1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:02,080 Everyone stand for the pledge of 2 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,440 allegiance, please. I pledge algiance to 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:07,860 the flag of the United States of America 4 00:00:07,860 --> 00:00:08,480 [clears throat] 5 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,679 and to the republic for it stands one 6 00:00:11,679 --> 00:00:14,960 nation under God, indivisible with 7 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:21,109 liberty and justice for all. 8 00:00:21,119 --> 00:00:23,600 Yeah. Day late, right? 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,349 >> Yeah. 10 00:00:27,359 --> 00:00:32,310 Two days late. 11 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,719 » Roll call members, please. Sherperson 12 00:00:34,719 --> 00:00:36,480 Roth 13 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:37,280 >> here. 14 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:38,480 >> Commissioner Kinsky 15 00:00:38,480 --> 00:00:39,520 >> here. 16 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:42,480 >> Uh, Commissioner Euing 17 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:44,000 >> here. 18 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:44,960 >> Commissioner Donovan 19 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,079 >> here. 20 00:00:46,079 --> 00:00:49,760 >> Uh, Commissioner Bowman. 21 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:50,879 Commissioner [clears throat] Grass 22 00:00:50,879 --> 00:00:51,760 >> here. 23 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,719 >> Our new uh Commissioner Latrell 24 00:00:54,719 --> 00:00:56,160 >> here. 25 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,719 >> Uh and Alderman Leison Prince 26 00:00:58,719 --> 00:01:00,000 >> here. 27 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,160 >> And we have a quum. 28 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,400 >> Approval of the agenda for September 29 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,070 3rd, 2026. 30 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:09,600 » Motion to approve. 31 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:10,080 >> Second. 32 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,680 >> I have a motion and a second. All in 33 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:12,880 favor? 34 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,799 >> Opposed? I 35 00:01:14,799 --> 00:01:18,080 >> motion carries. 36 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,119 Approval of the minutes of from May 7th, 37 00:01:21,119 --> 00:01:32,469 2026. 38 00:01:32,479 --> 00:01:34,960 » Motion to approve. 39 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:35,600 >> Second. 40 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,680 >> I have a motion. I have a second. All in 41 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:38,479 favor? 42 00:01:38,479 --> 00:01:39,119 >> I 43 00:01:39,119 --> 00:01:40,640 >> opposed. 44 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,119 Motion carried. Introduction of 45 00:01:43,119 --> 00:01:46,000 evidence. 46 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,159 Uh, Mr. Chairman, I'd like to uh 47 00:01:48,159 --> 00:01:50,399 introduce into evidence the St. Genevie 48 00:01:50,399 --> 00:01:52,640 Municipal Code, the St. Genevie 49 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:55,920 Comprehensive Plan, and my staff reports 50 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,920 and supporting documents uh for the 51 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,360 cases before the commission this 52 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,840 evening. 53 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,320 >> Motion to accept the evidence as 54 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,079 presented. 55 00:02:06,079 --> 00:02:06,960 >> Second. 56 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,840 >> I have a motion and a second. 57 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,200 All in favor? 58 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:11,840 >> I 59 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,000 >> oppose. Motion carries. 60 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,040 Uh, citizen input. Everybody's here in 61 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:22,720 regards to the agenda items. Correct. 62 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,800 Old business. 63 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:26,400 None. 64 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,720 New business. 65 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:33,110 Can we uh 66 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:34,560 You can just reference the case number 67 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:35,200 if you want, 68 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,040 >> but can we just do this one first so she 69 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,640 can be out of here and go back? 70 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:42,000 >> You want to do that? You want to alter 71 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:42,480 it? 72 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:43,360 >> Do the 73 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:45,760 >> Sure. guest lodging first. You bet. 74 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,519 >> Okie do. We're going to go to uh 75 00:02:49,519 --> 00:02:52,080 SUP00004-26 76 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,720 to operate a guest lodging establishment 77 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,000 Airbnb at 6 Herszog Lane, a single 78 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:03,830 family residential structure. 79 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,000 Okay. 80 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,280 As the chairman said, um there's been a 81 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:12,319 request for an Airbnb 82 00:03:12,319 --> 00:03:15,040 uh at a single family residence located 83 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,080 at 6 Herszog Lane. And in your packet, 84 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,640 you will find the application. you'll 85 00:03:20,640 --> 00:03:24,560 find my report and some additional uh 86 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,640 photographs, an aerial photograph of the 87 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:33,360 property and uh current photographs of the house and kind of the parking 88 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:40,710 area yard area there as well. Um 89 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:42,879 so currently the property is located in 90 00:03:42,879 --> 00:03:45,680 an R1 single family uh residential 91 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,120 zoning district. Um the property uh does 92 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,599 meet all the requirements 93 00:03:51,599 --> 00:03:55,840 um that we have for uh guest lodging 94 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,959 including parking. Uh I have spoke uh 95 00:03:58,959 --> 00:04:01,040 it's a blank document in your packet but 96 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,200 I've spoke with the fire chief and the 97 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:06,159 police chief on on this item and they 98 00:04:06,159 --> 00:04:09,599 have no issues or concerns with it being 99 00:04:09,599 --> 00:04:13,599 an Airbnb. Um, the applicant is present 100 00:04:13,599 --> 00:04:16,079 tonight. If you have any questions uh 101 00:04:16,079 --> 00:04:19,199 for her, but um if you got any questions 102 00:04:19,199 --> 00:04:21,280 for me, I'll be glad to take them. But 103 00:04:21,280 --> 00:04:23,759 it meets all the requirements per our 104 00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:31,110 municipal code. 105 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,400 As you can see in the picture there, 106 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,160 there's plenty of plenty of parking to 107 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,000 be be there. And 108 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:37,680 >> well that [clears throat] 109 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,759 you know about off streetet parking I 110 00:04:39,759 --> 00:04:42,080 don't know how I mean if it really plays 111 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,560 any factor into that but horizontal lane 112 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,440 is not a city street so I don't know how 113 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,600 that falls in 114 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,280 >> as far as requirement of off streetet 115 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:54,160 parking well so if you go down to the 116 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,919 end of their lane and look in one of 117 00:04:55,919 --> 00:04:58,080 those pictures that shows the garage 118 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,280 there's 119 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:01,680 >> more than ample parking so it's you know 120 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,919 not that we want them parking on 121 00:05:03,919 --> 00:05:06,000 >> what appears to be City Street, right? 122 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,840 >> But I doubt they will. If they're going 123 00:05:07,840 --> 00:05:09,120 to access the home, they're going to 124 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:11,280 want to park down at the end by the 125 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:13,120 building. Anyway, 126 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,440 >> anybody questions, comments? Lee, do you 127 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,240 want to say anything? 128 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,880 If anybody has any questions, I'll be 129 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,840 happy to try to answer them. I'm not 130 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:26,639 being uh disrespectful, but I'm getting 131 00:05:26,639 --> 00:05:29,520 over like a good tour. So, 132 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:30,400 >> understandable. 