1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:10,240 like to call this meeting to order. Welcome here everyone. At this moment, I 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:14,320 would like to give the opening to councelor Michael Sw. 3 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:18,160 » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Members of council will likely recall that at the last 4 00:00:16,080 --> 00:00:23,039 council meeting, councelor Semons noted that he was giving his last opening at a 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:28,000 council meeting. Well, I'm in a similar situation since this will be also my 6 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:32,960 last time that I give the opening at a council meeting. And since this is my 7 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:37,360 last opening, I felt it was appropriate to share some general reflections about 8 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:42,239 municipal politics and good city governance, I don't plan to get in into 9 00:00:40,079 --> 00:00:46,480 anything too personal at this point because I'll likely share some thoughts 10 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:50,160 at the final council meeting in October. In addition, we still have several 11 00:00:48,160 --> 00:00:54,239 meetings to go before this council term ends, and I don't believe in saying 12 00:00:52,239 --> 00:00:59,039 goodbye until it's actually time to say goodbye. Plus, I still have until 13 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:02,239 September 22nd to get my nomination paper in, if I suddenly change my mind 14 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:07,680 about the whole provincial politics thing. I've been on part of council now 15 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:12,400 for five council terms, which means that I've been on city council for 20 years. 16 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:16,799 Well, 20 years is far from a record-breaking length of time to serve 17 00:01:14,320 --> 00:01:21,439 on council is definitely longer than average. And being on council for 20 18 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:27,360 years has given me a unique opportunity to see the inner workings of our city. 19 00:01:24,320 --> 00:01:32,720 As a result, I think it's appropriate for me to shed some light on some 20 00:01:29,119 --> 00:01:37,200 things. However, if you're hoping that I'm going to reveal some deep dark 21 00:01:34,799 --> 00:01:41,439 secret about our city governance or expose the hidden corruption at the 22 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:44,560 highest levels or reveal that all members of council are actually 23 00:01:42,960 --> 00:01:48,000 Freemasons who are in the pocket of George Soros and helping to bring in a 24 00:01:46,320 --> 00:01:52,240 one world government, you're going to be sorely disappointed. 25 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:58,000 So, the first thing I've noticed is that we have an absolutely fantastic staff 26 00:01:55,280 --> 00:02:02,719 here in the city of Steinbeck. Now, I know it's expected for politicians to 27 00:02:00,159 --> 00:02:07,520 say nice things about their staff, but in this case, I mean it quite sincerely. 28 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:12,239 Our staff members are highly professional and they do a great job of 29 00:02:10,319 --> 00:02:16,720 getting council members the information that we need to make good decisions. 30 00:02:14,959 --> 00:02:20,800 I'll never forget a council meeting several years ago when I was in the 31 00:02:18,319 --> 00:02:25,440 mayor's chair and we had an applicant during a public hearing who happened not 32 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:30,560 to be from this area was trying to get support for his project. And now in his 33 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:36,239 report to us, city manager Troy Workington had highlighted some concerns 34 00:02:32,959 --> 00:02:41,200 that staff had about the proposal. And in a poorly thoughtout attempt to get 35 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:45,680 buy in from council, the applicant urged us during the hearing to ignore what the 36 00:02:43,599 --> 00:02:50,080 bureaucrats were saying and just go with our judgment instead. And I remember 37 00:02:48,239 --> 00:02:54,239 shooting right back at this applicant that in Steinbeck we don't call our 38 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:58,640 staff members bureaucrats. We regard them as professionals. So, on behalf of 39 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:02,800 all of us in council, I want to say thank you to our staff for all the 40 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:08,480 incredible work that you do on a day-to-day basis for us. A second thing 41 00:03:06,319 --> 00:03:13,360 I want to note is that our council meetings, and this is over the 20 years 42 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:18,000 I've been on council, are run well. I've served with two outstanding mayors, and 43 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:22,159 one thing that Mayor Girtson and Mayor Funk have in common is they both know 44 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:27,280 the importance of keeping council meetings focused and on topic. As a 45 00:03:24,959 --> 00:03:32,000 result, our public council meetings typically last only about an hour or so 46 00:03:30,319 --> 00:03:36,720 with the exception of when we have a contentious public hearing. And that is 47 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:41,760 fine. That's because there's nothing inherently noble about having lengthier 48 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:47,360 meetings. Longer doesn't necessarily mean better. I'm proud of how well our 49 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:52,640 meetings are run, how respectful we are to each other during a debate, and how 50 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:56,080 professional we look during the meeting. And it's too bad that more people don't 51 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:59,920 check out the YouTube videos of our council meetings because I think there's 52 00:03:58,159 --> 00:04:05,040 value in them and I'm quite proud to showcase the way that we do things in 53 00:04:01,599 --> 00:04:09,439 our city. Finally, I'm pleased that our city over the years has remained focused 54 00:04:06,959 --> 00:04:15,519 on areas that legitimately fall within municipal jurisdiction. We really do 55 00:04:12,159 --> 00:04:20,479 focus on basic infrastructure, on police and fire protection, and on recreation 56 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:24,720 projects for our community. I'm proud that we don't spend our time 57 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:29,360 making symbolic climate emergency declarations or issue a different 58 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:34,400 proclamation for a new cause every week or raise multiple flags in front of city 59 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:39,600 hall. Instead, we keep focused on the basics and that helps to keep our city 60 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:43,840 great. As I mentioned at the outset, this council term is not quite done, so 61 00:04:41,759 --> 00:04:47,040 this is not goodbye. We've got a lot of work left to do, starting with the 62 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:50,880 public hearings that we have coming right up. So, let's get to it. Thank 63 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:55,759 you, Mr. Mayor, >> thank you. Councelor Swagstra, 64 00:04:54,160 --> 00:05:01,600 uh, council, we have the agenda in front of us. Looking for a motion to adopt. 65 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:06,400 Councelor Heert, second by councelor Penner. Call for the question. All in 66 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:11,600 favor? Oppose? That is carried. Council, we have the minutes of August 18th, 67 00:05:08,639 --> 00:05:14,639 2026, the regular council meeting. They start on page one. We've all had a 68 00:05:13,199 --> 00:05:19,680 chance to review. Looking for a motion to approve. Councelor Heert, second by 69 00:05:17,039 --> 00:05:22,560 councelor Seammens. Uh, call for the question. All in favor? 70 00:05:21,039 --> 00:05:24,800 » I was missing from that meeting. I don't think it was extended. 71 00:05:23,199 --> 00:05:29,280 » We were gonna I'll get that right right away. 72 00:05:27,759 --> 00:05:34,320 » Okay. Yeah. Call for the question. All in favor? Post that is carried. 73 00:05:32,639 --> 00:05:39,039 » Are there any business rising from the minutes? 74 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:44,000 » Motion to excuse Penner from that meeting. Yeah, we will uh I have a note 75 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:47,280 here to excuse councelor Susan Penner from the August 18th council meeting 76 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:52,720 » and >> and also we'll excuse councelor Damian 77 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:57,440 Penner from today's meeting as well. So call for the questionot. 78 00:05:54,240 --> 00:06:00,560 » I mean uh motion motion to approve. >> Councelor Heert, second by councelor 79 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:05,759 Heert. Call for the question. All those in favor 80 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:13,680 that council will move directly into the public hearings. We've got 6A. This is 81 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:18,639 the reasonzoning bylaw 2285. This is referring [clears throat] to 58 Geese 82 00:06:15,919 --> 00:06:23,680 Street. At this time, council, I will close the council meeting, open the 83 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:28,560 public hearing, and Mr. Warine, could you please introduce this file? 84 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:34,720 » Uh, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh, zoning bylaw 2285 uh for property with a civic 85 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:38,800 address of 58 East Geese Street. Uh, is being applied for by Jordan Loen with 86 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:44,880 the owner of the property being 3XL Holdings, LTD. Uh purpose of bylaw 2285 87 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:50,319 uh is to reszone the subject property from RLD residential low density to RMD 88 00:06:48,319 --> 00:06:54,160 residential medium density to permit a multif family development to be 89 00:06:51,759 --> 00:06:58,160 constructed. Notices as are required under the planning act have been issued. 90 00:06:56,319 --> 00:07:02,880 There is one item of correspondence on file a copy of which was given to 91 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:09,440 council in their mail bins earlier today. Um in addition to that, community 92 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:15,120 planning office indicates that uh there are no provincial concerns identified 93 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:20,000 with this application. Um the uh subject property is a double lot and it 94 00:07:17,199 --> 00:07:24,160 presently contains a single uh unit dwelling structure. The applicant 95 00:07:21,919 --> 00:07:29,280 proposes uh as was mentioned to develop a a two-story 12-unit multi-unit 96 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:34,960 residential structure on the site. Uh the adjacent land parcel to the west of 97 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:39,440 the subject property is also zoned RMD. Uh the uh proposal would also be subject 98 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:42,960 to the city's infill policy. Recommendation from administration is 99 00:07:41,039 --> 00:07:45,840 for council to approve second reading to this bylaw subject to a development 100 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:49,599 agreement and subject to any new evidence that may be provided at this 101 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:52,960 public hearing. >> Thank you, Mr. Wardine. Um is the 102 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:56,240 applicant here today? >> Yeah. 103 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:59,465 » Do you wish to speak? Okay, 104 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:03,840 » just uh take the podium, get your [clears throat] name and address and um 105 00:08:01,599 --> 00:08:08,479 then continue. >> Good evening. My name's uh Jordan Lohan. 106 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:14,160 I live at Triple 4 Hler Street South in Steinbeck. Uh bought this property, got 107 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:20,800 possession this year. Uh thought it was a good uh property to add some density 108 00:08:17,919 --> 00:08:25,440 to our kind of inner mile of Steinbeck that's regoing a lot of rework. the 109 00:08:23,199 --> 00:08:29,120 properties towards its end of its life cycle 110 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:34,640 um uh with the large lot uh and only going 111 00:08:32,399 --> 00:08:41,200 two stories for RMD which allows three stories. I thought it could fit with the 112 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:46,720 neighborhood uh I counted 13 RMD lots uh within a block and a half uh of infill. 113 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:51,200 So that's down First Street the corner of Ellis and Geese. There's a couple 114 00:08:48,560 --> 00:08:57,360 other ones before you get to Wood Haven. Um I have a site plan that's uh meets 115 00:08:54,560 --> 00:09:03,760 all the requirements of uh issuing a permit I suppose uh site uh setbacks 116 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:07,440 required parking dumpster recycling landscaping buffering I'll have to get a 117 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:13,760 lock rating plan to address all the drainage of course um yeah I think it it 118 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:18,959 is a good fit and fits with the direction the city wants to go with 119 00:09:15,519 --> 00:09:23,920 revitalizing some of the older areas so >> okay thank you councel Any questions for 120 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:29,360 the applicant? I see none at this time. So, um, we'll 121 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:32,720 probably call you up later on for sure. Okay. 122 00:09:30,959 --> 00:09:37,480 Is there anyone here with comments, questions, or objections to this file? 123 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:45,519 Okay. Yeah. Take the podium. Yeah. And again, I'll I'll have it just 124 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:48,560 state your name and your address because everything's recorded and then you can 125 00:09:47,839 --> 00:09:56,399 go ahead. >> Okay. Um, we're Christa and Ryan Vote. 126 00:09:52,320 --> 00:10:02,720 Um, we live at 17 Westview Place. Um, our property is directly affected by the 127 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:08,480 proposed development at 58 GB Street. Um, we've lived there since 2013. It's 128 00:10:06,399 --> 00:10:14,399 been uh pretty much an open field in the back. There's uh Swift and all that 129 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:18,480 stuff there. where the like depending how far this is going to be set back. 130 00:10:16,959 --> 00:10:22,640 This is going to be directly in our backyard. 