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For your safety and your well-being, we reaffirm our commitment to listening to children,

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standing with our brave survivors and reaching out across our communities to support families

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and to help others in need, whereas all community members have a role in ensuring children have

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positive experiences with families and have the resources they need when they need them.

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Well before they are in a crisis, everyone in the community should become more aware

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of child abuse prevention is considered helping parents raise their children in a safe,

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nurturing environment. Our community should work together in the resounding this year

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in building together prevention and partnerships. For our children, child abuse and neglect

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are preventable, and all communities benefit when children and families are well supported.

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Effective Child Abuse Prevention programs are seeded because of strong partnerships

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among the parent leaders, agencies, schools, religious organizations, law enforcement

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and businesses in the community.

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Now, therefore, I, Anthony S. Ford,

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by virtue of the authority vested in me

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as the Mayor of the City of Starbridge, Georgia,

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and on behalf of the City Council member,

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Zeldin Alexander, and London Barbara,

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John Blunt, and Keisha Gantt,

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and a fond of Thomas do hereby for Plain March,

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excuse me, April, 2023,

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as National Child and Youth Prevention Awareness Month.

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We call upon our community agencies,

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faith groups, elected leaders, medical groups,

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businesses, and individuals to increase

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to participate in efforts to support all families and strengthen the communities in which we live,

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thereby assuring safety and preventing child abuse. The witness thereof I have hereunto set my hand

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in the great city of Starbridge, Georgia, on the 10th day of April, here above the floor in 2023.

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I signed the proclamation loan that I put in this hall. And

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now I don't think we have anybody

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who's simply here to put me in the institute, but I'll tell you what I'd like to do. I want

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come join anybody come join footage all right come on don't be shy I'm all right come on join come on

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anybody come on okay where would you where we need to be we need to be more centered

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this is

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Let's start retiring, you might as well stay right here.

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And anybody else, proclamation I'm going to read now, sub-aggressive veterans services

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in corporate.

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So, anybody that wants to come on up for this and come on up, I'm going to read this

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and then we'll take a photo, have a photo of it, all right?

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And it's good to see Chair Hurrell in the house here.

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Appreciate that.

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Mr. Lewis, I don't know if this is the first time you've been here in business.

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No, it is.

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Okay.

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I'm going to call the dollar.

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We can just...

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I'm going to get to my workload.

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Me too.

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It's all good.

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It's all good.

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It's all good.

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It's all good.

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All right.

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Here we go.

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It's the Proclamation City of Starbridge, Georgia, in recognition of Southern Crescent

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Veterans Services Incorporated, where a Southern Crescent Veterans Services Incorporated

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is a volunteer group of retired veterans

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from various war areas dedicated to assisting

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fellow veterans and employment, education, transition,

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training programs, and networking opportunities.

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Where the Southern Crescent of Veterans Services

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incorporate partners with various local nonprofit service

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organizations to meet the immediate needs of our veterans

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in financial crisis, shelter for homeless veterans,

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employment of job leads, assistant with resume,

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filling out filing for increase of VA compensation

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or pension as well as assisting them

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with filing their initial VA claims.

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Where Southern Crescent Veteran Services

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and corporate team of volunteers strive to serve

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our war heroes through a network of resources,

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contacts, and referrals,

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where the goal is to connect veterans and their families

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with services and to be a conduit

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for many of the nonprofit organizations

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in our community who are serving our heroes.

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And whereas the veteran conditions in the United States

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need more attention and care.

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Unfortunately, veterans are highly vulnerable

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to social issues such as huge education on depth,

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defts, homelessness, and lack of medical care.

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Our community is fortunate to have

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Southern Crescent Veteran Services step in

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and uplift our war heroes,

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providing free assistance to all veterans.

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They're surviving spouses and dependent children

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from all branches of the service.

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Now, therefore, I, Anthony,

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and Spore by virtue of the authority vested in me

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as the Mayor of City of Starbrings, Georgia,

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and on behalf of City Council member

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Delton Alexander, Lana Barber, John Bluth,

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the case again upon the time to hereby recognize Southern Crescent Veteran Services Incorporated

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for all that you do for our United States veterans and we thank you for volunteering

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your time and services that we ask the community to continue to support your efforts. The winners

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thereof I have here on to set my hand the great CLC Starbridge Georgia on the 10th day of April

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year by law in 2023 and I signed the proclamation law when I closed the missile holiday.

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Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. I would just like to say thank you for coming out to support us.

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Without you, it would not be us.

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We do the things that we do on behalf of our hearts and make sure that our veterans and

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our youth that here in the Henry County and Clayton County area are taken care of.

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Majority of the time you'll see me on Facebook begging a lot for volunteers in kind donations

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or monetary items to assist those who are in need.

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This is a truly appreciated award so I thank you Mayor Ford for bringing it to us at this

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time.

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If you know any business in the neighborhood that need our services everything that we do and provide is free

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Just let them know that we're here to serve and thank you

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You want to get you the picture sir, I'm just part of the group

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It's all about you all

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Thank you.

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Thank you, sir.

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Good.

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How you doing?

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Mrs. Carter,

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Mrs. Carter,

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Mrs. Carter.

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Ladies and gentlemen, council, let's get started with the meeting, please.

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that an air cord?

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Well, I surely hope so. I have not looked at my e-mail.

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I'm looking at Facebook live now, and I don't see that we're streaming live in.

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Yes, we are streaming live. They can hear us now.

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My mic is on. I told them exactly what you were concerned with.

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Make sure that the video is positioned so that they can fold.

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I mentioned that to them.

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I don't see it on Facebook.

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Well, I'm sorry about that. I told them. I read it to people.

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Gentlemen, let's go.

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We're live folks on Facebook as we're recording at this time I now have 6.05 so I'd like

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to call our April 10th council meeting to order and on that note please stand for invocation

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That's our retired basin, please, due to orders.

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Everyone,

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if you please, close your eyes and bow your head as I give a brief application.

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I'd like to thank you for this opportunity to come before you,

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to acknowledge that you are the one that's in charge of each and every one of us.

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We thank you for making the ultimate sacrifice in regards to giving your one and only sign,

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as today is that day that he had rose from the dead.

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We would like to thank the community for coming together to put forth the efforts

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to make sure that all citizens are loved, shown in this kindness, and to help them in

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their time of need. Please be with Mayor Ford and the elected council members to share good

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news and good deeds to the people who are seeking their advice and leadership. We love

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you so very much for everything that you continue to do and we pray this and accept

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this in the whole oppression name of your son Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen.

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President of the United States

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of America, the United States of

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the Republic, and the state, one

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nation, one country, the

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individual, the liberty and

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justice for all.

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Madam clerk roll call please.

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Mayor Ford.

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Present.

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Mayor Pro Tem Barber.

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Present.

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Councilman Alexander.

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Present.

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Councilman Blunt.

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Present.

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Councilwoman Gantt.

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Present.

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Councilman Thomas.

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Thank you Madam clerk counsel. I'm I'd like to do this. I have them I want to make a life for you to make a motion to amend the agenda to remove item number six, which is an amphitheater rental policy.

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May I forward?

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Yes, sir.

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So moved.

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Is there a second?

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I second.

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Ms. Gantz, second.

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All in favor, please indicate.

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Discussion?

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Discussion.

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No, sir.

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We're going to, no need to discuss this.

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Either you're in it, up or down.

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No need to discuss.

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All in favor, please indicate.

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Okay.

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All opposed.

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Okay.

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Four is one.

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Okay.

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Also, council, you don't mind like a motion to amend the agenda to add number 18,

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which would be an ordinance for consumption of alcohol at the amphitheater.

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So moved.

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I second.

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No, there's got to be a so moved.

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Yep, Ms. Barber.

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Ms. Barber, so moved.

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May I report?

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Okay, Ms. Gantz seconded.

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Okay, all in favor, please indicate.

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Call opposed.

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Okay, unanimous decision.

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All right, fantastic.

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Screaming?

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Number 18, we'll add an ordinance for consumption of alcohol at the amphitheater for discussion at number 18.

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Okay?

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And also, Calcineda, motion to amend the agenda for discussion, which will be item number 19

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for the Southern Crescent Technical College for Amphitheater rental agreement.

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But I'd like to have that right after our first presentation, so we don't keep them waiting all evening.

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Yes, ma'am.

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This will be for a discussion item?

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It's actually for, it was going to be for approval, approval actually.

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But none of us have approved it.

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We would discuss it, but eventually it'd be for approval and disapproval.

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But none of us have read the contract.

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It was just.

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OK, I'll tell you what, you want it for discussion, we'll have discussion.

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And then if we decide, if we decide, OK, if we decide to do something different,

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the council will decide to do something different for discussion.

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Are you, are you so moved?

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I'll make a motion for discussion.

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OK, is there, is there a second?

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Is there a second?

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We, we're doing a rental policy, but we'd not, we took the rental policy off.

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That's, that is correct, sir.

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That is correct.

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I'm certainly support them moving ahead with this, but I want how we're going to do that without the policy, but there's there's there's a sign of policy in front of you sign agreement in front of you at this time.

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Yes, ma'am. I understand what Councilman Alexander is saying now.

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Have we approved the we've already approved a rental policy agreement. Correct.

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We did approve it. There were some potential some adjustments that we wanted to make but this this the particular policy with the southern Crescent College

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Have been worked through for the last several months or so. Okay, and attorneys have been actively involved in this as well

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All right, so I will move to has anyone made a movement. Well, she wants to remember what I want to discuss versus versus having a

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Presentation to a for approval or disapproval

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Okay

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Well, anyway, I mean, you can always vote.

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Exactly, exactly right.

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So it could be for discussions.

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You made a motion for discussions.

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Is there a second demo?

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I second.

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And I want it.

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It's going to be right after the presentation.

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Right after the presentation.

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It'll be up early.

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All right, thank you.

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Okay, so seconded by Ms. Gantt.

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All in favor, please indicate.

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All right, unanimously.

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Fantastic.

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Okay.

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On that note, council, we have before you the adoption of minutes for the council meeting on February 13.

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And also the council work session on February 28.

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If there are no particular changes for the clerk for these particular minutes, I need a motion to approve them.

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Ms. Barber, is there a second?

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That's second.

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Mr. Blunt, second. Our favor, please indicate.

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You can ask the decision. Thank you very much.

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Okay.

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Madam Clerk, are there any public comments at all?

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Report, we do have...

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Okay, come on forward, please.

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Name an address as you come forward.

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Hi, good evening. My name is Fran Morgan.

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I live at 316 Spring Creek Drive.

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I am a homeowner and I've lived in Will Spring subdivision

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for the past 11 years.

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The reason I'm here today is because we have

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quite a few residents that are parking their vehicles,

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trailers, recreational vehicles on the grass

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in the front, sides, and rear yard.

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The grass is no longer there

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where these vehicles are being parked.

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This is not only an eyesore but an embarrassment when our friends and family come to visit

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and it has to see all this.

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It's also important we protect our property values and this could deter potential buyers.

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I am aware that the city does have a code that does not allow vehicles to park in the

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street but I have been told that there is no city code preventing vehicles from parking

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on the grass which is an unimproved surface.

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I am asking if you could please review this and consider adding a city code that would not allow any vehicle trailer or recreational vehicle to be parked in the front yard side or rear of a residential zone property.

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I don't believe this should apply to the entire city of Stockbridge, but it should apply to single family residential homes that are in a subdivision.

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And I have pictures that I can leave you all if you want to review them later on to just

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see what's going on.

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I'll tell you what, the city manager is over here.

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He would take those pictures from you, he'll review this in this aspect.

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I thought for sure we have this covered in the ordinance and of course our police chief

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is in the audience here tonight as well.

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But the police officers do, we do have the ordinance and they follow the ordinance.

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So we'll double check with your thoughts here and make sure it's accurate and we

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make sure we're just in support.

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But to Mr. Garner's right there, ma'am, if this is something else that you will meet

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you and you can handle those pictures. Okay?

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Okay. Thank you very much.

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Thank you. Appreciate it.

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All right. Next on item of ceremonial. Earlier today, we actually had two proclamations

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that I read. And the first one dealt with Child Abuse Prevention Awareness Month,

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which is April. And in about the city, you will see blue and silver pinwheels

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indicating our support for child abuse, excuse me, a support against child abuse, excuse me,

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and this aspect and prevention. And you have some signs there as well. So I want you to know that

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we're very supportive of the aspect that we need to take care of our children. Okay. And also,

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the other proclamation dealt with the Southern Crescent Veterans Incorporated,

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And that's our basin who gave the invocation today, received that, and she has an outstanding

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organization that works with veterans across the board to assist with them with anything

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that they need in reference to health issues, job issues, and anything else, anything that

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deals with a veteran's period.

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So it's very, very worthwhile and quite a bit of support that we have given here

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in the local community in reference to that.

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But on that note, we'll move on to our presentation, Annual CVB Convention Visitors Bureau 2022 Report

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presented by Laura Luker, the Executive Director.

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Please, Laura, come forward.

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Okay.

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There we go.

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Thank you all.

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I am Laura Luker.

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I'm the Director of Tourism for Visit Henry, and I have spoken with all of you previously,

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so I won't go into the specifics just quickly to say that we are, excuse me,

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okay we are the destination marketing organization for the city of Stockbridge

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as well as for Stockbridge, for Hampton and Locust Grove and then for

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unincorporated Henry County and that means that we are charged with the

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promotion of all the things that there are to do in order to make Henry

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County and all of its cities, a desirable destination for visitors.

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And our mission is to inspire tourism by engaging the partners, that's you and all

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of our hotels, restaurants and attractions in the community in order to build a sense

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Thank you.

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A lot of hospitality for Henry County's visitors to stimulate economic development, because economic

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development is what it is all about. So, in 2020, I know that there were several, excuse

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me, 2022. Nobody wants to go back to 2020. 2022, there were several changes that is our

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first full year that we collected hotel motels access from short-term rentals, but it also

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So I know that you've had several new hotels come into the city of Stockbridge with your

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annexation.

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So the numbers next year and the percentages will look a little bit different.

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But as I said, we do represent four different entities and you'll see those percentages

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of budget makeup represented here.

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The orange is Henry County, the yellow is, excuse me, orange is Locust Grove, yellow

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is Henry County Unincorporated.

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The grayest stock bridge at about 20% with Hampton making up the little blue

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strip at the top and that's representing about 30 hotels and a bed and

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breakfast across all of the community.

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So in 2022 we had a variety of things

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that we were working on specifically one of which was a visitor services. We

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have our 2022 visitors guide that was our second installation of our magazine

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quality visitors guide and it continued the work that the previous issue had

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started where we had pioneered having four custom brochure racks from Barn

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Beautiful in four of the welcome centers and it was so successful we

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expanded that to eight. There are nine centers only eight will allow any

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type of promotion from outside of their region. And so we did it in all eight, and we went

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through a little over 50,000 guides. We're actually still waiting to see from our distributor

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if we went through more than that. We ordered 65,000, and we had to order 15 additional

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thousand in June because we were already running out. So that was incredibly successful,

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and we do have our 2023s that just came in. So if you haven't had a chance to

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see those, I encourage you to request one. We'll leave some for everybody at the

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city as well. And then some new things that we really put into practice and

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we're excited about this year was our photo kiosk. This is a freestanding

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independent touchscreen kiosk. It allows visitors to interact with it and

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select from 12 different branded city backgrounds. You can see some examples

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of some of those photos that people have taken. They can email it to

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themselves or text it to themselves, but on the back end it lets us know what they're

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interested in, where they're from, how many people they shared it with, that kind of information.

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And so we have one at the center now and we have asked if we could expand that program

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as well.

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Then in 2023, excuse me, we launched our new mobile visitor center, but we started

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that process mid-year in 2022 and we hired our part-time expert explorer.

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In September, she started a began working event such as at your local theater,

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not the theater, the amphitheater at hotels, restaurants, events around the community.

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And she is supported by more than 30 trained what we call local explorers, which is our volunteer force.

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And they were incredibly successful at engaging volunteer visitors at those events.

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The goal with this program is to meet visitors where they are.

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They're coming into the destination maybe with little to no knowledge of what else they

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could do maybe other than what they're there to do.

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And so our goal is to be there in their moment of decision and to say, here's what else

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you could do.

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Here's where else you could eat and encourage them to stay longer and spend more money.

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And so this will be our first full year with our actual van that is built out on

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the inside as well.

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If you haven't had a chance to look at the inside,

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I would love to bring it and let you see it here at City Hall.

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So we also have several different types of advertising

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that we do.

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We have seven different billboard locations.

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They are digital billboards.

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We have one that's the lowest one we have

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is in just north of Mount Carmel Road.

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And the one furthest north is on Interstate 24

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in Chattanooga.

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So they're all facing southbound traffic.

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that's what we found from research was where our highest number of visitors are coming from.

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And so we have four different designs that rotate through when we don't have either event

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or partner promotions. You can see here as an example of the one for the city of Stockbridge.

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We also do print and digital ads. We did ads in a variety of different types of publications

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like I said, both print and digital including the Georgia State Parks Guide,

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Southdown Magazine, Better Homes and Gardens, and then here's some additional

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examples of some of these ads that we ran as well.

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We did a lot of video

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advertising. We have 15 second and two minute videos, the 15 second video for

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each of our cities, and we did about 1 million stock bridge specific videos.

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These were served via YouTube connected TVs over-the-top TVs. So these are

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to things like YouTube ads or in-stream content

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if you're reading an article or things

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like Hulu that have streaming content that has video ads.

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More than 800,000 of them were completed.

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So people chose to watch all 15 seconds of it.

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They didn't skip it.

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And then that created about 1,700 clicks

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through from those ads directly

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to stock bridge specific itinerary on our site.

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We also have some very stock bridge specific display ads. These are called digital display.

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You see copies of photos along with some text that tells visitors what they can expect. These

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had over 2 million impressions and 17,000 clicks to our site, which was all linking directly

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through to stock bridge specific content. And I do want to make sure that it's specific,

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that these 2 million impressions are just stock bridge specific impressions. Every city has

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different set of ads there's about 25 ads for each city and they run and rotate

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through depending on what people are looking for based on what's in that city

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so that's what you're seeing is stock bridge specific numbers and that is also

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including paid and paid search and paid social so here's an example of some

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paid search ads and those had about 50,000 impressions as well and so they

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cover a variety of different toppings, shopping, history, et cetera.

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We had a very successful year with PR and media.

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We had about 172 published results, including that equaled about $168 million in earned

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media value.

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That means that if we'd gone out and bought these ads in these publications, the column

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length or the number of pages would have cost us about $168 million, but instead

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it was free because it was editorial content and that did include an ad or

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a full several page article in Southern Living Magazine.

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Social media, Leo

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continues to knock it out of the park with social media. You can see here's

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examples of some Instagram as well as Facebook post and he generated about

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three million total impressions on our social content last year, 100 and about

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150,000 total engagements and grew our following by about 2,000.

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We also invested in a new research, it's a new research called Arrivalist, it's a company

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that does location-based data.

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For those of you who had the opportunity to come to our annual meeting, you got to

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see some of this presented by John Packer, who works for Arrivalist, and I just wanted

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to run through a couple of quick overview slides.

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This data is so deep, so broad, there's so many applications for it, but what it

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does is it actually tracks visitors that come into the destination via cell

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pho data. So you can see here that in 2020, so this the data you're looking at

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is 2022 data, we had about 1.9 million visitors and this

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This data is taken based off of AT data, but it is taken along with the census data, and

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they level it accordingly so that you're not getting really skewed data.

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What you'll also notice is that while we had almost 2 million visitors, only about

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32% were spending at least a night.

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That gives us a lot of opportunity to capture those visitors and turn them into overnight

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stays and then to make them stay longer as well. And with this we have an idea

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of where they're coming from, who's staying, and how long they're staying. So

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you with this you can also see, I know it's probably small for those in the

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audience, but what you can see is that some of the states that are our

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highest traffic states or points of origin make a lot of sense. Obviously

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Georgia, we're in Georgia, but Florida, Alabama, we touch all of those states,

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But what might be a surprising is that 1.2 percent of our visitors in 2022 actually came

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from New York and from Illinois and Texas.

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So you see all of those states that don't have any, they don't touch us at all, but

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they're generating high traffic to our county.

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And then when you look at the orange and data more specifically when you kind of dig

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begin to it, what you'll notice is that while Georgia provides the highest number of our

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visitors, it doesn't provide our highest overnight stays. While New York is what, almost six-sevenths

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in terms of the number or the places that people are coming from, it has the highest

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number of overnight, 2.44, average of 2.44 overnight. So it's really good to know

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that, OK, if they're coming from New York,

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they're tending to stay longer.

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And then you think that makes logical sense,

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but you also see that Florida tends to stay longer

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than Alabama, even though Alabama and Florida are

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both touching.

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So those are just good data points

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to know when we're trying to advertise

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and where we're trying to advertise.

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And then when you drill down from the state

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to the city level, you can see that only the top five

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cities are Georgia cities.

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You get New York right back there in the mix,

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noting that Georgia is our sixth, excuse me, New York is our sixth most popular

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point of origin for our visitors, which actually really surprised me. And then

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when you look at our share of overnight again, I talked about only 3.2%, but then

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you see how that breaks down by the number of nights. Most of our visitors

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are day trippers with about 4.3% being four nights or more. And then

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when you look at where people are coming from, where they're going, and

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And when they're going there, you'll see that hotels, that captures the highest number

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of our visitors, which makes complete sense.

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Again, people need a place to stay.

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We do see a lot of pass-through traffic because we are on I-75.

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But then you look at when they're visiting, March, July, August, again, the race happening

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in March and July, that makes, you can see those trends, you can see tournament season,

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in. You can see concerts all coming in as they impact that travel. Also, when you look

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at a year over year report, you can see how they change based on the month. Okay, well,

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we lost a little over 8% in January this year over last year, but in September we

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gained it. So you can see and you can also look and say, what happened in September?

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Why did we get more people in September than we did the previous year? What happened

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in January, and why did we not get as many people this year? Was it weather? Was it an

479
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:21,900
event that did or didn't happen? Those are some kinds of things you can look at when

480
00:57:21,900 --> 00:57:27,780
you're making better decisions. And so we're not making any decisions in a vacuum. And

481
00:57:27,780 --> 00:57:32,600
this is a screen capture from the presentation that John Packard gave at that annual meeting,

482
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:37,440
taking the Stockbridge amphitheaters points of interest specifically. We were

483
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:45,460
able to identify 29 points of interest and draw basically a grid right around

484
00:57:45,460 --> 00:57:50,420
their footprint and so only people who enter that footprint get counted as a

485
00:57:50,420 --> 00:57:56,700
visitor and so while Stockbridge had 4,300 visitors that were from out of

486
00:57:56,700 --> 00:57:59,580
state they were spending an average of three and a half hours in the

487
00:57:59,580 --> 00:58:04,280
destination and you can see you know maybe what your most most impactful

488
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:08,900
concerts where what looks like whatever was in August was your highest you know

489
00:58:08,900 --> 00:58:13,140
you had several concerts in August so maybe that's you can see how that how

490
00:58:13,140 --> 00:58:19,620
that shifted the the travel trends you can also see where they're coming from

491
00:58:19,620 --> 00:58:24,220
most people are coming from Georgia and so it's an opportunity again for us to

492
00:58:24,220 --> 00:58:31,540
look at our partners our cities our points of interest and attractions and

493
00:58:31,540 --> 00:58:36,280
figure out how we can best work with each of those to better leverage what it is

494
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:43,020
that's making people come and visit and then how we can create additional

495
00:58:43,020 --> 00:58:46,940
experiences. One thing that John said during that presentation that I think

496
00:58:46,940 --> 00:58:50,620
it's important to emphasize is that for every hour someone travels to get you

497
00:58:50,620 --> 00:58:54,460
get to you, you have to have four hours of things for them to do once they

498
00:58:54,460 --> 00:58:59,120
get here. So if people are coming from Savannah say and they've traveled three

499
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:03,780
to four hours, then we need about 12 hours or things for them to do.

500
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:09,500
And so putting together itineraries, opportunities, packages so that they know what else they

501
00:59:09,500 --> 00:59:15,260
can do when they're in destination, it provides a huge opportunity for us to leverage the

502
00:59:15,260 --> 00:59:18,780
people that are already interested in what you're offering, but maybe just don't know

503
00:59:18,780 --> 00:59:20,860
what else they could do with an easy proximity.

504
00:59:21,460 --> 00:59:27,660
So I'd be happy to go through this data in more detail or dive in anything specific

505
00:59:27,660 --> 00:59:33,200
If you have any questions at a later point, but at this point, do y'all have any questions?

506
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:34,860
That's just a real quick run-through.

507
00:59:34,980 --> 00:59:35,180
Yes.

508
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:35,540
Well, I've got it.

509
00:59:35,620 --> 00:59:37,380
Thank you for it, Laura, for that presentation.

510
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,740
It's progress, American progress, that's for sure, in this aspect.

511
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,500
And I know we're helping along that process and for that progress.

512
00:59:46,820 --> 00:59:50,140
DeVan, I don't know if you've already done this along with our event staff or

513
00:59:50,140 --> 00:59:55,480
even with our amphitheater, our consultant is in here as well, and our representative

514
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,860
from our Vestatis here to work out something for the CVB band.

515
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,640
And to be at those particular city activities or even at the concerts, okay? So I don't know

516
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,120
if you've already started a dialogue you have, okay?

517
01:00:07,220 --> 01:00:08,900
It will be, they'll be there on Friday.

518
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:10,260
Oh, fantastic, fantastic.

519
01:00:10,580 --> 01:00:14,580
So we've got volunteers and the van and Rachelle all scheduled and all very excited.

520
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:19,360
Good deal. And then New York, I have to admit I'm not totally surprised personally because

521
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:22,900
every time I turn around and I meet new people, they're coming from New York, a new journey,

522
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:27,780
somewhere up north like this. So it's fantastic, okay? It's good brief, I appreciate that.

523
01:00:28,100 --> 01:00:29,000
Mr. Blunk, go ahead please.

524
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:36,040
Thank you for the presentation. I want to start specifically with the amphitheater piece.

525
01:00:37,060 --> 01:00:43,140
How do you calculate the points of interest? Once again, how do you calculate points of interest?

526
01:00:43,620 --> 01:00:45,940
Because you've got a number of 4,323.

527
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:52,600
So what they do is they draw a geofence around the property.

528
01:00:52,600 --> 01:01:01,760
and so when a phone enters that fence it's registered as a visitor if it

529
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:09,280
returns to a location outside of Henry County and if it is a I should have said

530
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:17,220
this at the front end it rules out anybody who is a commuter so if you

531
01:01:17,220 --> 01:01:23,260
If you go, if you live outside of Henry and you come and you go back, then it rules you out.

532
01:01:23,300 --> 01:01:30,920
It doesn't count you as a visitor. It only counts people who are in the destination for at least two hours.

533
01:01:31,820 --> 01:01:40,400
And then if you're stopping and getting gas and then going down the road, it doesn't count you.

534
01:01:40,820 --> 01:01:44,840
And so it is all about cellphone data for app usage.

535
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:50,300
And that's why it's normalized for the Census Bureau because you might have different populations

536
01:01:50,300 --> 01:01:54,420
that are heavier app users than others or heavier apps of certain apps.

537
01:01:54,600 --> 01:01:59,880
So what it is for the amphitheater specifically is that there's an invisible line basically

538
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:07,380
drawn around the amphitheater and when a cell phone enters that zone or somebody opens

539
01:02:07,380 --> 01:02:11,940
an app that is one of the apps that is tracked, it gets registered as a hit.

540
01:02:12,540 --> 01:02:19,060
And the reason I ask that because it's when you look at this is for the year, is that correct?

541
01:02:19,140 --> 01:02:19,440
Correct.

542
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:24,040
But when you look at this for the year, let's just say for instance, 12 concerts on a 34

543
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:27,080
seat amputated, that's over 40,000 seats.

544
01:02:27,700 --> 01:02:31,780
And so for the year, you're telling me that in the parameters of the amputated, only

545
01:02:31,780 --> 01:02:36,940
10% or a little less than 10% of the people got on their cell phones or they did whatever.

546
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:38,340
Is that what you're saying?

547
01:02:38,340 --> 01:02:42,800
No, what I'm saying is that only that that percentage are from outside of Henry County

548
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:50,400
Outside of Henry County correct if they are residents then they will not be counted

549
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:56,220
It only counts people who whose home base is outside of Henry County and that they're not commuters

550
01:02:56,220 --> 01:03:02,040
So less than 10% of the people that got on their phones was outside of Henry County. It's it's

551
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:02,860
not about

552
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:08,400
It is about who gets on their phone, but that's why they normalize it.

553
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,740
So that it's not about, there's two sets of numbers.

554
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,600
There's real numbers, and then there's the normalized data.

555
01:03:14,900 --> 01:03:21,720
So you have your real numbers that might say that there's only a hundred or a thousand

556
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:30,260
visits logged, and then you look at the normalization of it, and I'm not explaining

557
01:03:30,260 --> 01:03:30,720
this well.

558
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:37,420
John would have done a better job, but you look at the census data and you say that in

559
01:03:37,420 --> 01:03:44,140
that age group or in that demographic or in that area, this is the percentage of the population

560
01:03:44,140 --> 01:03:50,080
and they adjust it and they've found that it's within, I think, 90-something percent

561
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,800
accurate in terms of when they normalize it. Again, I'm not doing a fantastic job

562
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,320
of describing that, but...

563
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:59,480
And that's fine, and I will have to say you're 100% sure because I have no idea

564
01:03:59,480 --> 01:04:05,880
what you just said. But my concern has been, how connected are you all? So you're an entity

565
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:09,480
of the Chamber or you're connected with the Chamber or you're a separate entity of the

566
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:09,620
Chamber?

567
01:04:09,700 --> 01:04:12,620
We're an entity of the Chamber. We're underneath their umbrella.

568
01:04:13,760 --> 01:04:20,600
So the thing that has concerned me even since I've been on this Council is with the Chamber

569
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:24,900
because you know the City of Stockbridge is the heaviest provider of funds to the

570
01:04:24,900 --> 01:04:25,160
Chamber.

571
01:04:27,510 --> 01:04:30,470
Are you talking about Hudson Middle Taxes?

572
01:04:31,250 --> 01:04:33,410
I'm talking about local option sale tax.

573
01:04:34,670 --> 01:04:35,870
So it's a loss tax?

574
01:04:36,230 --> 01:04:36,390
Yeah.

575
01:04:37,510 --> 01:04:39,770
And the Chamber is not funded through loss tax?

576
01:04:40,070 --> 01:04:42,530
Well, the funding, well, I'll be putting it this way.

577
01:04:42,650 --> 01:04:45,050
The funding that we give to the Chamber,

578
01:04:45,410 --> 01:04:47,350
the funding that comes from the stock bearer's portion

579
01:04:48,130 --> 01:04:49,010
for advertising.

580
01:04:49,270 --> 01:04:50,190
Come on, hotel motel?

581
01:04:50,310 --> 01:04:51,350
You're talking about hotel motel tax?

582
01:04:51,370 --> 01:04:51,990
Hotel motel tax.

583
01:04:52,270 --> 01:04:53,710
You're 20% of our budget.

584
01:04:55,570 --> 01:04:57,750
But other cities are going to be less than that

585
01:04:57,750 --> 01:04:59,230
with the Chamber in Henry County.

586
01:05:00,370 --> 01:05:05,970
No, that's what we were told so stop bridges. I have a slide stop bridges 20%

587
01:05:05,970 --> 01:05:07,670
Locust Grove is

588
01:05:07,670 --> 01:05:13,030
40 something percent. Are you dealing with that per capita? Are you dealing with that for?

