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and start the meeting. We will start

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with the pledge of allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» Moving on to roll call.

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>> Commissioner Benner

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>> here. Commissioner Hooper

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>> here.

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>> Commissioner Buckeye

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>> Commissioner Tucker

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>> here.

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>> And Alderman um Leazison Patrick Fehey

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is absent. So we have a quorum.

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>> Okay. Moving on to the approval of the

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agenda for tonight's meeting.

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>> So uh before before we uh do an approval

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for the agenda, I want to make a couple

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changes. One, I want to remove the I

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2026 minutes. So, we're just going to

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strike that out. Also, under new

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business item 8, um the first one there,

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is misnumbered.

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but I don't know that yet. Uh that's

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just an internal tracking number for us

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anyway, but I did want it to be

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reflected on the record. So, uh, I'll be

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inserting the correct number into that,

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uh, once I put it back in the system and

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it gives me a new number. Um, but that's

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all the changes I have.

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I'll make motion to approve the agenda.

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>> Okay. I have a motion and a second to

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approve the amended agenda. All in

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favor?

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>> I. Any opposed?

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Okay, moving on to the approval of

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minutes from our last meeting of August

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26th, 2026.

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Are you going to make that change?

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the back page. Looks like you're all

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not president, it's precedent. So, I

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» I will make a motion to approve with the

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modified change. Second. Okay, I have a

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motion and a second to approve the

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minutes from the last meeting with the

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modification of the spelling. All in

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favor?

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» Okay, moving on to the introduction of

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evidence.

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evidence the St. Genevie Municipal Code,

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the um Heritage Commission guide design

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guidelines for the city of St. Genevieve

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uh National Register District and the um

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all of the submitted evidence and

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applications with each case before you

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tonight.

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>> Motion to approve the uh evidence.

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the evidence. All in favor?

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Okay. So, um the walking tour uh mobile

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app grant uh they'll be having their

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September 24th. Um, and that's uh right

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before our city count a little bit

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before our city council or sorry board

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of alderman meeting uh here at city hall

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in this room at 3 p.m. So uh they're required to have so many public

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forums and this will be the final one so

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grant which is the GIS historic data

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layer update. Um really there's no further updates. uh we're

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filling out some some more paperwork

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process um with the state to finalize

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everything. So, it still kind of is at

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paperwork. So, as soon as I get any more

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information, I'll pass that along.

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meetings ago. Um so, it's at 288.

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resubmitt. Um, so if you look at um it's

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original application. Um, however, I did

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alter my [clears throat] um report to

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what they are submitting for approval.

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do. Uh if you remember what was there

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before in the picture there before was

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kind of like a a gamble type roof uh

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narrower structure. Um totally different

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style. Um the other one that that did

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get approved looks almost identical to

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this. Um and they did include uh a

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picture of what the material is and it's

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actually wood. Okay.

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fake. So um yeah, obviously it's not

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full log, but um that that is the

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material type on both structures.

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they they've met the requirements of

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asking what you all have wanted from

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them, they are here. Uh if you have any

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questions for them, um they are here if

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package. Their request is I think we're

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it's very nicely done.

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>> What a question.

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any questions. You're a fun group to

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log sighting?

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>> it was the one. No, that was the one

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that he was talking about that looked

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like a shed.

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consistent. This This is almost

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thought that that was not real sighting.

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check cuz I started

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has the board seen one before that we

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it coming up before and I just wanted to

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make sure that we were being consistent.

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» Somebody else has something else.

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» I have a motion to approve the amended

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certificate of appropriateness to

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construct the new home at the vacant lot

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between 288 and 296 South Main Street.

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>> Second. Okay, I have a motion and a

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second to approve. All in favor?

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>> I I Any opposed?

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» I didn't hear you. Sorry.

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just wanted to be sure. Yeah. The eyes

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>> Okay, guys. So that's all you need for

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>> Sorry, Wendy. I'm sorry.

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>> I didn't hear either. She's right next

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to you. I'm sorry. [laughter] Look at

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me. I'm What did I do?

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handle this. Okay, moving on to

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the next item. to receive a certificate

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of appropriateness for the installation

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of vinyl windows in place of wood

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windows on the side and rear of the

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building at 145 Washington Street.

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>> Okay. So you have before you the

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application

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and my report there uh which shows a

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picture of of the the schoolhouse um as

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it's called and then uh they had

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submitted something for windows there

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but um the [clears throat] contractor uh

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Mr. Bayer there standing in front of us

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um brought this which this includes what

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they what they're now proposing not

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vinyl windows uh but this is a

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fiberglass type window that uh when when

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you really look at the finish of it has

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one here it has the wood look finish to

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it. Uh they're here to answer any

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questions you have about that

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installation. Um, and I'll pass this

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Alex we'll go with a vinyl type window,

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but um uh I'm all about the historic

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preservation. So my my point was vinyl

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is vinyl. It looks vinyl. Um, and Marvin

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comes out and Anderson as well have

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really good windows that have a lot of

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simulations to the wood. Um,

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>> seen these before.

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>> And [clears throat] anytime I'm dealing

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with a brick building or something like

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that, I I really get worried about the

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today's quality of wood. So, um, and I

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do understand that we have to have wood

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on the front. [clears throat]

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>> Or do we?

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>> At this point, yeah,

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I'm not going to fight with them.

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That's just a brochure that uh the

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architect give me. just kind of give you

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the script

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>> and they will do them custom 6 over6

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exactly what's there. They'll replicate

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precisely what is already existing

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>> So it would it not look like what it

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» Yeah. Hopefully it won't fall apart like

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Fiberglass will last a long time.

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>> Do we have any additional questions?

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» I'm just a big fan of wood.

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What's that?

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>> I I'm a huge fan of replacing the wood

275
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with the wood.

276
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>> Yeah.

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>> My my biggest thing honestly, Mark, in that is the quality of wood today.

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No, I and I

279
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>> and it it it it trust me as many years

280
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I've been doing this and watching

281
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today's wood, you know, um

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>> all the new growth wood,

283
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>> it it just you know, if you get 10 years

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out of out of a window anymore, you're doing great. and and and and it's

285
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sad, but [clears throat] that's why I've

286
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been on this hunt trying to, you know,

287
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everybody was doing vinyl vinyl and it's

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like it looks vinyl and it's like I Kim,

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is there something out there? And like I

290
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said, Marvin and I I believe Anderson

291
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are two of the companies that

292
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[clears throat] that um have a really

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good simulation of wood. And um and so

294
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that's kind of what I wanted to do was

295
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uh you know I know in the past that

296
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they've passed vinyls on the sides and

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the back, but

298
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>> we don't want to trash the building up.

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We want it to look as authentic as we

300
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can.

301
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>> Right.

302
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>> And these came recommended by the

303
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architect who does a lot of restoration

304
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of historic in St. Louis.

305
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>> Do you have any pictures of the windows

306
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as they are now that are in the

307
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building? You know,

308
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>> I went up and looked at

309
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>> Yeah,

310
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>> I'm sure I do.

311
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>> I probably do.

312
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>> This one right here, the whole front

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gone.

314
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>> Yeah, I know a couple of them are. I was

315
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just curious.

316
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[laughter]

317
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>> I mean, for the most part, most of them

318
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are in pretty decent shape. You just

319
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have a lot of really bad feeling paint.

320
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>> Uh the frames are gone [clears throat]

321
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and and most of them like on the

322
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>> Yeah. I mean, as I as I was looking at

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them.

324
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>> So, we have a few from a distance that

325
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you can zoom in on if you want to look

326
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at.

327
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>> Absolutely.

328
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>> Here's a few. I mean, it has a lot of

329
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windows is the other consideration. It

330
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was a schoolhouse, so it's all

331
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symmetrically

332
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>> windowed. There's like 15 or 16 of them,

333
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I think.

334
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>> I thought I took some the other day.

335
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>> And those are Oh, man. Yeah.

336
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And I can show you my

337
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» if you want.

338
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>> Yeah. No. Yeah. It's not working, is it?

339
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Yeah.

340
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>> Have some from the front.

341
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>> That whole side is supposed

342
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to side.

343
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>> Mhm.

344
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» Those are the same ones from the front.

345
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Oh, here's in the Oh, well, this is a

346
00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,040
different view of the side. Um, and the

347
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sort of front side. Yeah, this will show

348
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you some

349
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That's just the east side.

350
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The front two are particularly battered.

351
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» Anybody else want to see the existing

352
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windows?

353
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I touch something. [laughter]

354
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Anybody else want to see them? Do you

355
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need to see them? Do you want to see

356
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them?

357
00:15:25,199 --> 00:15:26,720
>> Yes. How far off are they from the left?

358
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>> You want to see the how far off?

359
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>> Well, it's the storm window in front of

360
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them. It's hard to see the

361
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>> picture in front of this.

362
00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:34,720
>> Right.

363
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>> I didn't see storms on them.

364
00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:39,040
>> They do. Well, some

365
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>> some of them had storm windows for

366
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probably 20 years.

367
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>> It's not too far off. Um but it's hard

368
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to see through the storm window,

369
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>> which is right. Yeah. So with hers

370
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a wooden window [clears throat]

371
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over the top

372
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>> right

373
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>> got

374
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>> and that whole side of the

375
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>> Yeah. Well, the whole thing is

376
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>> Yeah. That's that's one of the

377
00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,120
>> Yeah. Not a big fan of

378
00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,040
>> can be seen just by a drive by,

379
00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,519
>> right? Yeah. However, I will say this.

