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to mind seeing which is oil, it's septic, it's septic. I just want to reach

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up there.

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I mean I can go through each one. I've got quite a few to just save on time.

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Need more time of it than I can strike the things that I want, that I can add the things that I want,

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and then produce a paper, but.

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Or quickly. Okay. Before you do, I would like to have Richard

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I think the end of my toe would probably be okay.

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It's just right. I'm certainly not in a position right now to say I really like this because I don't.

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There's too many things in here that I really don't think should apply to us.

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Okay, well, let's just say on page one, five, interpretation.

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There's a quite a lot of community of development for purposes of the chairman of the head

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because the size of building or the medical, something like this, that whole paragraph doesn't seem so.

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The fit when we have a trigger of 1200 square feet, trigger site plan review.

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Because we count a trader of $1200 square feet, so a $1200 square feet is usually a trigger.

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Do 600 feet for five years?

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Was that they could do 600 feet for five years to get $3,000 square feet?

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Well, under our trigger.

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I think that's why you're adding this kind of historical view.

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Otherwise, I mean, is that what you're trying to do?

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I could see people playing that game and doing $1,000 to the year just so it doesn't trigger.

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And then four years later, we have a $4,000 square foot mess.

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Yes.

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The 1200 square feet.

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I mean the 1200 feet then we wouldn't have that at all.

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Well that would be the one year.

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Correct?

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That's on the 1200 feet.

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I just want to make sure.

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That's an 8-1 time.

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It's an 8-1 time.

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It's 1200 feet at one time, but one time it just says you should consider cumulative development

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as the one time.

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You should look back five years.

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My question was how would we do that?

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That would be easy enough if we had a building for the pre-each of these.

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But in terms of their rating and clearing, how they're part of it, yeah, honestly, I don't think we'd be able to do it because somebody's going to do it.

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Or we have been 600 square feet.

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Yeah, you would think, though, at least for a property of equal importance, right?

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You know, in grading, people are going to push here. We've talked about this in the past. They're going to push you around right now.

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No, they don't get a permit.

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You're right.

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There's no permit.

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And buildings, if not now,

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the assessor should be catching up

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and they've got the assessor.

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The assessor is mostly going by the permits.

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That's what the interview's going to be tax pass.

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By this bio, how about this?

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Resumption of discontinued use for building entity.

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Is that a page two?

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So

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basically what that's saying is if the use that was in the prior is discontinued for

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24 consecutive months and that will trigger a change of use and you'll go to site plan

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review.

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So it's always been our thing in town that once it was there that it can stay but if we're

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going to put a limit on it I think 24 months is kind of a short period of time that goes

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three to two years is a very proof period of time to stay,

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sometimes takes these properties in town,

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a year plus to self.

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Right.

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I've put you multiple years.

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I hit, if the consensus was that there was to be

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a restriction like that, I had five years.

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That's what I wrote.

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If I were to say, what's in agreement with that?

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Because we've had a situation, we've had a situation

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like that, we've had a situation like that now

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across the street.

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I'll reach it.

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Right.

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Yeah, so it was office for years and years and years and then all of a sudden I wanted retail again, and there was thought there would be site clean review

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Until some documents were found years ago. It was it was retail one-point time

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Would you have wanted

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I didn't think it was

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But it's just an example, if you wanted them to think that in a case like that it was necessary for them to

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completely go through the whole thing with the site plan and everything else whereas retail had been before, it might have been 15 years ago.

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Like I think it's more of a first stuff that's like that's currently grandfathered in, like somebody's operating a gas station that's not supposed to be there and that goes dormant for two years.

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So when it buys it wants to keep it back, it gets me out of the way, because it owns

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this gas station. That hasn't been in use for years.

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And years plus? It's been a while.

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If Henry's gas station plus, so if they wanted to start an operation,

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it would realistically come in for years to be a limit to that.

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So somebody can't say, yeah, but when years ago, I retelt to me,

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it's relatively benign, especially in town. I don't know too many things to have.

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But I do think that there should be some sort of limit to a five years.

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That makes sense.

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That would be a reasonable amount of time if everybody's in agreement.

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There's some more thing on special permits around.

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Special permits run with the person that they gave them to.

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I mean, like if it's something that they don't have a permit.

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And we, you know, a lot that they're using for storage of materials

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on a commercial lot that they would need a special permit, but they were doing it before we put that into that.

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So their grant probably didn't have that.

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If they stopped storing the materials, then they started again five years later.

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So they then need a special permit?

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I would say that they would.

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For us, it would need site plan review.

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We don't do the special permits on that.

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So they require a permit for that.

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It tends, I think, we're looking at site number review.

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They would need a permit if they had a change in use, if they hadn't done it for five years, they should be pulling the permit.

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Well, that's what I'm saying.

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It would be a change of this mode of shit.

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So if there was a permit on the at one point in time, property gets sold, that person can't do the same thing.

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if a special permit was involved they would have to get

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to be finally get their own.

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But if you were to think of your questions,

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if you were to walk away from that

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and then come back in five years and those six years

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and try and do it again,

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according to what we have,

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you would have to now get it safely revealed.

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Well, I wonder if, so if someone changes

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and his business wife,

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his change of use,

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but not really a change.

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But even if it's the special permit,

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goes away.

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That's the whole thing where we had some properties in town. The new person has to

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need to do the same thing. I mean, you're special. Yes, that's true. If I can, one thing's the example

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for the blood. Something's in retail use, winter offers, and now we'll go back to retail

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I remember I could put it into the zone and by law, that if the use requires side-time review, but if the channel plan turns, that there's no additional parking part from it, then side-time review. So in that case, my guess is, that's the type of determination that you might. If I thought it was going to be a more intensive use and require more parking, then I put it through a little side-time review.

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construction

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site management operations plan. I really didn't have much on this at all. I kind of just kind of ex-nated.

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I'm not quite sure how you would even enforce anything like this post-construction with somebody's in there.

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A plan for kitchen waste management storage disposal, frequency of pickup grounds, management including mowing, snow removal and care,

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landscaping of care for trees, plantings, and gardens, noise, odor, and dust mitigation measures.

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So how was your apology?

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You would manage something on somebody's own and make rats.

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I think they did.

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So for though, because if you look at Onyx, we would require them to do dust mitigation.

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They find the plant.

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That's fine.

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On sick ones, like...

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Not everything.

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Not everything.

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I would get rid of the plans for rubbers for cycling and kitchen management.

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We don't need to get into that, but grounds management in terms of a plan for maintaining

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the landscaping on an ongoing basis, I would want to see something like that and the

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building commissioner could enforce that.

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And isn't snowmobile hasn't that come up in certain parking designs because they had to

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Well, we always on site plan review. They always put where they're going to

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group it. Right. And we always make sure this makes it a requirement. I didn't know

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we had it. It always is. Yeah. So if we took care of this, if we took

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ground management, common care of completing snow removal and care of

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landscaping cares for trees and plantings and gardens, we just get rid of

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Number one, we have the only thing that we have been doing for larger commercial stuff is

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showing more dumpster work out.

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Correct?

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This part of the cycling.

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But we don't need to know that it's being hemmed together.

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It's a week, right?

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I was just mentioning that we have a big watch office and that residents will come on routine basis.

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So I do like the, I mean, the rummage recycling, I like scheduled hours and at least scheduled hours, like we're not going to have noisy machinery showing up outside of these houses.

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We're not open but we're going to pick up the trash and do it more, we'll be like that's

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a function of it.

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I've never seen you guys put a condition regarding how it was about operation on any site

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plan.

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In my brief time here.

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It definitely can't be that undercut time for you.

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Yeah, CBA.

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Clicked on it.

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Further stuff.

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This is what I was saying.

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So to me at least I get the question I'd like to know and I'm not going to do it

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doing the morning, but to me it's not part of their zoning and their hours

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that are being decided, at least by the CDA. So we picked up the trash that's

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not how it was operation and we don't have big things like the big why and

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stuff like that with something like that may happen. They're pretty small. People just

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putting up 35-50 scope.

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They put down the trees a bit a little bit.

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Two in the morning.

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That's what I was hoping it could happen.

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These things like everything we don't have something in there

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it seems like someone takes that as an opportunity to do it.

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I agree.

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All right, so we're X-Name1.

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And then on two grounds management including mowing snow removal and care of landscaping

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so you want to keep care of landscaping, including care of landscaping, care for trees,

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plant insurances.

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If you just take out mowing commas snow removal,

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take out the mowing sound removal, and we're

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And so you just include in care of landscaping,

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care for trees, plants.

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If you're talking about pickups and other deliveries

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or whatever coming outside of business items,

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wouldn't that be part of the notice?

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Is what would be part of the real estate equipment?

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Well, any noise.

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Yeah, so I'm sorry.

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We don't have a lot of noise.

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We don't have a lot of noise.

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When I talk about dumpster truck coming in two in the morning,

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that to me is, you know,

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what do you make a noise?

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It's one of you creating issues.

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If you get a good truck, yes, and be quiet, please step, the food mark trucks come

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seven morning. We'd like to go over, they start coming two, three morning, hiding, three hours

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to move to terms, especially. What else you got, Carl?

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Okay, so we were cool with the rest of the requirements for submissions,

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requirements

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for submission. Now it's way back at the beginning, right?

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No, we just, we're just on, we're just on 3B, 80, what else?

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I mean, so there's stuff here that I don't see in site plans that we're asking people to put like photographs of the site, including existing buildings I've never seen building photographs in a plan.

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Yeah, no.

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The proposed building elevations, we can see over those, those are...

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Let's go through his comments.

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The answer to that is no, I'm not.

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There's even a section here that refers to section 8D, but there is no section 8D here.

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I couldn't find it, so I don't think it's here, so like miscellaneous typos and stuff like that.

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I'm just going over them.

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These are the things that I would be going over after the most obvious ones.

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development impact statement, a complete development impact statement done in five, which will include the

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following, lead development impact statement, form a cadet's B, an environmental analysis, which provides

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description and evidence. These are the things that I had that should belong with the board health,

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and then the environmental assessments of the things that I had that would belong with the conservation

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commission. Yes, we have septic analysis goes right up right now to pay day is right here.

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Where was it? I think the, you know, just, oh, it comes right here.

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Change use submissions. Right.

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Two pages away. Some

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of these issues here, one I got is the D traffic

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impact analysis. We've had to discuss those before in certain cases. Yeah, it wasn't going to be

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as ordered by the board or something like that.

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Is it not the conditional section?

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Because I put a traffic impact.

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It's in here a few times.

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Traffic impact analysis.

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Is it general analysis?

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It just created traffic impact.

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I had back roads there where it said, shall be performed as I had put in, may be performed.

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That might be.

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Yeah, that's a little further up in 11.

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Well, if you remember the comment I made on it,

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I would rather not tie a traffic impact study to specific roles like Route 14622, because we do get minor processes.

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That's what I have.

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That's what I have.

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I would rather have it based on the trips generated.

241
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The bill for the item 383 under 11.

242
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Hold on.

243
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Which page?

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8-7, 8-3, 8-7, 8-3, 11-8-3, that's how I would keep 400 vehicles.

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Yeah, I'm just saying get rid of 11-8-1, that's basically right.

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That's what I'm saying.

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That's what I'm talking about.

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on your dress, at 200, then that would trigger this impact assessment on the track market.

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So, okay, so I actually just, yeah, that makes sense, that, and

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underline, it does.

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Oh, okay.

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So, before we move on, under 90, I mean, if we can say a project's anticipated traffic impacts

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based on IPE bracket generation manual so that they know that's the manual we're gonna be sizing them up against.