589
01:05:13,850 --> 01:05:21,310
Money's a funding brought in the amount of money brought in okay, so I have it broken down what I do with

590
01:05:21,910 --> 01:05:22,390
the

591
01:05:22,970 --> 01:05:24,950
When I look at is I put everybody's

592
01:05:25,770 --> 01:05:31,410
totals in and then I take the percentage and so and it's based on the real

593
01:05:31,410 --> 01:05:35,310
numbers that are brought in. Well that's fine because I don't want to I don't want

594
01:05:35,310 --> 01:05:39,290
us going down that road I just I'm only going off the last information that

595
01:05:39,290 --> 01:05:43,610
this council was given. My concerns is I've been on this council when it can't

596
01:05:43,610 --> 01:05:48,230
when it comes to those things that the Chamber are doing for the city

597
01:05:48,230 --> 01:05:53,230
because this amphitheater which is the anchor for this whole area this whole

598
01:05:53,230 --> 01:05:59,510
region of the county has brought, we have hotels that are going up and we have a

599
01:05:59,510 --> 01:06:04,210
lot going on and when I come in to come into the city, I'm looking at the

600
01:06:04,210 --> 01:06:08,930
numbers you're giving, but I'm not seeing this type of advertising. That's what

601
01:06:08,930 --> 01:06:13,370
I'm saying because when I come in from the south end, I'm as far as a hundred

602
01:06:13,370 --> 01:06:17,710
miles out and I'm seeing something for McDonald's. When I come out from the

603
01:06:17,710 --> 01:06:21,270
north end, if we just did a picture of the

604
01:06:21,270 --> 01:06:24,390
and how to contact to understand about shows and that,

605
01:06:24,650 --> 01:06:26,430
I would love that, I don't see that.

606
01:06:26,790 --> 01:06:29,210
So the numbers you're giving versus what I've seen,

607
01:06:29,370 --> 01:06:30,670
that's why I'd even just ask our mayor,

608
01:06:30,770 --> 01:06:31,410
have you seen this?

609
01:06:32,190 --> 01:06:34,390
I don't see what you're doing, I don't see this.

610
01:06:34,990 --> 01:06:36,950
And if something could be given to this council,

611
01:06:37,310 --> 01:06:40,310
when you're doing it, that we can go see ourselves,

612
01:06:41,270 --> 01:06:43,910
that would be great because it gives validity

613
01:06:43,910 --> 01:06:47,510
to the presentations right now for what you're giving

614
01:06:47,510 --> 01:06:49,470
and even the question I asked about this point

615
01:06:49,470 --> 01:06:54,570
a point of interest and all that. I'm not sold on that yet, because I guess someone

616
01:06:54,570 --> 01:06:58,530
else had to present it for you, but I would ask that the Chamber would look

617
01:06:58,530 --> 01:07:03,990
closely to what is anchoring this city, which starts with our amphitheater, we

618
01:07:03,990 --> 01:07:07,990
start with what we're doing, we start with the historical piece, and that this

619
01:07:07,990 --> 01:07:13,710
Chamber look closely on the correct way and how to, with the funding that

620
01:07:13,710 --> 01:07:17,250
they're getting, to advertise our city and make it more prevalent for

621
01:07:17,250 --> 01:07:21,890
people to come to our city. And I will say that if I'm doing my job right you

622
01:07:21,890 --> 01:07:28,490
don't see our advertising. Billboards of course you would see but it is not aimed

623
01:07:28,490 --> 01:07:35,470
at residents. Residents are a wonderful byproduct of what we do. Education of

624
01:07:35,470 --> 01:07:40,730
residents but it is about educating people outside of Henry to get them to

625
01:07:40,730 --> 01:07:45,490
visit Henry. So all of our digital ads, the video ads, all those things that

626
01:07:45,490 --> 01:07:50,830
was talking about, they are targeted to cities outside the Georgia cities and

627
01:07:50,830 --> 01:07:57,490
cities outside of the state that we have already seen a specific tendency to

628
01:07:58,290 --> 01:08:01,950
either through research or through our web data that have already showed a

629
01:08:01,950 --> 01:08:06,650
propensity to or for interest for city of Stockbridge. Every city's advertising

630
01:08:06,650 --> 01:08:12,410
is different so we'll have Stockbridge is targeted to different cities than

631
01:08:12,410 --> 01:08:16,050
City of Locust Grove because your visitors are not the same. They're not interested in

632
01:08:16,050 --> 01:08:21,810
the same thing and they're not the same people. So we do target it differently but you are

633
01:08:21,810 --> 01:08:27,250
not going to see. You're not going to go on Roku or on Hulu and see one of your ads

634
01:08:27,250 --> 01:08:31,310
because you're within the city limits. You're not in Little Rock, you're not in Birmingham

635
01:08:32,070 --> 01:08:36,450
or wherever else these cities are being. I've been in the City of Stop Bridge now

636
01:08:36,450 --> 01:08:41,510
and gone on 17 years and I've yet to talk to one single person at anything that

637
01:08:41,510 --> 01:08:45,810
was for people from out of town and say they saw this online or they saw it on

638
01:08:45,810 --> 01:08:49,730
wherever they say they saw it on Facebook they saw it on next door they

639
01:08:49,730 --> 01:08:54,070
heard somebody tell them that's has been from my experience I have no I'm gonna

640
01:08:54,070 --> 01:08:58,250
only speak for John Blunt and one of the things I would ask that you all would

641
01:08:58,250 --> 01:09:03,610
do is to get with the people of the city of Stockbridge that are in those

642
01:09:03,610 --> 01:09:07,170
positions to tell you that the talking points that we would like

643
01:09:07,170 --> 01:09:11,310
seeing and how we would like those be presented because if I won't see it

644
01:09:11,310 --> 01:09:12,230
How can I believe it?

645
01:09:12,550 --> 01:09:14,750
Only thing I believe in that I don't see is God Himself.

646
01:09:15,850 --> 01:09:18,490
And so I need to, so if I don't see evidence or something,

647
01:09:19,370 --> 01:09:20,130
how could I, you know.

648
01:09:20,470 --> 01:09:22,810
What exactly would you like to see?

649
01:09:23,170 --> 01:09:24,930
I mean, because I mean, I'm showing you screen captures

650
01:09:24,930 --> 01:09:28,810
of actual ads that are running or have run.

651
01:09:30,150 --> 01:09:32,390
But when you tell me, I'm sorry to cut you off

652
01:09:32,390 --> 01:09:33,990
because you asked the question, I don't want to go stupid.

653
01:09:34,650 --> 01:09:36,130
When you tell me the point of interest

654
01:09:36,670 --> 01:09:39,170
is that 4,000, I think it's 323,

655
01:09:39,170 --> 01:09:45,670
22 or something like that. When you tell me that, that's less than 10% of a concert year.

656
01:09:46,730 --> 01:09:51,930
And when you tell me that, and then I don't see those type of people at our concerts because

657
01:09:51,930 --> 01:09:56,130
the parameters that you gave, I'm saying I don't see what you're telling me. That's

658
01:09:56,130 --> 01:10:02,430
all I'm saying. I don't see what you're saying. I don't experience that. Maybe my

659
01:10:02,430 --> 01:10:06,590
other council members do and that's fine, but I don't. And then when I ask about it,

660
01:10:06,590 --> 01:10:11,730
It's not really being explained to a point to make it clear enough to me on what because when you say you draw a line

661
01:10:11,730 --> 01:10:16,810
I don't see it. I'm sorry. Can you you don't you don't see what I'm sorry

662
01:10:16,810 --> 01:10:20,630
I know that that my explanation for the data wasn't the best

663
01:10:21,210 --> 01:10:26,970
One of the greatest things that you all can do that we could see is to understand your efforts

664
01:10:27,730 --> 01:10:32,590
If I don't understand your efforts without results, then I question the efforts

665
01:10:34,070 --> 01:10:37,970
So, if I don't understand your efforts, will I just ask you, and I didn't really understand

666
01:10:37,970 --> 01:10:40,650
what you were saying, then how can I adjust the results?

667
01:10:41,350 --> 01:10:44,610
Because if you give it all you've got and we don't have any results, it's not your

668
01:10:44,610 --> 01:10:44,930
fault.

669
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:48,420
You see what I'm saying?

670
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:53,360
So, at this point, if I don't see your efforts, like you say, I won't see it, then I'm

671
01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,000
at a point where what else do I have to go offer?

672
01:10:57,220 --> 01:11:03,180
And I'm more than willing to come and present or do anything that I can.

673
01:11:04,460 --> 01:11:05,100
I can't,

674
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:15,260
because of the way our ads are targeted, I can't, the digital ads, I can't make sure

675
01:11:15,260 --> 01:11:17,020
you see those in the moment.

676
01:11:17,300 --> 01:11:19,320
I can certainly bring you copies of our print ads.

677
01:11:19,460 --> 01:11:23,760
I can bring you, I can email you copies of all of the articles that have been written

678
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,400
about the city of Stockbridge by writers that we've brought in.

679
01:11:26,700 --> 01:11:28,220
I mean, I certainly can do those things.

680
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:34,540
So I won't prolong time. I'm counseling with John Blount. I'll give you one of my cars or somebody give you my car

681
01:11:34,540 --> 01:11:38,540
And when you do those ads so you call me and say you need to check this out

682
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:44,640
And I'll be all right, and I do have copies of every ad we've ever done so I can send you copies of

683
01:11:45,300 --> 01:11:48,000
the magazines or pictures from the magazines

684
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:56,840
I think counseling the other miss. Mrs. Anna. Go ahead, please. Yeah, I think I had this conversation and I share some of the

685
01:11:58,220 --> 01:12:04,120
concerns that Mr. Blunt was registering. This is why I would like Mr. Gardner you

686
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:08,700
come to the podium and Mr. Young will you come to the podium. One

687
01:12:20,830 --> 01:12:21,430
of the questions

688
01:12:21,430 --> 01:12:26,410
that I asked Ms. Luker before we got started was you know what are we doing

689
01:12:26,410 --> 01:12:32,550
with the billboards and what's going to happen? What are we do we currently have

690
01:12:32,550 --> 01:12:37,710
any show promos running on their billboards right now? The answer was

691
01:12:37,710 --> 01:12:44,790
No. First Friday night show. The answer was no. And the answer from their end, I'm not

692
01:12:44,790 --> 01:12:49,990
talking about from your end. I'm talking about from the Convention and Visitors Bureau angle.

693
01:12:50,350 --> 01:12:55,750
They have billboards. I was under the assumption, as I'm sure the council members were, that

694
01:12:55,750 --> 01:13:01,010
we were operating just like we were last year, that we were going to duplicate show

695
01:13:01,010 --> 01:13:08,950
advertisements on the CVB boards just like they did last year. Now, I asked Ms.

696
01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:14,210
Lucca, was she familiar with you, Mr. Young? She said no, she was not

697
01:13:14,210 --> 01:13:19,410
familiar with you and that she had consulted with several members. I

698
01:13:19,410 --> 01:13:25,550
told her about the professional hits that you had on B103, KISS 104, the

699
01:13:25,550 --> 01:13:30,510
digital video promotion that you had, and they don't have any of that. There's

700
01:13:30,510 --> 01:13:36,290
breakdown between what you're doing, which is on a Class A top level, that information

701
01:13:36,290 --> 01:13:42,010
is not getting to them. We need to make that connection between you, her, and the staff

702
01:13:42,010 --> 01:13:49,750
members so we can get that grade A advertising information to them because if they have billboards

703
01:13:49,750 --> 01:13:54,790
that are available for us to use and we got a show on Friday night and they're

704
01:13:54,790 --> 01:13:59,670
not being used, we're missing that because that's part of the service that we pay

705
01:13:59,670 --> 01:14:05,750
for but right now we're not getting that and I think it is and I asked the

706
01:14:05,750 --> 01:14:09,550
question well who was the contact with the city are there there were several

707
01:14:09,550 --> 01:14:14,410
contacts with the city but there needs to be one to generate and to do exactly

708
01:14:14,410 --> 01:14:19,170
what mr. Blunt is saying what I'm saying which is communicate what we want

709
01:14:19,170 --> 01:14:25,390
specifically in terms of shows that we want promoted and events that we

710
01:14:25,390 --> 01:14:30,590
want to promote it not just as you say not just in this in the area but in the

711
01:14:30,590 --> 01:14:35,410
billboards that you have certainly if the majority of the traffic is coming from

712
01:14:35,410 --> 01:14:41,290
inside the these inside the area we certainly want those people at mount at

713
01:14:41,290 --> 01:14:46,550
the Mount Carmel board to drive by it and see it so if we had the Isley

714
01:14:46,550 --> 01:14:51,250
Brothers concert on this the common Mount Carmel board it would be seen

715
01:14:51,250 --> 01:14:58,390
inside of Henry County. If we had it on I-75, it would be seen inside of that. So I'm asking

716
01:14:58,390 --> 01:14:59,810
that we make that connection.

717
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:17,460
So that we're able to cross promote. And I think we did, as we talked about the data that we, in that excellent presentation that we received at Murrow Mander Center, we talked about extended stays and I think it was four hours, not necessarily two.

718
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:26,780
I think it was four hours. And then that, if they were in the city four hours, then they would be more apt to book a hotel stay.

719
01:15:26,780 --> 01:15:33,920
And based on that, I had sent you an email in some of the counterparts over at Panola Mountain.

720
01:15:34,440 --> 01:15:38,980
And so to see whether or not we could tag and put our own package together.

721
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:44,580
So when someone would come to the site, the suggestion would be put forward,

722
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:48,600
but, okay, you could, excuse me, you could go to Panola Mountain.

723
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:49,860
You could go to Yule Forest.

724
01:15:50,020 --> 01:15:52,400
You could go to Atlanta Motor Speedway.

725
01:15:52,660 --> 01:15:54,620
Or you could go to the Stark Bridge Amphitheater.

726
01:15:54,620 --> 01:15:57,360
so we could get that greater than four hours

727
01:15:57,360 --> 01:16:01,620
and a hotel stay in the area as well.

728
01:16:01,820 --> 01:16:03,420
Those are the cross promotion things.

729
01:16:03,940 --> 01:16:07,620
There was some responses on that and we need to get involved

730
01:16:07,620 --> 01:16:10,500
in that in partnering with other organizations.

731
01:16:11,380 --> 01:16:15,600
But firstly, I would like for Mr. Young to make the connection

732
01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:19,140
with, if it's okay with you Mr. Gardner,

733
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:23,660
to make the connection with the CVB so we can get the

734
01:16:23,660 --> 01:16:27,940
advertising that we're using on their platforms and we can take advantage of

735
01:16:27,940 --> 01:16:32,880
those with the specific information we won't provide it, not necessarily because

736
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:36,820
right now it's seen as though they were making the decision but we weren't

737
01:16:36,820 --> 01:16:41,840
actually, they weren't exactly sure what we wanted out of that particular

738
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:46,880
process. But it will be a cleaner look especially for the amphitheater for

739
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:51,580
the concerts that we're having and maybe we can change that today and

740
01:16:51,580 --> 01:16:56,920
get them some information that they need to use those billboards a hundred miles

741
01:16:56,920 --> 01:17:01,660
out, 200 miles out. Surely somebody in South Carolina might want to bring their

742
01:17:01,660 --> 01:17:06,040
mother to the Maxwell concert or somebody in New York. Those are the kind of

743
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:10,320
things that we need to see on those boards and on those advertisements that

744
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:15,860
will specifically bring people to Stockbridge. Was that clear or was it?

745
01:17:16,820 --> 01:17:22,840
And I just want to state that you do have money set aside for city advertising, that you can

746
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:29,600
buy billboards in South Carolina, and we still pay for them, but you get to select where they

747
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:34,580
are and what messages go on them, but that is up to the council as a whole.

748
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:40,600
And whoever to be that one point of contact to let me know who and how that money needs

749
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:47,800
to be spent and then so that's one avenue and then you also have the boards

750
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:54,380
that you're speaking of we do have seven and we can we have as you have a

751
01:17:54,380 --> 01:17:58,440
schedule of people who have already are already committed to spots on the board

752
01:17:58,440 --> 01:18:04,900
and so if you have a concert that you want promoted then you can say hey do

753
01:18:04,900 --> 01:18:09,140
you have a spot and I say I do but only until these days or only for this

754
01:18:09,140 --> 01:18:13,580
month or not on this board but we do on this board I would be happy to do that.

755
01:18:13,740 --> 01:18:17,600
You just just let us know and we did connect this afternoon for the first

756
01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:23,420
time so I appreciate that connection. So your staff is doing a fantastic job of

757
01:18:23,420 --> 01:18:27,240
making the connections it's just making sure that we are connecting with the

758
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:31,480
right people on the right projects because I do know that you know the

759
01:18:31,480 --> 01:18:35,500
amphitheater is handled separately than maybe the conference center or the

760
01:18:35,500 --> 01:18:38,680
main street and so we are connected to all of those people trying to make

761
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:42,820
sure that we're plugged into all the different aspects of the city because we

762
01:18:42,820 --> 01:18:47,480
know that it's so multifaceted it's it's so many different aspects so we would

763
01:18:47,480 --> 01:18:51,660
love to work with you to know what your concert series what your priorities are

764
01:18:51,660 --> 01:18:55,500
what the art is we would love to promote those on our social channels as

765
01:18:55,500 --> 01:19:00,660
well and also obviously on our billboards so and we appreciate working

766
01:19:00,660 --> 01:19:04,860
with Mr. Young too on making sure our welcome center can be at the

767
01:19:04,860 --> 01:19:07,140
property, because we want to work with you.

768
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:09,400
That's what we're here to do, and we

769
01:19:09,400 --> 01:19:11,780
want to make sure that you understand what we're doing

770
01:19:12,220 --> 01:19:14,840
and that you feel comfortable with it.

771
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,480
But whatever that looks like, I'm here.

772
01:19:20,980 --> 01:19:22,080
I'm always available.

773
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:22,900
I'm always here.

774
01:19:23,420 --> 01:19:24,880
I can provide my cars, my email.

775
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,800
I know Ms. Holliday has my email as well, so.

776
01:19:29,300 --> 01:19:33,600
Yes, and as you said, you just said the key thing.

777
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:41,380
You're waiting on those decisions to be made on our side to tell you what we need to do

778
01:19:41,380 --> 01:19:47,000
with those funds if we wanted to use that advertisement outside of the city.

779
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:52,400
You're waiting on us to tell you what we want to do with the seven boards that we have

780
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:58,300
access to on specific things that we want if we want these things done.

781
01:19:58,420 --> 01:19:59,740
That's what I'm talking about.

782
01:19:59,740 --> 01:20:06,400
I'm talking about we need to do what's necessary to get the information to you on

783
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:12,880
our side so that we is there's no you're not unclear on what needs to be on what

784
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:17,220
we want and that connection is made that's what I'm talking about and that's

785
01:20:17,220 --> 01:20:22,440
what I'm asking mr. Gardner to do through the staff is to make sure that there

786
01:20:22,440 --> 01:20:28,040
aren't any ambiguities they know exactly what we want to see and what we

787
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:32,480
want to see coming forward. The one last question is on this graph that you have

788
01:20:32,480 --> 01:20:37,840
here, we were told that Stockbridge was contributing certainly a large amount. Is

789
01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:42,240
this just hotel motel tax or what is this pie graph? The only thing I'm

790
01:20:42,240 --> 01:20:46,380
concerned about is hotel metal taxes. Okay so this graph represents the hotel

791
01:20:46,380 --> 01:20:53,040
motel tax that is coming from the various entities to you all. I'm

792
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:57,260
looking at the hotels, I mean how many hotels are in Locust Grove? A lot.

793
01:20:57,260 --> 01:21:06,000
maybe 15. Yeah. There's tons of hotels. In the city limits. In the city limits. They're all within half a mile from the interstate.

794
01:21:06,340 --> 01:21:16,420
Yeah. And they've built four in the last two years maybe. Okay. So our number should be, certainly should be coming up with the

795
01:21:17,100 --> 01:21:23,440
annexation and the Holiday Inn coming in and several others coming in as well. So those numbers should be increasing.

796
01:21:23,440 --> 01:21:28,940
Yeah, the Holiday Inn is a, it's a great property, and the Holiday Inn, you get the Holiday Inn,

797
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:35,140
the Microtel, no, that one already is yours, Red Roof and the Travel Lodge, I think you

798
01:21:35,140 --> 01:21:36,480
get three additional hotels coming in.

799
01:21:36,960 --> 01:21:41,340
Right, right there in that particular section, so those, that's certainly bumped our numbers

800
01:21:41,340 --> 01:21:41,580
up.

801
01:21:41,820 --> 01:21:47,000
But I just wanted to, so I certainly understand what Mr. Blunt was saying, and that is it.

802
01:21:47,180 --> 01:21:51,460
Those seven boards, we want to use them because we should have access to them,

803
01:21:51,460 --> 01:21:56,940
We just need to get the information to you and I want to be clear. I know that I know that it's restricted in their share

804
01:21:56,940 --> 01:22:05,020
Yeah, but if we had lean forward earlier, we would already be there now, right on the ones that are already spoken for because we have

805
01:22:05,020 --> 01:22:06,280
Agreements, yeah, so

806
01:22:09,020 --> 01:22:10,920
Okay, thank you mayor

807
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:20,960
Before I ask my question I wanted to one commend the CVB board on what they do locally I can attest to that personally

808
01:22:21,660 --> 01:22:30,200
they reach out to small businesses and before that I was a little apprehensive about what exactly the CBB board did.

809
01:22:30,860 --> 01:22:45,060
But when your hands on and you have experience with seeing that they offer a lot of trainings and they really, really try to promote all of the businesses that are within your city or that are part of the chamber.

810
01:22:46,020 --> 01:22:55,880
And they also worked really hard at trying to get the word out outside of Henry County about going to those places.

811
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:57,580
So I do want to commend you for that.

812
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:00,860
I did have a question in regards to the seven billboards.

813
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:04,920
What's the process of getting on those boards?

814
01:23:05,820 --> 01:23:08,340
What is, how can we become a priority?

815
01:23:08,940 --> 01:23:13,300
Or how do you go about picking and choosing who gets to be on those boards?

816
01:23:13,300 --> 01:23:24,460
So we have the seven and they are the first priority is we have visitors guide the advertisers

817
01:23:24,460 --> 01:23:29,800
in our guide and the advertisers get first pick basically.

818
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:36,880
It's part of their package and they get depending on whether they have full page or half page

819
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:40,340
they get either two or one month and then they get to go through and pick which boards

820
01:23:40,340 --> 01:23:40,920
and which months.

821
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:49,980
And then after that, there's a request form that goes through, and you can select, say,

822
01:23:50,060 --> 01:23:51,700
I'd like this board of this month.

823
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,680
And can you give me the amount of advertisers that you have?

824
01:23:54,900 --> 01:23:57,400
You estimate maybe an advertiser's guide?

825
01:23:57,940 --> 01:24:02,640
I think we have 17 total advertisers, maybe 15 total advertisers.

826
01:24:03,340 --> 01:24:06,820
Not all of those are full, or not full or half.

827
01:24:06,820 --> 01:24:12,820
So yeah, and and when they have when so not all of them are full of half

828
01:24:12,820 --> 01:24:18,940
There's about 17 and out of those seven billboards. Are they all electronic and rotate? Yes

829
01:24:18,940 --> 01:24:22,480
And we can run like so right now. We don't have

830
01:24:22,480 --> 01:24:27,280
Partners running right now. We just have our city billboards running and those run

831
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,740
We have all four of our art that rotate through

832
01:24:29,740 --> 01:24:34,360
Okay, so the city is rotating through as part of our our overall campaign

833
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:37,420
So although it's not the Isley Brothers or the concert series,

834
01:24:37,680 --> 01:24:40,260
Stockbridge is still being promoted on seven billboards.

835
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:48,320
So in regards to that, you had mentioned that we have money set aside that we could utilize for a billboard.

836
01:24:49,540 --> 01:24:50,480
What is that money?

837
01:24:50,780 --> 01:24:55,560
Do you guys have that money or do you guys send it over to Stockbridge or how does that work?

838
01:24:56,480 --> 01:25:00,480
And what is that money allocated for?

839
01:25:00,480 --> 01:25:05,720
It is allocated to promote the city of Stockbridge in the way that the city chooses.

840
01:25:05,980 --> 01:25:09,580
This is money that you can use to promote festivals.

841
01:25:10,220 --> 01:25:15,540
It has to be tourism specific, but it can be used with your branding.

842
01:25:15,940 --> 01:25:19,860
So all the stuff that we do has our branding, but this money is set aside for your branding,

843
01:25:20,100 --> 01:25:21,180
your ads, whatever.

844
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:35,440
And because the one thing with the city ads that we, excuse me, the billboards that we do when you use our seven billboards is you do have to allocate a fourth of the board with our logo.

845
01:25:35,860 --> 01:25:42,220
If you use your ad, if you do the city funds, then they're completely yours.

846
01:25:42,520 --> 01:25:44,040
You can do it however you want.

847
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:48,800
whatever the art looks like. In the past it's been used for bridge fest radio

848
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:56,260
advertising or holiday festival radio advertising and that is you basically as

849
01:25:56,260 --> 01:26:00,340
a city contract with that entity whatever that entity is that you want

850
01:26:00,340 --> 01:26:03,980
and then we pay those invoices directly by law we're not allowed to give you

851
01:26:03,980 --> 01:26:08,840
money back but that sends up all sorts of red flags for the Department of

852
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:12,480
Affairs or Department of Community Affairs but basically y'all have the

853
01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:20,960
the invoices come directly to us, we pay those invoices directly up to the amount that you

854
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:21,740
have allocated.

855
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:22,480
Okay.

856
01:26:22,620 --> 01:26:28,500
And so there's a percentage of hotel, motel, tax that comes directly to the city of Starter

857
01:26:28,500 --> 01:26:28,940
Bridge, correct?

858
01:26:29,460 --> 01:26:29,620
Correct.

859
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:30,900
So this is in addition to that.

860
01:26:30,940 --> 01:26:31,200
Correct.

861
01:26:31,400 --> 01:26:31,680
All right.

862
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:36,940
And so can you, well, you just mentioned some of the things that we've spent money

863
01:26:36,940 --> 01:26:38,020
on before in the past.

864
01:26:38,220 --> 01:26:40,880
I know that we, for a fact, have.

865
01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:48,140
I remember food trucks in particular, when I first started them, we reached out to CBB

866
01:26:48,500 --> 01:26:51,800
and used it for some of the billboards that we wanted directly.

867
01:26:53,320 --> 01:27:00,060
So I remember that, but I was just curious, and I'm going to shift gears a little bit

868
01:27:00,060 --> 01:27:04,700
because I know we're all focused on the amphitheater, but there's so much more that

869
01:27:04,700 --> 01:27:12,200
Stockbridge could have to offer and can offer and one of those things is and I

870
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:19,920
believe it's in your field the movie industry and being on the registry has

871
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:25,480
that by chance been updated to at least present maybe the Stockbridge

872
01:27:25,480 --> 01:27:29,080
Amphitheater some of our re-screwed trails and some of the prettier I mean

873
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:34,000
some of some nice shots and locations here in Stockbridge. I haven't updated

874
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:40,520
it recently but we certainly can. You can update that that they've changed the

875
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:43,660
system and I think that other people can update it now you can add your own

876
01:27:43,660 --> 01:27:48,360
listings those kinds of things now so it doesn't all fall to the camera ready

877
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:53,380
liaison to do it but you can we can certainly do that we can update those

878
01:27:54,180 --> 01:27:59,420
and I get calls several a week for different places so right now my my

879
01:27:59,420 --> 01:28:02,740
role is largely a clearinghouse trying to make sure that I'm getting to the

880
01:28:02,740 --> 01:28:11,600
right person but I do and I often get calls that say I need X and rarely is

881
01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:15,940
it the pretty stuff actually it's usually I need a dirt road or a house that's

882
01:28:15,940 --> 01:28:20,760
falling down but there is certainly I have gotten at least three calls about

883
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:26,920
the amphitheater so those we are getting calls we are directing them to the

884
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:31,440
appropriate places and that's that is what I do and what my job is because

885
01:28:31,440 --> 01:28:34,760
I'm not a permitting agency, y'all are the permitting agency, so it's trying to make

886
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:40,060
sure that those interested parties get to the interested people and they can connect.

887
01:28:40,500 --> 01:28:43,120
But having the better photo just definitely works.

888
01:28:44,700 --> 01:28:48,680
Any photos that anybody has, wants, updates, let me know.

889
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:49,660
We can get that happen.

890
01:28:49,820 --> 01:28:50,560
Mr. Thomas, please.

891
01:28:50,840 --> 01:28:51,020
Go ahead.

892
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:51,800
Thank you, Mayor.

893
01:28:52,860 --> 01:28:54,640
Ms. Luca, thank you again.

894
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:57,920
I was with you at the Murrow Managers.

895
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:01,040
And I just want to commend Council.

896
01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:09,660
I think this dialogue is good, getting a better understanding, becoming a team to work together.

897
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:11,880
I think all of this is good.

898
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:21,500
But where I want to go with this and as a city, and I know Mrs. Gantt mentioned some of the things.

899
01:29:22,260 --> 01:29:24,600
Councilman Alexander mentioned some things.

900
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:35,100
But I think we as a city, we have to give travelers a reason to stop in Stockbridge.

901
01:29:35,500 --> 01:29:42,520
Folks traveling up and down our 75 or what have you, it's incumbent upon us to give them

902
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:43,280
that reason.

903
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:48,020
So we're talking tourism and I think we're headed in the right direction.

904
01:29:48,260 --> 01:29:50,620
I think we're doing some of those things.

905
01:29:50,620 --> 01:29:57,720
but I don't want to get too deep and I appreciate the concerns of the council

906
01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:59,980
and they are sharing those concerns with

907
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:05,460
And hopefully you are going to address some of those, but I think it still comes back to

908
01:30:06,000 --> 01:30:13,880
the city of Stockbridge offering, creating Stockbridge as a designation, what people want

909
01:30:13,880 --> 01:30:19,660
to come. If you're traveling, say, if you're coming up from Florida, you're going to wherever,

910
01:30:20,340 --> 01:30:26,340
and you'll say, well, okay, let's stop over in Stockbridge because, and we have to offer

911
01:30:26,340 --> 01:30:30,040
for more than the amphitheater, you see.

912
01:30:30,580 --> 01:30:33,140
And so, and again, I think we are headed

913
01:30:33,140 --> 01:30:36,300
in the right direction, but I don't want us to get

914
01:30:36,300 --> 01:30:40,600
too bent off into, you know, what you're doing,

915
01:30:40,740 --> 01:30:42,120
which I think is still valid.

916
01:30:42,500 --> 01:30:44,280
I think the concerns that have been raised,

917
01:30:44,440 --> 01:30:46,500
they are valid concerns, and hopefully

918
01:30:46,500 --> 01:30:47,960
you're going to address those.

919
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:52,480
But again, we as a municipality and our staff,

920
01:30:52,480 --> 01:31:00,640
economic development, Main Street, all of us. I think we have to give folks a

921
01:31:01,380 --> 01:31:06,280
little bit more as to a reason why you want to come and spend a couple nights

922
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:10,660
in Stockbridge, more than the amphitheater. So I just want to just share

923
01:31:10,660 --> 01:31:14,700
that and I think Council, you know we're on board with that but we just have

924
01:31:14,700 --> 01:31:19,500
to dig a little deeper and we have to produce a little bit more to create

925
01:31:19,500 --> 01:31:24,900
Stockbridge as that place. So when folks leave home or whether they go in

926
01:31:24,900 --> 01:31:30,660
north or south, hey let's stop in Stockbridge because and we got to give

927
01:31:30,660 --> 01:31:35,960
them that because so we have to market that but if we don't have anything why

928
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:41,040
should anybody want to stop? And I'll say that your Stockbridge 15 second

929
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:45,080
video everybody I've ever showed it to says oh it makes me want to go to

930
01:31:45,080 --> 01:31:48,220
Stockbridge because you have things you really do and I think it's about

931
01:31:48,220 --> 01:31:52,700
about packaging and about packaging it to the right people.

932
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:53,920
Yes, yes.