380
00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:10,079
We are thinking he's uh making the point

381
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about um you know, can you see it from

382
00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,120
the road? And currently, yes. But we do

383
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plan to put a kind of a hedge in the

384
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front. So, some of those windows that

385
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are now clearly visible from the street

386
00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:21,759
on the east side of the building might

387
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be a bit more obscured from the street.

388
00:16:23,839 --> 00:16:25,279
Just also to say that

389
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>> I don't [clears throat]

390
00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:28,320
touch.

391
00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,759
>> Yeah. Yeah. I don't think you're by time

392
00:16:31,759 --> 00:16:34,560
those windows get in in there. Unless

393
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they literally go up and

394
00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:39,279
>> inspect them, I doubt if they're ever

395
00:16:39,279 --> 00:16:42,161
going to see that it's it's not wood.

396
00:16:42,161 --> 00:16:43,279
[clears throat]

397
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>> Are they external or internal? Wait. The

398
00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:50,000
>> Yeah. [clears throat]

399
00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,480
Are the muttons are they are those

400
00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,320
between Are you getting double pain?

401
00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:54,959
>> Yeah.

402
00:16:54,959 --> 00:16:57,279
>> Are they between the pains or are they

403
00:16:57,279 --> 00:16:59,920
external?

404
00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:01,120
>> I'm not.

405
00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:02,880
>> Let me let me take a look at that

406
00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,360
because I [clears throat]

407
00:17:05,360 --> 00:17:09,360
There's a few different ones that

408
00:17:09,360 --> 00:17:11,360
um and he just gave me this brush here

409
00:17:11,360 --> 00:17:16,319
cuz I was like, "Do you have anything on the Marvin windows?

410
00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:20,069
Um,

411
00:17:20,079 --> 00:17:21,360
» are you talking about the divider

412
00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:22,319
pieces?

413
00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:24,160
>> I think they're external.

414
00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:28,480
>> I think they're doing it anyway.

415
00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,990
These are internal.

416
00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:33,679
» I'll be honest with you, I can't answer

417
00:17:33,679 --> 00:17:36,320
that, but I can I can

418
00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,080
>> definitely, but we need to make that

419
00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,760
decision tonight and I I get it.

420
00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,950
Um,

421
00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:48,000
most of them are on the inside out.

422
00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,160
Yeah.

423
00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:53,600
Um, maybe a six over six kind of like

424
00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,120
this. So, I'm going to say that's

425
00:17:57,120 --> 00:17:59,600
probably going to be I would say inside,

426
00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,200
but I can double check that.

427
00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:16,950
>> Okay. Okay. So,

428
00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:24,789
Oh yes.

429
00:18:24,799 --> 00:18:35,590
Turn off.

430
00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:39,120
Do we have any additional questions?

431
00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:44,070
I think so.

432
00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,957
» Are we ready to make a motion?

433
00:18:45,957 --> 00:18:49,830
[clears throat]

434
00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,640
» Just text to find

435
00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:56,720
just in I'll be off chance at

436
00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,880
>> I'm going to make a motion to deny

437
00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:06,640
based on um materials and uh I don't

438
00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:10,320
know the exact code. Do you need the

439
00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,919
exact code or do you assume you describe

440
00:19:11,919 --> 00:19:13,440
it?

441
00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:14,799
>> You describe it.

442
00:19:14,799 --> 00:19:18,000
>> Um based on the materials and the street

443
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:23,750
view.

444
00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,440
Okay. I have a motion to deny the

445
00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,840
certificate to install the fiberglass

446
00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,799
replacement windows based on our

447
00:19:32,799 --> 00:19:35,280
ordinance of

448
00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,440
replacement with light materials and the

449
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,360
view from the street. Do I have a

450
00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:41,280
second?

451
00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:42,799
>> I second.

452
00:19:42,799 --> 00:19:44,880
>> Okay, I have a motion and a second to

453
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,039
deny. All in favor?

454
00:19:47,039 --> 00:19:48,080
>> I.

455
00:19:48,080 --> 00:20:02,470
>> Any opposed?

456
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:06,400
Okay. So motion is denied.

457
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,919
Request denied. Sorry.

458
00:20:09,919 --> 00:20:16,150
>> Thank you.

459
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,720
So basically if you know if something

460
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,200
else you come up with let us know.

461
00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,080
>> So let me ask you what

462
00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,440
>> wood

463
00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,520
repair the ones that are currently in

464
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:30,880
there or replace with wood.

465
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,310
>> Okay.

466
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,200
But yet you pass

467
00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:40,480
certain buildings in this town with

468
00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,000
final windows that look

469
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,080
>> this rougher than the

470
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,600
>> this is a contributing landmark

471
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:46,960
structure.

472
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:47,919
>> Okay.

473
00:20:47,919 --> 00:20:50,080
>> Versus just a regular contributing

474
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:51,120
structure.

475
00:20:51,120 --> 00:20:53,520
>> Okay. I just want I'm not I'm just

476
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,304
trying to understand it. So

477
00:20:56,304 --> 00:20:58,630
[clears throat]

478
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,640
So it has to be wood

479
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,559
>> 100%.

480
00:21:02,559 --> 00:21:04,640
Okay. I'll work on that.

481
00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:13,909
>> Thank you.

482
00:21:13,919 --> 00:21:17,039
Okay, moving on to

483
00:21:17,039 --> 00:21:18,880
our next

484
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,960
applicant, SGHC 030-26

485
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,320
to receive a certificate of

486
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,434
appropriateness to demolish the existing

487
00:21:26,434 --> 00:21:29,520
[snorts] rear porch and construct a new

488
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,080
one with the same width but longer at

489
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,799
672 North Fourth Street.

490
00:21:34,799 --> 00:21:37,840
>> Okay. So before you you have the

491
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,559
application

492
00:21:40,559 --> 00:21:44,559
and you'll see my report there uh which

493
00:21:44,559 --> 00:21:47,679
shows in a smaller view there up at the

494
00:21:47,679 --> 00:21:50,480
top a picture of the existing porch as

495
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,720
it sits currently.

496
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,679
And then down below is a small rendering

497
00:21:55,679 --> 00:21:58,880
of what they're going to be requesting

498
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,600
to put back. As you can see there off to

499
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,280
the left hand side, you can still see

500
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,120
the entryway. Um that's still present.

501
00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:08,400
So that's showing you that it's not

502
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,400
getting any wider. It's just going to be

503
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,200
coming out 14 ft uh projecting out from

504
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:13,840
the home.

505
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,360
>> Also, um the I put some packets in front

506
00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:19,440
of you guys. Uh it was Bill Hart's old

507
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:22,400
house and George. So uh before they

508
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,640
moved, they called us out to work on the

509
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,200
porch and it has rotten rafters. So all

510
00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,720
we did was sister in because Bill and

511
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:29,840
Georgia didn't want to take the whole

512
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,360
thing down, which I recommended to take

513
00:22:31,360 --> 00:22:32,960
it down in the first place. They just

514
00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,480
didn't want to pay the money to get it

515
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,240
taken down when they were moving. So now

516
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:37,919
the homeowners now see the pictures and

517
00:22:37,919 --> 00:22:40,640
they want to take the roof off which

518
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,559
just extended another 6T. You can't see

519
00:22:42,559 --> 00:22:44,880
anything from the street and after it's

520
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,480
done you still cannot see anything from

521
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,480
the street. Um basically just want to

522
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:49,600
make it a little bit bigger that way

523
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,760
they can sit on that area and um have

524
00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,880
dinner outside.

525
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,440
like all the the layout, the roof pitch,

526
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,039
the materials, they'll all be the same.

527
00:22:59,039 --> 00:23:01,520
The only thing we're adding is screen

528
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:09,909
screening it in.

529
00:23:09,919 --> 00:23:11,600
» And this is the contractor.

530
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,520
>> I'll be [laughter]

531
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,280
>> Sorry, we hadn't got quite to all my

532
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,240
stuff, but yeah.

533
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:16,880
>> Sorry about that.

534
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,760
>> No, you're good. You're good.

535
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,000
>> I didn't hear that.

536
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,039
>> What? I didn't hear.

537
00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:24,000
>> We don't have any questions. I have no

538
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,360
question. Okay. I don't have a question

539
00:23:25,360 --> 00:23:25,840
either.

540
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,600
>> Okay.

541
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,600
>> Have a motion.

542
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,360
I make a motion approved as presented.

543
00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:33,679
>> I'll second. Okay. I have a motion and a

544
00:23:33,679 --> 00:23:35,840
second to approve the demolition of the

545
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,320
existing rear porch, replace it with a

546
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,760
new rear porch. Um, same pitch, same

547
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,640
style, but we'll be adding the screen

548
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,039
and the additional footage. All in

549
00:23:47,039 --> 00:23:48,799
favor? I.

550
00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:51,760
>> Any opposed?

551
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:52,159
I

552
00:23:52,159 --> 00:23:57,039
>> have it. Okay.

553
00:23:57,039 --> 00:23:58,880
Same house.

554
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,200
>> Yes. So, moving on.

555
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:02,080
>> Moving on.

556
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:03,360
>> Don't go [laughter] anywhere. Yeah, I'm

557
00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:04,159
not going anywhere.

558
00:24:04,159 --> 00:24:07,039
>> Same same property.

559
00:24:07,039 --> 00:24:09,440
This is now related to the garage and

560
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,600
you will see application.

561
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,480
Um, you'll see my report. You'll see the

562
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,320
picture of the garage. It is the one on

563
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,159
the left hand side of the photo, not the

564
00:24:18,159 --> 00:24:19,679
one on the right with the cat in front

565
00:24:19,679 --> 00:24:21,679
of it. Um,

566
00:24:21,679 --> 00:24:23,679
>> black cat. Yep.

