[0:04] morning at
[0:06] a
[0:08] welcome we are going to start
[0:10] the Indian affairs committeetee
[0:13] as a subcommittee as we wait
[0:15] for quorum and we'll start with
[0:18] introductions. Right now the the
[0:19] agenda for today we are here
[0:20] today in the Gallup McKinley
[0:22] County Chamber ofcomrace due to
[0:25] go to Skycity ultural Center
[0:27] tomorrow and on Wednesday to the
[0:30] pueblo of Laguna so we're we're
[0:32] moving through here so we have a
[0:33] threeday meeting this week
[0:38] and we are going to do
[0:40] introductions and we do believe
[0:41] our first presenter is here
[0:44] byhazla chapter and then the
[0:47] city and lunch will be on your
[0:49] own so far they'll be food there
[0:50] there will be food I don't know
[0:51] what
[0:53] but there will be food now
[0:54] that's what I'm told
[0:57] oh thank you thank you
[0:59] representative and we were
[1:01] supposed to be in twin Lakes
[1:03] chapter but due to some of the
[1:05] outcome and stuff of the weather
[1:08] mother nature has brought us
[1:10] over here but I hope everybody
[1:11] had safe travels here and great
[1:14] accommodations and we will
[1:16] move forward so we will move
[1:19] forward with introductions first
[1:20] we will start with our those in
[1:20] the audience
[1:22] from
[1:26] this side to that side and
[1:29] then we'll go for it yes yeah no
[1:30] please use the mic up here we'll
[1:32] just push that button you can
[1:33] just leave it on too because we
[1:35] are webcasting so we try to have
[1:36] one mic at a time Hello good
[1:36] morning.
[1:40] good morning madam chair members
[1:41] of the committee, staff. my
[1:43] name is Bill Lee representing
[1:47] KJg strategies lobbying for a
[1:49] number of clients throughout New
[1:50] Mexico thank you madam chair
[2:01] good morning eachach and all of
[2:03] you my name is Eloise
[2:05] Johnson. I'm the chapter
[2:07] president of Twin Lakes
[2:09] chapter and I'm sorry we did not
[2:11] accommodate all of you but
[2:14] there was reasons and like
[2:16] they said Mo Nature but I'm glad
[2:17] to be here and welcome to each
[2:18] and all of you
[2:22] good morning madam chairir and
[2:23] committee. my name is hoda
[2:25] Edekai. I am with neighborigh
[2:26] I'm the indigenousnery
[2:27] organizer.
[2:31] good morning madam chairir.
[2:32] committeetee deborah Martinez
[2:32] city ofgallup.
[2:36] rose tom
[2:43] Good morning honorable
[2:45] legislatures my name is Joan
[2:47] Nance. I'm the vice president
[2:48] for Basla Twin Lakes chapter.
[2:49] thank you
[2:56] good morning welcome to gallup
[2:59] all of you doritzinnali Tohachi
[3:00] thank you
[3:03] Good morning
[3:06] Thompson Johnson from Twin
[3:06] Lakes
[3:21] that good we have we're gonna
[3:23] start over here withpresentative
[3:24] Block and we'll go around the
[3:25] way. Thank youpresentative. Oh,
[3:27] you want to start?
[3:28] Ohpresentative
[3:28] Le here
[3:33] good morning madam chairir umm
[3:35] anita Mejia from Chavez
[3:36] Countylad to be here
[3:40] good morning madam Chair John
[3:41] Block, Statepresentative House
[3:42] disstrict51 Otero County. I
[3:43] represent Allamogordo. thank you
[3:44] for having us.
[3:48] Madam Chair members Rex Wilson
[3:51] Senate District33 Chaviz
[3:53] Lincoln and Ontero counties it's
[3:55] good to be back in this part of
[3:56] the world. Thank you.
[4:00] good morning madam chair and
[4:01] good morning everyone. I'm
[4:03] Representative Patty Lundstrom
[4:06] and let me let me welcome you
[4:09] to House disstrict 9, this area
[4:11] is in my house district and I
[4:13] want to particularly welcome the
[4:15] folks from Twin Lakes. I used to
[4:16] represent you guys for about 20
[4:17] years
[4:20] and glad that you're here and
[4:22] glad that Bill's here also and
[4:24] look forward to a very good
[4:25] meeting today. thank you madam
[4:26] chairir.
[4:33] it's a bennett good morning
[4:34] madam chair and committee
[4:37] members and our staff. My name
[4:38] is Representative Micchelee
[4:40] Paulinabbeda. I'm coming to you
[4:42] from Trojele and I represent
[4:44] House disstrict 69 which covers
[4:44] six counties yeah
[4:51] yet a benne shea martha garcia
[4:54] yinia I represent a district
[4:56] 6 which coversieable County and
[4:57] McKinley County
[5:02] a represent ine chapters zunni
[5:05] grantsluewater Milan area and
[5:06] everything in between so that's
[5:10] where I MBR representative and
[5:11] welcome to everyone madam Chair,
[5:12] thank you
[5:16] Good morning madam chair members
[5:17] of the committee, those in the
[5:19] audience and those viewing my
[5:20] name is Patricia
[5:21] roybalcaballero. I represent
[5:24] house district thir which is the
[5:25] far southwest quadrant of
[5:26] Albuquerque and I'm happy to be
[5:30] here on this committee since my
[5:31] first term. thank you very much
[5:32] madam chairir.
[5:37] morning everyone I'm here to
[5:38] introduce staff. I'm Niccole
[5:40] Waisback from the Legislative
[5:42] coerce. We also have David here
[5:43] running our IT and we have
[5:45] Sheila and Paul assisting as
[5:46] well. thanks.
[5:52] thank you madam chair and good
[5:55] morning colleagues and staff and
[5:57] guests welcome to gallup
[6:01] I'm so glad that we're able
[6:03] to have this meeting here. I
[6:05] represent House disstrictive
[6:08] which entails East Gallup and1f
[6:11] Navajo chapters and now Twin
[6:12] Lakes is one of my chapters so
[6:17] Coming here and I was the one
[6:18] who recommended Twin Lakes
[6:20] chapter and we'll just do it
[6:20] again next time.
[6:24] so with that I just want to say
[6:24] good morning and thank you
[6:28] thank you madam vice chair and
[6:29] thank you for joining us and
[6:30] thank you to the chamber of
[6:33] commerce for accommodating us at
[6:34] the last minute and I think this
[6:36] room has changed the last time I
[6:37] was here
[6:39] we'd me here with the code
[6:42] talkers with the meeting so it
[6:45] is different but many things
[6:46] have happened this week within
[6:49] the area and I hope that is all
[6:51] in some way alleviated but I do
[6:52] believe we will see Mother
[6:54] Nature again in a couple more
[6:55] days to give us some
[6:58] some much needed moisture in
[6:58] some sense.
[6:59] but
[7:02] Shannon Pinilion and she had
[7:04] Keanni Nishchelakisluchini
[7:06] bush's china detechi nida
[7:06] chanella
[7:08] the I mean that's cha
[7:11] Filippino dechaele and I know
[7:14] some of my members here
[7:17] within the audience in which as
[7:19] well with your children we all
[7:21] grew up together so it's very
[7:23] good to to be back here and
[7:25] which we were out at twin Lakes
[7:27] but would you like to come
[7:29] forward? We do have item ones
[7:31] welcome an update from Bajala
[7:33] chapter and then we will go to
[7:35] the update from the city of
[7:36] Gallup and the future of
[7:36] community economic
[7:42] sovereignty so the light will
[7:44] turn green may have a seat and I
[7:44] don't know if anybody else is
[7:47] going to join you up here.
[7:48] actually let's take a moment
[7:52] here ma'am would you like to
[7:56] welcome us to let's give a
[7:56] minute here to our mayor of
[7:57] Gallup
[8:00] yes come on up and take a
[8:02] minute here with the microphone
[8:05] so we can and then we'll
[8:06] begin our first presentation
[8:06] here but
[8:08] but good morning
[8:11] the the thing to turn on
[8:13] thank you
[8:16] thanks for coming to Gallup.
[8:17] you're always welcome
[8:19] you know first I want to express
[8:22] my condolences for the family in
[8:24] newcomb you know with three
[8:26] people killed in a flash flood
[8:27] you know the floods are real and
[8:28] we're telling everybody be
[8:30] careful and unfortunately for
[8:32] ourR it's not the first time you
[8:34] know we've had a lot of people
[8:36] get swept away by floods
[8:38] there are nondiscriminatory
[8:40] don't enter the royals so we're
[8:40] trying to get that message
[8:41] across
[8:43] but anyway you know thanks
[8:44] for coming toallup are always
[8:46] good to have you it's always
[8:48] good to have you you know our
[8:50] we're working with what's that
[8:53] oh my name is Marc Dipali mayor
[8:54] of Gallup sorry about that
[8:58] I you know what our city
[8:59] manager's are going to be here
[9:00] in a little bit. He's gonna kind
[9:02] of express some of the things
[9:04] we're working on trying to get
[9:05] ahead of with thenavo nation
[9:10] you know we have a a population
[9:13] in Gallllup that is showing up
[9:15] here that we don't know if
[9:17] it's coming in from other from
[9:19] treatment centers or how they're
[9:20] how the people are showing up
[9:21] and they're not just nes
[9:23] necessarily native but we
[9:24] want to work with the Navo
[9:27] nation we we had incidents some
[9:28] incidents happen where people
[9:29] have been dropped off inallup
[9:32] and we've talked to him and
[9:35] mostly young girls and we hear
[9:36] what we hear is that
[9:39] they're their friend dropped
[9:41] them off and left him you know
[9:43] and it's very concerning you
[9:44] know trafficking is our biggest
[9:46] thing. one of my biggest things
[9:48] to continue and can continue to
[9:49] address you know and we need to
[9:51] make sure that we keep don't let
[9:54] it out out of our view and keep
[9:55] pushing the trafficking and
[9:57] making sure that we provide a
[9:58] safe place for people to go we
[10:00] want to we want to try to make
[10:02] something safe where if somebody
[10:04] is here maybe against their will
[10:05] or some got dropped off you know
[10:08] and as soon as you hear dropped
[10:11] off that's that's scary you know
[10:14] and we wanted that's one
[10:15] of the things we're working on
[10:16] is try to get him a safe get
[10:17] people a safe place where they
[10:18] know they're safe and they can
[10:21] go. having worked in Mexico30
[10:22] years ago I kind of have a
[10:24] little bit of experience with
[10:26] what what happens with when you
[10:27] have people who are trafficked
[10:29] and some of the people aren't
[10:30] necessarily native they are
[10:31] they're people from all over the
[10:32] place that come in they come
[10:33] throughallup.
[10:36] Anyway with that I did you know
[10:37] I don't want to be a bummer or a
[10:38] downer but I wanna to make let
[10:39] everybody know that we are
[10:41] working with our missing
[10:43] murdered indigenous and
[10:44] throughout the state with the
[10:45] other law enforcement to make
[10:46] sure that we can move ahead with
[10:47] this
[10:49] of course we'll work with
[10:50] working close with the tribe too
[10:54] anyway with that you know we
[10:55] have we have big plans for
[10:58] Gallup you know we we're working
[11:00] on some economic development
[11:02] with Patty Lindstrom you know
[11:04] and of course my niece
[11:06] Micchelle she's here. Pauline
[11:09] you know and you know
[11:11] working on some big projects
[11:13] we want to make sure thatallup
[11:16] has a place for our youth to go
[11:17] you know one of the things
[11:19] that's happening and I have
[11:20] friends you know I grew up in
[11:21] Gallup of course native
[11:23] friends and my friendRay
[11:24] Livingston he's a Livingston
[11:25] from Church rock
[11:29] and you know all of his kids
[11:31] and even him they all leave you
[11:32] know he comes back on the
[11:34] weekends for to work you know
[11:35] and and you know it's time we
[11:37] start providing opportunities
[11:39] and jobs here in Gallup for the
[11:41] local people you know so raises
[11:44] raise four kids one one's one's
[11:46] a nurse one works as an
[11:48] electrician another one's a
[11:49] mechanic or HBAc and the other
[11:51] one and the other girl I forget
[11:53] what she does but they're all
[11:54] they're either in New orleans
[11:55] they're work of course
[11:58] in the state working on other
[11:59] projects but we need to make
[12:00] sure we provide those
[12:01] opportunities here and we're
[12:03] working with of course with the
[12:06] the the uhnavajo nation or is is
[12:08] always our partner making
[12:10] sure that we have them on our
[12:12] side to provide these positions
[12:13] but then of course the next big
[12:16] step is the education we want to
[12:17] make sure that you and him and
[12:19] to you are available or well
[12:21] aware of what we're doing so
[12:22] that we can work with them
[12:23] hand in hand
[12:26] I recently got to go to
[12:29] barcelona Spain you know and
[12:30] I'm over there in Barcelona and
[12:32] people come up to me and start
[12:33] speaking French. they think I'm
[12:35] French. well no, I'm not French
[12:38] I'm Italian but anyway you
[12:39] know what what's interesting the
[12:41] idiotta that we went and visited
[12:43] is a test lab you know and I I'd
[12:44] been to jet propulsion
[12:45] laborboratory in California.
[12:46] a lot of similarities
[12:51] you know but they all work
[12:52] all these testing labs these
[12:54] high tech facilities work hand
[12:56] in hand with their universities
[12:58] to be able to fill the positions
[13:00] that they that they they know
[13:02] they're gonna need and they and
[13:02] they fill these positions so
[13:04] that they can provide an experts
[13:07] the the the high quality
[13:10] testing lab and testing facility
[13:13] so you know education of course
[13:15] then the court the next thing is
[13:16] recreation you know we want to
[13:17] we the gallup is we're looking
[13:20] at doing a pretty big expansion
[13:21] to our recreation. you know I
[13:22] hear when I go to the municipal
[13:23] league I hear from people that
[13:25] gallup has some of the best
[13:27] recreational facilities and we
[13:29] do you know and not only that we
[13:31] have cool weather so in the
[13:32] summertime it's nice to come to
[13:34] Gallup but of course you know as
[13:36] as Senator Pinto knows you know
[13:38] basketball is dear to gallup and
[13:40] so is you know the soccer is
[13:41] becoming one of the other things
[13:43] volleyball you know football
[13:45] and all the different sports but
[13:46] we have the opportunity here
[13:47] every weekend
[13:50] our our sports fields are filled
[13:52] because people come as far as
[13:53] Phoenix Yuma, Texas to go to
[13:55] play here inallup and we want to
[13:58] continue that the then
[14:00] another thing of course is
[14:02] housing you know one of the
[14:03] one of the deals that or one of
[14:04] the things that we will work on
[14:07] housing right now is incredibly
[14:10] expensive my family's been
[14:11] building houses in here probably
[14:13] for h00 years. you know my aro
[14:15] Caania was was my grandfather he
[14:17] was a stonemason he learned the
[14:20] stonemasonry from the Spanish so
[14:21] one of the reasons when I went
[14:22] back to Barcelona I wanted to
[14:24] see exactly what why
[14:25] everything's so common wall and
[14:26] sure enough you know I could see
[14:28] that see the resemblance between
[14:30] downtown Gallup and some of the
[14:33] buildings were in Barcelona but
[14:34] you know he he learned the
[14:34] stonemason trade from the S
[14:37] pan ish and at one time he had75
[14:39] stonemasons working for him. He
[14:41] built the church in Hau. he
[14:43] built the church in Tohatchie
[14:45] he built churches all over the
[14:47] diocese of gallup. we had75
[14:48] stonemasons and then most of
[14:50] them are either zuni or Navajo
[14:53] the Tracy's Keaazzzie all my
[14:54] all my friends that grew up with
[14:57] but housing is dear is
[14:58] something we really need to look
[14:58] into
[15:01] you know it's it's a hard it's
[15:02] hard to
[15:06] it's hard to proceed with
[15:09] housing when a simple1300 square
[15:13] foot houses almost $250,000 you
[15:14] know, I I don't know what how
[15:16] we're ever going to catch up but
[15:17] you know there are going to be
[15:18] you know it's one of the things
[15:20] we have to do is maybe there
[15:21] might be some federal federal or
[15:23] state assistance to do that but
[15:24] that's the next thing so
[15:27] recreation education housing and
[15:28] jobs
[15:31] and with that if there's any
[15:32] questions I'll be glad to answer
[15:33] them.
[15:34] or discuss things
[15:36] but
[15:39] they got I have some people that
[15:41] I'd like to talk to you with
[15:43] that I met last week or toward
[15:45] their facilities and all kinds
[15:46] of stuff with behavioral health
[15:48] soha yes it's gonna be very
[15:50] interesting very excited about
[15:52] it but thank you thank you mayor
[15:54] right well thanks for coming to
[15:55] Gallup and our city manager will
[15:56] be here later I don't know if
[15:57] you if you wanted to talk to him
[15:58] or if he has some things to say
[15:58] to you he'll be glad to.
[16:01] Did I make did I come late? Wa I
[16:02] supposed to be here at10
[16:02] or10:30?
[16:07] Oh good right on right on time
[16:10] then with that thank you I was
[16:11] just giving the opportunity to
[16:13] welcome thank you we'll talk
[16:15] we'll ask questions later and
[16:16] have a more deeper discussion
[16:18] that was more than a welcome
[16:20] that was a welcome in the whole
[16:21] summary that's what we're doing
[16:24] thank you ma'am and thank you
[16:25] and you may proceed to it
[16:29] good morning again everyone
[16:33] like I said my name is Eloise
[16:34] Johnson. I'm the chapter
[16:37] president of Twin Lakes chapter
[16:39] and I said welcome to
[16:41] everybody earlier but I want to
[16:44] welcome honorable leaders
[16:47] of New Mexico legislatures thank
[16:49] you for thinking of us and
[16:51] trying to have us host this
[16:52] meeting however
[16:56] you know due to unforeseen
[16:58] circumstances we have to you
[17:00] know we were without water there
[17:02] for a while we were without
[17:04] internet and electric and we had
[17:06] a lot of stranded relatives
[17:08] that we needed to house at the
[17:11] chapter anyway so we've been
[17:15] on emergency call 24/7 for
[17:17] our chapter to accommodate you
[17:19] know people that are stranded
[17:21] which very few but Mexican
[17:22] springs had most of them I
[17:22] think.
[17:23] the chapter there
[17:27] but anyhow so due to that we
[17:29] couldn't host you know this
[17:32] meeting but however you know
[17:34] down the road we like to still
[17:36] accommodate we had bought
[17:39] turkeys we have bought food and
[17:41] we were ready for this and all
[17:43] of a sudden you know things
[17:45] happen so now we have to hold
[17:46] the turkeys for the holidays
[17:50] but anyway thank you for each
[17:52] and all of you for being here
[17:52] and recognizing our chapter
[17:57] and even the state
[18:00] government county government and
[18:02] city of Gallup and we wanted
[18:04] to just say thank you you know
[18:07] for being our friends our
[18:08] neighbors and helping one
[18:11] another you know times like this
[18:13] and distinguished guests all
[18:15] of you that are here my
[18:16] relatives in Navajo you have a
[18:19] relative you know each and every
[18:21] one of us you know that's our
[18:22] heritage and we go by you know
[18:28] each everyone isla by clan so we
[18:31] never are without relatives so
[18:35] that's ournavajo way, OK? and
[18:37] it's like I said my apologies
[18:39] for not accommodating you all at
[18:40] the chapter
[18:40] and
[18:45] I just want to get to it and say
[18:47] you know that I'm very grateful
[18:48] and thankful that the
[18:49] legislatures that are in there
[18:52] right now and prior have really
[18:54] helped the chapter with projects
[18:57] and all of that and some are
[18:58] still pending
[19:01] and all of that but I just
[19:03] want to express my appreciation
[19:05] for acknowledging and helping us
[19:08] and some of the projects that
[19:12] are still pending they're
[19:14] being worked on right now and I
[19:17] represent the five chapters also
[19:19] in district14 which is
[19:22] Mexican spprings coyote
[19:26] Canyon Nashchitti Tohachi
[19:27] and our chapter so in district4
[19:28] we
[19:32] have ive chapters and on
[19:33] their behalf I want to say thank
[19:36] you to each and all of you for
[19:38] assisting us with funds when
[19:40] when it's available and all of
[19:43] that and some projects have been
[19:45] successfully done and one
[19:47] thing before anything as I
[19:49] wanted to say I hope you still
[19:52] support us with the the projects
[19:53] that are still pending like
[19:54] the highway491 lighting
[19:58] and if you guys were over at
[19:59] the chapter I was and go ahead
[20:03] and have you witness all the
[20:05] fast vehicles that are going
[20:06] through and we have an
[20:08] elementary school there is no
[20:11] slowdown signs there is no
[20:13] bus pullout nothing like that
[20:16] people are just passing through
[20:18] there so fast there is no bump,
[20:20] nothing to warn people that
[20:22] there's a school there or
[20:24] anything so please I would
[20:24] suggest that you guys
[20:28] look into that and see what we
[20:30] can do to eliminate or to slow
[20:31] down traffic through there
[20:35] and then another thing that that
[20:37] you know is on my mind while
[20:41] I'm here is that we do we
[20:44] did pay the money that you guys
[20:47] did give paid for the safety
[20:49] audit that took all the money
[20:52] that your you allocated so
[20:53] now it's just the construction
[20:57] that's all you know pending and
[20:58] they say that we need more
[21:01] money1.4 million to complete and
[21:02] we really
[21:05] request that and hopefully it
[21:06] can be done soon
[21:10] and then and then thank you
[21:11] so much for
[21:16] JohnsonRoad. it is now a major
[21:19] road in our community thank you
[21:21] Patty Lindstrum for pushing
[21:22] that through for us
[21:25] and now we get all of the coyote
[21:28] Kenyan transportation to people
[21:30] coming from Coyota Canyon go
[21:31] through that road people coming
[21:33] fromortlegai roadad go through
[21:36] that road so it's really it
[21:39] needs to be completed the
[21:41] construction was not completed
[21:43] 2.2 miles of it is still
[21:46] unfinished due to the fact that
[21:49] money ran short but I would
[21:51] really recommend that that being
[21:52] that it's a major road right
[21:55] now but it has a lot of potholes
[21:58] now you know due to you know
[22:00] people going through there a lot
[22:02] and it's one of the major roads
[22:04] and one of our bridges are ready
[22:05] to give out and there's two
[22:08] bridges on that road but anyway
[22:09] I wanted to highlight that
[22:13] for you guys and then thankfully
[22:15] the money that you all allocated
[22:16] for the demolition of the old
[22:19] chapter itss finally going to
[22:21] happen it's out for bid and all
[22:22] that and
[22:24] asbestos cleanup needs to happen
[22:26] and all that they say but it's
[22:29] going to happen soon and it's
[22:32] out for bid so with that you
[22:34] know wanted to let you all know
[22:36] that that's going to happen
[22:39] and then and it's sad that
[22:41] the community cemetery that's
[22:44] really needed in our area.
[22:47] that money was reburied you know
[22:50] just because you know we have
[22:51] no project managers at the
[22:54] Navajo Nation
[22:58] in their government where you
[23:00] know the planned the projects
[23:01] and things like that people are
[23:04] leaving leaving their jobs and
[23:06] it's just staff turnover that's
[23:08] really slowing down things in
[23:10] the winter rock and with our
[23:11] chapter so we're just sitting
[23:14] idly by just waiting you know
[23:15] for these projects to be
[23:19] completed so you know that's I
[23:20] just wanted you guys to all
[23:22] understand that so you know it's
[23:23] really win the rock
[23:26] you know money stops there and
[23:27] all of that and you all know
[23:30] that so we just need people to
[23:32] push all that money through so
[23:33] it can you know accommodate our
[23:34] community
[23:37] and then one thing I want to
[23:38] suggest to the mayor is that
[23:40] maybe a sports complex in Gallup
[23:43] is due because you know I think
[23:46] it brings a lot of revenue
[23:47] and money you know are our
[23:49] sports and Navajo kids are
[23:51] really into sports and they
[23:53] bring that activity here and
[23:54] gallup
[23:57] you know makes makes money off
[23:59] of our people and all that and I
[24:02] think a sports complexes do here
[24:02] in Gallup
[24:05] either that or on the
[24:06] reservation on the highway491.
[24:09] but anyway, these are some of
[24:11] the things I wanted to highlight
[24:12] and
[24:16] just think about all this for
[24:19] us honorable leaders and we
[24:20] really appreciate all that you
[24:23] do and that's what I I have
[24:26] to say and the vice president
[24:26] here from the chapter I think
[24:27] will
[24:29] you know add to that
[24:36] yeahe penna my native tongue
[24:42] behaje adoshee adonadanolini
[24:44] that means my leaders and native
[24:49] a hawa and thank you for
[24:50] allowing us to say a few words
[24:53] and I'm not going to take all
[24:54] the time she did she had it
[24:56] written down.ine is all from my
[24:58] head Twin Lakes chapter known as
[25:01] boss a chapters we have a
[25:03] headstart in our area we also
[25:04] have an elementary school
[25:08] that's a feeder school to
[25:09] Tohatchie High School within
[25:12] within our area we also have
[25:14] husa Community school that we
[25:16] have a representative from our
[25:18] area that goes there. We also
[25:19] have a veterans program
[25:21] that we work with
[25:24] and then we also have our next
[25:26] door neighbors seniorenter
[25:26] program
[25:29] that's very much under our
[25:31] umbrella and then we also have a
[25:34] community health representative
[25:36] ChR does not have a place to
[25:38] house herself so she's stuck in
[25:38] the corner at the chapter house
[25:43] that consists of all the
[25:46] functions the daily functions of
[25:46] our chapter house
[25:49] and we would have loved to show
[25:51] you and take you down some of
[25:53] these roads that men and
[25:55] majority of our people travel
[25:58] every single day and these roads
[26:01] are for school use hospital
[26:03] appointment just to go get food
[26:04] just daily survival
[26:09] and a lot of them are washed out
[26:10] at this around last week and
[26:11] this week mostly
[26:16] wo homes completely flooded and
[26:18] we're working diligently to
[26:19] replace those homes with
[26:21] whatever funds we can get our
[26:22] hands on
[26:26] and just to echo what my sister
[26:28] said were sisters by clan by the
[26:30] way I'm probably sisters and
[26:33] relatives of the leadership here
[26:34] we work with
[26:37] our local governments whether
[26:39] it be thenavajo nation the state
[26:42] government, the Mcinley County,
[26:42] the city
[26:47] we all work together and try to
[26:48] make things happen for our
[26:51] people we get call all hours of
[26:54] the night we get text messages.
[26:57] I am flooded what can you do is
[26:59] the chapter available and we
[27:01] have to go around and make the
[27:02] chapter accessible 24/7.
[27:06] and mind you we're missing one
[27:08] important employee at our local
[27:10] government letters the the area
[27:13] so that makes it even harder
[27:16] what they call a a a community
[27:18] service worker the position is
[27:18] vacant in our area.
[27:20] in our chapter
[27:23] so we have to rely on our local
[27:24] public employment program
[27:24] workers
[27:28] and that's just the gist of how
[27:31] we live our lives in twin lakes
[27:33] but I would not change it for
[27:35] anything else. I'm there to help
[27:37] my people wherever I can however
[27:40] I can and I really do appreciate
[27:43] you all listening to me a ha I
[27:45] appreciate you all and
[27:46] everything that you all do you
[27:48] know it takes a lot being in a
[27:49] position wearing all kinds of
[27:51] hats and I'm sure you'll all get
[27:52] told this too
[27:55] some good and some not so good
[27:57] but we managed to live all those
[27:58] moments
[27:58] thank you
[28:06] thank you I havepresentative
[28:07] Lindstrom. thank you madam
[28:09] Chair. I'd like to start by
[28:12] saying both Elouise and Joan are
[28:13] two of the hardestworking public
[28:14] servants I've ever met.
[28:17] I've worked with them for years
[28:19] Eloise obviously at the
[28:21] chapter level and Joan at the
[28:22] chapter level and the public
[28:22] schools
[28:26] I did want to ask you a question
[28:28] there's a concept being kicked
[28:29] around now that council
[28:32] delegates will determine where
[28:32] your capital outlay goes.
[28:35] that's in a nutshell what I've
[28:37] always said when they talked to
[28:38] me about it is I'm gonna put the
[28:39] money
[28:41] to the people that actually send
[28:43] me to Santa Fe and I'm still
[28:44] gonna do that regardless of what
[28:45] everybody else does.
[28:48] because I think you know your
[28:50] community's at a heart level you
[28:52] know exactly where those
[28:52] pressure points are
[28:56] when you talk about things
[28:58] like JohnsonRoad. we worked on
[29:00] that project for probably5 years
[29:02] or longer. All those road
[29:05] projects I was involved with the
[29:07] new chapter building and that
[29:08] was yours in the making
[29:10] and it worked out fine for us
[29:12] and we're the rubber hits the
[29:13] road for us is what happens in
[29:14] Wind orRock.
[29:16] we don't have any control over
[29:16] that
[29:20] but what I wanted to ask is that
[29:20] there is a
[29:24] a group that's called the New
[29:26] Mexico delegation they're made
[29:27] up of different council
[29:28] delegates they're supposed to
[29:29] meet with us on a regular basis
[29:33] and they meet with us and tell
[29:36] us what the needs of the of the
[29:36] tribe is you know in general
[29:38] and
[29:41] what I've always found
[29:43] interesting is that they've
[29:44] never brought up this thing
[29:45] about cemeteries now the
[29:47] cemetery issue is a regulation
[29:49] that's changed across the entire
[29:50] Navajo nation
[29:54] so why on earth money would
[29:55] revert especially knowing that
[29:57] I'm the one who put that in
[29:59] there bugs me. it bugs me
[30:01] because those regulations came
[30:03] out of wenderock for the
[30:05] chapters to follow. It would
[30:07] make sense to me that this New
[30:10] Mexico delegation of council
[30:12] delegates would come together
[30:14] ask for one appropriation for
[30:16] all the chapters that are
[30:17] looking at upgrading your
[30:18] cemeteries
[30:21] for improvements for cemeteries
[30:23] across New Mexico chapters and
[30:24] we put that in as one capital
[30:24] request.
[30:26] but that's not how it happens
[30:30] So I I don't know if you guys go
[30:33] to those meetings or can talk
[30:34] to your delegates about that
[30:38] but I think we need one request
[30:39] so we can help all of them. I've
[30:43] had3 or4 now different chapters
[30:44] that have asked for cemetery
[30:46] improvement money and and I know
[30:47] you need it because the
[30:49] regulations have changed and
[30:50] there's no money that comes with
[30:51] that regulatory change
[30:56] so I would strongly suggest that
[30:58] maybe this committee can just
[30:59] work on that anyway
[31:02] but I don't want to jump the gun
[31:04] if the chapters have changed
[31:06] their priorities but I I know
[31:07] cemeteries are a big deal and
[31:09] I've had I've got at least4 now
[31:10] that want to see upgrade
[31:14] but I wanna cre appreciate you
[31:15] too and thank you for coming
[31:17] out. thanks for being partners
[31:19] in the trenches when it matters
[31:21] the most and anything I can do
[31:22] just ask me
[31:28] p re s ent ative Johnson
[31:31] thank you madam chairir,
[31:33] colleagues and thank you
[31:34] Shannahata
[31:39] Shade from Twin Lakes and
[31:40] then the rest of the Twin Lakes
[31:42] community and neighbors from
[31:43] Tohatchie along491.
[31:49] hi ft to on heates adobesoshi
[31:52] jali so we'll go ahead and have
[31:55] a meeting after this sometime in
[31:57] the next two weeks and going
[31:58] further and we'll talk about
[32:01] chapter community needs. so with
[32:03] that I just want to thank you
[32:05] for your hard work and
[32:08] you
[32:14] committee members you know thank
[32:14] you so
[32:19] does Twin Lakes have a cemetery
[32:20] established
[32:23] ok so there's no land withdrawal
[32:25] that's been done. Yes or where
[32:27] where's your where's your
[32:30] proposed site yes there is
[32:32] the eclipsy members they're
[32:34] working on the you know
[32:38] acquiring that first
[32:39] we're going to start with the
[32:43] four acres you know right now we
[32:46] had it set for11 acres and we
[32:48] did get a land withdrawal done.
[32:49] it's going through right now and
[32:50] we have
[32:53] permission from the
[32:56] landowner to build
[32:59] cemetery there and it's on route
[33:01] 9 going towards Coyote Canyon
[33:06] that that road it's how
[33:09] many miles down three miles down
[33:10] I think on your right side
[33:15] and we're talking about11
[33:18] acres you know but then we were
[33:20] seeing you know we should
[33:23] just we should just do4 from
[33:24] the beginning you know and then
[33:25] add to it
[33:29] but it's all being done by
[33:30] the clubc members and they're
[33:31] meeting tomorrow.
[33:34] iss it tomorrow you guys are
[33:36] meeting oh no oh the following
[33:36] week'm sorry go ahead
[33:40] let me add to that I have the
[33:43] packet I I have the packet
[33:44] that's ready to be submitted.
[33:45] However, we still need our
[33:48] grazing official signature on
[33:50] some of the forms that needs to
[33:52] and then we'll finalize it and
[33:54] then it'll go to C pmD I
[33:56] understand and I'm trying to
[33:57] help and run with it with what
[33:58] we do have
[34:02] it was like she said through
[34:04] four acres it's been reverted
[34:04] back to11.5.
[34:09] it's reverted back to11.5 and
[34:12] we're asking for access to the
[34:14] area and it's right along the
[34:18] line that gas line but it's
[34:20] not right in the area it's
[34:21] beside the area so we're going
[34:23] to have to ask for permission
[34:26] from the company there just
[34:27] little minor steps that we're
[34:28] still working on
[34:29] otherwise
[34:34] yeah yeah we're gonna be outside
[34:37] it and the lady that is
[34:38] president for lupsy. she knows
[34:39] what she's doing
[34:42] that's her job and she's got a
[34:44] lot of experience with that so
[34:46] she's leading us through and
[34:49] I have the packet with me and I
[34:50] just as soon as I get the
[34:51] signatures from the young man
[34:52] we're on our way
[34:56] thank you and it's it's kind of
[34:57] just letting our members know
[35:00] too what we what our challenges
[35:01] are within the chapter because
[35:04] not every chapter has a cemetery
[35:07] ours actually in hatchie's maxed
[35:09] out and they did extend it but
[35:12] with the upgrades to the burial
[35:15] procedure it has to be fenced
[35:17] and it has to have public access
[35:21] is part of it so they didn't
[35:23] say actually criteria for what
[35:24] public access is I don't know
[35:27] as far as grading the road
[35:28] because I if that
[35:30] because I know there are
[35:32] restrictions when you go over
[35:33] the gas line as far as grading
[35:34] or any kind of road improvement
[35:37] yeah it's very difficult
[35:41] the water situation
[35:46] it was interesting this morning
[35:48] cause I was on my way to the
[35:49] meeting here and they said it is
[35:51] not just a it happens
[35:53] periodically. how often does
[35:55] that happen in what areas of the
[35:58] twin lakes is happening at it
[35:59] sounds like you guys are losing
[36:03] water often well to answer
[36:04] your question
[36:04] chair
[36:07] it happens
[36:10] I would say more than
[36:12] periodically we either have no
[36:14] water or no electricity.
[36:18] and it's only like a certain
[36:21] section and I don't know if ours
[36:23] we live in that area where it's
[36:24] always been impacted
[36:26] our neighbors would have water
[36:29] neighborighs on the other side
[36:31] would have water but I don't
[36:32] know if our water tank is
[36:34] connected withexican springs
[36:36] when they're without water we
[36:38] don't have water and that water
[36:40] what the the area that I'm
[36:41] talking about is if you know
[36:43] where the chapter house is
[36:45] straight down east from there
[36:47] and you notice the housing there
[36:49] and the elementary is just east
[36:52] of Dda Headart is just east of
[36:52] there yeah
[36:56] Twin Lakes housing yeah just
[36:57] it's that whole strip will have
[36:58] no water
[37:02] and if and if the power goes
[37:03] out it's completely out a
[37:04] blackout
[37:08] and you just I mean people will
[37:10] call me I will call NTUA and try
[37:11] to get somebody get some
[37:13] information really back to
[37:15] the community residents
[37:17] so NTUA is aware of it
[37:20] we've been calling and calling
[37:21] and
[37:26] their answer is always your area
[37:28] is not the only one affected all
[37:30] these other areas so we'll
[37:32] address it when we will address
[37:33] it when we find a broken water
[37:34] line
[37:37] so you don't know if it's
[37:39] actually a broken water line or
[37:42] don't know we just report it you
[37:45] just report it what happens
[37:47] at the school do you know if
[37:48] they don't have any water they
[37:50] get water delivered water
[37:53] bottles delivered and then they
[37:54] also have
[37:56] other alternative ways
[37:58] for the restroom facility
[38:03] or if worst comes to worst
[38:05] the last thing they do I know
[38:06] for a fact is they don't release
[38:09] school any time during the
[38:10] school day because they don't
[38:12] know if anybody will be home to
[38:14] receive the kits or even if they
[38:15] have a key to get into their
[38:16] house
[38:19] it's better and safer for them
[38:21] to stay at the school and I just
[38:23] want members to know this is
[38:24] this happens atchi too it
[38:26] happened once a couple of years
[38:28] at elementary you we have and
[38:30] they told my kids that because
[38:32] they couldn't get porta potties
[38:34] they had to get on the bus and
[38:36] go to Twinlakes to use the
[38:37] restroom at one moment
[38:42] so this is it's an issue I
[38:44] and you have reached out
[38:45] tonTwe ok
[38:49] I'm I'm going to talk to our our
[38:51] our public school company they
[38:53] oversight task force and PED and
[38:55] then we'll go from there too and
[38:58] and the delegates
[39:02] somebody from the nation's far
[39:03] leadership are they aware
[39:06] thelDAs or I think oh
[39:11] thelAs are the ones that work
[39:14] for council delegate that
[39:15] because they they're the ones
[39:16] attending the meetings and you
[39:18] haven't spoken to a delegate
[39:20] directly more than the delegate
[39:22] because delegates always in
[39:23] the window on those committee
[39:26] meetings and all that so he
[39:29] has 2 2lDAs that work under him
[39:31] so they go to these meetings at
[39:33] the local level can you have
[39:35] something generated written
[39:36] to the the members or to me and
[39:37] then I'll
[39:40] disseminate it to to our members
[39:40] here
[39:44] to read it over in that way
[39:46] representatives here can also
[39:48] take it up the line to our to
[39:51] who we talk to too and get it
[39:53] addressed cause I think it is in
[39:55] especially when we talk about
[39:56] our children
[39:57] it should probably even go to
[39:59] OEh in some instances because
[40:01] I'm assuming that senior center
[40:03] and that gets shut down when the
[40:04] water pressures because you
[40:04] can't have you can't
[40:12] ok let me see the chapter I
[40:14] know that the old chapter
[40:16] house with the demolition you
[40:18] need to report that to us to in
[40:19] that process of where you're
[40:21] standing because right now on my
[40:23] list that I just received last
[40:26] week that it says nobody's
[40:27] reported anything and you guys
[40:28] are under the red about where
[40:30] the project stands so you need
[40:33] to call our DFfa and let them
[40:35] know where you guys are at in
[40:36] the process so it reflects in
[40:36] what
[40:40] I receive or else will be in
[40:41] trouble by the time the session
[40:44] startsmorrow we're having a
[40:45] leadership meeting tomorrow
[40:46] morning at the chapter and
[40:48] that's when the council delegate
[40:51] and his LDA that's when we we
[40:52] report to each others
[40:56] and the officials so and yeah
[40:57] they'll be that that will be on
[40:59] the list yeah and I just want to
[41:02] make sure too I mean I'm not
[41:04] trying to because I know I
[41:06] have other chapter leaders here
[41:09] and community members here that
[41:10] if we're not really aware of
[41:11] the situation but we need
[41:14] something in writing even when I
[41:15] talked to my congressional
[41:16] leaders especially when it's
[41:18] like a federal road or something
[41:20] is it's like yeah there's a
[41:20] problem with this road
[41:23] no it's not just because I'm
[41:25] driving on it but I need a
[41:26] community member to come forward
[41:28] and put that in writing so I can
[41:30] send it up and say this is an
[41:31] issue coming from this person in
[41:33] this community and that they're
[41:34] not just thinking I'm trying to
[41:36] do something that's easier for
[41:39] me and to drive on to where I
[41:41] drive or in any issue in that
[41:43] sense so we need to receive that
[41:46] in writing in that sense but
[41:48] thank you for the work you do
[41:50] and I believe that process to
[41:50] that proposed process
[41:54] was just recently proposed
[41:56] but we're going back to to
[41:57] make sure that you guys are
[41:59] shovel ready in that sense but I
[42:01] think it does, I don't think it
[42:02] has been communicated to the
[42:04] chapters yet because it seems
[42:07] like it's coming top down and
[42:09] then we'll go from there because
[42:11] I do believe that Navajo Nation
[42:15] areigrother has their process
[42:18] that hurts our chapters and
[42:19] they need to streamline it over
[42:20] there and get their their ducks
[42:21] in a row
[42:23] and then let our our chapters
[42:24] know
[42:26] what's what's there but once
[42:28] it's done it'll be communicated
[42:30] out as soon as possible. I don't
[42:31] know if you have any questions
[42:32] for me. Oh, and the lighting
[42:35] because I don't think you guys
[42:37] ever had a school zone like
[42:40] ever in that area. it was just a
[42:41] safety corridor that was it.
[42:43] Tohatchee does not have one
[42:44] there's got
[42:46] knocked down I think in an
[42:48] accident or something but all
[42:50] along for91, that's going to
[42:51] be something I will will address
[42:55] up and down49 because I
[42:56] think new comes the other one
[43:00] up and down there that needs
[43:03] and even with the bus routes and
[43:04] rockcksprings with the
[43:07] because I do believetachi
[43:08] changed her transportation route
[43:11] so your school bus
[43:13] transportation routes need to
[43:14] make sure they're communicated
[43:15] so that we know where that
[43:16] zone's supposed to be how far
[43:17] out
[43:20] in that sense and I know we
[43:20] did
[43:24] I don't know if there's actually
[43:26] needs to be a turnout extended
[43:29] like they did at Chi Dodge
[43:30] because we were having issues
[43:31] right there on top of the hill
[43:33] and you saw we extended that
[43:36] lane out for for that traffic. I
[43:36] don't know
[43:40] how that but let's let's take
[43:42] this further but thank you and
[43:44] alluding to the turnout to the
[43:44] elementary school needs to bewi.
[43:49] we have two yeah big buses that
[43:51] go in there and you can turn out
[43:52] and then you wait for the
[43:55] vehicles creates a congestion in
[43:56] the mornings they told me
[43:57] because I told them
[43:59] tohachielementary was like that
[44:01] and they said you're right it's
[44:02] too narrow but I'm not sure what
[44:04] we because that road right
[44:06] there's a BIA road and that one
[44:07] might be too right
[44:11] to be ident yeah to the to the
[44:12] housing ok
[44:15] but that one was they did a
[44:17] good job right there at Doy
[44:20] dodge they completed it that's
[44:21] yeah it's very safe and I like
[44:22] it
[44:24] thank you thank you for the work
[44:26] you do thank you thank you for
[44:28] joining us and hopefully we get
[44:29] to be out there. I know I
[44:31] stopped by there a couple of
[44:33] times but you guys are busy too
[44:36] I let them know I stopped by
[44:37] write a little note and I don't
[44:38] know if you can read my writing
[44:40] but thank you thank you
[44:44] thank you all ok committee
[44:46] members we will move on to item
[44:47] two update from the city
[44:48] ofallllup
[44:52] and we have Frank Gippetti and
[44:54] Marc Dipali and I would also
[44:55] like to mention that I did see
[44:57] heavy equipment coming from
[44:59] Gallup headed up north on491 so
[45:01] I'm sure that's a county or the
[45:03] city going out to great roads so
[45:05] we appreciate that very much for
[45:06] the outreach as we move forward
[45:10] I know petty's been before us
[45:11] before and
[45:13] I don't know if mayor's coming
[45:15] back but thank you for joining
[45:16] us audience members
[48:14] OK and a little bit of
[48:16] housekeeping if you go out
[48:17] this door don't go out the
[48:19] second door. The restrooms are
[48:20] just the first door down to the
[48:21] right the restrooms are there.
[48:22] Second
[48:24] ' m just kidding
[48:28] it'll be very close to it but
[48:29] thank you good morning and you
[48:30] may
[48:34] You out there Benny
[48:37] chair chairman Pinto legislators
[48:44] legislative council staff She
[48:46] Frankcipetti and Nisha Beagunna
[48:47] Nnichelele Italian bush's chin
[48:52] Irish English dashache
[48:55] Italian dachanae city of
[48:58] Gallupbannonish city manager
[49:00] initially so my name is
[49:02] Frankippetti. fourthgenation
[49:02] Gallup,
[49:04] love my hometown I'd have to say
[49:05] that's why I'm still here
[49:08] good place to raise a family
[49:09] fifth generation is here
[49:11] One of these days we'll have a
[49:13] sixthgeneration but right now I
[49:14] have grand dogs
[49:18] welcome welcome to Gallup.
[49:20] we wanted to do a short
[49:21] discussion on the Navajo Gallup
[49:22] water supply project.
[49:25] our mayor being the water
[49:27] engineer that's been involved in
[49:29] this since conception. I think
[49:30] it'd be more appropriate for him
[49:31] to talk about that. Then I've
[49:34] also brought deborah Martinez
[49:35] who runs our behavioral health
[49:38] programs and I brought her in
[49:40] so when we talked the unhoused
[49:41] and housing initiatives
[49:45] she she can give a deeper
[49:46] background and answer more in
[49:48] depth questions than I would be
[49:49] able to. I know a little bit
[49:50] about the city and every
[49:52] component but we have experts
[49:54] so'd like to turn it over to
[49:55] Maor depaulli to talk about our
[49:56] Navajo gallup
[50:00] thanks rank then thanks again
[50:02] for coming to madam chair and
[50:02] everybody already gave an
[50:04] introduction and welcome so
[50:06] thenavel gallup project as you
[50:07] guys know has been in the works
[50:11] for over100 years1922 is when it
[50:12] was first started and we're not
[50:13] gonna go through all the
[50:14] tribulations and stuff but it
[50:17] was delayed in in 2019. the
[50:19] delivery date was supposed to be
[50:22] December31st,2024. that
[50:23] delayed that data has been
[50:25] delayed because of some some mac
[50:26] operational things that that
[50:27] would enhance the
[50:28] project.
