[0:00] morning at
[0:00] a
[0:01] welcome we are going to start
[0:04] the Indian affairs committeetee
[0:06] as a subcommittee as we wait
[0:09] for quorum and we'll start with
[0:11] introductions. Right now the the
[0:13] agenda for today we are here
[0:15] today in the Gallup McKinley
[0:18] County Chamber ofcomrace due to
[0:18] go to Skycity ultural Center
[0:20] tomorrow and on Wednesday to the
[0:23] pueblo of Laguna so we're we're
[0:26] moving through here so we have a
[0:29] threeday meeting this week
[0:31] and we are going to do
[0:34] introductions and we do believe
[0:36] our first presenter is here
[0:38] byhazla chapter and then the
[0:40] city and lunch will be on your
[0:42] own so far they'll be food there
[0:45] there will be food I don't know
[0:47] what
[0:48] but there will be food now
[0:49] that's what I'm told
[0:51] oh thank you thank you
[0:53] representative and we were
[0:55] supposed to be in twin Lakes
[0:56] chapter but due to some of the
[0:59] outcome and stuff of the weather
[1:01] mother nature has brought us
[1:04] over here but I hope everybody
[1:05] had safe travels here and great
[1:07] accommodations and we will
[1:10] move forward so we will move
[1:12] forward with introductions first
[1:15] we will start with our those in
[1:17] the audience
[1:17] from
[1:18] this side to that side and
[1:22] then we'll go for it yes yeah no
[1:24] please use the mic up here we'll
[1:26] just push that button you can
[1:28] just leave it on too because we
[1:29] are webcasting so we try to have
[1:31] one mic at a time Hello good
[1:33] morning.
[1:34] good morning madam chair members
[1:35] of the committee, staff. my
[1:37] name is Bill Lee representing
[1:39] KJg strategies lobbying for a
[1:43] number of clients throughout New
[1:45] Mexico thank you madam chair
[1:55] good morning eachach and all of
[1:57] you my name is Eloise
[2:00] Johnson. I'm the chapter
[2:01] president of Twin Lakes
[2:02] chapter and I'm sorry we did not
[2:05] accommodate all of you but
[2:07] there was reasons and like
[2:09] they said Mo Nature but I'm glad
[2:12] to be here and welcome to each
[2:14] and all of you
[2:17] good morning madam chairir and
[2:18] committee. my name is hoda
[2:20] Edekai. I am with neighborigh
[2:22] I'm the indigenousnery
[2:22] organizer.
[2:25] good morning madam chairir.
[2:27] committeetee deborah Martinez
[2:28] city ofgallup.
[2:33] rose tom
[2:37] Good morning honorable
[2:40] legislatures my name is Joan
[2:40] Nance. I'm the vice president
[2:43] for Basla Twin Lakes chapter.
[2:45] thank you
[2:49] good morning welcome to gallup
[2:52] all of you doritzinnali Tohachi
[2:55] thank you
[3:00] Good morning
[3:01] Thompson Johnson from Twin
[3:02] Lakes
[3:16] that good we have we're gonna
[3:17] start over here withpresentative
[3:18] Block and we'll go around the
[3:20] way. Thank youpresentative. Oh,
[3:22] you want to start?
[3:22] Ohpresentative
[3:22] Le here
[3:27] good morning madam chairir umm
[3:30] anita Mejia from Chavez
[3:31] Countylad to be here
[3:34] good morning madam Chair John
[3:36] Block, Statepresentative House
[3:38] disstrict51 Otero County. I
[3:38] represent Allamogordo. thank you
[3:40] for having us.
[3:43] Madam Chair members Rex Wilson
[3:45] Senate District33 Chaviz
[3:49] Lincoln and Ontero counties it's
[3:49] good to be back in this part of
[3:51] the world. Thank you.
[3:55] good morning madam chair and
[3:56] good morning everyone. I'm
[3:58] Representative Patty Lundstrom
[3:59] and let me let me welcome you
[4:02] to House disstrict 9, this area
[4:05] is in my house district and I
[4:06] want to particularly welcome the
[4:09] folks from Twin Lakes. I used to
[4:11] represent you guys for about 20
[4:13] years
[4:14] and glad that you're here and
[4:16] glad that Bill's here also and
[4:19] look forward to a very good
[4:20] meeting today. thank you madam
[4:21] chairir.
[4:29] it's a bennett good morning
[4:29] madam chair and committee
[4:30] members and our staff. My name
[4:33] is Representative Micchelee
[4:35] Paulinabbeda. I'm coming to you
[4:36] from Trojele and I represent
[4:37] House disstrict 69 which covers
[4:39] six counties yeah
[4:46] yet a benne shea martha garcia
[4:49] yinia I represent a district
[4:50] 6 which coversieable County and
[4:52] McKinley County
[4:56] a represent ine chapters zunni
[5:00] grantsluewater Milan area and
[5:01] everything in between so that's
[5:03] where I MBR representative and
[5:05] welcome to everyone madam Chair,
[5:08] thank you
[5:10] Good morning madam chair members
[5:12] of the committee, those in the
[5:13] audience and those viewing my
[5:15] name is Patricia
[5:17] roybalcaballero. I represent
[5:17] house district thir which is the
[5:19] far southwest quadrant of
[5:21] Albuquerque and I'm happy to be
[5:23] here on this committee since my
[5:25] first term. thank you very much
[5:27] madam chairir.
[5:31] morning everyone I'm here to
[5:33] introduce staff. I'm Niccole
[5:35] Waisback from the Legislative
[5:36] coerce. We also have David here
[5:38] running our IT and we have
[5:39] Sheila and Paul assisting as
[5:41] well. thanks.
[5:45] thank you madam chair and good
[5:48] morning colleagues and staff and
[5:51] guests welcome to gallup
[5:55] I'm so glad that we're able
[5:57] to have this meeting here. I
[5:59] represent House disstrictive
[6:01] which entails East Gallup and1f
[6:03] Navajo chapters and now Twin
[6:06] Lakes is one of my chapters so
[6:09] Coming here and I was the one
[6:13] who recommended Twin Lakes
[6:14] chapter and we'll just do it
[6:17] again next time.
[6:18] so with that I just want to say
[6:20] good morning and thank you
[6:22] thank you madam vice chair and
[6:24] thank you for joining us and
[6:25] thank you to the chamber of
[6:26] commerce for accommodating us at
[6:28] the last minute and I think this
[6:30] room has changed the last time I
[6:32] was here
[6:34] we'd me here with the code
[6:36] talkers with the meeting so it
[6:38] is different but many things
[6:41] have happened this week within
[6:42] the area and I hope that is all
[6:45] in some way alleviated but I do
[6:47] believe we will see Mother
[6:48] Nature again in a couple more
[6:50] days to give us some
[6:53] some much needed moisture in
[6:54] some sense.
[6:56] but
[6:58] Shannon Pinilion and she had
[6:59] Keanni Nishchelakisluchini
[7:01] bush's china detechi nida
[7:01] chanella
[7:03] the I mean that's cha
[7:05] Filippino dechaele and I know
[7:07] some of my members here
[7:09] within the audience in which as
[7:12] well with your children we all
[7:15] grew up together so it's very
[7:17] good to to be back here and
[7:19] which we were out at twin Lakes
[7:21] but would you like to come
[7:23] forward? We do have item ones
[7:25] welcome an update from Bajala
[7:27] chapter and then we will go to
[7:29] the update from the city of
[7:30] Gallup and the future of
[7:32] community economic
[7:33] sovereignty so the light will
[7:38] turn green may have a seat and I
[7:40] don't know if anybody else is
[7:41] going to join you up here.
[7:43] actually let's take a moment
[7:44] here ma'am would you like to
[7:47] welcome us to let's give a
[7:51] minute here to our mayor of
[7:53] Gallup
[7:54] yes come on up and take a
[7:56] minute here with the microphone
[7:58] so we can and then we'll
[8:00] begin our first presentation
[8:02] here but
[8:03] but good morning
[8:07] the the thing to turn on
[8:09] thank you
[8:11] thanks for coming to Gallup.
[8:13] you're always welcome
[8:14] you know first I want to express
[8:15] my condolences for the family in
[8:19] newcomb you know with three
[8:19] people killed in a flash flood
[8:22] you know the floods are real and
[8:23] we're telling everybody be
[8:24] careful and unfortunately for
[8:27] ourR it's not the first time you
[8:28] know we've had a lot of people
[8:29] get swept away by floods
[8:32] there are nondiscriminatory
[8:34] don't enter the royals so we're
[8:36] trying to get that message
[8:37] across
[8:38] but anyway you know thanks
[8:40] for coming toallup are always
[8:40] good to have you it's always
[8:41] good to have you you know our
[8:43] we're working with what's that
[8:46] oh my name is Marc Dipali mayor
[8:49] of Gallup sorry about that
[8:52] I you know what our city
[8:54] manager's are going to be here
[8:55] in a little bit. He's gonna kind
[8:56] of express some of the things
[8:57] we're working on trying to get
[8:59] ahead of with thenavo nation
[9:03] you know we have a a population
[9:06] in Gallllup that is showing up
[9:08] here that we don't know if
[9:11] it's coming in from other from
[9:13] treatment centers or how they're
[9:15] how the people are showing up
[9:16] and they're not just nes
[9:17] necessarily native but we
[9:19] want to work with the Navo
[9:21] nation we we had incidents some
[9:23] incidents happen where people
[9:24] have been dropped off inallup
[9:27] and we've talked to him and
[9:29] mostly young girls and we hear
[9:30] what we hear is that
[9:34] they're their friend dropped
[9:35] them off and left him you know
[9:37] and it's very concerning you
[9:38] know trafficking is our biggest
[9:40] thing. one of my biggest things
[9:41] to continue and can continue to
[9:44] address you know and we need to
[9:45] make sure that we keep don't let
[9:47] it out out of our view and keep
[9:50] pushing the trafficking and
[9:51] making sure that we provide a
[9:52] safe place for people to go we
[9:55] want to we want to try to make
[9:56] something safe where if somebody
[9:58] is here maybe against their will
[10:01] or some got dropped off you know
[10:03] and as soon as you hear dropped
[10:04] off that's that's scary you know
[10:08] and we wanted that's one
[10:10] of the things we're working on
[10:11] is try to get him a safe get
[10:12] people a safe place where they
[10:13] know they're safe and they can
[10:14] go. having worked in Mexico30
[10:17] years ago I kind of have a
[10:18] little bit of experience with
[10:20] what what happens with when you
[10:22] have people who are trafficked
[10:23] and some of the people aren't
[10:25] necessarily native they are
[10:26] they're people from all over the
[10:27] place that come in they come
[10:28] throughallup.
[10:30] Anyway with that I did you know
[10:32] I don't want to be a bummer or a
[10:33] downer but I wanna to make let
[10:34] everybody know that we are
[10:35] working with our missing
[10:37] murdered indigenous and
[10:38] throughout the state with the
[10:40] other law enforcement to make
[10:41] sure that we can move ahead with
[10:43] this
[10:44] of course we'll work with
[10:45] working close with the tribe too
[10:48] anyway with that you know we
[10:50] have we have big plans for
[10:52] Gallup you know we we're working
[10:54] on some economic development
[10:56] with Patty Lindstrom you know
[10:58] and of course my niece
[11:01] Micchelle she's here. Pauline
[11:03] you know and you know
[11:06] working on some big projects
[11:07] we want to make sure thatallup
[11:08] has a place for our youth to go
[11:12] you know one of the things
[11:13] that's happening and I have
[11:15] friends you know I grew up in
[11:16] Gallup of course native
[11:17] friends and my friendRay
[11:19] Livingston he's a Livingston
[11:21] from Church rock
[11:23] and you know all of his kids
[11:25] and even him they all leave you
[11:27] know he comes back on the
[11:28] weekends for to work you know
[11:30] and and you know it's time we
[11:32] start providing opportunities
[11:33] and jobs here in Gallup for the
[11:35] local people you know so raises
[11:39] raise four kids one one's one's
[11:40] a nurse one works as an
[11:42] electrician another one's a
[11:43] mechanic or HBAc and the other
[11:46] one and the other girl I forget
[11:47] what she does but they're all
[11:48] they're either in New orleans
[11:51] they're work of course
[11:52] in the state working on other
[11:53] projects but we need to make
[11:55] sure we provide those
[11:56] opportunities here and we're
[11:57] working with of course with the
[12:01] the the uhnavajo nation or is is
[12:02] always our partner making
[12:04] sure that we have them on our
[12:06] side to provide these positions
[12:08] but then of course the next big
[12:10] step is the education we want to
[12:11] make sure that you and him and
[12:13] to you are available or well
[12:15] aware of what we're doing so
[12:17] that we can work with them
[12:18] hand in hand
[12:21] I recently got to go to
[12:22] barcelona Spain you know and
[12:24] I'm over there in Barcelona and
[12:26] people come up to me and start
[12:27] speaking French. they think I'm
[12:29] French. well no, I'm not French
[12:31] I'm Italian but anyway you
[12:34] know what what's interesting the
[12:36] idiotta that we went and visited
[12:37] is a test lab you know and I I'd
[12:39] been to jet propulsion
[12:41] laborboratory in California.
[12:42] a lot of similarities
[12:44] you know but they all work
[12:47] all these testing labs these
[12:48] high tech facilities work hand
[12:50] in hand with their universities
[12:52] to be able to fill the positions
[12:54] that they that they they know
[12:56] they're gonna need and they and
[12:57] they fill these positions so
[12:58] that they can provide an experts
[13:00] the the the high quality
[13:03] testing lab and testing facility
[13:07] so you know education of course
[13:09] then the court the next thing is
[13:10] recreation you know we want to
[13:13] we the gallup is we're looking
[13:14] at doing a pretty big expansion
[13:16] to our recreation. you know I
[13:17] hear when I go to the municipal
[13:18] league I hear from people that
[13:19] gallup has some of the best
[13:21] recreational facilities and we
[13:23] do you know and not only that we
[13:24] have cool weather so in the
[13:27] summertime it's nice to come to
[13:28] Gallup but of course you know as
[13:30] as Senator Pinto knows you know
[13:32] basketball is dear to gallup and
[13:34] so is you know the soccer is
[13:36] becoming one of the other things
[13:37] volleyball you know football
[13:39] and all the different sports but
[13:40] we have the opportunity here
[13:43] every weekend
[13:44] our our sports fields are filled
[13:46] because people come as far as
[13:47] Phoenix Yuma, Texas to go to
[13:50] play here inallup and we want to
[13:51] continue that the then
[13:54] another thing of course is
[13:55] housing you know one of the
[13:59] one of the deals that or one of
[13:59] the things that we will work on
[14:01] housing right now is incredibly
[14:02] expensive my family's been
[14:06] building houses in here probably
[14:07] for h00 years. you know my aro
[14:09] Caania was was my grandfather he
[14:11] was a stonemason he learned the
[14:14] stonemasonry from the Spanish so
[14:16] one of the reasons when I went
[14:16] back to Barcelona I wanted to
[14:18] see exactly what why
[14:19] everything's so common wall and
[14:21] sure enough you know I could see
[14:23] that see the resemblance between
[14:24] downtown Gallup and some of the
[14:26] buildings were in Barcelona but
[14:28] you know he he learned the
[14:30] stonemason trade from the S
[14:32] pan ish and at one time he had75
[14:34] stonemasons working for him. He
[14:35] built the church in Hau. he
[14:37] built the church in Tohatchie
[14:39] he built churches all over the
[14:40] diocese of gallup. we had75
[14:44] stonemasons and then most of
[14:44] them are either zuni or Navajo
[14:47] the Tracy's Keaazzzie all my
[14:48] all my friends that grew up with
[14:52] but housing is dear is
[14:53] something we really need to look
[14:55] into
[14:56] you know it's it's a hard it's
[14:56] hard to
[14:57] it's hard to proceed with
[15:01] housing when a simple1300 square
[15:09] foot houses almost $250,000 you
[15:09] know, I I don't know what how
[15:10] we're ever going to catch up but
[15:12] you know there are going to be
[15:13] you know it's one of the things
[15:14] we have to do is maybe there
[15:15] might be some federal federal or
[15:17] state assistance to do that but
[15:19] that's the next thing so
[15:20] recreation education housing and
[15:24] jobs
[15:25] and with that if there's any
[15:27] questions I'll be glad to answer
[15:29] them.
[15:29] or discuss things
[15:32] but
[15:33] they got I have some people that
[15:35] I'd like to talk to you with
[15:36] that I met last week or toward
[15:39] their facilities and all kinds
[15:41] of stuff with behavioral health
[15:43] soha yes it's gonna be very
[15:44] interesting very excited about
[15:45] it but thank you thank you mayor
[15:48] right well thanks for coming to
[15:50] Gallup and our city manager will
[15:51] be here later I don't know if
[15:52] you if you wanted to talk to him
[15:54] or if he has some things to say
[15:54] to you he'll be glad to.
[15:56] Did I make did I come late? Wa I
[15:57] supposed to be here at10
[15:57] or10:30?
[16:01] Oh good right on right on time
[16:05] then with that thank you I was
[16:06] just giving the opportunity to
[16:07] welcome thank you we'll talk
[16:09] we'll ask questions later and
[16:11] have a more deeper discussion
[16:13] that was more than a welcome
[16:14] that was a welcome in the whole
[16:16] summary that's what we're doing
[16:18] thank you ma'am and thank you
[16:20] and you may proceed to it
[16:24] good morning again everyone
[16:27] like I said my name is Eloise
[16:29] Johnson. I'm the chapter
[16:30] president of Twin Lakes chapter
[16:33] and I said welcome to
[16:35] everybody earlier but I want to
[16:37] welcome honorable leaders
[16:40] of New Mexico legislatures thank
[16:42] you for thinking of us and
[16:45] trying to have us host this
[16:47] meeting however
[16:50] you know due to unforeseen
[16:52] circumstances we have to you
[16:54] know we were without water there
[16:56] for a while we were without
[16:58] internet and electric and we had
[17:00] a lot of stranded relatives
[17:02] that we needed to house at the
[17:04] chapter anyway so we've been
[17:08] on emergency call 24/7 for
[17:12] our chapter to accommodate you
[17:13] know people that are stranded
[17:15] which very few but Mexican
[17:17] springs had most of them I
[17:19] think.
[17:19] the chapter there
[17:21] but anyhow so due to that we
[17:23] couldn't host you know this
[17:25] meeting but however you know
[17:28] down the road we like to still
[17:30] accommodate we had bought
[17:32] turkeys we have bought food and
[17:35] we were ready for this and all
[17:37] of a sudden you know things
[17:39] happen so now we have to hold
[17:41] the turkeys for the holidays
[17:44] but anyway thank you for each
[17:46] and all of you for being here
[17:47] and recognizing our chapter
[17:50] and even the state
[17:53] government county government and
[17:55] city of Gallup and we wanted
[17:59] to just say thank you you know
[18:00] for being our friends our
[18:02] neighbors and helping one
[18:04] another you know times like this
[18:07] and distinguished guests all
[18:09] of you that are here my
[18:11] relatives in Navajo you have a
[18:12] relative you know each and every
[18:15] one of us you know that's our
[18:16] heritage and we go by you know
[18:22] each everyone isla by clan so we
[18:24] never are without relatives so
[18:27] that's ournavajo way, OK? and
[18:31] it's like I said my apologies
[18:32] for not accommodating you all at
[18:35] the chapter
[18:38] and
[18:39] I just want to get to it and say
[18:41] you know that I'm very grateful
[18:43] and thankful that the
[18:44] legislatures that are in there
[18:46] right now and prior have really
[18:48] helped the chapter with projects
[18:51] and all of that and some are
[18:52] still pending
[18:54] and all of that but I just
[18:57] want to express my appreciation
[18:59] for acknowledging and helping us
[19:02] and some of the projects that
[19:04] are still pending they're
[19:07] being worked on right now and I
[19:10] represent the five chapters also
[19:12] in district14 which is
[19:15] Mexican spprings coyote
[19:21] Canyon Nashchitti Tohachi
[19:23] and our chapter so in district4
[19:23] we
[19:26] have ive chapters and on
[19:28] their behalf I want to say thank
[19:29] you to each and all of you for
[19:31] assisting us with funds when
[19:33] when it's available and all of
[19:36] that and some projects have been
[19:38] successfully done and one
[19:41] thing before anything as I
[19:43] wanted to say I hope you still
[19:45] support us with the the projects
[19:47] that are still pending like
[19:49] the highway491 lighting
[19:52] and if you guys were over at
[19:54] the chapter I was and go ahead
[19:56] and have you witness all the
[19:59] fast vehicles that are going
[20:00] through and we have an
[20:02] elementary school there is no
[20:04] slowdown signs there is no
[20:06] bus pullout nothing like that
[20:09] people are just passing through
[20:12] there so fast there is no bump,
[20:14] nothing to warn people that
[20:16] there's a school there or
[20:18] anything so please I would
[20:20] suggest that you guys
[20:21] look into that and see what we
[20:25] can do to eliminate or to slow
[20:26] down traffic through there
[20:29] and then another thing that that
[20:31] you know is on my mind while
[20:33] I'm here is that we do we
[20:36] did pay the money that you guys
[20:39] did give paid for the safety
[20:43] audit that took all the money
[20:45] that your you allocated so
[20:48] now it's just the construction
[20:49] that's all you know pending and
[20:53] they say that we need more
[20:55] money1.4 million to complete and
[20:58] we really
[20:58] request that and hopefully it
[21:01] can be done soon
[21:03] and then and then thank you
[21:05] so much for
[21:11] JohnsonRoad. it is now a major
[21:12] road in our community thank you
[21:15] Patty Lindstrum for pushing
[21:17] that through for us
[21:19] and now we get all of the coyote
[21:23] Kenyan transportation to people
[21:24] coming from Coyota Canyon go
[21:26] through that road people coming
[21:29] fromortlegai roadad go through
[21:29] that road so it's really it
[21:32] needs to be completed the
[21:35] construction was not completed
[21:38] 2.2 miles of it is still
[21:40] unfinished due to the fact that
[21:42] money ran short but I would
[21:45] really recommend that that being
[21:47] that it's a major road right
[21:49] now but it has a lot of potholes
[21:51] now you know due to you know
[21:53] people going through there a lot
[21:56] and it's one of the major roads
[21:58] and one of our bridges are ready
[21:59] to give out and there's two
[22:02] bridges on that road but anyway
[22:04] I wanted to highlight that
[22:06] for you guys and then thankfully
[22:08] the money that you all allocated
[22:11] for the demolition of the old
[22:12] chapter itss finally going to
[22:14] happen it's out for bid and all
[22:18] that and
[22:18] asbestos cleanup needs to happen
[22:20] and all that they say but it's
[22:23] going to happen soon and it's
[22:25] out for bid so with that you
[22:27] know wanted to let you all know
[22:30] that that's going to happen
[22:33] and then and it's sad that
[22:36] the community cemetery that's
[22:37] really needed in our area.
[22:40] that money was reburied you know
[22:45] just because you know we have
[22:46] no project managers at the
[22:49] Navajo Nation
[22:52] in their government where you
[22:55] know the planned the projects
[22:56] and things like that people are
[22:57] leaving leaving their jobs and
[23:00] it's just staff turnover that's
[23:02] really slowing down things in
[23:04] the winter rock and with our
[23:05] chapter so we're just sitting
[23:08] idly by just waiting you know
[23:10] for these projects to be
[23:11] completed so you know that's I
[23:14] just wanted you guys to all
[23:16] understand that so you know it's
[23:16] really win the rock
[23:20] you know money stops there and
[23:22] all of that and you all know
[23:23] that so we just need people to
[23:26] push all that money through so
[23:27] it can you know accommodate our
[23:30] community
[23:31] and then one thing I want to
[23:33] suggest to the mayor is that
[23:34] maybe a sports complex in Gallup
[23:36] is due because you know I think
[23:39] it brings a lot of revenue
[23:41] and money you know are our
[23:43] sports and Navajo kids are
[23:46] really into sports and they
[23:47] bring that activity here and
[23:49] gallup
[23:51] you know makes makes money off
[23:53] of our people and all that and I
[23:55] think a sports complexes do here
[23:58] in Gallup
[23:59] either that or on the
[24:01] reservation on the highway491.
[24:04] but anyway, these are some of
[24:06] the things I wanted to highlight
[24:07] and
[24:09] just think about all this for
[24:12] us honorable leaders and we
[24:14] really appreciate all that you
[24:16] do and that's what I I have
[24:19] to say and the vice president
[24:22] here from the chapter I think
[24:22] will
[24:25] you know add to that
[24:31] yeahe penna my native tongue
[24:36] behaje adoshee adonadanolini
[24:38] that means my leaders and native
[24:43] a hawa and thank you for
[24:45] allowing us to say a few words
[24:47] and I'm not going to take all
[24:49] the time she did she had it
[24:50] written down.ine is all from my
[24:52] head Twin Lakes chapter known as
[24:54] boss a chapters we have a
[24:58] headstart in our area we also
[24:59] have an elementary school
[25:02] that's a feeder school to
[25:03] Tohatchie High School within
[25:05] within our area we also have
[25:08] husa Community school that we
[25:10] have a representative from our
[25:11] area that goes there. We also
[25:14] have a veterans program
[25:16] that we work with
[25:19] and then we also have our next
[25:20] door neighbors seniorenter
[25:22] program
[25:23] that's very much under our
[25:25] umbrella and then we also have a
[25:28] community health representative
[25:30] ChR does not have a place to
[25:32] house herself so she's stuck in
[25:34] the corner at the chapter house
[25:37] that consists of all the
[25:39] functions the daily functions of
[25:41] our chapter house
[25:43] and we would have loved to show
[25:45] you and take you down some of
[25:47] these roads that men and
[25:49] majority of our people travel
[25:51] every single day and these roads
[25:54] are for school use hospital
[25:57] appointment just to go get food
[26:00] just daily survival
[26:02] and a lot of them are washed out
[26:04] at this around last week and
[26:07] this week mostly
[26:09] wo homes completely flooded and
[26:12] we're working diligently to
[26:14] replace those homes with
[26:15] whatever funds we can get our
[26:18] hands on
[26:19] and just to echo what my sister
[26:22] said were sisters by clan by the
[26:24] way I'm probably sisters and
[26:26] relatives of the leadership here
[26:29] we work with
[26:30] our local governments whether
[26:33] it be thenavajo nation the state
[26:36] government, the Mcinley County,
[26:39] the city
[26:40] we all work together and try to
[26:43] make things happen for our
[26:45] people we get call all hours of
[26:48] the night we get text messages.
[26:50] I am flooded what can you do is
[26:53] the chapter available and we
[26:55] have to go around and make the
[26:57] chapter accessible 24/7.
[27:00] and mind you we're missing one
[27:02] important employee at our local
[27:04] government letters the the area
[27:07] so that makes it even harder
[27:09] what they call a a a community
[27:11] service worker the position is
[27:14] vacant in our area.
[27:15] in our chapter
[27:17] so we have to rely on our local
[27:19] public employment program
[27:21] workers
[27:22] and that's just the gist of how
[27:24] we live our lives in twin lakes
[27:27] but I would not change it for
[27:29] anything else. I'm there to help
[27:31] my people wherever I can however
[27:33] I can and I really do appreciate
[27:36] you all listening to me a ha I
[27:38] appreciate you all and
[27:40] everything that you all do you
[27:42] know it takes a lot being in a
[27:44] position wearing all kinds of
[27:46] hats and I'm sure you'll all get
[27:48] told this too
[27:49] some good and some not so good
[27:51] but we managed to live all those
[27:54] moments
[27:55] thank you
[27:59] thank you I havepresentative
[28:02] Lindstrom. thank you madam
[28:03] Chair. I'd like to start by
[28:05] saying both Elouise and Joan are
[28:08] two of the hardestworking public
[28:09] servants I've ever met.
[28:11] I've worked with them for years
[28:14] Eloise obviously at the
[28:15] chapter level and Joan at the
[28:17] chapter level and the public
[28:18] schools
[28:19] I did want to ask you a question
[28:22] there's a concept being kicked
[28:24] around now that council
[28:25] delegates will determine where
[28:27] your capital outlay goes.
[28:29] that's in a nutshell what I've
[28:31] always said when they talked to
[28:33] me about it is I'm gonna put the
[28:34] money
[28:35] to the people that actually send
[28:37] me to Santa Fe and I'm still
[28:39] gonna do that regardless of what
[28:41] everybody else does.
[28:42] because I think you know your
[28:44] community's at a heart level you
[28:46] know exactly where those
[28:48] pressure points are
[28:50] when you talk about things
[28:52] like JohnsonRoad. we worked on
[28:54] that project for probably5 years
[28:56] or longer. All those road
[28:58] projects I was involved with the
[29:01] new chapter building and that
[29:03] was yours in the making
[29:05] and it worked out fine for us
[29:07] and we're the rubber hits the
[29:08] road for us is what happens in
[29:09] Wind orRock.
[29:11] we don't have any control over
[29:13] that
[29:14] but what I wanted to ask is that
[29:16] there is a
[29:17] a group that's called the New
[29:20] Mexico delegation they're made
[29:22] up of different council
[29:23] delegates they're supposed to
[29:25] meet with us on a regular basis
[29:27] and they meet with us and tell
[29:29] us what the needs of the of the
[29:31] tribe is you know in general
[29:34] and
[29:35] what I've always found
[29:36] interesting is that they've
[29:39] never brought up this thing
[29:40] about cemeteries now the
[29:42] cemetery issue is a regulation
[29:44] that's changed across the entire
[29:46] Navajo nation
[29:47] so why on earth money would
[29:49] revert especially knowing that
[29:52] I'm the one who put that in
[29:53] there bugs me. it bugs me
[29:55] because those regulations came
[29:57] out of wenderock for the
[29:59] chapters to follow. It would
[30:01] make sense to me that this New
[30:03] Mexico delegation of council
[30:06] delegates would come together
[30:08] ask for one appropriation for
[30:11] all the chapters that are
[30:12] looking at upgrading your
[30:13] cemeteries
[30:15] for improvements for cemeteries
[30:16] across New Mexico chapters and
[30:19] we put that in as one capital
[30:20] request.
[30:22] but that's not how it happens
[30:24] So I I don't know if you guys go
[30:26] to those meetings or can talk
[30:29] to your delegates about that
[30:31] but I think we need one request
[30:33] so we can help all of them. I've
[30:37] had3 or4 now different chapters
[30:38] that have asked for cemetery
[30:40] improvement money and and I know
[30:42] you need it because the
[30:43] regulations have changed and
[30:45] there's no money that comes with
[30:46] that regulatory change
[30:48] so I would strongly suggest that
[30:53] maybe this committee can just
[30:54] work on that anyway
[30:56] but I don't want to jump the gun
[30:58] if the chapters have changed
[30:59] their priorities but I I know
[31:01] cemeteries are a big deal and
[31:03] I've had I've got at least4 now
[31:05] that want to see upgrade
[31:08] but I wanna cre appreciate you
[31:10] too and thank you for coming
[31:11] out. thanks for being partners
[31:13] in the trenches when it matters
[31:15] the most and anything I can do
[31:17] just ask me
[31:25] p re s ent ative Johnson
[31:26] thank you madam chairir,
[31:28] colleagues and thank you
[31:28] Shannahata
[31:32] Shade from Twin Lakes and
[31:35] then the rest of the Twin Lakes
[31:36] community and neighbors from
[31:38] Tohatchie along491.
[31:44] hi ft to on heates adobesoshi
[31:47] jali so we'll go ahead and have
[31:48] a meeting after this sometime in
[31:51] the next two weeks and going
[31:53] further and we'll talk about
[31:54] chapter community needs. so with
[31:57] that I just want to thank you
[31:59] for your hard work and
[32:02] you
[32:09] committee members you know thank
[32:10] you so
[32:11] does Twin Lakes have a cemetery
[32:15] established
[32:17] ok so there's no land withdrawal
[32:19] that's been done. Yes or where
[32:21] where's your where's your
[32:23] proposed site yes there is
[32:26] the eclipsy members they're
[32:28] working on the you know
[32:32] acquiring that first
[32:34] we're going to start with the
[32:35] four acres you know right now we
[32:38] had it set for11 acres and we
[32:42] did get a land withdrawal done.
[32:44] it's going through right now and
[32:46] we have
[32:46] permission from the
[32:48] landowner to build
[32:51] cemetery there and it's on route
[32:55] 9 going towards Coyote Canyon
[32:57] that that road it's how
[33:00] many miles down three miles down
[33:03] I think on your right side
[33:08] and we're talking about11
[33:11] acres you know but then we were
[33:14] seeing you know we should
[33:16] just we should just do4 from
[33:19] the beginning you know and then
[33:20] add to it
[33:22] but it's all being done by
[33:25] the clubc members and they're
[33:25] meeting tomorrow.
[33:29] iss it tomorrow you guys are
[33:32] meeting oh no oh the following
[33:33] week'm sorry go ahead
[33:34] let me add to that I have the
[33:36] packet I I have the packet
[33:38] that's ready to be submitted.
[33:40] However, we still need our
[33:42] grazing official signature on
[33:44] some of the forms that needs to
[33:46] and then we'll finalize it and
[33:48] then it'll go to C pmD I
[33:50] understand and I'm trying to
[33:52] help and run with it with what
[33:54] we do have
[33:56] it was like she said through
[33:58] four acres it's been reverted
[33:59] back to11.5.
[34:02] it's reverted back to11.5 and
[34:05] we're asking for access to the
[34:08] area and it's right along the
[34:10] line that gas line but it's
[34:14] not right in the area it's
[34:16] beside the area so we're going
[34:18] to have to ask for permission
[34:19] from the company there just
[34:22] little minor steps that we're
[34:23] still working on
[34:25] otherwise
[34:27] yeah yeah we're gonna be outside
[34:29] it and the lady that is
[34:34] president for lupsy. she knows
[34:35] what she's doing
[34:36] that's her job and she's got a
[34:38] lot of experience with that so
[34:40] she's leading us through and
[34:42] I have the packet with me and I
[34:45] just as soon as I get the
[34:46] signatures from the young man
[34:47] we're on our way
[34:50] thank you and it's it's kind of
[34:52] just letting our members know
[34:54] too what we what our challenges
[34:56] are within the chapter because
[34:57] not every chapter has a cemetery
[35:01] ours actually in hatchie's maxed
[35:03] out and they did extend it but
[35:05] with the upgrades to the burial
[35:08] procedure it has to be fenced
[35:11] and it has to have public access
[35:13] is part of it so they didn't
[35:17] say actually criteria for what
[35:19] public access is I don't know
[35:22] as far as grading the road
[35:23] because I if that
[35:25] because I know there are
[35:26] restrictions when you go over
[35:28] the gas line as far as grading
[35:29] or any kind of road improvement
[35:33] yeah it's very difficult
[35:36] the water situation
[35:40] it was interesting this morning
[35:42] cause I was on my way to the
[35:43] meeting here and they said it is
[35:45] not just a it happens
[35:47] periodically. how often does
[35:49] that happen in what areas of the
[35:51] twin lakes is happening at it
[35:53] sounds like you guys are losing
[35:55] water often well to answer
[35:59] your question
[36:00] chair
[36:03] it happens
[36:04] I would say more than
[36:06] periodically we either have no
[36:09] water or no electricity.
[36:12] and it's only like a certain
[36:14] section and I don't know if ours
[36:17] we live in that area where it's
[36:19] always been impacted
[36:21] our neighbors would have water
[36:24] neighborighs on the other side
[36:25] would have water but I don't
[36:27] know if our water tank is
[36:28] connected withexican springs
[36:30] when they're without water we
[36:32] don't have water and that water
[36:34] what the the area that I'm
[36:36] talking about is if you know
[36:37] where the chapter house is
[36:39] straight down east from there
[36:41] and you notice the housing there
[36:42] and the elementary is just east
[36:45] of Dda Headart is just east of
[36:47] there yeah
[36:49] Twin Lakes housing yeah just
[36:52] it's that whole strip will have
[36:53] no water
[36:55] and if and if the power goes
[36:58] out it's completely out a
[37:00] blackout
[37:01] and you just I mean people will
[37:04] call me I will call NTUA and try
[37:06] to get somebody get some
[37:07] information really back to
[37:08] the community residents
[37:11] so NTUA is aware of it
[37:15] we've been calling and calling
[37:17] and
[37:17] their answer is always your area
[37:21] is not the only one affected all
[37:24] these other areas so we'll
[37:26] address it when we will address
[37:28] it when we find a broken water
[37:30] line
[37:32] so you don't know if it's
[37:33] actually a broken water line or
[37:36] don't know we just report it you
[37:38] just report it what happens
[37:40] at the school do you know if
[37:43] they don't have any water they
[37:44] get water delivered water
[37:46] bottles delivered and then they
[37:49] also have
[37:50] other alternative ways
[37:53] for the restroom facility
[37:56] or if worst comes to worst
[37:59] the last thing they do I know
[38:01] for a fact is they don't release
[38:04] school any time during the
[38:05] school day because they don't
[38:06] know if anybody will be home to
[38:08] receive the kits or even if they
[38:10] have a key to get into their
[38:12] house
[38:12] it's better and safer for them
[38:14] to stay at the school and I just
[38:17] want members to know this is
[38:18] this happens atchi too it
[38:20] happened once a couple of years
[38:23] at elementary you we have and
[38:24] they told my kids that because
[38:26] they couldn't get porta potties
[38:28] they had to get on the bus and
[38:30] go to Twinlakes to use the
[38:32] restroom at one moment
[38:34] so this is it's an issue I
[38:38] and you have reached out
[38:39] tonTwe ok
[38:43] I'm I'm going to talk to our our
[38:45] our public school company they
[38:47] oversight task force and PED and
[38:50] then we'll go from there too and
[38:55] and the delegates
[38:56] somebody from the nation's far
[38:59] leadership are they aware
[39:01] thelDAs or I think oh
[39:05] thelAs are the ones that work
[39:07] for council delegate that
[39:09] because they they're the ones
[39:11] attending the meetings and you
[39:12] haven't spoken to a delegate
[39:13] directly more than the delegate
[39:16] because delegates always in
[39:18] the window on those committee
[39:20] meetings and all that so he
[39:22] has 2 2lDAs that work under him
[39:25] so they go to these meetings at
[39:27] the local level can you have
[39:29] something generated written
[39:33] to the the members or to me and
[39:34] then I'll
[39:34] disseminate it to to our members
[39:36] here
[39:36] to read it over in that way
[39:39] representatives here can also
[39:42] take it up the line to our to
[39:44] who we talk to too and get it
[39:46] addressed cause I think it is in
[39:48] especially when we talk about
[39:50] our children
[39:52] it should probably even go to
[39:53] OEh in some instances because
[39:55] I'm assuming that senior center
[39:57] and that gets shut down when the
[39:59] water pressures because you
[40:00] can't have you can't
[40:03] ok let me see the chapter I
[40:08] know that the old chapter
[40:09] house with the demolition you
[40:12] need to report that to us to in
[40:14] that process of where you're
[40:15] standing because right now on my
[40:17] list that I just received last
[40:19] week that it says nobody's
[40:21] reported anything and you guys
[40:23] are under the red about where
[40:24] the project stands so you need
[40:27] to call our DFfa and let them
[40:29] know where you guys are at in
[40:31] the process so it reflects in
[40:33] what
[40:33] I receive or else will be in
[40:35] trouble by the time the session
[40:39] startsmorrow we're having a
[40:40] leadership meeting tomorrow
[40:41] morning at the chapter and
[40:43] that's when the council delegate
[40:44] and his LDA that's when we we
[40:47] report to each others
[40:49] and the officials so and yeah
[40:51] they'll be that that will be on
[40:54] the list yeah and I just want to
[40:56] make sure too I mean I'm not
[40:57] trying to because I know I
[41:00] have other chapter leaders here
[41:02] and community members here that
[41:04] if we're not really aware of
[41:06] the situation but we need
[41:08] something in writing even when I
[41:10] talked to my congressional
[41:11] leaders especially when it's
[41:13] like a federal road or something
[41:14] is it's like yeah there's a
[41:16] problem with this road
[41:18] no it's not just because I'm
[41:19] driving on it but I need a
[41:21] community member to come forward
[41:22] and put that in writing so I can
[41:24] send it up and say this is an
[41:26] issue coming from this person in
[41:27] this community and that they're
[41:29] not just thinking I'm trying to
[41:30] do something that's easier for
[41:32] me and to drive on to where I
[41:35] drive or in any issue in that
[41:37] sense so we need to receive that
[41:39] in writing in that sense but
[41:41] thank you for the work you do
[41:44] and I believe that process to
[41:46] that proposed process
[41:47] was just recently proposed
[41:50] but we're going back to to
[41:52] make sure that you guys are
[41:53] shovel ready in that sense but I
[41:55] think it does, I don't think it
[41:57] has been communicated to the
[41:58] chapters yet because it seems
[42:00] like it's coming top down and
[42:03] then we'll go from there because
[42:05] I do believe that Navajo Nation
[42:08] areigrother has their process
[42:10] that hurts our chapters and
[42:14] they need to streamline it over
[42:16] there and get their their ducks
[42:17] in a row
[42:18] and then let our our chapters
[42:19] know
[42:20] what's what's there but once
[42:22] it's done it'll be communicated
[42:24] out as soon as possible. I don't
[42:25] know if you have any questions
[42:26] for me. Oh, and the lighting
[42:28] because I don't think you guys
[42:31] ever had a school zone like
[42:33] ever in that area. it was just a
[42:35] safety corridor that was it.
[42:38] Tohatchee does not have one
[42:40] there's got
[42:40] knocked down I think in an
[42:42] accident or something but all
[42:44] along for91, that's going to
[42:46] be something I will will address
[42:48] up and down49 because I
[42:51] think new comes the other one
[42:53] up and down there that needs
[42:55] and even with the bus routes and
[43:00] rockcksprings with the
[43:00] because I do believetachi
[43:03] changed her transportation route
[43:05] so your school bus
[43:06] transportation routes need to
[43:08] make sure they're communicated
[43:10] so that we know where that
[43:12] zone's supposed to be how far
[43:13] out
[43:13] in that sense and I know we
[43:16] did
[43:18] I don't know if there's actually
[43:20] needs to be a turnout extended
[43:22] like they did at Chi Dodge
[43:24] because we were having issues
[43:26] right there on top of the hill
[43:27] and you saw we extended that
[43:29] lane out for for that traffic. I
[43:32] don't know
[43:32] how that but let's let's take
[43:36] this further but thank you and
[43:38] alluding to the turnout to the
[43:40] elementary school needs to bewi.
[43:42] we have two yeah big buses that
[43:45] go in there and you can turn out
[43:47] and then you wait for the
[43:48] vehicles creates a congestion in
[43:51] the mornings they told me
[43:52] because I told them
[43:54] tohachielementary was like that
[43:55] and they said you're right it's
[43:56] too narrow but I'm not sure what
[43:58] we because that road right
[44:00] there's a BIA road and that one
[44:02] might be too right
[44:06] to be ident yeah to the to the
[44:07] housing ok
[44:09] but that one was they did a
[44:11] good job right there at Doy
[44:14] dodge they completed it that's
[44:16] yeah it's very safe and I like
[44:18] it
[44:19] thank you thank you for the work
[44:21] you do thank you thank you for
[44:22] joining us and hopefully we get
[44:24] to be out there. I know I
[44:25] stopped by there a couple of
[44:26] times but you guys are busy too
[44:30] I let them know I stopped by
[44:32] write a little note and I don't
[44:33] know if you can read my writing
[44:34] but thank you thank you
[44:37] thank you all ok committee
[44:40] members we will move on to item
[44:42] two update from the city
[44:42] ofallllup
[44:45] and we have Frank Gippetti and
[44:49] Marc Dipali and I would also
[44:50] like to mention that I did see
[44:51] heavy equipment coming from
[44:53] Gallup headed up north on491 so
[44:55] I'm sure that's a county or the
[44:57] city going out to great roads so
[44:59] we appreciate that very much for
[45:01] the outreach as we move forward
[45:06] I know petty's been before us
[45:06] before and
[45:07] I don't know if mayor's coming
[45:09] back but thank you for joining
[45:11] us audience members
[48:09] OK and a little bit of
[48:10] housekeeping if you go out
[48:12] this door don't go out the
[48:13] second door. The restrooms are
[48:15] just the first door down to the
[48:16] right the restrooms are there.
[48:18] Second
[48:21] ' m just kidding
[48:22] it'll be very close to it but
[48:24] thank you good morning and you
[48:26] may
[48:28] You out there Benny
[48:30] chair chairman Pinto legislators
[48:37] legislative council staff She
[48:41] Frankcipetti and Nisha Beagunna
[48:43] Nnichelele Italian bush's chin
[48:46] Irish English dashache
[48:50] Italian dachanae city of
[48:53] Gallupbannonish city manager
[48:55] initially so my name is
[48:57] Frankippetti. fourthgenation
[48:58] Gallup,
[48:59] love my hometown I'd have to say
[49:01] that's why I'm still here
[49:03] good place to raise a family
[49:04] fifth generation is here
[49:06] One of these days we'll have a
[49:08] sixthgeneration but right now I
[49:09] have grand dogs
[49:12] welcome welcome to Gallup.
[49:14] we wanted to do a short
[49:15] discussion on the Navajo Gallup
[49:17] water supply project.
[49:19] our mayor being the water
[49:21] engineer that's been involved in
[49:23] this since conception. I think
[49:25] it'd be more appropriate for him
[49:26] to talk about that. Then I've
[49:28] also brought deborah Martinez
[49:30] who runs our behavioral health
[49:31] programs and I brought her in
[49:34] so when we talked the unhoused
[49:36] and housing initiatives
[49:38] she she can give a deeper
[49:40] background and answer more in
[49:42] depth questions than I would be
[49:44] able to. I know a little bit
[49:45] about the city and every
[49:46] component but we have experts
[49:49] so'd like to turn it over to
[49:50] Maor depaulli to talk about our
[49:51] Navajo gallup
[49:55] thanks rank then thanks again
[49:56] for coming to madam chair and
[49:58] everybody already gave an
[49:59] introduction and welcome so
[50:01] thenavel gallup project as you
[50:02] guys know has been in the works
[50:03] for over100 years1922 is when it
[50:07] was first started and we're not
[50:08] gonna go through all the
[50:08] tribulations and stuff but it
[50:10] was delayed in in 2019. the
[50:13] delivery date was supposed to be
[50:16] December31st,2024. that
[50:18] delayed that data has been
[50:19] delayed because of some some mac
[50:22] operational things that that
[50:23] would enhance the
[50:24] project.