567
00:24:23,679 --> 00:24:25,520
>> It didn't cross it didn't cross our path

568
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,440
yet, so we're good. Um, so at down at

569
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,159
the bottom, you'll see a smaller version

570
00:24:32,159 --> 00:24:33,760
of their their drawing. Sorry, I

571
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,279
couldn't get that any bigger on that

572
00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:38,640
particular view. Um, and then included

573
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:43,760
past that are uh photos provided um of

574
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:47,200
the existing uh garage as that sets in

575
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,440
its current condition. Then there's a

576
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:55,200
site plan of this the size garage they want to construct or requesting con

577
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,720
to construct which is a 24 by 36

578
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,600
and then a copy of their plans. Uh again

579
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,559
one is was included there was smaller uh

580
00:25:04,559 --> 00:25:06,880
the renderings of what that what that's

581
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,679
going to look like um that they're going

582
00:25:09,679 --> 00:25:12,080
to build. Here's a bigger picture. I

583
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,440
>> think he might have a full one there if

584
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,200
you

585
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,919
So, u the neighbors have the identical

586
00:25:17,919 --> 00:25:20,159
garage. They also have vinyl siding.

587
00:25:20,159 --> 00:25:22,559
It's white vinyl siding on their house.

588
00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:24,799
The neighbors is also white metal

589
00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:27,679
siding. And then the existing home has

590
00:25:27,679 --> 00:25:30,320
white vinyl siding. Our plan is to just

591
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,679
match the existing siding on the home.

592
00:25:33,679 --> 00:25:35,919
Um, also if you look at the garages from

593
00:25:35,919 --> 00:25:38,320
street view, the neighbors and the

594
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,919
garage that we're wanting to replace,

595
00:25:39,919 --> 00:25:42,240
they will look identical. Um, they'll

596
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,120
sit the same distance off the street,

597
00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:47,679
um, the homeowner already got property

598
00:25:47,679 --> 00:25:49,840
like the survey and all the setbacks are

599
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,240
good. So, we're good to put this

600
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,440
structure on the property. Um, so all

601
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,840
we're doing, uh, the homeowner wanted

602
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,600
to, uh, replace this garage now due to

603
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,440
there's no way for him to park his

604
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,520
vehicle inside the garage.

605
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,159
>> The wife can't open the garage door cuz

606
00:26:08,159 --> 00:26:10,320
it's on it's an older probably like 80

607
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,799
lb door that they have to slide, which

608
00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:14,640
every time George opened it, I think he

609
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,080
did everything he could to open it. And

610
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,360
they kept a Mini Cooper. Uh, them cars

611
00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:22,880
are very small. um and a push mower in

612
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,440
the garage. It has a dirt floor. There's

613
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,520
no wiring in the garage. There's a

614
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,440
little bit of termite damage. I did

615
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,679
didn't get any pictures of that. Um but

616
00:26:31,679 --> 00:26:33,120
we'll be going back with white vinyl

617
00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:36,240
siding, two garage doors instead of one.

618
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,279
um same 4-in gutters going around the

619
00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:42,240
structure of the garage

620
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,919
and it'll look identical to the

621
00:26:43,919 --> 00:26:46,720
neighboring property which I also on top

622
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,520
of it the neighbor um they share a

623
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,480
driveway so when one's not home or the

624
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,000
other they use the other driveway to

625
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,960
park in due to I guess lack of parking

626
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,919
spaces and um on four street it's very

627
00:26:59,919 --> 00:27:02,480
well known to go very over the speed

628
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,919
limit so It's

629
00:27:05,919 --> 00:27:08,320
be awesome if we could put a twocar

630
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,480
garage up.

631
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,240
>> What are the chances you get them to put

632
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,760
a twocar carport up?

633
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:17,600
>> Uh

634
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,240
that probably not very highly. Just uh

635
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,559
they have a expensive truck. They're

636
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:23,840
they got another vehicle they're

637
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,600
purchasing. And then they're also right

638
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,720
now they're um paying for storage over

639
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,840
at uh PJ's. Um they're storing some

640
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,600
stuff in there due to just the lack of

641
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,520
space in the garage now.

642
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,600
>> Um right now they're on the exterior of

643
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,240
the garage. It's just like cement board,

644
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,240
>> but it it's like breaking apart, falling

645
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:44,480
off the back of the garage. Um like I

646
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,559
said, there's no electric. There's

647
00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:49,039
rotten wood inside of it.

648
00:27:49,039 --> 00:27:50,480
>> Mhm.

649
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,360
>> Yeah. So like they'd pull in. I was

650
00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:54,559
trying to see the

651
00:27:54,559 --> 00:27:57,360
>> I uh I gave some of you a packet uh to

652
00:27:57,360 --> 00:27:59,360
kind of see what the truck looks like in

653
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:01,600
front of the garage.

654
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,200
>> So, it's 9 foot 1 and 1/2

655
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,679
>> and it'll be white garage doors to match

656
00:28:07,679 --> 00:28:10,399
the neighboring um white siding to match

657
00:28:10,399 --> 00:28:13,440
the existing house. Same roof pitch just

658
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:19,590
a little bit wider.

659
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:24,000
And then uh also electric ran to the

660
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,520
garage so they can have lights and the

661
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,679
garage door can open.

662
00:28:27,679 --> 00:28:28,000
I thought

663
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,520
>> they had electric in the garage

664
00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,120
>> there. Yeah, there's no electric.

665
00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:31,440
>> No.

666
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,880
Well,

667
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,159
>> it's odd that they have a light above

668
00:28:34,159 --> 00:28:34,799
the door then.

669
00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:38,480
>> That's a motion the battery operated.

670
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:48,870
>> Okay.

671
00:28:48,880 --> 00:29:00,789
I bet it was going to rain

672
00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:03,360
along that street. Um, there's also I

673
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,279
think every house on that street has a

674
00:29:05,279 --> 00:29:08,399
twocar garage identical to the detached

675
00:29:08,399 --> 00:29:10,720
garage that you guys will be looking at.

676
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,200
>> My issue isn't with the design. I'm

677
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,640
concerned that it's a contributing

678
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,080
structure that we're wanting to tear

679
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:21,510
down.

680
00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,039
» Yeah. The garage.

681
00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:25,200
>> Yeah. It's a contributing structure.

682
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,600
>> Yeah. Especially the the way that it's

683
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,360
constructed, the siding, the the the

684
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,039
standing seam roof.

685
00:29:33,039 --> 00:29:35,360
>> There's not a the house has a it's not a

686
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,200
standing seam. It's ribbed.

687
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,360
>> The house does the garage. It's not

688
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,240
standing seam.

689
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,600
>> Watch. It's

690
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,000
>> It's that barn metal barn, right?

691
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,279
>> I mean, we can go We can go back with

692
00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:49,440
the barn metal in the new garage, too.

693
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:54,470
>> Just making a point.

694
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,399
» The main thing is just the homers. They

695
00:29:56,399 --> 00:29:58,240
can't they're not like they really can't

696
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,960
use it. They have a push mower inside. I

697
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,520
think uh George and Bill along, they had

698
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,440
the exact same thing. just a Mini

699
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,919
Cooper, which not everybody has that

700
00:30:07,919 --> 00:30:16,389
small of a car.

701
00:30:16,399 --> 00:30:19,120
» And they're absolutely opposed to no

702
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,880
carport on the other side.

703
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,880
>> No.

704
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,200
>> I just I just don't see a sense in

705
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,159
taking contributing structure

706
00:30:28,159 --> 00:30:28,960
that's used basically [clears throat]

707
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,279
for storage and destroying it.

708
00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:32,799
>> They they don't really you can't really

709
00:30:32,799 --> 00:30:34,399
store anything in there. It's and it has

710
00:30:34,399 --> 00:30:36,880
a dirt floor

711
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,720
>> that can be modified.

712
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,830
>> Yeah.

713
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,679
» But what about parking vehicles inside

714
00:30:43,679 --> 00:30:45,200
of it?

715
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,679
>> Well, that's why how many of us park in

716
00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:51,279
our driveways now?

717
00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:53,840
>> I have a carport in my yard also for my

718
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,200
camper. Not saying

719
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,256
>> it wouldn't fit in the garage.

720
00:30:58,256 --> 00:31:00,000
>> [clears throat]

721
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,440
>> That's that's I mean kind of why I was

722
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:08,000
saying you know the uh doing like if they would do not

723
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,840
even if you could even possibly possibly

724
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,760
do two of them you come off the front or

725
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,640
even off the side with like the carport

726
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,559
>> they share a driveway so you have about

727
00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:18,799
15 ft until you the driveways come

728
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:19,440
together.

729
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,320
>> Yeah I see that. Yeah, I see they'd be

730
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:30,710
from the aerial view.

731
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,360
I agree with Tommy s

732
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,640
like to see that especially that you

733
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,080
know the only one left on the street.

734
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,720
>> Yeah, I mean we can't

735
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:39,919
>> because of the guidelines.

736
00:31:39,919 --> 00:31:50,389
>> Well, right.

737
00:31:50,399 --> 00:31:55,590
So they're not open to any modification.

738
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,240
» Well, then I think that just we're at an

739
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,039
end.

740
00:32:01,039 --> 00:32:05,440
>> Any further discussion before we

741
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,039
make a motion to deny?

742
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:08,159
>> I'll second.

