[0:29] going to call the [14:59] Commission on School [15:10] vice chair. And then [15:11] we'll get to, I think, [15:12] a round of [15:13] introductions after [15:14] the election. And so [15:17] with that, is there a [15:18] motion for the chair? [15:30] >> All right. Is [15:31] there a motion and a [15:33] second. Any further [15:35] nominations and all [15:50] And I've done my part [15:51] today. Thank you. [15:53] >> Thank you, Mr. [15:54] Chair. I appreciate [15:55] it. Now we are going [15:57] to. The floor is open [15:58] for nominations for [16:10] Although it's a [16:11] little different. [16:12] That has a a non [16:15] senator. But I think [16:16] the Senate did so [16:17] much work on this [16:18] over the last four [16:30] attendance. So [16:31] appreciate that [16:32] Senator. So there's a [16:34] motion with a second [16:35] to elect Delegate [16:39] Simons as the vice [16:39] chair. All those in [16:50] left to right and [16:51] then down front for [16:53] introduction. So [16:54] we'll start with [16:55] delegate commerce. [16:55] Fowler. [16:57] >> Thank you, Mr. [16:58] Chair. I'm Delegate [17:10] Herring. I represent [17:11] the fourth House [17:13] district, which is [17:13] West Alexandria City [17:14] in the Bailey's [17:15] Crossroads of area of [17:18] Fairfax County. I [17:19] also serve as the [17:30] Beach and eastern [17:31] Norfolk. [17:32] >> I'm Jeremy McPike, [17:34] representing the 29th [17:35] Senate District, [17:36] Quantico, Dale city, [17:39] Dumfries. Nokesville. [17:49] Newport News. [17:51] >> Good afternoon. [17:52] Delegate Chris Runyon [17:53] and I represent [17:54] Highland and Bath, [17:55] the two of the [17:56] smallest school [17:57] districts in the [17:59] Commonwealth, as well [18:08] >> Mr. Robertson. [18:11] >> Mr. Robertson. [18:13] >> Mr. Robertson, can [18:14] you please use the [18:16] mic button on the [18:17] right side? Gray. [18:29] retired as chair and [18:31] president of Moseley [18:32] Architects, and now [18:34] I'm a senior advisor [18:35] with McGuire Woods [18:37] Consulting and the [18:38] chair of the Virginia [18:50] is Banshee and I'm [18:51] the director of [18:52] Department of General [18:53] Services. [18:58] >> Thank you, Mr. [18:59] Chair. Christina Bird, [18:59] chief operations [19:10] I'm the state [19:11] treasurer. I've been [19:12] serving in that [19:13] capacity since 2022. [19:14] Before that, I was a [19:15] partner at McGuire [19:16] Woods Law Firm. So [19:17] there's a theme here. [19:29] D young. I'm on a [19:32] planning commission [19:32] in Caroline County [19:33] for the district, as [19:34] well as the chairman [19:36] for the Vdot [19:37] Committee in Caroline. [19:50] next we are moving to [19:52] bullet two, where the [19:53] adoption of [19:55] electronic meeting [19:55] policy. And I'll turn [19:56] it over to Attorney [20:10] the Commission. The [20:12] last time this [20:13] Commission met, it [20:15] operated under an [20:17] electronic meeting [20:18] policy. So I have a [20:19] copy of that same [20:29] point during this [20:31] interim, or an [20:33] individual would like [20:34] to participate [20:35] virtually, that you [20:37] have a written policy [20:38] on file. So again, [20:50] policy. But if you do [20:51] want to permit [20:54] virtual participation [20:55] either as a whole or [20:57] individually, you [20:58] would need to adopt a [21:10] current policy? [21:13] Seeing none, we are [21:15] going to vote to [21:16] accept the current [21:17] policy. [21:17] >> Move to adopt the [21:18] policy. Second. [21:19] >> There's been a [21:29] adopted by roll call. [21:32] >> Roll call, vote in [21:34] clerk to open roll. [21:36] >> Sure. Delegate [21:37] Simons. Yes. Delegate. [21:40] Askew. [21:40] >> Yes. [21:49] McPike. Yes. Senator. [21:51] Fevola. Let's see. [21:53] Doctor Robertson. [21:54] >> Yes. [21:56] >> Doctor. Cotton. [21:57] Mr. Young. [22:10] >> Miss. Gandhi. Yes. [22:12] And Mr. Crumlish. [22:14] >> Yes. [22:16] >> It's unanimous, [22:17] Mr. Chair. [22:30] history of the [22:31] Commission. [22:33] >> Yeah, thank you, [22:34] Mr. Chairman. Members [22:35] of the commission [22:36] thought it would be a [22:37] good idea again, [22:38] since you all haven't [22:48] in its history. So [22:51] first, Mr. Chairman, [22:53] quickly, you have [22:54] eight statutory [22:55] duties. First, five [22:56] have have existed [22:57] since inception. [23:10] modernization and [23:11] construction, [23:12] creating standardized [23:13] construction