131 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:27,279 There's mature trees back there. It's a beautiful setting. 132 00:10:24,560 --> 00:10:31,360 Uh we're worried about privacy. Uh we're worried about the lights. We're 133 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:35,760 worried about people cutting through our properties to get to their places. I 134 00:10:34,399 --> 00:10:42,240 mean, people already cut through there now. Um there's also concerns of 135 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:48,079 flooding. Gizrect already can't handle large rain, large flooding. So, how much 136 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:53,040 more runoff is this going to make for our properties? 137 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:58,240 Um, yeah, it's just like we're directly affected. Like, depending how far back 138 00:10:55,120 --> 00:11:03,000 this thing is going to be built, um, it's going to be pretty much right in 139 00:10:59,839 --> 00:11:03,000 our backyard. 140 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:10,240 So, and what's that going to do to the prop like for our property value for 141 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:16,800 resale if we want to put our house up for sale in in a few years? I mean, I 142 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:21,839 definitely would think before, you know, having 12 units looking into my 143 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:27,440 backyard. I mean, like I'm all for, you know, 144 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:32,399 increasing, you know, homes in Steinback and that kind of stuff, but I think it 145 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:38,320 needs to take consideration. Like for West View Place, depending how far back 146 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:40,959 they put this, we're going to have, you know, traffic, we're going to have 147 00:11:39,519 --> 00:11:48,240 noise, we're going to have lights, we're going to have different people. The 148 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:52,640 other question I have is, "Love the lights going up at the corner of Geese 149 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:58,560 Breton and 52." Great idea. There's going to be no lefthand turns going into 150 00:11:54,880 --> 00:12:02,959 Tim Hortons, right in the mornings. What is this? What's going to happen when we 151 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:06,480 have all these apartments and people trying to leave their places and all the 152 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:10,160 people that go to that Tim Hortons are now going to be using Geese and First 153 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:14,000 Street to go to Tim Hortons. There's going to be such a lineup there. 154 00:12:14,560 --> 00:12:21,760 Okay. So then I mean that just comes down to traffic concerns. Um 155 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:26,320 » yeah, but I mean I mean you're putting >> we have like we're working on that. 156 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:30,000 We're we are talking with the Tim Hortons. They they do have to make sure 157 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:33,279 they can >> age everyone on their lot. 158 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:37,680 » Really? I mean that's probably you know that's that's a later concern. But this 159 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:42,000 is this is going to be like >> like depending how far back it is and if 160 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:46,959 I'm correct, >> they're going to be taking down the 161 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:51,680 house and the trees and setting it back and then we're it's it's going to be 162 00:12:48,639 --> 00:12:55,680 pretty much right in my backyard. >> Okay. 163 00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:58,720 » Mr. Mayor, >> you have to come to the podium. 164 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,560 » Come to the podium. Sorry. >> No, I was just taped, right? 165 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,399 » Yeah. >> We can't hear you from where you were 166 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,360 talking. >> Yeah. Uh yeah, my name's Ryan Vote and I 167 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:08,079 was just going to mention because there's also going to be that other 168 00:13:06,639 --> 00:13:13,760 complex that's probably going to be going forward in that back field. So, um 169 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:18,959 we're just adding a lot more uh traffic to that area. Um 170 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:25,760 we've we heard rumor that they were going to open up L 252, 171 00:13:22,079 --> 00:13:31,120 which uh which would relieve some of the the congestion there. So this will be 172 00:13:28,959 --> 00:13:34,720 because the property on Lond was just approved to build their three-story one. 173 00:13:33,279 --> 00:13:38,079 So that's already going to be back there. And then we're if they set this 174 00:13:36,639 --> 00:13:43,839 one further back, we've got two apartment buildings pretty much into 175 00:13:40,639 --> 00:13:45,839 everyone's backyards on Westview Place. >> Okay, 176 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:48,800 » Mr. Mayor. >> Yes. 177 00:13:46,079 --> 00:13:54,480 » Are they Is this not going on lot 58? That is So that does not line up with 178 00:13:51,680 --> 00:13:59,120 Westview Place on the map. So this is a property 58 179 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:02,240 where this proposed project is going. >> Yeah, we're right on the corner 180 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,320 » and 58 is we're right on the corner. >> Yeah, this 181 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,519 backyard >> 62 182 00:14:05,680 --> 00:14:11,360 » 62 and then 58 >> not right backyard but I mean it's 183 00:14:09,519 --> 00:14:14,320 enough like I already have lights shining into my place from Swift. 184 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:18,720 » Yeah, >> already had to deal with that. I I'm 185 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:21,680 like >> especially if it's a two 186 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:25,760 » Okay, it's better that at least it's a twotory and not a threetory that I was 187 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:30,959 concerned about. Yeah, that that part is better. Just concerned with how far back 188 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:37,160 like where I I didn't get a good picture of it, but like is the parking lot going 189 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:37,160 to be in the back or the front? 190 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:44,880 » Yeah. Um, excuse me. I I'll I'll speak because I got a mic. Yeah, the parking 191 00:14:43,279 --> 00:14:50,480 lot will be in the front. That That's what's showing. But there will be all 192 00:14:47,839 --> 00:14:53,600 the setbacks like all like all everything's going to be observed. 193 00:14:51,519 --> 00:14:59,680 There'll be no variances needed for this build. So it'll be it'll be 25 ft from 194 00:14:57,199 --> 00:15:04,959 the property line in the back, right? Just like is what's required. Okay. So 195 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:09,600 So that's that that is that is going to be so it's not going to be right at the 196 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:15,199 back of the property. It won't be in your backyard because you do have a 197 00:15:11,839 --> 00:15:20,560 property between you and this one. >> Okay. But are those trees and all that's 198 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:25,040 grown up there going to come down? Well, norm any anytime that like this 199 00:15:24,079 --> 00:15:30,000 will come out in the development agreement. Anytime this happens, 200 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:34,639 there'll be plantings that have to be put in. So, there will have if trees 201 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:40,800 come down that does sometimes happen. Yes. But trees will also be planted as 202 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:44,880 well. So, so that there's a there's a a minimum amount of planting that has to 203 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:50,000 happen with every development and that's in development agreement. Am I correct 204 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:55,199 about that? Uh, Mr. working. >> Uh there are certain requirements. Uh if 205 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:59,600 it's uh street edge landscaping, yes, there are requirements in the city 206 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:04,240 zoning bylaw. However, for any existing uh vegetation that is on the site, that 207 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:10,639 is uh up to the developer to determine what that landscaping plan will entail. 208 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:13,440 » Okay. Thank you. >> And then the drainage that never got 209 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:17,519 addressed either. >> Okay. Well, drainage. Okay. So in 210 00:16:15,519 --> 00:16:23,120 development agreement, every property as you as you redevelop 211 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:28,560 it, you have to deal with all your water on that property. It can't put any water 212 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:34,000 onto like any more water than already is going onto your property. It can't go 213 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:40,240 anymore. So this will this will actually most of the time infill uh developments 214 00:16:37,279 --> 00:16:45,680 like this they actually improve drainage because there's like right now there's 215 00:16:43,199 --> 00:16:50,800 no there's nothing stopping this water from running into the swale but now this 216 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:56,320 developer will have to come up with a development in the in agreement and he 217 00:16:53,440 --> 00:17:03,680 will have a drainage plan that will take care of the the the water on site. So he 218 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:07,520 yeah he can't go dumping water into unless there's a unless there's a 219 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,919 designated swale for everyone to drain into. 220 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:14,720 » Okay. So it's not like it would be there'd be drainage like specifically 221 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:18,480 for rain going right onto the street. >> Right. He can't put his he can't put his 222 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:21,280 down spouts into the neighbor's yard. >> Right. He's got to take care of his 223 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:24,959 water on his site. >> Yeah. No, it's just cuz Yeah. Like she 224 00:17:23,039 --> 00:17:28,640 said, the main concern is geese floods all the time. when we get heavy rain and 225 00:17:27,039 --> 00:17:32,240 all that kind of stuff like we already have to watch 226 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:38,000 » our our crawl space or our >> what is thank you basement and stuff so 227 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:42,640 and make sure the pump is working so you know what are 12 more units going to 228 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:46,559 » I mean that's valid but but in the development agreement they have to the 229 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:47,520 drainage will be taken care of for this property 230 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,640 » okay >> yeah okay in the in development 231 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:55,600 agreement but they're valid valid concerns drainage is a valid concern all 232 00:17:53,120 --> 00:17:59,919 the time because we are so flat But but that uh that that will be worked 233 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:04,120 on with our city staff. >> All right. 234 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,120 » All right. Thank you. 235 00:18:05,039 --> 00:18:10,919 » Is there anyone else? >> Okay. Go ahead. 236 00:18:16,799 --> 00:18:27,760 » My name is George WZ. I'm a resident of 30 GB for many years. Um my concern 237 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:33,840 would be very much the same would be would be water on the street and uh you 238 00:18:31,039 --> 00:18:36,960 did mention that the every developer is looks after their water on their 239 00:18:35,919 --> 00:18:41,039 property [clears throat] but what happens to the water that comes off the 240 00:18:39,039 --> 00:18:46,000 paved lot that I've noticed that over the years 241 00:18:43,919 --> 00:18:52,000 like you guys have done a wonderful job over the years because we've been there 242 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:57,120 a long time uh and that ditch beside us. We have a a drainage ditch beside us run 243 00:18:54,480 --> 00:19:02,720 running to the 52 that has been improved greatly over the years. However, it is 244 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:07,679 to the point where something has to be done because there's more and more water 245 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:14,320 accumulating on the street right in that pocket. So I am very very concerned 246 00:19:11,679 --> 00:19:20,240 about that water and I think this this any of these 247 00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:25,280 developments which with paved parking lots 248 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:30,720 the developer can't control that water and that's going to run onto the street. 249 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:37,440 Gizburg is already uh basically 250 00:19:32,799 --> 00:19:43,440 almost a river in a heavy rainstorm. So, I would I would urge you to take a 251 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:48,000 serious look at at some other solution to that to that problem of that 252 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:54,080 accumulating water there because the that ditch just does not keep up. And 253 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:59,840 you have you have another development kitty corner to us coming up. That 254 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:04,000 development's driveway is going to be right in the center of that pool of 255 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:08,799 water. And you're going to have some very very upset people when once that 256 00:20:06,799 --> 00:20:12,559 development is up and they're trying to leave their property and they won't be 257 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:18,400 able to because cars are stalling out left, right, and center in that pool of 258 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:21,840 water. So I would urge you to to take a serious look at that. 259 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:26,480 » Well, at the at the time of development of that lot, there will be a development 260 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:31,919 agreement and drainage will be addressed at that time with that lot. So, so 261 00:20:29,919 --> 00:20:37,120 » well that lot that lot has already been approved. 