 01:21:16,694 distant future we will know 2636 01:21:19,511 --> 01:21:19,761 what that answer is. My main 2637 01:21:20,211 --> 01:21:20,461 concern and this is something 2638 01:21:23,511 --> 01:21:23,761 that we can talk off offline is 2639 01:21:25,744 --> 01:21:25,994 one when that decision makes 2640 01:21:26,344 --> 01:21:26,594 when when that decision is made 2641 01:21:28,011 --> 01:21:28,261 in terms of what the regulatory 2642 01:21:29,544 --> 01:21:29,794 standpoint will be for the 2643 01:21:30,111 --> 01:21:30,361 states versus the federal 2644 01:21:31,977 --> 01:21:32,227 government and so forth is I 2645 01:21:33,511 --> 01:21:33,761 want the I want to preserve the 2646 01:21:34,244 --> 01:21:34,494 ability for the for you all to 2647 01:21:34,911 --> 01:21:35,161 be able 2648 01:21:36,011 --> 01:21:36,261 to look at from the enforcement 2649 01:21:38,011 --> 01:21:38,261 of being able to 2650 01:21:39,744 --> 01:21:39,994 retroactively identify if there 2651 01:21:41,477 --> 01:21:41,727 were any potential victims 2652 01:21:42,244 --> 01:21:42,494 whether under age or someone 2653 01:21:45,477 --> 01:21:45,727 that made a wager and there 2654 01:21:46,477 --> 01:21:46,727 was insider trading collected 2655 01:21:48,011 --> 01:21:48,261 to it right whatever the 2656 01:21:49,744 --> 01:21:49,994 protocols that you established 2657 01:21:50,611 --> 01:21:50,861 but number two 2658 01:21:53,977 --> 01:21:54,227 I am very concerned that this is 2659 01:21:56,211 --> 01:21:56,461 going to be a proliferation of 2660 01:21:57,744 --> 01:21:57,994 the gray market that other 2661 01:21:59,711 --> 01:21:59,961 copycats are gonna come and try 2662 01:22:01,777 --> 01:22:02,027 to attempt the same and so what 2663 01:22:02,444 --> 01:22:02,694 I'm scared of and perhaps 2664 01:22:06,011 --> 01:22:06,261 just to there 2665 01:22:08,244 --> 01:22:08,494 there's a regulatory standpoint 2666 01:22:10,111 --> 01:22:10,361 that I think we I would love 2667 01:22:12,011 --> 01:22:12,261 your feedback on on 2668 01:22:14,044 --> 01:22:14,294 technologies evolving people 2669 01:22:15,744 --> 01:22:15,994 have access to VPns their 2670 01:22:17,744 --> 01:22:17,994 circumnavigating geo fences 2671 01:22:20,511 --> 01:22:20,761 umalhi is still I received the 2672 01:22:23,511 --> 01:22:23,761 advertisements everyday for 2673 01:22:26,311 --> 01:22:26,561 my age group right of of like 2674 01:22:28,011 --> 01:22:28,261 I their advertisements are on my 2675 01:22:30,277 --> 01:22:30,527 social media and so even 2676 01:22:31,777 --> 01:22:32,027 though they're not legal in our 2677 01:22:32,477 --> 01:22:32,727 state and they still have the 2678 01:22:33,544 --> 01:22:33,794 ability to practice there's 2679 01:22:34,077 --> 01:22:34,327 still clearly marketing towards 2680 01:22:34,777 --> 01:22:35,027 consumers in our 2681 01:22:37,744 --> 01:22:37,994 state and so my point being 2682 01:22:39,544 --> 01:22:39,794 is it sounds like even if there 2683 01:22:40,277 --> 01:22:40,527 is this court decision to be 2684 01:22:41,744 --> 01:22:41,994 made there's still some things 2685 01:22:42,377 --> 01:22:42,627 that we have to look at from the 2686 01:22:44,277 --> 01:22:44,527 regulatory standpoint so if 2687 01:22:45,744 --> 01:22:45,994 there's ideas that you may have 2688 01:22:47,477 --> 01:22:47,727 on how to clamp it down. I mean 2689 01:22:48,244 --> 01:22:48,494 that certainly and to increase 2690 01:22:49,744 --> 01:22:49,994 reinforcement I think that would 2691 01:22:50,444 --> 01:22:50,694 be something that we should talk 2692 01:22:51,744 --> 01:22:51,994 about but I don't know if you 2693 01:22:52,377 --> 01:22:52,627 have any response to that. I do 2694 01:22:54,011 --> 01:22:54,261 well let me just say a few 2695 01:22:55,511 --> 01:22:55,761 things because obviously all 2696 01:22:57,744 --> 01:22:57,994 this is happening at once now 2697 01:22:59,511 --> 01:22:59,761 rest assured we are 2698 01:22:59,944 --> 01:23:00,194 extraordinarily 2699 01:23:02,244 --> 01:23:02,494 aggressive at the gaming control 2700 01:23:05,511 --> 01:23:05,761 board around using our 2701 01:23:07,777 --> 01:23:08,027 enforcement resources to make 2702 01:23:08,344 --> 01:23:08,594 sure that there's no further 2703 01:23:08,911 --> 01:23:09,161 proliferation 2704 01:23:11,744 --> 01:23:11,994 in the state of Nevada again 2705 01:23:13,511 --> 01:23:13,761 importantly we needed to say 2706 01:23:15,511 --> 01:23:15,761 that we have addressed all of 2707 01:23:17,744 --> 01:23:17,994 the known actors but on any 2708 01:23:18,444 --> 01:23:18,694 given day without obviously 2709 01:23:20,011 --> 01:23:20,261 going into the details of our 2710 01:23:22,011 --> 01:23:22,261 investigative approach and 2711 01:23:23,511 --> 01:23:23,761 investigative technique you're 2712 01:23:24,211 --> 01:23:24,461 absolutely right there are other 2713 01:23:25,977 --> 01:23:26,227 actors that pop up who say we're 2714 01:23:28,211 --> 01:23:28,461 going to offer a statewide or a 2715 01:23:31,511 --> 01:23:31,761 nationwidedCM and we are 2716 01:23:33,511 --> 01:23:33,761 constantly vigilant to make sure 2717 01:23:35,777 --> 01:23:36,027 that they are not opening up in 2718 01:23:37,777 --> 01:23:38,027 Nevada and if they are we pursue 2719 01:23:38,444 --> 01:23:38,694 them aggressively right because 2720 01:23:39,144 --> 01:23:39,394 the idea 2721 01:23:42,011 --> 01:23:42,261 is that we're only as strong as 2722 01:23:43,744 --> 01:23:43,994 sort of our weakest link so to 2723 01:23:45,477 --> 01:23:45,727 speak and if we've addressed the 2724 01:23:46,211 --> 01:23:46,461 ones that we've addressed to 2725 01:23:47,944 --> 01:23:48,194 have make sure that they cannot 2726 01:23:50,011 --> 01:23:50,261 continue in the state we're 2727 01:23:51,511 --> 01:23:51,761 always looking to see if other 2728 01:23:53,744 --> 01:23:53,994 ones pop up and I will say this 2729 01:23:56,011 --> 01:23:56,261 most certainly my charge as 2730 01:23:57,511 --> 01:23:57,761 chairman of the game and control 2731 01:23:59,711 --> 01:23:59,961 boardard is to make sure that we 2732 01:24:01,677 --> 01:24:01,927 that any violations of the 2733 01:24:02,244 --> 01:24:02,494 the 2734 01:24:03,977 --> 01:24:04,227 the laws as it pertain to 2735 01:24:07,744 --> 01:24:07,994 gambling are prosecuted 2736 01:24:08,211 --> 01:24:08,461 pursued and prosecuted to the 2737 01:24:09,977 --> 01:24:10,227 fullest extent of the law and I 2738 01:24:11,744 --> 01:24:11,994 can say on a regular basis we 2739 01:24:13,511 --> 01:24:13,761 receive all sorts of information 2740 01:24:15,511 --> 01:24:15,761 in this space and other spaces 2741 01:24:17,511 --> 01:24:17,761 and we're tracking down every 2742 01:24:18,211 --> 01:24:18,461 single one of them right so what 2743 01:24:19,977 --> 01:24:20,227 I would say to you and to your 2744 01:24:21,744 --> 01:24:21,994 constituents or to whoever was 2745 01:24:24,011 --> 01:24:24,261 was interested if there is 2746 01:24:27,844 --> 01:24:28,094 evidence that something was 2747 01:24:28,411 --> 01:24:28,661 done that would appear to 2748 01:24:31,844 --> 01:24:32,094 potentially be a core unfair or 2749 01:24:32,477 --> 01:24:32,727 violates state law 2750 01:24:35,777 --> 01:24:36,027 or have anything to do with 2751 01:24:37,777 --> 01:24:38,027 underage gambling bring that to 2752 01:24:39,777 --> 01:24:40,027 us and we will pursue it we 2753 01:24:41,544 --> 01:24:41,794 track down every single lead, 2754 01:24:42,244 --> 01:24:42,494 every single thing that comes 2755 01:24:44,011 --> 01:24:44,261 across our desk so on one hand 2756 01:24:45,744 --> 01:24:45,994 we're stemming the tide and 2757 01:24:47,511 --> 01:24:47,761 we're making sure that you know 2758 01:24:49,511 --> 01:24:49,761 there are no new actorsi too see 2759 01:24:51,511 --> 01:24:51,761 all the ads and all the the 2760 01:24:52,111 --> 01:24:52,361 pronouncements of the newer 2761 01:24:53,511 --> 01:24:53,761 companies that come out and say 2762 01:24:55,511 --> 01:24:55,761 hey we're going to go fi0 states 2763 01:24:57,511 --> 01:24:57,761 and we make sure that that's not 2764 01:24:59,511 --> 01:24:59,761 true that no matter what that 2765 01:25:00,111 --> 01:25:00,361 we're going to protect Nevada 2766 01:25:01,877 --> 01:25:02,127 and make sure that the new 2767 01:25:02,444 --> 01:25:02,694 new a 2768 01:25:04,244 --> 01:25:04,494 ctor s likepollyarkin and Cal 2769 01:25:05,744 --> 01:25:05,994 she that there won't be new ones 2770 01:25:07,744 --> 01:25:07,994 that we've we've we've blocked 2771 01:25:09,511 --> 01:25:09,761 them and if they haven't then 2772 01:25:10,077 --> 01:25:10,327 we've been very legally 2773 01:25:11,511 --> 01:25:11,761 aggressive we've perhaps been 2774 01:25:13,744 --> 01:25:13,994 one of the most aggressively 2775 01:25:15,711 --> 01:25:15,961 legal states in the country in 2776 01:25:17,477 --> 01:25:17,727 terms of our our legal posture 2777 01:25:19,744 --> 01:25:19,994 and then if there is evidence of 2778 01:25:20,577 --> 01:25:20,827 of of something to do with 2779 01:25:26,077 --> 01:25:26,327 a crime or something that is a 2780 01:25:27,977 --> 01:25:28,227 violation of the nevada Gaming 2781 01:25:29,977 --> 01:25:30,227 Control Act we look into it so 2782 01:25:31,544 --> 01:25:31,794 let us know and obviously this 2783 01:25:33,511 --> 01:25:33,761 is going to continue as this all 2784 01:25:35,511 --> 01:25:35,761 becomes clearer but but as a but 2785 01:25:38,244 --> 01:25:38,494 as a cornerstone we we need to 2786 01:25:40,011 --> 01:25:40,261 keep going in court right to 2787 01:25:40,611 --> 01:25:40,861 make sure that you know 2788 01:25:44,277 --> 01:25:44,527 that are the rights are are 2789 01:25:45,644 --> 01:25:45,894 protected and that the state of 2790 01:25:46,377 --> 01:25:46,627 Nevada's protected properly 2791 01:25:51,811 --> 01:25:52,061 assemblywoman anderson 2792 01:25:55,811 --> 01:25:56,061 thank you so much for the 2793 01:25:56,311 --> 01:25:56,561 presentation and for the work 2794 01:25:58,177 --> 01:25:58,427 you guys do from the whole 2795 01:25:58,744 --> 01:25:58,994 gaming board. 2796 01:26:01,744 --> 01:26:01,994 I'm an alternate on this 2797 01:26:03,511 --> 01:26:03,761 committee so I have not done as 2798 01:26:05,511 --> 01:26:05,761 much homework as I should have 2799 01:26:06,244 --> 01:26:06,494 to prepare for this, so I have 2800 01:26:08,211 --> 01:26:08,461 numerous questions but I 2801 01:26:09,944 --> 01:26:10,194 think I'll start off first with 2802 01:26:12,177 --> 01:26:12,427 the actual item right now that 2803 01:26:13,744 --> 01:26:13,994 seems to me most concerning, 2804 01:26:15,744 --> 01:26:15,994 which has nothing to do with you 2805 01:26:16,444 --> 01:26:16,694 that's the commodities futures 2806 01:26:17,144 --> 01:26:17,394 trading commission. 2807 01:26:20,311 --> 01:26:20,561 from what it sounds like there 2808 01:26:21,011 --> 01:26:21,261 are 2809 01:26:23,744 --> 01:26:23,994 there's legislation that they 2810 01:26:25,711 --> 01:26:25,961 are forwarding and it's supposed 2811 01:26:27,477 --> 01:26:27,727 to have5 commission 2812 01:26:28,444 --> 01:26:28,694 commissioners is it accurate 2813 01:26:29,744 --> 01:26:29,994 that there's only one at this 2814 01:26:31,744 --> 01:26:31,994 time can you dig into that a 2815 01:26:33,744 --> 01:26:33,994 little bit more. Yeah, at this 2816 01:26:35,477 --> 01:26:35,727 time it's absolutely accurate 2817 01:26:37,977 --> 01:26:38,227 that there is one chairman of 2818 01:26:40,411 --> 01:26:40,661 the CFTC there is a 2819 01:26:42,011 --> 01:26:42,261 designation or supposed 2820 01:26:43,544 --> 01:26:43,794 designation for five 2821 01:26:45,511 --> 01:26:45,761 commissioners but there is only 2822 01:26:47,744 --> 01:26:47,994 one and there has been as a 2823 01:26:49,844 --> 01:26:50,094 factual matter an ongoing 2824 01:26:50,411 --> 01:26:50,661 rulemaking process 2825 01:26:53,477 --> 01:26:53,727 that he has moved forward with 2826 01:26:54,444 --> 01:26:54,694 and you know there's 2827 01:26:56,177 --> 01:26:56,427 different views about the 2828 01:26:57,711 --> 01:26:57,961 legality of that the 2829 01:26:59,511 --> 01:26:59,761 appropriateness of all of that 2830 01:27:00,177 --> 01:27:00,427 but that is in fact the case 2831 01:27:02,011 --> 01:27:02,261 that he's moving forward with a 2832 01:27:05,711 --> 01:27:05,961 a rulemaking that by all 2833 01:27:08,211 --> 01:27:08,461 accounts is very very 2834 01:27:11,511 --> 01:27:11,761 supportive of the positions of 2835 01:27:12,177 --> 01:27:12,427 these prediction market 2836 01:27:13,477 --> 01:27:13,727 companies who seek to offer 2837 01:27:15,744 --> 01:27:15,994 sports prediction contracts and 2838 01:27:17,844 --> 01:27:18,094 again fundamentally that can 2839 01:27:20,244 --> 01:27:20,494 that proceeds as it proceeds and 2840 01:27:21,977 --> 01:27:22,227 we in Nevada can only can 2841 01:27:23,944 --> 01:27:24,194 control what we can control but 2842 01:27:25,944 --> 01:27:26,194 the reality is is that it's it's 2843 01:27:29,511 --> 01:27:29,761 sports betting the outcome of 2844 01:27:31,977 --> 01:27:32,227 the the nicks and the Pacers is 2845 01:27:33,977 --> 01:27:34,227 not an investment it's an enter 2846 01:27:34,677 --> 01:27:34,927 it's a piece of entertainment 2847 01:27:40,177 --> 01:27:40,427 and we have regulated 2848 01:27:43,511 --> 01:27:43,761 this space successfully you 2849 01:27:44,211 --> 01:27:44,461 know in some form or fashion for 2850 01:27:44,911 --> 01:27:45,161 over70 years 2851 01:27:47,977 --> 01:27:48,227 and the other thing that I'll 2852 01:27:49,877 --> 01:27:50,127 say too that I said many times 2853 01:27:50,544 --> 01:27:50,794 publicly is 2854 01:27:53,911 --> 01:27:54,161 regulation is a key cornerstone 2855 01:27:57,511 --> 01:27:57,761 to the ability of the industry 2856 01:27:58,177 --> 01:27:58,427 to thrive because they know they 2857 01:28:00,177 --> 01:28:00,427 have certainty they know they 2858 01:28:01,977 --> 01:28:02,227 have fairness all of the things 2859 01:28:04,211 --> 01:28:04,461 that you need as a foundational 2860 01:28:07,744 --> 01:28:07,994 element to support this great 2861 01:28:10,177 --> 01:28:10,427 gaming industry of ours and 2862 01:28:12,277 --> 01:28:12,527 when what we see is what I have 2863 01:28:15,044 --> 01:28:15,294 come to call regulation by tweet 2864 01:28:17,977 --> 01:28:18,227 where there are 2865 01:28:19,977 --> 01:28:20,227 pronouncements on social media 2866 01:28:22,244 --> 01:28:22,494 about today we care about this 2867 01:28:24,011 --> 01:28:24,261 and today we care about minors 2868 01:28:25,977 --> 01:28:26,227 gambling and today we care about 2869 01:28:27,744 --> 01:28:27,994 know your customer. well these 2870 01:28:28,344 --> 01:28:28,594 are things that we've been 2871 01:28:30,444 --> 01:28:30,694 caring about and have worked on 2872 01:28:31,977 --> 01:28:32,227 and have knowledge and have 2873 01:28:33,977 --> 01:28:34,227 successfully regulated for more 2874 01:28:36,211 --> 01:28:36,461 than you know se decades right? 2875 01:28:40,244 --> 01:28:40,494 So that is just not enough 2876 01:28:41,977 --> 01:28:42,227 and then as Mr York pointed out 2877 01:28:43,811 --> 01:28:44,061 just the staffing levels that 2878 01:28:44,477 --> 01:28:44,727 you see at the CFTc they just 2879 01:28:45,177 --> 01:28:45,427 don't 2880 01:28:48,511 --> 01:28:48,761 have the people or the expertise 2881 01:28:49,511 --> 01:28:49,761 and think that that you know 2882 01:28:51,511 --> 01:28:51,761 they say they're working on it 2883 01:28:53,511 --> 01:28:53,761 but that's it's a major concern 2884 01:28:55,744 --> 01:28:55,994 and from our perspective you can 2885 01:28:59,711 --> 01:28:59,961 be consumer friendly which as 2886 01:29:01,511 --> 01:29:01,761 regulators we are but also 2887 01:29:02,211 --> 01:29:02,461 engage in consumer protection 2888 01:29:05,511 --> 01:29:05,761 and so the idea is that you know 2889 01:29:07,477 --> 01:29:07,727 you have to have all of these 2890 01:29:09,477 --> 01:29:09,727 things which combine to make for 2891 01:29:11,977 --> 01:29:12,227 a robust regulatory system which 2892 01:29:13,777 --> 01:29:14,027 some have expressed significant 2893 01:29:14,477 --> 01:29:14,727 concern that the CFc currently 2894 01:29:15,144 --> 01:29:15,394 doesn't offer 2895 01:29:17,811 --> 01:29:18,061 with their one commissioner and 2896 01:29:18,511 --> 01:29:18,761 their very limited staff 2897 01:29:23,744 --> 01:29:23,994 Thank you. I've got so many 2898 01:29:24,544 --> 01:29:24,794 questions but I will not ask all 2899 01:29:26,011 --> 01:29:26,261 of them right now but I do have 2900 01:29:29,511 --> 01:29:29,761 two more if I may does that 2901 01:29:31,511 --> 01:29:31,761 individual who is currently the 2902 01:29:33,777 --> 01:29:34,027 only employ the only individual 2903 01:29:35,777 --> 01:29:36,027 on the board and or other 2904 01:29:37,744 --> 01:29:37,994 employees of the commission they 2905 01:29:40,244 --> 01:29:40,494 have to file an ethics item 2906 01:29:42,277 --> 01:29:42,527 as to if they're currently 2907 01:29:44,244 --> 01:29:44,494 working with any organizations 2908 01:29:46,044 --> 01:29:46,294 which I believe the the Nevada 2909 01:29:48,011 --> 01:29:48,261 Gamingtrol board has had to do 2910 01:29:49,544 --> 01:29:49,794 like if you have any sort of 2911 01:29:50,111 --> 01:29:50,361 other relationships 2912 01:29:53,844 --> 01:29:54,094 with anything which I don't 2913 01:29:54,377 --> 01:29:54,627 think anybody does at this time 2914 01:29:55,077 --> 01:29:55,327 but 2915 01:29:58,011 --> 01:29:58,261 does the commodities' future 2916 01:30:00,011 --> 01:30:00,261 do they have to file anything to 2917 01:30:01,744 --> 01:30:01,994 say that they've worked in this 2918 01:30:03,511 --> 01:30:03,761 area or who they are currently 2919 01:30:04,711 --> 01:30:04,961 working with or if they have 2920 01:30:05,311 --> 01:30:05,561 stock in any of these companies. 2921 01:30:08,244 --> 01:30:08,494 well what I'll say is as you 2922 01:30:11,511 --> 01:30:11,761 pointed out quite correctly as a 2923 01:30:12,244 --> 01:30:12,494 state official myself and other 2924 01:30:14,011 --> 01:30:14,261 state officials we have a very 2925 01:30:16,511 --> 01:30:16,761 extensive ethics filing 2926 01:30:18,277 --> 01:30:18,527 that's required even more so in 2927 01:30:20,311 --> 01:30:20,561 terms of from the perspective of 2928 01:30:21,777 --> 01:30:22,027 the gaming control board in 2929 01:30:23,977 --> 01:30:24,227 terms of holding of gaming 2930 01:30:26,311 --> 01:30:26,561 stocks and you know or the 2931 01:30:28,011 --> 01:30:28,261 inability to do that in my 2932 01:30:29,744 --> 01:30:29,994 position the inability to 2933 01:30:32,011 --> 01:30:32,261 wager all those things right? I 2934 01:30:34,277 --> 01:30:34,527 cannot speak with any type of 2935 01:30:34,977 --> 01:30:35,227 authority as to what the ethics 2936 01:30:38,011 --> 01:30:38,261 requirements are for the CFTc 2937 01:30:42,244 --> 01:30:42,494 happy to as a point of of of 2938 01:30:44,244 --> 01:30:44,494 order or fact get back to you 2939 01:30:46,244 --> 01:30:46,494 on that but from my perspective 2940 01:30:47,777 --> 01:30:48,027 I could not speak with authority 2941 01:30:49,511 --> 01:30:49,761 on that but I can't say that 2942 01:30:51,511 --> 01:30:51,761 it's an important part of what 2943 01:30:53,544 --> 01:30:53,794 we do to maintain our 2944 01:30:55,511 --> 01:30:55,761 independence in this process and 2945 01:30:56,277 --> 01:30:56,527 make sure we have all of the 2946 01:30:58,311 --> 01:30:58,561 ethical boxes checked in 2947 01:30:59,511 --> 01:30:59,761 accordance with state law and 2948 01:31:01,777 --> 01:31:02,027 even frankly go above and beyond 2949 01:31:03,777 --> 01:31:04,027 that to make sure that the 2950 01:31:04,644 --> 01:31:04,894 public can be confident that the 2951 01:31:05,311 --> 01:31:05,561 decision 2952 01:31:08,277 --> 01:31:08,527 s that we make in regulating the 2953 01:31:10,277 --> 01:31:10,527 industry are done in such a way 2954 01:31:12,244 --> 01:31:12,494 that they're evenhanded and fair 2955 01:31:14,111 --> 01:31:14,361 and are not subject to undue 2956 01:31:14,777 --> 01:31:15,027 influence. 2957 01:31:17,744 --> 01:31:17,994 thank you so much and thank you 2958 01:31:19,511 --> 01:31:19,761 for making that very clear about 2959 01:31:21,744 --> 01:31:21,994 the Nevada Gaming Commission and 2960 01:31:22,477 --> 01:31:22,727 the ethics that in a high 2961 01:31:24,077 --> 01:31:24,327 standard that you all have to 2962 01:31:25,777 --> 01:31:26,027 follow both the control board 2963 01:31:26,411 --> 01:31:26,661 and the commission at both 2964 01:31:28,311 --> 01:31:28,561 levels we are very high 2965 01:31:30,011 --> 01:31:30,261 standards in that way yes thank 2966 01:31:32,277 --> 01:31:32,527 you and my last question if I 2967 01:31:34,277 --> 01:31:34,527 may chair again I do I see the 2968 01:31:36,011 --> 01:31:36,261 commercials that's about the 2969 01:31:37,744 --> 01:31:37,994 extent of my knowledge of these 2970 01:31:39,977 --> 01:31:40,227 of these prediction markets are 2971 01:31:42,011 --> 01:31:42,261 these prediction markets usually 2972 01:31:44,044 --> 01:31:44,294 owned by a corporation that is 2973 01:31:44,744 --> 01:31:44,994 that has stock or is it 2974 01:31:49,477 --> 01:31:49,727 usually privately owned or how 2975 01:31:50,244 --> 01:31:50,494 exact where where are they 2976 01:31:52,011 --> 01:31:52,261 licensed through is it done 2977 01:31:53,811 --> 01:31:54,061 through a state I I'm just I'm 2978 01:31:56,277 --> 01:31:56,527 confused as to how there's 2979 01:31:58,244 --> 01:31:58,494 actually the corporation 2980 01:32:00,111 --> 01:32:00,361 licenger and taxation. 2981 01:32:03,877 --> 01:32:04,127 as well that goes through that 2982 01:32:04,544 --> 01:32:04,794 so 2983 01:32:07,777 --> 01:32:08,027 they they many of them are 2984 01:32:09,511 --> 01:32:09,761 are private companies which 2985 01:32:11,977 --> 01:32:12,227 obviously reduces the amount 2986 01:32:15,477 --> 01:32:15,727 of you know visibility into 2987 01:32:16,111 --> 01:32:16,361 their conduct and their 2988 01:32:16,677 --> 01:32:16,927 activities 2989 01:32:19,744 --> 01:32:19,994 so many of them them are private 2990 01:32:20,477 --> 01:32:20,727 I suppose they could be public 2991 01:32:23,511 --> 01:32:23,761 as well and they are 2992 01:32:26,011 --> 01:32:26,261 ostensibly regulated by the 2993 01:32:28,244 --> 01:32:28,494 CFTc which again from our 2994 01:32:31,744 --> 01:32:31,994 perspective makes sense and for 2995 01:32:32,477 --> 01:32:32,727 years and years this 2996 01:32:34,011 --> 01:32:34,261 conversation didn't have to 2997 01:32:35,744 --> 01:32:35,994 happen because everybody knew 2998 01:32:37,744 --> 01:32:37,994 and sort of acted appropriately 2999 01:32:39,711 --> 01:32:39,961 in terms of what the lines were 3000 01:32:41,744 --> 01:32:41,994 economic hedges through 3001 01:32:43,744 --> 01:32:43,994 things like interest rates 3002 01:32:45,877 --> 01:32:46,127 and soybean prices and and corn 3003 01:32:46,544 --> 01:32:46,794 and those sorts of things that's 3004 01:32:47,244 --> 01:32:47,494 what 3005 01:32:49,711 --> 01:32:49,961 this has been for many years 3006 01:32:50,444 --> 01:32:50,694 until all of us and and even the 3007 01:32:52,211 --> 01:32:52,461 the CFTc had said so and even 3008 01:32:54,244 --> 01:32:54,494 Calci had said so until all of a 3009 01:32:55,744 --> 01:32:55,994 sudden within the last eight 3010 01:32:56,377 --> 01:32:56,627 months they said well no 3011 01:32:59,511 --> 01:32:59,761 and there's absolutely as I 3012 01:33:01,744 --> 01:33:01,994 indicated in my testimony no 3013 01:33:03,511 --> 01:33:03,761 evidence to suggest that 3014 01:33:05,511 --> 01:33:05,761 Congress spoke plainly on this 3015 01:33:07,744 --> 01:33:07,994 there's there's a saying that 3016 01:33:08,377 --> 01:33:08,627 you know you can't hide an 3017 01:33:10,277 --> 01:33:10,527 elephant in a mouse hole right 3018 01:33:12,277 --> 01:33:12,527 and so that the case here is 3019 01:33:14,044 --> 01:33:14,294 that there's no evidence that 3020 01:33:14,644 --> 01:33:14,894 the federal government on any 3021 01:33:15,344 --> 01:33:15,594 level 3022 01:33:18,211 --> 01:33:18,461 would have allowed them to take 3023 01:33:21,744 --> 01:33:21,994 these contracts for sports 3024 01:33:23,977 --> 01:33:24,227 prediction right? if anything 3025 01:33:25,977 --> 01:33:26,227 what Murphy the case Murphy I 3026 01:33:27,511 --> 01:33:27,761 cited shows it's quite the 3027 01:33:29,744 --> 01:33:29,994 opposite and so we feel really 3028 01:33:31,477 --> 01:33:31,727 strongly about our legal opinion 3029 01:33:32,211 --> 01:33:32,461 our legal position. 3030 01:33:33,777 --> 01:33:34,027 obviouslybviously that's in the 3031 01:33:35,777 --> 01:33:36,027 courts and to Senator Donate's 3032 01:33:37,511 --> 01:33:37,761 point you know when I took the 3033 01:33:38,177 --> 01:33:38,427 job I 3034 01:33:41,744 --> 01:33:41,994 there's an element to this 3035 01:33:43,511 --> 01:33:43,761 obviously I can't talk about 3036 01:33:44,111 --> 01:33:44,361 because we have multiple 3037 01:33:45,777 --> 01:33:46,027 litigations going at once. how 3038 01:33:48,144 --> 01:33:48,394 I do need to have the 3039 01:33:48,644 --> 01:33:48,894 discussion about 3040 01:33:51,777 --> 01:33:52,027 public policy and I do need to 3041 01:33:53,744 --> 01:33:53,994 have the general discussion of 3042 01:33:55,477 --> 01:33:55,727 why this is so wrong and why 3043 01:33:56,444 --> 01:33:56,694 this can't stand and why it's an 3044 01:33:58,211 --> 01:33:58,461 existential threat. I have to do 3045 01:34:01,511 --> 01:34:01,761 that in my job and can't 3046 01:34:02,211 --> 01:34:02,461 just hide behind this notion 3047 01:34:03,977 --> 01:34:04,227 that well we're in litigation I 3048 01:34:05,477 --> 01:34:05,727 can't talk about it there are 3049 01:34:06,177 --> 01:34:06,427 certain elements of this that I 3050 01:34:08,011 --> 01:34:08,261 can talk about and I have talked 3051 01:34:08,711 --> 01:34:08,961 about it and I know we'll 3052 01:34:09,777 --> 01:34:10,027 continue to talk about it and to 3053 01:34:11,777 --> 01:34:12,027 your earlier question assembly 3054 01:34:14,011 --> 01:34:14,261 member Anderson around education 3055 01:34:16,011 --> 01:34:16,261 very important that we 3056 01:34:18,377 --> 01:34:18,627 educate the the the state 3057 01:34:18,944 --> 01:34:19,194 legislature other state legis 3058 01:34:21,744 --> 01:34:21,994 la ture s the public so they 3059 01:34:23,511 --> 01:34:23,761 understand the dangers of all of 3060 01:34:25,744 --> 01:34:25,994 this it isn't just as harmless 3061 01:34:28,011 --> 01:34:28,261 fun idea of hey you can now do 3062 01:34:30,011 --> 01:34:30,261 sports betting in5 state this is 3063 01:34:33,744 --> 01:34:33,994 hurting people this is taking 3064 01:34:35,711 --> 01:34:35,961 students who otherwise would 3065 01:34:36,377 --> 01:34:36,627 spend money on their tuition 3066 01:34:39,877 --> 01:34:40,127 and this is having them apply 3067 01:34:40,544 --> 01:34:40,794 that to to betting 3068 01:34:43,711 --> 01:34:43,961 on on a on an exchange and 3069 01:34:45,977 --> 01:34:46,227 you know I will say this back to 3070 01:34:48,011 --> 01:34:48,261 your question senator donate 3071 01:34:50,211 --> 01:34:50,461 you know this is a story that 3072 01:34:50,811 --> 01:34:51,061 has many more chapters to 3073 01:34:51,377 --> 01:34:51,627 unfold. 3074 01:34:55,511 --> 01:34:55,761 again right now we're focused on 3075 01:34:57,711 --> 01:34:57,961 where I can proudly sit before 3076 01:34:58,411 --> 01:34:58,661 you and say that we have 3077 01:35:00,211 --> 01:35:00,461 restricted this conduct in the 3078 01:35:02,011 --> 01:35:02,261 state of nevada and if new 3079 01:35:03,744 --> 01:35:03,994 actors come along we're gonna 3080 01:35:04,444 --> 01:35:04,694 take them on to game of whack a 3081 01:35:06,011 --> 01:35:06,261 mole in a way right because they 3082 01:35:07,511 --> 01:35:07,761 can come from any which 3083 01:35:09,744 --> 01:35:09,994 direction but there are many 3084 01:35:11,511 --> 01:35:11,761 more chapters in here one of 3085 01:35:13,511 --> 01:35:13,761 which you know may include the 3086 01:35:15,511 --> 01:35:15,761 things that you mentioned 3087 01:35:16,477 --> 01:35:16,727 disgorgement other things that 3088 01:35:17,744 --> 01:35:17,994 could potentially happen down 3089 01:35:19,744 --> 01:35:19,994 the road right so a lot of 3090 01:35:21,711 --> 01:35:21,961 chapters there were still in 3091 01:35:22,377 --> 01:35:22,627 what I would consider to be the 3092 01:35:23,044 --> 01:35:23,294 early 3093 01:35:23,777 --> 01:35:24,027 stage of this thing but 3094 01:35:27,977 --> 01:35:28,227 conclusively when the patrons 3095 01:35:31,511 --> 01:35:31,761 go to wager at the first week of 3096 01:35:32,211 --> 01:35:32,461 the NFl season which is 3097 01:35:33,977 --> 01:35:34,227 historically one of the largest 3098 01:35:38,011 --> 01:35:38,261 handle weekends of the the 3099 01:35:40,011 --> 01:35:40,261 year they will do so with 3100 01:35:42,244 --> 01:35:42,494 confidence and and with the 3101 01:35:44,344 --> 01:35:44,594 inability to do these prediction 3102 01:35:45,044 --> 01:35:45,294 contracts for the reasons stated 3103 01:35:48,277 --> 01:35:48,527 so 3104 01:35:51,677 --> 01:35:51,927 thank you for that. So I will 3105 01:35:52,377 --> 01:35:52,627 ask the I guess 3106 01:35:54,511 --> 01:35:54,761 final two questions and close 3107 01:35:55,744 --> 01:35:55,994 out this presentation so the 3108 01:35:57,711 --> 01:35:57,961 first question it's fairly 3109 01:35:58,344 --> 01:35:58,594 simple. the second one is more 3110 01:36:00,277 --> 01:36:00,527 like a legal thought question 3111 01:36:02,244 --> 01:36:02,494 cause I'm just super curious but 3112 01:36:03,977 --> 01:36:04,227 it's between that second 3113 01:36:06,011 --> 01:36:06,261 question would be between you 3114 01:36:07,744 --> 01:36:07,994 and Mr Yorke. so the first 3115 01:36:10,277 --> 01:36:10,527 question is if if a if a current 3116 01:36:13,511 --> 01:36:13,761 corporation is currently in a 3117 01:36:14,277 --> 01:36:14,527 contract with one of these 3118 01:36:17,777 --> 01:36:18,027 actors right and making money 3119 01:36:18,377 --> 01:36:18,627 post the decision 3120 01:36:23,511 --> 01:36:23,761 what how how would that 3121 01:36:26,011 --> 01:36:26,261 information be shared how 3122 01:36:26,577 --> 01:36:26,827 would that information because 3123 01:36:29,977 --> 01:36:30,227 I don't wanna out anyone but I 3124 01:36:31,711 --> 01:36:31,961 literally had a conversation 3125 01:36:33,744 --> 01:36:33,994 like a week and a half ago where 3126 01:36:35,511 --> 01:36:35,761 there was a corporation that 3127 01:36:36,377 --> 01:36:36,627 currently has a contract with 3128 01:36:37,044 --> 01:36:37,294 Polymarket. 3129 01:36:39,744 --> 01:36:39,994 and they're currently doing 3130 01:36:41,511 --> 01:36:41,761 business and making revenue with 3131 01:36:43,711 --> 01:36:43,961 polymarket and I was just like 3132 01:36:45,511 --> 01:36:45,761 how is that possible right 3133 01:36:48,211 --> 01:36:48,461 because it it had been had been 3134 01:36:49,677 --> 01:36:49,927 for more than a year 3135 01:36:55,477 --> 01:36:55,727 Yes, and and I well let me just 3136 01:36:56,211 --> 01:36:56,461 say that senatorneal I I 3137 01:36:57,711 --> 01:36:57,961 certainly share those 3138 01:36:59,511 --> 01:36:59,761 frustrations and we in Nevada 3139 01:37:00,344 --> 01:37:00,594 have been very strong saying 3140 01:37:01,011 --> 01:37:01,261 that 3141 01:37:03,977 --> 01:37:04,227 to participate with those 3142 01:37:05,977 --> 01:37:06,227 companies and and and we we 3143 01:37:07,944 --> 01:37:08,194 regulate our licensees right and 3144 01:37:09,711 --> 01:37:09,961 to participate with those 3145 01:37:11,677 --> 01:37:11,927 companies renders one 3146 01:37:14,177 --> 01:37:14,427 incompatible to participate in 3147 01:37:15,711 --> 01:37:15,961 Nevada's gaming industry. we've 3148 01:37:17,711 --> 01:37:17,961 said that but there's only so 3149 01:37:19,711 --> 01:37:19,961 many things that we can control 3150 01:37:20,444 --> 01:37:20,694 it is frustrating to see 3151 01:37:24,244 --> 01:37:24,494 sports leagues sports teams 3152 01:37:27,477 --> 01:37:27,727 enter into these arrangements 3153 01:37:28,211 --> 01:37:28,461 these financial arrangements 3154 01:37:30,444 --> 01:37:30,694 they do so under the the color 3155 01:37:32,211 --> 01:37:32,461 of this pending litigation 3156 01:37:35,844 --> 01:37:36,094 which obviously we disagree with 3157 01:37:36,577 --> 01:37:36,827 that point of view 3158 01:37:39,744 --> 01:37:39,994 it's you know a 3159 01:37:40,244 --> 01:37:40,494 financiallyd driven decision 3160 01:37:42,211 --> 01:37:42,461 that of course I fully disagree 3161 01:37:44,111 --> 01:37:44,361 with and now you know 3162 01:37:47,477 --> 01:37:47,727 look it the matter is going 3163 01:37:49,511 --> 01:37:49,761 through the courts and you know 3164 01:37:50,244 --> 01:37:50,494 I would expect at some point 3165 01:37:51,977 --> 01:37:52,227 there'll be a reckoning related 3166 01:37:53,977 --> 01:37:54,227 to that but in terms of what we 3167 01:37:56,344 --> 01:37:56,594 can control now those things 3168 01:37:56,944 --> 01:37:57,194 happen and they 3169 01:38:01,477 --> 01:38:01,727 they hide behind high priced 3170 01:38:03,744 --> 01:38:03,994 legal opinions frankly now I'll 3171 01:38:05,977 --> 01:38:06,227 say this to you know you can you 3172 01:38:07,977 --> 01:38:08,227 know they get these high pressed 3173 01:38:10,244 --> 01:38:10,494 legal opinions but when you read 3174 01:38:12,044 --> 01:38:12,294 the penal codes of the states 3175 01:38:13,777 --> 01:38:14,027 that don't allow gambling or you 3176 01:38:15,744 --> 01:38:15,994 read our code which allows 3177 01:38:17,777 --> 01:38:18,027 gambling only under a licensed 3178 01:38:20,011 --> 01:38:20,261 circumstance those are the laws 3179 01:38:21,744 --> 01:38:21,994 so we have laws that must be 3180 01:38:22,511 --> 01:38:22,761 followed so I fully agree with 3181 01:38:24,244 --> 01:38:24,494 you. I share your frustration 3182 01:38:25,677 --> 01:38:25,927 but in many instances 3183 01:38:27,711 --> 01:38:27,961 entities within corporate 3184 01:38:31,511 --> 01:38:31,761 America are you know relying on 3185 01:38:32,244 --> 01:38:32,494 these these opinions and relying 3186 01:38:34,211 --> 01:38:34,461 on this uncertainty which I hope 3187 01:38:37,744 --> 01:38:37,994 and expect given the law that 3188 01:38:39,511 --> 01:38:39,761 will be will be settled here but 3189 01:38:40,211 --> 01:38:40,461 there's no more satisfying 3190 01:38:41,744 --> 01:38:41,994 answer than that at this stage 3191 01:38:43,711 --> 01:38:43,961 but it's a concern and we in 3192 01:38:45,711 --> 01:38:45,961 Nevada regulating our 3193 01:38:47,977 --> 01:38:48,227 licensees, making gaming safe 3194 01:38:49,744 --> 01:38:49,994 for the state of Nevada and the 3195 01:38:50,477 --> 01:38:50,727 patrons in the state of Nevada 3196 01:38:52,011 --> 01:38:52,261 we do all we can within our 3197 01:38:54,244 --> 01:38:54,494 borders there's other 3198 01:38:55,644 --> 01:38:55,894 discussions with other stateser 3199 01:38:58,311 --> 01:38:58,561 if asked my opinion nationwide I 3200 01:39:00,011 --> 01:39:00,261 will give it and have given it 3201 01:39:01,777 --> 01:39:02,027 but other states have different 3202 01:39:04,011 --> 01:39:04,261 pressures different approaches 3203 01:39:06,011 --> 01:39:06,261 and we do what we can to keep as 3204 01:39:07,977 --> 01:39:08,227 I say the state of Nevada the 3205 01:39:08,644 --> 01:39:08,894 streets are clean these 3206 01:39:09,211 --> 01:39:09,461 companies are out 3207 01:39:15,944 --> 01:39:16,194 thank you for that and so here's 3208 01:39:17,977 --> 01:39:18,227 here's more of the I guess legal 3209 01:39:19,977 --> 01:39:20,227 thought question so when you 3210 01:39:21,511 --> 01:39:21,761 were doing the presentation and 3211 01:39:24,177 --> 01:39:24,427 also Mr York basically a 3212 01:39:25,977 --> 01:39:26,227 couple of statements were made 3213 01:39:27,711 --> 01:39:27,961 the statement from you which is 3214 01:39:29,977 --> 01:39:30,227 you know it's pretty clear that 3215 01:39:33,744 --> 01:39:33,994 the state's govern gambling 3216 01:39:36,211 --> 01:39:36,461 right and so Congress has opened 3217 01:39:36,911 --> 01:39:37,161 that door 3218 01:39:40,211 --> 01:39:40,461 and then the second comment that 3219 01:39:41,977 --> 01:39:42,227 Mr. York had brought up which 3220 01:39:43,777 --> 01:39:44,027 was one of the examples I don't 3221 01:39:45,744 --> 01:39:45,994 know if it was Kentucky or 3222 01:39:49,711 --> 01:39:49,961 arizona who then was sued by 3223 01:39:52,211 --> 01:39:52,461 the CFTC right so then it made 3224 01:39:53,977 --> 01:39:54,227 me start asking the question 3225 01:39:56,211 --> 01:39:56,461 whether or not if the state 3226 01:39:59,977 --> 01:40:00,227 itself would sued or parties 3227 01:40:01,977 --> 01:40:02,227 because you know I started 3228 01:40:03,977 --> 01:40:04,227 thinking about two things, 3229 01:40:06,611 --> 01:40:06,861 right? The Murphy decision right 3230 01:40:07,244 --> 01:40:07,494 and what 3231 01:40:11,744 --> 01:40:11,994 was listed in alito's comments 3232 01:40:13,477 --> 01:40:13,727 around when he was laying out 3233 01:40:14,411 --> 01:40:14,661 pasta and how pastpa works and 3234 01:40:17,977 --> 01:40:18,227 and one of the like clear 3235 01:40:19,777 --> 01:40:20,027 statements that he had put in 3236 01:40:23,511 --> 01:40:23,761 the opinion was that the 3237 01:40:25,511 --> 01:40:25,761 constitution confers upon 3238 01:40:27,744 --> 01:40:27,994 Congress the power to regulate 3239 01:40:28,477 --> 01:40:28,727 individuals not states right? 3240 01:40:31,677 --> 01:40:31,927 and then I started to read 3241 01:40:35,977 --> 01:40:36,227 you know the chevron ruling 3242 01:40:37,944 --> 01:40:38,194 which basically was overturned 3243 01:40:41,944 --> 01:40:42,194 by loper right which then in 3244 01:40:45,711 --> 01:40:45,961 that decision they in loper 3245 01:40:46,244 --> 01:40:46,494 decision they said the court 3246 01:40:50,211 --> 01:40:50,461 held that when confronted 3247 01:40:50,777 --> 01:40:51,027 with statutory ambiguity. 3248 01:40:55,511 --> 01:40:55,761 a court should not defer to an 3249 01:40:57,711 --> 01:40:57,961 agency's interpretation but 3250 01:40:59,777 --> 01:41:00,027 should do the ordinary job of 3251 01:41:01,677 --> 01:41:01,927 interpreting statutes right 3252 01:41:04,244 --> 01:41:04,494 so when I was thinking about 3253 01:41:06,277 --> 01:41:06,527 those two pieces together right 3254 01:41:08,244 --> 01:41:08,494 there appears to be some kind of 3255 01:41:10,111 --> 01:41:10,361 reconciliation that needs to 3256 01:41:10,677 --> 01:41:10,927 happen 3257 01:41:13,944 --> 01:41:14,194 because I started thinking 3258 01:41:14,511 --> 01:41:14,761 about 3259 01:41:14,761 --> 01:41:15,011 the 3260 01:41:17,977 --> 01:41:18,227 comments that were made on 3261 01:41:21,511 --> 01:41:21,761 CFTC's rule right so I was I was 3262 01:41:24,211 --> 01:41:24,461 it I was I was provided a few 3263 01:41:26,211 --> 01:41:26,461 weeks back on what NRA's 3264 01:41:29,977 --> 01:41:30,227 comments were to seeFCFTc's 3265 01:41:31,977 --> 01:41:32,227 rules and the comments that were 3266 01:41:35,477 --> 01:41:35,727 made around 3267 01:41:37,477 --> 01:41:37,727 that I it would seem I don't 3268 01:41:38,444 --> 01:41:38,694 know if it would be ambiguity of 3269 01:41:39,677 --> 01:41:39,927 the rule or just plain out 3270 01:41:44,277 --> 01:41:44,527 ignoring reality of what they 3271 01:41:46,077 --> 01:41:46,327 should be really ruling on right 3272 01:41:49,977 --> 01:41:50,227 and so I started to wonder have 3273 01:41:51,711 --> 01:41:51,961 those arguments and you probably 3274 01:41:53,477 --> 01:41:53,727 can't even say that but have 3275 01:41:55,511 --> 01:41:55,761 those arguments been made about 3276 01:41:58,377 --> 01:41:58,627 whether or not the CFTC is 3277 01:41:58,944 --> 01:41:59,194 overstepping 3278 01:42:02,511 --> 01:42:02,761 now with the loper decision 3279 01:42:03,777 --> 01:42:04,027 right which pretty much 3280 01:42:05,777 --> 01:42:06,027 overruled Chevron. they no 3281 01:42:07,511 --> 01:42:07,761 longer in the position of of 3282 01:42:09,511 --> 01:42:09,761 having the power to just say you 3283 01:42:12,011 --> 01:42:12,261 know as an agency under this1984 3284 01:42:14,544 --> 01:42:14,794 decision I can therefore say xy 3285 01:42:17,977 --> 01:42:18,227 and z because pretty much it was 3286 01:42:20,077 --> 01:42:20,327 removed with the loafer decision 3287 01:42:20,744 --> 01:42:20,994 so 3288 01:42:24,244 --> 01:42:24,494 what what has there been any 3289 01:42:26,111 --> 01:42:26,361 conversation around that nuanced 3290 01:42:26,744 --> 01:42:26,994 point 3291 01:42:31,511 --> 01:42:31,761 around the CFTC's ruling and and 3292 01:42:33,744 --> 01:42:33,994 it's and reconciling what the 3293 01:42:35,944 --> 01:42:36,194 loper decision pretty much said 3294 01:42:38,077 --> 01:42:38,327 right? I mean that's what I want 3295 01:42:38,777 --> 01:42:39,027 to know 3296 01:42:40,144 --> 01:42:40,394 in a long way getting there 3297 01:42:43,811 --> 01:42:44,061 and then I'll probably pivot to 3298 01:42:44,511 --> 01:42:44,761 the pasta thing too. 3299 01:42:50,011 --> 01:42:50,261 well senator that to your 3300 01:42:51,744 --> 01:42:51,994 comments a moment ago I have to 3301 01:42:53,744 --> 01:42:53,994 be a little bit careful but what 3302 01:42:55,477 --> 01:42:55,727 I will say is you know the 3303 01:42:58,211 --> 01:42:58,461 state of Nevada the has 3304 01:43:00,311 --> 01:43:00,561 has been working with Mayorrown 3305 01:43:01,011 --> 01:43:01,261 law firm 3306 01:43:02,677 --> 01:43:02,927 and 3307 01:43:06,277 --> 01:43:06,527 obviously the NRA hasn't been 3308 01:43:09,511 --> 01:43:09,761 been put in the case as well and 3309 01:43:10,244 --> 01:43:10,494 they are represented bymcdonald 3310 01:43:13,977 --> 01:43:14,227 Carrano and we have so between 3311 01:43:16,211 --> 01:43:16,461 all of this in terms of Nevada's 3312 01:43:18,011 --> 01:43:18,261 interests and then the interests 3313 01:43:18,677 --> 01:43:18,927 of NRA 3314 01:43:23,511 --> 01:43:23,761 excellent counsel and I can 3315 01:43:25,744 --> 01:43:25,994 assure you that every single 3316 01:43:28,144 --> 01:43:28,394 argument that needs to be 3317 01:43:28,711 --> 01:43:28,961 brought forth is being brought 3318 01:43:29,377 --> 01:43:29,627 forth 3319 01:43:30,744 --> 01:43:30,994 and we are aggressively 3320 01:43:34,577 --> 01:43:34,827 making sure that all of the 3321 01:43:35,177 --> 01:43:35,427 angles that 3322 01:43:38,477 --> 01:43:38,727 need to be brought forth and 3323 01:43:40,011 --> 01:43:40,261 considered are being considered 3324 01:43:41,611 --> 01:43:41,861 probably about as much as I 3325 01:43:42,177 --> 01:43:42,427 should say on that 3326 01:43:50,177 --> 01:43:50,427 thank you for that. I just it's 3327 01:43:50,844 --> 01:43:51,094 just a squirrely 3328 01:43:53,677 --> 01:43:53,927 world where I guess 3329 01:43:56,377 --> 01:43:56,627 legal principles that you 3330 01:43:56,944 --> 01:43:57,194 believe 3331 01:43:58,244 --> 01:43:58,494 to be sound 3332 01:43:59,977 --> 01:44:00,227 and present 3333 01:44:03,677 --> 01:44:03,927 are then being challenged in it 3334 01:44:04,377 --> 01:44:04,627 in 3335 01:44:04,711 --> 01:44:04,961 and 3336 01:44:09,777 --> 01:44:10,027 leaving everything to some I 3337 01:44:10,377 --> 01:44:10,627 guess obscure 3338 01:44:14,277 --> 01:44:14,527 I would say obscure endings 3339 01:44:16,244 --> 01:44:16,494 right and I guess I guess that's 3340 01:44:17,777 --> 01:44:18,027 currently the environment we're 3341 01:44:19,477 --> 01:44:19,727 in right there are no straight 3342 01:44:20,177 --> 01:44:20,427 paths you're not following a 3343 01:44:20,844 --> 01:44:21,094 yellow brick road you're 3344 01:44:21,377 --> 01:44:21,627 actually following 3345 01:44:27,811 --> 01:44:28,061 agencies that are 3346 01:44:29,511 --> 01:44:29,761 federal agencies that are 3347 01:44:32,277 --> 01:44:32,527 overstepping I think and 3348 01:44:34,377 --> 01:44:34,627 really not thinking about 3349 01:44:38,444 --> 01:44:38,694 the dynamic between federalism 3350 01:44:41,544 --> 01:44:41,794 and how states actually keep a 3351 01:44:42,244 --> 01:44:42,494 certain amount of power 3352 01:44:45,477 --> 01:44:45,727 versus what the federal 3353 01:44:46,244 --> 01:44:46,494 government may want to tell them 3354 01:44:48,044 --> 01:44:48,294 to do but there is a fine line 3355 01:44:50,044 --> 01:44:50,294 and I think that is what the 3356 01:44:52,044 --> 01:44:52,294 Murphy decision kind of set 3357 01:44:54,311 --> 01:44:54,561 forth right they set forth what 3358 01:44:56,344 --> 01:44:56,594 is the relationship between 3359 01:44:59,511 --> 01:44:59,761 states and congre right and they 3360 01:45:01,511 --> 01:45:01,761 really spelled it out you know 3361 01:45:02,311 --> 01:45:02,561 in the Alito decision when he 3362 01:45:04,077 --> 01:45:04,327 really spelled out like he went 3363 01:45:05,777 --> 01:45:06,027 into that whole archaic 3364 01:45:07,511 --> 01:45:07,761 principle around the anti 3365 01:45:08,244 --> 01:45:08,494 commandeering where we were all 3366 01:45:10,277 --> 01:45:10,527 like what is this like why are 3367 01:45:11,877 --> 01:45:12,127 we going back to1868 but he 3368 01:45:12,511 --> 01:45:12,761 literally 3369 01:45:17,511 --> 01:45:17,761 spelled out like what the role 3370 01:45:18,311 --> 01:45:18,561 is between Congress and what is 3371 01:45:20,277 --> 01:45:20,527 the role between states and what 3372 01:45:23,744 --> 01:45:23,994 Congress can force a state to do 3373 01:45:25,811 --> 01:45:26,061 and what they cannot force us to 3374 01:45:27,511 --> 01:45:27,761 do and in this case we have a 3375 01:45:29,844 --> 01:45:30,094 private actor who without the 3376 01:45:30,511 --> 01:45:30,761 consent of the state 3377 01:45:34,011 --> 01:45:34,261 is running around doing business 3378 01:45:35,544 --> 01:45:35,794 in the state of Nevada without 3379 01:45:37,744 --> 01:45:37,994 our consent and we're trying to 3380 01:45:39,777 --> 01:45:40,027 figure out how to how to pull 3381 01:45:41,811 --> 01:45:42,061 that back and how to 3382 01:45:46,011 --> 01:45:46,261 put controls in that need to be 3383 01:45:48,244 --> 01:45:48,494 there and I would say that the 3384 01:45:49,777 --> 01:45:50,027 federal government is not 3385 01:45:51,511 --> 01:45:51,761 necessarily a partner in that 3386 01:45:53,511 --> 01:45:53,761 right that's my opinion which 3387 01:45:54,344 --> 01:45:54,594 which I appreciate and again you 3388 01:45:54,944 --> 01:45:55,194 know 3389 01:45:59,511 --> 01:45:59,761 the the focus from when it 3390 01:46:00,277 --> 01:46:00,527 waschir Hendrick and now myself 3391 01:46:02,477 --> 01:46:02,727 I took over about14 months ago 3392 01:46:04,011 --> 01:46:04,261 stepped right into this and the 3393 01:46:05,677 --> 01:46:05,927 focus the daily focus 3394 01:46:10,044 --> 01:46:10,294 has been to restrict and stop 3395 01:46:10,711 --> 01:46:10,961 this conduct in the state of 3396 01:46:11,377 --> 01:46:11,627 Nevada. 3397 01:46:14,044 --> 01:46:14,294 every day that's that's the 3398 01:46:15,511 --> 01:46:15,761 that's what's on the bulletin 3399 01:46:18,344 --> 01:46:18,594 board to stop it right now we've 3400 01:46:19,044 --> 01:46:19,294 we've achieved that. 3401 01:46:21,777 --> 01:46:22,027 and the matter's gonna keep 3402 01:46:23,811 --> 01:46:24,061 going through the courts. I 3403 01:46:26,344 --> 01:46:26,594 obviously we obviously 3404 01:46:29,511 --> 01:46:29,761 within the board agree with you 3405 01:46:31,977 --> 01:46:32,227 and we actually agree with 3406 01:46:33,511 --> 01:46:33,761 the Earl whatal she had said 3407 01:46:35,811 --> 01:46:36,061 earlier and what the CFTC had 3408 01:46:37,777 --> 01:46:38,027 said earlier which is that 3409 01:46:40,011 --> 01:46:40,261 sports contracts are not 3410 01:46:41,777 --> 01:46:42,027 permissible then all of a sudden 3411 01:46:43,777 --> 01:46:44,027 they change their mind and I go 3412 01:46:45,544 --> 01:46:45,794 back to my earlier comment when 3413 01:46:47,511 --> 01:46:47,761 there was an individual who was 3414 01:46:48,244 --> 01:46:48,494 interviewed who said something 3415 01:46:49,711 --> 01:46:49,961 he's in the he's in the 3416 01:46:50,277 --> 01:46:50,527 prediction market business 3417 01:46:53,777 --> 01:46:54,027 and he said this is an end run 3418 01:46:55,777 --> 01:46:56,027 around sports betting plain and 3419 01:46:57,777 --> 01:46:58,027 simple so we agree with you we 3420 01:47:00,077 --> 01:47:00,327 agree with that that concept 3421 01:47:00,744 --> 01:47:00,994 in terms of 3422 01:47:03,777 --> 01:47:04,027 this issue we're we're 3423 01:47:05,511 --> 01:47:05,761 protecting the state of Nevada 3424 01:47:07,511 --> 01:47:07,761 and the things will keep going 3425 01:47:08,144 --> 01:47:08,394 through the courts but we have 3426 01:47:09,777 --> 01:47:10,027 stopped the conduct which is 3427 01:47:11,511 --> 01:47:11,761 critical and that was no small 3428 01:47:15,477 --> 01:47:15,727 feat. We had to some actors were 3429 01:47:16,511 --> 01:47:16,761 easier to stop than others some 3430 01:47:18,411 --> 01:47:18,661 have been very aggressive and we 3431 01:47:19,077 --> 01:47:19,327 stopped them too 3432 01:47:22,211 --> 01:47:22,461 and so as I said earlier there's 3433 01:47:24,477 --> 01:47:24,727 many more chapters of this 3434 01:47:26,277 --> 01:47:26,527 book but we come before you at a 3435 01:47:28,011 --> 01:47:28,261 point where we've stopped this 3436 01:47:30,244 --> 01:47:30,494 and the legal interpretation 3437 01:47:31,744 --> 01:47:31,994 obviously you can see from our 3438 01:47:33,777 --> 01:47:34,027 filings and our approach that we 3439 01:47:35,511 --> 01:47:35,761 we agree with much of what 3440 01:47:38,044 --> 01:47:38,294 you've said and you know 3441 01:47:39,511 --> 01:47:39,761 we're we're doing the best we 3442 01:47:42,044 --> 01:47:42,294 can within within what what's 3443 01:47:44,211 --> 01:47:44,461 what's happening here we 3444 01:47:46,244 --> 01:47:46,494 definitely disagree with the the 3445 01:47:48,577 --> 01:47:48,827 CFTc's approach on this and 3446 01:47:53,711 --> 01:47:53,961 we will continue to fight there 3447 01:47:56,177 --> 01:47:56,427 may be 24 moredCms which pop up 3448 01:47:56,877 --> 01:47:57,127 tomorrow. 3449 01:47:58,344 --> 01:47:58,594 and we're gonna fight them too 3450 01:48:01,777 --> 01:48:02,027 because that is my commitment to 3451 01:48:03,844 --> 01:48:04,094 to you and and to the state that 3452 01:48:04,511 --> 01:48:04,761 we fight that 3453 01:48:09,511 --> 01:48:09,761 so it it has to unfold so yes I 3454 01:48:10,211 --> 01:48:10,461 agree with what you're saying we 3455 01:48:13,511 --> 01:48:13,761 have kept this completely you 3456 01:48:15,744 --> 01:48:15,994 know to the issue of fairness 3457 01:48:17,711 --> 01:48:17,961 and to the issue of of following 3458 01:48:20,277 --> 01:48:20,527 the law and you know it's our 3459 01:48:23,511 --> 01:48:23,761 expectation that in the end 3460 01:48:25,511 --> 01:48:25,761 the the law will be followed 3461 01:48:27,744 --> 01:48:27,994 it's just a matter of the damage 3462 01:48:28,511 --> 01:48:28,761 that will be done until we get 3463 01:48:29,177 --> 01:48:29,427 there. 3464 01:48:30,677 --> 01:48:30,927 and that's unfortunate 3465 01:48:34,044 --> 01:48:34,294 fairil if I might if I might be 3466 01:48:35,511 --> 01:48:35,761 able to add one more comment to 3467 01:48:37,511 --> 01:48:37,761 piggyback on on on the 3468 01:48:38,011 --> 01:48:38,261 chairman's remarks and to go 3469 01:48:40,011 --> 01:48:40,261 back to what you were saying 3470 01:48:42,011 --> 01:48:42,261 regarding thecFTC being kind of 3471 01:48:44,011 --> 01:48:44,261 a small rogue agency where 3472 01:48:45,777 --> 01:48:46,027 they're now taking this 3473 01:48:47,544 --> 01:48:47,794 authority that was never 3474 01:48:50,011 --> 01:48:50,261 expressly given to them and they 3475 01:48:51,544 --> 01:48:51,794 certainly are not equipped to 3476 01:48:53,511 --> 01:48:53,761 handle it. there actually was a 3477 01:48:56,044 --> 01:48:56,294 recent rebuke in a in a legal 3478 01:48:57,777 --> 01:48:58,027 ruling from a federal district 3479 01:48:59,777 --> 01:49:00,027 judge in a case that that came 3480 01:49:00,444 --> 01:49:00,694 out of Connecticut and 3481 01:49:03,611 --> 01:49:03,861 I think you will find it 3482 01:49:05,511 --> 01:49:05,761 extraordinary as I did that 3483 01:49:06,311 --> 01:49:06,561 there there have been two cases 3484 01:49:08,244 --> 01:49:08,494 recently one in Michigan and one 3485 01:49:09,744 --> 01:49:09,994 in the state of New York where 3486 01:49:13,511 --> 01:49:13,761 the CFTC has sought to has 3487 01:49:14,511 --> 01:49:14,761 sought to call upon what they 3488 01:49:17,777 --> 01:49:18,027 call their exclusive authority 3489 01:49:21,511 --> 01:49:21,761 to to basically say that a state 3490 01:49:23,811 --> 01:49:24,061 court ruling on whether or not 3491 01:49:25,511 --> 01:49:25,761 to prohibit sports betting 3492 01:49:26,544 --> 01:49:26,794 through prediction markets it 3493 01:49:30,177 --> 01:49:30,427 can be ignored and that that is 3494 01:49:30,844 --> 01:49:31,094 a particular 3495 01:49:31,177 --> 01:49:31,427 ly 3496 01:49:35,777 --> 01:49:36,027 on awe inspiring thing for for 3497 01:49:37,777 --> 01:49:38,027 for an a federal agency like the 3498 01:49:39,777 --> 01:49:40,027 CFTc which as the chairman 3499 01:49:41,744 --> 01:49:41,994 stated was was originally stated 3500 01:49:44,044 --> 01:49:44,294 to created to to regulate 3501 01:49:46,244 --> 01:49:46,494 soybean and soybean futures and 3502 01:49:48,277 --> 01:49:48,527 wheat futures is now basically 3503 01:49:50,277 --> 01:49:50,527 telling the prediction market 3504 01:49:52,077 --> 01:49:52,327 companies that they ostensibly 3505 01:49:54,277 --> 01:49:54,527 regulate that they can ignore 3506 01:49:56,244 --> 01:49:56,494 lawful court orders at some 3507 01:49:57,844 --> 01:49:58,094 point and a federal judge 3508 01:50:00,011 --> 01:50:00,261 recently within the last two 3509 01:50:02,244 --> 01:50:02,494 weeks in in in anecticut case 3510 01:50:05,477 --> 01:50:05,727 specifically called out thecFTC 3511 01:50:07,511 --> 01:50:07,761 for even attempting to to go 3512 01:50:09,744 --> 01:50:09,994 about that that line of legal 3513 01:50:12,011 --> 01:50:12,261 reasoning basically saying that 3514 01:50:14,011 --> 01:50:14,261 any authority that the CFTC 3515 01:50:15,777 --> 01:50:16,027 thinks that they have is not 3516 01:50:17,744 --> 01:50:17,994 going to conflict with with any 3517 01:50:19,511 --> 01:50:19,761 court's rulings and that they 3518 01:50:20,244 --> 01:50:20,494 they have to abide by them just 3519 01:50:22,044 --> 01:50:22,294 like everyone else and so it was 3520 01:50:24,011 --> 01:50:24,261 a pretty extraordinary rebuke to 3521 01:50:26,044 --> 01:50:26,294 a pretty extraordinary move by 3522 01:50:28,011 --> 01:50:28,261 the CFTc in in in my view 3523 01:50:30,011 --> 01:50:30,261 and the only other thing that 3524 01:50:31,977 --> 01:50:32,227 I'll you know mention to go back 3525 01:50:33,977 --> 01:50:34,227 to the conversation about you 3526 01:50:35,744 --> 01:50:35,994 know these these companies that 3527 01:50:36,511 --> 01:50:36,761 are now doing deals with sports 3528 01:50:38,011 --> 01:50:38,261 leagues and individual sports 3529 01:50:40,011 --> 01:50:40,261 teams and the entire theory of 3530 01:50:42,011 --> 01:50:42,261 the case I personally believe 3531 01:50:43,777 --> 01:50:44,027 for this is they are attempting 3532 01:50:45,477 --> 01:50:45,727 to get too big to fail as 3533 01:50:47,477 --> 01:50:47,727 quickly as they can and so that 3534 01:50:48,477 --> 01:50:48,727 it just in their view it 3535 01:50:51,777 --> 01:50:52,027 makes it more difficult for 3536 01:50:53,577 --> 01:50:53,827 likely the supreme court to 3537 01:50:55,777 --> 01:50:56,027 strike down what is80 to90% of 3538 01:50:57,544 --> 01:50:57,794 their business if they are so 3539 01:50:58,144 --> 01:50:58,394 integrated or trying to get as 3540 01:50:58,811 --> 01:50:59,061 integrated 3541 01:51:01,511 --> 01:51:01,761 as they can into the fabric of 3542 01:51:02,211 --> 01:51:02,461 American culture and what I mean 3543 01:51:03,744 --> 01:51:03,994 by that is it's not just 3544 01:51:05,511 --> 01:51:05,761 individual sports teams or 3545 01:51:06,111 --> 01:51:06,361 individual sports leagues they 3546 01:51:08,011 --> 01:51:08,261 also have they have 3547 01:51:09,811 --> 01:51:10,061 information sharing deals with 3548 01:51:11,777 --> 01:51:12,027 with you know the CnNs of the 3549 01:51:13,511 --> 01:51:13,761 world and the CNBC's of the 3550 01:51:15,511 --> 01:51:15,761 world and so you know their 3551 01:51:16,277 --> 01:51:16,527 official sponsors for media 3552 01:51:18,011 --> 01:51:18,261 organizations and all of these 3553 01:51:19,511 --> 01:51:19,761 different types of things and so 3554 01:51:20,244 --> 01:51:20,494 I think they're burrowing in 3555 01:51:22,011 --> 01:51:22,261 they're trying to raise money at 3556 01:51:24,044 --> 01:51:24,294 historic valuations now you know 3557 01:51:25,511 --> 01:51:25,761 they're they're looking at 3558 01:51:27,511 --> 01:51:27,761 trying to get up to30 to40 3559 01:51:28,111 --> 01:51:28,361 billion dollars in valuations 3560 01:51:31,511 --> 01:51:31,761 and again the you know these at 3561 01:51:32,244 --> 01:51:32,494 least the two largest prediction 3562 01:51:33,777 --> 01:51:34,027 market companies are both 3563 01:51:35,511 --> 01:51:35,761 private so these are this is 3564 01:51:36,211 --> 01:51:36,461 private raising they may go 3565 01:51:39,511 --> 01:51:39,761 public at some point but all 3566 01:51:40,244 --> 01:51:40,494 of this again is to just try to 3567 01:51:42,277 --> 01:51:42,527 get to a point where they appear 3568 01:51:44,244 --> 01:51:44,494 to be too big to fail and you 3569 01:51:47,511 --> 01:51:47,761 know at the end of the day I I 3570 01:51:48,144 --> 01:51:48,394 believe and I hope that that 3571 01:51:48,744 --> 01:51:48,994 that 3572 01:51:50,244 --> 01:51:50,494 the United States Supreme Court 3573 01:51:51,977 --> 01:51:52,227 is going to look at the law and 3574 01:51:53,511 --> 01:51:53,761 make a determination on what the 3575 01:51:54,511 --> 01:51:54,761 law is and I think at the end of 3576 01:51:56,044 --> 01:51:56,294 the day the question will come 3577 01:51:58,011 --> 01:51:58,261 down to not how broadly broad a 3578 01:51:59,744 --> 01:51:59,994 definition of a swap is but what 3579 01:52:01,511 --> 01:52:01,761 it's going to come down to is 3580 01:52:03,511 --> 01:52:03,761 what did Congress intend because 3581 01:52:05,511 --> 01:52:05,761 as the chairman said earlier you 3582 01:52:06,511 --> 01:52:06,761 know hiding hiding elephants 3583 01:52:07,777 --> 01:52:08,027 and mouse holes that's kind of 3584 01:52:09,511 --> 01:52:09,761 like the legal principle and 3585 01:52:11,777 --> 01:52:12,027 that if if if Congress intended 3586 01:52:14,277 --> 01:52:14,527 to preempt a traditional area of 3587 01:52:17,511 --> 01:52:17,761 regulation by the states in any 3588 01:52:18,244 --> 01:52:18,494 industry but in this case 3589 01:52:18,811 --> 01:52:19,061 gambling 3590 01:52:21,477 --> 01:52:21,727 they would have expressly done 3591 01:52:23,777 --> 01:52:24,027 so and not and not you know 3592 01:52:24,477 --> 01:52:24,727 simply expanded the definition 3593 01:52:27,511 --> 01:52:27,761 of a swap and it took someone 15 3594 01:52:28,244 --> 01:52:28,494 years to realize oh by the way 3595 01:52:30,011 --> 01:52:30,261 Congress authorized nationwide 3596 01:52:31,744 --> 01:52:31,994 sports betting. It literally 3597 01:52:34,211 --> 01:52:34,461 defies belief and that's why you 3598 01:52:36,244 --> 01:52:36,494 know at the end of the day I 3599 01:52:38,011 --> 01:52:38,261 I I think we're going to win and 3600 01:52:40,211 --> 01:52:40,461 commend all of all of you for 3601 01:52:40,877 --> 01:52:41,127 for your 3602 01:52:43,777 --> 01:52:44,027 for your engagement on this and 3603 01:52:45,511 --> 01:52:45,761 as well as chairman Dreiter's 3604 01:52:46,444 --> 01:52:46,694 leadership and General Ford and 3605 01:52:47,111 --> 01:52:47,361 governor Lombardo as well 3606 01:52:50,011 --> 01:52:50,261 can can I make just a couple of 3607 01:52:52,277 --> 01:52:52,527 points to follow on that the 3608 01:52:54,044 --> 01:52:54,294 certainly we have heard and it's 3609 01:52:55,777 --> 01:52:56,027 been said and it makes sense at 3610 01:52:57,511 --> 01:52:57,761 some level this idea that 3611 01:52:58,011 --> 01:52:58,261 they're trying to become too big 3612 01:52:59,477 --> 01:52:59,727 to fail so they're doing all 3613 01:53:00,511 --> 01:53:00,761 these these contracts I think 3614 01:53:01,977 --> 01:53:02,227 that's a red herring in the 3615 01:53:05,511 --> 01:53:05,761 sense that we're not out to 3616 01:53:07,544 --> 01:53:07,794 pursue their failure it doesn't 3617 01:53:09,944 --> 01:53:10,194 have to be one or the other they 3618 01:53:10,611 --> 01:53:10,861 can 3619 01:53:12,544 --> 01:53:12,794 they'll never be too big to 3620 01:53:14,311 --> 01:53:14,561 regulate. The point is all this 3621 01:53:18,011 --> 01:53:18,261 conduct if they choose to not 3622 01:53:20,277 --> 01:53:20,527 all of it but you know they can 3623 01:53:23,777 --> 01:53:24,027 come to Nevada we would be you 3624 01:53:24,511 --> 01:53:24,761 know willing to have them come 3625 01:53:26,311 --> 01:53:26,561 to Nevada and get a license like 3626 01:53:28,277 --> 01:53:28,527 everybody else and potentially 3627 01:53:31,511 --> 01:53:31,761 pursue some of the things 3628 01:53:32,311 --> 01:53:32,561 they're doing in Nevada that 3629 01:53:34,044 --> 01:53:34,294 they otherwise can't do without 3630 01:53:36,311 --> 01:53:36,561 a license so we're not 3631 01:53:38,044 --> 01:53:38,294 rooting for their the prediction 3632 01:53:39,877 --> 01:53:40,127 market's failure we just want 3633 01:53:40,544 --> 01:53:40,794 them to come in and do 3634 01:53:42,277 --> 01:53:42,527 it the right way and get a 3635 01:53:46,277 --> 01:53:46,527 license and and bes vetted 3636 01:53:48,211 --> 01:53:48,461 to ensure that they meet the 3637 01:53:49,744 --> 01:53:49,994 standards of the privileged 3638 01:53:51,744 --> 01:53:51,994 license of gaming in the state 3639 01:53:53,744 --> 01:53:53,994 of Nevada and of course they to 3640 01:53:54,511 --> 01:53:54,761 date have shown no interest in 3641 01:53:57,511 --> 01:53:57,761 that so the point is it doesn't 3642 01:53:58,311 --> 01:53:58,561 have to be all or nothing it 3643 01:54:00,277 --> 01:54:00,527 doesn't have to be you know the 3644 01:54:02,311 --> 01:54:02,561 they too big to fail they're not 3645 01:54:04,244 --> 01:54:04,494 too big to regulate and we 3646 01:54:06,277 --> 01:54:06,527 should as other states should 3647 01:54:08,044 --> 01:54:08,294 have the ability to regulate 3648 01:54:08,677 --> 01:54:08,927 them and to make our decision 3649 01:54:12,044 --> 01:54:12,294 about the best way to make sure 3650 01:54:14,044 --> 01:54:14,294 that they are suitable to allow 3651 01:54:16,044 --> 01:54:16,294 them to engage in the gaming 3652 01:54:17,511 --> 01:54:17,761 industry in the state of Nevada 3653 01:54:18,311 --> 01:54:18,561 and to the extent that they 3654 01:54:19,744 --> 01:54:19,994 continue to have no interest in 3655 01:54:20,511 --> 01:54:20,761 that we will continue to fight 3656 01:54:22,277 --> 01:54:22,527 with everything we have to make 3657 01:54:24,111 --> 01:54:24,361 sure that our rights are 3658 01:54:24,677 --> 01:54:24,927 protected. 3659 01:54:26,944 --> 01:54:27,194 so thank you for that and 3660 01:54:30,277 --> 01:54:30,527 and and I just it's a short 3661 01:54:32,277 --> 01:54:32,527 question and then it's really my 3662 01:54:33,744 --> 01:54:33,994 final question and then we're 3663 01:54:34,377 --> 01:54:34,627 going to close this out and move 3664 01:54:36,077 --> 01:54:36,327 to the next presentation but 3665 01:54:38,277 --> 01:54:38,527 if we bring them in under the 3666 01:54:40,277 --> 01:54:40,527 regulation like let's say you 3667 01:54:42,044 --> 01:54:42,294 know all the fighting ends and 3668 01:54:43,677 --> 01:54:43,927 it's like right we agreed to be 3669 01:54:44,344 --> 01:54:44,594 regulated 3670 01:54:46,444 --> 01:54:46,694 or punished or whatever 3671 01:54:51,511 --> 01:54:51,761 what do you think the rate 3672 01:54:53,511 --> 01:54:53,761 should be?hould they roll into 3673 01:54:56,311 --> 01:54:56,561 the existing6.75 or should it be 3674 01:54:57,711 --> 01:54:57,961 a higher rate because 3675 01:54:58,144 --> 01:54:58,394 technically 3676 01:55:02,011 --> 01:55:02,261 I mean I'm a revenue cheer 3677 01:55:04,011 --> 01:55:04,261 right so I'm always thinking 3678 01:55:06,577 --> 01:55:06,827 like if they're outside and like 3679 01:55:07,244 --> 01:55:07,494 in addition to 3680 01:55:11,744 --> 01:55:11,994 should that be a higher rate 3681 01:55:13,644 --> 01:55:13,894 because technically there 3682 01:55:17,877 --> 01:55:18,127 they're not a casino 3683 01:55:22,077 --> 01:55:22,327 they're not they will become a 3684 01:55:24,444 --> 01:55:24,694 form of licensee but that would 3685 01:55:25,077 --> 01:55:25,327 be defined 3686 01:55:26,344 --> 01:55:26,594 on what that licensee is 3687 01:55:31,511 --> 01:55:31,761 I'm going to senator Neon 3688 01:55:32,077 --> 01:55:32,327 committee members I'm going to 3689 01:55:33,744 --> 01:55:33,994 defer to the legislature and to 3690 01:55:35,744 --> 01:55:35,994 that process it's it's not my 3691 01:55:38,044 --> 01:55:38,294 place to say what the rate 3692 01:55:40,277 --> 01:55:40,527 should be it's my s job to 3693 01:55:43,511 --> 01:55:43,761 dutifully execute on it that 3694 01:55:45,511 --> 01:55:45,761 which the legislature and the 3695 01:55:46,277 --> 01:55:46,527 governor ultimately decide so 3696 01:55:47,777 --> 01:55:48,027 I'm gonna I'm gonna sidestep 3697 01:55:49,777 --> 01:55:50,027 that but what I will say is this 3698 01:55:50,444 --> 01:55:50,694 and I think this is an important 3699 01:55:52,344 --> 01:55:52,594 point when you talk there's this 3700 01:55:54,044 --> 01:55:54,294 notion that somehow 3701 01:55:56,344 --> 01:55:56,594 their technology is so different 3702 01:55:57,011 --> 01:55:57,261 that it couldn't be 3703 01:55:59,777 --> 01:56:00,027 re gu late d in the state of 3704 01:56:02,011 --> 01:56:02,261 Nevada that is nonsense right 3705 01:56:04,311 --> 01:56:04,561 now I'm not suggesting that we 3706 01:56:06,011 --> 01:56:06,261 might not need some changes to 3707 01:56:09,744 --> 01:56:09,994 our our regs to somehow allow 3708 01:56:11,777 --> 01:56:12,027 some sort of you know 3709 01:56:13,744 --> 01:56:13,994 prediction type product in 3710 01:56:15,511 --> 01:56:15,761 Nevada it's possible right we'd 3711 01:56:16,277 --> 01:56:16,527 have to look at that but this 3712 01:56:18,011 --> 01:56:18,261 notion that we don't have the 3713 01:56:19,777 --> 01:56:20,027 ability to regulate their 3714 01:56:23,511 --> 01:56:23,761 conduct is absolute nonsense 3715 01:56:26,011 --> 01:56:26,261 and we look if if it's the will 3716 01:56:26,744 --> 01:56:26,994 of the state and then the 3717 01:56:29,777 --> 01:56:30,027 ul ti mate ly the will of the 3718 01:56:31,477 --> 01:56:31,727 players that they like these 3719 01:56:32,244 --> 01:56:32,494 types of products and there's a 3720 01:56:34,044 --> 01:56:34,294 way to bring them in under our 3721 01:56:35,677 --> 01:56:35,927 regulation which I believe 3722 01:56:36,244 --> 01:56:36,494 largely there could be 3723 01:56:40,244 --> 01:56:40,494 and whatever tax status is 3724 01:56:42,277 --> 01:56:42,527 decided upon we can regulate 3725 01:56:44,011 --> 01:56:44,261 them. they try and say that 3726 01:56:45,511 --> 01:56:45,761 there's something completely 3727 01:56:47,511 --> 01:56:47,761 different the reality is it's a 3728 01:56:48,511 --> 01:56:48,761 betting exchange and we're very 3729 01:56:51,511 --> 01:56:51,761 capable of regulating that 3730 01:56:52,111 --> 01:56:52,361 and making sure it's safe, 3731 01:56:54,011 --> 01:56:54,261 making sure whatever taxes are 3732 01:56:56,044 --> 01:56:56,294 decided upon are paid properly 3733 01:56:58,011 --> 01:56:58,261 all of that we can do all of 3734 01:56:59,744 --> 01:56:59,994 that we've shown for70 years we 3735 01:57:00,577 --> 01:57:00,827 can do it and we can do it 3736 01:57:02,044 --> 01:57:02,294 they're not that special right 3737 01:57:04,311 --> 01:57:04,561 we can do that so we we would 3738 01:57:05,677 --> 01:57:05,927 welcome that technology 3739 01:57:08,044 --> 01:57:08,294 into the state if the powers 3740 01:57:10,011 --> 01:57:10,261 that be decided they wanted it 3741 01:57:11,777 --> 01:57:12,027 and we could faithfully regulate 3742 01:57:13,777 --> 01:57:14,027 it in the state so this notion 3743 01:57:15,477 --> 01:57:15,727 that we wouldn't know how to do 3744 01:57:16,244 --> 01:57:16,494 it we've been called we've been 3745 01:57:18,244 --> 01:57:18,494 insulted we've been called slot 3746 01:57:20,277 --> 01:57:20,527 regulators and you who are not 3747 01:57:22,011 --> 01:57:22,261 sophisticated who don't 3748 01:57:24,277 --> 01:57:24,527 understand how what what 3749 01:57:25,777 --> 01:57:26,027 they're doing is different 3750 01:57:27,511 --> 01:57:27,761 that's nonsense we can 3751 01:57:28,311 --> 01:57:28,561 absolutely regulate them but of 3752 01:57:30,044 --> 01:57:30,294 course they've shown no interest 3753 01:57:31,777 --> 01:57:32,027 in that. Well I appreciate that 3754 01:57:33,811 --> 01:57:34,061 comment. maybe there'll be a 3755 01:57:35,677 --> 01:57:35,927 sophisticated tax rate. No I'm 3756 01:57:36,377 --> 01:57:36,627 sorry 3757 01:57:38,111 --> 01:57:38,361 as you wish 3758 01:57:44,044 --> 01:57:44,294 you know raising revenues the 3759 01:57:47,511 --> 01:57:47,761 thing to do ok well thank you 3760 01:57:49,477 --> 01:57:49,727 thank you Mr York thank youchair 3761 01:57:51,777 --> 01:57:52,027 Drreiter for coming in and doing 3762 01:57:53,511 --> 01:57:53,761 this really thoughtful 3763 01:57:54,277 --> 01:57:54,527 presentation wanted to make sure 3764 01:57:54,911 --> 01:57:55,161 we got that in 3765 01:57:58,277 --> 01:57:58,527 and this has been very 3766 01:58:00,277 --> 01:58:00,527 informative and educational, so 3767 01:58:02,277 --> 01:58:02,527 I'm hoping that you know I know 3768 01:58:03,744 --> 01:58:03,994 there's going to be some 3769 01:58:05,977 --> 01:58:06,227 legislation on this but I just 3770 01:58:08,111 --> 01:58:08,361 wanted to make sure we got this 3771 01:58:08,777 --> 01:58:09,027 on the record 3772 01:58:11,977 --> 01:58:12,227 if there was any future action 3773 01:58:15,677 --> 01:58:15,927 that the revenueittee was 3774 01:58:16,244 --> 01:58:16,494 considering 3775 01:58:19,977 --> 01:58:20,227 something but we 3776 01:58:21,511 --> 01:58:21,761 appreciate your time this 3777 01:58:22,077 --> 01:58:22,327 morning and thank you so much. 3778 01:58:24,011 --> 01:58:24,261 thank you very much 3779 01:58:27,511 --> 01:58:27,761 so with that yeah we will close 3780 01:58:28,177 --> 01:58:28,427 agenda item number 3781 01:58:39,677 --> 01:58:39,927 and then we will go to agenda 3782 01:58:40,344 --> 01:58:40,594 item number7. 3783 01:58:43,711 --> 01:58:43,961 No do we do that 3784 01:58:48,477 --> 01:58:48,727 didn't do we didn't do6view 3785 01:58:51,744 --> 01:58:51,994 are you doing the overview of 3786 01:58:55,777 --> 01:58:56,027 the taxes? can we can we I know 3787 01:58:57,711 --> 01:58:57,961 Mr Nakamoto can we do the 3788 01:58:58,244 --> 01:58:58,494 workforce folks 3789 01:58:59,677 --> 01:58:59,927 then come back to that 3790 01:59:05,744 --> 01:59:05,994 madam Chairmi Nakamura with 3791 01:59:07,511 --> 01:59:07,761 fiscal analysis division for the 3792 01:59:08,211 --> 01:59:08,461 record I am not doing the 3793 01:59:10,244 --> 01:59:10,494 presentation on the gaming so 3794 01:59:12,211 --> 01:59:12,461 but it is your call. yeah let's 3795 01:59:13,677 --> 01:59:13,927 do7 3796 01:59:17,644 --> 01:59:17,894 and then we'll come back to6. 3797 01:59:20,211 --> 01:59:20,461 because it flows in with the 3798 01:59:22,244 --> 01:59:22,494 overview of the sales tax tax 3799 01:59:25,477 --> 01:59:25,727 rate anyway so I'm gonna I'm 3800 01:59:26,244 --> 01:59:26,494 gonna members I'm gonna 3801 01:59:27,944 --> 01:59:28,194 rearrange this 3802 01:59:32,511 --> 01:59:32,761 I'm gonna take7 which is the 3803 01:59:34,311 --> 01:59:34,561 overview discussion of workforce 3804 01:59:35,777 --> 01:59:36,027 development programs in the 3805 01:59:36,511 --> 01:59:36,761 state of Nevada because it's a 3806 01:59:37,177 --> 01:59:37,427 very narrow 3807 01:59:41,511 --> 01:59:41,761 conversation and then we'll 3808 01:59:44,244 --> 01:59:44,494 combine the gaming tax fees and 3809 01:59:46,344 --> 01:59:46,594 then the sales sales and use tax 3810 01:59:47,011 --> 01:59:47,261 rate 3811 01:59:48,277 --> 01:59:48,527 conversation together 3812 02:00:30,211 --> 02:00:30,461 OK all right thank you we 3813 02:00:31,677 --> 02:00:31,927 just we have a member that is 3814 02:00:33,677 --> 02:00:33,927 went to the wrong place 3815 02:00:36,544 --> 02:00:36,794 didn't know he was coming 3816 02:00:41,477 --> 02:00:41,727 but ok let's move on to agenda 3817 02:00:42,611 --> 02:00:42,861 item number7. you may begin when 3818 02:00:43,244 --> 02:00:43,494 you're ready. 3819 02:00:47,511 --> 02:00:47,761 thank you madam chair for the 3820 02:00:48,111 --> 02:00:48,361 record my name is Irene 3821 02:00:50,244 --> 02:00:50,494 Bustamantha Adams and I'm joined 3822 02:00:50,911 --> 02:00:51,161 by my two 3823 02:00:52,211 --> 02:00:52,461 colleaguesiccardorillalobos here 3824 02:00:54,311 --> 02:00:54,561 on my left our chief programme 3825 02:00:56,244 --> 02:00:56,494 officer at Workforce Connections 3826 02:00:58,244 --> 02:00:58,494 and Brett Miller are strategic 3827 02:01:02,011 --> 02:01:02,261 analysis manager we have many 3828 02:01:02,644 --> 02:01:02,894 requests from our leadership 3829 02:01:04,077 --> 02:01:04,327 team and unfortunately our 3830 02:01:06,011 --> 02:01:06,261 executive director representing 3831 02:01:08,277 --> 02:01:08,527 our team is at another event we 3832 02:01:10,277 --> 02:01:10,527 are dividing in order to address 3833 02:01:13,511 --> 02:01:13,761 the many demands of our time he 3834 02:01:14,177 --> 02:01:14,427 asked me to convey his regrets 3835 02:01:14,844 --> 02:01:15,094 to the 3836 02:01:17,511 --> 02:01:17,761 committee for not being present 3837 02:01:19,511 --> 02:01:19,761 and he appreciates the 3838 02:01:20,711 --> 02:01:20,961 opportunity for us to share the 3839 02:01:21,377 --> 02:01:21,627 work with you all 3840 02:01:28,011 --> 02:01:28,261 So this is a picture that I've 3841 02:01:30,244 --> 02:01:30,494 shared before it is a picture 3842 02:01:32,011 --> 02:01:32,261 of the workforce ecosystem that 3843 02:01:33,777 --> 02:01:34,027 is funded through workforce 3844 02:01:35,744 --> 02:01:35,994 innovation Opportunity Act or 3845 02:01:38,211 --> 02:01:38,461 weOa for short. these are 3846 02:01:40,211 --> 02:01:40,461 federal funds given to17 3847 02:01:42,244 --> 02:01:42,494 different entities in this 3848 02:01:45,511 --> 02:01:45,761 ecosystem we are referred to as 3849 02:01:48,011 --> 02:01:48,261 title I eachach entity has a 3850 02:01:49,744 --> 02:01:49,994 formula attached to how that 3851 02:01:50,511 --> 02:01:50,761 money is allocated from the 3852 02:01:54,177 --> 02:01:54,427 federal level here's what I 3853 02:01:54,777 --> 02:01:55,027 want you to remember 3854 02:01:58,011 --> 02:01:58,261 workforce connections is a small 3855 02:02:01,477 --> 02:02:01,727 portion of the funds we do not 3856 02:02:05,511 --> 02:02:05,761 control all17. that is an entire 3857 02:02:07,777 --> 02:02:08,027 ecosystem and so workforce 3858 02:02:09,544 --> 02:02:09,794 connections is ressponsible for 3859 02:02:11,777 --> 02:02:12,027 the southern portion of the 3860 02:02:13,511 --> 02:02:13,761 state of Nevada so it's clark 3861 02:02:17,744 --> 02:02:17,994 Esmeralda Lincoln and ny and so 3862 02:02:19,511 --> 02:02:19,761 you'll hear about the northern 3863 02:02:20,511 --> 02:02:20,761 portion right after us with our 3864 02:02:23,511 --> 02:02:23,761 counterpart from Nevadaorks and 3865 02:02:24,211 --> 02:02:24,461 our mission we've stated it 3866 02:02:24,777 --> 02:02:25,027 before is 3867 02:02:27,444 --> 02:02:27,694 to connect employers to a ready 3868 02:02:28,111 --> 02:02:28,361 workforce. 3869 02:02:31,977 --> 02:02:32,227 so your committee asked us to 3870 02:02:35,511 --> 02:02:35,761 answer3 questionsgras and 3871 02:02:36,377 --> 02:02:36,627 employment outcomes for foster 3872 02:02:37,044 --> 02:02:37,294 care 3873 02:02:43,761 --> 02:02:44,011 2 how did AB354 from the 2017 3874 02:02:46,244 --> 02:02:46,494 legislative session was used 3875 02:02:48,011 --> 02:02:48,261 to guide our workforce planning 3876 02:02:50,211 --> 02:02:50,461 and service delivery and3 how 3877 02:02:51,977 --> 02:02:52,227 does workforce connection 3878 02:02:53,977 --> 02:02:54,227 support workers and employers as 3879 02:02:55,711 --> 02:02:55,961 Ai and automation reshape job 3880 02:03:00,211 --> 02:03:00,461 so in the question regarding 3881 02:03:02,211 --> 02:03:02,461 foster care you asked us to 3882 02:03:05,977 --> 02:03:06,227 focus on a couple of thingsfs 3883 02:03:07,711 --> 02:03:07,961 over the last10 years are 3884 02:03:10,011 --> 02:03:10,261 outreach efforts demographics 3885 02:03:11,811 --> 02:03:12,061 statistics and placement of 3886 02:03:12,411 --> 02:03:12,661 employment 3887 02:03:15,744 --> 02:03:15,994 and i'll hand it over to 3888 02:03:17,744 --> 02:03:17,994 my colleague. Yeah thank thank 3889 02:03:19,477 --> 02:03:19,727 you Irene Ricardo Vilobos for 3890 02:03:21,711 --> 02:03:21,961 the record that's Rri C Ar D 3891 02:03:25,477 --> 02:03:25,727 Oviolobos vil L a L O B O S I 3892 02:03:26,211 --> 02:03:26,461 think what I wanted to do here 3893 02:03:29,511 --> 02:03:29,761 was set context for the work 3894 02:03:30,211 --> 02:03:30,461 we do as a local workforce 3895 02:03:31,711 --> 02:03:31,961 development board for theun 3896 02:03:32,311 --> 02:03:32,561 Nevada region 3897 02:03:35,477 --> 02:03:35,727 and just to provide some context 3898 02:03:37,477 --> 02:03:37,727 and perspective it notes here 3899 02:03:38,444 --> 02:03:38,694 that there's over36,000 3900 02:03:41,477 --> 02:03:41,727 disconnected young people those 3901 02:03:42,244 --> 02:03:42,494 are young people who are neither 3902 02:03:44,044 --> 02:03:44,294 working nor in school between 3903 02:03:44,711 --> 02:03:44,961 the ages of16 to 24. 3904 02:03:47,977 --> 02:03:48,227 weoa the workforce innovation 3905 02:03:49,977 --> 02:03:50,227 Opportunity Actitle One funds 3906 02:03:51,744 --> 02:03:51,994 that workforce connectction 3907 02:03:53,744 --> 02:03:53,994 receives has the opportunity 3908 02:03:55,844 --> 02:03:56,094 to serve approximately1,000 3909 02:03:56,377 --> 02:03:56,627 young people per year. 3910 02:03:59,977 --> 02:04:00,227 how it works out to about60 3911 02:04:02,211 --> 02:04:02,461 to700 young people that are 3912 02:04:04,211 --> 02:04:04,461 enrolled in programming as new 3913 02:04:06,177 --> 02:04:06,427 enrollments and then about3 3914 02:04:08,444 --> 02:04:08,694 to400 that actually carry over 3915 02:04:10,011 --> 02:04:10,261 year after year because it's not 3916 02:04:13,477 --> 02:04:13,727 that they start July 1 all 1000 3917 02:04:14,177 --> 02:04:14,427 then continue throughout the 3918 02:04:15,811 --> 02:04:16,061 year enrollments happen on an 3919 02:04:16,477 --> 02:04:16,727 ongoing basis 3920 02:04:19,511 --> 02:04:19,761 we all wea requires us to 3921 02:04:20,211 --> 02:04:20,461 provide services to various 3922 02:04:21,944 --> 02:04:22,194 youth populations facing 3923 02:04:23,977 --> 02:04:24,227 significant barriers youth 3924 02:04:26,011 --> 02:04:26,261 where justice involved homeless 3925 02:04:28,177 --> 02:04:28,427 parenting pregnant youth with 3926 02:04:29,711 --> 02:04:29,961 disabilities and high school 3927 02:04:31,511 --> 02:04:31,761 dropouts and we know that as a 3928 02:04:32,211 --> 02:04:32,461 local workforce board only 3929 02:04:33,977 --> 02:04:34,227 having the capacity to do 1000 3930 02:04:36,244 --> 02:04:36,494 that it takes a a coalition and 3931 02:04:39,777 --> 02:04:40,027 a partnerships in the community 3932 02:04:41,477 --> 02:04:41,727 to focus on serving those youth 3933 02:04:42,411 --> 02:04:42,661 who are most in need and and of 3934 02:04:43,977 --> 02:04:44,227 course we serve foster youth 3935 02:04:45,511 --> 02:04:45,761 this with the this is focused 3936 02:04:46,111 --> 02:04:46,361 about but I think it's important 3937 02:04:48,211 --> 02:04:48,461 for this committee to understand 3938 02:04:49,977 --> 02:04:50,227 that our legislation mandates us 3939 02:04:51,711 --> 02:04:51,961 to not just focus on foster 3940 02:04:53,744 --> 02:04:53,994 youth but youth facing 3941 02:04:54,277 --> 02:04:54,527 significant barriers to 3942 02:04:54,811 --> 02:04:55,061 employment 3943 02:04:57,711 --> 02:04:57,961 and so and that happens with 3944 02:04:58,611 --> 02:04:58,861 us through theloyingv 3945 02:04:59,044 --> 02:04:59,294 youthubwork. 