[50:25] so right now the del delivery
[50:26] date is set for about 2030.
[50:29] hopefully by then the we'll
[50:32] have the rest of the the water
[50:33] treatment plant done and the the
[50:34] water delivery facilities
[50:35] installed and we'll be seeing
[50:37] drinking water in gallup and
[50:39] that means also all of our
[50:41] neighbors to the north twin
[50:43] Lakes of course Tohatchie and
[50:45] all the chapters around Gallup
[50:48] fromhurch rockyambato read
[50:53] springs umchilta ed rockck
[50:54] magnuitto Wa be distributed all
[50:54] through town but right now
[50:57] we're still on groundwater and
[50:58] we really appreciate all the the
[51:00] help that the state has given us
[51:02] by supplementing the delay in
[51:05] the the compensating for the
[51:06] delay and the delivery of the
[51:07] surface water by giving us money
[51:09] to drill wells so far we've
[51:11] drilled about 6 wells and we
[51:13] should have all three of those
[51:14] equipped unfortunately
[51:17] because of switch gear and
[51:19] that's electrical switch gear
[51:20] and and pumps we use the same
[51:23] switch gear and pumps that they
[51:24] use in the oil industry and when
[51:28] oil's100 dollars a barrel
[51:29] it's hard to get that those
[51:31] companies to want even come to
[51:32] gallup so we are having a little
[51:34] bit of struggle getting our
[51:35] water wells equipped with the
[51:37] proper pumps and switch gear.
[51:40] with that umc again should we
[51:42] should have hopefully the I
[51:42] think the water is on time to be
[51:44] delivered so the surface water
[51:45] should be here but in the
[51:46] meantime we're still struggling
[51:47] with groundwater
[51:48] and if you do and if anybody has
[51:51] any questions about thearbo
[51:52] gallup or anything I'd be glad
[51:53] to answer them.
[51:58] Yeah let's go ahead and have you
[52:00] all present and then we'll take
[52:02] questions after so
[52:09] Thank you vice chair.
[52:11] attached you you we were giving
[52:13] you several graphs
[52:17] last winter
[52:20] for the unhoused
[52:25] ally gallup has a number
[52:30] and
[52:31] we were working to
[52:33] I'm not plugged in sorry once
[52:35] again we did a warming center
[52:36] last winter. thank you very much
[52:40] legislative council services
[52:41] is always on top of things
[52:45] we
[52:45] had a warming center to try to
[52:47] prevent exposure deaths
[52:50] gallup traditionally has a large
[52:53] number of exposure desks
[52:56] it's it's not uncommon to see
[52:58] subzero temperatures in Gallllup
[53:00] during the wintertime.
[53:01] so December 22nd through
[53:03] February 28, we had a warming
[53:06] center we leased a portion of a
[53:09] motel provided daily ser
[53:11] or evening services for them.
[53:15] I'm not gonna say it was a
[53:17] smooth
[53:20] it it had some roadblocks
[53:23] people wanting to bring alcohol
[53:25] in weapons in some violence
[53:29] so as we started we we had to
[53:31] be equipped a little bit deeper
[53:32] with security
[53:33] and and other things to keep
[53:36] staff safe
[53:38] it it it we were hoping for
[53:40] something smooth, appreciated,
[53:43] I'm gonna say some families
[53:44] did
[53:45] it was troubling to see
[53:47] having to see children
[53:48] coming in
[53:49] to it
[53:52] so it it did serve its
[53:54] purpose
[53:55] but with not without
[53:56] roadblocks and and that's
[53:58] something that
[53:58] the group that does take it this
[54:02] next year if they want to. city
[54:04] he'd be happy to be the fiscal
[54:05] agent but we're asking
[54:07] another group some some of
[54:09] the groups that are wanting to
[54:10] do cooling and warming centers
[54:11] in the area
[54:12] and are directly with the
[54:14] unhoused already might already
[54:16] have that expertise to to do it
[54:18] more than what the city did.
[54:20] again we provide services
[54:24] we have
[54:25] groups that that meet offer
[54:28] services but when we're offering
[54:30] services we're offering to to
[54:33] external agencies we the city
[54:34] itself doesn't do the direct
[54:36] services
[54:36] so we were stepping up on this
[54:39] almost
[54:39] expected to be more of a direct
[54:42] service which we're not equipped
[54:43] to do so we'd like to see
[54:45] another one of the groups
[54:46] take it but again they can't
[54:49] really be the fiscal agent so I
[54:52] I will offer the city services
[54:53] to be that fiscal agent and help
[54:55] coordinate the financing portion
[54:58] but when it comes down to the
[54:59] programming portion again we
[55:01] would love to do intakes we
[55:03] would love to help with the
[55:04] referrals but we'd like to see
[55:06] somebody who's equipped
[55:07] dealing with all the
[55:09] components of the unhoused to
[55:11] actually do the services itself
[55:14] so we don't want it to go away
[55:16] but at the same time we don't
[55:17] want to be the direct portion
[55:19] because again safety for our
[55:21] staff
[55:22] and and then
[55:22] we have knowledge but we're not
[55:26] experts OK a lot of data
[55:28] there for you and deb if you'd
[55:30] like to talk about the the data
[55:34] did a great job. again we we
[55:36] do have these type of services
[55:38] to to break down the data and
[55:42] and to
[55:45] I can't think of the name of
[55:46] your
[55:49] ro up that each of your grants
[55:50] has to have that breaks the data
[55:51] down
[55:53] evaluate evaluator. we do have
[55:54] those type of services so she
[55:56] does a great job with the data
[55:58] madam chairir committee
[56:01] like we did we did a pilot
[56:02] project with the emergency
[56:04] shelter we contracted with
[56:05] various programs they are
[56:08] listed here we had
[56:10] transport services we use the
[56:16] hotel we gallupunity Health
[56:16] was actually the ones operating
[56:18] it but it took a lot of
[56:20] manpower and you'll see some of
[56:22] the recommendations out of of
[56:23] the the warming shelter so we
[56:27] had 292,971 intakes and out of
[56:32] those there was 636 unique
[56:34] individuals so you'll see split
[56:36] it opened by population
[56:39] and then the highest number of
[56:41] stays there was 63 but you'll
[56:44] see that a majority of the
[56:45] people didn't stay less than5
[56:47] days.
[56:49] you'll see the population
[56:51] we didn't break it down by the
[56:53] time that we had got this going
[56:54] it was kind of a last minute
[56:55] thing it was an emergency
[56:57] shelter 64% of the individuals
[57:00] are from McKinley County. you'll
[57:02] see the ethnicity the age range
[57:04] and then the percentage of time
[57:06] they were homelessness and then
[57:08] which was interesting was the
[57:09] barriers to housing a lot of
[57:11] individuals had missing
[57:12] documents had substance use
[57:15] disorder, no housing for a large
[57:17] families
[57:18] access to services, access to
[57:20] communication, no physical
[57:22] mailing address, mental health
[57:24] and rental prices
[57:33] Thank you Deb we also do
[57:35] outreach monthly where our
[57:37] law enforcement fire, any
[57:40] agency that wants to go along
[57:41] with us and and then Deb's
[57:44] department goes out and and
[57:46] actually walks the ditches,
[57:49] walks the area of traditional
[57:51] unhoused locations a lot of our
[57:54] transient camps and they go and
[57:55] visit
[57:57] and we we try to talk to him
[58:00] build trust, offer services
[58:02] find what the underlying causes
[58:04] if it's housing how how can we
[58:06] help refer you to to some place
[58:08] to help with housing if it's
[58:09] missing documents we we can help
[58:12] to try to get him the documents
[58:14] for substance abuse we can do
[58:15] referrals but I'm gonna say
[58:17] that's that's very difficult in
[58:18] our area without mandatory
[58:23] required
[58:25] they they don't want to go
[58:27] they don't wanna stay
[58:30] we're we're finding that our
[58:31] ditch roerco
[58:35] the the river system is a haven
[58:37] for the unhoused a lot of it
[58:41] falls under state jurisdiction.
[58:42] a lot of it falls under
[58:43] Burlington Northern railroad
[58:45] jurisdiction. some of it we have
[58:47] no jurisdiction whatsoever so it
[58:50] it becomes a a mecca for
[58:52] prostitution for drugs used
[58:56] to be alcohol which was easier
[58:58] to deal with but now it's
[58:59] fentanyl it's meth
[59:01] it it it's it's getting deeper
[59:04] I believe in the the mayor's
[59:06] opening he talked about the
[59:08] trafficking
[59:09] and and it's amazing to hear how
[59:11] many young girls that oh I just
[59:13] had a ride into town and and and
[59:14] they left me
[59:17] that that's a cover
[59:19] they're they're here they're
[59:20] being they're being marketed
[59:22] it's it's a sad and and it's
[59:24] very difficult for us they
[59:25] haven't committed a crime that
[59:26] we know of. we know what's
[59:28] happening but to prove it and
[59:30] when they just tell you I'm I'm
[59:31] here voluntarily I was left. I
[59:33] don't want services
[59:35] and they walk across the bridge
[59:36] away from you and immediately
[59:37] get picked up by somebody you
[59:40] know they're being trafficked it
[59:41] it it's it's a sad
[59:42] sad step so
[59:45] anything we can get for
[59:47] mandatory treatment for those
[59:50] that are not competent because
[59:52] of the heavy drug use
[59:53] or anything that can be helped
[59:55] with
[59:56] the the trafficking any laws
[1:00:00] that you can do would be a great
[1:00:01] help.
[1:00:02] during these outreach this year
[1:00:04] we're starting to collect deeper
[1:00:05] data
[1:00:07] one of them I brought was
[1:00:08] where where the people are
[1:00:09] coming from
[1:00:11] so we did two
[1:00:11] two so far August and September
[1:00:14] for this fiscal year
[1:00:18] these are low numbers
[1:00:21] august we hit I believe
[1:00:24] around50 some people the
[1:00:26] September 1 we hit a little
[1:00:26] over100
[1:00:29] so it's it's not the best data
[1:00:31] because of the small population
[1:00:32] numbers but but you can see
[1:00:34] where where the where the people
[1:00:39] are coming from. In august
[1:00:41] everybodydy talked to us it was
[1:00:42] it was nice to hear and and you
[1:00:44] can see the breakdown of of
[1:00:46] where the people came from
[1:00:47] Gallup might be over emphasized
[1:00:51] um73% doesn't mean they're from
[1:00:53] Gallup. We know Gallup has a new
[1:00:55] meaning
[1:00:57] people used to laugh when
[1:00:58] they tell me they come from
[1:01:00] Comato and I'm like ok which
[1:01:01] direction
[1:01:03] because there's not many people
[1:01:04] in Comaro you know they live in
[1:01:06] Apache Creek if they live east
[1:01:09] ofummoto towards Dadl west north
[1:01:10] they're from Comado even though
[1:01:11] they're not inomado well that's
[1:01:13] the same for gallup
[1:01:15] September we we had a lot
[1:01:18] refused to talk to us.
[1:01:20] it's sad to see that that huge
[1:01:22] left b block blue block just
[1:01:24] refused to give us information
[1:01:26] but we have people coming from
[1:01:27] Texas
[1:01:30] navajo Nation
[1:01:31] Zunni, or
[1:01:34] when I put arizona I don't put
[1:01:36] the
[1:01:37] chinnley
[1:01:40] granato. I I count those as
[1:01:42] Navonation. So this group from
[1:01:43] that that 2% from arizona we're
[1:01:47] talking Phoenix, Tucson, those
[1:01:49] type of places and what we're
[1:01:51] finding with a lot of those as
[1:01:53] we talk to them they come to
[1:01:54] gallup for treatment
[1:01:57] or
[1:01:58] they get on a bus
[1:02:01] or they're kicked off a train
[1:02:03] they can get intoxicated on the
[1:02:05] train the next stop the train
[1:02:06] stops
[1:02:07] you're removed
[1:02:09] they have a bus ticket and this
[1:02:11] is as far as they get. we've
[1:02:13] we've actually talked to some
[1:02:14] people last year
[1:02:17] several Africanericans it's like
[1:02:18] hey what brought you to gallup?
[1:02:20] It's like well we were going
[1:02:21] west and this is as far as we
[1:02:22] had money to get.
[1:02:24] this was the bus stop that our
[1:02:25] ticket ran out
[1:02:27] here we are
[1:02:29] that type of stuff we see
[1:02:31] some that go to treatment
[1:02:33] they either voluntarily say I'm
[1:02:35] done with this because there's
[1:02:36] no again no mandatory to
[1:02:38] complete treatment they walk out
[1:02:40] after 2 days,80 days whatever
[1:02:42] they walk out
[1:02:44] they don't have the money to get
[1:02:45] back home
[1:02:47] some of them actually graduate
[1:02:49] from these programs
[1:02:52] they don't have the money to go
[1:02:54] back home
[1:02:55] and unfortunately then we're
[1:02:56] seeing
[1:02:57] they graduate from these
[1:02:58] programs
[1:02:59] they don't have the housing they
[1:03:01] don't have the workforce
[1:03:03] they start the cycle all over
[1:03:04] again we know if they end up
[1:03:07] back in that real perco
[1:03:08] within 30 days they're going to
[1:03:10] be using again it's sad to say
[1:03:12] the last giraffe is a much
[1:03:14] better representation this is
[1:03:15] well over1000 people.
[1:03:17] these are the people done
[1:03:18] intakes at NCI who come to NCI
[1:03:23] and and when I say come tonCI we
[1:03:26] do allow people come to NCI who
[1:03:28] are clean
[1:03:30] that need a place to stay for
[1:03:32] the night, especially in the
[1:03:33] cold months.
[1:03:34] um, especially before we had the
[1:03:35] warming shelter we allow them
[1:03:38] to come if you're clean when you
[1:03:39] come in and you're clean the
[1:03:40] next morning
[1:03:41] have a great day
[1:03:43] you got a nice bed you got your
[1:03:44] clothes washed showered, fed
[1:03:48] and and you can go bo about your
[1:03:50] life now if they are intoxicated
[1:03:52] we do do72hoho tip
[1:03:58] twelvehour and72 hour depending
[1:03:59] on how many times they've been
[1:04:01] to the facility in the last th30
[1:04:01] days.
[1:04:03] so so we have some that we hold
[1:04:06] longer
[1:04:10] this so this is much better data
[1:04:11] and again Texas, Colorado
[1:04:14] arizona
[1:04:15] other portions of New Mexico
[1:04:17] Navajo Nation Zunni
[1:04:21] gallopingam merkel and then the
[1:04:21] rema and when I sayRama it's
[1:04:23] it's ramah pine hill area so you
[1:04:25] know we're seeing a large number
[1:04:28] and and this is where we're
[1:04:28] we're asking you
[1:04:31] we're we're funding NCI with
[1:04:34] with the money that that we get
[1:04:35] granted
[1:04:37] we're we're looking for other
[1:04:38] support this is a national
[1:04:40] problem as you can see by the
[1:04:43] other states
[1:04:45] and it's anavajo nation problem
[1:04:46] and it's a gallup problem so
[1:04:49] working trying to work in
[1:04:50] conjunction with all parties
[1:04:56] so
[1:04:57] it it it's just something I
[1:04:58] wanted to to put on the table to
[1:04:59] to see what we have and then
[1:05:02] open that discussion
[1:05:04] We do have gallup housing
[1:05:05] authority who are doing the
[1:05:08] the low income housing
[1:05:12] great to see
[1:05:14] they are maxed out
[1:05:16] they have a long waiting list
[1:05:18] they're now looking at working
[1:05:19] towards the people who've timed
[1:05:22] out within their program they've
[1:05:24] been in the maximum number of
[1:05:25] years months and and now they
[1:05:28] have to move to the next level
[1:05:29] housing workforce housing so
[1:05:30] they're they're starting to look
[1:05:31] at that and Gallllup is also
[1:05:33] starting we have several
[1:05:35] potential
[1:05:37] residential sites where the city
[1:05:40] of Gallup owns land
[1:05:42] we would like to really start
[1:05:44] turning that land into
[1:05:45] the housing to start opening the
[1:05:50] low rent housing
[1:05:52] to some of these unhoused type
[1:05:54] to to who qualify and start
[1:05:57] taking those that are now aging
[1:05:59] out
[1:05:59] of the low income into the
[1:06:02] workforce development,
[1:06:05] tho those families as soon as
[1:06:07] they age out where are they
[1:06:07] going
[1:06:09] Gallup doesn't have workforce
[1:06:11] housing.
[1:06:12] we have market rate housing
[1:06:15] and the market rates in Gallup
[1:06:16] are high.
[1:06:18] so we'd like to build more of a
[1:06:20] workforce smaller homes
[1:06:23] we would love to do senior
[1:06:25] we're building a new senior
[1:06:26] center and we thank your
[1:06:27] Department of Aging for
[1:06:28] everything they've done for us.
[1:06:31] It's it's fabulous. we're
[1:06:32] looking at a grand opening in
[1:06:33] November so we'll be sending
[1:06:34] invites out
[1:06:36] it's going to be a beautiful
[1:06:37] center generator will
[1:06:41] actually have an emergency
[1:06:42] shelter for elderly therefore
[1:06:45] when the power goes out
[1:06:47] those type of things
[1:06:49] we would love we own the land
[1:06:50] across the street. we would love
[1:06:52] to see senior housing because
[1:06:54] we're seeing that's another need
[1:06:55] also
[1:06:56] so we were doing research we've
[1:07:00] looked in Gunnison we've looked
[1:07:01] at other places that have
[1:07:03] presented to the International
[1:07:05] cityity Manag's association who
[1:07:06] are doing wonderful workforce
[1:07:08] developing housing and how with
[1:07:11] the startup money
[1:07:13] they then can take over
[1:07:15] with their revenue to escalate
[1:07:18] it and continue it for for the
[1:07:21] initial investment. So we're
[1:07:22] doing that research and we will
[1:07:24] be applying to all the available
[1:07:26] programs both state and
[1:07:27] federally to get us that seed
[1:07:30] money to build the first complex
[1:07:32] type thing and then move we're
[1:07:34] also working with some
[1:07:35] behavioral health agencies as I
[1:07:37] said they you go for addiction
[1:07:40] you come out clean in 90 days?
[1:07:43] where do you go? Nobody has the
[1:07:46] transitional housing where to go
[1:07:48] so we are talking with some of
[1:07:50] them we just met with our
[1:07:51] Corners new staff. they have a
[1:07:53] new CEO and we met with them a
[1:07:55] couple weeks ago and and and I
[1:07:58] pitched the idea wed pitched it
[1:07:59] to him last year there was some
[1:08:00] momentum excitement then they
[1:08:02] changed people and it was quiet
[1:08:03] during the last legislative
[1:08:05] season. I didn't want to come
[1:08:06] ask for anything not knowing if
[1:08:08] it was wanted or not this year
[1:08:10] it looks like it's gonna be
[1:08:11] wanted they would love to build
[1:08:13] a
[1:08:13] transitional one year housing so
[1:08:15] as they graduate from these
[1:08:16] treatment centers they can move
[1:08:18] into group housing
[1:08:19] and in that group housing they
[1:08:21] have the camaraderie they have
[1:08:22] the counseling a place where the
[1:08:24] PO can meet with them
[1:08:26] they have the individual
[1:08:27] counseling but more importantly
[1:08:29] we can offer them a set location
[1:08:32] for the public transportation,
[1:08:35] working with other agencies to
[1:08:36] get them into workforce
[1:08:37] development. give them that one
[1:08:39] year of clean life, building
[1:08:41] skills to where they graduate
[1:08:43] that next year
[1:08:45] hopefully they've got a small
[1:08:46] next stake to go where they want
[1:08:48] whether it's back home whether
[1:08:50] it's here and then to live clean
[1:08:53] in in the next transition
[1:08:56] without having to go back on the
[1:08:57] street
[1:08:59] and and and start the cycle over
[1:09:02] so those are some of the things
[1:09:03] that we're looking at doing
[1:09:04] we're we're excited about and
[1:09:06] we're starting to get other
[1:09:07] agencies to look with us and I
[1:09:09] think that's important. City
[1:09:11] can't do it by herself. The
[1:09:13] outside agencies can't do it by
[1:09:15] theirsel but with good
[1:09:16] partnerships I think we're going
[1:09:17] to get there
[1:09:17] so we would all love to stand
[1:09:20] for questions
[1:09:22] thank you memberspresentative
[1:09:22] Luundstone
[1:09:26] thank you madam chair and I'd
[1:09:27] like to thank the panel this
[1:09:29] morning for being here. A
[1:09:30] coupleup of questions that I did
[1:09:31] have in august we had a joint
[1:09:34] committee hearing federal funds
[1:09:35] stabilization with the health
[1:09:37] committee
[1:09:38] that was over at the county
[1:09:40] and it's interesting to listen
[1:09:42] about how we need other
[1:09:43] support regre regarding some of
[1:09:46] these services for the homeless
[1:09:47] and behavioral health services
[1:09:50] one of the issues that was
[1:09:51] brought up and actually being
[1:09:53] initiated by some of the members
[1:09:55] of this committee is asking for
[1:09:57] an increase in alcohol tax.
[1:10:00] and I'm asking you guys don't
[1:10:03] have to tell me now what you
[1:10:04] think about it but obviously
[1:10:06] I'll want to know before the
[1:10:07] session starts where does the
[1:10:08] city stand on increase for
[1:10:11] alcohol tax to try to get some
[1:10:13] of these things dealt with as
[1:10:16] I've mentioned in that committee
[1:10:17] hearing, McKinley County already
[1:10:20] has a liquor excise tax at5%.
[1:10:22] what this bill is calling for as
[1:10:26] an additional5% on top of that
[1:10:27] and
[1:10:28] the important thing to remember
[1:10:30] though is that it is
[1:10:32] considerable increase in money
[1:10:34] coming back to Mcinley County.
[1:10:36] You get about a million dollars
[1:10:38] in liquor excise tax now but if
[1:10:41] this additional tax was included
[1:10:45] what I saw on that chart was
[1:10:46] about 2 million that comes back
[1:10:47] to the county for services.
[1:10:49] obviouslybviously the city too
[1:10:51] but I need to know where you
[1:10:53] stand. I haven't voted for that
[1:10:54] bill and I serve on the tax
[1:10:56] committee. I haven't voted for
[1:10:57] it the last two times, but I
[1:10:59] need to know where we are on
[1:11:00] this I know we're going to
[1:11:02] have a separate meeting with the
[1:11:04] chamber. they're going to have a
[1:11:05] separate legislative meeting
[1:11:06] with all of its local
[1:11:07] legislators. I don't know if
[1:11:09] this will be an issue or not but
[1:11:11] I think it's important for the
[1:11:12] members of this committee as you
[1:11:14] see who who's here
[1:11:16] where do you guys stand on
[1:11:18] this? We don't we don't have to
[1:11:19] answer it today but we will need
[1:11:22] to know before the beginning of
[1:11:23] the session
[1:11:25] the other question I had is
[1:11:27] regarding the Navajo Gallup
[1:11:28] water supply project as the
[1:11:30] mayor knows, I have a long long
[1:11:32] history with that project and
[1:11:35] I'd like to ask
[1:11:37] is the proportional cost
[1:11:41] allocated to the s so the the
[1:11:43] cost of the pipeline. it's one
[1:11:45] project with two major pipelines
[1:11:48] so I'm curious is the hickoria
[1:11:51] site open now? iss it up and
[1:11:51] running?
[1:11:55] ma'am OK. so hickory is up and
[1:11:56] running because the state of New
[1:11:58] Mexico has put considerable
[1:11:59] money in this project as match
[1:12:03] you know we have the Indian
[1:12:04] water rights piece in the in the
[1:12:06] budget and we've put a lot of
[1:12:08] money through the New Mexico
[1:12:09] finance Authority through the
[1:12:11] waterterrust board through
[1:12:12] Capital outlay
[1:12:13] to try to offset the match
[1:12:15] that's required by the feds I
[1:12:17] know the city's match is75
[1:12:18] million but we have also tried
[1:12:22] to help with with state funds my
[1:12:25] my question is then have we
[1:12:27] resolved all the match
[1:12:29] requirement for
[1:12:35] madam chair andpresentative
[1:12:37] Lumstrom so the way that the
[1:12:38] project works is that there was
[1:12:41] a repayment contract required
[1:12:43] for hickoryia and for the city
[1:12:45] of Gallup but the biggest part
[1:12:47] of the whole project was the
[1:12:48] settlement amount of50 million
[1:12:50] dollars that the city that the
[1:12:52] state of New Mexico was to pay
[1:12:54] so all of the initial monies
[1:12:56] from the waterrust board there
[1:12:57] was actually some cash and some
[1:12:59] other grant monies that went
[1:13:00] into the project be it for
[1:13:01] actual capitalX projects or cash
[1:13:04] went to the state of New
[1:13:06] Mexico's portion and that was
[1:13:08] that was satisfied in about
[1:13:11] 2017. Since then the rest of the
[1:13:13] monies have been applied either
[1:13:15] to hickoria for their their cost
[1:13:17] what they call their obligation
[1:13:18] or or the city of gallups
[1:13:21] from what from what I understand
[1:13:23] everything on part of the
[1:13:25] hickorya has been satisfied and
[1:13:26] they are in some type of
[1:13:27] repayment contract to make
[1:13:29] sure they repay and thanks to
[1:13:32] all of our congressmen and the
[1:13:35] administ the current
[1:13:35] administration we have a76
[1:13:38] million dollars cost cap because
[1:13:40] of the delay the project went
[1:13:42] from about what we thought would
[1:13:45] be about1.1 billion it's almost
[1:13:46] over 2.3 and of course the
[1:13:48] city's port
[1:13:49] ion of that is is an average of
[1:13:51] about 8%. and so that's a lot
[1:13:55] of money for a town for a small
[1:13:57] town topa so we do have our cost
[1:14:00] gap and we have an any since the
[1:14:02] state's obligation has been met
[1:14:04] any monies that go into the
[1:14:05] Navajo Gallup project. so far we
[1:14:07] have another 8 million coming
[1:14:09] from waterrust board and we
[1:14:10] anticipate another 8 or10
[1:14:12] million for the pumping plant
[1:14:14] each will will be the final
[1:14:14] component of the city system we
[1:14:17] should get full credit for those
[1:14:18] and that'll go
[1:14:19] toward our76 million dollars
[1:14:20] match which should
[1:14:23] finalize all the city's money
[1:14:25] now we do have a loan
[1:14:27] obligations we did get through
[1:14:30] the waterrust board 6040 loans
[1:14:31] so we have about18 million
[1:14:33] dollars in loans we are repaying
[1:14:35] at a much lower percentage rate
[1:14:37] than the federal government the
[1:14:38] federal government's about4% the
[1:14:40] state of New Mexico is about 25%
[1:14:42] so it is a no brainer what we
[1:14:44] did on those so the only the
[1:14:46] only last piece of the puzzle
[1:14:48] is what they call interest
[1:14:50] during construction and that is
[1:14:52] a what this federal government
[1:14:55] charges all the participants
[1:14:57] during the construction portion
[1:14:59] of the project it's not interest
[1:15:01] on loan it's it's interest
[1:15:02] during construction so that
[1:15:03] component is the last thing that
[1:15:05] we are negotiating. We don't
[1:15:06] know if the76 million dollars
[1:15:08] includes the interest during
[1:15:10] construction I'm looking at
[1:15:11] Frank because he's the onen
[1:15:12] working on it or if it's gonna
[1:15:14] or if that's gonna be in charge
[1:15:15] to addition so that's the last
[1:15:17] component that we're worried
[1:15:17] about
[1:15:18] p re s ent ative Lunstrom
[1:15:20] so madam Chair, does that
[1:15:22] mean at least the city's
[1:15:25] responsibility of 676 million is
[1:15:29] resolved it's resolved except
[1:15:31] for the the interest or in
[1:15:32] construction and that interest
[1:15:34] would be at at a4% on the
[1:15:36] remaining components of
[1:15:37] construction which is about
[1:15:40] about $6600 million so that
[1:15:45] has not been resolved yet. We
[1:15:47] still need to with our repayment
[1:15:49] contract our revised re
[1:15:50] pa y ment contract come up with
[1:15:51] a plan and a formula of how we
[1:15:54] will be addressing the interest
[1:15:55] during construction
[1:15:56] and that an interest in
[1:15:58] construction is an elaborate
[1:16:00] thing that the federal
[1:16:01] government came up with 100
[1:16:02] years ago with the bureau of
[1:16:03] reclamation since they built the
[1:16:04] Hooveramm
[1:16:08] p re s ent ed Lonestrom if if I
[1:16:09] can add
[1:16:11] luckily we've minimized gallup's
[1:16:13] interest during
[1:16:18] we've
[1:16:19] we've
[1:16:20] prepaid
[1:16:22] most of ours so as as we get the
[1:16:25] waterru board as as we're
[1:16:26] building we're making those
[1:16:28] payments so they can't try to
[1:16:30] charge us interest when we're
[1:16:32] paying
[1:16:33] going through so we've
[1:16:35] minimized ours our component.
[1:16:38] So really126 million of that 2.1
[1:16:41] billion is going to be coming
[1:16:43] from either gallup or the state
[1:16:45] of New Mexico so I think when
[1:16:47] you look at the cost
[1:16:48] proportionate of the number of
[1:16:50] lines and such I think we're
[1:16:52] coming out pretty fair yeah
[1:16:54] we're coming up very fair.
[1:16:56] I I will speak for our
[1:16:58] surrounding area though we we
[1:17:00] really need to stay on the
[1:17:02] bureau of reclamation
[1:17:02] to ensure that the other
[1:17:05] portions you know we're always
[1:17:07] worried about gallup
[1:17:08] we needed to build pumping
[1:17:11] plant eight and we still need to
[1:17:12] build reach 2712 which goes
[1:17:15] through Caulpa hills and comes
[1:17:16] out by Redhill's mobilele
[1:17:18] Homeark that's the last
[1:17:19] components of gallup
[1:17:21] but but we still have going
[1:17:22] south we we've still got the
[1:17:25] RedRock chapter we've still got
[1:17:27] chielta resprings we have to
[1:17:28] think of our family members who
[1:17:30] live in the county who
[1:17:33] who are still as I said they're
[1:17:35] still gallup even though they
[1:17:36] don't live in the city limits we
[1:17:38] still consider him gallup. So,
[1:17:39] so we need to make sure that
[1:17:41] those are continuing and then of
[1:17:43] course we need to keep ensuring
[1:17:44] that IHs is going to be doing
[1:17:46] their component.'s great to have
[1:17:48] a water line but if it's not
[1:17:49] connected to a house that water
[1:17:51] line doesn't do any good
[1:17:54] so we're we're we're still
[1:17:55] stressing those we're still
[1:17:58] negotiating for we're we're
[1:18:00] going through with continuing
[1:18:02] resolutions every year
[1:18:04] they they still need to pony
[1:18:06] up the federal government needs
[1:18:07] to pony up that final
[1:18:09] to get the full project paid for
[1:18:11] it's not100% paid for at this
[1:18:13] date.
[1:18:15] they've got enough to satisfy
[1:18:16] the contracts that have been
[1:18:17] given this year
[1:18:19] but not those future
[1:18:20] as the southern component's
[1:18:23] going to our brothers and
[1:18:24] sisters south of Gallllup and
[1:18:26] those those components
[1:18:28] the money hasn't come up with
[1:18:29] yet
[1:18:30] so yes we can get water to
[1:18:32] gallup
[1:18:32] but can we get water to all
[1:18:34] those again this is a a rights
[1:18:38] water rights settlement
[1:18:41] gallup's very fortunate to be
[1:18:42] part of it but let's let's
[1:18:44] make sure it does what it's
[1:18:45] intended and and sometimes with
[1:18:47] the federal government we don't
[1:18:48] see that follow through so we
[1:18:50] want to continue lobbying and I
[1:18:52] would really love to think
[1:18:53] Representative Johnson
[1:18:55] andrerepresentative Luundstrom
[1:18:57] for earlier this year going to
[1:18:59] Dc and and helping us open doors
[1:19:02] to talk to the other legislature
[1:19:06] our federal legislators that
[1:19:08] we need to Luhan
[1:19:10] and and and heinrich being very
[1:19:15] instrumental in carrying the
[1:19:17] bills and pushing hard to ensure
[1:19:19] we got the cost cap
[1:19:21] plus
[1:19:22] other allocations to get that
[1:19:25] pumping plant bid out and
[1:19:26] started on construction
[1:19:27] so very big thank you to both of
[1:19:30] you for
[1:19:31] helping take some additional
[1:19:34] muscle up there
[1:19:36] they were our bodyguards on the
[1:19:37] street too
[1:19:39] madam Chair the reason I raised
[1:19:41] this is because if the project
[1:19:43] can't demonstrate beneficial use
[1:19:45] by actual people using it using
[1:19:47] the water we have problems in
[1:19:50] river City and what I mean is
[1:19:52] these chapters have to be part
[1:19:53] of this they are the reason
[1:19:55] we're getting this. it's an
[1:19:57] Indian water rights settlement
[1:19:58] without the chapters we ain't
[1:20:00] got a project. So I I think we
[1:20:03] got a whatever those hiccups
[1:20:06] are this is the right committee
[1:20:07] to hear that and I'd like to
[1:20:10] get something in writing from
[1:20:12] you Frank all of us would just
[1:20:14] so we know what we need to be
[1:20:16] talking about
[1:20:19] because we're we don't mind
[1:20:20] going back we don't mind
[1:20:21] fighting for this and
[1:20:22] working with the Navajo Nation
[1:20:24] and whoever but we got to know
[1:20:26] what we're fighting for and I
[1:20:28] think we have to demonstrate
[1:20:29] beneficial use and that means
[1:20:30] that these chapters need to be
[1:20:32] hooked up. Thank you madam
[1:20:33] Chair. Thank you Representative
[1:20:35] Lindstrom. and and and I will
[1:20:37] assure you north
[1:20:38] we have supported all the
[1:20:40] additional reaches. the reach
[1:20:42] going from down route 9 to
[1:20:45] Coyote Canyon sandingRock all
[1:20:49] the way to Crown pointint we we
[1:20:50] supported the reaches going from
[1:20:52] ya to hai to to Sebonito
[1:20:55] winnderrock we supported the
[1:20:56] ones closer to sheepsprings
[1:21:00] and and Nachiri going west to to
[1:21:02] the chapters off of491. of
[1:21:05] course all all of them down491.
[1:21:07] we've also supported going east
[1:21:09] down Padre CanyonRoad towards
[1:21:12] RedRock Park, ChurchRock,
[1:21:13] Yimbato we're we're ensuring
[1:21:14] that that water delivery is also
[1:21:16] there in the mechanisms
[1:21:18] they're talking now about
[1:21:20] addinguppton. I know it's going
[1:21:22] out of your jurisdiction but
[1:21:23] they're talking going west so
[1:21:24] that's part portion of yours
[1:21:25] through mintmore to the state
[1:21:29] line but then going on touppton
[1:21:33] and Sanders and and you know
[1:21:34] we've been very supportive of
[1:21:36] that also even even offering
[1:21:38] to take
[1:21:38] the land from
[1:21:41] yata ha going that way so you
[1:21:43] know we're supporting that I
[1:21:45] will say right now until this
[1:21:46] project is finished we're we're
[1:21:49] holding off doing full support
[1:21:51] for the western Navajo
[1:21:54] settlement it's a different
[1:21:56] river basin it and in arizona
[1:22:00] as you look at the western part
[1:22:01] of the arizona they're they're
[1:22:04] wanting water out of the
[1:22:05] Colorado and and of course
[1:22:06] that's the lower basin a lot
[1:22:08] more political you're now
[1:22:10] dealing with Nevada
[1:22:11] Montana
[1:22:13] Utah, Nevada arizona, or and and
[1:22:18] it's getting a lot more
[1:22:19] political where the upper basin
[1:22:22] we've already got our
[1:22:22] settlement. let's get it built
[1:22:24] and closed and then throw our
[1:22:27] support to to our brothers and
[1:22:28] sisters in in arizona. until
[1:22:31] then though againuppton that
[1:22:34] area we're throwing our support
[1:22:35] because it it's it's different
[1:22:38] they're in our watershed
[1:22:39] right now and and and we can
[1:22:41] prove that Gallup
[1:22:43] where our real perco goes it's
[1:22:45] going through their communities
[1:22:47] let's give them water so the one
[1:22:48] I'm really advocating for right
[1:22:50] now is we've got the north we've
[1:22:51] got the east west is just
[1:22:53] proposed at this date
[1:22:54] but South is on paper
[1:22:56] but we haven't seen any
[1:22:58] construction
[1:22:59] those are the ones that we're
[1:23:00] needing to stand up for
[1:23:02] and and that goes to the zuni
[1:23:04] watershed so you're looking at
[1:23:06] the chapters of ed rock read
[1:23:08] springs and Chichota.
[1:23:11] those three chapters we want to
[1:23:13] ensure that water is getting
[1:23:14] down there and I will say they
[1:23:15] will be ahead of the game as
[1:23:16] soon as this gets there because
[1:23:18] NTUA has a lot of those feeder
[1:23:20] routes already going.
[1:23:22] so as soon as we can supply
[1:23:24] additional water, those other
[1:23:26] homes can be added quicker
[1:23:30] thank youthing elseres
[1:23:31] representative just met madam
[1:23:34] chairir I just like to make sure
[1:23:35] that that we get something in
[1:23:36] writing before we have our big
[1:23:38] legislative meeting for the
[1:23:39] local legislators do you guys
[1:23:40] always do that for us in
[1:23:42] November or December the other
[1:23:43] thing is is that I wanted to ask
[1:23:44] Elo
[1:23:50] want to make sure these chapters
[1:23:52] are knowledgeable about what's
[1:23:53] going on. I mean we got to be in
[1:23:55] the game here
[1:23:56] thank you madam chair
[1:23:57] thank you madam chairir one nice
[1:23:59] to answer Representative
[1:24:01] Lunstrom's first question
[1:24:02] yes I'm I'm not gonna say no
[1:24:05] because debo hit me
[1:24:07] we have always actively pursued
[1:24:09] that extra tax again we are
[1:24:13] moving from seeing liquor
[1:24:15] addiction it's still a major
[1:24:17] issue we're starting to see more
[1:24:19] fentanyl meth, those type of
[1:24:22] addictions but we still have the
[1:24:23] alcohol and that alcohol tax
[1:24:26] does fund the other programs
[1:24:28] that are helping with the other
[1:24:30] addictions we see addiction
[1:24:32] as an addiction whether it's
[1:24:33] alcohol it it is a drug so that
[1:24:36] that extra million dollars
[1:24:38] that's coming in we can go
[1:24:40] beyond NCI the housing the
[1:24:42] intake the offers we can go more
[1:24:46] into treatment and and those
[1:24:48] type of things the the
[1:24:49] the year of transition type
[1:24:55] stuff that I was discussing we
[1:24:57] can do a lot more right now that
[1:24:59] first million is really just
[1:25:00] going to
[1:25:01] our initial programs of tracking
[1:25:05] offering services those type
[1:25:08] of things and of course NCI
[1:25:09] itself which is vital in our
[1:25:11] area but but an extra million
[1:25:13] dollars on top being financed by
[1:25:15] the drug itself it is is
[1:25:20] powerful now if you guys can get
[1:25:20] that more you know we're using
[1:25:22] our marijuana tax money for
[1:25:23] parks and recreation and
[1:25:25] prevention at the youth level
[1:25:29] and and it'll be amiss to say
[1:25:32] deb's groups have all been
[1:25:34] talking to us it's not just an
[1:25:36] added tax. it's limiting the
[1:25:39] number where it can come from
[1:25:42] and if that's possibility that
[1:25:44] would be wonderful too. We are
[1:25:45] seeing the outnumber of alcohol
[1:25:47] establishments in Gallup go
[1:25:48] down?
[1:25:49] but then we're seeing the
[1:25:51] recreational marijuana stuff
[1:25:53] exploding and and if we can get
[1:25:57] a balance amongst them all and
[1:26:00] and and more of a limit
[1:26:02] it it it helps our law
[1:26:03] enforcement with the the DWi or
[1:26:07] driving impaired again the
[1:26:09] more you spread it out
[1:26:10] the harder it is to track the
[1:26:12] harder it is to control and and
[1:26:14] those type of things so if if
[1:26:18] we can limit to where it's more
[1:26:21] manageable
[1:26:21] that would be a lot bigger help
[1:26:23] too
[1:26:25] thank you I have Representative
[1:26:27] Garcia
[1:26:30] thank you madam chair and
[1:26:32] colleagues on the Indian
[1:26:34] affairs committeetee I have a
[1:26:36] number of questions that I would
[1:26:38] like to ask. let me go ahead and
[1:26:39] ask all of them just so you can
[1:26:40] be able to respond to those
[1:26:45] he first of all I also want
[1:26:47] to support and
[1:26:48] say that we do need documents on
[1:26:51] the waterline issue that is
[1:26:54] happening you stated a number
[1:26:57] of numbers and data and
[1:27:00] whatever that that you have
[1:27:03] talked about but if you can put
[1:27:04] that in writing it would be
[1:27:05] easier for us to see what
[1:27:07] what has been made and what's
[1:27:09] what is still needed in those
[1:27:12] areas and a number of people
[1:27:16] and chapters and I guess
[1:27:19] population that
[1:27:19] ' s impacted and will benefit
[1:27:22] from this so if you can provide
[1:27:23] that to us as soon as possible
[1:27:26] like you've done with this
[1:27:27] emergency warming center
[1:27:30] with that what's what section
[1:27:33] of the city government is
[1:27:35] responsible for the emergency
[1:27:37] warming centre
[1:27:38] or was
[1:27:42] madam chair we were the fiscal
[1:27:45] agent
[1:27:45] for that through behavioral
[1:27:45] health
[1:27:48] and who was
[1:27:57] implementing the emergency
[1:27:59] center madam Chair
[1:28:01] Representative Garcia umallllup
[1:28:03] Community Health was the lead
[1:28:05] agency for the
[1:28:08] the implementation howard
[1:28:11] Johnson we rented the two
[1:28:12] ballrooms as a facility we also
[1:28:16] had gallup transnsit do the
[1:28:17] transportation out
[1:28:21] gallupunity antry donated some
[1:28:22] food so it was a well we all
[1:28:24] collaborated together to work on
[1:28:26] this
[1:28:27] and then workforce solutions
[1:28:30] officeice of housing gave us the
[1:28:31] emergency funding and how long
[1:28:34] has this been in operation?
[1:28:36] Madam Cha Representative Garcia
[1:28:38] this was only a pilot project
[1:28:40] just one year which is a
[1:28:45] not even it's like december 22
[1:28:46] through September 28hre
[1:28:47] representative 2.5
[1:28:54] this is just to address people
[1:28:56] that need a place during the
[1:28:57] winter
[1:28:59] but in the meantime we also are
[1:29:02] very much aware of that unho
[1:29:04] individuals within the city
[1:29:08] I'm aware of that these
[1:29:10] individuals
[1:29:11] are coming and going at various
[1:29:14] times but most of them continue
[1:29:17] to be within the city
[1:29:19] and I'm aware that these
[1:29:23] unhealth individual had
[1:29:24] established a camp down by the
[1:29:27] river by the railroad track but
[1:29:29] that has been cleaned out and
[1:29:31] they're no longer there I'm just
[1:29:33] wondering where did they go
[1:29:35] where where are they now that
[1:29:38] I'm sure there are other areas
[1:29:40] that they have been establishing
[1:29:42] and have been going to these
[1:29:44] places
[1:29:46] where are where are they now?