262 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:39,360 » Yes, but the it's been approved but the the has there been work done on it 263 00:20:39,039 --> 00:20:41,440 already? >> Yes. 264 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:45,760 » Okay. Well, then there's there'll be a there'll be a drainage plan that's tied 265 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:48,400 to that permit. >> Okay. 266 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:57,280 » Okay. So that that will that drainage plan will will be uh will have to be 267 00:20:52,400 --> 00:21:03,120 executed executed by the developer and that will will that should most likely 268 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:07,440 make that that area that drainage better. Like I'm not a I'm not an 269 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:11,200 engineer. I'm not a like I don't look at like I don't know how to necessarily 270 00:21:09,679 --> 00:21:15,039 drain water other than your drainage the lowest spot. 271 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:19,200 » But but our engineers work with the developers. They look at each piece of 272 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:24,000 land and they they do make the drainage better when those properties are are 273 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:29,679 filled in. Back back in the day when Greece geese was built there that would 274 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:34,880 have predated development plans that would have been predated uh drainage 275 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:38,880 plans and that's that but now as we're developing we're in we're improving 276 00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:41,520 those drainage plans. >> So 277 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:47,200 » when you look at that a lot of times infill development improves the 278 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:50,960 drainage. Mhm. Well, I I I again I I just want to stress that this needs to 279 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:54,799 really be seriously looked at. >> Thank you. 280 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:59,840 » Yep. The other concern I would have like someone else here mentioned is is 281 00:21:56,799 --> 00:22:05,919 traffic. Um yes, there's lights going up there which are going to help. Uh, but 282 00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:12,159 Gizbrebrick is kind of a main artery out of that whole area of of Steinbeck. And 283 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:18,080 I'm just wondering if there isn't a possibility of opening up some other 284 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:24,840 arteries. I think the property right beside Lond is actually a street, is it 285 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:24,840 not? Lond Lond. 286 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:34,400 Um where we Well, we're not actually we need to focus on this this uh this 287 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:36,559 hearing right now. We're talking about 58 East, right? 288 00:22:35,919 --> 00:22:39,679 » Yes, we are. >> And and so you have you have traffic 289 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:45,600 concerns. >> Yes. 290 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:49,919 » And that's good. I I to start guessing where what's going to happen with L 291 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:55,280 where that's going to be what what kind of drainage plans going to be for that 292 00:22:51,919 --> 00:22:58,559 for lot 81 and 80 as they develop. I don't I don't want to get into that. We 293 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,280 want to focus on >> geese 294 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:04,400 » 58 greet. That's what we're talking about today. 295 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:09,840 » Thank you. >> And and yes, the traffic is directly 296 00:23:07,679 --> 00:23:13,280 affected though like >> so that is that is the is the second 297 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:16,240 concern I have. >> Okay. 298 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,880 » Thank you. >> Thank you very much. 299 00:23:23,039 --> 00:23:34,400 » Any anyone else? Go ahead. Yeah. >> Hi. Uh Trevor Newfeld. I live at 316 300 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:39,039 McKenzie in Steinbeck here. And um I ju I was just uh just had a few thoughts 301 00:23:36,559 --> 00:23:45,200 and questions, concerns I guess about this property. um uh the the previous 302 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:50,640 man who was uh speaking here, I believe that the the connection for him, I 303 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:58,080 realize he was uh maybe speaking about another property, but his wisdom of see 304 00:23:54,080 --> 00:24:02,559 his idea about the opinions addresses uh of of different places, I should say, um 305 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:07,600 rather than just possibly putting this addition or this building on this 306 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:12,720 property would sort of address um city planning as opposed to developer for 307 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:19,279 setting up an opportunity to earn extra income. And I guess that is uh is is I 308 00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:26,320 think that's a valid question um for this and and others as well. Does the 309 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:31,360 city have a plan um instead of infill that would be more appropriate and less 310 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:37,760 damaging potentially for the immediate residents? That could also gain um uh 311 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:43,279 the amount of people that you want to bring in, the tax increases, the 312 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:49,200 revenue, the business uh business, what potential all that. Um, one thing I had 313 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:54,559 heard the developer talking about was um I may have mis I may have misunderstood 314 00:24:52,000 --> 00:25:00,559 but end of he saying it has sort of reached its end of life um home. I I I'm 315 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:05,679 not sure about clarification on that. We're living in a beautiful home built 316 00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:09,120 in 1943. That home is a lot newer than our home. Not saying that every home has 317 00:25:07,679 --> 00:25:13,679 been built at the same quality, but unless I misunderstood, I don't think a 318 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:18,480 home is at It's like a car. it will keep working till you stop fixing it. U so to 319 00:25:16,799 --> 00:25:23,520 say that a home is at the end of its life, if I understood that correctly, is 320 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:29,440 I think it's very inaccurate. It's opportunistic. Um I get that. Um the 321 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:35,120 fact that there's an open lot beside it as well. Um, I would imagine that like 322 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:43,279 if you're replacing one family with 12 families or 20 or 24, I mean in this 323 00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:47,919 case 12, but in in any situation, why that many to replace one residential 324 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:54,000 property of one family with 12 families and 325 00:25:51,520 --> 00:26:00,080 that's small compared to what some are that are being done. That's huge for the 326 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:05,120 residents. So for these these folks and others who probably are too scared to 327 00:26:01,679 --> 00:26:10,240 come up here and talk I I think that um it's not maybe necessarily we can say 328 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:14,559 it's not right in their backyard uh or as it was said it's maybe adjacent or 329 00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:20,720 whatever. I didn't didn't look at the map on that. But I mean, imagine for all 330 00:26:17,679 --> 00:26:28,000 of for all of you if I could get each one of your addresses and use AI to put 331 00:26:23,679 --> 00:26:32,320 a 24 12plex, 20 plex, whatever on your neighbor's property, 332 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:36,559 it becomes personal and it's not personal for me to say that because any 333 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:42,803 well, it's not any more personal that way than for um this to be approached to 334 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:46,400 them, right? So, I mean, you you >> [laughter] 335 00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:50,080 » Every single one of us can potentially with the idea of let's go with 336 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:57,600 development, we can all potentially if we don't respect the the zoning that is 337 00:26:53,520 --> 00:27:04,559 already in place and use future planning city planning to go whoa he has a point. 338 00:27:01,039 --> 00:27:08,480 Maybe we can use future areas like I've seen in some cities they have a 339 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:12,799 beautiful zone of residential like low low density and they keep it that way. 340 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:18,720 Then they have right maybe next to it they've got different levels. So that's 341 00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:24,320 that's a thought. Um in this case why not build a duplex or if if they want to 342 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:29,200 develop develop a property on a home on each property. That'll bring in much 343 00:27:25,919 --> 00:27:33,279 more income. Not as much as a 12plex but a lot of the rent people who are going 344 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:37,919 to rent these 12plexes also potentially long term aren't going to look after it 345 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:41,760 necessarily as well. We've seen that in other places and even some of them along 346 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:46,880 McKenzie that have been built in the last few years. There's a whole run of 347 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:50,960 them there. Will you support homeowners, counselors and mayor and deputy mayor, 348 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:58,000 will you support homeowners that have been paying very good tax money already? 349 00:27:54,799 --> 00:28:03,600 Um, and think about that in the infill opportunities that will be presented and 350 00:28:01,039 --> 00:28:09,760 are being presented. Would you enjoy or accept this in yours? Um 351 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:16,000 uh why would the developers not maybe first go and try to choose lots that are 352 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:21,440 available? I've checked there are some that are available for this exact type 353 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:25,440 of thing. I'm not sure. I think it's less expensive maybe for the developer 354 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:33,360 to do it here as opposed to others. I'm not sure. Um makes sense maybe. Um tree 355 00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:36,720 replacement. I said a clarification question on your um because you said 356 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:42,159 something about if trees are going to be cut down they will be replaced. 357 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:48,960 Fantastic. 100 million% support that. But if we look at precedents 358 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:56,640 um McKenzie down um a massive forest was taken down. I don't know how many 12 24 359 00:28:53,600 --> 00:29:00,080 plexes are in there right now. Literally from one balcony to the next. They can 360 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:04,720 almost reach over and shake hands. I'm exaggerating, but it's extremely close. 361 00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:09,440 And some may don't mind living there, and that's that's fine, but a massive 362 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:14,559 force was taken down for that. I was really hoping to see some sort of um 363 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:19,039 activities, you know. So, I know I'm getting off topic, but that is just to 364 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:24,399 address that issue. Where will those trees be planted? How many were taken 365 00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:28,240 down? And where will those be replanted? Um, yeah, I guess that's all I have to 366 00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:30,880 say for now. >> Thank you. 367 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,880 Go ahead. 368 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:45,520 Um, my name is Hannah. We live at 54 GB Street, which is right beside this 369 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:51,360 property. Um, oh, went sideways. Um, we just bought this 370 00:29:48,399 --> 00:29:55,440 property a year ago. And one of the things we really loved was all the trees 371 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:59,440 right beside and most of them are in our neighbor's yard, um, which we don't have 372 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:03,520 any control over. Um, so one of my concerns is with this development coming 373 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:06,799 in, I realize a lot of these trees are probably going to get cut down and a lot 374 00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:12,880 of that privacy between our two properties is going to disappear. Um, is 375 00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:15,840 I granted that I'm assuming this apartment is going to take up most of 376 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:20,320 the width of the property. Is there plans to put a fence up or anything for 377 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:23,760 privacy between the yards? >> Okay. 378 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:26,960 Uh, we'll have the developer come back and answer these questions. Uh, I'm I'm 379 00:30:25,919 --> 00:30:32,399 making notes. >> Perfect. Uh, so that's question one. Um, 380 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:35,440 question two is there is, uh, you can see on the property there is a tree that 381 00:30:33,679 --> 00:30:41,120 is on our yard, but it is sticking over into theirs. Um, so I'm worried that as 382 00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:48,480 they're, uh, building some of that tree will get, um, trimmed, and I'm not sure 383 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:53,039 how well that tree will survive. Um, so yeah, I guess my concern is that tree 384 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:57,520 would from our property would be damaged from the development. 385 00:30:56,000 --> 00:31:04,320 Um, and I guess my last question is, um, if 386 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:11,520 this does go through, how soon would it get built? Um, just curiosity of, yeah, 387 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:15,360 we have, we have a newborn, so just want to know when we can expect a lot of 388 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:20,840 noise right beside us. Um, I think that's all I have. Thank you. 389 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,840 » Thank you. 390 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:33,200 » Okay. Is there anyone else with comments, questions, or objections? 