133 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,039 >> The swimmer in me is struggling to 134 00:05:33,039 --> 00:05:34,800 breathe the water. 135 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,280 Anyway, I'm getting better. 136 00:05:37,280 --> 00:05:38,960 >> Okay. Can you hear me? 137 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,080 >> Yeah. 138 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,629 >> Okay. Does anybody have any questions? 139 00:05:44,639 --> 00:05:46,320 » Are you planning on having like a 140 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:47,759 mixeduse like it's going to be 141 00:05:47,759 --> 00:05:50,800 somebody's residence part of the year 142 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,600 and then an Airbnb the remaining part or 143 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,400 is it fulltime in Airbnb? 144 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:58,639 >> Uh what kind? Okay. It's going to be, 145 00:05:58,639 --> 00:06:01,120 you know, my sister Lynn and my brother 146 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:02,320 Mike 147 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,960 >> and I we the three of us own the we kept 148 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,600 it the house after mom and dad passed. 149 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,880 And so we pro the last 15 years or so 150 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:13,360 we've just been renovating it and and we 151 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,360 use it predominantly now just for family 152 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,160 functions like a herthod Christmas 153 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,440 party. But those of you that that grew 154 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,919 up here, you know, that house was always 155 00:06:23,919 --> 00:06:26,639 one that was very open and everybody 156 00:06:26,639 --> 00:06:29,280 came and ice skated and, you know, 157 00:06:29,280 --> 00:06:31,919 always ate and D. So, we thought, you 158 00:06:31,919 --> 00:06:33,600 know, it would be really good if we 159 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,400 could, you know, offer it as an Airbnb 160 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,039 just once or twice a month, very 161 00:06:39,039 --> 00:06:41,840 minimal. Uh because we still we still 162 00:06:41,840 --> 00:06:45,840 use it. Uh but that's kind of you know 163 00:06:45,840 --> 00:06:48,639 our theory or what we want to get out of 164 00:06:48,639 --> 00:06:51,440 this is uh and if you guys get up that 165 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,360 way you should really come by especially 166 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:54,960 of you that grew up here because it 167 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:57,360 really does look good a lot of the time 168 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,160 and energy mostly my brother Mike and 169 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,240 Lyn did. Uh but anyway, yeah. So, not 170 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,360 anything major, not a lot of vehicles. I 171 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,120 try to drive up there a couple times a 172 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:10,720 week and I know Mike's in and out of 173 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,919 there and but does that answer your 174 00:07:13,919 --> 00:07:14,639 question? 175 00:07:14,639 --> 00:07:15,440 >> Yeah. 176 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:16,800 >> Was there anything from any of the 177 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:17,919 neighbors? 178 00:07:17,919 --> 00:07:19,120 >> No. No. 179 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:23,029 >> Nobody has responded. 180 00:07:23,039 --> 00:07:25,039 » There's no other questions from the 181 00:07:25,039 --> 00:07:27,039 board. I would like to make a motion to 182 00:07:27,039 --> 00:07:29,520 approve with the conditions listed in 183 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,840 the staff report. 184 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:32,479 Second. 185 00:07:32,479 --> 00:07:33,680 >> I [clears throat] have a motion in the 186 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:37,599 second. Do a roll call, please. 187 00:07:37,599 --> 00:07:39,280 >> Okay. 188 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,120 Um, Chairman Roth, 189 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:42,319 >> yes. 190 00:07:42,319 --> 00:07:43,599 >> Commissioner Kinsky, 191 00:07:43,599 --> 00:07:44,400 >> yes. 192 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,319 >> Commissioner Euing, 193 00:07:46,319 --> 00:07:47,919 >> yes. 194 00:07:47,919 --> 00:07:49,120 >> Commissioner Donovan, 195 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:49,759 >> yes. 196 00:07:49,759 --> 00:07:50,880 >> Commissioner Grass, 197 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:51,599 >> yes. 198 00:07:51,599 --> 00:07:53,039 >> Commissioner, 199 00:07:53,039 --> 00:07:53,919 >> yes. 200 00:07:53,919 --> 00:07:55,280 >> And Alderman Prince, 201 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,759 >> yes. 202 00:07:57,759 --> 00:07:58,960 >> Oh, thank you. 203 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,080 >> Congratulations. appreciate 204 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:03,440 >> and that goes to window. 205 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,319 >> Now, am I excused? Oh, I do. I 206 00:08:06,319 --> 00:08:08,560 >> You can go. Yes. 207 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,080 >> I'm going to go watch Missouri's first 208 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:11,199 meeting. 209 00:08:11,199 --> 00:08:14,800 >> So, that that'll go uh to the first 210 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:15,840 reading. 211 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,560 >> Uh [clears throat] on the 24th, I think 212 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:19,280 24th. 213 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,360 >> 24th is the correct date. 214 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:23,919 >> All right. Good to see all of you. 215 00:08:23,919 --> 00:08:26,320 >> Thank you. Good luck. 216 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:26,960 >> [laughter] 217 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:33,909 >> We'll go to SUB 005-26. 218 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:38,159 » Okay, this is our subdivision U progress 219 00:08:38,159 --> 00:08:42,000 point. Um, 220 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,599 so [clears throat] this is is really the 221 00:08:43,599 --> 00:08:46,880 final plat. Um, 222 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,080 exempted out of this plat really is the 223 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:51,866 infrastructure plans. So the 224 00:08:51,866 --> 00:08:53,120 [clears throat] infrastructure plans are 225 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,160 I'd say probably 226 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:59,360 at 90% I think is a comfortable number 227 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,399 there. Uh Mary, if you want to say 228 00:09:02,399 --> 00:09:04,000 whether that's about the right number or 229 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,839 not, I don't know, but we're we're 230 00:09:05,839 --> 00:09:07,279 there. We're right there. 231 00:09:07,279 --> 00:09:11,519 >> Um but all of the utility settings and 232 00:09:11,519 --> 00:09:13,519 everything are on this plat. They'll be 233 00:09:13,519 --> 00:09:17,279 recorded with this plat. Um it wasn't 234 00:09:17,279 --> 00:09:19,200 too long ago that the city owned the 235 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,959 property. We divided uh the property up 236 00:09:22,959 --> 00:09:24,959 as as part of a plat that that was 237 00:09:24,959 --> 00:09:27,760 previously before the commission. And 238 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,959 this is taking that plat and 239 00:09:30,959 --> 00:09:33,360 incorporating it in and dividing 240 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,800 everything up into 137 home lots plus 241 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,800 the common ground. [clears throat] 242 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:41,200 This also includes 243 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,760 um some all the infrastructure that's 244 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,160 going to be the cities to uh maintain 245 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:52,640 and use and then also uh trails and the 246 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:57,990 um playground as well. 247 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,880 And so the folded up version that was in 248 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,360 your packet was the packet or was the 249 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,279 one that I printed off earlier this 250 00:10:05,279 --> 00:10:08,399 morning. And uh then we had uh a 251 00:10:08,399 --> 00:10:11,680 revision uh due to some factors. There 252 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:16,000 was some um correction of of spelling on 253 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:20,959 items and um dealing with getting the 254 00:10:20,959 --> 00:10:24,880 assignments correct. Nothing to do with 255 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:27,200 what is regulations from the city 256 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,279 standpoint. It's more of making it 257 00:10:29,279 --> 00:10:32,079 correct to get it recorded. 258 00:10:32,079 --> 00:10:33,760 That be a fair statement, Mary? 259 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:35,519 >> Yeah, that's correct. We're constantly 260 00:10:35,519 --> 00:10:37,200 just looking over the past to make 261 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,519 revisions or anything put together just 262 00:10:39,519 --> 00:10:41,519 correct things. 