[50:31] so right now the del delivery
[50:34] date is set for about 2030.
[50:35] hopefully by then the we'll
[50:37] have the rest of the the water
[50:38] treatment plant done and the the
[50:39] water delivery facilities
[50:42] installed and we'll be seeing
[50:44] drinking water in gallup and
[50:45] that means also all of our
[50:47] neighbors to the north twin
[50:50] Lakes of course Tohatchie and
[50:51] all the chapters around Gallup
[50:54] fromhurch rockyambato read
[50:57] springs umchilta ed rockck
[50:58] magnuitto Wa be distributed all
[51:01] through town but right now
[51:03] we're still on groundwater and
[51:04] we really appreciate all the the
[51:06] help that the state has given us
[51:07] by supplementing the delay in
[51:09] the the compensating for the
[51:11] delay and the delivery of the
[51:13] surface water by giving us money
[51:15] to drill wells so far we've
[51:17] drilled about 6 wells and we
[51:18] should have all three of those
[51:21] equipped unfortunately
[51:23] because of switch gear and
[51:24] that's electrical switch gear
[51:27] and and pumps we use the same
[51:28] switch gear and pumps that they
[51:31] use in the oil industry and when
[51:33] oil's100 dollars a barrel
[51:35] it's hard to get that those
[51:36] companies to want even come to
[51:38] gallup so we are having a little
[51:39] bit of struggle getting our
[51:41] water wells equipped with the
[51:42] proper pumps and switch gear.
[51:46] with that umc again should we
[51:46] should have hopefully the I
[51:48] think the water is on time to be
[51:49] delivered so the surface water
[51:50] should be here but in the
[51:51] meantime we're still struggling
[51:52] with groundwater
[51:55] and if you do and if anybody has
[51:56] any questions about thearbo
[51:57] gallup or anything I'd be glad
[51:58] to answer them.
[52:05] Yeah let's go ahead and have you
[52:06] all present and then we'll take
[52:06] questions after so
[52:15] Thank you vice chair.
[52:17] attached you you we were giving
[52:18] you several graphs
[52:21] last winter
[52:25] for the unhoused
[52:29] ally gallup has a number
[52:33] and
[52:35] we were working to
[52:39] I'm not plugged in sorry once
[52:41] again we did a warming center
[52:43] last winter. thank you very much
[52:45] legislative council services
[52:46] is always on top of things
[52:48] we
[52:52] had a warming center to try to
[52:55] prevent exposure deaths
[52:57] gallup traditionally has a large
[52:58] number of exposure desks
[53:02] it's it's not uncommon to see
[53:03] subzero temperatures in Gallllup
[53:04] during the wintertime.
[53:08] so December 22nd through
[53:10] February 28, we had a warming
[53:13] center we leased a portion of a
[53:17] motel provided daily ser
[53:20] or evening services for them.
[53:20] I'm not gonna say it was a
[53:21] smooth
[53:27] it it had some roadblocks
[53:29] people wanting to bring alcohol
[53:32] in weapons in some violence
[53:35] so as we started we we had to
[53:36] be equipped a little bit deeper
[53:36] with security
[53:39] and and other things to keep
[53:40] staff safe
[53:44] it it it we were hoping for
[53:46] something smooth, appreciated,
[53:47] I'm gonna say some families
[53:48] did
[53:51] it was troubling to see
[53:52] having to see children
[53:52] coming in
[53:53] to it
[53:57] so it it did serve its
[53:58] purpose
[54:00] but with not without
[54:02] roadblocks and and that's
[54:02] something that
[54:06] the group that does take it this
[54:08] next year if they want to. city
[54:09] he'd be happy to be the fiscal
[54:11] agent but we're asking
[54:13] another group some some of
[54:14] the groups that are wanting to
[54:15] do cooling and warming centers
[54:16] in the area
[54:18] and are directly with the
[54:20] unhoused already might already
[54:22] have that expertise to to do it
[54:22] more than what the city did.
[54:28] again we provide services
[54:28] we have
[54:32] groups that that meet offer
[54:34] services but when we're offering
[54:36] services we're offering to to
[54:38] external agencies we the city
[54:40] itself doesn't do the direct
[54:40] services
[54:42] so we were stepping up on this
[54:43] almost
[54:46] expected to be more of a direct
[54:47] service which we're not equipped
[54:49] to do so we'd like to see
[54:50] another one of the groups
[54:53] take it but again they can't
[54:56] really be the fiscal agent so I
[54:58] I will offer the city services
[54:59] to be that fiscal agent and help
[55:00] coordinate the financing portion
[55:03] but when it comes down to the
[55:05] programming portion again we
[55:07] would love to do intakes we
[55:08] would love to help with the
[55:10] referrals but we'd like to see
[55:11] somebody who's equipped
[55:13] dealing with all the
[55:15] components of the unhoused to
[55:16] actually do the services itself
[55:18] so we don't want it to go away
[55:21] but at the same time we don't
[55:23] want to be the direct portion
[55:24] because again safety for our
[55:24] staff
[55:26] and and then
[55:30] we have knowledge but we're not
[55:32] experts OK a lot of data
[55:34] there for you and deb if you'd
[55:36] like to talk about the the data
[55:41] did a great job. again we we
[55:43] do have these type of services
[55:46] to to break down the data and
[55:47] and to
[55:49] I can't think of the name of
[55:50] your
[55:53] ro up that each of your grants
[55:54] has to have that breaks the data
[55:55] down
[55:58] evaluate evaluator. we do have
[56:00] those type of services so she
[56:00] does a great job with the data
[56:04] madam chairir committee
[56:06] like we did we did a pilot
[56:08] project with the emergency
[56:09] shelter we contracted with
[56:12] various programs they are
[56:14] listed here we had
[56:17] transport services we use the
[56:20] hotel we gallupunity Health
[56:22] was actually the ones operating
[56:24] it but it took a lot of
[56:26] manpower and you'll see some of
[56:26] the recommendations out of of
[56:31] the the warming shelter so we
[56:36] had 292,971 intakes and out of
[56:38] those there was 636 unique
[56:40] individuals so you'll see split
[56:42] it opened by population
[56:45] and then the highest number of
[56:48] stays there was 63 but you'll
[56:49] see that a majority of the
[56:51] people didn't stay less than5
[56:52] days.
[56:55] you'll see the population
[56:57] we didn't break it down by the
[56:58] time that we had got this going
[57:00] it was kind of a last minute
[57:01] thing it was an emergency
[57:04] shelter 64% of the individuals
[57:06] are from McKinley County. you'll
[57:08] see the ethnicity the age range
[57:10] and then the percentage of time
[57:12] they were homelessness and then
[57:13] which was interesting was the
[57:16] barriers to housing a lot of
[57:17] individuals had missing
[57:19] documents had substance use
[57:21] disorder, no housing for a large
[57:22] families
[57:25] access to services, access to
[57:26] communication, no physical
[57:28] mailing address, mental health
[57:29] and rental prices
[57:39] Thank you Deb we also do
[57:42] outreach monthly where our
[57:44] law enforcement fire, any
[57:45] agency that wants to go along
[57:48] with us and and then Deb's
[57:50] department goes out and and
[57:53] actually walks the ditches,
[57:56] walks the area of traditional
[57:58] unhoused locations a lot of our
[57:58] transient camps and they go and
[57:59] visit
[58:04] and we we try to talk to him
[58:06] build trust, offer services
[58:08] find what the underlying causes
[58:10] if it's housing how how can we
[58:12] help refer you to to some place
[58:14] to help with housing if it's
[58:15] missing documents we we can help
[58:17] to try to get him the documents
[58:19] for substance abuse we can do
[58:20] referrals but I'm gonna say
[58:22] that's that's very difficult in
[58:23] our area without mandatory
[58:28] required
[58:29] they they don't want to go
[58:30] they don't wanna stay
[58:34] we're we're finding that our
[58:37] ditch roerco
[58:40] the the river system is a haven
[58:45] for the unhoused a lot of it
[58:46] falls under state jurisdiction.
[58:48] a lot of it falls under
[58:49] Burlington Northern railroad
[58:51] jurisdiction. some of it we have
[58:54] no jurisdiction whatsoever so it
[58:57] it becomes a a mecca for
[59:00] prostitution for drugs used
[59:02] to be alcohol which was easier
[59:03] to deal with but now it's
[59:04] fentanyl it's meth
[59:07] it it it's it's getting deeper
[59:10] I believe in the the mayor's
[59:11] opening he talked about the
[59:12] trafficking
[59:15] and and it's amazing to hear how
[59:17] many young girls that oh I just
[59:18] had a ride into town and and and
[59:19] they left me
[59:20] that that's a cover
[59:24] they're they're here they're
[59:26] being they're being marketed
[59:28] it's it's a sad and and it's
[59:29] very difficult for us they
[59:30] haven't committed a crime that
[59:32] we know of. we know what's
[59:34] happening but to prove it and
[59:35] when they just tell you I'm I'm
[59:36] here voluntarily I was left. I
[59:37] don't want services
[59:40] and they walk across the bridge
[59:42] away from you and immediately
[59:44] get picked up by somebody you
[59:45] know they're being trafficked it
[59:46] it it's it's a sad
[59:48] sad step so
[59:51] anything we can get for
[59:54] mandatory treatment for those
[59:56] that are not competent because
[59:56] of the heavy drug use
[59:59] or anything that can be helped
[1:00:00] with
[1:00:04] the the trafficking any laws
[1:00:04] that you can do would be a great
[1:00:05] help.
[1:00:08] during these outreach this year
[1:00:08] we're starting to collect deeper
[1:00:09] data
[1:00:12] one of them I brought was
[1:00:13] where where the people are
[1:00:14] coming from
[1:00:14] so we did two
[1:00:17] two so far August and September
[1:00:20] for this fiscal year
[1:00:24] these are low numbers
[1:00:27] august we hit I believe
[1:00:30] around50 some people the
[1:00:31] September 1 we hit a little
[1:00:32] over100
[1:00:35] so it's it's not the best data
[1:00:37] because of the small population
[1:00:38] numbers but but you can see
[1:00:43] where where the where the people
[1:00:45] are coming from. In august
[1:00:46] everybodydy talked to us it was
[1:00:48] it was nice to hear and and you
[1:00:50] can see the breakdown of of
[1:00:50] where the people came from
[1:00:54] Gallup might be over emphasized
[1:00:57] um73% doesn't mean they're from
[1:00:58] Gallup. We know Gallup has a new
[1:00:59] meaning
[1:01:02] people used to laugh when
[1:01:03] they tell me they come from
[1:01:05] Comato and I'm like ok which
[1:01:06] direction
[1:01:08] because there's not many people
[1:01:10] in Comaro you know they live in
[1:01:12] Apache Creek if they live east
[1:01:14] ofummoto towards Dadl west north
[1:01:15] they're from Comado even though
[1:01:17] they're not inomado well that's
[1:01:18] the same for gallup
[1:01:22] September we we had a lot
[1:01:22] refused to talk to us.
[1:01:25] it's sad to see that that huge
[1:01:28] left b block blue block just
[1:01:30] refused to give us information
[1:01:31] but we have people coming from
[1:01:32] Texas
[1:01:34] navajo Nation
[1:01:36] Zunni, or
[1:01:41] when I put arizona I don't put
[1:01:42] the
[1:01:42] chinnley
[1:01:45] granato. I I count those as
[1:01:47] Navonation. So this group from
[1:01:51] that that 2% from arizona we're
[1:01:54] talking Phoenix, Tucson, those
[1:01:55] type of places and what we're
[1:01:56] finding with a lot of those as
[1:01:58] we talk to them they come to
[1:01:59] gallup for treatment
[1:02:00] or
[1:02:03] they get on a bus
[1:02:06] or they're kicked off a train
[1:02:09] they can get intoxicated on the
[1:02:10] train the next stop the train
[1:02:10] stops
[1:02:11] you're removed
[1:02:15] they have a bus ticket and this
[1:02:17] is as far as they get. we've
[1:02:18] we've actually talked to some
[1:02:19] people last year
[1:02:22] several Africanericans it's like
[1:02:24] hey what brought you to gallup?
[1:02:25] It's like well we were going
[1:02:26] west and this is as far as we
[1:02:27] had money to get.
[1:02:29] this was the bus stop that our
[1:02:30] ticket ran out
[1:02:30] here we are
[1:02:36] that type of stuff we see
[1:02:37] some that go to treatment
[1:02:39] they either voluntarily say I'm
[1:02:40] done with this because there's
[1:02:42] no again no mandatory to
[1:02:44] complete treatment they walk out
[1:02:46] after 2 days,80 days whatever
[1:02:46] they walk out
[1:02:49] they don't have the money to get
[1:02:50] back home
[1:02:53] some of them actually graduate
[1:02:54] from these programs
[1:02:57] they don't have the money to go
[1:02:58] back home
[1:03:00] and unfortunately then we're
[1:03:00] seeing
[1:03:02] they graduate from these
[1:03:02] programs
[1:03:05] they don't have the housing they
[1:03:06] don't have the workforce
[1:03:09] they start the cycle all over
[1:03:11] again we know if they end up
[1:03:12] back in that real perco
[1:03:14] within 30 days they're going to
[1:03:14] be using again it's sad to say
[1:03:18] the last giraffe is a much
[1:03:20] better representation this is
[1:03:20] well over1000 people.
[1:03:22] these are the people done
[1:03:24] intakes at NCI who come to NCI
[1:03:30] and and when I say come tonCI we
[1:03:32] do allow people come to NCI who
[1:03:32] are clean
[1:03:36] that need a place to stay for
[1:03:36] the night, especially in the
[1:03:37] cold months.
[1:03:40] um, especially before we had the
[1:03:42] warming shelter we allow them
[1:03:43] to come if you're clean when you
[1:03:44] come in and you're clean the
[1:03:45] next morning
[1:03:45] have a great day
[1:03:49] you got a nice bed you got your
[1:03:50] clothes washed showered, fed
[1:03:54] and and you can go bo about your
[1:03:56] life now if they are intoxicated
[1:03:57] we do do72hoho tip
[1:04:04] twelvehour and72 hour depending
[1:04:04] on how many times they've been
[1:04:05] to the facility in the last th30
[1:04:06] days.
[1:04:09] so so we have some that we hold
[1:04:10] longer
[1:04:15] this so this is much better data
[1:04:17] and again Texas, Colorado
[1:04:18] arizona
[1:04:21] other portions of New Mexico
[1:04:23] Navajo Nation Zunni
[1:04:25] gallopingam merkel and then the
[1:04:27] rema and when I sayRama it's
[1:04:29] it's ramah pine hill area so you
[1:04:31] know we're seeing a large number
[1:04:33] and and this is where we're
[1:04:34] we're asking you
[1:04:37] we're we're funding NCI with
[1:04:39] with the money that that we get
[1:04:40] granted
[1:04:43] we're we're looking for other
[1:04:45] support this is a national
[1:04:46] problem as you can see by the
[1:04:47] other states
[1:04:49] and it's anavajo nation problem
[1:04:53] and it's a gallup problem so
[1:04:54] working trying to work in
[1:04:55] conjunction with all parties
[1:04:59] so
[1:05:02] it it it's just something I
[1:05:04] wanted to to put on the table to
[1:05:06] to see what we have and then
[1:05:06] open that discussion
[1:05:08] We do have gallup housing
[1:05:13] authority who are doing the
[1:05:14] the low income housing
[1:05:16] great to see
[1:05:18] they are maxed out
[1:05:20] they have a long waiting list
[1:05:24] they're now looking at working
[1:05:26] towards the people who've timed
[1:05:28] out within their program they've
[1:05:29] been in the maximum number of
[1:05:32] years months and and now they
[1:05:33] have to move to the next level
[1:05:34] housing workforce housing so
[1:05:36] they're they're starting to look
[1:05:37] at that and Gallllup is also
[1:05:38] starting we have several
[1:05:40] potential
[1:05:43] residential sites where the city
[1:05:44] of Gallup owns land
[1:05:48] we would like to really start
[1:05:48] turning that land into
[1:05:54] the housing to start opening the
[1:05:55] low rent housing
[1:05:58] to some of these unhoused type
[1:06:01] to to who qualify and start
[1:06:02] taking those that are now aging
[1:06:03] out
[1:06:06] of the low income into the
[1:06:08] workforce development,
[1:06:11] tho those families as soon as
[1:06:12] they age out where are they
[1:06:12] going
[1:06:14] Gallup doesn't have workforce
[1:06:14] housing.
[1:06:17] we have market rate housing
[1:06:20] and the market rates in Gallup
[1:06:20] are high.
[1:06:24] so we'd like to build more of a
[1:06:25] workforce smaller homes
[1:06:29] we would love to do senior
[1:06:30] we're building a new senior
[1:06:32] center and we thank your
[1:06:33] Department of Aging for
[1:06:34] everything they've done for us.
[1:06:36] It's it's fabulous. we're
[1:06:37] looking at a grand opening in
[1:06:38] November so we'll be sending
[1:06:39] invites out
[1:06:41] it's going to be a beautiful
[1:06:45] center generator will
[1:06:47] actually have an emergency
[1:06:49] shelter for elderly therefore
[1:06:50] when the power goes out
[1:06:52] those type of things
[1:06:55] we would love we own the land
[1:06:56] across the street. we would love
[1:06:58] to see senior housing because
[1:06:59] we're seeing that's another need
[1:06:59] also
[1:07:03] so we were doing research we've
[1:07:05] looked in Gunnison we've looked
[1:07:07] at other places that have
[1:07:08] presented to the International
[1:07:10] cityity Manag's association who
[1:07:12] are doing wonderful workforce
[1:07:15] developing housing and how with
[1:07:16] the startup money
[1:07:18] they then can take over
[1:07:22] with their revenue to escalate
[1:07:25] it and continue it for for the
[1:07:26] initial investment. So we're
[1:07:28] doing that research and we will
[1:07:30] be applying to all the available
[1:07:31] programs both state and
[1:07:34] federally to get us that seed
[1:07:36] money to build the first complex
[1:07:39] type thing and then move we're
[1:07:40] also working with some
[1:07:42] behavioral health agencies as I
[1:07:42] said they you go for addiction
[1:07:45] you come out clean in 90 days?
[1:07:50] where do you go? Nobody has the
[1:07:52] transitional housing where to go
[1:07:54] so we are talking with some of
[1:07:55] them we just met with our
[1:07:57] Corners new staff. they have a
[1:08:00] new CEO and we met with them a
[1:08:02] couple weeks ago and and and I
[1:08:03] pitched the idea wed pitched it
[1:08:04] to him last year there was some
[1:08:06] momentum excitement then they
[1:08:08] changed people and it was quiet
[1:08:08] during the last legislative
[1:08:10] season. I didn't want to come
[1:08:12] ask for anything not knowing if
[1:08:14] it was wanted or not this year
[1:08:15] it looks like it's gonna be
[1:08:16] wanted they would love to build
[1:08:16] a
[1:08:19] transitional one year housing so
[1:08:20] as they graduate from these
[1:08:22] treatment centers they can move
[1:08:22] into group housing
[1:08:25] and in that group housing they
[1:08:26] have the camaraderie they have
[1:08:28] the counseling a place where the
[1:08:29] PO can meet with them
[1:08:31] they have the individual
[1:08:33] counseling but more importantly
[1:08:36] we can offer them a set location
[1:08:38] for the public transportation,
[1:08:40] working with other agencies to
[1:08:41] get them into workforce
[1:08:43] development. give them that one
[1:08:45] year of clean life, building
[1:08:47] skills to where they graduate
[1:08:48] that next year
[1:08:51] hopefully they've got a small
[1:08:52] next stake to go where they want
[1:08:54] whether it's back home whether
[1:08:56] it's here and then to live clean
[1:09:00] in in the next transition
[1:09:01] without having to go back on the
[1:09:02] street
[1:09:04] and and and start the cycle over
[1:09:07] so those are some of the things
[1:09:08] that we're looking at doing
[1:09:10] we're we're excited about and
[1:09:12] we're starting to get other
[1:09:14] agencies to look with us and I
[1:09:16] think that's important. City
[1:09:17] can't do it by herself. The
[1:09:19] outside agencies can't do it by
[1:09:20] theirsel but with good
[1:09:20] partnerships I think we're going
[1:09:21] to get there
[1:09:24] so we would all love to stand
[1:09:24] for questions
[1:09:28] thank you memberspresentative
[1:09:28] Luundstone
[1:09:31] thank you madam chair and I'd
[1:09:33] like to thank the panel this
[1:09:34] morning for being here. A
[1:09:35] coupleup of questions that I did
[1:09:38] have in august we had a joint
[1:09:39] committee hearing federal funds
[1:09:40] stabilization with the health
[1:09:41] committee
[1:09:44] that was over at the county
[1:09:46] and it's interesting to listen
[1:09:48] about how we need other
[1:09:50] support regre regarding some of
[1:09:52] these services for the homeless
[1:09:54] and behavioral health services
[1:09:55] one of the issues that was
[1:09:57] brought up and actually being
[1:09:59] initiated by some of the members
[1:10:01] of this committee is asking for
[1:10:02] an increase in alcohol tax.
[1:10:07] and I'm asking you guys don't
[1:10:08] have to tell me now what you
[1:10:09] think about it but obviously
[1:10:10] I'll want to know before the
[1:10:13] session starts where does the
[1:10:15] city stand on increase for
[1:10:18] alcohol tax to try to get some
[1:10:20] of these things dealt with as
[1:10:21] I've mentioned in that committee
[1:10:24] hearing, McKinley County already
[1:10:25] has a liquor excise tax at5%.
[1:10:29] what this bill is calling for as
[1:10:32] an additional5% on top of that
[1:10:32] and
[1:10:35] the important thing to remember
[1:10:36] though is that it is
[1:10:38] considerable increase in money
[1:10:40] coming back to Mcinley County.
[1:10:42] You get about a million dollars
[1:10:45] in liquor excise tax now but if
[1:10:46] this additional tax was included
[1:10:50] what I saw on that chart was
[1:10:52] about 2 million that comes back
[1:10:53] to the county for services.
[1:10:54] obviouslybviously the city too
[1:10:57] but I need to know where you
[1:10:59] stand. I haven't voted for that
[1:11:00] bill and I serve on the tax
[1:11:01] committee. I haven't voted for
[1:11:03] it the last two times, but I
[1:11:04] need to know where we are on
[1:11:06] this I know we're going to
[1:11:08] have a separate meeting with the
[1:11:09] chamber. they're going to have a
[1:11:11] separate legislative meeting
[1:11:12] with all of its local
[1:11:13] legislators. I don't know if
[1:11:15] this will be an issue or not but
[1:11:16] I think it's important for the
[1:11:18] members of this committee as you
[1:11:18] see who who's here
[1:11:22] where do you guys stand on
[1:11:24] this? We don't we don't have to
[1:11:26] answer it today but we will need
[1:11:26] to know before the beginning of
[1:11:27] the session
[1:11:31] the other question I had is
[1:11:33] regarding the Navajo Gallup
[1:11:34] water supply project as the
[1:11:36] mayor knows, I have a long long
[1:11:39] history with that project and
[1:11:40] I'd like to ask
[1:11:43] is the proportional cost
[1:11:48] allocated to the s so the the
[1:11:50] cost of the pipeline. it's one
[1:11:50] project with two major pipelines
[1:11:54] so I'm curious is the hickoria
[1:11:55] site open now? iss it up and
[1:11:55] running?
[1:12:00] ma'am OK. so hickory is up and
[1:12:02] running because the state of New
[1:12:04] Mexico has put considerable
[1:12:07] money in this project as match
[1:12:08] you know we have the Indian
[1:12:10] water rights piece in the in the
[1:12:12] budget and we've put a lot of
[1:12:13] money through the New Mexico
[1:12:14] finance Authority through the
[1:12:16] waterterrust board through
[1:12:16] Capital outlay
[1:12:19] to try to offset the match
[1:12:21] that's required by the feds I
[1:12:23] know the city's match is75
[1:12:26] million but we have also tried
[1:12:29] to help with with state funds my
[1:12:32] my question is then have we
[1:12:33] resolved all the match
[1:12:34] requirement for
[1:12:40] madam chair andpresentative
[1:12:42] Lumstrom so the way that the
[1:12:44] project works is that there was
[1:12:47] a repayment contract required
[1:12:49] for hickoryia and for the city
[1:12:51] of Gallup but the biggest part
[1:12:52] of the whole project was the
[1:12:54] settlement amount of50 million
[1:12:56] dollars that the city that the
[1:12:56] state of New Mexico was to pay
[1:13:00] so all of the initial monies
[1:13:01] from the waterrust board there
[1:13:03] was actually some cash and some
[1:13:04] other grant monies that went
[1:13:05] into the project be it for
[1:13:08] actual capitalX projects or cash
[1:13:10] went to the state of New
[1:13:12] Mexico's portion and that was
[1:13:15] that was satisfied in about
[1:13:17] 2017. Since then the rest of the
[1:13:19] monies have been applied either
[1:13:21] to hickoria for their their cost
[1:13:22] what they call their obligation
[1:13:25] or or the city of gallups
[1:13:27] from what from what I understand
[1:13:28] everything on part of the
[1:13:30] hickorya has been satisfied and
[1:13:31] they are in some type of
[1:13:34] repayment contract to make
[1:13:36] sure they repay and thanks to
[1:13:38] all of our congressmen and the
[1:13:39] administ the current
[1:13:41] administration we have a76
[1:13:44] million dollars cost cap because
[1:13:46] of the delay the project went
[1:13:48] from about what we thought would
[1:13:50] be about1.1 billion it's almost
[1:13:51] over 2.3 and of course the
[1:13:52] city's port
[1:13:54] ion of that is is an average of
[1:13:59] about 8%. and so that's a lot
[1:14:01] of money for a town for a small
[1:14:03] town topa so we do have our cost
[1:14:06] gap and we have an any since the
[1:14:08] state's obligation has been met
[1:14:09] any monies that go into the
[1:14:11] Navajo Gallup project. so far we
[1:14:13] have another 8 million coming
[1:14:15] from waterrust board and we
[1:14:16] anticipate another 8 or10
[1:14:17] million for the pumping plant
[1:14:18] each will will be the final
[1:14:21] component of the city system we
[1:14:22] should get full credit for those
[1:14:22] and that'll go
[1:14:24] toward our76 million dollars
[1:14:26] match which should
[1:14:29] finalize all the city's money
[1:14:31] now we do have a loan
[1:14:33] obligations we did get through
[1:14:35] the waterrust board 6040 loans
[1:14:36] so we have about18 million
[1:14:39] dollars in loans we are repaying
[1:14:41] at a much lower percentage rate
[1:14:42] than the federal government the
[1:14:44] federal government's about4% the
[1:14:46] state of New Mexico is about 25%
[1:14:48] so it is a no brainer what we
[1:14:50] did on those so the only the
[1:14:51] only last piece of the puzzle
[1:14:54] is what they call interest
[1:14:56] during construction and that is
[1:14:59] a what this federal government
[1:15:01] charges all the participants
[1:15:03] during the construction portion
[1:15:05] of the project it's not interest
[1:15:06] on loan it's it's interest
[1:15:07] during construction so that
[1:15:09] component is the last thing that
[1:15:10] we are negotiating. We don't
[1:15:12] know if the76 million dollars
[1:15:14] includes the interest during
[1:15:15] construction I'm looking at
[1:15:16] Frank because he's the onen
[1:15:18] working on it or if it's gonna
[1:15:19] or if that's gonna be in charge
[1:15:20] to addition so that's the last
[1:15:21] component that we're worried
[1:15:22] about
[1:15:23] p re s ent ative Lunstrom
[1:15:26] so madam Chair, does that
[1:15:29] mean at least the city's
[1:15:32] responsibility of 676 million is
[1:15:35] resolved it's resolved except
[1:15:36] for the the interest or in
[1:15:38] construction and that interest
[1:15:40] would be at at a4% on the
[1:15:41] remaining components of
[1:15:44] construction which is about
[1:15:49] about $6600 million so that
[1:15:51] has not been resolved yet. We
[1:15:52] still need to with our repayment
[1:15:53] contract our revised re
[1:15:55] pa y ment contract come up with
[1:15:58] a plan and a formula of how we
[1:15:58] will be addressing the interest
[1:15:59] during construction
[1:16:01] and that an interest in
[1:16:02] construction is an elaborate
[1:16:05] thing that the federal
[1:16:06] government came up with 100
[1:16:07] years ago with the bureau of
[1:16:09] reclamation since they built the
[1:16:10] Hooveramm
[1:16:13] p re s ent ed Lonestrom if if I
[1:16:14] can add
[1:16:17] luckily we've minimized gallup's
[1:16:18] interest during
[1:16:22] we've
[1:16:22] we've
[1:16:23] prepaid
[1:16:28] most of ours so as as we get the
[1:16:30] waterru board as as we're
[1:16:32] building we're making those
[1:16:34] payments so they can't try to
[1:16:36] charge us interest when we're
[1:16:36] paying
[1:16:39] going through so we've
[1:16:42] minimized ours our component.
[1:16:45] So really126 million of that 2.1
[1:16:47] billion is going to be coming
[1:16:49] from either gallup or the state
[1:16:51] of New Mexico so I think when
[1:16:52] you look at the cost
[1:16:54] proportionate of the number of
[1:16:56] lines and such I think we're
[1:16:58] coming out pretty fair yeah
[1:16:59] we're coming up very fair.
[1:17:02] I I will speak for our
[1:17:04] surrounding area though we we
[1:17:06] really need to stay on the
[1:17:06] bureau of reclamation
[1:17:09] to ensure that the other
[1:17:10] portions you know we're always
[1:17:11] worried about gallup
[1:17:14] we needed to build pumping
[1:17:16] plant eight and we still need to
[1:17:19] build reach 2712 which goes
[1:17:20] through Caulpa hills and comes
[1:17:22] out by Redhill's mobilele
[1:17:23] Homeark that's the last
[1:17:24] components of gallup
[1:17:26] but but we still have going
[1:17:29] south we we've still got the
[1:17:30] RedRock chapter we've still got
[1:17:32] chielta resprings we have to
[1:17:35] think of our family members who
[1:17:36] live in the county who
[1:17:38] who are still as I said they're
[1:17:40] still gallup even though they
[1:17:42] don't live in the city limits we
[1:17:44] still consider him gallup. So,
[1:17:45] so we need to make sure that
[1:17:47] those are continuing and then of
[1:17:48] course we need to keep ensuring
[1:17:50] that IHs is going to be doing
[1:17:52] their component.'s great to have
[1:17:53] a water line but if it's not
[1:17:56] connected to a house that water
[1:17:56] line doesn't do any good
[1:18:00] so we're we're we're still
[1:18:02] stressing those we're still
[1:18:05] negotiating for we're we're
[1:18:06] going through with continuing
[1:18:06] resolutions every year
[1:18:10] they they still need to pony
[1:18:11] up the federal government needs
[1:18:12] to pony up that final
[1:18:15] to get the full project paid for
[1:18:16] it's not100% paid for at this
[1:18:17] date.
[1:18:20] they've got enough to satisfy
[1:18:21] the contracts that have been
[1:18:22] given this year
[1:18:23] but not those future
[1:18:27] as the southern component's
[1:18:28] going to our brothers and
[1:18:30] sisters south of Gallllup and
[1:18:30] those those components
[1:18:32] the money hasn't come up with
[1:18:33] yet
[1:18:35] so yes we can get water to
[1:18:36] gallup
[1:18:38] but can we get water to all
[1:18:42] those again this is a a rights
[1:18:42] water rights settlement
[1:18:46] gallup's very fortunate to be
[1:18:48] part of it but let's let's
[1:18:50] make sure it does what it's
[1:18:51] intended and and sometimes with
[1:18:53] the federal government we don't
[1:18:54] see that follow through so we
[1:18:56] want to continue lobbying and I
[1:18:58] would really love to think
[1:18:59] Representative Johnson
[1:19:01] andrerepresentative Luundstrom
[1:19:04] for earlier this year going to
[1:19:07] Dc and and helping us open doors
[1:19:10] to talk to the other legislature
[1:19:12] our federal legislators that
[1:19:13] we need to Luhan
[1:19:19] and and and heinrich being very
[1:19:21] instrumental in carrying the
[1:19:24] bills and pushing hard to ensure
[1:19:24] we got the cost cap
[1:19:25] plus
[1:19:29] other allocations to get that
[1:19:30] pumping plant bid out and
[1:19:30] started on construction
[1:19:33] so very big thank you to both of
[1:19:34] you for
[1:19:38] helping take some additional
[1:19:38] muscle up there
[1:19:42] they were our bodyguards on the
[1:19:43] street too
[1:19:45] madam Chair the reason I raised
[1:19:47] this is because if the project
[1:19:49] can't demonstrate beneficial use
[1:19:52] by actual people using it using
[1:19:54] the water we have problems in
[1:19:56] river City and what I mean is
[1:19:58] these chapters have to be part
[1:20:00] of this they are the reason
[1:20:01] we're getting this. it's an
[1:20:03] Indian water rights settlement
[1:20:04] without the chapters we ain't
[1:20:07] got a project. So I I think we
[1:20:08] got a whatever those hiccups
[1:20:12] are this is the right committee
[1:20:14] to hear that and I'd like to
[1:20:16] get something in writing from
[1:20:18] you Frank all of us would just
[1:20:20] so we know what we need to be
[1:20:21] talking about
[1:20:24] because we're we don't mind
[1:20:25] going back we don't mind
[1:20:26] fighting for this and
[1:20:29] working with the Navajo Nation
[1:20:30] and whoever but we got to know
[1:20:31] what we're fighting for and I
[1:20:33] think we have to demonstrate
[1:20:34] beneficial use and that means
[1:20:35] that these chapters need to be
[1:20:37] hooked up. Thank you madam
[1:20:39] Chair. Thank you Representative
[1:20:41] Lindstrom. and and and I will
[1:20:42] assure you north
[1:20:45] we have supported all the
[1:20:46] additional reaches. the reach
[1:20:50] going from down route 9 to
[1:20:52] Coyote Canyon sandingRock all
[1:20:55] the way to Crown pointint we we
[1:20:56] supported the reaches going from
[1:20:58] ya to hai to to Sebonito
[1:21:00] winnderrock we supported the
[1:21:03] ones closer to sheepsprings
[1:21:06] and and Nachiri going west to to
[1:21:09] the chapters off of491. of
[1:21:11] course all all of them down491.
[1:21:12] we've also supported going east
[1:21:15] down Padre CanyonRoad towards
[1:21:17] RedRock Park, ChurchRock,
[1:21:18] Yimbato we're we're ensuring
[1:21:20] that that water delivery is also
[1:21:22] there in the mechanisms
[1:21:24] they're talking now about
[1:21:25] addinguppton. I know it's going
[1:21:27] out of your jurisdiction but
[1:21:28] they're talking going west so
[1:21:30] that's part portion of yours
[1:21:33] through mintmore to the state
[1:21:35] line but then going on touppton
[1:21:38] and Sanders and and you know
[1:21:40] we've been very supportive of
[1:21:41] that also even even offering
[1:21:42] to take
[1:21:43] the land from
[1:21:47] yata ha going that way so you
[1:21:49] know we're supporting that I
[1:21:50] will say right now until this
[1:21:53] project is finished we're we're
[1:21:55] holding off doing full support
[1:21:57] for the western Navajo
[1:22:00] settlement it's a different
[1:22:04] river basin it and in arizona
[1:22:05] as you look at the western part
[1:22:08] of the arizona they're they're
[1:22:09] wanting water out of the
[1:22:10] Colorado and and of course
[1:22:13] that's the lower basin a lot
[1:22:14] more political you're now
[1:22:14] dealing with Nevada
[1:22:16] Montana
[1:22:22] Utah, Nevada arizona, or and and
[1:22:24] it's getting a lot more
[1:22:26] political where the upper basin
[1:22:27] we've already got our
[1:22:28] settlement. let's get it built
[1:22:31] and closed and then throw our
[1:22:32] support to to our brothers and
[1:22:36] sisters in in arizona. until
[1:22:38] then though againuppton that
[1:22:40] area we're throwing our support
[1:22:42] because it it's it's different
[1:22:43] they're in our watershed
[1:22:46] right now and and and we can
[1:22:46] prove that Gallup
[1:22:49] where our real perco goes it's
[1:22:50] going through their communities
[1:22:52] let's give them water so the one
[1:22:54] I'm really advocating for right
[1:22:55] now is we've got the north we've
[1:22:57] got the east west is just
[1:22:58] proposed at this date
[1:22:59] but South is on paper
[1:23:02] but we haven't seen any
[1:23:02] construction
[1:23:04] those are the ones that we're
[1:23:04] needing to stand up for
[1:23:08] and and that goes to the zuni
[1:23:10] watershed so you're looking at
[1:23:12] the chapters of ed rock read
[1:23:12] springs and Chichota.
[1:23:17] those three chapters we want to
[1:23:18] ensure that water is getting
[1:23:19] down there and I will say they
[1:23:20] will be ahead of the game as
[1:23:22] soon as this gets there because
[1:23:24] NTUA has a lot of those feeder
[1:23:24] routes already going.
[1:23:28] so as soon as we can supply
[1:23:30] additional water, those other
[1:23:30] homes can be added quicker
[1:23:36] thank youthing elseres
[1:23:38] representative just met madam
[1:23:39] chairir I just like to make sure
[1:23:40] that that we get something in
[1:23:42] writing before we have our big
[1:23:43] legislative meeting for the
[1:23:45] local legislators do you guys
[1:23:46] always do that for us in
[1:23:48] November or December the other
[1:23:49] thing is is that I wanted to ask
[1:23:50] Elo
[1:23:55] want to make sure these chapters
[1:23:57] are knowledgeable about what's
[1:23:58] going on. I mean we got to be in
[1:23:59] the game here
[1:24:02] thank you madam chair
[1:24:04] thank you madam chairir one nice
[1:24:04] to answer Representative
[1:24:05] Lunstrom's first question
[1:24:08] yes I'm I'm not gonna say no
[1:24:08] because debo hit me
[1:24:14] we have always actively pursued
[1:24:17] that extra tax again we are
[1:24:19] moving from seeing liquor
[1:24:21] addiction it's still a major
[1:24:23] issue we're starting to see more
[1:24:26] fentanyl meth, those type of
[1:24:28] addictions but we still have the
[1:24:30] alcohol and that alcohol tax
[1:24:32] does fund the other programs
[1:24:34] that are helping with the other
[1:24:36] addictions we see addiction
[1:24:37] as an addiction whether it's
[1:24:39] alcohol it it is a drug so that
[1:24:42] that extra million dollars
[1:24:44] that's coming in we can go
[1:24:47] beyond NCI the housing the
[1:24:50] intake the offers we can go more
[1:24:52] into treatment and and those
[1:24:54] type of things the the
[1:24:59] the year of transition type
[1:25:01] stuff that I was discussing we
[1:25:03] can do a lot more right now that
[1:25:04] first million is really just
[1:25:04] going to
[1:25:07] our initial programs of tracking
[1:25:12] offering services those type
[1:25:13] of things and of course NCI
[1:25:15] itself which is vital in our
[1:25:17] area but but an extra million
[1:25:18] dollars on top being financed by
[1:25:23] the drug itself it is is
[1:25:24] powerful now if you guys can get
[1:25:26] that more you know we're using
[1:25:27] our marijuana tax money for
[1:25:29] parks and recreation and
[1:25:30] prevention at the youth level
[1:25:36] and and it'll be amiss to say
[1:25:38] deb's groups have all been
[1:25:40] talking to us it's not just an
[1:25:43] added tax. it's limiting the
[1:25:44] number where it can come from
[1:25:48] and if that's possibility that
[1:25:50] would be wonderful too. We are
[1:25:51] seeing the outnumber of alcohol
[1:25:52] establishments in Gallup go
[1:25:52] down?
[1:25:55] but then we're seeing the
[1:25:57] recreational marijuana stuff
[1:26:01] exploding and and if we can get
[1:26:04] a balance amongst them all and
[1:26:04] and and more of a limit
[1:26:07] it it it helps our law
[1:26:11] enforcement with the the DWi or
[1:26:13] driving impaired again the
[1:26:14] more you spread it out
[1:26:16] the harder it is to track the
[1:26:17] harder it is to control and and
[1:26:23] those type of things so if if
[1:26:24] we can limit to where it's more
[1:26:25] manageable
[1:26:26] that would be a lot bigger help
[1:26:27] too
[1:26:30] thank you I have Representative
[1:26:31] Garcia
[1:26:36] thank you madam chair and
[1:26:38] colleagues on the Indian
[1:26:40] affairs committeetee I have a
[1:26:42] number of questions that I would
[1:26:43] like to ask. let me go ahead and
[1:26:45] ask all of them just so you can
[1:26:48] be able to respond to those
[1:26:51] he first of all I also want
[1:26:52] to support and
[1:26:56] say that we do need documents on
[1:26:58] the waterline issue that is
[1:27:02] happening you stated a number
[1:27:04] of numbers and data and
[1:27:07] whatever that that you have
[1:27:08] talked about but if you can put
[1:27:10] that in writing it would be
[1:27:12] easier for us to see what
[1:27:14] what has been made and what's
[1:27:16] what is still needed in those
[1:27:20] areas and a number of people
[1:27:22] and chapters and I guess
[1:27:22] population that
[1:27:26] ' s impacted and will benefit
[1:27:28] from this so if you can provide
[1:27:30] that to us as soon as possible
[1:27:31] like you've done with this
[1:27:32] emergency warming center
[1:27:37] with that what's what section
[1:27:39] of the city government is
[1:27:41] responsible for the emergency
[1:27:42] warming centre
[1:27:44] or was
[1:27:49] madam chair we were the fiscal
[1:27:50] agent
[1:27:50] for that through behavioral
[1:27:51] health
[1:27:58] and who was
[1:28:04] implementing the emergency
[1:28:05] center madam Chair
[1:28:07] Representative Garcia umallllup
[1:28:09] Community Health was the lead
[1:28:10] agency for the
[1:28:15] the implementation howard
[1:28:17] Johnson we rented the two
[1:28:19] ballrooms as a facility we also
[1:28:21] had gallup transnsit do the
[1:28:24] transportation out
[1:28:25] gallupunity antry donated some
[1:28:28] food so it was a well we all
[1:28:30] collaborated together to work on
[1:28:30] this
[1:28:34] and then workforce solutions
[1:28:35] officeice of housing gave us the
[1:28:38] emergency funding and how long
[1:28:40] has this been in operation?
[1:28:42] Madam Cha Representative Garcia
[1:28:44] this was only a pilot project
[1:28:45] just one year which is a
[1:28:51] not even it's like december 22
[1:28:52] through September 28hre
[1:28:52] representative 2.5
[1:29:00] this is just to address people
[1:29:01] that need a place during the
[1:29:02] winter
[1:29:06] but in the meantime we also are
[1:29:08] very much aware of that unho
[1:29:08] individuals within the city
[1:29:14] I'm aware of that these
[1:29:14] individuals
[1:29:19] are coming and going at various
[1:29:21] times but most of them continue
[1:29:22] to be within the city
[1:29:26] and I'm aware that these
[1:29:28] unhealth individual had
[1:29:30] established a camp down by the
[1:29:33] river by the railroad track but
[1:29:36] that has been cleaned out and
[1:29:38] they're no longer there I'm just
[1:29:39] wondering where did they go
[1:29:42] where where are they now that
[1:29:44] I'm sure there are other areas
[1:29:47] that they have been establishing
[1:29:48] and have been going to these
[1:29:49] places
[1:29:51] where are where are they now?