[1:29:49] madam chairir Representative
[1:29:51] Garcia, they do have different
[1:29:53] locations where they move
[1:29:54] throughout the city the city
[1:29:57] does do the camp cleanups
[1:30:00] they clean them up and they're
[1:30:01] back in those locations probably
[1:30:03] within a couple of weeks
[1:30:06] we do have a an independent
[1:30:07] shelter and a shelter at NI
[1:30:12] part of our population about43%
[1:30:16] of those are intakes for shelter
[1:30:18] so we do have that and then the
[1:30:20] independent livinggrame where
[1:30:22] they can come stay leave their
[1:30:24] stuff we do personal
[1:30:27] improvement plan with them we
[1:30:28] have them see a counselor and
[1:30:31] then we have them attend groups
[1:30:33] and then we even just got
[1:30:34] bikes recently so they can go
[1:30:36] look for
[1:30:38] so we have different shelter
[1:30:40] components in NCI
[1:30:44] I see that between December
[1:30:49] 22 and February 28h of this past
[1:30:50] year you have had 2971
[1:30:54] intakes but you were only 636
[1:30:59] were able to receive services
[1:31:02] and be able to utilize the
[1:31:05] warming center so looking at
[1:31:08] that on a yearround basis that
[1:31:10] would really probably triple it
[1:31:13] even more
[1:31:14] people that would be seeking
[1:31:16] services are just be just
[1:31:20] unhouse in the area what is the
[1:31:23] city doing to address that
[1:31:26] madam chairirpresentative Garcia
[1:31:28] we did see a decrease in our
[1:31:30] shelter population at NCI so we
[1:31:34] and we saw the increase at the
[1:31:36] warming shelter the warming
[1:31:38] shelter had
[1:31:38] more relaxed rules whereas
[1:31:42] the detox center it's a a little
[1:31:44] more strict so we've seen that
[1:31:46] population just go to the
[1:31:47] the warming
[1:31:52] I guess my my question is ok we
[1:31:54] have a number of individuals
[1:31:57] that are on house they they're
[1:32:00] here where everybody sees that
[1:32:02] what is the city doing besides
[1:32:04] doing the warming center center
[1:32:07] are depending on NCI what what
[1:32:10] are we doing to to assist and
[1:32:13] any programs anything that's
[1:32:17] being planned for them
[1:32:21] madam chairir Representative
[1:32:24] Garcia like again we're doing
[1:32:24] our our outreach where we're
[1:32:27] trying to make contact with them
[1:32:28] to to get to the root of the
[1:32:31] issues and refer them to
[1:32:33] agencies or programs that
[1:32:36] that will help them but
[1:32:39] again, a lot of these people
[1:32:41] don't want to go to the warming
[1:32:42] center
[1:32:43] because
[1:32:44] they cannot be using alcohol or
[1:32:46] drugs while in the warming
[1:32:48] center
[1:32:50] they don't want to go to NCI
[1:32:52] because if they are intoxicated
[1:32:55] and they have multiple they're
[1:32:57] having to spend longer time
[1:32:59] there and they don't want to
[1:33:00] they went out the next day
[1:33:02] they're looking for their next
[1:33:03] day's fix I hate to say
[1:33:05] so so we have a lot of these
[1:33:07] that are making a choice
[1:33:08] to be unhoused they're making
[1:33:11] that choice we can offer them
[1:33:13] services
[1:33:13] but
[1:33:15] again those services are clean
[1:33:18] to be clean to be getting help
[1:33:21] and and if they don't want that
[1:33:22] they
[1:33:24] they they're gonna live in the
[1:33:28] ditch they would prefer to live
[1:33:29] in the ditch they would be live
[1:33:31] on the side of a somebody's
[1:33:33] house those type of things
[1:33:35] they are adding a huge cost to
[1:33:39] our homeowners and business
[1:33:41] owners because if they're on
[1:33:43] private land state of New Mexico
[1:33:45] inki donations we cannot clean
[1:33:46] up
[1:33:47] if it's private land. So if they
[1:33:49] choose a a portion of a ditch
[1:33:51] that
[1:33:52] is in a business property we
[1:33:55] can't clean it up. law
[1:33:56] enforcement can move them along
[1:33:58] but we can't come in and clean
[1:33:59] it up. it it's a high expense. I
[1:34:02] will say a lot of programs are
[1:34:03] trying to help feed
[1:34:06] they are coming in we have a
[1:34:08] number of projects that that
[1:34:10] feed on a daily basis different
[1:34:12] areas of town and and then we
[1:34:14] have a couple of others that
[1:34:15] provide showers stuff like that
[1:34:17] we're just hoping they're doing
[1:34:18] those intakes and offering the
[1:34:20] help
[1:34:21] not just we feel good we fed you
[1:34:24] but more we're trying to guild
[1:34:25] your trust to get you into a
[1:34:27] program
[1:34:28] thank you for that information
[1:34:31] and madam chair my last
[1:34:33] question would be about the
[1:34:38] because I've I've I I'm aware
[1:34:40] of this experience the city
[1:34:43] employees or anyone that
[1:34:45] deals with the population
[1:34:48] that is unhoused or better known
[1:34:51] as homeless
[1:34:54] they come here and they you know
[1:34:54] they
[1:34:55] they are here because of their
[1:35:01] own problems issues whatever
[1:35:03] their they're here and working
[1:35:05] with one another and what are
[1:35:08] we
[1:35:09] doing any kind of training for
[1:35:12] these employees so they are
[1:35:14] sensitive to the situation and
[1:35:17] and they're not prejudiced
[1:35:19] against them and do what they
[1:35:21] can to help help them when
[1:35:25] when it comes to that do they
[1:35:29] receive specialized training
[1:35:31] to prevent discrimination or any
[1:35:35] kind of treatment for these
[1:35:39] individual I know it's really
[1:35:39] hard to
[1:35:40] tolerate and and deal with a
[1:35:43] situation
[1:35:46] because it's individual
[1:35:48] choices that have been made but
[1:35:50] they're still here and
[1:35:52] they're still part of become
[1:35:54] part of our community while back
[1:35:56] a while ago you said that even
[1:35:58] though the chapters south are
[1:36:01] not part of members of gallup
[1:36:04] but remember I come in about
[1:36:06] every week to pick up hay to
[1:36:10] pick up food and I become a
[1:36:12] member of gallup and contribute
[1:36:14] to to gallup
[1:36:15] ll up in whatever way possible
[1:36:17] even though I live in Ceepola
[1:36:19] County so based on that I
[1:36:23] just want to make sure that
[1:36:26] our people whoever they are re
[1:36:30] whether they'renavajozunni
[1:36:33] non natives that they receive a
[1:36:37] fair treatment and and not
[1:36:38] make fun of that's where I'm
[1:36:41] coming from
[1:36:44] madam chairir Representative
[1:36:45] Garcia we do have a grow our own
[1:36:47] program where we bring in
[1:36:49] counselors and we coach
[1:36:51] individuals into thehavi health
[1:36:53] field and then we take them out
[1:36:54] to do outreach and coach them
[1:36:56] how to interact we provide
[1:36:58] trauma informed care and we also
[1:37:00] have our evaluator come in and
[1:37:03] do a random fidelity checks with
[1:37:05] our groups our counselors and
[1:37:08] then we have them meet with
[1:37:09] young shelter to make sure that
[1:37:11] we are we are provi
[1:37:24] So I hope that it the
[1:37:27] training and working with these
[1:37:31] individuals goes all the way up
[1:37:33] and down from the mayor on down
[1:37:35] that that we do everything we
[1:37:38] can help because we we are
[1:37:41] responsible to our communities
[1:37:43] and our people
[1:37:47] thank you representative vice
[1:37:50] chairir Johnson
[1:37:51] thank you madam chairir. I would
[1:37:54] like to go back well let's go
[1:37:56] ahead and continue with the
[1:37:58] emergency warming center. do you
[1:38:01] have a cost a cost estimate
[1:38:04] or who took care of
[1:38:05] funding that program
[1:38:08] or how how did we fund it? Madam
[1:38:09] Chair Representative Johnson
[1:38:11] workforcelu
[1:38:13] gave us175,000
[1:38:16] I can say that was not enough a
[1:38:19] lot of these programs
[1:38:20] donated a lot
[1:38:25] Thank you and then
[1:38:27] can you give us an update on
[1:38:30] if any or
[1:38:34] for example, Navajo Nation or
[1:38:37] our surrounding neighbors
[1:38:41] tribal communities pueblo
[1:38:46] interest or assistance or
[1:38:48] support from them regarding
[1:38:50] this program and then I lost
[1:38:56] track of how we support NCI
[1:38:58] Thank you.
[1:38:59] madam chairirpresentative
[1:39:03] Johnson we received2 million
[1:39:03] dollars from IHs
[1:39:05] and that funds the majority
[1:39:07] operations of the detox center.
[1:39:09] We also receive 835,000 from the
[1:39:13] local liquor excise tax to fund
[1:39:15] the base services at NCI.
[1:39:18] and madam chairir
[1:39:22] senator, I mean
[1:39:23] senatorpresentative Johnson
[1:39:25] to expand that to we've we've
[1:39:27] just begun talks the mayor did
[1:39:28] talk with Presidentyren.
[1:39:31] he was very receptive and and
[1:39:33] looking at opening their
[1:39:35] treatment facility in Phoenix
[1:39:37] and and creating that type of
[1:39:38] part partnership
[1:39:40] council delegate
[1:39:41] Eray.
[1:39:43] Nelson if I remember right it
[1:39:46] has has actually talked with me
[1:39:48] and said you know these are our
[1:39:49] family members going to town.
[1:39:51] What help do they need to bring
[1:39:54] him home and and why aren't they
[1:39:54] being accepted at home was his
[1:39:56] biggest concern
[1:39:58] so so we are starting to see
[1:40:00] some threads starting to weave
[1:40:02] together of how can we work
[1:40:04] together it's slow and and and
[1:40:06] we'd love to see it getting
[1:40:08] deeper thicker thicker
[1:40:10] woven to where we're all
[1:40:13] working towards the same thing
[1:40:15] cause yes they are coming from
[1:40:16] surrounding areas like
[1:40:18] Representative Garcia said but
[1:40:20] we consider us all
[1:40:22] from the same area so however
[1:40:25] we can work with these other
[1:40:27] legislative bodies. I mean
[1:40:32] sovereign sovereignty to to
[1:40:32] other groups and other areas we
[1:40:35] we would love to to come
[1:40:36] together
[1:40:37] so madam vice chair and
[1:40:39] so I just recently last week
[1:40:43] went through because with a a
[1:40:46] company or
[1:40:47] the behavioral health people
[1:40:50] that working that are working
[1:40:52] with thenavajo nation that do
[1:40:53] have a contract with the Navajo
[1:40:54] Nation now operating in arizona
[1:40:57] so it's trying to bring them
[1:40:58] here to New Mexico so that was
[1:41:00] just beginning discussions just
[1:41:02] had a real good meeting last
[1:41:04] week a lot a lot
[1:41:07] to do that we don't have but
[1:41:11] I do caution to that they they
[1:41:13] do have like veterans facilities
[1:41:15] too and all kinds of
[1:41:17] but we'll talk more about that
[1:41:18] but there there is something
[1:41:19] going on right now
[1:41:23] OK thank you. I I was wondering
[1:41:24] maybe we could entertain if we
[1:41:26] don't already have a
[1:41:30] multidisciplinary team or group
[1:41:31] or committee within our
[1:41:33] county or city and the reason
[1:41:36] why I say that is because I work
[1:41:39] at the hospital and we have the
[1:41:41] same types of
[1:41:43] patients constituents
[1:41:47] individuals some of them driving
[1:41:49] across the state one way or the
[1:41:52] other getting stranded after an
[1:41:55] emergency room treatment
[1:41:57] our own folks having no place to
[1:42:00] go after discharge, having no
[1:42:02] transportation after discharge
[1:42:04] and then our referrals are NCI
[1:42:08] and you know where else wherever
[1:42:09] else we can find help even
[1:42:13] having to call the chaptershojo
[1:42:18] so just the thought and then
[1:42:20] my other question is about
[1:42:23] the water line
[1:42:25] I represent Eastern Agency so
[1:42:28] the water line from standingRock
[1:42:32] to Crown Point and that reach I
[1:42:35] am advocating for. I understand
[1:42:37] there's a10 million dollars
[1:42:38] shortfall? do you know anything
[1:42:41] about that or the specifics?
[1:42:43] Thank you.
[1:42:46] madam chairir Representative
[1:42:48] Johnson, I'm not too sure
[1:42:49] exactly what the10 million
[1:42:50] dollars is. I know there's a
[1:42:52] bunch of different
[1:42:54] projects that came out of that
[1:42:56] main line that went from that
[1:42:57] went along the was that 99
[1:43:02] they're and it might be
[1:43:02] something that they're they're
[1:43:04] gonna try to get state funding
[1:43:05] for and it might be just
[1:43:06] tributary off the main line but
[1:43:08] I'm not too aware I know the
[1:43:10] whole project has about a500
[1:43:11] million dollars shortfall right
[1:43:13] now which Frank talked about
[1:43:15] which needs and it's and and it
[1:43:16] might be included in that
[1:43:19] thank you
[1:43:20] and just want to thank you
[1:43:22] for your presentation and you
[1:43:24] know as well as I do that
[1:43:26] water lines to our homes is very
[1:43:28] important. I have both
[1:43:30] experiences. I live in the city
[1:43:32] of Gallup but I also have a
[1:43:35] homestead about 20 miles
[1:43:36] northeast of here and
[1:43:38] I had an incident hauling water
[1:43:41] for my trees so
[1:43:49] re s ent ed thank you madam
[1:43:50] chairir.
[1:43:51] thank you madam vice chair.
[1:43:54] Representative roybalcaballero
[1:43:56] thank you madam chair and thank
[1:43:58] you for your presentations. I
[1:44:00] thank you topresentative Garcia
[1:44:02] and others for raising their
[1:44:04] questions because they covered
[1:44:05] most of what I wanted. So I'm
[1:44:07] going to zero in on just a few
[1:44:08] things
[1:44:10] in terms of the intake and I'm
[1:44:12] raising these questions because
[1:44:14] I
[1:44:15] in my previous career I'm
[1:44:18] clinical social worker dealing
[1:44:20] with substance and alcohol abuse
[1:44:22] individuals and families
[1:44:24] needs and so it's important to
[1:44:27] me to get these type of
[1:44:28] questions out. so in the intake
[1:44:31] process and the only information
[1:44:33] I have is relevant to what you
[1:44:34] passed out here in terms of the
[1:44:36] emergency warming center when
[1:44:39] intake and it applies to NCI and
[1:44:43] wherever else intake is done
[1:44:46] what is the professional
[1:44:48] preparation of the persons that
[1:44:50] are doing the intake.
[1:44:52] that's question one
[1:44:55] madam chairirpresentative
[1:45:01] roybalcaballero sorry
[1:45:04] when we did the the emergency
[1:45:07] shelter Gallllupunity Health had
[1:45:07] a one on one training and all
[1:45:09] day training and they did
[1:45:12] hire people who had shelter
[1:45:13] experience and worked with
[1:45:16] the unsheltered one of them did
[1:45:19] the burrito project who was the
[1:45:20] manager who holds
[1:45:22] Monthly events for the
[1:45:26] unsheltered and offers them
[1:45:27] showers and things like that so
[1:45:29] a lot of the the individuals who
[1:45:31] were hired had training or
[1:45:33] experience within that and then
[1:45:36] our intake process this was a
[1:45:38] little different
[1:45:41] we didn't have it so much
[1:45:42] clinical at the emergency
[1:45:43] warming shelter but at the the
[1:45:46] detox center we do have a
[1:45:48] counselor who does the expert
[1:45:50] screening with them and then we
[1:45:51] try and get them into treatment
[1:45:53] once they're discharged the
[1:45:55] numbers that were given within
[1:45:56] those 1000 we're only with the
[1:46:00] twelvehour holds that are
[1:46:01] discharged
[1:46:02] Monday through Friday.
[1:46:05] thank you so madam chair the the
[1:46:07] whole point about intake in
[1:46:09] general just the intake in
[1:46:10] general and why the preparation
[1:46:12] of those that are taking intake
[1:46:14] is so critically important is
[1:46:16] based on all the issues that you
[1:46:18] all described madam chairir. and
[1:46:20] that is that we have
[1:46:22] individuals that
[1:46:23] alcohol substance abuse
[1:46:29] mental health, s possible
[1:46:31] medical issues as well and so
[1:46:34] the intake process is not just a
[1:46:36] process of taking an application
[1:46:38] or interviewing it's a what I
[1:46:42] would view an indepth look at
[1:46:45] the person who's sitting in
[1:46:47] front of you in depth and
[1:46:49] looking at that person madam
[1:46:50] chair holistically to try to get
[1:46:53] to the root the whole idea for
[1:46:54] all of us
[1:46:55] is to get to the root causes of
[1:46:58] why we're seeing these kinds of
[1:47:00] symptoms and and reliance on
[1:47:06] or lack of reliance on on self
[1:47:10] so I I would stress that that
[1:47:12] the intake process in general
[1:47:16] where whether it's in the
[1:47:18] warming center or whether it's
[1:47:19] an NCI or wherever it happens it
[1:47:22] really is the place where you
[1:47:23] have the actual professional
[1:47:26] preparation and you you have a
[1:47:29] lot of resources here or in
[1:47:32] the neighboring areas with
[1:47:33] universities I know that
[1:47:36] there's student interns work
[1:47:39] work experience that are already
[1:47:42] in their3rd and4th year those
[1:47:44] are perfect places for this
[1:47:47] placements intake. So I would
[1:47:52] just
[1:47:53] I think we're all trying to get
[1:47:54] at a comprehensive approach to
[1:47:56] try to resolve these problems.
[1:47:59] and aspresentative Garcia
[1:48:00] mentioned we have an obligation
[1:48:03] these are our people we have
[1:48:05] an obligation to make sure we do
[1:48:06] this so we don't want madam
[1:48:09] chairir individuals a revolving
[1:48:10] door we want
[1:48:12] an end to this and so how we get
[1:48:16] to that is by trying to look at
[1:48:18] the whole person, the whole
[1:48:20] family and then try to reach the
[1:48:23] root causes so that
[1:48:25] it was mentioned several times
[1:48:29] that that the these are
[1:48:32] choices that are being made by
[1:48:35] these individuals to go back
[1:48:37] to the
[1:48:39] it
[1:48:42] it's not necessarily a choice
[1:48:45] it's how they see themselves
[1:48:47] relative to society in general
[1:48:51] and there's no place for these
[1:48:52] persons. there's no place there
[1:48:55] there and so there's a reason
[1:48:58] why
[1:48:58] we use different terminology
[1:49:02] we're moving away from
[1:49:03] homelessness we're now trying to
[1:49:04] move away from unhoused in the
[1:49:07] arena of social work and
[1:49:09] casework because
[1:49:10] we we can't take an attitude
[1:49:16] or perspective or
[1:49:17] or a prejudice in any form or
[1:49:22] fashion and then
[1:49:24] by by stating that it's their
[1:49:27] choice. Yes, they may go back
[1:49:30] but there's a reason why they're
[1:49:31] going back
[1:49:33] and I I would strongly
[1:49:35] look at taking a comprehensive
[1:49:38] approach one stop, share the
[1:49:41] resources that are available
[1:49:42] under one roof and then be able
[1:49:45] to address those needs
[1:49:47] uhpresentative vice chairir
[1:49:48] Johnson mentioned the medical
[1:49:50] the hospital there's medical
[1:49:52] institutions here they need
[1:49:54] to be
[1:49:55] involved because we don't we
[1:49:58] don't know what the medical, uh,
[1:50:00] wellbeing of that person is or
[1:50:01] or the family or the children so
[1:50:04] I I just encourage you to kind
[1:50:07] of move away from
[1:50:10] treating the intake process as
[1:50:13] just an filling out forms
[1:50:16] process and looking at it from a
[1:50:18] more indepth comprehensive
[1:50:20] way and that so one final
[1:50:23] question and you may not be able
[1:50:25] to answer that madam chairir
[1:50:26] right now but I'd like to
[1:50:29] know what the percentage all the
[1:50:31] funding that you mentioned that
[1:50:33] has been coming in either
[1:50:34] through the federal or however
[1:50:36] else the all the other funding
[1:50:38] what percentage goes directly to
[1:50:40] direct service and what
[1:50:41] percentage goes to
[1:50:42] administration. I know that
[1:50:44] there are limits by funding
[1:50:47] sources in terms of
[1:50:49] administration but I'd be
[1:50:51] curious to see how much is
[1:50:52] actually going into direct
[1:50:53] service and then the longevity
[1:50:56] of of the service you you
[1:51:01] kind of address it
[1:51:02] in just this warming center but
[1:51:06] I think in general it would
[1:51:08] help to be able to look at
[1:51:12] how long
[1:51:14] why they're not staying the
[1:51:16] questions should be asked why
[1:51:18] did they come to gallup in the
[1:51:19] first place
[1:51:21] and what are they seeking when
[1:51:24] and then
[1:51:25] a lot of questions there's a lot
[1:51:29] of questions we need to ask but
[1:51:31] anyway, madam chair if you
[1:51:34] can answer that right now that's
[1:51:35] fine. I don't want to take too
[1:51:36] much more time but if you can
[1:51:37] provide that to the film I mean
[1:51:39] to the committee that would be
[1:51:40] helpful. Thank you.
[1:51:42] madam chairir, umpresentativeRoy
[1:51:44] Ball umabbriero
[1:51:47] we didn't take any funding from
[1:51:50] the emergency shelter that went
[1:51:52] all directly this was a pilot
[1:51:54] project and we wanted to have it
[1:51:56] low barrier so that included
[1:51:58] not as many questions during the
[1:52:01] intake process because we didn't
[1:52:02] want to screen anybody out at
[1:52:04] the beginning and then for the
[1:52:06] other funding the IHS funding
[1:52:10] it funds my salary and another
[1:52:11] employee and we go I'm the
[1:52:14] program manager and we only have
[1:52:15] two staff in our behavioral
[1:52:16] health to imp
[1:52:19] le ment the services that
[1:52:20] detox the rest is contracted it
[1:52:21] out.
[1:52:22] thank you madam chairir and
[1:52:24] and so there's no other intake
[1:52:27] process that occurs outside of
[1:52:30] the warming center
[1:52:31] don't you have an intake process
[1:52:32] at NTI also madam chairir yes
[1:52:35] that's different with a a
[1:52:38] licensed counselor OK thank you
[1:52:39] madam chair thank you
[1:52:40] thank you thank youpresentative
[1:52:43] um'm very excited to have the
[1:52:45] people I talked to talk to you
[1:52:46] guys because they take care of
[1:52:48] everything from the intake all
[1:52:50] the way to the resources it's
[1:52:51] just really dynamic even the
[1:52:54] court orders it was very very
[1:52:56] ' m very jealous but senator
[1:53:00] Charlie
[1:53:02] thank you madam chair and thank
[1:53:03] you presenters for being here
[1:53:05] this morning and for the work
[1:53:06] you're doing to take care of
[1:53:07] your community. the first
[1:53:09] question I had was of the
[1:53:11] clients who came into the
[1:53:13] worming center were any of those
[1:53:14] children?
[1:53:19] Madam chair on the corner we
[1:53:21] had
[1:53:28] six families and18 adults thank
[1:53:28] you thank you
[1:53:30] and then it was mentioned
[1:53:31] earlier that graduates of the
[1:53:34] detox program weren't able to go
[1:53:37] home because of cost two part
[1:53:38] question is is there a
[1:53:40] willingness to go home to
[1:53:41] participants want to go home and
[1:53:43] is it just is it a a barrier is
[1:53:46] it a cost barrier to get them
[1:53:48] home if
[1:53:51] madam chair senator umarrlie
[1:53:55] a lot of these individuals have
[1:53:56] family dynamics where they've
[1:54:00] drank a lot and the family
[1:54:01] doesn't want him home so it's
[1:54:04] about building those bridges
[1:54:06] we've had instances where
[1:54:08] people want bus pass we do offer
[1:54:10] them bus passes if they want to
[1:54:12] go home and we offer them the
[1:54:14] ability to call their family
[1:54:17] to let them know they're at
[1:54:18] detox. Most don't take them
[1:54:20] up on that offer and if they
[1:54:23] do not live in
[1:54:24] gallup we do offer them a bus
[1:54:26] pass or train ticket if they
[1:54:30] want to return home. OK thank
[1:54:30] you and then the next question
[1:54:32] is about your last slide here
[1:54:33] the NCI intake the breakdown
[1:54:37] of numbers doesn't tell me how
[1:54:40] many participants that is is
[1:54:41] that the total 2971 or is that a
[1:54:44] different total?
[1:54:47] the total on that is1006
[1:54:52] this is for NCI not for the
[1:54:53] warming clinic and this is only
[1:54:55] for the tw2 hour hold. so those
[1:54:58] individuals that came in they
[1:55:00] blew a.20 1 zeroed out we
[1:55:04] have to meet with a counselor
[1:55:05] offer them services if they're
[1:55:07] interested in treatment we do a
[1:55:09] warm handoff to four corners or
[1:55:11] even Albuquerque, Las Cruces
[1:55:13] wherever they want to go and we
[1:55:15] coordinate with medicaid to do
[1:55:17] transport. thank you and then
[1:55:19] I didn't get a comprehensive
[1:55:20] picture
[1:55:21] of the total cost. there's
[1:55:24] not a budget associated with the
[1:55:25] emergency warming center is
[1:55:27] it175,000 plus inkind donations
[1:55:29] repres us
[1:55:33] madam chair senator Charlie yes
[1:55:36] and do you have a breakdown of
[1:55:37] what those inkind donation
[1:55:38] totals are
[1:55:40] I don't
[1:55:42] in thinking about a potential
[1:55:44] fiscal agent that those are the
[1:55:46] questions that I'm thinking
[1:55:47] about right who can sustain a
[1:55:49] program of this budget. I mean
[1:55:51] you've said that the city would
[1:55:52] be willing to be a fiscal agent.
[1:55:54] do you have potential entities
[1:55:57] ready to step in and continue
[1:55:59] the program?
[1:56:04] Gallllupun madam chairir,
[1:56:06] Senator Charlie Gel Community
[1:56:06] Health has shared interest with
[1:56:09] wanting to continue they
[1:56:10] actually wanted to do a cooling
[1:56:11] center this summer just
[1:56:13] it got cool before we got to it
[1:56:16] it's it's already getting nippy
[1:56:18] falls falls here so so we've
[1:56:21] already got Gallup Community
[1:56:22] Health and and several other
[1:56:23] entities wanting to again it
[1:56:27] comes down to having the
[1:56:30] backbone which came from
[1:56:32] that175,000
[1:56:36] something like that to to get it
[1:56:38] going and then they're in income
[1:56:39] can sustain for a short period
[1:56:42] of time but without the infuse
[1:56:44] of that original money
[1:56:46] not even the city of Gallup
[1:56:48] has the the capacity right now.
[1:56:50] Sure thank you madam Chair.
[1:56:52] so this it sounded like it was
[1:56:53] an emergency grant. are there
[1:56:55] funds available? Are you working
[1:56:57] with the
[1:57:01] allocations through Senate Bill3
[1:57:03] or other potential funding
[1:57:10] madam chair senator Charlie
[1:57:13] we do have a housing program
[1:57:15] manager and since then I've kind
[1:57:17] of kicked that off because
[1:57:17] housing's not my
[1:57:19] my specialty but I know that
[1:57:23] we did talk to workforce
[1:57:24] Solutions about putting out a
[1:57:27] grant instead of giving it to
[1:57:29] a municipality and letting other
[1:57:32] individuals apply so they can
[1:57:34] assess their own costs and needs
[1:57:36] associated with the warming
[1:57:38] shelters and I know there was an
[1:57:40] RFP but I'm not sure if anybody
[1:57:42] applied for it locally
[1:57:45] thank you madam chairir. I don't
[1:57:46] know if you could do it less
[1:57:47] expensive than175,000 dollars
[1:57:50] quite honestly for that amount
[1:57:52] of time that's about50,000
[1:57:53] dollars a month which is for the
[1:57:55] the amount of individuals that
[1:57:57] you're interacting with. I
[1:57:59] don't know if that's possible
[1:58:01] but
[1:58:01] thank you that that concludes my
[1:58:04] my questions madam chairir I'll
[1:58:06] just say this one last thing I
[1:58:07] read an interesting article
[1:58:08] recently about harm reduction
[1:58:10] policies and how major
[1:58:15] metropolitan areas are rolling
[1:58:16] back their harm reduction
[1:58:17] policies but also to include
[1:58:20] mandatory treatment for the
[1:58:23] reasons that were mentioned and
[1:58:24] when mandatory treatment is
[1:58:26] required of those individuals
[1:58:29] who come into contact with the
[1:58:31] system recidivism
[1:58:32] decreases and so I think it's an
[1:58:34] interesting intersection for
[1:58:37] us to explore while we're making
[1:58:40] decisions about treatment
[1:58:42] facilities into the future.
[1:58:44] thank you madam chairir.
[1:58:46] and I would like to mention that
[1:58:47] these guys actually do the
[1:58:49] workforce development when they
[1:58:51] do the intake right when the
[1:58:52] people are in the program like
[1:58:53] as soon as they can handle it
[1:58:55] and get them going so it's not
[1:58:57] till after they
[1:59:00] ter ing
[1:59:04] p re s ent ative Abeda, thank
[1:59:04] you Senator Charlie.
[1:59:05] thank you thank you presenters
[1:59:07] and senator Charlie you lead me
[1:59:09] right into my questions
[1:59:10] beautifully thank you in regards
[1:59:12] to the mandatory treatment for
[1:59:14] both NCI or excuse me the
[1:59:16] nonmandatory treatment for NCI
[1:59:18] are you keeping any
[1:59:20] information about tribal court
[1:59:22] versus non tribal court?
[1:59:26] madam chair umre representative
[1:59:31] Abeda we just keep the
[1:59:32] commitment where they're
[1:59:32] committed from so only a law
[1:59:35] enforcement officer and a
[1:59:36] medical provider can commit him
[1:59:38] into NCI and we do have that
[1:59:40] data. Great OK. where are you
[1:59:42] seeing more of the commitments
[1:59:44] coming from
[1:59:47] umgpd I think it's 95% are
[1:59:49] coming from Galluplice
[1:59:55] I can get you that exact
[1:59:57] breakdown
[2:00:00] OK thank you madam chair thank
[2:00:00] you presenters. The reason
[2:00:02] why I ask is I agree with
[2:00:04] Senator Charlie in the article
[2:00:05] written that mandatory treatment
[2:00:06] does have an impact and it does
[2:00:08] help. but I wanted to see if
[2:00:11] that was if we were seeing
[2:00:13] mandatory treatment commitments
[2:00:15] from tribal courts as well
[2:00:17] because for my experience that
[2:00:21] NCI is one of the only local
[2:00:23] places that they can
[2:00:30] do not go to NCI then they're
[2:00:33] sent out of state they're sent
[2:00:34] to facilities that are much
[2:00:36] further
[2:00:39] u ll recovery because the
[2:00:42] curriculum's either not
[2:00:42] culturally responsive to them or
[2:00:45] just the distance alone and
[2:00:47] then coming back into the same
[2:00:49] environment that coping
[2:00:50] mechanisms are just not there.
[2:00:52] So I want I would love to see
[2:00:54] those two issues because my I
[2:00:57] am moving towards more
[2:00:59] collaboration with courts and
[2:01:03] also the law school about
[2:01:05] addressing needs for our legal
[2:01:08] desert in
[2:01:08] this is Albuquerque west all the
[2:01:15] the next question I had was
[2:01:17] in the in the curriculum I know
[2:01:20] you said that they go through a
[2:01:22] program that they can finish. Do
[2:01:23] you know if there's a life
[2:01:24] skills component in that
[2:01:26] curriculum and the life skills
[2:01:27] component would be how to find a
[2:01:30] home or building a resume job
[2:01:32] application or having a support
[2:01:35] for
[2:01:35] relapse prevention is that part
[2:01:39] of the curriculum
[2:01:42] madam chairirpresentative Obea
[2:01:45] we do have people come into
[2:01:46] NCI and do groups from
[2:01:49] umorkforce solutions that they
[2:01:51] do provide the job
[2:01:54] application a lot of these
[2:01:54] people are just coming off of
[2:01:56] having abAc of.20 so we have to
[2:02:00] repeat those and and work slowly
[2:02:04] with this population because a
[2:02:06] lot of them have been unhoused
[2:02:08] and unsheltered for a while
[2:02:11] we've had
[2:02:12] in the independent living we've
[2:02:13] had success with working with
[2:02:15] them to get jobs and then
[2:02:17] providing the bikes to get to
[2:02:20] employment it takes some time
[2:02:23] to get him into a routine
[2:02:25] because we do give them chores
[2:02:26] we kind of have like a house
[2:02:28] manager within that shelter and
[2:02:29] they all take turns it's it's
[2:02:32] been really nice to see and
[2:02:34] we're looking at implementing a
[2:02:36] a contingency management program
[2:02:38] where we increase the rewards
[2:02:40] for the positive behavior
[2:02:42] so we don't have that
[2:02:44] necessarily
[2:02:45] curriculum of life skills but we
[2:02:49] have them work with a peer
[2:02:50] support to guide them through a
[2:02:51] lot of this.
[2:02:53] thank you madam chair thank you
[2:02:55] my last question is about
[2:02:57] family support I've been on
[2:02:59] the side of family where you are
[2:03:02] helpless, hopeless about how you
[2:03:05] can support your loved one. a
[2:03:07] lot of times we've heard it on
[2:03:08] this committee that when you
[2:03:09] come into gallup you see our
[2:03:12] relatives on the streets you see
[2:03:13] them in certain areas you can't
[2:03:15] help but wonder where is their
[2:03:16] family
[2:03:19] but is there a service or is
[2:03:20] there a resource is there a
[2:03:22] hotline? what do we have for
[2:03:23] families and I ask this too
[2:03:25] because so often even in my
[2:03:27] home community when I ask
[2:03:29] students or kids from the
[2:03:31] neighborhood, you know where's
[2:03:32] your mom? how's your mom? how's
[2:03:33] your dad? how's your uncle
[2:03:35] they haven't been home they're
[2:03:36] on the streets and so the
[2:03:38] kids worry just as much for
[2:03:40] their relatives that are out
[2:03:41] there grandma's grandpa's
[2:03:43] worry about their children their
[2:03:45] nephews their nieces their
[2:03:46] grandchildren who are out there.
[2:03:48] do we have a resource set up to
[2:03:49] help families who are going
[2:03:51] through this and if if not what
[2:03:53] are your thoughts on that?
[2:03:55] madam chairirpresentative Abeda,
[2:03:58] that is a huge need in our
[2:03:59] community we do offer them the
[2:04:02] right to call and connect with
[2:04:04] their family member if that's
[2:04:05] what they choose and we are
[2:04:07] willing to do counseling
[2:04:08] sessions with the family we just
[2:04:10] haven't had any one take us up
[2:04:13] on that and probably a couple of
[2:04:14] years
[2:04:15] but it is well needed
[2:04:21] OK thank you that's madam chair
[2:04:22] and Councilor Bata one of the
[2:04:22] problems we do have to in gallup
[2:04:24] we have mothers grandmothers
[2:04:25] coming
[2:04:25] to visiting me as the mayor and
[2:04:27] say my 12 year old
[2:04:28] is on cannabis
[2:04:31] and we can't we don't know what
[2:04:33] to do and that's one of the
[2:04:34] problems we need to start
[2:04:35] looking into is those gateway
[2:04:36] drugs I don't know if they call
[2:04:38] it a gateway drug but when these
[2:04:39] young kids10,111el years old are
[2:04:41] doing our vaping cannabis you
[2:04:42] can't tell it you it's it's not
[2:04:44] visible and we're gonna have to
[2:04:46] start addressing that really
[2:04:47] soon because I think that's
[2:04:49] the gateway that's starting the
[2:04:50] problems
[2:04:55] OK
[2:04:57] we know that and we thank you
[2:04:59] very much
[2:05:01] the place I visited was the yeah
[2:05:04] this condehohoienter in Phoenix,
[2:05:06] Arizona
[2:05:07] and everything you're talking
[2:05:08] about all these
[2:05:11] I mean you needing somebody to
[2:05:12] do this you're talking about the
[2:05:13] curriculum the intake they
[2:05:16] handle all of it closed loop
[2:05:17] system with resources and so
[2:05:19] they have a better idea of what
[2:05:21] we're spending on on it in
[2:05:24] that whole loop so I'm very very
[2:05:26] excited to to introduce them to
[2:05:29] you and get them going here in
[2:05:31] New Mexico just to build the
[2:05:33] foundation that is very it
[2:05:36] just really blew my mind how
[2:05:38] much they really listened to the
[2:05:40] community of the
[2:05:41] people that were coming in and
[2:05:42] the barriers that were there I
[2:05:44] understand we still have a
[2:05:45] barrier with transportation of
[2:05:47] getting them there to the
[2:05:49] treatment center especially when
[2:05:50] you talk about tribal court
[2:05:52] so we're talking about hubs
[2:05:53] within the Navajo nation where
[2:05:56] we're because we see this with
[2:05:58] the MMIP is that they say I'm
[2:06:00] gonna go get treatment they
[2:06:01] leave here
[2:06:02] then they don't make it there
[2:06:04] so like we need you to take
[2:06:05] place for them to go see well
[2:06:07] and want treatment get them to a
[2:06:08] safe place here maybe the
[2:06:09] chapter and then actually have
[2:06:11] that transportation safely down
[2:06:13] there so we do know where where
[2:06:15] that they did get there and
[2:06:16] handling the intake really
[2:06:18] knowing caseworkers are there
[2:06:19] all under one roof. it is just
[2:06:22] very
[2:06:22] they're doing well and hoping
[2:06:25] we're really getting ready to do
[2:06:27] something here in Albuquerque
[2:06:28] very quickly as they have talked
[2:06:29] to Albuquerque already so very
[2:06:31] been excited to have bring them
[2:06:34] to see talk to you ma'am where
[2:06:35] is it located in phoenix? It is
[2:06:38] I don't know. I went to probably
[2:06:41] 6 different facilities within a
[2:06:43] day and a half so there's more
[2:06:45] than one they had the veterans
[2:06:47] outreach and then they had
[2:06:50] housing they had 200 units for
[2:06:51] veterans down there in which
[2:06:53] they I was just really blown
[2:06:55] away about how many units they
[2:06:56] have and even getting them
[2:06:58] through the 9ty day that they
[2:07:00] actually don't tell the person
[2:07:02] well we only can fund you for 60
[2:07:04] days or you're only here for30.
[2:07:05] They actually tried to make sure
[2:07:07] they're all the way for the
[2:07:08] night0 whatever's
[2:07:10] cut by medicaid or whatever
[2:07:12] nation takes care of the rest so
[2:07:14] I'm just really even the
[2:07:17] court ordered they have that
[2:07:19] whole judicial part too where
[2:07:20] they probation and
[2:07:24] reinvented or redid these
[2:07:27] buildings old hospitals senior
[2:07:30] centers and repurposed them and
[2:07:32] it really meant the needs of the
[2:07:33] area and even with our Navajo
[2:07:36] facility that'snavajo
[2:07:39] Nationowned has anavajo nation
[2:07:39] flag outside down there is
[2:07:41] pretty new and even with the
[2:07:44] hydration
[2:07:47] and all right there in that area
[2:07:52] and they provide transportation
[2:07:54] to the doctors and all that for
[2:07:56] the people that are in there so
[2:08:00] keep my fingers crossed that we
[2:08:01] get it going here you know yes
[2:08:05] madam chair'd like to go back to
[2:08:06] uhpresentative Betas
[2:08:09] on on the mandatory seeing very
[2:08:11] few of our judges
[2:08:12] require mandatory treatment
[2:08:14] unless they're dealing
[2:08:18] unless they're dealers
[2:08:20] if they're addicted and they're
[2:08:22] dealing drugs and they're being
[2:08:23] sentenced to prison or something
[2:08:25] like that then they're getting
[2:08:26] some rehab within that but just
[2:08:29] our common users in an
[2:08:33] example we we had a a person
[2:08:34] down on Cole Street
[2:08:34] heavily induced with drugs throw
[2:08:37] a rock through a local business
[2:08:38] window was caught, goes through
[2:08:41] the court and and a week later
[2:08:44] I'm I'm getting a call from here
[2:08:45] because he's in the back parking
[2:08:47] lot
[2:08:47] out of his mind
[2:08:52] nonresponsive they're
[2:08:53] they're they're already back on
[2:08:54] the street so so I don't see our
[2:08:55] courts here for people who are
[2:08:58] heavily are are former DA was
[2:09:02] they're not competent to stand
[2:09:03] trial
[2:09:06] so they're not even gonna press
[2:09:08] charges and get to the judge
[2:09:10] so so that is what we're seeing
[2:09:13] the noncompetency and if
[2:09:14] you're not competent you don't
[2:09:15] go to court you don't go to
[2:09:16] court you don't get committed
[2:09:18] we can refer and and try to
[2:09:21] get them to these these programs
[2:09:23] but then again if we're
[2:09:24] referring and we actually get
[2:09:26] them in the door have enough
[2:09:27] trust and get them in the door
[2:09:29] they're not staying
[2:09:31] they they might get through that
[2:09:32] initial detox
[2:09:33] and then I'm leaving there
[2:09:36] there's and there's nothing to
[2:09:37] stop them legally and and that's
[2:09:39] what we're running into. if
[2:09:40] I'm not mistaken arizona
[2:09:41] has a mandatory commitment
[2:09:44] I know the governor tried doing
[2:09:46] that in a special session a
[2:09:48] couple years ago I believe. She
[2:09:49] tried doing that here in New
[2:09:51] Mexico and Gallllup would be
[2:09:53] very favorable of that because
[2:09:55] our law enforcement know the
[2:09:57] repeat offenders
[2:09:59] they're at the point now they're
[2:10:00] throwing their hands up of why
[2:10:02] am I even picking him up
[2:10:04] they're frustrated you know we
[2:10:06] we we see it they're going to
[2:10:08] be right back on the street. Our
[2:10:10] businesses are our citizens are
[2:10:12] getting frustrated and that goes
[2:10:14] back to Representative Garcia's
[2:10:15] now the stereotype of we're
[2:10:18] throwing our hands up and we now
[2:10:20] we're reacting against the
[2:10:21] person
[2:10:22] versus against the disability.
[2:10:25] so if we can do some mandatory
[2:10:27] type thing where we can get them
[2:10:28] in the door
[2:10:29] and we can start getting them
[2:10:32] clean and and responsive and
[2:10:34] competent to accept
[2:10:36] the workforce the the the
[2:10:38] counseling the
[2:10:39] repairs with their family the
[2:10:42] housing all that whole circle
[2:10:46] that's needed not one component
[2:10:48] is going to cure anybody it's
[2:10:50] got to be a full component and
[2:10:52] and I'm speaking from not
[2:10:54] experience but but from my son I
[2:10:57] I I will say my my son went
[2:10:58] through a heavy addiction and
[2:10:59] and it took prison for him to
[2:11:02] get clean and that was a
[2:11:03] mandatory commitment because it
[2:11:05] was prison. It it wasn't I
[2:11:07] want to be there
[2:11:08] and and I'm happy to say two
[2:11:11] years
[2:11:11] that he's very involved with the
[2:11:15] community now and clean.
[2:11:17] and and a product productive
[2:11:18] citizen that's what we're
[2:11:20] looking for
[2:11:20] but but it has to be a mandatory
[2:11:23] and and I would rather see it
[2:11:24] mandatory to a treatment than
[2:11:26] mandatory to a prison.
[2:11:27] to be honest
[2:11:29] because because I will be honest
[2:11:31] with you there too.
[2:11:32] Dad it was easier for me to get
[2:11:34] drugs in prison than it was on
[2:11:36] the streets
[2:11:37] I will be blunt with that
[2:11:39] I think that's the other thing
[2:11:40] too with arizona is they have
[2:11:48] there were some questions about
[2:11:49] the economic development of the
[2:11:51] area of the industrial park
[2:11:52] because before I got here it is
[2:11:55] a whole conundrum with data
[2:11:58] centers
[2:12:01] but you get it very briefly
[2:12:03] madam chair we'd be happy to
[2:12:07] we we did have a brief
[2:12:08] interest from a data center
[2:12:10] coming in. there there was
[2:12:15] some discussions at this
[2:12:16] point they're not on the table.
[2:12:17] We we do have a manufacturing
[2:12:19] facility wanting to come in that
[2:12:21] is going to manufacture solar
[2:12:23] panels
[2:12:25] unfortunately he he talked in
[2:12:27] his in his
[2:12:27] portfolio he called it a data
[2:12:31] center, but I would like to call
[2:12:33] it an operating center it it
[2:12:35] it's it's it's the technological
[2:12:36] portion to control his machines
[2:12:38] we're not talking oracle Project
[2:12:41] Jupiter we're not talking big
[2:12:43] data center where we're housing
[2:12:44] and farming out stuff Ai we're
[2:12:47] we're talking
[2:12:47] to compete with the Chinese
[2:12:50] we're we're going to have to
[2:12:51] have some machines doing some of
[2:12:54] this intensive work. Well this
[2:12:56] is an operation center to run
[2:12:58] that so it's a data center to
[2:13:00] run his machines so we we have a
[2:13:03] big interest in a production
[2:13:05] facility of solar panels they
[2:13:08] want to go into making the glass
[2:13:10] making all they're heavily
[2:13:12] involved in a right now on
[2:13:14] providing solar and
[2:13:16] hydroelectric
[2:13:18] to a company there to a
[2:13:20] country not a company a country
[2:13:21] there and they want to produce
[2:13:22] them here they are going to need
[2:13:24] a lot of land to put solar
[2:13:26] panels up because we cannot
[2:13:27] supply them the electricity
[2:13:30] we just don't have enough we
[2:13:31] can't even buy enough into
[2:13:32] gallup to provide so they're
[2:13:34] gonna have to use a lot of the
[2:13:35] land for solar. there is a
[2:13:36] stereotype on water we have
[2:13:39] no agreements right now with
[2:13:40] them for water. there isn't
[2:13:41] interest to buy our treated
[2:13:43] affluent water
[2:13:44] which we have an abundance of
[2:13:46] because right now we put it in
[2:13:48] the Perco and it goes down
[2:13:50] river. it it's going into
[2:13:52] arizona so we would rather use
[2:13:54] that to a true purpose of of
[2:13:56] treating it and the logistics is
[2:14:00] there. they're going into an old
[2:14:01] car strip mine that used
[2:14:04] affluent water for dust control
[2:14:06] so that the the mechanisms
[2:14:08] they'll have to replace the
[2:14:09] pumps because they're old. The
[2:14:11] pumps the lines are there to get
[2:14:12] them the affluent water from our
[2:14:14] plant we
[2:14:14] have well over a million gallons
[2:14:16] a day that we can supply them
[2:14:18] sell them
[2:14:19] and and it was pledged to other
[2:14:22] companies in the past
[2:14:24] we felt we don't want to pledge
[2:14:26] it that way we would prefer him
[2:14:27] to go through the state leadA
[2:14:28] process
[2:14:29] through the local leader process
[2:14:31] to where if we're giving them a
[2:14:32] discount on that water it's
[2:14:33] through a process not a
[2:14:35] handshake deal of this is what
[2:14:37] you promised us but more of an
[2:14:38] economic deal
[2:14:39] this is to bring you in so we're
[2:14:41] if we're talking any type of
[2:14:42] freshwater
[2:14:45] it is for the restrooms for
[2:14:47] housing for kitchenettes
[2:14:49] just like we would supply to
[2:14:51] Walmart or any other business
[2:14:52] coming in water to operate for
[2:14:56] the public, not for the
[2:14:57] manufacturing. The only water we
[2:14:59] will pledge and haven't yet is a
[2:15:02] fluent water
[2:15:02] for their manufacturing
[2:15:05] thank you thank you for that
[2:15:06] clarification because they think
[2:15:07] there's a lot of companies in
[2:15:08] that misconception too when they
[2:15:10] say data center because that
[2:15:12] reliance on someone else
[2:15:14] housing your storage and all
[2:15:16] that seems to be
[2:15:18] it seems to be lower cost
[2:15:20] especially if even with energy I
[2:15:22] know some people on the
[2:15:24] hazardous materials so we talked
[2:15:26] about thes andRs the small
[2:15:27] nuclear reactors and uranium and
[2:15:30] energy
[2:15:31] because as far as I know I
[2:15:32] haven't had anybody kind of do
[2:15:34] any restrictions on water yet or
[2:15:37] do any restrictions on energy
[2:15:39] and how much we but we're
[2:15:41] consuming we're consuming a
[2:15:43] great amounts and it is it's
[2:15:46] there it's reality and some
[2:15:48] people are really fighting
[2:15:49] against thinking we're just
[2:15:50] gonna cut everything off by its
[2:15:51] like there has to be some
[2:15:53] compromise there because in
[2:15:54] order to have economic
[2:15:56] development there are some
[2:15:58] things that are necessary for
[2:16:01] some of these companies
[2:16:02] especially when you talk about
[2:16:03] trust and reliability and not
[2:16:05] even waiting for somebody else
[2:16:06] to do that for you relying on
[2:16:08] some other entity to come in if
[2:16:10] you can provide it all there. it
[2:16:12] is more I think advantageous for
[2:16:14] a company to come in but thank
[2:16:16] you for that clarification madam
[2:16:17] Jerem let you know we've been
[2:16:18] upfront and honest with this
[2:16:19] company. This is the only power
[2:16:21] we can provide you.