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They have a trip generation manual for a zillion and one land uses they have trip generation data

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tied to each land use and that's what I would expect in the use for calculating their projected number.

256
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Okay, so you've got to be putting that in the pocket, don't know where you're going to get the reference mark on that.

257
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The car mentioned 9C, taking that out.

258
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Yeah, because we don't want to do that.

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That's not what it would have put out.

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Yeah.

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Something about this a lot, just before we move on.

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I thought we talked about this, our most heavily impacted road to our 1-40-12.

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And we're now looking at 400 vehicle trips per day or 50 vehicles per week out.

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If you put 48 semi-trailers on 62 or 140 an hour at night in the morning, no one would

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be able to go anywhere.

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So what I'm saying is, I think those thresholds for it, in certain cases may be so high.

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Like, if there's a long mark with a set of lights and other stuff, I say, yeah, 400

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It works 50, but my worry is, I mean, it's something like onyx,

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I'll betcha onyx is under 50 vehicles per week out of the day period

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of tremendous amount of traffic.

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So, I mean, it's horizontal for truck traffic.

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Something in the way that, let's plan my approach to this.

273
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We're both waiting.

274
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I mean, I'm talking about onyx, for example, if you have 50 times

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I'm going to take some out of the columns.

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I don't know.

277
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It doesn't matter.

278
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No, I know that.

279
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But it would be more damaged and rugged than it would.

280
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They have a limit to weight when they weigh in at the station.

281
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I think we should let a tonnage be in our earth for a moment.

282
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Okay.

283
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I'm pretty good at it.

284
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One page five.

285
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Yep.

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Under 90.

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The reason 90.

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One page five.

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The work way is.

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The tracking factor analysis is a general analysis.

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of carbon and just weight. In fact, their IT generation may be 200 vehicles, but a hundred

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of those may be truck truck trucks at peak peak. And this is your service. And that would

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then go back to on page 7, 11, 8, 4, 5, 6, and 4 determines based on rear view. So, an

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that that's how we have we have we have we wrote that in right based on that 11 4. So, yeah, you're not talking about

295
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50 cars at a date here at 9 a.m. You're talking about

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55 summary trails pulling out into the town center. We're

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Yeah, that's

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Okay, so maybe we put it in a specific anticipated traffic impacts both truck traffic and worker vehicles based on ITE traffic generation manual, something like that.

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truck traffic and other vehicles, because maybe the residential development that has

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doesn't have it to be able to do this.

301
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What else have you got, Carl?

302
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Okay, so that would be 11A. Okay, so a threshold project meeting either the thresholds below

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shall provide or may have to try to leave it optional. I think it may have to, then no one will

304
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I love to provide it.

305
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Everything has to mean we would say yes, you have to know you don't.

306
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That's all right, so we're not getting asked for a waiver on it.

307
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So the project is me to need a threshold.

308
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I feel like maybe that's for a waiver.

309
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Yeah, my concern is they have to would be that we're going to...

310
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We want to see what we've had repeated here by the public to say, well, why do they have to do it, but they didn't. And now they don't realize because they're completely different projects or that our will say it's okay to have 400 cars a day on this road, but not on that.

311
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I think I can better track any more.

312
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We won a waiver because of the ABC.

313
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We all agree.

314
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I'd rather someone come in and throw their week behind it

315
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and say, hey, this is our analysis.

316
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We're not going to do this.

317
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We're not going to do this.

318
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But we're going to do this for the semi-true.

319
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We have to make the case in the waiver request.

320
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

321
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We've got our engine here to say, yeah, that's bullshit.

322
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Or yeah, I'm going to move on.

323
00:30:40,900 --> 00:30:45,580
Okay, I want to pay seven with discussing traffic studies.

324
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Thank you.

325
00:30:48,300 --> 00:30:53,800
So what are we doing with designating specific roads?

326
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Are we eliminating that like we were talking about?

327
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I thought we had this discussion of who just added those during one of our sessions.

328
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And the very first session.

329
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,120
Yeah, because these we said these are the roads that we have the most issues.

330
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So now maybe I'll just do down there a little bit lower threshold for those roads

331
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Like so it's still a really a minor project they don't I mean they could get away

332
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My thing was the waivers, yeah, I'm building a convenience store. There's only two parking spots like this to be like on your way

333
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But I just hate to say that

334
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You know, like this parts are 12

335
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62 and 140 that are already horrible

336
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Again if they give us their traffic generation numbers

337
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It's all the compassing. No matter what road it's up to.

338
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So they do the generation numbers we don't need that.

339
00:31:42,460 --> 00:31:44,700
Okay, I completely understand one can be a move.

340
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,540
Well, I've been telling it on one board tomorrow, in Princeton.

341
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They're closing more in the road. It's all the compasses

342
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because they're doing some good wiring in the road.

343
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They're closing the road.

344
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So, I don't know.

345
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What else do you get?

346
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A couple of small fails to see on 8-9-B, we have a tip proposed to grab in for the

347
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43-8-4-3-8.

348
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Yep.

349
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They're not doing workloads.

350
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Cast out.

351
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Spelling.

352
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All right, 11.

353
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Down at the bottom, 3.

354
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For one minute of buffers.

355
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You might as well do a little bit of this between different uses when it proposes development

356
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and conflicts with an adjoining

357
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resident to use proposed

358
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developed which include a buffer

359
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along the joint property lines

360
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and the formative division set

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forth.

362
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With the insolent

363
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I think it may be the word

364
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conflicts.

365
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,480
Why are we assuming it conflicts?

366
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:58,620
Yeah, I think that's the

367
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truth.

368
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It defines the one and two there.

369
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What completely new

370
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enough?

371
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So remember, remember the zoning

372
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amendment for the performance

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zone where we're making a revision

374
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to the dimensional table and where we require

375
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requirements, a 20-foot buffer for any commercial

376
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or industrial property, and a bunch of residential use.

377
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,840
I think that is just at it.

378
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This is 25, this one.

379
00:33:30,580 --> 00:33:32,160
Oh, that's just from all of you.

380
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The first one, too, point one, which is the commercial

381
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industrial.

382
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,400
So, page 11, number one, that there is

383
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So I'm three, eight, one.

384
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Schmerz Schlafs industrial development tools

385
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that are joined to the joining residential development.

386
00:33:51,740 --> 00:33:52,300
So, no, no.

387
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,260
What he said that the buffer is 25 feet of feet.

388
00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:55,740
It applies to both.

389
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That's why our buffer areas show

390
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we know less than 25 feet in depth when the purpose.

391
00:34:01,820 --> 00:34:04,580
Again, I don't know that we need for a regular buffer

392
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if we're going to require it and our dimensional requirements.

393
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:12,140
Yeah, it's a disaster.

394
00:34:12,420 --> 00:34:14,980
This actually addresses the year completely

395
00:34:14,980 --> 00:34:21,060
This address is not a commercial for residential, but a multi-family to single residential,

396
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which is probably the most contentious things I've ever seen here so far, is those

397
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do things.

398
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Commercial next to residential and multi-family next to single family.

399
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I'd rather put this, if we're going to do that, I'd rather put that in the table of

400
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dimensional requirements itself.

401
00:34:38,700 --> 00:34:39,800
That's where it is already.

402
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:51,900
Yeah, but it's only for commercial and industrial that much right now for multi-family. Right. So if we wanted to add multi-family it should be at an error, but in the table I would put it as the conventional table.

403
00:34:52,140 --> 00:34:58,580
Yeah, it's near half. I would go to one spot to see what their dimension, the dimensional requirements are.

404
00:34:59,340 --> 00:35:05,940
So, let me make note of that, so it may just say the car cover area shall comply with

405
00:35:05,940 --> 00:35:07,500
and comply with the dimensional data.

406
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It

407
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will lessen the arid dimension with some people when we're saying that's already built

408
00:35:20,860 --> 00:35:22,060
in there when it comes to pitch.

409
00:35:24,210 --> 00:35:26,090
It's 13.7 signage.

410
00:35:26,430 --> 00:35:28,230
That's really not up to all the stairs.

411
00:35:28,490 --> 00:35:29,970
You know, it's signing a sign.

412
00:35:30,570 --> 00:35:31,130
Where's that?

413
00:35:31,930 --> 00:35:32,890
It's 13.7.

414
00:35:33,950 --> 00:35:34,510
You're in the car?

415
00:35:34,810 --> 00:35:35,670
Yeah, at the bottom.

416
00:35:35,670 --> 00:35:44,220
So, I'm ready to resign very much, you know, doesn't dress with a nation sign.

417
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,660
How do we control the elimination of it?

418
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,480
Why don't we actually look at this as part of the leading?

419
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,320
Because that was one of my questions.

420
00:35:54,520 --> 00:36:01,420
We already talked about having laid not intruded upon another's property, not, you know,

421
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,060
they have to be built in a certain way.

422
00:36:03,060 --> 00:36:14,060
And I'll be honest, that I see that on 24-7 the entire thing is a little bit of a grider than any sign I could like today's spotlight.

423
00:36:14,860 --> 00:36:20,120
So I can actually understand regulating some of them in some way shaped form on the site point.

424
00:36:21,540 --> 00:36:26,020
I mean, it should be designed by law, but I couldn't hear it because it's not in here

425
00:36:26,020 --> 00:36:28,100
so I'm putting it here.

426
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,400
I need it going to keep up.

427
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:35,520
The big issue in my songs is they tend to ruin it.

428
00:36:35,540 --> 00:36:38,760
Everything, and not just the love, they're not just the lettering.

429
00:36:39,140 --> 00:36:44,400
So you get this nice blue lettering with a big, bright white background.

430
00:36:44,860 --> 00:36:45,640
I'll set it up.

431
00:36:45,660 --> 00:36:47,360
My other question will be for that as I was.

432
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,420
But you're right, that's true to Z and zoning, but we don't have that.

433
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,520
So it actually makes sense to put it here.

434
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:55,260
We

435
00:36:57,310 --> 00:36:59,730
don't really have zoning by-law or is it protected by law?

436
00:37:00,650 --> 00:37:01,650
It's the same thing.

437
00:37:03,370 --> 00:37:06,310
And then mind it, let's try to keep it moving along.

438
00:37:06,490 --> 00:37:08,470
We're going to want to spare our hearing by seven.

439
00:37:09,310 --> 00:37:13,710
Like I said, the only question I had on this sub-seven is hours for illuminated signs.

440
00:37:14,870 --> 00:37:16,330
Because right now the 20th is over.

441
00:37:17,710 --> 00:37:25,190
And that's a whole nother issue for my experience because you need to specify a consistent

442
00:37:25,190 --> 00:37:31,210
standard or not regulated because satellite plan board does in case by case by case basis.

443
00:37:31,830 --> 00:37:34,470
And there are our regulations are all on the board.

444
00:37:35,450 --> 00:37:37,350
So we can regulate that.

445
00:37:37,570 --> 00:37:40,530
They have to identify that the using the moment it's directly working.

446
00:37:46,450 --> 00:37:51,250
So, so you're saying that everybody's okay with signage?

447
00:37:51,930 --> 00:37:52,630
I am.

448
00:37:53,210 --> 00:37:54,830
That's me, okay with signage?

449
00:37:55,170 --> 00:37:57,530
I am.

450
00:37:58,090 --> 00:37:58,610
I like that.

451
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What else do you have?

452
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Page 15.

453
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15C.