designs [23:14] and procurement [23:15] practices, and [23:17] identifying potential [23:18] cost saving measures [23:19] that school divisions [23:30] tasked with updating [23:32] annually the [23:33] statewide needs [23:33] assessment and [23:35] developing and [23:35] delivering a ten year [23:36] capital roadmap, [23:38] taking into [23:39] consideration [23:50] space now, by [23:51] collaborating with [23:52] the early childhood [23:53] ready regions and the [23:55] community colleges in [23:55] the Commonwealth to [23:58] look at facility [24:10] not currently being [24:12] utilized. And finally, [24:14] you're you're [24:14] required to submit an [24:16] annual report. So the [24:18] executive and [24:19] legislature knows [24:30] six year charter in [24:32] 2020, just this past [24:34] year, again per year [24:35] bill. Mr. chairman, [24:36] that expiration date [24:37] was removed. So this [24:39] commission is now a [24:50] primarily on [24:52] understanding the [24:53] history of school [24:54] construction funding, [24:55] what the current [24:56] resources are for [24:59] constructing and [25:10] The commission [25:13] received input, [25:14] guidance and data [25:15] from various partners, [25:18] including school [25:18] boards, local [25:30] and the Board and [25:31] Department of [25:32] Education. So I've [25:36] included a bunch of [25:37] reading material for [25:38] you in your in your [25:49] over that two year [25:51] period. Also in your [25:54] folders. And one [25:55] thing I particularly [25:57] recommend that you [26:10] information in there [26:11] that that, that [26:12] publication was, was [26:15] key in this [26:16] commission's work and [26:18] recommendations and [26:18] those two interims [26:29] over 50 years old at [26:31] that time, according [26:33] to a school board [26:34] survey that they [26:35] conducted, would be [26:37] approximately $24.8 [26:50] action in the ensuing [26:52] legislative sessions, [26:53] both legislative and [26:56] budgetary. So I'm [26:57] just going to run [26:58] through those [27:10] recommended. And the [27:11] General Assembly [27:13] passed a law that [27:14] made several changes [27:15] to the Literary Fund [27:17] loan process for to [27:19] use to construct or [27:30] excuse me, open [27:31] application process, [27:32] an increased the [27:34] maximum loan amount [27:35] from 7.5 to 25 [27:38] million. It also [27:50] small school [27:51] divisions, to cap [27:53] those at 2% and then [27:55] indexed interest [27:56] rates to a market [27:57] rate as well. And [27:59] finally, it permitted [28:10] recommended, and the [28:12] General Assembly [28:13] passed a law to [28:15] establish the School [28:16] Construction [28:16] Assistance Program [28:17] and fund the purpose [28:19] purpose of which is [28:29] school buildings. And [28:33] that same bill also [28:34] required any revenues [28:36] remaining in the [28:37] Casino Gaming [28:39] Proceeds Fund. After [28:50] in assistance to to [28:52] school boards for [28:55] school construction. [29:10] school boards. This [29:12] requires dough and [29:14] consultation with DGS [29:16] and using DGS [29:18] existing Mr. Fix tool [29:19] as a template to [29:29] school division, and [29:31] the amount of [29:32] maintenance reserve [29:32] funds that are [29:33] necessary to restore [29:36] those buildings. I [29:49] go too deep into [29:51] those, but those were [29:53] those were [29:54] established in 2022. [30:10] this would permit [30:11] school boards, with [30:12] the concurrence of [30:13] the local governing [30:14] body, to establish a [30:17] capital reserve fund [30:18] as a as a sort of a [30:30] expenditures, subject [30:31] to conditions like [30:35] designating the [30:36] specific project to [30:36] be funded at the time [30:50] finally, this past [30:51] June as a part of the [30:52] final budget [30:54] negotiation process [30:56] this summer, you now [30:58] have a provision of [30:59] law that this [31:09] renovation. This, as [31:11] you know, started [31:12] with one school [31:13] division. It was [31:14] expanded to ten over [31:16] time, and now it's an [31:18] option for all all [31:29] won't go into too [31:31] much detail, but that [31:34] was just this past [31:36] special session that [31:49] the General Assembly [31:51] made some pretty [31:52] major investments in [31:53] school construction [31:54] over the past three [31:56] biennium. I included [31:59] a one pager in your [32:10] grants in