743
00:32:08,159 --> 00:32:10,159
>> Okay. I have a motion and a second to

744
00:32:10,159 --> 00:32:12,880
deny the certificate to demolish the

745
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,039
existing garage and replace it with the

746
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:17,840
larger garage at 672 North Fourth. All

747
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,200
in favor?

748
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,190
>> I. Any opposed?

749
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,559
» There you have it.

750
00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:26,240
>> There's uh nothing that you guys can do

751
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,840
about it, but they said that if they

752
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,919
didn't record, they're just going to go

753
00:32:29,919 --> 00:32:31,360
ahead and sell the place. So, I don't

754
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,200
know if they're going to see progress

755
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,200
with the porch. I'll reach out to them,

756
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,120
let you know, and see what they want to

757
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:37,840
do from there.

758
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:38,240
>> Okay.

759
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,320
Yeah. So, just let us know so we

760
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,840
can know how to proceed building

761
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,200
codewise. Okay.

762
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:53,590
>> Okay. Thank you.

763
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,240
Okay,

764
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,559
hold on. Sorry, I need to I didn't flip

765
00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:02,950
fast enough. [laughter]

766
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,200
Okay, moving on to our next certificate.

767
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,559
SGHC 032-26

768
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:11,760
to receive a certificate of

769
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,080
appropriateness to demolish an existing

770
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,799
garage to make room for an addition to

771
00:33:16,799 --> 00:33:21,120
the existing home at 350 Robert Street.

772
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:23,360
>> Okay. So, in your packet, you'll have an

773
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,039
application.

774
00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:26,559
Um, I know this is getting very

775
00:33:26,559 --> 00:33:28,908
repetitive here. And you'll

776
00:33:28,908 --> 00:33:30,960
[clears throat] have my report. Um, you

777
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,640
can see a a colored picture of the

778
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,080
garage with the car in front of it

779
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,919
there. Um, and then down below is the

780
00:33:39,919 --> 00:33:41,919
overhead view of the property. It's kind

781
00:33:41,919 --> 00:33:44,159
of hard to see the garage there. Even if

782
00:33:44,159 --> 00:33:45,679
I zoomed in, you really can't cuz the

783
00:33:45,679 --> 00:33:49,360
trees in the way. Um, also in your

784
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,600
packet again, bigger picture of the one

785
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,720
that was on my report. Uh, also are

786
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,840
these are black and white pictures.

787
00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,279
They looked better on the computer

788
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:00,720
screen than they did when we printed

789
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,640
them out. I tried lighting them up as

790
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,880
much as I could. Um, this is a more

791
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:10,240
current picture than than the ones that the one that I had off Google

792
00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:14,639
Earth. Um, so what they're requesting

793
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:17,919
again is to demolish this garage. Um,

794
00:34:17,919 --> 00:34:19,359
and the reason they're going to demolish

795
00:34:19,359 --> 00:34:21,520
this garage, they want, and that's the

796
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,000
next item on the agenda. Um, they're

797
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:25,760
wanting to add on to the back part of

798
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,159
the home. They can't do that with that

799
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:30,320
garage there. They can't add on to the

800
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,710
home with the garage in place.

801
00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:37,919
and the people doing the work,

802
00:34:37,919 --> 00:34:39,440
construction work, are are here to

803
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,919
answer any questions uh that that we may

804
00:34:41,919 --> 00:34:49,430
have uh for them.

805
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:50,720
» They're coming straight off the back of

806
00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:51,520
the house.

807
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:52,240
>> Pardon me?

808
00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:53,280
>> Coming straight off the back of the

809
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:53,679
house?

810
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:55,359
>> Yes, sir.

811
00:34:55,359 --> 00:34:57,839
>> Yeah. Where the existing porch is, it's

812
00:34:57,839 --> 00:35:01,280
going to be the width of the house. And

813
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:04,640
then I believe it's 25 ft or

814
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,400
>> that's not getting any wider.

815
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:07,520
>> No, it is not.

816
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,480
>> Okay.

817
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,320
>> And and no porch steps or anything

818
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:13,119
coming off the side of it

819
00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:15,920
of of the garage.

820
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:16,880
>> The garage

821
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:18,160
>> of the house when you extend it. Nothing

822
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,680
come off to either side, just to the

823
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,200
back. She's wanting to have wood steps

824
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,280
come down to access the driveway off to

825
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,520
I mean as you're going out then to the

826
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,280
left. That would be the back of the

827
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:31,839
house.

828
00:35:31,839 --> 00:35:34,079
>> And that's this this square floor plan.

829
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:34,880
>> Yes, sir.

830
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:39,990
>> Thank you.

831
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,599
Do we know the current distance from

832
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:44,320
>> Looks like about

833
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,760
>> the house to the I mean yeah cuz looking

834
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,359
at this picture it looks like it there's

835
00:35:47,359 --> 00:35:47,680
a

836
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,240
>> it

837
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:50,880
yeah um

838
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,119
>> it it ends up being probably about 2 and

839
00:35:53,119 --> 00:35:56,400
1/2 ft. Part of the issue is is to get

840
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,920
any of the excavators or anything back

841
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:04,640
there. it is in the way to do any to add

842
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:09,119
on or to do the next item.

843
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:12,480
And as we run into, well, it's not in

844
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,960
very good shape, but it's also not

845
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,280
usable for the size of it and whatnot.

846
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,040
>> They can't get equipment in on the other

847
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,720
side of the house.

848
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:26,079
>> It's not their property.

849
00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:29,040
>> I don't believe so. or when I talked to

850
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,200
Eddie Fischer, Eddie Fischer said he

851
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,440
could not go on that side. How whatever

852
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,280
for whatever reasons, that's exactly

853
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,160
what he said.

854
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,000
>> It may be higher up elevation that they

855
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,839
can get up. So, what they're asking is

856
00:36:39,839 --> 00:36:41,520
if you're facing the house on the right

857
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:46,160
hand side, there's let's say 35 ft or so

858
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,440
of of property there. Is there is there

859
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,440
an elevation difference?

860
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:52,720
>> It doesn't look like you can see the

861
00:36:52,720 --> 00:36:54,240
vehicle in this tree. Yeah, that's what

862
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:56,000
I was looking at and I drove by the

863
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,320
other day and I just didn't curve.

864
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,880
>> I didn't get a chance to go by this. Did

865
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,240
you get to see this?

866
00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:07,119
The other thing um so so that we're all

867
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:08,480
aware and I know we're kind of putting

868
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,040
these together because if one doesn't

869
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,240
happen the other one kind of so um not

870
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:18,079
to jump ahead but um if they were to

871
00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:21,680
just add on to the house and leave that

872
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,200
uh structure there, they would then have

873
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,040
to go for a variance because I would

874
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,520
have to deny that request to construct

875
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:32,800
that house addition because the existing

876
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,400
garage would then be in the sidey yard

877
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,560
which is not allowed by zoning

878
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,800
requirements.

879
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,560
>> And also

880
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,480
the garage would now have to meet the

881
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,800
setbacks of the house

882
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,720
>> for zoning requirements because it's

883
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:48,720
within 10 ft of the house. So it

884
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:50,800
wouldn't. So they would have to then get

885
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,200
a variance for that. I'm not saying that

886
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,960
for I'm just throwing it out there that

887
00:37:54,960 --> 00:38:00,630
that's what the requirements would be.

888
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,079
I was fine with the addition on the back

889
00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:03,119
of the house. Pardon me.

890
00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:04,079
>> That's what I was finding with the

891
00:38:04,079 --> 00:38:05,976
addition on the back of the house.

892
00:38:05,976 --> 00:38:10,150
[laughter]

893
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:10,320
I

894
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:11,040
>> was looking.

895
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,760
>> Is it on a foundation or a slab for the

896
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,920
garage?

897
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,640
>> It is not on a found. I mean I um It's

898
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:19,119
not

899
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:20,560
>> tell because there's so much junk in

900
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,160
there.

901
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,400
>> I mean sometimes from the outside you

902
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,400
can tell. I I I drove by and I couldn't

903
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:26,880
get a good

904
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,000
>> I couldn't either. I wasn't going to

905
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,280
walk up there, but

906
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,521
>> I do the binoculars doing this watching.

907
00:38:31,521 --> 00:38:31,920
[laughter]

908
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,359
>> That's not creepy at all.

909
00:38:33,359 --> 00:38:36,160
>> No, I was standing outside the

910
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,599
>> I didn't tell them that everybody was

911
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:38,960
going to be doing that, but I figured

912
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:40,079
that that was the case. [laughter]

913
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:42,320
>> Well, I mean, some do, some don't. I

914
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,200
always do. Just

915
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,320
>> I I would,

916
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,640
>> you know,

917
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,520
>> there is no slab

918
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,160
and answer to the question.

919
00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:53,920
>> Okay. So, it's just a flooding.

920
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,839
>> Yeah, it's just on a flooding system.

921
00:38:55,839 --> 00:39:00,390
Yeah.