933
01:31:54,380 --> 01:31:56,020
Well, thank you again for coming.

934
01:31:56,820 --> 01:31:58,200
Mayor Ford, I'm going to yield,

935
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:01,420
and hopefully we can move on to the next agenda item.

936
01:32:01,420 --> 01:32:02,400
I just want to double check any other comments

937
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:02,880
from the council.

938
01:32:03,820 --> 01:32:04,200
Thank you.

939
01:32:04,420 --> 01:32:05,440
If not, thank you.

940
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:07,200
Lord, appreciate the presentation.

941
01:32:07,740 --> 01:32:08,260
Thank you very much.

942
01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:08,880
Thank you, counsel.

943
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:10,240
Okay, good deal.

944
01:32:10,780 --> 01:32:13,000
Now we'll move on to the Southern Crescent

945
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:14,580
Technical College, that presentation,

946
01:32:15,100 --> 01:32:17,680
and what we have Mr. Ingram come forward,

947
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:23,660
please. And with the Southern Crescent Technical College, we have Dr. Clark and Dr. Johns. I

948
01:32:23,660 --> 01:32:29,480
know that Harold is here for any things that may have to deal with the amphitheater itself

949
01:32:29,480 --> 01:32:35,800
in that aspect. And of course, talking about the actual contract itself, and I know that

950
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:39,800
Mr. Washington has been involved with the attorneys from the Southern Crescent as

951
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:43,600
well in reference to this particular event. Go ahead, Connie, you all, please.

952
01:32:43,600 --> 01:33:00,280
Thank you, Mayor and Council. On behalf of the event staff, we've been working with Southern Crescent since about last September in coordinating their graduation, which is May 9th of this year.

953
01:33:00,980 --> 01:33:10,640
We've gone back and forth with the attorneys, finding the contract itself. We had to put that together during this process.

954
01:33:10,640 --> 01:33:12,900
And we finally got that together.

955
01:33:13,100 --> 01:33:18,840
Today we have a clean signed contract for your approval.

956
01:33:20,240 --> 01:33:29,000
Could you explain in reference to the nonprofit aspect and all the things that the colleges

957
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:31,900
have to do in reference to the rental process so they understand that?

958
01:33:33,500 --> 01:33:44,080
In the contract, it states that we are giving nonprofits $2,500 rental status, and that we

959
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:51,800
did not have a standard operating procedure other than the $2,500, but there are several

960
01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:53,600
other things that come into play.

961
01:33:53,600 --> 01:34:02,520
the maintenance, the police, the security, all the parking, all aspects which have come

962
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:10,580
to now 16,000, a little over north of $16,000, including the rental fee.

963
01:34:11,160 --> 01:34:17,140
So when they started looking at $2,500, that's just for the shell.

964
01:34:17,140 --> 01:34:23,500
and and so we've come to this place now and provided help them provide the the

965
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:29,640
vendors that they needed to secure this and that's where we are at this point and

966
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:33,540
council in front of you you have you should have a document that indicates the

967
01:34:33,540 --> 01:34:38,840
all the services that they will be paying for to those vendors and those

968
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:43,440
vendors are vendors that are very familiar with the operation of the

969
01:34:43,440 --> 01:34:48,780
apathy and because of the same vendors we use, there's no money coming from the city for

970
01:34:48,780 --> 01:34:52,940
this support of this. This is something that has been worked out with the staff and with

971
01:34:52,940 --> 01:35:00,600
the college and the leadership in reference to the renting of the facility. And I want

972
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:06,260
to go online and say the fact that I can't recall the actual concerts, but if I understand

973
01:35:06,260 --> 01:35:10,580
right, both doctors that are here, Dr. Clark and Dr. Johns, attended a concert

974
01:35:10,580 --> 01:35:14,760
or sometime last year and enjoyed themselves and said,

975
01:35:14,780 --> 01:35:18,360
won't this be a great place to have a commencement service?

976
01:35:18,480 --> 01:35:20,760
Because I think they've outgrown where they have been

977
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:21,980
having in the past.

978
01:35:22,560 --> 01:35:24,640
And this is something that they're looking forward to,

979
01:35:24,700 --> 01:35:26,540
something I would think that hopefully we're looking forward

980
01:35:26,540 --> 01:35:31,680
to in reference to having a routine annual type of event.

981
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:34,800
And if I understand correctly, they

982
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:36,900
expect to have roughly 3,000 people

983
01:35:36,900 --> 01:35:38,920
to attend this particular event, this commencement

984
01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:39,380
service.

985
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:45,480
It's a great thing. Stand by, please. Mr. Alexander caught my attention first, sir. Go ahead, sir.

986
01:35:45,580 --> 01:35:48,040
Yes, sir. Might we just hear from them real quick?

987
01:35:48,180 --> 01:35:49,380
Yeah, that's fine. They're here.

988
01:35:49,680 --> 01:35:50,460
Before we do that.

989
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:50,940
Okay.

990
01:35:51,140 --> 01:35:55,780
I would like on page 3, you must remove clause number K. 8K.

991
01:35:56,060 --> 01:35:56,720
8K, what's 8K?

992
01:35:56,740 --> 01:35:59,560
There's nothing to do with this. Thank you.

993
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:00,700
8K.

994
01:36:01,140 --> 01:36:01,780
What is it?

995
01:36:04,540 --> 01:36:05,760
8K. That's all.

996
01:36:06,340 --> 01:36:07,520
That's part of the list.

997
01:36:07,540 --> 01:36:08,320
Page 3, 8K.

998
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:11,360
Okay, labor and expenses.

999
01:36:12,220 --> 01:36:12,820
Yes, in the contract.

1000
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:15,620
Eight cases parking at the elementary school,

1001
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:16,200
is that what you're talking about?

1002
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:18,140
Right, we don't own the elementary school.

1003
01:36:18,440 --> 01:36:22,640
They have contacted the school themselves,

1004
01:36:23,780 --> 01:36:27,780
the Stock County Board of Education for that.

1005
01:36:28,180 --> 01:36:29,700
And I agree, that's fine.

1006
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:31,260
That's what they're supposed to do,

1007
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:32,980
but we can't contract with,

1008
01:36:33,200 --> 01:36:34,480
put that in our contract agreement.

1009
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:35,240
No, it's not in the...

1010
01:36:35,240 --> 01:36:35,740
Because that's what you do with us.

1011
01:36:36,020 --> 01:36:37,060
No, you're correct.

1012
01:36:37,060 --> 01:36:38,060
for that to be removed.

1013
01:36:38,940 --> 01:36:40,820
Okay. Stand by, please.

1014
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:42,740
Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please.

1015
01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:55,900
The Apple Theater rental has been going on for a couple of years,

1016
01:36:56,560 --> 01:37:00,080
but I just want to say to Southern Crescent

1017
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:05,860
and any other organization that really want to rent the Apple Theater.

1018
01:37:07,300 --> 01:37:15,280
going back some years when, and I was on this council when we discussed a bill in the amphitheater

1019
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:28,700
and the reason for a bill in this amphitheater. And we talked about a facility that would impact the quality of life

1020
01:37:28,700 --> 01:37:32,340
for our citizens as far as entertainment.

1021
01:37:33,540 --> 01:37:37,160
Also number two, we talked about having

1022
01:37:38,260 --> 01:37:41,880
an economic impact in our downtown.

1023
01:37:42,620 --> 01:37:44,100
And I'm saying this to say,

1024
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:49,560
we welcome selling crescent in any organization

1025
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:53,400
that want to come and flood downtown.

1026
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:54,520
That's where we want.

1027
01:37:55,020 --> 01:37:56,900
We want people in our downtown.

1028
01:37:56,900 --> 01:38:02,960
So make no mistake that, you know, we're pushing back on anybody coming.

1029
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:04,740
That's what we want.

1030
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:13,120
But the issue that I have, and I've raised this issue for more than two years now,

1031
01:38:13,180 --> 01:38:17,200
and I think any organization, whether it's the college, fraternities,

1032
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:21,180
it's the roaches, churches, schools, even in your home,

1033
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:28,160
There are rules and regulations, there are policies and procedures that has to be in

1034
01:38:28,160 --> 01:38:31,000
place before you can roll this out.

1035
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:40,460
And that's my sticking point with this, not only with Southern Crescent, but with any organization.

1036
01:38:41,140 --> 01:38:48,100
And I think it's a failure on our part because we did not get it together.

1037
01:38:48,100 --> 01:38:53,360
And I think we're still sort of going around, but from what I'm hearing and what the mayor

1038
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:56,200
just read, I think we're there now.

1039
01:38:56,960 --> 01:39:03,040
But I just want to just say this and, you know, we move to take the policy off the

1040
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:05,780
agenda because it is not ready.

1041
01:39:07,170 --> 01:39:13,120
But again, I just want everybody to understand, and I believe everyone does understand that

1042
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:21,360
But you have to have policies and procedures in place in order to roll this out properly

1043
01:39:21,780 --> 01:39:25,900
because what you do for one, you have to do for all.

1044
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:33,920
And so it was so fragmented, so chaotic, and that's the problem that I have and I don't

1045
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:36,780
see no reason why it should have been that way.

1046
01:39:37,760 --> 01:39:40,740
You know we're wrong folks, we're educated folks.

1047
01:39:40,740 --> 01:39:45,580
And so why couldn't, and look, in Southern Crescent,

1048
01:39:46,660 --> 01:39:48,360
this is not your fault period.

1049
01:39:48,900 --> 01:39:52,180
In the churches, anybody is not your fault

1050
01:39:52,180 --> 01:39:54,160
why this policy is not in place.

1051
01:39:54,940 --> 01:39:56,140
It is on us.

1052
01:39:57,160 --> 01:40:01,540
And I just have a problem because we did not get it done

1053
01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:06,100
and now we're still trying to patch and mismatch

1054
01:40:06,100 --> 01:40:08,360
and all of that when it just,

1055
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:14,360
it wasn't necessary for us to do. So I just want everyone to say that I'm not against anyone

1056
01:40:14,990 --> 01:40:20,500
in coming downtown, the more the merrier. And Castleman Alexander, he is a preacher for this.

1057
01:40:20,940 --> 01:40:26,160
He knows that we want people to come into downtown. We want to have shops and restaurants.

1058
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:32,020
We want folks to come in and, hey, spend your money in downtown. That's what we want.

1059
01:40:32,980 --> 01:40:43,400
But again, it is our responsibility to put the policies and the procedures in place so

1060
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:44,800
we can do just that.

1061
01:40:45,440 --> 01:40:53,400
And I'm just having a problem in understanding why we haven't been able to do this because

1062
01:40:54,220 --> 01:40:59,860
we've been talking about this for two years now, and it's still fragmented.

1063
01:41:00,480 --> 01:41:06,320
So, I'm hoping, and I think that's why it was pulled off because we know it's not ready,

1064
01:41:06,720 --> 01:41:11,900
but hopefully we can go forward and allow Southern Crescent to come in.

1065
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:18,600
But I just want everyone to know that we are not against anyone in coming, participating

1066
01:41:18,600 --> 01:41:19,180
in partner.

1067
01:41:19,600 --> 01:41:24,900
That's what we want, but we have to put some things in place, policies and procedures.

1068
01:41:24,900 --> 01:41:30,900
I don't, you know, I know if you're a member of any organization, you have bylaws, you

1069
01:41:30,900 --> 01:41:34,900
have policies, you have procedures, so y'all know exactly what I'm talking about.

1070
01:41:35,740 --> 01:41:41,460
But there are some things that just were not in place, and so over the last 3, 4, 5 days,

1071
01:41:42,020 --> 01:41:48,200
some things have become clearer, clearer, and I think we can go forward.

1072
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:56,790
But just understand that if and I'm just going to say it was our fault that we did not get

1073
01:41:56,790 --> 01:41:57,290
together.

1074
01:41:57,390 --> 01:42:02,150
So Southern Crescent has nothing to do with you as far as you did something wrong.

1075
01:42:02,430 --> 01:42:03,190
You did not.

1076
01:42:04,110 --> 01:42:09,770
You know you came and you wanted to do this and again you know the failures on us so I'm

1077
01:42:09,770 --> 01:42:14,230
just saying council staff let's get it together.

1078
01:42:14,910 --> 01:42:16,070
Let's get it together.

1079
01:42:16,070 --> 01:42:21,850
So we can put we can roll out to welcome that to all of these organizations and

1080
01:42:22,350 --> 01:42:28,310
Churches and schools or what have you to come in and be a partner with us in our great set of stock bridge and

1081
01:42:28,930 --> 01:42:34,090
That's me. That's basically all I want to say. So let's let's just do a better job in doing that. All right. Good deal

1082
01:42:34,090 --> 01:42:38,150
Thank you dr. John's dr. John's a dr. Clark. Could you come forward, please?

1083
01:42:39,870 --> 01:42:40,930
Yeah, go ahead sir

1084
01:42:42,050 --> 01:42:43,570
It's England real quick on the

1085
01:42:45,190 --> 01:42:51,310
because I haven't had a chance to look it all over the the amounts only rentals all

1086
01:42:51,310 --> 01:42:58,890
of those different fees yes even the one for for for profit those are non-concert

1087
01:42:58,890 --> 01:43:04,810
fees right those are yes all those are non-concert fees those are yes they're

1088
01:43:04,810 --> 01:43:10,530
non-profit fees but they have to pay the regular price for any vendor for

1089
01:43:10,530 --> 01:43:12,710
for the services that they need to operate.

1090
01:43:13,310 --> 01:43:15,730
No, I get that, but I just want to make sure

1091
01:43:16,290 --> 01:43:20,070
that the fee scale here that I have.

1092
01:43:20,450 --> 01:43:24,670
Yes, sir, it is the non-profit in the commercial

1093
01:43:24,670 --> 01:43:25,570
for-profit event.

1094
01:43:26,130 --> 01:43:29,530
All of these are non-concert.

1095
01:43:29,950 --> 01:43:35,550
The last one on that line is the $10,000 it is for profit.

1096
01:43:36,390 --> 01:43:38,330
But the $2,500 is for-

1097
01:43:38,330 --> 01:43:40,050
You can have a profit by having different type of events.

1098
01:43:40,050 --> 01:43:43,410
Yes, this is my concern is that we become

1099
01:43:44,630 --> 01:43:50,030
Competitive within ourselves. I want to make sure none of these. There's no dollars exchange on this event

1100
01:43:50,030 --> 01:43:55,950
So that basic price for the non-profit price is that they're not looking to make any money

1101
01:43:55,950 --> 01:43:57,590
They're not charging people to come

1102
01:44:00,230 --> 01:44:01,550
It's kind of I get that

1103
01:44:02,790 --> 01:44:04,710
Follow me what I'm saying is

1104
01:44:05,190 --> 01:44:09,770
Let's go all the way down to the commercial slash for property bit. Yes, sir

1105
01:44:10,050 --> 01:44:15,010
Can someone come with that amount and do a concert at the amphitheater?

1106
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:20,240
For the for-profit yeah

1107
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:22,780
Yes, sir, then I'm not for

1108
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:26,220
What is that amount I'm not sure

1109
01:44:29,060 --> 01:44:30,100
Respectfully no sir

1110
01:44:30,100 --> 01:44:33,080
That was a rule that you guys asked us to put in place

1111
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:38,960
So we do not rent the facility out to anyone who wants to have a concert in competition with the city

1112
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:43,740
That was a rule put in last year, but where's that it's in it's in the policy

1113
01:44:43,740 --> 01:44:49,300
documented in June of last year we amended it and then we came back and we

1114
01:44:49,300 --> 01:44:53,020
wanted to make further amendments to it it's in this document it's gone what I'm

1115
01:44:53,020 --> 01:44:59,960
saying is if that's our policy with all due respect I believe it

1116
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:04,880
You all know that's our policy. I think that all literature, contractual literature that

1117
01:45:04,880 --> 01:45:11,800
we put out, even this to us, everything should be clear that none of these, none of these

1118
01:45:12,540 --> 01:45:20,500
are for concert purposes, none of these remits. Okay. So under the policy that we adopted in

1119
01:45:20,500 --> 01:45:26,240
June of last year, you have education and a non-profit. They pay a flat fee of 2,500

1120
01:45:26,660 --> 01:45:30,600
And then any associated costs as a release to the use of the amphitheater

1121
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:33,840
That's what adds up to the 16,000 that they're being charged

1122
01:45:34,460 --> 01:45:39,960
So if they have to pay for parking, that's in there. If they have to pay for fire input, that's in there

1123
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:44,580
They have to pay for garbage pickup. That's in there for janitorial service. That's in there

1124
01:45:44,580 --> 01:45:48,960
That's what adds up to the 16,000. Well, let me say this because when you buy cigarettes

1125
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:54,940
No matter what brand or what kind no matter how many wants to call to get certain general got something down this

1126
01:45:54,940 --> 01:45:56,700
and it's called cancer.

1127
01:45:57,740 --> 01:46:00,660
How about every time we put something out about these fees,

1128
01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:04,040
that we put something in there, the caveat in it

1129
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:08,020
as for non-construct purposes, or whatever we need to put

1130
01:46:08,020 --> 01:46:10,500
on everything that we put out when it comes to this.

1131
01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:12,320
I just don't want any misunderstanding,

1132
01:46:12,740 --> 01:46:15,300
any misinformation going out if you wouldn't mind.

1133
01:46:15,500 --> 01:46:19,240
So in the policy document, the amendment remain

1134
01:46:19,820 --> 01:46:21,680
under each section in here,

1135
01:46:21,680 --> 01:46:25,660
We put in there civic or educational events.

1136
01:46:26,120 --> 01:46:32,000
Concerts under this section shall only be allowed under partnership agreement approved by City Council.

1137
01:46:32,780 --> 01:46:36,120
Under non-profit benefit events, we have the same language.

1138
01:46:36,580 --> 01:46:42,640
Concert under this section shall only be allowed under a partnership agreement approved by City Council.

1139
01:46:43,060 --> 01:46:45,440
Under commercial and for-profit events.

1140
01:46:45,440 --> 01:46:50,000
Let's go on, sorry to interrupt, just for sake of time.

1141
01:46:50,640 --> 01:46:52,680
Would there be a problem with putting that on any of these?

1142
01:46:53,140 --> 01:46:54,660
If it is, then we'll just deal with that.

1143
01:46:55,480 --> 01:46:58,000
Would there be a problem, if we do a contract with anybody,

1144
01:46:58,520 --> 01:46:59,940
would there be a problem putting it on here?

1145
01:47:01,980 --> 01:47:04,200
If you're gonna list all the fees,

1146
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:06,520
then we gotta say what the purpose is

1147
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:08,380
for anybody that gets this.

1148
01:47:08,740 --> 01:47:10,300
If somebody got this and looked at it,

1149
01:47:10,380 --> 01:47:13,820
oh, wow, for profit, I can do for profit

1150
01:47:13,820 --> 01:47:19,700
for $10,000, we know, but nobody else would know.

1151
01:47:23,930 --> 01:47:25,670
Can I just clarify something?

1152
01:47:25,690 --> 01:47:27,430
Go ahead, Ms. Thompson.

1153
01:47:27,530 --> 01:47:30,530
And I appreciate Councilman Blunt's concern.

1154
01:47:32,130 --> 01:47:37,870
But again, the question went out about this rental policy.

1155
01:47:38,750 --> 01:47:42,750
And to my knowledge, I was the only one that responded

1156
01:47:42,750 --> 01:47:44,770
and gave some suggestions.

1157
01:47:44,770 --> 01:47:49,990
Even at the retreat, we tried to get into this.

1158
01:47:51,150 --> 01:47:57,010
I don't want Southern Crescent to get caught up in our short comments.

1159
01:47:58,290 --> 01:48:07,310
And I think this is why we delayed approving the rental policy because it's obvious now

1160
01:48:08,070 --> 01:48:09,690
that it is not ready.

1161
01:48:10,310 --> 01:48:19,110
So, but how can we, in order for a serving crescent to meet their May 9th deadline, how

1162
01:48:19,110 --> 01:48:29,750
can we fix it somewhat so they can go forward, which is still a double edged sword because

1163
01:48:29,750 --> 01:48:33,170
what you do for them, you may have to do it for others.

1164
01:48:33,170 --> 01:48:41,630
And just let me say about the policy, Mr. Gardner, in that policy, it talks about an

1165
01:48:41,630 --> 01:48:47,790
agreement between the applicant and the city council.

1166
01:48:49,900 --> 01:48:51,580
That did not happen.

1167
01:48:55,260 --> 01:48:55,960
It didn't happen.

1168
01:48:58,740 --> 01:49:02,060
So responding, I'm going to respond to whatever you get ready to say now.

1169
01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:03,080
Respectfully, sir.

1170
01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:05,280
The contract is what you have before you.

1171
01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:06,760
That's what council approves.

1172
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:09,260
So whenever we get no no

1173
01:49:12,580 --> 01:49:16,320
Finish he wanted to let me just make this come in then I'm gonna give back to

1174
01:49:20,440 --> 01:49:24,660
Mayor Ford yes, ma'am, but I like to get knowledge after

1175
01:49:24,660 --> 01:49:28,780
Councilman Thomas, please well more you're back to to the council of volume, but mr. Garner

1176
01:49:28,780 --> 01:49:31,080
Yes, sir an agreement

1177
01:49:33,140 --> 01:49:33,580
an

1178
01:49:33,580 --> 01:49:35,200
agreement between

1179
01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:43,260
selling Crescent and the City Council. It did not happen. That was where was the

1180
01:49:43,260 --> 01:49:50,400
discussion between selling Crescent and the City Council? So where was that

1181
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:56,760
discussion for us understanding and approving and agreement? But I'm

1182
01:49:56,760 --> 01:50:05,180
going to yield back but I'm just saying I'm just trying to show that yeah

1183
01:50:05,180 --> 01:50:12,140
rental policy has some flaws in it and we just have to sort of get it together

1184
01:50:12,140 --> 01:50:18,320
but I'm still trying to figure out how can we allow Southern Crescent to go

1185
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:25,740
forward even though this policy is not ready but let me just hear back to to

1186
01:50:25,740 --> 01:50:29,900
Councilman Blunt because he did have the floor. Why he did floor? But go and

1187
01:50:29,900 --> 01:50:33,340
answer your question Mr. Thomas's question Mr. Gardner, please.

1188
01:50:33,340 --> 01:50:40,700
So Council Member, when an entity comes, you hire us to do to work with that entity to bring

1189
01:50:40,700 --> 01:50:46,480
them to this point where there is a contract for this council to approve, right? That's

1190
01:50:46,480 --> 01:50:51,560
why you have these people here. And the goal behind that is so that you don't have the

1191
01:50:51,560 --> 01:50:57,760
wrangling over contractees points in a city council meeting with a potential person

1192
01:50:57,760 --> 01:51:04,000
who wants to rent it as long as they meet, as it relates to the policy, right?

1193
01:51:05,300 --> 01:51:06,540
We adopted the policy.

1194
01:51:06,860 --> 01:51:08,640
We did not scrap the policy.

1195
01:51:08,740 --> 01:51:12,380
We say we would amend it as we were moving forward, which we did in reference to some

1196
01:51:12,380 --> 01:51:14,660
of the comments related to outside entities' renting.

1197
01:51:15,200 --> 01:51:21,440
So there's a provision in here that literally says that open to the public under commercial

1198
01:51:21,440 --> 01:51:27,500
and for-profit, open to the public where the primary use is making a profit.

1199
01:51:27,500 --> 01:51:32,040
However, no commercial or for-profit concert shall be allowed at the amphitheater.

1200
01:51:32,140 --> 01:51:35,520
That was one of the chief concerns that we're not competing with ourselves.

1201
01:51:35,960 --> 01:51:41,180
So we did away with that to allow, make sure that no one could come in here and have a concert

1202
01:51:41,800 --> 01:51:43,360
in lieu of a concert that we're having.

1203
01:51:43,840 --> 01:51:45,340
So we put that provision in there.

1204
01:51:45,780 --> 01:51:51,020
So the key is, as you have a, like with any zoning ordinance, you don't scrap the whole ordinance

1205
01:51:51,020 --> 01:51:54,180
and then say we're going to just amend it and leave nothing in place.

1206
01:51:54,580 --> 01:51:56,920
You have something in place and you amend it as you go.

1207
01:51:56,920 --> 01:51:59,620
so you could get it to where you want it to be, right?

1208
01:51:59,700 --> 01:52:01,500
We don't just take the ordinance and say, it's done.

1209
01:52:02,220 --> 01:52:05,180
There's no more zoning, so therefore we don't use it.

1210
01:52:05,500 --> 01:52:07,760
So the best guide that we have is the guide to read.

1211
01:52:07,940 --> 01:52:08,840
What do we have in place?

1212
01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:12,580
Taking into account that there are some language

1213
01:52:12,580 --> 01:52:14,600
that council wants to see change,

1214
01:52:15,020 --> 01:52:16,680
most of those changes that we saw

1215
01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:19,460
are not substantive changes to the actual policy.

1216
01:52:19,580 --> 01:52:23,220
They're like change event manager to contractor, right?

1217
01:52:23,600 --> 01:52:25,240
It wasn't anything substantive that says,

1218
01:52:25,240 --> 01:52:31,820
this is what we want to see change. Correct me by your own counsel. Give me a second.

1219
01:52:31,960 --> 01:52:33,600
I'm going to finish my piece y'all through with me.

1220
01:52:36,580 --> 01:52:42,640
What's your point of order? Is it Jermaine to the topic? They've been waiting for quite

1221
01:52:42,640 --> 01:52:52,040
a period of time. This is not Jermaine to approving their particular agreement. This

1222
01:52:52,040 --> 01:52:54,380
This is the issue with people dealing with us.

1223
01:52:55,200 --> 01:53:01,220
We need to nip this in the bud in this conversation and vote because they've been waiting.

1224
01:53:01,420 --> 01:53:01,840
They're patient.

1225
01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:08,520
We know that this is a legitimate or a function that should be at the amphitheater that would

1226
01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:09,980
bring 3,000 people downtown.

1227
01:53:10,600 --> 01:53:15,940
Stop with the grinding and micromanaging and vote.

1228
01:53:16,540 --> 01:53:17,000
All right.

1229
01:53:18,260 --> 01:53:24,560
Stand by, please. Stand by. You'll get your opportunity. Mr. Watson, you got something you need to say, sir?

1230
01:53:24,640 --> 01:53:33,000
I was going to say, part of where the confusion comes in about this is that, and this is a whole bunch of detail, but I'm going to be brief.

1231
01:53:34,140 --> 01:53:46,920
We have a contract, which is our standard contract. Southern Crescent because they are a state agency, they have a separate contract that they have to send out for signatures on when they're doing stuff because they're a state agency.

1232
01:53:46,920 --> 01:53:52,200
So we have our policies and procedures that we sent them and then the drafting going back

1233
01:53:52,200 --> 01:53:58,020
and forth, they finally sent us their contract and we, you know, Mr. Ingram and everybody

1234
01:53:58,020 --> 01:53:59,900
we've been on the line about this a whole bunch.

1235
01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:05,700
So the rental policies and all the stuff that we have in place is our standard contract.

1236
01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:10,760
What they did was they lifted language from our standard contract and put it in there.

1237
01:54:10,860 --> 01:54:15,480
But because we know that this wanted to, we wanted to fast track this because you

1238
01:54:15,480 --> 01:54:16,680
who all have been asking about this,

1239
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:19,920
this is the information they lifted to put in here.

1240
01:54:20,460 --> 01:54:23,020
So the prices that you see in there

1241
01:54:23,020 --> 01:54:25,620
for the $2,500 and $7,500 and all that stuff

1242
01:54:26,060 --> 01:54:28,620
is simply something that we can just black out, right?

1243
01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:30,080
We can just simply black that out,

1244
01:54:30,300 --> 01:54:31,240
that does not have to apply.

1245
01:54:31,400 --> 01:54:33,480
And when you look at the top of the contract,

1246
01:54:33,620 --> 01:54:35,900
it specifically says that this is just the contract

1247
01:54:35,900 --> 01:54:38,480
between us and Southern Crescent Technical,

1248
01:54:38,780 --> 01:54:40,760
because this is the form that they send over.

1249
01:54:40,840 --> 01:54:42,760
This is not our standard contract.

1250
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:43,920
This is just the contract

1251
01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:48,100
contract that Southern Crescent sent to us. We got the contract at roughly two-thirty

1252
01:54:48,100 --> 01:54:51,960
today as a clean contract. We want to try to get it before you as soon as possible.

1253
01:54:52,180 --> 01:54:56,740
And so what will happen is the final contract, and this is one that the President did sign

1254
01:54:56,740 --> 01:55:01,220
off on, saying that they are fine with the languages in this contract, is that the

1255
01:55:01,220 --> 01:55:06,100
final contract, before we ask for the Mayor to sign off on it, we can make the minor

1256
01:55:06,100 --> 01:55:08,300
edits to it, which would be to take those numbers off.

1257
01:55:09,220 --> 01:55:11,160
Thank you, Mr. Washington. Mr. Block, go ahead, please.

1258
01:55:11,160 --> 01:55:18,940
Thank you. If you remove the other amounts, I'm fine with that. Everything in

1259
01:55:18,940 --> 01:55:24,180
this contract, and let me make something clear, we had a retreat. This is not new

1260
01:55:24,180 --> 01:55:31,880
to me. Everything in here we discussed. Everything in here. I was clear. I'm

1261
01:55:31,880 --> 01:55:36,320
okay with this contract. I'm okay with Southern question. Only concern I asked

1262
01:55:37,120 --> 01:55:42,000
was that if we're going to put the amounts on there, that we can put that writing in there.

1263
01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:49,900
Nobody up on this council put me in office. The citizens did.

1264
01:55:51,120 --> 01:56:00,180
And if we have to stay here until midnight so I can make sure the citizens business is correct in the way that I'm divorced for, that's what I'm going to do.

1265
01:56:00,180 --> 01:56:05,220
You gave them a resolution to a situation and I'm fine with that.

1266
01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:08,240
I'm fine with you all having the event.

1267
01:56:08,920 --> 01:56:13,820
I just had concerns about those extra amounts in that that didn't even pertain to them.

1268
01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:15,600
No, that's why I wanted to explain it.

1269
01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:17,800
This is just document drafting back and forth.

1270
01:56:18,340 --> 01:56:21,560
They lifted it, put it in their contract because we've been going back and forth

1271
01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:23,560
for several months as the mayor can attest to.

1272
01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:28,160
They finally sent over their form contract to us and they sent it over to us

1273
01:56:28,160 --> 01:56:31,860
and it had some edits and stuff and it's a we didn't get a clean contract to Dan to roughly

1274
01:56:31,860 --> 01:56:37,820
to contractually in the future if we would just put that amount that pertains to whatever

1275
01:56:37,820 --> 01:56:43,120
one would be fine with that yes that will totally do that now so before before you sign

1276
01:56:43,120 --> 01:56:50,360
it Mr. Mayor will have edited those understand this Barbara please thank you Mayor Ford okay

1277
01:56:50,360 --> 01:56:52,880
So I have three questions.

1278
01:56:54,200 --> 01:56:58,740
Mr. Gardner, during the retreat, was this contract

1279
01:56:58,740 --> 01:57:00,880
for Southern Crescent provided to the council

1280
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:02,580
for review or discussion?

1281
01:57:03,200 --> 01:57:05,520
No, ma'am, there was really not a concert at the time.

1282
01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:09,280
My next question, the amphitheater policy.

1283
01:57:09,500 --> 01:57:12,840
I know that that was a topic of discussion during the retreat

1284
01:57:13,500 --> 01:57:16,480
and some changes that you are going to make.

1285
01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:16,920
Yes, ma'am.

1286
01:57:17,460 --> 01:57:20,380
I am perfectly fine with Southern Crescent

1287
01:57:20,380 --> 01:57:22,540
holding their graduation ceremony here.

1288
01:57:23,100 --> 01:57:25,800
My concern is the contract.