the past [32:11] six years and a [32:14] little under half a [32:15] billion in loans for [32:17] a total investment of [32:30] guess I'll just close [32:32] Mister, Mister [32:32] Chairman, by saying [32:34] that that's a lot of [32:36] information. But, you [32:37] know, we now that [32:38] this commission is [32:50] appreciate it. Are [32:51] there any questions [32:52] for Mr. Brimmer in. [32:55] Please use your. [32:56] There's a yellow [32:58] button on the bottom [32:59] right underneath the [33:10] Thank you so much. [33:11] And we'll move ahead. [33:15] And as Ryan stated, [33:17] he did invite [33:29] thank you so much. [33:36] >> Thank you, Mr. [33:37] Chair. Members of the [33:38] Commission today, I [33:40] have prepared for you [33:50] has adopted [33:51] initiatives for the [33:51] Virginia Department [33:52] of Education to [33:53] tackle. So here are [33:56] several projects that [33:57] we have been working [33:58] on. And what I will [33:59] go through. I will [34:10] region and where each [34:11] school division rests [34:12] within the [34:13] Commonwealth and what [34:14] region they reside in. [34:15] There are 131 school [34:17] divisions across the [34:30] is a data collection [34:31] that began in 2023. [34:34] The Code of Virginia [34:35] requires the Virginia [34:35] Department of [34:36] Education to [34:37] collaborate with the [34:38] Department of General [34:39] Services and use [34:50] allows Vdoe to have a [34:52] central repository of [34:54] data of state owned [34:55] buildings and systems, [34:57] data on the school [34:58] buildings and school [35:00] sites is collected [35:10] data collection needs [35:11] in partnership with [35:13] DGS, as required [35:15] through Senate Bill [35:17] 498 and House Bill [35:19] 554. Vdoe utilized [35:30] required, and a full [35:31] listing of the [35:32] inventory, school [35:33] buildings and [35:33] instructional [35:34] facilities is located [35:36] on Vdoe website. This [35:38] report is also [35:39] derived from [35:50] have that available [35:51] for your review. [35:53] Taking a look at that [35:54] data, this slide [35:56] shows the number of [35:56] Virginia school [35:57] buildings by type. [36:10] 16.4% of the school [36:11] facilities are middle [36:12] schools, and 15.2% of [36:15] facilities are high [36:16] schools. The [36:17] remaining facilities [36:17] are academic support [36:19] buildings such as [36:30] More than half of all [36:31] schools and academic [36:32] support buildings in [36:33] the state are greater [36:34] than 50 years old. [36:37] 24.2% are between 26 [36:50] provides a snapshot [36:51] of the instructions [36:52] that are used to [36:53] interpret system [36:54] replacement, [36:55] replacement index or [36:57] SRI data and the [36:58] relative age are a [37:10] system. Sri is [37:12] expressed by a [37:13] percentage of the [37:13] expected life of all [37:15] systems, building and [37:16] site that have been [37:18] consumed. A 100% [37:29] systems are brand new, [37:31] a higher value [37:33] indicates that the [37:34] building and sites [37:35] are in need of system [37:36] upgrade or [37:37] replacement. Relative [37:38] age is not a calendar [37:49] index times life span [37:51] the lifespan assumed [37:52] is 50 years. A [37:54] building renovation [37:56] will decrease the [37:57] relative age, and a [37:58] newly constructed [38:10] Public Schools by [38:11] superintendents [38:12] region. Based on the [38:13] most recent Mr. Fix [38:14] reporting, this chart [38:16] provides data based [38:17] on the building and [38:19] site. The relative [38:30] assumption that it [38:31] has a useful life [38:32] equating to 50 years. [38:34] This demonstration is [38:35] that 8.8 years of [38:37] useful life remains [38:37] for both site and [38:39] buildings. In [38:41] two. [38:51] >> Before you move on [38:52] to security. So when [38:53] you talk about [38:55] systems, I'm assuming [38:56] Hvac roofs, what [38:59] other systems would [39:08] a city. Well, it [39:11] could be any of those [39:12] things. We have a [39:13] variety. [39:13] >> What about [39:14] technology? [39:15] >> No, that would not [39:17] be generally that is [39:29] >> So I know in my [39:33] home school district [39:34] of Newport News [39:35] Public Schools, a lot [39:36] of the 1950s [39:38] buildings were not [39:50] Would it also take [39:51] into account when a [39:53] building is just not [39:54] well designed and it [39:55] needs to be renovated [39:56] so the front