1 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:05,360 It's 5:30. Welcome to the November meeting of the Planning and Zoning 2 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:09,680 Commission. Thank you all for being here tonight to call this meeting to order. 3 00:04:07,519 --> 00:04:13,040 The first up is the citizens general discussion. There's anybody here who 4 00:04:11,599 --> 00:04:16,320 would like to speak to the commission regarding something in general regarding 5 00:04:14,879 --> 00:04:20,400 planning and zoning, not something specific to any agenda item tonight, now 6 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:25,199 would be the time to do so. Does anybody wish to speak? All right, I'll go ahead 7 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:29,120 and close the citizens general discussion. Next up is the approval of 8 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:34,000 minutes. We need to consider the approval of October 15, 2025 meeting 9 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:38,400 minutes. Commissioners, >> so moved. 10 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:44,160 » Second. >> All those in favor of approving the 11 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:48,160 October meeting minutes. Say I. >> I. 12 00:04:45,919 --> 00:04:54,400 » All right. Next up, uh, application number RZ, uh, 9272. Applicant Lee 13 00:04:52,240 --> 00:05:01,040 Bristo representing Summer Moon Equity is requesting a resone for property 14 00:04:56,160 --> 00:05:05,360 located at 957 Prey, parcel R3220 being block one, lot 2B of the kite 15 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:11,600 second edition of the city of Stevenville County, Texas from R1 single 16 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:15,039 family residential to R3 multifamily. Mr. Kellen, 17 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:21,759 » thank you madam chair and commissioners. Um Mr. Bristo is requesting R3 zoning in 18 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:27,520 his application. He indicated that he's looking to build town home style energy 19 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:32,479 efficient housing. Uh because he mentioned town home, I did reach out to 20 00:05:30,479 --> 00:05:39,120 the applicant and mention to him that the R3 zoning is more for multif family 21 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:44,639 and the R2.5 would be the zoning requirement for town home construction. 22 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:48,800 He indicated at that time that um he was pretty comfortable with the R3 zoning 23 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:52,720 and wanted to leave it as um presented on the application. And so just wanted 24 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:56,960 to make that point that he and I have had that that conversation and I believe 25 00:05:54,720 --> 00:06:01,520 he's here tonight and he can speak to that in more depth. Uh relating to the 26 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:04,720 type of construction. The future land use for this property is complete 27 00:06:03,199 --> 00:06:09,440 neighborhood and the intended project would fall within that designation. GIS 28 00:06:07,759 --> 00:06:13,759 is showing this portion of Fry to have approximately 44 foot of rideway. 50 29 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:17,919 foot is required. So there may be additional rightaway dedication uh based 30 00:06:15,919 --> 00:06:23,840 on the survey once he gets to that point. Um, it's a flag shaped property 31 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:29,520 with 75 ft of frontage. The depth is approximately 224 foot deep. Contours 32 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:36,479 indicate the property is fairly flat. Sewer is shallow but at 56 in deep. So 33 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:41,600 we believe um based on you know what I learned through my meetings with public 34 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:46,479 works that the connection to that sewer line because of the depth should give 35 00:06:43,840 --> 00:06:51,199 them adequate fall without having to consider any type of lift station or 36 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:56,000 anything of that nature. Um again applicant is present tonight and 37 00:06:53,840 --> 00:06:58,319 I'd be glad to answer any questions of the commission and thank you madam 38 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:02,080 chair. >> Thank you sir. Any questions for Mr. 39 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:07,199 Kellen? With this being a multif family, the 40 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:14,080 amount of parking that's going to be there is going to need a retention 41 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:19,919 area for water. Uh during the review process, he will be required to provide 42 00:07:15,919 --> 00:07:23,039 a drainage analysis and u possibly a full civil plan set with 43 00:07:21,919 --> 00:07:26,560 detention. Yes, sir. >> Okay. [snorts] 44 00:07:25,199 --> 00:07:32,000 » Other questions? >> Well, it's not a question. I went by 45 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:36,960 there and it it just so it'd be the only town home 46 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:41,360 in that on that street in that area. It looks like I'm just saying from it it 47 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:44,160 would look like a really tight >> spot. We'll save that for discussion. 