3946 02:05:07,711 --> 02:05:07,961 the way that we engage youth 3947 02:05:10,011 --> 02:05:10,261 before they age out is through 3948 02:05:12,211 --> 02:05:12,461 our employee vi hub youth hub 3949 02:05:14,011 --> 02:05:14,261 network and just to mention a 3950 02:05:15,744 --> 02:05:15,994 few things that have happened 3951 02:05:16,377 --> 02:05:16,627 that I wanted to make sure this 3952 02:05:17,777 --> 02:05:18,027 committee was aware of is as far 3953 02:05:19,811 --> 02:05:20,061 as engagement with organizations 3954 02:05:22,077 --> 02:05:22,327 serving youth in the foster care 3955 02:05:24,044 --> 02:05:24,294 system about to age out 3956 02:05:25,544 --> 02:05:25,794 there's partnerships and 3957 02:05:26,311 --> 02:05:26,561 engagement with a monthly on a 3958 02:05:28,511 --> 02:05:28,761 monthly basis with Childhan to 3959 02:05:30,077 --> 02:05:30,327 provide career readiness 3960 02:05:31,811 --> 02:05:32,061 biweekly orientations with the 3961 02:05:32,477 --> 02:05:32,727 Clark County step upgrame 3962 02:05:35,744 --> 02:05:35,994 and then annual Clark County 3963 02:05:37,477 --> 02:05:37,727 Department of Familyervice 3964 02:05:39,644 --> 02:05:39,894 foster youth graduation outreach 3965 02:05:40,344 --> 02:05:40,594 that we are engaged in 3966 02:05:41,977 --> 02:05:42,227 there's a referral network 3967 02:05:43,977 --> 02:05:44,227 working with organizations 3968 02:05:46,044 --> 02:05:46,294 that refer foster youth to 3969 02:05:48,011 --> 02:05:48,261 the system and youth who are 3970 02:05:49,744 --> 02:05:49,994 about to age out and again a few 3971 02:05:50,477 --> 02:05:50,727 that are noted there is our 3972 02:05:52,244 --> 02:05:52,494 participation in the foster care 3973 02:05:52,911 --> 02:05:53,161 chamber on a quarterly basis 3974 02:05:56,244 --> 02:05:56,494 attending sheriff joy inhaler's 3975 02:05:58,244 --> 02:05:58,494 creation events and job fairs 3976 02:05:59,977 --> 02:06:00,227 working with a legal aid of 3977 02:06:01,744 --> 02:06:01,994 southern nevada I foster Eagle 3978 02:06:03,744 --> 02:06:03,994 Quest Olive Crest and we're 3979 02:06:04,444 --> 02:06:04,694 currently in the works to 3980 02:06:05,977 --> 02:06:06,227 partner with Saint Jude's rannch 3981 02:06:09,477 --> 02:06:09,727 to open a restaurant titled 3982 02:06:11,477 --> 02:06:11,727 the blooming Bistro where foster 3983 02:06:13,477 --> 02:06:13,727 youth who are there and are 3984 02:06:14,177 --> 02:06:14,427 about to age out and gain 3985 02:06:15,811 --> 02:06:16,061 workbased learning experiences 3986 02:06:19,777 --> 02:06:20,027 in our rural communities we 3987 02:06:21,744 --> 02:06:21,994 also haveloyingv youth hubs 3988 02:06:23,777 --> 02:06:24,027 where they work to serve foster 3989 02:06:24,444 --> 02:06:24,694 youth and those about to age out 3990 02:06:27,744 --> 02:06:27,994 Acor which is advocates for 3991 02:06:29,711 --> 02:06:29,961 children of rural Nevada is 3992 02:06:31,977 --> 02:06:32,227 ournight countunty employee the 3993 02:06:34,244 --> 02:06:34,494 youthhub partners with them 3994 02:06:35,744 --> 02:06:35,994 focused on youth who are about 3995 02:06:37,511 --> 02:06:37,761 to approach adulthood and 3996 02:06:39,511 --> 02:06:39,761 wanting to capture them before 3997 02:06:40,244 --> 02:06:40,494 they transition into adulthood 3998 02:06:42,244 --> 02:06:42,494 and out of services Knight 3999 02:06:43,977 --> 02:06:44,227 County school districtmcKinney 4000 02:06:45,977 --> 02:06:46,227 ento programme is a referral 4001 02:06:47,744 --> 02:06:47,994 partnership and one particular 4002 02:06:49,744 --> 02:06:49,994 focus there is to key in on 4003 02:06:50,377 --> 02:06:50,627 through the employment of a 4004 02:06:51,977 --> 02:06:52,227 youth hub in our rural community 4005 02:06:54,111 --> 02:06:54,361 on youth who've been abandoned 4006 02:06:54,777 --> 02:06:55,027 as they near the age of eight 4007 02:06:57,744 --> 02:06:57,994 and then as it notes here the 4008 02:06:59,777 --> 02:07:00,027 wrongwood Familysourceenter 4009 02:07:01,977 --> 02:07:02,227 where staff coordinates 4010 02:07:03,944 --> 02:07:04,194 co enrollment with workforce 4011 02:07:05,744 --> 02:07:05,994 programming and that's just them 4012 02:07:06,477 --> 02:07:06,727 doing their services and us 4013 02:07:07,677 --> 02:07:07,927 doing our part to provide 4014 02:07:08,244 --> 02:07:08,494 workforce development 4015 02:07:12,011 --> 02:07:12,261 couple key demographics of the 4016 02:07:14,044 --> 02:07:14,294 foster youth served again 4017 02:07:16,277 --> 02:07:16,527 they're noted there uh58% are 4018 02:07:17,677 --> 02:07:17,927 between the ages of 8 to 21 4019 02:07:21,477 --> 02:07:21,727 it notes the gender breakdown 4020 02:07:23,977 --> 02:07:24,227 uh39% or1f to17 then it notes 4021 02:07:25,777 --> 02:07:26,027 notes the ethnic breakdown 4022 02:07:27,777 --> 02:07:28,027 amongst whites African Americans 4023 02:07:29,511 --> 02:07:29,761 and Hispanics and then it knows 4024 02:07:30,244 --> 02:07:30,494 some of the barriers that 4025 02:07:32,011 --> 02:07:32,261 they've faced coming into the 4026 02:07:33,744 --> 02:07:33,994 weowa programme that we actually 4027 02:07:34,677 --> 02:07:34,927 capture100% of the population 4028 02:07:39,511 --> 02:07:39,761 is identified as lowincome and 4029 02:07:40,377 --> 02:07:40,627 or receiving public 4030 02:07:40,844 --> 02:07:41,094 assistance 4031 02:07:42,544 --> 02:07:42,794 I'll turn over to my colleague 4032 02:07:43,211 --> 02:07:43,461 Brett Miller. 4033 02:07:49,477 --> 02:07:49,727 So moving on to employment 4034 02:07:51,477 --> 02:07:51,727 placements and outcomes Wc 4035 02:07:53,677 --> 02:07:53,927 identified172 businesses were 4036 02:07:54,344 --> 02:07:54,594 foster youth 4037 02:07:58,244 --> 02:07:58,494 Oh Brett Miller for the record 4038 02:08:02,011 --> 02:08:02,261 Workforce nections WC 4039 02:08:04,244 --> 02:08:04,494 identified172 businesses where 4040 02:08:06,211 --> 02:08:06,461 foster youth and our system were 4041 02:08:08,011 --> 02:08:08,261 placed for employment secondcond 4042 02:08:10,277 --> 02:08:10,527 quarter employment was65.3% 4043 02:08:11,977 --> 02:08:12,227 which means they were employed 4044 02:08:15,477 --> 02:08:15,727 roughly6 months fourth 4045 02:08:18,277 --> 02:08:18,527 quarter was57.1% which is 4046 02:08:21,511 --> 02:08:21,761 equivalent to roughly a year and 4047 02:08:24,277 --> 02:08:24,527 median quarterly wages were3,524 4048 02:08:25,677 --> 02:08:25,927 dollarsy industry 4049 02:08:28,211 --> 02:08:28,461 the largest concentrations were 4050 02:08:31,511 --> 02:08:31,761 in retail35 businesses followed 4051 02:08:33,511 --> 02:08:33,761 by restaurants and food service 4052 02:08:35,744 --> 02:08:35,994 hospitality and gaming staffing 4053 02:08:38,244 --> 02:08:38,494 services healthcare, social 4054 02:08:39,977 --> 02:08:40,227 assistance and government 4055 02:08:40,544 --> 02:08:40,794 education and nonprofits. 4056 02:08:45,744 --> 02:08:45,994 top occupations included fast 4057 02:08:47,477 --> 02:08:47,727 food and counter workers 4058 02:08:49,711 --> 02:08:49,961 stockers and order fillers 4059 02:08:51,744 --> 02:08:51,994 cashiers, security guards retail 4060 02:08:53,511 --> 02:08:53,761 salespersons and customer 4061 02:08:56,011 --> 02:08:56,261 service representatives this 4062 02:08:57,477 --> 02:08:57,727 tells us where the placements 4063 02:08:59,777 --> 02:09:00,027 are landing largely entry 4064 02:09:01,977 --> 02:09:02,227 level service sector roles and 4065 02:09:03,511 --> 02:09:03,761 it's the baseline we used to 4066 02:09:05,611 --> 02:09:05,861 think about wage progression and 4067 02:09:06,277 --> 02:09:06,527 where to target training 4068 02:09:13,511 --> 02:09:13,761 So the next question that you 4069 02:09:15,511 --> 02:09:15,761 asked us from from this 4070 02:09:17,777 --> 02:09:18,027 committee had to do with 4071 02:09:20,277 --> 02:09:20,527 AB354 from the 2017 session 4072 02:09:22,277 --> 02:09:22,527 which you sponsored madam chair 4073 02:09:24,277 --> 02:09:24,527 and this bill required the 4074 02:09:25,744 --> 02:09:25,994 Department of Employment 4075 02:09:28,011 --> 02:09:28,261 Training andrehabilitation deer 4076 02:09:30,277 --> 02:09:30,527 to compile certain data in 4077 02:09:32,311 --> 02:09:32,561 relations to unemployment it 4078 02:09:34,044 --> 02:09:34,294 required agencies providing 4079 02:09:35,511 --> 02:09:35,761 workforce development to 4080 02:09:37,777 --> 02:09:38,027 coordinate efforts and resources 4081 02:09:39,544 --> 02:09:39,794 to reduce the unemployment rate 4082 02:09:40,177 --> 02:09:40,427 for certain demographic groups. 4083 02:09:41,077 --> 02:09:41,327 Mister Miller 4084 02:09:47,744 --> 02:09:47,994 so how does AB354 continue to 4085 02:09:49,777 --> 02:09:50,027 guide our workforce strategy 4086 02:09:52,344 --> 02:09:52,594 the report doesn't sit on its 4087 02:09:55,811 --> 02:09:56,061 own we use it alongside 4088 02:09:57,744 --> 02:09:57,994 laborbour's market information 4089 02:10:00,011 --> 02:10:00,261 employer demand and local 4090 02:10:01,777 --> 02:10:02,027 economic data and it drives a 4091 02:10:03,777 --> 02:10:04,027 specific sequence of decisions 4092 02:10:05,777 --> 02:10:06,027 we use it to identify 4093 02:10:06,477 --> 02:10:06,727 unemployment trends by 4094 02:10:06,911 --> 02:10:07,161 demographic group 4095 02:10:09,977 --> 02:10:10,227 that lets us prioritize 4096 02:10:12,044 --> 02:10:12,294 investment towards populations 4097 02:10:13,777 --> 02:10:14,027 with the highest barriers to 4098 02:10:16,044 --> 02:10:16,294 employment from there we align 4099 02:10:17,777 --> 02:10:18,027 our workforce investments with 4100 02:10:20,011 --> 02:10:20,261 the occupations and industries 4101 02:10:22,277 --> 02:10:22,527 where employer demand actually 4102 02:10:24,277 --> 02:10:24,527 exists and we use the geographic 4103 02:10:26,077 --> 02:10:26,327 data to decide where to locate 4104 02:10:28,277 --> 02:10:28,527 our employee in v hubs close to 4105 02:10:30,311 --> 02:10:30,561 where the need is not just where 4106 02:10:32,244 --> 02:10:32,494 it's convenient. We also factor 4107 02:10:34,011 --> 02:10:34,261 into how we select and 4108 02:10:36,044 --> 02:10:36,294 coordinate the service providers 4109 02:10:36,711 --> 02:10:36,961 we competitively procure 4110 02:10:39,744 --> 02:10:39,994 so they're capable of serving 4111 02:10:42,044 --> 02:10:42,294 the populations the data 4112 02:10:44,311 --> 02:10:44,561 flagsinally we track participant 4113 02:10:46,277 --> 02:10:46,527 outcomes against that same data 4114 02:10:46,944 --> 02:10:47,194 to find service gaps 4115 02:10:50,511 --> 02:10:50,761 and refine outreach and funding 4116 02:10:53,511 --> 02:10:53,761 priorities going forward so it 4117 02:10:55,744 --> 02:10:55,994 runs full loopstand the need 4118 02:10:57,977 --> 02:10:58,227 invest target services and 4119 02:10:58,577 --> 02:10:58,827 measure whether outcomes are 4120 02:10:59,144 --> 02:10:59,394 improving. 4121 02:11:04,277 --> 02:11:04,527 And then here's the third and 4122 02:11:07,511 --> 02:11:07,761 final question this one is 4123 02:11:09,711 --> 02:11:09,961 related to Ai and automation in 4124 02:11:12,011 --> 02:11:12,261 2024 when we presented to this 4125 02:11:13,811 --> 02:11:14,061 committee we were asked how 4126 02:11:15,511 --> 02:11:15,761 these two things were changing 4127 02:11:16,211 --> 02:11:16,461 the employment landscape 4128 02:11:19,744 --> 02:11:19,994 this time you wanted us to dig a 4129 02:11:20,511 --> 02:11:20,761 little deeper and talk about our 4130 02:11:23,511 --> 02:11:23,761 efforts to mitigate job losses 4131 02:11:25,977 --> 02:11:26,227 the number of state job loss 4132 02:11:29,477 --> 02:11:29,727 by automation the number of 4133 02:11:30,244 --> 02:11:30,494 private sector jobs we believe 4134 02:11:31,844 --> 02:11:32,094 have been lost in future 4135 02:11:32,411 --> 02:11:32,661 strategy 4136 02:11:37,511 --> 02:11:37,761 So with regards to mitigating 4137 02:11:38,511 --> 02:11:38,761 job placement from Ai and 4138 02:11:40,277 --> 02:11:40,527 automation our approach here 4139 02:11:42,011 --> 02:11:42,261 centers on investing in employer 4140 02:11:44,211 --> 02:11:44,461 identified training rather than 4141 02:11:45,977 --> 02:11:46,227 workforce connections 4142 02:11:47,977 --> 02:11:48,227 prescribing which Ai skills 4143 02:11:50,477 --> 02:11:50,727 matter we do that through two 4144 02:11:53,744 --> 02:11:53,994 channels industry sector 4145 02:11:55,744 --> 02:11:55,994 partnerships convene employers 4146 02:11:57,744 --> 02:11:57,994 in our regions target growth 4147 02:11:59,844 --> 02:12:00,094 sectors to identify emerging 4148 02:12:00,411 --> 02:12:00,661 workforce needs 4149 02:12:04,211 --> 02:12:04,461 skill gaps and technological 4150 02:12:07,511 --> 02:12:07,761 change which supports proactive 4151 02:12:09,511 --> 02:12:09,761 preparation before a job 4152 02:12:10,477 --> 02:12:10,727 requirement shifts out from 4153 02:12:12,211 --> 02:12:12,461 under someone incumbent worker 4154 02:12:15,744 --> 02:12:15,994 training previously funded 4155 02:12:17,744 --> 02:12:17,994 employer led upskilling of 4156 02:12:19,744 --> 02:12:19,994 current employees that function 4157 02:12:21,477 --> 02:12:21,727 continues to be funded through 4158 02:12:22,444 --> 02:12:22,694 through Deeter and workforce 4159 02:12:23,877 --> 02:12:24,127 connections as worker upskilling 4160 02:12:27,711 --> 02:12:27,961 bothth are built to help workers 4161 02:12:29,711 --> 02:12:29,961 retain employment and stay 4162 02:12:32,044 --> 02:12:32,294 competitive as new technology 4163 02:12:32,711 --> 02:12:32,961 enters our workforce. 4164 02:12:36,211 --> 02:12:36,461 their workplace summarizing we 4165 02:12:39,477 --> 02:12:39,727 don't set the Ai skills agenda 4166 02:12:41,477 --> 02:12:41,727 employers do. Our role is to 4167 02:12:42,211 --> 02:12:42,461 fund the upskilling and 4168 02:12:43,977 --> 02:12:44,227 reskilling they tell us their 4169 02:12:45,711 --> 02:12:45,961 workers need to adapt 4170 02:12:48,211 --> 02:12:48,461 stay employed and advances 4171 02:12:49,677 --> 02:12:49,927 the technology changes around 4172 02:12:50,344 --> 02:12:50,594 them 4173 02:12:55,744 --> 02:12:55,994 With regards to job loss 4174 02:12:58,277 --> 02:12:58,527 estimates the committee asked 4175 02:13:00,044 --> 02:13:00,294 for two specific figures the 4176 02:13:02,244 --> 02:13:02,494 numbers state jobs lost to Ai 4177 02:13:03,977 --> 02:13:04,227 and automation and the number of 4178 02:13:05,977 --> 02:13:06,227 private sector jobs believed 4179 02:13:08,011 --> 02:13:08,261 lost broken out by lower skill 4180 02:13:10,277 --> 02:13:10,527 and professional occupations 4181 02:13:12,277 --> 02:13:12,527 we're not going to offer any 4182 02:13:15,511 --> 02:13:15,761 estimates to this number Dieter 4183 02:13:17,511 --> 02:13:17,761 research and analysis is the 4184 02:13:19,477 --> 02:13:19,727 appropriate source for statewide 4185 02:13:20,544 --> 02:13:20,794 job loss data of this kind and 4186 02:13:21,877 --> 02:13:22,127 that's where those figures 4187 02:13:22,411 --> 02:13:22,661 should come from. 4188 02:13:24,244 --> 02:13:24,494 we'd rather appoint the 4189 02:13:26,444 --> 02:13:26,694 committee to the agency position 4190 02:13:27,177 --> 02:13:27,427 to produce a reliable number. 4191 02:13:32,011 --> 02:13:32,261 And then moving on to future 4192 02:13:34,244 --> 02:13:34,494 strategies to help Nevadans work 4193 02:13:35,644 --> 02:13:35,894 alongside AI 4194 02:13:40,211 --> 02:13:40,461 hre basic strategies going 4195 02:13:43,977 --> 02:13:44,227 forward first build Ai ready 4196 02:13:46,211 --> 02:13:46,461 skills short term industry 4197 02:13:49,477 --> 02:13:49,727 recogd training in AI literacy 4198 02:13:50,477 --> 02:13:50,727 data analysis, prompt 4199 02:13:52,277 --> 02:13:52,527 engineering and digital workflow 4200 02:13:55,511 --> 02:13:55,761 tools and expand the capacity of 4201 02:13:57,511 --> 02:13:57,761 training providers in our region 4202 02:13:59,511 --> 02:13:59,761 to actually deliver these basic 4203 02:14:00,177 --> 02:14:00,427 AI skills training 4204 02:14:03,977 --> 02:14:04,227 secondcond we'd augment workers 4205 02:14:06,211 --> 02:14:06,461 rather than replace them we use 4206 02:14:08,011 --> 02:14:08,261 industry sector partnerships to 4207 02:14:09,977 --> 02:14:10,227 identify productivity gains from 4208 02:14:12,311 --> 02:14:12,561 AI that let employers retain 4209 02:14:12,977 --> 02:14:13,227 their workforce 4210 02:14:15,744 --> 02:14:15,994 and we push for jobs to be 4211 02:14:17,744 --> 02:14:17,994 redesigned towards customer 4212 02:14:19,511 --> 02:14:19,761 service critical thinking and 4213 02:14:20,211 --> 02:14:20,461 relationship management the 4214 02:14:22,344 --> 02:14:22,594 things that AI still doesn't do 4215 02:14:23,077 --> 02:14:23,327 very well 4216 02:14:26,211 --> 02:14:26,461 while the incorporating AI into 4217 02:14:29,744 --> 02:14:29,994 workflows in ways that worker 4218 02:14:30,577 --> 02:14:30,827 productivity rather than that 4219 02:14:34,244 --> 02:14:34,494 enhances the worker productivity 4220 02:14:35,011 --> 02:14:35,261 rather than eliminates workers 4221 02:14:37,944 --> 02:14:38,194 Third 4222 02:14:41,477 --> 02:14:41,727 proactively anticipate change. 4223 02:14:43,744 --> 02:14:43,994 we use labor market information 4224 02:14:44,577 --> 02:14:44,827 employer surveys and analytics 4225 02:14:49,477 --> 02:14:49,727 to identify occupations that 4226 02:14:50,111 --> 02:14:50,361 carry the greatest automation 4227 02:14:50,711 --> 02:14:50,961 risk 4228 02:14:53,744 --> 02:14:53,994 and we target early retaining 4229 02:14:55,944 --> 02:14:56,194 retraining towards pathways 4230 02:14:57,944 --> 02:14:58,194 where demand is strong before 4231 02:14:59,811 --> 02:15:00,061 displacement happens not after 4232 02:15:03,744 --> 02:15:03,994 so basically skills redesigned 4233 02:15:05,644 --> 02:15:05,894 jobs and early warning that 4234 02:15:06,211 --> 02:15:06,461 would be the strategy 4235 02:15:12,544 --> 02:15:12,794 Thank you madam chair and 4236 02:15:13,511 --> 02:15:13,761 committee members we 4237 02:15:14,244 --> 02:15:14,494 appreciate each one of you for 4238 02:15:16,244 --> 02:15:16,494 your service to this 4239 02:15:18,244 --> 02:15:18,494 community and to the state and 4240 02:15:20,277 --> 02:15:20,527 thank you also for allowing us 4241 02:15:21,977 --> 02:15:22,227 to share our work and we are 4242 02:15:22,577 --> 02:15:22,827 ready for any questions you may 4243 02:15:23,244 --> 02:15:23,494 have. 4244 02:15:26,144 --> 02:15:26,394 OK. thank you for that.embers 4245 02:15:26,811 --> 02:15:27,061 any questions? 4246 02:15:30,177 --> 02:15:30,427 OK I do. so on 4247 02:15:32,311 --> 02:15:32,561 question two 4248 02:15:36,044 --> 02:15:36,294 well no let me start with 4249 02:15:37,777 --> 02:15:38,027 question one on the foster youth 4250 02:15:39,777 --> 02:15:40,027 so I'll so I'll explain and I 4251 02:15:41,777 --> 02:15:42,027 and I know that in the 4252 02:15:44,277 --> 02:15:44,527 presentation you mentioned 4253 02:15:45,744 --> 02:15:45,994 you know we just don't focus on 4254 02:15:47,644 --> 02:15:47,894 foster youth which which I 4255 02:15:48,211 --> 02:15:48,461 understand that too 4256 02:15:50,111 --> 02:15:50,361 so 4257 02:15:53,744 --> 02:15:53,994 I would say about well two 4258 02:15:55,744 --> 02:15:55,994 things that are driving this 4259 02:15:57,477 --> 02:15:57,727 conversation so about I would 4260 02:16:00,077 --> 02:16:00,327 say about two years ago I went 4261 02:16:00,777 --> 02:16:01,027 through and I looked at 4262 02:16:03,511 --> 02:16:03,761 all of the workforce reports 4263 02:16:06,144 --> 02:16:06,394 from 2012 forward, right and one 4264 02:16:06,844 --> 02:16:07,094 of the 4265 02:16:09,811 --> 02:16:10,061 groups that consistently stayed 4266 02:16:11,744 --> 02:16:11,994 in outside of veterans was 4267 02:16:14,011 --> 02:16:14,261 foster youth so year over year 4268 02:16:15,744 --> 02:16:15,994 for every workforce report 4269 02:16:17,777 --> 02:16:18,027 foster youth were still the 4270 02:16:20,011 --> 02:16:20,261 category that seemed to be the 4271 02:16:21,777 --> 02:16:22,027 most challenging and seemed to 4272 02:16:24,011 --> 02:16:24,261 be a group that was 4273 02:16:26,444 --> 02:16:26,694 constantly constantly in need of 4274 02:16:27,144 --> 02:16:27,394 employment services right? 4275 02:16:30,344 --> 02:16:30,594 Second thing that drew this 4276 02:16:30,911 --> 02:16:31,161 conversation 4277 02:16:35,744 --> 02:16:35,994 few months ago I was invited 4278 02:16:37,977 --> 02:16:38,227 to meet foster children who were 4279 02:16:41,744 --> 02:16:41,994 aging out I was invited by a 4280 02:16:44,011 --> 02:16:44,261 her name wasarraRaines who 4281 02:16:46,011 --> 02:16:46,261 you know been taking children 4282 02:16:47,977 --> 02:16:48,227 out and we met and it was a 4283 02:16:49,777 --> 02:16:50,027 whole like you know meet a 4284 02:16:50,377 --> 02:16:50,627 senator or whatever at a bowling 4285 02:16:51,044 --> 02:16:51,294 alley 4286 02:16:52,511 --> 02:16:52,761 and 4287 02:16:58,044 --> 02:16:58,294 as they were the young girls 4288 02:17:00,044 --> 02:17:00,294 were talking to me was is a mix 4289 02:17:00,744 --> 02:17:00,994 of Latino and black girls 4290 02:17:04,277 --> 02:17:04,527 they you know one group was 4291 02:17:06,011 --> 02:17:06,261 talking to me about politics 4292 02:17:08,244 --> 02:17:08,494 which were the Latino females 4293 02:17:09,977 --> 02:17:10,227 then the black girls were 4294 02:17:12,211 --> 02:17:12,461 talking to me about how the 4295 02:17:12,777 --> 02:17:13,027 system was you know 4296 02:17:14,744 --> 02:17:14,994 not necessarily nice to them. 4297 02:17:19,744 --> 02:17:19,994 one of the adults was worried 4298 02:17:21,511 --> 02:17:21,761 that one of the girls who was 4299 02:17:24,011 --> 02:17:24,261 aging out that her only job 4300 02:17:25,511 --> 02:17:25,761 opportunity was going to be 4301 02:17:26,377 --> 02:17:26,627 either to be sex trafficked or 4302 02:17:28,111 --> 02:17:28,361 prostitute 4303 02:17:30,711 --> 02:17:30,961 and I was like well why would 4304 02:17:31,377 --> 02:17:31,627 that be an outcome? 4305 02:17:34,277 --> 02:17:34,527 aren't isn't she in workforce 4306 02:17:36,311 --> 02:17:36,561 programs I mean we know that 4307 02:17:37,777 --> 02:17:38,027 she's getting ready to get a 4308 02:17:38,377 --> 02:17:38,627 high school 4309 02:17:40,377 --> 02:17:40,627 why haven't we put things in 4310 02:17:41,044 --> 02:17:41,294 place 4311 02:17:44,044 --> 02:17:44,294 so of course I reached out to 4312 02:17:46,244 --> 02:17:46,494 the county we had a series of 4313 02:17:48,277 --> 02:17:48,527 conversations on like why is why 4314 02:17:50,244 --> 02:17:50,494 does this conversation exists 4315 02:17:52,211 --> 02:17:52,461 because it should not exist. I 4316 02:17:52,911 --> 02:17:53,161 should not be a 4317 02:17:58,111 --> 02:17:58,361 faced with a dialogue where I'm 4318 02:17:58,811 --> 02:17:59,061 trying to figure out 4319 02:18:03,511 --> 02:18:03,761 why a 18 year old girl and then 4320 02:18:06,244 --> 02:18:06,494 another schimed in saying that 4321 02:18:07,777 --> 02:18:08,027 they had not had any 4322 02:18:08,177 --> 02:18:08,427 opportunities 4323 02:18:12,211 --> 02:18:12,461 for workforce then I found out 4324 02:18:15,777 --> 02:18:16,027 that the county I guess had 4325 02:18:19,511 --> 02:18:19,761 offered them jobb corp right and 4326 02:18:21,744 --> 02:18:21,994 then the girl didn't accept 4327 02:18:23,977 --> 02:18:24,227 jobborp which is in Reno because 4328 02:18:25,977 --> 02:18:26,227 she lives in Vegas so why would 4329 02:18:28,011 --> 02:18:28,261 a child move from her current 4330 02:18:31,511 --> 02:18:31,761 environment and go to Reno to a 4331 02:18:32,244 --> 02:18:32,494 place where she doesn't know 4332 02:18:33,744 --> 02:18:33,994 she's already a foster youth, 4333 02:18:35,744 --> 02:18:35,994 which means she has limited 4334 02:18:37,711 --> 02:18:37,961 family contact so whoever her 4335 02:18:38,377 --> 02:18:38,627 contacts are are her friends 4336 02:18:38,944 --> 02:18:39,194 right 4337 02:18:41,477 --> 02:18:41,727 the circle of influence which 4338 02:18:42,544 --> 02:18:42,794 happened to be other18 and17 4339 02:18:43,211 --> 02:18:43,461 yearold girls. 4340 02:18:47,744 --> 02:18:47,994 so it got me on this rabbit hole 4341 02:18:49,511 --> 02:18:49,761 right because I was just like 4342 02:18:51,744 --> 02:18:51,994 well the data says this is a 4343 02:18:54,011 --> 02:18:54,261 constant group that is a in 4344 02:18:55,977 --> 02:18:56,227 constant need of services so I 4345 02:18:57,711 --> 02:18:57,961 wanted to ask the question where 4346 02:18:58,444 --> 02:18:58,694 are they going 4347 02:19:00,311 --> 02:19:00,561 and then my conversation with 4348 02:19:02,311 --> 02:19:02,561 the county you know I started 4349 02:19:05,511 --> 02:19:05,761 asking like oh you know what 4350 02:19:06,277 --> 02:19:06,527 about you know the virtual 4351 02:19:07,977 --> 02:19:08,227 reality goggles causez I 4352 02:19:08,577 --> 02:19:08,827 remember when that was presented 4353 02:19:11,511 --> 02:19:11,761 in there at the libraries right 4354 02:19:13,511 --> 02:19:13,761 and then they were like oh I 4355 02:19:14,177 --> 02:19:14,427 didn't know about that and I was 4356 02:19:16,211 --> 02:19:16,461 just like how is that not 4357 02:19:18,211 --> 02:19:18,461 possible that it's unknowown 4358 02:19:20,477 --> 02:19:20,727 that you know Br goggles are out 4359 02:19:23,544 --> 02:19:23,794 here right that had been over 4360 02:19:26,011 --> 02:19:26,261 four years it was precovid or it 4361 02:19:27,911 --> 02:19:28,161 became a real thing in covid 4362 02:19:28,577 --> 02:19:28,827 like how do you 4363 02:19:31,511 --> 02:19:31,761 get a real life experience on 4364 02:19:33,777 --> 02:19:34,027 job work by using thevR goggles 4365 02:19:35,511 --> 02:19:35,761 causez I distinctly remember 4366 02:19:37,744 --> 02:19:37,994 when Dideter came in asking for 4367 02:19:39,511 --> 02:19:39,761 the money the library in North 4368 02:19:40,244 --> 02:19:40,494 Las Vegas was saying oh we're 4369 02:19:41,511 --> 02:19:41,761 going to put this in our 4370 02:19:43,511 --> 02:19:43,761 libraries and we were like ok 4371 02:19:44,377 --> 02:19:44,627 cool we'll give you the money to 4372 02:19:45,077 --> 02:19:45,327 pay for it. 4373 02:19:49,511 --> 02:19:49,761 so it started this conversation 4374 02:19:50,244 --> 02:19:50,494 because either there is a gap 4375 02:19:55,477 --> 02:19:55,727 or the vendor who is receiving 4376 02:19:56,177 --> 02:19:56,427 money right to do x 4377 02:19:59,644 --> 02:19:59,894 is not connecting with these 4378 02:20:00,311 --> 02:20:00,561 children, right? 4379 02:20:03,511 --> 02:20:03,761 and I don't know if you guys 4380 02:20:04,244 --> 02:20:04,494 were at the recent event at 4381 02:20:05,977 --> 02:20:06,227 Childhaven cause I didn't check 4382 02:20:07,511 --> 02:20:07,761 all the tables you might have 4383 02:20:09,977 --> 02:20:10,227 been where SEIU took it upon 4384 02:20:10,644 --> 02:20:10,894 themselves to then host 4385 02:20:12,544 --> 02:20:12,794 a career fair 4386 02:20:17,511 --> 02:20:17,761 to then bring I think over 20 4387 02:20:19,744 --> 02:20:19,994 different partners into the 4388 02:20:20,577 --> 02:20:20,827 juvenile justice Jim 4389 02:20:24,011 --> 02:20:24,261 to meet the childldhaven 4390 02:20:27,511 --> 02:20:27,761 students and also to meet the 4391 02:20:28,311 --> 02:20:28,561 students that are within 4392 02:20:31,511 --> 02:20:31,761 juvenile justice that may also 4393 02:20:32,177 --> 02:20:32,427 be incarcerated not 4394 02:20:33,844 --> 02:20:34,094 childldhaven 4395 02:20:37,511 --> 02:20:37,761 and from my understanding this 4396 02:20:39,777 --> 02:20:40,027 was like the first time that 4397 02:20:41,777 --> 02:20:42,027 there had been a major event 4398 02:20:45,477 --> 02:20:45,727 where 20 different career 4399 02:20:48,011 --> 02:20:48,261 vendors had came into that space 4400 02:20:50,077 --> 02:20:50,327 to then talk about what you can 4401 02:20:50,811 --> 02:20:51,061 be right? 4402 02:20:52,944 --> 02:20:53,194 so of course 4403 02:20:57,977 --> 02:20:58,227 me being me right? I wanted to 4404 02:20:59,744 --> 02:20:59,994 get on the record what is the 4405 02:21:01,511 --> 02:21:01,761 work that's being done number 4406 02:21:03,511 --> 02:21:03,761 one because if anybody out there 4407 02:21:04,211 --> 02:21:04,461 that's a government agency 4408 02:21:05,677 --> 02:21:05,927 whether or not it be 4409 02:21:10,011 --> 02:21:10,261 or subdivision within a agency 4410 02:21:13,511 --> 02:21:13,761 or subdepartment within a 4411 02:21:15,844 --> 02:21:16,094 city is saying oh I don't know 4412 02:21:17,844 --> 02:21:18,094 what services are there 4413 02:21:21,811 --> 02:21:22,061 I can then point to this 4414 02:21:23,511 --> 02:21:23,761 legislative record to be like 4415 02:21:25,744 --> 02:21:25,994 well you just got a listing from 4416 02:21:28,044 --> 02:21:28,294 not everyone but majority who 4417 02:21:30,277 --> 02:21:30,527 are vendors or who are giving 4418 02:21:33,744 --> 02:21:33,994 contracts to vendors on what is 4419 02:21:35,477 --> 02:21:35,727 available right? because I 4420 02:21:36,477 --> 02:21:36,727 should never have a conversation 4421 02:21:38,411 --> 02:21:38,661 where the option is prostitution 4422 02:21:42,244 --> 02:21:42,494 and there was no conversation on 4423 02:21:44,011 --> 02:21:44,261 whether or not you can be 4424 02:21:47,977 --> 02:21:48,227 something else right and so just 4425 02:21:48,677 --> 02:21:48,927 to give you the background and 4426 02:21:50,011 --> 02:21:50,261 yeah of course you guys have met 4427 02:21:51,744 --> 02:21:51,994 me before I get really 4428 02:21:53,744 --> 02:21:53,994 passionate on social community 4429 02:21:55,944 --> 02:21:56,194 issues because I spend my days 4430 02:21:59,477 --> 02:21:59,727 in the community and for 4431 02:22:00,444 --> 02:22:00,694 whatever reason I get found in 4432 02:22:03,544 --> 02:22:03,794 in spaces that I never imagined 4433 02:22:04,277 --> 02:22:04,527 I would be in right cause even 4434 02:22:05,811 --> 02:22:06,061 when I was sitting in the 4435 02:22:07,744 --> 02:22:07,994 bowling alley at ed rock I was 4436 02:22:08,711 --> 02:22:08,961 my sister was with me she's a 4437 02:22:09,377 --> 02:22:09,627 pharmacist and I was just like 4438 02:22:11,111 --> 02:22:11,361 did I just get 4439 02:22:14,244 --> 02:22:14,494 handed a set of problems that I 4440 02:22:18,011 --> 02:22:18,261 may not be ready to shoulder 4441 02:22:20,244 --> 02:22:20,494 and walk around you know and try 4442 02:22:23,511 --> 02:22:23,761 to solve right because of course 4443 02:22:24,477 --> 02:22:24,727 if a problem is presented to me 4444 02:22:27,744 --> 02:22:27,994 right a real human scale problem 4445 02:22:30,011 --> 02:22:30,261 my heart goes out and I want to 4446 02:22:31,977 --> 02:22:32,227 fix it right? I want to engage I 4447 02:22:34,211 --> 02:22:34,461 want to use whatever limited 4448 02:22:34,877 --> 02:22:35,127 power I have 4449 02:22:38,511 --> 02:22:38,761 to convene conversations around 4450 02:22:39,177 --> 02:22:39,427 the issue. 4451 02:22:43,777 --> 02:22:44,027 and workforce is one of the 4452 02:22:44,344 --> 02:22:44,594 issues that is a topic in 4453 02:22:44,877 --> 02:22:45,127 revenue. 4454 02:22:48,411 --> 02:22:48,661 so with that background that is 4455 02:22:51,744 --> 02:22:51,994 why I ask question one. so for 4456 02:22:52,344 --> 02:22:52,594 everybody else who's gonna come 4457 02:22:53,977 --> 02:22:54,227 to this table and present now 4458 02:22:55,877 --> 02:22:56,127 you know why I was asking 4459 02:22:56,444 --> 02:22:56,694 question one 4460 02:23:01,911 --> 02:23:02,161 and so hopefully you know we can 4461 02:23:02,611 --> 02:23:02,861 build a record of 4462 02:23:06,244 --> 02:23:06,494 if I talk to anybody next year 4463 02:23:08,244 --> 02:23:08,494 while I spend the next six years 4464 02:23:10,277 --> 02:23:10,527 of my reality potentially in 4465 02:23:12,011 --> 02:23:12,261 this in the legislature that I 4466 02:23:13,977 --> 02:23:14,227 will not be faced with this 4467 02:23:14,544 --> 02:23:14,794 question again right? 4468 02:23:17,977 --> 02:23:18,227 because now everyone should 4469 02:23:20,011 --> 02:23:20,261 align themselves to the services 4470 02:23:21,544 --> 02:23:21,794 that were listed in this 4471 02:23:22,111 --> 02:23:22,361 document and get yourself 4472 02:23:22,711 --> 02:23:22,961 together. 4473 02:23:25,977 --> 02:23:26,227 and figure out how to get 4474 02:23:28,244 --> 02:23:28,494 young girls and boys who are 4475 02:23:30,244 --> 02:23:30,494 aging out of the foster system 4476 02:23:33,511 --> 02:23:33,761 successfully employed and at 4477 02:23:34,111 --> 02:23:34,361 least provide them the 4478 02:23:34,677 --> 02:23:34,927 opportunity to imagine 4479 02:23:38,044 --> 02:23:38,294 that they can have a better life 4480 02:23:40,177 --> 02:23:40,427 and a career 4481 02:23:41,711 --> 02:23:41,961 and that's the 4482 02:23:47,511 --> 02:23:47,761 Thank you madam chairir. I love 4483 02:23:49,511 --> 02:23:49,761 the question and I appreciate 4484 02:23:50,244 --> 02:23:50,494 your passion because you're 4485 02:23:53,511 --> 02:23:53,761 fiercely an advocate for things 4486 02:23:56,244 --> 02:23:56,494 that need to come to fruition 4487 02:24:00,211 --> 02:24:00,461 so my colleague Ricardo 4488 02:24:02,011 --> 02:24:02,261 Villaloboso and start the 4489 02:24:03,744 --> 02:24:03,994 conversation yeah thank you 4490 02:24:04,477 --> 02:24:04,727 Ireneiccardo Vilos for the 4491 02:24:06,044 --> 02:24:06,294 record and and I want ditto that 4492 02:24:08,011 --> 02:24:08,261 madam chairir thank you for 4493 02:24:09,777 --> 02:24:10,027 caring you know about our young 4494 02:24:11,844 --> 02:24:12,094 people and for the committee you 4495 02:24:12,511 --> 02:24:12,761 know caring about our young 4496 02:24:13,077 --> 02:24:13,327 people 4497 02:24:15,511 --> 02:24:15,761 I mean I think as I mentioned 4498 02:24:18,011 --> 02:24:18,261 to you there's36,000 4499 02:24:18,711 --> 02:24:18,961 disconnected young people in 4500 02:24:19,344 --> 02:24:19,594 Cclark County alone 4501 02:24:22,277 --> 02:24:22,527 our funds are finite you know we 4502 02:24:25,811 --> 02:24:26,061 serve 1000 as I said60 to700 per 4503 02:24:26,477 --> 02:24:26,727 year but it's barely a dent 4504 02:24:29,511 --> 02:24:29,761 we've started to convene a 4505 02:24:31,744 --> 02:24:31,994 coalition of partners that is 4506 02:24:32,411 --> 02:24:32,661 the opportunity youth coalition 4507 02:24:35,777 --> 02:24:36,027 and basically they are partners 4508 02:24:37,511 --> 02:24:37,761 that are serving in the youth 4509 02:24:38,444 --> 02:24:38,694 space now not all of them are 4510 02:24:40,277 --> 02:24:40,527 foster care centric you know but 4511 02:24:45,977 --> 02:24:46,227 eagle Quest i oster 4512 02:24:47,744 --> 02:24:47,994 some others partners you know 4513 02:24:48,377 --> 02:24:48,627 that are in the foster care 4514 02:24:49,977 --> 02:24:50,227 space are there they're not 4515 02:24:50,577 --> 02:24:50,827 necessarily funded partners from 4516 02:24:51,744 --> 02:24:51,994 us but they're doing their 4517 02:24:52,344 --> 02:24:52,594 things in their space we we 4518 02:24:54,277 --> 02:24:54,527 don't direct them or tell them 4519 02:24:55,777 --> 02:24:56,027 or have accountability with them 4520 02:24:56,477 --> 02:24:56,727 they're they're partners part of 4521 02:24:57,144 --> 02:24:57,394 the coalition 4522 02:24:59,511 --> 02:24:59,761 so we're definitely trying to do 4523 02:25:01,477 --> 02:25:01,727 what we can for the36000 as a 4524 02:25:02,544 --> 02:25:02,794 whole, right? I think as far as 4525 02:25:04,111 --> 02:25:04,361 young people not hearing about 4526 02:25:04,777 --> 02:25:05,027 it 4527 02:25:08,011 --> 02:25:08,261 you know we have over 27 4528 02:25:10,011 --> 02:25:10,261 American job centers branded as 4529 02:25:11,777 --> 02:25:12,027 employing the hubs in southern 4530 02:25:12,477 --> 02:25:12,727 Nevada region that's you 4531 02:25:14,244 --> 02:25:14,494 knowlinncoln niasorrell and 4532 02:25:16,211 --> 02:25:16,461 Clark County we we have a 4533 02:25:18,244 --> 02:25:18,494 presence in in various 4534 02:25:19,677 --> 02:25:19,927 communities as my colleague 4535 02:25:20,244 --> 02:25:20,494 Brett mentioned earlier 4536 02:25:21,644 --> 02:25:21,894 there's no dearth 4537 02:25:25,811 --> 02:25:26,061 we could if we had more funding 4538 02:25:27,511 --> 02:25:27,761 if I'll just be frank if the 4539 02:25:28,311 --> 02:25:28,561 state provided us funding and 4540 02:25:30,077 --> 02:25:30,327 wanted us to specifically key in 4541 02:25:30,811 --> 02:25:31,061 on foster youth we would gladly 4542 02:25:32,311 --> 02:25:32,561 do that 4543 02:25:33,544 --> 02:25:33,794 if the say says we want you to 4544 02:25:34,244 --> 02:25:34,494 focus on juvenile justice youth 4545 02:25:36,144 --> 02:25:36,394 we would gladly do that we're 4546 02:25:36,744 --> 02:25:36,994 barely scratching the surface 4547 02:25:41,377 --> 02:25:41,627 and so we we've never been 4548 02:25:42,144 --> 02:25:42,394 under enrolled you know we've 4549 02:25:43,877 --> 02:25:44,127 never a matter of fact we 4550 02:25:45,611 --> 02:25:45,861 tend to over enroll our young 4551 02:25:47,911 --> 02:25:48,161 people in programming as I 4552 02:25:49,844 --> 02:25:50,094 mentioned just for foster youth 4553 02:25:51,744 --> 02:25:51,994 the things we're engaged in 4554 02:25:53,444 --> 02:25:53,694 the referral partner network is 4555 02:25:54,244 --> 02:25:54,494 just specific to foster youth 4556 02:25:54,811 --> 02:25:55,061 that I noted in this 4557 02:25:55,244 --> 02:25:55,494 presentation 4558 02:25:58,144 --> 02:25:58,394 but it's also with a juvenile 4559 02:26:00,311 --> 02:26:00,561 justice youth homeless youth 4560 02:26:03,544 --> 02:26:03,794 the the the barriers of popula 4561 02:26:05,511 --> 02:26:05,761 or the populations that face 4562 02:26:07,577 --> 02:26:07,827 these significant barriers and 4563 02:26:09,811 --> 02:26:10,061 so we do get the word out 4564 02:26:11,577 --> 02:26:11,827 will you come across an 4565 02:26:12,044 --> 02:26:12,294 individual that has not heard 4566 02:26:14,211 --> 02:26:14,461 about it absolutely you know 4567 02:26:15,977 --> 02:26:16,227 absolutely I'd love to get the 4568 02:26:18,244 --> 02:26:18,494 word out to36000 young people 4569 02:26:19,544 --> 02:26:19,794 and a matter of fact the 4570 02:26:20,011 --> 02:26:20,261 workforce connections were 4571 02:26:22,344 --> 02:26:22,594 bringing on two young people to 4572 02:26:23,044 --> 02:26:23,294 be content creators 4573 02:26:25,744 --> 02:26:25,994 to specifically target 4574 02:26:27,477 --> 02:26:27,727 through social media platforms 4575 02:26:29,477 --> 02:26:29,727 or outreach to young people is 4576 02:26:30,077 --> 02:26:30,327 that kind of idea by young 4577 02:26:30,644 --> 02:26:30,894 people for young people by young 4578 02:26:31,311 --> 02:26:31,561 people 4579 02:26:35,477 --> 02:26:35,727 and so and not that you know 4580 02:26:36,077 --> 02:26:36,327 folks in our generation you'd be 4581 02:26:37,711 --> 02:26:37,961 doing that stuff but we want the 4582 02:26:38,444 --> 02:26:38,694 young people doing that and we 4583 02:26:39,644 --> 02:26:39,894 do believe the war needs to get 4584 02:26:40,344 --> 02:26:40,594 out but 4585 02:26:42,544 --> 02:26:42,794 unfortunately there will be a 4586 02:26:44,011 --> 02:26:44,261 time when we reach our cap and 4587 02:26:45,744 --> 02:26:45,994 our funds are finite, you know 4588 02:26:47,844 --> 02:26:48,094 we would love to do more and 4589 02:26:48,444 --> 02:26:48,694 we're working with 4590 02:26:50,377 --> 02:26:50,627 various organizations to try to 4591 02:26:51,044 --> 02:26:51,294 bring in additional funding 4592 02:26:54,277 --> 02:26:54,527 but if we were given funding and 4593 02:26:55,744 --> 02:26:55,994 instead specifically focus on 4594 02:26:56,344 --> 02:26:56,594 foster youth again I want to be 4595 02:26:57,644 --> 02:26:57,894 clear we would gladly willingly 4596 02:27:02,011 --> 02:27:02,261 And if I can add madam chair for 4597 02:27:03,744 --> 02:27:03,994 the record I renebootamante 4598 02:27:05,744 --> 02:27:05,994 adams. I think that paints the 4599 02:27:07,477 --> 02:27:07,727 picture right so that you know 4600 02:27:08,244 --> 02:27:08,494 that those funds that we owe 4601 02:27:10,011 --> 02:27:10,261 with funds are federal dollars 4602 02:27:14,277 --> 02:27:14,527 are threshold is000 young adults 4603 02:27:18,311 --> 02:27:18,561 that's not even enough but 4604 02:27:20,311 --> 02:27:20,561 strategically and you're going 4605 02:27:21,977 --> 02:27:22,227 to hear from Clark County later 4606 02:27:24,277 --> 02:27:24,527 on they approached us to do 4607 02:27:27,511 --> 02:27:27,761 some pilot around a career 4608 02:27:29,677 --> 02:27:29,927 pathways and so we are ending 4609 02:27:30,311 --> 02:27:30,561 that pilot 4610 02:27:32,277 --> 02:27:32,527 and we'll have a report for 4611 02:27:34,011 --> 02:27:34,261 them by the end of this year on 4612 02:27:36,011 --> 02:27:36,261 the success of our efforts and 4613 02:27:38,011 --> 02:27:38,261 that's intentional it wasn't 4614 02:27:39,744 --> 02:27:39,994 that it was mandated it wasn't 4615 02:27:42,211 --> 02:27:42,461 in the legislature but it was 4616 02:27:44,011 --> 02:27:44,261 just intentional picking up the 4617 02:27:45,744 --> 02:27:45,994 phone and calling and saying how 4618 02:27:47,977 --> 02:27:48,227 could we if we if they made that 4619 02:27:50,044 --> 02:27:50,294 investment as a local 4620 02:27:51,777 --> 02:27:52,027 municipality how could we and 4621 02:27:54,011 --> 02:27:54,261 that's the kind of strategic 4622 02:27:55,511 --> 02:27:55,761 approach we have been taking as 4623 02:27:56,544 --> 02:27:56,794 an entity to have these 4624 02:27:58,011 --> 02:27:58,261 conversations with c local 4625 02:27:59,677 --> 02:27:59,927 municipalities but we would also 4626 02:28:00,344 --> 02:28:00,594 welcome 4627 02:28:02,477 --> 02:28:02,727 a conversation with the state 4628 02:28:05,544 --> 02:28:05,794 Dieter has tried some pilots 4629 02:28:07,511 --> 02:28:07,761 with us based on the demographic 4630 02:28:09,977 --> 02:28:10,227 data but could we collectively 4631 02:28:13,477 --> 02:28:13,727 do more? yes would we want 4632 02:28:14,444 --> 02:28:14,694 you guys to be intentional about 4633 02:28:16,177 --> 02:28:16,427 saying driving in this direction 4634 02:28:19,944 --> 02:28:20,194 yes and so I just say that 4635 02:28:22,011 --> 02:28:22,261 there's a a lot of room for 4636 02:28:23,977 --> 02:28:24,227 collective impact we're not 4637 02:28:25,711 --> 02:28:25,961 being mandated but what we are 4638 02:28:27,677 --> 02:28:27,927 doing is being intentional and 4639 02:28:28,344 --> 02:28:28,594 there's just a lot of room for 4640 02:28:29,011 --> 02:28:29,261 growth. 4641 02:28:37,877 --> 02:28:38,127 So assembly woman backus and 4642 02:28:38,544 --> 02:28:38,794 then senator Deatete. 4643 02:28:41,777 --> 02:28:42,027 thank you so much madam chairir 4644 02:28:42,411 --> 02:28:42,661 when you were talking about 4645 02:28:45,744 --> 02:28:45,994 like state state resources a 4646 02:28:47,511 --> 02:28:47,761 a couple of us obviously sit on 4647 02:28:48,277 --> 02:28:48,527 our money committee as well and 4648 02:28:50,244 --> 02:28:50,494 we start where can we find money 4649 02:28:52,444 --> 02:28:52,694 to invest in these programs 4650 02:28:53,011 --> 02:28:53,261 because 4651 02:28:56,511 --> 02:28:56,761 some of my pro bono work I mean 4652 02:28:57,811 --> 02:28:58,061 before I got really entrenched 4653 02:28:58,411 --> 02:28:58,661 in the legislature was 4654 02:28:59,777 --> 02:29:00,027 representing students in our 4655 02:29:01,511 --> 02:29:01,761 foster care system and it makes 4656 02:29:02,277 --> 02:29:02,527 me sad because I do know like 4657 02:29:05,744 --> 02:29:05,994 I've seen the progression of 4658 02:29:06,411 --> 02:29:06,661 some of our youth when they age 4659 02:29:08,311 --> 02:29:08,561 out and they may not be college 4660 02:29:10,011 --> 02:29:10,261 bound cause we do a lot in that 4661 02:29:13,511 --> 02:29:13,761 good space to provide free 4662 02:29:14,311 --> 02:29:14,561 college tuition for those that 4663 02:29:16,011 --> 02:29:16,261 do age out of the system but 4664 02:29:18,011 --> 02:29:18,261 there's really the those that 4665 02:29:19,777 --> 02:29:20,027 just kind of are like not lost 4666 02:29:20,411 --> 02:29:20,661 but trying to they have to 4667 02:29:21,777 --> 02:29:22,027 either go through a work path or 4668 02:29:23,744 --> 02:29:23,994 not and so I've had kids that 4669 02:29:24,411 --> 02:29:24,661 have gone up to Reno 4670 02:29:26,244 --> 02:29:26,494 but you know I keep thinking 4671 02:29:27,511 --> 02:29:27,761 about different pots and I'm not 4672 02:29:28,311 --> 02:29:28,561 sure if they're appropriate one 4673 02:29:30,277 --> 02:29:30,527 pot we immediately thought about 4674 02:29:32,344 --> 02:29:32,594 is the funding that Dieter gets 4675 02:29:34,011 --> 02:29:34,261 off the wage assessments and I 4676 02:29:35,511 --> 02:29:35,761 wasn't sure if that was just it 4677 02:29:37,544 --> 02:29:37,794 was just limited to 4678 02:29:38,344 --> 02:29:38,594 rehabilitation or if that is a 4679 02:29:39,777 --> 02:29:40,027 pot that we could looked at in 4680 02:29:41,777 --> 02:29:42,027 another pot and I make clark 4681 02:29:42,411 --> 02:29:42,661 County people are sitting back 4682 02:29:44,044 --> 02:29:44,294 there and this may not be 4683 02:29:46,044 --> 02:29:46,294 appropriate as we also have to 4684 02:29:48,277 --> 02:29:48,527 reinvest monies from the 4685 02:29:52,011 --> 02:29:52,261 state that were intended to 4686 02:29:53,744 --> 02:29:53,994 you know limit our foster care 4687 02:29:54,411 --> 02:29:54,661 youth 4688 02:29:57,511 --> 02:29:57,761 usually and I know we have a 4689 02:29:58,144 --> 02:29:58,394 lot of money out there that we 4690 02:29:59,777 --> 02:30:00,027 need to reinvest and I wasn't 4691 02:30:01,511 --> 02:30:01,761 sure if this is an appropriate 4692 02:30:02,311 --> 02:30:02,561 space because now these children 4693 02:30:04,077 --> 02:30:04,327 have already aged out of the 4694 02:30:05,477 --> 02:30:05,727 system so we're just kind of 4695 02:30:07,544 --> 02:30:07,794 being creative on some thoughts 4696 02:30:08,577 --> 02:30:08,827 not sure if you guys have any 4697 02:30:09,711 --> 02:30:09,961 thoughts on either of those 4698 02:30:14,244 --> 02:30:14,494 I would say yes yes and yes 4699 02:30:16,277 --> 02:30:16,527 that's it assembly member 4700 02:30:18,011 --> 02:30:18,261 backc is we have got to be 4701 02:30:19,977 --> 02:30:20,227 creative. I'm not talking about 4702 02:30:21,744 --> 02:30:21,994 new revenue I'm talking about 4703 02:30:23,511 --> 02:30:23,761 the existing revenue and how do 4704 02:30:24,244 --> 02:30:24,494 you look at the first agency 4705 02:30:26,044 --> 02:30:26,294 that you spoke about they have 4706 02:30:27,744 --> 02:30:27,994 been intentional to build a 4707 02:30:29,711 --> 02:30:29,961 relationship and that takes 4708 02:30:32,211 --> 02:30:32,461 collective impact leaders that 4709 02:30:34,244 --> 02:30:34,494 want to be at the table and 4710 02:30:35,511 --> 02:30:35,761 figuring it out so I'm not 4711 02:30:36,277 --> 02:30:36,527 talking about new money I'm 4712 02:30:38,244 --> 02:30:38,494 talking about the existing money 4713 02:30:40,177 --> 02:30:40,427 and how are we more strategic in 4714 02:30:43,511 --> 02:30:43,761 the investments of those now 4715 02:30:44,377 --> 02:30:44,627 some of it has to be a pilot 4716 02:30:44,944 --> 02:30:45,194 like we can't just 4717 02:30:48,244 --> 02:30:48,494 throw a large amount of money 4718 02:30:51,744 --> 02:30:51,994 so it has to be strategic it has 4719 02:30:53,811 --> 02:30:54,061 to be intentional and then 4720 02:30:55,744 --> 02:30:55,994 demonstrate that the needle can 4721 02:30:59,511 --> 02:30:59,761 be moved and we we have that 4722 02:31:01,777 --> 02:31:02,027 already in existence we've done 4723 02:31:03,511 --> 02:31:03,761 small pockets of that 4724 02:31:04,544 --> 02:31:04,794 information but I would just say 4725 02:31:07,511 --> 02:31:07,761 on your AB428 from last 4726 02:31:08,277 --> 02:31:08,527 legislative session that's a 4727 02:31:10,277 --> 02:31:10,527 vehicle that's being used and so 4728 02:31:13,511 --> 02:31:13,761 the short answer is yes and yes 4729 02:31:14,644 --> 02:31:14,894 I'll just make a comment I I 4730 02:31:15,311 --> 02:31:15,561 think 4731 02:31:17,744 --> 02:31:17,994 there's probably some pockets of 4732 02:31:18,444 --> 02:31:18,694 money and maybe these 4733 02:31:19,744 --> 02:31:19,994 conversations are appropriate 4734 02:31:21,477 --> 02:31:21,727 offline so we can kind of 4735 02:31:22,477 --> 02:31:22,727 reexamine how we're investing 4736 02:31:24,244 --> 02:31:24,494 funds and maybe we use them the 4737 02:31:27,511 --> 02:31:27,761 best that we can use them from 4738 02:31:28,211 --> 02:31:28,461 other spaces that may be notre 4739 02:31:29,711 --> 02:31:29,961 I'm so sorry did I cut you off? 4740 02:31:30,411 --> 02:31:30,661 did you have something down 4741 02:31:32,011 --> 02:31:32,261 ma'am I just wanted to add a 4742 02:31:32,577 --> 02:31:32,827 comment Riccardo Vilos for the 4743 02:31:33,244 --> 02:31:33,494 record thank you for that 4744 02:31:36,244 --> 02:31:36,494 again just to piggyback on my 4745 02:31:37,977 --> 02:31:38,227 colleague Irene's comment 4746 02:31:39,977 --> 02:31:40,227 Deeter's been a great partner in 4747 02:31:41,977 --> 02:31:42,227 this space Dieter funded us 4748 02:31:43,744 --> 02:31:43,994 last year half a million dollars 4749 02:31:46,211 --> 02:31:46,461 to focus onun youth again when I 4750 02:31:46,877 --> 02:31:47,127 sayun youth it's that whole 4751 02:31:50,111 --> 02:31:50,361 subpopulation foster youth 4752 02:31:50,644 --> 02:31:50,894 juvenile etc. 4753 02:31:53,777 --> 02:31:54,027 and then there were some 4754 02:31:55,511 --> 02:31:55,761 great outcomes from it and and 4755 02:31:56,544 --> 02:31:56,794 so they reinvested a million 4756 02:31:58,011 --> 02:31:58,261 dollars this year for southern 4757 02:31:59,511 --> 02:31:59,761 Nevada and I believe my 4758 02:32:00,044 --> 02:32:00,294 colleague will share invested a 4759 02:32:01,744 --> 02:32:01,994 million dollars for the north to 4760 02:32:03,511 --> 02:32:03,761 focus onpunity youth we have one 4761 02:32:04,211 --> 02:32:04,461 of the highest disconnection 4762 02:32:04,811 --> 02:32:05,061 rates in the in the country 4763 02:32:07,777 --> 02:32:08,027 and so Dieter has been a 4764 02:32:09,511 --> 02:32:09,761 great partner a willing partner 4765 02:32:10,111 --> 02:32:10,361 and they've shown it by their 4766 02:32:11,711 --> 02:32:11,961 actions so I do want to commend 4767 02:32:12,411 --> 02:32:12,661 them and recognize them 4768 02:32:12,977 --> 02:32:13,227 publicly. 4769 02:32:16,044 --> 02:32:16,294 I would just echo that I know 4770 02:32:17,511 --> 02:32:17,761 director soul has done some good 4771 02:32:18,177 --> 02:32:18,427 work so I'll echo your comments 4772 02:32:18,877 --> 02:32:19,127 thank you. 4773 02:32:20,277 --> 02:32:20,527 Senator Denett 4774 02:32:24,544 --> 02:32:24,794 thank you madam chair and thank 4775 02:32:25,511 --> 02:32:25,761 you so much for the 4776 02:32:27,511 --> 02:32:27,761 presentation.uick first question 4777 02:32:29,511 --> 02:32:29,761 because it's more of a this 4778 02:32:31,511 --> 02:32:31,761 is gonna be more commentary that 4779 02:32:33,744 --> 02:32:33,994 could result into like data 4780 02:32:35,744 --> 02:32:35,994 requests does workforce 4781 02:32:37,544 --> 02:32:37,794 connections right now oversee 4782 02:32:39,544 --> 02:32:39,794 the employee the employnevada 4783 02:32:40,177 --> 02:32:40,427 hubs I didn't know if I caught 4784 02:32:41,544 --> 02:32:41,794 that in like what's your 4785 02:32:42,311 --> 02:32:42,561 relationship to it do you 4786 02:32:43,777 --> 02:32:44,027 control the funding for them or 4787 02:32:45,511 --> 02:32:45,761 you the board like I'm trying to 4788 02:32:46,244 --> 02:32:46,494 understand more of the 4789 02:32:48,044 --> 02:32:48,294 regulatory structure. thank you 4790 02:32:48,711 --> 02:32:48,961 for the question so 4791 02:32:51,511 --> 02:32:51,761 at a federal level they're 4792 02:32:53,677 --> 02:32:53,927 labeled or recognized identified 4793 02:32:54,344 --> 02:32:54,594 as American job centers 4794 02:32:56,011 --> 02:32:56,261 so that's kind of the federal 4795 02:32:57,777 --> 02:32:58,027 recognition what we did in the 4796 02:32:59,511 --> 02:32:59,761 state of Nevada was brand them 4797 02:33:01,744 --> 02:33:01,994 as employing the hubs and so 4798 02:33:03,511 --> 02:33:03,761 employingvhubs that's where 4799 02:33:04,211 --> 02:33:04,461 and there's career hubs that 4800 02:33:05,977 --> 02:33:06,227 focus on adults youth hubs that 4801 02:33:07,744 --> 02:33:07,994 focus on youth and the business 4802 02:33:09,744 --> 02:33:09,994 hubs that focus on businesses 4803 02:33:11,511 --> 02:33:11,761 and so as the local workforce 4804 02:33:13,744 --> 02:33:13,994 development board we received 4805 02:33:15,811 --> 02:33:16,061 the WIOA funds and then through 4806 02:33:17,544 --> 02:33:17,794 a competitive procurement 4807 02:33:19,744 --> 02:33:19,994 process have service 4808 02:33:21,544 --> 02:33:21,794 providers that actually deliver 4809 02:33:22,711 --> 02:33:22,961 the services to individuals 4810 02:33:23,277 --> 02:33:23,527 throughout the state 4811 02:33:26,044 --> 02:33:26,294 and so we're more our role as 4812 02:33:27,777 --> 02:33:28,027 workforce connections the local 4813 02:33:29,477 --> 02:33:29,727 workforce development board is 4814 02:33:30,277 --> 02:33:30,527 monitoring for compliance and 4815 02:33:31,677 --> 02:33:31,927 providing technical assistance 4816 02:33:32,344 --> 02:33:32,594 to these 4817 02:33:37,511 --> 02:33:37,761 But I if I could add senator I 4818 02:33:39,744 --> 02:33:39,994 would just say that what's been 4819 02:33:41,477 --> 02:33:41,727 magical is the strategic 4820 02:33:44,244 --> 02:33:44,494 partnerships so that 27 that 4821 02:33:46,011 --> 02:33:46,261 doesn't occur in every other 4822 02:33:47,777 --> 02:33:48,027 state. It occurs here and the 4823 02:33:50,011 --> 02:33:50,261 reason why is intentionality and 4824 02:33:52,011 --> 02:33:52,261 partnerships so those entities 4825 02:33:53,744 --> 02:33:53,994 like the libraries like the 4826 02:33:56,277 --> 02:33:56,527 chambers like city halls they 4827 02:33:58,011 --> 02:33:58,261 don't have to have an employee 4828 02:33:59,777 --> 02:34:00,027 an American job set an employee 4829 02:34:02,044 --> 02:34:02,294 in hub in their place they 4830 02:34:03,677 --> 02:34:03,927 invite us and so we are 4831 02:34:06,511 --> 02:34:06,761 in there and are able to expand 4832 02:34:08,011 --> 02:34:08,261 our footprint because of those 4833 02:34:10,277 --> 02:34:10,527 relationships so that means that 4834 02:34:11,744 --> 02:34:11,994 they don't charge us for 4835 02:34:13,744 --> 02:34:13,994 infrastructure they don't charge 4836 02:34:15,744 --> 02:34:15,994 us for electricity or for water 4837 02:34:17,744 --> 02:34:17,994 they invite us to be able to 4838 02:34:18,477 --> 02:34:18,727 serve the constituents so they 4839 02:34:20,011 --> 02:34:20,261 don't have to travel far to be 4840 02:34:22,277 --> 02:34:22,527 able to get the services that's 4841 02:34:24,011 --> 02:34:24,261 happening in this region and 4842 02:34:26,011 --> 02:34:26,261 it's a state best practice and 4843 02:34:27,744 --> 02:34:27,994 that's been our key magical 4844 02:34:29,477 --> 02:34:29,727 thing is to be able to expand 4845 02:34:30,511 --> 02:34:30,761 our footprint because most 4846 02:34:32,277 --> 02:34:32,527 states just have one ande 4847 02:34:33,744 --> 02:34:33,994 everybody has to travel to that 4848 02:34:34,444 --> 02:34:34,694 one center 4849 02:34:34,911 --> 02:34:35,161 not here. 4850 02:34:40,011 --> 02:34:40,261 you are firing me up sorry I'm 4851 02:34:42,011 --> 02:34:42,261 just so now now to give you the 4852 02:34:43,811 --> 02:34:44,061 commentary of the of the of the 4853 02:34:44,544 --> 02:34:44,794 challenge so 4854 02:34:47,711 --> 02:34:47,961 I have actually gone through the 4855 02:34:49,711 --> 02:34:49,961 employee andv hub I was 4856 02:34:51,977 --> 02:34:52,227 unemployed not too long ago 4857 02:34:54,011 --> 02:34:54,261 so I've seen the challenges 4858 02:34:56,477 --> 02:34:56,727 just in full transparency 4859 02:34:57,777 --> 02:34:58,027 hopefully the voters don't 4860 02:34:59,477 --> 02:34:59,727 penalize me for this but you 4861 02:35:01,511 --> 02:35:01,761 know I have navigated this 4862 02:35:03,844 --> 02:35:04,094 difficulty and I think that 4863 02:35:06,244 --> 02:35:06,494 as you all are thinking through 4864 02:35:08,077 --> 02:35:08,327 the strategies of how you meet 4865 02:35:08,744 --> 02:35:08,994 workers where they're at. 4866 02:35:11,777 --> 02:35:12,027 in this if they find 4867 02:35:13,477 --> 02:35:13,727 themselves in that precarious 4868 02:35:15,744 --> 02:35:15,994 situation, I will be honest that 4869 02:35:17,477 --> 02:35:17,727 the current system that we have 4870 02:35:20,011 --> 02:35:20,261 does not work when you are 4871 02:35:21,744 --> 02:35:21,994 and this is and I've had this 4872 02:35:22,377 --> 02:35:22,627 discussion with Dieter as well 4873 02:35:23,777 --> 02:35:24,027 so I'm just telling you guys 4874 02:35:25,744 --> 02:35:25,994 because it's gonna this is going 4875 02:35:26,411 --> 02:35:26,661 to be a data request 4876 02:35:29,777 --> 02:35:30,027 when Dieter requests you to go 4877 02:35:32,011 --> 02:35:32,261 to an employee invub right you 4878 02:35:32,611 --> 02:35:32,861 get the email notification 4879 02:35:34,011 --> 02:35:34,261 saying you have to be there at a 4880 02:35:35,644 --> 02:35:35,894 certain time you can't miss it 4881 02:35:39,477 --> 02:35:39,727 as part of that circumstance 4882 02:35:41,477 --> 02:35:41,727 when you are triaged when you 4883 02:35:42,211 --> 02:35:42,461 arrive at the employer nv hub 4884 02:35:45,511 --> 02:35:45,761 you're asked to do some 4885 02:35:46,044 --> 02:35:46,294 mental health 4886 02:35:49,777 --> 02:35:50,027 questionnaire which by the way 4887 02:35:51,711 --> 02:35:51,961 no one reads and then after 4888 02:35:53,944 --> 02:35:54,194 waiting in line you wait for 4889 02:35:55,477 --> 02:35:55,727 your appointment then you get 4890 02:35:56,211 --> 02:35:56,461 your appointment and then they 4891 02:35:58,011 --> 02:35:58,261 just ask you about alert your 4892 02:35:59,477 --> 02:35:59,727 situation you know what you're 4893 02:36:01,744 --> 02:36:01,994 dealing with and then they 4894 02:36:02,344 --> 02:36:02,594 scheduled the next one and they 4895 02:36:03,711 --> 02:36:03,961 say make sure that you apply for 4896 02:36:05,477 --> 02:36:05,727 two jobs and we'll see you at 4897 02:36:06,177 --> 02:36:06,427 your next appointment. 4898 02:36:08,211 --> 02:36:08,461 The reason why I'm explaining 4899 02:36:10,011 --> 02:36:10,261 that to you as a circumstance is 4900 02:36:10,711 --> 02:36:10,961 because I do not believe 4901 02:36:14,011 --> 02:36:14,261 our state including the work 4902 02:36:15,511 --> 02:36:15,761 that you guys are doing withloy 4903 02:36:16,144 --> 02:36:16,394 andV and I don't know who's 4904 02:36:17,477 --> 02:36:17,727 responsible but that's why I'm 4905 02:36:18,311 --> 02:36:18,561 asking who is responsible for 4906 02:36:19,977 --> 02:36:20,227 overseeing how these programs 4907 02:36:22,244 --> 02:36:22,494 are facilitated is we are not 4908 02:36:23,744 --> 02:36:23,994 actually doing the triage 4909 02:36:25,511 --> 02:36:25,761 services that we need and 4910 02:36:26,277 --> 02:36:26,527 looking at the workers based on 4911 02:36:29,511 --> 02:36:29,761 the skills that they have. they 4912 02:36:31,477 --> 02:36:31,727 are going to be to the questions 4913 02:36:32,211 --> 02:36:32,461 that we're seeing in these 4914 02:36:33,744 --> 02:36:33,994 presentations. there are going 4915 02:36:35,744 --> 02:36:35,994 to be displaced workers that are 4916 02:36:37,511 --> 02:36:37,761 working professionals white 4917 02:36:40,044 --> 02:36:40,294 collar jobs that we're doing law 4918 02:36:40,677 --> 02:36:40,927 accounting and so forth 4919 02:36:44,344 --> 02:36:44,594 and we are treating every single 4920 02:36:46,277 --> 02:36:46,527 person that is un unemployed as 4921 02:36:49,477 --> 02:36:49,727 a cookie cutter. here's your 4922 02:36:51,477 --> 02:36:51,727 application here's the next stop 4923 02:36:52,511 --> 02:36:52,761 and I don't think our current 4924 02:36:54,011 --> 02:36:54,261 infrastructure including through 4925 02:36:55,511 --> 02:36:55,761 the work that you guys are doing 4926 02:36:57,477 --> 02:36:57,727 are meeting that demand and so 4927 02:37:00,011 --> 02:37:00,261 what I would like to see is a 4928 02:37:01,544 --> 02:37:01,794 plan of how you're going to 4929 02:37:03,744 --> 02:37:03,994 reform how we do triage for 4930 02:37:04,344 --> 02:37:04,594 workers as they're coming 4931 02:37:06,044 --> 02:37:06,294 through and what wrapround 4932 02:37:07,811 --> 02:37:08,061 support services we're actually 4933 02:37:10,044 --> 02:37:10,294 looking at per worker because 4934 02:37:10,711 --> 02:37:10,961 unfortunately the placement 4935 02:37:14,011 --> 02:37:14,261 of working professional into 4936 02:37:16,111 --> 02:37:16,361 a a job at 4937 02:37:19,744 --> 02:37:19,994 in retail and so forth might not 4938 02:37:20,477 --> 02:37:20,727 make as appropriate sense and I 4939 02:37:22,011 --> 02:37:22,261 think this is going to become a 4940 02:37:24,011 --> 02:37:24,261 a worse issue that we're 4941 02:37:25,511 --> 02:37:25,761 gonna face. I think obviously 4942 02:37:26,277 --> 02:37:26,527 that comes more in the 4943 02:37:27,744 --> 02:37:27,994 conversation with how we work 4944 02:37:28,344 --> 02:37:28,594 with higher ed and making sure 4945 02:37:29,744 --> 02:37:29,994 that workers are retrained and 4946 02:37:30,444 --> 02:37:30,694 that they actually have the 4947 02:37:32,077 --> 02:37:32,327 resources or supporting 4948 02:37:33,744 --> 02:37:33,994 entrepreneurship in a different 4949 02:37:35,744 --> 02:37:35,994 manner but I just I will be 4950 02:37:36,377 --> 02:37:36,627 honest, I don't think you guys 4951 02:37:37,511 --> 02:37:37,761 are doing the work that we need 4952 02:37:38,244 --> 02:37:38,494 to be doing right now and I 4953 02:37:39,744 --> 02:37:39,994 would be happy to figure it out 4954 02:37:41,744 --> 02:37:41,994 because I don't think 4955 02:37:43,744 --> 02:37:43,994 certainly their taxpayer dollars 4956 02:37:44,444 --> 02:37:44,694 that could be expended better 4957 02:37:46,111 --> 02:37:46,361 instead of treating everyone 4958 02:37:46,744 --> 02:37:46,994 like a factory line, but I don't 4959 02:37:47,411 --> 02:37:47,661 know if you guys have 4960 02:37:50,144 --> 02:37:50,394 any commentary to that madam 4961 02:37:51,477 --> 02:37:51,727 chair through you Riccardo Vilos 4962 02:37:52,177 --> 02:37:52,427 for the record thank you for 4963 02:37:52,744 --> 02:37:52,994 that senator 4964 02:37:55,744 --> 02:37:55,994 you know we always believe and 4965 02:37:56,377 --> 02:37:56,627 continuously improving you know 4966 02:37:57,744 --> 02:37:57,994 our efficiencies right for the 4967 02:37:59,511 --> 02:37:59,761 human being that comes in for 4968 02:38:00,244 --> 02:38:00,494 services I'm not exact exactly 4969 02:38:01,977 --> 02:38:02,227 sure which employingvhub you 4970 02:38:04,244 --> 02:38:04,494 went to you know or there's 4971 02:38:05,977 --> 02:38:06,227 nuances in it you know as far as 4972 02:38:07,477 --> 02:38:07,727 which direction you went and we 4973 02:38:08,211 --> 02:38:08,461 don't want to get the 4974 02:38:10,044 --> 02:38:10,294 conversation with the the human 4975 02:38:11,511 --> 02:38:11,761 about oh you're here for this 4976 02:38:13,511 --> 02:38:13,761 you need to go see TitleI oh 4977 02:38:14,111 --> 02:38:14,361 you're here for that go see 4978 02:38:15,677 --> 02:38:15,927 Title 2 ohitle1 we just want to 4979 02:38:16,344 --> 02:38:16,594 provide 4980 02:38:19,744 --> 02:38:19,994 but it does make a difference 4981 02:38:20,377 --> 02:38:20,627 what your process is depending 4982 02:38:22,011 --> 02:38:22,261 on which one you go to so that 4983 02:38:23,644 --> 02:38:23,894 that's number one nonetheless it 4984 02:38:28,211 --> 02:38:28,461 you I think the other thing too 4985 02:38:31,744 --> 02:38:31,994 is that that I would share so 4986 02:38:33,977 --> 02:38:34,227 we keep a track we we track 4987 02:38:34,544 --> 02:38:34,794 customer traffic at our American 4988 02:38:35,211 --> 02:38:35,461 job centers. 4989 02:38:39,711 --> 02:38:39,961 we have on average on a 4990 02:38:42,244 --> 02:38:42,494 weekly average4 to500 touch 4991 02:38:45,511 --> 02:38:45,761 points on a weekly basis 4992 02:38:46,277 --> 02:38:46,527 let's say so it's about if 4993 02:38:49,477 --> 02:38:49,727 you round it out to52 weeks is 4994 02:38:51,477 --> 02:38:51,727 probably about1314 maybe close 4995 02:38:53,977 --> 02:38:54,227 to15,000 you know humans and 4996 02:38:54,677 --> 02:38:54,927 some or another kind of coming 4997 02:38:55,344 --> 02:38:55,594 across our system 4998 02:38:57,711 --> 02:38:57,961 the funding that we have in 4999 02:38:59,744 --> 02:38:59,994 southern Nevada is only has 5000 02:39:00,377 --> 02:39:00,627 the capacity to serve1,500 5001 02:39:00,944 --> 02:39:01,194 people. 5002 02:39:04,144 --> 02:39:04,394 yet about15,000 are coming 5003 02:39:04,677 --> 02:39:04,927 across the system 5004 02:39:07,777 --> 02:39:08,027 the staffing capacity you 5005 02:39:09,744 --> 02:39:09,994 know is an issue that we look at 5006 02:39:11,477 --> 02:39:11,727 you know and so sometimes quite 5007 02:39:12,211 --> 02:39:12,461 frankly to address it we either 5008 02:39:14,244 --> 02:39:14,494 say hey serve more or serve less 5009 02:39:15,811 --> 02:39:16,061 people so you can be more 5010 02:39:16,344 --> 02:39:16,594 efficient 5011 02:39:18,444 --> 02:39:18,694 right or continue to serve the 5012 02:39:20,277 --> 02:39:20,527 need and it it it creates 5013 02:39:21,977 --> 02:39:22,227 bottlenecks quite frankly you 5014 02:39:23,744 --> 02:39:23,994 know and so we're looking at it 5015 02:39:24,411 --> 02:39:24,661 to create efficiencies for 5016 02:39:25,011 --> 02:39:25,261 sure 5017 02:39:27,977 --> 02:39:28,227 and so I appreciate that 5018 02:39:29,711 --> 02:39:29,961 feedback I appreciate that 5019 02:39:31,477 --> 02:39:31,727 insight that that insight 5020 02:39:32,177 --> 02:39:32,427 insight and we'll definitely 5021 02:39:33,744 --> 02:39:33,994 take it to heart and we're we're 5022 02:39:34,444 --> 02:39:34,694 looking at it though because 5023 02:39:35,511 --> 02:39:35,761 this isn't the first time we've 5024 02:39:37,644 --> 02:39:37,894 heard about our efficiencies but 5025 02:39:38,344 --> 02:39:38,594 that's the context we deal with 5026 02:39:40,244 --> 02:39:40,494 If I could add senator one of 5027 02:39:41,744 --> 02:39:41,994 the things that I learned in 5028 02:39:44,011 --> 02:39:44,261 coming into the space is that 5029 02:39:45,744 --> 02:39:45,994 that we owe of funds at least 5030 02:39:47,744 --> 02:39:47,994 from aitle I perspective that we 5031 02:39:49,744 --> 02:39:49,994 have ownership over is to serve 5032 02:39:51,744 --> 02:39:51,994 those that have the highest 5033 02:39:53,744 --> 02:39:53,994 barriers that need to be removed 5034 02:39:55,811 --> 02:39:56,061 like somebody doesn't have 5035 02:39:59,711 --> 02:39:59,961 right myself migrant farm 5036 02:40:00,444 --> 02:40:00,694 worker right? I didn't have 5037 02:40:02,211 --> 02:40:02,461 mentors in my life. I didn't 5038 02:40:05,477 --> 02:40:05,727 have my first job that you know 5039 02:40:07,977 --> 02:40:08,227 my my parents got for me it was 5040 02:40:12,244 --> 02:40:12,494 just me and so compound that 5041 02:40:14,044 --> 02:40:14,294 if I were to have a kids at a 5042 02:40:16,011 --> 02:40:16,261 young age I was homeless I was 5043 02:40:17,844 --> 02:40:18,094 in a foster care system that's 5044 02:40:23,511 --> 02:40:23,761 our clientele now if you're a an 5045 02:40:24,177 --> 02:40:24,427 accountant maybe looking for 5046 02:40:27,477 --> 02:40:27,727 work if you are you know you 5047 02:40:30,177 --> 02:40:30,427 said something about law yes 5048 02:40:32,211 --> 02:40:32,461 another entity in the ecosystem 5049 02:40:34,411 --> 02:40:34,661 it that's their 5050 02:40:39,511 --> 02:40:39,761 target market could we do 5051 02:40:41,511 --> 02:40:41,761 better absolutely and that takes 5052 02:40:43,977 --> 02:40:44,227 intentionality it is the 5053 02:40:45,744 --> 02:40:45,994 willingness and we're headed in 5054 02:40:47,477 --> 02:40:47,727 that direction. are we perfect? 5055 02:40:49,677 --> 02:40:49,927 no but thank you for exposing 5056 02:40:50,344 --> 02:40:50,594 where we need to improve. 5057 02:40:59,844 --> 02:41:00,094 no additional questions 5058 02:41:05,477 --> 02:41:05,727 I will cause we have probably 5059 02:41:06,111 --> 02:41:06,361 some additional conversation 5060 02:41:08,244 --> 02:41:08,494 we'll probably have offline but 5061 02:41:09,744 --> 02:41:09,994 number one thank you guys for 5062 02:41:10,444 --> 02:41:10,694 coming to present 5063 02:41:12,244 --> 02:41:12,494 you know I care about 5064 02:41:15,677 --> 02:41:15,927 several topics but 5065 02:41:19,477 --> 02:41:19,727 354 is just something I'm just 5066 02:41:20,211 --> 02:41:20,461 gonna keep checking on while I'm 5067 02:41:23,777 --> 02:41:24,027 in the building the AI is I 5068 02:41:24,344 --> 02:41:24,594 think going to be a constant 5069 02:41:24,977 --> 02:41:25,227 conversation 5070 02:41:28,211 --> 02:41:28,461 because they're serious 5071 02:41:30,244 --> 02:41:30,494 projections out there on on huge 5072 02:41:31,677 --> 02:41:31,927 job losses in several sectors 5073 02:41:34,177 --> 02:41:34,427 and I just think it's 5074 02:41:35,977 --> 02:41:36,227 something that has to become a 5075 02:41:38,211 --> 02:41:38,461 part of our constant topic as a 5076 02:41:41,711 --> 02:41:41,961 legislature being proactive and 5077 02:41:42,377 --> 02:41:42,627 making sure that we have systems 5078 02:41:43,044 --> 02:41:43,294 in place 5079 02:41:47,511 --> 02:41:47,761 when those losses happen and 5080 02:41:49,477 --> 02:41:49,727 because not everybody is 5081 02:41:51,944 --> 02:41:52,194 going to be upskilled into a new 5082 02:41:54,444 --> 02:41:54,694 area, right and so there's a 5083 02:41:56,211 --> 02:41:56,461 huge question on what that looks 5084 02:41:59,944 --> 02:42:00,194 like how we're going to mitigate 5085 02:42:02,211 --> 02:42:02,461 that how we're gonna slow 5086 02:42:05,477 --> 02:42:05,727 this down to try to keep some 5087 02:42:07,744 --> 02:42:07,994 normalcy to employment which is 5088 02:42:09,744 --> 02:42:09,994 my goal how to slow it down and 5089 02:42:12,411 --> 02:42:12,661 keep some normalcy right not 5090 02:42:12,977 --> 02:42:13,227 complete wipeouts. 5091 02:42:18,244 --> 02:42:18,494 and so I think that that's why 5092 02:42:19,777 --> 02:42:20,027 you know to bring up question 5093 02:42:21,744 --> 02:42:21,994 two and three why that's on the 5094 02:42:24,011 --> 02:42:24,261 agenda is because you know I 5095 02:42:25,511 --> 02:42:25,761 think it's just a need to 5096 02:42:26,077 --> 02:42:26,327 constantly monitor and be 5097 02:42:29,477 --> 02:42:29,727 proactive, right? so we thank 5098 02:42:30,444 --> 02:42:30,694 you for your presentation and 5099 02:42:32,277 --> 02:42:32,527 for your time waiting and this 5100 02:42:33,977 --> 02:42:34,227 morning and listening to our 5101 02:42:34,544 --> 02:42:34,794 prediction markets. 5102 02:42:38,411 --> 02:42:38,661 thank you madam all right 5103 02:42:43,511 --> 02:42:43,761 so we will go to the next 5104 02:42:45,644 --> 02:42:45,894 presenter which isilt Stewart of 5105 02:42:46,311 --> 02:42:46,561 Nevadaorks. 5106 02:43:12,044 --> 02:43:12,294 Hi good morning my name's meelt 5107 02:43:13,511 --> 02:43:13,761 Stuart I'm the CEO for 5108 02:43:15,777 --> 02:43:16,027 Nevadaorks. Nevada Works is the 5109 02:43:16,511 --> 02:43:16,761 local workforce development 5110 02:43:19,511 --> 02:43:19,761 board for the 13 counties that 5111 02:43:20,277 --> 02:43:20,527 were forced connections does not 5112 02:43:22,277 --> 02:43:22,527 cover so as you heard 5113 02:43:23,511 --> 02:43:23,761 workforce connectctions 5114 02:43:24,311 --> 02:43:24,561 coverslinncolnn ass meal and 5115 02:43:25,811 --> 02:43:26,061 Clark and we cover the rest of 5116 02:43:28,011 --> 02:43:28,261 the state which is70,000 square 5117 02:43:31,511 --> 02:43:31,761 miles about three quarter of a 5118 02:43:34,311 --> 02:43:34,561 million people and so most of 5119 02:43:36,011 --> 02:43:36,261 what you're going to hear me say 5120 02:43:39,677 --> 02:43:39,927 today is very very similar right 5121 02:43:40,344 --> 02:43:40,594 because the ecosystem 5122 02:43:41,044 --> 02:43:41,294 is is very similar 5123 02:43:43,811 --> 02:43:44,061 but we have you know a unique 5124 02:43:45,511 --> 02:43:45,761 set of challenges due to 5125 02:43:47,511 --> 02:43:47,761 that70,000 square miles and so 5126 02:43:49,677 --> 02:43:49,927 all kind of contextualize that 5127 02:43:50,344 --> 02:43:50,594 just a little bit please 5128 02:43:53,977 --> 02:43:54,227 so this the the questions 5129 02:43:56,211 --> 02:43:56,461 that that that you asked I'm 5130 02:43:57,944 --> 02:43:58,194 and I'm not gonna kind of repeat 5131 02:43:58,677 --> 02:43:58,927 some of the same things that you 5132 02:43:59,744 --> 02:43:59,994 heard. I wanna really get to 5133 02:44:01,511 --> 02:44:01,761 some the meat of what I think it 5134 02:44:02,444 --> 02:44:02,694 was that some of the questions 5135 02:44:03,144 --> 02:44:03,394 that you're asking so next slide 5136 02:44:05,477 --> 02:44:05,727 so 5137 02:44:06,477 --> 02:44:06,727 as you heard Workforce 5138 02:44:08,011 --> 02:44:08,261 connectction say foster youth 5139 02:44:10,044 --> 02:44:10,294 yes right yes thank you for 5140 02:44:11,744 --> 02:44:11,994 having this conversation. we 5141 02:44:12,444 --> 02:44:12,694 think that it's it's it's vital 5142 02:44:13,111 --> 02:44:13,361 conversation to have 5143 02:44:18,011 --> 02:44:18,261 the foster youth are one of 5144 02:44:19,744 --> 02:44:19,994 multiple barriers or different 5145 02:44:21,511 --> 02:44:21,761 kinds of barriers that 5146 02:44:23,511 --> 02:44:23,761 individuals can have and and 5147 02:44:24,244 --> 02:44:24,494 need our support right you need 5148 02:44:26,244 --> 02:44:26,494 our service so foster youth 5149 02:44:28,211 --> 02:44:28,461 are are served through that 5150 02:44:31,744 --> 02:44:31,994 broader ecosystem and you 5151 02:44:33,511 --> 02:44:33,761 know the when we're bringing 5152 02:44:35,911 --> 02:44:36,161 them into the ecosystem if we go 5153 02:44:36,577 --> 02:44:36,827 to the next slide 5154 02:44:39,511 --> 02:44:39,761 we don't always know that they 5155 02:44:41,511 --> 02:44:41,761 are foster youth, right? I mean 5156 02:44:42,277 --> 02:44:42,527 they have to self identify. they 5157 02:44:44,044 --> 02:44:44,294 have to tell us that they're so 5158 02:44:45,977 --> 02:44:46,227 foster youth and quite frankly 5159 02:44:48,211 --> 02:44:48,461 as we think in terms of 5160 02:44:49,777 --> 02:44:50,027 eligibility, right when we 5161 02:44:50,344 --> 02:44:50,594 talking when we're talking about 5162 02:44:52,011 --> 02:44:52,261 federal funding or funding in 5163 02:44:53,511 --> 02:44:53,761 general there's eligibility 5164 02:44:54,144 --> 02:44:54,394 requirements associated with 5165 02:44:56,011 --> 02:44:56,261 that and and there's multiple 5166 02:44:57,777 --> 02:44:58,027 different thresholds or 5167 02:44:59,744 --> 02:44:59,994 eligibility thresholds for for 5168 02:45:01,511 --> 02:45:01,761 out of school youth for those 6 5169 02:45:04,244 --> 02:45:04,494 to 24 yearolds and so there are 5170 02:45:06,077 --> 02:45:06,327 times where you know, I check a 5171 02:45:06,744 --> 02:45:06,994 box right? I 5172 02:45:10,011 --> 02:45:10,261 I was made eligible because I am 5173 02:45:11,744 --> 02:45:11,994 pregnant parenting or or what 5174 02:45:13,744 --> 02:45:13,994 have you and we don't capture 5175 02:45:15,711 --> 02:45:15,961 that so so rather than you know 5176 02:45:17,477 --> 02:45:17,727 have the conversation around the 5177 02:45:18,211 --> 02:45:18,461 foster youth in general, I think 5178 02:45:19,511 --> 02:45:19,761 it's a you know the conversation 5179 02:45:21,511 --> 02:45:21,761 is to your point Senatorneal how 5180 02:45:22,311 --> 02:45:22,561 do we you know how that's a 5181 02:45:24,244 --> 02:45:24,494 terrible story right and 5182 02:45:26,344 --> 02:45:26,594 everybody in this room hears 5183 02:45:27,777 --> 02:45:28,027 that and says we need to be 5184 02:45:30,544 --> 02:45:30,794 better and and100% so so how 5185 02:45:31,777 --> 02:45:32,027 do we do that right so we're 5186 02:45:34,277 --> 02:45:34,527 we're developing a system that 5187 02:45:36,077 --> 02:45:36,327 anybody that that can can come 5188 02:45:36,777 --> 02:45:37,027 in the door and then 5189 02:45:38,577 --> 02:45:38,827 we help them accordingly and so 5190 02:45:39,244 --> 02:45:39,494 next slide please 5191 02:45:43,744 --> 02:45:43,994 so again they don't always 5192 02:45:45,511 --> 02:45:45,761 necessarily tell us that they 5193 02:45:47,544 --> 02:45:47,794 are that they are foster 5194 02:45:48,244 --> 02:45:48,494 youth but that doesn't matter 5195 02:45:50,011 --> 02:45:50,261 right so we're going to serve 5196 02:45:51,744 --> 02:45:51,994 them in a way that meets their 5197 02:45:54,211 --> 02:45:54,461 needs and irrespective of of 5198 02:45:55,711 --> 02:45:55,961 whether they've identified as 5199 02:45:56,544 --> 02:45:56,794 foster youth or not next 5200 02:45:57,111 --> 02:45:57,361 slide 5201 02:46:01,777 --> 02:46:02,027 so with regards to AB354, I mean 5202 02:46:03,477 --> 02:46:03,727 the the easiest way that I can 5203 02:46:04,411 --> 02:46:04,661 put this is that when we get the 5204 02:46:05,077 --> 02:46:05,327 AB354 report 5205 02:46:08,211 --> 02:46:08,461 12 of our 13 counties meet that 5206 02:46:09,877 --> 02:46:10,127 one of those thresholds in one 5207 02:46:10,544 --> 02:46:10,794 way shape or form 5208 02:46:13,777 --> 02:46:14,027 and and so what does that mean? 5209 02:46:15,511 --> 02:46:15,761 It means that that's our 5210 02:46:16,077 --> 02:46:16,327 delivery of service model. I 5211 02:46:18,011 --> 02:46:18,261 mean we have made this delivery 5212 02:46:18,711 --> 02:46:18,961 our our service model be 5213 02:46:19,311 --> 02:46:19,561 reflective 5214 02:46:23,477 --> 02:46:23,727 of the the greater need so if we 5215 02:46:25,744 --> 02:46:25,994 think in terms of of for 5216 02:46:29,744 --> 02:46:29,994 example 92% of the folks that 5217 02:46:31,877 --> 02:46:32,127 the across our our region are 5218 02:46:32,544 --> 02:46:32,794 are 5219 02:46:34,544 --> 02:46:34,794 meet one of the barriers or one 5220 02:46:35,811 --> 02:46:36,061 of the thresholds for 5221 02:46:37,777 --> 02:46:38,027 eligibility for for the 5222 02:46:39,744 --> 02:46:39,994 services that we that that we 5223 02:46:43,777 --> 02:46:44,027 provide the the 20 to 24 5224 02:46:45,477 --> 02:46:45,727 yearolds because the report's 5225 02:46:46,511 --> 02:46:46,761 broken up into certain 5226 02:46:48,277 --> 02:46:48,527 categories but that 20 to 24 5227 02:46:51,744 --> 02:46:51,994 yearold across again uh12 of the 5228 02:46:53,744 --> 02:46:53,994 13 counties they rise up to that 5229 02:46:55,744 --> 02:46:55,994 level where it would it would 5230 02:46:59,511 --> 02:46:59,761 trigger the the AB354 so 5231 02:47:01,911 --> 02:47:02,161 so I say it to see this that 5232 02:47:02,477 --> 02:47:02,727 that is our model right? so we 5233 02:47:07,511 --> 02:47:07,761 use AB354 to help us focus 5234 02:47:08,244 --> 02:47:08,494 investments but if we 5235 02:47:12,011 --> 02:47:12,261 we have to use the we have to in 5236 02:47:13,744 --> 02:47:13,994 order to have an impactful model 5237 02:47:15,977 --> 02:47:16,227 we have to really build 5238 02:47:18,277 --> 02:47:18,527 the model or the ecosystem to be 5239 02:47:20,277 --> 02:47:20,527 able to serve all those all 5240 02:47:22,244 --> 02:47:22,494 those def different demographics 5241 02:47:25,511 --> 02:47:25,761 so one of the things that we 5242 02:47:27,711 --> 02:47:27,961 were able to do as an example 5243 02:47:29,744 --> 02:47:29,994 we saw that across 9 of the 13 5244 02:47:31,911 --> 02:47:32,161 counties Native Americans tri 5245 02:47:32,544 --> 02:47:32,794 tribes were 5246 02:47:36,044 --> 02:47:36,294 we met that threshold 5247 02:47:40,311 --> 02:47:40,561 for AB354 and so four years 5248 02:47:42,011 --> 02:47:42,261 ago Nevadaorks applied for and 5249 02:47:43,477 --> 02:47:43,727 received a good jobs 5250 02:47:44,044 --> 02:47:44,294 challengellen grant through the 5251 02:47:46,277 --> 02:47:46,527 US Department of Commerce and so 5252 02:47:47,511 --> 02:47:47,761 what it allowed us to do is 5253 02:47:48,244 --> 02:47:48,494 really transform our 5254 02:47:50,277 --> 02:47:50,527 organization from a kind of a 5255 02:47:53,511 --> 02:47:53,761 compliance type organization 5256 02:47:55,511 --> 02:47:55,761 to organization that really is 5257 02:47:56,277 --> 02:47:56,527 trying to be innovative and and 5258 02:47:57,744 --> 02:47:57,994 continuously improve and meet 5259 02:47:59,544 --> 02:47:59,794 these types of needs so it 5260 02:48:00,344 --> 02:48:00,594 helped us to stand up industry 5261 02:48:01,911 --> 02:48:02,161 sector partnerships which you 5262 02:48:02,577 --> 02:48:02,827 which you heard 5263 02:48:04,244 --> 02:48:04,494 this morning fromorkforce 5264 02:48:05,777 --> 02:48:06,027 Connections but what it also did 5265 02:48:08,311 --> 02:48:08,561 we had a very specific focus on 5266 02:48:10,244 --> 02:48:10,494 rural communities and the tribes 5267 02:48:12,011 --> 02:48:12,261 and so there are 22 tribes 5268 02:48:14,044 --> 02:48:14,294 across the the Nevada works 5269 02:48:15,511 --> 02:48:15,761 region and so we're very 5270 02:48:16,277 --> 02:48:16,527 intentional about it we use a 5271 02:48:18,244 --> 02:48:18,494 navigator model where you heard 5272 02:48:20,044 --> 02:48:20,294 the workforce 5273 02:48:21,744 --> 02:48:21,994 connectctions team so say that 5274 02:48:24,011 --> 02:48:24,261 27 different employing v hubs or 5275 02:48:25,744 --> 02:48:25,994 touch points throughout the 5276 02:48:28,244 --> 02:48:28,494 their region we have 9 5277 02:48:29,977 --> 02:48:30,227 official across70,000 square 5278 02:48:30,644 --> 02:48:30,894 miles 5279 02:48:33,744 --> 02:48:33,994 and so we recognize that that's 5280 02:48:34,477 --> 02:48:34,727 not going to do it that's not 5281 02:48:35,744 --> 02:48:35,994 gonna cut it and so we took a 5282 02:48:38,244 --> 02:48:38,494 navigator model where we put our 5283 02:48:40,211 --> 02:48:40,461 employees in those communities 5284 02:48:43,511 --> 02:48:43,761 and so with laptops and have 5285 02:48:46,011 --> 02:48:46,261 laptop have Wi i will travel and 5286 02:48:47,711 --> 02:48:47,961 so we go into these libraries, 5287 02:48:49,511 --> 02:48:49,761 we go into these community 5288 02:48:51,477 --> 02:48:51,727 centers and we serve individuals 5289 02:48:52,211 --> 02:48:52,461 not only through the employee v 5290 02:48:54,311 --> 02:48:54,561 hubs but also wherever you know 5291 02:48:56,311 --> 02:48:56,561 where we need to be in 5292 02:48:58,377 --> 02:48:58,627 schools high schools and so on 5293 02:48:59,011 --> 02:48:59,261 next slide 5294 02:49:02,011 --> 02:49:02,261 so we we didn't wait for the 5295 02:49:04,011 --> 02:49:04,261 tribes to come to us, right? We 5296 02:49:05,777 --> 02:49:06,027 we went to them and so the model 5297 02:49:09,777 --> 02:49:10,027 is recognizing that AB354, you 5298 02:49:11,811 --> 02:49:12,061 know fed into the the idea or 5299 02:49:13,511 --> 02:49:13,761 the concept that we needed to 5300 02:49:15,477 --> 02:49:15,727 serve the tribes have a specific 5301 02:49:16,144 --> 02:49:16,394 tribal navigator's name is 5302 02:49:17,777 --> 02:49:18,027 Thurmond he is a tribal member 5303 02:49:20,244 --> 02:49:20,494 and he does a great job of 5304 02:49:22,244 --> 02:49:22,494 building trust with the with the 5305 02:49:24,011 --> 02:49:24,261 tribes and so that has 5306 02:49:25,744 --> 02:49:25,994 evolved to the point where we 5307 02:49:26,377 --> 02:49:26,627 have now developed three 5308 02:49:28,011 --> 02:49:28,261 memorandum of understandings 5309 02:49:28,677 --> 02:49:28,927 with with three different tribes 5310 02:49:33,744 --> 02:49:33,994 where where we are their their 5311 02:49:34,511 --> 02:49:34,761 their workforce development 5312 02:49:35,744 --> 02:49:35,994 partner if you will or helping 5313 02:49:38,011 --> 02:49:38,261 them lead their workforce 5314 02:49:40,011 --> 02:49:40,261 development efforts we've also 5315 02:49:43,477 --> 02:49:43,727 worked with the erro offices in 5316 02:49:45,777 --> 02:49:46,027 in the tribes and so on so 5317 02:49:46,511 --> 02:49:46,761 without boring you I'll say that 5318 02:49:49,744 --> 02:49:49,994 you know that that AB354 has 5319 02:49:51,511 --> 02:49:51,761 really fed into our delivery 5320 02:49:53,744 --> 02:49:53,994 service model and and the tribes 5321 02:49:55,744 --> 02:49:55,994 are one specific place 5322 02:49:57,777 --> 02:49:58,027 that we can point to where 5323 02:49:58,344 --> 02:49:58,594 that happens next slide. 