[1:29:55] madam chairir Representative
[1:29:57] Garcia, they do have different
[1:29:58] locations where they move
[1:30:01] throughout the city the city
[1:30:04] does do the camp cleanups
[1:30:06] they clean them up and they're
[1:30:08] back in those locations probably
[1:30:08] within a couple of weeks
[1:30:12] we do have a an independent
[1:30:14] shelter and a shelter at NI
[1:30:20] part of our population about43%
[1:30:22] of those are intakes for shelter
[1:30:24] so we do have that and then the
[1:30:26] independent livinggrame where
[1:30:28] they can come stay leave their
[1:30:31] stuff we do personal
[1:30:32] improvement plan with them we
[1:30:35] have them see a counselor and
[1:30:36] then we have them attend groups
[1:30:38] and then we even just got
[1:30:39] bikes recently so they can go
[1:30:40] look for
[1:30:44] so we have different shelter
[1:30:45] components in NCI
[1:30:51] I see that between December
[1:30:54] 22 and February 28h of this past
[1:30:59] year you have had 2971
[1:31:03] intakes but you were only 636
[1:31:06] were able to receive services
[1:31:10] and be able to utilize the
[1:31:12] warming center so looking at
[1:31:14] that on a yearround basis that
[1:31:16] would really probably triple it
[1:31:17] even more
[1:31:20] people that would be seeking
[1:31:24] services are just be just
[1:31:27] unhouse in the area what is the
[1:31:28] city doing to address that
[1:31:32] madam chairirpresentative Garcia
[1:31:34] we did see a decrease in our
[1:31:38] shelter population at NCI so we
[1:31:40] and we saw the increase at the
[1:31:41] warming shelter the warming
[1:31:42] shelter had
[1:31:46] more relaxed rules whereas
[1:31:48] the detox center it's a a little
[1:31:50] more strict so we've seen that
[1:31:52] population just go to the
[1:31:53] the warming
[1:31:58] I guess my my question is ok we
[1:32:01] have a number of individuals
[1:32:04] that are on house they they're
[1:32:05] here where everybody sees that
[1:32:09] what is the city doing besides
[1:32:11] doing the warming center center
[1:32:14] are depending on NCI what what
[1:32:16] are we doing to to assist and
[1:32:22] any programs anything that's
[1:32:22] being planned for them
[1:32:27] madam chairir Representative
[1:32:28] Garcia like again we're doing
[1:32:31] our our outreach where we're
[1:32:33] trying to make contact with them
[1:32:35] to to get to the root of the
[1:32:36] issues and refer them to
[1:32:41] agencies or programs that
[1:32:43] that will help them but
[1:32:45] again, a lot of these people
[1:32:46] don't want to go to the warming
[1:32:47] center
[1:32:47] because
[1:32:51] they cannot be using alcohol or
[1:32:52] drugs while in the warming
[1:32:52] center
[1:32:54] they don't want to go to NCI
[1:32:59] because if they are intoxicated
[1:33:01] and they have multiple they're
[1:33:03] having to spend longer time
[1:33:04] there and they don't want to
[1:33:06] they went out the next day
[1:33:07] they're looking for their next
[1:33:08] day's fix I hate to say
[1:33:11] so so we have a lot of these
[1:33:12] that are making a choice
[1:33:15] to be unhoused they're making
[1:33:16] that choice we can offer them
[1:33:17] services
[1:33:18] but
[1:33:22] again those services are clean
[1:33:23] to be clean to be getting help
[1:33:26] and and if they don't want that
[1:33:28] they
[1:33:32] they they're gonna live in the
[1:33:33] ditch they would prefer to live
[1:33:35] in the ditch they would be live
[1:33:37] on the side of a somebody's
[1:33:39] house those type of things
[1:33:43] they are adding a huge cost to
[1:33:45] our homeowners and business
[1:33:47] owners because if they're on
[1:33:49] private land state of New Mexico
[1:33:50] inki donations we cannot clean
[1:33:51] up
[1:33:53] if it's private land. So if they
[1:33:55] choose a a portion of a ditch
[1:33:56] that
[1:33:59] is in a business property we
[1:34:00] can't clean it up. law
[1:34:00] enforcement can move them along
[1:34:03] but we can't come in and clean
[1:34:06] it up. it it's a high expense. I
[1:34:08] will say a lot of programs are
[1:34:08] trying to help feed
[1:34:12] they are coming in we have a
[1:34:14] number of projects that that
[1:34:16] feed on a daily basis different
[1:34:18] areas of town and and then we
[1:34:19] have a couple of others that
[1:34:21] provide showers stuff like that
[1:34:22] we're just hoping they're doing
[1:34:24] those intakes and offering the
[1:34:24] help
[1:34:28] not just we feel good we fed you
[1:34:29] but more we're trying to guild
[1:34:30] your trust to get you into a
[1:34:31] program
[1:34:34] thank you for that information
[1:34:37] and madam chair my last
[1:34:41] question would be about the
[1:34:44] because I've I've I I'm aware
[1:34:47] of this experience the city
[1:34:49] employees or anyone that
[1:34:52] deals with the population
[1:34:55] that is unhoused or better known
[1:34:56] as homeless
[1:35:00] they come here and they you know
[1:35:01] they
[1:35:05] they are here because of their
[1:35:07] own problems issues whatever
[1:35:09] their they're here and working
[1:35:12] with one another and what are
[1:35:13] we
[1:35:17] doing any kind of training for
[1:35:18] these employees so they are
[1:35:21] sensitive to the situation and
[1:35:23] and they're not prejudiced
[1:35:25] against them and do what they
[1:35:29] can to help help them when
[1:35:33] when it comes to that do they
[1:35:35] receive specialized training
[1:35:39] to prevent discrimination or any
[1:35:42] kind of treatment for these
[1:35:43] individual I know it's really
[1:35:43] hard to
[1:35:47] tolerate and and deal with a
[1:35:48] situation
[1:35:52] because it's individual
[1:35:54] choices that have been made but
[1:35:56] they're still here and
[1:35:58] they're still part of become
[1:36:01] part of our community while back
[1:36:03] a while ago you said that even
[1:36:05] though the chapters south are
[1:36:08] not part of members of gallup
[1:36:11] but remember I come in about
[1:36:14] every week to pick up hay to
[1:36:16] pick up food and I become a
[1:36:18] member of gallup and contribute
[1:36:18] to to gallup
[1:36:21] ll up in whatever way possible
[1:36:23] even though I live in Ceepola
[1:36:27] County so based on that I
[1:36:30] just want to make sure that
[1:36:34] our people whoever they are re
[1:36:37] whether they'renavajozunni
[1:36:40] non natives that they receive a
[1:36:43] fair treatment and and not
[1:36:45] make fun of that's where I'm
[1:36:46] coming from
[1:36:49] madam chairir Representative
[1:36:51] Garcia we do have a grow our own
[1:36:53] program where we bring in
[1:36:55] counselors and we coach
[1:36:57] individuals into thehavi health
[1:36:59] field and then we take them out
[1:37:00] to do outreach and coach them
[1:37:02] how to interact we provide
[1:37:05] trauma informed care and we also
[1:37:07] have our evaluator come in and
[1:37:10] do a random fidelity checks with
[1:37:12] our groups our counselors and
[1:37:13] then we have them meet with
[1:37:15] young shelter to make sure that
[1:37:16] we are we are provi
[1:37:31] So I hope that it the
[1:37:35] training and working with these
[1:37:37] individuals goes all the way up
[1:37:39] and down from the mayor on down
[1:37:42] that that we do everything we
[1:37:45] can help because we we are
[1:37:47] responsible to our communities
[1:37:48] and our people
[1:37:53] thank you representative vice
[1:37:54] chairir Johnson
[1:37:58] thank you madam chairir. I would
[1:38:01] like to go back well let's go
[1:38:02] ahead and continue with the
[1:38:05] emergency warming center. do you
[1:38:08] have a cost a cost estimate
[1:38:08] or who took care of
[1:38:10] funding that program
[1:38:13] or how how did we fund it? Madam
[1:38:15] Chair Representative Johnson
[1:38:17] workforcelu
[1:38:19] gave us175,000
[1:38:23] I can say that was not enough a
[1:38:24] lot of these programs
[1:38:25] donated a lot
[1:38:30] Thank you and then
[1:38:33] can you give us an update on
[1:38:36] if any or
[1:38:41] for example, Navajo Nation or
[1:38:45] our surrounding neighbors
[1:38:46] tribal communities pueblo
[1:38:52] interest or assistance or
[1:38:54] support from them regarding
[1:39:00] this program and then I lost
[1:39:02] track of how we support NCI
[1:39:02] Thank you.
[1:39:05] madam chairirpresentative
[1:39:08] Johnson we received2 million
[1:39:08] dollars from IHs
[1:39:11] and that funds the majority
[1:39:13] operations of the detox center.
[1:39:17] We also receive 835,000 from the
[1:39:19] local liquor excise tax to fund
[1:39:20] the base services at NCI.
[1:39:24] and madam chairir
[1:39:27] senator, I mean
[1:39:29] senatorpresentative Johnson
[1:39:30] to expand that to we've we've
[1:39:32] just begun talks the mayor did
[1:39:36] talk with Presidentyren.
[1:39:38] he was very receptive and and
[1:39:39] looking at opening their
[1:39:41] treatment facility in Phoenix
[1:39:43] and and creating that type of
[1:39:44] part partnership
[1:39:44] council delegate
[1:39:46] Eray.
[1:39:50] Nelson if I remember right it
[1:39:52] has has actually talked with me
[1:39:53] and said you know these are our
[1:39:55] family members going to town.
[1:39:57] What help do they need to bring
[1:39:58] him home and and why aren't they
[1:40:00] being accepted at home was his
[1:40:00] biggest concern
[1:40:04] so so we are starting to see
[1:40:06] some threads starting to weave
[1:40:08] together of how can we work
[1:40:11] together it's slow and and and
[1:40:13] we'd love to see it getting
[1:40:15] deeper thicker thicker
[1:40:17] woven to where we're all
[1:40:19] working towards the same thing
[1:40:20] cause yes they are coming from
[1:40:22] surrounding areas like
[1:40:24] Representative Garcia said but
[1:40:25] we consider us all
[1:40:30] from the same area so however
[1:40:30] we can work with these other
[1:40:34] legislative bodies. I mean
[1:40:36] sovereign sovereignty to to
[1:40:38] other groups and other areas we
[1:40:39] we would love to to come
[1:40:40] together
[1:40:42] so madam vice chair and
[1:40:48] so I just recently last week
[1:40:50] went through because with a a
[1:40:50] company or
[1:40:53] the behavioral health people
[1:40:56] that working that are working
[1:40:57] with thenavajo nation that do
[1:40:58] have a contract with the Navajo
[1:41:00] Nation now operating in arizona
[1:41:02] so it's trying to bring them
[1:41:04] here to New Mexico so that was
[1:41:06] just beginning discussions just
[1:41:08] had a real good meeting last
[1:41:10] week a lot a lot
[1:41:15] to do that we don't have but
[1:41:17] I do caution to that they they
[1:41:19] do have like veterans facilities
[1:41:20] too and all kinds of
[1:41:22] but we'll talk more about that
[1:41:23] but there there is something
[1:41:24] going on right now
[1:41:29] OK thank you. I I was wondering
[1:41:30] maybe we could entertain if we
[1:41:32] don't already have a
[1:41:35] multidisciplinary team or group
[1:41:36] or committee within our
[1:41:40] county or city and the reason
[1:41:43] why I say that is because I work
[1:41:46] at the hospital and we have the
[1:41:46] same types of
[1:41:50] patients constituents
[1:41:53] individuals some of them driving
[1:41:56] across the state one way or the
[1:41:59] other getting stranded after an
[1:42:00] emergency room treatment
[1:42:04] our own folks having no place to
[1:42:06] go after discharge, having no
[1:42:08] transportation after discharge
[1:42:12] and then our referrals are NCI
[1:42:14] and you know where else wherever
[1:42:18] else we can find help even
[1:42:20] having to call the chaptershojo
[1:42:24] so just the thought and then
[1:42:27] my other question is about
[1:42:28] the water line
[1:42:32] I represent Eastern Agency so
[1:42:36] the water line from standingRock
[1:42:39] to Crown Point and that reach I
[1:42:41] am advocating for. I understand
[1:42:43] there's a10 million dollars
[1:42:45] shortfall? do you know anything
[1:42:47] about that or the specifics?
[1:42:48] Thank you.
[1:42:52] madam chairir Representative
[1:42:54] Johnson, I'm not too sure
[1:42:55] exactly what the10 million
[1:42:56] dollars is. I know there's a
[1:42:58] bunch of different
[1:43:00] projects that came out of that
[1:43:01] main line that went from that
[1:43:02] went along the was that 99
[1:43:06] they're and it might be
[1:43:07] something that they're they're
[1:43:09] gonna try to get state funding
[1:43:10] for and it might be just
[1:43:12] tributary off the main line but
[1:43:14] I'm not too aware I know the
[1:43:16] whole project has about a500
[1:43:17] million dollars shortfall right
[1:43:18] now which Frank talked about
[1:43:20] which needs and it's and and it
[1:43:20] might be included in that
[1:43:23] thank you
[1:43:26] and just want to thank you
[1:43:28] for your presentation and you
[1:43:31] know as well as I do that
[1:43:32] water lines to our homes is very
[1:43:35] important. I have both
[1:43:36] experiences. I live in the city
[1:43:39] of Gallup but I also have a
[1:43:41] homestead about 20 miles
[1:43:42] northeast of here and
[1:43:45] I had an incident hauling water
[1:43:46] for my trees so
[1:43:53] re s ent ed thank you madam
[1:43:54] chairir.
[1:43:56] thank you madam vice chair.
[1:43:59] Representative roybalcaballero
[1:44:02] thank you madam chair and thank
[1:44:05] you for your presentations. I
[1:44:07] thank you topresentative Garcia
[1:44:08] and others for raising their
[1:44:09] questions because they covered
[1:44:11] most of what I wanted. So I'm
[1:44:12] going to zero in on just a few
[1:44:13] things
[1:44:16] in terms of the intake and I'm
[1:44:18] raising these questions because
[1:44:18] I
[1:44:22] in my previous career I'm
[1:44:24] clinical social worker dealing
[1:44:26] with substance and alcohol abuse
[1:44:28] individuals and families
[1:44:31] needs and so it's important to
[1:44:33] me to get these type of
[1:44:35] questions out. so in the intake
[1:44:37] process and the only information
[1:44:39] I have is relevant to what you
[1:44:40] passed out here in terms of the
[1:44:43] emergency warming center when
[1:44:47] intake and it applies to NCI and
[1:44:48] wherever else intake is done
[1:44:52] what is the professional
[1:44:54] preparation of the persons that
[1:44:54] are doing the intake.
[1:44:56] that's question one
[1:45:02] madam chairirpresentative
[1:45:05] roybalcaballero sorry
[1:45:10] when we did the the emergency
[1:45:12] shelter Gallllupunity Health had
[1:45:14] a one on one training and all
[1:45:15] day training and they did
[1:45:17] hire people who had shelter
[1:45:20] experience and worked with
[1:45:23] the unsheltered one of them did
[1:45:25] the burrito project who was the
[1:45:26] manager who holds
[1:45:30] Monthly events for the
[1:45:31] unsheltered and offers them
[1:45:33] showers and things like that so
[1:45:35] a lot of the the individuals who
[1:45:38] were hired had training or
[1:45:40] experience within that and then
[1:45:42] our intake process this was a
[1:45:42] little different
[1:45:46] we didn't have it so much
[1:45:48] clinical at the emergency
[1:45:50] warming shelter but at the the
[1:45:52] detox center we do have a
[1:45:54] counselor who does the expert
[1:45:56] screening with them and then we
[1:45:57] try and get them into treatment
[1:45:59] once they're discharged the
[1:46:00] numbers that were given within
[1:46:03] those 1000 we're only with the
[1:46:05] twelvehour holds that are
[1:46:06] discharged
[1:46:07] Monday through Friday.
[1:46:11] thank you so madam chair the the
[1:46:13] whole point about intake in
[1:46:14] general just the intake in
[1:46:17] general and why the preparation
[1:46:18] of those that are taking intake
[1:46:20] is so critically important is
[1:46:22] based on all the issues that you
[1:46:24] all described madam chairir. and
[1:46:27] that is that we have
[1:46:28] individuals that
[1:46:33] alcohol substance abuse
[1:46:35] mental health, s possible
[1:46:38] medical issues as well and so
[1:46:40] the intake process is not just a
[1:46:42] process of taking an application
[1:46:45] or interviewing it's a what I
[1:46:49] would view an indepth look at
[1:46:51] the person who's sitting in
[1:46:53] front of you in depth and
[1:46:54] looking at that person madam
[1:46:57] chair holistically to try to get
[1:46:58] to the root the whole idea for
[1:46:58] all of us
[1:47:02] is to get to the root causes of
[1:47:03] why we're seeing these kinds of
[1:47:10] symptoms and and reliance on
[1:47:11] or lack of reliance on on self
[1:47:16] so I I would stress that that
[1:47:20] the intake process in general
[1:47:21] where whether it's in the
[1:47:23] warming center or whether it's
[1:47:26] an NCI or wherever it happens it
[1:47:27] really is the place where you
[1:47:29] have the actual professional
[1:47:34] preparation and you you have a
[1:47:36] lot of resources here or in
[1:47:37] the neighboring areas with
[1:47:40] universities I know that
[1:47:43] there's student interns work
[1:47:46] work experience that are already
[1:47:47] in their3rd and4th year those
[1:47:50] are perfect places for this
[1:47:55] placements intake. So I would
[1:47:56] just
[1:47:59] I think we're all trying to get
[1:48:00] at a comprehensive approach to
[1:48:02] try to resolve these problems.
[1:48:05] and aspresentative Garcia
[1:48:06] mentioned we have an obligation
[1:48:09] these are our people we have
[1:48:11] an obligation to make sure we do
[1:48:12] this so we don't want madam
[1:48:14] chairir individuals a revolving
[1:48:15] door we want
[1:48:20] an end to this and so how we get
[1:48:22] to that is by trying to look at
[1:48:24] the whole person, the whole
[1:48:27] family and then try to reach the
[1:48:28] root causes so that
[1:48:33] it was mentioned several times
[1:48:36] that that the these are
[1:48:39] choices that are being made by
[1:48:40] these individuals to go back
[1:48:41] to the
[1:48:45] it
[1:48:49] it's not necessarily a choice
[1:48:52] it's how they see themselves
[1:48:55] relative to society in general
[1:48:57] and there's no place for these
[1:49:00] persons. there's no place there
[1:49:02] there and so there's a reason
[1:49:02] why
[1:49:06] we use different terminology
[1:49:07] we're moving away from
[1:49:08] homelessness we're now trying to
[1:49:11] move away from unhoused in the
[1:49:13] arena of social work and
[1:49:14] casework because
[1:49:19] we we can't take an attitude
[1:49:22] or perspective or
[1:49:26] or a prejudice in any form or
[1:49:27] fashion and then
[1:49:31] by by stating that it's their
[1:49:34] choice. Yes, they may go back
[1:49:35] but there's a reason why they're
[1:49:36] going back
[1:49:38] and I I would strongly
[1:49:42] look at taking a comprehensive
[1:49:45] approach one stop, share the
[1:49:46] resources that are available
[1:49:49] under one roof and then be able
[1:49:51] to address those needs
[1:49:53] uhpresentative vice chairir
[1:49:54] Johnson mentioned the medical
[1:49:56] the hospital there's medical
[1:49:58] institutions here they need
[1:49:58] to be
[1:50:02] involved because we don't we
[1:50:03] don't know what the medical, uh,
[1:50:06] wellbeing of that person is or
[1:50:09] or the family or the children so
[1:50:11] I I just encourage you to kind
[1:50:12] of move away from
[1:50:18] treating the intake process as
[1:50:20] just an filling out forms
[1:50:22] process and looking at it from a
[1:50:25] more indepth comprehensive
[1:50:28] way and that so one final
[1:50:29] question and you may not be able
[1:50:30] to answer that madam chairir
[1:50:32] right now but I'd like to
[1:50:35] know what the percentage all the
[1:50:36] funding that you mentioned that
[1:50:39] has been coming in either
[1:50:40] through the federal or however
[1:50:41] else the all the other funding
[1:50:44] what percentage goes directly to
[1:50:45] direct service and what
[1:50:47] percentage goes to
[1:50:48] administration. I know that
[1:50:52] there are limits by funding
[1:50:53] sources in terms of
[1:50:54] administration but I'd be
[1:50:56] curious to see how much is
[1:50:57] actually going into direct
[1:51:01] service and then the longevity
[1:51:04] of of the service you you
[1:51:05] kind of address it
[1:51:10] in just this warming center but
[1:51:12] I think in general it would
[1:51:14] help to be able to look at
[1:51:16] how long
[1:51:21] why they're not staying the
[1:51:22] questions should be asked why
[1:51:24] did they come to gallup in the
[1:51:25] first place
[1:51:25] and what are they seeking when
[1:51:28] and then
[1:51:33] a lot of questions there's a lot
[1:51:35] of questions we need to ask but
[1:51:37] anyway, madam chair if you
[1:51:39] can answer that right now that's
[1:51:40] fine. I don't want to take too
[1:51:41] much more time but if you can
[1:51:43] provide that to the film I mean
[1:51:44] to the committee that would be
[1:51:45] helpful. Thank you.
[1:51:48] madam chairir, umpresentativeRoy
[1:51:50] Ball umabbriero
[1:51:54] we didn't take any funding from
[1:51:55] the emergency shelter that went
[1:51:58] all directly this was a pilot
[1:52:00] project and we wanted to have it
[1:52:03] low barrier so that included
[1:52:05] not as many questions during the
[1:52:06] intake process because we didn't
[1:52:08] want to screen anybody out at
[1:52:11] the beginning and then for the
[1:52:14] other funding the IHS funding
[1:52:15] it funds my salary and another
[1:52:17] employee and we go I'm the
[1:52:19] program manager and we only have
[1:52:20] two staff in our behavioral
[1:52:21] health to imp
[1:52:23] le ment the services that
[1:52:24] detox the rest is contracted it
[1:52:25] out.
[1:52:28] thank you madam chairir and
[1:52:31] and so there's no other intake
[1:52:34] process that occurs outside of
[1:52:34] the warming center
[1:52:36] don't you have an intake process
[1:52:39] at NTI also madam chairir yes
[1:52:41] that's different with a a
[1:52:43] licensed counselor OK thank you
[1:52:44] madam chair thank you
[1:52:47] thank you thank youpresentative
[1:52:49] um'm very excited to have the
[1:52:51] people I talked to talk to you
[1:52:52] guys because they take care of
[1:52:53] everything from the intake all
[1:52:55] the way to the resources it's
[1:52:57] just really dynamic even the
[1:52:59] court orders it was very very
[1:53:03] ' m very jealous but senator
[1:53:04] Charlie
[1:53:07] thank you madam chair and thank
[1:53:09] you presenters for being here
[1:53:10] this morning and for the work
[1:53:11] you're doing to take care of
[1:53:13] your community. the first
[1:53:15] question I had was of the
[1:53:17] clients who came into the
[1:53:18] worming center were any of those
[1:53:18] children?
[1:53:25] Madam chair on the corner we
[1:53:26] had
[1:53:32] six families and18 adults thank
[1:53:32] you thank you
[1:53:35] and then it was mentioned
[1:53:38] earlier that graduates of the
[1:53:41] detox program weren't able to go
[1:53:42] home because of cost two part
[1:53:44] question is is there a
[1:53:45] willingness to go home to
[1:53:47] participants want to go home and
[1:53:50] is it just is it a a barrier is
[1:53:51] it a cost barrier to get them
[1:53:52] home if
[1:53:57] madam chair senator umarrlie
[1:54:00] a lot of these individuals have
[1:54:03] family dynamics where they've
[1:54:05] drank a lot and the family
[1:54:08] doesn't want him home so it's
[1:54:10] about building those bridges
[1:54:12] we've had instances where
[1:54:14] people want bus pass we do offer
[1:54:15] them bus passes if they want to
[1:54:18] go home and we offer them the
[1:54:21] ability to call their family
[1:54:22] to let them know they're at
[1:54:24] detox. Most don't take them
[1:54:27] up on that offer and if they
[1:54:28] do not live in
[1:54:30] gallup we do offer them a bus
[1:54:31] pass or train ticket if they
[1:54:33] want to return home. OK thank
[1:54:35] you and then the next question
[1:54:37] is about your last slide here
[1:54:41] the NCI intake the breakdown
[1:54:43] of numbers doesn't tell me how
[1:54:45] many participants that is is
[1:54:47] that the total 2971 or is that a
[1:54:48] different total?
[1:54:53] the total on that is1006
[1:54:57] this is for NCI not for the
[1:54:59] warming clinic and this is only
[1:55:02] for the tw2 hour hold. so those
[1:55:04] individuals that came in they
[1:55:07] blew a.20 1 zeroed out we
[1:55:09] have to meet with a counselor
[1:55:11] offer them services if they're
[1:55:13] interested in treatment we do a
[1:55:15] warm handoff to four corners or
[1:55:17] even Albuquerque, Las Cruces
[1:55:19] wherever they want to go and we
[1:55:20] coordinate with medicaid to do
[1:55:23] transport. thank you and then
[1:55:24] I didn't get a comprehensive
[1:55:25] picture
[1:55:28] of the total cost. there's
[1:55:29] not a budget associated with the
[1:55:31] emergency warming center is
[1:55:33] it175,000 plus inkind donations
[1:55:35] repres us
[1:55:39] madam chair senator Charlie yes
[1:55:41] and do you have a breakdown of
[1:55:42] what those inkind donation
[1:55:42] totals are
[1:55:43] I don't
[1:55:47] in thinking about a potential
[1:55:49] fiscal agent that those are the
[1:55:51] questions that I'm thinking
[1:55:53] about right who can sustain a
[1:55:55] program of this budget. I mean
[1:55:56] you've said that the city would
[1:55:57] be willing to be a fiscal agent.
[1:56:01] do you have potential entities
[1:56:02] ready to step in and continue
[1:56:03] the program?
[1:56:09] Gallllupun madam chairir,
[1:56:11] Senator Charlie Gel Community
[1:56:13] Health has shared interest with
[1:56:14] wanting to continue they
[1:56:15] actually wanted to do a cooling
[1:56:16] center this summer just
[1:56:18] it got cool before we got to it
[1:56:22] it's it's already getting nippy
[1:56:25] falls falls here so so we've
[1:56:26] already got Gallup Community
[1:56:28] Health and and several other
[1:56:31] entities wanting to again it
[1:56:34] comes down to having the
[1:56:34] backbone which came from
[1:56:38] that175,000
[1:56:42] something like that to to get it
[1:56:43] going and then they're in income
[1:56:46] can sustain for a short period
[1:56:48] of time but without the infuse
[1:56:49] of that original money
[1:56:52] not even the city of Gallup
[1:56:54] has the the capacity right now.
[1:56:55] Sure thank you madam Chair.
[1:56:58] so this it sounded like it was
[1:57:00] an emergency grant. are there
[1:57:01] funds available? Are you working
[1:57:02] with the
[1:57:07] allocations through Senate Bill3
[1:57:09] or other potential funding
[1:57:16] madam chair senator Charlie
[1:57:19] we do have a housing program
[1:57:21] manager and since then I've kind
[1:57:22] of kicked that off because
[1:57:22] housing's not my
[1:57:27] my specialty but I know that
[1:57:29] we did talk to workforce
[1:57:31] Solutions about putting out a
[1:57:34] grant instead of giving it to
[1:57:36] a municipality and letting other
[1:57:38] individuals apply so they can
[1:57:41] assess their own costs and needs
[1:57:42] associated with the warming
[1:57:44] shelters and I know there was an
[1:57:46] RFP but I'm not sure if anybody
[1:57:47] applied for it locally
[1:57:50] thank you madam chairir. I don't
[1:57:51] know if you could do it less
[1:57:54] expensive than175,000 dollars
[1:57:55] quite honestly for that amount
[1:57:57] of time that's about50,000
[1:58:00] dollars a month which is for the
[1:58:01] the amount of individuals that
[1:58:04] you're interacting with. I
[1:58:04] don't know if that's possible
[1:58:05] but
[1:58:08] thank you that that concludes my
[1:58:10] my questions madam chairir I'll
[1:58:11] just say this one last thing I
[1:58:12] read an interesting article
[1:58:14] recently about harm reduction
[1:58:19] policies and how major
[1:58:21] metropolitan areas are rolling
[1:58:22] back their harm reduction
[1:58:24] policies but also to include
[1:58:27] mandatory treatment for the
[1:58:29] reasons that were mentioned and
[1:58:31] when mandatory treatment is
[1:58:33] required of those individuals
[1:58:34] who come into contact with the
[1:58:35] system recidivism
[1:58:39] decreases and so I think it's an
[1:58:41] interesting intersection for
[1:58:45] us to explore while we're making
[1:58:46] decisions about treatment
[1:58:48] facilities into the future.
[1:58:48] thank you madam chairir.
[1:58:52] and I would like to mention that
[1:58:53] these guys actually do the
[1:58:55] workforce development when they
[1:58:56] do the intake right when the
[1:58:57] people are in the program like
[1:59:00] as soon as they can handle it
[1:59:01] and get them going so it's not
[1:59:02] till after they
[1:59:04] ter ing
[1:59:08] p re s ent ative Abeda, thank
[1:59:08] you Senator Charlie.
[1:59:11] thank you thank you presenters
[1:59:13] and senator Charlie you lead me
[1:59:14] right into my questions
[1:59:16] beautifully thank you in regards
[1:59:18] to the mandatory treatment for
[1:59:19] both NCI or excuse me the
[1:59:22] nonmandatory treatment for NCI
[1:59:24] are you keeping any
[1:59:26] information about tribal court
[1:59:26] versus non tribal court?
[1:59:33] madam chair umre representative
[1:59:36] Abeda we just keep the
[1:59:37] commitment where they're
[1:59:39] committed from so only a law
[1:59:40] enforcement officer and a
[1:59:42] medical provider can commit him
[1:59:44] into NCI and we do have that
[1:59:47] data. Great OK. where are you
[1:59:48] seeing more of the commitments
[1:59:48] coming from
[1:59:53] umgpd I think it's 95% are
[1:59:54] coming from Galluplice
[2:00:01] I can get you that exact
[2:00:02] breakdown
[2:00:04] OK thank you madam chair thank
[2:00:06] you presenters. The reason
[2:00:08] why I ask is I agree with
[2:00:09] Senator Charlie in the article
[2:00:11] written that mandatory treatment
[2:00:12] does have an impact and it does
[2:00:15] help. but I wanted to see if
[2:00:17] that was if we were seeing
[2:00:20] mandatory treatment commitments
[2:00:22] from tribal courts as well
[2:00:25] because for my experience that
[2:00:27] NCI is one of the only local
[2:00:28] places that they can
[2:00:37] do not go to NCI then they're
[2:00:38] sent out of state they're sent
[2:00:39] to facilities that are much
[2:00:40] further
[2:00:45] u ll recovery because the
[2:00:46] curriculum's either not
[2:00:50] culturally responsive to them or
[2:00:52] just the distance alone and
[2:00:53] then coming back into the same
[2:00:54] environment that coping
[2:00:56] mechanisms are just not there.
[2:00:58] So I want I would love to see
[2:01:01] those two issues because my I
[2:01:05] am moving towards more
[2:01:07] collaboration with courts and
[2:01:08] also the law school about
[2:01:11] addressing needs for our legal
[2:01:12] desert in
[2:01:15] this is Albuquerque west all the
[2:01:22] the next question I had was
[2:01:24] in the in the curriculum I know
[2:01:26] you said that they go through a
[2:01:27] program that they can finish. Do
[2:01:28] you know if there's a life
[2:01:30] skills component in that
[2:01:32] curriculum and the life skills
[2:01:34] component would be how to find a
[2:01:36] home or building a resume job
[2:01:39] application or having a support
[2:01:40] for
[2:01:42] relapse prevention is that part
[2:01:43] of the curriculum
[2:01:49] madam chairirpresentative Obea
[2:01:51] we do have people come into
[2:01:52] NCI and do groups from
[2:01:55] umorkforce solutions that they
[2:01:57] do provide the job
[2:01:58] application a lot of these
[2:02:01] people are just coming off of
[2:02:04] having abAc of.20 so we have to
[2:02:08] repeat those and and work slowly
[2:02:10] with this population because a
[2:02:12] lot of them have been unhoused
[2:02:14] and unsheltered for a while
[2:02:15] we've had
[2:02:17] in the independent living we've
[2:02:20] had success with working with
[2:02:22] them to get jobs and then
[2:02:24] providing the bikes to get to
[2:02:27] employment it takes some time
[2:02:29] to get him into a routine
[2:02:30] because we do give them chores
[2:02:32] we kind of have like a house
[2:02:34] manager within that shelter and
[2:02:36] they all take turns it's it's
[2:02:37] been really nice to see and
[2:02:40] we're looking at implementing a
[2:02:42] a contingency management program
[2:02:44] where we increase the rewards
[2:02:45] for the positive behavior
[2:02:48] so we don't have that
[2:02:49] necessarily
[2:02:53] curriculum of life skills but we
[2:02:54] have them work with a peer
[2:02:54] support to guide them through a
[2:02:55] lot of this.
[2:02:57] thank you madam chair thank you
[2:03:01] my last question is about
[2:03:03] family support I've been on
[2:03:07] the side of family where you are
[2:03:09] helpless, hopeless about how you
[2:03:11] can support your loved one. a
[2:03:12] lot of times we've heard it on
[2:03:13] this committee that when you
[2:03:16] come into gallup you see our
[2:03:17] relatives on the streets you see
[2:03:19] them in certain areas you can't
[2:03:20] help but wonder where is their
[2:03:20] family
[2:03:24] but is there a service or is
[2:03:26] there a resource is there a
[2:03:27] hotline? what do we have for
[2:03:29] families and I ask this too
[2:03:31] because so often even in my
[2:03:33] home community when I ask
[2:03:35] students or kids from the
[2:03:36] neighborhood, you know where's
[2:03:37] your mom? how's your mom? how's
[2:03:38] your dad? how's your uncle
[2:03:40] they haven't been home they're
[2:03:42] on the streets and so the
[2:03:44] kids worry just as much for
[2:03:45] their relatives that are out
[2:03:47] there grandma's grandpa's
[2:03:49] worry about their children their
[2:03:50] nephews their nieces their
[2:03:52] grandchildren who are out there.
[2:03:53] do we have a resource set up to
[2:03:56] help families who are going
[2:03:56] through this and if if not what
[2:03:57] are your thoughts on that?
[2:04:02] madam chairirpresentative Abeda,
[2:04:04] that is a huge need in our
[2:04:06] community we do offer them the
[2:04:08] right to call and connect with
[2:04:09] their family member if that's
[2:04:11] what they choose and we are
[2:04:12] willing to do counseling
[2:04:14] sessions with the family we just
[2:04:17] haven't had any one take us up
[2:04:18] on that and probably a couple of
[2:04:19] years
[2:04:21] but it is well needed
[2:04:25] OK thank you that's madam chair
[2:04:26] and Councilor Bata one of the
[2:04:28] problems we do have to in gallup
[2:04:28] we have mothers grandmothers
[2:04:29] coming
[2:04:31] to visiting me as the mayor and
[2:04:32] say my 12 year old
[2:04:33] is on cannabis
[2:04:37] and we can't we don't know what
[2:04:38] to do and that's one of the
[2:04:39] problems we need to start
[2:04:40] looking into is those gateway
[2:04:41] drugs I don't know if they call
[2:04:43] it a gateway drug but when these
[2:04:45] young kids10,111el years old are
[2:04:47] doing our vaping cannabis you
[2:04:48] can't tell it you it's it's not
[2:04:50] visible and we're gonna have to
[2:04:51] start addressing that really
[2:04:53] soon because I think that's
[2:04:54] the gateway that's starting the
[2:04:54] problems
[2:05:01] OK
[2:05:03] we know that and we thank you
[2:05:04] very much
[2:05:07] the place I visited was the yeah
[2:05:09] this condehohoienter in Phoenix,
[2:05:10] Arizona
[2:05:13] and everything you're talking
[2:05:14] about all these
[2:05:16] I mean you needing somebody to
[2:05:17] do this you're talking about the
[2:05:20] curriculum the intake they
[2:05:21] handle all of it closed loop
[2:05:24] system with resources and so
[2:05:25] they have a better idea of what
[2:05:28] we're spending on on it in
[2:05:30] that whole loop so I'm very very
[2:05:33] excited to to introduce them to
[2:05:35] you and get them going here in
[2:05:37] New Mexico just to build the
[2:05:40] foundation that is very it
[2:05:41] just really blew my mind how
[2:05:43] much they really listened to the
[2:05:44] community of the
[2:05:46] people that were coming in and
[2:05:48] the barriers that were there I
[2:05:49] understand we still have a
[2:05:51] barrier with transportation of
[2:05:53] getting them there to the
[2:05:54] treatment center especially when
[2:05:56] you talk about tribal court
[2:05:58] so we're talking about hubs
[2:06:00] within the Navajo nation where
[2:06:02] we're because we see this with
[2:06:04] the MMIP is that they say I'm
[2:06:04] gonna go get treatment they
[2:06:05] leave here
[2:06:06] then they don't make it there
[2:06:09] so like we need you to take
[2:06:11] place for them to go see well
[2:06:12] and want treatment get them to a
[2:06:13] safe place here maybe the
[2:06:15] chapter and then actually have
[2:06:17] that transportation safely down
[2:06:19] there so we do know where where
[2:06:21] that they did get there and
[2:06:22] handling the intake really
[2:06:24] knowing caseworkers are there
[2:06:26] all under one roof. it is just
[2:06:26] very
[2:06:29] they're doing well and hoping
[2:06:31] we're really getting ready to do
[2:06:32] something here in Albuquerque
[2:06:34] very quickly as they have talked
[2:06:34] to Albuquerque already so very
[2:06:38] been excited to have bring them
[2:06:39] to see talk to you ma'am where
[2:06:42] is it located in phoenix? It is
[2:06:44] I don't know. I went to probably
[2:06:47] 6 different facilities within a
[2:06:49] day and a half so there's more
[2:06:51] than one they had the veterans
[2:06:54] outreach and then they had
[2:06:55] housing they had 200 units for
[2:06:57] veterans down there in which
[2:06:59] they I was just really blown
[2:07:00] away about how many units they
[2:07:02] have and even getting them
[2:07:04] through the 9ty day that they
[2:07:04] actually don't tell the person
[2:07:08] well we only can fund you for 60
[2:07:10] days or you're only here for30.
[2:07:11] They actually tried to make sure
[2:07:12] they're all the way for the
[2:07:13] night0 whatever's
[2:07:16] cut by medicaid or whatever
[2:07:19] nation takes care of the rest so
[2:07:21] I'm just really even the
[2:07:23] court ordered they have that
[2:07:25] whole judicial part too where
[2:07:26] they probation and
[2:07:31] reinvented or redid these
[2:07:34] buildings old hospitals senior
[2:07:36] centers and repurposed them and
[2:07:38] it really meant the needs of the
[2:07:40] area and even with our Navajo
[2:07:42] facility that'snavajo
[2:07:43] Nationowned has anavajo nation
[2:07:45] flag outside down there is
[2:07:47] pretty new and even with the
[2:07:48] hydration
[2:07:53] and all right there in that area
[2:07:58] and they provide transportation
[2:08:00] to the doctors and all that for
[2:08:01] the people that are in there so
[2:08:05] keep my fingers crossed that we
[2:08:08] get it going here you know yes
[2:08:10] madam chair'd like to go back to
[2:08:11] uhpresentative Betas
[2:08:15] on on the mandatory seeing very
[2:08:16] few of our judges
[2:08:19] require mandatory treatment
[2:08:20] unless they're dealing
[2:08:22] unless they're dealers
[2:08:26] if they're addicted and they're
[2:08:27] dealing drugs and they're being
[2:08:29] sentenced to prison or something
[2:08:31] like that then they're getting
[2:08:33] some rehab within that but just
[2:08:35] our common users in an
[2:08:37] example we we had a a person
[2:08:38] down on Cole Street
[2:08:41] heavily induced with drugs throw
[2:08:43] a rock through a local business
[2:08:45] window was caught, goes through
[2:08:47] the court and and a week later
[2:08:48] I'm I'm getting a call from here
[2:08:50] because he's in the back parking
[2:08:51] lot
[2:08:52] out of his mind
[2:08:57] nonresponsive they're
[2:08:58] they're they're already back on
[2:08:59] the street so so I don't see our
[2:09:02] courts here for people who are
[2:09:06] heavily are are former DA was
[2:09:07] they're not competent to stand
[2:09:08] trial
[2:09:12] so they're not even gonna press
[2:09:12] charges and get to the judge
[2:09:16] so so that is what we're seeing
[2:09:18] the noncompetency and if
[2:09:19] you're not competent you don't
[2:09:20] go to court you don't go to
[2:09:20] court you don't get committed
[2:09:25] we can refer and and try to
[2:09:27] get them to these these programs
[2:09:29] but then again if we're
[2:09:30] referring and we actually get
[2:09:31] them in the door have enough
[2:09:32] trust and get them in the door
[2:09:33] they're not staying
[2:09:36] they they might get through that
[2:09:37] initial detox
[2:09:40] and then I'm leaving there
[2:09:42] there's and there's nothing to
[2:09:43] stop them legally and and that's
[2:09:44] what we're running into. if
[2:09:44] I'm not mistaken arizona
[2:09:46] has a mandatory commitment
[2:09:50] I know the governor tried doing
[2:09:51] that in a special session a
[2:09:53] couple years ago I believe. She
[2:09:55] tried doing that here in New
[2:09:57] Mexico and Gallllup would be
[2:09:59] very favorable of that because
[2:10:01] our law enforcement know the
[2:10:02] repeat offenders
[2:10:04] they're at the point now they're
[2:10:06] throwing their hands up of why
[2:10:07] am I even picking him up
[2:10:10] they're frustrated you know we
[2:10:12] we we see it they're going to
[2:10:14] be right back on the street. Our
[2:10:16] businesses are our citizens are
[2:10:18] getting frustrated and that goes
[2:10:19] back to Representative Garcia's
[2:10:22] now the stereotype of we're
[2:10:24] throwing our hands up and we now
[2:10:25] we're reacting against the
[2:10:26] person
[2:10:28] versus against the disability.
[2:10:31] so if we can do some mandatory
[2:10:32] type thing where we can get them
[2:10:33] in the door
[2:10:36] and we can start getting them
[2:10:39] clean and and responsive and
[2:10:40] competent to accept
[2:10:42] the workforce the the the
[2:10:43] counseling the
[2:10:47] repairs with their family the
[2:10:50] housing all that whole circle
[2:10:52] that's needed not one component
[2:10:54] is going to cure anybody it's
[2:10:56] got to be a full component and
[2:10:58] and I'm speaking from not
[2:11:00] experience but but from my son I
[2:11:02] I I will say my my son went
[2:11:04] through a heavy addiction and
[2:11:06] and it took prison for him to
[2:11:07] get clean and that was a
[2:11:09] mandatory commitment because it
[2:11:11] was prison. It it wasn't I
[2:11:12] want to be there
[2:11:14] and and I'm happy to say two
[2:11:14] years
[2:11:19] that he's very involved with the
[2:11:20] community now and clean.
[2:11:22] and and a product productive
[2:11:23] citizen that's what we're
[2:11:24] looking for
[2:11:27] but but it has to be a mandatory
[2:11:28] and and I would rather see it
[2:11:30] mandatory to a treatment than
[2:11:30] mandatory to a prison.
[2:11:32] to be honest
[2:11:34] because because I will be honest
[2:11:35] with you there too.
[2:11:38] Dad it was easier for me to get
[2:11:39] drugs in prison than it was on
[2:11:40] the streets
[2:11:41] I will be blunt with that
[2:11:44] I think that's the other thing
[2:11:45] too with arizona is they have
[2:11:53] there were some questions about
[2:11:55] the economic development of the
[2:11:57] area of the industrial park
[2:11:59] because before I got here it is
[2:12:02] a whole conundrum with data
[2:12:03] centers
[2:12:06] but you get it very briefly
[2:12:10] madam chair we'd be happy to
[2:12:12] we we did have a brief
[2:12:15] interest from a data center
[2:12:17] coming in. there there was
[2:12:20] some discussions at this
[2:12:21] point they're not on the table.
[2:12:24] We we do have a manufacturing
[2:12:25] facility wanting to come in that
[2:12:26] is going to manufacture solar
[2:12:27] panels
[2:12:30] unfortunately he he talked in
[2:12:31] his in his
[2:12:35] portfolio he called it a data
[2:12:37] center, but I would like to call
[2:12:38] it an operating center it it
[2:12:40] it's it's it's the technological
[2:12:43] portion to control his machines
[2:12:45] we're not talking oracle Project
[2:12:47] Jupiter we're not talking big
[2:12:48] data center where we're housing
[2:12:50] and farming out stuff Ai we're
[2:12:51] we're talking
[2:12:54] to compete with the Chinese
[2:12:56] we're we're going to have to
[2:12:58] have some machines doing some of
[2:13:00] this intensive work. Well this
[2:13:02] is an operation center to run
[2:13:04] that so it's a data center to
[2:13:07] run his machines so we we have a
[2:13:09] big interest in a production
[2:13:12] facility of solar panels they
[2:13:14] want to go into making the glass
[2:13:16] making all they're heavily
[2:13:19] involved in a right now on
[2:13:20] providing solar and
[2:13:21] hydroelectric
[2:13:24] to a company there to a
[2:13:25] country not a company a country
[2:13:27] there and they want to produce
[2:13:29] them here they are going to need
[2:13:30] a lot of land to put solar
[2:13:31] panels up because we cannot
[2:13:32] supply them the electricity
[2:13:35] we just don't have enough we
[2:13:36] can't even buy enough into
[2:13:38] gallup to provide so they're
[2:13:39] gonna have to use a lot of the
[2:13:40] land for solar. there is a
[2:13:43] stereotype on water we have
[2:13:44] no agreements right now with
[2:13:45] them for water. there isn't
[2:13:47] interest to buy our treated
[2:13:48] affluent water
[2:13:51] which we have an abundance of
[2:13:52] because right now we put it in
[2:13:54] the Perco and it goes down
[2:13:55] river. it it's going into
[2:13:58] arizona so we would rather use
[2:14:01] that to a true purpose of of
[2:14:04] treating it and the logistics is
[2:14:06] there. they're going into an old
[2:14:08] car strip mine that used
[2:14:10] affluent water for dust control
[2:14:12] so that the the mechanisms
[2:14:14] they'll have to replace the
[2:14:15] pumps because they're old. The
[2:14:16] pumps the lines are there to get
[2:14:17] them the affluent water from our
[2:14:18] plant we
[2:14:20] have well over a million gallons
[2:14:20] a day that we can supply them
[2:14:21] sell them
[2:14:26] and and it was pledged to other
[2:14:27] companies in the past
[2:14:30] we felt we don't want to pledge
[2:14:31] it that way we would prefer him
[2:14:32] to go through the state leadA
[2:14:33] process
[2:14:35] through the local leader process
[2:14:36] to where if we're giving them a
[2:14:38] discount on that water it's
[2:14:39] through a process not a
[2:14:41] handshake deal of this is what
[2:14:42] you promised us but more of an
[2:14:42] economic deal
[2:14:46] this is to bring you in so we're
[2:14:47] if we're talking any type of
[2:14:48] freshwater
[2:14:51] it is for the restrooms for
[2:14:52] housing for kitchenettes
[2:14:55] just like we would supply to
[2:14:57] Walmart or any other business
[2:15:00] coming in water to operate for
[2:15:01] the public, not for the
[2:15:03] manufacturing. The only water we
[2:15:05] will pledge and haven't yet is a
[2:15:06] fluent water
[2:15:07] for their manufacturing
[2:15:10] thank you thank you for that
[2:15:11] clarification because they think
[2:15:12] there's a lot of companies in
[2:15:14] that misconception too when they
[2:15:16] say data center because that
[2:15:19] reliance on someone else
[2:15:21] housing your storage and all
[2:15:22] that seems to be
[2:15:25] it seems to be lower cost
[2:15:26] especially if even with energy I
[2:15:28] know some people on the
[2:15:30] hazardous materials so we talked
[2:15:31] about thes andRs the small
[2:15:33] nuclear reactors and uranium and
[2:15:34] energy
[2:15:36] because as far as I know I
[2:15:38] haven't had anybody kind of do
[2:15:41] any restrictions on water yet or
[2:15:43] do any restrictions on energy
[2:15:45] and how much we but we're
[2:15:47] consuming we're consuming a
[2:15:50] great amounts and it is it's
[2:15:52] there it's reality and some
[2:15:53] people are really fighting
[2:15:54] against thinking we're just
[2:15:55] gonna cut everything off by its
[2:15:57] like there has to be some
[2:15:59] compromise there because in
[2:16:00] order to have economic
[2:16:03] development there are some
[2:16:04] things that are necessary for
[2:16:06] some of these companies
[2:16:06] especially when you talk about
[2:16:09] trust and reliability and not
[2:16:10] even waiting for somebody else
[2:16:12] to do that for you relying on
[2:16:14] some other entity to come in if
[2:16:16] you can provide it all there. it
[2:16:18] is more I think advantageous for
[2:16:19] a company to come in but thank
[2:16:21] you for that clarification madam
[2:16:22] Jerem let you know we've been
[2:16:24] upfront and honest with this
[2:16:25] company. This is the only power
[2:16:26] we can provide you.