1289
01:57:27,220 --> 01:57:29,420
I don't know when anybody else received

1290
01:57:29,420 --> 01:57:30,980
a copy of this contract.

1291
01:57:31,580 --> 01:57:33,200
I mean members of the governing body.

1292
01:57:34,100 --> 01:57:38,140
I didn't receive it until I sat down here today

1293
01:57:40,220 --> 01:57:41,260
and I had the copy.

1294
01:57:42,920 --> 01:57:43,900
I haven't read anything.

1295
01:57:44,620 --> 01:57:50,940
So you're asking this council to approve a contract that none of us have read.

1296
01:57:52,500 --> 01:58:01,620
The mayor, he did call me yesterday to make me aware that this item was going to be added to our agenda today for discussion.

1297
01:58:02,500 --> 01:58:06,020
I asked for a copy of the contract to be sent.

1298
01:58:07,300 --> 01:58:13,720
Today, I followed up with him again, today asking, hey, are they going to send us a copy

1299
01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:14,400
of the contract?

1300
01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:20,500
Because I don't want to be here discussing this contract, and I haven't read it.

1301
01:58:21,140 --> 01:58:21,960
None of us have.

1302
01:58:23,600 --> 01:58:26,540
What concerns me is the inconsistency.

1303
01:58:28,310 --> 01:58:31,820
Inconsistency in our processes, and not only that, the pricing.

1304
01:58:31,820 --> 01:58:41,880
I don't know if these pricing that are listed on this document here, I guess these are costs

1305
01:58:41,880 --> 01:58:58,580
that will be, okay, electrical costs, $350, sound $6,445, janitorial $1925, parking attendance

1306
01:59:00,380 --> 01:59:07,500
We didn't have parking attendants even when we hosted our first series of concerts last

1307
01:59:07,500 --> 01:59:07,880
year.

1308
01:59:08,740 --> 01:59:13,880
While we put that on them, those are the kinds of things that concern me.

1309
01:59:14,700 --> 01:59:22,740
If we do this now, we'll have to be consistent with all rental contracts that come to us

1310
01:59:23,160 --> 01:59:25,260
using these same pricing.

1311
01:59:25,900 --> 01:59:28,740
I don't know where these pricing came from.

1312
01:59:31,120 --> 01:59:35,640
Were you involved in the negotiations of this contract, Mr. Gardner?

1313
01:59:36,100 --> 01:59:36,600
No, ma'am.

1314
01:59:37,240 --> 01:59:37,740
You are not?

1315
01:59:38,060 --> 01:59:38,460
No, ma'am.

1316
01:59:38,920 --> 01:59:44,240
The pricing, specifically as released to parking, so last year, no, we did not.

1317
01:59:44,440 --> 01:59:45,560
But this year, we do.

1318
01:59:45,980 --> 01:59:53,780
Under the new management of the amphitheater, leadership, that's something that we implemented this year.

1319
01:59:54,640 --> 01:59:59,980
In terms of having a private parking company to come in and my

1320
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:08,640
It's the parking. As it relates to the document, the breakdown of the fees are associated with

1321
02:00:08,640 --> 02:00:15,480
what we put in the policy document, and to mean to how long they're going to be utilized

1322
02:00:15,480 --> 02:00:21,280
in the facilities. So your typical concert lasts for four hours, right? They usually start

1323
02:00:21,280 --> 02:00:27,060
up at five or six and we go tell about 10 o'clock at night. The graduation is not going to

1324
02:00:27,060 --> 02:00:28,220
before hours, I don't think.

1325
02:00:29,800 --> 02:00:32,600
And so, you know, you then have to look at

1326
02:00:32,600 --> 02:00:35,740
how you prorate the fees related to the use

1327
02:00:35,740 --> 02:00:38,700
of the amphitheater, but everything that we've done

1328
02:00:38,700 --> 02:00:41,340
is part of what we have in the existing policy.

1329
02:00:41,920 --> 02:00:44,180
As we move forward with amending it,

1330
02:00:45,380 --> 02:00:48,660
the data that we got, we got from other communities

1331
02:00:48,660 --> 02:00:50,200
that have an amphitheater,

1332
02:00:51,080 --> 02:00:52,880
one of them being the city of Woodstock.

1333
02:00:53,620 --> 02:00:55,840
I mean, theirs were so germane to ours,

1334
02:00:55,840 --> 02:00:58,420
that's why we looked at theirs, right.

1335
02:01:00,760 --> 02:01:03,660
But we've done everything and the reason

1336
02:01:03,660 --> 02:01:08,640
why, you know, preferably I wanted to bring this at the end because it had to

1337
02:01:08,640 --> 02:01:12,720
go through their process. Lawyers going back and forth was the reason why it

1338
02:01:12,720 --> 02:01:16,820
took so long because it wasn't just our attorneys reviewing it, it was their

1339
02:01:16,820 --> 02:01:20,760
attorneys reviewing it, getting feedback and going back and forth over the last

1340
02:01:20,760 --> 02:01:24,580
couple of months. If we had it our way this would have been to you guys in

1341
02:01:24,580 --> 02:01:29,320
January but it wasn't because when we sent it to them as the city attorney

1342
02:01:29,320 --> 02:01:32,900
state they and they could attest they were back and forth between their legal

1343
02:01:32,900 --> 02:01:38,620
counsel and our legal counsel right that took a lot of time so it wasn't it

1344
02:01:38,620 --> 02:01:42,120
and I would have preferred to bring this with enough time on the 28th but the

1345
02:01:42,120 --> 02:01:45,300
28th of this month would have left them with a week and a half to graduation

1346
02:01:45,300 --> 02:01:50,580
and if it denied they don't have a venue right that was my suggestion

1347
02:01:51,260 --> 02:01:55,560
because I understand this was going to be a question that came from you guys, right?

1348
02:01:55,720 --> 02:02:00,320
And to stay consistent, but sometimes you have to adapt and make changes.

1349
02:02:00,540 --> 02:02:05,460
You can't run through the wall, you got to go around it sometimes or go under it or go over it, right?

1350
02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:09,820
So this was a situation that we didn't inherit. It wasn't of our making, per se.

1351
02:02:10,780 --> 02:02:15,980
It was just, I'll let them tell the story, it was just them, us going back and forth with the changes.

1352
02:02:15,980 --> 02:02:20,360
I get it as to what they wanted to see what we needed to see what they needed to have

1353
02:02:20,980 --> 02:02:26,520
That's what ate up almost two months of this time. Mr. Gardner. My concern is I want to be fair

1354
02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:34,500
I want to be fair to Southern Crescent. We are. A $500 cost on here for parking lot rental rental

1355
02:02:34,500 --> 02:02:44,280
Are we being fair? Is that necessary? I don't think it's necessary. Yes, ma'am

1356
02:02:44,280 --> 02:02:50,920
I am, for the record, Madam Clerk, I am going to be abstaining from this only because I have

1357
02:02:50,920 --> 02:02:53,500
not read the terms of the contract.

1358
02:02:54,500 --> 02:03:02,720
And I have made it a point for three years asking that contracts be provided to the council

1359
02:03:03,280 --> 02:03:06,360
beforehand so that we can review it.

1360
02:03:06,360 --> 02:03:11,540
and by providing it to me at the start of a meeting,

1361
02:03:12,360 --> 02:03:15,160
it's just not sufficient enough for me.

1362
02:03:15,740 --> 02:03:16,140
That's all.

1363
02:03:16,340 --> 02:03:16,780
Thank you.

1364
02:03:16,880 --> 02:03:19,060
All right, Mr. Thomas, please, sir.

1365
02:03:19,860 --> 02:03:20,800
Thank you, Mayor.

1366
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:23,040
A couple of things.

1367
02:03:23,820 --> 02:03:27,000
Again, I'm in favor of Southern Crescent,

1368
02:03:27,560 --> 02:03:31,160
but I'm going to disagree with Councilman Alexander.

1369
02:03:31,680 --> 02:03:33,800
No one is micromanaging.

1370
02:03:33,800 --> 02:03:39,060
As I stated before, you have to have policies and procedures in place.

1371
02:03:39,720 --> 02:03:41,260
That's what we are attempting to do.

1372
02:03:41,620 --> 02:03:49,100
You cannot do anything unless you have policies and procedures, means of how you get the business

1373
02:03:49,100 --> 02:03:49,680
done.

1374
02:03:50,300 --> 02:03:52,260
That's what we're preaching about today.

1375
02:03:53,420 --> 02:03:56,680
Mayor Pro Tem Barber is correct about this contract.

1376
02:03:57,020 --> 02:03:58,620
That's the reason I asked the question.

1377
02:03:58,620 --> 02:04:06,680
Even in the first document, it says an agreement between the applicant and the city council.

1378
02:04:07,060 --> 02:04:12,420
It didn't say the city manager, it didn't say the city clerk, it didn't say the event staff.

1379
02:04:12,860 --> 02:04:17,320
It says the applicant and the city council.

1380
02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:25,640
But again, and I don't want to continue to throw blame, but this policy should have

1381
02:04:25,640 --> 02:04:27,500
been done with.

1382
02:04:27,500 --> 02:04:33,000
We would not be going through any of this talking about a five dollar park and

1383
02:04:33,000 --> 02:04:38,100
this and that. We have to be fair to everyone. If you had a policy in place

1384
02:04:38,840 --> 02:04:45,040
that policy would oversee any and everyone that wanted to rent the

1385
02:04:45,040 --> 02:04:50,940
amphitheater. That's what a policy and procedure does. That's what it does.

1386
02:04:51,200 --> 02:04:56,520
Until we understand that we're going to be still chaos and confusion like we

1387
02:04:56,520 --> 02:05:02,820
are right here right now. We did not see this contract at the retreat. So I'm

1388
02:05:02,820 --> 02:05:07,060
saying, and I don't want to throw no blame at anyone, but Southern Crescent, this is

1389
02:05:07,060 --> 02:05:15,420
not your fault. So I'm just giving the fact, the truth and the facts. That's

1390
02:05:15,420 --> 02:05:19,720
what I try to be about, the truth and the facts. And until we get this policy

1391
02:05:19,720 --> 02:05:25,360
corrected, where it pertains to any and everyone that wants to come, whether

1392
02:05:25,360 --> 02:05:29,340
whether you're a non-profit, whether you're a commercial for a product, whatever the category

1393
02:05:29,340 --> 02:05:35,420
is, the policy would lend itself to that. And this is what we're supposed to, this should

1394
02:05:35,420 --> 02:05:41,100
have been done. And now Southern Crest, it's, you know, getting

1395
02:05:41,100 --> 02:05:44,800
it short far because we didn't do our due diligence. I yield back, Mayor, thank you.

1396
02:05:44,940 --> 02:05:45,920
Thank you. Appreciate it.

1397
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:47,080
May I have to make a motion on this?

1398
02:05:47,280 --> 02:05:48,160
Ms. Gant, please.

1399
02:05:48,760 --> 02:05:49,080
Mayor.

1400
02:05:49,480 --> 02:05:49,820
Yes, ma'am.

1401
02:05:52,240 --> 02:05:59,980
First before I start this is to Mr. Gardner the policy we voted on a policy

1402
02:05:59,980 --> 02:06:04,020
already the meat and potatoes of the policy the dollar amount is that not

1403
02:06:04,020 --> 02:06:07,480
correct we've already voted on those numbers correct those numbers were part

1404
02:06:07,480 --> 02:06:11,600
of the policy document yes and we did we adopt that policy you adopted the

1405
02:06:11,600 --> 02:06:18,560
policy in June of last year 2022 okay and so tell me we were talking about

1406
02:06:18,560 --> 02:06:25,280
amending it but it was only for minor terms correct like agent slash was it

1407
02:06:25,280 --> 02:06:30,600
what were we amending we were only amending certain name specific not not

1408
02:06:30,600 --> 02:06:36,800
the meat and potatoes but just terms is that not correct so the comments that

1409
02:06:36,800 --> 02:06:42,720
we got back were mostly germane to removing events manager and place

1410
02:06:42,720 --> 02:06:46,800
replacing it with contractor consultant was into us so removing

1411
02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:49,240
I think events manager and replacing it with what?

1412
02:06:50,980 --> 02:06:51,820
Contractor, consultant.

1413
02:06:52,420 --> 02:06:52,780
Contract, consultant.

1414
02:06:52,940 --> 02:06:55,640
That was the majority of the references.

1415
02:06:56,180 --> 02:06:56,400
Okay.

1416
02:06:56,520 --> 02:06:57,960
There was some other ones in there.

1417
02:06:58,140 --> 02:06:59,060
I can't remember off the head

1418
02:06:59,060 --> 02:07:00,400
because I don't have the notes in front of me.

1419
02:07:00,600 --> 02:07:03,080
But it was not dealing with the numbers

1420
02:07:03,080 --> 02:07:04,640
and what we had already defined

1421
02:07:04,640 --> 02:07:07,520
as non-profit educational expenses.

1422
02:07:07,680 --> 02:07:08,200
Is that correct?

1423
02:07:08,420 --> 02:07:11,740
There was one area that I remember specifically,

1424
02:07:11,740 --> 02:07:20,940
I think that we wanted to add in there as it relates to I know it was civic

1425
02:07:20,940 --> 02:07:25,100
educational and then there was one other language we wanted to add to that to

1426
02:07:25,100 --> 02:07:25,660
that to cover.

1427
02:07:29,320 --> 02:07:35,220
What was it what area were we gonna add so because it was

1428
02:07:35,220 --> 02:07:40,660
non-profits civic was it like yes so under the under the current language we

1429
02:07:40,660 --> 02:07:45,220
We had civic, educational, non-profit benefits,

1430
02:07:46,320 --> 02:07:48,800
private, commercial, and non-for-profit events.

1431
02:07:49,200 --> 02:07:52,200
There was one other type of entity,

1432
02:07:52,340 --> 02:07:53,740
I think that we were going to amend,

1433
02:07:54,120 --> 02:07:55,680
and I think it had to deal with civic

1434
02:07:56,320 --> 02:07:58,140
changing the language and that civic or educational

1435
02:07:58,140 --> 02:08:00,480
out in some other type of entity.

1436
02:08:00,620 --> 02:08:01,580
I don't have my notes in front of me,

1437
02:08:01,600 --> 02:08:04,480
but I know that's what came out of the retreat

1438
02:08:04,480 --> 02:08:06,460
in terms of the many not portion of it.

1439
02:08:06,460 --> 02:08:08,600
Okay, so just adding maybe another category.

1440
02:08:08,600 --> 02:08:14,960
But not necessarily, it doesn't change anything with nonprofits, is that not correct in education?

1441
02:08:15,260 --> 02:08:17,400
They would still be the same category.

1442
02:08:17,940 --> 02:08:22,360
There was also some discussion regarding the fees and should we increase certain fees,

1443
02:08:23,060 --> 02:08:27,360
but there was no, I don't think there was a consensus in Madam City Clerk, you could remind me if I'm right.

1444
02:08:27,580 --> 02:08:35,140
But currently the adopted policy that we have in place right now today, fits this contract agreement, correct?

1445
02:08:35,140 --> 02:08:44,160
And this contract agreement reads between Southern Crescent Technological College and the City of Stockbridge. Is that correct?

1446
02:08:45,220 --> 02:08:48,000
That's on the first page. All right, that's at the top.

1447
02:08:48,740 --> 02:08:59,900
And what my recommendation is, well, I'm looking at page one, this rental agreement is made and entered into this 10th day of April,

1448
02:08:59,900 --> 02:09:07,360
comma, 2023 comma, buy in between Southern Crescent Technical College

1449
02:09:08,120 --> 02:09:13,220
parentheses here and after renter and the city of Stockbridge, Georgia here and

1450
02:09:13,220 --> 02:09:17,980
after city. Is that not correct? I would say yes. Okay. Everybody see that on page

1451
02:09:17,980 --> 02:09:23,400
one at the top? All right. I want to make sure. No. On the page one, no one has

1452
02:09:23,400 --> 02:09:29,680
gotten a copy. Do you have a copy of this Amphitheater in a poem? It's the

1453
02:09:29,680 --> 02:09:31,380
Okay, hold on folks, hold on.

1454
02:09:31,400 --> 02:09:33,000
Are you talking about Southern Crescent?

1455
02:09:33,440 --> 02:09:35,320
No, I'm looking at the rental agreement

1456
02:09:35,320 --> 02:09:37,660
buying between Southern Crescent Technical College

1457
02:09:37,660 --> 02:09:38,980
and the City of Stopbridge.

1458
02:09:39,400 --> 02:09:42,260
So one question, I'm not finished.

1459
02:09:45,240 --> 02:09:48,100
The 25, on page three

1460
02:09:49,440 --> 02:09:50,540
of this agreement,

1461
02:09:52,420 --> 02:09:55,000
we've already asked that the other

1462
02:09:55,680 --> 02:09:57,680
information that was copied and pasted

1463
02:09:57,680 --> 02:10:03,160
a basic list of the other events such as private events

1464
02:10:03,160 --> 02:10:07,240
and commercial for profit events be taken out, removed,

1465
02:10:07,420 --> 02:10:10,060
so there will not prevent any confusion there.

1466
02:10:11,020 --> 02:10:15,420
A policy already has in place that anyone else

1467
02:10:15,420 --> 02:10:19,140
who rents our amphitheater cannot have concerts

1468
02:10:19,680 --> 02:10:20,580
at the facility.

1469
02:10:21,440 --> 02:10:23,060
So that's something totally different.

1470
02:10:23,240 --> 02:10:25,000
That's in a policy that we've already adopted

1471
02:10:25,000 --> 02:10:25,700
and voted on.

1472
02:10:25,700 --> 02:10:33,180
And I asked that we remove on Clause 8K parking at elementary school that we

1473
02:10:33,180 --> 02:10:37,600
remove that because that has nothing to do with the city of Sao Paulo, I can't, we

1474
02:10:37,600 --> 02:10:43,100
cannot contract with that. Understanding? All right. And in regards to

1475
02:10:43,100 --> 02:10:50,060
everything else, my only other questions are one, what is the clause

1476
02:10:50,060 --> 02:10:57,020
due to force of nature in regards to rain, what is the what are we going what's

1477
02:10:57,020 --> 02:11:00,640
going to happen at that point has that been discussed at all? I don't see it in

1478
02:11:00,640 --> 02:11:06,680
disagreement so I need to know I don't see that clause in here I'm sorry I'm a

1479
02:11:06,680 --> 02:11:14,640
lawyer so I'm asking where is that and I need to know whether or not that

1480
02:11:14,640 --> 02:11:20,300
clause and what would be the plan B because it says that once you rent it's

1481
02:11:20,300 --> 02:11:24,840
non-refundable. So let me know what we are with that. I want to answer to that

1482
02:11:24,840 --> 02:11:33,360
one and I also want to know I don't have any objections none whatsoever. I

1483
02:11:33,360 --> 02:11:37,200
think this is great. I think this is what we want. We want graduations at

1484
02:11:37,200 --> 02:11:41,240
our amphitheater. We want the community and we're very proud and I would

1485
02:11:41,240 --> 02:11:47,000
love to always support Southern Crescent. I want you to know that. I will vote in favor

1486
02:11:47,000 --> 02:11:54,200
of this once we get all our, once you can tell me the answer to, in regards to the rain clause

1487
02:11:54,200 --> 02:12:00,640
or whatever happens clause, the force of nature clause, and also I need to see the, I saw

1488
02:12:00,640 --> 02:12:07,080
a clause in here about damages, but those damages, the clause did not, one second.

1489
02:12:08,280 --> 02:12:15,860
Page 4, Section 12, says damage to personal property to the extent permitted by Georgia

1490
02:12:15,860 --> 02:12:16,120
Law.

1491
02:12:16,200 --> 02:12:20,320
The city is not liable for the loss of damage of any goods, equipment, a personal item stored

1492
02:12:20,320 --> 02:12:26,200
on or used at or around the facility premises, but what about the damages to our premises?

1493
02:12:26,860 --> 02:12:28,060
What's the repercussion of that?

1494
02:12:28,500 --> 02:12:29,060
Where's that clause?

1495
02:12:30,320 --> 02:12:35,200
Those two items I need, as soon as possible.

1496
02:12:36,520 --> 02:12:46,540
Other than that, I 100% support Southern Crescent being a part of our participating here.

1497
02:12:46,880 --> 02:12:52,580
I want to apologize, I'm sorry you have to go through this scrutiny of debates, it's

1498
02:12:52,580 --> 02:12:53,160
not your fault.

1499
02:12:53,360 --> 02:12:57,740
I believe that everybody on this council, based off of what I've heard, supports the

1500
02:12:57,740 --> 02:12:59,640
fact that graduation would be held here.

1501
02:12:59,840 --> 02:13:00,780
We will love it here.

1502
02:13:00,780 --> 02:13:08,620
I just want to make sure that our, and I would vote for it today as so long as those clauses

1503
02:13:08,620 --> 02:13:09,960
are in there to protect the city.

1504
02:13:10,380 --> 02:13:11,140
That's our job.

1505
02:13:12,600 --> 02:13:13,120
Okay.

1506
02:13:13,200 --> 02:13:13,940
Mr. Thomas, sir.

1507
02:13:15,040 --> 02:13:19,760
I'm going to agree, as I stated before, I'm in favor of Southern Crescent.

1508
02:13:20,440 --> 02:13:27,920
But my message is to the staff, Southern Crescent, and I'm going to continue to

1509
02:13:27,920 --> 02:13:28,520
say this.

1510
02:13:28,520 --> 02:13:34,840
Now in that agreement, in that rental policy that we approve that we keep

1511
02:13:34,840 --> 02:13:44,820
referencing to, it says agreement between the applicant and the city council.

1512
02:13:45,260 --> 02:13:49,400
Now we understand that some of us understand when you see the city of

1513
02:13:49,400 --> 02:13:56,660
Stockbridge that's the same as the city council. Number one. But the

1514
02:13:56,660 --> 02:14:02,860
contract itself and Councilwoman Barber is correct. This is what we have to stop

1515
02:14:02,860 --> 02:14:09,480
doing staff is giving us something at the last minute. We just had a retreat. We

1516
02:14:09,480 --> 02:14:14,860
should have had this contract at the retreat so we could this should have

1517
02:14:14,860 --> 02:14:22,020
been a we should be on on on agenda item 12 by now because it's a failure of

1518
02:14:22,020 --> 02:14:22,960
of a process.

1519
02:14:24,740 --> 02:14:25,880
What's your point of order, sir?

1520
02:14:26,420 --> 02:14:27,040
Point of order.

1521
02:14:27,660 --> 02:14:29,180
If we have any

1522
02:14:30,580 --> 02:14:31,700
OZ or anything

1523
02:14:31,700 --> 02:14:33,500
with staff itself

1524
02:14:33,940 --> 02:14:36,020
as a council, those things

1525
02:14:36,020 --> 02:14:37,620
are addressed behind closed doors.

1526
02:14:38,960 --> 02:14:40,320
Well I agree with that, Mayor.

1527
02:14:40,740 --> 02:14:42,600
The issue at hand right now

1528
02:14:42,600 --> 02:14:44,300
is are we going to approve this

1529
02:14:44,300 --> 02:14:44,800
or not?

1530
02:14:45,300 --> 02:14:47,960
Because while we're going to take the staff out to the barn

1531
02:14:47,960 --> 02:14:49,840
and spank them, then that's a totally different

1532
02:14:49,840 --> 02:14:52,320
and that's a totally different meeting.

1533
02:14:52,740 --> 02:14:54,620
Are we gonna approve this or not right now?

1534
02:14:55,100 --> 02:14:56,340
May I finish?

1535
02:14:57,160 --> 02:14:58,020
Play it and finish.

1536
02:14:58,040 --> 02:14:59,920
Okay, I'm gonna agree with that.

1537
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:09,360
That is for us, the staff. But when we try to deal with these things proactively, and then

1538
02:15:09,360 --> 02:15:15,020
if it don't happen, then it leaves us no course but to do just that. But again, I'm in favor,

1539
02:15:15,320 --> 02:15:23,180
I will vote in favor of this. But I get tired of coming here on the dyers and going through

1540
02:15:23,180 --> 02:15:26,740
the same thing every day, and especially when we start talking about contract.

1541
02:15:29,900 --> 02:15:29,980
Council

1542
02:15:29,980 --> 02:15:32,140
We have said it's over and over and over.

1543
02:15:32,540 --> 02:15:35,720
Give us contract in a timely manner so we can review

1544
02:15:35,720 --> 02:15:39,640
and we can make an intelligent and a comprehensive decision.

1545
02:15:40,280 --> 02:15:43,220
So I just want to say that I'm more apologized

1546
02:15:43,220 --> 02:15:48,420
for task and counsel, but I mean staff,

1547
02:15:49,080 --> 02:15:50,780
but when you don't give us a choice,

1548
02:15:51,640 --> 02:15:53,200
this is sort of where we are.

1549
02:15:53,920 --> 02:15:56,800
So, but going forward, may I'm going to yield back

1550
02:15:56,800 --> 02:16:03,380
and hopefully whatever the contract says and whatever the agreements are, you know,

1551
02:16:03,500 --> 02:16:08,540
we can sort of just go forward and I guess in the other organization that

1552
02:16:08,540 --> 02:16:15,020
come in behind this, how do we treat them? What I'm looking for now is a

1553
02:16:15,020 --> 02:16:20,660
motion with the particular things that we want to see change. I guess a

1554
02:16:20,660 --> 02:16:23,980
couple different things that were identified that need to be changed to

1555
02:16:23,980 --> 02:16:34,240
And provided that we have we document those particular changes properly for the clerk and of understanding and have a motion to go ahead and approve this particular contract.

1556
02:16:34,380 --> 02:16:44,820
So in that case, Mr Gardner and Mr Washington, could you come back to the podium first please before we go down this road?

1557
02:16:45,200 --> 02:16:46,300
I want you all present.

1558
02:16:46,480 --> 02:16:47,160
I got it.

1559
02:16:47,180 --> 02:16:47,440
Okay.

1560
02:16:47,640 --> 02:16:48,100
I got it.

1561
02:16:48,100 --> 02:16:51,400
I want to make sure we have a group here understand life for all of you over here

1562
02:16:59,590 --> 02:17:04,450
Hi, this is this on you now miss gap. Yes, I'll go right here, please mayor

1563
02:17:04,450 --> 02:17:10,130
I move that we approve the rental between southern Crescent and the city of stop bridge

1564
02:17:11,090 --> 02:17:16,410
With conditions changes in the contract agreement to read room on page three

1565
02:17:17,670 --> 02:17:19,690
remove under clause six

1566
02:17:20,530 --> 02:17:28,670
fees, removed private events at $7,500, and commercial slash for-profit events of $10,000.

1567
02:17:29,110 --> 02:17:34,550
Specifically just state what we are renting for, which is this non-profit educational

1568
02:17:34,550 --> 02:17:40,270
event, or educational event, civic, I'm sorry, civic and educational event.

1569
02:17:41,030 --> 02:17:47,950
I also, wait, I'm not done, I also asked on Clause 8 that we remove Clause 8 item

1570
02:17:47,950 --> 02:17:51,730
on K, which reads Parking at Elementary School on page three.

1571
02:17:52,710 --> 02:17:56,210
We also need to add into the contract agreement.

1572
02:18:00,020 --> 02:18:04,970
There's in our policy, we voted for number six, which is security slash damage deposits,

1573
02:18:05,230 --> 02:18:06,490
and we talk about damages.

1574
02:18:06,850 --> 02:18:11,250
If anything happened to the amphitheater, that needs to be placed into the agreement

1575
02:18:12,170 --> 02:18:18,890
along with the mentioning of, you know, the rain or rain out or whatever the

1576
02:18:18,890 --> 02:18:24,130
case may be. Having said that, I ask that we move to approve this with those

1577
02:18:24,130 --> 02:18:27,870
conditions. Second. Okay, motion has been made in a second. We have plenty of

1578
02:18:27,870 --> 02:18:31,510
discussion. So all in favor of motion please indicate. The procedure is a

1579
02:18:31,510 --> 02:18:36,330
discussion. One of the things I want to say is that this concern came up

1580
02:18:36,330 --> 02:18:43,310
about about the rain dating is there an alternative day all this came up and I

1581
02:18:43,310 --> 02:18:47,250
get to hear anything about that it would the staffs gonna work up so all

1582
02:18:47,250 --> 02:18:50,870
in favor of the motion please indicate once again all right it's you know for

1583
02:18:50,870 --> 02:18:58,070
four on and one of stention 401 okay forward I like to add a comment for my

1584
02:18:58,070 --> 02:19:05,770
stanchion madam clerk madam clerk for the record the full council was not

1585
02:19:05,770 --> 02:19:12,730
provided a copy of the contract prior to the start of tonight's meeting. I will

1586
02:19:12,730 --> 02:19:21,190
abstain for that reason. Thank you. Okay, 4-0-1 motion passed. Dr. Clark and Dr.

1587
02:19:21,430 --> 02:19:27,310
Johns, congratulations. We look for a long, long relationship with your college and

1588
02:19:27,310 --> 02:19:31,150
I know it's gonna be an outstanding event. I look forward to that and look

1589
02:19:31,150 --> 02:19:33,990
forward to having a good time and watching everybody come across the

1590
02:19:33,990 --> 02:19:38,150
get to diplomas, families, grandparents, children,

1591
02:19:38,390 --> 02:19:40,250
enjoy themselves, you and your staff,

1592
02:19:40,730 --> 02:19:41,710
have done a wonderful job.

1593
02:19:42,050 --> 02:19:43,210
And by the way, before you go,

1594
02:19:44,130 --> 02:19:45,430
I don't know if there's anything you wanna say,

1595
02:19:45,550 --> 02:19:48,050
you can do it now, sir, or ma'am, if you'd like,

1596
02:19:48,210 --> 02:19:51,090
it's up to you, but thank you for being so patient

1597
02:19:51,090 --> 02:19:51,810
and working with us.

1598
02:19:52,470 --> 02:19:53,590
Thank you all so much.

1599
02:19:56,260 --> 02:19:58,880
I'll just say, good afternoon, good evening, council.

1600
02:19:59,120 --> 02:20:01,460
Thank you, Mayor Ford, thank you all of you

1601
02:20:01,460 --> 02:20:02,240
for your support.

1602
02:20:02,880 --> 02:20:04,200
Southern Crescent Technical College,

1603
02:20:04,200 --> 02:20:06,340
which is one of 22 technical colleges here

1604
02:20:06,340 --> 02:20:07,120
in the state of Georgia.

1605
02:20:07,740 --> 02:20:10,580
We are proud to be able to serve not only Henry County

1606
02:20:10,580 --> 02:20:11,360
but Stockbridge.

1607
02:20:11,620 --> 02:20:13,780
We're able to host our graduation here this year.

1608
02:20:14,680 --> 02:20:18,040
Approximately 2,500 individuals, over 400 graduates

1609
02:20:18,040 --> 02:20:21,000
will be on site to celebrate as they

1610
02:20:21,000 --> 02:20:23,420
earn their associate's degrees, their diplomas,

1611
02:20:23,520 --> 02:20:25,260
and their technical certificates of completion.

1612
02:20:25,720 --> 02:20:27,960
So we're excited to be able to support workforce development

1613
02:20:27,960 --> 02:20:30,080
in the region, and particularly in Henry County.

1614
02:20:30,500 --> 02:20:32,700
And look forward to seeing all of you at the graduation

1615
02:20:32,700 --> 02:20:36,340
this year as we celebrate our students and we help support our industry

1616
02:20:36,340 --> 02:20:40,360
partners to keep Georgia number one for workforce development. So thank you so

1617
02:20:40,360 --> 02:20:47,600
much. Thank you sir. I appreciate it. All righty. Sanitation rollout plan presented

1618
02:20:47,600 --> 02:20:48,740
by Mr. Aaron please.