[2:16:23] this is all we can provide there
[2:16:24] all the rest must come from
[2:16:26] behind the meter and and that's
[2:16:27] why they're looking at
[2:16:28] purchasing more land for their
[2:16:30] solar to produce and such and
[2:16:32] and we've been very upfront with
[2:16:33] them on water
[2:16:35] you know they they were talking4
[2:16:36] or ive phases and we can
[2:16:38] probably get them enough
[2:16:38] affluent water for two phases so
[2:16:40] that's all they're looking at at
[2:16:41] this point until they can find
[2:16:43] other sources of water but we
[2:16:45] are not pledging our Navajo
[2:16:47] Gallup water supply project when
[2:16:48] it comes in our our public
[2:16:51] entity
[2:16:52] come first
[2:16:55] right now and then we've also
[2:16:57] told them we have to withholdX
[2:16:59] amount of affluent water because
[2:17:01] we do use it to water our golf
[2:17:02] course and you know we've taken
[2:17:05] almost all of our parks
[2:17:06] off of the watering system now.
[2:17:08] thank you state government
[2:17:10] you've given us the the
[2:17:11] resources to turf almost all of
[2:17:14] our parks were down to 2 parks
[2:17:16] now that we're looking at the
[2:17:17] future of getting rid of the
[2:17:18] grass and going to turf and
[2:17:20] we'll be100% artificial turf
[2:17:23] with no watering in our parks so
[2:17:25] we're we're working on that so
[2:17:27] we've been upfront and honest
[2:17:28] with this company and the public
[2:17:30] that this is all we can supply
[2:17:32] you and nothing you go above and
[2:17:34] beyond while that's on you you
[2:17:35] you you cannot
[2:17:37] expand beyond what we can give
[2:17:38] you
[2:17:39] thank you it ain't hope with our
[2:17:41] next administration of Navajo
[2:17:42] Nation we continue to collab
[2:17:46] border towns but thank you thank
[2:17:48] you mayor
[2:17:51] thank you very muchppreciate it.
[2:17:53] thanks for coming to Gallup.
[2:17:55] and thank you for the work you
[2:17:56] do. I do have Manylito chapter
[2:17:57] president andaci chapter
[2:18:00] president in our in our midst
[2:18:03] but because we have this
[2:18:05] presentation and then we're
[2:18:06] gonna have public comment
[2:18:08] we're going to have to actually
[2:18:09] and manualito come in after our
[2:18:12] presentation number3, the future
[2:18:14] of community economic
[2:18:15] sovereignty we'll talk to you
[2:18:16] soon need to make an appointment
[2:18:17] with you guys
[2:18:19] yeah yes
[2:18:22] So Liz Gambola henry Jake Forman
[2:18:26] and Aquila Martinez would you
[2:18:27] join us up here
[2:18:30] and if there we eat person as
[2:18:32] committee member oh yeah there's
[2:18:34] a pub yeah where we have a
[2:18:35] public comment sign in sheet at
[2:18:37] the the front there so just be
[2:18:39] aware if you signed up I'm gonna
[2:18:41] call you out to make public
[2:18:43] comment
[2:18:44] but before we go into public
[2:18:45] comment we'll have a short
[2:18:47] presentation with our two
[2:18:48] chapter presidents that are here
[2:18:51] committee members we're gonna
[2:18:52] take a very short five minute
[2:18:54] break members go get pickup
[2:18:57] lunch there and we're gonna
[2:18:58] start to have a working lunch
[2:19:00] sort of thing
[2:19:02] yeah the food's the food's there
[2:19:05] and thank you to Representative
[2:19:07] Lundstrom for lunch re of
[2:19:09] Johnton and Twin Lakes chapter
[2:19:11] for the continental breakfast
[2:19:13] fruits and donutts and thank you
[2:19:15] to the chamber for donuts short
[2:19:17] little break5 minutes.
[2:26:59] OK, those that are in line to
[2:27:01] get your lunch please quiet
[2:27:04] down
[2:27:08] take your conversations down
[2:27:10] the tone with your voice so our
[2:27:12] presenters can get going and you
[2:27:14] have not been before us before
[2:27:18] ok so the green light to go we
[2:27:19] try to only have one microphone
[2:27:20] on at a time. make sure you
[2:27:22] bring it close to you because we
[2:27:24] are webcasting so our members
[2:27:25] can those that are joining us
[2:27:28] will be able to hear you thank
[2:27:30] you thank you so much
[2:27:34] all right awesome well thank you
[2:27:36] so much thank you so much for
[2:27:37] addressing us today committee
[2:27:39] madam chair senator thank you so
[2:27:41] much yes so we'll go ahead and
[2:27:43] speak up we are New Mexico
[2:27:45] community capital my name is
[2:27:46] Henry Jake Forman I'm
[2:27:48] absenteehawnee from Oklahoma as
[2:27:50] well as Filipino and ScotsIrish
[2:27:51] born and raised here in New
[2:27:53] Mexico and Albuquerque, New
[2:27:54] Mexico so grateful we got to
[2:27:57] go to school with some of our
[2:27:58] representatives and chairpeople
[2:28:00] here as well. I'm gonna go ahead
[2:28:02] and introduce our executive
[2:28:03] director Liz
[2:28:04] Gamboa who will start our
[2:28:05] presentation.
[2:28:09] good afternoon I'm so happy you
[2:28:11] all have your lunch wonderful
[2:28:14] so yes my name isliz Gamboa. I
[2:28:18] am Mexican and apache descent
[2:28:22] I have I am the executive
[2:28:25] director at NMCc I have been
[2:28:27] there for 8 years come October
[2:28:30] 1st.
[2:28:32] time has flown and I came
[2:28:36] here from the bay areaa to join
[2:28:39] the organization and I came here
[2:28:42] for this job it really was an
[2:28:44] answer to what we've always
[2:28:46] wanted to do to bring my finance
[2:28:48] background into economic
[2:28:51] development and community
[2:28:53] development so
[2:28:54] yeah I'd love to introduce you
[2:28:58] to our organization NMCC is
[2:29:02] what I will call it it's a long
[2:29:04] name and we've thought about
[2:29:06] changing the name but since we
[2:29:08] serve community we're keeping it
[2:29:10] for now we are all of our
[2:29:14] strategic direction is around
[2:29:17] communities so our official
[2:29:18] mission is to bridge access to
[2:29:21] knowledge space technology
[2:29:24] people and capital to
[2:29:26] create stronger communities
[2:29:28] resilient local economies and
[2:29:31] pathways to prosperity we
[2:29:34] activate life changing
[2:29:36] opportunities with indigenous
[2:29:39] people and other economically
[2:29:41] distressed communities to build
[2:29:43] community economic sovereignty
[2:29:47] we've been around since 204, our
[2:29:51] first investor was a local
[2:29:53] pueblo we started as a non
[2:29:57] p ro fi t but we also had a Vc
[2:30:00] arm which is a fund we actually
[2:30:02] ran two funds that were around
[2:30:06] up until a year and a half ago
[2:30:10] when we closed the fund so both
[2:30:12] were successful and the idea
[2:30:15] was that
[2:30:18] it we wanted to find investment
[2:30:22] ready businesses led by
[2:30:24] indigenous people we couldn't
[2:30:27] find them so we had to just
[2:30:29] recalibrate a little bit and
[2:30:32] really go to that group and
[2:30:34] teach them how to do that and
[2:30:36] get investment ready.
[2:30:41] that is kind of where I come
[2:30:43] into the picture. I was one of
[2:30:44] those native entrepreneurs in
[2:30:46] residence at the time I was a
[2:30:48] high school teacher at the
[2:30:49] Native American Community
[2:30:50] academy and I was on my own path
[2:30:52] to recovery right my dad died of
[2:30:54] cirrhosis of the liver so
[2:30:56] that's just something you know
[2:30:57] this conversation that we had
[2:30:58] previously really hit home you
[2:31:01] know for me and what gave me
[2:31:01] hope is entrepreneurship. you
[2:31:03] know what gave me hope is being
[2:31:04] in school and getting my degree
[2:31:07] and that's when I got connected
[2:31:08] to New Mexicounity capital we
[2:31:10] see that there's
[2:31:11] a lot of societal challenges but
[2:31:13] we feel like we're a community
[2:31:14] solution, right we know that
[2:31:16] over 6% of New Mexico businesses
[2:31:18] are native owned and we also
[2:31:20] know that indigenous founders
[2:31:21] receive less than0.5% of venture
[2:31:24] capital and philanthropic
[2:31:25] funding. so that's what our
[2:31:28] that's why we're here that's why
[2:31:28] we wanted to talk with you all
[2:31:29] to just really start building
[2:31:31] relations and kinship
[2:31:32] connected so like Liz mentioned
[2:31:35] we really activate life changing
[2:31:37] opportunities and we wanted to
[2:31:38] show you all some cases and
[2:31:39] examples of how we've done that
[2:31:41] in the past and I'm following
[2:31:43] you all have a presentation of
[2:31:45] our slide deck. So I'm going to
[2:31:47] the deck that is entitled core
[2:31:50] annualgras one of the
[2:31:51] culturally grounded business
[2:31:53] education workshops that we do
[2:31:55] is our business and marketing
[2:31:56] essentials so imagine right you
[2:31:58] all were talking about intake
[2:32:00] and people needing support
[2:32:01] what we do right away is we
[2:32:03] offer a holistic support to
[2:32:04] native entrepreneurs we take
[2:32:06] in again what their needs are
[2:32:08] what their challenges and right
[2:32:10] away we give
[2:32:11] them access to one on one
[2:32:12] coaching and support. We give
[2:32:14] them a digital wallet for their
[2:32:16] online subscriptions to get aite
[2:32:18] we also offer laptops we know
[2:32:20] that resources and access to
[2:32:23] technologies is a real barrier
[2:32:24] so we've been over we've been
[2:32:24] able to literally give out
[2:32:26] thousands of laptops across
[2:32:28] Mexico and then provide access
[2:32:30] to actual cash resources so back
[2:32:33] starting in 2017 when we started
[2:32:35] our business marketing
[2:32:36] essentials we offer everyone1200
[2:32:38] dollars to be able to help
[2:32:40] them with their marketing
[2:32:41] during our business and
[2:32:42] marketing essentials class
[2:32:44] and before in our native
[2:32:46] entrepreneur and residence
[2:32:47] program we offered all of our
[2:32:50] entrepreneurs15,000 dollars plus
[2:32:51] six months of mentorship. That
[2:32:53] was life changing for me. that's
[2:32:55] what we talked about when we we
[2:32:55] offer life changing
[2:32:56] opportunities because that's how
[2:32:58] I was able to become an
[2:32:59] entrepreneur shift from my
[2:33:01] full time job as a as a teacher
[2:33:03] to also being an entrepreneur
[2:33:05] and own a storefront in downtown
[2:33:07] Albuquerque. So these are the
[2:33:09] types of things that we do
[2:33:10] like wement
[2:33:11] we access to community capital
[2:33:13] so that's micro grants tech tool
[2:33:15] kits nonpredatory loans,
[2:33:18] networks of peers and allies and
[2:33:20] I think that's how we've also
[2:33:21] been able to strengthen our
[2:33:22] indigenous workforce and
[2:33:24] business owners and then we also
[2:33:27] offer fiscal sponsorship so you
[2:33:29] all mentioned right there's
[2:33:30] always a lack of fiscal sponsors
[2:33:32] within our community who's able
[2:33:33] to take in these funds these
[2:33:35] capital stacks and be able to
[2:33:36] manage programs and that's
[2:33:38] really what we focused on we
[2:33:40] have 22 different
[2:33:41] emerging projects around the
[2:33:42] state that we act as a fiscal
[2:33:44] sponsor and what has really
[2:33:46] helped us is that we have our
[2:33:47] back end we have a solid
[2:33:49] foundation as a venture capital
[2:33:50] fund operating for over 20 years
[2:33:52] we have two accountants and we
[2:33:54] really focus on technology to
[2:33:56] help with program management.
[2:33:58] So on our next slide, Liz is
[2:34:00] going to talk about you know why
[2:34:02] we're here and why should we
[2:34:03] invest in more native
[2:34:04] entrepreneurs in New Mexico
[2:34:05] community capital.
[2:34:17] So New Mexico is a hot spot as
[2:34:20] I'm sure you are all feeling
[2:34:23] with perhaps different
[2:34:25] leadership coming in
[2:34:28] different way and right it is
[2:34:32] the second state number 2 for
[2:34:35] native owned businesses in 2025
[2:34:39] so our work over the last decade
[2:34:42] has helped New Mexico stand out
[2:34:45] as one of the strongest
[2:34:45] environment
[2:34:47] s in the country for native
[2:34:49] entrepreneurs and we're the only
[2:34:52] native led nonprofit that
[2:34:54] provides services to business
[2:34:56] owners statewide and all tribal
[2:34:57] affiliation.
[2:34:59] affiliations sorry
[2:35:03] so
[2:35:04] we've done a lot in the past10
[2:35:07] years so officially in 2014 we
[2:35:12] received a grant from the
[2:35:14] administration for Native
[2:35:16] Americans which kicked off ourE
[2:35:19] program native entrepreneur and
[2:35:24] residents program a very first
[2:35:24] company to go through the
[2:35:26] program was bo and arrow brewery
[2:35:29] sohya Shepherd worked at NMCc
[2:35:32] she was a financial analyst
[2:35:35] so she took it to the next step.
[2:35:37] she was ready to take the leap
[2:35:39] and she helped formulate and
[2:35:43] build the curriculum for the
[2:35:45] NMCc program so
[2:35:47] she was the first of46
[2:35:49] entrepreneurs to go through the
[2:35:52] six month program but what we
[2:35:54] found was we needed more basics
[2:35:57] and essentials so Jake created
[2:36:00] another program calledinancial
[2:36:04] Business basicsics we then moved
[2:36:05] to digital marketing and
[2:36:09] media basics and now where we've
[2:36:12] landed is business and marketing
[2:36:14] essentials so all of those
[2:36:15] program
[2:36:18] s we've put 864 people through
[2:36:21] various programs every single
[2:36:24] one has received a stipend so
[2:36:27] anywhere from1200 dollars
[2:36:31] to15,000 for the six month
[2:36:32] program that is included in
[2:36:35] every grant that we provide to
[2:36:38] funders
[2:36:39] it is an essential piece of the
[2:36:42] work that we do people not only
[2:36:45] need it for the business they
[2:36:46] need it for child care they need
[2:36:48] it for food we think what are
[2:36:51] the hurdles that are keeping
[2:36:52] entrepreneurs from doing their
[2:36:54] work so that amounts to10,000
[2:36:59] over10,000 hours in training so
[2:37:01] I'm oh you're looking at the new
[2:37:04] pack 228,000 in tech toolkits
[2:37:09] the value of that mentorship is
[2:37:11] almost a million dollars that
[2:37:14] we've provided and we have
[2:37:19] received14.5 million in grants
[2:37:22] we have only received one state
[2:37:24] grant from IAD we did a program
[2:37:28] just this earlier this year
[2:37:31] we did two business and
[2:37:33] marketing essentials classes
[2:37:37] awesome thank you Liz for
[2:37:39] sharing some of that impact and
[2:37:40] that's all driven by the
[2:37:41] entrepreneurs themselves,
[2:37:43] including the mentorship we
[2:37:44] really value finding native
[2:37:46] mentors as well so in some cases
[2:37:48] that's here both in New Mexico
[2:37:50] as well as nationally and
[2:37:52] internationally
[2:37:53] so on our next slide we're
[2:37:55] talking about access to
[2:37:56] knowledge so just want to give
[2:37:57] you a quote you know from a
[2:37:59] participant the training I
[2:38:01] received gave me the confidence
[2:38:02] and tools to grow my business
[2:38:03] and support my community and I
[2:38:06] would say that's almost one of
[2:38:07] the most valuable parts of our
[2:38:09] programming is to connect and
[2:38:10] network with the peers of native
[2:38:12] entrepreneurs right we have a
[2:38:14] space in downtown Albuquerque.
[2:38:16] We recently spent1.4 million
[2:38:18] dollars of renovating the space
[2:38:20] to have the best in class
[2:38:22] audiovisual to be able to do
[2:38:23] hybrid events to host community
[2:38:25] events and we have one of our
[2:38:28] participants here today
[2:38:30] Aquilamartinez and this is
[2:38:31] really around access to
[2:38:32] technology we doubled down on
[2:38:35] technology especially before the
[2:38:37] pandemic so we already knew that
[2:38:39] the rural nature of of our
[2:38:41] community meant that we couldn't
[2:38:42] be everywhere so we had to
[2:38:43] really focus on doing virtual
[2:38:45] programming making sure to give
[2:38:46] people computers teaching them
[2:38:48] how to do a a virtual
[2:38:50] programming right to to log in.
[2:38:53] So during the
[2:38:53] pandemic we actually were able
[2:38:55] to scale we never stopped
[2:38:56] working because our work was
[2:38:57] already based in that virtual
[2:38:59] programming. Akila was one of
[2:39:01] our participants and I feel like
[2:39:03] Liz you know if you could
[2:39:04] introduce her so that she could
[2:39:05] share her new slides that she
[2:39:07] also shared with you all
[2:39:11] Absolutely so Akila is one of
[2:39:12] those success stories that we'd
[2:39:15] like to point out I very much
[2:39:19] believe in system models and I
[2:39:22] think the other interpretation
[2:39:24] of a system which is a very
[2:39:26] western term is relationship
[2:39:29] based models so here akeyla
[2:39:32] comes in she attends a class we
[2:39:35] see that she is very skilled so
[2:39:38] she comes in
[2:39:39] she becomes a guest speaker we
[2:39:42] decide to hire Akila to
[2:39:45] create some little vignettes of
[2:39:48] instruction around social
[2:39:50] media which is really needed
[2:39:53] so that goes on ikok and I think
[2:39:57] that maybe our highest rated
[2:40:00] ikok so if you go to our site
[2:40:02] and go back you'll see and it is
[2:40:05] all around language preservation
[2:40:07] so she has made it identifiable
[2:40:11] by younger people by older
[2:40:13] people just by the subject she
[2:40:16] uses she kicked off and led
[2:40:20] and she's going to talk a little
[2:40:21] about this but I think it's
[2:40:23] important
[2:40:23] to really just elevate what
[2:40:26] she's done in community and the
[2:40:29] most humble way we put on a
[2:40:32] turtle island women in tech
[2:40:35] conference so we brought women
[2:40:37] from New Zealand from Canada
[2:40:40] and my goodness and about six
[2:40:44] weeks 8 weeks akila raised
[2:40:47] enough money to put this
[2:40:49] conference on and brought these
[2:40:50] people here it was amazing. so
[2:40:53] this is something that just took
[2:40:55] place a year and a half ago it
[2:40:57] was the first of its kind and
[2:40:59] we're really pro proud that
[2:41:01] she's a part of our extended
[2:41:03] family at NMCc so I'm gonna pass
[2:41:07] it toilla and she can just talk
[2:41:09] about her work.
[2:41:10] thank you Liz that means so
[2:41:13] much. So just for some context
[2:41:15] we'll start on this slide here
[2:41:18] don't know if you guys could
[2:41:19] see that so a quick agenda of
[2:41:21] what I'll be talking about today
[2:41:23] is a glittering ro girl intro to
[2:41:26] my business and then how NMCc
[2:41:29] helped the latest momentum and
[2:41:31] why support matters in this work
[2:41:33] so starting with the first slide
[2:41:37] yay my name is Aquilo Martinez
[2:41:41] Bajaleque winni ini dnasha I
[2:41:41] come from the redsprings
[2:41:42] community of the Navajo Nation
[2:41:44] which is just about1f minutes
[2:41:46] south of Gallup, New Mexico so I
[2:41:48] went to school here elementary
[2:41:50] school, middle school and high
[2:41:52] school. and so yeah, I really
[2:41:55] much know what it is to be like
[2:41:58] growing up on a border by border
[2:42:00] town.
[2:42:03] I
[2:42:03] got my lifelong goal at the age
[2:42:05] of three to create
[2:42:07] community-based media after
[2:42:08] constantly witnessing my
[2:42:10] grandparents have to watch TV
[2:42:11] programming that was only
[2:42:12] offered in English so that's why
[2:42:14] I felt like it was important to
[2:42:16] create media that revitalizes
[2:42:18] language and culture
[2:42:19] into my adolescence after I
[2:42:22] graduated college I really saw
[2:42:24] that there was a lack of
[2:42:26] career opportunity around the
[2:42:28] area for language and culture
[2:42:30] preservation so which that led
[2:42:32] me down the path of
[2:42:33] entrepreneurship.
[2:42:33] Today glittering wallir is an
[2:42:36] indigenous women owned
[2:42:39] multimedia house and I focus on
[2:42:40] creating indigenousbased
[2:42:43] circular economic ecosystems
[2:42:45] community based media that
[2:42:47] focuses on indigenous language
[2:42:49] and culture of futurism. The
[2:42:51] medium that I predominantly
[2:42:53] focus on which is the next slide
[2:42:56] this one right here is
[2:43:01] augmented reality and so I
[2:43:04] develop augmented reality for
[2:43:05] mobile phones and for also
[2:43:08] augmented reality glasses
[2:43:10] multiple types of AR are
[2:43:13] augmented reality which is the
[2:43:14] slide here is the famous type of
[2:43:19] Aar is for social media filters
[2:43:20] and then also Pokemon Go.
[2:43:22] and some really cool exciting
[2:43:27] client feedback which is this
[2:43:29] slide here. is that
[2:43:32] glittering world girl was able
[2:43:33] to deliver AR experiences at a
[2:43:36] faster capacity and that are
[2:43:38] much better designed than
[2:43:40] companies on the east coast. So
[2:43:41] that really means a lot to me
[2:43:43] because it's taken a lot of
[2:43:45] momentum to teach myself how to
[2:43:47] build AR experiences which is an
[2:43:49] emerging technology and the
[2:43:52] focus of glittering Worldirl is
[2:43:53] to really help New
[2:43:54] Mexico and tribal nations become
[2:43:57] technologically inclined and up
[2:43:59] to date with emerging
[2:44:00] technologies that are changing
[2:44:01] the world.
[2:44:02] Some awards there that you see
[2:44:05] is that I've received
[2:44:06] multiple awards from MIT
[2:44:09] Stanford and recently a VC
[2:44:13] fund
[2:44:14] establishment in San Francisco
[2:44:18] and I've also gotten the New
[2:44:20] Mexico Women and Tech emerging
[2:44:21] award of 2024.
[2:44:23] and then you see there's some
[2:44:25] media coverage that my work has
[2:44:27] gotten and then also how New
[2:44:32] Mexicounity capital has really
[2:44:33] flourished and given me capacity
[2:44:36] to build on my business is in
[2:44:40] 2021 I joined their business
[2:44:43] marketingssentials class and
[2:44:45] they they really provided an
[2:44:47] environment and a space of
[2:44:49] support of entrepreneurship
[2:44:51] teaching me about marketing
[2:44:52] financial
[2:44:53] literacy, business and finance
[2:44:56] structures and that really
[2:45:00] led to me winning AIBE pitch
[2:45:03] competition in 2022 for first
[2:45:06] place for glittering Worldirl.
[2:45:08] since then I have like Liz
[2:45:13] mentioned there was a lot of
[2:45:15] trust there that was built I was
[2:45:19] hired to host some of their
[2:45:22] video marketing workshops and
[2:45:25] then also contracted to produce
[2:45:27] some videos for their
[2:45:28] programming and that really
[2:45:29] meant a lot to me because it
[2:45:31] felt like they believed in my
[2:45:33] my offerings that a business had
[2:45:36] my business had
[2:45:37] I've also and a s recipient of
[2:45:40] their kinship lending loan
[2:45:42] programme, which not only helped
[2:45:44] my business but it also helped
[2:45:45] me establish and create a
[2:45:47] positive credit for myself.
[2:45:49] in 2025 my business received
[2:45:54] a h00,000 dollars grant and I
[2:45:57] was able to use New Mexicounity
[2:46:00] capital as a fiscal sponsor and
[2:46:02] through that process they were a
[2:46:03] true partner in that process
[2:46:06] by offering me administrative
[2:46:08] and financial administrative
[2:46:11] support which let me learn about
[2:46:15] the ins and outs of budget to
[2:46:17] actuals profit and loss
[2:46:18] statements associated with the
[2:46:20] grant and most importantly to
[2:46:22] give me a sense of what it
[2:46:23] really takes to offer
[2:46:26] technologybased programming for
[2:46:26] the community.
[2:46:28] So on there you'll see pictures
[2:46:29] of indigenous augmented reality
[2:46:31] workshops I was able to host
[2:46:33] those at New Mexico Community
[2:46:34] Capital and through their fiscal
[2:46:37] sponsorship I was able to do
[2:46:40] workshops on the Navajo Nation
[2:46:42] and at UCLA.
[2:46:45] so and then the most latest
[2:46:47] momentum is that we hosted the
[2:46:51] turtle Islandomen in Tech event
[2:46:53] just this past august and that
[2:46:56] was an amazing moment in
[2:46:59] itself we brought together
[2:47:00] prominent indigenous women from
[2:47:02] Canada, New Zealand, across the
[2:47:04] states and of course New Mexico
[2:47:06] to really dream and imagine
[2:47:09] what technology can be like on
[2:47:11] our terms for economic sovere
[2:47:14] ign ty self determination,
[2:47:16] language and culturely
[2:47:17] appropriate content in
[2:47:19] technology and
[2:47:21] that in itself was a true
[2:47:26] partnership as well with New
[2:47:27] Mexico Community Capital you
[2:47:28] could say they acted as a fiscal
[2:47:30] sponsor for that
[2:47:31] because all of the skills that I
[2:47:34] have obtained up until this past
[2:47:36] august as an entrepreneur I was
[2:47:39] able to raise over47,000 dollars
[2:47:41] for this event within a matter
[2:47:43] of three months and that came
[2:47:45] from pitching
[2:47:46] glittering wogir New Mexico
[2:47:49] community capital to each of
[2:47:51] these sponsors to earn their
[2:47:52] trust and their dollars to
[2:47:53] sponsor this event
[2:47:54] so
[2:47:55] this is that that kind of space
[2:47:58] that the turtle Islandomen in
[2:48:00] tech event created is so
[2:48:03] valuable because as I've been in
[2:48:05] spaces like I mentioned at MIT
[2:48:07] Stanford Snapchat meta and
[2:48:10] some of the leading global
[2:48:12] conferences I see no indigenous
[2:48:14] representation in these spaces
[2:48:16] and so creating an event like
[2:48:20] the turtle Islandomen intech
[2:48:21] event is something that was is
[2:48:23] very much needed
[2:48:24] and it was an event to be
[2:48:27] attended by indigenous people
[2:48:28] non indigenous people, everyone
[2:48:30] so we can create an ecosystem
[2:48:32] and learn how we can work
[2:48:34] together and in innovative ways
[2:48:37] aside from that on glittering
[2:48:38] Worldirls
[2:48:43] with glittering wo girl I've
[2:48:44] been in talk with Bernna Leo
[2:48:46] County and Gallupup Tourism here
[2:48:47] to learn how to bring augmented
[2:48:50] reality programming to schools
[2:48:51] and then also to for the
[2:48:54] gallup tourism efforts as well
[2:48:56] to kind of bring an emerging
[2:48:58] te technology to an
[2:49:00] experience that the tourists get
[2:49:02] to experience when they
[2:49:04] visitallllup. but yeah so I
[2:49:06] just I really want to thank New
[2:49:09] Mexicounity Capi I think that
[2:49:10] what it takes really is
[2:49:12] resources I think through my
[2:49:15] work I realized that it does
[2:49:16] take a a a lot of dollars to be
[2:49:20] able to to create impact to be
[2:49:22] able to offer back to the
[2:49:25] community so through my
[2:49:26] workshops I I offer stipends to
[2:49:29] participants to attend we
[2:49:32] offer catering and then we also
[2:49:34] hire local talent to perform
[2:49:37] at these workshops so yeah I
[2:49:41] think that my ask
[2:49:42] today is for you guys to you
[2:49:45] know support New Mexicoun
[2:49:47] capital because of all of the
[2:49:48] great work that they do they
[2:49:50] really are a leader in the
[2:49:52] whole50 states for innovation
[2:49:54] and indigenous entrepreneurship
[2:49:56] they're creating a whole
[2:49:58] ecosystem of that that is a
[2:50:00] model to be studied
[2:50:03] and so yes the ask is that
[2:50:05] you know we need support as
[2:50:06] entrepreneurs who are trying to
[2:50:08] give back to community and
[2:50:10] create and invent new things for
[2:50:12] the community we need the
[2:50:14] dollars to do that the
[2:50:16] visibility and really the
[2:50:17] community and trust in the
[2:50:19] kinship amongst all of us to
[2:50:21] create that thriving ecosystem.
[2:50:23] thank you
[2:50:25] thank you Akila. so yes
[2:50:32] as of right now no we do not.
[2:50:34] we did receive a small grant
[2:50:35] from the IED this past year
[2:50:38] but we have yeah we have not
[2:50:40] yes and that's also
[2:50:47] we we could have a couple more
[2:50:48] slides but it's up to you ok
[2:50:50] yeah so yeah we'll focus
[2:50:51] we'll just finish up some of the
[2:50:53] slides so Kela was talking
[2:50:55] about our turtle Island women at
[2:50:56] tech event you know, I just want
[2:50:58] to put it out there we had
[2:51:00] over100 entrepreneurs there at
[2:51:02] this event and we had
[2:51:04] BobbyRossette from Canada who
[2:51:06] just sold their business one of
[2:51:07] the first native women business
[2:51:09] owners who just sold their
[2:51:10] business for over400 million
[2:51:12] dollars, right? And so that's
[2:51:13] the type of story that's the
[2:51:14] type of hope that we're
[2:51:16] providing right just
[2:51:17] just examples of that since
[2:51:19] opening up our resilience hub
[2:51:20] we've had over19 different
[2:51:22] pueblos use our space over47
[2:51:24] other tribal nations, ix
[2:51:26] international indigenous groups
[2:51:29] over116 partner organizations we
[2:51:31] host we hope to host you all one
[2:51:33] day as well in the future we
[2:51:35] do film nights art nights
[2:51:36] wellness classes, powwow
[2:51:38] practice drum and native games
[2:51:40] and this is something that we
[2:51:41] want to expand across New Mexico
[2:51:43] right? how do we activate
[2:51:44] downtown spaces we're operating
[2:51:46] in a space called the Occidental
[2:51:49] buildingilding and if you all
[2:51:49] know that means the the western
[2:51:51] building right so it it's really
[2:51:53] symbolic that we have all of
[2:51:56] these indigenous entrepreneurs
[2:51:57] cultural bearers utilizing the
[2:51:59] space one of the nicest
[2:52:00] historical buildings in downtown
[2:52:01] Albuquerque we're hoping to
[2:52:03] purchase that building. we
[2:52:04] know that you all can't help
[2:52:06] with capital outlay but
[2:52:07] that's something that we're also
[2:52:08] fundraising for just a little
[2:52:11] bit about our access to
[2:52:12] community capital the fiscal
[2:52:14] sponsorship grants the stipends,
[2:52:16] the rooted
[2:52:16] relative loan funds the co op
[2:52:18] capital loans and did you
[2:52:19] exchange sales? these are all
[2:52:21] just numbers that we wanted to
[2:52:22] share with you all. We want nex
[2:52:24] this in the next10 years, right?
[2:52:25] this is what something that
[2:52:26] we're passionate about and we
[2:52:28] have a system that I believe
[2:52:29] works not only for indigenous
[2:52:31] communities but rural
[2:52:32] communities across New Mexico
[2:52:34] and that's why we want to keep
[2:52:35] our name New Mexicounity
[2:52:37] Capital. So I'll have thisz
[2:52:39] round us out to with our
[2:52:40] presentations so we could have
[2:52:43] start into questions.
[2:52:46] so as Jake said for the past
[2:52:49] year we've been looking at
[2:52:52] buying our building we've also
[2:52:54] been concerned about operating
[2:52:57] expenses so we can continue this
[2:53:00] work I think it is an
[2:53:03] important piece of programming
[2:53:06] to offer stipends to individuals
[2:53:10] so that raises the cost of the
[2:53:12] program a bit we also offer
[2:53:16] follow
[2:53:16] up mentorship and technical
[2:53:20] assistance so at least3 to5
[2:53:23] hours of mentorship for every
[2:53:26] person is offered and that's not
[2:53:29] just with us that could be with
[2:53:30] others Akila has been a mentor
[2:53:33] another role that
[2:53:36] Akila has filled and we have
[2:53:38] first Friday art walks madam
[2:53:41] chair you look like you have a
[2:53:42] question. OK sounds good so
[2:53:47] we have we offer first Friday
[2:53:50] art walks all the vendors that
[2:53:52] have been in our programs are
[2:53:54] invited to participate in that
[2:53:56] so we don't charge we offer food
[2:54:00] to all of the vendors that come
[2:54:02] so again paying for security
[2:54:06] you know not charging them a
[2:54:08] space buying food and then the
[2:54:10] staff is there that has to take
[2:54:13] part in it and we've done worked
[2:54:16] with the rail yards we've done40
[2:54:20] we've hosted40 different
[2:54:22] individuals we paid for the
[2:54:25] space and given them it to them
[2:54:27] we just wrapped up a five year
[2:54:30] award
[2:54:31] through the future is indigenous
[2:54:33] women so that was a five year
[2:54:36] program that we ran we were the
[2:54:39] recipient of a10 million dollars
[2:54:41] award from Melinda Gates and
[2:54:47] mackenzieco and the Schusterman
[2:54:48] Foundation to make women native
[2:54:51] women more vestable so we did
[2:54:53] that through summits and
[2:54:56] programs and the repatriating
[2:54:58] economies apprenticeship gave
[2:55:01] them a lot of air time and
[2:55:03] interviews and did community
[2:55:07] table building sessions online
[2:55:11] we had5 years of that so we just
[2:55:13] wrapped up we'll have a public
[2:55:16] report out soon
[2:55:19] with that10 million4.6 million
[2:55:23] was given back to community so
[2:55:27] that went through stipends that
[2:55:29] was loans that was technical
[2:55:32] assistance so truly almost half
[2:55:35] of it went back out to everyone
[2:55:37] that participated in the program
[2:55:40] and we'll we'll end this
[2:55:42] presentation with just one other
[2:55:44] example success story
[2:55:47] benendndo the last name might
[2:55:48] sound familiar but again also
[2:55:51] program graduate became a
[2:55:52] fiscally sponsored project
[2:55:55] helped him with branding and
[2:55:56] marketing support and helped him
[2:55:58] buy a property inhama Springs
[2:56:01] and he is fromhama pueblo and
[2:56:03] that was very symbolic to be
[2:56:04] able to have a physical location
[2:56:06] within Hama Springs to offer
[2:56:09] culturally rele relevant
[2:56:09] training capoe
[2:56:11] a training dance classes you
[2:56:14] know to his community it's now a
[2:56:16] community retreat and gathering
[2:56:17] space and just another
[2:56:19] example you know of how they
[2:56:21] went through our system and I
[2:56:23] just want to emphasize this
[2:56:23] because you all probably hear a
[2:56:25] lot of really I don't wanna say
[2:56:26] like sad stories right on this
[2:56:29] committee you know just hearing
[2:56:30] about water addiction. we want
[2:56:32] to bring this this light because
[2:56:33] I think this is the success that
[2:56:35] we want to see more of, right?
[2:56:36] people from the community
[2:56:38] supporting one another and
[2:56:40] really you know taking the
[2:56:41] emphasis to increase their
[2:56:44] generational wealth so I
[2:56:46] think we'll you know pause that
[2:56:48] you get to see a little bit of
[2:56:49] our operating budget as well and
[2:56:51] some future projects but I'll
[2:56:52] have Liz and this end this
[2:56:54] presentation thank you
[2:56:57] so we have have run a budget
[2:57:01] for the past5 years of anywhere
[2:57:09] from3.75 to4.2 million dollars
[2:57:10] and and a lot of that
[2:57:12] that's high for us and that was
[2:57:15] due to the award we managed the
[2:57:18] the funding for this we also
[2:57:21] were able to invest very safely
[2:57:24] in CDs and were backed FDIC
[2:57:27] insured so we're able even to
[2:57:30] make a little bit more but
[2:57:33] just to share that we have 88%
[2:57:37] of the money that funds us comes
[2:57:40] from grants
[2:57:41] and contributions business
[2:57:44] services is 9% for2026 interest
[2:57:45] income is3%.
[2:57:53] we that actually seems high
[2:57:56] but it's lower than what it has
[2:57:58] been has been closer to 95% and
[2:58:02] it's hard to rely on grants and
[2:58:05] private funding for this work
[2:58:08] year after year so we have not
[2:58:12] presented before and there's
[2:58:15] a couple of reasons for us being
[2:58:17] here one is
[2:58:19] we do need to diversify the way
[2:58:22] that we bring funding in and
[2:58:26] we are in a building
[2:58:29] I've been here for 8 years when
[2:58:31] I was here came in 2018 we were
[2:58:36] in a corporate office building
[2:58:38] at the corner of central andhird
[2:58:41] it felt like that was not quite
[2:58:44] our environment but that's where
[2:58:47] we were and where we landed in
[2:58:49] December of 2020 we moved to
[2:58:53] theoccidental building slowly
[2:58:56] took over4,000 square feet of
[2:58:58] space we took over another4,000
[2:59:02] square feet with the building
[2:59:05] and opening of the razillience
[2:59:07] sub two years ago October1st
[2:59:10] will be our
[2:59:11] anniversary and we raised as
[2:59:14] Jake said1.4 million dollars to
[2:59:17] finish that we have plans to
[2:59:20] expand and continue to grow in
[2:59:23] community and we need support
[2:59:26] with raising more money for
[2:59:29] the down payment we want to pair
[2:59:33] with another nonprofit who's
[2:59:35] currently on the 2nd floor and
[2:59:38] do a joint venture
[2:59:39] and own the building and this is
[2:59:43] for the long term vision of NMCc
[2:59:48] we also are looking for funding
[2:59:50] to support our programming so we
[2:59:53] can continue to build on this
[2:59:56] legacy of education and support
[3:00:00] in a way I feel is so unique in
[3:00:03] this area in this atmosphere I I
[3:00:06] truly want to see a continued
[3:00:09] Jake as our program director
[3:00:10] brings his whole life experience
[3:00:14] and it's really magical to see
[3:00:16] him lead classes and I've
[3:00:18] learned lots so
[3:00:20] we also want to move into
[3:00:23] tech more so and do it in the
[3:00:25] best way possible not relying on
[3:00:28] data centers where not for data
[3:00:30] centers but we see data servers
[3:00:33] perhaps on the second floor to
[3:00:36] make local models right and
[3:00:39] yeah and Jake has done a lot of
[3:00:42] work there he had previously
[3:00:43] worked in the grow with
[3:00:46] Google environment and for
[3:00:49] several years so
[3:00:50] they supported us and actually
[3:00:53] just granted us a little bit of
[3:00:55] money so we can continue that
[3:00:57] work with them and also of
[3:01:01] course agg right growing food
[3:01:04] we have in the resilience hub we
[3:01:06] have a gathering space that
[3:01:10] seats175 people we have a a seed
[3:01:14] vault it was previously a bank
[3:01:17] we've converted that into exceed
[3:01:18] exchange
[3:01:22] vaults so its temperature
[3:01:22] controlled mud all the way on
[3:01:25] the inside and we're having
[3:01:27] furniture we just fundraised
[3:01:29] for this having some custom
[3:01:31] pieces made so it is can be
[3:01:34] usable by community Wales of
[3:01:37] wellness space in the resilience
[3:01:38] hub so that could be
[3:01:41] traditional healing or western
[3:01:43] healing so
[3:01:44] that is our little community and
[3:01:48] we want to continue this work so
[3:01:52] I am just on the I don't
[3:01:58] know what this is the time sorry
[3:01:59] since it's my first
[3:02:01] presentation but we're trying to
[3:02:03] raise a million dollars to help
[3:02:05] with programming and developing
[3:02:08] the next vision and version of
[3:02:11] our entrepreneurial program
[3:02:13] which are called razilian
[3:02:15] circles it's already been tried
[3:02:18] out in Alaska so it is a whole
[3:02:21] wholelistic application
[3:02:23] of entrepreneurial coursework
[3:02:27] while also recognizing that
[3:02:29] there are real needs that our
[3:02:31] entrepreneurs have that are not
[3:02:33] met with that western model so
[3:02:36] that
[3:02:38] the building and just to
[3:02:39] continue the work we do and take
[3:02:42] a chance on people like Akila
[3:02:44] right I mean she was gonna make
[3:02:46] it wherever she was where
[3:02:48] fortunate that she partnered and
[3:02:50] paired with us for this kind
[3:02:53] of work but she's also gonna be
[3:02:55] just fine so that is our
[3:03:00] presentation and just want to
[3:03:03] thank you all for your attention
[3:03:06] so we had to present during
[3:03:07] lunch but yeah thank you
[3:03:10] thank you I remember when
[3:03:12] Sheilla and Melissa were first I
[3:03:14] think out
[3:03:16] I'd like to say it seemed like
[3:03:18] it was just
[3:03:24] before yeah way before I don't
[3:03:24] remember them mentioning bonero
[3:03:26] in in anybody's mind or even
[3:03:28] that thought of it but thank
[3:03:29] youpresentative Lindstrom
[3:03:32] madam chairir I just have some
[3:03:33] quick questions. I'm looking
[3:03:35] at your handout which says core
[3:03:37] annual programming and when you
[3:03:39] talk about access to community
[3:03:40] capital
[3:03:42] the first page of this handout
[3:03:44] talks about you being a venture
[3:03:46] capitalist but then it talks
[3:03:48] about giving micro grants
[3:03:51] nonpredatory loans so what
[3:03:53] are you? I mean you've got
[3:03:54] everything under the sun in
[3:03:56] here. what specifically do you
[3:03:58] do iss it venture capital work?
[3:04:00] is it grants what is it
[3:04:03] Yeah I'll I'll get to share that
[3:04:04] it's an evolution, right? So we
[3:04:06] started as a venture capital
[3:04:08] fund we saw that venture capital
[3:04:09] wasn't fitting our entrepreneur
[3:04:10] sector right so we went into
[3:04:12] CDFI right and doing loans went
[3:04:14] through the program at the time
[3:04:17] around10 years ago we didn't
[3:04:18] have many people interested in
[3:04:19] those loans even though they
[3:04:20] were low interest still that
[3:04:22] that apprehension to take out
[3:04:24] loan right debtbased financing.
[3:04:26] So we went specifically in
[3:04:27] grants and grant support of
[3:04:29] course everyone loves grants
[3:04:30] right nonrecoverable grants
[3:04:33] right now we're looking at being
[3:04:35] an intermediary as we know the
[3:04:36] state investment council the
[3:04:38] strategy that's behind that we
[3:04:39] feel like we're a really strong
[3:04:40] intermediary and we feel like
[3:04:42] we're really strong fiscal
[3:04:43] sponsor that does programming so
[3:04:45] I'll let Liz kind of share that
[3:04:48] we actually also with our
[3:04:49] with our rooted relative fund
[3:04:51] you could also share about that
[3:04:52] structure.
[3:04:54] so I I feel like we're doing a
[3:04:56] redo for everything so we're not
[3:04:59] in venture capital anymore I
[3:05:01] think you know I can argue that
[3:05:04] we're taking risks on people but
[3:05:08] really we're not looking at it
[3:05:10] that way we are one of three
[3:05:13] pilot nonprofits to in arizona
[3:05:17] and one here via RCAc to run
[3:05:21] the rooted relative fund so
[3:05:24] this is one of the community
[3:05:26] capital pieces we offer3% at
[3:05:31] a loans up to $250,000 so we
[3:05:38] have this for three years we're
[3:05:40] just starting our3rd year of it
[3:05:43] we're supporting CJ
[3:05:47] Bernal in Taos pueblo and Don
[3:05:50] butterfly cafe so we came in
[3:05:53] with the
[3:05:54] you know the capital stack he
[3:05:56] needed to convert a restaurant
[3:05:59] outside Taos pueblo we helped
[3:06:02] other make other folks like him
[3:06:06] nicole Arthun who came from
[3:06:09] changing women initiative and is
[3:06:11] starting you to be brief. OK
[3:06:18] OK so it's a3% loan that's what
[3:06:18] you offer
[3:06:20] and is that a flat rate or is
[3:06:23] that does that change with
[3:06:25] interest it is a flat rate3% so
[3:06:31] in case you were before another
[3:06:33] committee through the chair and
[3:06:34] then to the to the rep apologize
[3:06:37] yeah madam chairirpresentative
[3:06:41] Luundstrom apologies
[3:06:44] so instead of the native CDy
[3:06:47] that we're part of we knew that
[3:06:49] we had
[3:06:50] to do something differently so
[3:06:52] we went with two different loans
[3:06:54] that are relationshipbased loans
[3:06:57] one is co op Capital which is on
[3:07:01] air which is a5% fixed rate loan
[3:07:03] up to50,000 dollars the other is
[3:07:07] rooted relative fund which is up
[3:07:10] to 250,000 that's a3% so we have
[3:07:15] the capacity of lending3 million
[3:07:16] dollars
[3:07:20] we've lent so far one.05 million
[3:07:25] over the past two years were now
[3:07:28] building a program around it
[3:07:30] because we see the need so
[3:07:32] relationship based lending
[3:07:35] so that's what we turned it into
[3:07:38] versus just regular bank
[3:07:41] loans or lending
[3:07:44] Yeah I
[3:07:45] madam chairir and presenters, I
[3:07:48] appreciate you bringing this up
[3:07:49] but
[3:07:50] I live in this world so it's not
[3:07:54] that I'm trying to to poke
[3:07:57] holes through this. I just want
[3:07:59] to understand it. I wonders
[3:08:00] understand what you're actually
[3:08:01] doing here because
[3:08:02] when you talk I would take that
[3:08:04] whole venture capital thing out
[3:08:06] of here because the first thing
[3:08:07] I thought when I looked at that
[3:08:08] is how much do you guys get of
[3:08:10] the company? How much do you own
[3:08:12] of the companies that you helped
[3:08:12] them
[3:08:14] but I'm glad you're not doing
[3:08:15] that and I'm glad you're not
[3:08:18] because I can't imagine any
[3:08:20] small entrepreneur coming to you
[3:08:22] and asking for those kind of
[3:08:23] loans either
[3:08:24] so just trying to trying to
[3:08:26] get my arms around what you're
[3:08:28] trying to do now as a nonprofit
[3:08:31] it's hard for us the state as a
[3:08:34] state
[3:08:35] to provide
[3:08:36] capital outlay or even general
[3:08:39] appropriation funds to
[3:08:41] nonprofits you have to have a
[3:08:43] fiscal agent that can accept
[3:08:45] those funds do you have somebody
[3:08:47] like that or did you know
[3:08:55] yes madam chair andres
[3:08:59] Lindstrom where I did not
[3:09:00] know that I needed a physical to
[3:09:03] accept those funds
[3:09:07] we can talk offline about that
[3:09:08] or anyone can help you with
[3:09:10] it but I I was just curious how
[3:09:12] that was going to work we we are
[3:09:13] not allowed
[3:09:14] to give funding directly to
[3:09:18] nonprofits especially for
[3:09:20] capital purposes
[3:09:21] but this programming looks very
[3:09:24] intriguing and I'm surprised
[3:09:25] that it wouldn't fit under some
[3:09:27] of our existing programs
[3:09:30] just just bring that to your
[3:09:32] attention thank you madam chair
[3:09:34] thank you thank youpresentative.