[2:16:28] this is all we can provide there
[2:16:30] all the rest must come from
[2:16:31] behind the meter and and that's
[2:16:32] why they're looking at
[2:16:34] purchasing more land for their
[2:16:36] solar to produce and such and
[2:16:37] and we've been very upfront with
[2:16:38] them on water
[2:16:40] you know they they were talking4
[2:16:42] or ive phases and we can
[2:16:43] probably get them enough
[2:16:44] affluent water for two phases so
[2:16:45] that's all they're looking at at
[2:16:47] this point until they can find
[2:16:49] other sources of water but we
[2:16:51] are not pledging our Navajo
[2:16:52] Gallup water supply project when
[2:16:54] it comes in our our public
[2:16:55] entity
[2:16:56] come first
[2:17:01] right now and then we've also
[2:17:03] told them we have to withholdX
[2:17:04] amount of affluent water because
[2:17:06] we do use it to water our golf
[2:17:09] course and you know we've taken
[2:17:10] almost all of our parks
[2:17:12] off of the watering system now.
[2:17:14] thank you state government
[2:17:16] you've given us the the
[2:17:19] resources to turf almost all of
[2:17:20] our parks were down to 2 parks
[2:17:21] now that we're looking at the
[2:17:22] future of getting rid of the
[2:17:24] grass and going to turf and
[2:17:26] we'll be100% artificial turf
[2:17:29] with no watering in our parks so
[2:17:31] we're we're working on that so
[2:17:32] we've been upfront and honest
[2:17:34] with this company and the public
[2:17:36] that this is all we can supply
[2:17:39] you and nothing you go above and
[2:17:40] beyond while that's on you you
[2:17:40] you you cannot
[2:17:41] expand beyond what we can give
[2:17:42] you
[2:17:45] thank you it ain't hope with our
[2:17:46] next administration of Navajo
[2:17:47] Nation we continue to collab
[2:17:51] border towns but thank you thank
[2:17:52] you mayor
[2:17:57] thank you very muchppreciate it.
[2:17:58] thanks for coming to Gallup.
[2:18:00] and thank you for the work you
[2:18:02] do. I do have Manylito chapter
[2:18:04] president andaci chapter
[2:18:07] president in our in our midst
[2:18:09] but because we have this
[2:18:10] presentation and then we're
[2:18:11] gonna have public comment
[2:18:13] we're going to have to actually
[2:18:16] and manualito come in after our
[2:18:18] presentation number3, the future
[2:18:19] of community economic
[2:18:20] sovereignty we'll talk to you
[2:18:21] soon need to make an appointment
[2:18:22] with you guys
[2:18:23] yeah yes
[2:18:30] So Liz Gambola henry Jake Forman
[2:18:31] and Aquila Martinez would you
[2:18:32] join us up here
[2:18:36] and if there we eat person as
[2:18:37] committee member oh yeah there's
[2:18:39] a pub yeah where we have a
[2:18:41] public comment sign in sheet at
[2:18:43] the the front there so just be
[2:18:45] aware if you signed up I'm gonna
[2:18:46] call you out to make public
[2:18:46] comment
[2:18:50] but before we go into public
[2:18:51] comment we'll have a short
[2:18:52] presentation with our two
[2:18:54] chapter presidents that are here
[2:18:56] committee members we're gonna
[2:18:58] take a very short five minute
[2:19:01] break members go get pickup
[2:19:02] lunch there and we're gonna
[2:19:04] start to have a working lunch
[2:19:05] sort of thing
[2:19:06] yeah the food's the food's there
[2:19:11] and thank you to Representative
[2:19:13] Lundstrom for lunch re of
[2:19:15] Johnton and Twin Lakes chapter
[2:19:17] for the continental breakfast
[2:19:19] fruits and donutts and thank you
[2:19:21] to the chamber for donuts short
[2:19:22] little break5 minutes.
[2:27:05] OK, those that are in line to
[2:27:08] get your lunch please quiet
[2:27:08] down
[2:27:14] take your conversations down
[2:27:16] the tone with your voice so our
[2:27:19] presenters can get going and you
[2:27:20] have not been before us before
[2:27:23] ok so the green light to go we
[2:27:24] try to only have one microphone
[2:27:26] on at a time. make sure you
[2:27:28] bring it close to you because we
[2:27:29] are webcasting so our members
[2:27:32] can those that are joining us
[2:27:34] will be able to hear you thank
[2:27:35] you thank you so much
[2:27:40] all right awesome well thank you
[2:27:41] so much thank you so much for
[2:27:43] addressing us today committee
[2:27:45] madam chair senator thank you so
[2:27:47] much yes so we'll go ahead and
[2:27:49] speak up we are New Mexico
[2:27:50] community capital my name is
[2:27:51] Henry Jake Forman I'm
[2:27:54] absenteehawnee from Oklahoma as
[2:27:56] well as Filipino and ScotsIrish
[2:27:57] born and raised here in New
[2:27:59] Mexico and Albuquerque, New
[2:28:01] Mexico so grateful we got to
[2:28:03] go to school with some of our
[2:28:04] representatives and chairpeople
[2:28:06] here as well. I'm gonna go ahead
[2:28:06] and introduce our executive
[2:28:07] director Liz
[2:28:09] Gamboa who will start our
[2:28:10] presentation.
[2:28:15] good afternoon I'm so happy you
[2:28:18] all have your lunch wonderful
[2:28:22] so yes my name isliz Gamboa. I
[2:28:26] am Mexican and apache descent
[2:28:29] I have I am the executive
[2:28:32] director at NMCc I have been
[2:28:34] there for 8 years come October
[2:28:34] 1st.
[2:28:40] time has flown and I came
[2:28:43] here from the bay areaa to join
[2:28:46] the organization and I came here
[2:28:48] for this job it really was an
[2:28:50] answer to what we've always
[2:28:52] wanted to do to bring my finance
[2:28:56] background into economic
[2:28:58] development and community
[2:28:58] development so
[2:29:02] yeah I'd love to introduce you
[2:29:06] to our organization NMCC is
[2:29:08] what I will call it it's a long
[2:29:10] name and we've thought about
[2:29:12] changing the name but since we
[2:29:14] serve community we're keeping it
[2:29:17] for now we are all of our
[2:29:20] strategic direction is around
[2:29:23] communities so our official
[2:29:26] mission is to bridge access to
[2:29:28] knowledge space technology
[2:29:29] people and capital to
[2:29:32] create stronger communities
[2:29:35] resilient local economies and
[2:29:38] pathways to prosperity we
[2:29:40] activate life changing
[2:29:43] opportunities with indigenous
[2:29:45] people and other economically
[2:29:48] distressed communities to build
[2:29:51] community economic sovereignty
[2:29:55] we've been around since 204, our
[2:29:57] first investor was a local
[2:29:59] pueblo we started as a non
[2:30:03] p ro fi t but we also had a Vc
[2:30:07] arm which is a fund we actually
[2:30:09] ran two funds that were around
[2:30:14] up until a year and a half ago
[2:30:16] when we closed the fund so both
[2:30:20] were successful and the idea
[2:30:21] was that
[2:30:26] it we wanted to find investment
[2:30:29] ready businesses led by
[2:30:31] indigenous people we couldn't
[2:30:33] find them so we had to just
[2:30:36] recalibrate a little bit and
[2:30:38] really go to that group and
[2:30:40] teach them how to do that and
[2:30:41] get investment ready.
[2:30:47] that is kind of where I come
[2:30:48] into the picture. I was one of
[2:30:50] those native entrepreneurs in
[2:30:52] residence at the time I was a
[2:30:52] high school teacher at the
[2:30:54] Native American Community
[2:30:56] academy and I was on my own path
[2:30:58] to recovery right my dad died of
[2:31:00] cirrhosis of the liver so
[2:31:01] that's just something you know
[2:31:02] this conversation that we had
[2:31:04] previously really hit home you
[2:31:05] know for me and what gave me
[2:31:07] hope is entrepreneurship. you
[2:31:08] know what gave me hope is being
[2:31:11] in school and getting my degree
[2:31:12] and that's when I got connected
[2:31:14] to New Mexicounity capital we
[2:31:14] see that there's
[2:31:17] a lot of societal challenges but
[2:31:19] we feel like we're a community
[2:31:21] solution, right we know that
[2:31:22] over 6% of New Mexico businesses
[2:31:24] are native owned and we also
[2:31:26] know that indigenous founders
[2:31:28] receive less than0.5% of venture
[2:31:29] capital and philanthropic
[2:31:31] funding. so that's what our
[2:31:32] that's why we're here that's why
[2:31:34] we wanted to talk with you all
[2:31:35] to just really start building
[2:31:37] relations and kinship
[2:31:39] connected so like Liz mentioned
[2:31:41] we really activate life changing
[2:31:42] opportunities and we wanted to
[2:31:44] show you all some cases and
[2:31:44] examples of how we've done that
[2:31:47] in the past and I'm following
[2:31:49] you all have a presentation of
[2:31:51] our slide deck. So I'm going to
[2:31:52] the deck that is entitled core
[2:31:55] annualgras one of the
[2:31:57] culturally grounded business
[2:31:59] education workshops that we do
[2:32:00] is our business and marketing
[2:32:03] essentials so imagine right you
[2:32:04] all were talking about intake
[2:32:05] and people needing support
[2:32:07] what we do right away is we
[2:32:08] offer a holistic support to
[2:32:10] native entrepreneurs we take
[2:32:13] in again what their needs are
[2:32:14] what their challenges and right
[2:32:14] away we give
[2:32:16] them access to one on one
[2:32:18] coaching and support. We give
[2:32:20] them a digital wallet for their
[2:32:22] online subscriptions to get aite
[2:32:24] we also offer laptops we know
[2:32:26] that resources and access to
[2:32:28] technologies is a real barrier
[2:32:29] so we've been over we've been
[2:32:30] able to literally give out
[2:32:32] thousands of laptops across
[2:32:34] Mexico and then provide access
[2:32:37] to actual cash resources so back
[2:32:39] starting in 2017 when we started
[2:32:40] our business marketing
[2:32:43] essentials we offer everyone1200
[2:32:44] dollars to be able to help
[2:32:45] them with their marketing
[2:32:46] during our business and
[2:32:49] marketing essentials class
[2:32:50] and before in our native
[2:32:51] entrepreneur and residence
[2:32:52] program we offered all of our
[2:32:55] entrepreneurs15,000 dollars plus
[2:32:57] six months of mentorship. That
[2:32:58] was life changing for me. that's
[2:33:00] what we talked about when we we
[2:33:01] offer life changing
[2:33:02] opportunities because that's how
[2:33:03] I was able to become an
[2:33:05] entrepreneur shift from my
[2:33:08] full time job as a as a teacher
[2:33:09] to also being an entrepreneur
[2:33:11] and own a storefront in downtown
[2:33:13] Albuquerque. So these are the
[2:33:14] types of things that we do
[2:33:14] like wement
[2:33:17] we access to community capital
[2:33:20] so that's micro grants tech tool
[2:33:22] kits nonpredatory loans,
[2:33:24] networks of peers and allies and
[2:33:25] I think that's how we've also
[2:33:26] been able to strengthen our
[2:33:28] indigenous workforce and
[2:33:31] business owners and then we also
[2:33:33] offer fiscal sponsorship so you
[2:33:34] all mentioned right there's
[2:33:36] always a lack of fiscal sponsors
[2:33:37] within our community who's able
[2:33:39] to take in these funds these
[2:33:41] capital stacks and be able to
[2:33:42] manage programs and that's
[2:33:44] really what we focused on we
[2:33:44] have 22 different
[2:33:47] emerging projects around the
[2:33:48] state that we act as a fiscal
[2:33:50] sponsor and what has really
[2:33:51] helped us is that we have our
[2:33:52] back end we have a solid
[2:33:54] foundation as a venture capital
[2:33:56] fund operating for over 20 years
[2:33:58] we have two accountants and we
[2:34:00] really focus on technology to
[2:34:00] help with program management.
[2:34:04] So on our next slide, Liz is
[2:34:06] going to talk about you know why
[2:34:07] we're here and why should we
[2:34:08] invest in more native
[2:34:09] entrepreneurs in New Mexico
[2:34:10] community capital.
[2:34:25] So New Mexico is a hot spot as
[2:34:27] I'm sure you are all feeling
[2:34:29] with perhaps different
[2:34:32] leadership coming in
[2:34:36] different way and right it is
[2:34:39] the second state number 2 for
[2:34:43] native owned businesses in 2025
[2:34:46] so our work over the last decade
[2:34:49] has helped New Mexico stand out
[2:34:50] as one of the strongest
[2:34:51] environment
[2:34:54] s in the country for native
[2:34:56] entrepreneurs and we're the only
[2:34:59] native led nonprofit that
[2:35:01] provides services to business
[2:35:03] owners statewide and all tribal
[2:35:04] affiliation.
[2:35:06] affiliations sorry
[2:35:07] so
[2:35:11] we've done a lot in the past10
[2:35:16] years so officially in 2014 we
[2:35:18] received a grant from the
[2:35:20] administration for Native
[2:35:24] Americans which kicked off ourE
[2:35:25] program native entrepreneur and
[2:35:28] residents program a very first
[2:35:30] company to go through the
[2:35:32] program was bo and arrow brewery
[2:35:37] sohya Shepherd worked at NMCc
[2:35:38] she was a financial analyst
[2:35:41] so she took it to the next step.
[2:35:44] she was ready to take the leap
[2:35:47] and she helped formulate and
[2:35:49] build the curriculum for the
[2:35:50] NMCc program so
[2:35:54] she was the first of46
[2:35:56] entrepreneurs to go through the
[2:35:58] six month program but what we
[2:36:02] found was we needed more basics
[2:36:05] and essentials so Jake created
[2:36:06] another program calledinancial
[2:36:09] Business basicsics we then moved
[2:36:13] to digital marketing and
[2:36:16] media basics and now where we've
[2:36:18] landed is business and marketing
[2:36:20] essentials so all of those
[2:36:20] program
[2:36:25] s we've put 864 people through
[2:36:28] various programs every single
[2:36:32] one has received a stipend so
[2:36:34] anywhere from1200 dollars
[2:36:37] to15,000 for the six month
[2:36:39] program that is included in
[2:36:41] every grant that we provide to
[2:36:42] funders
[2:36:46] it is an essential piece of the
[2:36:49] work that we do people not only
[2:36:50] need it for the business they
[2:36:52] need it for child care they need
[2:36:55] it for food we think what are
[2:36:56] the hurdles that are keeping
[2:36:58] entrepreneurs from doing their
[2:37:03] work so that amounts to10,000
[2:37:06] over10,000 hours in training so
[2:37:08] I'm oh you're looking at the new
[2:37:12] pack 228,000 in tech toolkits
[2:37:15] the value of that mentorship is
[2:37:18] almost a million dollars that
[2:37:21] we've provided and we have
[2:37:26] received14.5 million in grants
[2:37:28] we have only received one state
[2:37:32] grant from IAD we did a program
[2:37:33] just this earlier this year
[2:37:37] we did two business and
[2:37:38] marketing essentials classes
[2:37:43] awesome thank you Liz for
[2:37:44] sharing some of that impact and
[2:37:45] that's all driven by the
[2:37:47] entrepreneurs themselves,
[2:37:48] including the mentorship we
[2:37:50] really value finding native
[2:37:53] mentors as well so in some cases
[2:37:54] that's here both in New Mexico
[2:37:55] as well as nationally and
[2:37:56] internationally
[2:37:59] so on our next slide we're
[2:38:00] talking about access to
[2:38:02] knowledge so just want to give
[2:38:03] you a quote you know from a
[2:38:05] participant the training I
[2:38:06] received gave me the confidence
[2:38:07] and tools to grow my business
[2:38:10] and support my community and I
[2:38:11] would say that's almost one of
[2:38:13] the most valuable parts of our
[2:38:14] programming is to connect and
[2:38:16] network with the peers of native
[2:38:18] entrepreneurs right we have a
[2:38:20] space in downtown Albuquerque.
[2:38:22] We recently spent1.4 million
[2:38:24] dollars of renovating the space
[2:38:26] to have the best in class
[2:38:26] audiovisual to be able to do
[2:38:30] hybrid events to host community
[2:38:32] events and we have one of our
[2:38:33] participants here today
[2:38:35] Aquilamartinez and this is
[2:38:37] really around access to
[2:38:40] technology we doubled down on
[2:38:41] technology especially before the
[2:38:43] pandemic so we already knew that
[2:38:45] the rural nature of of our
[2:38:46] community meant that we couldn't
[2:38:47] be everywhere so we had to
[2:38:49] really focus on doing virtual
[2:38:51] programming making sure to give
[2:38:53] people computers teaching them
[2:38:55] how to do a a virtual
[2:38:56] programming right to to log in.
[2:38:57] So during the
[2:38:59] pandemic we actually were able
[2:39:00] to scale we never stopped
[2:39:02] working because our work was
[2:39:03] already based in that virtual
[2:39:05] programming. Akila was one of
[2:39:07] our participants and I feel like
[2:39:08] Liz you know if you could
[2:39:09] introduce her so that she could
[2:39:10] share her new slides that she
[2:39:11] also shared with you all
[2:39:16] Absolutely so Akila is one of
[2:39:19] those success stories that we'd
[2:39:23] like to point out I very much
[2:39:26] believe in system models and I
[2:39:29] think the other interpretation
[2:39:31] of a system which is a very
[2:39:33] western term is relationship
[2:39:36] based models so here akeyla
[2:39:39] comes in she attends a class we
[2:39:42] see that she is very skilled so
[2:39:42] she comes in
[2:39:46] she becomes a guest speaker we
[2:39:49] decide to hire Akila to
[2:39:52] create some little vignettes of
[2:39:55] instruction around social
[2:39:56] media which is really needed
[2:40:01] so that goes on ikok and I think
[2:40:03] that maybe our highest rated
[2:40:06] ikok so if you go to our site
[2:40:09] and go back you'll see and it is
[2:40:11] all around language preservation
[2:40:15] so she has made it identifiable
[2:40:17] by younger people by older
[2:40:20] people just by the subject she
[2:40:24] uses she kicked off and led
[2:40:26] and she's going to talk a little
[2:40:26] about this but I think it's
[2:40:27] important
[2:40:30] to really just elevate what
[2:40:33] she's done in community and the
[2:40:36] most humble way we put on a
[2:40:39] turtle island women in tech
[2:40:42] conference so we brought women
[2:40:44] from New Zealand from Canada
[2:40:48] and my goodness and about six
[2:40:52] weeks 8 weeks akila raised
[2:40:53] enough money to put this
[2:40:54] conference on and brought these
[2:40:57] people here it was amazing. so
[2:40:59] this is something that just took
[2:41:01] place a year and a half ago it
[2:41:03] was the first of its kind and
[2:41:05] we're really pro proud that
[2:41:08] she's a part of our extended
[2:41:11] family at NMCc so I'm gonna pass
[2:41:13] it toilla and she can just talk
[2:41:14] about her work.
[2:41:17] thank you Liz that means so
[2:41:19] much. So just for some context
[2:41:21] we'll start on this slide here
[2:41:23] don't know if you guys could
[2:41:25] see that so a quick agenda of
[2:41:28] what I'll be talking about today
[2:41:30] is a glittering ro girl intro to
[2:41:33] my business and then how NMCc
[2:41:35] helped the latest momentum and
[2:41:36] why support matters in this work
[2:41:40] so starting with the first slide
[2:41:43] yay my name is Aquilo Martinez
[2:41:45] Bajaleque winni ini dnasha I
[2:41:46] come from the redsprings
[2:41:48] community of the Navajo Nation
[2:41:50] which is just about1f minutes
[2:41:52] south of Gallup, New Mexico so I
[2:41:55] went to school here elementary
[2:41:56] school, middle school and high
[2:41:59] school. and so yeah, I really
[2:42:02] much know what it is to be like
[2:42:03] growing up on a border by border
[2:42:04] town.
[2:42:06] I
[2:42:09] got my lifelong goal at the age
[2:42:10] of three to create
[2:42:12] community-based media after
[2:42:14] constantly witnessing my
[2:42:15] grandparents have to watch TV
[2:42:16] programming that was only
[2:42:18] offered in English so that's why
[2:42:20] I felt like it was important to
[2:42:22] create media that revitalizes
[2:42:22] language and culture
[2:42:26] into my adolescence after I
[2:42:28] graduated college I really saw
[2:42:30] that there was a lack of
[2:42:32] career opportunity around the
[2:42:34] area for language and culture
[2:42:36] preservation so which that led
[2:42:36] me down the path of
[2:42:37] entrepreneurship.
[2:42:40] Today glittering wallir is an
[2:42:43] indigenous women owned
[2:42:45] multimedia house and I focus on
[2:42:47] creating indigenousbased
[2:42:50] circular economic ecosystems
[2:42:51] community based media that
[2:42:53] focuses on indigenous language
[2:42:55] and culture of futurism. The
[2:42:58] medium that I predominantly
[2:43:00] focus on which is the next slide
[2:43:05] this one right here is
[2:43:07] augmented reality and so I
[2:43:09] develop augmented reality for
[2:43:12] mobile phones and for also
[2:43:13] augmented reality glasses
[2:43:17] multiple types of AR are
[2:43:19] augmented reality which is the
[2:43:22] slide here is the famous type of
[2:43:24] Aar is for social media filters
[2:43:25] and then also Pokemon Go.
[2:43:31] and some really cool exciting
[2:43:33] client feedback which is this
[2:43:36] slide here. is that
[2:43:37] glittering world girl was able
[2:43:40] to deliver AR experiences at a
[2:43:42] faster capacity and that are
[2:43:44] much better designed than
[2:43:45] companies on the east coast. So
[2:43:47] that really means a lot to me
[2:43:49] because it's taken a lot of
[2:43:51] momentum to teach myself how to
[2:43:53] build AR experiences which is an
[2:43:55] emerging technology and the
[2:43:57] focus of glittering Worldirl is
[2:43:58] to really help New
[2:44:01] Mexico and tribal nations become
[2:44:03] technologically inclined and up
[2:44:04] to date with emerging
[2:44:05] technologies that are changing
[2:44:06] the world.
[2:44:09] Some awards there that you see
[2:44:11] is that I've received
[2:44:15] multiple awards from MIT
[2:44:17] Stanford and recently a VC
[2:44:18] fund
[2:44:22] establishment in San Francisco
[2:44:24] and I've also gotten the New
[2:44:26] Mexico Women and Tech emerging
[2:44:26] award of 2024.
[2:44:29] and then you see there's some
[2:44:31] media coverage that my work has
[2:44:35] gotten and then also how New
[2:44:38] Mexicounity capital has really
[2:44:40] flourished and given me capacity
[2:44:44] to build on my business is in
[2:44:47] 2021 I joined their business
[2:44:49] marketingssentials class and
[2:44:51] they they really provided an
[2:44:53] environment and a space of
[2:44:55] support of entrepreneurship
[2:44:56] teaching me about marketing
[2:44:56] financial
[2:45:00] literacy, business and finance
[2:45:04] structures and that really
[2:45:07] led to me winning AIBE pitch
[2:45:10] competition in 2022 for first
[2:45:11] place for glittering Worldirl.
[2:45:17] since then I have like Liz
[2:45:20] mentioned there was a lot of
[2:45:23] trust there that was built I was
[2:45:26] hired to host some of their
[2:45:29] video marketing workshops and
[2:45:31] then also contracted to produce
[2:45:32] some videos for their
[2:45:34] programming and that really
[2:45:35] meant a lot to me because it
[2:45:38] felt like they believed in my
[2:45:38] my offerings that a business had
[2:45:40] my business had
[2:45:44] I've also and a s recipient of
[2:45:46] their kinship lending loan
[2:45:48] programme, which not only helped
[2:45:49] my business but it also helped
[2:45:52] me establish and create a
[2:45:53] positive credit for myself.
[2:45:58] in 2025 my business received
[2:46:01] a h00,000 dollars grant and I
[2:46:03] was able to use New Mexicounity
[2:46:06] capital as a fiscal sponsor and
[2:46:07] through that process they were a
[2:46:08] true partner in that process
[2:46:13] by offering me administrative
[2:46:16] and financial administrative
[2:46:19] support which let me learn about
[2:46:21] the ins and outs of budget to
[2:46:22] actuals profit and loss
[2:46:24] statements associated with the
[2:46:26] grant and most importantly to
[2:46:27] give me a sense of what it
[2:46:29] really takes to offer
[2:46:30] technologybased programming for
[2:46:30] the community.
[2:46:33] So on there you'll see pictures
[2:46:36] of indigenous augmented reality
[2:46:38] workshops I was able to host
[2:46:40] those at New Mexico Community
[2:46:41] Capital and through their fiscal
[2:46:44] sponsorship I was able to do
[2:46:46] workshops on the Navajo Nation
[2:46:46] and at UCLA.
[2:46:52] so and then the most latest
[2:46:56] momentum is that we hosted the
[2:46:57] turtle Islandomen in Tech event
[2:47:01] just this past august and that
[2:47:03] was an amazing moment in
[2:47:05] itself we brought together
[2:47:06] prominent indigenous women from
[2:47:08] Canada, New Zealand, across the
[2:47:10] states and of course New Mexico
[2:47:14] to really dream and imagine
[2:47:16] what technology can be like on
[2:47:16] our terms for economic sovere
[2:47:19] ign ty self determination,
[2:47:22] language and culturely
[2:47:24] appropriate content in
[2:47:25] technology and
[2:47:30] that in itself was a true
[2:47:31] partnership as well with New
[2:47:33] Mexico Community Capital you
[2:47:34] could say they acted as a fiscal
[2:47:35] sponsor for that
[2:47:38] because all of the skills that I
[2:47:40] have obtained up until this past
[2:47:43] august as an entrepreneur I was
[2:47:45] able to raise over47,000 dollars
[2:47:47] for this event within a matter
[2:47:49] of three months and that came
[2:47:50] from pitching
[2:47:54] glittering wogir New Mexico
[2:47:55] community capital to each of
[2:47:56] these sponsors to earn their
[2:47:57] trust and their dollars to
[2:47:58] sponsor this event
[2:48:00] so
[2:48:02] this is that that kind of space
[2:48:04] that the turtle Islandomen in
[2:48:07] tech event created is so
[2:48:09] valuable because as I've been in
[2:48:11] spaces like I mentioned at MIT
[2:48:14] Stanford Snapchat meta and
[2:48:16] some of the leading global
[2:48:18] conferences I see no indigenous
[2:48:20] representation in these spaces
[2:48:24] and so creating an event like
[2:48:25] the turtle Islandomen intech
[2:48:27] event is something that was is
[2:48:28] very much needed
[2:48:30] and it was an event to be
[2:48:33] attended by indigenous people
[2:48:34] non indigenous people, everyone
[2:48:36] so we can create an ecosystem
[2:48:38] and learn how we can work
[2:48:41] together and in innovative ways
[2:48:43] aside from that on glittering
[2:48:44] Worldirls
[2:48:48] with glittering wo girl I've
[2:48:50] been in talk with Bernna Leo
[2:48:52] County and Gallupup Tourism here
[2:48:54] to learn how to bring augmented
[2:48:56] reality programming to schools
[2:48:59] and then also to for the
[2:49:01] gallup tourism efforts as well
[2:49:02] to kind of bring an emerging
[2:49:05] te technology to an
[2:49:06] experience that the tourists get
[2:49:07] to experience when they
[2:49:10] visitallllup. but yeah so I
[2:49:12] just I really want to thank New
[2:49:14] Mexicounity Capi I think that
[2:49:15] what it takes really is
[2:49:19] resources I think through my
[2:49:21] work I realized that it does
[2:49:24] take a a a lot of dollars to be
[2:49:26] able to to create impact to be
[2:49:29] able to offer back to the
[2:49:30] community so through my
[2:49:33] workshops I I offer stipends to
[2:49:36] participants to attend we
[2:49:38] offer catering and then we also
[2:49:41] hire local talent to perform
[2:49:44] at these workshops so yeah I
[2:49:45] think that my ask
[2:49:49] today is for you guys to you
[2:49:51] know support New Mexicoun
[2:49:52] capital because of all of the
[2:49:54] great work that they do they
[2:49:56] really are a leader in the
[2:49:58] whole50 states for innovation
[2:50:01] and indigenous entrepreneurship
[2:50:03] they're creating a whole
[2:50:04] ecosystem of that that is a
[2:50:04] model to be studied
[2:50:09] and so yes the ask is that
[2:50:11] you know we need support as
[2:50:12] entrepreneurs who are trying to
[2:50:14] give back to community and
[2:50:16] create and invent new things for
[2:50:18] the community we need the
[2:50:20] dollars to do that the
[2:50:22] visibility and really the
[2:50:23] community and trust in the
[2:50:25] kinship amongst all of us to
[2:50:27] create that thriving ecosystem.
[2:50:28] thank you
[2:50:31] thank you Akila. so yes
[2:50:38] as of right now no we do not.
[2:50:40] we did receive a small grant
[2:50:42] from the IED this past year
[2:50:43] but we have yeah we have not
[2:50:45] yes and that's also
[2:50:52] we we could have a couple more
[2:50:54] slides but it's up to you ok
[2:50:56] yeah so yeah we'll focus
[2:50:57] we'll just finish up some of the
[2:50:59] slides so Kela was talking
[2:51:00] about our turtle Island women at
[2:51:02] tech event you know, I just want
[2:51:03] to put it out there we had
[2:51:06] over100 entrepreneurs there at
[2:51:08] this event and we had
[2:51:10] BobbyRossette from Canada who
[2:51:11] just sold their business one of
[2:51:13] the first native women business
[2:51:14] owners who just sold their
[2:51:16] business for over400 million
[2:51:17] dollars, right? And so that's
[2:51:19] the type of story that's the
[2:51:20] type of hope that we're
[2:51:20] providing right just
[2:51:23] just examples of that since
[2:51:24] opening up our resilience hub
[2:51:26] we've had over19 different
[2:51:28] pueblos use our space over47
[2:51:31] other tribal nations, ix
[2:51:32] international indigenous groups
[2:51:35] over116 partner organizations we
[2:51:37] host we hope to host you all one
[2:51:38] day as well in the future we
[2:51:40] do film nights art nights
[2:51:42] wellness classes, powwow
[2:51:44] practice drum and native games
[2:51:45] and this is something that we
[2:51:47] want to expand across New Mexico
[2:51:48] right? how do we activate
[2:51:49] downtown spaces we're operating
[2:51:52] in a space called the Occidental
[2:51:54] buildingilding and if you all
[2:51:56] know that means the the western
[2:51:57] building right so it it's really
[2:51:59] symbolic that we have all of
[2:52:01] these indigenous entrepreneurs
[2:52:03] cultural bearers utilizing the
[2:52:04] space one of the nicest
[2:52:06] historical buildings in downtown
[2:52:07] Albuquerque we're hoping to
[2:52:08] purchase that building. we
[2:52:09] know that you all can't help
[2:52:11] with capital outlay but
[2:52:13] that's something that we're also
[2:52:15] fundraising for just a little
[2:52:16] bit about our access to
[2:52:18] community capital the fiscal
[2:52:19] sponsorship grants the stipends,
[2:52:20] the rooted
[2:52:23] relative loan funds the co op
[2:52:24] capital loans and did you
[2:52:25] exchange sales? these are all
[2:52:26] just numbers that we wanted to
[2:52:28] share with you all. We want nex
[2:52:29] this in the next10 years, right?
[2:52:30] this is what something that
[2:52:32] we're passionate about and we
[2:52:33] have a system that I believe
[2:52:35] works not only for indigenous
[2:52:37] communities but rural
[2:52:38] communities across New Mexico
[2:52:39] and that's why we want to keep
[2:52:41] our name New Mexicounity
[2:52:43] Capital. So I'll have thisz
[2:52:45] round us out to with our
[2:52:46] presentations so we could have
[2:52:47] start into questions.
[2:52:54] so as Jake said for the past
[2:52:56] year we've been looking at
[2:52:59] buying our building we've also
[2:53:02] been concerned about operating
[2:53:04] expenses so we can continue this
[2:53:08] work I think it is an
[2:53:10] important piece of programming
[2:53:14] to offer stipends to individuals
[2:53:16] so that raises the cost of the
[2:53:19] program a bit we also offer
[2:53:20] follow
[2:53:24] up mentorship and technical
[2:53:27] assistance so at least3 to5
[2:53:30] hours of mentorship for every
[2:53:33] person is offered and that's not
[2:53:34] just with us that could be with
[2:53:38] others Akila has been a mentor
[2:53:38] another role that
[2:53:42] Akila has filled and we have
[2:53:45] first Friday art walks madam
[2:53:47] chair you look like you have a
[2:53:51] question. OK sounds good so
[2:53:54] we have we offer first Friday
[2:53:56] art walks all the vendors that
[2:53:58] have been in our programs are
[2:54:01] invited to participate in that
[2:54:04] so we don't charge we offer food
[2:54:06] to all of the vendors that come
[2:54:08] so again paying for security
[2:54:12] you know not charging them a
[2:54:14] space buying food and then the
[2:54:17] staff is there that has to take
[2:54:20] part in it and we've done worked
[2:54:24] with the rail yards we've done40
[2:54:27] we've hosted40 different
[2:54:29] individuals we paid for the
[2:54:31] space and given them it to them
[2:54:34] we just wrapped up a five year
[2:54:34] award
[2:54:38] through the future is indigenous
[2:54:40] women so that was a five year
[2:54:43] program that we ran we were the
[2:54:45] recipient of a10 million dollars
[2:54:50] award from Melinda Gates and
[2:54:53] mackenzieco and the Schusterman
[2:54:55] Foundation to make women native
[2:54:57] women more vestable so we did
[2:55:00] that through summits and
[2:55:02] programs and the repatriating
[2:55:04] economies apprenticeship gave
[2:55:08] them a lot of air time and
[2:55:12] interviews and did community
[2:55:14] table building sessions online
[2:55:18] we had5 years of that so we just
[2:55:21] wrapped up we'll have a public
[2:55:22] report out soon
[2:55:28] with that10 million4.6 million
[2:55:31] was given back to community so
[2:55:33] that went through stipends that
[2:55:37] was loans that was technical
[2:55:39] assistance so truly almost half
[2:55:41] of it went back out to everyone
[2:55:43] that participated in the program
[2:55:47] and we'll we'll end this
[2:55:48] presentation with just one other
[2:55:50] example success story
[2:55:52] benendndo the last name might
[2:55:55] sound familiar but again also
[2:55:56] program graduate became a
[2:55:59] fiscally sponsored project
[2:56:00] helped him with branding and
[2:56:02] marketing support and helped him
[2:56:05] buy a property inhama Springs
[2:56:07] and he is fromhama pueblo and
[2:56:08] that was very symbolic to be
[2:56:11] able to have a physical location
[2:56:13] within Hama Springs to offer
[2:56:14] culturally rele relevant
[2:56:14] training capoe
[2:56:18] a training dance classes you
[2:56:20] know to his community it's now a
[2:56:21] community retreat and gathering
[2:56:23] space and just another
[2:56:25] example you know of how they
[2:56:27] went through our system and I
[2:56:28] just want to emphasize this
[2:56:29] because you all probably hear a
[2:56:31] lot of really I don't wanna say
[2:56:33] like sad stories right on this
[2:56:34] committee you know just hearing
[2:56:36] about water addiction. we want
[2:56:37] to bring this this light because
[2:56:39] I think this is the success that
[2:56:41] we want to see more of, right?
[2:56:43] people from the community
[2:56:44] supporting one another and
[2:56:44] really you know taking the
[2:56:49] emphasis to increase their
[2:56:50] generational wealth so I
[2:56:51] think we'll you know pause that
[2:56:53] you get to see a little bit of
[2:56:55] our operating budget as well and
[2:56:56] some future projects but I'll
[2:56:58] have Liz and this end this
[2:56:58] presentation thank you
[2:57:06] so we have have run a budget
[2:57:08] for the past5 years of anywhere
[2:57:13] from3.75 to4.2 million dollars
[2:57:14] and and a lot of that
[2:57:19] that's high for us and that was
[2:57:22] due to the award we managed the
[2:57:25] the funding for this we also
[2:57:28] were able to invest very safely
[2:57:31] in CDs and were backed FDIC
[2:57:34] insured so we're able even to
[2:57:37] make a little bit more but
[2:57:42] just to share that we have 88%
[2:57:44] of the money that funds us comes
[2:57:45] from grants
[2:57:49] and contributions business
[2:57:53] services is 9% for2026 interest
[2:57:54] income is3%.
[2:58:00] we that actually seems high
[2:58:02] but it's lower than what it has
[2:58:06] been has been closer to 95% and
[2:58:09] it's hard to rely on grants and
[2:58:12] private funding for this work
[2:58:16] year after year so we have not
[2:58:19] presented before and there's
[2:58:22] a couple of reasons for us being
[2:58:22] here one is
[2:58:27] we do need to diversify the way
[2:58:30] that we bring funding in and
[2:58:31] we are in a building
[2:58:35] I've been here for 8 years when
[2:58:40] I was here came in 2018 we were
[2:58:42] in a corporate office building
[2:58:44] at the corner of central andhird
[2:58:49] it felt like that was not quite
[2:58:51] our environment but that's where
[2:58:53] we were and where we landed in
[2:58:57] December of 2020 we moved to
[2:59:00] theoccidental building slowly
[2:59:03] took over4,000 square feet of
[2:59:06] space we took over another4,000
[2:59:10] square feet with the building
[2:59:12] and opening of the razillience
[2:59:14] sub two years ago October1st
[2:59:14] will be our
[2:59:18] anniversary and we raised as
[2:59:21] Jake said1.4 million dollars to
[2:59:24] finish that we have plans to
[2:59:27] expand and continue to grow in
[2:59:30] community and we need support
[2:59:33] with raising more money for
[2:59:37] the down payment we want to pair
[2:59:39] with another nonprofit who's
[2:59:42] currently on the 2nd floor and
[2:59:42] do a joint venture
[2:59:47] and own the building and this is
[2:59:52] for the long term vision of NMCc
[2:59:54] we also are looking for funding
[2:59:57] to support our programming so we
[3:00:00] can continue to build on this
[3:00:03] legacy of education and support
[3:00:07] in a way I feel is so unique in
[3:00:10] this area in this atmosphere I I
[3:00:12] truly want to see a continued
[3:00:12] Jake as our program director
[3:00:18] brings his whole life experience
[3:00:20] and it's really magical to see
[3:00:23] him lead classes and I've
[3:00:24] learned lots so
[3:00:27] we also want to move into
[3:00:29] tech more so and do it in the
[3:00:32] best way possible not relying on
[3:00:34] data centers where not for data
[3:00:38] centers but we see data servers
[3:00:40] perhaps on the second floor to
[3:00:44] make local models right and
[3:00:46] yeah and Jake has done a lot of
[3:00:48] work there he had previously
[3:00:50] worked in the grow with
[3:00:53] Google environment and for
[3:00:54] several years so
[3:00:57] they supported us and actually
[3:00:59] just granted us a little bit of
[3:01:02] money so we can continue that
[3:01:05] work with them and also of
[3:01:08] course agg right growing food
[3:01:10] we have in the resilience hub we
[3:01:12] have a gathering space that
[3:01:18] seats175 people we have a a seed
[3:01:20] vault it was previously a bank
[3:01:23] we've converted that into exceed
[3:01:24] exchange
[3:01:26] vaults so its temperature
[3:01:29] controlled mud all the way on
[3:01:31] the inside and we're having
[3:01:33] furniture we just fundraised
[3:01:36] for this having some custom
[3:01:38] pieces made so it is can be
[3:01:41] usable by community Wales of
[3:01:43] wellness space in the resilience
[3:01:45] hub so that could be
[3:01:48] traditional healing or western
[3:01:48] healing so
[3:01:51] that is our little community and
[3:01:56] we want to continue this work so
[3:02:02] I am just on the I don't
[3:02:04] know what this is the time sorry
[3:02:05] since it's my first
[3:02:07] presentation but we're trying to
[3:02:09] raise a million dollars to help
[3:02:12] with programming and developing
[3:02:15] the next vision and version of
[3:02:17] our entrepreneurial program
[3:02:19] which are called razilian
[3:02:22] circles it's already been tried
[3:02:25] out in Alaska so it is a whole
[3:02:26] wholelistic application
[3:02:31] of entrepreneurial coursework
[3:02:34] while also recognizing that
[3:02:35] there are real needs that our
[3:02:37] entrepreneurs have that are not
[3:02:40] met with that western model so
[3:02:40] that
[3:02:44] the building and just to
[3:02:45] continue the work we do and take
[3:02:48] a chance on people like Akila
[3:02:50] right I mean she was gonna make
[3:02:52] it wherever she was where
[3:02:54] fortunate that she partnered and
[3:02:57] paired with us for this kind
[3:03:00] of work but she's also gonna be
[3:03:04] just fine so that is our
[3:03:07] presentation and just want to
[3:03:08] thank you all for your attention
[3:03:10] so we had to present during
[3:03:13] lunch but yeah thank you
[3:03:16] thank you I remember when
[3:03:17] Sheilla and Melissa were first I
[3:03:18] think out
[3:03:21] I'd like to say it seemed like
[3:03:22] it was just
[3:03:29] before yeah way before I don't
[3:03:30] remember them mentioning bonero
[3:03:32] in in anybody's mind or even
[3:03:34] that thought of it but thank
[3:03:34] youpresentative Lindstrom
[3:03:37] madam chairir I just have some
[3:03:39] quick questions. I'm looking
[3:03:41] at your handout which says core
[3:03:43] annual programming and when you
[3:03:44] talk about access to community
[3:03:44] capital
[3:03:48] the first page of this handout
[3:03:50] talks about you being a venture
[3:03:52] capitalist but then it talks
[3:03:54] about giving micro grants
[3:03:56] nonpredatory loans so what
[3:03:58] are you? I mean you've got
[3:04:00] everything under the sun in
[3:04:02] here. what specifically do you
[3:04:04] do iss it venture capital work?
[3:04:05] is it grants what is it
[3:04:08] Yeah I'll I'll get to share that
[3:04:10] it's an evolution, right? So we
[3:04:11] started as a venture capital
[3:04:13] fund we saw that venture capital
[3:04:14] wasn't fitting our entrepreneur
[3:04:16] sector right so we went into
[3:04:18] CDFI right and doing loans went
[3:04:20] through the program at the time
[3:04:21] around10 years ago we didn't
[3:04:23] have many people interested in
[3:04:24] those loans even though they
[3:04:26] were low interest still that
[3:04:28] that apprehension to take out
[3:04:30] loan right debtbased financing.
[3:04:31] So we went specifically in
[3:04:33] grants and grant support of
[3:04:34] course everyone loves grants
[3:04:35] right nonrecoverable grants
[3:04:39] right now we're looking at being
[3:04:41] an intermediary as we know the
[3:04:42] state investment council the
[3:04:43] strategy that's behind that we
[3:04:44] feel like we're a really strong
[3:04:46] intermediary and we feel like
[3:04:47] we're really strong fiscal
[3:04:50] sponsor that does programming so
[3:04:51] I'll let Liz kind of share that
[3:04:53] we actually also with our
[3:04:55] with our rooted relative fund
[3:04:56] you could also share about that
[3:04:56] structure.
[3:05:00] so I I feel like we're doing a
[3:05:03] redo for everything so we're not
[3:05:06] in venture capital anymore I
[3:05:08] think you know I can argue that
[3:05:12] we're taking risks on people but
[3:05:14] really we're not looking at it
[3:05:18] that way we are one of three
[3:05:21] pilot nonprofits to in arizona
[3:05:26] and one here via RCAc to run
[3:05:26] the rooted relative fund so
[3:05:31] this is one of the community
[3:05:36] capital pieces we offer3% at
[3:05:42] a loans up to $250,000 so we
[3:05:44] have this for three years we're
[3:05:47] just starting our3rd year of it
[3:05:51] we're supporting CJ
[3:05:54] Bernal in Taos pueblo and Don
[3:05:56] butterfly cafe so we came in
[3:05:57] with the
[3:06:00] you know the capital stack he
[3:06:03] needed to convert a restaurant
[3:06:06] outside Taos pueblo we helped
[3:06:10] other make other folks like him
[3:06:13] nicole Arthun who came from
[3:06:15] changing women initiative and is
[3:06:18] starting you to be brief. OK
[3:06:21] OK so it's a3% loan that's what
[3:06:22] you offer
[3:06:27] and is that a flat rate or is
[3:06:29] that does that change with
[3:06:34] interest it is a flat rate3% so
[3:06:37] in case you were before another
[3:06:38] committee through the chair and
[3:06:41] then to the to the rep apologize
[3:06:44] yeah madam chairirpresentative
[3:06:47] Luundstrom apologies
[3:06:51] so instead of the native CDy
[3:06:52] that we're part of we knew that
[3:06:53] we had
[3:06:56] to do something differently so
[3:06:58] we went with two different loans
[3:07:01] that are relationshipbased loans
[3:07:04] one is co op Capital which is on
[3:07:07] air which is a5% fixed rate loan
[3:07:11] up to50,000 dollars the other is
[3:07:14] rooted relative fund which is up
[3:07:19] to 250,000 that's a3% so we have
[3:07:22] the capacity of lending3 million
[3:07:23] dollars
[3:07:29] we've lent so far one.05 million
[3:07:32] over the past two years were now
[3:07:35] building a program around it
[3:07:36] because we see the need so
[3:07:37] relationship based lending
[3:07:41] so that's what we turned it into
[3:07:45] versus just regular bank
[3:07:46] loans or lending
[3:07:49] Yeah I
[3:07:52] madam chairir and presenters, I
[3:07:53] appreciate you bringing this up
[3:07:54] but
[3:07:58] I live in this world so it's not
[3:08:01] that I'm trying to to poke
[3:08:03] holes through this. I just want
[3:08:04] to understand it. I wonders
[3:08:05] understand what you're actually
[3:08:06] doing here because
[3:08:08] when you talk I would take that
[3:08:10] whole venture capital thing out
[3:08:11] of here because the first thing
[3:08:12] I thought when I looked at that
[3:08:14] is how much do you guys get of
[3:08:16] the company? How much do you own
[3:08:16] of the companies that you helped
[3:08:17] them
[3:08:19] but I'm glad you're not doing
[3:08:20] that and I'm glad you're not
[3:08:24] because I can't imagine any
[3:08:26] small entrepreneur coming to you
[3:08:26] and asking for those kind of
[3:08:27] loans either
[3:08:31] so just trying to trying to
[3:08:32] get my arms around what you're
[3:08:34] trying to do now as a nonprofit
[3:08:38] it's hard for us the state as a
[3:08:38] state
[3:08:39] to provide
[3:08:43] capital outlay or even general
[3:08:45] appropriation funds to
[3:08:48] nonprofits you have to have a
[3:08:50] fiscal agent that can accept
[3:08:51] those funds do you have somebody
[3:08:52] like that or did you know
[3:09:00] yes madam chair andres
[3:09:04] Lindstrom where I did not
[3:09:07] know that I needed a physical to
[3:09:08] accept those funds
[3:09:12] we can talk offline about that
[3:09:14] or anyone can help you with
[3:09:16] it but I I was just curious how
[3:09:17] that was going to work we we are
[3:09:18] not allowed
[3:09:22] to give funding directly to
[3:09:24] nonprofits especially for
[3:09:24] capital purposes
[3:09:28] but this programming looks very
[3:09:29] intriguing and I'm surprised
[3:09:31] that it wouldn't fit under some
[3:09:32] of our existing programs
[3:09:36] just just bring that to your
[3:09:38] attention thank you madam chair
[3:09:40] thank you thank youpresentative.