391 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:36,240 Okay, I'll ask the developer if you did you want to come and answer some of 392 00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:42,720 those questions. If you uh I don't know if you you I saw 393 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:46,080 you taking notes, too, but uh I also have some notes. If you uh 394 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:52,080 » I'll run through them and see if we can tick as many boxes as we can here um to 395 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:57,862 the votes. Um yeah, you were wondering about setback. It'll be 25 ft from the 396 00:31:54,720 --> 00:32:01,600 rear. That's as close as we can go. [clears throat] 397 00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:07,440 As far as trees, existing part of the allure of infill is 398 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:13,519 the existing trees. If we can keep the trees, that's great. That's part of the 399 00:32:10,159 --> 00:32:19,919 reason this makes sense. Um, the other reason, uh, Mr. Newfeld, right? Um, you 400 00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:24,320 said it's it's cheaper. It depends a little bit on it. Like going and buying 401 00:32:21,679 --> 00:32:30,000 a new RMD lot, going three stories new bare land in a field. It can be cheaper. 402 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:34,399 It can be more expensive. It depends a bit on the density and the price of the 403 00:32:31,679 --> 00:32:39,360 lot. But in general, because I'm not going three stories, I can't put as many 404 00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:44,880 doors on this. It probably is more expensive than going and buying an empty 405 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:49,919 lot. Um, but the advantage, the reason that I would do it or do do it is 406 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:54,640 because, um, I talked to one of the owners of Swift and he's got a guy that 407 00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:59,039 rents down First Street and like the walkability. Um, home ownership's 408 00:32:57,360 --> 00:33:03,600 getting tougher and tougher. People need a place to live and rent. So to have, 409 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:08,399 you know, a couple hundred jobs down the road at at rest haven nursing home 410 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:12,480 that's walkable, Swift, Loen, our biggest employer in Steinach, to be 411 00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:17,279 within walking and biking distance to work. That's part of the reason these 412 00:33:14,399 --> 00:33:21,919 infills work. And when you go down Wood Haven further or McKenzie West, you get 413 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:27,440 a little further from the industry, which then makes people drive, which 414 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:30,240 makes them, you know, less desirable to some people if they don't have cars. 415 00:33:29,563 --> 00:33:35,600 » [gasps] >> Um, so 25 ft. We'll try to keep as many 416 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:40,880 trees. One, it costs money to cut trees down and haul them away. And two, we 417 00:33:38,399 --> 00:33:45,279 want more trees. They're good. They help uh and the less trees I then have to 418 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:52,000 plant as well because you get credit for existing trees if they stay. Um 419 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:57,919 part of a development agreement is uh if a residential medium density 420 00:33:55,679 --> 00:34:03,120 property gets developed next to single or low density, you have to fence the 421 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:08,800 property line. So there will be a fence around the property if you're worried 422 00:34:04,399 --> 00:34:15,280 about cutting. Um it'll be fenced. Um the flooding concerns um just so you 423 00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:20,800 know um I have to pay an engineer, a civil engineer to develop a plan. They 424 00:34:18,399 --> 00:34:26,560 come and survey it and there's something called runoff coefficients and when it 425 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:32,320 rains, think of the property more like uh a bucket that you poke a pen through. 426 00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:36,560 It's a metered amount that's allowed to come onto a street or into a ditch. It's 427 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:40,800 not like a plate where it can all just spill off the parking lot. So that's 428 00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:45,119 part of applying for a permit and getting a development. So I wouldn't 429 00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:49,919 know this for sure, but right now the way it is, it can just run off where it 430 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:55,359 wants. I would suspect that once there's a plan in place, it will actually 431 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:59,520 release less water as quickly into the city right away [clears throat] than it 432 00:34:57,359 --> 00:35:04,880 does now. That would be my guess because you're only allowed to release so much. 433 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:09,040 Um, you were concerned about light spillage. Uh there is a bylaw actually 434 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:15,200 for light spillage in parking lot lighting. Um LED lights are endlessly 435 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:19,359 penetrating now. So if it's exterior lighting, it's supposed to be shielded 436 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:24,800 in parking lots. And then the pot lights that might go in a set or on a balcony 437 00:35:21,359 --> 00:35:32,000 should be downward. So um traffic lights are going up should be 438 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:38,160 ready this fall which helps. Uh Mr. W you talked about uh street and yeah the 439 00:35:35,359 --> 00:35:43,520 road is a designated a collector itself it's it's supposed to be able to handle 440 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:48,160 this now whether it does or parking or the traffic and Tim Hortons that's 441 00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:54,640 probably outside my control but the actual street itself is designated as a 442 00:35:50,560 --> 00:36:00,640 collector street. Um that's the majority of um Hannah right 443 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:07,119 um you moved in a year ago. We're going to fence it. I if that tree is like 444 00:36:05,359 --> 00:36:13,200 until it's staked out, we don't know for sure. But if I can keep it, the building 445 00:36:09,359 --> 00:36:18,320 is set back from the property line 6 ft, 6 or 8 ft, I forget exactly. So, the 446 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:22,079 satellite may not get exact line of sight over top where it is, but we may 447 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:26,720 have to prune some of the branches on our side, but we would do everything we 448 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:31,520 can to to keep the tree for sure. And uh if this does go ahead, I do the building 449 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:36,240 and contracting too. So I'll give you my cell number. And uh if you ever have 450 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:41,119 concerns or you know depending on nap schedule, I've had four kids. I know 451 00:36:37,839 --> 00:36:46,160 that that that can be a thing that you know we'll there's also noise bylaws for 452 00:36:43,599 --> 00:36:49,520 how early we can start and stuff. So I'll give you my number. We can figure 453 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:54,640 out and if there's concerns you can call or text me anytime. 454 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:58,800 » I think that's most I don't know >> a timeline. I know it's going to take 455 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:02,800 » Oh yeah, it for sure won't be. It for sure won't be this year. Soonest would 456 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:09,280 be after road restrictions next year. So June, that'd be like the absolute 457 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:12,440 soonest it would happen. So >> thank you. 458 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:18,160 Uh I will before I close the public hearing ask one more time, is there 459 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:24,240 anyone else with comments, questions or objection to this file? 460 00:37:21,599 --> 00:37:27,040 Okay, seeing none, I will close the public hearing. Open the council 461 00:37:25,599 --> 00:37:30,960 meeting. Council, how would you like to proceed? 462 00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,760 » Council Speaker. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'll make a motion 463 00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:36,160 to approve. >> Second by councelor Heert. Go ahead, 464 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:40,560 Councelor Special. >> Uh, thank you, Mr. Mayor. I want to 465 00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:44,960 thank the applicant for uh presenting the plans clearly and also neighbors and 466 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:49,920 other residents for coming out and uh and expressing their their thoughts and 467 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:53,839 asking questions. Uh whenever we look at a potential resoning like this, we have 468 00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:57,680 a public hearing like what we're doing now where we hear the information that's 469 00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:01,599 presented and we do our best to come uh to a decision. Uh in this case here, 470 00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:06,480 there are a number of factors that point in favor of allowing the reszoning. Uh 471 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:11,280 one of those is that um uh there is already uh a property right behind it 472 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:16,880 that is currently zoned uh residential medium density. So, uh, the fact that 473 00:38:13,839 --> 00:38:20,800 this is right beside that that, uh, it's not it's not that uncommon at all to 474 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:26,960 have one residential property be a medium density property beside another. 475 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:31,040 Uh, the chain, this is a large lot, uh, much larger than your typical, you know, 476 00:38:29,839 --> 00:38:36,800 single lot that you're going to see built uh, happen now in Steinach. And 477 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:41,760 so, this large lot will now have 12 units. Uh on the face of it, going from 478 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:45,040 1 to 12 sounds like a lot, but in the world of medium density, it's actually 479 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:49,280 not a massive increase, especially when you consider the size of the lot. It's 480 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:55,839 only going to be twotory, which frankly many houses are two stories. And so, um 481 00:38:53,119 --> 00:39:00,640 you got 12 units on a large lot. That is not uncommon for a residential medium 482 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:04,880 density. Um as far as the question that was raised regarding traffic, uh well, 483 00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:09,520 what would the impact be? Well, my estimate would be that if you have 12 484 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:14,720 units, you'd probably have 12 cars. Um, so maybe 12 extra cars per day. Is that 485 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:19,200 likely to have a massive impact on Gizburg Street? No. I mean, there's a 486 00:39:17,359 --> 00:39:22,320 lot of traffic on Gizburg Street. A lot of people driving through Gizburg 487 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:25,520 Street. Frankly, with a lot of collector streets, the main traffic isn't actually 488 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,640 from the people who live right there. It's the traffic from all the people 489 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:33,200 that are trying to get from one place to the other that are going through there. 490 00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:36,720 And obviously we know that there are issues in the area. That's why we've 491 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:40,320 been lobbying the province for years to finally put those lights in. And they 492 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:44,720 the province says those lights are actually going in this year. And that's 493 00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:50,480 and that's good. But I we should not look at 58 G Street as a significant 494 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:54,640 impact on the traffic because again 12 cars that's probably what uh what the 495 00:39:53,119 --> 00:39:58,400 impact is going to be which in the grand scheme of thing is not is not a huge 496 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:02,000 difference. uh drainage concerns. I think been adequately addressed here 497 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:06,079 that um uh that whenever a property is redeveloped then there is a development 498 00:40:04,240 --> 00:40:10,480 agreement where water has to be held on the property and can only be released at 499 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:15,040 a certain a certain uh pace which the applicant has explained very well and 500 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:19,280 very clearly and uh the question was raised you know as far as why here and 501 00:40:17,119 --> 00:40:23,440 why not somewhere else. Well, it's always a question that that can be asked 502 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:28,320 whenever you have any kind of resoning. Um, and yes, it is true that when 503 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:31,680 developers build these types of properties, they are hoping to earn 504 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:36,079 money from it. But I want to be clear that if you don't have if developers 505 00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:41,599 don't earn money from projects, you have no development. So yes, the city has 506 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:45,440 plans. We have our we have our official community plan where we set this is what 507 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:50,000 the general categories are, where we expect growth to occur. We have our 508 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:54,400 zoning bylaw which is more specific as far as the exact zoning categories. But 509 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:57,839 the city doesn't do development. The city doesn't build neighborhoods. We 510 00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:02,240 don't build houses. It would be a disaster if we didn't have private 511 00:40:59,359 --> 00:41:06,000 developers. If we if we started saying no to every development and saying that 512 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:09,359 no, we don't want to we don't want to have development where developers are 513 00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:13,200 making money, we would just have no development. And so u not all 514 00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:18,000 developments are good. And that's why in a public hearing, um, developers and 515 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:21,359 neighbors don't know and how it's going to go until we actually have the 516 00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:25,440 hearing. But in this case, I think that when you consider that you have a medium 517 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:29,920 density property, uh, already right beside it, you already have uh, you have 518 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:33,680 a large lot. It's not a massive increase in density, you know, on a medium 519 00:41:31,359 --> 00:41:36,640 density to go to 12 units. The drainage will be addressed. It's not a 520 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:40,000 significant impact on traffic when you look at the grand scheme of things. And 521 00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:43,119 frankly, I think that the applicant did an extremely good job of answering the 522 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:46,240 questions and presenting a clear and comprehensive plan. So based on all 523 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:50,880 those factors, I think it's it's reasonable to approve the resoning. 