[3:09:36] Any other questions from
[3:09:37] committee members?
[3:09:38] Representative roybarabballero.
[3:09:40] thank you madam chair and thank
[3:09:42] you very much I I do understand
[3:09:44] fully what you're doing. I've
[3:09:45] done this
[3:09:46] probably when it
[3:09:47] we were trailblazing this whole
[3:09:50] concept of community economic
[3:09:52] development
[3:09:53] that approach was done in the
[3:09:57] early1980s actually it was
[3:09:59] an experimental federal
[3:10:01] program that began under the
[3:10:05] Reagan administration's
[3:10:07] self-help concepts
[3:10:08] right that was a long time ago.
[3:10:10] So we set up an entity similar
[3:10:12] to yours in southern end of
[3:10:14] southern New Mexico and
[3:10:17] El Paso region
[3:10:20] excuse me and again as I said it
[3:10:22] was ahead of its time
[3:10:23] it was also sponsored through
[3:10:25] the Development training
[3:10:26] institute out of Baltimore at
[3:10:28] Maryland which is where I got my
[3:10:30] certification madam chairir. So
[3:10:32] I I'm I'm fully aware of what
[3:10:36] you're attempting to do and what
[3:10:38] you're doing actually so I have
[3:10:40] a couple of questions and that
[3:10:41] is
[3:10:44] we do have and I think you
[3:10:46] mentioned it the
[3:10:48] state in investment co, can you
[3:10:53] explain a little bit more what
[3:10:55] did you establish a relationship
[3:10:57] with the SIC?
[3:10:59] madam chairirpresentative
[3:11:02] Caballero we are we are
[3:11:02] currently establishing that
[3:11:05] relationship with the state
[3:11:06] investment council we're trying
[3:11:07] to find out what our niche is
[3:11:09] you know we know that they they
[3:11:10] have invested over $2 billion in
[3:11:13] over40 different venture capital
[3:11:14] funds and we're wanting to just
[3:11:15] again build relations find any
[3:11:17] clues that you all have. this is
[3:11:19] exactly why we're here just
[3:11:21] making those introductions
[3:11:21] because we yeah we feel like we
[3:11:23] can help
[3:11:24] the state. thank you madam Chair
[3:11:26] and thank you. I think to
[3:11:28] continue to establish that
[3:11:30] relationship is important also
[3:11:32] the relationship with the New
[3:11:33] Mexico finance Authority I
[3:11:36] think that
[3:11:36] you they will explain to you the
[3:11:40] various steps that would be
[3:11:41] necessary for your entity to be
[3:11:44] able to enter into a
[3:11:47] relationship at the state level
[3:11:49] and address the the questions
[3:11:51] that have come up with by
[3:11:52] Representative Luundstrom and
[3:11:54] other andpresentative Lumstrom
[3:11:55] and
[3:11:56] it it
[3:12:00] it will guide you in terms of
[3:12:03] the steps that you need to
[3:12:05] follow in building that
[3:12:07] relationship because this is a
[3:12:09] fine area of
[3:12:10] concentration you have
[3:12:14] identified the downtown
[3:12:15] Albuquerque revitalization, the
[3:12:17] ethical Ai agricultural work as
[3:12:20] your focus I guess your your
[3:12:22] focus
[3:12:23] in terms of
[3:12:25] fundraising and I think it's
[3:12:28] really important those three
[3:12:30] areas agricultural work madam
[3:12:32] chairir is vitally important
[3:12:33] right now because we've got to
[3:12:35] bring in that indigenous
[3:12:38] knowledge that we have in terms
[3:12:40] of agriculture and food
[3:12:42] preservation
[3:12:43] we're faced with a climate
[3:12:45] crisis we're also faced with an
[3:12:48] unwanted war we're also faced
[3:12:50] with a very
[3:12:51] gloomy future in terms of water
[3:12:57] in terms of pollution of our
[3:13:00] air and land and destruction of
[3:13:02] our land so a lot of these and
[3:13:05] so we've got to bring back that
[3:13:07] indigenous knowledge madam
[3:13:09] chair to help us find ways to
[3:13:12] preserve food for the future
[3:13:15] should we faced and when it's
[3:13:19] not going to happen in our
[3:13:19] lifetime I'm worried about our
[3:13:21] children and grandchildren and
[3:13:22] great grandchild
[3:13:23] re n because they may be faced
[3:13:24] with well I don't know in our
[3:13:27] lifetime we may face invasion of
[3:13:29] our utilities or the outages
[3:13:32] more and more outages and lack
[3:13:34] of water we already heard this
[3:13:35] morning madam chairir that we
[3:13:37] have communities which is
[3:13:38] appalling to me that are
[3:13:41] faced with all those conditions
[3:13:43] still
[3:13:44] in this time period
[3:13:46] so I just want to make sure
[3:13:49] that
[3:13:50] we establish you as a a
[3:13:53] real strong place within again
[3:13:58] New Mexico finance Authority and
[3:14:00] the state Investment co in
[3:14:01] particular those two entities so
[3:14:03] that you can be of further
[3:14:05] service to our
[3:14:08] ribes nations and pueblos and
[3:14:10] bring bring all of that success
[3:14:12] forward and last point is I do
[3:14:14] want to commend you and your
[3:14:16] funder acknowledgements
[3:14:17] because you you have tapped into
[3:14:20] the US economic development,
[3:14:22] small business and the
[3:14:25] administration for Native
[3:14:26] Americans those were all
[3:14:27] entities that we were
[3:14:30] so they were very strong support
[3:14:32] so thank you very much thank you
[3:14:34] madam chair
[3:14:36] madamirpresentative Caballero
[3:14:36] thank you so much for your words
[3:14:38] we also received atl grant
[3:14:40] from the Mexico Economic
[3:14:41] Development to become a
[3:14:43] certified incubator and
[3:14:44] accelerator so that I think that
[3:14:45] also answers your
[3:14:46] questionpresentative Liundstrom
[3:14:48] as well so we definitely want to
[3:14:49] stay in conversations we want
[3:14:51] just more Face time you know we
[3:14:52] hear that a lot of people have
[3:14:54] never heard of New Mexico
[3:14:55] community capital so that's also
[3:14:57] a reason why we're here we want
[3:14:58] to make sure that we're in
[3:14:59] community making the trips out
[3:15:01] to gallup and other locations
[3:15:02] and lastly we also
[3:15:04] helped bidi Baoos Zachariah
[3:15:07] Mary ben buy a four acre farm
[3:15:09] outside of Farmington in aztec,
[3:15:11] New Mexico and help them with
[3:15:13] their freeze drying operation
[3:15:15] and baby food line. so thank
[3:15:17] you.
[3:15:18] thank youpresentative
[3:15:20] any other questions for members
[3:15:23] so
[3:15:23] you want a million dollars to do
[3:15:27] building.
[3:15:30] madam chairir we do but we
[3:15:33] also I think we're a s re kind
[3:15:35] of framing that for programming
[3:15:37] so we're not asking asking for
[3:15:38] capital
[3:15:40] at this point that that that's a
[3:15:41] whole different thing now
[3:15:44] willing to do that but what's
[3:15:47] your background akila what did
[3:15:48] you get a degree at Stanford or
[3:15:51] what what what kind of or yeah
[3:15:54] so I like I said I'm from south
[3:15:56] of Gallup and I primarily live
[3:15:57] there now. I got a bachelor of
[3:16:00] fine arts from Universityiv of
[3:16:01] New Mexico and then I went
[3:16:03] and took care of my grandma into
[3:16:04] hospice up until 2018 and then I
[3:16:07] kind of entered theXR augmented
[3:16:09] reality technology scene
[3:16:11] through a nontraditional route
[3:16:13] so I did a lot of
[3:16:14] like coding boot camps but what
[3:16:16] I did is that I attended
[3:16:18] hackathons at like MIt and
[3:16:20] Stanford joined teams and then
[3:16:22] that's how I won the awards
[3:16:23] there and the reason I ask is
[3:16:25] because when one of the
[3:16:27] granddaughters too wanted
[3:16:29] I believe graphic arts degree
[3:16:32] good didn't have any here in New
[3:16:33] Mexico are higher education
[3:16:35] institutions didn't offer so she
[3:16:37] had to go out of state and what
[3:16:39] I'm reading too with some of our
[3:16:41] higher education institutions
[3:16:43] you went through fine arts but
[3:16:46] you probably just had one or two
[3:16:47] classes in digital or technology
[3:16:50] yeah it was only just a few that
[3:16:52] were offered but that's kind of
[3:16:53] where I really saw coding as
[3:16:56] an avenue for me and then
[3:16:58] that it exactly like
[3:17:00] I had to join a I received an
[3:17:02] immersive technology fellowship
[3:17:04] that enabled me to travel
[3:17:05] between Los Angeles and New York
[3:17:07] City to learn about social
[3:17:09] entrepreneurship coupled withXR
[3:17:12] technologies so that's kind of
[3:17:13] like what really was
[3:17:14] foundational for me and then
[3:17:16] the supporting the supportive
[3:17:18] environment that NMCc provide
[3:17:20] was really
[3:17:21] huge for me because like even
[3:17:24] I've had family members talk
[3:17:26] down on me saying like why are
[3:17:28] you going down this
[3:17:29] nontraditional path like you
[3:17:30] should just get a regular job
[3:17:31] you know like not believing in
[3:17:33] the vision so like I think that
[3:17:35] I think a lot of entrepreneurs
[3:17:37] we can face an environment like
[3:17:40] that but when we step into a
[3:17:41] supportive environment like NMCc
[3:17:43] that I think is a really like
[3:17:47] a local environment that was
[3:17:49] really helpful for me on my
[3:17:50] journey
[3:17:51] and you think that's one thing
[3:17:52] that I'm not I mean we do try to
[3:17:54] do stuff through our career
[3:17:56] technical education
[3:17:57] but when we talk about a lot of
[3:18:00] this doing with the coding and
[3:18:02] online I don't think our
[3:18:03] curriculum
[3:18:06] still with the traditional
[3:18:08] route but we're not adapting
[3:18:11] very much very quickly and I
[3:18:13] think that's where we end up
[3:18:15] lacking very much behind. Yeah.
[3:18:17] so one of my funders that is
[3:18:19] actually most likely gonna be
[3:18:21] renewed before the end of the
[3:18:22] year and that's the fiscal
[3:18:24] the funding went through the
[3:18:25] these guys as a fiscal agent
[3:18:28] that is the next mission is
[3:18:30] programming especially on the
[3:18:32] Navajo Nation and then
[3:18:34] there's also another source of
[3:18:34] fun
[3:18:36] ding that glittering world girl
[3:18:37] is tapping into to bring
[3:18:41] technologyXR technology
[3:18:42] programming associated with
[3:18:44] mural creation so it's like art
[3:18:45] and technology like s steam
[3:18:48] into Bernnailo County as well so
[3:18:50] yeah and I think that with
[3:18:53] with the budget cuts that
[3:18:56] schools have been seeing this
[3:18:57] could be a model too that
[3:18:59] programming that goes into
[3:19:01] schools and that they don't have
[3:19:03] to fund it themselves so you did
[3:19:06] receive
[3:19:06] money from the nation and that's
[3:19:07] the thing I'm kind of so the the
[3:19:09] bit confused about in some sense
[3:19:12] because you're saying you're the
[3:19:13] only native American nonprofit
[3:19:15] yes you're probably the only
[3:19:17] nonprofit but our tribes nations
[3:19:19] and pueblos do there do you have
[3:19:22] their own economic development
[3:19:23] money but you did not receive it
[3:19:25] or you didn't qualify for it. I
[3:19:28] madam chairir, I I have not
[3:19:32] received money from the Navajo
[3:19:34] Nation.
[3:19:35] you didn't qualify or you didn't
[3:19:37] never applied or what what what
[3:19:39] do you to be clear I did receive
[3:19:41] their the hardship assistance
[3:19:43] that was for the artisans
[3:19:46] during COVID that's the that's
[3:19:48] what I've received from the
[3:19:48] Navajo Nation that was for
[3:19:51] small businesses and artisans
[3:19:52] for COID during theOID pandemic
[3:19:55] but I honestly have not even
[3:19:59] tried to see if I could apply
[3:20:00] for funding from the Navajo
[3:20:02] Nation past that
[3:20:04] so then that's the thing I'm
[3:20:06] wondering too with the nonpro
[3:20:08] you know a nonprofit as far as a
[3:20:09] resource too is that the funding
[3:20:12] also
[3:20:16] that you also put them in touch
[3:20:17] with their own tribes nations
[3:20:18] and publiclos because they find
[3:20:20] that as the fiscal agent that's
[3:20:22] where our money would be
[3:20:22] funneled to to LEA
[3:20:24] in that way and that our tribes
[3:20:27] nations of pueblos can apply for
[3:20:29] it to implement these programs
[3:20:31] within there as far as
[3:20:32] sovereignty and when you were
[3:20:35] speaking about just women
[3:20:36] receiving something like that
[3:20:38] but that I don't think is
[3:20:39] something we do in general we
[3:20:41] try to it's not about sex it's
[3:20:44] just about you know making
[3:20:46] sure everybody has that
[3:20:47] opportunity equal opportunity
[3:20:49] for the funding so very
[3:20:51] interesting but I like very
[3:20:53] much needed for what you're
[3:20:54] doing
[3:20:55] but you know we need further
[3:20:56] discussion and clarity so I do
[3:20:58] offer you to you know talk to
[3:21:00] our members here to to
[3:21:08] ation and even as far as
[3:21:09] moving forward in need I don't
[3:21:11] know if you have any closing
[3:21:11] comments
[3:21:15] madam chairirpresentative
[3:21:18] senators they just want to thank
[3:21:20] you for your patience and time
[3:21:23] and attention and this is
[3:21:27] really important work to us and
[3:21:29] I feel that
[3:21:31] we do an amazing heartfelt
[3:21:36] job with community and we want
[3:21:40] to see it continue so if there
[3:21:43] are opportunities you know of
[3:21:46] that we don't know and to be
[3:21:49] honest I am not as familiar. I
[3:21:53] can talk about grants all day
[3:21:56] longvi donors that kind of thing
[3:21:58] so much the the state facing and
[3:22:01] don't so
[3:22:02] yeah I just want to say thank
[3:22:05] you I appreciate your help and
[3:22:07] if you have any other
[3:22:09] recommendations or tips ok
[3:22:12] wonderful
[3:22:13] do you know thank you so much
[3:22:16] have a very good day thank you
[3:22:18] thank you and now we will move
[3:22:21] on to public comment
[3:22:24] with our people here
[3:22:26] and we don't have anybody online
[3:22:31] so we don't
[3:22:34] 78 people
[3:22:38] So I think Peter's doing it
[3:22:41] oh he's don't say
[3:22:43] someone can call Bill Lee
[3:22:45] outside
[3:22:49] I'll text him. OK
[3:22:51] we can we'll do one before
[3:22:54] before Peter with Peter in there
[3:22:56] with him too
[3:22:59] can Ken's not here
[3:23:02] reagan
[3:23:04] Hawthorne
[3:23:05] may come up introduce yourself
[3:23:10] Good afternoon madam chair
[3:23:42] members of the committee
[3:23:44] thank you for the invitation and
[3:23:45] for the permission to speak. I
[3:23:47] am Reagan Hawthorne. I am from
[3:23:49] the magnolito chapter and the
[3:23:52] community services coordinator
[3:23:53] there at manualito have been
[3:23:54] with manualitto chapter since
[3:23:56] November of last year
[3:23:59] just about a month ago I
[3:24:00] received an invitation through
[3:24:02] email to sit before the
[3:24:04] committee and express some
[3:24:05] thoughts about believe it was
[3:24:07] capital outlay
[3:24:09] I shared that invitation with
[3:24:10] our chapter officials and Mr
[3:24:14] Daniel Lee our chapter president
[3:24:15] is here with me today. I have
[3:24:17] not come with a script per se
[3:24:20] but would have come with is a
[3:24:21] message and a couple of
[3:24:23] inquiries so I'll allow Mr. Lee
[3:24:25] to introduce himself.
[3:24:30] good afternoon. chair
[3:24:31] and committee thank you for
[3:24:34] inviting us and then
[3:24:38] it's like Reagan said my CSE
[3:24:39] and
[3:24:41] then do a little bit of a
[3:24:42] presentation and we'll just do
[3:24:45] it offhands instead of having
[3:24:47] notes and all that so
[3:24:48] thank you
[3:24:54] Again madam chair members of the
[3:24:55] committee representing
[3:24:58] mannuitto chapter first and
[3:24:59] foremost we are a smaller
[3:25:02] chapter our our service area
[3:25:04] probably covers just under1,000
[3:25:06] individuals now who are
[3:25:08] individuals we have numerous
[3:25:11] capital outlay projects we have
[3:25:14] I believe14 projects upwards of
[3:25:17] $6 million that are in the in in
[3:25:19] the cooker so to speak we have a
[3:25:21] number that are very very active
[3:25:23] we have a number
[3:25:24] that are being delayed the
[3:25:26] biggest portion of the delayed
[3:25:28] projects falls upon our
[3:25:30] electrification projects
[3:25:32] the biggest
[3:25:33] obstacle for our electrification
[3:25:36] power line residential projects
[3:25:38] is right of way access given
[3:25:41] the various land statuses that
[3:25:43] we have in your manually to
[3:25:44] chapter of course we're on
[3:25:45] Navajo Trust land we're also on
[3:25:47] allotted land we are on state
[3:25:50] land we have a number of issues
[3:25:52] that are very very challenging
[3:25:54] so getting the rights of way is
[3:25:56] a very very extensive experience
[3:25:59] I am looking right now at one
[3:26:02] particular project that has
[3:26:03] been on the books for manuallito
[3:26:06] chapters since 2008 and the
[3:26:09] biggest hindrance there is the
[3:26:11] right of way access. now the
[3:26:14] the contracting company
[3:26:16] continental Divide has done
[3:26:17] their share of reaching out.
[3:26:18] They are in now in the fourth
[3:26:21] round of sending out appeals for
[3:26:24] right of way through allottees
[3:26:26] and things of that nature. So
[3:26:28] and where I'm going with this is
[3:26:30] I I would like to see some sort
[3:26:33] of a
[3:26:33] an amendment or an addressing of
[3:26:36] an issue here in these kinds of
[3:26:38] situations where where a lottes
[3:26:41] and other land issues are really
[3:26:44] an obstacle to getting the right
[3:26:46] of way in for these
[3:26:47] electrification projects we
[3:26:50] have4 clients on this particular
[3:26:51] project that have been waiting
[3:26:52] for power for
[3:26:54] a number of years 20 since 2008
[3:26:57] and if there if there could be
[3:26:59] some some investigatory
[3:27:01] committee or something perhaps
[3:27:02] we can offer some solutions
[3:27:05] perhaps manuallito chapter
[3:27:06] could be more forward more more
[3:27:08] proactive in reaching out to
[3:27:12] the allottees but the biggest
[3:27:15] obstacle that we're seeing is
[3:27:17] right of way just gaining
[3:27:20] right of way
[3:27:23] whether whether it be you know
[3:27:26] the the allottes on the
[3:27:26] allotment lands there are some
[3:27:28] state land issues we we're
[3:27:28] just
[3:27:33] I'm going to say we're we're a
[3:27:34] little frustrated at it of
[3:27:36] course they're there are there
[3:27:37] are other issues there are there
[3:27:39] are some systems systemic issues
[3:27:40] within the the processes
[3:27:43] withnavo Nation there are other
[3:27:45] issues there but the biggest
[3:27:46] problem we have is gaining right
[3:27:48] of way so for the
[3:27:50] electrification
[3:27:52] secondly I would appeal to
[3:27:55] this committee
[3:27:58] to advocate for a voice in an
[3:28:02] area called manualito Big House
[3:28:04] Ruins. It is a national historic
[3:28:07] landmark there are3 families
[3:28:11] that have been in that area
[3:28:14] that that that that that's their
[3:28:15] homeland and they do not have
[3:28:18] the basic
[3:28:20] infrastructure needed they do
[3:28:23] not have water lines they do not
[3:28:25] have power
[3:28:26] I am meeting Wednesday with
[3:28:29] these families on what I have
[3:28:31] coined as the big house task
[3:28:35] forcece. What I want to do is
[3:28:37] gain an audience with our
[3:28:40] Navonation source and
[3:28:42] Developmentittee to see if we
[3:28:42] can't advocate that this
[3:28:45] property which is on state land
[3:28:47] there is on the fringes of this
[3:28:50] property
[3:28:50] a power line
[3:28:53] one of the families on this
[3:28:54] property does have power
[3:28:56] but there are two other families
[3:28:58] there that have no power and
[3:28:59] have no water. the families that
[3:29:01] are that are without the water
[3:29:03] they do
[3:29:04] live on a cistern system
[3:29:08] but the fellow's getting old and
[3:29:10] he can't operate that cistern
[3:29:12] and these things these are not
[3:29:14] gonna change so my petition here
[3:29:16] particularly tends to a voice
[3:29:21] perhaps a voice with the state
[3:29:23] land board with from our
[3:29:25] constituents there at manualito
[3:29:29] through thenavo Nation Resource
[3:29:29] and Development Committee. I
[3:29:31] don't pretend to be a a
[3:29:32] magnanimous voice for everybody
[3:29:35] but I believe if we have the
[3:29:36] backing of our own council that
[3:29:38] we can talk to the the New
[3:29:40] Mexico State Land Commission and
[3:29:41] through this committee here
[3:29:42] perhaps gain
[3:29:43] gain some ground on bringing
[3:29:48] infrastructure to these families
[3:29:49] that live on the on the the
[3:29:51] perimeters of this historic
[3:29:54] landmark so those are my two
[3:29:56] messages today
[3:30:01] Yeah I like to add to that we
[3:30:04] did contact
[3:30:06] Santape
[3:30:08] and
[3:30:10] they just told us to get
[3:30:12] representative like you guys and
[3:30:14] saying that ok
[3:30:17] we we know about the spartan
[3:30:20] all this
[3:30:22] other stuff like GPS and all
[3:30:25] that and you know you guys know
[3:30:27] whereabouts this place is then
[3:30:32] they recommendations and then
[3:30:34] that way they can somebody from
[3:30:36] the commission can override it
[3:30:38] and that's the reason why we're
[3:30:40] here and
[3:30:42] even with the roads that's the
[3:30:45] reason why some of our capital
[3:30:46] outlay went and reverted back
[3:30:48] and we tried working
[3:30:51] with the
[3:30:54] county commissioners
[3:30:55] and then
[3:30:57] some of our
[3:31:00] projects
[3:31:00] went and reverted back and it's
[3:31:03] due to the consents like he said
[3:31:07] well right away and then now
[3:31:09] they said that they revoked it
[3:31:11] all the
[3:31:13] MOUs so
[3:31:15] we don't know
[3:31:17] you know what's going to happen
[3:31:19] now because a lot of people that
[3:31:21] are in a community has
[3:31:24] kids that go to school
[3:31:27] and at the same time they
[3:31:29] commute
[3:31:30] to gallup
[3:31:32] so
[3:31:35] with that being said
[3:31:37] we should like to have them help
[3:31:40] from you guys
[3:31:40] as far as
[3:31:44] and doing all this other stuff
[3:31:46] and then that way we can move on
[3:31:48] with our projects and improve on
[3:31:50] some of the roads and provide
[3:31:52] service like water service and
[3:31:55] power line to these community
[3:31:57] members that's what we're asking
[3:31:59] of today and at the same time
[3:32:04] on the other hand
[3:32:06] my wife is a teacher in Tohachi
[3:32:10] and they moved us to
[3:32:12] twin lakes and we do have issues
[3:32:16] with the power line and water
[3:32:19] there's no power there's no
[3:32:21] pressure in the water most of
[3:32:23] the time
[3:32:24] and then in the middle of my
[3:32:27] wife doing her lesson plan
[3:32:30] the power goes off there's no
[3:32:32] surcharge or anything we
[3:32:35] complained about that so many
[3:32:37] times
[3:32:38] every time it goes out we
[3:32:40] complain to
[3:32:41] NTUA
[3:32:44] they had done nothing
[3:32:45] and even our our street light
[3:32:49] right outside our trailer
[3:32:50] it just goes out they haven't
[3:32:53] done nothing about it
[3:32:54] so
[3:32:57] that's
[3:32:58] the other thing that I wanted to
[3:33:00] add to twin Lakes that were
[3:33:02] here present
[3:33:04] during the presentation
[3:33:06] thank you
[3:33:08] thank you thank you for your
[3:33:10] your words there and we'll move
[3:33:12] on to our next Bille and then
[3:33:15] I don't know if Peter is
[3:33:20] Oh yeah so this is public
[3:33:22] comment so we don't want to ask
[3:33:23] questions but I'll talk
[3:33:41] Good afternoon madam chair
[3:33:43] members of the committee staff
[3:33:45] thank you for allowing me a few
[3:33:46] minutes today my name is Bill
[3:33:48] Lee I'm with KJg Strategy
[3:33:50] registered lobbyists for
[3:33:53] Levanova a company devoted to
[3:33:54] helping people living with
[3:33:57] drug resistant epilepsy or what
[3:33:59] is referred to as DRE I want
[3:34:02] to say thank you to
[3:34:03] Representative Lindstrom. She
[3:34:04] along with Representative
[3:34:05] Herndon have sponsored
[3:34:06] legislation concerning this
[3:34:09] issue that I bring before you
[3:34:10] today during public comment
[3:34:12] leavingvanova manufactures
[3:34:13] what is called a vagus nerve
[3:34:17] stimulation a BNS therapy
[3:34:18] treatment that can actually
[3:34:19] reduce seizures and improve a
[3:34:21] patient's quality of life. it's
[3:34:23] been approved by the FDA and has
[3:34:24] been been available for ir0
[3:34:26] years. Today what I'd like to
[3:34:28] share more than the the the VNS
[3:34:30] system itself is the impact that
[3:34:33] people living with drug
[3:34:34] resistant epilepsy in a face in
[3:34:37] New Mexico when most people hear
[3:34:39] that word epilepsy they think
[3:34:40] this is a
[3:34:41] condition that can be controlled
[3:34:42] primarily by medication but the
[3:34:44] sad truth is about1 in3
[3:34:46] individuals is not treatable or
[3:34:49] they are not treatable by
[3:34:50] medications and so despite
[3:34:52] trying several anti seizure
[3:34:54] therapies and medications
[3:34:57] these patients are considered to
[3:34:58] have what is called drug
[3:34:59] resistant epilepsy DRE and
[3:35:02] for these patients a seizure is
[3:35:04] more than just an event it can
[3:35:06] actually be life threatening
[3:35:07] and lead to death. as this
[3:35:10] challenge dis
[3:35:12] p ro port ion ate ly affects
[3:35:12] some of New Mexico's most
[3:35:13] vulnerable populations and
[3:35:16] that is why we are in particular
[3:35:18] speaking about this today in
[3:35:19] front of this committeesearch
[3:35:21] shows that Native American
[3:35:22] communities experience a greater
[3:35:24] burden of epilepsy and epilepsy
[3:35:27] related disparities than many
[3:35:29] other populations in fact the
[3:35:30] Navajo nation it is estimated
[3:35:32] alone has about1600 cases of
[3:35:36] drug resistant epilepsy yet
[3:35:39] despite this need New Mexico has
[3:35:40] been left
[3:35:41] with an extraordinary access
[3:35:43] problem and a challenge that
[3:35:45] we still face today. The
[3:35:47] Universityiv of New Mexico
[3:35:48] hospitalspital is the only
[3:35:49] hospital in our state performing
[3:35:51] VNS implant procedures and we
[3:35:54] may soon lose them as the
[3:35:58] only provider in the state the
[3:36:00] reason is simple the low
[3:36:02] medicaid reimbursement to
[3:36:05] hospitals for the procedure is
[3:36:06] far too low and has not changed
[3:36:09] since 2014 when
[3:36:11] an entire state depends on a
[3:36:12] single hospital for access to
[3:36:15] specialized therapy patients and
[3:36:16] families often face of course
[3:36:18] significant barriers manyy must
[3:36:20] travel long distances multiple
[3:36:22] times consultations surgery
[3:36:24] and followup care. Some require
[3:36:26] transportation assistance. this
[3:36:28] includes airlifts from places
[3:36:30] like Gallup others simply do
[3:36:33] not have the financial means and
[3:36:35] the family support of logistical
[3:36:36] ability to make these trips and
[3:36:38] so wait times again as we
[3:36:41] all know for specialists in the
[3:36:42] state can be extraordinarily
[3:36:44] long. All of these barriers
[3:36:47] result in patients continually
[3:36:48] cycling through the emergency
[3:36:50] rooms and through hospital
[3:36:51] admissions resulting in much
[3:36:54] higher costs for not only the
[3:36:55] families but for our own
[3:36:58] healthcare authority here in New
[3:36:58] Mexico because the system just
[3:37:00] keeps recycling these folks
[3:37:02] rather than treating what is
[3:37:04] there
[3:37:04] what we know is that there is
[3:37:07] funding through medicaid
[3:37:09] available and actually the state
[3:37:11] is leaving dollars on the table
[3:37:13] by not getting full
[3:37:14] reimbursement for this
[3:37:16] procedure. we have this issue
[3:37:18] now before thelfC and have put
[3:37:21] that there we may hopefully
[3:37:24] call on Representative
[3:37:26] Lindstrom and Representative
[3:37:26] Herndon again to carry
[3:37:28] legislation just to bolster that
[3:37:29] support in thelfC so this
[3:37:34] is not simply
[3:37:34] a reimbursement discussion it
[3:37:36] really is an access issue it's a
[3:37:39] rural healthcare issue obviously
[3:37:40] and it is a tribal healthcare
[3:37:42] issue today we ask for your
[3:37:44] legislative support to get the
[3:37:46] department to cover the cost to
[3:37:48] help improve the health and
[3:37:49] quality of life for New Mexicans
[3:37:51] dealing with drug resistant
[3:37:52] epilepsy we want to regre again
[3:37:53] Representative Lenstone,
[3:37:56] Representative Herndon who've
[3:37:57] carried this legislation and are
[3:38:00] working to resolve this issue
[3:38:01] along our side and we thank you
[3:38:04] for your time
[3:38:04] thank you for coming to gallup.
[3:38:06] this is my hometown we're glad
[3:38:08] you're here and thank you for
[3:38:10] your commitment to serve New
[3:38:11] Mexicans everywhere with that
[3:38:13] madam chairir, I'll yield. thank
[3:38:16] Thank you Peterammpo
[3:38:28] Yes
[3:38:31] hey hey hey hey come on it
[3:38:33] wasn't it wasn't that bad from
[3:38:35] what I remember
[3:38:37] right madam chair members of the
[3:38:39] committee and guests first
[3:38:41] and foremost I would like to
[3:38:42] welcome you all to gallup
[3:38:44] I know this wasn't the
[3:38:45] planned meeting location but we
[3:38:48] are glad to have you here and we
[3:38:50] would welcome you guys coming
[3:38:51] back anytime for any other
[3:38:52] committees that you might have
[3:38:53] so I hope that you guys have
[3:38:55] felt warm a warm welcome here
[3:38:57] and hopefully we'll see I know I
[3:38:59] will see you guys during
[3:39:00] legislative session and
[3:39:01] hopefully before then as well.
[3:39:03] some of you I know very well
[3:39:05] and some of you I've met maybe
[3:39:06] once or twice over at the
[3:39:08] state capitol and I hope to get
[3:39:09] you to know you as well as my
[3:39:12] my mentor here Bill
[3:39:14] is so he obviously had a little
[3:39:15] bit different of an agenda than
[3:39:17] what I did. I just wanted to
[3:39:18] make sure that you guys felt
[3:39:19] welcome here there is one
[3:39:21] thing that I would like to bring
[3:39:22] to this committee it's been
[3:39:25] talked about
[3:39:25] in other places and maybe you
[3:39:27] guys can give us a legup
[3:39:29] as you know we have been
[3:39:31] flooded in this area not only in
[3:39:33] the gallup area but in McKinley
[3:39:35] County and and across the state
[3:39:37] for that matter
[3:39:38] we are going to need some
[3:39:40] help
[3:39:41] not only in gallup but in the
[3:39:43] county
[3:39:43] to get our flood systems up to
[3:39:47] speed and be able to handle
[3:39:48] capacity now yes this might be
[3:39:50] an abnormal year for storms
[3:39:51] but as you've seen on some of
[3:39:54] the video that's been taken
[3:39:55] especially up in the Mexican
[3:39:57] spprings area and and up in
[3:39:59] northern McKinley County I mean
[3:40:00] they've had entire roads that
[3:40:02] have been washed out by the
[3:40:03] floods and it's more just
[3:40:05] because we haven't had enough
[3:40:07] foresight to plan for that kind
[3:40:09] of capacity of water gallup
[3:40:11] also does suffer from that
[3:40:14] you know we have a a majority
[3:40:16] population that is native
[3:40:17] American so I feel that this
[3:40:18] committee is appropriate to
[3:40:19] address to help us at least get
[3:40:21] the
[3:40:21] conversation started on
[3:40:23] possibly upgrading our storm
[3:40:25] drainage systems most if not
[3:40:28] all of our storm drains are only
[3:40:31] partially concreted
[3:40:33] so when you go to bigger urban
[3:40:34] areas most of the storm drainage
[3:40:36] in the arroyos and like in
[3:40:37] Albuquerque and other areas
[3:40:38] they're fully concrete so they
[3:40:39] don't have erosion problems like
[3:40:41] we see here
[3:40:43] when we get runoff from the
[3:40:45] rains that happened in our area
[3:40:47] it comes right through downtown
[3:40:48] Gallup and we get everything
[3:40:50] that comes along with it the
[3:40:51] silt and the the debris and
[3:40:53] everything but the most of
[3:40:55] our arroyo system through the
[3:40:57] gallup area from the Rio Puerco
[3:40:59] is not fully concreted so we
[3:41:04] are constantly having to do
[3:41:05] maintenance on it and I say we
[3:41:06] very loosely it's the community
[3:41:07] it's the city the county they
[3:41:10] they have to constantly maintain
[3:41:11] these because
[3:41:12] we are inundated with silt
[3:41:14] debris mud and we also run into
[3:41:17] jurisdictional issues from what
[3:41:19] I've been told that where the
[3:41:20] the land is like some of the the
[3:41:23] people that have presented today
[3:41:25] the land is owned by the state
[3:41:26] the land is owned by BNSf or
[3:41:28] other entities and it's hard to
[3:41:31] acquire the proper permission to
[3:41:33] do maintenance on the storm
[3:41:35] drainage system. So I just
[3:41:36] wanted to start the conversation
[3:41:38] here I've I've talked with
[3:41:39] the the city manager about it. I
[3:41:41] haven't had the chance to talk
[3:41:42] with the
[3:41:42] county about it but I figured
[3:41:44] that we could start the the the
[3:41:45] conversation and maybe I can
[3:41:47] work with our my local
[3:41:48] legislators so that we can get
[3:41:50] this maybe get something
[3:41:55] Other than that I would again
[3:41:56] welcome here to gallup. I hope
[3:41:58] you guys enjoy your time
[3:41:59] here. I know it sounds like
[3:42:00] you're going to Aamma. I don't
[3:42:01] know if you're spending the
[3:42:02] night here but if you need any
[3:42:03] recommendations on where to eat
[3:42:04] dinner or something like that we
[3:42:06] are the visitors center for
[3:42:07] gallup. thank you guys for
[3:42:09] coming.
[3:42:11] a thank you Peter and I have
[3:42:13] joanne as
[3:42:17] left already OK Dorisinnali
[3:42:31] Good evening
[3:42:33] I should say good late evening
[3:42:36] welcome to gallup I'm here again
[3:42:39] to listen to you young ones
[3:42:42] thank you so much for coming
[3:42:44] back to gallup. You had a visit
[3:42:46] in haitichie not too long ago a
[3:42:48] lot of our comments were met in
[3:42:51] everything thank you being a
[3:42:53] young ones learning from our
[3:42:55] elders here
[3:42:58] senator
[3:42:59] senator Charlie, I'd like to
[3:43:01] commend you
[3:43:10] I come from a family of veterans
[3:43:13] during this last flooding we had
[3:43:16] down at zunni boots on the
[3:43:18] ground boots on the ground. she
[3:43:21] was there she had her canoe
[3:43:24] it made me so proud to see you
[3:43:26] young ones there
[3:43:29] question you ask thank you
[3:43:30] beautiful questions I have
[3:43:32] experience working at NCI
[3:43:34] soup kitchen
[3:43:39] I'm a devout Catholic but I
[3:43:41] still sin
[3:43:44] I retired from the BIA thirty5
[3:43:46] years of service at the federal
[3:43:48] building
[3:43:50] I'd like to help at the homeless
[3:43:52] shelter and a soup kitchen here
[3:43:55] in gallup. I invited the
[3:43:57] governor on a few occasions to
[3:43:59] come and join me
[3:44:01] my concern at the soup kitchen
[3:44:03] with theha health in the city of
[3:44:06] Gallup and the mayor who gave
[3:44:08] the report
[3:44:09] I did not hear one
[3:44:11] make a comment. I come from a
[3:44:14] family of veterans how they
[3:44:16] helping our veterans how they're
[3:44:18] meeting the veterans75% of the
[3:44:22] clients there are veterans young
[3:44:24] veterans
[3:44:27] and it's sad it's very sad
[3:44:28] they're being ignored
[3:44:30] I come from a family
[3:44:32] of native
[3:44:34] artists
[3:44:38] I want you to take a visit next
[3:44:40] door all of you go walk down the
[3:44:43] streets except Richardson's pond
[3:44:46] you can't pond there but anyway
[3:44:48] keep going
[3:44:51] 75 % of our jewelry outlet here
[3:44:54] in Gallup
[3:44:55] are not owned by native
[3:44:58] Americans
[3:45:00] they're owned by our visitors
[3:45:05] the Arab nation
[3:45:07] a lot of their jewelry you see
[3:45:10] underneath his maiden chi made
[3:45:13] in Korea.
[3:45:15] you want to see the one I'm
[3:45:16] wearing
[3:45:17] it's cheap but you know it still
[3:45:19] works
[3:45:22] I challenge you I challenge you
[3:45:24] to we talk about alcohol tax
[3:45:32] Starting from the east of Gallup
[3:45:32] drive all the way down count the
[3:45:35] dispensaries liquor stores to
[3:45:38] the west side go to the north
[3:45:42] go to the south
[3:45:45] count every one of them please
[3:45:48] alcohol outlets and dispensary
[3:45:52] shops.
[3:45:54] All days dispensary shops here
[3:45:57] in gallup all these alcohol
[3:46:01] the new dispensary shops you see
[3:46:03] in Gallllup are now used to be
[3:46:06] liquor establishments
[3:46:14] That
[3:46:14] information they gave Mrchapatti
[3:46:20] gave here it had75% of
[3:46:21] Navajo's
[3:46:26] here in Gallup who have an
[3:46:29] addiction
[3:46:31] and I've always argued where is
[3:46:34] our alcohol tax co?
[3:46:37] my question today is and I
[3:46:40] invite you to ask this where is
[3:46:44] the dispensary tax going
[3:46:49] Please do that we need to they
[3:46:52] talk about us andnavajos when it
[3:46:55] comes to
[3:46:57] alcoholiclici
[3:47:00] anyway my relatives I call him
[3:47:03] I'm glad to hearpresentative
[3:47:06] Abeta called them our relatives
[3:47:07] it is true we'renavajos
[3:47:09] everybody's related to us they
[3:47:12] are our relatives and when I go
[3:47:14] at the
[3:47:16] homeless in the soup kitchen
[3:47:18] here in Gallup
[3:47:20] I called them in my native
[3:47:22] tongue my brother my sister my
[3:47:25] uncle my grandpa my parents she
[3:47:25] ya sele
[3:47:27] shouldnna
[3:47:31] and their veterans I greet them
[3:47:33] in that way and it feels good
[3:47:36] when I go there because my own
[3:47:38] grandchildren don't call me
[3:47:39] grandma.
[3:47:41] these clients call me from my
[3:47:43] son and I feel wanted needed
[3:47:47] well that's a joke but anyway
[3:47:50] that's all they want to say to
[3:47:51] all of you to please the good
[3:47:54] question to ask about
[3:47:56] NCI to them
[3:47:59] percentage
[3:48:01] discrimination, keep those
[3:48:03] questions coming please keep
[3:48:06] them coming to gallup. Gallup
[3:48:07] needs to hear this
[3:48:10] so that's all I have am I up for
[3:48:13] five minutes or can I go more?
[3:48:13] Yeah
[3:48:15] thank you thank you know you'll
[3:48:18] visit me
[3:48:21] Lary Foster
[3:48:29] good afternoon
[3:48:31] the
[3:48:32] committee here coming from
[3:48:35] different parts of New Mexico
[3:48:37] and I wanted to say a few
[3:48:40] things here some of this was
[3:48:42] stated this morning in the
[3:48:44] presentation by the city of
[3:48:46] Gallup
[3:48:49] their officials a mayor and
[3:48:49] the the city manager
[3:48:52] and the
[3:48:53] mental health department
[3:48:56] of course yeah
[3:49:01] ard ge ant Linibe hadti think so
[3:49:02] my name is Larry Foster
[3:49:04] and my wife is over here maddie
[3:49:08] I'm from the townhouse rockck
[3:49:10] people lankyon in
[3:49:12] adolani manco people
[3:49:16] on the second son of a Navajo
[3:49:18] coat talker
[3:49:20] Here they used to have the code
[3:49:22] talker meetings monthly in here
[3:49:24] in this building
[3:49:26] so
[3:49:26] the perspective of the city
[3:49:29] presentation this mornings
[3:49:32] from their administrative
[3:49:34] some of the data is kind of
[3:49:36] shortcoming
[3:49:37] they might have been using the
[3:49:39] old data or or some missing data
[3:49:42] but it's very well taken but my
[3:49:45] perspective right now is from
[3:49:47] the human rights
[3:49:48] and the civil rights of our the
[3:49:49] indigenous people
[3:49:57] nor cotten nepain that's what
[3:49:57] we're called but the state in
[3:50:00] New Mexico calls usnavajos
[3:50:06] sookota so during their
[3:50:08] rainstorms that we had recently
[3:50:09] we saw a lot of things that
[3:50:12] happened here in Gallup. I think
[3:50:14] that made the city of Gallup
[3:50:15] depressed particularly people
[3:50:18] that live on the north side
[3:50:20] up on 9th Street in Maloney
[3:50:23] the people that lived there they
[3:50:24] were angry
[3:50:26] and then of course they
[3:50:28] were confused about the politics
[3:50:31] of Gallup
[3:50:33] who is in the leadership
[3:50:35] and then of course there
[3:50:38] was a lot of stress
[3:50:41] so
[3:50:41] from that I I gathered there was
[3:50:43] a lot of jealousy among the
[3:50:45] leaders. Most recently we had a
[3:50:48] changeover of the mayor
[3:50:50] so what you're seeing here that
[3:50:52] presented this morning that
[3:50:53] that's a new mayor
[3:50:55] he's involved it's mainly
[3:50:57] administrative
[3:50:59] but I think he's kind of weak
[3:51:01] on human rights, civil rights
[3:51:06] so that's
[3:51:06] directed to the chapters the
[3:51:11] sovereignty issue consolidation
[3:51:21] actct of19781988199 or 208 they
[3:51:21] need to utilize that act over
[3:51:24] here in uhnavajo land
[3:51:28] particularly uhRock Springs,
[3:51:29] Mangnito
[3:51:32] ra cheatuo
[3:51:35] they're gonna build some things
[3:51:36] over here pretty quick and I
[3:51:39] think a lot of the community is
[3:51:40] not well informed on that
[3:51:42] particularly chapters
[3:51:46] so that I don't know why they're
[3:51:47] holding back
[3:51:49] so they shouldn't do that with
[3:51:50] these laws that are in the state
[3:51:52] of New Mexico that are
[3:51:53] implemented 20 years ago
[3:51:57] so along with the increase of
[3:51:59] liquor what was mentioned at
[3:52:01] Speedway
[3:52:03] and then the the the marijuana
[3:52:05] outlets
[3:52:06] that causes a lot of a child
[3:52:10] abandonment what I've seen
[3:52:12] and then they they did
[3:52:14] mention any street birth
[3:52:17] or unsheltered native veterans
[3:52:21] those were the data what they
[3:52:23] had that's what I mean
[3:52:24] misinformation of data
[3:52:28] go over here to westgallllup
[3:52:30] there's a lot of abandoned
[3:52:31] buildings there's graffiti,
[3:52:32] there's potholes our relatives
[3:52:34] are living under the bridges
[3:52:38] Interstate40 tent cities
[3:52:40] and yet deborah Martinez
[3:52:42] mentioned that
[3:52:44] I think that
[3:52:45] my wife and I we go out
[3:52:50] the flea market under the
[3:52:51] culverts yeah they're dangerous
[3:52:53] people are high on fentanyl
[3:52:56] but we try to talk to them we
[3:52:58] try to start a a talking circle
[3:53:01] we went down to the burrito
[3:53:03] project outlet and we weren't
[3:53:06] very welcome because we're
[3:53:07] talking Navajo
[3:53:10] to start talking circle talking
[3:53:12] about the problems in Navajo
[3:53:14] so we let it go
[3:53:17] so I think my recommendation is
[3:53:20] here
[3:53:20] with all these problems that
[3:53:23] one thing I want to mention
[3:53:25] about McKinley County school
[3:53:26] system I think we really need
[3:53:29] to get involved with the
[3:53:29] yasemartinez
[3:53:31] case
[3:53:35] The judge said that a couple of
[3:53:36] months ago the federal funding
[3:53:39] the federal impact aid
[3:53:42] we need to review that a little
[3:53:43] bit more work with the Navajo
[3:53:45] Nation Department of Education
[3:53:46] NDOJ
[3:53:49] that involves it Johnson
[3:53:50] O'malley funds Title 06 and7.