1619
02:20:58,970 --> 02:21:01,850
Good evening Mr. Mayor and Council. Tonight we come

1620
02:21:01,850 --> 02:21:06,670
before you to discuss our public works in GFL. We'll roll out the

1621
02:21:06,670 --> 02:21:09,350
sanitation services for the recently annexed residents

1622
02:21:10,950 --> 02:21:16,610
This has been a long arduous process. This has been more difficult than when I oversaw

1623
02:21:17,310 --> 02:21:22,070
The recycling program rollout for 96,000 customers with the city of Atlanta

1624
02:21:22,630 --> 02:21:26,190
one of the most challenging thing was actually getting a

1625
02:21:26,750 --> 02:21:30,510
Listing that was accurate and up to date that we could

1626
02:21:30,510 --> 02:21:38,850
provide and review and scrutinize with GFL then the next thing was how were we

1627
02:21:38,850 --> 02:21:43,070
going to go about building the residents as the city doesn't currently have a

1628
02:21:43,070 --> 02:21:47,670
building mechanism in place how we go about building them temporarily for this

1629
02:21:47,670 --> 02:21:53,870
year and ensuring that we collect the revenues to support this service and the

1630
02:21:53,870 --> 02:21:59,350
third thing was how do we go about integrating the annex residents into

1631
02:21:59,350 --> 02:22:06,130
the current sanitation system. And last but not least was, how do we allow

1632
02:22:06,130 --> 02:22:12,590
residents to transition from their current provider to the city's provider?

1633
02:22:12,910 --> 02:22:17,210
Because some residents we've learned have paid up for the year. They've paid

1634
02:22:17,210 --> 02:22:22,450
through 2023. Some have varying expiring dates on their current terms.

1635
02:22:23,130 --> 02:22:27,690
Some are satisfied with the current provider that they have, but the city

1636
02:22:27,690 --> 02:22:31,370
maybe makes it mandatory that residents have to use the city's provider.

1637
02:22:32,190 --> 02:22:39,210
And so what we have done is we've had bi-weekly meetings with GFL and our representative.

1638
02:22:39,770 --> 02:22:43,150
We have secured the carts, but the main thing was the billing piece.

1639
02:22:43,810 --> 02:22:48,510
Because when we transitioned the residents in carriage lates, we had 100 customers.

1640
02:22:48,950 --> 02:22:54,530
So we could absorb those cost, it cost us $1,200 a month to absorb those customers

1641
02:22:54,530 --> 02:22:56,210
from August through the end of the year.

1642
02:22:56,210 --> 02:23:02,250
But with these over 2,000 customers, it's going to be about $40,000 a month.

1643
02:23:02,550 --> 02:23:05,250
So we had to make sure that we get the revenue for that.

1644
02:23:05,670 --> 02:23:12,210
The first thing that I presented to you in your packet was just a time outlining how

1645
02:23:12,210 --> 02:23:17,670
much time and effort has been spent by Jeremy Goodwin, Leslie Norwoodsworth, and I would

1646
02:23:18,250 --> 02:23:23,370
represent this from GFL to make sure that this thing went off smoothly and went as

1647
02:23:23,370 --> 02:23:24,870
little hiccups as possible.

1648
02:23:24,870 --> 02:23:30,730
And also to ensure that the data and information we had was as accurate as possible because

1649
02:23:30,730 --> 02:23:33,070
we bill on a property tax statement.

1650
02:23:33,350 --> 02:23:38,770
And when this goes out, we want to be accurate because if not, we're going to have a process

1651
02:23:38,770 --> 02:23:44,750
to refund people that are not in the city but were billed for the service.

1652
02:23:45,070 --> 02:23:51,290
So currently, there are about 742 customers that are currently GFL customers.

1653
02:23:51,290 --> 02:24:02,810
And so some 200 expire on June 1st, 262 people will begin paying the city's rate.

1654
02:24:03,630 --> 02:24:07,850
On July 1st, 234 customers will start paying the rate.

1655
02:24:08,050 --> 02:24:10,290
And on August 1st, 236.

1656
02:24:10,950 --> 02:24:18,610
So we finally got a list that we felt was accurate on the 17th of March from the tax commissioners.

1657
02:24:18,610 --> 02:24:27,470
So we sent out a letter to all of those customers on April 3rd and that their carts will be delivered

1658
02:24:27,470 --> 02:24:33,870
on May, starting May 1st, we'll start delivering those carts to the 1,300 that are not GFL customers.

1659
02:24:34,630 --> 02:24:40,410
And June 5th, residents will start receiving service from GFL at the city's preferred

1660
02:24:40,410 --> 02:24:40,850
rate.

1661
02:24:41,290 --> 02:24:46,350
And one of the things, we've been getting a lot of emails and calls from new customers.

1662
02:24:46,350 --> 02:24:52,290
They're excited and they're also liking the fact that they're going to get three additional

1663
02:24:52,290 --> 02:24:56,590
services because most people just get sanitation and that's it, they don't get the recycling.

1664
02:24:57,210 --> 02:25:03,250
So we've had some that are concerned that in the county they were allowed to not have

1665
02:25:03,250 --> 02:25:04,310
sanitation services.

1666
02:25:04,750 --> 02:25:08,690
So we've had a couple of residents calls that, well, I take mine to work with me.

1667
02:25:09,010 --> 02:25:14,070
But the process is rolling out in May, the first of May, they'll start receiving

1668
02:25:14,070 --> 02:25:19,470
their carts, and then on the 5th of June, that's when the service goes live and everybody

1669
02:25:19,470 --> 02:25:22,190
becomes a City of Stop-Bridge customer.

1670
02:25:24,410 --> 02:25:26,590
Entertaining any questions that anyone may have?

1671
02:25:26,950 --> 02:25:29,310
Well, I like the presentation and its timeline.

1672
02:25:29,990 --> 02:25:32,350
I'm going to read it thoroughly.

1673
02:25:32,670 --> 02:25:36,390
I understand that you've been doing a lot of good work, so transitioning to these

1674
02:25:36,390 --> 02:25:40,710
new customers is something that obviously you've got a plan and we need to implement

1675
02:25:40,710 --> 02:25:45,450
at the plan properly and make sure that those new citizens realize that we do care about

1676
02:25:45,450 --> 02:25:50,010
them, we're going to take care of them and make sure that they understand that they want

1677
02:25:50,010 --> 02:25:54,050
to be proud to join the City of Starbridge and they voted the right way.

1678
02:25:54,590 --> 02:25:54,790
Okay?

1679
02:25:55,070 --> 02:25:56,070
Any other comments from the Council?

1680
02:25:56,390 --> 02:25:56,950
Yes, ma'am.

1681
02:25:57,030 --> 02:25:57,850
Go ahead, please, Ms. Barbara.

1682
02:25:58,090 --> 02:25:59,870
Thank you, Mr. Aaron, for your presentation.

1683
02:26:00,850 --> 02:26:04,150
According to the timeline here,

1684
02:26:08,680 --> 02:26:21,940
I see on the second page where procurement in December 7th

1685
02:26:21,940 --> 02:26:30,720
an email from procurement to Sanitation Evaluation Committee, I assume that is for you all to

1686
02:26:30,720 --> 02:26:40,160
determine the bids or proposals that were submitted. However, the council approved the extension

1687
02:26:40,460 --> 02:26:50,980
of the existing contract when the bid or advertisement for the sanitation was still open. I don't

1688
02:26:50,980 --> 02:26:59,880
see that on your timeline. The council approved extending the contract. That's not on your

1689
02:26:59,880 --> 02:27:07,120
timeline. It was on that meeting in December. I think it was December 12th. No, it was in

1690
02:27:07,120 --> 02:27:14,060
November. It was prior to the close of the solicitation that was out there. You all had

1691
02:27:14,060 --> 02:27:15,920
not evaluated the bids.

1692
02:27:23,420 --> 02:27:28,260
It's on December 12th. There's an email from Mr. Berry to

1693
02:27:28,260 --> 02:27:33,840
Scott Johnson and GFL stating that that would come up for a vote on December 12th about

1694
02:27:33,840 --> 02:27:39,720
extension of what I meant was you came to the council in November you and Mr.

1695
02:27:39,780 --> 02:27:47,640
Gardner you asked that we extend the existing contract with GFL and it was

1696
02:27:47,640 --> 02:27:54,760
prior to you all evaluating the two proposals that you received that is not

1697
02:27:54,760 --> 02:28:00,780
a part of your timeline that you receive approval from the council to

1698
02:28:00,780 --> 02:28:07,140
extend the current contract. That was either at our November council meeting

1699
02:28:07,140 --> 02:28:10,380
or the November work session. This is not a part of your timeline.

1700
02:28:10,760 --> 02:28:16,200
It says December 12th resolution renewing GFL contract was signed by mayor

1701
02:28:16,200 --> 02:28:22,540
Ford. So that was at that December 12th council meeting when it was assigned by

1702
02:28:22,540 --> 02:28:29,880
the mayor but it was approved by the council in November. Okay, nonetheless so

1703
02:28:29,880 --> 02:28:37,280
know that I'm clear because we told the citizens that they would get sanitation services in

1704
02:28:37,280 --> 02:28:47,280
January and we've been prolonging this. So I'm clear we have a timeline now of when this

1705
02:28:47,280 --> 02:28:54,240
rollout will happen. Yes, ma'am. We need to stick with this. There cannot be any more

1706
02:28:54,240 --> 02:29:01,700
pushbacks. No more excuses. Mr. Gardner, in fact, can you please, sir, because I

1707
02:29:01,700 --> 02:29:08,580
It will start June 5th when those residents will start. Yeah, you gave me an

1708
02:29:08,580 --> 02:29:13,040
explanation of all this in November and you said we would start rolling it out

1709
02:29:13,040 --> 02:29:19,220
second quarter of 2023. That didn't happen either. I can't hold you

1710
02:29:19,220 --> 02:29:27,580
accountable for Mr. Gardner I can. The residents here, we cannot keep telling

1711
02:29:27,580 --> 02:29:32,600
them that we're going to do something and not stick with it. If they put pressure

1712
02:29:32,600 --> 02:29:38,160
on me, I'm putting pressure on Mr. Gardner. Do what we say we're going to do.

1713
02:29:38,780 --> 02:29:44,280
That's all. That's all. Don't make me out to be a liar because we just keep

1714
02:29:44,280 --> 02:29:50,780
prolonging this and I don't know any other way to put it. Please let's stick

1715
02:29:50,780 --> 02:29:56,420
with this. If we can't make it happen then we need to move on to another

1716
02:29:56,420 --> 02:29:59,220
supplier. That's all.

1717
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:02,980
Mr. Gardner. Mayor. Thank you, ma'am. Yes, we will. Thank you, sir.

1718
02:30:05,840 --> 02:30:11,040
All right, so she's done. Ms. Gantt, go ahead, please. Thank you.

1719
02:30:13,100 --> 02:30:22,000
If I think I recall this correctly, we were told a while ago that we would have to roll out second quarter.

1720
02:30:22,000 --> 02:30:25,140
or a second quarter starts now, I believe.

1721
02:30:25,420 --> 02:30:27,460
So January, February, March is first quarter.

1722
02:30:28,000 --> 02:30:30,760
Second quarter would be April, May, June.

1723
02:30:31,520 --> 02:30:34,360
But so I wasn't, I just want you to be clear.

1724
02:30:34,420 --> 02:30:36,860
I thank you for providing this to us.

1725
02:30:38,320 --> 02:30:41,900
I didn't think that we were going to have sanitation

1726
02:30:41,900 --> 02:30:45,720
right off because we were notified that we weren't.

1727
02:30:45,820 --> 02:30:48,240
I just wanted to make sure that we communicated that

1728
02:30:48,820 --> 02:30:51,160
to all of the people who were annexed in.

1729
02:30:51,160 --> 02:30:57,380
because I do see a lot of times on social media that there are questions as to

1730
02:30:57,380 --> 02:31:02,600
when are they to receive sanitation so I want to make sure that the city is doing

1731
02:31:02,600 --> 02:31:07,940
everything possible they can and have communicated that to those people who

1732
02:31:07,940 --> 02:31:12,360
have newly been annexed in and didn't and wanted to know though that particular

1733
02:31:12,360 --> 02:31:18,740
ant question but I did not expect for us to roll this out in January I do

1734
02:31:18,740 --> 02:31:22,700
remember you were stating that it was going to take a while just to even get

1735
02:31:22,700 --> 02:31:28,080
some of the receptacles and some of the things that are needed and even if we

1736
02:31:28,080 --> 02:31:35,420
were to go with another agency, another sanitation company, they too would have

1737
02:31:35,420 --> 02:31:39,040
a hard time based off of the amount of supplies and things that were going on

1738
02:31:39,040 --> 02:31:45,180
within the economy in general. Is that not correct? Yes ma'am one of the most

1739
02:31:45,180 --> 02:31:51,720
difficult things has been actually the actual number of residents cause one one

1740
02:31:51,720 --> 02:31:57,500
spreadsheet we got had over to 2400 residents on it then another one had I

1741
02:31:57,500 --> 02:32:02,440
think like 1400 then you had another one that had 1200 so you had to go through

1742
02:32:02,440 --> 02:32:08,180
and verify all of those addresses based on the annexation to ensure that we

1743
02:32:08,180 --> 02:32:12,960
were notifying the right customer like I said this goes on their property tax

1744
02:32:12,960 --> 02:32:20,080
statement. And so we didn't want to be stuck if we had to refund 200 or 300 people that money

1745
02:32:20,080 --> 02:32:26,940
that we collected. So we wanted to make sure what we do was proper. And this process is

1746
02:32:26,940 --> 02:32:31,180
as seamless as possible because guess what? It's going to be some people, we're going

1747
02:32:31,180 --> 02:32:34,120
to have some hiccups when it starts. And it's going to be some people that were

1748
02:32:34,120 --> 02:32:38,680
perfectly fine with the company they had. And now they're having issues. So you're

1749
02:32:38,680 --> 02:32:41,640
going to be getting calls. We're going to be getting calls from, I didn't have

1750
02:32:41,640 --> 02:32:45,680
problem with my old company. Y'all made me change. Now I'm having problems. We're trying

1751
02:32:45,680 --> 02:32:50,680
to make this as seamless as possible and the fact that we spent all of this effort and time

1752
02:32:51,260 --> 02:32:56,060
identifying the potential pitfalls. I mean there's a lot of countless hours that's been

1753
02:32:56,060 --> 02:33:00,540
involved in it. We've got three different ways for people to sign up. They can go online

1754
02:33:00,540 --> 02:33:04,880
and sign up. They can call public works. They can call GFL. That mail went out to

1755
02:33:04,880 --> 02:33:09,960
all of those residents last week and our email and phone have been blowing up

1756
02:33:09,960 --> 02:33:14,640
since Thursday. I was taking calls Friday from people that wanted to sign up for the service.

1757
02:33:14,760 --> 02:33:19,240
So I think we've done a good job, you know, ensuring that this thing is going to be as

1758
02:33:19,240 --> 02:33:24,100
seamless as possible. Like we said in that letter, please give us time. There's going to be some

1759
02:33:24,100 --> 02:33:30,220
hiccups. But I think when people, you go from paying $35 a month to $17, and now you're getting

1760
02:33:30,220 --> 02:33:35,260
bulk waste pick up recycling and yard waste. And when you paying $30 just to get sanitation

1761
02:33:35,260 --> 02:33:39,820
garbage, I think that's a big win for our residents. And I think the majority of them

1762
02:33:39,820 --> 02:33:45,320
have been patient. I have not had but one disgruntled person and that person was upset

1763
02:33:45,320 --> 02:33:49,560
because they have a business in Stop Bridge. They live on Banks Road. They take their trash

1764
02:33:49,560 --> 02:33:53,100
to their business so they don't have to have sanitation at home. But now they're going

1765
02:33:53,100 --> 02:33:58,020
to have to have it. That's the only disgruntled customer or resident that I've taken a call

1766
02:33:58,020 --> 02:34:02,520
from. Most people are happy. They understand the process because it's just like if you

1767
02:34:02,520 --> 02:34:05,980
were a business and you bought another business, there's a transition process

1768
02:34:05,980 --> 02:34:10,700
And you try to ensure that that process goes as smoothly as possible, and that's what we've

1769
02:34:10,700 --> 02:34:10,940
done.

1770
02:34:11,060 --> 02:34:14,520
And I think you're going to be satisfied when it rolls out, because you're not going to

1771
02:34:14,520 --> 02:34:18,520
get all the phone calls if we were to just haphazardly say it comes January and we threw

1772
02:34:18,520 --> 02:34:23,060
out 2,000 cards, but we didn't have a plan in place to make sure that it was successful

1773
02:34:23,060 --> 02:34:24,240
and we've done that.

1774
02:34:24,340 --> 02:34:29,980
Well, I want to thank you and the Department for rolling out this plan in organized fashion.

1775
02:34:30,520 --> 02:34:35,180
I do understand that some of the challenges, we've confirmed with GFL some of the

1776
02:34:35,180 --> 02:34:39,200
challenges that were was to get some of the receptacles as well as any other

1777
02:34:39,200 --> 02:34:44,280
company and sanitation. So I appreciate that. We are on today's the 10th of April

1778
02:34:44,280 --> 02:34:48,860
so we are on the 10th day of our second term and you guys are right on time. And

1779
02:34:48,860 --> 02:34:52,200
so I really appreciate that as well because I thought that it was gonna

1780
02:34:52,200 --> 02:34:57,400
take a year based off of what you said last year. Your estimate was past

1781
02:34:57,400 --> 02:35:02,720
six months, seven months. So here we are. I believe that we're ahead of the

1782
02:35:02,720 --> 02:35:07,460
game with this. And I'm glad we are but I'm also glad that it's done in the manner

1783
02:35:07,460 --> 02:35:13,220
that it is and that you've had an outline here showing us and you know

1784
02:35:13,220 --> 02:35:16,580
hopefully our residents will see this as well. So thank you.

1785
02:35:18,280 --> 02:35:24,980
Okay Ms. Barber go ahead please. So during the town halls that we had for

1786
02:35:24,980 --> 02:35:30,840
annexation Councilwoman Gantt it was said that those new residents would

1787
02:35:30,840 --> 02:35:39,820
begin receiving sanitation services January 1st of 2023. That's what was told to them.

1788
02:35:40,620 --> 02:35:49,860
So that is why I keep asking, please, let's stick with these dates. Now in January, Mr.

1789
02:35:50,700 --> 02:35:57,500
Aaron said that we would begin in second quarter rolling it out. So I just want us

1790
02:35:57,500 --> 02:36:00,620
to stick with what we're saying.

1791
02:36:00,820 --> 02:36:01,180
That's all.

1792
02:36:01,780 --> 02:36:04,640
I don't want us to delay it any further.

1793
02:36:05,180 --> 02:36:05,540
That's all.

1794
02:36:05,680 --> 02:36:06,000
Thank you.

1795
02:36:06,420 --> 02:36:07,420
Any other comments from the council?

1796
02:36:07,640 --> 02:36:08,500
Mr. Blank, go ahead, please.

1797
02:36:09,860 --> 02:36:11,220
You know, usually when I talk,

1798
02:36:11,340 --> 02:36:13,860
I try to know what I'm talking about when I open my mouth.

1799
02:36:14,140 --> 02:36:17,620
So one of the things that concerns me,

1800
02:36:17,660 --> 02:36:19,500
Ms. Erin and I will say this to you,

1801
02:36:19,960 --> 02:36:22,080
with what you're working with right now,

1802
02:36:22,160 --> 02:36:25,860
I think that you guys are diligently doing a good job.

1803
02:36:25,860 --> 02:36:29,600
I mean it's a lot of stuff, a lot of moving parts going on right now.

1804
02:36:30,980 --> 02:36:36,640
However, I just believe that we as a city, as a city as a whole,

1805
02:36:39,280 --> 02:36:41,980
we have to put, we have to have,

1806
02:36:42,440 --> 02:36:50,320
we got to put strong proactive contingency plans in place.

1807
02:36:52,220 --> 02:36:59,120
And I'm not going to go into that, but I just believe that strong proactive plans, and when

1808
02:36:59,120 --> 02:37:05,500
I say contingencies, because none of us knew if the annexation piece was going to come

1809
02:37:05,500 --> 02:37:06,040
in or not.

1810
02:37:07,920 --> 02:37:16,220
But the proactive contingency plan in place, I just believe that would have helped things

1811
02:37:16,220 --> 02:37:16,880
all like that.

1812
02:37:17,040 --> 02:37:17,800
That's all I'm going to say on that.

1813
02:37:18,380 --> 02:37:19,760
All right, here are the comments from the council.

1814
02:37:21,060 --> 02:37:22,580
If not, thank you for the presentation.

1815
02:37:22,720 --> 02:37:23,120
Appreciate it.

1816
02:37:23,200 --> 02:37:24,120
You got a good time of mine.

1817
02:37:24,480 --> 02:37:25,300
I know you're gonna make it work.

1818
02:37:25,420 --> 02:37:26,500
It's gonna work out well successful.

1819
02:37:27,000 --> 02:37:27,100
Thank you.

1820
02:37:27,200 --> 02:37:27,680
Appreciate that.

1821
02:37:27,860 --> 02:37:28,840
Thank you, Mr. Mayor and Council.

1822
02:37:29,000 --> 02:37:29,480
Okay, new business.

1823
02:37:29,680 --> 02:37:30,920
Council consideration approved.

1824
02:37:31,140 --> 02:37:33,020
The revised youth council and youth council

1825
02:37:33,020 --> 02:37:34,780
advisory committee bylaws,

1826
02:37:34,980 --> 02:37:37,260
presented by Dr. Cordean.

1827
02:37:38,600 --> 02:37:39,300
There you go.

1828
02:37:43,180 --> 02:37:44,020
Yes, you did.

1829
02:37:45,260 --> 02:37:46,580
Good evening, Mayor and Council.

1830
02:37:47,040 --> 02:37:47,300
Good evening.

1831
02:37:47,760 --> 02:37:49,320
Thank you all for having me up today.

1832
02:37:51,280 --> 02:37:53,820
True, we're trying to revise what we have,

1833
02:37:54,000 --> 02:37:55,780
the Stockpredict Youth Council Advisory Committee.

1834
02:37:57,020 --> 02:37:59,660
We've revised the Stockpredict Youth Council bylaws

1835
02:37:59,660 --> 02:38:03,980
as well as the Stockpredict Youth Council Advisory Committee

1836
02:38:03,980 --> 02:38:04,580
bylaws.

1837
02:38:04,900 --> 02:38:06,920
Have y'all had the opportunity to look at them all?

1838
02:38:07,720 --> 02:38:08,560
Would y'all want me to go?

1839
02:38:08,560 --> 02:38:09,840
I personally took a look at it, yes.

1840
02:38:10,020 --> 02:38:10,940
Okay, do y'all want me to go?

1841
02:38:10,960 --> 02:38:11,180
I personally did.

1842
02:38:11,500 --> 02:38:12,960
Do y'all want me to go line by line?

1843
02:38:13,260 --> 02:38:15,780
Just the correct, just the revisions that we made.

1844
02:38:15,940 --> 02:38:16,940
That you highlighted already.

1845
02:38:17,200 --> 02:38:17,380
Yes.

1846
02:38:17,600 --> 02:38:18,380
Okay, got it, go ahead.

1847
02:38:18,460 --> 02:38:19,740
Okay, so I'll go with those.

1848
02:38:20,600 --> 02:38:25,540
So, first we're going to go with the stock for youth council bylaws, so if y'all can

1849
02:38:25,540 --> 02:38:28,280
pull that out in front of you all on the very first page.

1850
02:38:29,120 --> 02:38:35,640
The one thing that we wanted to revise, I mean, initially we did not have a GPA attached

1851
02:38:35,640 --> 02:38:43,920
to the bylaws, but we thought it was appropriate to put that, now mind you, our children

1852
02:38:43,920 --> 02:38:47,360
on the Youth Council, they are 3.0 and above,

1853
02:38:47,900 --> 02:38:51,680
but we did not want to eliminate any students

1854
02:38:51,680 --> 02:38:55,840
that felt that they, 2.75 is what we agreed upon.

1855
02:38:56,460 --> 02:38:58,060
We thought that was a good standard.

1856
02:38:58,800 --> 02:39:01,200
That's not to say that we are lessening our standards.

1857
02:39:01,300 --> 02:39:04,160
However, we want to incorporate all the youth

1858
02:39:04,160 --> 02:39:07,340
of Stockbridge and the surrounding areas

1859
02:39:07,340 --> 02:39:09,640
that can be attached to this program

1860
02:39:10,460 --> 02:39:11,940
because we feel that a leader,

1861
02:39:11,940 --> 02:39:14,760
your GPA is not dictated by leadership.

1862
02:39:15,020 --> 02:39:17,340
I should, I say leadership is not dictated by your GPA.

1863
02:39:17,840 --> 02:39:21,740
So we wanted to have an inclusive language for that.

1864
02:39:22,000 --> 02:39:23,840
So that's the reason why we changed that.

1865
02:39:25,600 --> 02:39:31,520
Moving to the page, behind that we wanted to,

1866
02:39:31,600 --> 02:39:35,020
we added council participants agreed to miss no more

1867
02:39:35,020 --> 02:39:37,580
than three monthly meetings per school year.

1868
02:39:38,220 --> 02:39:42,940
Initially, we had, there you go to that one, one second.

1869
02:39:59,750 --> 02:40:01,410
Sorry, I'm trying to find that spot.

1870
02:40:04,340 --> 02:40:06,160
Initially, we had no more than four.

1871
02:40:08,080 --> 02:40:12,520
We changed that because we felt four was a little bit

1872
02:40:12,520 --> 02:40:14,720
too much because the kids,

1873
02:40:15,140 --> 02:40:17,400
throughout the school year, the kids may have,

1874
02:40:17,520 --> 02:40:21,340
I should I say to you, they may have an event,

1875
02:40:21,540 --> 02:40:23,660
maybe they're on football this season

1876
02:40:23,660 --> 02:40:27,880
or maybe they're on basketball the next season, so we understand that they still have lives

1877
02:40:27,880 --> 02:40:32,640
outside of the youth council, so we wanted to limit that so that they wouldn't be penalized.

1878
02:40:32,720 --> 02:40:36,480
I felt that they, you know, was penalized for not coming at that time.

1879
02:40:36,920 --> 02:40:45,540
And also, we changed or re-enhanced the 10-hour minimum for community service because the

1880
02:40:45,540 --> 02:40:48,700
kids are doing that with their eyes closed, so we wanted to give them a little challenge.

1881
02:40:48,700 --> 02:40:55,460
And so we increased that to 20 hours per school term.

1882
02:40:56,300 --> 02:40:58,980
Moving on to the bottom of the page for good standing.

1883
02:40:59,780 --> 02:41:06,780
This is just a recap of the 2.75 GPA, so that still stands.

1884
02:41:07,100 --> 02:41:14,960
And moving on to the page, Article 9, SYC Ambassadors.

1885
02:41:14,960 --> 02:41:27,980
We wanted to mirror the, I'm sorry, we wanted to mirror the, what the standards are for the

1886
02:41:27,980 --> 02:41:33,960
ambassadors with, mirroring what the youth council, should I say with the mayor and youth

1887
02:41:33,960 --> 02:41:39,680
and the council members do up here, because the program does represent the mayor and council

1888
02:41:39,680 --> 02:41:39,900
here.

1889
02:41:39,900 --> 02:41:47,580
So that's why we change the standards for their criterias on the back.

1890
02:41:48,880 --> 02:41:51,060
Are there any questions about the SYC?

1891
02:41:51,560 --> 02:41:52,780
I think it changes fantastically.

1892
02:41:53,080 --> 02:41:53,920
I liked it personally.

1893
02:41:54,320 --> 02:41:54,600
Okay.

1894
02:41:54,980 --> 02:41:55,980
Any other comments from the council?

1895
02:41:56,380 --> 02:41:56,520
Yes.

1896
02:41:56,720 --> 02:41:57,440
Ms. Clark, go right in, please.

1897
02:41:57,720 --> 02:41:58,520
Thank you so much.

1898
02:41:58,660 --> 02:42:05,700
And I appreciate the recognition that we want to include more students as many as

1899
02:42:05,700 --> 02:42:06,280
possible.

1900
02:42:06,280 --> 02:42:16,000
And obviously, we understand that there's more to it than the actual GPA, and I've said from the beginning, we don't want perfect students.

1901
02:42:16,260 --> 02:42:19,680
We want a representation of what we have in the community.

1902
02:42:20,420 --> 02:42:24,980
Exactly. Okay. So would you like me to move on to the advisory committee?

1903
02:42:25,100 --> 02:42:25,800
Yes, please. Go ahead.

1904
02:42:25,980 --> 02:42:26,160
Yes.

1905
02:42:27,200 --> 02:42:40,130
So, the advisory committee was also redone in order to recap the first page under responsibilities

1906
02:42:40,130 --> 02:42:40,970
of committee.

1907
02:42:41,590 --> 02:42:45,110
The Stockwood Youth Council will host at least four events per year.

1908
02:42:45,930 --> 02:42:52,350
This was changed from we'll have to at least be at four events per year.

1909
02:42:52,350 --> 02:42:57,870
And the reason why we change it to that is we wanted them to be at events that we're hosting.

1910
02:42:58,510 --> 02:43:03,770
So we volunteer a lot around the community, but we wanted to be able to have them for

1911
02:43:03,770 --> 02:43:05,630
the events that we're actually hosting.

1912
02:43:06,490 --> 02:43:15,030
Moving to page three, it was erroneously put in the last bylaws, bi-weekly meetings.

1913
02:43:15,470 --> 02:43:19,590
As we know, the Youth Council as well as the Soccer Advisory Council, we meet on

1914
02:43:19,590 --> 02:43:29,430
and monthly basis. Moving to Article 5, attendance policy. We have advisory council members are

1915
02:43:29,430 --> 02:43:38,650
required to attend at least 70% of the SYC AC meetings and 50% of the youth council work

1916
02:43:38,650 --> 02:43:44,110
sessions for planning and 50% of the youth council activities, approved calendar events.

1917
02:43:44,110 --> 02:43:51,050
We put the approved calendar events because we require the advisory to have a more hands-on

1918
02:43:51,050 --> 02:43:51,530
approach.

1919
02:43:52,090 --> 02:43:56,050
We do understand that the advisory committee itself, they have jobs, they have families,

1920
02:43:56,210 --> 02:44:01,810
they have children, and other events to attend, but we feel that if you are a member

1921
02:44:02,250 --> 02:44:08,590
of the advisory committee, you need to be there in order to mentor the youth and the

1922
02:44:08,590 --> 02:44:11,690
only way you can do that is by actually being present.

1923
02:44:11,690 --> 02:44:19,050
So we increase that a little bit so that we make sure that the advisory committee is there to mentor and guide the youth.

1924
02:44:20,710 --> 02:44:30,070
On the fourth page, we change, if you go down to number three from the top, actively engage.

1925
02:44:30,330 --> 02:44:37,990
That also goes hand in hand with why we change the percentage of time that we would, you know, expect the advisory committee to be present

1926
02:44:37,990 --> 02:44:48,070
so that they can, you know, do more mentoring and advice to you, because that is actually our reason for, you know, being sworn in to this position.

1927
02:44:49,270 --> 02:44:59,970
I'm going to the sixth page for the bookkeeper. Initially, we had the bookkeeper would just review all the items that

1928
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:06,560
You know, the money that we spent, this was added to add more transparency. The bookkeeper

1929
02:45:06,560 --> 02:45:12,600
will reconcile purchases made on behalf of the SYC and provide a monthly financial report.

1930
02:45:12,940 --> 02:45:19,180
So that will in turn not only provide more transparency to the board, but also to let us

1931
02:45:19,180 --> 02:45:23,500
know what we've spent and what we have left to spend for either that quarter or the year.