5324 02:50:01,944 --> 02:50:02,194 oh yes sir I got please again 5325 02:50:03,711 --> 02:50:03,961 yeah 5326 02:50:07,744 --> 02:50:07,994 so with regards to Ai and 5327 02:50:09,777 --> 02:50:10,027 automation really the same 5328 02:50:10,377 --> 02:50:10,627 conversation right how do we 5329 02:50:10,977 --> 02:50:11,227 predict 5330 02:50:14,244 --> 02:50:14,494 so 11 example right now 5331 02:50:15,977 --> 02:50:16,227 literally right now is happening 5332 02:50:18,011 --> 02:50:18,261 I think literally the meetings 5333 02:50:20,044 --> 02:50:20,294 having right now which is a 5334 02:50:23,477 --> 02:50:23,727 partnership with trucking 5335 02:50:24,211 --> 02:50:24,461 meadows Community College washo 5336 02:50:26,277 --> 02:50:26,527 County School District and they 5337 02:50:30,011 --> 02:50:30,261 came to Nevada works 5338 02:50:31,511 --> 02:50:31,761 and said look at you guys have 5339 02:50:32,111 --> 02:50:32,361 an industry sector partnerships 5340 02:50:34,244 --> 02:50:34,494 you're convening employers and 5341 02:50:36,244 --> 02:50:36,494 so you have that that ecosystem 5342 02:50:38,011 --> 02:50:38,261 prebuilt we want to talk about 5343 02:50:40,077 --> 02:50:40,327 AI we want to talk about how we 5344 02:50:40,744 --> 02:50:40,994 can educate our students we want 5345 02:50:44,044 --> 02:50:44,294 to talk about with employers 5346 02:50:45,744 --> 02:50:45,994 to figure out what what type of 5347 02:50:46,444 --> 02:50:46,694 training that they need and we 5348 02:50:47,744 --> 02:50:47,994 also want to get the signals 5349 02:50:49,744 --> 02:50:49,994 from employers on where they see 5350 02:50:51,511 --> 02:50:51,761 the puckettting where they see 5351 02:50:52,111 --> 02:50:52,361 you know where there might be 5352 02:50:53,977 --> 02:50:54,227 some some jobs that are that are 5353 02:50:56,011 --> 02:50:56,261 going away and so we've 5354 02:50:58,244 --> 02:50:58,494 convened e different industry 5355 02:51:00,277 --> 02:51:00,527 sectors and are having those 5356 02:51:02,244 --> 02:51:02,494 conversations right now and 5357 02:51:04,211 --> 02:51:04,461 so again it's it's recognizing 5358 02:51:06,444 --> 02:51:06,694 what what what the needs 5359 02:51:07,744 --> 02:51:07,994 right now but also trying to 5360 02:51:08,411 --> 02:51:08,661 project those out into the 5361 02:51:09,011 --> 02:51:09,261 future 5362 02:51:12,277 --> 02:51:12,527 and and I'll kind of pivot to 5363 02:51:14,277 --> 02:51:14,527 some of the kind of conceptual 5364 02:51:15,744 --> 02:51:15,994 questions here right so the 5365 02:51:17,477 --> 02:51:17,727 model in northern Nevada is 5366 02:51:18,244 --> 02:51:18,494 different the employment 5367 02:51:19,777 --> 02:51:20,027 rehab model in northernnevada is 5368 02:51:20,411 --> 02:51:20,661 different than here in southern 5369 02:51:22,277 --> 02:51:22,527 Nevada not only in the quantity 5370 02:51:26,011 --> 02:51:26,261 of of of hubs that we have 5371 02:51:28,044 --> 02:51:28,294 but also in order to develop 5372 02:51:30,244 --> 02:51:30,494 some economies of scale if if 5373 02:51:32,311 --> 02:51:32,561 you recall the the the former 5374 02:51:35,744 --> 02:51:35,994 job connect offices right? so 5375 02:51:37,777 --> 02:51:38,027 so Nevada works and and deed are 5376 02:51:38,444 --> 02:51:38,694 basically repurposed or 5377 02:51:39,011 --> 02:51:39,261 rebranded through 5378 02:51:41,744 --> 02:51:41,994 this employee and v her 5379 02:51:45,744 --> 02:51:45,994 branding the existing 5380 02:51:47,477 --> 02:51:47,727 jobb connect offices that 5381 02:51:48,044 --> 02:51:48,294 were throughout the throughout 5382 02:51:48,711 --> 02:51:48,961 the region 5383 02:51:51,711 --> 02:51:51,961 and so we designated those as 5384 02:51:52,511 --> 02:51:52,761 through wheo it's called an 5385 02:51:54,011 --> 02:51:54,261 affiliate site and so that means 5386 02:51:56,011 --> 02:51:56,261 that that that we owe us 5387 02:51:58,011 --> 02:51:58,261 services are available there 5388 02:51:59,811 --> 02:52:00,061 we do have what's called a 5389 02:52:00,311 --> 02:52:00,561 comprehensive center where we're 5390 02:52:02,011 --> 02:52:02,261 required to bring in multiple 5391 02:52:04,277 --> 02:52:04,527 partners and and you know 5392 02:52:07,777 --> 02:52:08,027 convene thosenevada works is the 5393 02:52:09,777 --> 02:52:10,027 the leaseholder the the operator 5394 02:52:11,511 --> 02:52:11,761 you know making sure that that 5395 02:52:12,311 --> 02:52:12,561 we're we're we're pointing 5396 02:52:14,244 --> 02:52:14,494 people in the right direction 5397 02:52:17,677 --> 02:52:17,927 but but also recognizing that 5398 02:52:18,344 --> 02:52:18,594 uhsenator 5399 02:52:21,477 --> 02:52:21,727 you know your experience as 5400 02:52:22,511 --> 02:52:22,761 unfortunate as it was is a 5401 02:52:25,777 --> 02:52:26,027 lesson for us but at the same 5402 02:52:26,477 --> 02:52:26,727 time 5403 02:52:28,311 --> 02:52:28,561 what and and this is you know 5404 02:52:29,011 --> 02:52:29,261 this this is 5405 02:52:32,544 --> 02:52:32,794 tough because the workforce 5406 02:52:34,044 --> 02:52:34,294 innovation andpportunity Act 5407 02:52:35,511 --> 02:52:35,761 allows for the creation of these 5408 02:52:37,511 --> 02:52:37,761 local areas these local boards 5409 02:52:38,144 --> 02:52:38,394 what it doesn't give us is 5410 02:52:40,311 --> 02:52:40,561 authority to tell these partners 5411 02:52:43,477 --> 02:52:43,727 what to do and so we convened 5412 02:52:45,511 --> 02:52:45,761 these these we convene 5413 02:52:47,544 --> 02:52:47,794 these hubs and we develop 5414 02:52:48,311 --> 02:52:48,561 memorandums of understanding and 5415 02:52:50,011 --> 02:52:50,261 how we're going to deliver 5416 02:52:52,311 --> 02:52:52,561 services and and the local 5417 02:52:55,511 --> 02:52:55,761 boards are responsible for these 5418 02:52:56,311 --> 02:52:56,561 American job centers the 5419 02:52:58,044 --> 02:52:58,294 challenges and and I shouldn't 5420 02:52:58,711 --> 02:52:58,961 say challenge the the where 5421 02:52:59,277 --> 02:52:59,527 where there 5422 02:53:02,244 --> 02:53:02,494 may be better opportunities is 5423 02:53:04,277 --> 02:53:04,527 that you know we have to rely on 5424 02:53:06,244 --> 02:53:06,494 good graces and and and 5425 02:53:07,744 --> 02:53:07,994 memorandums of understanding and 5426 02:53:10,244 --> 02:53:10,494 so on and so if a partner is 5427 02:53:13,477 --> 02:53:13,727 serving someone in a particular 5428 02:53:16,044 --> 02:53:16,294 way we can help we can you know 5429 02:53:17,777 --> 02:53:18,027 we we talk about continuous 5430 02:53:19,511 --> 02:53:19,761 improvement, we talk about best 5431 02:53:20,144 --> 02:53:20,394 practice, we talk about the 5432 02:53:21,777 --> 02:53:22,027 customer experience we talk 5433 02:53:23,777 --> 02:53:24,027 about humancented design we talk 5434 02:53:24,477 --> 02:53:24,727 about what should happen when 5435 02:53:26,311 --> 02:53:26,561 somebody walks through that door 5436 02:53:28,011 --> 02:53:28,261 and and the routing that they 5437 02:53:28,677 --> 02:53:28,927 should receive based on 5438 02:53:31,744 --> 02:53:31,994 you know a questionnaire 5439 02:53:33,511 --> 02:53:33,761 that they start with but then 5440 02:53:35,511 --> 02:53:35,761 continue to as they meet with 5441 02:53:36,277 --> 02:53:36,527 partners that partner may 5442 02:53:38,277 --> 02:53:38,527 uncover something else and so we 5443 02:53:40,277 --> 02:53:40,527 route them through not only the 5444 02:53:43,477 --> 02:53:43,727 the literal physical location 5445 02:53:45,511 --> 02:53:45,761 but throughout the ecosystem and 5446 02:53:46,311 --> 02:53:46,561 so we're actually obligated to 5447 02:53:49,511 --> 02:53:49,761 do a warm handoffs where 5448 02:53:50,277 --> 02:53:50,527 where through these centers 5449 02:53:52,311 --> 02:53:52,561 we're obligated to say it's not 5450 02:53:54,011 --> 02:53:54,261 just a business card and go 5451 02:53:56,011 --> 02:53:56,261 across across town in good luck 5452 02:53:56,644 --> 02:53:56,894 it's actually making those 5453 02:53:58,377 --> 02:53:58,627 connections and so one of 5454 02:53:58,944 --> 02:53:59,194 the things one of the 5455 02:54:01,744 --> 02:54:01,994 tools that we've adopted in 5456 02:54:02,377 --> 02:54:02,627 northern nevada is a is a 5457 02:54:05,511 --> 02:54:05,761 product called Alice and and and 5458 02:54:06,211 --> 02:54:06,461 they also use it here in 5459 02:54:07,611 --> 02:54:07,861 southern event I think for youth 5460 02:54:08,311 --> 02:54:08,561 is that correct 5461 02:54:10,177 --> 02:54:10,427 is that right? So basically it 5462 02:54:13,511 --> 02:54:13,761 is this this virtual ecosystem 5463 02:54:15,544 --> 02:54:15,794 where nonco located partners 5464 02:54:17,511 --> 02:54:17,761 can be part of the system 5465 02:54:19,711 --> 02:54:19,961 and we make those referrals 5466 02:54:21,511 --> 02:54:21,761 they're they're trackable and 5467 02:54:22,444 --> 02:54:22,694 and so on so I say all that to 5468 02:54:25,511 --> 02:54:25,761 say that there's a lot of good 5469 02:54:27,511 --> 02:54:27,761 work that is being done. 5470 02:54:29,511 --> 02:54:29,761 Dieter again is a great partner 5471 02:54:31,511 --> 02:54:31,761 you heard that from from 5472 02:54:32,077 --> 02:54:32,327 Workforce Connections I'll echo 5473 02:54:34,311 --> 02:54:34,561 that as well one of the 5474 02:54:35,744 --> 02:54:35,994 things is we think in terms of 5475 02:54:37,711 --> 02:54:37,961 funding you heard a you know 5476 02:54:38,377 --> 02:54:38,627 you heard us this morning say 5477 02:54:40,211 --> 02:54:40,461 eligibility you heard us say 5478 02:54:42,177 --> 02:54:42,427 barriers and so on and the 5479 02:54:44,444 --> 02:54:44,694 federal dollars are the ones 5480 02:54:46,177 --> 02:54:46,427 that generally are the most 5481 02:54:48,011 --> 02:54:48,261 prescriptive right? herere's 5482 02:54:49,711 --> 02:54:49,961 here's the money and here's the 5483 02:54:52,011 --> 02:54:52,261 eligibility thresholds and 5484 02:54:53,511 --> 02:54:53,761 sodier has been and has been 5485 02:54:55,777 --> 02:54:56,027 quite generous with to both 5486 02:54:57,977 --> 02:54:58,227 local boards but but that 5487 02:54:59,744 --> 02:54:59,994 funding allows us to do things 5488 02:55:00,377 --> 02:55:00,627 like the industry sector 5489 02:55:02,244 --> 02:55:02,494 partnerships like some of the 5490 02:55:03,977 --> 02:55:04,227 other efforts that that it's 5491 02:55:05,511 --> 02:55:05,761 really hard to do withwhe funny 5492 02:55:06,411 --> 02:55:06,661 you know pause there and answer 5493 02:55:07,077 --> 02:55:07,327 any questions you might have 5494 02:55:09,811 --> 02:55:10,061 assemblywoman Anderson. 5495 02:55:13,944 --> 02:55:14,194 Thank you chair and thank you 5496 02:55:15,977 --> 02:55:16,227 for the presentation I'll give 5497 02:55:17,477 --> 02:55:17,727 you a little chance to get some 5498 02:55:18,444 --> 02:55:18,694 water actually have two 5499 02:55:20,244 --> 02:55:20,494 questions. The first question 5500 02:55:23,511 --> 02:55:23,761 comes from slide8s. I I really 5501 02:55:25,511 --> 02:55:25,761 like the fact that you made it 5502 02:55:26,244 --> 02:55:26,494 very clear that you came out and 5503 02:55:28,311 --> 02:55:28,561 worked with the tribal councils 5504 02:55:28,977 --> 02:55:29,227 on your own 5505 02:55:31,744 --> 02:55:31,994 when it came to creating a 5506 02:55:33,744 --> 02:55:33,994 dedicated tribal navigator wass 5507 02:55:35,477 --> 02:55:35,727 this somebody that you worked 5508 02:55:36,244 --> 02:55:36,494 with through the department with 5509 02:55:37,977 --> 02:55:38,227 Stacy Montooth's department or 5510 02:55:39,911 --> 02:55:40,161 was this something that you 5511 02:55:40,477 --> 02:55:40,727 found somebody on your own with. 5512 02:55:43,477 --> 02:55:43,727 yeah we act uhmier for the 5513 02:55:44,077 --> 02:55:44,327 record thank you for the 5514 02:55:45,977 --> 02:55:46,227 question we actually 5515 02:55:49,511 --> 02:55:49,761 predated really that the the the 5516 02:55:51,977 --> 02:55:52,227 formal establishment so it 5517 02:55:53,744 --> 02:55:53,994 it actually it's kind of a 5518 02:55:55,511 --> 02:55:55,761 little bit in reverse so yeah we 5519 02:55:57,511 --> 02:55:57,761 did we did hire a travel 5520 02:55:59,711 --> 02:55:59,961 navigator and and and so part 5521 02:56:00,444 --> 02:56:00,694 of what the what our ribone 5522 02:56:02,011 --> 02:56:02,261 navigator does is works with 5523 02:56:05,511 --> 02:56:05,761 Stacy but also you and our 5524 02:56:08,244 --> 02:56:08,494 tech hub has a as part of 5525 02:56:10,077 --> 02:56:10,327 that they have a tribal 5526 02:56:10,644 --> 02:56:10,894 component and so we actually 5527 02:56:13,977 --> 02:56:14,227 wes we provide a great deal 5528 02:56:16,244 --> 02:56:16,494 of assistance to both Stacy 5529 02:56:17,711 --> 02:56:17,961 and to you and our tech hub 5530 02:56:20,311 --> 02:56:20,561 thank you mayy I ask a second 5531 02:56:20,911 --> 02:56:21,161 question chairir? 5532 02:56:23,977 --> 02:56:24,227 thank you my other question 5533 02:56:25,977 --> 02:56:26,227 had to do towards the end where 5534 02:56:27,844 --> 02:56:28,094 it had to do we turn employer 5535 02:56:28,511 --> 02:56:28,761 signals into targeted training. 5536 02:56:30,177 --> 02:56:30,427 Is this done by 5537 02:56:33,511 --> 02:56:33,761 a questionnaire that is asked 5538 02:56:35,477 --> 02:56:35,727 about or is this done by 5539 02:56:36,211 --> 02:56:36,461 voluntary because you had 5540 02:56:38,377 --> 02:56:38,627 mentioned earlier in the program 5541 02:56:39,077 --> 02:56:39,327 finding out if somebody had been 5542 02:56:40,544 --> 02:56:40,794 a member of the 5543 02:56:44,211 --> 02:56:44,461 think the foster care so is this 5544 02:56:46,177 --> 02:56:46,427 a voluntary thing or is it that 5545 02:56:47,944 --> 02:56:48,194 you expect everybody to fill out 5546 02:56:48,644 --> 02:56:48,894 questionnaires. how do you find 5547 02:56:51,711 --> 02:56:51,961 out? Yeaheltster record so a 5548 02:56:53,711 --> 02:56:53,961 little bit of all that and so 5549 02:56:54,411 --> 02:56:54,661 as we convene employers through 5550 02:56:55,977 --> 02:56:56,227 the industry sector partnerships 5551 02:56:58,377 --> 02:56:58,627 so the model is we have to start 5552 02:57:01,511 --> 02:57:01,761 from somewhere so we we have 5553 02:57:03,744 --> 02:57:03,994 economists that basically 5554 02:57:05,977 --> 02:57:06,227 does some research and and 5555 02:57:07,777 --> 02:57:08,027 tries to identify the signals 5556 02:57:09,477 --> 02:57:09,727 that were that are that are seen 5557 02:57:10,244 --> 02:57:10,494 you know at the at the federal 5558 02:57:10,911 --> 02:57:11,161 or even state level and then we 5559 02:57:11,577 --> 02:57:11,827 take that to 5560 02:57:13,744 --> 02:57:13,994 these industry sector partners 5561 02:57:15,944 --> 02:57:16,194 and say validate this is is what 5562 02:57:17,944 --> 02:57:18,194 we're seeing knows is this data 5563 02:57:19,511 --> 02:57:19,761 resonates sometimes it doesn't 5564 02:57:20,211 --> 02:57:20,461 sometimes as we think in terms 5565 02:57:22,344 --> 02:57:22,594 of regions there are times 5566 02:57:22,911 --> 02:57:23,161 where you know 5567 02:57:27,477 --> 02:57:27,727 for as an example you know is 5568 02:57:28,077 --> 02:57:28,327 this the age you you know this 5569 02:57:29,744 --> 02:57:29,994 is what the the thes the federal 5570 02:57:31,744 --> 02:57:31,994 says and and and some of the 5571 02:57:32,344 --> 02:57:32,594 importers like I wish I could 5572 02:57:33,977 --> 02:57:34,227 pay that right there's no way 5573 02:57:35,744 --> 02:57:35,994 that we could hire somebody for 5574 02:57:37,477 --> 02:57:37,727 for that wage and I just use 5575 02:57:38,211 --> 02:57:38,461 that as an example but we do 5576 02:57:41,511 --> 02:57:41,761 provide surveys we do have 5577 02:57:44,011 --> 02:57:44,261 you know conversations we do 5578 02:57:46,011 --> 02:57:46,261 that not only in the the 5579 02:57:47,744 --> 02:57:47,994 formal convenings and and we 5580 02:57:49,511 --> 02:57:49,761 have multiple different levels 5581 02:57:50,111 --> 02:57:50,361 where there's the employers are 5582 02:57:51,511 --> 02:57:51,761 involved and then we have a 5583 02:57:52,611 --> 02:57:52,861 separate meeting where 5584 02:57:53,044 --> 02:57:53,294 where where we have 5585 02:57:57,477 --> 02:57:57,727 the the ecosystem say ok this 5586 02:57:58,144 --> 02:57:58,394 is what we heard now how are we 5587 02:57:59,744 --> 02:57:59,994 going to react and we do that 5588 02:58:01,744 --> 02:58:01,994 intentionally because what we 5589 02:58:03,977 --> 02:58:04,227 don't want to do is you know, 5590 02:58:05,977 --> 02:58:06,227 have this this model where we're 5591 02:58:06,677 --> 02:58:06,927 here from the government and 5592 02:58:07,744 --> 02:58:07,994 here's what we can do for you 5593 02:58:09,511 --> 02:58:09,761 that's not the model right? The 5594 02:58:10,444 --> 02:58:10,694 model is let's listen to what 5595 02:58:12,011 --> 02:58:12,261 the employers are you know are 5596 02:58:13,511 --> 02:58:13,761 signaling and what they're 5597 02:58:14,177 --> 02:58:14,427 actually telling us and then how 5598 02:58:16,244 --> 02:58:16,494 do we activate the system, 5599 02:58:19,477 --> 02:58:19,727 activate partners to to meet 5600 02:58:20,444 --> 02:58:20,694 those needs so short answers a 5601 02:58:21,111 --> 02:58:21,361 little bit of all that. 5602 02:58:25,477 --> 02:58:25,727 thank you and so that brought up 5603 02:58:27,977 --> 02:58:28,227 a followup if I may I'm just 5604 02:58:29,744 --> 02:58:29,994 gonna go forward. especially 5605 02:58:30,344 --> 02:58:30,594 with the fact that this is 5606 02:58:31,744 --> 02:58:31,994 around the pyramidlake area so 5607 02:58:33,477 --> 02:58:33,727 that it automatically made me 5608 02:58:36,011 --> 02:58:36,261 think of how there's a large 5609 02:58:38,244 --> 02:58:38,494 boom in that area of numerous 5610 02:58:40,211 --> 02:58:40,461 different organizations coming 5611 02:58:41,811 --> 02:58:42,061 out there so is this more 5612 02:58:45,511 --> 02:58:45,761 employeed driven or is this more 5613 02:58:47,477 --> 02:58:47,727 employerd driven that's number 5614 02:58:49,511 --> 02:58:49,761 one and then number 2 as I look 5615 02:58:50,277 --> 02:58:50,527 out and I see a few friends that 5616 02:58:51,744 --> 02:58:51,994 are involved in some other 5617 02:58:53,744 --> 02:58:53,994 things do you ever work with the 5618 02:58:54,411 --> 02:58:54,661 unions in apprenticeship 5619 02:58:54,977 --> 02:58:55,227 programs 5620 02:58:59,477 --> 02:58:59,727 yes to the second question but 5621 02:59:00,211 --> 02:59:00,461 and I'll elaborate just but 5622 02:59:02,011 --> 02:59:02,261 can you I'm not sure I 5623 02:59:03,477 --> 02:59:03,727 understood the first question 5624 02:59:04,211 --> 02:59:04,461 completely. are you asking for 5625 02:59:07,511 --> 02:59:07,761 the when it comes to the listen 5626 02:59:09,477 --> 02:59:09,727 to employers actually you say it 5627 02:59:10,511 --> 02:59:10,761 right there that like with Ai 5628 02:59:12,011 --> 02:59:12,261 changes that you need to make on 5629 02:59:13,777 --> 02:59:14,027 training is this based upon what 5630 02:59:15,511 --> 02:59:15,761 the employer's need or what the 5631 02:59:17,777 --> 02:59:18,027 employees need so like sometimes 5632 02:59:19,477 --> 02:59:19,727 I'd love to think it's both 5633 02:59:20,244 --> 02:59:20,494 honestly and and and what I 5634 02:59:22,011 --> 02:59:22,261 mean by that is you know 5635 02:59:23,511 --> 02:59:23,761 we're getting these signals or 5636 02:59:24,144 --> 02:59:24,394 the data directly from 5637 02:59:24,611 --> 02:59:24,861 employers 5638 02:59:27,744 --> 02:59:27,994 but but as part of these 5639 02:59:29,744 --> 02:59:29,994 conversations we're asking 5640 02:59:32,244 --> 02:59:32,494 them to kind of tell us what the 5641 02:59:34,244 --> 02:59:34,494 ecosystem needs to do for those 5642 02:59:35,977 --> 02:59:36,227 employees that may not you know 5643 02:59:39,477 --> 02:59:39,727 may not survive or or or might 5644 02:59:42,011 --> 02:59:42,261 need to transition so it it's 5645 02:59:43,511 --> 02:59:43,761 you know the industry sector 5646 02:59:44,244 --> 02:59:44,494 partnerships are definitely 5647 02:59:47,511 --> 02:59:47,761 employerd driven the the rest 5648 02:59:49,477 --> 02:59:49,727 of the ecosystem as we think in 5649 02:59:50,244 --> 02:59:50,494 terms of our two sets of 5650 02:59:52,011 --> 02:59:52,261 customers employers and and 5651 02:59:53,511 --> 02:59:53,761 career seekers the career 5652 02:59:54,111 --> 02:59:54,361 seekers can also be a source of 5653 02:59:58,011 --> 02:59:58,261 knowledge and so we tap into 5654 03:00:00,011 --> 03:00:00,261 that as well with regards to 5655 03:00:03,511 --> 03:00:03,761 the to the unions short 5656 03:00:06,044 --> 03:00:06,294 answer is yes and so we 5657 03:00:07,744 --> 03:00:07,994 have the builders and trades 5658 03:00:10,011 --> 03:00:10,261 union of northern Nevada is on 5659 03:00:12,277 --> 03:00:12,527 our board obunnner is a trusted 5660 03:00:14,011 --> 03:00:14,261 partner. we work with Rob all 5661 03:00:16,277 --> 03:00:16,527 the time nevada works and and 5662 03:00:17,511 --> 03:00:17,761 one of the things I hadn't 5663 03:00:18,277 --> 03:00:18,527 mentioned yet is that Novaors is 5664 03:00:21,477 --> 03:00:21,727 so much more than WIOA we have 5665 03:00:23,544 --> 03:00:23,794 ive years ago when I came on 5666 03:00:24,111 --> 03:00:24,361 as CEO we were let's for 5667 03:00:24,677 --> 03:00:24,927 purposes of this 5668 03:00:28,244 --> 03:00:28,494 conversation say we were100% 5669 03:00:30,044 --> 03:00:30,294 weoa which is around6 million 5670 03:00:32,277 --> 03:00:32,527 dollars a year we have 5671 03:00:34,011 --> 03:00:34,261 received I just mentioned a 5672 03:00:36,011 --> 03:00:36,261 good jobs challengellen grant we 5673 03:00:37,744 --> 03:00:37,994 received aer apprenticeship 5674 03:00:38,344 --> 03:00:38,594 buildingilding America grant 5675 03:00:39,977 --> 03:00:40,227 which is a statewide grant that 5676 03:00:41,777 --> 03:00:42,027 we work with with Workforce 5677 03:00:43,777 --> 03:00:44,027 nections on and I could go down 5678 03:00:46,011 --> 03:00:46,261 the list but so we always now 5679 03:00:48,277 --> 03:00:48,527 about 20 to 22% of our funding 5680 03:00:49,744 --> 03:00:49,994 so we've really cast a wide net 5681 03:00:51,777 --> 03:00:52,027 and I say all that to say that 5682 03:00:53,777 --> 03:00:54,027 you know we we think in terms 5683 03:00:54,444 --> 03:00:54,694 of capacity right as we have 5684 03:00:55,111 --> 03:00:55,361 somebody 5685 03:00:57,711 --> 03:00:57,961 coming into the ecosystem, how 5686 03:00:58,444 --> 03:00:58,694 can we bring additional capacity 5687 03:01:00,244 --> 03:01:00,494 to bear and so apprenticeships 5688 03:01:02,011 --> 03:01:02,261 is part of that model but 5689 03:01:03,477 --> 03:01:03,727 I'll actually take it one step 5690 03:01:05,511 --> 03:01:05,761 further the answer is yes we are 5691 03:01:07,477 --> 03:01:07,727 unions and trades but that 5692 03:01:08,244 --> 03:01:08,494 the apprenticeship 5693 03:01:10,011 --> 03:01:10,261 buildingilding America grant is 5694 03:01:11,811 --> 03:01:12,061 also nontraditional and nonunion 5695 03:01:13,511 --> 03:01:13,761 so we're making very very 5696 03:01:15,777 --> 03:01:16,027 intentional around working 5697 03:01:18,011 --> 03:01:18,261 with UnlV around the 5698 03:01:19,777 --> 03:01:20,027 professionalsion the teacher 5699 03:01:21,477 --> 03:01:21,727 paraprofessional apprenticeship 5700 03:01:23,511 --> 03:01:23,761 have also Nevadaorks has 5701 03:01:24,111 --> 03:01:24,361 become what's called an 5702 03:01:24,677 --> 03:01:24,927 intermediary for a couple of 5703 03:01:27,477 --> 03:01:27,727 different apprenticeships and 5704 03:01:28,444 --> 03:01:28,694 the and the idea there is that 5705 03:01:30,277 --> 03:01:30,527 reduce some of the 5706 03:01:33,511 --> 03:01:33,761 friction and and paperwork and 5707 03:01:34,111 --> 03:01:34,361 and whatnot that goes in so 5708 03:01:38,211 --> 03:01:38,461 we've done that for CAs 5709 03:01:40,611 --> 03:01:40,861 surface we've done it for 5710 03:01:41,177 --> 03:01:41,427 C andA for 5711 03:01:44,011 --> 03:01:44,261 early childhood education we're 5712 03:01:45,911 --> 03:01:46,161 working in children's cas so and 5713 03:01:46,611 --> 03:01:46,861 and I can just go down the list 5714 03:01:49,511 --> 03:01:49,761 really appreciate that I think 5715 03:01:50,211 --> 03:01:50,461 when I was listening to that 5716 03:01:51,711 --> 03:01:51,961 answer though it did come up 5717 03:01:52,277 --> 03:01:52,527 with one more question I'm not 5718 03:01:53,977 --> 03:01:54,227 sure if this is actually in your 5719 03:01:54,677 --> 03:01:54,927 purview or not 5720 03:01:57,744 --> 03:01:57,994 do you ever work with companies 5721 03:01:59,477 --> 03:01:59,727 that basically are doing this 5722 03:02:01,477 --> 03:02:01,727 hire to fire practice which 5723 03:02:03,744 --> 03:02:03,994 unfortunately is a reality and 5724 03:02:04,377 --> 03:02:04,627 more and more manufacturing 5725 03:02:06,211 --> 03:02:06,461 areasil sir for the record so so 5726 03:02:07,711 --> 03:02:07,961 that is antithetical to our 5727 03:02:09,511 --> 03:02:09,761 model right? so if we think in 5728 03:02:11,977 --> 03:02:12,227 terms of of WIA for example so 5729 03:02:13,744 --> 03:02:13,994 all the funding that we get has 5730 03:02:15,511 --> 03:02:15,761 metrics associated with it and 5731 03:02:16,211 --> 03:02:16,461 so we do the good work because 5732 03:02:17,511 --> 03:02:17,761 it's the right thing to do, but 5733 03:02:18,211 --> 03:02:18,461 we also have to make sure that 5734 03:02:19,777 --> 03:02:20,027 we check boxes so we can 5735 03:02:20,244 --> 03:02:20,494 continue to get that funding 5736 03:02:22,244 --> 03:02:22,494 and so if we think in terms of 5737 03:02:25,744 --> 03:02:25,994 WIOA you saw that you know 5738 03:02:27,511 --> 03:02:27,761 Ricardo mentioned you know 5739 03:02:28,111 --> 03:02:28,361 employed second quarter after 5740 03:02:29,511 --> 03:02:29,761 exit employed fourth quarter 5741 03:02:31,877 --> 03:02:32,127 after exit and so on so 5742 03:02:35,744 --> 03:02:35,994 we would never want to deal with 5743 03:02:36,477 --> 03:02:36,727 those hire to fire but the 5744 03:02:38,244 --> 03:02:38,494 system the way it's developed we 5745 03:02:39,744 --> 03:02:39,994 have to be very conscious of 5746 03:02:41,511 --> 03:02:41,761 that so the short answers no we 5747 03:02:43,844 --> 03:02:44,094 we know we we does it happen 5748 03:02:45,777 --> 03:02:46,027 sure I mean but but you know 5749 03:02:47,577 --> 03:02:47,827 really the the model that we're 5750 03:02:48,511 --> 03:02:48,761 trying to create is this is a a 5751 03:02:49,177 --> 03:02:49,427 a 5752 03:02:52,377 --> 03:02:52,627 collaborative and 5753 03:02:54,277 --> 03:02:54,527 ecosystem and quite frankly it 5754 03:02:57,511 --> 03:02:57,761 it those those organizations 5755 03:02:58,144 --> 03:02:58,394 those businesses that are hired 5756 03:02:59,777 --> 03:03:00,027 to fire they're going to get 5757 03:03:01,511 --> 03:03:01,761 selected out over time for sure 5758 03:03:02,144 --> 03:03:02,394 just want to make sure that 5759 03:03:03,777 --> 03:03:04,027 that's on the record that they 5760 03:03:05,744 --> 03:03:05,994 should not be working with 5761 03:03:08,044 --> 03:03:08,294 because that is taking advantage 5762 03:03:10,477 --> 03:03:10,727 of employers go out of business 5763 03:03:11,144 --> 03:03:11,394 thank you thank you chair 5764 03:03:15,744 --> 03:03:15,994 thank you for your presentation 5765 03:03:17,644 --> 03:03:17,894 we appreciate you coming 5766 03:03:19,844 --> 03:03:20,094 we will 5767 03:03:23,477 --> 03:03:23,727 close the presentation from 5768 03:03:24,077 --> 03:03:24,327 battlettleorks and call Mr 5769 03:03:26,477 --> 03:03:26,727 Corbett up executive director of 5770 03:03:28,011 --> 03:03:28,261 the division of workforce 5771 03:03:29,644 --> 03:03:29,894 andconomicvelopment of College 5772 03:03:30,311 --> 03:03:30,561 of southern Nevada. 5773 03:03:35,644 --> 03:03:35,894 for the record we will go to 5774 03:03:36,211 --> 03:03:36,461 lunch at1:30. 5775 03:03:38,211 --> 03:03:38,461 we will try to fit in as much 5776 03:03:39,677 --> 03:03:39,927 as we can and then we'll break 5777 03:04:13,477 --> 03:04:13,727 Good afternoon everybody 5778 03:04:14,211 --> 03:04:14,461 Stavanorbett with the 5779 03:04:15,711 --> 03:04:15,961 collegelege of southern Nevada I 5780 03:04:16,477 --> 03:04:16,727 currently serve as the executive 5781 03:04:18,277 --> 03:04:18,527 director for the division of 5782 03:04:20,311 --> 03:04:20,561 workforce madam chairir 5783 03:04:22,011 --> 03:04:22,261 honorable members thank you for 5784 03:04:23,511 --> 03:04:23,761 the opportunity to come and 5785 03:04:25,477 --> 03:04:25,727 share about the great work that 5786 03:04:27,511 --> 03:04:27,761 is happening not only with the 5787 03:04:28,211 --> 03:04:28,461 two presentations that you heard 5788 03:04:30,244 --> 03:04:30,494 prior to myself but also 5789 03:04:31,977 --> 03:04:32,227 within the College of southern 5790 03:04:34,011 --> 03:04:34,261 Nevada as a whole. one of the 5791 03:04:35,711 --> 03:04:35,961 things I do want to associate 5792 03:04:38,211 --> 03:04:38,461 upfront is in thewoa space 5793 03:04:39,744 --> 03:04:39,994 College of southern Nevada 5794 03:04:40,277 --> 03:04:40,527 particularly our adult basic 5795 03:04:40,844 --> 03:04:41,094 education 5796 03:04:44,177 --> 03:04:44,427 program serves asitle 2 when we 5797 03:04:46,477 --> 03:04:46,727 talk about the weoa ecosystem 5798 03:04:47,744 --> 03:04:47,994 and so you've heard a lot of 5799 03:04:49,977 --> 03:04:50,227 Title1 TitleI, etc and so we're 5800 03:04:52,011 --> 03:04:52,261 number two and that is through 5801 03:04:53,977 --> 03:04:54,227 our AFfla which is the American 5802 03:04:56,211 --> 03:04:56,461 Education Family Literacy Act 5803 03:04:58,244 --> 03:04:58,494 the state that is funded that is 5804 03:04:59,511 --> 03:04:59,761 federal dollars from the 5805 03:05:01,511 --> 03:05:01,761 department of Education that 5806 03:05:02,111 --> 03:05:02,361 runs through the Nevada 5807 03:05:04,211 --> 03:05:04,461 Department of Education goes 5808 03:05:06,244 --> 03:05:06,494 to all the community colleges 5809 03:05:08,211 --> 03:05:08,461 clark County school district 5810 03:05:10,044 --> 03:05:10,294 some of the universities 5811 03:05:10,544 --> 03:05:10,794 colleges southern 5812 03:05:13,477 --> 03:05:13,727 Nevada receives about 2.3 5813 03:05:14,177 --> 03:05:14,427 million of that to serve 5814 03:05:17,511 --> 03:05:17,761 approximately1000 students 5815 03:05:19,511 --> 03:05:19,761 which are individuals who do not 5816 03:05:21,511 --> 03:05:21,761 have a high school diploma and 5817 03:05:22,211 --> 03:05:22,461 looking so just want to preface 5818 03:05:24,211 --> 03:05:24,461 that role and what the 5819 03:05:26,277 --> 03:05:26,527 opportunity is and whatitle2 and 5820 03:05:26,944 --> 03:05:27,194 how it's narrated for the 5821 03:05:27,511 --> 03:05:27,761 support. 5822 03:05:31,511 --> 03:05:31,761 just to give you a brief 5823 03:05:33,511 --> 03:05:33,761 overview we are the largest 5824 03:05:34,077 --> 03:05:34,327 workforce training provider in 5825 03:05:35,711 --> 03:05:35,961 southern Nevada again College 5826 03:05:37,711 --> 03:05:37,961 Souther Nevada has closed to 5827 03:05:40,244 --> 03:05:40,494 uh35,000 students we do have 5828 03:05:41,977 --> 03:05:42,227 what we call community embedded 5829 03:05:44,211 --> 03:05:44,461 or satellite campuses we have 5830 03:05:47,511 --> 03:05:47,761 about13 of these campuses across 5831 03:05:49,477 --> 03:05:49,727 the geographic area all in 5832 03:05:51,511 --> 03:05:51,761 southern Nevada all the way from 5833 03:05:53,511 --> 03:05:53,761 each municipality to 5834 03:05:55,677 --> 03:05:55,927 unincorporated to unincorporated 5835 03:05:56,377 --> 03:05:56,627 all the way out to mesquite 5836 03:05:58,244 --> 03:05:58,494 our newest workforce center is 5837 03:05:59,977 --> 03:06:00,227 called the westide Education 5838 03:06:02,211 --> 03:06:02,461 Training Center this is embedded 5839 03:06:03,944 --> 03:06:04,194 right off of the historic west 5840 03:06:06,211 --> 03:06:06,461 side it is also in line with the 5841 03:06:07,944 --> 03:06:08,194 census data in terms of where 5842 03:06:09,511 --> 03:06:09,761 the highest number of 5843 03:06:11,511 --> 03:06:11,761 individuals who are unemployed 5844 03:06:13,511 --> 03:06:13,761 and also along with individuals 5845 03:06:14,244 --> 03:06:14,494 who have opportunities for 5846 03:06:17,477 --> 03:06:17,727 social and economic mobility 5847 03:06:19,777 --> 03:06:20,027 this was a huge opportunity and 5848 03:06:21,744 --> 03:06:21,994 collaboration with not only 5849 03:06:23,544 --> 03:06:23,794 the local workforce board but 5850 03:06:25,644 --> 03:06:25,894 also the city of Las Vegas the 5851 03:06:26,311 --> 03:06:26,561 governor's office of economic 5852 03:06:27,977 --> 03:06:28,227 ve lo p ment we've been open 5853 03:06:30,177 --> 03:06:30,427 about six months now and to date 5854 03:06:33,711 --> 03:06:33,961 have served about300 individuals 5855 03:06:37,477 --> 03:06:37,727 uh123 of those have already 5856 03:06:38,444 --> 03:06:38,694 completed short term industry 5857 03:06:39,944 --> 03:06:40,194 recognized credentials 5858 03:06:41,977 --> 03:06:42,227 approximately 90% of those 5859 03:06:45,511 --> 03:06:45,761 individuals are employed this 5860 03:06:47,744 --> 03:06:47,994 also is in collaboration with 5861 03:06:49,977 --> 03:06:50,227 local workforce board as well as 5862 03:06:50,711 --> 03:06:50,961 Deeter who has been mentioned 5863 03:06:51,711 --> 03:06:51,961 who is also a partner for us. 5864 03:06:54,211 --> 03:06:54,461 I mentioned a little bit about 5865 03:06:56,011 --> 03:06:56,261 the adult education workforce 5866 03:06:58,011 --> 03:06:58,261 training one of the things that 5867 03:06:59,744 --> 03:06:59,994 makes our workforce training a 5868 03:07:01,711 --> 03:07:01,961 little unique as we use what is 5869 03:07:03,511 --> 03:07:03,761 called an IET which is an 5870 03:07:04,244 --> 03:07:04,494 integrated education training 5871 03:07:07,811 --> 03:07:08,061 model so the about 99% of the 5872 03:07:09,511 --> 03:07:09,761 students that come to us are 5873 03:07:11,744 --> 03:07:11,994 individuals who cannot wait 2 5874 03:07:13,744 --> 03:07:13,994 years,4 years for a degree. 5875 03:07:15,477 --> 03:07:15,727 These are individuals that are 5876 03:07:17,511 --> 03:07:17,761 providing for their family 5877 03:07:18,244 --> 03:07:18,494 economic stress is alive and 5878 03:07:20,277 --> 03:07:20,527 well and so they come to us for 5879 03:07:22,077 --> 03:07:22,327 these short term training so 5880 03:07:22,644 --> 03:07:22,894 that they get into 5881 03:07:25,511 --> 03:07:25,761 employment as quickly as 5882 03:07:27,744 --> 03:07:27,994 possible we have programs 5883 03:07:29,977 --> 03:07:30,227 that last as long as4 weeks all 5884 03:07:31,744 --> 03:07:31,994 the way up to16 weeks but 5885 03:07:32,311 --> 03:07:32,561 nothing longer than that16 5886 03:07:32,877 --> 03:07:33,127 weeks. 5887 03:07:35,977 --> 03:07:36,227 so again those individuals 5888 03:07:37,711 --> 03:07:37,961 come to us just in the southern 5889 03:07:39,711 --> 03:07:39,961 Nevada region alone there's 5890 03:07:42,177 --> 03:07:42,427 about 230,000 individuals that 5891 03:07:43,777 --> 03:07:44,027 don't currently have a high 5892 03:07:44,377 --> 03:07:44,627 school diploma or an 5893 03:07:44,844 --> 03:07:45,094 equivalency. 5894 03:07:47,977 --> 03:07:48,227 and so this also allows the 5895 03:07:49,977 --> 03:07:50,227 population to simultaneously 5896 03:07:51,944 --> 03:07:52,194 work on their high school 5897 03:07:53,711 --> 03:07:53,961 equivalency while they're 5898 03:07:55,711 --> 03:07:55,961 becoming trained the IET model 5899 03:07:57,977 --> 03:07:58,227 contextualizes the academicn 5900 03:07:59,977 --> 03:08:00,227 components of what they need 5901 03:08:02,177 --> 03:08:02,427 with the workforce program so 5902 03:08:03,944 --> 03:08:04,194 rather than say hey go take math 5903 03:08:05,977 --> 03:08:06,227 97 and all of us were there were 5904 03:08:06,677 --> 03:08:06,927 like where am I ever going to 5905 03:08:09,511 --> 03:08:09,761 use this in life the integrated 5906 03:08:10,277 --> 03:08:10,527 education training model says 5907 03:08:11,744 --> 03:08:11,994 you're going to have applied 5908 03:08:13,777 --> 03:08:14,027 math specific to the workforce 5909 03:08:14,477 --> 03:08:14,727 training that you're engaged in 5910 03:08:15,144 --> 03:08:15,394 so if you're 5911 03:08:17,477 --> 03:08:17,727 in a health scienceence program 5912 03:08:19,511 --> 03:08:19,761 the mathematic academics that 5913 03:08:21,477 --> 03:08:21,727 you're absorbing is directly in 5914 03:08:22,244 --> 03:08:22,494 line to that profession if 5915 03:08:23,744 --> 03:08:23,994 you're in advanced manufacturing 5916 03:08:25,744 --> 03:08:25,994 the mathematics is directly in 5917 03:08:27,511 --> 03:08:27,761 line to that so you see 5918 03:08:29,477 --> 03:08:29,727 instantly as a student oh this 5919 03:08:31,511 --> 03:08:31,761 is why I need to learn it and 5920 03:08:32,311 --> 03:08:32,561 it's directly connected to their 5921 03:08:32,977 --> 03:08:33,227 own future orientation. 5922 03:08:36,177 --> 03:08:36,427 we have the pathways which 5923 03:08:37,977 --> 03:08:38,227 are very diverse from rapid 5924 03:08:39,511 --> 03:08:39,761 response I just talked about 5925 03:08:41,711 --> 03:08:41,961 noncredit we also haveredit 5926 03:08:43,977 --> 03:08:44,227 aligneducational paths what I 5927 03:08:45,477 --> 03:08:45,727 will share is that those 5928 03:08:47,977 --> 03:08:48,227 students that come to us become 5929 03:08:48,711 --> 03:08:48,961 employed get their training 5930 03:08:49,977 --> 03:08:50,227 their industry recognized 5931 03:08:52,211 --> 03:08:52,461 credential get employment the 5932 03:08:54,244 --> 03:08:54,494 average matriculation rate 5933 03:08:55,977 --> 03:08:56,227 across the United States is 5934 03:08:58,211 --> 03:08:58,461 about18 to 22% of those 5935 03:09:00,477 --> 03:09:00,727 individuals go on to a degree at 5936 03:09:01,744 --> 03:09:01,994 the college of southern Nevada 5937 03:09:03,677 --> 03:09:03,927 we're at30%. That means30% of 5938 03:09:04,344 --> 03:09:04,594 those students 5939 03:09:05,977 --> 03:09:06,227 who didn't even think high 5940 03:09:07,511 --> 03:09:07,761 school was for them are now 5941 03:09:09,511 --> 03:09:09,761 going into a degree pathway 5942 03:09:10,077 --> 03:09:10,327 because they've had a positive 5943 03:09:10,744 --> 03:09:10,994 experience 5944 03:09:13,744 --> 03:09:13,994 a financial strategy when I 5945 03:09:15,477 --> 03:09:15,727 talk about braided funding this 5946 03:09:16,177 --> 03:09:16,427 is something you've heard from 5947 03:09:17,844 --> 03:09:18,094 meilt and Irene and doctorctor 5948 03:09:19,744 --> 03:09:19,994 Viallobos and Brett what we are 5949 03:09:21,511 --> 03:09:21,761 able to do is over at our 5950 03:09:22,211 --> 03:09:22,461 centers that I talked about we 5951 03:09:25,511 --> 03:09:25,761 do haveitle one representation 5952 03:09:27,744 --> 03:09:27,994 that sits within the facilities 5953 03:09:28,444 --> 03:09:28,694 at the College of southern 5954 03:09:29,977 --> 03:09:30,227 Nevada we have TitleI 5955 03:09:31,944 --> 03:09:32,194 Wagnereiser through Deeter that 5956 03:09:33,744 --> 03:09:33,994 has an individual and then of 5957 03:09:34,344 --> 03:09:34,594 course colleges in 5958 03:09:35,744 --> 03:09:35,994 southernnevada has her own 5959 03:09:37,744 --> 03:09:37,994 philanthropic and or grant 5960 03:09:40,144 --> 03:09:40,394 funding as well so when we 5961 03:09:40,744 --> 03:09:40,994 receive a grant we usually have 5962 03:09:43,477 --> 03:09:43,727 a target to meet hey you have to 5963 03:09:45,744 --> 03:09:45,994 hit60 students 9 times out of10 5964 03:09:47,711 --> 03:09:47,961 we'll go 20 to30% above that 5965 03:09:50,211 --> 03:09:50,461 because we cofund those students 5966 03:09:53,477 --> 03:09:53,727 with Title1 TitleI and other 5967 03:09:54,211 --> 03:09:54,461 philanthropic dollars. So by 5968 03:09:56,377 --> 03:09:56,627 braiding it allows us to extend 5969 03:09:57,077 --> 03:09:57,327 those dollars but remember 5970 03:10:00,177 --> 03:10:00,427 just like workforce connections 5971 03:10:02,011 --> 03:10:02,261 andil said hey you have there 5972 03:10:03,777 --> 03:10:04,027 are millions of dollars serves 5973 03:10:04,444 --> 03:10:04,694 up to1,500 people collectively 5974 03:10:08,444 --> 03:10:08,694 231,000 individuals but out a 5975 03:10:09,977 --> 03:10:10,227 high school diploma our funding 5976 03:10:12,411 --> 03:10:12,661 allows us to serve 1000 of those 5977 03:10:13,077 --> 03:10:13,327 per an annual basis. 5978 03:10:16,177 --> 03:10:16,427 when we talk about the 5979 03:10:18,411 --> 03:10:18,661 AB354 very similar to what Milt 5980 03:10:21,511 --> 03:10:21,761 said that is our delivery 5981 03:10:23,711 --> 03:10:23,961 strategy we're in the places 5982 03:10:25,744 --> 03:10:25,994 that where we have the census 5983 03:10:27,511 --> 03:10:27,761 track that say this is where the 5984 03:10:28,177 --> 03:10:28,427 highest poverty exists. this is 5985 03:10:29,977 --> 03:10:30,227 where the highest unemployment 5986 03:10:31,744 --> 03:10:31,994 exists we work very closely with 5987 03:10:33,511 --> 03:10:33,761 the city where we do targeted 5988 03:10:35,511 --> 03:10:35,761 outreach and targeted 5989 03:10:37,477 --> 03:10:37,727 recruitment. so in conjunction 5990 03:10:38,244 --> 03:10:38,494 with the city of Las Vegas they 5991 03:10:40,211 --> 03:10:40,461 have an internal messaging 5992 03:10:41,977 --> 03:10:42,227 system where based on their 5993 03:10:43,677 --> 03:10:43,927 wards they have a direct 5994 03:10:44,244 --> 03:10:44,494 audience of 5995 03:10:46,211 --> 03:10:46,461 individuals whether it's wardd 1 5996 03:10:48,177 --> 03:10:48,427 andwardd5 where we currently 5997 03:10:49,944 --> 03:10:50,194 reside for our first two 5998 03:10:52,144 --> 03:10:52,394 training centers goes out thus 5999 03:10:54,011 --> 03:10:54,261 targeting surveying what are you 6000 03:10:54,677 --> 03:10:54,927 interested in 6001 03:10:57,711 --> 03:10:57,961 they get a response we then 6002 03:10:59,744 --> 03:10:59,994 develop the training and with 6003 03:11:01,477 --> 03:11:01,727 the employer based on that. 6004 03:11:03,477 --> 03:11:03,727 First example is we have a 6005 03:11:06,477 --> 03:11:06,727 cohort of about 24 young folks 6006 03:11:07,944 --> 03:11:08,194 going through an EMT program. 6007 03:11:12,144 --> 03:11:12,394 City of Las Vegas deployed this 6008 03:11:15,944 --> 03:11:16,194 mechanism identified within 6009 03:11:19,511 --> 03:11:19,761 wardd5 and particularly89106 6010 03:11:21,477 --> 03:11:21,727 area code where this high 6011 03:11:23,944 --> 03:11:24,194 poverty lowe employment exists 6012 03:11:27,511 --> 03:11:27,761 got 240 responses Out of that we 6013 03:11:28,177 --> 03:11:28,427 were able to fill the course at 6014 03:11:31,777 --> 03:11:32,027 capacity with 24 students who 6015 03:11:34,177 --> 03:11:34,427 are now paid by through Title I 6016 03:11:34,844 --> 03:11:35,094 TitleI CSN 6017 03:11:38,511 --> 03:11:38,761 and taking class in December 6018 03:11:40,244 --> 03:11:40,494 they will graduate we're talking 6019 03:11:42,244 --> 03:11:42,494 to the chief of the city of Las 6020 03:11:44,011 --> 03:11:44,261 Vegas who's already guaranteed 6021 03:11:45,711 --> 03:11:45,961 as long as they pass and they do 6022 03:11:47,711 --> 03:11:47,961 well they'll be able to put on 6023 03:11:49,477 --> 03:11:49,727 the city of Las Vegas ENt 6024 03:11:52,011 --> 03:11:52,261 uniform come December January so 6025 03:11:53,511 --> 03:11:53,761 that I just wanted to share that 6026 03:11:54,277 --> 03:11:54,527 as one example of the 6027 03:11:56,244 --> 03:11:56,494 attentionality to make sure that 6028 03:11:57,977 --> 03:11:58,227 we're highly targeting the 6029 03:11:59,977 --> 03:12:00,227 community that we're in and that 6030 03:12:01,977 --> 03:12:02,227 we know these economic factors 6031 03:12:02,677 --> 03:12:02,927 have an impact on 6032 03:12:07,711 --> 03:12:07,961 for us everything is datad 6033 03:12:08,477 --> 03:12:08,727 driven if it doesn't if it 6034 03:12:09,977 --> 03:12:10,227 doesn't show up in the data and 6035 03:12:12,211 --> 03:12:12,461 it's somebody's opinion we don't 6036 03:12:14,211 --> 03:12:14,461 do it it doesn't its hasn't 6037 03:12:16,244 --> 03:12:16,494 yielded us the outcomes that 6038 03:12:17,977 --> 03:12:18,227 we're looking for they talk 6039 03:12:20,011 --> 03:12:20,261 about a humancented design 6040 03:12:21,777 --> 03:12:22,027 process that's exactly the 6041 03:12:23,544 --> 03:12:23,794 practice that we follow. we make 6042 03:12:24,311 --> 03:12:24,561 sure that those young adults 6043 03:12:26,044 --> 03:12:26,294 that are entering the workforce 6044 03:12:28,044 --> 03:12:28,294 because of the sources with 6045 03:12:30,244 --> 03:12:30,494 Title1itleI and CSN it's a 6046 03:12:32,244 --> 03:12:32,494 holistic approach we're not just 6047 03:12:33,744 --> 03:12:33,994 looking hey we're just here to 6048 03:12:34,377 --> 03:12:34,627 train you and if you get it 6049 03:12:34,977 --> 03:12:35,227 great 6050 03:12:37,744 --> 03:12:37,994 no it's also about that 6051 03:12:39,544 --> 03:12:39,794 contextualized component that I 6052 03:12:40,277 --> 03:12:40,527 spoke about the number one thing 6053 03:12:42,211 --> 03:12:42,461 that we hear from employers 6054 03:12:44,611 --> 03:12:44,861 that's missing soft skills selff 6055 03:12:45,277 --> 03:12:45,527 leadership 6056 03:12:48,511 --> 03:12:48,761 being able to have communication 6057 03:12:51,511 --> 03:12:51,761 skills being on time so we 6058 03:12:52,111 --> 03:12:52,361 incorporate all those and 6059 03:12:53,977 --> 03:12:54,227 integrate those or contextualize 6060 03:12:56,011 --> 03:12:56,261 those into all our training 6061 03:12:57,977 --> 03:12:58,227 programs when we talk about the 6062 03:12:59,844 --> 03:13:00,094 different interventions AFla 6063 03:13:03,511 --> 03:13:03,761 which are a which I referenced 6064 03:13:05,944 --> 03:13:06,194 earlier Rhodes is also a was a 6065 03:13:07,944 --> 03:13:08,194 pilot that was funded through 6066 03:13:09,711 --> 03:13:09,961 Dieter. it was about half a 6067 03:13:11,711 --> 03:13:11,961 million dollars to serve about70 6068 03:13:13,977 --> 03:13:14,227 students in this exactly 6069 03:13:15,944 --> 03:13:16,194 workforce ecosystem. we end up 6070 03:13:17,977 --> 03:13:18,227 serving over100 because of that 6071 03:13:19,944 --> 03:13:20,194 braided funding approach 6072 03:13:21,977 --> 03:13:22,227 average of 90% training 6073 03:13:25,477 --> 03:13:25,727 completion average of about80% 6074 03:13:27,944 --> 03:13:28,194 employment. so again one of the 6075 03:13:29,811 --> 03:13:30,061 things that you'll see a theme 6076 03:13:30,477 --> 03:13:30,727 here is if we don't meet those 6077 03:13:31,644 --> 03:13:31,894 numbers we lose our funding 6078 03:13:35,777 --> 03:13:36,027 it's it's not a model that just 6079 03:13:37,744 --> 03:13:37,994 says here's money go train if 6080 03:13:39,477 --> 03:13:39,727 we're not meeting those numbers 6081 03:13:40,211 --> 03:13:40,461 the board will come back to us 6082 03:13:42,011 --> 03:13:42,261 based on what is on the eligible 6083 03:13:43,977 --> 03:13:44,227 training provider list says hey 6084 03:13:45,477 --> 03:13:45,727 you're not meeting that 6085 03:13:47,477 --> 03:13:47,727 threshold. some of you may be 6086 03:13:49,511 --> 03:13:49,761 familiar with shorter ell first 6087 03:13:50,277 --> 03:13:50,527 time that'll be an additional 6088 03:13:51,777 --> 03:13:52,027 funding stream but it'll just be 6089 03:13:53,977 --> 03:13:54,227 a last dollar type of component 6090 03:13:56,011 --> 03:13:56,261 but same thing these metrics are 6091 03:13:56,744 --> 03:13:56,994 across all workforce training 6092 03:14:01,477 --> 03:14:01,727 minimum their request is70% 6093 03:14:03,977 --> 03:14:04,227 completion70% placement we're 6094 03:14:04,611 --> 03:14:04,861 already exceeding that here in 6095 03:14:05,277 --> 03:14:05,527 southern Nevada. 6096 03:14:09,977 --> 03:14:10,227 this had a significant impact 6097 03:14:11,477 --> 03:14:11,727 some of the images you're 6098 03:14:13,477 --> 03:14:13,727 looking at now are from the 6099 03:14:14,177 --> 03:14:14,427 westsideducation Training Center 6100 03:14:16,244 --> 03:14:16,494 we all of our trainings are in 6101 03:14:18,244 --> 03:14:18,494 line with what we see as the 6102 03:14:21,477 --> 03:14:21,727 indeman occupations so this is 6103 03:14:23,511 --> 03:14:23,761 from the LvGEA theorkforce 6104 03:14:25,744 --> 03:14:25,994 nections the chamberlueprint we 6105 03:14:26,477 --> 03:14:26,727 also do work with David Schmidt 6106 03:14:28,011 --> 03:14:28,261 from Deeter who provides us 6107 03:14:30,011 --> 03:14:30,261 labor market information as well 6108 03:14:33,477 --> 03:14:33,727 on a continual basis one of 6109 03:14:34,244 --> 03:14:34,494 the things we do is there was a 6110 03:14:36,577 --> 03:14:36,827 lot of hey CNC is coming down 6111 03:14:37,244 --> 03:14:37,494 the pipeline we started 6112 03:14:39,977 --> 03:14:40,227 a CNC program we were 6113 03:14:41,977 --> 03:14:42,227 overproducing talent we stopped 6114 03:14:43,977 --> 03:14:44,227 the program. if the program does 6115 03:14:46,011 --> 03:14:46,261 not lead to unemployment that's 6116 03:14:47,511 --> 03:14:47,761 not how you treat people. you 6117 03:14:48,277 --> 03:14:48,527 don't put them in a training for 6118 03:14:50,244 --> 03:14:50,494 eight weeks they develop a skill 6119 03:14:51,677 --> 03:14:51,927 and now the employer is not 6120 03:14:52,244 --> 03:14:52,494 there. 6121 03:14:55,511 --> 03:14:55,761 now if that comes back in demand 6122 03:14:57,511 --> 03:14:57,761 we'll reimplement it and move 6123 03:15:00,244 --> 03:15:00,494 forward and so our areas our 6124 03:15:02,011 --> 03:15:02,261 health sciences advanced 6125 03:15:03,711 --> 03:15:03,961 manufacturing computer 6126 03:15:05,477 --> 03:15:05,727 information technology and the 6127 03:15:07,511 --> 03:15:07,761 skill trades CSN does serve as a 6128 03:15:09,511 --> 03:15:09,761 school of record for16 building 6129 03:15:11,511 --> 03:15:11,761 trades we have a very close 6130 03:15:12,244 --> 03:15:12,494 relationship with the southern 6131 03:15:14,277 --> 03:15:14,527 Nevada building trades. what 6132 03:15:15,944 --> 03:15:16,194 that means that serving as a 6133 03:15:17,777 --> 03:15:18,027 school of record when people say 6134 03:15:19,744 --> 03:15:19,994 hey don't go to consider the 6135 03:15:21,644 --> 03:15:21,894 trades instead of college here 6136 03:15:22,311 --> 03:15:22,561 the 6137 03:15:24,244 --> 03:15:24,494 trades is college. they are 6138 03:15:25,544 --> 03:15:25,794 earning credit through their 6139 03:15:27,511 --> 03:15:27,761 apprenticeship program. they're 6140 03:15:29,477 --> 03:15:29,727 literally6 credits away after 6141 03:15:31,477 --> 03:15:31,727 they complete their journeymen 6142 03:15:33,711 --> 03:15:33,961 or their apprenticeship program 6143 03:15:35,711 --> 03:15:35,961 these individuals are6 credits 6144 03:15:36,444 --> 03:15:36,694 away from getting their 6145 03:15:39,777 --> 03:15:40,027 associates in apprenticeship 6146 03:15:42,244 --> 03:15:42,494 studies and so it's it's making 6147 03:15:45,511 --> 03:15:45,761 sure that individuals go on and 6148 03:15:47,777 --> 03:15:48,027 you'll see some of the trade 6149 03:15:50,011 --> 03:15:50,261 leaders who are retired use that 6150 03:15:51,644 --> 03:15:51,894 and now have a four year degree 6151 03:15:52,311 --> 03:15:52,561 and have a whole another 6152 03:15:54,611 --> 03:15:54,861 life because of utilizing 6153 03:15:55,144 --> 03:15:55,394 that strategy. 6154 03:15:57,944 --> 03:15:58,194 I've already talked a little bit 6155 03:15:59,944 --> 03:16:00,194 about roads one of the things 6156 03:16:01,477 --> 03:16:01,727 we're most excited about is our 6157 03:16:02,444 --> 03:16:02,694 resilience for Nevada this is 6158 03:16:04,211 --> 03:16:04,461 also a workforce grant it is the 6159 03:16:06,211 --> 03:16:06,461 only workforce grant specific in 6160 03:16:08,211 --> 03:16:08,461 Nevada through the department of 6161 03:16:11,711 --> 03:16:11,961 healthalth and Humanervices for 6162 03:16:14,144 --> 03:16:14,394 individuals who have passed or 6163 03:16:14,811 --> 03:16:15,061 in were in recovery 6164 03:16:17,744 --> 03:16:17,994 and so as you know there are 6165 03:16:19,977 --> 03:16:20,227 some if based on your background 6166 03:16:22,244 --> 03:16:22,494 related to recovery you may not 6167 03:16:23,977 --> 03:16:24,227 be able to be eligible for 6168 03:16:25,511 --> 03:16:25,761 employment so we work very 6169 03:16:26,111 --> 03:16:26,361 closely with the local 6170 03:16:27,944 --> 03:16:28,194 municipalities if we can work 6171 03:16:29,477 --> 03:16:29,727 with those judges 6172 03:16:32,211 --> 03:16:32,461 to se or modify the record so 6173 03:16:34,211 --> 03:16:34,461 they can get employment we have 6174 03:16:36,011 --> 03:16:36,261 case managers that work with the 6175 03:16:38,011 --> 03:16:38,261 judicial the judicial system to 6176 03:16:38,677 --> 03:16:38,927 be able to do that 6177 03:16:41,744 --> 03:16:41,994 we also work very closely what 6178 03:16:43,477 --> 03:16:43,727 we call as recovery friendly 6179 03:16:44,211 --> 03:16:44,461 employers so they're straight 6180 03:16:47,711 --> 03:16:47,961 out hey yes we hire individuals 6181 03:16:49,777 --> 03:16:50,027 who've had this experience this 6182 03:16:51,777 --> 03:16:52,027 lived experience in the past and 6183 03:16:53,511 --> 03:16:53,761 so what we see a lot of those in 6184 03:16:54,244 --> 03:16:54,494 our peer support specialists 6185 03:16:56,277 --> 03:16:56,527 advanced manufacturing and some 6186 03:16:58,277 --> 03:16:58,527 community healthcare workers we 6187 03:17:00,211 --> 03:17:00,461 just finished our first year. we 6188 03:17:02,244 --> 03:17:02,494 were supposed to serve65. we 6189 03:17:04,211 --> 03:17:04,461 actually serve 95 but again 6190 03:17:07,777 --> 03:17:08,027 average8085% employment rate. 6191 03:17:08,377 --> 03:17:08,627 This also is 6192 03:17:11,944 --> 03:17:12,194 now causing us to look at CSN as 6193 03:17:15,477 --> 03:17:15,727 are we also a recovery friendly 6194 03:17:17,477 --> 03:17:17,727 entity because a lot of these 6195 03:17:18,211 --> 03:17:18,461 roles that were building and 6196 03:17:19,511 --> 03:17:19,761 working with the 6197 03:17:21,711 --> 03:17:21,961 recoveryfriendly recovery 6198 03:17:23,744 --> 03:17:23,994 community requires lived 6199 03:17:25,744 --> 03:17:25,994 experience and so we're 6200 03:17:26,211 --> 03:17:26,461 beginning to navigate what that 6201 03:17:27,811 --> 03:17:28,061 looks like in terms of that 6202 03:17:28,377 --> 03:17:28,627 infrastructure. 6203 03:17:32,411 --> 03:17:32,661 shared intake again I talked 6204 03:17:33,944 --> 03:17:34,194 about the the integration with 6205 03:17:36,177 --> 03:17:36,427 Title1 TitleI what does that 6206 03:17:37,944 --> 03:17:38,194 look like in terms of a 6207 03:17:41,477 --> 03:17:41,727 streamlined experience also 6208 03:17:43,477 --> 03:17:43,727 making sure that what we 6209 03:17:44,177 --> 03:17:44,427 recognize with these grants that 6210 03:17:45,977 --> 03:17:46,227 have been provided directly 6211 03:17:47,977 --> 03:17:48,227 tocSN it eliminates the 6212 03:17:49,944 --> 03:17:50,194 redundant processes we've talked 6213 03:17:52,211 --> 03:17:52,461 about Senator Deonte you 6214 03:17:54,211 --> 03:17:54,461 talked about efficiencies 6215 03:17:56,244 --> 03:17:56,494 these this type of opportunity 6216 03:17:57,977 --> 03:17:58,227 does eliminate redundant 6217 03:17:58,577 --> 03:17:58,827 processes significantly 6218 03:18:01,711 --> 03:18:01,961 ac ce le rate s the time that we 6219 03:18:03,477 --> 03:18:03,727 can see a student if a student 6220 03:18:05,711 --> 03:18:05,961 says hey I'm unemployed I need 6221 03:18:07,944 --> 03:18:08,194 to go to work like now and get 6222 03:18:11,477 --> 03:18:11,727 them trained it allows us to be 6223 03:18:12,144 --> 03:18:12,394 able to support them that much 6224 03:18:14,411 --> 03:18:14,661 quicker and again it's a 6225 03:18:16,011 --> 03:18:16,261 complete wraparound service to 6226 03:18:18,011 --> 03:18:18,261 make sure that these students 6227 03:18:19,977 --> 03:18:20,227 are successful again with our 13 6228 03:18:21,744 --> 03:18:21,994 sites across the different areas 6229 03:18:23,977 --> 03:18:24,227 also allows us to be where 6230 03:18:26,211 --> 03:18:26,461 everybody is again this is 6231 03:18:28,011 --> 03:18:28,261 the grand opening when about67 6232 03:18:28,677 --> 03:18:28,927 months ago at our westside 6233 03:18:29,244 --> 03:18:29,494 education 6234 03:18:31,944 --> 03:18:32,194 training center there's another 6235 03:18:33,711 --> 03:18:33,961 one being built called the Etsy 6236 03:18:35,944 --> 03:18:36,194 which is you guessed it the east 6237 03:18:38,177 --> 03:18:38,427 sideducation training center and 6238 03:18:40,211 --> 03:18:40,461 then a couple years down the 6239 03:18:42,177 --> 03:18:42,427 road and these are all in 6240 03:18:43,711 --> 03:18:43,961 partnership with the city of Las 6241 03:18:45,777 --> 03:18:46,027 Vegas we'll have a metzi which 6242 03:18:47,511 --> 03:18:47,761 is a medical education and 6243 03:18:48,244 --> 03:18:48,494 training center so the beautiful 6244 03:18:49,977 --> 03:18:50,227 thing about these is we're 6245 03:18:51,477 --> 03:18:51,727 building brick and mortar and 6246 03:18:53,477 --> 03:18:53,727 infrastructure and what that 6247 03:18:55,477 --> 03:18:55,727 does is allow us to expand the 6248 03:18:56,444 --> 03:18:56,694 services that that you've heard 6249 03:18:58,011 --> 03:18:58,261 here between all three 6250 03:18:58,511 --> 03:18:58,761 presentations this morning so 6251 03:18:59,177 --> 03:18:59,427 the 6252 03:19:01,711 --> 03:19:01,961 model that we're talking about 6253 03:19:03,711 --> 03:19:03,961 will exist at the Etsy will also 6254 03:19:05,711 --> 03:19:05,961 exists at the medical education 6255 03:19:07,711 --> 03:19:07,961 training center again the 6256 03:19:08,277 --> 03:19:08,527 biggest thing is what we're 6257 03:19:10,211 --> 03:19:10,461 realizing is collectively we 6258 03:19:13,477 --> 03:19:13,727 need to look at more dollars. 6259 03:19:14,444 --> 03:19:14,694 it's very easy if we were to 6260 03:19:16,244 --> 03:19:16,494 step on the gas we can run 6261 03:19:17,977 --> 03:19:18,227 through our money probably6 6262 03:19:19,944 --> 03:19:20,194 months through the the annual 6263 03:19:21,777 --> 03:19:22,027 money that is provided and 6264 03:19:23,477 --> 03:19:23,727 that's why we started braiding 6265 03:19:25,477 --> 03:19:25,727 these funds so that not only can 6266 03:19:26,211 --> 03:19:26,461 we serve more but we can also 6267 03:19:28,011 --> 03:19:28,261 stretch the dollars. all of us 6268 03:19:28,711 --> 03:19:28,961 have been in place where we 6269 03:19:29,277 --> 03:19:29,527 braided funds 6270 03:19:32,444 --> 03:19:32,694 some call it other things but 6271 03:19:33,977 --> 03:19:34,227 exactly to extend resources and 6272 03:19:35,977 --> 03:19:36,227 make sure we can continue to 6273 03:19:38,177 --> 03:19:38,427 deliver those high services. I 6274 03:19:39,711 --> 03:19:39,961 talked already a little about 6275 03:19:41,477 --> 03:19:41,727 afflow what that does what 6276 03:19:43,477 --> 03:19:43,727 that's provides in a perfect 6277 03:19:45,511 --> 03:19:45,761 world somebody comes works on 6278 03:19:47,744 --> 03:19:47,994 there high school equivalency is 6279 03:19:48,411 --> 03:19:48,661 enrolled in the short term 6280 03:19:51,744 --> 03:19:51,994 training becomes employed CSN is 6281 03:19:53,744 --> 03:19:53,994 also the only college in Nevada 6282 03:19:55,711 --> 03:19:55,961 where you have dual enrollment 6283 03:19:58,011 --> 03:19:58,261 for adults it's a federal 6284 03:19:58,611 --> 03:19:58,861 program called bility to 6285 03:19:59,144 --> 03:19:59,394 benefitnefit 6286 03:20:02,211 --> 03:20:02,461 we have great philanthropic 6287 03:20:03,977 --> 03:20:04,227 partners like Bank of America 6288 03:20:06,211 --> 03:20:06,461 and MGM who covers the first six 6289 03:20:09,477 --> 03:20:09,727 credits of these adult learners 6290 03:20:10,177 --> 03:20:10,427 they then become eligible for 6291 03:20:13,677 --> 03:20:13,927 Ffafa so just like there's dual 6292 03:20:14,411 --> 03:20:14,661 enrollment for high school 6293 03:20:17,511 --> 03:20:17,761 students this allows us to also 6294 03:20:18,311 --> 03:20:18,561 have dual enrollment for adult 6295 03:20:19,011 --> 03:20:19,261 learners. 6296 03:20:22,244 --> 03:20:22,494 Washington state has had this 6297 03:20:23,777 --> 03:20:24,027 program in place probably the 6298 03:20:25,777 --> 03:20:26,027 longest which means about10 6299 03:20:28,011 --> 03:20:28,261 years what they have found is 6300 03:20:29,744 --> 03:20:29,994 individuals secure their two 6301 03:20:31,477 --> 03:20:31,727 year degree before they actually 6302 03:20:32,211 --> 03:20:32,461 secure their high school 6303 03:20:34,011 --> 03:20:34,261 equivalency. I don't know about 6304 03:20:36,011 --> 03:20:36,261 you, I'm a horrible test taker 6305 03:20:37,977 --> 03:20:38,227 in order you're pass your GED 6306 03:20:38,644 --> 03:20:38,894 you have to take a test 6307 03:20:41,744 --> 03:20:41,994 if you're not a great test 6308 03:20:44,011 --> 03:20:44,261 taker, a lot of people give up 6309 03:20:47,477 --> 03:20:47,727 never get their GED but if 6310 03:20:48,011 --> 03:20:48,261 you're enrolled in a two year 6311 03:20:48,644 --> 03:20:48,894 degree 6312 03:20:51,744 --> 03:20:51,994 which is not your your destiny 6313 03:20:54,011 --> 03:20:54,261 is not based on one test but a 6314 03:20:55,711 --> 03:20:55,961 series of courses for you to 6315 03:20:57,744 --> 03:20:57,994 develop your knowledge base we 6316 03:20:59,744 --> 03:20:59,994 see a higher population so now 6317 03:21:00,344 --> 03:21:00,594 they don't even have to look 6318 03:21:01,977 --> 03:21:02,227 back at their high school 6319 03:21:03,777 --> 03:21:04,027 equivalency because they have 6320 03:21:05,511 --> 03:21:05,761 their two year degree they have 6321 03:21:06,244 --> 03:21:06,494 workforce training and they go 6322 03:21:07,644 --> 03:21:07,894 on and have a successful life. 6323 03:21:11,711 --> 03:21:11,961 lastst thing I'll share is about 6324 03:21:13,711 --> 03:21:13,961 our business development we also 6325 03:21:15,477 --> 03:21:15,727 do provide you've heard the term 6326 03:21:17,477 --> 03:21:17,727 incumbent workers we work very 6327 03:21:18,177 --> 03:21:18,427 closely with Dieter and 6328 03:21:19,944 --> 03:21:20,194 Workforce connectction on their 6329 03:21:21,711 --> 03:21:21,961 industry sector partnership 6330 03:21:24,044 --> 03:21:24,294 dollars as well as their 6331 03:21:27,477 --> 03:21:27,727 upscaling training dollars so 6332 03:21:29,511 --> 03:21:29,761 what we do is work with local 6333 03:21:31,477 --> 03:21:31,727 employers they identify what are 6334 03:21:32,211 --> 03:21:32,461 the talent gaps in their 6335 03:21:34,444 --> 03:21:34,694 businesses to keep team members 6336 03:21:36,177 --> 03:21:36,427 to stay competitive and also to 6337 03:21:38,211 --> 03:21:38,461 be relative in the workforce our 6338 03:21:39,644 --> 03:21:39,894 workforce trainings have about 6339 03:21:44,277 --> 03:21:44,527 a 15 fifteen% variance every 16 6340 03:21:44,944 --> 03:21:45,194 weeks 6341 03:21:47,944 --> 03:21:48,194 that's how quick business and 6342 03:21:50,177 --> 03:21:50,427 industry moves so we make 6343 03:21:51,944 --> 03:21:52,194 sure that whatever that student 6344 03:21:53,777 --> 03:21:54,027 is from class to class they're 6345 03:21:55,744 --> 03:21:55,994 experiencing the most updated 6346 03:21:57,944 --> 03:21:58,194 techniques strategies because we 6347 03:21:58,677 --> 03:21:58,927 want them to be the most 6348 03:22:01,477 --> 03:22:01,727 competitive individuals as they 6349 03:22:03,711 --> 03:22:03,961 go into the workforce and so 6350 03:22:04,311 --> 03:22:04,561 that's where the customized 6351 03:22:06,177 --> 03:22:06,427 training comes in if you go 6352 03:22:08,211 --> 03:22:08,461 and you ask for a suit and you 6353 03:22:10,211 --> 03:22:10,461 tell us as the employer you want 6354 03:22:11,944 --> 03:22:12,194 one sleeve longer than the other 6355 03:22:13,477 --> 03:22:13,727 that's what you're gonna get. 6356 03:22:14,211 --> 03:22:14,461 we're not gonna argue with you 6357 03:22:14,844 --> 03:22:15,094 you're the employer you know how 6358 03:22:16,677 --> 03:22:16,927 to run your business 6359 03:22:17,677 --> 03:22:17,927 excuse me 6360 03:22:20,144 --> 03:22:20,394 and so that is also a way that 6361 03:22:22,177 --> 03:22:22,427 we contribute to workforce 6362 03:22:25,477 --> 03:22:25,727 and economic development and 6363 03:22:26,377 --> 03:22:26,627 businesses industry competitive 6364 03:22:28,111 --> 03:22:28,361 competitiveness and 6365 03:22:28,544 --> 03:22:28,794 sustainability. 6366 03:22:32,211 --> 03:22:32,461 lastly and I think I said 6367 03:22:33,977 --> 03:22:34,227 that last time 6368 03:22:38,611 --> 03:22:38,861 So past tense 6369 03:22:41,977 --> 03:22:42,227 henderson chamber we were very 6370 03:22:43,544 --> 03:22:43,794 closely with Scott in the 6371 03:22:45,477 --> 03:22:45,727 henderson chamber. he has a 6372 03:22:47,477 --> 03:22:47,727 consortium of manufacturers we 6373 03:22:48,144 --> 03:22:48,394 actually have about6 or7 6374 03:22:50,077 --> 03:22:50,327 manufacturers that we currently 6375 03:22:51,744 --> 03:22:51,994 work with not only for entry 6376 03:22:53,511 --> 03:22:53,761 level but also for this 6377 03:22:55,744 --> 03:22:55,994 upscaling component we meet on a 6378 03:22:57,744 --> 03:22:57,994 monthly basis this group of 6379 03:22:59,711 --> 03:22:59,961 manufacturers tells us to our 6380 03:23:01,744 --> 03:23:01,994 face this is the training we 6381 03:23:02,311 --> 03:23:02,561 want. Here's the job 6382 03:23:03,977 --> 03:23:04,227 descriptions here's the contact 6383 03:23:05,944 --> 03:23:06,194 with the HR so when your 6384 03:23:07,977 --> 03:23:08,227 students graduate I'm giving you 6385 03:23:08,644 --> 03:23:08,894 the name of that HR rep so 6386 03:23:09,211 --> 03:23:09,461 there's 6387 03:23:11,911 --> 03:23:12,161 that warm handoff in that direct 6388 03:23:13,911 --> 03:23:14,161 connection it's those type of 6389 03:23:16,111 --> 03:23:16,361 intentional strategies like 6390 03:23:17,911 --> 03:23:18,161 Miss Irene was talking about 6391 03:23:18,544 --> 03:23:18,794 that leads to that success. 6392 03:23:23,677 --> 03:23:23,927 noncredit health sciences again 6393 03:23:26,111 --> 03:23:26,361 is our quick our our fastest 6394 03:23:26,777 --> 03:23:27,027 growing sector here in southern 6395 03:23:27,444 --> 03:23:27,694 Nevada. 6396 03:23:31,944 --> 03:23:32,194 and so a lot of our short 6397 03:23:33,711 --> 03:23:33,961 term trainings our entry level 6398 03:23:35,711 --> 03:23:35,961 positions we don't fund a 6399 03:23:36,311 --> 03:23:36,561 training that is not going to 6400 03:23:37,677 --> 03:23:37,927 yield a minimum of $20 an hour. 6401 03:23:41,677 --> 03:23:41,927 we don't do12 dollars,15 6402 03:23:43,911 --> 03:23:44,161 dollarsdivis normally can do 6403 03:23:45,677 --> 03:23:45,927 that on their own. The trainings 6404 03:23:47,477 --> 03:23:47,727 that we have make sure that at a 6405 03:23:49,477 --> 03:23:49,727 minimum they're walking out of 6406 03:23:50,177 --> 03:23:50,427 the door and making a minimum 6407 03:23:51,944 --> 03:23:52,194 of40,000 dollars a year. that's 6408 03:23:55,477 --> 03:23:55,727 not a lot.1fteen years ago maybe 6409 03:23:57,477 --> 03:23:57,727 but still that's the threshold 6410 03:23:58,177 --> 03:23:58,427 that we want to make sure that's 6411 03:23:59,711 --> 03:23:59,961 part of the business industry to 6412 03:24:01,611 --> 03:24:01,861 say hey what is competitive 6413 03:24:02,177 --> 03:24:02,427 wages look like? 6414 03:24:09,744 --> 03:24:09,994 ai there's a a college wide we 6415 03:24:10,411 --> 03:24:10,661 have an Ai ambassador 6416 03:24:13,777 --> 03:24:14,027 that is informing and meeting 6417 03:24:16,311 --> 03:24:16,561 with what does artificial 6418 03:24:18,044 --> 03:24:18,294 intelligence look like within 6419 03:24:18,644 --> 03:24:18,894 the collegelege of southern 6420 03:24:21,477 --> 03:24:21,727 nevada and she has a task 6421 03:24:23,744 --> 03:24:23,994 forcece on AI where all the 6422 03:24:24,511 --> 03:24:24,761 institutions meet and talk about 6423 03:24:26,044 --> 03:24:26,294 what this component looks like 6424 03:24:28,311 --> 03:24:28,561 it is already embedded it's here 6425 03:24:30,277 --> 03:24:30,527 it's embedded in manufacturing 6426 03:24:32,011 --> 03:24:32,261 and it's embedded in healthcare 6427 03:24:34,011 --> 03:24:34,261 it's embedded in business 6428 03:24:36,544 --> 03:24:36,794 operations our responsibility is 6429 03:24:37,777 --> 03:24:38,027 to make sure that where it's 6430 03:24:39,811 --> 03:24:40,061 embedded these are incorporated 6431 03:24:40,444 --> 03:24:40,694 into our trainings so 6432 03:24:43,511 --> 03:24:43,761 that that that individual has 6433 03:24:44,277 --> 03:24:44,527 competencies awareness and 6434 03:24:47,477 --> 03:24:47,727 success based on what it is 6435 03:24:48,277 --> 03:24:48,527 those AI skills are that are 6436 03:24:51,477 --> 03:24:51,727 required so that they're also s 6437 03:24:54,244 --> 03:24:54,494 successful so for us AI is 6438 03:24:56,277 --> 03:24:56,527 another tool and another skill 6439 03:24:58,244 --> 03:24:58,494 that is incorporated in 6440 03:25:00,277 --> 03:25:00,527 contextualized because the job 6441 03:25:02,244 --> 03:25:02,494 requested and again the goal is 6442 03:25:04,344 --> 03:25:04,594 to make sure our students are 6443 03:25:05,011 --> 03:25:05,261 successful. 6444 03:25:09,477 --> 03:25:09,727 I talked about the digital 6445 03:25:10,444 --> 03:25:10,694 integration employerdriven 6446 03:25:12,244 --> 03:25:12,494 curriculum, short term training 6447 03:25:14,311 --> 03:25:14,561 wrap it up skilling and again 6448 03:25:19,477 --> 03:25:19,727 it for us the AI dialogue has 6449 03:25:20,444 --> 03:25:20,694 actually we've had an increase 6450 03:25:22,277 --> 03:25:22,527 of companies that have reached 6451 03:25:24,244 --> 03:25:24,494 out to us to say hey because 6452 03:25:26,344 --> 03:25:26,594 we've incorporated AI into our 6453 03:25:27,011 --> 03:25:27,261 business model 6454 03:25:29,777 --> 03:25:30,027 what does that look like from a 6455 03:25:31,744 --> 03:25:31,994 training perspective? Our SMmes 6456 03:25:33,744 --> 03:25:33,994 meet with their SMmes we take 6457 03:25:34,344 --> 03:25:34,594 directly from the job 6458 03:25:35,977 --> 03:25:36,227 description and the roles that 6459 03:25:37,511 --> 03:25:37,761 the business give us it's 6460 03:25:38,244 --> 03:25:38,494 incorporated and contextualized 6461 03:25:41,511 --> 03:25:41,761 as part of the training that 6462 03:25:42,111 --> 03:25:42,361 student comes out with that 6463 03:25:43,844 --> 03:25:44,094 skill that that employer has 6464 03:25:44,511 --> 03:25:44,761 asked for. 6465 03:25:47,744 --> 03:25:47,994 I talked about again this is 6466 03:25:49,477 --> 03:25:49,727 probably being a theme to 6467 03:25:51,477 --> 03:25:51,727 diversify it does it have to be 6468 03:25:52,544 --> 03:25:52,794 new funding? No could it be more 6469 03:25:54,277 --> 03:25:54,527 strategic funding like Irene 6470 03:25:56,011 --> 03:25:56,261 said absolutely and I think 6471 03:25:56,644 --> 03:25:56,894 those are worth having some 6472 03:25:57,244 --> 03:25:57,494 conversations 6473 03:25:58,411 --> 03:25:58,661 the pipeline 6474 03:26:04,277 --> 03:26:04,527 again 231,000 individuals we 6475 03:26:05,977 --> 03:26:06,227 get about 1000 of those that 6476 03:26:08,211 --> 03:26:08,461 come to us to a year we have 6477 03:26:09,977 --> 03:26:10,227 ongoing within the division of 6478 03:26:13,511 --> 03:26:13,761 workforce about7,000 students 6479 03:26:14,111 --> 03:26:14,361 who are someplace in their 6480 03:26:16,377 --> 03:26:16,627 trajectory of their learning and 6481 03:26:17,111 --> 03:26:17,361 then career experience. 