[3:53:55] we don't want to misuse that and
[3:53:57] let it sit somewhere
[3:53:59] that's happening now the lawsuit
[3:54:01] that might come out of that
[3:54:04] so in closing I want to say that
[3:54:07] to improve some of this quality
[3:54:09] of life, my recommendation is
[3:54:11] we need to get a grant rider
[3:54:13] over there at the mayor's office
[3:54:16] let's help the mayor
[3:54:18] see your manager
[3:54:20] and get an indigenous task force
[3:54:23] in order. There's people like
[3:54:25] myself that
[3:54:26] I wanted to to help the city of
[3:54:29] Gallup
[3:54:31] I've been here for my wife and I
[3:54:33] over30 years
[3:54:34] and then to review some of the
[3:54:37] contracts
[3:54:39] I don't know who takes care of
[3:54:40] the contracts over there it
[3:54:41] sounds like it's just one person
[3:54:46] so this is all about the
[3:54:47] public health human rights civil
[3:54:51] rights
[3:54:53] so
[3:54:53] I mentioned to the city manager
[3:54:55] we need to develop MOs with
[3:54:59] others M will you try to
[3:54:59] understand
[3:55:00] thenavajo
[3:55:02] nation and their departments
[3:55:06] health
[3:55:07] mental health how the DOJ
[3:55:10] works over there
[3:55:13] likewise with the surrounding
[3:55:14] tribes Aama and Naguna
[3:55:16] were all part of this area
[3:55:19] this circle so thank you for
[3:55:21] your time
[3:55:26] maddie Foster did you want to
[3:55:44] Colin you're presenting later
[3:55:46] what did you want to do public
[3:55:47] comment or are you
[3:55:52] good
[3:56:11] Actually I signed up I thought
[3:56:14] it was sign in sheet but
[3:56:16] actually I guess I got called
[3:56:18] out called in called up here but
[3:56:21] anyway
[3:56:23] my name is maddie Foster and my
[3:56:26] client is with ondo to by the
[3:56:27] machine touchy nationalinando
[3:56:29] shin the shi cheong a
[3:56:30] a
[3:56:34] I'm a lady here and my husband
[3:56:40] he's said th30 years actually
[3:56:42] it's50 years
[3:56:43] so
[3:56:43] we've beenga was a girlup we
[3:56:47] live and he was a galla with our
[3:56:48] children and our grandchildren
[3:56:50] and they all go to school at
[3:56:53] Gallup McKinney County School.
[3:56:55] so
[3:56:55] I guess what my complaint would
[3:57:01] be
[3:57:02] I lived in Galla for most of my
[3:57:05] years and I see what's going on
[3:57:10] and
[3:57:11] it's heartbreaking as a mother
[3:57:15] as a ali and and thennavajo lady
[3:57:18] that you see a relatives on
[3:57:22] the streets
[3:57:26] they all need help
[3:57:28] I seen a little girl she was
[3:57:30] about 9 or10 years old on the
[3:57:32] street and I thought what is she
[3:57:35] doing here? Where's her parents
[3:57:39] and there she went
[3:57:40] following this one person older
[3:57:45] man
[3:57:46] and he does heartbreaking so us
[3:57:53] ladies as woman native women we
[3:57:55] need to do a lot of
[3:57:56] work
[3:58:00] like they're saying outreach my
[3:58:03] husband and I are both retired
[3:58:05] our work atingate High School
[3:58:07] for48 years and eight months
[3:58:09] with the students and
[3:58:12] my husband worked at PhS forth38
[3:58:15] years so we're both retired and
[3:58:17] we do a lot of volunteer work
[3:58:20] no right now we don't get paid
[3:58:23] we just go out there who needs
[3:58:25] help or maybe one of the
[3:58:27] projects needs help or somebody
[3:58:30] that needs food
[3:58:32] so this takes most of our time
[3:58:34] and whoever
[3:58:37] we go
[3:58:43] we just offer our help
[3:58:47] on the west side too there's a
[3:58:49] lot of graffiti and
[3:58:52] like my husband said there's a
[3:58:54] lot of buildings or boarded up
[3:58:58] need to bring more business or
[3:59:00] clean it up
[3:59:03] and
[3:59:04] even at Gallllup High School we
[3:59:07] mention it to the superintendent
[3:59:09] that left at the pavement
[3:59:12] needs to be paved
[3:59:15] and
[3:59:16] the other day I think one of
[3:59:20] they got excused early because
[3:59:21] the air conditioner or something
[3:59:25] that wasn't working so we gallup
[3:59:27] high needs a new school
[3:59:31] buildingallllup High School and
[3:59:35] we need a lot of parents
[3:59:37] involvement that's what we're
[3:59:39] lacking too
[3:59:41] thats we try to represent a lot
[3:59:43] of native students atallllup
[3:59:45] high school where they mean
[3:59:48] being mistreated
[3:59:50] and we go to to go to the school
[3:59:52] board meeting and try to voice
[3:59:54] our opinion but they always call
[3:59:57] the security saying there comes
[3:59:59] a fosters better call the
[3:59:59] security so
[4:00:05] ashley we're trying to help help
[4:00:06] the students or represent them
[4:00:10] and also the JOM money too is to
[4:00:13] sit in atonderrock and where we
[4:00:18] used to sponsored nativist
[4:00:23] culture at Gallllup High
[4:00:23] School
[4:00:24] and at tourpin
[4:00:28] that that's not happening
[4:00:30] so when you are jail and money
[4:00:33] back to the school and we talked
[4:00:37] with Bo Nagrin
[4:00:38] that
[4:00:41] this is how our native students
[4:00:43] are getting treated amongcinney
[4:00:45] County School. he was going to
[4:00:47] set up our office here and all
[4:00:50] our native unsheltered
[4:00:52] relatives to on the streets I'll
[4:00:56] work with them it never happened
[4:00:58] so when he was campaigning again
[4:01:00] at the flea market approached
[4:01:02] him. where's the office for you
[4:01:06] promised us when you were
[4:01:07] campaigning I'll work on it. No
[4:01:10] your term is over
[4:01:12] so we approached the new
[4:01:15] administration Justin Jones and
[4:01:18] he said he's gonna work on it
[4:01:21] with the gallupmcckinley County
[4:01:22] School
[4:01:24] why our natives are getting
[4:01:26] discriminated
[4:01:28] and
[4:01:28] with the native unsheltered
[4:01:32] relatives too we need we need
[4:01:35] help we told him
[4:01:38] so this and his campaign
[4:01:40] hopefully he pays a lot of
[4:01:43] attention to what everybody is
[4:01:46] asking him to do for his new
[4:01:48] administration so that's all I
[4:01:52] have to offer thank you
[4:01:55] you haveella Wilson
[4:02:01] president would you like to come
[4:02:04] up
[4:02:23] Good afternoon
[4:02:26] the audition and I madam
[4:02:26] chairir
[4:02:29] in an affairs committee each and
[4:02:31] every one of you legislators
[4:02:33] representatives senators I
[4:02:35] appreciate your time you're
[4:02:36] spending here in Gallup. My name
[4:02:38] is Elvispazzilli. I am
[4:02:40] currently the tragic chapter
[4:02:41] president. This is my first term
[4:02:44] as the president for our chapter
[4:02:48] and
[4:02:48] I'm here today not I wasn't
[4:02:50] expecting to make a report or
[4:02:53] just give you an update on what
[4:02:54] we're doing but I don't mind you
[4:02:55] know it's not a
[4:02:56] not a biggie for me because I
[4:02:58] present it to you before you
[4:03:00] were in in Tohatchie
[4:03:01] earlier this year last late last
[4:03:05] year so madam chair again the
[4:03:07] committee I appreciate the time
[4:03:09] that we have here this morning
[4:03:10] and this afternoon. I wanted
[4:03:12] just to update you real briefly
[4:03:14] on what we're doing as a chapter
[4:03:16] I inherited I would say 20
[4:03:20] to30 depending ongoing projects
[4:03:23] coming from the previous
[4:03:24] leadership
[4:03:26] and that is going forward for
[4:03:28] our chapter and we've added
[4:03:31] probably 20 more projects to our
[4:03:34] chapter and pending and you know
[4:03:34] we're
[4:03:37] we're prioritizing what we have
[4:03:40] meaning our our ICIP
[4:03:42] infrastructure capital
[4:03:44] improvement plan we have our top
[4:03:46] priority listing for that that's
[4:03:48] been ongoing for for several
[4:03:50] years I just wanted update
[4:03:53] you on that real briefly our
[4:03:55] priority projects for Tahachi is
[4:03:56] our first responders safety
[4:03:58] complex Our second one is our
[4:04:01] warehouses our chapter warehouse
[4:04:03] our third is our highway491
[4:04:05] lighting
[4:04:06] we are fortunate and blessed
[4:04:08] to have been awarded50,000 from
[4:04:11] our our senator and
[4:04:13] representatives for this year
[4:04:16] for our safety complex and that
[4:04:18] money will be expended we
[4:04:21] were we'd been expending I'd
[4:04:25] say close to4 million over the
[4:04:27] past three or four years so far
[4:04:29] from capital outlay funding for
[4:04:31] our cap safety complex so we
[4:04:33] are looking for for more money
[4:04:35] we've
[4:04:36] applied again for our TI funds
[4:04:39] we're again we're gonna we're
[4:04:41] we have applied and we are going
[4:04:42] to apply again just a brief
[4:04:45] update on that on our priority
[4:04:46] projects and like I said we do
[4:04:48] have several other projects that
[4:04:50] are ongoing for our chapter and
[4:04:53] there is a lot of work there is
[4:04:54] a lot of work we're working
[4:04:56] diligently with our naval Nation
[4:04:57] community development department
[4:05:00] we're working with the state of
[4:05:02] New Mexico we're working with
[4:05:04] other entities locally
[4:05:07] in the county in regards
[4:05:09] to other added projects that are
[4:05:11] new this year for us we have our
[4:05:13] red willow farm solar project
[4:05:15] we've added that to our ICIP
[4:05:17] listing as you all are aware
[4:05:19] I I have a late mom that was
[4:05:21] our red willow farm
[4:05:23] president for for many many
[4:05:26] years and because of that we've
[4:05:29] we've continued to her success
[4:05:30] with that and we've continued
[4:05:32] the the dreams and and work that
[4:05:34] she wanted so we've added
[4:05:36] that to our our capital outlay
[4:05:38] priority list for re willow
[4:05:40] as a matter of fact that's where
[4:05:41] I was just coming from this
[4:05:42] morning we we got a lot of water
[4:05:45] at our farm and we cannot get
[4:05:46] into our farm because of because
[4:05:49] of the floods and the and the
[4:05:50] muddy roads and the access to
[4:05:51] our farm but we were able to get
[4:05:53] in because the past few days we
[4:05:55] had some a little bit warmer
[4:05:57] weather so we could get into the
[4:06:03] the the farm today again
[4:06:04] ourabul outlay projects or tip
[4:06:05] projects that we've appli
[4:06:06] ed for I just wanted to mention
[4:06:08] that we also got money for our
[4:06:11] our first responder safety
[4:06:13] complex of4 million dollars from
[4:06:16] Tiff that was also added to that
[4:06:18] so so that was a success there.
[4:06:20] I wanted to congratulate and
[4:06:23] commend the legislators and
[4:06:25] all of you that are involved in
[4:06:26] that success and he haii we
[4:06:28] appreciate that we want to
[4:06:30] continue with lobbying and
[4:06:32] advocating with you all to help
[4:06:34] us with that so we can continue
[4:06:35] building
[4:06:36] this very important safety
[4:06:38] complex it's very much needed
[4:06:40] for our chapter. Highway491 is a
[4:06:43] very dangerous highway. it's a
[4:06:45] very busy highway and we are
[4:06:47] serving also district14 chapters
[4:06:49] which is5 chapters in in the
[4:06:52] local area so that's very
[4:06:54] important I hope and I I I
[4:06:56] pray that we will be
[4:06:59] successful again in applying for
[4:07:01] more funding for for our
[4:07:03] safety complex building we
[4:07:06] will be
[4:07:06] applying again this year or
[4:07:07] actually next year for for that
[4:07:09] funding area so we appreciate
[4:07:11] that so much for that so also
[4:07:13] want to congratulate another
[4:07:15] project on we were talking about
[4:07:17] it earlier theelville Gallup
[4:07:19] water supply the the the project
[4:07:21] there we're we're working
[4:07:23] with a shortfall dollars of3.5
[4:07:25] million dollars with Mexican
[4:07:27] spprings chapter we were
[4:07:29] successful with they were
[4:07:32] successful actually cause
[4:07:33] Mexican sppring applied for tI
[4:07:35] money and they were
[4:07:36] successful in landing4 million
[4:07:39] dollars of the3.5 that was
[4:07:40] shortfall so they were we were
[4:07:42] awarded as a as a combined
[4:07:44] project to get this project done
[4:07:46] so it's it's ongoing now we're
[4:07:49] blessed that we had that money
[4:07:50] approved for us now it's it's
[4:07:53] up to the contractors to move
[4:07:55] those dollars forward so we can
[4:07:57] get that done that's a part of
[4:07:58] the whole project
[4:08:02] funding that that that this is
[4:08:03] needed so we can serve our to
[4:08:03] hachi Mexican spprings
[4:08:06] area and that's going to happen
[4:08:08] that is going to happen and
[4:08:10] there's the plan and design is
[4:08:10] already complete it's done and
[4:08:12] we're ready to go this money
[4:08:14] that we got is for construction
[4:08:15] so we'd be moving on that as
[4:08:17] soon as possible. Saer Miller is
[4:08:19] the contractor subcontractor
[4:08:21] that we're working with
[4:08:22] Navoation so they're helping us
[4:08:23] with that and working along with
[4:08:25] that project for us so we're
[4:08:28] we're ongoing with that is is as
[4:08:29] as we move forward for serving
[4:08:31] our communitiesal deen is also
[4:08:34] on that listing for for funding
[4:08:36] as well
[4:08:36] and that lateral project as well
[4:08:39] as other other communities that
[4:08:40] are east of Gallup in that
[4:08:42] eastern agency area so we're
[4:08:44] working diligently with everyone
[4:08:46] out there so you know we've been
[4:08:48] successful so far with
[4:08:49] funding this project for our
[4:08:51] community so thank you very much
[4:08:53] to legislators for all of that
[4:08:55] and what you do and I just kind
[4:08:57] of put together some notes that
[4:08:58] I have I'd like to ask the
[4:09:00] legislators if you could help us
[4:09:02] possibly with the warehouse
[4:09:03] funding for our chapter we're
[4:09:04] 85,000
[4:09:07] 0 shortfall highway light we
[4:09:09] have3.5 million dollars that
[4:09:10] we're working with now theation
[4:09:11] Department of Transportation so
[4:09:13] we have some matching funding
[4:09:15] monies there so we probably will
[4:09:18] be able to have at least a
[4:09:19] million dollars because the
[4:09:21] navigation department of
[4:09:21] transportation has awarded
[4:09:23] through the naviation council
[4:09:26] monies for each of the agencies
[4:09:29] and legnaval Nation co agency
[4:09:31] areas districts for Monday and
[4:09:34] there so we'll we'll be glad to
[4:09:35] have that
[4:09:35] as a part of our contribution
[4:09:37] towards that and again this is
[4:09:39] something that we're doing and
[4:09:41] I'm just kind of going on as
[4:09:43] best as I can and do do what I
[4:09:45] need to do with what we were
[4:09:46] doing inuahachie
[4:09:48] I want to also thank theal
[4:09:49] McKinney County schools for the
[4:09:50] new high school the new high
[4:09:53] school that we now have so as
[4:09:54] you can see we're moving forward
[4:09:56] with a lot of projects that are
[4:09:57] going on in Tohatchie and we
[4:10:00] want to thank them for all
[4:10:01] the work they've done over the
[4:10:02] many many years we just had our
[4:10:04] groundbreaking in schools in
[4:10:06] session now all the kids are
[4:10:07] enjoying their new school now
[4:10:09] and of course they cannot wait
[4:10:11] for basketball season. we have a
[4:10:12] new basketball gymnasium that
[4:10:14] we're gonna be occupying and
[4:10:16] we're gonna be cheering on
[4:10:17] you know our opponents and
[4:10:19] everyone else there when they
[4:10:20] come to Johatchi, home of the
[4:10:22] cougars and we're gonna be
[4:10:23] we're gonna be yelling out we
[4:10:25] got spirit how about you? you
[4:10:28] know that's gonna happen right
[4:10:29] on so again we appreciate that
[4:10:32] other things that are going
[4:10:34] on that's sad to say again
[4:10:37] ourtahaji seniorenter has been
[4:10:37] closed for the last couple of
[4:10:40] weeks or so3 weeks because of
[4:10:43] our hy their hibc system their
[4:10:44] highback system has is not
[4:10:45] functioning and it's not just to
[4:10:48] haji it's a majority of naval
[4:10:49] nation where we're having that
[4:10:50] issue the expending the
[4:10:53] expanding the expenditure
[4:10:54] process of getting these money
[4:10:55] spent is a problem with our
[4:10:57] navajo nation and that's been a
[4:10:59] long long ongoing process so the
[4:11:01] senior senator is dealing with
[4:11:03] that we as officials are
[4:11:04] supporting them they under they
[4:11:06] are under doltech with Navo
[4:11:08] Nation so we are supporting
[4:11:10] their effort to get this done. I
[4:11:12] just found out a week ago that
[4:11:14] is the high ec system works at
[4:11:15] the senior center it's just some
[4:11:16] d
[4:11:18] uck wood I need some upgrades
[4:11:19] that's why there's no there's no
[4:11:20] functioning air flow through the
[4:11:22] through the building itself so
[4:11:24] we're working again with
[4:11:26] something there so we need
[4:11:27] something to do with that
[4:11:28] system. these systems and these
[4:11:30] senior center centers have been
[4:11:31] outdated for so many years so
[4:11:35] if you have senior centers in on
[4:11:36] on in your area as legislators
[4:11:38] you need to look more closely at
[4:11:40] what's going on with their
[4:11:41] facility it's a bad situation
[4:11:43] because they're very full
[4:11:45] they're much outdated
[4:11:46] infrastructure
[4:11:48] so anyway that's something that
[4:11:49] we're dealing with now and
[4:11:51] and we're we're soon to have
[4:11:53] that open and guarantee that so
[4:11:55] the other the other commanding
[4:11:57] commanding information or
[4:11:58] comment I want to make is the
[4:12:01] MexicodlT thank you for your new
[4:12:02] paving that you're doing now
[4:12:04] through our community of
[4:12:07] Tehatchie M marker16 through
[4:12:07] mile marker 25 we lobbied for
[4:12:10] that advocated for that here
[4:12:11] about a month ago or so with DOT
[4:12:15] we asked Trujillo and we
[4:12:17] asked Lis
[4:12:17] a Vega why are you guys not
[4:12:19] still why you guys are notpa
[4:12:21] that north lane, the double
[4:12:23] lanes and a couple weeks three
[4:12:24] weeks later they got on it. so
[4:12:26] thank you for those guys there
[4:12:27] was money for it thanks to
[4:12:30] our other local leadership that
[4:12:31] followed us through that we
[4:12:33] did meet withrujillo in Santa Fe
[4:12:35] and on teleconference call and
[4:12:37] we we got a blessing after that
[4:12:39] and thank you for that we really
[4:12:40] need that highway repaved and
[4:12:42] it's happening now so that
[4:12:44] should be completed I think
[4:12:45] probably the end of this week or
[4:12:46] within the next several
[4:12:47] days. Again there's so much
[4:12:50] blessed thank you for that we
[4:12:51] have now again I hope the
[4:12:54] speeders don't speed too much
[4:12:56] more but we don't we don't want
[4:12:58] that you know we'd like to
[4:12:58] control that so that may be
[4:13:00] another issue. Again there's
[4:13:02] another part that I want to
[4:13:03] mention that wement as a chapter
[4:13:05] advocating with other leadership
[4:13:07] before was the Edward O Plumber
[4:13:09] interchange 264 and highway491.
[4:13:13] We need those lights back on. We
[4:13:16] need those lights back on. We
[4:13:18] ' ve complained about that. why
[4:13:19] they have not get to that we've
[4:13:21] talked to the county manager
[4:13:22] about this they've been
[4:13:24] pointing fingers at each other
[4:13:26] in the Mexico DlT counties
[4:13:28] responsible and so forth so
[4:13:31] that's a very big danger zone
[4:13:33] guarantee you that because I go
[4:13:34] through that day and night and
[4:13:36] it's a problem so we need to get
[4:13:38] that fixed leadership so
[4:13:40] with that I have don't I
[4:13:42] don't have any other much more
[4:13:44] else to say but last but not
[4:13:47] least
[4:13:48] our school beacon flashing
[4:13:49] lights in Tohachi at our main
[4:13:52] school exit to our high school
[4:13:54] in our elementary school we need
[4:13:56] those bea and flash of lights
[4:13:59] install we've complained to the
[4:14:00] county for the past year or so
[4:14:02] it has not been done. Anthony
[4:14:05] demis, if you're listening, I
[4:14:07] hope you can hear us so we we
[4:14:10] need your help. The school is
[4:14:12] not responsible for it. they
[4:14:14] pointed to the county they
[4:14:14] pointed to MexicodlT
[4:14:18] everyone just does not want
[4:14:19] to put their hand on it even
[4:14:22] nowvonation DlT but leadership I
[4:14:23] hope we can get some word from
[4:14:24] you to get some somebody going
[4:14:26] we need that done it's very
[4:14:28] important we need that done a
[4:14:30] lot of semi trucks go through
[4:14:32] our areas daily it's a very
[4:14:34] danger zone. we need your help
[4:14:36] we need your help with that. So
[4:14:38] leadership, thank you very much
[4:14:40] for your time and again there's
[4:14:42] other projects that are ongoing
[4:14:44] now with us in our community
[4:14:47] rule dressing has been
[4:14:47] completed that's been ongoing
[4:14:49] for many years we have our rule
[4:14:51] of addressing project done thank
[4:14:52] you to ARPA funds from the
[4:14:55] federal government funds that we
[4:14:56] got we still need to finish that
[4:14:58] it's been done we just need
[4:14:59] volunteers I have how many of
[4:15:01] you here12,20,1f of you we need
[4:15:04] help installing our signs and
[4:15:06] our street signs they're done
[4:15:07] they're ready to go we just
[4:15:09] need to we just needed to get
[4:15:10] some cooler weather and that's
[4:15:12] happened but we're getting rain
[4:15:13] so we can't get out there to do
[4:15:15] that right now but we will move
[4:15:16] forward on that so
[4:15:17] thank you very much and I
[4:15:19] appreciate your time. thank you
[4:15:21] madam chairir committee thank
[4:15:23] you for coming to what is it
[4:15:26] gallup is did I hear Indian
[4:15:28] capital of the world some time
[4:15:28] ago
[4:15:31] I don't know how true that is
[4:15:32] but I just want to say tohachi
[4:15:34] is where I'm from welcome to
[4:15:36] Tahachi home of the cougars
[4:15:37] thank you very much
[4:15:38] appreciateciate it
[4:15:42] ok we will move to item number4
[4:15:44] with committee members
[4:15:50] And I did see chance came in
[4:15:52] hello come on that
[4:15:54] and you have someone with you or
[4:15:56] is it just you?
[4:15:58] they can join you just as long
[4:15:59] as they introduce themselves.
[4:16:01] Oh neararley
[4:16:04] excellent we feel I wonder if
[4:16:05] he's nervous sit up
[4:16:12] So is he overseeing you are you
[4:16:14] overseeing him? I'm just kidding
[4:16:18] do we have an extra
[4:16:25] don't have don't have anything
[4:16:31] don't have any anything I'll
[4:16:33] check my email but I didn't this
[4:16:34] morning
[4:16:48] we were at a different location
[4:16:49] and this was one of our
[4:16:52] I think they're gonna so we'll
[4:16:54] take a five minute break here
[4:16:56] before we convene no it's ok
[4:16:59] if it helps you move through the
[4:17:01] rep representation that'll help
[4:17:02] us
[4:17:03] so we don't have so many
[4:17:05] questions if we can read
[4:17:07] or if he can just get a laptop
[4:17:16] to him
[4:17:19] Nnicole if he can just get a
[4:17:19] laptop oh he has his laptop you
[4:17:20] can't read off your
[4:17:21] yeah
[4:17:26] ok give them the internet it's
[4:17:27] internet password
[4:24:18] members that you may begin
[4:24:26] Testing madam chair and members
[4:24:29] of the committee we just thank
[4:24:30] you for inviting us up here to
[4:24:32] talk with you guys about modular
[4:24:34] housing. I'm Chance Mitchell. my
[4:24:37] dad here is Jim Mitchell and
[4:24:39] over the last three or four
[4:24:40] years we've spent our lives
[4:24:44] sort of renovating a420,000
[4:24:47] square foot bus plant that we've
[4:24:49] now converted into a modular
[4:24:51] homeme factory providing
[4:24:53] homes for areas all across
[4:24:55] the state and
[4:24:56] so my my goal the reason that we
[4:24:59] came up here is I I would just
[4:25:02] like to communicate what a good
[4:25:04] and what a permanent solution
[4:25:05] that modular housing can be for
[4:25:07] rural and tribal communities.
[4:25:12] So little presentation overview
[4:25:15] so originally we'd have a set
[4:25:16] video just a video of us
[4:25:18] actually setting the homes but
[4:25:20] I think I'm having some
[4:25:22] technical difficulties so we'll
[4:25:24] we'll have to do without that
[4:25:25] but I'm going to talk about
[4:25:28] modular housing from a general
[4:25:30] point of view. First, what are
[4:25:33] the benefits? what is it and
[4:25:35] after that I'm going to talk
[4:25:36] about fortified our company and
[4:25:38] sort of how we stand out how we
[4:25:40] can just help
[4:25:42] communities around New Mexico.
[4:25:47] that video
[4:25:49] I did include this picture
[4:25:50] though so this is a project
[4:25:52] that we have
[4:25:53] just completed in Redriver
[4:25:58] this summer. it from the time we
[4:25:59] went under contract with the
[4:26:00] town of Red River to the time we
[4:26:02] actually got the homes on the
[4:26:03] ground was 2 months so and I
[4:26:05] think that's pretty unheard of
[4:26:07] when you're working with
[4:26:08] local governments and whatnot
[4:26:10] but I think it is a testament
[4:26:12] to the the speed of our building
[4:26:16] processes so yes the the
[4:26:19] community up there is using
[4:26:20] these town homemes for workforce
[4:26:22] housing
[4:26:25] why modular
[4:26:27] so
[4:26:27] let's just talk about the
[4:26:29] quality of modular first so we
[4:26:32] build everything in an enclosed
[4:26:34] environment that in itself we
[4:26:36] have a roof over our heads while
[4:26:38] while we build our homes so we
[4:26:40] are not dealing with weather
[4:26:42] delays or weather damage to our
[4:26:44] materials we're not dealing with
[4:26:46] any theft or any of the
[4:26:49] issues that would come with just
[4:26:52] the elements. I mean if you
[4:26:54] think that you can get your cut
[4:26:56] your angle as pre
[4:26:57] ci se as I can when I'm cutting
[4:26:59] in a building and you're out
[4:27:00] there in the rain and the mud
[4:27:01] and the wind. I'll take you up
[4:27:02] on that challenge all day long.
[4:27:06] streamlined processes we we
[4:27:06] build everything ination we have
[4:27:08] our materials right there we're
[4:27:10] not running to Home Depot 20
[4:27:11] times a day like a normal site
[4:27:14] builder would
[4:27:15] and we're able to build a lot
[4:27:18] faster because of our
[4:27:20] streamlined processes and a lot
[4:27:21] better our people do the same
[4:27:23] thing every day in the same
[4:27:25] place. The the quality becomes
[4:27:27] very good
[4:27:28] engineered for durability. so
[4:27:31] one of the differences between
[4:27:33] modular and like a manufactured
[4:27:36] or a mobile home is we build to
[4:27:39] the IRc the International
[4:27:41] residential code it's the same
[4:27:43] code that a regular site builder
[4:27:44] would build to
[4:27:45] whereas a mobile manufactured
[4:27:49] home they build to theU code
[4:27:53] which think section 8 housing
[4:27:54] it's a code created for just
[4:27:57] purely affordable you know this
[4:27:59] is these are homes that have a
[4:28:00] shelf life they deteriorate
[4:28:02] eventually you're gonna have to
[4:28:04] replace it. there's a place for
[4:28:05] it in the market but it's not a
[4:28:06] permanent solution
[4:28:07] these are engineered at
[4:28:11] the same code that a site
[4:28:12] builder would use except we
[4:28:14] actually overengineer them
[4:28:15] because we do put them on a
[4:28:16] truck, lift them up with a crane
[4:28:18] and so they they are very very
[4:28:20] sturdy homes
[4:28:21] faster build timeline I sort
[4:28:25] of talked about that with the
[4:28:29] streamlined processes I guess
[4:28:30] but
[4:28:31] right now in our factory we
[4:28:34] complete a home in 22 business
[4:28:37] days so very quick build
[4:28:40] timeline in the factory during
[4:28:42] those 22 business days we're out
[4:28:43] there on site doing the
[4:28:44] foundation and so the
[4:28:47] foundation's ready when the home
[4:28:48] comes out. you got about four
[4:28:50] weeks of stitch up after the
[4:28:51] home actually comes out gets set
[4:28:53] on the foundation and so you're
[4:28:55] looking at a two month to three
[4:28:57] months at the most build
[4:28:59] timeline when you
[4:29:01] go with one of
[4:29:02] a standard typical home that we
[4:29:05] built and you know compared to a
[4:29:07] site built you're you're looking
[4:29:09] at six months at the minimum,
[4:29:11] especially in one of these rural
[4:29:12] communities. I mean you're
[4:29:13] probably looking at closer to a
[4:29:14] year or more than a year
[4:29:15] so
[4:29:18] we we save a lot of time and we
[4:29:22] also save people a lot of money
[4:29:24] so
[4:29:25] affordability I just did this
[4:29:27] little mockup estimate if we
[4:29:31] were just going to go
[4:29:33] to Ta and build a home. really
[4:29:34] we could do this in any rural
[4:29:36] community. I chose Taos because
[4:29:38] it's people can't build there
[4:29:40] for less than400 a foot right
[4:29:41] now it's the housing market has
[4:29:43] just gotten crazy. minus the
[4:29:46] land this would be our cost if
[4:29:48] we were to go up there and build
[4:29:49] a home between the foundation
[4:29:52] of everything to get the home
[4:29:53] actually turnkey we're looking
[4:29:56] at160 bucks a foot to build it
[4:29:58] whereas yeah intas site builders
[4:30:00] can't build a home for less
[4:30:01] than400 buck
[4:30:03] a foot frankly so
[4:30:04] when I say this is a a good
[4:30:07] solution for our rural
[4:30:08] communities. I I really do mean
[4:30:10] it.
[4:30:15] greener
[4:30:15] I I know that we are facing so
[4:30:18] many issues and topics around
[4:30:22] just the issue of waste so
[4:30:25] modular with our streamlined
[4:30:26] processes with our lack of
[4:30:28] weather damage theft, you name
[4:30:31] it. we use about30% of the waste
[4:30:34] that a site builder would use
[4:30:36] for building a home so think
[4:30:37] we would use like a55 gallon
[4:30:40] dumpster loaded up per home
[4:30:44] whereas a site builder would
[4:30:45] probably use two semi trucks
[4:30:46] of waste so it's a very green
[4:30:56] y fortify it so now we'll talk
[4:30:57] about fortified structures our
[4:30:59] actual company what sets us
[4:31:00] apart and how we can help
[4:31:02] so we are very vertical
[4:31:04] vertically integrated we
[4:31:07] originally started as a civil
[4:31:09] construction company. my
[4:31:11] parents started JNhervices about
[4:31:14] 30 years ago and have run it in
[4:31:17] southeast New Mexico building
[4:31:18] bridges highways since then
[4:31:22] have acquired an asphalt plant a
[4:31:23] concrete plant and so when
[4:31:26] somebody hires us we don't just
[4:31:28] build the houses we actually do
[4:31:30] the civil engineering we do the
[4:31:31] dirt work and everything
[4:31:33] because we see a lot of these
[4:31:34] municipalities when they get
[4:31:36] funding from the state the first
[4:31:37] place they'll go is they'll hire
[4:31:39] a super expensive engineer spent
[4:31:41] half the project money on an
[4:31:42] engineer that engineers the
[4:31:43] project to be way more expensive
[4:31:45] than anything they can afford
[4:31:47] and then the project doesn't get
[4:31:48] done and so when you're able to
[4:31:50] keep this whole project in house
[4:31:53] you know we're able to
[4:31:55] understand the customers values
[4:31:57] the end goals and from start to
[4:31:59] finish we're able to stay on the
[4:32:01] same page with everybody
[4:32:02] because we're we handle the
[4:32:05] whole process so yeah we from
[4:32:08] the civil engineering to the
[4:32:10] actual homes being turnkey
[4:32:13] ready. we handle that
[4:32:17] we don't
[4:32:18] let me just say we don't have to
[4:32:19] handle that if a municipality or
[4:32:22] somebody was to say hey we have
[4:32:24] these lots already developed you
[4:32:25] know that's not something that
[4:32:26] we have to do but we we have
[4:32:29] capacity to take care of the
[4:32:30] whole thing
[4:32:34] unique business structure so
[4:32:35] because all the factory because
[4:32:38] the factory does all the heavy
[4:32:39] lifting by building the homes in
[4:32:41] the
[4:32:41] plant we are able to qualify a
[4:32:46] lot of contractors in local
[4:32:48] areas that we're building that
[4:32:49] maybe wouldn't be able to handle
[4:32:52] all the capacity if they were
[4:32:54] just to build100% of the homes.
[4:32:57] so when we go to a different
[4:33:00] community our goal is to utilize
[4:33:02] the local
[4:33:03] workforce boost the economy,
[4:33:07] buy the new homes and also buy
[4:33:08] the labor because yeah the the
[4:33:11] amount of work that gets done on
[4:33:14] site is relatively easy.
[4:33:17] so
[4:33:18] there you go and yeah we're
[4:33:20] we're
[4:33:21] constantly scaling across the
[4:33:24] southwest by we have
[4:33:27] customers who are buying
[4:33:29] licenses to their areas I
[4:33:32] guess and they're just buying
[4:33:34] our home straight out of the
[4:33:34] factory and putting their homes
[4:33:37] in their local areas and
[4:33:39] that's sort of how we've been
[4:33:41] scaling and serving communities
[4:33:43] far fromRoswell.
[4:33:47] so
[4:33:48] here's a bit of our current
[4:33:49] speed incompa capacity right now
[4:33:53] so our current production is two
[4:33:55] modules a day
[4:33:56] we we work in terms of modules
[4:33:58] because a home can be one
[4:34:00] module, a home could be10
[4:34:01] modules it really just depends
[4:34:02] on the home. So think the
[4:34:04] average home is about 2 modules
[4:34:06] so we're building a house a day
[4:34:08] right now out of the factory.
[4:34:10] Our goal by the end of 227 is to
[4:34:12] double that and then once we
[4:34:15] double that we'll open up our
[4:34:16] second production line through
[4:34:18] the plant because really only
[4:34:21] using30 or40% of it right now
[4:34:22] the actual square footage in our
[4:34:24] factory
[4:34:28] so that that's a little bit
[4:34:29] about us. I look forward to any
[4:34:30] questions that you guys have
[4:34:33] that's our director of sales
[4:34:35] contact info but I also have
[4:34:37] business cards that I'd love to
[4:34:38] hand out with with mine as well
[4:34:43] committee memberspresentative
[4:34:43] Abela
[4:34:46] thank you chair. thank you Mr.
[4:34:47] Mitchell for your
[4:34:48] presentation and for also
[4:34:50] bringing your father a quick
[4:34:52] question
[4:34:53] quick question well multiple
[4:34:57] questions the Red river
[4:34:58] structure that you showed up
[4:35:00] here can you give me a little
[4:35:01] bit of the details about what it
[4:35:02] was and how much that costs
[4:35:06] madam Chairpresentative, thank
[4:35:08] you for asking that question.
[4:35:10] Yes so the
[4:35:11] town of Red River approached us
[4:35:14] they needed workforce housing
[4:35:16] they have
[4:35:16] the same issue that a lot of
[4:35:18] these rural, especially these
[4:35:21] mountain towns have where the
[4:35:22] real estate has become so
[4:35:23] expensive that the people who
[4:35:24] actually run the town can't live
[4:35:26] there.
[4:35:27] so
[4:35:28] we came in
[4:35:30] we completed the homes and set
[4:35:32] the homes within two months and
[4:35:33] then we we actually did the site
[4:35:37] work after that
[4:35:41] now
[4:35:41] I I believe the cost was around
[4:35:44] 250 b a square foot. that's
[4:35:46] probably not the exact number
[4:35:48] but that's that's where we were
[4:35:50] to to build that turnkey whereas
[4:35:56] yeah do you have anything else
[4:35:57] to say? Yeah I could speak to
[4:35:59] that a little bit so each one of
[4:36:00] those units is1280 square feet
[4:36:03] there
[4:36:05] they were right around 250 a
[4:36:05] foot with the
[4:36:07] the government procurement side
[4:36:11] because everything in the
[4:36:13] factory we were able to not pay
[4:36:15] the wage rate decision but
[4:36:16] everything on site had to be bid
[4:36:18] as wage rate decision. we
[4:36:21] helped them with all the
[4:36:21] engineering and it also being
[4:36:25] in Red River had to be zonefi
[4:36:28] insulated and approved for that
[4:36:30] so that added to the cost to
[4:36:32] some degree their quote for this
[4:36:34] project was near50000 of the
[4:36:39] so came in at half that yeah we
[4:36:40] were just right at half of
[4:36:41] what they were thinking it was
[4:36:43] going to cost them
[4:36:46] you chair thank you Mr.
[4:36:47] Mitchell. So just to clarify the
[4:36:49] original estimate was500,000
[4:36:51] because that was going to
[4:36:52] include engineering and other
[4:36:54] prep work but at the end of the
[4:36:55] project it was
[4:36:56] $250 per square foot. Right
[4:37:01] correct right well no they they
[4:37:03] estimate to build it on site
[4:37:06] with a local contractor was500 a
[4:37:08] foot by using us they saved
[4:37:10] half. Thank you I misunderstood
[4:37:12] that thank you madam Chair Mr.
[4:37:14] Mitchell. OK
[4:37:15] I think that's a great idea
[4:37:17] for a lot of our rural schools
[4:37:19] that are grappling with how
[4:37:21] we're going to provide teacher
[4:37:22] housing so this is interesting
[4:37:25] so can you tell me what was
[4:37:27] the total cost then?
[4:37:31] they had some additional costs
[4:37:32] there was some facilities here
[4:37:34] that they dem demoed to make
[4:37:36] room for this. I believe our
[4:37:38] contract was right around 2
[4:37:41] million and it
[4:37:44] I didn't mention but all all
[4:37:46] those units were a three bedroom
[4:37:48] two bath
[4:37:48] units
[4:37:54] Thank you chair and Mr Mitchell
[4:37:56] my next question is
[4:37:59] you may have answered this a
[4:38:02] while ago you had talked about
[4:38:03] how you use the local workforce
[4:38:05] but you build in your facility
[4:38:09] so is a a a crew taken out? Is
[4:38:12] is that the work what what's the
[4:38:13] local workforce helplp me
[4:38:14] understand that madam Chair
[4:38:17] andpresentative thank you for
[4:38:18] that question. I'd love to
[4:38:19] clarify it so the actual home
[4:38:22] like you you see these we can
[4:38:24] just look at this for example so
[4:38:26] the home when you walk in
[4:38:29] there the cabinet
[4:38:30] s the flooring, the countertops,
[4:38:32] the bathrooms that was all done
[4:38:34] in the factory. However, there
[4:38:36] are certain things that need to
[4:38:37] take place on site once we
[4:38:39] actually set the home on the
[4:38:40] foundation. Well, one the
[4:38:42] foundation needs to be poured on
[4:38:43] site. that metal roof had to be
[4:38:46] done on site. there's a little
[4:38:47] bit of the sighting that has to
[4:38:49] marry up a little bit of
[4:38:52] interior work plumbing
[4:38:54] connections, electrical
[4:38:55] connections and that has to be
[4:38:58] done on site and so we can use
[4:39:00] our local
[4:39:01] trade
[4:39:03] force that we use inRoswell
[4:39:07] arttesia but
[4:39:07] we prefer and we know that the
[4:39:10] communities prefer that we use
[4:39:11] their local
[4:39:12] workforce because it's
[4:39:14] relatively easy stuff it it's
[4:39:16] not anything that a regular
[4:39:20] contractor can't handle
[4:39:22] you for that answer chair and
[4:39:25] Mr Mitchell, my last question is
[4:39:26] what are the warranties on these
[4:39:28] types of structures
[4:39:31] madam chair andre representative
[4:39:33] we offer a one year bumper to
[4:39:37] bumper warranty on all our new
[4:39:39] homes and then they also come
[4:39:41] with a twoyear mechanical
[4:39:43] plumbing warranty so think the
[4:39:46] Ac goes out within the first two
[4:39:48] years we'll we'll go fix that
[4:39:50] and then they have a 10 year
[4:39:51] structural warranty. anything
[4:39:52] happens with the foundation
[4:39:56] whatnot in the 1st 10 years
[4:39:56] we'll go and fix that
[4:40:00] you have one more question thank
[4:40:02] you have you
[4:40:04] chaired Mr Mitchell have you
[4:40:05] contracted or worked with any
[4:40:07] public schools tribally
[4:40:09] controlled schools, private
[4:40:10] schools to provide teacher
[4:40:12] housing or tribally
[4:40:14] controlled health centers in in
[4:40:16] health service any medical type
[4:40:18] programs that need employee
[4:40:20] housing? have you worked with
[4:40:21] them and can you tell us about
[4:40:22] those
[4:40:25] madam chair andres
[4:40:25] representative, my dad can
[4:40:26] probably speak a little more to
[4:40:29] this we haven't had any teacher
[4:40:33] housing projects that we've
[4:40:35] completed yet we're in the works
[4:40:37] on a couple but I know that
[4:40:40] JNh services the civil side has
[4:40:42] done a lot and we are CES
[4:40:44] approved so we we can do that
[4:40:47] the teacher housing work
[4:40:50] directly correct yeah and and
[4:40:53] for the so we've been in a
[4:40:54] civil industry for 30 years and
[4:40:57] we've worked with the musscuaro
[4:40:58] tribe and one of their housing
[4:41:00] subdivisions that we built we
[4:41:03] did all the infrastructure at
[4:41:04] different vertical contractor
[4:41:05] built the structures for that
[4:41:08] one
[4:41:09] and we're currently working with
[4:41:12] muscular's putting in water
[4:41:12] system we've done a lot of work
[4:41:14] here over the years for the city
[4:41:16] of Gallup
[4:41:19] in 30 years we've done a lot of
[4:41:21] work so we we're very familiar
[4:41:23] with the the processes and and
[4:41:26] what needs to take place on the
[4:41:28] governmental side of it
[4:41:30] thank you madam chair thank you
[4:41:31] Mr Mitchell. I'm glad to hear
[4:41:33] that and I'm also glad I didn't
[4:41:35] hear of any restrictions or any
[4:41:37] concerns that you had that the
[4:41:39] federal government doesn't allow
[4:41:40] that type of contracting with
[4:41:42] modular buildings sounds like
[4:41:43] they do so yes ma'am so just
[4:41:46] because it's modular it it it
[4:41:48] appreciates everything about it
[4:41:50] as as if it's on site belt.
[4:41:53] and and it's actually better
[4:41:55] quality.