1932
02:45:24,900 --> 02:45:29,360
Moving on to page seven, if you look at close to the bottom of the page,

1933
02:45:29,360 --> 02:45:36,400
page, the middle page, article 11, fiscal year. Any events during the summer months are

1934
02:45:36,400 --> 02:45:42,840
strictly mandatory, but what we did normally, the committee for the youth council as well

1935
02:45:42,840 --> 02:45:50,300
as advisory, the time period is from August to May with July and June being off. Now

1936
02:45:50,300 --> 02:45:54,180
we know that our students are busy throughout the whole school year, so we want them

1937
02:45:54,180 --> 02:45:59,780
the rest for the summer months, which is July, June and July. But for the advisory committee,

1938
02:45:59,940 --> 02:46:04,480
we felt we should hold ourselves to a little higher standard. And okay, we'll take June

1939
02:46:04,480 --> 02:46:10,560
off, but July, we need to come back for planning sessions, meetings, and development programs

1940
02:46:10,560 --> 02:46:15,080
in order to welcome our youth back and be prepared for them when they come back from

1941
02:46:15,080 --> 02:46:22,300
the summer break. And I do believe this is the last mention, which is we changed

1942
02:46:22,300 --> 02:46:27,380
These bylaws may be altered, amended, or appealed and may be adopted by a majority of

1943
02:46:27,380 --> 02:46:30,600
the member of the committee at a regular or special meetings.

1944
02:46:31,220 --> 02:46:36,440
Of the committee, proposed amendments to the bylaws shall be sent and write into all committee

1945
02:46:36,440 --> 02:46:39,600
members at least seven days prior to the meeting.

1946
02:46:40,260 --> 02:46:42,340
Initially that was not in there.

1947
02:46:43,060 --> 02:46:48,600
We think that seven days is appropriate because it's not many pages for the advisory committee

1948
02:46:48,600 --> 02:46:49,240
to review.

1949
02:46:49,240 --> 02:46:53,800
We wanted them to review it bring their suggestions to the next monthly meeting

1950
02:46:53,800 --> 02:46:57,640
And then we discuss it if it's something that we all agree upon

1951
02:46:57,640 --> 02:47:01,600
Then we vote upon it and then we bring it to mayor and council for them to approve

1952
02:47:02,280 --> 02:47:03,220
That's all I have

1953
02:47:03,220 --> 02:47:10,120
Fantastic any questions mayor. Yes, ma'am. Go ahead, please. I move that we approve the bylaws for these council advisor committee

1954
02:47:10,880 --> 02:47:15,120
Mr. Blunt the second that this game made that motion all fair, please indicate

1955
02:47:16,120 --> 02:47:19,020
Snaps decision. Thank you very much appreciate it. Thank you for your time

1956
02:47:19,240 --> 02:47:19,940
All right, fantastic.

1957
02:47:21,700 --> 02:47:24,200
Consecration approved the use of empathy in the green room

1958
02:47:24,200 --> 02:47:27,480
Thursday, May 4, 2023, from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m.

1959
02:47:27,500 --> 02:47:31,180
to host a national small business week reception

1960
02:47:31,180 --> 02:47:32,860
and honor small business owners presented

1961
02:47:32,860 --> 02:47:34,880
by Kimberly Lines, Hollands.

1962
02:47:35,520 --> 02:47:36,760
Good evening, Mayor and Council.

1963
02:47:37,720 --> 02:47:39,340
Kim Owens, Economic Development Director.

1964
02:47:40,220 --> 02:47:42,960
Every year, the small business administration

1965
02:47:42,960 --> 02:47:45,420
recognizes small business owners

1966
02:47:45,960 --> 02:47:47,980
for their contribution to our local economy

1967
02:47:47,980 --> 02:47:52,800
economy, and our national economy. And this year, National Small Business Week will fall

1968
02:47:52,800 --> 02:47:59,760
on from April 30th to May 6th, and your economic development department would like to host an

1969
02:47:59,760 --> 02:48:04,020
event just to thank our business owners. And we're here today to ask for approval

1970
02:48:04,440 --> 02:48:10,940
to use the M.P. Theater Green Room to host that event on Thursday, May 4th, from 6 to

1971
02:48:10,940 --> 02:48:11,720
8 p.m.

1972
02:48:13,320 --> 02:48:13,720
Okay.

1973
02:48:13,720 --> 02:48:15,340
I would like to take any questions.

1974
02:48:15,460 --> 02:48:15,740
Thank you.

1975
02:48:15,920 --> 02:48:16,220
Questions?

1976
02:48:16,880 --> 02:48:17,280
Concerns?

1977
02:48:17,320 --> 02:48:17,500
Mayor?

1978
02:48:17,740 --> 02:48:18,140
Yes, ma'am.

1979
02:48:18,200 --> 02:48:18,560
Go ahead, please.

1980
02:48:18,920 --> 02:48:22,440
I just want to make sure it's going to be large enough for the small businesses.

1981
02:48:22,660 --> 02:48:24,360
You're inviting all the small businesses in the city?

1982
02:48:24,380 --> 02:48:24,500
Yes.

1983
02:48:24,760 --> 02:48:26,260
So we're inviting everyone.

1984
02:48:27,040 --> 02:48:29,980
Unfortunately, we only have space for about 50 people.

1985
02:48:30,400 --> 02:48:37,800
So we're going to send out an event blast and see how many people we get to RSVP

1986
02:48:37,800 --> 02:48:40,880
but we'll have to limit it to 50 people, unfortunately.

1987
02:48:41,320 --> 02:48:43,640
Or you can go upstairs to the catwalk area

1988
02:48:43,640 --> 02:48:45,300
where they do the sponsorship thing

1989
02:48:45,300 --> 02:48:46,700
and have more room to spread out.

1990
02:48:47,340 --> 02:48:49,780
We'll see what the response that we get.

1991
02:48:50,500 --> 02:48:55,060
We're gonna end the RSVP for small businesses,

1992
02:48:55,140 --> 02:48:55,920
is what I'm saying.

1993
02:48:56,420 --> 02:48:57,920
So if it gets larger,

1994
02:48:58,000 --> 02:48:59,360
then you might need a larger venue

1995
02:48:59,360 --> 02:49:00,700
and I'm okay with that.

1996
02:49:00,840 --> 02:49:02,020
I think that's a great idea.

1997
02:49:02,460 --> 02:49:04,620
And I think it's needed.

1998
02:49:05,440 --> 02:49:06,020
It's been needed.

1999
02:49:06,020 --> 02:49:13,660
So, on that note, I vote to approve, I make a motion to approve this National Small Business

2000
02:49:14,380 --> 02:49:21,840
Wheat Reception on May 4, 2023 in the green room, but if a larger venue is needed, I vote

2001
02:49:21,840 --> 02:49:25,160
that we allow it regardless, unless it's already booked.

2002
02:49:25,460 --> 02:49:25,720
Second.

2003
02:49:26,080 --> 02:49:29,620
Okay, Mr. Alexander, second that motion for Ms. Gantt, any further discussion?

2004
02:49:31,040 --> 02:49:31,580
All right.

2005
02:49:31,720 --> 02:49:32,900
All in favor of the motion, please indicate.

2006
02:49:33,680 --> 02:49:34,460
Thank you.

2007
02:49:35,060 --> 02:49:35,680
Thank you very much.

2008
02:49:38,650 --> 02:49:40,470
Approval to apply for a grant.

2009
02:49:41,850 --> 02:49:45,950
Georgia Land and Water Conservation Fund, LWCF,

2010
02:49:46,010 --> 02:49:49,430
presented by Jeremy Goodwin and Kelly Russell.

2011
02:49:52,910 --> 02:49:53,470
Evening.

2012
02:50:03,200 --> 02:50:06,160
Can you speak into the mic or somehow get it closer to you?

2013
02:50:06,900 --> 02:50:08,420
This is a little better, I guess.

2014
02:50:08,920 --> 02:50:09,660
Thank you.

2015
02:50:38,930 --> 02:50:46,150
The other remaining requirement of cash for any kind of cash was that you have to defer

2016
02:50:46,150 --> 02:50:48,450
what we observed in our slots account.

2017
02:50:49,530 --> 02:50:56,710
The grant application period opened April 1st on May 31st and it also requires us to have

2018
02:51:01,470 --> 02:51:05,530
Okay Miss Gantt go ahead please. Mayor I move that we approve this land water

2019
02:51:05,530 --> 02:51:13,070
conservation fund grant application and and it requires a resolution and for

2020
02:51:13,070 --> 02:51:19,790
the and for us also to direct staff to draft up a resolution for this

2021
02:51:19,790 --> 02:51:27,470
approval. I second. Ms. Barbara seconds that any further discussion okay all in favor please indicate

2022
02:51:28,250 --> 02:51:32,050
all right fantastic four four votes good thank you very much appreciate that outstanding

2023
02:51:33,310 --> 02:51:40,550
let's see a council consideration to approve purchase a one-ford ranger 28,565 and one-ford

2024
02:51:40,550 --> 02:51:56,330
Edge SUV for $3580 under state contract 99999-001, SPD 0000183-0006, Funding Source 2023 Capital

2025
02:51:56,330 --> 02:52:00,470
Improvement Budget for Police Services presented by Chief Trammer, please.

2026
02:52:00,470 --> 02:52:00,810
It is.

2027
02:52:02,730 --> 02:52:03,290
Evening, Chief.

2028
02:52:03,450 --> 02:52:03,790
As you've

2029
02:52:53,040 --> 02:52:54,100
done some knowledge and you've

2030
02:53:09,590 --> 02:53:10,850
marked the vehicle with UCB and

2031
02:53:22,690 --> 02:53:23,630
the thing about

2032
02:53:23,630 --> 02:53:24,710
you is I think I can just

2033
02:54:00,580 --> 02:54:01,700
stay contrary to what you're saying.

2034
02:54:04,260 --> 02:54:04,780
Any questions?

2035
02:54:05,020 --> 02:54:05,940
I mean, why don't you answer questions?

2036
02:54:06,640 --> 02:54:08,440
Councilor, any questions from the Chief Trammer?

2037
02:54:09,100 --> 02:54:11,740
Just one question that I always ask, Chief.

2038
02:54:13,000 --> 02:54:13,720
That's right.

2039
02:54:15,140 --> 02:54:16,860
Where are we moving in that direction?

2040
02:54:50,490 --> 02:54:55,810
In the question for the Chief, and if not, I need a motion to go forward with

2041
02:54:55,810 --> 02:54:56,430
this purchase.

2042
02:54:56,790 --> 02:54:57,270
So moved.

2043
02:54:57,270 --> 02:55:01,850
So I'll move from Mr. Alexander, is there a second?

2044
02:55:02,530 --> 02:55:03,390
Mr. Blunt second then.

2045
02:55:03,490 --> 02:55:04,290
All in favor, please indicate.

2046
02:55:05,350 --> 02:55:06,630
I'll see you now as you sit and thank you, Chief,

2047
02:55:06,730 --> 02:55:07,570
appreciate it.

2048
02:55:10,880 --> 02:55:13,180
Councilor, consideration to approve a contract

2049
02:55:13,180 --> 02:55:16,880
for emergency services for building, permitting,

2050
02:55:17,180 --> 02:55:20,100
inspection services, not to exceed six months,

2051
02:55:20,520 --> 02:55:21,520
six month timeframe.

2052
02:55:21,960 --> 02:55:22,680
Ms. Carter, please.

2053
02:55:31,900 --> 02:55:33,700
Yeah, it's somehow, I'm thinking.

2054
02:55:33,980 --> 02:55:35,300
It's off, it's back on.

2055
02:55:35,920 --> 02:55:37,520
Good evening, mayor and council members.

2056
02:55:37,520 --> 02:55:38,560
Thank you so much.

2057
02:55:39,380 --> 02:55:42,220
So I'm going to kind of whip through my presentation.

2058
02:55:42,960 --> 02:55:46,720
This is just a continuation to wrap up the conversation

2059
02:55:46,720 --> 02:55:52,560
around handling the building permitting inspections

2060
02:55:52,560 --> 02:55:56,620
and civil engineering services for the department community

2061
02:55:56,620 --> 02:55:57,160
development.

2062
02:55:57,740 --> 02:56:01,280
And we have a number of things to go through tonight.

2063
02:56:01,920 --> 02:56:05,880
What I'm asking for currently is for a contract

2064
02:56:05,880 --> 02:56:14,360
for to be awarded to Bureau Veritas, North America Incorporated. For a six-month

2065
02:56:14,360 --> 02:56:20,320
period to handle our building inspections plan review for any new projects

2066
02:56:20,320 --> 02:56:26,460
that come into the city for a period of up to six months. This is to allow for

2067
02:56:26,460 --> 02:56:33,340
us to advertise and start interviewing to hire in-house staff. Should

2068
02:56:33,340 --> 02:56:37,140
that be the will of the council but that is my Mr. Gardner's recommendation.

2069
02:56:39,780 --> 02:56:46,840
We look at it as a way to regroup and recoup some losses that we have lost as a result

2070
02:56:46,840 --> 02:56:54,580
of having a consultant paying upwards of 60% per month for split for revenues.

2071
02:56:55,560 --> 02:57:02,980
So the request before you is to allow for the new contract to be awarded and you

2072
02:57:02,980 --> 02:57:06,160
We have the contracts before you and all the information regarding the quote.

2073
02:57:07,200 --> 02:57:11,780
Thank you. Questions? Council? Ms. Blunt, you have something?

2074
02:57:13,280 --> 02:57:16,840
The previous contract for these services, has it expired?

2075
02:57:17,460 --> 02:57:20,480
It will be expiring on April the 21st.

2076
02:57:20,800 --> 02:57:24,600
On April 21st? So if anything approved, the night it would not overlap any?

2077
02:57:24,980 --> 02:57:32,620
It would overlap a few days because I've already worked with our current consulting on the off-boarding and onboarding of the new company.

2078
02:57:32,620 --> 02:57:38,460
so that there can be established what new projects are underway to make sure there's continuity and services.

2079
02:57:40,330 --> 02:57:40,890
Okay.

2080
02:57:42,390 --> 02:57:43,650
Okay, any questions, Council?

2081
02:57:43,970 --> 02:57:44,310
Yes.

2082
02:57:44,570 --> 02:57:45,410
Go right into the center.

2083
02:57:45,750 --> 02:57:52,230
So this new vendor, what was the process behind vetting them, choosing them for this job?

2084
02:57:52,530 --> 02:57:56,470
So this particular company is one of several who submitted quotes.

2085
02:57:57,290 --> 02:57:59,350
They have done work all over the region.

2086
02:58:01,230 --> 02:58:05,150
Villarica, several other cities throughout the Metro Atlanta.

2087
02:58:05,530 --> 02:58:11,170
They have offices nationwide and other continents across the world.

2088
02:58:11,730 --> 02:58:16,930
And I've taken a look at some of the things they've done online, talked to some of the

2089
02:58:16,930 --> 02:58:22,610
jurisdictions and believe they would be a positive fit for us for this stop gap measure

2090
02:58:22,610 --> 02:58:26,690
until we can bring in a in-house crew

2091
02:58:27,270 --> 02:58:30,910
to be able to have some seamless streamlined operations.

2092
02:58:32,090 --> 02:58:34,130
Okay, could we have them come to the podium?

2093
02:58:34,530 --> 02:58:38,250
Sure, I have Chris Honeycutt

2094
02:58:38,250 --> 02:58:41,270
and also Daniel Elliott to come up and speak with you all.

2095
02:58:43,720 --> 02:58:44,780
How are you gentlemen doing?

2096
02:58:45,620 --> 02:58:47,400
Hi doing mayor, how are you doing council?

2097
02:58:47,500 --> 02:58:48,460
I'm Chris Honeycutt,

2098
02:58:48,560 --> 02:58:50,860
I'm the East Area Manager for Bureau Veritas.

2099
02:58:50,860 --> 02:58:58,300
us. As she was saying, we do work for the city of Riverdale. We are the building official

2100
02:58:58,300 --> 02:59:05,520
for the city of Stonecrest as well, along with Barrow County, Oconee County, Watkinsville,

2101
02:59:06,420 --> 02:59:13,840
and numerous amounts in Georgia. We have two divisions in Pennsylvania, three divisions

2102
02:59:13,840 --> 02:59:18,440
in Texas, and we also have three, I believe, in Florida as well.

2103
02:59:19,580 --> 02:59:25,060
We've been consulting for 192 years, I believe it is.

2104
02:59:26,060 --> 02:59:29,080
I think it was 18, was it 18, 20?

2105
02:59:29,660 --> 02:59:30,140
28.

2106
02:59:30,280 --> 02:59:30,660
Yeah, 28.

2107
02:59:31,180 --> 02:59:33,180
So I've been at it for a while.

2108
02:59:34,740 --> 02:59:35,880
Damian, you got anything to say?

2109
02:59:36,080 --> 02:59:36,960
No, I think you can't have it.

2110
02:59:37,000 --> 02:59:38,180
Let me ask you a question.

2111
02:59:38,620 --> 02:59:42,140
So right now, with this economy being what it is,

2112
02:59:42,700 --> 02:59:48,620
what is your staffing situation? How many people do you have? How many people would

2113
02:59:48,620 --> 02:59:55,280
you have to bring on? And are you up or down? So we have roughly 35 to 36 people

2114
02:59:55,280 --> 02:59:59,620
within Georgia. Me as an area manager, I have six up under me.

2115
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:14,960
Along with a permit tech, which I believe that is one of the positions that you are inquiring on, so we would not have to, at this time, bring on anybody for the six-month emergency inquiry here.

2116
03:00:15,400 --> 03:00:27,440
If we move along through that, then we may have to look into bringing a permit tech on, but other than that, building officials and inspectors, we are fully staffed.

2117
03:00:27,440 --> 03:00:32,760
Okay, so you normally have, you said six people up under you, that's what you normally

2118
03:00:32,760 --> 03:00:33,780
have in your area?

2119
03:00:34,200 --> 03:00:34,880
Yes, sir.

2120
03:00:34,920 --> 03:00:36,500
That's what I have in just my area.

2121
03:00:36,780 --> 03:00:36,960
Yes, sir.

2122
03:00:37,080 --> 03:00:37,280
Okay.

2123
03:00:37,440 --> 03:00:40,760
What, how many cities does your area include?

2124
03:00:40,840 --> 03:00:43,640
So we cover 12 jurisdictions right now.

2125
03:00:44,020 --> 03:00:48,180
So you have 12 jurisdictions that your six people cover?

2126
03:00:48,580 --> 03:00:49,160
Yes, sir.

2127
03:00:49,360 --> 03:00:53,680
We provide, we provide multiple services in those areas.

2128
03:00:53,860 --> 03:00:56,280
So some of those jurisdictions are just inspections.

2129
03:00:56,280 --> 03:01:06,400
so that's fairly easy. Like the city of Stockbridge, or excuse me, Stonecrest, we do

2130
03:01:06,400 --> 03:01:12,180
build an official services, so that takes up a lot of my personal time, but a lot of

2131
03:01:12,180 --> 03:01:18,720
those areas are just inspections, so that's fairly easy. Okay, so that's

2132
03:01:18,720 --> 03:01:23,000
the number that you normally have up under you. Is that number the same as

2133
03:01:23,000 --> 03:01:31,560
it was in 2022 or 2023 have you added somebody? Absolutely so in roughly 2022 I had three people

2134
03:01:32,310 --> 03:01:37,680
and then from there we moved to six so I mean we've we've been growing constantly we're we're

2135
03:01:37,680 --> 03:01:43,180
always looking just like everybody else because it is very hard to find qualified individuals in

2136
03:01:43,180 --> 03:01:50,780
our field so we are continuing to looking to grow if that's kind of what you're asking so

2137
03:01:50,780 --> 03:01:54,600
we're always trying to find somebody to bring along one final question talk

2138
03:01:54,600 --> 03:02:01,040
about the experience of the individuals on your team yeah absolutely so we have

2139
03:02:01,040 --> 03:02:05,780
licensed electoral contractors through the state of Georgia we have licensed

2140
03:02:05,780 --> 03:02:10,800
HVAC contractors to the state of Georgia we are all ICC certified in

2141
03:02:10,800 --> 03:02:16,400
residential and commercial we have certified fire marshals we have

2142
03:02:16,400 --> 03:02:21,400
certified planners, certified building officials. We have master code

2143
03:02:21,400 --> 03:02:28,280
professionals. We have almost anything the ICC offers we have and that is what the

2144
03:02:28,280 --> 03:02:32,620
state of Georgia goes through. Okay what am I getting at is that the tenure with

2145
03:02:32,620 --> 03:02:36,800
you so you've added the three people so when did you add the three people and

2146
03:02:36,800 --> 03:02:42,660
the latest three and how long have they been with you? The latest one was

2147
03:02:45,520 --> 03:02:49,880
probably October of last year and that was an early career guy. We got him

2148
03:02:49,880 --> 03:02:55,300
straight out of the Marine Corps so we picked him up and have pretty much pushed

2149
03:02:55,300 --> 03:02:58,880
him through the whole process. He's now fully residential certified. We're now

2150
03:02:58,880 --> 03:03:06,540
working to get him commercial certified but I mean I think early 2022 is

2151
03:03:06,540 --> 03:03:10,980
when the other two came on. We picked both of those up at the same time from

2152
03:03:10,980 --> 03:03:20,360
a jurisdiction. They wanted to leave there. So last to 2022. Okay. All right. Thank you.

2153
03:03:20,500 --> 03:03:26,240
Any other questions? Council at all. All right. Seeing none. So otherwise, we need a motion to

2154
03:03:26,900 --> 03:03:32,640
for the staff to go forward with this new company. May I forward? Yes, sir. So moved. Okay,

2155
03:03:32,740 --> 03:03:37,260
Mr. Thomas. Second. Mr. Gantt, second. All favor, please indicate.

2156
03:03:38,700 --> 03:03:40,860
Thank you very much, gentlemen, I appreciate it.

2157
03:03:40,860 --> 03:03:41,180
Thank you, Mayor.

2158
03:03:41,360 --> 03:03:41,760
Thank you, Council.

2159
03:03:42,220 --> 03:03:42,540
Thank you.

2160
03:03:46,120 --> 03:03:50,400
Council, consideration to approve contract emergency services for civil engineering

2161
03:03:50,400 --> 03:03:53,660
services, not to see a six-month timeframe.

2162
03:03:53,840 --> 03:03:54,480
Ms. Carter, please.

2163
03:03:55,180 --> 03:04:01,260
Yes, so a similar contract, but for civil engineering and plan review and inspections.

2164
03:04:02,820 --> 03:04:08,200
We have been working with a consultant who has actually been one of the subcontractors

2165
03:04:08,200 --> 03:04:15,480
for the current contractor we utilize and has Whitley engineering they familiarize themselves

2166
03:04:15,480 --> 03:04:20,220
with a lot of the projects have been very key and making sure that we stay in line with

2167
03:04:20,220 --> 03:04:28,960
state code as in regards to soil and conservation erosion control measures and we're trying

2168
03:04:28,960 --> 03:04:33,060
to ensure that we keep those folks on staff in order to continue those services.

2169
03:04:33,980 --> 03:04:41,520
The contract before you is to have up to six months for a contract for services for civil

2170
03:04:41,520 --> 03:04:48,000
engineering that handles land disturbance reviews, inspections, meetings.

2171
03:04:49,040 --> 03:04:53,880
We a lot of times have meetings with new business owners, new developers who are bringing

2172
03:04:53,880 --> 03:04:55,960
a new project, but they need guidance.

2173
03:04:56,260 --> 03:05:02,120
They want to put a face to the name so that they know who to contact for land development

2174
03:05:02,120 --> 03:05:08,500
concerns or questions and what have you. So the request before you is to approve a

2175
03:05:08,500 --> 03:05:13,840
similar contract for Whitley Engineering Incorporated for emergency services up to six months.

2176
03:05:15,460 --> 03:05:18,120
Okay, questions for Ms. Carter, Councilor?

2177
03:05:19,140 --> 03:05:19,420
Mayor?

2178
03:05:19,740 --> 03:05:20,140
Yes, ma'am?

2179
03:05:20,540 --> 03:05:21,660
I move that we approve.

2180
03:05:22,540 --> 03:05:23,320
No, I have a question.

2181
03:05:23,320 --> 03:05:23,880
Oh, I got a question.

2182
03:05:24,180 --> 03:05:24,440
Never mind.

2183
03:05:24,600 --> 03:05:25,260
Go right ahead, sir.

2184
03:05:27,280 --> 03:05:32,920
I hate to sound ring. Is this the name of the company in there that you hire? I don't

2185
03:05:32,920 --> 03:05:35,700
Yes. It's Whitley Engineering Incorporated.

2186
03:05:37,140 --> 03:05:38,240
Is this in your packet?

2187
03:05:38,600 --> 03:05:40,520
It wasn't on the face.

2188
03:05:41,340 --> 03:05:45,460
You say that this company is out of what company?

2189
03:05:45,780 --> 03:05:53,220
So Whitley Engineering is the subcontractor under our current larger contractor for building services currently.

2190
03:05:53,600 --> 03:06:02,460
I do have Mark Whitley here who can speak a little bit about what he's done and the experience he has and what he's brought to the city.

2191
03:06:04,400 --> 03:06:07,520
When you said a larger company, which company were you talking about?

2192
03:06:07,600 --> 03:06:09,460
Safefield. We currently contract with Safefields.

2193
03:06:13,390 --> 03:06:18,390
Wait a minute. So they would Safefield? I'm sorry, Mayor.

2194
03:06:18,850 --> 03:06:19,470
Yes, ma'am, I'm sorry.

2195
03:06:19,890 --> 03:06:22,450
So the company, this company would Safefield?

2196
03:06:22,890 --> 03:06:31,050
They are a subcontractor. So they work separately but within under the same umbrella of building services.

2197
03:06:31,050 --> 03:06:37,910
The way the contract was written originally, probably early 2021 before I came on, it was

2198
03:06:37,910 --> 03:06:43,450
to have building permitting inspections and also a civil engineering firm as well.

2199
03:06:44,050 --> 03:06:48,090
SafeBuild was not able to provide that as they had no one in house, so they did provide

2200
03:06:48,090 --> 03:06:50,870
a subcontractor to handle all of those services.

2201
03:06:51,750 --> 03:06:59,590
Yeah, but my concern with that for me is that that's common practice for these

2202
03:06:59,590 --> 03:07:05,170
company to have subcontractors that they use that are under their umbrella, but how do you

2203
03:07:05,170 --> 03:07:11,470
protect the city from any double-dipping or saying, hey, what's up, you out to the city?

2204
03:07:12,210 --> 03:07:18,510
I mean, it's, I don't want to get too deep in that, it's just interesting when we get

2205
03:07:18,510 --> 03:07:27,470
companies that are subcontracted under contracts that we already have in place, it's kind

2206
03:07:27,470 --> 03:07:34,830
interested in me. Mayor. Go ahead please. So who do we have a contract with?

2207
03:07:35,030 --> 03:07:39,850
SafeBuild or with Willie Engineering? We currently have a contract with SafeBuild.

2208
03:07:40,070 --> 03:07:44,070
SafeBuild's contract and all subcontractors is ending April the

2209
03:07:44,070 --> 03:07:49,950
21st. Okay. And the subcontractor is Whitley Engineering who handles all the

2210
03:07:49,950 --> 03:07:54,250
civil engineering piece of all inspections, pre-construction meetings,

2211
03:07:54,250 --> 03:07:59,730
planning reviews that are pivotal in making sure we bring a development on

2212
03:07:59,730 --> 03:08:03,810
correctly according to state requirements. So would we be directly

2213
03:08:03,810 --> 03:08:08,090
contracting with them now? We no longer contracting with Safeville. That is correct.

2214
03:08:08,490 --> 03:08:14,770
Okay, but they have been doing our inspections already. Yes. For erosion

2215
03:08:14,770 --> 03:08:21,070
only for erosion control. So our this contractor ahead of us handles only the

2216
03:08:21,070 --> 03:08:24,790
construction only the portion of the property that is land development as

2217
03:08:24,790 --> 03:08:30,930
prepping the land for any building to be built. SafeBuild currently handles all

2218
03:08:31,890 --> 03:08:36,690
the building inspections all that when any piece of any property goes up any

2219
03:08:36,690 --> 03:08:40,570
buildings go up bricks what have you that's what SafeBuild typically does.

2220
03:08:41,170 --> 03:08:49,570
And now Bureau Veritas will handle that in the interim. Okay. Any questions? So

2221
03:08:49,570 --> 03:08:55,830
So again, what was the process behind selecting this particular vendor to perform this service?

2222
03:08:56,410 --> 03:09:04,250
Well when I set out to working with the finance department to get quotes at all, a lot of them

2223
03:09:04,250 --> 03:09:08,010
just did not have staff available for this particular use.

2224
03:09:08,110 --> 03:09:13,110
They would also have to sum out to someone else and I said, well, you know, we currently

2225
03:09:13,110 --> 03:09:19,090
have services that are working very well for us and we're staying in lock step

2226
03:09:19,090 --> 03:09:25,130
with the state process. Let's work with who has been doing a great job at it and continue that

2227
03:09:25,130 --> 03:09:27,990
so they can continue to move forward and provide that service for us.

2228
03:09:33,260 --> 03:09:34,880
Any other questions for Ms.

2229
03:09:34,980 --> 03:09:43,260
Carter on this? All right then I need a motion to for the motion to accept this new contractor.

2230
03:09:43,600 --> 03:09:48,420
May I forward? Yes sir. So moved. Okay. I second. Okay from Mr. Thomas to Ms.

2231
03:09:48,420 --> 03:09:52,280
All in favor please indicate the answer is thank you very much.

2232
03:09:54,010 --> 03:09:54,850
Thank you.

2233
03:09:55,070 --> 03:09:55,470
All right.

2234
03:09:55,910 --> 03:10:00,730
Council consideration adopt new job description for cheap building off the official full time

2235
03:10:00,730 --> 03:10:01,130
position.

2236
03:10:01,710 --> 03:10:02,730
Ms. Carter, please.

2237
03:10:03,630 --> 03:10:04,050
Okay.

2238
03:10:05,450 --> 03:10:12,170
So as part of this process, we just, you all, thank you for approving the two contracts.

2239
03:10:12,170 --> 03:10:20,710
The objective of that is to allow for us to hire, qualify folks to be able to fill the positions,

2240
03:10:21,530 --> 03:10:28,450
three full-time positions, chief building official, which is the first item we have,

2241
03:10:28,830 --> 03:10:35,190
which would be the manager of the permitting inspections and permit process.

2242
03:10:35,990 --> 03:10:40,570
And we also have a building inspector that would be managed by the chief building official

2243
03:10:40,570 --> 03:10:45,050
and the building permit technician that will be handled under the building official.

2244
03:10:45,970 --> 03:10:51,790
The building official primarily manages the permit processing and reviews and inspections.

2245
03:10:52,890 --> 03:10:55,370
And I'm recommending this new position.

2246
03:10:56,010 --> 03:11:00,590
The job description is as a result of, I want to say about two to three years ago,

2247
03:11:00,710 --> 03:11:07,670
maybe 2019, it was a desire of this council to understand a little bit more about bringing

2248
03:11:07,670 --> 03:11:14,270
this division in-house and it allows for continuity, a little more

2249
03:11:14,270 --> 03:11:19,290
efficiency and expediency in our processes. It allows us to be more

2250
03:11:19,290 --> 03:11:23,550
accurate with reviews and we can say hey everybody let's get in the room and

2251
03:11:23,550 --> 03:11:28,290
let's review this plan and we can move things forward. So that is what I'm

2252
03:11:28,290 --> 03:11:33,150
asking kind of one by one this is for the chief building official position.

2253
03:11:37,250 --> 03:11:37,470
You

2254
03:11:37,470 --> 03:11:42,170
I will pull up the organization chart.

2255
03:11:42,730 --> 03:11:43,130
That's

2256
03:11:52,890 --> 03:11:53,270
already up.

2257
03:11:54,770 --> 03:11:55,950
I'm not sure if you can make that up.