6482 03:26:23,977 --> 03:26:24,227 Again going back to AB354 we are 6483 03:26:25,744 --> 03:26:25,994 intentionally in those areas 6484 03:26:28,211 --> 03:26:28,461 that AB354 narrates talks about 6485 03:26:30,444 --> 03:26:30,694 that should be reached we 6486 03:26:32,211 --> 03:26:32,461 have direct conversation with 6487 03:26:34,011 --> 03:26:34,261 those employers all the time 6488 03:26:35,977 --> 03:26:36,227 what are the things we preface 6489 03:26:37,977 --> 03:26:38,227 is to make sure that hey as 6490 03:26:39,977 --> 03:26:40,227 business and industry is growing 6491 03:26:41,977 --> 03:26:42,227 and is diversifying so should 6492 03:26:43,511 --> 03:26:43,761 the talent pipeline so that's 6493 03:26:44,277 --> 03:26:44,527 where the city of Las Vegas 6494 03:26:45,777 --> 03:26:46,027 comes in with their direct 6495 03:26:47,977 --> 03:26:48,227 targeting outreach being able to 6496 03:26:49,844 --> 03:26:50,094 pull individuals who've already 6497 03:26:50,511 --> 03:26:50,761 identified an interest 6498 03:26:53,511 --> 03:26:53,761 the employer's already lined up 6499 03:26:55,477 --> 03:26:55,727 we reverse engineer we don't do 6500 03:26:57,477 --> 03:26:57,727 a training and then go find an 6501 03:26:58,211 --> 03:26:58,461 employer I don't know if you 6502 03:26:59,944 --> 03:27:00,194 ever seen that movie Arthur 6503 03:27:01,511 --> 03:27:01,761 where he shoots and then says it 6504 03:27:03,511 --> 03:27:03,761 and he says pool and then shoots 6505 03:27:04,211 --> 03:27:04,461 and says hit the bullet hit the 6506 03:27:06,177 --> 03:27:06,427 bullet we don't do that we start 6507 03:27:07,877 --> 03:27:08,127 with the employer first and then 6508 03:27:11,511 --> 03:27:11,761 develop the training from 6509 03:27:12,211 --> 03:27:12,461 there I know I aged myself with 6510 03:27:13,744 --> 03:27:13,994 that movie I was just like are 6511 03:27:15,511 --> 03:27:15,761 we talking about the cartoon Ar 6512 03:27:17,511 --> 03:27:17,761 there like what it was the 6513 03:27:18,177 --> 03:27:18,427 eightys movie that's my bad 6514 03:27:23,511 --> 03:27:23,761 do you again our whole thing 6515 03:27:24,244 --> 03:27:24,494 is about equitable social 6516 03:27:27,477 --> 03:27:27,727 mobility individuals if you 6517 03:27:29,511 --> 03:27:29,761 qua if you make less than40,000 6518 03:27:31,711 --> 03:27:31,961 a year you're gonna qualify for 6519 03:27:33,511 --> 03:27:33,761 the training and support one of 6520 03:27:34,311 --> 03:27:34,561 the biggest successes that we've 6521 03:27:37,777 --> 03:27:38,027 had is when the employers embed 6522 03:27:39,777 --> 03:27:40,027 the training that CSM delivers 6523 03:27:43,744 --> 03:27:43,994 into the job description once a 6524 03:27:46,044 --> 03:27:46,294 in a job seeker sees that hey 6525 03:27:47,777 --> 03:27:48,027 it's not just I need a four year 6526 03:27:48,477 --> 03:27:48,727 degree but I can take the 16 6527 03:27:49,077 --> 03:27:49,327 week 6528 03:27:51,644 --> 03:27:51,894 CSN class and you're going to 6529 03:27:52,277 --> 03:27:52,527 hire me 6530 03:27:53,777 --> 03:27:54,027 we get people that are willing 6531 03:27:55,744 --> 03:27:55,994 to pay out of pocket and they 6532 03:27:57,477 --> 03:27:57,727 saved up however they got the 6533 03:27:59,777 --> 03:28:00,027 money that's not us to ask but 6534 03:28:01,511 --> 03:28:01,761 we do see a lot of out of pocket 6535 03:28:02,344 --> 03:28:02,594 pay when they know if they take 6536 03:28:04,311 --> 03:28:04,561 the training that that employer 6537 03:28:06,077 --> 03:28:06,327 is going to accept that training 6538 03:28:07,777 --> 03:28:08,027 that's huge in the health 6539 03:28:09,744 --> 03:28:09,994 industry CcSd does that for 6540 03:28:11,744 --> 03:28:11,994 several of our trainings 6541 03:28:13,511 --> 03:28:13,761 we're now starting to get 6542 03:28:15,744 --> 03:28:15,994 manufacturers to list that 6543 03:28:17,811 --> 03:28:18,061 ourciSN customized trainings are 6544 03:28:20,077 --> 03:28:20,327 part of that process and so 6545 03:28:21,744 --> 03:28:21,994 that's how we sustain that 6546 03:28:22,311 --> 03:28:22,561 employment and that talent 6547 03:28:22,844 --> 03:28:23,094 pi pe line 6548 03:28:23,644 --> 03:28:23,894 thank you 6549 03:28:26,611 --> 03:28:26,861 we have one question 6550 03:28:28,244 --> 03:28:28,494 assembliman to silva 6551 03:28:30,177 --> 03:28:30,427 thank you chair 6552 03:28:33,711 --> 03:28:33,961 Mr Corbett it's always good 6553 03:28:35,477 --> 03:28:35,727 to see you my constituent and my 6554 03:28:37,477 --> 03:28:37,727 neighbor. I know you quickly 6555 03:28:38,177 --> 03:28:38,427 glanced on this but the east 6556 03:28:39,777 --> 03:28:40,027 side training center at just a 6557 03:28:40,477 --> 03:28:40,727 two part question about that of 6558 03:28:42,244 --> 03:28:42,494 course so firstly what's the 6559 03:28:43,977 --> 03:28:44,227 actual progress with that like 6560 03:28:45,744 --> 03:28:45,994 how is it looking like with 6561 03:28:46,344 --> 03:28:46,594 the program looking like what is 6562 03:28:49,744 --> 03:28:49,994 it said to be an open opening 6563 03:28:51,511 --> 03:28:51,761 what what parts of the workforce 6564 03:28:52,244 --> 03:28:52,494 are you going to be specifically 6565 03:28:54,011 --> 03:28:54,261 focusing on the if there's going 6566 03:28:55,744 --> 03:28:55,994 to be a specific focus and then 6567 03:28:57,511 --> 03:28:57,761 secondly is the fact that I 6568 03:28:58,211 --> 03:28:58,461 think that training center is 6569 03:29:00,011 --> 03:29:00,261 ideally located it's on the 6570 03:29:00,611 --> 03:29:00,861 corner of a washing I'm sorry 6571 03:29:01,277 --> 03:29:01,527 bonanz and pickles 6572 03:29:05,477 --> 03:29:05,727 there are over5 potentially6 6573 03:29:06,211 --> 03:29:06,461 high schools within a seven 6574 03:29:07,977 --> 03:29:08,227 minute drive that we're talking 6575 03:29:08,677 --> 03:29:08,927 about anywhere from10,000 6576 03:29:09,877 --> 03:29:10,127 to12,000 you know a 6577 03:29:13,511 --> 03:29:13,761 13 to 8 year olds who are 6578 03:29:15,777 --> 03:29:16,027 looking for a some kind of a a 6579 03:29:16,411 --> 03:29:16,661 step that they can take after 6580 03:29:18,011 --> 03:29:18,261 they graduate so I was wondering 6581 03:29:19,511 --> 03:29:19,761 if there's any relationships 6582 03:29:20,277 --> 03:29:20,527 that are being built with those 6583 03:29:21,977 --> 03:29:22,227 particular schools within that 6584 03:29:23,844 --> 03:29:24,094 area there0% assembly men and 6585 03:29:24,444 --> 03:29:24,694 and so 6586 03:29:26,277 --> 03:29:26,527 we're looking at breaking 6587 03:29:27,977 --> 03:29:28,227 ground probably January so6 6588 03:29:28,544 --> 03:29:28,794 months. 6589 03:29:31,944 --> 03:29:32,194 what we know about the wetsy 6590 03:29:32,577 --> 03:29:32,827 it took him about12 months 6591 03:29:33,177 --> 03:29:33,427 construction 6592 03:29:34,211 --> 03:29:34,461 and so I firstee as 6593 03:29:39,744 --> 03:29:39,994 at the earliest running programs 6594 03:29:42,244 --> 03:29:42,494 as early as January2028. so 6595 03:29:43,844 --> 03:29:44,094 about 16 months away se7 months 6596 03:29:44,511 --> 03:29:44,761 away 6597 03:29:46,244 --> 03:29:46,494 I'm glad that you mentioned 6598 03:29:47,744 --> 03:29:47,994 the high schools we're working 6599 03:29:50,011 --> 03:29:50,261 with several high schools now on 6600 03:29:51,977 --> 03:29:52,227 an innovate an intervention 6601 03:29:53,777 --> 03:29:54,027 based workforce strategy which 6602 03:29:55,777 --> 03:29:56,027 is well identify those high 6603 03:29:57,744 --> 03:29:57,994 school seniors who said I'm not 6604 03:29:58,477 --> 03:29:58,727 going they're on target to 6605 03:29:59,011 --> 03:29:59,261 graduate 6606 03:30:00,911 --> 03:30:01,161 but they're not really 6607 03:30:02,244 --> 03:30:02,494 interested or either in post sec 6608 03:30:04,311 --> 03:30:04,561 and postsecondary anything they 6609 03:30:04,977 --> 03:30:05,227 just don't know 6610 03:30:07,544 --> 03:30:07,794 and so what we've been able to 6611 03:30:09,511 --> 03:30:09,761 do at western high school and 6612 03:30:10,244 --> 03:30:10,494 we're opening it up to a couple 6613 03:30:11,977 --> 03:30:12,227 more high schools specifically 6614 03:30:13,977 --> 03:30:14,227 in the historic west side area 6615 03:30:17,477 --> 03:30:17,727 is going and provide training 6616 03:30:19,511 --> 03:30:19,761 the last quarter of that 6617 03:30:20,211 --> 03:30:20,461 student's high school year. so 6618 03:30:23,511 --> 03:30:23,761 when they graduate they're also 6619 03:30:24,211 --> 03:30:24,461 receiving an industryrecod 6620 03:30:27,477 --> 03:30:27,727 credential and so it's bringing 6621 03:30:29,711 --> 03:30:29,961 the CTE model to them at these 6622 03:30:30,477 --> 03:30:30,727 comprehensive high schools where 6623 03:30:32,277 --> 03:30:32,527 those CTE programs are not as 6624 03:30:34,377 --> 03:30:34,627 robust so we'll do that 6625 03:30:34,911 --> 03:30:35,161 similarly with a desert 6626 03:30:39,644 --> 03:30:39,894 pines rancho Elorrado, Vegas and 6627 03:30:40,311 --> 03:30:40,561 sunrise 6628 03:30:45,944 --> 03:30:46,194 OK thank you for that we 6629 03:30:48,011 --> 03:30:48,261 appreciate your presentation you 6630 03:30:48,677 --> 03:30:48,927 spending your morning with us 6631 03:30:52,144 --> 03:30:52,394 we will close this out and we 6632 03:30:53,611 --> 03:30:53,861 will try 6633 03:30:57,477 --> 03:30:57,727 to fit in the gaming taxes and 6634 03:30:58,144 --> 03:30:58,394 then we'll break for lunch. 6635 03:31:00,577 --> 03:31:00,827 so we'll go back to agenda item 6636 03:31:01,277 --> 03:31:01,527 number6 6637 03:31:03,811 --> 03:31:04,061 and then we will break for 6638 03:31:07,644 --> 03:31:07,894 think everybody's hungry 6639 03:31:43,744 --> 03:31:43,994 i ne al and members of the 6640 03:31:44,444 --> 03:31:44,694 committee, thank you for 6641 03:31:44,977 --> 03:31:45,227 having us today 6642 03:31:47,777 --> 03:31:48,027 my name is Shelly Newe I'm 6643 03:31:49,744 --> 03:31:49,994 the senior economic analyst for 6644 03:31:50,411 --> 03:31:50,661 the Nevada Gaming Control Board 6645 03:31:54,244 --> 03:31:54,494 and we've been asked to give 6646 03:31:56,244 --> 03:31:56,494 an overview of the gaming taxes 6647 03:31:57,811 --> 03:31:58,061 and fees that are imposed by the 6648 03:31:58,477 --> 03:31:58,727 state of Nevada 6649 03:32:00,444 --> 03:32:00,694 and with that said all'll go 6650 03:32:02,044 --> 03:32:02,294 ahead and start our slide 6651 03:32:02,611 --> 03:32:02,861 presentation. 6652 03:32:07,944 --> 03:32:08,194 often in the gaming industry we 6653 03:32:09,944 --> 03:32:10,194 break our licensees down so 6654 03:32:11,477 --> 03:32:11,727 you're gonna see in our 6655 03:32:13,511 --> 03:32:13,761 taxing labels you're going to 6656 03:32:14,111 --> 03:32:14,361 see that we are broken and we've 6657 03:32:15,744 --> 03:32:15,994 broken them down into restricted 6658 03:32:17,511 --> 03:32:17,761 and nonrestricted. I thought it 6659 03:32:19,511 --> 03:32:19,761 was important to point that out 6660 03:32:20,211 --> 03:32:20,461 because as you look at some of 6661 03:32:22,011 --> 03:32:22,261 the fees you'll see that in the 6662 03:32:23,711 --> 03:32:23,961 in the name are restricted 6663 03:32:27,711 --> 03:32:27,961 licensees are those who have1f 6664 03:32:28,377 --> 03:32:28,627 slot machines 6665 03:32:31,477 --> 03:32:31,727 not more than1f so it's1f or 6666 03:32:33,777 --> 03:32:34,027 less and then if you have16 it 6667 03:32:35,911 --> 03:32:36,161 moves you to the nonrestricted 6668 03:32:36,577 --> 03:32:36,827 licensing category 6669 03:32:39,511 --> 03:32:39,761 so anybody who has16 or more 6670 03:32:40,211 --> 03:32:40,461 slot machines or if you want to 6671 03:32:41,977 --> 03:32:42,227 do game and tables or any 6672 03:32:44,144 --> 03:32:44,394 combination thereof you'll fall 6673 03:32:44,811 --> 03:32:45,061 into that category 6674 03:32:47,744 --> 03:32:47,994 uhd additionally you'll hear in 6675 03:32:49,511 --> 03:32:49,761 the gaming industry that you 6676 03:32:50,244 --> 03:32:50,494 hear us refer to group one and 6677 03:32:52,244 --> 03:32:52,494 group two licenseesroup one 6678 03:32:54,011 --> 03:32:54,261 licensees are those having gross 6679 03:32:55,977 --> 03:32:56,227 revenue over approximately8 6680 03:32:58,044 --> 03:32:58,294 million dollars and they'll fall 6681 03:32:59,544 --> 03:32:59,794 under the purview of the audit 6682 03:33:01,511 --> 03:33:01,761 division anyone in the 6683 03:33:02,011 --> 03:33:02,261 nonrestricted falling under 6684 03:33:04,044 --> 03:33:04,294 that8 million dollars threshold 6685 03:33:06,044 --> 03:33:06,294 approximately will be under the 6686 03:33:06,711 --> 03:33:06,961 purview of our tax and license 6687 03:33:07,377 --> 03:33:07,627 division. 6688 03:33:11,744 --> 03:33:11,994 so moving on to our next slide, 6689 03:33:13,977 --> 03:33:14,227 our revenues are broken down 6690 03:33:16,277 --> 03:33:16,527 into majors and minors as you 6691 03:33:17,744 --> 03:33:17,994 had a chance to maybe go through 6692 03:33:19,511 --> 03:33:19,761 our slide you saw some of the 6693 03:33:20,244 --> 03:33:20,494 percentages majorjors are 6694 03:33:21,977 --> 03:33:22,227 obviously major because they 6695 03:33:23,744 --> 03:33:23,994 bring in over 9 some% of the 6696 03:33:24,577 --> 03:33:24,827 revenue right now they're around 6697 03:33:25,244 --> 03:33:25,494 92.5% 6698 03:33:29,977 --> 03:33:30,227 the two majors are are 6699 03:33:31,977 --> 03:33:32,227 percentage fee collections and 6700 03:33:33,777 --> 03:33:34,027 our live entertainment tax 6701 03:33:35,744 --> 03:33:35,994 collections in February of this 6702 03:33:38,244 --> 03:33:38,494 year we had a presentation by 6703 03:33:39,977 --> 03:33:40,227 Michael Nakamoto who gave a 6704 03:33:41,977 --> 03:33:42,227 presentation on the LEt we are 6705 03:33:42,611 --> 03:33:42,861 also here to answer some of 6706 03:33:43,177 --> 03:33:43,427 those questions 6707 03:33:46,211 --> 03:33:46,461 percentage fee collections is 6708 03:33:48,011 --> 03:33:48,261 what we're gonna focus on here 6709 03:33:49,711 --> 03:33:49,961 we didn't reenter any 6710 03:33:50,544 --> 03:33:50,794 information on the LAT since 6711 03:33:51,211 --> 03:33:51,461 that was back in February 6712 03:33:56,244 --> 03:33:56,494 our minors we have a number of 6713 03:33:59,477 --> 03:33:59,727 miners there from annual feast 6714 03:34:01,744 --> 03:34:01,994 quarterly fees and then operator 6715 03:34:02,411 --> 03:34:02,661 so to speak type license fees 6716 03:34:05,511 --> 03:34:05,761 and then we'll go through each 6717 03:34:06,277 --> 03:34:06,527 one of those briefly as we touch 6718 03:34:07,644 --> 03:34:07,894 on the slides as we move 6719 03:34:08,211 --> 03:34:08,461 forward. 6720 03:34:12,577 --> 03:34:12,827 our first one here is the 6721 03:34:13,144 --> 03:34:13,394 percentage fees 6722 03:34:16,444 --> 03:34:16,694 this is obviously the largest 6723 03:34:18,011 --> 03:34:18,261 one that we have it's 6724 03:34:21,744 --> 03:34:21,994 approximately85.2% this last 6725 03:34:23,477 --> 03:34:23,727 fiscal year of what brought in 6726 03:34:25,511 --> 03:34:25,761 the the tax dollars for gaming 6727 03:34:26,277 --> 03:34:26,527 those are the numbers that you 6728 03:34:27,977 --> 03:34:28,227 see there for fiscal year 25 and 6729 03:34:30,211 --> 03:34:30,461 26. it is based on the 6730 03:34:32,377 --> 03:34:32,627 monthly taxable gross gaming 6731 03:34:33,044 --> 03:34:33,294 revenue 6732 03:34:36,277 --> 03:34:36,527 and a licensee will pay it in 6733 03:34:37,977 --> 03:34:38,227 the following month it's due by 6734 03:34:38,677 --> 03:34:38,927 the1fth of the following month 6735 03:34:42,211 --> 03:34:42,461 it is a tiered structure at3.5% 6736 03:34:45,711 --> 03:34:45,961 for the first54.5% of84 and 6737 03:34:47,844 --> 03:34:48,094 then6.75 of everything after 6738 03:34:48,511 --> 03:34:48,761 that 6739 03:34:50,277 --> 03:34:50,527 oftentimes when we're talking 6740 03:34:51,477 --> 03:34:51,727 though you're just gonna hear us 6741 03:34:54,044 --> 03:34:54,294 say6.75 there is still that3.5 6742 03:34:55,744 --> 03:34:55,994 and4.55 we just don't say that 6743 03:34:56,377 --> 03:34:56,627 because it's cumbersome to to 6744 03:34:57,011 --> 03:34:57,261 throw that out there 6745 03:34:59,911 --> 03:35:00,161 the last fee update was in 6746 03:35:03,744 --> 03:35:03,994 2003 back during the 20th 6747 03:35:05,511 --> 03:35:05,761 special session of the 6748 03:35:07,544 --> 03:35:07,794 legislature due to the budget 6749 03:35:09,977 --> 03:35:10,227 deficit we went from that 6750 03:35:11,477 --> 03:35:11,727 smaller percentage to the6.2r to 6751 03:35:13,977 --> 03:35:14,227 the675 nothing else in that 6752 03:35:15,511 --> 03:35:15,761 structure in the tier structure 6753 03:35:16,244 --> 03:35:16,494 changed for those lower levels 6754 03:35:22,177 --> 03:35:22,427 So moving on we also have our 6755 03:35:24,211 --> 03:35:24,461 quarterly nonrestricted slot 6756 03:35:26,544 --> 03:35:26,794 fees are quarterly restricted 6757 03:35:28,277 --> 03:35:28,527 slot fees the collections for 6758 03:35:29,944 --> 03:35:30,194 both fiscal years are there as 6759 03:35:30,644 --> 03:35:30,894 you can see 6760 03:35:34,244 --> 03:35:34,494 for the quarterly nonrestricted 6761 03:35:36,311 --> 03:35:36,561 slot fee it's a fee that's based 6762 03:35:39,977 --> 03:35:40,227 on a per slot machine basis 6763 03:35:41,711 --> 03:35:41,961 and that's for a nonrestricted 6764 03:35:43,477 --> 03:35:43,727 licensees the last update was 6765 03:35:44,344 --> 03:35:44,594 in'81 when it was10 dollars a 6766 03:35:44,911 --> 03:35:45,161 slot machine 6767 03:35:47,477 --> 03:35:47,727 then we have our quarterly 6768 03:35:49,477 --> 03:35:49,727 restricted slot fees and there's 6769 03:35:51,511 --> 03:35:51,761 a range there and again back in 6770 03:35:53,511 --> 03:35:53,761 the appendix we give you the 6771 03:35:55,511 --> 03:35:55,761 breakdown of how those are 6772 03:35:57,511 --> 03:35:57,761 paid by our licensees and it's 6773 03:35:58,211 --> 03:35:58,461 on a per device type 6774 03:36:00,677 --> 03:36:00,927 tier structure there 6775 03:36:05,744 --> 03:36:05,994 other than that because 6776 03:36:07,744 --> 03:36:07,994 it's a long appendix I'm not 6777 03:36:08,344 --> 03:36:08,594 going to go through that I'll 6778 03:36:11,911 --> 03:36:12,161 let you do that as you peruse 6779 03:36:12,577 --> 03:36:12,827 peruse the appendix there 6780 03:36:15,977 --> 03:36:16,227 then we have our quarterly 6781 03:36:16,577 --> 03:36:16,827 nonrestricted game fees 6782 03:36:20,011 --> 03:36:20,261 this payment is based on the 6783 03:36:21,511 --> 03:36:21,761 number of games and 6784 03:36:22,277 --> 03:36:22,527 nonrestricted licensee is 6785 03:36:24,277 --> 03:36:24,527 operating each quarter. if you 6786 03:36:26,277 --> 03:36:26,527 go to the statue if you try to 6787 03:36:28,244 --> 03:36:28,494 tie the dollars to our appendix 6788 03:36:29,744 --> 03:36:29,994 you're not going to do that 6789 03:36:32,011 --> 03:36:32,261 because the statute has the rate 6790 03:36:34,244 --> 03:36:34,494 in there at an annual rate so 6791 03:36:35,844 --> 03:36:36,094 it's applied at a quarterly rate 6792 03:36:37,544 --> 03:36:37,794 so you take 1/4 of that number 6793 03:36:38,144 --> 03:36:38,394 you'll get to what you see in 6794 03:36:38,811 --> 03:36:39,061 the fee structure 6795 03:36:41,977 --> 03:36:42,227 again the last update was 6796 03:36:42,544 --> 03:36:42,794 in1981 6797 03:36:45,644 --> 03:36:45,894 and I'll move on to the next tax 6798 03:36:49,744 --> 03:36:49,994 and and the quarterlies combined 6799 03:36:50,411 --> 03:36:50,661 the three that we just kind of 6800 03:36:51,977 --> 03:36:52,227 talked about they bring in about 6801 03:36:53,977 --> 03:36:54,227 2% of the collections overall so 6802 03:36:54,677 --> 03:36:54,927 it's not a material number 6803 03:36:59,744 --> 03:36:59,994 the unredeemed wagering vouchers 6804 03:37:01,611 --> 03:37:01,861 it's also one of our miners 6805 03:37:03,811 --> 03:37:04,061 this is where 6806 03:37:07,711 --> 03:37:07,961 75 % of the value of the 6807 03:37:09,744 --> 03:37:09,994 unredeemed wagering vouchers 6808 03:37:12,177 --> 03:37:12,427 on a quarterly basis go on to 6809 03:37:14,211 --> 03:37:14,461 the tax return filed by our 6810 03:37:17,511 --> 03:37:17,761 licensees they remit what they 6811 03:37:18,211 --> 03:37:18,461 do is they place basically100% 6812 03:37:20,044 --> 03:37:20,294 of the value on there takes75% 6813 03:37:21,511 --> 03:37:21,761 that gets submitted to the state 6814 03:37:24,244 --> 03:37:24,494 in whole. The other 25% gets 6815 03:37:27,744 --> 03:37:27,994 added back into the respective 6816 03:37:29,977 --> 03:37:30,227 revenue so whether it's slots or 6817 03:37:32,211 --> 03:37:32,461 sports and or quino where 6818 03:37:33,944 --> 03:37:34,194 there's vouchers it will get 6819 03:37:34,511 --> 03:37:34,761 added back to the respective 6820 03:37:35,077 --> 03:37:35,327 revenue 6821 03:37:37,744 --> 03:37:37,994 and then the percentage fee tax 6822 03:37:38,477 --> 03:37:38,727 is paid where you'll see 6823 03:37:41,877 --> 03:37:42,127 that6.75% component hit 6824 03:37:44,211 --> 03:37:44,461 so it's not that they keep it 6825 03:37:45,977 --> 03:37:46,227 and don't pay tax some people 6826 03:37:47,711 --> 03:37:47,961 think that they don't pay tax 6827 03:37:48,311 --> 03:37:48,561 when it goes back to them they 6828 03:37:49,677 --> 03:37:49,927 do pay taxes just a percentage 6829 03:37:50,344 --> 03:37:50,594 fee tax 6830 03:37:54,011 --> 03:37:54,261 then we have our manufacturer 6831 03:37:56,011 --> 03:37:56,261 and distributor license fees 6832 03:37:57,711 --> 03:37:57,961 for those coming in the door 6833 03:37:59,477 --> 03:37:59,727 that want to be licensed as a 6834 03:38:00,411 --> 03:38:00,661 manufacturer or a distributor 6835 03:38:04,011 --> 03:38:04,261 they have to pay an annual fee 6836 03:38:06,211 --> 03:38:06,461 the rates are right there 6837 03:38:09,477 --> 03:38:09,727 where you have the1000 and 6838 03:38:12,311 --> 03:38:12,561 the500 and again last update was 6839 03:38:13,011 --> 03:38:13,261 in1983 6840 03:38:17,711 --> 03:38:17,961 and we'll move on those were 6841 03:38:19,944 --> 03:38:20,194 implemented more more so for 6842 03:38:21,977 --> 03:38:22,227 oversight not because they were 6843 03:38:23,944 --> 03:38:24,194 bringing in revenue dollars it 6844 03:38:24,544 --> 03:38:24,794 was to give us oversight so that 6845 03:38:26,011 --> 03:38:26,261 we didn't have nefarious 6846 03:38:28,177 --> 03:38:28,427 individuals putting equipment 6847 03:38:29,644 --> 03:38:29,894 and and technology out there 6848 03:38:35,511 --> 03:38:35,761 Our operator of an interactive 6849 03:38:37,977 --> 03:38:38,227 gaming license is our next fee 6850 03:38:41,511 --> 03:38:41,761 those wanting to be licensed 6851 03:38:43,511 --> 03:38:43,761 for interactive gaming will pay 6852 03:38:45,711 --> 03:38:45,961 an initial fee of500,000 dollars 6853 03:38:47,511 --> 03:38:47,761 that gets them two years and 6854 03:38:48,244 --> 03:38:48,494 then from there the annual fee 6855 03:38:49,844 --> 03:38:50,094 thereafter is 250,000 6856 03:38:53,744 --> 03:38:53,994 there hasn't been any change 6857 03:38:56,244 --> 03:38:56,494 this change here would occur at 6858 03:38:59,511 --> 03:38:59,761 the commission level the board 6859 03:39:00,111 --> 03:39:00,361 and commission level where they 6860 03:39:01,744 --> 03:39:01,994 would change it as opposed to 6861 03:39:02,344 --> 03:39:02,594 the legislative level 6862 03:39:06,311 --> 03:39:06,561 moving on to our next one 6863 03:39:10,211 --> 03:39:10,461 we have the manufacturers of 6864 03:39:10,877 --> 03:39:11,127 inter gaming 6865 03:39:13,711 --> 03:39:13,961 interactive gaming systems 6866 03:39:15,477 --> 03:39:15,727 license so if you want to 6867 03:39:16,177 --> 03:39:16,427 manufacture one of those systems 6868 03:39:19,711 --> 03:39:19,961 you can also be licensed your 6869 03:39:21,944 --> 03:39:22,194 fee is125,000 thereafter it's 6870 03:39:24,144 --> 03:39:24,394 25,000 and there has been no 6871 03:39:24,711 --> 03:39:24,961 change to that fee. 6872 03:39:26,444 --> 03:39:26,694 since it's been implemented 6873 03:39:31,511 --> 03:39:31,761 another one of our minors is 6874 03:39:33,511 --> 03:39:33,761 the slot route operator this 6875 03:39:34,277 --> 03:39:34,527 authorizes the holder to place 6876 03:39:35,977 --> 03:39:36,227 slot machines in a licensed 6877 03:39:37,611 --> 03:39:37,861 location and share in the 6878 03:39:38,211 --> 03:39:38,461 profits therefrom 6879 03:39:41,744 --> 03:39:41,994 their individuals that 6880 03:39:43,744 --> 03:39:43,994 basically will go around where a 6881 03:39:44,477 --> 03:39:44,727 small business doesn't want to 6882 03:39:45,977 --> 03:39:46,227 have the manpower to do it so 6883 03:39:47,744 --> 03:39:47,994 they take on a slot route 6884 03:39:49,477 --> 03:39:49,727 operator. they come and do all 6885 03:39:50,244 --> 03:39:50,494 of the work and they get in that 6886 03:39:53,744 --> 03:39:53,994 profit sharing and share the 6887 03:39:54,344 --> 03:39:54,594 funds that that come in from 6888 03:39:55,911 --> 03:39:56,161 those devices and 6889 03:39:59,977 --> 03:40:00,227 again it's not a large tax 6890 03:40:01,811 --> 03:40:02,061 dollar that comes in the door 6891 03:40:02,477 --> 03:40:02,727 when we get to those latter 6892 03:40:03,844 --> 03:40:04,094 pages where I break that out for 6893 03:40:04,544 --> 03:40:04,794 you 6894 03:40:07,744 --> 03:40:07,994 then we have an operator of an 6895 03:40:09,977 --> 03:40:10,227 information services license 6896 03:40:12,011 --> 03:40:12,261 and this authorizes a person to 6897 03:40:13,844 --> 03:40:14,094 sell and provide information to 6898 03:40:14,511 --> 03:40:14,761 a licensed sports pool 6899 03:40:17,511 --> 03:40:17,761 this is in essence is the data 6900 03:40:19,477 --> 03:40:19,727 feed so it's basically 6901 03:40:21,477 --> 03:40:21,727 information services just saying 6902 03:40:22,211 --> 03:40:22,461 hey here's what I think the 6903 03:40:25,844 --> 03:40:26,094 lines the odds the point 6904 03:40:27,511 --> 03:40:27,761 spread should be and then the 6905 03:40:29,511 --> 03:40:29,761 lacies actually do the work to 6906 03:40:31,744 --> 03:40:31,994 accept or alter those lines 6907 03:40:32,377 --> 03:40:32,627 when they push it 6908 03:40:35,477 --> 03:40:35,727 through.gain the annual fee 6909 03:40:36,244 --> 03:40:36,494 is6000 dollars there hasn't been 6910 03:40:38,311 --> 03:40:38,561 any change. The idea behind this 6911 03:40:41,477 --> 03:40:41,727 was that while we do have the 6912 03:40:43,544 --> 03:40:43,794 data feed going in it's the 6913 03:40:44,144 --> 03:40:44,394 wager where the taxes are still 6914 03:40:44,811 --> 03:40:45,061 going to be 6915 03:40:46,111 --> 03:40:46,361 paid at the the licensee level 6916 03:40:48,511 --> 03:40:48,761 so again that's why there hasn't 6917 03:40:49,644 --> 03:40:49,894 been a change to that 6918 03:40:53,877 --> 03:40:54,127 interactive gaming service 6919 03:40:54,411 --> 03:40:54,661 provider license 6920 03:40:57,711 --> 03:40:57,961 authorizes the holder to act as 6921 03:40:59,477 --> 03:40:59,727 an interactive gaming service 6922 03:41:00,444 --> 03:41:00,694 provider they help keep that 6923 03:41:03,977 --> 03:41:04,227 platform a service provider is 6924 03:41:05,744 --> 03:41:05,994 not the one who's necessarily 6925 03:41:07,477 --> 03:41:07,727 operating it they'll sort of 6926 03:41:08,077 --> 03:41:08,327 push the payments through the 6927 03:41:09,744 --> 03:41:09,994 cycles just making sure that it 6928 03:41:11,477 --> 03:41:11,727 happens so that the interactive 6929 03:41:12,611 --> 03:41:12,861 gaming operator has a 6930 03:41:13,044 --> 03:41:13,294 functioning properly 6931 03:41:16,077 --> 03:41:16,327 again no fee update to that 6932 03:41:20,477 --> 03:41:20,727 and not a large tax fee 6933 03:41:20,977 --> 03:41:21,227 there 6934 03:41:25,744 --> 03:41:25,994 the other tax collections 6935 03:41:27,477 --> 03:41:27,727 that we have we have the 6936 03:41:28,277 --> 03:41:28,527 nonrestricted restricted annual 6937 03:41:29,777 --> 03:41:30,027 slot tax and we have the 6938 03:41:32,244 --> 03:41:32,494 nonrestricted annual games tax 6939 03:41:34,011 --> 03:41:34,261 both of those are ones that the 6940 03:41:36,211 --> 03:41:36,461 gaming control board administers 6941 03:41:39,477 --> 03:41:39,727 the amount that the annual 6942 03:41:40,111 --> 03:41:40,361 slot tax brought in 6943 03:41:45,477 --> 03:41:45,727 is the ir7.9 million in fiscal 6944 03:41:47,711 --> 03:41:47,961 year 25 and in fiscal year 26 it 6945 03:41:49,977 --> 03:41:50,227 was37.8 milliongain that money 6946 03:41:51,777 --> 03:41:52,027 we just administer it and it 6947 03:41:53,644 --> 03:41:53,894 goes back out to the respective 6948 03:41:54,344 --> 03:41:54,594 parties that you see 6949 03:41:56,144 --> 03:41:56,394 the annual games fee 6950 03:41:59,744 --> 03:41:59,994 we have that the proceeds are 6951 03:42:02,011 --> 03:42:02,261 retained we have a portion that 6952 03:42:04,211 --> 03:42:04,461 we retain it still goes to the 6953 03:42:07,477 --> 03:42:07,727 state we do a calculation 6954 03:42:08,444 --> 03:42:08,694 every year we reconcile with the 6955 03:42:09,977 --> 03:42:10,227 controller's office and it's a 6956 03:42:11,744 --> 03:42:11,994 small portion where the 97, 6957 03:42:13,977 --> 03:42:14,227 and101000 are the portion that 6958 03:42:16,177 --> 03:42:16,427 was retained for the services of 6959 03:42:16,877 --> 03:42:17,127 administering the tax 6960 03:42:19,977 --> 03:42:20,227 and then the rest goes back into 6961 03:42:20,677 --> 03:42:20,927 the general fund 6962 03:42:23,777 --> 03:42:24,027 and it's divided to the county 6963 03:42:26,244 --> 03:42:26,494 so every month our our tax and 6964 03:42:28,011 --> 03:42:28,261 license division will process 6965 03:42:29,477 --> 03:42:29,727 and send money out to our 6966 03:42:30,011 --> 03:42:30,261 counties there's an 6967 03:42:31,744 --> 03:42:31,994 undistributed portion when they 6968 03:42:32,611 --> 03:42:32,861 get to year end they rew it up 6969 03:42:33,277 --> 03:42:33,527 they calculate 6970 03:42:35,977 --> 03:42:36,227 what our portion is for 6971 03:42:37,711 --> 03:42:37,961 administering it. they pushed 6972 03:42:38,377 --> 03:42:38,627 that back and then 6973 03:42:48,044 --> 03:42:48,294 So in looking at our collections 6974 03:42:50,311 --> 03:42:50,561 for the last10 years years there 6975 03:42:52,011 --> 03:42:52,261 you can see what the growth rate 6976 03:42:54,277 --> 03:42:54,527 has been or the decline has 6977 03:42:57,511 --> 03:42:57,761 been on a year over year basis 6978 03:42:58,377 --> 03:42:58,627 that's how those are presented 6979 03:43:05,511 --> 03:43:05,761 then moving on here the majority 6980 03:43:06,244 --> 03:43:06,494 of the collections come from 6981 03:43:09,511 --> 03:43:09,761 Clark County where you see86.7% 6982 03:43:10,211 --> 03:43:10,461 come from the Clark County 6983 03:43:13,777 --> 03:43:14,027 market6.9% comes from the washoe 6984 03:43:16,277 --> 03:43:16,527 county marketgain those are the 6985 03:43:18,277 --> 03:43:18,527 primary total collections being 6986 03:43:20,311 --> 03:43:20,561 that1.2 billion dollar figure 6987 03:43:23,711 --> 03:43:23,961 that you see there in our recent 6988 03:43:24,377 --> 03:43:24,627 fiscal year 26 6989 03:43:27,511 --> 03:43:27,761 moving on let me move back 6990 03:43:29,477 --> 03:43:29,727 here when you see the breakdown 6991 03:43:31,511 --> 03:43:31,761 there you can see the 6992 03:43:32,244 --> 03:43:32,494 percentages the percentage fees 6993 03:43:33,744 --> 03:43:33,994 again was a major live 6994 03:43:35,477 --> 03:43:35,727 entertainment tax was one of our 6995 03:43:37,511 --> 03:43:37,761 majors those two in total their 6996 03:43:41,711 --> 03:43:41,961 makeup that 92.5% again it 6997 03:43:43,511 --> 03:43:43,761 varies when the fees come in 6998 03:43:44,111 --> 03:43:44,361 where that percentage of be but 6999 03:43:45,877 --> 03:43:46,127 it's been over 90% for a long 7000 03:43:46,544 --> 03:43:46,794 time 7001 03:43:50,244 --> 03:43:50,494 our annual taxes range around 7002 03:43:53,811 --> 03:43:54,061 that3.1% our quarterly taxes in 7003 03:43:55,811 --> 03:43:56,061 total about 2% getting us to 7004 03:43:56,777 --> 03:43:57,027 that100% of our collections 7005 03:44:04,244 --> 03:44:04,494 on the back I provided the 7006 03:44:05,511 --> 03:44:05,761 license information because when 7007 03:44:06,177 --> 03:44:06,427 you're looking at if it's a 7008 03:44:08,277 --> 03:44:08,527 nonrestricted or a per device 7009 03:44:10,277 --> 03:44:10,527 type fee it's important to know 7010 03:44:13,977 --> 03:44:14,227 the breakdown we have over 2000 7011 03:44:16,277 --> 03:44:16,527 restricteds this past fiscal 7012 03:44:18,011 --> 03:44:18,261 year we have over465 7013 03:44:20,244 --> 03:44:20,494 nonrestricted locations of that 7014 03:44:23,644 --> 03:44:23,894 about133 or group one the 7015 03:44:24,211 --> 03:44:24,461 remainder are group two 7016 03:44:26,011 --> 03:44:26,261 and again you can see the 7017 03:44:27,744 --> 03:44:27,994 manufacturers distributors so 7018 03:44:29,477 --> 03:44:29,727 those are the groups that fall 7019 03:44:30,211 --> 03:44:30,461 into those categories where you 7020 03:44:32,211 --> 03:44:32,461 see the fees if you wanted to 7021 03:44:33,677 --> 03:44:33,927 to look at how those 7022 03:44:34,111 --> 03:44:34,361 calculations are done 7023 03:44:39,477 --> 03:44:39,727 our next breakdown has the slot 7024 03:44:40,244 --> 03:44:40,494 machines by type so again that 7025 03:44:43,477 --> 03:44:43,727 you can see how many devices 7026 03:44:45,477 --> 03:44:45,727 are coming in on those tax 7027 03:44:47,711 --> 03:44:47,961 returns when those are filed and 7028 03:44:49,777 --> 03:44:50,027 we we follow those again the 7029 03:44:50,377 --> 03:44:50,627 number is climbing in the 7030 03:44:53,777 --> 03:44:54,027 multidenomination category 7031 03:44:55,477 --> 03:44:55,727 simply because you have a 7032 03:44:57,744 --> 03:44:57,994 variety to offer patrons 7033 03:44:59,677 --> 03:44:59,927 that's what our licensees have 7034 03:45:00,377 --> 03:45:00,627 said in our conversations. 7035 03:45:06,011 --> 03:45:06,261 Going on to the next one again 7036 03:45:07,944 --> 03:45:08,194 this is for our restricted 7037 03:45:09,977 --> 03:45:10,227 locations this is the breakdown 7038 03:45:12,244 --> 03:45:12,494 of their devices just wanted 7039 03:45:14,011 --> 03:45:14,261 to have you be able to see the 7040 03:45:15,744 --> 03:45:15,994 totals there again the multi 7041 03:45:18,411 --> 03:45:18,661 denom are the largest groups for 7042 03:45:19,144 --> 03:45:19,394 the restrictedss 7043 03:45:20,277 --> 03:45:20,527 as well 7044 03:45:26,211 --> 03:45:26,461 then we get to the page here 7045 03:45:27,711 --> 03:45:27,961 where we talk about our table 7046 03:45:29,777 --> 03:45:30,027 counter and our card games we 7047 03:45:31,477 --> 03:45:31,727 just have a breakdown there 7048 03:45:32,077 --> 03:45:32,327 because again if you're 7049 03:45:33,977 --> 03:45:34,227 wondering on the games and 7050 03:45:35,744 --> 03:45:35,994 how those fees are paid if it's 7051 03:45:37,944 --> 03:45:38,194 on a by gameme you have the 7052 03:45:40,011 --> 03:45:40,261 totals there to do those 7053 03:45:41,744 --> 03:45:41,994 calculations and you can see 7054 03:45:43,744 --> 03:45:43,994 what's popular out on the floors 7055 03:45:45,644 --> 03:45:45,894 throughout the state of Nevada 7056 03:45:46,311 --> 03:45:46,561 by seeing those numbers 7057 03:45:49,644 --> 03:45:49,894 I I know you're still presenting 7058 03:45:51,844 --> 03:45:52,094 but I I guess 7059 03:45:54,411 --> 03:45:54,661 go ahead and finish I just 7060 03:45:58,244 --> 03:45:58,494 are you sure you don't wanna ask 7061 03:46:00,144 --> 03:46:00,394 it's hurting my soul so 7062 03:46:04,244 --> 03:46:04,494 well'll just I'll just do the 7063 03:46:06,244 --> 03:46:06,494 simple one so on the on the 7064 03:46:09,511 --> 03:46:09,761 nonrestricted slot machines by 7065 03:46:10,111 --> 03:46:10,361 type. I mean 7066 03:46:13,811 --> 03:46:14,061 I knew this was an issue but I 7067 03:46:15,744 --> 03:46:15,994 thought that you know they were 7068 03:46:17,777 --> 03:46:18,027 very limited but there's still a 7069 03:46:19,877 --> 03:46:20,127 lot of slot machines after they 7070 03:46:20,544 --> 03:46:20,794 got rid of the penny. 7071 03:46:23,744 --> 03:46:23,994 that's still a high number, 7072 03:46:25,744 --> 03:46:25,994 right so how how are how is that 7073 03:46:26,511 --> 03:46:26,761 being mitigated now that the 7074 03:46:27,677 --> 03:46:27,927 penny is no longer being minted. 7075 03:46:31,644 --> 03:46:31,894 so in terms of the penny 7076 03:46:32,211 --> 03:46:32,461 cessation 7077 03:46:35,511 --> 03:46:35,761 the devices themselves generally 7078 03:46:36,244 --> 03:46:36,494 at most of our licenses other 7079 03:46:37,977 --> 03:46:38,227 than those who have really old 7080 03:46:38,677 --> 03:46:38,927 devices 7081 03:46:43,977 --> 03:46:44,227 we'll kick out a voucher and so 7082 03:46:46,011 --> 03:46:46,261 in our discussions with our 7083 03:46:47,511 --> 03:46:47,761 licensees to see if the penny 7084 03:46:48,244 --> 03:46:48,494 cessation would present a 7085 03:46:51,511 --> 03:46:51,761 problem to them. Many of them 7086 03:46:53,744 --> 03:46:53,994 stockpiled pennies and have 7087 03:46:55,744 --> 03:46:55,994 pennies for the next 2 to3 7088 03:46:57,744 --> 03:46:57,994 fiscal years because they 7089 03:46:59,511 --> 03:46:59,761 were planning for that so in 7090 03:47:00,144 --> 03:47:00,394 terms of the devices that they 7091 03:47:00,811 --> 03:47:01,061 offer 7092 03:47:04,011 --> 03:47:04,261 they they never had a penny 7093 03:47:05,744 --> 03:47:05,994 machine where you're literally 7094 03:47:07,477 --> 03:47:07,727 dropping pennies and you you'll 7095 03:47:09,477 --> 03:47:09,727 still feed coin if that if I'm 7096 03:47:10,111 --> 03:47:10,361 understanding your question 7097 03:47:12,011 --> 03:47:12,261 correctly is the penny piece is 7098 03:47:15,511 --> 03:47:15,761 not an issue because the voucher 7099 03:47:16,277 --> 03:47:16,527 is typically what's issued from 7100 03:47:18,011 --> 03:47:18,261 the devices they're going to go 7101 03:47:19,777 --> 03:47:20,027 to a redemption machine and get 7102 03:47:22,044 --> 03:47:22,294 paid if it issues a new voucher 7103 03:47:22,677 --> 03:47:22,927 for the change component 7104 03:47:26,277 --> 03:47:26,527 there's you know and again it 7105 03:47:28,044 --> 03:47:28,294 would depend on licenseee 7106 03:47:29,477 --> 03:47:29,727 they'll either have to go to the 7107 03:47:32,011 --> 03:47:32,261 cage or in some cases the 7108 03:47:33,511 --> 03:47:33,761 redemption machine will kick out 7109 03:47:35,511 --> 03:47:35,761 the exact change so there's 7110 03:47:37,744 --> 03:47:37,994 still allowed to do that when we 7111 03:47:38,477 --> 03:47:38,727 gave the industry notice 7112 03:47:41,511 --> 03:47:41,761 allowing them to round up 7113 03:47:42,277 --> 03:47:42,527 some of them are still trying to 7114 03:47:44,277 --> 03:47:44,527 decide what they want to do but 7115 03:47:45,511 --> 03:47:45,761 because they've stockpiled 7116 03:47:47,744 --> 03:47:47,994 pennies they are still paying to 7117 03:47:50,044 --> 03:47:50,294 the cents for those who maybe 7118 03:47:51,511 --> 03:47:51,761 didn't have pennies or don't 7119 03:47:52,277 --> 03:47:52,527 have them on hand at the moment 7120 03:47:53,844 --> 03:47:54,094 they are choosing and have to 7121 03:47:54,511 --> 03:47:54,761 identify 7122 03:47:56,211 --> 03:47:56,461 identify it in their internal 7123 03:47:57,977 --> 03:47:58,227 controls whether they're going 7124 03:47:59,977 --> 03:48:00,227 round up or do the round up 7125 03:48:01,477 --> 03:48:01,727 round down depending on whether 7126 03:48:02,244 --> 03:48:02,494 it's you know the two sons down 7127 03:48:04,211 --> 03:48:04,461 or the three or four cents up 7128 03:48:07,544 --> 03:48:07,794 and so they've been factoring 7129 03:48:08,211 --> 03:48:08,461 that in and if they keep the 7130 03:48:11,711 --> 03:48:11,961 documentation you know again 7131 03:48:13,511 --> 03:48:13,761 they'll get to take the ride off 7132 03:48:14,244 --> 03:48:14,494 but because they've been 7133 03:48:15,811 --> 03:48:16,061 stockpiling pennies right now it 7134 03:48:17,777 --> 03:48:18,027 is not a concern but because the 7135 03:48:19,511 --> 03:48:19,761 devices themselves issue 7136 03:48:20,644 --> 03:48:20,894 vouchers. there hasn't been a 7137 03:48:21,244 --> 03:48:21,494 concern 7138 03:48:24,311 --> 03:48:24,561 I had heard from one of the 7139 03:48:26,511 --> 03:48:26,761 local casinos that they were 7140 03:48:30,044 --> 03:48:30,294 having to like get pennies from 7141 03:48:31,511 --> 03:48:31,761 like so if they're in like 7142 03:48:33,511 --> 03:48:33,761 another state kind of shuffling 7143 03:48:37,511 --> 03:48:37,761 pennies between casinos that 7144 03:48:39,777 --> 03:48:40,027 may not actually be here because 7145 03:48:41,777 --> 03:48:42,027 there was a penny shortage so it 7146 03:48:43,511 --> 03:48:43,761 was almost like do you have any 7147 03:48:44,211 --> 03:48:44,461 pennies on hand? can we have 7148 03:48:44,777 --> 03:48:45,027 some 7149 03:48:47,111 --> 03:48:47,361 so knowing that 7150 03:48:49,711 --> 03:48:49,961 you know again not only 7151 03:48:51,944 --> 03:48:52,194 licensees planned so I'm I'm 7152 03:48:52,577 --> 03:48:52,827 sure that there might be a few 7153 03:48:54,244 --> 03:48:54,494 licensees that haven't maybe 7154 03:48:55,977 --> 03:48:56,227 stockpiled their pennies per se 7155 03:48:57,744 --> 03:48:57,994 but I reached out to a number of 7156 03:48:59,744 --> 03:48:59,994 our licensees but for those who 7157 03:49:01,711 --> 03:49:01,961 didn't that is part of why we 7158 03:49:02,311 --> 03:49:02,561 issued the industry notice that 7159 03:49:04,211 --> 03:49:04,461 said because you may not have it 7160 03:49:05,511 --> 03:49:05,761 because we know that getting 7161 03:49:06,277 --> 03:49:06,527 pennies may be an issue we're 7162 03:49:07,977 --> 03:49:08,227 giving you the opportunity to do 7163 03:49:10,011 --> 03:49:10,261 the round up roundow or the 7164 03:49:10,577 --> 03:49:10,827 round up 7165 03:49:13,511 --> 03:49:13,761 you know to pay your patron you 7166 03:49:14,277 --> 03:49:14,527 have to identify it has to be 7167 03:49:16,011 --> 03:49:16,261 clear to the patron and so they 7168 03:49:18,011 --> 03:49:18,261 have that out so they're not 7169 03:49:19,744 --> 03:49:19,994 required to have to go try to 7170 03:49:21,744 --> 03:49:21,994 chase down the pennies if 7171 03:49:23,744 --> 03:49:23,994 they didn't plan for that but 7172 03:49:24,411 --> 03:49:24,661 again in speaking with many of 7173 03:49:25,511 --> 03:49:25,761 our licensees because I was 7174 03:49:27,511 --> 03:49:27,761 doing an evaluation of that to 7175 03:49:29,511 --> 03:49:29,761 see what the impact would be for 7176 03:49:31,511 --> 03:49:31,761 our fiscal year for the next 2 7177 03:49:32,144 --> 03:49:32,394 to 3 years. I wanted to know if 7178 03:49:33,777 --> 03:49:34,027 it would impact us but many of 7179 03:49:34,411 --> 03:49:34,661 them have come back and said 7180 03:49:36,011 --> 03:49:36,261 we've been stockpiling pennies 7181 03:49:36,711 --> 03:49:36,961 and been able to pay our 7182 03:49:38,577 --> 03:49:38,827 customers and we're making them 7183 03:49:39,244 --> 03:49:39,494 whole so 7184 03:49:43,511 --> 03:49:43,761 and and just one final comment 7185 03:49:44,244 --> 03:49:44,494 and then we'll just close this 7186 03:49:45,744 --> 03:49:45,994 out because I know everybody's 7187 03:49:46,577 --> 03:49:46,827 hungry it's like somes it's it's 7188 03:49:52,244 --> 03:49:52,494 some of the statutes haven't 7189 03:49:55,511 --> 03:49:55,761 been changed in like43 years or 7190 03:49:58,011 --> 03:49:58,261 is it45 I mean but43 as a 7191 03:50:00,311 --> 03:50:00,561 minimum 40 years they haven't 7192 03:50:01,011 --> 03:50:01,261 been touched. 7193 03:50:05,711 --> 03:50:05,961 and again the gaming control 7194 03:50:07,477 --> 03:50:07,727 board only administers what 7195 03:50:09,944 --> 03:50:10,194 comes through legislation so 7196 03:50:12,011 --> 03:50:12,261 I'm sure as the casinos you know 7197 03:50:13,744 --> 03:50:13,994 go through thinking where do we 7198 03:50:15,511 --> 03:50:15,761 want to stand on that they play 7199 03:50:16,277 --> 03:50:16,527 a part in that you know with the 7200 03:50:17,977 --> 03:50:18,227 lobbyists or any of the interest 7201 03:50:19,511 --> 03:50:19,761 groups at the end of the day 7202 03:50:20,177 --> 03:50:20,427 we're just going to administer 7203 03:50:20,844 --> 03:50:21,094 what 7204 03:50:22,677 --> 03:50:22,927 what is changed 7205 03:50:27,977 --> 03:50:28,227 and and that's where we you know 7206 03:50:29,711 --> 03:50:29,961 we don't pick a policy saying 7207 03:50:30,344 --> 03:50:30,594 hey change this order hey change 7208 03:50:31,744 --> 03:50:31,994 that one this will make it 7209 03:50:33,511 --> 03:50:33,761 better, this will make it worse. 7210 03:50:34,244 --> 03:50:34,494 we're just gonna administer 7211 03:50:36,111 --> 03:50:36,361 the tax that that gets 7212 03:50:36,577 --> 03:50:36,827 implemented in law 7213 03:50:43,611 --> 03:50:43,861 I think you had one 7214 03:50:46,411 --> 03:50:46,661 or you were done 7215 03:50:51,477 --> 03:50:51,727 Yeah, so in in our slide 7216 03:50:52,211 --> 03:50:52,461 count you know I wanted you to 7217 03:50:53,944 --> 03:50:54,194 see or to be able to see that 7218 03:50:55,711 --> 03:50:55,961 the devices went down. I know 7219 03:50:56,311 --> 03:50:56,561 there's been some questions 7220 03:50:59,477 --> 03:50:59,727 that I've had with uhlCB as well 7221 03:51:01,711 --> 03:51:01,961 as the governor's officeice 7222 03:51:03,744 --> 03:51:03,994 of finance about device count 7223 03:51:05,511 --> 03:51:05,761 and you know where do we stand 7224 03:51:07,711 --> 03:51:07,961 and you could see for before 7225 03:51:09,711 --> 03:51:09,961 COVID the device count was up 7226 03:51:11,744 --> 03:51:11,994 for the slots and the same is 7227 03:51:13,477 --> 03:51:13,727 true on the tables when we go to 7228 03:51:14,444 --> 03:51:14,694 the next slide but in looking 7229 03:51:16,344 --> 03:51:16,594 at our collections you're still 7230 03:51:17,011 --> 03:51:17,261 gonna see that 7231 03:51:20,177 --> 03:51:20,427 even though device count is 7232 03:51:22,211 --> 03:51:22,461 going down they've been able 7233 03:51:25,511 --> 03:51:25,761 to focus on whether it be 7234 03:51:29,477 --> 03:51:29,727 promotions whether it be 7235 03:51:30,211 --> 03:51:30,461 what they're offering for their 7236 03:51:31,944 --> 03:51:32,194 rooms or their meals or 7237 03:51:32,411 --> 03:51:32,661 whatever's going to draw 7238 03:51:33,711 --> 03:51:33,961 somebody in because again 7239 03:51:35,477 --> 03:51:35,727 tourism the macroeconomics 7240 03:51:36,177 --> 03:51:36,427 everything is playing a part 7241 03:51:39,477 --> 03:51:39,727 when COID when we came back out 7242 03:51:41,711 --> 03:51:41,961 ofOVID our licensees didn't 7243 03:51:43,877 --> 03:51:44,127 necessarily have employees 7244 03:51:44,444 --> 03:51:44,694 come back to work 7245 03:51:47,677 --> 03:51:47,927 and in order you know to have 7246 03:51:49,711 --> 03:51:49,961 more devices and have more games 7247 03:51:51,511 --> 03:51:51,761 you need the employees that are 7248 03:51:53,977 --> 03:51:54,227 gonna support those extras 7249 03:51:55,777 --> 03:51:56,027 that you have and they they 7250 03:51:57,511 --> 03:51:57,761 didn't come back but then you 7251 03:51:58,211 --> 03:51:58,461 also look at we had the social 7252 03:52:01,711 --> 03:52:01,961 distancing requirements we 7253 03:52:02,477 --> 03:52:02,727 have more innovative games if 7254 03:52:03,744 --> 03:52:03,994 you look at some of the slot 7255 03:52:04,311 --> 03:52:04,561 machines they're bigger than 7256 03:52:06,211 --> 03:52:06,461 ever they take up more space but 7257 03:52:07,977 --> 03:52:08,227 they offer more games so that's 7258 03:52:09,711 --> 03:52:09,961 why you see sort of the the 7259 03:52:11,477 --> 03:52:11,727 trend of moving to the multi 7260 03:52:13,877 --> 03:52:14,127 denom games because they want 7261 03:52:14,544 --> 03:52:14,794 variety and it 7262 03:52:16,177 --> 03:52:16,427 frees up that space so that you 7263 03:52:17,944 --> 03:52:18,194 still don't cause that concern 7264 03:52:18,611 --> 03:52:18,861 that some people have related to 7265 03:52:19,311 --> 03:52:19,561 the health issue 7266 03:52:23,711 --> 03:52:23,961 and then our licensees have said 7267 03:52:25,711 --> 03:52:25,961 because if they don't bring all 7268 03:52:27,477 --> 03:52:27,727 the games back whether it be the 7269 03:52:29,477 --> 03:52:29,727 devices or the table games 7270 03:52:30,244 --> 03:52:30,494 they're focusing on the quality 7271 03:52:32,011 --> 03:52:32,261 of the clients the quality of 7272 03:52:35,744 --> 03:52:35,994 the customers trying to cater 7273 03:52:38,011 --> 03:52:38,261 because in the end it also saves 7274 03:52:39,744 --> 03:52:39,994 them money from a monetary 7275 03:52:40,377 --> 03:52:40,627 standpoint based on my 7276 03:52:40,877 --> 03:52:41,127 discussions with our licensees 7277 03:52:41,511 --> 03:52:41,761 so 7278 03:52:43,977 --> 03:52:44,227 I think in seeing what our 7279 03:52:44,511 --> 03:52:44,761 licensees have done across the 7280 03:52:45,177 --> 03:52:45,427 state 7281 03:52:48,177 --> 03:52:48,427 you know in the events the 7282 03:52:50,177 --> 03:52:50,427 efforts from our Las Vegas 7283 03:52:52,244 --> 03:52:52,494 conventionenter Authority and up 7284 03:52:53,777 --> 03:52:54,027 in Reno where they're focusing 7285 03:52:56,011 --> 03:52:56,261 on you know trying to to bring 7286 03:52:56,711 --> 03:52:56,961 the events that will draw the 7287 03:52:58,277 --> 03:52:58,527 people in all of those things 7288 03:52:59,977 --> 03:53:00,227 help they'll drive the room 7289 03:53:02,211 --> 03:53:02,461 revenue they'll drive the food 7290 03:53:04,277 --> 03:53:04,527 and some of those it may not 7291 03:53:06,044 --> 03:53:06,294 drive necessarily the gaming but 7292 03:53:07,877 --> 03:53:08,127 our licensees have done well 7293 03:53:08,544 --> 03:53:08,794 with 7294 03:53:11,711 --> 03:53:11,961 you know what they have 7295 03:53:13,511 --> 03:53:13,761 because again the employee count 7296 03:53:15,744 --> 03:53:15,994 has gone down so you'll see in 7297 03:53:17,711 --> 03:53:17,961 the abstract report that I 7298 03:53:19,511 --> 03:53:19,761 referenced as one of the 7299 03:53:20,211 --> 03:53:20,461 resources for you and it comes 7300 03:53:22,177 --> 03:53:22,427 in the legislative report that 7301 03:53:23,744 --> 03:53:23,994 we submit at the beginning of 7302 03:53:24,444 --> 03:53:24,694 the year before the session 7303 03:53:25,011 --> 03:53:25,261 starts 7304 03:53:27,711 --> 03:53:27,961 we referenced a number of 7305 03:53:29,711 --> 03:53:29,961 employees you'll see their net 7306 03:53:30,411 --> 03:53:30,661 income you'll see their gaming 7307 03:53:31,744 --> 03:53:31,994 income you'll see all of their 7308 03:53:34,244 --> 03:53:34,494 taxes the payroll you'll see the 7309 03:53:36,244 --> 03:53:36,494 health of the industry and where 7310 03:53:39,744 --> 03:53:39,994 they're at and so you know 7311 03:53:41,477 --> 03:53:41,727 all of those things taken into 7312 03:53:42,411 --> 03:53:42,661 account but overall the 7313 03:53:43,677 --> 03:53:43,927 collections have still gone up 7314 03:53:47,744 --> 03:53:47,994 I think that says about a lot 7315 03:53:48,411 --> 03:53:48,661 about the licensees and working 7316 03:53:49,977 --> 03:53:50,227 with what they have and focusing 7317 03:53:51,711 --> 03:53:51,961 on the quality of the the 7318 03:53:53,511 --> 03:53:53,761 customer and the clients that 7319 03:53:54,211 --> 03:53:54,461 come through despite the 7320 03:53:55,644 --> 03:53:55,894 macroeconomic situations 7321 03:54:13,944 --> 03:54:14,194 I don't think members want to 7322 03:54:16,377 --> 03:54:16,627 ask any questions do you? No. so 7323 03:54:18,211 --> 03:54:18,461 thank you for your 7324 03:54:20,177 --> 03:54:20,427 presentation. I'm sure I have 7325 03:54:21,877 --> 03:54:22,127 lots of questions offline 7326 03:54:26,177 --> 03:54:26,427 but this was a really good 7327 03:54:27,977 --> 03:54:28,227 presentation if if we don't have 7328 03:54:29,744 --> 03:54:29,994 the link if you could just share 7329 03:54:31,944 --> 03:54:32,194 the link for the abstract report 7330 03:54:34,211 --> 03:54:34,461 just so you know folks have 7331 03:54:34,844 --> 03:54:35,094 it or 7332 03:54:38,077 --> 03:54:38,327 something you can send so folks 7333 03:54:38,744 --> 03:54:38,994 can read it 7334 03:54:41,744 --> 03:54:41,994 that would be helpful but 7335 03:54:42,377 --> 03:54:42,627 once again thank you for your 7336 03:54:44,111 --> 03:54:44,361 presentation and I will follow 7337 03:54:44,844 --> 03:54:45,094 up 7338 03:54:47,744 --> 03:54:47,994 and we will go ahead and break 7339 03:54:49,977 --> 03:54:50,227 for lunch and then finish out 7340 03:54:50,644 --> 03:54:50,894 this agenda and work session so 7341 03:54:54,444 --> 03:54:54,694 thank you everybody for sticking 7342 03:54:55,677 --> 03:54:55,927 with this but it's been 7343 03:54:57,644 --> 03:54:57,894 informative so 7344 03:55:01,677 --> 03:55:01,927 OK 7345 03:55:03,644 --> 03:55:03,894 we are on recess 7346 03:55:39,544 --> 03:55:39,794 so we'll do lunch for like 20 7347 03:55:40,144 --> 03:55:40,394 minutes for anybody that's just 7348 03:55:41,677 --> 03:55:41,927 waiting for the presentation 7349 03:55:42,311 --> 03:55:42,561 we'll be right back we'll make 7350 04:25:03,711 --> 04:25:03,961 good afternoon everyone we are 7351 04:25:04,344 --> 04:25:04,594 coming back from recess 7352 04:25:08,277 --> 04:25:08,527 we will so I need to make an 7353 04:25:10,277 --> 04:25:10,527 announcement assemblywoman 7354 04:25:13,477 --> 04:25:13,727 Anderson is now 7355 04:25:16,244 --> 04:25:16,494 subing for assemblywoman 7356 04:25:16,777 --> 04:25:17,027 backcchus and 7357 04:25:21,711 --> 04:25:21,961 assemblyman de Silva is now here 7358 04:25:23,977 --> 04:25:24,227 for himself and so if we could 7359 04:25:24,611 --> 04:25:24,861 correct the record for 7360 04:25:30,244 --> 04:25:30,494 the rest of the meeting on who 7361 04:25:30,911 --> 04:25:31,161 is present 7362 04:25:32,311 --> 04:25:32,561 madam secretary 7363 04:25:35,977 --> 04:25:36,227 it would be appreciated. OK. 7364 04:25:40,211 --> 04:25:40,461 so and also assemblywoman 7365 04:25:42,144 --> 04:25:42,394 backcchus is absent excuse for 7366 04:25:42,811 --> 04:25:43,061 the record. 7367 04:25:47,744 --> 04:25:47,994 OK so we are now going to go to 7368 04:25:48,411 --> 04:25:48,661 agenda item number8. 7369 04:25:51,777 --> 04:25:52,027 which is the overview and 7370 04:25:52,411 --> 04:25:52,661 discussion of sales and use tax 7371 04:25:53,111 --> 04:25:53,361 rate 7372 04:25:56,277 --> 04:25:56,527 and call Mister Schiller county 7373 04:25:57,677 --> 04:25:57,927 manager and Joannajacob. 7374 04:25:59,811 --> 04:26:00,061 government affairs manager 7375 04:26:23,511 --> 04:26:23,761 good afternoon chair. I am 7376 04:26:25,744 --> 04:26:25,994 Joannajacobs for the record and 7377 04:26:27,511 --> 04:26:27,761 with clark County and I am just 7378 04:26:29,744 --> 04:26:29,994 gonna see if I can start our OK 7379 04:26:30,411 --> 04:26:30,661 there it goes 7380 04:26:33,511 --> 04:26:33,761 I hope everybody enjoyed their 7381 04:26:35,511 --> 04:26:35,761 lunch and it's a pleasure to be 7382 04:26:38,011 --> 04:26:38,261 with you this afternoon 7383 04:26:40,011 --> 04:26:40,261 here at the table with me is our 7384 04:26:41,811 --> 04:26:42,061 Clark County manager Kevin 7385 04:26:44,311 --> 04:26:44,561 Schiller and to my left is our 7386 04:26:47,477 --> 04:26:47,727 director of social servicesjamie 7387 04:26:49,477 --> 04:26:49,727 Sorenson. we also have 7388 04:26:52,011 --> 04:26:52,261 present today our director of 7389 04:26:54,044 --> 04:26:54,294 clinical services Jill Moranno 7390 04:26:55,511 --> 04:26:55,761 we're gonna kind of rotate in 7391 04:26:56,277 --> 04:26:56,527 and out as we go through our 7392 04:26:59,511 --> 04:26:59,761 presentation because the funding 7393 04:27:00,177 --> 04:27:00,427 that we're going to talk about 7394 04:27:00,844 --> 04:27:01,094 funds a variety of programs in 7395 04:27:02,344 --> 04:27:02,594 lar k County 7396 04:27:05,744 --> 04:27:05,994 so I'll hand it over to our 7397 04:27:07,511 --> 04:27:07,761 county manager who's going to 7398 04:27:08,344 --> 04:27:08,594 walk us through the first couple 7399 04:27:09,011 --> 04:27:09,261 slides 7400 04:27:13,511 --> 04:27:13,761 good afternoon chair and members 7401 04:27:14,211 --> 04:27:14,461 of the committee. I'm glad you 7402 04:27:14,911 --> 04:27:15,161 got some lunch. 7403 04:27:19,744 --> 04:27:19,994 so pleasure to be here. I'll 7404 04:27:21,511 --> 04:27:21,761 first say for the record 7405 04:27:22,244 --> 04:27:22,494 Kevin Schiller county manager 7406 04:27:25,477 --> 04:27:25,727 and also it was nice sitting in 7407 04:27:27,511 --> 04:27:27,761 the audience today listening to 7408 04:27:28,244 --> 04:27:28,494 the conversation because I think 7409 04:27:30,011 --> 04:27:30,261 some of the challenges you guys 7410 04:27:31,511 --> 04:27:31,761 are all referencing our 7411 04:27:32,211 --> 04:27:32,461 challenges we're trying to kind 7412 04:27:32,877 --> 04:27:33,127 of work through 7413 04:27:37,477 --> 04:27:37,727 so we'll hit that and then s 7414 04:27:38,244 --> 04:27:38,494 strictly speaking to the 7415 04:27:40,477 --> 04:27:40,727 presentation just as a way of 7416 04:27:43,811 --> 04:27:44,061 kind of historical perspective 7417 04:27:47,511 --> 04:27:47,761 in 2019 the legislature 7418 04:27:51,511 --> 04:27:51,761 passed AB309 that enabled the 7419 04:27:53,777 --> 04:27:54,027 board to move forward with the 7420 04:27:54,377 --> 04:27:54,627 increase on the sales and use 7421 04:27:57,744 --> 04:27:57,994 tax and they did that by one 7422 04:27:59,944 --> 04:28:00,194 quarter of cent for certain 7423 04:28:00,477 --> 04:28:00,727 programs 7424 04:28:03,511 --> 04:28:03,761 they adopted that first 7425 04:28:05,711 --> 04:28:05,961 ordinance in August it was 7426 04:28:07,744 --> 04:28:07,994 effective in January of 2020 and 7427 04:28:10,011 --> 04:28:10,261 then they imposed a sunset in 7428 04:28:13,744 --> 04:28:13,994 June30th of 2021 in April of 7429 04:28:15,777 --> 04:28:16,027 21 the board removed that sunset 7430 04:28:18,044 --> 04:28:18,294 and making it permanent. it 7431 04:28:19,777 --> 04:28:20,027 was very specific to certain 7432 04:28:21,744 --> 04:28:21,994 categories so those 7433 04:28:23,511 --> 04:28:23,761 categories included homelessness 7434 04:28:24,477 --> 04:28:24,727 workforce initiatives truancy 7435 04:28:25,877 --> 04:28:26,127 and then prek education 7436 04:28:30,177 --> 04:28:30,427 for Fy26 this totaled 7437 04:28:34,177 --> 04:28:34,427 about80,859 $1000 and then some 7438 04:28:36,211 --> 04:28:36,461 other miscellaneous revenues at 7439 04:28:36,877 --> 04:28:37,127 about48,000 7440 04:28:39,711 --> 04:28:39,961 we will be finalizing that 7441 04:28:41,977 --> 04:28:42,227 report later this year once 7442 04:28:44,077 --> 04:28:44,327 all the sea tax revenues are 7443 04:28:44,644 --> 04:28:44,894 reconciled 7444 04:28:48,044 --> 04:28:48,294 a little bit about this 7445 04:28:50,444 --> 04:28:50,694 though in terms of AB309 7446 04:28:50,977 --> 04:28:51,227 first 7447 04:28:54,277 --> 04:28:54,527 credit and thanks to the 7448 04:28:56,244 --> 04:28:56,494 legislature for creating this 7449 04:28:58,277 --> 04:28:58,527 enabling language cause I don't 7450 04:28:59,511 --> 04:28:59,761 think you guys had a crystal 7451 04:29:01,744 --> 04:29:01,994 ball for what was coming but 7452 04:29:03,877 --> 04:29:04,127 when that was passed and we 7453 04:29:04,444 --> 04:29:04,694 moved forward 7454 04:29:06,244 --> 04:29:06,494 and you'll hear me reference 7455 04:29:08,244 --> 04:29:08,494 this a couple times when we deal 7456 04:29:10,011 --> 04:29:10,261 with social services where we 7457 04:29:12,011 --> 04:29:12,261 deal with human services funding 7458 04:29:14,011 --> 04:29:14,261 I'm preaching to the choir on 7459 04:29:17,511 --> 04:29:17,761 the federal funding mechanisms 7460 04:29:19,777 --> 04:29:20,027 we use and what that comes with 7461 04:29:22,044 --> 04:29:22,294 as as we're experiencing now 7462 04:29:24,044 --> 04:29:24,294 we're anticipating rule changes 7463 04:29:26,077 --> 04:29:26,327 we're constantly reporting on 7464 04:29:27,777 --> 04:29:28,027 that and when you come to 7465 04:29:28,311 --> 04:29:28,561 programmatic setup and you come 7466 04:29:31,744 --> 04:29:31,994 into emergencies it might 7467 04:29:33,511 --> 04:29:33,761 becomes much harder with the 7468 04:29:34,177 --> 04:29:34,427 federal funding but on 7469 04:29:35,677 --> 04:29:35,927 this slide that you're looking 7470 04:29:36,377 --> 04:29:36,627 at 7471 04:29:39,477 --> 04:29:39,727 what I really was trying to show 7472 04:29:40,244 --> 04:29:40,494 and that's why I kind of talked 7473 04:29:42,011 --> 04:29:42,261 about 2019 and why you might 7474 04:29:43,777 --> 04:29:44,027 have had a crystal ball or you 7475 04:29:46,011 --> 04:29:46,261 might not have but it was life 7476 04:29:49,511 --> 04:29:49,761 saving as we entered into covid 7477 04:29:52,044 --> 04:29:52,294 if you will recall we had 7478 04:29:53,777 --> 04:29:54,027 theARS Act which was the initial 7479 04:29:56,011 --> 04:29:56,261 tranche of federal funding and 7480 04:29:57,777 --> 04:29:58,027 then if you remember there was a 7481 04:29:58,611 --> 04:29:58,861 gap between cares andarpa 7482 04:30:02,511 --> 04:30:02,761 we set up a lot of emergency 7483 04:30:05,511 --> 04:30:05,761 programs and cares this AB309 7484 04:30:07,511 --> 04:30:07,761 funding actually served a very 7485 04:30:09,477 --> 04:30:09,727 vital purpose when we were 7486 04:30:10,311 --> 04:30:10,561 funding that gap and then when 7487 04:30:11,744 --> 04:30:11,994 you look at kind of the overall 7488 04:30:14,511 --> 04:30:14,761 expenditures going from 20 to 26 7489 04:30:16,277 --> 04:30:16,527 what you'll see is with the 7490 04:30:19,744 --> 04:30:19,994 infusion of that ArRA funding 7491 04:30:21,511 --> 04:30:21,761 our revenues actually went up 7492 04:30:23,511 --> 04:30:23,761 which is your blue bar and then 7493 04:30:24,177 --> 04:30:24,427 you can kind of see what's 7494 04:30:27,511 --> 04:30:27,761 happened in 24,25 and 26 we're 7495 04:30:28,211 --> 04:30:28,461 getting to the point now where 7496 04:30:29,677 --> 04:30:29,927 we're actually expending more 7497 04:30:30,344 --> 04:30:30,594 than we're bringing 7498 04:30:32,244 --> 04:30:32,494 in in relationship to the 7499 04:30:33,644 --> 04:30:33,894 programs that you're going to 7500 04:30:34,311 --> 04:30:34,561 hear about here shortly 7501 04:30:37,977 --> 04:30:38,227 these programs we kind of 7502 04:30:40,011 --> 04:30:40,261 made a commitment when we first 7503 04:30:41,777 --> 04:30:42,027 entered into this space and also 7504 04:30:42,511 --> 04:30:42,761 with our federal funding that we 7505 04:30:43,777 --> 04:30:44,027 really didn't want to create 7506 04:30:44,411 --> 04:30:44,661 things that we couldn't sustain 7507 04:30:47,744 --> 04:30:47,994 I think you're going to see 7508 04:30:49,477 --> 04:30:49,727 that we've had quite a few 7509 04:30:51,511 --> 04:30:51,761 successes around the use of 7510 04:30:54,011 --> 04:30:54,261 those funds from either a 7511 04:30:55,744 --> 04:30:55,994 divergent component or to a 7512 04:30:56,344 --> 04:30:56,594 direct service component 7513 04:30:59,477 --> 04:30:59,727 but I do want to talk about the 7514 04:31:01,744 --> 04:31:01,994 fact that moving forward as we 7515 04:31:03,777 --> 04:31:04,027 watch the economics as we watch 7516 04:31:05,511 --> 04:31:05,761 what's happening in terms of 7517 04:31:07,777 --> 04:31:08,027 things and changes this 7518 04:31:09,777 --> 04:31:10,027 funding remains critical to 7519 04:31:11,711 --> 04:31:11,961 serving human beings I think 7520 04:31:12,311 --> 04:31:12,561 those of you that know me this 7521 04:31:16,011 --> 04:31:16,261 is a passion for me we are 7522 04:31:17,511 --> 04:31:17,761 very invested in this we 7523 04:31:18,311 --> 04:31:18,561 recognize the county's 7524 04:31:21,511 --> 04:31:21,761 responsibility in serving our 7525 04:31:22,144 --> 04:31:22,394 most vulnerable adults and youth 7526 04:31:25,744 --> 04:31:25,994 and this has just been a 7527 04:31:27,744 --> 04:31:27,994 critical mechanism for all of us 7528 04:31:29,477 --> 04:31:29,727 we'll get into some of the 7529 04:31:30,277 --> 04:31:30,527 programs I'm gonna hand it over 7530 04:31:32,044 --> 04:31:32,294 to Jamie Sorenson our social 7531 04:31:33,777 --> 04:31:34,027 services director and I'm gonna 7532 04:31:37,511 --> 04:31:37,761 have him walk through the 7533 04:31:39,777 --> 04:31:40,027 category and the differentiating 7534 04:31:41,477 --> 04:31:41,727 programs and then we certainly 7535 04:31:42,111 --> 04:31:42,361 will be answering questions as 7536 04:31:42,811 --> 04:31:43,061 we move forward so I'll hand it 7537 04:31:43,477 --> 04:31:43,727 over to you Jamie. 7538 04:31:49,511 --> 04:31:49,761 good afternoon chairirneal and 7539 04:31:51,511 --> 04:31:51,761 committee membersjamie Sorenson 7540 04:31:53,511 --> 04:31:53,761 and I'm gonna talk a little 7541 04:31:55,477 --> 04:31:55,727 bit about some of the 7542 04:31:57,744 --> 04:31:57,994 programs and services funded by 7543 04:32:00,277 --> 04:32:00,527 AB309 and I'll start with 7544 04:32:05,511 --> 04:32:05,761 slide number4 looking at 7545 04:32:06,277 --> 04:32:06,527 emergency shelter and bridge 7546 04:32:10,011 --> 04:32:10,261 housing we talk about our 7547 04:32:11,544 --> 04:32:11,794 homelessness services generally 7548 04:32:13,744 --> 04:32:13,994 in a staircase model it begins 7549 04:32:15,711 --> 04:32:15,961 with outreach for those who are 7550 04:32:18,244 --> 04:32:18,494 experiencing unsheltered 7551 04:32:20,011 --> 04:32:20,261 homelessness all the way up to 7552 04:32:22,044 --> 04:32:22,294 renting an apartment and 7553 04:32:24,011 --> 04:32:24,261 owning a home and so people can 7554 04:32:25,744 --> 04:32:25,994 enter at anywhere in that 7555 04:32:27,511 --> 04:32:27,761 staircase model of housing 7556 04:32:30,011 --> 04:32:30,261 services we know that from 7557 04:32:31,777 --> 04:32:32,027 the last pick count 7558 04:32:34,011 --> 04:32:34,261 January2nin,2026 that there 7559 04:32:36,311 --> 04:32:36,561 were43% of the people 7560 04:32:38,377 --> 04:32:38,627 experiencing homelessness in 7561 04:32:39,044 --> 04:32:39,294 sheltered homelessness. 7562 04:32:42,044 --> 04:32:42,294 and we believe that that's 7563 04:32:43,744 --> 04:32:43,994 because of clark County's 7564 04:32:46,244 --> 04:32:46,494 investment in shelter beds in 7565 04:32:47,977 --> 04:32:48,227 the community we have 7566 04:32:50,244 --> 04:32:50,494 noncongregate shelters we have 9 7567 04:32:51,977 --> 04:32:52,227 of those we also have a 7568 04:32:54,344 --> 04:32:54,594 navigation center in total 7569 04:32:56,011 --> 04:32:56,261 with the navigation center and 7570 04:32:58,044 --> 04:32:58,294 the noncongregate shelters we've 7571 04:33:03,977 --> 04:33:04,227 got1729 beds and in Fy26 the 7572 04:33:04,611 --> 04:33:04,861 noncongregate shelters and 7573 04:33:08,077 --> 04:33:08,327 navigationenter served7,781 7574 04:33:08,677 --> 04:33:08,927 people. 7575 04:33:11,977 --> 04:33:12,227 also we have congregate shelters 7576 04:33:14,211 --> 04:33:14,461 we have uh5 of those3 of those 7577 04:33:20,011 --> 04:33:20,261 are funded by AB309 and in Fy 7578 04:33:24,011 --> 04:33:24,261 27 for those noncongregate 7579 04:33:27,477 --> 04:33:27,727 shelters we have beds daily 7580 04:33:28,311 --> 04:33:28,561 for657 individuals 7581 04:33:31,977 --> 04:33:32,227 combined in the community 7582 04:33:33,811 --> 04:33:34,061 with all the different levels of 7583 04:33:36,111 --> 04:33:36,361 beds that we have for people we 7584 04:33:36,777 --> 04:33:37,027 have over 9000 7585 04:33:39,744 --> 04:33:39,994 and that includes navigation and 7586 04:33:42,011 --> 04:33:42,261 emergency shelters permanent 7587 04:33:44,244 --> 04:33:44,494 supportive housing other 7588 04:33:45,644 --> 04:33:45,894 permanent housing and rapid re 7589 04:33:54,044 --> 04:33:54,294 In terms of the percentages 7590 04:33:55,777 --> 04:33:56,027 of different types of beds that 7591 04:33:56,511 --> 04:33:56,761 we have available in the 7592 04:33:59,511 --> 04:33:59,761 community about39% of our beds 7593 04:34:01,777 --> 04:34:02,027 are emergency shelter 7594 04:34:03,511 --> 04:34:03,761 permanent support of housing 7595 04:34:05,511 --> 04:34:05,761 represents 22% of the bed's 7596 04:34:07,811 --> 04:34:08,061 rapid rehousing 20% other 7597 04:34:09,777 --> 04:34:10,027 permanent housing11% in 7598 04:34:10,211 --> 04:34:10,461 transitional housing7%. 7599 04:34:14,277 --> 04:34:14,527 and the p pick count this 7600 04:34:18,044 --> 04:34:18,294 year we did see a12% increase in 7601 04:34:19,777 --> 04:34:20,027 people experiencing homelessness 7602 04:34:23,477 --> 04:34:23,727 again as I mentioned uh43% of 7603 04:34:24,511 --> 04:34:24,761 those people were in shelter 7604 04:34:25,977 --> 04:34:26,227 homelessness we saw the 7605 04:34:28,011 --> 04:34:28,261 highest proportion of 7606 04:34:29,977 --> 04:34:30,227 individuals between the ages of 7607 04:34:32,244 --> 04:34:32,494 ir5 and44 as the population 7608 04:34:34,211 --> 04:34:34,461 experiencing homelessness and 7609 04:34:36,544 --> 04:34:36,794 they they represent 26% in 7610 04:34:37,144 --> 04:34:37,394 terms of that age group 7611 04:34:45,944 --> 04:34:46,194 we also in terms of 7612 04:34:49,511 --> 04:34:49,761 trying to use data to understand 7613 04:34:50,177 --> 04:34:50,427 what's happening in the 7614 04:34:51,744 --> 04:34:51,994 community and the impact of the 7615 04:34:53,677 --> 04:34:53,927 services we're offering in 7616 04:34:54,211 --> 04:34:54,461 addition to pick count 7617 04:34:57,677 --> 04:34:57,927 we usehMIs data and we use 7618 04:34:59,511 --> 04:34:59,761 outreach data and so we can see 7619 04:35:02,211 --> 04:35:02,461 in our HMIS data that our 7620 04:35:05,777 --> 04:35:06,027 system capacity in beds has 7621 04:35:07,477 --> 04:35:07,727 really expanded substantially 7622 04:35:09,977 --> 04:35:10,227 since 2016 we went from5,000 7623 04:35:13,744 --> 04:35:13,994 beds in 2016 to over 90 in 2020 7624 04:35:14,411 --> 04:35:14,661 um6 7625 04:35:18,011 --> 04:35:18,261 we've also seen households 7626 04:35:19,977 --> 04:35:20,227 served grow substantially since 7627 04:35:23,777 --> 04:35:24,027 2018 we've seen an82% increase 7628 04:35:24,444 --> 04:35:24,694 in the number of households we 7629 04:35:27,744 --> 04:35:27,994 serve. we went from serving8,841 7630 04:35:31,744 --> 04:35:31,994 to in 2025 serving16,101 7631 04:35:33,511 --> 04:35:33,761 households indicating broader 7632 04:35:35,477 --> 04:35:35,727 system reach and identification 7633 04:35:36,177 --> 04:35:36,427 of need for people in the 7634 04:35:36,744 --> 04:35:36,994 community 7635 04:35:38,011 --> 04:35:38,261 averageverage length of 7636 04:35:39,977 --> 04:35:40,227 homelessness has improved 7637 04:35:41,977 --> 04:35:42,227 meaningfully from176 days in 7638 04:35:45,744 --> 04:35:45,994 2020 to105 days in 2024 7639 04:35:46,244 --> 04:35:46,494 suggesting faster movement 7640 04:35:48,277 --> 04:35:48,527 through the system once 7641 04:35:51,511 --> 04:35:51,761 enrolled in our services also we 7642 04:35:53,777 --> 04:35:54,027 saw the return rate remaining 7643 04:35:55,511 --> 04:35:55,761 very low the return rate to 7644 04:35:57,744 --> 04:35:57,994 homelessness roughly about11% 7645 04:35:58,377 --> 04:35:58,627 and that's been holding steady 7646 04:35:59,044 --> 04:35:59,294 year over year. 7647 04:36:02,544 --> 04:36:02,794 exits to permanent housing 7648 04:36:04,044 --> 04:36:04,294 have fallen and that is a a 7649 04:36:06,011 --> 04:36:06,261 really big area of focus to us 7650 04:36:07,777 --> 04:36:08,027 creating an exit pathways for 7651 04:36:08,477 --> 04:36:08,727 people once they do enter our 7652 04:36:09,144 --> 04:36:09,394 system. 7653 04:36:13,744 --> 04:36:13,994 as we look at the programs 7654 04:36:15,744 --> 04:36:15,994 funded by AB309 I also just want 7655 04:36:16,444 --> 04:36:16,694 to note that we have really 7656 04:36:18,011 --> 04:36:18,261 tried to create a broad 7657 04:36:19,977 --> 04:36:20,227 continuum of services connected 7658 04:36:21,477 --> 04:36:21,727 services that people can 7659 04:36:23,477 --> 04:36:23,727 navigate through our 7660 04:36:24,444 --> 04:36:24,694 portfolio of resources at Clark 7661 04:36:26,244 --> 04:36:26,494 County Socialervices so I just 7662 04:36:28,244 --> 04:36:28,494 want to also highlight a 7663 04:36:31,511 --> 04:36:31,761 service that's outside of AB301 7664 04:36:33,777 --> 04:36:34,027 AB309 and that's our the 7665 04:36:34,311 --> 04:36:34,561 eviction diversion program in 7666 04:36:34,977 --> 04:36:35,227 the community. 7667 04:36:37,977 --> 04:36:38,227 and we think getting upstream 7668 04:36:39,977 --> 04:36:40,227 and prevention is very important 7669 04:36:41,511 --> 04:36:41,761 and we know that this program 7670 04:36:43,477 --> 04:36:43,727 has had an impact from fiscal 7671 04:36:46,044 --> 04:36:46,294 year 2023 to fiscal year 2024 we 7672 04:36:48,011 --> 04:36:48,261 saw a 10 cent decrease in 7673 04:36:51,744 --> 04:36:51,994 evictions and from 24 to 25 we 7674 04:36:54,244 --> 04:36:54,494 saw a5% decrease and so keeping 7675 04:36:56,011 --> 04:36:56,261 people in their homes and 7676 04:36:56,711 --> 04:36:56,961 communities in the first place 7677 04:36:57,377 --> 04:36:57,627 is a very important strategy. 7678 04:37:00,811 --> 04:37:01,061 going on to slide five 7679 04:37:07,511 --> 04:37:07,761 we have a transitional and rapid 7680 04:37:08,177 --> 04:37:08,427 rehousing in the community 7681 04:37:11,711 --> 04:37:11,961 transitional housing is 7682 04:37:13,744 --> 04:37:13,994 housing and supportive services 7683 04:37:15,711 --> 04:37:15,961 for people for up to 24 months 7684 04:37:17,777 --> 04:37:18,027 is to move people to permanent 7685 04:37:20,011 --> 04:37:20,261 housing and it is focused on 7686 04:37:21,777 --> 04:37:22,027 treatment services and also 7687 04:37:24,277 --> 04:37:24,527 readiness for housing and we 7688 04:37:25,977 --> 04:37:26,227 have 25 projects in the 7689 04:37:28,244 --> 04:37:28,494 community with a total of728 7690 04:37:30,244 --> 04:37:30,494 beds those are not all funded 7691 04:37:32,277 --> 04:37:32,527 by AB309 with a lot of our 7692 04:37:33,677 --> 04:37:33,927 programs we use braided funding 7693 04:37:37,477 --> 04:37:37,727 we also have rapid rehousing 7694 04:37:38,444 --> 04:37:38,694 which is a more expeditious 7695 04:37:39,944 --> 04:37:40,194 movement toward permanent 7696 04:37:42,144 --> 04:37:42,394 housing it's a shorter term 7697 04:37:44,211 --> 04:37:44,461 program that provides short term 7698 04:37:45,711 --> 04:37:45,961 rental assistance and case 7699 04:37:47,711 --> 04:37:47,961 management services in the 7700 04:37:49,711 --> 04:37:49,961 community we have40 7701 04:37:51,744 --> 04:37:51,994 projects1,872 beds and again not 7702 04:37:52,477 --> 04:37:52,727 all funded by AB309. 7703 04:37:55,711 --> 04:37:55,961 and then permanent support of 7704 04:37:57,477 --> 04:37:57,727 housing is a term that you hear 7705 04:37:59,477 --> 04:37:59,727 a lot in our work and it 7706 04:38:00,411 --> 04:38:00,661 combines affordable rental 7707 04:38:02,177 --> 04:38:02,427 housing with volunteering and 7708 04:38:04,177 --> 04:38:04,427 flexible support services 7709 04:38:05,711 --> 04:38:05,961 typically for individuals and 7710 04:38:07,477 --> 04:38:07,727 families facing chronic 7711 04:38:09,944 --> 04:38:10,194 homelessness or really high 7712 04:38:11,811 --> 04:38:12,061 acuity in terms of behaviors and 7713 04:38:12,477 --> 04:38:12,727 barriers 7714 04:38:17,711 --> 04:38:17,961 carere teams are really 7715 04:38:19,744 --> 04:38:19,994 important component of our 7716 04:38:21,511 --> 04:38:21,761 service continuum they provide 7717 04:38:23,511 --> 04:38:23,761 coordinated outreach and case 7718 04:38:25,511 --> 04:38:25,761 management they can also at 7719 04:38:27,777 --> 04:38:28,027 times include law enforcement 7720 04:38:28,377 --> 04:38:28,627 behavioral health and crisis 7721 04:38:31,511 --> 04:38:31,761 stabilization specialists 7722 04:38:32,477 --> 04:38:32,727 it's a very personcented style 7723 04:38:34,211 --> 04:38:34,461 of outreach and case management 7724 04:38:37,744 --> 04:38:37,994 and it was a 9.7 million 7725 04:38:41,511 --> 04:38:41,761 investment it is a 9.79.7 7726 04:38:43,877 --> 04:38:44,127 million investment in Fy27. 7727 04:38:44,444 --> 04:38:44,694 we served se 7728 04:38:48,211 --> 04:38:48,461 900 individuals in Fy26. we 7729 04:38:50,211 --> 04:38:50,461 currently have6 Clark County 7730 04:38:52,244 --> 04:38:52,494 care teams and they all have a 7731 04:38:54,244 --> 04:38:54,494 little bit of a different focus 7732 04:38:56,011 --> 04:38:56,261 in terms of the target 7733 04:38:57,777 --> 04:38:58,027 population they serve and the 7734 04:38:59,777 --> 04:39:00,027 goals that they're trying to 7735 04:39:00,377 --> 04:39:00,627 reach and outcomes are're trying 7736 04:39:01,944 --> 04:39:02,194 to reach with those target 7737 04:39:02,511 --> 04:39:02,761 populations. 7738 04:39:07,744 --> 04:39:07,994 hospital to home is a 7739 04:39:08,211 --> 04:39:08,461 program that we're really proud 7740 04:39:12,411 --> 04:39:12,661 of in the community and Fy26 7741 04:39:15,777 --> 04:39:16,027 they served700 individuals 7742 04:39:18,011 --> 04:39:18,261 it's a program that helps older 7743 04:39:19,777 --> 04:39:20,027 adults and individuals with 7744 04:39:21,744 --> 04:39:21,994 chronic illness, memory loss or 7745 04:39:23,977 --> 04:39:24,227 disabilities transition safely 7746 04:39:25,744 --> 04:39:25,994 from a hospital or rehab bed 7747 04:39:27,744 --> 04:39:27,994 back to their homes and the 7748 04:39:29,511 --> 04:39:29,761 program works directly with 7749 04:39:30,211 --> 04:39:30,461 their caregivers and community 7750 04:39:32,477 --> 04:39:32,727 partners to do three primary 7751 04:39:33,077 --> 04:39:33,327 things ensure continu 7752 04:39:36,211 --> 04:39:36,461 ity of care, reduce stress on 7753 04:39:37,744 --> 04:39:37,994 the individual and their 7754 04:39:39,711 --> 04:39:39,961 caregivers and also improved 7755 04:39:41,711 --> 04:39:41,961 health outcomes the program 7756 04:39:43,511 --> 04:39:43,761 offers care coordination, crisis 7757 04:39:44,311 --> 04:39:44,561 intervention respite coaching 7758 04:39:47,511 --> 04:39:47,761 resource navigation a very low 7759 04:39:50,277 --> 04:39:50,527 readmission rate it's below1.2% 7760 04:39:51,677 --> 04:39:51,927 for people who are able to 7761 04:39:52,311 --> 04:39:52,561 access this 7762 04:39:58,211 --> 04:39:58,461 Cris stabilizationentcSC it's a 7763 04:40:02,244 --> 04:40:02,494 ive million dollar investment 7764 04:40:05,511 --> 04:40:05,761 for Fy27. it provides behavioral 7765 04:40:07,511 --> 04:40:07,761 mental health services designed 7766 04:40:09,744 --> 04:40:09,994 to deescalate or stabilize 7767 04:40:11,477 --> 04:40:11,727 the behavioral health crisis 7768 04:40:13,511 --> 04:40:13,761 when appropriate avoid admission 7769 04:40:14,444 --> 04:40:14,694 to another inpatient mental 7770 04:40:15,011 --> 04:40:15,261 health facility or hospital 7771 04:40:17,777 --> 04:40:18,027 and also connects patients with 7772 04:40:20,277 --> 04:40:20,527 providers for ongoing care. 7773 04:40:24,011 --> 04:40:24,261 date the program has served3,310 7774 04:40:26,311 --> 04:40:26,561 individuals it's about 15 7775 04:40:28,011 --> 04:40:28,261 individuals a day that are 7776 04:40:28,577 --> 04:40:28,827 accessing the crisis 7777 04:40:30,044 --> 04:40:30,294 stabilizationent provides 7778 04:40:31,811 --> 04:40:32,061 comprehensive assessment they 7779 04:40:33,511 --> 04:40:33,761 develop a treatment plan they do 7780 04:40:36,044 --> 04:40:36,294 trauma informed care it's a 7781 04:40:38,044 --> 04:40:38,294 recovery orientation meaning 7782 04:40:40,311 --> 04:40:40,561 that it's not designed for 7783 04:40:43,511 --> 04:40:43,761 episodic recurring admissions 7784 04:40:44,377 --> 04:40:44,627 they really tried to get people 7785 04:40:45,077 --> 04:40:45,327 into a recovery 7786 04:40:46,677 --> 04:40:46,927 s t re am that's longer term 7787 04:40:53,744 --> 04:40:53,994 heat mitigation1.2 million 7788 04:40:54,311 --> 04:40:54,561 allocation for fy 27 7789 04:40:57,977 --> 04:40:58,227 throughout the valley we have44 7790 04:41:01,977 --> 04:41:02,227 cooling stations we also 7791 04:41:03,777 --> 04:41:04,027 in some of those cooling 7792 04:41:05,977 --> 04:41:06,227 stations,5 of them allow for 7793 04:41:09,744 --> 04:41:09,994 pets and so activation used 7794 04:41:11,744 --> 04:41:11,994 to just be when the national 7795 04:41:13,744 --> 04:41:13,994 weatheratherervice issued a heat 7796 04:41:15,777 --> 04:41:16,027 warning we worked with the 7797 04:41:17,744 --> 04:41:17,994 coroner's office to really look 7798 04:41:19,511 --> 04:41:19,761 at what temperatures people 7799 04:41:20,277 --> 04:41:20,527 began to exhibit heat related 7800 04:41:22,277 --> 04:41:22,527 stress and symptoms we also 7801 04:41:24,377 --> 04:41:24,627 looked at what temperatures 7802 04:41:24,911 --> 04:41:25,161 people were dying 7803 04:41:28,311 --> 04:41:28,561 and determined that around105 7804 04:41:30,277 --> 04:41:30,527 degrees is when people really 7805 04:41:32,011 --> 04:41:32,261 start to get in trouble and so 7806 04:41:34,244 --> 04:41:34,494 we lowered the activation to105 7807 04:41:34,911 --> 04:41:35,161 degrees which has resulted 7808 04:41:38,277 --> 04:41:38,527 in many more days of the cooling 7809 04:41:40,044 --> 04:41:40,294 stations being activated so 7810 04:41:42,277 --> 04:41:42,527 between March19th and August 7811 04:41:44,277 --> 04:41:44,527 21st of this year the cooling 7812 04:41:46,277 --> 04:41:46,527 stations have been activated60 7813 04:41:48,077 --> 04:41:48,327 days and they're obviously 7814 04:41:48,677 --> 04:41:48,927 activated today. 