48 00:07:43,919 --> 00:07:50,639 Yes. >> Yes, sir. Okay. Uh any questions for Mr. 49 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:56,639 » All right. I'm going to go ahead and invite uh Mr. Bristo 50 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:58,720 come on up and um give us a description of what you're planning on doing doing 51 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:07,120 on this property. >> Yeah, it's really just a six unit uh two 52 00:08:01,759 --> 00:08:10,720 floor uh uh town home apartment style building is what we're going for, but we 53 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:14,400 just wanted to make the most of the space because it is a bigger lot. 54 00:08:12,879 --> 00:08:16,400 » Okay. So, you're looking to build apartments, not town homes, 55 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:21,280 » correct? Yeah. >> Okay. Uh so, six units, how many beds? 56 00:08:19,199 --> 00:08:24,000 Uh, three bedrooms each, two and a half bath. 57 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:28,800 » Six units with three beds each. >> Yes, ma'am. 58 00:08:25,199 --> 00:08:32,560 » Okay. Um, all right. Other questions? 59 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:35,839 Where are you thinking of putting the parking? 60 00:08:33,279 --> 00:08:37,760 » Uh, on the front because it is a flag shape. So, the buildings will go on the 61 00:08:37,279 --> 00:08:40,640 back. >> Back and then the parking would be Yes, 62 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:43,360 ma'am. Where where the house is right there. 63 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:46,560 » Yes, ma'am. >> All right. Thank you, sir. 64 00:08:45,279 --> 00:08:50,240 » Okay. I'm going to go ahead and open a public hearing. Is there anybody here 65 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:54,880 who wishes to speak in favor or against this reszone request? 66 00:08:53,839 --> 00:09:00,279 All right, I'll close the public hearing. Commissioners, we need a motion 67 00:08:56,640 --> 00:09:00,279 and then we can discuss. 68 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:05,880 » I recommend a council denial of RZ 20225-9272. 69 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:13,200 » Second. >> Okay. 70 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:17,519 Uh thoughts? How many parking spots would that be? 71 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:23,360 six >> uh depends on the type of operation. So 72 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:33,519 if it's student housing, we're releasing it by the bed, it would be 1.5 spaces 73 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:39,200 per bed, so 27. If it's if it is uh just straight rental, not necessarily for 74 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:45,880 student housing, it is two parking spaces per dwelling unit. So that would 75 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,880 be 76 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:51,959 at six. So you have 12 12 if it's just straight. 77 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:58,000 » I don't think there's enough space for just the parking alone there. 78 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:01,600 » We have on our preliminary >> sorry 79 00:10:00,959 --> 00:10:03,440 » um >> any other 80 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:09,200 » I think >> I just noticed the say it just seemed in 81 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:16,320 my opinion a little out of place for the other residents around and it's such a 82 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:22,000 crowded area. That's just my opinion. >> Any other uh thoughts? 83 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:26,079 » I think it's uh 2.5 will fit better in this situation and the parking 84 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:30,800 really needs to be in the back from here on out with any kind of property shapes 85 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:34,079 like these because the parking up front is going to end up on the street and 86 00:10:32,399 --> 00:10:39,120 that's a very busy street to be done. So, 87 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:45,040 » all right. Any more discussion? All right. Uh all those in favor of 88 00:10:41,839 --> 00:10:47,440 recommending to council denial of this reszone request say I. 89 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,880 » I. >> Those opposed. 90 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:56,880 » All right, gentlemen. So, this goes forward to city council uh the first 91 00:10:54,640 --> 00:11:01,920 Tuesday of the month. So, you want to present your case to them there and uh 92 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:08,160 they'll make the final decision on this. Thank you for coming tonight. All right. 93 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:13,640 Application number RZ 9272 consider approval of Oh, excuse me. 94 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:22,160 Uh, application number A9119. Applicant Earl Ingram representing South 95 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:25,792 Texas Cement LLC is requesting the assignment of industrial zoning for the 96 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:31,600 recently annexed property known [clears throat] as 365CR177, 97 00:11:28,959 --> 00:11:36,240 parcel R78588 being approximately 5.01 1 acres of the 98 00:11:34,399 --> 00:11:40,959 A0804 Williams MR survey of the city of 99 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:44,880 Stevenville County, Texas. With the assignment of zoning, the commission is 100 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:52,160 requested to recommend extension of the ETH ET ETJ and subsequent revision of 101 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:54,800 the Steven 2050 comprehensive plan. Mr. Keller. 