2258
03:11:55,990 --> 03:11:58,750
I'm gonna zoom into community development

2259
03:12:00,390 --> 03:12:04,810
because this updated org chart, if approved,

2260
03:12:05,790 --> 03:12:09,030
would be incorporated with this proposed change.

2261
03:12:10,450 --> 03:12:13,450
So the items in yellow would be new positions.

2262
03:12:13,910 --> 03:12:16,310
The items in white are current positions.

2263
03:12:17,230 --> 03:12:18,330
Ms. Gangoy, please.

2264
03:12:18,550 --> 03:12:20,010
Has this been budgeted for already?

2265
03:12:20,550 --> 03:12:20,870
It has.

2266
03:12:21,030 --> 03:12:26,330
It actually, if we're able to bring on these folks full time

2267
03:12:27,010 --> 03:12:30,570
by July 1, we should work within our current budget.

2268
03:12:30,750 --> 03:12:33,150
And I would not need to come back to amend

2269
03:12:33,150 --> 03:12:35,670
or to get any additional funds.

2270
03:12:36,690 --> 03:12:38,750
It's just a matter if it does go past that.

2271
03:12:38,830 --> 03:12:39,990
We go the six months.

2272
03:12:40,330 --> 03:12:42,570
It does depend on what we're putting out

2273
03:12:42,570 --> 03:12:46,410
for the consultants that we may need just a little bit

2274
03:12:46,410 --> 03:12:51,290
more additional funding that it will be nominal will our budget increase as of

2275
03:12:51,290 --> 03:12:55,530
January 1 because we'll be there'll be full-time and working the whole year it

2276
03:12:55,530 --> 03:13:01,870
will not because even bringing on these four individuals it still costs us less

2277
03:13:01,870 --> 03:13:06,350
than we've been paying over the years for a consultant okay we've been paying

2278
03:13:06,350 --> 03:13:12,770
60% we're only paying 50% for the emergency services and we'll be paying

2279
03:13:12,770 --> 03:13:16,550
and even less than that for bringing folks on board.

2280
03:13:17,270 --> 03:13:20,230
Our out-of-pocket expense would be likely two trucks,

2281
03:13:20,530 --> 03:13:21,270
two to three trucks.

2282
03:13:22,290 --> 03:13:24,690
When you said we were paying 60%, you mean the split?

2283
03:13:24,990 --> 03:13:25,690
Yes, the revenue spread.

2284
03:13:25,690 --> 03:13:27,010
The underpriced was 60, 40.

2285
03:13:27,310 --> 03:13:27,610
Correct.

2286
03:13:27,690 --> 03:13:31,610
And then 70, 30 in some instances, was it?

2287
03:13:32,550 --> 03:13:33,930
I wish it could be 70, 30,

2288
03:13:34,010 --> 03:13:36,110
but 60, 40 has been what it's been.

2289
03:13:36,230 --> 03:13:37,930
We got, I got it down to about 55%.

2290
03:13:38,510 --> 03:13:41,830
And now the, even the emergency services is at 50%.

2291
03:13:44,910 --> 03:13:48,710
I'm just going to say listen, I don't know if we're ready for this.

2292
03:13:48,830 --> 03:13:53,170
I think it's going to be a good idea, but are we ready to do this as a city?

2293
03:13:53,650 --> 03:13:54,870
We've had several issues.

2294
03:13:55,510 --> 03:14:03,050
We had some ongoing issues and I'm not exactly sure we're ready to do it ourselves within

2295
03:14:03,050 --> 03:14:09,730
the next six months, maybe at some point we might be ready to do that with some

2296
03:14:09,730 --> 03:14:15,830
of the challenge that we've actually had so you know that's my opinion I say

2297
03:14:15,830 --> 03:14:20,250
we should go forward and go ahead that's my thing I think I would like to do

2298
03:14:20,250 --> 03:14:26,030
that but I'd like to be a real sure that we're gonna do the job okay yes sir

2299
03:14:26,030 --> 03:14:33,010
go ahead please I'm in agreement with mr. Alexander we still have issues that

2300
03:14:33,010 --> 03:14:38,190
haven't had oversight we still have issues that haven't been resolved even

2301
03:14:38,190 --> 03:14:39,030
as of today.

2302
03:14:42,410 --> 03:14:44,950
When we contract,

2303
03:14:51,280 --> 03:14:58,000
because you don't want a quick fix for a long term issue,

2304
03:14:58,000 --> 03:14:59,640
a long-term process.

2305
03:15:00,850 --> 03:15:19,940
And when we've done that, the city has gotten the short end of the stick. And I'm not going to go into details about that because it's not the place for it. But I have a problem with some things. That's all.

2306
03:15:19,940 --> 03:15:21,880
All right, now, Mr. Thomas, go ahead, please, sir.

2307
03:15:22,640 --> 03:15:24,720
Thank you, and thank you, Mrs. Carter.

2308
03:15:29,100 --> 03:15:33,860
We have had the conversation over the last few years

2309
03:15:33,860 --> 03:15:35,380
about bringing this in-house.

2310
03:15:35,760 --> 03:15:40,460
And I think the research proved then.

2311
03:15:41,260 --> 03:15:44,800
And I asked you here recently about the same research.

2312
03:15:45,120 --> 03:15:47,220
And you went back and reviewed that.

2313
03:15:47,220 --> 03:15:53,940
And one thing that was true then, and I think it's true now, when you bring staff in-house

2314
03:15:54,400 --> 03:16:04,940
and it showed too that there were a surplus in that, but what you get is the training and

2315
03:16:04,940 --> 03:16:10,320
the accountability of staff when you bring folks in.

2316
03:16:10,320 --> 03:16:17,320
And I think that is what I see and that is what I'm looking forward to be able to

2317
03:16:17,320 --> 03:16:24,820
bring staff in, train them, and hold them accountable to the job. So that's why I'm

2318
03:16:24,820 --> 03:16:31,880
in favor. And I was in favor then. The research proved that to be a fact. And so

2319
03:16:32,840 --> 03:16:39,380
without any other questions, Mayor and Council, I move to approve.

2320
03:16:39,380 --> 03:16:41,240
Yeah, I do have one more.

2321
03:16:42,160 --> 03:16:43,260
Stand by one second.

2322
03:16:43,780 --> 03:16:45,100
Motion made to move to approve.

2323
03:16:45,180 --> 03:16:45,580
Is there a second?

2324
03:16:46,280 --> 03:16:47,220
Ms. Barbara, second that?

2325
03:16:47,340 --> 03:16:49,920
I second, but I have a comment, please, sir.

2326
03:16:51,500 --> 03:16:52,100
All right.

2327
03:16:52,520 --> 03:16:52,800
Okay.

2328
03:16:52,880 --> 03:16:54,740
I was going to go back to Mr. Blunt here, but go ahead.

2329
03:16:55,580 --> 03:16:56,200
I'm sorry.

2330
03:16:56,600 --> 03:16:57,400
Go ahead, Councilor Blunt.

2331
03:16:57,460 --> 03:16:58,220
Go ahead, Ms. Blunt.

2332
03:16:58,960 --> 03:16:59,680
All right.

2333
03:17:01,320 --> 03:17:06,580
For me, when we look at approving these positions,

2334
03:17:06,580 --> 03:17:15,940
When we look at moving around, when we're filling positions that there were reluctance

2335
03:17:15,940 --> 03:17:22,040
in or whatever, and there's a position that we're filling, I think there's some things

2336
03:17:22,040 --> 03:17:23,660
that we're discussing now.

2337
03:17:24,680 --> 03:17:33,000
We should have had more discussion behind closed door because this does become a hiring

2338
03:17:33,000 --> 03:17:38,880
position and it does become open for the discussion. I don't want to sit here and I would never

2339
03:17:39,380 --> 03:17:49,440
sit here and belittle any staff, at least try not to anyway, but I have concerns when

2340
03:17:49,440 --> 03:17:59,940
we're adding positions to field positions that was so long deficient. My greatest

2341
03:17:59,940 --> 03:18:07,900
This concern has always been in this city is being proactive and oversight, accountability,

2342
03:18:09,020 --> 03:18:14,960
transparency, all of those things make the city successful in every department, even among

2343
03:18:14,960 --> 03:18:15,980
us as council members.

2344
03:18:16,880 --> 03:18:24,460
So for me to put these positions on right now, I think for me I would need further

2345
03:18:24,460 --> 03:18:27,940
discussions on these positions and stuff behind closed doors.

2346
03:18:33,160 --> 03:18:40,080
I was just going to make mention that this is for emergency services and because this

2347
03:18:40,080 --> 03:18:41,800
is an emergency situation.

2348
03:18:43,700 --> 03:18:49,900
The six month contracts that we have with the consulting services, not consulting but

2349
03:18:49,900 --> 03:18:59,040
service contracts that we have with this company, this company, I'm sorry, I would

2350
03:18:59,040 --> 03:19:02,800
I'd like to see us do a one-year contract with the both of them.

2351
03:19:02,960 --> 03:19:04,420
I don't know if they are interested in that.

2352
03:19:04,960 --> 03:19:13,300
And after six months, then we can evaluate whether or not we're ready to kind of bring this in house.

2353
03:19:14,420 --> 03:19:18,000
I just want us to be ready.

2354
03:19:19,720 --> 03:19:23,540
We've had some issues over the past three years since I've been here.

2355
03:19:24,620 --> 03:19:27,440
A lot of it has been internal issues.

2356
03:19:28,900 --> 03:19:30,780
So I just want to make sure that we're ready.

2357
03:19:31,540 --> 03:19:34,140
I know we've already approved the six month contracts.

2358
03:19:35,260 --> 03:19:42,820
I am in support of what you recommend with bringing these positions in-house here.

2359
03:19:43,080 --> 03:19:44,260
I just want to make sure that we're ready.

2360
03:19:48,080 --> 03:19:55,160
What I'm saying is to Councilwoman Barber's point which is that we would bring this back

2361
03:19:55,820 --> 03:20:02,700
in six months to see what we look like from our standpoint because we got people on our

2362
03:20:02,700 --> 03:20:07,100
side of this pendulum too and then a contractor got people on their side.

2363
03:20:07,100 --> 03:20:13,980
So, after six months, we would come back, we would reevaluate our readiness to move forward.

2364
03:20:14,620 --> 03:20:19,500
And then after that fan point, we could extend for another six months if we needed to, or

2365
03:20:19,500 --> 03:20:22,220
we could move forward with it at that point.

2366
03:20:22,480 --> 03:20:29,380
Because right now, I think we just hired somebody on our side of the equation.

2367
03:20:29,980 --> 03:20:34,660
And those people are getting up to where they need to be.

2368
03:20:35,880 --> 03:20:39,920
All right, if you know how to comment, the motion was made in a second, so all in favor

2369
03:20:39,920 --> 03:20:51,960
of the motion, please indicate one, two, all polls, okay, okay, two, two, you voting for

2370
03:20:51,960 --> 03:20:52,200
them?

2371
03:20:52,300 --> 03:20:52,600
What do you say?

2372
03:20:53,660 --> 03:20:55,180
I'm sorry, I'm looking at this.

2373
03:20:55,380 --> 03:20:58,580
If you were voting about the chief building official.

2374
03:20:59,040 --> 03:20:59,600
I'm in opposition.

2375
03:20:59,960 --> 03:21:00,680
You're in opposition.

2376
03:21:01,080 --> 03:21:02,020
What's again, all in favor?

2377
03:21:02,340 --> 03:21:02,800
Let's do this again.

2378
03:21:02,860 --> 03:21:03,380
Make sure we got it right.

2379
03:21:03,380 --> 03:21:04,340
All in favor of the motion.

2380
03:21:05,740 --> 03:21:07,480
Two, all polls.

2381
03:21:08,560 --> 03:21:09,920
Three, so the motion fails.

2382
03:21:10,620 --> 03:21:11,260
Two, three, OK.

2383
03:21:11,720 --> 03:21:15,740
Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to, for the rest of the table,

2384
03:21:16,380 --> 03:21:19,240
the next items coming up and just

2385
03:21:19,240 --> 03:21:22,720
repeat what we just did, which was bring them, which

2386
03:21:22,720 --> 03:21:24,880
was deny them and then bring them back.

2387
03:21:25,280 --> 03:21:27,940
So you're referring to the building inspector permit

2388
03:21:27,940 --> 03:21:31,220
technician and the civil engineer, which

2389
03:21:31,220 --> 03:21:32,820
is a part-time position, it says here.

2390
03:21:32,820 --> 03:21:37,220
that you're referring to. Yes I mean there's no need and at this point I don't

2391
03:21:37,220 --> 03:21:40,780
think we've already made a decision on the one really they could have been

2392
03:21:40,780 --> 03:21:44,780
brought forward as a package but that's kind of where we are now. Councilman

2393
03:21:44,780 --> 03:21:52,340
Alexander may report if I may. I do understand the concern. Is it possible

2394
03:21:52,340 --> 03:21:58,220
that you would consider approving the positions with no dollars attached to

2395
03:21:58,220 --> 03:22:03,780
them that way if within the six-month period we come back and determine we do

2396
03:22:03,780 --> 03:22:07,620
want to move forward with bringing it in house we don't have to wait another month

2397
03:22:07,620 --> 03:22:13,660
or so just to get the job on the agenda and posted that will take us additional

2398
03:22:13,660 --> 03:22:17,940
time to do interviewing and all of that is it possible that you all will be

2399
03:22:17,940 --> 03:22:22,880
amenable to that I'm personally found recommendation and I don't know what

2400
03:22:22,880 --> 03:22:24,060
The rest of the council is thinking here.

2401
03:22:24,120 --> 03:22:25,080
Yeah, I'm fine with that.

2402
03:22:25,760 --> 03:22:27,260
But he's been going mad for motion.

2403
03:22:27,340 --> 03:22:27,380
Yes.

2404
03:22:27,780 --> 03:22:28,640
One second.

2405
03:22:28,800 --> 03:22:29,000
Hold on.

2406
03:22:29,120 --> 03:22:30,320
I just wanted to come back.

2407
03:22:31,080 --> 03:22:32,120
Ms. Barbers, fine with that?

2408
03:22:32,360 --> 03:22:35,140
I am fine with your recommendation, Ms. Carter.

2409
03:22:35,380 --> 03:22:35,640
OK.

2410
03:22:35,760 --> 03:22:36,300
Ms. Dallas-Enter?

2411
03:22:36,620 --> 03:22:37,240
No, I'm not.

2412
03:22:37,260 --> 03:22:37,740
No, he's not.

2413
03:22:38,260 --> 03:22:38,500
Again?

2414
03:22:38,680 --> 03:22:40,540
I have a question about it.

2415
03:22:40,820 --> 03:22:47,040
You're asking that we approve the job descriptions so that the positions are available, but

2416
03:22:47,040 --> 03:22:49,520
we've already approved these positions already, correct?

2417
03:22:50,000 --> 03:22:50,140
No.

2418
03:22:50,360 --> 03:22:52,200
The positions are brand new.

2419
03:22:52,200 --> 03:22:54,800
So we would have to just approve the job description.

2420
03:22:55,520 --> 03:23:01,060
If there are no dollars tied to it at this time, then we wouldn't put it out for hiring.

2421
03:23:03,140 --> 03:23:09,720
I don't want to do that. And we have a budget, we have budget meetings or whatever the case may be.

2422
03:23:10,420 --> 03:23:18,040
I don't think I want to do that prematurely because even if we are taking out the dollar amount,

2423
03:23:18,040 --> 03:23:24,780
when we are ready to advertise or put those positions out there we're gonna

2424
03:23:24,780 --> 03:23:28,380
have to do all this anyway right we're gonna have to present you got to

2425
03:23:28,380 --> 03:23:34,560
present these descriptions chart in dollar amount pay scale anyway correct

2426
03:23:34,560 --> 03:23:38,720
like when we get ready to put it out there well typically if there are

2427
03:23:38,720 --> 03:23:44,280
positions that are held and I'll defer to the city manager on positions that

2428
03:23:44,280 --> 03:23:49,780
But even though they are on the books, there may be no money tied to them and they're frozen

2429
03:23:49,780 --> 03:23:56,580
until a particular time where they'll be unfrozen and then we can utilize them and connect dollars

2430
03:23:56,580 --> 03:23:56,960
to them.

2431
03:23:58,560 --> 03:23:59,080
Okay.

2432
03:23:59,780 --> 03:24:00,300
Mr. Blunt.

2433
03:24:01,700 --> 03:24:07,460
For me, I'm with Mr. Alexander that we take with these three because for me, we just

2434
03:24:07,460 --> 03:24:12,320
had a retreat and we're talking about changing the aura chart that's going to affect the

2435
03:24:12,320 --> 03:24:18,620
budget. There's going to move people around. There's going to have oversight that I oversight

2436
03:24:18,620 --> 03:24:24,040
in different positions. I think further discussion need to be had with this because bringing

2437
03:24:24,040 --> 03:24:29,620
this forth now without, first of all, without any funding numbers. And if we do this before

2438
03:24:29,620 --> 03:24:34,380
then, then we won't have to do this now. I think that it convolues the whole situation

2439
03:24:34,380 --> 03:24:38,940
and we find ourselves in such a conundrum that we can't get back out of because we

2440
03:24:38,940 --> 03:24:45,400
We made a decision today to move forward with the basically saying, hey, something that's

2441
03:24:45,400 --> 03:24:50,900
going to happen beyond now, and if, if, if, if I think we need to table this and we need

2442
03:24:50,900 --> 03:24:55,100
to have further discussions about that, maybe some of that discussion need to be had behind

2443
03:24:55,100 --> 03:24:56,080
closed doors also.

2444
03:24:57,620 --> 03:24:58,260
All right.

2445
03:24:58,640 --> 03:24:59,980
So, yeah, go ahead, Mr. President.

2446
03:25:00,060 --> 03:25:01,280
Mayor Ford and Council.

2447
03:25:01,280 --> 03:25:11,820
Also, positions can be approved, as long as they are not field, there is no money attached.

2448
03:25:12,560 --> 03:25:15,160
But positions can be approved.

2449
03:25:16,000 --> 03:25:16,460
Thank you.

2450
03:25:16,920 --> 03:25:17,240
All right.

2451
03:25:18,100 --> 03:25:18,800
All right.

2452
03:25:19,080 --> 03:25:19,980
So we've got a couple of things.

2453
03:25:20,340 --> 03:25:25,160
We've approved the positions, which is a recommendation, a potential recommendation from Ms. Carter.

2454
03:25:25,320 --> 03:25:29,680
Or you can lump them all together and table all the items.

2455
03:25:29,680 --> 03:25:35,120
I would might want to double check with the attorney make sure we can all lump them together in one motion to do all that though

2456
03:25:35,120 --> 03:25:38,680
Even though there aren't as individuals, so I need for you to weigh in on that sir

2457
03:25:43,620 --> 03:25:48,410
Okay, okay. Thank you, sir. Mr. Blunt go ahead

2458
03:25:51,590 --> 03:25:56,210
We have a lot of power to do something up here we because

2459
03:25:56,970 --> 03:26:03,230
We can do we have the right to do something and always doesn't always make it the right thing to do for me

2460
03:26:03,230 --> 03:26:09,790
I mean the right thing for me to do is to discuss this further because once we approve positions,

2461
03:26:10,530 --> 03:26:14,610
we put a lot of this in staff's hand that we shouldn't even be dealing with as elected

2462
03:26:14,610 --> 03:26:17,930
officials anyway when it comes to how much this person is going to make.

2463
03:26:18,190 --> 03:26:18,650
This and that.

2464
03:26:18,870 --> 03:26:21,710
There's a lot going in the staff hand after we approve this.

2465
03:26:22,210 --> 03:26:27,210
I got problems approving this and this is where I come in, this one individual.

2466
03:26:27,770 --> 03:26:31,590
This is why I agree with Ms. Alexander, we need to table this and have further discussions

2467
03:26:31,590 --> 03:26:37,010
on it and have a plan in place and what this what kind of hit this gonna do to

2468
03:26:37,010 --> 03:26:42,650
the to our budget and what what's gonna be needed too many ins and outs for me

2469
03:26:42,650 --> 03:26:46,830
right now all right all right council then that's the case I need a motion to

2470
03:26:46,830 --> 03:26:52,910
reflect your desires here what's the motion ma'am I'm Michelle Zana I think

2471
03:26:52,910 --> 03:26:57,470
you have or Michelle Zana someone in motion please yes sir I want to make

2472
03:26:57,470 --> 03:27:02,530
motion in accordance with what the city attorney had recommended, which is

2473
03:27:02,530 --> 03:27:08,150
tabling all three of this, in reference to the index numbers that are attached

2474
03:27:08,150 --> 03:27:15,190
to the next three. 14, 15, and 16. Okay. Is there a second that motion? Second.

2475
03:27:15,530 --> 03:27:23,770
Mr. Blunt, second that all in favor please indicate. Yes ma'am. Yes ma'am. Does that not include item number 13? It's also a motion to a job-to-job

2476
03:27:26,530 --> 03:27:37,910
We already made a decision on 13 though, we already made a decision on 13, I thought the motion failed to adopt it, but is that not being tabled as well? That is the question.

2477
03:27:38,770 --> 03:27:41,690
If we did not vote, I'll add number 13 to it.

2478
03:27:41,970 --> 03:27:43,510
Well, we made it, we made it.

2479
03:27:43,690 --> 03:27:44,510
I thought we did.

2480
03:27:44,810 --> 03:27:47,130
We already made a motion on that or approved and made a motion.

2481
03:27:47,670 --> 03:27:52,530
13 is only a job description. It's not it's it's if you never approved a position

2482
03:27:52,530 --> 03:27:55,490
You just got a job description in place the job job

2483
03:27:58,920 --> 03:27:59,360
Yeah

2484
03:28:00,860 --> 03:28:05,940
Yeah, well if that's the case, so we did not I thought we did I will add 13 to that

2485
03:28:05,940 --> 03:28:10,920
Okay, wait a minute. We got we have there's an action. We have to take we just cannot make another motion on this

2486
03:28:11,520 --> 03:28:13,380
Is 13 a new position?

2487
03:28:15,690 --> 03:28:19,070
It is 13 14 15 and 16. They're all new positions

2488
03:28:21,170 --> 03:28:26,370
Okay, so the motion was made by originally who myself I'm 13

2489
03:28:27,530 --> 03:28:30,330
You made the motion on 13 and it's okay

2490
03:28:30,330 --> 03:28:36,990
So otherwise if you made a motion 13 mr. Attorney if he wants to retract that I guess I guess we can we can do it that way

2491
03:28:38,490 --> 03:28:43,250
Well, you wanted to you wanted to amend I guess change the motion or meant it to add

2492
03:28:43,770 --> 03:28:47,590
13 to number 14 15 16 we are revoked on 13 previously.

2493
03:28:51,930 --> 03:28:53,090
Oh, that's right. That's

2494
03:28:53,090 --> 03:28:55,650
right. That's right there and I need to talk to the clerk. That's right. It did

2495
03:28:55,650 --> 03:28:59,470
fail. I'm sorry. No one that's why she asked that question. Oh, it did fail. Okay.

2496
03:28:59,650 --> 03:29:05,050
So otherwise, we can automatically just add that to the other the other motion

2497
03:29:05,050 --> 03:29:09,390
with the other three items. Okay. Go ahead, please. I'm sorry. Yes, I amended

2498
03:29:09,390 --> 03:29:15,850
it to add 13. Okay. Is that who second that motion? Okay. Mr. Blunt. Okay.

2499
03:29:15,850 --> 03:29:20,890
So, otherwise, the motion, as I imagine you have this, Ms. Clerk?

2500
03:29:21,790 --> 03:29:22,110
Okay.

2501
03:29:22,550 --> 03:29:26,830
So, all in favor of motion to table 13, 14, 15, and 16.

2502
03:29:27,470 --> 03:29:29,590
I need a motion.

2503
03:29:29,810 --> 03:29:30,770
The motion is made.

2504
03:29:31,250 --> 03:29:31,470
The second.

2505
03:29:31,570 --> 03:29:32,190
All in favor, please?

2506
03:29:32,630 --> 03:29:32,790
Okay.

2507
03:29:33,530 --> 03:29:34,870
I had a question, sir.

2508
03:29:35,050 --> 03:29:35,350
I'm sorry.

2509
03:29:35,750 --> 03:29:36,270
Okay.

2510
03:29:36,530 --> 03:29:39,130
We're tabling it until when?

2511
03:29:39,990 --> 03:29:41,250
When is this coming back?

2512
03:29:42,570 --> 03:29:43,870
We tabled this.

2513
03:29:43,870 --> 03:29:51,610
we have a temporary contract for the six-month period that we have. We will reevaluate out

2514
03:29:51,610 --> 03:29:56,190
the six months to determine whether we're ready to move on.

2515
03:29:56,190 --> 03:29:57,770
That's with the contractors.

2516
03:29:58,970 --> 03:29:59,550
But you're.

2517
03:29:59,830 --> 03:29:59,890
Thank you.

2518
03:30:00,020 --> 03:30:05,040
The purpose of this motion is for the new job descriptions.

2519
03:30:05,180 --> 03:30:06,160
Right, the same thing.

2520
03:30:06,160 --> 03:30:08,020
We're tabling this indefinitely.

2521
03:30:08,980 --> 03:30:12,200
So it will run concurrent with that.

2522
03:30:12,320 --> 03:30:15,220
It will be six, as I said when I made the first one,

2523
03:30:15,280 --> 03:30:17,720
is that we will come back to this in six months

2524
03:30:17,720 --> 03:30:21,900
and we will evaluate whether we are ready or not

2525
03:30:21,900 --> 03:30:24,020
at the six month period.

2526
03:30:24,220 --> 03:30:27,980
When it's time to, well, we need to renew for another six months

2527
03:30:27,980 --> 03:30:30,260
or we need to move into another direction.

2528
03:30:35,320 --> 03:30:43,760
Okay, so then after the six months, we'll be able to determine whether or not we are

2529
03:30:43,760 --> 03:30:49,840
happy with the services or quality of services that we're getting from these two contractors.

2530
03:30:50,260 --> 03:30:54,580
But it still doesn't address the fact that she needs new job descriptions.

2531
03:30:55,420 --> 03:31:00,420
Those new job descriptions will need to be posted and advertised.

2532
03:31:01,520 --> 03:31:08,500
after then. So why would you wait six months for the contracts to expire?

2533
03:31:08,500 --> 03:31:14,620
We can bring it back at any time we want to. Staff can put it on the agenda.

2534
03:31:15,160 --> 03:31:24,040
We can put it on the agenda. I put the six months in because it runs concurrent with our agreement where we will always have protection at that point.

2535
03:31:24,300 --> 03:31:28,300
But the council can bring it back or the staff can bring it back at any time they want.

2536
03:31:28,300 --> 03:31:45,440
Can you say bring the job description back in three months. I've said the statement that I'm I've made the motion already. I'll abstain. Okay. Well, first of all, before you did it, man, one measure forecast is proper before we take another vote on this. So what do you have madam clerk.

2537
03:31:45,440 --> 03:31:54,060
Well, I'm having the motion to table item number 13, 14, 15, and 16 for six months to

2538
03:31:54,060 --> 03:31:58,380
be evaluated and brought back to the council at that time.

2539
03:31:58,980 --> 03:32:00,480
Mr. Alexander, is that correct?

2540
03:32:00,900 --> 03:32:01,200
That's correct.

2541
03:32:01,340 --> 03:32:01,540
Okay.

2542
03:32:01,860 --> 03:32:06,900
On that note, ladies and gentlemen, council, I need all in favor of the motion, please

2543
03:32:06,900 --> 03:32:14,060
indicate all polls, okay, polls, okay, so three, one, and you sustain, right?

2544
03:32:14,060 --> 03:32:22,180
So 3-1-1, motion passed. 3-1-1. And, okay. Ms. Carter, thank you very much.

2545
03:32:22,300 --> 03:32:27,400
Thank you. All right. What I have here, council consideration to fill a vacancy and appoint a

2546
03:32:27,400 --> 03:32:30,300
member of the downtown development authority presented by Mr. Washington.

2547
03:32:33,890 --> 03:32:34,790
Now, once again,

2548
03:32:35,010 --> 03:32:39,850
this is typically we do these, we've done these in the past in the executive session and come

2549
03:32:39,850 --> 03:32:43,790
back out of executive session for this, but I think there's only one person that is on this

2550
03:32:43,790 --> 03:32:47,610
particular list. And I

2551
03:32:50,260 --> 03:32:51,580
have to admit, I don't even know this

2552
03:32:51,580 --> 03:32:51,900
gentleman.

2553
03:33:18,300 --> 03:33:18,640
Yes, sir.

2554
03:33:20,560 --> 03:33:25,380
That person is Mr. Antonio Gordon, who's had a business of

2555
03:33:25,380 --> 03:33:26,940
barbershop owner here in Stockway, Georgia.

2556
03:33:30,660 --> 03:33:33,280
Alright, I believe this is to be on the Ethics Committee, I

2557
03:33:33,280 --> 03:33:37,960
believe it is. Board of Ethics. That's what it says

2558
03:33:37,960 --> 03:33:38,420
here, right?

2559
03:33:39,960 --> 03:33:46,440
The downtown development authority downtown. Okay for downtown. Okay. Where on application

2560
03:33:46,440 --> 03:33:48,940
system different. Okay.

2561
03:33:54,190 --> 03:33:58,530
Yes, sir. Yes, ma'am. I'm sorry. That is on there, but it's also

2562
03:33:58,530 --> 03:34:05,150
included. Okay. The final position for the board of ethics has to be appointed by the

2563
03:34:05,150 --> 03:34:11,030
mayor. That is not been selected, but the applicant did make the request to be considered

2564
03:34:12,010 --> 03:34:18,410
for any other board that had an opening and that is why he has been admitted to the council for this position.

2565
03:34:19,250 --> 03:34:21,550
And of course his business is right in the downtown area.

2566
03:34:22,190 --> 03:34:24,430
Yeah, if I'm paying three, he's willing to work any of available.

2567
03:34:26,590 --> 03:34:27,690
Okay, all right.

2568
03:34:28,930 --> 03:34:30,350
All right, council soul.

2569
03:34:30,930 --> 03:34:31,710
Anything else to answer?

2570
03:34:32,270 --> 03:34:32,410
No.

2571
03:34:32,590 --> 03:34:33,250
Okay, I'm sorry.

2572
03:34:34,030 --> 03:34:34,430
Questions?

2573
03:34:35,510 --> 03:34:35,890
Mayor.

2574
03:34:36,190 --> 03:34:36,810
Yes, ma'am.

2575
03:34:38,210 --> 03:34:40,570
Go ahead, Councilman. You're on the Board of DEA.

2576
03:34:40,750 --> 03:34:55,470
I just wanted to answer a question. I just didn't know that. I'm sorry. I wasn't aware that this was coming up tonight. Was there some discussion already with the applicant or just the qualifications have already been verified?

2577
03:34:57,030 --> 03:35:02,530
The application was submitted to the Mayor and Council, the DDA Chair as well.

2578
03:35:04,110 --> 03:35:07,650
Okay, so the DDA chair has already reviewed it.

2579
03:35:07,870 --> 03:35:10,050
It was submitted to the DDA chair.

2580
03:35:10,510 --> 03:35:10,750
Okay.

2581
03:35:13,010 --> 03:35:15,750
Did you want to double check with him or?

2582
03:35:17,170 --> 03:35:18,370
Yeah, let's do that.

2583
03:35:18,610 --> 03:35:22,390
Let me follow up with the DDA chair

2584
03:35:22,390 --> 03:35:24,290
because we know what he's been going through

2585
03:35:24,290 --> 03:35:26,310
and we need to see whether or not

2586
03:35:26,310 --> 03:35:29,310
he's had time to chime in on the application.

2587
03:35:29,310 --> 03:35:32,050
I thought your suggestion is to table it with this eraser.