263 00:10:41,519 --> 00:10:44,560 >> So none none of those items were issues 264 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:47,680 that uh were concerns of the cities and 265 00:10:47,680 --> 00:10:50,320 it not meeting uh the requirements 266 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,720 before we brought it to you. Uh, but I 267 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,000 just want to let you know the ones 268 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,800 laying flat is the latest greatest copy 269 00:10:56,800 --> 00:11:00,640 that we'll take uh before 270 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,320 the board of alderman and then from 271 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,959 there uh if it's all approved then we'll 272 00:11:04,959 --> 00:11:09,910 have it recorded at that point. 273 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,399 » So they were able to add 10 building 274 00:11:12,399 --> 00:11:14,160 lots I guess from the last time cuz I 275 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,880 thought it was at 127. So it's always 276 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,399 been at 137. 277 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:20,320 >> I think it was higher than that before. 278 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,680 It was almost 200 was 173 at one point. 279 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:24,959 >> Yeah. 280 00:11:24,959 --> 00:11:28,079 >> And a lot of that's happened because of 281 00:11:28,079 --> 00:11:31,360 um the air vents and property going away 282 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,880 from that and uh any of the sinkhole 283 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:36,160 properties out there. We got to maintain 284 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:38,640 a distance away from those. So that's 285 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,160 what they've come up with to reduce it 286 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,399 down. It's been 137 since really since 287 00:11:42,399 --> 00:11:49,430 I've been on board. 288 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:51,760 Is there still a storm water management 289 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,440 plan that come forward? 290 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,360 >> Yeah, there there there is a SWIP plan 291 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,320 that's in the the documents with the 292 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:04,470 infrastructure drawings 293 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,399 and it 294 00:12:06,399 --> 00:12:08,240 I don't think we have any outstanding 295 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,720 items whatsoever on the SW plan cuz it's 296 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,279 in place right now. Uh they they 297 00:12:13,279 --> 00:12:16,399 currently have a land disturbance permit 298 00:12:16,399 --> 00:12:18,720 and we're using that swip plan which is 299 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,519 approved by the city to do that land 300 00:12:21,519 --> 00:12:23,040 disturbance 301 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,560 >> and then that will just carry on. 302 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:26,399 >> The storm water management plan was 303 00:12:26,399 --> 00:12:29,839 coming before us yet. 304 00:12:29,839 --> 00:12:32,320 >> It's part of the whole infrastructure 305 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:34,000 package. So what you're looking at 306 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,000 tonight is just the approval of 307 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:42,310 >> So we get to look at that yet before 308 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:43,200 Okay. 309 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:43,600 >> Yeah. 310 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:46,320 >> Well, no. In the meeting with 311 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,560 >> the first meeting we had with this Happy 312 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:51,120 said that the storm water management 313 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:55,519 plan had to come before us yet. 314 00:12:55,519 --> 00:12:58,000 >> I don't remember what he said, but yes, 315 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:02,733 the So, you've got water, sewer, swift, 316 00:13:02,733 --> 00:13:04,959 [clears throat] um, all that sidewalks 317 00:13:04,959 --> 00:13:07,279 and streets that Robert mentioned 318 00:13:07,279 --> 00:13:09,920 earlier is about 90%. The SW plan though 319 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,760 is done. Yeah, Swift fans complete. 320 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,760 Yeah, we're operating off of it right 321 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,959 now. And essentially, it's more related 322 00:13:16,959 --> 00:13:20,079 to operational of while the 323 00:13:20,079 --> 00:13:23,279 subdivision's being developed of how all 324 00:13:23,279 --> 00:13:25,600 that storm water is managed, how we 325 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:26,720 don't prevent, you know, how we're 326 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,399 preventing runoff, not allowing it out 327 00:13:28,399 --> 00:13:32,959 onto the streets or into any um 328 00:13:32,959 --> 00:13:34,560 waterways that are coming in and around 329 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:36,880 the property and materials not getting 330 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:39,680 off site. 331 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:41,600 You have it. 332 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,600 >> It shows up on the progress point plate 333 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,839 two. It says storm water management. 334 00:13:45,839 --> 00:13:49,600 We're looking at 335 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,200 here. 336 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,040 >> Well, is there an actual storm water 337 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,399 management plan? 338 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:55,200 >> Here it is. 339 00:13:55,200 --> 00:14:01,990 >> That's so 340 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,560 right here. We got it. 341 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:06,399 >> And at the top of the page, you 342 00:14:06,399 --> 00:14:08,800 >> happy said that that would come before 343 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,880 us because I questioned storm water 344 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,240 management when we wanted approval on 345 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,320 the subdivision in the beginning and 346 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,240 he said that the storm water management 347 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,920 plan would have to come before us. 348 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,760 >> Juny, what page is that? 349 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,639 >> But it's at the bottom right hand 350 00:14:26,639 --> 00:14:29,040 corner. 351 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:33,350 >> Sheet three of seven. 352 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:35,680 It can, but not unlike the water and 353 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:36,399 sewer 354 00:14:36,399 --> 00:14:41,350 >> management going down the slope and 355 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:44,959 » on the other side of parks common ground 356 00:14:44,959 --> 00:14:46,720 and then is a little further in. 357 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,120 >> Yeah. So that storm water uh management 358 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:50,720 reserve area, that's what you're talking 359 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:51,920 about. 360 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:52,320 >> Yes. 361 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,560 >> Yeah. Yeah. So that's that's those are 362 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:58,560 like the detention type areas. Um that 363 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,639 that's when it's all said and done. and 364 00:15:00,639 --> 00:15:03,360 the thing is developed, those will be in 365 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:05,440 place for all the storm water to go to 366 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,079 those and be managed from that point. 367 00:15:08,079 --> 00:15:10,959 And the develop or not the developer, 368 00:15:10,959 --> 00:15:13,839 the um 369 00:15:13,839 --> 00:15:16,320 subdivision organization 370 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,480 uh has and that's that information is on 371 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,959 the very first page. They will maintain 372 00:15:20,959 --> 00:15:24,000 those and be responsible for those. Now, 373 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,240 we do have access rights through this to 374 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,399 access that as a city to make sure they 375 00:15:28,399 --> 00:15:30,959 are maintaining it. And that's part of 376 00:15:30,959 --> 00:15:32,800 uh my department's job to make sure that 377 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,720 they're doing that. And we have access 378 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:36,000 to be able to make sure that they're 379 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,560 maintaining all those. And all those are 380 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,360 designed to not let any more water off 381 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:43,760 of the property than prior to 382 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:50,790 development. 