7815 04:41:52,277 --> 04:41:52,527 and for the record Kevin 7816 04:41:54,011 --> 04:41:54,261 Schiller county manager, I just 7817 04:41:55,677 --> 04:41:55,927 wanted to add two points on this 7818 04:41:56,344 --> 04:41:56,594 slide 7819 04:41:59,477 --> 04:41:59,727 has he talked about hospital 7820 04:42:01,511 --> 04:42:01,761 to home one of the key 7821 04:42:03,511 --> 04:42:03,761 components of that as you guys 7822 04:42:04,144 --> 04:42:04,394 entered the session and you're 7823 04:42:06,244 --> 04:42:06,494 dealing with revenue and budgets 7824 04:42:08,311 --> 04:42:08,561 that was really created 7825 04:42:09,744 --> 04:42:09,994 around the fact that we would 7826 04:42:11,744 --> 04:42:11,994 have people staying in longterm 7827 04:42:13,777 --> 04:42:14,027 hospitalization stays based on 7828 04:42:15,744 --> 04:42:15,994 the ability to not have either 7829 04:42:17,777 --> 04:42:18,027 adult daycare, homeme 7830 04:42:19,511 --> 04:42:19,761 improvements and or caregiving 7831 04:42:21,744 --> 04:42:21,994 around that case management so 7832 04:42:23,877 --> 04:42:24,127 the cost of medicaid the 7833 04:42:24,644 --> 04:42:24,894 uncovered costs all of those 7834 04:42:25,677 --> 04:42:25,927 pieces really has had a dramatic 7835 04:42:29,511 --> 04:42:29,761 impact in terms of that 7836 04:42:30,244 --> 04:42:30,494 population and then the other 7837 04:42:32,011 --> 04:42:32,261 one I wanted to highlight for 7838 04:42:34,011 --> 04:42:34,261 Charneal cause the last time 7839 04:42:36,244 --> 04:42:36,494 I was before you we had talked 7840 04:42:37,744 --> 04:42:37,994 about kind of the 7841 04:42:41,744 --> 04:42:41,994 disproportionate placement 7842 04:42:43,511 --> 04:42:43,761 and or interaction in the 7843 04:42:44,277 --> 04:42:44,527 homeless category related to 7844 04:42:46,244 --> 04:42:46,494 African Americanan population 7845 04:42:48,011 --> 04:42:48,261 and one of the things that I 7846 04:42:50,277 --> 04:42:50,527 wanted to andjamie can expand 7847 04:42:52,277 --> 04:42:52,527 on this but the disproportionate 7848 04:42:54,011 --> 04:42:54,261 percentage I think is somewhere 7849 04:42:55,677 --> 04:42:55,927 around47% when 7850 04:42:57,211 --> 04:42:57,461 you look at the population 7851 04:43:00,011 --> 04:43:00,261 when we're tracking our services 7852 04:43:01,744 --> 04:43:01,994 in terms of who we're intaking 7853 04:43:02,344 --> 04:43:02,594 and who we're providing those 7854 04:43:06,011 --> 04:43:06,261 services to it's about47% or 7855 04:43:07,811 --> 04:43:08,061 close somewhere in that range so 7856 04:43:09,511 --> 04:43:09,761 we are trying to kind of monitor 7857 04:43:12,011 --> 04:43:12,261 that I think the other piece 7858 04:43:13,777 --> 04:43:14,027 when you start getting into the 7859 04:43:15,477 --> 04:43:15,727 homelessness discussion 7860 04:43:18,244 --> 04:43:18,494 obviously the issue of serving 7861 04:43:19,777 --> 04:43:20,027 every single person and looking 7862 04:43:21,744 --> 04:43:21,994 at your capacity marks is 7863 04:43:25,477 --> 04:43:25,727 obviously a key issue any of 7864 04:43:26,211 --> 04:43:26,461 these programs and then I was 7865 04:43:26,877 --> 04:43:27,127 just gonna highlight campus 7866 04:43:27,477 --> 04:43:27,727 for 7867 04:43:30,044 --> 04:43:30,294 hope the other pieces that are 7868 04:43:31,511 --> 04:43:31,761 coming online you're going to 7869 04:43:32,144 --> 04:43:32,394 have additional inventory 7870 04:43:35,511 --> 04:43:35,761 so to speak in terms of capacity 7871 04:43:37,511 --> 04:43:37,761 and so when you look at some of 7872 04:43:38,277 --> 04:43:38,527 these numbers that Mr. Soreren 7873 04:43:40,011 --> 04:43:40,261 is highlighting related to say 7874 04:43:41,511 --> 04:43:41,761 noncongregate care and 7875 04:43:42,311 --> 04:43:42,561 transitional housing in those 7876 04:43:44,244 --> 04:43:44,494 pieces that program is really 7877 04:43:45,744 --> 04:43:45,994 going to be kind of a tier two 7878 04:43:47,511 --> 04:43:47,761 level program so they've come in 7879 04:43:48,244 --> 04:43:48,494 through our system and then move 7880 04:43:51,511 --> 04:43:51,761 into that that's gonna also free 7881 04:43:52,211 --> 04:43:52,461 up and I'm just using simple 7882 04:43:55,511 --> 04:43:55,761 math 900 different beds that we 7883 04:43:56,277 --> 04:43:56,527 currently have in that structure 7884 04:43:58,044 --> 04:43:58,294 so it will continue to move 7885 04:43:58,644 --> 04:43:58,894 forward but I did want to 7886 04:43:59,811 --> 04:44:00,061 highlight those two. 7887 04:44:01,844 --> 04:44:02,094 go ahead Jamie thanks Kevin 7888 04:44:02,411 --> 04:44:02,661 just 7889 04:44:05,511 --> 04:44:05,761 to expound a bit on black and 7890 04:44:07,777 --> 04:44:08,027 Africaneran individuals and how 7891 04:44:11,544 --> 04:44:11,794 they were recorded in the 7892 04:44:14,277 --> 04:44:14,527 2026 pick count42.7% of the 7893 04:44:16,011 --> 04:44:16,261 people experiencing homelessness 7894 04:44:18,411 --> 04:44:18,661 were categorized as black 7895 04:44:18,977 --> 04:44:19,227 or Africaner 7896 04:44:23,811 --> 04:44:24,061 and the disproportionate 7897 04:44:25,511 --> 04:44:25,761 overrepresentation is 7898 04:44:27,511 --> 04:44:27,761 substantial because that 7899 04:44:29,511 --> 04:44:29,761 community represents about4% of 7900 04:44:30,144 --> 04:44:30,394 the total population of Clark 7901 04:44:30,844 --> 04:44:31,094 County. 7902 04:44:34,277 --> 04:44:34,527 but in our service array it's a 7903 04:44:35,977 --> 04:44:36,227 community that's also served and 7904 04:44:39,511 --> 04:44:39,761 so they represent39% of ours 7905 04:44:41,511 --> 04:44:41,761 street outreach for unsheltered 7906 04:44:44,211 --> 04:44:44,461 people they represent4047% of 7907 04:44:47,744 --> 04:44:47,994 our crisis services47% of our 7908 04:44:49,711 --> 04:44:49,961 coordinated entry throughout the 7909 04:44:52,244 --> 04:44:52,494 valley and also48% of those who 7910 04:44:53,744 --> 04:44:53,994 are in permanent supportive 7911 04:44:54,311 --> 04:44:54,561 housing. 7912 04:45:00,011 --> 04:45:00,261 to continue on with heat 7913 04:45:01,744 --> 04:45:01,994 mitigation, I just want to also 7914 04:45:03,477 --> 04:45:03,727 highlight, you know oftentimes 7915 04:45:04,277 --> 04:45:04,527 people experiencing homelessness 7916 04:45:04,944 --> 04:45:05,194 aren't able to get to our 7917 04:45:05,477 --> 04:45:05,727 cooling stations. 7918 04:45:09,511 --> 04:45:09,761 and so we have been trying to 7919 04:45:11,477 --> 04:45:11,727 think of ways to get people out 7920 04:45:13,477 --> 04:45:13,727 to them where they are and so 7921 04:45:14,244 --> 04:45:14,494 we did an interlocal with the 7922 04:45:15,777 --> 04:45:16,027 southernnevada health district 7923 04:45:17,544 --> 04:45:17,794 to create a street medicine 7924 04:45:19,511 --> 04:45:19,761 team, a big part of their work 7925 04:45:22,044 --> 04:45:22,294 from May through September is 7926 04:45:24,244 --> 04:45:24,494 heat mitigation and so 7927 04:45:25,777 --> 04:45:26,027 through their services they're 7928 04:45:27,777 --> 04:45:28,027 going out to people in the 7929 04:45:28,411 --> 04:45:28,661 community who are experiencing 7930 04:45:30,044 --> 04:45:30,294 homelessness homelessness 7931 04:45:32,277 --> 04:45:32,527 they're doing preventative 7932 04:45:34,011 --> 04:45:34,261 and primary care but they're 7933 04:45:34,611 --> 04:45:34,861 doing vitals and triage wound 7934 04:45:39,511 --> 04:45:39,761 burn cu water electrolyte 7935 04:45:41,477 --> 04:45:41,727 packets sunscreen flip flops 7936 04:45:43,777 --> 04:45:44,027 umbrellas cooling towels shoes 7937 04:45:45,744 --> 04:45:45,994 and if necessary depending on 7938 04:45:47,511 --> 04:45:47,761 the condition that someone is in 7939 04:45:49,644 --> 04:45:49,894 they can administerivV's out in 7940 04:45:50,311 --> 04:45:50,561 the field for hydration. 7941 04:45:55,811 --> 04:45:56,061 and we are hoping to kind of 7942 04:45:57,477 --> 04:45:57,727 continue down that path and 7943 04:45:58,244 --> 04:45:58,494 think of ways to get people out 7944 04:46:01,511 --> 04:46:01,761 to the community where people 7945 04:46:03,744 --> 04:46:03,994 are during the summer months 7946 04:46:05,977 --> 04:46:06,227 I also want to highlight pets 7947 04:46:07,511 --> 04:46:07,761 we have a contract with the 7948 04:46:09,511 --> 04:46:09,761 Nevada Homeless alliance for the 7949 04:46:11,744 --> 04:46:11,994 pets assistance programme as 7950 04:46:13,511 --> 04:46:13,761 we know there's a number of 7951 04:46:15,477 --> 04:46:15,727 people experiencing homelessness 7952 04:46:18,244 --> 04:46:18,494 who do not want to go into 7953 04:46:20,044 --> 04:46:20,294 shelter because there's a lot 7954 04:46:20,711 --> 04:46:20,961 of shelters that won't accept 7955 04:46:21,344 --> 04:46:21,594 their pet. 7956 04:46:25,511 --> 04:46:25,761 and so we wanted to be able to 7957 04:46:26,211 --> 04:46:26,461 address that and remove that as 7958 04:46:28,344 --> 04:46:28,594 a barrier for people and so 7959 04:46:32,577 --> 04:46:32,827 the program can provide pet 7960 04:46:34,011 --> 04:46:34,261 deposit assistance it can 7961 04:46:36,211 --> 04:46:36,461 provide pet rent assistance, pet 7962 04:46:37,744 --> 04:46:37,994 medical assistance, 7963 04:46:39,977 --> 04:46:40,227 vaccinations, microchipping spay 7964 04:46:42,011 --> 04:46:42,261 neuter emergency shelter and 7965 04:46:42,677 --> 04:46:42,927 then also pet supply assistance. 7966 04:46:51,477 --> 04:46:51,727 chairnero I'm gonna give umjamie 7967 04:46:52,211 --> 04:46:52,461 just a minute to catch his 7968 04:46:53,977 --> 04:46:54,227 breath and I wanted to just 7969 04:46:55,511 --> 04:46:55,761 check in with you and see if you 7970 04:46:57,711 --> 04:46:57,961 would prefer to stop we've 7971 04:47:00,011 --> 04:47:00,261 divided this into categories 7972 04:47:03,511 --> 04:47:03,761 underapB we still say AB309 7973 04:47:05,511 --> 04:47:05,761 so that is the homelessness that 7974 04:47:06,244 --> 04:47:06,494 we have funded so if you prefer 7975 04:47:08,044 --> 04:47:08,294 if you we can stop for questions 7976 04:47:09,811 --> 04:47:10,061 if you'd like there are some 7977 04:47:11,977 --> 04:47:12,227 additional slides it's kind of 7978 04:47:13,777 --> 04:47:14,027 all related so we have our next 7979 04:47:14,477 --> 04:47:14,727 slides are talking about the 7980 04:47:16,177 --> 04:47:16,427 workforce things that we have 7981 04:47:16,777 --> 04:47:17,027 funded which 7982 04:47:19,477 --> 04:47:19,727 are helping this population and 7983 04:47:21,477 --> 04:47:21,727 then we have some outcomes in a 7984 04:47:22,244 --> 04:47:22,494 later slide, but I wanted to see 7985 04:47:23,744 --> 04:47:23,994 if you wanted to stop there 7986 04:47:24,511 --> 04:47:24,761 chair and if there were 7987 04:47:25,711 --> 04:47:25,961 questions thank you for that I 7988 04:47:28,011 --> 04:47:28,261 think we can open up for 7989 04:47:28,611 --> 04:47:28,861 questions. are there any 7990 04:47:29,177 --> 04:47:29,427 questions 7991 04:47:32,311 --> 04:47:32,561 no questions 7992 04:47:36,077 --> 04:47:36,327 so let's just start here 7993 04:47:39,644 --> 04:47:39,894 so under377D 7994 04:47:45,811 --> 04:47:46,061 although it's reference10377d130 7995 04:47:46,477 --> 04:47:46,727 list 7996 04:47:51,477 --> 04:47:51,727 the programs so are you guys not 7997 04:47:52,144 --> 04:47:52,394 doing anything in adult 7998 04:47:57,777 --> 04:47:58,027 Sureneal this is Joannajacobs 7999 04:47:59,977 --> 04:48:00,227 for the record I I will let 8000 04:48:02,011 --> 04:48:02,261 umjamie we want to go into the 8001 04:48:04,011 --> 04:48:04,261 workforce slide we can talk to 8002 04:48:06,011 --> 04:48:06,261 you about some of this is multi 8003 04:48:08,244 --> 04:48:08,494 layered as I noted so if you 8004 04:48:10,011 --> 04:48:10,261 want to go to the next slide we 8005 04:48:12,011 --> 04:48:12,261 can talk about what is funding 8006 04:48:13,511 --> 04:48:13,761 kind of our adult programming 8007 04:48:14,277 --> 04:48:14,527 well let me ask the two parts 8008 04:48:19,511 --> 04:48:19,761 then because in in377D130 it's 8009 04:48:20,611 --> 04:48:20,861 adult ed and then you guys 8010 04:48:21,177 --> 04:48:21,427 also have an 8011 04:48:25,511 --> 04:48:25,761 incentives for recruitment or 8012 04:48:27,511 --> 04:48:27,761 retention of licensed teachers 8013 04:48:28,211 --> 04:48:28,461 for high vacancy schools within 8014 04:48:28,877 --> 04:48:29,127 CcSd. 8015 04:48:33,744 --> 04:48:33,994 Cherneal Joannajacob for the 8016 04:48:36,011 --> 04:48:36,261 record no that is there is there 8017 04:48:37,744 --> 04:48:37,994 are categories in there we 8018 04:48:39,511 --> 04:48:39,761 prioritized some of the 8019 04:48:41,511 --> 04:48:41,761 categories in the presentation 8020 04:48:44,011 --> 04:48:44,261 today so that is on category F 8021 04:48:46,011 --> 04:48:46,261 and that is not currently a 8022 04:48:48,111 --> 04:48:48,361 category that has been funded 8023 04:48:48,777 --> 04:48:49,027 ever 8024 04:48:52,244 --> 04:48:52,494 to my knowledge joannajacobs for 8025 04:48:53,744 --> 04:48:53,994 the record to my knowledge 8026 04:48:56,277 --> 04:48:56,527 chairneal when this legislation 8027 04:48:59,511 --> 04:48:59,761 was originally passed we were in 8028 04:49:00,244 --> 04:49:00,494 discussion with the school 8029 04:49:03,477 --> 04:49:03,727 district but no that was not 8030 04:49:04,544 --> 04:49:04,794 funded ever. OK good to know. 8031 04:49:06,577 --> 04:49:06,827 I was hoping that 8032 04:49:07,777 --> 04:49:08,027 OK. 8033 04:49:09,911 --> 04:49:10,161 go to the next one 8034 04:49:13,477 --> 04:49:13,727 oh yeah 8035 04:49:14,344 --> 04:49:14,594 that be like ding 8036 04:49:17,611 --> 04:49:17,861 continue 8037 04:49:31,977 --> 04:49:32,227 So let me ask this before you 8038 04:49:33,511 --> 04:49:33,761 guys go into the slide on the 8039 04:49:36,077 --> 04:49:36,327 adult ed so also in your page 8040 04:49:36,744 --> 04:49:36,994 you listed 8041 04:49:41,711 --> 04:49:41,961 the 27 million it's not 27 8042 04:49:43,711 --> 04:49:43,961 million but4 million for 8043 04:49:45,744 --> 04:49:45,994 culinary wasn't there wasn't 8044 04:49:47,677 --> 04:49:47,927 there money expended 8045 04:49:50,344 --> 04:49:50,594 after 2019 where you helped 8046 04:49:50,877 --> 04:49:51,127 build a building? 8047 04:49:57,511 --> 04:49:57,761 er ne al Joannajacobs for the 8048 04:50:00,011 --> 04:50:00,261 record I am going to have to if 8049 04:50:01,744 --> 04:50:01,994 you give me one minute I'm gonna 8050 04:50:03,477 --> 04:50:03,727 go back into I have all the 8051 04:50:04,211 --> 04:50:04,461 reports we've done since this 8052 04:50:05,977 --> 04:50:06,227 has happened and I'll I'll go 8053 04:50:07,811 --> 04:50:08,061 back and look and see if there 8054 04:50:09,511 --> 04:50:09,761 was funding for the building out 8055 04:50:12,044 --> 04:50:12,294 of this funding stream the 8056 04:50:13,811 --> 04:50:14,061 program that we've highlighted 8057 04:50:15,744 --> 04:50:15,994 in our slides has been a program 8058 04:50:18,044 --> 04:50:18,294 that's a as partnership where 8059 04:50:19,777 --> 04:50:20,027 Clark County is paying the 8060 04:50:21,744 --> 04:50:21,994 through this funding tuition for 8061 04:50:23,677 --> 04:50:23,927 clients of social service to go 8062 04:50:24,344 --> 04:50:24,594 into the culinary 8063 04:50:26,477 --> 04:50:26,727 academy I'll let director 8064 04:50:28,011 --> 04:50:28,261 sorenson if you want to hear 8065 04:50:29,977 --> 04:50:30,227 about that and then I'll go back 8066 04:50:33,477 --> 04:50:33,727 and I will if I can verify that 8067 04:50:34,211 --> 04:50:34,461 and so I can answer your 8068 04:50:36,244 --> 04:50:36,494 question for the record 8069 04:50:37,977 --> 04:50:38,227 Kevinschiller county manager you 8070 04:50:40,244 --> 04:50:40,494 are correct we we funded a 8071 04:50:42,277 --> 04:50:42,527 building related to culinary at 8072 04:50:45,511 --> 04:50:45,761 the onset of the passage of that 8073 04:50:46,277 --> 04:50:46,527 funding. I don't have the amount 8074 04:50:47,977 --> 04:50:48,227 in hand but I can get it for 8075 04:50:49,744 --> 04:50:49,994 you. yeah cuz I thought I was 8076 04:50:50,344 --> 04:50:50,594 also listed as one of the 8077 04:50:54,111 --> 04:50:54,361 could be funded in the list 8078 04:50:57,744 --> 04:50:57,994 and I think I think the larger 8079 04:50:59,711 --> 04:50:59,961 question was since this is s 8080 04:51:01,744 --> 04:51:01,994 sales tax money right I don't 8081 04:51:03,477 --> 04:51:03,727 have anything against culinary. 8082 04:51:05,744 --> 04:51:05,994 why are we in particular only 8083 04:51:07,477 --> 04:51:07,727 focused on one particular group 8084 04:51:09,677 --> 04:51:09,927 and we're using tax dollars 8085 04:51:10,211 --> 04:51:10,461 twice 8086 04:51:11,677 --> 04:51:11,927 to do an effort 8087 04:51:15,811 --> 04:51:16,061 through that through the sales 8088 04:51:16,477 --> 04:51:16,727 tax 8089 04:51:20,011 --> 04:51:20,261 when no one other group is 8090 04:51:20,577 --> 04:51:20,827 spelled out and placed 8091 04:51:24,077 --> 04:51:24,327 as a union group 8092 04:51:25,644 --> 04:51:25,894 in the 8093 04:51:34,011 --> 04:51:34,261 was that a question that you 8094 04:51:37,811 --> 04:51:38,061 would like me to address I 8095 04:51:41,677 --> 04:51:41,927 I will tell you that 8096 04:51:44,244 --> 04:51:44,494 the point that you're trying to 8097 04:51:46,244 --> 04:51:46,494 make is that there that was a 8098 04:51:49,477 --> 04:51:49,727 broad category the cullon that 8099 04:51:50,444 --> 04:51:50,694 we did initial conversations 8100 04:51:52,011 --> 04:51:52,261 with the culinary and so that 8101 04:51:53,777 --> 04:51:54,027 one is the one that has been 8102 04:51:56,244 --> 04:51:56,494 funded we could certainly 8103 04:51:57,677 --> 04:51:57,927 take that back toclark County. 8104 04:51:58,577 --> 04:51:58,827 that feedback 8105 04:52:12,344 --> 04:52:12,594 jamie Sorenson the 8106 04:52:17,711 --> 04:52:17,961 culinary academy the first of 8107 04:52:19,711 --> 04:52:19,961 all the the 4 million is broken 8108 04:52:21,977 --> 04:52:22,227 up between the culinary academy 8109 04:52:23,977 --> 04:52:24,227 and the betterment programme 8110 04:52:25,644 --> 04:52:25,894 so it's an allocation that goes 8111 04:52:26,311 --> 04:52:26,561 to 8112 04:52:27,811 --> 04:52:28,061 to both but 8113 04:52:31,711 --> 04:52:31,961 culinary academy is designed to 8114 04:52:32,444 --> 04:52:32,694 serve unemployed and 8115 04:52:33,977 --> 04:52:34,227 underemployed lark County 8116 04:52:35,744 --> 04:52:35,994 residents from the lowest income 8117 04:52:38,244 --> 04:52:38,494 zip codes60% of the students are 8118 04:52:42,211 --> 04:52:42,461 female77% Hispanic or Africaner 8119 04:52:45,511 --> 04:52:45,761 um61% were actually from the 8120 04:52:47,744 --> 04:52:47,994 lowest income zip codes the 8121 04:52:49,744 --> 04:52:49,994 funding provided transforms the 8122 04:52:51,977 --> 04:52:52,227 culinary academy from a training 8123 04:52:53,977 --> 04:52:54,227 program into a full support 8124 04:52:55,944 --> 04:52:56,194 system that provides case 8125 04:52:57,644 --> 04:52:57,894 management, career services 8126 04:52:58,211 --> 04:52:58,461 wrapparound services 8127 04:53:02,411 --> 04:53:02,661 and ESl literary supports 8128 04:53:05,744 --> 04:53:05,994 it can provide support services 8129 04:53:07,477 --> 04:53:07,727 that are pretty comprehensive 8130 04:53:08,077 --> 04:53:08,327 things like childcare 8131 04:53:10,211 --> 04:53:10,461 transportation work attire work 8132 04:53:11,977 --> 04:53:12,227 cards health cards and testing 8133 04:53:13,711 --> 04:53:13,961 alcohol awareness cards and 8134 04:53:15,511 --> 04:53:15,761 testing fees on site meals at 8135 04:53:16,244 --> 04:53:16,494 less than the per diem hairir 8136 04:53:17,977 --> 04:53:18,227 care for interviews, interview 8137 04:53:19,977 --> 04:53:20,227 clothes hygiene products laundry 8138 04:53:21,477 --> 04:53:21,727 detergents so it really creates 8139 04:53:23,744 --> 04:53:23,994 a wrapparound model to eliminate 8140 04:53:25,977 --> 04:53:26,227 barriers for people since 2021 8141 04:53:27,677 --> 04:53:27,927 the culinary academy has 8142 04:53:28,244 --> 04:53:28,494 assessed 8143 04:53:32,377 --> 04:53:32,627 3600 students and they have 8144 04:53:35,777 --> 04:53:36,027 had1300 graduates of the 8145 04:53:39,977 --> 04:53:40,227 graduates that were AB3098 of 8146 04:53:41,977 --> 04:53:42,227 the students that were AB309 8147 04:53:45,511 --> 04:53:45,761 there's a85% graduation rate 8148 04:53:47,511 --> 04:53:47,761 of that85% graduation rate in 8149 04:53:49,977 --> 04:53:50,227 9tycent of them were employed 8150 04:53:53,977 --> 04:53:54,227 and of that 90%75% of them were 8151 04:53:55,944 --> 04:53:56,194 employed in union hotels and 8152 04:53:56,544 --> 04:53:56,794 they have very high retention in 8153 04:53:57,211 --> 04:53:57,461 their employment. 8154 04:54:01,511 --> 04:54:01,761 and we know that this is 8155 04:54:02,244 --> 04:54:02,494 important because removing those 8156 04:54:04,277 --> 04:54:04,527 practical barriers really 8157 04:54:06,011 --> 04:54:06,261 leads to completion of the 8158 04:54:07,744 --> 04:54:07,994 program ultimately employment 8159 04:54:09,711 --> 04:54:09,961 and retention it stabilizes 8160 04:54:11,811 --> 04:54:12,061 families and it also strengthens 8161 04:54:13,744 --> 04:54:13,994 the hospitality workforce 8162 04:54:14,477 --> 04:54:14,727 pipeline and the culinary 8163 04:54:16,144 --> 04:54:16,394 academy has agreements with many 8164 04:54:18,144 --> 04:54:18,394 of the resorts as an 8165 04:54:18,577 --> 04:54:18,827 employment pipe pipeline. 8166 04:54:22,011 --> 04:54:22,261 we also know that this 8167 04:54:24,011 --> 04:54:24,261 program leads to less reliance 8168 04:54:26,077 --> 04:54:26,327 on public assistance and greater 8169 04:54:27,744 --> 04:54:27,994 personal wellbeing for the 8170 04:54:28,311 --> 04:54:28,561 students that graduate and get 8171 04:54:28,977 --> 04:54:29,227 employed. 8172 04:54:32,211 --> 04:54:32,461 the bettermentgra with US 8173 04:54:35,977 --> 04:54:36,227 vets that again is a very 8174 04:54:37,511 --> 04:54:37,761 work focused and so it's a 8175 04:54:38,244 --> 04:54:38,494 collaborative bridge housing 8176 04:54:39,777 --> 04:54:40,027 employment and training 8177 04:54:41,744 --> 04:54:41,994 programme it's aimed at helping 8178 04:54:43,511 --> 04:54:43,761 people transition out of 8179 04:54:44,244 --> 04:54:44,494 homelessness and they try to get 8180 04:54:45,744 --> 04:54:45,994 them into permanent homeless 8181 04:54:47,944 --> 04:54:48,194 homelessness within 90 days the 8182 04:54:49,977 --> 04:54:50,227 average days that people are 8183 04:54:53,744 --> 04:54:53,994 in the program is actually67 8184 04:54:56,177 --> 04:54:56,427 they have a60% success rate 8185 04:54:57,711 --> 04:54:57,961 they can provide security 8186 04:54:58,544 --> 04:54:58,794 deposit first and last month's 8187 04:54:59,211 --> 04:54:59,461 rent rental application 8188 04:55:03,477 --> 04:55:03,727 fees but it is really very 8189 04:55:04,144 --> 04:55:04,394 much workforce focused 8190 04:55:04,611 --> 04:55:04,861 program. 8191 04:55:10,011 --> 04:55:10,261 going on to slide seven 8192 04:55:13,477 --> 04:55:13,727 we wanted to highlight that 8193 04:55:16,011 --> 04:55:16,261 we really strongly believe that 8194 04:55:19,511 --> 04:55:19,761 AB309 investment is impactful in 8195 04:55:20,244 --> 04:55:20,494 the community to individuals 8196 04:55:22,244 --> 04:55:22,494 families households in the 8197 04:55:25,777 --> 04:55:26,027 community and that is just 8198 04:55:27,477 --> 04:55:27,727 a funding source that has 8199 04:55:28,211 --> 04:55:28,461 been working for Clark County 8200 04:55:31,944 --> 04:55:32,194 I talked about some of our 8201 04:55:33,577 --> 04:55:33,827 programs but I also want to 8202 04:55:35,711 --> 04:55:35,961 highlight a few of them the 8203 04:55:39,477 --> 04:55:39,727 navigation center in 2024 8204 04:55:41,511 --> 04:55:41,761 received a national county 8205 04:55:42,177 --> 04:55:42,427 national association of 8206 04:55:44,444 --> 04:55:44,694 countuntiesco Achievement award 8207 04:55:46,211 --> 04:55:46,461 for recognition of innovative 8208 04:55:49,677 --> 04:55:49,927 county government programs 8209 04:55:51,744 --> 04:55:51,994 the US vets Bettermentgrame also 8210 04:55:54,244 --> 04:55:54,494 in 2024 received a national 8211 04:55:57,744 --> 04:55:57,994 neochiement award for innovation 8212 04:55:58,444 --> 04:55:58,694 the hospital to home 8213 04:56:01,977 --> 04:56:02,227 me program received the cashman 8214 04:56:03,511 --> 04:56:03,761 Good government award from the 8215 04:56:06,011 --> 04:56:06,261 Nevada Taxpayers association. it 8216 04:56:07,744 --> 04:56:07,994 honors government entities who 8217 04:56:09,477 --> 04:56:09,727 put workplace experience 8218 04:56:11,711 --> 04:56:11,961 together with ingenuity to 8219 04:56:13,744 --> 04:56:13,994 make citizen services work 8220 04:56:14,344 --> 04:56:14,594 better, faster and cheaper. 8221 04:56:17,511 --> 04:56:17,761 a couple of other programs that 8222 04:56:19,511 --> 04:56:19,761 are linked to these continuums 8223 04:56:20,511 --> 04:56:20,761 because we are very focused 8224 04:56:22,277 --> 04:56:22,527 on quality and having an impact 8225 04:56:24,011 --> 04:56:24,261 and creating a meaningful 8226 04:56:26,011 --> 04:56:26,261 continuum at our social services 8227 04:56:28,011 --> 04:56:28,261 department I want to highlight 8228 04:56:29,744 --> 04:56:29,994 two important programs that also 8229 04:56:31,777 --> 04:56:32,027 received awards our healthalthy 8230 04:56:33,511 --> 04:56:33,761 together mobilebile Dental and 8231 04:56:36,044 --> 04:56:36,294 optical clinic received a 8232 04:56:39,744 --> 04:56:39,994 national Nnico award in 2025 and 8233 04:56:41,511 --> 04:56:41,761 the eviction diversion program 8234 04:56:42,144 --> 04:56:42,394 that I referenced earlier 8235 04:56:44,044 --> 04:56:44,294 received a national Nnico award 8236 04:56:44,711 --> 04:56:44,961 in 2026. 8237 04:56:49,477 --> 04:56:49,727 I do want to highlight the 8238 04:56:50,077 --> 04:56:50,327 collaboration that occurs in 8239 04:56:51,744 --> 04:56:51,994 this work in the community 8240 04:56:52,311 --> 04:56:52,561 through the continuum of care of 8241 04:56:55,744 --> 04:56:55,994 the CC it's really charged with 8242 04:56:57,511 --> 04:56:57,761 coordinating funding for 8243 04:56:59,744 --> 04:56:59,994 services and housing to assist 8244 04:57:00,477 --> 04:57:00,727 individuals and families in 8245 04:57:03,511 --> 04:57:03,761 experiencing homelessness it 8246 04:57:05,477 --> 04:57:05,727 promotes really a communitywide 8247 04:57:06,177 --> 04:57:06,427 commitment to the goal of ending 8248 04:57:07,511 --> 04:57:07,761 homelessness a very 8249 04:57:09,511 --> 04:57:09,761 collaborative process with 8250 04:57:11,744 --> 04:57:11,994 representation from most of the 8251 04:57:14,244 --> 04:57:14,494 agencies touching 8252 04:57:14,611 --> 04:57:14,861 homelessness services in the 8253 04:57:15,311 --> 04:57:15,561 community 8254 04:57:19,511 --> 04:57:19,761 as you may know Hu puts out a 8255 04:57:21,477 --> 04:57:21,727 notice of uhho is funding 8256 04:57:25,744 --> 04:57:25,994 opportunity and the ClC is 8257 04:57:26,377 --> 04:57:26,627 really responsible with that 8258 04:57:27,977 --> 04:57:28,227 submission but Clark County 8259 04:57:30,044 --> 04:57:30,294 socialcialervices is what's 8260 04:57:30,611 --> 04:57:30,861 called the collaborative 8261 04:57:31,777 --> 04:57:32,027 applicants so we write it 8262 04:57:33,511 --> 04:57:33,761 we've used a lot of technical 8263 04:57:34,277 --> 04:57:34,527 assistance the community came 8264 04:57:36,011 --> 04:57:36,261 together to put really together 8265 04:57:39,477 --> 04:57:39,727 a a really innovative 8266 04:57:41,477 --> 04:57:41,727 application this year and it was 8267 04:57:42,511 --> 04:57:42,761 due August twenty6, but a 8268 04:57:45,677 --> 04:57:45,927 federal judge has halted the 8269 04:57:46,244 --> 04:57:46,494 process because 8270 04:57:49,777 --> 04:57:50,027 of two reasons that HU acted 8271 04:57:51,977 --> 04:57:52,227 illegally by creating a1.3 8272 04:57:54,244 --> 04:57:54,494 billion funding set aside for 8273 04:57:55,977 --> 04:57:56,227 temporary housing and treatment 8274 04:57:56,711 --> 04:57:56,961 programs without following 8275 04:57:59,511 --> 04:57:59,761 proper procedures and also had 8276 04:58:00,144 --> 04:58:00,394 failed to use the mandatory 8277 04:58:01,511 --> 04:58:01,761 notice and comment process 8278 04:58:03,511 --> 04:58:03,761 before making major policy 8279 04:58:05,744 --> 04:58:05,994 shifts and so that nofo 8280 04:58:07,511 --> 04:58:07,761 funding opportunity is on hold 8281 04:58:08,211 --> 04:58:08,461 and HU has not announced a 8282 04:58:11,711 --> 04:58:11,961 timeline or released a new 8283 04:58:12,477 --> 04:58:12,727 what's considered compliant 8284 04:58:15,677 --> 04:58:15,927 notice of funding opportunity I 8285 04:58:16,344 --> 04:58:16,594 want to talk a little bit about 8286 04:58:18,244 --> 04:58:18,494 our federal funding because we 8287 04:58:19,977 --> 04:58:20,227 are somewhat constrained in the 8288 04:58:21,777 --> 04:58:22,027 community based on a few 8289 04:58:22,377 --> 04:58:22,627 executive presidential executive 8290 04:58:23,044 --> 04:58:23,294 orders 8291 04:58:25,944 --> 04:58:26,194 the save and executive 8292 04:58:29,977 --> 04:58:30,227 order14218 ending taxpayer 8293 04:58:33,477 --> 04:58:33,727 subsidization of open borders 8294 04:58:34,077 --> 04:58:34,327 it's also personal 8295 04:58:34,577 --> 04:58:34,827 responsibility and work 8296 04:58:37,977 --> 04:58:38,227 reconciliation Act of1996urwara 8297 04:58:41,477 --> 04:58:41,727 is the typical name that you 8298 04:58:43,711 --> 04:58:43,961 hear for it it defines 8299 04:58:45,477 --> 04:58:45,727 qualified immigrants and it 8300 04:58:47,511 --> 04:58:47,761 establishes that federal public 8301 04:58:49,744 --> 04:58:49,994 benefit cannot be provided to 8302 04:58:51,477 --> 04:58:51,727 anyone who is not a qualified 8303 04:58:52,077 --> 04:58:52,327 immigrant qualified immigrant 8304 04:58:55,744 --> 04:58:55,994 excludes temporary protected 8305 04:58:57,977 --> 04:58:58,227 status DAA recipients 8306 04:58:59,744 --> 04:58:59,994 individuals granted employment 8307 04:59:01,477 --> 04:59:01,727 authorization 8308 04:59:03,744 --> 04:59:03,994 and individuals with non 8309 04:59:04,377 --> 04:59:04,627 immigrant visas and undocumented 8310 04:59:05,044 --> 04:59:05,294 citizens. 8311 04:59:09,477 --> 04:59:09,727 in our services when we're 8312 04:59:10,144 --> 04:59:10,394 working with everybody in the 8313 04:59:12,177 --> 04:59:12,427 community if we come across 8314 04:59:13,511 --> 04:59:13,761 somebody who doesn't have a 8315 04:59:15,744 --> 04:59:15,994 birth certificate a passport or 8316 04:59:18,211 --> 04:59:18,461 documentation we are required to 8317 04:59:20,244 --> 04:59:20,494 run them through the systemic 8318 04:59:21,977 --> 04:59:22,227 alien verification for 8319 04:59:23,711 --> 04:59:23,961 entitlement programme or the 8320 04:59:26,011 --> 04:59:26,261 save program and then we will 8321 04:59:27,977 --> 04:59:28,227 learn if they are eligible for 8322 04:59:31,511 --> 04:59:31,761 services with federal funding 8323 04:59:33,711 --> 04:59:33,961 also the multiple executive 8324 04:59:35,477 --> 04:59:35,727 order orders targeting 8325 04:59:36,011 --> 04:59:36,261 diversity, equity and inclusion 8326 04:59:39,711 --> 04:59:39,961 or DI affirmative action and 8327 04:59:41,477 --> 04:59:41,727 disparate impact liability 8328 04:59:43,744 --> 04:59:43,994 require grant recipients to 8329 04:59:45,744 --> 04:59:45,994 eliminate raceconscious 8330 04:59:47,677 --> 04:59:47,927 practices race preferences and 8331 04:59:48,344 --> 04:59:48,594 DEI programs. 8332 04:59:51,477 --> 04:59:51,727 and so there are many people 8333 04:59:52,244 --> 04:59:52,494 that we are able to serve in the 8334 04:59:53,844 --> 04:59:54,094 community because of AB309. 8335 04:59:57,477 --> 04:59:57,727 and there are programs that are 8336 04:59:58,244 --> 04:59:58,494 federally funded that we cannot 8337 04:59:59,777 --> 05:00:00,027 accept people into 8338 05:00:00,211 --> 05:00:00,461 unfortunately and there are 8339 05:00:02,211 --> 05:00:02,461 people who are vulnerable and 8340 05:00:04,211 --> 05:00:04,461 are in need in this community 8341 05:00:06,177 --> 05:00:06,427 they have families and so 8342 05:00:07,944 --> 05:00:08,194 this is really important funding 8343 05:00:08,611 --> 05:00:08,861 for in particular at this time. 8344 05:00:18,244 --> 05:00:18,494 your joannajacob for the record 8345 05:00:20,244 --> 05:00:20,494 I will stop again there our 8346 05:00:22,011 --> 05:00:22,261 next slide is going to move on 8347 05:00:24,011 --> 05:00:24,261 to a different category in the 8348 05:00:25,777 --> 05:00:26,027 bill and that's the truancy 8349 05:00:27,744 --> 05:00:27,994 programming, but I'll stop again 8350 05:00:29,711 --> 05:00:29,961 chair at your discretion to see 8351 05:00:31,711 --> 05:00:31,961 if there are any questions on 8352 05:00:32,377 --> 05:00:32,627 this information that we just 8353 05:00:32,977 --> 05:00:33,227 presented 8354 05:00:35,611 --> 05:00:35,861 you can just 8355 05:00:42,327 --> 05:00:42,577 Joannajacobs for the record 8356 05:00:45,477 --> 05:00:45,727 again we'll sub out director 8357 05:00:46,077 --> 05:00:46,327 Sorerenson and we'll bring Jill 8358 05:00:47,977 --> 05:00:48,227 Moreno to the table she's our 8359 05:00:49,977 --> 05:00:50,227 director of clinical services 8360 05:00:51,511 --> 05:00:51,761 and community services our 8361 05:00:53,711 --> 05:00:53,961 newest Clark County 8362 05:00:55,511 --> 05:00:55,761 department and she's going to 8363 05:00:57,511 --> 05:00:57,761 talk about what we have done 8364 05:00:58,077 --> 05:00:58,327 with truancy through the years 8365 05:00:58,711 --> 05:00:58,961 and where we are heading next. 8366 05:01:04,444 --> 05:01:04,694 thank you chair member of the 8367 05:01:05,944 --> 05:01:06,194 committees again my name is 8368 05:01:08,211 --> 05:01:08,461 Jill Morano and I serve as the 8369 05:01:09,711 --> 05:01:09,961 director of Clark County's 8370 05:01:10,277 --> 05:01:10,527 clinical andunervices 8371 05:01:13,711 --> 05:01:13,961 I just have a couple of 8372 05:01:15,977 --> 05:01:16,227 slides here on what we have done 8373 05:01:17,744 --> 05:01:17,994 in clinical and community 8374 05:01:19,711 --> 05:01:19,961 services with our EB309 funds 8375 05:01:21,911 --> 05:01:22,161 our biggest program is our 8376 05:01:24,244 --> 05:01:24,494 truancy truancy intervention 8377 05:01:26,211 --> 05:01:26,461 programme often referred to 8378 05:01:28,177 --> 05:01:28,427 in the community as teapop or 8379 05:01:29,911 --> 05:01:30,161 truancy prevention outreach 8380 05:01:30,444 --> 05:01:30,694 programme 8381 05:01:31,644 --> 05:01:31,894 and 8382 05:01:35,744 --> 05:01:35,994 it's been a really you know it's 8383 05:01:37,744 --> 05:01:37,994 exciting couple of years for us 8384 05:01:39,944 --> 05:01:40,194 in the truancy in in our 8385 05:01:41,911 --> 05:01:42,161 truancy work we provide a 8386 05:01:44,144 --> 05:01:44,394 range of services that are you 8387 05:01:45,677 --> 05:01:45,927 know really all customized to 8388 05:01:46,377 --> 05:01:46,627 each of the families that we 8389 05:01:48,144 --> 05:01:48,394 serve so not every family gets 8390 05:01:51,477 --> 05:01:51,727 the exact same set of services 8391 05:01:53,711 --> 05:01:53,961 but over the last two school 8392 05:01:55,477 --> 05:01:55,727 years we've really worked 8393 05:01:56,144 --> 05:01:56,394 closely and really tried to 8394 05:01:57,511 --> 05:01:57,761 enhance our relationship with 8395 05:01:59,511 --> 05:01:59,761 the clark County school district 8396 05:02:01,511 --> 05:02:01,761 to refine our referral process 8397 05:02:02,144 --> 05:02:02,394 and ensure that we really are 8398 05:02:02,811 --> 05:02:03,061 reaching 8399 05:02:05,477 --> 05:02:05,727 the right population. the 8400 05:02:07,477 --> 05:02:07,727 school district has also been 8401 05:02:08,144 --> 05:02:08,394 been really clear in the last 8402 05:02:09,944 --> 05:02:10,194 couple of years that they want 8403 05:02:12,177 --> 05:02:12,427 their individual schools to also 8404 05:02:14,144 --> 05:02:14,394 engage in truancy and chronic 8405 05:02:17,477 --> 05:02:17,727 absenteeism efforts and have 8406 05:02:19,477 --> 05:02:19,727 made some good efforts at 8407 05:02:21,911 --> 05:02:22,161 clarifying their role versus our 8408 05:02:24,144 --> 05:02:24,394 role and so how we what we've 8409 05:02:25,677 --> 05:02:25,927 really worked on in the last 8410 05:02:28,211 --> 05:02:28,461 couple of years is clarifying 8411 05:02:29,944 --> 05:02:30,194 that we do in thetru and world 8412 05:02:31,811 --> 05:02:32,061 what is called the tier two and 8413 05:02:32,511 --> 05:02:32,761 tier three interventions 8414 05:02:34,177 --> 05:02:34,427 whereas the schools will focus 8415 05:02:35,911 --> 05:02:36,161 on the tier one interventions 8416 05:02:37,711 --> 05:02:37,961 which are typically the earlier 8417 05:02:39,911 --> 05:02:40,161 interventions. So it's tier one 8418 05:02:41,477 --> 05:02:41,727 intervention would be things 8419 05:02:43,477 --> 05:02:43,727 like emails and phone calls to 8420 05:02:44,344 --> 05:02:44,594 parents sending attendance 8421 05:02:46,144 --> 05:02:46,394 letters making an attendance 8422 05:02:48,144 --> 05:02:48,394 contract with a student and 8423 05:02:50,144 --> 05:02:50,394 then making referrals internally 8424 05:02:51,944 --> 05:02:52,194 to school counselors and social 8425 05:02:53,944 --> 05:02:54,194 workers when those types of 8426 05:02:56,144 --> 05:02:56,394 interventions don't work the 8427 05:02:57,744 --> 05:02:57,994 school district refers those 8428 05:03:01,477 --> 05:03:01,727 cases to us to also attempt a 8429 05:03:02,111 --> 05:03:02,361 more intensive interventions and 8430 05:03:04,177 --> 05:03:04,427 so at that tier two level the 8431 05:03:05,911 --> 05:03:06,161 kinds of things that we are 8432 05:03:08,177 --> 05:03:08,427 doing in our truancy program 8433 05:03:10,111 --> 05:03:10,361 is completing home visits going 8434 05:03:13,711 --> 05:03:13,961 to schools to visit students 8435 05:03:14,344 --> 05:03:14,594 completing a needs assessment 8436 05:03:16,144 --> 05:03:16,394 case plannings various 8437 05:03:18,277 --> 05:03:18,527 referrals to community providers 8438 05:03:21,977 --> 05:03:22,227 and so what we've seen with 8439 05:03:23,977 --> 05:03:24,227 those tier two interventions is 8440 05:03:26,177 --> 05:03:26,427 that we had about6200 youth that 8441 05:03:29,711 --> 05:03:29,961 were referred to us last year 8442 05:03:33,477 --> 05:03:33,727 and almost 2800 families that we 8443 05:03:37,477 --> 05:03:37,727 reached of those62 se79 did 8444 05:03:38,177 --> 05:03:38,427 engage in services so it's about 8445 05:03:41,977 --> 05:03:42,227 a44% rate of families engaging 8446 05:03:43,744 --> 05:03:43,994 engaging with us that's a number 8447 05:03:45,477 --> 05:03:45,727 we would like to see higher but 8448 05:03:46,177 --> 05:03:46,427 for a voluntary service they're 8449 05:03:48,544 --> 05:03:48,794 pretty pleased to be able to get 8450 05:03:49,211 --> 05:03:49,461 to get that high 8451 05:03:53,444 --> 05:03:53,694 of a number. The other really 8452 05:03:55,444 --> 05:03:55,694 exciting thing that we saw was 8453 05:03:56,144 --> 05:03:56,394 and we we tracked attendance 8454 05:03:59,711 --> 05:03:59,961 outcomes at30,60,90 and120 days 8455 05:04:01,711 --> 05:04:01,961 Our our sweet spot seems to be 8456 05:04:05,477 --> 05:04:05,727 the60 day number 94% of all 8457 05:04:07,911 --> 05:04:08,161 the families that we that we 8458 05:04:09,711 --> 05:04:09,961 intervened with had improved 8459 05:04:11,744 --> 05:04:11,994 school attendance at that60 day 8460 05:04:13,944 --> 05:04:14,194 mark the families are averaging 8461 05:04:17,511 --> 05:04:17,761 about 23 more days of school in 8462 05:04:18,544 --> 05:04:18,794 the60 days post our intervention 8463 05:04:19,211 --> 05:04:19,461 as compared to 8464 05:04:22,244 --> 05:04:22,494 before our intervention that 8465 05:04:25,444 --> 05:04:25,694 does trail off a little bit 8466 05:04:28,177 --> 05:04:28,427 as you get closer to the1212 8467 05:04:31,677 --> 05:04:31,927 days last year we noted 8468 05:04:34,144 --> 05:04:34,394 that71% of the families still 8469 05:04:37,711 --> 05:04:37,961 had improved attendance a120 8470 05:04:39,711 --> 05:04:39,961 days after our intervention so 8471 05:04:41,977 --> 05:04:42,227 big improvement from the year 8472 05:04:44,211 --> 05:04:44,461 before when it was about53% so 8473 05:04:46,211 --> 05:04:46,461 really excited to see that 8474 05:04:48,211 --> 05:04:48,461 the changes that we have put in 8475 05:04:48,877 --> 05:04:49,127 place in the last couple of 8476 05:04:49,444 --> 05:04:49,694 years 8477 05:04:53,477 --> 05:04:53,727 seemed to be resulting in 8478 05:04:55,477 --> 05:04:55,727 meaningful outcomes for the kids 8479 05:04:56,144 --> 05:04:56,394 and families that we're serving 8480 05:05:02,111 --> 05:05:02,361 I can the next thing I wanted to 8481 05:05:03,911 --> 05:05:04,161 talk about maybe moves a little 8482 05:05:06,111 --> 05:05:06,361 bit away from teapop but it's 8483 05:05:07,944 --> 05:05:08,194 really about some of the the 8484 05:05:09,477 --> 05:05:09,727 bigger shifts that we're trying 8485 05:05:11,711 --> 05:05:11,961 to make within the county as as 8486 05:05:13,477 --> 05:05:13,727 we mentioned we created a new 8487 05:05:14,144 --> 05:05:14,394 department clinical and 8488 05:05:16,111 --> 05:05:16,361 community services the idea 8489 05:05:17,877 --> 05:05:18,127 behind this department was to 8490 05:05:19,944 --> 05:05:20,194 streamline and consolidate the 8491 05:05:21,711 --> 05:05:21,961 mental behavioral health 8492 05:05:22,244 --> 05:05:22,494 services in the early 8493 05:05:25,511 --> 05:05:25,761 intervention and prevention 8494 05:05:26,177 --> 05:05:26,427 programs on both the juvenile 8495 05:05:28,144 --> 05:05:28,394 justice and child welfare 8496 05:05:28,677 --> 05:05:28,927 sides of the house with the 8497 05:05:32,144 --> 05:05:32,394 idea being that there's a lot of 8498 05:05:33,911 --> 05:05:34,161 kids being served in both 8499 05:05:36,144 --> 05:05:36,394 systems and so it just made 8500 05:05:37,744 --> 05:05:37,994 sense that you have the same 8501 05:05:39,511 --> 05:05:39,761 clinician working with you or 8502 05:05:41,711 --> 05:05:41,961 the same access to services to 8503 05:05:44,144 --> 05:05:44,394 prevent further entry into 8504 05:05:46,211 --> 05:05:46,461 either one of the systems and so 8505 05:05:48,177 --> 05:05:48,427 in in creating that new 8506 05:05:49,744 --> 05:05:49,994 department the other thing that 8507 05:05:51,677 --> 05:05:51,927 we are doing is combining our 8508 05:05:54,177 --> 05:05:54,427 teapop services with our 8509 05:05:55,944 --> 05:05:56,194 harbors which are our juvenile 8510 05:05:57,511 --> 05:05:57,761 assessment center that you may 8511 05:05:58,177 --> 05:05:58,427 be familiar with on the juvenile 8512 05:05:58,844 --> 05:05:59,094 delinquency side of the house 8513 05:06:01,944 --> 05:06:02,194 the the harbors have been 8514 05:06:03,911 --> 05:06:04,161 around for several years they 8515 05:06:05,677 --> 05:06:05,927 always have operated very 8516 05:06:06,377 --> 05:06:06,627 separately from our truancy 8517 05:06:10,177 --> 05:06:10,427 program when we look at this the 8518 05:06:11,977 --> 05:06:12,227 families and the students being 8519 05:06:14,177 --> 05:06:14,427 served through the harbors72% of 8520 05:06:15,944 --> 05:06:16,194 those youth also have an 8521 05:06:18,377 --> 05:06:18,627 attendance problem and so it 8522 05:06:20,144 --> 05:06:20,394 just made sense to really make 8523 05:06:23,511 --> 05:06:23,761 sure that all of the services 8524 05:06:25,477 --> 05:06:25,727 that we're providing on either 8525 05:06:27,477 --> 05:06:27,727 side of the house are available 8526 05:06:28,144 --> 05:06:28,394 to both to both. it 8527 05:06:28,577 --> 05:06:28,827 eliminates the need for families 8528 05:06:31,911 --> 05:06:32,161 to be cross referred from one 8529 05:06:34,111 --> 05:06:34,361 program to another and makes 8530 05:06:35,911 --> 05:06:36,161 sure that every student that's 8531 05:06:37,511 --> 05:06:37,761 coming lets as an example maybe 8532 05:06:39,477 --> 05:06:39,727 in anger management class it's 8533 05:06:40,144 --> 05:06:40,394 available to you whether you're 8534 05:06:41,911 --> 05:06:42,161 a teapop student or a Harva 8535 05:06:43,944 --> 05:06:44,194 student. so we're in the process 8536 05:06:47,477 --> 05:06:47,727 this year of of making that 8537 05:06:49,511 --> 05:06:49,761 merge and we're you know 8538 05:06:50,177 --> 05:06:50,427 looking at these is more like a 8539 05:06:51,944 --> 05:06:52,194 community connection center or 8540 05:06:53,711 --> 05:06:53,961 community support center where 8541 05:06:55,511 --> 05:06:55,761 it's really we're we're trying 8542 05:06:56,144 --> 05:06:56,394 to implement the one door 8543 05:06:58,477 --> 05:06:58,727 approach where no matter what 8544 05:06:59,144 --> 05:06:59,394 your what you walk in 8545 05:07:02,111 --> 05:07:02,361 to us needing as a family we're 8546 05:07:04,144 --> 05:07:04,394 able to make sure that you that 8547 05:07:06,377 --> 05:07:06,627 you get that and we're really 8548 05:07:07,944 --> 05:07:08,194 trying to increase the services 8549 05:07:09,477 --> 05:07:09,727 that we're providing in the 8550 05:07:11,477 --> 05:07:11,727 building as opposed to it being 8551 05:07:13,477 --> 05:07:13,727 more of a referralbased program 8552 05:07:15,711 --> 05:07:15,961 so we're very excited about the 8553 05:07:17,911 --> 05:07:18,161 about how we're growing with 8554 05:07:21,477 --> 05:07:21,727 teapop and how we are able to 8555 05:07:23,511 --> 05:07:23,761 increase the services we we view 8556 05:07:24,177 --> 05:07:24,427 ourselves as being able to 8557 05:07:25,677 --> 05:07:25,927 increase the services to more 8558 05:07:26,477 --> 05:07:26,727 folks in need in the 8559 05:07:26,944 --> 05:07:27,194 community 8560 05:07:31,777 --> 05:07:32,027 so if we want to go to the next 8561 05:07:33,844 --> 05:07:34,094 slide 8562 05:07:37,477 --> 05:07:37,727 the other the other really 8563 05:07:38,011 --> 05:07:38,261 significant program that we're 8564 05:07:39,911 --> 05:07:40,161 working on creating is building 8565 05:07:41,477 --> 05:07:41,727 out our differential response 8566 05:07:42,177 --> 05:07:42,427 programifferential response is a 8567 05:07:45,477 --> 05:07:45,727 child welfare intervention it is 8568 05:07:47,944 --> 05:07:48,194 an informal voluntary response 8569 05:07:50,177 --> 05:07:50,427 for cases where safety 8570 05:07:51,911 --> 05:07:52,161 concerns have not been 8571 05:07:53,711 --> 05:07:53,961 identified but there is a risk 8572 05:07:55,477 --> 05:07:55,727 of maltreatment that's been 8573 05:07:57,977 --> 05:07:58,227 identified what we have noticed 8574 05:08:00,177 --> 05:08:00,427 particularly in some of our 8575 05:08:02,144 --> 05:08:02,394 our lower level of child welfare 8576 05:08:04,044 --> 05:08:04,294 cases is that they are very 8577 05:08:04,611 --> 05:08:04,861 typically related to education 8578 05:08:06,211 --> 05:08:06,461 al neglect and housing and 8579 05:08:09,477 --> 05:08:09,727 homeless service needs housing 8580 05:08:10,444 --> 05:08:10,694 and homeless instability that is 8581 05:08:12,211 --> 05:08:12,461 creating some sort of safety 8582 05:08:13,911 --> 05:08:14,161 concern for the child and so 8583 05:08:16,211 --> 05:08:16,461 what what the goal is in 8584 05:08:17,944 --> 05:08:18,194 building out this differential 8585 05:08:19,944 --> 05:08:20,194 response program is to be able 8586 05:08:21,711 --> 05:08:21,961 to informally serve those 8587 05:08:23,744 --> 05:08:23,994 families before they meet the 8588 05:08:25,711 --> 05:08:25,961 threshold of needing a child 8589 05:08:27,977 --> 05:08:28,227 welfare intervention based on 8590 05:08:29,711 --> 05:08:29,961 what we have been looking at 8591 05:08:31,711 --> 05:08:31,961 we've estimate being able to 8592 05:08:34,077 --> 05:08:34,327 serve somewhere between01200 8593 05:08:34,644 --> 05:08:34,894 families a 8594 05:08:36,511 --> 05:08:36,761 year through this model which 8595 05:08:37,077 --> 05:08:37,327 are 8596 05:08:40,177 --> 05:08:40,427 cases that are currently being 8597 05:08:42,411 --> 05:08:42,661 upcoded if you will to a child 8598 05:08:44,211 --> 05:08:44,461 welfare response when it's maybe 8599 05:08:45,977 --> 05:08:46,227 not necessary because of the 8600 05:08:47,744 --> 05:08:47,994 lower level prevention servicece 8601 05:08:49,744 --> 05:08:49,994 isn't available so we're we're 8602 05:08:51,477 --> 05:08:51,727 looking at this as an 8603 05:08:53,711 --> 05:08:53,961 opportunity to not only be 8604 05:08:54,277 --> 05:08:54,527 able to relieve 8605 05:08:59,711 --> 05:08:59,961 some of thecPS investigators in 8606 05:09:01,711 --> 05:09:01,961 their workload but also in 8607 05:09:03,511 --> 05:09:03,761 allowing them more time to focus 8608 05:09:05,711 --> 05:09:05,961 on the higher need cases but 8609 05:09:07,477 --> 05:09:07,727 also being able to more 8610 05:09:08,144 --> 05:09:08,394 informally and maybe a more 8611 05:09:10,144 --> 05:09:10,394 comfortable environment serve 8612 05:09:13,477 --> 05:09:13,727 families when it's really 8613 05:09:14,277 --> 05:09:14,527 more of a voluntary service that 8614 05:09:14,944 --> 05:09:15,194 doesn't have 8615 05:09:18,177 --> 05:09:18,427 the bere or pressure that 8616 05:09:19,977 --> 05:09:20,227 knowing you have a child open 8617 05:09:21,711 --> 05:09:21,961 child welfare investigation can 8618 05:09:23,744 --> 05:09:23,994 bring so that is one we're 8619 05:09:25,444 --> 05:09:25,694 planning on our goal is to have 8620 05:09:26,411 --> 05:09:26,661 that program up and running 8621 05:09:27,644 --> 05:09:27,894 by december of this year. 8622 05:09:34,711 --> 05:09:34,961 I don't know if there are any 8623 05:09:38,277 --> 05:09:38,527 particular questions at this 8624 05:09:43,811 --> 05:09:44,061 we'll keep going I 8625 05:09:47,444 --> 05:09:47,694 we only have two more slides 8626 05:09:49,511 --> 05:09:49,761 chairneal and so I'll just go 8627 05:09:50,077 --> 05:09:50,327 over these really quickly. This 8628 05:09:53,744 --> 05:09:53,994 is the another category under 8629 05:09:55,711 --> 05:09:55,961 the statute is early childhood 8630 05:09:58,177 --> 05:09:58,427 education and prek you know I 8631 05:10:00,211 --> 05:10:00,461 think you heard it's been some 8632 05:10:01,711 --> 05:10:01,961 we have so much intersection 8633 05:10:02,377 --> 05:10:02,627 between the systems 8634 05:10:05,744 --> 05:10:05,994 sometimes hard to divide up into 8635 05:10:07,711 --> 05:10:07,961 categories but this is one that 8636 05:10:09,711 --> 05:10:09,961 we've been doing since 22 since 8637 05:10:11,911 --> 05:10:12,161 the since the early days of this 8638 05:10:14,077 --> 05:10:14,327 funding that we have supported a 8639 05:10:16,111 --> 05:10:16,361 facility in the historic west 8640 05:10:18,077 --> 05:10:18,327 side of Las Vegas we helped 8641 05:10:19,911 --> 05:10:20,161 initially with capital 8642 05:10:22,144 --> 05:10:22,394 investment that allowed the 8643 05:10:25,511 --> 05:10:25,761 rainbowreams Learning academy to 8644 05:10:27,477 --> 05:10:27,727 to basically expand and so now 8645 05:10:29,477 --> 05:10:29,727 the ongoing funding that we have 8646 05:10:31,477 --> 05:10:31,727 been doing every year since then 8647 05:10:32,244 --> 05:10:32,494 has been to support the 8648 05:10:32,777 --> 05:10:33,027 operation of 8649 05:10:36,144 --> 05:10:36,394 this facility they serve 8650 05:10:38,111 --> 05:10:38,361 families and their goal is to 8651 05:10:40,111 --> 05:10:40,361 serve families with incomes 8652 05:10:42,111 --> 05:10:42,361 below 200% of the federal 8653 05:10:43,911 --> 05:10:44,161 poverty level and this has been 8654 05:10:45,477 --> 05:10:45,727 something that has been 8655 05:10:47,911 --> 05:10:48,161 consistent every year that 8656 05:10:49,911 --> 05:10:50,161 this has helped to support this 8657 05:10:52,144 --> 05:10:52,394 particular facility in an 8658 05:10:55,777 --> 05:10:56,027 area that really needed it at 8659 05:10:56,377 --> 05:10:56,627 that time 8660 05:10:58,277 --> 05:10:58,527 I will go to our final slide 8661 05:11:03,444 --> 05:11:03,694 which we added in this is 8662 05:11:05,444 --> 05:11:05,694 something that we invested in 8663 05:11:06,111 --> 05:11:06,361 I don't know how many of the 8664 05:11:07,677 --> 05:11:07,927 committee members are familiar 8665 05:11:09,877 --> 05:11:10,127 with our microbusiness park 8666 05:11:11,677 --> 05:11:11,927 it's been something that we've 8667 05:11:13,477 --> 05:11:13,727 been working on for multiple 8668 05:11:14,111 --> 05:11:14,361 years it's been supported 8669 05:11:15,911 --> 05:11:16,161 through multiple streams of 8670 05:11:17,677 --> 05:11:17,927 funding began with a 8671 05:11:19,744 --> 05:11:19,994 congressional appropriation many 8672 05:11:21,711 --> 05:11:21,961 years ago but it's very exciting 8673 05:11:23,711 --> 05:11:23,961 because it's actually coming to 8674 05:11:25,744 --> 05:11:25,994 it's actually happening now 8675 05:11:27,511 --> 05:11:27,761 we had a groundbreaking last 8676 05:11:28,544 --> 05:11:28,794 year and we are actively 8677 05:11:31,711 --> 05:11:31,961 really this is going to be 8678 05:11:33,711 --> 05:11:33,961 something that can debut very 8679 05:11:37,477 --> 05:11:37,727 shortly we contributed AB309 8680 05:11:38,144 --> 05:11:38,394 funding to the housing 8681 05:11:39,911 --> 05:11:40,161 component of this the 8682 05:11:41,944 --> 05:11:42,194 microbusiness park is a mixed 8683 05:11:45,444 --> 05:11:45,694 use development and it is 8684 05:11:47,677 --> 05:11:47,927 going to layer in housing and 8685 05:11:49,977 --> 05:11:50,227 commercial operations and retail 8686 05:11:52,211 --> 05:11:52,461 all in one facility so this 8687 05:11:53,944 --> 05:11:54,194 is something when we were 8688 05:11:55,477 --> 05:11:55,727 reporting on what how this 8689 05:11:56,177 --> 05:11:56,427 funding has been used then that 8690 05:11:57,911 --> 05:11:58,161 was layered in through our 8691 05:11:58,477 --> 05:11:58,727 community housing office 8692 05:12:01,911 --> 05:12:02,161 to support the development of 8693 05:12:05,477 --> 05:12:05,727 se6 affordable units and that's 8694 05:12:06,377 --> 05:12:06,627 targeting households between50 8695 05:12:09,911 --> 05:12:10,161 and80% of the AMI I will leave 8696 05:12:11,711 --> 05:12:11,961 it at that OK and that's the 8697 05:12:14,144 --> 05:12:14,394 that's our last slide and we 8698 05:12:15,677 --> 05:12:15,927 will stand for questions chair 8699 05:12:16,311 --> 05:12:16,561 now. 8700 05:12:18,044 --> 05:12:18,294 members any 8701 05:12:21,777 --> 05:12:22,027 assemblywoman anderson 8702 05:12:25,877 --> 05:12:26,127 thank you thank you for a very 8703 05:12:28,277 --> 05:12:28,527 detailed information but very 8704 05:12:28,911 --> 05:12:29,161 important programs 8705 05:12:31,711 --> 05:12:31,961 I'm reluctant to ask this 8706 05:12:33,477 --> 05:12:33,727 question for a few reasons the 8707 05:12:34,211 --> 05:12:34,461 most important being the safety 8708 05:12:35,611 --> 05:12:35,861 of our students are the most 8709 05:12:36,177 --> 05:12:36,427 important thing. 8710 05:12:39,477 --> 05:12:39,727 when it comes to the the prior 8711 05:12:41,477 --> 05:12:41,727 presentation it there was 8712 05:12:42,044 --> 05:12:42,294 information stated that 8713 05:12:44,144 --> 05:12:44,394 there had to be verification 8714 05:12:45,911 --> 05:12:46,161 that the individuals that were 8715 05:12:48,144 --> 05:12:48,394 participating were actual 8716 05:12:49,944 --> 05:12:50,194 citizens and or were here 8717 05:12:50,544 --> 05:12:50,794 legally. 8718 05:12:53,444 --> 05:12:53,694 when it comes to the truant 8719 05:12:54,144 --> 05:12:54,394 students is that same 8720 05:12:56,211 --> 05:12:56,461 requirement present or is this 8721 05:12:57,944 --> 05:12:58,194 because it's under a partnership 8722 05:12:59,477 --> 05:12:59,727 with Clark County School 8723 05:13:00,111 --> 05:13:00,361 District is is considered to be 8724 05:13:01,844 --> 05:13:02,094 a different 8725 05:13:06,411 --> 05:13:06,661 jill Moreno for the record and 8726 05:13:07,977 --> 05:13:08,227 chair through you to the 8727 05:13:10,211 --> 05:13:10,461 assemblywoman no because it's 8728 05:13:11,911 --> 05:13:12,161 EB309 funds they're not 8729 05:13:12,477 --> 05:13:12,727 restricted in that way. 8730 05:13:16,211 --> 05:13:16,461 I'll just add umerneal 8731 05:13:17,711 --> 05:13:17,961 assemblyman Anderson I think 8732 05:13:19,511 --> 05:13:19,761 that was the point those are 8733 05:13:20,477 --> 05:13:20,727 national changes that are 8734 05:13:21,977 --> 05:13:22,227 happening across this nation and 8735 05:13:23,744 --> 05:13:23,994 that's the importance of the 8736 05:13:25,977 --> 05:13:26,227 local funding and that we can 8737 05:13:27,977 --> 05:13:28,227 serve families and director 8738 05:13:29,477 --> 05:13:29,727 Sorenson talked about kind of 8739 05:13:30,211 --> 05:13:30,461 layering and braiding the 8740 05:13:31,811 --> 05:13:32,061 funding that is our approach 8741 05:13:32,377 --> 05:13:32,627 currently. 8742 05:13:35,711 --> 05:13:35,961 thank you so much and and I 8743 05:13:37,511 --> 05:13:37,761 would also like to just say how 8744 05:13:38,177 --> 05:13:38,427 much I 8745 05:13:39,744 --> 05:13:39,994 appreciatedrectorharrenson's 8746 05:13:41,711 --> 05:13:41,961 passion and obvious care for 8747 05:13:43,711 --> 05:13:43,961 people and the concerns that 8748 05:13:45,977 --> 05:13:46,227 were not stated that I think all 8749 05:13:46,677 --> 05:13:46,927 of us are thinking of which is 8750 05:13:48,011 --> 05:13:48,261 the fact that many individuals 8751 05:13:49,511 --> 05:13:49,761 could be trafficked pretty 8752 05:13:51,744 --> 05:13:51,994 easily without our being able to 8753 05:13:53,477 --> 05:13:53,727 help protect them so thank you 8754 05:13:55,511 --> 05:13:55,761 very much for for bringing that 8755 05:13:56,244 --> 05:13:56,494 information forward and for 8756 05:13:57,977 --> 05:13:58,227 making sure that we are aware of 8757 05:14:00,044 --> 05:14:00,294 the changes at the federal 8758 05:14:00,611 --> 05:14:00,861 government. thank you chairir. 8759 05:14:03,711 --> 05:14:03,961 thank you for that so I just 8760 05:14:05,511 --> 05:14:05,761 have two questions and then we 8761 05:14:06,177 --> 05:14:06,427 can close out this presentation 8762 05:14:07,944 --> 05:14:08,194 so when you guys were talking 8763 05:14:09,977 --> 05:14:10,227 about adult education maybe I 8764 05:14:11,777 --> 05:14:12,027 missed how much are you spending 8765 05:14:12,477 --> 05:14:12,727 on adult edd program? 8766 05:14:19,744 --> 05:14:19,994 Sureneal I am going back to the 8767 05:14:21,744 --> 05:14:21,994 slide real quick I don't cause I 8768 05:14:23,744 --> 05:14:23,994 don't know the numbers offhand 8769 05:14:24,444 --> 05:14:24,694 but director Sorerenson will 8770 05:14:25,111 --> 05:14:25,361 come in 8771 05:14:27,911 --> 05:14:28,161 I think this was on the form 8772 05:14:32,211 --> 05:14:32,461 for the culinary academy and 8773 05:14:33,777 --> 05:14:34,027 the betterment program the 8774 05:14:36,011 --> 05:14:36,261 allocation is4 million I 8775 05:14:37,511 --> 05:14:37,761 don't have the specific 8776 05:14:39,511 --> 05:14:39,761 breakdown between the program 8777 05:14:40,211 --> 05:14:40,461 and my notes at this point it's 8778 05:14:42,277 --> 05:14:42,527 on the betterment programme is 8779 05:14:45,511 --> 05:14:45,761 that is that is that countywide 8780 05:14:46,211 --> 05:14:46,461 or is that just culinary 8781 05:14:50,211 --> 05:14:50,461 the bettertment program is 8782 05:14:52,177 --> 05:14:52,427 countywide and so the people 8783 05:14:54,177 --> 05:14:54,427 that are admitted into that 8784 05:14:55,677 --> 05:14:55,927 program have to go through the 8785 05:14:56,311 --> 05:14:56,561 coordinated entry system. 8786 05:14:59,477 --> 05:14:59,727 and and I guess the thing is 8787 05:15:00,377 --> 05:15:00,627 that you know what I'm trying to 8788 05:15:01,077 --> 05:15:01,327 figure out is you know the 8789 05:15:05,744 --> 05:15:05,994 because it's not a total of 4 8790 05:15:07,644 --> 05:15:07,894 million. it must be split. how 8791 05:15:08,311 --> 05:15:08,561 much is the betterment? 8792 05:15:09,677 --> 05:15:09,927 Is it half? Is it 2 million? 8793 05:15:15,744 --> 05:15:15,994 I believe the betterment is 8794 05:15:17,744 --> 05:15:17,994 the program that receives a 8795 05:15:19,511 --> 05:15:19,761 higher portion of the funding 8796 05:15:20,277 --> 05:15:20,527 I'm sorry I don't have that 8797 05:15:22,311 --> 05:15:22,561 information in my notes but 8798 05:15:23,844 --> 05:15:24,094 we can certainly get back to you 8799 05:15:24,511 --> 05:15:24,761 with that breakdown. 8800 05:15:26,311 --> 05:15:26,561 are you guys receiving any other 8801 05:15:28,011 --> 05:15:28,261 additional funding for adult edd 8802 05:15:28,711 --> 05:15:28,961 or is this the sole 8803 05:15:32,844 --> 05:15:33,094 money that you're receiving for 8804 05:15:33,511 --> 05:15:33,761 adult education. 8805 05:15:42,177 --> 05:15:42,427 Ijamie Sorenson I I think in 8806 05:15:44,211 --> 05:15:44,461 most of our programs whether it 8807 05:15:47,977 --> 05:15:48,227 be extended foster care are 8808 05:15:49,844 --> 05:15:50,094 congregate are noncongregate 8809 05:15:50,511 --> 05:15:50,761 shelters 8810 05:15:53,511 --> 05:15:53,761 our outreach programs there 8811 05:15:55,744 --> 05:15:55,994 is typically a training 8812 05:15:58,244 --> 05:15:58,494 workforce development built into 8813 05:16:01,744 --> 05:16:01,994 all of those programs and so 8814 05:16:03,511 --> 05:16:03,761 there are some federal funds 8815 05:16:04,277 --> 05:16:04,527 applied to those programs as 8816 05:16:07,811 --> 05:16:08,061 well we are trying to position 8817 05:16:09,777 --> 05:16:10,027 people to be in permanent 8818 05:16:12,044 --> 05:16:12,294 housing in some shape or form 8819 05:16:13,777 --> 05:16:14,027 for them to do that they have to 8820 05:16:15,511 --> 05:16:15,761 be either tied to a benefit 8821 05:16:16,311 --> 05:16:16,561 program that supports them or 8822 05:16:18,077 --> 05:16:18,327 they need to be able to generate 8823 05:16:19,844 --> 05:16:20,094 an income and so it's one of the 8824 05:16:20,511 --> 05:16:20,761 pillars of 8825 05:16:23,977 --> 05:16:24,227 kind of the services that we run 8826 05:16:26,011 --> 05:16:26,261 across most of our system so 8827 05:16:26,577 --> 05:16:26,827 you're using you're getting some 8828 05:16:27,244 --> 05:16:27,494 we owe money. 8829 05:16:27,877 --> 05:16:28,127 in short 8830 05:16:29,644 --> 05:16:29,894 no 8831 05:16:35,944 --> 05:16:36,194 chairneal Joannajacob for the 8832 05:16:38,211 --> 05:16:38,461 record I think I think I'd 8833 05:16:40,211 --> 05:16:40,461 like to go back and because 8834 05:16:42,211 --> 05:16:42,461 that's there's a broad number of 8835 05:16:43,977 --> 05:16:44,227 category of funding so when you 8836 05:16:45,744 --> 05:16:45,994 ask if we're receiving any other 8837 05:16:47,977 --> 05:16:48,227 funding I think I wanna go 8838 05:16:49,977 --> 05:16:50,227 back and run that through our 8839 05:16:51,977 --> 05:16:52,227 budget office to find identify 8840 05:16:54,011 --> 05:16:54,261 any other funding sources or 8841 05:16:55,744 --> 05:16:55,994 it's or if it's due to a 8842 05:16:57,511 --> 05:16:57,761 partnership with another 8843 05:16:59,477 --> 05:16:59,727 organization in the community 8844 05:17:00,177 --> 05:17:00,427 we don't we do not have that 8845 05:17:02,244 --> 05:17:02,494 answer for you today so you know 8846 05:17:02,911 --> 05:17:03,161 I keep asking 8847 05:17:05,977 --> 05:17:06,227 about309 money right? I think 8848 05:17:07,977 --> 05:17:08,227 since it came into existence but 8849 05:17:09,777 --> 05:17:10,027 what I'm so since you're going 8850 05:17:10,444 --> 05:17:10,694 to ask a budget of questions 8851 05:17:11,777 --> 05:17:12,027 this is what I want to know 8852 05:17:13,511 --> 05:17:13,761 right because there seems to be 8853 05:17:14,211 --> 05:17:14,461 a duplication so the state 8854 05:17:17,677 --> 05:17:17,927 are allocation for 2526. 8855 05:17:20,511 --> 05:17:20,761 was roughly19 million that we 8856 05:17:21,177 --> 05:17:21,427 gave for adult education. 8857 05:17:25,977 --> 05:17:26,227 so if you're running through the 8858 05:17:27,877 --> 05:17:28,127 combined entry system 8859 05:17:31,744 --> 05:17:31,994 why do you need to be expending 8860 05:17:33,744 --> 05:17:33,994 dollars for something that it's 8861 05:17:35,711 --> 05:17:35,961 already a state allocated fund 8862 05:17:37,511 --> 05:17:37,761 that is going to adult ed that 8863 05:17:38,177 --> 05:17:38,427 is probably dropping into 8864 05:17:43,511 --> 05:17:43,761 the adult edd system that isn't 8865 05:17:44,277 --> 05:17:44,527 that is in Clark County or 8866 05:17:46,277 --> 05:17:46,527 affiliated with CcSd that's the 8867 05:17:46,944 --> 05:17:47,194 thing so if you can 8868 05:17:49,944 --> 05:17:50,194 get that answered because I 8869 05:17:51,777 --> 05:17:52,027 really want to know that I also 8870 05:17:52,444 --> 05:17:52,694 want to know when you're saying 8871 05:17:54,244 --> 05:17:54,494 on truancy that you're going and 8872 05:17:55,711 --> 05:17:55,961 you're like oh you know we went 8873 05:17:57,944 --> 05:17:58,194 and look for kids then then what 8874 05:17:59,944 --> 05:18:00,194 isccSd doing right because they 8875 05:18:02,244 --> 05:18:02,494 brought backccSd reconnect right 8876 05:18:03,511 --> 05:18:03,761 which they just did but under 8877 05:18:04,377 --> 05:18:04,627 the prior superintendent 8878 05:18:08,277 --> 05:18:08,527 I think it wasn'tjarra it was 8879 05:18:11,777 --> 05:18:12,027 the one before that they had 8880 05:18:13,477 --> 05:18:13,727 did the same thing right sos so 8881 05:18:14,444 --> 05:18:14,694 it wasn't new they're just like 8882 05:18:16,311 --> 05:18:16,561 ok soccSd is going to do the 8883 05:18:19,744 --> 05:18:19,994 work of finding kids and looking 8884 05:18:21,477 --> 05:18:21,727 for them in their house and 8885 05:18:23,744 --> 05:18:23,994 saying hey you should come back 8886 05:18:24,444 --> 05:18:24,694 to school today. 8887 05:18:24,844 --> 05:18:25,094 why are we duplicating 8888 05:18:28,211 --> 05:18:28,461 the effort and why are we 8889 05:18:30,211 --> 05:18:30,461 spending sales tax dollars that 8890 05:18:31,977 --> 05:18:32,227 could probably be used towards 8891 05:18:33,711 --> 05:18:33,961 something else. that's the first 8892 05:18:34,444 --> 05:18:34,694 question and you don't have to 8893 05:18:35,977 --> 05:18:36,227 answer it now because we're you 8894 05:18:37,744 --> 05:18:37,994 know we're running out of time 8895 05:18:39,977 --> 05:18:40,227 but I mean legit you guys have 8896 05:18:41,977 --> 05:18:42,227 the sales tax money and you have 8897 05:18:45,477 --> 05:18:45,727 a list of things that I'm like 8898 05:18:46,211 --> 05:18:46,461 I'm not sure if it's something 8899 05:18:47,744 --> 05:18:47,994 you should be doing or if 8900 05:18:49,711 --> 05:18:49,961 there's other money associated 8901 05:18:51,511 --> 05:18:51,761 with that task. you understand 8902 05:18:52,211 --> 05:18:52,461 what I'm saying? and the reason 8903 05:18:54,211 --> 05:18:54,461 probably why I'm harping on this 8904 05:18:55,877 --> 05:18:56,127 is because on one end right we 8905 05:18:56,544 --> 05:18:56,794 have RTc 8906 05:18:58,244 --> 05:18:58,494 it's a still affiliated with the 8907 05:18:59,744 --> 05:18:59,994 county it's part of the county 8908 05:19:01,877 --> 05:19:02,127 it's a political subdivision 8909 05:19:02,544 --> 05:19:02,794 within the county, correct? 8910 05:19:05,611 --> 05:19:05,861 what is RTc to you guys? 8911 05:19:10,144 --> 05:19:10,394 Cheneal it's notsegasneal I 8912 05:19:11,977 --> 05:19:12,227 think I want I should know 8913 05:19:13,977 --> 05:19:14,227 that I should know that Cherneal 8914 05:19:16,311 --> 05:19:16,561 they are I want to say 8915 05:19:17,977 --> 05:19:18,227 affiliated I think there are 8916 05:19:20,244 --> 05:19:20,494 designated multi I think they're 8917 05:19:22,444 --> 05:19:22,694 the planning organization for 8918 05:19:25,477 --> 05:19:25,727 Clark County but what is their 8919 05:19:28,177 --> 05:19:28,427 relationship to us I should I 8920 05:19:30,177 --> 05:19:30,427 guess I would say whether they 8921 05:19:33,477 --> 05:19:33,727 are part I wouldn't say that 8922 05:19:34,077 --> 05:19:34,327 they are separate agency 8923 05:19:35,844 --> 05:19:36,094 thanclark County. they cover 8924 05:19:36,411 --> 05:19:36,661 Clark County as 8925 05:19:40,177 --> 05:19:40,427 the county I'll see if if the 8926 05:19:41,511 --> 05:19:41,761 countyman would like to add 8927 05:19:42,211 --> 05:19:42,461 anything'll just simplify it 8928 05:19:43,744 --> 05:19:43,994 because another member has a 8929 05:19:45,744 --> 05:19:45,994 question there are a series of 8930 05:19:47,777 --> 05:19:48,027 things that you guys are 8931 05:19:48,277 --> 05:19:48,527 spending money on whether or not 8932 05:19:50,244 --> 05:19:50,494 you say you know homelessness 8933 05:19:52,444 --> 05:19:52,694 you know I get it but if there's 8934 05:19:54,144 --> 05:19:54,394 other money that's already being 8935 05:19:54,811 --> 05:19:55,061 used. 8936 05:19:58,144 --> 05:19:58,394 from other sources why are we 8937 05:19:58,811 --> 05:19:59,061 duplicating? 8938 05:20:01,744 --> 05:20:01,994 this sales tax money when there 8939 05:20:02,677 --> 05:20:02,927 are other needs in the county 8940 05:20:08,111 --> 05:20:08,361 that need to be addressed and 8941 05:20:11,711 --> 05:20:11,961 I know that there are 8942 05:20:12,577 --> 05:20:12,827 commissioners who go to this 8943 05:20:13,244 --> 05:20:13,494 fund 8944 05:20:15,977 --> 05:20:16,227 not then be like hey is there 8945 05:20:16,611 --> 05:20:16,861 any309 money can I use it for 8946 05:20:18,177 --> 05:20:18,427 blah blah right 8947 05:20:19,877 --> 05:20:20,127 and 8948 05:20:23,744 --> 05:20:23,994 and I've always called it you 8949 05:20:25,977 --> 05:20:26,227 know some negative term but 8950 05:20:28,011 --> 05:20:28,261 ultimately if if there is 8951 05:20:31,477 --> 05:20:31,727 already money going towards a 8952 05:20:32,277 --> 05:20:32,527 particular thing such as 8953 05:20:35,844 --> 05:20:36,094 whatccSd is supposed to be doing 8954 05:20:36,511 --> 05:20:36,761 with their money 8955 05:20:39,677 --> 05:20:39,927 then why are we duplicating and 8956 05:20:41,977 --> 05:20:42,227 overacting in a space that they 8957 05:20:42,644 --> 05:20:42,894 are supposed to be working in. 8958 05:20:46,211 --> 05:20:46,461 and I feel like that needs to be 8959 05:20:47,977 --> 05:20:48,227 dealt with because if there's if 8960 05:20:50,177 --> 05:20:50,427 if we're if if RTc and and you 8961 05:20:52,211 --> 05:20:52,461 can say like ORTc isn't a part 8962 05:20:54,211 --> 05:20:54,461 of our life but if Rtc is saying 8963 05:20:55,977 --> 05:20:56,227 hey you know we may not be able 8964 05:20:59,511 --> 05:20:59,761 to give rides after 228 or 2029 8965 05:21:01,511 --> 05:21:01,761 but then there's a conversation 8966 05:21:03,777 --> 05:21:04,027 hey don't touch the309 money 8967 05:21:05,977 --> 05:21:06,227 right? don't even it's80 million 8968 05:21:08,211 --> 05:21:08,461 dollars and at no point have we 8969 05:21:10,244 --> 05:21:10,494 ever had a conversation about 8970 05:21:12,377 --> 05:21:12,627 should we reorganize the statute 8971 05:21:13,044 --> 05:21:13,294 from 2019 8972 05:21:18,244 --> 05:21:18,494 and recateegorize what we should 8973 05:21:19,511 --> 05:21:19,761 be using it for because that's 8974 05:21:20,211 --> 05:21:20,461 really what my goal is which is 8975 05:21:23,744 --> 05:21:23,994 is it really you know you can 8976 05:21:25,511 --> 05:21:25,761 keep homelessness in. I'm not 8977 05:21:26,177 --> 05:21:26,427 sure if truancy should be in 8978 05:21:27,977 --> 05:21:28,227 there right and if this is set 8979 05:21:29,711 --> 05:21:29,961 up to pay for the harbor we 8980 05:21:31,477 --> 05:21:31,727 probably need a whole another 8981 05:21:32,111 --> 05:21:32,361 conversation on juvenile justice 8982 05:21:32,777 --> 05:21:33,027 money 8983 05:21:33,027 --> 05:21:33,277 but 8984 05:21:37,477 --> 05:21:37,727 if there are duplicate services 8985 05:21:38,244 --> 05:21:38,494 that are the responsibility of 8986 05:21:41,744 --> 05:21:41,994 some other group that is getting 8987 05:21:43,744 --> 05:21:43,994 taxpayer money why are we 8988 05:21:44,444 --> 05:21:44,694 overlaying it with some sub 8989 05:21:45,944 --> 05:21:46,194 effort that they actually should 8990 05:21:46,644 --> 05:21:46,894 be doing. 8991 05:21:49,977 --> 05:21:50,227 and just reorganize go back in 8992 05:21:51,711 --> 05:21:51,961 and I want you to really think 8993 05:21:52,477 --> 05:21:52,727 about this. go back in and 8994 05:21:56,244 --> 05:21:56,494 change377d present a bill or I 8995 05:21:58,011 --> 05:21:58,261 present it for you and say hey 8996 05:21:59,744 --> 05:21:59,994 this is the new category because 8997 05:22:00,444 --> 05:22:00,694 you know I already tried that 8998 05:22:02,211 --> 05:22:02,461 right and you guys were like oh 8999 05:22:03,977 --> 05:22:04,227 don't touch my money and I was 9000 05:22:04,677 --> 05:22:04,927 just like I'm not sure it is 9001 05:22:05,677 --> 05:22:05,927 your money it's taxpayer money. 9002 05:22:09,744 --> 05:22:09,994 for the record, Kevinchiller 9003 05:22:10,544 --> 05:22:10,794 county manager to 9004 05:22:14,011 --> 05:22:14,261 somewhat directly answer your 9005 05:22:15,744 --> 05:22:15,994 question and I think I'll I'll 9006 05:22:16,411 --> 05:22:16,661 reference back to the initial 9007 05:22:17,077 --> 05:22:17,327 slides so 9008 05:22:19,944 --> 05:22:20,194 I showed you the bar graph where 9009 05:22:21,744 --> 05:22:21,994 the expenditures are exceeding 9010 05:22:23,977 --> 05:22:24,227 the revenues. OK so by default 9011 05:22:25,744 --> 05:22:25,994 there's going to be a triage at 9012 05:22:27,477 --> 05:22:27,727 some point related to those 9013 05:22:29,477 --> 05:22:29,727 services and related to who 9014 05:22:30,211 --> 05:22:30,461 we're serving so to your point 9015 05:22:31,944 --> 05:22:32,194 on your question of duplication, 9016 05:22:33,711 --> 05:22:33,961 I won't argue with you a second 9017 05:22:35,477 --> 05:22:35,727 about the duplication of 9018 05:22:36,411 --> 05:22:36,661 services if there's funding 9019 05:22:36,944 --> 05:22:37,194 coming in 9020 05:22:39,944 --> 05:22:40,194 and we're duplicating that 9021 05:22:41,477 --> 05:22:41,727 service we should be able to 9022 05:22:43,711 --> 05:22:43,961 give you that answer. The only 9023 05:22:45,477 --> 05:22:45,727 caution I have for you is when 9024 05:22:46,111 --> 05:22:46,361 we triage those services and you 9025 05:22:48,144 --> 05:22:48,394 look at this as a collective 9026 05:22:50,177 --> 05:22:50,427 service continuum there are 9027 05:22:51,944 --> 05:22:52,194 there are waterfall effects and 9028 05:22:53,711 --> 05:22:53,961 domino effects tied to different 9029 05:22:55,911 --> 05:22:56,161 components so I think we're 9030 05:22:57,744 --> 05:22:57,994 happy to come back to you with 9031 05:22:59,477 --> 05:22:59,727 exactly what our generated 9032 05:23:01,477 --> 05:23:01,727 funding revenues look like in 9033 05:23:02,144 --> 05:23:02,394 those specific categories so you 9034 05:23:03,977 --> 05:23:04,227 can see where those dollars are 9035 05:23:05,944 --> 05:23:06,194 being generated from or passing 9036 05:23:06,677 --> 05:23:06,927 through to us or not passing 9037 05:23:07,244 --> 05:23:07,494 through to us 9038 05:23:09,711 --> 05:23:09,961 and also the programmatic 9039 05:23:10,277 --> 05:23:10,527 relationship between the 9040 05:23:10,811 --> 05:23:11,061 entities 9041 05:23:13,511 --> 05:23:13,761 so I'm just gonna to use truancy 9042 05:23:15,677 --> 05:23:15,927 as the example we can look at 9043 05:23:17,711 --> 05:23:17,961 that and we can tell you what 9044 05:23:18,344 --> 05:23:18,594 lane is the school district in 9045 05:23:20,111 --> 05:23:20,361 what lane were we in? I know on 9046 05:23:22,144 --> 05:23:22,394 the initial drafting of teapop 9047 05:23:24,144 --> 05:23:24,394 and when that initially started 9048 05:23:25,711 --> 05:23:25,961 there was a coordinated effort 9049 05:23:27,477 --> 05:23:27,727 between whose efforts were doing 9050 05:23:29,744 --> 05:23:29,994 what in those categories but I'm 9051 05:23:31,477 --> 05:23:31,727 certainly happy to do that 9052 05:23:32,011 --> 05:23:32,261 because if we have to triage 9053 05:23:33,711 --> 05:23:33,961 services we don't want to be 9054 05:23:35,944 --> 05:23:36,194 duplicating dollars anyway so 9055 05:23:36,611 --> 05:23:36,861 happy to put that on the record. 