[3:09:41] Any other questions from
[3:09:42] committee members?
[3:09:42] Representative roybarabballero.
[3:09:46] thank you madam chair and thank
[3:09:48] you very much I I do understand
[3:09:49] fully what you're doing. I've
[3:09:50] done this
[3:09:50] probably when it
[3:09:54] we were trailblazing this whole
[3:09:55] concept of community economic
[3:09:56] development
[3:09:59] that approach was done in the
[3:10:03] early1980s actually it was
[3:10:05] an experimental federal
[3:10:09] program that began under the
[3:10:10] Reagan administration's
[3:10:11] self-help concepts
[3:10:14] right that was a long time ago.
[3:10:16] So we set up an entity similar
[3:10:19] to yours in southern end of
[3:10:20] southern New Mexico and
[3:10:22] El Paso region
[3:10:25] excuse me and again as I said it
[3:10:26] was ahead of its time
[3:10:29] it was also sponsored through
[3:10:30] the Development training
[3:10:32] institute out of Baltimore at
[3:10:34] Maryland which is where I got my
[3:10:36] certification madam chairir. So
[3:10:40] I I'm I'm fully aware of what
[3:10:42] you're attempting to do and what
[3:10:44] you're doing actually so I have
[3:10:45] a couple of questions and that
[3:10:46] is
[3:10:50] we do have and I think you
[3:10:52] mentioned it the
[3:10:58] state in investment co, can you
[3:11:00] explain a little bit more what
[3:11:01] did you establish a relationship
[3:11:02] with the SIC?
[3:11:04] madam chairirpresentative
[3:11:08] Caballero we are we are
[3:11:09] currently establishing that
[3:11:10] relationship with the state
[3:11:11] investment council we're trying
[3:11:13] to find out what our niche is
[3:11:15] you know we know that they they
[3:11:16] have invested over $2 billion in
[3:11:18] over40 different venture capital
[3:11:20] funds and we're wanting to just
[3:11:21] again build relations find any
[3:11:23] clues that you all have. this is
[3:11:25] exactly why we're here just
[3:11:26] making those introductions
[3:11:26] because we yeah we feel like we
[3:11:27] can help
[3:11:30] the state. thank you madam Chair
[3:11:32] and thank you. I think to
[3:11:34] continue to establish that
[3:11:36] relationship is important also
[3:11:37] the relationship with the New
[3:11:39] Mexico finance Authority I
[3:11:40] think that
[3:11:44] you they will explain to you the
[3:11:46] various steps that would be
[3:11:48] necessary for your entity to be
[3:11:51] able to enter into a
[3:11:53] relationship at the state level
[3:11:55] and address the the questions
[3:11:58] that have come up with by
[3:11:59] Representative Luundstrom and
[3:12:01] other andpresentative Lumstrom
[3:12:02] and
[3:12:03] it it
[3:12:08] it will guide you in terms of
[3:12:09] the steps that you need to
[3:12:11] follow in building that
[3:12:13] relationship because this is a
[3:12:14] fine area of
[3:12:18] concentration you have
[3:12:19] identified the downtown
[3:12:21] Albuquerque revitalization, the
[3:12:23] ethical Ai agricultural work as
[3:12:26] your focus I guess your your
[3:12:27] focus
[3:12:29] in terms of
[3:12:32] fundraising and I think it's
[3:12:34] really important those three
[3:12:35] areas agricultural work madam
[3:12:37] chairir is vitally important
[3:12:39] right now because we've got to
[3:12:42] bring in that indigenous
[3:12:44] knowledge that we have in terms
[3:12:46] of agriculture and food
[3:12:46] preservation
[3:12:49] we're faced with a climate
[3:12:52] crisis we're also faced with an
[3:12:55] unwanted war we're also faced
[3:12:56] with a very
[3:13:00] gloomy future in terms of water
[3:13:04] in terms of pollution of our
[3:13:07] air and land and destruction of
[3:13:09] our land so a lot of these and
[3:13:11] so we've got to bring back that
[3:13:13] indigenous knowledge madam
[3:13:16] chair to help us find ways to
[3:13:20] preserve food for the future
[3:13:22] should we faced and when it's
[3:13:23] not going to happen in our
[3:13:25] lifetime I'm worried about our
[3:13:26] children and grandchildren and
[3:13:27] great grandchild
[3:13:28] re n because they may be faced
[3:13:31] with well I don't know in our
[3:13:33] lifetime we may face invasion of
[3:13:36] our utilities or the outages
[3:13:38] more and more outages and lack
[3:13:39] of water we already heard this
[3:13:41] morning madam chairir that we
[3:13:42] have communities which is
[3:13:45] appalling to me that are
[3:13:47] faced with all those conditions
[3:13:48] still
[3:13:49] in this time period
[3:13:52] so I just want to make sure
[3:13:53] that
[3:13:59] we establish you as a a
[3:14:02] real strong place within again
[3:14:04] New Mexico finance Authority and
[3:14:05] the state Investment co in
[3:14:07] particular those two entities so
[3:14:09] that you can be of further
[3:14:10] service to our
[3:14:14] ribes nations and pueblos and
[3:14:16] bring bring all of that success
[3:14:18] forward and last point is I do
[3:14:20] want to commend you and your
[3:14:22] funder acknowledgements
[3:14:24] because you you have tapped into
[3:14:26] the US economic development,
[3:14:29] small business and the
[3:14:30] administration for Native
[3:14:31] Americans those were all
[3:14:32] entities that we were
[3:14:36] so they were very strong support
[3:14:37] so thank you very much thank you
[3:14:38] madam chair
[3:14:40] madamirpresentative Caballero
[3:14:42] thank you so much for your words
[3:14:44] we also received atl grant
[3:14:45] from the Mexico Economic
[3:14:46] Development to become a
[3:14:48] certified incubator and
[3:14:49] accelerator so that I think that
[3:14:50] also answers your
[3:14:52] questionpresentative Liundstrom
[3:14:54] as well so we definitely want to
[3:14:55] stay in conversations we want
[3:14:56] just more Face time you know we
[3:14:57] hear that a lot of people have
[3:14:59] never heard of New Mexico
[3:15:01] community capital so that's also
[3:15:02] a reason why we're here we want
[3:15:03] to make sure that we're in
[3:15:05] community making the trips out
[3:15:07] to gallup and other locations
[3:15:08] and lastly we also
[3:15:11] helped bidi Baoos Zachariah
[3:15:14] Mary ben buy a four acre farm
[3:15:14] outside of Farmington in aztec,
[3:15:17] New Mexico and help them with
[3:15:19] their freeze drying operation
[3:15:20] and baby food line. so thank
[3:15:20] you.
[3:15:23] thank youpresentative
[3:15:26] any other questions for members
[3:15:27] so
[3:15:30] you want a million dollars to do
[3:15:31] building.
[3:15:37] madam chairir we do but we
[3:15:39] also I think we're a s re kind
[3:15:41] of framing that for programming
[3:15:43] so we're not asking asking for
[3:15:44] capital
[3:15:45] at this point that that that's a
[3:15:46] whole different thing now
[3:15:50] willing to do that but what's
[3:15:52] your background akila what did
[3:15:55] you get a degree at Stanford or
[3:15:58] what what what kind of or yeah
[3:16:00] so I like I said I'm from south
[3:16:01] of Gallup and I primarily live
[3:16:04] there now. I got a bachelor of
[3:16:05] fine arts from Universityiv of
[3:16:08] New Mexico and then I went
[3:16:08] and took care of my grandma into
[3:16:11] hospice up until 2018 and then I
[3:16:13] kind of entered theXR augmented
[3:16:15] reality technology scene
[3:16:17] through a nontraditional route
[3:16:18] so I did a lot of
[3:16:20] like coding boot camps but what
[3:16:22] I did is that I attended
[3:16:24] hackathons at like MIt and
[3:16:26] Stanford joined teams and then
[3:16:27] that's how I won the awards
[3:16:30] there and the reason I ask is
[3:16:31] because when one of the
[3:16:32] granddaughters too wanted
[3:16:36] I believe graphic arts degree
[3:16:37] good didn't have any here in New
[3:16:40] Mexico are higher education
[3:16:41] institutions didn't offer so she
[3:16:44] had to go out of state and what
[3:16:46] I'm reading too with some of our
[3:16:48] higher education institutions
[3:16:49] you went through fine arts but
[3:16:51] you probably just had one or two
[3:16:54] classes in digital or technology
[3:16:56] yeah it was only just a few that
[3:16:57] were offered but that's kind of
[3:16:59] where I really saw coding as
[3:17:02] an avenue for me and then
[3:17:02] that it exactly like
[3:17:06] I had to join a I received an
[3:17:08] immersive technology fellowship
[3:17:09] that enabled me to travel
[3:17:11] between Los Angeles and New York
[3:17:14] City to learn about social
[3:17:15] entrepreneurship coupled withXR
[3:17:16] technologies so that's kind of
[3:17:18] like what really was
[3:17:20] foundational for me and then
[3:17:22] the supporting the supportive
[3:17:24] environment that NMCc provide
[3:17:25] was really
[3:17:29] huge for me because like even
[3:17:30] I've had family members talk
[3:17:32] down on me saying like why are
[3:17:32] you going down this
[3:17:34] nontraditional path like you
[3:17:35] should just get a regular job
[3:17:37] you know like not believing in
[3:17:40] the vision so like I think that
[3:17:42] I think a lot of entrepreneurs
[3:17:44] we can face an environment like
[3:17:45] that but when we step into a
[3:17:48] supportive environment like NMCc
[3:17:50] that I think is a really like
[3:17:53] a local environment that was
[3:17:54] really helpful for me on my
[3:17:55] journey
[3:17:56] and you think that's one thing
[3:17:58] that I'm not I mean we do try to
[3:18:00] do stuff through our career
[3:18:00] technical education
[3:18:05] but when we talk about a lot of
[3:18:06] this doing with the coding and
[3:18:07] online I don't think our
[3:18:08] curriculum
[3:18:13] still with the traditional
[3:18:15] route but we're not adapting
[3:18:18] very much very quickly and I
[3:18:19] think that's where we end up
[3:18:21] lacking very much behind. Yeah.
[3:18:23] so one of my funders that is
[3:18:25] actually most likely gonna be
[3:18:26] renewed before the end of the
[3:18:28] year and that's the fiscal
[3:18:30] the funding went through the
[3:18:32] these guys as a fiscal agent
[3:18:34] that is the next mission is
[3:18:36] programming especially on the
[3:18:38] Navajo Nation and then
[3:18:39] there's also another source of
[3:18:40] fun
[3:18:42] ding that glittering world girl
[3:18:44] is tapping into to bring
[3:18:46] technologyXR technology
[3:18:47] programming associated with
[3:18:50] mural creation so it's like art
[3:18:52] and technology like s steam
[3:18:55] into Bernnailo County as well so
[3:18:57] yeah and I think that with
[3:19:00] with the budget cuts that
[3:19:02] schools have been seeing this
[3:19:04] could be a model too that
[3:19:06] programming that goes into
[3:19:06] schools and that they don't have
[3:19:09] to fund it themselves so you did
[3:19:10] receive
[3:19:12] money from the nation and that's
[3:19:14] the thing I'm kind of so the the
[3:19:16] bit confused about in some sense
[3:19:17] because you're saying you're the
[3:19:18] only native American nonprofit
[3:19:21] yes you're probably the only
[3:19:24] nonprofit but our tribes nations
[3:19:26] and pueblos do there do you have
[3:19:27] their own economic development
[3:19:29] money but you did not receive it
[3:19:31] or you didn't qualify for it. I
[3:19:36] madam chairir, I I have not
[3:19:37] received money from the Navajo
[3:19:38] Nation.
[3:19:41] you didn't qualify or you didn't
[3:19:43] never applied or what what what
[3:19:45] do you to be clear I did receive
[3:19:47] their the hardship assistance
[3:19:50] that was for the artisans
[3:19:51] during COVID that's the that's
[3:19:53] what I've received from the
[3:19:55] Navajo Nation that was for
[3:19:57] small businesses and artisans
[3:19:59] for COID during theOID pandemic
[3:20:03] but I honestly have not even
[3:20:04] tried to see if I could apply
[3:20:06] for funding from the Navajo
[3:20:06] Nation past that
[3:20:10] so then that's the thing I'm
[3:20:11] wondering too with the nonpro
[3:20:13] you know a nonprofit as far as a
[3:20:16] resource too is that the funding
[3:20:16] also
[3:20:21] that you also put them in touch
[3:20:22] with their own tribes nations
[3:20:24] and publiclos because they find
[3:20:26] that as the fiscal agent that's
[3:20:27] where our money would be
[3:20:28] funneled to to LEA
[3:20:31] in that way and that our tribes
[3:20:33] nations of pueblos can apply for
[3:20:35] it to implement these programs
[3:20:37] within there as far as
[3:20:39] sovereignty and when you were
[3:20:40] speaking about just women
[3:20:41] receiving something like that
[3:20:43] but that I don't think is
[3:20:45] something we do in general we
[3:20:48] try to it's not about sex it's
[3:20:50] just about you know making
[3:20:52] sure everybody has that
[3:20:53] opportunity equal opportunity
[3:20:55] for the funding so very
[3:20:57] interesting but I like very
[3:20:58] much needed for what you're
[3:20:58] doing
[3:21:00] but you know we need further
[3:21:03] discussion and clarity so I do
[3:21:04] offer you to you know talk to
[3:21:05] our members here to to
[3:21:13] ation and even as far as
[3:21:15] moving forward in need I don't
[3:21:16] know if you have any closing
[3:21:16] comments
[3:21:21] madam chairirpresentative
[3:21:24] senators they just want to thank
[3:21:27] you for your patience and time
[3:21:31] and attention and this is
[3:21:34] really important work to us and
[3:21:36] I feel that
[3:21:42] we do an amazing heartfelt
[3:21:44] job with community and we want
[3:21:48] to see it continue so if there
[3:21:50] are opportunities you know of
[3:21:53] that we don't know and to be
[3:21:57] honest I am not as familiar. I
[3:21:59] can talk about grants all day
[3:22:02] longvi donors that kind of thing
[3:22:06] so much the the state facing and
[3:22:06] don't so
[3:22:09] yeah I just want to say thank
[3:22:11] you I appreciate your help and
[3:22:14] if you have any other
[3:22:16] recommendations or tips ok
[3:22:16] wonderful
[3:22:20] do you know thank you so much
[3:22:23] have a very good day thank you
[3:22:25] thank you and now we will move
[3:22:26] on to public comment
[3:22:30] with our people here
[3:22:32] and we don't have anybody online
[3:22:35] so we don't
[3:22:39] 78 people
[3:22:43] So I think Peter's doing it
[3:22:46] oh he's don't say
[3:22:48] someone can call Bill Lee
[3:22:49] outside
[3:22:53] I'll text him. OK
[3:22:56] we can we'll do one before
[3:23:00] before Peter with Peter in there
[3:23:01] with him too
[3:23:03] can Ken's not here
[3:23:06] reagan
[3:23:07] Hawthorne
[3:23:10] may come up introduce yourself
[3:23:46] Good afternoon madam chair
[3:23:46] members of the committee
[3:23:49] thank you for the invitation and
[3:23:52] for the permission to speak. I
[3:23:53] am Reagan Hawthorne. I am from
[3:23:56] the magnolito chapter and the
[3:23:57] community services coordinator
[3:23:58] there at manualito have been
[3:24:00] with manualitto chapter since
[3:24:00] November of last year
[3:24:05] just about a month ago I
[3:24:06] received an invitation through
[3:24:08] email to sit before the
[3:24:10] committee and express some
[3:24:11] thoughts about believe it was
[3:24:12] capital outlay
[3:24:14] I shared that invitation with
[3:24:18] our chapter officials and Mr
[3:24:19] Daniel Lee our chapter president
[3:24:22] is here with me today. I have
[3:24:24] not come with a script per se
[3:24:25] but would have come with is a
[3:24:27] message and a couple of
[3:24:29] inquiries so I'll allow Mr. Lee
[3:24:30] to introduce himself.
[3:24:34] good afternoon. chair
[3:24:38] and committee thank you for
[3:24:39] inviting us and then
[3:24:43] it's like Reagan said my CSE
[3:24:44] and
[3:24:46] then do a little bit of a
[3:24:49] presentation and we'll just do
[3:24:51] it offhands instead of having
[3:24:52] notes and all that so
[3:24:52] thank you
[3:24:59] Again madam chair members of the
[3:25:01] committee representing
[3:25:03] mannuitto chapter first and
[3:25:06] foremost we are a smaller
[3:25:09] chapter our our service area
[3:25:11] probably covers just under1,000
[3:25:13] individuals now who are
[3:25:16] individuals we have numerous
[3:25:18] capital outlay projects we have
[3:25:21] I believe14 projects upwards of
[3:25:24] $6 million that are in the in in
[3:25:25] the cooker so to speak we have a
[3:25:26] number that are very very active
[3:25:27] we have a number
[3:25:31] that are being delayed the
[3:25:32] biggest portion of the delayed
[3:25:34] projects falls upon our
[3:25:34] electrification projects
[3:25:36] the biggest
[3:25:40] obstacle for our electrification
[3:25:42] power line residential projects
[3:25:45] is right of way access given
[3:25:47] the various land statuses that
[3:25:48] we have in your manually to
[3:25:49] chapter of course we're on
[3:25:52] Navajo Trust land we're also on
[3:25:54] allotted land we are on state
[3:25:56] land we have a number of issues
[3:25:57] that are very very challenging
[3:26:00] so getting the rights of way is
[3:26:03] a very very extensive experience
[3:26:06] I am looking right now at one
[3:26:07] particular project that has
[3:26:10] been on the books for manuallito
[3:26:14] chapters since 2008 and the
[3:26:15] biggest hindrance there is the
[3:26:18] right of way access. now the
[3:26:20] the contracting company
[3:26:21] continental Divide has done
[3:26:23] their share of reaching out.
[3:26:26] They are in now in the fourth
[3:26:29] round of sending out appeals for
[3:26:30] right of way through allottees
[3:26:32] and things of that nature. So
[3:26:34] and where I'm going with this is
[3:26:36] I I would like to see some sort
[3:26:37] of a
[3:26:41] an amendment or an addressing of
[3:26:43] an issue here in these kinds of
[3:26:46] situations where where a lottes
[3:26:48] and other land issues are really
[3:26:50] an obstacle to getting the right
[3:26:51] of way in for these
[3:26:53] electrification projects we
[3:26:55] have4 clients on this particular
[3:26:57] project that have been waiting
[3:26:58] for power for
[3:27:00] a number of years 20 since 2008
[3:27:03] and if there if there could be
[3:27:05] some some investigatory
[3:27:06] committee or something perhaps
[3:27:08] we can offer some solutions
[3:27:10] perhaps manuallito chapter
[3:27:13] could be more forward more more
[3:27:17] proactive in reaching out to
[3:27:19] the allottees but the biggest
[3:27:20] obstacle that we're seeing is
[3:27:24] right of way just gaining
[3:27:25] right of way
[3:27:29] whether whether it be you know
[3:27:30] the the allottes on the
[3:27:32] allotment lands there are some
[3:27:34] state land issues we we're
[3:27:34] just
[3:27:38] I'm going to say we're we're a
[3:27:40] little frustrated at it of
[3:27:41] course they're there are there
[3:27:42] are other issues there are there
[3:27:45] are some systems systemic issues
[3:27:47] within the the processes
[3:27:49] withnavo Nation there are other
[3:27:50] issues there but the biggest
[3:27:52] problem we have is gaining right
[3:27:54] of way so for the
[3:27:54] electrification
[3:27:59] secondly I would appeal to
[3:28:00] this committee
[3:28:06] to advocate for a voice in an
[3:28:09] area called manualito Big House
[3:28:11] Ruins. It is a national historic
[3:28:15] landmark there are3 families
[3:28:16] that have been in that area
[3:28:19] that that that that that's their
[3:28:22] homeland and they do not have
[3:28:23] the basic
[3:28:27] infrastructure needed they do
[3:28:28] not have water lines they do not
[3:28:29] have power
[3:28:33] I am meeting Wednesday with
[3:28:35] these families on what I have
[3:28:38] coined as the big house task
[3:28:41] forcece. What I want to do is
[3:28:43] gain an audience with our
[3:28:45] Navonation source and
[3:28:46] Developmentittee to see if we
[3:28:49] can't advocate that this
[3:28:50] property which is on state land
[3:28:53] there is on the fringes of this
[3:28:54] property
[3:28:55] a power line
[3:28:58] one of the families on this
[3:28:58] property does have power
[3:29:02] but there are two other families
[3:29:03] there that have no power and
[3:29:05] have no water. the families that
[3:29:07] are that are without the water
[3:29:08] they do
[3:29:10] live on a cistern system
[3:29:14] but the fellow's getting old and
[3:29:15] he can't operate that cistern
[3:29:18] and these things these are not
[3:29:21] gonna change so my petition here
[3:29:23] particularly tends to a voice
[3:29:27] perhaps a voice with the state
[3:29:29] land board with from our
[3:29:31] constituents there at manualito
[3:29:33] through thenavo Nation Resource
[3:29:35] and Development Committee. I
[3:29:37] don't pretend to be a a
[3:29:39] magnanimous voice for everybody
[3:29:40] but I believe if we have the
[3:29:42] backing of our own council that
[3:29:44] we can talk to the the New
[3:29:45] Mexico State Land Commission and
[3:29:46] through this committee here
[3:29:47] perhaps gain
[3:29:52] gain some ground on bringing
[3:29:53] infrastructure to these families
[3:29:56] that live on the on the the
[3:29:58] perimeters of this historic
[3:30:00] landmark so those are my two
[3:30:01] messages today
[3:30:08] Yeah I like to add to that we
[3:30:09] did contact
[3:30:10] Santape
[3:30:12] and
[3:30:16] they just told us to get
[3:30:18] representative like you guys and
[3:30:19] saying that ok
[3:30:24] we we know about the spartan
[3:30:24] all this
[3:30:29] other stuff like GPS and all
[3:30:32] that and you know you guys know
[3:30:34] whereabouts this place is then
[3:30:38] they recommendations and then
[3:30:40] that way they can somebody from
[3:30:42] the commission can override it
[3:30:42] and that's the reason why we're
[3:30:44] here and
[3:30:49] even with the roads that's the
[3:30:50] reason why some of our capital
[3:30:52] outlay went and reverted back
[3:30:53] and we tried working
[3:30:55] with the
[3:30:58] county commissioners
[3:31:00] and then
[3:31:01] some of our
[3:31:03] projects
[3:31:07] went and reverted back and it's
[3:31:10] due to the consents like he said
[3:31:14] well right away and then now
[3:31:15] they said that they revoked it
[3:31:16] all the
[3:31:18] MOUs so
[3:31:20] we don't know
[3:31:23] you know what's going to happen
[3:31:25] now because a lot of people that
[3:31:26] are in a community has
[3:31:28] kids that go to school
[3:31:33] and at the same time they
[3:31:34] commute
[3:31:34] to gallup
[3:31:35] so
[3:31:40] with that being said
[3:31:43] we should like to have them help
[3:31:44] from you guys
[3:31:45] as far as
[3:31:50] and doing all this other stuff
[3:31:51] and then that way we can move on
[3:31:54] with our projects and improve on
[3:31:57] some of the roads and provide
[3:31:59] service like water service and
[3:32:01] power line to these community
[3:32:03] members that's what we're asking
[3:32:06] of today and at the same time
[3:32:08] on the other hand
[3:32:12] my wife is a teacher in Tohachi
[3:32:14] and they moved us to
[3:32:20] twin lakes and we do have issues
[3:32:21] with the power line and water
[3:32:25] there's no power there's no
[3:32:26] pressure in the water most of
[3:32:27] the time
[3:32:31] and then in the middle of my
[3:32:32] wife doing her lesson plan
[3:32:36] the power goes off there's no
[3:32:39] surcharge or anything we
[3:32:40] complained about that so many
[3:32:41] times
[3:32:44] every time it goes out we
[3:32:44] complain to
[3:32:46] NTUA
[3:32:48] they had done nothing
[3:32:53] and even our our street light
[3:32:54] right outside our trailer
[3:32:57] it just goes out they haven't
[3:32:58] done nothing about it
[3:32:58] so
[3:33:00] that's
[3:33:04] the other thing that I wanted to
[3:33:06] add to twin Lakes that were
[3:33:06] here present
[3:33:08] during the presentation
[3:33:09] thank you
[3:33:14] thank you thank you for your
[3:33:16] your words there and we'll move
[3:33:19] on to our next Bille and then
[3:33:20] I don't know if Peter is
[3:33:27] Oh yeah so this is public
[3:33:28] comment so we don't want to ask
[3:33:28] questions but I'll talk
[3:33:47] Good afternoon madam chair
[3:33:49] members of the committee staff
[3:33:50] thank you for allowing me a few
[3:33:52] minutes today my name is Bill
[3:33:54] Lee I'm with KJg Strategy
[3:33:56] registered lobbyists for
[3:33:58] Levanova a company devoted to
[3:34:01] helping people living with
[3:34:03] drug resistant epilepsy or what
[3:34:06] is referred to as DRE I want
[3:34:06] to say thank you to
[3:34:08] Representative Lindstrom. She
[3:34:09] along with Representative
[3:34:11] Herndon have sponsored
[3:34:13] legislation concerning this
[3:34:14] issue that I bring before you
[3:34:14] today during public comment
[3:34:18] leavingvanova manufactures
[3:34:19] what is called a vagus nerve
[3:34:22] stimulation a BNS therapy
[3:34:23] treatment that can actually
[3:34:25] reduce seizures and improve a
[3:34:27] patient's quality of life. it's
[3:34:28] been approved by the FDA and has
[3:34:30] been been available for ir0
[3:34:32] years. Today what I'd like to
[3:34:35] share more than the the the VNS
[3:34:37] system itself is the impact that
[3:34:38] people living with drug
[3:34:41] resistant epilepsy in a face in
[3:34:43] New Mexico when most people hear
[3:34:44] that word epilepsy they think
[3:34:45] this is a
[3:34:46] condition that can be controlled
[3:34:48] primarily by medication but the
[3:34:51] sad truth is about1 in3
[3:34:53] individuals is not treatable or
[3:34:54] they are not treatable by
[3:34:56] medications and so despite
[3:34:59] trying several anti seizure
[3:35:01] therapies and medications
[3:35:02] these patients are considered to
[3:35:03] have what is called drug
[3:35:06] resistant epilepsy DRE and
[3:35:08] for these patients a seizure is
[3:35:10] more than just an event it can
[3:35:12] actually be life threatening
[3:35:14] and lead to death. as this
[3:35:14] challenge dis
[3:35:16] p ro port ion ate ly affects
[3:35:17] some of New Mexico's most
[3:35:20] vulnerable populations and
[3:35:22] that is why we are in particular
[3:35:24] speaking about this today in
[3:35:25] front of this committeesearch
[3:35:26] shows that Native American
[3:35:28] communities experience a greater
[3:35:31] burden of epilepsy and epilepsy
[3:35:33] related disparities than many
[3:35:34] other populations in fact the
[3:35:36] Navajo nation it is estimated
[3:35:40] alone has about1600 cases of
[3:35:43] drug resistant epilepsy yet
[3:35:44] despite this need New Mexico has
[3:35:44] been left
[3:35:47] with an extraordinary access
[3:35:49] problem and a challenge that
[3:35:51] we still face today. The
[3:35:52] Universityiv of New Mexico
[3:35:53] hospitalspital is the only
[3:35:55] hospital in our state performing
[3:35:59] VNS implant procedures and we
[3:36:02] may soon lose them as the
[3:36:05] only provider in the state the
[3:36:06] reason is simple the low
[3:36:09] medicaid reimbursement to
[3:36:11] hospitals for the procedure is
[3:36:13] far too low and has not changed
[3:36:14] since 2014 when
[3:36:17] an entire state depends on a
[3:36:19] single hospital for access to
[3:36:20] specialized therapy patients and
[3:36:22] families often face of course
[3:36:24] significant barriers manyy must
[3:36:26] travel long distances multiple
[3:36:29] times consultations surgery
[3:36:31] and followup care. Some require
[3:36:33] transportation assistance. this
[3:36:35] includes airlifts from places
[3:36:37] like Gallup others simply do
[3:36:38] not have the financial means and
[3:36:40] the family support of logistical
[3:36:42] ability to make these trips and
[3:36:44] so wait times again as we
[3:36:46] all know for specialists in the
[3:36:48] state can be extraordinarily
[3:36:51] long. All of these barriers
[3:36:53] result in patients continually
[3:36:54] cycling through the emergency
[3:36:55] rooms and through hospital
[3:36:58] admissions resulting in much
[3:36:59] higher costs for not only the
[3:37:01] families but for our own
[3:37:03] healthcare authority here in New
[3:37:04] Mexico because the system just
[3:37:06] keeps recycling these folks
[3:37:07] rather than treating what is
[3:37:08] there
[3:37:11] what we know is that there is
[3:37:13] funding through medicaid
[3:37:15] available and actually the state
[3:37:17] is leaving dollars on the table
[3:37:18] by not getting full
[3:37:20] reimbursement for this
[3:37:23] procedure. we have this issue
[3:37:25] now before thelfC and have put
[3:37:28] that there we may hopefully
[3:37:29] call on Representative
[3:37:30] Lindstrom and Representative
[3:37:32] Herndon again to carry
[3:37:34] legislation just to bolster that
[3:37:37] support in thelfC so this
[3:37:38] is not simply
[3:37:40] a reimbursement discussion it
[3:37:42] really is an access issue it's a
[3:37:44] rural healthcare issue obviously
[3:37:46] and it is a tribal healthcare
[3:37:48] issue today we ask for your
[3:37:50] legislative support to get the
[3:37:52] department to cover the cost to
[3:37:54] help improve the health and
[3:37:55] quality of life for New Mexicans
[3:37:56] dealing with drug resistant
[3:37:59] epilepsy we want to regre again
[3:38:00] Representative Lenstone,
[3:38:01] Representative Herndon who've
[3:38:04] carried this legislation and are
[3:38:05] working to resolve this issue
[3:38:07] along our side and we thank you
[3:38:08] for your time
[3:38:11] thank you for coming to gallup.
[3:38:13] this is my hometown we're glad
[3:38:14] you're here and thank you for
[3:38:15] your commitment to serve New
[3:38:17] Mexicans everywhere with that
[3:38:18] madam chairir, I'll yield. thank
[3:38:22] Thank you Peterammpo
[3:38:34] Yes
[3:38:37] hey hey hey hey come on it
[3:38:39] wasn't it wasn't that bad from
[3:38:40] what I remember
[3:38:43] right madam chair members of the
[3:38:45] committee and guests first
[3:38:46] and foremost I would like to
[3:38:46] welcome you all to gallup
[3:38:50] I know this wasn't the
[3:38:52] planned meeting location but we
[3:38:54] are glad to have you here and we
[3:38:55] would welcome you guys coming
[3:38:57] back anytime for any other
[3:38:58] committees that you might have
[3:39:00] so I hope that you guys have
[3:39:01] felt warm a warm welcome here
[3:39:03] and hopefully we'll see I know I
[3:39:04] will see you guys during
[3:39:06] legislative session and
[3:39:07] hopefully before then as well.
[3:39:09] some of you I know very well
[3:39:10] and some of you I've met maybe
[3:39:12] once or twice over at the
[3:39:13] state capitol and I hope to get
[3:39:16] you to know you as well as my
[3:39:16] my mentor here Bill
[3:39:19] is so he obviously had a little
[3:39:21] bit different of an agenda than
[3:39:22] what I did. I just wanted to
[3:39:23] make sure that you guys felt
[3:39:25] welcome here there is one
[3:39:26] thing that I would like to bring
[3:39:28] to this committee it's been
[3:39:29] talked about
[3:39:31] in other places and maybe you
[3:39:32] guys can give us a legup
[3:39:35] as you know we have been
[3:39:37] flooded in this area not only in
[3:39:39] the gallup area but in McKinley
[3:39:40] County and and across the state
[3:39:41] for that matter
[3:39:43] we are going to need some
[3:39:44] help
[3:39:46] not only in gallup but in the
[3:39:47] county
[3:39:51] to get our flood systems up to
[3:39:53] speed and be able to handle
[3:39:54] capacity now yes this might be
[3:39:55] an abnormal year for storms
[3:39:59] but as you've seen on some of
[3:40:00] the video that's been taken
[3:40:00] especially up in the Mexican
[3:40:03] spprings area and and up in
[3:40:04] northern McKinley County I mean
[3:40:06] they've had entire roads that
[3:40:07] have been washed out by the
[3:40:09] floods and it's more just
[3:40:11] because we haven't had enough
[3:40:13] foresight to plan for that kind
[3:40:15] of capacity of water gallup
[3:40:18] also does suffer from that
[3:40:20] you know we have a a majority
[3:40:21] population that is native
[3:40:22] American so I feel that this
[3:40:23] committee is appropriate to
[3:40:24] address to help us at least get
[3:40:25] the
[3:40:28] conversation started on
[3:40:29] possibly upgrading our storm
[3:40:32] drainage systems most if not
[3:40:35] all of our storm drains are only
[3:40:36] partially concreted
[3:40:38] so when you go to bigger urban
[3:40:39] areas most of the storm drainage
[3:40:41] in the arroyos and like in
[3:40:42] Albuquerque and other areas
[3:40:43] they're fully concrete so they
[3:40:44] don't have erosion problems like
[3:40:45] we see here
[3:40:49] when we get runoff from the
[3:40:51] rains that happened in our area
[3:40:52] it comes right through downtown
[3:40:54] Gallup and we get everything
[3:40:55] that comes along with it the
[3:40:57] silt and the the debris and
[3:40:58] everything but the most of
[3:41:01] our arroyo system through the
[3:41:03] gallup area from the Rio Puerco
[3:41:08] is not fully concreted so we
[3:41:09] are constantly having to do
[3:41:10] maintenance on it and I say we
[3:41:11] very loosely it's the community
[3:41:14] it's the city the county they
[3:41:14] they have to constantly maintain
[3:41:15] these because
[3:41:18] we are inundated with silt
[3:41:21] debris mud and we also run into
[3:41:23] jurisdictional issues from what
[3:41:25] I've been told that where the
[3:41:27] the land is like some of the the
[3:41:29] people that have presented today
[3:41:30] the land is owned by the state
[3:41:33] the land is owned by BNSf or
[3:41:35] other entities and it's hard to
[3:41:37] acquire the proper permission to
[3:41:39] do maintenance on the storm
[3:41:40] drainage system. So I just
[3:41:42] wanted to start the conversation
[3:41:43] here I've I've talked with
[3:41:44] the the city manager about it. I
[3:41:45] haven't had the chance to talk
[3:41:45] with the
[3:41:48] county about it but I figured
[3:41:50] that we could start the the the
[3:41:51] conversation and maybe I can
[3:41:52] work with our my local
[3:41:54] legislators so that we can get
[3:41:55] this maybe get something
[3:42:00] Other than that I would again
[3:42:02] welcome here to gallup. I hope
[3:42:03] you guys enjoy your time
[3:42:04] here. I know it sounds like
[3:42:05] you're going to Aamma. I don't
[3:42:06] know if you're spending the
[3:42:07] night here but if you need any
[3:42:08] recommendations on where to eat
[3:42:10] dinner or something like that we
[3:42:11] are the visitors center for
[3:42:12] gallup. thank you guys for
[3:42:12] coming.
[3:42:17] a thank you Peter and I have
[3:42:18] joanne as
[3:42:22] left already OK Dorisinnali
[3:42:35] Good evening
[3:42:38] I should say good late evening
[3:42:43] welcome to gallup I'm here again
[3:42:44] to listen to you young ones
[3:42:48] thank you so much for coming
[3:42:49] back to gallup. You had a visit
[3:42:53] in haitichie not too long ago a
[3:42:55] lot of our comments were met in
[3:42:57] everything thank you being a
[3:42:59] young ones learning from our
[3:43:00] elders here
[3:43:03] senator
[3:43:12] senator Charlie, I'd like to
[3:43:12] commend you
[3:43:15] I come from a family of veterans
[3:43:19] during this last flooding we had
[3:43:22] down at zunni boots on the
[3:43:25] ground boots on the ground. she
[3:43:26] was there she had her canoe
[3:43:30] it made me so proud to see you
[3:43:30] young ones there
[3:43:34] question you ask thank you
[3:43:36] beautiful questions I have
[3:43:37] experience working at NCI
[3:43:41] soup kitchen
[3:43:44] I'm a devout Catholic but I
[3:43:45] still sin
[3:43:51] I retired from the BIA thirty5
[3:43:52] years of service at the federal
[3:43:52] building
[3:43:56] I'd like to help at the homeless
[3:43:59] shelter and a soup kitchen here
[3:44:01] in gallup. I invited the
[3:44:03] governor on a few occasions to
[3:44:04] come and join me
[3:44:08] my concern at the soup kitchen
[3:44:09] with theha health in the city of
[3:44:11] Gallup and the mayor who gave
[3:44:12] the report
[3:44:14] I did not hear one
[3:44:19] make a comment. I come from a
[3:44:20] family of veterans how they
[3:44:22] helping our veterans how they're
[3:44:25] meeting the veterans75% of the
[3:44:27] clients there are veterans young
[3:44:28] veterans
[3:44:32] and it's sad it's very sad
[3:44:32] they're being ignored
[3:44:35] I come from a family
[3:44:36] of native
[3:44:37] artists
[3:44:43] I want you to take a visit next
[3:44:47] door all of you go walk down the
[3:44:48] streets except Richardson's pond
[3:44:52] you can't pond there but anyway
[3:44:52] keep going
[3:44:58] 75 % of our jewelry outlet here
[3:44:58] in Gallup
[3:45:02] are not owned by native
[3:45:02] Americans
[3:45:06] they're owned by our visitors
[3:45:09] the Arab nation
[3:45:14] a lot of their jewelry you see
[3:45:16] underneath his maiden chi made
[3:45:17] in Korea.
[3:45:19] you want to see the one I'm
[3:45:20] wearing
[3:45:23] it's cheap but you know it still
[3:45:24] works
[3:45:29] I challenge you I challenge you
[3:45:31] to we talk about alcohol tax
[3:45:37] Starting from the east of Gallup
[3:45:39] drive all the way down count the
[3:45:42] dispensaries liquor stores to
[3:45:44] the west side go to the north
[3:45:46] go to the south
[3:45:52] count every one of them please
[3:45:55] alcohol outlets and dispensary
[3:45:56] shops.
[3:46:01] All days dispensary shops here
[3:46:03] in gallup all these alcohol
[3:46:08] the new dispensary shops you see
[3:46:09] in Gallllup are now used to be
[3:46:11] liquor establishments
[3:46:18] That
[3:46:24] information they gave Mrchapatti
[3:46:29] gave here it had75% of
[3:46:30] Navajo's
[3:46:32] here in Gallup who have an
[3:46:32] addiction
[3:46:38] and I've always argued where is
[3:46:40] our alcohol tax co?
[3:46:44] my question today is and I
[3:46:48] invite you to ask this where is
[3:46:49] the dispensary tax going
[3:46:57] Please do that we need to they
[3:46:59] talk about us andnavajos when it
[3:47:00] comes to
[3:47:03] alcoholiclici
[3:47:07] anyway my relatives I call him
[3:47:09] I'm glad to hearpresentative
[3:47:11] Abeta called them our relatives
[3:47:14] it is true we'renavajos
[3:47:16] everybody's related to us they
[3:47:18] are our relatives and when I go
[3:47:18] at the
[3:47:22] homeless in the soup kitchen
[3:47:23] here in Gallup
[3:47:26] I called them in my native
[3:47:29] tongue my brother my sister my
[3:47:32] uncle my grandpa my parents she
[3:47:32] ya sele
[3:47:34] shouldnna
[3:47:37] and their veterans I greet them
[3:47:39] in that way and it feels good
[3:47:42] when I go there because my own
[3:47:43] grandchildren don't call me
[3:47:44] grandma.
[3:47:47] these clients call me from my
[3:47:51] son and I feel wanted needed
[3:47:53] well that's a joke but anyway
[3:47:56] that's all they want to say to
[3:47:58] all of you to please the good
[3:47:59] question to ask about
[3:48:02] NCI to them
[3:48:04] percentage
[3:48:07] discrimination, keep those
[3:48:10] questions coming please keep
[3:48:11] them coming to gallup. Gallup
[3:48:12] needs to hear this
[3:48:17] so that's all I have am I up for
[3:48:18] five minutes or can I go more?
[3:48:18] Yeah
[3:48:22] thank you thank you know you'll
[3:48:22] visit me
[3:48:24] Lary Foster
[3:48:34] good afternoon
[3:48:35] the
[3:48:39] committee here coming from
[3:48:40] different parts of New Mexico
[3:48:44] and I wanted to say a few
[3:48:45] things here some of this was
[3:48:48] stated this morning in the
[3:48:49] presentation by the city of
[3:48:50] Gallup
[3:48:53] their officials a mayor and
[3:48:54] the the city manager
[3:48:56] and the
[3:48:58] mental health department
[3:49:01] of course yeah
[3:49:04] ard ge ant Linibe hadti think so
[3:49:07] my name is Larry Foster
[3:49:10] and my wife is over here maddie
[3:49:14] I'm from the townhouse rockck
[3:49:15] people lankyon in
[3:49:18] adolani manco people
[3:49:22] on the second son of a Navajo
[3:49:22] coat talker
[3:49:26] Here they used to have the code
[3:49:27] talker meetings monthly in here
[3:49:28] in this building
[3:49:29] so
[3:49:34] the perspective of the city
[3:49:36] presentation this mornings
[3:49:36] from their administrative
[3:49:39] some of the data is kind of
[3:49:40] shortcoming
[3:49:42] they might have been using the
[3:49:44] old data or or some missing data
[3:49:50] but it's very well taken but my
[3:49:51] perspective right now is from
[3:49:52] the human rights
[3:49:56] and the civil rights of our the
[3:49:57] indigenous people
[3:50:02] nor cotten nepain that's what
[3:50:04] we're called but the state in
[3:50:05] New Mexico calls usnavajos
[3:50:11] sookota so during their
[3:50:13] rainstorms that we had recently
[3:50:16] we saw a lot of things that
[3:50:18] happened here in Gallup. I think
[3:50:20] that made the city of Gallup
[3:50:22] depressed particularly people
[3:50:22] that live on the north side
[3:50:26] up on 9th Street in Maloney
[3:50:28] the people that lived there they
[3:50:28] were angry
[3:50:32] and then of course they
[3:50:34] were confused about the politics
[3:50:35] of Gallup
[3:50:37] who is in the leadership
[3:50:42] and then of course there
[3:50:42] was a lot of stress
[3:50:43] so
[3:50:47] from that I I gathered there was
[3:50:49] a lot of jealousy among the
[3:50:51] leaders. Most recently we had a
[3:50:53] changeover of the mayor
[3:50:56] so what you're seeing here that
[3:50:57] presented this morning that
[3:50:58] that's a new mayor
[3:51:01] he's involved it's mainly
[3:51:02] administrative
[3:51:06] but I think he's kind of weak
[3:51:06] on human rights, civil rights
[3:51:10] so that's
[3:51:15] directed to the chapters the
[3:51:18] sovereignty issue consolidation
[3:51:25] actct of19781988199 or 208 they
[3:51:28] need to utilize that act over
[3:51:28] here in uhnavajo land
[3:51:33] particularly uhRock Springs,
[3:51:34] Mangnito
[3:51:37] ra cheatuo
[3:51:41] they're gonna build some things
[3:51:43] over here pretty quick and I
[3:51:44] think a lot of the community is
[3:51:47] not well informed on that
[3:51:48] particularly chapters
[3:51:51] so that I don't know why they're
[3:51:52] holding back
[3:51:54] so they shouldn't do that with
[3:51:56] these laws that are in the state
[3:51:57] of New Mexico that are
[3:51:58] implemented 20 years ago
[3:52:03] so along with the increase of
[3:52:05] liquor what was mentioned at
[3:52:06] Speedway
[3:52:10] and then the the the marijuana
[3:52:10] outlets
[3:52:14] that causes a lot of a child
[3:52:14] abandonment what I've seen
[3:52:18] and then they they did
[3:52:18] mention any street birth
[3:52:22] or unsheltered native veterans
[3:52:28] those were the data what they
[3:52:29] had that's what I mean
[3:52:30] misinformation of data
[3:52:34] go over here to westgallllup
[3:52:35] there's a lot of abandoned
[3:52:36] buildings there's graffiti,
[3:52:38] there's potholes our relatives
[3:52:40] are living under the bridges
[3:52:42] Interstate40 tent cities
[3:52:46] and yet deborah Martinez
[3:52:46] mentioned that
[3:52:48] I think that
[3:52:51] my wife and I we go out
[3:52:54] the flea market under the
[3:52:56] culverts yeah they're dangerous
[3:52:57] people are high on fentanyl
[3:53:02] but we try to talk to them we
[3:53:03] try to start a a talking circle
[3:53:07] we went down to the burrito
[3:53:10] project outlet and we weren't
[3:53:11] very welcome because we're
[3:53:12] talking Navajo
[3:53:16] to start talking circle talking
[3:53:17] about the problems in Navajo
[3:53:18] so we let it go
[3:53:23] so I think my recommendation is
[3:53:24] here
[3:53:28] with all these problems that
[3:53:29] one thing I want to mention
[3:53:30] about McKinley County school
[3:53:33] system I think we really need
[3:53:34] to get involved with the
[3:53:34] yasemartinez
[3:53:36] case
[3:53:40] The judge said that a couple of
[3:53:43] months ago the federal funding
[3:53:44] the federal impact aid
[3:53:48] we need to review that a little
[3:53:49] bit more work with the Navajo
[3:53:50] Nation Department of Education
[3:53:51] NDOJ
[3:53:55] that involves it Johnson
[3:53:56] O'malley funds Title 06 and7.