524 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:55,440 » Thank you, counselor. Anything further? >> Yes. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I will first 525 00:41:53,359 --> 00:41:58,560 of all make uh a point that I live on one of those streets that has 200 526 00:41:56,720 --> 00:42:03,119 apartments right on my street and I'm okay with it. Actually, impacts, traffic 527 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:06,880 impact is actually not bad at all, and I have good neighbors down the street. Uh 528 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:11,760 there's it's a solid place as far as that goes. Secondly, I want to just say 529 00:42:09,839 --> 00:42:15,680 I agree with what councelor Sora has said, but the lot behind this lot is for 530 00:42:14,319 --> 00:42:19,200 medium density and there's going to be medium density there in the future. So 531 00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:23,920 they basically attach to each other. The fact that it is basically not against 532 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:28,000 any other property right now, I think speaks well for it. And as far as 533 00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:30,720 traffic goes, like councelor Swager says, I don't think that will be an 534 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:35,280 issue and especially with the lights going on on 52. So, no, I have I have no 535 00:42:33,599 --> 00:42:38,960 problem with it. I I appreciate the concerns that you all have and I think 536 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:42,240 at the end of the day, this will turn out to be a good good thing for the 537 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:45,200 community and for the neighborhood. Thank you. 538 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:48,000 » Anything further, council? Go ahead, council. 539 00:42:46,974 --> 00:42:52,880 [clears throat] >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh just a couple 540 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:56,800 comments. I'll vote in favor of of the motion as stated. Just a couple 541 00:42:54,720 --> 00:43:00,960 comments. Uh 52 feet from my patio door is a 542 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:06,560 three-story building. There's nine balconies that look on my deck, so I do 543 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:11,920 know what that feels like. And uh we moved there and uh there was an addition 544 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:16,800 done and I'm okay with it. Uh very okay with it. So I understand what it is, but 545 00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:21,520 I also stand understand the threat of somebody building in your neighborhood. 546 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:26,480 Uh it's very real and there are concerns and uh but they can be alleviated. I 547 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:30,640 appreciate uh the response by the developer. That's important. My son also 548 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:36,800 lives on Geese. He lives across the street from Mr. Wis and I know full well 549 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:41,280 the amount of water that flows down that street when when the creeks start to 550 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:45,359 back up in Steinbeck and that doesn't start in Steinbeck that starts in the 551 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:49,440 arm of Hanover and that whole creek backs up. It backs up a long way when 552 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:54,800 there's a torrential downpour. We're very flat and our streets become the 553 00:43:52,079 --> 00:44:00,720 collector. That's how we can't build pipes big enough to uh take all the 554 00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:05,280 water all the time. there's just uh not financially feasible. So there we we do 555 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:10,400 have a lot of water and I was driving down that street the last big rain. So 556 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:14,560 there those are also concerns but I also appreciate the fact uh our engineering 557 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:19,680 department our development agreement it works over and over it has worked where 558 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:24,560 only x amount of water is able to be released and it was explained as a 559 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:29,119 bucket with a hole in it. Uh that is one way to explain it but it does work and 560 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:32,640 uh hopefully it does work here too. Hopefully I say hopefully I'm also not 561 00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:37,760 an engineer. Uh but I've seen it it works and it works. One of the issues we 562 00:44:35,599 --> 00:44:43,040 have in Stein we have a lot of growth and uh growth is painful in many ways 563 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:49,280 and uh this is part of it. When we talk about infill we talk about uh what that 564 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:54,079 looks like. all these multif family homes going in in Steinbeck all over the 565 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:59,359 place and before they're completed they're full they're rented we don't 566 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:03,200 have vacancies in Steinbeck so uh it is also critical that we continue to uh 567 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,640 invite the people that live in Steinbeck I don't know where they all come from 568 00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:12,319 and I don't know where they all work uh and all those but I do know that uh we 569 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:17,520 look at our our long-term plan we look at our short-term plan on a on a yearly 570 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:22,960 basis during our study sessions and It is important that we continue to allow 571 00:45:19,359 --> 00:45:29,200 development. Uh we do deny developments in different areas when uh it doesn't 572 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:34,400 fit. But I do think that uh it does fit here for all the reasons that were given 573 00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:40,240 and also I appreciate the words from uh the contractor who has said yeah it's a 574 00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:45,280 walkability to to loan to a lot of the different uh businesses that are within 575 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:51,680 walking distance. >> Thank you. Anything further of councel? 576 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:54,960 Anything in closing? >> Well, I'd like to thank everyone for 577 00:45:53,280 --> 00:46:00,160 coming out like to thank for your comments and um you know some of the 578 00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:05,040 concern drainage is a real concern always is and that's why we are so uh 579 00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:09,920 our our staff work so hard at drainage and that's why we require all new 580 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:16,880 development to deal with the water on their own. And as as uh Mr. Loen said 581 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:21,040 it's Yeah. It's like it's like a filling up a bucket and letting a pinhole and 582 00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:28,960 letting it go out. That's that's how it works. Um Mr. Newfalt, um you talked 583 00:46:25,359 --> 00:46:35,520 about it being in our backyard. Um we we have moved but we a house we loved for 584 00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:43,760 many many years uh downtown here, 195 lumber. There was 72 units built behind 585 00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:48,480 us. Two two two buildings of 36. And yeah, you know what? It was scary 586 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:56,640 when it happened. It's completely scary, but we uh with with plantings, fences, 587 00:46:53,359 --> 00:47:00,240 um setbacks, it it was amazing how beautifully it worked, right? 588 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:03,040 » Pardon? >> You moved. 589 00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:06,960 » Oh, we only moved because we Okay, it was a health thing. We had to move. 590 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:10,000 Okay. Uh my wife developed bad knees and we couldn't do the stairs. It was a 591 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:16,960 two-story home. Otherwise, we'd still be there. We love that place. And um um 592 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:20,319 yeah, it um we hardly notice the traffic. Yeah, there it it should have 593 00:47:19,119 --> 00:47:24,319 increased the traffic, but we didn't notice it because the roads are built to 594 00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:30,400 take it. Um there's there's so many things. Council's hear the story many 595 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:36,079 many times. I'm saying this for you. Um Anna from 54 GB, we had a situation 596 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:42,079 where there was a huge tree on our neighbor's yard and it was starting to 597 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:46,079 really look bad. And so we asked them, we hired arborists. We asked them if we 598 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:51,599 could trim the tree. Arbor came in, trimmed the tree. It was very expensive. 599 00:47:49,839 --> 00:47:56,800 And uh they didn't want to, they didn't want to participate in the paying of the 600 00:47:53,520 --> 00:48:01,920 arborist. That tree because it hung over it was on their property, but it was on 601 00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:07,280 our property. It ended up being the most beautiful tree of them all because we we 602 00:48:05,359 --> 00:48:11,200 actually took care of the trimming and trimmed it correctly. I do believe that 603 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:16,640 Mr. loan will do the right thing with that tree as well. Uh I've never seen 604 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:20,400 that before where a developer said he's going to give you your his cell phone 605 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:25,359 number. You got a special thing there. I think you can work a great relationship 606 00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:31,200 out here with that. Uh but I do want to thank everyone for coming out. I do want 607 00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:35,839 to thank you for your concerns. But um when when you talk about like council, 608 00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:41,520 this happened to you as you can hear some of us. We've all had multif family 609 00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:46,160 in our backyard and multif family and single family dwellings can actually 610 00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:52,880 work and live very harmoniously together. They do. Uh and and we you've 611 00:48:50,319 --> 00:48:58,880 got 200. You've got I don't know how many you have, but we had 72. And it 612 00:48:55,359 --> 00:49:03,280 does work. So u call for the question. All those in 613 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:06,280 favor? Opposed? That is carried. Thank you. 614 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:21,280 We have 6B. This is variance V 202617. 615 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:26,480 This is referring to 210 Hover Road West. At this time, I will close the 616 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:33,240 council meeting, open the public hearing. Uh, Mr. Orcadine, can you 617 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:33,240 please introduce this file? 618 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:46,160 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. The application for variance under file V-20226-17 619 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:52,079 for 210 Hover Road West uh is being applied for by Leonard Frail, who also 620 00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:56,640 is the owner. Purpose of the variance application is to permit an east 621 00:49:53,760 --> 00:50:02,880 sideyard setback of 10.85 85 ft for an accessory building 622 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:08,720 uh in the DR2 development reserve 2 zone uh where that zone requires a minimum uh 623 00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:12,079 sideyard setback of 15 ft. Notices as are required under the planning act have 624 00:50:10,559 --> 00:50:16,640 been issued. There is no written correspondence on file. 625 00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:21,440 Uh the building location certificate provided uh shows an existing accessory 626 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:26,480 building on the site uh which already has a sideyard of 10.85 ft. Uh the 627 00:50:24,319 --> 00:50:32,720 proposed building is adjacent uh as shown on the site plan um which uh is 628 00:50:30,319 --> 00:50:36,640 the purpose of the uh proposed reduced sideyard setback. Recommendation for 629 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:40,240 council is to approve the application subject to any new information that is 630 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:45,920 presented. >> Thank you. Mr. Working is the applicant 631 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:50,640 here today. Do you wish to speak? >> Um I can 632 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:55,200 again I'll ask you to take the podium. >> Yep. My name is Leonard Frail, 210 633 00:50:53,280 --> 00:51:00,240 Hanover Road West. >> Have lived there eight years. 