9056 05:23:42,544 --> 05:23:42,794 assemblyman toil oh who 9057 05:23:43,111 --> 05:23:43,361 similarly onemosca 9058 05:23:47,477 --> 05:23:47,727 thank you so much chair and 9059 05:23:48,044 --> 05:23:48,294 thank you I'm sorry if I missed 9060 05:23:49,711 --> 05:23:49,961 it you know here in east Las 9061 05:23:50,277 --> 05:23:50,527 Vegas of course homelessness is 9062 05:23:51,944 --> 05:23:52,194 the number one issue that we 9063 05:23:53,711 --> 05:23:53,961 hear about and I know of all 9064 05:23:55,711 --> 05:23:55,961 your efforts and keeping us 9065 05:23:57,711 --> 05:23:57,961 updatedunhaven here right here 9066 05:23:59,977 --> 05:24:00,227 on the east side I think it's 9067 05:24:01,677 --> 05:24:01,927 going well because it's perman s 9068 05:24:03,711 --> 05:24:03,961 permanent supportive housing can 9069 05:24:04,377 --> 05:24:04,627 you talk about what is the 9070 05:24:06,144 --> 05:24:06,394 funding structure that is being 9071 05:24:08,311 --> 05:24:08,561 used that allows folks to stay 9072 05:24:08,977 --> 05:24:09,227 there ongoing 9073 05:24:11,944 --> 05:24:12,194 and what we need to do to 9074 05:24:13,511 --> 05:24:13,761 increase it or where is that 9075 05:24:14,144 --> 05:24:14,394 coming from so we could 9076 05:24:14,711 --> 05:24:14,961 duplicate it 9077 05:24:18,244 --> 05:24:18,494 Joannajacob for the record we 9078 05:24:22,011 --> 05:24:22,261 just I believe Chaneal the 9079 05:24:23,544 --> 05:24:23,794 assemblyman must got cut out 9080 05:24:24,277 --> 05:24:24,527 just as she was telling us the 9081 05:24:26,011 --> 05:24:26,261 name of the location that she 9082 05:24:27,744 --> 05:24:27,994 was asking about so could I ask 9083 05:24:29,544 --> 05:24:29,794 if assemblyman masca could 9084 05:24:31,544 --> 05:24:31,794 you repeat that just so we can 9085 05:24:32,177 --> 05:24:32,427 we can answer your question 9086 05:24:34,211 --> 05:24:34,461 at sunhaven at the one right 9087 05:24:34,811 --> 05:24:35,061 here 9088 05:24:35,944 --> 05:24:36,194 the ovation one 9089 05:24:38,211 --> 05:24:38,461 ovation 9090 05:24:40,077 --> 05:24:40,327 the the sunhaven 9091 05:24:44,244 --> 05:24:44,494 yes joannajacobs for the 9092 05:24:47,511 --> 05:24:47,761 record I think ovation ovation 9093 05:24:50,011 --> 05:24:50,261 partnership is funded through I 9094 05:24:52,277 --> 05:24:52,527 believe and I will want to go 9095 05:24:55,744 --> 05:24:55,994 back and confirm but the 9096 05:24:57,777 --> 05:24:58,027 ovation is a partner of our 9097 05:24:59,744 --> 05:24:59,994 community housing office and the 9098 05:25:02,244 --> 05:25:02,494 funding source is a is our 9099 05:25:04,011 --> 05:25:04,261 community land trust programs 9100 05:25:05,744 --> 05:25:05,994 that runs through our director 9101 05:25:07,777 --> 05:25:08,027 Dagney Stapleton. the funding 9102 05:25:10,044 --> 05:25:10,294 source originally on that bucket 9103 05:25:10,677 --> 05:25:10,927 of money was 9104 05:25:13,744 --> 05:25:13,994 funding it was actuallyARS A 9105 05:25:15,744 --> 05:25:15,994 funding because our loss due to 9106 05:25:18,211 --> 05:25:18,461 covid exceeded like we were able 9107 05:25:20,244 --> 05:25:20,494 to file under the treasury rules 9108 05:25:22,011 --> 05:25:22,261 at that time for revenue loss 9109 05:25:24,011 --> 05:25:24,261 for our community and then we 9110 05:25:26,077 --> 05:25:26,327 put it into Clark County we've 9111 05:25:26,744 --> 05:25:26,994 trans 9112 05:25:29,944 --> 05:25:30,194 we were able to move it into 9113 05:25:31,477 --> 05:25:31,727 Clark County general Fund and 9114 05:25:33,511 --> 05:25:33,761 with that funding we were able 9115 05:25:34,211 --> 05:25:34,461 to because a lot of other 9116 05:25:36,011 --> 05:25:36,261 entities took it for their 9117 05:25:37,744 --> 05:25:37,994 general fund we were able to 9118 05:25:39,711 --> 05:25:39,961 move that into the funding that 9119 05:25:40,411 --> 05:25:40,661 set up our community housing 9120 05:25:42,477 --> 05:25:42,727 office and set up our community 9121 05:25:45,544 --> 05:25:45,794 land trust and and a lot of 9122 05:25:46,244 --> 05:25:46,494 programs are funded through that 9123 05:25:47,711 --> 05:25:47,961 office and with that funding 9124 05:25:49,977 --> 05:25:50,227 source I see countyman it wants 9125 05:25:53,477 --> 05:25:53,727 to add an additional note for 9126 05:25:54,077 --> 05:25:54,327 the record Kevin Scher county 9127 05:25:55,511 --> 05:25:55,761 manager just to give you a 9128 05:25:56,144 --> 05:25:56,394 direct answer 9129 05:25:59,944 --> 05:26:00,194 joanna's explanation is correct. 9130 05:26:01,977 --> 05:26:02,227 we freed up dollars that 9131 05:26:03,777 --> 05:26:04,027 we're able to invest into our 9132 05:26:06,211 --> 05:26:06,461 community housing fund but that 9133 05:26:07,744 --> 05:26:07,994 program and other programs where 9134 05:26:09,511 --> 05:26:09,761 we've been able to stand up that 9135 05:26:10,244 --> 05:26:10,494 housing has all been lasagna 9136 05:26:12,444 --> 05:26:12,694 layered so in some instances it 9137 05:26:13,977 --> 05:26:14,227 may involve state housing funds 9138 05:26:15,744 --> 05:26:15,994 that you all are approving and 9139 05:26:17,977 --> 05:26:18,227 those come in to us we may we we 9140 05:26:20,211 --> 05:26:20,461 basically layer that funding so 9141 05:26:21,977 --> 05:26:22,227 we can get more projects on the 9142 05:26:22,711 --> 05:26:22,961 street of similar fashion. 9143 05:26:31,977 --> 05:26:32,227 OK well that closes it out 9144 05:26:33,511 --> 05:26:33,761 thank you guys for coming with 9145 05:26:34,177 --> 05:26:34,427 the presentation we'll 9146 05:26:34,644 --> 05:26:34,894 definitely talk offline 9147 05:26:39,711 --> 05:26:39,961 we will now close this 9148 05:26:40,311 --> 05:26:40,561 presentation on 9149 05:26:42,444 --> 05:26:42,694 close presentation numbers 9150 05:26:46,411 --> 05:26:46,661 and then we'll move to number 9 9151 05:26:50,244 --> 05:26:50,494 and then after that work session 9152 05:26:58,244 --> 05:26:58,494 we need to try to do Mr Nakamoto 9153 05:27:00,011 --> 05:27:00,261 after the property tax we need 9154 05:27:02,011 --> 05:27:02,261 to try to do work session and 9155 05:27:04,277 --> 05:27:04,527 then with folks are not here we 9156 05:27:04,977 --> 05:27:05,227 can do the year to date 9157 05:27:05,511 --> 05:27:05,761 collection. 9158 05:27:19,777 --> 05:27:20,027 OK so just to give a little 9159 05:27:20,344 --> 05:27:20,594 background even though you guys 9160 05:27:21,744 --> 05:27:21,994 are like why are we doing 9161 05:27:23,944 --> 05:27:24,194 property tax last hour anyway 9162 05:27:29,744 --> 05:27:29,994 in 2022 we did this presentation 9163 05:27:31,477 --> 05:27:31,727 the reason why I was bringing it 9164 05:27:32,211 --> 05:27:32,461 back because there was 9165 05:27:35,477 --> 05:27:35,727 conversation politically about 9166 05:27:36,211 --> 05:27:36,461 oh we should bring back a 9167 05:27:37,977 --> 05:27:38,227 property tax study and I'm just 9168 05:27:40,077 --> 05:27:40,327 like no we shouldn't 9169 05:27:42,444 --> 05:27:42,694 that the questions that are 9170 05:27:44,277 --> 05:27:44,527 being asked and answered were 9171 05:27:47,744 --> 05:27:47,994 already in the 2022 record so we 9172 05:27:49,744 --> 05:27:49,994 are now putting it back into the 9173 05:27:51,944 --> 05:27:52,194 record for 2026 so the new sets 9174 05:27:53,744 --> 05:27:53,994 of legislators can like have 9175 05:27:55,511 --> 05:27:55,761 this information in the toolkit 9176 05:27:57,744 --> 05:27:57,994 and say oh well this is this 9177 05:28:00,011 --> 05:28:00,261 will be option A through h 9178 05:28:01,511 --> 05:28:01,761 whether or not it's feasible or 9179 05:28:03,511 --> 05:28:03,761 not feasible is the political 9180 05:28:05,977 --> 05:28:06,227 decision but ultimately to 9181 05:28:06,611 --> 05:28:06,861 prevent another bill coming 9182 05:28:08,011 --> 05:28:08,261 through the legislature saying 9183 05:28:09,844 --> 05:28:10,094 oh we should do a study no we 9184 05:28:12,477 --> 05:28:12,727 already have the answerjeremy 9185 05:28:14,277 --> 05:28:14,527 aguero did a study like I think 9186 05:28:17,744 --> 05:28:17,994 2015 then there was another one 9187 05:28:20,244 --> 05:28:20,494 later we did want we did a whole 9188 05:28:22,011 --> 05:28:22,261 analysis and so I'm putting it 9189 05:28:23,511 --> 05:28:23,761 back on the record for that 9190 05:28:24,477 --> 05:28:24,727 reason. We should not spend 9191 05:28:25,711 --> 05:28:25,961 another hot dime OK? 9192 05:28:29,511 --> 05:28:29,761 or six pennies on another 9193 05:28:31,477 --> 05:28:31,727 property tax study because we 9194 05:28:32,277 --> 05:28:32,527 know what the answer is we just 9195 05:28:34,011 --> 05:28:34,261 don't politically want to do any 9196 05:28:36,477 --> 05:28:36,727 of these solutions so that's 9197 05:28:37,744 --> 05:28:37,994 where it is that's why we're 9198 05:28:39,511 --> 05:28:39,761 doing this presentation it's 9199 05:28:41,777 --> 05:28:42,027 purely educational we don't you 9200 05:28:43,744 --> 05:28:43,994 can ask questions you cannot ask 9201 05:28:46,044 --> 05:28:46,294 questions but I know that for 9202 05:28:47,744 --> 05:28:47,994 the future you can't be like it 9203 05:28:49,511 --> 05:28:49,761 doesn't exist it will be in the 9204 05:28:51,511 --> 05:28:51,761 record for the future. Thank you 9205 05:28:52,244 --> 05:28:52,494 Mr Nakamoto. you go. 9206 05:28:55,711 --> 05:28:55,961 thank you madam chairirmi 9207 05:28:57,511 --> 05:28:57,761 Nakamoto with fiscal analysis 9208 05:28:58,211 --> 05:28:58,461 division for the record did you 9209 05:28:59,877 --> 05:29:00,127 just do my presentation for me 9210 05:29:08,011 --> 05:29:08,261 no 9211 05:29:11,744 --> 05:29:11,994 no she did not thank you 9212 05:29:14,277 --> 05:29:14,527 madam chair all of the 9213 05:29:16,244 --> 05:29:16,494 members and they are on the 9214 05:29:18,244 --> 05:29:18,494 the committee's page our website 9215 05:29:20,311 --> 05:29:20,561 for this meeting have a stack of 9216 05:29:22,077 --> 05:29:22,327 documents that we put together 9217 05:29:24,344 --> 05:29:24,594 this started as a fairly simple 9218 05:29:26,344 --> 05:29:26,594 request from the chair to go 9219 05:29:28,311 --> 05:29:28,561 through some scenarios on 9220 05:29:30,311 --> 05:29:30,561 changes to property tax or 9221 05:29:31,544 --> 05:29:31,794 potential changes to property 9222 05:29:34,311 --> 05:29:34,561 tax and as time went on it kind 9223 05:29:35,677 --> 05:29:35,927 of grew I 9224 05:29:38,277 --> 05:29:38,527 don't plan on going through all 9225 05:29:39,977 --> 05:29:40,227 I think it's53 pages that I put 9226 05:29:42,044 --> 05:29:42,294 together because nobody has time 9227 05:29:42,711 --> 05:29:42,961 or patience to listen to me that 9228 05:29:43,411 --> 05:29:43,661 long 9229 05:29:46,277 --> 05:29:46,527 but I do want to spend a little 9230 05:29:48,011 --> 05:29:48,261 bit of time walking through 9231 05:29:49,744 --> 05:29:49,994 everything just to kind of set 9232 05:29:52,311 --> 05:29:52,561 the stage and so what I have 9233 05:29:54,011 --> 05:29:54,261 up on the screen now and it has 9234 05:29:56,011 --> 05:29:56,261 shown up it's table one and this 9235 05:29:58,044 --> 05:29:58,294 is the the fir the good place to 9236 05:30:00,277 --> 05:30:00,527 start and basically this lays 9237 05:30:02,277 --> 05:30:02,527 out line by line how property 9238 05:30:04,077 --> 05:30:04,327 tax works in the state of Nevada 9239 05:30:04,811 --> 05:30:05,061 we have 9240 05:30:09,511 --> 05:30:09,761 to put it kindly a rather 9241 05:30:12,011 --> 05:30:12,261 complicated system as it relates 9242 05:30:14,044 --> 05:30:14,294 to property tax. of many 9243 05:30:16,277 --> 05:30:16,527 states do something relating to 9244 05:30:19,477 --> 05:30:19,727 the market value or cash value 9245 05:30:21,777 --> 05:30:22,027 of of property and that's how 9246 05:30:23,744 --> 05:30:23,994 you base the property tax on 9247 05:30:25,544 --> 05:30:25,794 you apply a rate to that cash 9248 05:30:27,811 --> 05:30:28,061 value. how that grows or what 9249 05:30:29,811 --> 05:30:30,061 goes into that it can vary from 9250 05:30:31,744 --> 05:30:31,994 state to state umnevada though 9251 05:30:35,511 --> 05:30:35,761 does not do a full cash value on 9252 05:30:36,177 --> 05:30:36,427 the property they 9253 05:30:38,044 --> 05:30:38,294 have a we have a different 9254 05:30:40,011 --> 05:30:40,261 system here and so this table 9255 05:30:43,544 --> 05:30:43,794 table one is walking through 9256 05:30:44,311 --> 05:30:44,561 using three different fiscal 9257 05:30:46,277 --> 05:30:46,527 years for an actual single 9258 05:30:48,277 --> 05:30:48,527 family owner occupied home that 9259 05:30:50,277 --> 05:30:50,527 is located in the city of Reno 9260 05:30:52,277 --> 05:30:52,527 and I know this because it's my 9261 05:30:54,311 --> 05:30:54,561 house and I figured this was the 9262 05:30:55,777 --> 05:30:56,027 easiest way to explain it. I 9263 05:30:57,511 --> 05:30:57,761 will go to the assessor's 9264 05:30:58,244 --> 05:30:58,494 website in fact, I had to 9265 05:31:00,044 --> 05:31:00,294 contact the assessor to get some 9266 05:31:02,044 --> 05:31:02,294 information but I'm walking 9267 05:31:03,811 --> 05:31:04,061 through step by step how the 9268 05:31:05,844 --> 05:31:06,094 assessment of property tax on my 9269 05:31:06,544 --> 05:31:06,794 house works. 9270 05:31:10,211 --> 05:31:10,461 and so one what I basically 9271 05:31:12,277 --> 05:31:12,527 started with is how the first 9272 05:31:14,011 --> 05:31:14,261 thing you actually have to start 9273 05:31:15,977 --> 05:31:16,227 with is determining the value of 9274 05:31:18,244 --> 05:31:18,494 the house and so I I mentioned 9275 05:31:20,477 --> 05:31:20,727 in other states thator I think 9276 05:31:21,977 --> 05:31:22,227 is a good example. You use the 9277 05:31:23,744 --> 05:31:23,994 market value or the full cash 9278 05:31:26,011 --> 05:31:26,261 value of the property to 9279 05:31:27,744 --> 05:31:27,994 determine what the property tax 9280 05:31:30,211 --> 05:31:30,461 is. Nevada we do that but only 9281 05:31:32,477 --> 05:31:32,727 for the land. so the land that 9282 05:31:34,277 --> 05:31:34,527 the property or that your parcel 9283 05:31:35,877 --> 05:31:36,127 that you own that your house or 9284 05:31:36,577 --> 05:31:36,827 whatever improvement 9285 05:31:39,511 --> 05:31:39,761 that you have that sits on is 9286 05:31:41,511 --> 05:31:41,761 based on the full cash value and 9287 05:31:45,777 --> 05:31:46,027 so in Nrs361227 subsection 9288 05:31:47,977 --> 05:31:48,227 one paragraph a it's it lays out 9289 05:31:50,244 --> 05:31:50,494 full cash value and if it's an 9290 05:31:52,011 --> 05:31:52,261 improved parcel it is for the 9291 05:31:54,277 --> 05:31:54,527 use to which it's being put if 9292 05:31:56,244 --> 05:31:56,494 it is a vacant parcel, it is the 9293 05:31:58,211 --> 05:31:58,461 highest and best use that could 9294 05:32:00,211 --> 05:32:00,461 be used so if it's 9295 05:32:02,244 --> 05:32:02,494 agricultural land it is assessed 9296 05:32:04,277 --> 05:32:04,527 as agricultural use for my house 9297 05:32:05,844 --> 05:32:06,094 it is a single family parcel so 9298 05:32:09,777 --> 05:32:10,027 it is a is based as such at 9299 05:32:11,744 --> 05:32:11,994 its full cash value that is what 9300 05:32:14,244 --> 05:32:14,494 it would sell for and so the 9301 05:32:15,977 --> 05:32:16,227 what the assessor has to 9302 05:32:17,744 --> 05:32:17,994 determine is what is known as 9303 05:32:19,744 --> 05:32:19,994 the taxable value of the parcel. 9304 05:32:21,744 --> 05:32:21,994 so you can see in line one the 9305 05:32:24,244 --> 05:32:24,494 the values that were given to my 9306 05:32:27,511 --> 05:32:27,761 parcel based on the the full 9307 05:32:29,977 --> 05:32:30,227 cash value for fy s 2025 through 9308 05:32:30,644 --> 05:32:30,894 Fy2027. 9309 05:32:35,477 --> 05:32:35,727 on line three you can see 9310 05:32:37,777 --> 05:32:38,027 something noted as improvements 9311 05:32:39,744 --> 05:32:39,994 less depreciation and this is 9312 05:32:42,044 --> 05:32:42,294 where property tax deviates in 9313 05:32:44,077 --> 05:32:44,327 Nevada compared to other states 9314 05:32:46,277 --> 05:32:46,527 rather than you know having your 9315 05:32:49,477 --> 05:32:49,727 improvements assessed at the 9316 05:32:50,277 --> 05:32:50,527 full cash value or the market 9317 05:32:52,277 --> 05:32:52,527 value of the improvement. it 9318 05:32:54,311 --> 05:32:54,561 is based on replacement cost 9319 05:32:56,311 --> 05:32:56,561 that is what it would cost to 9320 05:32:59,777 --> 05:33:00,027 build a similar structure based 9321 05:33:00,477 --> 05:33:00,727 on whatever is part 9322 05:33:04,277 --> 05:33:04,527 of that house, so my house is a 9323 05:33:07,511 --> 05:33:07,761 split level, it has 3 bedrooms,3 9324 05:33:09,777 --> 05:33:10,027 bathrooms, all kinds of 9325 05:33:10,511 --> 05:33:10,761 things that actually has a roof 9326 05:33:11,711 --> 05:33:11,961 a detached garage 9327 05:33:14,277 --> 05:33:14,527 anything that a house would 9328 05:33:17,544 --> 05:33:17,794 have there is a manual that gets 9329 05:33:18,277 --> 05:33:18,527 used by each of the county 9330 05:33:20,011 --> 05:33:20,261 assessors it's the marshall and 9331 05:33:22,244 --> 05:33:22,494 Swift cost handbook and this 9332 05:33:24,277 --> 05:33:24,527 book goes through and and talks 9333 05:33:26,244 --> 05:33:26,494 about for any feature that your 9334 05:33:28,244 --> 05:33:28,494 house may have based on what is 9335 05:33:29,777 --> 05:33:30,027 there and what the quality is of 9336 05:33:32,277 --> 05:33:32,527 it what it would cost to build 9337 05:33:35,777 --> 05:33:36,027 something comparable right now 9338 05:33:38,044 --> 05:33:38,294 and so that is what the assessor 9339 05:33:40,011 --> 05:33:40,261 is determined to or is required 9340 05:33:41,877 --> 05:33:42,127 to do for each parcel in their 9341 05:33:42,544 --> 05:33:42,794 count 9342 05:33:45,977 --> 05:33:46,227 y all across the state of 9343 05:33:47,544 --> 05:33:47,794 Nevada. then what they are 9344 05:33:49,777 --> 05:33:50,027 supposed to do is reduce that 9345 05:33:52,244 --> 05:33:52,494 amount by depreciation in 9346 05:33:55,744 --> 05:33:55,994 that in subsexual or par 9347 05:33:58,011 --> 05:33:58,261 subsection b or paragraph B of 9348 05:34:00,277 --> 05:34:00,527 subsection one of NRS361.227. 9349 05:34:02,044 --> 05:34:02,294 they reduced the replacement 9350 05:34:05,777 --> 05:34:06,027 costs of the improvements by1.5% 9351 05:34:08,277 --> 05:34:08,527 per year up to5y years based on 9352 05:34:10,544 --> 05:34:10,794 the age of the house. My house 9353 05:34:11,844 --> 05:34:12,094 was built in1966 9354 05:34:16,277 --> 05:34:16,527 so it it we are past 50 years so 9355 05:34:18,044 --> 05:34:18,294 my house is fully depreciated 9356 05:34:22,011 --> 05:34:22,261 under this law. so75% or1.5% 9357 05:34:25,744 --> 05:34:25,994 times 50 years75% of the value 9358 05:34:27,744 --> 05:34:27,994 of the replacement costs the 9359 05:34:29,711 --> 05:34:29,961 improvements is taken off in 9360 05:34:30,277 --> 05:34:30,527 terms of 9361 05:34:33,811 --> 05:34:34,061 determining the taxable value of 9362 05:34:37,777 --> 05:34:38,027 my parcel so you can see in line 9363 05:34:39,511 --> 05:34:39,761 five that's the replacement cost 9364 05:34:40,277 --> 05:34:40,527 that was determined by the 9365 05:34:43,544 --> 05:34:43,794 county assessor in linene seven 9366 05:34:45,777 --> 05:34:46,027 you can see the75% depreciation 9367 05:34:47,511 --> 05:34:47,761 factor because my house is60 9368 05:34:50,011 --> 05:34:50,261 years old and then you 9369 05:34:52,277 --> 05:34:52,527 multiply the linene five by 9370 05:34:54,077 --> 05:34:54,327 linenese and that is the full 9371 05:34:55,644 --> 05:34:55,894 depreciation is linene eight 9372 05:34:59,744 --> 05:34:59,994 and so then linene five minus 9373 05:35:02,011 --> 05:35:02,261 line8 is what you get for the 9374 05:35:03,911 --> 05:35:04,161 improvements less depreciation 9375 05:35:04,577 --> 05:35:04,827 on line3. 9376 05:35:08,011 --> 05:35:08,261 and so when the taxable value of 9377 05:35:09,677 --> 05:35:09,927 the parcel is determined 9378 05:35:14,011 --> 05:35:14,261 before and after depreciation 9379 05:35:16,011 --> 05:35:16,261 that's what you see on linenes11 9380 05:35:18,244 --> 05:35:18,494 and line 13 and so it's linene 9381 05:35:20,211 --> 05:35:20,461 13 that really matters for 9382 05:35:22,244 --> 05:35:22,494 determining the property tax 9383 05:35:24,244 --> 05:35:24,494 bill because depreciation is 9384 05:35:26,511 --> 05:35:26,761 factored out. So when you add 9385 05:35:29,511 --> 05:35:29,761 lines one and three you get line 9386 05:35:31,777 --> 05:35:32,027 13 and that is ultimately the 9387 05:35:34,011 --> 05:35:34,261 value to which the taxable value 9388 05:35:36,011 --> 05:35:36,261 to which the property tax would 9389 05:35:38,244 --> 05:35:38,494 apply. Property tax however is 9390 05:35:40,111 --> 05:35:40,361 not based on taxable value in 9391 05:35:40,777 --> 05:35:41,027 Nevada it is based on 9392 05:35:45,744 --> 05:35:45,994 assessed value and NrS361.225 9393 05:35:47,744 --> 05:35:47,994 says that your assessed value 9394 05:35:51,477 --> 05:35:51,727 is35% of your taxable value. so 9395 05:35:55,477 --> 05:35:55,727 then when you take line 13 the 9396 05:35:56,511 --> 05:35:56,761 total taxable value after 9397 05:35:59,511 --> 05:35:59,761 depreciation multiply it by35%. 9398 05:36:01,777 --> 05:36:02,027 you get the amounts on line 15 9399 05:36:03,977 --> 05:36:04,227 which is the assessed value to 9400 05:36:05,977 --> 05:36:06,227 which the tax rate would apply 9401 05:36:09,777 --> 05:36:10,027 in the city of Reno the tax 9402 05:36:10,344 --> 05:36:10,594 or the tax rate is3 dollars 9403 05:36:14,244 --> 05:36:14,494 66 cents per $100 of assessed 9404 05:36:16,244 --> 05:36:16,494 value. this is the statutory 9405 05:36:18,244 --> 05:36:18,494 maxim. the statutory maximum is 9406 05:36:21,744 --> 05:36:21,994 actually3 dollars64 cents per 9407 05:36:24,244 --> 05:36:24,494 $100 of assessed value unless a 9408 05:36:26,211 --> 05:36:26,461 higher amount is approved by law 9409 05:36:27,777 --> 05:36:28,027 and the legislature has done 9410 05:36:29,777 --> 05:36:30,027 that there is an additional 2 9411 05:36:31,777 --> 05:36:32,027 cents that's levied in all17 9412 05:36:33,777 --> 05:36:34,027 counties on every parcel that 9413 05:36:35,977 --> 05:36:36,227 goes to pay state bonds and and 9414 05:36:37,977 --> 05:36:38,227 the legislature approves this in 9415 05:36:39,777 --> 05:36:40,027 the capitalpitalroment bill that 9416 05:36:40,444 --> 05:36:40,694 is passed at the end of each 9417 05:36:41,111 --> 05:36:41,361 legislative s 9418 05:36:44,011 --> 05:36:44,261 es sion so this makes the de 9419 05:36:44,577 --> 05:36:44,827 facto maximum 9420 05:36:48,244 --> 05:36:48,494 property tax rate3 dollars66 9421 05:36:50,044 --> 05:36:50,294 cents per $100 of assessed value 9422 05:36:51,777 --> 05:36:52,027 and that is the rate that 9423 05:36:54,044 --> 05:36:54,294 applies to my house and so in 9424 05:36:56,077 --> 05:36:56,327 the statute and this is how it 9425 05:36:58,244 --> 05:36:58,494 would apply for a new parcel you 9426 05:37:00,211 --> 05:37:00,461 take the assessed value 9427 05:37:02,277 --> 05:37:02,527 multiply it by the3 dollars66 9428 05:37:04,044 --> 05:37:04,294 cents for whatever your tax rate 9429 05:37:06,277 --> 05:37:06,527 is and then divide it by100 and 9430 05:37:08,277 --> 05:37:08,527 then what comes out of that is 9431 05:37:10,277 --> 05:37:10,527 what the tax should be and that 9432 05:37:12,011 --> 05:37:12,261 will actually shows up on line 9433 05:37:13,811 --> 05:37:14,061 22 here if you do that 9434 05:37:14,277 --> 05:37:14,527 calculation in Fy 9435 05:37:19,511 --> 05:37:19,761 2027 my bill would be3327 9436 05:37:20,077 --> 05:37:20,327 dollars 9437 05:37:23,511 --> 05:37:23,761 but back in the 2005 session and 9438 05:37:26,011 --> 05:37:26,261 starting in Fy2007 we have 9439 05:37:28,244 --> 05:37:28,494 abatements on tax on property 9440 05:37:31,511 --> 05:37:31,761 taxes that say depending on the 9441 05:37:33,811 --> 05:37:34,061 type of property that you have 9442 05:37:35,777 --> 05:37:36,027 your tax bill can only go up by 9443 05:37:39,511 --> 05:37:39,761 a certain amount and so what 9444 05:37:41,511 --> 05:37:41,761 that percentage is depends on 9445 05:37:43,811 --> 05:37:44,061 the type of property it is for a 9446 05:37:44,477 --> 05:37:44,727 single family owner occupied 9447 05:37:45,144 --> 05:37:45,394 home 9448 05:37:48,477 --> 05:37:48,727 in in this case this house is my 9449 05:37:50,011 --> 05:37:50,261 single family owner occupied 9450 05:37:52,244 --> 05:37:52,494 home. it is my only residence in 9451 05:37:53,977 --> 05:37:54,227 the state of Nevada unless you 9452 05:37:54,644 --> 05:37:54,894 count my office during a 9453 05:37:55,211 --> 05:37:55,461 legislative session 9454 05:37:59,511 --> 05:37:59,761 but I I don't own that one. I 9455 05:38:00,211 --> 05:38:00,461 actually do own this parcel. it 9456 05:38:03,511 --> 05:38:03,761 is my family's only home in 9457 05:38:05,744 --> 05:38:05,994 Nevada and we have made that 9458 05:38:08,011 --> 05:38:08,261 attestation to the Washoe 9459 05:38:10,244 --> 05:38:10,494 County assessor and therefore I 9460 05:38:11,777 --> 05:38:12,027 am eligible for an abatement 9461 05:38:14,044 --> 05:38:14,294 that says that my tax bill can 9462 05:38:17,777 --> 05:38:18,027 only go up by3% above what the 9463 05:38:21,511 --> 05:38:21,761 prior year's tax bill was unless 9464 05:38:22,277 --> 05:38:22,527 there's some sort of improvement 9465 05:38:24,044 --> 05:38:24,294 that's made to my property in 9466 05:38:24,677 --> 05:38:24,927 which case that comes on at the 9467 05:38:25,344 --> 05:38:25,594 full value. 9468 05:38:29,977 --> 05:38:30,227 that3% cap also applies to 9469 05:38:32,011 --> 05:38:32,261 eligible residential rental 9470 05:38:35,744 --> 05:38:35,994 properties. so if you or anybody 9471 05:38:37,711 --> 05:38:37,961 is renting out a house and the 9472 05:38:39,477 --> 05:38:39,727 rent that you charge to your 9473 05:38:41,511 --> 05:38:41,761 tenants is at or below the fair 9474 05:38:43,811 --> 05:38:44,061 market rents for that local e 9475 05:38:45,511 --> 05:38:45,761 as established by the department 9476 05:38:46,277 --> 05:38:46,527 of Housing and Urban Development 9477 05:38:46,977 --> 05:38:47,227 you also are of 9478 05:38:51,477 --> 05:38:51,727 eligible for the3% cap so your 9479 05:38:53,744 --> 05:38:53,994 tax can only go up by3% over the 9480 05:38:55,744 --> 05:38:55,994 prior year. Any other property 9481 05:38:57,777 --> 05:38:58,027 whether it's residential or 9482 05:38:59,511 --> 05:38:59,761 commercial if you don't qualify 9483 05:39:00,211 --> 05:39:00,461 for either one of those, you are 9484 05:39:02,011 --> 05:39:02,261 eligible for what is known as 9485 05:39:03,744 --> 05:39:03,994 the alternative abatement cap 9486 05:39:06,677 --> 05:39:06,927 that's in Nrs361.4722 and 9487 05:39:10,011 --> 05:39:10,261 it is listed there on line 20. 9488 05:39:14,011 --> 05:39:14,261 Your tax bill can go up by 9489 05:39:17,511 --> 05:39:17,761 anywhere between0 and8% from the 9490 05:39:19,511 --> 05:39:19,761 previous year and that is based 9491 05:39:20,511 --> 05:39:20,761 on the statutory formula in that 9492 05:39:23,744 --> 05:39:23,994 section that looks at the 10 9493 05:39:26,044 --> 05:39:26,294 year average change in assessed 9494 05:39:28,011 --> 05:39:28,261 value in that county twice the 9495 05:39:29,977 --> 05:39:30,227 change in the consumer price 9496 05:39:31,811 --> 05:39:32,061 index or rate of inflation for 9497 05:39:33,544 --> 05:39:33,794 the previous calendar year 9498 05:39:34,277 --> 05:39:34,527 and it takes the higher one of 9499 05:39:36,011 --> 05:39:36,261 those two but it has to be 9500 05:39:37,644 --> 05:39:37,894 between0 and8%. so 9501 05:39:40,011 --> 05:39:40,261 in Washoe County right now that 9502 05:39:44,244 --> 05:39:44,494 cap is8% and so because that 9503 05:39:47,744 --> 05:39:47,994 cap of8% is actually higher than 9504 05:39:49,977 --> 05:39:50,227 the three cent cap I'm eligible 9505 05:39:52,244 --> 05:39:52,494 for the lower cap of3%. If 9506 05:39:55,744 --> 05:39:55,994 that8% happened to fall below3%, 9507 05:39:58,011 --> 05:39:58,261 every parcel would be eligible 9508 05:39:59,711 --> 05:39:59,961 for that and so there are fiscal 9509 05:40:02,011 --> 05:40:02,261 years going back in the 9510 05:40:03,777 --> 05:40:04,027 middle of last decade where that 9511 05:40:06,211 --> 05:40:06,461 alternative cap was at0.2% in 9512 05:40:07,644 --> 05:40:07,894 many counties including Washoe 9513 05:40:12,244 --> 05:40:12,494 every parcel got the.2% and 9514 05:40:14,011 --> 05:40:14,261 so there was legislation that 9515 05:40:16,011 --> 05:40:16,261 was attempted to try and address 9516 05:40:17,744 --> 05:40:17,994 that that did not go anywhere 9517 05:40:19,777 --> 05:40:20,027 that would have said that 9518 05:40:21,511 --> 05:40:21,761 instead of being between0 and8% 9519 05:40:23,511 --> 05:40:23,761 that cap would have been 9520 05:40:26,011 --> 05:40:26,261 between3% and8%. so in the 9521 05:40:27,977 --> 05:40:28,227 instances where you're inflation 9522 05:40:31,511 --> 05:40:31,761 rate was below1.5% or that 9523 05:40:32,477 --> 05:40:32,727 tenyear moving average of 9524 05:40:35,511 --> 05:40:35,761 assessed value was less 9525 05:40:37,711 --> 05:40:37,961 than3% then everybody's tax bill 9526 05:40:42,244 --> 05:40:42,494 could have gone up by only3%. 9527 05:40:45,511 --> 05:40:45,761 but the the instances where that 9528 05:40:46,377 --> 05:40:46,627 legislation was passed it did 9529 05:40:47,077 --> 05:40:47,327 not go anywhere 9530 05:40:50,277 --> 05:40:50,527 so because I am eligible for 9531 05:40:54,211 --> 05:40:54,461 the3% tax cap I'm not paying 9532 05:40:58,011 --> 05:40:58,261 that full3019 dollars in Fy25 or 9533 05:41:01,977 --> 05:41:02,227 the3,327 dollars in fy 27. I'm 9534 05:41:05,511 --> 05:41:05,761 only paying3% higher than what I 9535 05:41:07,744 --> 05:41:07,994 did in the previous year. So for 9536 05:41:11,511 --> 05:41:11,761 example in Fy2026 I paid1,714 9537 05:41:12,111 --> 05:41:12,361 dollars you can see that 9538 05:41:14,277 --> 05:41:14,527 actually went up by30cent and 9539 05:41:16,344 --> 05:41:16,594 it's because I had357 dollars 9540 05:41:17,011 --> 05:41:17,261 worth of new improve 9541 05:41:19,744 --> 05:41:19,994 ment s added that got put on at 9542 05:41:21,511 --> 05:41:21,761 full value because it wasn't on 9543 05:41:23,511 --> 05:41:23,761 the roll in the previous year 9544 05:41:25,977 --> 05:41:26,227 but in Fy2027 my bill could only 9545 05:41:27,977 --> 05:41:28,227 go up by3%. So instead of paying 9546 05:41:33,711 --> 05:41:33,961 the3,327 dollars. I paid1766 9547 05:41:37,711 --> 05:41:37,961 dollars. That1561 dollars that's 9548 05:41:39,511 --> 05:41:39,761 listed in line 26. that was the 9549 05:41:40,277 --> 05:41:40,527 amount of my abatement that's 9550 05:41:42,311 --> 05:41:42,561 the amount of tax that I did not 9551 05:41:45,544 --> 05:41:45,794 have to pay and so that's where 9552 05:41:46,377 --> 05:41:46,627 the double edged sword is for me 9553 05:41:47,044 --> 05:41:47,294 as a taxpayer 9554 05:41:49,777 --> 05:41:50,027 that's good. I'm paying less 9555 05:41:51,977 --> 05:41:52,227 than I would have absent the 9556 05:41:53,744 --> 05:41:53,994 abatements but then there's the 9557 05:41:55,744 --> 05:41:55,994 side of local governments who 9558 05:41:57,744 --> 05:41:57,994 depend on and other entities who 9559 05:41:59,511 --> 05:41:59,761 depend on this revenue. This is 9560 05:42:00,211 --> 05:42:00,461 revenue that they're not going 9561 05:42:02,277 --> 05:42:02,527 to receive and so this is the 9562 05:42:04,211 --> 05:42:04,461 delicate balance I um, knowing 9563 05:42:07,477 --> 05:42:07,727 all of you on this committee, 9564 05:42:08,111 --> 05:42:08,361 some of you are going to be 9565 05:42:09,777 --> 05:42:10,027 happier with one result than the 9566 05:42:11,777 --> 05:42:12,027 other. I and I'm not saying one 9567 05:42:14,011 --> 05:42:14,261 of those is better or not 9568 05:42:15,811 --> 05:42:16,061 because I'm nonpartisan staff 9569 05:42:16,477 --> 05:42:16,727 and it's up to you to make that 9570 05:42:17,177 --> 05:42:17,427 decision of a 9571 05:42:19,977 --> 05:42:20,227 as the the value judgment of 9572 05:42:21,977 --> 05:42:22,227 what you would prefer taxpayers 9573 05:42:23,777 --> 05:42:24,027 paying less or local governments 9574 05:42:25,744 --> 05:42:25,994 or government entities having 9575 05:42:28,011 --> 05:42:28,261 more revenue but this is the 9576 05:42:30,011 --> 05:42:30,261 reality and how property taxes 9577 05:42:32,211 --> 05:42:32,461 work in this state. so when 9578 05:42:34,011 --> 05:42:34,261 you then get to the bottom line 9579 05:42:35,977 --> 05:42:36,227 you start looking at effective 9580 05:42:37,711 --> 05:42:37,961 tax rates and the one I think I 9581 05:42:39,511 --> 05:42:39,761 want to focus on, um, is 9582 05:42:41,511 --> 05:42:41,761 linene31, the last line. the 9583 05:42:43,511 --> 05:42:43,761 effective tax rate per100 9584 05:42:45,744 --> 05:42:45,994 dollars of tax of taxable 9585 05:42:46,344 --> 05:42:46,594 value before depreciation so 9586 05:42:50,244 --> 05:42:50,494 the taxable value of the 9587 05:42:53,511 --> 05:42:53,761 property it doesn't necessarily 9588 05:42:55,511 --> 05:42:55,761 equal the full cash value but it 9589 05:42:56,244 --> 05:42:56,494 can't exceed the full cash 9590 05:42:59,777 --> 05:43:00,027 value. if you have if the 9591 05:43:01,511 --> 05:43:01,761 accounting assessor comes in and 9592 05:43:02,244 --> 05:43:02,494 says the replacement cost of 9593 05:43:04,244 --> 05:43:04,494 your structure is x and the full 9594 05:43:07,511 --> 05:43:07,761 cash value of the land is why. 9595 05:43:08,477 --> 05:43:08,727 but you go to them and say hey 9596 05:43:11,511 --> 05:43:11,761 my my house based on the market 9597 05:43:13,511 --> 05:43:13,761 value is worth less than the sum 9598 05:43:14,311 --> 05:43:14,561 of that you can actually appeal 9599 05:43:16,011 --> 05:43:16,261 that and they would have to 9600 05:43:16,544 --> 05:43:16,794 reduce your taxable value down 9601 05:43:20,244 --> 05:43:20,494 to be at the cash value. but 9602 05:43:21,977 --> 05:43:22,227 if you think about it in those 9603 05:43:24,011 --> 05:43:24,261 terms for every100 dollars of 9604 05:43:25,977 --> 05:43:26,227 taxable value and we'll save for 9605 05:43:27,511 --> 05:43:27,761 argument's sake that my taxable 9606 05:43:28,244 --> 05:43:28,494 value was equal to my fair 9607 05:43:33,511 --> 05:43:33,761 market value. I am paying31% 9608 05:43:36,011 --> 05:43:36,261 of the taxable value of my house 9609 05:43:38,211 --> 05:43:38,461 in terms of property tax. Again 9610 05:43:39,777 --> 05:43:40,027 whether this is a good number or 9611 05:43:42,011 --> 05:43:42,261 a bad number is that's a value 9612 05:43:43,811 --> 05:43:44,061 judgment for all of you to make 9613 05:43:45,777 --> 05:43:46,027 but it is the the number that I 9614 05:43:46,477 --> 05:43:46,727 pay in terms of property tax 9615 05:43:49,511 --> 05:43:49,761 as the chair noted this is a 9616 05:43:50,244 --> 05:43:50,494 presentation that we've made 9617 05:43:52,244 --> 05:43:52,494 previously but it's not a 9618 05:43:54,011 --> 05:43:54,261 presentation we make a lot 9619 05:43:56,511 --> 05:43:56,761 because property tax is not a 9620 05:43:58,244 --> 05:43:58,494 significant revenue source for 9621 05:44:01,511 --> 05:44:01,761 the state. We get most property 9622 05:44:02,277 --> 05:44:02,527 tax revenue that flows into the 9623 05:44:04,011 --> 05:44:04,261 state coffers through the state 9624 05:44:05,977 --> 05:44:06,227 education fund. The75 cent 9625 05:44:07,744 --> 05:44:07,994 property tax rate for school 9626 05:44:08,477 --> 05:44:08,727 districts that's imposed in 9627 05:44:10,277 --> 05:44:10,527 all17 counties makes up about a 9628 05:44:12,011 --> 05:44:12,261 quarter of the state education 9629 05:44:14,277 --> 05:44:14,527 fund but in terms of state 9630 05:44:16,411 --> 05:44:16,661 revenue it's not a big amount 9631 05:44:17,077 --> 05:44:17,327 for the local 9632 05:44:19,777 --> 05:44:20,027 governments though it is either 9633 05:44:20,477 --> 05:44:20,727 their firstst or their second 9634 05:44:22,011 --> 05:44:22,261 largest, soclark countunty for 9635 05:44:25,744 --> 05:44:25,994 example in Fy2025 for their 9636 05:44:27,544 --> 05:44:27,794 total revenue property tax was 9637 05:44:28,277 --> 05:44:28,527 just under 21%. It was their 9638 05:44:31,511 --> 05:44:31,761 second biggest after the C tax 9639 05:44:33,944 --> 05:44:34,194 or consolidated tax 9640 05:44:34,377 --> 05:44:34,627 distribution 9641 05:44:37,977 --> 05:44:38,227 so it is a significant revenue 9642 05:44:40,011 --> 05:44:40,261 source for a lot of local 9643 05:44:41,511 --> 05:44:41,761 governments not necessarily for 9644 05:44:43,511 --> 05:44:43,761 the state but when you actually 9645 05:44:44,244 --> 05:44:44,494 look at the whole numbers it is 9646 05:44:45,777 --> 05:44:46,027 the second largest revenue 9647 05:44:48,311 --> 05:44:48,561 source for all state and 9648 05:44:50,011 --> 05:44:50,261 local governments again though 9649 05:44:53,511 --> 05:44:53,761 primarily local governments so I 9650 05:44:54,211 --> 05:44:54,461 wanted to go through this table 9651 05:44:56,011 --> 05:44:56,261 just to set the stage of this is 9652 05:44:58,011 --> 05:44:58,261 how it works and and this is 9653 05:45:01,511 --> 05:45:01,761 what property tax looks like. So 9654 05:45:02,244 --> 05:45:02,494 I'll I'll spend a little bit of 9655 05:45:04,144 --> 05:45:04,394 time going through the remainder 9656 05:45:04,811 --> 05:45:05,061 of the tables just to give 9657 05:45:08,011 --> 05:45:08,261 some context and and and show 9658 05:45:09,711 --> 05:45:09,961 what is there but I'm going to 9659 05:45:11,477 --> 05:45:11,727 spend most of my time going 9660 05:45:13,477 --> 05:45:13,727 through alternative scenarios 9661 05:45:14,244 --> 05:45:14,494 that the chair asked us to put 9662 05:45:16,011 --> 05:45:16,261 together to show if there is a 9663 05:45:20,244 --> 05:45:20,494 desire to increase revenue or 9664 05:45:23,511 --> 05:45:23,761 to gain something from property 9665 05:45:24,244 --> 05:45:24,494 tax that isn't there now. 9666 05:45:26,511 --> 05:45:26,761 these are the way things that 9667 05:45:27,777 --> 05:45:28,027 you have to think about and 9668 05:45:29,511 --> 05:45:29,761 these are some options that you 9669 05:45:31,511 --> 05:45:31,761 have and again as nonpartisan 9670 05:45:32,111 --> 05:45:32,361 staff I'm not saying that any of 9671 05:45:34,111 --> 05:45:34,361 the options are good or better 9672 05:45:34,777 --> 05:45:35,027 than the others 9673 05:45:38,244 --> 05:45:38,494 I'm again providing 9674 05:45:39,977 --> 05:45:40,227 information I don't support or 9675 05:45:42,211 --> 05:45:42,461 oppose any of them. it is just 9676 05:45:45,511 --> 05:45:45,761 the information. So table one a 9677 05:45:47,511 --> 05:45:47,761 is two pages that go through and 9678 05:45:49,511 --> 05:45:49,761 again this is my house and this 9679 05:45:51,777 --> 05:45:52,027 is the historical calculation of 9680 05:45:53,744 --> 05:45:53,994 the property tax on my house 9681 05:45:55,977 --> 05:45:56,227 going back to fiscal year 2000 9682 05:45:58,377 --> 05:45:58,627 and why I went back that far is 9683 05:46:02,011 --> 05:46:02,261 especially in the first seven 9684 05:46:03,744 --> 05:46:03,994 years that are shown on the on 9685 05:46:07,477 --> 05:46:07,727 this table Fy2000 through Fy2006 9686 05:46:09,777 --> 05:46:10,027 this is before the effect of the 9687 05:46:10,511 --> 05:46:10,761 partial abatements and so you 9688 05:46:13,544 --> 05:46:13,794 can see the land and the 9689 05:46:16,244 --> 05:46:16,494 improvements were assessed you 9690 05:46:17,977 --> 05:46:18,227 got a taxable value after 9691 05:46:19,977 --> 05:46:20,227 depreciation but then when 9692 05:46:21,744 --> 05:46:21,994 you start going in and looking 9693 05:46:25,511 --> 05:46:25,761 at line 22 and 24 the tax due 9694 05:46:27,511 --> 05:46:27,761 and the before and after partial 9695 05:46:28,344 --> 05:46:28,594 abatements obviouslybviously 9696 05:46:28,911 --> 05:46:29,161 before Fy20 9697 05:46:31,744 --> 05:46:31,994 7 those numbers were the same 9698 05:46:33,511 --> 05:46:33,761 because there were no abatements 9699 05:46:35,744 --> 05:46:35,994 but you can see when you start 9700 05:46:37,744 --> 05:46:37,994 looking at the actual tax that 9701 05:46:38,444 --> 05:46:38,694 was paid 9702 05:46:42,044 --> 05:46:42,294 for my house because it was 9703 05:46:44,244 --> 05:46:44,494 still being depreciated and the 9704 05:46:46,277 --> 05:46:46,527 the value was not going up so 9705 05:46:49,744 --> 05:46:49,994 strongly my tax bill or my 9706 05:46:51,477 --> 05:46:51,727 house's tax bill actually fell 9707 05:46:53,811 --> 05:46:54,061 and fy 2006 and then jumped up a 9708 05:46:55,744 --> 05:46:55,994 little bit in the two 9709 05:46:56,544 --> 05:46:56,794 previous or the the previous and 9710 05:46:58,311 --> 05:46:58,561 the subsequent fiscal years this 9711 05:47:01,811 --> 05:47:02,061 is not necessarily the case for 9712 05:47:03,811 --> 05:47:04,061 a lot of parcels that were in 9713 05:47:05,744 --> 05:47:05,994 the state at the time and so 9714 05:47:07,777 --> 05:47:08,027 when I get to some other 9715 05:47:08,311 --> 05:47:08,561 information that showed kind of 9716 05:47:08,977 --> 05:47:09,227 what was going on. It gives a 9717 05:47:11,777 --> 05:47:12,027 little bit of history and 9718 05:47:13,511 --> 05:47:13,761 context as to why the 9719 05:47:14,544 --> 05:47:14,794 legislature decided during the 9720 05:47:16,277 --> 05:47:16,527 2005 session to put these 9721 05:47:18,311 --> 05:47:18,561 abatements into place because by 9722 05:47:21,511 --> 05:47:21,761 and large there were parcels 9723 05:47:23,511 --> 05:47:23,761 that were having double digit 9724 05:47:25,777 --> 05:47:26,027 growth and so it wouldn't have 9725 05:47:27,777 --> 05:47:28,027 been a shock in Fy2005 or 9726 05:47:30,311 --> 05:47:30,561 Fy2006. and even in in 2007 if 9727 05:47:32,044 --> 05:47:32,294 the abatements hadn't been put 9728 05:47:33,777 --> 05:47:34,027 in that people's property tax 9729 05:47:36,011 --> 05:47:36,261 bill would have bills might have 9730 05:47:38,611 --> 05:47:38,861 increased by1015,20,25,30% or 9731 05:47:39,277 --> 05:47:39,527 more 9732 05:47:42,311 --> 05:47:42,561 and so the legislature tasks 9733 05:47:44,511 --> 05:47:44,761 themselves with addressing this 9734 05:47:47,511 --> 05:47:47,761 issue. so that's really what 9735 05:47:48,277 --> 05:47:48,527 table one a is about is just 9736 05:47:50,011 --> 05:47:50,261 showing my house and the 9737 05:47:51,877 --> 05:47:52,127 progression of the values 9738 05:47:52,444 --> 05:47:52,694 throughout time. 9739 05:47:57,511 --> 05:47:57,761 table two I'm not going to spend 9740 05:47:58,244 --> 05:47:58,494 a lot of time going through all 9741 05:48:02,011 --> 05:48:02,261 23 pages of table two but this 9742 05:48:03,977 --> 05:48:04,227 is going through through all 17 9743 05:48:06,244 --> 05:48:06,494 counties and the tax taxing 9744 05:48:07,977 --> 05:48:08,227 entities within these counties 9745 05:48:09,777 --> 05:48:10,027 and showing what the total 9746 05:48:11,777 --> 05:48:12,027 combined property tax rate would 9747 05:48:14,244 --> 05:48:14,494 be and so the easy way for me to 9748 05:48:16,011 --> 05:48:16,261 explain this is I'll point out 9749 05:48:17,744 --> 05:48:17,994 Churchill County as a good 9750 05:48:20,244 --> 05:48:20,494 example on on page one of table 9751 05:48:22,044 --> 05:48:22,294 wo. they have a total of three 9752 05:48:22,644 --> 05:48:22,894 tax districts and you can 9753 05:48:26,011 --> 05:48:26,261 see that they all have different 9754 05:48:28,277 --> 05:48:28,527 tax rates the city of Fallon has 9755 05:48:30,011 --> 05:48:30,261 its combined property tax rate 9756 05:48:33,511 --> 05:48:33,761 at the maximum3 dollars66 cents 9757 05:48:34,244 --> 05:48:34,494 when you get outside of the c 9758 05:48:36,211 --> 05:48:36,461 city of Allen there are two 9759 05:48:37,777 --> 05:48:38,027 taxing districts in 9760 05:48:39,511 --> 05:48:39,761 unincorporated Churchill County 9761 05:48:41,511 --> 05:48:41,761 that have lower rates and they 9762 05:48:42,377 --> 05:48:42,627 have a difference of three cents 9763 05:48:43,044 --> 05:48:43,294 in between them. 9764 05:48:46,244 --> 05:48:46,494 so what is behind this summary 9765 05:48:47,744 --> 05:48:47,994 table and it's the first four 9766 05:48:49,777 --> 05:48:50,027 pages that go through all 17 9767 05:48:51,744 --> 05:48:51,994 counties well starting on 9768 05:48:52,477 --> 05:48:52,727 page five there are individual 9769 05:48:55,744 --> 05:48:55,994 tables that show the components 9770 05:48:57,511 --> 05:48:57,761 of the property tax rates for 9771 05:48:59,744 --> 05:48:59,994 every single district within 9772 05:49:01,711 --> 05:49:01,961 that county. And so I will go to 9773 05:49:04,477 --> 05:49:04,727 table 2b on page ix of this 9774 05:49:07,511 --> 05:49:07,761 particular section and this 9775 05:49:09,511 --> 05:49:09,761 shows each of those three tax 9776 05:49:11,744 --> 05:49:11,994 districts in Churchill County 9777 05:49:12,444 --> 05:49:12,694 and has each of the rates that 9778 05:49:13,111 --> 05:49:13,361 make up that 9779 05:49:16,277 --> 05:49:16,527 combined rate broken out so you 9780 05:49:17,744 --> 05:49:17,994 can see there's a state rate 9781 05:49:20,244 --> 05:49:20,494 of17 cents that's used to pay 9782 05:49:22,477 --> 05:49:22,727 for state debt capital 9783 05:49:24,311 --> 05:49:24,561 improvements and other projects 9784 05:49:27,511 --> 05:49:27,761 there is a dollar30 school 9785 05:49:28,244 --> 05:49:28,494 district rate which makes up 9786 05:49:30,244 --> 05:49:30,494 it's the75 cent rate that I 9787 05:49:31,744 --> 05:49:31,994 previously mentioned that goes 9788 05:49:33,744 --> 05:49:33,994 to the state education fund and 9789 05:49:35,544 --> 05:49:35,794 then there's a55 cent rate that 9790 05:49:37,811 --> 05:49:38,061 is imposed in Churchill County 9791 05:49:39,511 --> 05:49:39,761 for the school district's debt 9792 05:49:41,544 --> 05:49:41,794 and and school district 9793 05:49:42,044 --> 05:49:42,294 districts are allowed to do 9794 05:49:42,611 --> 05:49:42,861 that. the county's rate is 9795 05:49:47,511 --> 05:49:47,761 12829 so just under or just over 9796 05:49:49,777 --> 05:49:50,027 dollar 28 per100 dollars of 9797 05:49:51,511 --> 05:49:51,761 assessed value goes to 9798 05:49:53,744 --> 05:49:53,994 uhhurchill County and then for 9799 05:49:56,211 --> 05:49:56,461 the city and town and we put 9800 05:49:58,211 --> 05:49:58,461 this there because many counties 9801 05:49:59,744 --> 05:49:59,994 have multiple cities or towns 9802 05:50:01,744 --> 05:50:01,994 and rather than listing them all 9803 05:50:03,844 --> 05:50:04,094 out we have on a lot of these 9804 05:50:06,044 --> 05:50:06,294 just one combined so for that 9805 05:50:09,511 --> 05:50:09,761 district tax district100 in the 9806 05:50:11,511 --> 05:50:11,761 city of Fallon that's se $9.71 9807 05:50:12,344 --> 05:50:12,594 that's the city of Fallon's 9808 05:50:12,944 --> 05:50:13,194 operating 9809 05:50:15,977 --> 05:50:16,227 and debt rates if they have them 9810 05:50:16,711 --> 05:50:16,961 that they use for their own 9811 05:50:20,011 --> 05:50:20,261 purposes and then there's an e 9812 05:50:21,744 --> 05:50:21,994 cent rate that goes to the 9813 05:50:23,511 --> 05:50:23,761 Churchill County mosquito 9814 05:50:25,511 --> 05:50:25,761 abatement district and then two 9815 05:50:28,011 --> 05:50:28,261 of the three rates or two of 9816 05:50:30,011 --> 05:50:30,261 these three tax districts impose 9817 05:50:31,777 --> 05:50:32,027 a three cent rate for the carson 9818 05:50:33,811 --> 05:50:34,061 water subbconservancy district 9819 05:50:35,777 --> 05:50:36,027 so that is the explanation for 9820 05:50:37,511 --> 05:50:37,761 why one of those Churchill 9821 05:50:39,511 --> 05:50:39,761 County rates is3 cents lower is 9822 05:50:41,777 --> 05:50:42,027 because tax district300 does not 9823 05:50:43,544 --> 05:50:43,794 impose that three cent rate and 9824 05:50:45,511 --> 05:50:45,761 so when you add all of those 9825 05:50:46,311 --> 05:50:46,561 together on each of the lines 9826 05:50:47,711 --> 05:50:47,961 that's how the combined property 9827 05:50:48,377 --> 05:50:48,627 tax 9828 05:50:51,511 --> 05:50:51,761 rate works and so it's all of 9829 05:50:53,744 --> 05:50:53,994 the pieces put together and then 9830 05:50:55,744 --> 05:50:55,994 when you add all of those up 9831 05:50:57,944 --> 05:50:58,194 they cannot exceed3 dollars66 9832 05:51:00,211 --> 05:51:00,461 cents per $100 of assessed value 9833 05:51:03,511 --> 05:51:03,761 in most instances and I won't 9834 05:51:04,244 --> 05:51:04,494 get too much into the details of 9835 05:51:06,244 --> 05:51:06,494 the exceptions to that but they 9836 05:51:08,211 --> 05:51:08,461 are actually spelled out or many 9837 05:51:09,711 --> 05:51:09,961 of them are spelled out in 9838 05:51:12,177 --> 05:51:12,427 table6. so that's table two 9839 05:51:17,744 --> 05:51:17,994 a or 2 through 2cu I believe 9840 05:51:19,744 --> 05:51:19,994 there's one a sheet like that 9841 05:51:22,077 --> 05:51:22,327 for all17 counties that you can 9842 05:51:22,711 --> 05:51:22,961 go through and and look at 9843 05:51:25,744 --> 05:51:25,994 So I had mentioned the partial 9844 05:51:27,744 --> 05:51:27,994 abatements and the the cap 9845 05:51:29,511 --> 05:51:29,761 factors that apply and so 9846 05:51:31,477 --> 05:51:31,727 table3a is kind of hard to look 9847 05:51:33,777 --> 05:51:34,027 at. so I'm actually going to 9848 05:51:36,244 --> 05:51:36,494 move on to table3B and so I 9849 05:51:39,744 --> 05:51:39,994 mentioned that the the cap 9850 05:51:42,044 --> 05:51:42,294 for the abatements is based on a 9851 05:51:43,744 --> 05:51:43,994 statutory formula and especially 9852 05:51:46,011 --> 05:51:46,261 that alternative cap that takes 9853 05:51:47,744 --> 05:51:47,994 into account the tenyear 9854 05:51:49,544 --> 05:51:49,794 assessed value moving average 9855 05:51:51,544 --> 05:51:51,794 growth rate twice the change in 9856 05:51:52,211 --> 05:51:52,461 the consumer price index 9857 05:51:52,744 --> 05:51:52,994 somewhere 9858 05:51:57,511 --> 05:51:57,761 between0 and8%. and so for 9859 05:51:59,744 --> 05:51:59,994 each county the department of 9860 05:52:01,777 --> 05:52:02,027 taxation each year will do this 9861 05:52:03,744 --> 05:52:03,994 calculation and then they 9862 05:52:05,977 --> 05:52:06,227 establish what the caps are for 9863 05:52:09,511 --> 05:52:09,761 all17 counties so in table3b it 9864 05:52:11,744 --> 05:52:11,994 goes through back to fy 2006 and 9865 05:52:14,011 --> 05:52:14,261 shows what the single family cap 9866 05:52:16,211 --> 05:52:16,461 either for residential or the 9867 05:52:18,011 --> 05:52:18,261 eligible rentals and that 9868 05:52:19,511 --> 05:52:19,761 alternative cap is for each 9869 05:52:21,511 --> 05:52:21,761 county for each fiscal year and 9870 05:52:22,177 --> 05:52:22,427 in most instances you can see 9871 05:52:22,777 --> 05:52:23,027 especially 9872 05:52:26,011 --> 05:52:26,261 on this page that the the 9873 05:52:28,244 --> 05:52:28,494 single family cap was at3% and 9874 05:52:29,977 --> 05:52:30,227 then you had the alternative 9875 05:52:32,244 --> 05:52:32,494 cap somewhere higher than that 9876 05:52:34,177 --> 05:52:34,427 when you get though to Fy 9877 05:52:39,511 --> 05:52:39,761 2017 though so on page three of 9878 05:52:42,277 --> 05:52:42,527 table3b so this last line 9879 05:52:43,977 --> 05:52:44,227 here you can see a lot of the 9880 05:52:45,544 --> 05:52:45,794 numbers fell below that and this 9881 05:52:47,511 --> 05:52:47,761 is the fiscal year that I was 9882 05:52:49,777 --> 05:52:50,027 referring to where inflation was 9883 05:52:51,777 --> 05:52:52,027 very low. in fact the 9884 05:52:54,311 --> 05:52:54,561 calculation was 2 times thecPI 9885 05:52:57,777 --> 05:52:58,027 was0.2% and so in a lot of 9886 05:52:59,711 --> 05:52:59,961 instances you can see that 9887 05:53:02,211 --> 05:53:02,461 the assessed value was above 9888 05:53:04,211 --> 05:53:04,461 that. so for example in Elko 9889 05:53:06,211 --> 05:53:06,461 County the the 10 year moving 9890 05:53:07,977 --> 05:53:08,227 average in assessed value 9891 05:53:10,244 --> 05:53:10,494 was6.4%. so their alternative 9892 05:53:13,511 --> 05:53:13,761 cap was the6.4% because it's the 9893 05:53:15,511 --> 05:53:15,761 higher of those two numbers and 9894 05:53:16,244 --> 05:53:16,494 then the the partial 9895 05:53:19,511 --> 05:53:19,761 abatement for single families 9896 05:53:20,277 --> 05:53:20,527 owner occupied in the eligible 9897 05:53:23,511 --> 05:53:23,761 rentals was3%. but go down to 9898 05:53:24,244 --> 05:53:24,494 Washoe County though and you can 9899 05:53:26,011 --> 05:53:26,261 see that there 10 year moving 9900 05:53:26,644 --> 05:53:26,894 average of obsessed value is 9901 05:53:27,311 --> 05:53:27,561 flat. 9902 05:53:30,211 --> 05:53:30,461 and so the higher of those two 9903 05:53:32,244 --> 05:53:32,494 numbers is the0.2%. so that 9904 05:53:35,977 --> 05:53:36,227 alternative cap was0.2% but 9905 05:53:37,744 --> 05:53:37,994 again because that number was 9906 05:53:41,744 --> 05:53:41,994 lower than3% every property 9907 05:53:44,244 --> 05:53:44,494 went to the.2% again something 9908 05:53:48,011 --> 05:53:48,261 good for your property owners 9909 05:53:49,511 --> 05:53:49,761 if that's the way you want to 9910 05:53:51,977 --> 05:53:52,227 look at it. but again if you 9911 05:53:53,777 --> 05:53:54,027 are looking at on the side of 9912 05:53:54,544 --> 05:53:54,794 trying to fund government 9913 05:53:56,444 --> 05:53:56,694 services maybe not so much so 9914 05:53:57,111 --> 05:53:57,361 but this 9915 05:53:59,744 --> 05:53:59,994 is going through and all the way 9916 05:54:01,777 --> 05:54:02,027 to Fy2027 if you go to the last 9917 05:54:03,777 --> 05:54:04,027 page the current fiscal year's 9918 05:54:06,011 --> 05:54:06,261 caps for each of the 17 counties 9919 05:54:07,811 --> 05:54:08,061 are listed as well as how that 9920 05:54:08,511 --> 05:54:08,761 was determined 9921 05:54:10,277 --> 05:54:10,527 this is information we get 9922 05:54:11,777 --> 05:54:12,027 from the department of taxation. 9923 05:54:13,511 --> 05:54:13,761 I do want to thank them for 9924 05:54:15,477 --> 05:54:15,727 their assistance, as well as 9925 05:54:17,544 --> 05:54:17,794 my staff up in Carson City 9926 05:54:18,444 --> 05:54:18,694 who spent a lot of time looking 9927 05:54:19,144 --> 05:54:19,394 through all of this stuff. 9928 05:54:22,011 --> 05:54:22,261 so this gets us to the meat of 9929 05:54:24,011 --> 05:54:24,261 the presentation and what the 9930 05:54:25,744 --> 05:54:25,994 chair asked us to put together 9931 05:54:29,711 --> 05:54:29,961 and so what I did in tables4a 9932 05:54:30,377 --> 05:54:30,627 through for 9933 05:54:33,777 --> 05:54:34,027 J or K I'm not sure which one at 9934 05:54:35,744 --> 05:54:35,994 this point is go through and 9935 05:54:36,377 --> 05:54:36,627 put together a number of 9936 05:54:38,044 --> 05:54:38,294 scenarios taking my house 9937 05:54:42,277 --> 05:54:42,527 starting inFy2027 because 9938 05:54:43,544 --> 05:54:43,794 that's the most recent 9939 05:54:45,511 --> 05:54:45,761 assessment growing the value of 9940 05:54:48,011 --> 05:54:48,261 the land by5% per year 9941 05:54:49,744 --> 05:54:49,994 growing the replacement cost of 9942 05:54:51,511 --> 05:54:51,761 the improvements by 2% per 9943 05:54:53,511 --> 05:54:53,761 fiscal year and then running a 9944 05:54:54,177 --> 05:54:54,427 different a bunch of different 9945 05:54:54,777 --> 05:54:55,027 scenarios that 9946 05:54:58,011 --> 05:54:58,261 to show what property tax would 9947 05:55:01,777 --> 05:55:02,027 look like. And so table4A on 9948 05:55:03,511 --> 05:55:03,761 this page that's up on the 9949 05:55:04,277 --> 05:55:04,527 screen is the baseline scenario 9950 05:55:06,244 --> 05:55:06,494 so I'm assuming that the partial 9951 05:55:08,011 --> 05:55:08,261 abatement cap that that applies 9952 05:55:09,744 --> 05:55:09,994 to my house is going to stay 9953 05:55:12,244 --> 05:55:12,494 at3% all the way out to Fy2039. 9954 05:55:14,011 --> 05:55:14,261 it is an eligible singlefamily 9955 05:55:16,244 --> 05:55:16,494 residence that should apply for 9956 05:55:17,711 --> 05:55:17,961 that cap. I just set the 9957 05:55:19,777 --> 05:55:20,027 alternative cap at8% it could 9958 05:55:21,511 --> 05:55:21,761 be lower than that but as long 9959 05:55:23,777 --> 05:55:24,027 as it's above 3% then my cap is 9960 05:55:24,744 --> 05:55:24,994 3%. and so this shows basically 9961 05:55:25,377 --> 05:55:25,627 what 9962 05:55:28,044 --> 05:55:28,294 my tax bill is going to look 9963 05:55:30,311 --> 05:55:30,561 like growing it by3% per year 9964 05:55:31,677 --> 05:55:31,927 under the existing law. 9965 05:55:36,244 --> 05:55:36,494 and so the num the various 9966 05:55:37,977 --> 05:55:38,227 scenarios that I put together, 9967 05:55:39,877 --> 05:55:40,127 most of them are going to 9968 05:55:44,177 --> 05:55:44,427 affect the abatement cap because 9969 05:55:45,711 --> 05:55:45,961 there are a number of different 9970 05:55:47,777 --> 05:55:48,027 things that you could have done 9971 05:55:51,777 --> 05:55:52,027 in a previous time to raise 9972 05:55:53,544 --> 05:55:53,794 property taxes the obvious one 9973 05:55:54,277 --> 05:55:54,527 would be to increase your 9974 05:55:57,477 --> 05:55:57,727 property tax rate. the 9975 05:55:57,977 --> 05:55:58,227 partial abatements when they 9976 05:55:58,577 --> 05:55:58,827 were put into place back in 9977 05:56:00,244 --> 05:56:00,494 assembly bill489 and Senate 9978 05:56:03,744 --> 05:56:03,994 Bill509 of 2005 session were 9979 05:56:05,677 --> 05:56:05,927 intentionally designed to not 9980 05:56:09,511 --> 05:56:09,761 it wasn't as simple as oh you 9981 05:56:11,511 --> 05:56:11,761 can raise your rate and you'll 9982 05:56:12,311 --> 05:56:12,561 get more revenue because the 9983 05:56:15,511 --> 05:56:15,761 thought was if you allowed 9984 05:56:16,044 --> 05:56:16,294 people to do that all of a 9985 05:56:18,011 --> 05:56:18,261 sudden every single local 9986 05:56:18,611 --> 05:56:18,861 government would try to raise 9987 05:56:21,511 --> 05:56:21,761 their rate and try to steal some 9988 05:56:22,277 --> 05:56:22,527 portion of that revenue knowing 9989 05:56:24,044 --> 05:56:24,294 your tax bill could only go up 9990 05:56:27,477 --> 05:56:27,727 by a certain percentage so 9991 05:56:29,877 --> 05:56:30,127 realistically the only way that 9992 05:56:30,544 --> 05:56:30,794 you can 9993 05:56:34,277 --> 05:56:34,527 raise revenue it there are 9994 05:56:36,011 --> 05:56:36,261 several things that you can do 9995 05:56:37,511 --> 05:56:37,761 but the abatements are really 9996 05:56:39,511 --> 05:56:39,761 the limiter. So if you wanted to 9997 05:56:40,311 --> 05:56:40,561 raise a rate you could do that 9998 05:56:42,011 --> 05:56:42,261 but you'd have to make sure that 9999 05:56:43,777 --> 05:56:44,027 that new rate was somehow 10000 05:56:44,377 --> 05:56:44,627 outside of the partial 10001 05:56:46,011 --> 05:56:46,261 abatements. Otherwise 10002 05:56:47,744 --> 05:56:47,994 realistically you can put your 10003 05:56:48,377 --> 05:56:48,627 rate at whatever you want. taxx 10004 05:56:50,011 --> 05:56:50,261 bill is only going to go up by3% 10005 05:56:52,011 --> 05:56:52,261 or whatever that percentage is. 10006 05:56:54,044 --> 05:56:54,294 And in my instance it would only 10007 05:56:56,011 --> 05:56:56,261 be3%. So starting with this 10008 05:56:58,077 --> 05:56:58,327 baseline, I started running a 10009 05:56:58,711 --> 05:56:58,961 bunch of different scenarios 10010 05:57:02,311 --> 05:57:02,561 so looking at where my tax 10011 05:57:04,244 --> 05:57:04,494 bill is exam for example in 10012 05:57:07,511 --> 05:57:07,761 the baseline scenario in Fy2039 10013 05:57:09,511 --> 05:57:09,761 the last year. So after the 10014 05:57:10,277 --> 05:57:10,527 partial abatement I would 10015 05:57:11,744 --> 05:57:11,994 after the partial abatement and 10016 05:57:14,244 --> 05:57:14,494 Fy2039 my tax bill would be 10017 05:57:18,011 --> 05:57:18,261 $2,518 for that fiscal year. so 10018 05:57:20,044 --> 05:57:20,294 in table4b this is the first 10019 05:57:23,544 --> 05:57:23,794 scenario that we had and so in I 10020 05:57:24,344 --> 05:57:24,594 I made all of these changes in 10021 05:57:27,544 --> 05:57:27,794 Fy2029 because realistically if 10022 05:57:28,244 --> 05:57:28,494 the legislature were going to do 10023 05:57:28,911 --> 05:57:29,161 anything that's probably 10024 05:57:31,977 --> 05:57:32,227 in the 2seth session that's 10025 05:57:33,511 --> 05:57:33,761 probably the first fiscal year 10026 05:57:35,511 --> 05:57:35,761 that you could actually put this 10027 05:57:39,511 --> 05:57:39,761 into place. so in Fy229 10028 05:57:41,744 --> 05:57:41,994 instead of having that cap at3% 10029 05:57:44,544 --> 05:57:44,794 it is at4% and so I that flowed 10030 05:57:46,044 --> 05:57:46,294 through and so my tax bill 10031 05:57:47,744 --> 05:57:47,994 instead of growing by3% starting 10032 05:57:51,511 --> 05:57:51,761 in Fy2029 would grow by4% and so 10033 05:57:52,311 --> 05:57:52,561 my tax bill by the time you got 10034 05:57:56,544 --> 05:57:56,794 out to Fy2039 would be $2800. so 10035 05:57:58,111 --> 05:57:58,361 just under $300 more 10036 05:58:01,844 --> 05:58:02,094 by adding that1% each year 10037 05:58:02,444 --> 05:58:02,694 going on. 10038 05:58:05,744 --> 05:58:05,994 and so I did I repeated this for 10039 05:58:07,511 --> 05:58:07,761 a number of other scenarios 10040 05:58:10,011 --> 05:58:10,261 table4C takes it from3% to5%. 10041 05:58:13,511 --> 05:58:13,761 And so in Fy2039 myb go would be 10042 05:58:14,211 --> 05:58:14,461 about just over3100 dollars 10043 05:58:20,044 --> 05:58:20,294 in table4D it is now up to6% 10044 05:58:21,977 --> 05:58:22,227 rather than3% and so you could 10045 05:58:23,844 --> 05:58:24,094 see that it's about3450 dollars 10046 05:58:28,211 --> 05:58:28,461 and then in table4e I equalize 10047 05:58:29,977 --> 05:58:30,227 them and now all of the caps are 10048 05:58:33,777 --> 05:58:34,027 at8% and so my bill then goes 10049 05:58:36,277 --> 05:58:36,527 to about4,200 dollars. so this 10050 05:58:39,977 --> 05:58:40,227 is actually the point. you in 10051 05:58:40,644 --> 05:58:40,894 terms of the 10052 05:58:45,477 --> 05:58:45,727 abatement as a percentage of my 10053 05:58:46,444 --> 05:58:46,694 tax bill each time you increment 10054 05:58:49,711 --> 05:58:49,961 that, the percentage goes down. 10055 05:58:51,744 --> 05:58:51,994 this is the first scenario out 10056 05:58:53,744 --> 05:58:53,994 of all of them were the actual 10057 05:58:55,744 --> 05:58:55,994 abated tax revenue starts 10058 05:58:57,477 --> 05:58:57,727 decreasing that starts happening 10059 05:58:58,444 --> 05:58:58,694 at about7% where you could 10060 05:59:01,511 --> 05:59:01,761 actually see the revenues going 10061 05:59:03,511 --> 05:59:03,761 down and this is just unique to 10062 05:59:05,511 --> 05:59:05,761 my scenario realistically what 10063 05:59:06,277 --> 05:59:06,527 would have to happen to get more 10064 05:59:09,511 --> 05:59:09,761 revenue out of any parcel is 10065 05:59:10,244 --> 05:59:10,494 that the change in the taxable 10066 05:59:11,711 --> 05:59:11,961 value and the assessed value 10067 05:59:12,244 --> 05:59:12,494 would have 10068 05:59:13,977 --> 05:59:14,227 to be less than the abatement 10069 05:59:15,977 --> 05:59:16,227 amount otherwise you're just 10070 05:59:17,744 --> 05:59:17,994 gonna keep creating more 10071 05:59:19,511 --> 05:59:19,761 abatements but this is the first 10072 05:59:20,211 --> 05:59:20,461 scenario where you can actually 10073 05:59:23,511 --> 05:59:23,761 see that number in line 26 going 10074 05:59:25,744 --> 05:59:25,994 down and so then the next 10075 05:59:27,477 --> 05:59:27,727 scenario is one that gets a 10076 05:59:28,477 --> 05:59:28,727 little more drastic in terms of 10077 05:59:30,277 --> 05:59:30,527 the effects this is the effect 10078 05:59:32,011 --> 05:59:32,261 where you just get rid of the 10079 05:59:34,011 --> 05:59:34,261 partial abatements you rip off 10080 05:59:35,811 --> 05:59:36,061 the band aid and you're done in 10081 05:59:36,511 --> 05:59:36,761 Fy2029. 10082 05:59:39,711 --> 05:59:39,961 and so you can see I I've 10083 05:59:42,011 --> 05:59:42,261 cleared out linenes19 through 10084 05:59:43,777 --> 05:59:44,027 21 but then you can see what 10085 05:59:45,811 --> 05:59:46,061 happens if you just took the 10086 05:59:47,777 --> 05:59:48,027 assessed value, multiplied it by 10087 05:59:49,977 --> 05:59:50,227 the tax rate for my parcel in 10088 05:59:53,744 --> 05:59:53,994 Fy2029 my tax bill would almost 10089 05:59:55,744 --> 05:59:55,994 double. it would go up by 97.1%. 10090 05:59:58,011 --> 05:59:58,261 and so this is realistically the 10091 05:59:59,744 --> 05:59:59,994 effect of the abatements is you 10092 06:00:01,711 --> 06:00:01,961 have kept the property tax bills 10093 06:00:06,044 --> 06:00:06,294 quite low for a lot of people to 10094 06:00:08,244 --> 06:00:08,494 get rid of that this is your end 10095 06:00:10,011 --> 06:00:10,261 result again not saying that 10096 06:00:10,577 --> 06:00:10,827 this isn't necessarily a 10097 06:00:15,977 --> 06:00:16,227 the viability or reality of this 10098 06:00:18,011 --> 06:00:18,261 option but this is the result at 10099 06:00:19,677 --> 06:00:19,927 least as it pertains to my house 10100 06:00:23,811 --> 06:00:24,061 so moving on then from this 10101 06:00:25,811 --> 06:00:26,061 scenario there is an alternate 10102 06:00:29,511 --> 06:00:29,761 scenario6 where the3% cap is 10103 06:00:32,244 --> 06:00:32,494 maintained but a 25 cent rate is 10104 06:00:34,277 --> 06:00:34,527 applied outside of the partial 10105 06:00:37,477 --> 06:00:37,727 abatements in that year only. So 10106 06:00:39,511 --> 06:00:39,761 under AB489 actually more 10107 06:00:40,144 --> 06:00:40,394 specifically under Senate 10108 06:00:43,777 --> 06:00:44,027 Bill509 of the2005 session there 10109 06:00:45,811 --> 06:00:46,061 was a provision that said that 10110 06:00:49,511 --> 06:00:49,761 any new tax that was imposed by 10111 06:00:50,177 --> 06:00:50,427 the legislature or as a result 10112 06:00:50,844 --> 06:00:51,094 of 10113 06:00:53,511 --> 06:00:53,761 a legislative mandate on or 10114 06:00:56,277 --> 06:00:56,527 after April8,2005 was outside of 10115 06:00:58,044 --> 06:00:58,294 the partial abatements entirely 10116 06:00:59,677 --> 06:00:59,927 that you paid the full rate 10117 06:01:03,777 --> 06:01:04,027 as it stood unless the 10118 06:01:06,011 --> 06:01:06,261 legislature said otherwise. so 10119 06:01:07,744 --> 06:01:07,994 one of the options that you 10120 06:01:10,277 --> 06:01:10,527 could do is make sure if you did 10121 06:01:11,744 --> 06:01:11,994 impose a new radar or if a new 10122 06:01:13,744 --> 06:01:13,994 rate were imposed to keep it 10123 06:01:15,511 --> 06:01:15,761 outside of the abatements in 10124 06:01:17,511 --> 06:01:17,761 that first year and then put it 10125 06:01:19,744 --> 06:01:19,994 back inside the abatements so 10126 06:01:21,511 --> 06:01:21,761 that rate would grow by the 10127 06:01:22,511 --> 06:01:22,761 abatement amount whether it's3 10128 06:01:24,077 --> 06:01:24,327 or8 or whatever the percentage 10129 06:01:26,277 --> 06:01:26,527 is so in that instance my you 10130 06:01:29,844 --> 06:01:30,094 can see that my tax bill or the 10131 06:01:30,511 --> 06:01:30,761 tax rate would go from3 dollars 10132 06:01:33,744 --> 06:01:33,994 66 cents to3 dollars 91 cents 10133 06:01:37,511 --> 06:01:37,761 and then treating that rate as 10134 06:01:38,277 --> 06:01:38,527 you're paying the full value of 10135 06:01:40,044 --> 06:01:40,294 it my tax bill instead of going 10136 06:01:44,011 --> 06:01:44,261 up by the3% would go up by16.9% 10137 06:01:47,511 --> 06:01:47,761 in Fy2029. and then when you 10138 06:01:49,511 --> 06:01:49,761 tuck it back in the entire tax 10139 06:01:52,244 --> 06:01:52,494 bill grows by3%. so it it is a 10140 06:01:54,044 --> 06:01:54,294 way that you if you wanted to 10141 06:01:56,277 --> 06:01:56,527 generate revenue in the short 10142 06:01:58,044 --> 06:01:58,294 term that would grow steadily in 10143 06:01:59,844 --> 06:02:00,094 the longer term that is an 10144 06:02:00,411 --> 06:02:00,661 option that could be 10145 06:02:03,544 --> 06:02:03,794 consideredgain not saying that 10146 06:02:05,644 --> 06:02:05,894 it is a good or bad option but 10147 06:02:06,311 --> 06:02:06,561 it is an option. 10148 06:02:10,077 --> 06:02:10,327 so in table4h this is taking the 10149 06:02:12,011 --> 06:02:12,261 two previous scenarios of you 10150 06:02:13,744 --> 06:02:13,994 get rid of the abatements and 10151 06:02:16,277 --> 06:02:16,527 you attach this rate of of 25 10152 06:02:18,211 --> 06:02:18,461 cents and just let it go as it 10153 06:02:20,244 --> 06:02:20,494 does. so you can see again the 10154 06:02:22,277 --> 06:02:22,527 rate is3 dollars 91 cents in 10155 06:02:25,511 --> 06:02:25,761 table4h but without 10156 06:02:26,311 --> 06:02:26,561 abatements and putting the full 10157 06:02:28,011 --> 06:02:28,261 value of everything instead of 10158 06:02:31,477 --> 06:02:31,727 going up by 97% my tax bill more 10159 06:02:33,511 --> 06:02:33,761 than doubles by it goes up by 10160 06:02:35,677 --> 06:02:35,927 10.5% and then would 10161 06:02:40,011 --> 06:02:40,261 grow by3.83.94% going forward 10162 06:02:42,311 --> 06:02:42,561 because that's how my assessed 10163 06:02:43,744 --> 06:02:43,994 value would grow after 10164 06:02:45,744 --> 06:02:45,994 depreciation in the scenario 10165 06:02:47,944 --> 06:02:48,194 that I've sat here.able for i 10166 06:02:50,277 --> 06:02:50,527 is 10167 06:02:54,011 --> 06:02:54,261 a a scenario that was put 10168 06:02:55,911 --> 06:02:56,161 together based on some previous 10169 06:02:58,644 --> 06:02:58,894 proposals that were put forward 10170 06:03:03,711 --> 06:03:03,961 most notably during I believe 10171 06:03:04,377 --> 06:03:04,627 the 2020 10172 06:03:07,744 --> 06:03:07,994 3 legislative session where 10173 06:03:09,477 --> 06:03:09,727 assembly member Anderson brought 10174 06:03:11,477 --> 06:03:11,727 assembly joint resolution one 10175 06:03:13,511 --> 06:03:13,761 which would have proposed to 10176 06:03:15,744 --> 06:03:15,994 amend the Nevada constitution to 10177 06:03:18,011 --> 06:03:18,261 reset depreciation depreciation 10178 06:03:20,211 --> 06:03:20,461 and the partial abatements when 10179 06:03:22,211 --> 06:03:22,461 a property is sold. so this 10180 06:03:24,011 --> 06:03:24,261 is one that couldn't happen in 10181 06:03:26,044 --> 06:03:26,294 Fy2029 because it requires 10182 06:03:27,777 --> 06:03:28,027 constitutional amendment and it 10183 06:03:29,777 --> 06:03:30,027 couldn't take effect in all 10184 06:03:30,377 --> 06:03:30,627 likelihood that quickly but 10185 06:03:34,044 --> 06:03:34,294 to put it out there I ran the 10186 06:03:36,011 --> 06:03:36,261 scenario on my house and if you 10187 06:03:38,044 --> 06:03:38,294 reset the depreciation and 10188 06:03:39,777 --> 06:03:40,027 partial abatements upon the sale 10189 06:03:42,277 --> 06:03:42,527 of the property in Fy2029 my 10190 06:03:44,511 --> 06:03:44,761 tax bill quadruples or more than 10191 06:03:46,277 --> 06:03:46,527 quadruples it would go up 10192 06:03:51,511 --> 06:03:51,761 by327.9%.gain this is a scenario 10193 06:03:53,511 --> 06:03:53,761 that would have only occurred 10194 06:03:55,844 --> 06:03:56,094 when a property is sold but 10195 06:03:57,777 --> 06:03:58,027 when a property is sold and 10196 06:03:59,777 --> 06:04:00,027 especially on older properties 10197 06:04:00,411 --> 06:04:00,661 you could have potentially have 10198 06:04:01,077 --> 06:04:01,327 fairly dras 10199 06:04:03,744 --> 06:04:03,994 tic effects as it shows 10200 06:04:06,011 --> 06:04:06,261 here.gain not a value judgment 10201 06:04:08,277 --> 06:04:08,527 of anything other than showing 10202 06:04:11,744 --> 06:04:11,994 that this is the effect of of 10203 06:04:13,511 --> 06:04:13,761 what would have happened on my 10204 06:04:15,511 --> 06:04:15,761 house if I were to sell it and 10205 06:04:17,511 --> 06:04:17,761 this is the property tax bill 10206 06:04:20,044 --> 06:04:20,294 that my knew or the new owners 10207 06:04:21,777 --> 06:04:22,027 of my home if they still would 10208 06:04:22,411 --> 06:04:22,661 want it after our basement 10209 06:04:25,844 --> 06:04:26,094 flooded yesterday would would 10210 06:04:26,511 --> 06:04:26,761 be paying 10211 06:04:29,511 --> 06:04:29,761 and so then on the last page is 10212 06:04:31,777 --> 06:04:32,027 tables4J and4k which is 10213 06:04:33,777 --> 06:04:34,027 basically a comparison of all of 10214 06:04:35,777 --> 06:04:36,027 these scenarios so you can see 10215 06:04:37,511 --> 06:04:37,761 the bottom line of the taxes 10216 06:04:39,511 --> 06:04:39,761 that would be due4J is showing 10217 06:04:41,777 --> 06:04:42,027 what the annual tax would be and 10218 06:04:43,844 --> 06:04:44,094 then4k is showing what the 10219 06:04:45,511 --> 06:04:45,761 difference is so you can see 10220 06:04:47,511 --> 06:04:47,761 that ranges from a difference 10221 06:04:51,511 --> 06:04:51,761 of1234 dollars over 10 years by 10222 06:04:54,077 --> 06:04:54,327 changing it from3% to4% to 10223 06:04:55,877 --> 06:04:56,127 alternate scenario eight or if 10224 06:04:56,577 --> 06:04:56,827 you did the reset upon sale 10225 06:04:59,777 --> 06:05:00,027 it would be just over63,000 10226 06:05:01,777 --> 06:05:02,027 dollars in additional taxes over 10227 06:05:03,777 --> 06:05:04,027 that 10 year period. This is the 10228 06:05:05,511 --> 06:05:05,761 meat of what the chair 10229 06:05:06,277 --> 06:05:06,527 asked for these are the 10230 06:05:08,011 --> 06:05:08,261 scenarios that were put 10231 06:05:09,777 --> 06:05:10,027 together. there are all kinds of 10232 06:05:11,511 --> 06:05:11,761 other scenarios that could be 10233 06:05:12,311 --> 06:05:12,561 run relating to property tax but 10234 06:05:14,277 --> 06:05:14,527 again I would note that 10235 06:05:17,777 --> 06:05:18,027 realistically what is the one 10236 06:05:18,477 --> 06:05:18,727 lever that you have to 10237 06:05:23,511 --> 06:05:23,761 pull in order to actually gain 10238 06:05:24,244 --> 06:05:24,494 revenue unless you're going to 10239 06:05:26,011 --> 06:05:26,261 do something outside of the 10240 06:05:27,977 --> 06:05:28,227 partial abatements it it really 10241 06:05:29,711 --> 06:05:29,961 has to do with the abatements 10242 06:05:31,511 --> 06:05:31,761 because the abatements limit the 10243 06:05:32,244 --> 06:05:32,494 amount of taxes that can be paid 10244 06:05:34,311 --> 06:05:34,561 which in turn limits the amount 10245 06:05:36,011 --> 06:05:36,261 of revenue that is received by 10246 06:05:37,677 --> 06:05:37,927 the affected government who 10247 06:05:38,244 --> 06:05:38,494 imposes 10248 06:05:43,877 --> 06:05:44,127 so then in table5 10249 06:05:46,477 --> 06:05:46,727 there are a number of statistics 10250 06:05:48,244 --> 06:05:48,494 that we've put together relating 10251 06:05:51,744 --> 06:05:51,994 to the property tax in 10252 06:05:53,744 --> 06:05:53,994 Nevada and this is all 10253 06:05:54,277 --> 06:05:54,527 information from the department 10254 06:05:56,011 --> 06:05:56,261 of taxation and again I want to 10255 06:05:58,011 --> 06:05:58,261 thank Jeff Mitchell and his 10256 06:05:59,744 --> 06:05:59,994 staff for helping with this 10257 06:06:01,511 --> 06:06:01,761 so this is information on the 10258 06:06:03,511 --> 06:06:03,761 total number of parcels the 10259 06:06:05,777 --> 06:06:06,027 total assessed value how that 10260 06:06:07,744 --> 06:06:07,994 changes from year to year the 10261 06:06:09,744 --> 06:06:09,994 taxes due before and after the 10262 06:06:11,511 --> 06:06:11,761 abatements and then the 10263 06:06:13,511 --> 06:06:13,761 cumulative amount in the last 10264 06:06:14,211 --> 06:06:14,461 column in table ive is when you 10265 06:06:16,477 --> 06:06:16,727 start adding them up the total 10266 06:06:19,744 --> 06:06:19,994 estimated abated revenue for 10267 06:06:21,744 --> 06:06:21,994 each fiscal year that is the end 10268 06:06:24,277 --> 06:06:24,527 result is how much tax was not 10269 06:06:26,244 --> 06:06:26,494 paidgain depending on your point 10270 06:06:28,477 --> 06:06:28,727 of view is this is a a good 10271 06:06:31,811 --> 06:06:32,061 thing for taxpayers or not maybe 10272 06:06:33,744 --> 06:06:33,994 not so good of a thing for local 10273 06:06:35,744 --> 06:06:35,994 governments depending on which 10274 06:06:37,744 --> 06:06:37,994 side of that spectrum you fall. 10275 06:06:39,744 --> 06:06:39,994 so after that there are four 10276 06:06:40,477 --> 06:06:40,727 charts that I put together that 10277 06:06:43,511 --> 06:06:43,761 kind of graphically display some 10278 06:06:44,177 --> 06:06:44,427 of these statistics 10279 06:06:46,311 --> 06:06:46,561 because some people will 10280 06:06:50,211 --> 06:06:50,461 be more in tune with seeing a 10281 06:06:51,744 --> 06:06:51,994 chart than they would be in 10282 06:06:53,777 --> 06:06:54,027 seeing the numbers so5 a chart5 10283 06:06:55,977 --> 06:06:56,227 a is the the number of parcels 10284 06:06:57,711 --> 06:06:57,961 and you could see that there's 10285 06:06:59,477 --> 06:06:59,727 been a fairly steady growth in 10286 06:07:00,211 --> 06:07:00,461 the number of parcels that are 10287 06:07:01,744 --> 06:07:01,994 subject to property tax in 10288 06:07:03,511 --> 06:07:03,761 Nevada especially after the 10289 06:07:05,511 --> 06:07:05,761 great recession it really 10290 06:07:07,477 --> 06:07:07,727 flattened out and the even in a 10291 06:07:08,177 --> 06:07:08,427 few years after the great 10292 06:07:09,977 --> 06:07:10,227 recession, it fell off a little 10293 06:07:12,244 --> 06:07:12,494 bit due to just a slowdown in 10294 06:07:14,477 --> 06:07:14,727 new construction was the primary 10295 06:07:16,144 --> 06:07:16,394 cause for that in chart5D 10296 06:07:21,477 --> 06:07:21,727 or tri5B you can see the 10297 06:07:22,244 --> 06:07:22,494 estimated tax due before and 10298 06:07:24,011 --> 06:07:24,261 after abatements and so up to 10299 06:07:26,277 --> 06:07:26,527 Fy2006 those lines are the same 10300 06:07:28,011 --> 06:07:28,261 because there were no abatements 10301 06:07:31,477 --> 06:07:31,727 and then in Fy2007 you had 10302 06:07:32,477 --> 06:07:32,727 abatements and this is one of 10303 06:07:34,244 --> 06:07:34,494 the charts that I think shows 10304 06:07:35,744 --> 06:07:35,994 one of the reasons why the 10305 06:07:37,744 --> 06:07:37,994 legislature tackled abatements 10306 06:07:39,744 --> 06:07:39,994 in the first place because if 10307 06:07:41,744 --> 06:07:41,994 the abatements had not been put 10308 06:07:43,511 --> 06:07:43,761 into place you would have had 10309 06:07:44,111 --> 06:07:44,361 the blue line and that's the 10310 06:07:44,744 --> 06:07:44,994 amount of taxes that would have 10311 06:07:46,111 --> 06:07:46,361 been paid in some instances 10312 06:07:46,644 --> 06:07:46,894 again people 10313 06:07:49,477 --> 06:07:49,727 would have been paying had 10314 06:07:50,411 --> 06:07:50,661 double digit increases30% or 10315 06:07:51,977 --> 06:07:52,227 more in their tax bill in a 10316 06:07:54,177 --> 06:07:54,427 single year. The tax 10317 06:07:55,977 --> 06:07:56,227 actually paid after the 10318 06:07:57,944 --> 06:07:58,194 abatements not so much. And so 10319 06:07:59,711 --> 06:07:59,961 that was kind of the function of 10320 06:08:01,477 --> 06:08:01,727 the abatements. but then when 10321 06:08:02,444 --> 06:08:02,694 you and this chart you can 10322 06:08:04,244 --> 06:08:04,494 see one of the other things that 10323 06:08:05,944 --> 06:08:06,194 the abatements did is 10324 06:08:10,244 --> 06:08:10,494 it not only limited the growth 10325 06:08:13,744 --> 06:08:13,994 of property taxes in the the 10326 06:08:17,477 --> 06:08:17,727 boom period it also was a 10327 06:08:18,444 --> 06:08:18,694 stabilizer for local government 10328 06:08:20,244 --> 06:08:20,494 revenue during the great 10329 06:08:23,744 --> 06:08:23,994 recession because of a lag in 10330 06:08:26,011 --> 06:08:26,261 the assessed value and what 10331 06:08:28,011 --> 06:08:28,261 ultimately was happening in the 10332 06:08:29,477 --> 06:08:29,727 early parts of the Great 10333 06:08:30,511 --> 06:08:30,761 Recession is assessed values 10334 06:08:31,877 --> 06:08:32,127 were falling 10335 06:08:35,511 --> 06:08:35,761 the val the market value or the 10336 06:08:37,511 --> 06:08:37,761 market for real estate was 10337 06:08:39,677 --> 06:08:39,927 crashing but in a lot of 10338 06:08:40,211 --> 06:08:40,461 instances 10339 06:08:43,944 --> 06:08:44,194 the reductions in assessed value 10340 06:08:45,844 --> 06:08:46,094 that were being seen were still 10341 06:08:49,711 --> 06:08:49,961 causing abatement so that it was 10342 06:08:50,411 --> 06:08:50,661 falling but it was not falling 10343 06:08:51,744 --> 06:08:51,994 enough to the point where you 10344 06:08:55,511 --> 06:08:55,761 would have actually paid less so 10345 06:08:57,511 --> 06:08:57,761 what ended up happening for a 10346 06:08:59,477 --> 06:08:59,727 lot of people in the first few, 10347 06:09:00,211 --> 06:09:00,461 couple of years at least of 10348 06:09:02,411 --> 06:09:02,661 the Great Recession is their 10349 06:09:05,511 --> 06:09:05,761 home values were decreasing but 10350 06:09:07,511 --> 06:09:07,761 even at that decreased level 10351 06:09:08,177 --> 06:09:08,427 there were still abatements that 10352 06:09:10,011 --> 06:09:10,261 were being caused because their 10353 06:09:11,711 --> 06:09:11,961 tax bill still couldn't go up by 10354 06:09:13,977 --> 06:09:14,227 more than3%. So a lot of people 10355 06:09:14,677 --> 06:09:14,927 saw their tax bill still 10356 06:09:15,844 --> 06:09:16,094 increasing but they were still 10357 06:09:16,511 --> 06:09:16,761 paying less 10358 06:09:19,711 --> 06:09:19,961 than they would have if they had 10359 06:09:20,477 --> 06:09:20,727 been paying based on their 10360 06:09:22,011 --> 06:09:22,261 assessed value because it hadn't 10361 06:09:24,244 --> 06:09:24,494 fallen enough for their tax 10362 06:09:25,977 --> 06:09:26,227 bills to fall and in some 10363 06:09:27,844 --> 06:09:28,094 instances there were 10364 06:09:31,744 --> 06:09:31,994 people who still continued to 10365 06:09:33,511 --> 06:09:33,761 pay3% all the way through 10366 06:09:34,211 --> 06:09:34,461 because their assessed values 10367 06:09:36,177 --> 06:09:36,427 never fell below the point where 10368 06:09:37,977 --> 06:09:38,227 they would have been paying less 10369 06:09:40,544 --> 06:09:40,794 but it cca it ended up 10370 06:09:41,011 --> 06:09:41,261 causing 10371 06:09:44,277 --> 06:09:44,527 in some instances revenue to 10372 06:09:46,244 --> 06:09:46,494 stabilize not completely 10373 06:09:48,011 --> 06:09:48,261 because you could see that there 10374 06:09:49,777 --> 06:09:50,027 was still a giant dip in 10375 06:09:52,011 --> 06:09:52,261 revenues but it caused things 10376 06:09:53,644 --> 06:09:53,894 to fall less than they might 10377 06:09:54,211 --> 06:09:54,461 have 10378 06:09:59,744 --> 06:09:59,994 Chart5C is taking those annual 10379 06:10:01,511 --> 06:10:01,761 and cumulative abatement 10380 06:10:02,244 --> 06:10:02,494 amounts. uh, and you can see 10381 06:10:04,211 --> 06:10:04,461 that gap growing over time to 10382 06:10:07,711 --> 06:10:07,961 it's over18 billion dollars over 10383 06:10:09,777 --> 06:10:10,027 time but you can see that amount 10384 06:10:12,244 --> 06:10:12,494 of abatements per fiscal year 10385 06:10:14,011 --> 06:10:14,261 has stayed fairly stable um, 10386 06:10:16,377 --> 06:10:16,627 between1 billion dollars and 2 10387 06:10:17,044 --> 06:10:17,294 billion in 10388 06:10:21,477 --> 06:10:21,727 abated revenue that is not 10389 06:10:23,511 --> 06:10:23,761 paid every year. Um, that amount 10390 06:10:24,244 --> 06:10:24,494 over the last couple of fiscal 10391 06:10:25,811 --> 06:10:26,061 years is falling a little bit 10392 06:10:27,777 --> 06:10:28,027 and I think in a lot of 10393 06:10:29,777 --> 06:10:30,027 instances it's because assessed 10394 06:10:31,977 --> 06:10:32,227 values are not growing as fast 10395 06:10:33,711 --> 06:10:33,961 as the tax bill so that gap is 10396 06:10:34,377 --> 06:10:34,627 is 10397 06:10:39,511 --> 06:10:39,761 and then in chart5D this one is 10398 06:10:41,511 --> 06:10:41,761 messy but we like messy charts 10399 06:10:43,477 --> 06:10:43,727 in the fiscal analysis division. 