454
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Well, the town center district design guidelines can conflict with the provisions of Section 14D1

455
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14D, more space and shell apply, any project located with telecented district complied with

456
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pages 12 through 25, I don't think that now it's a district guidelines were ever adopted.

457
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,080
They were adopted but they're just like informational,

458
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they don't have any regulatory teeth to

459
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Yes.

460
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Yes.

461
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:46,260
We'll give it a round of 14.

462
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Missy.

463
00:38:49,700 --> 00:38:51,620
This then makes them part of the right.

464
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So we're referring to guidelines that are really on approved for everything really haven't

465
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been adopted by anybody.

466
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,620
They just out there to look at.

467
00:39:03,780 --> 00:39:04,980
They're just guidance materials.

468
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I don't know.

469
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I don't know that.

470
00:39:11,130 --> 00:39:12,810
We have the power to do that.

471
00:39:13,330 --> 00:39:13,450
Yeah.

472
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I

473
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mean, we're just saying that those are part of our guidelines.

474
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Yeah.

475
00:39:18,780 --> 00:39:20,660
but they can be thrown on the waste basket tomorrow.

476
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,700
How would those start to convince you of my knowledge?

477
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,040
How would they regionally adopt?

478
00:39:30,340 --> 00:39:31,240
Committee putting forward?

479
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,300
I don't believe they have an arm.

480
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I don't believe they were.

481
00:39:33,340 --> 00:39:35,260
I think it was just drawn up and put out there,

482
00:39:35,260 --> 00:39:36,640
but nobody ever acted on it.

483
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,400
So they're out there to look at and review.

484
00:39:38,620 --> 00:39:40,140
And they were adopted as guidelines.

485
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:43,260
Yet we're officially adopted, but have not been adopted.

486
00:39:43,300 --> 00:39:44,600
My thing is adopted by who,

487
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,380
because unless I went to either a town meeting

488
00:39:46,860 --> 00:39:49,520
or a process, I would be on the consent against it.

489
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,460
You're mean because I started to go on someone

490
00:39:51,460 --> 00:39:52,480
a year from now to go.

491
00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:58,720
And I know this says you have to have 20 feet which are not six and there's no process to changes

492
00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:03,880
And if it hasn't been adopted in a way that the town was aware of it, there was no vocation

493
00:40:04,700 --> 00:40:05,560
So should we

494
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:10,420
Have an appendix D. That's the town center guidelines

495
00:40:10,420 --> 00:40:16,200
I would take that out. I think that could get us in the

496
00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:31,440
We're trying to get this to a manageable read, I would take out 15, that's about

497
00:40:41,300 --> 00:40:42,740
as far as I've got.

498
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,420
A typo on page 21, the applicant.

499
00:40:49,380 --> 00:40:52,500
This isn't Shelby Meal, it's in the applicant file, it's his field.

500
00:41:13,630 --> 00:41:14,350
I just

501
00:41:17,900 --> 00:41:22,300
wanted to bring up a couple things that were in some of the other towns guidelines

502
00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:24,520
that we don't have, and I don't know where they are.

503
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,020
One was mentioning walkways that are adjacent to parking.

504
00:41:30,020 --> 00:41:32,820
They specify requiring something like wheel stops

505
00:41:32,820 --> 00:41:36,260
at a minimum to protect the pedestrians.

506
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:38,980
I don't know if we should have something like that

507
00:41:38,980 --> 00:41:40,540
or if we do in our zoning somewhere.

508
00:41:42,970 --> 00:41:44,510
We wouldn't need a speed bump at the entrance.

509
00:41:45,410 --> 00:41:46,770
So that basically ends up...

510
00:41:46,770 --> 00:41:48,830
No, if you have a pedestrian walkway

511
00:41:48,830 --> 00:41:50,590
that's next to where the car is parked,

512
00:41:50,930 --> 00:41:53,090
that at a minimum, you need wheel stops.

513
00:41:53,090 --> 00:41:57,630
Oh, okay, I get further. I thought you meant harder. Okay. No, the beer buddy.

514
00:41:59,470 --> 00:42:05,410
That's big, so we have less traffic. If they were designed out at the side of the block, you'd have to block it so it can roll into it.

515
00:42:05,430 --> 00:42:08,890
It's actually about like the curb or stuff kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

516
00:42:08,970 --> 00:42:18,330
Now, don't have them here. Why do you have some general prints? What is the design shelf, why do you have a safe and convenient drive reservation systems?

517
00:42:20,490 --> 00:42:26,870
You can achieve that through a bunch of different ways, yeah.

518
00:42:27,230 --> 00:42:29,270
That's top four separate stews.

519
00:42:29,350 --> 00:42:31,070
A landscape barrier.

520
00:42:31,410 --> 00:42:32,910
A barrier inside of all of that.

521
00:42:33,450 --> 00:42:34,970
There's a lot of different.

522
00:42:35,510 --> 00:42:42,450
So it's, I have 10 lanterns on the side that, on the side of it.

523
00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:49,810
Tell them the objective, and then in reviewing the application, did they meet the objective?

524
00:42:50,990 --> 00:42:52,510
And we can revise this data.

525
00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:59,050
If like 20 people come in and are not consistently meeting the objective, we can say here are ways you could meet the objective.

526
00:43:01,500 --> 00:43:06,060
So it references appendix A, B, and C. Are those documents that already exist?

527
00:43:06,060 --> 00:43:14,740
A and C, A is your application that's online. C is your V schedule, which is already adopted.

528
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:20,860
B will be the form for the bug and impact statement, which I've got several examples of.

529
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:28,800
C is one of the communities. We want to go through this. My intention is to find Isaac. I don't know what to put in there.

530
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:35,070
The other thing we mentioned previously is that Westminster had an entourage to discourage

531
00:43:35,070 --> 00:43:39,650
landscaping plantments as an appendix and want something like that or not.

532
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:43,520
Now pull on Westminster.

533
00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:47,660
It actually does make sense because the only thing it seems like people want to paint

534
00:43:47,660 --> 00:43:48,740
it is in China.

535
00:43:49,380 --> 00:43:51,800
So it does suggest that it's not or be quiet.

536
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:53,180
Just to suggest.

537
00:43:53,180 --> 00:44:01,700
So why don't I take my managers and just for that change stirring and for that as it's been

538
00:44:01,700 --> 00:44:02,140
to eat.

539
00:44:02,540 --> 00:44:02,720
We

540
00:44:09,700 --> 00:44:15,340
mentioned about sidewalks like we mandate sidewalks in certain regions but

541
00:44:18,090 --> 00:44:18,470
we've

542
00:44:18,470 --> 00:44:23,570
actually taken them out right sidewalks and that's the issues of who cleans and who doesn't

543
00:44:23,570 --> 00:44:28,590
clean them and who's responsible if somebody falls on the clean that's what follows in it.

544
00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:32,270
So what is there a lot of carbon vision on the sidewalks?

545
00:44:33,150 --> 00:44:36,550
into the right, they were removed from subdivision rights, I can tell you,

546
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:40,430
whether it's existing,

547
00:44:40,870 --> 00:44:46,130
or seem approved, but I hope to just throw it out there and say that we've made the move

548
00:44:46,130 --> 00:44:47,410
and I'm sure it was for a reason,

549
00:44:50,730 --> 00:44:51,530
and if it knows, Eric.

550
00:44:55,630 --> 00:44:59,490
But sometimes actually under certain, for certain development,

551
00:45:55,330 --> 00:46:00,430
I think that should be clarified then, because I read that to be like, if you have a bicycle

552
00:46:00,430 --> 00:46:06,310
The bicycle parking spaces and racks, the bicycle parking spaces and racks are to be provided.

553
00:46:07,450 --> 00:46:10,710
There's actually no off-the-foot would be a consideration of that.

554
00:46:10,770 --> 00:46:11,550
Yeah, because it's R.

555
00:46:12,290 --> 00:46:19,090
And then the intent is that you can ask a way, if the use is such that the bicycle parking doesn't make any sense.

556
00:46:19,350 --> 00:46:19,470
Right.

557
00:46:20,530 --> 00:46:29,750
My most business and then get an issue is the e-bike parking was where it was the last time I worked in some application.

558
00:46:40,550 --> 00:46:48,730
I am here so far into this, you've got an NGO 44, such a 54.

559
00:46:49,650 --> 00:46:52,230
and I would hope it's something to be called.

560
00:46:52,570 --> 00:46:57,510
I have an opportunity to be so easy for me to.

561
00:46:58,230 --> 00:46:59,690
I'm asking you and Carl,

562
00:46:59,690 --> 00:47:01,430
that if you've got any further comments

563
00:47:01,430 --> 00:47:02,930
on these regs for Richard,

564
00:47:03,130 --> 00:47:06,690
that you get them to me in my two weeks time.

565
00:47:07,130 --> 00:47:07,810
Yeah, it should be.

566
00:47:08,090 --> 00:47:09,850
Can we also do this again?

567
00:47:10,750 --> 00:47:11,190
I think it helps.

568
00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:14,030
I was thinking that it would make sense

569
00:47:14,030 --> 00:47:16,650
to have Richard come back from one last go-around.

570
00:47:16,650 --> 00:47:33,070
It was even very helpful to totally understand that part, because it's helping us when we're asking questions, but I'm talking about, like, if that brings up something, I would like to know ahead of time, so we're not sitting down and saying, hey, I don't understand this and wasting your time.

571
00:47:33,530 --> 00:47:35,550
At least I can kind of get about what I mean by that.

572
00:47:36,350 --> 00:47:36,870
Yeah.

573
00:47:36,870 --> 00:47:43,110
A lot of people report when I extend in, if I can, as soon as I get those, I like to

574
00:47:43,110 --> 00:47:51,090
do, is they're compositing the airbikes comments and all that's in the draft, absolutely.

575
00:47:51,510 --> 00:47:56,870
And so then, if we, everybody would have, not listen to a dozen, just everybody nods, topics,

576
00:47:57,290 --> 00:47:58,250
issues that are embraced.

577
00:47:58,590 --> 00:47:58,650
Right.

578
00:47:59,070 --> 00:48:02,290
It gives us an opportunity to, to a true, right.

579
00:48:02,730 --> 00:48:04,170
We don't want to over-regulate.

580
00:48:04,490 --> 00:48:04,550
Right.

581
00:48:04,550 --> 00:48:13,510
You know, that's the thing, you don't want to overrate it, because then you'd like to discourage anybody if you're doing it, if you've put too many things in front of them, turn them straight up and just kind of move on and go somewhere else.

582
00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:20,550
That's one reason for encouraging a free application conference.

583
00:48:21,950 --> 00:48:25,870
It doesn't make it, when there's a conference, I always want this a shout.

584
00:48:25,870 --> 00:48:28,050
And that's just when we have some of these things.

585
00:48:28,410 --> 00:48:31,070
He doesn't make it very apparent to what was coming forward

586
00:48:31,070 --> 00:48:34,830
that they don't have to go through this five or six-month process.

587
00:48:35,070 --> 00:48:36,210
Hey, I modified this.

588
00:48:36,710 --> 00:48:37,310
We forgot that.

589
00:48:37,710 --> 00:48:40,570
I modified this, like that Monix didn't want on for a year

590
00:48:40,570 --> 00:48:42,170
because of some of the design things.

591
00:48:42,310 --> 00:48:43,270
I think it's all front.

592
00:48:44,170 --> 00:48:45,530
Hopefully they'll have better planning.

593
00:48:46,910 --> 00:48:48,250
That's what's engineering.