634 00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:06,800 » We have a very good relationship with the neighbor next door to us who would 635 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:11,359 be directly involved uh in this. And the main proposal for the the variance is 636 00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:17,359 just to line up the new building with the old building which has been there 637 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:22,880 guessing 80 years. Um it's a very old farmstead 638 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:29,359 and Yeah, the the line of stars on the bottom is is mature uh pine trees. 639 00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:33,599 They're about 30 40 ft high. Uh don't really want to cut those down. And so 640 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:39,280 that's why we kind of want to set it where it is. Uh the driveway that exists 641 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:42,400 is still from the old farmstead and so we're trying to keep it within those 642 00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:46,160 confines. >> Okay. 643 00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:50,079 Thank you very much. Uh any questions from council? 644 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:55,440 » Yeah. Thank you. Um, you can take your seat. Is there 645 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:59,400 anyone here with comments, questions, or objections to this file? 646 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:06,839 Is there anyone here with comments, questions, or objections to this file? 647 00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:15,119 I will ask one more time. Is there anyone here with comments, questions, or 648 00:52:11,839 --> 00:52:19,440 objections to this file? Seeing none, I will close the public 649 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:23,359 hearing, open the council meeting. Council, how would you like to proceed? 650 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:27,200 Councelor Semons. >> Motion to approve. 651 00:52:24,559 --> 00:52:32,559 » Second by councelor Susan Penner. Go ahead, Council Se. 652 00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:36,480 » In 2018, the city of Steinbeck annexed a lot of land from the a friendly 653 00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:41,040 annexation from the RM of Hanover. This was and then we accept all the different 654 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:44,000 variances and all the different properties that come with it. This is 655 00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:50,480 the property that came with that annexation and so uh what the rules that 656 00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:55,040 were under the arm of handover or 80 years ago potentially when this original 657 00:52:52,800 --> 00:53:00,800 building was built. So uh in my opinion this this works. The 658 00:52:59,359 --> 00:53:05,359 neighbors not complaining about it. They're h the neighbors are happy with 659 00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:11,599 it. It lines up uh with an existing building that was built uh many years 660 00:53:07,119 --> 00:53:16,880 ago and it's a rural property uh that has been under city jurisdiction since 661 00:53:13,839 --> 00:53:19,359 2018 and I think it works. >> Thank you. Any further? 662 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,400 » Nothing further. >> Anything further council? 663 00:53:21,359 --> 00:53:27,040 » Anything in closing? >> No sir. 664 00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:33,760 » Okay. Call question. All those in favor post? That is carried. 665 00:53:30,319 --> 00:53:42,559 Okay. Council, we have 6C. This is conditional use CU 2026-10. 666 00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:50,520 This is referring to 75 Industrial Road. It's on page 28 of our package. Uh, Mr. 667 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:50,520 Wing, could you please introduce this? 668 00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:57,640 » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Conditional use file application CU-2026-10 669 00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:05,359 for 75 industrial road is being applied for by Jordan Lohan. The owner of the 670 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:10,800 property is one21-661 Manitoba LTD. Purpose of the conditional 671 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:14,559 use application is twofold. Firstly, to permit the construction of an an 672 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:21,760 industrial multi-use site as per zoning bylaw 2245 industrial 673 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:25,280 multi-use uh is defined as a building established to accommodate a range of 674 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:29,839 primarily industrial businesses on a single lot with individual units that 675 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:34,160 can be rented or subdivided as part of a condominium development. And secondly, 676 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:39,920 to permit a caretaker's residence to be located on the subject. Uh, zoning bylaw 677 00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:43,760 2245 defines a caretaker's residence as an accessory dwelling on a 678 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:48,559 non-residential property occupied by the person or family who oversees or guards 679 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:53,119 the operation and it is a conditional use requirement under that zoning bylaw. 680 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:57,520 Notices as are required under the planning act have been issued. There is 681 00:54:54,559 --> 00:55:01,359 no written correspondence on file. Uh with respect to the application um 682 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:07,119 the subject property is located in the Steinbeck Industrial Park with land 683 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:12,160 surrounding uh the subject zoned M2 and nearby parcel zoned M1 light industrial. 684 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:17,200 Uh the report from the city planner provides comments with respect to the 685 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:21,839 subject property. Uh and uh in addition uh in the application the 686 00:55:19,839 --> 00:55:26,079 actual uses or tenants of the proposed facility have not been listed. uh and 687 00:55:24,319 --> 00:55:30,640 the application indicates the intention to permit multiple tenants with multiple 688 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:33,680 uses. Uh the application would not appear to have any negative impacts 689 00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:38,400 arising from the proposed multi-use component for the proposed caretaker's 690 00:55:36,319 --> 00:55:41,599 residence. If council is prepared to consider the approval, the applicant 691 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:46,480 should demonstrate that it is that its proposal in the M2 heavy industrial zone 692 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:50,480 is appropriate as this zone permits the po the most intensive types of 693 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:56,079 industrial development which may require substantial mitigation to avoid sound 694 00:55:52,960 --> 00:56:00,000 noise or odor impacts uh for the property itself or for neighboring 695 00:55:57,599 --> 00:56:03,440 properties. Uh council should also consider if approving this residence in 696 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:08,240 this circumstance would broaden the caretaker's residence provision uh 697 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:13,119 beyond the intended purpose and permit general residential use on an industrial 698 00:56:10,319 --> 00:56:18,480 property uh simply by associating the occupant with general site security or 699 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:22,480 oversight. Uh the definition uh that is provided in the zoning bylaw is quite 700 00:56:20,319 --> 00:56:26,319 clear and as the applicant intends to permit multiple tenants and multiple 701 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:30,079 uses on the site and the functional relationship between the proposed 702 00:56:27,839 --> 00:56:34,400 resident, the dwelling and an identifiable operation that is being 703 00:56:31,839 --> 00:56:37,920 overseen or guarded uh is not clear or determined. And accordingly, a 704 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:42,640 recommendation uh is for council to approve the proposed industrial 705 00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:47,839 multi-use component uh but to deny uh the proposed caretakers residents under 706 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:51,920 this application. >> Thank you, Mr. Morgan. Um the 707 00:56:49,839 --> 00:56:55,559 applicant's here, would you wish to speak? Sure. 708 00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:09,280 » Uh Jordan loan triple 4. Um yeah, the owner numbered company, but he 709 00:57:06,799 --> 00:57:16,640 owns Steak Fire Protection. Um it's a hold code that owns the property. Um his 710 00:57:12,319 --> 00:57:22,000 intent, um would be that he moves on to the property uh for a couple main 711 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:26,160 reasons. One of them, um he has a cabin, so he's there three nights a week 712 00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:30,720 through the year. Um he's got a house in Steinach as well, and to have the 713 00:57:27,839 --> 00:57:33,760 property as well is just a lot. Um, so he wants to sell his house and move on 714 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:39,040 to the property. This would be his primary residence as the caretaker for 715 00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:43,839 the property. Um, not all dissimilar than what Fern Fzen proposed uh, two 716 00:57:41,599 --> 00:57:48,160 Junes ago, I believe, which was passed unanimously just around the corner. 717 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:55,200 Never got built, but um, that's what he did. Um, Samic Fire Protection already 718 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:59,760 is an operating it's the key renter on this part. It's the only one he owns it. 719 00:57:57,359 --> 00:58:03,839 uh he wants to develop some other ones and uh he doesn't know who's going to 720 00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:08,240 rent them, but it would be like the typical, you know, anywhere from a 721 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:14,000 thousand to 2,000 square foot shops down there, whether they turn into man caves 722 00:58:11,119 --> 00:58:18,079 or light industrial or whatever. The reason for this original conditional use 723 00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:21,680 is just so the city enters into development agreement so these don't 724 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:26,240 turn into a wild west that you don't get retail and you have parking and you have 725 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:30,000 all your accessibility in the accessible bathrooms and all those things 726 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:34,559 ventilation that weren't happening on these properties. So, so yes, he does 727 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:39,839 intend to develop it. Yes, he intends to lease them, but he would be the one 728 00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:44,559 doing security on the site. Um, and his main business is the one operating there 729 00:58:41,839 --> 00:58:48,720 already. um up front as the existing building. Uh one of the other key 730 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:53,280 reasons he wants to do this is uh he's on call 247. 731 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:58,400 Um he does fire alarm testing and response for uh dozens, hundreds of 732 00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:02,640 buildings in southeast Manitoba. His tools, his equipment, his parts, and the 733 00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:09,119 keys to a lot of these buildings are secured in that building. So for him to 734 00:59:05,119 --> 00:59:12,559 travel to work and then to reduces his response time to a lot of these when 735 00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:18,160 bells are going at two in the morning in a multif family uh building. So that was 736 00:59:15,599 --> 00:59:23,920 one of the key reasons he uh wanted to do this as well. 737 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:30,446 Um yeah that was most of my points here. 738 00:59:27,839 --> 00:59:34,960 And uh yeah uh the other one he does [clears throat] get a lot of people 739 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:39,520 doorchecking here. Um, so to be on site with, you know, some cameras, motion 740 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:43,119 detector, early response for him to hit command start on his vehicle and scare 741 00:59:41,359 --> 00:59:46,720 someone off, that would that would be a lot of value to him to protect his 742 00:59:44,799 --> 00:59:50,960 business there. So that was the other point. 743 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:53,520 » Thank you. Uh, any questions of councel? Go ahead. 744 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:58,000 » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Where in relationship to these buildings is the 745 00:59:55,760 --> 01:00:02,319 caretaker suite going to be or is going to be a separate building? 746 00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:07,920 » Uh, no. It'll be in uh the first rectangle there to the uh above it. So, 747 01:00:05,839 --> 01:00:13,119 he'll be closest to his existing building in the first phase of what 748 01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:18,520 could be three back there. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 749 01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:18,520 » Okay. Anything further? 750 01:00:18,799 --> 01:00:27,720 » Okay. Is there anyone here with comments, 751 01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:27,720 questions, or objections to this file? 752 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:36,119 Is there anyone here with comments, questions, or objections to this file? 753 01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:42,640 I'll ask one more time. Is there anyone here with comments, questions, or 754 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:48,160 objections to this file? Seeing none, I will close the public 755 01:00:46,559 --> 01:00:51,920 hearing, open the council meeting. Council, how would you like to proceed? 756 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:55,520 » Councelor P. >> Uh, quick question. Is this supposed to 757 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:59,680 be two separate motions because there's two points or just do it all in one? 758 01:00:58,079 --> 01:01:01,680 » Uh, I think it can be done in one motion. 