[3:54:01] we don't want to misuse that and
[3:54:02] let it sit somewhere
[3:54:06] that's happening now the lawsuit
[3:54:06] that might come out of that
[3:54:11] so in closing I want to say that
[3:54:13] to improve some of this quality
[3:54:16] of life, my recommendation is
[3:54:18] we need to get a grant rider
[3:54:18] over there at the mayor's office
[3:54:20] let's help the mayor
[3:54:21] see your manager
[3:54:27] and get an indigenous task force
[3:54:29] in order. There's people like
[3:54:30] myself that
[3:54:33] I wanted to to help the city of
[3:54:34] Gallup
[3:54:36] I've been here for my wife and I
[3:54:37] over30 years
[3:54:41] and then to review some of the
[3:54:42] contracts
[3:54:44] I don't know who takes care of
[3:54:45] the contracts over there it
[3:54:46] sounds like it's just one person
[3:54:51] so this is all about the
[3:54:54] public health human rights civil
[3:54:55] rights
[3:54:56] so
[3:55:00] I mentioned to the city manager
[3:55:02] we need to develop MOs with
[3:55:03] others M will you try to
[3:55:04] understand
[3:55:06] thenavajo
[3:55:09] nation and their departments
[3:55:10] health
[3:55:14] mental health how the DOJ
[3:55:14] works over there
[3:55:18] likewise with the surrounding
[3:55:19] tribes Aama and Naguna
[3:55:22] were all part of this area
[3:55:26] this circle so thank you for
[3:55:26] your time
[3:55:31] maddie Foster did you want to
[3:55:50] Colin you're presenting later
[3:55:51] what did you want to do public
[3:55:52] comment or are you
[3:55:56] good
[3:56:18] Actually I signed up I thought
[3:56:20] it was sign in sheet but
[3:56:22] actually I guess I got called
[3:56:26] out called in called up here but
[3:56:27] anyway
[3:56:30] my name is maddie Foster and my
[3:56:32] client is with ondo to by the
[3:56:34] machine touchy nationalinando
[3:56:36] shin the shi cheong a
[3:56:37] a
[3:56:43] I'm a lady here and my husband
[3:56:45] he's said th30 years actually
[3:56:46] it's50 years
[3:56:48] so
[3:56:50] we've beenga was a girlup we
[3:56:52] live and he was a galla with our
[3:56:54] children and our grandchildren
[3:56:56] and they all go to school at
[3:56:58] Gallup McKinney County School.
[3:56:58] so
[3:57:04] I guess what my complaint would
[3:57:05] be
[3:57:10] I lived in Galla for most of my
[3:57:12] years and I see what's going on
[3:57:13] and
[3:57:18] it's heartbreaking as a mother
[3:57:22] as a ali and and thennavajo lady
[3:57:26] that you see a relatives on
[3:57:26] the streets
[3:57:31] they all need help
[3:57:34] I seen a little girl she was
[3:57:37] about 9 or10 years old on the
[3:57:39] street and I thought what is she
[3:57:40] doing here? Where's her parents
[3:57:44] and there she went
[3:57:48] following this one person older
[3:57:49] man
[3:57:56] and he does heartbreaking so us
[3:57:59] ladies as woman native women we
[3:58:00] need to do a lot of
[3:58:01] work
[3:58:07] like they're saying outreach my
[3:58:09] husband and I are both retired
[3:58:11] our work atingate High School
[3:58:13] for48 years and eight months
[3:58:14] with the students and
[3:58:19] my husband worked at PhS forth38
[3:58:21] years so we're both retired and
[3:58:24] we do a lot of volunteer work
[3:58:27] no right now we don't get paid
[3:58:29] we just go out there who needs
[3:58:31] help or maybe one of the
[3:58:34] projects needs help or somebody
[3:58:35] that needs food
[3:58:39] so this takes most of our time
[3:58:40] and whoever
[3:58:42] we go
[3:58:48] we just offer our help
[3:58:53] on the west side too there's a
[3:58:54] lot of graffiti and
[3:58:58] like my husband said there's a
[3:59:00] lot of buildings or boarded up
[3:59:04] need to bring more business or
[3:59:05] clean it up
[3:59:06] and
[3:59:11] even at Gallllup High School we
[3:59:13] mention it to the superintendent
[3:59:16] that left at the pavement
[3:59:16] needs to be paved
[3:59:18] and
[3:59:23] the other day I think one of
[3:59:26] they got excused early because
[3:59:28] the air conditioner or something
[3:59:31] that wasn't working so we gallup
[3:59:33] high needs a new school
[3:59:36] buildingallllup High School and
[3:59:41] we need a lot of parents
[3:59:44] involvement that's what we're
[3:59:44] lacking too
[3:59:48] thats we try to represent a lot
[3:59:50] of native students atallllup
[3:59:51] high school where they mean
[3:59:52] being mistreated
[3:59:56] and we go to to go to the school
[3:59:58] board meeting and try to voice
[4:00:01] our opinion but they always call
[4:00:03] the security saying there comes
[4:00:06] a fosters better call the
[4:00:06] security so
[4:00:11] ashley we're trying to help help
[4:00:14] the students or represent them
[4:00:17] and also the JOM money too is to
[4:00:21] sit in atonderrock and where we
[4:00:24] used to sponsored nativist
[4:00:26] culture at Gallllup High
[4:00:27] School
[4:00:29] and at tourpin
[4:00:32] that that's not happening
[4:00:38] so when you are jail and money
[4:00:41] back to the school and we talked
[4:00:42] with Bo Nagrin
[4:00:42] that
[4:00:47] this is how our native students
[4:00:50] are getting treated amongcinney
[4:00:51] County School. he was going to
[4:00:54] set up our office here and all
[4:00:57] our native unsheltered
[4:01:00] relatives to on the streets I'll
[4:01:00] work with them it never happened
[4:01:04] so when he was campaigning again
[4:01:06] at the flea market approached
[4:01:10] him. where's the office for you
[4:01:11] promised us when you were
[4:01:14] campaigning I'll work on it. No
[4:01:14] your term is over
[4:01:20] so we approached the new
[4:01:22] administration Justin Jones and
[4:01:24] he said he's gonna work on it
[4:01:27] with the gallupmcckinley County
[4:01:28] School
[4:01:30] why our natives are getting
[4:01:30] discriminated
[4:01:32] and
[4:01:37] with the native unsheltered
[4:01:40] relatives too we need we need
[4:01:40] help we told him
[4:01:43] so this and his campaign
[4:01:47] hopefully he pays a lot of
[4:01:50] attention to what everybody is
[4:01:53] asking him to do for his new
[4:01:56] administration so that's all I
[4:01:57] have to offer thank you
[4:02:00] you haveella Wilson
[4:02:07] president would you like to come
[4:02:08] up
[4:02:27] Good afternoon
[4:02:31] the audition and I madam
[4:02:32] chairir
[4:02:35] in an affairs committee each and
[4:02:36] every one of you legislators
[4:02:39] representatives senators I
[4:02:41] appreciate your time you're
[4:02:42] spending here in Gallup. My name
[4:02:44] is Elvispazzilli. I am
[4:02:45] currently the tragic chapter
[4:02:48] president. This is my first term
[4:02:50] as the president for our chapter
[4:02:50] and
[4:02:54] I'm here today not I wasn't
[4:02:57] expecting to make a report or
[4:02:58] just give you an update on what
[4:02:59] we're doing but I don't mind you
[4:02:59] know it's not a
[4:03:02] not a biggie for me because I
[4:03:04] present it to you before you
[4:03:06] were in in Tohatchie
[4:03:09] earlier this year last late last
[4:03:11] year so madam chair again the
[4:03:13] committee I appreciate the time
[4:03:14] that we have here this morning
[4:03:16] and this afternoon. I wanted
[4:03:18] just to update you real briefly
[4:03:20] on what we're doing as a chapter
[4:03:23] I inherited I would say 20
[4:03:26] to30 depending ongoing projects
[4:03:28] coming from the previous
[4:03:28] leadership
[4:03:32] and that is going forward for
[4:03:35] our chapter and we've added
[4:03:38] probably 20 more projects to our
[4:03:40] chapter and pending and you know
[4:03:41] we're
[4:03:44] we're prioritizing what we have
[4:03:47] meaning our our ICIP
[4:03:49] infrastructure capital
[4:03:51] improvement plan we have our top
[4:03:52] priority listing for that that's
[4:03:55] been ongoing for for several
[4:03:57] years I just wanted update
[4:03:59] you on that real briefly our
[4:04:01] priority projects for Tahachi is
[4:04:02] our first responders safety
[4:04:04] complex Our second one is our
[4:04:07] warehouses our chapter warehouse
[4:04:08] our third is our highway491
[4:04:08] lighting
[4:04:12] we are fortunate and blessed
[4:04:15] to have been awarded50,000 from
[4:04:18] our our senator and
[4:04:20] representatives for this year
[4:04:22] for our safety complex and that
[4:04:25] money will be expended we
[4:04:29] were we'd been expending I'd
[4:04:31] say close to4 million over the
[4:04:33] past three or four years so far
[4:04:35] from capital outlay funding for
[4:04:38] our cap safety complex so we
[4:04:38] are looking for for more money
[4:04:39] we've
[4:04:43] applied again for our TI funds
[4:04:44] we're again we're gonna we're
[4:04:47] we have applied and we are going
[4:04:49] to apply again just a brief
[4:04:50] update on that on our priority
[4:04:52] projects and like I said we do
[4:04:54] have several other projects that
[4:04:57] are ongoing for our chapter and
[4:04:58] there is a lot of work there is
[4:05:00] a lot of work we're working
[4:05:02] diligently with our naval Nation
[4:05:04] community development department
[4:05:06] we're working with the state of
[4:05:08] New Mexico we're working with
[4:05:08] other entities locally
[4:05:14] in the county in regards
[4:05:15] to other added projects that are
[4:05:16] new this year for us we have our
[4:05:19] red willow farm solar project
[4:05:21] we've added that to our ICIP
[4:05:23] listing as you all are aware
[4:05:26] I I have a late mom that was
[4:05:28] our red willow farm
[4:05:30] president for for many many
[4:05:32] years and because of that we've
[4:05:35] we've continued to her success
[4:05:36] with that and we've continued
[4:05:38] the the dreams and and work that
[4:05:38] she wanted so we've added
[4:05:42] that to our our capital outlay
[4:05:44] priority list for re willow
[4:05:45] as a matter of fact that's where
[4:05:46] I was just coming from this
[4:05:49] morning we we got a lot of water
[4:05:51] at our farm and we cannot get
[4:05:53] into our farm because of because
[4:05:54] of the floods and the and the
[4:05:56] muddy roads and the access to
[4:05:57] our farm but we were able to get
[4:05:59] in because the past few days we
[4:06:01] had some a little bit warmer
[4:06:03] weather so we could get into the
[4:06:07] the the farm today again
[4:06:08] ourabul outlay projects or tip
[4:06:09] projects that we've appli
[4:06:12] ed for I just wanted to mention
[4:06:15] that we also got money for our
[4:06:17] our first responder safety
[4:06:19] complex of4 million dollars from
[4:06:22] Tiff that was also added to that
[4:06:24] so so that was a success there.
[4:06:27] I wanted to congratulate and
[4:06:29] commend the legislators and
[4:06:30] all of you that are involved in
[4:06:33] that success and he haii we
[4:06:34] appreciate that we want to
[4:06:37] continue with lobbying and
[4:06:38] advocating with you all to help
[4:06:38] us with that so we can continue
[4:06:39] building
[4:06:42] this very important safety
[4:06:44] complex it's very much needed
[4:06:47] for our chapter. Highway491 is a
[4:06:49] very dangerous highway. it's a
[4:06:51] very busy highway and we are
[4:06:54] serving also district14 chapters
[4:06:56] which is5 chapters in in the
[4:06:58] local area so that's very
[4:07:01] important I hope and I I I
[4:07:03] pray that we will be
[4:07:05] successful again in applying for
[4:07:07] more funding for for our
[4:07:08] safety complex building we
[4:07:09] will be
[4:07:12] applying again this year or
[4:07:13] actually next year for for that
[4:07:15] funding area so we appreciate
[4:07:17] that so much for that so also
[4:07:19] want to congratulate another
[4:07:21] project on we were talking about
[4:07:23] it earlier theelville Gallup
[4:07:25] water supply the the the project
[4:07:27] there we're we're working
[4:07:30] with a shortfall dollars of3.5
[4:07:32] million dollars with Mexican
[4:07:34] spprings chapter we were
[4:07:36] successful with they were
[4:07:37] successful actually cause
[4:07:38] Mexican sppring applied for tI
[4:07:39] money and they were
[4:07:42] successful in landing4 million
[4:07:44] dollars of the3.5 that was
[4:07:46] shortfall so they were we were
[4:07:48] awarded as a as a combined
[4:07:50] project to get this project done
[4:07:53] so it's it's ongoing now we're
[4:07:55] blessed that we had that money
[4:07:57] approved for us now it's it's
[4:07:59] up to the contractors to move
[4:08:01] those dollars forward so we can
[4:08:02] get that done that's a part of
[4:08:06] the whole project
[4:08:07] funding that that that this is
[4:08:08] needed so we can serve our to
[4:08:09] hachi Mexican spprings
[4:08:12] area and that's going to happen
[4:08:13] that is going to happen and
[4:08:14] there's the plan and design is
[4:08:16] already complete it's done and
[4:08:18] we're ready to go this money
[4:08:19] that we got is for construction
[4:08:21] so we'd be moving on that as
[4:08:23] soon as possible. Saer Miller is
[4:08:25] the contractor subcontractor
[4:08:26] that we're working with
[4:08:27] Navoation so they're helping us
[4:08:29] with that and working along with
[4:08:32] that project for us so we're
[4:08:34] we're ongoing with that is is as
[4:08:36] as we move forward for serving
[4:08:38] our communitiesal deen is also
[4:08:38] on that listing for for funding
[4:08:39] as well
[4:08:43] and that lateral project as well
[4:08:44] as other other communities that
[4:08:46] are east of Gallup in that
[4:08:48] eastern agency area so we're
[4:08:50] working diligently with everyone
[4:08:52] out there so you know we've been
[4:08:54] successful so far with
[4:08:56] funding this project for our
[4:08:57] community so thank you very much
[4:08:59] to legislators for all of that
[4:09:01] and what you do and I just kind
[4:09:02] of put together some notes that
[4:09:05] I have I'd like to ask the
[4:09:06] legislators if you could help us
[4:09:08] possibly with the warehouse
[4:09:08] funding for our chapter we're
[4:09:09] 85,000
[4:09:12] 0 shortfall highway light we
[4:09:14] have3.5 million dollars that
[4:09:15] we're working with now theation
[4:09:17] Department of Transportation so
[4:09:19] we have some matching funding
[4:09:22] monies there so we probably will
[4:09:23] be able to have at least a
[4:09:24] million dollars because the
[4:09:26] navigation department of
[4:09:28] transportation has awarded
[4:09:31] through the naviation council
[4:09:33] monies for each of the agencies
[4:09:35] and legnaval Nation co agency
[4:09:38] areas districts for Monday and
[4:09:38] there so we'll we'll be glad to
[4:09:39] have that
[4:09:42] as a part of our contribution
[4:09:44] towards that and again this is
[4:09:44] something that we're doing and
[4:09:47] I'm just kind of going on as
[4:09:49] best as I can and do do what I
[4:09:50] need to do with what we were
[4:09:50] doing inuahachie
[4:09:53] I want to also thank theal
[4:09:55] McKinney County schools for the
[4:09:57] new high school the new high
[4:09:58] school that we now have so as
[4:10:00] you can see we're moving forward
[4:10:01] with a lot of projects that are
[4:10:03] going on in Tohatchie and we
[4:10:05] want to thank them for all
[4:10:06] the work they've done over the
[4:10:08] many many years we just had our
[4:10:10] groundbreaking in schools in
[4:10:11] session now all the kids are
[4:10:13] enjoying their new school now
[4:10:15] and of course they cannot wait
[4:10:16] for basketball season. we have a
[4:10:19] new basketball gymnasium that
[4:10:20] we're gonna be occupying and
[4:10:20] we're gonna be cheering on
[4:10:23] you know our opponents and
[4:10:24] everyone else there when they
[4:10:26] come to Johatchi, home of the
[4:10:28] cougars and we're gonna be
[4:10:29] we're gonna be yelling out we
[4:10:31] got spirit how about you? you
[4:10:33] know that's gonna happen right
[4:10:36] on so again we appreciate that
[4:10:38] other things that are going
[4:10:40] on that's sad to say again
[4:10:42] ourtahaji seniorenter has been
[4:10:44] closed for the last couple of
[4:10:46] weeks or so3 weeks because of
[4:10:48] our hy their hibc system their
[4:10:50] highback system has is not
[4:10:50] functioning and it's not just to
[4:10:53] haji it's a majority of naval
[4:10:55] nation where we're having that
[4:10:56] issue the expending the
[4:10:58] expanding the expenditure
[4:10:59] process of getting these money
[4:11:01] spent is a problem with our
[4:11:03] navajo nation and that's been a
[4:11:05] long long ongoing process so the
[4:11:07] senior senator is dealing with
[4:11:08] that we as officials are
[4:11:10] supporting them they under they
[4:11:12] are under doltech with Navo
[4:11:14] Nation so we are supporting
[4:11:16] their effort to get this done. I
[4:11:17] just found out a week ago that
[4:11:19] is the high ec system works at
[4:11:20] the senior center it's just some
[4:11:21] d
[4:11:23] uck wood I need some upgrades
[4:11:25] that's why there's no there's no
[4:11:27] functioning air flow through the
[4:11:28] through the building itself so
[4:11:30] we're working again with
[4:11:31] something there so we need
[4:11:32] something to do with that
[4:11:34] system. these systems and these
[4:11:36] senior center centers have been
[4:11:38] outdated for so many years so
[4:11:40] if you have senior centers in on
[4:11:43] on in your area as legislators
[4:11:44] you need to look more closely at
[4:11:46] what's going on with their
[4:11:48] facility it's a bad situation
[4:11:49] because they're very full
[4:11:50] they're much outdated
[4:11:50] infrastructure
[4:11:53] so anyway that's something that
[4:11:55] we're dealing with now and
[4:11:56] and we're we're soon to have
[4:11:59] that open and guarantee that so
[4:12:01] the other the other commanding
[4:12:02] commanding information or
[4:12:03] comment I want to make is the
[4:12:07] MexicodlT thank you for your new
[4:12:08] paving that you're doing now
[4:12:09] through our community of
[4:12:11] Tehatchie M marker16 through
[4:12:14] mile marker 25 we lobbied for
[4:12:16] that advocated for that here
[4:12:19] about a month ago or so with DOT
[4:12:20] we asked Trujillo and we
[4:12:20] asked Lis
[4:12:23] a Vega why are you guys not
[4:12:25] still why you guys are notpa
[4:12:26] that north lane, the double
[4:12:28] lanes and a couple weeks three
[4:12:30] weeks later they got on it. so
[4:12:31] thank you for those guys there
[4:12:34] was money for it thanks to
[4:12:35] our other local leadership that
[4:12:37] followed us through that we
[4:12:39] did meet withrujillo in Santa Fe
[4:12:41] and on teleconference call and
[4:12:43] we we got a blessing after that
[4:12:44] and thank you for that we really
[4:12:47] need that highway repaved and
[4:12:48] it's happening now so that
[4:12:49] should be completed I think
[4:12:50] probably the end of this week or
[4:12:50] within the next several
[4:12:54] days. Again there's so much
[4:12:55] blessed thank you for that we
[4:12:58] have now again I hope the
[4:13:00] speeders don't speed too much
[4:13:01] more but we don't we don't want
[4:13:02] that you know we'd like to
[4:13:05] control that so that may be
[4:13:06] another issue. Again there's
[4:13:07] another part that I want to
[4:13:09] mention that wement as a chapter
[4:13:12] advocating with other leadership
[4:13:13] before was the Edward O Plumber
[4:13:18] interchange 264 and highway491.
[4:13:20] We need those lights back on. We
[4:13:20] need those lights back on. We
[4:13:24] ' ve complained about that. why
[4:13:25] they have not get to that we've
[4:13:26] talked to the county manager
[4:13:28] about this they've been
[4:13:29] pointing fingers at each other
[4:13:32] in the Mexico DlT counties
[4:13:35] responsible and so forth so
[4:13:37] that's a very big danger zone
[4:13:39] guarantee you that because I go
[4:13:40] through that day and night and
[4:13:42] it's a problem so we need to get
[4:13:45] that fixed leadership so
[4:13:47] with that I have don't I
[4:13:49] don't have any other much more
[4:13:50] else to say but last but not
[4:13:50] least
[4:13:54] our school beacon flashing
[4:13:56] lights in Tohachi at our main
[4:13:58] school exit to our high school
[4:14:00] in our elementary school we need
[4:14:02] those bea and flash of lights
[4:14:04] install we've complained to the
[4:14:06] county for the past year or so
[4:14:08] it has not been done. Anthony
[4:14:11] demis, if you're listening, I
[4:14:14] hope you can hear us so we we
[4:14:16] need your help. The school is
[4:14:18] not responsible for it. they
[4:14:20] pointed to the county they
[4:14:20] pointed to MexicodlT
[4:14:23] everyone just does not want
[4:14:25] to put their hand on it even
[4:14:27] nowvonation DlT but leadership I
[4:14:29] hope we can get some word from
[4:14:30] you to get some somebody going
[4:14:32] we need that done it's very
[4:14:34] important we need that done a
[4:14:36] lot of semi trucks go through
[4:14:38] our areas daily it's a very
[4:14:41] danger zone. we need your help
[4:14:42] we need your help with that. So
[4:14:44] leadership, thank you very much
[4:14:46] for your time and again there's
[4:14:48] other projects that are ongoing
[4:14:50] now with us in our community
[4:14:50] rule dressing has been
[4:14:53] completed that's been ongoing
[4:14:55] for many years we have our rule
[4:14:57] of addressing project done thank
[4:14:59] you to ARPA funds from the
[4:15:00] federal government funds that we
[4:15:01] got we still need to finish that
[4:15:03] it's been done we just need
[4:15:05] volunteers I have how many of
[4:15:08] you here12,20,1f of you we need
[4:15:10] help installing our signs and
[4:15:12] our street signs they're done
[4:15:13] they're ready to go we just
[4:15:14] need to we just needed to get
[4:15:16] some cooler weather and that's
[4:15:17] happened but we're getting rain
[4:15:19] so we can't get out there to do
[4:15:20] that right now but we will move
[4:15:21] forward on that so
[4:15:24] thank you very much and I
[4:15:25] appreciate your time. thank you
[4:15:27] madam chairir committee thank
[4:15:30] you for coming to what is it
[4:15:32] gallup is did I hear Indian
[4:15:33] capital of the world some time
[4:15:34] ago
[4:15:36] I don't know how true that is
[4:15:38] but I just want to say tohachi
[4:15:40] is where I'm from welcome to
[4:15:41] Tahachi home of the cougars
[4:15:42] thank you very much
[4:15:42] appreciateciate it
[4:15:48] ok we will move to item number4
[4:15:49] with committee members
[4:15:56] And I did see chance came in
[4:15:56] hello come on that
[4:16:00] and you have someone with you or
[4:16:00] is it just you?
[4:16:03] they can join you just as long
[4:16:05] as they introduce themselves.
[4:16:07] Oh neararley
[4:16:10] excellent we feel I wonder if
[4:16:11] he's nervous sit up
[4:16:18] So is he overseeing you are you
[4:16:22] overseeing him? I'm just kidding
[4:16:25] do we have an extra
[4:16:32] don't have don't have anything
[4:16:37] don't have any anything I'll
[4:16:38] check my email but I didn't this
[4:16:38] morning
[4:16:53] we were at a different location
[4:16:54] and this was one of our
[4:16:58] I think they're gonna so we'll
[4:17:00] take a five minute break here
[4:17:01] before we convene no it's ok
[4:17:04] if it helps you move through the
[4:17:05] rep representation that'll help
[4:17:06] us
[4:17:09] so we don't have so many
[4:17:10] questions if we can read
[4:17:20] or if he can just get a laptop
[4:17:21] to him
[4:17:23] Nnicole if he can just get a
[4:17:25] laptop oh he has his laptop you
[4:17:26] can't read off your
[4:17:27] yeah
[4:17:31] ok give them the internet it's
[4:17:33] internet password
[4:24:24] members that you may begin
[4:24:33] Testing madam chair and members
[4:24:34] of the committee we just thank
[4:24:36] you for inviting us up here to
[4:24:39] talk with you guys about modular
[4:24:41] housing. I'm Chance Mitchell. my
[4:24:43] dad here is Jim Mitchell and
[4:24:44] over the last three or four
[4:24:48] years we've spent our lives
[4:24:51] sort of renovating a420,000
[4:24:53] square foot bus plant that we've
[4:24:55] now converted into a modular
[4:24:57] homeme factory providing
[4:24:58] homes for areas all across
[4:24:58] the state and
[4:25:02] so my my goal the reason that we
[4:25:06] came up here is I I would just
[4:25:08] like to communicate what a good
[4:25:09] and what a permanent solution
[4:25:12] that modular housing can be for
[4:25:13] rural and tribal communities.
[4:25:19] So little presentation overview
[4:25:21] so originally we'd have a set
[4:25:23] video just a video of us
[4:25:24] actually setting the homes but
[4:25:26] I think I'm having some
[4:25:28] technical difficulties so we'll
[4:25:30] we'll have to do without that
[4:25:32] but I'm going to talk about
[4:25:35] modular housing from a general
[4:25:37] point of view. First, what are
[4:25:39] the benefits? what is it and
[4:25:40] after that I'm going to talk
[4:25:42] about fortified our company and
[4:25:44] sort of how we stand out how we
[4:25:45] can just help
[4:25:47] communities around New Mexico.
[4:25:50] that video
[4:25:54] I did include this picture
[4:25:56] though so this is a project
[4:25:56] that we have
[4:26:01] just completed in Redriver
[4:26:03] this summer. it from the time we
[4:26:04] went under contract with the
[4:26:06] town of Red River to the time we
[4:26:07] actually got the homes on the
[4:26:10] ground was 2 months so and I
[4:26:11] think that's pretty unheard of
[4:26:13] when you're working with
[4:26:14] local governments and whatnot
[4:26:16] but I think it is a testament
[4:26:20] to the the speed of our building
[4:26:23] processes so yes the the
[4:26:24] community up there is using
[4:26:26] these town homemes for workforce
[4:26:26] housing
[4:26:29] why modular
[4:26:31] so
[4:26:33] let's just talk about the
[4:26:36] quality of modular first so we
[4:26:38] build everything in an enclosed
[4:26:41] environment that in itself we
[4:26:42] have a roof over our heads while
[4:26:44] while we build our homes so we
[4:26:46] are not dealing with weather
[4:26:48] delays or weather damage to our
[4:26:51] materials we're not dealing with
[4:26:54] any theft or any of the
[4:26:56] issues that would come with just
[4:26:58] the elements. I mean if you
[4:26:59] think that you can get your cut
[4:27:00] your angle as pre
[4:27:02] ci se as I can when I'm cutting
[4:27:04] in a building and you're out
[4:27:05] there in the rain and the mud
[4:27:06] and the wind. I'll take you up
[4:27:08] on that challenge all day long.
[4:27:11] streamlined processes we we
[4:27:12] build everything ination we have
[4:27:14] our materials right there we're
[4:27:15] not running to Home Depot 20
[4:27:18] times a day like a normal site
[4:27:18] builder would
[4:27:22] and we're able to build a lot
[4:27:23] faster because of our
[4:27:25] streamlined processes and a lot
[4:27:28] better our people do the same
[4:27:29] thing every day in the same
[4:27:31] place. The the quality becomes
[4:27:32] very good
[4:27:36] engineered for durability. so
[4:27:37] one of the differences between
[4:27:40] modular and like a manufactured
[4:27:43] or a mobile home is we build to
[4:27:45] the IRc the International
[4:27:47] residential code it's the same
[4:27:48] code that a regular site builder
[4:27:49] would build to
[4:27:53] whereas a mobile manufactured
[4:27:55] home they build to theU code
[4:27:58] which think section 8 housing
[4:28:01] it's a code created for just
[4:28:03] purely affordable you know this
[4:28:05] is these are homes that have a
[4:28:06] shelf life they deteriorate
[4:28:08] eventually you're gonna have to
[4:28:09] replace it. there's a place for
[4:28:10] it in the market but it's not a
[4:28:11] permanent solution
[4:28:15] these are engineered at
[4:28:16] the same code that a site
[4:28:18] builder would use except we
[4:28:20] actually overengineer them
[4:28:20] because we do put them on a
[4:28:22] truck, lift them up with a crane
[4:28:24] and so they they are very very
[4:28:24] sturdy homes
[4:28:29] faster build timeline I sort
[4:28:30] of talked about that with the
[4:28:34] streamlined processes I guess
[4:28:34] but
[4:28:39] right now in our factory we
[4:28:41] complete a home in 22 business
[4:28:44] days so very quick build
[4:28:46] timeline in the factory during
[4:28:47] those 22 business days we're out
[4:28:48] there on site doing the
[4:28:51] foundation and so the
[4:28:52] foundation's ready when the home
[4:28:54] comes out. you got about four
[4:28:55] weeks of stitch up after the
[4:28:57] home actually comes out gets set
[4:28:59] on the foundation and so you're
[4:29:01] looking at a two month to three
[4:29:03] months at the most build
[4:29:04] timeline when you
[4:29:06] go with one of
[4:29:09] a standard typical home that we
[4:29:11] built and you know compared to a
[4:29:13] site built you're you're looking
[4:29:15] at six months at the minimum,
[4:29:16] especially in one of these rural
[4:29:17] communities. I mean you're
[4:29:18] probably looking at closer to a
[4:29:19] year or more than a year
[4:29:22] so
[4:29:26] we we save a lot of time and we
[4:29:28] also save people a lot of money
[4:29:29] so
[4:29:32] affordability I just did this
[4:29:35] little mockup estimate if we
[4:29:36] were just going to go
[4:29:39] to Ta and build a home. really
[4:29:40] we could do this in any rural
[4:29:42] community. I chose Taos because
[4:29:43] it's people can't build there
[4:29:45] for less than400 a foot right
[4:29:47] now it's the housing market has
[4:29:50] just gotten crazy. minus the
[4:29:52] land this would be our cost if
[4:29:54] we were to go up there and build
[4:29:56] a home between the foundation
[4:29:57] of everything to get the home
[4:29:59] actually turnkey we're looking
[4:30:02] at160 bucks a foot to build it
[4:30:04] whereas yeah intas site builders
[4:30:05] can't build a home for less
[4:30:06] than400 buck
[4:30:08] a foot frankly so
[4:30:11] when I say this is a a good
[4:30:12] solution for our rural
[4:30:13] communities. I I really do mean
[4:30:14] it.
[4:30:18] greener
[4:30:22] I I know that we are facing so
[4:30:27] many issues and topics around
[4:30:29] just the issue of waste so
[4:30:30] modular with our streamlined
[4:30:32] processes with our lack of
[4:30:35] weather damage theft, you name
[4:30:39] it. we use about30% of the waste
[4:30:40] that a site builder would use
[4:30:41] for building a home so think
[4:30:44] we would use like a55 gallon
[4:30:48] dumpster loaded up per home
[4:30:49] whereas a site builder would
[4:30:51] probably use two semi trucks
[4:30:55] of waste so it's a very green
[4:31:02] y fortify it so now we'll talk
[4:31:03] about fortified structures our
[4:31:04] actual company what sets us
[4:31:05] apart and how we can help
[4:31:09] so we are very vertical
[4:31:12] vertically integrated we
[4:31:13] originally started as a civil
[4:31:15] construction company. my
[4:31:18] parents started JNhervices about
[4:31:21] 30 years ago and have run it in
[4:31:22] southeast New Mexico building
[4:31:26] bridges highways since then
[4:31:28] have acquired an asphalt plant a
[4:31:30] concrete plant and so when
[4:31:32] somebody hires us we don't just
[4:31:34] build the houses we actually do
[4:31:35] the civil engineering we do the
[4:31:36] dirt work and everything
[4:31:38] because we see a lot of these
[4:31:40] municipalities when they get
[4:31:42] funding from the state the first
[4:31:43] place they'll go is they'll hire
[4:31:45] a super expensive engineer spent
[4:31:46] half the project money on an
[4:31:47] engineer that engineers the
[4:31:49] project to be way more expensive
[4:31:51] than anything they can afford
[4:31:52] and then the project doesn't get
[4:31:54] done and so when you're able to
[4:31:57] keep this whole project in house
[4:31:59] you know we're able to
[4:32:01] understand the customers values
[4:32:03] the end goals and from start to
[4:32:05] finish we're able to stay on the
[4:32:06] same page with everybody
[4:32:09] because we're we handle the
[4:32:12] whole process so yeah we from
[4:32:14] the civil engineering to the
[4:32:17] actual homes being turnkey
[4:32:18] ready. we handle that
[4:32:21] we don't
[4:32:23] let me just say we don't have to
[4:32:26] handle that if a municipality or
[4:32:28] somebody was to say hey we have
[4:32:30] these lots already developed you
[4:32:30] know that's not something that
[4:32:33] we have to do but we we have
[4:32:34] capacity to take care of the
[4:32:34] whole thing
[4:32:40] unique business structure so
[4:32:42] because all the factory because
[4:32:43] the factory does all the heavy
[4:32:44] lifting by building the homes in
[4:32:45] the
[4:32:50] plant we are able to qualify a
[4:32:52] lot of contractors in local
[4:32:54] areas that we're building that
[4:32:57] maybe wouldn't be able to handle
[4:32:59] all the capacity if they were
[4:33:01] just to build100% of the homes.
[4:33:04] so when we go to a different
[4:33:06] community our goal is to utilize
[4:33:06] the local
[4:33:10] workforce boost the economy,
[4:33:12] buy the new homes and also buy
[4:33:16] the labor because yeah the the
[4:33:18] amount of work that gets done on
[4:33:19] site is relatively easy.
[4:33:20] so
[4:33:24] there you go and yeah we're
[4:33:24] we're
[4:33:28] constantly scaling across the
[4:33:30] southwest by we have
[4:33:33] customers who are buying
[4:33:36] licenses to their areas I
[4:33:37] guess and they're just buying
[4:33:38] our home straight out of the
[4:33:42] factory and putting their homes
[4:33:42] in their local areas and
[4:33:45] that's sort of how we've been
[4:33:47] scaling and serving communities
[4:33:48] far fromRoswell.
[4:33:49] so
[4:33:54] here's a bit of our current
[4:33:56] speed incompa capacity right now
[4:33:59] so our current production is two
[4:34:00] modules a day
[4:34:02] we we work in terms of modules
[4:34:04] because a home can be one
[4:34:05] module, a home could be10
[4:34:06] modules it really just depends
[4:34:08] on the home. So think the
[4:34:10] average home is about 2 modules
[4:34:12] so we're building a house a day
[4:34:14] right now out of the factory.
[4:34:16] Our goal by the end of 227 is to
[4:34:19] double that and then once we
[4:34:20] double that we'll open up our
[4:34:22] second production line through
[4:34:23] the plant because really only
[4:34:26] using30 or40% of it right now
[4:34:27] the actual square footage in our
[4:34:28] factory
[4:34:33] so that that's a little bit
[4:34:34] about us. I look forward to any
[4:34:37] questions that you guys have
[4:34:39] that's our director of sales
[4:34:41] contact info but I also have
[4:34:42] business cards that I'd love to
[4:34:42] hand out with with mine as well
[4:34:48] committee memberspresentative
[4:34:48] Abela
[4:34:51] thank you chair. thank you Mr.
[4:34:52] Mitchell for your
[4:34:55] presentation and for also
[4:34:56] bringing your father a quick
[4:34:57] question
[4:35:01] quick question well multiple
[4:35:02] questions the Red river
[4:35:03] structure that you showed up
[4:35:05] here can you give me a little
[4:35:06] bit of the details about what it
[4:35:07] was and how much that costs
[4:35:12] madam Chairpresentative, thank
[4:35:13] you for asking that question.
[4:35:14] Yes so the
[4:35:18] town of Red River approached us
[4:35:20] they needed workforce housing
[4:35:20] they have
[4:35:22] the same issue that a lot of
[4:35:25] these rural, especially these
[4:35:26] mountain towns have where the
[4:35:27] real estate has become so
[4:35:28] expensive that the people who
[4:35:29] actually run the town can't live
[4:35:30] there.
[4:35:31] so
[4:35:32] we came in
[4:35:36] we completed the homes and set
[4:35:37] the homes within two months and
[4:35:41] then we we actually did the site
[4:35:42] work after that
[4:35:43] now
[4:35:48] I I believe the cost was around
[4:35:50] 250 b a square foot. that's
[4:35:52] probably not the exact number
[4:35:54] but that's that's where we were
[4:35:58] to to build that turnkey whereas
[4:36:01] yeah do you have anything else
[4:36:03] to say? Yeah I could speak to
[4:36:04] that a little bit so each one of
[4:36:07] those units is1280 square feet
[4:36:08] there
[4:36:11] they were right around 250 a
[4:36:12] foot with the
[4:36:15] the government procurement side
[4:36:17] because everything in the
[4:36:19] factory we were able to not pay
[4:36:20] the wage rate decision but
[4:36:22] everything on site had to be bid
[4:36:25] as wage rate decision. we
[4:36:26] helped them with all the
[4:36:29] engineering and it also being
[4:36:32] in Red River had to be zonefi
[4:36:34] insulated and approved for that
[4:36:36] so that added to the cost to
[4:36:38] some degree their quote for this
[4:36:40] project was near50000 of the
[4:36:44] so came in at half that yeah we
[4:36:45] were just right at half of
[4:36:47] what they were thinking it was
[4:36:48] going to cost them
[4:36:51] you chair thank you Mr.
[4:36:53] Mitchell. So just to clarify the
[4:36:55] original estimate was500,000
[4:36:56] because that was going to
[4:36:58] include engineering and other
[4:37:00] prep work but at the end of the
[4:37:02] project it was
[4:37:06] $250 per square foot. Right
[4:37:08] correct right well no they they
[4:37:10] estimate to build it on site
[4:37:13] with a local contractor was500 a
[4:37:14] foot by using us they saved
[4:37:16] half. Thank you I misunderstood
[4:37:18] that thank you madam Chair Mr.
[4:37:18] Mitchell. OK
[4:37:21] I think that's a great idea
[4:37:23] for a lot of our rural schools
[4:37:25] that are grappling with how
[4:37:26] we're going to provide teacher
[4:37:29] housing so this is interesting
[4:37:31] so can you tell me what was
[4:37:32] the total cost then?
[4:37:36] they had some additional costs
[4:37:38] there was some facilities here
[4:37:40] that they dem demoed to make
[4:37:43] room for this. I believe our
[4:37:45] contract was right around 2
[4:37:46] million and it
[4:37:50] I didn't mention but all all
[4:37:52] those units were a three bedroom
[4:37:52] two bath
[4:37:52] units
[4:38:00] Thank you chair and Mr Mitchell
[4:38:01] my next question is
[4:38:06] you may have answered this a
[4:38:07] while ago you had talked about
[4:38:09] how you use the local workforce
[4:38:13] but you build in your facility
[4:38:15] so is a a a crew taken out? Is
[4:38:17] is that the work what what's the
[4:38:19] local workforce helplp me
[4:38:20] understand that madam Chair
[4:38:22] andpresentative thank you for
[4:38:23] that question. I'd love to
[4:38:26] clarify it so the actual home
[4:38:28] like you you see these we can
[4:38:30] just look at this for example so
[4:38:32] the home when you walk in
[4:38:33] there the cabinet
[4:38:36] s the flooring, the countertops,
[4:38:38] the bathrooms that was all done
[4:38:40] in the factory. However, there
[4:38:41] are certain things that need to
[4:38:43] take place on site once we
[4:38:44] actually set the home on the
[4:38:45] foundation. Well, one the
[4:38:47] foundation needs to be poured on
[4:38:50] site. that metal roof had to be
[4:38:51] done on site. there's a little
[4:38:54] bit of the sighting that has to
[4:38:56] marry up a little bit of
[4:38:58] interior work plumbing
[4:38:59] connections, electrical
[4:39:02] connections and that has to be
[4:39:02] done on site and so we can use
[4:39:05] our local
[4:39:07] trade
[4:39:10] force that we use inRoswell
[4:39:10] arttesia but
[4:39:14] we prefer and we know that the
[4:39:15] communities prefer that we use
[4:39:16] their local
[4:39:18] workforce because it's
[4:39:20] relatively easy stuff it it's
[4:39:24] not anything that a regular
[4:39:24] contractor can't handle
[4:39:29] you for that answer chair and
[4:39:30] Mr Mitchell, my last question is
[4:39:32] what are the warranties on these
[4:39:33] types of structures
[4:39:37] madam chair andre representative
[4:39:40] we offer a one year bumper to
[4:39:43] bumper warranty on all our new
[4:39:45] homes and then they also come
[4:39:46] with a twoyear mechanical
[4:39:50] plumbing warranty so think the
[4:39:52] Ac goes out within the first two
[4:39:54] years we'll we'll go fix that
[4:39:55] and then they have a 10 year
[4:39:56] structural warranty. anything
[4:39:58] happens with the foundation
[4:40:00] whatnot in the 1st 10 years
[4:40:00] we'll go and fix that
[4:40:05] you have one more question thank
[4:40:06] you have you
[4:40:10] chaired Mr Mitchell have you
[4:40:11] contracted or worked with any
[4:40:13] public schools tribally
[4:40:14] controlled schools, private
[4:40:16] schools to provide teacher
[4:40:18] housing or tribally
[4:40:20] controlled health centers in in
[4:40:23] health service any medical type
[4:40:24] programs that need employee
[4:40:25] housing? have you worked with
[4:40:26] them and can you tell us about
[4:40:26] those
[4:40:30] madam chair andres
[4:40:30] representative, my dad can
[4:40:34] probably speak a little more to
[4:40:37] this we haven't had any teacher
[4:40:40] housing projects that we've
[4:40:41] completed yet we're in the works
[4:40:44] on a couple but I know that
[4:40:46] JNh services the civil side has
[4:40:49] done a lot and we are CES
[4:40:53] approved so we we can do that
[4:40:54] the teacher housing work
[4:40:57] directly correct yeah and and
[4:40:58] for the so we've been in a
[4:41:00] civil industry for 30 years and
[4:41:02] we've worked with the musscuaro
[4:41:04] tribe and one of their housing
[4:41:07] subdivisions that we built we
[4:41:08] did all the infrastructure at
[4:41:10] different vertical contractor
[4:41:12] built the structures for that
[4:41:13] one
[4:41:15] and we're currently working with
[4:41:16] muscular's putting in water
[4:41:19] system we've done a lot of work
[4:41:21] here over the years for the city
[4:41:22] of Gallup
[4:41:25] in 30 years we've done a lot of
[4:41:27] work so we we're very familiar
[4:41:30] with the the processes and and
[4:41:32] what needs to take place on the
[4:41:32] governmental side of it
[4:41:35] thank you madam chair thank you
[4:41:37] Mr Mitchell. I'm glad to hear
[4:41:39] that and I'm also glad I didn't
[4:41:41] hear of any restrictions or any
[4:41:43] concerns that you had that the
[4:41:44] federal government doesn't allow
[4:41:46] that type of contracting with
[4:41:48] modular buildings sounds like
[4:41:50] they do so yes ma'am so just
[4:41:52] because it's modular it it it
[4:41:54] appreciates everything about it
[4:41:55] as as if it's on site belt.
[4:42:00] and and it's actually better
[4:42:00] quality.