102 00:11:53,200 --> 00:12:00,480 » Thank you, Madam Chair. Commissioners, this parcel was voluntarily annexed on 103 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:04,959 August 5th, 2025 by the city council. Uh we went through the legal notice 104 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:09,519 requirements for that hearing. Um and the council again did vote to annex this 105 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:14,639 property based on the voluntary uh petition. 106 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:20,480 Based on chapter 15404C of our city ordinance, once a property 107 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:25,440 is annexed into the city, uh we have six months to assign zoning and we are not 108 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:30,800 able to issue any building permits until we do have assignment of zoning. looking 109 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:35,440 at the way that area is developing and the type of projects that we see uh 110 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:40,079 coming to these properties, uh we are recommending industrial zoning. Um the 111 00:12:38,560 --> 00:12:43,680 future land use is complete neighborhood, but that's just not how 112 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:49,440 it's been developed up to this point. And so as we work our way east and and 113 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:54,720 north, uh that future designation would probably be something to to give more 114 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:59,839 consideration to. But given the development along 281 and on this side 115 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:04,399 of the railroad tracks with the high fam industrial park, we feel industrial is 116 00:13:01,839 --> 00:13:07,040 an appropriate designation. Be glad to answer any questions. 117 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:10,160 » Thank you. Any questions for Mr. Khan? >> Is this where the current railsburg has 118 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:13,440 been added into? >> That's correct. And they've already been 119 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,360 working on this area. >> That is correct. 120 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:22,320 » Okay. >> Why are we being asked to recommend an 121 00:13:18,079 --> 00:13:28,720 extension of the ETJ? Isn't the ETJ automatic when you annex property? 122 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:32,800 » Great question. Um, you can go every time you annex property, you have a onem 123 00:13:31,839 --> 00:13:35,360 distance, right, >> from the edge of the property that is 124 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:38,639 annexed. >> So that's automatic, right? 125 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:42,800 » We don't have to decide it. >> Well, with the comprehensive plan, it's 126 00:13:40,639 --> 00:13:48,399 good to include it in the recommendation so that I see it's part of the Yes, sir. 127 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:52,000 So the the motion if when it goes through needs to include the extension 128 00:13:50,639 --> 00:13:56,240 of the ETJ. >> Yes, ma'am. 129 00:13:52,560 --> 00:13:59,040 » And uh and we are approving. We're not recommending to council, 130 00:13:57,680 --> 00:14:02,079 » but we're recommending to council. >> You're recommending it's a 131 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:07,920 recommendation to the city council for the zoning and the extension of the ETJ 132 00:14:05,839 --> 00:14:12,160 and also the update to the comprehensive plan which is a land use document. So 133 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:16,079 technically needs to have a public hearing. 134 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:20,079 » Okay, got it. Thank you. Um, uh, is Mr. Ingram here tonight? 135 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:23,920 All right, we'll go ahead and open a public hearing. Is there anybody here 136 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:27,920 who wishes to speak in, uh, favor or against this resone or this zoning 137 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,720 request? Close the public hearing, commissioners. 138 00:14:29,519 --> 00:14:37,199 We need a motion. >> I recommend a council approval of a 919. 139 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,399 » Second, as recommended. >> As presented 140 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:43,600 » or as presented. >> Thank you. And, uh, 141 00:14:41,519 --> 00:14:48,440 » I'll second. All right. Uh, any discussion? 142 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:57,680 » All those in favor of re recommending to council um application number A9119 as 143 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,760 presented say I. >> I. 144 00:14:58,079 --> 00:15:05,800 » Those opposed. >> All right. Next up, 145 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,800 uh, 146 00:15:06,399 --> 00:15:13,760 » the [cough] committee assignment. Correct. Um, 147 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:18,880 The development services committee has uh committee assignment 111-92025. 