office [39:57] can see the front [39:58] door or not really. [40:09] that would be part of [40:11] a renovation. But we [40:13] do have schools that [40:14] have not gone through [40:16] those security [40:18] enhancements. [40:19] >> So it would not be [40:29] equipment grant. The [40:33] school security [40:34] equipment grant began [40:34] in 2013 through the [40:36] General Assembly [40:37] session with the [40:38] creation of a [40:39] competitive grant [40:39] program for school [40:50] million is annually [40:51] awarded to enhance [40:52] security and help [40:53] protect students, [40:54] faculty, staff and [40:56] visitors. Each school [40:57] division is awarded [40:59] the. Each school [41:10] program. Since its [41:11] inception in 2013, [41:14] $126 million has been [41:15] awarded to school [41:16] divisions and [41:16] regional programs. [41:19] There are ten grant [41:30] Total. There is a [41:32] list of eligible [41:33] equipment located on [41:34] the website. In the [41:36] current grant year, [41:37] applications were [41:38] received from seven [41:39] regional centers. The [41:50] provided to 399 [41:52] qualifying schools [41:52] and 91 school [41:54] divisions. This slide [41:58] demonstrates the most [41:59] purchased eligible [42:10] hardware cameras, two [42:11] way radios for staff, [42:13] and metal or firearm [42:15] detection systems at [42:16] our school building [42:17] entrances. The use of [42:30] school busses and [42:32] passenger tracking, [42:33] as well as passenger [42:34] ID card readers on [42:36] school busses. The [42:39] next program that I [42:50] During the 2026 [42:52] General Assembly [42:53] session, an [42:53] investment of $519 [42:56] million has been made [42:57] for 2027 and 2028. [43:09] grants. This slide [43:11] provides you with a [43:11] snapshot of the [43:12] awards that have [43:13] occurred since the [43:14] inception of the [43:15] program in fiscal [43:16] year 2022 through [43:17] last fiscal year of [43:30] guidelines and [43:31] criteria that were [43:32] approved by the Board [43:33] of Education. Several [43:34] of those criteria [43:36] include local [43:36] governing body [43:37] commitment to a [43:39] project, inclusion in [43:39] the Capital [43:49] contributes ten, 20 [43:51] or 30% of a of a [43:52] project cost based on [43:54] the school division's [43:55] local composite index, [43:57] with the local [43:58] locality contributing [43:59] the balance of the [44:10] projects from 2022 [44:11] include new schools [44:13] resulting from school [44:15] consolidation or [44:16] increased enrollment, [44:17] extensive school [44:19] renovations, [44:30] safety and security, [44:32] structural [44:33] improvements. Picture [44:36] is worth a thousand [44:37] words to highlight a [44:38] few of the projects [44:39] that have been funded [44:49] County. It is a 203 [44:53] 200,332 square foot [44:54] school building on a [44:55] 50 acre site, which [44:56] has 1032 school [44:58] student capacity. It [45:10] small high schools [45:11] and consolidate them [45:12] into one school, [45:13] providing an [45:14] opportunity for more [45:15] programs that support [45:16] modern education. [45:17] This school has a [45:18] special CTE center [45:30] Elementary school, [45:31] Arnett Hill in [45:32] Danville. It was the [45:33] first new school in [45:35] 35 years. It was [45:36] built on the same [45:37] site as the old [45:38] school. Danville [45:40] sixth Grade Academy [45:50] was a project that [45:51] added six new [45:52] classrooms to meet [45:53] and enhance learning [45:54] opportunities for [45:55] students in Dickenson [45:56] County. One [46:10] of Education. We were [46:12] awarded $5 million [46:13] through a competitive [46:14] grant process. This [46:16] grant ends in [46:17] November of 2028. The [46:30] state and local [46:31] resources to improve [46:31] public school [46:32] facilities to ensure [46:33] safe, healthy, [46:35] sustainable and [46:36] quality learning [46:37] environments. High [46:38] needs schools were [46:39] determined through a [46:50] to determine if a [46:51] school can offer free [46:52] or reduced lunch to [46:53] students through [46:55] Community Eligibility [46:56] Program. Under the [46:58] sassy grant, the [46:59] Department of [47:00] Education is actively [47:10] anticipated to be [47:11] completed in February [47:11] of 2027. As part of [47:14] the grant, we are [47:15] working to develop a [47:16] database and a [47:17] dashboard to