383 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,680 But the actual SWIP plan that we're 384 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:56,880 operating off of doesn't really take 385 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,519 into account at this point in time for 386 00:15:59,519 --> 00:16:01,920 what we're doing out there now. Doesn't 387 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:06,160 take into account those detention bases 388 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:07,600 because they're not they're not in 389 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:13,350 operation until we build them. 390 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,120 But I most certainly can I mean I can go 391 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:16,959 get the swip land right now. It's in a 392 00:16:16,959 --> 00:16:19,120 great big roll in there. But 393 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:20,399 >> yeah, if you want to. It's right there 394 00:16:20,399 --> 00:16:21,120 in my mind. 395 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,800 >> I'm not sure what happened or even I 396 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,959 said at one point, but those plans all 397 00:16:26,959 --> 00:16:30,320 have to go through Cochran and Robert's 398 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:32,959 office to be approved per code. 399 00:16:32,959 --> 00:16:35,920 >> What you're approving is the layout. 400 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,800 >> My question is when we had that first 401 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,320 meeting 402 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,399 on this subdivision, there was an 403 00:16:42,399 --> 00:16:44,880 engineer here and I don't know who all 404 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,746 and I questioned storm water management. 405 00:16:46,746 --> 00:16:48,639 [clears throat] Happy said that that all 406 00:16:48,639 --> 00:16:51,040 comes to us later. 407 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,240 The storm water management 408 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:53,680 >> take a look at it. But it would have to 409 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,360 go through Robert's approval and 410 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:56,959 Cochran's approval. What you're 411 00:16:56,959 --> 00:17:00,000 approving is the plat. 412 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,199 >> So D saying we have authority to approve 413 00:17:03,199 --> 00:17:04,880 or disapprove of the storm 414 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,120 >> of the storm water plan or the water 415 00:17:07,120 --> 00:17:09,679 plan or the sewer plan. 416 00:17:09,679 --> 00:17:12,160 >> So that's beyond our review. 417 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,400 >> Yeah. 418 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,880 >> You want to add to that? I'll go grab 419 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:17,199 it. 420 00:17:17,199 --> 00:17:22,880 >> Yeah, I mean it's uh you know those are I mean obviously I'm I'm not 421 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,959 an engineer but that's why we have 422 00:17:24,959 --> 00:17:28,000 Cochran as a secondary uh to review 423 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:31,760 those between them and myself. Um 424 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:34,080 you know I'm I'm a flood plane manager 425 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,240 so I deal with flooding a lot which is 426 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:37,840 caused a lot by storm water. 427 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:40,240 >> I ran public works for years. 428 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:41,760 >> Sure. 429 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,160 This property where this is going on a 4 430 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,880 inch rain. 431 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:48,960 >> This whole thing was underwater and 432 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,520 crossing Parkwood Drive. Taller than a 433 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:52,320 fire hydrant. 434 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,160 >> Yes. 435 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,400 >> Because of so much water that comes off 436 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,480 of this side of Progress Parkway. 437 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:03,110 >> Gotcha. Is this the 438 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:05,280 I was one of the big ones that was open, 439 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:11,190 I think. But 440 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,000 » question did much of that common ground 441 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,360 that 10 acres along progress was that 442 00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:23,110 unusable because of the terrain. 443 00:18:23,120 --> 00:18:25,120 Yeah. So that's where where it drops off 444 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:27,120 progress. that drops steep off and then 445 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:28,880 there's just a small section that's flat 446 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,280 before you hit that 447 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,440 uh 448 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,039 I'm going to call it a creek channel cuz 449 00:18:35,039 --> 00:18:37,280 that's actually that's actually how it's 450 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,120 shown on the storm water uh improvements 451 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:44,000 is um not storm water improvements but 452 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:59,909 it's it's shown as a as a creek 453 00:18:59,919 --> 00:19:12,950 Sure. 454 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:18,150 So here is the beginning page of it. 455 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,760 So this is one page one of their SWIP. 456 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,919 So with their SWIP, it deals with 457 00:19:23,919 --> 00:19:27,840 everything from um like I said, keeping 458 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,760 runoff and keeping material from going 459 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,960 out onto the streets. So they'll have a 460 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,960 gravel entry area. They have what they 461 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:38,480 call a wash down station. Um they'll 462 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:42,320 have uh facil toilet facilities, trash. 463 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,919 They'll have a uh concrete lined uh 464 00:19:45,919 --> 00:19:48,640 container. So, we're not going to dump 465 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,880 concrete spoils out along the 466 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,799 properties. They'll be dumped in a in a 467 00:19:52,799 --> 00:19:54,720 managed containment system, so there 468 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,760 won't be uh concrete water even washed 469 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,600 out onto the ground. Um they will have 470 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,039 uh temporary detention basins in place 471 00:20:05,039 --> 00:20:07,200 that then will become permanent 472 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,360 detention basins at that point. So 473 00:20:09,360 --> 00:20:11,280 you've got the big one to the north. So 474 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,640 it's going to catch all that water from 475 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,039 uh if we're essentially looking at at 476 00:20:17,039 --> 00:20:22,720 your maps there uh a long lot maybe like 477 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,360 76 and 62 if you can see the lot numbers 478 00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:28,000 on your on your plans there. Mhm. 479 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,840 >> So from there up is all going to drain 480 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,679 to the northeast corner of the property 481 00:20:35,679 --> 00:20:37,600 and there will be a big detention basin 482 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,880 there and then that uh will hold the 483 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,520 water and let it out at no faster rate 484 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,120 than it was coming across that area 485 00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:48,640 prior to development. 486 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,760 And then also these sink holes that are 487 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:56,159 shown on here also take on uh some storm 488 00:20:56,159 --> 00:20:58,320 water drainage as well from the west 489 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:03,190 side of the property. 490 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,679 So the very next page is those lots that 491 00:21:05,679 --> 00:21:08,559 I just mentioned south. So there's a 492 00:21:08,559 --> 00:21:10,320 large detention basin that you can see 493 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,360 on on and that's the one that you 494 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:16,080 mentioned earlier that was on that page. 495 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,200 um that'll that'll be a sediment basin 496 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,880 as well. And again, it dumps all the 497 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:25,520 water gets directed down that way and 498 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:27,919 gets dumped off. And then it all of that 499 00:21:27,919 --> 00:21:30,159 will then that rate that's not supposed 500 00:21:30,159 --> 00:21:33,200 to be any more than prior to development 501 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,200 will come all the way south of the 502 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,960 property 503 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,159 and filter out just as it does now. 504 00:21:40,159 --> 00:21:41,760 >> It goes this way now. 505 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,240 >> Mhm. cuz here's where it comes under 506 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,080 Progress Parkway and it goes to a 507 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,120 sinkhole up here. 508 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:52,000 So the the difference from elevation 509 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,200 from here to here is tremendous. So I 510 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:56,159 don't know how it's getting to a 511 00:21:56,159 --> 00:21:58,559 sinkhole that's up here 512 00:21:58,559 --> 00:22:01,840 unless it's underground 513 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:04,880 cuz this goes uphill like that to the 514 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,480 north as you come from south. 