148 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:22,480 The development services committee has tasked the commission with the review 149 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:27,600 and subsequent recommendation regarding the home occupation guidelines of 150 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:30,639 section 154.03 of the zoning commission. Mr. Keller. 151 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:37,040 » Thank you, Madam Chair. Commissioners, HB 2464 became effective upon the 152 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:42,639 governor's signature on June 12, 2025. And this bill established parameters for 153 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:48,639 for what is referred to as a no impact homebased business. And that designation 154 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:56,240 prohibits local government from being able to provide or regulate a no impact 155 00:15:52,000 --> 00:16:01,759 home occupation. And so reviewing our current home occupation guidelines, 156 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:08,320 there's an opportunity to where we could step across that um new regulation from 157 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:13,040 the state that we cannot regulate those homebased businesses. So what we are 158 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:17,440 recommending is an amendment to our existing code. And so I have in here 159 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:21,199 your existing home occupation guidelines, which basically uh in 160 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:26,079 essence what that's been meant in the past is that if you have a home 161 00:16:23,199 --> 00:16:31,120 occupation that doesn't violate these seven criteria, then you could operate 162 00:16:28,639 --> 00:16:35,759 that homebased business without having a conditional use permit. If you did 163 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:42,560 violate one of those seven criteria, you would have to come to the PNZ and city 164 00:16:38,639 --> 00:16:48,000 council uh to request a home with our occupation conditional use permit. 165 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:52,720 Because of the new language in this bill, which is now a law, effective June 166 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:57,920 12th, again, this definition, what we're recommending is that we repeal our 167 00:16:54,480 --> 00:17:01,600 existing lang language, add a no impact homebased business definition, which 168 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:06,319 I've le listed there for you, which is directly out of the state code, and then 169 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:10,640 add a violation clause that if you have a business, basic basically, I'm going 170 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:16,319 to paraphrase, if you have something other than a no impact homebased 171 00:17:13,199 --> 00:17:19,679 business, uh in operation without a conditional use permit. It's a violation 172 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:23,839 of city ordinance. This has been reviewed by our city attorney and also 173 00:17:21,439 --> 00:17:29,360 by our development services committee and uh they again assigned it to PNZ for 174 00:17:27,199 --> 00:17:32,080 review and re recommendation back to the full council. With that be glad to 175 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:36,240 answer any questions. >> Thank you sir. Any questions for Mr. 176 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:40,960 Cohen? >> Um so when we make the recommendation we 177 00:17:38,799 --> 00:17:44,480 need to say that it's amending the section 154.03 178 00:17:43,360 --> 00:17:49,440 03. >> Uh, Commissioner, I believe I I would be 179 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:54,240 comfortable with just um making a recommendation to um adopt the proposed 180 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:57,240 amendments as presented. >> Okay. 181 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:02,640 » Any other questions? >> We'll go ahead and open a public 182 00:18:01,120 --> 00:18:07,520 hearing. Is there anybody here who wishes to speak for or against these uh 183 00:18:05,679 --> 00:18:14,559 proposed u recommendations? 184 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:20,160 Close the public hearing. Commissioners, >> I recommend that we or I propose that we 185 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:29,039 recommend a council approval of assignment 111 92 025 with proposals. Is 186 00:18:27,120 --> 00:18:33,559 that right? >> That work. 187 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,559 » As presented. 