improve [47:18] and provide a virtual [47:30] address their [47:31] facility improvement [47:32] needs. The dashboard [47:34] will also be an [47:34] effective tool for [47:35] the Department of [47:36] Education in [47:37] documenting school [47:37] building conditions [47:38] across the [47:49] with completed [47:51] assessments, and the [47:52] red asterisks [47:53] indicate the division [47:54] with one of two [47:55] completed assessments [47:56] so far in the process. [48:08] of 2027. All sassy [48:12] assessment data will [48:13] be collected in the [48:14] dashboard. Divisions [48:15] will have access to [48:16] the updated [48:17] information and be [48:18] able to complete [48:30] included. This will [48:31] allow the dashboard [48:32] to become a [48:33] repository for all [48:34] school facility data [48:36] and school fidelity [48:37] facility conditions [48:49] the Commission in [48:52] 2024, the state [48:53] budget included $18.5 [48:55] million through a [48:56] combination of state [48:57] and federal funds to [48:58] provide one time [48:59] grant funding to [49:10] there is 3.95 million [49:13] in unclaimed [49:14] reimbursements from [49:14] this grant award, and [49:15] school divisions have [49:16] until November 1st to [49:17] submit their [49:18] reimbursements. These [49:30] training of staff. [49:34] Also in accordance [49:35] with the Code of [49:36] Virginia, Vdoe [49:37] provides guidelines [49:38] for school divisions [49:39] in Virginia's public [49:50] additions. There is [49:51] also recommendations [49:53] governing the [49:54] instructional, [49:55] operational and [49:55] health and [49:56] maintenance needs not [49:57] addressed in the [49:58] Virginia Uniform [49:59] Statewide Building [50:08] of 2026. That [50:11] completes my [50:12] presentation this [50:13] afternoon for the [50:14] commission. I'll turn [50:14] it back to you, Mr. [50:15] Chair. [50:15] >> Thank you so much, [50:16] Miss Berta. Does [50:17] anybody have any [50:18] questions for the [50:30] assessment tool. You [50:32] know, one of our [50:33] tasks involves [50:36] modernization. And I [50:37] just feel like some [50:38] of our schools are, [50:50] for renovations of [50:52] front offices for, [50:54] for line of sight or [50:57] learning cottages [50:58] that might be on the [50:59] property that really, [51:10] Delegate Simon. I [51:11] think that is an [51:12] opportunity for us. [51:13] This is this is a [51:14] great stride forward [51:15] when I tell you we're [51:16] collecting. Mr. fix [51:17] sits on an Excel [51:18] spreadsheet, and it's [51:19] very antiquated. And [51:30] sure my Director of [51:31] Support Services [51:32] hears that loud and [51:33] clear too. And [51:33] whatever we can do to [51:35] make this process [51:35] better for our school [51:36] divisions, that's our [51:37] ultimate goal. They [51:38] work really hard and [51:50] can join us back on [51:51] the dais, but we [51:52] appreciate your [51:52] presentation, and [51:54] we'll look forward to [51:54] continuing to work [51:55] with you on some of [51:56] these, some important [51:58] information data that [51:59] you're collecting so [51:59] we can move forward [52:10] Josette Bulova, who [52:11] is the policy [52:12] communications [52:13] coordinator for the [52:14] Virginia Municipal [52:14] League. [52:30] by Josette Bulova, [52:31] policy communications [52:32] coordinator with the [52:33] Virginia Municipal [52:34] League VML. And we [52:35] appreciate the [52:36] opportunity to update [52:37] the Commission on the [52:38] local option. Voter [52:50] commission [52:52] recommendation back [52:52] in 2021, and many of [52:54] the members here have [52:55] carried legislation [52:56] and worked on other [52:57] areas, and it's so [52:58] nice to see it [52:59] actually come to [53:00] fruition. So we truly [53:09] the K-12 stakeholders [53:11] community. And again, [53:13] we appreciate [53:14] appreciate the [53:14] opportunity to be [53:15] back before this [53:15] commission to talk [53:16] about this and just [53:17] like to give an [53:18] overview of how we [53:19] got to where we are, [53:30] around back then, [53:32] myself included, you [53:33] may recall that [53:34] Halifax County was [53:35] the first locality [53:36] that was granted the [53:37] statewide authority [53:38] by the Assembly and [53:39] the governor, and [53:49] of course, in 2021, a [53:51] major turning point. [53:52] As part of the [53:53] commission's work, it [53:54] evaluated