515 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,640 >> Okay. Then it comes around here and goes 516 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,400 >> Yes. It it it kind of comes around this 517 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:11,840 direction. drain in this direction is 518 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,200 drain in that correct direction. Yeah. 519 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,960 This all goes from the property you were 520 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:16,720 talking about on this side of of 521 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,039 Progress Parkway comes through here. 522 00:22:19,039 --> 00:22:20,720 Yes. All the all the corn stuff on this 523 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,880 side comes around and wraps and goes in 524 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,120 between here and the arch dascese 525 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:27,919 property. 526 00:22:27,919 --> 00:22:31,280 >> Okay. I do want to reiterate you have 527 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,320 [clears throat] perview approval over 528 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,760 easements and access and layout all 529 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,640 those things just not over the 530 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,840 engineering specs involved. Does that 531 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,320 make sense? Okay. 532 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,799 >> But that well okay we'll just go with 533 00:22:48,799 --> 00:22:54,630 that. All right. 534 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,080 But I can I can I can copy these and 535 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,240 send these uh I'm more than happy to 536 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,159 send these to you all so you can you can 537 00:23:02,159 --> 00:23:03,440 take a look and so you can see what's 538 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,360 going on there and what's going to be in 539 00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:08,559 place. That's not a problem. 540 00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:11,200 Obviously, they won't be this big, but 541 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,200 you can zoom in and and look at all of 542 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:20,549 them for sure. 543 00:23:20,559 --> 00:23:24,000 Okay, back to where we were. 544 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,080 If there's no further questions, I would 545 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:30,080 make a motion to approve. 546 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,080 I have a motion. 547 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:32,960 >> I'll second. 548 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,960 >> I have a second. Roll call, please. 549 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,000 >> Cher Ross. 550 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,559 >> Yes. 551 00:23:40,559 --> 00:23:41,760 >> Commissioner Kinsky. 552 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,600 >> Yes. 553 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,919 >> Commissioner Yuing. 554 00:23:45,919 --> 00:23:47,280 >> Yes. 555 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:48,320 >> Commissioner Donovan. 556 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:48,960 >> Yes. 557 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,080 >> Commissioner Grass. 558 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,000 >> Yes. 559 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,760 >> Commissioner Latrell. Yes. 560 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:55,520 >> And Alderman Lison on Prince. 561 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,630 >> Yes. 562 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:05,590 » And that passes unanimously. 563 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,159 » Okie do. 564 00:24:08,159 --> 00:24:10,559 Brings us to general discussion of 565 00:24:10,559 --> 00:24:14,559 possible additions andor amendments to 566 00:24:14,559 --> 00:24:16,880 the land use section of the St. Genevie 567 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,360 Municipal Code. So, I have I have a few 568 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:21,279 items here. Uh, but I'm going to cut it 569 00:24:21,279 --> 00:24:23,120 a little shorter and kind of split it 570 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:25,440 up. Um, 571 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,200 basically what I want to talk to you all 572 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,840 about is, you know, I've been here uh 573 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,279 roughly 5 monthsish now, and there's 574 00:24:33,279 --> 00:24:35,279 several things that that that come up 575 00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:37,760 and keep showing showing up. So, these 576 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:38,880 are items that [snorts] 577 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,400 uh with your all's permission, I'd like 578 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:45,039 to put together a list uh of these items 579 00:24:45,039 --> 00:24:48,080 and send them to you and let you look at 580 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,400 them and review them so that at our next 581 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,320 meeting, we can go over those items and 582 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,240 you can kind of look around in your 583 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,640 areas or around town to see that you're 584 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,159 seeing what I'm seeing. And to give you 585 00:24:58,159 --> 00:25:00,640 a good example, I included a photo, an 586 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,240 aerial photo at the very end of your 587 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,720 packet 588 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,880 that's not from here. 589 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,159 And I'm not going to tell you where it's 590 00:25:08,159 --> 00:25:09,919 from, but obviously you can see what 591 00:25:09,919 --> 00:25:11,840 county it's in. 592 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,679 >> So, if you look down at the lower left 593 00:25:13,679 --> 00:25:16,960 hand side, uh, where it says 460, 594 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,840 that is a single family dwelling. So, 595 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,840 you can see how much of the lot that takes up. And you can see how much 596 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,559 grass there is in that lot. And you can 597 00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:28,240 kind of see a theme that's starting to 598 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,600 pick up. The house to the north at 462 599 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,960 is kind of starting to do the same 600 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,520 thing. And if we jump across the 601 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,039 alleyway there at 383, it's kind of 602 00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:40,880 starting to do the same thing. [snorts] 603 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:41,887 So, 604 00:25:41,887 --> 00:25:41,919 >> [clears throat] 605 00:25:41,919 --> 00:25:43,600 >> um, those are kind of things that are 606 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:49,200 cropping up here as well. So, we're getting too much lot coverage. Um, 607 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,760 >> don't we have a code on percentage? 608 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,360 >> Yeah, we do on rear yard only, not on 609 00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:56,720 the entire lot. 610 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,039 >> Oh, okay. So, I thought it was the whole 611 00:25:59,039 --> 00:25:59,360 lot. 612 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:02,240 >> Yeah. It's 30% of your rear yard. 613 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,320 There's not a whole lot coverage amount 614 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,320 unfortunately. At least not that I've 615 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,000 been able to find anywhere. 616 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:09,919 >> So was included in that table. 617 00:26:09,919 --> 00:26:10,480 >> Do what? 618 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,000 >> I thought it was included in that table 619 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,360 that's at the front of the chapter. 620 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:14,880 >> There's not it's not a it's not a whole 621 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,039 lot coverage. 