188 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:45,679 » Okay. All those in favor of recommending to council as presented. this committee 189 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:48,720 assignment and uh uh recommended amendment say I 190 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:52,480 » those opposed. >> I'm I'm going to abstain. I'm an 191 00:18:51,039 --> 00:18:57,120 affected party. >> Bruce is going to abstain. Got it. Thank 192 00:18:55,600 --> 00:19:03,360 you. That goes forward council with positive recommendation. Last up, uh 193 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:08,799 application number PD 9339 PD update. Troy Kungl, owner of 598 Westwood LLC, 194 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:14,480 and co-owner Ree Flanigan are providing an update to the plan development PD for 195 00:19:11,679 --> 00:19:20,160 property located at 817 West Washington, parcel 29583 of city edition, block 62, 196 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:28,240 lot 6A7, parts 14 and 17, 855 and 865 West 197 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:33,440 Washington, parcel R29 581 of city edition, block [snorts] 62, locks four, 198 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:38,720 part of five and 6B and 873. West Washington parcel R29580 199 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:43,120 of city edition block 62 lot 3 of the city of Steenville US county Texas Mr. 200 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:47,280 Yeah, >> Madam Chair, I'm so glad you read those 201 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:51,760 in. Thank you for that. Uh, commissioners, 202 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:54,720 on August 15, 2021, the applicant presented a conceptual plan to the 203 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:59,360 planning and zoning commission for an intended town home development. PNZ 204 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:06,080 recommended the city council approved the PD, which occurred on December 2021. 205 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:11,039 In March of 2023, city council approved a modified development schedule and a PD 206 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:16,880 update was also provided in November of 2024 and accepted by the commission 207 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:22,799 that's attached in your uh packet this evening. The applicant is now returning 208 00:20:19,039 --> 00:20:28,480 with his annual update as required by city ordinance and I will be happy to uh 209 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:33,039 announce and steal some of your thunder. Um the civil plan set has been approved 210 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:36,640 for this project and they are uh actually starting construction at this 211 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:43,039 point which I'm sure is in his his schedule. Uh but Mr. Rearen uh was 212 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:50,240 authorized to speak as a representative for 598 Westwood LLC by the owner, Mr. 213 00:20:47,039 --> 00:20:54,880 Tory Kungl. And I have that email in my file. Um so with that, Madam Chair, be 214 00:20:53,520 --> 00:21:01,280 glad to answer any questions. Thank you. >> Thank you. Any questions for Mr. Kell? 215 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:04,280 Mr. Rearen, would you like to >> Sure. 216 00:21:09,679 --> 00:21:14,880 Um, so do you guys want me just to go over the schedule? Is that what we want 217 00:21:14,559 --> 00:21:19,039 to do? >> Yeah. Yes. Just give us an update. 218 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:24,240 » All right. So, we've um, like I said, we've just gotten approved to proceed 219 00:21:21,039 --> 00:21:29,600 and, uh, we have, uh, people on site right now. for involved with the site 220 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:33,360 utilities. Um so we've got I don't know if you guys have that schedule that I if 221 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:38,720 that's handy if you're if you're looking at it but anyway so um one of the things 222 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:46,080 we got approved from public works uh is a kind of phase one phase two uh because 223 00:21:42,559 --> 00:21:50,080 these are going to be for sale and so um we are going to do all of the horizontal 224 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:53,600 construction everything in one shot phase one and 225 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:57,679 two. So, right now we're doing site utilities, 226 00:21:55,280 --> 00:22:01,840 uh, the turn lane, all the all the public improvements. Then we'll be 227 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:06,400 grading, surveying, getting ready to set form boards and pour our concrete, our 228 00:22:03,919 --> 00:22:10,080 site concrete, all that stuff. Sight concrete, foundations 229 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:14,880 east to west, the whole property we're going to do, but we're only planning 230 00:22:12,559 --> 00:22:20,080 right now for phase one going vertical on those buildings five and six. And so 231 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:28,799 that's that's what we plan to have um completed uh by that um May May 8th of 232 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:35,520 26. We should have all of the 11 units in FA shown in phase one completed by 233 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:39,840 then. And you know hopefully um shortly thereafter we'll begin vertical 234 00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:43,600 construction on phase two. So >> thank you sir. Do commissioners you have 235 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:47,200 any questions for Mr. Ren? Uh, I'm kind of wondering about the 236 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:51,840 rideway easement that's supposed to be in included in this. How long will that 237 00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:56,240 construction last? >> Um, so are you just talking about like 238 00:22:54,320 --> 00:23:02,880 uh in the text dot rightway? >> No, into the uh property behind 239 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:06,320 » property behind um >> believe he's speaking about the access 240 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,320 to property. 