594
00:48:48,670 --> 00:48:50,250
Wouldn't, yeah, question I had in place

595
00:48:50,250 --> 00:48:52,850
from the scene's conference area was on here.

596
00:48:53,690 --> 00:49:02,730
In the completeness review, I had worked, I took the position generally that staff should

597
00:49:02,730 --> 00:49:08,570
be the final side of the ink tank that's four, and as you know, I was making the field

598
00:49:08,570 --> 00:49:15,110
process for any time, but I was in a sensitive position that the field looks at it, and on

599
00:49:15,110 --> 00:49:18,550
a very basic level, it's not complete, they shouldn't go four.

600
00:49:18,550 --> 00:49:22,510
I've never had anyone fight me on that in my career as a player.

601
00:49:23,050 --> 00:49:27,110
Who really will fight, because usually if fight is losing battle,

602
00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:29,810
I'd always like to give you the option.

603
00:49:31,030 --> 00:49:33,570
So hold on, if we're talking about just the completeness of the atmosphere.

604
00:49:33,830 --> 00:49:34,510
Right, yeah.

605
00:49:34,730 --> 00:49:35,890
Yeah, to me, that's your game.

606
00:49:36,450 --> 00:49:36,530
Okay.

607
00:49:37,130 --> 00:49:44,170
So, we'll change that then, so if Steve finds it in complete, the clock stops.

608
00:49:45,870 --> 00:49:49,830
When you've got X, Y, and C, and then you're uptime?

609
00:49:50,970 --> 00:49:54,730
I've done that a number of times and I've never...

610
00:49:55,730 --> 00:50:00,950
I've always told people, worse than the mind that's gone on, tell them that's not complete.

611
00:50:03,790 --> 00:50:07,230
There was a 1% that was like, I'm going white.

612
00:50:09,170 --> 00:50:11,610
I don't see harm in leaving the appeal there though.

613
00:50:31,150 --> 00:50:32,550
Like I see what you're saying you don't want to leave it to a town employee

614
00:50:32,550 --> 00:50:33,350
Well

615
00:50:50,830 --> 00:51:02,450
I watched the guy in the clock and the town maintains the trees, they're a pain in the ass.

616
00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:11,930
I want to pour gas on it, like I'm on fire, I mean, hey, what's up, what's up, what's

617
00:51:11,930 --> 00:51:17,750
What I'm saying is, is she trees worth it?

618
00:51:19,170 --> 00:51:24,090
I look at, you know, the granite curbs that they plow,

619
00:51:24,570 --> 00:51:28,190
and it tears the hell out of her palm, tongue pop.

620
00:51:32,490 --> 00:51:34,390
That's just my own opinion.

621
00:51:34,670 --> 00:51:35,650
That's the only thing I think.

622
00:51:35,770 --> 00:51:39,270
Well, at a setback distance, acceptable to the knee he does.

623
00:51:39,610 --> 00:51:43,290
So he can suggest that they move them back

624
00:51:43,290 --> 00:51:46,390
to a length where it won't end up here in the first place.

625
00:51:47,030 --> 00:51:52,690
All right, the same thing exists in our subdivision breaks.

626
00:51:53,310 --> 00:51:54,110
It's a 44th tree.

627
00:51:54,790 --> 00:51:57,570
But the issue with that is it doesn't say whether you can play them there or not.

628
00:51:57,710 --> 00:52:00,110
It could be an electric line, a septic system, anything like that.

629
00:52:00,270 --> 00:52:01,810
But it's the same kind of thing.

630
00:52:02,330 --> 00:52:03,050
I know what you're saying.

631
00:52:03,250 --> 00:52:05,730
You don't get too many of them in some way.

632
00:52:05,730 --> 00:52:18,030
I'm watching the plot of the road, and I think the shade trees are pinned in the neck for the plot and the bit.

633
00:52:19,470 --> 00:52:23,290
The grand curbs, they hit them and they've shrank.

634
00:52:23,750 --> 00:52:25,390
Right, well I think we got rid of those.

635
00:52:25,690 --> 00:52:29,270
I think we got rid of the granite headstones on or catch bases and stuff.

636
00:52:29,570 --> 00:52:30,110
I think we got rid of them.

637
00:52:30,410 --> 00:52:33,770
To me, when we're talking about this, this is general landscaping.

638
00:52:33,770 --> 00:52:42,810
So if we take that out, you're talking about eliminating trees from like some of these when we're talking about this year, it has to be landscape.

639
00:52:43,370 --> 00:52:51,150
I understand that we don't want to stick them in the middle of a parking lot or some, you know, too close to the road that we end up chewing up our own equipment.

640
00:52:51,630 --> 00:53:02,550
But at the same time, like someone else said, I think the DPW superintendents say that but I'd also like to see that we don't end up with a bunch of properties that are clear factor and then nothing has to go back.

641
00:53:02,550 --> 00:53:07,530
Well, DPW is going to review every site plan along with all the other good departments.

642
00:53:07,810 --> 00:53:11,910
And you can say, hey, can you move your trees back a bit so that the cloud's no better.

643
00:53:12,270 --> 00:53:13,190
It gives it some options.

644
00:53:14,730 --> 00:53:19,610
And DPW, as I said, is not in a space to move them back.

645
00:53:20,110 --> 00:53:21,550
This space is for way before.

646
00:53:22,130 --> 00:53:22,230
Yeah.

647
00:53:23,230 --> 00:53:23,330
Yeah.

648
00:53:24,690 --> 00:53:32,210
There's some waivers that, by the nature, if the light farm says, yeah, we want to done it.

649
00:53:32,210 --> 00:53:32,930
That's all I want to say.

650
00:53:33,150 --> 00:53:41,710
If David W. says, we want to then, you simply do it because there are the ones that

651
00:53:41,710 --> 00:53:43,650
fill problems on a day-to-day basis.

652
00:53:44,370 --> 00:53:47,790
I suppose it does not practical the practical application and ask for a waiver.

653
00:53:49,390 --> 00:53:49,790
Sure.

654
00:53:49,970 --> 00:53:50,950
You get an issue out there?

655
00:53:52,190 --> 00:53:52,430
Okay.

656
00:53:52,430 --> 00:54:02,290
Okay, so if you have any further comments you want to share with Richard, get to me in two weeks' time.

657
00:54:04,050 --> 00:54:08,510
I will copy the board in whatever I send to Richard.

658
00:54:09,710 --> 00:54:14,150
We're going to want to bring him back for our October meeting.

659
00:54:15,930 --> 00:54:21,410
I can now make our view of age of October 24th.

660
00:54:22,050 --> 00:54:25,150
You want to do six o'clock, Richard.

661
00:54:29,460 --> 00:54:33,560
I can get how many night meetings are specified in our contract.

662
00:54:39,540 --> 00:54:45,680
You said two weeks sooner is better, the mind tends to take care of our stomachs and

663
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:47,640
give them positive what they are.

664
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:53,860
So we can bring you back here for six o'clock on the twenty-fourth of a walk over?

665
00:54:54,100 --> 00:54:54,360
Yes.

666
00:54:55,820 --> 00:54:56,660
Nobody anybody?

667
00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:57,640
Good.

668
00:54:57,900 --> 00:54:58,140
I'm good.

669
00:54:58,300 --> 00:54:58,520
That's good.

670
00:54:59,340 --> 00:54:59,620
Yep.

671
00:54:59,620 --> 00:55:02,020
It's just fucking fun for a third of the year.

672
00:55:03,460 --> 00:55:03,920
Okay.

673
00:55:07,350 --> 00:55:09,050
Richard, good job.

674
00:55:10,090 --> 00:55:13,110
You were very thorough. I know you did that intentionally,

675
00:55:13,490 --> 00:55:16,230
rather get it all out there, and have a stream of back

676
00:55:16,230 --> 00:55:17,750
rather than miss something.

677
00:55:19,030 --> 00:55:22,390
So I would just like that. All of them easier to take things out

678
00:55:22,390 --> 00:55:23,210
than mad things.

679
00:55:23,350 --> 00:55:24,930
I have a thing in me for the things.

680
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:38,700
Do you want to tell those guys that you could leave?

681
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:39,560
Yeah.

682
00:56:01,300 --> 00:56:02,180
Thank you.

683
00:56:02,340 --> 00:56:02,580
Thank you.

684
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:03,400
Thank you.

685
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:03,500
Thank you.

686
00:56:03,540 --> 00:56:04,540
Okay, but we're ready.

687
00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:09,680
The second one?

688
00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:10,320
Yeah.

689
00:56:10,900 --> 00:56:11,300
The process.

690
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:19,170
We want if we can see the sign in it.

691
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:06,880
We can see it.

692
00:57:16,050 --> 00:57:21,390
Next thing we got up is the continued public meeting for the site plan approval on 48

693
00:57:21,390 --> 00:57:28,490
was the road, the change of views, the change of the contract is the applicant, the

694
00:57:28,490 --> 00:57:40,010
Dragonfly design, and it's built. So we left off last time, was that we asked for some

695
00:57:40,010 --> 00:57:49,070
providing plantings on the north side rear and proposed a right vinyl stockade

696
00:57:49,070 --> 00:57:54,870
fancy to the left of the corrugated steel building that stops at that entrance

697
00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:57,950
and then picks back up on the other side of the entrance it goes to the

698
00:57:57,950 --> 00:58:05,570
property line. You get to ask if that be shown on the side plate. So it appears to

699
00:58:05,570 --> 00:58:11,490
leave it all those changes have been made they're on the site plan so I would say

700
00:58:11,490 --> 00:58:16,510
that the things that we wanted when we asked him to come back tonight and make

701
00:58:16,510 --> 00:58:24,010
those changes if I may yes also we want to make sure that is secured on

702
00:58:24,010 --> 00:58:29,850
boot health that entrance our exit whatever you want to call it okay is not

703
00:58:29,850 --> 00:58:33,330
going to be a condition you're looking as a condition to keep it secure we talked

704
00:58:33,330 --> 00:58:41,570
about the last leg. I don't care if it's a chain gait or a chain that's easy to take off.

705
00:58:41,870 --> 00:58:46,810
Just so it's not a cut through. That's all. Now you're going to continue to have that. We talked

706
00:58:46,810 --> 00:58:51,650
about that at length. You do not want traffic because they're obviously going to continue to chain.

707
00:58:52,010 --> 00:58:57,390
Correct. The only concern we had was not putting in any material that would block that for emergency.

708
00:59:01,430 --> 00:59:09,420
So are we adding a new condition to secure the access from which we're going to

709
00:59:09,420 --> 00:59:09,440
now?

710
00:59:09,500 --> 00:59:09,640
No.

711
00:59:10,620 --> 00:59:11,100
And

712
00:59:14,460 --> 00:59:16,880
to not block the access.

713
00:59:29,140 --> 00:59:29,540
Well, thanks.

714
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:31,900
There's part of the ZVA decision.

715
00:59:32,660 --> 00:59:35,040
There's a wooden buffer on the back that the board is going to tell the road.

716
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:42,860
Since our last meeting, when I actually specifically spoke about material being pushed into the

717
00:59:42,860 --> 00:59:44,520
going into this action out more material.

718
00:59:45,540 --> 00:59:47,200
Some of the smallest stuff has been knocked down

719
00:59:48,860 --> 00:59:52,160
a colored firm for a lack of better term.

720
00:59:52,700 --> 00:59:53,740
This cluster towards the billing

721
00:59:53,740 --> 00:59:55,040
is now that we built up again.

722
00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,300
When that area was supposed to remain undisturbed

723
00:59:58,300 --> 00:59:59,740
and now you can stress the material.