[4:41:57] thank you madam chair
[4:41:59] thank you thank youpresentative
[4:42:00] Representative royalabballero
[4:42:04] thank you madam chair and thank
[4:42:06] you it's good to see you again
[4:42:07] you would have been proud very
[4:42:09] proud of your son100 time full
[4:42:11] because he presented before the
[4:42:13] economic and rural
[4:42:14] development when we met in
[4:42:17] uhRoswell and part of our
[4:42:18] conversation madam chairir was
[4:42:20] we encouraged him to reach out
[4:42:22] to various interim committees
[4:42:25] around the state because we were
[4:42:26] still meeting and we wanted
[4:42:29] to help him
[4:42:31] promote
[4:42:34] the housing this modular
[4:42:38] housing
[4:42:39] and because of the very
[4:42:41] questions you were asking
[4:42:46] Teacher housing you know started
[4:42:47] working in in Cibala
[4:42:50] McKinley County's back in 2001
[4:42:53] and back then
[4:42:54] they were telling us
[4:42:56] about the need for teacher
[4:42:58] housing and then the city of
[4:42:58] Grantz was highly
[4:43:01] had
[4:43:03] high degree of dilapidated
[4:43:06] housing
[4:43:07] and housing had to be those
[4:43:09] homes had to be demolished they
[4:43:12] were ruled unsafe for a large to
[4:43:13] a large extent because they were
[4:43:16] so old they were built in the
[4:43:17] early mining industry so I
[4:43:20] say all that to say that again I
[4:43:23] I was exposed to modular housing
[4:43:26] when I was doing housing
[4:43:27] development down south
[4:43:30] and and thank you for asking
[4:43:31] the question about the federal
[4:43:33] government because it in fact
[4:43:35] was one of the very first
[4:43:36] grants I can't remember I think
[4:43:39] it was carlos might remember but
[4:43:42] we received
[4:43:44] Federal funding on from three
[4:43:48] different sources because at
[4:43:50] that time we were breaking
[4:43:51] ground it was a trailblazing
[4:43:53] idea of modular homes and it
[4:43:57] worked so well that the veterans
[4:43:58] administration bought into it
[4:44:01] in certain areas and far west
[4:44:03] Texas that are very isolated but
[4:44:05] yet veterans were were
[4:44:08] buying pieces of land once they
[4:44:11] had access to capital and so on
[4:44:13] so madam chair I wanted to
[4:44:17] just bring that because we
[4:44:20] encouraged exposure of
[4:44:23] this and the more you get
[4:44:25] exposed to us in our committees
[4:44:27] around the state I think the
[4:44:29] more the better understanding we
[4:44:31] get of how
[4:44:32] this could actually be a great
[4:44:36] resolution for our housing
[4:44:37] shortage but not only that the
[4:44:39] affordability factor we also
[4:44:42] madam chairir brought up the
[4:44:43] whole question of how are
[4:44:45] unfortunately our senior
[4:44:48] citizens are losing their homes
[4:44:50] because they're unable to
[4:44:53] keep up with the horrible
[4:44:54] costs associated they may have
[4:44:56] finished their mortgage but they
[4:44:58] have these high utility rates
[4:44:59] and all the other costs
[4:45:00] associated and their homes have
[4:45:02] now
[4:45:03] after th30,40,50 years become
[4:45:05] unaffordable and they
[4:45:09] especially those families that
[4:45:11] don't have dependences so
[4:45:13] this is a viable alternative
[4:45:15] affordable alternative in a
[4:45:18] number of ways and so one
[4:45:20] question
[4:45:22] were you able to get
[4:45:24] on the agenda with mortgage
[4:45:27] finance Author
[4:45:37] Madam Chair andre
[4:45:37] representative, thank you for
[4:45:38] that question. Yes ma'am we've
[4:45:39] actually presented at their
[4:45:43] board meeting
[4:45:43] before and I I've gotten to
[4:45:47] be a special guest once or twice
[4:45:49] so that's they've they've been
[4:45:51] very good to us and we're going
[4:45:54] to need all the legislative
[4:45:55] support we can get to move
[4:45:57] mortgage finance authority I
[4:46:00] think we all need to be the
[4:46:01] oversight for them because they
[4:46:03] have been presented many ideas
[4:46:05] and this is one of the most
[4:46:06] affordable ideas they've been
[4:46:07] presented and for some reason
[4:46:09] they have a new name what is it
[4:46:11] housing
[4:46:11] New Mexico or something like
[4:46:14] that they they just
[4:46:17] do not want to remove themselves
[4:46:19] from the conventional
[4:46:21] housing
[4:46:22] construction concepts right that
[4:46:28] self or380,000 dollars to start
[4:46:30] off with up and they call that
[4:46:33] affordable when in fact at
[4:46:35] one of their meetings madam
[4:46:36] chair a question was asked and
[4:46:39] said how much money would
[4:46:40] what is what would be the
[4:46:43] minimum hourly wage that a
[4:46:45] family would have to be made a
[4:46:47] head of household would have to
[4:46:49] make in order to be able to
[4:46:51] afford just walking into
[4:46:51] a380,000
[4:46:54] and it came out to44 almost45
[4:46:56] dollars an hour
[4:46:57] wage they would have to earn in
[4:47:01] order to be able to walk
[4:47:01] into380,00
[4:47:06] you know in Albuquerque so
[4:47:09] again this is
[4:47:10] a real alternate not alternative
[4:47:15] it's a real housing opportunity
[4:47:17] that's being presented to us at
[4:47:21] different committees and
[4:47:22] different areas of our state
[4:47:24] where we're all being faced with
[4:47:26] a housing crisis
[4:47:28] and we heard earlier fromallup
[4:47:30] about the homeless unsheltered
[4:47:33] crisis that we're facing
[4:47:35] when we have a viable
[4:47:36] alternative right here so I just
[4:47:38] wanted to say thank you to you
[4:47:40] for being diligent in pursuing
[4:47:41] these presentations and I
[4:47:45] would just say that you keep
[4:47:46] doing it be persistent and
[4:47:48] we'll keep promoting as much as
[4:47:51] we can the the this
[4:47:55] housing
[4:47:56] modular home
[4:47:59] concept although it's been
[4:48:01] around for a while but in in the
[4:48:05] other admirable thing is that
[4:48:06] you're present right here in our
[4:48:08] backyard in the state of New
[4:48:10] Mexico
[4:48:10] so I'm glad you did a little bit
[4:48:12] about your company because
[4:48:14] you're located right here
[4:48:16] inRoswell, New Mexico.
[4:48:18] so and you have the capacity to
[4:48:20] be
[4:48:22] communities as well and I
[4:48:25] think the more volume it's the
[4:48:27] classic capitalist concept the
[4:48:29] more volume the cost can go down
[4:48:32] so the more volume we have in
[4:48:33] this type of housing hopefully
[4:48:35] by the time you get toallup, New
[4:48:36] Mexico
[4:48:38] the the price per square foot
[4:48:40] might go down from160 to
[4:48:44] maybe140,120 I don't know
[4:48:45] wishful thinking but anyway
[4:48:47] thank you madam chair and and
[4:48:47] thank you
[4:48:51] and and and again you give us
[4:48:54] hope because you're a young man
[4:48:56] following in a family business
[4:48:57] but you're doing an excellent
[4:48:59] job. Thank you.
[4:49:01] thank youpresentative
[4:49:02] Representative Vice chairir
[4:49:04] Johnson. thank you madam chairir
[4:49:07] I just want to say now you tell
[4:49:10] me
[4:49:11] because I'm one of those people
[4:49:13] who drives back
[4:49:19] So I think I'm excited to
[4:49:23] continue to follow and support
[4:49:26] this program. I know that our
[4:49:30] health
[4:49:35] our senior citizens
[4:49:42] see our students commute
[4:49:44] hundreds of miles just to attend
[4:49:46] class who who need to be in
[4:49:55] a class work so and I want to
[4:49:58] thankpresentative Abeda for the
[4:49:58] questions she asked all the
[4:50:01] questions that we were curious
[4:50:03] about
[4:50:04] and so I think homes are
[4:50:13] so
[4:50:13] thank you
[4:50:18] you any other questions for
[4:50:20] committee members
[4:50:24] thank you thank you for coming
[4:50:26] all the way this way and even
[4:50:28] to my community members that are
[4:50:30] here this is one of the a little
[4:50:33] bit of a solution I think for
[4:50:35] many of the things we because
[4:50:37] even with our behavioral health
[4:50:38] entities that presented earlier
[4:50:41] after that 90 days is up when
[4:50:43] they are ready to get going it's
[4:50:45] permanent housing. how do we get
[4:50:47] them to that next step of
[4:50:48] something they can afford
[4:50:50] especially if they have those
[4:50:51] skills and meet the needs of the
[4:50:54] So I'm very grateful for you
[4:50:56] coming up and looking forward to
[4:50:58] seeing you and I I really pass
[4:51:01] your name the name of your
[4:51:02] company around to people when
[4:51:04] they talk about housing I'm like
[4:51:05] check this out but he does
[4:51:08] have a website online
[4:51:09] for you to look on with some of
[4:51:12] the information and the videos
[4:51:14] they do have something there
[4:51:16] but thank you for the committee
[4:51:17] members and thank you and I
[4:51:20] don't have any que I I think you
[4:51:21] answered a lot of my questions
[4:51:22] after we had that
[4:51:24] presentation so that was where I
[4:51:25] I I
[4:51:27] they were good answers
[4:51:30] Thank you guys
[4:51:37] ok we're on item number5 Senate
[4:51:39] bill3 with Mr. Collins and
[4:51:41] then we have one more after that
[4:51:43] with an update from the McKinley
[4:51:44] County DWRI court from our pres
[4:51:45] judgedyazzie
[4:52:42] OKen you've been before the
[4:52:42] committee before so I'm sure
[4:52:44] you're familiar and
[4:52:46] oh is he gonna join you
[4:52:49] ok that's fine
[4:52:52] he wants to join me
[4:52:53] you want to join me
[4:52:57] so members we are
[4:53:00] we are 6 minutes behind. I'm
[4:53:05] just curious.
[4:53:08] you may be gettingin.
[4:53:13] Well thank you
[4:53:18] can you hear me
[4:53:21] hello
[4:53:23] thank you madam chair vice chair
[4:53:26] and senators and representatives
[4:53:29] part of this committee it's
[4:53:31] really an honor to be here.
[4:53:35] I don't know about being short
[4:53:36] because as a part of why I'm
[4:53:38] here I want to give you a really
[4:53:41] my
[4:53:45] how I got here started 50 years
[4:53:47] ago on December
[4:53:53] thir1st around3 in the morning
[4:53:56] when my
[4:53:58] professional baseball career
[4:54:00] ended after I ran into a car on
[4:54:04] a snowmobile
[4:54:06] I'm from Oregon originally and
[4:54:08] I'd come home from a successful
[4:54:11] baseball season
[4:54:13] your first handout is a
[4:54:15] letter that I received from
[4:54:16] Tonyegegal
[4:54:19] I was hoping to
[4:54:21] move out of professional
[4:54:24] baseball here in the states. I'd
[4:54:27] play I'd turn down playing in
[4:54:29] Mexico in1976 to stay at home in
[4:54:33] oregon
[4:54:35] I played professionally for
[4:54:37] six seasons for regular seasons
[4:54:40] with the Milwaukeebrewers in
[4:54:41] their farm system. I got
[4:54:43] released in'751975 from the
[4:54:47] sacramento bees in the Pacific
[4:54:49] coast League I might be the
[4:54:53] only player that you know who
[4:54:56] actually pitched against the
[4:54:58] Albuquerque dukes
[4:54:59] Tommy Lasorda, Ronsey
[4:55:05] that's my relief pitcher back
[4:55:07] here in the back
[4:55:09] Larry Foster he was honored to
[4:55:12] be a part of Native Americanhall
[4:55:15] of fame baseball playing hall of
[4:55:15] fame but
[4:55:21] really I'm here to really try to
[4:55:24] give you information and what
[4:55:25] I've learned over the last50
[4:55:27] years of living with a brain
[4:55:29] injury because I really hope
[4:55:32] that this information I know
[4:55:34] I've talked to uhpresentative
[4:55:35] Johnson since she's had her
[4:55:38] brain injury and I'll let her
[4:55:41] talk to
[4:55:41] some of that after I talk here
[4:55:44] about her care and and really I
[4:55:47] think it's gonna
[4:55:48] point out some of the reasons
[4:55:52] why I'm here
[4:55:54] because really
[4:55:56] it's really hard to understand
[4:56:01] we look fine
[4:56:02] but you don't understand the
[4:56:04] difficulties that we have in
[4:56:06] just daily living
[4:56:08] Once our brain is scrambled it
[4:56:12] really is hard to make sense of
[4:56:15] things and understand things. it
[4:56:17] was good that Bill Lee was here
[4:56:19] talking about epilepsy
[4:56:21] the number one cause of epilepsy
[4:56:23] is brain injuries.
[4:56:25] and so I really recommend and I
[4:56:28] support what he was saying and
[4:56:30] doing with the vagus nerve
[4:56:31] implant
[4:56:33] because that's one of the things
[4:56:35] I've learned over the years and
[4:56:36] I'll talk a little bit about
[4:56:38] this as I go along
[4:56:39] but when I
[4:56:41] woke up I'll tell you a little
[4:56:43] bit about my injury
[4:56:45] everything I don't know any of
[4:56:49] things I've got about a month
[4:56:50] missing. I remember going to
[4:56:54] the hot springs I'd come home
[4:56:56] for the holidays after its
[4:56:57] successful baseball season. I
[4:57:02] was10 and1 in1976 our team took
[4:57:03] the state championship instead
[4:57:05] of I turned down played in
[4:57:07] Mexico professionally but I
[4:57:08] stayed in Oregon to plan semiro
[4:57:12] team Bend Oregon
[4:57:14] I was10 and1. our team took
[4:57:16] the state championship. I
[4:57:17] pitched the semifinal game to
[4:57:20] get us into the playoffs and
[4:57:21] then I came in in relief to win
[4:57:24] the championship
[4:57:26] like I I was gonna use this
[4:57:28] letter
[4:57:29] to go out of the states because
[4:57:34] in1976 Major League Baseball
[4:57:37] was opening up and as well as
[4:57:41] Europee was expanding Italy that
[4:57:44] they were all kinds of places
[4:57:46] for me to play and I was gonna
[4:57:48] take my skills and my abilities
[4:57:50] outside of the states because I
[4:57:53] saw that's where my future was.
[4:57:58] unfortunately I never got to use
[4:58:00] this letter
[4:58:02] like I said they told me that
[4:58:04] I remember Christmas Eve I went
[4:58:07] up to the hot springs. I wanted
[4:58:09] to do two things when I got home
[4:58:11] for the ho well three things
[4:58:12] actually regroup and decide if I
[4:58:14] was where I was going to play
[4:58:16] that summer if I was going to
[4:58:18] play
[4:58:20] other was to go to the hot
[4:58:22] springs well actually you had to
[4:58:24] go to the hot springs and that's
[4:58:25] what I remember doing on
[4:58:27] Christmas Eve. The other was to
[4:58:29] go snowmobiling
[4:58:31] I don't remember that they tell
[4:58:33] me I was
[4:58:36] one of my we met a bunch of
[4:58:37] people three of us had been
[4:58:39] snowmobiling for a couple3 hours
[4:58:41] we met other people at this
[4:58:42] rendezvous place
[4:58:46] after the bars had closed so
[4:58:49] they all came up and I guess one
[4:58:51] of my friends had lost his keys
[4:58:53] to a snowbill, another hot wired
[4:58:56] it and they said let me take
[4:58:57] it for a test run
[4:58:59] they told me I went up about
[4:59:01] mile, came back all all out and
[4:59:05] was probably doing4050 miles an
[4:59:06] hour. the only person that saw
[4:59:08] saw what happened was standing
[4:59:11] in there was a line of pickups
[4:59:13] on one side there was a u and he
[4:59:16] was standing in between the the
[4:59:18] pickups and the and and the you
[4:59:20] and all I can think of is I must
[4:59:23] have saw him and tried to avoid
[4:59:25] hitting him and ran heads
[4:59:28] headfirst into a side of
[4:59:29] a parked car
[4:59:31] when I hit the car I broke my
[4:59:33] jaw below my chin rammed this
[4:59:36] jawbone into my ear canal on
[4:59:38] impact I separated my skull
[4:59:40] busted out some teeth, broke a
[4:59:42] rib and knocked me out for so
[4:59:47] the only thing that I then the
[4:59:49] next thing I remember was waking
[4:59:51] up at home
[4:59:53] in front of a mirror about 6
[4:59:55] inches in front of a mirror
[4:59:57] coming out at darkness through a
[5:00:02] fog to picking the wires of my
[5:00:03] mouth my wire my mouth was wired
[5:00:05] shut
[5:00:08] what the blank happened to you
[5:00:11] that's all I could say because I
[5:00:13] didn't know I knew that I was at
[5:00:15] home because I was in my folks'
[5:00:17] bedroom with my bathrobe on my
[5:00:19] name wasen and I played baseball
[5:00:22] but I didn't know anything about
[5:00:23] home kin or baseball. the only
[5:00:26] thing I knew was my mouth was
[5:00:28] wid shut and I didn't know why
[5:00:31] so I walked into my mar tried to
[5:00:34] find my mom. I remember sitting
[5:00:35] back there for a half hour
[5:00:37] trying to figure out what's
[5:00:39] going on and so I walked in to
[5:00:41] try to find my mom who just
[5:00:43] happened to be coming down the
[5:00:44] hallway my my mom operated a
[5:00:48] shoe store and so she's getting
[5:00:50] ready to go to work and Is
[5:00:51] stopped her
[5:00:53] why is my mouth wiren't shut and
[5:00:55] I can still remember that look
[5:00:57] on her face of
[5:00:59] well you were in a snowmobile
[5:01:02] wreck at Summit Lake, but I
[5:01:04] grabbed her and I said momm what
[5:01:05] what what do you mean? I just
[5:01:07] got here fromor which is the
[5:01:10] first time I was ever able to
[5:01:12] say that to her even though it
[5:01:15] would take me three or four
[5:01:16] months to be able to remember
[5:01:18] about being inor and coming home
[5:01:22] I just said it and just that
[5:01:24] look on her face I can still
[5:01:26] feel her arm her hands on my
[5:01:28] arms. Oh your back
[5:01:31] you're back
[5:01:33] what do you mean? what happened
[5:01:35] to me? Why is my mouth wired
[5:01:36] shut?
[5:01:37] So I'd already forgot about
[5:01:39] being in the snowmobile wreck
[5:01:41] and that's the way it is with
[5:01:43] brain injury. it took me a long
[5:01:45] time that short term memory loss
[5:01:49] now I want to come up to
[5:01:51] this next when I this next is a
[5:01:55] letter fromRobert Saposky. he's
[5:01:58] a noted neuroscientist from
[5:01:58] Chicago
[5:02:03] when I came when I came to and I
[5:02:05] started having friends come over
[5:02:06] to see me after after I got out
[5:02:09] of the hospital I could
[5:02:11] recognize her face but I
[5:02:13] couldn't remember their name
[5:02:14] and that really bothered it it
[5:02:17] was embarrassing. I mean I a
[5:02:19] small town my graduating class
[5:02:21] was 98 kids and that was a long
[5:02:25] largest class in in the school
[5:02:26] history but I knew everybody,
[5:02:29] everybody knew me and I couldn't
[5:02:31] remember their name
[5:02:33] and it was just so embarrassing
[5:02:36] and the harder that I tried to
[5:02:37] remember the more impossible it
[5:02:40] was
[5:02:41] but my baseball
[5:02:42] skills kicked in
[5:02:46] because that's one thing you
[5:02:47] learn as a pitcher is how to
[5:02:49] control stress so that you can
[5:02:52] block all this stuff that's
[5:02:55] going on because your job is to
[5:02:57] throw strikes get people out
[5:02:59] that's focused concentration but
[5:03:01] most of all it's relaxation
[5:03:05] because when you're pitching
[5:03:09] and if you don't manage the
[5:03:11] stress your wrist straightens
[5:03:14] out stiffens up and your
[5:03:16] fastball straightens out which
[5:03:18] makes it easier to hit so your
[5:03:21] drill all the time about
[5:03:23] listening to your body. nowadays
[5:03:26] that's called biofeedback
[5:03:29] and staying calm keeping your
[5:03:31] poise, breathing that's all
[5:03:34] called mindfulness
[5:03:35] now
[5:03:38] so all these things that I had
[5:03:41] to learn the hard way. I mean I
[5:03:45] I like to tell people that I
[5:03:46] greg graduated from the school
[5:03:48] of hard knocks because that's
[5:03:51] the way it is. I mean within the
[5:03:53] brain injury
[5:03:57] so let me go and so when I
[5:03:59] did that when I listened to my
[5:04:01] body
[5:04:03] and just
[5:04:04] stayed calm sometimes their name
[5:04:07] would come
[5:04:09] not every time but it it would
[5:04:12] definitely would never come if
[5:04:14] I'm trying to remember and
[5:04:16] it just it just that's just how
[5:04:18] it works and so I kept that and
[5:04:21] so once I started having
[5:04:24] I'm a founding member of the
[5:04:27] Oregon Head Injury Foundation
[5:04:29] in1985 so I'll come up a little
[5:04:31] bit from that50 years so I was
[5:04:35] appointed by5 governors in
[5:04:37] Oregon to sit on the Oregon
[5:04:38] disability commission because of
[5:04:41] my experience and knowhow as a
[5:04:44] vista volunteer in1988. I
[5:04:47] started the first brain injury
[5:04:49] supported living program in
[5:04:52] the country as
[5:04:54] a vista volunteer so I mean I've
[5:04:56] been active in all this stuff
[5:04:58] but this is all part of my
[5:04:59] knowledge and that's what I want
[5:05:04] to share with with y'all because
[5:05:04] right now you've got a you've
[5:05:07] got a your vice chair has had a
[5:05:08] brain injury and it's it really
[5:05:12] is important I mean that that
[5:05:15] you see here as capable and just
[5:05:17] because she has a brain injury
[5:05:19] doesn't mean that she's not
[5:05:20] capable because she's more than
[5:05:22] capable I've talked to her a lot
[5:05:24] I I hope I'm not making her
[5:05:26] uncomfortable but it really
[5:05:30] is critical that we
[5:05:32] identify folks with brain
[5:05:35] injuries on the streets and
[5:05:38] that's really part part of why
[5:05:39] I'm here this next inf
[5:05:40] information I got is a guy
[5:05:44] that's I picked this up when I
[5:05:46] was given my groups I've been
[5:05:47] giving groups here for over
[5:05:51] fif years this was one of my
[5:05:53] first
[5:05:54] groups I went to at the jail to
[5:05:56] talk about brain injury
[5:05:58] awareness bring it because I I
[5:06:01] believe and again that's why I'm
[5:06:04] here is to is to identify people
[5:06:08] with brain injuries on the
[5:06:09] streets of Gallup because unless
[5:06:12] we do this it's going to make
[5:06:14] really solving the problem of
[5:06:17] the revolving door that we have
[5:06:18] here impossible to to end
[5:06:23] so
[5:06:24] the next
[5:06:25] handout I've got is the coping
[5:06:29] with stress
[5:06:31] this is the mindfulness that I
[5:06:33] talk about
[5:06:35] this is the ways that we can
[5:06:37] assist people at the hojos I
[5:06:41] forgot to tell you I'm executive
[5:06:43] director of thehosho Center for
[5:06:44] Personal Enhancement. our office
[5:06:46] is down in the mall. We
[5:06:48] primarily work with people on
[5:06:50] the streets
[5:06:53] I've talked about this
[5:06:55] identifying people with with
[5:06:57] brain injuries for over 20
[5:06:59] years. I just had my 2fourth
[5:07:01] anniversary living ingumerco
[5:07:05] I've been living here for 24
[5:07:07] years so and when the
[5:07:11] hozhouenter was first being
[5:07:12] organized it was being
[5:07:15] organized as a drop in center
[5:07:17] for people on the streets with
[5:07:19] alcohol substance abuse and
[5:07:21] mental health issues
[5:07:23] I got involved because when I
[5:07:26] heard mental health I wanted to
[5:07:28] make sure that people with brain
[5:07:30] injuries were a part of this
[5:07:32] discussion
[5:07:36] because
[5:07:37] mental health mental illness and
[5:07:39] brain injury they're all
[5:07:40] separate well it probably a
[5:07:43] brain injuries are included with
[5:07:45] mental health but I wanted to
[5:07:46] make sure that specifically
[5:07:48] people with brain injuries were
[5:07:50] identified
[5:07:52] so that we could so they would
[5:07:54] receive the type of care in
[5:07:56] terms of stress management,
[5:07:58] everything that I've learned
[5:07:59] over the last50 years has been
[5:08:02] what I've been talking about
[5:08:04] so
[5:08:05] there's the second one young
[5:08:08] young brain shaped by fear and
[5:08:10] pain that really is some of the
[5:08:12] trauma that we're seeing on the
[5:08:14] streets so when and that's why
[5:08:18] everyone is in a state of
[5:08:22] reaction they're not capable
[5:08:26] they're they're in their
[5:08:27] survival skill that their
[5:08:29] survival instincts are in
[5:08:30] control
[5:08:33] uhpresentativeabbelcaballero
[5:08:35] sorry when you mention that
[5:08:39] about intake it's critical
[5:08:43] see that's why I mentioned now
[5:08:46] on your second handout here
[5:08:49] you've got
[5:08:50] we're working with UN them we
[5:08:52] have two interns that we're
[5:08:54] working with who are passing out
[5:08:56] these these are are surveys
[5:08:59] because we want to get to those
[5:09:00] questions because right now
[5:09:03] intakes the way they are they're
[5:09:06] pretty much they don't ask the
[5:09:08] right questions
[5:09:10] and as a part of this handout
[5:09:13] and the questions that we're
[5:09:14] asking on the second page
[5:09:17] there's a
[5:09:20] there's a screening tool
[5:09:24] that we want everybody to use
[5:09:27] right now the only ones that are
[5:09:29] using it are Gallup Indian
[5:09:30] Medical Center that I'm aware of
[5:09:34] some of the MCO's
[5:09:36] presbyterian Molina they've
[5:09:38] picked it up to so they're
[5:09:40] starting to use a different
[5:09:41] screening tool not this one. I
[5:09:43] just found out about this one at
[5:09:45] our last brain injury
[5:09:46] advisory council meeting you
[5:09:48] have a question OK yeah as part
[5:09:51] of our I'm on the brain
[5:09:53] injury advisory council
[5:09:55] and I just found out that that
[5:09:56] we that
[5:10:00] my act have our own separate
[5:10:01] screening tool that's tied in to
[5:10:05] to to the part to HCA so that
[5:10:07] they're starting to gather this
[5:10:09] information so they can kind of
[5:10:11] ferret it out
[5:10:12] and that will that's that will
[5:10:14] be included with Senate
[5:10:18] Bill30. that's part of this
[5:10:19] Senate bill3 again I think that
[5:10:21] you have Senate Bill30
[5:10:24] yeah
[5:10:26] and so
[5:10:27] ok
[5:10:31] the last thing I want to talk
[5:10:32] about is that I was identi I was
[5:10:35] contracted last week this is
[5:10:36] another thing at thehozhoenter
[5:10:38] is working on and that's a
[5:10:40] creation of of a youth center
[5:10:42] youth homeless center there's
[5:10:44] gonna be a meeting at our
[5:10:47] office onn on Thursday at one
[5:10:54] o'clock the person att Donnia
[5:10:54] she's the one that contacted me
[5:10:56] about this meeting we think that
[5:10:58] there's that there's really a
[5:10:59] need for
[5:11:00] a shelter a youth shelter so
[5:11:04] we're so our role is to advocate
[5:11:06] and draw people together so that
[5:11:09] we can create that
[5:11:12] and in closing I just want to
[5:11:14] thank you for this opportunity
[5:11:16] to be here. I know it's kind
[5:11:18] it's a lot to put5y years into
[5:11:23] fif minutes but but you know
[5:11:26] I've been trying to identify
[5:11:28] folks here with brain injuries
[5:11:30] and I see the I see that s that
[5:11:34] sy or that senate bill 30 is a
[5:11:36] way to do that and I'm not
[5:11:40] really sure what I could be
[5:11:41] asking of the committee. I know
[5:11:43] that Judgeyazi in Danielle
[5:11:48] are going to be talking and we
[5:11:50] have an MOU with them
[5:11:52] I don't know if they're they're
[5:11:53] here yet are they here yet? OK
[5:11:53] great.
[5:11:56] so are are you
[5:12:02] OK OK but we support what
[5:12:05] they're doing and they support
[5:12:06] what we're doing
[5:12:08] and and and but it's some we're
[5:12:11] we're the lone angers out here
[5:12:15] you know I mean I've talked to
[5:12:17] Patty Lundstrom and I talked to
[5:12:18] Billy I've been talking for 24
[5:12:20] years in identifying people with
[5:12:22] brain injuries and that it's
[5:12:25] just now starting to happen
[5:12:28] but however how much you can
[5:12:30] help with that I'd really
[5:12:32] appreciate it I I'm telling you
[5:12:36] until we identify these folks
[5:12:38] and get them the care that they
[5:12:40] need the revolving door is going
[5:12:43] to continue here
[5:12:45] and you know we're we the
[5:12:48] hosienter for Personal
[5:12:49] enhancement we're doing some
[5:12:51] good stuff you know and we could
[5:12:53] use your support
[5:12:56] So I don't know that
[5:12:57] my buddy here
[5:12:59] join in
[5:13:06] got ado J Robinsonhom and
[5:13:11] touching in
[5:13:20] richard from Robinson my name
[5:13:24] Robinson I'm very before36 and a
[5:13:25] half years
[5:13:28] I start off with rom pointhaviur
[5:13:29] healthalth
[5:13:31] as a cook used to be cook around
[5:13:33] here
[5:13:35] then
[5:13:37] after that17e years I've been
[5:13:40] working with the behavio health
[5:13:43] after that I left the laid me
[5:13:45] off and I started working for
[5:13:47] Napa Autoarts
[5:13:49] only worked for three weeks
[5:13:52] and hova RChhar me back
[5:13:54] as a
[5:13:56] staff out there and then
[5:13:59] they closed
[5:14:03] 36 years
[5:14:05] then I worked for
[5:14:06] what do you call it Santa Fe
[5:14:12] recovery housing over here
[5:14:13] recovery center I was working
[5:14:14] over there
[5:14:15] and then I I I just resigned
[5:14:18] and I feel comfortable but you
[5:14:22] know I was like ok
[5:14:24] a lot of conflicts between me
[5:14:26] and the
[5:14:26] staff I guess I never knew until
[5:14:29] that in but it was ok I'm
[5:14:31] working with my own people
[5:14:33] then he came and told me that he
[5:14:37] obinson want to hire you I know
[5:14:38] what you do
[5:14:39] so that's why I'm working I'm a
[5:14:41] traditional practitioner forgot
[5:14:43] to tell you that I'm a medicine
[5:14:44] man
[5:14:45] I got license I got certified
[5:14:47] and I never knew I was going
[5:14:49] to be one of that
[5:14:51] I never knew I was going to be
[5:14:52] where I'm sitting at you
[5:14:54] I'm a chapter official too with
[5:14:56] little water chapter
[5:14:58] I'm the vice president for the
[5:15:00] community at the little water
[5:15:02] and I have three kids my
[5:15:04] older daughter working with
[5:15:06] Crown Point Universityiv and
[5:15:09] then my wife would stay as
[5:15:11] human resource
[5:15:13] and then my son he's in Boston,
[5:15:16] Massachusetts atharard
[5:15:17] University MIT
[5:15:19] that's where he's going to
[5:15:20] school
[5:15:21] my son is about to graduate with
[5:15:25] medicalre and then my
[5:15:25] youngest one is working at
[5:15:26] Gallllup in the medicalenter up
[5:15:27] here he's just
[5:15:30] so I'm actually from umiranoly
[5:15:35] this community called pinedale
[5:15:36] Morenno especially in between
[5:15:36] the
[5:15:39] I was raised without no water
[5:15:43] no electric she
[5:15:44] just let go
[5:15:46] we're fighting with the sheep
[5:15:50] just wanted to bring in we have
[5:15:52] and I always think that that's
[5:15:55] ok but you know
[5:15:56] I'm glad I'm I'm here now that
[5:15:59] I'm helping my own people down
[5:16:00] at Hajoenter and recovery
[5:16:02] housing we had a hook on that we
[5:16:04] built up there at the recovery
[5:16:04] house and
[5:16:06] and then I'm down here at the
[5:16:10] the officeistan here doing
[5:16:10] talking in circle
[5:16:12] people come in come in every
[5:16:14] every morning to come in
[5:16:15] to sign up and
[5:16:17] the thing that I tell him to say
[5:16:19] hey man look at me
[5:16:21] I should be one of you. I used
[5:16:23] to walk the street when I was
[5:16:24] young
[5:16:26] tell them that you saw s sleep
[5:16:27] in the
[5:16:28] ditch
[5:16:30] where you guys were at you see
[5:16:32] you out of the
[5:16:36] I went there for what
[5:16:39] now I'm here
[5:16:41] and you guys can change
[5:16:42] I changed when I was 25 years
[5:16:44] old.
[5:16:45] and today we tell them that on
[5:16:52] there's good people up there
[5:16:53] that you can understand
[5:16:56] you know
[5:16:57] and I lost my mom when I was
[5:16:59] three years old
[5:17:00] I don't know how but
[5:17:02] and then my dad about 20
[5:17:06] this is part of my
[5:17:09] work
[5:17:10] every day
[5:17:12] I'm enjoying coming in from
[5:17:13] Liwater to here about an hour m
[5:17:16] round trip
[5:17:18] or street
[5:17:19] the long streets1
[5:17:22] so that's me thank you again for
[5:17:24] having me here sitting sharing
[5:17:25] my
[5:17:27] my experience with alcohol
[5:17:30] I always tell these guys that
[5:17:31] too is that
[5:17:32] nowadays nowadays there's
[5:17:35] alcohol miniatures
[5:17:36] or whatever they have
[5:17:38] they have watermelon flavor
[5:17:40] banana flavors that's what all
[5:17:43] our young kids are dying from
[5:17:45] they can't
[5:17:46] taste the alcohol that's where
[5:17:49] they eating the liver
[5:17:51] and I kept telling me I need
[5:17:54] thank you again for listening
[5:17:57] Thank you madam chairir. I just
[5:18:06] want to thank you for your
[5:18:07] presentation and your work in
[5:18:10] our
[5:18:14] previously I know I have
[5:18:15] earmarked
[5:18:35] communities or
[5:18:55] sorry
[5:19:01] do we had a dinner at Don
[5:19:04] Diego's it's an annual dinner
[5:19:07] with Santa Fe recovery with
[5:19:09] their board and I brought up to
[5:19:12] the chair and the new CEO for
[5:19:14] them to take the lead in
[5:19:17] developing a brain injury
[5:19:19] rehabilitation program
[5:19:21] they have a contact in I
[5:19:24] think it was Colorado with it an
[5:19:28] agency or or an organization
[5:19:29] that works specifically with
[5:19:32] alcohol substance abuse and
[5:19:34] brain injury so I'm working on
[5:19:37] that right now and if we could
[5:19:38] get say that organization to
[5:19:41] come here and set up shop that
[5:19:44] would be great. that would be
[5:19:45] just what we need because that's
[5:19:48] one of the things that's
[5:19:49] identified insenate bill30 is
[5:19:51] a need a recommendation that
[5:19:54] because right now there's no
[5:19:55] place in state everybody sent
[5:19:58] out a state
[5:20:00] for any kind of rehab brain
[5:20:01] injury rehab
[5:20:07] injury rehabilitation injury
[5:20:08] rehabilitation program that's
[5:20:10] one of the recommendations
[5:20:11] because there's nothing in in in
[5:20:13] New Mexico and there needs to be
[5:20:17] but so that's what I mentioned
[5:20:18] to but they say oh that's
[5:20:20] something we could look at so I
[5:20:21] mean see it's this kind of work
[5:20:23] I see that I do to give people
[5:20:26] ideas and reach out and connect
[5:20:29] with people
[5:20:33] but they didn't say no they just
[5:20:35] said then then that's how he
[5:20:37] found out about this the program
[5:20:39] that they know about that works
[5:20:41] with people with brain injuries
[5:20:46] because that would be ideal and
[5:20:48] then we are also working with
[5:20:49] brain injury it's not brain it's
[5:20:52] life skillsternational and
[5:20:54] that's something that I'm hoping
[5:20:56] that Judgeyazi will will bring
[5:20:59] up because we're working on
[5:21:00] identi this this this
[5:21:07] life skillsternational they
[5:21:07] work around the state but it's
[5:21:11] healing childhood trauma
[5:21:14] and curing complex PTSD
[5:21:19] they've got curriculum, they
[5:21:21] work with schools they've worked
[5:21:23] with domestic violence
[5:21:25] organizations with state
[5:21:27] agencies probation so they've
[5:21:31] worked with a number of and so
[5:21:33] that's who we're trying to get
[5:21:35] within our MOU that we're
[5:21:37] working on with with the courts
[5:21:40] is have the courts work with
[5:21:43] life skillsternational and I'm
[5:21:46] hoping that they're going to
[5:21:47] come up and she all kinds of
[5:21:49] great
[5:21:49] things about what they're doing
[5:21:52] but but but this has so much
[5:21:55] potential to solve our problems
[5:21:57] here
[5:21:58] to solve childhood trauma
[5:22:01] and cure complex PTSD and I
[5:22:05] believe in them. I I mean I it's
[5:22:07] it's not just belief but I've
[5:22:10] been involved with hearing and
[5:22:13] working with life skills to
[5:22:17] know that what they're talking
[5:22:19] about is the same thing that I
[5:22:21] talk about but it's finding the
[5:22:24] are really getting to that place
[5:22:27] to where practice you know
[5:22:31] that's what the curriculum
[5:22:32] offers people is a way because
[5:22:34] it's not just it's like with
[5:22:36] mindfulness for example you can
[5:22:38] read about mindfulness and go oh
[5:22:40] yeah that makes sense but you've
[5:22:42] got to practice it you got to
[5:22:44] practice it and so that's what
[5:22:47] life schools International has
[5:22:49] done. they've developed a system
[5:22:52] with a curriculum that makes it
[5:22:55] all happen
[5:22:56] and I'll just leave it up to
[5:22:58] them now to hope I didn't
[5:23:05] thank you and I think the
[5:23:06] well I don't really have
[5:23:08] questions for
[5:23:11] yeah we talked about
[5:23:15] but do have questions for our
[5:23:19] our our state people where this
[5:23:20] is going so
[5:23:24] and about finding in about SB3
[5:23:25] and all of that but stay in the
[5:23:27] stay in the conversation
[5:23:28] continue to advocate that's very
[5:23:30] important especially with this
[5:23:41] do you
[5:23:41] get the notices on some of that
[5:23:45] I believe you were involved with
[5:23:47] some of the planning that
[5:23:53] Wa SB3 I was but I never got
[5:23:55] invited back
[5:23:57] think they well they did have
[5:23:58] the initial meetings and yeah
[5:23:59] they had the initial meetings
[5:24:00] and there's been ongoing but we
[5:24:03] don't give you any help from
[5:24:04] people well yeah it was just
[5:24:08] really developing the point but
[5:24:09] thank you thank you for the work
[5:24:10] you do I don't want
[5:24:16] there'll be future work
[5:24:19] oh you're in trouble
[5:24:23] ok so committee members but
[5:24:24] thank you for joining us thank
[5:24:25] you Mr do you have any closing
[5:24:27] comment thank you very much and
[5:24:28] forgot to mention my brother
[5:24:30] I have an older brother named
[5:24:31] young Jeff Tom that's my older
[5:24:34] brother. I'm the youngest one
[5:24:35] from that family
[5:24:37] so just letting you guys do that
[5:24:40] thank you and now we will move
[5:24:43] to item 6 update from the
[5:24:45] McKinley County DWI court with
[5:24:47] our judgeyazi and miss Daniel
[5:24:51] Lechetti with the manager
[5:25:06] Testing testing
[5:25:11] good afternoon madam chairir.
[5:25:16] Senator Pino and of course
[5:25:17] committee members and of course
[5:25:19] representatives good afternoon
[5:25:21] thank you again for inviting us
[5:25:22] to give you an update on our DWI
[5:25:24] treatment program
[5:25:27] ga in I am Virginia Yazie I
[5:25:30] am currently the presiding judge
[5:25:33] over our DWI treatment program
[5:25:35] at the magistrate court here in
[5:25:37] Gallup.
[5:25:38] let me introduce myself again
[5:25:42] in Navajo I'm Navajo show
[5:25:44] y'all Virginiayazinia hasinli
[5:25:50] chai t
[5:25:56] and a nasha I come from
[5:25:58] cottonellevide. I drive every
[5:25:59] day again on I-40 with all the
[5:26:02] construction going on on on I-40
[5:26:05] so I make it to work on time
[5:26:07] sometimes especially during the
[5:26:09] wintertime it's kind of
[5:26:10] difficult to drive
[5:26:12] but again we're here to again
[5:26:14] provide you updates again
[5:26:16] regarding our DWI treatment
[5:26:19] program.gain our DWI treatment
[5:26:20] program has been in fruition
[5:26:22] since 2022 during that time
[5:26:26] we had our program was
[5:26:31] we didn't have a lot of support
[5:26:33] during that time and where we
[5:26:35] were going to lose our funding
[5:26:36] for our DWI treatment program
[5:26:38] and we had to become we had to
[5:26:40] come before this committee to
[5:26:42] request that the the funds not
[5:26:44] be reverted back to again the
[5:26:46] state so we can continue to try
[5:26:48] to create our program in
[5:26:51] which again Senator Pinto during
[5:26:52] that time representative
[5:26:54] Johnson and all the other
[5:26:57] representatives during that
[5:26:59] timegain assisted us in keeping
[5:27:00] the program
[5:27:01] going and now we earn inn
[5:27:03] fruition again we are again
[5:27:05] thankful for all the support
[5:27:08] that was provided by our
[5:27:10] representatives at this moment
[5:27:12] again we have a during that time
[5:27:14] I had a different
[5:27:15] program manager. her name was
[5:27:19] Chanellle Franklin and
[5:27:20] she went on to of course
[5:27:24] continue her education in the
[5:27:29] in the behavioral health field
[5:27:30] and again we are thankful for
[5:27:32] everything that she's done for
[5:27:33] our program and now we have our
[5:27:35] new program manager here Miss
[5:27:39] Daniel Likety I'm gonna have her
[5:27:40] introduce herself and then
[5:27:41] she'll give us a rundown as to
[5:27:44] again she'll provide us an
[5:27:45] update as to how our program is
[5:27:46] doing Mlikety
[5:27:50] thank you judgedge. good
[5:27:50] afternoon everyone. My name is
[5:27:52] Danielle Lekety. I'm very sorry
[5:27:54] I'm not able to introduce myself
[5:27:55] traditionally. I am a urban
[5:27:58] native.
[5:28:02] my name is Danielleakety. I am
[5:28:02] half Navajo and half Sunni
[5:28:05] and I've lived in Gallup my
[5:28:07] entire life. My dad was from
[5:28:09] Zunni. He born and raised in
[5:28:11] zuni and was sent to rehobus for
[5:28:12] school.
[5:28:14] and he never moved back to Zunni
[5:28:16] so he he stayed in Gallup was
[5:28:18] part of the medical field he
[5:28:21] was an EMT paramedic and
[5:28:22] instructor coordinator for M
[5:28:24] mestar and helped set up the
[5:28:26] EMS system here inallup here
[5:28:29] in Zunni as well as the Navajo
[5:28:30] Nation. He assisted Sa Benito
[5:28:33] with their EMS services setting
[5:28:35] that up. like I said, I've lived
[5:28:37] here for in gallup for my entire
[5:28:39] life born and raised so my
[5:28:41] community means a lot to me and
[5:28:43] this was
[5:28:44] this is meaningful work to me
[5:28:49] so to follow up on Ju what
[5:28:52] Judgeazzie stated we are very
[5:28:54] thankful that this program is
[5:28:55] still up and going and shenel
[5:28:58] did a lot of work just putting
[5:29:00] it together, getting it
[5:29:01] established, getting it off the
[5:29:02] ground
[5:29:04] came in and picked up where she
[5:29:06] left off so I'm very thankful
[5:29:07] for the work that she did before
[5:29:09] me. as Dojazzy said our first
[5:29:11] participant for the program
[5:29:13] was inducted back in November of
[5:29:15] 2022.
[5:29:17] as to date we have graduated16
[5:29:21] of our participants so far.
[5:29:23] total number of participants we
[5:29:25] have served in the program is42.
[5:29:27] so we have had42 participants in
[5:29:29] total since the first induction
[5:29:31] in November of 2022.
[5:29:34] Our current caseload is18. I do
[5:29:38] have17 individuals in person and
[5:29:39] one in extended treatment
[5:29:41] we have had in total 24
[5:29:44] discharges
[5:29:45] seven of these discharges were
[5:29:48] unsuccessful.wo absconded and
[5:29:48] ive were noncompliant.
[5:29:52] There was one neutral discharge
[5:29:54] for medical reasons
[5:30:00] and16 successful discharges. We
[5:30:00] also have 6 participants that
[5:30:02] are scheduled to graduate on
[5:30:03] Monday, September twentyeh
[5:30:06] which will bring our count to
[5:30:10] 3030 discharges but 22
[5:30:12] successful graduations.
[5:30:14] we also
[5:30:17] our recidivism rate our graduate
[5:30:19] recidivism rate for fy 26
[5:30:23] is14.29%. However, I was
[5:30:24] informed by my supervisor
[5:30:26] this afternoon as well that we
[5:30:28] are actually below the national
[5:30:30] average for recidivism which is
[5:30:33] a 28 to35% rate three years
[5:30:36] postgrad. so that was very
[5:30:38] very encouraging to hear you
[5:30:39] know
[5:30:43] so that that's those are our
[5:30:45] current numbers now we will
[5:30:47] be accepting new referrals
[5:30:49] probably at the end of the year.
[5:30:50] with discharging six of these
[5:30:54] participants that does bring my
[5:30:57] caseload down to12. So I try to
[5:30:58] keep it roughly about 20 I think
[5:31:00] my largest caseload was about 21
[5:31:02] or 22 individuals but for me to
[5:31:04] oversee them and supervise them
[5:31:06] on my own that's quite a bit so
[5:31:07] I try to cap it out at 20 but
[5:31:09] the more individuals we can help
[5:31:11] you know that's that's the most
[5:31:12] important thing
[5:31:14] so yes those are those are
[5:31:15] some numbers but just to kind of
[5:31:17] give you an idea of our program
[5:31:18] as well we do have a
[5:31:21] multidisciplinary team which
[5:31:22] consists of the judge she
[5:31:24] oversees the program. I'm the
[5:31:26] program manager and coordinator.
[5:31:28] I also do supervision and
[5:31:32] kinda whatever needs to be done,
[5:31:34] I I will switch my hat as
[5:31:35] necessary. We are currently
[5:31:37] contracted withinsu Behavioral
[5:31:40] Health which is a newer agency
[5:31:42] within the community I
[5:31:44] believe they got started about
[5:31:46] I'm a couple of years ago I
[5:31:49] don't want to give an exact
[5:31:50] date. I may be wrong but yes
[5:31:51] they they have been in the
[5:31:52] community for I want to say
[5:31:54] about5 years or so we were
[5:31:57] previously contracted with our
[5:31:59] Corners or Santa Ferecovery as
[5:32:01] they're now known. we still have
[5:32:03] an MOUis four corners here for
[5:32:04] our inpatient residential so
[5:32:06] we're able to send particip
[5:32:08] ant s that are qualified for
[5:32:10] inpatient here to wind I'm
[5:32:12] sorry here to our corners here
[5:32:13] in Gallup. and still working
[5:32:16] withinsung as well. We also did
[5:32:18] develop an MOU as Ken said
[5:32:22] withhozhouenter for Personal
[5:32:23] Enhancement. So we are
[5:32:24] we are hoping that we can well
[5:32:29] not hoping this is what our plan
[5:32:30] is is we're gonna start to
[5:32:32] incorporate more healing to
[5:32:34] wellness what's called healing
[5:32:35] to wellness and what that is is
[5:32:36] basically traditional healing.