241 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:11,200 » Yeah, the temporary road access that we have going into the mobile home park. Is 242 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:14,320 that what you're saying? Well, how long till the 243 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:20,400 » Oh, till the 40 foot shared access is done. Yes. So, that should be um let's 244 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:27,440 see what we got here. I have to blow this up a little bit. 245 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:34,559 Concrete. So, we should be done by I would say mid uh midFebruary. So, 246 00:23:32,559 --> 00:23:39,600 be a few months we'll be done. So, we'll get that first that phase one concrete 247 00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:44,400 complete, which includes that 40 foot shared access easement straight shot 248 00:23:41,919 --> 00:23:47,840 back into their uh their development there, the mobile home park. And we'll 249 00:23:46,159 --> 00:23:50,000 we'll leave a little bit of a a turnaround for the fire marshal in 250 00:23:49,226 --> 00:23:53,600 [clears throat] case they have to get in there and turn around and then so we're 251 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:57,760 going to pour that, let it be curing out, and then we'll start forming the 252 00:23:54,880 --> 00:24:01,440 rest of the site concrete. So, um I would hope by midFebruary 253 00:23:59,919 --> 00:24:04,640 we're done and they they've got that opened opened up, you know, clear 254 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:09,440 access. >> And then the access that you have around 255 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:12,960 right now, is that going to be able to support a fire truck? 256 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:17,679 » Uh yes, yeah, we just got that approved by uh Brandon Lockenour. 257 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:21,679 » And uh I didn't see his email yesterday, but I just answered that before we came 258 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:24,400 in that we're good. Um it should hold up just fine. We're going to reassess it 259 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:27,600 after this bout of rain we're getting ready to get next week. We'll look at 260 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:33,039 it. If we need to bring in more base and recompact, we will. We'll keep that 261 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:39,600 maintained. So, um you know, it's safe. And we're also planning on uh I guess on 262 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:43,279 the south side on our side of the road, we're going to put more construction 263 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:47,200 fencing up so nobody's, you know, wandering off into construction. We're 264 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:50,720 not impeding under the road. We'll leave that just basically for the the mobile 265 00:24:49,279 --> 00:24:53,200 home park. >> Yeah. 266 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:58,159 I think he's >> madam chair if I may. Um 267 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:02,559 » city staff on the preconstruction meeting we did uh mention to the 268 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:10,559 developer that we were adamant about site safety and working with Missto on 269 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:14,400 access. Um the all road all weather access to the back of the property has 270 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:20,720 been reviewed by the fire marshall as he mentioned and so we have a path forward. 271 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:26,480 Mr. Rearen received a call from Miss Sceto on Monday. I reached out to Mr. 272 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:31,039 Rearen and put the two of them in communication and uh they had a great 273 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:37,440 conversation from my understanding and I think they have a a good path forward 274 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:42,240 with Miss Aceto on accessing her property, making sure that her her 275 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:46,720 residents are not impacted negatively other than this temporary construction 276 00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:50,000 part that they're going to have to deal with. But absolutely appreciated you 277 00:25:48,799 --> 00:25:54,159 making that phone call. >> Yeah, you bet. Yeah, we'll make we'll 278 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:57,840 make sure we can uh you know stay on good terms with them and uh you know 279 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,240 minimize the disruption to their their property. So 280 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,240 » absolutely. >> Thank you, sir. Appreciate your time. 281 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,360 » You bet. >> Uh I'm going to go ahead and open up a 282 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:13,360 public hearing. Is there anybody here who wishes to speak in favor against 283 00:26:07,679 --> 00:26:17,679 this um request to uh or this update? Is there going to be a turn into that 284 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:19,279 property? >> Yeah, 285 