922
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,960
Gosh,

923
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,760
>> I don't know any kind of stuff because

924
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,240
>> I know

925
00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:09,680
>> because the garage was built at

926
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,280
approximately the same time as another

927
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:12,400
contributing structure,

928
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,880
>> right? Yeah. So there's this kind of

929
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,359
like

930
00:39:15,359 --> 00:39:16,880
>> well I mean honestly if I could pick it

931
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,480
up and then move it for the construction

932
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:22,960
and then pop it back down because I mean

933
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:24,800
I have even thought about the the other

934
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,520
issue is is by virtue of the way the

935
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:34,720
roof line goes then you're right at the window level for that one side. And

936
00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:36,320
I had even thought that, you know, I

937
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:37,599
mean, even if you could make something

938
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:39,920
that's shorter that's looking similar to

939
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,400
it off to that side to where maybe

940
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,440
you've got the steps that are covered or

941
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,920
the steps that are going down into the

942
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,240
structure, but given the fact of where

943
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:55,520
it's at and how it is, it definitely

944
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,440
impedes

945
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:59,920
um,

946
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:04,310
you know, the the addition

947
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:08,320
and she has had a water situation in her

948
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,839
ba her the current basement. And the

949
00:40:11,839 --> 00:40:13,520
other thing that I was concerned about,

950
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:14,880
well, I mean, obviously if you do

951
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,720
guttering and whatnot, but I didn't want

952
00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:19,200
the additional water situation between

953
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,400
the two of those.

954
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:31,589
I'm turning it right over here.

955
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:37,190
Is this the house?

956
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,560
existing house is here.

957
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:39,839
>> This Okay. Yeah. Okay. Well, there it

958
00:40:39,839 --> 00:40:48,470
is. Never mind. I see it now.

959
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,560
» Well, so

960
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,560
variance would have to extend past the

961
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:57,760
full length of the garage.

962
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:01,760
>> Yeah. The variance would be simply to

963
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,720
allow the structure to remain in place

964
00:41:04,720 --> 00:41:11,200
and the hardship would be the the historical

965
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,000
>> Mhm.

966
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,880
>> consideration of the structure.

967
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,680
What I can't guarantee is Well, I

968
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,200
haven't had that here yet, so I don't

969
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,079
know what the right

970
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:25,098
>> what the press that that is set.

971
00:41:25,098 --> 00:41:27,119
[laughter]

972
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:31,520
I found another sample.

973
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:33,599
This is the 350.

974
00:41:33,599 --> 00:41:34,880
>> Oh, thank God.

975
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:37,040
>> It's It's okay cuz I kept looking at I

976
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,000
was fling back and forth and I'm like,

977
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,280
"Wait a minute." No. Okay.

978
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,030
>> Okay. Okay.

979
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,829
» What happened? I get in a hurry.

980
00:41:47,839 --> 00:41:58,150
I'll fix it.

981
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,440
Yeah. So on my report there uh where the

982
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,839
request is listed uh I got the address

983
00:42:03,839 --> 00:42:06,000
right at correct at the top but I

984
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,480
brought it from the one previous so it

985
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,599
will say 350 Roberts

986
00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:14,079
>> the one for the additions that way also.

987
00:42:14,079 --> 00:42:16,560
>> Yeah. Yeah. They're both I brought them

988
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:17,680
both from the same thing. So they're

989
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,319
going to be the [laughter] same way.

990
00:42:20,319 --> 00:42:21,680
I was like, "Wait a minute. Am I on the

991
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,359
wrong

992
00:42:23,359 --> 00:42:25,520
covered by the letters?"

993
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,760
>> That's what I was thinking. So, I'm just

994
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,119
wondering how deep

995
00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:30,960
>> you don't know how deep that existing

996
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,040
garage is, do you?

997
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,119
>> I should have measured it. I believe

998
00:42:35,119 --> 00:42:37,200
that it is around

999
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,160
>> 24. Oh, no. It's not even It's not that

1000
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,000
long. It's I mean, I don't even I'm not

1001
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,880
even 100%. A car might be able to fit in

1002
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,240
it lengthwise. So, it's definitely not a

1003
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:58,309
truck. I'm I'm going to say 12 ft long.

1004
00:42:58,319 --> 00:42:59,599
» I mean, I know we can do with a

1005
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:06,150
landmark, but I'm also pressing in here.

1006
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,760
» I see what you're saying. Would you be

1007
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:08,640
able to do that?

1008
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,440
>> That's I don't know cuz it's on footing,

1009
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,680
not a true bound. was talking about

1010
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:15,359
being able to raise it up and just move

1011
00:43:15,359 --> 00:43:17,359
it back,

1012
00:43:17,359 --> 00:43:22,160
but then there's going to be a bed here.

1013
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,960
>> How much room behind the the shed to the

1014
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,800
end of the edge of the property line

1015
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:27,760
behind it?

1016
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,560
>> I think that would be

1017
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,599
sure looks like it's I think this is the

1018
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:34,880
garage.

1019
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:40,230
>> I feel like this is the garage.

1020
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:41,680
That's the option because

1021
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,119
>> yeah, as long as we're 10 ft away from

1022
00:43:43,119 --> 00:43:44,400
the hole like

1023
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:44,880
>> Okay.

1024
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:50,640
>> like 5T the actual side of the room.

1025
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,880
>> Especially if it's only on my head.

1026
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:53,440
>> Yeah. [snorts]

1027
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,079
>> No, that's why I said in my head this

1028
00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:57,920
>> Yeah. If it's not on a slab, man. They

1029
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,760
didn't do [clears throat] all the

1030
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,599
grinders were not on any kind of a slab

1031
00:44:01,599 --> 00:44:03,200
or anything. Sometimes they're just set

1032
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:03,839
right on.

1033
00:44:03,839 --> 00:44:06,560
>> I would just had a slab or or a simple

1034
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,119
port footing. They just set bolted down.

1035
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:10,720
That's most of them are that way that

1036
00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:13,920
are that style. Yeah. And so it's

1037
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,000
>> it's almost a port the original portable

1038
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:16,800
building most.

1039
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:18,240
>> I mean I'm not married to this. This is

1040
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:20,640
just a hey,

1041
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:21,280
>> right?

1042
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,680
>> We could ask for a clarification if that

1043
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,440
could come out. They can look into it

1044
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:26,480
and they may come back.

1045
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:30,000
>> Come out somewhere. Right. Was it

1046
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:37,030
come out right here actually?

1047
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,160
» Yeah. almost worked.

1048
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,960
>> I would prefer that than this. I'm just

1049
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,200
saying it

1050
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,200
>> comes down to it.

1051
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:52,550
>> I see it. Probably not that

1052
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,829
problem.

1053
00:44:55,839 --> 00:44:59,599
Is there a possibility that we could

1054
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:02,079
ask the homeowner to look into the

1055
00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:05,200
possibil feasibility of moving that if

1056
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:06,640
it's capable of being moved and then

1057
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:08,640
come back and if that fits and can be

1058
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,240
moved to another area of the property

1059
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:14,351
to be to allow for the construction

1060
00:45:14,351 --> 00:45:16,550
[clears throat]

1061
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,599
that we can get take care of both things

1062
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:21,680
keep you a small storage garage

1063
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:23,839
>> in a different location and get your

1064
00:45:23,839 --> 00:45:24,720
building

1065
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:27,359
>> okay So my my next question is and I

1066
00:45:27,359 --> 00:45:29,599
know that he was talking about the h the

1067
00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:33,359
proximity to the house then uh would

1068
00:45:33,359 --> 00:45:36,160
there be a specific spot that is

1069
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,160
recommended by the committee?

1070
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,280
>> Straight back straight back.

1071
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:43,599
>> Yeah. As long as it's 5 ft to not have

1072
00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:47,119
to go through any additional meetings,

1073
00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:49,760
variances or anything like that. You

1074
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,599
would have to be at least 5t off the

1075
00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:53,760
property line, which should be easy

1076
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,560
enough to meet at that location, and be

1077
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,760
10 feet, no closer than 10 ft to the

1078
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,839
wall of the house, not the e, but the

1079
00:46:01,839 --> 00:46:03,599
wall of the house.

1080
00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:04,560
>> Okay.

1081
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,640
>> So, essentially, for all intents

1082
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:09,599
purposes, scoot it back and over just a

1083
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:11,520
little bit. And where that measurement

1084
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,599
starts is right at the back of that

1085
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:15,920
house. So, from from there, you measure

1086
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:17,200
10 ft and

1087
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,000
>> the addition.

1088
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:18,319
>> Yes.

1089
00:46:18,319 --> 00:46:19,859
>> Yeah. 10 ft from the addition and 5 ft

1090
00:46:19,859 --> 00:46:21,599
[clears throat] from the property line.

1091
00:46:21,599 --> 00:46:23,680
>> I'm sure she would not be opposed to

1092
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,440
>> and that would save a wonderful building

1093
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,160
and get get the addition built at the

1094
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:28,720
same time.

1095
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:30,480
>> Okay. I I I'm I'm

1096
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,800
>> unless there you have a better

1097
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,319
alternative.

1098
00:46:34,319 --> 00:46:36,560
>> I mean,

1099
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,000
unless they could come up with a way to

1100
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,400
just, you know, just get the bearings,

1101
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,800
leave the garage where it's at

1102
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,440
>> is what I'm saying. But I'm I look for

1103
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:46,640
the stairs come out

1104
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,200
>> a little L and stuff. Well, the steps

1105
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,720
are coming out 20 ft back from the

1106
00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:54,000
existing back. So, I think it's still

1107
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,640
going to come out probably there at the

1108
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,240
side of the house or it'll be at the

1109
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:00,960
side in the side of the garage from what

1110
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,319
I'm just looking at the pictures,

1111
00:47:02,319 --> 00:47:02,800
>> right?

1112
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,630
>> You know,

1113
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,640
» you mean as far as the drawings?

1114
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,880
>> Yeah, I was I was just going by this.

1115
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,640
You know, these stairs here. Here's the

1116
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,079
back of the existing house.

1117
00:47:14,079 --> 00:47:15,920
>> Yes. Your steps come out come out the

1118
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,000
side, but you're still 20 ft back right

1119
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,800
here.