and then [53:55] recommended that this [53:56] authority should be [53:57] given to counties and [53:58] cities statewide. And [54:10] stalled or was vetoed. [54:12] But very fortunately, [54:13] this year, the [54:15] legislature and [54:16] Governor Spanberger [54:17] enacted this idea [54:19] through the budget [54:29] that 47 localities [54:31] have approved the [54:32] resolution placing [54:32] the referendum on [54:33] this November 3rd [54:35] ballot, which is for [54:36] those who can do the [54:37] math, more than one [54:38] third of all counties [54:39] and cities in the [54:50] construction tools. [54:52] And just an important [54:53] distinction. The [54:53] General Assembly [54:54] provided this [54:55] authority, but local [54:56] governments must [54:56] decide whether to [54:57] pursue it or not. And [54:58] then ultimately, [54:59] voters make the [55:00] decision about [55:10] authority, as I was [55:12] going to say, it's no [55:13] longer an untested [55:14] concept. We've seen [55:14] it in action, and 909 [55:17] localities already [55:17] have the referendum [55:18] authority. And those [55:19] are the counties of [55:29] this issue. And every [55:31] referendum effort has [55:32] eventually passed. [55:34] More importantly, [55:35] though, what has this [55:36] authority [55:37] accomplished? And [55:37] according to our data, [55:39] in these eight [55:40] localities, more than [55:50] estimated project [55:51] total. And that [55:52] includes a you know, [55:53] we talked about [55:53] Halifax. It includes [55:54] a brand new $125 [55:56] million high school [55:56] in Halifax County. [55:58] And I think it [55:58] demonstrates the [55:59] authority can [55:59] translate into real [56:10] as real estate tax. [56:13] So this this map is [56:14] from the Virginia [56:15] Mercury. I'd like to [56:16] give them credit, but [56:17] I think it really [56:18] tells the story in [56:19] terms of the demand, [56:29] the green is the ones [56:31] that are currently [56:31] seeking this [56:32] authority this year. [56:33] And I should just [56:34] point out that just [56:35] because they're [56:35] seeking authority [56:36] doesn't necessarily [56:36] mean that this is an [56:37] automatic increase in [56:39] tax, it still needs [56:39] to go to the voters [56:50] this authority. [56:53] >> Thank you, Jeremy, [56:54] and good afternoon, [56:55] Commission members. [56:57] This next map [56:58] highlights the [56:59] individual names of [57:09] in green. Over the [57:11] years, when statewide [57:11] authority was debated, [57:13] one of the questions [57:14] constantly asked of [57:15] us was whether this [57:16] was primarily an [57:17] issue for one [57:18] specific area of [57:19] Virginia or the whole. [57:30] presentations this [57:31] morning, this map [57:33] shows the immediate [57:34] interest of local [57:34] governments, [57:35] regardless of their [57:36] geographic location. [57:38] So the next three [57:39] slides will provide [57:50] Taxation. For fiscal [57:51] years, FY 26 through [57:54] 2028. I just wanted [57:55] to note that this [57:56] sales tax does not [57:57] include food and [57:58] personal hygiene [58:00] products, so keep [58:08] revenues. If all 47 [58:13] referendum were [58:13] approved and [58:14] implemented, total [58:14] estimates would be [58:15] around 414 million in [58:17] FY 26, 423 million in [58:30] dollars annually. [58:31] Although this is a [58:32] wide range, even 1 or [58:34] 2 million in [58:34] recurring revenue can [58:37] make a meaningful [58:38] difference for local [58:39] governments when [58:40] determining the [58:50] issue of this is the [58:51] same addressing [58:52] school capital needs. [58:54] So this next slide [58:55] aims to show you the [58:57] geographic and fiscal [58:59] diversity. Further [59:10] western Virginia, [59:12] Chesterfield County [59:12] and the city of [59:13] Richmond in central [59:14] Virginia, Isle of [59:15] Wight in Hampton [59:16] Roads, Fairfax City [59:17] in Northern Virginia, [59:18] City of Martinsville [59:19] and Southside, and [59:30] million right here in [59:31] Richmond and nearly [59:33] 60 million in [59:34] Chesterfield, all [59:34] based on the FY 26 [59:36] estimates. This range [59:38] really highlights the [59:39] construction needs [59:50] this particular tool [59:52] fits, or if they need [59:54] it for their [59:55] particular needs. So [59:57] next steps. You may [59:58] be wondering where do [59:59] we go from here? The [1:00:10] voter approval is not [1:00:11] the final [1:00:12] administrative step. [1:00:13] If a render from [1:00:15] passes, the local [1:00:15] governing body must [1:00:16] then formally adopt [1:00:17] an ordinance to [1:00:18] actually levy the [1:00:19] school construction [1:00:29] Identify the date on [1:00:31] which the tax will [1:00:32] expire 20 years from [1:00:34] the passing of the [1:00:35] resolution, not the [1:00:36] referendum. And [1:00:37] finally, a certified [1:00:38] copy of the ordinance [1:00:39] must be forwarded to [1:00:49] with the rest. [1:00:51] >> Thank you. Josette. [1:00:52] So just to reiterate, [1:00:54] November is not the [1:00:55] end of the [1:00:55] conversation. [1:00:56] Obviously, it's [1:00:56] really the beginning [1:00:57] of the next phase, [1:00:58] and it will be [1:00:59] important, I think, [1:01:10] tax supported capital [1:01:11] needs. And we would, [1:01:12] of course, love to [1:01:13] come back to the [1:01:14] commission and update [1:01:15] you after the [1:01:17] referendum results. [1:01:18] And then potentially, [1:01:19] as things go forward, [1:01:30] once, being able to [1:01:31] do this and [1:01:32] implementing it. And [1:01:33] inevitably, it will [1:01:33] identify some [1:01:34] implementation [1:01:35] questions, as each [1:01:36] experience will [1:01:37] inevitably vary [1:01:37] community to [1:01:38] community. So we look [1:01:39] forward to working [1:01:50] ultimately not in the [1:01:51] final budget. [1:01:52] Language was the [1:01:53] issue of debt service. [1:01:54] You know, the current [1:01:56] authority, which [1:01:56] we're very grateful [1:01:57] of, does allow only [1:02:10] they unfortunately [1:02:11] had to move forward [1:02:13] with construction [1:02:14] projects just because [1:02:15] the need was so great. [1:02:17] So they dug deep into [1:02:18] their existing [1:02:19] revenue sources to [1:02:29] maybe future [1:02:31] consideration. But in [1:02:31] closing, I just want [1:02:32] to return to where we [1:02:34] started and thank the [1:02:36] Commission again for [1:02:37] its and I don't if [1:02:38] there are any [1:02:39] questions I'll get to [1:02:50] about the scale of [1:02:51] the need that you've [1:02:52] all identified back [1:02:53] in 2021, and the [1:02:54] department is doing a [1:02:55] great job cataloging [1:02:56] going forward, and [1:02:57] the demand for [1:02:58] additional local [1:02:58] tools to help address [1:03:10] should also like to [1:03:11] acknowledge the [1:03:12] General Assembly and [1:03:13] the Department for [1:03:14] all the work that's [1:03:15] done through programs [1:03:15] like the Literary [1:03:16] Fund, the School [1:03:17] Construction [1:03:18] Assistance Program, [1:03:19] the Virginia Public [1:03:20] School Authority. As [1:03:29] forward. And but this [1:03:31] is a significant [1:03:32] addition to the [1:03:33] toolbox that [1:03:33] preserves local [1:03:34] decision making [1:03:34] authority. Local [1:03:36] governing bodies [1:03:37] determine whether to [1:03:37] pursue it. And then [1:03:38] ultimately, voters [1:03:39] make the final [1:03:50] may have. [1:03:51] >> Thank you so much. [1:03:53] I'm going to take [1:03:54] over the gavel from [1:03:56] Chair Askew. Do we [1:03:58] have any questions [1:04:10] the allocation of [1:04:12] grants as well as the [1:04:13] new use of sales and [1:04:15] use tax as our [1:04:18] population cohort [1:04:30] you know, Weldon [1:04:31] Cooper data [1:04:32] indicating some are [1:04:33] up to 10% reduction [1:04:34] in cohort size. 10% [1:04:37] over a school system [1:04:38] is a fairly [1:04:38] significant chunk of [1:04:50] around. And hopefully [1:04:51] that Vaiko and VML [1:04:52] and others can start [1:04:53] to have those [1:04:54] discussions, because [1:04:54] I think it'd be wise [1:04:56] for the state to sort [1:04:57] of keep an eye on [1:04:58] where those funds are [1:05:10] >> Thank you. [1:05:12] >> Mr. Bennett. [1:05:13] >> Yes, thank you, [1:05:14] Madam Vice Chair. And [1:05:16] and Senator McPike. [1:05:17] It is it is obviously [1:05:18] an issue of concern, [1:05:19] especially in rural [1:05:30] seeing a larger [1:05:31] capital infront [1:05:33] consolidate as as you [1:05:35] know, as economies of [1:05:36] scale take effect, [1:05:37] also declining in [1:05:38] population. And I [1:05:50] whether it's due to [1:05:51] declining population [1:05:52] or the need for just [1:05:54] a, you know, reducing [1:05:55] the, the