10400 06:10:45,711 --> 06:10:45,961 this puts together the change 10401 06:10:47,511 --> 06:10:47,761 in assessed value with the 10402 06:10:49,511 --> 06:10:49,761 change in taxes due before and 10403 06:10:51,511 --> 06:10:51,761 after abatements and so it 10404 06:10:52,211 --> 06:10:52,461 really wouldn't surprise you to 10405 06:10:54,011 --> 06:10:54,261 see that the change in assessed 10406 06:10:55,744 --> 06:10:55,994 value and the change in the tax 10407 06:10:57,477 --> 06:10:57,727 due before abatements they 10408 06:10:58,244 --> 06:10:58,494 should move fairly close to each 10409 06:11:00,311 --> 06:11:00,561 other. it's the one that is 10410 06:11:01,977 --> 06:11:02,227 the variable here is the change 10411 06:11:04,277 --> 06:11:04,527 in the tax due after abatement 10412 06:11:05,844 --> 06:11:06,094 and so in the fiscal years where 10413 06:11:09,511 --> 06:11:09,761 the change in the tax due after 10414 06:11:11,511 --> 06:11:11,761 the abatement so when your taxes 10415 06:11:12,244 --> 06:11:12,494 after abatement are growing 10416 06:11:13,977 --> 06:11:14,227 faster than the assessed value 10417 06:11:15,977 --> 06:11:16,227 or the the change in the tax 10418 06:11:17,744 --> 06:11:17,994 due before the abatements those 10419 06:11:19,744 --> 06:11:19,994 are the times where your 10420 06:11:21,744 --> 06:11:21,994 assessed value is dropping and 10421 06:11:23,511 --> 06:11:23,761 so you may actually have your 10422 06:11:24,211 --> 06:11:24,461 revenues growing faster because 10423 06:11:26,244 --> 06:11:26,494 of the abatements then they 10424 06:11:28,477 --> 06:11:28,727 would have otherwise and so you 10425 06:11:30,011 --> 06:11:30,261 see this especially in the 10426 06:11:32,044 --> 06:11:32,294 aftermath of the great recession 10427 06:11:34,044 --> 06:11:34,294 and even a little bit right now 10428 06:11:35,511 --> 06:11:35,761 where you can see that that 10429 06:11:36,044 --> 06:11:36,294 purple line which represents the 10430 06:11:37,977 --> 06:11:38,227 change in the tax due after 10431 06:11:41,511 --> 06:11:41,761 abatement is is less or is 10432 06:11:43,477 --> 06:11:43,727 greater than these changes in 10433 06:11:44,144 --> 06:11:44,394 assessed value or the change in 10434 06:11:46,344 --> 06:11:46,594 the tax that would have been 10435 06:11:46,911 --> 06:11:47,161 due before the payments 10436 06:11:50,344 --> 06:11:50,594 and so then lastly in table six 10437 06:11:54,311 --> 06:11:54,561 this is and 10438 06:11:58,011 --> 06:11:58,261 I this would not be my one of my 10439 06:11:59,977 --> 06:12:00,227 presentations on taxes without 10440 06:12:03,511 --> 06:12:03,761 some history as I have been 10441 06:12:05,711 --> 06:12:05,961 wont to do for this entire 10442 06:12:07,944 --> 06:12:08,194 interim. this is a table of some 10443 06:12:09,511 --> 06:12:09,761 key legislative and 10444 06:12:10,211 --> 06:12:10,461 constitutional history relating 10445 06:12:12,211 --> 06:12:12,461 to the property tax. I'm not 10446 06:12:13,977 --> 06:12:14,227 going to spend a lot of time on 10447 06:12:15,711 --> 06:12:15,961 this. In fact, I'm really not 10448 06:12:16,311 --> 06:12:16,561 going to spend any time on it 10449 06:12:18,177 --> 06:12:18,427 other than pointing it out, but 10450 06:12:19,977 --> 06:12:20,227 I went through and pulled out 10451 06:12:21,777 --> 06:12:22,027 some key provisions so going all 10452 06:12:22,511 --> 06:12:22,761 the way back to the original 10453 06:12:24,311 --> 06:12:24,561 constitution in1864 and it 10454 06:12:24,911 --> 06:12:25,161 basically 10455 06:12:28,311 --> 06:12:28,561 sets the stage for how we've 10456 06:12:30,311 --> 06:12:30,561 gotten to the property tax 10457 06:12:34,011 --> 06:12:34,261 system that we have now 10458 06:12:38,111 --> 06:12:38,361 including how we got to35% of 10459 06:12:38,811 --> 06:12:39,061 the 10460 06:12:43,511 --> 06:12:43,761 taxable value for assessed value 10461 06:12:45,711 --> 06:12:45,961 why we have depreciation on 10462 06:12:46,477 --> 06:12:46,727 improvements and not land and 10463 06:12:47,744 --> 06:12:47,994 things like that and that's an 10464 06:12:49,977 --> 06:12:50,227 iterative process that we 10465 06:12:51,511 --> 06:12:51,761 went through and this goes all 10466 06:12:53,644 --> 06:12:53,894 the way through to 2023 was the 10467 06:12:54,344 --> 06:12:54,594 the biggest significant 10468 06:12:59,511 --> 06:12:59,761 we outlined it in this so 10469 06:13:00,211 --> 06:13:00,461 again madam chairir, I want to 10470 06:13:01,744 --> 06:13:01,994 thank the department of taxation 10471 06:13:03,777 --> 06:13:04,027 and my staff for all of their 10472 06:13:05,711 --> 06:13:05,961 help with this and I know this 10473 06:13:07,744 --> 06:13:07,994 is a lot of information and I am 10474 06:13:09,844 --> 06:13:10,094 open to any questions that I am 10475 06:13:10,511 --> 06:13:10,761 able to answer thank you. 10476 06:13:12,244 --> 06:13:12,494 thank you for your 10477 06:13:13,811 --> 06:13:14,061 presentation.embers do you have 10478 06:13:14,477 --> 06:13:14,727 any questions? 10479 06:13:21,977 --> 06:13:22,227 thank you so much and again 10480 06:13:23,544 --> 06:13:23,794 thank you very much not only for 10481 06:13:24,277 --> 06:13:24,527 recognizing that I brought a 10482 06:13:25,977 --> 06:13:26,227 bill forward and continue to 10483 06:13:27,977 --> 06:13:28,227 feel that we do have some issues 10484 06:13:29,744 --> 06:13:29,994 but also for making it very 10485 06:13:31,744 --> 06:13:31,994 clear that it's the counties 10486 06:13:33,977 --> 06:13:34,227 that are in the cities that are 10487 06:13:35,977 --> 06:13:36,227 being hit harder than the than 10488 06:13:38,277 --> 06:13:38,527 the status when it comes to the 10489 06:13:39,911 --> 06:13:40,161 current property tax structure 10490 06:13:40,577 --> 06:13:40,827 because it is 10491 06:13:43,977 --> 06:13:44,227 again the property tax funds 10492 06:13:46,011 --> 06:13:46,261 it's number 2 you you you said I 10493 06:13:47,744 --> 06:13:47,994 think for the most cities 10494 06:13:50,011 --> 06:13:50,261 counties is that correct for 10495 06:13:51,744 --> 06:13:51,994 thank you assembly member 10496 06:13:53,777 --> 06:13:54,027 Anderson Michael Nakamoto with 10497 06:13:55,477 --> 06:13:55,727 the fiscal analysis division for 10498 06:13:56,211 --> 06:13:56,461 the record it's either number 10499 06:13:59,511 --> 06:13:59,761 1 or2 in in a lot of 10500 06:14:00,277 --> 06:14:00,527 instances it's consolidated 10501 06:14:03,744 --> 06:14:03,994 tax that's number one and then 10502 06:14:05,744 --> 06:14:05,994 followed by property tax but 10503 06:14:07,744 --> 06:14:07,994 in some instances it may be 10504 06:14:08,511 --> 06:14:08,761 property tax that's number one 10505 06:14:09,877 --> 06:14:10,127 but it is a significant portion 10506 06:14:13,977 --> 06:14:14,227 and especially for local 10507 06:14:15,877 --> 06:14:16,127 governments for the state 10508 06:14:17,511 --> 06:14:17,761 again it's the state education 10509 06:14:19,777 --> 06:14:20,027 fund that is primarily affected 10510 06:14:21,777 --> 06:14:22,027 for us and then our debt 10511 06:14:23,477 --> 06:14:23,727 rates to a lesser extent but 10512 06:14:24,277 --> 06:14:24,527 you're absolutely correct. this 10513 06:14:26,011 --> 06:14:26,261 is primarily local governments 10514 06:14:27,544 --> 06:14:27,794 that are affected. I really 10515 06:14:28,277 --> 06:14:28,527 appreciate that clarification 10516 06:14:30,244 --> 06:14:30,494 and then my second question 10517 06:14:32,211 --> 06:14:32,461 again this is great information 10518 06:14:34,011 --> 06:14:34,261 really appreciate it want to 10519 06:14:35,744 --> 06:14:35,994 make sure it's it's very clear, 10520 06:14:38,277 --> 06:14:38,527 I do appreciate all of it. 10521 06:14:39,877 --> 06:14:40,127 does the county however get to 10522 06:14:40,544 --> 06:14:40,794 make a decision 10523 06:14:42,077 --> 06:14:42,327 when there is a 10524 06:14:44,477 --> 06:14:44,727 I'm not sure exactly what it's 10525 06:14:45,777 --> 06:14:46,027 called like if someone were a 10526 06:14:47,511 --> 06:14:47,761 veteran and so they don't have 10527 06:14:49,777 --> 06:14:50,027 to pay the the same amount of 10528 06:14:52,277 --> 06:14:52,527 property taxes or there's a a a 10529 06:14:54,311 --> 06:14:54,561 cut of how much property taxes 10530 06:14:56,277 --> 06:14:56,527 they have to pay based upon 10531 06:14:58,244 --> 06:14:58,494 extenuating circumstances is 10532 06:15:00,144 --> 06:15:00,394 that a county decision or is 10533 06:15:00,744 --> 06:15:00,994 that a state law decision? 10534 06:15:03,977 --> 06:15:04,227 thank you assembly member 10535 06:15:05,744 --> 06:15:05,994 andersonmi Nakamoto with fiscal 10536 06:15:07,511 --> 06:15:07,761 analysis division for the record 10537 06:15:09,777 --> 06:15:10,027 there are a number of exemptions 10538 06:15:12,277 --> 06:15:12,527 that are listed in statute from 10539 06:15:15,744 --> 06:15:15,994 the property tax in most of 10540 06:15:18,311 --> 06:15:18,561 those instances there has to be 10541 06:15:19,511 --> 06:15:19,761 some sort of condition that is 10542 06:15:21,544 --> 06:15:21,794 met, um, for example, you have 10543 06:15:23,877 --> 06:15:24,127 to be an eligible veteran. 10544 06:15:26,044 --> 06:15:26,294 you have to be a veteran who 10545 06:15:28,011 --> 06:15:28,261 is disabled you're a 10546 06:15:30,577 --> 06:15:30,827 charitable institution education 10547 06:15:31,277 --> 06:15:31,527 whatever it is you have 10548 06:15:35,511 --> 06:15:35,761 to meet some sort of of 10549 06:15:36,077 --> 06:15:36,327 criteria that 10550 06:15:40,211 --> 06:15:40,461 exists the state of Nevada and 10551 06:15:41,977 --> 06:15:42,227 it's something that I actually 10552 06:15:43,977 --> 06:15:44,227 meant to put in the the table of 10553 06:15:46,211 --> 06:15:46,461 legislative history back in 10554 06:15:49,744 --> 06:15:49,994 the1973 session the 10555 06:15:50,544 --> 06:15:50,794 legislature created a 10556 06:15:54,211 --> 06:15:54,461 property tax rebate system for 10557 06:15:57,744 --> 06:15:57,994 eligible senior citizens so 10558 06:15:59,511 --> 06:15:59,761 if you met certain criteria 10559 06:16:01,511 --> 06:16:01,761 related to your income related 10560 06:16:03,511 --> 06:16:03,761 to the value of your property 10561 06:16:05,744 --> 06:16:05,994 and so on and and age being one 10562 06:16:07,477 --> 06:16:07,727 of them because this was 10563 06:16:09,477 --> 06:16:09,727 designed for senior citizens you 10564 06:16:11,744 --> 06:16:11,994 could apply for a rebate of some 10565 06:16:14,211 --> 06:16:14,461 of your property tax bill. This 10566 06:16:15,977 --> 06:16:16,227 was actually a a program that 10567 06:16:17,744 --> 06:16:17,994 was funded through state money. 10568 06:16:19,511 --> 06:16:19,761 we didn't actually take money 10569 06:16:20,211 --> 06:16:20,461 back from the local governments 10570 06:16:20,911 --> 06:16:21,161 they were held harmless 10571 06:16:25,711 --> 06:16:25,961 and it was a way to provide some 10572 06:16:28,011 --> 06:16:28,261 sort of property tax relief to 10573 06:16:31,511 --> 06:16:31,761 people who had fixed incomes who 10574 06:16:33,977 --> 06:16:34,227 may may have had difficulty 10575 06:16:35,777 --> 06:16:36,027 paying their property tax bills. 10576 06:16:37,744 --> 06:16:37,994 This was a casualty of the great 10577 06:16:39,744 --> 06:16:39,994 recession the program went 10578 06:16:42,244 --> 06:16:42,494 away it was very briefly revived 10579 06:16:44,244 --> 06:16:44,494 in the 201f session I believe it 10580 06:16:47,511 --> 06:16:47,761 lasted for one fiscal year and 10581 06:16:49,511 --> 06:16:49,761 then it has not been brought 10582 06:16:50,577 --> 06:16:50,827 brought back since but in 10583 06:16:51,177 --> 06:16:51,427 terms of 10584 06:16:54,244 --> 06:16:54,494 things that aren't an exemption 10585 06:16:56,211 --> 06:16:56,461 like the ones that I had 10586 06:16:58,411 --> 06:16:58,661 mentioned previously assembly 10587 06:16:59,744 --> 06:16:59,994 member anderson that's the only 10588 06:17:01,511 --> 06:17:01,761 one that's coming to to my 10589 06:17:03,744 --> 06:17:03,994 mind off the top of my headhes 10590 06:17:05,511 --> 06:17:05,761 there are some local governments 10591 06:17:07,511 --> 06:17:07,761 who may have some sort of things 10592 06:17:08,211 --> 06:17:08,461 that they're doing at the local 10593 06:17:09,944 --> 06:17:10,194 level. I'm not aware of any of 10594 06:17:11,511 --> 06:17:11,761 them but I can't say with any 10595 06:17:13,511 --> 06:17:13,761 certainty that they are or not 10596 06:17:15,511 --> 06:17:15,761 and thank you chair thank you 10597 06:17:16,211 --> 06:17:16,461 for this much time because it 10598 06:17:18,277 --> 06:17:18,527 has been brought to my attention 10599 06:17:20,644 --> 06:17:20,894 from a county and also from a 10600 06:17:21,311 --> 06:17:21,561 city that there's 10601 06:17:23,844 --> 06:17:24,094 some exemptions that were 10602 06:17:24,411 --> 06:17:24,661 awarded 10603 06:17:29,877 --> 06:17:30,127 and let's just say19992001 they 10604 06:17:30,544 --> 06:17:30,794 continues to be with the 10605 06:17:31,111 --> 06:17:31,361 property. 10606 06:17:31,911 --> 06:17:32,161 it is sold 10607 06:17:35,511 --> 06:17:35,761 2 or three times but those 10608 06:17:36,144 --> 06:17:36,394 exemptions continue to be with 10609 06:17:37,777 --> 06:17:38,027 the property so I'm trying to 10610 06:17:39,511 --> 06:17:39,761 figure out if that's part of 10611 06:17:41,477 --> 06:17:41,727 this law or not and so thank you 10612 06:17:43,477 --> 06:17:43,727 so much but that is outside of 10613 06:17:45,477 --> 06:17:45,727 this presentation so I do 10614 06:17:46,244 --> 06:17:46,494 appreciate this time and thank 10615 06:17:48,044 --> 06:17:48,294 you for all that information to 10616 06:17:50,244 --> 06:17:50,494 answer your comment though 10617 06:17:52,011 --> 06:17:52,261 assembly member Andersonmi 10618 06:17:55,477 --> 06:17:55,727 Nakamoto for the record I 10619 06:17:56,277 --> 06:17:56,527 would have to go back and look 10620 06:17:58,011 --> 06:17:58,261 at some of those specific 10621 06:17:59,777 --> 06:18:00,027 exemptions because a lot of 10622 06:18:01,844 --> 06:18:02,094 those may apply to the parcel 10623 06:18:02,511 --> 06:18:02,761 depending on 10624 06:18:05,711 --> 06:18:05,961 some function of what that 10625 06:18:07,477 --> 06:18:07,727 parcel is being used for or some 10626 06:18:09,511 --> 06:18:09,761 condition that applies if there 10627 06:18:12,244 --> 06:18:12,494 is some change in the ownership 10628 06:18:15,511 --> 06:18:15,761 or the use that would trigger a 10629 06:18:16,211 --> 06:18:16,461 change to that that's what would 10630 06:18:18,211 --> 06:18:18,461 trigger that but unless there is 10631 06:18:19,977 --> 06:18:20,227 some sort of trigger that that 10632 06:18:22,011 --> 06:18:22,261 would make it ineligible it 10633 06:18:24,077 --> 06:18:24,327 would ordinarily stay eligible 10634 06:18:28,244 --> 06:18:28,494 for that exemption or or the 10635 06:18:30,177 --> 06:18:30,427 reduction in property. but 10636 06:18:31,944 --> 06:18:32,194 that is I think going to be 10637 06:18:33,711 --> 06:18:33,961 dependent on what the exemption 10638 06:18:35,944 --> 06:18:36,194 or the reduction is one of the 10639 06:18:37,511 --> 06:18:37,761 other things that I will note 10640 06:18:39,777 --> 06:18:40,027 and this goes back to the the 10641 06:18:41,477 --> 06:18:41,727 legislation that you previously 10642 06:18:43,977 --> 06:18:44,227 had brought on the reset of 10643 06:18:45,744 --> 06:18:45,994 the abatements the abatements 10644 06:18:47,977 --> 06:18:48,227 are not specific to the taxpayer 10645 06:18:49,744 --> 06:18:49,994 they're specific to the property 10646 06:18:51,977 --> 06:18:52,227 as well. So if you sell a house 10647 06:18:54,544 --> 06:18:54,794 yours and you let's say I 10648 06:18:55,111 --> 06:18:55,361 bought a new house 10649 06:18:58,211 --> 06:18:58,461 I would pay my tax bill 10650 06:18:59,711 --> 06:18:59,961 assuming it's single family 10651 06:19:01,711 --> 06:19:01,961 owner occupied and not my office 10652 06:19:03,677 --> 06:19:03,927 it would my tax bill would be 10653 06:19:07,477 --> 06:19:07,727 3 % higher than the previous 10654 06:19:08,044 --> 06:19:08,294 year what the previous owner 10655 06:19:10,211 --> 06:19:10,461 paid so the tho those abatements 10656 06:19:12,177 --> 06:19:12,427 stay with the property 10657 06:19:12,677 --> 06:19:12,927 they're not specific to the 10658 06:19:13,211 --> 06:19:13,461 taxpayer. 10659 06:19:19,694 --> 06:19:19,944 thank you for your presentation 10660 06:19:22,244 --> 06:19:22,494 so with that we'll close that 10661 06:19:23,977 --> 06:19:24,227 presentation cause the only 10662 06:19:25,777 --> 06:19:26,027 thing I can see is that you know 10663 06:19:27,744 --> 06:19:27,994 I should take property tax out 10664 06:19:29,744 --> 06:19:29,994 of any future abatement for 10665 06:19:30,311 --> 06:19:30,561 economic development and put it 10666 06:19:30,977 --> 06:19:31,227 back in the pot 10667 06:19:33,477 --> 06:19:33,727 but anyway that's for another 10668 06:19:38,011 --> 06:19:38,261 day so let's move to cause I 10669 06:19:39,511 --> 06:19:39,761 need to move to the work session 10670 06:19:40,211 --> 06:19:40,461 and then we'll come back to the 10671 06:19:43,477 --> 06:19:43,727 year to date so let's move to 10672 06:19:44,577 --> 06:19:44,827 agenda item number10 and do the 10673 06:19:45,244 --> 06:19:45,494 work session 10674 06:19:50,211 --> 06:19:50,461 believe madam chair the work 10675 06:19:51,877 --> 06:19:52,127 sessions agenda item111 10676 06:19:54,111 --> 06:19:54,361 yeah11 10677 06:19:58,211 --> 06:19:58,461 and and madam Chairmi 10678 06:20:00,244 --> 06:20:00,494 Nakamoto for the record I am up 10679 06:20:00,944 --> 06:20:01,194 here as 10680 06:20:04,444 --> 06:20:04,694 to answer any questions and 10681 06:20:06,011 --> 06:20:06,261 to be a phone or friend if 10682 06:20:07,977 --> 06:20:08,227 necessary haley Owens up in 10683 06:20:09,977 --> 06:20:10,227 carson City will be managing the 10684 06:20:12,044 --> 06:20:12,294 work session up from there so 10685 06:20:13,744 --> 06:20:13,994 Miss Owens I'm going to turn it 10686 06:20:16,144 --> 06:20:16,394 over to you for staff summary 10687 06:20:16,811 --> 06:20:17,061 of item a one. 10688 06:20:21,511 --> 06:20:21,761 you for the record Haley Owens 10689 06:20:22,244 --> 06:20:22,494 deputy fiscal analyst with the 10690 06:20:24,011 --> 06:20:24,261 fiscal analysis division 10691 06:20:25,777 --> 06:20:26,027 before jumping to item A one I 10692 06:20:26,377 --> 06:20:26,627 do have a little bit of 10693 06:20:28,277 --> 06:20:28,527 boilerplate language to read 10694 06:20:30,011 --> 06:20:30,261 a reminder before I go through 10695 06:20:31,711 --> 06:20:31,961 the work session document as 10696 06:20:33,711 --> 06:20:33,961 nonpartisan legislative staff we 10697 06:20:34,477 --> 06:20:34,727 as staff to this committee do 10698 06:20:36,011 --> 06:20:36,261 neither support nor oppose any 10699 06:20:38,311 --> 06:20:38,561 proposal or recommendation that 10700 06:20:39,844 --> 06:20:40,094 comes before the legislature and 10701 06:20:40,544 --> 06:20:40,794 this committee. 10702 06:20:43,477 --> 06:20:43,727 the work session document can be 10703 06:20:44,511 --> 06:20:44,761 accessed online as an exhibit on 10704 06:20:45,744 --> 06:20:45,994 the joint interim standing 10705 06:20:47,511 --> 06:20:47,761 Committee on revenue meetinget 10706 06:20:48,244 --> 06:20:48,494 page on the legislature's 10707 06:20:50,211 --> 06:20:50,461 website and committee members 10708 06:20:52,211 --> 06:20:52,461 are also in possession of paper 10709 06:20:52,877 --> 06:20:53,127 copies of the work session 10710 06:20:53,444 --> 06:20:53,694 document. 10711 06:20:55,744 --> 06:20:55,994 the purpose of the work session 10712 06:20:56,444 --> 06:20:56,694 document is to assist the 10713 06:20:58,044 --> 06:20:58,294 committee in deciding which 10714 06:21:00,011 --> 06:21:00,261 legislative measures and actions 10715 06:21:01,511 --> 06:21:01,761 it will request for 10716 06:21:03,877 --> 06:21:04,127 consideration during the 2027 10717 06:21:04,577 --> 06:21:04,827 legislative session 10718 06:21:09,477 --> 06:21:09,727 pursuant to NrS218d.160, the 10719 06:21:10,244 --> 06:21:10,494 committee is limited to10 10720 06:21:12,011 --> 06:21:12,261 legislative measures which 10721 06:21:13,744 --> 06:21:13,994 includes both bill draft 10722 06:21:15,511 --> 06:21:15,761 requests and requests for the 10723 06:21:16,144 --> 06:21:16,394 drafting of resolutions. 10724 06:21:19,511 --> 06:21:19,761 today's work session includes8 10725 06:21:21,511 --> 06:21:21,761 items for consideration the 10726 06:21:22,244 --> 06:21:22,494 items consist of recommendations 10727 06:21:24,044 --> 06:21:24,294 submitted by the chair or 10728 06:21:26,011 --> 06:21:26,261 committee members and that the 10729 06:21:26,711 --> 06:21:26,961 chair wishes to bring forward 10730 06:21:27,377 --> 06:21:27,627 for consideration 10731 06:21:30,244 --> 06:21:30,494 the members of the committee do 10732 06:21:31,977 --> 06:21:32,227 not have to support or oppose 10733 06:21:32,577 --> 06:21:32,827 the recommendations in the work 10734 06:21:34,244 --> 06:21:34,494 session document the document 10735 06:21:36,244 --> 06:21:36,494 organizes the recommendations 10736 06:21:37,977 --> 06:21:38,227 such that committee members can 10737 06:21:39,511 --> 06:21:39,761 review them and decide whether 10738 06:21:41,511 --> 06:21:41,761 they wish to accept, reject, 10739 06:21:43,711 --> 06:21:43,961 modify or take no action on 10740 06:21:44,477 --> 06:21:44,727 them. so with that I will begin 10741 06:21:46,144 --> 06:21:46,394 with the first item on the work 10742 06:21:46,811 --> 06:21:47,061 session document 10743 06:21:49,511 --> 06:21:49,761 the first item for consideration 10744 06:21:51,477 --> 06:21:51,727 before the committee is item A 10745 06:21:52,177 --> 06:21:52,427 one concerning economic 10746 06:21:54,177 --> 06:21:54,427 development and tax incentives. 10747 06:21:56,211 --> 06:21:56,461 The proposal is to request the 10748 06:21:58,211 --> 06:21:58,461 drafting of a bill to repeal the 10749 06:22:02,011 --> 06:22:02,261 provisions of nrs360.754 10750 06:22:03,511 --> 06:22:03,761 allowing for the partial 10751 06:22:04,077 --> 06:22:04,327 abatement of certain taxes 10752 06:22:06,244 --> 06:22:06,494 imposed on new or expanded data 10753 06:22:08,277 --> 06:22:08,527 centers and to enact a 10754 06:22:10,211 --> 06:22:10,461 moratorium on the creation or 10755 06:22:12,111 --> 06:22:12,361 expansion of any data centers in 10756 06:22:12,777 --> 06:22:13,027 the state. 10757 06:22:15,477 --> 06:22:15,727 this recommendation is proposed 10758 06:22:16,144 --> 06:22:16,394 by senator neal chair of this 10759 06:22:16,811 --> 06:22:17,061 committee. 10760 06:22:22,211 --> 06:22:22,461 thank you Missowwens members are 10761 06:22:23,844 --> 06:22:24,094 there any questions on a one? 10762 06:22:28,711 --> 06:22:28,961 so similar remember cole 10763 06:22:34,011 --> 06:22:34,261 thank you so much chair madam 10764 06:22:35,744 --> 06:22:35,994 chairir I want to ask 10765 06:22:37,477 --> 06:22:37,727 specifically about the abatement 10766 06:22:38,611 --> 06:22:38,861 discretion piece because I think 10767 06:22:41,511 --> 06:22:41,761 it's relative context for the 10768 06:22:42,277 --> 06:22:42,527 recommendation since I'm new 10769 06:22:43,977 --> 06:22:44,227 to this committee and revenue 10770 06:22:45,477 --> 06:22:45,727 discussions generally I just 10771 06:22:46,211 --> 06:22:46,461 would appreciate the the 10772 06:22:48,277 --> 06:22:48,527 assistance here as I 10773 06:22:50,011 --> 06:22:50,261 understand it during the 2025 10774 06:22:52,011 --> 06:22:52,261 regular session your committee 10775 06:22:55,511 --> 06:22:55,761 considered SB461 which would 10776 06:22:56,144 --> 06:22:56,394 have given the boardard of 10777 06:22:57,711 --> 06:22:57,961 Economic Development discretion 10778 06:22:59,744 --> 06:22:59,994 to limit, reduce or deny 10779 06:23:00,311 --> 06:23:00,561 abatements for projects based on 10780 06:23:00,977 --> 06:23:01,227 water 10781 06:23:03,511 --> 06:23:03,761 use environmental impact and 10782 06:23:05,711 --> 06:23:05,961 other factors that bill never 10783 06:23:07,477 --> 06:23:07,727 came up for committee votes and 10784 06:23:08,511 --> 06:23:08,761 did not move forward but a few 10785 06:23:10,011 --> 06:23:10,261 months later that same kind of 10786 06:23:11,811 --> 06:23:12,061 discretionary authority letting 10787 06:23:14,044 --> 06:23:14,294 the board deny reduce or 10788 06:23:15,777 --> 06:23:16,027 condition an abatement when s 10789 06:23:17,511 --> 06:23:17,761 when the full amount is not in 10790 06:23:18,277 --> 06:23:18,527 the state's best interest pass 10791 06:23:21,511 --> 06:23:21,761 the senate as part of AB594 10792 06:23:22,244 --> 06:23:22,494 unanimously 21 to 0 and was 10793 06:23:22,811 --> 06:23:23,061 signed into law. 10794 06:23:24,577 --> 06:23:24,827 so 10795 06:23:25,977 --> 06:23:26,227 I guess my question is the 10796 06:23:27,511 --> 06:23:27,761 legislature already gave the 10797 06:23:29,477 --> 06:23:29,727 board a case by case tool less 10798 06:23:31,477 --> 06:23:31,727 than a year ago and I'm trying 10799 06:23:32,411 --> 06:23:32,661 to understand why the 10800 06:23:33,611 --> 06:23:33,861 discretionary review 10801 06:23:35,744 --> 06:23:35,994 that currently exists is not 10802 06:23:37,511 --> 06:23:37,761 sufficient and a full moratorium 10803 06:23:39,711 --> 06:23:39,961 is the better path instead so 10804 06:23:41,844 --> 06:23:42,094 thank you for that question so 10805 06:23:43,977 --> 06:23:44,227 you have not been a member of 10806 06:23:46,011 --> 06:23:46,261 this committee but we did have a 10807 06:23:48,011 --> 06:23:48,261 very specific conversation with 10808 06:23:49,944 --> 06:23:50,194 goed and Mr Burns in this 10809 06:23:51,777 --> 06:23:52,027 committee I don't know a couple 10810 06:23:53,511 --> 06:23:53,761 months ago where I asked the 10811 06:23:56,277 --> 06:23:56,527 direct question on what we were 10812 06:23:59,744 --> 06:23:59,994 doing around that provision in 10813 06:24:01,477 --> 06:24:01,727 law that basically said they 10814 06:24:03,511 --> 06:24:03,761 needed to look at water usage 10815 06:24:05,977 --> 06:24:06,227 which is permissive language 10816 06:24:08,277 --> 06:24:08,527 and that I also asked what was 10817 06:24:11,811 --> 06:24:12,061 considered within the abatement 10818 06:24:12,511 --> 06:24:12,761 and what was 10819 06:24:14,111 --> 06:24:14,361 the data centers specifically 10820 06:24:14,777 --> 06:24:15,027 abating 10821 06:24:17,711 --> 06:24:17,961 and in that conversation and in 10822 06:24:19,744 --> 06:24:19,994 that record he specifically 10823 06:24:20,377 --> 06:24:20,627 stated that the personal 10824 06:24:23,511 --> 06:24:23,761 property that was being 10825 06:24:25,911 --> 06:24:26,161 abated is the actual 10826 06:24:31,511 --> 06:24:31,761 I guess GPU or the data center 10827 06:24:34,011 --> 06:24:34,261 component itself that goes into 10828 06:24:37,577 --> 06:24:37,827 the facility so which opened 10829 06:24:38,344 --> 06:24:38,594 the door to the question of 10830 06:24:40,244 --> 06:24:40,494 we're abating the actual thing 10831 06:24:42,011 --> 06:24:42,261 that they're making profit on 10832 06:24:43,977 --> 06:24:44,227 right? so that was brought up in 10833 06:24:45,777 --> 06:24:46,027 that committee hearing that we 10834 06:24:48,011 --> 06:24:48,261 had had where we had goed come 10835 06:24:49,944 --> 06:24:50,194 in and do a discussion around 10836 06:24:50,611 --> 06:24:50,861 the abatement. 10837 06:24:51,744 --> 06:24:51,994 so 10838 06:24:55,511 --> 06:24:55,761 this particular item a one is 10839 06:24:56,211 --> 06:24:56,461 because when if you've been 10840 06:24:57,977 --> 06:24:58,227 paying attention to the news 10841 06:24:58,611 --> 06:24:58,861 number one these are 10842 06:25:02,444 --> 06:25:02,694 billionaire investments 10843 06:25:06,544 --> 06:25:06,794 and there is no actual need for 10844 06:25:09,544 --> 06:25:09,794 them to continue to have a 10845 06:25:12,044 --> 06:25:12,294 partial abatement of taxes for a 10846 06:25:12,711 --> 06:25:12,961 data center that they can afford 10847 06:25:15,644 --> 06:25:15,894 to pay for themselves number one 10848 06:25:19,511 --> 06:25:19,761 to the moratorium has the focus 10849 06:25:21,777 --> 06:25:22,027 to create a number one a pause 10850 06:25:23,744 --> 06:25:23,994 on the creation of expansion of 10851 06:25:26,211 --> 06:25:26,461 data centers we are in a 10852 06:25:28,211 --> 06:25:28,461 particular state in Nevada or 10853 06:25:29,777 --> 06:25:30,027 was put on the record that we 10854 06:25:32,011 --> 06:25:32,261 are currently66 in the state of 10855 06:25:35,511 --> 06:25:35,761 Nevada we have 22 that were in 10856 06:25:37,944 --> 06:25:38,194 potential contract or could 10857 06:25:39,944 --> 06:25:40,194 come online right? we've had 10858 06:25:41,777 --> 06:25:42,027 consistent conversations across 10859 06:25:44,011 --> 06:25:44,261 the state of Nevada from Boulder 10860 06:25:45,677 --> 06:25:45,927 City toye County 10861 06:25:49,511 --> 06:25:49,761 talking about actually in 10862 06:25:51,477 --> 06:25:51,727 henderson too talking about 10863 06:25:53,477 --> 06:25:53,727 moratoriums and talking about 10864 06:25:55,977 --> 06:25:56,227 putting a pause until we could 10865 06:25:58,177 --> 06:25:58,427 examine number one the impact 10866 06:25:59,977 --> 06:26:00,227 around natural resources right? 10867 06:26:03,511 --> 06:26:03,761 waterter although information 10868 06:26:04,244 --> 06:26:04,494 was put in the record 10869 06:26:09,477 --> 06:26:09,727 saying that certain data centers 10870 06:26:11,744 --> 06:26:11,994 have adapted different qualities 10871 06:26:14,011 --> 06:26:14,261 where they are using less 10872 06:26:15,644 --> 06:26:15,894 water that is not all right if 10873 06:26:16,344 --> 06:26:16,594 you 10874 06:26:18,011 --> 06:26:18,261 are familiar with the growth and 10875 06:26:19,744 --> 06:26:19,994 infrastructure hearing that 10876 06:26:21,977 --> 06:26:22,227 happened when Howard assemblyman 10877 06:26:23,977 --> 06:26:24,227 Howard Watts was the chair where 10878 06:26:25,977 --> 06:26:26,227 there was information put out 10879 06:26:27,677 --> 06:26:27,927 there around legacy data centers 10880 06:26:28,444 --> 06:26:28,694 and how much water usage they 10881 06:26:31,544 --> 06:26:31,794 are actually using it was 10882 06:26:32,111 --> 06:26:32,361 significant and substantial. 10883 06:26:35,711 --> 06:26:35,961 wa ter is not something we can 10884 06:26:36,344 --> 06:26:36,594 get back. 10885 06:26:38,011 --> 06:26:38,261 it is not something that we can 10886 06:26:40,211 --> 06:26:40,461 recreate. It is also popping up 10887 06:26:42,211 --> 06:26:42,461 as a constant conversation now 10888 06:26:43,977 --> 06:26:44,227 that the new allocation on the 10889 06:26:47,744 --> 06:26:47,994 Colorado river is71% less than 10890 06:26:49,511 --> 06:26:49,761 the allocation that we currently 10891 06:26:51,511 --> 06:26:51,761 had in the Colorado river. I 10892 06:26:53,777 --> 06:26:54,027 think it's time to start having 10893 06:26:55,511 --> 06:26:55,761 a conversation about how we're 10894 06:26:56,111 --> 06:26:56,361 number one going to protect 10895 06:26:59,511 --> 06:26:59,761 Nevada resources. there is also 10896 06:27:00,244 --> 06:27:00,494 data and information that's been 10897 06:27:01,744 --> 06:27:01,994 put out in various different 10898 06:27:04,011 --> 06:27:04,261 circumstances where even on the 10899 06:27:05,644 --> 06:27:05,894 electricity side it is not 10900 06:27:08,011 --> 06:27:08,261 just electricity but it is 10901 06:27:09,977 --> 06:27:10,227 electricity and water because 10902 06:27:11,744 --> 06:27:11,994 there is some water usage 10903 06:27:12,344 --> 06:27:12,594 associated with electricity 10904 06:27:16,011 --> 06:27:16,261 I think placing a moratorium 10905 06:27:17,677 --> 06:27:17,927 and trying to slow down 10906 06:27:19,844 --> 06:27:20,094 the impact 10907 06:27:24,044 --> 06:27:24,294 to nevada to nevada citizens is 10908 06:27:24,777 --> 06:27:25,027 not only appropriate but needed. 10909 06:27:28,211 --> 06:27:28,461 if you look across the 10910 06:27:32,211 --> 06:27:32,461 landscape of this country we 10911 06:27:34,211 --> 06:27:34,461 are not the only state that is 10912 06:27:37,511 --> 06:27:37,761 considering or has put on an 10913 06:27:38,444 --> 06:27:38,694 agenda a moratorium. it is not 10914 06:27:39,111 --> 06:27:39,361 new 10915 06:27:42,011 --> 06:27:42,261 it is a conversation where the 10916 06:27:45,744 --> 06:27:45,994 hyper scale data centers that 10917 06:27:47,777 --> 06:27:48,027 are being produced as size of 10918 06:27:48,444 --> 06:27:48,694 football fields are 10919 06:27:53,477 --> 06:27:53,727 something worth a discussion not 10920 06:27:54,477 --> 06:27:54,727 only for you know what has been 10921 06:27:55,977 --> 06:27:56,227 various remarks around what's 10922 06:28:01,944 --> 06:28:02,194 potential pollution also I 10923 06:28:03,977 --> 06:28:04,227 have at some point and it's not 10924 06:28:05,744 --> 06:28:05,994 the total point that I've 10925 06:28:07,744 --> 06:28:07,994 depended on but I have reviewed 10926 06:28:09,711 --> 06:28:09,961 the DrI study which was 10927 06:28:11,511 --> 06:28:11,761 challenged by the data centers 10928 06:28:13,511 --> 06:28:13,761 to say oh you know that wasn't 10929 06:28:14,211 --> 06:28:14,461 necessarily good research and I 10930 06:28:17,477 --> 06:28:17,727 and I rebuffed that comment 10931 06:28:18,211 --> 06:28:18,461 because I was just like if if 10932 06:28:19,644 --> 06:28:19,894 we're at the stage where we're 10933 06:28:20,344 --> 06:28:20,594 now trying to say that a 10934 06:28:23,511 --> 06:28:23,761 publicly funded research 10935 06:28:24,111 --> 06:28:24,361 institution in the state of 10936 06:28:25,977 --> 06:28:26,227 Nevada is putting out bad 10937 06:28:28,244 --> 06:28:28,494 research therefore I take issue 10938 06:28:31,511 --> 06:28:31,761 right with that multiple times 10939 06:28:33,744 --> 06:28:33,994 cuz I had several comments 10940 06:28:35,744 --> 06:28:35,994 after I had that meeting saying 10941 06:28:37,511 --> 06:28:37,761 that DrI study you know there 10942 06:28:39,511 --> 06:28:39,761 wasn't the best study they 10943 06:28:40,211 --> 06:28:40,461 didn't do a lot of the you know 10944 06:28:42,011 --> 06:28:42,261 appropriate information and I 10945 06:28:43,744 --> 06:28:43,994 was like so now we're downing 10946 06:28:44,444 --> 06:28:44,694 the scientists who actually 10947 06:28:45,011 --> 06:28:45,261 earned a degree 10948 06:28:48,011 --> 06:28:48,261 and have successfully been 10949 06:28:50,011 --> 06:28:50,261 the research institute in the in 10950 06:28:50,677 --> 06:28:50,927 the state 10951 06:28:52,544 --> 06:28:52,794 so I as a chair 10952 06:28:56,177 --> 06:28:56,427 and putting this forward because 10953 06:28:59,977 --> 06:29:00,227 Ii want a pause and I believe 10954 06:29:01,977 --> 06:29:02,227 it's inappropriate because of 10955 06:29:03,977 --> 06:29:04,227 the political sentiment that's 10956 06:29:05,844 --> 06:29:06,094 been going on and the research 10957 06:29:06,477 --> 06:29:06,727 that's been going on 10958 06:29:09,711 --> 06:29:09,961 I'm not adding any anymore to 10959 06:29:11,511 --> 06:29:11,761 that because I've been very 10960 06:29:12,111 --> 06:29:12,361 careful about putting certain 10961 06:29:14,011 --> 06:29:14,261 things on the record just 10962 06:29:17,477 --> 06:29:17,727 because I'm not trying to 10963 06:29:19,711 --> 06:29:19,961 give the data centers and 10964 06:29:20,277 --> 06:29:20,527 edge upp 10965 06:29:22,411 --> 06:29:22,661 on what I think is my 10966 06:29:23,977 --> 06:29:24,227 potential research and 10967 06:29:26,077 --> 06:29:26,327 commentary that might be used 10968 06:29:26,744 --> 06:29:26,994 for the legislative session 10969 06:29:29,911 --> 06:29:30,161 I have actually been asked 10970 06:29:34,011 --> 06:29:34,261 what have I read and I was 10971 06:29:35,977 --> 06:29:36,227 just like why should I share 10972 06:29:38,244 --> 06:29:38,494 every single research document 10973 06:29:40,111 --> 06:29:40,361 that I've read when literally 10974 06:29:40,777 --> 06:29:41,027 you can google it 10975 06:29:44,244 --> 06:29:44,494 so every piece of information 10976 06:29:45,977 --> 06:29:46,227 that's out there on data centers 10977 06:29:48,244 --> 06:29:48,494 is publicly available 10978 06:29:51,511 --> 06:29:51,761 negative positive or otherwise. 10979 06:29:53,511 --> 06:29:53,761 I know people feel that you know 10980 06:29:55,511 --> 06:29:55,761 AI has been a positive but it's 10981 06:29:58,211 --> 06:29:58,461 also has some negative and the 10982 06:30:00,211 --> 06:30:00,461 data centers that are producing 10983 06:30:02,244 --> 06:30:02,494 this technology I think we need 10984 06:30:04,011 --> 06:30:04,261 to put a pause and we need to 10985 06:30:06,444 --> 06:30:06,694 have a conversation around what 10986 06:30:07,111 --> 06:30:07,361 is best for Nevada. 10987 06:30:10,344 --> 06:30:10,594 are our natural resources being 10988 06:30:10,977 --> 06:30:11,227 impacted 10989 06:30:13,977 --> 06:30:14,227 I think the issue that's 10990 06:30:16,444 --> 06:30:16,694 happened at rick is a is a 10991 06:30:18,211 --> 06:30:18,461 big mental note I think the 10992 06:30:19,744 --> 06:30:19,994 issue that's happened at Boulder 10993 06:30:22,211 --> 06:30:22,461 City where data centers put 10994 06:30:23,977 --> 06:30:24,227 on federal land completely 10995 06:30:25,511 --> 06:30:25,761 ignoring what the Boulder 10996 06:30:26,077 --> 06:30:26,327 cityity chose or what they 10997 06:30:26,677 --> 06:30:26,927 wanted to do 10998 06:30:29,777 --> 06:30:30,027 it's also something that we need 10999 06:30:31,544 --> 06:30:31,794 to be examining because as a 11000 06:30:32,444 --> 06:30:32,694 state we need to be centered 11001 06:30:33,011 --> 06:30:33,261 around 11002 06:30:38,344 --> 06:30:38,594 what is best and good for the 11003 06:30:39,044 --> 06:30:39,294 survival 11004 06:30:40,244 --> 06:30:40,494 of our people 11005 06:30:44,177 --> 06:30:44,427 and on my final statement will 11006 06:30:46,211 --> 06:30:46,461 be that the statement that I've 11007 06:30:49,977 --> 06:30:50,227 made publicly is to allow one 11008 06:30:53,711 --> 06:30:53,961 business client in this state to 11009 06:30:55,711 --> 06:30:55,961 use all of the resources or 11010 06:30:59,477 --> 06:30:59,727 maximize the use of natural 11011 06:31:00,444 --> 06:31:00,694 resources such as water and to 11012 06:31:03,777 --> 06:31:04,027 leave nothing in spa in in the 11013 06:31:05,511 --> 06:31:05,761 space for another business 11014 06:31:06,211 --> 06:31:06,461 client it's actually not 11015 06:31:07,977 --> 06:31:08,227 economic development it actually 11016 06:31:09,777 --> 06:31:10,027 is the reverse of economic 11017 06:31:11,811 --> 06:31:12,061 development because I think the 11018 06:31:12,477 --> 06:31:12,727 question that we should be 11019 06:31:13,044 --> 06:31:13,294 asking 11020 06:31:14,211 --> 06:31:14,461 ourselves is if the next client 11021 06:31:17,477 --> 06:31:17,727 comes and they need water right 11022 06:31:19,511 --> 06:31:19,761 and let's say that there that 11023 06:31:21,977 --> 06:31:22,227 you know we're wrong on this 11024 06:31:24,211 --> 06:31:24,461 water allocation on what they 11025 06:31:25,977 --> 06:31:26,227 claim their water allocation is 11026 06:31:28,177 --> 06:31:28,427 and it actually is in excess of 11027 06:31:29,877 --> 06:31:30,127 what we're able to identify. 11028 06:31:33,711 --> 06:31:33,961 then what does that tell us that 11029 06:31:35,477 --> 06:31:35,727 the next business client that 11030 06:31:36,611 --> 06:31:36,861 comes to the state of Nevada 11031 06:31:37,277 --> 06:31:37,527 should have available to them 11032 06:31:40,211 --> 06:31:40,461 should their actions to come in 11033 06:31:42,211 --> 06:31:42,461 and diversify the economic 11034 06:31:44,211 --> 06:31:44,461 status of Nevada be different 11035 06:31:45,711 --> 06:31:45,961 because now all of a sudden 11036 06:31:46,344 --> 06:31:46,594 we're saying there is no water 11037 06:31:50,011 --> 06:31:50,261 there's no more water in the 11038 06:31:52,011 --> 06:31:52,261 Colorado river for us to get and 11039 06:31:53,977 --> 06:31:54,227 therefore changing thy dynamic 11040 06:31:56,311 --> 06:31:56,561 and I think for myself these are 11041 06:31:59,511 --> 06:31:59,761 my opinions that we are 11042 06:32:00,277 --> 06:32:00,527 moving in a direction that we 11043 06:32:03,511 --> 06:32:03,761 need to put a pause and think 11044 06:32:05,511 --> 06:32:05,761 clearly about the generation 11045 06:32:06,511 --> 06:32:06,761 that comes behind us the 11046 06:32:08,277 --> 06:32:08,527 generation that will be the eth 11047 06:32:10,244 --> 06:32:10,494 generation that comes behind us 11048 06:32:12,044 --> 06:32:12,294 and making sure that we have 11049 06:32:13,777 --> 06:32:14,027 enough resources to sustain 11050 06:32:16,111 --> 06:32:16,361 Nevada and Nevadans and so that 11051 06:32:16,744 --> 06:32:16,994 is my 11052 06:32:17,644 --> 06:32:17,894 opinion and those are my 11053 06:32:18,211 --> 06:32:18,461 comments 11054 06:32:20,744 --> 06:32:20,994 I don't know if that helps you 11055 06:32:25,511 --> 06:32:25,761 thank you and that was a very 11056 06:32:26,277 --> 06:32:26,527 robust answer and I appreciate 11057 06:32:28,044 --> 06:32:28,294 that very much and and your 11058 06:32:30,277 --> 06:32:30,527 passion for the issues if I 11059 06:32:33,511 --> 06:32:33,761 may just a quick followup 11060 06:32:35,744 --> 06:32:35,994 regarding specifically the goed 11061 06:32:37,511 --> 06:32:37,761 piece I think what I heard you 11062 06:32:38,277 --> 06:32:38,527 say is that it's permissive 11063 06:32:40,011 --> 06:32:40,261 language is essentially what was 11064 06:32:41,744 --> 06:32:41,994 passed and that your concern is 11065 06:32:44,244 --> 06:32:44,494 is that goed can but is not 11066 06:32:46,211 --> 06:32:46,461 necessarily mandating those 11067 06:32:48,277 --> 06:32:48,527 reductions in abatements based 11068 06:32:50,011 --> 06:32:50,261 on the issues that we just 11069 06:32:52,111 --> 06:32:52,361 discussed yes so we had a full 11070 06:32:52,777 --> 06:32:53,027 conversation 11071 06:32:54,011 --> 06:32:54,261 or 11072 06:32:57,511 --> 06:32:57,761 I won't say it was pretty full 11073 06:32:58,411 --> 06:32:58,661 with a director Burns on 11074 06:33:04,244 --> 06:33:04,494 whether or not we were actively 11075 06:33:06,077 --> 06:33:06,327 using that provision in law. 11076 06:33:09,844 --> 06:33:10,094 to make sure that 11077 06:33:12,177 --> 06:33:12,427 the 11078 06:33:17,777 --> 06:33:18,027 provision on water impact was 11079 06:33:19,744 --> 06:33:19,994 being mitigated by goed. I know 11080 06:33:21,477 --> 06:33:21,727 one of my direct questions and 11081 06:33:22,211 --> 06:33:22,461 it I don't know if our minutes 11082 06:33:24,244 --> 06:33:24,494 are available was if that was 11083 06:33:26,277 --> 06:33:26,527 the case then how was it that 11084 06:33:28,011 --> 06:33:28,261 legacy centers were 11085 06:33:29,777 --> 06:33:30,027 grandfathered in to continue to 11086 06:33:31,744 --> 06:33:31,994 use the level of water that they 11087 06:33:33,777 --> 06:33:34,027 were using because if that was 11088 06:33:35,977 --> 06:33:36,227 the case the statute should have 11089 06:33:36,711 --> 06:33:36,961 prevented the grandfathering in 11090 06:33:40,277 --> 06:33:40,527 of that water usage and then 11091 06:33:42,244 --> 06:33:42,494 there was a pivot in the 11092 06:33:44,011 --> 06:33:44,261 conversation where director 11093 06:33:45,977 --> 06:33:46,227 Bynes said you should ask the 11094 06:33:47,744 --> 06:33:47,994 southern Nevada water Authority 11095 06:33:49,644 --> 06:33:49,894 how they were grandfathered in 11096 06:33:50,311 --> 06:33:50,561 and then the conversation end 11097 06:33:53,644 --> 06:33:53,894 Thank you I appreciate that nu 11098 06:33:59,644 --> 06:33:59,894 Butembliment packard 11099 06:34:00,211 --> 06:34:00,461 hatchet 11100 06:34:04,444 --> 06:34:04,694 thank you madam chairir yessy 11101 06:34:05,977 --> 06:34:06,227 and patchett and I'm way newer 11102 06:34:08,311 --> 06:34:08,561 than assembly member cole so 11103 06:34:08,877 --> 06:34:09,127 bear with me 11104 06:34:13,711 --> 06:34:13,961 given that you know my 11105 06:34:15,711 --> 06:34:15,961 question is really surrounded by 11106 06:34:16,444 --> 06:34:16,694 kind of the topic of the day 11107 06:34:18,244 --> 06:34:18,494 earlier on in the day regarding 11108 06:34:19,811 --> 06:34:20,061 the kind of federalism the 11109 06:34:22,011 --> 06:34:22,261 concept of local control and so 11110 06:34:24,011 --> 06:34:24,261 you're listed off at several 11111 06:34:25,744 --> 06:34:25,994 issues that you have with data 11112 06:34:27,477 --> 06:34:27,727 centers and you know I'm not 11113 06:34:28,111 --> 06:34:28,361 here to debate whether or not 11114 06:34:29,977 --> 06:34:30,227 those are valid or or otherwise 11115 06:34:30,644 --> 06:34:30,894 however 11116 06:34:33,977 --> 06:34:34,227 currently the the undernevada 11117 06:34:36,344 --> 06:34:36,594 law there's broad authority 11118 06:34:39,644 --> 06:34:39,894 given to to cities and counties 11119 06:34:40,311 --> 06:34:40,561 to 11120 06:34:42,344 --> 06:34:42,594 regulate and and 11121 06:34:47,777 --> 06:34:48,027 really enforce land use and 11122 06:34:48,344 --> 06:34:48,594 development within their 11123 06:34:48,844 --> 06:34:49,094 jurisdictions 11124 06:34:53,511 --> 06:34:53,761 that being the case what problem 11125 06:34:54,444 --> 06:34:54,694 outside of those listed and it 11126 06:34:55,744 --> 06:34:55,994 can be handled by a local 11127 06:34:57,777 --> 06:34:58,027 jurisdiction would be solved by 11128 06:35:00,177 --> 06:35:00,427 having a statewide moratorium 11129 06:35:00,844 --> 06:35:01,094 imposed 11130 06:35:06,011 --> 06:35:06,261 so let me try to figure out the 11131 06:35:07,511 --> 06:35:07,761 first part. so the first part 11132 06:35:09,977 --> 06:35:10,227 you're saying that the cities 11133 06:35:12,177 --> 06:35:12,427 or counties have direct control 11134 06:35:14,177 --> 06:35:14,427 over their land usage so 11135 06:35:16,177 --> 06:35:16,427 therefore are you saying the 11136 06:35:16,777 --> 06:35:17,027 state has no role to dictate? 11137 06:35:19,944 --> 06:35:20,194 no what'm what I'm saying is 11138 06:35:21,744 --> 06:35:21,994 under state law currently local 11139 06:35:23,511 --> 06:35:23,761 jurisdictions or local 11140 06:35:25,777 --> 06:35:26,027 governments do have broad 11141 06:35:27,711 --> 06:35:27,961 authority to regulate the land 11142 06:35:28,377 --> 06:35:28,627 use and development within their 11143 06:35:29,044 --> 06:35:29,294 jurisdictions 11144 06:35:32,011 --> 06:35:32,261 we have a case currently where a 11145 06:35:34,244 --> 06:35:34,494 moratorium been imposed by a 11146 06:35:36,077 --> 06:35:36,327 municipality that being the city 11147 06:35:36,711 --> 06:35:36,961 of henderson 11148 06:35:38,611 --> 06:35:38,861 to address some of the issues 11149 06:35:39,277 --> 06:35:39,527 that you've raised 11150 06:35:43,944 --> 06:35:44,194 right so outside of the 11151 06:35:45,477 --> 06:35:45,727 issues that you've raised what 11152 06:35:47,944 --> 06:35:48,194 what problem would a statewide 11153 06:35:50,211 --> 06:35:50,461 mor moratorium resolve versus 11154 06:35:51,977 --> 06:35:52,227 what a local jurisdiction can 11155 06:35:53,677 --> 06:35:53,927 can basically handle on their 11156 06:35:54,344 --> 06:35:54,594 own 11157 06:35:56,077 --> 06:35:56,327 so thank you for the question so 11158 06:35:59,977 --> 06:36:00,227 so first I thought Henderson put 11159 06:36:01,777 --> 06:36:02,027 it on the agenda but it didn't 11160 06:36:03,744 --> 06:36:03,994 pass so maybe I'm ri wrong about 11161 06:36:05,477 --> 06:36:05,727 that but I thought they put it 11162 06:36:06,211 --> 06:36:06,461 up and then it they didn't move 11163 06:36:07,944 --> 06:36:08,194 forward and they decided to do 11164 06:36:10,211 --> 06:36:10,461 some local reg and have a 11165 06:36:10,777 --> 06:36:11,027 conversationny county 11166 06:36:12,544 --> 06:36:12,794 is the only one that actually 11167 06:36:13,144 --> 06:36:13,394 has done the moratorium 11168 06:36:17,477 --> 06:36:17,727 so what I think would is 11169 06:36:19,744 --> 06:36:19,994 appropriate right is because 11170 06:36:21,744 --> 06:36:21,994 number one a local governments 11171 06:36:23,544 --> 06:36:23,794 and cities are still creatures 11172 06:36:25,511 --> 06:36:25,761 of the state. I don't believe we 11173 06:36:27,977 --> 06:36:28,227 relinquished control over 11174 06:36:29,977 --> 06:36:30,227 whether or not what a city and a 11175 06:36:31,977 --> 06:36:32,227 county and what the state can 11176 06:36:34,411 --> 06:36:34,661 tell a city or county to do so 11177 06:36:35,111 --> 06:36:35,361 in this case right 11178 06:36:38,244 --> 06:36:38,494 it is the state acting on behalf 11179 06:36:40,244 --> 06:36:40,494 because of the spotty you know 11180 06:36:43,477 --> 06:36:43,727 movement between you know the 11181 06:36:45,511 --> 06:36:45,761 henderson council that took 11182 06:36:47,744 --> 06:36:47,994 it up Nny County I believe took 11183 06:36:49,744 --> 06:36:49,994 it up twice ending with a 11184 06:36:51,477 --> 06:36:51,727 moratorium boulder cityity 11185 06:36:53,477 --> 06:36:53,727 wanting to do something that the 11186 06:36:56,011 --> 06:36:56,261 state is is stepping in because 11187 06:36:57,511 --> 06:36:57,761 under you know just believing 11188 06:36:59,777 --> 06:37:00,027 for public policy purposes and 11189 06:37:03,511 --> 06:37:03,761 using our power to number one 11190 06:37:04,344 --> 06:37:04,594 police data centers too 11191 06:37:07,977 --> 06:37:08,227 go and try to make sure that 11192 06:37:10,244 --> 06:37:10,494 there are legitimate concerns 11193 06:37:14,244 --> 06:37:14,494 and conflicts that are being 11194 06:37:15,744 --> 06:37:15,994 mitigated at the state level in 11195 06:37:18,011 --> 06:37:18,261 one shot right? so when the 11196 06:37:19,744 --> 06:37:19,994 state steps in it kind of sets 11197 06:37:21,711 --> 06:37:21,961 the standard of what will be 11198 06:37:22,577 --> 06:37:22,827 right rather than what 11199 06:37:26,177 --> 06:37:26,427 are have been the local fights 11200 06:37:29,944 --> 06:37:30,194 or one offs I think this is 11201 06:37:32,211 --> 06:37:32,461 an issue that has been lifted up 11202 06:37:33,977 --> 06:37:34,227 enough in terms of public 11203 06:37:36,211 --> 06:37:36,461 opinion in terms of issues 11204 06:37:39,477 --> 06:37:39,727 related to water resources in 11205 06:37:40,211 --> 06:37:40,461 terms of issues related to the 11206 06:37:42,544 --> 06:37:42,794 se1% reduction on the Colorado 11207 06:37:43,211 --> 06:37:43,461 River 11208 06:37:46,177 --> 06:37:46,427 that the state should take a 11209 06:37:48,444 --> 06:37:48,694 good look there's also been very 11210 06:37:49,711 --> 06:37:49,961 distinct conversations around 11211 06:37:52,144 --> 06:37:52,394 when they've talked about the 11212 06:37:55,777 --> 06:37:56,027 water usage and the NDA's that 11213 06:37:58,211 --> 06:37:58,461 are now following the water 11214 06:38:01,811 --> 06:38:02,061 usage that is put within the 11215 06:38:05,511 --> 06:38:05,761 I guess the I don't know if it's 11216 06:38:06,244 --> 06:38:06,494 the state and local contracts 11217 06:38:08,211 --> 06:38:08,461 which is just not here but other 11218 06:38:11,477 --> 06:38:11,727 places where a nondisclosure is 11219 06:38:12,444 --> 06:38:12,694 being put up for the allocation 11220 06:38:13,977 --> 06:38:14,227 so what's been a common theme 11221 06:38:16,177 --> 06:38:16,427 nationally has been that they'll 11222 06:38:19,711 --> 06:38:19,961 go in put in their agenda item 11223 06:38:20,311 --> 06:38:20,561 they'll say what their 11224 06:38:22,211 --> 06:38:22,461 allocation they think their 11225 06:38:23,977 --> 06:38:24,227 allocation is going to be or 11226 06:38:24,544 --> 06:38:24,794 what they believe that their 11227 06:38:27,511 --> 06:38:27,761 usage is going to be and then 11228 06:38:29,511 --> 06:38:29,761 when when there's an NDA 11229 06:38:31,844 --> 06:38:32,094 associated with the actual usage 11230 06:38:32,511 --> 06:38:32,761 at the end 11231 06:38:35,511 --> 06:38:35,761 and then there is a foyer 11232 06:38:36,177 --> 06:38:36,427 request that is then denied 11233 06:38:36,744 --> 06:38:36,994 right 11234 06:38:40,144 --> 06:38:40,394 and so so you could really 11235 06:38:42,177 --> 06:38:42,427 ascertain did you say you're 11236 06:38:45,477 --> 06:38:45,727 gonna use325,000 gallons of 11237 06:38:47,511 --> 06:38:47,761 water and then was the end 11238 06:38:49,744 --> 06:38:49,994 result450,000 gallons of water. 11239 06:38:51,711 --> 06:38:51,961 there's been a constant 11240 06:38:53,977 --> 06:38:54,227 discussion nationally on whether 11241 06:38:55,944 --> 06:38:56,194 or not you know different states 11242 06:38:56,644 --> 06:38:56,894 could get that information 11243 06:38:58,211 --> 06:38:58,461 achieve that information we 11244 06:38:59,977 --> 06:39:00,227 don't want that to happen in 11245 06:39:03,511 --> 06:39:03,761 Nevada. we also don't want a 11246 06:39:04,211 --> 06:39:04,461 situation where we don't have 11247 06:39:06,411 --> 06:39:06,661 any kind of say or control if 11248 06:39:07,077 --> 06:39:07,327 you've looked 11249 06:39:11,977 --> 06:39:12,227 inor I believe it's inor where 11250 06:39:14,411 --> 06:39:14,661 they have they've gotten 11251 06:39:19,477 --> 06:39:19,727 water rights then they sued over 11252 06:39:22,177 --> 06:39:22,427 when the when the city 11253 06:39:23,944 --> 06:39:24,194 basically was saying you've used 11254 06:39:25,744 --> 06:39:25,994 too much right and then they're 11255 06:39:27,511 --> 06:39:27,761 suing to continue to use it. 11256 06:39:29,944 --> 06:39:30,194 we're not in a position to be 11257 06:39:32,011 --> 06:39:32,261 sued and then for somebody to 11258 06:39:33,744 --> 06:39:33,994 say I would like to get more of 11259 06:39:34,377 --> 06:39:34,627 the water allocation that we do 11260 06:39:35,111 --> 06:39:35,361 not have. 11261 06:39:38,177 --> 06:39:38,427 and so at some point I really 11262 06:39:38,844 --> 06:39:39,094 feel that 11263 06:39:41,744 --> 06:39:41,994 in fairness and balance we 11264 06:39:43,477 --> 06:39:43,727 should be having a conversation 11265 06:39:45,477 --> 06:39:45,727 about what are the needs of the 11266 06:39:47,744 --> 06:39:47,994 3 million Nevadans in the state 11267 06:39:50,011 --> 06:39:50,261 in terms of water and the impact 11268 06:39:51,477 --> 06:39:51,727 of the data centers and what 11269 06:39:53,744 --> 06:39:53,994 they are having on this 11270 06:39:55,677 --> 06:39:55,927 particular issue of the water 11271 06:39:56,377 --> 06:39:56,627 allocation. 11272 06:39:58,211 --> 06:39:58,461 the second another point I'll 11273 06:39:59,744 --> 06:39:59,994 make is that when I was sitting 11274 06:40:00,477 --> 06:40:00,727 with the southernnevada water 11275 06:40:02,477 --> 06:40:02,727 authoruthority I said well let's 11276 06:40:03,144 --> 06:40:03,394 say 11277 06:40:07,511 --> 06:40:07,761 are the grandfather legacy 11278 06:40:08,211 --> 06:40:08,461 centers planning on reducing 11279 06:40:09,977 --> 06:40:10,227 their allocation of water which 11280 06:40:11,711 --> 06:40:11,961 is substantial if you go back 11281 06:40:12,311 --> 06:40:12,561 and look at the growth and 11282 06:40:13,977 --> 06:40:14,227 infrastructure record and what 11283 06:40:15,711 --> 06:40:15,961 was said to me was like well 11284 06:40:16,377 --> 06:40:16,627 yeah they are planning on 11285 06:40:21,477 --> 06:40:21,727 changing their water usage 11286 06:40:22,044 --> 06:40:22,294 but they're going to do it 11287 06:40:22,577 --> 06:40:22,827 over10 years. 11288 06:40:22,844 --> 06:40:23,094 well 11289 06:40:27,477 --> 06:40:27,727 10 years from now we could be in 11290 06:40:28,311 --> 06:40:28,561 a totally different water 11291 06:40:28,911 --> 06:40:29,161 situation 11292 06:40:32,244 --> 06:40:32,494 so why did first of all that 11293 06:40:34,211 --> 06:40:34,461 gave an alarm for me that 11294 06:40:36,011 --> 06:40:36,261 someone would get10 years to 11295 06:40:38,011 --> 06:40:38,261 continue to use that amount of 11296 06:40:41,944 --> 06:40:42,194 water with no change knowing 11297 06:40:44,211 --> 06:40:44,461 that we're not only in a drought 11298 06:40:47,477 --> 06:40:47,727 but we're actually experiencing 11299 06:40:49,777 --> 06:40:50,027 not enough water that is 11300 06:40:51,744 --> 06:40:51,994 actually sustainable to even 11301 06:40:53,777 --> 06:40:54,027 potentially on the third intake 11302 06:40:55,977 --> 06:40:56,227 to keep the dam moving so I'm 11303 06:40:57,777 --> 06:40:58,027 moving on this because I believe 11304 06:40:58,477 --> 06:40:58,727 it's in the best public policy 11305 06:41:02,211 --> 06:41:02,461 interests of3 million Nevadans 11306 06:41:03,977 --> 06:41:04,227 to have a conversation about 11307 06:41:06,011 --> 06:41:06,261 water to have a conversation 11308 06:41:08,244 --> 06:41:08,494 about electricity to have a 11309 06:41:09,711 --> 06:41:09,961 conversation about 11310 06:41:11,977 --> 06:41:12,227 future generations and what they 11311 06:41:14,011 --> 06:41:14,261 should actually have the benefit 11312 06:41:16,177 --> 06:41:16,427 and the use of which is water 11313 06:41:18,944 --> 06:41:19,194 coming through their pipes in 11314 06:41:19,511 --> 06:41:19,761 nevada. 11315 06:41:24,477 --> 06:41:24,727 Thank you madam Chair I 11316 06:41:26,277 --> 06:41:26,527 appreciate the the response and 11317 06:41:27,811 --> 06:41:28,061 just clarification for my 11318 06:41:28,377 --> 06:41:28,627 understanding and 11319 06:41:31,744 --> 06:41:31,994 I did misspeak and apologize for 11320 06:41:32,477 --> 06:41:32,727 that thanks for correcting the 11321 06:41:33,511 --> 06:41:33,761 record that it wasn't the city 11322 06:41:34,277 --> 06:41:34,527 of henderson. I was aware there 11323 06:41:37,511 --> 06:41:37,761 was a municipality but obviously 11324 06:41:38,277 --> 06:41:38,527 misspoken. I apologize for 11325 06:41:40,244 --> 06:41:40,494 that.gain thank you for the 11326 06:41:41,711 --> 06:41:41,961 response and no further 11327 06:41:42,244 --> 06:41:42,494 questions thank you 11328 06:41:45,911 --> 06:41:46,161 does anybody else have any 11329 06:41:46,477 --> 06:41:46,727 comments? 11330 06:41:51,511 --> 06:41:51,761 OK so I know this is this is a 11331 06:41:52,244 --> 06:41:52,494 contentious item. I mean 11332 06:41:54,244 --> 06:41:54,494 everybody you know we're all 11333 06:41:55,977 --> 06:41:56,227 freely elected members you vote 11334 06:41:56,644 --> 06:41:56,894 your conscience do what you got 11335 06:41:57,344 --> 06:41:57,594 to do. 11336 06:41:59,977 --> 06:42:00,227 right so I will entertain a 11337 06:42:01,744 --> 06:42:01,994 motion for the bill to be 11338 06:42:04,644 --> 06:42:04,894 drafted which is a one on data 11339 06:42:05,344 --> 06:42:05,594 centers. 11340 06:42:05,944 --> 06:42:06,194 do you have a 11341 06:42:12,594 --> 06:42:12,844 are you my so so but first from 11342 06:42:14,244 --> 06:42:14,494 senator Deatete of a second from 11343 06:42:16,277 --> 06:42:16,527 assembly men to silva is there 11344 06:42:17,844 --> 06:42:18,094 any discussion on the motion? 11345 06:42:21,711 --> 06:42:21,961 so I have a comment from senator 11346 06:42:23,777 --> 06:42:24,027 Deatete are there other comments 11347 06:42:24,444 --> 06:42:24,694 yes from assembly member Cole 11348 06:42:29,477 --> 06:42:29,727 so senator Deatio thank you 11349 06:42:31,711 --> 06:42:31,961 madam thank you madam chair just 11350 06:42:32,444 --> 06:42:32,694 wanted to make a few comments on 11351 06:42:33,711 --> 06:42:33,961 the record of course before this 11352 06:42:34,377 --> 06:42:34,627 vote 11353 06:42:37,511 --> 06:42:37,761 obviously I think throughout 11354 06:42:39,511 --> 06:42:39,761 this interim I think our 11355 06:42:40,177 --> 06:42:40,427 constituents have asked us 11356 06:42:41,977 --> 06:42:42,227 repeatedly to tackle this issue 11357 06:42:43,944 --> 06:42:44,194 and so I commend your leadership 11358 06:42:45,677 --> 06:42:45,927 in at least trying to solve and 11359 06:42:46,411 --> 06:42:46,661 address it 11360 06:42:49,744 --> 06:42:49,994 I think in the conversations 11361 06:42:51,711 --> 06:42:51,961 that we've had both offline 11362 06:42:54,211 --> 06:42:54,461 and and in this committee I 11363 06:42:56,011 --> 06:42:56,261 mean it's clear that there's 11364 06:42:56,577 --> 06:42:56,827 this infrastructure is growing 11365 06:42:57,744 --> 06:42:57,994 this is becoming a national 11366 06:43:00,011 --> 06:43:00,261 trend within our country the 11367 06:43:02,011 --> 06:43:02,261 need for compu the need for 11368 06:43:04,011 --> 06:43:04,261 compute and the race for 11369 06:43:06,011 --> 06:43:06,261 artificial intelligence is 11370 06:43:08,244 --> 06:43:08,494 becoming more prevalent. how I 11371 06:43:10,011 --> 06:43:10,261 you know at the same time I 11372 06:43:11,744 --> 06:43:11,994 for one am very worried about 11373 06:43:14,044 --> 06:43:14,294 the about foreign influence 11374 06:43:15,844 --> 06:43:16,094 and the conversion and expansion 11375 06:43:16,511 --> 06:43:16,761 of foreign owned assets 11376 06:43:18,244 --> 06:43:18,494 that utilize our natural 11377 06:43:20,244 --> 06:43:20,494 resources there have been cases 11378 06:43:23,477 --> 06:43:23,727 here in Nevada that have used 11379 06:43:25,744 --> 06:43:25,994 or have converted crypto 11380 06:43:26,477 --> 06:43:26,727 mining facilities now to become 11381 06:43:29,744 --> 06:43:29,994 data centers and so I think 11382 06:43:31,511 --> 06:43:31,761 that there are obviously cases 11383 06:43:33,511 --> 06:43:33,761 in companies including Switch 11384 06:43:34,111 --> 06:43:34,361 andensorwave that are leading 11385 06:43:37,477 --> 06:43:37,727 the way in how we can really 11386 06:43:38,477 --> 06:43:38,727 make this a really a better 11387 06:43:41,511 --> 06:43:41,761 efficient ecosystem and so my 11388 06:43:42,111 --> 06:43:42,361 only comment is that for anyone 11389 06:43:44,011 --> 06:43:44,261 that's watching all I would 11390 06:43:45,844 --> 06:43:46,094 ask is that within the next 11391 06:43:46,411 --> 06:43:46,661 couple of months 11392 06:43:47,811 --> 06:43:48,061 for the industry partners 11393 06:43:50,211 --> 06:43:50,461 to work alongside the 11394 06:43:51,977 --> 06:43:52,227 legislators both on this 11395 06:43:54,211 --> 06:43:54,461 committee and and beyond just 11396 06:43:55,744 --> 06:43:55,994 because I think there could 11397 06:43:57,511 --> 06:43:57,761 be a balance to protect 11398 06:43:59,744 --> 06:43:59,994 consumers and both from a 11399 06:44:01,744 --> 06:44:01,994 natural resources side both from 11400 06:44:03,777 --> 06:44:04,027 the worker protections and 11401 06:44:04,277 --> 06:44:04,527 making sure that right pairs 11402 06:44:05,944 --> 06:44:06,194 don't have to subsidize 11403 06:44:07,511 --> 06:44:07,761 especially given the 11404 06:44:09,744 --> 06:44:09,994 increasing funds that are in in 11405 06:44:12,011 --> 06:44:12,261 this moment so nonetheless I 11406 06:44:13,477 --> 06:44:13,727 will be supporting today's 11407 06:44:14,211 --> 06:44:14,461 measure and again thank you 11408 06:44:16,244 --> 06:44:16,494 for your leadership given the 11409 06:44:17,711 --> 06:44:17,961 national conversation that's 11410 06:44:18,377 --> 06:44:18,627 happening around this 11411 06:44:18,811 --> 06:44:19,061 conversation. you 11412 06:44:19,811 --> 06:44:20,061 for that assembly memberm call 11413 06:44:25,477 --> 06:44:25,727 thank you madam chairir. so I 11414 06:44:27,477 --> 06:44:27,727 am unfortunately not able to 11415 06:44:28,211 --> 06:44:28,461 support a moratorium on data 11416 06:44:30,011 --> 06:44:30,261 center development or repealing 11417 06:44:34,177 --> 06:44:34,427 NrS360.754 outright nevada's to 11418 06:44:35,977 --> 06:44:36,227 me is positioned right now to 11419 06:44:37,744 --> 06:44:37,994 win the lottery in one of the 11420 06:44:38,544 --> 06:44:38,794 largest drivers of economic 11421 06:44:39,111 --> 06:44:39,361 growth in the world 11422 06:44:41,711 --> 06:44:41,961 and instead support a well 11423 06:44:43,711 --> 06:44:43,961 crafted legislation piece of 11424 06:44:44,311 --> 06:44:44,561 legislation directing local 11425 06:44:45,977 --> 06:44:46,227 jurisdictions to negotiate 11426 06:44:47,511 --> 06:44:47,761 development agreements and 11427 06:44:48,244 --> 06:44:48,494 continuing the existing 11428 06:44:51,511 --> 06:44:51,761 subsidies as long as we hold 11429 06:44:52,277 --> 06:44:52,527 them to the highest standards on 11430 06:44:53,777 --> 06:44:54,027 water conservation and grid 11431 06:44:55,744 --> 06:44:55,994 buildout so these costs never 11432 06:44:57,977 --> 06:44:58,227 land on repairs the governor's 11433 06:44:59,744 --> 06:44:59,994 office has landed on that same 11434 06:45:01,744 --> 06:45:01,994 side having signed the ratepayer 11435 06:45:03,511 --> 06:45:03,761 protection pledge if a company 11436 06:45:04,244 --> 06:45:04,494 wants to build here it brings 11437 06:45:05,977 --> 06:45:06,227 its own power and water 11438 06:45:08,211 --> 06:45:08,461 solutions the pucCN's ruleleine 11439 06:45:08,877 --> 06:45:09,127 already requires large loads to 11440 06:45:09,577 --> 06:45:09,827 fund their own 11441 06:45:11,977 --> 06:45:12,227 infrastructure and this 11442 06:45:14,011 --> 06:45:14,261 technology keeps improving and 11443 06:45:15,477 --> 06:45:15,727 then at least in the southern 11444 06:45:16,444 --> 06:45:16,694 Nevada area we have the S andWA 11445 06:45:17,977 --> 06:45:18,227 moratorium on evaporative 11446 06:45:20,077 --> 06:45:20,327 cooling which solves in large 11447 06:45:20,744 --> 06:45:20,994 part the water issue 11448 06:45:23,511 --> 06:45:23,761 and it's not just the 11449 06:45:24,244 --> 06:45:24,494 governor's office it's also the 11450 06:45:26,211 --> 06:45:26,461 Nevada state AfL CIO that 11451 06:45:27,944 --> 06:45:28,194 unanimously just passed a 11452 06:45:29,744 --> 06:45:29,994 resolution last week on data 11453 06:45:31,511 --> 06:45:31,761 centers and I'll be honest as a 11454 06:45:32,211 --> 06:45:32,461 Republican it isn't every day 11455 06:45:33,977 --> 06:45:34,227 that I get to stand next to AFL 11456 06:45:36,277 --> 06:45:36,527 CIO on an issue but the 11457 06:45:37,977 --> 06:45:38,227 resolution asks for the same 11458 06:45:39,744 --> 06:45:39,994 things no cost shifting under 11459 06:45:41,744 --> 06:45:41,994 ratepayers community benefit 11460 06:45:42,444 --> 06:45:42,694 agreements, water efficient 11461 06:45:43,977 --> 06:45:44,227 technology suited to our desert 11462 06:45:46,011 --> 06:45:46,261 climate so when laborbour in the 11463 06:45:47,511 --> 06:45:47,761 governor's office agree on the 11464 06:45:49,511 --> 06:45:49,761 guardrails that tells me we're 11465 06:45:50,211 --> 06:45:50,461 closer to the right answer than 11466 06:45:50,877 --> 06:45:51,127 a moratorium allows. 11467 06:45:53,744 --> 06:45:53,994 Ne that already has strong 11468 06:45:55,944 --> 06:45:56,194 statutory guard guardrails wage 11469 06:45:57,744 --> 06:45:57,994 floors capital thresholds 11470 06:45:59,477 --> 06:45:59,727 resident hiring rules and 11471 06:46:01,711 --> 06:46:01,961 clawbacks. I'd rather modern 11472 06:46:02,411 --> 06:46:02,661 modernize that framework and 11473 06:46:03,977 --> 06:46:04,227 then shut the door on an 11474 06:46:05,711 --> 06:46:05,961 industry already supporting tens 11475 06:46:07,744 --> 06:46:07,994 of thousands of Nevada jobs and 11476 06:46:08,444 --> 06:46:08,694 creating real revenue streams 11477 06:46:10,177 --> 06:46:10,427 for our local jurisdictions. I 11478 06:46:11,977 --> 06:46:12,227 would instead ask the committee 11479 06:46:13,477 --> 06:46:13,727 to consider legislation along 11480 06:46:14,144 --> 06:46:14,394 these lines instead of a 11481 06:46:14,711 --> 06:46:14,961 moratorium 11482 06:46:18,477 --> 06:46:18,727 thank you for that are there any 11483 06:46:19,677 --> 06:46:19,927 additional comments from members 11484 06:46:26,511 --> 06:46:26,761 OK uming none all in favor to 11485 06:46:28,111 --> 06:46:28,361 say ii 11486 06:46:31,677 --> 06:46:31,927 all opposed say nay 11487 06:46:35,977 --> 06:46:36,227 so I have two nay which is 11488 06:46:37,777 --> 06:46:38,027 assembly member cole and 11489 06:46:39,977 --> 06:46:40,227 assembly member Patchett saying 11490 06:46:40,677 --> 06:46:40,927 it right 11491 06:46:45,477 --> 06:46:45,727 so the motion carries with 11492 06:46:46,211 --> 06:46:46,461 the majority of the members 11493 06:46:48,244 --> 06:46:48,494 thank you we will move to the 11494 06:46:51,744 --> 06:46:51,994 next item which is and turn 11495 06:46:54,011 --> 06:46:54,261 it over to a s a staff member 11496 06:46:56,344 --> 06:46:56,594 Owens on summary of item A2. 11497 06:47:01,477 --> 06:47:01,727 thank you chairir Haley Owens 11498 06:47:02,244 --> 06:47:02,494 for the record. The second item 11499 06:47:03,711 --> 06:47:03,961 in the work session document for 11500 06:47:05,511 --> 06:47:05,761 consideration before the 11501 06:47:07,477 --> 06:47:07,727 committee is item A2. the 11502 06:47:09,744 --> 06:47:09,994 recommendation is to request the 11503 06:47:11,711 --> 06:47:11,961 drafting of a bill to expand the 11504 06:47:15,511 --> 06:47:15,761 provisions ofnrs360.753 which 11505 06:47:16,144 --> 06:47:16,394 allows for the partial 11506 06:47:17,777 --> 06:47:18,027 abatements of certain taxes 11507 06:47:19,744 --> 06:47:19,994 imposed on aircraft components 11508 06:47:21,511 --> 06:47:21,761 of aircraft and other personal 11509 06:47:22,244 --> 06:47:22,494 property used for certain 11510 06:47:25,511 --> 06:47:25,761 purposes related to aircraft to 11511 06:47:26,144 --> 06:47:26,394 allow for the partial abatement 11512 06:47:27,811 --> 06:47:28,061 of certain taxes imposed on 11513 06:47:28,344 --> 06:47:28,594 certain eligible aerospace 11514 06:47:28,911 --> 06:47:29,161 businesses. 11515 06:47:31,944 --> 06:47:32,194 this recommendation is proposed 11516 06:47:33,644 --> 06:47:33,894 by senator Donotte, member of 11517 06:47:34,344 --> 06:47:34,594 this committee. 11518 06:47:41,611 --> 06:47:41,861 thank you are there any 11519 06:47:42,177 --> 06:47:42,427 questions on a 11520 06:47:47,844 --> 06:47:48,094 Yeah you could senatorinate 11521 06:47:50,244 --> 06:47:50,494 thank you madam chair just 11522 06:47:51,511 --> 06:47:51,761 wanted to provide some context 11523 06:47:53,744 --> 06:47:53,994 for this bill draft Nevada 11524 06:47:55,511 --> 06:47:55,761 currently has in our existing 11525 06:47:56,111 --> 06:47:56,361 statutes for some of the 11526 06:47:57,477 --> 06:47:57,727 committee members we already 11527 06:47:58,244 --> 06:47:58,494 have an aviation abatement 11528 06:48:00,244 --> 06:48:00,494 program through the 11529 06:48:02,011 --> 06:48:02,261 presentations that we've had 11530 06:48:03,511 --> 06:48:03,761 over the interim it seems that 11531 06:48:04,244 --> 06:48:04,494 this has been an underutilized 11532 06:48:06,244 --> 06:48:06,494 asset and so what I'm seeking 11533 06:48:07,777 --> 06:48:08,027 through this bill draft 11534 06:48:09,777 --> 06:48:10,027 thanks to our chairs perhaps 11535 06:48:11,777 --> 06:48:12,027 revising the definition of who 11536 06:48:14,011 --> 06:48:14,261 qualifies most of the NrS 11537 06:48:15,511 --> 06:48:15,761 definitions right now are 11538 06:48:16,011 --> 06:48:16,261 specifically to components 11539 06:48:17,844 --> 06:48:18,094 dealing with aircrafts and so 11540 06:48:18,444 --> 06:48:18,694 all I'm seeking to do 11541 06:48:20,444 --> 06:48:20,694 is to include aerospace or 11542 06:48:23,511 --> 06:48:23,761 aeronautic components so that 11543 06:48:24,277 --> 06:48:24,527 other companies that are already 11544 06:48:25,977 --> 06:48:26,227 preexisting here can take use of 11545 06:48:28,211 --> 06:48:28,461 it or if the committee 11546 06:48:30,177 --> 06:48:30,427 decides later on to sunset it 11547 06:48:31,744 --> 06:48:31,994 then that can also be an option 11548 06:48:32,377 --> 06:48:32,627 but this would be the vehicle 11549 06:48:33,877 --> 06:48:34,127 for us to start looking at it 11550 06:48:34,577 --> 06:48:34,827 for the legislative session. 11551 06:48:38,011 --> 06:48:38,261 OK. thank you for that. So after 11552 06:48:39,511 --> 06:48:39,761 that explanation are there any 11553 06:48:40,144 --> 06:48:40,394 questions or everybody's good as 11554 06:48:43,711 --> 06:48:43,961 assembly member Anderson chair 11555 06:48:45,744 --> 06:48:45,994 thank you so much for that that 11556 06:48:47,744 --> 06:48:47,994 comment as well because I as 11557 06:48:49,744 --> 06:48:49,994 some people know I have issues 11558 06:48:51,511 --> 06:48:51,761 with abatements however the 11559 06:48:52,044 --> 06:48:52,294 information that you just 11560 06:48:53,677 --> 06:48:53,927 provided that there is also the 11561 06:48:54,377 --> 06:48:54,627 possibility of 11562 06:48:56,177 --> 06:48:56,427 pulling it back helped me out a 11563 06:48:57,977 --> 06:48:58,227 lot with this, especially since 11564 06:48:59,977 --> 06:49:00,227 this is only the drafting of the 11565 06:49:01,711 --> 06:49:01,961 bill so I will support it this 11566 06:49:03,744 --> 06:49:03,994 time but I just I really 11567 06:49:04,244 --> 06:49:04,494 appreciate both our conversation 11568 06:49:06,011 --> 06:49:06,261 last night and then also the 11569 06:49:06,644 --> 06:49:06,894 clarification on the record 11570 06:49:07,177 --> 06:49:07,427 today. 11571 06:49:08,044 --> 06:49:08,294 thank you chairir. 11572 06:49:11,711 --> 06:49:11,961 thank you for that right so 11573 06:49:14,411 --> 06:49:14,661 entertain emotion on a 2 to be 11574 06:49:15,977 --> 06:49:16,227 drafted 11575 06:49:17,944 --> 06:49:18,194 so I have a first from 11576 06:49:19,677 --> 06:49:19,927 assemblyman to silva 11577 06:49:24,611 --> 06:49:24,861 second from senatorannyatete 11578 06:49:25,277 --> 06:49:25,527 is there any discussion on the 11579 06:49:25,944 --> 06:49:26,194 motion? 11580 06:49:27,977 --> 06:49:28,227 seeing no discussion on the 11581 06:49:31,477 --> 06:49:31,727 motion all in favor say aye aye 11582 06:49:32,344 --> 06:49:32,594 any of all opposed say nay 11583 06:49:35,677 --> 06:49:35,927 seeing no opposition the motion 11584 06:49:36,344 --> 06:49:36,594 carries 11585 06:49:39,977 --> 06:49:40,227 and it will be drafted a2 11586 06:49:42,244 --> 06:49:42,494 will be drafted thank you. now 11587 06:49:44,177 --> 06:49:44,427 we will move to the next item 11588 06:49:45,977 --> 06:49:46,227 which is Miss Owens can you 11589 06:49:48,111 --> 06:49:48,361 give a staff summary of item A3. 11590 06:49:51,811 --> 06:49:52,061 Thank you Chair Haley Owens for 11591 06:49:52,477 --> 06:49:52,727 the record 11592 06:49:54,244 --> 06:49:54,494 the third item in the work 11593 06:49:55,977 --> 06:49:56,227 session document is a 11594 06:49:57,977 --> 06:49:58,227 recommendation to request the 11595 06:50:00,044 --> 06:50:00,294 drafting of a bill to revise the 11596 06:50:01,744 --> 06:50:01,994 total amount of transferable tax 11597 06:50:04,011 --> 06:50:04,261 credits for affordable housing 11598 06:50:04,644 --> 06:50:04,894 authorized pursuant to 11599 06:50:07,511 --> 06:50:07,761 subsection one paragraph B of 11600 06:50:11,977 --> 06:50:12,227 Nrs360.868 from40 million 11601 06:50:14,011 --> 06:50:14,261 dollars to80 million dollars. 11602 06:50:15,744 --> 06:50:15,994 The recommendation is based on 11603 06:50:16,344 --> 06:50:16,594 the overview of thefoable 11604 06:50:18,011 --> 06:50:18,261 housing tax credit programme 11605 06:50:19,511 --> 06:50:19,761 given by the nevada housing 11606 06:50:20,144 --> 06:50:20,394 division at the committee 11607 06:50:21,644 --> 06:50:21,894 meeting on July8,2026. 11608 06:50:29,744 --> 06:50:29,994 thank you for that so are 11609 06:50:30,244 --> 06:50:30,494 there any questions on 11610 06:50:32,611 --> 06:50:32,861 the housing tax credits 11611 06:50:37,744 --> 06:50:37,994 so I just want to add on the 11612 06:50:39,477 --> 06:50:39,727 record cause I believe Mr 11613 06:50:40,177 --> 06:50:40,427 Nakamoto it had expired this 11614 06:50:41,811 --> 06:50:42,061 past session or was going to 11615 06:50:42,444 --> 06:50:42,694 expire. 