1120
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,200
>> This

1121
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,880
No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's

1122
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,079
not. I'm sorry.

1123
00:47:26,079 --> 00:47:26,720
>> No, it's not.

1124
00:47:26,720 --> 00:47:28,880
>> Yeah. Here's the existing driveway. And

1125
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,200
the garage sits right in through here.

1126
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,280
>> I was just I was looking at this here

1127
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,920
and I for some reason I think there was

1128
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,319
extension line here. So, no, that would

1129
00:47:38,319 --> 00:47:39,359
actually maybe work.

1130
00:47:39,359 --> 00:47:40,880
>> Oh, yeah. Then that would work because

1131
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,000
then the stairs would

1132
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,240
>> step would probably come up right here.

1133
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:45,359
That's correct.

1134
00:47:45,359 --> 00:47:50,480
>> So that could be a better option for

1135
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,400
>> move in the garage. She just have to do

1136
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,319
the get a see if they can get a variance

1137
00:47:54,319 --> 00:47:55,440
which I really don't think they would

1138
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,520
have a problem with honestly but you

1139
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:57,920
never know.

1140
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,400
>> It it it would if if it's coming as a

1141
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,079
recommendation from

1142
00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:03,599
>> from us the commission.

1143
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:05,520
>> Yeah. Then that would resolve it tonight

1144
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,560
if we wanted it. If in fact I think that

1145
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,319
and and I'm just putting this out here

1146
00:48:10,319 --> 00:48:13,760
because if I can

1147
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,880
I think she would prefer moving it back

1148
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,960
if it's possible

1149
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,280
>> be as opposed to having it you know like

1150
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,359
I said yeah right beside it because then

1151
00:48:23,359 --> 00:48:25,280
the view is going to be the roof.

1152
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:26,000
>> Sure.

1153
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:29,119
>> So I mean I can go back and ask her but

1154
00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:32,800
it it would be my opinion based on her

1155
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:33,599
>> right

1156
00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:35,200
>> and what they're what they're hoping

1157
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,750
for. Gotcha.

1158
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,280
» Nobody knows of any reason in the

1159
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,000
guidelines that we can't, right?

1160
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,800
>> Yeah. I've gone through seen anything

1161
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,960
>> because the location is not a

1162
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,079
>> Yeah.

1163
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:53,119
>> You know, it's not it's not an event or

1164
00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:55,200
you know something, but the property

1165
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:56,880
happened right there. So

1166
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,760
>> yeah,

1167
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,760
>> I'm just hypothetically throwing this

1168
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,520
out here and I'm not even adding it into

1169
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,559
the mix just for my own personal

1170
00:49:06,559 --> 00:49:08,000
knowledge since we're talking about

1171
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,680
moving it or something like that and you

1172
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:12,720
we're talking about the variances.

1173
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:16,640
If in fact it could hypothetically move

1174
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:18,400
forward to where they could walk out of

1175
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,559
the addition and into it, which that's

1176
00:49:20,559 --> 00:49:22,640
not possible based on whatever's

1177
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,000
happening. Would that be I mean,

1178
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:27,280
not that I'm going to run into this

1179
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:28,640
again at some point in time, [laughter]

1180
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,040
but I'm just saying. So I I I mean I

1181
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,200
guess there is some flexibility as long

1182
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,800
as the structure stays on the property

1183
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,040
within

1184
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:39,920
>> an appropriate

1185
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:40,960
>> set back from the house

1186
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,760
>> because the way lots are designed here.

1187
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,680
It's super common for this time period

1188
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,480
to see the garage right where it is or

1189
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,720
all the corner cuz we're transitioning

1190
00:49:50,720 --> 00:49:52,800
from like carriage houses into garages

1191
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:53,920
at this time. Correct.

1192
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,079
>> So it still fit it fits the sight line,

1193
00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:57,119
etc.

1194
00:49:57,119 --> 00:49:58,960
If it weren't this perfect storm, it

1195
00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,640
would probably be a no. It just so

1196
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,200
happens that for this situation, moving

1197
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:04,000
it backwards.

1198
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,599
>> Okay. Then I I would have to say that

1199
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:07,680
she would be

1200
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,200
very willing to do that.

1201
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,280
>> To answer your variance question though,

1202
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:14,400
typically speaking, to obtain a variance

1203
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,000
and and receive a variance, it's not

1204
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,079
just a matter of, you know, you you

1205
00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:19,920
approach a commission like this and ask

1206
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,079
them for a variance and they sit and

1207
00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:23,760
decide, do we want to allow it or not?

1208
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,240
It's can this be done legally anywhere

1209
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:28,640
else on the property?

1210
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,000
And if in this case, let's just use this

1211
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,480
case. If we were moving it forward, does

1212
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,760
that make its current condition worse?

1213
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:38,319
>> Gotcha.

1214
00:50:38,319 --> 00:50:41,839
>> Or equal. So if it's an equal condition,

1215
00:50:41,839 --> 00:50:43,520
so it's not like moving in front of the

1216
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,160
house. Um, it's still meeting the front

1217
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,720
yard setback, let's say. So it's still

1218
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:50,559
meeting it's still kind of in line with

1219
00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:52,559
where it was. it's not making the

1220
00:50:52,559 --> 00:50:56,000
condition worse. Um, and it would

1221
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,880
receive a recommendation from this

1222
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,800
commission

1223
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,160
to save that structure, then I would say

1224
00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,720
that's a good case for various. I can't

1225
00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:08,720
by any means tell you that it's going to

1226
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:09,760
get approved,

1227
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,160
>> but that would be a good case for that.

1228
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,200
Uh, regardless of of the situation, you

1229
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,280
always have to look at in in when you're

1230
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,800
doing that, can I do this anywhere else?

1231
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,880
So a good example that if if the

1232
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,720
property dropped straight off once it

1233
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:26,400
went to the back you can't build it

1234
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:27,359
there without

1235
00:51:27,359 --> 00:51:27,839
>> right

1236
00:51:27,839 --> 00:51:30,720
>> some massive amount of uh construction.

1237
00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:32,720
So those would be good reasons to great

1238
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:33,440
variances.

1239
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:40,069
>> Excellent. Okay

1240
00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:43,190
pictures.

1241
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,200
» Do we have any other questions?

1242
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,119
>> I don't know.

1243
00:51:47,119 --> 00:51:50,319
So we just so

1244
00:51:50,319 --> 00:51:53,839
just table it for a a relication when

1245
00:51:53,839 --> 00:51:55,680
they make that decision. So

1246
00:51:55,680 --> 00:52:00,480
>> I would I can I go ahead and say that would be fine.

1247
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,240
>> I'm sure that she you know I'm sure that

1248
00:52:02,240 --> 00:52:05,359
she's she wants the addition and I'm

1249
00:52:05,359 --> 00:52:08,240
sure that you know that would be

1250
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:09,440
>> I mean just cuz we approve it doesn't

1251
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:10,079
mean she

1252
00:52:10,079 --> 00:52:13,200
>> we got to approve it with the with the

1253
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,200
with that being moved before the

1254
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:16,319
construction starts on the other

1255
00:52:16,319 --> 00:52:18,160
portion. whatever

1256
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,440
condition.

1257
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,440
>> Can we can als she can also leave it

1258
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:22,880
where it's at and do the addition, but

1259
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:24,240
you just have a little narrow.

1260
00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:24,880
>> Yep. So,

1261
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:25,599
>> right.

1262
00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:27,440
>> Yep.

1263
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,720
>> So, okay. So,

1264
00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:33,920
>> basically, we can go ahead and approve,

1265
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:35,920
which I I'd go ahead and uh make a

1266
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:41,510
motion to approve uh the addition.

1267
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,520
» So, you want you want to hit the

1268
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:44,960
demolition one first since that's what

1269
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:51,040
we're on. Okay. I said, "Well, deny the demolition and approve the

1270
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:51,839
construction."

1271
00:52:51,839 --> 00:52:52,319
>> Okay.

1272
00:52:52,319 --> 00:52:55,680
>> Yeah. Approve the construction with the

1273
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,870
>> caveat.

1274
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:01,760
I move that we deny the certificate of

1275
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,440
appropriateness for the demolition of

1276
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:04,720
the existing garage.

1277
00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:06,960
>> Second. Okay.

1278
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,200
>> Okay. I have a motion and a second to

1279
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:11,599
deny the certificate of appropriateness

1280
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:16,240
to demolish the existing garage at 350

1281
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:18,640
Robert Street.

1282
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,160
All in favor? I

1283
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,319
>> I

1284
00:53:22,319 --> 00:53:24,960
have it. I'm sorry you didn't ask for

1285
00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,839
posts or there's else here. [laughter]

1286
00:53:27,839 --> 00:53:29,119
>> I got ahead.

1287
00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:30,559
>> Any post?

1288
00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:31,520
>> Eyes have it now.

1289
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,200
>> Okay. All right. Moving on to SGHC

1290
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:36,880
033-26

1291
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,240
to receive a certificate of

1292
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:41,280
appropriateness to construct an addition

1293
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,240
to the rear of the existing home at 350

1294
00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:46,240
Robert Street.

1295
00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:48,720
I'll make a motion to approve the

1296
00:53:48,720 --> 00:53:52,559
addition of the uh rear of the house

1297
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:55,200
Robert Street

1298
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,160
>> with with

1299
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,200
>> with

1300
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,119
>> Yeah, with that

1301
00:53:59,119 --> 00:54:00,160
>> with

1302
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,960
>> So, are we providing both options?