capital [1:05:57] imprint on their [1:05:58] community. So we'll [1:05:59] definitely keep that [1:05:59] in mind, take that [1:06:10] going to get choked [1:06:11] up on. Literally. [1:06:15] >> I'll pass. [1:06:30] consolidate schools [1:06:31] that that can be [1:06:33] baked into funding, [1:06:36] funding available [1:06:38] opportunities. [1:06:50] do know, thinking [1:06:52] back, I want to say [1:06:54] 2021, but several [1:06:55] years ago, the last [1:06:57] joint consolidation [1:06:58] between school [1:06:59] divisions with the [1:07:10] joint division, which [1:07:12] I think it generated [1:07:14] savings of around $1 [1:07:15] million per year. And [1:07:16] they were able to do [1:07:17] it in a way that [1:07:19] didn't actually lose [1:07:30] regionalism and [1:07:31] consolidation was [1:07:32] encouraged and [1:07:33] supported by the [1:07:34] General Assembly. [1:07:35] >> Thank you. [1:07:36] >> Any other [1:07:37] questions from [1:07:38] members of the [1:07:48] sales tax is the [1:07:51] opportunity to issue [1:07:52] bonds around a new, [1:07:55] you know, flow of, of [1:07:58] revenue. Can you tell [1:08:10] the sunset in 20, 20 [1:08:12] years with like [1:08:14] issuing bonds for [1:08:15] school construction [1:08:17] project? [1:08:18] >> Okay, okay. [1:08:30] with the date in [1:08:31] terms of when the 20 [1:08:33] years kicks off and [1:08:35] general bonding, and [1:08:36] there are procurement [1:08:37] experts here much [1:08:38] more qualified than I [1:08:39] to comment about it. [1:08:50] maybe something to [1:08:51] consider with future [1:08:52] legislative action. [1:08:53] If that is indeed an [1:08:55] issue. [1:08:56] >> What do my fellow [1:09:10] maybe for a future [1:09:12] meeting, maybe we [1:09:13] could address that. [1:09:14] What do you all think. [1:09:15] >> Would be great? [1:09:16] >> Yeah. Okay. Maybe [1:09:17] that's we could [1:09:18] bookmark that as [1:09:19] something we want to [1:09:30] localities I have [1:09:31] four that that I [1:09:33] represent. One of [1:09:33] them have talked [1:09:34] about the real need [1:09:36] for to be able to go [1:09:37] back and fund [1:09:38] existing bond, [1:09:38] purchase a bond, [1:09:50] high quality [1:09:51] education that we're [1:09:52] demanding from them, [1:09:53] I think it makes [1:09:54] sense, and I would [1:09:55] encourage us to [1:09:56] readdress that issue. [1:09:56] I think, in a sense [1:09:57] of fairness to both [1:10:10] payment of bonds that [1:10:13] have already been or [1:10:14] construction projects [1:10:15] that have already [1:10:16] been started? [1:10:17] >> Yes. Yeah. Under [1:10:18] the 1% program, the [1:10:30] addressing the debt [1:10:31] service? [1:10:33] >> Yeah. [1:10:34] >> Okay. [1:10:34] >> That the Senate [1:10:35] agrees. [1:10:36] >> Okay. [1:10:36] >> So he. [1:10:38] >> Just speaks for [1:10:50] >> All right. Going [1:10:51] back to the agenda, [1:10:53] our next item of [1:10:55] business is public [1:10:56] comment and other [1:10:58] business. Do we have [1:11:09] of the commission? [1:11:11] >> Madam chair. [1:11:12] >> Delegate Runyon. [1:11:14] >> Madam chair, I [1:11:15] appreciate this. And [1:11:15] this is really [1:11:16] interesting as we [1:11:17] look or saw some of [1:11:19] the presentation [1:11:30] interesting. I find [1:11:31] that very appreciate [1:11:32] that. What is what's [1:11:34] fascinating is I have [1:11:35] a regional career, [1:11:36] actually, I have two [1:11:37] regional career and [1:11:38] technical centers in [1:11:50] district technical [1:11:51] center. And so I'd [1:11:52] like for this [1:11:52] commission to take [1:11:53] that up and look at [1:11:54] that. It does make [1:11:55] sense to me, at least [1:11:57] in my rural area, for [1:11:58] us to create some [1:12:11] for students to [1:12:12] participate in a [1:12:13] nontraditional way. [1:12:14] But we've got to be [1:12:15] innovative, and we've [1:12:16] got to allow the [1:12:17] system to provide for [1:12:29] requesting [1:12:31] information on how [1:12:33] regional education [1:12:34] centers or regional [1:12:35] career and tech [1:12:36] center schools are [1:12:38] constructed or their [1:12:50] someone can present [1:12:52] how these regional [1:12:54] education centers [1:12:55] when they need [1:12:56] upgrading, what what [1:13:10] to look at in future [1:13:12] meetings? Okay. [1:13:16] Hearing none, that [1:13:17] completes our agenda. [1:13:18] >> Motion to adjourn. [1:13:19] >> Second.