622 00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:21,520 Um, so the other part of of all of that 623 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,159 is um 624 00:26:24,159 --> 00:26:25,919 when you have these accessory buildings 625 00:26:25,919 --> 00:26:29,120 like a garage, a shed, and you start 626 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:31,760 putting them close to the house, we got 627 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,679 a regulation. It says if they get within 628 00:26:33,679 --> 00:26:35,840 10 ft, less than 10 ft of the house, so 629 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,640 if it's 9 ft 6 in away from the house, 630 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,480 it's considered part of the house for 631 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,880 zoning purposes. So that means it has to 632 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,159 meet the setbacks the same as the house. 633 00:26:46,159 --> 00:26:48,320 And we we've got a lot of structures 634 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:51,600 that that aren't that way. We're also 635 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,919 getting structures that are put on 636 00:26:53,919 --> 00:26:58,320 vacant lots that are right next to 637 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,480 the lot with the house on it. And you 638 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,159 can't have an accessory structure like a 639 00:27:02,159 --> 00:27:04,320 garage on a vacant lot without a main 640 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,039 house. So to do that, you can still do 641 00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:08,640 that. There's a couple different ways. 642 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,720 one you build across the lot line that 643 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,200 connects them together zoning wise or 644 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:14,960 you get them officially that lot line 645 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,880 gotten rid of and then you can put the 646 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,840 garage there. So it's going to be things 647 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,679 similar to that. So I'll make a list and 648 00:27:23,679 --> 00:27:25,840 let you guys go over it and then at the 649 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,679 next meeting we can kind of kind of go 650 00:27:27,679 --> 00:27:30,640 through those. Um 651 00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:38,559 the the big one uh really um is and it's a topic that probably most people 652 00:27:38,559 --> 00:27:40,080 uh either you like it or you don't like 653 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,480 it. Um all the cities I think are 654 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,320 dealing with it and it's something that 655 00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:45,520 we're going to start [snorts] going to 656 00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,000 need to get a handle on before somebody 657 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,080 does ask about it. We need to start 658 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,240 looking at uh developing regulations for 659 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,399 data centers. 660 00:27:54,399 --> 00:27:56,799 We need to get ahead of the game so that 661 00:27:56,799 --> 00:27:58,720 if somebody comes and wants to do one 662 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,399 because right now a data center here is 663 00:28:00,399 --> 00:28:03,039 not defined. So literally somebody could 664 00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:04,640 fill this building that we're in right 665 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,960 now with servers and really that's a 666 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:07,840 data center. 667 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:08,720 >> Mhm. [clears throat] 668 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,320 >> And it's going to take a lot of cooling 669 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,840 even though it's the building of our 670 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,240 size. So you know if you have a house 671 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,840 that's right next door to all that you 672 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,600 might not want to hear that right. So, 673 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,520 we want to make sure that we have the 674 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,080 appropriate things in place so that if 675 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,919 somebody is looking at doing that, they 676 00:28:23,919 --> 00:28:26,159 can look at our rules and regulations 677 00:28:26,159 --> 00:28:28,880 and go, "Oh, I come there, this is what 678 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,799 I'm going to have to do." They know what 679 00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:31,679 to expect 680 00:28:31,679 --> 00:28:32,640 >> as soon as possible. 681 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:33,039 >> Yeah. 682 00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:35,679 >> Well, have you looked at the Perryville 683 00:28:35,679 --> 00:28:36,799 regulation? 684 00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:37,279 >> Yes. 685 00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:37,600 >> Okay. 686 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:38,159 >> Yep. 687 00:28:38,159 --> 00:28:42,240 >> Cuz I mean, what Pville did was they saw 688 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,640 this as an issue. 689 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,240 >> Yep. and they enacted a regulation 690 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,720 kind of on a hurry up basis. Yes. 691 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,880 >> And then they said, "Well, we need to 692 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,000 tighten it." Not necessarily because 693 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,840 there was some developer out there, but 694 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,600 just because they realized that they 695 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,200 needed to tighten it. 696 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,000 >> And then they have tightened it again. 697 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:04,480 >> Right. 698 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,360 >> And I uh 699 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,480 >> I think time is of the essence. 700 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:14,320 >> Yeah. And and so even and so even if 701 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,120 >> you know our regulation was not perfect, 702 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,200 it's better than nothing. Yes. 703 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,760 >> At least initially and we could do what 704 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,640 Perryville's do doing. And I think 705 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,159 Perryville's 706 00:29:26,159 --> 00:29:27,679 regulation 707 00:29:27,679 --> 00:29:31,679 has got a lot to commend itself for in 708 00:29:31,679 --> 00:29:35,520 particular with regard to noise because 709 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,399 through a fortunate 710 00:29:38,399 --> 00:29:43,120 happen stance, the city attorney 711 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,520 was in the Navy and was an expert on 712 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,520 sonics and so basically wrote the 713 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,159 regulation so that it regulates both 714 00:29:52,159 --> 00:29:54,799 noise and tonality. And tonality is 715 00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:57,919 basically the spikes. No, noise is the 716 00:29:57,919 --> 00:30:01,840 average decibels and tonality focuses on 717 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,600 the spikes. And as I'm sure you can 718 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,720 imagine, you can have a generally low 719 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,799 level. But if there's a sudden loud 720 00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:12,320 piercing sound, it's quite annoying no 721 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,440 matter how generally low the level might 722 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:20,480 be. So I I think we need to move on 723 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:21,840 this. 724 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,240 >> So the the administrator and I have 725 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,240 attended uh some meetings and and 726 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,480 classes hearing kind of from both sides 727 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,799 of of of the deal and like you said, 728 00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:33,919 we've gotten Perryville's uh ordinance. 729 00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:37,440 So, um what I'd like basically to tell 730 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:40,640 you all that that we're gathering those 731 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:42,960 items to make rules and regulations and 732 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,360 I kind of like to do the same thing as 733 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,039 what I just described before. We'll put 734 00:30:47,039 --> 00:30:49,039 some stuff together. Are you going to 735 00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:51,520 put down put together a proposed 736 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,120 regulation? Okay. 737 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,279 >> Yep. So that way we can you guys can 738 00:30:55,279 --> 00:30:58,480 take that and and view it and we can put 739 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,960 things in, put things out and and come 740 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,039 up with something that gets to something 741 00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:06,000 we feel comfortable with at this stage 742 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,360 and then like you said if there's 743 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,559 something we need to change we can 744 00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:10,399 always change it. 745 00:31:10,399 --> 00:31:13,039 >> Wasn't Perry County also looking at that 746 00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:14,960 so it doesn't move out in the county? 