724
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:29,260
It's about 7 feet from roadway and probably on town property. It should be the 82-room room behind the fence. What happens between them and now? We actually did start moving out of the journal. There's probably like 40 yards there. The material that's there was not there. That last meeting in the same place. It was smaller pile, and it was more on the property. What it appears to be is that

725
01:00:30,180 --> 01:00:37,000
building to the corner that a bus this 46-wister road appears that will be

726
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:46,880
really straight this side over here that side you talked about so do you

727
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:51,920
are you talking about this side here hold on what I'm talking about is great okay

728
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:55,820
yeah so this entire area has been straight and a pile has been pushed now

729
01:00:58,420 --> 01:01:06,940
So this right here, the grade was kind of up and down, so we did take some of this material

730
01:01:06,940 --> 01:01:07,720
just to create.

731
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:08,760
We didn't scrape it.

732
01:01:08,900 --> 01:01:14,520
We just used material to create a clean, even braid so that when the fence goes in, it'll

733
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:15,620
be a...

734
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:20,500
I'm not talking about this over this hump that became large, but I'm talking about this

735
01:01:20,500 --> 01:01:22,740
large problem material that wasn't there before.

736
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:29,980
We didn't bring anything in, it was a big pile here and as they were clearing it, they were pushing it around.

737
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:35,240
So I agreed that they did get pushed and it's probably a bigger than it was.

738
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,620
But we could get that out of there in a day if we have to.

739
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,500
It's going after we can't prevent it.

740
01:01:41,500 --> 01:01:41,940
Oh yeah.

741
01:01:42,820 --> 01:01:45,480
It certainly can be left on the other side of the first part of the discussion.

742
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,940
Yeah, we were using a skid steer and pushing and going into the pile.

743
01:01:49,940 --> 01:01:55,020
and as he was doing it, it probably did get pushed closer to the street, but more material

744
01:01:55,020 --> 01:01:56,200
was not for that height.

745
01:01:57,500 --> 01:02:00,820
I had to be broadened to do it. I thought you were going to scrape this, I don't think

746
01:02:00,820 --> 01:02:01,160
you could do that.

747
01:02:01,780 --> 01:02:05,180
You also have a berm in this area that's been increased in height.

748
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,020
I don't think it's increased in height.

749
01:02:09,620 --> 01:02:11,540
Does a whole layer of fresh material burn down?

750
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:17,220
So yeah, well, this was all filled material in here. We carved it out, I would say about

751
01:02:17,220 --> 01:02:23,900
20 or 30 yards of it so far, and then we use some of it to create a more clean grade

752
01:02:24,420 --> 01:02:32,280
from the corner where we plan to start our fence here, to the tree, or to the fence

753
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:39,840
post right there. We use that material up back and forth over it. We didn't raise the

754
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:46,500
agreed in that area. I think just because it's like a fresh material it looks

755
01:02:46,500 --> 01:02:51,960
different but it's not, I mean, we just create the pavement, we just create the

756
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:59,960
ground. Well this is, this is kind of, you create a straight line. Yeah, as it was

757
01:02:59,960 --> 01:03:06,120
before, the bottom of the fence would have been out 18 inches in one spot at

758
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:08,340
great in the next spot, so we just try to create it quickly.

759
01:03:08,980 --> 01:03:15,180
Then just so we're strong clear, the material here is within the buffer, it needs to be

760
01:03:15,180 --> 01:03:15,400
normal.

761
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:19,840
I agree, everything that you're going to be working on will be behind the fence, correct?

762
01:03:20,100 --> 01:03:20,260
Correct.

763
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:23,000
I mean that material is going to be completely gone in there.

764
01:03:23,100 --> 01:03:27,320
The problem though is there was a bunch of small, very small trees that are all gone now because

765
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:27,680
it's all gone.

766
01:03:30,500 --> 01:03:33,520
I don't think we did any, but it's possible, yeah.

767
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,880
I can show you the picture if you want.

768
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:41,380
The picture is this afternoon, but a bunch of ones they're not large, but the problem here

769
01:03:41,380 --> 01:03:46,620
is there's some very large trees and some of the only visual block of mitigating the

770
01:03:46,620 --> 01:03:48,940
general defense is some of those small trees.

771
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:49,940
They will grow larger.

772
01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,200
I just want to see some care taken when it comes to removing that dirt.

773
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:58,240
Yeah, we'll pull it all back, I think that would take it up, yeah, it's very good.

774
01:04:00,020 --> 01:04:00,380
Well,

775
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:08,700
that being said, I think what we want to run the plan is on here.

776
01:04:08,900 --> 01:04:13,420
He's going to clean that stuff up before he puts the fence up, obviously, because it'll be on the other side of the fence.

777
01:04:14,120 --> 01:04:16,680
So I would welcome a motion that we might have.

778
01:04:17,920 --> 01:04:18,640
My apologies.

779
01:04:19,020 --> 01:04:19,520
Can I have one thing?

780
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,160
Don't you think you're currently using that going to be there?

781
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:24,580
Maybe.

782
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:28,840
You know, looking directly on the top, you're building the front building?

783
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:29,160
Yeah.

784
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:30,320
That's a document to the right.

785
01:04:30,660 --> 01:04:30,840
Yeah.

786
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,960
Okay, so that's going to be your dumpster, you're going to keep it.

787
01:04:37,560 --> 01:04:39,860
Then I believe what's required is fencing.

788
01:04:40,260 --> 01:04:44,520
We've done that for multiple dumpster acts.

789
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:47,740
It doesn't change the track below and around.

790
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,800
It's the dumpster shielded by this fence that's going into the vent.

791
01:04:50,900 --> 01:04:52,220
No, it speaks here.

792
01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:55,260
It's here.

793
01:04:55,260 --> 01:05:02,330
It's a little further towards the parking line, but it's back in that area where it's good.

794
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:09,720
If you're driving towards West Wales, it's hard to see because the way that the trees are going to be.

795
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,140
Like I said, it's probably going to be better.

796
01:05:16,420 --> 01:05:20,260
Because that's what was done in that company.

797
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:22,120
It was one other.

798
01:05:30,190 --> 01:05:33,750
I think it honestly looks like it would be easy on off there.

799
01:05:33,750 --> 01:05:39,130
The only concern is that the board has had prior to my understanding is that by putting

800
01:05:39,130 --> 01:05:43,730
a fence around it, not tight, is that if anything happens to beloved, it's kind of contained

801
01:05:43,730 --> 01:05:46,510
within that fence area, so it doesn't come on slightly.

802
01:05:47,030 --> 01:05:49,690
You have a beautiful piece of rock, and you really keep doing it a lot.

803
01:05:50,250 --> 01:05:54,150
I'm just thinking that we want to be consistent on this, and I need some guidance on the board

804
01:05:54,150 --> 01:05:59,170
which belongs along with an eye, whether it's something we would consistently do in there,

805
01:05:59,310 --> 01:06:01,130
only in a couple of different cases.

806
01:06:06,700 --> 01:06:17,180
And again, I don't think we need to have and come back with a modified plan for it, as long as it's in part provisions, that if the dumpster lands there, it needs to be surrounded by defense.

807
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:17,720
Okay.

808
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:21,760
Did me okay with that?

809
01:06:22,420 --> 01:06:32,260
I mean, no, wouldn't be ideal for us because for us, the dumpster, you know, we come back from job sites with things in the back of our dump trucks and we're throwing it.

810
01:06:32,260 --> 01:06:37,860
I'm not asking you to put it tight, if it was twice as wide as that dumpster and you could

811
01:06:37,860 --> 01:06:40,540
pull a dump truck next to it, it wouldn't bother me at all.

812
01:06:40,980 --> 01:06:47,080
My only concern is some way of mitigating winged ends, but your material goes into that stuff.

813
01:06:47,580 --> 01:06:50,400
It comes off, it's basically cut contained within that area.

814
01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:52,120
That's what we've used in the past.

815
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,880
I certainly wouldn't want to constrict it to say you only need to four feet on each side.

816
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,220
You just thought to put a truck in there.

817
01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:06,320
Go ahead and it also made many more sense if you're doing roll-off roll lines, he rolls off one, he picks up the other and one shot.

818
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:07,460
Yeah, that's what the other.

819
01:07:07,760 --> 01:07:12,240
I just wanted to just continue who did fence the dumpster at the fence company.

820
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:13,740
And also at Twins.

821
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:21,260
We also did board it before the medical building down the street.

822
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,640
It's assumed to be pretty consistent, it does help with that.

823
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:35,840
It's a dumpster. It's not a free studio. That's not going to concern us more about we get a good winged on one day on all of this in the material every time we talk at three size, not four.

824
01:07:36,180 --> 01:07:37,560
Yeah, it's just something to contain.

825
01:07:40,620 --> 01:07:43,480
Okay, I mean, you double the width of it, so a truck can fit in there?

826
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:53,640
Yeah, I think for us, for that particular spot, if you would mess up the whole flow of that area, I mean, I'd probably just move the dumpster somewhere else.

827
01:07:55,520 --> 01:08:07,140
Yeah, I mean, there was a provision in there that said the dumpster shall be wherever the dumpster's sighted shall be contained in the fence area of three sites.

828
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:08,160
Okay.

829
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:12,180
But I want to give you some flexibility. I also don't want you to have to come back again in 30 minutes.

830
01:08:12,180 --> 01:08:13,040
Yeah, I appreciate that.

831
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,740
I'm going to give you some advice on how to do it now.

832
01:08:15,740 --> 01:08:26,450
is that there's a shown proof that it's basically this isn't where I'm up here and

833
01:08:26,450 --> 01:08:34,250
this is a, it's like a parking lot spot. So I just painted it in a flat pavement area here.

834
01:08:35,030 --> 01:08:42,530
So this is loading back where I was going to get a wall, looking as extension wall right here.

835
01:08:42,530 --> 01:08:45,150
whatever that could possibly be.

836
01:08:46,170 --> 01:08:49,850
Consider no close and we have building built-in.

837
01:08:49,970 --> 01:08:52,250
I don't think 36-inch. I actually think it's right

838
01:08:52,250 --> 01:08:53,990
because it's all just even that way.

839
01:08:55,230 --> 01:08:58,490
They give it a three-foot wall on five to six-foot jumps

840
01:08:58,490 --> 01:09:00,690
to meet what we're doing.

841
01:09:01,110 --> 01:09:02,990
And again, trying to be consistent and that's

842
01:09:02,990 --> 01:09:05,350
why we've done this consistently.

843
01:09:06,070 --> 01:09:07,510
I just want to make sure we do the same thing,

844
01:09:07,710 --> 01:09:08,050
that might not work.

845
01:09:08,750 --> 01:09:11,090
That's really the sixth foot, that's the second.

846
01:09:11,090 --> 01:09:14,130
I mean, it would be the same white vial kind of thing, like we've done for the liner.

847
01:09:14,950 --> 01:09:16,230
I mean, does that make sense to put that?

848
01:09:16,950 --> 01:09:17,270
Yeah.

849
01:09:17,450 --> 01:09:20,250
Is there an air, you know, somewhere along here?

850
01:09:20,490 --> 01:09:22,130
How about if you put it, how about if you put it here?

851
01:09:22,390 --> 01:09:22,710
Uh-huh.

852
01:09:22,950 --> 01:09:25,090
Right, and then you just...

853
01:09:25,090 --> 01:09:25,430
Yeah.

854
01:09:25,570 --> 01:09:25,890
Like that.