[4:42:01] thank you madam chair
[4:42:06] thank you thank youpresentative
[4:42:06] Representative royalabballero
[4:42:10] thank you madam chair and thank
[4:42:11] you it's good to see you again
[4:42:13] you would have been proud very
[4:42:15] proud of your son100 time full
[4:42:17] because he presented before the
[4:42:18] economic and rural
[4:42:21] development when we met in
[4:42:23] uhRoswell and part of our
[4:42:24] conversation madam chairir was
[4:42:27] we encouraged him to reach out
[4:42:29] to various interim committees
[4:42:30] around the state because we were
[4:42:33] still meeting and we wanted
[4:42:35] to help him
[4:42:37] promote
[4:42:41] the housing this modular
[4:42:42] housing
[4:42:45] and because of the very
[4:42:46] questions you were asking
[4:42:51] Teacher housing you know started
[4:42:52] working in in Cibala
[4:42:55] McKinley County's back in 2001
[4:42:57] and back then
[4:42:58] they were telling us
[4:43:02] about the need for teacher
[4:43:05] housing and then the city of
[4:43:06] Grantz was highly
[4:43:08] had
[4:43:10] high degree of dilapidated
[4:43:10] housing
[4:43:14] and housing had to be those
[4:43:16] homes had to be demolished they
[4:43:18] were ruled unsafe for a large to
[4:43:20] a large extent because they were
[4:43:21] so old they were built in the
[4:43:24] early mining industry so I
[4:43:27] say all that to say that again I
[4:43:29] I was exposed to modular housing
[4:43:31] when I was doing housing
[4:43:32] development down south
[4:43:35] and and thank you for asking
[4:43:37] the question about the federal
[4:43:39] government because it in fact
[4:43:41] was one of the very first
[4:43:43] grants I can't remember I think
[4:43:47] it was carlos might remember but
[4:43:48] we received
[4:43:52] Federal funding on from three
[4:43:54] different sources because at
[4:43:56] that time we were breaking
[4:43:58] ground it was a trailblazing
[4:44:01] idea of modular homes and it
[4:44:02] worked so well that the veterans
[4:44:04] administration bought into it
[4:44:07] in certain areas and far west
[4:44:09] Texas that are very isolated but
[4:44:13] yet veterans were were
[4:44:15] buying pieces of land once they
[4:44:17] had access to capital and so on
[4:44:19] so madam chair I wanted to
[4:44:24] just bring that because we
[4:44:27] encouraged exposure of
[4:44:29] this and the more you get
[4:44:31] exposed to us in our committees
[4:44:33] around the state I think the
[4:44:35] more the better understanding we
[4:44:36] get of how
[4:44:40] this could actually be a great
[4:44:41] resolution for our housing
[4:44:43] shortage but not only that the
[4:44:47] affordability factor we also
[4:44:48] madam chairir brought up the
[4:44:50] whole question of how are
[4:44:52] unfortunately our senior
[4:44:55] citizens are losing their homes
[4:44:57] because they're unable to
[4:44:58] keep up with the horrible
[4:45:00] costs associated they may have
[4:45:02] finished their mortgage but they
[4:45:03] have these high utility rates
[4:45:04] and all the other costs
[4:45:05] associated and their homes have
[4:45:06] now
[4:45:09] after th30,40,50 years become
[4:45:10] unaffordable and they
[4:45:15] especially those families that
[4:45:17] don't have dependences so
[4:45:20] this is a viable alternative
[4:45:23] affordable alternative in a
[4:45:24] number of ways and so one
[4:45:24] question
[4:45:28] were you able to get
[4:45:31] on the agenda with mortgage
[4:45:32] finance Author
[4:45:41] Madam Chair andre
[4:45:42] representative, thank you for
[4:45:44] that question. Yes ma'am we've
[4:45:46] actually presented at their
[4:45:47] board meeting
[4:45:51] before and I I've gotten to
[4:45:53] be a special guest once or twice
[4:45:55] so that's they've they've been
[4:45:58] very good to us and we're going
[4:45:59] to need all the legislative
[4:46:01] support we can get to move
[4:46:04] mortgage finance authority I
[4:46:05] think we all need to be the
[4:46:06] oversight for them because they
[4:46:08] have been presented many ideas
[4:46:10] and this is one of the most
[4:46:11] affordable ideas they've been
[4:46:13] presented and for some reason
[4:46:14] they have a new name what is it
[4:46:15] housing
[4:46:18] New Mexico or something like
[4:46:20] that they they just
[4:46:24] do not want to remove themselves
[4:46:24] from the conventional
[4:46:26] housing
[4:46:30] construction concepts right that
[4:46:34] self or380,000 dollars to start
[4:46:37] off with up and they call that
[4:46:39] affordable when in fact at
[4:46:41] one of their meetings madam
[4:46:43] chair a question was asked and
[4:46:46] said how much money would
[4:46:47] what is what would be the
[4:46:49] minimum hourly wage that a
[4:46:51] family would have to be made a
[4:46:53] head of household would have to
[4:46:55] make in order to be able to
[4:46:56] afford just walking into
[4:46:57] a380,000
[4:47:00] and it came out to44 almost45
[4:47:01] dollars an hour
[4:47:04] wage they would have to earn in
[4:47:07] order to be able to walk
[4:47:08] into380,00
[4:47:13] you know in Albuquerque so
[4:47:14] again this is
[4:47:19] a real alternate not alternative
[4:47:22] it's a real housing opportunity
[4:47:25] that's being presented to us at
[4:47:26] different committees and
[4:47:28] different areas of our state
[4:47:30] where we're all being faced with
[4:47:31] a housing crisis
[4:47:35] and we heard earlier fromallup
[4:47:37] about the homeless unsheltered
[4:47:38] crisis that we're facing
[4:47:40] when we have a viable
[4:47:43] alternative right here so I just
[4:47:44] wanted to say thank you to you
[4:47:46] for being diligent in pursuing
[4:47:49] these presentations and I
[4:47:51] would just say that you keep
[4:47:53] doing it be persistent and
[4:47:55] we'll keep promoting as much as
[4:47:59] we can the the this
[4:48:00] housing
[4:48:02] modular home
[4:48:05] concept although it's been
[4:48:09] around for a while but in in the
[4:48:10] other admirable thing is that
[4:48:12] you're present right here in our
[4:48:13] backyard in the state of New
[4:48:14] Mexico
[4:48:16] so I'm glad you did a little bit
[4:48:18] about your company because
[4:48:20] you're located right here
[4:48:21] inRoswell, New Mexico.
[4:48:23] so and you have the capacity to
[4:48:24] be
[4:48:29] communities as well and I
[4:48:31] think the more volume it's the
[4:48:33] classic capitalist concept the
[4:48:36] more volume the cost can go down
[4:48:38] so the more volume we have in
[4:48:39] this type of housing hopefully
[4:48:40] by the time you get toallup, New
[4:48:41] Mexico
[4:48:44] the the price per square foot
[4:48:46] might go down from160 to
[4:48:48] maybe140,120 I don't know
[4:48:50] wishful thinking but anyway
[4:48:51] thank you madam chair and and
[4:48:52] thank you
[4:48:58] and and and again you give us
[4:49:00] hope because you're a young man
[4:49:02] following in a family business
[4:49:03] but you're doing an excellent
[4:49:04] job. Thank you.
[4:49:06] thank youpresentative
[4:49:08] Representative Vice chairir
[4:49:09] Johnson. thank you madam chairir
[4:49:14] I just want to say now you tell
[4:49:15] me
[4:49:17] because I'm one of those people
[4:49:18] who drives back
[4:49:27] So I think I'm excited to
[4:49:30] continue to follow and support
[4:49:33] this program. I know that our
[4:49:34] health
[4:49:39] our senior citizens
[4:49:48] see our students commute
[4:49:51] hundreds of miles just to attend
[4:49:53] class who who need to be in
[4:50:00] a class work so and I want to
[4:50:02] thankpresentative Abeda for the
[4:50:06] questions she asked all the
[4:50:06] questions that we were curious
[4:50:07] about
[4:50:09] and so I think homes are
[4:50:16] so
[4:50:17] thank you
[4:50:23] you any other questions for
[4:50:24] committee members
[4:50:30] thank you thank you for coming
[4:50:32] all the way this way and even
[4:50:34] to my community members that are
[4:50:37] here this is one of the a little
[4:50:40] bit of a solution I think for
[4:50:41] many of the things we because
[4:50:42] even with our behavioral health
[4:50:44] entities that presented earlier
[4:50:47] after that 90 days is up when
[4:50:50] they are ready to get going it's
[4:50:51] permanent housing. how do we get
[4:50:52] them to that next step of
[4:50:53] something they can afford
[4:50:55] especially if they have those
[4:50:56] skills and meet the needs of the
[4:51:00] So I'm very grateful for you
[4:51:03] coming up and looking forward to
[4:51:05] seeing you and I I really pass
[4:51:06] your name the name of your
[4:51:08] company around to people when
[4:51:10] they talk about housing I'm like
[4:51:12] check this out but he does
[4:51:13] have a website online
[4:51:16] for you to look on with some of
[4:51:17] the information and the videos
[4:51:20] they do have something there
[4:51:21] but thank you for the committee
[4:51:24] members and thank you and I
[4:51:25] don't have any que I I think you
[4:51:27] answered a lot of my questions
[4:51:28] after we had that
[4:51:30] presentation so that was where I
[4:51:31] I I
[4:51:33] they were good answers
[4:51:36] Thank you guys
[4:51:43] ok we're on item number5 Senate
[4:51:45] bill3 with Mr. Collins and
[4:51:47] then we have one more after that
[4:51:48] with an update from the McKinley
[4:51:52] County DWRI court from our pres
[4:51:52] judgedyazzie
[4:52:47] OKen you've been before the
[4:52:48] committee before so I'm sure
[4:52:50] you're familiar and
[4:52:51] oh is he gonna join you
[4:52:53] ok that's fine
[4:52:56] he wants to join me
[4:52:58] you want to join me
[4:53:03] so members we are
[4:53:08] we are 6 minutes behind. I'm
[4:53:08] just curious.
[4:53:11] you may be gettingin.
[4:53:17] Well thank you
[4:53:22] can you hear me
[4:53:26] hello
[4:53:30] thank you madam chair vice chair
[4:53:33] and senators and representatives
[4:53:35] part of this committee it's
[4:53:38] really an honor to be here.
[4:53:40] I don't know about being short
[4:53:42] because as a part of why I'm
[4:53:44] here I want to give you a really
[4:53:46] my
[4:53:52] how I got here started 50 years
[4:53:52] ago on December
[4:53:56] thir1st around3 in the morning
[4:54:01] when my
[4:54:05] professional baseball career
[4:54:08] ended after I ran into a car on
[4:54:08] a snowmobile
[4:54:12] I'm from Oregon originally and
[4:54:15] I'd come home from a successful
[4:54:16] baseball season
[4:54:18] your first handout is a
[4:54:21] letter that I received from
[4:54:22] Tonyegegal
[4:54:24] I was hoping to
[4:54:28] move out of professional
[4:54:31] baseball here in the states. I'd
[4:54:33] play I'd turn down playing in
[4:54:36] Mexico in1976 to stay at home in
[4:54:37] oregon
[4:54:41] I played professionally for
[4:54:44] six seasons for regular seasons
[4:54:45] with the Milwaukeebrewers in
[4:54:47] their farm system. I got
[4:54:51] released in'751975 from the
[4:54:54] sacramento bees in the Pacific
[4:54:57] coast League I might be the
[4:55:00] only player that you know who
[4:55:01] actually pitched against the
[4:55:02] Albuquerque dukes
[4:55:05] Tommy Lasorda, Ronsey
[4:55:11] that's my relief pitcher back
[4:55:12] here in the back
[4:55:17] Larry Foster he was honored to
[4:55:18] be a part of Native Americanhall
[4:55:21] of fame baseball playing hall of
[4:55:22] fame but
[4:55:28] really I'm here to really try to
[4:55:29] give you information and what
[4:55:31] I've learned over the last50
[4:55:34] years of living with a brain
[4:55:36] injury because I really hope
[4:55:37] that this information I know
[4:55:40] I've talked to uhpresentative
[4:55:42] Johnson since she's had her
[4:55:45] brain injury and I'll let her
[4:55:46] talk to
[4:55:48] some of that after I talk here
[4:55:51] about her care and and really I
[4:55:53] think it's gonna
[4:55:56] point out some of the reasons
[4:55:56] why I'm here
[4:55:59] because really
[4:56:03] it's really hard to understand
[4:56:05] we look fine
[4:56:08] but you don't understand the
[4:56:10] difficulties that we have in
[4:56:11] just daily living
[4:56:16] Once our brain is scrambled it
[4:56:19] really is hard to make sense of
[4:56:21] things and understand things. it
[4:56:24] was good that Bill Lee was here
[4:56:24] talking about epilepsy
[4:56:27] the number one cause of epilepsy
[4:56:28] is brain injuries.
[4:56:33] and so I really recommend and I
[4:56:34] support what he was saying and
[4:56:36] doing with the vagus nerve
[4:56:36] implant
[4:56:39] because that's one of the things
[4:56:40] I've learned over the years and
[4:56:42] I'll talk a little bit about
[4:56:43] this as I go along
[4:56:44] but when I
[4:56:47] woke up I'll tell you a little
[4:56:49] bit about my injury
[4:56:52] everything I don't know any of
[4:56:54] things I've got about a month
[4:56:58] missing. I remember going to
[4:57:00] the hot springs I'd come home
[4:57:02] for the holidays after its
[4:57:03] successful baseball season. I
[4:57:08] was10 and1 in1976 our team took
[4:57:09] the state championship instead
[4:57:11] of I turned down played in
[4:57:13] Mexico professionally but I
[4:57:14] stayed in Oregon to plan semiro
[4:57:16] team Bend Oregon
[4:57:20] I was10 and1. our team took
[4:57:21] the state championship. I
[4:57:24] pitched the semifinal game to
[4:57:25] get us into the playoffs and
[4:57:28] then I came in in relief to win
[4:57:28] the championship
[4:57:32] like I I was gonna use this
[4:57:32] letter
[4:57:37] to go out of the states because
[4:57:41] in1976 Major League Baseball
[4:57:44] was opening up and as well as
[4:57:48] Europee was expanding Italy that
[4:57:50] they were all kinds of places
[4:57:52] for me to play and I was gonna
[4:57:55] take my skills and my abilities
[4:57:57] outside of the states because I
[4:57:58] saw that's where my future was.
[4:58:04] unfortunately I never got to use
[4:58:04] this letter
[4:58:08] like I said they told me that
[4:58:11] I remember Christmas Eve I went
[4:58:13] up to the hot springs. I wanted
[4:58:15] to do two things when I got home
[4:58:16] for the ho well three things
[4:58:19] actually regroup and decide if I
[4:58:20] was where I was going to play
[4:58:21] that summer if I was going to
[4:58:22] play
[4:58:26] other was to go to the hot
[4:58:28] springs well actually you had to
[4:58:30] go to the hot springs and that's
[4:58:31] what I remember doing on
[4:58:33] Christmas Eve. The other was to
[4:58:34] go snowmobiling
[4:58:37] I don't remember that they tell
[4:58:38] me I was
[4:58:42] one of my we met a bunch of
[4:58:43] people three of us had been
[4:58:45] snowmobiling for a couple3 hours
[4:58:46] we met other people at this
[4:58:47] rendezvous place
[4:58:53] after the bars had closed so
[4:58:55] they all came up and I guess one
[4:58:57] of my friends had lost his keys
[4:59:00] to a snowbill, another hot wired
[4:59:01] it and they said let me take
[4:59:02] it for a test run
[4:59:05] they told me I went up about
[4:59:08] mile, came back all all out and
[4:59:10] was probably doing4050 miles an
[4:59:12] hour. the only person that saw
[4:59:15] saw what happened was standing
[4:59:17] in there was a line of pickups
[4:59:20] on one side there was a u and he
[4:59:23] was standing in between the the
[4:59:24] pickups and the and and the you
[4:59:27] and all I can think of is I must
[4:59:29] have saw him and tried to avoid
[4:59:31] hitting him and ran heads
[4:59:32] headfirst into a side of
[4:59:33] a parked car
[4:59:37] when I hit the car I broke my
[4:59:40] jaw below my chin rammed this
[4:59:43] jawbone into my ear canal on
[4:59:44] impact I separated my skull
[4:59:46] busted out some teeth, broke a
[4:59:51] rib and knocked me out for so
[4:59:53] the only thing that I then the
[4:59:56] next thing I remember was waking
[4:59:56] up at home
[4:59:59] in front of a mirror about 6
[5:00:01] inches in front of a mirror
[5:00:03] coming out at darkness through a
[5:00:07] fog to picking the wires of my
[5:00:08] mouth my wire my mouth was wired
[5:00:09] shut
[5:00:15] what the blank happened to you
[5:00:17] that's all I could say because I
[5:00:19] didn't know I knew that I was at
[5:00:21] home because I was in my folks'
[5:00:24] bedroom with my bathrobe on my
[5:00:24] name wasen and I played baseball
[5:00:28] but I didn't know anything about
[5:00:30] home kin or baseball. the only
[5:00:32] thing I knew was my mouth was
[5:00:33] wid shut and I didn't know why
[5:00:38] so I walked into my mar tried to
[5:00:39] find my mom. I remember sitting
[5:00:41] back there for a half hour
[5:00:43] trying to figure out what's
[5:00:45] going on and so I walked in to
[5:00:47] try to find my mom who just
[5:00:48] happened to be coming down the
[5:00:52] hallway my my mom operated a
[5:00:53] shoe store and so she's getting
[5:00:55] ready to go to work and Is
[5:00:56] stopped her
[5:00:59] why is my mouth wiren't shut and
[5:01:01] I can still remember that look
[5:01:02] on her face of
[5:01:06] well you were in a snowmobile
[5:01:08] wreck at Summit Lake, but I
[5:01:10] grabbed her and I said momm what
[5:01:12] what what do you mean? I just
[5:01:14] got here fromor which is the
[5:01:16] first time I was ever able to
[5:01:19] say that to her even though it
[5:01:20] would take me three or four
[5:01:22] months to be able to remember
[5:01:25] about being inor and coming home
[5:01:28] I just said it and just that
[5:01:30] look on her face I can still
[5:01:32] feel her arm her hands on my
[5:01:33] arms. Oh your back
[5:01:35] you're back
[5:01:39] what do you mean? what happened
[5:01:41] to me? Why is my mouth wired
[5:01:42] shut?
[5:01:44] So I'd already forgot about
[5:01:45] being in the snowmobile wreck
[5:01:47] and that's the way it is with
[5:01:49] brain injury. it took me a long
[5:01:50] time that short term memory loss
[5:01:54] now I want to come up to
[5:01:58] this next when I this next is a
[5:02:01] letter fromRobert Saposky. he's
[5:02:04] a noted neuroscientist from
[5:02:04] Chicago
[5:02:09] when I came when I came to and I
[5:02:10] started having friends come over
[5:02:13] to see me after after I got out
[5:02:15] of the hospital I could
[5:02:17] recognize her face but I
[5:02:18] couldn't remember their name
[5:02:20] and that really bothered it it
[5:02:23] was embarrassing. I mean I a
[5:02:25] small town my graduating class
[5:02:28] was 98 kids and that was a long
[5:02:31] largest class in in the school
[5:02:32] history but I knew everybody,
[5:02:36] everybody knew me and I couldn't
[5:02:36] remember their name
[5:02:40] and it was just so embarrassing
[5:02:42] and the harder that I tried to
[5:02:44] remember the more impossible it
[5:02:44] was
[5:02:47] but my baseball
[5:02:48] skills kicked in
[5:02:52] because that's one thing you
[5:02:54] learn as a pitcher is how to
[5:02:56] control stress so that you can
[5:02:59] block all this stuff that's
[5:03:01] going on because your job is to
[5:03:03] throw strikes get people out
[5:03:06] that's focused concentration but
[5:03:08] most of all it's relaxation
[5:03:12] because when you're pitching
[5:03:15] and if you don't manage the
[5:03:18] stress your wrist straightens
[5:03:20] out stiffens up and your
[5:03:22] fastball straightens out which
[5:03:25] makes it easier to hit so your
[5:03:27] drill all the time about
[5:03:30] listening to your body. nowadays
[5:03:31] that's called biofeedback
[5:03:35] and staying calm keeping your
[5:03:38] poise, breathing that's all
[5:03:39] called mindfulness
[5:03:40] now
[5:03:46] so all these things that I had
[5:03:49] to learn the hard way. I mean I
[5:03:50] I like to tell people that I
[5:03:52] greg graduated from the school
[5:03:54] of hard knocks because that's
[5:03:57] the way it is. I mean within the
[5:03:59] brain injury
[5:04:03] so let me go and so when I
[5:04:06] did that when I listened to my
[5:04:06] body
[5:04:08] and just
[5:04:10] stayed calm sometimes their name
[5:04:11] would come
[5:04:16] not every time but it it would
[5:04:18] definitely would never come if
[5:04:19] I'm trying to remember and
[5:04:22] it just it just that's just how
[5:04:25] it works and so I kept that and
[5:04:26] so once I started having
[5:04:30] I'm a founding member of the
[5:04:32] Oregon Head Injury Foundation
[5:04:35] in1985 so I'll come up a little
[5:04:39] bit from that50 years so I was
[5:04:41] appointed by5 governors in
[5:04:42] Oregon to sit on the Oregon
[5:04:45] disability commission because of
[5:04:48] my experience and knowhow as a
[5:04:52] vista volunteer in1988. I
[5:04:54] started the first brain injury
[5:04:56] supported living program in
[5:04:56] the country as
[5:05:00] a vista volunteer so I mean I've
[5:05:02] been active in all this stuff
[5:05:04] but this is all part of my
[5:05:06] knowledge and that's what I want
[5:05:08] to share with with y'all because
[5:05:10] right now you've got a you've
[5:05:12] got a your vice chair has had a
[5:05:16] brain injury and it's it really
[5:05:19] is important I mean that that
[5:05:22] you see here as capable and just
[5:05:23] because she has a brain injury
[5:05:24] doesn't mean that she's not
[5:05:26] capable because she's more than
[5:05:26] capable I've talked to her a lot
[5:05:30] I I hope I'm not making her
[5:05:34] uncomfortable but it really
[5:05:36] is critical that we
[5:05:39] identify folks with brain
[5:05:42] injuries on the streets and
[5:05:43] that's really part part of why
[5:05:45] I'm here this next inf
[5:05:48] information I got is a guy
[5:05:50] that's I picked this up when I
[5:05:52] was given my groups I've been
[5:05:54] giving groups here for over
[5:05:56] fif years this was one of my
[5:05:56] first
[5:06:00] groups I went to at the jail to
[5:06:02] talk about brain injury
[5:06:06] awareness bring it because I I
[5:06:08] believe and again that's why I'm
[5:06:12] here is to is to identify people
[5:06:13] with brain injuries on the
[5:06:16] streets of Gallup because unless
[5:06:19] we do this it's going to make
[5:06:21] really solving the problem of
[5:06:23] the revolving door that we have
[5:06:25] here impossible to to end
[5:06:28] so
[5:06:28] the next
[5:06:33] handout I've got is the coping
[5:06:34] with stress
[5:06:36] this is the mindfulness that I
[5:06:37] talk about
[5:06:42] this is the ways that we can
[5:06:45] assist people at the hojos I
[5:06:47] forgot to tell you I'm executive
[5:06:48] director of thehosho Center for
[5:06:51] Personal Enhancement. our office
[5:06:52] is down in the mall. We
[5:06:54] primarily work with people on
[5:06:55] the streets
[5:06:59] I've talked about this
[5:07:01] identifying people with with
[5:07:04] brain injuries for over 20
[5:07:06] years. I just had my 2fourth
[5:07:08] anniversary living ingumerco
[5:07:12] I've been living here for 24
[5:07:14] years so and when the
[5:07:16] hozhouenter was first being
[5:07:19] organized it was being
[5:07:22] organized as a drop in center
[5:07:23] for people on the streets with
[5:07:25] alcohol substance abuse and
[5:07:26] mental health issues
[5:07:30] I got involved because when I
[5:07:32] heard mental health I wanted to
[5:07:34] make sure that people with brain
[5:07:36] injuries were a part of this
[5:07:36] discussion
[5:07:39] because
[5:07:43] mental health mental illness and
[5:07:44] brain injury they're all
[5:07:47] separate well it probably a
[5:07:49] brain injuries are included with
[5:07:50] mental health but I wanted to
[5:07:52] make sure that specifically
[5:07:54] people with brain injuries were
[5:07:54] identified
[5:07:58] so that we could so they would
[5:08:00] receive the type of care in
[5:08:01] terms of stress management,
[5:08:04] everything that I've learned
[5:08:06] over the last50 years has been
[5:08:07] what I've been talking about
[5:08:08] so
[5:08:12] there's the second one young
[5:08:14] young brain shaped by fear and
[5:08:17] pain that really is some of the
[5:08:19] trauma that we're seeing on the
[5:08:22] streets so when and that's why
[5:08:25] everyone is in a state of
[5:08:30] reaction they're not capable
[5:08:31] they're they're in their
[5:08:33] survival skill that their
[5:08:35] survival instincts are in
[5:08:38] control
[5:08:41] uhpresentativeabbelcaballero
[5:08:44] sorry when you mention that
[5:08:45] about intake it's critical
[5:08:50] see that's why I mentioned now
[5:08:52] on your second handout here
[5:08:52] you've got
[5:08:56] we're working with UN them we
[5:08:59] have two interns that we're
[5:09:00] working with who are passing out
[5:09:03] these these are are surveys
[5:09:05] because we want to get to those
[5:09:07] questions because right now
[5:09:10] intakes the way they are they're
[5:09:12] pretty much they don't ask the
[5:09:13] right questions
[5:09:17] and as a part of this handout
[5:09:19] and the questions that we're
[5:09:21] asking on the second page
[5:09:24] there's a
[5:09:27] there's a screening tool
[5:09:31] that we want everybody to use
[5:09:33] right now the only ones that are
[5:09:35] using it are Gallup Indian
[5:09:38] Medical Center that I'm aware of
[5:09:40] some of the MCO's
[5:09:42] presbyterian Molina they've
[5:09:44] picked it up to so they're
[5:09:45] starting to use a different
[5:09:48] screening tool not this one. I
[5:09:49] just found out about this one at
[5:09:51] our last brain injury
[5:09:52] advisory council meeting you
[5:09:55] have a question OK yeah as part
[5:09:57] of our I'm on the brain
[5:09:58] injury advisory council
[5:10:01] and I just found out that that
[5:10:02] we that
[5:10:05] my act have our own separate
[5:10:08] screening tool that's tied in to
[5:10:12] to to the part to HCA so that
[5:10:14] they're starting to gather this
[5:10:15] information so they can kind of
[5:10:16] ferret it out
[5:10:19] and that will that's that will
[5:10:22] be included with Senate
[5:10:23] Bill30. that's part of this
[5:10:25] Senate bill3 again I think that
[5:10:26] you have Senate Bill30
[5:10:28] yeah
[5:10:30] and so
[5:10:31] ok
[5:10:36] the last thing I want to talk
[5:10:38] about is that I was identi I was
[5:10:40] contracted last week this is
[5:10:42] another thing at thehozhoenter
[5:10:44] is working on and that's a
[5:10:46] creation of of a youth center
[5:10:48] youth homeless center there's
[5:10:51] gonna be a meeting at our
[5:10:53] office onn on Thursday at one
[5:10:59] o'clock the person att Donnia
[5:11:00] she's the one that contacted me
[5:11:02] about this meeting we think that
[5:11:02] there's that there's really a
[5:11:03] need for
[5:11:07] a shelter a youth shelter so
[5:11:10] we're so our role is to advocate
[5:11:13] and draw people together so that
[5:11:14] we can create that
[5:11:19] and in closing I just want to
[5:11:20] thank you for this opportunity
[5:11:21] to be here. I know it's kind
[5:11:24] it's a lot to put5y years into
[5:11:30] fif minutes but but you know
[5:11:32] I've been trying to identify
[5:11:35] folks here with brain injuries
[5:11:38] and I see the I see that s that
[5:11:40] sy or that senate bill 30 is a
[5:11:43] way to do that and I'm not
[5:11:45] really sure what I could be
[5:11:47] asking of the committee. I know
[5:11:52] that Judgeyazi in Danielle
[5:11:54] are going to be talking and we
[5:11:54] have an MOU with them
[5:11:58] I don't know if they're they're
[5:11:59] here yet are they here yet? OK
[5:12:00] great.
[5:12:03] so are are you
[5:12:09] OK OK but we support what
[5:12:10] they're doing and they support
[5:12:10] what we're doing
[5:12:15] and and and but it's some we're
[5:12:17] we're the lone angers out here
[5:12:21] you know I mean I've talked to
[5:12:23] Patty Lundstrom and I talked to
[5:12:24] Billy I've been talking for 24
[5:12:26] years in identifying people with
[5:12:29] brain injuries and that it's
[5:12:30] just now starting to happen
[5:12:34] but however how much you can
[5:12:37] help with that I'd really
[5:12:38] appreciate it I I'm telling you
[5:12:42] until we identify these folks
[5:12:44] and get them the care that they
[5:12:46] need the revolving door is going
[5:12:47] to continue here
[5:12:51] and you know we're we the
[5:12:53] hosienter for Personal
[5:12:55] enhancement we're doing some
[5:12:57] good stuff you know and we could
[5:12:58] use your support
[5:13:00] So I don't know that
[5:13:02] my buddy here
[5:13:04] join in
[5:13:11] got ado J Robinsonhom and
[5:13:16] touching in
[5:13:26] richard from Robinson my name
[5:13:28] Robinson I'm very before36 and a
[5:13:28] half years
[5:13:34] I start off with rom pointhaviur
[5:13:34] healthalth
[5:13:36] as a cook used to be cook around
[5:13:37] here
[5:13:39] then
[5:13:44] after that17e years I've been
[5:13:45] working with the behavio health
[5:13:49] after that I left the laid me
[5:13:52] off and I started working for
[5:13:52] Napa Autoarts
[5:13:54] only worked for three weeks
[5:13:58] and hova RChhar me back
[5:13:59] as a
[5:14:03] staff out there and then
[5:14:04] they closed
[5:14:08] 36 years
[5:14:09] then I worked for
[5:14:16] what do you call it Santa Fe
[5:14:17] recovery housing over here
[5:14:18] recovery center I was working
[5:14:18] over there
[5:14:21] and then I I I just resigned
[5:14:26] and I feel comfortable but you
[5:14:26] know I was like ok
[5:14:29] a lot of conflicts between me
[5:14:30] and the
[5:14:32] staff I guess I never knew until
[5:14:35] that in but it was ok I'm
[5:14:36] working with my own people
[5:14:40] then he came and told me that he
[5:14:41] obinson want to hire you I know
[5:14:42] what you do
[5:14:45] so that's why I'm working I'm a
[5:14:47] traditional practitioner forgot
[5:14:48] to tell you that I'm a medicine
[5:14:48] man
[5:14:51] I got license I got certified
[5:14:53] and I never knew I was going
[5:14:54] to be one of that
[5:14:56] I never knew I was going to be
[5:14:57] where I'm sitting at you
[5:15:00] I'm a chapter official too with
[5:15:00] little water chapter
[5:15:04] I'm the vice president for the
[5:15:04] community at the little water
[5:15:09] and I have three kids my
[5:15:10] older daughter working with
[5:15:14] Crown Point Universityiv and
[5:15:16] then my wife would stay as
[5:15:16] human resource
[5:15:20] and then my son he's in Boston,
[5:15:21] Massachusetts atharard
[5:15:22] University MIT
[5:15:23] that's where he's going to
[5:15:24] school
[5:15:27] my son is about to graduate with
[5:15:30] medicalre and then my
[5:15:32] youngest one is working at
[5:15:32] Gallllup in the medicalenter up
[5:15:33] here he's just
[5:15:36] so I'm actually from umiranoly
[5:15:41] this community called pinedale
[5:15:42] Morenno especially in between
[5:15:42] the
[5:15:45] I was raised without no water
[5:15:48] no electric she
[5:15:49] just let go
[5:15:51] we're fighting with the sheep
[5:15:55] just wanted to bring in we have
[5:15:58] and I always think that that's
[5:15:59] ok but you know
[5:16:02] I'm glad I'm I'm here now that
[5:16:04] I'm helping my own people down
[5:16:06] at Hajoenter and recovery
[5:16:08] housing we had a hook on that we
[5:16:08] built up there at the recovery
[5:16:09] house and
[5:16:11] and then I'm down here at the
[5:16:14] the officeistan here doing
[5:16:14] talking in circle
[5:16:18] people come in come in every
[5:16:19] every morning to come in
[5:16:20] to sign up and
[5:16:23] the thing that I tell him to say
[5:16:24] hey man look at me
[5:16:27] I should be one of you. I used
[5:16:28] to walk the street when I was
[5:16:28] young
[5:16:30] tell them that you saw s sleep
[5:16:31] in the
[5:16:31] ditch
[5:16:35] where you guys were at you see
[5:16:36] you out of the
[5:16:40] I went there for what
[5:16:41] now I'm here
[5:16:45] and you guys can change
[5:16:47] I changed when I was 25 years
[5:16:48] old.
[5:16:51] and today we tell them that on
[5:16:58] there's good people up there
[5:16:58] that you can understand
[5:16:59] you know
[5:17:03] and I lost my mom when I was
[5:17:04] three years old
[5:17:04] I don't know how but
[5:17:07] and then my dad about 20
[5:17:12] this is part of my
[5:17:13] work
[5:17:13] every day
[5:17:17] I'm enjoying coming in from
[5:17:20] Liwater to here about an hour m
[5:17:20] round trip
[5:17:21] or street
[5:17:23] the long streets1
[5:17:28] so that's me thank you again for
[5:17:30] having me here sitting sharing
[5:17:31] my
[5:17:32] my experience with alcohol
[5:17:35] I always tell these guys that
[5:17:36] too is that
[5:17:39] nowadays nowadays there's
[5:17:40] alcohol miniatures
[5:17:40] or whatever they have
[5:17:44] they have watermelon flavor
[5:17:47] banana flavors that's what all
[5:17:48] our young kids are dying from
[5:17:48] they can't
[5:17:52] taste the alcohol that's where
[5:17:53] they eating the liver
[5:17:55] and I kept telling me I need
[5:17:59] thank you again for listening
[5:18:10] Thank you madam chairir. I just
[5:18:11] want to thank you for your
[5:18:13] presentation and your work in
[5:18:14] our
[5:18:19] previously I know I have
[5:18:20] earmarked
[5:18:41] communities or
[5:19:02] sorry
[5:19:08] do we had a dinner at Don
[5:19:11] Diego's it's an annual dinner
[5:19:14] with Santa Fe recovery with
[5:19:16] their board and I brought up to
[5:19:18] the chair and the new CEO for
[5:19:21] them to take the lead in
[5:19:23] developing a brain injury
[5:19:24] rehabilitation program
[5:19:29] they have a contact in I
[5:19:31] think it was Colorado with it an
[5:19:34] agency or or an organization
[5:19:36] that works specifically with
[5:19:38] alcohol substance abuse and
[5:19:41] brain injury so I'm working on
[5:19:42] that right now and if we could
[5:19:45] get say that organization to
[5:19:48] come here and set up shop that
[5:19:49] would be great. that would be
[5:19:52] just what we need because that's
[5:19:53] one of the things that's
[5:19:54] identified insenate bill30 is
[5:19:58] a need a recommendation that
[5:20:00] because right now there's no
[5:20:01] place in state everybody sent
[5:20:02] out a state
[5:20:05] for any kind of rehab brain
[5:20:06] injury rehab
[5:20:12] injury rehabilitation injury
[5:20:14] rehabilitation program that's
[5:20:15] one of the recommendations
[5:20:18] because there's nothing in in in
[5:20:19] New Mexico and there needs to be
[5:20:23] but so that's what I mentioned
[5:20:24] to but they say oh that's
[5:20:25] something we could look at so I
[5:20:27] mean see it's this kind of work
[5:20:30] I see that I do to give people
[5:20:33] ideas and reach out and connect
[5:20:34] with people
[5:20:39] but they didn't say no they just
[5:20:41] said then then that's how he
[5:20:43] found out about this the program
[5:20:45] that they know about that works
[5:20:46] with people with brain injuries
[5:20:51] because that would be ideal and
[5:20:54] then we are also working with
[5:20:56] brain injury it's not brain it's
[5:20:58] life skillsternational and
[5:21:00] that's something that I'm hoping
[5:21:03] that Judgeyazi will will bring
[5:21:05] up because we're working on
[5:21:06] identi this this this
[5:21:12] life skillsternational they
[5:21:15] work around the state but it's
[5:21:16] healing childhood trauma
[5:21:22] and curing complex PTSD
[5:21:25] they've got curriculum, they
[5:21:27] work with schools they've worked
[5:21:29] with domestic violence
[5:21:32] organizations with state
[5:21:35] agencies probation so they've
[5:21:38] worked with a number of and so
[5:21:39] that's who we're trying to get
[5:21:41] within our MOU that we're
[5:21:44] working on with with the courts
[5:21:48] is have the courts work with
[5:21:50] life skillsternational and I'm
[5:21:51] hoping that they're going to
[5:21:52] come up and she all kinds of
[5:21:53] great
[5:21:56] things about what they're doing
[5:21:59] but but but this has so much
[5:22:00] potential to solve our problems
[5:22:01] here
[5:22:03] to solve childhood trauma
[5:22:09] and cure complex PTSD and I
[5:22:12] believe in them. I I mean I it's
[5:22:14] it's not just belief but I've
[5:22:18] been involved with hearing and
[5:22:21] working with life skills to
[5:22:23] know that what they're talking
[5:22:25] about is the same thing that I
[5:22:28] talk about but it's finding the
[5:22:31] are really getting to that place
[5:22:33] to where practice you know
[5:22:36] that's what the curriculum
[5:22:38] offers people is a way because
[5:22:40] it's not just it's like with
[5:22:43] mindfulness for example you can
[5:22:44] read about mindfulness and go oh
[5:22:46] yeah that makes sense but you've
[5:22:48] got to practice it you got to
[5:22:51] practice it and so that's what
[5:22:53] life schools International has
[5:22:56] done. they've developed a system
[5:22:58] with a curriculum that makes it
[5:22:59] all happen
[5:23:01] and I'll just leave it up to
[5:23:03] them now to hope I didn't
[5:23:10] thank you and I think the
[5:23:11] well I don't really have
[5:23:12] questions for
[5:23:15] yeah we talked about
[5:23:20] but do have questions for our
[5:23:23] our our state people where this
[5:23:24] is going so
[5:23:29] and about finding in about SB3
[5:23:32] and all of that but stay in the
[5:23:32] stay in the conversation
[5:23:34] continue to advocate that's very
[5:23:35] important especially with this
[5:23:44] do you
[5:23:48] get the notices on some of that
[5:23:51] I believe you were involved with
[5:23:52] some of the planning that
[5:23:58] Wa SB3 I was but I never got
[5:23:58] invited back
[5:24:02] think they well they did have
[5:24:03] the initial meetings and yeah
[5:24:05] they had the initial meetings
[5:24:06] and there's been ongoing but we
[5:24:07] don't give you any help from
[5:24:12] people well yeah it was just
[5:24:13] really developing the point but
[5:24:15] thank you thank you for the work
[5:24:18] you do I don't want
[5:24:22] there'll be future work
[5:24:23] oh you're in trouble
[5:24:28] ok so committee members but
[5:24:29] thank you for joining us thank
[5:24:31] you Mr do you have any closing
[5:24:33] comment thank you very much and
[5:24:34] forgot to mention my brother
[5:24:35] I have an older brother named
[5:24:38] young Jeff Tom that's my older
[5:24:39] brother. I'm the youngest one
[5:24:40] from that family
[5:24:42] so just letting you guys do that
[5:24:46] thank you and now we will move
[5:24:49] to item 6 update from the
[5:24:51] McKinley County DWI court with
[5:24:55] our judgeyazi and miss Daniel
[5:24:56] Lechetti with the manager
[5:25:10] Testing testing
[5:25:18] good afternoon madam chairir.
[5:25:22] Senator Pino and of course
[5:25:23] committee members and of course
[5:25:25] representatives good afternoon
[5:25:26] thank you again for inviting us
[5:25:28] to give you an update on our DWI
[5:25:29] treatment program
[5:25:34] ga in I am Virginia Yazie I
[5:25:37] am currently the presiding judge
[5:25:39] over our DWI treatment program
[5:25:41] at the magistrate court here in
[5:25:42] Gallup.
[5:25:44] let me introduce myself again
[5:25:47] in Navajo I'm Navajo show
[5:25:50] y'all Virginiayazinia hasinli
[5:25:56] chai t
[5:26:01] and a nasha I come from
[5:26:03] cottonellevide. I drive every
[5:26:06] day again on I-40 with all the
[5:26:10] construction going on on on I-40
[5:26:12] so I make it to work on time
[5:26:13] sometimes especially during the
[5:26:14] wintertime it's kind of
[5:26:14] difficult to drive
[5:26:18] but again we're here to again
[5:26:20] provide you updates again
[5:26:22] regarding our DWI treatment
[5:26:24] program.gain our DWI treatment
[5:26:26] program has been in fruition
[5:26:30] since 2022 during that time
[5:26:34] we had our program was
[5:26:37] we didn't have a lot of support
[5:26:39] during that time and where we
[5:26:40] were going to lose our funding
[5:26:42] for our DWI treatment program
[5:26:44] and we had to become we had to
[5:26:46] come before this committee to
[5:26:48] request that the the funds not
[5:26:50] be reverted back to again the
[5:26:52] state so we can continue to try
[5:26:55] to create our program in
[5:26:57] which again Senator Pinto during
[5:26:59] that time representative
[5:27:01] Johnson and all the other
[5:27:02] representatives during that
[5:27:04] timegain assisted us in keeping
[5:27:04] the program
[5:27:07] going and now we earn inn
[5:27:10] fruition again we are again
[5:27:13] thankful for all the support
[5:27:14] that was provided by our
[5:27:16] representatives at this moment
[5:27:18] again we have a during that time
[5:27:19] I had a different
[5:27:23] program manager. her name was
[5:27:24] Chanellle Franklin and
[5:27:26] she went on to of course
[5:27:31] continue her education in the
[5:27:34] in the behavioral health field
[5:27:36] and again we are thankful for
[5:27:38] everything that she's done for
[5:27:39] our program and now we have our
[5:27:42] new program manager here Miss
[5:27:44] Daniel Likety I'm gonna have her
[5:27:45] introduce herself and then
[5:27:47] she'll give us a rundown as to
[5:27:49] again she'll provide us an
[5:27:50] update as to how our program is
[5:27:51] doing Mlikety
[5:27:54] thank you judgedge. good
[5:27:56] afternoon everyone. My name is
[5:27:58] Danielle Lekety. I'm very sorry
[5:28:00] I'm not able to introduce myself
[5:28:02] traditionally. I am a urban
[5:28:02] native.
[5:28:06] my name is Danielleakety. I am
[5:28:08] half Navajo and half Sunni
[5:28:11] and I've lived in Gallup my
[5:28:13] entire life. My dad was from
[5:28:15] Zunni. He born and raised in
[5:28:16] zuni and was sent to rehobus for
[5:28:17] school.
[5:28:20] and he never moved back to Zunni
[5:28:22] so he he stayed in Gallup was
[5:28:25] part of the medical field he
[5:28:26] was an EMT paramedic and
[5:28:27] instructor coordinator for M
[5:28:30] mestar and helped set up the
[5:28:33] EMS system here inallup here
[5:28:34] in Zunni as well as the Navajo
[5:28:37] Nation. He assisted Sa Benito
[5:28:39] with their EMS services setting
[5:28:41] that up. like I said, I've lived
[5:28:43] here for in gallup for my entire
[5:28:45] life born and raised so my
[5:28:47] community means a lot to me and
[5:28:48] this was
[5:28:51] this is meaningful work to me
[5:28:55] so to follow up on Ju what
[5:28:58] Judgeazzie stated we are very
[5:28:59] thankful that this program is
[5:29:02] still up and going and shenel
[5:29:04] did a lot of work just putting
[5:29:05] it together, getting it
[5:29:06] established, getting it off the
[5:29:06] ground
[5:29:10] came in and picked up where she
[5:29:11] left off so I'm very thankful
[5:29:13] for the work that she did before
[5:29:15] me. as Dojazzy said our first
[5:29:17] participant for the program
[5:29:19] was inducted back in November of
[5:29:20] 2022.
[5:29:25] as to date we have graduated16
[5:29:26] of our participants so far.
[5:29:29] total number of participants we
[5:29:31] have served in the program is42.
[5:29:34] so we have had42 participants in
[5:29:36] total since the first induction
[5:29:36] in November of 2022.
[5:29:41] Our current caseload is18. I do
[5:29:43] have17 individuals in person and
[5:29:44] one in extended treatment
[5:29:48] we have had in total 24
[5:29:48] discharges
[5:29:51] seven of these discharges were
[5:29:54] unsuccessful.wo absconded and
[5:29:54] ive were noncompliant.
[5:29:58] There was one neutral discharge
[5:29:58] for medical reasons
[5:30:04] and16 successful discharges. We
[5:30:06] also have 6 participants that
[5:30:08] are scheduled to graduate on
[5:30:10] Monday, September twentyeh
[5:30:11] which will bring our count to
[5:30:16] 3030 discharges but 22
[5:30:16] successful graduations.
[5:30:19] we also
[5:30:23] our recidivism rate our graduate
[5:30:26] recidivism rate for fy 26
[5:30:28] is14.29%. However, I was
[5:30:31] informed by my supervisor
[5:30:32] this afternoon as well that we
[5:30:34] are actually below the national
[5:30:37] average for recidivism which is
[5:30:40] a 28 to35% rate three years
[5:30:43] postgrad. so that was very
[5:30:45] very encouraging to hear you
[5:30:46] know
[5:30:48] so that that's those are our
[5:30:51] current numbers now we will
[5:30:53] be accepting new referrals
[5:30:55] probably at the end of the year.
[5:30:58] with discharging six of these
[5:31:00] participants that does bring my
[5:31:02] caseload down to12. So I try to
[5:31:04] keep it roughly about 20 I think
[5:31:06] my largest caseload was about 21
[5:31:09] or 22 individuals but for me to
[5:31:10] oversee them and supervise them
[5:31:11] on my own that's quite a bit so
[5:31:13] I try to cap it out at 20 but
[5:31:15] the more individuals we can help
[5:31:16] you know that's that's the most
[5:31:17] important thing
[5:31:19] so yes those are those are
[5:31:21] some numbers but just to kind of
[5:31:22] give you an idea of our program
[5:31:25] as well we do have a
[5:31:26] multidisciplinary team which
[5:31:28] consists of the judge she
[5:31:30] oversees the program. I'm the
[5:31:32] program manager and coordinator.
[5:31:35] I also do supervision and
[5:31:37] kinda whatever needs to be done,
[5:31:39] I I will switch my hat as
[5:31:40] necessary. We are currently
[5:31:44] contracted withinsu Behavioral
[5:31:46] Health which is a newer agency
[5:31:49] within the community I
[5:31:51] believe they got started about
[5:31:53] I'm a couple of years ago I
[5:31:54] don't want to give an exact
[5:31:55] date. I may be wrong but yes
[5:31:56] they they have been in the
[5:31:58] community for I want to say
[5:32:01] about5 years or so we were
[5:32:03] previously contracted with our
[5:32:05] Corners or Santa Ferecovery as
[5:32:06] they're now known. we still have
[5:32:08] an MOUis four corners here for
[5:32:11] our inpatient residential so
[5:32:12] we're able to send particip
[5:32:14] ant s that are qualified for
[5:32:16] inpatient here to wind I'm
[5:32:17] sorry here to our corners here
[5:32:20] in Gallup. and still working
[5:32:22] withinsung as well. We also did
[5:32:24] develop an MOU as Ken said
[5:32:27] withhozhouenter for Personal
[5:32:28] Enhancement. So we are
[5:32:33] we are hoping that we can well
[5:32:34] not hoping this is what our plan
[5:32:36] is is we're gonna start to
[5:32:38] incorporate more healing to
[5:32:39] wellness what's called healing
[5:32:40] to wellness and what that is is
[5:32:42] basically traditional healing.