747 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,760 >> No. the problem. Perry County, 748 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,360 so I've been up to a lot of the 749 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,159 meetings. Perry County is taking the 750 00:31:22,159 --> 00:31:24,240 position that there is nothing that the 751 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,200 county can do. They there are other 752 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,480 counties in Missouri that have done 753 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,480 moratoriums, 6-month, one-year 754 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,320 moratoriums. They have not been 755 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,320 challenged in the court yet as to the 756 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,640 validity of the moratoriums. 757 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,559 The Perry County Commission doesn't 758 00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:42,559 believe it has the authority to do the 759 00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:44,080 moratoriums. 760 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,240 There are other things that counties can 761 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,240 do, but right now the legislature hasn't 762 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,559 spelled them out. Like you may recall 763 00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:53,200 anything, 764 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:53,600 >> pardon? 765 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,760 >> Has our county looked at it yet? 766 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,240 >> To my knowledge, no. But it's somewhat 767 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:02,960 similar to when the uh silica sand mine 768 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,399 was proposed out towards Han and Wine 769 00:32:06,399 --> 00:32:09,360 Garden. And there are things that a 770 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,279 county can do, but they would be 771 00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:14,000 primarily focused on public health. So 772 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,919 the silica sand mine was delayed and 773 00:32:17,919 --> 00:32:19,919 ultimately the developers decided to 774 00:32:19,919 --> 00:32:21,519 walk away from the project, but it was 775 00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:24,159 delayed based on a health department 776 00:32:24,159 --> 00:32:25,760 regulation 777 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,480 that was combined with a county 778 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,000 commission ordinance. They were 779 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,840 basically identical, but the health 780 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,279 department had the power to make the 781 00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:36,799 regulation and the ordinance basically 782 00:32:36,799 --> 00:32:39,600 imposed a penalty should one violate the 783 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:44,240 regulation. So there are things I I 784 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,080 think frankly Perry Countyy's a little 785 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,399 bit wrong. I think there are things that 786 00:32:48,399 --> 00:32:51,279 steps a county could take. Now there is 787 00:32:51,279 --> 00:32:55,600 hope that when the legislature resumes 788 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,240 they will spell out what counties can 789 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,480 do. I'm not aware of our county doing 790 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,039 anything at the present time. The other 791 00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:08,720 thing that Perry C Perryville said was 792 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,080 they would be keen Pville would be keen 793 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,600 on annexing a county property. So, if a 794 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,919 farmer on a property just outside the 795 00:33:17,919 --> 00:33:21,039 county or the city boundaries wanted to 796 00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:24,080 sell his property to a data center, but 797 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,720 wanted the data center to be subject to 798 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,760 some level of regulation, the city of 799 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,799 Pville, or at least the city 800 00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:36,000 administrator said he would be in favor 801 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,039 of an of that sort of annexation. I 802 00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:41,679 don't even know if that would possibly 803 00:33:41,679 --> 00:33:44,880 apply, but you know, our great my great 804 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,840 fear is right now, for all I know, a 805 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,360 farmer is being offered 806 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:50,240 >> Yes. 807 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,000 >> you know, $100,000 an acre for property 808 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:59,269 in the county that abuts the city. 809 00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:01,679 » So, I think 810 00:34:01,679 --> 00:34:04,000 those are issues we need to move 811 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:04,399 quickly. 812 00:34:04,399 --> 00:34:05,919 >> Yeah, definitely. I think, you know, cuz 813 00:34:05,919 --> 00:34:08,639 if if somebody wants to do something 814 00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:11,119 like that, they're going to want to know 815 00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:13,359 upfront what's expected of them. 816 00:34:13,359 --> 00:34:13,919 >> Mhm. 817 00:34:13,919 --> 00:34:17,040 >> And we want to we want to ensure 818 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,520 ourselves and citiz the rest of our 819 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,560 citizenry that we're we're doing what's 820 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,919 best for them. Even if we end up with a 821 00:34:25,919 --> 00:34:28,399 data center or somebody, whatever 822 00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:30,879 community it is, that all the things are 823 00:34:30,879 --> 00:34:35,119 in place to to be able to 824 00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:36,720 Well, 825 00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:38,560 >> sorry. I'm going to back in here. 826 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,720 >> I would really 827 00:34:40,720 --> 00:34:43,760 commend looking at the Perryville 828 00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,919 regulation, the latest incarnation of 829 00:34:45,919 --> 00:34:48,320 the Perryville regulation cuz that 830 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,159 >> some of the provisions may be challenged 831 00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:52,720 in the law and you know, a developer can 832 00:34:52,720 --> 00:34:54,079 do that, but at least that they're 833 00:34:54,079 --> 00:34:57,359 there. They basically have a provision 834 00:34:57,359 --> 00:34:58,720 that says there will be no 835 00:34:58,720 --> 00:35:01,280 non-disclosure agreements. 836 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:01,760 >> Yep. 837 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,359 >> In connection with the development. 838 00:35:03,359 --> 00:35:03,760 Yeah, 839 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,240 >> we also have a provision that says if 840 00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:08,720 the developer abandons the project, 841 00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:10,720 they've got to restore the property back 842 00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:13,760 to its original value or sell it to the 843 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,640 city for a buck if the city wanted it 844 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:18,480 back for a buck. So, I [clears throat] 845 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,680 mean I think that that I think I don't 846 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,640 believe in reinventing the wheel. So, 847 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,880 there may be there may be tinkering on 848 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,920 it. For instance, Pville believes that 849 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,359 the only possible location for a data 850 00:35:33,359 --> 00:35:35,920 center of any sort of magnitude would be 851 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,880 in Pville's industrial park. There may 852 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,920 be locations that we have in our city 853 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,000 that would be suitable for a large scale 854 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,400 if not a hypers scale data center that 855 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,119 are not in the Pville Industrial Park. 856 00:35:51,119 --> 00:35:53,359 And so we may want to look at 857 00:35:53,359 --> 00:35:53,760 >> yes 858 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,240 >> some different approaches, but at this 859 00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:57,920 >> well that that goes back to my example 860 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,079 of having it in a in a building like 861 00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:02,160 this. If we have a a building a 862 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,160 warehouse building that's available but 863 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,160 it's not in the industrial park, 864 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:06,880 >> right? 