855
01:09:26,590 --> 01:09:29,530
Yeah, and again, could we just do one side into the side of that?

856
01:09:30,350 --> 01:09:30,670
It's...

857
01:09:31,470 --> 01:09:31,870
That's it.

858
01:09:32,030 --> 01:09:32,850
Yeah, this is crazy.

859
01:09:33,390 --> 01:09:34,010
For the way...

860
01:09:34,010 --> 01:09:34,430
It's crazy.

861
01:09:34,810 --> 01:09:36,010
What you need to access it.

862
01:09:36,170 --> 01:09:36,390
Yeah.

863
01:09:37,550 --> 01:09:39,450
You need to get to the side of it, it's what you say.

864
01:09:39,590 --> 01:09:39,850
Yeah.

865
01:09:39,850 --> 01:09:44,210
I mean, at least you would have like a building on the one side.

866
01:09:44,810 --> 01:09:48,680
I mean, you have to access it.

867
01:09:49,220 --> 01:09:52,180
You know, I see what he's saying. He's going to get to it and dump it in it.

868
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,260
So it'd be a fence here. You'd have the building here.

869
01:09:57,420 --> 01:09:58,740
You have the fence.

870
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:03,640
I got

871
01:10:07,350 --> 01:10:08,390
next to it, so I can say that.

872
01:10:08,410 --> 01:10:11,190
Yeah, that's kind of hard, but...

873
01:10:11,190 --> 01:10:13,270
Well, that's why...

874
01:10:13,270 --> 01:10:15,210
To me, that's why I said...

875
01:10:15,210 --> 01:10:15,890
The dumpster was here.

876
01:10:16,270 --> 01:10:19,290
And the fence was here and here, so you can pull in.

877
01:10:20,270 --> 01:10:24,930
That's not my concern. My concern is not catching it. Whatever comes out of it once will be.

878
01:10:26,810 --> 01:10:28,050
So, that makes sense.

879
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:35,920
My students are like, what do you need another piece here to give them enough build up room to be able to back in there?

880
01:10:36,440 --> 01:10:36,840
Either way.

881
01:10:37,340 --> 01:10:37,960
Yeah, I'm saying what?

882
01:10:38,320 --> 01:10:41,800
You wouldn't even need, if there was one piece here, one piece here.

883
01:10:41,940 --> 01:10:46,680
And again, take the road so trucking pull it next to the dumpster in that same space.

884
01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,360
I don't see that as being concerned.

885
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:55,160
If anything, we've less any of the input on that, of

886
01:10:57,660 --> 01:11:00,240
course, you know, if he's agreeable,

887
01:11:00,440 --> 01:11:04,020
so it's at that site, hi?

888
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:12,520
Yeah, it's not ideal, but it wouldn't be much, you might be talking 10 and 10 maybe.

889
01:11:13,180 --> 01:11:17,520
It won't be as, as open as the other place would be, where he has it now.

890
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:21,580
Yeah, and this is where we come in and out every day, so it's a lot more.

891
01:11:21,580 --> 01:11:26,440
But I think the problem is if I try to put that thing over there, you know, it's all about that.

892
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:27,960
Yeah, but I understand that.

893
01:11:28,180 --> 01:11:28,260
Yeah.

894
01:11:28,620 --> 01:11:29,040
And again.

895
01:11:29,980 --> 01:11:33,080
It's like a consistency of all those circumstances and circumstances.

896
01:11:33,580 --> 01:11:40,080
Well, we're the fine line between campuses and dealing with the site as it exists.

897
01:11:40,500 --> 01:11:41,060
Right, the reality.

898
01:11:41,500 --> 01:11:41,760
Correct.

899
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:45,140
But I'm just saying, you know, one of the two site communities that's so bad.

900
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:50,980
I guess the other problem for me is, I mean, yeah.

901
01:11:56,740 --> 01:12:00,360
This is kind of what we're using as our area.

902
01:12:01,100 --> 01:12:05,740
I would keep everything that was dry and dry in this area.

903
01:12:06,340 --> 01:12:08,560
This building is basically vacant.

904
01:12:09,340 --> 01:12:13,160
Some day it would be nice if it was leasable.

905
01:12:14,100 --> 01:12:17,180
Putting my stuff over here is not ideal.

906
01:12:21,860 --> 01:12:27,020
Yeah, but I'm thinking of this, you know, as we mentioned, at least it's saving you that material on the back.

907
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:31,500
And again, if this doesn't work because of the flow pattern, I

908
01:12:33,540 --> 01:12:34,980
just do not want to meet you consistent.

909
01:12:35,020 --> 01:12:37,820
Will we say that when dumps are completely up in the open?

910
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:39,200
No, from the open.

911
01:12:39,780 --> 01:12:41,840
That's what we, that's not negation in itself.

912
01:12:42,240 --> 01:12:44,040
So basically, yeah, but...

913
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:45,380
So where we're going to test?

914
01:12:46,180 --> 01:12:46,740
We're going to test.

915
01:12:46,740 --> 01:12:48,180
It's hard to say right now.

916
01:12:48,660 --> 01:12:54,700
I have to think about it, but I guess it's the rules I just have to fence it in wherever it is,

917
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:56,680
except the basic idea.

918
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:04,120
You need to be fence it on three sides and again, we're not looking to tell you it needs to be three or four feet off of it.

919
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,840
You need to pull in a piece of equipment next to it to offload.

920
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:08,960
Yeah, that's it.

921
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:10,280
Do you want the accessibility?

922
01:13:11,060 --> 01:13:13,920
And realistically, if it's a roll off and it's a double-wide,

923
01:13:14,480 --> 01:13:20,500
He's going to drop one, pick up the envelope, it's easier for the guy, the hospital not effective operation.

924
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:31,720
Yeah, because it might be, it's hard for him to say right now, but it might be better for us over here.

925
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:32,500
It might be better for him.

926
01:13:33,620 --> 01:13:35,620
Yeah, it's not good for him.

927
01:13:35,620 --> 01:13:37,660
Okay, so what so we'll just say

928
01:13:37,660 --> 01:13:41,040
That's a lot of these ads of the ducts or wherever you choose is to put it

929
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:45,500
Okay,

930
01:13:48,440 --> 01:13:50,280
so with those conditions

931
01:13:53,420 --> 01:13:55,140
Welcome to most of that we

932
01:13:59,140 --> 01:14:00,900
The specific conditions

933
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:03,860
Per section

934
01:14:04,460 --> 01:14:07,000
We go one dash three point two point

935
01:14:07,000 --> 01:14:14,960
7.2 packet of by-law. There should be no backing of vehicles on to or from the public way.

936
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:23,100
Per section 301, dash 4.6.6 and table 4.6.

937
01:14:23,900 --> 01:14:30,580
Point 610 of the protected by-law. That's our ground water protection district.

938
01:14:31,340 --> 01:14:35,420
None of the outdoor bins can be used for the storage and the icing chemicals

939
01:14:35,420 --> 01:14:39,880
except where the bins are grinned and enclosed to prevent the generation and

940
01:14:39,880 --> 01:14:46,760
escape of runoff or leachate. Number eight new fencing and landscaping

941
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:50,440
depicted on the site plans shall be installed within three months of the

942
01:14:50,440 --> 01:14:56,720
filing of this decision with the town clerk's office. Number nine secure the

943
01:14:56,720 --> 01:14:59,860
access from Botel Road and...

944
01:15:00,180 --> 01:15:06,580
Access, free of materials, number 10, fetch, free size of dumpster. Okay.

945
01:15:13,610 --> 01:15:35,110
What had, what had you read? Okay. All right. I think we're good now. I'm also going to move cycling 48, this is road five life with the conditions. Just read by state. Have a second. Second. Any more discussion? Any more favor?

946
01:15:35,110 --> 01:15:42,150
I suppose. So, if you know the drill by now, I'm going to write up the decision tomorrow

947
01:15:42,150 --> 01:15:47,670
of morning. Send it to all of you, send it to applicant. What you tell me it's good to

948
01:15:47,670 --> 01:15:50,310
go. I'll have the chair come in and sign.

949
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:56,320
All right, thank you.

950
01:16:21,210 --> 01:16:23,990
State consistent with what we've been doing.

951
01:16:23,990 --> 01:16:25,970
I see if

952
01:16:27,980 --> 01:16:28,200
you see.

953
01:16:28,580 --> 01:16:28,680
Yeah.

954
01:16:29,740 --> 01:16:30,260
Okay.

955
01:16:30,380 --> 01:16:31,940
I'm going to have to conjunction with it if you want.

956
01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:33,060
Okay.

957
01:16:33,740 --> 01:16:34,080
All right, please.

958
01:16:34,540 --> 01:16:34,680
I

959
01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:50,820
mean, it's up to public.

960
01:16:56,060 --> 01:16:58,620
The next up is public hearing.

961
01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:00,740
Appreciate Brian White's special permit.

962
01:17:01,380 --> 01:17:03,560
I'm James Patton-Rolle, 192.

963
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:04,200
108.

964
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:05,600
James Simpson.

965
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:09,420
I have to get ready to meet the legalese on this.

966
01:17:10,340 --> 01:17:14,860
pursuant to section 301-3.4.2, access,

967
01:17:15,940 --> 01:17:18,180
a ton of spillage, technical buy-laws notices,

968
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,200
here by given that the plane board will hold

969
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:22,320
a public hearing on Thursday, September 12,

970
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:25,940
0.24 at 7pm in room 205,

971
01:17:26,780 --> 01:17:28,720
Frederick Municipal Building, one park street,

972
01:17:29,180 --> 01:17:30,780
to review a special permit application

973
01:17:30,780 --> 01:17:33,400
for shared driveway on James Pan drive.

974
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:37,480
Tax 9.2, block by 08, James Simpson,

975
01:17:37,480 --> 01:17:44,780
and the applicant copied the flank they reviewed with the play in the cockpit office during regular town hall hours.

976
01:17:49,140 --> 01:17:57,860
So, this was a handful before, and the applicant is back again tonight at the Duke Mall,

977
01:17:58,020 --> 01:18:02,240
because before the station was playing in the hall, I'm going to incorporate both.

978
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:15,720
So, we see it tonight to have us revoke, to make it official, to special permit, it will require supermajority, which will be 4 out of 5.

979
01:18:16,940 --> 01:18:23,240
So, just a couple quick things I want to say on a shared driveway.

980
01:18:23,240 --> 01:18:30,700
That's, last of me, it seemed to be some confusion on a shared driveway in a private way.

981
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:34,900
A shared driveway is not a private way, it's a driveway.

982
01:18:35,340 --> 01:18:38,620
A shared, a private way is like Millie's way.

983
01:18:39,200 --> 01:18:41,240
Millie's way is that nature.

984
01:18:42,660 --> 01:18:44,660
Correct, walked away, things like that.

985
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:52,400
This is a driveway, so I don't want anybody confusing it with what would be done on a private way.

986
01:18:54,160 --> 01:19:00,400
We've actually, it was probably five years ago, we got rid of the requirement to name

987
01:19:01,620 --> 01:19:05,860
to be my name, which is probably what started some of the confusion because they were

988
01:19:05,860 --> 01:19:06,180
ways.

989
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:12,700
If you had a car on a driveway, something went, so I think that's where the confusion came.

990
01:19:12,860 --> 01:19:19,640
We got rid of that about four or five years ago and then, however, we didn't modify the application

991
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:20,400
that's been modified.

992
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:27,260
So now there won't be any meaning of this common driveway when we have come again in a couple of weeks

993
01:19:27,260 --> 01:19:29,040
or maybe moving on.