[5:32:45] so we can utilize their
[5:32:46] serviceshozhouenter services
[5:32:49] such as their hoon for any type
[5:32:51] of meetings and also their
[5:32:54] well brady talking circle so
[5:32:56] those are some more options for
[5:32:57] our participants who want to
[5:32:59] stay engaged with traditional
[5:33:00] practices and it also opens
[5:33:03] up the cultural and
[5:33:06] traditional component for those
[5:33:08] individuals who maybe grew up
[5:33:09] without that connection without
[5:33:11] that tie and now they're they're
[5:33:12] looking for something they're
[5:33:14] searching you know for
[5:33:16] spirituality and that's
[5:33:17] another option for them so we
[5:33:19] encourage them to stay connected
[5:33:20] with their traditions and
[5:33:23] developing that MOU withhozi was
[5:33:25] a way for us to do that and
[5:33:27] provide those for our
[5:33:29] participants. we also have an
[5:33:30] alumni support group that I
[5:33:31] would like to highlight because
[5:33:33] I think our alumni support group
[5:33:34] is a very important part of our
[5:33:35] program
[5:33:38] the alumni support group
[5:33:40] consists of graduates of the
[5:33:41] program
[5:33:44] and they they the train
[5:33:46] coordinators we have4 trained
[5:33:47] coordinators so they went
[5:33:49] through the training process to
[5:33:51] become a coordinator learning
[5:33:52] about ethics learning about
[5:33:53] boundaries learning how to
[5:33:55] conduct a group appropriately.
[5:33:57] so we do have4 trained
[5:33:59] coordinators for our program
[5:34:01] to our contracted with the state
[5:34:03] of New Mexico and two are
[5:34:05] pending graduation at after
[5:34:06] graduation they will be
[5:34:07] contracted. So out of those six
[5:34:09] graduates we have on Monday
[5:34:10] two of them are ready to
[5:34:11] contract with the state of New
[5:34:12] Mexico as alumni coordinators
[5:34:16] we hold our alumni support group
[5:34:18] at the courthouse before ourDWI
[5:34:20] treatment court docket. it's an
[5:34:22] hourlong, just basically a
[5:34:24] recovery group something where
[5:34:26] they it I guess it could be
[5:34:28] equated to something similar to
[5:34:30] like a maybe an AA group a
[5:34:32] support group but it's also just
[5:34:33] a safe space for them to
[5:34:36] share and
[5:34:40] just you know kind of reflect on
[5:34:42] things together as a whole.
[5:34:43] Again, these are participants of
[5:34:45] the program both previously and
[5:34:46] current. and this is only for
[5:34:47] our participants of the
[5:34:49] treatment court programme. So I
[5:34:50] always tell the participants you
[5:34:52] know it's a safe place. please
[5:34:55] go and attend if you want to
[5:34:56] vent about the program you want
[5:34:57] to vent about me you know that's
[5:34:58] a safe place it's it's all
[5:35:00] confidential our alumni
[5:35:01] coordinators do keep it
[5:35:03] confidential and are only
[5:35:05] required to for mandated
[5:35:06] reporting so our participants
[5:35:07] have
[5:35:09] really enjoyed that and I
[5:35:11] appreciate our two trained
[5:35:13] coordinators that are contracted
[5:35:15] Tyrone Castillo and Duane
[5:35:18] Chamani. when I came on for this
[5:35:21] program officially came on I
[5:35:22] over I started to oversee the
[5:35:23] program in February of
[5:35:28] 2024 and then started with the
[5:35:29] state of New Mexico became a
[5:35:30] permanent employee in September
[5:35:33] of 2024 as well. So within that
[5:35:35] time I was just overseeing
[5:35:36] the program and working for the
[5:35:37] compliance program with
[5:35:40] McKinley County. once I was
[5:35:42] officially in my position as the
[5:35:43] program manager, the first thing
[5:35:45] that I told my supervisor was I
[5:35:46] want to get the alumni group
[5:35:47] going. We know we need to have
[5:35:48] some support for our
[5:35:51] participants as well. and I
[5:35:52] put the offer out there to our
[5:35:54] previous graduates and
[5:35:55] thankfullyduane and Tyrone did
[5:35:57] step up and you know offered to
[5:35:58] help me so they've been employed
[5:35:59] with the state probably just as
[5:36:02] long as I have but I I have a
[5:36:04] deep appreciation for them
[5:36:06] Tyrone in the meantime has
[5:36:06] advanced his education
[5:36:10] and is enrolled with the UNM and
[5:36:13] looking to pursue a career in
[5:36:14] the behavioral health field as
[5:36:16] well he's doing great things and
[5:36:18] working with peer peer
[5:36:20] members from thehozhou uhenter
[5:36:23] as well and thenduanne is also
[5:36:24] our
[5:36:26] our other coordinator he is from
[5:36:29] Zunni as well and he stays in
[5:36:31] contact with celebrate recovery
[5:36:32] and you know kind of keeps the
[5:36:34] recovery group going within the
[5:36:36] unique community and our our
[5:36:38] community here within Gallup and
[5:36:39] then also being a part of our
[5:36:40] alumni group as well. So I'm
[5:36:42] very thankful for these
[5:36:44] individuals and I think peer
[5:36:45] support is you know the other
[5:36:47] half of what makes our program
[5:36:49] work. being able to have peers
[5:36:51] available for our participants
[5:36:52] that understand what they're
[5:36:53] going through, understand how
[5:36:54] difficult the
[5:36:57] program can be and but they
[5:36:59] can say they did it you know
[5:37:00] they made it they struggled
[5:37:02] through it so whatever support
[5:37:03] they and motivation they can
[5:37:05] offer our participants we we
[5:37:06] extremely are appreciative of it
[5:37:12] and then like I said just a it's
[5:37:14] just a kind of a rundown of how
[5:37:16] our how our program works I'm
[5:37:17] not sure if you all are you know
[5:37:19] familiar with treatment courts
[5:37:20] but we do have a
[5:37:22] multidisciplinary team that
[5:37:22] consists of the
[5:37:26] the judge myself probation
[5:37:28] officers from the compliance
[5:37:30] program our treatment providers
[5:37:32] as well as we have a
[5:37:34] contracted defense counsel for
[5:37:36] our for our participants. So our
[5:37:39] defense counsel is our go to for
[5:37:40] our participants if there's any
[5:37:42] noncompliance, if there's you
[5:37:43] know any kind of questions,
[5:37:45] anything like that our defense
[5:37:47] counsel makes sure that we're
[5:37:49] abiding by all legal proceedings
[5:37:51] and you know not violating
[5:37:52] anybody's rights so they are the
[5:37:52] advocate for our participants
[5:37:53] and our participant
[5:37:56] s know that and they will call
[5:37:59] her they you know we've we're
[5:38:00] going through a transition right
[5:38:02] now and there was some issues
[5:38:04] regarding UAs and of course you
[5:38:06] know you a's are always gonna
[5:38:08] make our participants nervous
[5:38:10] you know if there may be like
[5:38:11] false positives or whatever so
[5:38:13] they contacted their defense
[5:38:15] counsel but this was a great
[5:38:16] illustration of our
[5:38:17] participant's learning to
[5:38:19] advocate for themselves. so that
[5:38:22] was a great way for us to say
[5:38:22] you know you're doing what
[5:38:23] you're supposed to be doing and
[5:38:23] and they
[5:38:25] ' re you know they're being
[5:38:27] heard and somebody is advocating
[5:38:28] for them and some of these
[5:38:28] things are
[5:38:33] are participants have never had
[5:38:35] to do this before or they may be
[5:38:37] scared they may not know how to
[5:38:38] go about it. They just kind of
[5:38:39] roll with the punches they've
[5:38:40] been in the legal system for so
[5:38:42] long they just do what they're
[5:38:43] told but so we're we're showing
[5:38:45] them to advocate for themselves
[5:38:46] and then to touch a little bit
[5:38:48] on a life skills that Ken was
[5:38:50] talking about. We do have
[5:38:51] certain curriculums that they
[5:38:52] are required to
[5:38:56] complete the treatment component
[5:38:57] is through the entirety of the
[5:38:59] program so as soon as we get
[5:39:01] them in they're going for IopP
[5:39:02] which is intensive outpatient a
[5:39:05] 90da program. Once they complete
[5:39:07] that they step down to what is
[5:39:09] called moral recognition therapy
[5:39:11] and that is where we see the
[5:39:14] change happening and it is it
[5:39:16] it'si do not have the words for
[5:39:18] it. I have been meeting with our
[5:39:20] graduates today and tomorrow
[5:39:21] I will be meeting with our ix
[5:39:22] graduates for their final
[5:39:23] check-ins
[5:39:26] and I met with three today and
[5:39:26] it was very emotional
[5:39:28] just to see
[5:39:31] the person who sat in front of
[5:39:33] me when I sold them on the on
[5:39:35] the program and screened them
[5:39:37] and told them hey you qualify
[5:39:38] you know do you want to take
[5:39:40] this opportunity versus who I
[5:39:42] see sitting in front of me. for
[5:39:43] example one of my participants
[5:39:45] my female participants came in
[5:39:47] and I had her on probation at
[5:39:48] compliance so she kind of
[5:39:50] followed me over. I knew her
[5:39:53] backstory. I knew there was
[5:39:54] noncompliance and what the
[5:39:55] issues were you know housing
[5:39:56] environment stuff like that she
[5:39:57] was in a bad environment
[5:40:00] now
[5:40:03] I met with her today and I was
[5:40:05] so happy just that that was my
[5:40:07] first checkin today and it was
[5:40:09] very emotional for many reasons.
[5:40:11] Within this program she has
[5:40:13] obtained her own housing. She
[5:40:15] has moved out from living with
[5:40:17] her family, which was the toxic
[5:40:18] environment and she was able to
[5:40:21] obtain housing on her own not
[5:40:22] just one apartment she found an
[5:40:24] apartment you know wasn't the
[5:40:25] right place for her, didn't work
[5:40:28] out for her finances and she
[5:40:29] found another apartment and just
[5:40:30] continued to motivate herself
[5:40:32] and following up on these
[5:40:34] applications and so she's where
[5:40:36] she needs to be in a good
[5:40:37] environment a nice neighborhood,
[5:40:40] safe house, she does have
[5:40:42] custody of one of her daughters
[5:40:43] and is working on regaining
[5:40:45] custody of the other daughter.
[5:40:47] She told me today that she is
[5:40:49] has the younger daughter who she
[5:40:50] does not have custody of.
[5:40:51] she's able to bring her over on
[5:40:53] the weekends and she's
[5:40:55] planning on keeping her for the
[5:40:57] fall break and just working up
[5:40:59] to eventually petitioning for
[5:41:00] custody again. so very proud of
[5:41:00] her but
[5:41:02] like I said to see the
[5:41:04] individual who sat in who sat in
[5:41:05] front of me this morning who
[5:41:07] sits who who sits in front of me
[5:41:09] you know big change, major
[5:41:12] life changes attitude and that's
[5:41:14] one thing I think we can all say
[5:41:17] we we don't like to be told hey
[5:41:19] you've got an attitude you know
[5:41:20] don't be like that but these are
[5:41:22] things we have to tell our
[5:41:24] participants because it's a it's
[5:41:26] a whole change you know full
[5:41:29] circle so and they get it they
[5:41:30] really do get it and I think
[5:41:30] that moral recognition the
[5:41:32] ra p y does help just to
[5:41:36] encourage accountability and
[5:41:38] that's one of the biggest things
[5:41:39] that helps them is just being
[5:41:42] able to say yes I did that. I'm
[5:41:44] sorry let's make amends and
[5:41:46] let's move on from it and that's
[5:41:47] what moral recognition therapy
[5:41:48] does a lot with their family as
[5:41:50] well so we're seeing
[5:41:52] relationships being rebuilt with
[5:41:54] the family with the kids you
[5:41:56] know and these are trust is lost
[5:41:57] you know so that's a hard thing
[5:41:59] to regain that trust with your
[5:42:00] family but also with your
[5:42:02] children and this participant
[5:42:02] did tell me this morning
[5:42:06] I had a moment of realization
[5:42:08] this weekend of course because
[5:42:09] there was the blackout you know
[5:42:11] we had no utilities for quite a
[5:42:12] while so she was sitting there
[5:42:14] and she said my girls had a
[5:42:15] little dance party in the living
[5:42:16] room. they brought out their
[5:42:17] glow sticks. they brought out
[5:42:18] their little lights they had the
[5:42:20] the phone going you know so they
[5:42:21] had a little dance party she
[5:42:22] goes and I took a step back
[5:42:23] and
[5:42:26] I just she goes it was just like
[5:42:28] one of those being in the moment
[5:42:30] moments where she was in her own
[5:42:32] place at her kitchen table. herr
[5:42:34] girls were here with her and
[5:42:37] they were safe and what got me
[5:42:38] what got me right in the heart
[5:42:39] was she said and my girls knew
[5:42:40] they were safe.
[5:42:44] intoxicated they didn't have to
[5:42:46] worry about mom and they weren't
[5:42:48] there taking care of each other
[5:42:50] because I was not in the right
[5:42:51] state of mind. Oh it it makes me
[5:42:53] emotional now but you know to
[5:42:54] hear her say that was like
[5:42:58] wow I have no other words for it
[5:43:00] than wow you know and I I just
[5:43:02] told her I wish I had all the
[5:43:04] words in the world to tell you
[5:43:06] how proud of you I am and one
[5:43:08] thing I do tell them is there's
[5:43:10] a lot life is hard we all know
[5:43:12] life is hard. This may be the
[5:43:13] hardest thing you've done in
[5:43:14] your life and if it is
[5:43:15] congratulations you did it
[5:43:19] You are doing it so don't ever
[5:43:21] doubt yourself and know that you
[5:43:22] can do hard things in life you
[5:43:24] know it's just about asking for
[5:43:26] help and finding the right
[5:43:28] people to support you and I
[5:43:30] think that's where our team
[5:43:32] comes in, our empathy and our
[5:43:34] compassion from the judge from
[5:43:35] myself, from our
[5:43:37] multidisciplinary team and most
[5:43:39] s most especially from our peers
[5:43:49] Well and again that was a big
[5:43:51] rundown but ok
[5:43:53] but I'm glad again that Danielle
[5:43:55] shared with us again our success
[5:43:57] in our program. We again
[5:43:58] treatment works
[5:44:01] if you listen if you believe you
[5:44:03] have empathy and compassion for
[5:44:05] your community right now again
[5:44:06] our
[5:44:10] participants were100% Native
[5:44:11] American. they're all DWI
[5:44:12] related
[5:44:15] everyone who's in our program
[5:44:18] again it's all related to DWI so
[5:44:20] again we're doing our best again
[5:44:22] and we have we have had two
[5:44:24] gentlemen who've asked me to
[5:44:26] throw them in jail put them in
[5:44:28] jail and I told him I'm not
[5:44:30] giving up on you I'm not gonna
[5:44:31] give you that leeway and I'm not
[5:44:32] gonna place you in custody
[5:44:33] you're gonna finish this program
[5:44:35] so what now the when she
[5:44:37] mentioned Mr Tyrone Castillo
[5:44:39] who's now our alumni
[5:44:41] coordinator. thanks me everyday
[5:44:42] almost every every time we have
[5:44:43] our
[5:44:45] our our session that he's very
[5:44:47] thankful because he's on the
[5:44:48] right path and he's becoming
[5:44:48] successful
[5:44:52] again and he was one of those
[5:44:54] gentleman again who I guess you
[5:44:55] would see out on the street who
[5:44:56] was like thuglike I guess you
[5:44:58] could say that he would have a
[5:45:02] thug life and a gangster but he
[5:45:04] phased out of it and now he's
[5:45:05] become a man and he's become a
[5:45:07] better man man for himself and
[5:45:08] his mother so
[5:45:10] that was a successful story for
[5:45:14] us again and his mom he she came
[5:45:16] to the graduation and she was
[5:45:17] very grateful to see her son
[5:45:18] again
[5:45:23] and she she shed some tears
[5:45:25] and very she was very emotional
[5:45:27] with who she saw and then of
[5:45:28] course we'd had an emotional
[5:45:30] other graduates who had their
[5:45:31] parents come through and again
[5:45:33] those stories are emotional as
[5:45:36] well so again treatment works
[5:45:38] but again you have to believe
[5:45:41] and again leadership have to
[5:45:42] believe as well
[5:45:43] people can change
[5:45:47] again and this is our community
[5:45:49] and we want to make our
[5:45:51] community better we want to heal
[5:45:53] our young kids that are walking
[5:45:54] the streets and again
[5:45:58] older older again older
[5:45:59] generation as well who
[5:46:01] experienced again childhood
[5:46:06] trauma again historical
[5:46:08] trauma and that's where we stand
[5:46:09] with this program and
[5:46:13] we're very thankful for what
[5:46:14] we've accomplished right now in
[5:46:16] this program and we're thankful
[5:46:18] for the support of you all again
[5:46:20] as leaderships as well and again
[5:46:22] we want to continue we want your
[5:46:24] continued support again from us
[5:46:26] that's all we're asking of
[5:46:27] course to give you updates and
[5:46:28] again your support that's about
[5:46:30] it so again we appreciate the
[5:46:33] invitation and I hope again you
[5:46:34] again you're satisfied with the
[5:46:35] update and we're again we're
[5:46:36] gonna continue to do our work
[5:46:39] we appreciate the invitation.
[5:46:40] thank you.
[5:46:41] thank you and question
[5:46:45] so our new member
[5:46:54] I think for our new members
[5:46:56] this has been something we've
[5:46:58] worked on with Judge Yazley
[5:47:00] to them coming forward with
[5:47:03] Chanel and just really hearing
[5:47:04] the program and how they
[5:47:07] developed it to really meet the
[5:47:09] needs of those that were I mean
[5:47:11] there's some restrictions on it
[5:47:12] because they knew like
[5:47:13] how far away will they
[5:47:18] that they weren't setting them
[5:47:19] up for failure and all those
[5:47:20] things
[5:47:26] mention it but it was really
[5:47:28] eye opening because some people
[5:47:28] think oh we just
[5:47:32] and I do have some questions
[5:47:34] that will lead us into certain
[5:47:37] things but very grateful for
[5:47:38] for that development and all
[5:47:39] those considerations given
[5:47:44] you said set them up for failure
[5:47:46] in some sense it was really
[5:47:47] about getting them through and
[5:47:48] really
[5:47:54] Through the programpresentative
[5:47:54] Garcia
[5:48:04] my question is in regards to
[5:48:06] your pamphlet says that you
[5:48:08] must be a resident of new
[5:48:08] McKinley County.
[5:48:10] and
[5:48:14] I'm not sure which court it was
[5:48:16] but
[5:48:20] this past week I got a notice
[5:48:22] from a young lady not wanting a
[5:48:23] letter stating that
[5:48:28] I guess the probation officer
[5:48:28] wanted
[5:48:32] a letter fromRaymond Apo chapter
[5:48:35] to allow them to come on to our
[5:48:38] community to visit the lady
[5:48:40] week on a weekly basis and maybe
[5:48:41] even two times a week and
[5:48:46] she said that the judge that
[5:48:49] made the made the order and
[5:48:51] gave it to the probation officer
[5:48:54] whatever communication that
[5:48:57] was made was not clearly
[5:49:00] explained to her except that
[5:49:02] you're not you are now on
[5:49:04] probation and therefore you will
[5:49:06] be coming in but since she lives
[5:49:10] inibla County they said
[5:49:12] the probation officer will be
[5:49:12] going out there to visit
[5:49:14] with her and
[5:49:18] she wanted to know if it was
[5:49:21] possible to have someone
[5:49:23] fromiblela County as a probation
[5:49:24] officer to come out because that
[5:49:27] would be closer for her or for
[5:49:28] her to go in and visit or for
[5:49:30] that person to come and visit
[5:49:32] her so that was a situation I
[5:49:34] came upon this past week and I
[5:49:36] did write a letter saying that
[5:49:38] it was ok for the probation
[5:49:40] officer to becoming and be
[5:49:43] visiting with her but beyond
[5:49:44] that that was the question that
[5:49:45] she had asked
[5:49:46] could you said
[5:49:49] the judge
[5:49:53] but she wants to transfer to
[5:49:56] McKinley County probably it's
[5:49:56] from McKinleyelunty judge
[5:50:01] and the probation officers in is
[5:50:03] in Mcinley County. Now she wants
[5:50:04] to know if she could have the
[5:50:06] probation officer fromiela
[5:50:07] County come out because that was
[5:50:08] closer.
[5:50:10] thank youpresentative Garcia
[5:50:15] again probation we don't
[5:50:16] controlled with probation again
[5:50:18] first of all we don't have
[5:50:20] jurisdiction inRama because
[5:50:22] again that's a Navajo nation and
[5:50:25] that's what we always address is
[5:50:27] the issue again again cross
[5:50:30] jurisdiction in order for us to
[5:50:32] cross over to the reservation we
[5:50:35] need to get an MOU from the
[5:50:36] nation so we're still working on
[5:50:39] again getting that approval from
[5:50:41] the nation but as for probation
[5:50:43] that's a probation question
[5:50:45] again for whoever that that
[5:50:46] individual would be would need
[5:50:47] to get approval from McKinley
[5:50:48] County probation.
[5:50:51] and from there they can work
[5:50:53] with one another to transfer to
[5:50:54] Sabula County but that's out of
[5:50:56] my again that's out of my hands
[5:50:56] that's probation
[5:51:00] as for your other question the
[5:51:02] order by a judge again I don't
[5:51:04] know who the judge is I don't
[5:51:04] yeah I don't do
[5:51:08] I I I know where I stand and I
[5:51:09] know I don't I don't try to
[5:51:10] cross those boundaries as well
[5:51:12] so I know where my jurisdiction
[5:51:15] lies and it's not on the
[5:51:17] reservation right now even
[5:51:18] though I live on the reservation
[5:51:22] so but with that being said
[5:51:24] and then your question regarding
[5:51:25] the pamphlet indicating
[5:51:27] McKinley County residents that's
[5:51:30] a typogain it's anyone who
[5:51:32] receives an infraction within
[5:51:33] McKinney County because we have
[5:51:34] individuals from arizona I
[5:51:36] think we have one
[5:51:39] that comes in from Arizona fort
[5:51:41] defiance to take part in our
[5:51:43] program. It's a 40 mile radius
[5:51:46] is what we're again who we
[5:51:49] try to get into our program
[5:51:50] because everyone outside the
[5:51:52] outskirts of40 miles we're
[5:51:54] setting them up for failure
[5:51:56] because we know transportation
[5:51:58] is an issue here in McKinley
[5:51:59] County because again the poverty
[5:52:02] rate again we we take that into
[5:52:04] consideration as well so we try
[5:52:05] to only take individuals who we
[5:52:06] think can
[5:52:09] complete the program and be s
[5:52:11] successful although we want to
[5:52:14] reach everybody out there it's
[5:52:14] kind of we don't want to set
[5:52:16] them up for failure where
[5:52:17] there's a lot of things we take
[5:52:18] into consideration in
[5:52:18] transportation is one of them
[5:52:22] and again there are other
[5:52:24] factors we also take into
[5:52:25] consideration they can't be they
[5:52:27] can't have violent offenses as
[5:52:29] well they can't have a felony
[5:52:31] and again we only address 2nd
[5:52:34] and 3rd offense DWIs so again
[5:52:34] thank you for that question
[5:52:35] madam Garcia.
[5:52:40] madam chairir thank you too
[5:52:42] for that answer we are about
[5:52:42] oh
[5:52:45] to the chapter it's about 60
[5:52:48] miles so I think we're outside
[5:52:53] of that 60 or40 mile but
[5:52:54] transportation would be an issue
[5:52:54] for her
[5:52:57] she was wonderering the streets
[5:53:00] over here and got caught for DWi
[5:53:03] and that that was the reason why
[5:53:05] she said that she had to get
[5:53:07] on probation with I don't know
[5:53:09] which court it was I didn't get
[5:53:10] all that information
[5:53:13] so all I did was write the
[5:53:15] letter to the probation officer.
[5:53:16] OK, thank you.
[5:53:18] thank youpresentative
[5:53:18] Representative Johnson.
[5:53:22] thank you madam chair
[5:53:27] my question is, I guess it would
[5:53:28] be depending
[5:53:32] participants or a number of
[5:53:35] workload, but what is the wait
[5:53:36] time or the service timeline
[5:53:39] for an individual to have
[5:53:43] outpatient treatment or
[5:53:44] treatment
[5:53:47] DWI
[5:53:54] After littleBI once they oh
[5:53:56] sorry madam chair or
[5:53:58] madampresentative Johnson thank
[5:54:00] you for that question the
[5:54:01] timeline again once we
[5:54:05] if they want to be a part of the
[5:54:06] DWI treatment program and
[5:54:08] referred to the because a lot of
[5:54:09] people want to avoid the
[5:54:11] thirtyday jail sentence or the40
[5:54:13] mandatory jail term so they want
[5:54:15] to stay out of jail they'll
[5:54:17] request a see if they can
[5:54:18] they're eligible for our our
[5:54:19] treatment program
[5:54:22] so what we do is right when
[5:54:24] we're about to sentence an
[5:54:25] individual or what when I'm
[5:54:27] about to sentence an individual
[5:54:30] I send them to Danielle she
[5:54:31] again assesses them she keeps
[5:54:32] completes their assessment
[5:54:34] oncece she knows that if there
[5:54:35] again once we know that they're
[5:54:38] eligible then I'll sentence them
[5:54:40] to the program and from there
[5:54:41] Danielle does the legwork and
[5:54:42] she'll tell you what she does
[5:54:43] after that go ahead Danielle
[5:54:46] thank you judgedge Ezzie so
[5:54:46] as Judge aszzie said
[5:54:51] they'll she'll contact me to
[5:54:52] do a what's called a screening
[5:54:55] I think with our current
[5:54:57] participants the majority of
[5:54:59] them were either there in person
[5:55:01] where it was convenient for me
[5:55:02] to just step out of my office
[5:55:04] and I screen them right, you
[5:55:05] know right then and there.
[5:55:07] and I was able to report back to
[5:55:09] the court immediately whether
[5:55:12] they were eligible or not. we
[5:55:14] use what is called the DY rant
[5:55:18] and I'm sorry I wish I wish I
[5:55:18] could tell you what those what
[5:55:20] those acronyms are for but the
[5:55:21] the screener is called the
[5:55:25] DUI rant and it gauges the level
[5:55:29] of risk as well as the need
[5:55:30] for treatment so what we call
[5:55:32] highris high need. Highri
[5:55:34] meaning they are at a high risk
[5:55:36] of reoffending. high need
[5:55:37] meaning that they have a
[5:55:39] moderate to severe substance use
[5:55:41] issue. Substance also including
[5:55:44] alcohol so as judge said I
[5:55:44] will screen them once they
[5:55:45] qualify I
[5:55:48] let the courts know and she
[5:55:50] proceeds with sentencing after
[5:55:51] they are sentenced, they come
[5:55:53] and see me immediately at
[5:55:55] which time I scheduled their
[5:55:57] induction into the program and
[5:55:59] they are also sent to our
[5:56:00] treatment
[5:56:03] treatment agency which was Santa
[5:56:04] Ferecovery at the time so they
[5:56:06] would be sent to Santa Fe
[5:56:08] recovery to schedule an intake
[5:56:10] with their treatment providers
[5:56:11] get all of their screenings and
[5:56:13] assessments done and it is
[5:56:14] within our contract with our
[5:56:16] treatment providers that are
[5:56:19] participants be expedited
[5:56:21] that their services be expedited
[5:56:23] so it is within the contract
[5:56:24] that from the date of referral
[5:56:27] with the treatment providers
[5:56:29] they have5 business days to get
[5:56:30] them assessed and get
[5:56:33] them into treatment so to answer
[5:56:34] your question it would be
[5:56:36] roughly a five business day
[5:56:38] wait. OK after induction. not
[5:56:39] after sentencing but after
[5:56:41] induction. yeah usually you know
[5:56:42] after sentencing but if you you
[5:56:44] count the weekends and whatnot.
[5:56:46] so we get them in right away
[5:56:46] and
[5:56:50] and the so we get them in
[5:56:51] with the treatment providers
[5:56:53] right away. they more than
[5:56:55] likely are also placed on an
[5:56:57] alcohol monitoring device so
[5:56:59] just to we we start that
[5:57:01] sobriety the day of you know so
[5:57:03] really encouraging but we
[5:57:04] also know that you know it's
[5:57:05] it's difficult. not all of our
[5:57:07] participants come in with
[5:57:09] complete sobriety. some of them
[5:57:11] have stopped drinking after the
[5:57:13] incident after their arrest and
[5:57:14] just waiting to go to
[5:57:16] sentencing it is part of their
[5:57:16] conditions of release as well to
[5:57:17] not
[5:57:19] to abstain from alcohol. So
[5:57:21] some of them do come in with
[5:57:22] some sobriety. and there's
[5:57:24] also others that come in and
[5:57:26] it's day one of sobriety for
[5:57:28] them so we are we're working
[5:57:30] from you know from the bottom
[5:57:32] and working up and just
[5:57:34] encouraging them to to maintain
[5:57:35] that sobriety for the first
[5:57:36] couple of days for the first
[5:57:37] couple of weeks you know and
[5:57:39] then so forth but yes it it's a
[5:57:40] very short wait for our
[5:57:41] treatment intake.
[5:57:51] the five days who said that
[5:57:58] to say this is you got to do
[5:58:00] this within5 days it's on the
[5:58:02] within the contract yeah within
[5:58:04] our contract they have to get
[5:58:06] into treatment and then from
[5:58:07] there yes just as as again
[5:58:08] Mleaketty mentioned it's
[5:58:10] difficult some some of them is
[5:58:11] day one but with the scram
[5:58:13] bracelet we continue to monitor
[5:58:15] them and we know return to use
[5:58:18] is gonna be again it's gonna be
[5:58:21] a continued issue until they
[5:58:23] have to be in sobriety for 90
[5:58:24] days for them to face to the
[5:58:25] next phase so if they
[5:58:28] continue to use again I have
[5:58:29] again just like I said the
[5:58:30] gentleman I've had two gentlemen
[5:58:30] who again
[5:58:35] continue to use weekly weekly
[5:58:37] and again we kept addressing
[5:58:39] them addressing them finally I
[5:58:40] don't know I don't know if they
[5:58:43] had an epiphany but again they
[5:58:45] came back on the right track
[5:58:46] again and we have another
[5:58:47] individual who's like Mr
[5:58:50] Castillo who was fighting the
[5:58:52] court constantly intoxicated
[5:58:53] coming to court and we tell them
[5:58:54] no you need to leave that's a
[5:58:56] trigger for our participants we
[5:58:59] cannot have you here so we
[5:59:00] again make him leave our session
[5:59:04] but we bring him back to address
[5:59:06] him tell him this is not going
[5:59:08] to be a continued issue. We
[5:59:10] increase his treatment again we
[5:59:11] sent him back for a reassessment
[5:59:13] what is going on what trauma,
[5:59:15] what is why are you continuing
[5:59:16] to reuse return to use so
[5:59:21] we finally got it situated. He's
[5:59:23] on the right track. he's going
[5:59:24] back to school
[5:59:25] and he knows what
[5:59:31] So the device what did you call
[5:59:32] it a scram bracelet scram
[5:59:34] bracelet? It detects alcohol
[5:59:34] through their skin
[5:59:36] yeah
[5:59:37] how much does that cost
[5:59:43] for a device that is in the it's
[5:59:46] in the for a device maybe it's
[5:59:49] pretty expensive it's about it
[5:59:51] depends on how many we have
[5:59:54] monitored but I I would like
[5:59:56] to say ballpark anywhere
[5:59:59] from1000 to1,500 you know per
[6:00:01] month. So I am exploring other
[6:00:02] options we've been to some
[6:00:04] conferences recently where they
[6:00:06] are actually that technology is
[6:00:08] advancing as well we have
[6:00:09] well some companies have
[6:00:12] GPS trackers and alcohol
[6:00:14] monitors that are about the size
[6:00:16] of the Apple watches or like the
[6:00:18] android watches so very much
[6:00:20] more convenient rather than a
[6:00:22] big device probably as as big as
[6:00:24] my phone you know strapped to
[6:00:26] your leg so the scram bracelet
[6:00:28] it as judge said it detects
[6:00:31] alcohol by taking a sample of
[6:00:32] your pores from the sweat from
[6:00:34] your pores so there's a screen
[6:00:35] on the device that has to stay
[6:00:37] in close contact with the skin
[6:00:38] and then we also have to be
[6:00:39] mindful and tell our
[6:00:40] participants
[6:00:42] don't be using any products
[6:00:44] that contain alcohol and that
[6:00:46] could be cologne and body spray.
[6:00:49] so they start to learn you know
[6:00:51] all the different stuff that we
[6:00:52] use everyday that contains
[6:00:54] alcohol and it's a it's a it's
[6:00:56] an eye opener but to answer your
[6:00:58] other question as far as that
[6:00:59] requirement of the five days, I
[6:01:00] believe that comes from the New
[6:01:01] Mexicoreatment court standards.
[6:01:13] making them wait I again I do
[6:01:16] want to mention we do we did
[6:01:17] have a delay for one of our
[6:01:18] veterans again we had two
[6:01:22] veterans one graduated again he
[6:01:23] successfully working again
[6:01:25] but we have one veteran again
[6:01:26] who who does have PTI
[6:01:32] again working with him was a
[6:01:36] challenge but again we also
[6:01:39] kept them in the program we he's
[6:01:41] actually being successful right
[6:01:42] now and he's being compliant
[6:01:45] from the beginning he was again
[6:01:47] returning to use and we sent him
[6:01:49] to treatment we held them in
[6:01:51] custody and we're waiting for
[6:01:53] veterans to get back to us the
[6:01:56] veterans program the VSo via the
[6:01:56] BA
[6:02:01] Danielle can share that with
[6:02:02] you but again I would yeah it
[6:02:04] would his his case was time
[6:02:06] consuming only because we were
[6:02:07] waiting for
[6:02:11] the VO to get him into get
[6:02:14] screened and find out if he can
[6:02:15] take part in that treatment that
[6:02:17] was the issue that we were
[6:02:20] having so since then we've kind
[6:02:22] of shied away from that and
[6:02:24] we're kind of just utilizing our
[6:02:25] own treatment provider but we
[6:02:26] were trying to do what was best
[6:02:27] for him
[6:02:29] again and trying to send him
[6:02:31] send him back to the VA to get
[6:02:33] that treatment so he stays
[6:02:34] within the program and they
[6:02:36] report to us but again I'll let
[6:02:38] Danielle share that that that
[6:02:39] information with you
[6:02:42] thank you Judgeyzzie. Yes, so we
[6:02:45] do have as Joelzy said we've
[6:02:47] had two veteran participants one
[6:02:49] previously and one current.
[6:02:50] this current veteran I've worked
[6:02:53] with since compliance and again
[6:02:54] he kind of followed me over so
[6:02:57] I've seen him make tremendous
[6:02:59] progress from an individual that
[6:03:02] was very reserved very you
[6:03:05] know not easily trusting of
[6:03:06] everybody which is completely
[6:03:08] understandable but very very
[6:03:08] respectful, very very compliant.
[6:03:11] this individual does have a lot
[6:03:14] of trauma. we did get in
[6:03:16] contact with veterans justice
[6:03:18] outreach which is the VJO they
[6:03:20] are the outreach component of
[6:03:23] the veterans veteran system
[6:03:25] to help justice involved
[6:03:27] individuals. So making that
[6:03:29] connection with the VJO also
[6:03:30] opened up doors for compliance,
[6:03:32] the compliance program as well
[6:03:34] to know that these are resources
[6:03:36] available for their clients as
[6:03:37] well that are just on regular
[6:03:38] misdemeanor probation. so our
[6:03:39] partic
[6:03:42] ip ant did receive services
[6:03:44] after a while with the veterans
[6:03:46] with with the veterans clinic
[6:03:50] and was receiving individual
[6:03:51] services as well as group
[6:03:53] services however they were
[6:03:55] virtual and we didn't really
[6:03:56] feel that it was working
[6:03:58] virtually. so we were able to
[6:04:01] get him in with We song and
[6:04:02] their clinical supervisor is
[6:04:05] actually works with the
[6:04:07] eterans department. I'm not sure
[6:04:08] if he is a veteran himself. I I
[6:04:09] believe he is
[6:04:12] so that's that's helpful as
[6:04:14] well. He also works with the VA
[6:04:17] here in Gallup. so the VA is
[6:04:18] very tricky to work with. they
[6:04:20] will not talk to me. they will
[6:04:21] not contact mething is through
[6:04:23] the veteran so the veteran has
[6:04:25] to be very accountable if I need
[6:04:26] progress reports, I will have to
[6:04:28] ask the veteran will you
[6:04:30] contact your provider and get a
[6:04:31] letter of your updates or your
[6:04:33] status right now so he's he's
[6:04:34] very compliant so he'll be able
[6:04:38] to do that so this individual
[6:04:38] is receiving services at Winsong
[6:04:43] working with their veteran
[6:04:45] clinical supervisor and he is
[6:04:47] still also involved with the
[6:04:48] veterans clinic out in
[6:04:50] Albuquerque. He still meets with
[6:04:53] his provider there and then
[6:04:54] attends what's called a relapse
[6:04:56] prevention group weekly. So he
[6:04:57] keeps himself busy and
[6:05:00] we also keep in contact with the
[6:05:02] VA as well just you know making
[6:05:04] sure that everybody is all on
[6:05:06] the same page as far as his
[6:05:07] progress in any updates that we
[6:05:08] need.
[6:05:11] but that's that's our
[6:05:12] relationship working
[6:05:13] relationship with the veterans
[6:05:15] department as well and their
[6:05:16] veteran justice outreach
[6:05:21] but yes that that is and then
[6:05:22] just don't like I said opening
[6:05:23] up those doors what resources we
[6:05:25] can get from the VJO and from
[6:05:27] the veterans department. I
[6:05:28] also share with compliance and
[6:05:30] we've got a little what I call
[6:05:31] resource board up there in the
[6:05:33] courthouse that has
[6:05:34] information such as
[6:05:37] contact information for the
[6:05:40] VJO any kind of treatment
[6:05:42] services recovery support groups
[6:05:44] whatever kind of resources I
[6:05:46] can put up there for people that
[6:05:48] are post adjudication
[6:05:49] preadjudication whatever helps I
[6:05:51] put it up there. The more
[6:05:52] resources I can get out there
[6:05:52] the better.
[6:05:55] thank you and that with the
[6:05:56] benefits because we don't have
[6:06:05] No, there is no veterans court
[6:06:06] currently.
[6:06:09] so one of the things too I've
[6:06:11] been not combined need to
[6:06:12] explore is the
[6:06:21] but I think it seemed to be a
[6:06:24] lot more efficient as far as
[6:06:25] making sure there was not
[6:06:27] duplicate services and that you
[6:06:28] did not have to
[6:06:31] post it on your board but that
[6:06:34] you put a referral out and then
[6:06:36] whoever can meet the needs if
[6:06:37] it's something that needs to be
[6:06:39] immediate or something specific
[6:06:42] or if it's a veteran that it
[6:06:43] that's where it goes and they're
[6:06:46] able to with that those
[6:06:48] resources they're they're
[6:06:50] contracted with us and they we
[6:06:52] become the in some sense more
[6:06:53] accountable to doing what they
[6:06:54] need to do
[6:06:58] don't know how I'm gonna move
[6:07:00] that forwardda because it's we
[6:07:01] got a lot going on here in New
[6:07:02] Mexico
[6:07:05] and I think that's the only
[6:07:06] thing I think that's probably is
[6:07:07] that the only
[6:07:10] in a way barrier or something
[6:07:11] that needs to be worked on is
[6:07:12] with our veter
[6:07:22] we're sorry I believe I believe
[6:07:24] that was the only issue we had
[6:07:26] again was getting our vet our
[6:07:28] veteran into treatment again
[6:07:32] services from BBJO or VSO
[6:07:33] other than that again like I
[6:07:35] said it was frustrating from the
[6:07:36] beginning for him because again
[6:07:37] I didn't want to keep him in
[6:07:39] custody as well and we we kept
[6:07:41] them in there for almost an
[6:07:43] entire month just before he was
[6:07:44] able to obtain some type of
[6:07:45] service and before we were able
[6:07:46] to release him
[6:07:50] but in the end again he's
[6:07:51] doing very well and he's
[6:07:53] compliant like she said she he's
[6:07:54] very respectful and
[6:07:57] and of course the warden he
[6:07:58] really respects the warden
[6:08:00] because he's also a veteran as
[6:08:02] well so our warden again was our
[6:08:04] our program manager as well at
[6:08:07] one point for McKinley County so
[6:08:08] he knows the the the
[6:08:10] participants so he can again
[6:08:14] I guess encourage and mentor
[6:08:17] again the participant as well so
[6:08:18] it it's it's it's it's it was
[6:08:21] it worked out for the best
[6:08:22] because again the warden was
[6:08:23] able to speak with our
[6:08:26] participant and again that's how
[6:08:28] he was able to maintain again as
[6:08:32] well any traumas or any yeah
[6:08:32] whatever
[6:08:35] disorder he was going through
[6:08:36] and don't I don't know how to
[6:08:40] say it but yeah but yeah but in
[6:08:40] the end
[6:08:43] I don't believe we we don't we
[6:08:46] haven't stumbled upon any any
[6:08:48] barriers at this moment again of
[6:08:49] course just the same issues
[6:08:52] housing transportation for
[6:08:54] our participants other than that
[6:08:55] again just the same resources
[6:08:57] that everybody else is having to
[6:09:00] deal with where we're still
[6:09:02] hinders our program but in the
[6:09:04] end again I'm just thankful
[6:09:06] again our DA it's now all for
[6:09:06] treatment as well
[6:09:11] again so again he's sending
[6:09:14] again anyone who's again being
[6:09:16] arrested for possession a
[6:09:17] controlled substance into
[6:09:19] treatment again that's a again
[6:09:20] that's again beenn
[6:09:24] very successful at some again in
[6:09:25] some
[6:09:28] at some point but again at the
[6:09:29] same time you know that they
[6:09:30] don't want to go into treatment
[6:09:32] as well so it's it's kind of hit
[6:09:35] or miss but um'm umjo Burnetts
[6:09:38] and Mr Friedley again they've
[6:09:40] been sending a lot of their per
[6:09:42] our defendants into treatment as
[6:09:43] well for anyone who was
[6:09:46] charged with possession have any
[6:09:49] type of substance and any the
[6:09:50] diversion programs they're still
[6:09:52] trying to work on it too and I'm
[6:09:53] very grateful for that and I'm
[6:09:54] hoping we continue to move in
[6:09:54] that direction
[6:09:59] you're funding's good because I
[6:10:00] know we pump a lot of money into
[6:10:03] the IOc this past and trying to
[6:10:04] get de dedicated funding for
[6:10:08] thank you for the work you do
[6:10:09] but I do I think on a side
[6:10:19] treatment providers after the
[6:10:20] they they don't have to
[6:10:27] our treatment providers are are
[6:10:28] certified yes they're clinicians
[6:10:31] so our our like I said our
[6:10:33] clinical supervisor I believe is
[6:10:36] in LMSW I believe licensed
[6:10:37] mental social worker
[6:10:56] that deat sobriety was necessary
[6:10:57] as far as just
[6:11:03] to mentor in that sense then I
[6:11:04] also like to
[6:11:13] sentencing to programs like this
[6:11:14] I think that's a very
[6:11:15] different kind of as far as
[6:11:25] indigenous people but thank you
[6:11:26] thank you for the work you
[6:11:29] Welcome aboard and
[6:11:34] and learned a lot is what I
[6:11:35] understand and hopefully expand
[6:11:36] it
[6:11:42] we are looking into expanding
[6:11:44] again we're looking at again
[6:11:45] just as she mentioned the
[6:11:47] holistic approach to healing to
[6:11:49] wellness portion of it because
[6:11:51] again apparently we don't we're
[6:11:53] no longer a DWI program we're
[6:11:54] now going to be transitioning to
[6:11:56] healing and wellness so again
[6:11:59] working with Ken and joanener
[6:12:01] again utilizing the culture and
[6:12:03] the traditions for the native
[6:12:05] Americans who again want to find
[6:12:06] their way back to our culture
[6:12:08] again is positive so
[6:12:11] but that being said thank you
[6:12:13] again madam chair committee
[6:12:14] members and and leadership thank
[6:12:17] you for inviting us thank you
[6:12:18] for honoring us judge and thank
[6:12:20] you for your work and I just
[6:12:21] want to mention again that
[6:12:22] lunch was provided by
[6:12:25] Johnson and Twin Lake's chapter
[6:12:33] morning and also to the chamber
[6:12:35] for donutts so and thank you for
[6:12:37] hosting us thank you for some of
[6:12:39] you guys in the audience joining
[6:12:41] us all day and our community
[6:12:42] here in Gallup
[6:12:48] where we are but in a good way
[6:12:51] so yeah we will only go into
[6:12:54] recessor we are due to be in
[6:12:56] Akima at10 a.m. so
[6:12:58] the let's see
[6:13:01] skycity
[6:13:08] so that is next to skycity down
[6:13:09] below right yeah
[6:13:18] No it's not that's why I'm
[6:13:20] saying you yeah it's not at the
[6:13:20] hotel yeah
[6:13:26] so we will make our way that
[6:13:27] day I think some of you are
[6:13:28] staying at the hotel be very
[6:13:29] careful and I don't think
[6:13:31] there's constructions' going
[6:13:32] eastbound I think most of that's
[6:13:34] all coming westbound and as soon
[6:13:35] as the highways then you'd
[6:13:36] probably be real happy
[6:13:40] thank you again thank you to the
[6:13:41] chamber