1303
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:04,480
>> I I think so. I think she's

1304
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,240
>> I just think with the approval of of the

1305
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:09,920
site plan by by city hall, whichever

1306
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,359
those that they approve, as long as the

1307
00:54:11,359 --> 00:54:13,040
house is moved, it's

1308
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,280
>> as long as as long as Yeah.

1309
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,119
>> Okay. So with the addendum,

1310
00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:17,839
>> okay,

1311
00:54:17,839 --> 00:54:23,760
>> that either the garage be moved back

1312
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:24,319
>> say

1313
00:54:24,319 --> 00:54:27,920
>> to the 10 ft

1314
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,359
>> measurement

1315
00:54:29,359 --> 00:54:30,559
>> or

1316
00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:32,960
>> with approval of a variance, it can stay

1317
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,200
in its current location.

1318
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,040
>> Yes.

1319
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,280
with the addition to be built around it,

1320
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:45,990
near it, next to it, adjacent [laughter]

1321
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,079
» Okay.

1322
00:54:48,079 --> 00:54:51,599
I have a motion to approve the

1323
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:53,040
certificate of appropriateness to

1324
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,680
construct the addition to the rear of

1325
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,599
the home

1326
00:54:57,599 --> 00:54:59,928
with

1327
00:54:59,928 --> 00:55:02,079
[laughter] the exception to either move

1328
00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:04,160
the garage

1329
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:06,800
back into the yard further to be able to

1330
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:10,960
meet the required measurements or

1331
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:12,800
based on city approval to get the

1332
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,760
variance to leave the garage in its

1333
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:17,040
current position.

1334
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,319
and then build the addition alongside

1335
00:55:20,319 --> 00:55:21,119
it.

1336
00:55:21,119 --> 00:55:21,680
>> Okay,

1337
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,200
>> that's what I got.

1338
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,230
>> I got that. I got that. [laughter]

1339
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:28,480
» I have a second.

1340
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:29,359
>> I'll second [laughter]

1341
00:55:29,359 --> 00:55:32,880
motion and a second. All in favor?

1342
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,040
>> I Any opposed?

1343
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:38,950
>> The eyes have it.

1344
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:41,193
» That's that's a for everybody.

1345
00:55:41,193 --> 00:55:42,640
[laughter]

1346
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,000
>> Okay. Thank you everybody.

1347
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:49,349
>> Thank you.

1348
00:55:49,359 --> 00:55:51,040
Okay, moving on to administrative

1349
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:52,000
approvals.

1350
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,589
>> I have none.

1351
00:55:55,599 --> 00:56:02,390
» Any other business?

1352
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,720
» Oh, okay. So, [clears throat] you guys

1353
00:56:04,720 --> 00:56:07,520
remember when when

1354
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:13,920
the ship they got a hold of us? Ed for our input on the fourth street

1355
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,119
bridge.

1356
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:18,240
They've sent me um an email asking me

1357
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:22,400
also for our input on the Main Street

1358
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:25,359
Bridge North Gabri. I'm sorry. I said,

1359
00:56:25,359 --> 00:56:30,160
"Yeah, North Main." So, I got I have I

1360
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:31,520
don't know if you guys ever saw the

1361
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:32,880
letter. I think Bill sent it out to

1362
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,559
everybody. Um

1363
00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:36,240
>> I actually have a I found a copy of

1364
00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:39,520
that. I got copies of um I was just

1365
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,400
going to kind of go ahead and

1366
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,960
kind of go off of what he wrote from

1367
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:49,599
that and quick so you guys all see it

1368
00:56:49,599 --> 00:56:50,559
there.

1369
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:51,520
>> Thank you.

1370
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:51,839
>> Sure.

1371
00:56:51,839 --> 00:56:52,960
>> Well, that was the letter that Bill

1372
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:54,319
wrote.

1373
00:56:54,319 --> 00:56:55,839
>> He kind of wrote as a

1374
00:56:55,839 --> 00:56:57,359
>> Yeah, Bill wrote it and then he put all

1375
00:56:57,359 --> 00:56:58,799
of us

1376
00:56:58,799 --> 00:57:01,680
>> um I think pretty much go with the same

1377
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,640
format pretty much the same thing. Um,

1378
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,720
it was built in 1940, by the way.

1379
00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:10,079
>> And it was in this guy's report and I

1380
00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:11,920
knew it, but I couldn't I couldn't get

1381
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,599
into it. That's why I asked you about

1382
00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:14,319
it.

1383
00:57:14,319 --> 00:57:23,349
>> Um, but anyways, um, so there is a typo.

1384
00:57:23,359 --> 00:57:25,920
» I I just on this document, uh, second

1385
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:31,109
paragraph, US highway system.

1386
00:57:31,119 --> 00:57:34,319
Well, you know, it is what it is. But,

1387
00:57:34,319 --> 00:57:36,160
um,

1388
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,880
we'll we'll change that. But, um, yeah,

1389
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,319
I mean, and I'll get it out to you guys.

1390
00:57:42,319 --> 00:57:43,680
I'll send it to you, too, if you want to

1391
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,240
read it also. But, I mean, it's not

1392
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,119
something I'm going to do tonight or

1393
00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:49,839
anything, but it'll be a few days. So,

1394
00:57:49,839 --> 00:57:52,160
cuz I got So, I got that in a word

1395
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:53,839
document. So, do you want me to send it

1396
00:57:53,839 --> 00:57:56,079
to you and then you can just change

1397
00:57:56,079 --> 00:57:57,599
whatever you want to change? Awesome.

1398
00:57:57,599 --> 00:57:59,119
Yep. Okay.

1399
00:57:59,119 --> 00:58:01,920
>> Um cuz I might get with you with some of

1400
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:06,000
the uh architectural working.

1401
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,400
I think I might be able to get it. So,

1402
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:11,200
but I I sent I emailed you guys this

1403
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,920
whole report or on the bridge and

1404
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,920
everything that they all sent to us or

1405
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,680
sent to me so that you guys can read

1406
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,559
through it also. Okay. So,

1407
00:58:20,559 --> 00:58:22,960
>> okay. Any other residents?

1408
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,480
>> Go ahead.

1409
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,680
>> Okay. Do we have any public comments?

1410
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,640
Yeah, I have a quick question. I uh

1411
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,760
submitted something uh early last week

1412
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:36,240
about putting a shot on my uh property

1413
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:39,280
and I was told to be here tonight.

1414
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,680
>> What? I'm [clears throat] not aware what

1415
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:45,680
>> it's 373 South Fourth Street.

1416
00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,079
>> I I don't I don't have that application.

1417
00:58:48,079 --> 00:58:50,400
So, our building inspector might have

1418
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:51,359
it, but I'm

1419
00:58:51,359 --> 00:58:52,960
>> Well, that's who I spoke with, and he

1420
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:54,640
said I had to have it emailed to him by

1421
00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:57,760
the beginning of uh last week, which I

1422
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,000
did,

1423
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,079
>> and I was want to have it uh started

1424
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:04,640
Wednesday if I could.

1425
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,240
>> Do we want to look at it?

1426
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,400
>> I was told that it was u you know, I did

1427
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,160
need a permit just to make sure that I

1428
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,480
had to come through you all and be here

1429
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:12,960
tonight.

1430
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:14,480
>> Yeah, he doesn't need a permit for the

1431
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:15,599
What size shed was it?

1432
00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:17,040
>> It's a 10 x 12.

1433
00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:18,319
>> Yeah. So he doesn't need a permit.

1434
00:59:18,319 --> 00:59:20,000
>> So it's a top shed.

1435
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,240
>> We can talk about talking about

1436
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,319
>> Yep. So

1437
00:59:24,319 --> 00:59:25,359
373.

1438
00:59:25,359 --> 00:59:27,760
>> Yes. You said 373 South Four Street.

1439
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,559
>> Okay.

1440
00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:31,839
Give us just a second here.

1441
00:59:31,839 --> 00:59:32,400
>> Oh, sure.

1442
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,200
>> Fact. I might be able to get this thing

1443
00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:37,920
to work.

1444
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:41,920
>> Oh, yeah. You can pull it up on here.

1445
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:44,720
>> 373.

1446
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:48,240
have something weird playing, right?

1447
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,880
Surprised he uh [laughter]

1448
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:53,680
>> Oh, he's going to put up there

1449
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:58,230
like

1450
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,040
that happen. One of the HBC's

1451
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,359
>> David was turning it on for Zoom, but it

1452
01:00:03,359 --> 01:00:04,880
was like playing a loop of something and

1453
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:06,880
so he thought it was a person

1454
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,520
>> for the Do you remember this? Just me?

1455
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,559
Okay, I'm crazy. It's true.

1456
01:00:12,559 --> 01:00:14,799
I mean maybe

1457
01:00:14,799 --> 01:00:16,720
>> was it there was something? Yes, I do

1458
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:18,000
remember there was something else with

1459
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,839
the zoom

1460
01:00:19,839 --> 01:00:21,119
north fourth.

1461
01:00:21,119 --> 01:00:26,789
>> South fourth.

1462
01:00:26,799 --> 01:00:27,680
It did help.

1463
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,799
>> I have copies with me if they have these

1464
01:00:30,799 --> 01:00:31,280
as well.

1465
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:32,160
>> Yeah. Can we?

1466
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:37,030
>> Sure.

1467
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:37,599
Thank you.

1468
01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:38,799
>> That sounded like it hurt.

1469
01:00:38,799 --> 01:00:46,630
>> It did. Thanks.