994
01:19:29,900 --> 01:19:33,060
So it's a driveway, it's not a driveway.

995
01:19:35,140 --> 01:19:36,520
That's what it's like for that.

996
01:19:37,180 --> 01:19:39,080
Mr. Chairman, I understand your question.

997
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:41,320
And it's going to be...

998
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:42,660
You came right here.

999
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:44,960
Yes.

1000
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:48,460
Jim, you'll have an agreement on that chain driveway for the maintenance?

1001
01:19:48,460 --> 01:19:56,220
I have not drawn up the agreement yet, but there will be a agreement between the law of sleep regarding sleep.

1002
01:19:57,020 --> 01:20:02,560
Does it have a condition that will take close to the condition of the region of the world?

1003
01:20:03,180 --> 01:20:03,780
Is it heated?

1004
01:20:04,900 --> 01:20:05,440
Yes.

1005
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:09,620
So

1006
01:20:12,790 --> 01:20:16,150
needing to be 4 out of 5, what's the sentiment?

1007
01:20:19,230 --> 01:20:27,930
question in regards to being sure to drive, it is often a private road, it's not a

1008
01:20:27,930 --> 01:20:31,290
kind of road, a change of the private road.

1009
01:20:32,610 --> 01:20:38,690
So James Patton Way would be a kind of an example of what I'm waiting for, I just heard

1010
01:20:38,690 --> 01:20:39,770
a kind of action.

1011
01:20:40,750 --> 01:20:46,710
It's not going forward, it's a kind of road or anything like that, the one I'm behind

1012
01:21:00,410 --> 01:21:06,490
So I'm just looking for a statement to make sure we have 4 out of 5 that we have that we have before the call.

1013
01:21:07,530 --> 01:21:08,390
So I don't think so.

1014
01:21:12,410 --> 01:21:15,390
Okay, so it looks like we would have 4 out of 5.

1015
01:21:16,410 --> 01:21:23,290
So that being said, welcome emotion that we approve the farm and driveway, the

1016
01:21:25,790 --> 01:21:26,050
James

1017
01:21:26,050 --> 01:21:28,150
Patton Road, not 92, but away.

1018
01:21:29,110 --> 01:21:30,570
Don't forget to have a second.

1019
01:21:30,850 --> 01:21:31,230
Don't forget.

1020
01:21:32,370 --> 01:21:33,610
Shall I read the conditions?

1021
01:21:34,870 --> 01:21:40,870
It's the applicant shall contact the fire department for the assignment of the stream

1022
01:21:40,870 --> 01:21:46,470
We need addresses, applicants shall obtain an order of conditions from Conservation Commission

1023
01:21:47,190 --> 01:21:49,290
prior to applying for a building permit.

1024
01:21:49,770 --> 01:21:51,750
If you don't have that yet, that's still an order.

1025
01:21:52,650 --> 01:21:59,890
I hope that in next week's table or the conversation voted in favor of it initially.

1026
01:22:01,030 --> 01:22:01,230
Okay.

1027
01:22:02,010 --> 01:22:07,790
And lastly, the applicant shall prepare and execute a legal document entitled Declaration

1028
01:22:07,790 --> 01:22:13,290
of easements and common rights and obligations for the James Pathway lot's one and two.

1029
01:22:13,930 --> 01:22:20,250
Set declaration shall outline the driveway making its responsibilities for the owners of lots one and two.

1030
01:22:21,110 --> 01:22:29,530
Set declaration shall be recorded at the Worcester County Registry of Deeds and be referenced in the Deeds of the respective lots.

1031
01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:35,880
So I can't know what we've all done, but I'm going to watch them be close to the problem here.

1032
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:37,140
Some more?

1033
01:22:37,480 --> 01:22:38,020
Some more?

1034
01:22:38,220 --> 01:22:38,840
On paper.

1035
01:22:40,120 --> 01:22:40,600
I've

1036
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:54,640
moved the special permit for the shape right away, James Panbroke for James Simpson.

1037
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:55,460
Some more?

1038
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:57,980
Like a more discussion?

1039
01:22:59,120 --> 01:22:59,960
On paper?

1040
01:23:01,280 --> 01:23:02,240
I'm also...

1041
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:05,090
What's your carries?

1042
01:23:11,170 --> 01:23:11,850
Five, two, one.

1043
01:23:12,790 --> 01:23:21,510
I'm sorry, Carl, I'll write up the decision tomorrow having the board look at it, have applicant look at it, you can come in and sign.

1044
01:23:22,730 --> 01:23:24,850
Thank you very much.

1045
01:23:24,850 --> 01:23:25,530
On

1046
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:50,640
this 20s, we're going to do a chapter where it's up here, but they're not here now, does that?

1047
01:23:51,620 --> 01:23:52,500
What do we do with that?

1048
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:54,100
We don't need to be here.

1049
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:02,640
That's awesome.

1050
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:05,080
A couple of acting associates stay here.

1051
01:24:06,020 --> 01:24:06,300
Yep.

1052
01:24:07,380 --> 01:24:08,260
You're not at all.

1053
01:24:10,330 --> 01:24:11,310
You're not going to be in here.

1054
01:24:34,150 --> 01:24:35,150
It's like...

1055
01:24:35,150 --> 01:24:38,510
with Rome, the quest for 45 Johnson Road, Cal2M18,

1056
01:24:39,050 --> 01:24:41,170
and so my job on this would be to

1057
01:24:41,170 --> 01:24:42,170
recommend, do not recommend,

1058
01:24:43,770 --> 01:24:45,370
or bend the town or pursue

1059
01:24:45,370 --> 01:24:45,970
or

1060
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:51,560
bend the town, but it's not.

1061
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:53,460
I just asked a question.

1062
01:24:53,860 --> 01:24:55,720
I wondered what conditions would we recommend

1063
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:56,440
that we exercise?

1064
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:58,700
I really think if the town was looking for

1065
01:24:58,700 --> 01:25:01,440
a piece of land, a lot of the piece of land,

1066
01:25:01,660 --> 01:25:04,020
or something like that in all fields,

1067
01:25:04,300 --> 01:25:06,520
or a critical abuse, it's nice to say the school

1068
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:09,500
or there was something that's down there that interested in expanding.

1069
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:14,280
Because that is a great corridor up a clean on the land through the air with trails.

1070
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:22,160
I forward this request to both the open space committee and the sterling land trust

1071
01:25:22,950 --> 01:25:26,930
so that they can make their recommendation to the summit board as well.

1072
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:31,620
That's one of their roles.

1073
01:25:31,620 --> 01:25:36,620
is looking at chapter lands that come off, that are proposed to come off the books,

1074
01:25:37,590 --> 01:25:47,340
and recommend that the town by any cost is part of a blind late word or less of other protected lands.

1075
01:25:49,660 --> 01:25:55,320
Their issue is that should they recommend it, let's the town have the money.

1076
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:58,680
In the seventh year, it was going to be in the real estate.

1077
01:25:58,940 --> 01:26:05,060
So I've talked to them about how other towns knew this and other towns go to town reading

1078
01:26:05,060 --> 01:26:13,040
every year and they ask for $5,000 to put it to conservation funding.

1079
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:19,220
And that builds up, let's say, it goes five years without being run by, and you've got $25,000.

1080
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:22,360
That's about to say to a land trust.

1081
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:28,560
Hey, look, we need your help in applying for a grant that will help us buy this piece of land.

1082
01:26:29,100 --> 01:26:36,120
We've got $20,000, $25,000 of our own that we can use to take for the appraisal.

1083
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:46,040
And that's usually enough to address a reachable or a local land trust to step up and help with a grant.

1084
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:51,060
Seems like something that wouldn't be on the timeline of doing this right-of-first refusal thing.

1085
01:26:51,060 --> 01:26:57,420
Right. This is like a very last minute. They have a purchase and sale. We have a very limited amount of time. Well,

1086
01:26:57,720 --> 01:27:08,380
then exercise. If the open space committee has that money, talk to side, and then account, and they can say to the

1087
01:27:08,380 --> 01:27:15,120
select board, can we have the time out here and give us the opportunity to work with a

1088
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:19,500
land trusts and see if it's something that might be a wonderful grant box.

1089
01:27:21,820 --> 01:27:22,300
So that

1090
01:27:22,300 --> 01:27:26,480
had seen happen elsewhere. Let me ask, I think we're not in a position to do our

1091
01:27:26,480 --> 01:27:32,580
year for. Well, I'll be in the position to do it. I'll want to get number two. Who sets the price?

1092
01:27:34,180 --> 01:27:38,760
The greater the importance it's going to get at the premium one. No, I think because the

1093
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:43,980
property in the store room is going on. Unless we have some other voucher, who wouldn't

1094
01:27:43,980 --> 01:27:48,660
by anything. And I think part of your address was last meeting that mentioned this is six million

1095
01:27:48,660 --> 01:27:55,660
square feet behind it. It's still staying preserved. It's not landlocked. There's no access to it.

1096
01:27:55,660 --> 01:27:59,760
It's a cliff. Right. It's a cliff. Which realistically, that wouldn't mean forever. I'm expecting

1097
01:28:00,420 --> 01:28:08,220
our police clubs to. It's not as though we were talking about that entirely properly. No, for one piece

1098
01:28:08,220 --> 01:28:13,720
that is blocking the rail trail from continuing through. I feel like these, there are always

1099
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:16,260
so they're doing an ANR, carving off a small lot,

1100
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:17,920
then withdrawing that from chapter land,

1101
01:28:18,020 --> 01:28:19,400
and we're like, we don't want the small lot of them,

1102
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:21,220
but those do that to the whole thing over time,

1103
01:28:21,220 --> 01:28:23,060
and then it seems like we need to

1104
01:28:23,060 --> 01:28:26,020
strategically, actually, to invest again.

1105
01:28:27,060 --> 01:28:29,160
Well, so that's why I got in the round

1106
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:33,440
for the Open Space Committee to prepare a map

1107
01:28:33,940 --> 01:28:35,540
of all the chapter lands,

1108
01:28:36,620 --> 01:28:38,340
and all of our protected lands,

1109
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:39,780
and all of our Trinils,

1110
01:28:40,240 --> 01:28:42,280
so that they can see what connects the land,

1111
01:28:42,820 --> 01:29:01,660
So that when chapter A comes up, this should be a prior test now so that we come in here and we already know that this is a piece, this is on red priority, high priority, this is a piece we want to wrap up the matter but this is my realest place.

1112
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:06,900
Yes, it's what we're talking about on the experience that we're talking about.

1113
01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:07,760
Yeah.

1114
01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:09,980
All right, thanks.

1115
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:16,840
So, did we get a second on the motion?

1116
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:17,200
Correct.

1117
01:29:17,440 --> 01:29:18,100
Then, I've got it.

1118
01:29:18,180 --> 01:29:19,140
Did we get a second on the left?

1119
01:29:19,780 --> 01:29:20,100
Okay.

1120
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:22,960
I have a post.

1121
01:29:28,820 --> 01:29:29,340
Yes.

1122
01:29:30,540 --> 01:29:31,440
From July.

1123
01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:32,760
August.

1124
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:34,340
What did this do?

1125
01:29:34,340 --> 01:29:35,640
I have to drive.

1126
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:41,700
I have to drive on lanes.

1127
01:29:41,700 --> 01:29:42,660
I have to drive on lanes.

1128
01:29:43,060 --> 01:29:44,120
I have to drive on lanes.