865 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,560 >> Then we want to have something there 866 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,400 that 867 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,480 >> regulates that or doesn't allow it at 868 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,480 all or whatever we determine that's 869 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,400 going to be. 870 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,320 >> Okay. But that's that's what I'm looking 871 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,280 at is is uh getting your your guys' 872 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,320 input and we'll present something uh 873 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,920 Dave and I will work on on this and 874 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,599 we'll pre present something to you guys 875 00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:29,839 and that way we can get it moved from 876 00:36:29,839 --> 00:36:32,240 here up to council or up to the board of 877 00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:35,040 alderman and go on from there. 878 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,160 >> Well, but just to be clear, we have not 879 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,480 received or been contacted at all about 880 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,079 any data center 881 00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:42,880 >> proactive 882 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,200 >> anything. It's all a proactive approach. 883 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:45,760 Yeah, 884 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,359 >> I wouldn't be opposed to a special 885 00:36:47,359 --> 00:36:49,440 meeting if you have the regulation. 886 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,480 Yeah. Okay. 887 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,040 >> Do we ever address container homes? 888 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,640 >> Do you think there's a need to? Well, so 889 00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:59,920 they would have to meet the building 890 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:04,320 code regulation and uh the a container 891 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:09,599 home is not um it would have to have uh 892 00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:11,839 some unique ch it would really have to 893 00:37:11,839 --> 00:37:14,240 be designed by an architect with the 894 00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:16,480 license from the state of Missouri to be 895 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,119 allowed because it it's not able to be 896 00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:22,560 constructed under the residential 897 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,599 building code. So it it would be unique 898 00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:27,920 in that 899 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,000 >> because it doesn't fit the model code, 900 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,320 then it has to be engineered. So not 901 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,880 that there wouldn't be uh requirements 902 00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,320 for that. It would it would still have 903 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,599 to meet your minimum building code 904 00:37:37,599 --> 00:37:40,800 requirements, but as far as supports and 905 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:42,160 things like that, that'll be the 906 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,240 engineered side of it. 907 00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:49,280 >> But uh sizewise, um it it might even it 908 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,440 depends on what size container you got. 909 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:52,960 If you got one of the large the 40ft 910 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,960 containers, it's bigger than what a tiny 911 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:58,000 home would be and actually would meet 912 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,480 the spacing requirements for a a home. 913 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,400 >> Well, I mean, just seen some of them on 914 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:04,560 TV. They stack them and cut them and you 915 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:05,119 know that. 916 00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:06,480 >> Yeah. All that would have 917 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,359 >> cool stuff out of them. 918 00:38:07,359 --> 00:38:09,440 >> Yep. Yep. I've seen them stuck in the 919 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,160 ground sideways. So, um you know, at 920 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,000 angles. So, but all that would be 921 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,520 engineered and if somebody wants to do 922 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,200 that, we're we're more than glad to take 923 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,150 a look at that. 924 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,280 Going back to the buildings, um, we're 925 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,119 already, if y'all will consider like the 926 00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:27,680 historic homes where 927 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,760 things are too close, but your insurance 928 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,480 says that's not part of your house. You 929 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,800 got a shed in the back that's maybe 5 ft 930 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,640 away, living on Main Street in his home, 931 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,640 and my insurance company says that is 932 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,760 not the house. I have to separately, 933 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,000 >> so I can't see the city telling me it's 934 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,000 part of the house. Well, it's just for 935 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,760 zoning only, not building regulations. 936 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,079 So, per for per zoning requirements, 937 00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:56,320 it's for setback purposes. That's what 938 00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,720 it's there for. It's not to regulate 939 00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:01,440 construction or anything like that. It's 940 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,079 simply 941 00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:03,599 >> that makes sense, but you can tell me 942 00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:04,560 more about it later. 943 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:05,680 >> Okay. 944 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,119 >> Yeah. It's kind of one of those things 945 00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:10,160 like um uh Commissioner Kinsky 946 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,800 mentioned. Um most of these if you look 947 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,359 at planning zoning regulations through 948 00:39:15,359 --> 00:39:18,320 out cities in Missouri it's uh St. 949 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,720 Genevie didn't reinvent the wheel when 950 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:23,267 they made that requirement. Most 951 00:39:23,267 --> 00:39:24,560 [snorts] of the cities around here have 952 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,440 that exact same requirement. U not that 953 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,440 that's right or wrong but they they have 954 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,400 that same requirement. So um we're 955 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,200 looking at tweaking those whether it's 956 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,800 one way or the other. That's why I'm 957 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,040 bringing it to you guys to be able to 958 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:46,790 make those decisions. 959 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,480 And that's all I've got. All 960 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,400 >> other than two pages of notes, that was 961 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,520 it. 962 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,040 >> Yeah, cuz I I really don't want to get 963 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,560 fully into the rest of them. We'll be 964 00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,480 here a while. So, I can I can put them 965 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,560 all on that sheet and and you guys can 966 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,160 look at them. 967 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,910 >> Excellent. 968 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,280 Motion to adjurnn. Second. 969 00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,119 >> We got a motion and a second. All in 970 00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:10,240 favor? 971 00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:11,280 >> I 972 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,440 >> opposed. 973 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,440 Motion carry. Thank you.