[5:32:39] so we can utilize their
[5:32:42] serviceshozhouenter services
[5:32:42] such as their hoon for any type
[5:32:45] of meetings and also their
[5:32:47] well brady talking circle so
[5:32:49] those are some more options for
[5:32:51] our participants who want to
[5:32:53] stay engaged with traditional
[5:32:55] practices and it also opens
[5:32:57] up the cultural and
[5:32:59] traditional component for those
[5:33:01] individuals who maybe grew up
[5:33:04] without that connection without
[5:33:05] that tie and now they're they're
[5:33:07] looking for something they're
[5:33:08] searching you know for
[5:33:09] spirituality and that's
[5:33:11] another option for them so we
[5:33:13] encourage them to stay connected
[5:33:15] with their traditions and
[5:33:17] developing that MOU withhozi was
[5:33:19] a way for us to do that and
[5:33:21] provide those for our
[5:33:22] participants. we also have an
[5:33:25] alumni support group that I
[5:33:26] would like to highlight because
[5:33:28] I think our alumni support group
[5:33:29] is a very important part of our
[5:33:31] program
[5:33:32] the alumni support group
[5:33:34] consists of graduates of the
[5:33:36] program
[5:33:39] and they they the train
[5:33:42] coordinators we have4 trained
[5:33:42] coordinators so they went
[5:33:43] through the training process to
[5:33:44] become a coordinator learning
[5:33:47] about ethics learning about
[5:33:48] boundaries learning how to
[5:33:49] conduct a group appropriately.
[5:33:51] so we do have4 trained
[5:33:53] coordinators for our program
[5:33:56] to our contracted with the state
[5:33:57] of New Mexico and two are
[5:33:59] pending graduation at after
[5:34:01] graduation they will be
[5:34:02] contracted. So out of those six
[5:34:03] graduates we have on Monday
[5:34:05] two of them are ready to
[5:34:06] contract with the state of New
[5:34:07] Mexico as alumni coordinators
[5:34:09] we hold our alumni support group
[5:34:11] at the courthouse before ourDWI
[5:34:14] treatment court docket. it's an
[5:34:17] hourlong, just basically a
[5:34:18] recovery group something where
[5:34:20] they it I guess it could be
[5:34:22] equated to something similar to
[5:34:24] like a maybe an AA group a
[5:34:26] support group but it's also just
[5:34:28] a safe space for them to
[5:34:29] share and
[5:34:33] just you know kind of reflect on
[5:34:36] things together as a whole.
[5:34:38] Again, these are participants of
[5:34:39] the program both previously and
[5:34:41] current. and this is only for
[5:34:43] our participants of the
[5:34:44] treatment court programme. So I
[5:34:45] always tell the participants you
[5:34:46] know it's a safe place. please
[5:34:48] go and attend if you want to
[5:34:51] vent about the program you want
[5:34:52] to vent about me you know that's
[5:34:53] a safe place it's it's all
[5:34:54] confidential our alumni
[5:34:56] coordinators do keep it
[5:34:57] confidential and are only
[5:34:58] required to for mandated
[5:35:00] reporting so our participants
[5:35:03] have
[5:35:03] really enjoyed that and I
[5:35:05] appreciate our two trained
[5:35:07] coordinators that are contracted
[5:35:08] Tyrone Castillo and Duane
[5:35:12] Chamani. when I came on for this
[5:35:13] program officially came on I
[5:35:16] over I started to oversee the
[5:35:18] program in February of
[5:35:19] 2024 and then started with the
[5:35:23] state of New Mexico became a
[5:35:25] permanent employee in September
[5:35:26] of 2024 as well. So within that
[5:35:29] time I was just overseeing
[5:35:31] the program and working for the
[5:35:32] compliance program with
[5:35:34] McKinley County. once I was
[5:35:36] officially in my position as the
[5:35:37] program manager, the first thing
[5:35:39] that I told my supervisor was I
[5:35:41] want to get the alumni group
[5:35:42] going. We know we need to have
[5:35:43] some support for our
[5:35:44] participants as well. and I
[5:35:47] put the offer out there to our
[5:35:48] previous graduates and
[5:35:50] thankfullyduane and Tyrone did
[5:35:51] step up and you know offered to
[5:35:53] help me so they've been employed
[5:35:54] with the state probably just as
[5:35:56] long as I have but I I have a
[5:35:57] deep appreciation for them
[5:36:00] Tyrone in the meantime has
[5:36:02] advanced his education
[5:36:03] and is enrolled with the UNM and
[5:36:06] looking to pursue a career in
[5:36:09] the behavioral health field as
[5:36:10] well he's doing great things and
[5:36:12] working with peer peer
[5:36:13] members from thehozhou uhenter
[5:36:16] as well and thenduanne is also
[5:36:17] our
[5:36:19] our other coordinator he is from
[5:36:23] Zunni as well and he stays in
[5:36:24] contact with celebrate recovery
[5:36:27] and you know kind of keeps the
[5:36:28] recovery group going within the
[5:36:31] unique community and our our
[5:36:31] community here within Gallup and
[5:36:34] then also being a part of our
[5:36:35] alumni group as well. So I'm
[5:36:36] very thankful for these
[5:36:37] individuals and I think peer
[5:36:39] support is you know the other
[5:36:41] half of what makes our program
[5:36:43] work. being able to have peers
[5:36:45] available for our participants
[5:36:47] that understand what they're
[5:36:48] going through, understand how
[5:36:50] difficult the
[5:36:50] program can be and but they
[5:36:53] can say they did it you know
[5:36:54] they made it they struggled
[5:36:56] through it so whatever support
[5:36:58] they and motivation they can
[5:36:59] offer our participants we we
[5:37:01] extremely are appreciative of it
[5:37:05] and then like I said just a it's
[5:37:08] just a kind of a rundown of how
[5:37:09] our how our program works I'm
[5:37:12] not sure if you all are you know
[5:37:13] familiar with treatment courts
[5:37:15] but we do have a
[5:37:15] multidisciplinary team that
[5:37:18] consists of the
[5:37:19] the judge myself probation
[5:37:22] officers from the compliance
[5:37:24] program our treatment providers
[5:37:25] as well as we have a
[5:37:28] contracted defense counsel for
[5:37:30] our for our participants. So our
[5:37:32] defense counsel is our go to for
[5:37:35] our participants if there's any
[5:37:36] noncompliance, if there's you
[5:37:38] know any kind of questions,
[5:37:39] anything like that our defense
[5:37:40] counsel makes sure that we're
[5:37:42] abiding by all legal proceedings
[5:37:45] and you know not violating
[5:37:46] anybody's rights so they are the
[5:37:48] advocate for our participants
[5:37:49] and our participant
[5:37:50] s know that and they will call
[5:37:52] her they you know we've we're
[5:37:55] going through a transition right
[5:37:56] now and there was some issues
[5:37:57] regarding UAs and of course you
[5:38:02] know you a's are always gonna
[5:38:02] make our participants nervous
[5:38:05] you know if there may be like
[5:38:06] false positives or whatever so
[5:38:07] they contacted their defense
[5:38:09] counsel but this was a great
[5:38:10] illustration of our
[5:38:12] participant's learning to
[5:38:13] advocate for themselves. so that
[5:38:15] was a great way for us to say
[5:38:18] you know you're doing what
[5:38:18] you're supposed to be doing and
[5:38:19] and they
[5:38:20] ' re you know they're being
[5:38:21] heard and somebody is advocating
[5:38:22] for them and some of these
[5:38:24] things are
[5:38:27] are participants have never had
[5:38:28] to do this before or they may be
[5:38:30] scared they may not know how to
[5:38:32] go about it. They just kind of
[5:38:34] roll with the punches they've
[5:38:35] been in the legal system for so
[5:38:37] long they just do what they're
[5:38:38] told but so we're we're showing
[5:38:39] them to advocate for themselves
[5:38:41] and then to touch a little bit
[5:38:42] on a life skills that Ken was
[5:38:44] talking about. We do have
[5:38:45] certain curriculums that they
[5:38:47] are required to
[5:38:48] complete the treatment component
[5:38:52] is through the entirety of the
[5:38:53] program so as soon as we get
[5:38:55] them in they're going for IopP
[5:38:57] which is intensive outpatient a
[5:38:59] 90da program. Once they complete
[5:39:01] that they step down to what is
[5:39:03] called moral recognition therapy
[5:39:05] and that is where we see the
[5:39:07] change happening and it is it
[5:39:11] it'si do not have the words for
[5:39:12] it. I have been meeting with our
[5:39:14] graduates today and tomorrow
[5:39:16] I will be meeting with our ix
[5:39:17] graduates for their final
[5:39:18] check-ins
[5:39:20] and I met with three today and
[5:39:22] it was very emotional
[5:39:24] just to see
[5:39:24] the person who sat in front of
[5:39:27] me when I sold them on the on
[5:39:29] the program and screened them
[5:39:31] and told them hey you qualify
[5:39:33] you know do you want to take
[5:39:33] this opportunity versus who I
[5:39:36] see sitting in front of me. for
[5:39:37] example one of my participants
[5:39:39] my female participants came in
[5:39:41] and I had her on probation at
[5:39:43] compliance so she kind of
[5:39:44] followed me over. I knew her
[5:39:46] backstory. I knew there was
[5:39:49] noncompliance and what the
[5:39:50] issues were you know housing
[5:39:51] environment stuff like that she
[5:39:53] was in a bad environment
[5:39:57] now
[5:39:57] I met with her today and I was
[5:39:59] so happy just that that was my
[5:40:01] first checkin today and it was
[5:40:02] very emotional for many reasons.
[5:40:06] Within this program she has
[5:40:07] obtained her own housing. She
[5:40:09] has moved out from living with
[5:40:11] her family, which was the toxic
[5:40:12] environment and she was able to
[5:40:14] obtain housing on her own not
[5:40:17] just one apartment she found an
[5:40:18] apartment you know wasn't the
[5:40:20] right place for her, didn't work
[5:40:21] out for her finances and she
[5:40:23] found another apartment and just
[5:40:25] continued to motivate herself
[5:40:27] and following up on these
[5:40:28] applications and so she's where
[5:40:30] she needs to be in a good
[5:40:31] environment a nice neighborhood,
[5:40:33] safe house, she does have
[5:40:36] custody of one of her daughters
[5:40:37] and is working on regaining
[5:40:39] custody of the other daughter.
[5:40:41] She told me today that she is
[5:40:42] has the younger daughter who she
[5:40:44] does not have custody of.
[5:40:46] she's able to bring her over on
[5:40:47] the weekends and she's
[5:40:49] planning on keeping her for the
[5:40:51] fall break and just working up
[5:40:52] to eventually petitioning for
[5:40:54] custody again. so very proud of
[5:40:57] her but
[5:40:57] like I said to see the
[5:40:58] individual who sat in who sat in
[5:41:00] front of me this morning who
[5:41:01] sits who who sits in front of me
[5:41:03] you know big change, major
[5:41:05] life changes attitude and that's
[5:41:08] one thing I think we can all say
[5:41:10] we we don't like to be told hey
[5:41:13] you've got an attitude you know
[5:41:14] don't be like that but these are
[5:41:16] things we have to tell our
[5:41:18] participants because it's a it's
[5:41:19] a whole change you know full
[5:41:22] circle so and they get it they
[5:41:25] really do get it and I think
[5:41:26] that moral recognition the
[5:41:27] ra p y does help just to
[5:41:30] encourage accountability and
[5:41:32] that's one of the biggest things
[5:41:34] that helps them is just being
[5:41:35] able to say yes I did that. I'm
[5:41:38] sorry let's make amends and
[5:41:40] let's move on from it and that's
[5:41:42] what moral recognition therapy
[5:41:43] does a lot with their family as
[5:41:45] well so we're seeing
[5:41:46] relationships being rebuilt with
[5:41:48] the family with the kids you
[5:41:50] know and these are trust is lost
[5:41:52] you know so that's a hard thing
[5:41:53] to regain that trust with your
[5:41:55] family but also with your
[5:41:56] children and this participant
[5:41:58] did tell me this morning
[5:42:00] I had a moment of realization
[5:42:02] this weekend of course because
[5:42:04] there was the blackout you know
[5:42:05] we had no utilities for quite a
[5:42:07] while so she was sitting there
[5:42:08] and she said my girls had a
[5:42:10] little dance party in the living
[5:42:11] room. they brought out their
[5:42:12] glow sticks. they brought out
[5:42:13] their little lights they had the
[5:42:14] the phone going you know so they
[5:42:16] had a little dance party she
[5:42:17] goes and I took a step back
[5:42:20] and
[5:42:20] I just she goes it was just like
[5:42:22] one of those being in the moment
[5:42:24] moments where she was in her own
[5:42:26] place at her kitchen table. herr
[5:42:28] girls were here with her and
[5:42:30] they were safe and what got me
[5:42:32] what got me right in the heart
[5:42:33] was she said and my girls knew
[5:42:36] they were safe.
[5:42:38] intoxicated they didn't have to
[5:42:40] worry about mom and they weren't
[5:42:42] there taking care of each other
[5:42:44] because I was not in the right
[5:42:45] state of mind. Oh it it makes me
[5:42:47] emotional now but you know to
[5:42:49] hear her say that was like
[5:42:51] wow I have no other words for it
[5:42:54] than wow you know and I I just
[5:42:56] told her I wish I had all the
[5:42:58] words in the world to tell you
[5:43:00] how proud of you I am and one
[5:43:02] thing I do tell them is there's
[5:43:04] a lot life is hard we all know
[5:43:06] life is hard. This may be the
[5:43:08] hardest thing you've done in
[5:43:09] your life and if it is
[5:43:11] congratulations you did it
[5:43:13] You are doing it so don't ever
[5:43:15] doubt yourself and know that you
[5:43:17] can do hard things in life you
[5:43:18] know it's just about asking for
[5:43:20] help and finding the right
[5:43:22] people to support you and I
[5:43:24] think that's where our team
[5:43:25] comes in, our empathy and our
[5:43:28] compassion from the judge from
[5:43:30] myself, from our
[5:43:31] multidisciplinary team and most
[5:43:33] s most especially from our peers
[5:43:43] Well and again that was a big
[5:43:45] rundown but ok
[5:43:47] but I'm glad again that Danielle
[5:43:49] shared with us again our success
[5:43:51] in our program. We again
[5:43:53] treatment works
[5:43:54] if you listen if you believe you
[5:43:57] have empathy and compassion for
[5:43:59] your community right now again
[5:44:01] our
[5:44:01] participants were100% Native
[5:44:05] American. they're all DWI
[5:44:08] related
[5:44:09] everyone who's in our program
[5:44:11] again it's all related to DWI so
[5:44:13] again we're doing our best again
[5:44:16] and we have we have had two
[5:44:18] gentlemen who've asked me to
[5:44:20] throw them in jail put them in
[5:44:21] jail and I told him I'm not
[5:44:23] giving up on you I'm not gonna
[5:44:26] give you that leeway and I'm not
[5:44:27] gonna place you in custody
[5:44:28] you're gonna finish this program
[5:44:30] so what now the when she
[5:44:31] mentioned Mr Tyrone Castillo
[5:44:33] who's now our alumni
[5:44:34] coordinator. thanks me everyday
[5:44:37] almost every every time we have
[5:44:37] our
[5:44:38] our our session that he's very
[5:44:41] thankful because he's on the
[5:44:43] right path and he's becoming
[5:44:44] successful
[5:44:45] again and he was one of those
[5:44:48] gentleman again who I guess you
[5:44:50] would see out on the street who
[5:44:51] was like thuglike I guess you
[5:44:52] could say that he would have a
[5:44:53] thug life and a gangster but he
[5:44:58] phased out of it and now he's
[5:44:59] become a man and he's become a
[5:45:01] better man man for himself and
[5:45:03] his mother so
[5:45:04] that was a successful story for
[5:45:07] us again and his mom he she came
[5:45:10] to the graduation and she was
[5:45:12] very grateful to see her son
[5:45:14] again
[5:45:15] and she she shed some tears
[5:45:19] and very she was very emotional
[5:45:21] with who she saw and then of
[5:45:23] course we'd had an emotional
[5:45:24] other graduates who had their
[5:45:26] parents come through and again
[5:45:27] those stories are emotional as
[5:45:29] well so again treatment works
[5:45:32] but again you have to believe
[5:45:35] and again leadership have to
[5:45:36] believe as well
[5:45:39] people can change
[5:45:41] again and this is our community
[5:45:43] and we want to make our
[5:45:44] community better we want to heal
[5:45:47] our young kids that are walking
[5:45:49] the streets and again
[5:45:52] older older again older
[5:45:53] generation as well who
[5:45:55] experienced again childhood
[5:45:57] trauma again historical
[5:46:01] trauma and that's where we stand
[5:46:04] with this program and
[5:46:06] we're very thankful for what
[5:46:09] we've accomplished right now in
[5:46:10] this program and we're thankful
[5:46:11] for the support of you all again
[5:46:14] as leaderships as well and again
[5:46:16] we want to continue we want your
[5:46:18] continued support again from us
[5:46:21] that's all we're asking of
[5:46:22] course to give you updates and
[5:46:23] again your support that's about
[5:46:24] it so again we appreciate the
[5:46:26] invitation and I hope again you
[5:46:28] again you're satisfied with the
[5:46:30] update and we're again we're
[5:46:32] gonna continue to do our work
[5:46:33] we appreciate the invitation.
[5:46:35] thank you.
[5:46:37] thank you and question
[5:46:41] so our new member
[5:46:48] I think for our new members
[5:46:50] this has been something we've
[5:46:52] worked on with Judge Yazley
[5:46:55] to them coming forward with
[5:46:56] Chanel and just really hearing
[5:46:59] the program and how they
[5:47:01] developed it to really meet the
[5:47:03] needs of those that were I mean
[5:47:05] there's some restrictions on it
[5:47:07] because they knew like
[5:47:08] how far away will they
[5:47:12] that they weren't setting them
[5:47:14] up for failure and all those
[5:47:16] things
[5:47:19] mention it but it was really
[5:47:22] eye opening because some people
[5:47:24] think oh we just
[5:47:26] and I do have some questions
[5:47:27] that will lead us into certain
[5:47:30] things but very grateful for
[5:47:33] for that development and all
[5:47:34] those considerations given
[5:47:39] you said set them up for failure
[5:47:40] in some sense it was really
[5:47:42] about getting them through and
[5:47:44] really
[5:47:50] Through the programpresentative
[5:47:50] Garcia
[5:47:57] my question is in regards to
[5:47:59] your pamphlet says that you
[5:48:02] must be a resident of new
[5:48:03] McKinley County.
[5:48:07] and
[5:48:08] I'm not sure which court it was
[5:48:12] but
[5:48:12] this past week I got a notice
[5:48:16] from a young lady not wanting a
[5:48:18] letter stating that
[5:48:20] I guess the probation officer
[5:48:23] wanted
[5:48:24] a letter fromRaymond Apo chapter
[5:48:27] to allow them to come on to our
[5:48:30] community to visit the lady
[5:48:33] week on a weekly basis and maybe
[5:48:36] even two times a week and
[5:48:39] she said that the judge that
[5:48:42] made the made the order and
[5:48:45] gave it to the probation officer
[5:48:48] whatever communication that
[5:48:50] was made was not clearly
[5:48:53] explained to her except that
[5:48:56] you're not you are now on
[5:48:58] probation and therefore you will
[5:49:00] be coming in but since she lives
[5:49:03] inibla County they said
[5:49:05] the probation officer will be
[5:49:07] going out there to visit
[5:49:10] with her and
[5:49:11] she wanted to know if it was
[5:49:14] possible to have someone
[5:49:17] fromiblela County as a probation
[5:49:19] officer to come out because that
[5:49:20] would be closer for her or for
[5:49:23] her to go in and visit or for
[5:49:24] that person to come and visit
[5:49:26] her so that was a situation I
[5:49:28] came upon this past week and I
[5:49:30] did write a letter saying that
[5:49:31] it was ok for the probation
[5:49:34] officer to becoming and be
[5:49:36] visiting with her but beyond
[5:49:38] that that was the question that
[5:49:40] she had asked
[5:49:41] could you said
[5:49:44] the judge
[5:49:48] but she wants to transfer to
[5:49:49] McKinley County probably it's
[5:49:53] from McKinleyelunty judge
[5:49:53] and the probation officers in is
[5:49:57] in Mcinley County. Now she wants
[5:49:59] to know if she could have the
[5:50:00] probation officer fromiela
[5:50:02] County come out because that was
[5:50:03] closer.
[5:50:05] thank youpresentative Garcia
[5:50:08] again probation we don't
[5:50:11] controlled with probation again
[5:50:13] first of all we don't have
[5:50:14] jurisdiction inRama because
[5:50:15] again that's a Navajo nation and
[5:50:17] that's what we always address is
[5:50:21] the issue again again cross
[5:50:23] jurisdiction in order for us to
[5:50:26] cross over to the reservation we
[5:50:28] need to get an MOU from the
[5:50:31] nation so we're still working on
[5:50:33] again getting that approval from
[5:50:35] the nation but as for probation
[5:50:37] that's a probation question
[5:50:39] again for whoever that that
[5:50:41] individual would be would need
[5:50:42] to get approval from McKinley
[5:50:44] County probation.
[5:50:44] and from there they can work
[5:50:47] with one another to transfer to
[5:50:49] Sabula County but that's out of
[5:50:50] my again that's out of my hands
[5:50:52] that's probation
[5:50:53] as for your other question the
[5:50:56] order by a judge again I don't
[5:50:58] know who the judge is I don't
[5:51:00] yeah I don't do
[5:51:01] I I I know where I stand and I
[5:51:04] know I don't I don't try to
[5:51:05] cross those boundaries as well
[5:51:06] so I know where my jurisdiction
[5:51:08] lies and it's not on the
[5:51:11] reservation right now even
[5:51:12] though I live on the reservation
[5:51:14] so but with that being said
[5:51:17] and then your question regarding
[5:51:19] the pamphlet indicating
[5:51:21] McKinley County residents that's
[5:51:23] a typogain it's anyone who
[5:51:26] receives an infraction within
[5:51:28] McKinney County because we have
[5:51:29] individuals from arizona I
[5:51:31] think we have one
[5:51:32] that comes in from Arizona fort
[5:51:35] defiance to take part in our
[5:51:37] program. It's a 40 mile radius
[5:51:39] is what we're again who we
[5:51:42] try to get into our program
[5:51:44] because everyone outside the
[5:51:46] outskirts of40 miles we're
[5:51:48] setting them up for failure
[5:51:49] because we know transportation
[5:51:51] is an issue here in McKinley
[5:51:54] County because again the poverty
[5:51:55] rate again we we take that into
[5:51:57] consideration as well so we try
[5:52:00] to only take individuals who we
[5:52:02] think can
[5:52:02] complete the program and be s
[5:52:06] successful although we want to
[5:52:07] reach everybody out there it's
[5:52:10] kind of we don't want to set
[5:52:10] them up for failure where
[5:52:12] there's a lot of things we take
[5:52:13] into consideration in
[5:52:14] transportation is one of them
[5:52:16] and again there are other
[5:52:18] factors we also take into
[5:52:19] consideration they can't be they
[5:52:21] can't have violent offenses as
[5:52:23] well they can't have a felony
[5:52:24] and again we only address 2nd
[5:52:28] and 3rd offense DWIs so again
[5:52:29] thank you for that question
[5:52:30] madam Garcia.
[5:52:31] madam chairir thank you too
[5:52:36] for that answer we are about
[5:52:38] oh
[5:52:39] to the chapter it's about 60
[5:52:41] miles so I think we're outside
[5:52:44] of that 60 or40 mile but
[5:52:48] transportation would be an issue
[5:52:50] for her
[5:52:51] she was wonderering the streets
[5:52:53] over here and got caught for DWi
[5:52:56] and that that was the reason why
[5:52:58] she said that she had to get
[5:53:01] on probation with I don't know
[5:53:03] which court it was I didn't get
[5:53:05] all that information
[5:53:06] so all I did was write the
[5:53:09] letter to the probation officer.
[5:53:11] OK, thank you.
[5:53:12] thank youpresentative
[5:53:14] Representative Johnson.
[5:53:16] thank you madam chair
[5:53:18] my question is, I guess it would
[5:53:23] be depending
[5:53:26] participants or a number of
[5:53:28] workload, but what is the wait
[5:53:31] time or the service timeline
[5:53:33] for an individual to have
[5:53:38] outpatient treatment or
[5:53:40] treatment
[5:53:43] DWI
[5:53:48] After littleBI once they oh
[5:53:50] sorry madam chair or
[5:53:53] madampresentative Johnson thank
[5:53:54] you for that question the
[5:53:56] timeline again once we
[5:53:58] if they want to be a part of the
[5:54:01] DWI treatment program and
[5:54:02] referred to the because a lot of
[5:54:04] people want to avoid the
[5:54:05] thirtyday jail sentence or the40
[5:54:07] mandatory jail term so they want
[5:54:09] to stay out of jail they'll
[5:54:11] request a see if they can
[5:54:12] they're eligible for our our
[5:54:14] treatment program
[5:54:15] so what we do is right when
[5:54:19] we're about to sentence an
[5:54:20] individual or what when I'm
[5:54:21] about to sentence an individual
[5:54:22] I send them to Danielle she
[5:54:25] again assesses them she keeps
[5:54:27] completes their assessment
[5:54:29] oncece she knows that if there
[5:54:30] again once we know that they're
[5:54:31] eligible then I'll sentence them
[5:54:33] to the program and from there
[5:54:35] Danielle does the legwork and
[5:54:37] she'll tell you what she does
[5:54:38] after that go ahead Danielle
[5:54:39] thank you judgedge Ezzie so
[5:54:42] as Judge aszzie said
[5:54:43] they'll she'll contact me to
[5:54:47] do a what's called a screening
[5:54:48] I think with our current
[5:54:51] participants the majority of
[5:54:53] them were either there in person
[5:54:55] where it was convenient for me
[5:54:57] to just step out of my office
[5:54:58] and I screen them right, you
[5:55:00] know right then and there.
[5:55:01] and I was able to report back to
[5:55:03] the court immediately whether
[5:55:05] they were eligible or not. we
[5:55:08] use what is called the DY rant
[5:55:11] and I'm sorry I wish I wish I
[5:55:13] could tell you what those what
[5:55:14] those acronyms are for but the
[5:55:16] the screener is called the
[5:55:17] DUI rant and it gauges the level
[5:55:21] of risk as well as the need
[5:55:24] for treatment so what we call
[5:55:26] highris high need. Highri
[5:55:28] meaning they are at a high risk
[5:55:29] of reoffending. high need
[5:55:32] meaning that they have a
[5:55:33] moderate to severe substance use
[5:55:35] issue. Substance also including
[5:55:37] alcohol so as judge said I
[5:55:39] will screen them once they
[5:55:41] qualify I
[5:55:42] let the courts know and she
[5:55:44] proceeds with sentencing after
[5:55:46] they are sentenced, they come
[5:55:47] and see me immediately at
[5:55:49] which time I scheduled their
[5:55:51] induction into the program and
[5:55:53] they are also sent to our
[5:55:55] treatment
[5:55:56] treatment agency which was Santa
[5:55:59] Ferecovery at the time so they
[5:56:00] would be sent to Santa Fe
[5:56:01] recovery to schedule an intake
[5:56:03] with their treatment providers
[5:56:05] get all of their screenings and
[5:56:07] assessments done and it is
[5:56:09] within our contract with our
[5:56:10] treatment providers that are
[5:56:12] participants be expedited
[5:56:15] that their services be expedited
[5:56:16] so it is within the contract
[5:56:18] that from the date of referral
[5:56:20] with the treatment providers
[5:56:23] they have5 business days to get
[5:56:25] them assessed and get
[5:56:26] them into treatment so to answer
[5:56:29] your question it would be
[5:56:30] roughly a five business day
[5:56:32] wait. OK after induction. not
[5:56:34] after sentencing but after
[5:56:35] induction. yeah usually you know
[5:56:37] after sentencing but if you you
[5:56:38] count the weekends and whatnot.
[5:56:39] so we get them in right away
[5:56:41] and
[5:56:42] and the so we get them in
[5:56:45] with the treatment providers
[5:56:46] right away. they more than
[5:56:49] likely are also placed on an
[5:56:51] alcohol monitoring device so
[5:56:53] just to we we start that
[5:56:54] sobriety the day of you know so
[5:56:57] really encouraging but we
[5:56:58] also know that you know it's
[5:57:00] it's difficult. not all of our
[5:57:01] participants come in with
[5:57:03] complete sobriety. some of them
[5:57:05] have stopped drinking after the
[5:57:07] incident after their arrest and
[5:57:09] just waiting to go to
[5:57:10] sentencing it is part of their
[5:57:11] conditions of release as well to
[5:57:13] not
[5:57:13] to abstain from alcohol. So
[5:57:15] some of them do come in with
[5:57:16] some sobriety. and there's
[5:57:18] also others that come in and
[5:57:21] it's day one of sobriety for
[5:57:22] them so we are we're working
[5:57:24] from you know from the bottom
[5:57:26] and working up and just
[5:57:27] encouraging them to to maintain
[5:57:30] that sobriety for the first
[5:57:31] couple of days for the first
[5:57:32] couple of weeks you know and
[5:57:33] then so forth but yes it it's a
[5:57:35] very short wait for our
[5:57:37] treatment intake.
[5:57:46] the five days who said that
[5:57:50] to say this is you got to do
[5:57:54] this within5 days it's on the
[5:57:56] within the contract yeah within
[5:57:58] our contract they have to get
[5:58:00] into treatment and then from
[5:58:02] there yes just as as again
[5:58:03] Mleaketty mentioned it's
[5:58:04] difficult some some of them is
[5:58:06] day one but with the scram
[5:58:08] bracelet we continue to monitor
[5:58:09] them and we know return to use
[5:58:12] is gonna be again it's gonna be
[5:58:14] a continued issue until they
[5:58:17] have to be in sobriety for 90
[5:58:19] days for them to face to the
[5:58:20] next phase so if they
[5:58:22] continue to use again I have
[5:58:24] again just like I said the
[5:58:25] gentleman I've had two gentlemen
[5:58:26] who again
[5:58:27] continue to use weekly weekly
[5:58:30] and again we kept addressing
[5:58:32] them addressing them finally I
[5:58:35] don't know I don't know if they
[5:58:36] had an epiphany but again they
[5:58:39] came back on the right track
[5:58:40] again and we have another
[5:58:42] individual who's like Mr
[5:58:43] Castillo who was fighting the
[5:58:45] court constantly intoxicated
[5:58:48] coming to court and we tell them
[5:58:49] no you need to leave that's a
[5:58:51] trigger for our participants we
[5:58:52] cannot have you here so we
[5:58:54] again make him leave our session
[5:58:57] but we bring him back to address
[5:59:00] him tell him this is not going
[5:59:02] to be a continued issue. We
[5:59:04] increase his treatment again we
[5:59:06] sent him back for a reassessment
[5:59:07] what is going on what trauma,
[5:59:09] what is why are you continuing
[5:59:10] to reuse return to use so
[5:59:13] we finally got it situated. He's
[5:59:17] on the right track. he's going
[5:59:19] back to school
[5:59:21] and he knows what
[5:59:24] So the device what did you call
[5:59:27] it a scram bracelet scram
[5:59:28] bracelet? It detects alcohol
[5:59:30] through their skin
[5:59:31] yeah
[5:59:32] how much does that cost
[5:59:35] for a device that is in the it's
[5:59:39] in the for a device maybe it's
[5:59:42] pretty expensive it's about it
[5:59:44] depends on how many we have
[5:59:47] monitored but I I would like
[5:59:50] to say ballpark anywhere
[5:59:54] from1000 to1,500 you know per
[5:59:55] month. So I am exploring other
[5:59:57] options we've been to some
[5:59:58] conferences recently where they
[6:00:00] are actually that technology is
[6:00:02] advancing as well we have
[6:00:04] well some companies have
[6:00:06] GPS trackers and alcohol
[6:00:08] monitors that are about the size
[6:00:10] of the Apple watches or like the
[6:00:12] android watches so very much
[6:00:14] more convenient rather than a
[6:00:16] big device probably as as big as
[6:00:18] my phone you know strapped to
[6:00:20] your leg so the scram bracelet
[6:00:22] it as judge said it detects
[6:00:24] alcohol by taking a sample of
[6:00:27] your pores from the sweat from
[6:00:28] your pores so there's a screen
[6:00:29] on the device that has to stay
[6:00:31] in close contact with the skin
[6:00:33] and then we also have to be
[6:00:34] mindful and tell our
[6:00:35] participants
[6:00:36] don't be using any products
[6:00:39] that contain alcohol and that
[6:00:40] could be cologne and body spray.
[6:00:43] so they start to learn you know
[6:00:44] all the different stuff that we
[6:00:47] use everyday that contains
[6:00:48] alcohol and it's a it's a it's
[6:00:50] an eye opener but to answer your
[6:00:52] other question as far as that
[6:00:53] requirement of the five days, I
[6:00:55] believe that comes from the New
[6:00:56] Mexicoreatment court standards.
[6:01:07] making them wait I again I do
[6:01:09] want to mention we do we did
[6:01:12] have a delay for one of our
[6:01:13] veterans again we had two
[6:01:14] veterans one graduated again he
[6:01:17] successfully working again
[6:01:20] but we have one veteran again
[6:01:21] who who does have PTI
[6:01:24] again working with him was a
[6:01:28] challenge but again we also
[6:01:32] kept them in the program we he's
[6:01:35] actually being successful right
[6:01:36] now and he's being compliant
[6:01:38] from the beginning he was again
[6:01:40] returning to use and we sent him
[6:01:43] to treatment we held them in
[6:01:45] custody and we're waiting for
[6:01:47] veterans to get back to us the
[6:01:49] veterans program the VSo via the
[6:01:50] BA
[6:01:54] Danielle can share that with
[6:01:57] you but again I would yeah it
[6:02:00] would his his case was time
[6:02:00] consuming only because we were
[6:02:02] waiting for
[6:02:02] the VO to get him into get
[6:02:07] screened and find out if he can
[6:02:10] take part in that treatment that
[6:02:12] was the issue that we were
[6:02:13] having so since then we've kind
[6:02:16] of shied away from that and
[6:02:18] we're kind of just utilizing our
[6:02:19] own treatment provider but we
[6:02:21] were trying to do what was best
[6:02:23] for him
[6:02:24] again and trying to send him
[6:02:25] send him back to the VA to get
[6:02:27] that treatment so he stays
[6:02:28] within the program and they
[6:02:30] report to us but again I'll let
[6:02:32] Danielle share that that that
[6:02:33] information with you
[6:02:36] thank you Judgeyzzie. Yes, so we
[6:02:38] do have as Joelzy said we've
[6:02:41] had two veteran participants one
[6:02:43] previously and one current.
[6:02:45] this current veteran I've worked
[6:02:47] with since compliance and again
[6:02:49] he kind of followed me over so
[6:02:50] I've seen him make tremendous
[6:02:53] progress from an individual that
[6:02:55] was very reserved very you
[6:02:58] know not easily trusting of
[6:03:01] everybody which is completely
[6:03:02] understandable but very very
[6:03:03] respectful, very very compliant.
[6:03:06] this individual does have a lot
[6:03:07] of trauma. we did get in
[6:03:09] contact with veterans justice
[6:03:11] outreach which is the VJO they
[6:03:14] are the outreach component of
[6:03:16] the veterans veteran system
[6:03:19] to help justice involved
[6:03:21] individuals. So making that
[6:03:23] connection with the VJO also
[6:03:25] opened up doors for compliance,
[6:03:26] the compliance program as well
[6:03:28] to know that these are resources
[6:03:30] available for their clients as
[6:03:32] well that are just on regular
[6:03:33] misdemeanor probation. so our
[6:03:34] partic
[6:03:36] ip ant did receive services
[6:03:38] after a while with the veterans
[6:03:39] with with the veterans clinic
[6:03:42] and was receiving individual
[6:03:45] services as well as group
[6:03:47] services however they were
[6:03:49] virtual and we didn't really
[6:03:51] feel that it was working
[6:03:52] virtually. so we were able to
[6:03:54] get him in with We song and
[6:03:56] their clinical supervisor is
[6:03:58] actually works with the
[6:04:01] eterans department. I'm not sure
[6:04:03] if he is a veteran himself. I I
[6:04:05] believe he is
[6:04:06] so that's that's helpful as
[6:04:08] well. He also works with the VA
[6:04:10] here in Gallup. so the VA is
[6:04:12] very tricky to work with. they
[6:04:14] will not talk to me. they will
[6:04:16] not contact mething is through
[6:04:17] the veteran so the veteran has
[6:04:19] to be very accountable if I need
[6:04:21] progress reports, I will have to
[6:04:22] ask the veteran will you
[6:04:24] contact your provider and get a
[6:04:25] letter of your updates or your
[6:04:27] status right now so he's he's
[6:04:29] very compliant so he'll be able
[6:04:31] to do that so this individual
[6:04:33] is receiving services at Winsong
[6:04:36] working with their veteran
[6:04:39] clinical supervisor and he is
[6:04:41] still also involved with the
[6:04:43] veterans clinic out in
[6:04:44] Albuquerque. He still meets with
[6:04:46] his provider there and then
[6:04:48] attends what's called a relapse
[6:04:50] prevention group weekly. So he
[6:04:52] keeps himself busy and
[6:04:54] we also keep in contact with the
[6:04:57] VA as well just you know making
[6:04:58] sure that everybody is all on
[6:05:00] the same page as far as his
[6:05:01] progress in any updates that we
[6:05:03] need.
[6:05:05] but that's that's our
[6:05:06] relationship working
[6:05:07] relationship with the veterans
[6:05:09] department as well and their
[6:05:11] veteran justice outreach
[6:05:14] but yes that that is and then
[6:05:17] just don't like I said opening
[6:05:18] up those doors what resources we
[6:05:19] can get from the VJO and from
[6:05:21] the veterans department. I
[6:05:23] also share with compliance and
[6:05:24] we've got a little what I call
[6:05:26] resource board up there in the
[6:05:27] courthouse that has
[6:05:28] information such as
[6:05:30] contact information for the
[6:05:33] VJO any kind of treatment
[6:05:36] services recovery support groups
[6:05:38] whatever kind of resources I
[6:05:40] can put up there for people that
[6:05:41] are post adjudication
[6:05:44] preadjudication whatever helps I
[6:05:45] put it up there. The more
[6:05:46] resources I can get out there
[6:05:48] the better.
[6:05:49] thank you and that with the
[6:05:52] benefits because we don't have
[6:05:57] No, there is no veterans court
[6:06:01] currently.
[6:06:04] so one of the things too I've
[6:06:05] been not combined need to
[6:06:07] explore is the
[6:06:15] but I think it seemed to be a
[6:06:17] lot more efficient as far as
[6:06:20] making sure there was not
[6:06:21] duplicate services and that you
[6:06:23] did not have to
[6:06:24] post it on your board but that
[6:06:27] you put a referral out and then
[6:06:30] whoever can meet the needs if
[6:06:32] it's something that needs to be
[6:06:33] immediate or something specific
[6:06:35] or if it's a veteran that it
[6:06:38] that's where it goes and they're
[6:06:40] able to with that those
[6:06:42] resources they're they're
[6:06:44] contracted with us and they we
[6:06:46] become the in some sense more
[6:06:47] accountable to doing what they
[6:06:49] need to do
[6:06:53] don't know how I'm gonna move
[6:06:53] that forwardda because it's we
[6:06:56] got a lot going on here in New
[6:06:57] Mexico
[6:07:00] and I think that's the only
[6:07:01] thing I think that's probably is
[6:07:03] that the only
[6:07:04] in a way barrier or something
[6:07:06] that needs to be worked on is
[6:07:08] with our veter
[6:07:17] we're sorry I believe I believe
[6:07:18] that was the only issue we had
[6:07:20] again was getting our vet our
[6:07:21] veteran into treatment again
[6:07:24] services from BBJO or VSO
[6:07:28] other than that again like I
[6:07:29] said it was frustrating from the
[6:07:31] beginning for him because again
[6:07:32] I didn't want to keep him in
[6:07:33] custody as well and we we kept
[6:07:36] them in there for almost an
[6:07:37] entire month just before he was
[6:07:39] able to obtain some type of
[6:07:41] service and before we were able
[6:07:42] to release him
[6:07:44] but in the end again he's
[6:07:46] doing very well and he's
[6:07:47] compliant like she said she he's
[6:07:49] very respectful and
[6:07:51] and of course the warden he
[6:07:53] really respects the warden
[6:07:54] because he's also a veteran as
[6:07:56] well so our warden again was our
[6:07:58] our program manager as well at
[6:08:00] one point for McKinley County so
[6:08:02] he knows the the the
[6:08:04] participants so he can again
[6:08:08] I guess encourage and mentor
[6:08:11] again the participant as well so
[6:08:11] it it's it's it's it's it was
[6:08:12] it worked out for the best
[6:08:17] because again the warden was
[6:08:19] able to speak with our
[6:08:19] participant and again that's how
[6:08:22] he was able to maintain again as
[6:08:24] well any traumas or any yeah
[6:08:28] whatever
[6:08:28] disorder he was going through
[6:08:31] and don't I don't know how to
[6:08:32] say it but yeah but yeah but in
[6:08:36] the end
[6:08:37] I don't believe we we don't we
[6:08:40] haven't stumbled upon any any
[6:08:41] barriers at this moment again of
[6:08:44] course just the same issues
[6:08:45] housing transportation for
[6:08:48] our participants other than that
[6:08:50] again just the same resources
[6:08:51] that everybody else is having to
[6:08:53] deal with where we're still
[6:08:56] hinders our program but in the
[6:08:58] end again I'm just thankful
[6:09:00] again our DA it's now all for
[6:09:02] treatment as well
[6:09:04] again so again he's sending
[6:09:07] again anyone who's again being
[6:09:10] arrested for possession a
[6:09:12] controlled substance into
[6:09:13] treatment again that's a again
[6:09:13] that's again beenn
[6:09:16] very successful at some again in
[6:09:17] some
[6:09:20] at some point but again at the
[6:09:24] same time you know that they
[6:09:25] don't want to go into treatment
[6:09:26] as well so it's it's kind of hit
[6:09:28] or miss but um'm umjo Burnetts
[6:09:33] and Mr Friedley again they've
[6:09:34] been sending a lot of their per
[6:09:36] our defendants into treatment as
[6:09:38] well for anyone who was
[6:09:39] charged with possession have any
[6:09:42] type of substance and any the
[6:09:44] diversion programs they're still
[6:09:46] trying to work on it too and I'm
[6:09:47] very grateful for that and I'm
[6:09:49] hoping we continue to move in
[6:09:50] that direction
[6:09:54] you're funding's good because I
[6:09:54] know we pump a lot of money into
[6:09:56] the IOc this past and trying to
[6:09:58] get de dedicated funding for
[6:10:03] thank you for the work you do
[6:10:04] but I do I think on a side
[6:10:14] treatment providers after the
[6:10:15] they they don't have to
[6:10:22] our treatment providers are are
[6:10:23] certified yes they're clinicians
[6:10:26] so our our like I said our
[6:10:28] clinical supervisor I believe is
[6:10:31] in LMSW I believe licensed
[6:10:32] mental social worker
[6:10:50] that deat sobriety was necessary
[6:10:52] as far as just
[6:10:58] to mentor in that sense then I
[6:10:59] also like to
[6:11:08] sentencing to programs like this
[6:11:09] I think that's a very
[6:11:10] different kind of as far as
[6:11:20] indigenous people but thank you
[6:11:21] thank you for the work you
[6:11:24] Welcome aboard and
[6:11:29] and learned a lot is what I
[6:11:30] understand and hopefully expand
[6:11:30] it
[6:11:36] we are looking into expanding
[6:11:38] again we're looking at again
[6:11:40] just as she mentioned the
[6:11:42] holistic approach to healing to
[6:11:44] wellness portion of it because
[6:11:46] again apparently we don't we're
[6:11:48] no longer a DWI program we're
[6:11:49] now going to be transitioning to
[6:11:51] healing and wellness so again
[6:11:54] working with Ken and joanener
[6:11:56] again utilizing the culture and
[6:11:58] the traditions for the native
[6:12:00] Americans who again want to find
[6:12:01] their way back to our culture
[6:12:02] again is positive so
[6:12:04] but that being said thank you
[6:12:07] again madam chair committee
[6:12:09] members and and leadership thank
[6:12:11] you for inviting us thank you
[6:12:13] for honoring us judge and thank
[6:12:14] you for your work and I just
[6:12:16] want to mention again that
[6:12:17] lunch was provided by
[6:12:20] Johnson and Twin Lake's chapter
[6:12:26] morning and also to the chamber
[6:12:29] for donutts so and thank you for
[6:12:31] hosting us thank you for some of
[6:12:33] you guys in the audience joining
[6:12:34] us all day and our community
[6:12:37] here in Gallup
[6:12:42] where we are but in a good way
[6:12:45] so yeah we will only go into
[6:12:48] recessor we are due to be in
[6:12:50] Akima at10 a.m. so
[6:12:52] the let's see
[6:12:55] skycity
[6:13:01] so that is next to skycity down
[6:13:04] below right yeah
[6:13:12] No it's not that's why I'm
[6:13:14] saying you yeah it's not at the
[6:13:16] hotel yeah
[6:13:20] so we will make our way that
[6:13:22] day I think some of you are
[6:13:23] staying at the hotel be very
[6:13:24] careful and I don't think
[6:13:25] there's constructions' going
[6:13:27] eastbound I think most of that's
[6:13:28] all coming westbound and as soon
[6:13:30] as the highways then you'd
[6:13:31] probably be real happy
[6:13:35] thank you again thank you to the
[6:13:37] chamber