1470
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:51,910
existing

1471
01:00:51,920 --> 01:01:06,630
for

1472
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:12,079
a nice page. It's nice for back Yeah.

1473
01:01:12,079 --> 01:01:12,960
>> All the way back there.

1474
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:14,640
>> Yeah. See, what I would do is So, this

1475
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,400
is our garage way back.

1476
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:17,599
>> So, I was going to do is keep it the

1477
01:01:17,599 --> 01:01:20,079
same sight line for the garage and then

1478
01:01:20,079 --> 01:01:22,319
have it. It'll be 10 ft off the ground.

1479
01:01:22,319 --> 01:01:24,559
I was going to go 6 ft off the back

1480
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:26,079
>> and the property line. And then if you

1481
01:01:26,079 --> 01:01:27,440
go further,

1482
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:30,559
>> it shows you the uh contract. And that's

1483
01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:32,079
the shed right there.

1484
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:34,079
>> And I made it white with the black roof

1485
01:01:34,079 --> 01:01:36,640
to to match the rest of the existing

1486
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:37,760
buildings.

1487
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,240
>> Try to keep everything the same.

1488
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:41,599
is outside from the street.

1489
01:01:41,599 --> 01:01:43,280
>> Yeah, it's not even visual. Do you guys

1490
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:43,839
want to see?

1491
01:01:43,839 --> 01:01:54,950
>> Yes, please.

1492
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,167
» The decision, but I think it's a pull.

1493
01:01:57,167 --> 01:01:58,559
[laughter]

1494
01:01:58,559 --> 01:02:00,240
>> Well, at least we can say we officially

1495
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,440
pulled it out.

1496
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,359
>> I have to like lay in my head. I have to

1497
01:02:03,359 --> 01:02:04,640
lay it out like if I'm driving down

1498
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,799
Fourth Street, [laughter]

1499
01:02:06,799 --> 01:02:08,400
>> which drives me nuts. All the maps in

1500
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,920
town. Another to

1501
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,359
>> you see on that road.

1502
01:02:13,359 --> 01:02:18,000
>> Do you Yeah, it so we're going

1503
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,960
>> He wants to in here right in the back

1504
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:21,680
the garage.

1505
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:24,640
>> Yeah, that's what I was saying. Like

1506
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,359
>> Oh, and what is what is all the way

1507
01:02:27,359 --> 01:02:29,200
behind it? Is there anything behind?

1508
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:29,680
>> Mm-m.

1509
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:30,960
>> No, they're probably landing troops,

1510
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:31,920
right? Right here.

1511
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:32,319
>> Yeah,

1512
01:02:32,319 --> 01:02:33,680
>> here.

1513
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,839
>> And it's going to be like 6 ft off the

1514
01:02:35,839 --> 01:02:38,000
back. I was going to go at least 6 ft

1515
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:39,760
just so I make sure I'm

1516
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:42,880
>> within six and six. I'm going to go 10

1517
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:45,040
>> six and it'll be 10 off the side cuz I'm

1518
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:46,960
going to go the exact uh sight line with

1519
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:48,640
the garage.

1520
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,839
>> Yeah, as long as I like

1521
01:02:51,839 --> 01:02:54,240
it's going to be matches the garage.

1522
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,319
>> I mean, and that up into Rosary Edition

1523
01:02:56,319 --> 01:02:57,200
and there's

1524
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:02,720
>> Yeah, that's backyard backyard. That's nowhere.

1525
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,943
>> That's pretty good.

1526
01:03:05,943 --> 01:03:07,040
>> [clears throat]

1527
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,319
>> Yeah. With where it is, it shouldn't be

1528
01:03:08,319 --> 01:03:10,480
visible from the other street either.

1529
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:12,319
>> Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of hidden from

1530
01:03:12,319 --> 01:03:12,960
everything.

1531
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:13,920
>> Yeah.

1532
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,780
>> And and no alley, you know,

1533
01:03:15,780 --> 01:03:17,599
[clears throat] so just

1534
01:03:17,599 --> 01:03:18,559
>> Yeah.

1535
01:03:18,559 --> 01:03:20,000
>> So, we're going to get it about the time

1536
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,559
like you said. [laughter]

1537
01:03:22,559 --> 01:03:24,640
>> I didn't make a motion before you even

1538
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:29,589
>> You want to You go right ahead.

1539
01:03:29,599 --> 01:03:30,960
» Yeah. See the way the other

1540
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,319
>> It's in that bottom corner.

1541
01:03:34,319 --> 01:03:36,480
>> Right in there. Oh, right on. Yeah. All

1542
01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,920
right. Yeah. Okay.

1543
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:43,039
>> Well, I will make a motion to approve as

1544
01:03:43,039 --> 01:03:44,960
>> Oh, okay. Well, I will second.

1545
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:46,000
>> Okay. [laughter]

1546
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,599
>> I have a motion and a second to approve

1547
01:03:49,599 --> 01:03:54,240
the shed addition in the backyard at 373

1548
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,200
South Fourth Street. All in favor?

1549
01:03:57,200 --> 01:04:00,720
>> I. Any opposed?

1550
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:01,760
>> Nice have it.

1551
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,480
>> Well, thank you for hanging with us. Do

1552
01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:05,440
you need this or can you

1553
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:06,640
>> Do you want to keep?

1554
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:08,559
>> Uh yeah, let me hang Let me hang on to

1555
01:04:08,559 --> 01:04:10,799
it. You'll get you'll get a copy with

1556
01:04:10,799 --> 01:04:13,039
your with that when we issue the permit.

1557
01:04:13,039 --> 01:04:13,119
I

1558
01:04:13,119 --> 01:04:13,920
>> need to keep all that.

1559
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:15,839
>> So, we'll be on on the permit for it

1560
01:04:15,839 --> 01:04:17,440
tomorrow. So,

1561
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:18,799
>> uh we'll give you a call when we have it

1562
01:04:18,799 --> 01:04:20,880
ready. It's a matter of doing the paper.

1563
01:04:20,880 --> 01:04:22,079
>> Just run on down here and grab it.

1564
01:04:22,079 --> 01:04:22,960
>> Yep. It's a matter of doing the

1565
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:23,200
paperwork.

1566
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,599
>> Can my father-in-law pick it up?

1567
01:04:25,599 --> 01:04:26,559
>> Anybody can pick it up.

1568
01:04:26,559 --> 01:04:27,359
>> Okay, great. Yep.

1569
01:04:27,359 --> 01:04:29,359
>> Cuz he he's at home and I I work 30

1570
01:04:29,359 --> 01:04:29,680
days.

1571
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:33,119
>> Okay. And the fee is $35 for the permit.

1572
01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:35,359
No problem. So, just pray when we come

1573
01:04:35,359 --> 01:04:35,839
pick it up.

1574
01:04:35,839 --> 01:04:38,480
>> Yep. Yeah. If you give me at least try

1575
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,960
and give me till noon if you can. Sure.

1576
01:04:40,960 --> 01:04:42,000
>> That way give me time to get the

1577
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:42,880
paperwork done.

1578
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:44,480
>> Oh, sure. No, no problem at all.

1579
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,039
>> All right. Thank you, sir.

1580
01:04:47,039 --> 01:04:47,599
>> Thank you.

1581
01:04:47,599 --> 01:04:49,440
>> You too.

1582
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:53,119
>> Is there a way uh Steve I think you

1583
01:04:53,119 --> 01:04:54,319
talked with Steve? Is there a way that

1584
01:04:54,319 --> 01:04:56,240
he can call one of you guys or all of

1585
01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,480
you guys to kind of just hear why he got

1586
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,960
denied

1587
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:02,720
>> or is there like a statement that you

1588
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:04,480
guys will be sending him of why it got

1589
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:04,880
denied?

1590
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:05,440
>> I mean,

1591
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:06,319
>> yeah, it'll

1592
01:05:06,319 --> 01:05:09,280
>> Yeah. Yeah. We'll do a we'll do a a kind

1593
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,799
of a letter, if you will, stating why it was denied.

1594
01:05:12,799 --> 01:05:13,200
>> Okay.

1595
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:15,280
>> Y what the motions are.

1596
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:16,799
>> I guess tomorrow he'll be calling you

1597
01:05:16,799 --> 01:05:18,640
about the porch to see if they want to

1598
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:19,359
proceed with that.

1599
01:05:19,359 --> 01:05:19,920
>> Okay.

1600
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,599
Is that something that need to be

1601
01:05:21,599 --> 01:05:23,680
like decided tonight or is that

1602
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:24,720
something that he can call you and kind

1603
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:25,440
of talk over?

1604
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:26,240
>> No, they

1605
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:27,280
>> we've already approved the

1606
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:31,359
>> Yeah, the porch the porch is approved.

1607
01:05:31,359 --> 01:05:33,359
>> Yeah. And and it has a what a six-month

1608
01:05:33,359 --> 01:05:34,319
time on it, too.

1609
01:05:34,319 --> 01:05:39,359
>> Yeah. So, so once it's approved and you know and you have that in your hand,

1610
01:05:39,359 --> 01:05:41,119
you got 6 months to build it.

1611
01:05:41,119 --> 01:05:42,480
>> So, we're good.

1612
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:43,839
>> All right. Thank you. Yes.

1613
01:05:43,839 --> 01:05:47,190
>> Thank you.

1614
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,240
» Okay. Are we ready to adjourn? Motion to

1615
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:51,920
adjurnn.

1616
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,520
>> I think I have a motion and a second to

1617
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:55,039
adjurnn. Oh,

1618
01:05:55,039 --> 01:05:58,960
>> all in favor? Yoinks.