11616 06:50:46,211 --> 06:50:46,461 madam Chair Michael Nakamera 11617 06:50:48,011 --> 06:50:48,261 with fiscal analysis division 11618 06:50:50,011 --> 06:50:50,261 for the record based on the 11619 06:50:51,477 --> 06:50:51,727 information that we have 11620 06:50:52,011 --> 06:50:52,261 received from the housing 11621 06:50:54,011 --> 06:50:54,261 division and what they presented 11622 06:50:56,544 --> 06:50:56,794 at that meeting back in July 11623 06:50:58,277 --> 06:50:58,527 they anticipate that they will 11624 06:51:01,511 --> 06:51:01,761 be awarding the remainder of the 11625 06:51:03,477 --> 06:51:03,727 credits from that original40 11626 06:51:04,344 --> 06:51:04,594 million dollars time 11627 06:51:07,977 --> 06:51:08,227 in the next either this 11628 06:51:10,544 --> 06:51:10,794 fiscal year or in in the next 11629 06:51:11,244 --> 06:51:11,494 year or two 11630 06:51:15,511 --> 06:51:15,761 thank you for that and so I mean 11631 06:51:16,211 --> 06:51:16,461 every this is I mean we're doing 11632 06:51:17,977 --> 06:51:18,227 the housing tax credit and 11633 06:51:19,977 --> 06:51:20,227 increasing it because housing is 11634 06:51:22,211 --> 06:51:22,461 one of the top major issues the 11635 06:51:25,477 --> 06:51:25,727 housing tax credit not only 11636 06:51:26,144 --> 06:51:26,394 is doing the multifamily housing 11637 06:51:29,511 --> 06:51:29,761 as you know this past 11638 06:51:30,211 --> 06:51:30,461 legislative session the 11639 06:51:31,944 --> 06:51:32,194 legislature and the governor 11640 06:51:35,477 --> 06:51:35,727 moved to do also single family 11641 06:51:37,944 --> 06:51:38,194 residencies and so it's very 11642 06:51:39,511 --> 06:51:39,761 important to continue doing this 11643 06:51:41,744 --> 06:51:41,994 program what we talked about 11644 06:51:43,511 --> 06:51:43,761 which will be the goal of any 11645 06:51:45,711 --> 06:51:45,961 future legislature is that after 11646 06:51:48,177 --> 06:51:48,427 the tax credits fall off in 11647 06:51:50,011 --> 06:51:50,261 other programs then we'll be 11648 06:51:52,011 --> 06:51:52,261 able to hopefully add into the 11649 06:51:55,777 --> 06:51:56,027 housing tax credit program to 11650 06:51:56,411 --> 06:51:56,661 continue to build housing 11651 06:52:00,211 --> 06:52:00,461 across Nevada which is a very 11652 06:52:02,244 --> 06:52:02,494 important and lofty goal that we 11653 06:52:03,977 --> 06:52:04,227 would like to continue and so 11654 06:52:04,644 --> 06:52:04,894 with that 11655 06:52:07,711 --> 06:52:07,961 I will entertain a motion 11656 06:52:11,977 --> 06:52:12,227 to have a three drafted 11657 06:52:14,311 --> 06:52:14,561 so have a first from assemblyman 11658 06:52:15,977 --> 06:52:16,227 de Silva I have a second from 11659 06:52:18,344 --> 06:52:18,594 Senator Deatete are there any 11660 06:52:19,044 --> 06:52:19,294 discussion on the motion? 11661 06:52:21,777 --> 06:52:22,027 seeing no discussion on the 11662 06:52:23,677 --> 06:52:23,927 motion all in favor say aye 11663 06:52:26,211 --> 06:52:26,461 all of pope is there any 11664 06:52:26,811 --> 06:52:27,061 opposition sayy nay 11665 06:52:29,977 --> 06:52:30,227 seeing no opposition the motion 11666 06:52:32,211 --> 06:52:32,461 carries thank you we will now 11667 06:52:34,211 --> 06:52:34,461 move to the next item which is 11668 06:52:37,977 --> 06:52:38,227 staff summary item A3 so Miss 11669 06:52:38,611 --> 06:52:38,861 Owens you're up 11670 06:52:42,277 --> 06:52:42,527 thank you chairir Haley Owens 11671 06:52:44,011 --> 06:52:44,261 for the record and I will be 11672 06:52:44,711 --> 06:52:44,961 moving on to the fourth a three 11673 06:52:48,211 --> 06:52:48,461 correct thank you chair 11674 06:52:51,477 --> 06:52:51,727 the fourth item in the work 11675 06:52:52,077 --> 06:52:52,327 session document and the final 11676 06:52:53,744 --> 06:52:53,994 item under the economic 11677 06:52:55,477 --> 06:52:55,727 development and tax incentives 11678 06:52:57,511 --> 06:52:57,761 heading is item A4 the 11679 06:52:59,511 --> 06:52:59,761 recommendation is to request the 11680 06:53:00,244 --> 06:53:00,494 drafting of a bill to encourage 11681 06:53:01,977 --> 06:53:02,227 and promote economic development 11682 06:53:03,977 --> 06:53:04,227 in counties whose population is 11683 06:53:07,477 --> 06:53:07,727 less than700,000 beyond what is 11684 06:53:08,177 --> 06:53:08,427 already available under current 11685 06:53:08,877 --> 06:53:09,127 law. 11686 06:53:11,477 --> 06:53:11,727 the proposed bill may include 11687 06:53:12,244 --> 06:53:12,494 specific items relating to the 11688 06:53:13,511 --> 06:53:13,761 expansion of housing 11689 06:53:15,511 --> 06:53:15,761 availability and affordability, 11690 06:53:17,511 --> 06:53:17,761 particularly in rural areas of 11691 06:53:19,511 --> 06:53:19,761 the state as well as other 11692 06:53:20,277 --> 06:53:20,527 topics relating to economic 11693 06:53:21,744 --> 06:53:21,994 development in these counties at 11694 06:53:22,477 --> 06:53:22,727 the discretion of the chair. 11695 06:53:25,744 --> 06:53:25,994 this recommendation is based on 11696 06:53:27,511 --> 06:53:27,761 information presented during the 11697 06:53:28,377 --> 06:53:28,627 May13,2026 committee meeting. 11698 06:53:35,477 --> 06:53:35,727 thank you for that so just to 11699 06:53:36,077 --> 06:53:36,327 give a little bit of further 11700 06:53:39,711 --> 06:53:39,961 background we on May132026 we 11701 06:53:41,977 --> 06:53:42,227 had several rural counties 11702 06:53:43,877 --> 06:53:44,127 come and present to this body 11703 06:53:47,477 --> 06:53:47,727 around their economic 11704 06:53:50,444 --> 06:53:50,694 development needs it is I am 11705 06:53:55,744 --> 06:53:55,994 focused on trying to figure 11706 06:53:57,744 --> 06:53:57,994 out how to create number one 11707 06:53:59,744 --> 06:53:59,994 remove the barriers to create 11708 06:54:02,211 --> 06:54:02,461 moderate economies in rural 11709 06:54:04,211 --> 06:54:04,461 counties that can sustain 11710 06:54:05,711 --> 06:54:05,961 that so that we can have 11711 06:54:09,711 --> 06:54:09,961 a statewide economic development 11712 06:54:13,477 --> 06:54:13,727 that will serve the needs of 11713 06:54:15,777 --> 06:54:16,027 as we heard earlier lifting all 11714 06:54:19,744 --> 06:54:19,994 boats because we have 11715 06:54:21,944 --> 06:54:22,194 typically focused on our larger 11716 06:54:24,211 --> 06:54:24,461 counties and I feel that we 11717 06:54:27,744 --> 06:54:27,994 needed to do a some pivoting to 11718 06:54:29,511 --> 06:54:29,761 focus on some of our smaller 11719 06:54:32,177 --> 06:54:32,427 rural counties that are want 11720 06:54:33,777 --> 06:54:34,027 to do some more economic 11721 06:54:35,511 --> 06:54:35,761 development and try to think 11722 06:54:36,144 --> 06:54:36,394 through what is the 11723 06:54:38,377 --> 06:54:38,627 proper framework in order to 11724 06:54:38,977 --> 06:54:39,227 establish 11725 06:54:42,144 --> 06:54:42,394 giving them more of a leg up 11726 06:54:45,477 --> 06:54:45,727 and a different focus than just 11727 06:54:46,211 --> 06:54:46,461 focusing on one of our larger 11728 06:54:47,644 --> 06:54:47,894 counties such as Clark and 11729 06:54:48,211 --> 06:54:48,461 washoe. 11730 06:54:50,277 --> 06:54:50,527 so with that I will 11731 06:54:54,577 --> 06:54:54,827 entertain emotion to draft a for 11732 06:54:59,711 --> 06:54:59,961 so have a first from assemblyman 11733 06:55:01,944 --> 06:55:02,194 to silva second from senator 11734 06:55:03,877 --> 06:55:04,127 Deatete as there any discussion 11735 06:55:04,611 --> 06:55:04,861 on the motion? 11736 06:55:06,111 --> 06:55:06,361 Si member cole 11737 06:55:10,377 --> 06:55:10,627 thank you chair. I very much 11738 06:55:11,944 --> 06:55:12,194 appreciate this bill I actually 11739 06:55:13,744 --> 06:55:13,994 brought some things semisimilar 11740 06:55:15,711 --> 06:55:15,961 to it last session and it didn't 11741 06:55:17,977 --> 06:55:18,227 go anywhere dies and dies in 11742 06:55:19,977 --> 06:55:20,227 ways and means right but I 11743 06:55:21,477 --> 06:55:21,727 would be happy to work with you 11744 06:55:22,211 --> 06:55:22,461 on this if you would be willing 11745 06:55:24,077 --> 06:55:24,327 and and would love assistance 11746 06:55:24,777 --> 06:55:25,027 thank you 11747 06:55:28,244 --> 06:55:28,494 yeah that's thank you for 11748 06:55:30,444 --> 06:55:30,694 that of offer. I'm a domineering 11749 06:55:32,011 --> 06:55:32,261 personality or can you handle it 11750 06:55:33,511 --> 06:55:33,761 no I'm sorry 11751 06:55:37,477 --> 06:55:37,727 ok no all right 11752 06:55:42,244 --> 06:55:42,494 with that all in favor sayi. 11753 06:55:44,411 --> 06:55:44,661 any oppo opposition 11754 06:55:49,711 --> 06:55:49,961 oh from mascca so seeing no 11755 06:55:51,977 --> 06:55:52,227 opposition the motion carries to 11756 06:55:52,677 --> 06:55:52,927 draft a for 11757 06:55:57,644 --> 06:55:57,894 thank you so now we will move to 11758 06:55:58,311 --> 06:55:58,561 be 11759 06:56:01,744 --> 06:56:01,994 this is B5 Miss Owens. 11760 06:56:05,511 --> 06:56:05,761 thank you chairirhaleyowwens for 11761 06:56:06,177 --> 06:56:06,427 the record. The fifth item in 11762 06:56:07,711 --> 06:56:07,961 the work session document is 11763 06:56:09,511 --> 06:56:09,761 item B5 under the excise tax 11764 06:56:11,711 --> 06:56:11,961 policy heading the the 11765 06:56:13,744 --> 06:56:13,994 recommendation is to request the 11766 06:56:15,477 --> 06:56:15,727 drafting of a bill to expand the 11767 06:56:17,477 --> 06:56:17,727 tax on live entertainment and 11768 06:56:19,711 --> 06:56:19,961 posts pursuant to chapter368a of 11769 06:56:21,744 --> 06:56:21,994 the Nevadarevised statutes to 11770 06:56:23,777 --> 06:56:24,027 include the resale other than an 11771 06:56:25,744 --> 06:56:25,994 occasional sale of admission to 11772 06:56:26,477 --> 06:56:26,727 a live entertainment event by a 11773 06:56:27,144 --> 06:56:27,394 reseller. 11774 06:56:29,944 --> 06:56:30,194 this recommendation is proposed 11775 06:56:31,711 --> 06:56:31,961 by senator Neal, chair of this 11776 06:56:33,477 --> 06:56:33,727 committee, based on discussion 11777 06:56:34,177 --> 06:56:34,427 of the live entertainment tax at 11778 06:56:35,511 --> 06:56:35,761 the committee meeting on 11779 06:56:36,111 --> 06:56:36,361 February11,2026. 11780 06:56:39,511 --> 06:56:39,761 the proposed recommendation is 11781 06:56:40,111 --> 06:56:40,361 similar to the provisions of 11782 06:56:43,511 --> 06:56:43,761 senate bill444 of the2023 11783 06:56:44,244 --> 06:56:44,494 legislative session and Senate 11784 06:56:46,344 --> 06:56:46,594 Bill431 of the2025 legislative 11785 06:56:47,011 --> 06:56:47,261 session. 11786 06:56:51,744 --> 06:56:51,994 thank you for that and so for 11787 06:56:53,477 --> 06:56:53,727 members that are not familiar 11788 06:56:56,211 --> 06:56:56,461 with this I've I've well 11789 06:56:57,944 --> 06:56:58,194 there's been several iterations 11790 06:57:01,511 --> 06:57:01,761 so this is not taxing the sports 11791 06:57:03,511 --> 06:57:03,761 team so you can throw that out 11792 06:57:05,944 --> 06:57:06,194 this is actually the resale 11793 06:57:07,977 --> 06:57:08,227 market of tickets which we know 11794 06:57:09,944 --> 06:57:10,194 is actively happening if you 11795 06:57:13,711 --> 06:57:13,961 guys are familiar uhicketmaster 11796 06:57:14,377 --> 06:57:14,627 was 11797 06:57:17,711 --> 06:57:17,961 sued because they were also 11798 06:57:19,977 --> 06:57:20,227 playing the the regular 11799 06:57:21,711 --> 06:57:21,961 market and the secondary market 11800 06:57:25,477 --> 06:57:25,727 and selling tickets the way 11801 06:57:27,477 --> 06:57:27,727 that this provision would work 11802 06:57:29,477 --> 06:57:29,727 is that it's a tax on the delta 11803 06:57:31,877 --> 06:57:32,127 so just to give an example so if 11804 06:57:32,577 --> 06:57:32,827 the ticket is100 11805 06:57:35,944 --> 06:57:36,194 and then it is resold for400, 11806 06:57:38,177 --> 06:57:38,427 the taxes on the delta which is 11807 06:57:40,244 --> 06:57:40,494 the300 dollars difference 11808 06:57:41,977 --> 06:57:42,227 between the100 dollars that the 11809 06:57:44,244 --> 06:57:44,494 original ticket was sold and the 11810 06:57:47,477 --> 06:57:47,727 secondary market which then 11811 06:57:49,477 --> 06:57:49,727 sells it in the provision in the 11812 06:57:51,477 --> 06:57:51,727 bill that we had before because 11813 06:57:52,244 --> 06:57:52,494 this may come up we did deal 11814 06:57:55,777 --> 06:57:56,027 with the gaming provisions 11815 06:57:57,511 --> 06:57:57,761 because for a long time gaming 11816 06:58:00,211 --> 06:58:00,461 has had a ticket sales and you 11817 06:58:01,811 --> 06:58:02,061 know the people who come on the 11818 06:58:02,477 --> 06:58:02,727 street and like would you like 11819 06:58:05,477 --> 06:58:05,727 do a ticket to just circle Sole 11820 06:58:07,477 --> 06:58:07,727 or whatever so we dealt with 11821 06:58:09,744 --> 06:58:09,994 that in the provisions of the 11822 06:58:11,711 --> 06:58:11,961 bill so that we would not be 11823 06:58:14,244 --> 06:58:14,494 impacting that market. I also in 11824 06:58:17,711 --> 06:58:17,961 the 2025 bill I had would had 11825 06:58:19,477 --> 06:58:19,727 put in their portion because at 11826 06:58:20,211 --> 06:58:20,461 the time we were trying to 11827 06:58:22,211 --> 06:58:22,461 figure out how to pay for a 11828 06:58:24,277 --> 06:58:24,527 public transit or at least allow 11829 06:58:26,011 --> 06:58:26,261 a portion of the money to go to 11830 06:58:28,044 --> 06:58:28,294 public transit also a portion of 11831 06:58:28,777 --> 06:58:29,027 LET goes for the arts 11832 06:58:32,211 --> 06:58:32,461 they currently have had an 11833 06:58:35,477 --> 06:58:35,727 allocation that goes to the arts 11834 06:58:36,477 --> 06:58:36,727 community for a really long time 11835 06:58:38,177 --> 06:58:38,427 so just want to give that 11836 06:58:38,744 --> 06:58:38,994 background 11837 06:58:42,177 --> 06:58:42,427 if there were any questions on 11838 06:58:45,944 --> 06:58:46,194 you know what this could be or 11839 06:58:47,811 --> 06:58:48,061 what this may be in a bill draft 11840 06:58:48,477 --> 06:58:48,727 form. 11841 06:58:49,611 --> 06:58:49,861 are there any questions 11842 06:58:56,044 --> 06:58:56,294 OK so I would 11843 06:58:59,711 --> 06:58:59,961 entertain a motion for the bill 11844 06:59:02,211 --> 06:59:02,461 to be drafted for B5 on 11845 06:59:05,477 --> 06:59:05,727 so have a first from assembly 11846 06:59:07,744 --> 06:59:07,994 men to silva second from Senator 11847 06:59:09,677 --> 06:59:09,927 Deatete is there any discussion 11848 06:59:10,377 --> 06:59:10,627 on the motion? 11849 06:59:13,511 --> 06:59:13,761 seeing no discussion on the 11850 06:59:15,644 --> 06:59:15,894 motion all in favor say aye 11851 06:59:17,677 --> 06:59:17,927 any opposition 11852 06:59:21,944 --> 06:59:22,194 so I have two in opposition 11853 06:59:23,777 --> 06:59:24,027 assembly member cole and 11854 06:59:24,311 --> 06:59:24,561 assembly member Patchettha 11855 06:59:27,977 --> 06:59:28,227 you're gonna have that like all 11856 06:59:30,011 --> 06:59:30,261 session I mean like pronounce 11857 06:59:33,477 --> 06:59:33,727 all syllables right so the 11858 06:59:35,511 --> 06:59:35,761 motion carries with the majority 11859 06:59:37,811 --> 06:59:38,061 thank you we will move to the 11860 06:59:39,911 --> 06:59:40,161 next item which is staff summary 11861 06:59:40,577 --> 06:59:40,827 B6 11862 06:59:42,144 --> 06:59:42,394 staff member Owens 11863 06:59:45,977 --> 06:59:46,227 thank you chairir Haley Owens 11864 06:59:48,277 --> 06:59:48,527 for the record. The6th item for 11865 06:59:49,477 --> 06:59:49,727 consideration before the 11866 06:59:50,444 --> 06:59:50,694 committee is item B6. The 11867 06:59:52,211 --> 06:59:52,461 recommendation is to request the 11868 06:59:54,011 --> 06:59:54,261 drafting of a bill providing for 11869 06:59:56,211 --> 06:59:56,461 the imposition administration 11870 06:59:58,044 --> 06:59:58,294 collection and enforcement of 11871 06:59:59,744 --> 06:59:59,994 attacks on certain digital 11872 07:00:01,477 --> 07:00:01,727 products electronically 11873 07:00:02,211 --> 07:00:02,461 transferred to a purchaser 11874 07:00:03,777 --> 07:00:04,027 including certain digital 11875 07:00:04,344 --> 07:00:04,594 subscriptions in similar 11876 07:00:04,911 --> 07:00:05,161 services. 11877 07:00:07,744 --> 07:00:07,994 this recommendation is proposed 11878 07:00:09,511 --> 07:00:09,761 by Senator Neal, chair of this 11879 07:00:10,277 --> 07:00:10,527 committee based on the 11880 07:00:12,011 --> 07:00:12,261 discussion of the taxation of 11881 07:00:13,711 --> 07:00:13,961 digital goods at the committee 11882 07:00:16,011 --> 07:00:16,261 meeting on April1,2026. The 11883 07:00:17,511 --> 07:00:17,761 proposed recommendation is 11884 07:00:18,311 --> 07:00:18,561 similar to the provisions of 11885 07:00:20,511 --> 07:00:20,761 senate bill392 of the2025 11886 07:00:21,044 --> 07:00:21,294 legislative session. 11887 07:00:26,244 --> 07:00:26,494 thank you for that Miss Owens so 11888 07:00:28,477 --> 07:00:28,727 just backdrop I've been had this 11889 07:00:31,477 --> 07:00:31,727 bill since 2019. actually my 11890 07:00:33,777 --> 07:00:34,027 first time doing it was at the 11891 07:00:34,377 --> 07:00:34,627 same time I was doing 11892 07:00:36,011 --> 07:00:36,261 marketplace facilitator trying 11893 07:00:39,477 --> 07:00:39,727 to bring in amazon which 11894 07:00:40,011 --> 07:00:40,261 folks weren't ready for the 11895 07:00:41,511 --> 07:00:41,761 digital goods conversation in 11896 07:00:43,511 --> 07:00:43,761 2019 but thank god they were 11897 07:00:44,144 --> 07:00:44,394 ready for marketplace 11898 07:00:46,011 --> 07:00:46,261 facilitator because it passed 11899 07:00:48,144 --> 07:00:48,394 and it saved us when covid 11900 07:00:48,711 --> 07:00:48,961 hit 11901 07:00:53,711 --> 07:00:53,961 so this particular piece is a 11902 07:00:56,177 --> 07:00:56,427 modernization of sales tax we've 11903 07:00:57,977 --> 07:00:58,227 had a series of conversations 11904 07:01:00,444 --> 07:01:00,694 with streamline which issuda 11905 07:01:03,977 --> 07:01:04,227 and how we're trying to move 11906 07:01:06,211 --> 07:01:06,461 our sales tax base into the 11907 07:01:07,677 --> 07:01:07,927 current century 11908 07:01:12,011 --> 07:01:12,261 products have changed you are no 11909 07:01:13,744 --> 07:01:13,994 longer as we've done 11910 07:01:15,477 --> 07:01:15,727 presentations assembly member 11911 07:01:18,011 --> 07:01:18,261 Anderson and I in 25 session 11912 07:01:19,744 --> 07:01:19,994 you're no longer if you could be 11913 07:01:23,744 --> 07:01:23,994 right buying DVDs but if 11914 07:01:26,244 --> 07:01:26,494 you are thank you but if 11915 07:01:27,977 --> 07:01:28,227 you're not and you're streaming 11916 07:01:29,711 --> 07:01:29,961 and you're downloading then that 11917 07:01:31,511 --> 07:01:31,761 is now the new form so most 11918 07:01:33,511 --> 07:01:33,761 things are happening either in a 11919 07:01:34,177 --> 07:01:34,427 digital format. there's a 11920 07:01:36,011 --> 07:01:36,261 digital good that is being 11921 07:01:38,377 --> 07:01:38,627 produced in multiple ways and at 11922 07:01:39,077 --> 07:01:39,327 the same time as 11923 07:01:41,711 --> 07:01:41,961 that digital market came in we 11924 07:01:44,277 --> 07:01:44,527 also lost the durable good that 11925 07:01:46,177 --> 07:01:46,427 used to be the companion so when 11926 07:01:48,211 --> 07:01:48,461 you bought the VHS tape there 11927 07:01:49,811 --> 07:01:50,061 used to be the VCR that went 11928 07:01:51,777 --> 07:01:52,027 along with it so that was that 11929 07:01:53,511 --> 07:01:53,761 is an example of the durable 11930 07:01:55,711 --> 07:01:55,961 good it'd be the same thing for 11931 07:01:58,311 --> 07:01:58,561 the people who may not be as old 11932 07:02:02,244 --> 07:02:02,494 as me and Mr Nakamoto but you 11933 07:02:03,977 --> 07:02:04,227 you you went out and bought your 11934 07:02:06,277 --> 07:02:06,527 walklkman which was a durable 11935 07:02:07,911 --> 07:02:08,161 good and then you put the 11936 07:02:08,477 --> 07:02:08,727 cassette in there 11937 07:02:11,477 --> 07:02:11,727 and now you are no longer 11938 07:02:13,477 --> 07:02:13,727 purchasing those items and so 11939 07:02:14,477 --> 07:02:14,727 ultimately you now are 11940 07:02:16,011 --> 07:02:16,261 downloading whatever your music 11941 07:02:18,277 --> 07:02:18,527 is on Pandora Spotify or 11942 07:02:20,011 --> 07:02:20,261 whatever your form is in order 11943 07:02:22,011 --> 07:02:22,261 that you get your wonderful 11944 07:02:23,811 --> 07:02:24,061 music or you're on YouTube 11945 07:02:24,377 --> 07:02:24,627 musiciv them money. 11946 07:02:24,811 --> 07:02:25,061 so 11947 07:02:28,011 --> 07:02:28,261 at the end of the day we are 11948 07:02:30,011 --> 07:02:30,261 trying to modernize our sales 11949 07:02:32,511 --> 07:02:32,761 tax statute behaviors change 11950 07:02:34,311 --> 07:02:34,561 consumer behavior has changed 11951 07:02:37,644 --> 07:02:37,894 this bill will include 11952 07:02:42,011 --> 07:02:42,261 subscriptions I there's this 11953 07:02:43,944 --> 07:02:44,194 new thing going on called book 11954 07:02:47,477 --> 07:02:47,727 talks if you for some reason 11955 07:02:48,244 --> 07:02:48,494 nobody's on these things but 11956 07:02:49,944 --> 07:02:50,194 there's a million apps where you 11957 07:02:52,211 --> 07:02:52,461 can download stories and pay 11958 07:02:54,211 --> 07:02:54,461 literally by chapter and I would 11959 07:02:57,711 --> 07:02:57,961 say your chapter may be pages or 11960 07:02:59,477 --> 07:02:59,727 it might be6 minutes but they're 11961 07:03:03,511 --> 07:03:03,761 gonna get $9.99 or10 dollars 99 11962 07:03:05,777 --> 07:03:06,027 cents per chapter or six minutes 11963 07:03:07,644 --> 07:03:07,894 of your life and then hook you 11964 07:03:08,377 --> 07:03:08,627 to either a 11965 07:03:10,444 --> 07:03:10,694 $99 subscription so you can 11966 07:03:13,511 --> 07:03:13,761 finish a book rather than you 11967 07:03:14,077 --> 07:03:14,327 just being able to go to barnes 11968 07:03:17,477 --> 07:03:17,727 and noble, pay 2499 and walk out 11969 07:03:18,211 --> 07:03:18,461 with all the chapters you would 11970 07:03:21,744 --> 07:03:21,994 like to read for the 2499 11971 07:03:23,877 --> 07:03:24,127 bargain price so the market has 11972 07:03:24,577 --> 07:03:24,827 changed 11973 07:03:26,177 --> 07:03:26,427 so with that 11974 07:03:29,877 --> 07:03:30,127 I'll take a much or is there any 11975 07:03:30,577 --> 07:03:30,827 discussion on digital goods? 11976 07:03:35,477 --> 07:03:35,727 OK so with that I'll entertain 11977 07:03:37,677 --> 07:03:37,927 emotion for B6 to be drafted 11978 07:03:40,211 --> 07:03:40,461 but first from assemblyman to 11979 07:03:42,211 --> 07:03:42,461 silva second from senator 11980 07:03:43,944 --> 07:03:44,194 Deatete any discussion on the 11981 07:03:44,611 --> 07:03:44,861 motion? 11982 07:03:47,511 --> 07:03:47,761 seeing no discussion all in 11983 07:03:49,977 --> 07:03:50,227 favor to say aye aye any 11984 07:03:50,544 --> 07:03:50,794 opposition say nay 11985 07:03:51,911 --> 07:03:52,161 so I have both 11986 07:03:56,011 --> 07:03:56,261 assembly member cole and 11987 07:03:58,511 --> 07:03:58,761 assembly member Patchett no one 11988 07:03:59,644 --> 07:03:59,894 digital goods thank you 11989 07:04:03,744 --> 07:04:03,994 it's not my first rodeo of nose. 11990 07:04:07,711 --> 07:04:07,961 right so motion carries to draft 11991 07:04:11,511 --> 07:04:11,761 B6 thank you we will now move to 11992 07:04:12,411 --> 07:04:12,661 be7 Miss Owens 11993 07:04:15,977 --> 07:04:16,227 thank you chairir Haley Owens 11994 07:04:17,944 --> 07:04:18,194 for the record. The7th item in 11995 07:04:19,511 --> 07:04:19,761 the work session document 11996 07:04:20,077 --> 07:04:20,327 still under the excise tax 11997 07:04:21,677 --> 07:04:21,927 policy heading is item B7 11998 07:04:25,711 --> 07:04:25,961 the recommendation is to request 11999 07:04:27,477 --> 07:04:27,727 the drafting of a bill to revise 12000 07:04:28,244 --> 07:04:28,494 the tax on other tobacco 12001 07:04:30,211 --> 07:04:30,461 products located in chapter370 12002 07:04:32,011 --> 07:04:32,261 of the Nevadarevised statutes. 12003 07:04:34,044 --> 07:04:34,294 The proposed changes may include 12004 07:04:34,711 --> 07:04:34,961 one or more of the following 12005 07:04:38,044 --> 07:04:38,294 a revising the structure of the 12006 07:04:40,011 --> 07:04:40,261 tax to impose it at the retail 12007 07:04:41,844 --> 07:04:42,094 level rather than the wholesale 12008 07:04:42,511 --> 07:04:42,761 level 12009 07:04:45,711 --> 07:04:45,961 b clarifying the definition of 12010 07:04:48,177 --> 07:04:48,427 other tobacco product to include 12011 07:04:49,977 --> 07:04:50,227 certain tobacco products not 12012 07:04:51,777 --> 07:04:52,027 currently included in the tax 12013 07:04:52,744 --> 07:04:52,994 base see increasing the tax rate 12014 07:04:57,477 --> 07:04:57,727 and any other relevant changes 12015 07:04:58,377 --> 07:04:58,627 to this tax as determined by the 12016 07:04:59,044 --> 07:04:59,294 chair of the committee. 12017 07:05:01,744 --> 07:05:01,994 this recommendation is proposed 12018 07:05:03,777 --> 07:05:04,027 by senator neal, chair of this 12019 07:05:05,511 --> 07:05:05,761 committee based on discussion of 12020 07:05:06,244 --> 07:05:06,494 tobacco taxes at the committee 12021 07:05:07,711 --> 07:05:07,961 meeting on July8,2026. 12022 07:05:12,444 --> 07:05:12,694 thank you for that Miss Owens. 12023 07:05:14,411 --> 07:05:14,661 so just a little backdrop for 12024 07:05:15,111 --> 07:05:15,361 the members that were not here 12025 07:05:18,277 --> 07:05:18,527 you had saw some of the 12026 07:05:20,011 --> 07:05:20,261 public comment this morning we 12027 07:05:21,477 --> 07:05:21,727 had a presentation from the 12028 07:05:24,011 --> 07:05:24,261 tobacco coalition which wanted 12029 07:05:25,544 --> 07:05:25,794 to and they're still asking for 12030 07:05:28,044 --> 07:05:28,294 that to double the tobacco rate 12031 07:05:29,811 --> 07:05:30,061 tobacco tax 12032 07:05:33,477 --> 07:05:33,727 we also had a presentation for 12033 07:05:35,944 --> 07:05:36,194 Sakamoto after that presentation 12034 07:05:38,211 --> 07:05:38,461 from the tobacco coalition that 12035 07:05:40,211 --> 07:05:40,461 the increasing of that rate 12036 07:05:43,544 --> 07:05:43,794 would ultimately then cause a 12037 07:05:44,277 --> 07:05:44,527 decrease we're currently in a 12038 07:05:46,277 --> 07:05:46,527 decrease because the prevention 12039 07:05:48,244 --> 07:05:48,494 efforts are working right so if 12040 07:05:50,477 --> 07:05:50,727 we increase it we would run into 12041 07:05:52,011 --> 07:05:52,261 the same problem. so the 12042 07:05:53,744 --> 07:05:53,994 question that I you know I 12043 07:05:55,511 --> 07:05:55,761 internally posed was you know 12044 07:05:56,244 --> 07:05:56,494 unless we're getting ready to 12045 07:05:58,277 --> 07:05:58,527 solve the problem in the next 12046 07:05:59,844 --> 07:06:00,094 three years the increase would 12047 07:06:00,544 --> 07:06:00,794 not actually 12048 07:06:03,744 --> 07:06:03,994 solve the issue so having the3 12049 07:06:06,144 --> 07:06:06,394 dollars pack of cigarettes 12050 07:06:09,977 --> 07:06:10,227 wouldn't actually although it'll 12051 07:06:11,977 --> 07:06:12,227 give you money in the short term 12052 07:06:13,944 --> 07:06:14,194 we started to look at OTP and 12053 07:06:15,711 --> 07:06:15,961 try to examine whether or not 12054 07:06:19,711 --> 07:06:19,961 OTP is a better option this bill 12055 07:06:22,044 --> 07:06:22,294 is one of the ones that you know 12056 07:06:23,744 --> 07:06:23,994 we just have to think through 12057 07:06:25,744 --> 07:06:25,994 what makes sense and how we're 12058 07:06:26,444 --> 07:06:26,694 going to figure out the revenue. 12059 07:06:27,977 --> 07:06:28,227 one of the other things that I 12060 07:06:29,877 --> 07:06:30,127 tasked which is the other 12061 07:06:34,244 --> 07:06:34,494 staff with on this one is 12062 07:06:36,277 --> 07:06:36,527 because tobacco is also a 12063 07:06:39,744 --> 07:06:39,994 part of thecta distribution is 12064 07:06:41,711 --> 07:06:41,961 to determine if there would be 12065 07:06:44,011 --> 07:06:44,261 any effect if OTP was I 12066 07:06:45,744 --> 07:06:45,994 believe added to the first tier 12067 07:06:48,044 --> 07:06:48,294 or second tier of the tobacco 12068 07:06:50,344 --> 07:06:50,594 is a lot of things we have to 12069 07:06:51,777 --> 07:06:52,027 consider but we don't have time 12070 07:06:53,511 --> 07:06:53,761 to consider it during the 12071 07:06:54,177 --> 07:06:54,427 interim and so 12072 07:06:57,777 --> 07:06:58,027 you know we're just gonna try to 12073 07:06:58,511 --> 07:06:58,761 work through it and figure out 12074 07:06:59,977 --> 07:07:00,227 what the tobacco coalition what 12075 07:07:01,977 --> 07:07:02,227 would be the best thing that we 12076 07:07:04,277 --> 07:07:04,527 can do but doubling the tax is 12077 07:07:07,477 --> 07:07:07,727 just not sustainable so with 12078 07:07:09,744 --> 07:07:09,994 that members are there any 12079 07:07:10,377 --> 07:07:10,627 questions on B7. 12080 07:07:13,744 --> 07:07:13,994 seeing no questions I will 12081 07:07:15,611 --> 07:07:15,861 entertain a motion for B7 to be 12082 07:07:20,244 --> 07:07:20,494 have a first from assemblyman to 12083 07:07:22,011 --> 07:07:22,261 silva second from Senator 12084 07:07:24,211 --> 07:07:24,461 Deatete is there any discussion 12085 07:07:25,677 --> 07:07:25,927 on the motion assembly memberm 12086 07:07:26,344 --> 07:07:26,594 cole 12087 07:07:29,944 --> 07:07:30,194 thank you chair. I don't 12088 07:07:31,477 --> 07:07:31,727 necessarily object to the 12089 07:07:33,511 --> 07:07:33,761 general framework but I would 12090 07:07:35,511 --> 07:07:35,761 ask that as the bill is drafted 12091 07:07:36,177 --> 07:07:36,427 we include a discount or reduced 12092 07:07:39,511 --> 07:07:39,761 rate for the products that FdaA 12093 07:07:41,511 --> 07:07:41,761 has designated as modified risks 12094 07:07:43,711 --> 07:07:43,961 tobacco products they have 12095 07:07:44,444 --> 07:07:44,694 gone through rigorous federal 12096 07:07:46,277 --> 07:07:46,527 review establishing that they 12097 07:07:48,011 --> 07:07:48,261 pose less risk than combustible 12098 07:07:50,011 --> 07:07:50,261 tobacco and our tax policies 12099 07:07:51,744 --> 07:07:51,994 should reflect that distinction 12100 07:07:53,744 --> 07:07:53,994 so I would ask with chair's 12101 07:07:55,844 --> 07:07:56,094 permission that that be 12102 07:07:56,444 --> 07:07:56,694 included in the final draft 12103 07:08:00,244 --> 07:08:00,494 so thank you for that and I mean 12104 07:08:01,744 --> 07:08:01,994 I just have to ask this clarify 12105 07:08:03,511 --> 07:08:03,761 clarifying question are you 12106 07:08:04,077 --> 07:08:04,327 talking about like Philip Morris 12107 07:08:05,477 --> 07:08:05,727 because they they presented to 12108 07:08:07,477 --> 07:08:07,727 us I believe in what's that 12109 07:08:08,144 --> 07:08:08,394 interim 12110 07:08:08,394 --> 07:08:08,644 20 12111 07:08:09,844 --> 07:08:10,094 or 12112 07:08:12,211 --> 07:08:12,461 is that where is that the same 12113 07:08:13,977 --> 07:08:14,227 product so it's any product 12114 07:08:15,744 --> 07:08:15,994 that the fdaA would would 12115 07:08:18,211 --> 07:08:18,461 establish as reading or meeting 12116 07:08:19,944 --> 07:08:20,194 their rigorous requirements 12117 07:08:21,744 --> 07:08:21,994 right and I don't know exactly 12118 07:08:23,511 --> 07:08:23,761 what company out there have gone 12119 07:08:24,211 --> 07:08:24,461 through that process or are in 12120 07:08:25,944 --> 07:08:26,194 the process of doing it again 12121 07:08:27,744 --> 07:08:27,994 it's you know it takes years and 12122 07:08:28,444 --> 07:08:28,694 years and years so I don't know 12123 07:08:29,111 --> 07:08:29,361 that list. 12124 07:08:32,277 --> 07:08:32,527 all right is there are there is 12125 07:08:32,911 --> 07:08:33,161 there any other discussion on 12126 07:08:33,611 --> 07:08:33,861 the motion? 12127 07:08:37,477 --> 07:08:37,727 seeing none all in favor to say 12128 07:08:38,144 --> 07:08:38,394 aye 12129 07:08:43,511 --> 07:08:43,761 any opposition B7 so I have a 12130 07:08:44,177 --> 07:08:44,427 nay from assembly member 12131 07:08:44,744 --> 07:08:44,994 Patchett. 12132 07:08:49,744 --> 07:08:49,994 ok so the assembly memberber 12133 07:08:50,344 --> 07:08:50,594 cole you voted for it 12134 07:08:54,544 --> 07:08:54,794 so the motion carries and 12135 07:09:01,511 --> 07:09:01,761 B7 will be drafted thank you 12136 07:09:02,144 --> 07:09:02,394 and now we have 12137 07:09:04,277 --> 07:09:04,527 the a 12138 07:09:06,144 --> 07:09:06,394 amm I doing CA 12139 07:09:10,244 --> 07:09:10,494 yeah technically I am doing CA I 12140 07:09:11,844 --> 07:09:12,094 need to docA assembly member 12141 07:09:15,711 --> 07:09:15,961 and the staffowwens do you wanna 12142 07:09:17,844 --> 07:09:18,094 or do you want me to explain my 12143 07:09:18,511 --> 07:09:18,761 life on C8. 12144 07:09:23,511 --> 07:09:23,761 chair I can I can read the text 12145 07:09:24,211 --> 07:09:24,461 and and you can expand if that 12146 07:09:24,877 --> 07:09:25,127 works for you. 12147 07:09:30,277 --> 07:09:30,527 ho ul d I go ahead 12148 07:09:35,777 --> 07:09:36,027 I I can't see the camera's not 12149 07:09:37,744 --> 07:09:37,994 zoomed in I'm'll I'll go ahead 12150 07:09:39,511 --> 07:09:39,761 and begin reading thank you 12151 07:09:40,244 --> 07:09:40,494 chairir Haley Owens for the 12152 07:09:42,044 --> 07:09:42,294 record the eth and final item in 12153 07:09:43,777 --> 07:09:44,027 the work session document is 12154 07:09:45,744 --> 07:09:45,994 item C8. The recommendation is 12155 07:09:46,477 --> 07:09:46,727 to request the drafting of a 12156 07:09:48,011 --> 07:09:48,261 bill providing for various 12157 07:09:49,711 --> 07:09:49,961 changes to one or more taxes 12158 07:09:51,744 --> 07:09:51,994 imposed under Title3I of 12159 07:09:53,744 --> 07:09:53,994 thenevada revised statutes. The 12160 07:09:55,511 --> 07:09:55,761 bill may make changes to the 12161 07:09:57,477 --> 07:09:57,727 rates, tax base or exemptions 12162 07:09:58,211 --> 07:09:58,461 for one or more of these taxes 12163 07:09:59,744 --> 07:09:59,994 rec this recommendation is 12164 07:10:00,611 --> 07:10:00,861 proposed by Senator Neal, chair 12165 07:10:01,311 --> 07:10:01,561 of this committee. 12166 07:10:07,977 --> 07:10:08,227 thank you for that so this 12167 07:10:09,711 --> 07:10:09,961 was more of a catch all because 12168 07:10:10,377 --> 07:10:10,627 we have some 12169 07:10:13,477 --> 07:10:13,727 as you know we've had some 12170 07:10:14,077 --> 07:10:14,327 presentations today 12171 07:10:18,177 --> 07:10:18,427 we just want to leave room to 12172 07:10:21,477 --> 07:10:21,727 potentially do some other tax 12173 07:10:23,977 --> 07:10:24,227 policy anditle ir2 pretty much 12174 07:10:25,877 --> 07:10:26,127 covers majority of the chapters 12175 07:10:29,744 --> 07:10:29,994 but I did want to have a 12176 07:10:31,477 --> 07:10:31,727 discussion with Mister Nakamoto 12177 07:10:32,177 --> 07:10:32,427 because I don't know if that 12178 07:10:33,944 --> 07:10:34,194 would end up being I didn't want 12179 07:10:35,711 --> 07:10:35,961 it to be, but did you get a 12180 07:10:36,277 --> 07:10:36,527 opinion on whether or not I 12181 07:10:36,844 --> 07:10:37,094 would be able to add 12182 07:10:39,811 --> 07:10:40,061 a title is ititle41? 12183 07:10:44,011 --> 07:10:44,261 madam chairirminouner with 12184 07:10:45,711 --> 07:10:45,961 fiscal analysis division for the 12185 07:10:47,977 --> 07:10:48,227 record I am still waiting for a 12186 07:10:50,044 --> 07:10:50,294 response from legal counsel 12187 07:10:50,611 --> 07:10:50,861 on that 12188 07:10:51,844 --> 07:10:52,094 so 12189 07:10:57,977 --> 07:10:58,227 so Id I need to probably create 12190 07:10:58,677 --> 07:10:58,927 a9 then 12191 07:11:03,477 --> 07:11:03,727 OK so all right so let me take 12192 07:11:04,077 --> 07:11:04,327 the motion on 12193 07:11:06,411 --> 07:11:06,661 is are there any questions on 12194 07:11:07,011 --> 07:11:07,261 C8? 12195 07:11:15,511 --> 07:11:15,761 ok so I will entertain motion 12196 07:11:18,211 --> 07:11:18,461 to draft a potential policy on 12197 07:11:20,244 --> 07:11:20,494 C8 which is like a catch all for 12198 07:11:21,777 --> 07:11:22,027 some other things that we may 12199 07:11:22,444 --> 07:11:22,694 need to get to so moved 12200 07:11:25,477 --> 07:11:25,727 so have a first from assemblyman 12201 07:11:26,211 --> 07:11:26,461 to silva second from senator 12202 07:11:27,811 --> 07:11:28,061 Diatete any discussion on the 12203 07:11:28,511 --> 07:11:28,761 motion 12204 07:11:29,811 --> 07:11:30,061 assembly member call 12205 07:11:34,011 --> 07:11:34,261 thank you madam chairir I 12206 07:11:35,511 --> 07:11:35,761 just want slag a concern that I 12207 07:11:37,511 --> 07:11:37,761 have with this recommendation as 12208 07:11:38,211 --> 07:11:38,461 written and and amended 12209 07:11:41,777 --> 07:11:42,027 so this request just seems very 12210 07:11:43,511 --> 07:11:43,761 broad to me with unspecified 12211 07:11:44,277 --> 07:11:44,527 changes to rates tax base 12212 07:11:46,244 --> 07:11:46,494 exemptions across all of Title3I 12213 07:11:50,011 --> 07:11:50,261 and possibly41 and clearly 12214 07:11:51,744 --> 07:11:51,994 the the goal is to raise taxes 12215 07:11:53,744 --> 07:11:53,994 on taxpayers so fort that reason 12216 07:11:55,511 --> 07:11:55,761 I will be a no but I also just 12217 07:11:57,711 --> 07:11:57,961 want to make a a a note on the 12218 07:11:58,344 --> 07:11:58,594 record and it's probably going 12219 07:11:59,944 --> 07:12:00,194 to make me seem really naive and 12220 07:12:01,777 --> 07:12:02,027 and silly as a as a freshman 12221 07:12:03,744 --> 07:12:03,994 legislator but I came into this 12222 07:12:06,011 --> 07:12:06,261 interim process expecting that 12223 07:12:07,744 --> 07:12:07,994 the committee's purpose it is 12224 07:12:08,444 --> 07:12:08,694 not just this committee it's all 12225 07:12:09,111 --> 07:12:09,361 the committees that have've 12226 07:12:11,977 --> 07:12:12,227 sat in thus far but I expected 12227 07:12:13,711 --> 07:12:13,961 the committee purpose to to use 12228 07:12:15,477 --> 07:12:15,727 the 9 or10 months between 12229 07:12:17,511 --> 07:12:17,761 sessions to work through bill 12230 07:12:18,211 --> 07:12:18,461 draft requests carefully and so 12231 07:12:19,977 --> 07:12:20,227 that by the time we reach the120 12232 07:12:21,744 --> 07:12:21,994 day regular session the next 12233 07:12:23,777 --> 07:12:24,027 year that we're advancing really 12234 07:12:25,744 --> 07:12:25,994 well considered legislation 12235 07:12:26,311 --> 07:12:26,561 rather than starting from 12236 07:12:28,011 --> 07:12:28,261 scratch right because we don't 12237 07:12:29,944 --> 07:12:30,194 have enough time in120 days but 12238 07:12:31,711 --> 07:12:31,961 this request is very open ended 12239 07:12:33,511 --> 07:12:33,761 and it doesn't it doesn't feel 12240 07:12:35,977 --> 07:12:36,227 like it reflects that process 12241 07:12:38,044 --> 07:12:38,294 and that just disheartens me I 12242 07:12:38,744 --> 07:12:38,994 guess from a transparency 12243 07:12:39,277 --> 07:12:39,527 perspect 12244 07:12:41,711 --> 07:12:41,961 ive with with our 12245 07:12:45,477 --> 07:12:45,727 constituents so to me and and 12246 07:12:47,477 --> 07:12:47,727 I know this is a a really far 12247 07:12:48,511 --> 07:12:48,761 reach for asking a committee to 12248 07:12:49,744 --> 07:12:49,994 do this but I would love to see 12249 07:12:51,777 --> 07:12:52,027 more specificity about the 12250 07:12:52,377 --> 07:12:52,627 problem we're trying to solve 12251 07:12:53,777 --> 07:12:54,027 and then you know the wall 12252 07:12:55,777 --> 07:12:56,027 articulated request so that I 12253 07:12:57,744 --> 07:12:57,994 can confidently vote something 12254 07:12:58,377 --> 07:12:58,627 out of committee but thank you. 12255 07:13:02,177 --> 07:13:02,427 thank you for that commentary 12256 07:13:05,477 --> 07:13:05,727 so basically when we talked 12257 07:13:07,477 --> 07:13:07,727 about several different topics 12258 07:13:09,477 --> 07:13:09,727 over the past few months there's 12259 07:13:10,244 --> 07:13:10,494 just still some open ended 12260 07:13:12,277 --> 07:13:12,527 issues that 12261 07:13:16,211 --> 07:13:16,461 I I I just don't know where 12262 07:13:17,977 --> 07:13:18,227 we're going we might go but 12263 07:13:19,744 --> 07:13:19,994 maybe the business community 12264 07:13:21,711 --> 07:13:21,961 says absolutely not. but at the 12265 07:13:23,977 --> 07:13:24,227 end of the day I needed to make 12266 07:13:25,944 --> 07:13:26,194 room because we were looking at 12267 07:13:28,177 --> 07:13:28,427 increased rates on certain 12268 07:13:30,377 --> 07:13:30,627 categories that hadn't been 12269 07:13:30,977 --> 07:13:31,227 touched in 15 years. 12270 07:13:34,011 --> 07:13:34,261 which I started off the 12271 07:13:36,011 --> 07:13:36,261 conversation at the beginning of 12272 07:13:37,977 --> 07:13:38,227 the all of the interim meetings 12273 07:13:40,077 --> 07:13:40,327 saying that you know we're on a 12274 07:13:40,744 --> 07:13:40,994 modernization 12275 07:13:44,177 --> 07:13:44,427 we're also looking to look at 12276 07:13:46,211 --> 07:13:46,461 updates so I'll give you one 12277 07:13:48,177 --> 07:13:48,427 example where this probably is 12278 07:13:51,477 --> 07:13:51,727 going to be inclusive so if you 12279 07:13:53,711 --> 07:13:53,961 well you weren't so it during 12280 07:13:56,011 --> 07:13:56,261 the legislative session we had a 12281 07:13:56,677 --> 07:13:56,927 meeting a ways after darkrk. 12282 07:14:00,344 --> 07:14:00,594 and in that meeting ways after 12283 07:14:01,044 --> 07:14:01,294 dark 12284 07:14:03,977 --> 07:14:04,227 which happened on the assembly 12285 07:14:05,944 --> 07:14:06,194 side there was a document 12286 07:14:08,211 --> 07:14:08,461 produced by Mr Nakamoto in all 12287 07:14:10,011 --> 07:14:10,261 of its glory that listed veryy 12288 07:14:15,477 --> 07:14:15,727 nuanced pieces that could 12289 07:14:16,211 --> 07:14:16,461 be changed that were not big 12290 07:14:18,011 --> 07:14:18,261 ticket changes but they were 12291 07:14:20,244 --> 07:14:20,494 small changes in various 12292 07:14:21,777 --> 07:14:22,027 categories but you know whether 12293 07:14:23,644 --> 07:14:23,894 or not it was like a small 12294 07:14:24,211 --> 07:14:24,461 exemption 12295 07:14:26,211 --> 07:14:26,461 that probably could be 12296 07:14:27,744 --> 07:14:27,994 removed that would generate 12297 07:14:30,211 --> 07:14:30,461 revenue or make that particular 12298 07:14:33,477 --> 07:14:33,727 tax perform better and so what I 12299 07:14:35,711 --> 07:14:35,961 told him was that I'm looking to 12300 07:14:36,411 --> 07:14:36,661 see what are some of the small 12301 07:14:38,211 --> 07:14:38,461 changes that we could do that 12302 07:14:40,177 --> 07:14:40,427 would then be a combined effort 12303 07:14:43,977 --> 07:14:44,227 without big ticket wholesale 12304 07:14:46,211 --> 07:14:46,461 changes such as like changing 12305 07:14:47,944 --> 07:14:48,194 the MBT so 12306 07:14:50,211 --> 07:14:50,461 looking at all of those things 12307 07:14:51,744 --> 07:14:51,994 that were already produced that 12308 07:14:53,844 --> 07:14:54,094 we had a hearing on in 25 12309 07:14:56,211 --> 07:14:56,461 where there were small items 12310 07:14:58,211 --> 07:14:58,461 that they just make the 12311 07:15:01,944 --> 07:15:02,194 performance of the existing tax 12312 07:15:04,211 --> 07:15:04,461 better and that this was one of 12313 07:15:07,977 --> 07:15:08,227 the areas in C8 that I asked 12314 07:15:09,977 --> 07:15:10,227 them to examine and look at 12315 07:15:11,944 --> 07:15:12,194 right? It's also a document that 12316 07:15:13,977 --> 07:15:14,227 I've been carrying around 12317 07:15:15,944 --> 07:15:16,194 like a bag lady like in my 12318 07:15:17,977 --> 07:15:18,227 backpack because it was such a 12319 07:15:19,977 --> 07:15:20,227 thorough document that just 12320 07:15:21,977 --> 07:15:22,227 kind of explored each and 12321 07:15:23,844 --> 07:15:24,094 everyta that well not all I 12322 07:15:24,411 --> 07:15:24,661 would say 12323 07:15:27,511 --> 07:15:27,761 majority that we put forth and 12324 07:15:28,211 --> 07:15:28,461 had these little small changes 12325 07:15:29,977 --> 07:15:30,227 that could be made but in 12326 07:15:31,944 --> 07:15:32,194 combination they would make a 12327 07:15:35,477 --> 07:15:35,727 difference to the efficiency of 12328 07:15:36,411 --> 07:15:36,661 attacks so this was really what 12329 07:15:39,844 --> 07:15:40,094 I was getting at in C8 so 12330 07:15:44,177 --> 07:15:44,427 if that helps fine if it doesn't 12331 07:15:47,744 --> 07:15:47,994 that's fine too but it would be 12332 07:15:49,744 --> 07:15:49,994 I would be hard pressed to spell 12333 07:15:51,677 --> 07:15:51,927 all of those things out 12334 07:15:54,277 --> 07:15:54,527 a document exists maybe you know 12335 07:15:58,211 --> 07:15:58,461 I mean technically if you want 12336 07:15:59,677 --> 07:15:59,927 to see it I'm sure 12337 07:16:02,244 --> 07:16:02,494 Mister Nakamoto could share a 12338 07:16:04,077 --> 07:16:04,327 copy or mail it to your house if 12339 07:16:05,477 --> 07:16:05,727 you just have it for the 12340 07:16:07,977 --> 07:16:08,227 presence of mind for 2027 if 12341 07:16:08,577 --> 07:16:08,827 any of those taxes pop up 12342 07:16:11,977 --> 07:16:12,227 but that's what I was looking at 12343 07:16:15,477 --> 07:16:15,727 so if that helps the record 12344 07:16:17,511 --> 07:16:17,761 I've always been a revenue chair 12345 07:16:19,644 --> 07:16:19,894 but I'm also not you know 12346 07:16:24,044 --> 07:16:24,294 I mean you might think the data 12347 07:16:25,977 --> 07:16:26,227 moratorium was crazy but the 12348 07:16:27,777 --> 07:16:28,027 thing is I don't actually just 12349 07:16:28,444 --> 07:16:28,694 go out of my way to just you 12350 07:16:29,111 --> 07:16:29,361 know 12351 07:16:32,277 --> 07:16:32,527 sucker punch businesses right 12352 07:16:35,477 --> 07:16:35,727 with taxes I typically have the 12353 07:16:37,511 --> 07:16:37,761 conversation and say this is 12354 07:16:38,477 --> 07:16:38,727 what I'm doing love it hate it 12355 07:16:41,777 --> 07:16:42,027 but here it is right? I actually 12356 07:16:43,511 --> 07:16:43,761 don't pull any punches and there 12357 07:16:44,244 --> 07:16:44,494 wouldn't be a single business 12358 07:16:47,511 --> 07:16:47,761 person that would tell you that 12359 07:16:49,744 --> 07:16:49,994 I have randomly shown up and 12360 07:16:50,477 --> 07:16:50,727 said you know what you didn't 12361 07:16:52,011 --> 07:16:52,261 know what was coming cause I 12362 07:16:53,977 --> 07:16:54,227 usually say you're gonna hate 12363 07:16:54,644 --> 07:16:54,894 this I'm doing it. 12364 07:16:57,777 --> 07:16:58,027 hatete it hate it hate it later 12365 07:16:59,511 --> 07:16:59,761 hate it on the record but this 12366 07:17:00,111 --> 07:17:00,361 is happening it's probably 12367 07:17:00,711 --> 07:17:00,961 getting a hearing 12368 07:17:04,211 --> 07:17:04,461 so but I'm always transparent 12369 07:17:07,477 --> 07:17:07,727 on any business tax and I 12370 07:17:08,211 --> 07:17:08,461 talked to the business community 12371 07:17:09,977 --> 07:17:10,227 and I tell them exactly what I'm 12372 07:17:12,011 --> 07:17:12,261 gonna do right? even if they're 12373 07:17:14,011 --> 07:17:14,261 just like I hate this and I know 12374 07:17:16,044 --> 07:17:16,294 some people who hate LET but 12375 07:17:16,611 --> 07:17:16,861 that's ok right? 12376 07:17:19,944 --> 07:17:20,194 part of it's part of the 12377 07:17:21,511 --> 07:17:21,761 conversation at the end of the 12378 07:17:22,177 --> 07:17:22,427 day we need to raise revenue in 12379 07:17:22,844 --> 07:17:23,094 the state. 12380 07:17:25,844 --> 07:17:26,094 we are potentially facing seven 12381 07:17:27,844 --> 07:17:28,094 billion dollars hit 12382 07:17:30,477 --> 07:17:30,727 just because of the big 12383 07:17:31,077 --> 07:17:31,327 beautiful act. 12384 07:17:34,244 --> 07:17:34,494 which is disturbing over 10 12385 07:17:36,211 --> 07:17:36,461 years,7 billion over the 10 12386 07:17:37,944 --> 07:17:38,194 years so we have a couple of 12387 07:17:38,611 --> 07:17:38,861 options 12388 07:17:41,977 --> 07:17:42,227 we could reduce benefits right 12389 07:17:43,977 --> 07:17:44,227 we can reduce the eligible 12390 07:17:46,244 --> 07:17:46,494 population for medicaid and all 12391 07:17:47,777 --> 07:17:48,027 of a sudden change the 12392 07:17:49,511 --> 07:17:49,761 trajectory of all of the work 12393 07:17:50,244 --> 07:17:50,494 that we've done for 20 years in 12394 07:17:52,011 --> 07:17:52,261 order to make sure people are 12395 07:17:55,511 --> 07:17:55,761 eligible and I know for me one 12396 07:17:57,511 --> 07:17:57,761 of the major things that we just 12397 07:17:59,977 --> 07:18:00,227 got on board was July1,2026 was 12398 07:18:00,677 --> 07:18:00,927 to pay for adult dental 12399 07:18:03,777 --> 07:18:04,027 and why that matters and why I 12400 07:18:04,544 --> 07:18:04,794 would never want to pull that 12401 07:18:07,511 --> 07:18:07,761 back is's because grown people 12402 07:18:10,277 --> 07:18:10,527 from age 21 to64 rather than 12403 07:18:11,777 --> 07:18:12,027 being able to afford to pay 12404 07:18:12,644 --> 07:18:12,894 cavities we're getting their 12405 07:18:13,344 --> 07:18:13,594 teeth pulled 12406 07:18:16,011 --> 07:18:16,261 when really it should have been 12407 07:18:17,977 --> 07:18:18,227 the act of getting a cavity 12408 07:18:19,744 --> 07:18:19,994 taken care of and that has been 12409 07:18:21,511 --> 07:18:21,761 a consistent behavior that I've 12410 07:18:23,511 --> 07:18:23,761 been watching since 2023 and 12411 07:18:24,244 --> 07:18:24,494 that would be an expanded 12412 07:18:26,011 --> 07:18:26,261 benefit that came that the state 12413 07:18:26,744 --> 07:18:26,994 is now paying for 12414 07:18:31,744 --> 07:18:31,994 but because the big beautiful 12415 07:18:34,177 --> 07:18:34,427 act has shifted cost onto the 12416 07:18:36,244 --> 07:18:36,494 states in a potential and it's 12417 07:18:39,744 --> 07:18:39,994 not even really potential7 12418 07:18:41,977 --> 07:18:42,227 billion over 10 years we need to 12419 07:18:43,744 --> 07:18:43,994 have a conversation whether or 12420 07:18:45,977 --> 07:18:46,227 not it's small or large on how 12421 07:18:47,511 --> 07:18:47,761 to bring revenue into the state. 12422 07:18:49,744 --> 07:18:49,994 I believe we had13 bargaining 12423 07:18:52,077 --> 07:18:52,327 units that came the end of 2025 12424 07:18:52,744 --> 07:18:52,994 session 12425 07:18:56,244 --> 07:18:56,494 we were not able to fund those 12426 07:18:58,277 --> 07:18:58,527 bargaining units in the state as 12427 07:19:01,744 --> 07:19:01,994 state employees. We were have to 12428 07:19:03,511 --> 07:19:03,761 continue to do oneoffs in the 12429 07:19:05,511 --> 07:19:05,761 state just to fund social 12430 07:19:07,711 --> 07:19:07,961 services we could not continue 12431 07:19:10,011 --> 07:19:10,261 to do behavior as oneshots when 12432 07:19:11,977 --> 07:19:12,227 we know that we need to fund 12433 07:19:13,977 --> 07:19:14,227 activities people and services 12434 07:19:14,644 --> 07:19:14,894 long term. 12435 07:19:17,511 --> 07:19:17,761 we have never successfully 12436 07:19:20,177 --> 07:19:20,427 funded mental health since we 12437 07:19:20,844 --> 07:19:21,094 have been a body 12438 07:19:22,277 --> 07:19:22,527 and so with that 12439 07:19:26,244 --> 07:19:26,494 I am like I take risks every 12440 07:19:28,211 --> 07:19:28,461 single session to bring revenue 12441 07:19:29,977 --> 07:19:30,227 forward and people either hate 12442 07:19:31,744 --> 07:19:31,994 it, love it don't want to do it 12443 07:19:34,244 --> 07:19:34,494 it's fine but my job is to 12444 07:19:35,977 --> 07:19:36,227 always put the revenue forward 12445 07:19:37,711 --> 07:19:37,961 and say there is a possibility 12446 07:19:39,744 --> 07:19:39,994 if you want to fund this issue 12447 07:19:41,511 --> 07:19:41,761 if you want to fund these10 12448 07:19:43,777 --> 07:19:44,027 issues at least have the revenue 12449 07:19:45,744 --> 07:19:45,994 on the table and I've also 12450 07:19:47,811 --> 07:19:48,061 mentioned multiple times to 12451 07:19:49,777 --> 07:19:50,027 folks that you know if there was 12452 07:19:51,544 --> 07:19:51,794 local government revenue that I 12453 07:19:52,211 --> 07:19:52,461 was also focused on 12454 07:19:55,777 --> 07:19:56,027 actual reduction of government 12455 07:19:57,944 --> 07:19:58,194 waste and foolishness that is 12456 07:19:58,644 --> 07:19:58,894 used with taxpayer money 12457 07:20:01,777 --> 07:20:02,027 so I just want to put that on 12458 07:20:03,777 --> 07:20:04,027 the record that I am probably 12459 07:20:04,411 --> 07:20:04,661 one of the most transparent 12460 07:20:08,311 --> 07:20:08,561 people whether or not folks like 12461 07:20:10,277 --> 07:20:10,527 it love it I still do it but I 12462 07:20:12,377 --> 07:20:12,627 tell you how I tell you why and 12463 07:20:13,044 --> 07:20:13,294 I tell you when. 12464 07:20:16,011 --> 07:20:16,261 and so if there's any lobbyists 12465 07:20:18,077 --> 07:20:18,327 that is different he needs to 12466 07:20:18,744 --> 07:20:18,994 come tell me to my face 12467 07:20:20,544 --> 07:20:20,794 and so because it would not be 12468 07:20:21,211 --> 07:20:21,461 true 12469 07:20:24,277 --> 07:20:24,527 so I just want to put that 12470 07:20:26,311 --> 07:20:26,561 out there so I'm sorry that 12471 07:20:28,011 --> 07:20:28,261 you're disenheartened that we 12472 07:20:29,977 --> 07:20:30,227 would put something like this C8 12473 07:20:33,511 --> 07:20:33,761 on on on the record but we're 12474 07:20:34,311 --> 07:20:34,561 running out of time and the only 12475 07:20:36,044 --> 07:20:36,294 thing we have is the cannabis 12476 07:20:38,277 --> 07:20:38,527 study and that might also fall 12477 07:20:40,277 --> 07:20:40,527 into this if the cannabis study 12478 07:20:42,544 --> 07:20:42,794 comes back telling us that we 12479 07:20:44,011 --> 07:20:44,261 need to do something different 12480 07:20:45,677 --> 07:20:45,927 in the cannabis 12481 07:20:49,511 --> 07:20:49,761 regulatory framework around the 12482 07:20:50,211 --> 07:20:50,461 taxes and so 12483 07:20:52,344 --> 07:20:52,594 I'll just stop there 12484 07:20:58,044 --> 07:20:58,294 not the add a com not the 12485 07:20:59,977 --> 07:21:00,227 assemblyman assemblywoman 12486 07:21:02,477 --> 07:21:02,727 anderson thank you and and I I 12487 07:21:03,977 --> 07:21:04,227 appreciate what you just said 12488 07:21:06,011 --> 07:21:06,261 and also I want to bring up how 12489 07:21:08,244 --> 07:21:08,494 important it is also not only 12490 07:21:10,277 --> 07:21:10,527 I I appreciate actually the way 12491 07:21:12,011 --> 07:21:12,261 this is worded at this time 12492 07:21:13,744 --> 07:21:13,994 because there are so many 12493 07:21:15,511 --> 07:21:15,761 different things and I 12494 07:21:15,977 --> 07:21:16,227 understand where somebody's like 12495 07:21:17,511 --> 07:21:17,761 well we should have this time to 12496 07:21:19,711 --> 07:21:19,961 do it but the reality is we 12497 07:21:20,311 --> 07:21:20,561 have120 day session. 12498 07:21:24,044 --> 07:21:24,294 Our role as assembly members is 12499 07:21:25,744 --> 07:21:25,994 to talk with our constituents as 12500 07:21:27,711 --> 07:21:27,961 much as possible and to get that 12501 07:21:29,477 --> 07:21:29,727 information there the role of 12502 07:21:30,511 --> 07:21:30,761 the committee is to hear 12503 07:21:32,311 --> 07:21:32,561 information so that way when we 12504 07:21:35,677 --> 07:21:35,927 are in session we have some more 12505 07:21:36,377 --> 07:21:36,627 background knowledge. 12506 07:21:38,444 --> 07:21:38,694 but the other thing is and this 12507 07:21:40,244 --> 07:21:40,494 is personal for me because my 12508 07:21:43,511 --> 07:21:43,761 school's impacted with it we 12509 07:21:44,377 --> 07:21:44,627 cannot always plan for financial 12510 07:21:45,077 --> 07:21:45,327 emergencies. 12511 07:21:49,544 --> 07:21:49,794 we cannot plan for a fire that 12512 07:21:51,677 --> 07:21:51,927 is decimating my community at 12513 07:21:52,344 --> 07:21:52,594 this time. 12514 07:21:55,744 --> 07:21:55,994 and we need to plan for that 12515 07:21:56,511 --> 07:21:56,761 budget as well and so I 12516 07:21:58,011 --> 07:21:58,261 appreciate this information 12517 07:22:00,144 --> 07:22:00,394 because we cannot always plan 12518 07:22:04,144 --> 07:22:04,394 on emergencies as what was just 12519 07:22:04,777 --> 07:22:05,027 stated by the chair 12520 07:22:08,011 --> 07:22:08,261 there are too many things going 12521 07:22:10,011 --> 07:22:10,261 on we have a broken economic 12522 07:22:11,511 --> 07:22:11,761 system this is a way to start to 12523 07:22:12,211 --> 07:22:12,461 to solve it 12524 07:22:15,744 --> 07:22:15,994 and I I know I will not get a 12525 07:22:17,477 --> 07:22:17,727 chance to say that this at the 12526 07:22:18,211 --> 07:22:18,461 end but I do want to put on the 12527 07:22:20,211 --> 07:22:20,461 record how much I appreciate all 12528 07:22:22,011 --> 07:22:22,261 of our first responders who have 12529 07:22:23,777 --> 07:22:24,027 fought the fires in both 12530 07:22:25,477 --> 07:22:25,727 northern Nevada, southern 12531 07:22:27,511 --> 07:22:27,761 Nevada, as well as those fires 12532 07:22:28,111 --> 07:22:28,361 that are occurring right now in 12533 07:22:30,011 --> 07:22:30,261 other areas of our state so this 12534 07:22:32,011 --> 07:22:32,261 is something that matters to all 12535 07:22:33,711 --> 07:22:33,961 of us and we don't we cannot 12536 07:22:34,277 --> 07:22:34,527 plan for it 12537 07:22:34,744 --> 07:22:34,994 thank you chair 12538 07:22:35,711 --> 07:22:35,961 all right 12539 07:22:42,011 --> 07:22:42,261 OK so we will I will entertain 12540 07:22:44,377 --> 07:22:44,627 emotion on C8. I think I did 12541 07:22:44,944 --> 07:22:45,194 already. 12542 07:22:48,011 --> 07:22:48,261 so I did so all in favor to say 12543 07:22:49,677 --> 07:22:49,927 aye 12544 07:22:53,544 --> 07:22:53,794 so drop two names yes 12545 07:22:56,311 --> 07:22:56,561 so assembly member cole and 12546 07:22:57,844 --> 07:22:58,094 assembly member Patchett nay 12547 07:23:02,244 --> 07:23:02,494 motion carries thank you I 12548 07:23:04,011 --> 07:23:04,261 do want to mention something on 12549 07:23:05,744 --> 07:23:05,994 digital goods for the local 12550 07:23:07,511 --> 07:23:07,761 governments that are listening 12551 07:23:10,411 --> 07:23:10,661 was it 21 or 23 version which 12552 07:23:11,077 --> 07:23:11,327 one 12553 07:23:12,177 --> 07:23:12,427 they had the excise 12554 07:23:15,777 --> 07:23:16,027 so there's going to be the 12555 07:23:18,011 --> 07:23:18,261 excise tax that's in there that 12556 07:23:21,777 --> 07:23:22,027 also goes toce so that's the one 12557 07:23:22,511 --> 07:23:22,761 you should pay attention to it's 12558 07:23:24,011 --> 07:23:24,261 just going to be a wider base 12559 07:23:26,244 --> 07:23:26,494 more I'm trying to add more into 12560 07:23:27,944 --> 07:23:28,194 the base of it 12561 07:23:31,477 --> 07:23:31,727 to see if we capture all the new 12562 07:23:33,544 --> 07:23:33,794 stuff that's going on so thank 12563 07:23:34,277 --> 07:23:34,527 you for everybody that killed it 12564 07:23:36,311 --> 07:23:36,561 for every session from 2019 to 12565 07:23:38,277 --> 07:23:38,527 now because the products 12566 07:23:40,477 --> 07:23:40,727 wouldn't be out there for me to 12567 07:23:41,144 --> 07:23:41,394 say you're in 12568 07:23:42,111 --> 07:23:42,361 I appreciate it 12569 07:23:45,744 --> 07:23:45,994 madam chairir yeah 12570 07:23:48,011 --> 07:23:48,261 ummi Nakamoto with fiscal 12571 07:23:49,777 --> 07:23:50,027 analysis division for the record 12572 07:23:51,511 --> 07:23:51,761 in response to your previous 12573 07:23:54,011 --> 07:23:54,261 question about changes to 12574 07:23:56,211 --> 07:23:56,461 Title41 relating to gaming I did 12575 07:23:59,511 --> 07:23:59,761 get work back from legal 12576 07:24:01,511 --> 07:24:01,761 that they advised that it would 12577 07:24:03,711 --> 07:24:03,961 probably be advisable to do 12578 07:24:06,144 --> 07:24:06,394 that as a separate BDr so if 12579 07:24:07,944 --> 07:24:08,194 that is the will, your will 12580 07:24:11,777 --> 07:24:12,027 we could consider that as C9 12581 07:24:13,911 --> 07:24:14,161 which would be the request of 12582 07:24:14,577 --> 07:24:14,827 a drafting of a bill 12583 07:24:16,011 --> 07:24:16,261 that would provide to various 12584 07:24:19,777 --> 07:24:20,027 changes for the tax the 12585 07:24:21,477 --> 07:24:21,727 taxes or fees or regulation 12586 07:24:24,277 --> 07:24:24,527 under Title41 since I think a 12587 07:24:26,044 --> 07:24:26,294 lot of the discussion today on 12588 07:24:27,744 --> 07:24:27,994 prediction markets may be more 12589 07:24:30,211 --> 07:24:30,461 regulatory in nature but that 12590 07:24:34,011 --> 07:24:34,261 I think would be based on 12591 07:24:36,011 --> 07:24:36,261 your previous comments and 12592 07:24:38,011 --> 07:24:38,261 the direction that that one 12593 07:24:39,511 --> 07:24:39,761 would go 12594 07:24:42,044 --> 07:24:42,294 on so members this may not 12595 07:24:42,711 --> 07:24:42,961 happen but this would be a vote 12596 07:24:49,677 --> 07:24:49,927 to draft potentially draft C9 12597 07:24:50,344 --> 07:24:50,594 so if 12598 07:24:54,244 --> 07:24:54,494 the nevada wins it lawsuit in 12599 07:24:57,511 --> 07:24:57,761 the prediction markets being 12600 07:24:59,977 --> 07:25:00,227 able to tax prediction 12601 07:25:02,011 --> 07:25:02,261 markets bring them under 12602 07:25:05,477 --> 07:25:05,727 uhitle41 which is the gaming 12603 07:25:07,944 --> 07:25:08,194 chapter. that's what C9 would 12604 07:25:10,011 --> 07:25:10,261 do I don't think we should 12605 07:25:11,777 --> 07:25:12,027 leave that revenue on the table 12606 07:25:15,511 --> 07:25:15,761 if it if there is a pathway 12607 07:25:17,844 --> 07:25:18,094 for us to get it I think we 12608 07:25:18,411 --> 07:25:18,661 should definitely do it. 12609 07:25:20,277 --> 07:25:20,527 so that's what that would be 12610 07:25:22,277 --> 07:25:22,527 and so I'm sure that's once 12611 07:25:24,477 --> 07:25:24,727 again controversial but 12612 07:25:28,011 --> 07:25:28,261 it's there are there any 12613 07:25:29,477 --> 07:25:29,727 questions on C9 but that's 12614 07:25:30,111 --> 07:25:30,361 ultimately what it would be 12615 07:25:30,677 --> 07:25:30,927 dealing with. 12616 07:25:34,244 --> 07:25:34,494 so seeing no questions that will 12617 07:25:35,777 --> 07:25:36,027 entertain a motion to draft 12618 07:25:39,977 --> 07:25:40,227 C9itle41 for potential 12619 07:25:43,511 --> 07:25:43,761 prediction market revenue if we 12620 07:25:44,377 --> 07:25:44,627 were to win a lawsuit 12621 07:25:47,977 --> 07:25:48,227 to regulate it all right so I 12622 07:25:49,744 --> 07:25:49,994 have a first from assembly 12623 07:25:51,744 --> 07:25:51,994 assemblywoman anderson second 12624 07:25:57,744 --> 07:25:57,994 Second worship come from here so 12625 07:26:00,077 --> 07:26:00,327 senator Deatete's second any 12626 07:26:00,677 --> 07:26:00,927 discussion on the motion? 12627 07:26:03,744 --> 07:26:03,994 seeing no discussion at all in 12628 07:26:04,411 --> 07:26:04,661 favor say i 12629 07:26:06,044 --> 07:26:06,294 i 12630 07:26:07,944 --> 07:26:08,194 any opposed 12631 07:26:11,944 --> 07:26:12,194 so a ane from assembly member 12632 07:26:15,777 --> 07:26:16,027 poll and assembly member 12633 07:26:17,744 --> 07:26:17,994 Patchett the motion carries 12634 07:26:19,977 --> 07:26:20,227 thank you and now assembly 12635 07:26:20,577 --> 07:26:20,827 member anderson 12636 07:26:22,577 --> 07:26:22,827 you had just a general comment 12637 07:26:27,511 --> 07:26:27,761 OK no that's fine then thank you 12638 07:26:28,244 --> 07:26:28,494 so much for allowing me to sit 12639 07:26:31,511 --> 07:26:31,761 in right for whoever it was so 12640 07:26:32,277 --> 07:26:32,527 we're going to go for we're 12641 07:26:33,511 --> 07:26:33,761 going to open up for public 12642 07:26:35,477 --> 07:26:35,727 comment so we're gender item 12643 07:26:36,477 --> 07:26:36,727 number12 which is opening up for 12644 07:26:38,011 --> 07:26:38,261 public comment. Is there anyone 12645 07:26:38,711 --> 07:26:38,961 here for public comment? 12646 07:26:55,711 --> 07:26:55,961 Go ahead 12647 07:26:59,744 --> 07:26:59,994 good afternoon chairrry members 12648 07:27:00,444 --> 07:27:00,694 of the committee my name is 12649 07:27:01,544 --> 07:27:01,794 Cassie Charles here on behalf of 12650 07:27:02,244 --> 07:27:02,494 the American Federation of State 12651 07:27:05,511 --> 07:27:05,761 County municipal employees also 12652 07:27:06,211 --> 07:27:06,461 known as afsE. I genuinely want 12653 07:27:07,744 --> 07:27:07,994 to thank the work of this 12654 07:27:09,511 --> 07:27:09,761 hardworking committee. I know 12655 07:27:10,244 --> 07:27:10,494 that there is a lot of work to 12656 07:27:12,211 --> 07:27:12,461 do here especially in regards 12657 07:27:13,811 --> 07:27:14,061 to our public services and 12658 07:27:15,777 --> 07:27:16,027 funding our our contracts and I 12659 07:27:16,511 --> 07:27:16,761 greatly appreciate every 12660 07:27:17,811 --> 07:27:18,061 conversation we have in this 12661 07:27:19,744 --> 07:27:19,994 committee and the intentions of 12662 07:27:21,777 --> 07:27:22,027 this committee and exactly all 12663 07:27:22,411 --> 07:27:22,661 of the work that we are doing 12664 07:27:25,544 --> 07:27:25,794 here to support our community 12665 07:27:26,244 --> 07:27:26,494 recently at the 12666 07:27:29,977 --> 07:27:30,227 convention for asks me 12667 07:27:31,977 --> 07:27:32,227 last week the governing body 12668 07:27:33,977 --> 07:27:34,227 representing1.4 million Asme 12669 07:27:35,744 --> 07:27:35,994 workers recently ratified a 12670 07:27:36,544 --> 07:27:36,794 resolution prioritizing 12671 07:27:41,477 --> 07:27:41,727 prioritizing families over 12672 07:27:42,244 --> 07:27:42,494 corporations and I do believe 12673 07:27:43,744 --> 07:27:43,994 that that is what this good 12674 07:27:44,477 --> 07:27:44,727 committee that this good 12675 07:27:45,911 --> 07:27:46,161 committee is doing. thank you so 12676 07:27:46,611 --> 07:27:46,861 much for your work. 12677 07:27:53,711 --> 07:27:53,961 Good evening chair and 12678 07:27:54,177 --> 07:27:54,427 committee. my name is 12679 07:27:55,677 --> 07:27:55,927 Sabrinaettrell. I am here today 12680 07:27:56,411 --> 07:27:56,661 on behalf of the Nevada Primary 12681 07:27:57,977 --> 07:27:58,227 Care association the association 12682 07:27:58,711 --> 07:27:58,961 represents the state's 12683 07:27:59,744 --> 07:27:59,994 federallyqualified health 12684 07:28:01,944 --> 07:28:02,194 centers or FQHCs our members 12685 07:28:04,244 --> 07:28:04,494 cared for nearly136,000 divans 12686 07:28:05,744 --> 07:28:05,994 last year including more 12687 07:28:07,744 --> 07:28:07,994 than38,000 uninsured patients 12688 07:28:08,577 --> 07:28:08,827 and almost48,000 who are covered 12689 07:28:09,244 --> 07:28:09,494 by medicaid 12690 07:28:11,744 --> 07:28:11,994 Nevada's FQHCs are bracing for 12691 07:28:12,444 --> 07:28:12,694 an increase in the number of 12692 07:28:14,244 --> 07:28:14,494 uninsured patients due to work 12693 07:28:15,977 --> 07:28:16,227 requirements imposed by HR one 12694 07:28:19,711 --> 07:28:19,961 are cost per patient was1948 12695 07:28:21,944 --> 07:28:22,194 dollars in 2025. we 12696 07:28:23,711 --> 07:28:23,961 collected1765 for medicaid 12697 07:28:26,211 --> 07:28:26,461 patient and only $216 per 12698 07:28:27,977 --> 07:28:28,227 uninsured patient that's a 12699 07:28:29,944 --> 07:28:30,194 deficit of about1,700 dollars 12700 07:28:30,611 --> 07:28:30,861 for every patient who becomes 12701 07:28:31,311 --> 07:28:31,561 uninsured. 12702 07:28:33,777 --> 07:28:34,027 One way the legislature could 12703 07:28:34,444 --> 07:28:34,694 support the expected burden on 12704 07:28:36,277 --> 07:28:36,527 FQHCs is to exempt them from 12705 07:28:39,477 --> 07:28:39,727 property tax. At least5 states 12706 07:28:40,177 --> 07:28:40,427 currently have this exemption. 12707 07:28:41,744 --> 07:28:41,994 Nevada already exempts as Mister 12708 07:28:43,477 --> 07:28:43,727 Nakamoto went through charitable 12709 07:28:44,211 --> 07:28:44,461 foundations, property leased 12710 07:28:47,511 --> 07:28:47,761 tonshi fraternity sororities 12711 07:28:48,377 --> 07:28:48,627 special nonprofits and volunteer 12712 07:28:49,044 --> 07:28:49,294 fire departments 12713 07:28:51,944 --> 07:28:52,194 if this exemption were available 12714 07:28:53,977 --> 07:28:54,227 for FQHC own properties as well 12715 07:28:55,511 --> 07:28:55,761 as leased properties this would 12716 07:28:57,744 --> 07:28:57,994 save about723,000 dollars 12717 07:28:59,477 --> 07:28:59,727 statewide that could be directly 12718 07:29:00,177 --> 07:29:00,427 put into patient care. this 12719 07:29:02,211 --> 07:29:02,461 would allow the fQHCs to serve 12720 07:29:04,211 --> 07:29:04,461 by our estimate about375 12721 07:29:04,711 --> 07:29:04,961 additional uninsured patients 12722 07:29:08,011 --> 07:29:08,261 so thank you madam chairir for 12723 07:29:09,744 --> 07:29:09,994 bringing up HR one it's on top 12724 07:29:11,744 --> 07:29:11,994 of our mind and NVPCA really 12725 07:29:12,411 --> 07:29:12,661 looks forward to connecting to 12726 07:29:13,077 --> 07:29:13,327 discuss that impact further. 12727 07:29:17,977 --> 07:29:18,227 Thank you Chairneal and members 12728 07:29:19,477 --> 07:29:19,727 of the committee for your 12729 07:29:20,477 --> 07:29:20,727 commitment today to modernizing 12730 07:29:21,977 --> 07:29:22,227 a tax base that can provide 12731 07:29:23,777 --> 07:29:24,027 first class services from 12732 07:29:26,277 --> 07:29:26,527 firefighters educators and other 12733 07:29:28,277 --> 07:29:28,527 Nevaddans who live and die by 12734 07:29:29,744 --> 07:29:29,994 the choices that are state 12735 07:29:32,011 --> 07:29:32,261 budget makes we look forward to 12736 07:29:32,744 --> 07:29:32,994 supporting you and your efforts 12737 07:29:34,277 --> 07:29:34,527 to modernize the tax base and I 12738 07:29:35,777 --> 07:29:36,027 trust Andrewclark 12739 07:29:36,444 --> 07:29:36,694 Battleborngress for the record 12740 07:29:37,111 --> 07:29:37,361 thank you. 12741 07:29:40,577 --> 07:29:40,827 it's 12742 07:29:41,744 --> 07:29:41,994 it's 12743 07:29:43,944 --> 07:29:44,194 public comment up north high 12744 07:29:45,877 --> 07:29:46,127 go ahead 12745 07:29:49,744 --> 07:29:49,994 thank you chair Neel and 12746 07:29:50,344 --> 07:29:50,594 vicechair backcus lay 12747 07:29:51,877 --> 07:29:52,127 Mitchellory County 12748 07:29:52,344 --> 07:29:52,594 commissioner 12749 07:29:54,211 --> 07:29:54,461 appreciate the conversation 12750 07:29:56,211 --> 07:29:56,461 around around data centers and 12751 07:29:58,277 --> 07:29:58,527 as far as water goes I've 12752 07:30:00,211 --> 07:30:00,461 expressed my concerns to DrI 12753 07:30:02,011 --> 07:30:02,261 directly about the methodology 12754 07:30:03,977 --> 07:30:04,227 one of my assignments is a 12755 07:30:05,511 --> 07:30:05,761 trustee for the public utility 12756 07:30:06,144 --> 07:30:06,394 that provides water and 12757 07:30:08,244 --> 07:30:08,494 wastewater services to many of 12758 07:30:10,011 --> 07:30:10,261 these facilities and we have an 12759 07:30:12,011 --> 07:30:12,261 open offer repeated several 12760 07:30:13,777 --> 07:30:14,027 times over the last year to meet 12761 07:30:16,011 --> 07:30:16,261 with to allow their researchers 12762 07:30:17,511 --> 07:30:17,761 to meet with our technical staff 12763 07:30:18,277 --> 07:30:18,527 to acquire more accurate and 12764 07:30:20,277 --> 07:30:20,527 localized data on actual water 12765 07:30:21,844 --> 07:30:22,094 usage and we're we're looking 12766 07:30:24,011 --> 07:30:24,261 forward to engaging further on 12767 07:30:26,077 --> 07:30:26,327 that to make sure that it truly 12768 07:30:27,777 --> 07:30:28,027 reflects what's happening on the 12769 07:30:29,744 --> 07:30:29,994 ground overall Story County 12770 07:30:31,711 --> 07:30:31,961 favors a modernization approach 12771 07:30:33,711 --> 07:30:33,961 to abatements more similar to 12772 07:30:34,311 --> 07:30:34,561 the approach outlined by 12773 07:30:36,077 --> 07:30:36,327 assembly member Cole which is 12774 07:30:37,777 --> 07:30:38,027 why we are introducing a bill to 12775 07:30:38,477 --> 07:30:38,727 do exactly that as a local 12776 07:30:40,211 --> 07:30:40,461 jurisdiction that really 12777 07:30:42,011 --> 07:30:42,261 supports the largest number of 12778 07:30:44,011 --> 07:30:44,261 abatements in the state. I spent 12779 07:30:45,511 --> 07:30:45,761 some time yesterday with some 12780 07:30:46,511 --> 07:30:46,761 reps from our IW local and I 12781 07:30:47,777 --> 07:30:48,027 just want to summarize a few of 12782 07:30:49,511 --> 07:30:49,761 the things that they shared in 12783 07:30:51,877 --> 07:30:52,127 relation to the impact of data 12784 07:30:52,477 --> 07:30:52,727 center construction 12785 07:30:54,011 --> 07:30:54,261 according to our building 12786 07:30:55,744 --> 07:30:55,994 struction Trades co up here they 12787 07:30:57,977 --> 07:30:58,227 estimate8 to10,000 union trade 12788 07:30:59,477 --> 07:30:59,727 workers daily are working in 12789 07:31:00,511 --> 07:31:00,761 thetajarino inndustrial Center 12790 07:31:02,044 --> 07:31:02,294 as evidenced by the horrible 12791 07:31:02,677 --> 07:31:02,927 traffic and 12792 07:31:06,044 --> 07:31:06,294 most of those are working on 12793 07:31:06,611 --> 07:31:06,861 data center projects 12794 07:31:07,111 --> 07:31:07,361 specifically 12795 07:31:10,211 --> 07:31:10,461 4000 electricians union 12796 07:31:12,211 --> 07:31:12,461 electricians are working in the 12797 07:31:14,211 --> 07:31:14,461 region and80% of those are 12798 07:31:14,844 --> 07:31:15,094 working on data center projects 12799 07:31:19,477 --> 07:31:19,727 the typical pay with substantial 12800 07:31:21,744 --> 07:31:21,994 overtime that is that is 12801 07:31:23,511 --> 07:31:23,761 normal for a data center project 12802 07:31:24,311 --> 07:31:24,561 at the journey level is coming 12803 07:31:27,511 --> 07:31:27,761 in about170,000 dollars a year 12804 07:31:28,277 --> 07:31:28,527 plus benefits plummbers and 12805 07:31:29,977 --> 07:31:30,227 pipeitters are coming in at 12806 07:31:32,044 --> 07:31:32,294 almost180,000 dollars according 12807 07:31:32,711 --> 07:31:32,961 to their estimates 12808 07:31:34,444 --> 07:31:34,694 we have about1,000 12809 07:31:35,744 --> 07:31:35,994 electricians from southern 12810 07:31:36,577 --> 07:31:36,827 Nevada currently working on 12811 07:31:37,111 --> 07:31:37,361 projects up here 12812 07:31:39,977 --> 07:31:40,227 now the apprenticeship program 12813 07:31:41,744 --> 07:31:41,994 normally runs about150 12814 07:31:43,477 --> 07:31:43,727 apprentices they're currently 12815 07:31:45,511 --> 07:31:45,761 above500 and they said they're 12816 07:31:47,744 --> 07:31:47,994 on their way to1200 and they 12817 07:31:49,511 --> 07:31:49,761 only take on those apprentices 12818 07:31:50,477 --> 07:31:50,727 if they see the the path for 12819 07:31:51,777 --> 07:31:52,027 them to complete that 12820 07:31:53,544 --> 07:31:53,794 apprenticeship and that's what 12821 07:31:54,144 --> 07:31:54,394 they're seeing with this 12822 07:31:55,777 --> 07:31:56,027 development. one of the things 12823 07:31:57,511 --> 07:31:57,761 that's really unique about these 12824 07:31:58,144 --> 07:31:58,394 developments is they're long 12825 07:31:59,744 --> 07:31:59,994 duration each building may only 12826 07:32:02,011 --> 07:32:02,261 take18 to 24 months to build but 12827 07:32:03,744 --> 07:32:03,994 a campus built out typically 12828 07:32:05,511 --> 07:32:05,761 lasts7 to10 years some in some 12829 07:32:07,677 --> 07:32:07,927 cases 20 years and that provides 12830 07:32:08,344 --> 07:32:08,594 a unique opportunity for the 12831 07:32:10,011 --> 07:32:10,261 construction trades it gives 12832 07:32:12,244 --> 07:32:12,494 them stability and longevity it 12833 07:32:13,977 --> 07:32:14,227 allows them to really settle 12834 07:32:15,977 --> 07:32:16,227 into the communities which is 12835 07:32:19,477 --> 07:32:19,727 pretty unique for for the 12836 07:32:20,211 --> 07:32:20,461 construction industry and the 12837 07:32:21,511 --> 07:32:21,761 last thing that we would want to 12838 07:32:22,277 --> 07:32:22,527 see is this prosperity grind to 12839 07:32:24,011 --> 07:32:24,261 a halt. There was some 12840 07:32:25,777 --> 07:32:26,027 discussion of revenue at the end 12841 07:32:27,477 --> 07:32:27,727 the latest groundbreaking that 12842 07:32:28,244 --> 07:32:28,494 we had announced that they were 12843 07:32:30,011 --> 07:32:30,261 spending10 billion dollars to 12844 07:32:31,477 --> 07:32:31,727 build the two buildings that 12845 07:32:32,277 --> 07:32:32,527 they they were breaking ground 12846 07:32:33,777 --> 07:32:34,027 on that would take 1000 12847 07:32:35,744 --> 07:32:35,994 construction jobs and 230 12848 07:32:37,677 --> 07:32:37,927 permanent jobs averaging six 12849 07:32:38,244 --> 07:32:38,494 figures in 12850 07:32:38,844 --> 07:32:39,094 compensation 12851 07:32:41,477 --> 07:32:41,727 the tenants were then going 12852 07:32:43,477 --> 07:32:43,727 to bring in30 billion dollars 12853 07:32:45,711 --> 07:32:45,961 worth of equipment that alone 12854 07:32:47,977 --> 07:32:48,227 even with abatements in place 12855 07:32:49,477 --> 07:32:49,727 accounts for hundreds of 12856 07:32:50,211 --> 07:32:50,461 millions in sales tax to the 12857 07:32:51,644 --> 07:32:51,894 general fund and so 12858 07:32:54,244 --> 07:32:54,494 that's just one of the projects 12859 07:32:56,211 --> 07:32:56,461 a large one to be sure of 12860 07:32:58,244 --> 07:32:58,494 probably half dozen that we have 12861 07:33:00,011 --> 07:33:00,261 happening in our countyway we 12862 07:33:01,744 --> 07:33:01,994 look forward to engaging to find 12863 07:33:03,511 --> 07:33:03,761 the right path forward to make 12864 07:33:04,111 --> 07:33:04,361 sure that our citizens are 12865 07:33:06,277 --> 07:33:06,527 protected but that this kind 12866 07:33:08,344 --> 07:33:08,594 of prosperity for our workers 12867 07:33:09,011 --> 07:33:09,261 does not end thank you 12868 07:33:15,477 --> 07:33:15,727 Hello Will adler for the record 12869 07:33:16,144 --> 07:33:16,394 with silver state government 12870 07:33:17,944 --> 07:33:18,194 relations I mostly wanted to 12871 07:33:19,977 --> 07:33:20,227 ditto assembly one aththa 12872 07:33:21,744 --> 07:33:21,994 Anderson up there, but 12873 07:33:23,511 --> 07:33:23,761 overall I've watched this 12874 07:33:24,077 --> 07:33:24,327 committee throughout the year 12875 07:33:25,977 --> 07:33:26,227 and I do agree that the 12876 07:33:27,711 --> 07:33:27,961 knowledge shared and sort of the 12877 07:33:29,744 --> 07:33:29,994 depth and the breadth of of of 12878 07:33:31,511 --> 07:33:31,761 revenue policy is not known 12879 07:33:33,544 --> 07:33:33,794 enough in in the legislature or 12880 07:33:35,711 --> 07:33:35,961 innevada as a whole so I just 12881 07:33:36,311 --> 07:33:36,561 want to say thank you for the 12882 07:33:37,744 --> 07:33:37,994 discussions today and and how 12883 07:33:39,511 --> 07:33:39,761 deep you guys went and I look 12884 07:33:40,077 --> 07:33:40,327 forward to these discussions 12885 07:33:42,077 --> 07:33:42,327 continuing in in the 2027 12886 07:33:42,644 --> 07:33:42,894 legislature and 12887 07:33:45,511 --> 07:33:45,761 again thank you to all our first 12888 07:33:46,211 --> 07:33:46,461 responders and those who are 12889 07:33:47,477 --> 07:33:47,727 doing their work up in 12890 07:33:48,444 --> 07:33:48,694 northernnevada thank you guys 12891 07:33:49,677 --> 07:33:49,927 for the committee have a good 12892 07:33:50,377 --> 07:33:50,627 one. 12893 07:33:52,477 --> 07:33:52,727 thank you 12894 07:33:53,911 --> 07:33:54,161 so 12895 07:33:58,177 --> 07:33:58,427 broadcast anyone on the 12896 07:33:58,744 --> 07:33:58,994 phone line? 12897 07:34:02,444 --> 07:34:02,694 care the public line is open and 12898 07:34:03,911 --> 07:34:04,161 working we have no cos at this 12899 07:34:04,577 --> 07:34:04,827 time 12900 07:34:09,944 --> 07:34:10,194 you for that right so members 12901 07:34:10,577 --> 07:34:10,827 I'm sure you're grateful for 12902 07:34:13,711 --> 07:34:13,961 this we are adjourning for the 12903 07:34:15,877 --> 07:34:16,127 day have safe travels home.