2588
03:35:33,090 --> 03:35:34,970
Well, if that's what you'd like to do,

2589
03:35:35,170 --> 03:35:36,130
then make a motion.

2590
03:35:36,310 --> 03:35:36,570
Yes, sir.

2591
03:35:36,830 --> 03:35:39,210
Sir, I'd like to make a motion to table this appointment

2592
03:35:39,210 --> 03:35:42,090
to consult with the DDA board and chair.

2593
03:35:42,450 --> 03:35:43,250
Is there a second to that motion?

2594
03:35:45,190 --> 03:35:46,670
Is there a second to the motion?

2595
03:35:47,790 --> 03:35:48,350
I second.

2596
03:35:48,610 --> 03:35:49,850
OK, Ms. Gantz seconds the motion.

2597
03:35:50,510 --> 03:35:52,190
You have some apprehension there, Ms. Gantz.

2598
03:35:53,350 --> 03:35:56,330
This goes to show that even if we only have one applicant,

2599
03:35:56,530 --> 03:35:58,130
we still need executive sessions.

2600
03:35:58,130 --> 03:36:04,290
I don't I don't like the way this way. Okay. Well, what about he's gonna talk further with it with the GDH here

2601
03:36:04,290 --> 03:36:11,050
So it and we'll go from there all in favor of the motion. Please indicate all in favor seen this decision. Okay. Thank you very much

2602
03:36:11,050 --> 03:36:12,430
Okay, what's next?

2603
03:36:13,790 --> 03:36:18,950
Mr. Quinton mr. Washington is stop bridge am a theater alcohol policy, sir

2604
03:36:20,370 --> 03:36:21,010
The ordinance

2605
03:36:28,250 --> 03:36:29,490
This was the

2606
03:36:31,230 --> 03:36:37,070
The ordinance that you are requested, the only change that we would have on there is to match

2607
03:36:37,070 --> 03:36:40,190
up to what is on the website about the seven quarts.

2608
03:36:40,450 --> 03:36:43,750
That's not eight by eight, that's 12 by 12 coolers.

2609
03:36:45,490 --> 03:36:50,470
And so we talked with Chief Chairman about it, it's the 12 by 12 cooler to be able to bring

2610
03:36:50,470 --> 03:36:54,810
in alcohol and we just asked for that to be an amendment that you all would adopt

2611
03:36:54,810 --> 03:36:55,730
for the ordinance.

2612
03:36:55,730 --> 03:36:56,710
and

2613
03:36:59,170 --> 03:37:04,070
this is all outlined in number D right and

2614
03:37:06,340 --> 03:37:09,920
this is to allow alcohol outside

2615
03:37:09,920 --> 03:37:17,180
alcohol for our concerts was this provided to us before today I didn't get

2616
03:37:17,180 --> 03:37:18,600
this until today

2617
03:37:20,910 --> 03:37:26,170
mr. Washington okay was this just provided to us at the start of

2618
03:37:26,170 --> 03:37:30,490
the meeting yes it was okay I'll be upstanding again okay well

2619
03:37:32,700 --> 03:37:33,880
this is what

2620
03:37:33,880 --> 03:37:38,560
she wants to sustain but let me mention this to the council now just is so you

2621
03:37:38,560 --> 03:37:42,080
have food for thought I suppose I have to admit I'm not in favor of this ordinance

2622
03:37:42,080 --> 03:37:48,080
and since it is an ordinance I do have by the charter I do have the power to

2623
03:37:48,080 --> 03:37:55,880
undermarriage power to veto and so I will tell you that if by chance this

2624
03:37:55,880 --> 03:38:01,440
ordinance passes with a minimum of three votes I will veto the bill I will

2625
03:38:01,440 --> 03:38:06,100
veto it all right so in the course if I do that then it takes forward to overturn

2626
03:38:06,100 --> 03:38:09,560
my veto that's the checks and balances so I just want you to know that at this

2627
03:38:09,560 --> 03:38:14,320
point that that is that's my thoughts and that's my that'll be my action so it's

2628
03:38:14,320 --> 03:38:17,780
up to the council how you want to proceed and then and then how you ever you

2629
03:38:17,780 --> 03:38:24,720
proceed may may may cause me to do something yes sir I guess my only

2630
03:38:24,720 --> 03:38:33,420
concern is what we have advertised on the website and the premise that concept

2631
03:38:33,420 --> 03:38:43,180
goals help purchase tickets that that's my only concern about any changes to the

2632
03:38:43,180 --> 03:38:50,880
premise that people have purchased our tickets and I think we just need to be

2633
03:38:50,880 --> 03:38:55,620
a little caution on that, and that's my only concern.

2634
03:38:56,080 --> 03:38:56,860
Okay, Mayor.

2635
03:38:57,180 --> 03:38:57,900
Yes, sir, go ahead, please.

2636
03:38:58,480 --> 03:39:01,300
I concur with that, and I think we went back and forth

2637
03:39:01,300 --> 03:39:02,720
about this for a little while.

2638
03:39:04,600 --> 03:39:08,640
Last year, all we kept telling everybody,

2639
03:39:08,800 --> 03:39:12,120
even when they couldn't even bring a bottle of water in,

2640
03:39:12,980 --> 03:39:16,660
I saw many council members, several council members

2641
03:39:16,660 --> 03:39:19,860
among myself, being very apologetic

2642
03:39:19,860 --> 03:39:23,860
about the way the amphitheater was being ran last year, just to be honest.

2643
03:39:25,040 --> 03:39:31,560
And everything that we told them that was going to happen this year, and I grew Mr. Thomas,

2644
03:39:33,300 --> 03:39:41,240
because if I buy a ticket expecting to go into a suite and I get there and it's a one

2645
03:39:41,240 --> 03:39:44,860
bedroom with no bed, that ain't what I purchased.

2646
03:39:44,860 --> 03:39:49,500
purchase, people purchase an experience at the amphitheater that we said we was going to

2647
03:39:49,500 --> 03:39:55,640
do and now at the ninth hour to say, well, if they don't want it, we're going to, this

2648
03:39:55,640 --> 03:40:00,960
amphitheater is continually trying to find its way and try to find identity. And I was

2649
03:40:00,960 --> 03:40:05,420
hoping that this year would be one that we find identity. And through this year, if

2650
03:40:05,420 --> 03:40:11,800
it doesn't, something doesn't work, now we see. Now we actually see because of things

2651
03:40:11,800 --> 03:40:17,880
that are put in place right now but I'm for it because of what we've put out and

2652
03:40:17,880 --> 03:40:24,580
what we've said and we have a concert next week next week and the talk has

2653
03:40:24,580 --> 03:40:29,820
been the city of Stockbridge is not like it was used to heard it's not gonna be

2654
03:40:29,820 --> 03:40:34,440
like it was last year I just want to put that okay and let me just say I

2655
03:40:34,440 --> 03:40:37,660
think procedurally and I talked with the chief and Mr. Young who's over the

2656
03:40:37,660 --> 03:40:42,740
amphitheater. If you were to use your veto on this one, my understanding is that it would

2657
03:40:42,740 --> 03:40:48,280
take effect for the second concert, is that correct? And not this one. So the second concert

2658
03:40:48,280 --> 03:40:50,400
and I was going forward from there unless it was overturned.

2659
03:40:50,580 --> 03:40:59,860
Okay. I understand. Thank you. Wait a minute. I'm sorry. But because this concert, the

2660
03:40:59,860 --> 03:41:04,580
concert tickets have been sold and advertised. I'm talking with Chief Trammer and with

2661
03:41:04,580 --> 03:41:10,660
Mr. Young, and if you want them to explain it here, that if he were to veto it, the veto

2662
03:41:10,660 --> 03:41:13,440
would take effect after this concert.

2663
03:41:13,680 --> 03:41:15,180
What if he vetoed it tomorrow?

2664
03:41:15,740 --> 03:41:20,400
So, I mean, that, am I wrong?

2665
03:41:21,060 --> 03:41:22,800
So when,

2666
03:41:27,020 --> 03:41:32,100
right, but there's already been a contract created between the people.

2667
03:41:34,640 --> 03:41:37,600
If you all wanted to, he would still have the veto,

2668
03:41:41,880 --> 03:41:44,980
but they would not be able to get

2669
03:41:44,980 --> 03:41:50,480
the information out to the individuals that would be trying to bring alcohol in at enough

2670
03:41:50,480 --> 03:41:51,440
time for this concert.

2671
03:41:52,160 --> 03:41:56,800
They were thinking that on the administrative side that they would be able to make it in

2672
03:41:56,800 --> 03:42:00,360
effect for the second concert as opposed to this first one that's coming up.

2673
03:42:00,360 --> 03:42:04,620
in a second concert this year happens to be Mother's Day weekend with Maxwell on

2674
03:42:04,620 --> 03:42:08,700
13th and 14th of May. So that's roughly a month, the 30 days difference in

2675
03:42:08,700 --> 03:42:17,080
time. Yes sir. I still have the same issue and I don't know who bought

2676
03:42:17,080 --> 03:42:23,300
tickets or when. I know that the Maxwell tickets went on sale one particular

2677
03:42:23,300 --> 03:42:27,940
of Friday and people came and rushed in and purchased their tickets.

2678
03:42:28,640 --> 03:42:35,980
So I just still have the same concern that, you know, concertgoers have purchased tickets

2679
03:42:36,620 --> 03:42:39,440
under the premise that we have stated on the website.

2680
03:42:39,840 --> 03:42:46,540
And I just only concern if we had sort of decided during the off-season coming into

2681
03:42:46,540 --> 03:42:50,180
January that we were going to take a position, I'd have been fine with that.

2682
03:42:50,180 --> 03:42:56,620
but for us to flip flop and to appear disorganized that's just that's just the

2683
03:42:56,620 --> 03:43:03,920
problem that I have with all of that. In the beginning no one authorized this to

2684
03:43:03,920 --> 03:43:10,820
be put on the website so let's go back to there okay the change was made but I'm

2685
03:43:10,820 --> 03:43:16,140
not sure how the change was approved we talked about it we had a vote there

2686
03:43:16,140 --> 03:43:23,000
was a three to two, I think a three vote decision that was made on the item. I think we talked

2687
03:43:23,000 --> 03:43:28,420
about general liability and some other items that were concerned with that. So my position

2688
03:43:28,420 --> 03:43:34,180
is I'm, I certainly, I think based on what you discussed, I'm certainly not for it.

2689
03:43:34,980 --> 03:43:36,300
Mayor Ford. Yes, sir.

2690
03:43:36,300 --> 03:43:46,980
If I'm not mistaken, the consultant met with all of the council members through Zoom.

2691
03:43:48,120 --> 03:43:57,620
I recall the conversation, and I don't know what his contract called for in this particular

2692
03:43:59,200 --> 03:43:59,900
I don't know if it was a vote

2693
03:43:59,900 --> 03:44:02,660
or not, but I do recall the

2694
03:44:02,660 --> 03:44:05,160
conversation during the Zoom

2695
03:44:05,160 --> 03:44:07,780
call, I can't speak to what that

2696
03:44:07,780 --> 03:44:09,740
vote was or even if it was a

2697
03:44:09,740 --> 03:44:11,620
vote, maybe Mr. John could

2698
03:44:11,620 --> 03:44:15,160
respond to that, but again, it's

2699
03:44:15,160 --> 03:44:16,280
on the website, that's the

2700
03:44:16,280 --> 03:44:17,640
bottom line, it's on the

2701
03:44:17,640 --> 03:44:19,600
website and people have

2702
03:44:19,600 --> 03:44:21,640
purchased the tickets under

2703
03:44:21,640 --> 03:44:23,800
that premise, regardless how

2704
03:44:23,800 --> 03:44:25,240
it happened, it's there.

2705
03:44:25,760 --> 03:44:33,340
Mayor. Yes, sir. Someone spoke, I mean, the attorney spoke for Chief Trammer. I didn't,

2706
03:44:34,400 --> 03:44:39,160
I don't know if he wants to get fooled in this or not, but at the same time, did you,

2707
03:44:39,480 --> 03:44:43,080
were those your thoughts that were conveyed here at the podium?

2708
03:44:56,010 --> 03:44:58,670
I would I would defer to

2709
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:17,640
Legal and to Mr. Young with the management company. My position is, is we're here to enforce whatever guidelines are put in place for the amphitheater, whether that's you decide to admit it or you decide not. And that's our position.

2710
03:45:17,640 --> 03:45:18,560
Thank you.

2711
03:45:19,400 --> 03:45:19,840
Okay.

2712
03:45:19,860 --> 03:45:28,020
I tell you what, we have the ordinance here and so what a mouth to, I need a motion to

2713
03:45:28,020 --> 03:45:32,420
whether or not we're going to accept this, this ordinance change dealing with the alcohol

2714
03:45:32,420 --> 03:45:34,480
being brought into Tampa Theater or not.

2715
03:45:35,560 --> 03:45:36,260
Is there a motion?

2716
03:45:37,060 --> 03:45:37,100
Excuse me.

2717
03:45:37,100 --> 03:45:38,540
We don't want to hear from Mr. Young.

2718
03:45:39,360 --> 03:45:39,840
Okay.

2719
03:45:40,080 --> 03:45:40,620
I'm sorry.

2720
03:45:41,100 --> 03:45:41,280
Excuse me.

2721
03:45:41,340 --> 03:45:41,780
Mr. Young?

2722
03:45:42,760 --> 03:45:43,840
Come to the podium, sir.

2723
03:45:43,960 --> 03:45:44,120
Is it necessary?

2724
03:45:44,640 --> 03:45:45,100
I don't need it.

2725
03:45:45,240 --> 03:45:45,580
Okay.

2726
03:45:45,580 --> 03:45:47,140
I don't need to talk to Ms. Yellen.

2727
03:45:48,160 --> 03:45:48,920
Come on, Ms. Yellen.

2728
03:45:48,940 --> 03:45:50,720
If you have something you want to add to this, please.

2729
03:45:55,580 --> 03:45:55,960
Good evening.

2730
03:45:56,480 --> 03:45:56,780
Good evening.

2731
03:45:57,820 --> 03:45:58,540
Happy you're here.

2732
03:45:59,060 --> 03:46:00,240
I'm happy to be here, sir.

2733
03:46:00,380 --> 03:46:00,960
You're right in the fire.

2734
03:46:01,360 --> 03:46:01,840
Yes, sir.

2735
03:46:02,660 --> 03:46:04,660
So, as a consultant, sir, what are your thoughts, sir?

2736
03:46:05,240 --> 03:46:12,120
Back in January when we had the Zoom call, I spoke to every council at 3-2 calls

2737
03:46:12,120 --> 03:46:19,720
and it was stated that we will allow alcohols we brought in this year.

2738
03:46:21,800 --> 03:46:22,280
That's

2739
03:46:22,280 --> 03:46:27,140
why it's on the website. All everything that came out of that meeting is on the

2740
03:46:27,140 --> 03:46:33,220
website. That's what's been stated. So that's how it came up, Mr. Alexander.

2741
03:46:34,120 --> 03:46:37,640
So you said it's been stated. Who stated it that it was approved?

2742
03:46:38,380 --> 03:46:41,620
I can't remember exactly. With three, two I had at different times.

2743
03:46:41,620 --> 03:46:47,260
We're talking about in January, but we met this section and that section, so if we didn't

2744
03:46:47,260 --> 03:46:54,660
do it, so whoever, whatever the three said at that time when I brought it up, I discussed

2745
03:46:54,660 --> 03:46:55,480
it on both calls.

2746
03:46:55,740 --> 03:46:59,920
Okay, so what you're saying is there was no vote, that was just correct.

2747
03:47:00,500 --> 03:47:02,020
Did I have to have an official vote?

2748
03:47:02,180 --> 03:47:04,260
I'm just saying, I'm just saying, stating the fact.

2749
03:47:04,260 --> 03:47:05,500
I did not have a vote, I don't...

2750
03:47:05,500 --> 03:47:06,000
Correct, okay.

2751
03:47:06,320 --> 03:47:07,440
I know what you said.

2752
03:47:07,620 --> 03:47:07,920
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2753
03:47:07,920 --> 03:47:09,500
If you got a consensus, there wasn't a vote.

2754
03:47:09,660 --> 03:47:10,260
Right, yes, sir.

2755
03:47:10,260 --> 03:47:14,400
Thank you. Just the facts. No problem. No problem. Yes, sir. Anything else?

2756
03:47:15,220 --> 03:47:16,540
All right, so on that note

2757
03:47:17,060 --> 03:47:22,080
Ordinance has been brought forward by the mr. Washington. It's a Harold young to spoke

2758
03:47:22,080 --> 03:47:25,400
So so I need a motion to accept this particular

2759
03:47:25,400 --> 03:47:29,460
Ordinance change involving bringing in alcohol to an amphitheater for this season

2760
03:47:30,320 --> 03:47:35,060
There is there a substance of this motion mayor. Yes, ma'am

2761
03:47:35,060 --> 03:47:39,500
Go ahead. Well, I wanted to just want to make a comment before we even take a vote

2762
03:47:40,320 --> 03:47:47,400
Concert tickets have been sold not just for this first show, but throughout that's correct at the purchase of a concert ticket

2763
03:47:48,140 --> 03:47:50,060
at that time a contract

2764
03:47:51,580 --> 03:47:57,280
Per each individual person who has purchased a ticket has been made mm-hmm

2765
03:47:57,280 --> 03:48:05,640
They exchange money for their ticket mm-hmm as well as for all the amenities and everything else that's included in their disclosure

2766
03:48:08,760 --> 03:48:16,040
And that's what I'm saying we we have to be you know careful with that and I think that

2767
03:48:17,260 --> 03:48:22,700
Whether we you know, I don't know what tickets are open right now

2768
03:48:22,700 --> 03:48:28,440
We put a halt or whatever the case may be for the next show until we get all this ironed out

2769
03:48:28,440 --> 03:48:31,700
However, we want to do it not halt the show but you know, however we want to do it

2770
03:48:31,700 --> 03:48:35,420
But for now at least through Maxwell from what I'm hearing and

2771
03:48:35,420 --> 03:48:38,300
and maybe even Monica, or I don't know, from others.

2772
03:48:39,680 --> 03:48:48,100
We've already established some rules here, and we had a vote, I believe, we had a vote

2773
03:48:49,720 --> 03:48:51,640
already during the retreat.

2774
03:48:52,260 --> 03:48:59,220
And if we did not, if we did not, I believe we had a official vote during the retreat,

2775
03:48:59,860 --> 03:49:01,980
which is an open meeting, a public meeting.

2776
03:49:03,740 --> 03:49:12,920
So, at that point in time, and I honestly believe that we need to follow process and procedures

2777
03:49:12,920 --> 03:49:22,580
that we have in place for now and maybe work on this halfway through from those shows that

2778
03:49:22,580 --> 03:49:24,260
have not been announced or in sales.

2779
03:49:24,480 --> 03:49:26,840
I think we can kind of do something at that point.

2780
03:49:28,080 --> 03:49:28,760
That's it.

2781
03:49:29,400 --> 03:49:30,580
I still need a motion.

2782
03:49:31,040 --> 03:49:34,460
We're going to accept this ordinance change or not.

2783
03:49:35,640 --> 03:49:36,480
Yes, sir.

2784
03:49:37,120 --> 03:49:39,500
I'd like to make that motion, but I want to make sure.

2785
03:49:39,900 --> 03:49:43,440
Well, not necessarily to make the motion, but when the motion is made,

2786
03:49:43,660 --> 03:49:47,540
I want to decide that the cooler to be included in the motion.

2787
03:49:48,000 --> 03:49:50,140
And that that is 12 inches by 12 inches.

2788
03:49:50,340 --> 03:49:50,800
Is that what it is?

2789
03:49:51,060 --> 03:49:51,520
All right.

2790
03:49:51,620 --> 03:49:52,360
So then fine.

2791
03:49:52,560 --> 03:49:53,100
Eight inch.

2792
03:49:53,300 --> 03:49:53,720
No, no, no.

2793
03:49:53,960 --> 03:49:55,280
He wants to change it to 12 inches.

2794
03:49:56,200 --> 03:49:57,680
Oh, that's what he's asking for.

2795
03:50:05,080 --> 03:50:10,640
All right, I mean whoever makes the motion can add that in there for the vote.

2796
03:50:12,000 --> 03:50:12,980
He's making it.

2797
03:50:12,980 --> 03:50:13,500
Is there a motion?

2798
03:50:16,500 --> 03:50:17,100
Go ahead.

2799
03:50:17,360 --> 03:50:18,260
I second it.

2800
03:50:18,680 --> 03:50:23,740
So I would like to make a motion that any alcohol beverages brought, well make a motion

2801
03:50:23,740 --> 03:50:27,500
that we approve the ordinance provided for an exception to the restriction of the

2802
03:50:27,500 --> 03:50:33,300
possession of consumption of alcohol beverages at Cybridge Amphitheater and for the purposes

2803
03:50:33,300 --> 03:50:42,760
is listed to include a 12 with the amendment on D page 2. Any alcohol brought into the amphitheater

2804
03:50:42,760 --> 03:50:47,800
must be in a cooler, not larger than 12 by 12, only one cooler per patron allowed.

2805
03:50:48,480 --> 03:50:55,700
A second. Okay. Okay, Mr. Thomas, second that motion. All in favor of the motion,

2806
03:50:55,700 --> 03:51:05,620
please indicate all posts of staying okay it's 311 and as I 311 and as I

2807
03:51:05,620 --> 03:51:09,560
mentioned before I will veto this ordinance so I need to go through the

2808
03:51:09,560 --> 03:51:14,280
process of official veto I will veto it I wasn't playing with that so I'll

2809
03:51:14,280 --> 03:51:18,780
veto it and then of course the council can overwrite once I officially do that

2810
03:51:18,780 --> 03:51:21,820
with the proper paperwork and the council go over write a veto with four

2811
03:51:21,820 --> 03:51:27,600
affirmative votes now so on that note we'll start the veto process or

2812
03:51:27,600 --> 03:51:31,000
documentation effectively tomorrow I'll be in tomorrow to take care of that

2813
03:51:31,000 --> 03:51:32,940
unless you got some other guidance for me Mr.

2814
03:51:47,340 --> 03:51:49,000
on that note we'll move on to

2815
03:51:49,000 --> 03:51:52,940
announcements and upcoming events council meetings would be held city council

2816
03:51:52,940 --> 03:51:55,780
chambers noting some board and committee meetings will continue to take

2817
03:51:55,780 --> 03:52:00,920
place by the way of zoom okay so we go to cities website city of star bridge

2818
03:52:00,920 --> 03:52:08,580
for meeting invitation link Facebook page or contact City Hall offices at 770-389-7900.

2819
03:52:09,280 --> 03:52:13,960
Citywide Development Authority meeting, 2nd Tuesday of each month, 6 p.m. City Hall leave

2820
03:52:13,960 --> 03:52:19,980
our meeting room which will be 8.11. The Main Street Advisory Board meeting, 2nd Friday

2821
03:52:19,980 --> 03:52:26,160
of each month at 9 a.m. Welcome Center, 130 ML King Senior Heritage Trail, April 14.

2822
03:52:26,160 --> 03:52:32,580
Downtown Development Authority meetings as 3rd, Tuesday of each month via my web Zoom, April 18th.

2823
03:52:32,580 --> 03:52:39,220
Youth Council of the virus youth committee meeting 6.30pm, 3rd, Tuesday of each month, Levi meeting room, April 18th in City Hall.

2824
03:52:39,640 --> 03:52:45,160
City Council Work Session meeting last Tuesday of each month at 6pm, City Hall Council Chambers, April 25th.

2825
03:52:45,860 --> 03:52:52,160
Planning Commission meeting 6.30pm, City Hall Council Chambers, 4th, Thursday of each month. It's April 27th.

2826
03:52:52,160 --> 03:52:58,950
A couple of things here, cave city events and upcoming events here.

2827
03:52:59,730 --> 03:53:04,230
Council initiative, April 26th, the 6th PM Emerald Madness Conference Center.

2828
03:53:05,230 --> 03:53:09,230
Councilwoman Gann is going to have her district one town hall.

2829
03:53:13,540 --> 03:53:20,980
Also Henry Free Music presents ASEP Violin Classes and Music Program at Cotton Indian Elementary

2830
03:53:20,980 --> 03:53:27,020
School involving Cotton Indian Elementary School, Red Oak Elementary Fairview Elementary

2831
03:53:27,020 --> 03:53:32,980
School and the Youth Orchestra United Joy through music spring concert 2023 on

2832
03:53:32,980 --> 03:53:38,840
Tuesday May 16th at 2023 7 p.m. at Murrow Manors and a Mayor Pro Tem

2833
03:53:38,840 --> 03:53:43,680
Barbara plans to participate and be in I guess she's gonna play a violin I

2834
03:53:43,680 --> 03:53:49,220
suppose I don't know okay there you go all right join Mayor Pro Tem Barbara

2835
03:53:49,220 --> 03:53:54,020
once again a partnership with JJ smiles for the 2023 annual cookout and fun

2836
03:53:54,020 --> 03:53:58,600
raised on April 15th from 2 p.m. to 6 p.m. at Clark Community Park. Community

2837
03:53:58,600 --> 03:54:01,640
members are encouraged to donate backpacks, backpacks and school

2838
03:54:01,640 --> 03:54:06,480
supplies. Monetary donations are welcomed with 100% of the proceeds going

2839
03:54:06,480 --> 03:54:11,000
directly to JJ Smiles Incorporated. This event is free and open to the public.

2840
03:54:11,540 --> 03:54:17,220
You can email Ybarber at cityofstarbridge-ga.gov for more information.

2841
03:54:18,280 --> 03:54:22,300
Join Councilman Blunt on Wednesday, April 19th at Murrow Manus Conference

2842
03:54:22,300 --> 03:54:27,440
Center for Bingo from 10 a.m. to noon. Please contact Ross and Rawls at 6 7

2843
03:54:27,440 --> 03:54:33,400
8 8 3 3 3 4 8 for more information. Join Councilman Blunt once again on

2844
03:54:33,400 --> 03:54:37,800
Thursday April 20th at Winsong Clubhouse for District 3 Town Hall meeting

2845
03:54:37,800 --> 03:54:44,020
7 p.m. and contact once again Ross and Rawls for that information and I got

2846
03:54:44,020 --> 03:54:48,520
him this join Councilman Blunt again on Saturday the 22nd of April at Clark

2847
03:54:48,520 --> 03:54:54,700
Park at 12 p.m. to 3 p.m. for stock bridge motorsports or safety ride once

2848
03:54:54,700 --> 03:55:02,460
again contact Ross and Rawls at 678-833-3348. Join Constable Thomas with

2849
03:55:02,460 --> 03:55:06,140
Don't Trash Stop Bridge centered around education highlighting the causes and

2850
03:55:06,140 --> 03:55:10,360
effects of littering and illegal dumping. Save the date for the

2851
03:55:10,360 --> 03:55:15,320
Carrie Mae Hammerick Day Saturday May 13th. More information of follow, contact

2852
03:55:15,320 --> 03:55:22,080
and Councilman Thomas 404-247-4972, and as always,

2853
03:55:22,180 --> 03:55:23,280
a continuous salute to veterans.

2854
03:55:23,520 --> 03:55:24,700
Please forward pictures of veterans,

2855
03:55:24,880 --> 03:55:28,700
including name, rank, branch, years of service,

2856
03:55:29,340 --> 03:55:30,740
to Mayor Pro Tem Tom, and we'll actually

2857
03:55:30,740 --> 03:55:32,020
say, excuse me, Councilman Thomas.

2858
03:55:33,860 --> 03:55:35,840
Special, as you present, a special tribute

2859
03:55:35,840 --> 03:55:38,040
to our local veterans, pictures should

2860
03:55:38,040 --> 03:55:42,460
be submitted to Rosalind Rawls at rrawls.citystopgrays-ga.gov.

2861
03:55:43,020 --> 03:55:44,880
And, of course, thank you for your service.

2862
03:55:45,380 --> 03:55:51,560
And also, I'm sponsoring a particular event also on May 6 at 2 o'clock with the Fundraising

2863
03:55:51,560 --> 03:55:52,640
Event for Sisters Top.

2864
03:55:53,340 --> 03:55:56,260
It's going to be in Merrill Manors at 2 o'clock, as I mentioned.

2865
03:55:57,000 --> 03:56:03,440
And this is a nonprofit that works with young girls and helps young girls become more

2866
03:56:03,440 --> 03:56:05,480
responsible and mature in this aspect as well.

2867
03:56:05,820 --> 03:56:08,380
So we'll make sure we'll get that information further out as well.

2868
03:56:09,720 --> 03:56:17,240
And my other comments, it is springtime, but COVID-19 is still out and about, so make sure

2869
03:56:17,240 --> 03:56:18,020
you get your boosters.

2870
03:56:18,800 --> 03:56:22,160
I don't think flu season is out, we're out of flu season now, but boosters are still

2871
03:56:22,160 --> 03:56:26,800
needed, so please be safe and be healthy, and happy belated Easter, everybody, and

2872
03:56:26,800 --> 03:56:31,460
happy record, ooh, Resurrection Day, I can't get that out there.

2873
03:56:31,460 --> 03:56:37,860
and hopefully that you got to renew a spirit for life based on what occurred

2874
03:56:37,860 --> 03:56:46,880
a couple thousand years ago with Jesus our Lord. Let's see here for the for

2875
03:56:46,880 --> 03:56:52,460
football fans the draft comes up here here and shortly the next week or so so

2876
03:56:52,460 --> 03:56:56,080
hopefully your favorite team will get their particular players and and wish

2877
03:56:56,080 --> 03:57:03,580
well on the Falcons as they gather some folks for the next season and well wishes to the

2878
03:57:03,580 --> 03:57:09,300
Braves for a great start this season and hopefully will continue to work towards another pinnett.

2879
03:57:10,160 --> 03:57:16,060
And Friday the 14th will be our first concert of our concert season for 2023 with the

2880
03:57:16,060 --> 03:57:23,360
ISE brothers and the group after seven. On that note, Mayor? Yes, sir?

2881
03:57:23,360 --> 03:57:30,260
You know what? There's a there's a distinguished citizen. That's probably gonna be in the top five of the NFL draft

2882
03:57:30,260 --> 03:57:34,880
You're absolutely right. And his name is Will Anderson. I got you and I understand what you mean

2883
03:57:34,880 --> 03:57:37,540
I guess so we got a look got look forward to

2884
03:57:37,540 --> 03:57:41,420
A knowledge that with him after all this guys done to see what else we can do here in the city

2885
03:57:41,420 --> 03:57:44,940
Yes, he might be the first defensive player

2886
03:57:45,480 --> 03:57:50,900
He very much take a look at that don't know where he's gonna go of course, but we'll find out on that note

2887
03:57:50,900 --> 03:57:56,820
But as my understanding, we have an executive session, so I need a motion to go to executive

2888
03:57:56,820 --> 03:57:57,200
session.

2889
03:57:58,040 --> 03:57:58,480
No, we don't.

2890
03:57:58,520 --> 03:57:59,620
We don't have an executive session?

2891
03:58:00,520 --> 03:58:01,120
We do not?

2892
03:58:01,240 --> 03:58:01,540
Okay.

2893
03:58:02,080 --> 03:58:04,500
Well, if that's the case, then I need a motion to end our meeting.

2894
03:58:04,740 --> 03:58:05,440
May it stop moved.

2895
03:58:05,700 --> 03:58:06,420
Okay, there's a second.

2896
03:58:06,900 --> 03:58:07,320
Ms. Barbra, second.

2897
03:58:07,380 --> 03:58:07,680
All in favor?

2898
03:58:07,820 --> 03:58:08,080
Please indicate.

2899
03:58:09,520 --> 03:58:09,840
Okay.

2900
03:58:10,000 --> 03:58:10,340
Thank you.

2901
03:58:10,380 --> 03:58:10,900
God bless y'all.

2902
03:58:11,160 --> 03:58:11,520
Good night.