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:23,440 » that's very >> sir, if you can come up to the um come 286 00:26:21,919 --> 00:26:27,120 up to the podium so that the people online can hear you and state your name 287 00:26:25,039 --> 00:26:31,520 and your address. >> Dean Scott and I'm representing my 288 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:36,960 stepmother. She lives on 782 West Green Street behind that the street over from 289 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:40,480 We got a letter in the mail and I just wondering if there I don't know are 290 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:45,039 y'all going to put a turn in off the highway into the property cuz that's 291 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:50,640 right in front of the school that thing when school that's out it's very 292 00:26:47,919 --> 00:26:53,919 » it's a nightmare down and that's why I'm just asking. 293 00:26:51,440 --> 00:27:00,320 » Yeah. And plus the parking, are those people going to be able to park on that 294 00:26:57,679 --> 00:27:05,039 access going into the trailer park? You know, you know that. 295 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:08,799 That's basically what I'm wondering. >> All right. Thank you, sir. Appreciate 296 00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:12,080 it. I'm going to go ahead and allow Steve to answer that. 297 00:27:09,919 --> 00:27:18,000 » Uh, thank you, Madam Chair. So, during the review process, uh, yes, the 298 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:22,320 Washington Street has a 100 foot rideaway requirement. the developer was 299 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:27,440 required to dedicate additional rideway and we'll be making road improvements 300 00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:31,679 along that dedication and that will include the turn lanes as 301 00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:37,600 you mentioned the access easement itself is a private access easement and the 302 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:42,320 what I recall on how that was drafted many many years ago I believe at the 303 00:27:39,360 --> 00:27:49,440 turn of the century it is uh it cannot be blocked um by residents of the town 304 00:27:46,159 --> 00:27:55,039 home development so all of that the actual access easement and I'm going to 305 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:59,840 use the term policing of that is not really a city function. It would be a 306 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:04,640 civil matter. But again, we have a good working rapport with the developer and 307 00:28:02,159 --> 00:28:09,360 the owner of that property currently. >> That's highway though. That's 377. 308 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:14,799 » Well, I understood you were asking me about the access from 377 to the the 309 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:17,360 trailer park and that's a private access. 310 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:24,000 » I was just wondering if there going to be turn 311 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:29,120 » along 377. Yes. Yes, sir. Along 377 >> along Washington Street, there will be 312 00:28:25,679 --> 00:28:34,640 an improvement of the roadway to allow a wider road and a turn lane. 313 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:38,640 » All right. Thank you, sir. All right. Uh, anybody else wish to speak? 314 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:42,640 » I'll go ahead and close the public hearing. Commissioners, 315 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:47,279 » recommend the council approval of this update. 316 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:52,159 All second. >> All those in favor of 317 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:57,600 » Madam Chair, just kind of rule of procedure here for this um after 318 00:28:55,279 --> 00:29:01,840 reviewing the ordinance more and the way we've handled it recently. The only 319 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:07,279 reason this would have to go to PN or I'm sorry to city council is if the 320 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,159 commission chose to not accept the update. 321 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,120 » Okay. >> Okay. I'll amend it. Just approving this 322 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,919 update. >> Thank you. 323 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:18,320 » All right. So, do we have to we have to vote on that amendment first or can we 324 00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:20,399 vote on the whole >> uh vote on the amendment first? 325 00:29:19,679 --> 00:29:25,840 » Okay. Okay. >> All right. So, uh 326 00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:32,000 the the uh the amendment that stands is uh simply 327 00:29:29,679 --> 00:29:37,679 um we are approving the update as stands. All those in favor say I. 328 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:44,480 » I. Those opposed and then the original motion of uh recommendation of approval. 329 00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:50,880 All those in favor say I. I. >> All right. So that is our entire agenda. 330 00:29:48,399 --> 00:29:53,679 Ladies and gentlemen, I need a motion to adjourn. 331 00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:57,799 » Second. >> Thank you everybody for coming out 332 00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:57,799 tonight.