1129
01:29:44,260 --> 01:29:46,880
I have to drive on lanes so I

1130
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:56,820
can use my money and I can work, I am sharia, I have to have the good advice and that is great.

1131
01:29:56,820 --> 01:29:57,180
I'm sorry, I can't do this.

1132
01:29:57,460 --> 01:29:58,380
I'm sorry, I can't do this.

1133
01:30:22,580 --> 01:30:26,620
Let's change at the DIL-I-A-T.

1134
01:30:26,620 --> 01:30:29,640
And for our office meeting, this could be just me

1135
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:33,360
blowing it on today.

1136
01:30:34,180 --> 01:30:35,760
Did you come here last month?

1137
01:30:36,500 --> 01:30:36,880
Yeah, I did.

1138
01:30:39,200 --> 01:30:41,080
But maybe it's from me.

1139
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:41,940
Maybe it's from me.

1140
01:30:41,940 --> 01:30:42,300
Actually, who?

1141
01:30:44,620 --> 01:30:46,220
Yeah, he was here since the morning.

1142
01:30:46,660 --> 01:30:49,240
He was here since December 12th.

1143
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:50,620
He was here since December 12th.

1144
01:30:50,660 --> 01:30:51,260
That's today.

1145
01:30:51,540 --> 01:30:52,600
And he wasn't here last month.

1146
01:30:53,580 --> 01:30:56,100
Did you figure out who was here last month?

1147
01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:57,280
Yeah.

1148
01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:57,380
Yep.

1149
01:30:58,280 --> 01:30:58,720
Is

1150
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:06,400
they seem to awful far back?

1151
01:31:09,290 --> 01:31:15,100
I think this sucks about the crash junction road, which I thought that was in July.

1152
01:31:15,340 --> 01:31:22,460
And it's also talking about big channel ahead, so the area where it is is far above.

1153
01:31:24,160 --> 01:31:25,780
No, this is board grid debt.

1154
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:27,100
It's next meeting on Thursday.

1155
01:31:27,100 --> 01:31:28,540
I just wanted to check these out.

1156
01:31:28,540 --> 01:31:29,340
These out of the dilemma.

1157
01:31:29,860 --> 01:31:29,960
Yep.

1158
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:32,440
The beans are already done.

1159
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:34,260
Which we already threw out.

1160
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:35,040
Yep.

1161
01:31:35,620 --> 01:31:35,860
Open.

1162
01:31:36,180 --> 01:31:36,800
Just like that.

1163
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:38,120
These out there.

1164
01:31:41,480 --> 01:31:51,080
So we need the audience, wait, and at the bottom of my college, my work, I defend you the meeting minutes for July 18th and not August 22nd.

1165
01:31:51,100 --> 01:31:53,400
So let's block that eye and put the heads here.

1166
01:31:53,660 --> 01:31:55,060
And we'll trigger the schedule.

1167
01:31:55,540 --> 01:31:57,920
Make sure you're on the scroll and remember it the last time.

1168
01:32:07,950 --> 01:32:17,170
So here's what happened, so here's what happened, you also have the August 22nd meeting identified

1169
01:32:17,170 --> 01:32:23,250
as the light 18 meeting up in the head, so in other words, if you looked at the upper right

1170
01:32:23,250 --> 01:32:29,590
end corner of the crack one, it says August 22nd, but here it says July 22nd, so when you

1171
01:32:29,590 --> 01:32:32,810
We do look at the new set these minutes for August.

1172
01:32:33,170 --> 01:32:33,250
Yeah.

1173
01:32:33,490 --> 01:32:35,210
We're going to say July here.

1174
01:32:35,390 --> 01:32:36,130
Something like that.

1175
01:32:36,370 --> 01:32:37,590
It's been now.

1176
01:32:37,970 --> 01:32:38,730
We'll have a plan extra.

1177
01:32:39,290 --> 01:32:40,530
Except for a tight war today.

1178
01:32:40,750 --> 01:32:41,450
Yeah, pretty tight.

1179
01:32:42,170 --> 01:32:44,510
And so I looked it over and I'll look for it this.

1180
01:32:45,090 --> 01:32:45,790
It's coming.

1181
01:32:47,290 --> 01:32:47,970
Here's the Latin.

1182
01:32:48,910 --> 01:32:49,310
What?

1183
01:32:49,410 --> 01:32:49,870
I'm Latin?

1184
01:32:50,910 --> 01:32:51,570
There's Latin.

1185
01:32:54,530 --> 01:32:55,070
All right.

1186
01:32:55,210 --> 01:32:56,970
We got a ton like that for it.

1187
01:32:56,970 --> 01:33:00,770
I'm just kind of on shift backwards.

1188
01:33:01,510 --> 01:33:03,410
I know it's some of the objections to this.

1189
01:33:03,950 --> 01:33:08,130
You know, it was mainly due to the fact that I think

1190
01:33:08,130 --> 01:33:09,250
there's a place to shift backwards.

1191
01:33:09,530 --> 01:33:13,870
I think when it's not feasible or extremely difficult

1192
01:33:13,870 --> 01:33:15,290
to win some of the driveways,

1193
01:33:15,530 --> 01:33:17,850
that that's when you've got to be able to do that.

1194
01:33:18,230 --> 01:33:20,050
Rather than it's the first year of course.

1195
01:33:20,670 --> 01:33:23,350
My concern with this one was multiple.

1196
01:33:23,350 --> 01:33:27,170
or maybe you're on the right way, the location

1197
01:33:27,170 --> 01:33:28,890
to share drive is completely in the middle

1198
01:33:28,890 --> 01:33:30,550
of another public or regional problem,

1199
01:33:30,770 --> 01:33:32,350
and so on, and this means I lay out.

1200
01:33:32,850 --> 01:33:34,710
I'm not saying I'm clinically opposed

1201
01:33:34,710 --> 01:33:36,070
to all share drive ways,

1202
01:33:36,330 --> 01:33:37,870
but I just wanted to make clear,

1203
01:33:38,010 --> 01:33:40,470
based on to be able to go in this way,

1204
01:33:40,730 --> 01:33:42,110
is in this case, I know.

1205
01:33:43,030 --> 01:33:45,350
But in this case, the share drive way

1206
01:33:45,350 --> 01:33:47,730
minimizes the impact on the left hand.

1207
01:33:47,950 --> 01:33:48,070
That.

1208
01:33:48,990 --> 01:33:50,250
I think I should run into this way,

1209
01:33:50,310 --> 01:33:52,690
but look at that as an excuse because that is not

1210
01:33:52,690 --> 01:33:53,730
I don't want any specific letter.

1211
01:33:54,110 --> 01:33:56,370
It's not a pawn. It's piece of damper.

1212
01:33:56,750 --> 01:33:58,850
I don't want folks who would disagree with you.

1213
01:33:58,990 --> 01:34:02,430
I didn't find you to see that, but that's why I mentioned it for the last one.

1214
01:34:03,010 --> 01:34:07,230
The concomitiveness is that we do not want to drive this.

1215
01:34:07,410 --> 01:34:09,830
I'd be inclined because that is different than the recourse.

1216
01:34:10,410 --> 01:34:12,870
I don't like to find someone saying, well,

1217
01:34:14,770 --> 01:34:16,710
I know what the sport would do therefore.

1218
01:34:16,830 --> 01:34:17,990
You need to do this for me.

1219
01:34:18,430 --> 01:34:21,090
I would rather actually have that definitively saying that.

1220
01:34:21,650 --> 01:34:25,030
because, again, I drove for five years, three months ago,

1221
01:34:25,150 --> 01:34:27,390
where my service ended is sweet.

1222
01:34:27,770 --> 01:34:29,090
So some water goes through it,

1223
01:34:29,390 --> 01:34:31,990
but it certainly isn't, can you have a tap?

1224
01:34:32,490 --> 01:34:33,850
There's no less, you've heard it's down there,

1225
01:34:34,110 --> 01:34:35,610
there's really nothing in the service,

1226
01:34:36,550 --> 01:34:38,170
there's been picked some other areas.

1227
01:34:39,150 --> 01:34:40,430
But when we got to the question,

1228
01:34:41,290 --> 01:34:43,350
and this is where I had a problem with it,

1229
01:34:43,930 --> 01:34:45,530
come on, I've heard this,

1230
01:34:46,450 --> 01:34:49,410
and I was used to ask you to solve it,

1231
01:34:54,830 --> 01:34:58,550
They approved it because they believe that the time we had approved that drop.

1232
01:34:59,750 --> 01:35:03,710
So because of the way we were in error and how we voted, we did not have a single measure

1233
01:35:03,710 --> 01:35:08,530
but we realized that so he proceeded on thinking we had approved a driver.

1234
01:35:09,170 --> 01:35:12,410
This next step was gone but they knew at the time that there was a mistake on the driver

1235
01:35:12,410 --> 01:35:17,730
it was going to be a redo because they tried timing, they tried timing, they tried timing

1236
01:35:17,730 --> 01:35:27,310
I just find that the access of information is black for us.

1237
01:35:28,110 --> 01:35:29,230
How do I ever say?

1238
01:35:29,390 --> 01:35:31,650
Well, for us don't really communicate as much as they do.

1239
01:35:31,670 --> 01:35:32,430
Wow, they do.

1240
01:35:32,950 --> 01:35:33,570
They do.

1241
01:35:33,750 --> 01:35:36,210
Well, you don't have an issue with conservation

1242
01:35:36,490 --> 01:35:40,010
because we don't have an agent that can run out of steam.

1243
01:35:40,130 --> 01:35:42,670
We have that.

1244
01:35:43,150 --> 01:35:43,430
We have that.

1245
01:35:44,230 --> 01:35:45,990
We're not letting the clock in the engines.

1246
01:35:48,250 --> 01:35:48,890
I

1247
01:35:52,220 --> 01:35:58,300
know weeks upon weeks without seeing that, so it's not like he's giving us hours.

1248
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:04,320
He's helping with the administration, the setting of agendas, the meds and all that.

1249
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:09,240
But in terms of inspections, they found that working so.

1250
01:36:10,400 --> 01:36:20,700
So, let me ask you this, if we can't speak for the concompetent, if we try to get another person in here?

1251
01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:34,700
Yes, we have. We have a shared conservation agent agreement with either Robin or West Wilson, and that felt true for some reason.

1252
01:36:34,700 --> 01:36:35,780
I don't know.

1253
01:36:36,140 --> 01:36:36,480
Okay.

1254
01:36:36,820 --> 01:36:37,000
All right.

1255
01:36:37,540 --> 01:36:38,640
But we have been trying.

1256
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:47,540
I think we should try a little harder because I think having a conservation agent in the

1257
01:36:47,540 --> 01:36:52,400
building at least for a few hours every day is extremely important.

1258
01:36:52,820 --> 01:36:54,240
It's the way that would try harder.

1259
01:36:56,380 --> 01:36:57,080
What's that?

1260
01:36:57,240 --> 01:36:58,860
Who is the we that would try harder?

1261
01:36:59,220 --> 01:37:00,980
That would be the management team.

1262
01:37:00,980 --> 01:37:03,460
to select or to hand the talent of industry.

1263
01:37:07,430 --> 01:37:07,890
Good.

1264
01:37:08,430 --> 01:37:09,290
I understand.

1265
01:37:11,500 --> 01:37:12,520
It's all I have to do.

1266
01:37:13,520 --> 01:37:14,640
Motion roll adjourned.

1267
01:37:15,380 --> 01:37:15,780
Move.

1268
01:37:16,520 --> 01:37:16,900
All right.

1269
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:18,000
All right.