759 01:01:00,319 --> 01:01:05,680 » Motion. >> Okay. I motion to approve the industrial 760 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:11,520 multi-use component and to deny the proposed caretakers residence. 761 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:13,920 » Do we have a seconder? Councelor Heber. >> Go ahead. 762 01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:18,319 » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. The intention of the industrial park is not for main 763 01:01:16,079 --> 01:01:24,079 residences nor for man caves as far as that goes. Um, industrial parks are 764 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:29,680 exactly for what it says, industrial use. It is not an area we want to begin 765 01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:33,040 having residences. Um, and you know, if we approve this one, we are going to 766 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:37,200 start getting a steady stream of people just wanting, you know, a unit to 767 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:43,520 oversee their property. Um, that is not a direction I think we should be going 768 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:48,640 um with this uh with our industrial parks at all and obviously not in this 769 01:01:45,839 --> 01:01:52,160 situation either. Thank you. Easy President. 770 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:56,160 » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh I did uh go buy that property and have a good look and 771 01:01:54,000 --> 01:02:01,599 it's a very large property that can accommodate multi-buildings 772 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:06,799 on that on that lot there. Obviously, what we have is multi-buildings. We got 773 01:02:03,359 --> 01:02:11,599 multi-tenants and we have multi-uses. U this sounds more to me like a sort of a 774 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:16,960 warehouse project. But when it comes to the the development of the caretaker 775 01:02:13,839 --> 01:02:21,839 suite, I know reference was made to the condominium 776 01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:28,480 subdivision just to the to the to the east. Uh but that one was one where the 777 01:02:24,799 --> 01:02:33,760 developer was in agreement and uh the uh nobody in the subdivision there objected 778 01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:38,000 to it. It's uh and it's a very small sub subd district, but like [clears throat] 779 01:02:35,839 --> 01:02:45,680 I said, it's a condominium development in uh this case. uh to have a actual 780 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:51,599 residence on that lot. This is not a I I don't 781 01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:58,079 I I don't see how this is a caretaker's suite other than it's a straight a 782 01:02:53,680 --> 01:03:03,440 residential uh as as uh mentioned here and therefore uh to have a residence in 783 01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:06,880 the light industrial I object to. So as the motion was made I agree with the 784 01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:11,359 whole motion. Anything further of councel? 785 01:03:09,839 --> 01:03:15,359 » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I I will support the motion. I'll just note here that 786 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:19,119 this is uh the particular zoning here is M2 heavy industrial zone. So, it's not 787 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:26,079 even light industrial. It borders light industrial. Um but um uh sorry, the 788 01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:32,640 Yeah. So the when you consider the industry uh that we want to attract 789 01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:36,319 having residential properties within our heavy industrial zone or industrial zone 790 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:41,119 in general is not the direction that we want to go. So I do agree with the uh uh 791 01:03:39,599 --> 01:03:45,920 certainly we want the development to proceed. That's why the motion is uh is 792 01:03:43,839 --> 01:03:50,319 approving that but not the caretaker's residence because um that the point of 793 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:54,000 industrial is not to have uh is not to have residences there especially heavy 794 01:03:51,839 --> 01:03:56,960 industrial. >> Thank you. Anything further? Anything in 795 01:03:56,559 --> 01:03:59,440 closing? >> Nothing further. 796 01:03:58,079 --> 01:04:05,079 » Call for the question. All those in favor 797 01:04:01,599 --> 01:04:05,079 that is carried. 798 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:10,880 Council >> will move now to uh nine administration. 799 01:04:09,039 --> 01:04:15,119 We've got the counts payable back at the book. All had a chance to review. 800 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:20,000 Looking for a motion to approve. Councelor Heert. Second by councelor 801 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:24,400 Heert. Call for the question. All those in 802 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:30,880 favor? Opposed? That is carry. Council, we have the 9B financial statements for 803 01:04:27,119 --> 01:04:35,680 ending in July 31st, 2026. Also back of the book, looking for a 804 01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:39,599 motion to approve. Councelor Heert, second by councelor Stevens. 805 01:04:37,359 --> 01:04:44,960 » No comment. Call for the question. All those in favor? 806 01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:54,160 That is carrying. We got 9 C. This is reszoning bylaw 2273. 807 01:04:49,119 --> 01:05:00,000 This refers to 492 498 and 506 McKenzie Avenue. Council, this is third reading. 808 01:04:56,559 --> 01:05:02,640 Starts on page 38 in our packet. Mr. Wareen, can you please introduce this 809 01:05:01,839 --> 01:05:08,720 file? >> Uh, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Bylaw 2273 was 810 01:05:05,359 --> 01:05:14,079 a proposed reszoning bylaw for uh 492 through 506 Mckenzie Avenue and the 811 01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:21,839 public hearing uh was completed some time ago. Uh the uh required um 812 01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:27,599 development agreement uh and conditions for uh for the file uh have now 813 01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:31,039 proceeded and are nearing completion. And uh with that, administration is 814 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:34,960 prepared to recommend that council approve third reading to its bylaw 815 01:05:33,119 --> 01:05:39,359 subject to the execution of the development agreement. 816 01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:42,319 » Okay. Thank you, Mr. Wharting. Council, how would you like to proceed? Councelor 817 01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:46,640 Heert. >> Motion to approve 818 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:52,720 » by Councelor Heert. Go ahead, Councelor. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. As indicated, this 819 01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:56,079 uh is the third reading. first and second reading were in March and in 820 01:05:54,480 --> 01:06:01,920 April of this year we had the public hearing and uh again just to uh relate 821 01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:06,319 to this property. There's three three properties in question. Two of them have 822 01:06:03,599 --> 01:06:11,599 buildings on there right now and uh there's a church to the rear. I call it 823 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:16,960 a transition zone to the east and we have Bosch is to the northeast and 824 01:06:14,319 --> 01:06:22,799 there's number of medium density housing in the area. I believe it fits in well 825 01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:26,160 into the area and uh I continue to support this project. 826 01:06:24,319 --> 01:06:29,599 » Thank you. Anything further? >> No further comment. 827 01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:31,680 » Anything further council? >> Anything in closing? 828 01:06:30,559 --> 01:06:36,640 » Nothing. Thank you. >> Call for the question. All those in 829 01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:42,559 favor? That is carried. We got 9D. This is subdivision 4451 830 01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:47,520 2026 9284. 831 01:06:44,079 --> 01:06:55,599 This is Heritage Parkway and uh it starts on page 48 on your uh 832 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:58,720 in your packet. Mr. Waring, could you please introduce this file? 833 01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:02,119 » Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor. Subdivision file 4451-26-9284 834 01:07:03,039 --> 01:07:10,480 uh is being applied for uh by a Bergen on behalf of Steinbeck Campus 835 01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:16,319 Foundation, Inc. Uh the uh subject property is located on uh Heritage uh 836 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:22,480 Parkway. Uh as it is vacant, it doesn't have a specific uh um civic address as 837 01:07:19,839 --> 01:07:26,960 of yet. Uh but the proposal seeks to subdivide the subject property uh to 838 01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:31,839 accommodate an institutional facility development. The subject property is 839 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:35,680 zoned EI educational and institutional and it is designated as institutional 840 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:40,720 policy area under the city's official community plan. Overall site is about 841 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:44,880 1.4 4 acres. The proposal seeks to create one new lot from the existing 842 01:07:42,319 --> 01:07:48,400 parcel and the existing parking lot on the site was created prior to the 843 01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:54,319 opening of Heritage Parkway as a public road and serves the adjacent uh Eastman 844 01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:58,160 Education Campus facility. Uh it is uh recommended that council approve the 845 01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:03,920 application under this file subject to the approval of the required variance 846 01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:08,319 for the site area of proposed lot 2 and subject to the city's required uh 847 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:13,280 development fees policies and servicing requirements. 848 01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:15,520 » Thank you Mr. Wine. Council, how would you like to approve 849 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:19,520 sir? >> Motion to approve. 850 01:08:16,799 --> 01:08:21,520 » Second by council uh Susan Penner. Go ahead. 851 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:25,679 » Uh thank you Mr. Mayor. In this case here, the uh as was noted, the applicant 852 01:08:23,839 --> 01:08:30,319 uh is seeking to subdivide the property to for uh in into uh there's an 853 01:08:28,799 --> 01:08:35,279 additional lot. This accommodates institutional facility development. Um I 854 01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:39,839 think uh uh this has been explained well by our city manager in terms of the 855 01:08:37,839 --> 01:08:43,920 basic application. I don't see I don't have any concerns. Uh this is of course 856 01:08:41,839 --> 01:08:49,279 subject to uh to a variance for proposed law too, but uh I think it's appropriate 857 01:08:46,159 --> 01:08:53,600 to approve the subdivision. >> Yeah. when areas uh we come across this 858 01:08:51,279 --> 01:08:57,839 regularly when areas are being developed initially there's you know a guesstimate 859 01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:04,239 so to speak of what's going to be needed where and uh it's not uncommon for uh 860 01:09:01,679 --> 01:09:08,640 developers to come back to us and say you know we've noticed supply demand has 861 01:09:06,159 --> 01:09:13,120 shifted or you know something's changed or we have an opportunity so it's very 862 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:18,799 common for us to approve you know changes to um development areas so I'll 863 01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:23,759 support the motion >> thank Thank you. Anything further? 864 01:09:21,920 --> 01:09:28,319 Anything? Close it. Call for the question. All those in favor post. That 865 01:09:26,319 --> 01:09:34,239 is carried. 9F. This is reszoning 866 01:09:31,279 --> 01:09:39,279 bylaw 2286. This is referring to 282 Henry Street. 867 01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:43,679 Now, council >> E. 868 01:09:39,759 --> 01:09:49,440 » Oh, sorry. E re Okay. Reszoning bylaw 2281. Got ahead of myself here. 330 869 01:09:47,359 --> 01:09:55,360 McKenzie Avenue. This is also first reading. This starts on page 71 on our 870 01:09:52,640 --> 01:09:58,480 in our package. Mr. Warin, could you please introduce 871 01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:04,080 this file? >> Uh, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Zoning by 872 01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:09,280 2281, as you mentioned, for property at 330 McKenzie Avenue, uh, is seeking to 873 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:13,840 reszone the subject property from RLB residential low density to RMD 874 01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:18,640 residential medium density to permit multif family construction on the site. 875 01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:23,040 Uh it is recommended that council give this bylaw first reading so that a 876 01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:28,400 public hearing on the matter may be scheduled for later this uh fall. 877 01:10:26,239 --> 01:10:31,719 » Thank you Mr. Council. How would you like to proceed? 878 01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:38,800 » Council Per. >> Uh motion to approve. 879 01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:45,679 » Second by councilman. Go ahead council. >> Yes. the um approving first reading just 880 01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:49,600 means that it opens the what you know what's in question uh to 881 01:10:48,159 --> 01:10:53,520 have a public hearing so we can hear from the neighborhoods. It's not a 882 01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:58,239 decision on the actual project but it just opens it up uh to hear what the 883 01:10:55,840 --> 01:11:03,760 neighborhood uh has to say about the project and after that is when we decide 884 01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:08,480 what will happen. >> Thank you. Anything further council? Uh 885 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:13,920 just very briefly, this is a lot that's uh one of the areas that uh we talk 886 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:23,040 about frequently as on councils there. It's a it's a very deep lot in a on a 887 01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:27,520 collector street and that often causes uh us issues with how to develop that 888 01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:33,199 and uh and the neighboring properties. So it will be interesting to see what 889 01:11:29,199 --> 01:11:35,760 comes out at uh public hearing. >> Anything further council? Go ahead, 890 01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:40,880 council. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I realize this is 891 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:48,159 going to uh public hearing. Uh I did look at the lot. I went there and I do 892 01:11:43,360 --> 01:11:52,080 have some concerns as to uh right now the uh I'm not quite sure that it fits 893 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:55,520 into that area. And like I said, some of this will be discussed at the public 894 01:11:53,840 --> 01:12:01,280 meeting. But I also noticed there's a house in the back that empties or onto 895 01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:04,960 the church parking lot. I don't know if anybody noticed it's in the bush there 896 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:08,800 right at the very back of this property. Might even be on this property. There's 897 01:12:06,480 --> 01:12:13,280 a barn or a shed on there as well. So, I'm listening to I'm looking forward to 898 01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:17,960 uh hearing what the uh developer has to say about that. 899 01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,960 » Okay. 900 01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:23,760 Anything further council? Anything in closing? 901 01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:28,960 » No. >> Call for the question. All in favor? 902 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:34,960 Opposed? That is carried. We have 9F. This is reszoning bylaw 903 01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:40,320 2286. This is referring to 282 Henry Street. 904 01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:43,040 Again, this is also first reading. Mr. Warint, could you please introduce this 905 01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:49,679 file? >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Bylaw 2286 for 288 906 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:53,760 Henry Street is also a proposed resoning for the subject property from RLD 907 01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:57,920 residential low density to RMD residential medium density. again to 908 01:12:56,000 --> 01:13:05,120 permit the construction of a multif family building uh on the uh subject. Uh 909 01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:08,880 it uh again is recommended that council give this bylaw first reading so that a 910 01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:13,280 public hearing may be scheduled for later this fall. 911 01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:17,120 » Thank you Mr. Wing. Council, how would you like to proceed? Councelor Swagster. 912 01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:20,480 » Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'll give a make a motion for first reading. 913 01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:25,360 » Do we have a second or second by councelor Bill Heert? Go ahead. 914 01:13:22,159 --> 01:13:29,920 » Uh thank you, Mr. Mayor. As uh uh often happens, this is an application to 915 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:33,280 reszone from residential low density to residential medium density. This is 916 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:37,440 first reading, which means that if we give first reading that it enables a 917 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:40,400 public hearing to be scheduled and so it's at the public hearing that we'll 918 01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:43,120 hear from the applicant and also from the neighborhood. 919 01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:46,800 » Anything further? >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh it seems like 920 01:13:44,960 --> 01:13:50,080 everybody wants to go from low density to medium density and this is just 921 01:13:48,239 --> 01:13:53,440 another one, but uh we look forward to the public hearing and see what the what 922 01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:57,920 the neighborhood has to say. Thank you. >> Thank you. Anything for Go ahead. 923 01:13:55,520 --> 01:14:02,560 » Again, I'd like to voice some concerns I have regarding this development here. Uh 924 01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:08,000 Hospital Street is a very busy street. It's the emergency vehicles uh going to 925 01:14:05,199 --> 01:14:13,040 the hospital, the police, and uh much of the area is low density. Traffic is very 926 01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:17,280 heavy in that area. We've as council, we've also talked in the past about even 927 01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:22,239 making that a one-way street. That didn't go very far, that conversation. 928 01:14:19,440 --> 01:14:25,679 But, uh, I do have concerns, uh, of the heavy traffic and I'm just wondering if 929 01:14:24,239 --> 01:14:30,400 we shouldn't have that traffic steady before that building goes in because 930 01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:34,960 it's 12 units. >> Okay. 931 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:38,080 Anything further of council, anything closing? 932 01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:41,920 » Uh, just very briefly, Mr. Mayor, I'm sure that uh, Council He will raise all 933 01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:46,440 these things during the public hearing uh, when second reading is being 934 01:14:43,440 --> 01:14:46,440 considered. 935 01:14:46,480 --> 01:14:54,400 » Yes, council. Um this is why we have first reading so it can go to a public 936 01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:58,159 hearing so we can um invite the neighborhood if there are any that have 937 01:14:56,159 --> 01:15:03,520 concerns or questions. This is where it all gets talked about at at the uh and 938 01:15:01,440 --> 01:15:10,800 but it starts here at first reading. Call for the question. All those in 939 01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:15,760 favor that is carry. We have G 9G. This is Adeptus Advisory Group Charter 940 01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:21,520 Professional Accountants Inc. This is their proposal for auditing services for 941 01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:26,880 December 26th. And we got to do this by resolution. We've had them uh they've 942 01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:32,480 been doing our uh our audits for for a few years now. Uh I think we've been 943 01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:38,719 pretty happy with this. And this is a uh this is a quote for what the audit will 944 01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:42,440 be for 2026 if I'm correct. Council, how would you like to proceed? 945 01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:52,880 » Motion to approve. Second by councelor Hebert. Go ahead council. 946 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:57,199 » I'm excited to that the future council read what the audit will be. 947 01:15:55,040 --> 01:16:02,127 » You sound like it. [laughter] >> Future council. 948 01:15:59,679 --> 01:16:06,080 » I can't add to that. Thank you. [laughter] 949 01:16:03,440 --> 01:16:10,400 » Okay. Call for the question. All those in favor? 950 01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:14,159 That is carried. Council, we have come upon council 951 01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:17,320 question period. Are there any questions of councel? 952 01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:26,880 Seeing none, we'll move on to correspondence petitions. We've got 11A 953 01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:31,199 on page 102. This is the uh Royal Bank of Canada temporary structure request. 954 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:34,320 Uh council, how would you like to proceed? Take his information at this 955 01:16:33,199 --> 01:16:38,080 time. >> Do we need a motion? 956 01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:40,719 » We need a motion. >> Have a question. 957 01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:47,840 » Okay. >> Yeah, we need a motion. 958 01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:52,480 Okay. Um, Mr. Worky, would you introduce this file? 959 01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:57,920 » Yes, I can gladly do so. Uh, this one is unusual. It was uh not quite certain 960 01:16:55,520 --> 01:17:01,040 where in the agenda to uh present this and it landed up in correspondence, but 961 01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:04,640 I do have a report. >> Okay. 962 01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:11,360 » Uh there is a unique uh along with the letter of request uh there is uh it is a 963 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:18,640 unique circumstance. Uh the existing uh RBC location at the corner of Rhymer 964 01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:23,120 Avenue and Main Street uh is uh a fairly old property and the building has been 965 01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:27,360 built uh essentially to the rear property line. While there is an 966 01:17:25,199 --> 01:17:32,560 existing exit door that exits the west side of the property uh due to some 967 01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:40,480 operational considerations, uh the uh management of RBC has 968 01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:48,960 requested permission to install uh a u an accessible um 969 01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:56,560 ramp at that exit door uh for uh life safety uh uh considerations for its 970 01:17:52,320 --> 01:18:03,199 staff. uh as this uh proposed location of the accessible ramp would be on a uh 971 01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:07,600 u formal public rightway and essentially a roadway. Uh this is unique 972 01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:15,600 circumstance. It uh it doesn't follow fall under normal uh permitting uh or 973 01:18:11,520 --> 01:18:20,320 land use um application provisions. Um the most similar scenario that uh 974 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:26,159 administration could come up with was the uh temporary or seasonal permit uh 975 01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:30,480 or permission that council has approved for the main street uh patios on main 976 01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:37,120 street of which there are three uh presently uh functioning in Steinach. Um 977 01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:44,800 recommendation from administration is that council could uh consider this uh 978 01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:49,600 request u in a similar manner. Um and uh with respect to uh to the ask uh it is 979 01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:54,560 recommended that council approve this request for an accessible ramp uh for 980 01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:58,480 emergency use only uh to be permitted on the public roadway at the location 981 01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:03,199 identified uh subject to an annual administrative permit application review 982 01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:08,159 and approval process. >> Thank you Mr. Council. How would you 983 01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:09,920 like to proceed? >> Council Pinter 984 01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:15,440 » motion to approve. >> Second by councelor Heert. Any comments? 985 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:18,239 Well, this may be complicated uh from an administrative perspective in terms of 986 01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:23,280 figuring out where this goes. I think it's st pretty straightforward in terms 987 01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:28,960 of an accessibility perspective. Obviously, we want um our you know 988 01:19:27,199 --> 01:19:32,800 buildings infrastructure in our community to be accessible and this is 989 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:38,880 particularly important because it's for emergency use. So, I think it's actually 990 01:19:35,199 --> 01:19:41,920 a relatively straightforward request. Um and in addition, if you look at the 991 01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:47,360 photos, there's a dumpster right there. It's not like vehicle traffic is going 992 01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:50,719 right by that door. Anyways, that is why I made the motion. 993 01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:54,560 » Thank you. Anything further? >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I think safety is 994 01:19:52,960 --> 01:20:00,560 probably the word that we're looking at here and emergency ramp would definitely 995 01:19:57,679 --> 01:20:07,199 fall to that and uh as councelor Penner has stated the the reasons are they make 996 01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:11,679 sense. So, I would definitely approve. >> Council, thank Mr. Mayor. I'll support 997 01:20:09,679 --> 01:20:17,360 this as well. I mean, I think that if we are going to approve um patios on city 998 01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:23,040 rightway, I don't think it's unreasonable to have a similar allowance 999 01:20:20,159 --> 01:20:28,360 for a ramp for accessibility and safety. So, absolutely, this is an easy one to 1000 01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,360 approve. 1001 01:20:28,719 --> 01:20:33,280 » Anything further, council, anything in closing? 1002 01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:38,159 » Well, I I do have maybe one question. Um, in terms of having to get a permit 1003 01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:42,080 every year, is that reasonable or can we just approve it and can just or is that 1004 01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:46,080 just an issue because we don't know where it fits in? 1005 01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:50,960 » Administratively, it is preferable that it's subject to an annual permit. Uh, 1006 01:20:48,480 --> 01:20:56,000 there are specific operational uh conditions that exist today uh that 1007 01:20:53,679 --> 01:21:00,480 didn't exist before and that could also change in the future. Uh, and then it uh 1008 01:20:58,159 --> 01:21:02,960 it it permits the uh the ramp to be removed if it's no longer required at 1009 01:21:02,239 --> 01:21:08,400 some point. >> All right. Thank you. 1010 01:21:04,239 --> 01:21:11,520 » Okay. Okay. Well, council, I I also agree with all the comments that have 1011 01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:17,040 been said. So, call for the question. All those in favor? 1012 01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:23,280 That is carried. We've got uh 11B, the St. Rat Rosa watershed 1013 01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:29,840 district minutes of June 16th, June 17th, June 23rd, July 20th, and July 1014 01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:32,480 21st. Uh, council, how would you like to proceed? Take his information at this 1015 01:21:31,440 --> 01:21:38,159 time. >> Thank you. There's no other business. 1016 01:21:34,480 --> 01:21:41,840 Looking for a motion to adjurnn. >> Councelor Heert, second by councelor 1017 01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:46,239 Semons. Call for the question. All those in favor? Opposed? That as carried. Next 1018 01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:49,880 regular council meeting is Tuesday, September 15th.